From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 00:03:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CE09183528; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 00:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5E276243-C357-41C7-99EB-E9BCA58A7F47@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Happy New Year Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:03:27 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 00:03:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a great community that I feel privileged to be a part of. I wish everyone the best in the New Year. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 00:14:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84A24183530; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 00:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1293840887; bh=6Jfg+bxkDXQkv9fN9MNaCNNYQY16CtCA3MRtsH3tb20=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J5Fv1Q/l7XF397XktCDQwLLvHlXdT16MSb0JQK8X3GuQ3NV+fea1kYG32+CofHMLD2TL/SJHsuN2AR3GGIz+P63DzwMp64WjYWMEhfxUgECCbe6j0/+s+zfj0bRjxfw+ZEhG4FOBCEG4ZfOm0k592VC6R3dOIgxZkcbfC1TPTyY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QL7zCDBJOdGCp2AxUrQ1MSNDiKK5X300Lbx1bhiZvN1VBKEZon2M49F1TP144SpmfV1Q2+d6oE7hfucCIxjzscvH0B723KVGGiN9LwrXIPuVGIkNDWlGg4CRgEy9B1qfNkdctxL7gtG6oyUaEMT5y9yvhAJ/cUsxbdydYO+nLz4=; Message-ID: <636450.69740.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9gwx8vgVM1mCJm3DRDA4TKFkBKllxUf_VaaXzY2OxbDgtlS D7yMcmjwlNsdrMbwxkD1uiGm0ffur.z1TgQYtOPpKWpeeHwHFFuj0dAsgoeV jQaMXt8GnFv386S90ITwAFmcYgDER3L.P20R1dvgbGLgQTl5mmxdkjaQQxuH qCTZTcEUQDJkxerggZr5kN0RVijrPQ0h32TgF.idaIrluXFCZvXQcsd.5jo4 kbaB24_HwWiCwd5df_gr9f7.ZZgOzqUVzy1Q7kNZ.QaNTItYnBwS0ghq2Lm3 f2U7ds206_ETsTQvv6jaKckQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <5E276243-C357-41C7-99EB-E9BCA58A7F47@baymoon.com> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:14:47 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Happy New Year To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5E276243-C357-41C7-99EB-E9BCA58A7F47@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2067175455-1293840887=:69740" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 00:14:48 +0000 (UTC) --0-2067175455-1293840887=:69740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii yeah, right on right on! Antony ________________________________ From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 1:03:27 AM Subject: Happy New Year This is a great community that I feel privileged to be a part of. I wish everyone the best in the New Year. Bill --0-2067175455-1293840887=:69740 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
yeah,

right on right on!

Antony

From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 1:03:27 AM
Subject: Happy New Year

This is a great community that I feel privileged to be a part of.
I wish everyone the best in the New Year.
Bill


--0-2067175455-1293840887=:69740-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 00:22:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EED29183530; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 00:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:references:from :content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=lR0UdnvwqejgTcULDQRGeGaEhZ55zTxiNA38r0DD510=; b=PfgX3l5Yd/xowzwWf9StrDtxMN+cMfNKZwtY92F/02T8/nc3S4y0w8AdNpVtDA3Jto Ev8gjFUm8TLjOq+ikCXbU4nrfppPyqamWsdK4cuhuevpFAq7NhYcDaMRkcQq8u6YPHJr m2C8ZW/NGIcW1VTnMc36tAC4knkuqn33JAhO0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=p+zgdRq24ZL1cpxy6DEhA4mFWLlKg+/FVJYK8dq4XyuEF860OMZlWD3bWfoE4bQslv 8Bugst4Li1ff6a4RmAaa82u5o93u4hjnZuFubq6Jr8Y5iBbaRTQ7BH5UDpxB6digF4DI SgzPdt5tEqmqZZrpx5wSfaEEI1q/0QCBSgLoI= Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me References: <4D1E3F6D.3050905@cruzio.com> From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148a) In-Reply-To: <4D1E3F6D.3050905@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <14806E05-BDE0-4C73-9B43-80DBC1FF4398@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:22:26 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 00:22:34 +0000 (UTC) God I love you guys. I benefit SO much from these convos, and I'm an Ableton= guy these days, with heavy EDP experience and just never had the extra cash= for an LP-1.=20 Just lovely constructive banter from great individuals and musicians. Thanks= all, and happy new year! Bests. Todd.=20 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: >> This looks like a strat vs sg debate to me - it's what we call horses fo= r courses over here. Choose your weapon gentlemen and PLAY! >>=20 >>=20 > I beg to differ, with respect, Gareth. >=20 > I truly don't care what looper Mark uses. >=20 > It's NOT a competition or a debate. > It's trying to be accurate in writing about a powerful instrument. >=20 > Looperlative doesn't have the public profile that Gibson had with the EDP o= riginally (though > Gibson horribly let the EDP down imho) so when people research it on the w= eb, they > come upon discussions like the one that Mark initiated. >=20 > I disagreed with his conclusions, so I have only been trying to set the > record straight about what the LP-1 can do....... >=20 > .......not trying to diss the EDP or win some competition. >=20 > Come on, I've hosted hundreds of loopers from all over the world and I, o= f all people, > truly believe that Music is the most important thing.............not your e= quipment. >=20 > The public at large is never going to judge someone's musical output by > whether they use software/hardware, strat/sg (lol, why doesn't Danelectro= make the > cut in that classis debate), edp, looperlative, roland, digitech, boomeran= g, etc., etc. >=20 > rick walker >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 01:45:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5571218352D; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 01:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4AA01B60-E344-47ED-BBE0-C9FB70BA1FB9@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT gear for sale Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:44:59 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <9rexYD.A.XkG.hcoHNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 01:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang I'm facing a slow January and February and have to pay for a new instrument that is being built as well, so I'm parting with a few things. Please contact me Off- list regarding prices, specs etc.. i'll be posting soon on E-bay as well. Rane SM-82 8 stereo channel mixer TC Electronic Fireworx with expansion card, manual and 2 custom made insert cables ART ProMPA two channel rackmount tube preamp, first generation Carl Martin Compressor Lehle D-loop stereo loop selector Roland GR-30 Guitar synthesizer,w/ manual, power supply, gk cable and one gk2a pickup and mounting bracket RMC nylon string multi-saddle roland GK ready pickup system, with break out box and cable Happy New Year Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 11:33:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40076183455; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 11:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+ljwk6jFbBSQT1xGx2DpfvcNBZrzf0iFdF9aIaa4Kl0=; b=RX3rz5zzDRE/+me5SM25fArEOZQuBlSra0tR68OR/lkNZKoYWftAp5PEBNzAj5/dIB 5nk1sLpahWSwGtuVTrrLWugjb6JM64XIvx1MEM/Lo/WZ96tM85ymhqs5JuNiR2Mqck4Q h5jTziQhnn4UoSdZ6+Jg4RcNPPosQAwCUG/u0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=aJxyTlscD7E+Y0vuuZQYBMiCtSp1m/igt24beqr0Tr0Jxe58zzYwEXMLmi+wx/MT1I XN4QdpX7JGLqg1gnkB7tvnV4AAre6pu8xcOncbIBukLYWDg4yGvELEZxfo8i8m6/VChq 3JqHIym4qnvR0n7SiLse6bJP0yIyAPr2NiKjI= References: <4D1A6747.3000706@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 12:33:23 +0100 Message-ID: <8468670971305893398@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e838424078c0498c7481a Resent-Message-ID: <4K5-vD.A.DdB.wDxHNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 11:33:04 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e838424078c0498c7481a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This looks like exactly what I'm after... Can't check it right now, I have a house full for new year.. Thnks for the link James! Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 31 Dec 2010, at 02:40, james fowler wrote: dunno to where this thread has strayed, but here's a cheap little arp program: http://www.pentacom.jp/pentacom/arpg8r/ as a staunch bidule supporter, i'm required to chime in. i think bidule is great. i know that always looking for something new and having to learn a whole new thing kinda sucks and i also agree with just picking something and learning it. bidule is way fun to work with, super-easy or super-complex (depending on how deep you wanna go) and pretty darn cheap. i spent a little time with audiomulch and thought bidule a better environment in which to work. i also hated live and i think that max/msp is absurd. i can work pretty quick in bidule. it's graphical nature greatly appeals to me. customer support is really great, too. - jim --90e6ba6e838424078c0498c7481a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This looks like exactly what I'm a= fter... Can't check it right now, I have a house full for new year.. Th= nks for the link James!

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 31 Dec 2010, at 02:40, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:

dunno to where this thread has strayed, but here&= #39;s a cheap little arp program: http://www.p= entacom.jp/pentacom/arpg8r/

as a staunch bidule supporter, i'm required to chime in.

i think bidule is great.=A0 i know that always looking for something ne= w and having to learn a whole new thing kinda sucks and i also agree with j= ust picking something and learning it.=A0 bidule is way fun to work with, s= uper-easy or super-complex (depending on how deep you wanna go) and pretty = darn cheap.=A0 i spent a little time with audiomulch and thought bidule a b= etter environment in which to work.=A0 i also hated live and i think that m= ax/msp is absurd.=A0 i can work pretty quick in bidule.=A0 it's graphic= al nature greatly appeals to me.=A0 customer support is really great, too.<= br>
- jim=A0


--90e6ba6e838424078c0498c7481a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 12:03:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F22218344B; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 12:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=U7RoH2x2FWZ/oRXclqw66FN51uiYjEb2pYVMo9b/n60=; b=DbygoAt3YwzJGjhof4CKbOgbRc0TtcZT7vdbDsxkVF9M4Nc/Uf+Q0ZmgbarlX0Qb3L M0bWIiZvvvJFnb5Kb569IYDBf934cicl6u9YxSsmhs31+wSGtMBJILvWBGLkSwx18Nhn pcz8kX0BSfcCs4j6azVbI/PMHL88mpgFnekw8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=VR9NB/uSbrtR431n6AL9zHC0Uz4Psh8VLCmoA5raxy4i0ZFVQU1JuPEgWbf3TsNKau 3GuHMXaHoS/usiHYWyGagTdelnYFmErHylXNAbajSdE1ufaTIiC5QdCuaYwWbStwVjZz yMbuYH1IaTq8E+vcmG52Ec8NBkW2osr+ZXfSA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8468670971305893398@unknownmsgid> References: <4D1A6747.3000706@googlemail.com> <8468670971305893398@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 13:02:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e83848bfe360498c7b36f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 12:03:07 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e83848bfe360498c7b36f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OK little report on the ARPG8, after 5 mimutes trying.. its ok, works nicly out of the box, STILL has not hold or latch function, so the arp stops after you remove you hand from the keyboard, which rules it out for me, you can REMOVE notes form the beat, so thats weird functionality, but works for creating less static normal ARPs, has one interesting programmable mode where you can set which note are played.. and Random is one of the options, so you can set up a sequence that goes 1, 2, 4, R, 2, 1.. whcih is fun...! No saving of setting, but your DAW can do this... thats it.. still have to make one I think! Mark On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:33 PM, mark francombe wrote: > This looks like exactly what I'm after... Can't check it right now, I have > a house full for new year.. Thnks for the link James! > > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 31 Dec 2010, at 02:40, james fowler wrote: > > dunno to where this thread has strayed, but here's a cheap little arp > program: > http://www.pentacom.jp/pentacom/arpg8r/ > > as a staunch bidule supporter, i'm required to chime in. > > i think bidule is great. i know that always looking for something new and > having to learn a whole new thing kinda sucks and i also agree with just > picking something and learning it. bidule is way fun to work with, > super-easy or super-complex (depending on how deep you wanna go) and pretty > darn cheap. i spent a little time with audiomulch and thought bidule a > better environment in which to work. i also hated live and i think that > max/msp is absurd. i can work pretty quick in bidule. it's graphical > nature greatly appeals to me. customer support is really great, too. > > - jim > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e83848bfe360498c7b36f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK little report on the ARPG8, after 5 mimutes trying.. its ok, works nicly= out of the box, STILL has not hold or latch function, so the arp stops aft= er you remove you hand from the keyboard, which rules it out for me, you ca= n REMOVE notes form the beat, so thats weird functionality, but works for c= reating less static normal ARPs, has one interesting programmable mode wher= e you can set which note are played.. and Random is one of the options, so = you can set up a sequence that goes 1, 2, 4, R, 2, 1.. whcih is fun...!
No saving of setting, but your DAW can do this...

thats it.. still = have to make one I think!

Mark





On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:33 PM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
This looks like exactly what I'm after... Can't check = it right now, I have a house full for new year.. Thnks for the link James!<= div class=3D"im">

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 31 Dec 2010, at 02:40, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:

dunno to where this thread has = strayed, but here's a cheap little arp program: http://www.pentacom.jp/pentac= om/arpg8r/

as a staunch bidule supporter, i'm required to chime in.

i think bidule is great.=A0 i know that always looking for something ne= w and having to learn a whole new thing kinda sucks and i also agree with j= ust picking something and learning it.=A0 bidule is way fun to work with, s= uper-easy or super-complex (depending on how deep you wanna go) and pretty = darn cheap.=A0 i spent a little time with audiomulch and thought bidule a b= etter environment in which to work.=A0 i also hated live and i think that m= ax/msp is absurd.=A0 i can work pretty quick in bidule.=A0 it's graphic= al nature greatly appeals to me.=A0 customer support is really great, too.<= br>
- jim=A0





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mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
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--90e6ba6e83848bfe360498c7b36f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 12:44:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 053D0183455; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 12:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1B9XW9MFj+DUyhn77HORquuE3juFo1/Bx4EElAMSWJg=; b=VBG+y77u+DcNygJ2xjSj/yqt4YeRZ8Kh4QYtJvW02FpVeaf7v0bRuHL3N3CdnnPFs4 MqUZsz0zBsN1xFRHskTV9BZ9kiS4DcnskYNuHIZsIju+ysBmEgrV/AO2kR5+Mj7zzG7F nbyRHBT640oO1dC6foKl1vwxXxVNhlS7AN2UA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Go7g0OkGGRGBo2HfF3IXhBpc+DClqBil+u84ClfoCf+cN3e3++dAbKb/0SSUNBi734 I5itXjR0DDF4c6gOM/epsirkws/tLg36F4h4jjKinf8ziZNDJ0pcOlSJDqCNSfUZzBok TXGrMwyOHCRL1JCc1a1giXD5tFL5+eAGYknqg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D1A6747.3000706@googlemail.com> <8468670971305893398@unknownmsgid> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 13:20:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 12:44:24 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:02 PM, mark francombe wrote: > STILL has not hold or latch function, so the arp stops after you remove you > hand from the keyboard, which rules it out for me, How about setting up a filter that strips off the Note Off events? Bidule has a good MIDI filter module for that. If using another host than Bidule it would be required to throw in a Bidule AU plugin (with that MIDI filtering) somewhere in the MIDI signal path pre virtual instrument. OR... You could open a Bidule AU anywhere (not necessarily on the MIDI track of your sounding virtual instrument). INside that Bidule you (1) open a "MIDI Input Device" and cable it through the MIDI Filter (stripping off Note Offs) and then you finally create and cable to a "MIDI Output Device" (or whatever it's called...). Make sure to create a "virtual MIDI cable" either on the Mac system (IAC Bus channel) or as a format of your DAW/host. Then set this (now MIDI Off stripped) internal MIDI pipe as the MIDI Input for your sounding virtual instrument. This would work as a "infinite hold", so you need to set up a "Send MIDI Note Off" pedal/button to silence the bitch. Bidule would be fine for that, but simply doing a temporary ByPass off the MIDI filtering Bidule AU plugin and playing any note (that will then also send a Note Off as you release the key) will work as your bitch smacker. Just some loose ideas that may keep you from making music for another couple of days... ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 13:52:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A2DB183457; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 13:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5e6710d5-39aa-4450-a9c3-c85e475137d4_" X-Originating-IP: [217.44.236.110] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 13:52:11 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D1E3F6D.3050905@cruzio.com> References: ,<4D1E3F6D.3050905@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2011 13:52:11.0878 (UTC) FILETIME=[16ECB060:01CBA9BB] Resent-Message-ID: <7Ptpd.A.iME.NGzHNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 13:52:13 +0000 (UTC) --_5e6710d5-39aa-4450-a9c3-c85e475137d4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick=2C Mark is simply stating that he likes the EDP. He gives his reasons a= nd I for one can understand them. He is aware of the looperlative but isn't= interested in spending a lot of time programming it and a midi pedal to us= e it. That seems straighforward. He prefers the EDP=2C you prefer Looperlat= ive - like I said horses for courses. =20 Peace =20 Gareth=20 =20 =20 > Date: Fri=2C 31 Dec 2010 12:39:09 -0800 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: buddhamachine@live.co.uk > CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: RE: The EDP and the Looperlative and me >=20 > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: > > This looks like a strat vs sg debate to me - it's what we call horses=20 > > for courses over here. Choose your weapon gentlemen and PLAY! > > > > > I beg to differ=2C with respect=2C Gareth. >=20 > I truly don't care what looper Mark uses. >=20 > It's NOT a competition or a debate. > It's trying to be accurate in writing about a powerful instrument. >=20 > Looperlative doesn't have the public profile that Gibson had with the=20 > EDP originally (though > Gibson horribly let the EDP down imho) so when people research it on=20 > the web=2C they > come upon discussions like the one that Mark initiated. >=20 > I disagreed with his conclusions=2C so I have only been trying to set the > record straight about what the LP-1 can do....... >=20 > .......not trying to diss the EDP or win some competition. >=20 > Come on=2C I've hosted hundreds of loopers from all over the world and I= =2C=20 > of all people=2C > truly believe that Music is the most important thing.............not=20 > your equipment. >=20 > The public at large is never going to judge someone's musical output by > whether they use software/hardware=2C strat/sg (lol=2C why doesn't=20 > Danelectro make the > cut in that classis debate)=2C edp=2C looperlative=2C roland=2C digitech= =2C=20 > boomerang=2C etc.=2C etc. >=20 > rick walker >=20 = --_5e6710d5-39aa-4450-a9c3-c85e475137d4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick=2C
 =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B Mark is simply stating tha= t he =3Blikes the EDP. He gives his reasons and I for one can understan= d them. He is aware of the looperlative but isn't interested in spending a = lot of time programming it and a midi pedal to use it. That seems straighfo= rward. He =3Bprefers the EDP=2C you prefer Looperlative - like I said h= orses for courses.
 =3B
Peace
 =3B
Gareth

 =3B
 =3B
>=3B Date: Fri=2C 31 Dec 2010 12:39:09 -0800
>=3B From: looppool@cru= zio.com
>=3B To: buddhamachine@live.co.uk
>=3B CC: loopers-deligh= t@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: RE: The EDP and the Looperlati= ve and me
>=3B
>=3B On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote= :
>=3B >=3B This looks like a strat vs sg debate to me - it's what w= e call horses
>=3B >=3B for courses over here. Choose your weapon g= entlemen and PLAY!
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B I beg to dif= fer=2C with respect=2C Gareth.
>=3B
>=3B I truly don't care what= looper Mark uses.
>=3B
>=3B It's NOT a competition or a debate.=
>=3B It's trying to be accurate in writing about a powerful instrumen= t.
>=3B
>=3B Looperlative doesn't have the public profile that G= ibson had with the
>=3B EDP originally (though
>=3B Gibson horri= bly let the EDP down imho) so when people research it on
>=3B the web= =2C they
>=3B come upon discussions like the one that Mark initiated.<= BR>>=3B
>=3B I disagreed with his conclusions=2C so I have only bee= n trying to set the
>=3B record straight about what the LP-1 can do...= ....
>=3B
>=3B .......not trying to diss the EDP or win some com= petition.
>=3B
>=3B Come on=2C I've hosted hundreds of loopers f= rom all over the world and I=2C
>=3B of all people=2C
>=3B truly= believe that Music is the most important thing.............not
>=3B = your equipment.
>=3B
>=3B The public at large is never going to = judge someone's musical output by
>=3B whether they use software/hardw= are=2C strat/sg (lol=2C why doesn't
>=3B Danelectro make the
>= =3B cut in that classis debate)=2C edp=2C looperlative=2C roland=2C digitec= h=2C
>=3B boomerang=2C etc.=2C etc.
>=3B
>=3B rick walker<= BR>>=3B
= --_5e6710d5-39aa-4450-a9c3-c85e475137d4_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 15:12:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4887183459; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 15:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LUH1RSqwbovGYxCekCpUJhmBl4HS9kK/AgY1xkuGy/c=; b=cpyDrknRZNECOioizylHlUhuLGZq2skvvj12HT4zJm9lm65Jtw30WZ4iI0Ov1KvTLI nY7kGDxEeS3dEufoAZfHOiGAIL0ckXxJ+mwr29qrlyC2HbgblgX84T9VJzVraarnUFHP HCauPsLHJ8wYC6LMGD9GXgYbJpwMVNMYqA8c0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hHAmeaNSJM261zQsu47HukSxe2p0CJi55Zz9NS8YMoX3T6RpAW7rXbUmKEg0hvE+4+ ejl+S6Y87e6jhzsTMs/eIU2GrSEFWUOuqqVSctqE/4gPpSvEyNekgtn78jTbTL+ckn7T 5GFWpa+NGsSN8B6/Shb2D+VFqvfnzfJvdoXHY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D1E3F6D.3050905@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 10:12:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a71910da390498ca5a9f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 15:12:50 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a71910da390498ca5a9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is sincere and beautiful in the reality of what this community is abou= t and with me being naive to particularly the EDP, the discussion is like a study with Mr Wizzard that I can wide-eyed benefit from but as I was readin= g through Mark's opening and Rick and Bill back/forth I just started laughing thinking of the early Jane Curtain / Bill Murray news spoofs on SNL, the 'Jane you ignorant slut!' routine that this innocently reminded me. Beautiful guys. Wishing everyone a wonderful and creatively Happy New Year= . Jim On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Gareth Whittock w= rote: > Rick, > Mark is simply stating that he likes the EDP. He gives his reasons > and I for one can understand them. He is aware of the looperlative but is= n't > interested in spending a lot of time programming it and a midi pedal to u= se > it. That seems straighforward. He prefers the EDP, you prefer Looperlativ= e - > like I said horses for courses. > > Peace > > Gareth > > > > > Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:39:09 -0800 > > From: looppool@cruzio.com > > To: buddhamachine@live.co.uk > > CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: RE: The EDP and the Looperlative and me > > > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > > > This looks like a strat vs sg debate to me - it's what we call horses > > > for courses over here. Choose your weapon gentlemen and PLAY! > > > > > > > > I beg to differ, with respect, Gareth. > > > > I truly don't care what looper Mark uses. > > > > It's NOT a competition or a debate. > > It's trying to be accurate in writing about a powerful instrument. > > > > Looperlative doesn't have the public profile that Gibson had with the > > EDP originally (though > > Gibson horribly let the EDP down imho) so when people research it on > > the web, they > > come upon discussions like the one that Mark initiated. > > > > I disagreed with his conclusions, so I have only been trying to set the > > record straight about what the LP-1 can do....... > > > > .......not trying to diss the EDP or win some competition. > > > > Come on, I've hosted hundreds of loopers from all over the world and I, > > of all people, > > truly believe that Music is the most important thing.............not > > your equipment. > > > > The public at large is never going to judge someone's musical output by > > whether they use software/hardware, strat/sg (lol, why doesn't > > Danelectro make the > > cut in that classis debate), edp, looperlative, roland, digitech, > > boomerang, etc., etc. > > > > rick walker > > > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a71910da390498ca5a9f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is sincere and beautiful in the reality of what this community is abou= t and with me being naive to particularly the EDP, the discussion is like a= study with Mr Wizzard that I can wide-eyed benefit from but as I was readi= ng through Mark's opening and Rick and Bill back/forth I just started l= aughing thinking of the early Jane Curtain / Bill Murray news spoofs on SNL= , the 'Jane you ignorant slut!' routine that this innocently remind= ed me.

Beautiful guys. =A0Wishing everyone a wonderful and creative= ly Happy New Year.

Jim

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Gareth Whittock &l= t;buddhamachine@live.co.uk&= gt; wrote:
Rick,
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Mark is simply stating that he=A0likes the EDP. He gives= his reasons and I for one can understand them. He is aware of the looperla= tive but isn't interested in spending a lot of time programming it and = a midi pedal to use it. That seems straighforward. He=A0prefers the EDP, yo= u prefer Looperlative - like I said horses for courses.
=A0
Peace
=A0
Gareth

=A0
=A0
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:39:09 -0800
> From: looppool@cruzio.com
> To: = buddhamachine= @live.co.uk
> CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: RE: The= EDP and the Looperlative and me

> =
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:
> > This looks li= ke a strat vs sg debate to me - it's what we call horses
> > = for courses over here. Choose your weapon gentlemen and PLAY!
> ><= br> > >
> I beg to differ, with respect, Gareth.
>
> I= truly don't care what looper Mark uses.
>
> It's NOT = a competition or a debate.
> It's trying to be accurate in writin= g about a powerful instrument.
>
> Looperlative doesn't have the public profile that Gibson = had with the
> EDP originally (though
> Gibson horribly let th= e EDP down imho) so when people research it on
> the web, they
> come upon discussions like the one that Mark initiated.
>
&g= t; I disagreed with his conclusions, so I have only been trying to set the<= br>> record straight about what the LP-1 can do.......
>
> = .......not trying to diss the EDP or win some competition.
>
> Come on, I've hosted hundreds of loopers from all over th= e world and I,
> of all people,
> truly believe that Music is = the most important thing.............not
> your equipment.
> <= br> > The public at large is never going to judge someone's musical outp= ut by
> whether they use software/hardware, strat/sg (lol, why doesn&= #39;t
> Danelectro make the
> cut in that classis debate), edp= , looperlative, roland, digitech,
> boomerang, etc., etc.
>
> rick walker
>
=



--
From Brooklyn To Glindr= an, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 P= roceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandca= mp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wo= rdpress.com
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boundary="Apple-Mail-4--90319143"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <14806E05-BDE0-4C73-9B43-80DBC1FF4398@gmail.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 10:49:36 -0500 To: Thread-Topic: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thread-Index: Acupy6acbCzFzydvRb6Rwem6f09zJA== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2011 15:50:44.0923 (UTC) FILETIME=[A6A138B0:01CBA9CB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 15:50:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--90319143 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Heck yes, what can we get them off on next???? Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Dec 31, 2010, at 7:22 PM, "Todd Reynolds" wrote: > God I love you guys. I benefit SO much from these convos, and I'm an Ablet= on guy these days, with heavy EDP experience and just never had the extra ca= sh for an LP-1. >=20 > Just lovely constructive banter from great individuals and musicians. Than= ks all, and happy new year! >=20 > Bests. Todd. >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Dec 31, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >=20 > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > >> This looks like a strat vs sg debate to me - it's what we call horses f= or courses over here. Choose your weapon gentlemen and PLAY! > >> > >> > > I beg to differ, with respect, Gareth. > > > > I truly don't care what looper Mark uses. > > > > It's NOT a competition or a debate. > > It's trying to be accurate in writing about a powerful instrument. > > > > Looperlative doesn't have the public profile that Gibson had with the ED= P originally (though > > Gibson horribly let the EDP down imho) so when people research it on th= e web, they > > come upon discussions like the one that Mark initiated. > > > > I disagreed with his conclusions, so I have only been trying to set the > > record straight about what the LP-1 can do....... > > > > .......not trying to diss the EDP or win some competition. > > > > Come on, I've hosted hundreds of loopers from all over the world and I,= of all people, > > truly believe that Music is the most important thing.............not you= r equipment. > > > > The public at large is never going to judge someone's musical output by > > whether they use software/hardware, strat/sg (lol, why doesn't Danelect= ro make the > > cut in that classis debate), edp, looperlative, roland, digitech, boomer= ang, etc., etc. > > > > rick walker > > >=20 --Apple-Mail-4--90319143 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Heck yes, what can we get them off on next????

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Dec 31, 2010, at 7:22 PM, "Todd Reynolds" <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:

God I love you guys. I benefit SO much from these convos, and I'm an Ableton guy these days, with heavy EDP experience and just never had the extra cash for an LP-1.

Just lovely constructive banter from great individuals and musicians. Thanks all, and happy new year!

Bests. Todd.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:
>> This looks like a strat vs sg debate to me  - it's what we call horses for courses over here. Choose your weapon gentlemen and PLAY!
>>
>>
> I beg to differ, with respect, Gareth.
>
> I truly don't care what looper Mark uses.
>
> It's NOT a competition or a debate.
> It's trying to be accurate in writing about a powerful instrument.
>
> Looperlative doesn't have the public profile that Gibson had with the EDP originally (though
> Gibson horribly let the EDP down imho)  so when people research it on the web, they
> come upon discussions like the one that Mark initiated.
>
> I disagreed with his conclusions, so I have only been trying to set the
> record straight about what the LP-1 can do.......
>
> .......not trying to diss the EDP or win some competition.
>
> Come on,  I've hosted hundreds of loopers from all over the world and I, of all people,
> truly believe that Music is the most important thing.............not your equipment.
>
> The public at large is never going to judge someone's musical output by
> whether they use software/hardware,  strat/sg (lol, why doesn't Danelectro make the
> cut in that classis debate), edp, looperlative, roland, digitech, boomerang, etc., etc.
>
> rick walker
>

--Apple-Mail-4--90319143-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 16:03:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9046B183474; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VK377SXHkezQdeq6qhGmUA2dn8Tl0uy6BbHjzPpT1Vs=; b=ffAHdvSbx1m+7b88owo7osMrrfgtCx7STMQecrYiOBL6rrlYJlgd8hZBb8fQ1H72XI RH3WgtWKwDzdO+vNWXtyb0itXeb1zJj/2PtITyVxLX81SXQ3pyi6fC9ZUYpKDVvmpd/t OE63f6THk1IJG0PJ4U+5TuM99v3ATi9wmZUdY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qMTlRJ92fHseg+osiMlf2tYH9Qn89AkmMtznuYSrCmEmeFlcA2IQAupQ9Ns7TT5pkp m8rIRh5Sv5a/UnMUDnGpQbnNa2mJCMO1znzY7tOm0kHC5GbK49u6nbTDxK4g1QUOXY9E Dr/8rNg4WKm+MgFzAFrWkZrs9OOo8vwmeklLk= Message-ID: <4D1F506D.1080702@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:03:57 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Re: Happy New Year to Come! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Stephen! That beautiful ingle/mellotron mood is a great way to start the new year. And a happy one to you, too (and everyone else...) Rainer Stephen Goodman schrieb: > While I suspect tonight’s Audio Tarot show is pre-empted by some mode > of merriment – We’re going down to the old 14th Century church near > midnight – I just finished the Seventh Day of Christmas show on > ustream.tv. > > The happiest to all in the meantime! > > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11743955 > -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 16:30:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03D1B18345A; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=wVVnK6n/7Q7i/vav53aKChOk7xvzO946IaThUYTlFwU=; b=jInAegsKssTmz1em6X5JFrPl4DdWZERJiR7UaPt/KKmYYAsfFqOcQAVaxdLLj9aW0S rTINFwcM9uSYdeHM0kIyA0rah9uWYxvVr/fG7TNA5YTsrfOQcgMxtEL6UzBavKEpsC53 1gNwV335xqMs3OaN2NwSgv9zZOZUSen4mAV7o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=HgsYF4pQy8PaOGD+a7DUPet2sR5njYCskbsyoAlxwpnBxEMMutqLhROQYT5E1f3i+r r1XGHEAAzSYmbjguq6aZvKvTbaoQc0foDUN1pPp/E9g9bnBL3vIk2VP7O3SpTMBboaDp 2dqhb1rsBvSjvn/m7bjLlM098UoKPDgo87A34= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D1A6747.3000706@googlemail.com> <8468670971305893398@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:30:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fAVYo6Kx7Z0dzrEnPUqD7U7MOXs Message-ID: Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a07363131d0498cb6f6b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:30:22 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a07363131d0498cb6f6b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well that approach is exactly what i was going to attempt within Bidule, but using one of the built in arps, but somehow cancelling the note off filter with a note on... dunno, its difficult to know how to do it in bidule without learning the whole program... Like.. (@bidule users.. ) how do you er.. "expose" to the front panel, only the controls you need to show on the outside of the group? The control side of Bidule is the side I really don't like, the programming style using modules, is the same in mulch Synthedit, and Bidule. No problem there (just have to experiment and read up on the functionality) Only in Bidule does there NOT seem to be any elegant way of hiding the mess of wires and showing just the controls you needs as marked knobs, sliders and readouts. In Mulch there are very nice looking but generic controls, and in SynthEdit you can use the default, imports new, or completely design your own controls. . Mark On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:02 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > STILL has not hold or latch function, so the arp stops after you remove > you > > hand from the keyboard, which rules it out for me, > > How about setting up a filter that strips off the Note Off events? > Bidule has a good MIDI filter module for that. If using another host > than Bidule it would be required to throw in a Bidule AU plugin (with > that MIDI filtering) somewhere in the MIDI signal path pre virtual > instrument. > > OR... > You could open a Bidule AU anywhere (not necessarily on the MIDI track > of your sounding virtual instrument). INside that Bidule you (1) open > a "MIDI Input Device" and cable it through the MIDI Filter (stripping > off Note Offs) and then you finally create and cable to a "MIDI Output > Device" (or whatever it's called...). Make sure to create a "virtual > MIDI cable" either on the Mac system (IAC Bus channel) or as a format > of your DAW/host. Then set this (now MIDI Off stripped) internal MIDI > pipe as the MIDI Input for your sounding virtual instrument. > > This would work as a "infinite hold", so you need to set up a "Send > MIDI Note Off" pedal/button to silence the bitch. Bidule would be fine > for that, but simply doing a temporary ByPass off the MIDI filtering > Bidule AU plugin and playing any note (that will then also send a Note > Off as you release the key) will work as your bitch smacker. > > Just some loose ideas that may keep you from making music for another > couple of days... ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054a07363131d0498cb6f6b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well that approach is exactly what i was going to attempt within Bidule, bu= t using one of the built in arps, but somehow cancelling the note off filte= r with a note on... dunno, its difficult to know how to do it in bidule wit= hout learning the whole program...

Like.. (@bidule users.. ) how do you er.. "expose" to the fro= nt panel, only the controls you need to show on the outside of the group?The control side of Bidule is the side I really don't like, the progr= amming style using modules, is the same in mulch Synthedit, and Bidule. No = problem there (just have to experiment and read up on the functionality)
Only in Bidule does there NOT seem to be any elegant way of hiding the = mess of wires and showing just the controls you needs as marked knobs, slid= ers and readouts. In Mulch there are very nice looking but generic controls= , and in SynthEdit you can use the default, imports new, or completely desi= gn your own controls.
.
Mark








On = Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:02 PM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com> wrote:=
> STILL has not hold or latch function, so the arp stops after you remov= e you
> hand from the keyboard, which rules it out for me,

How about setting up a filter that strips off the Note Off events? Bidule has a good MIDI filter module for that. If using another host
than Bidule it would be required to throw in a Bidule AU plugin (with
that MIDI filtering) somewhere in the MIDI signal path pre virtual
instrument.

OR...
You could open a Bidule AU anywhere (not necessarily on the MIDI track
of your sounding virtual instrument). INside that Bidule you (1) open
a "MIDI Input Device" and cable it through the MIDI Filter (strip= ping
off Note Offs) and then you finally create and cable to a "MIDI Output=
Device" (or whatever it's called...). Make sure to create a "= virtual
MIDI cable" either on the Mac system (IAC Bus channel) or as a format<= br> of your DAW/host. Then set this (now MIDI Off stripped) internal MIDI
pipe as the MIDI Input for your sounding virtual instrument.

This would work as a "infinite hold", so you need to set up a &qu= ot;Send
MIDI Note Off" pedal/button to silence the bitch. Bidule would be fine=
for that, but simply doing a temporary ByPass off the MIDI filtering
Bidule AU plugin and playing any note (that will then also send a Note
Off as you release the key) will work as your bitch smacker.

Just some loose ideas that may keep you from making music for another
couple of days... ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf3054a07363131d0498cb6f6b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 16:38:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA3AA183478; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/Ll0EvmqJ1ns9LBRWhjWEBLrrlc7MSeLUQWo9K30Sos=; b=PMAjDaE7bP5vmXck4PoMFmkuqh5FXhIfZAV/H9NiUrEvwmnFy8uBWYTfO593Okdq6h NEDhW66x0SyGZLNPiNJTQphcqiTNEon/KAKy6/t+9D4GLFCEyNA14ZBnotSvZcHSS2dr 8MRJ7NztPX2t15Fp+SQzRVCHTks9PL9unKSUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SojIIczoXOi90Ke6jnjtSTVEGUuws0tbuQG/UPQnXfvpLYFFsl099eyk2falfu8YsN Yhu4o0tHvi4A3XHxBFFEg2huwZRiQv4SHQciaIoIGaL6xfgDdiYZewqhHo69XzekSpaf T0DBm6joMsHFCJBpT8EyZ25pkK4x07DTECnP4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D1E3F6D.3050905@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:38:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Happy New Year to everyone! I think it can be a bit confusing to just talk only about "which looper" you like to use. Better then to start out speaking about what you want to do with looping in your music. So here's what I want to do: - I want to just start playing music and record a loop whenever I feel for it. My looper should then provide a tempo sync signal for other gear to follow. - My looper should allow me to start with any length for my first loop. Whatever musical part I start playing, and loop, the looper should calculate a corresponding global tempo within a musically comfortable tempo range. If I should start my concert with a 763 millisecond micro loop my looper should multiply the tempo base until reaching a reference cycle corresponding to a tempo within my preferred tempo range. If I should start my concert with a four minute long loop my looper should divide my loop until reaching a reference cycle corresponding to a comfy tempo. - My looper should record stereo loops from any audio input I assign to it, even mono inputs. - Loop length can be changed either instantly by multiplying or dividing - with any number (even 3, 5, 7, 9 etc) - or in real-time while on-the-fly overdubbing a longer layer over a bunch of copies of my first loop, for as long as I go (traditional "EDP Multiply") - My looper should allow me to stack many alternative loops, in a linear way, and instantly decide which one of them should play back, switching playback loop according to my preferred quantize qrid (or un-quantized, if I happen to be in that mode...) - My looper has to allow several parallel playback channels, as above, so I can run multiple loops simultaneously and have fun with different loop lengths, parallel loops inter locking in a synced way or "free-wheeling". - My looper has to be able to change playback speed (good old "vari-speed" effect) both tonally quantized to semi tone steps and continuously (seamless pitch/speed shifting). - For all functionality I prefer a modular approach, so I can set up a bunch of actions to be triggered at once, or in sequence. - When working with several parallel loops I want to instantly decide which ones of the loops that will be targeted for the command I give; not being limited to manipulate only one loop at a time. Summing up these wishes there is a bit of the EDP and a bit of the LP-1 functionality. But the closest solution for me is to run Mobius on a laptop. That gives me everything except for one wish: continuous seamless pitch/speed shifting. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 16:46:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B7D318347E; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=isve2bZjFYlbYxIgeDK2IDevhYJ6E7z7E7tLwtKQWHI=; b=OT5oGElwbSC5oZuZPJyuJkdOleCuDi3ekknTwfBWqNtfzX5lBFHYm9ffsl1NVWdQ5P +Ye+COBYvwT/LI0Jt7/1D5N1092zW7lMk/MES6p6F7JB6Y5X3xnwA6CDUoKCzFPy8CsP jWZcDTEXfN2VHHGqWXmSWeTdrNZBT1AgJV5xw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=FQjFuCabrEM7fY9p/5CZCeC6ROMZlh8fPHp3R2c16VbHO1/k6x5IwKFdHwMTuhuiVU OdGPmFTmtS46OqZfIv53MgdN/dUq0fCtj7EX+A7Oliu1Sv0CkTs0IPZoaD9JejhN/cw3 J2SKimDwQlhU7Pab4sVTP6SYOvlDLCoSDtRMk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D1E3F6D.3050905@cruzio.com> <14806E05-BDE0-4C73-9B43-80DBC1FF4398@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:45:53 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EK0rv4tB2JBSYj6E_yO3DRf9yyM Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a6734a72f0498cba8f7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:46:15 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a6734a72f0498cba8f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ive only tried the Looperlative once, and I must say in terms of "what it could do" I couldnt get the owner to explain me anything that really seems crazily impossibly different and new than the EDP. Excepting of course the obvious 3 main differences. mono verses stereo, multiple tracks and audio quality... The learning curve with EDP, is a good thing, the way it introduces new functions to you as you grow with it, and deciding after a while to try a more esoteric mode, thats just great! I do think, that Rick hit the nail on the head regarding linear or multi track looping (one cant really call multi track looping Non-linear Im afraid). The first thing I did when I swung over to Mobius was to remove at least half the tracks... I like to morph my compositions from one place to the next with no chance of about turns and repeats. Building up on different tracks has usually resulted in an unholy mess of "where did I put THAT..?" Loop Windowing... I'm not sure if you can do that on Looperlative, and is the biggest bummer for me how undo works on Mobius. When I get round to it, Im gonna script myself that bugger, if possible... think so..I have a cunning plan... --20cf30549a6734a72f0498cba8f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive only tried the Looperlative once, and I must say in terms of "what= it could do" I couldnt get the owner to explain me anything that real= ly seems crazily impossibly different and new than the EDP. Excepting of co= urse the obvious 3 main differences. mono verses stereo, multiple tracks an= d audio quality...

The learning curve with EDP, is a good thing, the way it introduces new= functions to you as you grow with it, and deciding after a while to try a = more esoteric mode, thats just great!

I do think, that Rick hit the = nail on the head regarding linear or multi track looping (one cant really c= all multi track looping Non-linear Im afraid). The first thing I did when I= swung over to Mobius was to remove at least half the tracks... I like to m= orph my compositions from one place to the next with no chance of about tur= ns and repeats. Building up on different tracks has usually resulted in an = unholy mess of "where did I put THAT..?"

Loop Windowing... I'm not sure if you can do that on Looperlative, = and is the biggest bummer for me how undo works on Mobius. When I get round= to it, Im gonna script myself that bugger, if possible... think so..I have= a cunning plan...
--20cf30549a6734a72f0498cba8f7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 16:50:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98155183482; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MouJYiHqOEdBriLwvVLLXrQVuLUe0PIl706mmaPkZko=; b=NjHWIOhxT2EqMnfnfwDe++MIzb3Y4cfTR5+2GNC4v7ACAePq6w6TWa+IdoQ1xYhn3U 3kxbQjPwiACiN//8co8CkPh1U2A35NhxS7RpjznoWoVwb4ZmXk1gNNNw5yQ3lqVkbVkI f7vc94Phit3QXtrPX1NoMV1y2p47Z4EHOWRCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HpC8rknnMQ8/nd4NkhH1hM/3NCtCwA0JQ0hup+hx8gbrtKugOfOMJEyO/gjBAgdn7G BrAH3f54t/FeJsIejYq4BjASQE26O0SjUfEvBFe1ZQz0gxAAC3Z1WxCozDMpKD+Hg+xh HHiWWBjHCYROt9WQyRLuBSDQ1C0h4Nb0eTwsI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D1A6747.3000706@googlemail.com> <8468670971305893398@unknownmsgid> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:50:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:50:04 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5:30 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Like.. (@bidule users.. ) how do you er.. "expose" to the front panel, only > the controls you need to show on the outside of the group? > The control side of Bidule is the side I really don't like, the programming > style using modules, is the same in mulch Synthedit, and Bidule. No problem > there (just have to experiment and read up on the functionality) > > Only in Bidule does there NOT seem to be any elegant way of hiding the mess > of wires and showing just the controls you needs as marked knobs, sliders > and readouts. That's true. I found out about that too and my "workaround" (when I used Bidule, "pre Mainstage" era) was to not depend on visual screen feedback. Doing so was possible by limiting my processing options and using nifty physical MIDI control gear (FCB, Firefox hand button pads/mixer). Memorizing the full control setup is crucial. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 17:26:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 787A1183482; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 558267038/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.122.192/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.122.192 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqYBAHfyHk1PRnrA/2dsb2JhbAAMlhzLEoVKBI4V X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,260,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="558267038" Message-ID: <4D1F63CD.1030602@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:26:37 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator References: <240EA823-F746-4BDA-9102-821765B79CBC@googlemail.com> <-6764800028453888708@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6SpLqB.A.tQB.AP2HNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:26:25 +0000 (UTC) you can always download the demo again, I did that for several months 'till one time they hadn't put the latest up quick enough. andy mark francombe wrote: > that all swings it really dont it... have to dive into Bidule again.. > wheres the hot visa card..? > > M From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 17:32:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DD01183488; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=jSPu5E/nQuXSy73UBsdKLPK0utC2OxlK8E1un4deE58=; b=TGhqeURfu5FjvwDuQmepHL8XHAP/SNrQJhLfRK5Jx4ic+Ecg5miS4I/DG1EOq85r3z 7LZn2fEcnSAwClRdHIVNsAyBejqdmCAhnaK+ybB9hIR4WGyocpMM/KFuXwaZ5BOvoX2S DHEtn4XkCO8UDLYvWNE/fN2VRcM3VxP3KV0F0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=n/ERtBev2HEwXg+0vBdgGeK8dYoPig4cfq0uh1xx5zROT+C1jsNtKt3+r3ZnFY9fCI 18HPiqI60IbyNxxoLXF279wSQXrd+YPGV8RUlgo/Euxod8xGmwovq5+35BCgwFCggrHi hj0qCq8Qgf3njrkt61ItLqmmDiyu+iyzMO9Lo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D1F63CD.1030602@tiscali.co.uk> References: <240EA823-F746-4BDA-9102-821765B79CBC@googlemail.com> <-6764800028453888708@unknownmsgid> <4D1F63CD.1030602@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:31:56 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: r1VIWD8e7LFXa2JbJMqPbmKCga8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e83e6d0c0f20498cc4c2b Resent-Message-ID: <2Cb5YD.A.QlB.iU2HNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:32:18 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e83e6d0c0f20498cc4c2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 no need Andy.. I bought it... this is as a result of playing for a bit... On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:26 PM, andy butler wrote: > you can always download the demo again, > I did that for several months 'till > one time they hadn't put the latest up quick enough. > > andy > > > mark francombe wrote: > >> that all swings it really dont it... have to dive into Bidule again.. >> wheres the hot visa card..? >> >> M >> > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e83e6d0c0f20498cc4c2b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no need Andy.. I bought it... this is as a result of playing for a bit...
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:26 PM, andy butle= r <akbutler@= tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
you can always do= wnload the demo again,
I did that for several months 'till
one time they hadn't put the latest up quick enough.

andy


mark francombe wrote:
that all swings it really dont it... have to dive into Bidule again.. where= s the hot visa card..?

M




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mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e83e6d0c0f20498cc4c2b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 17:42:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C14318348B; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 558357373/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.122.192/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.122.192 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqYBAHX2Hk1PRnrA/2dsb2JhbAAMlhzLEIVKBI4V X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,260,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="558357373" Message-ID: <4D1F6797.7060402@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:42:47 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LD Archives not working Re: WAY OLD post from OCT: References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Scott Hansen wrote: > hi-does anyone know if the LD archive search function is working? they're not, the archives are still there tho' use Google Advanced Search , and restrict search to www.loopersdelight.com andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 17:51:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BAB3183482; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:51:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GcFm3PexEIIA:10 a=CU2rd8LwVfUA:10 a=E2t-IAXL2VnayEJd-V8A:9 a=3awHj55asSwQpJMibr0A:7 a=6B0a5baun7_rAt6BcKluZpTdtg0A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=tf6T6V1eq05b5Fa7:21 a=FwIWTjYZhnZ8-dLx:21 a=VARk71WQciwk1EzU4vkA:9 a=x73aHvqiNArKpHc4FucA:7 a=YbZIcKPiHugInCqtYe91PR_tTPsA:4 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 12:51:14 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <978918733.2468104.1293904276520.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2468096_1571305617.1293904274859" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 44 X-Originating-IP: [76.227.226.195] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:51:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2468096_1571305617.1293904274859 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey there Mark, It's totally okay if you like the EDP. A carpenter will like one hammer over another for some obscure, essoteric, personal reason (often very far outside the knowledge of other users) or for reasons that it simpley works, lasts a long time, is cheap, or is the kind they've always used (and why mess with a good thing); or again, simply because their father used one just like it . . . or even more weirdly, it may not even work as well but they are "in love" with the way it looks (bigger, chrome-plated, more "manly," etc., LOL). I have seen people get in fist fights over such silly, silly, silly choices - one party simply cannot accept that the other party has chozen differently, perhaps saying to themselves (or their other colleagues when the other party is not around): "If only they would spend time getting to know the one **I AM USING** they couldn't help but see what a dimwit they're being and that **I AM RIGHT** and their full of crap - they should kiss my feet for being given the benefit of my vast expetise." These sorts of conflicts happen in every walk of life and over every sort of possible subject matter - whenever a personal human choice and opinion are involved there will be conflict . . . because we are all different. It's the main reason that we will never acheive the sort of "utopia" we all secretly (or otherwise) long for - every man, woman, child and dog of us can sometimes be d**kheads about our opinions. It's the main reason lots of us don't "get along" with oneanother. I am not saying that anyone in this present discussion has shown any "d**kheadedness" really (so far). But I sort of understand the unspoken underlying message of your original post - that you have, at some point, experienced that d**kheadedness somewhere along the way concerning your choice of the EDP - and are asking why? Here's my answer: Human nature. Here's hoping you and yours have a happy 2011. 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Hey there Mark,

<= /FONT>
It's totally okay if you like the EDP.=

A carpent= er will like one hammer over another for some obscure, essoteric, personal = reason (often very far outside the knowledge of other users) or for reasons= that it simpley works, lasts a long time, is cheap, or is the kind they've= always used (and why mess with a good thing); or again, simply because the= ir father used one just like it . . . or even more weirdly, it may not even= work as well but they are "in love" with the way it looks (bigge= r, chrome-plated, more "manly," etc., LOL).
 
I h= ave seen people get in fist fights over such silly, silly, silly choices - = one party simply cannot accept that the other party has chozen differently,= perhaps saying to themselves (or their other colleagues when the other par= ty is not around): "If only they would spend time getting to know the = one **I AM USING** they couldn't help but see what a dimwit they're being a= nd that **I AM RIGHT** and their full of crap - they should kiss my feet fo= r being given the benefit of my vast expetise."

These sorts of conflicts happen = in every walk of life and over every sort of possible subject matter - when= ever a personal human choice and opinion are involved there will be conflic= t . . . because we are all different.

It's the main reason that we will never acheive= the sort of "utopia" we all secretly (or otherwise) long for - e= very man, woman, child and dog of us can sometimes be d**kheads about our o= pinions.
It's the main reason lots of us don't "get along" with oneanothe= r.

I am no= t saying that anyone in this present discussion has shown any "d**khea= dedness" really (so far).

But I sort of understand the unspoken underlying messa= ge of your original post - that you have, at some point, experienced that d= **kheadedness somewhere along the way concerning your choice of the EDP - a= nd are asking why?

Here's my answer: Human nature.

=
Here's hoping you and yours have a happy 201= 1.

Ted
------=_Part_2468096_1571305617.1293904274859-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 17:57:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A159183493; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3obe6hlAzz0r1zyVF8RH52UFLXn8SzMPId2ELJsOm6I=; b=q2MLOD9we+ojZnnFAsw4vmpObpq81os0pFJ/yPSWDY43da9bvV0JIm8PLu+RgIKE4h lvWuIpTLXUhoOWvIJIlcz88+40d6MVEQQdyZfAXDeG4YFDsRYbyUWoFehPFOoySNpUhc 1g7sLTyKSDJAFryY4MnpGHU4cph4bxkKM0A+w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uG+WhOZpGv1DDx6RnoZbMuk4CJPa+/tRB+bHNRyargRd8J2rF4vGs1SJb+9QTNU/IM Jo+aUOu1LjxsK0nl74McQoUJoPtd/AxE0D9t8TVhuRkhFrypB3ualA6R1MGulV+6tuXq g5/ZHVxcxmILdbeuqHpwogUWJogiQtVxlAfv4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <978918733.2468104.1293904276520.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> References: <978918733.2468104.1293904276520.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 19:57:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a34d7b53b50498cca59b Resent-Message-ID: <75rLlD.A.dQC.yr2HNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:57:06 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a34d7b53b50498cca59b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sad but true. 2011/1/1 tEd =AE kiLLiAn > Hey there Mark, > > It's totally okay if you like the EDP. > > A carpenter will like one hammer over another for some obscure, essoteric= , > personal reason (often very far outside the knowledge of other users) or = for > reasons that it simpley works, lasts a long time, is cheap, or is the kin= d > they've always used (and why mess with a good thing); or again, simply > because their father used one just like it . . . or even more weirdly, it > may not even work as well but they are "in love" with the way it looks > (bigger, chrome-plated, more "manly," etc., LOL). > > I have seen people get in fist fights over such silly, silly, silly choic= es > - one party simply cannot accept that the other party has chozen > differently, perhaps saying to themselves (or their other colleagues when > the other party is not around): "If only they would spend time getting to > know the one **I AM USING** they couldn't help but see what a dimwit they= 're > being and that **I AM RIGHT** and their full of crap - they should kiss m= y > feet for being given the benefit of my vast expetise." > > These sorts of conflicts happen in every walk of life and over every sort > of possible subject matter - whenever a personal human choice and opinion > are involved there will be conflict . . . because we are all different. > > It's the main reason that we will never acheive the sort of "utopia" we a= ll > secretly (or otherwise) long for - every man, woman, child and dog of us = can > sometimes be d**kheads about our opinions. > > It's the main reason lots of us don't "get along" with oneanother. > > I am not saying that anyone in this present discussion has shown any > "d**kheadedness" really (so far). > > But I sort of understand the unspoken underlying message of your original > post - that you have, at some point, experienced that d**kheadedness > somewhere along the way concerning your choice of the EDP - and are askin= g > why? > > Here's my answer: Human nature. > > Here's hoping you and yours have a happy 2011. > > Ted > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a34d7b53b50498cca59b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sad but true.

2011/1/1 tEd =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@ch= arter.net>
Hey= there Mark,

It's totally okay if you like the EDP.

A carpenter w= ill like one hammer over another for some obscure, essoteric, personal reas= on (often very far outside the knowledge of other users) or for reasons tha= t it simpley works, lasts a long time, is cheap, or is the kind they've= always used (and why mess with a good thing); or again, simply because the= ir father used one just like it . . . or even more weirdly, it may not even= work as well but they are "in love" with the way it looks (bigge= r, chrome-plated, more "manly," etc., LOL).
=A0=
I have seen people get in fist fights over such silly, silly, sil= ly choices - one party simply cannot accept that the other party has chozen= differently, perhaps saying to themselves (or their other colleagues when = the other party is not around): "If only they would spend time getting= to know the one **I AM USING** they couldn't help but see what a dimwi= t they're being and that **I AM RIGHT** and their full of crap - they s= hould kiss my feet for being given the benefit of my vast expetise."

These sorts o= f conflicts happen in every walk of life and over every sort of possible su= bject matter - whenever a personal human choice and opinion are involved th= ere will be conflict . . . because we are all different.

It's the = main reason that we will never acheive the sort of "utopia" we al= l secretly (or otherwise) long for - every man, woman, child and dog of us = can sometimes be d**kheads about our opinions.

It's the = main reason lots of us don't "get along" with oneanother.

I am not saying that anyone in this present discussion has shown any &q= uot;d**kheadedness" really (so far).

But I sort of understand the unspoken underlying message of your origin= al post - that you have, at some point, experienced that d**kheadedness som= ewhere along the way concerning your choice of the EDP - and are asking why= ?

Here's my= answer: Human nature.

Here's hoping you a= nd yours have a happy 2011.

Ted



--
Petri Lahtinenhttp://www.pet= rilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a34d7b53b50498cca59b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 18:10:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAF58183494; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ve0Zn2K4DYYMhlfjswRcIL70dK+ePl/6oreJuy4++VY=; b=LGwLQqqQYPJ3lEpIAxvApo+QEMDeSEfL4kZkrFquKPNN3vk3G7KmyJwKgo6tom5uK6 0qvxGt7psDMu0Z9MNXta7e73NQSw8EMypa/7F4gQXkOsU8ApU57z7NEkmW9FfvIXbirQ m3oljBXGTPzbYWnEs9s/uKFPAuo+EC1MMevf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XO1Zdloy5qScztySBT7cJ+X5ScLfB+k6cRFNnNnB+ej34qBjtH7l+6Pi7rseG5bTlp v/uU8dudf4yLDzkR2bOvsOHVh9IS7c1TL8c3Ptgr1MAOYrZMz75anghb258uoK7eMMLN /CWUD9DnTvN7CAW4EQq/S1EoVqlR0Kczt4bS8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1211FFF5-E9C6-4C04-98CF-2911AE2434A8@1800dialword.com> References: <4D1E3F6D.3050905@cruzio.com> <1211FFF5-E9C6-4C04-98CF-2911AE2434A8@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 13:10:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a7192ed2440498ccd45f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:10:09 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a7192ed2440498ccd45f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Argh Andy, sorry good call, and that's a riot! On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > It was Akroyd, you ignorant slut!!! > > :)> > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Jan 1, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > > This is sincere and beautiful in the reality of what this community is > about and with me being naive to particularly the EDP, the discussion is > like a study with Mr Wizzard that I can wide-eyed benefit from but as I w= as > reading through Mark's opening and Rick and Bill back/forth I just starte= d > laughing thinking of the early Jane Curtain / Bill Murray news spoofs on > SNL, the 'Jane you ignorant slut!' routine that this innocently reminded = me. > > Beautiful guys. Wishing everyone a wonderful and creatively Happy New > Year. > > Jim > > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Gareth Whittock < > buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote: > >> Rick, >> Mark is simply stating that he likes the EDP. He gives his reason= s >> and I for one can understand them. He is aware of the looperlative but i= sn't >> interested in spending a lot of time programming it and a midi pedal to = use >> it. That seems straighforward. He prefers the EDP, you prefer Looperlati= ve - >> like I said horses for courses. >> >> Peace >> >> Gareth >> >> >> >> > Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:39:09 -0800 >> > From: looppool@cruzio.com >> > To: buddhamachine@live.co.uk >> > CC: >> loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >> > Subject: Re: RE: The EDP and the Looperlative and me >> >> > >> > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: >> > > This looks like a strat vs sg debate to me - it's what we call horse= s >> > > for courses over here. Choose your weapon gentlemen and PLAY! >> > > >> > > >> > I beg to differ, with respect, Gareth. >> > >> > I truly don't care what looper Mark uses. >> > >> > It's NOT a competition or a debate. >> > It's trying to be accurate in writing about a powerful instrument. >> > >> > Looperlative doesn't have the public profile that Gibson had with the >> > EDP originally (though >> > Gibson horribly let the EDP down imho) so when people research it on >> > the web, they >> > come upon discussions like the one that Mark initiated. >> > >> > I disagreed with his conclusions, so I have only been trying to set th= e >> > record straight about what the LP-1 can do....... >> > >> > .......not trying to diss the EDP or win some competition. >> > >> > Come on, I've hosted hundreds of loopers from all over the world and I= , >> > of all people, >> > truly believe that Music is the most important thing.............not >> > your equipment. >> > >> > The public at large is never going to judge someone's musical output b= y >> > whether they use software/hardware, strat/sg (lol, why doesn't >> > Danelectro make the >> > cut in that classis debate), edp, looperlative, roland, digitech, >> > boomerang, etc., etc. >> > >> > rick walker >> > >> > > > > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com= . > > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a7192ed2440498ccd45f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Argh Andy, sorry good call, and that's a riot!

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Andy Owens <= ;andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
It was Akroyd= , you ignorant slut!!!

:)>

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typ= ing might not be my best!

=

On Jan 1, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin &l= t;jimgoodinmu= sic@gmail.com> wrote:

This is sincere and bea= utiful in the reality of what this community is about and with me being nai= ve to particularly the EDP, the discussion is like a study with Mr Wizzard = that I can wide-eyed benefit from but as I was reading through Mark's o= pening and Rick and Bill back/forth I just started laughing thinking of the= early Jane Curtain / Bill Murray news spoofs on SNL, the 'Jane you ign= orant slut!' routine that this innocently reminded me.

Beautiful guys. =A0Wishing everyone a wonderful and creative= ly Happy New Year.

Jim

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Gareth Whittock &l= t;buddhamachine@live.c= o.uk> wrote:
Rick,
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Mark is simply stating that he=A0likes the EDP. He gives= his reasons and I for one can understand them. He is aware of the looperla= tive but isn't interested in spending a lot of time programming it and = a midi pedal to use it. That seems straighforward. He=A0prefers the EDP, yo= u prefer Looperlative - like I said horses for courses.
=A0
Peace
=A0
Gareth

=A0
=A0
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:39:09 -0800
> From: looppool@cruzio.com
> To: buddhamachine@live.co.uk
> CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: RE: T= he EDP and the Looperlative and me

>
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:
> > This looks li= ke a strat vs sg debate to me - it's what we call horses
> > = for courses over here. Choose your weapon gentlemen and PLAY!
> ><= br> > >
> I beg to differ, with respect, Gareth.
>
> I= truly don't care what looper Mark uses.
>
> It's NOT = a competition or a debate.
> It's trying to be accurate in writin= g about a powerful instrument.
>
> Looperlative doesn't have the public profile that Gibson = had with the
> EDP originally (though
> Gibson horribly let th= e EDP down imho) so when people research it on
> the web, they
> come upon discussions like the one that Mark initiated.
>
&g= t; I disagreed with his conclusions, so I have only been trying to set the<= br>> record straight about what the LP-1 can do.......
>
> .......not trying to diss the EDP or win some competition.
>
> Come on, I've hosted hundreds of loopers from all over th= e world and I,
> of all people,
> truly believe that Music is = the most important thing.............not
> your equipment.
> <= br> > The public at large is never going to judge someone's musical outp= ut by
> whether they use software/hardware, strat/sg (lol, why doesn&= #39;t
> Danelectro make the
> cut in that classis debate), edp= , looperlative, roland, digitech,
> boomerang, etc., etc.
>
> rick walker
>
=



--
From Brooklyn To Glindr= an, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 P= roceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodin= peterthorn.bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.com=
www.chinap= aintingmusic.com
woodandwir= emusic.wordpress.com



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by= Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD wi= ll benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wo= rdpress.com
--20cf3054a7192ed2440498ccd45f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 18:10:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 230671834A2; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-01_01:2010-12-31,2011-01-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101010052 Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Kenn Lowy In-reply-to: <20110101175708.32421183499@hemlock.violacea.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 13:10:08 -0500 Message-id: <2229E3E2-F595-4D6B-B4A4-33034800578F@me.com> References: <20110101175708.32421183499@hemlock.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:10:12 +0000 (UTC) In my case the looperlative just blows the EDP away. It's not just stereo, but having 8 tracks that I can fade together or independently, reverse, half speed, start and stop etc. Record in sync or out of sync (per track) and much more. I can also perform songs live that I could never do with the EDP. Record the verse, then the chorus, then the bridge and go back and forth and be able to overdub on any track. It's really powerful and I'm not using all of the features. I still have my two EDP's, but they don't get much use anymore. As for a computer based looper, I'm not sure you'd want to do that live. klowy (wrinklemuzik) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 18:12:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 954BE1834A8; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=uXfjZQFkLj+QOSjb18q2hJshYNGp3+ZFKXNelq2++is=; b=D1cMMNuS8ebeEgp6MD6QYccfXwQfrTtLVeHuMhNVgUQgSoj6LN0+ODx4uSySxVvFnp LGHX8EmUcWytyO7peLPuv6ZcZW53jYdtlchzBoPbOSBeQExVIpr+SQ05AviU+OTwEZDX XbMIUM88N+LusIfvo04uX9J2vwj8LAr7NafJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=cY4JO1NXFC1VM0a3l/M1hwBO7suKGwJaMhjHwij9UhgDbiXYep86djxeZDD97xUclc zC5yGnr3jY5kVccrHiEexMON0nXP4E2878jiQ5+SG5LfgohXJI454OLr0oY4z4HJ4zvL vrAFPsTFXn3FfjKsrUbzIZM0S+8SwIGvxAfR0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D1E3F6D.3050905@cruzio.com> <14806E05-BDE0-4C73-9B43-80DBC1FF4398@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 13:12:36 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a5293fe1640498ccde79 Resent-Message-ID: <-TXoOC.A.4tC.p62HNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:12:57 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a5293fe1640498ccde79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable whatever it be, it'll be good. On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Heck yes, what can we get them off on next???? > > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Dec 31, 2010, at 7:22 PM, "Todd Reynolds" wrote: > > God I love you guys. I benefit SO much from these convos, and I'm an > Ableton guy these days, with heavy EDP experience and just never had the > extra cash for an LP-1. > > Just lovely constructive banter from great individuals and musicians. > Thanks all, and happy new year! > > Bests. Todd. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 31, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > >> This looks like a strat vs sg debate to me - it's what we call horses > for courses over here. Choose your weapon gentlemen and PLAY! > >> > >> > > I beg to differ, with respect, Gareth. > > > > I truly don't care what looper Mark uses. > > > > It's NOT a competition or a debate. > > It's trying to be accurate in writing about a powerful instrument. > > > > Looperlative doesn't have the public profile that Gibson had with the E= DP > originally (though > > Gibson horribly let the EDP down imho) so when people research it on t= he > web, they > > come upon discussions like the one that Mark initiated. > > > > I disagreed with his conclusions, so I have only been trying to set the > > record straight about what the LP-1 can do....... > > > > .......not trying to diss the EDP or win some competition. > > > > Come on, I've hosted hundreds of loopers from all over the world and I= , > of all people, > > truly believe that Music is the most important thing.............not yo= ur > equipment. > > > > The public at large is never going to judge someone's musical output by > > whether they use software/hardware, strat/sg (lol, why doesn't > Danelectro make the > > cut in that classis debate), edp, looperlative, roland, digitech, > boomerang, etc., etc. > > > > rick walker > > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 In C Remixed now released on iTunes and Amazon! :: Read about it here.= .. http://bit.ly/3Pm4g3 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf3054a5293fe1640498ccde79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable whatever it be, it'll be good. =A0

On= Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
Heck yes, what can we get them off on next???= ?


Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent fr= om my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Dec 31, 2010, at = 7:22 PM, "Todd Reynolds" <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:

God I love you guys. I b= enefit SO much from these convos, and I'm an Ableton guy these days, wi= th heavy EDP experience and just never had the extra cash for an LP-1.

Just lovely constructive banter from great individuals and musicians. Thank= s all, and happy new year!

Bests. Todd.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:
>> This looks like a strat vs sg debate to me=A0 - it's what we c= all horses for courses over here. Choose your weapon gentlemen and PLAY! >>
>>
> I beg to differ, with respect, Gareth.
>
> I truly don't care what looper Mark uses.
>
> It's NOT a competition or a debate.
> It's trying to be accurate in writing about a powerful instrument.=
>
> Looperlative doesn't have the public profile that Gibson had with = the EDP originally (though
> Gibson horribly let the EDP down imho)=A0 so when people research it o= n the web, they
> come upon discussions like the one that Mark initiated.
>
> I disagreed with his conclusions, so I have only been trying to set th= e
> record straight about what the LP-1 can do.......
>
> .......not trying to diss the EDP or win some competition.
>
> Come on,=A0 I've hosted hundreds of loopers from all over the worl= d and I, of all people,
> truly believe that Music is the most important thing.............not y= our equipment.
>
> The public at large is never going to judge someone's musical outp= ut by
> whether they use software/hardware,=A0 strat/sg (lol, why doesn't = Danelectro make the
> cut in that classis debate), edp, looperlative, roland, digitech, boom= erang, etc., etc.
>
> rick walker
>




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--20cf3054a5293fe1640498ccde79-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 18:18:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 091BF1834B3; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <8AF4CA038D8C4443AAAD0D2A84BCED22@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4D1F506D.1080702@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D1F506D.1080702@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Happy New Year to Come! Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:18:06 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Thank you Rainer, and a Merry New Year to all! Eighth Day of Christmas done for this year, er, last year, oh bag it. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11766899 -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 4:03 PM To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Re: Happy New Year to Come! Thanks, Stephen! That beautiful ingle/mellotron mood is a great way to start the new year. And a happy one to you, too (and everyone else...) Rainer Stephen Goodman schrieb: > While I suspect tonight’s Audio Tarot show is pre-empted by some mode of > merriment – We’re going down to the old 14th Century church near > midnight – I just finished the Seventh Day of Christmas show on > ustream.tv. > The happiest to all in the meantime! > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11743955 > -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 18:29:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76F8C1834B8; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=vQkQQsbk+jMYXDjTkd2s8rD8i44yJAa62PKvu08naBI=; b=kpqicrWU26xxDmDSHnLXqzgzWRKcBsE7JJ+lwmPwIwLz88YQUezjni7Z9KiAtGHjGI 0/MXfwNZ/Ig5awNV5VnVenCPM6Mu/n5G/ksAQ3IM4d/TvGJBMduytD6R/0FASR3z7fDS w7GFClV5hQOdFQBbnL7JqGAJ329+Y0YX+m6eE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=c4t/YrfXZg9ZiIbnp6q/4dxRh34OD0G+j0/pwdrEioz7d/NLLTX5F+nb19p4TSntnB 9+xIvixZ88eJJSQ7sEzwRwtPsP2K6gDR+Zehd9NZTUCJtQD+XDVO/NGyu2Zk5VXRQFRL EYY4iok5xbJkXJ6S3vuRQcoBpSTM0zmH/tvwI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <978918733.2468104.1293904276520.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> References: <978918733.2468104.1293904276520.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> From: todd reynolds Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 13:29:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a5d0e4e0630498cd19ce Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:29:38 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a5d0e4e0630498cd19ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted, Rick, Mark, Andy, Bill, all.... If I might dip my toe into this puddle... The other side of this human nature coin you cite, Ted, and which I'm alway= s happy to see on this list, is simple passion. Evangelism so often gets a bad rap, and having come from an evangelistic, passionate family (religious in nature), I've had to learn to be aware of when to stop, even though my own evangelistic tendencies have turned away from religious ideas, the place where Evangelism so easily thrives. I recognize myself in this EDP/LP-1 conversation or equivalent ones, so eager to share what I think is a rewarding idea or point of view. Frankly, when I see the passion with which people on our list share their methods, their gear, it makes me nothing but happy. When I see the conversation heated but respectful, then I'm filled with... um... respect. We've got lots of passionate folks on this list and when they do throw down the conversation most likely escalates, but I must say in a good way these days. I remember a few years ago when convos would degenerate so quickly and become personal. Knock on wood, this happens much less frequently thes= e days. What happens instead are these impassioned sharings where I see the "but... but... if you'd only give this a chance" thing happening. Of course, at some point one or the other has to say, "okay, I get it, conversation over, this is my choice and I've said enough, explored this enough", but until that time the passion excites the list and promotes inclusion in the conversation. Of course, now it's making me wanna buy a looperlative instead of an iPad, but this is my own internal spiritual struggle, lol. My dos pesos. Todd On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wr= ote: > Hey there Mark, > > It's totally okay if you like the EDP. > > A carpenter will like one hammer over another for some obscure, essoteric= , > personal reason (often very far outside the knowledge of other users) or = for > reasons that it simpley works, lasts a long time, is cheap, or is the kin= d > they've always used (and why mess with a good thing); or again, simply > because their father used one just like it . . . or even more weirdly, it > may not even work as well but they are "in love" with the way it looks > (bigger, chrome-plated, more "manly," etc., LOL). > > I have seen people get in fist fights over such silly, silly, silly choic= es > - one party simply cannot accept that the other party has chozen > differently, perhaps saying to themselves (or their other colleagues when > the other party is not around): "If only they would spend time getting to > know the one **I AM USING** they couldn't help but see what a dimwit they= 're > being and that **I AM RIGHT** and their full of crap - they should kiss m= y > feet for being given the benefit of my vast expetise." > > These sorts of conflicts happen in every walk of life and over every sort > of possible subject matter - whenever a personal human choice and opinion > are involved there will be conflict . . . because we are all different. > > It's the main reason that we will never acheive the sort of "utopia" we a= ll > secretly (or otherwise) long for - every man, woman, child and dog of us = can > sometimes be d**kheads about our opinions. > > It's the main reason lots of us don't "get along" with oneanother. > > I am not saying that anyone in this present discussion has shown any > "d**kheadedness" really (so far). > > But I sort of understand the unspoken underlying message of your original > post - that you have, at some point, experienced that d**kheadedness > somewhere along the way concerning your choice of the EDP - and are askin= g > why? > > Here's my answer: Human nature. > > Here's hoping you and yours have a happy 2011. > > Ted > --001636c5a5d0e4e0630498cd19ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted, Rick, Mark, Andy, Bill, all....=A0

If I might dip m= y toe into this puddle...=A0

The other side of this huma= n nature coin you cite, Ted, and which I'm always happy to see on this = list, is simple passion.

Evangelism so often gets a bad rap, and having come fro= m an evangelistic, passionate family (religious in nature), I've had to= learn to be aware of when to stop, even though my own evangelistic tendenc= ies have turned away from religious ideas, the place where Evangelism so ea= sily thrives. =A0I recognize myself in this EDP/LP-1 conversation or equiva= lent ones, so eager to share what I think is a rewarding idea or point of v= iew. Frankly, when I see the passion with which people on our list share th= eir methods, their gear, it makes me nothing but happy. When I see the conv= ersation heated but respectful, then I'm filled with... um... respect.<= /div>

We've got lots of passionate folks on this list and= when they do throw down the conversation most likely escalates, but I must= say in a good way these days. =A0I remember a few years ago when convos wo= uld degenerate so quickly and become personal. =A0Knock on wood, this happe= ns much less frequently these days. =A0What happens instead are these impas= sioned sharings where I see the "but... but... if you'd only give = this a chance" thing happening. =A0

Of course, at some point one or the other has to say, &= quot;okay, I get it, conversation over, this is my choice and I've said= enough, explored this enough", but until that time the passion excite= s the list and promotes inclusion in the conversation.=A0

Of course, now it's making me wanna buy a looperlat= ive instead of an iPad, but this is my own internal spiritual struggle, lol= .

My dos pesos.

Todd

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, tEd = =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Hey= there Mark,

It's totally okay if you like the EDP.

A carpenter w= ill like one hammer over another for some obscure, essoteric, personal reas= on (often very far outside the knowledge of other users) or for reasons tha= t it simpley works, lasts a long time, is cheap, or is the kind they've= always used (and why mess with a good thing); or again, simply because the= ir father used one just like it . . . or even more weirdly, it may not even= work as well but they are "in love" with the way it looks (bigge= r, chrome-plated, more "manly," etc., LOL).
=A0=
I have seen people get in fist fights over such silly, silly, sil= ly choices - one party simply cannot accept that the other party has chozen= differently, perhaps saying to themselves (or their other colleagues when = the other party is not around): "If only they would spend time getting= to know the one **I AM USING** they couldn't help but see what a dimwi= t they're being and that **I AM RIGHT** and their full of crap - they s= hould kiss my feet for being given the benefit of my vast expetise."

These sorts o= f conflicts happen in every walk of life and over every sort of possible su= bject matter - whenever a personal human choice and opinion are involved th= ere will be conflict . . . because we are all different.

It's the = main reason that we will never acheive the sort of "utopia" we al= l secretly (or otherwise) long for - every man, woman, child and dog of us = can sometimes be d**kheads about our opinions.

It's the = main reason lots of us don't "get along" with oneanother.

I am not saying that anyone in this present discussion has shown any &q= uot;d**kheadedness" really (so far).

But I sort of understand the unspoken underlying message of your origin= al post - that you have, at some point, experienced that d**kheadedness som= ewhere along the way concerning your choice of the EDP - and are asking why= ?

Here's my= answer: Human nature.

Here's hoping you a= nd yours have a happy 2011.

Ted





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text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 10:54:00 -0800 References: <20110101175707.C3E8C18349B@hemlock.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Mark, Ted, Gareth , Jim, et all, I really appreciate what you all have to say but I believe you were missing my point . I see no conflict here, I see no apples or oranges scenario. No d#ckhead dissing of another mans ride. Its really ok for me if Mark prefers to use the EDP. I also can relate to not wanting to devote a lot of time to a new learning curve, which if the truth be told is one of two primary reasons I have not made the leap to lap top (the other of course being money), particularly if you are unsure if its the right tool. But from what I've gathered from your basic needs, you can accomplish it all on an LP-1 and get the stereo you enjoy. You will need a dedicated midi foot controller but you might find you will appreciate having that to control your EDPs if you choose to let go of your LP-1. I'm advocating the same thing I always advocate, dig as deeply as you can in to your tools and see what they have to offer. I'm doing that very thing right now with my DAW, which for the longest time, and because of piece meal education and basic ludite lazziness, has kept me moving past my basic understanding of the tools. I'm the first guy to admit I'd rather play than program. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 19:21:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDEFB1834B3; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 19:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3BF0384B-7EA0-44D8-8AAE-CDA7E4D6C4FD@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--77600471 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 11:21:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 19:21:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--77600471 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Happy New Year to everyone! And you as well Per I think it can be a bit confusing to just talk only about "which looper" you like to use. Better then to start out speaking about what you want to do with looping in your music. So here's what I want to do: - I want to just start playing music and record a loop whenever I feel for it. My looper should then provide a tempo sync signal for other gear to follow. My looper can do that!!!!!!!WooHoo!!!! - My looper should allow me to start with any length for my first loop. Whatever musical part I start playing, and loop, the looper should calculate a corresponding global tempo within a musically comfortable tempo range. If I should start my concert with a 763 millisecond micro loop my looper should multiply the tempo base until reaching a reference cycle corresponding to a tempo within my preferred tempo range. If I should start my concert with a four minute long loop my looper should divide my loop until reaching a reference cycle corresponding to a comfy tempo. this can be done on the LP-1 with multiply for your first example, and there is a work around to achieve the same result for your second example - My looper should record stereo loops from any audio input I assign to it, even mono inputs. you got me there, LP-1 does not process mono to stereo, true stereo in and out, I use a hardware work around solution, the stereo outputs from my line 6 M-9 - Loop length can be changed either instantly by multiplying or dividing - with any number (even 3, 5, 7, 9 etc) - or in real-time while on-the-fly overdubbing a longer layer over a bunch of copies of my first loop, for as long as I go (traditional "EDP Multiply") bounce can achieve this on the LP-1 - My looper should allow me to stack many alternative loops, in a linear way, and instantly decide which one of them should play back, switching playback loop according to my preferred quantize qrid (or un-quantized, if I happen to be in that mode...) not quite sure what you mean other than yes the LP-1 can do ABC song form - My looper has to allow several parallel playback channels, as above, so I can run multiple loops simultaneously and have fun with different loop lengths, parallel loops inter locking in a synced way or "free-wheeling". yes - My looper has to be able to change playback speed (good old "vari-speed" effect) both tonally quantized to semi tone steps and continuously (seamless pitch/speed shifting). hmmm a qualified yes for the first , definite yes for the second - For all functionality I prefer a modular approach, so I can set up a bunch of actions to be triggered at once, or in sequence. yes up to 8 actions, at once though sequencing cannot be done unless you have a midi controller capable of delayed command scripts like the LG. - When working with several parallel loops I want to instantly decide which ones of the loops that will be targeted for the command I give; not being limited to manipulate only one loop at a time. The only thing you can't do is group recording of multiple tracks at once. however you can do performance changes of groups of tracks or individual tracks while remaining in overdub or replace on a separate track, for example change one tracks pitch while still in over dub on another. Summing up these wishes there is a bit of the EDP and a bit of the LP-1 functionality. But the closest solution for me is to run Mobius on a laptop. That gives me everything except for one wish: continuous seamless pitch/speed shifting. have you tried assigning track speed to a continuous controller on you LG? I can for example assign an expression predal that will move from normal speed to 1/4 speed and back creating the time stratch+ pitch bend effect similar to the one we all know and love from the Repeater with the exception that you can't time stretch without changing the pitch. Per Bill --Apple-Mail-5--77600471 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Happy New Year to = everyone!

And you as well Per
I think it can be a bit = confusing to just talk only about "which
looper" you like to use. = Better then to start out speaking about what
you want to do with = looping in your music. So here's what I want to
do:


- I = want to just start playing music and record a loop whenever I = feel
for it. My looper should then provide a tempo sync signal for = other
gear to follow.
My looper can do = that!!!!!!!WooHoo!!!!

- My looper should allow me = to start with any length for my first
loop. Whatever musical part I = start playing, and loop, the looper
should calculate a corresponding = global tempo within a musically
comfortable tempo range. If I should = start my concert with a 763
millisecond micro loop my looper should = multiply the tempo base until
reaching a reference cycle = corresponding to a tempo within my
preferred tempo range. If I should = start my concert with a four minute
long loop my looper should divide = my loop until reaching a reference
cycle corresponding to a comfy = tempo.

this can be done on the LP-1 with multiply for your = first example, and there is a work around to achieve the same result for = your second example


- My looper = should record stereo loops from any audio input I assign
to it, even = mono inputs.

you got me there, LP-1 does not process mono to = stereo, true stereo in and out, I use a hardware work around solution, = the stereo outputs from my line 6 = M-9


- Loop length can be changed = either instantly by multiplying or
dividing - with any number (even = 3, 5, 7, 9 etc) - or in real-time
while on-the-fly overdubbing a = longer layer over a bunch of copies of
my first loop, for as long as = I go (traditional "EDP Multiply")

 bounce can achieve = this on the LP-1

- My looper should allow me to = stack many alternative loops, in a
linear way, and instantly decide = which one of them should play back,
switching playback loop according = to my preferred quantize qrid (or
un-quantized, if I happen to be in = that mode...)

not quite sure what you mean other than yes the LP-1 = can do ABC song form

- My looper has to allow several = parallel playback channels, as above,
so I can run multiple loops = simultaneously and have fun with different
loop lengths, parallel = loops inter locking in a synced way or
"free-wheeling".

yes

- = My looper has to be able to change playback speed (good = old
"vari-speed" effect) both tonally quantized to semi tone steps = and
continuously (seamless pitch/speed shifting).

hmmm a qualified yes for = the first , definite yes for the second
- For all = functionality I prefer a modular approach, so I can set up a
bunch of = actions to be triggered at once, or in = sequence.

 yes up to 8 actions, at once  though = sequencing cannot be done unless you have a midi controller capable of = delayed command scripts like the LG.

- When working with = several parallel loops I want to instantly decide
which ones of the = loops that will be targeted for the command I give;
not being limited = to manipulate only one loop at a time.

The only thing you = can't do is group recording of multiple tracks at once. however you can = do performance changes of groups of tracks or individual tracks while = remaining in overdub or replace on a separate track, for example change = one tracks pitch while still in over dub on = another.

Summing up these wishes there is a bit of the EDP = and a bit of the
LP-1 functionality. But the closest solution for me = is to run Mobius
on a laptop. That gives me everything except for one = wish: continuous
seamless pitch/speed = shifting.

have you tried assigning track speed to a continuous = controller on you LG? I can for example assign an expression predal that = will move from normal speed to 1/4 speed and back  creating the = time stratch+ pitch bend effect  similar to the one we all know and = love from the Repeater with the exception that you can't time stretch = without changing the = pitch.

Per

Bill
= --Apple-Mail-5--77600471-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 20:23:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AF9318348D; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 20:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y35fzKeFcK36ZtjWiCBB5Ualh+KoZ9iSdFKzuQKF+So=; b=KXJLr0iKjDMZiYvTnDzdNhRwxA1NxeZvt5hHhu8diWO3I/MrzUKG7W+AVBMTrsY7lW dHVpvzFNVmh3C9PmqX1R04QypZBmxIMkynQW6siIBbAMxTLxi9cG/JML3N8RlsFK7++8 ITp3WPqqZiNO2xHGUN5TrxwZ/At4dvCetJCjc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G5KODso3LiBRaijxyX8oBY0Hy6zEWc2xkNSbz6CM/xrnMa7mrsZebZAla5475OwpWz 7UQeutLeo+8U+DdDqMldDmhLgHzfJ47npTjcHO8q3CR1Yo0xeOxCZYPA53XX7NHhNE6o SyikBD+TPxyF5Z1k17NksbBH4N4AGofDTMeq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3BF0384B-7EA0-44D8-8AAE-CDA7E4D6C4FD@baymoon.com> References: <3BF0384B-7EA0-44D8-8AAE-CDA7E4D6C4FD@baymoon.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:23:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 20:23:46 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:21 PM, William Walker wro= te: > have you tried assigning track speed to a continuous controller on you LG= ? "Track Speed"? That must be "Looperlative-ish". I assign a lot of looper parameters to CC by the LG. But the issue with Mobius is that Speed Shift is snapping to semi note values - if talking pitch, loop length changes too of course with the "vari-speed" tweak. I can live with that tough, fast sweeps sound like seamless transpositions if you don't listen like a purist (after all, music is about showing attitude by implying gestures - not about perfection) > I can for example assign an expression predal that will move from normal = speed > to 1/4 speed and back =C2=A0creating the time stratch+ pitch bend effect Ultra cool! > similar to the one we all know and love from the Repeater Loved that effect back when I was using a Repeater. :-) > with the exception that > you can't time stretch without changing the pitch. That's something I dig! Love it when the rhythm falls apart as multiple simultaneous loops pitch shift into forming new chords. I find it interesting to explore what new rhythmic relations are born with certain tonal intervals and use that knowledge when improvising music. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 21:22:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE287183494; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 549749037/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.122.192/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.122.192 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuIBAMcpH01PRnrA/2dsb2JhbAAMlhzLAYJqgmAEjhU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,261,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="549749037" Message-ID: <4D1F9B2F.9050800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 21:22:55 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me References: <91FBD053-58FE-4BDD-9068-294501242FB5@grubmah.com> <4D1E3D8E.7080807@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D1E3D8E.7080807@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4UI7XB.A._5H.js5HNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:22:43 +0000 (UTC) > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> I'm not sure why it's so important to you and Rick that I come to love >> the LP-1. Rick Walker wrote: > It does concern me, however, when you compare it critically in print and > the fact of the matter > is that you haven't sat down and done your homework in your criticism. > I've just been trying to make the record straight in the interest of > fair critique and > analysis. > To be fair, I think Mark made a very valid point. The EDP comes with a seven button interface "out of the box" which can do just as many tricks as a carefully programmed LP1. Yes, with the LP1 it's easy to set up a banks worth of buttons with a basic midi controller. What isn't easy is to pick a bank of buttons that will more or less do everything a particular user would want to do. Apart from that, they're just such *very* different beasts. Being familiar with one is bound to make the other seem awkward, and to transfer from either one to the other would mean giving up a lot. respectfully andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 21:36:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 996EB183495; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dRoNtZbwnsLyxy+TPrRSFZLIHKxX4zQE3xS0HAaIm/o=; b=sN+0R8ZwWK8ie9+S44KefT9vHAzMIRH7RDycJJ8AwCYQ9VbpbXurHUsqpuiIyVtrY9 oEAMlcOluvZA2jmtJP+pQ42mA4xsPcsbUXrxFkz0aWzen8LKnpUdPDz0y5w6jB5ZCSNS +zjboUzUXnqHSXOF90RPxpL54E0fk1BAgL1yU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ONg3G8VhgiuGWCWtI0UxxOMBU1hrI5SAIjQDW9jQKaPdsngrg1tf7WuuROYMtcLU5G 9KQTYAcWjZYDykUuXkS2fjuj5nWosSfpCIdteoQtUmDkkRDYW19UV79EqEjRAzSdpCGR LqjI8KRJPsbQ+jN40tiRNqPCTMllurr9o2DuI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 15:36:07 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) // new eno From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6deddd3ea9e310498cfb47f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:36:09 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6deddd3ea9e310498cfb47f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 it's funny.i've had the boss slicer for a yr now, use it occassionally, just never found a great use for it w/ my guitar stuff. i could never get it to sound as cool as the boss guy demoing that i've seen on youtube (johnny demarco or whatever his name is). so in the last few weeks i've played w/ it here and there, actually turned some knobs-i'm so lazy!!! still not much excitement. occassionally i'll use it w/ my drum machine to spice that up, which it works great for, and probably best for me. so anyway, this am, i play a bit of guitar, turn it on, i think i had most of the direct sound off (or maybe just a hair amt of it), but mostly effect... i have it on (to what bank or option-i have no idea), and i just percussively hit the guitar, slap it, scrape (sort of thinking what andre LF does so well w/ his edp stuff-to my ears anyway). and i don't think it's anything special i'm doing, but at random pt i hit the record button on my behringer tweakalizer to record a random 2 sec. i hit the play button, and the glitchy sounds that repeat and repeat are most inspiring, i mean it sounded way better than my playing. and for some reason it sounds vaguely like andre's glitchy stuff to me (probably not as good...) so then i turn on my fuzz and start playing over it and i'm like wow. this took me a yr to figure out? it sounded sooooo good. i then did a few more experiments w/ different settings & tried my drum machine too, and i was amazed. i know i've heard Rick W. sing the praises of this thing, and how he said he uses the randomness of it, and i just discovered it after a yr. kind of funny. as i sit and type i'm listening to the new eno stuff on youtube w/ headphones. wow, some good stuff! s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0016e6deddd3ea9e310498cfb47f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
it's funny.i've had the boss slicer for a yr now, use it occas= sionally, just never found a great use for it w/ my guitar stuff.
i could never get it to sound as cool as the boss guy demoing that i&#= 39;ve seen on youtube (johnny demarco or whatever his name is).
so in the last few weeks i've played w/ it here and there, actuall= y turned some knobs-i'm so lazy!!! still not much excitement.
occassionally i'll use it w/ my drum machine to spice that up, whi= ch it works great for, and probably best for me.
so anyway, this am, i play a bit of guitar, turn it on, i think i had = most of the direct sound off (or maybe just a hair amt of it), but mostly e= ffect...
i have it on (to what bank or option-i have no idea), and i just percu= ssively hit the guitar, slap it, scrape (sort of thinking what andre LF doe= s so well
w/ his edp stuff-to my ears anyway).
and i don't think it's anything special i'm doing, but at = random pt i hit the record button on my behringer tweakalizer to record a r= andom 2 sec.
i hit the play button, and the glitchy sounds that repeat and repeat a= re most inspiring, i mean it sounded way better than my playing.
and for some reason it sounds vaguely like andre's glitchy stuff t= o me (probably not as good...) so then i turn on my fuzz and start playing = over it
and i'm like wow. this took me a yr to figure out? it sounded sooo= oo good. i then did a few more experiments w/ different settings & trie= d my drum machine too,
and i was amazed.
i know i've heard Rick W. sing the praises of this thing, and how = he said he uses the randomness of it, and i just discovered it after a yr.<= /div>
kind of funny.
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as i sit and type i'm listening to the new eno stuff on youtube w/= headphones. wow, some good stuff!
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--0016e6deddd3ea9e310498cfb47f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 22:03:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19AB218349A; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-01_01:2010-12-31,2011-01-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101010071 Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Kenn Lowy In-reply-to: <20110101184957.72883183487@hemlock.violacea.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:03:03 -0500 Message-id: <9F9CA772-E36F-41A8-B1FC-A6C66E8BE395@me.com> References: <20110101184957.72883183487@hemlock.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <3nly2C.A.98.aS6HNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:03:06 +0000 (UTC) You'll want both! The iPad is fast becoming a great musical tool. Of course there is that money issue of what you CAN buy vs. what you want to buy. On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > Of course, now it's making me wanna buy a looperlative instead of an iPad, but this is my own internal spiritual struggle, lol. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 22:41:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB6B81834A0; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ocbXPph2LX9verLwEpYxbqk+XNoKndxEKFPQIGj+nCE=; b=F8k3JFTsPSBEKjzstKEhITBAqrWiqzEJ3zbmfKVLt7EIw6+4VyvGncEWUOVqburpAT ObkydTNCG89+IpUT8te3UmHcU/Idh1AjJpc8N2UCdLBUYmL5aGJHaMWiMgTrgLsygdE9 maB8DVWQQIq9NzcynteKIvqX0Yo82FOlNv+HM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Gwn+0iQCiKwJKHglFe9DBcKQ3uuh7HSPhTnCSe+Yad0YJCbPBPTKGLY45wxd+Pnp0g X6Tma41L2DwfXapi6xU0pNlF4XPcv3/gkRpXFLhNRqJOA1whXciiEpLXMsSw1hJOxlgJ bNrGC6Au3Q//ievsWywYMjk1iiXQ/mKxz9+40= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9F9CA772-E36F-41A8-B1FC-A6C66E8BE395@me.com> References: <20110101184957.72883183487@hemlock.violacea.com> <9F9CA772-E36F-41A8-B1FC-A6C66E8BE395@me.com> From: "Jim W." Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 14:41:08 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502c868c7d2c40498d09f3a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:41:49 +0000 (UTC) --00504502c868c7d2c40498d09f3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have an EDP, Repeater, looperlative, & iPad. I looped with 3 variable-speed Revox 1/2 track decks in the 70s. Played live in a dub/punk band using tons of tape delays & tape loop devices on stage and at the sound board into the 80s. Since then, music creation has been at home & for my amusement. For looping, I would purchase the lp-1. But for overall usefulness, the iPad hands-down. My eyesight is degrading & the iPad is now my primary daily tool. However, I'm not now & never have been a guitarist. I play sitting down these days. I don't use foot pedals to control a looper with ease. I use a little midi knob box to control the lp-1 and the display of the looperlative is at my eye level and to the right. I need to see the red & green lights clearly for what I'm playing. The midi box sits nicely on the top end of an Alesis Fusion 8. I have found some guitarist friends tend to prefer the EDP because the whole foot pedal experience is a critical component in their playing style & impacts their sound & approach. My instruments are not very attached to the physicality of playing. Tools are fun to talk about on a cold New Year Day. Only my opinions & no disrespect intended; Best wishes to all of you. Jim W. Why are we calling it an EDP? I thought it was EPD for EchoPlexDeluxe? To me, EDP is a synth company that made the Wasp & Gnat. On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Kenn Lowy wrote: > You'll want both! The iPad is fast becoming a great musical tool. Of course > there is that money issue of what you CAN buy vs. what you want to buy. > > > On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.comwrote: > > > Of course, now it's making me wanna buy a looperlative instead of an > iPad, but this is my own internal spiritual struggle, lol. > > > > --00504502c868c7d2c40498d09f3a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an EDP, Repeater, looperlative, & iPad. =A0I looped with 3 varia= ble-speed Revox 1/2 track decks in the 70s. Played live in a dub/punk band = using tons of tape delays & tape loop devices on stage and at the sound= board into the 80s. =A0Since then, music creation has been at home & f= or my amusement.

For looping, I would purchase the lp-1. =A0But for overall= =A0usefulness, the iPad hands-down. My eyesight is degrading & the iPad= is now my primary daily tool.

However, I'm no= t now & never have been a guitarist. =A0I play sitting down these days.= I don't use foot pedals to control a looper with ease. I use a little = midi knob box to control the lp-1 and the display of the looperlative is at= my eye level and to the right. =A0I need to see the red & green lights= clearly for what I'm playing. The midi box=A0sits=A0nicely on the=A0to= p=A0end of an Alesis Fusion 8. I have found some guitarist friends tend to = prefer the EDP because the whole foot pedal experience is a critical compon= ent in their playing style & impacts their sound & approach. =A0My = instruments are not very attached to the physicality of playing.

Tools are fun to talk about on a cold New Year Day. Onl= y my opinions & no disrespect intended; Best wishes to all of you.

Jim W.

Why are we calling it = an EDP? =A0I thought it was EPD for EchoPlexDeluxe? =A0To me, EDP is a synt= h company that made the Wasp & Gnat.

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Kenn Lo= wy <kennlowy@me.com= > wrote:
You'll want both! The iPad is fast becoming a great musical tool. Of co= urse there is that money issue of what you CAN buy vs. what you want to buy= .


On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:<= br>
> Of course, now it's making me wanna buy a looperlative instead of = an iPad, but this is my own internal spiritual struggle, lol.
>


--00504502c868c7d2c40498d09f3a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 22:44:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD93A18349E; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EPrSVo8dN8NjWp9CLF0UfTtqtNelC9fJD4z7Y1Wezyk=; b=DQzsokorSfw2AjrG2cE6g3mCHyJMBdF5Tl/wQROg7QnWXbZkLq9FzF1EwZuCbdYY1m b4qjarFoC3ECYHq5uFrTCvY8gJVSQCm94brFgEtkHNCWz2Nt2xCqKg6i/OKQCD/u9Kdt sXJoJTREUeTbtUxQ+6l+uyQH4Vb1mGixWPYuU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SEqQJDZ86XIAi/5c2Mo6l3cVmkZ6RThmusHO/gL9DwWphBtkEL0P2MvxDdZbPgfU0l 1zOLP11vinehdKvEl4v4TZFOE0ByGEhbfRG5LcKDKmwXc/N+QieJAvRDhI46RPAhKDOi itHhbHFxQfndu0Ojvj54zfKxyPUTEvn/3zM5M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110101184957.72883183487@hemlock.violacea.com> <9F9CA772-E36F-41A8-B1FC-A6C66E8BE395@me.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 00:44:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ad1d4bf0620498d0a81b Resent-Message-ID: <4_IjZD.A.k3B.946HNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:44:13 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ad1d4bf0620498d0a81b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.vintagesynth.com/timeline/ You can find EDP here too :-) BTW remarkably well done site! 2011/1/2 Jim W. > I have an EDP, Repeater, looperlative, & iPad. I looped with 3 > variable-speed Revox 1/2 track decks in the 70s. Played live in a dub/punk > band using tons of tape delays & tape loop devices on stage and at the sound > board into the 80s. Since then, music creation has been at home & for my > amusement. > > For looping, I would purchase the lp-1. But for overall usefulness, the > iPad hands-down. My eyesight is degrading & the iPad is now my primary daily > tool. > > However, I'm not now & never have been a guitarist. I play sitting down > these days. I don't use foot pedals to control a looper with ease. I use a > little midi knob box to control the lp-1 and the display of the looperlative > is at my eye level and to the right. I need to see the red & green lights > clearly for what I'm playing. The midi box sits nicely on the top end of an > Alesis Fusion 8. I have found some guitarist friends tend to prefer the EDP > because the whole foot pedal experience is a critical component in their > playing style & impacts their sound & approach. My instruments are not very > attached to the physicality of playing. > > Tools are fun to talk about on a cold New Year Day. Only my opinions & no > disrespect intended; Best wishes to all of you. > > Jim W. > > Why are we calling it an EDP? I thought it was EPD for EchoPlexDeluxe? To > me, EDP is a synth company that made the Wasp & Gnat. > > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Kenn Lowy wrote: > >> You'll want both! The iPad is fast becoming a great musical tool. Of >> course there is that money issue of what you CAN buy vs. what you want to >> buy. >> >> >> On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.comwrote: >> >> > Of course, now it's making me wanna buy a looperlative instead of an >> iPad, but this is my own internal spiritual struggle, lol. >> > >> >> > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054ad1d4bf0620498d0a81b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.vintagesynth.c= om/timeline/

You can find EDP here too=A0 :-) =A0 BTW remarkably= well done site!



2011/1/2 Jim W. = <synchro1@gmail.= com>
I have an EDP, Re= peater, looperlative, & iPad. =A0I looped with 3 variable-speed Revox 1= /2 track decks in the 70s. Played live in a dub/punk band using tons of tap= e delays & tape loop devices on stage and at the sound board into the 8= 0s. =A0Since then, music creation has been at home & for my amusement.<= div>
For looping, I would purchase the lp-1. =A0But for overall= =A0usefulness, the iPad hands-down. My eyesight is degrading & the iPad= is now my primary daily tool.

However, I'm no= t now & never have been a guitarist. =A0I play sitting down these days.= I don't use foot pedals to control a looper with ease. I use a little = midi knob box to control the lp-1 and the display of the looperlative is at= my eye level and to the right. =A0I need to see the red & green lights= clearly for what I'm playing. The midi box=A0sits=A0nicely on the=A0to= p=A0end of an Alesis Fusion 8. I have found some guitarist friends tend to = prefer the EDP because the whole foot pedal experience is a critical compon= ent in their playing style & impacts their sound & approach. =A0My = instruments are not very attached to the physicality of playing.

Tools are fun to talk about on a cold New Year Day. Onl= y my opinions & no disrespect intended; Best wishes to all of you.

Jim W.

Why are we calling it = an EDP? =A0I thought it was EPD for EchoPlexDeluxe? =A0To me, EDP is a synt= h company that made the Wasp & Gnat.

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Kenn Lo= wy <kennlowy@me.com> wrote:
You'll want both! The iPad is fast becoming a great musical tool. Of co= urse there is that money issue of what you CAN buy vs. what you want to buy= .


On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delig= ht.com wrote:

> Of course, now it's making me wanna buy a looperlative instead of = an iPad, but this is my own internal spiritual struggle, lol.
>





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http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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--20cf3054ad1d4bf0620498d0a81b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 1 23:14:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8240818349C; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 23:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=2 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101010074 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-01_01:2010-12-31,2011-01-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Message-id: <1059CE55-14CD-4086-8D4C-3A5BA98A9DD9@mac.com> From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers Delight Subject: free pitch shift delay Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:14:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 23:14:39 +0000 (UTC) "Bode-style frequency shifter + analog echo emulation" free: http://www.valhalladsp.com/freqecho.html picked up the reverb plug in earlier in the week - 2 thumbs up IMHO From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 00:49:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50739183451; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 00:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:references:from :content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=og+0clQI1JuVZTPCYZfCVzKCE6XJrTpMUw/5fs/Rjp8=; b=x6ThOG07TEofdbFfE4ChknuwL0+R2+ZHUWrCDKos7kbGZWmiEm9Erl9ogRUsflZQGf qcXZ9hyeFcpuvBAjYrBiOvvm2no7AAqDnYQgBZPNmZH6l2evIRaBOmk9HfKIC938F2z8 LilN4Lgpjjg6I7DyUEYh4n68bugDQxPCqcpl0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=czTFTxAqa0/ovFMv0rXZ1zj0pYNSMpwC+qSFSlffPCVzVEFvCFXghxJfozg81tYYql 46QY6sBw9ZGAy6gA8qGrbNrcY6vE3fBlqnqfAX7PySV311LK44a0ZNQWV2hekho3XRR2 OkHX/niMh8SZKUAIWZG5JIWeUbZgLYCeJtjeA= Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator References: <240EA823-F746-4BDA-9102-821765B79CBC@googlemail.com> <-6764800028453888708@unknownmsgid> <4D1F63CD.1030602@tiscali.co.uk> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--57804586 X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 00:51:27 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 00:49:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--57804586 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This might sound silly, but what about a simple latching hold pedal? Sent from my iPod On 1 Jan 2011, at 17:31, mark francombe wrote: > no need Andy.. I bought it... this is as a result of playing for a bit... >=20 > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:26 PM, andy butler wrote= : > you can always download the demo again, > I did that for several months 'till > one time they hadn't put the latest up quick enough. >=20 > andy >=20 >=20 > mark francombe wrote: > that all swings it really dont it... have to dive into Bidule again.. wher= es the hot visa card..? >=20 > M >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no --Apple-Mail-5--57804586 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
This might sound silly, but what about a simple latching hold pedal?

Sent from my iPod

On 1 Jan 2011, at 17:31, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

no need Andy.. I bought it... this is as a result of playing for a bit...

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:26 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
you can always download the demo again,
I did that for several months 'till
one time they hadn't put the latest up quick enough.

andy


mark francombe wrote:
that all swings it really dont it... have to dive into Bidule again.. wheres the hot visa card..?

M




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--Apple-Mail-5--57804586-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 00:55:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2405E183454; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 00:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hrFdr3oINu8L4zniMedRyP4mxxHpzONfEH5Qh/hZwaI=; b=A9Io0wgGrodyigxXK2Sl1drIrTaRmc1yXkhXpJ1cg/HykE7bEferAnlDVuOgAYztWg PfnvEe8FMtRUy0IU8EBbXAfzfLkLlYodH84o8kmUoLuMwyUxDIr8EK0M5+qO4fVM16ZP 33tWUCMPexPYJmjRvYm2peK/Jcicul+cUuVPA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Oux1OTLQc/vN04Ee3DyrA85l6mTPeBYTJO+y/NoxFc5qd+WE7BZjKVY/YdlvBKGj/n UIB3qGsqxsUtnXqUJEBy09MHPzQduWHuWECUTvl4g2vWbIi5V0aev9Auhr20X++ZSzXg czIT7gafL/vgj7wzuwbR7U8c12FOZObfD9IIs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110101184957.72883183487@hemlock.violacea.com> <9F9CA772-E36F-41A8-B1FC-A6C66E8BE395@me.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:55:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 00:55:20 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Jim W. wrote: > Why are we calling it an EDP? Echoplex Digital Pro. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 01:02:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE562183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3TxT8/sNNhFkn1ghHNQYxlCO1V/4wt2L+gbL41sh7lE=; b=xF74mWl309TuPTLH8DGICBD4TYuiFgli8600jnG1ZkqTi88irg+QqJkC00QF6PXWjl xTzizFmS9kOOUPtC7aI8qmhqcojLaCR/TKDn4vmJQewdYjTHJ9xQ3JxjQFPOm4WHIMoZ FJFDq+PSoTA2BGtFx8C5XU0x+XvtUX/LtBbg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RgfinuLrp5dWO7W2ce6B7zJKtcr1nvIGQZbU4yhGAMtvk8Zx8a6bv+xzp4S13m2PoR RP3Ck1NvNn1Dn6xU4oHX7p9qeRsm32L5kvs5k5G0hYo6Fj1V5+1p+RkU+rj+3muAmMNu ElBsASYucM1fBbmT38IniCfVLibGCCt8aYjnA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:02:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lovely From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364edb0ca2fc430498d29783 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:02:43 +0000 (UTC) --0016364edb0ca2fc430498d29783 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cool. Must be analogue synthesis with controls built into the guitar body(?) On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > http://www.yle.fi/elavaarkisto/?s=s&g=8&ag=95&t=541&a=4737 > > :-) > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > --0016364edb0ca2fc430498d29783 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool. =A0Must be=A0analogue synthesis with controls built into the guitar b= ody(?)=A0

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:55 A= M, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
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--0016364edb0ca2fc430498d29783-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 01:57:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1A7A183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 10:56:54 +0900 Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Thread-Index: AcuqIFRJrtNEA7bBR2Kz1nkmDjAIHA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3376810616_12798659" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:56:59 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3376810616_12798659 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 1/2/11 3:29 AM, "todd reynolds" wrote: > Of course, now it's making me wanna buy a looperlative instead of an iPad= , but > this is my own internal spiritual struggle, lol. I have a Looperlative, and the wife has an iPad. They=B9re both fantastic, s= o whichever you decide I=B9m sure you=B9ll love it. :) --m. --B_3376810616_12798659 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me On 1/2/11 3:2= 9 AM, "todd reynolds" <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:

Of course, now it's making me wanna buy a looperlative i= nstead of an iPad, but this is my own internal spiritual struggle, lol.

I have a Looperlative, and the wife has an iPad.  They’re both f= antastic, so whichever you decide I’m sure you’ll love it.  = ;:)

        --m.
 --B_3376810616_12798659-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 02:57:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 145A2183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 02:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 11:57:40 +0900 Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Thread-Index: AcuqKNF5MK8z3u2IQLyrNVF6Sh/rXA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3376814261_12988448" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 02:57:44 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3376814261_12988448 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 1/2/11 1:45 AM, "mark francombe" wrote: > Ive only tried the Looperlative once, and I must say in terms of "what it > could do" I couldnt get the owner to explain me anything that really seem= s > crazily impossibly different and new than the EDP. Excepting of course th= e > obvious 3 main differences. mono verses stereo, multiple tracks and audio > quality... You left out a big one: the ability to stack commands in the LP-1. Using a decent MIDI controller(!), you can put together whole sets of commands that can be fired off with a single button press =8B almost like a =8Cmacro=B9 or simple Mobius script. For instance, I put together a command that emulates what I call the =8CRed House=B9 effect (listen to =8CTwo Soldiers=B9 or =8CThe Red House=B9 from David Byrne=B9s =B3The Catherine Wheel=B2 to hear what I=B9m talking about). With this one, the loop buffer starts to fill as long as I have the MIDI pedal depressed. The moment I let up on the pedal, it immediately begins to loop whatever was in the buffer. Depress it again, and the previous buffer is immediately erased and begins filling a second time. This allows me to tap the pedal quickly to capture very short looped snippets =8B or stutters =8B of sound. A slightly longer tap means a slightly longer snippet. If I tap several times while playing a line, it almost sounds like realtime granular= , as the loop buffer grabs one =8Csnapshot=B9 after another of what I=B9m playing. Another one I put together allows me to do time-stretch, in conjunction wit= h an outboard pitch-shift unit on the Auxiliary outs (oh yeah, multiple outputs: there=B9s another feature not mentioned above). I=B9ll begin recordin= g a loop as normal. Then I=B9ve a command that closes/plays the loop, assigns it to Aux Out 1 (where it=B9s sent to a pitch shifter set to +1 octave, then routed back into the LP-1), drops to Half-Speed, and starts a Bounce on the next track. This results in the recording of a time-stretched track that i= s twice the length, but at the same pitch as the original. I can also begin to get Repeater-esque degrade effects, dependent upon the crappiness of the pitch-shifter I=B9m using. Throw in some other effects (bit-shift or sample-rate degradation, synchronized slicing from the EF-303, etc.) and things can get pretty wild. In both these cases, though, I=B9m doing exactly what Per suggested: I=B9m starting from a concept of the end-goal =8B the final effect =8B then working backward to find the best way to implement it on my architecture. That=B9s the best way to use the LP-1. It=B9s a very, very, open, flexible architecture. If you try to use it plug-&-play, you=B9ll get only really the same advantages you listed above: stereo, multiple tracks, and excellent fidelity. It=B9s no wonder quite a few people were very =8Cso what=B9, and gave up on it after a couple of weeks. There=B9s not a lot of shiny eye-candy to be had right out of the box, so you=B9re not as likely to be inspired to go i= n different directions merely by purchasing a new tool. However, if you figure out your end effect then work backward, the LP-1 quietly and deftly allows you to do accomplish many of the new directions you might conceive of in your looping. --m. --B_3376814261_12988448 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me On 1/2/11 1:4= 5 AM, "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Ive only tried the Looperlative once, and I must say in = terms of "what it could do" I couldnt get the owner to explain me = anything that really seems crazily impossibly different and new than the EDP= . Excepting of course the obvious 3 main differences. mono verses stereo, mu= ltiple tracks and audio quality...

You left out a big one: the ability to stack commands in the LP-1.  Us= ing a decent MIDI controller(!), you can put together whole sets of commands= that can be fired off with a single button press — almost like a R= 16;macro’ or simple Mobius script.  

For instance, I put together a command that emulates what I call the ‘= ;Red House’ effect (listen to ‘Two Soldiers’ or ‘The= Red House’ from David Byrne’s “The Catherine Wheel”= to hear what I’m talking about).  With this one, the loop buffer= starts to fill as long as I have the MIDI pedal depressed.  The moment= I let up on the pedal, it immediately begins to loop whatever was in the bu= ffer.  Depress it again, and the previous buffer is immediately erased = and begins filling a second time.  This allows me to tap the pedal quic= kly to capture very short looped snippets — or stutters — of sou= nd.  A slightly longer tap means a slightly longer snippet.  If I = tap several times while playing a line, it almost sounds like realtime granu= lar, as the loop buffer grabs one ‘snapshot’ after another of wh= at I’m playing.

Another one I put together allows me to do time-stretch, in conjunction wit= h an outboard pitch-shift unit on the Auxiliary outs (oh yeah, multiple outp= uts: there’s another feature not mentioned above).  I’ll be= gin recording a loop as normal.  Then I’ve a command that closes/= plays the loop, assigns it to Aux Out 1 (where it’s sent to a pitch sh= ifter set to +1 octave, then routed back into the LP-1), drops to Half-Speed= , and starts a Bounce on the next track.  This results in the recording= of a time-stretched track that is twice the length, but at the same pitch a= s the original.  I can also begin to get Repeater-esque degrade effects= , dependent upon the crappiness of the pitch-shifter I’m using.  = Throw in some other effects (bit-shift or sample-rate degradation, synchroni= zed slicing from the EF-303, etc.) and things can get pretty wild.

In both these cases, though, I’m doing exactly what Per suggested: I&= #8217;m starting from a concept of the end-goal — the final effect = 212; then working backward to find the best way to implement it on my archit= ecture.

That’s the best way to use the LP-1.  It’s a very, very, o= pen, flexible architecture.  If you try to use it plug-&-play, you&= #8217;ll get only really the same advantages you listed above: stereo, multi= ple tracks, and excellent fidelity.  It’s no wonder quite a few p= eople were very ‘so what’, and gave up on it after a couple of w= eeks.  There’s not a lot of shiny eye-candy to be had right out o= f the box, so you’re not as likely to be inspired to go in different d= irections merely by purchasing a new tool.  

However, if you figure out your end effect then work backward, the LP-1 qui= etly and deftly allows you to do accomplish many of the new directions you m= ight conceive of in your looping.

        --m.
 --B_3376814261_12988448-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 03:14:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B29E183457; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D1FED7D.4070607@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 19:14:05 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Per was talking about some of the design functionality that is desired in a looper and Bill responded with some of the LP-1's capabilities. I also wanted to add that another fascinating thing that the Looperlative does which is unique in the hardware world is the fact that you can connect to the Internet through an Ethernet port connecting a computer to the LP-1 to upgrade the instruments software. The LP-1 navigates to the latest software revision out, downloads it and installs it within 30 seconds. If there is a strong consensus amongst users for either a new piece of software or a revision or fix of older software problems, then Bob Amstadt (or Andy Butler) can work on it. Software revisions are free. I don't think that exists anywhere else in the hardware world and even a lot of software developers don't allow for free upgrades (some, like the amazing FL Studio aka Fruity Loops do for life). I've been working on some new loop manipulations that don't exist anywhere so far in software or hardware and there's a strong possibility that they will be a reality at some time in the not too distant future. To me, someone with a lot of live looping experience, but absolutely no knowledge of programming, that is a very, very exciting prospect. A device whose inventor really cares about the user base seem extremely rare in the music biz. This to me is one of the strong selling points of the instrument. And then, to add icing to the cake, the most popular features of the LP-1's development have made their way into the LP-2 Mini Looper which has plans to launch at NAMM 2011. It's a mono looper, not a stereo looper but with serious features added and it's an amazing 1/4 of the price of the LP-1.......only $50 more than my beloved Line 6 DL-4s with four times the functionality plus midi sync and loop storage on board. It's an exciting time coming up for those reasons. sooooooo, LOOP ON EVERYONE and HAPPY NEW YEAR. I look forward to hearing everyone's music this year regardless of what gear they use. Musical Creativity and Mutual Love and Support in this Community is the very most important thing to me, personally! I hope everyone knows this!!!!! yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 03:36:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AD6B183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D1FF2A6.4050901@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 19:36:06 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , "RICK WALKER- 412 Darwin Street (back house)" , "Y2KXloopfest@yahoo.com" Subject: Y2K11 International Live Looping Festival Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi Everyone, So many people have asked me about the fate of the Y2K Looping Festivals series since I have announced I was retiring from producing it actively. I've given this a lot of very hard thought and did not want my decision to negatively impact the looping community. What I've decided to do is to become a mostly hands off Executive Director for the festival for the next couple of years at least and I've assembled a powerful team of 7 or 8 people who will actively run the festival as a committee. Just because I have so much experience with how to do this extremely inexpensively with maximum press exposure, I will be in an advisory capacity to this soon to be hard working team of people but I intend to be as hands off as possible. They will be doing all the work of this festival and I will not. Sooooo, I'm going to advise this group of people (who I'll name in public as soon as the whole team solidifies) to make the festival considerably smaller in this coming year. I'm going to advise them to not book anyone until probably 3 months before the festival (just to cut down on the constant e-mails that occur if they take bookings for the whole year). People who wish to play the festival from outside of the country and who, therefore, have to know as far in advance as possible to make their bookings will be able to apply before the rest of the call for artists go out. Also, due to failing revenue streams since the Recession hit us, we may not be able to provide transportation for foreign artists to and from the Airports as we have in the past. This still remains to be seen and there will be some official announcement about what we've decided to do some time in the next few months. If we don't then we'll make sure to try and help foreign artists to coordinate arrivals so they can carpool to and from the airports in either rental cars or single trip 'airporters'. There is also a strong possibility that there may only be a festival in Santa Cruz to cut down on all the considerable logistics of having additional concerts in other cities. Again, this will reside with the committee who produces the festival, but the first year of the new regime will probably have to be a lot smaller than in past years. So, that's it and I want to ask people to please respect my need for a vacation and patiently wait until the Y2K11 Committee posts officially for the first time. SO PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FESTIVAL! Gosh, was I shouting just then? I was , but I do so in a loving way........... I just really need a break after 10 year of hard work but I truly want this festival to go on because it's been so amazing in the past. okee dokee, May 2011 be a fantastic year for this wonderful looping community. We look forward to seeing as many of you as possible in Santa Cruz in the third week of October. love, rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 03:41:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05A1A183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D1FF3C9.7010207@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 19:40:57 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: VOLUNTEERS: Y2K11 LOOPFESTIVAL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:41:04 +0000 (UTC) If anyone has a strong desire to help out as a volunteer with the Y2K11 Loop Festival in the third week of October in Santa Cruz, please email me off of this list. Just put I WANT TO VOLUNTEER: Y2K11 LOOPFESTIVAL in capital letters in the subject line of your e-mail. It may be a while before someone responds but I will collate the names and give it to the Y2K11 Committee when the time is appropriate. We will need sound mixers, front of house people, website maintainers, transportation people, people to house artists and even people who really want to throw a lot of energy into the festival to join the committee. thanks a lot in advance. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 03:47:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38198183454; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:47:38 +0900 Subject: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) Thread-Index: AcuqL8xrvzmSkm/UTwWD/mGsL9e4eg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3376817259_13203566" Resent-Message-ID: <9HtBAB.A.sm.dV_HNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:47:41 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3376817259_13203566 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 1/2/11 6:36 AM, "Scott Hansen" wrote: > i know i've heard Rick W. sing the praises of this thing, and how he said= he > uses the randomness of it, and i just discovered it after a yr. kind of f= unny. Yep, like the DD-20, this one is a sleeper. There are some very cool thing= s that you can get it to do, with a little advanced thought. Also, it responds really well to MIDI Clock. I=B9ll occasionally have my LP-= 1 send clock (calculated from the first loop) then have the Slicer sync to it so I can record subsequent parts in synchronization with each other. Although the Slicer=B9s internal clock is pretty rock solid too, so that work= s pretty well if I just want to =B3wing it=B2. And of course there=B9s the =B3null plug=B3 trick that you mentioned, which is ho= w I believe Rick is getting a lot of the random effects. As I=B9ve said before, I=B9d swear there=B9s one (and only one) =B3random genius=B2 that Roland/Boss has roaming their R&D. They only give him about a day wit= h any particular product before they whisk him over to the next project. If this one guy ever spins off into his own company, I=B9m gonna buy stock in it= . --m. --B_3376817259_13203566 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer)= On 1/2/11 6:3= 6 AM, "Scott Hansen" <evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:

i know i've heard Rick W. sing the praises of this thing= , and how he said he uses the randomness of it, and i just discovered it aft= er a yr. kind of funny.

Yep, like the DD-20, this one is a sleeper.  There are some very cool = things that you can get it to do, with a little advanced thought.  

Also, it responds really well to MIDI Clock.  I’ll occasionally = have my LP-1 send clock (calculated from the first loop) then have the Slice= r sync to it so I can record subsequent parts in synchronization with each o= ther.  Although the Slicer’s internal clock is pretty rock solid = too, so that works pretty well if I just want to “wing it”.

And of course there’s the “null plug“ trick that you ment= ioned, which is how I believe Rick is getting a lot of the random effects.
As I’ve said before, I’d swear there’s one (and only one)= “random genius” that Roland/Boss has roaming their R&D. &nb= sp;They only give him about a day with any particular product before they wh= isk him over to the next project.  If this one guy ever spins off into = his own company, I’m gonna buy stock in it.

        --m.
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boundary=20cf3054a56fa6ef6f0498d4ef9b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:50:29 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a56fa6ef6f0498d4ef9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Good news Rick... 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On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at = 10:36 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

--20cf3054a56fa6ef6f0498d4ef9b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 05:32:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFE38183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 05:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-01_01:2010-12-31,2011-01-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101010103 Subject: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Kenn Lowy In-reply-to: <20110102025745.D3ECE18344A@hemlock.violacea.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 00:32:08 -0500 Message-id: <714CAD76-E3CB-4B75-94C1-193AA7C42AD8@me.com> References: <20110102025745.D3ECE18344A@hemlock.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 05:32:17 +0000 (UTC) I'd like to know how the EDP can record 8 separate tracks (some in sync, some not). Then fade them, not all at once. Stop one or two and reverse another. I have both, and for anyone to write that the EDP can do just about everything the looperlative can do is just wrong. But maybe I just don't know how to do that on the EDP. Seriously, how would anyone do those things? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 05:44:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6678F183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 05:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2010A8.7080804@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 21:44:08 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me References: <4D1F9B2F.9050800@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D1F9B2F.9050800@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050205070005020904010000" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 05:44:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050205070005020904010000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > To be fair, I think Mark made a very valid point. > The EDP comes with a seven button interface "out of the box" > which can do just as many tricks as a carefully programmed LP1. > > Yes, with the LP1 it's easy to set > up a banks worth of buttons with a basic midi controller. > What isn't easy is to pick a bank of buttons that will more or less do > everything a particular user would want to do. > Apart from that, they're just such *very* different beasts. > Being familiar with one is bound to make the other seem awkward, > and to transfer from either one to the other would mean giving up a lot. > respectfully andy butler Very good point and thanks to Mark for making that distinction. The only thing I would add to it is that for a technical reason, I lost functionality in my FCB 1010 before going to NAMM and had to borrow one from somebody and program it at the damned show in order to be able to demo the LP-1. Honest to goodness, I programmed four very sophisticated banks on my FCB in 5 minutes and was up and running. You hit a button, select midi/button, push enter and it says......."push a button" (on your foot controller). You push a button, scroll the menu through all the options (only a couple of which need explanation), hit 'enter' and that's it............no worrying about midi cc message or bank number. By contrast, it took me a long time to understand the EDP. For some reason it just wasn't intuititive to me in the way the LP-1 is and I almost gave up on it at one point before doubling my efforts, mercilessly bugging Andre LaFosse, Matthias Grob, Kim Flint and Andy Butler for free advice.........I'm glad I did. It's a fantastic instrument. Matthias is going to hit a grand slam when he releases his new ultra modern/multiple track/ hi fidelity version sometime, hopefully, this year. I will own one in a heartbeat. rick walker --------------050205070005020904010000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To be fair, I think Mark made a very valid point.
The EDP comes with a seven button interface "out of the box"
which can do just as many tricks as a carefully programmed  LP1.

Yes, with the LP1 it's easy to set
up a banks worth of buttons with a basic midi controller.
What isn't easy is to pick a bank of buttons that will more or less do everything a particular user would want to do.
Apart from that, they're just such *very* different beasts.
Being familiar with one is bound to make the other seem awkward,
and to transfer from either one to the other would mean giving up a lot.
respectfully andy butler

Very good point and thanks to Mark for making that distinction.

The only thing I would add to it is that for a technical reason,  I lost functionality in my
FCB 1010 before going to NAMM and had to borrow one from somebody and program
it at the damned show in order to be able to demo the LP-1.

Honest to goodness,   I programmed four very sophisticated banks on my FCB in
5 minutes and was up and running.

You hit a button,   select midi/button,   push enter
and it says......."push a button" (on your foot controller).
You push a button,   scroll the menu through all the options (only a couple of which need
explanation), hit 'enter'  and that's it............no worrying about midi cc message or bank number.

By contrast, it took me a long time to understand the EDP.   For some reason it just wasn't
intuititive to me in the way the LP-1 is and I almost gave up on it at one point before
doubling my efforts,  mercilessly bugging Andre LaFosse, Matthias Grob, Kim Flint and Andy Butler
for free advice.........I'm glad I did.  It's a fantastic instrument.

Matthias is going to hit a grand slam when he releases his new ultra modern/multiple track/
hi fidelity version  sometime, hopefully, this year.

I will own one in a heartbeat.

rick walker

--------------050205070005020904010000-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 05:47:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC82C18344B; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 05:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D201152.3010404@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 21:46:58 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenn Lowy CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me References: <9F9CA772-E36F-41A8-B1FC-A6C66E8BE395@me.com> In-Reply-To: <9F9CA772-E36F-41A8-B1FC-A6C66E8BE395@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 05:47:06 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kenn Lowy wrote: > You'll want both! The iPad is fast becoming a great musical tool. Of course there is that money issue of what you CAN buy vs. what you want to buy. and when Hans Lindauer releases his amazing OSC/midi converter, the Missing Link, you'll want to use both together!!!!!! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 06:14:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4215E183451; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 06:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <714CAD76-E3CB-4B75-94C1-193AA7C42AD8@me.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:14:05 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4542FC0B-730B-46B9-AE0F-8F32DD4CED49@grubmah.com> References: <20110102025745.D3ECE18344A@hemlock.violacea.com> <714CAD76-E3CB-4B75-94C1-193AA7C42AD8@me.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 06:14:08 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 1, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Kenn Lowy wrote: > I'd like to know how the EDP can record 8 separate tracks (some in = sync, some not). Then fade them, not all at once. Stop one or two and = reverse another. I have both, and for anyone to write that the EDP can = do just about everything the looperlative can do is just wrong. >=20 > But maybe I just don't know how to do that on the EDP. Seriously, how = would anyone do those things? You wouldn't and if you go back and look at my post and the posts from = people like Andy Butler, you will see that we all acknowledge that the = Looperlative does a lot of things the EDP does not. My point and I think Andy backed me up on this is that the EDP supports = a mode of working -- and supports it out of the box as opposed to after = careful programming and choices about what features to use how -- that = happens to fit well with how some people want to work when looping. For = example, the EDP will allow one to insert a cycle into the middle of a = loop. I don't use this feature, but some people do and I see nothing = equivalent mentioned in the EDP manual. This is part of the whole linear = loop manipulation v multi-track thing. I gather Dustbunnies manages to get SUS-style operations on the LP-1, = but it seems to depend on having a "decent" (his words) MIDI controller = since it would seem to depend on having a controller that will send note = on or program change messages on pedal release. That's cool, but the EDP = is loaded with SUS-style and other long-press based behaviors and works = with a range of controllers. (It could be that I've just been mislead by = the LP-1 manual's references to pressing as opposed to releasing buttons = when programming MIDI controllers.) So, no one is dissing the Looperlative on this thread. It's a marvelous = stereo, multi-track looper with a lot of programming depth available = given the right controller to complement it. But the EDP offers more = features and more readily accessible features if you are interested in = manipulating a single loop in what seems to have been dubbed a "linear" = mode. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 06:24:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F10B183454; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 06:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 15:23:58 +0900 Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Thread-Index: AcuqL9T7iM08L/wsQZewgxz3RORPoAAFc5Za In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3376826644_13700294" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 06:24:07 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3376826644_13700294 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Both, actually!!! :) The wife is the one who found the Synthstation for me, all on her own. And she generally glazes over when I start babbling about things tech, even. She=B9s got a fantastic record for finding great gifts! And, no, I ain=B9t sharing her. Get yer own. ;) --m. On 1/2/11 12:46 PM, "Andy Owens" wrote: > The wife is fantastic, or the ipad? >=20 > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! >=20 >=20 > On Jan 1, 2011, at 8:57 PM, "Dustbunnies" wrote: >=20 >> On 1/2/11 3:29 AM, "todd reynolds" wrote: >>=20 >>> Of course, now it's making me wanna buy a looperlative instead of an iP= ad, >>> but this is my own internal spiritual struggle, lol. >>=20 >> I have a Looperlative, and the wife has an iPad. They=B9re both fantastic= , so >> whichever you decide I=B9m sure you=B9ll love it. :) >>=20 >> --m. >>=20 --B_3376826644_13700294 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Both, actuall= y!!!  :)

The wife is the one who found the Synthstation for me, all on her own. &nbs= p;And she generally glazes over when I start babbling about things tech, eve= n.  She’s got a fantastic record for finding great gifts!

And, no, I ain’t sharing her.  Get yer own.  ;)

        --m.


On 1/2/11 12:46 PM, "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com> wr= ote:

The wife is fantastic, or the ipad?

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 1, 2011, at 8:57 PM, "Dustbunnies" <mech@m3ch.net> w= rote:

On 1/2/11 3:29 AM, "todd reynolds" <toddrey= n@gmail.com> wrote:

Of course, now it's making me wanna buy a looperlative i= nstead of an iPad, but this is my own internal spiritual struggle, lol.

I have a Looperlative, and the wife has an iPad.  They’re both f= antastic, so whichever you decide I’m sure you’ll love it.  = ;:)

        --m.

--B_3376826644_13700294-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 06:44:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E9F418344A; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 06:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4500--36607389 Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:44:48 -0800 In-Reply-To: <4D2010A8.7080804@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D1F9B2F.9050800@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2010A8.7080804@cruzio.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 06:44:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4500--36607389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 1, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > The only thing I would add to it is that for a technical reason, I = lost functionality in my=20 > FCB 1010 before going to NAMM and had to borrow one from somebody and = program=20 > it at the damned show in order to be able to demo the LP-1. >=20 > Honest to goodness, I programmed four very sophisticated banks on my = FCB in=20 > 5 minutes and was up and running. >=20 > You hit a button, select midi/button, push enter=20 > and it says......."push a button" (on your foot controller). > You push a button, scroll the menu through all the options (only a = couple of which need=20 > explanation), hit 'enter' and that's it............no worrying about = midi cc message or bank number. I agree that it's easy to enter programs on the LP-1. But how long did = it take you to figure out what functionality should be in those banks of = programs? Again, not dissing the LP-1. Just pointing out that there's ease of = programming and then there's ease of figuring out what to program. The EDP is programmable, but I don't think it was really intended that = most users would need to program it. Most users can probably just use = the default Loop mode and be fine. If that's not enough, they can play = with picking alternative modes or reconfiguring a few buttons along = design axes that again have been relatively carefully chosen. If you are = worrying about how to write MIDI programs to exploit the extra = functionality on the EDP, you are well outside the apparent sweet spot = in its design. The Looperlative on the other hand does a lot of cool stuff, but comes = largely with the message that you need to go figure out what cool stuff = you want exposed in what combinations and that not only can you set up a = controller to do so but that you have to. If you want that level of = customization, the Looperlative is much better than the EDP, but it = expects you to program it. The Looperlative is like a highly-flexible = synth that ships with almost no presets. Mark P.S. Semi on point: http://releasecandidateone.com/236:crotchety_old_power_users --Apple-Mail-4500--36607389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
The only = thing I would add to it is that for a technical reason,  I lost = functionality in my 
FCB 1010 before going = to NAMM and had to borrow one from somebody and program 
it at the damned show = in order to be able to demo the LP-1.

Honest to = goodness,   I programmed four very sophisticated banks on my = FCB in 
5 minutes = and was up and running.

You hit a button,   select = midi/button,   push enter 
and it says......."push = a button" (on your foot controller).
You push a button,   = scroll the menu through all the options (only a couple of which = need 
explanation), = hit 'enter'  and that's it............no worrying about midi cc = message or bank number.

I agree = that it's easy to enter programs on the LP-1. But how long did it take = you to figure out what functionality should be in those banks of = programs?

Again, not dissing the LP-1. Just = pointing out that there's ease of programming and then there's ease of = figuring out what to program.

The EDP is = programmable, but I don't think it was really intended that most users = would need to program it. Most users can probably just use the default = Loop mode and be fine. If that's not enough, they can play with picking = alternative modes or reconfiguring a few buttons along design axes that = again have been relatively carefully chosen. If you are worrying about = how to write MIDI programs to exploit the extra functionality on the = EDP, you are well outside the apparent sweet spot in its = design.

The Looperlative on the other hand does = a lot of cool stuff, but comes largely with the message that you need to = go figure out what cool stuff you want exposed in what combinations and = that not only can you set up a controller to do so but that you have to. = If you want that level of customization, the Looperlative is much better = than the EDP, but it expects you to program it. The Looperlative is like = a highly-flexible synth that ships with almost no = presets.

Mark

P.S. = Semi on point:

= --Apple-Mail-4500--36607389-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 07:24:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1C75183454; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 07:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:24:11 +0900 Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: The EDP and the Looperlative Thread-Index: AcuqTgzazroEYgX3T3Cu/I0jvfzrqw== In-Reply-To: <4542FC0B-730B-46B9-AE0F-8F32DD4CED49@grubmah.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1qDW4D.A.rBG.jgCINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 07:24:20 +0000 (UTC) On 1/2/11 3:14 PM, "Mark Hamburg" wrote: > On Jan 1, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Kenn Lowy wrote: > >> But maybe I just don't know how to do that on the EDP. Seriously, how would >> anyone do those things? > > You wouldn't and if you go back and look at my post and the posts from people > like Andy Butler, you will see that we all acknowledge that the Looperlative > does a lot of things the EDP does not. Actually, I did realize that you were not making that sort of assertion. I was instead responding to Mark's comment that he could only see three main differences between the EDP and LP-1. Ken may be responding to the same. I think you yourself have been rather clear on the fact that you merely prefer the working modes on the EDP. > I gather Dustbunnies manages to get SUS-style operations on the LP-1, but it > seems to depend on having a "decent" (his words) MIDI controller since it > would seem to depend on having a controller that will send note on or program > change messages on pedal release. 100% on target. Although it would be possible to program that same functionality on any MIDI controller by using two pedals (one for "clear/record" and a second for "close and loop"). It would just take a bit more tap-dancing than would probably be comfortable to achieve the effect I'm after). FWIW, there are quite a few controllers out there that can support this, IIRC. I'm using the Roland FC-300 myself, which works quite well. Of course, the Gordius is the top-line pedal at the moment (at least until the Softstep gets all its kinks worked out). In the past I've used the Digitech PMC-10, and even firing off PC macros with my Peavey PC1600x. I don't remember: will the FCB-1010 allow for sending a command on pedal release? I think that if there's any confusion out there, it's with the marketing materials. The LP-1 is advertised that you can get up and running with the most basic of controllers, which is the truth. That'll get you to all the basic functions. However, a quick scan of the forums will reveal that a better MIDI controller pedal will allow you to get more out of the LP-1. And, of course, we're still lobbying Bob for integrating some of these capabilities into the base functionality of the unit. For instance, I believe the Gordius might allow for the timing of commands (synced to MIDI Clock), so that you could have, for instance, a loop play to its end, then reverse itself, then drop to half-speed when it gets back to the beginning, then yaddayaddayadda. I've been annoying Bob with that as a feature request ("Command Cue" & Logic functions, see: http://www.looperlative.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=593#p4094 on the Looperlative board) for quite a while now. > That's cool, but the EDP is loaded with > SUS-style and other long-press based behaviors and works with a range of > controllers. Eh? Waitasec, now I'm a bit confused. You can do the EDP "long press" functions with a standard MIDI pedal? How the devil are they implementing that?!? --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 07:39:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D51BB183456; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 07:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 23:39:11 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0EEE0B9E-C993-4136-A73B-653FE7825222@grubmah.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <43Q-CC.A.BVG.juCINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 07:39:16 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 1, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Dustbunnies wrote: >> That's cool, but the EDP is loaded with >> SUS-style and other long-press based behaviors and works with a range = of >> controllers.=20 >=20 > Eh? Waitasec, now I'm a bit confused. You can do the EDP "long = press" > functions with a standard MIDI pedal? How the devil are they = implementing > that?!? It needs a pedal that will send note on and note off or that will send = controller to max and controller to min. So, it won't work with = controllers that only send program changes, but if the controller will = send note information or send pedals as non-latching continuous = controllers, the EDP is built to recognize the pedal release. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 08:03:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8263183451; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Bg/py5i4u7mt/FQoKMnoukE04teWYhOl/0ikF1zRxbE=; b=PqV8ycF3wPKVRAP8/0Xi4REtnIgl6e8GW8H/2j5G9QFzRXygm2K6mSqsSKZuIBov1J Dkkq79owXh6Z5KIT0yh4MmlGJqVfTObIGazw8tpSUv61ThVWP6uYtPsfyyuLysrgivVx hkYAryg9M5LWTNWT/auyASmok4iemf33oTLJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DxcVdcPf/uj104fCpFKGFTreezkppWvuAUVS0P4qhWGLpxO4daFLkFPTBwQnudrAks TvpIvFCpo9fuSDinTUiuiN5/CEYvrrrkwpT0qU2ACCYQ9qYsut1C+p3GcnhuU/aviLVn uBck8d3cBO2XYrTXELZbAV1Ca9PVuFM3p720c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 00:03:43 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: The Sly Stone of Acoustic looped guitar (was OT: Musical discoveries of 2010) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325574d82663ba60498d879a4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:03:45 +0000 (UTC) --000325574d82663ba60498d879a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The music that blew my mind in 2010 was Jarle Bernhoft from Norway. I just learned of him a few days ago on the Zonemobius mailing list. He channels the grooves of Sly Stone, right down to the mohawk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAnC7RTAMok The track "On Time" is best looping I've heard since Fro Diddly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJfnvna4kwI The thing about iTunes is that I can go back and see what music I've actually been listening to this past year. I went through my favorites, and surprisingly to me, only three others were released in 2010, and two of them are hip hop recordings. As a rule I don't listen to rap. I listened to Kurtis Blow back in the day, but I'd given up on rap years ago. So anyway, hear are my other top albums of 2010, all three of them: - Kendrick Lamar EP, distributed as a free download - "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" by Kanye West - Azar Lawrence "Mystic Journey" I did discover a lot of music this past year that I've loved, it's just much of it was recorded earlier, some of it decades ago: - The long lost second ECM album "Spanish Bitch" by Mal Waldron (but never officially acknowledged by ECM) This one is highly recommended!http://orgyinrhythm.blogspot.com/2010/09/mal-waldron-spanish-bitch.html - Richard Pinhaus and Merzbow "Keio Line" (Somebody on this list pointed out this gem. Metal/Crystal came out in 2010 but I haven't heard it yet) - Ryuichi Sakamoto "Chasm" - Two Banks of Four "Junkyard Dogs" - The Polish Jazz recycling electronica group *Skalpel* - The gamelan like electronica of *Bonobo* - Amon Tobin "Chomp Samba" - Billy Wooten "Lost Tapes" - Sadao Watanabe at the Montreux Jazz Festival - Robert Quine/Jody Harris "Escape" - Frank Strazzeri's awesome fender rhodes playing on "Cloudburst" on his "After the Rain" album - Ras Michael & the Sons of Negus "Dadawah -- Peace and Love" - Steve Winwood "About Time" - Sonny Sharrock "Dance with me Montana" - And probably the musical discovery that has had the most impact on me, the guitarist *Tisziji Munoz* Best wishes for the new year! -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --000325574d82663ba60498d879a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The music that blew my mind in 2010 was Jarle Bernhoft from Norway. I just = learned of him a few days ago on the Zonemobius mailing list. He channels t= he grooves of Sly Stone, right down to the mohawk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGAnC7R= TAMok

The track "On Time" is best looping I've heard since Fro = Diddly:
http://= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEJfnvna4kwI

The thing about iTunes is = that I can go back and see what music I've actually been listening to t= his past year. I went through my favorites, and surprisingly to me, only th= ree others were released in 2010, and two of them are hip hop recordings. A= s a rule I don't listen to rap. I listened to Kurtis Blow back in the d= ay, but I'd given up on rap years ago. So anyway, hear are my other top= albums of 2010, all three of them:

  • Kendrick Lamar EP, distributed as a free download
  • "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" by Kanye West
  • Azar La= wrence "Mystic Journey"

I did discover a lot of musi= c this past year that I've loved, it's just much of it was recorded= earlier, some of it decades ago:

  • The long lost second ECM album "Spanish Bitch" by Mal= Waldron (but never officially acknowledged by ECM) This one is highly reco= mmended! http://orgyinrhythm.blogspot.com/2010/0= 9/mal-waldron-spanish-bitch.html
  • Richard Pinhaus and Merzbow "Keio Line" (Somebody on this lis= t pointed out this gem. Metal/Crystal came out in 2010 but I haven't he= ard it yet)
  • Ryuichi Sakamoto "Chasm"
  • Two Banks of= Four "Junkyard Dogs"
  • The Polish Jazz recycling electronica group Skalpel
    • The gamelan like electronica of Bonobo
  • Amon Tobin "= ;Chomp Samba"
  • Billy Wooten "Lost Tapes"
  • Sadao Watanabe at the Montreux Jazz Festival
  • Robert Quine/Jody Harr= is "Escape"
  • Frank Strazzeri's awesome fender rhod= es playing on "Cloudburst" on his "After the Rain" albu= m
  • Ras Michael & the Sons of Negus "Dadawah -- Peace and Love&quo= t;
  • Steve Winwood "About Time"
  • Sonny Sharrock &quo= t;Dance with me Montana"
  • And probably the musical discover= y that has had the most impact on me, the guitarist Tisziji Munoz
Best wishes for the new year!
--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot= ] com/artsimon
--000325574d82663ba60498d879a4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 08:06:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 267CB183451; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=YW9shqc1P3Oxk8MZvfylEBzIN7I+I9xyjyAK/W9fC2U=; b=mR0tVhDapn+EJ+S0W58m49Q39Ctc9T+3GYmCRZQg+dLozHTcozY149TgyzJlzsb22T ud1RTNPQPa8wUhEs7I+GJX5c2WY0LlH51wZx7WE+I3npxMBIkABbfzsEUw8tWi55Fn6W yVtlx6RHp3rAOpCAxmbHqfrtTOEfCwipmnAgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Iy8lY5Zahe3vZG4dPUy210T1HZAr4G5FCfj0Al85Es4KyNqfEK12LIs3Zk9zMcAgS6 NkfjuNqH5cOBernmd7kTqtNhTIbgFUHdqyMAfNb9IbdOHs+sZgqQHePd5EIkv0UIt3jP sRwK+oescys0asBBzJdlqTftlpp8KvYZVSkwQ= References: <240EA823-F746-4BDA-9102-821765B79CBC@googlemail.com> <-6764800028453888708@unknownmsgid> <4D1F63CD.1030602@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:06:18 +0100 Message-ID: <-3760102056665956522@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e83e659b30e0498d88133 Resent-Message-ID: <2J9c2C.A.m0G.nHDINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:05:59 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e83e659b30e0498d88133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Simply that my keyboard doesn't do it! But it's just not the functionality I'm after. On a good arp you can build on your arp by holding some notes and adding others. M Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 2 Jan 2011, at 01:49, Simeon Harris wrote: This might sound silly, but what about a simple latching hold pedal? Sent from my iPod On 1 Jan 2011, at 17:31, mark francombe wrote: no need Andy.. I bought it... this is as a result of playing for a bit... On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:26 PM, andy butler < akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > you can always download the demo again, > I did that for several months 'till > one time they hadn't put the latest up quick enough. > > andy > > > mark francombe wrote: > >> that all swings it really dont it... have to dive into Bidule again.. >> wheres the hot visa card..? >> >> M >> > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e83e659b30e0498d88133 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Simply that my keyboard doesn't do= it! But it's just not the functionality I'm after. On a good arp y= ou can build on your arp by holding some notes and adding others.=A0
<= div>
M

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

= On 2 Jan 2011, at 01:49, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

This might sound silly, but = what about a simple latching hold pedal?

Sent from my iPod

On 1 Jan 2011, at 17:31, mark francombe <mark@markfrancomb= e.com> wrote:

no need Andy.. I bought= it... this is as a result of playing for a bit...

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:26 PM, andy butler <= ;akbutler@tiscali.co= .uk> wrote:
you can always do= wnload the demo again,
I did that for several months 'till
one time they hadn't put the latest up quick enough.

andy


mark francombe wrote:
that all swings it really dont it... have to dive into Bidule again.. where= s the hot visa card..?

M




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tw= itter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user82509= 4
http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e83e659b30e0498d88133-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 08:34:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DA9B183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=IIySKINR8V/3KYwdCe0HDwGbuV53AyhDuLHE91BqFd0=; b=NND5fM/T7ZNTuCs2M4bCTyZIjg2p+ro0eBO7FOTTfQnMZJzq5txQECHh9FLms29qh5 FkHkSqaAASBorUkvFYaqpgNZY1Z6E32YXpUik43CpdnyfCmyvCD7yNDqCie3dm7lpWIN naHS0xAOe5ZvFaE01Fkm2vLBoF7gFKHfhORgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=FLar3Yygq+bf4vM2IPM9NjcjnqKgP3k6nEVGGai6HKTjaL/gibVsSUEd8jpSPG81ya 6wlBhZBSOzS5OqfrR8wZyNAgSuzwyLcPRMGBhqYzk9yLqlz8hZ53EQe1Fc89aDPQb9Al A3U9lRbfZKTf/mUdROmfYSD0i5355XyUx6css= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:34:55 +0100 Message-ID: <-2631818893186221932@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a67cc5fc00498d8e796 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:34:37 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a67cc5fc00498d8e796 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 2 Jan 2011, at 03:57, Dustbunnies wrote: On 1/2/11 1:45 AM, "mark francombe" wrote: Ive only tried the Looperlative once, and I must say in terms of "what it could do" I couldnt get the owner to explain me anything that really seems crazily impossibly different and new than the EDP. Excepting of course the obvious 3 main differences. mono verses stereo, multiple tracks and audio quality... You left out a big one: the ability to stack commands in the LP-1. Using a decent MIDI controller(!), you can put together whole sets of commands that can be fired off with a single button press =97 almost like a =91macro=92 o= r simple Mobius script. Many times I have talked about how I do this on the EDP. I stack commands together using an external drum machine. For instance, I put together a command that emulates what I call the =91Red House=92 effect (listen to =91Two Soldiers=92 or =91The Red House=92 from D= avid Byrne=92s =93The Catherine Wheel=94 to hear what I=92m talking about). Wit= h this one, the loop buffer starts to fill as long as I have the MIDI pedal depressed. The moment I let up on the pedal, it immediately begins to loop whatever was in the buffer. Depress it again, and the previous buffer is immediately erased and begins filling a second time. This allows me to tap the pedal quickly to capture very short looped snippets =97 or stutters =97= of sound. A slightly longer tap means a slightly longer snippet. If I tap several times while playing a line, it almost sounds like realtime granular= , as the loop buffer grabs one =91snapshot=92 after another of what I=92m pla= ying. This is called an unfounded multiple with sustain action in an EDP... I would say that it's one of the edps defining features... Another one I put together allows me to do time-stretch, in conjunction wit= h an outboard pitch-shift unit on the Auxiliary outs (oh yeah, multiple outputs: there=92s another feature not mentioned above). I=92ll begin reco= rding a loop as normal. Then I=92ve a command that closes/plays the loop, assign= s it to Aux Out 1 (where it=92s sent to a pitch shifter set to +1 octave, the= n routed back into the LP-1), drops to Half-Speed, and starts a Bounce on the next track. This results in the recording of a time-stretched track that i= s twice the length, but at the same pitch as the original. I can also begin to get Repeater-esque degrade effects, dependent upon the crappiness of the pitch-shifter I=92m using. Throw in some other effects (bit-shift or sample-rate degradation, synchronized slicing from the EF-303, etc.) and things can get pretty wild. This sounds very cool. But I must say I've done this on the EDP too, by having a second EDP however.. And of course THEN you are getting into the price if the LP1... In both these cases, though, I=92m doing exactly what Per suggested: I=92m starting from a concept of the end-goal =97 the final effect =97 then worki= ng backward to find the best way to implement it on my architecture. Yes.. well.... beg my pardon but I think we all do that, and we are all restricted by our technology.... Do a loop window on an LP1 please... That=92s the best way to use the LP-1. It=92s a very, very, open, flexible architecture. If you try to use it plug-&-play, you=92ll get only really t= he same advantages you listed above: stereo, multiple tracks, and excellent fidelity. It=92s no wonder quite a few people were very =91so what=92, and= gave up on it after a couple of weeks. There=92s not a lot of shiny eye-candy t= o be had right out of the box, so you=92re not as likely to be inspired to go= in different directions merely by purchasing a new tool. I'm sure that's the case with the only time I was demonstrated and had a go on an LP1, I dont really think the guy knew what it could do, that suggests to me that it's NOT all easy peasy out of the box... Like the EDP it takes some work, and I think all loopers are like this. Some will attract a type of looping musician. EDP will attract the Single musician creating a linear, but glitchy morph music, or new age soundscapy musicians creating frippy stuff. Lp1 has much if that functionality, not all, but has LOADS extra, that make= s it great for more multi instrumentalists, and songs, some thing that EDP is not good at. However, if you figure out your end effect then work backward, the LP-1 quietly and deftly allows you to do accomplish many of the new directions you might conceive of in your looping. --m. EDP did this to me, actually changed my life completely, ok.. Maybe nit too quietly! But it made me think about my music in a different way, I have never played the same since. One of the reading for this arm-wrestling us that the edp is not just a looper... Its a religeon... M --20cf30549a67cc5fc00498d8e796 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Sent from my (advertisement re= moved)

On 2 Jan 2011, at 03:57, Dustbunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

On 1/2/= 11 1:45 AM, "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Ive only tried the Looperlative once, and I must = say in terms of "what it could do" I couldnt get the owner to exp= lain me anything that really seems crazily impossibly different and new tha= n the EDP. Excepting of course the obvious 3 main differences. mono verses = stereo, multiple tracks and audio quality...

You left out a big one: the ability to stack commands in the LP-1. =A0Using= a decent MIDI controller(!), you can put together whole sets of commands t= hat can be fired off with a single button press =97 almost like a =91macro= =92 or simple Mobius script. =A0

Many times I have talked a= bout how I do this on the EDP. I stack commands together using an external = drum machine.



For instance, I put together a command that emulates what I call the =91Red= House=92 effect (listen to =91Two Soldiers=92 or =91The Red House=92 from = David Byrne=92s =93The Catherine Wheel=94 to hear what I=92m talking about)= . =A0With this one, the loop buffer starts to fill as long as I have the MI= DI pedal depressed. =A0The moment I let up on the pedal, it immediately beg= ins to loop whatever was in the buffer. =A0Depress it again, and the previo= us buffer is immediately erased and begins filling a second time. =A0This a= llows me to tap the pedal quickly to capture very short looped snippets =97= or stutters =97 of sound. =A0A slightly longer tap means a slightly longer= snippet. =A0If I tap several times while playing a line, it almost sounds = like realtime granular, as the loop buffer grabs one =91snapshot=92 after a= nother of what I=92m playing.


This = is called an unfounded multiple with sustain action in an EDP... I would sa= y that it's one of the edps defining features...=A0

Another one I put together allows me to do time-stretch, in conjunction wit= h an outboard pitch-shift unit on the Auxiliary outs (oh yeah, multiple out= puts: there=92s another feature not mentioned above). =A0I=92ll begin recor= ding a loop as normal. =A0Then I=92ve a command that closes/plays the loop,= assigns it to Aux Out 1 (where it=92s sent to a pitch shifter set to +1 oc= tave, then routed back into the LP-1), drops to Half-Speed, and starts a Bo= unce on the next track. =A0This results in the recording of a time-stretche= d track that is twice the length, but at the same pitch as the original. = =A0I can also begin to get Repeater-esque degrade effects, dependent upon t= he crappiness of the pitch-shifter I=92m using. =A0Throw in some other effe= cts (bit-shift or sample-rate degradation, synchronized slicing from the EF= -303, etc.) and things can get pretty wild.

This sounds very cool. But I mu= st say I've done this on the EDP too, by having a second EDP however.. = And of course THEN you are getting into the price if the LP1...=A0

In both these cases, though, I=92m doing exactly what Per suggested: I=92m = starting from a concept of the end-goal =97 the final effect =97 then worki= ng backward to find the best way to implement it on my architecture.


Yes.. well.... b= eg my pardon but I think we all do that, and we are all restricted by our t= echnology.... Do a loop window on an LP1 please...

That=92s the best way to use the LP-1. =A0It=92s a very, very, open, flexib= le architecture. =A0If you try to use it plug-&-play, you=92ll get only= really the same advantages you listed above: stereo, multiple tracks, and = excellent fidelity. =A0It=92s no wonder quite a few people were very =91so = what=92, and gave up on it after a couple of weeks. =A0There=92s not a lot = of shiny eye-candy to be had right out of the box, so you=92re not as likel= y to be inspired to go in different directions merely by purchasing a new t= ool. =A0


=
I'm sure that's the case with the only time I was demonst= rated and had a go on an LP1, I dont really think the guy knew what it coul= d do, that suggests to me that it's NOT all easy peasy out of the box..= . Like the EDP it takes some work, and I think all loopers are like this. S= ome will attract a type of looping musician.=A0
EDP will attract the Single musician creating a linear, but glitchy mo= rph music, or new age soundscapy musicians creating frippy stuff.

Lp1 has much if that functionality, not all, but has LOADS = extra, that makes it great for more multi instrumentalists, and songs, some= thing that EDP is not good at.


However, if you figure out your end effect then work backward, the LP-1 qui= etly and deftly allows you to do accomplish many of the new directions you = might conceive of in your looping.

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0--m.


EDP did this to me, actual= ly changed my life completely, ok.. Maybe nit too quietly! But it made me t= hink about my music in a different way, I have never played the same since.= =A0

One of the reading for this arm-wrestling us that the e= dp is not just a looper... Its a religeon...

M --20cf30549a67cc5fc00498d8e796-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 08:48:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4921183456; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5kbSNo4v2tiZ9Hv9ebSVoqusZYGfGVEjtggf2XacPCk=; b=hbddYPzpn3xrzrBrImJMiLbpZSEdE++P0NIdE1kvtZY9ZKY5gQ/XKsHCDA1kBYO6rE 9qTutJoh1bebP2uzLzsXPycP+oVYvq/9ika8UngnVEPWMVFYfFywLTNNM8lkAJ7RQo/W JPATQQDjqcygNNpkPVkdgX0yg4TouDwpcvbE8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GlYlSWF2nPIhMg8t1erNxM/ZePme2unHTHA3cNHi3/a/4Yfnai8BKK0mmGBhcWEgBM lEO8uBEnD8Fe55KIGZacZDyJbcw7S+VbkCpiGI5CJnC/HlnaiCxNPr+8Jl5cJ8YZJeYm zyrewodLG+JfjxJKKdHdoBm7FZh+4WZxZN4Yo= References: <20110102025745.D3ECE18344A@hemlock.violacea.com> <714CAD76-E3CB-4B75-94C1-193AA7C42AD8@me.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <714CAD76-E3CB-4B75-94C1-193AA7C42AD8@me.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:48:18 +0100 Message-ID: <5856941965517507186@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:48:05 +0000 (UTC) The key thing is "seperate". . It can do all this, but it wnt be seperate tracks. It will Sound the same , (a bit hissyer perhaps) Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 2 Jan 2011, at 06:32, Kenn Lowy wrote: > I'd like to know how the EDP can record 8 separate tracks (some in sync, = some not). Then fade them, not all at once. Stop one or two and reverse ano= ther. I have both, and for anyone to write that the EDP can do just about e= verything the looperlative can do is just wrong. > > But maybe I just don't know how to do that on the EDP. Seriously, how wou= ld anyone do those things? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 09:03:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 313D1183451; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D203F40.3000009@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 01:02:56 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dustbunnies CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070909050707090005050805" Resent-Message-ID: <1qnfD.A.n-H.I9DINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:03:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070909050707090005050805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Duke, Would you have the time to record a couple of examples of these creative techniques you've come up with and post them so we can read them and here them simultaneously? If you are really busy, no worries, but these are really cool creative ways to use the LP-1 that I've not stumbled on or thought of and I'd love to learn them. Thanks for an inspired post! Happy New Years, rick walker On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: > > You left out a big one: the ability to stack commands in the LP-1. > Using a decent MIDI controller(!), you can put together whole sets of > commands that can be fired off with a single button press --- almost > like a 'macro' or simple Mobius script. > > For instance, I put together a command that emulates what I call the > 'Red House' effect (listen to 'Two Soldiers' or 'The Red House' from > David Byrne's "The Catherine Wheel" to hear what I'm talking about). > With this one, the loop buffer starts to fill as long as I have the > MIDI pedal depressed. The moment I let up on the pedal, it > immediately begins to loop whatever was in the buffer. Depress it > again, and the previous buffer is immediately erased and begins > filling a second time. This allows me to tap the pedal quickly to > capture very short looped snippets --- or stutters --- of sound. A > slightly longer tap means a slightly longer snippet. If I tap several > times while playing a line, it almost sounds like realtime granular, > as the loop buffer grabs one 'snapshot' after another of what I'm playing. > > Another one I put together allows me to do time-stretch, in > conjunction with an outboard pitch-shift unit on the Auxiliary outs > (oh yeah, multiple outputs: there's another feature not mentioned > above). I'll begin recording a loop as normal. Then I've a command > that closes/plays the loop, assigns it to Aux Out 1 (where it's sent > to a pitch shifter set to +1 octave, then routed back into the LP-1), > drops to Half-Speed, and starts a Bounce on the next track. This > results in the recording of a time-stretched track that is twice the > length, but at the same pitch as the original. I can also begin to > get Repeater-esque degrade effects, dependent upon the crappiness of > the pitch-shifter I'm using. Throw in some other effects (bit-shift > or sample-rate degradation, synchronized slicing from the EF-303, > etc.) and things can get pretty wild. > > In both these cases, though, I'm doing exactly what Per suggested: I'm > starting from a concept of the end-goal --- the final effect --- then > working backward to find the best way to implement it on my architecture. > > That's the best way to use the LP-1. It's a very, very, open, > flexible architecture. If you try to use it plug-&-play, you'll get > only really the same advantages you listed above: stereo, multiple > tracks, and excellent fidelity. It's no wonder quite a few people > were very 'so what', and gave up on it after a couple of weeks. > There's not a lot of shiny eye-candy to be had right out of the box, > so you're not as likely to be inspired to go in different directions > merely by purchasing a new tool. > > However, if you figure out your end effect then work backward, the > LP-1 quietly and deftly allows you to do accomplish many of the new > directions you might conceive of in your looping. > > --m. --------------070909050707090005050805 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Duke,
Would you have the time to record a couple of examples of these creative techniques you've come up
with and post them so we can read them and here them simultaneously?

If you are really busy, no worries, but these are really cool creative ways to use the LP-1 that I've not
stumbled on or thought of and I'd love to learn them.

Thanks for an inspired post!

Happy New Years,    

rick walker

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote:
Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me
You left out a big one: the ability to stack commands in the LP-1.  Using a decent MIDI controller(!), you can put together whole sets of commands that can be fired off with a single button press — almost like a ‘macro’ or simple Mobius script.  

For instance, I put together a command that emulates what I call the ‘Red House’ effect (listen to ‘Two Soldiers’ or ‘The Red House’ from David Byrne’s “The Catherine Wheel” to hear what I’m talking about).  With this one, the loop buffer starts to fill as long as I have the MIDI pedal depressed.  The moment I let up on the pedal, it immediately begins to loop whatever was in the buffer.  Depress it again, and the previous buffer is immediately erased and begins filling a second time.  This allows me to tap the pedal quickly to capture very short looped snippets — or stutters — of sound.  A slightly longer tap means a slightly longer snippet.  If I tap several times while playing a line, it almost sounds like realtime granular, as the loop buffer grabs one ‘snapshot’ after another of what I’m playing.

Another one I put together allows me to do time-stretch, in conjunction with an outboard pitch-shift unit on the Auxiliary outs (oh yeah, multiple outputs: there’s another feature not mentioned above).  I’ll begin recording a loop as normal.  Then I’ve a command that closes/plays the loop, assigns it to Aux Out 1 (where it’s sent to a pitch shifter set to +1 octave, then routed back into the LP-1), drops to Half-Speed, and starts a Bounce on the next track.  This results in the recording of a time-stretched track that is twice the length, but at the same pitch as the original.  I can also begin to get Repeater-esque degrade effects, dependent upon the crappiness of the pitch-shifter I’m using.  Throw in some other effects (bit-shift or sample-rate degradation, synchronized slicing from the EF-303, etc.) and things can get pretty wild.

In both these cases, though, I’m doing exactly what Per suggested: I’m starting from a concept of the end-goal — the final effect — then working backward to find the best way to implement it on my architecture.

That’s the best way to use the LP-1.  It’s a very, very, open, flexible architecture.  If you try to use it plug-&-play, you’ll get only really the same advantages you listed above: stereo, multiple tracks, and excellent fidelity.  It’s no wonder quite a few people were very ‘so what’, and gave up on it after a couple of weeks.  There’s not a lot of shiny eye-candy to be had right out of the box, so you’re not as likely to be inspired to go in different directions merely by purchasing a new tool.  

However, if you figure out your end effect then work backward, the LP-1 quietly and deftly allows you to do accomplish many of the new directions you might conceive of in your looping.

        --m.

--------------070909050707090005050805-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 09:06:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7778C183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 01:06:07 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dustbunnies CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <60dKID.A.3J.FAEINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:06:13 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: > Yep, like the DD-20, this one is a sleeper. There are some very cool > things that you can get it to do, with a little advanced thought. Would you be into resinging those praises, Duke. I've never used a dedicated digital delay stomp box pedal but I'm suddenly really hankering to learn how to do that. I've heard people talk about the coolness of the DD-20 but never really known what hip alternative things it can do. and sorry for asking so much from you. Your posts have just really lit a fire under me today on this first day of 2011. Great way to start. Thanks for your creativity. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 09:37:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13E80183457; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:37:00 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01CBAA68.FCFD23C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcuqYBOopqeWO9WJQ46YsuRbwOiiDAAAEcdw In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:37:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01CBAA68.FCFD23C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > so then i turn on my fuzz and start playing over it and i'm like wow I like it a lot ... a very useful box in some situations ... http://veloopity.bandcamp.com/track/hoarse-horses -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01CBAA68.FCFD23C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> so then i turn on my fuzz = and start=20 playing over it =20 and i'm like wow 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0060_01CBAA68.FCFD23C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 09:41:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BB8A183451; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)'" , References: <4D1FF2A6.4050901@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: Y2K11 International Live Looping Festival Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:41:17 +0100 Message-ID: <3ED5652246A040628F7AC5E1D02B2992@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcuqYBjkLjQoEyuHSdKx1i/3JoL9PAAAPJqw In-Reply-To: <4D1FF2A6.4050901@cruzio.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:41:22 +0000 (UTC) > We look forward to seeing as many of you as possible in Santa Cruz in the third week of October would that be the weekend October 15-16 or 22-23 ? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 10:54:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B86A183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hTDAFYnEZzlJfC6nuDWZtzg6XmzD+ujvk9nH3bVLQWs=; b=PncUAw9Z9MlUs1Yjru1SjJ39Od/0QEacCgAEcE+pYzdDEvs9gZ/Y/lEBs9Hm89wFdF Xkhyadx3W9LljJKn0zXvx60gF5gd7JZq5bIRYG0tSgaf5r6x19aneaXtgMo7NW/lWcdO S7HI2CWB96pXPBXzwfzQ+yt26I4VvEb9DKfig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BreAy7X5gUXWT3HdhjlPk8lU1mcEbwsfljGVMojGEh60+omQcfLhp+OMnT0r6+2u4+ MCPEGXkUj8rV9Nzho301752MmFk6dWS81Ujy+Zv5oR4FtI5acWdsNujC8OI7YmZ5GIQ3 nQL/lQI7XERkB334pguk8HcVmwqRb7Pn5l11w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <-3760102056665956522@unknownmsgid> References: <240EA823-F746-4BDA-9102-821765B79CBC@googlemail.com> <-6764800028453888708@unknownmsgid> <4D1F63CD.1030602@tiscali.co.uk> <-3760102056665956522@unknownmsgid> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:54:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_I2CSC.A.4JC.XlFINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:54:15 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:06 AM, mark francombe wrote: > On a good arp you can build on your arp by holding some notes and > adding others. So true! Sometimes I feel sad when realizing how exceptionally powerful musical traditions ("features", "crafts", "skills") are left out when modern "jukebox context" products are designed with the bedroom studio market in target. My gosh, sequencers were better before MIDI was invented! A hell of a lot slower, but musically deeper. ARPs was the hands-on tool-box for performers. Someone should program an ARP software plugin with some "EDP attitude"! Would kick the juke-box maffia's ass. BTW, Tim Exile doesn't seem to have an arpeggiator in his performance rig: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r38r3BIgew Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 11:32:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F6D7183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DiRKReQOr2H8uflzmMSQrpY/pMahmiw5GJU0+AG4pQM=; b=qqEZYqKicKmyOv+fltqNyF/kKHHcbk5ctj0H/rNuWOK0iEwGqEkOPyiLj8cr8flfz5 IVegtHBuFNbq12fxVBor660WU5X48EK8rqR3RYGLg206XpOgEf50efazxioHhVGo3IRA We3JYn6+wigXFx/9OZ/yumxJp6goSZope+cOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ndAS0N4nSFviA6rAAtW5fR3RuHC3524QsOTF2nYGejiGaumN+plsONgC6Wr+dOYqAv scAvR9llEX7G+bzRwXZU9AonW0OB5T5e11NRtnJiFE4v+lm5+hnlBsmsCbUFw0B2zGOl umv+6lOF4ukbcKm6tyqvK7XmMQ/GnP8j+DC08= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:32:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lovely From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7Ou19D.A.dvC.PJGINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:32:31 +0000 (UTC) It was fun seeing a video from -79. I don't understand Finnish but I like the way this language sounds and also the "stone face" speaking style ;-) Cool instrument indeed, but the big fun for me was the -79 vibe penetrating the clothes, the hair cuts, the licks played and just about everything in that video. Things were about the same here in Sweden at that time. How come we didn't enjoy the world's super funny qualities back in the seventies? LOL, today it looks just hilarious. Like another "Mr Bean thing" ;-) Thanks for posting the video link! Per On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 2:02 AM, ^|>^m wrote: > Cool. =C2=A0Must be=C2=A0analogue synthesis with controls built into the = guitar > body(?) > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen wro= te: >> >> http://www.yle.fi/elavaarkisto/?s=3Ds&g=3D8&ag=3D95&t=3D541&a=3D4737 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 11:48:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94366183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T0iNwTE83tTQA/X6FUwzx9TnshXuscADKRtjWhgadhE=; b=gUAeq1xNBhU7eAVvyjWBouq47jO68fkTy5VykMRuQpyO7J27BXgqxHaRkGX+u7D690 T8YHoSIV+M4zhhuFUO7mWfNAkirboa6BF0B4hlAINaCiC3CCmBOlA1I844PcuSCwczDF rNZ3bTez4D/8vJRj34K5ikD9bpNPBJiMeQ1Wc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XXBG22kJHi2v4gwdMVlC+ql+9aDjF6NFhZFX2sSHl8ecx0b5MeD5X3tVauwnbdpBeG Yx2CnC9XZTcVqsfhvfvLtqFt4pFV5aZ0PZuecXeiDAcwnohzQrnjE4o+ArUiQ8VeZdXc K2sxdzg8qtVAxNoCYv2sD4uphCKaj3nw6/Y3M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:48:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lovely From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00248c05002f6cdd300498db9d1f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:48:35 +0000 (UTC) --00248c05002f6cdd300498db9d1f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, that was my point all the way... glad you liked it! Chiming into the "back in the days"-conversation that has been flowing ;-) -Petri- 2011/1/2 Per Boysen > It was fun seeing a video from -79. I don't understand Finnish but I > like the way this language sounds and also the "stone face" speaking > style ;-) Cool instrument indeed, but the big fun for me was the -79 > vibe penetrating the clothes, the hair cuts, the licks played and just > about everything in that video. Things were about the same here in > Sweden at that time. How come we didn't enjoy the world's super funny > qualities back in the seventies? LOL, today it looks just hilarious. > Like another "Mr Bean thing" ;-) Thanks for posting the video link! > > Per > > > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 2:02 AM, ^|>^m wrote: > > Cool. Must be analogue synthesis with controls built into the guitar > > body(?) > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > >> > >> http://www.yle.fi/elavaarkisto/?s=s&g=8&ag=95&t=541&a=4737 > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --00248c05002f6cdd300498db9d1f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, that was my point all the way... glad you liked it!

Chiming in= to the "back in the days"-conversation that has been flowing ;-)<= br>
-Petri-

2011/1/2 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com<= /a>>
It was fun seeing= a video from -79. I don't understand Finnish but I
like the way this language sounds and also the "stone face" speak= ing
style ;-) =A0Cool instrument indeed, but the big fun for me was the -79
vibe penetrating the clothes, the hair cuts, the licks played and just
about everything in that video. Things were about the same here in
Sweden at that time. How come we didn't enjoy the world's super fun= ny
qualities back in the seventies? LOL, today it looks just hilarious.
Like another "Mr Bean thing" =A0;-) =A0Thanks for posting the vid= eo link!

Per


On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 2:02 AM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cool. =A0Must be=A0analogue synthesis with controls built into the gui= tar
> body(?)
>
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.yle.fi/elavaar= kisto/?s=3Ds&g=3D8&ag=3D95&t=3D541&a=3D4737
>




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahti= nen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--00248c05002f6cdd300498db9d1f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 12:12:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D517E183455; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc :x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=Vd1sNUmRTXm4C/FQEPtF8Y+YI6WOYgNqeTQvY6y2GgA=; b=b+BAR1+W3vyGjAOnATLVFdt0tOcXIAnekpXu2hT6+XKwzo9wF2zGlB6ptyOOvQD9ty BaVbBh7UKe6oFu/vfmgabZXMxVxSUcgwPPS9i7rwfoHGVmgbXQBfPGvHJ49NIpopwMt+ /aEgAkh3oFi/F6AOVcYEE4xobaKsaOGNix95A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=Zh2FRcTGLGP2LOeYqJPcIBwkpY5yF2b7i94w5wimVM+NHEZ8pXhZhHkXaB/FhQ1w6b pd1/NED0OB0Xn0QoZP0Lt2lic73RrslTJzvxb7QRtwvt1hQPE1VboiQ/Dy5+Qruh3j9z wzIyczXvrGT0s85/e7+T+vEF0lOXK+VRGaQcI= References: <4D1FF2A6.4050901@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D1FF2A6.4050901@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <3A5E28D6-6F48-47AF-A4AD-CC356331743B@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "RICKWALKER- 412 Darwin Street (back house)" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: Y2K11 International Live Looping Festival Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:11:56 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:12:26 +0000 (UTC) That's the way, Rick. I'm sooooo glad that your Y2K loopfest will still live on earth and you made= the right choice on how to keep it going on. That's a good new as a start for the new year. If I can help in some way, let me know (website work for example), I'll be g= lad to give my help to the festival 'cos I got so much from it (and from you= ). All the best -Fabio Il giorno 02/gen/2011, alle ore 04:36, Rick Walker ha s= critto: > Hi Everyone, >=20 > So many people have asked me about the fate of the Y2K Looping Festivals s= eries > since I have announced I was retiring from producing it actively. >=20 > I've given this a lot of very hard thought and did not want my decision to= negatively > impact the looping community. >=20 > What I've decided to do is to become a mostly hands off Executive Director= for the > festival for the next couple of years at least and I've assembled a powerf= ul team > of 7 or 8 people who will actively run the festival as a committee. >=20 > Just because I have so much experience with how to do this extremely inexp= ensively > with maximum press exposure, I will be in an advisory capacity to this soo= n to be hard > working team of people but I intend to be as hands off as possible. >=20 > They will be doing all the work of this festival and I will not. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sooooo, I'm going to advise this group of people (who I'll name in publi= c as soon as > the whole team solidifies) to make the festival considerably smaller in th= is coming year. > I'm going to advise them to not book anyone until probably 3 months before= the festival > (just to cut down on the constant e-mails that occur if they take bookings= for the whole year). >=20 > People who wish to play the festival from outside of the country and who, t= herefore, have to > know as far in advance as possible to make their bookings will be able to a= pply before the > rest of the call for artists go out. >=20 > Also, due to failing revenue streams since the Recession hit us, we may n= ot be able to > provide transportation for foreign artists to and from the Airports as we h= ave in the past. > This still remains to be seen and there will be some official announcement= about what we've decided to do some time in the next few months. If we d= on't then we'll make sure to try and help foreign artists to coordinate > arrivals so they can carpool to and from the airports in either rental car= s or single trip 'airporters'. >=20 > There is also a strong possibility that there may only be a festival in Sa= nta Cruz to cut down > on all the considerable logistics of having additional concerts in other c= ities. Again, this will > reside with the committee who produces the festival, but the first year of= the new regime > will probably have to be a lot smaller than in past years. >=20 > So, that's it and I want to ask people to please respect my need for a va= cation > and patiently wait until the Y2K11 Committee posts officially for the firs= t time. >=20 > SO PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FESTIVAL= ! >=20 > Gosh, was I shouting just then? I was , but I do so in a loving way.= .......... >=20 > I just really need a break after 10 year of hard work but I truly want th= is festival > to go on because it's been so amazing in the past. >=20 > okee dokee, May 2011 be a fantastic year for this wonderful looping comm= unity. > We look forward to seeing as many of you as possible in Santa Cruz in the t= hird week > of October. >=20 > love, > rick walker >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 13:11:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2083183449; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:11:41 +0900 Subject: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) Thread-Index: AcuqfphrnJIGy52aTIKByQZT2rPYeg== In-Reply-To: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:11:46 +0000 (UTC) On 1/2/11 6:06 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: >> >> Yep, like the DD-20, this one is a sleeper. There are some very cool >> things that you can get it to do, with a little advanced thought. > > Would you be into resinging those praises, Duke. > I've never used a dedicated digital delay stomp box pedal but > I'm suddenly really hankering to learn how to do that. > I've heard people talk about the coolness of the DD-20 but never really > known what hip alternative things it can do. Sure, although it's been a while since I've had easy access to mine (sitting in a storage locker back in the US with most of my gear -- don't ask. :P ). I'm sure that some of the others who play with theirs on a regular basis can pop in to help too. First, the basic modes. The 'Sound On Sound' preset is crap. I've rarely been able to get a useable loop out of it, FWIW. But all the other modes are at least moderately interesting. There's 'Tape', 'Analog', 'Standard', 'Pan (Ping Pong)', 'Dual', 'Smooth', 'Modulate', 'Reverse', 'Warp', and 'Twist'. Some, like Twist (which emulates runaway feedback), are merely special effects. Most can be used in a variety of situations and sound good. Stir and season to taste. Best thing about it is that you can save five basic presets -- you can save your choice of basic settings (like delay time) and modes into any of these -- as well as a 'manual' mode that merely reads the knobs. These presets cycle from first to last, so no random access, but the last preset selected will continue playing after you select the next preset (sort of like 'tails' mode in Line6-speak). So, for instance, you could set up a quarter-note based loop with 100% feedback at one tempo on preset one, then have a triplet-based mode at a different tempo on preset two. Whatever you've played into preset one will continue as you work and manipulate preset two. When you switch to preset three, the data in preset one's buffer will disappear, but whatever is still playing from preset two will continue, and so on and so forth. Now, the settings for each preset don't have to be related, so it's really darn easy to set up loops which have different (or no) temporal relationships to each other. Makes it really good for setting up ambient loops that beat against each other. Next, you can use 'Pan', or Ping-Pong, mode and the 'null plug' trick to double the DD-20's available time from 23 seconds to 46 seconds, if you're willing to work in mono. Just remember to push an unterminated plug into output A. The audio will first sound through that output (which goes noplace) then through output B after an additional 23 seconds, thus doubling the total available delay time. (BTW, credit for that one goes to Coyote, who first posted about it here.) Additionally, the DD-20's have remarkably tiny build tolerances, meaning that any two units are extremely similar to each other. So similar that, even though there's no means to actually sync two DD-20's, you can loop the same note on two units using identical settings and they won't go out of sync, at least not for hours. Their clocks are amazingly stable, so it's possible to use two units in tandem without worrying about true synchronization -- thus allowing the possibility of four (or even more) synchronized/unsynchronized loops. And you can get some bizarre distortions out of the DD-20 by changing the tempo/delay time of a running loop, then changing it back. Experiment and have some fun with that one. Also, there's a jack in the back for another control pedal. This pedal can be set to accomplish a few different functions. IIRC, I was able to have a bit of fun by setting it to "Effect On/Off", then using an FS-5U (unlatching) pedal. Since turning it on & off really only determines whether sound is being fed into the data buffer, you can use the FS-5U to feed audio in only when depressed. Thus, you can play a legato line, but have a stuttered pattern of echoes looped from it. That's a few I remember. Perhaps Rainer or Ted or Sjaak (amongst others) have more to add on the subject. > and sorry for asking so much from you. Your posts have just really lit > a fire under > me today on this first day of 2011. > > Great way to start. Thanks for your creativity. No problem. Thanks for the complement. Glad I could make a little impact at the very least. :) --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 13:12:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B853D183451; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:12:55 +0900 Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Thread-Index: AcuqfsSHy4Ub5CzqQm6uIbKrdHTicQ== In-Reply-To: <4D203F40.3000009@cruzio.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3376851176_15120550" Resent-Message-ID: <3aajfC.A.UkE.anHINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:12:58 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3376851176_15120550 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hey Rick! Heh! I=B9ve thought about doing some of the same sort of videos that your brother does so well, but every time I consider having a video camera place= d on me, the blood drops outta me head and I slough off into a dead faint. ;= ) FWIW, my =8CRed House=B9 effect appears to be something you can do on the EDP (never got a chance to play with an EDP very much, so I don=B9t know). It seems you=B9ve probably already heard it, if not on one of the many Byrne/Eno/Belew recordings using it.. Also, I used it during my performanc= e for Y2k7. You can see it on one of the videos from that performance ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUcffXnqv_Lw ) starting at about 6:00. One of my projects for this New Year=B9s break is to remount the GK3 on my la= p steel (it was more ergonomic to mount it reversed, which the VG-99 is fine with. But now my GR-20 doesn=B9t have a clue what the hell is going on, so I gotta switch it.) While I=B9m in the studio I should record a bit more anyway, so mebbe I=B9ll see what I can put together in the next coupla days. :) --m. On 1/2/11 6:02 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > Hey Duke,=20 > Would you have the time to record a couple of examples of these creative > techniques you've come up > with and post them so we can read them and here them simultaneously? > =20 > If you are really busy, no worries, but these are really cool creative w= ays > to use the LP-1 that I've not > stumbled on or thought of and I'd love to learn them. > =20 > Thanks for an inspired post! > =20 > Happy New Years, > =20 > rick walker > =20 > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: >> Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me >> You left out a big one: the ability to stack commands in the LP-1. Usi= ng a >> decent MIDI controller(!), you can put together whole sets of commands t= hat >> can be fired off with a single button press =8B almost like a =8Cmacro=B9 or s= imple >> Mobius script. =20 >> =20 >> For instance, I put together a command that emulates what I call the =8CR= ed >> House=B9 effect (listen to =8CTwo Soldiers=B9 or =8CThe Red House=B9 from David By= rne=B9s >> =B3The Catherine Wheel=B2 to hear what I=B9m talking about). With this one, t= he >> loop buffer starts to fill as long as I have the MIDI pedal depressed. = The >> moment I let up on the pedal, it immediately begins to loop whatever was= in >> the buffer. Depress it again, and the previous buffer is immediately er= ased >> and begins filling a second time. This allows me to tap the pedal quick= ly to >> capture very short looped snippets =8B or stutters =8B of sound. A slightly >> longer tap means a slightly longer snippet. If I tap several times whil= e >> playing a line, it almost sounds like realtime granular, as the loop buf= fer >> grabs one =8Csnapshot=B9 after another of what I=B9m playing. >> =20 >> Another one I put together allows me to do time-stretch, in conjunction= with >> an outboard pitch-shift unit on the Auxiliary outs (oh yeah, multiple >> outputs: there=B9s another feature not mentioned above). I=B9ll begin recor= ding >> a loop as normal. Then I=B9ve a command that closes/plays the loop, assig= ns it >> to Aux Out 1 (where it=B9s sent to a pitch shifter set to +1 octave, then >> routed back into the LP-1), drops to Half-Speed, and starts a Bounce on = the >> next track. This results in the recording of a time-stretched track tha= t is >> twice the length, but at the same pitch as the original. I can also beg= in to >> get Repeater-esque degrade effects, dependent upon the crappiness of the >> pitch-shifter I=B9m using. Throw in some other effects (bit-shift or >> sample-rate degradation, synchronized slicing from the EF-303, etc.) and >> things can get pretty wild. >> =20 >> In both these cases, though, I=B9m doing exactly what Per suggested: I=B9m >> starting from a concept of the end-goal =8B the final effect =8B then workin= g >> backward to find the best way to implement it on my architecture. >> =20 >> That=B9s the best way to use the LP-1. It=B9s a very, very, open, flexible >> architecture. If you try to use it plug-&-play, you=B9ll get only really = the >> same advantages you listed above: stereo, multiple tracks, and excellent >> fidelity. It=B9s no wonder quite a few people were very =8Cso what=B9, and ga= ve up >> on it after a couple of weeks. There=B9s not a lot of shiny eye-candy to = be >> had right out of the box, so you=B9re not as likely to be inspired to go i= n >> different directions merely by purchasing a new tool. >> =20 >> However, if you figure out your end effect then work backward, the LP-1 >> quietly and deftly allows you to do accomplish many of the new direction= s you >> might conceive of in your looping. >> =20 >> --m. >> =20 > =20 > =20 --B_3376851176_15120550 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Hey Rick!

Heh!  I’ve thought about doing some of the same sort of videos t= hat your brother does so well, but every time I consider having a video came= ra placed on me, the blood drops outta me head and I slough off into a dead = faint.  ;)

FWIW, my ‘Red House’ effect appears to be something you can do = on the EDP (never got a chance to play with an EDP very much, so I don’= ;t know).  It seems you’ve probably already heard it, if not on o= ne of the many Byrne/Eno/Belew recordings using it..  Also, I used it d= uring my performance for Y2k7.  You can see it on one of the videos fro= m that performance ( ht= tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUcffXnqv_Lw ) starting at about 6:00.

One of my projects for this New Year’s break is to remount the GK3 on= my lap steel (it was more ergonomic to mount it reversed, which the VG-99 i= s fine with. But now my GR-20 doesn’t have a clue what the hell is goi= ng on, so I gotta switch it.)  While I’m in the studio I should r= ecord a bit more anyway, so mebbe I’ll see what I can put together in = the next coupla days.  :)

        --m.


On 1/2/11 6:02 PM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrot= e:

  Hey Duke,
 Would you have the time to record a couple of examples of these creat= ive techniques you've come up
 with and post them so we can read them and here them simultaneously?<= BR>  
 If you are really busy, no worries, but these are really cool creativ= e ways to use the LP-1 that I've not
 stumbled on or thought of and I'd love to learn them.
 
 Thanks for an inspired post!
 
 Happy New Years,     
 
 rick walker
 
 On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote:
 Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me
 You left out a big one: the ability to stack commands in the LP-1. &n= bsp;Using a decent MIDI controller(!), you can put together whole sets of co= mmands that can be fired off with a single button press — almost like = a ‘macro’ or simple Mobius script.  
 
 For instance, I put together a command that emulates what I call the = ‘Red House’ effect (listen to ‘Two Soldiers’ or R= 16;The Red House’ from David Byrne’s “The Catherine Wheel&= #8221; to hear what I’m talking about).  With this one, the loop = buffer starts to fill as long as I have the MIDI pedal depressed.  The = moment I let up on the pedal, it immediately begins to loop whatever was in = the buffer.  Depress it again, and the previous buffer is immediately e= rased and begins filling a second time.  This allows me to tap the peda= l quickly to capture very short looped snippets — or stutters — = of sound.  A slightly longer tap means a slightly longer snippet.  = ;If I tap several times while playing a line, it almost sounds like realtime= granular, as the loop buffer grabs one ‘snapshot’ after another= of what I’m playing.
 
 Another one I put together allows me to do time-stretch, in conjuncti= on with an outboard pitch-shift unit on the Auxiliary outs (oh yeah, multipl= e outputs: there’s another feature not mentioned above).  I’= ;ll begin recording a loop as normal.  Then I’ve a command that c= loses/plays the loop, assigns it to Aux Out 1 (where it’s sent to a pi= tch shifter set to +1 octave, then routed back into the LP-1), drops to Half= -Speed, and starts a Bounce on the next track.  This results in the rec= ording of a time-stretched track that is twice the length, but at the same p= itch as the original.  I can also begin to get Repeater-esque degrade e= ffects, dependent upon the crappiness of the pitch-shifter I’m using. =  Throw in some other effects (bit-shift or sample-rate degradation, syn= chronized slicing from the EF-303, etc.) and things can get pretty wild.
 
 In both these cases, though, I’m doing exactly what Per suggest= ed: I’m starting from a concept of the end-goal — the final effe= ct — then working backward to find the best way to implement it on my = architecture.
 
 That’s the best way to use the LP-1.  It’s a very, v= ery, open, flexible architecture.  If you try to use it plug-&-play= , you’ll get only really the same advantages you listed above: stereo,= multiple tracks, and excellent fidelity.  It’s no wonder quite a= few people were very ‘so what’, and gave up on it after a coupl= e of weeks.  There’s not a lot of shiny eye-candy to be had right= out of the box, so you’re not as likely to be inspired to go in diffe= rent directions merely by purchasing a new tool.  
 
 However, if you figure out your end effect then work backward, the LP= -1 quietly and deftly allows you to do accomplish many of the new directions= you might conceive of in your looping.
 
         --m.
  

 
--B_3376851176_15120550-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 13:36:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D48DF183459; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:36:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D207F40.30300@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 05:36:00 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Peters CC: "'LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)'" , Y2KXloopfest@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: Y2K11 International Live Looping Festival References: <3ED5652246A040628F7AC5E1D02B2992@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <3ED5652246A040628F7AC5E1D02B2992@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:36:10 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > > would that be the weekend October 15-16 or 22-23 ? > 14,15,16 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 13:48:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A96918345A; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 555796992/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0CABsRIE1YbRSa/2dsb2JhbAAMlh/KN4J9gk0EjhU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,263,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="555796992" Message-ID: <4D208221.5000400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:48:17 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fwd: OT SYNTHETIC MODES References: <4D1D4DAF.5020803@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D1D4DAF.5020803@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > > Another of my favorite scales currently, is > the Lydian mode with a flattened 7th > > 1 2 3 #4 5 6 b7 8va > I just love how exotic it sounds and yet, to my ear it doesn't sound > 'foreign' > That's because it's one of the modes of the ascending melodic minor. 1 2 b3 4 5 6 7 8va They all produce melodies that sound familiar within the Western European classical idiom, while having an unusual harmonic flavour. Another quick easy to get example would be "Phrygian with a natural 6" 1 b2 b3 4 5 6 b7 8va andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 14:00:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56CC4183461; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:56:12 +0900 Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: The EDP and the Looperlative Thread-Index: AcuqhNB2/uGymE+2Qs2/00Sql+PySQ== In-Reply-To: <0EEE0B9E-C993-4136-A73B-653FE7825222@grubmah.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:00:11 +0000 (UTC) On 1/2/11 4:39 PM, "Mark Hamburg" wrote: > On Jan 1, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Dustbunnies wrote: > >>> That's cool, but the EDP is loaded with >>> SUS-style and other long-press based behaviors and works with a range of >>> controllers. >> >> Eh? Waitasec, now I'm a bit confused. You can do the EDP "long press" >> functions with a standard MIDI pedal? How the devil are they implementing >> that?!? > > It needs a pedal that will send note on and note off or that will send > controller to max and controller to min. So, it won't work with controllers > that only send program changes, but if the controller will send note > information or send pedals as non-latching continuous controllers, the EDP is > built to recognize the pedal release. Oh, sweet. I should've known that Andy and Matthias would come up with something interesting. The note compatibility makes sense and I'd imagine that the CC max/min config was taken to maintain compatibility with the ordinary sustain pedal. Good idea. But, you do realize that it kinda puts the LP1 and EDP on the same ground in regard to MIDI controllers, right? I mean, in both cases, you can get basic functionality by using an ordinary PC-style MIDI pedal, but to get the most out of it, you need one that supports a bit more. In the case of the EDP, you need one that transmits MIDI in notes-mode or CC. For the LP1, things like the ability to fire off commands on pedal release or timed commands. In neither case is an advanced pedal controller absolutely necessary, but you can surely get enhanced capability by using one. Anyway, thanks for the background on the EDP control functionality. Now if I can just get somebody to explain to me in plain English what 'Loop Windowing' is, mebbe I can figure out how to get the LP1 to do that. ;D --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 14:03:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58288183473; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D20858B.5030309@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:02:51 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: 1st Roland Guitar Synth was: Re: Lovely References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Completely coincidentally, I know what this instrument is because I happen to have one for sale right at this moment and I discovered what it is when I researched it to try and find it's price. it is the very first official guitar synth put out by Roland (the Roland GR500) It has hexaphonic pickups that are made from recording heads from tape decks. It also has a proprietary chord (which is missing) and a zillion buttons. It also ways a ton......literally, by far the heaviest guitar I've ever picked up. It also has several sheered off toggle switches which work and would be easily replaced. http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/guitsyn.htm I have it due to one of the weirder encounters I've ever had. It's a longish story but I'll tell it for anyone interested: My wife and I walked down the street a couple of months back but after the Looping Festival and were stopped by a random elderly, well dressed lady. She asked, "Are you a musician?" I said, "yes" , a bit mystified as to how she came to that conclusion (maybe the purple leather jacket). and she said, "I had tenants who left my home many years ago. They just left a bunch of musical instruments when they moved out and never came back for them. I've lost touch with them over the years and I've decided that I want to go on a long trip and think I've stored them long enough. They're obviously not coming back. Can you advise me how to get rid of them?" I said, "Well, I'd put an ad on e-bay and sell them." She said, "Well, I'm leaving at the start of next week so I don't want to sell it, Can I just give them to you?" I asked, "What do you have" and she said, "a pair of congas and a bass guitar" Amazingly, I had just started to teach a woman congas who didn't own a set yet and I had a friend who I used to play with in Noise Clinic, who wanted but did not own a bass", so I thought I'd just pass this good fortune on. I was also really busy at the time so I said, "Can I get your phone number and I'll have this woman call you who , coincidentally, needs a set of congas?" She said "Yes, thank you very much for you help." I called my student and said, "If you have time to go up an pick this equipment up for me, I'll give you the congas for free." She said "Yes" and at her next lesson, my student brought the congas, a bass guitar, a really nice triple guitar stand and this amazing relic. I gave away the congas and the bass guitar and kept the guitar stand and the Roland Guitar synth. I've been told it's worth a lot to a collector of such stuff which is rare and probably not very much otherwise. It does have a hex pickup which would be very easy to rewire and it could have some cool possibilities. Someone told me that a guitar dealer that i know in town has got the Roland Synth unit that completes the package so I probably will head down to see what he'll cough up for the interesting relic. If not, I'll entertain any reasonable offer. Odd story, eh? Rick Walker > > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 2:02 AM, ^|>^m wrote: >> Cool. Must be analogue synthesis with controls built into the guitar >> body(?) >> >> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >>> http://www.yle.fi/elavaarkisto/?s=g=8&ag�&tT1&aG37 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 14:09:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B497918347E; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jKsJy1qM6UIcQikGpHveV1HVmpYMw4PLbkeO0jrCEfY=; b=XKkT1HOcbxeBGn67tyhAjQbE+KfTDoj3YHDZx5meVUiiFt/J3j4DuVlMWa826bkRYR 8oTsBxTwyqHtzLOKpGGSb9uJ8uT5kCxw9h2if0f3+WbLD5b2wjJSj9B/HWOynUSyPdS4 1AJYeDBQVOmHUKjfISkx+9AuhvQEBhwid/TUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AilUGAFx3VX2mIeyuPFiHHA3Q/AsCECQ6pWELP/LsmjxH9RQi2rnwJSz2Y2v9jYMx/ 5lZJ4VjZ6ltJylLFFmRnfm6vSwusMRCr2BHCqGvKp1LSxuwHHUtjtTEGKlgQ1wCeyfXi 6EQT8gBHIMW21MUKRKlBvrwpPOo3AiMD8vnQA= Message-ID: <4D208703.2060509@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 15:09:07 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K11 International Live Looping Festival References: <4D1FF2A6.4050901@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D1FF2A6.4050901@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > I've given this a lot of very hard thought and did not want my > decision to negatively > impact the looping community. The kids have grown up and are finally out of the house, but you still care for them and offer a guiding hand...;) That's a great message to start the year for this community, Rick! Yours, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 14:12:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8F9E18347D; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: 1st Roland Guitar Synth was: Re: Lovely References: <4D20858B.5030309@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" In-Reply-To: <4D20858B.5030309@cruzio.com> Message-ID: thread-topic: 1st Roland Guitar Synth was: Re: Lovely thread-index: AcuqhyZ4uvKkYlg8RBifley8jISrZA== Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:11:45 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2011 14:12:55.0771 (UTC) 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X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0CAKcbIE1YbRSa/2dsb2JhbAAMlh/KQYVKBI4V X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,263,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="555823043" Message-ID: <4D208D10.9090400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:34:56 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator References: <4D1A6747.3000706@googlemail.com> <8468670971305893398@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-BfQdD.A.J2G.z0IINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:35:31 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Like.. (@bidule users.. ) how do you er.. "expose" to the front panel, > only the controls you need to show on the outside of the group? Right click the group, and select "group>>parameters". Then you can select any parameters you want to make available and even name them how you like. Once you've done that you can double click the group and it's window opens with the faders available. also If you save the Bidule layout with the bits of GUI you want to see visible then they'll also be visible when that layout is loaded. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 14:51:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4796A18347C; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 550091254/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0CAN4fIE1YbRSa/2dsb2JhbAAMlh/KQ4VKBI4V X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,263,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="550091254" Message-ID: <4D2090DE.70702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:51:10 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me References: <4D1FED7D.4070607@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D1FED7D.4070607@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > I also wanted to add that another fascinating thing that the > Looperlative does which is unique in the hardware world is the fact that > you can connect to the Internet through an Ethernet port connecting a > computer to the LP-1 to upgrade the instruments software. > > The LP-1 navigates to the latest software revision out, downloads it > and installs it > within 30 seconds. that's a totally brilliant feature, but be aware that while you get the *latest* version by doing that you don't currently get the latest *stable* version. I strongly advise against it, for now anyway. The LP1 also can connect to your computer (easiest through a router, but not essential) and allow you to install any available firmware version. Current consensus is that 1.34c is the most stable, with 1.37 being good for most users. > > If there is a strong consensus amongst users for either a new piece of > software or a revision > or fix of older software problems, then Bob Amstadt (or Andy Butler) > can work on it. > Software revisions are free. Outed! ;-) right now Bob's looking at a major revision which will fix the recent problems with stability associated with the latest versions of the firmware. That may take a while, but will be worth the wait. Until then, any additions/fixes are 'pending'. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 15:20:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6AA018347D; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 550105891/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0CAPYlIE1YbRSa/2dsb2JhbAAMlh7KNIVKBI4V X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,263,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="550105891" Message-ID: <4D2097A2.1040704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 15:20:02 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Dustbunnies wrote: > Now if > I can just get somebody to explain to me in plain English what 'Loop > Windowing' is, mebbe I can figure out how to get the LP1 to do that. ;D > It's all to do with how the edp handles memory, in some ways very similar to the "Frippertronics" type thing where the whole performance is committed to tape. Each time you do an overdub, the EDP moves forward through memory by a loop length. So, to "Undo" an overdub (or several) the playback point just moves back in memory. When you do a Multiply, the EDP still keeps all the old memory, but now the loop length is different. So..say you Multiplyed to 8 cycles, then hitting Undo will still take you back into the loop history, but the loop length is now 'all wrong' so you'll hear an 8 cycle loop made up of the last 8 overdubs you did appearing in order. (rather spectacular if instead of doing overdubs you'd been using 8the Replace). http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/backwater.mp3 ...loop window opens at 2:00 Alternatively you can not do Undo just yet, you can build up a few overdubs on the Multiplied loop, then use Multiply again to bring the loop down to One cycle again. *Now* if you hit Undo you work your way back along sections of the long overdubs you just did. It seems complicated, but really it's a bug in the software. You're allowed to Undo into areas of memory where it makes no conventional sense to do so. Undo just jumps you back by the current loop length, and so if you messed with the loop length the results are "interesting". I'm thinking "no way is he gonna do that on the LP1", but I hope you'll see that as a challenge. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 15:28:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73C1918347F; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=iPkDWVfIvm3tdmxilaaHnweDpP0pVR9nhhhSraR5zwI=; b=X0D1TgFuek2bA+148DSUGo0CeXNrsrfHfNVBvnEydFE/ZCs50K15i24vC6/AIJyf2l u2nwS0sptdxFSHVWp5z/+fl2kmkIy9mmBhIC+LPKSZ77H6kG7HSnCJkgkP7Ac4TUr6nc wWA/49b6w1z81o3S8+xALYYYLr+d/E3r4LBro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=fwSkp+6Z5sU4Y35NsudMNcgngRXiUA8cWq9SQNPFvehjsQYszb7w/qyZu+nkHxubRN YqUfbOxt2FCdpr/bLiaLs9YbDF7c2R6rekic0Yfbp1/QLtPnLC+IfXjyackccQgq9BzC l4ufPhtIikNzXbapAXaD/2jaKxantCC+4CR7o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D208D10.9090400@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D1A6747.3000706@googlemail.com> <8468670971305893398@unknownmsgid> <4D208D10.9090400@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:28:34 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CKdeHzyRqrbP0n58mbGe5Z7Az-0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: low cpu midi appegiator To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8380745f3c0498deb17d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:28:56 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8380745f3c0498deb17d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thx Andy... thats what I needed to know... On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, andy butler wrote: > mark francombe wrote: > > Like.. (@bidule users.. ) how do you er.. "expose" to the front panel, >> only the controls you need to show on the outside of the group? >> > > > > Right click the group, and select "group>>parameters". > Then you can select any parameters you want to > make available and even name them how you like. > Once you've done that you can double click the group > and it's window opens with the faders available. > > also > > If you save the Bidule layout with the bits of GUI > you want to see visible then they'll also be visible > when that layout is loaded. > > andy > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8380745f3c0498deb17d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 thx Andy... thats what I needed to know...

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
mark francombe wrote:

Like.. (@bidule users.. ) how do you er.. "expose" to the front panel, only the controls you need to show on the outside of the group?



Right click the group, and select "group>>parameters".
Then you can select any parameters you want to
make available and even name them how you like.
Once you've done that you can double click the group
and it's window opens with the faders available.

also

If you save the Bidule layout with the bits of GUI
you want to see visible then they'll also be visible
when that layout is loaded.

andy




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e8380745f3c0498deb17d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 16:10:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22F0318347F; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me References: <4D1FED7D.4070607@cruzio.com> <4D2090DE.70702@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D2090DE.70702@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: thread-topic: The EDP and the Looperlative and me thread-index: Acuql521/YfRxZaySgy0Hpj3LbT2vA== Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:09:39 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2011 16:10:47.0699 (UTC) FILETIME=[9DF40630:01CBAA97] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Hey Andy if you upgrade do you lose your current programming? Lack of backup= (maybe there is backup now?) is my only real downer on the Lp1 ;( Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:51 AM, andy butler wrote: > Rick Walker wrote: >> I also wanted to add that another fascinating thing that the Looperlative= does which is unique in the hardware world is the fact that you can connect= to the Internet through an Ethernet port connecting a >> computer to the LP-1 to upgrade the instruments software. >> The LP-1 navigates to the latest software revision out, downloads it an= d installs it >> within 30 seconds. >=20 > that's a totally brilliant feature, but be aware > that while you get the *latest* version by doing that > you don't currently get the latest *stable* version. >=20 > I strongly advise against it, for now anyway. >=20 > The LP1 also can connect to your computer (easiest through a router, > but not essential) and allow you to install any available > firmware version. > Current consensus is that 1.34c is the most stable, > with 1.37 being good for most users. >=20 >> If there is a strong consensus amongst users for either a new piece of so= ftware or a revision >> or fix of older software problems, then Bob Amstadt (or Andy Butler) can= work on it. >> Software revisions are free. >=20 > Outed! ;-) >=20 > right now Bob's looking at a major revision which will fix the recent prob= lems with stability associated with the > latest versions of the firmware. > That may take a while, but will be worth the wait. > Until then, any additions/fixes are 'pending'. >=20 > andy butler >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 16:11:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7971183488; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101020067 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-02_04:2010-12-31,2011-01-02,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Message-id: From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: DD-20 (Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 09:11:38 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:11:44 +0000 (UTC) One thing I liked about it was the ability to truncate or lengthen the loop on the fly. Say you have a 28 sec delay going, you can chop it down to however fast you want to tap to get a short rhythmic thing going, then tap in and out after so many repeats to re-lengthen so as to layer a longer overdub. Also useful in tap syncing to the previous running memory slot. The only downside was that you do have to do some manual manipulation of the feedback control - it's not pedal assignable - to fade/ freeze the loop. The other thing that's nice is that it's battery powered. On Jan 2, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: > On 1/2/11 6:06 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: >>> >>> Yep, like the DD-20, this one is a sleeper. There are some very >>> cool >>> things that you can get it to do, with a little advanced thought. >> >> Would you be into resinging those praises, Duke. >> I've never used a dedicated digital delay stomp box pedal but >> I'm suddenly really hankering to learn how to do that. >> I've heard people talk about the coolness of the DD-20 but never >> really >> known what hip alternative things it can do. > > Sure, although it's been a while since I've had easy access to mine > (sitting > in a storage locker back in the US with most of my gear -- don't > ask. :P ). > I'm sure that some of the others who play with theirs on a regular > basis can > pop in to help too. > > First, the basic modes. The 'Sound On Sound' preset is crap. I've > rarely > been able to get a useable loop out of it, FWIW. But all the other > modes > are at least moderately interesting. There's 'Tape', 'Analog', > 'Standard', > 'Pan (Ping Pong)', 'Dual', 'Smooth', 'Modulate', 'Reverse', 'Warp', > and > 'Twist'. Some, like Twist (which emulates runaway feedback), are > merely > special effects. Most can be used in a variety of situations and > sound > good. Stir and season to taste. > > Best thing about it is that you can save five basic presets -- you > can save > your choice of basic settings (like delay time) and modes into any > of these > -- as well as a 'manual' mode that merely reads the knobs. These > presets > cycle from first to last, so no random access, but the last preset > selected > will continue playing after you select the next preset (sort of like > 'tails' > mode in Line6-speak). So, for instance, you could set up a quarter- > note > based loop with 100% feedback at one tempo on preset one, then have a > triplet-based mode at a different tempo on preset two. Whatever > you've > played into preset one will continue as you work and manipulate > preset two. > When you switch to preset three, the data in preset one's buffer will > disappear, but whatever is still playing from preset two will > continue, and > so on and so forth. > > Now, the settings for each preset don't have to be related, so it's > really > darn easy to set up loops which have different (or no) temporal > relationships to each other. Makes it really good for setting up > ambient > loops that beat against each other. > > Next, you can use 'Pan', or Ping-Pong, mode and the 'null plug' > trick to > double the DD-20's available time from 23 seconds to 46 seconds, if > you're > willing to work in mono. Just remember to push an unterminated plug > into > output A. The audio will first sound through that output (which goes > noplace) then through output B after an additional 23 seconds, thus > doubling > the total available delay time. (BTW, credit for that one goes to > Coyote, > who first posted about it here.) > > Additionally, the DD-20's have remarkably tiny build tolerances, > meaning > that any two units are extremely similar to each other. So similar > that, > even though there's no means to actually sync two DD-20's, you can > loop the > same note on two units using identical settings and they won't go > out of > sync, at least not for hours. Their clocks are amazingly stable, so > it's > possible to use two units in tandem without worrying about true > synchronization -- thus allowing the possibility of four (or even > more) > synchronized/unsynchronized loops. > > And you can get some bizarre distortions out of the DD-20 by > changing the > tempo/delay time of a running loop, then changing it back. > Experiment and > have some fun with that one. > > Also, there's a jack in the back for another control pedal. This > pedal can > be set to accomplish a few different functions. IIRC, I was able to > have a > bit of fun by setting it to "Effect On/Off", then using an FS-5U > (unlatching) pedal. Since turning it on & off really only determines > whether sound is being fed into the data buffer, you can use the > FS-5U to > feed audio in only when depressed. Thus, you can play a legato > line, but > have a stuttered pattern of echoes looped from it. > > That's a few I remember. Perhaps Rainer or Ted or Sjaak (amongst > others) > have more to add on the subject. > >> and sorry for asking so much from you. Your posts have just >> really lit >> a fire under >> me today on this first day of 2011. >> >> Great way to start. Thanks for your creativity. > > No problem. Thanks for the complement. Glad I could make a little > impact > at the very least. :) > > --m. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 16:44:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECF12183486; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 558773420/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0CAKc5IE1YbRSa/2dsb2JhbAAMlgvKHoVKBI4V X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,263,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="558773420" Message-ID: <4D20AB66.1090109@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:44:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me References: <4D1FED7D.4070607@cruzio.com> <4D2090DE.70702@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Andy Owens wrote: > Hey Andy if you upgrade do you lose your current programming? No, that stays. > Lack of backup (maybe there is backup now?) is my only real downer on the Lp1 ;( > There's backup if you connect to a PC by ethernet. (via a router is easiest). You then then save your setup file. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 17:04:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CD0A18347F; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=2d3vt210dhzjONIP2Jqqq6wOaXbXaDW82sKEj0gmtLA=; b=CuTc5wM5seWmBD7L/dkhKJ/J/ybu3eMGGjRVdKwqYNEt/i0OX8o9G8YKiz1xn6e8Zg TXk2rV5DUZ3+4MVkVKlz3hES3KfLEjc34Auxj3nOnAI7nHGLH5lfn9ns+/gwl0z/geoE X+BQczL7/qRUyACML+hoe/n2itpZ9dWtzn4FQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=rY6f3Ex7O++MqUc5msWyu02Tdnb0Mh9XM3RjHDjMAOczOu/bYTRFMovWrTij1GxmG7 jfnhAVYPL3hWTtkO+50GgDsr6Yu5yE3WwKnO+amRSgjb1VxXvVLSDfzKsagaxzDPK3Pu 5q91y0cnBNSnajNu9tA+HVJF7nuONHadaNCL0= Message-Id: <998B12B6-157C-4292-BB24-27D82BF6F042@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-538470 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: interview with John Mclaughlin Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:03:54 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <0sv2vB.A.ENC.CALINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:04:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-538470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On NPR this morning, with John calling in from Santa Cruz no less. http://www.npr.org/2011/01/02/132487200/john-mclaughlin-on-coltrane-and-spirituality-in-music regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-1-538470 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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re= gards

BobC


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On= NPR this morning, with John calling in from Santa Cruz no less.
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--001636c5ae012a711e0498e01920-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 17:19:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5FC618348C; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wLhCSyB8vqYA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=ZM9neVk1im-R-e-Hv-kA:9 a=uTdA5ZaoH75rdn7hUJtBog3VOrYA:4 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 Message-Id: <2E9022C9-FDD9-40E1-829E-A2E9479C2BD3@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:19:20 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Amen. On Jan 1, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Dustbunnies wrote: > As I=92ve said before, I=92d swear there=92s one (and only one) = =93random =20 > genius=94 that Roland/Boss has roaming their R&D. They only give him =20= > about a day with any particular product before they whisk him over =20 > to the next project. If this one guy ever spins off into his own =20 > company, I=92m gonna buy stock in it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 17:29:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F6A5183492; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me References: <4D1FED7D.4070607@cruzio.com> <4D2090DE.70702@tiscali.co.uk> <4D20AB66.1090109@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-11-1996746"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <4D20AB66.1090109@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <9365D459-757D-4BBF-A86D-8A37838BC5F5@1800dialword.com> thread-topic: The EDP and the Looperlative and me thread-index: AcuqopZDRHqSuzMdRXiDizhVnmHS/A== Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:28:12 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2011 17:29:19.0598 (UTC) FILETIME=[9676C0E0:01CBAAA2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:29:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11-1996746 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cool thanks Andy, i have 1.3 been stable for me. Noticed lately that if I ha= ve eight tracks going sometimes I lose midi control, keeps playing but no co= ntrol, have to shut off lp1 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 2, 2011, at 11:44 AM, "andy butler" wrote: > Andy Owens wrote: > > Hey Andy if you upgrade do you lose your current programming? >=20 > No, that stays. >=20 > > Lack of backup (maybe there is backup now?) is my only real downer on th= e Lp1 ;( > > >=20 > There's backup if you connect to a PC by ethernet. > (via a router is easiest). >=20 > You then then save your setup file. >=20 > andy butler >=20 --Apple-Mail-11-1996746 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Cool thanks Andy, i have 1.3 been stable for me. Noticed lately that if I have eight tracks going sometimes I lose midi control, keeps playing but no control, have to shut off lp1

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 2, 2011, at 11:44 AM, "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

Andy Owens wrote:
> Hey Andy if you upgrade do you lose your current programming?

No, that stays.

> Lack of backup (maybe there is backup now?) is my only real downer on the Lp1 ;(
>

There's backup if you connect to a PC by ethernet.
(via a router is easiest).

You then then save your setup file.

andy butler

--Apple-Mail-11-1996746-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 17:43:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA0F0183498; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6E5BA1B2-4509-4D09-B189-1B3163351372@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:43:04 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:43:13 +0000 (UTC) I thought I would show you all a typical bank of my LP-1 presets. I currently have 6 full banks of twelve preset switches each and two expression pedals globally set to volume and feedback which can control either all tracks, a single track or groups of tracks depending on how i set it up. Eventually I may add a third expression pedal to control track speed or panning but for now I don't really need it. So below are my bank presets and some insight if needed, in to why or how I use them. Preset #1 sync record/overdub pretty self explanatory.... Preset #2 replace + track speed my go to preset when I want to seamlessly change track pitch when replacing (either up or down an octave) I also use this as standard replace in which I end the command not with a second press of this switch but with my preset #1 sync record/ overdub switch. preset #3 play stop now I use this more to arm a new track to be the same length as the original track and then I use the replace function to actually add new content. Again if you have recorded a first track and you go to a new track and press play stop, it will arm that track to the same length as the first track so when I do start to actually record on that track, its length is pre determined by the first loop. Does that make sense? preset #4 Quantize replace this is a sus style command achieved by doubling up to functions on one preset in this case quantize replace. In order to achieve a sus style command one needs to duplicate the function on a preset, so if you look at my first command its quantize replace followed by another quantize replace. I assume this can be achieved by duplicating other functions as well but I haven't delved that deeply yet in to those options. Preset #5 half speed I often times arm a track at half speed before beginning a new loop Preset #6 Replace/half speed/ reverse where did those weird violins from hell come from??? this preset Preset #7 All tracks this is the command I hit before ending a song with a feedback reduction fade or a stop, I probably could just use the front panel command but I like to keep my hands free for playing. Preset #8 Set as Master I keep this handy because I sometimes like to start with a long rubato melody before moving to shorter rhythm based tracks. I'll record a long loop, move to a new track and hit the set as master button. This is also cool to use for me because i have different quantize values set for different tracks so if I want to use a quantize value of 9 (to create a 9/8 beat) I start recording on track three where I've placed that beat division. Preset #9 Multiply in my case double, no explanation needed?? Preset #10 Erase/feedback 100% whenever I erase a track or all tracks I want to make sure that everything is back to 100% feedback, as I'm constantly changing the feedback in real time with the pedal and I don't want a new track fading away accidently because the last time I was on the track I had changed the feedback Preset #11 track next preset #12 previous track. I have other banks set up to achieve more complex ABC song forms , which I can describe when I get my LP-1 in front of me because the scripts are pretty long. one bank for some of the mellotron style pitch shifting, one bank dedicated to bounce functions, one bank the has multiple press functions like quantize replace/track speed/reverse In which I have to double up all three of those commands to get a sus style pedal action. example that preset would look something like this: quantize replace- half speed-reverse-quantize replace-half speed- reverse Other functions I use in no particular order on other banks are: sync bounce, copy, except track, q replace+ track speed, 1/4 speed, and midi sync record overdub, if I'm tracking to an external clock, and fast scramble. I haven't done much experimenting in a while to discover new strategies but I think there is still a lot of undiscovered territory left to explore. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 17:43:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6481183499; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bbTjdhgc+yS7irLhE1nTs/zbEUcaGPGWr2k3gTc+PGY=; b=ggCtfEjiCsiHM+7uwRq+h7fYG1yfnnSKpigYC55E7HYIEveobzKmBtLqHYukSSciFv tlgZQNdT2rPx0Ly2snxrF7D6Fzm3ZE9bWejNDUuZTo6cB6UqfTZx6JU4ThkX4wa/PVZy DOn4DpPqTo+T4N+34SFcylHP4zJ5SS382yjAI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=onTPF3EKmJnqJ2OkzRAs0TUSXfZR8FKAIsISODunPzIXBBQkXtMFd1Z78X/YLkBqlL KRaCpZbw860RIthRr/UbZyPOTYu4pDXswFsXXhLiXsa6WjH5+Ub31KcVTQ5DXXs2GSGP LU/MS2aJmfPQRMnephRG7PVMBA+OSkBSyb/s8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <998B12B6-157C-4292-BB24-27D82BF6F042@gmail.com> References: <998B12B6-157C-4292-BB24-27D82BF6F042@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:43:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interview with John Mclaughlin From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:43:24 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 6:03 PM, RP Collier wrote: > On NPR this morning, with John calling in from Santa Cruz no less. > http://www.npr.org/2011/01/02/132487200/john-mclaughlin-on-coltrane-and-spirituality-in-music Thanks, Bob. Inspiring listening :-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 17:53:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D39BA183492; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W++JuFW4e9R9iwrtxx85KLpdKUFDjhQk2tYLASGNBGE=; b=WvxegaPxJKeXDq0eG1ZxCN6TfNO6d6NbGlyaBR2jbxJLEm2Za6DPim4gwwr5plReVt qTSM7Yan8mtUuplpo2GLehkZk9i4iRpywR9fhEfdtU3rZvJtQVN5wAu3GhBiwhxO9ReQ 67wkST/aCyVRuZVuAwxg0Aysy4nMx/STv51ZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NYWW/tf/LaVFdU5hjz2fTlrbXwiQ0D75k3ujSD6fBZ/WM4G4ZXAU87zzq3greZWZvR nONNEBxvvY7yG3BoHxDkDoonAJ/w3ZrUFmmxLya6PpWFgnUIeJAm2+GLvJRMnfRjWlry WtF8q8EtwhWjJrfuFBdlk/6F6yHiYuqnQoDoI= Message-ID: <4D20BBA8.8010006@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:53:44 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Dustbunnies schrieb: > That's a few I remember. Perhaps Rainer or Ted or Sjaak (amongst others) > have more to add on the subject. > Glad to do. Here some unordered comments (some of them just expanding what you or others in the past already said). 1. The DD20 is basically a simple, long delay. And that's what's cool about it. Having a 23-second stereo delay (actually two of them) at your disposal is rare even today, at least in the stompbox world. With that comes that it lends itself to delay-style looping. 2. My personal favourite editing style must be the faux unrounded multiply which dustbunnies already described. It's accomplished by tapping a new tempo, by which you can either cut out bits from an existing loop, or expand the existing one. "Faux" insofar as when you lengthen the loop, you need to overdub onto the longer resulting loop after ending the "multiply" - not while multiplying. 3. Normally, the input signal goes through unattenuated. You have a level knob with which you control the volume of the delay. In a send/return setup with a mixer, this is usually undesirable. There's two exceptions to that: a) you can set an output mode where output A is dry and output B is wet, so by only using output B, you got a 100% wet signal. Disadvantage: you loose stereo. b) in reverse mode, when you turn the effect level up full, then the input signal is cut off from the outputs. 4. @dust_bunnies: thanks for the tip with configuring the external pedal for on/off and using an unlatched footswitch for some susoverdub! Need to try that myself. 5. Working with the "trailing delay" thing works with a little bit of planning ahead, because unfortunately, you can't go back to the first delay. So there's two ways to work with it I do use: a) Play something into the delay ("delay 1"), set feedback to 100%, then switch to the next delay (e.g. to another one of your presets, you can do that with a footswitch). Then you got another delay ("delay 2") you can play with, while delay 1 will continue forever - or until you switch from delay 2 to yet another delay - of course, then you loose the ability to control delay 2 any further. b) Same as a), but set feedback for delay 1 to < 100% and work in a way that it's gone at the right point. This can be tricky, especially with very long delays, because it's hard to precisely set the feedback level so it fades out at the right time in the future (which can be far into the future, remember the delay is up to 46s long!), and you can't adjust this feedback once you've switched to delay 2. 6. Actually, you can have a total of 4 delays playing at once: one algorithm "dual" has both a 23s and a 100ms delay - so by using two "dual" presets and the trailing delay trick, you can have two long and two shorts delay going at once. That's all I can think of right now - need to play with it some more ;) Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 18:08:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01D4F183494; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:08:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Jl9BLdQe2oAfL43zDcNRv0agfwAo6ppFS8B1jgGzs4Y=; b=GPYieH3ObXcW+STrbQvB1qCVzndQrMTd7ERmUBWTXE9umalsjPACmK5HV5qfRbc9Ao SAvTW3bsM0cXf3LabEvvur6kn/6POJvQR5znwd5yNS/sWY0NtkO1al87xPIqOYVPb30r FXV9Vnxa7zGRUaE8OmMBwYJWE4C8QxIXExnsU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=C/ECBNrk2yjFh1atlviDdooz0aOVtd5TPLJhhEmkeXJKhiiZywlGWZOrniF0TRVeLR moH6SSozTOq+jY5+pSXSozsIeGaP+W5jaqTToAD67A1MQ3Nksrm6HZUVMCnSxMCQKz0Y voKfdyV/UhXp//oEgrqyfEODAOwEqWZ5UREw0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D20858B.5030309@cruzio.com> References: <4D20858B.5030309@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:08:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 1st Roland Guitar Synth was: Re: Lovely From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:08:40 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Odd story, eh? Odd and totally nice! :-) I played in a jazz guitar duo in the early eighties and my buddy sometimes used his GR500. I tried it a couple of times but didn't like it as much as the Ibanez George Benson I had at that time. Have almost not seen a GR since then. Cool that you have one now! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 18:09:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0ABB183496; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6poLhAJVX8FD6c49R1zl7MY5uCDoADXKmnaW9puxnzA=; b=pxJg3MOjm5OyfcTBuxnb/MKCndOzmNlR+F0uDXMtIwjq6paurvgkevLvR0c8Hj7H92 3NPMUl89Rk//L3L66x/YGX32kjVUwtSon2a28k3bw1CYxNI9PaB3rg5JJUeVRKZutQ7J 0iqE/IBqh0nOxHz6uNlaKSKQ3N04ovu+NYfZI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fbBqY0wMCfbMy125wVteT3kaDHLzbrhCqDWXslXo+u4n0AUkGyLtvwjy9ijVparpwf FYqzafwok6GRNue9GuZ+VKRF72a9jCeRIhttq82ao3G5Bc+uZMHByD90MgYelEszy2os vkKSDBCupuWM0lX1eAYVd3mKWeMn6LgwawsHQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:09:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DD-20 (Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0K6FZD.A.-YE.y9LINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:09:54 +0000 (UTC) I'm guessing that was a typo, since the DD-20 only goes to 23 sec, unless you use the "dummy plug" trick for a 46 sec delay... Two DD-20's are definitely worth the price of admission...especially given the clock stability! Using them serially, with different loop lengths and delay types, can provide some great results. Or using them in parallel ... Surprisingly deep little boxes. Gute Rusch! ~Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > One thing I liked about it was the ability to truncate or lengthen the lo= op > on the fly. =A0Say you have a 28 sec delay going, you can chop it down to [SNIP] From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 18:30:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B65C618349B; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <1E5E6861-61F4-4434-B0FA-9E8F575220D7@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: LP-1: 1.34 or 1.37? Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:30:11 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:30:19 +0000 (UTC) > Current consensus is that 1.34c is the most stable, > with 1.37 being good for most users. Hey Andy, I can't remember if I asked you what your stability issues with 1.37 were. What were you doing to cause it to crash? So far I have some problems when recording a really short loop and then starting to mess with it with track speed and q replace, occasionally a false trigger will send the machine into self oscillation. Occasionally if I get too trigger happy using q replace the machine will take some time to finish all of the cycles, but thats more about me being careless with my technique. I still have somewhat of a volume issue where subsequent tracks I create seem to be progressively louder than the last ones I made, that doesn't seem to be caused by typical issues of playing louder to rise above an increasingly saturated soundscape. This issue I have been compensating for by being more conscious of how I'm attacking the instrument and how I use compression. There also seem to be the reoccurring issues of too many overdubs on a single track saturating and clipping the output, if feedback is set at 100%. Thoughts, reflections, insights?????? Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 18:35:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA5331834A5; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: 1st Roland Guitar Synth was: Re: Lovely From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D20858B.5030309@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:35:25 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D20858B.5030309@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:35:31 +0000 (UTC) The GR500 was my second electric guitar. It took the place of a = Telecaster. Mine had been rewired so that it could be used as a guitar without going = through the controller. I swapped it a while back with someone from the list in exchange for a = Steinberger Spirit bass guitar and some other stuff. Getting it packed = up was an interesting problem given its heft and given the poor quality = the case was in. For those of you with a copy of my CD, the first and last track were = recorded using the GR500 as just a guitar. As for using it as a synth, I'll repost a message from last year: > One of my early bits of recorded looping is all drifty on the actual = loop part (Roland GR-500 into Digitech RDS3600) but was built on top of = a drum pattern built out of several cycles of different lengths = carefully programmed into a Korg DDM-110 and DDM-220. The bass line was = also somewhat inspired by Terry Riley's In C in that that I wrote down a = series of figures and handed them to the bass player I was working with = and said play these in sequence at whatever rate of progression feels = right to you. I don't think he particularly appreciated trying to work = with the drum pattern, however. >=20 > http://grubmah.com/music/midnight_train.mp3 I liked the way the GR500 would lose pitch tracking at the end of a long = note. Mark On Jan 2, 2011, at 6:02 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Completely coincidentally, I know what this instrument is because I = happen > to have one for sale right at this moment and I discovered what it is = when > I researched it to try and find it's price. >=20 > it is the very first official guitar synth put out by Roland (the = Roland GR500) It has hexaphonic pickups > that are made from recording heads from tape decks. It also has a = proprietary chord > (which is missing) and a zillion buttons. It also ways a = ton......literally, by far the heaviest > guitar I've ever picked up. It also has several sheered off toggle = switches which work > and would be easily replaced. >=20 > http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/guitsyn.htm >=20 > I have it due to one of the > weirder encounters I've ever had. It's a longish story but I'll tell = it for anyone interested: >=20 >=20 >=20 > My wife and I walked down the street a couple of months back but after = the Looping Festival > and were stopped by a random elderly, well dressed lady. > She asked, "Are you a musician?" >=20 > I said, "yes" , a bit mystified as to how she came to that conclusion = (maybe the purple leather jacket). >=20 > and she said, > "I had tenants who left my home many years ago. They just left a bunch = of musical instruments when > they moved out and never came back for them. I've lost touch with them = over the years and > I've decided that I want to go on a long trip and think I've stored = them long enough. They're obviously > not coming back. Can you advise me how to get rid of them?" >=20 > I said, "Well, I'd put an ad on e-bay and sell them." >=20 > She said, "Well, I'm leaving at the start of next week so I don't want = to sell it, Can I just give them to you?" >=20 > I asked, "What do you have" and she said, "a pair of congas and a bass = guitar" >=20 > Amazingly, I had just started to teach a woman congas who didn't own a = set yet and I had a friend > who I used to play with in Noise Clinic, who wanted but did not own a = bass", so I thought > I'd just pass this good fortune on. >=20 > I was also really busy at the time so I said, > "Can I get your phone number and I'll have this woman call you who , = coincidentally, needs a set of congas?" >=20 > She said "Yes, thank you very much for you help." >=20 > I called my student and said, > "If you have time to go up an pick this equipment up for me, I'll give = you the congas for > free." >=20 > She said "Yes" >=20 > and at her next lesson, my student brought the congas, a bass guitar, = a really nice triple guitar stand > and this amazing relic. >=20 > I gave away the congas and the bass guitar and kept the guitar stand = and the > Roland Guitar synth. >=20 > I've been told it's worth a lot to a collector of such stuff which is = rare and probably not > very much otherwise. >=20 > It does have a hex pickup which would be very easy to rewire and it = could have some cool > possibilities. Someone told me that a guitar dealer that i know in = town has got the Roland Synth > unit that completes the package so I probably will head down to > see what he'll cough up for the interesting relic. >=20 > If not, I'll entertain any reasonable offer. >=20 > Odd story, eh? >=20 > Rick Walker >>=20 >> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 2:02 AM, ^|>^m = wrote: >>> Cool. Must be analogue synthesis with controls built into the = guitar >>> body(?) >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen = wrote: >>>> http://www.yle.fi/elavaarkisto/?s=3Dg=3D8&ag=EF=BF=BD&tT1&aG37 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 18:43:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 398ED1834AC; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:43:47 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <08E94B37-72B8-412D-83D5-CD58660F3C36@grubmah.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:43:49 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 2, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: > But, you do realize that it kinda puts the LP1 and EDP on the same = ground in > regard to MIDI controllers, right? I mean, in both cases, you can get = basic > functionality by using an ordinary PC-style MIDI pedal, but to get the = most > out of it, you need one that supports a bit more. In the case of the = EDP, > you need one that transmits MIDI in notes-mode or CC. For the LP1, = things > like the ability to fire off commands on pedal release or timed = commands. There was also a dedicated footswitch available for the EDP for a fairly = reasonable price. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 18:55:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7BB01834A9; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oIdi8VREerVZ1XtF1AZbWs/tHBH+StWEPZmCIOIGxNM=; b=AXAXTeWoXY7Rkg4NArfSxFKGgiyNdRGnR2huF2LHtS6+dpYFDslURESyGjhtBJLpLr 6OKWpTPsY+A4ZkKDDS2ErX45eUGOaM0NaqAnTdudOArwWurGjQF1CF1IrglHuski2DoF JGSn6KLENbdMP+YTx4aCOrHrpCk+abg9m1w8w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q1BIlfc7IkqmMpvhyBsmzwsUkzuTxuW/mxYv6fFaWZE2IxrEOAsR1pgkKXF8gw+zkq QwwPHkVXhM6q+yXUavUT4wPPHh1Zp+wX6zHIslAPD97IW3asy5JhEHDhLzw8c0+2pQxP ZNK8ZVkWjS/c8XmUoeJv9dU/gTgFawfaJ+4fg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6E5BA1B2-4509-4D09-B189-1B3163351372@baymoon.com> References: <6E5BA1B2-4509-4D09-B189-1B3163351372@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:55:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <06Yk5B.A.zpF.KoMINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:55:07 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 6:43 PM, William Walker wro= te: > So below are my bank presets and some insight if needed, in to why or how= I > use them. > Very interesting reading, Bill! My bank presets are quite similar. I too like to have a new track auto created with an empty loop of the same length as whatever is spinning on the selected track I'm coming from. But in Mobius you set that behavior as a global preference. I have been thinking of setting up a pedal for reassigning the track sync master status but not done it yet. In Mobius we have the global preference "Maximum/Minimum Tempo range" that protects you from arriving at a way too sloooow tempo if starting out with a very long loop (and vice versa) but I will need to reassign track sync master status to set a new global quantize cycle if I start out with a 34 bar first loop and then go to the next track and divide it down to one or two bars. Anyway, below is my Gordius Little Giant 2 preset list (copying/pasting from my back-up USB stick). Per __________________________________________ Per Boysen. Electroacoustic live electronics rig by december 2010. External controllers Gordious Little Giant 2 MIDI pedalboard and FaderFox Micromodul LV1 hand pad targeting Mobius hosted in Apple Mainstage 2. Mobius crippled to only four tracks. LG2: BANK 00: Mobius - basic looping. 1 Record 2 Overdub 3 Multiply 4 Substitute 5 Bass Dot 6 Wait Cycle Reverse Overdub 7 Undo 8 Redo 9 Previous Loop 10 Next Loop BANK 01: Mobius - direct loop 1-5 select, Time Warp scripts. 1 Loop 1 2 Loop 2 3 Loop 3 4 Loop 4 5 Loop 5 6 Time Warp 1 (speed shifting sequence during overdub) 7 Time Warp 2 (other speed shifting sequence during overdub) 8 Grid 1 (basic 16th SUS Substitute grid) 9 Grid 2 (grooved SUS Substitute grid) 10 Overdub BANK 02: Mobius - Rate Straight =E2=80=9Cfoot organ=E2=80=9D affecting sele= cted plus focus locked tracks. 1 Rate Shift 0 2 Rate Shift 2 3 Rate Shift 3 4 Rate Shift 4 5 Rate Shift 5 6 Rate Shift -5 7 Rate Shift -4 8 Rate Shift -3 9 Rate Shift -2 10 Global Mute (un-muting also re-aligns and re-triggers all playing loops) BANK 03: Mobius - Instant Loop Length manipulation, Chord Insert. 1 x2 2 x3 3 x4 4 Hit Chord: Minor 5 /2 6 /3 7 /4 8 Hit Chord: Major 9 Shuffle This (partly random slicing/reordering according to set 8ths Per Cycle value) 10 Hit Chord: Sus 4 BANK 04: Mobius - basic looping, Record Four Tracks In One Swoop. 1 Record Four Tracks In One Swoop (and Rate Shift them differently) 2 Overdub 3 Multiply 4 Substitute 5 Rate Shift 0, volume compensated, Retrigger All 6 Rate Straight 0, volume 95, Retrigger All 7 Undo 8 Redo 9 Previous Loop 10 Next Loop BANK 05: Mobius - Rate Shift =E2=80=9Cfoot organ=E2=80=9D affecting all fou= r tracks, volume compensated. 1 Rate Shift 0 2 Rate Shift 2 3 Rate Shift 3 4 Rate Shift 4 5 Rate Shift 5 6 Rate Shift -5 7 Rate Shift -4 8 Rate Shift -3 9 Rate Shift -2 10 Global Mute BANK 06: Mobius - Fade In Or Fade Out, Focus Lock direct track target. 1 Fade In Or Out Track 1 2 Fade In Or Out Track 2 3 Fade In Or Out Track 3 4 Fade In Or Out Track 4 5 Focus Lock Track 1 6 Focus Lock Track 2 7 Focus Lock Track 3 8 Focus Lock Track 4 9 Previous Loop 10 Next Loop BANK 07: Mobius - basic looping, variation. 1 Record 2 Overdub 3 Multiply 4 Substitute 5 Retrig All, Rate Shift 0 6 Start Point 7 Undo 8 Redo 9 Previous Track 10 Next Track BANK 08: Mainstage - FX pre looper, continuous and stomp box context. Freezing etc. For Chapman Stick Mainstage patches this bank is divided in two sides, controlling the two fretboard=E2=80=99s unique effect chains. When entering a new LG2 bank it instantly sends out a MIDI#cc for Mobius Max Feedback. Some switches reconfigure expression pedal programming. Expression pedal 1 mostly used for input volume, sometimes also to freeze sound at no input position. Expression pedal 2 always used for Mobius looper feedback. Faderfox LV1 handmixer and LX1 are doubling up some commands plus offering direct access to any loop on any track. I limit the looper to five loops per track and only four tracks. A hand fader for Secondary Feedback is important for the playing style I like. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 19:09:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 323C318349D; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <6E5BA1B2-4509-4D09-B189-1B3163351372@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:08:58 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0305EEE6-9BC2-4B45-993A-1263D69620CC@grubmah.com> References: <6E5BA1B2-4509-4D09-B189-1B3163351372@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <4Vh-hD.A.z-F.O1MINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:09:02 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:43 AM, William Walker wrote: > Preset #2 replace + track speed my go to preset when I = want to seamlessly change track pitch when replacing (either up or down = an octave) I also use this as standard replace in which I end the = command not with a second press of this switch but with my preset #1 = sync record/ overdub switch. Interesting. That's close to one of the things I've fought with a bit on = the LP1. I've felt like it's unpredictable as to whether it will come = out of Replace + mode into Overdub or just Play. Actually, in my = experiments this morning, it seems to be very predictable: It ends up in = Play. I have buttons for Rec/Dub and Replace+. I'm going to report results = here based on trusting that the lights are giving me the right feedback. = In all cases, I'm starting just in Play mode. [ Replace+ ] =3D> green light blinks, display says REPL+ =3D> [ = Replace+ ] =3D> green light steady, display says REPL+ -- This is more or less as expected [ Replace+ ] =3D> green light blinks, display says REPL+ =3D> [ = Rec/Dub ] =3D> back to playing (green light steady, timer counting) [ Rec/Dub ] =3D> overdubbing (green light blinks, timer counts) = =3D> [ Replace+ ] =3D> green light steady, display says REPL+ This is where my EDP modes thinking starts to come in because what I = want is to essentially have Play, Overdub, and Replace+ as modes that I = could switch between. If already in the mode, they would switch to a = secondary mode (e.g., Play goes to Stop), but if not in the mode they = would switch to the mode rather than just toggling state. But I see how for when using Replace in conjunction with the track speed = option it becomes rather interesting to use Rec/Dub as an alternative = exit since it doesn't then toggle the track speed back. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 19:24:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C260A183498; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7FC20DF2-A5E8-4C9B-A78D-EBDB06FE2B86@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:24:01 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Cool thanks Andy, i have 1.3 been stable for me. Noticed lately that if I have eight tracks going sometimes I lose midi control, keeps playing but no control, have to shut off lp1 hey Andy O, because there is no "buffer memory full" indicator, there is no way to tell if you are reaching maximum memory capacity, so it may just be that with all of those tracks recorded, plus tracks of various lengths and depending how the memory handles functions like replace and multiply you may have run out of available memory and the machine can't procees any more information. This happens to me on the occasion that I've been running loops for several hours without doing a complete all tracks erase, and doing a lot of replacing of tracks without ever completely clearing the memory and starting over again. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 19:26:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7719A1834B3; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <6E5BA1B2-4509-4D09-B189-1B3163351372@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:26:08 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <89074833-1074-4637-B0F2-55FEDE3DFB2E@grubmah.com> References: <6E5BA1B2-4509-4D09-B189-1B3163351372@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Thank you so much Bill for taking the time to walk through how you make = really productive use of the Looperlative. I don't know how it would = mate to an arbitrary MIDI controller, but the Looperlative would get a = big boost in out of the box experience if came with this sort of = standard set of commands. It does push for needing a controller with 12 buttons though maybe one = could segregate it into more smaller banks. Mark On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:43 AM, William Walker wrote: > I thought I would show you all a typical bank of my LP-1 presets. I = currently have 6 full banks of twelve preset switches each and two = expression pedals globally set to volume and feedback which can control = either all tracks, a single track or groups of tracks depending on how i = set it up. Eventually I may add a third expression pedal to control = track speed or panning but for now I don't really need it. So below are = my bank presets and some insight if needed, in to why or how I use them. >=20 > Preset #1 sync record/overdub pretty self = explanatory.... >=20 > Preset #2 replace + track speed my go to preset when I = want to seamlessly change track pitch when replacing (either up or down = an octave) I also use this as standard replace in which I end the = command not with a second press of this switch but with my preset #1 = sync record/ overdub switch. >=20 > preset #3 play stop now I use this more to arm a new track to be the = same length as the original track and then I use the replace function to = actually add new content. Again if you have recorded a first track and = you go to a new track and press play stop, it will arm that track to the = same length as the first track so when I do start to actually record on = that track, its length is pre determined by the first loop. Does that = make sense? >=20 > preset #4 Quantize replace this is a sus style command achieved by = doubling up to functions on one preset in this case quantize replace. In = order to achieve a sus style command one needs to duplicate the function = on a preset, so if you look at my first command its quantize replace = followed by another quantize replace. I assume this can be achieved by = duplicating other functions as well but I haven't delved that deeply yet = in to those options. >=20 > Preset #5 half speed I often times arm a track at half speed = before beginning a new loop >=20 > Preset #6 Replace/half speed/ reverse where did those weird violins = from hell come from??? this preset >=20 > Preset #7 All tracks this is the command I hit before ending a song = with a feedback reduction fade or a stop, I probably could just use the = front panel command but I like to keep my hands free for playing. >=20 > Preset #8 Set as Master I keep this handy because I sometimes like = to start with a long rubato melody before moving to shorter rhythm based = tracks. I'll record a long loop, move to a new track and hit the set as = master button. This is also cool to use for me because i have different = quantize values set for different tracks so if I want to use a quantize = value of 9 (to create a 9/8 beat) I start recording on track three where = I've placed that beat division. >=20 > Preset #9 Multiply in my case double, no explanation needed?? >=20 > Preset #10 Erase/feedback 100% whenever I erase a track or all = tracks I want to make sure that everything is back to 100% feedback, as = I'm constantly changing the feedback in real time with the pedal and I = don't want a new track fading away accidently because the last time I = was on the track I had changed the feedback >=20 > Preset #11 track next >=20 > preset #12 previous track. >=20 >=20 > I have other banks set up to achieve more complex ABC song forms , = which I can describe when I get my LP-1 in front of me because the = scripts are pretty long. one bank for some of the mellotron style pitch = shifting, one bank dedicated to bounce functions, one bank the has = multiple press functions like quantize replace/track speed/reverse In = which I have to double up all three of those commands to get a sus style = pedal action. > example that preset would look something like this: quantize = replace-half speed-reverse-quantize replace-half speed- reverse > Other functions I use in no particular order on other banks are: sync = bounce, copy, except track, q replace+ track speed, 1/4 speed, and = midi sync record overdub, if I'm tracking to an external clock, and fast = scramble. I haven't done much experimenting in a while to discover new = strategies but I think there is still a lot of undiscovered territory = left to explore. > Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 19:35:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE1F61834BB; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <7FC20DF2-A5E8-4C9B-A78D-EBDB06FE2B86@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:35:28 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5CE39A41-7D75-481B-9346-D92C978F116E@grubmah.com> References: <7FC20DF2-A5E8-4C9B-A78D-EBDB06FE2B86@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <-ZRzD.A.9oG.CONINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:35:30 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 2, 2011, at 11:24 AM, William Walker wrote: > hey Andy O, because there is no "buffer memory full" indicator, = there is no way to tell if you are reaching maximum memory capacity, so = it may just be that with all of those tracks recorded, plus tracks of = various lengths and depending how the memory handles functions like = replace and multiply you may have run out of available memory and the = machine can't procees any more information. This happens to me on the = occasion that I've been running loops for several hours without doing a = complete all tracks erase, and doing a lot of replacing of tracks = without ever completely clearing the memory and starting over again. Replace+ mode also seemed to be how I would tend to get the LP-1 to lock = up and become unresponsive to the controls to the point where I would = have to power cycle it. That hasn't happened to me for a while, however. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 19:49:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47C6B1834C4; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: DD-20 (Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:48:58 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:49:01 +0000 (UTC) For someone who is as hands on with their equipment as you are Rick, it = seems like a pair of DD-20's plus the SL-20 could make for a rather = interesting way of building and manipulating textures. But I haven't = used either pedal, so I can't speak from experience. I've certainly been = tempted to try this but I would probably want to convince myself that I = could do enough just using my feet. And at that point, I probably would = be better off using one of my exiting loop boxes and possibly an SL-20 = since I could get MIDI sync going that way. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 20:12:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43D4D18349D; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: DD-20 (Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:12:44 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8C161D69-69D6-4684-857F-3022D28CF7CF@grubmah.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <63JOP.A.CcH._wNINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:12:47 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 2, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > For someone who is as hands on with their equipment as you are Rick, = it seems like a pair of DD-20's plus the SL-20 could make for a rather = interesting way of building and manipulating textures. But I haven't = used either pedal, so I can't speak from experience. I've certainly been = tempted to try this but I would probably want to convince myself that I = could do enough just using my feet. And at that point, I probably would = be better off using one of my exiting loop boxes and possibly an SL-20 = since I could get MIDI sync going that way. That said, for an a loop + effects box the Line6 M13 or M9 is also = pretty attractive though the loop itself is mono. So, one question would be: How cool is the SL-20? (And a related = question might be: How does it compare to the Adrenalinn?) Mark P.S. I too think Roland often does some amazing stuff that then seems to = just miss the mark in some way. An example from several years back: The SP-808 and HPD-15 share similar = effects. (Presumably there's a library of effects algorithms floating = around at Roland.) Like the SP-808, the HPD-15 also has three knobs and = a D-Beam controller. But can you do realtime effects manipulations with = the HPD-15 the way you can with the SP-808? No. Grrr. Realtime effects = manipulation plus a good live MIDI looper in place of the somewhat lame = sequence recorder would have made the Handsonic a pretty cool = instrument. I swear off Roland equipment periodically and then find myself getting = sucked back in. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 20:20:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A8B6183496; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <12EF8A4042C84D149D2FC0769536B8CE@boo6e771026609> From: "boost" To: References: <8C161D69-69D6-4684-857F-3022D28CF7CF@grubmah.com> Subject: Hardware Midi Looper Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:20:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110102-0, 02/01/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 16004385701656379058 X-Ovh-Remote: 81.220.38.49 (ip-49.net-81-220-38.lyon.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Does this exist ? i mean a looper that process not audio but midi informations. i have drummachines like mpc or electribe but all i can do with it is just record and overdub. thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 20:29:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 143AE1834BB; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A3aDmzS2k7mczgIM2Gw7bOjz1ZxufZN8JVWP9wL0lY0=; b=KMfut8yhqHWOw8iUuO/c2PZsfVX68fF4w2J1W04iPeuvt/bA2mJBU+lGdl7xTy/jjB K93UXql/Q6go+a9Ei1c9kH2bkHfNFKh8YH7Su9o7ZeFhX6AQyQeaudfaD8LL4tGOPb/V k7POxowRJeIUgmn0+WH35qKVoJIqzQEPWE4aA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vqS9sdTX0EyRzKk1PIPnM5sWtwu+s4OtLXCxeBp7UM08aNVVUzCdVKQEwidRhzlvXf QtaZr3Du6xaqEGj8JSRgxVK1jJXEVWejgOR75Oeshhlr3vCipTgHHVB6KCPeVPDHNjlF AAW2p8sa5PZWrFxkpSpUiFbgq+DGEJ+A4AdUQ= Message-ID: <4D20E00E.4050300@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 21:29:02 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hardware Midi Looper References: <8C161D69-69D6-4684-857F-3022D28CF7CF@grubmah.com> <12EF8A4042C84D149D2FC0769536B8CE@boo6e771026609> In-Reply-To: <12EF8A4042C84D149D2FC0769536B8CE@boo6e771026609> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:29:08 +0000 (UTC) boost schrieb: > Does this exist ? i mean a looper that process not audio but midi > informations. > i have drummachines like mpc or electribe but all i can do with it is > just record and overdub. > thanks I meant to write about this little conundrum for some time, but discussing this here is even better. Here's how I see that: It's not possible (without a very complex setup) the way we know it, because of overdub. You would basically need to go to a new MIDI channel for every overdub. Some things would work differently (e.g. reverse). Rate and pitch shifts in intervals different from semitone steps would be a little bit tricky. But yes, what are the available implementations for that? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 20:44:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AF0F1834C0; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Hardware Midi Looper From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D20E00E.4050300@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:44:26 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <8C161D69-69D6-4684-857F-3022D28CF7CF@grubmah.com> <12EF8A4042C84D149D2FC0769536B8CE@boo6e771026609> <4D20E00E.4050300@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Generalized MIDI looping is hard because of a mismatch in the data. But lots of sequencers show that overdubbing can work either to add = notes or to add/replace controller information. So, I would expect a basic MIDI looper to offer on the fly loop length = control, loop doubling/multiply, overdub using essentially the existing = approaches, and either undo/redo or multiple undo. Add in the ability to = save loops and switch between saved loops, and it seems like it could be = pretty useful with various instruments. One could also optimize for monophonic instruments by treating the = currently playing note essentially the same way continuous controllers = are treated. This could be fun with the current crop of mono analog = synths. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 21:02:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E5F71834C0; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:02:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 550281853/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwCANN2IE1YbRSa/2dsb2JhbAAMlgvJQYVKBI4V X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,264,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="550281853" Message-ID: <4D20E7DC.3050901@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 21:02:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP-1: 1.34 or 1.37? References: <1E5E6861-61F4-4434-B0FA-9E8F575220D7@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <1E5E6861-61F4-4434-B0FA-9E8F575220D7@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:02:21 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: >> Current consensus is that 1.34c is the most stable, >> with 1.37 being good for most users. > > > Hey Andy, > > I can't remember if I asked you what your stability issues with 1.37 > were. What were you doing to cause it to crash? So far I have some > problems when recording a really short loop and then starting to mess > with it with track speed and q replace, occasionally a false trigger > will send the machine into self oscillation. I don't remember exactly, but what I was working on was a creating a number short loops out of the initial one using bounce. The idea was set up 4 short loops to be rapidly re=triggered. I'm trying to talk Rick into the idea that the LP1 can already do a proportion the stuff he's asking for, certainly enough to be impressive. > I still have somewhat of a volume issue where subsequent > tracks I create seem to be progressively louder than the last ones I > made, that doesn't seem to be caused by typical issues of playing > louder to rise above an increasingly saturated soundscape. Check that you're seeing LVL+0 for every Track when you hit it's select button. The thing about tending to play louder to rise above the increasingly saturated soundscape does seem to be harder to overcome when there's a lot of parallel loops available, especially compared to overdubbing on a single loop, where most loopers automatically drop the feedback level to 95% or so. I guess you know the obvious fixes, but here they are anyway... If you're using the LP1 as an Insert effect there doesn't appear to be any way to set the level of the dry signal, so only thing to do is turn down the volume of every track. If your using it on a send and return then just use the mixer to boost the dry signal, or drop the level of the return from the LP1 just a shade. > This issue I > have been compensating for by being more conscious of how I'm attacking > the instrument and how I use compression. There also seem to be the > reoccurring issues of too many overdubs on a single track saturating and > clipping the output, if feedback is set at 100%. It's usual in a looping device to automatically drop FB below 100% when overdubbing. If you're anxious for a fix then isn't there a way to program feedback levels in v1.37 ?(there's not in 1.34c which is what I have) Might be worth investing some prime time with your friend the Gordius Little Giant. > Thoughts, reflections, insights?????? > Bill The Looperlative LP1 doesn't have a lot of audio headroom at line level, but it does have a very nice low noise floor. So one thing to look into is dropping the level of signals going into the LP1, and boosting those coming out to compensate. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 21:21:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB5531834AB; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D20EC57.8010509@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:21:27 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dustbunnies CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:21:35 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: > Anyway, thanks for the background on the EDP control functionality. Now if > I can just get somebody to explain to me in plain English what 'Loop > Windowing' is, mebbe I can figure out how to get the LP1 to do that. ;D Alas, Loop Windowing is one of the coolest things that the EDP does (imho) and is not possible in the LP-1. I'll probably mangle this, but my understanding is that 'Loop Windowing' was a bug that people deemed fascinating so they left it in (I can't remember who was it's champion but I imagine it was either Andy Butler or , perhaps, Andre LaFosse--- historians, please weigh in here with accuracy, my mind is very fuzzy and I want to give credit where credit is due). As I remember, and it's been a while, if you change the length of the original loop, the machine keeps the original loop in it's buffer though all of it is not being played. Consequently, when one hits an undo, it will move the newly truncated loop length forward (or is it backwards) through the original loop in the buffer. This can be used in very beautiful ways and has been by Andre, Andy and many, many others (even moi). It has a morphing effect that is very hip. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 21:29:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C3091834A0; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=P6s1FnzA8f0fXPUQkV+0rt/DmyDfZLR+GQk9iKfo4R0=; b=NZpWVbroDtMS3LMovHjWSIt0ugiqHO4i+OrypwS1WChX5LaHsgB78fYfULvueYuogr 2tXPP4e/nsx48Cdrs+Mup0pIG6Msjf6cSVEva5Vl2qy5MrBV9UaSJG+y08LZkhewZ48J +z+rTtHLeeJ4/cAul+miX9LX1rasHbFyw9RH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rlpGdjiKYzrptTq8t2s5frTiAesQ6JMN26I0GgBqGMKci9X4vExUvKs2oOsELJeWX3 U29Qka6MUXDDQ/hrAWVdUSG2xS83AwjKO+1eHKPzxKW1C78W1ReAClTp0UkYRlQUarG/ w43FaZrB4TnsVuwPGyIP2N4sRp8EMEMbAsrKE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <12EF8A4042C84D149D2FC0769536B8CE@boo6e771026609> References: <8C161D69-69D6-4684-857F-3022D28CF7CF@grubmah.com> <12EF8A4042C84D149D2FC0769536B8CE@boo6e771026609> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:29:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hardware Midi Looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-VFG1.A.FWB.J5OINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:29:45 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:20 PM, boost wrote: > Does this exist ? i mean a looper that process not audio but midi > informations. > i have drummachines like mpc or electribe but all i can do with it is just > record and overdub. I only know about software applications that might be described as "MIDI looping". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 21:35:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB2A31834CA; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D20EFB6.3000103@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:35:50 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative References: <4D2097A2.1040704@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D2097A2.1040704@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:35:56 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > > I'm thinking "no way is he gonna do that on the LP1", but I hope you'll > see that as a challenge. My thoughts exactly.........he says, conspiratorially. Happy New Year, Senor programming genius and 'knower' of most things. love, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 21:41:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B02C1834D2; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D20F10D.1050400@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:41:33 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Walker CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative and me References: <6E5BA1B2-4509-4D09-B189-1B3163351372@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <6E5BA1B2-4509-4D09-B189-1B3163351372@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Wow, thanks, Bro. I just learned a butt load about my own LP-1 from that description. I've gotten trouble a few times because my feedback had been changed mid song. The erase/feedback 100% trick is worth it's weight in gold to me. I can't believe I didn't figure it out, but you always lead the way. thanks, Rick On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > I thought I would show you all a typical bank of my LP-1 presets. I > currently have 6 full banks of twelve preset switches each and two > expression pedals globally set to volume and feedback which can > control either all tracks, a single track or groups of tracks > depending on how i set it up. Eventually I may add a third expression > pedal to control track speed or panning but for now I don't really > need it. So below are my bank presets and some insight if needed, in > to why or how I use them. > > Preset #1 sync record/overdub pretty self > explanatory.... > > Preset #2 replace + track speed my go to preset when I > want to seamlessly change track pitch when replacing (either up or > down an octave) I also use this as standard replace in which I end the > command not with a second press of this switch but with my preset #1 > sync record/ overdub switch. > > preset #3 play stop now I use this more to arm a new track to be the > same length as the original track and then I use the replace function > to actually add new content. Again if you have recorded a first track > and you go to a new track and press play stop, it will arm that track > to the same length as the first track so when I do start to actually > record on that track, its length is pre determined by the first loop. > Does that make sense? > > preset #4 Quantize replace this is a sus style command achieved by > doubling up to functions on one preset in this case quantize replace. > In order to achieve a sus style command one needs to duplicate the > function on a preset, so if you look at my first command its quantize > replace followed by another quantize replace. I assume this can be > achieved by duplicating other functions as well but I haven't delved > that deeply yet in to those options. > > Preset #5 half speed I often times arm a track at half speed > before beginning a new loop > > Preset #6 Replace/half speed/ reverse where did those weird violins > from hell come from??? this preset > > Preset #7 All tracks this is the command I hit before ending a song > with a feedback reduction fade or a stop, I probably could just use > the front panel command but I like to keep my hands free for playing. > > Preset #8 Set as Master I keep this handy because I sometimes like > to start with a long rubato melody before moving to shorter rhythm > based tracks. I'll record a long loop, move to a new track and hit the > set as master button. This is also cool to use for me because i have > different quantize values set for different tracks so if I want to use > a quantize value of 9 (to create a 9/8 beat) I start recording on > track three where I've placed that beat division. > > Preset #9 Multiply in my case double, no explanation needed?? > > Preset #10 Erase/feedback 100% whenever I erase a track or all > tracks I want to make sure that everything is back to 100% feedback, > as I'm constantly changing the feedback in real time with the pedal > and I don't want a new track fading away accidently because the last > time I was on the track I had changed the feedback > > Preset #11 track next > > preset #12 previous track. > > > I have other banks set up to achieve more complex ABC song forms , > which I can describe when I get my LP-1 in front of me because the > scripts are pretty long. one bank for some of the mellotron style > pitch shifting, one bank dedicated to bounce functions, one bank the > has multiple press functions like quantize replace/track speed/reverse > In which I have to double up all three of those commands to get a sus > style pedal action. > example that preset would look something like this: quantize > replace-half speed-reverse-quantize replace-half speed- reverse > Other functions I use in no particular order on other banks are: > sync bounce, copy, except track, q replace+ track speed, 1/4 speed, > and midi sync record overdub, if I'm tracking to an external clock, > and fast scramble. I haven't done much experimenting in a while to > discover new strategies but I think there is still a lot of > undiscovered territory left to explore. > Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 23:32:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B99CE1834BD; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 23:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RsYUoQoWVmDh6NboZTzTmvd45C3tLZUSc7BUdRvwTbQ=; b=tV8i6yeg96AAjf/+uokACh8Ty5oN1xIcR6Zxit3QGHPt3kESHD1nr7h5Hjnu1VoIN6 mQqRqlzUKYO3Md7fwm5ELUoBTJobKsH/WHDr8ntbxAkMhIodEVwqMKNz1Gr0xF+3qrGZ Has6tf3jKRe7msx3JllGF6helGoGCQtjG0oDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e03CUqGWCVnFoNKsVxTB7jRi+WZeQ0o1HQHxHQ4/lGcElak/AXMkeA3aH/QlD1IlwM vlNcg5RM358sEzBlQwdzEi0Uq4xYq0cgd+ATRAFw5xPVVeUAYSp7o7I3RDzvMmqLTue9 srCV1zLHL/bcWNN7J6Dy00/69hUwy0oMqypO8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:32:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Midi question for live setup From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549e0bef73870498e5715d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 23:32:14 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549e0bef73870498e5715d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I finally got around to doing this project and it worked out great! I already had a Boss FS-6 footswitch in my closet that I gutted and put the midi cpu from highly liquid in. I drilled the holes for the 1/4" jacks a little larger in the back to fit midi plugs and now I have really small silent midi foot controller with 2 footswitches that I can program to send exactly the midi commands I want and nothing else! I also learned a lot in the proces of doing this project. Thanks again Slyvain for pointing me in this direction! -Todd Matthews On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > I'd get myself one of those: > http://highlyliquid.com/midi-controllers/midi-cpu/ > > Solder a switch, some midi in out plugs and a 9v battery plug. Put it > in a box and program through sysex. A nice little weekend project. > > Maybe it's overkill (or over priced), but you'll have a very small > footswitch that does what you need of it. > > Sylvain > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Todd Matthews > wrote: > > I want to be able to send the midi note on/off message for the note E1. > This > > will allow me to mute and unmute my instrument mic on channel 1 of my > mixer. > > Anybody know of a really efficient way to accomplish this in a live > setup? A > > single programmable footswitch that can do midi notes with a midi out > jack > > would have the smallest footprint. For my M9 - Rang 3 setup I don't need > any > > other functions other than to send the note E1 to be able to mute/mute my > > mic that goes directly into the mixer. I'm using my rme fireface as the > > mixer but in standalone mode so its not hooked up to a computer. It can > be > > controlled by midi in mackie emulation mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > --20cf30549e0bef73870498e5715d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I finally got around to doing this project and it worked out great! I alrea= dy had a Boss FS-6 footswitch in my closet that I gutted and put the midi c= pu from highly liquid in. I drilled the holes for the 1/4" jacks a lit= tle larger in the back to fit midi plugs and now I have really small silent= midi foot controller with 2 footswitches that I can program to send exactl= y the midi commands I want and nothing else! I also learned a lot in the pr= oces of doing this project.

Thanks again Slyvain for pointing me in this direction!
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-Todd Matthews

On Tue, Nov= 16, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wr= ote:
I'd get myself one of those: http= ://highlyliquid.com/midi-controllers/midi-cpu/

Solder a switch, some midi in out plugs and a 9v battery plug. =A0Put it in a box and program through sysex. =A0A nice little weekend project.

Maybe it's overkill (or over priced), but you'll have a very small<= br> footswitch that does what you need of it.

Sylvain


On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
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> controlled by midi in mackie emulation mode.
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--20cf30549e0bef73870498e5715d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 2 23:45:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BBC81834B7; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 23:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4542FC0B-730B-46B9-AE0F-8F32DD4CED49@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:45:48 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> References: <20110102025745.D3ECE18344A@hemlock.violacea.com> <714CAD76-E3CB-4B75-94C1-193AA7C42AD8@me.com> <4542FC0B-730B-46B9-AE0F-8F32DD4CED49@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 23:45:51 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 1, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > I gather Dustbunnies manages to get SUS-style operations on the LP-1, = but it seems to depend on having a "decent" (his words) MIDI controller = since it would seem to depend on having a controller that will send note = on or program change messages on pedal release. That's cool, but the EDP = is loaded with SUS-style and other long-press based behaviors and works = with a range of controllers. (It could be that I've just been mislead by = the LP-1 manual's references to pressing as opposed to releasing buttons = when programming MIDI controllers.) I had entirely missed the momentary buttons portion of the Looperlative = (I don't think it's mentioned in my user manual). So, first of all: Cool that the Looperlative can exploit SUS commands if = only for a Replace and Replace+Original -- though interestingly not = QReplace. Second: Yes, this requires the same sort of controller support as the = EDP (though as I noted, the EDP also just works with its standard = footpedal). Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 00:18:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B3A418349C; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9BE90001-51C3-47F1-90E1-A18E2B72748A@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Per's Mobius patches Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:18:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Hey Per this is really cool, a lot of stuff that I do and some I =20 don't I like the Time warp idea. whats up with that????? Is this =20 similar to what I do manually toggling track speed when in record or =20= replace to create odd meters or octave leaps, but in automated =20 form???????? Also its weird but I never use fade, started to, but =20 stopped in favor of good old fashion feedback reduction to fade =20 traclks away. I realize it gives my stuff less predictability when it =20= comes to song form but I have come to love the constant state of =20 evolution this strategy enables. Thanks Bill PS the fader fox thingy is really cool Per Boysen. Electroacoustic live electronics rig by december 2010. External controllers Gordious Little Giant 2 MIDI pedalboard and FaderFox Micromodul LV1 hand pad targeting Mobius hosted in Apple Mainstage 2. Mobius crippled to only four tracks. LG2: BANK 00: Mobius - basic looping. 1 Record 2 Overdub 3 Multiply 4 Substitute 5 Bass Dot 6 Wait Cycle Reverse Overdub 7 Undo 8 Redo 9 Previous Loop 10 Next Loop BANK 01: Mobius - direct loop 1-5 select, Time Warp scripts. 1 Loop 1 2 Loop 2 3 Loop 3 4 Loop 4 5 Loop 5 6 Time Warp 1 (speed shifting sequence during overdub) 7 Time Warp 2 (other speed shifting sequence during overdub) 8 Grid 1 (basic 16th SUS Substitute grid) 9 Grid 2 (grooved SUS Substitute grid) 10 Overdub BANK 02: Mobius - Rate Straight =93foot organ=94 affecting selected plus focus locked tracks. 1 Rate Shift 0 2 Rate Shift 2 3 Rate Shift 3 4 Rate Shift 4 5 Rate Shift 5 6 Rate Shift -5 7 Rate Shift -4 8 Rate Shift -3 9 Rate Shift -2 10 Global Mute (un-muting also re-aligns and re-triggers all playing =20 loops) BANK 03: Mobius - Instant Loop Length manipulation, Chord Insert. 1 x2 2 x3 3 x4 4 Hit Chord: Minor 5 /2 6 /3 7 /4 8 Hit Chord: Major 9 Shuffle This (partly random slicing/reordering according to set 8ths Per Cycle value) 10 Hit Chord: Sus 4 BANK 04: Mobius - basic looping, Record Four Tracks In One Swoop. 1 Record Four Tracks In One Swoop (and Rate Shift them differently) 2 Overdub 3 Multiply 4 Substitute 5 Rate Shift 0, volume compensated, Retrigger All 6 Rate Straight 0, volume 95, Retrigger All 7 Undo 8 Redo 9 Previous Loop 10 Next Loop BANK 05: Mobius - Rate Shift =93foot organ=94 affecting all four tracks, volume compensated. 1 Rate Shift 0 2 Rate Shift 2 3 Rate Shift 3 4 Rate Shift 4 5 Rate Shift 5 6 Rate Shift -5 7 Rate Shift -4 8 Rate Shift -3 9 Rate Shift -2 10 Global Mute BANK 06: Mobius - Fade In Or Fade Out, Focus Lock direct track target. 1 Fade In Or Out Track 1 2 Fade In Or Out Track 2 3 Fade In Or Out Track 3 4 Fade In Or Out Track 4 5 Focus Lock Track 1 6 Focus Lock Track 2 7 Focus Lock Track 3 8 Focus Lock Track 4 9 Previous Loop 10 Next Loop BANK 07: Mobius - basic looping, variation. 1 Record 2 Overdub 3 Multiply 4 Substitute 5 Retrig All, Rate Shift 0 6 Start Point 7 Undo 8 Redo 9 Previous Track 10 Next Track BANK 08: Mainstage - FX pre looper, continuous and stomp box context. Freezing etc. For Chapman Stick Mainstage patches this bank is divided in two sides, controlling the two fretboard=92s unique effect chains. When entering a new LG2 bank it instantly sends out a MIDI#cc for Mobius Max Feedback. Some switches reconfigure expression pedal programming. Expression pedal 1 mostly used for input volume, sometimes also to freeze sound at no input position. Expression pedal 2 always used for Mobius looper feedback. Faderfox LV1 handmixer and LX1 are doubling up some commands plus offering direct access to any loop on any track. I limit the looper to five loops per track and only four tracks. A hand fader for Secondary Feedback is important for the playing style I like. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 01:16:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6D96183457; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 01:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative References: <20110102025745.D3ECE18344A@hemlock.violacea.com> <714CAD76-E3CB-4B75-94C1-193AA7C42AD8@me.com> <4542FC0B-730B-46B9-AE0F-8F32DD4CED49@grubmah.com> <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> Message-ID: <28929712-B72A-480D-8A59-0DB4CC9FD143@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:15:44 -0500 To: thread-topic: The EDP and the Looperlative Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thread-index: Acuq4+Ygz0kx6XpTQtmJ42MtEISO0Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2011 01:16:51.0196 (UTC) FILETIME=[E684EBC0:01CBAAE3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 01:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Mark et al, Its interesting, this discussion mainly beginningly started about out of the= box functionality. One thing its made me think about is that when I got my L= P1, I had no clue, but having to get a midibuddy or something to use it made= me much more flexible in making my controls do what "I" wanted them to do. A= rtistically it opened me up much more to what I could do with the unit. Had I= started with basic commands, I likely wouldnt have explored the live record= ing options that I have.=20 Having said that, also its cool to see that the fact that the lp1 programmin= g leads to growth and aha moments like Rick just had, by seeing someone else= s setup, and he being one of the more advanced lp1 users out there.=20 Pretty cool.=20 No need to compare these thoughts to the edp, my edp experience is even less= than your lp1 experience!! Andy O= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 02:02:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F0EE183454; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 02:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0BRkwp102nMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=43vJ7Z-HX2wzSroG8rUA:9 a=p80fmXwWLF8MsZ2bpzoA:7 a=defdthA0Ls-W_8VM05ip1Ivr2xEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D1FF2A6.4050901@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Y2K11 International Live Looping Festival Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:02:21 -0800 References: <4D1FF2A6.4050901@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 02:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, Congratulations, and happy 2011!!! I think you need a break in order to be "selfish" and focus on your own art (and possibly finances) for a while. You've given, and given, and given . . . both you and Brother Bill . . . and spouses too. I'm glad to hear that Y2K-11 may happen yet. But, I am gladdest to hear that you are not succumbing to pressure to simply do it all over again (yourself) and are handing out large hunks of the work to others. Of course I could play my very tiny, tiny little part with "graphic stuff" again, (if needed). But I see an opportunity here to let someone else try their hand at that too. I know there are other graphical/marketing pros (or semi-pros) on this list - and gosh Santa Cruz is teeming with creative folk. Perhaps it's my turn to step aside as well. I hope 2011 turns out to be everything you hope it to be my friend. Both you and Bill and Chris and Nancy are special people to me. I am posting all of the above to the LD list even though it will probably sound too personal and syrupy and embarrass us both. Anyhoo, here's to the best year ever. Cheers! Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 04:25:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5A08183457; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 04:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:24:55 +0900 Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: The EDP and the Looperlative Thread-Index: Acuq/iww8LR2ftFGRkKtajBssS8zoQ== In-Reply-To: <4D2097A2.1040704@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <84S_f.A.nZB.b-UINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 04:25:00 +0000 (UTC) On 1/3/11 12:20 AM, "andy butler" wrote: > Dustbunnies wrote: > >> Now if >> I can just get somebody to explain to me in plain English what 'Loop >> Windowing' is, mebbe I can figure out how to get the LP1 to do that. ;D > > It's all to do with how the edp handles memory, > in some ways very similar to the "Frippertronics" type thing > where the whole performance is committed to tape. > > Each time you do an overdub, the EDP moves forward through > memory by a loop length. > So, to "Undo" an overdub (or several) the playback point just > moves back in memory. If I understand you correctly, the basic architecture on the EDP doesn't appear really so much different from that of the Wavetable synths of the 80's & early 90's (PPG, Korg Wavestation, Kawaii K1 etc.), with the most notable exception being that those instruments' memories were hard-burned into ROM rather than being freely writable (which I'm not trying to minimize the importance of, BTW, so don't get me wrong here). So each successive overdub actually results in a brand new recording of the original material, re-recorded and merged with the new overdubbed material. This new recording is then appended to the end of the memory stack. If you were to graphically map out a memory dump of a recorded line (original recording: OR, here) with two overdub sessions (OD1 & OD2), then the memory map might look something like: [|-------OR-------||-----OR+OD1-----||---OR+OD1+OD2---|] And now you just move the Start/End pointers so that a different section of memory is playing, depending upon how many "layers"/sections have been Undone. Now, for Loop Windowing using the above example (if I'm reading correctly), you'd multiply out to x3, then do something and Undo. This would cause the entire memory above to spool out from start to finish (first the OR section, then OR+OD1, then OR+OD1+OD2). Of course, x3 matches up nicely with what we have above, so I'm assuming it gets more interesting if you don't have an even multiple of the memory contents. Before getting too far further, do I have that basic part correct? > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/backwater.mp3 > ...loop window opens at 2:00 (always really liked that particular track of yours, BTW.) I'm gonna have to go back and listen a coupla more times, I think. Or else I'm just dim (which is a definite possibility) and don't know what to listen for here. I'll try again, though. > I'm thinking "no way is he gonna do that on the LP1", but I hope you'll > see that as a challenge. Heh! That's like the old joke: "I'll give you $100, if for the next 30 seconds you *don't* think about the color green". And with both you & Rick egging me on... Sheesh, I'm doomed. ;) I've already got an idea or two, but just want to make certain I've got the process correct. If the above example is true, then the basic memory operation is simpler than I thought it was, and most of the creativity comes out of finding different ways to "break" it. That's always the fun part. Thanks again for the help, Andy!!! :) --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 06:29:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4718B183459; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 06:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D216CAA.7000207@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:28:58 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Hamburg CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: DD-20 (Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9L5-I.A.FKE.zyWINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 06:29:07 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > For someone who is as hands on with their equipment as you are Rick, it seems like a pair of DD-20's plus the SL-20 could make for a rather interesting way of building and manipulating textures. It's funny, but I have never gotten that deeply into using delay. As a percussionist, I decided early on not to put tons of energy into three instruments: the congas, the djembe and the tablas for the reason that they were so popular that I reasoned it would be difficult to create a truly unique voice on the instrument. I think due to the ubiquity of digital delay in our own community, I've had the same approach. In the same breath, reading about the DD-20 has me curious. As fate would have it, money is unbelievably tight since the recession and the last looping festival so I'd have to sell a lot of equipment before I can buy even one of them. Also, I'm just in love with distortion and fuzz and string instruments, lately so my world is overfull. this is the first year that I've actually felt like some kind of guitarist. I've always wanted to play and always been intimidated by it. But I actually jumped in and play plucked string instruments more than any other instrument in my life right now and I'm in love with it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 06:31:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38FF6183457; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 06:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D216D2F.6070800@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:31:11 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Hamburg CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: DD-20 (Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) References: <8C161D69-69D6-4684-857F-3022D28CF7CF@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <8C161D69-69D6-4684-857F-3022D28CF7CF@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 06:31:18 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > That said, for an a loop + effects box the Line6 M13 or M9 is also pretty attractive though the loop itself is mono. > > So, one question would be: How cool is the SL-20? (And a related question might be: How does it compare to the Adrenalinn?) Honestly for me, the M9 is THE desert island processing/looper because it's an entire world with all of it's myriadly cool effects. And for the SL-20, we've already had long discussions about this unit and how cool it is so you can find it in the archives so I don't bore people with another glowing review. It's limited but I love it. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 06:43:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B5BC183459; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 06:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:43:35 +0900 Subject: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) Thread-Index: AcurEYtMSFLcC80PTQe7LHoyHcAYOw== In-Reply-To: <4D20BBA8.8010006@googlemail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3mstSD.A.YjE.cAXINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 06:43:40 +0000 (UTC) On 1/3/11 2:53 AM, "Rainer Straschill" wrote: > Dustbunnies schrieb: >> That's a few I remember. Perhaps Rainer or Ted or Sjaak (amongst others) >> have more to add on the subject. >> > Glad to do. Here some unordered comments (some of them just expanding > what you or others in the past already said). I was hoping you'd chime in here, since you're even more batshit crazy than I am (and I say that affectionately with all the genius-mad-scientist respect I can possibly muster). ;) > 4. @dust_bunnies: thanks for the tip with configuring the external pedal > for on/off and using an unlatched footswitch for some susoverdub! Need > to try that myself. One more to add here. When I was playing with this, I had my two units set up in a full-on cross-connected feedback matrix: Unit 1 feeding into Unit 2, and Unit 2 feeding right back into Unit 1. Normally this would be deadly and would result in runaway feedback in, say, maybe 2 seconds. However, I had the unlatched footswitch controlling Unit 2 (which was set to 100% wet). So the only time anything entered Unit 2's buffer -- and thus fed back to Unit 1 -- was when I had its footswitch depressed. So I could set up a long loop on Unit 1, then have Sus-type effects on that loop from Unit 2, but which also then print back onto Unit 1's loop. Of course, you can then further Susoverdub sections which already have the Sus stutters printed, and so on and so forth. It only took a few presses of the foot to fill up the space with stuttery glitchiness, IIRC. My next experiment was going to be to add a multi-effect into the feedback loop, between Unit 2's output and Unit 1's second input. So you could then apply other effects (pitchshift, bit-reduction, or maybe yet another delay!) to the Susoverdubbed parts before printing them back onto the original loop. Unfortunately, never had the time to implement that last part.... --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 12:53:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5419618345B; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mma4RHvGpkgK51Jh0TdIZThurzb8tXGWSH6TMipY6g4=; b=GYviimnObwhasTJ72PKcDQJLWVvDtsKV2J9lfvbeExzpjI6t5sd767z5DU7pj3fbH6 2/v7k2xZ73ovyFkHs4y4fjIVusLWuYu+7POR+lFFd8aTkkRoAMRVg92J85jO0BQaxhRn 6dYAAlfII7Eqgsco8TWeijN4/2vI7dgUxeBkQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B80K2gngPoTtQZvUEPCz9rubQSd+BCdVHlSFJgnGS03iUtTxvlV6zwNrIdP0nLJfS/ 1qPVyBJGcWR3xZI3syX+DvxuYqo+VFDXhmcsi7bTf0GQx8XbnnJN72+LQNzdxNjiZpqb 9dqCOew4qsfx0iVA9sTKWOlMqnT8Z/NrhH45c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9BE90001-51C3-47F1-90E1-A18E2B72748A@baymoon.com> References: <9BE90001-51C3-47F1-90E1-A18E2B72748A@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:53:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Per's Mobius patches From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi Bill, On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:18 AM, William Walker wro= te: > Hey Per this is really cool, =C2=A0a lot of stuff that I do Yes, like I said: a lot of similar processing in our approaches :-) > like the Time warp idea. whats up with that????? Is this similar to what = I > do =C2=A0manually toggling track speed when in record or replace to creat= e odd > meters or octave leaps, but in automated form???????? Sort of realated. My Time Warp scripts do a very simple processing: 1. Go into Overdub Mode. 2. Rate Shift in rhythmic steps according to a set sequence. 3. Go out of Overdub Mode. All that happens during one Cycle (EDP-ish. Means the length of the first loop I started out that session by recording. Or a new if I have later on defined a new Track Sync Master Track). I only use two Time Warp scripts because I need to know what they will put out from the noise I chose to put in ;-) I wrote them in a way that to not change the playback time of the Cycle, related to parallel loops on other tracks. You know, if transposed up the loop goes faster and if transposed down it goes slower. So I have kind of balanced up and down transposing through-out the script to give the full schebang the same total playback time as the loop would have if not processed. I use octaves, fifths and fourths up or down to avoid clashes between major and minor chords and keep more of the compositional momentum at my hands rather than "in-the-box". Also, each script exists in five different versions to match specific timing measures: 4/4, 5/4, 6/8, 7/8, 9/8. I never have to bother about that though because the script I trigger from my pedal only reads what 8ths Per Cycle Mobius is actually working at and then fetches and applies the Time Warp script that matches the actual timing measure. > Also its weird but I > never use fade, started to, but stopped in favor of good old fashion > feedback reduction to fade traclks away. I like feedback manipulation too, even pumping a pedal during overdub or mulitply to create "volume sweeps" in all background layers on the next loop round. But the Fade In/Out I use more for "remixing while playing". The script checks what level the looper track is at and then fades out rather slowly. Next time I kick the same button - with that track selected - it checks and find "oh shit, track volume is down at zero... man I better FADE IN now!" ...and in this situation the script remembers the old track volume level and fades back in to the same volume as it used to be. I also have the four looper track's volume on the Faderfox hand mixer faders for quick manual adjustment. > PS the fader fox thingy is really cool Indeed. I would buy a new one if mine was lost. Maybe I replace them with an iPhone or iPad in the future. I like physical buttons better than a touch screen but since you bring your mobile phone anyway the OSC solution would also help to save overweight costs when traveling. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 13:49:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A0E2183458; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 556377563/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.177.225/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.177.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsABABNjIU1V0rHh/2dsb2JhbAAMlgvKB4VKBI4V X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,266,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="556377563" Message-ID: <4D21D3EA.9080307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:49:30 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative References: <20110102025745.D3ECE18344A@hemlock.violacea.com> <714CAD76-E3CB-4B75-94C1-193AA7C42AD8@me.com> <4542FC0B-730B-46B9-AE0F-8F32DD4CED49@grubmah.com> <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jan 1, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > >> I gather Dustbunnies manages to get SUS-style operations on the LP-1, but it seems to depend on having a "decent" (his words) MIDI controller since it would seem to depend on having a controller that will send note on or program change messages on pedal release. > > I had entirely missed the momentary buttons portion of the Looperlative (I don't think it's mentioned in my user manual). ...understandable ...because it's not there. The Looperlative will of course respond to commands that are sent when the switch is released, but it doesn't itself have any SUS functionality. > So, first of all: Cool that the Looperlative can exploit SUS commands if only for a Replace and Replace+Original -- though interestingly not QReplace. For QReplace the Looperlative has a delay built in. When you start a QReplace the Looperlative won't respond to any new commands until it's finished. QReplace>QReplace>EndSequence will replace exactly one chunk of audio. ..and Multiple presses of that button will produce a very nice alternation of Replaced and unaltered chunks. > > Second: Yes, this requires the same sort of controller support as the EDP (though as I noted, the EDP also just works with its standard footpedal). I don't think the LP1 can do SUS with a controller that just sends Note-Off on release. ...has anyone tried getting the LP1 to midi-learn a Note-Off? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 14:17:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A76D1183474; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 550628145/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.177.225/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.177.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AucBAGdpIU1V0rHh/2dsb2JhbAAMlgvKFIVKBI4V X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,266,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="550628145" Message-ID: <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:17:17 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative References: <4D20EC57.8010509@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D20EC57.8010509@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > I'll probably mangle this, but my understanding is that 'Loop Windowing' > was a bug that people deemed fascinating so they left it in (I can't > remember who > was it's champion but I imagine it was either Andy Butler or , perhaps, > Andre LaFosse--- > historians, please weigh in here with accuracy, my mind is very fuzzy > and I want > to give credit where credit is due). Loop windowing was discovered in Loop3, before my time. Andre was keen on it, I remember, and Claude Voit. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 14:35:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0DC1183476; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=svPMfFiiAFSmZEOrAfmCakSM4k/oZFzidODyOvk8dsI=; b=gRbxdRzViD4t6bf4cCCIQrceKkb7KUb5TuTk944sPU6vgAfx+h9IMTyGi/CLP+cuaQ i3WtAJ0mOjg00L3N/RRVPH8OQb1jrIvEBak0y0hXQ13hDtuStQnVuR6SVFZajBNld6SN IVBG3n6F332MIxiS1EDer9sxs0DsvtyVL173w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=StS4IvrpxermJn/qzEaRbUU74/hOllPNmbhlqwptlJzu7jmVpkA6lhHX4nYIQLjYTi MAmfngtG1ynToNaqJTApS3ax1DsVixnAvmzUrb/dqgtxvZifsjCu2byQ8nTn18dmIuLS lmauf6XsSG98xJlwrYAEZjb35zpOwzpMofrt8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D20EC57.8010509@cruzio.com> <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:35:28 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HoNuL4owjbnevWluJiYIxI2_K-k Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e83807244d50498f211cd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:35:50 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e83807244d50498f211cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What I love to do with Loop Windowing is to make a real long loop (on my second EDP), with many multiplies and overdubs.. then all of a sudden hit multiply rec as fast as poss, to make a tiny buzzing loop. Then I hit play on my drum-machine that just has a lot of G7s programmed in a row. (G7 is the midi note for UNDO on the EDP) The drum machine is not heard, its just sending midi notes to the EDP.. at 32nds of the beat. The drum machines speed in comparison to the EDP is set by my first EDPs 8ths setting as the EDP sends midi clock at this value. Then the second EDP loop windows at that speed thru the whole memory of the EDP... if the loop was very long and the new loop very short it can last an eternity! My life these days is spent trying to find an equivalent sound in mobius... Im afraid I have been unsuccessful... Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e83807244d50498f211cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I love to do with Loop Windowing is to make a real long loop (on my se= cond EDP), with many multiplies and overdubs.. then all of a sudden hit mul= tiply rec as fast as poss, to make a tiny buzzing loop.
Then I hit play= on my drum-machine that just has a lot of G7s programmed in a row. (G7 is = the midi note for UNDO on the EDP) The drum machine is not heard, its just = sending midi notes to the EDP.. at 32nds of the beat. The drum machines spe= ed in comparison to the EDP is set by my first EDPs 8ths setting as the EDP= sends midi clock at this value. Then the second EDP loop windows at that s= peed thru the whole memory of the EDP... if the loop was very long and the = new loop very short it can last an eternity!

My life these days is spent trying to find an equivalent sound in mobiu= s... Im afraid I have been unsuccessful...

Mark



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mark francombe
= www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @ma= rkfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/use= r825094
http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e83807244d50498f211cd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 14:51:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E152183478; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lf1KzYC2ZG03gzhNKlHrCK9cnFzRE+MOBhsQmEQP8Mk=; b=KLQnHrOXB/hnWmiplDsgrjryYrxdrFj3gr4BaHaWPdGs5eBojotglI3ADrlrU7VJtH eMUVwYI5hwMJ1nVqEu83MdmbV5iUnvc6mqfmCJVR9RpYBu8PwmH4akVfsR4ect6/OpgG nDS5YAabaABrvAkwbpfGbMkjKUPG6zzclelQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dxURcnlzqrsLM/CoisHjKxVZUUoeyscu2ykSUcvv86JogvZGaEsLVwKmtlACDj8oqY jhk3DxzFdRvay3paKHBWiWurlVpbTTXM3lnIzNM5CsQBfHMfbdt2yh+ge8KidX4OFl5c A8vvrTfjSokq2yV2TDflBl1pfZUKchA4fzVr4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:51:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Midi question for live setup From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_3J1pD.A.XvF.yJeINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Great Todd, I was wondering how that worked out for you. Glad I could help= . I also recently made a controller with the Highly Liquid midi cpu. It's sort of based on a guitar: http://no-insects.blogspot.com/2010/12/guitar-controller-part-iv.html Of course, it's just a bunch of buttons and the really challenging part is on the software side of things, which is still in development (bidule patch, max/msp patch and/or mobius script). Right now I'm using pre-recorded samples, but ultimately I want to sample live. Sylvain On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I finally got around to doing this project and it worked out great! I > already had a Boss FS-6 footswitch in my closet that I gutted and put the > midi cpu from highly liquid in. I drilled the holes for the 1/4" jacks a > little larger in the back to fit midi plugs and now I have really small > silent midi foot controller with 2 footswitches that I can program to sen= d > exactly the midi commands I want and nothing else! I also learned a lot i= n > the proces of doing this project. > > Thanks again Slyvain for pointing me in this direction! > -Todd Matthews > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Sylvain Poitras > wrote: >> >> I'd get myself one of those: >> http://highlyliquid.com/midi-controllers/midi-cpu/ >> >> Solder a switch, some midi in out plugs and a 9v battery plug. =A0Put it >> in a box and program through sysex. =A0A nice little weekend project. >> >> Maybe it's overkill (or over priced), but you'll have a very small >> footswitch that does what you need of it. >> >> Sylvain >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Todd Matthews >> wrote: >> > I want to be able to send the midi note on/off message for the note E1= . >> > This >> > will allow me to mute and unmute my instrument mic on channel 1 of my >> > mixer. >> > Anybody know of a really efficient way to accomplish this in a live >> > setup? A >> > single programmable footswitch that can do midi notes with a midi out >> > jack >> > would have the smallest footprint. For my M9 - Rang 3 setup I don't ne= ed >> > any >> > other functions other than to send the note E1 to be able to mute/mute >> > my >> > mic that goes directly into the mixer. I'm using my rme fireface as th= e >> > mixer but in standalone mode so its not hooked up to a computer. It ca= n >> > be >> > controlled by midi in mackie emulation mode. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 15:00:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C11C18347A; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:00:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7JrZTS9DbNkEmbNZVqKV6QPREI/8R+fjtv5+Jsi0Tlw=; b=vljWk46IxgMNb+mfWfkXUnO+6CMEI1p55cBjaNAgIuuz3575/Fc+Ljtn6mNvQkhLan EGnLIEtsbluuvS+5qZqLWvPmg/Gh722tQ/lUkh7JtryBmIkQXIUAF+z/RNrvKVY7wp7v Oae/ocsubUaroxbZLMfsx1QDpWkcPoP+aEMFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Fauy02lh8wteFgvoJ5IFpMen3i9IEESkFQ9UUNpLuWvzbNEZwh0dY5t4HL7DUu2qSb 4niy0IDDZzvQXQH8J1f0noYVi/HWm3/Tds77nD5AV7feSVEzHnghwtHv+0PUp8qE//q0 hU2n3bwqMgBQitRO9HCQdgAsUYK5VRjV3cazQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D20EC57.8010509@cruzio.com> <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:00:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:00:10 +0000 (UTC) That was my fav trick on the EDP too! :-)) But I never got a second EDP and I stepped the UNDO manually, so I never took it as far as you. Missing it in Mobius but finding some comfort in the scripting option. Per On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:35 PM, mark francombe wrote: > What I love to do with Loop Windowing is to make a real long loop (on my > second EDP), with many multiplies and overdubs.. then all of a sudden hit > multiply rec as fast as poss, to make a tiny buzzing loop. > Then I hit play on my drum-machine that just has a lot of G7s programmed in > a row. (G7 is the midi note for UNDO on the EDP) The drum machine is not > heard, its just sending midi notes to the EDP.. at 32nds of the beat. The > drum machines speed in comparison to the EDP is set by my first EDPs 8ths > setting as the EDP sends midi clock at this value. Then the second EDP loop > windows at that speed thru the whole memory of the EDP... if the loop was > very long and the new loop very short it can last an eternity! > > My life these days is spent trying to find an equivalent sound in mobius... > Im afraid I have been unsuccessful... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 15:12:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59AC718347C; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=daFCZEmxSD+cq5NF5bCb6K7W4YpKnjzqMG/z85GGYdo=; b=i0A3MMbOJnjpfxr8KvnT5FY1Ma320XU+vgdiNJd6r74lEGxRgvwqa7SIeeO/wKlxVR gej3Sjfwztvv/7bNpmSTTpVPDMeFzE4NztbKueb9ADlTfuETPahmv7niGUe7lfm8vMzC k4zBXEz1xwlnJAmBvjcBEET7I1YONNe7ZuJ48= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Ivhj5Q6N9hF2TiD8fEZcUp55htqZSvXvWSeRQCm/wCCAdIJh82TsMph74k0vw8TgrF ZAgzs3eqncDilrrVMre8xynKfxU36l1uKORX8t4aZuJijTUOgkCrup8/L1ItpklLU1DP aSyngHsBIC5iWAHODMxUMMIRuidFl0XaBseGk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D20EC57.8010509@cruzio.com> <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:12:33 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qFmgAK-6eTgZPb_6q7zxoNnG1Bc Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e89b00449410498f29615 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:12:54 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e89b00449410498f29615 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Missing it in Mobius but finding some comfort in the scripting option Are you saying you like to script in Mobius, or that you HAVE FOUND some kinda emulation using scripting.. if you have.. gimme! I have been looking into trim (no good cos it chucks the trimmed audio- unlike on repeater, where you can also do loop windowing, albeit with rabid twisting of knobs physically with hands).. then I tried trim > undo > slip > trim... but its not working.. mostly down to my inability to script methinks... but the idea was to trim, undo back to Un trimmed, move along a bit and trim.. then repeat... Why cant we have a mode in Mobius called.. er... Window.. eh Jeff? (press once to loop around a cycle, press again to move to the next cycle.. think that would do it?) Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e89b00449410498f29615 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
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Missing it in Mobius but finding some comfort in the scripting option

Are you saying you like to script in Mobius, or that you HA= VE FOUND some kinda=A0 emulation using scripting.. if you have.. gimme!

I have been looking into trim (no good cos it chucks the trimmed audio-= unlike on repeater, where you can also do loop windowing, albeit with rabi= d twisting of knobs physically with hands)..
then I tried trim > undo= > slip > trim... but its not working.. mostly down to my inability t= o script methinks... but the idea was to trim, undo back to Un trimmed, mov= e along a bit and trim.. then repeat...

Why cant we have a mode in Mobius called.. er... Window.. eh Jeff? (pre= ss once to loop around a cycle, press again to move to the next cycle.. thi= nk that would do it?)


Mark



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twitter @markfrancombe
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--90e6ba6e89b00449410498f29615-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 15:21:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5E9518347E; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D21D3EA.9080307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 07:21:02 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <236087CA-C7B3-4EED-AE12-7B0D92D43A23@grubmah.com> References: <20110102025745.D3ECE18344A@hemlock.violacea.com> <714CAD76-E3CB-4B75-94C1-193AA7C42AD8@me.com> <4542FC0B-730B-46B9-AE0F-8F32DD4CED49@grubmah.com> <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> <4D21D3EA.9080307@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <3geWPD.A.KpG.ileINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:21:06 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:49 AM, andy butler wrote: > Mark Hamburg wrote: >> On Jan 1, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >>> I gather Dustbunnies manages to get SUS-style operations on the = LP-1, but it seems to depend on having a "decent" (his words) MIDI = controller since it would seem to depend on having a controller that = will send note on or program change messages on pedal release.=20 >> I had entirely missed the momentary buttons portion of the = Looperlative (I don't think it's mentioned in my user manual). >=20 > ...understandable > ...because it's not there. > The Looperlative will of course respond to commands that are sent when = the switch is released, > but it doesn't itself have any SUS functionality. >=20 >> So, first of all: Cool that the Looperlative can exploit SUS commands = if only for a Replace and Replace+Original -- though interestingly not = QReplace. >=20 > For QReplace the Looperlative has a delay built in. > When you start a QReplace the Looperlative won't respond to any new = commands > until it's finished. > QReplace>QReplace>EndSequence will replace exactly one chunk of audio. > ..and Multiple presses of that button will produce a very nice = alternation > of Replaced and unaltered chunks. >=20 >> Second: Yes, this requires the same sort of controller support as the = EDP (though as I noted, the EDP also just works with its standard = footpedal). >=20 > I don't think the LP1 can do SUS with a controller that just sends = Note-Off on release. > ...has anyone tried getting the LP1 to midi-learn a Note-Off? My impression is that the Looperlative has special support for Note Off = via the momentary buttons facility. In other words, if I program note on = 38 as a momentary button meaning either Replace or Replace+Original, = then the note off will presumably toggle the other way. But this just comes from doing a little bit of poking into momentary = buttons while programming up a controller so that I can start following = all of the advice to "delve deeper". I didn't actually try using the = momentary buttons feature. Mark P.S. I'm on whatever the current OS release is though I now gather that = that's not necessarily the "best" choice. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 15:37:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FBF4183480; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294069035; bh=5eYQyciaDIK/ZUFI1p8X6fsvE8xGulQfVCkEiQBtvjk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1gJeq9x2VpXDln72GTHx06I7VLEMduO8UkMgMtUXTBgD9zEPVy/3SbJqMiWvandDbQxQEaevSeRzyiPfRXByDmC703zz7PIT8Y0Qa09QsKq3Q5fVN6LGh6abUq9g/hp4Hf+cpgVjcZ2NDp2dspXZzF0v2CyNC1TFfnvXyLWOu0A= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=U0bpl8iP7Rl5nos018No7Z/i4dFmG+HYf5ZV9cQTRpM5mgMb/xeXkKh65LGy+yj2W5SrLhtrAdN4FDEGgvGqJIECmwh5jthA5vb1qOL4zLQjEbxCruAaWhUDZxBCj7JxCIXgf0nNOzqwzuS4X6Hl0WCvgRS3Venx8SuItfXI7XM=; Message-ID: <1636.40065.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CoYZFLUVM1mV2iP0WUQUNE3LynebTztfGFYA7M4sz8sJ.0M TRV5LyDguv9qU7sVKXs4GshYpCsH8xf5scWz83.2SLsPYqYB.bTTsAEI6ACn FFfGGBy4ZSeXxRSuLd3_v3T62I.XRmvIFnJZGm6DWbT4pzAbOJo90Eo2lp4v WhMl0bDCdLEpWM3P7qW2xxm4VEQQdwGj4b77.1Ic0rsfQtlahJ1JvPUPsVXa UDkEDtQBl0KK8PJMivYjv52hhJdy2TfKb446i8CP32.LjG3zCQ.4TllbgFqL 3deUj6OpN6Bu7 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <20110102025745.D3ECE18344A@hemlock.violacea.com> <714CAD76-E3CB-4B75-94C1-193AA7C42AD8@me.com> <4542FC0B-730B-46B9-AE0F-8F32DD4CED49@grubmah.com> <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> <4D21D3EA.9080307@tiscali.co.uk> <236087CA-C7B3-4EED-AE12-7B0D92D43A23@grubmah.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 07:37:14 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <236087CA-C7B3-4EED-AE12-7B0D92D43A23@grubmah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="403450488-396319415-1294069034=:40065" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:37:16 +0000 (UTC) --403450488-396319415-1294069034=:40065 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii you can program note off messages to do whatever you like, instead of note on. Would that help? antony ________________________________ From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011 4:21:02 PM Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:49 AM, andy butler wrote: > Mark Hamburg wrote: >> On Jan 1, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >>> I gather Dustbunnies manages to get SUS-style operations on the LP-1, but it >>>seems to depend on having a "decent" (his words) MIDI controller since it would >>>seem to depend on having a controller that will send note on or program change >>>messages on pedal release. >>> >> I had entirely missed the momentary buttons portion of the Looperlative (I >>don't think it's mentioned in my user manual). > > ...understandable > ...because it's not there. > The Looperlative will of course respond to commands that are sent when the >switch is released, > but it doesn't itself have any SUS functionality. > >> So, first of all: Cool that the Looperlative can exploit SUS commands if only >>for a Replace and Replace+Original -- though interestingly not QReplace. > > For QReplace the Looperlative has a delay built in. > When you start a QReplace the Looperlative won't respond to any new commands > until it's finished. > QReplace>QReplace>EndSequence will replace exactly one chunk of audio. > ..and Multiple presses of that button will produce a very nice alternation > of Replaced and unaltered chunks. > >> Second: Yes, this requires the same sort of controller support as the EDP >>(though as I noted, the EDP also just works with its standard footpedal). > > I don't think the LP1 can do SUS with a controller that just sends Note-Off on >release. > ...has anyone tried getting the LP1 to midi-learn a Note-Off? My impression is that the Looperlative has special support for Note Off via the momentary buttons facility. In other words, if I program note on 38 as a momentary button meaning either Replace or Replace+Original, then the note off will presumably toggle the other way. But this just comes from doing a little bit of poking into momentary buttons while programming up a controller so that I can start following all of the advice to "delve deeper". I didn't actually try using the momentary buttons feature. Mark P.S. I'm on whatever the current OS release is though I now gather that that's not necessarily the "best" choice. --403450488-396319415-1294069034=:40065 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
you can program note off messages to do whatever you like, instead of note on. Would that help?

antony

From: Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011 4:21:02 PM
Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative

On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:49 AM, andy butler wrote:

> Mark Hamburg wrote:
>> On Jan 1, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
>>> I gather Dustbunnies manages to get SUS-style operations on the LP-1, but it seems to depend on having a "decent" (his words) MIDI controller since it would seem to depend on having a controller that will send note on or program change messages on pedal release.
>> I had entirely missed the momentary buttons portion of the Looperlative (I don't think it's mentioned in my user manual).
>
> ...understandable
> ...because it's not there.
> The Looperlative will of course respond to commands that are sent when the switch is released,
> but it doesn't itself have any SUS functionality.
>
>> So, first of all: Cool that the Looperlative can exploit SUS commands if only for a Replace and Replace+Original -- though interestingly not QReplace.
>
> For QReplace the Looperlative has a delay built in.
> When you start a QReplace the Looperlative won't respond to any new commands
> until it's finished.
> QReplace>QReplace>EndSequence will replace exactly one chunk of audio.
> ..and Multiple presses of that button will produce a very nice alternation
> of Replaced and unaltered chunks.
>
>> Second: Yes, this requires the same sort of controller support as the EDP (though as I noted, the EDP also just works with its standard footpedal).
>
> I don't think the LP1 can do SUS with a controller that just sends Note-Off on release.
> ...has anyone tried getting the LP1 to midi-learn a Note-Off?

My impression is that the Looperlative has special support for Note Off via the momentary buttons facility. In other words, if I program note on 38 as a momentary button meaning either Replace or Replace+Original, then the note off will presumably toggle the other way.

But this just comes from doing a little bit of poking into momentary buttons while programming up a controller so that I can start following all of the advice to "delve deeper". I didn't actually try using the momentary buttons feature.

Mark

P.S. I'm on whatever the current OS release is though I now gather that that's not necessarily the "best" choice.


--403450488-396319415-1294069034=:40065-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 15:41:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E381018347E; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-IP: 66.162.196.117 User-Agent: Web-Based Email 5.3.03 Message-Id: <20110103084139.95a0a121071e8df19db85607a1a5a351.15c5a2f6a8.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Reyn vs Blaudzun - Quiet German Girls Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 08:41:39 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:41:43 +0000 (UTC)
love Blaudzun...great job on the looping/backup playing.
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Subject: Reyn vs Blaudzun - Quiet German Girls
From: Reyn Ouwehand <loopers= -delight@reyn.net>
Date: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:25 am
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com

Really simple looping, but I just love this song and wanted to share! :

http://www.y= outube.com/watch_popup?v=3DMuqZAqxcwjg

Cheers,

Reyn

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 15:42:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89C9E183474; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z1ZKDfII3OORGzMCUs5IofCEj0oay+2HlOPcO2zNTqI=; b=fg5eOrsDDPfiDdhFPvijtnsbt8RsETNZSQm8fMqKZ1az+PvmIMBi0FbJl6RGZ+ASsR zw+ZmPI/dF7KoIrYqIvXfRr7glLofUHUn2iL2MOgP31hoLwTxVBNuV2E1R2nAvqIczOI 4Qb4ohykRaJ+ZFU3yHVqkimh8udhhaQgAqsc4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qfFUE7nAB16Fk6sI9X/ameCBDpNqMe72z2735wxE36mfxVGTu/H7MsUwJNUq/yHsxS d2U3HLKlg20VT4aZ18TX24MJmeoQKT5o0YgT13qCMZhBl4CTdMLuR4Q1OSeqF+AqM7tb DV6cqYkokllkbFSq0uVko9DvlTkECv2NWdZYQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D20EC57.8010509@cruzio.com> <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:42:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <6p9EZB.A.nTH.l5eINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:42:29 +0000 (UTC) > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Missing it in Mobius but finding some comfort in the scripting option On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Are you saying you like to script in Mobius, No, I hate scripting. Or programming. Or anything preparation... What I meant is that the comfort comes with other stuff (than EDP Loop Window-ing) you can play by using scripts. > or that you HAVE FOUND some > kinda=C2=A0 emulation using scripting.. if you have.. gimme! Sorry for being inaccurate. If someone should mock up an EDP style loop window script for Mobius it would be ultra cool. But I suspect something similar should be possible with the (rather) new random statements. Like in my "Shuffle This" and "Shuffle That" scripts you downloaded and tried out. But those two were only quick mock-ups to test out the new statement. Now I have forgotten how they work (curse of my brainz - learns fast, forgets even faster). If you check those scripts the random statements are there and then you can read up on what they do in the Scripting Manual. And then you can create the legendary (to be) "Loop Window Mark I" script to share with the Mobius community ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 15:46:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3131E183485; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D20EC57.8010509@cruzio.com> <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:46:49 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb6f265bde00498f30f0f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:46:51 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb6f265bde00498f30f0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:12 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Why cant we have a mode in Mobius called.. er... Window.. eh Jeff? Good things come to those who wait. I've tried to simulate loop windowing with scripts but have not come up with anything satisfactory. Someone suggested (maybe you?) a script that would use a combination of Undo, Move, and SUSUnroundedMultiply to cut out a piece of the last layer, let it play once, then Undo back and cut out the piece before the last, repeating until you reach the start of the layer. Then Undo twice to go back two layers, repeat until you run out of layers. That would actually be possible but it would be a relatively complicated script. The main difference between this and loop windowing is that the window can't span two layers. I gave up on it because it seemed easier just to implement loop windowing than to write that script :) But that got shelved during the Great Documentation Frenzy that's been going on the past year. I will be back to coding again in 2011. Jeff --0015175cb6f265bde00498f30f0f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:12 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Why cant we have a mode in Mobius called.. er... Window.. eh Jeff?=A0=

Good things come to those who wait.

I've tried to simulate loop windowing with scripts but have not c= ome up
with anything satisfactory. =A0Someone suggested (maybe yo= u?) a script
that would use a combination of Undo, Move, and SUSUnroundedMultiply t= o
cut out a piece of the last layer, let it play once, then Undo = back
and cut out the piece before the last, repeating until you r= each the
start of the layer. =A0Then Undo twice to go back two layers, repeat u= ntil
you run out of layers. =A0

That wou= ld actually be possible but it would be a relatively complicated
script. =A0The main difference between this and loop windowing is that the<= /div>
window can't span two layers. =A0I gave up on it because it s= eemed easier
just to implement loop windowing than to write that = script :) =A0But that
got shelved during the Great Documentation Frenzy that's been goin= g on=A0
the past year. =A0I will be back to coding again in 2011.=

Jeff

--0015175cb6f265bde00498f30f0f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 15:58:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F19DD183498; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Hk986T/SC2Yw94EHOLKCz9ayDtdAhg0SWQScwVfLFo8=; b=QusYsU76kA0CyBVxUYnhowwxI5qEhgfnN623V3ff7PzZyIKPOG9m1Ud/QlvpmvJ3vK x4OueLgvmqLSqdL6HnDuevvjfmPF11apXsaPm6F+7eDjOHHCJH/ICPzrYVMBTC44t4VD Hn/2K+utROiMzz4ho8cos9otSxx9Tpq8GJhZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hPivwOmnpCelwBvJMvMmiyHx8XZUb90YI/DsEW8bSM5jCy2jmh5i9ptAL4LA1VJD6Q Fm9yIU0T63ER7FwnHbG1kRqu8ZelJ/H3uqLFyE5JcqU8X1LS3W/if82d2oOWfwS34gIM SCB3qtx0BkcEKRAnYMYTbDpet7tkxWGrD7N6Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:58:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) From: Paul Pokorski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ca98a08e8490498f339b7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:58:29 +0000 (UTC) --0015175ca98a08e8490498f339b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kinda in a similar mode....I picked up a Behringer RV600 Reverb Machine and a EM600 Echo Machine. They are fairly inexpensive (approx. $50 USD). I believe the Reverb Machine is a copy of the Line 6 Verbzilla. Anyway, for the money, they are really excellent pedals. Lots of great tonal options/features. Bright (VERY bright) blue LED's that I have to cover up with my finger to make an adjustment to the pedal. Anyway, for those on a budget, check 'em out! Butch On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: > >> Yep, like the DD-20, this one is a sleeper. There are some very cool >> things that you can get it to do, with a little advanced thought. >> > Would you be into resinging those praises, Duke. > I've never used a dedicated digital delay stomp box pedal but > I'm suddenly really hankering to learn how to do that. > I've heard people talk about the coolness of the DD-20 but never really > known what hip alternative things it can do. > > and sorry for asking so much from you. Your posts have just really lit a > fire under > me today on this first day of 2011. > > Great way to start. Thanks for your creativity. > > rick walker > > --0015175ca98a08e8490498f339b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kinda in a similar mode....I picked up a Behringer RV600 Reverb Machin= e and a EM600 Echo Machine. They are fairly inexpensive (approx. $50 USD). = I believe the Reverb Machine is a copy of the Line 6 Verbzilla. Anyway, for= the money, they are really excellent pedals. Lots of great tonal options/f= eatures. Bright (VERY bright) blue LED's that I have to cover up with m= y finger to make an adjustment to the pedal. Anyway, for those on a budget,= check 'em out!
=A0
Butch

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.co= m> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote:
Yep, like the DD-20, this one is= a sleeper. =A0There are some very cool things that you can get it to do, w= ith a little advanced thought.
Would you be into resinging those praises, =A0Duke.
I= 've never used a dedicated digital delay stomp box pedal but
I'm= suddenly really hankering to learn how to do that.
I've heard peopl= e talk about the coolness of the DD-20 but never really
known what hip alternative things it can do.

and sorry for asking so= much from you. =A0 Your posts have just really lit a fire under
me toda= y on this first day of 2011.

Great way to start. =A0Thanks for your = creativity.

rick walker

--0015175ca98a08e8490498f339b7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 16:05:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 545D41834A2; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-12-83285905"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2B950011-27B3-4D22-B283-9EE6E3BC3349@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:03:01 -0500 To: thread-topic: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) thread-index: AcurX9i8YM5TELTPSt2azm1i2pJg+w== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2011 16:04:59.0777 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8FD1710:01CBAB5F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:05:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12-83285905 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anybody played with a gnx4 digitech for looping? My son has hus under the be= d, bit of a waste ;( Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:58 AM, "Paul Pokorski" wrote: > Kinda in a similar mode....I picked up a Behringer RV600 Reverb Machine an= d a EM600 Echo Machine. They are fairly inexpensive (approx. $50 USD). I bel= ieve the Reverb Machine is a copy of the Line 6 Verbzilla. Anyway, for the m= oney, they are really excellent pedals. Lots of great tonal options/features= . Bright (VERY bright) blue LED's that I have to cover up with my finger to m= ake an adjustment to the pedal. Anyway, for those on a budget, check 'em out= ! > =20 > Butch >=20 > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: > Yep, like the DD-20, this one is a sleeper. There are some very cool thin= gs that you can get it to do, with a little advanced thought.=20 > Would you be into resinging those praises, Duke. > I've never used a dedicated digital delay stomp box pedal but > I'm suddenly really hankering to learn how to do that. > I've heard people talk about the coolness of the DD-20 but never really > known what hip alternative things it can do. >=20 > and sorry for asking so much from you. Your posts have just really lit a= fire under > me today on this first day of 2011. >=20 > Great way to start. Thanks for your creativity. >=20 > rick walker >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-12-83285905 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Anybody played with a gnx4 digitech for looping? My son has hus under the bed, bit of a waste ;(

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:58 AM, "Paul Pokorski" <butchband@gmail.com> wrote:

Kinda in a similar mode....I picked up a Behringer RV600 Reverb Machine and a EM600 Echo Machine. They are fairly inexpensive (approx. $50 USD). I believe the Reverb Machine is a copy of the Line 6 Verbzilla. Anyway, for the money, they are really excellent pedals. Lots of great tonal options/features. Bright (VERY bright) blue LED's that I have to cover up with my finger to make an adjustment to the pedal. Anyway, for those on a budget, check 'em out!
 
Butch

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote:
Yep, like the DD-20, this one is a sleeper.  There are some very cool things that you can get it to do, with a little advanced thought.
Would you be into resinging those praises,  Duke.
I've never used a dedicated digital delay stomp box pedal but
I'm suddenly really hankering to learn how to do that.
I've heard people talk about the coolness of the DD-20 but never really
known what hip alternative things it can do.

and sorry for asking so much from you.   Your posts have just really lit a fire under
me today on this first day of 2011.

Great way to start.  Thanks for your creativity.

rick walker


--Apple-Mail-12-83285905-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 16:39:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21A4C183487; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CHGt+PRpJo6eetT+SZ1xrhmbReBgyZVNfLd2Ty9GkPA=; b=MloObo9d+zd+ap/xdUDxE0cWnvqOQrj7uzwipto85O6jMmL5r27zX5e5UCXi7UJzNm uclDufBK86m8clxfCmwPIaw/dP6uxkeeMeHKOYdOiEt+QS1NwRAWlaljAf2yUxi5m4Cy h+xtKMLLoK66jijETyc72bEjtQOEdOg8mVNUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pgS+XE7n2rDjEJ46dmcydzE4GEFjTOLo0n9i6FIf6dLp8WSnLUGkQLZm39siko+fxZ tlcdE03voYsPVggcdjN434Eag86O0Lv3Qxp98xEYlgyL8rGrAslhRXe4zPj4VFmH29uS FjJG6gpF3j1+3s93tRnRCtnFbZGzYVrTwvZuA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2B950011-27B3-4D22-B283-9EE6E3BC3349@1800dialword.com> References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> <2B950011-27B3-4D22-B283-9EE6E3BC3349@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:39:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <3sJaE.A.0EB.nufINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:39:03 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Anybody played with a gnx4 digitech for looping? Not the 4, but I was once lent a GNX3000 for testing. It was crap for looping, because the built-in recoding option is designed for learning parts of recorded music rather than for performing. But the effects, amp and cabinet simulation, called "Component-Based Modeling", sounds excellent! I briefly read up on the GNX4 now and its spec's doesn't list that technique so maybe it doesn't sound as good? Both units are discontinued by now and I have no idea which one is the modern. Seems the 4 has a more advanced recorder, but I would guess it is not fun to loop with that. Better then use it as a sound creating pre amp and loop its sound with a real looper. Why don't don't you plug in and check it out? Must be quicker and more accurate than asking here as you have the GNX4 as close as under your son's bed ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 17:00:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C492A18348B; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=8xwcsF9uwdL/09XVMME/Cq0KGPM4My7hjd1ftwAMmrc=; b=Wyv0/KO3AU1TGtxvSoDwh7m7mR2FOfZKPClhCUdVtxurav2wqHmSbkA+dc/wf1J9tc 9zhhMAu22fOhRCxj6NbIIIhuFW+v22p8lxJVD8Y+MYxpmfBNFxaRyJv7m0uiGbS8YqQu V8fvj4MydPVvZrA83agP5LLDJdkb54P3Rp0U8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ATB3DzItOExEPgtLqM+qqZ2Bp5wVjFKV8wlSFbtgJcaZRf/FAL2ScBktQvfcVkuCbe Ie274KGS1EfWTp4hDQnIJci2CfvVdcLF83xzdbRnjLrfVGV/xQtWWyB3d2LMLsoVCKbC m2hiA5QelpFLlYNgbGg/Phyh8e6jzug/KOaIg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D20EC57.8010509@cruzio.com> <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:00:07 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oD4XtzU0PJJhW8-Sw7_dtQ0oAzQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e89b0b8371c0498f41612 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:00:28 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e89b0b8371c0498f41612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > I will be back to coding again in 2011. In case you noticed Jeff, its already 3 days into 2011.. What are you waiting for??? :-) Seriously tho, for me, it just has to "sound like" loop windowing, it doesnt have to be a genuine implementation of the EDP quirk. Infact, is there a mode that can simple loop WITHIN a greater loop, like a programmable start/end point? cos all you have to do is move that about... I was about to post this on you forum Jeff, but I lost my password... I cant find any documentation on trim, move or slip... I was sure that using some combination of this I could at least make something that sounded like it... Mark PS: did we just hi-jack this thread BTW? sorry.. -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e89b0b8371c0498f41612 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Jeff Lar= son <jeff= .larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
I will be back to coding again in 2011.

In case you n= oticed Jeff, its already 3 days into 2011.. What are you waiting for???
=
:-)

Seriously tho, for me, it just has to "sound like"= loop windowing, it doesnt have to be a genuine implementation of the EDP q= uirk.

Infact, is there a mode that can simple loop WITHIN a greater loop, lik= e a programmable start/end point? cos all you have to do is move that about= ...

I was about to post this on you forum Jeff, but I lost my passw= ord... I cant find any documentation on trim, move or slip... I was sure th= at using some combination of this I could at least make something that soun= ded like it...


Mark

PS: did we just hi-jack this thread BTW? sorry..

--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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--90e6ba6e89b0b8371c0498f41612-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 17:10:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C4D218348C; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> <2B950011-27B3-4D22-B283-9EE6E3BC3349@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <498443E5-CDF7-4694-B9D4-D52B62AD7AA6@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:08:26 -0500 thread-topic: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) thread-index: AcuraPxE3/qahQ+tTdGnwngddc0tWA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2011 17:10:19.0183 (UTC) FILETIME=[1922FBF0:01CBAB69] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per good idea, just dont wanna sell it if it can loop. Like the instr= ument sounds on it, bit complicated for an 18 yr old that just wants to play= mando and write songs all day!!! If you come to the states, your guest quarters are all ready!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >> Anybody played with a gnx4 digitech for looping? >=20 >=20 > Not the 4, but I was once lent a GNX3000 for testing. It was crap for > looping, because the built-in recoding option is designed for learning > parts of recorded music rather than for performing. But the effects, > amp and cabinet simulation, called "Component-Based Modeling", sounds > excellent! I briefly read up on the GNX4 now and its spec's doesn't > list that technique so maybe it doesn't sound as good? Both units are > discontinued by now and I have no idea which one is the modern. Seems > the 4 has a more advanced recorder, but I would guess it is not fun to > loop with that. Better then use it as a sound creating pre amp and > loop its sound with a real looper. Why don't don't you plug in and > check it out? Must be quicker and more accurate than asking here as > you have the GNX4 as close as under your son's bed ;-) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 17:20:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B23D183491; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:20:10 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Mobius loop windowing simulation From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64dda763c77910498f45d17 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:20:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64dda763c77910498f45d17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Infact, is there a mode that can simple loop WITHIN a greater loop, > like a programmable start/end point? That would be easier. Set a start point, wait for 1/2 second or whatever, then jump backward, wait another 1/2 second, jump back, etc. > I cant find any documentation on trim, move or slip... I just uploaded a reference manual, you can get it (and the others) here. http://www.circularlabs.com/documentation/documentation.html Jeff --0016e64dda763c77910498f45d17 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Infact, is there a mode that can simple loop WITHI= N a greater loop,
> like a programmable start/end point?
=

That would be easier. =A0Set a start point, wait for 1/= 2 second or whatever,
then jump backward, wait another 1/2 second, jump back, etc. =A0
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> I cant find any documentation on trim, move or sli= p...=A0

I just uploaded a reference manual, you ca= n get it (and the others) here.



Jeff
--0016e64dda763c77910498f45d17-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 17:27:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFD51183492; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NVyX+E9oCUvJHM5xywBTgfcfVgcXdAMwrSu9R7AjEYM=; b=CTpJeslTtttB4yUoflsyNSy+rjTGE5YQUw4e1evgdrpAnmq3eDvFmf7ba8keSIiEzj f2/EUC3ZriHpY+ZPCj2cEmiVt4IDKREPwHX2fcM/s8u7mnOfa/wegzz3yosNl0AqpwRH vHzjWWrLnOTGZPWOhDUnN2coDbMQpo/lWpndE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oB66jY5WOiuDMVlmD4FZiGpdsMGL30Km/mvweMmHGutY8ziKLEaiCPRb28/uhgHJqz domdBbvLOwBmxfowSJ4h1DJOsBgx0MebDCvd3YqooxZwdBgSKUMX2saNdVkBR1QCbEgf CalK9ew2OH9IS7omVIac9RI5OyumBkLSKua/0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:27:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <92QMZB.A.peC.CcgINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:27:30 +0000 (UTC) One of my favorite discoveries last year is my Digitech TimeBender. I have only scratched the surface and find new sounds every time I sit down with it. I do wish it had more than 4 presets With a ex ped youcan actually get more than that though. this guy does a couple of great demo vids here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4arlipIwfIk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhHRk2HO-kpo It also has the extremely bright blue led that I had to put tape over. peace out, Jeff On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Paul Pokorski wrote: > Kinda in a similar mode....I picked up a Behringer RV600 Reverb Machine a= nd > a EM600 Echo Machine. They are fairly inexpensive (approx. $50 USD). I > believe the Reverb Machine is a copy of the Line 6 Verbzilla. Anyway, for > the money, they are really excellent pedals. Lots of great tonal > options/features. Bright (VERY bright) blue LED's that I have to cover up > with my finger to make an adjustment to the pedal. Anyway, for those on a > budget, check 'em out! > > Butch > > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >> >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: >>> >>> Yep, like the DD-20, this one is a sleeper. =A0There are some very cool >>> things that you can get it to do, with a little advanced thought. >> >> Would you be into resinging those praises, =A0Duke. >> I've never used a dedicated digital delay stomp box pedal but >> I'm suddenly really hankering to learn how to do that. >> I've heard people talk about the coolness of the DD-20 but never really >> known what hip alternative things it can do. >> >> and sorry for asking so much from you. =A0 Your posts have just really l= it a >> fire under >> me today on this first day of 2011. >> >> Great way to start. =A0Thanks for your creativity. >> >> rick walker >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 17:42:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30B8E183494; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mWbn/K6hWLGAvpNJMztAOoFLtjl1ngzMca3eXO/EKXM=; b=byvq1jlkFBArSR6BzxV8xrZidrhAtEcO6N9oVKcdHRjJ19d5Z0lcSgjzF0489VYA/F vHB4Q3XXhEqYSBVyAhtYfvgoHU9ZAL/HwqaEqTP5hq91FNm4B9MFwZEa/ZvAekc7QO0K JXmGtUtSNqogVU1wjt5D3XiD3XAmlkpLKVnRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qUiXtnqiuoVJCSkhI6/YxXEA4Kam94/Hz95+rRh2PRkaY2vc45XACjnWzAY4tOiOGp j+kFRoQR7tYeGIdgLAQvFTtYXKoIOt6WXXuBtGZgvzthDhkJDUN/SD+CY8ojDXt7ytYB lrk6CkOb0jHLtt3fgup1z5zbHAO7Zao8s9myc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:42:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius loop windowing simulation From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:42:57 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jeff Larson wro= te: > I just uploaded a reference manual, you can get it (and the others) here. > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.circularlabs.com/documentation/documentation= .html Nice with pictures in the manual! Less mysterious that way. Further on "The Mysterious $" finally explained while "The Mysterious Arguments" implies there might be even more to come... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 18:00:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55767183497; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:59:30 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F078AF4ED@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) Thread-Index: Acura4I+pAy3AiEtSsWmv7Wx6WR8wQABBx0g References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2011 18:00:09.0679 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F9C75F0:01CBAB70] Resent-Message-ID: <_pKelB.A.zRD.r6gINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:00:11 +0000 (UTC) My fav gear I refound this year is a 1926 Gibson K4 Mandocello, I had = had it strung as octave mandolin for about 15 years, and there it = languished, it just wasn't happy, I am a Gibson endorsee and when their = acoustic factory flooded in Nashville, the head of mandos, Dave Harvey = was in process of restoring it, and he got it out of there just as the = flood waters reached the door of the building, saved, finished and back = to true mandocello form, aswesome!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 12:27 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board = (boss slicer) One of my favorite discoveries last year is my Digitech TimeBender. I have only scratched the surface and find new sounds every time I sit down with it. I do wish it had more than 4 presets With a ex ped youcan actually get more than that though. this guy does a couple of great demo vids here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4arlipIwfIk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhHRk2HO-kpo It also has the extremely bright blue led that I had to put tape over. peace out, Jeff On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Paul Pokorski = wrote: > Kinda in a similar mode....I picked up a Behringer RV600 Reverb = Machine and > a EM600 Echo Machine. They are fairly inexpensive (approx. $50 USD). I > believe the Reverb Machine is a copy of the Line 6 Verbzilla. Anyway, = for > the money, they are really excellent pedals. Lots of great tonal > options/features. Bright (VERY bright) blue LED's that I have to cover = up > with my finger to make an adjustment to the pedal. Anyway, for those = on a > budget, check 'em out! > > Butch > > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Rick Walker = wrote: >> >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: >>> >>> Yep, like the DD-20, this one is a sleeper. =A0There are some very = cool >>> things that you can get it to do, with a little advanced thought. >> >> Would you be into resinging those praises, =A0Duke. >> I've never used a dedicated digital delay stomp box pedal but >> I'm suddenly really hankering to learn how to do that. >> I've heard people talk about the coolness of the DD-20 but never = really >> known what hip alternative things it can do. >> >> and sorry for asking so much from you. =A0 Your posts have just = really lit a >> fire under >> me today on this first day of 2011. >> >> Great way to start. =A0Thanks for your creativity. >> >> rick walker >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 18:13:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CA9A183490; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y5XSm8+GGDw80a7EdAZNA3ocnBpdRQqi1tDyR3J849I=; b=gz2WlmHMZJVAqGTb/6wv5/xm/UiGrOSshMNfmsrv9xHH3mlMi26KJsRalLuO1he0YD yxTB17kDZ/8I3LQ7SkXIBlEg4NgkAFN9djUSFgC7k28FsoubJTRHflvvrU8UsGvNlXdH 7iuAVg3BLjQ0eFgi2Bb349G4UBQaEJXVb4BXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TwQzwa2MW4rB6j9WjPzufV1fP7SRB37G+c6iNgP91gQgQfOaWfVRyBc3yQBXqUGLJU pPbsEGtR90+JrYPU8RNiaTse2lVoik3u53ieFBan0d/GCT8zNh1C4XPwvRJmkUygguXj FWNNOOzv6tutra9aR+RZwJNBJotPFClttW5pY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:13:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:13:33 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > One of my favorite discoveries last year is my Digitech TimeBender. I > have only scratched the surface and find new sounds every time I sit > down with it. I do wish it had more than 4 presets With a ex ped > youcan =C2=A0actually get more than that though. > > this guy does a couple of great demo vids here. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4arlipIwfIk > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhHRk2HO-kpo Seems to be a cool pedal! Gives some sonic tools similar to the PSP N2O software plugin I reported of four days ago. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 18:17:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDB0B183499; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UQDEXsRwky6/SKHSQjg6eJEyq4U4Y8oFzBkW8xTO+Tc=; b=FPWFTYvrHZusD16kN52ZVWTtxVuXX2ekTJgDwUwYLMw21zhiqzjTBiFII+EqqLZk9R +BBS3dou7jcfzal12OBAqW7J068VWCfYkUk+u5DbzhmTaHPRBpqle7W3ab/nPTuLDMw/ UqLpxX9gq6PopHS/cJ4qkvrdo6fvTOUJznxlU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Jbf47q0Xj2cTHNeuL0+S0SAJSZlvw7XZmh8EZ1pzyGffgYVR9UbSxdGJcVl/5CYCvh 5mBSzlsOL36fEVnt89D5ju7P6Bpd1NjhvGzW08lww6z5c04go3fX8X4Z4dYhg2nlWmbA ThalCK8wqfax0L3aJUayyPLMyPYAD2YFXTL3M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D20EC57.8010509@cruzio.com> <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:17:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:17:27 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:00 PM, mark francombe wrote: > PS: did we just hi-jack this thread BTW? sorry.. darn u lappy gangsters!!! Per Police From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 18:38:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DE7F18349B; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D22177F.7080504@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:37:51 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Hamburg , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Q Steps (SUS = Substitute) commands in the LP-1 References: <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:37:59 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > So, first of all: Cool that the Looperlative can exploit SUS commands if only for a Replace and Replace+Original -- though interestingly not QReplace. With all respect, you need to keep digging, Mark, The momentary (SUS) nature of midi commands does work with QReplace. It's one of the constant tricks of my performances. I actually lobbied successfully for it's inclusion, originally, because I loved the SUS = Substitute functionality of my EDP and wanted something similar in the LP-1. But I might understand why you thought differently because you have to go two places in the machine's menu to set it up correctly So, not to assume, but in case you didn't know, here's how you do it: Q steps are assigned per track on the Looperlative (and NOT in the main menu) If you hit a track number 7, say, and then scroll through all of the options for that individual track you will hit QSteps and can then set an integer value which will represent the rhythmic value that the LP-1 will slice the track into (silently). On my Looperlative I set track 1 to 4/4 in 16th note increments (Qsteps = 16) track 2 4/4 in 8th notes (Q = 8) track 3 4/4 in triplet 8th notes (Q = 12) track 4 in some large number that isn't divisible by 2 (i.e., Q = 53) for glitching track 5 5/4 in 8th notes (Q = 10) track 6 6/8 in 8th notes (Q=6) track 7 7/8 in 8th notes (Q = 7) track 8 9/8 in 8th notes (Q = 9) In this way, I have most of the common time signatures and musical slice values that I'll need in a piece of music. In order to get this to work you need to program a button on your midi pedals (back in the main menu) with Q replace on the first command and Q replace on the second command. (I'm not even sure why this is necessary but I know practically that it is) Now, every time you make a momentary press, the machine will replace the very next full 'slice' (or Q) with whatever it is that you are playing currently. This is a beautiful technique. I use it in a very 'square' wave heavy handed way, but people like my brother use it in conjunction with other settings including different feedback settings. I hope that helps you. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 18:53:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EBDE18349F; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D221B1D.1060101@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:53:17 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dustbunnies CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:53:23 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: > My next experiment was going to be to add a multi-effect into the feedback > loop, between Unit 2's output and Unit 1's second input. So you could then > apply other effects (pitchshift, bit-reduction, or maybe yet another delay!) > to the Susoverdubbed parts before printing them back onto the original loop. > > Unfortunately, never had the time to implement that last part.... Oh, this is SUCH a juicy idea. Shit, bad GAS coming on...................because of you I'm probably going to have to go out and buy two DD-20s (and they're pricey, aren't they). This makes me think: wouldn't it be hip to have a side chain in your effects whose wet volume could be controlled in an on/off way by a non-latched pedal so you could glitch processing in and out. I imagine this might be simply done by merely circuit bending a typical A/B loop pedal (so that you could plug in a controlling non-latch pedal) In a way, that's what I was going for in the Walker Manual Glitch Box (which is controlled by four momentary (edp styled) buttons that allow one to glitch between two audio states. 1) button pushed = (audio in, pink noise, white noise or silence) 2) button not pushed = (audio in , pink noise, white noise or silence) (then, parenthetically, each state can be controlled in real time with Volume, Frequency Range, Q) Glitching with one hand (with either finger drum or guitar hammer on techniques) and controlling the timbre with the other hand. By the way, Bill Putnam will be bringing me a new, very compact box with a powerful processor in it this week so we can see if we can get this concept into a much smaller footprint (though I love how industrially sized the prototype is). Who knows......we might be able to make it commercially available at some point. Don't hold your breath, but I'm suddenly optimistic. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 19:03:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98FC71834A2; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=8217O2tF4fobCHJpE+MJFCb7rmWUawSPovjIfa15c98=; b=fRpeAPvHZ3Ox9Akx1y8EybQQY/qmbinNv8GvKROWdDlGohBL5qgXKoCiVkM72nBPYS fHAyflNzpyAvJn9TjHqWwKMIUEc0RzNfRlvmrNDon1xEKcDi0Z7aZ517Eo39Z4CuvMuJ zWCBTnFKZqeycJAluSETLdvnfw/xietB35f8w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OsFw1JaGa7tR6ik8/ISI7MUJdlKXxggp1mV7SAhN2/XYQwd4T7q1Ij29vuk9bt8/mr rYJ3NoXjMCVf6ijQgJegMBii2qptRG2ssQtjHr4mGP4hm8PbdUzz5A9ddZqwp+4C+VOz 5O5zdU/wD6EBdSFD1gj5L7VZYQ70pLU77oRBo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:03:22 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: RsbZaDHzdAvyJ6kpxtM_MucCdEM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius loop windowing simulation To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e83847e71240498f5cf05 Resent-Message-ID: <3Dv6kC.A.OEF.Q2hINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:03:45 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e83847e71240498f5cf05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > That would be easier. Set a start point, wait for 1/2 second or whatever, > then jump backward, wait another 1/2 second, jump back, etc. > Yes... but I wouldnt want it to be based on seconds, rather ones 8th per cycle setting... Thunking aloud here, but maybe it could be a 2 stage command. Window Start, and window.. er.. close.. so that would have to be Window OPEN I guess ha ha... So window open, would start looping ONLY the sub-cycle you were currently in, WITHOUT erasing what came before or after. (Probably sound the same as a trim start/end) but then a SLIP command, would take you to the next, but previously hidden, section of the loop, or the previous section of the loop, depending on the slip command. Window Close, would stop the sub cycle looping and the loop would continue to play next time it hit the sub cycle boundary? This way I think you have most flexibility, you can have as big or as little a window as you like by setting the 8th setting, then you can use any type of manipulation to bring parts of the loop into the window, and then when you want to come out you can just let go, and "close the fucking window!" Just brainstormin... (alot more fun than brainstorming a script for a corporate values film for Atmel in San Jose ... yawn..) Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e83847e71240498f5cf05 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
That would be easier. =A0Set a start point, wait for 1/2 second or wha= tever,
then jump backward, wait another 1/2 second, jump back, etc. =A0
=

Yes... but I wouldnt want it to be based = on seconds, rather ones 8th per cycle setting...
Thunking aloud here, b= ut maybe it could be a 2 stage command. Window Start, and window.. er.. clo= se.. so that would have to be Window OPEN I guess ha ha...

So window open, would start looping ONLY the sub-cycle you were current= ly in, WITHOUT erasing what came before or after. (Probably sound the same = as a trim start/end) but then a SLIP command, would take you to the next, b= ut previously hidden, section of the loop, or the previous section of the l= oop, depending on the slip command.

Window Close, would stop the sub cycle looping and the loop would conti= nue to play next time it hit the sub cycle boundary?

This way I thin= k you have most flexibility, you can have as big or as little a window as y= ou like by setting the 8th setting, then you can use any type of manipulati= on to bring parts of the loop into the window, and then when you want to co= me out you can just let go, and "close the fucking window!"

Just brainstormin...

(alot more fun than brainstorming a script= for a corporate values film for Atmel in San Jose ... yawn..)

Mark<= br>


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--90e6ba6e83847e71240498f5cf05-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 19:04:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20B431834A3; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=4LyZ6M9b9wrtGmVElIhYPxUeO0J/QgLc3u0MDgg8CcA=; b=s/amBIDTbXdDVjN7NJ2NmWwGlHTnvSr6z4a2TgU1FfWyKeWIIo6/IoXoIDBlmLaH/c W4z0o7+H8YTj6qx1iFzwCkkhBqt3qr5sDYxI+ynRDSYdgfCQji/NmbSxGlbwXoWONmMT oe6r4Qr7HjQTyUI+QPEU4rpX2NLVDATgbYr98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=EwN4qRJOInLiHBGajQVjqbg0aAxaZRhbacwOpA5TreXB0CTRANroCGe611O+ySYTIs 3kTOo+X969Mk6AKwWuwMiAWBqUjpmvhut+dSTLTCHW2RsZ3upA7vgo35XUHkRe3d6jnl lr3zYdy5aglKr2tovNKEKXtlPh7Q/WpgIxJ44= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:04:03 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TuChczvIW8q2N12seoLBg0C0FYg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius loop windowing simulation To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8a4cf5f5f20498f5d10b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:04:24 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8a4cf5f5f20498f5d10b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 nice! On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > I just uploaded a reference manual, you can get it (and the others) here. > > http://www.circularlabs.com/documentation/documentation.html > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8a4cf5f5f20498f5d10b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice!

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Je= ff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
I just uploaded a reference manual, you can get it (and the others) he= re.




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--90e6ba6e8a4cf5f5f20498f5d10b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 19:11:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AA0D1834AA; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D221F43.1090207@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:10:59 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative References: <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Shit, if it was either Dre or Claude I apologize profusely. I always want to give credit where credit is due but my memory can get really fuzzy these days, I have to admit. rick walker On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > Rick Walker wrote: > >> I'll probably mangle this, but my understanding is that 'Loop Windowing' >> was a bug that people deemed fascinating so they left it in (I can't >> remember who >> was it's champion but I imagine it was either Andy Butler or , >> perhaps, Andre LaFosse--- >> historians, please weigh in here with accuracy, my mind is very >> fuzzy and I want >> to give credit where credit is due). > > Loop windowing was discovered in Loop3, before my time. > Andre was keen on it, I remember, and Claude Voit. > > andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 19:12:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 670C71834BA; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 559424764/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.177.225/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.177.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AucBAE+uIU1V0rHh/2dsb2JhbAAMlgzLGoVKBI4V X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,268,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="559424764" Message-ID: <4D221F9B.4090806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 19:12:27 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Q Steps (SUS = Substitute) commands in the LP-1 References: <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> <4D22177F.7080504@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D22177F.7080504@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > In order to get this to work you need to program a button on your midi > pedals > (back in the main menu) with Q replace on the first command and Q > replace on the second command. > (I'm not even sure why this is necessary but I know practically that it is) The first QReplace command causes the lP1 to wait for the next quantise point, then it goes into Replace and also blocks the LP1 from processing any more commands until the next quantise point is reached. The Second Quantise command then ends the Replace. It's actually not a SUS function in any sense except that it mimics how the EDP deals with quantised SUS in the cases when the button is released *before* the function starts. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 19:12:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B41F31834C5; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D221FB3.8000101@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:12:51 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ANDY BUTLER , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Q Steps (SUS = Substitute) commands in the LP-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:12:57 +0000 (UTC) I just posted without reading your Andy's post about SUS commands and my post was inaccurate after reading his, stating that true SUS commands are not possible in the LP-1. (wouldn't that be fairly easy to program into the software of the unit, out of curiosity?) I guess it can't do SUS commands but the effect seems very similar to the SUS = Substitute function in the EDP when it was used with a quantized press. Now it's been so long since I've done this I might be mangling the command sequence but anyone who's used this function in the EDP knows what I'm talking about. I always used SUS = Substitute in a momentary way to create silent glitching in a loop but I found that I can get much shorter glitches by setting Q steps to a fairly high integer, so the effect is very, very close to the same audibly (in fact, I'll bet I could put both units side by side and people would be hard pressed to hear the difference , save the better fidelity and stereo functionality of the LP-1). rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 19:15:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 555DF1834CE; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D222065.8090007@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:15:49 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Awesome idea, Mark. Can you put up an audio example of this approach? I'm so stimulated by your and Duke's technique inventions this past week. and Happy New Years to you and your lovely family, love, rick walker On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > What I love to do with Loop Windowing is to make a real long loop (on > my second EDP), with many multiplies and overdubs.. then all of a > sudden hit multiply rec as fast as poss, to make a tiny buzzing loop. > Then I hit play on my drum-machine that just has a lot of G7s > programmed in a row. (G7 is the midi note for UNDO on the EDP) The > drum machine is not heard, its just sending midi notes to the EDP.. at > 32nds of the beat. The drum machines speed in comparison to the EDP is > set by my first EDPs 8ths setting as the EDP sends midi clock at this > value. Then the second EDP loop windows at that speed thru the whole > memory of the EDP... if the loop was very long and the new loop very > short it can last an eternity! > > My life these days is spent trying to find an equivalent sound in > mobius... Im afraid I have been unsuccessful... > > Mark > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 19:20:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E05E51834D8; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=lYd8NokwRBXNguSBGVpFj2mlaZ9DoQpTC+IXUcJ+aK4=; b=UyE89cd4zm5COgQA0udR/VG3pBaxsIyz6vJFBTcu12zpC6pvtv10ej0KfwvrrvN7qY 48AhBf5w5q7+6xwfhDyGn7aKahC5IQtXCjtpdIxb/+dCOMbEqaVqZ5r8FVCcpTisn3TJ 1fXIFP2AJRQnAokSeoOLq3+yt4ilz4VmMaEGo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=G/48qjvTd+gFtMBEJ37hEK3otJtuVWdFQLGYVGbk3rYUNiPaA8NRij2tyAjNHC10M1 78u+EOLWg4ysjIen/VSyDP4pLOYdMnKhICN94IUwayP+aub2tG9HwX6VGCSDstTE71Tm sZCwz3VT7wDxRsXXt/ROBpI9spwzfNc8eqQ/A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D221F43.1090207@cruzio.com> References: <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> <4D221F43.1090207@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:20:21 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Ky0wgdXlsx1bYujbk0DDaQM5fw0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a673c3e030498f60ce1 Resent-Message-ID: <2wy-oB.A.Z3F.KGiINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:20:42 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a673c3e030498f60ce1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 TBH Rick... although Andre certainly "made it his funky groov thang"... Loop windowing really is just a built in, everyday, bit of EDP Bread and Butter, for anyone who uses an EDP, the reason I say this is because it really just the way the EDP does UNDO. So if you undo, you are kinda windowing... at least if you have changed the length of the loop AT ALL... longer OR shorter, some kind of loop windowing will occur. Its one of the beutiful things about playing with an EDP, you stomp about inserting, multiplying up, multiplying down undo a bit, long multiply, insert a few subs, over dun over the lot twice, multiply out as you play, cut it right back to a glitch, and undo... and WHAM... all sorts of wonderful snippets of memories pop out.. its almost like a broken mirror of sound, little fragments of the sound pictures reflecting tiny pieces of long forgotton sounds... *long toke* ---- exhale... um... and... um.... where was I? Mark On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Shit, if it was either Dre or Claude > I apologize profusely. > > I always want to give credit where credit is due > but my memory can get really fuzzy these days, I have to admit. > > rick walker > > > > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> Rick Walker wrote: >> >> I'll probably mangle this, but my understanding is that 'Loop Windowing' >>> was a bug that people deemed fascinating so they left it in (I can't >>> remember who >>> was it's champion but I imagine it was either Andy Butler or , perhaps, >>> Andre LaFosse--- >>> historians, please weigh in here with accuracy, my mind is very fuzzy >>> and I want >>> to give credit where credit is due). >>> >> >> Loop windowing was discovered in Loop3, before my time. >> Andre was keen on it, I remember, and Claude Voit. >> >> andy >> > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549a673c3e030498f60ce1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TBH Rick... although Andre certainly "made it his funky groov thang&qu= ot;... Loop windowing really is just a built in, everyday, bit of EDP Bread= and Butter, for anyone who uses an EDP, the reason I say this is because i= t really just the way the EDP does UNDO.
So if you undo, you are kinda windowing... at least if you have changed the= length of the loop AT ALL... longer OR shorter, some kind of loop windowin= g will occur. Its one of the beutiful things about playing with an EDP, you= stomp about inserting, multiplying up, multiplying down undo a bit, long m= ultiply, insert a few subs, over dun over the lot twice, multiply out as yo= u play, cut it right back to a glitch, and undo... and WHAM... all sorts of= wonderful snippets of memories pop out.. its almost like a broken mirror o= f sound, little fragments of the sound pictures reflecting tiny pieces of l= ong forgotton sounds... *long toke* ---- exhale... um... and... um.... wher= e was I?


Mark

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:10 = PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Shit, =A0if it was either Dre or Claude
I apologize profusely.

I always want to give credit where credit is due
but my memory can get really fuzzy these days, I have to admit.

rick walker





On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
Rick Walker wrote:

I'll probably mangle this, but my understanding is that 'Loop Windo= wing'
was a bug that people deemed fascinating so they left it in (I can't re= member who
was it's champion but I imagine it was either Andy Butler or , perhaps,= =A0Andre LaFosse---
historians, please weigh in here with accuracy, =A0my mind is very fuzzy an= d I want
to give credit where credit is due).

Loop windowing was discovered in Loop3, before my time.
Andre was keen on it, I remember, and Claude Voit.

andy




--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf30549a673c3e030498f60ce1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 19:30:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 359DC1834D5; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2223BA.1050509@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:30:03 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Computer good enough for Live Looping? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2SX-W.A.3NG.CPiINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:30:10 +0000 (UTC) A website advertisement, today, announced a $450 price on this laptop computer The HP ProBook 4520s XT943UT laptop with Intel Core i3-370M 2.40GHz processor and 2GB DDR3 Memory 15.6-inch HD anti-glare LED-backlit Display 802.11b/g/n wireless connectivity Bluetooth 2.1 +EDR Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit Operating System Would you advanced laptop looping or laptop video projecting folks think that this is a good enough machine to handle, say the Virtual EDP, Mobius and Plogue or Ableton's Live in a live situation? Does such a computer have the capacity for more RAM? I've had such a horrible experience with my 17" Macbook Pro ($3500 of repairs in a non stop stream for the 4 years I've owned it and my Apple Care is just about to expire) that I'm considering selling it (everything's, literally, been replaced so it's practically brand new except for the case) and jumping back into the Windows laptop world. Finances are tight so this is a very, very attractive price but I don't want to buy another computer that doesn't work for my needs, ever, so I want to get it right this time. Your advice is greatly appreciated. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 19:43:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE8741834B9; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2226C5.7020905@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:43:02 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) References: <498443E5-CDF7-4694-B9D4-D52B62AD7AA6@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <498443E5-CDF7-4694-B9D4-D52B62AD7AA6@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:43:10 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > ..... just dont wanna sell it if it can loop. Like the instrument sounds on it, > bit complicated for an 18 yr old that just wants to play mando and write songs all day!!! God, that warms my heart because that's all I've been doing lately (adding a few other instruments to the mando)!!!! I need to dust off my LP-1 and start getting some of this stuff down, but I'm having too much fun learning how to play guitar (or learning how to simulate playing the guitar as the case may be). rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 20:04:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67C981834C0; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2223BA.1050509@cruzio.com> References: <4D2223BA.1050509@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:04:09 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Computer good enough for Live Looping? From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ca7bca9d65b0498f6a732 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:04:11 +0000 (UTC) --0015175ca7bca9d65b0498f6a732 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The specs look pretty good. 2GB is the minimum I would get, processor speed is good enough. It looks like you can upgrade the RAM to 4GB. It doesn't have a firewire port so you will need a USB audio interface. The cheapest price I found was $444.99 at Newegg.com. Here's a review: http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/527437/review/probook_4520s.html The problem with recommending computers for audio is that while on the surface the specs may look fine, trying to run an audio application with pro audio hardware at low latencies can uncover problems that you won't notice with business software. Things like the video card and the motherboard chipsets can effect how low you can tune your latency and you won't notice this until you try or you can find someone with similar needs that has posted a review (I couldn't find any). So make sure you have 30 days to return it and be prepared to test what you're interested in within that time. With that warning, it looks like it should be fine for Mobius and Bidule and I would assume the Virtual EDP. Loopers aren't particularly demanding of CPU but they do love memory. I don't have Windows 7, does anyone know how much memory it consumes? 2GB is fine for Windows XP but if Windows 7 is going to consume 1.5 GB just siting there then you may have to get more. For advanced video and audio processing beyond looping, you might need more horsepower. This is obviously a low-end machine designed for people running Word and Excel. I don't know what all is involved with video processing on a laptop but I probably wouldn't go with anything less than a dual-core with 4GB. Jeff --0015175ca7bca9d65b0498f6a732 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The specs look pretty good. =A02GB is the minimum = I would get, processor speed=A0
is good enough. =A0It looks like = you can upgrade the RAM to 4GB. =A0It doesn't
have a firewire= port so you will need a USB audio interface. =A0The cheapest=A0
price I found was $444.99 at Newegg.com.

Here= 's a review:


The problem with recommending computers for audio is th= at while on the
surface the specs may look fine, trying to run an= audio application
with pro audio hardware at low latencies can u= ncover problems that
you won't notice with business software. =A0Things like the video = card
and the motherboard chipsets can effect how low you can tune= your
latency and you won't notice this until you try or you = can find
someone with similar needs that has posted a review (I couldn't
find any).

So make sure you have 30 days t= o return it and be prepared to test
what you're interested in= within that time. =A0

With that warning, it looks like it should be fine for = Mobius and
Bidule and I would assume the Virtual EDP. =A0Loopers = aren't particularly
demanding of CPU but they do love memory.= =A0I don't have Windows 7,=A0
does anyone know how much memory it consumes? =A02GB is fine for Windo= ws
XP but if Windows 7 is going to consume 1.5 GB just siting the= re then
you may have to get more.

For ad= vanced video and audio processing beyond looping, you might
need more horsepower. =A0This is obviously a low-end machine designed<= /div>
for people running Word and Excel. =A0I don't know what all i= s involved
with video processing on a laptop but I probably would= n't go with anything
less than a dual-core with 4GB.

Jeff

--0015175ca7bca9d65b0498f6a732-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 20:07:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C41EA1834D2; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cd66O14c0zqCNhT0C6irXWMmqu47F5hdrrfKS0roWOw=; b=AicEYdobhbFcqRgVn53oflfurUx5nXJZ4LHSzy8dky2MF2enx9ZTjjM6W1pK/Ff5ih WCxgpsX+O2yIth7n+lgrn6xLMVGZy/XRzVlQYmOHtPNZedYBP1mAZZF4pYdf5M9sJuvv OKLwt71Z3QEiqMphEexLRZ0MAjtItoYbDZ240= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OU4P3VpmnpjufwSYCuCLlzbUdn6bGZzzkF6jpJweew8N2hYhoAADynPg3OGop1Pptd 3Tsjz+4s3lqSU9d86QQUzDHZzQJEFG/Cf4FCG+WnyndUJwU/0XsYYRvpoTuHnHxDNOUh +A2FuMsdlyYH5A9MbZqyWSrISTU/VU3dW181I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2223BA.1050509@cruzio.com> References: <4D2223BA.1050509@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:07:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Computer good enough for Live Looping? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:07:13 +0000 (UTC) I googled "Intel Core i3-370M" and found more specifications than those you posted. Since I know you do a lot of video work I wouldn't dare buying this one because of the shared graphic memory. When combining video and audio you have to remember that audio is real-time and then shared video may cause bad interruptions. Eight gig RAM option will be fine in the fine future. "Two cores" and "two threads" sound good enough. 64 bit instruction set is great IF all your software are up to it. SSE if essential (optimization for the pentium CPU). Well, see for yourself at http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=3D49020 Please note that I have not read up on the latest regarding these pentiums and Windows 7 when it comes to the possible shared graphics stuff. You might look for some music forum thread that deals with it, maybe at Gearslutz, Ableton's or the Bidule forum. I might be wrong in my skepticism. At Ableton they have this standing thread where everyone runs a test song on there computer and posts the CPU load for discussion; a lot of useful lappy knowledge spilled there. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > A website advertisement, today, =C2=A0announced a > $450 price on this laptop computer > > The HP ProBook 4520s XT943UT laptop with > Intel Core i3-370M 2.40GHz processor and 2GB DDR3 Memory > 15.6-inch HD anti-glare LED-backlit Display > 802.11b/g/n wireless connectivity > Bluetooth 2.1 +EDR > Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit Operating System > > > Would you advanced laptop looping or laptop video projecting folks think > that this is a good enough machine > to handle, say =C2=A0the Virtual EDP, Mobius and Plogue or Ableton's Live > in a live situation? > > Does such a computer have the capacity for more RAM? > > I've had such a horrible experience with my 17" Macbook Pro > ($3500 of repairs in a non stop stream for the 4 years I've owned it > and my Apple Care is just about to expire) > that I'm considering selling it (everything's, literally, been replaced > so it's practically brand new except for the case) and > jumping back into the Windows laptop world. > > Finances are tight so this is a very, very attractive price but > I don't want to buy another computer that doesn't work for my needs, ever= , > so I want to get it right this time. > > Your advice is greatly appreciated. > > rick walker > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 20:08:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 902B71834E4; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MtMgvueYeQq92yuFcV8zvxcIysBULutUhMw+3ovCorM=; b=lQ6rt2fKxTu7Nvg7iah3+PgW+xHAa7kJtWan+JgpA8oGUjSmbqIW7QVtqcW4eoLUuT VYXvktexgdhM3vyGZPiSpci3J7NpgK9+Qr0QGCmuIKLdFzHqDxlH2DpkPRRGQRERlDWX +sP/t4jXd2+cjGQIQOtU37jQ5ahKLOvhYwOjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LhNb5c8ZavMWTEXr9ZejMLmV2JSL8t9YCubQrEnV73Z7FYoWGGCfh43dSYqfHSpZRo RKmwkkRNC5OVpJZIXhO/QtV1AYw9HVuRsgG+1jJ3iry+6N04OoXiUrPzYr8Ia6LUmeJR 88hzcJjHhRY4NPpizNTfQHx1Fa7a8qwp9EiCU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2223BA.1050509@cruzio.com> References: <4D2223BA.1050509@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:08:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Computer good enough for Live Looping? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:08:04 +0000 (UTC) I googled "Intel Core i3-370M" and found more specifications than those you posted. Since I know you do a lot of video work I wouldn't dare buying this one because of the shared graphic memory. When combining video and audio you have to remember that audio is real-time and then shared video may cause bad interruptions. Eight gig RAM option will be fine in the fine future. "Two cores" and "two threads" sounds good enough. 64 bit instruction set is great IF all your software are up to it. SSE if essential (optimization for the pentium CPU). Well, see for yourself at http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=3D49020 Please note that I have not read up on the latest regarding these pentiums and Windows 7 when it comes to the possible shared graphics stuff. You might look for some music forum thread that deals with it, maybe at Gearslutz, Ableton's or the Bidule forum. I might be wrong in my skepticism. At Ableton they have this standing thread where everyone runs a test song on there computer and posts the CPU load for discussion; a lot of useful lappy knowledge spilled there. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > A website advertisement, today, =C2=A0announced a > $450 price on this laptop computer > > The HP ProBook 4520s XT943UT laptop with > Intel Core i3-370M 2.40GHz processor and 2GB DDR3 Memory > 15.6-inch HD anti-glare LED-backlit Display > 802.11b/g/n wireless connectivity > Bluetooth 2.1 +EDR > Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit Operating System > > > Would you advanced laptop looping or laptop video projecting folks think > that this is a good enough machine > to handle, say =C2=A0the Virtual EDP, Mobius and Plogue or Ableton's Live > in a live situation? > > Does such a computer have the capacity for more RAM? > > I've had such a horrible experience with my 17" Macbook Pro > ($3500 of repairs in a non stop stream for the 4 years I've owned it > and my Apple Care is just about to expire) > that I'm considering selling it (everything's, literally, been replaced > so it's practically brand new except for the case) and > jumping back into the Windows laptop world. > > Finances are tight so this is a very, very attractive price but > I don't want to buy another computer that doesn't work for my needs, ever= , > so I want to get it right this time. > > Your advice is greatly appreciated. > > rick walker > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 20:09:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FDA01834DC; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wAcQfmn5y4Uw+MgxU+uJ5CgBiBjsuMCnRym0wwFKlYI=; b=jCfucFdG/iAPbSCWg1ruAsO6A5r0LdCKRSGbcF1g3pNgm7OuylfgY5ii+IXflKn32V 3EtplY0Ug+ARQmFA8TsSq6TRyAi4McxyCeIdwallOCc2rTwjPQMRejN2LEfziPTdcPyL dDoKGKNkX3SyeFsnYspx8nZpJUipUpE7RNnjI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZDAgBlmynzccVUITB4nXe3vXdPuj7Z40d+GcXCgnV4UHs/uUfhnx5AigAGvP2IB3jH AKqw7p7C2B9PolcY/c+Tm1QNKT2ym5CjDaU+0yTG6LQJWzhd0vtqp+O3/WHb8I6xGIQw arpnY578ymkZWxqt+YQdgkY6/emR8kDN+/eoE= Message-ID: <4D222D04.8050704@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 21:09:40 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Computer good enough for Live Looping? References: <4D2223BA.1050509@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D2223BA.1050509@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > A website advertisement, today, announced a > $450 price on this laptop computer > > The HP ProBook 4520s XT943UT laptop with > > > Would you advanced laptop looping or laptop video projecting folks > think that this is a good enough machine > to handle, say the Virtual EDP, Mobius and Plogue or Ableton's Live > in a live situation? > > Does such a computer have the capacity for more RAM? First, a word of caution: I don't know that specific model, and my first-hand experience with HP laptops is years old. That being said... * According to HPs website, RAM can be expanded to a maximum of 8GB. So "yes". (Note, however, that you may not have that much fun w/ more than 3GB of RAM in combination with the included Windows 7 Home Basic 32). * The processor is a very advanced version of the low-cost branch of the Nehalem family. It uses an integrated graphics CPU, but is only so-so when it comes to power consumption (so if you're going for long times on battery power, this may not be the perfect choice). Performance-wise, it's somewhere in the middle between a three-year old upper-middleclass laptop and a three-year-old lower-upperclass desktop - in other words: you should be perfectly able to do a lot of fun stuff. For comparions: the CPU is more than 4 times faster than that of the computer I used back in 2006 to run Ableton Live, three softsynths, Mobius (on two stereo tracks) a a few delays - at the same time. * There's an important thing for live audio use, it's called "DPC latency". Didn't find any mention of it in any reviews, so if you find that - that should be in the sub-us range to be good. * Are you using it with an USB or with a ieee1394 interface? In case of the latter one, the DPC latency (see above) should also include the card bus (because you would add iee1394 via express card). Apart from that dpc latency unknown - looks fine. Can't comment on the price, though... Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 20:12:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E9311834F9; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fiPmVPT69qTVQtYrKt+kN3m0G8TRqGIsPzDAYhKCXGQ=; b=ExxYIpZiibm94gqITg+JBXK+ZUqJUasb5DpViP1ZqiGXT7Gggnx+2QJdyVzpZNq2IR XmSP3l1q+/QoWvJJnQGfswm6nCyCH3yuEEFyTks+zjsDWf1EnVvWTK2iPR6S59mtrkA1 lZbJMTuMASpBMKwSocuEH5nW5ygIk9W3g4tDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HGUCKmUwo6hfbxX8N3dcKvIJXVfKyFGkmQc5qD68O1qmmoGoIzBWgv5oLbefla6mHo f1py/5/4swuNDB7q/ohXnGy5n+pT9ZyO57bz2f19qt7dAs/YmhBvLhFcj7gaz1ZfKJRP u4rKnR0Vwv4yBfBWElrBo7Qkn06E8yxCD/Dss= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2226C5.7020905@cruzio.com> References: <498443E5-CDF7-4694-B9D4-D52B62AD7AA6@1800dialword.com> <4D2226C5.7020905@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:12:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: (re)-discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:12:57 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > fun learning how to play guitar (or learning how to simulate playing the > guitar as the case may be). Simulating IS the real thing! You're spot on! :-)) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 20:20:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02504183505; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=k4DI9s7GeeetVtxzpQF+m04EIDzjxFd4bBz07d6CILQ=; b=vSshYw8mWWjsywMJsLFjsgVwBeTVtfOMvNahi7Icnri65WuR5K57Uqf80OMKdlC0jV 7Afg+068sj5F3Ly7x3eIXXndiPckFa52H23L8B+muRZMbV8Z6tKrvylfO+GuFhGU9M6/ 0P76uYMQihCIzci8vk2uRdn50EQspQPOAX50o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Mnl5g8bo04FLqqxh1GBa4aYw2sCkbBIHHM4y+l4lImzH0S1oRkXuQsxJh9KhPwaRTG EBMqUvSSFDoLX0R6lRPovWPxIQ6fSKD0/T5OLZ3MYnVO+0HjoHLXZqpgCFHkBr2gIumz /5VcDzbHZ1zeF4Uq6gUv8UBmvxva3qGvFaENg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D21DA6D.30407@tiscali.co.uk> <4D221F43.1090207@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:20:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:20:05 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:20 PM, mark francombe wrote: > WHAM... > like a broken mirror of sound, > little fragments of the sound pictures > reflecting tiny pieces of long forgotton sounds.. There's poetry in the air tonight... Makes me wanna jump out the loop window - yeah! I KNOW I CAN FLYYYyyyyy....... P ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 20:30:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC60F1834D8; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HlRuK/s10zrBi+4HxFlNDen0WIV7PxUrko5IvpRD44s=; b=hOH4pq/KKTpUVWf7r0WhR0QtfQ6M5gTSpXznT4a74T6vtp6cwU7tbG3sXbnvpkn193 UermZtR/OCwtGKzlJll/+rBtYO5qauu/LmtiJU/dgbYr5ZV+iCZ0AyQLOaw+/Nv1bA3I FXpnYovEOeoC4voCJ3M/mv0Ih746o7PNZnlO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lhW+3rSQvEXCV1ZlpZrNCYt3zt8xX9i5FZWZDbOwrHAV0PO73Rd8amsoJl0mhqe7nC ePUMbgvX/RoAYLLadGPWK5KwnQJrE9SgmPkPMlCPNx6asy0d17IURph52gKW5b9K2/Lt ThZSMRiIu7+oiJyhesNT6ei1A4WeG16uoJ5Cw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:30:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius loop windowing simulation From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:30:20 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:03 PM, mark francombe wrote: > So window open, would start looping ONLY the sub-cycle you were currently > in, WITHOUT erasing what came before or after. (Probably sound the same as a > trim start/end) but then a SLIP command, would take you to the next, but > previously hidden, section of the loop, or the previous section of the loop, > depending on the slip command. Reminds me of a great feature of those old 12 bit EMax samplers. For a sampled audio file you could set the start point and loop point much closer to each other than the total length of the sample. Then you could sweep this loop range through the sample IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. So by setting an extremely short loop and sweeping it through a vocal recording people came up with he first "robot voices" in techno. I've always wondered why no software developers have picked up that awesome technique in modern sound design tools. If the Emax sampler example would work with a random function for placing the loop range (start point and loop point fixed in relation to each other) we would have LOOP WINDOWING even though told in broken EDPish. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 20:35:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E756A1834D5; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D223399.20403@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 21:37:45 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Computer good enough for Live Looping? References: <4D2223BA.1050509@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_mnfnC.A.REB.0LjINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:35:00 +0000 (UTC) AFAIK, the i3 is quite a lot better at handling share ram for system and graphics than earlier processors. A friend of mine is using them a lot for various purposes, like media centers. However, if also used for dedicated video editing, I'd think an i3 may not provice the juice. The i5/i7 series is likely a different ballgame for such applications. Not knowiing the current selling price nor if this will be enough, if budget is a Bit tight, maybe a used Lenovo R500. This is a scaled-down business model, with separate ATI 1000-series graphics for the external monitor likely used for graphics anyways (build-in display is only 1280x800 on most of those models). I upgraded mine with a T9400 cpu, a 2x 2.53Ghz core due, 6MB cache, 35W part, runs pretty cool, especially as the heatsink is fairly large and routed to both sides of a corner. It takes 8GB DDR3 1066Mhz ram. Has firewire. /m Per Boysen wrote: > I googled "Intel Core i3-370M" and found more specifications than > those you posted. Since I know you do a lot of video work I wouldn't > dare buying this one because of the shared graphic memory. When > combining video and audio you have to remember that audio is real-time > and then shared video may cause bad interruptions. > > Eight gig RAM option will be fine in the fine future. "Two cores" and > "two threads" sound good enough. 64 bit instruction set is great IF > all your software are up to it. SSE if essential (optimization for the > pentium CPU). Well, see for yourself at > http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=49020 > > Please note that I have not read up on the latest regarding these > pentiums and Windows 7 when it comes to the possible shared graphics > stuff. You might look for some music forum thread that deals with it, > maybe at Gearslutz, Ableton's or the Bidule forum. I might be wrong in > my skepticism. At Ableton they have this standing thread where > everyone runs a test song on there computer and posts the CPU load for > discussion; a lot of useful lappy knowledge spilled there. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >>A website advertisement, today, announced a >>$450 price on this laptop computer >> >>The HP ProBook 4520s XT943UT laptop with >>Intel Core i3-370M 2.40GHz processor and 2GB DDR3 Memory >>15.6-inch HD anti-glare LED-backlit Display >>802.11b/g/n wireless connectivity >>Bluetooth 2.1 +EDR >>Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit Operating System >> >> >>Would you advanced laptop looping or laptop video projecting folks think >>that this is a good enough machine >>to handle, say the Virtual EDP, Mobius and Plogue or Ableton's Live >>in a live situation? >> >>Does such a computer have the capacity for more RAM? >> >>I've had such a horrible experience with my 17" Macbook Pro >>($3500 of repairs in a non stop stream for the 4 years I've owned it >>and my Apple Care is just about to expire) >>that I'm considering selling it (everything's, literally, been replaced >>so it's practically brand new except for the case) and >>jumping back into the Windows laptop world. >> >>Finances are tight so this is a very, very attractive price but >>I don't want to buy another computer that doesn't work for my needs, ever, >>so I want to get it right this time. >> >>Your advice is greatly appreciated. >> >>rick walker >> >> >> > > > -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 20:43:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2942D1834EA; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2234FD.9020903@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 12:43:41 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Larson CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Computer good enough for Live Looping? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040500090602010706020300" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:43:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040500090602010706020300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Jeff for that prompt post. Honestly, I love Win XP service pack 2 so much that I imagine I would install that. Besides I have so much investment in software that works fantastically on it and I know it really well. Looks good. Now I have to sell my MacBook Pro. Happy New Years and thanks for the advice. On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > The specs look pretty good. 2GB is the minimum I would get, processor > speed > is good enough. It looks like you can upgrade the RAM to 4GB. It doesn't > have a firewire port so you will need a USB audio interface. The > cheapest > price I found was $444.99 at Newegg.com. > > Here's a review: > > http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/527437/review/probook_4520s.html > > The problem with recommending computers for audio is that while on the > surface the specs may look fine, trying to run an audio application > with pro audio hardware at low latencies can uncover problems that > you won't notice with business software. Things like the video card > and the motherboard chipsets can effect how low you can tune your > latency and you won't notice this until you try or you can find > someone with similar needs that has posted a review (I couldn't > find any). > > So make sure you have 30 days to return it and be prepared to test > what you're interested in within that time. > > With that warning, it looks like it should be fine for Mobius and > Bidule and I would assume the Virtual EDP. Loopers aren't particularly > demanding of CPU but they do love memory. I don't have Windows 7, > does anyone know how much memory it consumes? 2GB is fine for Windows > XP but if Windows 7 is going to consume 1.5 GB just siting there then > you may have to get more. > > For advanced video and audio processing beyond looping, you might > need more horsepower. This is obviously a low-end machine designed > for people running Word and Excel. I don't know what all is involved > with video processing on a laptop but I probably wouldn't go with anything > less than a dual-core with 4GB. > > Jeff > --------------040500090602010706020300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Jeff for that prompt post.
Honestly,   I love Win XP service pack 2 so much that
I imagine I would install that.
Besides I have so much investment in software that works
fantastically on it and I know it really well.

Looks good.
Now I have to sell my MacBook Pro.

Happy New Years and thanks for the advice.


On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Larson wrote:

The specs look pretty good.  2GB is the minimum I would get, processor speed 
is good enough.  It looks like you can upgrade the RAM to 4GB.  It doesn't
have a firewire port so you will need a USB audio interface.  The cheapest 
price I found was $444.99 at Newegg.com.

Here's a review:


The problem with recommending computers for audio is that while on the
surface the specs may look fine, trying to run an audio application
with pro audio hardware at low latencies can uncover problems that
you won't notice with business software.  Things like the video card
and the motherboard chipsets can effect how low you can tune your
latency and you won't notice this until you try or you can find
someone with similar needs that has posted a review (I couldn't
find any).

So make sure you have 30 days to return it and be prepared to test
what you're interested in within that time.  

With that warning, it looks like it should be fine for Mobius and
Bidule and I would assume the Virtual EDP.  Loopers aren't particularly
demanding of CPU but they do love memory.  I don't have Windows 7, 
does anyone know how much memory it consumes?  2GB is fine for Windows
XP but if Windows 7 is going to consume 1.5 GB just siting there then
you may have to get more.

For advanced video and audio processing beyond looping, you might
need more horsepower.  This is obviously a low-end machine designed
for people running Word and Excel.  I don't know what all is involved
with video processing on a laptop but I probably wouldn't go with anything
less than a dual-core with 4GB.

Jeff


--------------040500090602010706020300-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 20:48:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAABA1834FC; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:references:from :content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=HFZm5TmTdiT9GtDr/76MReA3E0Cagawtq7D2oXke5cU=; b=Gv1xp2X8qL3iwt5cEI0zyvbi9JBYNECimg8OXSKTdsSFEcaegzdBblTZ139c9UgWIn wJ7iDcmzTqRHNh6QeqgsvaLGhnF11A8YGr/LZniimJJ0v+JmZ3BR9tTgrUtFVYzSDTUW DvyzJMCwPW+c7MNVwKmW2swMlBDsJAcWq/sls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=whHEuQlsLpBakCeJK1MI7UeL9Jo4RUyuz3DimuHQOX5sp30/3Cq/G4f649F7YYJdJs 2dv53EenEpxklFOyjbeVYf7t1RzqDO6agf9kce2VfbyDQjcf5VLKsOL62oDgKFVt1Rnc Y2d4reIXOdsa89XWf258jiJzbaEI3U84AyHy8= Subject: Re: Mobius loop windowing simulation References: From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <93A1291B-4A17-4FE2-BD50-B3DD36ED66AE@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:50:27 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Could this windowing thing be done by changing stutter so that it works on s= ubcycles instead of cycles? I'm not that familiar with stutter, to be honest= ... Sent from my iPod On 3 Jan 2011, at 17:42, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: >> I just uploaded a reference manual, you can get it (and the others) here.= >> http://www.circularlabs.com/documentation/documentation.html >=20 >=20 > Nice with pictures in the manual! Less mysterious that way. Further on > "The Mysterious $" finally explained while "The Mysterious Arguments" > implies there might be even more to come... >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 22:30:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 403931834B3; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board (TIMEBENDER) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 17:30:12 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33069-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD79ACEB7306C3-11B8-1C3A@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:30:39 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4arlipIwfIk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhHRk2HO-kpo jeff, and all that really care.....do you think you can get these=20 sounds from the M9 or M13?..... don't get me wrong, if you want to get me one please do so.....fun sounding box! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 22:34:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 888F11834D7; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D221B1D.1060101@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board (boss slicer) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 17:34:49 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: <4D221B1D.1060101@cruzio.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33069-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD79AD902FCA6E-11B8-1CF2@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: <1gFxB.A.jBF.R8kINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:34:58 +0000 (UTC) 1) button pushed =3D (audio in, pink noise, white noise or=20 silence)=C2=A0 2) button not pushed =3D (audio in , pink noise, white noise or silence)= =C2=A0=20 sez rickeee! ? sez me! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 22:55:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3BCE1834CD; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Aeg= AThC AX3K CK8A CXrt DF8X DOAe EICT Ed8p Eqk/ EuVL FlOu Frlw F9SP F9w4 GHn2;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{4BD00CD2-B31A-4B87-A7AA-D3360050E5A3};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Mon, 03 Jan 2011 22:53:58 GMT;UgBFADoAIABMAFAALQAxADoAIAAgADEALgAzADQAIABvAHIAIAAxAC4AMwA3AD8A x-cr-puzzleid: {4BD00CD2-B31A-4B87-A7AA-D3360050E5A3} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: LP-1: 1.34 or 1.37? Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:53:58 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F078AF5A8@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <1E5E6861-61F4-4434-B0FA-9E8F575220D7@baymoon.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LP-1: 1.34 or 1.37? Thread-Index: Acuqqx4WBWjejN+XQ3K/9eanTUU4FwA7ey5w References: <1E5E6861-61F4-4434-B0FA-9E8F575220D7@baymoon.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2011 22:55:01.0778 (UTC) FILETIME=[40EC8720:01CBAB99] Resent-Message-ID: <_-P96.A.3VG.HPlINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Let me know a phone number best to reach you and we can get started. -----Original Message----- From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 1:30 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LP-1: 1.34 or 1.37? > Current consensus is that 1.34c is the most stable, > with 1.37 being good for most users. Hey Andy, I can't remember if I asked you what your stability issues with 1.37 =20 were. What were you doing to cause it to crash? So far I have some =20 problems when recording a really short loop and then starting to mess =20 with it with track speed and q replace, occasionally a false trigger =20 will send the machine into self oscillation. Occasionally if I get too =20 trigger happy using q replace the machine will take some time to =20 finish all of the cycles, but thats more about me being careless with =20 my technique. I still have somewhat of a volume issue where =20 subsequent tracks I create seem to be progressively louder than the =20 last ones I made, that doesn't seem to be caused by typical issues =20 of playing louder to rise above an increasingly saturated soundscape. =20 This issue I have been compensating for by being more conscious of how =20 I'm attacking the instrument and how I use compression. There also =20 seem to be the reoccurring issues of too many overdubs on a single =20 track saturating and clipping the output, if feedback is set at 100%. Thoughts, reflections, insights?????? Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 22:58:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A01C1834D3; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: LP-1: 1.34 or 1.37? Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:57:24 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F078AF5AA@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <1E5E6861-61F4-4434-B0FA-9E8F575220D7@baymoon.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LP-1: 1.34 or 1.37? Thread-Index: Acuqqx4WBWjejN+XQ3K/9eanTUU4FwA7hLag References: <1E5E6861-61F4-4434-B0FA-9E8F575220D7@baymoon.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2011 22:58:06.0562 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF105420:01CBAB99] Resent-Message-ID: <0d_A3B.A.ZeG._RlINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Too many Andys in the pot!! My answer to this would be that since I have control over vol of every loop, then I can lower them or raise them as need be on the fly, having listed to this discussion though, I have lately been leaving them up and if I need an adjust just use one of the eight pots I have programmed for feedback and just lower them a bit, but noticing now that sometimes I need that increased vol I just lost forever. My goal is to monitor the same mix that is going out, and when I feel best about a loop is when I have six or eight tracks just the vol I want and I see that not one fader has to be touched to get there, that's tough with six or eight instruments in the mix!!! -----Original Message----- From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 1:30 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LP-1: 1.34 or 1.37? > Current consensus is that 1.34c is the most stable, > with 1.37 being good for most users. Hey Andy, I can't remember if I asked you what your stability issues with 1.37 =20 were. What were you doing to cause it to crash? So far I have some =20 problems when recording a really short loop and then starting to mess =20 with it with track speed and q replace, occasionally a false trigger =20 will send the machine into self oscillation. Occasionally if I get too =20 trigger happy using q replace the machine will take some time to =20 finish all of the cycles, but thats more about me being careless with =20 my technique. I still have somewhat of a volume issue where =20 subsequent tracks I create seem to be progressively louder than the =20 last ones I made, that doesn't seem to be caused by typical issues =20 of playing louder to rise above an increasingly saturated soundscape. =20 This issue I have been compensating for by being more conscious of how =20 I'm attacking the instrument and how I use compression. There also =20 seem to be the reoccurring issues of too many overdubs on a single =20 track saturating and clipping the output, if feedback is set at 100%. Thoughts, reflections, insights?????? Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 22:58:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BED8F1834D7; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QQDb7ziGCiCOB+c8sOcdgSH05OAjXcG6F9HpLfBFHDE=; b=nPNpves3w/SoKWE49WXk0xm5Q3jaPM4Nfw1a/gotjTClq+Kt/delPHA8b66grUJKEZ ygNdOrDIWTQVjjz8uLwjmvPZeE3XJ4UrUA/51zgIPm0UAsggv6VZa+zBX553emX+nYxU 6Pxvc8ewGKCj/wG7QUKg1HMnxniN1LLOlEkFs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nqvHR8h3N5kmUzzzBNXUWhC4IqiDINSavf/BWmWvWGnUGteNYP3EQ/Z1PewCIHccnM wvfzK2Bclqu3R9OaptmUaz8zHKFcs3uk8q949wcmOQprHHAhfWtFLCWjwvrLOPWZv44b 5LCpvXPv40tEViu3LUEs3AJEsljBxrUie7VoE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD79ACEB7306C3-11B8-1C3A@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com> References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> <8CD79ACEB7306C3-11B8-1C3A@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:58:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board (TIMEBENDER) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Perhaps some of them, I do know that feeding the TimeBender into the M9 is a GAS! Then feed those through some Alesis Modfx then into a Vortex, out of those into the DD 20>EH 2880.... Sorry, I am thinking of Mark's "broken mirror of sound, little fragments of the sound pictures reflecting tiny pieces of long forgotten sounds... *long toke* ---- exhale... um... and... um.... where was I?" comment's, whew..:) j On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:30 PM, wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4arlipIwfIk > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHRk2HO-kpo > > jeff, and all that really care.....do you think you can get these sounds > from the M9 or M13?..... > don't get me wrong, if you want to get me one please do so.....fun > sounding box! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 23:01:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 271611834DC; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rjIVoDkKlIvRpEBDnU4ZX+69ERKtpGqPwUUKyAa9Icc=; b=cGVoQHh88xa5o6pjIMgnKL2lcpPqLIHijwK0G/DVWDpWj5pVac7AZUe26YVVJp5WSq 00/Z94W/ZF6EZQzbs4LcDv7Y+wjmhjE1Fhj/R9VzkGV0H9OdP0NWTGVLgzw/2t6+x/br h4ji/gm/zoFTGM0pMYP93DCqdxUiimfI9ecrc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ehVP81Yy0SehwHMtj78TPI/P0UrGPvFlyE98YGRFNKRrGc/ZEaGx9sE62/EW/3bQ6C OqvNdB1sIEhxeg1p71mXlW74LA/8n/HTam8aXusH5J/FG68J9SfR+QhQ1TbTlDNqBAFT 4x/sUovwPrGV0AF7wRF8VNFvfH6mW08IK5xp0= Message-ID: <4D22552E.8090001@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 00:01:02 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board (TIMEBENDER) References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> <8CD79ACEB7306C3-11B8-1C3A@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:01:07 +0000 (UTC) question to all Timebender users: 1. Is the timebender similar to the DD20 mentioned before insofar as the delays are the interesting thing, not the looper? 2. What about the looper? 3. Does the timebender do a proper varispeed (i.e. tape speed change-kind) when you adjust the delay time while there's something already in the delay? Rainer Jeff Duke schrieb: > Perhaps some of them, I do know that feeding the TimeBender into the > M9 is a GAS! Then feed those through some Alesis Modfx then into -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 23:09:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDDFA1834CE; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:09:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: -discovering your gear that sits on your board (TIMEBENDER) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:08:46 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F078AF5AD@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: -discovering your gear that sits on your board (TIMEBENDER) Thread-Index: AcurmcZnV+Bs5Q/+R3ufmeMJNuauBwAAV2zA References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com><8CD79ACEB7306C3-11B8-1C3A@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2011 23:09:13.0462 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C913160:01CBAB9B] Resent-Message-ID: <9_NzyC.A.V9G.aclINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:09:14 +0000 (UTC) Heck with fragments of sound, send me the long toke!!! -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:59 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board (TIMEBENDER) Perhaps some of them, I do know that feeding the TimeBender into the M9 is a GAS! Then feed those through some Alesis Modfx then into a Vortex, out of those into the DD 20>EH 2880.... Sorry, I am thinking of Mark's "broken mirror of sound, little fragments of the sound pictures reflecting tiny pieces of long forgotten sounds... *long toke* ---- exhale... um... and... um.... where was I?" comment's, whew..:) j On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:30 PM, wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4arlipIwfIk > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhHRk2HO-kpo > > jeff, and all that really care.....do you think you can get these sounds > from the M9 or M13?..... > don't get me wrong, if you want to get me one please do so.....fun > sounding box! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 23:23:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 554B41834E7; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1IcT4ztbSviGWeLLHmINnwuh9u9BYP1Mg3FQRe1HKiQ=; b=X5CJbc3CuYSleqBVGiEDzIFgeZlXqY7oFRKZX2YWsTsLR2bS0rVWkvXyMF9n/c6Yua 2jGzLGLs0X935wgN2HnLST77Vr8hYSnCDSJD4FCaOdhdrAJ8o9atwusip3eWIxW+rpw7 Ws0ejHIv4+j99ppI963NWUgqE5zNnYwwD55NQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OWyoCZea0Zrnr0JfqP3GVPaMrYtN9pySPozbnsZw1xl0tO9nmuCFUInhkOPimAvdMP kJgpQt6ZgXgvYg7hInM0ddsNEB+WVBzpfngD9hFWSe9vMvvCizFpgKANg8878jh5K/5g Uk1I1oE447BQRwhsNM4ROQXi3Uu6m6pDwNOpg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D22552E.8090001@googlemail.com> References: <4D203FFF.30401@cruzio.com> <8CD79ACEB7306C3-11B8-1C3A@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com> <4D22552E.8090001@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:23:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board (TIMEBENDER) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:23:10 +0000 (UTC) The looper is just a basic thing like those found in almost every fx box these days. Overdub but nothing else. I tried it but don't use it. Nothing for me there. No feedback or any other controls. All the delays can be "held" by holding the effect on/off button though. Then input is stopped and you can play over it. Also while in "hold" mode the ex ped and all knobs will still sweep their settings, very bizarre sounds ensue. So it is a 5 sec delay type looper with hold, and sweep control. On varispeed: If you watch the second video especially you can decide for yourself perhaps. It has two tape delay models, variable speed tape and moving head tape. I have no experience with a "proper" varispeed device I'm afraid. All the models handle sweeping differently and the two types of ducking delays are really cool also. Remember it is also a delay harmonizer and a pattern delay. Like I said I have only scratched the surface. I don't use gear with an idea of what I think it should do so much as see what it does and then think how I can use that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4arlipIwfIk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhHRk2HO-kpo best, J On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > question to all Timebender users: > > 1. Is the timebender similar to the DD20 mentioned before insofar as the > delays are the interesting thing, not the looper? > 2. What about the looper? > 3. Does the timebender do a proper varispeed (i.e. tape speed change-kind= ) > when you adjust the delay time while there's something already in the del= ay? > > =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer > > Jeff Duke schrieb: >> >> Perhaps some of them, I do know that feeding the TimeBender into the >> M9 is a GAS! Then feed those through some Alesis Modfx then into > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 3 23:48:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 186071834BA; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=qnu9l5nHeaxX3UEmQAg3clQEzizSn7+PAOCwXzETago=; b=RM6YiUmttKF4XktHwsbj+M5y5S+XdQwSX+G5bN0C+KCGmcZuzJgj17GnN7SF87MUV3 EAVwTn3/Y8cfs3cVi8kDXuwLmogi8njxwSBC9zFH/no134rcfkdUvRZavc6UfI7aoso3 JMrxevcV6kwhiYPivp0JxLnU0K+Pu4K7++mFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=b57Ca49FREFsqcxrxy5jgK5AXiUZmeakaXZRL8LSXMKMTeeXqQKGRCb7hxWZSwKw1M +oHkp4I7E2G5xvqVpV9WHCmYaPLE/nZCy170DROkXDZxVRFje8GN8tB/wt1PNY37g8dM ki0bHkDIJxrg33Zh7RYXzvvGGY52zdmknp3/k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 00:47:57 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zHAigTdT70ecqVfwxtF5k2eZtBI Message-ID: Subject: Loop windowing Audio example... To: Rick Walker , loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e88164234320498f9c925 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:48:19 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e88164234320498f9c925 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rick said > > Can you put up an audio example of this approach? > OK I just hit record and this came out... no edits and frankely a bit crap musically, but I think it demonstrates a few uses of loop windowing. http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/thewindow-1-05 I have commented what is happening on the Soundcloud timeline.. a great feature for something like this... > I'm so stimulated by your and Duke's technique inventions this past week. > WHo is Duke? Jeff Duke? > > and Happy New Years to you and your lovely family, > And to you and Chris (&Bill and Nance) ... I seriously have to hit the Gym now... OMG! The Wine the Beer the Turkey the potatoes... the tummy! -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e88164234320498f9c925 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick said

Can you put up an audio example of this approach?

= OK I just hit record and this came out... no edits and frankely a bit crap = musically, but I think it demonstrates a few uses of loop windowing.

http://s= oundcloud.com/markfrancombe/thewindow-1-05

I have commented what= is happening on the Soundcloud timeline.. a great feature for something li= ke this...


I'm so stimulated by your and Duke's technique inventions this past= week.

WHo is Duke? Jeff Duke?

and Happy New Years to you and your lovely family,

And to you and Chris (&Bill and Nance)
... I seriousl= y have to hit the Gym now... OMG! The Wine the Beer the Turkey the potatoes= ... the tummy!

--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
w= ww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e88164234320498f9c925-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 00:02:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2ECC1834C3; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 00:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Q Steps (SUS = Substitute) commands in the LP-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D22177F.7080504@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:02:51 -0800 Cc: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> <4D22177F.7080504@cruzio.com> To: Rick Walker X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 00:02:55 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > In order to get this to work you need to program a button on your midi = pedals > (back in the main menu) with Q replace on the first command and Q = replace on the second command. > (I'm not even sure why this is necessary but I know practically that = it is) >=20 > Now, every time you make a momentary press, the machine will replace = the very next > full 'slice' (or Q) with whatever it is that you are playing = currently. Thanks. I had already seen that trick. For a true SUS command, however, = I think it should also work until you release the button in case you = want to hold it longer. Hence, you could program a quantized, single = unit replace which works in the most common way for using SUS commands, = but it isn't really a SUS command. But now, if only the Q steps setting could be set as part of the = programming on a MIDI button (and for that matter if Scramble obeyed Q = steps). Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 00:04:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E20DA1834C4; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 00:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Q Steps (SUS = Substitute) commands in the LP-1 From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:04:32 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <15ED33DF-6A89-4161-ADE4-E76DF75D5100@grubmah.com> References: <43ECCA66-A7D8-473B-A1FB-D23F1E79201D@grubmah.com> <4D22177F.7080504@cruzio.com> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 00:04:35 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 3, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Thanks. I had already seen that trick. For a true SUS command, = however, I think it should also work until you release the button in = case you want to hold it longer. Hence, you could program a quantized, = single unit replace which works in the most common way for using SUS = commands, but it isn't really a SUS command. Oops. Must read whole thread before hitting send. Sorry for the extra = noise. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 00:59:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8F201834BB; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 00:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 09:59:23 +0900 Subject: Re: Loop windowing Audio example... From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Loop windowing Audio example... Thread-Index: AcurqqAoQTa1YZNnT/+pEpkSXFxfyw== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3376979965_19361729" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 00:59:28 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3376979965_19361729 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 1/4/11 8:47 AM, "mark francombe" wrote: > Rick said >>> >> I'm so stimulated by your and Duke's technique inventions this past = week. >> > >> > WHo is Duke? Jeff Duke? Hiiiiii!!!! Rick=B9s referring to me. I can never use my real name out freely on this list =8Ccause it=B9s open to Google, and I=B9ve had problems with Google-stalking in the past. Rick & I know each other well enough, though, that he regularly refers to me by my given name. >> > OK I just hit record and this came out... no edits and frankely a bit = crap >> musically, but I think it demonstrates a >> > few uses of loop windowing. >> > >> > http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/thewindow-1-05 >> > >> > I have commented what is happening on the Soundcloud timeline.. a grea= t >> feature for something like this... >=20 > Cool! Thanks for that. Helps me (at least) better understand what we=B9re > talking about here. :) >=20 > --m. --B_3376979965_19361729 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Loop windowing Audio example... On 1/4/11 8:4= 7 AM, "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Rick said
>> I'm so stimulated by your and Duke's technique inventions this pas= t week.
>
> WHo is Duke? Jeff Duke?

Hiiiiii!!!!

Rick’s referring to me.  I can never use my real name out freely= on this list ‘cause it’s open to Google, and I’ve had pro= blems with Google-stalking in the past.  Rick & I know each other w= ell enough, though, that he regularly refers to me by my given name.

> OK I just hit record and this came out... no edits = and frankely a bit crap musically, but I think it demonstrates a
> few uses of loop windowing.
>
> http://so= undcloud.com/markfrancombe/thewindow-1-05
>
> I have commented what is happening on the Soundcloud timeline.. a grea= t feature for something like this...

Cool!  Thanks for that.  Helps me (at least) better understand wh= at we’re talking about here.  :)

        --m.
 --B_3376979965_19361729-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 01:21:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 363F41834DF; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:21:18 +0900 Subject: Fripp & Eno Live... From: Dustbunnies To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Fripp & Eno Live... Thread-Index: Acurra/1jPvulwSMQYSoUEzK3THKCw== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Thought this might be of interest to some people here. Just got newsletter spam in from DGM Live (recording label), regarding thei= r newest release. > Fripp & Eno Live=20 > The New Year gets off to a great start with the release of Fripp & Eno's > classic concert at the Olympia, Paris on 28th May 1975. Writing show note= s for > the download, Frippertronics expert Al Okada notes "For any fan of No > Pussyfooting or Evening Star, this live recording is of epic significance= , > and...is now also comparable in audio quality, by synchronizing the most > complete and best (by a mile) available live bootleg recording with Eno's > stage tapes recently discovered." Listening to the tapes, Fripp himself > observes that "The theme of Blue, the undeveloped KC piece of 1974 & rece= ntly > referred to by John Wetton, informs the beginning soloing over Swastika > Girls."=20 >=20 > This restored concert is presented in full and as a bonus, comes with the > original test loops created for the Fripp and Eno tours. If you=B9re a fan = of > Fripp and Eno or Frippertronics then this show is a must-have! Taken from Eno's actual stage tapes, it seems. And the idea of making the test loops available sounds particularly intriguing.... More details on the show and recording available at: http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?artist=3D20&show=3D1340 I've gotten other Fripp downloads (Soundscapes) from these guys, and the quality is usually pretty good, FWIW. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 01:33:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C61A61834CA; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Revfever Subject: Fripp and Eno live,1975 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:33:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host5.webserveralpha.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ubergadget.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:33:50 +0000 (UTC) This looks exciting! FYI: http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?artist=20&show=1340 Cheers, Rev.Fever Portland,OR http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 01:36:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2DAE1834EB; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <71DA9FAB-3F4B-4F7A-91D7-E06772EAB71B@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Revfever Subject: Re: Fripp & Eno Live... Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:36:25 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host5.webserveralpha.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ubergadget.com Resent-Message-ID: <0sBOQD.A.sND.emnINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Dustbunnies and I must be on the same psychic page. I sent out a =20 notice of this as well and mere seconds before receiving this post =20 from DB. :-) Cheerios. Rev. Fever On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Dustbunnies wrote: > Thought this might be of interest to some people here. > > Just got newsletter spam in from DGM Live (recording label), =20 > regarding their > newest release. > >> Fripp & Eno Live >> The New Year gets off to a great start with the release of Fripp & =20= >> Eno's >> classic concert at the Olympia, Paris on 28th May 1975. Writing =20 >> show notes for >> the download, Frippertronics expert Al Okada notes "For any fan of No >> Pussyfooting or Evening Star, this live recording is of epic =20 >> significance, >> and...is now also comparable in audio quality, by synchronizing =20 >> the most >> complete and best (by a mile) available live bootleg recording =20 >> with Eno's >> stage tapes recently discovered." Listening to the tapes, Fripp =20 >> himself >> observes that "The theme of Blue, the undeveloped KC piece of 1974 =20= >> & recently >> referred to by John Wetton, informs the beginning soloing over =20 >> Swastika >> Girls." >> >> This restored concert is presented in full and as a bonus, comes =20 >> with the >> original test loops created for the Fripp and Eno tours. If you=92re =20= >> a fan of >> Fripp and Eno or Frippertronics then this show is a must-have! > > Taken from Eno's actual stage tapes, it seems. And the idea of =20 > making the > test loops available sounds particularly intriguing.... > > More details on the show and recording available at: > > http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?artist=3D20&show=3D1340 > > I've gotten other Fripp downloads (Soundscapes) from these guys, =20 > and the > quality is usually pretty good, FWIW. > > --m. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 01:40:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E0151834F4; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:40:36 +0900 Subject: Re: Fripp & Eno Live... From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Fripp & Eno Live... Thread-Index: AcursGIu+10DX2YFQICPb+SL5H0kvw== In-Reply-To: <71DA9FAB-3F4B-4F7A-91D7-E06772EAB71B@ubergadget.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3M9fs.A.MYD.XqnINB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:40:39 +0000 (UTC) On 1/4/11 10:36 AM, "Revfever" wrote: > > Dustbunnies and I must be on the same psychic page. I sent out a > notice of this as well and mere seconds before receiving this post > from DB. :-) Great minds, and all that.... ;D Regardless, looks like some cool sh*t. Although the liner notes seem to indicate that there have been portions of this floating around unofficially as a bootleg for quite a while. Anybody actually heard this in the past? --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 02:33:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EB5B1834E4; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 02:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at hemlock; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 02:33:53 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c8a69381-d392-4a1e-b339-4eeeba25f127_" X-Originating-IP: [166.205.139.92] From: samba - CC: , , , , , Subject: Bebe Barron Interview Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:28:52 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2011 02:28:52.0749 (UTC) FILETIME=[20C753D0:01CBABB7] Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 02:33:54 +0000 (UTC) --_c8a69381-d392-4a1e-b339-4eeeba25f127_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.janebrockman.org/BebeBarron/BebeBarron.html = --_c8a69381-d392-4a1e-b339-4eeeba25f127_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.janebrockman.org/BebeBarron/BebeBarron= .html
= --_c8a69381-d392-4a1e-b339-4eeeba25f127_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 02:41:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B19D31834E6; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 02:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2288C4.8070209@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 21:41:08 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for December, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 02:41:12 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/top20-12dec.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for December, 2010. Shows #713 to #717; 2-December-2010 to 30-December-2010 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox The Special Focus for December was Modulator ESP. Modulator ESP: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#dec ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== Broekhuis, Keller, and Schonwalder - Repelen - Manikin Create - We Live By the Machines - Groove Dan Pound - Aurora - Pound Sounds Gert Emmens - Metamorphosis - Groove Herion - Out and About - Hypnos Hypnosphere - Magnetism - Spheric Music Ian Boddy - Pearl - DiN Ken Elkinson - Music for Commuting - August Son Modulator ESP - Alien Forest Observations - none Modulator ESP - EMS VCS3 Experiment 1 - none Modulator ESP - Historic Edition Vol. 5 - none Modulator ESP - Historic Edition Vol. 6 - none Modulator ESP - Live in the USA 2009 - none Mystified - A Pale But Lasting Hope - Magnatune Nattefrost - Dying Sun/Scarlet Moon - Groove Ombient - Oceans Edge - none Picture Palace Music - Midsummer - Groove Ron Boots and Synth.nl - Refuge en Verre - Groove Spyra - No Beats For 1 Hour - Ricochet Dream The Eletric Golem - The Electric Golem - Ricochet Dream Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 19:13:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54FAD18349B; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mI0oi/OdbnUwvSHGVAlbuSaygQcczQRu6AsTsNKIE9Q=; b=VJADBGUHkKbtJn6Bn/76scCjS8+JOPzg0NFU2vwJaajxyQbb8kNE2K4OgzmU1ITS0h xMmtm0lKbYY3mcBHDeAlLUxAlh2hPOFx7JulDRakcdYexGtt79srz1IrXapB8hhJNnzm 3+N6c2jv76zF7IB3qNVYDtkfVVQeiw0Ia1sxA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jH8iy2pNKC0rOdvmhYzF0GcRk+n6Y4zdcc1tcxGzlPN4zW09q8ddkOIsThCTdwjxbA xFsyyxw0gtyIeYMJ3prmPJuKZ0MGy9rArdBtxjlVBNxAfRILazS+/g4PohDnkMp2jAtB O4thYtoxmnP+aK3QiGX+FCXZAMzE9Vy6SixcA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:13:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: vst From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Ran across this, thought maybe some would be interested. http://www.soniccharge.com/bitspeek J From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 19:52:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35431183466; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cS68tTN0uhWRZWINDfBHWy9ElF7rVcTxKVnT/BsRBPU=; b=j36WjErm12gJZANk3wplXcUhizW5SDCwuJgkGL6pz2nvkNk11OGOzsBVX169lTQZCB BOpwmICb/IqOjJSsJRCRAq79XeJ40fTt1pIiSbBjm7ploQpnu4Pp0aQY3JIo3P5yn+5+ S/C0vdWWohRpAxGop7hnMnw5Q6LTBwSLyIXOs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iD0Pn4EK9STG9rymaUXgsuSrjfY8lpw7YtHmDrBdNPRSQCeLhBHjDv1W1CwB7BPjfU JBtcb8b2PnC3SQWmvSARh5HD4xpXi9OyiI2mWnqcT74zNPqh4/KJNzxD6rmEQ3jExJ7g 6zHOXs0Kn39EwNnIuvgUFmYBD+G9hTpnCQB0k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 20:52:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vst From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:52:26 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Ran across this, thought maybe some would be interested. > > http://www.soniccharge.com/bitspeek > A vocoder-like pitch/formant tracking plugin. It was covered yesterday by CDM: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-microtonic-3-drum-machine-synth-bitspeek-effect/ BTW, this plugin is available both as AU and VST. No RTAS version though. As a sound shaping tool I think Bitspeek is similar to Logic's vocoder Evoc 20, but simpler with less of instrument qualities. For a brutal distortion sound I like Expert Sleeper's Oomingmac better. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 4 22:42:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24AF8183474; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sXtjYkUQimYJdYrrRzm5M3iBgS63QGXmU6bL0nwLhK0=; b=VUh/YlzekD3l8/+qe1bJgKdNvFI2wPc2QTbJHR2RNcosvCZ9THYAK9SXRys9E7Kh/6 FnTINREh0EwsBBrKNixVYm0o1RhtbYVOGQOkDA5t1bpHB9kN/9siveFnxAfS/WH6axuG H1Go0wMPAJ2u9binr3pPU0rpsOHXPTXB4vNAo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=D/KtiPdSrM1CG65rI0cNav71WRv6+9N1Wu8p9A68t9x1u4e2R6/k/WcX0P0evvFIVV X9WCy9MP9Tq/YO5cFMHvocA8QtGAvRZjmS+iAZsv2ZnYDo90G2+QESO5aCl8dQzp73Gn lOo4JKCI2gU+h/ve0kXBm2kcFWQ1KLBa7i9uY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:42:50 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: sitting gear (TIMEBENDER)-from my bad memory//splattercell loops... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d1dc90d740d04990cfd0b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:42:52 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d1dc90d740d04990cfd0b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 this is all from memory, since it's been probably 3 yrs since i had a dd20, and over a yr since i had the timebender: it is similar in aspect to the dd20 in that it has a # of delay options, but the longest was only 5 sec, and honestly i thought the delay options for 100% feedback seemed limited. it was not at all like my old dod d12 (12 sec of delay, the budget lexicon pcm42 i thought of it as), but remember the dd20 has 23 sec of delay. to me the timebender seemed like a pitchshifter that had some delay options, and pitchshifting is probably the effect that interestes me the least, perhaps that's b/c i also have pitch options in my digitech rp150 and my lexicon mx200 (which again i use very rarely). i thought the tape mode was decent, but it didn't blow me away. if you want varispeed pitch, i like the ibanez de7 (which is cheap, and i wish i wouldn't have sold, although it doesn't go to 100% feedback), my guyatone md3, which is my other piece of gear that i've had in storage that may come out soon, and of course the EH 16ddl does varispeed pitchshifting nice. as does the old digitech pds8000 (no direct experience w/ this, but the bill frisell vids on youtube of him from his old instruction vid is GREAT!) (i should note i also think my lexicon mx200 does decent short varispeed delays, i should mess w/that more!) (and stop whining!) of course these are just the things i know from using low end gear, oh, the boss dd7 did varispeed decent, and my current digitech dl8 does it decent on the short delays. i think i was hoping more from the TIMEBENDER, wanting to use it as my main looper, but it was lacking for me (like not all modes went to 5 sec, etc) i think it's a real crapper than digitech can't come out w/ the mother of all delay based loopers that combined what the pcm42/dod d12/pds8000 could do. make it have 20 sec of delay and really be able to control it, take short loops and stretch them out or long loops and shorten them to get the mickey mouse high pitch stuff. it just sucks since they F***ING own all the companies that produced this great gear in the past, oh well i can dream. instead they focus on putting out phrase samplers that can hold a million hrs of stuff in memory, oh well... i should note in the varispeed debate-i have not been able to check out any of the high end delay options, like the eventide delay box, the tc electronics delay box, or the pigtonix 20 sec delay box, that honestly looks like the thing i'd like to have, but it's close to 500 beans, about the total of all my gear combined.... oh-i should also note that i'd probably like the dd20 more now, since i've settled w/ what the dl8 can do, neither of which were close to my old dod d12, i just didn't want to mess w/ rack stuff any more..... end of long blather, hope there's an answer somewhere in there for you.... btw-i'm currently listening to david torn's splattercell/loops for acid/soundtrack thing (this is not the correct title, i'm 2 lazy to pull the disc out), man there are some great sounds on here. and it's perfect for short attention span person like me, just short little clips of interesting sounds/processing/ explorations...i know it's supposed to be a tool for composers to use in soundtracks and stuff, but great listening..... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen some1 wrote: question to all Timebender users: 1. Is the timebender similar to the DD20 mentioned before insofar as the delays are the interesting thing, not the looper? 2. What about the looper? 3. Does the timebender do a proper varispeed (i.e. tape speed change-kind) when you adjust the delay time while there's something already in the delay? --0016364d1dc90d740d04990cfd0b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this is all from memory, since it's been probably 3 yrs since i ha= d a dd20, and over a yr since i had the timebender:
it is similar in aspect to the dd20 in that it has a # of delay option= s, but the longest was only 5 sec, and honestly i thought the delay options= for 100% feedback
seemed limited. it was not at all like my old dod d12 (12 sec of delay= , the budget lexicon pcm42 i thought of it as), but remember the dd20 has 2= 3 sec of delay.
to me the timebender seemed like a pitchshifter that had some delay op= tions, and pitchshifting is probably the effect that interestes me the leas= t, perhaps that's
b/c i also have pitch options in my digitech rp150 and my lexicon mx20= 0 (which again i use very rarely). i thought the tape mode was decent, but = it didn't blow me
away. if you want varispeed pitch, i like the ibanez de7 (which is che= ap, and i wish i wouldn't have sold, although it doesn't go to 100%= feedback), my guyatone md3, which is my other piece of gear that i've = had in storage that may come out soon, and of course the EH 16ddl does vari= speed pitchshifting nice. as does the old digitech pds8000 (no
direct experience w/ this, but the bill frisell vids on youtube of him= from his old instruction vid is GREAT!) (i should note i also think my lex= icon mx200 does decent short varispeed delays, i should mess w/that more!) = (and stop whining!)
of course these are just the things i know from using low end gear, oh= , the boss dd7 did varispeed decent, and my current digitech dl8 does it de= cent on the short delays.
i think i was hoping more from the TIMEBENDER, wanting to use it as my= main looper, but it was lacking for me (like not all modes went to 5 sec, = etc)
i think it's a real crapper than digitech can't come out w/ th= e mother of all delay based loopers that combined what the pcm42/dod d12/pd= s8000 could do. make it have 20 sec of delay and really be able to control = it, take short loops and stretch them out or long loops and shorten them to= get the mickey mouse high pitch stuff. it just sucks since they F***ING ow= n all the companies that produced this great gear in the past, oh well i ca= n dream. instead they focus on putting out phrase samplers that can hold a = million hrs of stuff in memory, oh well...
i should note in the varispeed debate-i=A0 have not been able to check= out any of the high end delay options, like the eventide delay box, the tc= electronics delay box, or the pigtonix 20 sec delay box, that honestly loo= ks like the thing i'd like to have, but it's close to 500 beans, ab= out the=A0 total of all my gear combined....
oh-i should also note that=A0 i'd probably like the dd20 more now,= since i've settled w/ what the dl8 can do, neither of which were close= to my old dod d12, i just didn't want to mess w/=A0 rack stuff any mor= e.....
end of long blather, hope there's an answer somewhere in there for= you....
=A0
btw-i'm currently listening to david torn's splattercell/loops= for acid/soundtrack thing (this is not the correct title, i'm 2 lazy t= o pull the disc out), man there are some great sounds on here. and it's= perfect for short attention span person like me, just short little clips o= f interesting sounds/processing/ explorations...i=A0 know=A0 it's suppo= sed to be a tool for composers to use in soundtracks and stuff, but great l= istening.....
s---
=A0
some1 wrote:
question to all Timebender users:

1. Is the timebender similar = to the DD20 mentioned before insofar as the
delays are the interesting = thing, not the looper?
2. What about the looper?
3. Does the timebend= er do a proper varispeed (i.e. tape speed
change-kind) when you adjust the delay time while there's something already in the delay?

--0016364d1dc90d740d04990cfd0b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 01:59:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16575183475; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=L0NvJRx+026lmr03w+wbsElxAjXU6EEoreWbbVt86Lq8HiL4F5hBr5L0e3HHh0im; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <32500836.1294192786709.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:59:46 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: sitting gear (TIMEBENDER)-from my bad memory//splattercell loops... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd480f3b3da3069fa0abb1dd0f2c79ee886e2601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:59:47 +0000 (UTC) speaking of the pds 8000, my go to box-my friend James Potter, some of you know-is selling his baby: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260717045164&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_1156 -----Original Message----- From: Scott Hansen Sent: Jan 4, 2011 2:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: sitting gear (TIMEBENDER)-from my bad memory//splattercell loops... this is all from memory, since it's been probably 3 yrs since i had a dd20, and over a yr since i had the timebender: it is similar in aspect to the dd20 in that it has a # of delay options, but the longest was only 5 sec, and honestly i thought the delay options for 100% feedback seemed limited. it was not at all like my old dod d12 (12 sec of delay, the budget lexicon pcm42 i thought of it as), but remember the dd20 has 23 sec of delay. to me the timebender seemed like a pitchshifter that had some delay options, and pitchshifting is probably the effect that interestes me the least, perhaps that's b/c i also have pitch options in my digitech rp150 and my lexicon mx200 (which again i use very rarely). i thought the tape mode was decent, but it didn't blow me away. if you want varispeed pitch, i like the ibanez de7 (which is cheap, and i wish i wouldn't have sold, although it doesn't go to 100% feedback), my guyatone md3, which is my other piece of gear that i've had in storage that may come out soon, and of course the EH 16ddl does varispeed pitchshifting nice. as does the old digitech pds8000 (no direct experience w/ this, but the bill frisell vids on youtube of him from his old instruction vid is GREAT!) (i should note i also think my lexicon mx200 does decent short varispeed delays, i should mess w/that more!) (and stop whining!) of course these are just the things i know from using low end gear, oh, the boss dd7 did varispeed decent, and my current digitech dl8 does it decent on the short delays. i think i was hoping more from the TIMEBENDER, wanting to use it as my main looper, but it was lacking for me (like not all modes went to 5 sec, etc) i think it's a real crapper than digitech can't come out w/ the mother of all delay based loopers that combined what the pcm42/dod d12/pds8000 could do. make it have 20 sec of delay and really be able to control it, take short loops and stretch them out or long loops and shorten them to get the mickey mouse high pitch stuff. it just sucks since they F***ING own all the companies that produced this great gear in the past, oh well i can dream. instead they focus on putting out phrase samplers that can hold a million hrs of stuff in memory, oh well... i should note in the varispeed debate-i have not been able to check out any of the high end delay options, like the eventide delay box, the tc electronics delay box, or the pigtonix 20 sec delay box, that honestly looks like the thing i'd like to have, but it's close to 500 beans, about the total of all my gear combined.... oh-i should also note that i'd probably like the dd20 more now, since i've settled w/ what the dl8 can do, neither of which were close to my old dod d12, i just didn't want to mess w/ rack stuff any more..... end of long blather, hope there's an answer somewhere in there for you.... btw-i'm currently listening to david torn's splattercell/loops for acid/soundtrack thing (this is not the correct title, i'm 2 lazy to pull the disc out), man there are some great sounds on here. and it's perfect for short attention span person like me, just short little clips of interesting sounds/processing/ explorations...i know it's supposed to be a tool for composers to use in soundtracks and stuff, but great listening..... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen some1 wrote: question to all Timebender users: 1. Is the timebender similar to the DD20 mentioned before insofar as the delays are the interesting thing, not the looper? 2. What about the looper? 3. Does the timebender do a proper varispeed (i.e. tape speed change-kind) when you adjust the delay time while there's something already in the delay? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 03:26:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ADA2183466; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 03:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YbhUSJ4RA0eORTezT6MmWKZbqq14dIhf+Yy/+Ov5BE1WOX6QJKhaDUTSTFViRO/M; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:26:16 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: RIP Mick Karn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec799346105e8b8f0ebba1729fee51c68833350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 03:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Sad sad day.... I met him through David Torn when Polytown did a show in Minneapolis. At the time David Sylvian was living there and both Torn and Karn were perplexed at why he didn't bother to turn up at their gig.. I'll miss him. -Chuck -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 03:46:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3145D183466; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 03:46:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fJVSMLnp0BnnxZOrcqhXiukUQGNegLuot++bPJquAoU=; b=mnBSO0IYbPLZVvBif2GImcvV7ifcjtMyHdGaq/GWJZiHEstZVefavrY6w0Md6yaU8l 1689CDVSQJwBhGwXPE/is0jJ2qWOrTg4qsqXI+HqXsRDf3YvjU8hp3b4sB3Ihp8+GeDq 3LZGvGe50WuLmHxk0GFNSienLMD9eHThG74Og= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=V2T5Nk9SjL9/eJTOmLmqRtWhQ7C2As6LQREOXclAzyi+o3L7VEZCv/3TTeG6QJmGsT 0Dqfs7hiSVaGYXNYRJdjxzz9wVrA024in76jFZiV8wt5qvxfRA7iR8R+ZKbUaSNly4S0 fV3NbRAsZyR5WJiXtCrYtwBwyfWr82uXlpbOU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:46:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Mick Karn From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325575c16780be10499113bd0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 03:46:40 +0000 (UTC) --000325575c16780be10499113bd0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That is sad, Godspeed Mick! On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Sad sad day.... I met him through David Torn when Polytown did a show in > Minneapolis. At the time David Sylvian was living there and both Torn and > Karn were perplexed at why he didn't bother to turn up at their gig.. > > I'll miss him. > > -Chuck > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --000325575c16780be10499113bd0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is sad, Godspeed Mick!

On Tue, Jan 4= , 2011 at 7:26 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sad sad day.... =A0I met him through David Torn when Polytown did a show in= Minneapolis. =A0At the time David Sylvian was living there and both Torn a= nd Karn were perplexed at why he didn't bother to turn up at their gig.= .

I'll miss him.

-Chuck


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http://www.zmix.net
http://ww= w.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcred= its.com/zmix




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Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/= artsimon
--000325575c16780be10499113bd0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 05:25:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25D7C183466; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 05:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <578E0E54-E479-47CC-B496-CB5282D18D36@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-217831591 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:25:27 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 05:25:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-217831591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff The Duke sez: I don't use gear with an idea of what I think it should do so much as see what it does and then think how I can use that. Thanks for saying that Jeff , because that's also the way it is for me with gear. I explore a piece of gear and try to pull as much as I can out of what the designer came up with. If given the chance to talk to the designer I might proffer a suggestion in person, but in much of the corporate music manufacturing world that isn't possible unless you have an inside connection. I go to NAMM nearly every year and most of those designer guys are more interested in chatting up rocker chicks. I personally didn't have much input on the feature set for the LP-1. Frankly That was all Bob with a lot off input from my brother Rick and Steve Lawson, and latter from a consensus of user suggested options. I think they built a pretty great feature set, one that I'm still uncovering things on three years down the line. I didn't have any input on the line 6 M-9 other than join a chorus of users with pedal board real estate issues in wishing there was a slightly more compact version of the M-13. Both pieces of gear are continuing to inspire me and offer up new possibilities. Last night MR Inside was going way out side with the M-9's ring modulator and an expression pedal. Now I've always loved ring modulators. I had an AH frequency analyzer for a number of years, but I could not see the point in hanging on to something I used really sparingly. This is true for several different vintage effects that I would love to use on occasion , but not necessarily feel the need to own as individual pieces. Those include ones I used to have like the ada flanger, mxr phaser and flanger, echoplex and space echo, or lusted after when they were new but I didn't own like the tri stereo chorus and original boss chorus ensemble. In addition as I've spouted numerous times before, just on its merit alone as a delay this thing has more options than most dedicated floor delays. A typical set of delay options for me might be a volume swell delay or reverse delay in to a sweep or analog delay in to a stereo delay all set to compatible rhythmic values with a dedicated expression pedal to morph them all slightly, and slaved to incoming midi sync from my LP-1. From the bit I've checked out the timbenderit is really cool and I wish more delays allowed the ability to set an expression pedal to control the input feeding the dealy for freeze style effects. That was one cool thing I liked about the original vox tone lap, that you could assign an expression pedal in that way. Bill --Apple-Mail-2-217831591 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Jeff The Duke = sez:

 I don't use gear with an = idea
of what I think it should = do so much as see what it does and then
think how I can use = that.
Thanks for saying that = Jeff , because that's also the way it is for me with gear. I explore a = piece of gear and try to pull as much as I can out of what the designer = came up with. If given the chance to talk to the designer I might = proffer a suggestion in person, but in much of the  corporate music = manufacturing world that isn't possible unless you have an inside = connection. I go to NAMM nearly every year and most of those designer = guys are more interested in chatting up rocker chicks.  I = personally didn't have much input on the feature set for the LP-1. = Frankly  That was all Bob with a lot off input from my brother Rick = and Steve Lawson, and latter from a consensus of user suggested options. =  I think they built a pretty great feature set, one that I'm still = uncovering things on three years down the line.  I didn't have any = input on the  line 6 M-9 other than join a chorus of users with = pedal board real estate issues in wishing there was a slightly more = compact version of the M-13.  Both pieces of gear are continuing to = inspire me and offer up new possibilities. Last night  MR Inside = was going way out side with the M-9's ring modulator and an expression = pedal. Now I've always loved ring modulators. I had an AH frequency = analyzer for a number of years, but I could not see the point in hanging = on to something I used really sparingly. This is true for several = different vintage effects that I would love to use on occasion , but not = necessarily feel the need to own as individual pieces. Those include = ones I used to have like the ada flanger, mxr phaser and flanger, = echoplex  and space echo, or lusted after when they were new but I = didn't own  like the tri stereo chorus and original  boss = chorus ensemble.  In addition as I've spouted numerous times = before, just on its merit alone as a delay this thing has more options = than most dedicated floor delays.  A typical set of delay options = for me might be a volume swell delay or reverse delay in to a sweep or = analog delay in to a stereo delay all set to compatible rhythmic values = with a dedicated expression pedal to morph them all slightly, and slaved = to  incoming midi sync from my LP-1. =46rom the bit I've checked = out the timbenderit  is really cool and I wish more delays allowed = the ability to set an expression pedal  to control the input = feeding the dealy for freeze style effects. That was one cool thing I = liked about the original vox tone lap, that  you could assign an = expression pedal in that way.  
Bill

= --Apple-Mail-2-217831591-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 06:24:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 123FC183466; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <01CCEF1B-8B63-4F44-ABFD-260464AEE8B5@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: RIP Mick Karn Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:24:44 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <1Wm9qB.A.11G.06AJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:24:52 +0000 (UTC) I just heard the sad news about Mick Karn loosing his battle with cancer. What a truly unique and beautiful bassist he was. His fretlless bass playing was as orignal sounding as any I've ever heard, a very vocal sound, melodic yet grounded and earthy and funky. listen to Polytown with Torn and Bozzio or Tin Drum by Japan to hear what I mean A great one has joine the great band beyond Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 07:28:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2617A183466; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9f86a668-88e5-4f6a-97f7-10ad7cf54760_" X-Originating-IP: [86.141.147.179] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: RIP Mick Karn Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:27:59 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01CCEF1B-8B63-4F44-ABFD-260464AEE8B5@baymoon.com> References: <01CCEF1B-8B63-4F44-ABFD-260464AEE8B5@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2011 07:27:59.0926 (UTC) FILETIME=[148AF560:01CBACAA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:28:02 +0000 (UTC) --_9f86a668-88e5-4f6a-97f7-10ad7cf54760_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seconded. A very rare=2C unique musical voice. That's gotta be some amazing band up there... =20 peace =20 G =20 > From: billwalker@baymoon.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: RIP Mick Karn > Date: Tue=2C 4 Jan 2011 22:24:44 -0800 >=20 > I just heard the sad news about Mick Karn loosing his battle with=20 > cancer. What a truly unique and beautiful bassist he was. His=20 > fretlless bass playing was as orignal sounding as any I've ever heard=2C= =20 > a very vocal sound=2C melodic yet grounded and earthy and funky.=20 > listen to Polytown with Torn and Bozzio or Tin Drum by Japan to hear=20 > what I mean > A great one has joine the great band beyond > Bill >=20 = --_9f86a668-88e5-4f6a-97f7-10ad7cf54760_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seconded. A very rare=2C unique musical =3Bvoice.
That's gotta be some amazing band up there...
 =3B
peace
 =3B
G
 =3B
>=3B From: billwalker@baymoon.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
>=3B Subject: OT: RIP Mick Karn
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 4 Ja= n 2011 22:24:44 -0800
>=3B
>=3B I just heard the sad news about = Mick Karn loosing his battle with
>=3B cancer. What a truly unique an= d beautiful bassist he was. His
>=3B fretlless bass playing was as or= ignal sounding as any I've ever heard=2C
>=3B a very vocal sound=2C m= elodic yet grounded and earthy and funky.
>=3B listen to Polytown wit= h Torn and Bozzio or Tin Drum by Japan to hear
>=3B what I mean
&g= t=3B A great one has joine the great band beyond
>=3B Bill
>=3B <= BR> = --_9f86a668-88e5-4f6a-97f7-10ad7cf54760_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 07:29:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81B29183457; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: Fripp & Eno Live... Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 08:29:09 +0100 Message-ID: <80D60FDF8C4D46F29A9C95B8BBF49561@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: Acuspv2YADwUqavTTIWmoORmZee95gAAv8tg In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:29:13 +0000 (UTC) > Regardless, looks like some cool sh*t. Although the liner notes seem to indicate that there have been portions of this floating around unofficially as a bootleg for quite a while. Anybody actually heard this in the past? yes, I know the bootleg. The official record is partly based on the bootleg, with ok sound quality, and accompanied by some of the (solo-less) original tape loops in better sound quality. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 07:31:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC656183474; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ded94af8-e44e-4eeb-af95-9a35d13cf329_" X-Originating-IP: [86.141.147.179] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: -discovering your gear that sits on your board Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:31:49 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <578E0E54-E479-47CC-B496-CB5282D18D36@baymoon.com> References: <578E0E54-E479-47CC-B496-CB5282D18D36@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2011 07:31:49.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D8AFAE0:01CBACAA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:31:51 +0000 (UTC) --_ded94af8-e44e-4eeb-af95-9a35d13cf329_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wonder if that has parallels with hardware/software users ? I work the op= posite way. I have an idea of what I'd like to do and then try to get thing= s=2C (a computer) to do it.. Of course=2C it's great to discover things serendipitously too... =20 peace =20 g =20 From: billwalker@baymoon.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board Date: Tue=2C 4 Jan 2011 21:25:27 -0800 Jeff The Duke sez: I don't use gear with an idea of what I think it should do so much as see what it does and then think how I can use that. Thanks for saying that Jeff =2C because that's also the way it is for me wi= th gear. I explore a piece of gear and try to pull as much as I can out of = what the designer came up with. If given the chance to talk to the designer= I might proffer a suggestion in person=2C but in much of the corporate mu= sic manufacturing world that isn't possible unless you have an inside conne= ction. I go to NAMM nearly every year and most of those designer guys are m= ore interested in chatting up rocker chicks. I personally didn't have much= input on the feature set for the LP-1. Frankly That was all Bob with a lo= t off input from my brother Rick and Steve Lawson=2C and latter from a cons= ensus of user suggested options. I think they built a pretty great feature= set=2C one that I'm still uncovering things on three years down the line. = I didn't have any input on the line 6 M-9 other than join a chorus of use= rs with pedal board real estate issues in wishing there was a slightly more= compact version of the M-13. Both pieces of gear are continuing to inspir= e me and offer up new possibilities. Last night MR Inside was going way ou= t side with the M-9's ring modulator and an expression pedal. Now I've alwa= ys loved ring modulators. I had an AH frequency analyzer for a number of ye= ars=2C but I could not see the point in hanging on to something I used real= ly sparingly. This is true for several different vintage effects that I wou= ld love to use on occasion =2C but not necessarily feel the need to own as = individual pieces. Those include ones I used to have like the ada flanger= =2C mxr phaser and flanger=2C echoplex and space echo=2C or lusted after w= hen they were new but I didn't own like the tri stereo chorus and original= boss chorus ensemble. In addition as I've spouted numerous times before= =2C just on its merit alone as a delay this thing has more options than mos= t dedicated floor delays. A typical set of delay options for me might be a= volume swell delay or reverse delay in to a sweep or analog delay in to a = stereo delay all set to compatible rhythmic values with a dedicated express= ion pedal to morph them all slightly=2C and slaved to incoming midi sync f= rom my LP-1. From the bit I've checked out the timbenderit is really cool = and I wish more delays allowed the ability to set an expression pedal to c= ontrol the input feeding the dealy for freeze style effects. That was one c= ool thing I liked about the original vox tone lap=2C that you could assign= an expression pedal in that way. =20 Bill = --_ded94af8-e44e-4eeb-af95-9a35d13cf329_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wonder if that has parallels with hardware/software users ? I work the op= posite way. =3BI have an idea of what I'd like to do and then try to ge= t things=2C (a computer) to do it..
Of course=2C it's great to discover things serendipitously too...
 =3B
peace
 =3B
g
 =3B
From: billwalker@baymoon.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
= Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board
Date: Tue=2C= 4 Jan 2011 21:25:27 -0800

 =3BJeff The Duke sez:

<= /SPAN>
 =3BI don't= use gear with an idea
of what I think it should do so much as see what it doe= s and then
think how I can use that.


Thanks for saying that Jeff =2C because that's also the way it= is for me with gear. I explore a piece of gear and try to pull as much as = I can out of what the designer came up with. If given the chance to talk to= the designer I might proffer a suggestion in person=2C but in much of the =  =3Bcorporate music manufacturing world that isn't possible unless you = have an inside connection. I go to NAMM nearly every year and most of those= designer guys are more interested in chatting up rocker chicks.  =3BI = personally didn't have much input on the feature set for the LP-1. Frankly =  =3BThat was all Bob with a lot off input from my brother Rick and Stev= e Lawson=2C and latter from a consensus of user suggested options.  =3B= I think they built a pretty great feature set=2C one that I'm still uncover= ing things on three years down the line.  =3BI didn't have any input on= the  =3Bline 6 M-9 other than join a chorus of users with pedal board = real estate issues in wishing there was a slightly more compact version of = the M-13.  =3BBoth pieces of gear are continuing to inspire me and offe= r up new possibilities. Last night  =3BMR Inside was going way out side= with the M-9's ring modulator and an expression pedal. Now I've always lov= ed ring modulators. I had an AH frequency analyzer for a number of years=2C= but I could not see the point in hanging on to something I used really spa= ringly. This is true for several different vintage effects that I would lov= e to use on occasion =2C but not necessarily feel the need to own as indivi= dual pieces. Those include ones I used to have like the ada flanger=2C mxr = phaser and flanger=2C echoplex  =3Band space echo=2C or lusted after wh= en they were new but I didn't own  =3Blike the tri stereo chorus and or= iginal  =3Bboss chorus ensemble.  =3BIn addition as I've spouted nu= merous times before=2C just on its merit alone as a delay this thing has mo= re options than most dedicated floor delays.  =3BA typical set of delay= options for me might be a volume swell delay or reverse delay in to a swee= p or analog delay in to a stereo delay all set to compatible rhythmic value= s with a dedicated expression pedal to morph them all slightly=2C and slave= d to  =3Bincoming midi sync from my LP-1. From the bit I've checked out= the timbenderit  =3Bis really cool and I wish more delays allowed the = ability to set an expression pedal  =3Bto control the input feeding the= dealy for freeze style effects. That was one cool thing I liked about the = original vox tone lap=2C that  =3Byou could assign an expression pedal = in that way.  =3B
Bill

= = --_ded94af8-e44e-4eeb-af95-9a35d13cf329_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 08:16:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A17CE18345B; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 08:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gjsNQ7bf0ZwZh1R90Sa7N0PJRAJZmhvOeNiSprfCSI0=; b=GwCQsbUpoT3b4BuZG7P2G0Ajss9T9nQvfraeyqbVyY3K43mfe9rkwILP0jjc7SwhMb iqVtY4UOBLfpReuQmKH6Ob0Rr8kn/2kjOSAGEd5L6EvjSmWODD4dqRAPtJLZaRFN+TRy mrAwqojaafsQs05mLMVtlElw7ezxmNfR8vf0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nUm3ZRKUFB8uUbD5slbFab1jMmyFPxfDOLvqvaInXryDPvVd6bPdFcjWlk3HhziGYM yj4O7vYSmAmivzxD/gA5RKpSAxekxqLBaGz0ybJ/I6HARUSUSgCpA9ytc2qafg2A+pPm 0R+/Ga6WPeXZBIvG9imVnA5oh+0BlAmMH7c40= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 00:16:54 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: LP2 by July? (What are chances?) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 08:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, Does anyone know what the chances are that the Looperlative LP-2 might be out by July? I'm going on tour this summer, and will be adding a second looper to my rig. I've been holding out for an LP-2 since I got to play with Rick's prototype. However, if it won't be out by then, I'll have to get another DL-4. Thoughts? -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 09:36:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A2F018345B; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 09:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=XzYfBzWLRT5hsPRwfB+Rfu6GvmqqPjlf4onFjUAdGp/jQeBq7xTtAvz/ubH7XiK9; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <4426605.1294220186335.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:36:26 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: RIP Mick Karn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48a973a156f19f09cff86382d71e5bfdf1387f7b89c61deb1d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 09:36:27 +0000 (UTC) godd that is so sadd! i heard/loved many a cds w/ him-saw polytown here in sf @ GAMH and indeed he was a great and wonderful musician-so sorry to hear tonite-harshing my mellow -----Original Message----- >From: William Walker >Sent: Jan 4, 2011 10:24 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: OT: RIP Mick Karn > >I just heard the sad news about Mick Karn loosing his battle with >cancer. What a truly unique and beautiful bassist he was. His >fretlless bass playing was as orignal sounding as any I've ever heard, >a very vocal sound, melodic yet grounded and earthy and funky. >listen to Polytown with Torn and Bozzio or Tin Drum by Japan to hear >what I mean > A great one has joine the great band beyond >Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 10:17:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C77DA183459; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=37LH9c/WuzmjAu6oaTRCxhnCbx+vO/GyDdykIXjWKlo=; b=JJ8r6TLcep2esTsFjJZihbJviWRgyrVPn45rEXx2NJrwXVMEfKJCvs6ZicS2nmd7Ip LXTmGzFuGV53w33Mn9eim4BKVN4gHq7xI901sch1PM7dEP0dN3jXKVduDKsk2eix5uY9 TwkQ/0rBVwqnMg/8h4dw5e8jsJnPz0M22RQtY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=nD46ZuPLS2filRWtNSVdwr3s034D4ensRcUK8AMQ6jj1ALmY/W+H0QUoYghnckipJ5 KZH7yKSWqr3vlbkJAAfIjFUMv3apY/V4YTuo9+O+rXfT9gl9KasOSoL8K+YzJvYCnipg nr5l8DmJM0HuqmZR7ZnU5NP6cdDMb/M5DARYM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4426605.1294220186335.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <4426605.1294220186335.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:17:07 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wmkBba5e0BLOsbO0pPhKtYxH25Q Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: RIP Mick Karn To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a0732ce617049916b119 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:17:30 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a0732ce617049916b119 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is indeed very sad news. His bass sound for me was the sound of the early 80s, not least as I had a bass player girlfriend who adored him, and filed her frets off. Ive been wondering whether to mention this as it seems like trumpeting, but earlier this year, about 2 months before he announced his Cancer, I was approached by a Polish friend of mine who had been in touch with him for many years and had been, in some way, trying to get him back on the road. He was suffering financially and was by all accounts completely broke and living a quite hermetic life on Cyprus. My friend had suggested me to him as a possible guitarist for a forthcoming tour, he had apparently listened to some of my stuff and liked it. I got a mail from him out of the blue one day saying that what was my schedule like and would I tour for free (I beieve that Torn and Aaset et el had all been asked before me, and their monetary requirements were out of the question) .. It took a micro second to reply...however... I never heard anything more, and expect that it would not have gone anywhere anyway. Im not mentioning this in anyway commiserating about MY bad luck, indeed, it wasnt REALLY my kinda gig, just that it happened, and Im sad that he died. Very, very sad. Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054a0732ce617049916b119 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is indeed very sad news. His bass sound for me was the sound of the ea= rly 80s, not least as I had a bass player girlfriend=A0 who adored him, and= filed her frets off.

Ive been wondering whether to mention this as = it seems like trumpeting, but earlier this year, about 2 months before he a= nnounced his Cancer, I was approached by a Polish friend of mine who had be= en in touch with him for many years and had been, in some way, trying to ge= t him back on the road. He was suffering financially and was by all account= s completely broke and living a quite hermetic life on Cyprus. My friend ha= d suggested me to him as a possible guitarist for a forthcoming tour, he ha= d apparently listened to some of my stuff and liked it. I got a mail from h= im out of the blue one day saying that what was my schedule like and would = I tour for free (I beieve that Torn and Aaset et el had all been asked befo= re me, and their monetary requirements were out of the question) .. It took= a micro second to reply...however... I never heard anything more, and expe= ct that it would not have gone anywhere anyway.

Im not mentioning this in anyway commiserating about MY bad luck, indee= d, it wasnt REALLY my kinda gig, just that it happened, and Im sad that he = died. Very, very sad.

Mark


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mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @ma= rkfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/use= r825094
http://www.looop.no
--20cf3054a0732ce617049916b119-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 10:56:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01F1D183473; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <80D60FDF8C4D46F29A9C95B8BBF49561@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <80D60FDF8C4D46F29A9C95B8BBF49561@mpeserver> Subject: Re: Fripp & Eno Live... Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:56:09 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:56:12 +0000 (UTC) ?I downloaded said bootleg some time ago. I was tempted to clean it up myself but even the venerable Cool Edit 2.0 had difficulty when it came to the obvious hand-shuffling of the mic during the performance - to say nothing of the crowd conversation. Ultimately in comparison with the studio recordings it was not very listenable, though I was tempted to mix together the studio recordings in order to get the same effect. End result, I didn't. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Peters Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:29 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Fripp & Eno Live... > Regardless, looks like some cool sh*t. Although the liner notes seem to indicate that there have been portions of this floating around unofficially as a bootleg for quite a while. Anybody actually heard this in the past? yes, I know the bootleg. 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b=SO2wdvvsjI7zXcn8UAZWPa8h3ORxpzn+eAim/g2qFVI5JO9BLPHJko6qru6df1TEuz h2cy0hy5O9RBy8sqASpiFNzOxaBdjhhVHMXovBpCLAE/yUFhrqPNPrMRa66Zvi2iXq4n rQEsnvia5wdU9YfuYaMeYCtVAICFEa4t/jU9o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:content-type; b=d7WBWxrr7+VTwvttyGoSSR4ImsnuD2h0s0slwUwDutTv8tW+BPIeYNxUQH/HmijVg0 4TLIlq1VQ7OOeLKfotRANR9ibRVU7Ht6mDus4KdDAOaILN9p/EsXfreHVQ69wqPbGlZW BPfLSDPEaCIHngH4psIRkIIGfiUHBh+9psWdU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.146.9 with SMTP id f9mt11871940wbv.209.1294232182458; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 04:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.11.72 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 04:56:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:56:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: HELLO From: KEN DWIGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65c86dcd863b9049918e910 To: undisclosed-recipients:; --0016e65c86dcd863b9049918e910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kent Chambers Kent House Romney Place Maidstone Kent ME15 6LH DX: 4844 Maidstone 1 Attn: The purpose of this letter is to briefly introduce myself and also inform you of a very important and classified information that relates to monetary issues as regards the late client ( Albert ).I am Ken Dwight, Member of (KENT CHAMBERS UK)I have decided to write you via this private mail box for personal reasons for my own security, further correspondence shall be official via my firm's email address if necessary.It requires your urgent attention and I would love to meet with you personally, for about an hour or so, to discuss this issue. To set up a meeting for this at your convenience, I propose to call your office by the end of today.It is my hope that we will be able to arrange to meet at your offices.However before we proceed, please confirm your last name. In the meantime, best of luck with your endeavors, and I look forward to answering any questions you may have and also meeting with you and doing business with you in the near future.Lastly get back with your phone number. Best Regards, Barrister KEN DWIGHT --0016e65c86dcd863b9049918e910 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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The purpose of this l= etter is to briefly introduce myself and also inform you of a very importan= t and classified information that relates to monetary issues as regards the= late client ( Albert ).I am Ken Dwight, Member of (KENT CHAMBERS UK)I have= decided to write you via this private mail box for personal reasons for my= own security, further correspondence shall be official via my firm's e= mail address if necessary.It requires your urgent attention and I would lov= e to meet with you personally, for about an hour or so, to discuss this iss= ue. To set up a meeting for this at your convenience, I propose to call you= r office by the end of today.It is my hope that we will be able to arrange = to meet at your offices.However before we proceed, please confirm your last= name. In the meantime, best of luck with your endeavors, and I look forwar= d to answering any questions you may have and also meeting with you and doi= ng business with you in the near future.Lastly get back with your phone num= ber.
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--0016e65c86dcd863b9049918e910-- From rebthatchewish@gmail.com Wed Jan 5 13:39:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 923 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at hemlock; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:39:17 UTC Received: from mailsrv.tahboub.jo (mailsrv.tahboub.jo [77.245.9.221]) by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FC018345A; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:39:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([82.128.62.195]) by mailsrv.tahboub.jo with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:16:31 +0300 Reply-To: From: "Lady Rebecca Thatcher" Subject: IT IS YOUR CALLING!!!! Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 05:17:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2011 12:16:32.0265 (UTC) FILETIME=[63803F90:01CBACD2] To: undisclosed-recipients:; From: Lady Rebecca Thatcher. No:38-41 Old Church Street, Manchester, London England. Beloved,i am Lady Rebecca Thatcher, suffering from cancerous ailment. I was married to Sir Jeremy Thatcher an English shipping tycoon notable for his great wealth, influential extended family, and charitable activities all his life before his death. My husband died after a protracted illness in April 2nd, 2006. Our life together as husband and wife lasted for about three decades without a child. My late husband and I made a vow to uplift the down-trodden and the less-privileged individuals in the society, as we both had passion for those people who can not help themselves due to physical disability or financial predicament. I can adduce this to the fact that we both needed a Child from this relationship, which never came. When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of Twenty Million Pounds Sterling(20,000,000.00 GBP) which were derived from his vast estates and investment in capital market with his bank here in UK and named me as the beneficiary of this trust fund.(all records are kept with my family lawyer). Presently, this money is still with the Bank. Recently, my Doctor told me that I have limited days to live, due to the cancerous problems that i have been suffering from. Though what bothers me most is the stroke that I have in addition with the cancer. Hence, With this hard reality that has befallen my family and me, I have decided to donate this fund to you and i want you to use this gift which comes from my Late husbands effort to establish a charity home called "Thatcher Charity Foundation" for the upkeep of the down-trodden and persons who prove to be genuinely handicapped financially. I took this decision because I do not have any child that will inherit this money and my husband relatives are bourgeois and very wealthy persons and I do not want my husband's hard earned money to be misused or invested into ill perceived ventures. Also i do not want a situation where this funds will be used in a worldly manner, hence the reason for taking this bold decision. I do not need any telephone communication in this regard due to my deteriorating health and because of the presence of my husband relatives around me, as i am currently bedridden in the Family house here in 38-41 Old Church Street, Manchester and do not receive any visitors unless approved by Talmund Thatcher who is the immediate younger brother to my late husband. I do not want them to know about this development in order to safegurad this bequeast. So, i want you to Contact my family lawyer Barrister Matthew penny. (ESQ) with this specified email address: mpennychamber@gmail.com and Tell him that I have WILLED the £20,000,000 to you by quoting my personal reference number Law/chamber/solicitors/rt/cfd/WILL/9834520012, as I have earlier notified him that I will be WILLING the funds to you for a specific purpose and good work. My happiness is that I lived a life worthy of emulation, and i want you to be kindhearted all through your life. Please, assure me that you will act just as I have stated herein. as i hope to hear from you soon that you have contacted my family lawyer with the email address that i have given to you above, as he is presently waiting to receive your reply. Remain blessed, Lady Rebecca Thatcher. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 14:10:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32052183474; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=iML1nh9DkDi2c6zx581nfGGmgdJqYpDi3mAJcBUHXow4khSyuFlsDNoWRj+xo3ml; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01CCEF1B-8B63-4F44-ABFD-260464AEE8B5@baymoon.com> References: <01CCEF1B-8B63-4F44-ABFD-260464AEE8B5@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 09:07:54 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: RIP Mick Karn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79745f23b30de74f5ca30e5c5b53b38d45350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Bill, When I originally posted this news here, I did so out of respect and deference to his contribution to music and art. I don't think you should have changed it to "OT".. Too many loopers involved in his career and his composition style is quite loopy... -Chuck >I just heard the sad news about Mick Karn loosing his battle with >cancer. What a truly unique and beautiful bassist he was. His >fretlless bass playing was as orignal sounding as any I've ever >heard, a very vocal sound, melodic yet grounded and earthy and >funky. >listen to Polytown with Torn and Bozzio or Tin Drum by Japan to hear >what I mean > A great one has joine the great band beyond >Bill > > > > >>Sad sad day.... I met him through David Torn when Polytown did a >>show in Minneapolis. At the time David Sylvian was living there >>and both Torn and Karn were perplexed at why he didn't bother to >>turn up at their gig.. >> >>I'll miss him. >> >>-Chuck -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From dabire.asim@gmail.com Wed Jan 5 14:16:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from nm22-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm22-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.223]) by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 40547183458 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:15:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.69] by nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2011 14:15:40 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.35] by tm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2011 14:15:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2011 14:15:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 871870.26611.bm@omp1035.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 78105 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jan 2011 14:15:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294236940; bh=JSlJesOs/YfUlmNgmJKveSWIeRv0a47UnOV5ekeuXCI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HDnMaYLLzp//ZNd18x2PBQ5AqGNUYFWU3YDXMsxupyliNVFRy4GTruU15XzQJvbDWfdVAHGsORI/4yQhmbKw/5sq49f8XyyWOywBi8pw51Y56pBTTp8h0nXO0w0VFRhZ3KrOAx1sWKGkoyKv14iR/zAh+K+yLEc7F223nskDjio= Message-ID: <738770.74203.qm@web83815.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lx14ZvIVM1k1obyGAL0JFsu9lEQZL.1gwtA58xE50l6n5mH EmqpChZMwt.Sv73fc.uRwsscospx0jxDZ.Qr8xssx_svdzL_88gHBmFyi2Fl gDfTes9Or4T8aaF6CPr.VSL97Pk0m6O5xeCVfFCDHIdGULayS2tPHPgHyd_g cwN_8ikkQkybRaXWfeuLCCSHBuZsgB7beDbX_os9LBFLKKuJ4YZu4AivgUlP w1mEIDgiyONPlJaoE91k5ngmH9wEJB1nJMtEILldbr8QOZn_i302vbXk3As. 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To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1436483777-1294236940=:74203" --0-1436483777-1294236940=:74203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, How are you with your family? I hope fine. I'm happy to inform you about my success in getting those funds transferred under the cooperation of a new partner from Mexico,i am precisely in mexico, meanwhile I didn't forget your past efforts to assist me in transferring those funds despite that it failed us some how. Now contact my secretary in Burkina-Faso West Africa through her e-mail id (mariam.ph@o2.pl) ask her to send you the total cheque of ($800.000.00US DOLLARS)which I kept for your compensation for all the past efforts and attempts to assist me in this transaction. so feel free and get in touched with my secretary Mrs .Mariam Philip. she will send the draft to you. Regards, Mr Asim Dabire --0-1436483777-1294236940=:74203 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Greetings,

How are you with your family? I hope fine. I'm happy to inform you about my success in getting those funds transferred under the cooperation of a new partner from Mexico,i am precisely in mexico, meanwhile I didn't forget your past efforts to assist me in transferring those funds despite that it failed us some how. Now contact my secretary in Burkina-Faso West Africa through her e-mail id (mariam.ph@o2.pl) ask her to send you the total cheque of ($800.000.00US DOLLARS)which I kept for your compensation for all the past efforts and attempts to assist me in this transaction. so feel free and get in touched with my secretary Mrs .Mariam Philip. she will send the draft to you.
Regards,

Mr Asim Dabire
--0-1436483777-1294236940=:74203-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 14:24:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D916818345B; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nkITmPub70uWXpkMataBCWxqOoQcupOZlnp3hk1h6pY=; b=I6m9U+EJvg/YKoIMWsruGGDG9ZDwW1ZgRl6+oJxqLrH0A0aCldcV826YQ9G8ds5Eqj NBFAbl5e+Cy449DWkNvkeKXTNy7vPlr4E90oh5s6cmhqUF7EDDSyv0P5obtZPdzvpYli lcKIidTmVzw42zAMHPvppbmgpjkVCX+FGUYN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CQNc4vCfZz17FfC1OFOVLzAiDiJoR8Kfl4bL2lPOPBmb0HZ9l7+IsQbOhM9dqA5XdC Rv79d4Fkc2TlVTQj097DyJmBKQDG08JSgsWCA0A8aSWmAZY7omNnKkjZRVEtsncuYL8Y diM6AQPGZmuUnKuJT1CB4pVoAz+id03vDYsYE= Message-ID: <4D247F02.4040608@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:24:02 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 by July? (What are chances?) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Bob Amstadt tweeted yesterday that 30 purple casings were on the way to his house, and that he was going to be taking pre-orders very soon. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Hi all, > > Does anyone know what the chances are that the Looperlative LP-2 might > be out by July? I'm going on tour this summer, and will be adding a > second looper to my rig. I've been holding out for an LP-2 since I got > to play with Rick's prototype. However, if it won't be out by then, > I'll have to get another DL-4. > > Thoughts? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 15:47:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3756B183473; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 by July? (What are chances?) References: <4D247F02.4040608@gmail.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-255110474"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <4D247F02.4040608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF617C9-D016-41FE-BA00-F60371F6E3A5@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:46:44 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thread-Topic: LP2 by July? (What are chances?) Thread-Index: Acus78c8TZ0kPPjGSCeBKFAKChcAqQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2011 15:47:09.0318 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFC58260:01CBACEF] Resent-Message-ID: <7EkKqB.A.smC.-JJJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:47:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-255110474 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow cool, wonder if you can sync an lp1 and an lp2? Cool way to have several= loopers in a band.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! > Bob Amstadt tweeted yesterday that 30 purple casings were on the way to > his house, and that he was going to be taking pre-orders very soon. >=20 > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com >=20 >=20 > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone know what the chances are that the Looperlative LP-2 might > > be out by July? I'm going on tour this summer, and will be adding a > > second looper to my rig. I've been holding out for an LP-2 since I got > > to play with Rick's prototype. However, if it won't be out by then, > > I'll have to get another DL-4. > > > > Thoughts? >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-255110474 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Wow cool, wonder if you can sync an lp1 and an lp2? Cool way to have several loopers in a band. 

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!

Bob Amstadt tweeted yesterday that 30 purple casings were on the way to
his house, and that he was going to be taking pre-orders very soon.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com


> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know what the chances are that the Looperlative LP-2 might
> be out by July? I'm going on tour this summer, and will be adding a
> second looper to my rig. I've been holding out for an LP-2 since I got
> to play with Rick's prototype. However, if it won't be out by then,
> I'll have to get another DL-4.
>
> Thoughts?

--Apple-Mail-1-255110474-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 15:54:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41C69183474; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PRvGEMCqXG/Q4IZ8Y599wK40RLjcgy+RmiJtfZu30t4=; b=YgptoJTij4sRtKiH43i2o7dmfPJ3mnlpbnR/K6TabDbIG0bVejX93hg3niNIShkRm5 zjgk7CjNEB/RfpzE7cYM2XYzyh+D4NCQ4YOW+TAtEgnMrNOiROA8X3lq8TH17c8AQEcF yIa3+pdHq9ZbB7NG2dD+JuIorXA9IjMXoxGSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ry70W8Kx6nN5zl8Ggugy3giEPIO4bqgysaIRyTJOjEasPYhjdpzYjeebJIAXxAUBTk 70+1was6dJg+QUaIIYP8nni9omr/V3pNA2qJiX0vyaCAd0MF8yci38lJ5Ysc68xPCDKu ysa9oEqsGK3coCKwo2EzGKrYPlIC2G+D80dWE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BF617C9-D016-41FE-BA00-F60371F6E3A5@1800dialword.com> References: <4D247F02.4040608@gmail.com> <4BF617C9-D016-41FE-BA00-F60371F6E3A5@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:54:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 by July? (What are chances?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:54:44 +0000 (UTC) I looked at The INterenet and found this: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=618154 Scroll down that page for a post listing LP2 spec's. Nothing in those spec's about sync. Would be cool to have two LP2 for Stick playing, one per output so you can instantly feed them different musical parts. But I guess sync would have been listed if available. Oh well... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Wow cool, wonder if you can sync an lp1 and an lp2? Cool way to have several > loopers in a band. > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > Bob Amstadt tweeted yesterday that 30 purple casings were on the way to > his house, and that he was going to be taking pre-orders very soon. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > > >> Hi all, >> >> Does anyone know what the chances are that the Looperlative LP-2 might >> be out by July? I'm going on tour this summer, and will be adding a >> second looper to my rig. I've been holding out for an LP-2 since I got >> to play with Rick's prototype. However, if it won't be out by then, >> I'll have to get another DL-4. >> >> Thoughts? > > From private_box@forum.dk Wed Jan 5 15:56:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5284 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at hemlock; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:56:47 UTC Received: from mailout.ofir.com (mailout.ofir.com [193.138.124.32]) by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CB0183458 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:56:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=forwardok (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=192.168.201.110; Received: from private_box@forum.dk (unverified [192.168.201.110]) by forum.dk (SurgeMail 5.0j) with ESMTP id 140760447-1855651 for multiple; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:25:47 +0100 From: "private box" To: Subject: Donation From Mrs Alice Toure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To-Not-Matched: true Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:25:47 +0100 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.201.110 Message-ID: <1294237547_229412@mailout.ofir.com> <=21DOCTYPE html PUBLIC =22-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1=2E0 Transitional//EN=22 =22= http://www=2Ew3=2Eorg/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional=2Edtd=22>Donation From Mrs Alice Toure
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Mrs Alice Toure From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 16:30:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF578183474; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hjAcSMlpQ2BAzdsuvefWuLNmYd++XiZLy5YABaATbSk=; b=cCrBiMWHDHEN8OQFQ3Fhb9ToPow1Ne4sYPyaAdB4WTSj4DpB+DW0mvGnCmx0+TkBcX odPnFkdVGxxq8IuzbVzdmjJzw7kLLIsAPZIIozYW3l/EgEW1GJjPSrnZcp3p7fw5G/hO IkHD9FPpSZTGsKUDTfiZ8mIU8x1OKMybFNIU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c0YUHEXsWMSmSShIwEOJ36vfzPZ/2T4V90GnGLn1pO49vAareiKBmmab3JIzXf1RY+ s5IR7tQkZfcjcZrDghsWz+rvSo9svglLiR/RlOkyAanabOc2NDwONp+RlYMcXIChsruY xDro6wppADj6Dxoxk7h59IP47ZTQz6SuHLRk0= Message-ID: <4D249CA4.6000607@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:30:28 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 by July? (What are chances?) References: <4D247F02.4040608@gmail.com> <4BF617C9-D016-41FE-BA00-F60371F6E3A5@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC) "It'll have MIDI sync in and out..." Though Bob should confirm. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > I looked at The INterenet and found this: > http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=618154 > > Scroll down that page for a post listing LP2 spec's. Nothing in those > spec's about sync. Would be cool to have two LP2 for Stick playing, > one per output so you can instantly feed them different musical parts. > But I guess sync would have been listed if available. Oh well... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 16:55:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75205183474; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 by July? (What are chances?) References: <4D247F02.4040608@gmail.com> <4BF617C9-D016-41FE-BA00-F60371F6E3A5@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:54:22 -0500 To: Thread-Topic: LP2 by July? (What are chances?) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thread-Index: Acus+TlXaq8RDzRTQZao9UYDBqljxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2011 16:55:03.0208 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BFFCA80:01CBACF9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Per=20 Couldnt you use pan and the stereo inputs and aux outputs and do same with L= P1? At one point I was setting LP1 up so had better output control to my so= undman, with a bit of juggling and the ayx A and B you can get four outs.=20= Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 5, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I looked at The INterenet and found this: > http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3D618154 >=20 > Scroll down that page for a post listing LP2 spec's. Nothing in those > spec's about sync. Would be cool to have two LP2 for Stick playing, > one per output so you can instantly feed them different musical parts. > But I guess sync would have been listed if available. Oh well... >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >> Wow cool, wonder if you can sync an lp1 and an lp2? Cool way to have seve= ral >> loopers in a band. >>=20 >> Andy Owens >> 1-800-AndyOwens >> Sent from my iPhone >> So the typing might not be my best! >>=20 >> Bob Amstadt tweeted yesterday that 30 purple casings were on the way to >> his house, and that he was going to be taking pre-orders very soon. >>=20 >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >>=20 >>=20 >>> Hi all, >>>=20 >>> Does anyone know what the chances are that the Looperlative LP-2 might >>> be out by July? I'm going on tour this summer, and will be adding a >>> second looper to my rig. I've been holding out for an LP-2 since I got >>> to play with Rick's prototype. However, if it won't be out by then, >>> I'll have to get another DL-4. >>>=20 >>> Thoughts? >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 17:12:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9B92183474; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7EdSoJlQkcaW4EVmA0OklmTZwEOTcyfSSsX/NED8Rms=; b=oY2kLSCdmYjLrzI5JSMzvZcdR5cy1zTmom1C59fzwuZc/+/Q4mcv2WNrisATlDeQbD 17sC5AGZO5ZpjrH4JCsxXovxELklrP69fYRYfdSCtUr8gOoNZv5XsEnzKO/RAk+Ccesy 5rUw5ekwLvsRU6+hwXnTSLxSAMPJ1gVsfmPyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LwlwRzQYXErTLRVRGScSJAa2CVmKQi4LYz2U3ky/KEVj+JH2LN0HuIUcWu8AeOymMD 1cjuEYFOHkLmxLFEZcdH1v2egOrcsAcm4gpt0Nv7y0Wo4zB7gNKW4MbxE/L8kQZtITng Plkcruw0Bl/LG4TbcvB2C1KOuKe0OeKgECNMk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D247F02.4040608@gmail.com> <4BF617C9-D016-41FE-BA00-F60371F6E3A5@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:12:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 by July? (What are chances?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:12:41 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Couldnt you use pan and the stereo inputs and aux outputs and do same wit= h LP1? > At one point I =C2=A0was setting LP1 up so had better output control to m= y soundman, > with a bit of juggling and the ayx A and B you can get four outs. Well, I would rather use two of the LP1's stereo inputs and feed them each instrument as a mono signal coming in through a stereo channel. But I see no point in getting a LP1 since Mobius on a laptop ticks better with my musical ambitions. However, two LP2's make sense because they are small. I would then need something like a Line 6 POD xt Live to treat the two mono looper outputs into two stereo textures to be summed. This rig would require the LP2 to offer a through path with wet/dry control. 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--000e0cd6a98a5af88f04991eb857-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 20:12:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20AF1183474; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z5pZjnPWp7LX5lXC2EugMVIrFZGQ1dnBVz4IDicGtns=; b=AO1ykFx9kmF35mZNzs2jmMLNmADxbGP5DzdOZlFDnQ6k7zA54eHD480jTY6TYNplt9 ETmSmWZpYzXnoZXzx3oQAYF8RB0LDxDlUVwKhnX4Dr+5TJQxo/QC2NswtGK1qjW3+QLq +sDq8sdBJpxwy+p7DGfSlP2jjz0Kt2LZGB6MY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pA0dMBc+2roA85nbtqi0a+AciuOZGTrkyE21HJKqUKc4+CAXK6gK5AbVXvhmWTMzOL gn56JBsBFq6ZpdnIvQYDsEYq54J0wtL3+ex3g6t9dX463/LF/DsnS71xcDVgVLGqs7Na tLEY2QrPg/EvCzc1dBUAKCzzkfqLeuX5Opt4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <578E0E54-E479-47CC-B496-CB5282D18D36@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:12:45 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:12:47 +0000 (UTC) I would think it does as that has been one of the biggest hurdles for me heading to software; the feeling that I need to define what I want to do before I begin has really stalled my progress. Usually I'm a plug in and go sort of player but all the options available in software make me feel less able to do that. That and configuring midi. But software is the future for me one way or another I think. Kevin On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I wonder if that has parallels with hardware/software users ? I work the > opposite way.=A0I have an idea of what I'd like to do and then try to get > things, (a computer) to do it.. > Of course, it's great to discover things serendipitously too... > > peace > > g > > ________________________________ > From: billwalker@baymoon.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board > Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:25:27 -0800 > > =A0Jeff The Duke sez: > =A0I don't use gear with an idea > of what I think it should do so much as see what it does and then > think how I can use that. > > Thanks for saying that Jeff , because that's also the way it is for me wi= th > gear. I explore a piece of gear and try to pull as much as I can out of w= hat > the designer came up with. If given the chance to talk to the designer I > might proffer a suggestion in person, but in much of the =A0corporate mus= ic > manufacturing world that isn't possible unless you have an inside > connection. I go to NAMM nearly every year and most of those designer guy= s > are more interested in chatting up rocker chicks. =A0I personally didn't = have > much input on the feature set for the LP-1. Frankly =A0That was all Bob w= ith a > lot off input from my brother Rick and Steve Lawson, and latter from a > consensus of user suggested options. =A0I think they built a pretty great > feature set, one that I'm still uncovering things on three years down the > line. =A0I didn't have any input on the =A0line 6 M-9 other than join a c= horus > of users with pedal board real estate issues in wishing there was a sligh= tly > more compact version of the M-13. =A0Both pieces of gear are continuing t= o > inspire me and offer up new possibilities. Last night =A0MR Inside was go= ing > way out side with the M-9's ring modulator and an expression pedal. Now I= 've > always loved ring modulators. I had an AH frequency analyzer for a number= of > years, but I could not see the point in hanging on to something I used > really sparingly. This is true for several different vintage effects that= I > would love to use on occasion , but not necessarily feel the need to own = as > individual pieces. Those include ones I used to have like the ada flanger= , > mxr phaser and flanger, echoplex =A0and space echo, or lusted after when = they > were new but I didn't own =A0like the tri stereo chorus and original =A0b= oss > chorus ensemble. =A0In addition as I've spouted numerous times before, ju= st on > its merit alone as a delay this thing has more options than most dedicate= d > floor delays. =A0A typical set of delay options for me might be a volume = swell > delay or reverse delay in to a sweep or analog delay in to a stereo delay > all set to compatible rhythmic values with a dedicated expression pedal t= o > morph them all slightly, and slaved to =A0incoming midi sync from my LP-1= . > From the bit I've checked out the timbenderit =A0is really cool and I wis= h > more delays allowed the ability to set an expression pedal =A0to control = the > input feeding the dealy for freeze style effects. That was one cool thing= I > liked about the original vox tone lap, that =A0you could assign an expres= sion > pedal in that way. > Bill > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 21:13:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5982A183474; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3609 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at hemlock; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:13:05 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101050096 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-05_10:2011-01-05,2011-01-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: John Metzler Subject: 10 years later and look what's happened Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:12:44 -0800 Message-id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi Loopers. My name is John M. I was an active member of this site in the late '90's through early 2000's until I sold everything in my looping set up to afford a move out of a dead end town. I have just rebuilt my rig and am playing again. Upon first glance it appears that not much has changed, the site even looks pretty much exactly the same. However, I realize that so much has changed. The most important and sadist change is the loss of Kim Flint. He was the most help to me back in those days of a decade ago. I actually emailed him 2 days ago not realizing that he has moved on from our world. I read his very cool story of the Porsche that his Dad owned, sold, re-bought, and then gave to him. Then I rejoined Loopers Delight and saw a listing for a memorial t-shirt and from there I figured out the sad news. Damn Kim, here's another soul that is missing you. I'm so sorry you had to leave so early. I am glad to notice that most of the Loopers Delight mailing list appears to still have an interest in hardware loopers. I was afraid that Ableton and laptops would have permanently and completely taken over. I'm looking for a little bit of help with some sync issues. I would also like to learn about some opinions of the Grodius foot controllers, both the FCB expander and the big little giant. I'm specifically wanting to find a gentleman by the name Andy Butler. Xavier over at Grodius told me he'd be the one to talk to. But I would also like to hear from other folks using a similar set up to mine. Here are the most relevant details.... MPC 1000 Echoplex Digital Pro + w/efc7 (#1 for guitar to it's own amp) Echoplex Digital Pro + w/efc7 (#2 for Bass to it's own amp) FCB1010 Alesis QSR AdrenaLinn II Novation SL37 ReMOTE Besides the Bass and Guitar with EDP's going to their own separate amps, all of the line level gear (MPC, QSR, AL2) are going into a small Mackie Mixer and a pair of powered monitors. I'll leave it at that for now. I could spend days combing through the mailing list archives, but I'm hoping for something closer to an actual human interaction with some other real people. I don't need to clog up the mailing list either, so if those who are interested in helping me would prefer to take our conversation outside the list, that would be fine. Thanks sknahT ---John M. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 21:23:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E62F218345B; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TMtgf4YbeXEDPeF/1vJPvIW0k6j7hPZEKnK+IRKKkSM=; b=nxSM7ntiUNceOmzfrQ+cC7Y3n2bs4twDK5Ba7edpUx0KWHgQR6zPL3k3IS5Zf1bL6W jMpkNgGPrJW/1Q3LG0vnJC/zk7e1UUVRSLqvFMBhFHsJdFavpqeaLYPQoqPZN0JEBLVG vSve6lpAgZdmKixW/enP55SEkIAfeDqWVs2G8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sMkGega3OYSNzMS9fwKHsva42CU9oejHEjbJMLLXVJNEjeOmitklHED+zVYC7avxZT ERXafuY1/DZhu7IGiu3sNlCFZJ2gP4sX+ujnpVY6994xSvLZGjHc5yRG/WDU1CnoXcFH 3w0VVgszFB3VyB6JJ64bchbl7jQXi1QW1rKpY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <578E0E54-E479-47CC-B496-CB5282D18D36@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:23:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:23:29 +0000 (UTC) >> Jeff The Duke sez: >> I don't use gear with an idea >> of what I think it should do so much as see what it does and then >> think how I can use that. What I said is true but I don't want to give the impression that there is no thought given to what I want gear to do. I read reviews and watch the vids, hang out at forums and such leading up to the purchase of new gear...well except when I am afflicted with bad GAS in the middle of the night and just go wow I gotta have one of those! So I usually have an idea of what said gear will do. I am not always happy with it and have returned quite a bit of gear that wouldn't do right for me. With the Time Bender the main reason givento me by people that didn't like it is that it won't sound or do things like (insert pds delay/Vortex), etc, etc. I was looking for something different so that may be why I wasn't disappointed. It makes a nice addition in my arsenal. Even if I don't use it all the time it remains a keeper for me. Jeff On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I would think it does as that has been one of the biggest hurdles for > me heading to software; the feeling that I need to define what I want > to do before I begin has really stalled my progress. =A0Usually I'm a > plug in and go sort of player but all the options available in > software make me feel less able to do that. =A0That and configuring > midi. > > But software is the future for me one way or another I think. > > Kevin > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Gareth Whittock > wrote: >> I wonder if that has parallels with hardware/software users ? I work the >> opposite way.=A0I have an idea of what I'd like to do and then try to ge= t >> things, (a computer) to do it.. >> Of course, it's great to discover things serendipitously too... >> >> peace >> >> g >> >> ________________________________ >> From: billwalker@baymoon.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: -discovering your gear that sits on your board >> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:25:27 -0800 >> >> =A0Jeff The Duke sez: >> =A0I don't use gear with an idea >> of what I think it should do so much as see what it does and then >> think how I can use that. >> >> Thanks for saying that Jeff , because that's also the way it is for me w= ith >> gear. I explore a piece of gear and try to pull as much as I can out of = what >> the designer came up with. >> Bill >> > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 23:36:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFA3F18345B; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ys8tJQ08Bh6N56zy65+Vapd6uABehaAdO/5eUzcR9Zo=; b=J6QT0j3j01L3Pc+in/LzIEWJ3gqeAQXHovO/FrOnL9B0ChV0n3JyaPP2hmdm6L9LLG 6s8HKoiEqWGdkkFWjwauxfauyHETLZRTdZJkqAFDpWEXL+JaVmJlijw2wfc7vka3zVZV puHIq4DGAEPmC3At/KRnlt74fMsJegDEReBZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QT5vLEL1CF2yJjvdnCSiAiMj+ZPWppBGaHvLpffuMWTwh8MCHbJXPZ1MLoybdSap2Q xM5vqklVQ2msbbXDuO2RwM8IjpY5cerrfL74W24/ZiEUNxEyiYN/WJc//H2RtSM5w181 CT1szXQCXuWjcUshRDiRLv5sHY22WssdFAtr0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 01:36:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 10 years later and look what's happened From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2030ea009049921dcbe Resent-Message-ID: <7Zf97B.A.VGB.VCQJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:36:53 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2030ea009049921dcbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Laptops and software didnt takeover, John. They're here and we're all here. Nice to have you back. :-) -Petri- 2011/1/5 John Metzler > Hi Loopers. > > My name is John M. I was an active member of this site in the late > '90's through early 2000's until I sold everything in my looping set up to > afford a move out of a dead end town. I have just rebuilt my rig and am > playing again. Upon first glance it appears that not much has changed, the > site even looks pretty much exactly the same. However, I realize that so > much has changed. The most important and sadist change is the loss of Kim > Flint. He was the most help to me back in those days of a decade ago. I > actually emailed him 2 days ago not realizing that he has moved on from our > world. I read his very cool story of the Porsche that his Dad owned, sold, > re-bought, and then gave to him. Then I rejoined Loopers Delight and saw a > listing for a memorial t-shirt and from there I figured out the sad news. > > Damn Kim, here's another soul that is missing you. I'm so sorry you > had to leave so early. > > I am glad to notice that most of the Loopers Delight mailing list > appears to still have an interest in hardware loopers. I was afraid that > Ableton and laptops would have permanently and completely taken over. > > I'm looking for a little bit of help with some sync issues. I would > also like to learn about some opinions of the Grodius foot controllers, both > the FCB expander and the big little giant. I'm specifically wanting to find > a gentleman by the name Andy Butler. Xavier over at Grodius told me he'd be > the one to talk to. But I would also like to hear from other folks using a > similar set up to mine. Here are the most relevant details.... > > MPC 1000 > Echoplex Digital Pro + w/efc7 (#1 for guitar to it's own amp) > Echoplex Digital Pro + w/efc7 (#2 for Bass to it's own amp) > FCB1010 > Alesis QSR > AdrenaLinn II > Novation SL37 ReMOTE > > Besides the Bass and Guitar with EDP's going to their own separate amps, > all of the line level gear (MPC, QSR, AL2) are going into a small Mackie > Mixer and a pair of powered monitors. > > I'll leave it at that for now. I could spend days combing through > the mailing list archives, but I'm hoping for something closer to an actual > human interaction with some other real people. I don't need to clog up the > mailing list either, so if those who are interested in helping me would > prefer to take our conversation outside the list, that would be fine. > > > Thanks sknahT > > ---John M. > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a2030ea009049921dcbe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laptops and software didnt takeover, John.
They're here and we'r= e all here.

Nice to have you back.

:-)

-Petri-

=
2011/1/5 John Metzler <jarofjam@me.com>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0H= i Loopers.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0My name is John M. =A0I was an active member of this site i= n the late '90's through early 2000's until I sold everything i= n my looping set up to afford a move out of a dead end town. =A0I have just= rebuilt my rig and am playing again. =A0Upon first glance it appears that = not much has changed, the site even looks pretty much exactly the same. =A0= However, I realize that so much has changed. =A0The most important and sadi= st change is the loss of Kim Flint. =A0He was the most help to me back in t= hose days of a decade ago. =A0I actually emailed him 2 days ago not realizi= ng that he has moved on from our world. =A0I read his very cool story of th= e Porsche that his Dad owned, sold, re-bought, and then gave to him. =A0The= n I rejoined Loopers Delight and saw a listing for a memorial t-shirt and f= rom there I figured out the sad news.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Damn Kim, here's another soul that is missing you. =A0I= 'm so sorry you had to leave so early.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I am glad to notice that most of the Loopers Delight mailin= g list appears to still have an interest in hardware loopers. =A0I was afra= id that Ableton and laptops would have permanently and completely taken ove= r.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I'm looking for a little bit of help with some sync iss= ues. =A0I would also like to learn about some opinions of the Grodius foot = controllers, both the FCB expander and the big little giant. =A0I'm spe= cifically wanting to find a gentleman by the name Andy Butler. =A0Xavier ov= er at Grodius told me he'd be the one to talk to. =A0But I would also l= ike to hear from other folks using a similar set up to mine. =A0Here are th= e most relevant details....

MPC 1000
Echoplex Digital Pro + w/efc7 (#1 for guitar to it's own amp)
Echoplex Digital Pro + w/efc7 (#2 for Bass to it's own amp)
FCB1010
Alesis QSR
AdrenaLinn II
Novation SL37 ReMOTE

Besides the Bass and Guitar with EDP's going to their own separate amps= , all of the line level gear (MPC, QSR, AL2) are going into a small Mackie = Mixer and a pair of powered monitors.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I'll leave it at that for now. =A0I could spend days co= mbing through the mailing list archives, but I'm hoping for something c= loser to an actual human interaction with some other real people. =A0I don&= #39;t need to clog up the mailing list either, so if those who are interest= ed in helping me would prefer to take our conversation outside the list, th= at would be fine.


Thanks sknahT

---John M.




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Petri Lahtinen
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--20cf3054a2030ea009049921dcbe-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 5 23:59:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBB66183474; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+YEmGswEy8A+BKUe1k7dTdNooHerdbPWEnm1dmZWcmM=; b=OKpMk8L+D6eJaXU0KR/MpMLDLM2TQk8HRg+igI+M6YPg9f7ykMgtWHtA3+o8TmD40X pXXeAXXzbckTk6GjVOQgAD/s7KYy2IP54iD51bd79kCQYVbEdaT5GmUnk6c7HD8X5Bop mWCFN4UEl8EpR0Rd+gGTCowlOMvMxouMgxTs0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=G3m2DN/QCReugdD7Z7byzVT+WczIA2dSVWR57C2JRSL5W4Avy1oUyDlgctJKs0bf0d sAyYbYC3F2hEGammqP2p24Hrk4j9A7CxAONj/I3UBomXx+QKrjLL4Us9O8bGetZpVgdg D0aagJjkkdZdmzvnn/5FdrvUtCOBDL0z3Gbbo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:59:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: more mobius scripting help please From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:59:53 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i'm trying to get four tracks to record at once. i've assigned four tracks > to a group, but i don't know what the script syntax is to select the group > and then get it to go into record I would guess such a script has to start with: for Group A <<"A" can be any other group as weell>> But why limiting it to using a script for that? In the MIDI Control window you can assign a MIDI event to Record with the scope Group A. That is explained here: http://www.circularlabs.com/doc/exploring.htm#trackGroup Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 00:06:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E808183473; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:references:from :content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=ZlGNVEPhMuREYk2uqcjDCm+97QwGL/qtqaGkIm7oqQ8=; b=U42qxB31E7RH1cU4axeiRIIiQzolWJMGmvPxF/LinaAwly9IaHeIDobk3vOTqPyN0y MEOwBISXHTudSLYZh4RJXprfoBn+vQUlUs3cTuUiOoGShPMejDbKl8GS5VQbdI39xlPY 6NE0ChL7SeWMGW3tzBTXJbZ4XZNCPqGQLEbQk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=BdlVFfv8zAFjmU++SuaOxmtW1z6sQ5FfSE5KiWjzlxtKeXi277FZe3D0LTh1XWkL1v nCyQlHti0K0bYVD7cz5VeYnY58obIm+n8A8Y9i56O5RREeM9JLv4W8eiwlZMEokGw407 bkcvz9REjqDqJWZlmzMy12XyoKFnCs/1pr48A= Subject: Re: more mobius scripting help please References: From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:04:19 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Yup, but I wanted to do something else with the button press as well. I foun= d a workaround using scope and a script to do the other stuff as well Sim Sent from my iPod On 5 Jan 2011, at 23:59, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> i'm trying to get four tracks to record at once. i've assigned four track= s >> to a group, but i don't know what the script syntax is to select the grou= p >> and then get it to go into record >=20 >=20 > I would guess such a script has to start with: >=20 > for Group A <<"A" can be any other group as weell>> >=20 > But why limiting it to using a script for that? In the MIDI Control > window you can assign a MIDI event to Record with the scope Group A. > That is explained here: > http://www.circularlabs.com/doc/exploring.htm#trackGroup >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 00:56:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1345B183473; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:56:29 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: more mobius scripting help please From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b83c0d57b35049922f8ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:56:32 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b83c0d57b35049922f8ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I would guess such a script has to start with: > > for Group A <<"A" can be any other group as weell>> Close, the group has to be identified by number. It's confusing but group 1 will be displayed in the UI as A, 2 as B, etc. So to start recording in all tracks in the first group 1/A do: for group 1 Record next Jeff --0016363b83c0d57b35049922f8ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
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--0022150490bf8b4165049923a238-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 02:15:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29C94183466; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 02:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:references:from :content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=UoSHF9hYIA/m2Ica9Zfcc4D9Zg9qZA9XCmAf4Vjjsxg=; b=xF0SE06k/ID0wksXthA4Fy+Dqlylqn5tu78PiXPCOI0lyHChDa0GuCg8FchnXwHMg5 Yb1QhofxW7OlMHDPrbinah1jQ4KnTWk/6Cc3PcfxgWSw1pIoaD0CNwV2dbqaeoHG2tzi oBAnJIS0ZVWoKZ5AIFCj6wiAl0IY0xtrtWwjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=R7V+lw+PXALItRplxRbBkJkqbAbqzjp6i9w5Ap5652gETHAiyL+6Nd76lN9qJshE+d 0+s+A5RFycS1WF8gDBQbfVG1GIYzyasS7SgPfAcfXRRUoU1rxrNsWrPZFcSx/UfIayF5 mmghhTivH1sD1oOqu4Be2g/8WYb91SUwNrRJ4= Subject: Re: more mobius scripting help please References: From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-292909056 X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <39D45048-AAA3-44FA-977F-F89B8012BE65@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 02:16:41 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: <0k9slB.A.cRF.nWSJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 02:15:03 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-292909056 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks jeff, I would have never figured that out by myself! Sim Sent from my iPod On 6 Jan 2011, at 00:56, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > I would guess such a script has to start with: > > > > for Group A <<"A" can be any other group as weell>> > > Close, the group has to be identified by number. It's confusing but > group 1 will be displayed in the UI as A, 2 as B, etc. So to start > recording in all tracks in the first group 1/A do: > > for group 1 > Record > next > > Jeff > --Apple-Mail-1-292909056 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Thanks jeff, I would have never figured that out by myself!

Sim

Sent from my iPod

On 6 Jan 2011, at 00:56, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:


> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would guess such a script has to start with:
> 
> for Group A  <<"A" can be any other group as weell>>

Close, the group has to be identified by number.  It's confusing but
group 1 will be displayed in the UI as A, 2 as B, etc.  So to start
recording in all tracks in the first group 1/A do:

   for group 1
      Record
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Jeff

--Apple-Mail-1-292909056-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 02:37:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4115183466; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 02:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ktKLByKCGwDrEN/g2MNAQWmG9GYSfDz0z/3IksvdxBw=; b=kQupJ9ZmGZ1h2VhD1VUqkffUUTegTwvmxqL8UPBFSa8wwGn9a/rJL0/84fYEHKEWrQ 5V2F0L1ZT/R/KAoCPydYbMx50X98EUoRT8oT0LZf58YkfCVqh/UxVev3k1InzQSSW7Y0 qvi7/ATzd/9bvC0kBhsnOzimq4mypBY1QjR3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=htpAZmAWa9jtNlvmcE66a98zM+DcxW3dws2D4+sk3guOnI19QrGT40AnPefPzjRC0h 4Xvy75uTZhWNysAinzPhrrkR7Xe7h3+KgV5azhb5QIqczZSkqBArf6MiBfRX88O0B8uJ gKqTqsAEGfBzEEE4lY7UFnJ+xIKBt5r7eCwQA= Message-ID: <4D252AF1.4090307@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:37:37 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 10 years later and look what's happened References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9nmVcB.A.kzF.wrSJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 02:37:36 +0000 (UTC) John Metzler schrieb: > I am glad to notice that most of the Loopers Delight mailing list appears to still have an interest in hardware loopers. I was afraid that Ableton and laptops would have permanently and completely taken over. > Hi John, no, computers haven't taken over all of our world. If any software, then Mobius (by Jeff Larson, member of this list) and Augustus Loop (by Andrew Ostler aka Os, member of this list). And the Andy Butler you mention is still aboard... Cool to have you back. I'm afraid I can't help you with any of your questions - but the critical mass is still there on LD. Yours, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From sgtpatrickhart@millitary.org Thu Jan 6 02:48:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 8633 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at hemlock; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 02:48:47 UTC Received: from nskntqsrv02p.mx.bigpond.com (nskntqsrv02p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.168.234]) by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF5318345A; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 02:48:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com ([64.168.240.49]) by nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20110106002432.HZDY24614.nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com>; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:24:32 +0000 Received: from User ([64.168.240.49]) by nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20110106002432.DOJO13584.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@User>; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:24:32 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Sgt Patrick Hart" Subject: Read This Now(Sgt Patrick Hart ) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:24:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com from [64.168.240.49] using ID brownbobandanne@bigpond.com at Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:23:09 +0000 Message-Id: <20110106002432.DOJO13584.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@User> X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150204.4D250BC0.00C8,ss=1,pt=113351,fgs=0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Good day, My name is Patrick Hart, I am an American soldier, I am serving in the military of the 1st Armored Division in Iraq, as you know we are being attacked by insurgents everyday and car bombs. We managed to move funds belonging to Saddam Hussein?s family. The total amount is US$25 Million dollars in cash, mostly 100 dollar bills. We want to move this money to you, so that you may invest it for us and keep our share for banking. You can go to this web link to read about events that took place there: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2988455.stm We will take 70%, my partner and I. You take the other 30%. No strings attached, just help us move it out of Iraq, Iraq is a war zone. We plan on using diplomatic courier and shipping the money out in one large silver box, using diplomatic immunity.If you are interested I will send you the full details, my job is to find a good partner that we can trust and that will assist us. Can I trust you? When you receive this letter, kindly send me an e-mail signifying your interest including your most confidential telephone/fax numbers for quick communication also your contact details. This business is risk free. The box can be shipped out in 48hrs. In God we trust. Respectfully, Sgt.Patrick Hart patrick.hart"blumail.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 05:12:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02AED183476; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 05:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D254F30.4040502@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:12:16 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: RIP Mick Karn References: <4426605.1294220186335.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <4426605.1294220186335.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 05:12:25 +0000 (UTC) From: William Walker > >Subject: OT: RIP Mick Karn > >I just heard the sad news about Mick Karn loosing his battle with > >cancer. What a truly unique and beautiful bassist he was. His > >fretlless bass playing was as orignal sounding as any I've ever heard, > >a very vocal sound, melodic yet grounded and earthy and funky. > >listen to Polytown with Torn and Bozzio or Tin Drum by Japan to hear > >what I mean > > A great one has joine the great band beyond Oh, that is the saddest of news. I've always loved Mick's playing since I first heard Tin Drum by Japan back in the day. That record was so far ahead of it's time and Mick's incredibly unique voice was a large part of it. It's hard to have a unique voice on an instruments played by hundreds of thousands of musicians around the planet but Mick had just that. He was the single reason (and not Jaco, though I loved his playing, too) that inspired me to start playing fretless bass myself (though my attempts at what he did are a pale imitation at best). He also had the amazing quality of standing out completely and yet always been tasty and never overplaying. That's really hard to do as a bassist I think. Also, I'm very sad because I know that he had approached you, Bill, about touring with him before his ill health nipped that in the bud. It makes me so sad that I won't get a chance to hear how the two of you would have sounded because I can hear it in my head as if it were happening and it's amazing as I imagine it. I'm sorry for your loss, too. Long live Mick Karn and his creative spirit. rick walker From t059@mail.cmps.hc.edu.tw Thu Jan 6 05:38:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from ssl.cmps.hc.edu.tw (ssl.cmps.hc.edu.tw [163.19.119.3]) by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7793A18345B for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 05:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ssl.cmps.hc.edu.tw (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ssl.cmps.hc.edu.tw (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.9) with ESMTP id p05B5eRk027185 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:05:40 +0800 Received: from t059@mail.cmps.hc.edu.tw (cmps.hc.edu.tw [163.19.119.2]) by SpamSherlock-MailFilter 3.0 on ssl.cmps.hc.edu.tw; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:05:40 CST Received: from mail.cmps.hc.edu.tw (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by cmps.hc.edu.tw (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.9) with ESMTP id p04NGlHq000647; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:16:47 +0800 From: "t059" To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Reply-To: peugeotclaimsdesk@hotmail.com Subject: Unclaimed Winnings: Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:16:47 +0800 Message-Id: <20110104231949.M99069@mail.cmps.hc.edu.tw> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.01 20030530 X-OriginatingIP: 69.22.186.17 (t059) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cmps.hc.edu.tw id p04NGlHq000647 X-Envelope-From: X-License: 1 X-SpamCheck: skip check outbound mail PEUGEOT AUTOMOBILE PROMO P O BOX 1010 LIVERPOOL, L70 1NL UNITED KINGDOM Unclaimed Winnings: In regards to the above subject, I, Barrister Barry White, Claims Supervi= sor for the United Kingdom Lottery Board (UKLB) wish to notify you through this e-mail that your case file has been re-opened. 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=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A --0-736989486-1294304005=:88587-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 11:31:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30497183476; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0cwZcK7qesmMdNUCpi722CGEQekRb7FggDi+MmMZSR8=; b=r/1oKsjEq7Y9D8elFgBcMM9iBy+mkojMbxewPZkMU3fNt+IapdbmIlOXsylbCqzvYS ZSZvj/QQCm0fnfRvAhYfId/TVA5dboPGFshdTMq5B1kUSEhPxqxA2enOYSWu26tokJN6 B8bW9vjFUrzJtZ4zo1wM8CBkacd3yWO9GHHYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Wg0y5+Z4gSZ2tP//S0rJITWQyC8WCAZv06fQohA11jWiBckyvOwui5FJH72/WQup4V on2G/OcPRQeLsM5mKeSZcH/wY38gNDkRrkse+xtfbysCme8b3HbsynlSXt4f6llROmVB VjkNFH3j/iv8MPCYVhjgvMgNs4Al2AKYC3IOk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:31:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Recording many parallel loops in one go (Re: more mobius scripting help please) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <4DTKpD.A.f-C.jgaJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:31:47 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i'm trying to get four tracks to record at once. Glad you got help by Jeff to make the Group script work technically, I wouldn't have imagined that "A" should be written "1" in the scripting language, LOL! Would you mind discussing your plan with this experiment? Are you going to record the same instrument performance as four clones? Or do you have four audio sources going to feed Mobius? If recording one performance, do you intend to Rate/Speed shift the four identical loops? Or do you intend to change the length of some destructively? (Multiply - Record) Over here I came to gravitate towards a similar concept - but not by recording four parallel loops at once but by recording four parallel loops on a row. I hit the record button and start playing and when I hit the button the second time a new loop is created on track two and I fill it up for one cycle before recording moves to target a third loop on track three and finally a fourth parallel loop on track four. Normally I play the same thing four times to fill up the loops and I like the the subtle organic feel the resulting texture picks from the fact that it is hardly possible to play exactly the same more than once. But then my special "Record-Four-Tracks -In-One-Swoop" button also Rate Shifts three of the loops so they will play at different length and octave or fifth transformed. This is just how my experiment happened to formalize and I would love to hear about others that explore similar stuff! 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--0-960738530-1294313823=:52143-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 11:48:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01DA7183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:48:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Om5ncbhw2ImVBKcz/A2ZeEqaBzOlVZUO1lHmN/UVNJk=; b=cht27EjVvx9+7THgoc5OCUpFaE/BY/G1l5Tv1wKf73BVBTdy1TmPE0/eKgm3b8ZjJl RRDo47zg6TLUQg/DO3eW6AABUZgzUqH256yV1XFXn3HBTe0yLjHrQB5hNTw17TLX7oZU IpWnULB5E5P0L9/hCpwV80njLtABmYnOXCAPk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=W2OxVi6ZP+0x/bL6bFpY0/Kae13nX2Y2+zzU18UffXKM7OtFZZ6qa3to1CC/B+25SS om4WZezY1Z1Fy/ysc+OvojI9UETLiJpZTrhe6sdXWOExpdi85U6K7x825lqVUXJI2CAc cr7iRlqYa/4b4UVvKCgGOYwgT1qM6A/jwFBJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:48:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e2beef4a8e204992c1281 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:48:04 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e2beef4a8e204992c1281 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi gang, I just got a digital piano this x-mas and i m looking for a good way to learn to read the notes,chords etc. to start playing easy pieces. Ive considered taking a few lessons but i rather not start there blind and try to learn the basics on my own. Is there a good method or program outhere you can recomend where you can also visually see the notes being played on the keyboard that also include nice pieces to start off with? thanx for your tips! cheers Luis --0016368e2beef4a8e204992c1281 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gang,
I just got a digital piano this x-mas and i m looking for a goo= d way to learn to read the notes,chords etc. to start playing easy pieces.<= br>Ive considered taking a few lessons but i rather not start there blind a= nd try to learn the basics on my own.
Is there a good method or program outhere you can recomend where you can al= so visually see the notes being played on the keyboard that also include ni= ce pieces to start off with?
thanx for your tips!
cheers
Luis
--0016368e2beef4a8e204992c1281-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 12:14:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23065183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=dkOF8DC0XHWBKzeDaF5Z6wVk+wzATlEJrnMIJY651Ls=; b=rzoDcBcUR82RL566ZEDzgwCP8ooNAbOzngmn6cSNfmybdaao2IRh/4lhvgXCSKcqsD 9LelaZcc+qkorITfgddKE4uBu8GsYJFpI17SsfbHse2nMrqcYQzEY5FjTUwHZO8g/alh UWhwYaa4DhLb+mxVGAqdOneNYauchy6A1gWg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=HfHzGGu2qkP4TVnsJVH5jUKPpwybluUy64ej6sWLPaV8sOfLhv3OMQMtZK5fCadNJW ILCAtVy9EbCpASmbj8PIiTcAdkFBQVBzI0REqbiPypCx+26h8RCKHvfw1OdU+R6PCA7F 0FzXVhUYwdpdWwmbJGtmbQmYmV3S2Pr4f8QMw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:14:21 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: j2Y1KYYhuulRuFQf2oPqPnwW9lE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a6744da1004992c72f4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:14:42 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a6744da1004992c72f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > I just got a digital piano this x-mas and i m looking for a good way to > learn to read the notes,chords etc. to start playing easy pieces. > Im sure you will get lots of help with this, I too want to improve my keyboard skills, and want to learn to read... But... heres a trick that no-one told me. Take both hands and without looking, play 3 notes with each hand, reach a good distance apart and make the middle finger play a black note, and thumb and pinky white notes... Listen to the resulting chord, do NOT wince at its discordance, its NOT THAT BAD... adust a finger on either end, up or down a note, find the clashing notes, move them about a bit-.. pretend you know what you are doing, look confident, leave long gaps... to tap the cigarette ash into the ashtray precariously placed on the top few keys... Play a new chord, at least 5 notes away from the original... Welcome, you are now a pretty advanced keyboard player... -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549a6744da1004992c72f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>= wrote:
Hi gang,
I just got a digital piano this x-mas and i m looking for a goo= d way to learn to read the notes,chords etc. to start playing easy pieces.<= br>

Im sure you will get lots of help with this, I too= want to improve my keyboard skills, and want to learn to read...
But... heres a trick that no-one told me.
=A0
Take both hands and wit= hout looking, play 3 notes with each hand, reach a good distance apart and = make the middle finger play a black note, and thumb and pinky white notes..= .

Listen to the resulting chord, do NOT wince at its discordance, its NOT= THAT BAD... adust a finger on either end, up or down a note, find the clas= hing notes, move them about a bit-.. pretend you know what you are doing, l= ook confident, leave long gaps... to tap the cigarette ash into the ashtray= precariously placed on the top few keys...

Play a new chord, at least 5 notes away from the original...

Wel= come, you are now a pretty advanced keyboard player...




<= /div>
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mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @ma= rkfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/use= r825094
http://www.looop.no
--20cf30549a6744da1004992c72f4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 12:20:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F12B183477; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=42BipQhGZudAIxu1WnOc2pJyNxHEkpH32J4+n57+oMA=; b=J7W6bDaaK+i+wpNoW1pgenJMdlc2eziBSjhx76/mcic2Uk/SP7AVVLzdP2M894YIuL 2AzZvs/U6vCYlagLxq4Be9x59hZ7CUhmrR8e4nu6wBcmrB57UESBDiMB397G7VUNrPVp ssIlnk88j+Zynr56cGLAAwUNQKrUzhZ7jjHxk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Izp2zN8XiRzOas7rcBWDv2Zigx0iKz0mGki2ganbghl1757Tn25mnLTSgF7MLsWR5g orrEFsFG5MOAoZBpYQTH7RYHFAMZtkMC9K/H/fnHoEp/hZmFKxml4V1owAGP2a9UYmIt xxIHwQtwS+ojZKbeuKB0JwsJp0/7dcdzHVS9M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:20:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:20:50 +0000 (UTC) My totally un-educated advice is to Stick With C for reading! At least initially. Reading a score is simple in the key of C because then each note is played at the pitch it is written as. Other keys use b or cross marks to imply that a note written as a certain pitch has to be transposed when played. Chords are the same on piano as on any instrument. You already play guitar so you should know that for example a C major chord contain the three notes C, G, E. etc, etc... A cool thing with piano is to learn using the sustain pedal. Do some jamming with arpeggio chord stuff and learn to use your foot to press and release as an automatic process for un-muting and muting the piano strings. This is super cool - really like a new dimension for jamming! I try to imitate it for my Chapman Stick by using a sustain pedal that controls "audio freeze" in a reverb effect - but that's not quite the same as the piano pedal that really works the string's physical mute pads. There's a nice mobile phone app (iOS and Android) called iReal Book that contains a collection of hundreds of chord charts of jazz standards, jazz classics, latin, brazilian, pop classics and more. Not offering dedicated piano scores though, just chord charts. http://irealbook.net/ There are some tricks on how to move hands ergonomically on the piano and a piano teacher can tell you about that in just one lesson. I think that's a good starting point, rather than "by mistake" teaching your hands to move in a manner that doesn't work for you if you get to play fast and demanding pieces in the future. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > I just got a digital piano this x-mas and i m looking for a good way to > learn to read the notes,chords etc. to start playing easy pieces. > Ive considered taking a few lessons but i rather not start there blind and > try to learn the basics on my own. > Is there a good method or program outhere you can recomend where you can > also visually see the notes being played on the keyboard that also include > nice pieces to start off with? > thanx for your tips! > cheers > Luis > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 12:50:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D9F7183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=zPD29gCKRmdbkOXzSU4WBiIzdO+7+q1sWVZTbzHtdkc=; b=Yh8q8QMjQ5zJhdNRRKccqOUk+nuIti53Vji9myCjfu+sXmBbO4Ucczbfw2FUeZZ5zB 4ZJOz41SDHI6HGryYiF/B0kQ+tjHn/6tRGiso+0hSluTYWVY8u8kKS9yv0wZE0nir46r wjQVEF8rRNHeKPkGz9eATvSGahRlKf7NPngVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=sbjttxH00qSPaHmh8U+r7eFf7w70TecA9be9BN9zXc3ghHA7I9i6hWkgoo42kE4VBQ a/uC1jrNrQM8bWkiWABEXikdjlVWwrDnU4SntF2rIAuOUlpU9Re6Ac6R2CJxUChwaVOm NeMytatBukF6iTU/yswoSiHnTGmRR1+mILBGY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:50:22 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7nB0eQMe8_pRZIIAKcTVsFStchg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e89b01a72c504992cf306 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:50:44 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e89b01a72c504992cf306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > My totally un-educated advice is to Stick With C for reading! At least > initially. Reading a score is simple in the key of C because then each > note is played at the pitch it is written as. Other keys use b or > cross marks to imply that a note written as a certain pitch has to be > transposed when played. > This is a bit unclear Per. I think what you are trying to say is that, while written music doe NOT require that you "transpose when played", it does ask that you remember which notes are play as Sharps or Flats (b's or #'s). The first bit of notation on any stave of music is the treble (looks like a f) or bass (looks like a C) clef. This tells is it played above or below middle C and WHICH NOTES are played. the next is the time sig.. no prob there usually drawn one note above the other.. and THEN... there is a signifyer of WHICH sharps and flats should be played throughout... this is basically saying what key the piece is in. Markl -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e89b01a72c504992cf306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
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My totally un-educated advice is to Stick With C for readi= ng! At least
initially. Reading a score is simple in the key of C because then each
note is played at the pitch it is written as. Other keys use b or
cross marks to imply that a note written as a certain pitch has to be
transposed when played.

This is a bit unclear Pe= r. I think what you are trying to say is that, while written music doe NOT = require that you "transpose when played", it does ask that you re= member which notes are play as Sharps or Flats (b's or #'s). The fi= rst bit of notation on any stave of music is the treble (looks like a f) or= bass (looks like a C) clef. This tells is it played above or below middle = C and WHICH NOTES are played.
the next is the time sig.. no prob there usually drawn one note above the o= ther.. and THEN... there is a signifyer of WHICH sharps and flats should be= played throughout... this is basically saying what key the piece is in.

Markl



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twitter @ma= rkfrancombe
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--90e6ba6e89b01a72c504992cf306-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 13:00:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18021183477; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294318823; bh=25OBr7FrP5UMKkwcJiK3/TFAwS2clZ2b/2aDr667piU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0N4QInhxGsfajTzqGPqqPlZAEiQXBBYv1XeV1T/Qj+5iFwQQEmczNlWKlf3oubKw8M+n7d+YMghOphClvPUs/3gciEu+OkxD4RrLZwGoLojOeM6+df09HqRjyBG/ZmDQlqPSW2hljV725+2SNQ931YgCYCxFyYiinBXqk5jHkKo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4J8m01Vjmpg4qpspFMNTK8XnjdjRn5rY5TDUefZef8zJa9PfNw2Lk135Jlap/N5ikELol5mBC3JIkvkJ1ZwHgL/BM8sG5Cdp/XPUAj0mrYvPcRn2e/Fvkz48/B/gpaF493BqbwH3nB81RQZwnsmWCNRto2xUtr6IsCP6UtoGzg4=; Message-ID: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: W20lESUVM1kr1aoz1RWf_6P1m78XcYwhvJ2bnDOTDnqEOPR Uf_52Y4GL8KndLZXVrvtILQ8NdFqFzBc4KgZh.zPsSxJQPkvpluVdgTiDZq8 Nfv8Jl8QKqtjuwM.fnORRCB_R6jqIU_ywkBZAkatD3XNI0O379A.YiD9H1b9 xWlZyomDiHJyRUii_dFQymEm7pS3GRjsUmwGpDuA2ehfELPS084eL0LBycGq 9H1wwDQrI04VT2AxNZ9au8hN79q8JAxiLu6vEowISco8r6554qbHX8YQdC_A prLXUu6v4_CwoSmLDvzlx X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 05:00:23 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1970494919-1294318823=:81498" Resent-Message-ID: <7McPFD.A._SF.pzbJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:00:25 +0000 (UTC) --0-1970494919-1294318823=:81498 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii what I found most useful is developping a tactil feel for the piano, had a great jazz teacher who had me playing triads and seventh chords chromatically or in circle of fifths, spelling put the shapes in my mind visually C major triad white white white c# major triad black white black one hand at a time both hands together spreading seventh chords between two hands adding extensions what is important is having the feel of the shape in your hand and a mental image of the chord C# Maj BWB Also very useful for Jazz type reading chord plus melody... You will notice there are a lot of great blind jazz and blues pianists. It is a percussive and touch instrument, don't forget it... Antony ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 1:50:22 PM Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: My totally un-educated advice is to Stick With C for reading! At least >initially. Reading a score is simple in the key of C because then each >note is played at the pitch it is written as. Other keys use b or >cross marks to imply that a note written as a certain pitch has to be >transposed when played. This is a bit unclear Per. I think what you are trying to say is that, while written music doe NOT require that you "transpose when played", it does ask that you remember which notes are play as Sharps or Flats (b's or #'s). The first bit of notation on any stave of music is the treble (looks like a f) or bass (looks like a C) clef. This tells is it played above or below middle C and WHICH NOTES are played. the next is the time sig.. no prob there usually drawn one note above the other.. and THEN... there is a signifyer of WHICH sharps and flats should be played throughout... this is basically saying what key the piece is in. Markl -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --0-1970494919-1294318823=:81498 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
what I found most useful is developping a tactil feel for the piano, had a great jazz teacher who had me playing triads and seventh chords chromatically or in circle of fifths, spelling put the shapes in my mind visually

C major triad white white white
c# major triad black white black

one hand at a time
both hands together

spreading seventh chords between two hands
adding extensions

what is important is having the feel of the shape in your hand and a mental image of the chord C# Maj BWB

Also very useful for Jazz type reading chord plus melody...

You will notice there are a lot of great blind jazz  and blues pianists. It is a percussive and touch instrument, don't forget it...

Antony

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 1:50:22 PM
Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.)

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
My totally un-educated advice is to Stick With C for reading! At least
initially. Reading a score is simple in the key of C because then each
note is played at the pitch it is written as. Other keys use b or
cross marks to imply that a note written as a certain pitch has to be
transposed when played.

This is a bit unclear Per. I think what you are trying to say is that, while written music doe NOT require that you "transpose when played", it does ask that you remember which notes are play as Sharps or Flats (b's or #'s). The first bit of notation on any stave of music is the treble (looks like a f) or bass (looks like a C) clef. This tells is it played above or below middle C and WHICH NOTES are played.
the next is the time sig.. no prob there usually drawn one note above the other.. and THEN... there is a signifyer of WHICH sharps and flats should be played throughout... this is basically saying what key the piece is in.


Markl



--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no

--0-1970494919-1294318823=:81498-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 13:03:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4475518347B; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kMeS7TAnwkdMeS6C7/nUPMOXajewogzX3wxUQb7t8fc=; b=e+wkZbGOoIkn1HkiCU6RS6EpQ1OaF7ZlytTCjLzjQJlCo/qKo0Wkez8N2cVoi67Lr/ /zOz+JeF9CVVvMrCqeBM75HV2pvSNnSDAmhXa6PCCfkUbRRfue2k7+OCaArdJ5iOcIaz WFZ6A4Fz0uNrF2DDsrKqXGMWBCDpY+sOw50SY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Lw4YrMT+Cjt3DvYHJMfrWLxy6DSAhkgYVq1grVuNydggoDasvObmkxI3SsiIKm4J7C 8Ir5cN3WUHgJu1ANeD/MZpCDjjjftehN5jDr9C/hodCgDm2QI64qmE6WDNtd3q/zYWuL pwJJaOHHWDJtI9MvtsuyyXAvzLuL0Pksu2zYE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:03:44 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recording many parallel loops in one go (Re: more mobius scripting help please) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f2b5df0904992d2172 Resent-Message-ID: <8rpiIB.A.lbF.y2bJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:03:46 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f2b5df0904992d2172 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well it was seeing your pedalboard layout and the "Record-Four-Tracks -In-One-Swoop" button that got me thinking. so as an experiment, i've set up a button that records 4 tracks simultaneously and pans them around the stereo field. i gently swell one note onto all four tracks and then i have 8 buttons set up that run scripts to rate shift all four tracks to create chords. you may be wondering why someone who plays a chordal instrument might want to do this, but it means i can set up "infinite" pads that last as long as i like...until i hit a button and change the chord to something else. sounds nice with some filtered delays to add some motion and smooth out the transition between chords. it's also interesting to use different sounds - a distorted guitar sound is nice, because the resulting chord is not itself distorted - rather like using a sampler. the chords i have set up at the moment are all in the same key, but it might be fun to tweak the rate shifts a bit and get some more unusual sounds.... sim On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > i'm trying to get four tracks to record at once. > > > This is just how my experiment > happened to formalize and I would love to hear about others that > explore similar stuff! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --000e0cd404f2b5df0904992d2172 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well it was seeing your pedalboard layout and the "Record-Four-Tracks = -In-One-Swoop" button that got me thinking. so as an experiment, i'= ;ve set up a button that records 4 tracks simultaneously and pans them arou= nd the stereo field. i gently swell one note onto all four tracks and then = i have 8 buttons set up that run scripts to rate shift all four tracks to c= reate chords. you may be wondering why someone who plays a chordal instrume= nt might want to do this, but it means i can set up "infinite" pa= ds that last as long as i like...until i hit a button and change the chord = to something else. sounds nice with some filtered delays to add some motion= and smooth out the transition between chords. it's also interesting to= use different sounds - a distorted guitar sound is nice, because the resul= ting chord is not itself distorted - rather like using a sampler.
the chords i have set up at the moment are all in the same key, but it migh= t be fun to tweak the rate shifts a bit and get some more unusual sounds...= .

sim


On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1= 1:31 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 20= 11 at 8:52 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> i'm trying to get four tracks to record at once.


This is just how my experiment
happened to formalize and I would love to hear about others that
explore similar stuff!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--000e0cd404f2b5df0904992d2172-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 13:27:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 453F9183474; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TE8wo+JeXaCWR37mSnels9bcgr8+UXJlI3Gq4l3QUPI=; b=BbT0+r8DiVjbxnMc7eqQcea43swf9I4vNL7npL9ucvk0tag7rsqXaqcpFZFFPhFm43 YiBxUGxCd/EZdg2CsOxJ/2uEGztmiDPRS1w3Zb2+w/dT3aKk7n0EpGJd/tny7S6Olp4B OV3KicZJ16oUWE9bIyNDBAylQFCFU1yZXrzyw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B63YpSRcY/VJDeHkqFRKCcwwzaFzutahsEqn6nQb8L/A3zZk84IdRBon6rIc+DOnB+ kWdqmJApy+bG8movNFsxWiDyoD+vHtecGQfdEoVHzPmAiXghz5LAoea0ljPh71rOGrQ8 EjpihanMNFDz3TWHNDaMdb0Z9hex4VUUZPimQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 08:27:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Marc wonderful approach above to the piano. Ironically while walking my daughter to school this morn I was just relaying piano technique and its uniqueness to be a wonderful foundation for music. Its all there in front of you with its polyphony. I studied formerly in my college years and just improvise these days. Not much to share here that in a serious way Luis echoing Marc, just sit down and explore. Its like a. Friend said to me once re a conversation on 12-string guitar technique. In my response to how to approach 12-string,.don't think about it'. Jim On 1/6/11, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > what I found most useful is developping a tactil feel for the piano, had = a > great > jazz teacher who had me playing triads and seventh chords chromatically o= r > in > circle of fifths, spelling put the shapes in my mind visually > > C major triad white white white > c# major triad black white black > > one hand at a time > both hands together > > spreading seventh chords between two hands > adding extensions > > what is important is having the feel of the shape in your hand and a ment= al > image of the chord C# Maj BWB > > Also very useful for Jazz type reading chord plus melody... > > You will notice there are a lot of great blind jazz and blues pianists. = It > is a > percussive and touch instrument, don't forget it... > > Antony > > > > ________________________________ > From: mark francombe > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 1:50:22 PM > Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > My totally un-educated advice is to Stick With C for reading! At least >>initially. Reading a score is simple in the key of C because then each >>note is played at the pitch it is written as. Other keys use b or >>cross marks to imply that a note written as a certain pitch has to be >>transposed when played. > > This is a bit unclear Per. I think what you are trying to say is that, wh= ile > written music doe NOT require that you "transpose when played", it does a= sk > that > you remember which notes are play as Sharps or Flats (b's or #'s). The fi= rst > bit > of notation on any stave of music is the treble (looks like a f) or bass > (looks > like a C) clef. This tells is it played above or below middle C and WHICH > NOTES > are played. > > the next is the time sig.. no prob there usually drawn one note above the > other.. and THEN... there is a signifyer of WHICH sharps and flats should= be > played throughout... this is basically saying what key the piece is in. > > > Markl > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > > > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 13:47:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9086183461; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JEValPLfTB537gbrq/AmPawkLHYqt1gdQ0afLYziLMc=; b=pQPrtt6Ok2/qbssUfzJoh2LQnXYu7TQyGqjn/EQBFMgxEgBOyz1fur0lVhhd40DWwl aOwEA+RKbzmj4Jmd4J4uRoMtig4ju9e7Zj68R1oYFg2PEtgtkD4aY67eWO05uxQX/kPF n0aST7dsUOx7WKgjWHZfaYeG6fttkNt4JTQrc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cccKVxSD/J6UKzx2Kcobc5PMni0RrUewiqiLOFG3pC0cIoWEMr6XuaQEPHFkqS+Ui4 IwUYwUBZQK4STyw8vt9cgaHT/P6rSplHLtU3bKXN+YzKeJZNcm88kItM3Lwyo/RNYsHy hEWk1UXOX/9zIf13mIcaRdiqq9/OM19zaOm54= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:47:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recording many parallel loops in one go (Re: more mobius scripting help please) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:47:49 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > the chords i have set up at the moment are all in the same key, but it mi= ght > be fun to tweak the rate shifts a bit and get some more unusual sounds...= . Interesting, Sim! Would love to hear what it sounds like. I use a pedalboard bank to speed shift all four loops into octave and fifth chords according to a nine step scale. For some chord in the scale one loop may be shifted -5 instead of +7 for the reason of better sound (generally pitching down sounds better in ensemble than pitching up). At chords where a particular loop is pitched up my script also brings down the output level of that loop to have it not jump out of the mix and sound bad. Just like you I find it great fun to test different source sounds. With guitar or Stick I may record chords but if I'm finding it a hard challenge to use thirds, because when speed transformed a fifth they may induce chord coloring I don't like. I'm more for the minimal concept of sequencing sparse and leave room for melody parts to imply minor or major chord coloring. This stuff can easily get too big for you to handle. BTW, I set up my Record Pedal script as a long press script that will reset the selected track (deleting this track's loops) on a long press. Then I use the statement "if" to make the script start out with a "global reset" before going Recored etc and this happens "if selected track is in reset mode". I'm finding this very helpful when peforming as a way to "get out" of the for parallel loops situation and start over a new four-loops texture. What I do then is a long press on the Record button followed by a short press to start over. It would be really cool some time to have a Mobius clinic! Sit down for a couple of hours and show each other what we use different scripts for. I remember in Z=C3=BCrich we had such a gathering the day after the Looping Festival in 2005. It was especially interesting to hear vocalist Michael Schiefel explain how he runs two un-synced EDP's and a harmonizer controlled by MIDI Sysex from a mini synth keyboard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEI111PUVStk Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 13:58:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56B6A183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KCbRpROWSp7MlP2Oq+Xo2J9Z7KKbH9KqBk5vXhdWGBQ=; b=S6+fQbi3V8CegimQjDtPsBm2S8Mx1QLkOIijrK7bXI9CAe4Jf9dLo+25KrCUSn0RcM iSMOCeNBzqkc3XXdF2MiFTxfVRCZYRDTqE9v530NZqsz+1O8ceWjSKrJyOQZdRjZLRSo UY4nemSTktkRtCCwAogrqAl1LOzDHrZt3ynac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jEt0VHrX4gu8kjPKq1qRjiB1JALXBclGQwUA9t6p3hVhKjFs7FKuPWfnN0Oo64PsBc hiErZmvUqDLH1ApHRYrOPPkccYaHy5kIGHC//ix9Xsm+LrZWH8wQvCTIPlRSl9R+UPCD K9rKD6Tgo4Sz1hcjQlzAu9BkvJQnBn86joCBU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:58:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:58:29 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > piano technique > and its uniqueness to be a wonderful foundation for music. =C2=A0Its all > there in front of you with its polyphony. Indeed! Even singers, wind players, guitarists or whatever should visualize music like the universal code it really is! Not necessarily thinking about "piano keys", but you should care to know all notes and their relation with scales and chords just as the ground you are leaping from. In this regard the piano comes with a "built-in shortlist" ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 14:23:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36DF7183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BqST5rkaAmWz3QNlMFbFN8j1JapKUlnZt5ofWE8E5bQ=; b=w0z5nv4AOseIbo5sv2iU50ksA/deKRoQTLwKjeXtkB1jYTX81Ry8YYNnIPZuBmimMG 8Xkpq78whmXUhPwI79Dfz9zinhfL+EbP846Ug7M+FzsXjHuKqbVo1tdv+XUvpHqzQeZo 93Pzd7s5b0uSdTv8JhaPa92Jz9VtcgTQV8v1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WymJc/nQM6/mlse0zf/Fbpu2jRXOjjOF960blOUHz/fcw0Lj1DgtuVmR7GFdpJRkgD JaN7dzyIed/6hsP4ZOZ9/gFPnNtR8mnlcqbx6Ix60FSV66dHuckM5aRBmlA7Jpd38oHQ DOczQ/Subb9rptsGL9jysEgOC9+qaLEzC+xXg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:23:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30433e3a2f7d9c04992e3df2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:23:02 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30433e3a2f7d9c04992e3df2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well said Per. Conceptually the 'world' has a sound in mind of 'what music is' that most of us on LD don't adhere to so it makes total sense to just approach whatever instrument as if a wide open canvas, as you say as 'the ground you are leaping on'. The trick is to get the average bear coming to an instrument to relate that way. I don't teach but have dabbled with in the past and I've often thought about how to 'break the mold' of traditiona= l instruction in our societies. Luis, 'toss the rules and just do it' as the kids say. Jim On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jim Goodin > wrote: > > piano technique > > and its uniqueness to be a wonderful foundation for music. Its all > > there in front of you with its polyphony. > > > Indeed! Even singers, wind players, guitarists or whatever should > visualize music like the universal code it really is! Not necessarily > thinking about "piano keys", but you should care to know all notes and > their relation with scales and chords just as the ground you are > leaping from. In this regard the piano comes with a "built-in > shortlist" ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf30433e3a2f7d9c04992e3df2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well said Per. =A0Conceptually the 'world' has a sound in mind of &= #39;what music is' that most of us on LD don't adhere to so it make= s total sense to just approach whatever instrument as if a wide open canvas= , as you say as 'the ground you are leaping on'. =A0The trick is to= get the average bear coming to an instrument to relate that way. =A0I don&= #39;t teach but have dabbled with in the past and I've often thought ab= out how to 'break the mold' of traditional instruction in our socie= ties. =A0Luis, 'toss the rules and just do it' as the kids say.
Jim

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at= 8:58 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote: > piano technique
> and its uniqueness to be a wonderful foundation for music. =A0Its all<= br> > there in front of you with its polyphony.


Indeed! Even singers, wind players, guitarists or whatever should
visualize music like the universal code it really is! Not necessarily
thinking about "piano keys", but you should care to know all note= s and
their relation with scales and chords just as the ground you are
leaping from. In this regard the =A0piano comes with a "built-in
shortlist" =A0;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf30433e3a2f7d9c04992e3df2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 14:31:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C8A2183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=EvQrf3djOwJfH6sdp/gDSQ6ssghQlCChbLEklFY7HcI=; b=Vo56ScFs3bAcaUDzVqrmSUfJYBARC2DV41aIgA2d4iiI8FIkJOLL4IK2YCLx6am9eK Ns+A3SSo+89zXV7OSkf3DIFTIHI4lY8iZ+hwE6z9XwMHikme1EJ6IG0G7eUkPHVHm7Fz KjGP1c+Xsehc7W0FoodnF+nSOBmn/ivbyaeqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=MU8R+9SLL2+WDY+Bf7nyAoLsvZYmSRD2GJ5HX8i3+GEzlni3pfqZs4fEs/3SKA3LG7 wh4yaCqe+NHvq6G1b4g6P51wvOo48HGFDJ1RlTNkbuNs5NHgTCmNgQN0/Fs1f8HexCEe 09FfMhICpDMxIGUtQy+zIIIxmnpjEMo9eh43Y= References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <9B1AEF03-4924-4159-99CE-76E7ADD95EB6@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:31:20 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , "louie.angulo@googlemail.com" Resent-Message-ID: <05oxbD.A.fO.YJdJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Il giorno 06/gen/2011, alle ore 12:48, Louie Angulo ha scritto: > Hi gang, > I just got a digital piano this x-mas and i m looking for a good way to le= arn to read the notes,chords etc. to start playing easy pieces. As a classical trained piano I'd suggest you to look for a basic jazz piano m= ethod as a starting point. That way it should be easy for you to learn how build chords, invertions an= d relationship between notes and intervals. > Ive considered taking a few lessons but i rather not start there blind and= try to learn the basics on my own. The hard part of the work is technique. Here I definitively suggest you to take a few lessons to get the fundamental= to understand how to relax your arms and fingers and how to get YOUR body p= osition in front of the instrument. A few suggestions: Keep your arms formung an angle of 45*. Put your 5 fingers respectively on C-D-E-F-G, adjust each finger on the keys= keeping your hand curved (as you're keeping a tennis ball) then pull down t= he keys. Now keeping down all five keys, start moving up (key release) an down (hit t= he note) your thumbs till you get the control. Do the same with each finger, keeping down the others. Then do it again moving on C#-D#-E#(F)-F#-G# and so on, cromatically. (here you'll discover how different it is from guitar, 'cos you'll have diff= erent finger positions trough white and black keys, while on the guitar you c= an slip your hand to the next fret without changing your shape hand). Work with separate hands at the beginning. Then play the same with both hands keeping a two octave range distance betwe= en them. Later, do the same exercise without keeping down the keys, but just playing a= note after another. It's a matter of gym..... > Is there a good method or program outhere you can recomend where you can a= lso visually see the notes being played on the keyboard that also include ni= ce pieces to start off=20 Just connect your digital piano via MIDI to your computer, run any software t= hat reads midi note and translate them in a score and you'll see which notes= you're playing. Start playing children songs, at the beginning it could be not so easy read a= nd play music with both hands. > thanx for your tips! > cheers > Luis Welcome on board, Luis, hope you'll enjoy the piano. -Fabio=20 www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 14:47:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05FEF183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NrHiQoL3/qHc+cqZ8dOqInXmSG5UHqqI42PwCE1/ZaI=; b=Cl1GMsBiq0SRPdN8jsS1m/cRd5JYKCiz3uJV7wDjHvOa3E3QTT0AWWmps7ckUI+ZCd 3Vo+r/tOJtxmG1W9l92HrK6KgQBLl1EpRPlmIfqejTqmCh4o5C7J6Pl4J5fC9vRGxAGu dMkk6BUajRbfEV+pJXVslprXHbCL+nNmS0M+Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x0sD2LP555EuaDTbX+9ul9U5OaJWjcdTzXWrXU0PrNp2B0nxWfLGSwefMYOcmJsiIA uM4rGQrao03SPjr44ZR+ccLLOqH8cKZ/1u52esFy2C0FkFDo/pah+ih6ee6Ayf6rGI6t jUKVY+87tC/QLTl6haKqMj90myyUVvxi9aERA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:47:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:47:33 +0000 (UTC) ok guys i think i was not very clear,im not exactly a starter as far as playing goes,i know the theory behind chords and can constuct them in the piano or the guitar. I already play some stuff,like slow and simple pieces for ex. Chopin=B4s Prelude in E-Minor you can here it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Def-4Bv5Ng0w the first time i heard it when i was a kid (about 7 yrs. old it moved me so much that i spent hours listening to it in a cassette player and learned it all by ear, thats when my mom decided pay for private lessons,unfortunately i kept learning the lessons by ear because i have bad eyes and could never get along with note reading. I had even tricked the teacher thinking i was looking at the notes for almost a year until he realized i was doing it all by ear.So im still really bad at that. Later on i learned the theory basics have no problem applying it to the pia= no. So now ive been trying to learn other easy pieces but there are parts where my ear comes to its limits and want to be able to read them in a piano chart.However when i put it in front of my im completely lost,specially the bass clef way down.This is why im looking for a chart with all the notes on the 88 keys of the piano, and the chords as well.I havent found aynthing satisfactory yet,i guess guitar is a bit more simple if u never read any notes through tablature. If u find anything on the net that can help me at least to get me going with this id appreciate it. Also if u have other beautiful piano pieces like this ones that are perhaps minimal with lots of space and arent so difficult please direct me to them. Im interested in music that deals more with emotion than technique. For ex. this are the ones in the classical genre that still move me and would like to learn them Gnossiennes No.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRyFhsG8Ip4E&feature=3Drel= atedthanx Gnossienne No.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDTwJojo-_F4&feature=3Drela= ted Gnossienne No.4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtJQGM3MfqmI&feature=3Drela= ted Moonlight Sonata http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvQVeaIHWWck thanx Luis On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > > Marc wonderful approach above to the piano. =A0Ironically while walking > my daughter to school this morn I was just relaying piano technique > and its uniqueness to be a wonderful foundation for music. =A0Its all > there in front of you with its polyphony. =A0I studied formerly in my > college years and just improvise these days. =A0 Not much to share here > that in a serious way Luis echoing Marc, just sit down and explore. > Its like a. Friend said to me once re a conversation on 12-string > guitar technique. =A0In my response to how to approach 12-string,.don't > think about it'. > > Jim > > On 1/6/11, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > > what I found most useful is developping a tactil feel for the piano, ha= d a > > great > > jazz teacher who had me playing triads and seventh chords chromatically= or > > in > > circle of fifths, spelling put the shapes in my mind visually > > > > C major triad white white white > > c# major triad black white black > > > > one hand at a time > > both hands together > > > > spreading seventh chords between two hands > > adding extensions > > > > what is important is having the feel of the shape in your hand and a me= ntal > > image of the chord C# Maj BWB > > > > Also very useful for Jazz type reading chord plus melody... > > > > You will notice there are a lot of great blind jazz =A0and blues pianis= ts. It > > is a > > percussive and touch instrument, don't forget it... > > > > Antony > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mark francombe > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 1:50:22 PM > > Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) > > > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > > My totally un-educated advice is to Stick With C for reading! At least > >>initially. Reading a score is simple in the key of C because then each > >>note is played at the pitch it is written as. Other keys use b or > >>cross marks to imply that a note written as a certain pitch has to be > >>transposed when played. > > > > This is a bit unclear Per. I think what you are trying to say is that, = while > > written music doe NOT require that you "transpose when played", it does= ask > > that > > you remember which notes are play as Sharps or Flats (b's or #'s). The = first > > bit > > of notation on any stave of music is the treble (looks like a f) or bas= s > > (looks > > like a C) clef. This tells is it played above or below middle C and WHI= CH > > NOTES > > are played. > > > > the next is the time sig.. no prob there usually drawn one note above t= he > > other.. and THEN... there is a signifyer of WHICH sharps and flats shou= ld be > > played throughout... this is basically saying what key the piece is in. > > > > > > Markl > > > > > > > > -- > > mark francombe > > www.markfrancombe.com > > www.ordoabkhao.com > > twitter @markfrancombe > > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > > http://www.looop.no > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n & > Peter Th=F6rn. =A0Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 14:50:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF2E5183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=9WKKeoMnqp1xWY1b7jdNh/1doe8RmZmarB4f4nFp5Lo=; b=VbFxzCx0LV1rqQmbO2FUh+etmRFAD05lwjD7NXP7NI6iIlfSz/DmhGo6xACpcLnI7w L8gmwpd0EQajMcmIIZKYJnOzXc0O+ViRYTlN+vkJGqmLuZIDsTB+8NsiLtIqdjVLRN1e w/jq2+Yk/fiJCzg73v3ktx6hq6m2fCeVFlbrQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=JhSjICzOX4yCj0lgqBB4GqpWG361NTmxa2Wxcl0h6iQSQ64eI2x3VwVSRND4191XnT 7rJJTynirVDHz1od4TePefFqES/rOItozxocHMFK7enj8iOMUyJ3MTciD+cdtFcRVGti Vh8cZL0KBajhHSeYnAGQOQrngKY4s6+0qtbiw= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 06:54:27 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Since you already play guitar, you can play piano with a guitar in your = lap. (Not all the time---it's terrible posture but not that bad for an = exorcise if you situate it right.) Now you can bounce back and fourth between the guitar and the piano, = finding the notes on one or the other in a sort of feedback loop.=20 Really, the guitar isn't even important... you can sing just as well (if = you can sing just as well. And if you can't, it's well worth the = practice.)=20 In either event you're training yourself to listen for THE SPACE BETWEEN = THE NOTES.=20 If I might generalize, guitar is more instinctual in it's layout and a = piano is more logical, but they are still both about the space between = the notes.=20 This may be the one time I disagree with Per but don't get stuck in C. = Yes, let it be home (to some necessary extent) at first, but don't get = stuck in it.=20 Since visualization came up, I'd like to stress (though I'm sure = everyone knows but it bares repeating) you can practice anywhere and at = any time by imagining the keyboard. Stuck in an elevator? Visualize the = elevator music. Start by identifying one phrase and then braking that up = to how much distance (how many frets or how many keys---you can do this = interchangeably) there is between two notes.=20 I find it easier to start with vertical light balls, like an elongated = and expanded traffic light, then morph that visually in my mind to fit a = given instrument.=20 Also, if you sacrifice a chicken on every 1st thursday and always play = with your left foot in the air while burning cinnamon scented candles = you'll be a virtuoso in no time! It's true! Forward this email to 10 = friends and you'll be a rock star by your 3rd chicken sacrifice! Oh, and finally, eschew obfuscation. That is to say, DO take a lesson or = two, as you need them, EARLY ON, from real people, in person for the = following reason: to break bad habits before they begin. How you hold = your hand. When the thumb crosses over. Etc. You don't sound like you = need regular lessons, but a few of these, now and again as you go, will = save you time correcting bad habits later.=20 ---Christopher= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 14:52:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CD1C183477; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iv62KriZ4r4ctkCbKGIG2OBz3f1dh5AXHgSjaVnJoqs=; b=yA68HqDCCUjdeizkrDqVn5bnWkwks70/Jzqntg/xkQOkvCA+2QASu91uA2cmQe2h40 03IioBeeOjR7qnDqwzDeVowl5JoPdlw8hAvzW/YGiDytSSGYDKYAEQbGgg5bySOvHdHA qtj2sk6tDmHZCyqMRU8fL1SDVs/vtAXRUTShI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NFLjxq3zLiVnpnyoyoCpllclRkOE1HO9BHy6m/BlIXUFqBFT3sKjJYLYeek/2iOULK oSm9Pi/WBT3A4doa9KHmCw6PKEKWLCggGBDutoeLjIgEVFHrtnFjTcp5tlfnddUHPmPJ 8GkUrG9Z6TfWdVK9ANznTkQCneJyELLJgF074= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9B1AEF03-4924-4159-99CE-76E7ADD95EB6@gmail.com> References: <9B1AEF03-4924-4159-99CE-76E7ADD95EB6@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:52:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Louie Angulo To: Fabio_A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:52:28 +0000 (UTC) ok thats a very good tip Fabio,is there a way to get this classical pieces in midi files, so when i play then i see them the fingering on the keyboard? for the guitar there is stuff for guitar pro where you can see it graphically on the fretboard. thanx Luis > Just connect your digital piano via MIDI to your computer, run any software that reads midi note and translate them in a score and you'll see which notes you're playing. > Start playing children songs, at the beginning it could be not so easy read and play music with both hands. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 15:45:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E127F183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E1maD253IMcupmhK1c/VzW4Yx/IAnN0dZVbfRclf5jw=; b=vYG01b1EvOGKsdPWRaPbzu1wPpwWgXCUBzPpzYEchHWXTJ580t4WkiusqzLM66m6Wz PioMx0Pokor+YuNV2NCPMwwfGcCE3aJF0m2I7ryJKh/jJ8j7lcm20TItcWRGJ1GFLTU7 hSmyAsEy4cnQhKB9lnZPWEgRTteuuBi9uyb3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AuggdfrXC5iVk7ZuU6nZBdMCAPaGKjYjPE71Pea6RtEWb9RXuPLqY/+WzymfflNhAM XVN393NohCzKME4UQWN65mM6gTykuoMwMEVnyCRrV0AtpsV19cjSFJKGytqx6NWtIqK6 qXan/qTIPvaDgP2f9bJ154Pqpmw4Ldh3Xy+Ws= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:45:15 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: kanguru007 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:45:18 +0000 (UTC) >From my (limited) experience I would advise having a few lessons to learn the basics and then continue on your own. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > I just got a digital piano this x-mas and i m looking for a good way to > learn to read the notes,chords etc. to start playing easy pieces. > Ive considered taking a few lessons but i rather not start there blind and > try to learn the basics on my own. > Is there a good method or program outhere you can recomend where you can > also visually see the notes being played on the keyboard that also include > nice pieces to start off with? > thanx for your tips! > cheers > Luis > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 16:02:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F02A183479; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiYHAEd2JU1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACWDI4PvliFTASEZ4k/ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,283,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="91179202" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:05:25 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:02:52 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > I just got a digital piano this x-mas and i m looking for a good way > to learn to read the notes,chords etc. to start playing easy pieces. > Ive considered taking a few lessons but i rather not start there > blind and try to learn the basics on my own. > Is there a good method or program outhere you can recomend where you > can also visually see the notes being played on the keyboard that > also include nice pieces to start off with? This program has everything you're looking for with the possible exception of "nice pieces" to start you off--since that's obviously a matter of taste. http://www.pianolessonsbyvideo.com/crash Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 16:16:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ABA8183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 552352399/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.180.200/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.180.200 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkQCAAd6JU1V0rTI/2dsb2JhbAAMlgDMYYVMBI4a X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,283,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="552352399" Message-ID: <4D25EAC5.3040900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:16:05 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Q Steps (SUS = Substitute) commands in the LP-1 References: <4D221FB3.8000101@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D221FB3.8000101@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4fLvf.A.phD.creJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > true > SUS commands are not possible in the LP-1. > (wouldn't that be fairly easy to program into the software of the unit, > out of curiosity?) > Being easy to program isn't an issue for SUS. As a long term fan of the LP-1 I'd see it this way:- As the LP-1 user interface is conceived as being operable with a *basic midi controller that doesn't need to be programmed* it wouldn't really make a lot of sense to add SUS functions. The 2 obvious downsides of implementing SUS are that the user would have to ensure the midi controller was programmed correctly, and that the simplicity of the LP-1 midi-learn procedure would be compromised. otoh power users can already achieve a SUS functionality if they use a more sophisticated midi controller. Actually I really like that LP-1 behaviour where multiple taps on a switch can create an alternation of replaced and un-replaced chunks. That's totally a by product of the Faux-SUS behaviour ...what I'd call an "emergent feature". That's the sort of thing (abundant on the edp) that really brings the whole looping tech thing alive for me. ;-) Enough with the EDP copying, neither the LP1, nor for that matter Mobius greatly benefit from it. Just tends towards a disjointed feature set and awkward user interface. e.g. to achieve the QReplace function that the LP-1 now has could have been done by simply implementing a "wait for the next QStep" command...that would give *exactly* the same sound and also open up the possibility for a lot of other tricks. (and it would have been one less item on the menu...always a plus point) andy butler From m-----55@att.net Thu Jan 6 16:17:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.231]) by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 76587183461 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.64] by nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2011 16:17:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.9] by tm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2011 16:17:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2011 16:17:15 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 397789.78484.bm@omp1009.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 57591 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jan 2011 16:17:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1294330635; bh=YtMLTt6zY+EJnrVgnqTibgI/SSGGzdBz2cgCUAOUbq0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6Ec/oFUVged07VrOxdcy33y/m6myfcYYYpcHSPo5jW52Sv1bjYNQ/c5k8PqOKPbdUbHQ3bPRMER14fPxRnCQ7OZiJqL+e1f3oNkWTv/skVONdea89zIR4pBH5gVI4Him9Aim8Ekt0ZwXVoJaLM8zB2CJuNiJE8Gr85OaroUtJCc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MYDnGR6NkXeRPfcr6vCfki/sEHRImVNBVfk6YKqW0ebByIA3XOPcLmh6X5DHm1mRLjSyWQd2/n1d4zr87NHgh2rUmI6MDIHv2HQ5tHkTNErlMfLOGKy8WCU8uOAcPELS8xLALjqNrVi526hJ2oglPtUE00B2Kg36YAfRwhCAFuY=; Message-ID: <210886.56234.qm@web80010.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Lm0piloVM1mWNmsnsvozdM2fCAX7zzLzoPZGExFd3PRedEC zuWuS_XIA4qEtqUmr7M55V_c7taUCPQincHf55OkLKad.GOfKDDpiayIprmS leP4nOCrvdRmhdgvR_8qjLEwvIz0uiFupVg3c6gLJOMAOVyhjtmQrRtFIYfo T9NJ64kkLeyQE.sM5lYY53HhvW8kFzSRl12kFdyoaDCU8912EzXEHZK7oBbF syp3eoXWnV4EC.0UTMDOQ5tB4vtkR6EuY5VYnJsBofCEyOAEV003A0k7UAaZ 0HJxPMzFZyxPbM1tCMa0_dZ6us9TzU8DslVxR3yNbN.9VnaBMSoqHRv8u3YB RyJ7jbOURx6Ic6adVpPemRJSwEy0EflS2ylI4J1xBiCiL5kB6n56dz.B63Tz ccqbIkwSmXkD_GJQO9TNNI0X01pVEPQHvYm_wGlCD81.r8mPMxraAOsk53jr HEkcmifmEuuyX4CORAgy._Q0lPMmwzy2X6l1sKokeQxYpqD5ztaD28ifbyPn cUS7S6pTuqyyQGZWMSw7Myb5vTFRUagAQVIwxALKbF3LIMCplOlH7ca6lIOb tmnC.5EIbIWa9Vlczfm33dD6BftqyF.eNAXt9qDd9Qa9GCyJhVfNyWzJmE3f K9bAJkrWCQegF48Ifo9h8.hHJwtfizbUvevlqDbHN2K1XsCqQiIxQOc6dcOc rYtPChYSEsosY4Oi2m8UmsKasvIGSxrnwVvY5TanlH.7DTXTJk8AZPjc_CPf jDwjSco3PvhtaeCqcWmdPyq15gcVi0p9ppFDHeLh47Knkq2SXlYJ6CT.35RM VUJ8Iu0LOcS9ePdgoZBZEvqpPGzGH_JODKab.OxBv3awmAF9ltJKEqyQIGt6 sFxQ6_6EwLGmKQ56M9A3X.cYie8byFzLl7HQ3hwtWH_aO9uvM97yqz7nWR37 XSPPM35Ux2_VIrfkSYLf82fModRYKkNt82.9H6Ga5l_cHPjyYKY1umMNlY9y Uh1yo0QdefsLOMLEujhL33hcGM0B7uQwe64HX2fWszk93UJHpJ0gzr291pCK 6VujSU5tuYwjh9Q-- Received: from [41.184.24.198] by web80010.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:17:15 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 08:17:15 -0800 (PST) From: "dr.mark allen" Reply-To: dr_markallen2210@xnmsn.cn Subject: CONFIDENTIAL COURIER PAYMENT To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1607311872-1294330635=:56234" --0-1607311872-1294330635=:56234 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii FROM: Dr.Mark Allen DIRECTOR: WORLD FUND DISCOVERY MANAGEMENT AND PAYMENT BUREAU. 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--0-1607311872-1294330635=:56234-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 16:32:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2411318347A; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:31:36 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33069-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD7BD652218B24-1B9C-44FF@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:31:59 +0000 (UTC) don't think about it'.....sez jim really?.....love this piano talk!.....it took me many many years to=20 learn how to mis-play the guitar .....i would like to avoid that with learning the piano, which i am=20 also very interested in doing..... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 16:41:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A864183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/I3F7CG8Lmoh9SBn8KJ/E5DdW8B+99qysQM1B98r3Jk=; b=EpWMHIv3oZzfxGbSdJkRtATPWx2LDFmepBAGQC9etCZtR1vDhucTdBMVgjCcSoGaUh uWXES59j4ozEwEdnHMEKuc+7/d9ZD2wTNuq8pgZ/dUz2fClWScszzGv7N7fnk2iofGdz 14R27FVV+Lcu03ouCLcK7CN1FO2bJ6XcmX5hs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TM7Dz9QJdO9C8b6+knnoCzckanYfaKDKOm9OObQyyEanzhSslnYE89XDWFondjLnYg +Vb9g3rL+QGuMlsN6qyhdqDOJI7LDW0iLDBGirHcdWZMmBff2f+jxAkKsJnLaZQ3+UBe D0RGKkxb8Z4ToB6MaF1YVaStaZBoney+vh7e8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD7BD652218B24-1B9C-44FF@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> References: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CD7BD652218B24-1B9C-44FF@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:35:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I've had good results with this book: http://goo.gl/qZuMn Sylvain On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:31 AM, wrote: > > don't think about it'.....sez jim > > really?.....love this piano talk!.....it took me many many years to learn > how to mis-play the guitar > .....i would like to avoid that with learning the piano, which i am also > very interested in doing..... > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 16:42:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A197A183475; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:41:49 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33069-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD7BD7BFE20A6B-1B9C-4827@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:42:08 +0000 (UTC) <> sez chris well put sir!.....although that sounds like a lot-o-thinkin' From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 16:49:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 959C1183474; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101060051 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-06_08:2011-01-06,2011-01-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: John Metzler Subject: MPC 1000 & 2 EDP+ loosing sync Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:49:23 -0800 Message-id: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: <7NvHoB.A.wmE.YKfJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi Every One. I am re-title-ing and re phrasing an earlier email i sent in the hope that will get more attention. I could use some help with getting to the bottom of some sync issues I'm having with my two EDP+ that are being drivin' by my MPC 1000. I would love to hear from the Loopers on this site who use a similar set up. And I would like to talk to Andy Butler about some stuff too. Here is the basics of my Machine... MPC 1000 Echoplex Digital Pro + w/efc7 (#1 for guitar to it's own amp) Echoplex Digital Pro + w/efc7 (#2 for Bass to it's own amp) FCB1010 Alesis QSR AdrenaLinn II Novation SL37 ReMOTE Besides the Bass and Guitar with EDP's going to their own separate amps, all of the line level gear (MPC, QSR, AL2) are going into a small Mackie Mixer and a pair of powered monitors. ---John M. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 16:59:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E778183477; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Cdu6bYGLro7yR5MY33Hd+Nem0K3vlPNXgSzdgMFPLqw=; b=KRAWrQl6pOhinfKZCvJMEoUjeLUniYnc1/jN6JyqH3a5IoQn654yKKvWrB3TgupWre ur6rB0HWKLlz49kqjwRFFx4IJdUoR8aB9R4xjrVdlKEcO41B+r/HBa7GZQ4Q05DJMyeq uQo4Ba/Y63TnA7W9EiN839TJNbYfVJ0E5EUyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w/pj+1/rsd4/ZDZHkvacOL5T7zbvrR1ZsEgOq8bAEoM+YyjbcrRp2M9F0vN9qUz+yy +WPESHVHQ/Mb8H5enNUSYaiOznOEh+Qb10P5hoc9LrVtSVG4eJUMFzRCRvqy3/Q+zVpw 1VUWEB8KxtPsrrTQc1eTiMVtQkx3u9MyuTFyY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD7BD7BFE20A6B-1B9C-4827@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> References: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CD7BD7BFE20A6B-1B9C-4827@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:59:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) 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--0-1351577857-1294333849=:95810-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 17:16:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 293C6183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=m0UAmIO7mmCaexx/iaf/TjTaZjUo0hf5iCRD/VQwJUI=; b=ZLzNhHM0agk4XQWCd2a52IR4YOGhLj/P/UJoIrB1zu4sjyRaNO2Egcjg0M3l9CKMm0 GYgwXS8ekf0lKTYWVNBURaoAd8eTW63HuQIw9X7c5fZK1viV+8tf4XGyl3Lj1zYpOmZV YqOu6xET7Sexl8si7DOapaz2L3V84kawKVtNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=DuXyaXFcZX1mDcfsdwD/TgUYn9TcB83Waf9U+FQNl3Me/rGoJj7JGlSay7KD4j8DZ1 CvXolIkZK5hFBEtKiBFFQPLyCmaNAd5ucOtofVB+z8kcF4FBspak+DFAQFucp+jZ8LOw Bf+5TYNwqKeHXvy6tlpOFx9rW/P/3VQnSF6Gg= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) - visualization in general as a tool From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <8CD7BD7BFE20A6B-1B9C-4827@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:20:52 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CD7BD7BFE20A6B-1B9C-4827@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:16:52 +0000 (UTC) > that sounds like a lot-o-thinkin' Actually, it's a lot LESS thinkin'.=20 Now, this may sound like it's REALLY off topic, but it kind of isn't = because I broke loops down in my head this way as well when I was trying = to figure out how I'd "build" a song quickly.=20 Anyway, I first discovered this when trying to shave in the shower with = no mirror. If I tried to picture my face as it is, I'd fuck it up. but = if I instead pictured razor sized blocks of black where I shaved over a = white likeness of my face shape, then I'd get it exactly right. Easier = to keep in my head.=20 It's EXACTLY like reducing bit depth.=20 Picturing a vertical row of lights requires less processing power to = analyze distance, and is more easily generalizable to picturing finger = distances between different instruments then is visualizing playing one = instrument and trying to generalize it to playing another.=20 And you can do it with notes, instruments, or entire chunks of songs. = (Enter the looping technique.... now you've left the elevator, with the = one non-cheezy component stuck in your head and you figure out how you'd = play it loop it and build on it.) I realize that this is all separate from what the original poster was = asking about, since I now see they are more accomplished, but as I say, = these are good reminders of what we all know.=20 On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > <> > sez chris >=20 >=20 > well put sir!.....although that sounds like a lot-o-thinkin' >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 17:35:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7C4B18347C; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Rb9TOp48yNfDVUUTc3WcCS/Hs6QQ7426lzIFGw+np7Q=; b=pROU2eYlHQ1hDm1HJ2RaFJDxbaUvkZhvOPrl4HFSRCAz4koUbMN++43qPQpzaP9Fk5 ell3psrVMZfnz1wt3zw6io/oyFK8X5t5DNUJZg+/tvCyxcDFHe8Quavjf/bGlTFZkDVF fjra1VC413gQ3RwOIezrtNIyoMrqlDg1P3TMA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PQYmxhSrGLLG8v+qXQDhkSXKUOuocHJBcYTpQW5gXaua3SVHxyvkCfxnPkAr7eaZwz sxA03Whrs3iFGmxCYzpr9hYPiHSbm+EIdQxm+b+dANJxrpjlxkekyc243NDU7ErUI+vo VgCCnHe8rldnckPPSgVez0z+Y2dbRwgc+oT7c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <865183.81498.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CD7BD7BFE20A6B-1B9C-4827@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:35:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) - visualization in general as a tool From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:35:11 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: >> <> >> sez chris Funny trick! Nice allegory with those bouncing traffic lights ;-) Not my bag though since I tend to think about whatever note I hear as its position in the scale (or "melody", or "chord", depending on the context). That's dirt simple because you immediately hear if a note is the root note, the big third, the "minus second" or whatever. When experiencing music this way it is just a trivial translation act to make it playable on any given physical instrument. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 18:33:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5FC3183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 10:32:52 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LUIS ANGULO CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Luis, I'm not an accomplished pianist but I have played a bit of piano every since I have formal piano lessons for a couple of years fifty years ago. I think that using C major (and all of it's resultant 7 Greek modes) as a point of departure and a way of understanding how to play in any key is the fastest way to get a handle on the instrument. In a very cool way, the keyboard makes you think, specifically, of intervallic relationships in a way that the guitar doesn't. Precisely because each scale is played slightly differently one needs to concentrate on intervallic relationships when forming scales and spelling chords. The relative ease of moving chord shapes on guitar seems to take away from this approach. (again, I plead not being an expert at all, but as a generalist: one who has tried to play dozens of different instruments competently). The one important thing to learn on the piano is the fingerings of scales, because there are several different approaches to scalar playing from key to key (and from hand to hand) as an example, when you play in C Major the right hand plays the upward run C D E F G A B C by playing thumb , 1st finger, 2nd, then reaching under the 2nd finger to play thumb, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th whereas the left hand plays the same run 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, thumb, then reaching over the thumb with the 2nd, 1st, thumb A simple book of Piano Scales will give you this way of getting around the instrument. You should be able to find one of those pocket guides (that fit in guitar cases) with Piano Scales and their relative fingerings. ***************** One last thing, Luis, another approach to all of this (unless you intend to master the piano) is to use the white keys for everything and use your transposition buttons on your electric keyboard if you want to access other pitches for your Tonic note. That's how I always think about it, frankly. I see a chord or scale beginning in C and then transpose it, either literally on an acoustic piano or virtually, using a transposition button on my electric keyboard. Real piano teachers would be aghast at this idea but I find it useful for composition. >> >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 18:38:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A8A2183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D260C0D.3080405@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 10:38:05 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louie Angulo CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:38:15 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > the first time i heard it when i was a kid (about 7 yrs. old it moved > me so much that i spent hours listening to it in a cassette player and > learned it all by ear, > thats when my mom decided pay for private lessons,unfortunately i kept > learning the lessons by ear because i have bad eyes and could never > get along with note reading. > I had even tricked the teacher thinking i was looking at the notes for > almost a year until he realized i was doing it all by ear That's hilarious, Luis. I made it to first chair in the school band on clarinet for five years by faking my teacher into thinking I could read.* I just had a really good ear and never learned to read pitches (something I still struggle with to this very day, although, ironically, I'm a really good rhythmic site reader and have taught hundreds of pianists and guitarists how to improve their rhythmic reading). It made me feel better that you had the same story because I've always had a little bit of shame about this fact. rick walker *before the drumset caused me to run kicking and screaming away from the clarinet at the age of 13. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 19:02:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A501183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D260C0D.3080405@cruzio.com> References: <4D260C0D.3080405@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:02:16 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b83c0ecca0504993223fe Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:02:19 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b83c0ecca0504993223fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I made it to first chair in the school band on clarinet Pics or it didn't happen. --0016363b83c0ecca0504993223fe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> I made it to first chair in the school band on clarinet

Pics or it didn't happen.

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References: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > I think that using C major (and all of it's resultant 7 Greek modes) > as a point of departure and a way of understanding how to play in any > key is the fastest way to get a handle on the instrument. > > In a very cool way, the keyboard makes you think, specifically, of > intervallic relationships > in a way that the guitar doesn't. It would really be interesting to hear the opinion of someone who did first learn the guitar and is now both an accomplished guitarist and pianist on this "understanding piano for guitarists" topic. And that might just be a problem - any of the people I can think of from the top of my head (Gismonti, Towner, Keneally, van Halen) did start with piano and then picked up guitar later...just a coincidence? Anyone can name some counter examples? Being an "amatuer Gismonti" myself (meaning: learning piano first, then studying composition, then doing some guitar), I can only offer a look at it from the other side: (all of my statements describe my personal learning experiences here, which might differ from those of others, and actually be counter-intuitive or even inefficient): Piano is very neatly organized in octaves, and how fingering stays constant from octave to octave, which the guitar is not so much, at least not intuitively (the major 3rd between G and B string doesn't help here...). However, the guitar is (with the exception of the major 3rd...) more consistent with intervals, e.g. 2 frets = one tone, 1 string up 1 fret back = major 4rd etc, which the piano is not (unless you're counting keys, which, due to the white/black logic, is not the intuitive way to perceive it). On the piano, the step from the goal to play a certain chord to fingering the right keys is chord -> intervals -> notes -> fingering, i.e. from "maj7 on B" you go via "major third, minor third, major third" to "B D# F# A#" to the actual hand position. And this works well in all keys (and imo it actually helps if you start doing so early on). And btw, you'll have a hard time even playing standard pop/rock/blues chords when sticking with white keys. Let's say you want a blues - do it in A (because its similar to Aeolian), so you have the chords Am (works fine), Dm (works fine), Am (works fine), E7 - buggers. Same if you play major (in C), and then want to emphasise the tonic's double role as the subdominant's dominant by adding a 7... That being said - I'm mostly curious about the "guitarists who later picked up piano and are famous for both" suggestions! Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 19:30:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B056183477; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=a2rVXNJKrbdLOP5CypTFFwI7Nn2UmWcQK1ewAIlYF+k=; b=jbBvd2dtC5vneqIILJpPAVsPlNBZzZQ2DAWGv4fbL8HeWtLxcuNzseARvH4MuPHiV8 qA7yP/JuVPGmLAYwmqRio0ztpZBqEoK8qxMoUoZubxBO6liKWt4DqbnCIaoZi/yQg2ET +BnuQDTe4UjikogjddawCXK/+hL79aX5vOYtc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fESIuUxbEvkXvHBmXNVPH4fs9yvKwglAy6w3jnR1KY/GwxJLXjPwy0X2EEJPv7GIrz F+DeSIxKbhhbZfAZKLE8FYvUgRwQTzkt9dVCoZBcC/1Hm4t6UAxW6ld3J6fVlh8W0pTs 5rgvD/od4ByjA30oDNvRsJi+fXqzoYLRZ+6PM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> References: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:30:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:30:26 +0000 (UTC) the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them only,they never sound wrong;-) cheers Luis On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Rick Walker schrieb: >> >> I think that =A0using C major (and all of it's resultant =A07 Greek mode= s) as >> a point of departure and a way of understanding how to play in any key i= s >> the fastest way to get a handle on the instrument. >> >> In a very cool way, =A0the keyboard makes you think, specifically, of >> intervallic relationships >> in a way that the guitar doesn't. > > It would really be interesting to hear the opinion of someone who did fir= st > learn the guitar and is now both an accomplished guitarist and pianist on > this "understanding piano for guitarists" topic. > And that might just be a problem - any of the people I can think of from = the > top of my head (Gismonti, Towner, Keneally, van Halen) did start with pia= no > and then picked up guitar later...just a coincidence? Anyone can name som= e > counter examples? > > Being an "amatuer Gismonti" myself (meaning: learning piano first, then > studying composition, then doing some guitar), I can only offer a look at= it > from the other side: > > (all of my statements describe my personal learning experiences here, whi= ch > might differ from those of others, and actually be counter-intuitive or e= ven > inefficient): > Piano is very neatly organized in octaves, and how fingering stays consta= nt > from octave to octave, which the guitar is not so much, at least not > intuitively (the major 3rd between G and B string doesn't help here...). > However, the guitar is (with the exception of the major 3rd...) more > consistent with intervals, e.g. 2 frets =3D one tone, 1 string up 1 fret = back > =3D major 4rd etc, which the piano is not (unless you're counting keys, w= hich, > due to the white/black logic, is not the intuitive way to perceive it). O= n > the piano, the step from the goal to play a certain chord to fingering th= e > right keys is chord -> intervals -> notes -> fingering, i.e. from "maj7 o= n > B" you go via "major third, minor third, major third" to "B D# F# A#" to = the > actual hand position. And this works well in all keys (and imo it actuall= y > helps if you start doing so early on). And btw, you'll have a hard time e= ven > playing standard pop/rock/blues chords when sticking with white keys. > Let's say you want a blues - do it in A (because its similar to Aeolian),= so > you have the chords Am (works fine), Dm (works fine), Am (works fine), E7= - > buggers. Same if you play major (in C), and then want to emphasise the > tonic's double role as the subdominant's dominant by adding a 7... > > That being said - I'm mostly curious about the "guitarists who later pick= ed > up piano and are famous for both" suggestions! > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 19:38:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C419E183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HQQJkWoJpwX/4fk8og8LWfdcfHVOati0lacsPD0lKRE=; b=ZgQ1d24eRFBHYTbaft2iveukoESI67txNdbj80n6pDjOutJUA+aVd56b7YeApBKzYG ZYvDMbAyGbF6KTpCMGLNTAZKFBK7XBVvlxOe2Wn0cCKMJ6iQdmYjMQE+dRJwCngXJJt0 84GNl16PFjKZAYrbslnEcDy4usCfCiB2LPKvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bHxXecZV1Tn8s10OC0rc0y8tjsJNWVMUVgxugwlBte3Ti/z5f+4JO9KQSAYUXCKCLk 5h1308Sftx3xAekAU6HH9QRwUGH0S2HIXIJsny76tZ0YkwTWgB6CC+TaphyYy6Lxx6V7 9wOq/SPexnmK/0aj9rdn3vqOJEZV/MZG8flDU= Message-ID: <4D261A27.2070405@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:38:15 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) References: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo schrieb: > the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them > only,they never sound wrong;-) > It's because all those keys are part of melodic minor (if going from C# as the root). They've used it for centuries, did always work. Same as the blues, only more antique. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 19:41:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05ED1183477; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=C+8i0Zp/AAMbL6TGtUBKA1uvwNlWpC0jRzq/yMAzpkQ=; b=tgs91Xnn8hUPet8/N5oxxulXUXQNFpdNQSxt7lRwT0eKgdy7f4U7UjKAzsRtbw9Fic ZeLD/W5db6UynSeEUNY/tdxcVYW3P8QVJabUimfOpR8kBaYdC21oNuB+CoQHidjCWa2n Rf7m8ZTpxtbX3DGqcrklhCYEYB58NaXC0vZxo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nQLeYQdESIi109Rl69DMXONYZxgy5zl7YYSVt/8PUVP6tP+m+KlL3UyNf3kdglm7cs LJ/ZMQeD1Lthnfglbd3d1hBW3i99ZeyZiQ2lmuPsA04chQgYf5T3XGTlGeznaEwdwoDq Ij1hgOKQSAhYX/01O31/+Ea892opNe5x8kZAU= Message-ID: <4D261AE3.3090903@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:41:23 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) - post scriptum References: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0s-tEB.A.g1B.hrhJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo schrieb: > the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them > only,they never sound wrong;- Same think works if on a guitar, you omit the B string and only use open string or even-numbered frets. Debussy could do this all day... -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 19:53:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 464DF18347A; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:53:20 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:53:21 +0000 (UTC) ?My own musical journey began with piano, but it was cursed by bad timing and other items. My mother was more interested in us ingesting the Discipline of Practice than she was in us actually playing the piano... but ultimately this was unimportant as you will see. My teachers on the keyboard went like this: Age six, school lessons began just a month before summer vacation and my family's move to the East Coast; Age eight, A woman in her 70s who ran off with her travel agent and was never heard from again; Age nine, An old gentleman who sadly passed away; Age 12, Another older lady who just failed to show up and never was heard from again; Age 15, A guy with Marty Feldman eyes with a Liberace-style wardrobe who pulled the blinds on his place when I came for lessons (this lasted only three weeks); Age 19, A marvelous guy who was one of Barry Manilow's arrangers and brought - instead of awful contrived pieces with titles like "Swaying Silver Birches" (shudder) - some of Mozart's pieces created to teach people keyboard skills. Went on tour with Barry, never seen again. Each of these teachers lasted less than three months. Over time I assimilated the instrument enough to learn how to play by ear, but never really via sight-reading. And at 13, my Dad (who had wanted to be a jazz trumpeter when he was in college and had met some of the greats like Raymond Scott!) was taking guitar lessons and the store went bankrupt. They owed him $30, and told him to keep the acoustic nylon-string guitar. It sat in the TV room corner until I secreted it upstairs with the instruction book. I couldn't make sense of the tabs etc and taught myself how to play using an open chord I figured out at the time (AEAEAC#) that as it happened was a basic blues tuning. I wouldn't recommend this line of instruction to anyone! But it worked for me, if after a long time. :) -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:25 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Rick Walker schrieb: > I think that using C major (and all of it's resultant 7 Greek modes) as > a point of departure and a way of understanding how to play in any key is > the fastest way to get a handle on the instrument. > > In a very cool way, the keyboard makes you think, specifically, of > intervallic relationships > in a way that the guitar doesn't. It would really be interesting to hear the opinion of someone who did first learn the guitar and is now both an accomplished guitarist and pianist on this "understanding piano for guitarists" topic. And that might just be a problem - any of the people I can think of from the top of my head (Gismonti, Towner, Keneally, van Halen) did start with piano and then picked up guitar later...just a coincidence? Anyone can name some counter examples? Being an "amatuer Gismonti" myself (meaning: learning piano first, then studying composition, then doing some guitar), I can only offer a look at it from the other side: (all of my statements describe my personal learning experiences here, which might differ from those of others, and actually be counter-intuitive or even inefficient): Piano is very neatly organized in octaves, and how fingering stays constant from octave to octave, which the guitar is not so much, at least not intuitively (the major 3rd between G and B string doesn't help here...). However, the guitar is (with the exception of the major 3rd...) more consistent with intervals, e.g. 2 frets = one tone, 1 string up 1 fret back = major 4rd etc, which the piano is not (unless you're counting keys, which, due to the white/black logic, is not the intuitive way to perceive it). On the piano, the step from the goal to play a certain chord to fingering the right keys is chord -> intervals -> notes -> fingering, i.e. from "maj7 on B" you go via "major third, minor third, major third" to "B D# F# A#" to the actual hand position. And this works well in all keys (and imo it actually helps if you start doing so early on). And btw, you'll have a hard time even playing standard pop/rock/blues chords when sticking with white keys. Let's say you want a blues - do it in A (because its similar to Aeolian), so you have the chords Am (works fine), Dm (works fine), Am (works fine), E7 - buggers. Same if you play major (in C), and then want to emphasise the tonic's double role as the subdominant's dominant by adding a 7... That being said - I'm mostly curious about the "guitarists who later picked up piano and are famous for both" suggestions! Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 20:52:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE84E183474; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4D261A27.2070405@googlemail.com> References: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> <4D261A27.2070405@googlemail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-359822458 Message-Id: From: Revfever Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:51:58 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=6.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, RDNS_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on host.newworlddelivery.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:52:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-359822458 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Mmmmm! Whole tone scales! Mmmmm. Tasty! (and "mysterious" and damned easy to play!) And also, what that infamous ol' "Devil's Triad", eh? (AKA- "Tritone") http://www.imaginativeuniversal.com/blog/post/2008/07/09/The-Devils- Triad.aspx 'According to tradition, the tritone was called the Devil's Chord or the Diabolis in Musica, a sound so dissonant and so puissant it was believed to be capable of raising the Lord of Hell himself. For this reason, in it's irrationality, the Roman Catholic Church banned the Devil's Triad, on pain of excommunication. Today, of course, bands such as Metallica and Black Sabbath use the tritone on a regular basis with no adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!) Cheers, Rev.Fever Portland,OR http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Louie Angulo schrieb: >> the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them >> only,they never sound wrong;-) >> > It's because all those keys are part of melodic minor (if going > from C# as the root). They've used it for centuries, did always > work. Same as the blues, only more antique. > --Apple-Mail-1-359822458 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Mmmmm!  Whole tone scales!  Mmmmm. Tasty! (and = "mysterious" and damned easy to play!)

And = also, what that infamous ol' "Devil's Triad", eh?  (AKA- = "Tritone")

'According to tradition, the tritone = was called the Devil's Chord or the Diabolis in Musica, a sound = so dissonant and so puissant it was believed to be capable of = raising the Lord of Hell himself.  For this reason, in it's = irrationality, the Roman Catholic Church banned the Devil's Triad, on = pain of excommunication.  Today, of course, bands such as = Metallica and Black = Sabbath  use the tritone on a regular basis with no = adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!)


--000e0cd52e70f7b78b04996cb459-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 17:05:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D41A818347D; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0VPoxbbXd9IUXI6hQvwKn5Axw/UiFh4HCcg6SqrIHis=; b=YLfrOu0SmLYRhBy9KGSfCXEkLaV0h4S5iFyhx/cl4C2eAV6+lNOFvFrJhfB2NKo/bs mozMdzkj7HKPzn0PltuSc1yr/6l3b1YUTVYpermKZ9K6FJTCuL0IWdKEIEAGcKx2zKFM wGr6Vp7AgcWdLxq50jcfSMS7XzIGFOW6CZU6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Bvd8jO0uRs5LbyzoEV2w+tR6Wkgh3XPgw8fdFA/RQ32adtOkA2mebLqmkLocu+fjE9 uRtNq7/8P8KugynXEygRes2rcVxernGjXyUTn8HWWcJTd3KHtUtV/Q7DZxSRTX12QMD4 xN8erQVOf25DssdzrSLX0mApGXxDXs0ikmHzU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <881243.64609.qm@web24615.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <78CEE563-891F-4A80-89EA-B3AA3FF57CD9@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:05:09 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) From: Simeon Harris To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5d0568ec41104996cdab9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:05:10 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5d0568ec41104996cdab9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 don't worry - sorted On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > ok, i've tried adding this script to 1.42 and 1.43 and it causes mobius to > crash. > > could someone else try it and let me know how you get on? > > sim > > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Superb, thanks Stephen! >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:08, Stephen Scott wrote: >> >> Sim, >> >> I asked this exact question a long while ago, so Jeff (I think it was) >> kindly wrote this script for me; >> >> !name Insert SubCycle >> Variable saveQuantize quantize >> set quantize off >> Wait subCycle >> InsertOnly >> Wait subCycle >> Record >> set 8thsPerCycle 8thsPerCycle + 1 >> set quantize saveQuantize >> >> Stephen >> >> >> --- On *Sat, 8/1/11, Simeon Harris *wrote: >> >> >> From: Simeon Harris >> Subject: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) >> To: >> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Saturday, 8 January, 2011, 20:42 >> >> ok, having figured out, thanks to jeff, how to trim the end off a loop, >> i'm wondering if it's possible to add a bit on? >> >> insert only seems to work with cycles and i'd like to add on a subcycle. >> is the only way to do this with a quantised bounce that lasts for one cycle >> + one subcycle? >> >> ta >> >> sim >> >> >> > --000e0cd5d0568ec41104996cdab9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable don't worry - sorted

On Sun, Jan 9, 2= 011 at 4:54 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrot= e:
ok, i've trie= d adding this script to 1.42 and 1.43 and it causes mobius to crash.
could someone else try it and let me know how you get on?

sim


On Sat, Jan 8= , 2011 at 10:19 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.c= om> wrote:
Superb, thanks Stephen!

Sent from my iPod

On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:08, Stephen Scott <loopingsteve@yahoo.co.uk<= /a>> wrote:

Sim,

I asked this exact question= a long while ago, so Jeff (I think it was) kindly wrote this script for me= ;

!name Insert SubCycle
Variable saveQuantize quantize
set quantize off=
Wait subCycle
InsertOnly
Wait subCycle
Record
set 8thsPerCy= cle 8thsPerCycle + 1
set quantize saveQuantize

Stephen


--- On Sat, 8/1/11, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com&g= t; wrote:

From: Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
Subject: yet a= nother mobius question! (not another one....!)
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Date: Saturday, 8 January, 2011, 20:42

ok, having figured out, = thanks to jeff, how to trim the end off a loop, i'm wondering if it's possible to add a bit on?

insert only seems to work with c= ycles and i'd like to add on a subcycle. is the only way to do this wit= h a quantised bounce that lasts for one cycle + one subcycle?

ta

sim


Cheers,
Portland,OR
Louie Angulo schrieb:
=
the one thing i love about = black keys is that when you stick to them
  

It's because all those keys are part of melodic = minor (if going from C# as the root). They've used it for centuries, did = always work. Same as the blues, only more antique.
Resent-Message-ID: <4dn5yB.A.FNE.m1iJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:00:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-360303798 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Mmmmm! Whole tone scales! Mmmmm. Tasty! (and "mysterious" and damned eas= y to play!) It isn't.=20 c-d-e-f#-g#-a# is a whole-tone scale. -fabio www.eterogeneo.com >=20 > And also, what that infamous ol' "Devil's Triad", eh? (AKA- "Tritone") >=20 > http://www.imaginativeuniversal.com/blog/post/2008/07/09/The-Devils-Triad.= aspx > 'According to tradition, the tritone was called the Devil's Chord or the D= iabolis in Musica, a sound so dissonant and so puissant it was believed to b= e capable of raising the Lord of Hell himself. For this reason, in it's irr= ationality, the Roman Catholic Church banned the Devil's Triad, on pain of e= xcommunication. Today, of course, bands such as Metallica and Black Sabbath= use the tritone on a regular basis with no adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!)= >=20 > Cheers, > Rev.Fever > Portland,OR > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever >=20 > On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >=20 >> Louie Angulo schrieb: >>> the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them >>> only,they never sound wrong;-) >>> =20 >> It's because all those keys are part of melodic minor (if going from C# a= s the root). They've used it for centuries, did always work. Same as the blu= es, only more antique. >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-360303798 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8


Mmmmm!  Whole tone scales!  Mmmmm. Tasty! (and "mysterious" a= nd damned easy to play!)

It isn'= t. 
c-d-e-f#-g#-a# is a whole-tone scale.

-fabio


And also= , what that infamous ol' "Devil's Triad", eh?  (AKA- "Tritone")

'Accord= ing to tradition, the tritone was called the Devil's Chord or the Diabol= is in Musica, a sound so dissonant and so puissant it was beli= eved to be capable of raising the Lord of Hell himself.  For this reaso= n, in it's irrationality, the Roman Catholic Church banned the Devil's Triad= , on pain of excommunication.  Today, of course, bands such as <= em>Metallica and Black Sabbath  u= se the tritone on a regular basis with no adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!= )

Cheers,
Rev.Feve= r
Portland,OR

<= /div>
On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:
Louie Angulo schrieb:
the one= thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them
only,they never sound wrong;-)

 &n= bsp;

It's because all those keys are part of melodic minor (if going from C#= as the root). They've used it for centuries, did always work. Same as the b= lues, only more antique.


= --Apple-Mail-1-360303798-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 21:07:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFA26183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 716013.29031.bm@omp1009.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=saxDVptLUTFif/2B64QgzV6j0Nt9XYfbHzR/hycWSXjjYijtUyWKdsTG+8prbdEKzWz+h/1Z0zhQH1j2JyE7JLKsazlFIDlJksII6kBJFGJ7j9++gvyaBSmFtnaR9vhQGlc3yUMbRGkMSk1gy9mYXPqNlAV4nE+4Eh9YJu3+umY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1294348024; bh=t3njvCaHelZEWmhTZiJMfDYIn4mw1UDlPx4dGeo8uPM=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=hu9X876Kbj1Qp+23cPgTPnI78/GRPUkQlCalVZFiqodwU2rzfPDFQW/95HRmU4/L5X00fvHNDJn2BXyvk137t1dLQNGe20MYO/Akqk5QPdmAwye0BXiYUx7J0QCJycW7MtZ9vOVh0RkJqIedy1HVUJM7uKVtLQOzulaX5eaIJpU= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: Xg4Y1TsVM1kqdjWatApK6IcyuBBT0MztPZnfr3iIzM8SmHW .Xyicd.N2Z4njfVXVJlbuVODPqJLUloH2yqYeVRopZEHRdRYZ87ZCnxmtvYy Fy9v.UWXPFLmdX45tzXEv3fcEBj_lX7mG54KVPUm8Y3GAO3Qmcbs7hGmBA02 0pKCHJyJRUtPcVi6Rus2afMMZc8JipjUw33LoltbEeszSI4svLt1kHky.mPo zNdaoPTamraTJTGXR6jNmSPAms.7y.bmFpc4svZjPO09rGHp.7sNTt64oPhy K_5RAr8gDAtYWSKW8KiY- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> <4D261A27.2070405@googlemail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-360722383 Message-Id: <46BF3382-A452-47A4-8F92-54BB67039B61@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:06:58 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:07:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-360722383 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed And a thats how Robert Fripp made Red (and Thrak and lots of others) Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 6 Jan 2011, at 20:59, Fabio_A wrote: > > >> Mmmmm! Whole tone scales! Mmmmm. Tasty! (and "mysterious" and >> damned easy to play!) > > It isn't. > c-d-e-f#-g#-a# is a whole-tone scale. > > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > >> >> And also, what that infamous ol' "Devil's Triad", eh? (AKA- >> "Tritone") >> >> http://www.imaginativeuniversal.com/blog/post/2008/07/09/The- >> Devils-Triad.aspx >> 'According to tradition, the tritone was called the Devil's Chord >> or the Diabolis in Musica, a sound so dissonant and so puissant it >> was believed to be capable of raising the Lord of Hell himself. >> For this reason, in it's irrationality, the Roman Catholic Church >> banned the Devil's Triad, on pain of excommunication. Today, of >> course, bands such as Metallica and Black Sabbath use the tritone >> on a regular basis with no adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!) >> >> Cheers, >> Rev.Fever >> Portland,OR >> http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever >> >> On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> >>> Louie Angulo schrieb: >>>> the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to >>>> them >>>> only,they never sound wrong;-) >>>> >>> It's because all those keys are part of melodic minor (if going >>> from C# as the root). They've used it for centuries, did always >>> work. Same as the blues, only more antique. >>> >> --Apple-Mail-1-360722383 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII And a thats how Robert Fripp made Red (and Thrak and lots of = others)

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 6 Jan 2011, = at 20:59, Fabio_A wrote:



=
Mmmmm!  Whole tone scales!  Mmmmm. Tasty! (and = "mysterious" and damned easy to = play!)

It = isn't. 
c-d-e-f#-g#-a# is a whole-tone = scale.

-fabio


And also, what that infamous = ol' "Devil's Triad", eh?  (AKA- = "Tritone")

'According to tradition, the tritone = was called the Devil's Chord or the Diabolis in Musica, a sound = so dissonant and so puissant it was believed to be capable of = raising the Lord of Hell himself.  For this reason, in it's = irrationality, the Roman Catholic Church banned the Devil's Triad, on = pain of excommunication.  Today, of course, bands such as = Metallica and Black = Sabbath  use the tritone on a regular basis with no = adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!)

Cheers,
Portland,OR
Louie Angulo schrieb:
=
the one thing i love about = black keys is that when you stick to them
  
It's because all those keys are part of melodic = minor (if going from C# as the root). They've used it for centuries, did = always work. Same as the blues, only more antique.
From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> <4D261A27.2070405@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:08:54 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:08:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_dJJY+/DDl1OoYA7lb4aPkQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Black keys== pentatonic scale. tritone==two notes an augmented fourth apart toby ----- Original Message ----- From: Revfever To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:51 PM Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Mmmmm! Whole tone scales! Mmmmm. Tasty! (and "mysterious" and damned easy to play!) And also, what that infamous ol' "Devil's Triad", eh? (AKA- "Tritone") http://www.imaginativeuniversal.com/blog/post/2008/07/09/The-Devils-Triad.aspx 'According to tradition, the tritone was called the Devil's Chord or the Diabolis in Musica, a sound so dissonant and so puissant it was believed to be capable of raising the Lord of Hell himself. For this reason, in it's irrationality, the Roman Catholic Church banned the Devil's Triad, on pain of excommunication. Today, of course, bands such as Metallica and Black Sabbath use the tritone on a regular basis with no adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!) Cheers, Rev.Fever Portland,OR http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: Louie Angulo schrieb: the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them only,they never sound wrong;-) It's because all those keys are part of melodic minor (if going from C# as the root). They've used it for centuries, did always work. Same as the blues, only more antique. --Boundary_(ID_dJJY+/DDl1OoYA7lb4aPkQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Black keys== pentatonic scale.
tritone==two notes an augmented fourth apart
 
toby
----- Original Message -----
From: Revfever
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.)

Mmmmm!  Whole tone scales!  Mmmmm. Tasty! (and "mysterious" and damned easy to play!)

And also, what that infamous ol' "Devil's Triad", eh?  (AKA- "Tritone")

'According to tradition, the tritone was called the Devil's Chord or the Diabolis in Musica, a sound so dissonant and so puissant it was believed to be capable of raising the Lord of Hell himself.  For this reason, in it's irrationality, the Roman Catholic Church banned the Devil's Triad, on pain of excommunication.  Today, of course, bands such as Metallica and Black Sabbath  use the tritone on a regular basis with no adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!)

Cheers,
Rev.Fever
Portland,OR

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:

Louie Angulo schrieb:
the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them
only,they never sound wrong;-)

  

It's because all those keys are part of melodic minor (if going from C# as the root). They've used it for centuries, did always work. Same as the blues, only more antique.


--Boundary_(ID_dJJY+/DDl1OoYA7lb4aPkQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 21:11:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2CCC183477; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Jk3WjQTHTWEBQAAFKfNrSw)" X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101060081 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-06_10:2011-01-06,2011-01-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Message-id: <91F3680F79824767A930DA60904D6C84@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> <4D261A27.2070405@googlemail.com> <46BF3382-A452-47A4-8F92-54BB67039B61@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:11:45 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:11:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Jk3WjQTHTWEBQAAFKfNrSw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Red is mostly based upon an octatonic scale, i.e. half step-whole step scale, root movement in minor 3rds. toby ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Stevens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) And a thats how Robert Fripp made Red (and Thrak and lots of others) Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 6 Jan 2011, at 20:59, Fabio_A wrote: Mmmmm! Whole tone scales! Mmmmm. Tasty! (and "mysterious" and damned easy to play!) It isn't. c-d-e-f#-g#-a# is a whole-tone scale. -fabio www.eterogeneo.com And also, what that infamous ol' "Devil's Triad", eh? (AKA- "Tritone") http://www.imaginativeuniversal.com/blog/post/2008/07/09/The-Devils-Triad.aspx 'According to tradition, the tritone was called the Devil's Chord or the Diabolis in Musica, a sound so dissonant and so puissant it was believed to be capable of raising the Lord of Hell himself. For this reason, in it's irrationality, the Roman Catholic Church banned the Devil's Triad, on pain of excommunication. Today, of course, bands such as Metallica and Black Sabbath use the tritone on a regular basis with no adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!) Cheers, Rev.Fever Portland,OR http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: Louie Angulo schrieb: the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them only,they never sound wrong;-) It's because all those keys are part of melodic minor (if going from C# as the root). They've used it for centuries, did always work. Same as the blues, only more antique. --Boundary_(ID_Jk3WjQTHTWEBQAAFKfNrSw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Red is mostly based upon an octatonic scale, i.e. half step-whole step scale, root movement in minor 3rds.
 
toby
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.)

And a thats how Robert Fripp made Red (and Thrak and lots of others)


On 6 Jan 2011, at 20:59, Fabio_A wrote:



Mmmmm!  Whole tone scales!  Mmmmm. Tasty! (and "mysterious" and damned easy to play!)

It isn't. 
c-d-e-f#-g#-a# is a whole-tone scale.

-fabio


And also, what that infamous ol' "Devil's Triad", eh?  (AKA- "Tritone")

'According to tradition, the tritone was called the Devil's Chord or the Diabolis in Musica, a sound so dissonant and so puissant it was believed to be capable of raising the Lord of Hell himself.  For this reason, in it's irrationality, the Roman Catholic Church banned the Devil's Triad, on pain of excommunication.  Today, of course, bands such as Metallica and Black Sabbath  use the tritone on a regular basis with no adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!)

Cheers,
Rev.Fever
Portland,OR

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:

Louie Angulo schrieb:
the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them
only,they never sound wrong;-)
  
It's because all those keys are part of melodic minor (if going from C# as the root). They've used it for centuries, did always work. Same as the blues, only more antique.



--Boundary_(ID_Jk3WjQTHTWEBQAAFKfNrSw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 21:24:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D34D183478; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> <4D261A27.2070405@googlemail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-361735716 Message-Id: <7A7EF2AE-658B-4D69-ACFF-9025A74FFFE6@ubergadget.com> From: Revfever Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:23:51 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.5 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_50,FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2,HTML_MESSAGE,RDNS_DYNAMIC,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on obf1.tritico.net X-Spam-Level: **** Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:24:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-361735716 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jan 6, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Mmmmm! Whole tone scales! Mmmmm. Tasty! (and "mysterious" and > damned easy to play!) > > It isn't. > c-d-e-f#-g#-a# is a whole-tone scale. I know that, and the above, along with the other WT scales have mostly been a breeze for me to play once I figured them out which took only seconds to do so.. But, maybe that's just me? (Or....?) :-) -f ya want some serious (but wonderful) overkill on the intricacies etc of music, then read the bio of Gyorgy Ligeti, entitled 'Gyorgy Ligeti: Music of the Imagination". (2003. Richard Steinitz, author) The majority of the book is dedicated to some *very meticulous* study and analysis of all of Ligeti's known and published, performed, recorded works. Much of this went WAY over my head but it was still *very fascinating* reading, along with reading and learning about the equally fascinating and *intense* life of Ligeti himself. The book was published and released when Ligeti was still alive. He sadly passed away a small few years later. But hey...what a LIFE and what a GENIUS! However, I digress.... PPS- Oh, one more thing. Ligeti also wrote scores for the piano, as well. Taking a look at some of those scores will just about take your head off! Intense! Very few people have been able to perform these scores accurately. > > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > >> >> And also, what that infamous ol' "Devil's Triad", eh? (AKA- >> "Tritone") >> >> http://www.imaginativeuniversal.com/blog/post/2008/07/09/The- >> Devils-Triad.aspx >> 'According to tradition, the tritone was called the Devil's Chord >> or the Diabolis in Musica, a sound so dissonant and so puissant it >> was believed to be capable of raising the Lord of Hell himself. >> For this reason, in it's irrationality, the Roman Catholic Church >> banned the Devil's Triad, on pain of excommunication. Today, of >> course, bands such as Metallica and Black Sabbath use the tritone >> on a regular basis with no adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!) >> >> Cheers, >> Rev.Fever >> Portland,OR >> http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever >> >> On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> >>> Louie Angulo schrieb: >>>> the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to >>>> them >>>> only,they never sound wrong;-) >>>> >>> It's because all those keys are part of melodic minor (if going >>> from C# as the root). They've used it for centuries, did always >>> work. Same as the blues, only more antique. >>> >> --Apple-Mail-2-361735716 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Jan 6, 2011, at = 12:59 PM, Fabio_A wrote:

Mmmmm!  Whole tone = scales!  Mmmmm. Tasty! (and "mysterious" and damned easy to = play!)

It = isn't. 
c-d-e-f#-g#-a# is a whole-tone = scale.

I know that, and the above, = along with the other WT scales have mostly  been a breeze for me to = play once I figured them out which took only seconds to do = so.. 
But, maybe that's just me? (Or....?) =  :-)

-f ya want some serious (but = wonderful) overkill on the intricacies etc of music, then read the bio = of Gyorgy Ligeti, entitled 'Gyorgy Ligeti: Music of the = Imagination". 
(2003. Richard Steinitz, author) The = majority of the book is dedicated to some *very meticulous* study = and analysis of all of Ligeti's known and published, performed, recorded = works. Much of this went WAY over my head but it was still *very = fascinating* reading, along with reading and learning about the = equally fascinating and *intense* life of Ligeti = himself. 
The book was published and released when Ligeti = was still alive. He sadly passed away a small few years later. But = hey...what a LIFE and what a GENIUS!  However, I = digress....

PPS- Oh, one more thing. Ligeti = also wrote scores for the piano, as well. Taking a look at some of those = scores will just about take your head off!  Intense!  Very few = people have been able to perform these scores = accurately.


-fabio


And also, what that infamous = ol' "Devil's Triad", eh?  (AKA- = "Tritone")

'According to tradition, the tritone = was called the Devil's Chord or the Diabolis in Musica, a sound = so dissonant and so puissant it was believed to be capable of = raising the Lord of Hell himself.  For this reason, in it's = irrationality, the Roman Catholic Church banned the Devil's Triad, on = pain of excommunication.  Today, of course, bands such as = Metallica and Black = Sabbath  use the tritone on a regular basis with no = adverse effects.' (Har! Funny!)

Cheers,
Portland,OR
Louie Angulo schrieb:
=
the one thing i love about = black keys is that when you stick to them
  
It's because all those keys are part of melodic = minor (if going from C# as the root). They've used it for centuries, did = always work. Same as the blues, only more antique.
Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:24:11 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050300090604030807090201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Rick Walker > wrote: > > I made it to first chair in the school band on clarinet > > Pics or it didn't happen. > Well, I have them, Jeff, but your mother is naked in them. Shall I post them on FaceBook as well? You make the call......................:-) r. --------------050300090604030807090201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Larson wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> I made it to first chair in the school band on clarinet

Pics or it didn't happen.

Well, I have them, Jeff, but your mother is naked in them.
Shall I post them on FaceBook as well?

You make the call......................:-)

r.
--------------050300090604030807090201-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 22:24:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EB4418347C; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D264121.1020904@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:24:33 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louie Angulo CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:24:42 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them > only,they never sound wrong;-) > cheers > Luis ahhh, Pentatonics!!! r. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 22:33:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD26A18347A; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D264343.8020602@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:33:39 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rainer Straschill CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) References: <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:33:49 +0000 (UTC) I yield to the maestro with great respect! I always disclaim with my relative level of ignorance, by the way. Musings are sometimes efficacious, however, and I started out really, as a drummer, which is why I'll venture out with an opinion. You never can tell when it will be helpful. Nice points, Rainer! The huge one I missed is the octave organization which is vastly clearer on the piano than the guitar. Honestly, I prefer looking at harmony on a piano rather than a guitar, though I did learn a little bit about the former first. It is because of this octave orientation and the spacial orientation of chords. Also, I should have qualified my statement about the white keys as a point of departure. What I meant was that I learned how to spell chords and play various and sundry scales (most of them ethnic originally when they actually fit onto a chromatic western instrument) using C as a beginning point. Of course, one needs to know more than 7 notes to play even a lot of pop music, so sorry for the seeming naivity of that point. Sorry I wrote that so quickly without a proof read. Thanks for catching it. Now, how is your guitar playing coming along? It's a blast, isn't it? I won't be a Gismonti in this lifetime, I'm afraid, but there is music in that thing, isn't there? rick walker On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > (all of my statements describe my personal learning experiences here, > which might differ from those of others, and actually be > counter-intuitive or even inefficient): > Piano is very neatly organized in octaves, and how fingering stays > constant from octave to octave, which the guitar is not so much, at > least not intuitively (the major 3rd between G and B string doesn't > help here...). However, the guitar is (with the exception of the major > 3rd...) more consistent with intervals, e.g. 2 frets = one tone, 1 > string up 1 fret back = major 4rd etc, which the piano is not (unless > you're counting keys, which, due to the white/black logic, is not the > intuitive way to perceive it). On the piano, the step from the goal to > play a certain chord to fingering the right keys is chord -> intervals > -> notes -> fingering, i.e. from "maj7 on B" you go via "major third, > minor third, major third" to "B D# F# A#" to the actual hand position. > And this works well in all keys (and imo it actually helps if you > start doing so early on). And btw, you'll have a hard time even > playing standard pop/rock/blues chords when sticking with white keys. > Let's say you want a blues - do it in A (because its similar to > Aeolian), so you have the chords Am (works fine), Dm (works fine), Am > (works fine), E7 - buggers. Same if you play major (in C), and then > want to emphasise the tonic's double role as the subdominant's > dominant by adding a 7... > > That being said - I'm mostly curious about the "guitarists who later > picked up piano and are famous for both" suggestions! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 22:38:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13F2D183476; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:38:10 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:38:16 +0000 (UTC) > Rainer said "Amateur Gismonti" Rainer, isn't that an oxymoron? When I saw him, and its been many years, I was in awe . Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 23:02:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0387718347B; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=L77MtWIT0HQc3NtdHdKLMtBm7lynHO2xmA+ReOrtDYg=; b=f6+tGi4TsXQsV5xI/kBsEPYyMT0GtdkK6SLo9a4AaLM/2IM/7zCD5eDfamm1DN6tKD acMlKtsWGukMvacJs7/70JreU484RkLRf5FVWgP0+LjKj6WRchmzQvZhSmhRc2oKMpdH RPbUACKQhcFDzLNUWdttJTsr5y4hfs7drfV0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=K0RlkqrPDM/M6IC9s+dP8paCZEo4Amv/A7fDgyqo5GSXVpixKWgblSJ9bbrwtdJwXg ATkbka7CEReUixjaSO0L9llycF5pFVZ8/xF/VN0qFjOBdn8Xsd302db1kEDZ6YXAHfSE J/K0LiXIhB7IPHnpPKOCIishGXr/vkp2fWed8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D261AE3.3090903@googlemail.com> References: <4D260AD4.3090308@cruzio.com> <4D26171E.2010905@googlemail.com> <4D261AE3.3090903@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:02:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) - post scriptum From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:02:18 +0000 (UTC) or an open tuning then voli=E1 one finger fretting and you wont sound wrong ask Keith Richards;-) Luis On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Louie Angulo schrieb: >> >> the one thing i love about black keys is that when you stick to them >> only,they never sound wrong;- > > Same think works if on a guitar, you omit the B string and only use open > string or even-numbered frets. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 6 23:31:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95A1118347A; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1Ri4VSfQYnRS9aflQwdnSyULyw3JXwOQ0WQmEJZP90s=; b=yBbDo/JkmxbukNajxS2rs+UmXUim+98dQnL5LVVSk3BDiDrSEcLOvkBNUzZQrUBNJO xb+tN16lvSuvlGrdliqimXA+Ss1HNCGNEGRFHeVH6YBSpAC9iguD8goWEAX0FiYQZwu0 ljmA9YJd06GZ+i1Cd0TT9aoa3Svc3lKtvQ1cc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XGLVH7xa1rgkTQBLTeUwwcQC6C7yIaiAXmiexJj0lKOmP8Ee2rbjFquRLg1U3fKBqd GYB+J7eXPLAP8V1W9aIPR3aqhFjILXeB+wCcphL0UnDhKkn7WMNDCJNdXx2/GG8PGNRN YOS0ikLgOhphVbWj22gOdPtv3azIo3rf3uJ4w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:31:12 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Matt's Eclectic and/or Experimental World of Wonder (podcast) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I posted a new episode of my podcast, if anyone's interested in such things: http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/ 0) Opening Chimes 1) Biosphere "Spindrift" (from "Shenzhou", 2002) 2) Juana Molina "Yo Se Que" (from "Tres Cosas", 2004) 3) Peter Whitehead "First Village Dance (from "Giselle", 2003) 4) Phonophani "Neverdal" (from "Kreken", 2010) 5) Castanets "Cathedral 2 (Your Feet On The Floor Sounding Like The Rain)" (from "Cathedral", 2004) 6) Tapani Varis "Munniharppuna (The Oral Harpoon)" (from "Jews Harp", 1998) 7) Blue Water White Death "This is the Scrunchyface of my Dreams" (from "Blue Water White Death", 2010) 8) Viktor Vaughn (aka MF Doom) "Fall Back/Titty Fat" (from Venemous Villian, 2004, produced by 9th Wonder) 9) Juan Pablo Caceres "La Cuerda" (from "Orquestra", 2005) 10) Getatchew Mekurya "Shellela Besaxophone" (From "Negus of Ethiopian Sax - Ethiopiques, Vol. 14", 2004 - originally from the late 50s.) 11) Susana and the Magical Orchestra "Enjoy the Silence" (from "Melody Mountain", 2006) 12) Steven Baker "Radio Below" (from "Lunar Etudes", 2009) 13) Quasimoto "Real Eyes" (from "The Unseen", 2000, produced by Madlib) 14) Marcelo Fabian "Sed De Mal" (from "ZZK Sound Vol. 1 Cumbia Digital", 2008) 15) Juliana Barwick "The Highest" (from "Flourine", 2009) -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From NguyenTP@amstd.com Thu Jan 6 23:52:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2935 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at hemlock; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:52:36 UTC Received: from mail.amstd.com (mail.amstd.com [222.73.20.199]) by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D409183473 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shacnms22.amstd.apac.dir ([170.205.162.7]) by mail.amstd.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:03:35 +0800 Received: from BDGVNMS21.amstd.apac.dir ([170.205.138.8]) by shacnms22.amstd.apac.dir with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:01:33 +0800 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBADF5.A82E5E8A" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: Loan Offer, Contact Email: allianceloancustomercare@live.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 06:01:31 +0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Loan Offer, Contact Email: allianceloancustomercare@live.com Thread-Index: Acut9ad5SYm1V8wSSpineG2N32m0+g== From: "Phong, Nguyen Thanh" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2011 23:01:33.0587 (UTC) FILETIME=[A9B31630:01CBADF5] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-8.0.0.1181-6.500.1024-17878.002 X-TM-AS-Result: Yes-5.734500-4.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBADF5.A82E5E8A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ? =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBADF5.A82E5E8A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01CBADF5.A82E5E8A-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 00:32:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6D1A183479; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D265F09.5000400@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:32:09 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:32:14 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on the Finnish band Nemesis. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Sky Archeology" on Freeride Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jan Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 01:59:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B332118347A; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 01:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0OrfTuBW43AAio5CfKLZ8dQAxVZobfAZsv0E1s98zy0=; b=d3ZSd9f3YynrRYNf/Ak0h9QbC6r5EXwgMLj+A5N+fTacpAp2/HcVRBY29vBGPxlZR+ ts+bCQX6b11a5pLsY8T5zfCbx2nlhypJew8CRG/JnAFJBeSB6gpjQwdQBz24LpZZftuu SKm6DYYjPsnvaPG1gV74YjJKPct4Dg/yiC/EQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=V+0PJnyYSK0mNA4moexNQg0ZAnIL4uxeh8J573X3pL2NwtxDOucYgIbKXhUAOA/fi9 7JBxg3Pdj6iy2JKMB9G4JsUUIEmaHEehazQ4nuJ/Q2sKEET6WuNaKbCnJkOSmVFP3XiW I5iBxTjQ+ZbWqohFuLvsydzwJxtRuNZzp2UYI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:59:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Matt's Eclectic and/or Experimental World of Wonder (podcast) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 01:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Excellent Matt, I really enjoyed that for my evening soundtrack. j On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Hi all, > > I posted a new episode of my podcast, if anyone's interested in such things: > http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/ > > 0) Opening Chimes > 1) Biosphere "Spindrift" (from "Shenzhou", 2002) > 2) Juana Molina "Yo Se Que" (from "Tres Cosas", 2004) > 3) Peter Whitehead "First Village Dance (from "Giselle", 2003) > 4) Phonophani "Neverdal" (from "Kreken", 2010) > 5) Castanets "Cathedral 2 (Your Feet On The Floor Sounding Like The > Rain)" (from "Cathedral", 2004) > 6) Tapani Varis "Munniharppuna (The Oral Harpoon)" (from "Jews Harp", 1998) > 7) Blue Water White Death "This is the Scrunchyface of my Dreams" > (from "Blue Water White Death", 2010) > 8) Viktor Vaughn (aka MF Doom) "Fall Back/Titty Fat" (from Venemous > Villian, 2004, produced by 9th Wonder) > 9) Juan Pablo Caceres "La Cuerda" (from "Orquestra", 2005) > 10) Getatchew Mekurya "Shellela Besaxophone" (From "Negus of Ethiopian > Sax - Ethiopiques, Vol. 14", 2004 - originally from the late 50s.) > 11) Susana and the Magical Orchestra "Enjoy the Silence" (from "Melody > Mountain", 2006) > 12) Steven Baker "Radio Below" (from "Lunar Etudes", 2009) > 13) Quasimoto "Real Eyes" (from "The Unseen", 2000, produced by Madlib) > 14) Marcelo Fabian "Sed De Mal" (from "ZZK Sound Vol. 1 Cumbia > Digital", 2008) > 15) Juliana Barwick "The Highest" (from "Flourine", 2009) > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 02:52:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAA1818347A; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 02:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D264101.8000003@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D264101.8000003@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-381420122 Message-Id: Cc: Jeff Larson From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:51:56 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 02:52:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11-381420122 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Rick Walker = wrote: >> > I made it to first chair in the school band on clarinet >>=20 >> Pics or it didn't happen. >>=20 > Well, I have them, Jeff, but your mother is naked in them. > Shall I post them on FaceBook as well? >=20 > You make the call......................:-) > =20 No need, I found one on the intertubes. http://www.circularlabs.com/rickclarinet.gif =09 --Apple-Mail-11-381420122 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Larson wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> I made it to first chair in the school band on clarinet

Pics or it didn't happen.

Well, I have them, Jeff, but your mother is naked in them.
Shall I post them on FaceBook as well?

You make the call......................:-)
     

No need, I found one on the intertubes.




--Apple-Mail-11-381420122-- From au22bis@neuf.fr Fri Jan 7 09:03:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 406 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at hemlock; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:03:16 UTC Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr (smtp21.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.4]) by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F032D183473 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp12.services.sfr.fr (msfrf1201 [10.18.28.51]) by msfrf2115.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DD8A67000C2E for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:56:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf1201.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3ECD9700008B; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:56:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from wsfrf1227 (wsfrf1227 [10.18.28.41]) by msfrf1201.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 260117000088; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:56:09 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20110107085609155.260117000088@msfrf1201.sfr.fr From: Reply-To: To: koicedorse@yahoo.fr Message-ID: <19050129.106121294390569148.JavaMail.www@wsfrf1227> Subject: salut MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7156_28388737.1294390569146" X-SAVECOPY: true X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-CCI: |~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~||~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:56:09 +0100 (CET) ------=_Part_7156_28388737.1294390569146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=A0 Si aujourd'hui mon message de correspondance vous est adress=C3=A9 c= 'est parce que j'ai voulu avoir plus de relation pour les =C3=A9changes d'i= d=C3=A9e, de propos, pour discuter, dialoguer et surtout le rencontre On m'appelle zozochallote, je suis b=C3=A9ni noise =C3=A2g=C3=A9e de 20 an= s, mais r=C3=A9sidant =C3=A0 Cotonou (kalavie) je suis c=C3=A9libataire .Je= suis me nageuse . Je serai heureuse de savoir que vous acceptez ma corresp= ondance.=20 Merci de m'=C3=A9crire ------=_Part_7156_28388737.1294390569146 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



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------=_Part_7156_28388737.1294390569146-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 09:11:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE1EC18347B; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=V+Q5tSzH9qgAv//rME1r/BDBaqZmgEgNpp5yuIbe3WY=; b=Es1/aIcweSMKyJrb84ksuCpP/FSmgrclGaRpTxzLke4TsXI5LjhsSqzhAqU63gi9Kd n+jUeVFCyFWDS85YzcxRWD45j7EsdTi567uWQxTf1gogmJGOqqDJeihWHMeqGCpmG22M Wk3RidxsL8LB16uAw5b/PxJ3Gx/w1flvNr/NQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=asBbFhFPCsudQunJIY7vANKbQu3lfdiOZ0tLvxedLkHA91VhpLu79Cle6PSTjzGYVg JYHBqd/VJ1JGUd+DJNaLBSBbGzr3lelgz+fUeOqySbp7J3Mn0Ewqhxg9sf49FyaylcQv fOzavhX5gY0WNjODCadAD2PHL85dnT2uAq7/E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D264101.8000003@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:11:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:11:16 +0000 (UTC) man Jeff,thats just the Jimmi Hendrix of the clarinet! (need a red hair afro though) On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> I made it to first chair in the school band on clarinet > Pics or it didn't happen. > > Well, I have them, Jeff, but your mother is naked in them. > Shall I post them on FaceBook as well? > > You make the call......................:-) > > > No need, I found one on the intertubes. > http://www.circularlabs.com/rickclarinet.gif > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 09:28:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31B0A18347A; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+SCYCLH8U2fl+KOz8KkvRJRDysitvsveWDt8rMoqCrE=; b=ikast4lY5szcCKs672gq1rhgt8k/0fOSL0ZyyifbC5YM7GdaP70a7dqO5rQSPhIFrb rZFuSvDAffu5GmpYWOF72KaBhiXzrNdyym+mcUtVjdApQasY6EB37Pev7epJVJuRKib5 pdG10alOZpQUHF9O2RaDnUlHzQutAhUVJFybU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fWLtgjHscobyM+XslC1TW5SNfFl4VW2WZ04OHXqas8VsWPKZ/3j251ERufloZRSz0i W0yM1Vlq32uLrHKj4HWnc3Cz+U6ZFgpfpWORuWjesi0mwfmOH/v7VnFMS8u+bYeKxGyx SbV0f0iDWCAmE/JngNCRVucylgrRqwwTkl728= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:28:48 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: loop windowing in mobius From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f2e01c8704993e3ed7 Resent-Message-ID: <-v1dd.A.3CD.RztJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:28:49 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f2e01c8704993e3ed7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 just had a thought you could achieve a similar sound to loop windowing on the edp by using shuffle if you write a script that has shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 then you'll just hear the first 16th of the loop over and over if you then do shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 then you'll hear the second etc etc if you then do a bounce of one of those 16ths onto a new track, you can multiply it up if you want to, but as you havn't actually changed the length of the loop, you could just overdub new material as normal, or use divide etc the trick would be stepping through these different shuffle patterns, rather than having a separate script on 16 separate buttons. i suppose it's doable if you shuffle in 8ths, then you could have a bank on your pedalboard set up to do it i don't know if you could use some if / then statements to select which shuffle to use - if the current granule is 1, then shuffle with granule 2 - something like this... shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 if current granule is 1 shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 endif if current granule is 2 shuffle 16 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 endif etc i know that's wrong, but you get the idea. if a variable could be assigned to each shuffle pattern, then you could say "if x=2" and assign a new value to x with each shuffle pattern dunno...just riffing...my scripting isn't good enough...jeff? per? sim --000e0cd404f2e01c8704993e3ed7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just had a thought

you could achieve a similar sound to loop windowi= ng on the edp by using shuffle

if you write a script that has
shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

then you'll just hea= r the first 16th of the loop over and over

if you then do

shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
then you'll hear the second

etc etc

if you then do a bou= nce of one of those 16ths onto a new track, you can multiply it up if you w= ant to, but as you havn't actually changed the length of the loop, you = could just overdub new material as normal, or use divide etc

the trick would be stepping through these different shuffle patterns, r= ather than having a separate script on 16 separate buttons. i suppose it= 9;s doable if you shuffle in 8ths, then you could have a bank on your pedal= board set up to do it

i don't know if you could use some if / then statements to select w= hich shuffle to use - if the current granule is 1, then shuffle with granul= e 2 - something like this...

shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,= 1,1
if current granule is 1
shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
en= dif
if current granule is 2
shuffle 16 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3
endif
etc

i know that's wrong, but you get the idea. if a var= iable could be assigned to each shuffle pattern, then you could say "i= f x=3D2" and assign a new value to x with each shuffle pattern

dunno...just riffing...my scripting isn't good enough...jeff? per?
<= br>sim

--000e0cd404f2e01c8704993e3ed7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 10:24:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0894718347C; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=c4axV8oVgHq11ObIzAsRL02ZbarY8e0Wmt89mo2oYvo=; b=jxFkUiw6kdybc7J3ClVxyGh01AONyzrbWBfzbdLJviK6E9SYXAFd+UvD0kzue/asOg t6mySZcHQpeUTVD5Tc422gnK2jueCMGAX/kgbQB1KPPmT13uevYyx7IRNGxZ0/I/U/4Z FE43/xGMSOBdqFwwxxcuqLNtZNhiPWlM+sGxQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=oZUJLUDib6YMeRJA64Gs1auq/bAoaqRd/YKeORAlAm1YjUCqlFkEoGH0MPSQTi1zBA /1huymrQ29JPQA+FGzJmNjAsjC4mhsWvyjwGCrQdLmq/DipTfbsQQIJ8KdSZGviq/yzb 8CUp5uuCz/QrrdaF9x2UbK/xzlfMpEh/8ZXhQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:24:18 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recording many parallel loops in one go (Re: more mobius scripting help please) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f25e39cb04993f0551 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:24:19 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f25e39cb04993f0551 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yes indeed! although i've only really just started investigating scripting, so i think i would probably learn the most! i'd love to hear what other people are up to as well....it's fascinating stuff sim On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > It would be really cool some time to have a Mobius clinic! Sit down > for a couple of hours and show each other what we use different > scripts for. > --000e0cd404f25e39cb04993f0551 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes indeed!

although i've only really just started investigating= scripting, so i think i would probably learn the most!

i'd love= to hear what other people are up to as well....it's fascinating stuff<= br>
sim

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:47 PM, P= er Boysen <perb= oysen@gmail.com> wrote:

It would be really cool some time to have a Mobius clinic! Sit down
for a couple of hours and show each other what we use different
scripts for.
--000e0cd404f25e39cb04993f0551-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 10:35:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 743FD18347C; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=UN6sgUFW6+yhgKXdWCzngRsDykB0Z2GIIw8zrjDNT/w=; b=Dx035lO88eVnSo/vfXQCAJbO6vGNz+gsZPL1qfmsibTaqdO+pGffEpSZnWkgIP90M7 dqnhRi19adNbdpscvllStRFB88dFu/nLgQQ7CY3Pw0SUBFsQASVJZbt08pnIIc8uxdxq 04mB8sc06KvTCvvzzPZFfrHx/nhtoXj8q4o48= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=wCwz6IdfLGG0yNG8cyX3ei3hWvOD2Xn2vgl/+MIszeLbSNCXh1Bi5MRmTcggV0JvLJ klz08KR/0+dk5QXLYY4GFvZhSG6S+dwC0K0d/y3o3PQkcUsQ9ueG5VN9P0eZ6vGu9DMn aDv9iMJEXFvs1shPQRB4TSoO205vTqJBBShNM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:34:57 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xgeTBJA_G1kQ4ALbVbjJVCpaAjA Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8816a4516004993f2c4c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:35:19 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8816a4516004993f2c4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cool.. gonna try this approach later.. thanks Simeon! On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > just had a thought > > you could achieve a similar sound to loop windowing on the edp by using > shuffle > > if you write a script that has > > shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 > > then you'll just hear the first 16th of the loop over and over > > if you then do > > shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 > > then you'll hear the second > > etc etc > > if you then do a bounce of one of those 16ths onto a new track, you can > multiply it up if you want to, but as you havn't actually changed the length > of the loop, you could just overdub new material as normal, or use divide > etc > > the trick would be stepping through these different shuffle patterns, > rather than having a separate script on 16 separate buttons. i suppose it's > doable if you shuffle in 8ths, then you could have a bank on your pedalboard > set up to do it > > i don't know if you could use some if / then statements to select which > shuffle to use - if the current granule is 1, then shuffle with granule 2 - > something like this... > > shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 > if current granule is 1 > shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 > endif > if current granule is 2 > shuffle 16 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 > endif > etc > > i know that's wrong, but you get the idea. if a variable could be assigned > to each shuffle pattern, then you could say "if x=2" and assign a new value > to x with each shuffle pattern > > dunno...just riffing...my scripting isn't good enough...jeff? per? > > sim > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8816a4516004993f2c4c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool.. gonna try this approach later.. thanks Simeon!

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@goog= lemail.com> wrote:
just had a though= t

you could achieve a similar sound to loop windowing on the edp by = using shuffle

if you write a script that has

shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,= 1,1,1,1,1

then you'll just hear the first 16th of the loop over = and over

if you then do

shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
then you'll hear the second

etc etc

if you then do a bou= nce of one of those 16ths onto a new track, you can multiply it up if you w= ant to, but as you havn't actually changed the length of the loop, you = could just overdub new material as normal, or use divide etc

the trick would be stepping through these different shuffle patterns, r= ather than having a separate script on 16 separate buttons. i suppose it= 9;s doable if you shuffle in 8ths, then you could have a bank on your pedal= board set up to do it

i don't know if you could use some if / then statements to select w= hich shuffle to use - if the current granule is 1, then shuffle with granul= e 2 - something like this...

shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,= 1,1
if current granule is 1
shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
en= dif
if current granule is 2
shuffle 16 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3
endif
etc

i know that's wrong, but you get the idea. if a var= iable could be assigned to each shuffle pattern, then you could say "i= f x=3D2" and assign a new value to x with each shuffle pattern

dunno...just riffing...my scripting isn't good enough...jeff? per?
<= br>sim




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e8816a4516004993f2c4c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 10:38:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1DAC18347C; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NaAYSeG7LY5FIjXY977YtjVXpnqG65Cfk1wmEn2fajU=; b=EsyzS8YVIgCH5qGMULWx/IgBp35VYulo+coZp50g/XnBZX8fSvR8H+HeO4WKgyX57O RsU04F/VatTGBdRNOidn2GmSKIwb4BcTVJLmxBJwJwovDIwkuAFSguRRXNu/jpyJ8j/j aGR0jkUfvnpMzpsPoX8IYlDEfNWp2+CmTPinE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=XjlvYAcTrWdsweEpqLqtdD7rk76dXFsCawTjw7+ySDajFMf6be8xPdu8H3qb/em1Ug wSDsrhyZLKmg3gFVjCX67tnJScOU9EaKd4g0buDg4mywO16YXW56NoPz/+B3H0Lvzr3S T/j+gn4/DuzvWFc0lZNfFSjZ2bA8ZcSndl4uI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:38:44 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5d056fd001404993f3816 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:38:46 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5d056fd001404993f3816 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i havn't tested this mark, so please let us know how you get on with it! On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:34 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Cool.. gonna try this approach later.. thanks Simeon! > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> just had a thought >> >> you could achieve a similar sound to loop windowing on the edp by using >> shuffle >> >> if you write a script that has >> >> shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 >> >> then you'll just hear the first 16th of the loop over and over >> >> if you then do >> >> shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 >> >> then you'll hear the second >> >> etc etc >> >> if you then do a bounce of one of those 16ths onto a new track, you can >> multiply it up if you want to, but as you havn't actually changed the length >> of the loop, you could just overdub new material as normal, or use divide >> etc >> >> the trick would be stepping through these different shuffle patterns, >> rather than having a separate script on 16 separate buttons. i suppose it's >> doable if you shuffle in 8ths, then you could have a bank on your pedalboard >> set up to do it >> >> i don't know if you could use some if / then statements to select which >> shuffle to use - if the current granule is 1, then shuffle with granule 2 - >> something like this... >> >> shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 >> if current granule is 1 >> shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 >> endif >> if current granule is 2 >> shuffle 16 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 >> endif >> etc >> >> i know that's wrong, but you get the idea. if a variable could be assigned >> to each shuffle pattern, then you could say "if x=2" and assign a new value >> to x with each shuffle pattern >> >> dunno...just riffing...my scripting isn't good enough...jeff? per? >> >> sim >> >> > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > --000e0cd5d056fd001404993f3816 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i havn't tested this mark, so please let us know how you get on with it= !

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:34 AM, mark f= rancombe <ma= rk@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Cool.. gonna try = this approach later.. thanks Simeon!

<= br>
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Simeon Harris <= span dir=3D"ltr"><simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
just had a though= t

you could achieve a similar sound to loop windowing on the edp by = using shuffle

if you write a script that has

shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,= 1,1,1,1,1

then you'll just hear the first 16th of the loop over = and over

if you then do

shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
then you'll hear the second

etc etc

if you then do a bou= nce of one of those 16ths onto a new track, you can multiply it up if you w= ant to, but as you havn't actually changed the length of the loop, you = could just overdub new material as normal, or use divide etc

the trick would be stepping through these different shuffle patterns, r= ather than having a separate script on 16 separate buttons. i suppose it= 9;s doable if you shuffle in 8ths, then you could have a bank on your pedal= board set up to do it

i don't know if you could use some if / then statements to select w= hich shuffle to use - if the current granule is 1, then shuffle with granul= e 2 - something like this...

shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,= 1,1
if current granule is 1
shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
en= dif
if current granule is 2
shuffle 16 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3
endif
etc

i know that's wrong, but you get the idea. if a var= iable could be assigned to each shuffle pattern, then you could say "i= f x=3D2" and assign a new value to x with each shuffle pattern

dunno...just riffing...my scripting isn't good enough...jeff? per?
<= br>sim




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://= www.looop.no

--000e0cd5d056fd001404993f3816-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 10:46:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8F6818347B; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dFea8VmNG2GvZsptuihNXfHZm6MJU83hp1xe+c31hV0=; b=szrSa9x2GnXMsUgdKi+nnbwDnWjWYA8pIbrjLt9pKn8Day2QOvfJtWllXHoBCSgJa6 qCpElsF3a2+v+P9fAMLiiRQEZ7xCjepnW98tY2bPNBM8jB/UkiKztolTQuNizPw+2mhO jSBG8ZnVlFHy2HIUrksve/a4mWBcc0fWt871c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Y8+iWVD/BHZJVoDqThbxiccEcsFWtkyM6Xor5VrlrUVbMzX2B9uvaJpLnhquP2m2BO DibBbk3UKBjndgtBnitI4yvjX0bpClBbwRaC6M8OwHd+TyLdyZ20vLnbm8DVbx1h/MLf DWnnNV7WSWVQ8LAes7cE/228UdIkguso87SqY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:46:56 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: another mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f2483a8004993f5692 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:46:57 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f2483a8004993f5692 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i'm currently using this method to create "rechian" loops record onto track 1 copy track 1 onto track 2 and pan track 1 left and track 2 right run a sequencer in bidule to send a midi note once per cycle to cause track 2 to slip forward by one 8ths per cycle if 8ths per cycle is set to 16, then you get some nice rhythmic variations. if it's set to 127, then you get a gradual slippage (more like steve reich stuff) i'm thinking this is a bit flaky though and a more elegant solution (to me) would be to actually chop a chunk off the end of loop 2 to make it shorter. the result will sound the same (although loop 2 will be moving backwards relative to loop 1, instead of forwards, but adding a chunk to the end of loop 2 will create a small chunk of silence) is there a way to to this with a script? can you delete a piece off the end of a loop that's one 8ths per cycle long? sim --000e0cd404f2483a8004993f5692 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'm currently using this method to create "rechian" loops
=
record onto track 1
copy track 1 onto track 2 and pan track 1 left a= nd track 2 right
run a sequencer in bidule to send a midi note once per = cycle to cause track 2 to slip forward by one 8ths per cycle

if 8ths per cycle is set to 16, then you get some nice rhythmic variati= ons. if it's set to 127, then you get a gradual slippage (more like ste= ve reich stuff)

i'm thinking this is a bit flaky though and a mo= re elegant solution (to me) would be to actually chop a chunk off the end o= f loop 2 to make it shorter. the result will sound the same (although loop = 2 will be moving backwards relative to loop 1, instead of forwards, but add= ing a chunk to the end of loop 2 will create a small chunk of silence)

is there a way to to this with a script? can you delete a piece off the= end of a loop that's one 8ths per cycle long?

sim
--000e0cd404f2483a8004993f5692-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 10:54:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93DAB18347C; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=dCr1TTynRDSNxH3dd6FQwco9zGGbMZvyOwAqdT63yQs=; b=YMSAU0HCPkEtcVLCI6Wd4Y+ed0k0v2jBh+RTaVKsMwXBToICeJZgG3uNJ2zmuqkx8X RrcT5qeyY1vOA/Wn27xttlr1JUk2oT5qGOLKrgGzWa1ZhDKp7BNk89nhzQ58m2BphhPN XB+49jBBoDQoFrNR4pG4lIjtayoiHHv8GNe+g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=DM+27XYREQWiNSVQFZl3Rqp9UmJ5zeTgL+zYtoF+roEZ9KR4kWTN7SPoH8UfGjLfSR v7bi0aEWRufSXKsWNg6jIT2t8wyi4k1coHjn2trm7ykKiQLA3a+Cib+R8TLnsW60W7Ua y9UhSltTH49MfjKO++mPyEaGFbJ0/5TlIsnok= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:53:45 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ub1gt0K4-ixLRtqDPwAcw8mXUFw Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8a4cd6af7604993f6f15 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:54:07 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8a4cd6af7604993f6f15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, But I can already see some advancements. 1) (code I can nick from something Per once gave me I think) Check What the current 8th setting is and skip to a bit of code that will d= o that (instead of just 16th) 2) Difine the 1=B4s and 2=B4s as a variables that change depending on how m= any times you hit the pedal.. cancelled and reset by hitting any OTHER pedal. 3) (This I dont know) So that ONE hit will always loop the granule you are in right now, and continue FROM that point. (Instead of always starting at the start of the loop) Mark On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > i havn't tested this mark, so please let us know how you get on with it! > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:34 AM, mark francombe w= rote: > >> Cool.. gonna try this approach later.. thanks Simeon! >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Simeon Harris < >> simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> just had a thought >>> >>> you could achieve a similar sound to loop windowing on the edp by using >>> shuffle >>> >>> if you write a script that has >>> >>> shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 >>> >>> then you'll just hear the first 16th of the loop over and over >>> >>> if you then do >>> >>> shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 >>> >>> then you'll hear the second >>> >>> etc etc >>> >>> if you then do a bounce of one of those 16ths onto a new track, you can >>> multiply it up if you want to, but as you havn't actually changed the l= ength >>> of the loop, you could just overdub new material as normal, or use divi= de >>> etc >>> >>> the trick would be stepping through these different shuffle patterns, >>> rather than having a separate script on 16 separate buttons. i suppose = it's >>> doable if you shuffle in 8ths, then you could have a bank on your pedal= board >>> set up to do it >>> >>> i don't know if you could use some if / then statements to select which >>> shuffle to use - if the current granule is 1, then shuffle with granule= 2 - >>> something like this... >>> >>> shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 >>> if current granule is 1 >>> shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 >>> endif >>> if current granule is 2 >>> shuffle 16 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 >>> endif >>> etc >>> >>> i know that's wrong, but you get the idea. if a variable could be >>> assigned to each shuffle pattern, then you could say "if x=3D2" and ass= ign a >>> new value to x with each shuffle pattern >>> >>> dunno...just riffing...my scripting isn't good enough...jeff? per? >>> >>> sim >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8a4cd6af7604993f6f15 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, But I can already see some advancements.

1) (code I can nick fro= m something Per once gave me I think)
Check What the current 8th setting= is and skip to a bit of code that will do that (instead of just 16th)

2) Difine the 1=B4s and 2=B4s as a variables that change depending on h= ow many times you hit the pedal.. cancelled and reset=A0 by hitting any OTH= ER pedal.

3) (This I dont know) So that ONE hit will always loop th= e granule you are in right now, and continue FROM that point. (Instead of a= lways starting at the start of the loop)

Mark

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM,= Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
i havn't tested this mark, so please let us know how you get on with it= !


On Fr= i, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:34 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Cool.. gonna try = this approach later.. thanks Simeon!


On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Simeon Harris <= span dir=3D"ltr"><simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
just had a though= t

you could achieve a similar sound to loop windowing on the edp by = using shuffle

if you write a script that has

shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,= 1,1,1,1,1

then you'll just hear the first 16th of the loop over = and over

if you then do

shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
then you'll hear the second

etc etc

if you then do a bou= nce of one of those 16ths onto a new track, you can multiply it up if you w= ant to, but as you havn't actually changed the length of the loop, you = could just overdub new material as normal, or use divide etc

the trick would be stepping through these different shuffle patterns, r= ather than having a separate script on 16 separate buttons. i suppose it= 9;s doable if you shuffle in 8ths, then you could have a bank on your pedal= board set up to do it

i don't know if you could use some if / then statements to select w= hich shuffle to use - if the current granule is 1, then shuffle with granul= e 2 - something like this...

shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,= 1,1
if current granule is 1
shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
en= dif
if current granule is 2
shuffle 16 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3
endif
etc

i know that's wrong, but you get the idea. if a var= iable could be assigned to each shuffle pattern, then you could say "i= f x=3D2" and assign a new value to x with each shuffle pattern

dunno...just riffing...my scripting isn't good enough...jeff? per?
<= br>sim




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://= www.looop.no




--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
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Yours sincerely, Rev.Father James noah From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 11:42:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF9B218347C; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m5PtOzwkehI78yTvH64ZnDvs8DfBIFyrEsgDnFKXYtg=; b=wa9T4vZtCPDReIMaN5TbWeqzrlkm1s3/CRQ8yGZeS3ipXBtCmxEh9s3tn6ADJvSchR ohvayNRwqxXdKvQXWYc7YHr6BiWcem9CM9fnVs9GISqmvK37G8tOW4JMHr3g7U29jrMX +97r8zSidUM8C3cUGi2QcDd0PH1PI68vOiujI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=oleuJA8xm4HLHmvqeF7R/87Hc22V0x39Su7YtqQc1ROAVQH2Vg3d4F0GofV4Bu0Ti7 qXT8NuXXB7SLSXXYq/A3g2zovSxcuXS07Q7+OwlzJZYvGrpH8xEDdbb8OkMHbiRMHa7A jsW9QPXOqPIZV/OX9IcdqU8JNFQyDxedzos9s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:42:28 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6b2ccdea79b0499401c0f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:42:30 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6b2ccdea79b0499401c0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, genius! larson, we need you, sensei! On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:53 AM, mark francombe wro= te: > OK, But I can already see some advancements. > > 1) (code I can nick from something Per once gave me I think) > Check What the current 8th setting is and skip to a bit of code that will > do that (instead of just 16th) > > 2) Difine the 1=B4s and 2=B4s as a variables that change depending on how= many > times you hit the pedal.. cancelled and reset by hitting any OTHER pedal= . > > 3) (This I dont know) So that ONE hit will always loop the granule you ar= e > in right now, and continue FROM that point. (Instead of always starting a= t > the start of the loop) > > Mark > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> i havn't tested this mark, so please let us know how you get on with it! >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:34 AM, mark francombe = wrote: >> >>> Cool.. gonna try this approach later.. thanks Simeon! >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Simeon Harris < >>> simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> just had a thought >>>> >>>> you could achieve a similar sound to loop windowing on the edp by usin= g >>>> shuffle >>>> >>>> if you write a script that has >>>> >>>> shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 >>>> >>>> then you'll just hear the first 16th of the loop over and over >>>> >>>> if you then do >>>> >>>> shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 >>>> >>>> then you'll hear the second >>>> >>>> etc etc >>>> >>>> if you then do a bounce of one of those 16ths onto a new track, you ca= n >>>> multiply it up if you want to, but as you havn't actually changed the = length >>>> of the loop, you could just overdub new material as normal, or use div= ide >>>> etc >>>> >>>> the trick would be stepping through these different shuffle patterns, >>>> rather than having a separate script on 16 separate buttons. i suppose= it's >>>> doable if you shuffle in 8ths, then you could have a bank on your peda= lboard >>>> set up to do it >>>> >>>> i don't know if you could use some if / then statements to select whic= h >>>> shuffle to use - if the current granule is 1, then shuffle with granul= e 2 - >>>> something like this... >>>> >>>> shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 >>>> if current granule is 1 >>>> shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 >>>> endif >>>> if current granule is 2 >>>> shuffle 16 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 >>>> endif >>>> etc >>>> >>>> i know that's wrong, but you get the idea. if a variable could be >>>> assigned to each shuffle pattern, then you could say "if x=3D2" and as= sign a >>>> new value to x with each shuffle pattern >>>> >>>> dunno...just riffing...my scripting isn't good enough...jeff? per? >>>> >>>> sim >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mark francombe >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> twitter @markfrancombe >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.looop.no >>> >> >> > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > --000e0cd6b2ccdea79b0499401c0f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, genius!

larson, we need you, sensei!

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:53 AM, mark francombe &= lt;mark@markfrancombe.com>= wrote:
OK, But I can alr= eady see some advancements.

1) (code I can nick from something Per o= nce gave me I think)
Check What the current 8th setting is and skip to a bit of code that will d= o that (instead of just 16th)

2) Difine the 1=B4s and 2=B4s as a variables that change depending on h= ow many times you hit the pedal.. cancelled and reset=A0 by hitting any OTH= ER pedal.

3) (This I dont know) So that ONE hit will always loop th= e granule you are in right now, and continue FROM that point. (Instead of a= lways starting at the start of the loop)

Mark


On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Simeon Harris &= lt;simeo= nharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
i havn't tested this mark, so please let us know how you get on with it= !


On Fri, Jan 7, 201= 1 at 10:34 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> = wrote:
Cool.. gonna try = this approach later.. thanks Simeon!


On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Simeon Harris <= span dir=3D"ltr"><simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
just had a though= t

you could achieve a similar sound to loop windowing on the edp by = using shuffle

if you write a script that has

shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,= 1,1,1,1,1

then you'll just hear the first 16th of the loop over = and over

if you then do

shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
then you'll hear the second

etc etc

if you then do a bou= nce of one of those 16ths onto a new track, you can multiply it up if you w= ant to, but as you havn't actually changed the length of the loop, you = could just overdub new material as normal, or use divide etc

the trick would be stepping through these different shuffle patterns, r= ather than having a separate script on 16 separate buttons. i suppose it= 9;s doable if you shuffle in 8ths, then you could have a bank on your pedal= board set up to do it

i don't know if you could use some if / then statements to select w= hich shuffle to use - if the current granule is 1, then shuffle with granul= e 2 - something like this...

shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,= 1,1
if current granule is 1
shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
en= dif
if current granule is 2
shuffle 16 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3
endif
etc

i know that's wrong, but you get the idea. if a var= iable could be assigned to each shuffle pattern, then you could say "i= f x=3D2" and assign a new value to x with each shuffle pattern

dunno...just riffing...my scripting isn't good enough...jeff? per?
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--000e0cd6b2ccdea79b0499401c0f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 11:48:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BF5118347C; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8pzZ7Te4IcS0a2vNcg6LbX9s1Dzp2KpLFTbevuIm6oM=; b=HxEv9Jli75KK9ojtQnQUoCtHhVRXe4TyykoFm6ytMguRlEfzuMF0nUyfcyw5/JjnRZ VdkoFtX4KHbViejEGOmDidlbivVsxI7sk51kOSWt+Nm60j08clCfA0SeHjaA8BnMPvCw KY569qzvAwGHODqMCfConrq+B3o5yZZw3INJI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HCjz9IcJiM/hn5U+q82v2qYnRYp8TuHRKW8BTuVcSq3WQtwWMly+jAQenAs7qxvMy0 91hbcOngRikpsVwIqUjKU13pXnnzHTde4fG9ISllW5oUAUnIyAb9kEpuimOww6ypbeCZ ZUaR5BTuOsOUgAubojzk5cL6CQaSWX6OFFqIQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:48:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:48:14 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:53 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > OK, But I can already see some advancements. > > 1) (code I can nick from something Per once gave me I think) > Check What the current 8th setting is and skip to a bit of code that will= do > that (instead of just 16th) > > 2) Difine the 1=C2=B4s and 2=C2=B4s as a variables that change depending = on how many > times you hit the pedal.. cancelled and reset=C2=A0 by hitting any OTHER = pedal. > > 3) (This I dont know) So that ONE hit will always loop the granule you ar= e > in right now, and continue FROM that point. (Instead of always starting a= t > the start of the loop) I suspect the code you have in mind are these two Shuffle This/That scripts, pasted in below. I just want to put them up here as well so anyone interested can follow the discussion. The idea was to get something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP, since I never liked having to truncate down the longer loop to a short snippet in order to get Loop Windowing happening and I also often found it to be a bit too much of randomness (sometime resulting in less good cut-outs - gave a sour taste of "Cubase Interactive Phrase Synthesizer" ;-)) But I admit I have not been able to find a musical use for these shuffle scripts yet. I can't help thinking that Mobius UNDO does the job equally well and with a lot less fuzz. I mean, you can even skip over parts of your UNDO history - sort of "throw them into the bin". And all by only two pedals in use... well maybe you need three: Undo, Redo, Checkpoint. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub ________________________________ !name Shuffle That Wait cycle if 8thsPerCycle =3D 16 Shuffle 16 9,u,u,u,13,u,u,u,5,u,u,u,1,u,u,u endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 64 Shuffle 32 9,u,u,u,13,u,u,u,29,u,u,u,1,u,u,u,17,u,u,u,25,u,u,u,5,u,u,u,21,u= ,u,u,5,u,u,u,1,u,u,u endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 9 Shuffle 9 5,u,u,u,u,1,u,u,u endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 36 Shuffle 9 5,u,u,u,u,1,u,u,u endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 10 Shuffle 10 5,u,u,u,u,1,u,u,u,u endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 40 Shuffle 20 10,u,u,u,u,1,u,u,u,u,15,u,u,u,u,5,u,u,u,u endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 12 Shuffle 6 3,u,u,1,u,u endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 48 Shuffle 12 7,u,u,10,u,u,1,u,u,4,u,u endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 14 Shuffle 7 1,u,u,4,u,6,u endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 56 Shuffle 14 1,u,u,u,u,u,7,u,u,u,11,u,u,u end ________________________________ ________________________________ !name Shuffle This Wait cycle if 8thsPerCycle =3D 16 Shuffle 16,r endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 64 Shuffle 16,r endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 9 Shuffle 9,r endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 36 Shuffle 9,r endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 10 Shuffle 10,r endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 40 Shuffle 10,r endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 12 Shuffle 12,r endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 48 Shuffle 12,r endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 14 Shuffle 14,r endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 56 Shuffle 14,r endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 9 Shuffle 9,r endif if 8thsPerCycle =3D 54 Shuffle 9,r endif end ________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 11:59:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93097183479; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gn7sZ9UhT+pea/5s9VhAduuqYJ4tvJW5kbr22PGkUs8=; b=dbokSDrywnj8+woGjrUAQfhyoZSHXXN/5DJiLp8OC4yN5jScUY1IpKzFZXJoJThm8p XnArlegda/Vya50awlY+q06WaXDO3yKRLEMq6c/YI6vSAv5vMprXRT8K2nwifZZipZNN apTaL1IpprBckiF3F+J5JEmLQ6Z5n31Le8HeM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N8bK/aAjTi+Y0HtvPlqOfTOvVTWbQxHR2uTV4VuZfJ7lnvLwLfYn00qu/ntj4IbOCi iSL/5ng9NIsBN3m0llDrrdliaaYME23apwc+uxioISvbdyEuk7XQob79QQs/fuVRvj/3 QshuoMcbuB/hRBtgGQzi7n34bmNkVcXaYnOVE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:59:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:59:22 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i'm thinking this is a bit flaky though and a more elegant solution (to me) > would be to actually chop a chunk off the end of loop 2 to make it shorter. > the result will sound the same (although loop 2 will be moving backwards > relative to loop 1, instead of forwards, but adding a chunk to the end of > loop 2 will create a small chunk of silence) > > is there a way to to this with a script? can you delete a piece off the end > of a loop that's one 8ths per cycle long? 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--0-847700678-1294401830=:27571-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 12:04:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EDCF183480; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ia/OO/F59bS7zdPWH11+GjW8wVG+SQNHVPQLz9vjHvQ=; b=q6qxlK8BruIGX94WFH1jjI5G2tIjBvcQmbq+VTSeOsGd6s7eRzbNmq8NYMKq4QKGc+ JAz/SXozVKoNsSFaTSM1BlEFuWc9kr3rQG3W0qs0Gfefe1+FGZgz3IPNETVdxWdrvQH1 6HcEKS4kNdomulUnNx1fBzK0SoBZpunKR1aHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=gZAFTqzgW2RdeW5sAb34VFxUa4OHfIaCyWr8JcLTWoM+NzEyEBYGyCEvuIISO7xGgs +3ouO9PytkuKf8l+NfIDUFVB6gNqjFdnLbM0kXs8JLtDUT5nKf0kCpWxaYoKKG68YbG8 816IswWSassoQouylmmO3ExYh2AhIooOeCYRY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:04:47 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f2b0982a0499406ca1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:04:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f2b0982a0499406ca1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i've never used an EDP though, so this is a bit of a mystery to me, i'm afraid i'd like to put it into a script though, as i have a button on my control surface available and i'd like to hit that button to truncate the loop by one 8ths per cycle value (whatever it happens to be at the time) sim On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > i'm thinking this is a bit flaky though and a more elegant solution (to > me) > > would be to actually chop a chunk off the end of loop 2 to make it > shorter. > > the result will sound the same (although loop 2 will be moving backwards > > relative to loop 1, instead of forwards, but adding a chunk to the end of > > loop 2 will create a small chunk of silence) > > > > is there a way to to this with a script? can you delete a piece off the > end > > of a loop that's one 8ths per cycle long? > > No need for scripting there. Truncating a loop on-the-fly is the same > basic action combination as with the EDP: Multiply finished by > Record. With this combo you can cut down a loop into a very short > slice if you like. Fun to tap dance on this in combination with Undo > and Redo. > > Per > > --000e0cd404f2b0982a0499406ca1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i've never used an EDP though, so this is a bit of a mystery to me, i&#= 39;m afraid

i'd like to put it into a script though, as i have a= button on my control surface available and i'd like to hit that button= to truncate the loop by one 8ths per cycle value (whatever it happens to b= e at the time)

sim

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:59 AM, = Per Boysen <per= boysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> i'm thinking this is a bit flaky though and a more elegant solutio= n (to me)
> would be to actually chop a chunk off the end of loop 2 to make it sho= rter.
> the result will sound the same (although loop 2 will be moving backwar= ds
> relative to loop 1, instead of forwards, but adding a chunk to the end= of
> loop 2 will create a small chunk of silence)
>
> is there a way to to this with a script? can you delete a piece off th= e end
> of a loop that's one 8ths per cycle long?

No need for scripting there. Truncating a loop on-the-fly is the same=
basic action combination as with the EDP: =A0 Multiply finished by
Record. With this combo you can cut down a loop into a very short
slice if you like. Fun to tap dance on this in combination with Undo
and Redo.

Per


--000e0cd404f2b0982a0499406ca1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 12:06:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0067183488; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=KS0Kh1wg3H6eXFhrXsx98ArZRvRIHD9GNoIf90TE574=; b=ETNioGvr0oB7XwdmYKe4Tzpct4TKHf+DdystBpChT1BBe0p+FlB9LMvVSVpd6/wWQg BIOIJuqDMiO/TSeghAjnYzsyznRftAC9XFR6nRlaPRp5HTz5TXPYkQkOVAcJIET6ueDz XJmiL405mW+zQUaUcWljq3ylA1Dj/7XWA1nB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=HVO+kKdB2jWNDhzQaZv4DE9qmrqwc17FRp4BM238+krf9G5jrMRjogT580ZBrRh+6E 4jsj6CUd8B5BTzWgW4QYovrgScSo5YKrmixPadBXH4qtE6QyzBARDxQD1Idmps7F0Jxn KIMxdRl/grogVJ3ms9Ll40oQyqL53Ix7KDuZk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:06:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5sjRHoYWCIuvzX_1g6UBDCiJkzA Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e89b078c20f04994072df Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:06:25 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e89b078c20f04994072df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > The idea was to get > something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP > This is blasphemy in my book!!!! Your shuffle scripts are used by me very much, or at least the idea behind them, I have made some less random sounding ones that just rearrange stuff a bit, and one cool one tha kinda plays backwards... So what we need now, is the ability to set variables and count how many times the same command is sent consecutively, so we can change the code on each press. Completely Do-able I would say... I think that Larsen guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures of me on Facebook, and more time coding. !! http://www.facebook.com/stenovetoft#!/photo.php?fbid=10150111445674524&set=at.10150111445349524.325326.666149523.570925068 -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e89b078c20f04994072df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
The idea was to get
something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP
This is blasphemy in my book!!!!


Your shuffle scripts are used = by me very much, or at least the idea behind them, I have made some less ra= ndom sounding ones that just rearrange stuff a bit, and one cool one tha ki= nda plays backwards...

So what we need now, is the ability to set variables and count how many= times the same command is sent consecutively, so we can change the code on= each press.

Completely Do-able I would say...

I think that L= arsen guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures of me on Faceboo= k, and more time coding. !!
http://= www.facebook.com/stenovetoft#!/photo.php?fbid=3D10150111445674524&set= =3Dat.10150111445349524.325326.666149523.570925068
--
mark francombe
www.markf= rancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.co= m
twitter @markfrancombe
= http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e89b078c20f04994072df-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 12:20:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFFBC183492; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z5HnH9rz/gVo+M4XeqInPwz2j3Ch4aPrkTT3OyRtMO8=; b=XndIf4esgLETLH8U/RUxAwoGPJh9pOXi9lmcC2UzA9lgEu3m1wVwDkrhTKSZK4xLpZ 2GyquIKuDEOquUJzgTcHy6YmR5l95mc8HKplJ9s1ipmWIscAFgoP2eeRIdmINWHCQnSA UMyKYvm0vIgSiPFvdK2RSeCulxDy5qVvJAjpc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qGd2yTZRPcHYtFN2Sa+bCHKxyYypcAwHB690zZ4ZUVjSgBdMx28QBkJEmhDKT00mNQ rzpLA+gr9qiVesq/waTAx1GIlwpr62Enmc6p9Hia7aL0N+iN/BixsRMUn4TQVyl/shPf RpVWEm/R2x8LAAzOQ7md3n3F/Bw25ZvMccVts= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:20:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:20:53 +0000 (UTC) That should be perfectly possible to script. Sorry, but I don't have the time to construct it now. I never learned scripting, just mocked up whatever I needed by trial and error. One scripting concept could be to start out Multiply, then use a bunch of "wait subcycle" lines undil throwing in Record when the script arrives to the next last subcycle. But that would always create a loop of a new lenght; one subcycle shorter than a cycle. I guess you want your magic button to work also on longer loops of several cycle's lenghts? Then a more mathematical approach would come in handy... maybe using Instant Divide and Instant Multiply in the script? I do a lot of this stuff by physically stepping the Instant Divide and Instant Multiply buttons so I guess it would work in a script too. I typically combine the coefficients 3 and 4 to truncate a loop into a slightly longer or shorter loop. I can't see the math now though for how to make that end up as exactly one 8th Per Cycle shorter. Per On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i've never used an EDP though, so this is a bit of a mystery to me, i'm > afraid > > i'd like to put it into a script though, as i have a button on my control > surface available and i'd like to hit that button to truncate the loop by > one 8ths per cycle value (whatever it happens to be at the time) > > sim > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >> > i'm thinking this is a bit flaky though and a more elegant solution (t= o >> > me) >> > would be to actually chop a chunk off the end of loop 2 to make it >> > shorter. >> > the result will sound the same (although loop 2 will be moving backwar= ds >> > relative to loop 1, instead of forwards, but adding a chunk to the end >> > of >> > loop 2 will create a small chunk of silence) >> > >> > is there a way to to this with a script? can you delete a piece off th= e >> > end >> > of a loop that's one 8ths per cycle long? >> >> No need for scripting there. Truncating a loop on-the-fly is the same >> basic action combination as with the EDP: =C2=A0 Multiply finished by >> Record. With this combo you can cut down a loop into a very short >> slice if you like. Fun to tap dance on this in combination with Undo >> and Redo. >> >> Per >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 12:33:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8EDD183499; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D270826.1040805@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 04:33:42 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Larson CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Jeff Larson Subject: Re: Re: Piano lessons advice (O.T.) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:33:51 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > No need, I found one on the intertubes. > > http://www.circularlabs.com/rickclarinet.gif Be afraid, be very afraid!!!!!! 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2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C7F918347E; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D271F14.2010502@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:11:32 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #718 for January 6, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:11:36 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110106.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #718 January 6, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Nemesis. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Live Archive Volume 1" which is a self-released title. Nemesis: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jan PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Broekhuis, Keller, Tranzz08 In Repelen (Manikin) and Schonwalder Rainbow Serpent and Intense Stranger (Manikin) Isgaard Rainbow Serpent and Elements 1 Stranger (Manikin) Isgaard Rainbow Serpent and Elements 2 Stranger (Manikin) Isgaard MorPheuSz Between the Days of Delerium and Nocturnal Barriers of Reality Nightmares (Groove) Create Fanfare of Dreams We Live By the Machines (Groove) Amongst Myselves Smell of the Sun Fragments (none) Nemesis Nautilus Live Archive Vol. 1 (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Nemesis Greenland Live Archive Vol. 1 (none) Nemesis Vertical Horizon Live Archive Vol. 1 (none) Nemesis Xcelsis Live Archive Vol. 1 (none) Nemesis Mindsweeper Live Archive Vol. 1 (none) Nemesis Messier 104 Live Archive Vol. 1 (none) Nemesis Improkrator Live Archive Vol. 1 (none) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Nemesis. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Live Archive Volume 2" which is a self-released title. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 14:22:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD86118347C; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 558513025/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.176.158/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.176.158 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuUBABuwJk1V0rCe/2dsb2JhbAAMlgzLIIVMBI4b X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,289,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="558513025" Message-ID: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:22:59 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another mobius question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Simeon Harris wrote: > but adding a chunk to > the end of loop 2 will create a small chunk of silence) using Multiply to change the length wouldn't add silence, just a repeat of the first chunk. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 14:24:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F27C183480; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vpj3yz8nmasmZo3gVVqDTK052yl1KdMRkKD4I4vdRc0=; b=WN4d4/uiGhPwVePEYX3NUXbXNtv9iAnp6NyRi9wcgyv7uTpvsZBxHKMOEshaAnVZoo HIsJkjHl2XTpgX8m7L+HnnCKcjM6G+qYcULPqTzHfxX8PbeZDivzvXSdKmh+Fueg5C9b 5GhsmvLjZb4Ijhye6ET5yjvd1YDXBTWCVj87I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Q/iK/001nAaqeVm2ZUz1li84A/fN8cyxyIMuTbZ7x+4bHoqtEISGawvXKipTNwRm9L 0kyL7sheU0PEhEq8uK7tXbeEMHPQvZpvc4po/FudZtmvzg6VS6V8i2BmBhDCvGrtq/ls wpavrJaRCsbRfr8zQRI1Fxmz29R3K/h0+POGc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:24:23 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f2f3b9040499425fb0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:24:24 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f2f3b9040499425fb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ah, thank you for the correction andy. still undesirable though...i'd rather lop a bit off still don't know how to do it though...! On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:22 PM, andy butler wrote: > > > Simeon Harris wrote: > > but adding a chunk to the end of loop 2 will create a small chunk of >> silence) >> > > using Multiply to change the length wouldn't add silence, > just a repeat of the first chunk. > > andy > > --000e0cd404f2f3b9040499425fb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ah, thank you for the correction andy.

still undesirable though...i= 'd rather lop a bit off

still don't know how to do it though= ...!

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:22 PM, andy= butler <akb= utler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


Simeon Harris wrote:

but adding a chunk to the end of loop 2 will create a small chunk of silenc= e)

using Multiply to change the length wouldn't add silence,
just a repeat of the first chunk.

andy


--000e0cd404f2f3b9040499425fb0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 14:27:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3DC8183481; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=iAAgEGlqBXxI/dhenmE/NykTy+noC5+SX8AMmOaI1bA=; b=vLem0uYRsuvNvnjMGBMKTTWi0ngchXZGGY5fVBrZovQcBIksRBGHXaLiUQ4IExrlAg tmnrylxWiBYuQl6Tyz5JM7C3PQwIcaNjOnm1m8Uczivrf5DiMUgN4wwRJfV0GcEywl86 35LEQAYpzvfAteoUh4fusOn/4o7NdASX9IiKM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=GKb0MrdJsJN4PVIWDv9WwR+uKNxL+IxpJDnz7yMJpLH8Kv3YEQDltVqH1TbFZEEXGg 9JjiSjkEU2ybf18aodOLqjxqNWlLcmoy7r+gvgGbalDlqm7ym3rqImTAxg/+hwwq7CQG 7cMefqmGRmfyzcJ8rbOsBfqrxAnY08yDEh1YM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:27:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: r1ckGQqjhKJTBF27JSdBmjX-kXU Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a67394bc70499426c43 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:27:50 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a67394bc70499426c43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Per told you.. in EDP lingo... Make loop then to shorten it, hit multiply, then record. this will chop the loop shorter at the record. But this is the toe tapping method, for your use, scripts are ness I think... Mark On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > ah, thank you for the correction andy. > > still undesirable though...i'd rather lop a bit off > > still don't know how to do it though...! > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:22 PM, andy butler wrote: > >> >> >> Simeon Harris wrote: >> >> but adding a chunk to the end of loop 2 will create a small chunk of >>> silence) >>> >> >> using Multiply to change the length wouldn't add silence, >> just a repeat of the first chunk. >> >> andy >> >> > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549a67394bc70499426c43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per told you.. in EDP lingo...
Make loop
then to shorten it, hit mult= iply, then record. this will chop the loop shorter at the record. But this = is the toe tapping method, for your use, scripts are ness I think...

Mark






On Fri, Jan = 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> = wrote:
ah, thank you for= the correction andy.

still undesirable though...i'd rather lop= a bit off

still don't know how to do it though...!


On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:22 PM, = andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


Simeon Harris wrote:

but adding a chunk to the end of loop 2 will create a small chunk of silenc= e)

using Multiply to change the length wouldn't add silence,
just a repeat of the first chunk.

andy





--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf30549a67394bc70499426c43-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 14:31:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95E9A183480; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=6D3pJyVYsVkd3CgF3NTu/KQAzNH3vPNJ+1syuP03FuI=; b=Qq4dDBzIBhkxUASTts2Xe1LSXQV9rzevMoowitpvGDvkn6L/yNMtMdpa7HqqUa2k0R uADXQEg1a/Ifbt4oMD65NDWiRviIFbdFGhzQLMwZNXud7ZD1Z9LeEdm7gwQL+DgPam8l HeGpCs3Bpb4ynqrUt27MFqgv00QyFvlOx7Bx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=U/GguE/tpTp4R8EXwJf2e6rszGfencieQm525ut55FZse/d+Pb9bxtOCdAf5jO2JoR 2To2TMwhWSc3i1pPkZX6cQb3KZBBf0vu5V67VIUfhbBgsTDCXBAOCIhjWxLqiUC0+EE3 o01nUFFmcBJb7Q8HXH4mwFM02NsSpJkdOx058= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:31:37 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yJ9v4gJ_-4UWsl7sAtg9XK4N41g Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a670822f90499427b00 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:31:58 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a670822f90499427b00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Isnt it something like (I dont know anything about scripting.. can you do this?) !name chop_short Multiply Wait cycle Wait cycle Wait cycle Wait cycle Wait cycle Wait cycle Wait cycle Record End On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Per told you.. in EDP lingo... > Make loop > then to shorten it, hit multiply, then record. this will chop the loop > shorter at the record. But this is the toe tapping method, for your use, > scripts are ness I think... > > Mark > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> ah, thank you for the correction andy. >> >> still undesirable though...i'd rather lop a bit off >> >> still don't know how to do it though...! >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:22 PM, andy butler wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Simeon Harris wrote: >>> >>> but adding a chunk to the end of loop 2 will create a small chunk of >>>> silence) >>>> >>> >>> using Multiply to change the length wouldn't add silence, >>> just a repeat of the first chunk. >>> >>> andy >>> >>> >> > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549a670822f90499427b00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Isnt it something like (I dont know anything about scripting.. can you do t= his?)

!name chop_short

Multiply
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Record

End


On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM, mark fra= ncombe <mark= @markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Per told you.. in EDP lingo...
Make loop
then to shorten it, hit mult= iply, then record. this will chop the loop shorter at the record. But this = is the toe tapping method, for your use, scripts are ness I think...

Mark







On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
ah, thank you for= the correction andy.

still undesirable though...i'd rather lop= a bit off

still don't know how to do it though...!

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:22 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


Simeon Harris wrote:

but adding a chunk to the end of loop 2 will create a small chunk of silenc= e)

using Multiply to change the length wouldn't add silence,
just a repeat of the first chunk.

andy





--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://= www.looop.no



--
mark francombewww.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markf= rancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf30549a670822f90499427b00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 14:37:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EECD18348A; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=qVHUNos1MZXoNKTrGrzsnCpdXJUrvflEiwxx2NHp+8w=; b=LLmltkzXoD7/LksRZJAoPRgv7WfZ2elh6CIcEe+9Q/7+y2kbQamRfcOBWiBhtr2bh3 yEMzrO2Swz13zaL4S2zetdTCUg+URs2aUtdGrhq2bm3qqVUfCVW6DlI3ZDzxrFfN1OwD +spCoT7oknJs0vjSVe/YA103Lm88DQH8k0iKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=TTmMEAZj+0JHkngPst2tTuB1uLqk2bkKzmE9ZoBGIT/eGQFPGP08JR5Vjz38TStmEu Cytin7+QQvS98sMi/EB68wsAy7knL62iksbpHe6sxggDR5B9QAR15jVbSkWPgGW/7h6H uq+Z3KJuApBTPL/cY1tuqyp0FXs6ln4eazbvI= References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-423735595 Message-Id: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:37:00 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:37:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-423735595 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Interesting discussion. I worked with shuffle function in the past, but I abandoned it 'cos I wasn't= able to get a pleasant musical result like the "scramble" function of the L= p1. I've never had an EDP, but I've read the manual a few times in the last year= s to get confident with the same functions in Mobius,=20 I do not have a direct experience on loop windowing, so please forgive me if= I say something wrong. Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or whateve= r per cycle setting. It's not the same as "divide", trim actions will create a new loop with a ne= w start or end point, defining a new loop lenght. I find it very useful and capable of nice musical results. Anyone tried it ? -fabio www.eterogeneo.com Il giorno 07/gen/2011, alle ore 13:06, mark francombe ha scritto: >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > The idea was to get > something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP >=20 > This is blasphemy in my book!!!! >=20 >=20 > Your shuffle scripts are used by me very much, or at least the idea behind= them, I have made some less random sounding ones that just rearrange stuff a= bit, and one cool one tha kinda plays backwards... >=20 > So what we need now, is the ability to set variables and count how many ti= mes the same command is sent consecutively, so we can change the code on eac= h press. >=20 > Completely Do-able I would say... >=20 > I think that Larsen guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures o= f me on Facebook, and more time coding. !! > http://www.facebook.com/stenovetoft#!/photo.php?fbid=3D10150111445674524&s= et=3Dat.10150111445349524.325326.666149523.570925068 > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no --Apple-Mail-2-423735595 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Interesting discussion.
I wor= ked with shuffle function in the past, but I abandoned it 'cos I wasn't able= to get a pleasant musical result like the "scramble" function of the Lp1.

I've never had an EDP, but I've read the manual a fe= w times in the last years to get confident with the same functions in Mobius= , 
I do not have a direct experience on loop windowing, so ple= ase forgive me if I say something wrong.

Did you try the "TRIM" commands ?
You can trim start p= oint and end point according to your 8th-16th or whatever per cycle setting.=

It's not the same as "divide", trim actions wi= ll create a new loop with a new start or end point, defining a new loop leng= ht.

I find it very useful and capable of nice music= al results.
Anyone tried it ?

-fabio=
www.eterogeneo.com<= /div>


Il giorno 07/gen/2011, alle ore 13:06, mark fran= combe <mark@markfrancombe.com> ha scritto:


On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Per Boysen= <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
The idea was to get
something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP

= This is blasphemy in my book!!!!


Your shuffle scripts are used by= me very much, or at least the idea behind them, I have made some less rando= m sounding ones that just rearrange stuff a bit, and one cool one tha kinda p= lays backwards...

So what we need now, is the ability to set variables and count how many t= imes the same command is sent consecutively, so we can change the code on ea= ch press.

Completely Do-able I would say...

I think that Larse= n guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures of me on Facebook, an= d more time coding. !!
http://www.facebook= .com/stenovetoft#!/photo.php?fbid=3D10150111445674524&set=3Dat.101501114= 45349524.325326.666149523.570925068
--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkh= ao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094<= /a>
http://www.l= ooop.no
= --Apple-Mail-2-423735595-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 14:40:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1B8E18348A; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yTkpeqoD+iOFdwXYLAXPjvBWHjfQxIGL7OYLuySwXr8=; b=cdZkoRadsmbeIlFXVWaQgxbkQADs9FKr6aFZNjD98neG6H8KVtPSrzY82tA9mIUF/u K1WILzGvmHUc+SiMeACCD9V+bUFAzFccpDbxHDTHDC3pKttp9OkPhL0lOtV1/fSLqreH cGRbyUAs8D3D/BJrtDWo36EJGGZtrVJ4lGJik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=gCQccuSp2U/wG3Y/pY9MRZ1RhmfpO4b6I0lumyCqaVslR2vkxeA/JY5Mml0o05OonI FcvF+mlig/XZtQk2CSTn5VyNrlHGY913T9IRFRIYp8GB1NPMGGI8gaANxhcvSE0XaS3L kcaGv5fYAa5Q2Nm8XgTHKO0GclHqAhATV3X4Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:40:47 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5d0569eb15b0499429a59 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:40:49 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5d0569eb15b0499429a59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ahh yes, i see! i think you can even use if/then statements to wait the number of cycles depending on the current 8ths per cycle value (a bit like per's shuffle scripts) i'll get my thinking cap on also wondering if this could be part of the copy script i have, so when i copy track 1 to track 2, it chops the end off track 2 at the same time - that would be neat sim On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:31 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Isnt it something like (I dont know anything about scripting.. can you do > this?) > > !name chop_short > > Multiply > Wait cycle > Wait cycle > Wait cycle > Wait cycle > Wait cycle > Wait cycle > Wait cycle > Record > > End > > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: > >> Per told you.. in EDP lingo... >> Make loop >> then to shorten it, hit multiply, then record. this will chop the loop >> shorter at the record. But this is the toe tapping method, for your use, >> scripts are ness I think... >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Simeon Harris < >> simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> ah, thank you for the correction andy. >>> >>> still undesirable though...i'd rather lop a bit off >>> >>> still don't know how to do it though...! >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:22 PM, andy butler wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Simeon Harris wrote: >>>> >>>> but adding a chunk to the end of loop 2 will create a small chunk of >>>>> silence) >>>>> >>>> >>>> using Multiply to change the length wouldn't add silence, >>>> just a repeat of the first chunk. >>>> >>>> andy >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > --000e0cd5d0569eb15b0499429a59 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ahh yes, i see!

i think you can even use if/then statements to wait = the number of cycles depending on the current 8ths per cycle value (a bit l= ike per's shuffle scripts)

i'll get my thinking cap on

also wondering if this could be part of the copy script i have, so when= i copy track 1 to track 2, it chops the end off track 2 at the same time -= that would be neat

sim


On Fri= , Jan 7, 2011 at 2:31 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:<= br>
Isnt it something= like (I dont know anything about scripting.. can you do this?)

!nam= e chop_short

Multiply
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Wait cycle
Record

End



On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM, mark fra= ncombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Per told you.. in EDP lingo...
Make loop
then to shorten it, hit mult= iply, then record. this will chop the loop shorter at the record. But this = is the toe tapping method, for your use, scripts are ness I think...

Mark







On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Simeon Harris &l= t;simeon= harris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
ah, thank you for= the correction andy.

still undesirable though...i'd rather lop= a bit off

still don't know how to do it though...!

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:22 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


Simeon Harris wrote:

but adding a chunk to the end of loop 2 will create a small chunk of silenc= e)

using Multiply to change the length wouldn't add silence,
just a repeat of the first chunk.

andy





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www.markfrancombe.com
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--000e0cd5d0569eb15b0499429a59-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 15:10:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3940C18347F; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=N86F64VREd1fEXrh/5LztMHXr290GM0iot6tvGnnHlQ=; b=L2h10BePjFrOFq6oAAICyimRgw147GCFMWe4wSV7AZ+wvSeVHL23H3DEceQwrgfZja Lx/wIztV4UQcG0ZKOSrwid8F1Ik/lNM+N1Sdbh0zrBtFT6QDKZWSrzbSYRi3RuajlTKk MVtRIMYRflZUdTbMJddy5CM8831c2+AMIKrVw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=sypAHxrkSAb9YstOpbd3CyCgejQPCdv2TUthQrr/HVUl0RVWC9AbAdzFDAjmCNAxt4 1PTKuwGNYEC2w6jz89P4yIsd55y5w0Z8hPu0SD+T6bV3+NiG+NkPFtxnueOj+aRlqxau KtnoHunEVehegWqC8bjWp+QxCgUi2FVa5gDUA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:10:02 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7yNcA4xFD7W-9QYSUSgTuPc3TbE Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e83846bf8610499430453 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:10:24 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e83846bf8610499430453 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes I had a look after you recommended it to me at SF airport Fabio! But doesnt Trim throw away the "trimmed" audio? We need trim, where you specify start and end points, but then MOVE the start and end points along the loop as it existed before... Mark On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Interesting discussion. > I worked with shuffle function in the past, but I abandoned it 'cos I > wasn't able to get a pleasant musical result like the "scramble" function of > the Lp1. > > I've never had an EDP, but I've read the manual a few times in the last > years to get confident with the same functions in Mobius, > I do not have a direct experience on loop windowing, so please forgive me > if I say something wrong. > > Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? > You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or > whatever per cycle setting. > > It's not the same as "divide", trim actions will create a new loop with a > new start or end point, defining a new loop lenght. > > I find it very useful and capable of nice musical results. > Anyone tried it ? > > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > Il giorno 07/gen/2011, alle ore 13:06, mark francombe < > mark@markfrancombe.com> ha scritto: > > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Per Boysen < > perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The idea was to get >> something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP >> > > This is blasphemy in my book!!!! > > > Your shuffle scripts are used by me very much, or at least the idea behind > them, I have made some less random sounding ones that just rearrange stuff a > bit, and one cool one tha kinda plays backwards... > > So what we need now, is the ability to set variables and count how many > times the same command is sent consecutively, so we can change the code on > each press. > > Completely Do-able I would say... > > I think that Larsen guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures of > me on Facebook, and more time coding. !! > > http://www.facebook.com/stenovetoft#!/photo.php?fbid=10150111445674524&set=at.10150111445349524.325326.666149523.570925068 > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e83846bf8610499430453 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes I had a look after you recommended it to me at SF airport Fabio!
Bu= t doesnt Trim throw away the "trimmed" audio?

We need tri= m, where you specify start and end points, but then MOVE the start and end = points along the loop as it existed before...

Mark

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, = Fabio_A <etero= genus@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting discussion.
I worked wi= th shuffle function in the past, but I abandoned it 'cos I wasn't a= ble to get a pleasant musical result like the "scramble" function= of the Lp1.

I've never had an EDP, but I've read the manual= a few times in the last years to get confident with the same functions in = Mobius,=A0
I do not have a direct experience on loop window= ing, so please forgive me if I say something wrong.

Did you try the "TRIM&quo= t; commands ?
You can trim start point and end point accor= ding to your 8th-16th or whatever per cycle setting.

It's not the same as "divide", trim actions will c= reate a new loop with a new start or end point, defining a new loop lenght.=

I find it very useful and capable of nice musical= results.
Anyone tried it ?

-fabio=


Il g= iorno 07/gen/2011, alle ore 13:06, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> ha sc= ritto:



On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 = PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
The idea was to get
something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP
This is blasphemy in my book!!!!


Your shuffle scripts are used = by me very much, or at least the idea behind them, I have made some less ra= ndom sounding ones that just rearrange stuff a bit, and one cool one tha ki= nda plays backwards...

So what we need now, is the ability to set variables and count how many= times the same command is sent consecutively, so we can change the code on= each press.

Completely Do-able I would say...

I think that L= arsen guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures of me on Faceboo= k, and more time coding. !!
http://www.facebook.com/stenovetoft#!/photo.p= hp?fbid=3D10150111445674524&set=3Dat.10150111445349524.325326.666149523= .570925068
--
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www= .markfrancombe.com
www.ordo= abkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http= ://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no



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twitter @markfrancombe
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On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Hi all, > > I posted a new episode of my podcast, if anyone's interested in such > things: > http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/ > > 0) Opening Chimes > 1) Biosphere "Spindrift" (from "Shenzhou", 2002) > 2) Juana Molina "Yo Se Que" (from "Tres Cosas", 2004) > 3) Peter Whitehead "First Village Dance (from "Giselle", 2003) > 4) Phonophani "Neverdal" (from "Kreken", 2010) > 5) Castanets "Cathedral 2 (Your Feet On The Floor Sounding Like The > Rain)" (from "Cathedral", 2004) > 6) Tapani Varis "Munniharppuna (The Oral Harpoon)" (from "Jews > Harp", 1998) > 7) Blue Water White Death "This is the Scrunchyface of my Dreams" > (from "Blue Water White Death", 2010) > 8) Viktor Vaughn (aka MF Doom) "Fall Back/Titty Fat" (from Venemous > Villian, 2004, produced by 9th Wonder) > 9) Juan Pablo Caceres "La Cuerda" (from "Orquestra", 2005) > 10) Getatchew Mekurya "Shellela Besaxophone" (From "Negus of Ethiopian > Sax - Ethiopiques, Vol. 14", 2004 - originally from the late 50s.) > 11) Susana and the Magical Orchestra "Enjoy the Silence" (from "Melody > Mountain", 2006) > 12) Steven Baker "Radio Below" (from "Lunar Etudes", 2009) > 13) Quasimoto "Real Eyes" (from "The Unseen", 2000, produced by > Madlib) > 14) Marcelo Fabian "Sed De Mal" (from "ZZK Sound Vol. 1 Cumbia > Digital", 2008) > 15) Juliana Barwick "The Highest" (from "Flourine", 2009) > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 15:47:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78F6618347E; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:references:from :content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=9vXBwk3QWsbOIjTPbQD90QbLNhUYF2+FwkzeQQ7smuo=; b=gWrIOS0YYs7FpgEG6ZTDtRwbRwCNtYngRAD0t9SvzmdDDvX1BjW6Ty7xOAOH6R+255 epDRTyginbptZCh23iaU0BgGejRG2o5EAs7EcXrzsaHf34NnvS0EirwKWfvGyGf0FOEF a/D/nNlhFT2I9aRiWFbQcEmfH4yG/EhwPgiNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=aDImzpZCbqFa+qH1Cg5sPzWoheLAoA39TgufjhInnq+arftfhL8TETM9J/fjlWPhKW 3VQ4mDllwnODH6JOF85auDLLKaIBWcNKDyDdA6p75Qgr9Ia+iCrFktI/qsbvLOunGhNg zDz0+cbFPjDxR82BOWCSDxNCPYO9LomLFo6So= Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-428010019 X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> Message-Id: <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:48:20 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: <1y8HEB.A.PhG.rWzJNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:47:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-428010019 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow, cross post fertilisation. I think trim may just solve my problem in the= other thread about how to chop off the end of a loop. Not having much luck m= ultiply + record... Sent from my iPod On 7 Jan 2011, at 14:37, Fabio_A wrote: > Interesting discussion. > I worked with shuffle function in the past, but I abandoned it 'cos I wasn= 't able to get a pleasant musical result like the "scramble" function of the= Lp1. >=20 > I've never had an EDP, but I've read the manual a few times in the last ye= ars to get confident with the same functions in Mobius,=20 > I do not have a direct experience on loop windowing, so please forgive me i= f I say something wrong. >=20 > Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? > You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or whate= ver per cycle setting. >=20 > It's not the same as "divide", trim actions will create a new loop with a n= ew start or end point, defining a new loop lenght. >=20 > I find it very useful and capable of nice musical results. > Anyone tried it ? >=20 > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com >=20 >=20 > Il giorno 07/gen/2011, alle ore 13:06, mark francombe ha scritto: >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> The idea was to get >> something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP >>=20 >> This is blasphemy in my book!!!! >>=20 >>=20 >> Your shuffle scripts are used by me very much, or at least the idea behin= d them, I have made some less random sounding ones that just rearrange stuff= a bit, and one cool one tha kinda plays backwards... >>=20 >> So what we need now, is the ability to set variables and count how many t= imes the same command is sent consecutively, so we can change the code on ea= ch press. >>=20 >> Completely Do-able I would say... >>=20 >> I think that Larsen guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures o= f me on Facebook, and more time coding. !! >> http://www.facebook.com/stenovetoft#!/photo.php?fbid=3D10150111445674524&= set=3Dat.10150111445349524.325326.666149523.570925068 >> --=20 >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no --Apple-Mail-1-428010019 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Wow, cross post fertilisation. I think t= rim may just solve my problem in the other thread about how to chop off the e= nd of a loop. Not having much luck multiply + record...

Sent from my i= Pod

On 7 Jan 2011, at 14:37, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting discussion.
I w= orked with shuffle function in the past, but I abandoned it 'cos I wasn't ab= le to get a pleasant musical result like the "scramble" function of the Lp1.=

I've never had an EDP, but I've read the manual a f= ew times in the last years to get confident with the same functions in Mobiu= s, 
I do not have a direct experience on loop windowing, so ple= ase forgive me if I say something wrong.

Did you try the "TRIM" commands ?
You can trim start p= oint and end point according to your 8th-16th or whatever per cycle setting.=

It's not the same as "divide", trim actions wi= ll create a new loop with a new start or end point, defining a new loop leng= ht.

I find it very useful and capable of nice music= al results.
Anyone tried it ?

-fabio=


Il gio= rno 07/gen/2011, alle ore 13:06, mark francombe <mark@markfrancom= be.com> ha scritto:



On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM= , Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
The idea was to get
something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP

= This is blasphemy in my book!!!!


Your shuffle scripts are used by= me very much, or at least the idea behind them, I have made some less rando= m sounding ones that just rearrange stuff a bit, and one cool one tha kinda p= lays backwards...

So what we need now, is the ability to set variables and count how many t= imes the same command is sent consecutively, so we can change the code on ea= ch press.

Completely Do-able I would say...

I think that Larse= n guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures of me on Facebook, an= d more time coding. !!
http://www.facebook.com= /stenovetoft#!/photo.php?fbid=3D10150111445674524&set=3Dat.1015011144534= 9524.325326.666149523.570925068
--
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= www.markfrancombe.com
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twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
= --Apple-Mail-1-428010019-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 16:06:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A40E18347E; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4h9xoFj1y5GdJUCyGSs5HVKEKNEqGUWOeft+jqujqnc=; b=SNy6kekdTEi3PiVCQiomYlrUUvm7qbvtknHeVX+ss63KbLhuqjmyhEV6DP6hJPIPfN M1N/DezTPJmTY6jzmFxC3JqYV2vYlMm8lY82DUntdckzZw41y5mtSWPp35bfQFlyRdvD x8tvQkZuHZIHhlZI/GuSCX1LLqjTo90NRSMa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=FV6Vh0Z3bxBLG3ntdvLyawT1HhBe70qvlH1yuRxOLOT1tAaz+7qnzafXRY+sWUWzll jmD5vuuI4pyqfzyZg8o8pQpW+9antUi2g05tkq60vqnQ4DnQY6zJ/pa0tlZ+2fcz3qTT AQo2x/r6ThRf2fZbfyafpKW3fW3TsbThT74LI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:06:01 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius From: Simeon Harris To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f268d938049943cb74 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:06:02 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f268d938049943cb74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 fabio - you said - Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or whatever per cycle setting. but in the manual it says trimend will trim from the current frame to the end. how do you get it to trim from the last 8th or 16th to the end? sim --000e0cd404f268d938049943cb74 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable fabio - you said -
Did you try the "TRIM" commands= ?
You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th= -16th or whatever per cycle setting.

but in the manual it says trime= nd will trim from the current frame to the end. how do you get it to trim f= rom the last 8th or 16th to the end?

sim

--000e0cd404f268d938049943cb74-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 16:10:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E064218347E; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BAQE6CLepavkjJ5PuuFVdaaHU1vyBoywkDogqKjs+lk=; b=x7Xbs24FO0y49xpLpDUZECjg6Jfgdr3Z7PijekBTaXCa4dumB4ptlZTF2dtv1DCHix lVUmARlcBczYFgaKurhNjNmfS20bMnqWgIc1TtJrI4l4b1A2l6PRcCpt27zBdp/WQLkZ x7oRg5bwClda1vkWHXAWq0bovSbxkF2ZZJ2qw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sLF/MALSdda37mCki4ssvEOsIpHKpHBMDrFWaR8esoSKY2WuxsK0w3OROokQ/NyKbF o2kcwW9DKkWQgEoulkDqDeAooUST1DD/xWPGEx/BwxuaSLILrdEsEFV/WGfU9T0GRFTY ECpowhLi+R6bmqg4ZJmZ4woYgTznt+PUdzxFs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:10:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Yes Fabio this is the way i was sort of emualting loop windowing and redo and undo work for me! cheers Luis On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Interesting discussion. > I worked with shuffle function in the past, but I abandoned it 'cos I wasn't > able to get a pleasant musical result like the "scramble" function of the > Lp1. > I've never had an EDP, but I've read the manual a few times in the last > years to get confident with the same functions in Mobius, > I do not have a direct experience on loop windowing, so please forgive me if > I say something wrong. > > Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? > You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or > whatever per cycle setting. > > It's not the same as "divide", trim actions will create a new loop with a > new start or end point, defining a new loop lenght. > I find it very useful and capable of nice musical results. > Anyone tried it ? > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > Il giorno 07/gen/2011, alle ore 13:06, mark francombe > ha scritto: > > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> The idea was to get >> something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP > > This is blasphemy in my book!!!! > > > Your shuffle scripts are used by me very much, or at least the idea behind > them, I have made some less random sounding ones that just rearrange stuff a > bit, and one cool one tha kinda plays backwards... > > So what we need now, is the ability to set variables and count how many > times the same command is sent consecutively, so we can change the code on > each press. > > Completely Do-able I would say... > > I think that Larsen guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures of > me on Facebook, and more time coding. !! > http://www.facebook.com/stenovetoft#!/photo.php?fbid=10150111445674524&set=at.10150111445349524.325326.666149523.570925068 > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 16:24:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E078618347C; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=49chldxsAnAhDjE0VeWqhO6LE5RCu1NKe3Sw4t2W2fw=; b=FNrg7UsWTgYdmTEBIQD6PrV8vfvKaXk6xkf4oiuuWT8E0+9/YHghdJJrWmsLJk0Hn0 Z9RUV9YkCaG/1MFTfoEJI4JZo+YS5tZyPxJjO++T6KgXUNXvhznl7gyPar8Iz4Odz8AJ Y6LItpZNdrwoTFe/thXRy3ihRpICcHWauV6Ss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=D/IPY2o8xsODwjfpbmqSIWp90KgrbFXl/ZKU9MDhaEsqbA4vTXAjXRmaq82QU6pmXv 7pQEplcM7ks2m/L4cotCRUNQWZt4lXYFvdAlcWN1cCuKV4L4TBRp0zKnxTlISkGZ+Oyd yopasUVjoY8gy/LZIP0rEs2G2vhJ/T1n46A3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:24:29 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius From: Simeon Harris To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a8d876abbe0499440d13 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:24:30 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a8d876abbe0499440d13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 the system variable "subcyclecount" exists. can this be used? On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > fabio - you said - > Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? > You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or > whatever per cycle setting. > > but in the manual it says trimend will trim from the current frame to the > end. how do you get it to trim from the last 8th or 16th to the end? > > sim > > --000e0cd6a8d876abbe0499440d13 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the system variable "subcyclecount" exists. can this be used?
=
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Simeon Harri= s <si= meonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
fabio - you said = -
Did you try the "TRIM" command= s ?
You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or whatev= er per cycle setting.

but in the manual it says trimend will t= rim from the current frame to the end. how do you get it to trim from the l= ast 8th or 16th to the end?

sim


--000e0cd6a8d876abbe0499440d13-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 16:41:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 924B518347A; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=j7kTnVNIld6vyE4l6scoZ9K+3qr+r8CM1XFEFoC5coY=; b=qzDN4pCr1tCB0TjHmb/fZ8DVkfu726wAMQJ+QHmYA8CM534utq8xxm64Q59E5a9G43 VCGs5uUPxMwKcBCGor7c3rWKBnntC0IJ0rUksU0Q5CWOW8cSV7zQEACD+eGSH8zv4lKQ Hn0HsokaAf+zsRbD5lkN1kZ5KlXv4BMHNsB+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=JIFvXFdvIVOeIu8eXNwntXJ6UbP056RhLkwwucpjfBjbH+Bt708pgA/W6/mibfeXM3 YQKmSWPMDREOw8P9pJAuuYQHLfCbNKZUPyFR7Fd3AkOkJKFvfz67G6S7AxBoHCtEHuOK y6X2SUjFV6HM46MkPT8ATiY5xhxLPuJsIpimk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:41:32 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius From: Simeon Harris To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f26bc1910499444ad5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:41:33 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f26bc1910499444ad5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 no, just discovered it's the total number of subcycles subcyclenumber looks like it could possibly be the one i'm trying to get this to work if subcyclenumber = 15 trimend endif to chop the last subcycle off a loop with 16, but it doesn't work any help out there? please? sim On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > the system variable "subcyclecount" exists. can this be used? > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> fabio - you said - >> Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? >> You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or >> whatever per cycle setting. >> >> but in the manual it says trimend will trim from the current frame to the >> end. how do you get it to trim from the last 8th or 16th to the end? >> >> sim >> >> > --000e0cd404f26bc1910499444ad5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no, just discovered it's the total number of subcycles

subcyclen= umber looks like it could possibly be the one

i'm trying to get = this to work

if subcyclenumber =3D 15
trimend
endif

to = chop the last subcycle off a loop with 16, but it doesn't work

any help out there?

please?

sim

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Simeon Harris &l= t;simeonharris40@googlemai= l.com> wrote:
the system variab= le "subcyclecount" exists. can this be used?


On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Simeon H= arris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
fabio - you said = -
Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or whatev= er per cycle setting.

but in the manual it says trimend will t= rim from the current frame to the end. how do you get it to trim from the l= ast 8th or 16th to the end?

sim



--000e0cd404f26bc1910499444ad5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 17:12:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B497B18347E; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=5vbawih0OYDbHaQQR9t069XTjPzy9rpttpMouGU26kU=; b=H6WdEOU16ieNGkO7F4Rfjrn5VrmDk4Os+yN9RTG8trImwoWnQVmQ5MzFM6MkFWmkp4 nbJw9+sPKQjntVrMxyz8sxC/HuQQtx0P1ScvADTugZKk6ojaN3WldjIGqFkdnMk9rKcp 2BOODYk531cgcoEiHejnW5poVjEscsRYRe2KE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=Dt11pgn1XQxtIeqnuPIttevzegOcEHPUiPT65wmJ8NFcZ/fulYuzDh6bqtv9ByRIfv eoq83SWlw1slLhgYiUlbvs7ZRa1kkBas5CK7qCWxdbuBCb2+X/n17qXFuLPx5LWqRJPb /cZwaJJCB484YQRX09YzDZ3tcrpsUWCLRPFhY= References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-433011364 Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:11:36 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:12:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-433011364 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Il giorno 07/gen/2011, alle ore 16:10, mark francombe ha scritto: > Yes I had a look after you recommended it to me at SF airport Fabio!=20 Yep ! > But doesnt Trim throw away the "trimmed" audio?=20 Yes, Mark >=20 > We need trim, where you specify start and end points, but then MOVE the st= art and end points along the loop as it existed before... I can see.... You can UNDO to get back to the original loop and then trim the loop again, b= ut you're right, you can't MOVE the start and end points along the loop. -f >=20 > Mark >=20 > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Interesting discussion. > I worked with shuffle function in the past, but I abandoned it 'cos I wasn= 't able to get a pleasant musical result like the "scramble" function of the= Lp1. >=20 > I've never had an EDP, but I've read the manual a few times in the last ye= ars to get confident with the same functions in Mobius,=20 > I do not have a direct experience on loop windowing, so please forgive me i= f I say something wrong. >=20 > Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? > You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or whate= ver per cycle setting. >=20 > It's not the same as "divide", trim actions will create a new loop with a n= ew start or end point, defining a new loop lenght. >=20 > I find it very useful and capable of nice musical results. > Anyone tried it ? >=20 > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com >=20 >=20 > Il giorno 07/gen/2011, alle ore 13:06, mark francombe ha scritto: >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> The idea was to get >> something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP >>=20 >> This is blasphemy in my book!!!! >>=20 >>=20 >> Your shuffle scripts are used by me very much, or at least the idea behin= d them, I have made some less random sounding ones that just rearrange stuff= a bit, and one cool one tha kinda plays backwards... >>=20 >> So what we need now, is the ability to set variables and count how many t= imes the same command is sent consecutively, so we can change the code on ea= ch press. >>=20 >> Completely Do-able I would say... >>=20 >> I think that Larsen guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures o= f me on Facebook, and more time coding. !! >> http://www.facebook.com/stenovetoft#!/photo.php?fbid=3D10150111445674524&= set=3Dat.10150111445349524.325326.666149523.570925068 >> --=20 >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no --Apple-Mail-3-433011364 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Il giorno 07/gen/2011, alle ore 16:10, mar= k francombe <mark@markfrancombe= .com> ha scritto:

Yes I had a look after you recommended it to me at SF a= irport Fabio!

Yep !

But doesnt Trim throw away the "trimmed" audio? <= br>

Yes, Mark
=

We need trim, where you specify start and end points, but then MOVE= the start and end points along the loop as it existed before...

I can see....
You can UNDO to get back to the o= riginal loop and then trim the loop again, but you're right, you can't MOVE t= he start and end points along the loop.

-f


Mark

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Fa= bio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:=
Interesting discussion.
I worked wit= h shuffle function in the past, but I abandoned it 'cos I wasn't able to get= a pleasant musical result like the "scramble" function of the Lp1.

I've never had an EDP, but I've read the manual a few ti= mes in the last years to get confident with the same functions in Mobius,&nb= sp;
I do not have a direct experience on loop windowing, so p= lease forgive me if I say something wrong.

Did you try the "TRIM" commands= ?
You can trim start point and end point according to your= 8th-16th or whatever per cycle setting.

It's not the same as "divide", trim actions will create a new loo= p with a new start or end point, defining a new loop lenght.

<= /div>
I find it very useful and capable of nice musical results.
Anyone tried it ?

-fabio<= /span>
www.eterogeneo.com


Il giorno 07/gen/2011, alle ore 13:06, ma= rk francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>= ; ha scritto:



On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM= , Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
The idea was to get
something better than Loop Windowing on the EDP

= This is blasphemy in my book!!!!


Your shuffle scripts are used by= me very much, or at least the idea behind them, I have made some less rando= m sounding ones that just rearrange stuff a bit, and one cool one tha kinda p= lays backwards...

So what we need now, is the ability to set variables and count how many t= imes the same command is sent consecutively, so we can change the code on ea= ch press.

Completely Do-able I would say...

I think that Larse= n guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures of me on Facebook, an= d more time coding. !!
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= --Apple-Mail-3-433011364-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 17:21:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B491918347D; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=n9tuXr2z4pFe3g/PduD/fAxXlQ9Jaf/Ry+5Mwfl1NWU=; b=DWNKMS9sbJb3zCzplUMh0BtBWAvXw4S2sIwA/71TsinhnRwAJJ14a+IFRQ5+NPk/gx ntPdubsviA/+xeNNZ8KasQncf6suapIVEbHF50JtleMVTlzLSwGLvT/in61+cmkD9u/S JOWAatgFNEGQbspo0fvTa/LSFdUxALFZJppC8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LrmxEN/BzA+QSXpbQ9lZfIjsHbrk2Cd61g/FPXNik9ZylhWZrMEO97mUxE/ghTFplQ JV7CbwQTdpDzdeD9XOyYi6MpSsFX43y8PC5OOoAnC0sVJ1Wzxuu3SfY2iqIM3kA4y9c4 qifFAerzapzcv52U1ZKqdr55597bjXrctBPjc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <156523663.994391.1294412703167.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <156523663.994391.1294412703167.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:21:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:21:08 +0000 (UTC) ---------------------------------------- I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you understand. To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If you are on the digest version of Looper's Delight, send your unsubscribe request to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will make fun of you and you will feel like a dork. ------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:05 AM, wrote: > can someone help me to unsubscribe? > > I tried the man's email that is taking care of =A0unsubscibing but=A0that= didnt > get me anywhere. > > > > Thanks > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 17:28:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60A6218347E; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <156523663.994391.1294412703167.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 12:28:26 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33069-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD7CA76C3AC556-C14-BA93A@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:28:46 +0000 (UTC) baby please don't go! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 17:37:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D08C318347E; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <9087F65F-7415-4142-B862-F2F662B7A1E7@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:37:44 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:37:51 +0000 (UTC) My goodness! It looks like we're making people unsubscribe with=20 all this crazy Mobius talk. Can I suggest we do this in the forum next time so it is captured for posterity and we won't frighten people? > On Jan 7, 2011, at 3:28 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > you could achieve a similar sound to loop windowing on the edp by = using shuffle > shuffle 16 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 > then you'll just hear the first 16th of the loop over and over Yes, and BTW you can just do this, the shuffle pattern will automatically replicate to fill out thenumber of slices. shuffle 16 1 > if you then do > shuffle 16 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 The trick is that you have to use Undo to return the the layer before the first shuffle, otherwise you'll be shuffling the layer that has 16 subcycle 1s in it, and it will end up=20 sounding the same. =20 > the trick would be stepping through these different shuffle patterns You would use a global varialbe to keep track of where you were in the shuffle pattern. This would actually be a relatively simple script, simpler than the Move and Wait scripts we discussed=20 briefly before. Let me read through this morning's email flood and I'll give it a shot. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 17:38:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD516183482; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=/++p5IVTn6cTfjxyOyvytJ06MHLIDb4IF/LERijMJU8=; b=cph8GPniM9KlB7MzlSSOHy8XE5iQNPWCncZBQ7XNpMNwsQLR/osW9fwT/r9JzudmWB sv8YmgMYATIlGtyFBrWq5Xd0voH7DJZg4VNfWEumHlfsbfITqpcImSC3igSRfPX+S9qC zrmI2Qpdo52eMEsvHxFb/tTKlKsdKNFiXwUSw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=Xs3dtTJ9vUOsIAZTBbdlvf8POvbYmy9Ps2YRAnEzI8Ugbl9RjKzmS8Mb0jRUB7kY5M HeuuExpR/1yQJev1dy4w59iyL0qII20oXVa9azgr3X/XggWGIjBoU/E6hPkLX/inJ/ZJ UTOEsl0aWaUDqgdCAtN7A991TbHt3ZP/OVbxo= References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <293DA656-F556-48C8-8738-FC9F4A2D165B@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:37:43 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Sim,=20 maybe I was wrong on how trim operates....sorry. That's because my music ne= eds a perfect timing, so I play with a metronome in my ears nowdays, and wh= en I push that button I trim the loop 'in time' (according to my 8th per cyc= le settings). > fabio - you said -=20 > Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? > You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or whate= ver per cycle setting. >=20 > but in the manual it says trimend will trim from the current frame to the > . how do you get it to trim from the last 8th or 16th to the end? Sorry, can't understand what exactly you want to get... 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 17:49:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86C0D18347E; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fIrXqnFdvYXjYQei7TonEjS0S1ZSgR5d4c9x+TULl28=; b=jcKyph0jVsB//SH8DYIxuufko4QX6PXaqxkCsRuntYEYk4d9RrvrTyvwlR/+oV1hev 2+rRBFiHcUf87qeUwW21WNYfcmuIIC4uyO28q9Qd6IRVuBeA+sRk5JEKe3G4JPwabvAQ b3X6x/JOI5/tri5f9LPk3THUQxw8b1Tc3akvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=SeBnqR+3S6e+DleSqiqYGS/I4MLmQp2hsao/coAZRzfF/uCcbwX+zo1JnQb58VB02a 4N9nBwNJcgN6c1yNl7mZsJUl2mAVdQ2OEqPk1F39kCqlcpg6cTuLJWCRVNfNyutqxhpN FwVKuAB2pJZiualqPBD9UDQBBM1mACa9AxwkE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <293DA656-F556-48C8-8738-FC9F4A2D165B@gmail.com> References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> <293DA656-F556-48C8-8738-FC9F4A2D165B@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:49:03 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f2f97ce20499453cba Resent-Message-ID: <-vp9qC.A.s3C.iI1JNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:49:22 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f2f97ce20499453cba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 if you hit trimend, it erases from the current frame to the end of the loop all well and good, but i'd like to trim from the last 15th to the end - EXACTLY erasing the last 16th of the loop. so i'd like to be able to automate it with a script. i'd like to be able to tell mobius to wait until the boudary of subcycle 15 appears and then execute the trimend command if mobius can keep track of which subcycle it's on (maybe with subcyclenumber) then it should be easy... sim On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Sim, > maybe I was wrong on how trim operates....sorry. That's because my music > needs a perfect timing, so I play with a metronome in my ears nowdays, and > when I push that button I trim the loop 'in time' (according to my 8th per > cycle settings). > > > fabio - you said - > > Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? > > You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or > whatever per cycle setting. > > > > but in the manual it says trimend will trim from the current frame to the > > > . how do you get it to trim from the last 8th or 16th to the end? > > Sorry, can't understand what exactly you want to get... > What do you mean with "trim from the last 8th or 16th to the end?" > > -f > > > > sim > > > > --000e0cd404f2f97ce20499453cba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if you hit trimend, it erases from the current frame to the end of the loop=

all well and good, but i'd like to trim from the last 15th to t= he end - EXACTLY erasing the last 16th of the loop. so i'd like to be a= ble to automate it with a script. i'd like to be able to tell mobius to= wait until the boudary of subcycle 15 appears and then execute the trimend= command

if mobius can keep track of which subcycle it's on (maybe with subc= yclenumber) then it should be easy...

sim

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrot= e:
Sim,
maybe I was wrong on how trim operates....sorry. That's =A0because my m= usic needs a perfect timing, so I play with a metronome in my ears nowdays,= =A0and when I push that button I trim the loop 'in time' (accordin= g to my 8th per cycle settings).

> fabio - you said -
> Did you try the "TRIM" commands ?
> You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or w= hatever per cycle setting.
>
> but in the manual it says trimend will trim from the current frame to = the

> . how do you get it to trim from the last 8th = or 16th to the end?

Sorry, can't understand what exactly you want to get...
What do you mean with "trim from the last 8th or 16th to the end?"= ;

-f
>
> sim
>


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--0-512565849-1294422649=:16250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 17:54:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7248A183480; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version :x-mailer; bh=Gv1hG0LIvBa1kbyDqBI032WqrLOpkEivzCtbcLGP4V4=; b=Pjx1Rqm+IZVqC036ZxX2+9BC2psixyrFiu6i6Uk/IEO9rfhymEHDWA8vjljQlqXjsw SljrlJwCFOFanb197+BnHYWNG9Uk8QnrLnPypJaOsMeUkemCR0ScCgAQ7rryvy1glaXE c4ViV+Ls7Pg0aO7LRqs+cQygl8x+0yUtWBwSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=q9JF33JyXvpsdWK49jm461atLwjB7gqCEiEXpQ864TlIc6H6hcMmt6FXSbtvnZur6x qVubVIagXweeiVRoNKncxMIELdRn4svQuTbxIgOd1gtPDlONRlS22ulPtaEVgrczRMa6 msIvywRUgY5UrsSufrd8ZX3jjDPPPft0vy8Y4= From: Todd Matthews Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Any live looping happening 13th-16th in Brooklyn/NYC? Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:54:02 -0500 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Anybody doing a live show in NYC during these days or have some = recommendations? Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 17:58:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61ED4183482; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=a2s1QBzSd39t54Tcm7FLLLFDPR/9ALeNTLXaFesYfJc=; b=N2/FicdpKdx6RGUMiuhmh/XxcXzhcBxdINZDSwBvkEpC1DoCLgtryoYfs90TYGxl8l DIGPccDo5mvTDxykl4g+rg/3ClmnjO4gb0jHsVM27kJHK5NuMkKPKXHL9cfE/E2CEfOc Esjb94YFxBFDSOpZLU/I37LNoucHGPY0j/7bM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Qd5GqWAe+RVKwiVaZqjzvDIE+xdsoqKTsL8xEJA8PTwwTXqKymXMyIriQo18uRQsAP Kq5/KCUYOiAXQLn2Nb3ulC/JQH2GmDceNnGe3AJeJiiZGcaDLd+uGojp6tONq57JpQEq CvOA0ZrRv5ge9vTwt3AFqRr8KWTMOjE8tw0PE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:57:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any live looping happening 13th-16th in Brooklyn/NYC? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a5d00e013d0499455c47 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:58:04 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a5d00e013d0499455c47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm not playing, and I'm not aware of any shows (i guess we'll find out), but how about a looper's gathering for coffee late morning on the 13th? On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Anybody doing a live show in NYC during these days or have some > recommendations? > > > > --001636c5a5d00e013d0499455c47 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not playing, and I'm not aware of any shows (i guess we'll = find out), but how about a looper's gathering for coffee late morning o= n the 13th?

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I haven't read the entire thread but it looks like Trim was suggested which will be the easiest way to delete a piece off the end. Trim is similar to Multiply/Record or in EDP speak an "unrounded multiply" except that it happens instantly. Trim will obey the Quantize Mode parameter, so one approach would be to set Quantize Mode to Subcycle and then hit Trim End a little before the last subcycle. If you like to keep Quantize Mode off you can enable it just for Trim in a script. !name Quantized Trim Variable saveQuantize quantize set quantize off TrimEnd set quantize saveQuantize With a little more work we can make the script always wait until the beginning of the last subcycle no matter where you are in the loop. !name Trim Last Subcycle Varialbe lastSubcycle subcycles - 1 Wait until subcycle lastSubcycle TrimEnd Something to note about this though, is that after the trim the length of the subcycle changes. For Example say you start with a loop that is 2 seconds long and 8thsPerCycle is 4. When you run the script the first time the loop will shorten from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds since 2 divided by 4 is .5. But the new shortened layer still has 4 subcycles in it so if you run the script again the trim amount will be shorter. 1.5 / 4 is .375 so the new loop length would be 1.125. The amount of trim will become progressively smaller every time you run the script. This might sound cool but is probably not what you're after. If you always want to trim an amount equal to the *original* subcycle length you could do this with a global variable. !name Trim Last Subcycle Variable global trimSubcycleLength 0 if trimSubcycleLength == 0 #first time here, remember the length set trimSubcycleLength subcycleFrames endif Variable trimFrame loopFrames - trimSubcycleLength if trimFrame <= 0 # we've trimmed down to 1 subcycle, reset the length set trimSubcycleLength 0 else Wait until frame trimFrame TrimEnd endif Anyone else like to unsubscribe? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 18:09:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33CFB18348A; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FZ5pb+/qwOhLo2SCqiKrw+tSMrqSY0PJPnMLxfPKCE4=; b=Xs0m0FcTJpoG7JYVBH4Ue3Czhq0SbQmKHcwonaz8Lnmy5r6b2B2AN2Hs1zm//60dis gnEdx+aogYBm4eVqyTS4HtbhTMqTM0eGFBose5hp5vVbgGJI/Ydc4kfq6Vowx8zctTI/ 9+AG6elPKqw1qH4WZGu+ipDCgdBSW2W9pvJS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=O/t0UgGMmBammfPPTYXRKIhKmY4ejrdWuL1mBPAayyjqX8NQBmmP49jDRSLqxae0HY K1bQ63CdWFkWKMA8+y3cISWWV3f9zk9I3S9NiwicdzvFWjm2HObjLZER+jZE2rpxMMBX 61F41KpyB8xNPAnynQfAQW6ixC3/f8GAqPnrc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> <293DA656-F556-48C8-8738-FC9F4A2D165B@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:09:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <2h-YvC.A.s8D.Ub1JNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:09:24 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i'd like to be able to tell mobius to wait until the boudary of subcycle 15 > appears and then execute the trimend command I just tried this. It works on a one cycle long loop but has two flaws: it nukes the first sixteenth and it causes a noise click that gets recorded during the multiply phase (but "shuffle" clicks too, so I guess that's an audio engine thing to iron out in the long run) ____________ !name Shorter Message Shortened Multiply Wait subcycles 15 Record next _____________ Per (Awaiting notification on this list if this discussion is moved to the forum. I don't think people unsubscribe for it - I mean, no one is forced to read every damn post! We all pick the subjects that interest us and delete the rest ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 18:14:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF0B518349A; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=g0iWXTzT0mh1TNNiXFTwyxLFKLmuBTngm1bom1y1EMM=; b=ImUoaGB/kErRotjQO0kPttPCcuug8D3IHoW45v77NUtSMup2FUvu+ttGAJV/oIO6De IUhxsVJrCb6SZ3FnqeDCQK7qGkzi6w6OZLEDKJ7yvxcKYcX9reWNs/6piHF9ESSjXbQw StNWHW7W5Lbq+4HBypBmuO0sf+biia1eLTlvs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=d+hBsEPP458QXfOlC8IAI/fLQKSmEpa9DcDaRVF6eJY9qrVanlothtZLTxCBV+iZ1K bxT4byPC4jfN7QRJ+zJ6/qsw55glCwU/0YG0xCu2dR1YSnsgh3ZinXh60/JpfHGYLlYY mzl8iYQmPQJvqAmzmtq/tMSZeRdtMZ9eoylcY= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-436755842 Subject: Re: Any live looping happening 13th-16th in Brooklyn/NYC? Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:14:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <7BDA6F9D-40CE-472C-A5CA-038DA4780F02@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <8KkwIB.A.pHE.3f1JNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:14:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-436755842 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Damn that would be awesome, I love loopers and coffee but the 13th is = actually the day I'll be traveling. I teach till noon then I'm hopping = on the train. Probably won't get in till 8-9pm. Let me know if you guys = decide for coffee on any other morning. If so, I'm game. Looking forward to the next record! On Jan 7, 2011, at 12:57 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > I'm not playing, and I'm not aware of any shows (i guess we'll find = out), but how about a looper's gathering for coffee late morning on the = 13th? >=20 > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Todd Matthews = wrote: > Anybody doing a live show in NYC during these days or have some = recommendations? >=20 >=20 >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com --Apple-Mail-3-436755842 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Damn = that would be awesome, I love loopers and coffee but the 13th is = actually the day I'll be traveling. I teach till noon then I'm hopping = on the train. Probably won't get in till 8-9pm. Let me know if you guys = decide for coffee on any other morning. If so, I'm = game.


Looking forward to the next = record!


On Jan 7, 2011, at 12:57 = PM, todd reynolds wrote:

I'm not = playing, and I'm not aware of any shows (i guess we'll find out), but = how about a looper's gathering for coffee late morning on the = 13th?

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:54 PM, = Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> = wrote:
Anybody doing a live = show in NYC during these days or have some recommendations?





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bh=pqdN5VDGsCRJqeCDOo811FHmBOwvYBnDPe9mogDZgeI=; b=tuC1RBD42iybQpFTirhhpefEYzbjaV1RHYuXcRZoZlaU9utvV9C0FgG5IGUZgLOa+M Whe0NfdSeJ2af3pJhXzYuv7Ol4I3e6mTNrcnrYpLrG9KKuj0iVZYdZJrnUMDCc/0t5Ha C3DKAmvNqm5sN7ksy85caiThJ9j5SsUKl5DSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d5d575CQeKihsaRICZb36Lewj80GzOkjmw8y/2NDrKodCYKQL091Dy0NMSTWG+6KgQ Cx81jjryEw28l9aZ0N6daz5XTBUC2kOOCSiCzLA8yM3ozhkSW4+5P6jPdvPF8RAUH9D5 DOOzucwF1CkO3OaqKiBB7aMLxjZ8NSOJQ+hhs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4F6C8C87-9AD9-4FC7-8327-0FA3F2DED82E@zonemobius.com> References: <4F6C8C87-9AD9-4FC7-8327-0FA3F2DED82E@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:27:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0uhkL.A.djE.ts1JNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:27:57 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > =C2=A0If you always want to trim an amount > equal to the *original* subcycle length you could do this > with a global variable. > > =C2=A0!name Trim Last Subcycle > =C2=A0Variable global trimSubcycleLength 0 > > =C2=A0if trimSubcycleLength =3D=3D 0 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 #first time here, remember the length > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 set trimSubcycleLength subcycleFrames > =C2=A0endif > > =C2=A0Variable trimFrame loopFrames - trimSubcycleLength > =C2=A0if trimFrame <=3D 0 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # we've trimmed down to 1 subcycle, reset the length > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 set trimSubcycleLength 0 > =C2=A0else > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wait until frame trimFrame > =C2=A0 =C2=A0TrimEnd > =C2=A0endif Wow! I just played with this now and it is super cool!!!! Made two simultaneous riffs inside one loop each. One riff being played an octave higher. Then I nuked the last subcycle and the goddamn magic went almost sufian! Nice getting back to an important point in using loopers to perform with; to instantly compose stuff that wouldn't be playable! Look out - it's the Glitch Terror! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 18:28:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44AA51834B4; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: another mobius question Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:28:33 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:28:40 +0000 (UTC) There are a lot of general questions being asked on this thread so I'm going to jump around a bit. > On Jan 7, 2011, at 8:31 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Isnt it something like (I dont know anything about scripting.. can you = do this?) >=20 > !name chop_short >=20 > Multiply > Wait cycle > Wait cycle > Wait cycle > ... > Record Yes that works. The basic technique is to start Multiply, then use Wait to wait for the desired period of time, then do Record. The loop will be resized so that it starts whevever the Multiply started and ends wherever the Record was done. =20 Note though that the initial Multiply will be subject to Quantize Mode. =20 I think a lot of the questions on this thread would be made clearer if the documentation for "Wait" wasn't so bad (non existant really). I'll work on that this weekend, but some quick examples: # wait for the start of the next subcycle Wait subcycle # wait for the start of the subycle after the next subcycle Wait subcycle 2 # wait for the start of a specific subcycle # subcycles are numbered from 0 Wait until subcyle 3 So, going back to your example, instead of having several lines of "Wait = cycle" you could also do: Wait cycle 7 Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 18:29:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64FE21834C0; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:29:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=g1m120pog5USdXAm5OAuSRERo2XGNJKsHy1J2IQjogg=; b=OQAa+0YcvVl8x8qLaj6L3p75TIR9Ozb+wqgPrnP2MeFG25cj+xaJYVSwc9pHMVBHO2 S4VMOayo5hX5uK3MxcvYND2PpyAhU/giCKinY4HN7TuUfE/ONugfdqyfMbtF+o9gSvN0 QcXZhWnb1xbqUUiOADEtaw067pA3VadycKWC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=ie8+vqqti8MsYMsAOLCEmyGRA2O/qRSPe4IT3elKeas8lldvrNPCJ04N1yXWiG9fX5 SrBvYJAOwq8D8TZDbaeH1s8zf8gPPNmIpRl55UMdtcUCSsjR9yBDUTaouwm2c+KmuBVJ vNaJKIe8+gXRHqpjzkRACBiS//poBrbzyF6r4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7BDA6F9D-40CE-472C-A5CA-038DA4780F02@gmail.com> References: <7BDA6F9D-40CE-472C-A5CA-038DA4780F02@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:29:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any live looping happening 13th-16th in Brooklyn/NYC? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2f71f32e6049945cd73 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:29:42 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2f71f32e6049945cd73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 that's the only day we intersect, I'm afraid. but I think it'd be a fun thing to pursue in the future. On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Damn that would be awesome, I love loopers and coffee but the 13th is > actually the day I'll be traveling. I teach till noon then I'm hopping on > the train. Probably won't get in till 8-9pm. Let me know if you guys decide > for coffee on any other morning. If so, I'm game. > > --20cf3054a2f71f32e6049945cd73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that's the only day we intersect, I'm afraid. =A0but I think it'= ;d be a fun thing to pursue in the future.

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrot= e:
Damn th= at would be awesome, I love loopers and coffee but the 13th is actually the= day I'll be traveling. I teach till noon then I'm hopping on the t= rain. Probably won't get in till 8-9pm. Let me know if you guys decide = for coffee on any other morning. If so, I'm game.

--20cf3054a2f71f32e6049945cd73-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 18:31:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 497911834CE; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:references:from :content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=VIdAed9NwajdvTgo3FEURQEjCxPgorkPO3I/vIeec6I=; b=UqXxg15vcbvpyW2zLoGvUOCWDzxykM0yHQjo4uR/KLKAUBqli/dv2mINy0v1OCNRVM iTNyA8N4diDTBC87/ABYod4wEBR5tssgyxZXIjBXE72O8czj3ZioVaNuKnBYY60OnciE ewe9rgKiisb6r5gqoVTCThAITPrSuOUDRNgD8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=SUzov+I6+Y6Exo+3IurCSuXHjCyxFuDNAADWiOO0+peD8r0359XPCclMoCIjjxkXft k+HekdlPtPj+hoHOX2FwI4wKg8YID3ZOuN5nUfzGRr3B8t7GdMPHpEhSe7ppxRR3s8zR KtmY49r3ROlhBpNrOo554QFZHXVQAPlwV97S0= Subject: Re: another mobius question References: <4F6C8C87-9AD9-4FC7-8327-0FA3F2DED82E@zonemobius.com> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <56A0A1E7-9322-41E7-87B5-B0035A00EA77@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:33:06 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, now you see what I've been getting at! I've been doing this with slip a= nd sequencers but this is way cooler Sent from my iPod On 7 Jan 2011, at 18:27, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> If you always want to trim an amount >> equal to the *original* subcycle length you could do this >> with a global variable. >>=20 >> !name Trim Last Subcycle >> Variable global trimSubcycleLength 0 >>=20 >> if trimSubcycleLength =3D=3D 0 >> #first time here, remember the length >> set trimSubcycleLength subcycleFrames >> endif >>=20 >> Variable trimFrame loopFrames - trimSubcycleLength >> if trimFrame <=3D 0 >> # we've trimmed down to 1 subcycle, reset the length >> set trimSubcycleLength 0 >> else >> Wait until frame trimFrame >> TrimEnd >> endif >=20 >=20 > Wow! I just played with this now and it is super cool!!!! Made two > simultaneous riffs inside one loop each. One riff being played an > octave higher. Then I nuked the last subcycle and the goddamn magic > went almost sufian! >=20 > Nice getting back to an important point in using loopers to perform > with; to instantly compose stuff that wouldn't be playable! Look out - > it's the Glitch Terror! >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 18:32:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47EE51834D5; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> From: Jeff Larson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12-437850791 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <89B369E4-2671-4080-9929-1EC247A63DD6@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:32:26 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:32:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12-437850791 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, I think I included it in one of the last scripts but to wait for the start of the last subcycle, one way is: Variable targetSubcycle subcycleCount - 1 Wait until subcycle targetSubcycle Jeff On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > the system variable "subcyclecount" exists. can this be used? >=20 > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Simeon Harris = wrote: > fabio - you said -=20 > Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? > You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or = whatever per cycle setting. >=20 > but in the manual it says trimend will trim from the current frame to = the end. how do you get it to trim from the last 8th or 16th to the end? >=20 > sim >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-12-437850791 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Yes, I think I included it in one of the last scripts but to
wait for the start of the last subcycle, one way is:

   Variable targetSubcycle subcycleCount - 1
   Wait until subcycle targetSubcycle

Jeff



On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

the system variable "subcyclecount" exists. can this be used?

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
fabio - you said -
Did you try the "TRIM" commands ?
You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or whatever per cycle setting.

but in the manual it says trimend will trim from the current frame to the end. how do you get it to trim from the last 8th or 16th to the end?

sim



--Apple-Mail-12-437850791-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 18:37:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB79A1834C6; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <7B187BF0-C5E2-4DDE-8BA2-723778826ACF@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:37:30 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:37:31 +0000 (UTC) > On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > no, just discovered it's the total number of subcycles > > subcyclenumber looks like it could possibly be the one subcycleCount - the number of subcycles in a cycle subcycleNumber - the number of the current subcycle within the cycle, subcycles are numbered from zero Also note that any sort of Wait arithmetic involving subcycles only works within the *current cycle*. If your loop has more than one cycle due to using Multiply, then the math to get to "the last subcycle of the last cycle" is a bit more complicated than what I showed in the last scripts. > i'm trying to get this to work > > if subcyclenumber = 15 > trimend > endif > > to chop the last subcycle off a loop with 16, but it doesn't work It would work only if you were within subcycle 15 when you ran it, but unless you quantized the script, it would not trim exactly one subcycle it would trim from wherever you were at the moment. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 18:43:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 717281834EC; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> <293DA656-F556-48C8-8738-FC9F4A2D165B@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <5F265921-CBB3-4E5F-B664-694868FBA1C2@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:43:37 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:43:39 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 7, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I just tried this. It works on a one cycle long loop ____________ !name Shorter Message Shortened Multiply Wait subcycles 15 Record next _____________ > but has two flaws: it nukes the first sixteenth This is a "relative" Wait, it will wait for the start of the subcycle that is 15 after the one you are currently in. So if you're in subcycle 3 it will wait until the start of subcycle 2 (3 + 15 = 18 % 16 = 2). To do an "absolute" wait, add the "until" keyboard. Wait until subcycle 15 That should always wait until the beginning of the last subcycle (assuming 8thsperCycle is 16). > and it causes a noise click that > gets recorded during the multiply phase (but "shuffle" clicks too, so > I guess that's an audio engine thing to iron out in the long run) Ouch, that's news to me! Is this after the 1.43 upgrade or has it always done this? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 18:44:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E060C1834F7; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:references:from :content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=xGqpGRAKZIhBDDQVQKh+99Fin2yxOQNA7QjjezQ7CV4=; b=Yi8zX1+N7E7XZ1dPQ2LMAagzOOXxBuRKXoOjZKYrcsjOEOXZ1zsOG94O5/K67L1sop TemK8zS5mB9rCilu76lZwcld8hB64ZonLNrPHELCqkwLvLiHr6D28O6dbvD2LoJPo7Zk d8WWupcpPZ1c+shcGB9KR+7UniAMI+4U4+NyM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=PqMMbIqZ18LcZlY0tMXzeoTOCV02ajQMePXmT9Sghcnl4dui4oSAHtBIwmv//V6vA9 d+h0ugr27KS6xyndNO3J0n3UIoT2GTzKuKYp7fNF4PdvWPOQzqsHRYu3xmj592xv5bYj HC4ReG78I2saGoe3PdFbbYomftNQ04bA5/3PI= Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> <7B187BF0-C5E2-4DDE-8BA2-723778826ACF@zonemobius.com> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: <7B187BF0-C5E2-4DDE-8BA2-723778826ACF@zonemobius.com> Message-Id: <9B6D648B-188B-4664-BBB3-E65D2AA4EBC5@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:45:57 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Thanks jeff. I think you've answered my initial question with the scripts yo= u posted earlier. I'll give them a go later, but it sounds like they're work= ing well from per. Thanks for all your help! Sent from my iPod On 7 Jan 2011, at 18:37, Jeff Larson wrote: >> On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >> no, just discovered it's the total number of subcycles >>=20 >> subcyclenumber looks like it could possibly be the one >=20 > subcycleCount > - the number of subcycles in a cycle >=20 > subcycleNumber > - the number of the current subcycle within the cycle, > subcycles are numbered from zero >=20 > Also note that any sort of Wait arithmetic involving > subcycles only works within the *current cycle*. If your > loop has more than one cycle due to using Multiply, then > the math to get to "the last subcycle of the last cycle" > is a bit more complicated than what I showed in the last scripts. >=20 >> i'm trying to get this to work >>=20 >> if subcyclenumber =3D 15 >> trimend >> endif >>=20 >> to chop the last subcycle off a loop with 16, but it doesn't work >=20 > It would work only if you were within subcycle 15 when you ran it, > but unless you quantized the script, it would not trim exactly > one subcycle it would trim from wherever you were at the moment. >=20 > Jeff >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 19:22:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DABE51834F4; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <644D4EBA-32F7-43F7-AADC-0983F82DA0DE@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:21:54 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:21:59 +0000 (UTC) It sounds like TrimEnd may work here, but I wanted to "close the loop" so to speak on the Shuffle discussion... > 3) (This I dont know) So that ONE hit will always loop the > granule you are in right now, and continue FROM that point. > (Instead of always starting at the start of the loop) This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. Each time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create a new layer containing the next subcycle. When you reach the end it wraps back to the first subcycle. Jeff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- !autoload !name Subcycle Sequence # Variable containing the current 'slice' in the sequence Variable global currentSlice -1 # The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles # so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount if currentSlice == -1 # first time here, make a shuffle pattern with # the current subcycle set currentSlice subCycleNumber + (subCycleCount * cycleNumber) else # we've already done the shuffle, undo back to the original layer Undo # calculate the next slice set currentSlice currentSlice + 1 if currentSlice >= slices # wrap around to the beginning set currentSlice 0 endif endif Message Shuffling $currentSlice slice out of $slices # slice it up and start playing the selected slice Shuffle slices currentSlice ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 19:24:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 175C41834FD; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cl1T4hpd5oEkSuu2TB4j7ZQy6gmX275YU9J2+9lwTFw=; b=AnTXlTQwtmFI2YAJgcA4zf1COITkYuhjX6QLlxldMQleBEr3beweNWhyfvcD1f+sbW whfEpPiDHnpBvR0ikPuKSmpmU+lRJ9ClQK5Za85864j+ASFEf0OgWJ+ELUFcK5vgBZby DSMmI4XwdcPxCpeXLo/3Tw51t6/ydcc4AbFiQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PwcqFAVGhw8uv8lR+4PqYGYGYNLMapn3TiL47p3VNkwxB+gWyeCwX3PCN2pmOzR410 1a1TCf6tTBgjYY5AS//AfmstBmkInRgp9iL5gkABzFNRGeX6jLKNIUFDySbFRsYgoZuG GBznJur1CgqONF0YjAePOxNdfTs0q4QPZ9u1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5F265921-CBB3-4E5F-B664-694868FBA1C2@zonemobius.com> References: <9A1C3749-5791-4ED3-AAD1-2FE53195BEF8@gmail.com> <5883C4A9-1E69-40B0-8BE5-60171DE397EA@googlemail.com> <293DA656-F556-48C8-8738-FC9F4A2D165B@gmail.com> <5F265921-CBB3-4E5F-B664-694868FBA1C2@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:24:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:24:51 +0000 (UTC) >> and it causes a noise click that >> gets recorded during the multiply phase (but "shuffle" clicks too, so >> I guess that's an audio engine thing to iron out in the long run) > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Ouch, that's news to me! =C2=A0Is this after the 1.43 upgrade or has it a= lways > done this? No, 1.42 and as long ago I can remember. Well at least a year back, since we started fiddling with these slice-up-the-loop-by-shuffle scripts. Do you have reason to believe 1.43 won't click? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 19:26:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1800183503; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <2D9D215B-3FC8-429B-9AC9-FCDBBBDC4CD7@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:26:10 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:26:12 +0000 (UTC) > On Jan 7, 2011, at 6:06 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I think that Larsen guy should spend less time posting unshaven = pictures of me on Facebook Ordinarilly I would attempt a clever response here, but in this case I just don't think it would end well. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 19:30:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2232183510; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tvypB8AhETbRPaKe0G/Gr3cR9/KmoVlGRHRZhIiA8Kc=; b=Vt0WuKES0c3POjI5OAE1qA21b2A5gpmXJ4AUaJ+bdO5b5kqz4rFkTSMOiew51AccNe T7Nr27KRFgT7mPZy9y1skQmZPFenHoRPTyfAOK120ho8sdnrSPBP8Zbz5PFo+KAIyWK0 MzJKUhwMT5sqASWYeWGQgoLAJsN92+XASFDDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pDtdkr7EEXvAsei3QDqGv5XCFdztP6+M1B/miUROCedNgJhEapiiGQ/zPwHiDzhxjo X/18gBMny5EKsn43x+prQQ4j58pU8ZVpaH4RqlMiRpQCc0ojqHsaBOT+hCSZxijgnPED PcVosjABWUsmrvLbme75m010/TkkBg5Ia+oYI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2D9D215B-3FC8-429B-9AC9-FCDBBBDC4CD7@zonemobius.com> References: <2D9D215B-3FC8-429B-9AC9-FCDBBBDC4CD7@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:30:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:30:43 +0000 (UTC) >> On Jan 7, 2011, at 6:06 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> I think that Larsen guy should spend less time posting unshaven pictures of me on Facebook > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Ordinarilly I would attempt a clever response here, but in this case > I just don't think it would end well. Right, Jeff. If you wanna stay alive, don't give any feedback if approached by an unshaven... P ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 19:35:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 668ED183507; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=C/KtiXZdpi0HSPR46ohi8sJVhFKCwWm4yQr2/rzPXMY=; b=ajHfA7oaauot75HGGhlIFb/q2olEypWTV6MIw/QLZO9tcGkj2IoaaQpLljEUB5NmFf lwM2FMZfiUMFLKUEQLKIrsEcAqUC60tq3t+2gS0qzDKDYN9gzJH6KlLKb2rXlsAqgn8y g//sY+iL8GwXWo85elJ+vH9iL+CKOzwmHzUVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=UCGnP4YsYXoITfKwYGUqF8SfinjVhdeHShRoEP2EvIk10y1iUOfw5RrxJ8rl2aKaRb /gyeRDvym0ndDkMGpj4+sh9hhSmV8P01jvpRWIm2q5LxNLNkg+QdNxVNmLX7Yc4BYHq9 ZoxFh4lnB9aZtC7p5dtYDB/idipmfK6xyX2xs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:35:28 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6wGjIM7Fh2nU3u7mjlydNR_5Ho4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8384b220b4049946b960 Resent-Message-ID: <2Y4pOC.A.ngG.Ws2JNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:35:50 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8384b220b4049946b960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Surely you mean Wait subcycle 7 ? On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > So, going back to your example, instead of having several lines of "Wait > cycle" > you could also do: > > Wait cycle 7 > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8384b220b4049946b960 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Surely you mean

Wait subcycle 7

?

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com> wro= te:
= So, going back to your example, instead of having several lines of "Wa= it cycle"
you could also do:

=A0 Wait cycle 7



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Stephen Goodman EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net http://www.earthlight.tv * Sent from a PC, not an iPhone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 19:43:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E66B8183528; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: another mobius question Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:43:48 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:43:50 +0000 (UTC) > On Jan 7, 2011, at 1:35 PM, mark francombe wrote: > > Surely you mean > Wait subcycle 7 Your original example was > Multiply > Wait cycle > Wait cycle > ... > Record So I thought you wanted to wait for cycles, which is reasonable if you started with a short loop and used Multiply or InstantMultiply to make a bunch of cycle. But if you want to wait for subcycles then yes "Wait subcycles 7". Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 20:03:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8D58183497; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=Phi30DODEQ8Eqzu3xRt0JVYmhRfwKrWt9LS7d4DewfY=; b=AmiFwfoso43CDMtOjqI0Gqgz7jOzvDNPISCQ598+P5O3f4KUlLE5LQ/lzkNqMFeD0i lWUguhF9ItuPvdubRX7YAFl/WD3VKWWEWLXlO22S0quT9lIbnGhos+V/XE6lmxKaQTxl sBUyACiPiVQC6m/Tw2X4mONyzhgJZrtrB1b08= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OYPfUpQY6kjMUVygdPI+KbO9hoZnkrXaWJwSMHYDaDHJe2bNl9Urijdk76Lxiv95yC 6qI7ALxYsdkBr5cl5hEZf9upji/DuPZE/DKNZ5QagYNtVka4xiZdNGKRDDMqw90yhnju g8jDT5Sr8NOxE5gwvRRSr5V03j+jWKCb3MLgY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <644D4EBA-32F7-43F7-AADC-0983F82DA0DE@zonemobius.com> References: <644D4EBA-32F7-43F7-AADC-0983F82DA0DE@zonemobius.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:02:40 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fHAU0jLcIm3GRJtQ-phmX34juVY Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop windowing in mobius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8384eb86000499471a00 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:03:01 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8384eb86000499471a00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This here.. is gold dust... thank you Jeff, you may post pictures of my hairy ass! Im called, but there is enough in these two threads to keep me bust all weekend, if we werent all going skiing Damn and blast! Mark On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > It sounds like TrimEnd may work here, but I wanted to > "close the loop" so to speak on the Shuffle discussion... > > > 3) (This I dont know) So that ONE hit will always loop the > > granule you are in right now, and continue FROM that point. > > (Instead of always starting at the start of the loop) > > This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal > to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer > containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. Each > time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create > a new layer containing the next subcycle. When you reach the > end it wraps back to the first subcycle. > > Jeff > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > !autoload > !name Subcycle Sequence > > # Variable containing the current 'slice' in the sequence > Variable global currentSlice -1 > > # The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles > # so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle > Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount > > if currentSlice == -1 > # first time here, make a shuffle pattern with > # the current subcycle > set currentSlice subCycleNumber + (subCycleCount * cycleNumber) > > else > # we've already done the shuffle, undo back to the original layer > Undo > > # calculate the next slice > set currentSlice currentSlice + 1 > if currentSlice >= slices > # wrap around to the beginning > set currentSlice 0 > endif > endif > > Message Shuffling $currentSlice slice out of $slices > > # slice it up and start playing the selected slice > Shuffle slices currentSlice > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8384eb86000499471a00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This here.. is gold dust... thank you Jeff, you may post pictures of my hai= ry ass!

Im called, but there is enough in these two threads to keep = me bust all weekend, if we werent all going skiing Damn and blast!

Mark




On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8= :21 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com> wrote:

It sounds like TrimEnd may work here, but I wanted to
"close the loop" so to speak on the Shuffle discussion...

> 3) (This I dont know) So that ONE hit will always loop the
> granule you are in right now, and continue FROM that point.
> (Instead of always starting at the start of the loop)

This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal
to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer
containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. =A0Each
time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create
a new layer containing the next subcycle. =A0When you reach the
end it wraps back to the first subcycle.

Jeff

----------------------------------------------------------------------
!autoload
!name Subcycle Sequence

# Variable containing the current 'slice' in the sequence
Variable global currentSlice -1

# The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles
# so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle
Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount

if currentSlice =3D=3D -1
=A0 # first time here, make a shuffle pattern with
=A0 # the current subcycle
=A0 set currentSlice subCycleNumber + (subCycleCount * cycleNumber)

else
=A0 # we've already done the shuffle, undo back to the original layer<= br> =A0 Undo

=A0 # calculate the next slice
=A0 set currentSlice currentSlice + 1
=A0 if currentSlice >=3D slices
=A0 =A0 =A0# wrap around to the beginning
=A0 =A0 =A0set currentSlice 0
=A0 endif
endif

Message Shuffling $currentSlice slice out of $slices

# slice it up and start playing the selected slice
Shuffle slices currentSlice
----------------------------------------------------------------------




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--90e6ba6e8384eb86000499471a00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 20:03:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7E751834CF; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DEf9avTNs1j4egeBn1HInMTmnVINi1ws2JCqGJ9vJkI=; b=UfE9kSUVbvUTcs+Hc1cMiCCB+GI6dBtpDNEog0HOXdaXNnM3Dfr12r+bKzEKAVJny8 lgXl3iF60+zwoFoPylVotABLOieo4kNIsC7+Ka1hS+o/5GFV6066Cf6c2AeqTkAnl31E AgUklb/NrvwPhDhYJj8NKsU52I/zXx2dLHs14= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Hx5wNDvhwLTIZ6M1a4XjNjNg3gWP5MvXJSCVJjZjdNSV37CMSGfdLTBxvJyob3Wv12 dKTmJHAzHjkHyjzMRp6dn6YjPIjZ5E3D03IfzKYdM/G1eHCUlSuORqoRVHNR3eQ7Hz/1 g/g4riwpCQWUVbOx0cDCyElIs9ne0T79AkgzM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:03:02 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd10128099e400499471b09 Resent-Message-ID: <0Rsb2C.A.aTH.3F3JNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:03:03 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd10128099e400499471b09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 just tried out the script below - it looks extremely cool, but i'm afraid it doesn't completely work t does the first part (you hear the first granule over and over), but you have to manually undo and rerun to get the next slice. if you just rerun, nothing changes you also don't get the message saying which slice is currenlty being shuffled it's too complicated for me to troubleshoot, 'm afraid, so i don't know where it's going wrong, sorry sim This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. Each time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create a new layer containing the next subcycle. When you reach the end it wraps back to the first subcycle. Jeff ------------------------------ ---------------------------------------- !autoload !name Subcycle Sequence # Variable containing the current 'slice' in the sequence Variable global currentSlice -1 # The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles # so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount if currentSlice == -1 # first time here, make a shuffle pattern with # the current subcycle set currentSlice subCycleNumber + (subCycleCount * cycleNumber) else # we've already done the shuffle, undo back to the original layer Undo # calculate the next slice set currentSlice currentSlice + 1 if currentSlice >= slices # wrap around to the beginning set currentSlice 0 endif endif Message Shuffling $currentSlice slice out of $slices # slice it up and start playing the selected slice --000e0cd10128099e400499471b09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just tried out the script below - it looks extremely cool, but i'm afra= id it doesn't completely work

t does the first part (you hear th= e first granule over and over), but you have to manually undo and rerun to = get the next slice. if you just rerun, nothing changes

you also don't get the message saying which slice is currenlty bein= g shuffled

it's too complicated for me to troubleshoot, 'm a= fraid, so i don't know where it's going wrong, sorry

sim


This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal
to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer
containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. =A0Each
time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create
a new layer containing the next subcycle. =A0When you reach the
end it wraps back to the first subcycle.

Jeff

------------------------------
-----------------------------= -----------
!autoload
!name Subcycle Sequence

# Variable containing the current 'slice' in the sequence
Variable global currentSlice -1

# The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles
# so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle
Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount

if currentSlice =3D=3D -1
=A0 # first time here, make a shuffle pattern with
=A0 # the current subcycle
=A0 set currentSlice subCycleNumber + (subCycleCount * cycleNumber)

else
=A0 # we've already done the shuffle, undo back to the original layer<= br> =A0 Undo

=A0 # calculate the next slice
=A0 set currentSlice currentSlice + 1
=A0 if currentSlice >=3D slices
=A0 =A0 =A0# wrap around to the beginning
=A0 =A0 =A0set currentSlice 0
=A0 endif
endif

Message Shuffling $currentSlice slice out of $slices

# slice it up and start playing the selected slice
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Sincerely Yours, Mrs. Grace Peters Customer Care From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 20:12:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD6371834DA; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: another mobius question Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:12:12 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Have you upgraded to 1.43? That's what I wrote it on. I don't see why it wouldn't work with 1.42 but I'll try it. For the messages make sure the "Message" display component is selected in Configuration/Display = Components. =20 Jeff On Jan 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > just tried out the script below - it looks extremely cool, but i'm = afraid it doesn't completely work >=20 > t does the first part (you hear the first granule over and over), but = you have to manually undo and rerun to get the next slice. if you just = rerun, nothing changes >=20 > you also don't get the message saying which slice is currenlty being = shuffled From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 20:22:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34E0B1834E1; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6eBkR3StNTrYmmJawdcTQ+w0+biMCFcCUVC6102TprY=; b=S1HYXjIE6l1W+UQQurO5cDS/nrMdg8ZQgulpAO4kkpYsj1IYCrgpaVKXltuUF9euwU MYOH4rfz77NEApgVaT4qQxgCCw3xvnAUwAx16oSBWN7QSQY4GHYeXKexyWZjT2DN29ko dPwwXyajzmwM17eN8fkldrKISdvQewIf0nAcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=LHUA6f9vlIU3aFhlGRocuugZawBJBXFPeNxQOPLM2ELQhD9W2BbPwgLGeXxD4cxklN HZm7qihspL7/x8gtByFc8BT9QiW/EU/Dd+wFupAdzunKhgbQsk6+UDhWSaKaIRd6T19h cMKQ07reGPSFip9mw7FN910lbx9/eefZOhNSA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:22:02 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a8d801ec800499475fca Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:22:04 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a8d801ec800499475fca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yes i'm on 1.43 my bad about the messages - i didn't have the message box in UI but it definitely doesn't work. it repeats the current 16th (i have 8ths set to 16), but when it reaches the end of the cycle, that 16th is halved if you press the button again, you continue to hear hear the current 16th as normal and the behavoir repeats the messages show that the currentslice is advancing, but you don't hear it sim On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Have you upgraded to 1.43? That's what I wrote it on. I don't see why > it wouldn't work with 1.42 but I'll try it. For the messages make sure > the "Message" display component is selected in Configuration/Display > Components. > > > Jeff > > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > > > just tried out the script below - it looks extremely cool, but i'm afraid > it doesn't completely work > > > > t does the first part (you hear the first granule over and over), but you > have to manually undo and rerun to get the next slice. if you just rerun, > nothing changes > > > > you also don't get the message saying which slice is currenlty being > shuffled > > --000e0cd6a8d801ec800499475fca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes i'm on 1.43

my bad about the messages - i didn't have th= e message box in UI

but it definitely doesn't work. it repeats t= he current 16th (i have 8ths set to 16), but when it reaches the end of the= cycle, that 16th is halved

if you press the button again, you continue to hear hear the current 16= th as normal and the behavoir repeats

the messages show that the cur= rentslice is advancing, but you don't hear it

sim

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com> wrote:
Have you upgraded to 1.43? =A0That's what I wrote it on. =A0I don't= see why
it wouldn't work with 1.42 but I'll try it. =A0For the messages mak= e sure
the "Message" display component is selected in Configuration/Disp= lay Components.


Jeff


On Jan 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

> just tried out the script below - it looks extremely cool, but i'm= afraid it doesn't completely work
>
> t does the first part (you hear the first granule over and over), but = you have to manually undo and rerun to get the next slice. if you just reru= n, nothing changes
>
> you also don't get the message saying which slice is currenlty bei= ng shuffled


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=0A=0A=0A=0A =   --0-868645888-1294433337=:25069-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 21:34:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 742301834B0; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=+L9XvKLOh2qm4EuDaIWPdX/jK7WHjnUkktV/FhtAjwk=; b=qgOIiMoN+ps1tDYD0gsokbTbJgbbx7nZl++0Mdl9I9bV5cNw9+DNrNFmZB6SV6Tf33 4hf4iH6XwMQWccI9OusGnN/dK4KQ+XM9H5wH+sIZMWcFHKRYmWbEFRg9vpae791GZw4H tF6wMMgiEfs1V4Ke4ew9bTDZrnaYCaCWGZiG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=AA5fhYVfTrTNHpSPIbzw8MS9K7qAMmHUSHkXrIU6ZZWQ+DHdJonExJhbsEdN0VKjaU TtFAOMXcbyFEiSvJYea+WEORadjTMOsVhCWHmO9Q68m1aBG9XbArkZ2WFh/q7b01RXxQ 5BBbgUD3aV8SFCFSLnezqOrOl/XDsg7GmK5TU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:34:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FYr-lyDLZHksfqph3afhjx-NpKw Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e89b053ce8704994862cb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:34:35 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e89b053ce8704994862cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Its definately working here, with one small error. When it gets back to slice 0 its silent. On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > yes i'm on 1.43 > > my bad about the messages - i didn't have the message box in UI > > but it definitely doesn't work. it repeats the current 16th (i have 8ths > set to 16), but when it reaches the end of the cycle, that 16th is halved > > if you press the button again, you continue to hear hear the current 16th > as normal and the behavoir repeats > > the messages show that the currentslice is advancing, but you don't hear it > > > sim > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> Have you upgraded to 1.43? That's what I wrote it on. I don't see why >> it wouldn't work with 1.42 but I'll try it. For the messages make sure >> the "Message" display component is selected in Configuration/Display >> Components. >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: >> >> > just tried out the script below - it looks extremely cool, but i'm >> afraid it doesn't completely work >> > >> > t does the first part (you hear the first granule over and over), but >> you have to manually undo and rerun to get the next slice. if you just >> rerun, nothing changes >> > >> > you also don't get the message saying which slice is currenlty being >> shuffled >> >> > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e89b053ce8704994862cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its definately working here, with one small error. When it gets back to sli= ce 0 its silent.





On Fri, = Jan 7, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
yes i'm on 1.= 43

my bad about the messages - i didn't have the message box in = UI

but it definitely doesn't work. it repeats the current 16th (i have= 8ths set to 16), but when it reaches the end of the cycle, that 16th is ha= lved

if you press the button again, you continue to hear hear the current 16= th as normal and the behavoir repeats

the messages show that the cur= rentslice is advancing, but you don't hear it

sim


On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com&g= t; wrote:
Have you upgraded to 1.43? =A0That's what I wrote it on. =A0I don't= see why
it wouldn't work with 1.42 but I'll try it. =A0For the messages mak= e sure
the "Message" display component is selected in Configuration/Disp= lay Components.


Jeff


On Jan 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

> just tried out the script below - it looks extremely cool, but i'm= afraid it doesn't completely work
>
> t does the first part (you hear the first granule over and over), but = you have to manually undo and rerun to get the next slice. if you just reru= n, nothing changes
>
> you also don't get the message saying which slice is currenlty bei= ng shuffled





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--90e6ba6e89b053ce8704994862cb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 21:37:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 887451834C0; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: another mobius question Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:36:56 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Try this one. The bug was that the math assumes that that subcycles are numbered from zero but the Shuffle function wants them numbered from = 1. I just tested this one and it seems to work. =46rom this basis we could = do other things like binding it to several MIDI notes and having the note number select = which slice to play. Oh and Per, I'm not getting any clicks when I do this so this may have = been fixed in 1.43. One thing to check though, open the Global Parameters window = and check the value for "Fade Frames", make sure it is 128. Jeff = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ !name Subcycle Sequence # Variable containing the current 'slice' in the sequence Variable global currentSlice -1 # The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles # so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount if currentSlice =3D=3D -1 # first time here, make a shuffle pattern with # the current subcycle set currentSlice subCycleNumber + (subCycleCount * cycleNumber) else # we've already done the shuffle, undo back to the original layer Undo # calculate the next slice set currentSlice currentSlice + 1 if currentSlice >=3D slices # wrap around to the beginning set currentSlice 0 endif endif # internally subcycles/slices are numbered from 0 # but the Shuffle command wants them numbered from 1 Variable shuffleSlice currentSlice + 1 Message Shuffling $shuffleSlice slice out of $slices Shuffle slices shuffleSlice From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 21:45:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F6E91834D0; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=O0ZEf8SJvMvPH3XOZlqCPsiUAOpuaTe+uQ6E9RGZ9G4=; b=PH0g1Z+cgDRJJMh7uDYUzNHNShjcqtgPP+2+yBHwdphKiwHfI9R7pW+FHZlmFkjpn6 cWlcTMCGUWh98iKUM4WpTtFhIMrk/fkCZPDfWklrFlC2Ti9ozXYF9ISWRPX9B9DWsMdB 0NPh2krLcP8bFSZIxC6iY3S0fwJRIfhH9aR54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=sNPNibRDwxBxAMOCHA4igqAX901dFQ3Z5in9v7l0cSl0yY8/1voCDw5xb/V+dUD/he j4XX/BCMtMpW4zYvO0iPGuuzCwL/oB1K6ndEEFnUUv60ZqMiM/duxoqbSeZH7E1vBH6F GCxAZ2cd1JMTn6wW4X9hWdtNK+72Ea113n9LE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:44:38 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TdmmJlo8JHblmLGwrdHQq2dgd94 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e838095766f04994887f1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:44:59 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e838095766f04994887f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OH OK.. I just fixed it by set currentSlice 1 dunno what it did but it worked! ha BTW, I have 1.42... should I switch? Mark On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Try this one. The bug was that the math assumes that that subcycles > are numbered from zero but the Shuffle function wants them numbered from 1. > I just tested this one and it seems to work. From this basis we could do > other things > like binding it to several MIDI notes and having the note number select > which slice > to play. > > Oh and Per, I'm not getting any clicks when I do this so this may have been > fixed > in 1.43. One thing to check though, open the Global Parameters window and > check > the value for "Fade Frames", make sure it is 128. > > > Jeff > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > !name Subcycle Sequence > > # Variable containing the current 'slice' in the sequence > Variable global currentSlice -1 > > # The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles > # so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle > Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount > > if currentSlice == -1 > # first time here, make a shuffle pattern with > # the current subcycle > set currentSlice subCycleNumber + (subCycleCount * cycleNumber) > > else > # we've already done the shuffle, undo back to the original layer > Undo > > # calculate the next slice > set currentSlice currentSlice + 1 > if currentSlice >= slices > # wrap around to the beginning > set currentSlice 0 > endif > endif > > # internally subcycles/slices are numbered from 0 > # but the Shuffle command wants them numbered from 1 > Variable shuffleSlice currentSlice + 1 > > Message Shuffling $shuffleSlice slice out of $slices > Shuffle slices shuffleSlice > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e838095766f04994887f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OH OK.. I just fixed it by=A0 set currentSlice 1

dunno what it did b= ut it worked! ha

BTW, I have 1.42... should I switch?

Mark
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Jeff Larso= n <jeff@zonemob= ius.com> wrote:
Try this one. =A0= The bug was that the math assumes that that subcycles
are numbered from zero but the Shuffle function wants them numbered from 1.=
I just tested this one and it seems to work. =A0From this basis we could do= other things
like binding it to several MIDI notes and having the note number select whi= ch slice
to play.

Oh and Per, I'm not getting any clicks when I do this so this may have = been fixed
in 1.43. =A0One thing to check though, open the Global Parameters window an= d check
the value for "Fade Frames", make sure it is 128.


Jeff

---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -----
!name Subcycle Sequence

# Variable containing the current 'slice' in the sequence
Variable global currentSlice -1

# The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles
# so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle
Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount

if currentSlice =3D=3D -1
=A0 # first time here, make a shuffle pattern with
=A0 # the current subcycle
=A0 set currentSlice subCycleNumber + (subCycleCount * cycleNumber)

else
=A0 # we've already done the shuffle, undo back to the original layer<= br> =A0 Undo

=A0 # calculate the next slice
=A0 set currentSlice currentSlice + 1
=A0 if currentSlice >=3D slices
=A0 =A0 =A0# wrap around to the beginning
=A0 =A0 =A0set currentSlice 0
=A0 endif
endif

# internally subcycles/slices are numbered from 0
# but the Shuffle command wants them numbered from 1
Variable shuffleSlice currentSlice + 1

Message Shuffling $shuffleSlice slice out of $slices
Shuffle slices shuffleSlice





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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e838095766f04994887f1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 21:52:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F52C1834B9; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v8QX5SbXmkyAgr48RivCc7FupgkM6AntC1lZhP4eB0E=; b=BmusbQdORRwWF3ozJ2RdCoGTo8F66/lzVGX17ns4w2fuZfyJyDBbaxwx2T7wA7FLSG 5kznACe6f0MKIgbu8mJn3yctV4EfECojlIhAvPZSONyvT4jbBzSzaNMKSiPufDz2Xx5B wMZouVxkqpS71Ck1maCkEk2K9k7Qmnep4RrnU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JPLBNV2o0dqy6sxzxkrdfAEopETQnIWG4rH7BJLRAmWJo//qtZ8ULoofYi76mCoRNg 2SzORW7FT48YMwnyanv016IEaLJbApgW0C1CFiwDcYGyw6vB3hAja0IymDKqj2tNJugw VKVRCPg0BDMjyraTYPHtUd3979un5WlccXuTY= Message-ID: <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 22:52:20 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Ok, I'll try this. Posted it on Jeff's forum, but apart from one user who confirmed the behaviour but was at a loss as to the "why", no replies - here goes: "I have the following in mind: A script that when activated (i.e. I click a button), starts to play subcycles alternatingly forward and backward. On an example: let's say I have a loop with 8thpercycle=4 and the voice "One Two Three Four" in it. The result would be "enO Two eerhT Four". The script should also toggle - meaning one click on the button would turn that mode on, another click would turn it off. Ok, I tried this: !name autrev Variable global PartRevActive # toggle state if PartRevActive == true set PartRevActive false else set PartRevActive true endif # the actual function while PartRevActive == true slipforward reverse wait subcycle reverse slipforward wait subcycle next end So the turn on/off (section "toggle state") seems to work. However, the function itself produces only "deterministic chaos". Any ideas where I went wrong? Rainer " -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 21:55:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4D481834BA; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: another mobius question Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:55:10 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:55:12 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 7, 2011, at 3:44 PM, mark francombe wrote: > OH OK.. I just fixed it by set currentSlice 1 Where? Try the new version, the other problem was that the old version would start shuffling the subcycle before the one you were actually in. The fix is the "Variable shuffleSlice currentSlice + 1" at the end. > BTW, I have 1.42... should I switch? If you don't have any gigs coming up then I'd like everyone to switch just so we can all start using the new documents with the new parameter names and I only have to test with one version. There have been a few script hiccups after the upgrade though so if you can't wait for the next version to fix whatever we find in the next week or so then I would stay with 1.42. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 7 22:03:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEE9E18349A; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:03:19 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Sorry Rainer, I saw this awhile ago but I'm just really bad about = keeping the forum updated. It's so much easier for me to use mailing lists... Anyway, I'll look at this today but I have to leave for a few hours.=20 Jeff On Jan 7, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Ok, I'll try this. Posted it on Jeff's forum, but apart from one user = who confirmed the behaviour but was at a loss as to the "why", no = replies - here goes: > "I have the following in mind: > A script that when activated (i.e. I click a button), starts to play = subcycles alternatingly forward and backward. >=20 > On an example: let's say I have a loop with 8thpercycle=3D4 and the = voice "One Two Three Four" in it. > The result would be "enO Two eerhT Four". >=20 > The script should also toggle - meaning one click on the button would = turn that mode on, another click would turn it off. >=20 > Ok, I tried this: > !name autrev > Variable global PartRevActive >=20 > # toggle state > if PartRevActive =3D=3D true > set PartRevActive false > else > set PartRevActive true > endif >=20 > # the actual function > while PartRevActive =3D=3D true > slipforward > reverse > wait subcycle > reverse > slipforward > wait subcycle > next > end >=20 > So the turn on/off (section "toggle state") seems to work. However, = the function itself produces only "deterministic chaos". 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=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A   --0-2047795990-1294443340=:74114-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 8 00:41:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95ECF183481; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=43JA94pECj0+DaP3iYIFz5XPEwhUxmEDiq+yq49zuRw=; b=FS1KzClsvYLUZoU6LHYcIbzl9v+0ug1i8F2kAXETphexlEWkOKK1Kntiw0lx3XwGG3 4trgofns5CTss8Bm2jTLlx3ky3u4Qb/oiE/+eBAzTRuGjffQp0x2waKl+OhbIiOd3pXh sdbsfRBW4Mx1oWUM1Zkt6GAB4f//vw0ECSg9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=D61sVTKMFKfofbMNQr3KAwpfmfk9rBEIckbRvG+41GaH6zEjkyInfPFlIb7WIxt+fC 81M9qc3KWp6JprUktC1u5SLnkL3s13GY54INGPJ4V+/rJSeyRWCrryUtMUQqYu0TFmDT B1ZVmzeSxRvSWB6cOyFYCECL5ArD3A/btn1Bs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 01:41:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Audio example posted: Subcycle Sequence (Re: loop windowing in mobius) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_fARZ.A.RjG.hK7JNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:41:05 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal > to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer > containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. =C2=A0Each > time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create > a new layer containing the next subcycle. =C2=A0When you reach the > end it wraps back to the first subcycle. Thanks, Jeff. Here's an audio clip I just recorded usinig your new Subcyle Sequence script: http://soundcloud.com/pboy/subcycle-sequence Can't wait to try this out with other instruments and in a more prepared context! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 8 01:39:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF2EC183480; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 01:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=XZHsbbgn9kyR8CHfb3HFNvbaehTK7h6x/ASH3kDNfQQ=; b=bR+Q4N7IyzaJ/nMWG/cIlqJ8ijUBE/HJUOstaRjgpeN1Ur0zsDUsNt0xNteajdvF61 OkaANJh7UgCYB9B7ihvdDFh7DM04GNGAk0k5iN06/gJ6NWepVXNeoCitkmcgRs1qIh/d CHKmFHXHnPM52yieYG7+5NmOs+hOzpYsVI6NE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BPeEW77bVtQr8WSlxmPscN0cDZUe0x45Wn+XrIls2xaZpCC5xRqRbhHxhWrQ8g9H+g akr5Tp07agzIv+Hc0ytSN16ROcBBm3X/iIQ7MtqrU9ZqHpROU20bfbavvUl9aeCKSCj1 xOr/U3NCrmhj1pPcC4CU2CoeCedGOWuxomQtI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:39:45 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8bDkxmkaDcWXAfD5LXfEjzGN-KE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio example posted: Subcycle Sequence (Re: loop windowing in mobius) From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b325473f1a04994bcfcb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 01:39:47 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b325473f1a04994bcfcb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is a really nice cut. Enjoyed it very much. On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal > > to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer > > containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. Each > > time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create > > a new layer containing the next subcycle. When you reach the > > end it wraps back to the first subcycle. > > > Thanks, Jeff. Here's an audio clip I just recorded usinig your new > Subcyle Sequence script: > http://soundcloud.com/pboy/subcycle-sequence > > Can't wait to try this out with other instruments and in a more > prepared context! > > Per > > -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --001636c5b325473f1a04994bcfcb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a really nice cut. Enjoyed it very much.

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wro= te:
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Larson= <jeff@zonemobius.com> wro= te:
> This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal
> to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer
> containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. =A0Each
> time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create
> a new layer containing the next subcycle. =A0When you reach the
> end it wraps back to the first subcycle.


Thanks, Jeff. Here's an audio clip I just recorded usinig your new
Subcyle Sequence script:
= http://soundcloud.com/pboy/subcycle-sequence

Can't wait to try this out with other instruments and in a more
prepared context!

Per




--
Warren
http://www.warrensirota= .com
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--0-992411887-1294480989=:28063-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 8 11:28:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A25BF18347E; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 11:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I6bNCUQz+nAYRHmOYejgnSRM3gOan9dXu+EqNOkUrbw=; b=KeB+NhgcWjOGtRNzB5I/KJNnnndNfCZfA9AhG0OGYnEUGOn56lJky+eWJWI1BVtdlt +0hr1N6q2E+dmEF+pIN7WwnrWxYKKdYBREME8puT2MPXidfhzbBu74Oik7f4PzmHZT8h sx+RSXcpVQnc25xHffXST6oY6vsanEWLYczGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ENwbxti0Mamm0yO6XdxiBG0dBtgWzBRwadSaePPIFK/0Cuusqmiop3Kk2JlLPTDF02 /NQjYr3pyAnTURd0W4yg1yj2+904C46GlBVMA3C3zSnJA6iNLkGU3TnbonLmSD5tA3EK muhKraGxm36GdPVVS9AUQtemeY5LcIoZoEJhQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:28:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio example posted: Subcycle Sequence (Re: loop windowing in mobius) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644cceca4599004995408c3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 11:28:29 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644cceca4599004995408c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Love that glitch stuff. It sounds like an advanced Andr=E8 la Fosse style. You're great, Per ! -f 2011/1/8 Per Boysen > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal > > to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer > > containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. Each > > time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create > > a new layer containing the next subcycle. When you reach the > > end it wraps back to the first subcycle. > > > Thanks, Jeff. Here's an audio clip I just recorded usinig your new > Subcyle Sequence script: > http://soundcloud.com/pboy/subcycle-sequence > > Can't wait to try this out with other instruments and in a more > prepared context! > > Per > > --0016e644cceca4599004995408c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Love that glitch stuff. It sounds like an advanced Andr=E8 la Fosse st= yle.
You're great, Per !

-f

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/1/8 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Larson= <jeff@zonemobius.com> wro= te:
> This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal
> to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer
> containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. =A0Each
> time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create
> a new layer containing the next subcycle. =A0When you reach the
> end it wraps back to the first subcycle.


Thanks, Jeff. Here's an audio clip I just recorded usinig your new
Subcyle Sequence script:
= http://soundcloud.com/pboy/subcycle-sequence

Can't wait to try this out with other instruments and in a more
prepared context!

Per


--0016e644cceca4599004995408c3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 8 11:32:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84DC918347E; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 11:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 561816754/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.24.176/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.24.176 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtoBADzaJ01YbRiw/2dsb2JhbAAMlinKdIVMBI4e X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,293,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="561816754" Message-ID: <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:33:12 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MPC 1000 & 2 EDP+ loosing sync References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> In-Reply-To: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 11:32:58 +0000 (UTC) John Metzler wrote: > Hi Every One. > > I am re-title-ing and re phrasing an earlier email i sent in the hope that will get more attention. we're all ears here, what's the question? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 8 12:43:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32888183477; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rVZEToAnNQyn43if1dxKHnJJd4O8rsiYajaMMT1Gf6I=; b=Dv0bUWYTJ8jLM1/ixQKih+QQ2HPrhnDvXYhUOfv14eZXFp6pfqPW5rNQObJinc92ES Yb1NMmiMkD8qDXf1YylyXh3QpHnb/4Yst3usmX4NnosBFHlKWSPOr6HmA71SzpTSJbPN BsGoNEqqm5Oaxqdi9HMUtgluLA5GcgAvq3mxA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=XsSH4g1n7g8OvI9OkjUAorzT3hrWjozU0ogcus8mRSS8bCxqUQh9HRGAOvxMLM4zEp AM/w832ZQqfCZ6M1yl5Q5rd2Vh1eI1+BCgxf65MXhfV/awTzQwZ0ftIcmELu2uUHORmh oonTye6CjfYZzcnjyAUzmbAoMdN64ndwPVqNM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:43:08 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio example posted: Subcycle Sequence (Re: loop windowing in mobius) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6b2ccb163fc04995513eb Resent-Message-ID: <9iJIm.A.EME.dvFKNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:43:09 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6b2ccb163fc04995513eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol! that's completely bonkers...love it! On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Fabio_A wrote: > Love that glitch stuff. It sounds like an advanced Andr=E8 la Fosse style= . > You're great, Per ! > > -f > > 2011/1/8 Per Boysen > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> > This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal >> > to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer >> > containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. Each >> > time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create >> > a new layer containing the next subcycle. When you reach the >> > end it wraps back to the first subcycle. >> >> >> Thanks, Jeff. Here's an audio clip I just recorded usinig your new >> Subcyle Sequence script: >> http://soundcloud.com/pboy/subcycle-sequence >> >> Can't wait to try this out with other instruments and in a more >> prepared context! >> >> Per >> >> > --000e0cd6b2ccb163fc04995513eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol! that's completely bonkers...love it!

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:=
Love that gl= itch stuff. It sounds like an advanced Andr=E8 la Fosse style.
Yo= u're great, Per !

-f

2011/1/8 Per Boyse= n <perboysen@gmail.com>
<= br>
On Fri, Jan 7, 20= 11 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com> wrote:
> This script will divide the loop into "slices" equal
> to the current subcycle length, then create a new layer
> containing repetitions of just the current subcycle. =A0Each
> time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create
> a new layer containing the next subcycle. =A0When you reach the
> end it wraps back to the first subcycle.


Thanks, Jeff. Here's an audio clip I just recorded usinig your new
Subcyle Sequence script:
= http://soundcloud.com/pboy/subcycle-sequence

Can't wait to try this out with other instruments and in a more
prepared context!

Per



--000e0cd6b2ccb163fc04995513eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 8 13:37:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B98418347E; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4HQFXkQfW0nsl33awC55CyIPnbNzC8yGHeWQop2SEKI=; b=FUc3agaa8yd5u3Am1AbKNucC4d7tGTIT2XNUM/PYoI61x9WKc++zs+vmPhsSK/CBg3 /JQdNSCRN5tsdUIeULh+HPZxoFRJaXshXXlcR7ITUbeu0R/NU98EpdidT6uVh/BYtxK/ pi6ju1VtYektum2/Vqx11M6DfmHzlTQoe/MuU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Tqba0aKYhZ0VIAoCL5nQOpeFNiEquS+jxNhdXDVRIzASnb7aGja9LTuwqjAEKy4Bnh Jn7GPqmFqVV1FtoTW9Xa978LaEtDKSzW+2IGNRKo9TeO9JZHeIz0bxiL2wlZRxv9fooo GlSelOJvVYTjiUdUKWFT30SoRrwTGNNofItic= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:37:17 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1012855d9bb049955d593 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:37:18 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1012855d9bb049955d593 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i still can't get this to work :O( it just shuffles slice zero, no matter how many times i run it if i change currentslice to zero instead of -1, then it just repeats slice 1 and never advances when it reaches the cycle boundary it goes a bit bonkers as well - it sees to halve the slice length - weird sim On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Try this one. The bug was that the math assumes that that subcycles > are numbered from zero but the Shuffle function wants them numbered from 1. > I just tested this one and it seems to work. From this basis we could do > other things > like binding it to several MIDI notes and having the note number select > which slice > to play. > > Oh and Per, I'm not getting any clicks when I do this so this may have been > fixed > in 1.43. One thing to check though, open the Global Parameters window and > check > the value for "Fade Frames", make sure it is 128. > > > Jeff > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > !name Subcycle Sequence > > # Variable containing the current 'slice' in the sequence > Variable global currentSlice -1 > > # The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles > # so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle > Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount > > if currentSlice == -1 > # first time here, make a shuffle pattern with > # the current subcycle > set currentSlice subCycleNumber + (subCycleCount * cycleNumber) > > else > # we've already done the shuffle, undo back to the original layer > Undo > > # calculate the next slice > set currentSlice currentSlice + 1 > if currentSlice >= slices > # wrap around to the beginning > set currentSlice 0 > endif > endif > > # internally subcycles/slices are numbered from 0 > # but the Shuffle command wants them numbered from 1 > Variable shuffleSlice currentSlice + 1 > > Message Shuffling $shuffleSlice slice out of $slices > Shuffle slices shuffleSlice > > > --000e0cd1012855d9bb049955d593 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i still can't get this to work :O(

it just shuffles slice zero, = no matter how many times i run it

if i change currentslice to zero i= nstead of -1, then it just repeats slice 1 and never advances

when i= t reaches the cycle boundary it goes a bit bonkers as well - it sees to hal= ve the slice length - weird

sim

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:36 PM, J= eff Larson <jef= f@zonemobius.com> wrote:
Try this one. =A0The bug was that the math assumes that that subcycles
are numbered from zero but the Shuffle function wants them numbered from 1.=
I just tested this one and it seems to work. =A0From this basis we could do= other things
like binding it to several MIDI notes and having the note number select whi= ch slice
to play.

Oh and Per, I'm not getting any clicks when I do this so this may have = been fixed
in 1.43. =A0One thing to check though, open the Global Parameters window an= d check
the value for "Fade Frames", make sure it is 128.


Jeff

---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -----
!name Subcycle Sequence

# Variable containing the current 'slice' in the sequence
Variable global currentSlice -1

# The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles
# so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle
Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount

if currentSlice =3D=3D -1
=A0 # first time here, make a shuffle pattern with
=A0 # the current subcycle
=A0 set currentSlice subCycleNumber + (subCycleCount * cycleNumber)

else
=A0 # we've already done the shuffle, undo back to the original layer<= br> =A0 Undo

=A0 # calculate the next slice
=A0 set currentSlice currentSlice + 1
=A0 if currentSlice >=3D slices
=A0 =A0 =A0# wrap around to the beginning
=A0 =A0 =A0set currentSlice 0
=A0 endif
endif

# internally subcycles/slices are numbered from 0
# but the Shuffle command wants them numbered from 1
Variable shuffleSlice currentSlice + 1

Message Shuffling $shuffleSlice slice out of $slices
Shuffle slices shuffleSlice



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<4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:15:36 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6b2ccf3b1b00499573439 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:15:37 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6b2ccf3b1b00499573439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok, my bad. i had the button assigned to an old shuffle script i wasn't using any more as well as the subcycle script. works perfectly on 1.42 and 1.43! i'm such a numpty On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i still can't get this to work :O( > > it just shuffles slice zero, no matter how many times i run it > > if i change currentslice to zero instead of -1, then it just repeats slice > 1 and never advances > > when it reaches the cycle boundary it goes a bit bonkers as well - it sees > to halve the slice length - weird > > sim > > --000e0cd6b2ccf3b1b00499573439 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok, my bad. i had the button assigned to an old shuffle script i wasn't= using any more as well as the subcycle script. works perfectly on 1.42 and= 1.43!

i'm such a numpty

On Sa= t, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com><= /span> wrote:
i still can't= get this to work :O(

it just shuffles slice zero, no matter how man= y times i run it

if i change currentslice to zero instead of -1, then it just repeats sl= ice 1 and never advances

when it reaches the cycle boundary it goes = a bit bonkers as well - it sees to halve the slice length - weird

sim

--000e0cd6b2ccf3b1b00499573439-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 8 17:30:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB95918347E; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D289F28.9080401@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 12:30:16 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for January 8, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:30:23 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110108.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #189 January 8, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Juergen Haible The Secret Life of The Secret Life of Trees Trees (none) VA [Bass Odyssey] (no title given) Sequences No. 12 VA [Mark Shreeve] (no title given) Sequences No. 12 VA [Bjorn Lynne] Znork in Z Minor Sequences No. 12 Juta Takahashi Ararat Silence (Lunisolar) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Unita In My Garden Through the Veils (Heartsong) Deuter La Folie 4 Mystery of Light (New Earth) Deuter Enchanted Summer Mystery of Light (New Earth) Night * Deuter The Heron Dreams Mystery of Light (New Earth) Tomas Michaud Embrace In the Mist Beauty and Fire (Starland) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Colossus In the Eye of the Dante's Paradiso (Musae) Project] Eagle VA [Ozone Player] Canto 21 Dante's Paradiso (Musae) Agamemnon Part 1: Agamemnon's Agamemnon (none) Youth Mars Hollow Midnight Mars Hollow (10t) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. 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I hope you will spare some of your va= luable minutes to read the following appeal with a sympathetic mind. =A0 I am Mrs. Rose Didier.. wife to late David Didier Dehdeh who was appointed = Executive Accountant to Cote D'ivoire ( Ivory Coast ) Ministry of Resources= and Energy for severall years. My husband died after a brief illness here = in Cote d'Ivoire and ever since then I decide not to marry again due to my = religious belief. During the period of our marriage, we 're blessed with a = son (Nelson Didier) who is now sixteen years old. =A0 Life became sorrowfull and miserable to me since the death of my beloved hu= sband, and it is even more hopless, due to my cancer illness. It is sad to = say that I have a liver damage (Cancer) and I can't live longer than=A0 fou= r months from now, according to what my doctor told me.=20 =A0 I need you to do me a favour. please! =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 When my late husband wa= s alive he deposited the sum of $6,800,000.00 USD (Six Million Eight Hundre= d Thousand USA Dollars) with a bank here in Abidjan, Cote D'ivoire.The mone= y was registered under Fix Deposit Account and It is still with the bank. =A0 I can't think of any body else trying to kill me, if not my late husband br= other. He sweared and said that he will try by all means to claim the money= in the bank for himself because my son is only 16 years old.=20 We lost almost everything we Inherited from my late husband during the last= political crisis and besides, my late husband brother is giving us trouble= every now and then. =A0 I need you to assist me transfer the money into your bank account and inves= t it for my son Nelson. I believe you can take care of him and give him a g= ood education even when am no more.=20 =A0 I will issue an authorisation ( vital documents ) in your name to enable th= e bank release the money to you before another political crisis arises here= in Ivory Coast. After the transfer of the money into your bank account, my son Nelson shall= relocate to your country to start a new life under your care. =A0 I hope you will not betray this trust if I change the deposit documents to = your name and make you the new beneficiary.. =A0 If you can be of assisatance to us, I will really appreciate it with all my= heart. =A0 This message is very urgent, and must remain confidential for security purp= ose. Okay! Tell it to nobody please. =A0 Remain blessed, Mrs. Rose Didier. =A0 --0-236778598-1294512957=:32507 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings from BURKINA FASO:
 
Let= me start by introduce myself,I am Mr.Sayidi Omar,BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER= (Bank of Africa) Burkina faso.I am writting you this letter based on the l= atest development at our bank which I will like to bring to your personal e= dification.($12,250million transfer claims).This is a legitimate transactio= n and I agree to offer you 30% of this money as my foreign partner after co= nfirmation of the fund in your bank account,If you are interested get back = to me.
 
Yours faithful,
Mr.Sayidi Omar.

My Beloved one
 
With profound res= pect and humble submission, I beg to state the following few lines for your= kind consideration. I hope you will spare some of your valuable minutes to= read the following appeal with a sympathetic mind.
 
I am Mrs. = Rose Didier.. wife to late David Didier Dehdeh who was appointed Executive = Accountant to Cote D'ivoire ( Ivory Coast ) Ministry of Resources and Energ= y for severall years. My husband died after a brief illness here in Cote d'= Ivoire and ever since then I decide not to marry again due to my religious = belief. During the period of our marriage, we 're blessed with a son (Nelso= n Didier) who is now sixteen years old.
 
Life became sorrowfull= and miserable to me since the death of my beloved husband, and it is even = more hopless, due to my cancer illness. It is sad to say that I have a live= r damage (Cancer) and I can't live longer than  four months from now, a= ccording to what my doctor told me.
 
I need you to do me a fav= our. please!
          = ;   
        &nb= sp;         When my late husband wa= s alive he deposited the sum of $6,800,000.00 USD (Six Million Eight Hundre= d Thousand USA Dollars) with a bank here in Abidjan, Cote D'ivoire.The mone= y was registered under Fix Deposit Account and It is still with the bank. 
I can't think of any body else trying to kill me, if not my lat= e husband brother. He sweared and said that he will try by all means to cla= im the money in the bank for himself because my son is only 16 years old. <= BR>We lost almost everything we Inherited from my late husband during the l= ast political crisis and besides, my late husband brother is giving us trouble every now and then.
 
I need you to assist me transf= er the money into your bank account and invest it for my son Nelson. I beli= eve you can take care of him and give him a good education even when am no = more.
 
I will issue an authorisation ( vital documents ) in yo= ur name to enable the bank release the money to you before another politica= l crisis arises here in Ivory Coast.
After the transfer of the money int= o your bank account, my son Nelson shall relocate to your country to start = a new life under your care.
 
I hope you will not betray this tr= ust if I change the deposit documents to your name and make you the new ben= eficiary..
 
If you can be of assisatance to us, I will really a= ppreciate it with all my heart.
 
This message is very urgent, a= nd must remain confidential for security purpose. Okay! Tell it to nobody p= lease.
 
Remain blessed,
Mrs. Rose Didier.
 
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insert only see= ms to work with cycles and i'd like to add on a subcycle. is the only w= ay to do this with a quantised bounce that lasts for one cycle + one subcyc= le?

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--0-1577322860-1294523825=:33058-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 8 22:08:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64E07183477; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 979240.31809.bm@omp1020.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1294524521; bh=sCbNtU/zoZcIzNDzlpUGzdehPkeZZTxh7D6eomC+wBI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0JbHTTd7BcLYnx4zkTXyUHZmTzdkQpJdFFaZxPh0pGkMsAkZHcDJ5V5JuiFu+s8fPc92nLHfDJc4sGExVJMVlS5z+p1EMGkkbtTAKakZOo6xCUpYjMR+J6bAf1pNHLyBa/hGucPPy69e6mMzMy1nBnAmmkcG+3K/HIsE/2D+5uk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Tw65RT3fBLfgG01PE2vz4+tmhpHzLgDAl0U0AkDvZGIAQSlRgKqsf5shH9+R7WNn+euc1+/Qp6nsvieDHbDUaLHFz6Ydy42gVxOKfj4C1aEZsppK7pXv3DuyprZ4PPjQ5H6p2VEpLav+aa1SXJRZoquxH4nfWQeBFxGu5AtaoqA=; Message-ID: <881243.64609.qm@web24615.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lRy3P.wVM1kH_lbxZBq.Km75ePNq95GwBaf8e5Gn6EK9pUD yDWW4JSWk8HorRsNb1qqyB_b3cDRLTl85aRqQFS2gDrwXcnZ.5X.0Po5uJY0 1yUpz3kx_kIfV1N5vhpoq5U4OI.sCb.upn5qQVNYaSVbGbnVec0jH4S2XQQM SFUE0vivQTAUZqUHSQynht_7zpeWeJQ9bWL.ijVg_G7iy6JZYr6JyHws8mqa 47Ev5DjtOSnozmhhuxJzyF8_0xJwFE49SYZ35kgOcyBJpBsxkIh6OOnIDQ08 3bQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:08:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1932113079-1294524521=:64609" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:08:43 +0000 (UTC) --0-1932113079-1294524521=:64609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sim, I asked this exact question a long while ago, so Jeff (I think it was) kind= ly wrote this script for me; !name Insert SubCycle Variable saveQuantize quantize set quantize off Wait subCycle InsertOnly Wait subCycle Record set 8thsPerCycle 8thsPerCycle + 1 set quantize saveQuantize Stephen --- On Sat, 8/1/11, Simeon Harris wrote: From: Simeon Harris Subject: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Saturday, 8 January, 2011, 20:42 ok, having figured out, thanks to jeff, how to trim the end off a loop, i'm= wondering if it's possible to add a bit on? insert only seems to work with cycles and i'd like to add on a subcycle. is= the only way to do this with a quantised bounce that lasts for one cycle += one subcycle? =0A ta sim =0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1932113079-1294524521=:64609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sim,

I asked this exact question a lon= g while ago, so Jeff (I think it was) kindly wrote this script for me;
<= br>!name Insert SubCycle
Variable saveQuantize quantize
set quantize = off
Wait subCycle
InsertOnly
Wait subCycle
Record
set 8thsPe= rCycle 8thsPerCycle + 1
set quantize saveQuantize

Stephen

=
--- On Sat, 8/1/11, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.c= om> wrote:

From: Simeon Harris &= lt;simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
Subject: yet another mobius questio= n! (not another one....!)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Dat= e: Saturday, 8 January, 2011, 20:42

ok, ha= ving figured out, thanks to jeff, how to trim the end off a loop, i'm wonde= ring if it's possible to add a bit on?

insert only seems to work with cycle= s and i'd like to add on a subcycle. is the only way to do this with a quan= tised bounce that lasts for one cycle + one subcycle?
=0A
ta

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=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1932113079-1294524521=:64609-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 8 22:18:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A71A618347E; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:references:from :content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=XV6A2Gvj7an7XYhm8i8PMP0PCFwW5C7DFPdC03wQKrY=; b=VFi/w4s7lG1ZwOo25sSy8D19jMDmvfDcH6yHSsci2Tic63AcIxrJ39g1WQwP8oRD7L Vkwn39u2YmlAl8LTHpIi9dOEZzBXS1KGfdlC3rjjVmwi1/V7t/tdCLnRe8BgprRnVcOE 3YGxQS1pbE6+JpKL0f/+SAefJ1Ux57m1PnNlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=v9bWrfYGGv4ZgmRpWq3X80oafSPxXHaln24H86XPwkGISJvHc8F6bY5D0Q+zfvkbrs u1aNcngekQf+7zsKU3rZhJMO2PydswzQV/+Sl+U0OUblDzuJN2o8V0m7WaUz0DbdP/19 3gnkms/py43t+Na+lSQ0r1dBuIfWqelOxy4rg= Subject: Re: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) References: <881243.64609.qm@web24615.mail.ird.yahoo.com> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-537903192 X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: <881243.64609.qm@web24615.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <78CEE563-891F-4A80-89EA-B3AA3FF57CD9@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:19:56 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: <6ZPp3B.A.ZiF.lKOKNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:18:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-537903192 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Superb, thanks Stephen! Sent from my iPod On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:08, Stephen Scott wrote: > Sim, >=20 > I asked this exact question a long while ago, so Jeff (I think it was) kin= dly wrote this script for me; >=20 > !name Insert SubCycle > Variable saveQuantize quantize > set quantize off > Wait subCycle > InsertOnly > Wait subCycle > Record > set 8thsPerCycle 8thsPerCycle + 1 > set quantize saveQuantize >=20 > Stephen >=20 >=20 > --- On Sat, 8/1/11, Simeon Harris wrote: >=20 > From: Simeon Harris > Subject: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Saturday, 8 January, 2011, 20:42 >=20 > ok, having figured out, thanks to jeff, how to trim the end off a loop, i'= m wondering if it's possible to add a bit on? >=20 > insert only seems to work with cycles and i'd like to add on a subcycle. i= s the only way to do this with a quantised bounce that lasts for one cycle += one subcycle? >=20 > ta >=20 > sim >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-537903192 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Superb, thanks Stephen!

Sent fro= m my iPod

On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:08, Stephen Scott <loopingsteve@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Sim,

I asked this exact question a long while ago, so Jef= f (I think it was) kindly wrote this script for me;

!name Insert SubC= ycle
Variable saveQuantize quantize
set quantize off
Wait subCycle<= br>InsertOnly
Wait subCycle
Record
set 8thsPerCycle 8thsPerCycle + 1=
set quantize saveQuantize

Stephen


--- On Sat, 8/1/1= 1, Simeon Harris <sim= eonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

From: Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
Subject: yet another mobius quest= ion! (not another one....!)
To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Saturday, 8 January, 2011, 20:= 42

ok, having figured out, thanks to jeff, h= ow to trim the end off a loop, i'm wondering if it's possible to add a bit on?

insert only seems to work with cycles= and i'd like to add on a subcycle. is the only way to do this with a quanti= sed bounce that lasts for one cycle + one subcycle?

ta

sim

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Each >> time you run it will reshuffle the original layer and create >> a new layer containing the next subcycle. When you reach the >> end it wraps back to the first subcycle. > > Thanks, Jeff. Here's an audio clip I just recorded usinig your new > Subcyle Sequence script: > http://soundcloud.com/pboy/subcycle-sequence > > Can't wait to try this out with other instruments and in a more > prepared context! > > Per Wow, it's hard to wrap my mind around what that's doing because there are so many manipulations of the subcycle............but it's fascinating to listen to. Cool new technique, especially for real time. 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Note that i have already paid for the delivery charges and insurance certificate.The only fee remaining is the security safe keeping fee, because they don't know when you will be contacting them,based on this you will pay the security keeping fee of $115 before they will dispatch your package to your doorstep address, Contact the Dispatch Director:MR.Joseph Owen with the following information's:First name:Last Name:Telephone:address.Dispatch Director:Mr.Joseph Owen Email Address: accesstrustcouriergha@workmail.co.za Do contact the company immediately with this code (GH524244252528X), MR.MICHAEL KHAN From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 08:55:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20E8F18347D; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 08:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9e7prVgr8xGgTbjW0l7Wy46s8GzTHSaxyT+bpSrLlpQ=; b=xXPguhkkN2zko0vBHUhg+mn1BSxv6PXZc2o/f6b65XUE3SdPs95qjecU+xyyBWiOVF HKp9wpomV0pByzKcFsnzu1UqgOz73IkEgYhIZbb/M5TGGIkUc91u+CTYPkY3F0wZByhM nja+dTpnipahAyXyfz0H0PS8GYeuNctR5AeYY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MUpacgUISubp4C4qEWobk1urCl8dtX+0uI6tdLVo2rJt3CS44l/sqp4fMJkF+scdNW ThZZVWdca6pC3thW9KX7JUDp9PQJKQRwWf1Dm1XWWkrAmYAJuNtQ/TQpChSB4YtKB8Ah 8UIDKCxAhiKOdZhx8mjqIhBvbvg5FitQXp5+Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 00:55:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Selling some gear in Oakland tomorrow From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <9e0fAC.A.0iH.3fXKNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 08:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, In Oakland, California, 21 Grand is having a record swap tomorrow (sunday), from 11-5. 21 Grand is located at 416 25th Street, Oakland, CA. I will be selling the following gear: Sequential Circuits Prophet 2000 sampling keyboard With instruction manual, 25 sample discs and 25 more blank floppy discs $150 http://www.vintagesynth.com/sci/p2000.php Ensoniq EPS-1 sampling keyboard With instruction manual and 54 sample floppy discs $200 http://www.vintagesynth.com/ensoniq/ens_eps.php Line 6 POD 2.0 guitar amp simulator and fx box in box with instruction manual - barely used $100 Korg/ToneworksPandora PX4D portable amp simulator / fx unit in box with instruction manual - barely used $75 Line 6 Tonecore Tap Tremolo pedal In box with instructions, no power supply http://line6.com/tonecore/tapTremolo.html $25 Electro-Harmonix Worm analog wah/phaser/tremolo/vibrato pedal In box with instructions & power supply http://www.ehx.com/products/worm $30 Many cds of varying levels of coolness/obscurity at various prices. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 11:33:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4CE018347D; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sgh2LVWUYJyJn98SsxwsUPLhnF78LC15naTzdBYUFbU=; b=x7OUnSvfa3LofrHR2o8LHPdhj623Vz0a//ryy+F0DL+QWX8TS2vXFJQQkYEIguYqgt 4IR86EHRNVTH37e3lOqj2tpAgkUOoLtrWW3tV8//eVdNELL3n23TBw3EHByeyf2IzY2P WYzzDmnjwyjuHi59bhI4lNuJh03OibYqDcKFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HLBy0GRXkd8KJeCWBEFTfsfiLpn/l42/nGBrGfRTfj7sRUx7fvXYneMBRnAulwG4Ml lkoVas5SguXm0i8IxJDqXRS+CMO8E4tB7K7uNbH+lOJXYYZcrABj8YnOdtbpbj2Rp/yF rCJRWdiXGBPZghCxAvfP//EkFoa1nGyXksNEM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:33:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Lucy in the sky with spam From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00248c05002f2071b5049968395a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:33:43 +0000 (UTC) --00248c05002f2071b5049968395a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anybody else got message from Lucy? ;-) Hello! May the blessings of the season rest upon your life, I found you here ON this site (www.loopers-delight.com) and picked interest in you. My name is lucy. I wish to be in good relationship with you and may be discover ourselves as real partners for life. Please send your email address in my inbox and not site please With this email adderss (lucy_koroma@yahoo.com) If you feel interested write me through the contact. so that i will send you my pictures (Remember the distance or colour does not matter but love matters alot in life) I will be happy to seeing a good responds from you Thanks from my heart; Yours in love, lucy (lucy_koroma@yahoo.com) -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --00248c05002f2071b5049968395a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody else got message from Lucy? ;-)



Hello!
May the bl= essings of the=A0 season=A0 rest upon your life,
I found you here ON thi= s site (www.l= oopers-delight.com) and picked
interest in you. My name is lucy. I wish to be in good relationship with yo= u
and may be discover ourselves as real partners for life. Please sendyour email address in my inbox and not site please
With this email add= erss (lucy_korom= a@yahoo.com)
If you feel interested write me through the contact.
so that i will send= you my pictures
(Remember the distance or colour does not matter but lo= ve matters alot in life)
I will be happy to seeing a good responds from = you
Thanks from my heart;
Yours in love,
lucy (lucy_koroma@yahoo.com)





--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://pet= rilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/= PetriLahtinen
http://pet= rilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
-------------------------------------------= --------
"Only become professional musician if there is no choice.&= quot; -Robert Fripp-
---------------------------------------------------
"Some people ne= ver go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Buko= wski-

--00248c05002f2071b5049968395a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 11:48:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A654C18347D; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48AAEAEB1AA8423C90A55CA1F332874F@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Lucy in the sky with spam Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:48:41 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01CBAFF3.297BBD00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:48:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CBAFF3.297BBD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ?Yes, alas. From: Petri Lahtinen=20 Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 11:33 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Lucy in the sky with spam Anybody else got message from Lucy? ;-) Hello! May the blessings of the season rest upon your life, I found you here ON this site (www.loopers-delight.com) and picked interest in you. My name is lucy. I wish to be in good relationship with = you and may be discover ourselves as real partners for life. Please send your email address in my inbox and not site please With this email adderss (lucy_koroma@yahoo.com) If you feel interested write me through the contact. so that i will send you my pictures (Remember the distance or colour does not matter but love matters alot = in life) I will be happy to seeing a good responds from you Thanks from my heart; Yours in love, lucy (lucy_koroma@yahoo.com) --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert = Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." = -Charles Bukowski- ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CBAFF3.297BBD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, alas.
 
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 11:33 AM
Subject: Lucy in the sky with spam
 
Anybody=20 else got message from Lucy? ;-)



Hello!
May the = blessings of=20 the  season  rest upon your life,
I found you here ON this = site (www.loopers-delight.com) and picked
interest in = you. My=20 name is lucy. I wish to be in good relationship with you
and may be = discover=20 ourselves as real partners for life. Please send
your email address = in my=20 inbox and not site please
With this email adderss (lucy_koroma@yahoo.com)
If you feel interested = write me=20 through the contact.
so that i will send you my pictures
(Remember = the=20 distance or colour does not matter but love matters alot in life)
I = will be=20 happy to seeing a good responds from you
Thanks from my = heart;
Yours in=20 love,
lucy (lucy_koroma@yahoo.com)





--=20
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
---------------= ------------------------------------
"Only=20 become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert=20 Fripp-
---------------------------------------------------
"Some = people=20 never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles=20 Bukowski-

------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CBAFF3.297BBD00-- From love20y2k@yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 14:39:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.92]) by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EFF5F18345A for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.62] by nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2011 14:38:45 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.38] by tm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2011 14:38:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1038.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2011 14:38:45 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 881033.42039.bm@omp1038.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 78563 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jan 2011 14:38:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294583925; bh=gw90vH4xF5NGsQeEIy3xbA/lICwMrYwhMvvCkzCooAE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EeQkiDfG6+XkZf3+2RXVsCIBDFoSnBSkx1/D+L857n5p/feLjT/w8QnO9tarrrhO2zO0Y+2rNhBXBbxSAfH/fXhdlUA8HUTB734ZOGTDl6Clq10N3J4tjqHLqzym3tI1nlP8HJyT5W+XTc20boVwJUUl+FF1TpsoeExbixJgiCU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mVTYnWo5tuwpuSh0m7nWfF/5/K33cisqWDR8+SbMQ0Tik2P1JE08qo2X6TIls+OpslzYpi0VIDMY8ss7EnqklYJoeugX2L56LXZwHhjuh3Bw1yfqxz2L4JgL5+Lt2mQgc4jVyZGsnzdHbyLenCXHwHSyMlSd6d58R6xFisX3P94=; Message-ID: <268587.73725.qm@web111206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HoBtelYVM1m0UIMdrieVgmQyFfrReWbGBbvO5FSc14OHwKA A1QzbjIwcZJlq8RTc.TGsoXUEDavBqeliqJNizWG_LyvlBQx4UNWNG_PDNTn ShzgL73kusN0Jxnvuh2KBbTjtv3i8km8FQZoUxcD8EQZ8ARJzmwY1r15x5kp pDlegV1ak4wslpSBgY7cBNcac4G58Pa17hVP9WwmRjw4UnkZZavWHc4Zo57B r8LPgOFY0AvtWNWITTV08KDb0tOBd.eVzrR8vSPA0bs6Dhm69bpVnYJTX95K oNYIAAa8Jikc7lrSZBpDA.2HFxnszw8CMVhpBUOn.eLzdX547bBF2fMQKVwe MUmNCi1Vz5jXucwanjLzQeqf0EInG.DmjwLhzwzrRaQ-- Received: from [121.121.19.123] by web111206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 06:38:45 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 06:38:45 -0800 (PST) From: mrs mercy adams Subject: CONTACT MAY BANK (MALAYSIA) FOR YOUR ATM MASTER CARD To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CONTACT MAY BANK (MALAYSIA) FOR YOUR ATM MASTER CARD Attention: Dear, I have been waiting for you since to come down here and pick your Bank Draft of Four Million Dollars (US$4M) but did not heard from you since that time then I went and deposited the Bank Draft with MAY BANK KUALA LUMPUR MALAYSIA, because I travelled to Hong Kong to see my boss and will not come back till next month end. I have arranged with them to make your payment to you with their new ATM MASTER CARD which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM MACHINE around the globe/world. You have to contact the MAY BANK KUALA LUMPUR MALAYSIA with your full contact informations such as follows: 1) YOUR FULL NAME .................. (2) YOUR RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS........... (3) YOUR POSTAL ADDRESS.................. (4) YOUR PHONE AND FAX NUMBER................ (5) YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS.................. (6) YOUR OCCUPATION........................ (7) YOUR OFFICIAL AGE...................... (8) YOUR PHOTOGRAPH ................ (9) YOUR COUNTRY........................... However, Kindly contact the below person who is in position to release your ATM Master CARD. E:mail (maybandeparmalay00012@hotmail.my) NAME: REV DR GODWIN E.ANDRESON DIRECTOR, ATM PAYMENT DEPARTMENT MAY BANK KUALA LUMPUR MALAYSIA. So try to contact them as soon as possible to quicken the process of your Atm Card before your Bank Draft gets Expired.Let me know as soon as you receive your ATM Master Card. Thanks. Mrs Mercy Adams From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 16:05:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C64B718347A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=huT472iyAAAA:8 a=_QAUFXVaA5Ba9JcNHX0A:9 a=nQqd-nmvUWKONTwTPU9aO_w6NGoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=0wH16MptqwUA:10 a=MMEzoRbyNRoA:10 Message-Id: <8F8C52FE-CDAA-4AE4-A779-FBB13F499386@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Bebe Barron Interview Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 08:05:06 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing that Chris. On Jan 3, 2011, at 6:28 PM, samba - wrote: > http://www.janebrockman.org/BebeBarron/BebeBarron.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 16:54:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B60E18347A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=v9IqP8JHjyfci3/5us8DHlI27ddvQpA8YeyHEAbcLN8=; b=hob3k7lg5HyYbJ0/kGTQmp06m4WAnIYCDgWwMZQ5E8JJ60OXy3uFZnNB/TSC+cLCUu pdhJPqDGetHW7B8OMsQcQjYMCP3KuTyKg6g/yBkxbVNNueTPBAQR8LiG4zLnf5IhJSGp L+IeWmJ2LLNTDm0U8nBvbVFmlF6liu+Y2hCfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=g0p3FBxrPLVCRsPj0ehB+MYDIrUjvOQDDQmsmqP9B1Kk7uVi6U1gL1sz6Tqul92rcO 5HWd9Etj+HGSSP5yKwvMpfEtkztu//IFTPAk2SzxbckE46+NeQst9zAWRsVfAFf6CQ9p uReX01aLSWiEKIVs6qybaUhGNQiqHgvVbSO4w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <78CEE563-891F-4A80-89EA-B3AA3FF57CD9@googlemail.com> References: <881243.64609.qm@web24615.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <78CEE563-891F-4A80-89EA-B3AA3FF57CD9@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:54:38 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) From: Simeon Harris To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd52e70f7b78b04996cb459 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:54:39 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd52e70f7b78b04996cb459 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok, i've tried adding this script to 1.42 and 1.43 and it causes mobius to crash. could someone else try it and let me know how you get on? sim On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > Superb, thanks Stephen! > > Sent from my iPod > > On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:08, Stephen Scott wrote: > > Sim, > > I asked this exact question a long while ago, so Jeff (I think it was) > kindly wrote this script for me; > > !name Insert SubCycle > Variable saveQuantize quantize > set quantize off > Wait subCycle > InsertOnly > Wait subCycle > Record > set 8thsPerCycle 8thsPerCycle + 1 > set quantize saveQuantize > > Stephen > > > --- On *Sat, 8/1/11, Simeon Harris * wrote: > > > From: Simeon Harris > Subject: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Saturday, 8 January, 2011, 20:42 > > ok, having figured out, thanks to jeff, how to trim the end off a loop, i'm > wondering if it's possible to add a bit on? > > insert only seems to work with cycles and i'd like to add on a subcycle. is > the only way to do this with a quantised bounce that lasts for one cycle + > one subcycle? > > ta > > sim > > > --000e0cd52e70f7b78b04996cb459 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok, i've tried adding this script to 1.42 and 1.43 and it causes mobius= to crash.

could someone else try it and let me know how you get on?=

sim

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:19 = PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
Superb, thanks Stephen!

Sent from my iPod

On 8 Jan 2011, at 22:08, Stephen Scott <= ;loopingsteve= @yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Sim,

I asked this exact question= a long while ago, so Jeff (I think it was) kindly wrote this script for me= ;

!name Insert SubCycle
Variable saveQuantize quantize
set quantize off=
Wait subCycle
InsertOnly
Wait subCycle
Record
set 8thsPerCy= cle 8thsPerCycle + 1
set quantize saveQuantize

Stephen


--- On Sat, 8/1/11, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com&g= t; wrote:

From: Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
Subject: yet a= nother mobius question! (not another one....!)
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Date: Saturday, 8 January, 2011, 20:42

ok, having figured out, = thanks to jeff, how to trim the end off a loop, i'm wondering if it's possible to add a bit on?

insert only seems to work with c= ycles and i'd like to add on a subcycle. is the only way to do this wit= h a quantised bounce that lasts for one cycle + one subcycle?

ta

sim


--000e0cd5d0568ec41104996cdab9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 17:15:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 513B818347D; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:15:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0lgRGkUXu3C0+f9RwPHEXtaya9kqlYbjs4ddbwKzZg0=; b=IJZmQpSLP32YkbyXV/S+qRB3BgpNF1BkYdxFP5qjL83+yt00j/97gV/YMoXbB3wfEO F9pNWR2KBYQUcz0qsEv5CYNWBFlOh593dxSPtyCBrXIp9bDcoLrV/mnWr+L8u8/901zq OMDuaR8gxlPUst46vduNvn7kOUN47p2bglKAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=K+BdmMkwdHL6NMdv2aM+3Sbk42fM2KRIHE2VZUvqY3pVSDaI1/NhXFAtEpcY2y6ONm hTBbNHD01yXPQ4t1QCsr1Imrwun/Kgi42iDdUCeTw7e+eivwzyiy4EDqccK5kA9EPvXs ve38odzURoiZ/RYmBEjey3TgOkOh66DHozcNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <881243.64609.qm@web24615.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <78CEE563-891F-4A80-89EA-B3AA3FF57CD9@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:15:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:15:30 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > > don't worry - sorted Please, what was it? I have that script on my to-check list. Is there a bad line in it? Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 17:28:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E300218347E; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:references:from :content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=n4V18SGD+GdaXN6/X+ABVQWL+4slc+ZMgO0NkGko1kk=; b=KMBECuAuqtzz3T4SWAKi4Qh9as0FQKW8ZqKKD4sE0DhTC/336Gf0HByLjKg9qLSUh0 H64/cIY153/UGHhu3m9oF4WnfuXixh3pfaNo62UUnd1NPOwOORXYf6g55/Ikyxc82Mjb n1v+IE07daqsiI4PymsY//q1b/0rLDvVboizM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=Q0B11abkDxnxeANtXc6hkilliiJ/6V1M22Gn6+dl3NmZLLbNW1tmaZA1zGZUey76wj jNC3LHubxx3S6SBcZZU00OtLCmscFB5Wo+orRAeQ+RH1cHH4//FSS7cOJuw5fR3+7A+H 1nWFHgbOLPL/3qicLb4/Xdx53N/xubLc+e5M0= Subject: Re: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) References: <881243.64609.qm@web24615.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <78CEE563-891F-4A80-89EA-B3AA3FF57CD9@googlemail.com> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <83EA9E34-AADC-4E89-B8A9-AF40CBD2AF63@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:20:20 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: <1ddE-.A.OBH.4AfKNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:28:24 +0000 (UTC) No the original script is fine. It was something I'd added to it that was ba= d.=20 Sent from my iPod On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:15, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >>=20 >> don't worry - sorted >=20 >=20 > Please, what was it? I have that script on my to-check list. Is there > a bad line in it? >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 17:33:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18D5818347E; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wQrWQ+VL8pUi3WYrO2VWCgvcA5g86X+yRg/AbJRmCGw=; b=aIMwGss+IUnxDkl0brv4b3kd2RMjuNZkpcKHB6T2nv0zCvJO+CiBIlJx99WXXliGmn 2U9CR5jPpzYAb/yr5DJ9n7cd6t7Mhi4WF+X6EAA6JwPDxZKsvstxDsx6KobqHkDCcUpN e+k5LPxlhJtWtwytwioeSlDY5OO43oNiY2Q/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OlCg+3A3Z7/18yVhAo9iE3vONoYI7P06e0g5dmO1/mY5Pa3FOk4V9aTyM/rcmguckZ mRNeyaUF1//1N2b6Ga6GlOz8gKTyFKjEzu+8Z0+iV9ucTxR7KnXXLFkoK0TAjPFBTtjb eUBr4nuUcoEmHXIL7LkQEGs37CLK5Gt9Ut/SE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83EA9E34-AADC-4E89-B8A9-AF40CBD2AF63@googlemail.com> References: <881243.64609.qm@web24615.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <78CEE563-891F-4A80-89EA-B3AA3FF57CD9@googlemail.com> <83EA9E34-AADC-4E89-B8A9-AF40CBD2AF63@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:33:40 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b83c08fc99704996d4057 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:33:43 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b83c08fc99704996d4057 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What was bad? Scripts shouldn't cause Mobius to crash no matter what you put in them. You may get error messages sent to the console but they shouldn't crash. Jeff On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > No the original script is fine. It was something I'd added to it that was > bad. > > Sent from my iPod > > On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:15, Per Boysen wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Simeon Harris > > wrote: > >> > >> don't worry - sorted > > > > > > Please, what was it? I have that script on my to-check list. Is there > > a bad line in it? > > > > Per > > > > --0016363b83c08fc99704996d4057 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What was bad? =A0Scripts shouldn't cause Mobius to crash no matter what= you
put in them. =A0You may get error messages sent to the console but= they
shouldn't crash.

Jeff


On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Simeon = Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
No the original script is fine. It was something I'd added to it that w= as bad.

Sent from my iPod

On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:15, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Simeon Harris
> <simeonharris40@go= oglemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> don't worry - sorted
>
>
> Please, what was it? I have that script on my to-check list. Is there<= br> > a bad line in it?
>
> Per
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--0016363b83c08fc99704996d4057-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 17:52:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB76F183486; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 993516.59041.bm@omp1031.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294595551; bh=1CuBICOTgoODeI8KlKLK9lgeEwuWWB/fSSs2O0KhEIA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MunduHdxMimyqUST3J2QExH8guhXRiOTOhDGJAhrCjylwCzcOVq/ActpPsDQ1PPruzoOb6M7hAIElc6MnVccoLh6q0y6Rd7N6yk/+Xq379n6ahHaeT8BJtgLaLgM6NLsPK36vG/rSRiqLSP+1qklDcr1Z2MduyEJMD2aTsYnm/M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GR4miJjCL96ieJ0zahG40I3fkxYu1ueG0MWV6WSFZIYe6JCOacf/HKis0H5SmGEA+/pOhCp1hS1n6om3KQeu3NFo1srkGDzN9oV56ktcq9FBmR55ak7T7qy0PMBPBZelJWxdIBlgUXpSje3l4Iok/zBlk5p0RaKMhd8vkwe0YPE=; Message-ID: <714476.13032.qm@web59616.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7yD0AE0VM1krlFKOy.aV3764mAjV6QoY5CM7fHwto8kej96 m03XEGT4nQKhzaf.YnquqQdj77rOdH2JXgDnpqBOlCt7PnDUNUHId2Bk.8WD ovViFQpyEHdrHoZ4IJAb2Pyf3kMK95rGrDb2ZeXKN3a3_Cvis9NpALod0z6_ 0QZfrc6HOuzarDPvKnTaC8hHil0cYr6oaTBJzKEMrTcmtE0pLDxlTeCLy7iq Ory9uFgkGUpwz6ki8Rly4sRwDsDBm2JH9n6xHn3hOZwmiqX.6vEiv_cr4.On WcBDxAUpdrgejgZC4OIuWS_5knVwteKg8xhi36bp7HWJP5vSpuQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 09:52:31 -0800 (PST) From: chuspa Subject: Re: RIP Mick Karn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1086012427-1294595551=:13032" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:52:32 +0000 (UTC) --0-1086012427-1294595551=:13032 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable very sad sad, about his missing, still so young him and his sound forever a= lso. thanks so much mick for your misterious, liquid and pull-up bassy playing!! luis prado --- On Wed, 5/1/11, Charles Zwicky wrote: From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: RIP Mick Karn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Wednesday, 5 January, 2011, 3:07 PM Bill, When I originally posted this news here, I did so out of respect and defere= nce to his contribution to music and art. I don't think you should have changed it to "OT"..=A0 =A0 Too many loopers = involved in his career and=A0 his composition style is quite loopy... -Chuck > I just heard the sad news=A0 about Mick Karn loosing his battle with canc= er.=A0 What a truly unique and beautiful bassist he was. His fretlless bass= playing was as orignal sounding as any I've ever heard, a very vocal sound= ,=A0 melodic yet grounded and earthy and funky.=A0 listen to Polytown with = Torn and Bozzio or Tin Drum by Japan to hear what I mean >=A0 A great one has joine the great band beyond > Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> Sad sad day....=A0 I met him through David Torn when Polytown did a show= in Minneapolis.=A0 At the time David Sylvian was living there and both Tor= n and Karn were perplexed at why he didn't bother to turn up at their gig.. >>=20 >> I'll miss him. >>=20 >> -Chuck --=20 ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix =0A=0A=0A --0-1086012427-1294595551=:13032 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=0A=0A=0A=0A   --0-1086012427-1294595551=:13032-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 18:15:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F26D18347E; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9md5IaAGXkr7y/Rjq/HbRsP+mlvdlS6w0Olcc+kcEg0=; b=R63mrdwijgoAnLbSrwShzpFdCPMDlpWPs0OuzJxl/KdYdCKb5fnN+QUE5Geu0MMlYg fH3UpT0BMr9p4SscYplfY29P86T6YbmzGTi7iav+31LjUmeaLAq4pTOlzJofbppJpR0h Iudtjfe8cM8+8OtlsGKfhnesPFmK6l0NauSpg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=o10f9/dmY78pLg6Q8L7qwv5yoPRh1Jo4tK0JeAByafrRZqTRuiqYGOeRNtJwhPrYwS NfKKToz3ja6vTUdsiLE10IAaSFKgPUnnYel8dONHhpmxWvtbmZgRKJ/oB1RfzADTT469 UyZcnznSvnMxWVb9N1UW8XLFGM3NY0k3zB1wU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <881243.64609.qm@web24615.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <78CEE563-891F-4A80-89EA-B3AA3FF57CD9@googlemail.com> <83EA9E34-AADC-4E89-B8A9-AF40CBD2AF63@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:15:47 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet another mobius question! (not another one....!) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a8d82e8d1004996dd725 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:15:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a8d82e8d1004996dd725 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i added "play" as the last line. i've noticed recently (as i've been playing around with scripts a lot) that if my mobius doesn't like something in the script, it won't let me add it sim On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > What was bad? Scripts shouldn't cause Mobius to crash no matter what you > put in them. You may get error messages sent to the console but they > shouldn't crash. > > Jeff > > > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> No the original script is fine. It was something I'd added to it that was >> bad. >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:15, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Simeon Harris >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> don't worry - sorted >> > >> > >> > Please, what was it? I have that script on my to-check list. Is there >> > a bad line in it? >> > >> > Per >> > >> >> > --000e0cd6a8d82e8d1004996dd725 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i added "play" as the last line. i've noticed recently (as i&= #39;ve been playing around with scripts a lot) that if my mobius doesn'= t like something in the script, it won't let me add it

sim

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Jeff Larson = <jeff.lar= son@sailpoint.com> wrote:
What was bad? =A0Scripts shouldn't cause Mobius to crash no matter what= you
put in them. =A0You may get error messages sent to the console but= they
shouldn't crash.

Jeff


On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Simeon = Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
No the original script is fine. It was something I'd added to it that w= as bad.

Sent from my iPod

On 9 Jan 2011, at 17:15, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Simeon Harris
> <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> don't worry - sorted
>
>
> Please, what was it? I have that script on my to-check list. Is there<= br> > a bad line in it?
>
> Per
>



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thanks so much mick f= or your misterious, liquid and pull-up bassy playing!!

=

luis prado

--- On Wed, 5/1/11, Charles Zwicky= <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:

From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: = OT: RIP Mick Karn
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Received: W= ednesday, 5 January, 2011, 3:07 PM

Bill,
When I originally posted this news here, I did so out of respect and = deference to his contribution to music and art.

I don't think you sh= ould have changed it to "OT"..    Too many loopers involved in hi= s career and  his composition style is quite loopy...

-Chuck
=


> I just heard the sad news  about Mick Karn loosing hi= s battle with cancer.  What a truly unique and beautiful bassist he wa= s. His fretlless bass playing was as orignal sounding as any I've ever hear= d, a very vocal sound,  melodic yet grounded and earthy and funky.&nbs= p; listen to Polytown with Torn and Bozzio or Tin Drum by Japan to hear wha= t I mean
>  A great one has joine the great band beyond
> = Bill
>
>
>
>
>> Sad sad day....  = I met him through David Torn when Polytown did a show in Minneapolis. = At the time David Sylvian was living there and both Torn and Karn were per= plexed at why he didn't bother to turn up at their gig..
>>
&g= t;> I'll miss him.
>>
>> -Chuck

--
...
= http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwick= y

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=0A=0A=0A=0A   --0-2113602416-1294598954=:20336-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 18:55:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 310EF18347E; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=q8yocqjYMG2uGVM03SC0t0pNLljxI2ti7u2beX3TR6w=; b=JcBADe+kKEAr8pURmAh5DCoZ/wsJeaDJZi6RM2Jubm+SCbHuV96qYyV+NNoQk25bKb K1BXZrADjPEbhy7LNMGFM1CkAdqgEhcRRVErm3lv0K3nmdqZTU8u3I33YLtWpv7RA/sa bh8uz9znECWxHY7sUqkqWq17P9EkZdDjhv8qg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lnTTii+Xvjy5LRoFAOAV+gld4U5esV5/tWCXo85W2Mbjr4zgHevF8TYs7CIxgXyBA+ XAYhhOYqd5YCi3BX83W9lK8sR0IGwk1VbeorlEzDOTH1cfoQISEi57S5YBpWyim9GQ9W BAb0BGHOdACOiS63xtRENRMouZEQ4fFuqUGAg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:55:47 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: a fun little mobius script and a question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd52e703a4f8c04996e66a9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:55:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd52e703a4f8c04996e66a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok, so here's what i've come up with using the trimend thing to create "reichian" loops !name copypan set switchquantize off set emptytrackaction copy set pan 0 rateshift 12 NextTrack instantmultiply4 set 8thspercycle 16 set pan 127 rateshift 12 variable lastslice subcyclecount * 2 variable trimslice lastslice -1 wait until subcycle trimslice Trimend this is for 1.43 - if you're still on 1.42, you'll need to change line 3 to "set trackcopy sound" play with the 8thspercycle value to control the degree of rhythmic shift and play with the instantmultiply value to control how often the shift occurs very high values of 8thspercycle give a nice "two pianos" feel and low values give a more rhythmic feel. one question though if i add "wait cycle" at the start, to make the whole thing happen on the cycle boundary, i get no audio copied into track 2 - why is this??? sim --000e0cd52e703a4f8c04996e66a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok, so here's what i've come up with using the trimend thing to cre= ate "reichian" loops

!name copypan
set switchquantize o= ff
set emptytrackaction copy
set pan 0
rateshift 12
NextTrack<= br> instantmultiply4
set 8thspercycle 16
set pan 127
rateshift 12
v= ariable lastslice subcyclecount * 2
variable trimslice lastslice -1
w= ait until subcycle trimslice
Trimend

this is for 1.43 - if you= 9;re still on 1.42, you'll need to change line 3 to "set trackcopy= sound"

play with the 8thspercycle value to control the degree of rhythmic shif= t and play with the instantmultiply value to control how often the shift oc= curs
very high values of 8thspercycle give a nice "two pianos"= feel and low values give a more rhythmic feel.

one question though

if i add "wait cycle" at the start= , to make the whole thing happen on the cycle boundary, i get no audio copi= ed into track 2 - why is this???

sim


--000e0cd52e703a4f8c04996e66a9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 20:07:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDCED18347E; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 15:07:00 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: Lucy in the sky with spam In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20110109200659.003B424875@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6qK6kD.A.PvD.jVhKNB@hemlock> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:06:59 +0000 (UTC) I didn't get a message from Lucy, but I did get a message and photo from a young beautiful 19 year old.... She obviously had no idea what a crusty old fart she had sent a message too!!!! Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca Ontario, Canada At 06:33 AM 1/9/2011, you wrote: >Anybody else got message from Lucy? ;-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 20:35:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F270818347E; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:35:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cLzdY2kCUW+o0DhstPnKKms1oaY+tWh9Z3MR2kpFxmY=; b=TGxuP24RBEpZLKpQreCiuwSRL05b5guN/BVIPT4W3M4sjBsxQiFi+Uk5MmPMForcy7 oh94hV+hWIhHjmbeGIgTzER3W1pP2+XpZ3yrAPCSGSvdbP9N5PsC+ozcdkyiCEioKNDL Hv0LmTmU7VdJhj2SnEnVz9ESQ0ekwiCF+bSng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cAPKuJprPnr3wpLhyRSWdcCEjQvYdjQtjb1IRaEN2Y5o9Eu+kdDE/z/X5MBDXelLuP fZxFxkamX0vrh7fXmXq0jlTJS03s5a+z98kg96Hd9pzdSPo2mT3/5hTjAHwNOif63y5I QRGuPnI8DAeTVHQqjZFzvAHVD5LY1ooMhFsqM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <714476.13032.qm@web59616.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <714476.13032.qm@web59616.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:35:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Mick Karn From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300513f6e689ac04996fca51 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:35:32 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300513f6e689ac04996fca51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, I have been completely offline for a whole week so I the news about Mick Karn had not reach me until an hour ago. Very very sad to hear that he passed away. I really loved his way of playing bass for Japan, David Sylvian and his own solo albums. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ --20cf300513f6e689ac04996fca51 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I have been completely offline for a whole week so I the news about Mi= ck Karn=A0had not reach me until an hour ago. Very very sad to hear that he= passed away. I really loved his way of playing bass for Japan, David Sylvi= an and his own solo albums.
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--20cf300513f6e689ac04996fca51-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 20:41:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69C47183476; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2A1D74.7040508@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:41:24 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Goodman CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Lucy in the sky with spam References: <48AAEAEB1AA8423C90A55CA1F332874F@ELUK1> In-Reply-To: <48AAEAEB1AA8423C90A55CA1F332874F@ELUK1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:41:35 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > I wish to be in good relationship with you errrrr. This one says it all. This person is obviously from Dayton, Ohio. From info@hangseng.com Sun Jan 9 21:21:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4171 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at hemlock; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:21:56 UTC Received: from dns.jgps.tpc.edu.tw (dns.jgps.tpc.edu.tw [163.20.71.1]) by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DB0183461; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dns.jgps.tpc.edu.tw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dns.jgps.tpc.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573648F8FAE8; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 03:11:10 +0800 (CST) Received: from jgps.tpc.edu.tw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dns.jgps.tpc.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093F88F8FAD4; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 03:11:10 +0800 (CST) From: "Dr Raymond Kuo Fung CHIEN" Reply-To: raymondkuofungchienhung@gmail.com Subject: WRITE ME Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 03:11:10 +0800 Message-Id: <20110109191110.M1901@hangseng.com> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 66.96.224.37 (9861013) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: undisclosed-recipients:; X-NetStation-Status: PASS X-NetStation-SPAM: 0.00/6.00-8.00 Dear Sir/Madam, I am Dr Raymond Kuo Fung CHIEN Executive Director and Chief Financial Officer of the operations of the Hang Seng Bank Ltd.I have a secured business suggestion for you. 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(raymondkuofungchienhung@gmail.com) Kind Regards, Dr Raymond Kuo Fung CHIEN. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 21:39:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by hemlock.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B91518347E; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101090112 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-09_07:2011-01-07,2011-01-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Subject: Re: MPC 1000 & 2 EDP+ loosing sync From: John Metzler In-reply-to: <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 13:38:08 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy. Thanks for chiming in. In case you didn't see any of my other = emails, here is a description that very carefully explains just about = everything you might need to know regarding the issuers I'm having. And = anybody else is welcome to chime in too. =20 _________________________________________________ Here is the info... I want my looping rig to be reliable, trustworthy, and solid. I want to = program songs and automate performances with my MPC 1000 and my 2 EDP's = and be able to go out and perform with predictable accuracy. I don't = want to be worried that they're going to be reacting to phantom commands = or that my Bass and my Guitar might go out of sync at any time. Aren't = they suppose to be pretty solid as far as locking in sync? Well I'm = having some issues and I'd like to figure out what I'm doing wrong. =20 This is what I am using... MPC 1000 Echoplex Digital Pro + w/efc7 (#1 for guitar to it's own amp) Echoplex Digital Pro + w/efc7 (#2 for Bass to it's own amp) FCB1010 Alesis QSR AdrenaLinn II Novation SL37 ReMOTE I have 2 BlackFace EDP+ taking commands from an MPC 1000. I have a = relatively short song that I have sequenced, less than 160 measures of = 4/4. Both EDP's Sync=3DIn and the MPC is set to send sync out of all = it's MIDI ports. (With the EDP's Sync=3DIn, the BrotherSync is ignored. = The brother sync jacks are connected with TRS, but it hasn't shown to = act different if that cable is there or not.) At the very beginning I = have a couple of measures dedicated to sending a general restart command = (note #62), a patch change command to each unit to choose the = appropriate Preset for each EDP, and a couple of CC messages to make = sure that both volume and feedback are set to 127. Both EDP's track the = incoming MIDI clock and settle on the tempo before the first record = command starts. 1. Sometimes for no apparent reason the first EDP will jump into Record = before the note # 38 is actually programed to be sent. So I push stop = on the MPC1000 and push PlayStart again, and then it works as it should. = But there is no telling when it's going to jump into record too soon at = the beginning of this song. I would like it to not do this. I want it = to only go into record when it's told to, and the way it's told to. =20= So when it doesn't react to a phantom record command and it acts as it = should, then EDP #1(my guitar) receives a Record message (note #38) and = with SwitchQuant=3DLoop, it waits for the next down beat to go into = Record. I then strum 4 basic chords with clean tone over 4 measures. = Just before the end of the 4th measure I send it another Record command = (note #38) and it waits until the end of that measure and ends the = recording and plays back "Guitar Loop 1". During that Play back of my = 4 measure "Loop 1" I step on my big muff and before the end of the the = 4th measure the MPC 1000 sends a Next Loop command (note #44) to this = same EDP. With SwitchQuant=3DLoop and with LoopCopy=3DSnd, it copies = Loop 1 to Loop 2, and goes into overdub, and I am now outlining the 4 = chords with a fuzzy staccato. Near the end of the 4th measure the MPC = sends a record command closing the loop at the end of the 4th measure. = I now have "Guitar Loop 2" playing. I have enough time to put down my = guitar and pick up my Bass. I play a bass line made up of the Root notes = of the 4 guitar chords and near the end of the 4 measure loop the MPC = sends a record command to the second EDP. With SwitchQuant=3DLoop It = wait's for the the next down beat and then goes into record. I record = version one of the bass line, also 4 measures, then near the end of that = 4th measure the MPC sends a NextLoop command. With AutoRecord=3DOn and = LoopCopy=3DOff, it closed Loop 1 and goes right into recording Loop 2. = I record the second version of the Bass line on Loop 2. Again, at the = end of the 4th measure, the MPC sends another Next Loop command and I go = into recording the third version of the Bass line on Loop 3. =20 Following me so far? So now I have 2 Guitar Loops and 3 Bass Loops. I have different drums = for Verses, Choruses, and Solos. I don't have a bridge yet. Some of = the drums are in the MPC 1000 and others are from the AdreanaLinn II. I = send patch changes to the AdreanaLinn II in order to select different = drum sequences or a sequence without drums. I have a track in the MPC = 1000 that is sending a basic 4 chord triad progression to my Alesis QSR. = I then use Loop Trigger Commands (Loop1=3DNote84, Loop2=3DNote85, = Loop3=3DNote86) to arrange the song into verses, choruses, and solos.=20 THE BIG PROBLEM is that 9 times out of 10 the 2 EDP's loose sync with = each other. The one time out of 10 that it does stay in sync is great, = but that's not reliable. I can't go out in front of people and = embarrass myself with that sort of unpredictability. =20 At first I had MPC 1000 out A > FCB1010 > EDP1 > EDP2. Making the = second EDP the third device. Connected to the other MPC out port (out = B) was my Alesis QSR and the AdreanaLinn II. I thought the problem with = the EDP's losing sync might have been because I had too many devices in = a serial MIDI stream. So I changed it. Second configuration had MPC1000 out A > FCB1010 > EDP1 > AdreanaLinn = II. And MPC1000 out B > EDP2 > Alesis QSR. Now EDP 1 was the second = device on MIDI out A and EDP 2 was the first device on MIDI out B. But = the sync problems continue. So I changed it again. Third configuration I decided to make both EDPs the first device = connected to each MIDI output. So I took the FCB1010 out of the = configuration completely. So now it is... MPC1000 out A > EDP1 > = AdreanaLinn II. And MPC1000 out B > EDP2 > Alesis QSR. THEY STILL LOSE = SYNC almost every time! And with any of the attempted configurations it = has been unpredictable as to where it will lose sync. It's not always = the same place. =20 Last night I programed the MPC to send a ReAlign command to both EDPs at = the end of each 4 bar loop just before it starts over again. The = ReAlign commands are programed to fire off after any loop trigger = commands. I only tested it once last night but it seamed to force = everything to stay in place. But being that they lose sync 9 times out = of 10, I might have just had that lucky one time. I'm about the test = the sequence again. In any case, I was hoping that it wouldn't require = this. But if it's the only way I can reliably trust it to perform with = them, then at least I might have a usable work around. I am not currently using them as a stereo pair. I thought that in order = for brothersync to work they both had to be set to Sync=3DOut, and that = if MIDI clock is present brother sync is ignored. Are you suggesting = that I could have EDP1 set to Sync=3Din and slave to incoming clock, and = EDP2 set to Sync=3DOut and then brother sync will work and they should = stay in line with out needing to program a bunch of ReAlign commands. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for taking the time to read all of that and offer your advice. ---John M. (new info: last night I had a successful run twice in a row with no = loss of sync. What I did differently is I had EDP 1 set to Sync=3Din = and EDP2 set to Sync=3DOut, and I took out all the ReAlign commands. = The manual makes it sound like brother sync would require both to be set = to sync=3Dout and no MIDI clock coming in. The manual actually makes it = sound like you can't drive the EDP's with a sequencer and have = BrotherSync active at the same time. So now with your comment about the = Thru port not having latency, I'm going to try again today but this time = with EDP1's MIDI Thru connected to EDP2's MIDI In.) __________________________________________________________ On Jan 8, 2011, at 3:33 AM, andy butler wrote: > John Metzler wrote: >> Hi Every One. I am re-title-ing and re phrasing an earlier = email i sent in the hope that will get more attention. >=20 > we're all ears here, >=20 > what's the question? >=20 > andy butler >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 22:22:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 274B0183480; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Lucy in the sky with spam References: <48AAEAEB1AA8423C90A55CA1F332874F@ELUK1> <4D2A1D74.7040508@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D2A1D74.7040508@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <03F4377D-DF2D-4719-9178-C6746284DF61@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:21:55 -0500 thread-topic: Lucy in the sky with spam thread-index: AcuwS6V3KgdntwyrT6+IwV0xgMtp2g== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2011 22:22:06.0086 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5CC5A60:01CBB04B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Great, I tried ti escape Bluegrass music, with it's blue haired old lady gro= upies, with a short stopover at Opera, no groupies(ok the oboists, yes!!) an= d now to looping where we have only Lucy The Looping Groupie and ya'll are a= lready trying to run her off!!!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >> I wish to be in good relationship with you > errrrr. This one says it all. This person is obviously from Dayton, O= hio. >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 22:22:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4420418347E; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 554085425/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.107/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.107 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AukBABPEKU1YbRRr/2dsb2JhbAAMliPKFYVMBI4e X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,296,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="554085425" Message-ID: <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 22:22:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MPC 1000 & 2 EDP+ loosing sync References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:22:58 +0000 (UTC) John Metzler wrote: > Hi Andy. Thanks for chiming in. In case you didn't see any of my other emails, here is a description that very carefully explains just about everything you might need to know regarding the issuers I'm having. didn't you say that by "losing sync" you meant that one edp was playing from a different Cycle? That would change everything, I'll assume it's the case. If the EDPs are actually losing midi sync then I'd be confident they're not getting a good clock. As to the Phantom record, that could also be caused by a LoopTrig command. Possibly a malfunction of the EFC7 or the lead connecting it. The midi thru of the fcb1010 is known to be buggy, you did right to take that out of the circuit. Doing Re-Align after a Looptrig is daft, just set SamplerStyle=STA and then the Looptrig will accurately restart the loop at it's beginning. Provided that the Looptrig is positioned accurately in the sequence. For complex sequencing the way to go is to turn off the EDP sync altogether and send Re-trigger and/or Looptrig commands regularly to create the sync. ...it can't really go wrong then. That's the way to go if all else fails. Using Brother-sync on the Second EDP is ok, but then you can only sync EDP 2 when EDP 1 is running. Sync=In is really solid on the EDP so another way to go is to use that only. (take out the BrotherSync cable) You *could* start all the Records with LoopTrig commands. AutoRec=On andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 9 23:40:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05FD118347A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=wUYe9sDlTl9SekbBce7H9Sx9zzqkaFAFhdoAwWS4Qbo=; b=sVchykyRR4LMEfMRaXxKXjqaQe6zR9TEBtje0Q8I1o9RguD+uidN7qJBcvX5Oadq81 JOeBO7z3RdDwagAxxzrxgg8450lZrJe1lXVyZzYONeMaY6zWOlSPCoWWxqAgtb4vX+C9 +PyUM5VMeGq3MhdilehzMUB1BW5cG6bRKOgqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=MA1eqrHTW04Y5QL4RHrBu8jj5PMYuKREtVHc/flGtXmwRvNfkA+IVThQXu4Gec5pmu xg2Nhau57zfLGaMyqN0gJ54XnR8tfTHk3jLzXR6GaauLBix8Bb3F4gqDuE9kK4t5lWLM oIoHOaePuTG0cUYj6UP9mPrjnLQ8SpdJtv63M= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: EchoLoop From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 15:44:52 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi again.=20 Is EchoLoop even still an open project? I hope so!!!!!!! Winter is here again and I plan to go deep and really solve this thing = finally. EchoLoop is part of that, but probably with live.=20 If there has not been an update, I'll keep trying to figure out how to = make it work anyway but if there's a new one, better to roll with that, = obviously.=20 Thanks!= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 00:18:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7E4F18347D; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=WSJRx-umAvpad-NX714A:9 a=j6RXvDaeZeFaGFC9jgEA:7 a=wCDT3GuDjgOTFVzK2SA6e_ja5xQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: EchoLoop Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:18:17 -0800 References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:18:20 +0000 (UTC) It seems to be. I am utilizing the latest (October of 2010) beta version from within MaxMSP. When a final publicly available version will be ready is anyone's guess. The correct person to ask is Matthias Grob (or possibly Andy Butler). I too am sort of building my whole new software looping future around EchLoop. The latest beta expires in a few months (April I think). So I am pretty keen on getting the next update (or the permanent version) ASAP as well. Matthias and Co. are working on it (along with the hardware version) and have been encouraging me to be patient. I'm planning on buying the hardware version too when the time comes. Al I can do is encourage patience as well. The VST works like a dream BTW, exactly like an EDP (only better) and in stereo too! Cheers, Ted On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > Hi again. > > Is EchoLoop even still an open project? > > I hope so!!!!!!! > > Winter is here again and I plan to go deep and really solve this > thing finally. EchoLoop is part of that, but probably with live. > > If there has not been an update, I'll keep trying to figure out how > to make it work anyway but if there's a new one, better to roll with > that, obviously. > > Thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 02:14:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D150018347E; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-638393141 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: RIP Mick Karn Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:14:49 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:14:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-638393141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just got a letter from Debi Zornes, that I thought I would share with you all. Debi was a close friend of Mick Karn, his business partner the last several years, and the person who contacted me in 2005 about playing with him. Having those two tours fall through was a major let down for me as Rick alluded to. I always held out a glimmer of hope that the opportunity might arise again. Bill Dear Bill Thank you for your lovely email and of course I remember you. Yes it was heartbreaking that those shows never came to fruition and even more sad that we were on our way to organising some live shows when Mick was diagnosed at the end of May last year and we had to abandon that to focus on him and getting him treatment. I hoped with all my heart that he would come through this and would be up on the stage one day again where he so wanted to be. I feel incredibly sad that never happened, but more sad to have lost my best friend. Appreciate your kind words. Love Debi x --Apple-Mail-1-638393141 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just got a letter from Debi = Zornes, that I thought I would share with you all. Debi was a close = friend of  Mick Karn, his business partner the last several =  years, and the person who contacted me in 2005 about playing with = him. Having those two tours fall through was a major let down for me as = Rick alluded to. I always held out a glimmer of hope that the = opportunity might arise = again. 
Bill



Dear Bill

Thank you = for your lovely email and of course I remember you.

Yes it was = heartbreaking that those shows never came to fruition and even more sad = that we were on our way to organising some live shows when Mick was = diagnosed at the end of May last year and we had to abandon that to = focus on him and getting him treatment.  I hoped with all my heart = that he would come through this and would be up on the stage one day = again where he so wanted to be.  I feel incredibly sad that never = happened, but more sad to have lost my best friend.

Appreciate = your kind words.

Love Debi = x
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Morgan Heather Promotions Coordinator From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 03:03:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD99C183482; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 03:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TndArzIHh+G1VoJW4AJelf0SXweCuX9WysgBDKlFLKk=; b=UsKrOQmcxkKOynECszZilaRYJW+hV8CNvpUlM5zP5ZkE4S7Y9wrtSlwPsHS6I60Luf W+ZDNUi2cVD41hLy90/NyqbvJ80X9lqstwv1siSfrXbo72ZpZLJ/k/ry/qbDSwGdRtuT 8MvJzr8dXpdzXiYAjzppHG05XTxy6qota9ZOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nEHC3F0N4qMXjYcN6yoe2b8m9/xGH9lZTNW48umm8Jd4sOKfJ0H3++4vmgyStdJCMV 5ADZEqX1zQrAcZVXIFuAPFymsvfjcDVL9czx6KsrBifAub8PwCJHB6sRERtHMchmUkYG kMOOKrVOJZwtwau2voBDgQhPEJoA4YB3wpEGc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:02:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EchoLoop From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56b2c8bb7a904997534a6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 03:02:59 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd56b2c8bb7a904997534a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable echoloop =3D awesome. - jim On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:18 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wro= te: > It seems to be. > > I am utilizing the latest (October of 2010) beta version from within > MaxMSP. > > When a final publicly available version will be ready is anyone's guess. > > The correct person to ask is Matthias Grob (or possibly Andy Butler). > > I too am sort of building my whole new software looping future around > EchLoop. > > The latest beta expires in a few months (April I think). > > So I am pretty keen on getting the next update (or the permanent version) > ASAP as well. > > Matthias and Co. are working on it (along with the hardware version) and > have been encouraging me to be patient. > > I'm planning on buying the hardware version too when the time comes. > > Al I can do is encourage patience as well. > > The VST works like a dream BTW, exactly like an EDP (only better) and in > stereo too! > > Cheers, > > Ted > > > On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > >> Hi again. >> >> Is EchoLoop even still an open project? >> >> I hope so!!!!!!! >> >> Winter is here again and I plan to go deep and really solve this thing >> finally. EchoLoop is part of that, but probably with live. >> >> If there has not been an update, I'll keep trying to figure out how to >> make it work anyway but if there's a new one, better to roll with that, >> obviously. >> >> Thanks! >> > > --000e0cd56b2c8bb7a904997534a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable echoloop =3D awesome.=A0

- jim

On= Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:18 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wr= ote:
It seems to be.

I am utilizing the latest (October of 2010) beta version from within MaxMSP= .

When a final publicly available version will be ready is anyone's guess= .

The correct person to ask is Matthias Grob (or possibly Andy Butler).

I too am sort of building my whole new software looping future around EchLo= op.

The latest beta expires in a few months (April I think).

So I am pretty keen on getting the next update (or the permanent version) A= SAP as well.

Matthias and Co. are working on it (along with the hardware version) and ha= ve been encouraging me to be patient.

I'm planning on buying the hardware version too when the time comes.
Al I can do is encourage patience as well.

The VST works like a dream BTW, exactly like an EDP (only better) and in st= ereo too!

Cheers,

Ted


On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote:


Hi again.

Is EchoLoop even still an open project?

I hope so!!!!!!!

Winter is here again and I plan to go deep and really solve this thing fina= lly. EchoLoop is part of that, but probably with live.

If there has not been an update, I'll keep trying to figure out how to = make it work anyway but if there's a new one, better to roll with that,= obviously.

Thanks!


--000e0cd56b2c8bb7a904997534a6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 03:51:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 577A118347E; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 03:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3599 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 03:51:48 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:39:54 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T, John McLellan, Lou Cohen, Forbes Graham, Eric Crawley, Jan 16 @Outpost Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 03:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Visual Music LIVE -- Duets Plus with Dr. T -- Video Projections John McLellan - Drums Lou Cohen - Laptop Forbes Graham - trumpet Eric Crawley -- Harpejji and Electronics The musicians will play all duet combinations followed by a quartet/ My projections are produced by mixing multiple DVD sources with video mixers and effects processors. The sources consist of computer-manipulated original material derived from my still photography and videography. The original subject matter is usually recognizable, but sometimes processed to complete abstraction. Sometimes the projections and music respond directly to each other -- sometimes they simply co-exist. Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA Suggested donation, $10 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and live) can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. with a piece from the Spring Series at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxBtaJajCkU Those of you who attend or perform at events at Outpost 186 may find my photo essay "Improvisations from an Outpost" http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/ to be of interest, -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 04:13:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3FC418347E; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7CTOFV2QOZN5dgOMTHOdbkU0oZYwn77c63q6qeOh1YQ=; b=S1q5B1wME0JTc+FiPjdk7lcCQeI5IAHpFRVgGAp5gXN7esjohS0eRAZ7CWw1W92ZRx iT8TmEwTU3xxksb8wiozr2951JvAPloQ3z8bUhK7Qy8dqBNEMlVgiaaI/bfGYKeea4L9 plMBhjhh9tIcM/kYgusPpgKkOC+wxbKczETOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=M2gUABUUJK3xdeVcLqvqU0FbaTarc0/CrHwDbXwzEHgr3+q49aiRQl4dykKMQHsFJe hO1JJWwt9nUz9lNL55+N2xkPhzMI39vBS2AWGNEWOcewZAEnsjEyx1ihwxay5CQkJqFh 4zLBaWPatHImuOicCb7xHl/heQDVTm+fnm3Uc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:13:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Partially OT: Mash of this weekend's ImprovFriday thread event From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a56f215b7e04997632fd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:13:54 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a56f215b7e04997632fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wanted to pass along a 'mashed' listen at the marvelous work created a= t this weekend's ImprovFriday . For those who might not know, ImprovFriday is another online community I take part in. Founded by J.C. Combs, initially via Twitter 2plus years ago and later resident at it's current home on the Ning network, ImprovFriday brings together artists interested in experimental work. Each weekend 30 to 40 of us gather together through the wire and post spontaneous musical pieces to the ImprovFriday (http://improvfriday.ning.com) from Thurs @4pm to Sat at 10pm. Among the interests in process is the technique of 'mashing' so any piece posted as long as the creator is open is available to be combined with othe= r work posted during the weekend event. I took bits/pieces from all the participants this weekend and created... Sliding on the Dancefloor *Featuring, Lee Noyes, Jeff Duke, Shane W. Cadman, Peter Th=F6rn, Steve Moshier, Kenneth Palmer, Jeff Fairbanks, Richard Sanderson, Timo Tuhkanen, Benjamin Smith, J.C. Combs, Ken Ficara, J=E9r=F4me Poirier, Bruce Hamilton,= Paul Muller, Kavin Allenson, Steve Layton, Norbert Oldani, Jim Goodin, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen, Chris Vaisvil and Roger =93ErocNet=94 Sundstr=F6m. Ji= m Goodin, mixer/masher.* * * Come join us... Jim --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a56f215b7e04997632fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wanted to pass along a 'mashed' listen at the marvelous work c= reated at this weekend's Impro= vFriday. =A0For those who might not know, ImprovFriday is another onlin= e community I take part in. =A0Founded by J.C. Combs, initially via Twitter= 2plus years ago and later resident at it's current home on the Ning ne= twork, ImprovFriday brings together artists interested in experimental work= . =A0Each weekend 30 to 40 of us gather together through the wire and post = spontaneous musical pieces to the ImprovFriday (http://improvfriday.ning.com) from Thurs @4pm to Sat at 1= 0pm.

Among the interests in process is the technique of 'mash= ing' so any piece posted as long as the creator is open is available to= be combined with other work posted during the weekend event. =A0I took bit= s/pieces from all the participants this weekend and created...


Featur= ing,=A0Lee Noyes, Jeff Duke, Shane W. Cadman, Peter Th=F6rn, Steve= Moshier, Kenneth Palmer, Jeff Fairbanks, Richard Sanderson, Timo Tuhkanen,= Benjamin Smith, J.C. Combs, Ken Ficara, J=E9r=F4me Poirier, Bruce Hamilton= , Paul Muller, Kavin Allenson, Steve Layton, Norbert Oldani, Jim Goodin, Ju= kka-Pekka Kervinen, Chris Vaisvil and Roger =93ErocNet=94 Sundstr=F6m. Jim Goodin, mixer= /masher.

<= div>Come join us...


Jim
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From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recordin= g by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn= .bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a56f215b7e04997632fd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 04:40:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D635183476; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2A8DC1.4060606@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 20:40:33 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Lucy in the sky with spam References: <03F4377D-DF2D-4719-9178-C6746284DF61@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <03F4377D-DF2D-4719-9178-C6746284DF61@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:40:45 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Great, I tried ti escape Bluegrass music, with it's blue haired old lady groupies, with a short stopover at Opera, no groupies(ok the oboists, yes!!) and now to looping where we have only Lucy The Looping Groupie and ya'll are already trying to run her off!!!!! Yeppers, Lucy is bisexual, so she's an equal opportunity groupie which preserves our communal status as non-sexist, but she's been at it since the Court of the Crimson King which makes her a bit long in the tooth for this kind of work..................wait.............most of us are from the Court of the Crimson King and are a bit long in the tooth. Still, vastly superior to the Bluegrass scene, IMBAUO From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 06:42:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 094AA18347E; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9hNsHJJgN8HTHXDDO6+RxgoBbpC1v+GCRFgrOa6neME=; b=rgPNSTmJGj2WhGavl1I3dRdv6mfaUL9E4YqegJBfkmBh/n8Ejt44kniOyFjtTCfUC/ FaCjlzfi3TT8nU7wvukE7mZv2H51ClwbfRVY8e2zxoBsSeT5AbkFkBAQdlHBkQCLAMtk SJL2G5aqP8k3yu4hL38fSBnLBXGFvcar17/+o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Bmbw7E/mveosgNUZyo+VZ8f+mwxN9u928s8rHvncgf7dw2Vz42EIjL47mzdI+/SmFW fuxAOhtM1vQeErBkOWwVHxArFFc02YMwqrSzusVQOdH8sFwxsiqb5+icQilfAjAy+nfK 3ZK5W9MsYlaH2hPozj04g/tW8o1RALrFOFUw4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:42:34 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lucy in the sky with spam From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:42:36 +0000 (UTC) I've learned to be suspicious when anyone says they want to be in a relationship with me... > Hello! > May the blessings of the=A0 season=A0 rest upon your life, > I found you here ON this site (www.loopers-delight.com) and picked > interest in you. My name is lucy. I wish to be in good relationship with = you --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From danielsalif09@gmail.com Mon Jan 10 06:51:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from nm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.67]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A7B3518345A for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.57] by nm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2011 06:51:21 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.114] by tm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2011 06:51:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2011 06:51:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 427750.1149.bm@omp1023.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 41874 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2011 06:51:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294642281; bh=FFaaBm1mK9u/l8QQvBsLQ2+WwAX6D8RvYHF7iBMDlBc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GYxmCpm0+bagsMNQs2VP2stpBgmhjUaEq6CK6PNHxqWE71Jfu6um2RID1CednpZYJXBcebfOfq1GSIeQeTo9xEWWltXx0WZinUEHi3Vk/zmLM6S8FGN9ALWqt0+bBIWJ0hvDfwqJAW8Kyez5mkDHP4BGwHDmTXKyIb4vvkCXB0Y= Message-ID: <220282.40264.qm@web29207.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HsRLJSkVM1ln1pW_XsTtVcEozWAThQLKe8du9Eq.lHyKMze yo2cuKKtYR0rkJ35Rk4PdrZE6AnUDcB.rjjZmwdK0kvmor_BqyvsenDVkZ8S vG20JVHenTk5uYQsJW9N6x2WGon0WnWgN1ACp6rr9kCR54ed_31ZEmNuTZed FOmjTz5KeYzGQ14bFMSJNYMSyfFyxC3sr5vhSTpoxm9keWki5OITHgaLCbbP v.NwxBCWh1j_eSmg3bu4e7nklDzldDZs69VJSggBeDZiRZ6WbHOCZCJL7Vht S8h0IBHCcbdF0gbxWa81Eg6VC76t3nFFkAYfY6bFbGe9OK0cyatg65I5NC4t bYL0mQ1iaV1lfLHCeClaSaVYxKr4dkXDoNODY1xudxElqQEVKjZIGH1zOVHw LvQZgEJz44vPGOytNpP7d6EfVdtrWO_IFbtB0GSuXI1jfV0R_TwX_leb.Rg5 EdPrBcpt90RHileXwsEHvAZEDfrK.oG2RrzejRV68VXSm8wrWcNSaQRGZnOw UzDWSJINpb.HZLeZxgHnIa2lGsSmhUssX0zSs9GBCrs05ElKiZAAd5Af6HZN FWrOQAlyA6SsjEuWxI30hoglMi2H9Er3xtqdw8VqKHkejTiYy9anu.aYNaRD xks25BJz0UJovG5xrxPsm3C2G7MI.wH9N2BFPUPy0fFuO976pGTCmRiaaaao TkKPbjz5dVBONycQIX9Jr611M2cUEYzqUYs_Ec1Bx965vb_gv.pcpT.mo4WE uqlLXvpaoL2CFPjO0EgRGTOeOjxjBaVOPcrUi5_YKBq1bRiJW3I_GDFZ0n__ MJdIG3yKKuEySOwM6aZnrVfhYP8.8A7QVhWVQlbY820E.b4iVHjl.Lfc9wuy i2g-- Received: from [41.203.227.21] by web29207.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:51:20 GMT X-RocketYMMF: simone.fabio60 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:51:20 +0000 (GMT) From: daniel salif Reply-To: danial_salif226@icqmail.com Subject: FROM MR.DANIEL SALIF. 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TRULY YOURS= ,
 
MR.DANIEL SALIF. (SGBB).

=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A --0-1295599121-1294642280=:40264-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 07:10:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 254C2183480; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=IAYqxeRSX/VWeexVnSUU/QO520vOjyggnOfm/KvckS4=; b=SLL7JAlUrzmggnH40KZKoSkzarT2/VwyelLWjAUb3YeV3smPabFhnHp77dh1JjEJy3 XkSaAVISGcwGpuqhTLzd33CQJx+lht1Bv8msUK2MhR5qhLchRgHpciOCTKTi/9HV9I5y HRm/aUCJ2yFkh1S94irhoX60Domfz+nWiJwtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=kAiS/ALGwvVRiVnJhdfbrxSmQVcW8Jw+0Ml6fl0Sa/1LEr5mah23DEW3qMiODZ82uu TTQ+zUQnFy6Moj2Skh1lu12n37X0CYI3XdB6lBcwNvK9f29KfiDFmEOMqBsZTaXf2JdN 4uahcWVueK2u+Ai/ubLXz/XxbWpISYkXfS8Pk= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: EchoLoop From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:14:00 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <-5SnAB.A.-Y.KDrKNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Whoops, didn't realize that was a looper's delight thread I responded = too. Thought it was just Andy.=20 Anyway, Ted, are you using it in Live, because I was having some trouble = getting it to "hear" midi data through live. What's the latest version?=20= EchoLoop worked like a dream in Bidule (last time I tried it), which I = really like but I got lost trying to sync tempos properly and switchers = don't make sense to me in Bidule---and I like some of the Ableton = functionality as well as the idea of using Ableton's looper just to snag = the BPM, then use EchoLoop. I'd be glad to test anything new before the final release as I'm going = through all my stuff very systematically as I set up a new scheme. ---Christopher.=20 On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:18 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > It seems to be. >=20 > I am utilizing the latest (October of 2010) beta version from within = MaxMSP. >=20 > When a final publicly available version will be ready is anyone's = guess. >=20 > The correct person to ask is Matthias Grob (or possibly Andy Butler). >=20 > I too am sort of building my whole new software looping future around = EchLoop. >=20 > The latest beta expires in a few months (April I think). >=20 > So I am pretty keen on getting the next update (or the permanent = version) ASAP as well. >=20 > Matthias and Co. are working on it (along with the hardware version) = and have been encouraging me to be patient. >=20 > I'm planning on buying the hardware version too when the time comes. >=20 > Al I can do is encourage patience as well. >=20 > The VST works like a dream BTW, exactly like an EDP (only better) and = in stereo too! >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Ted >=20 > On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Hi again. >>=20 >> Is EchoLoop even still an open project? >>=20 >> I hope so!!!!!!! >>=20 >> Winter is here again and I plan to go deep and really solve this = thing finally. EchoLoop is part of that, but probably with live. >>=20 >> If there has not been an update, I'll keep trying to figure out how = to make it work anyway but if there's a new one, better to roll with = that, obviously. >>=20 >> Thanks! >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 07:54:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5816718347F; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d18b5b6f-be6c-4534-8ce3-c12e12e70434_" X-Originating-IP: [86.146.108.185] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: EchoLoop vs mobius Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:54:16 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2011 07:54:16.0923 (UTC) FILETIME=[94925AB0:01CBB09B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:54:17 +0000 (UTC) --_d18b5b6f-be6c-4534-8ce3-c12e12e70434_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What's the difference between echoloop and mobius guys? I can't find any in= fo in the 6 mins I have before going back to work.. =20 Peace =20 g =20 > Subject: Re: EchoLoop > From: thedarrow@gmail.com > Date: Sun=2C 9 Jan 2011 23:14:00 -0800 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 >=20 > Whoops=2C didn't realize that was a looper's delight thread I responded t= oo. Thought it was just Andy.=20 >=20 > Anyway=2C Ted=2C are you using it in Live=2C because I was having some tr= ouble getting it to "hear" midi data through live. What's the latest versio= n?=20 >=20 > EchoLoop worked like a dream in Bidule (last time I tried it)=2C which I = really like but I got lost trying to sync tempos properly and switchers don= 't make sense to me in Bidule---and I like some of the Ableton functionalit= y as well as the idea of using Ableton's looper just to snag the BPM=2C the= n use EchoLoop. >=20 > I'd be glad to test anything new before the final release as I'm going th= rough all my stuff very systematically as I set up a new scheme. >=20 > ---Christopher.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jan 9=2C 2011=2C at 4:18 PM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >=20 > > It seems to be. > >=20 > > I am utilizing the latest (October of 2010) beta version from within Ma= xMSP. > >=20 > > When a final publicly available version will be ready is anyone's guess= . > >=20 > > The correct person to ask is Matthias Grob (or possibly Andy Butler). > >=20 > > I too am sort of building my whole new software looping future around E= chLoop. > >=20 > > The latest beta expires in a few months (April I think). > >=20 > > So I am pretty keen on getting the next update (or the permanent versio= n) ASAP as well. > >=20 > > Matthias and Co. are working on it (along with the hardware version) an= d have been encouraging me to be patient. > >=20 > > I'm planning on buying the hardware version too when the time comes. > >=20 > > Al I can do is encourage patience as well. > >=20 > > The VST works like a dream BTW=2C exactly like an EDP (only better) and= in stereo too! > >=20 > > Cheers=2C > >=20 > > Ted > >=20 > > On Jan 9=2C 2011=2C at 3:44 PM=2C Christopher Darrow wrote: > >=20 > >>=20 > >> Hi again. > >>=20 > >> Is EchoLoop even still an open project? > >>=20 > >> I hope so!!!!!!! > >>=20 > >> Winter is here again and I plan to go deep and really solve this thing= finally. EchoLoop is part of that=2C but probably with live. > >>=20 > >> If there has not been an update=2C I'll keep trying to figure out how = to make it work anyway but if there's a new one=2C better to roll with that= =2C obviously. > >>=20 > >> Thanks! > >=20 >=20 = --_d18b5b6f-be6c-4534-8ce3-c12e12e70434_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What's the difference between echoloop and mobius guys? I can't find any&nb= sp=3Binfo in the 6 mins I have before going back to work..
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>=3B >=3B I am utilizin= g the latest (October of 2010) beta version from within MaxMSP.
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>=3B >=3B When a final publicly available version will be rea= dy is anyone's guess.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B The correct person= to ask is Matthias Grob (or possibly Andy Butler).
>=3B >=3B
&g= t=3B >=3B I too am sort of building my whole new software looping future = around EchLoop.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B The latest beta expires = in a few months (April I think).
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B So I am= pretty keen on getting the next update (or the permanent version) ASAP as = well.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Matthias and Co. are working on it= (along with the hardware version) and have been encouraging me to be patie= nt.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I'm planning on buying the hardware = version too when the time comes.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Al I ca= n do is encourage patience as well.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B The = VST works like a dream BTW=2C exactly like an EDP (only better) and in ster= eo too!
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Cheers=2C
>=3B >=3B
&= gt=3B >=3B Ted
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B On Jan 9=2C 2011=2C at = 3:44 PM=2C Christopher Darrow wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>= =3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B Hi again.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >= =3B>=3B Is EchoLoop even still an open project?
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B I hope so!!!!!!!
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B Winter is here again and I plan to go deep and really solve this= thing finally. EchoLoop is part of that=2C but probably with live.
>= =3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B If there has not been an update=2C= I'll keep trying to figure out how to make it work anyway but if there's a= new one=2C better to roll with that=2C obviously.
>=3B >=3B>=3B <= BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B Thanks!
>=3B >=3B
>=3B
= = --_d18b5b6f-be6c-4534-8ce3-c12e12e70434_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 10:16:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CFCD18347F; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pDmAMfrtaGJ7Ba1LoMxPmP9DvtSffX69w6yj4HHv92U=; b=S9qd36p/EhEDwpcaS/+KDcKOS8ntauxqppfdMu5513Nm9fZYumH3Ffmq452Untj66q QMceHpM55KHfhlYJ0viSlTWdwLMmpeYZQ5nDnZfm8pEWjzmZeFY+1QN2Z6QKz46QtYxg SzSqy1qAQAJFJ1zsMI9e7TtfURLb88Y/khnFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vNmwIN561jkw5v6EFt+X8QTururMUaHbPJuTydxHopaAjgkRPwgpQYY3euozJD4tCh YKLWPJCPFUuoeHyvHVw3fmLu8F0gGOBOLwH3mkUU9792/5z1g9Rv51WnQb37Ooh7br9z AXdNkGpyHzca7siTka7iriXw3H+SyxfNDHd1k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:16:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EchoLoop vs mobius From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:16:26 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > What's the difference between echoloop and mobius guys? 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looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F60B18347E; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=L5Xrzol1UfKZZBF6ISuw+lCasqJD3IheiRsMA3TYOHM=; b=kb3zXytIP7xQ/5syLL2gCxCpd4hVIXMiMJ8Bk/it8tfjPaFECCaY3ZN5gMplN9+8mq dTi6fILq1zlBEBjutxm/kbcx2YOa/R+0yMhKG0d+2t+vtbecCS7J+R4ep3cfVnc7Ywml 4h7NEq9CKfO2Lb4gi5yEkuU53d6MMz5Z8TfQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OAjiFClx01IykUF5smuGt7QyEPOj28Yv1G4bj95ffhPuduFBClbnCO/+GoQ/F/HyBw 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gareth Whittock wrote: > What's the difference between echoloop and mobius guys? I can't find > any info in the 6 mins I have before going back to work.. > > Peace > > g > At the risk of sounding like a dull old bore on the subject, Echoloop does real loop windowing. Echoloop is basically a stereo EDP. It even responds to exactly the same midi-note numbers, so you can unplug you midi cable from your hardware loopers and plug them into echoloop.. (I wish it had midi learn however, maybe it will), no scripting but within an environment like Bidule could certainly achieve much of the same power as scripting. Mobius is a totally different looper, started from the point of view of a EDP clone, but now totally different beast entirely, where scripting is certainly the major selling point... Both of them will be easy to work with if you come from an EDP background, both will be hell if you dont! Opps I see that Per beat me to it.. I post anyway... =E2=98=AE Mark --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e89b035291f04997bfdf7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
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What's the difference between echoloop and mobius guys? I can't fin= d any=C2=A0info in the 6 mins I have before going back to work..
=C2=A0
Peace
=C2=A0
g


At the risk of sounding = like a dull old bore on the subject, Echoloop does real loop windowing.
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Echoloop is basically a stereo EDP. It even responds to exactly the sam= e midi-note numbers, so you can unplug you midi cable from your hardware lo= opers and plug them into echoloop.. (I wish it had midi learn however, mayb= e it will), no scripting but within an environment like Bidule could certai= nly achieve much of the same power as scripting.

Mobius is a totally different looper, started from the point of view of= a EDP clone, but now totally different beast entirely, where scripting is = certainly the major selling point...

Both of them will be easy to wo= rk with if you come from an EDP background, both will be hell if you dont!<= br>

Opps I see that Per beat me to it.. I post anyway...

=E2=98=AE

Mark



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--90e6ba6e89b035291f04997bfdf7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 11:57:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09BBA18347F; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vOaUQyM4gvPy2HGveNuV7bTVednCG6QmKjkOu3pm5V8=; b=IZRKNZyJJgULYgJKUPUPvhyABF7yCE9SxBo2OgEtyEfHKcMEckffZri7iUn2MeXX0U pE1m9ZsNefdwJ1pnuOuWFJxmqDKzKW+8znJe/tOJyx7gBHV2S4B//tGy5qre0hVgT56B qEqDiG/jmZ9aBktJXojO5JdLP5k/jUpKYd4Uo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=ldiDDczeEW2sC3xQfp3oLZFzDwXre5BZKNNqoEkLdoziM8rCSWIyTvzzFpFK/tIEbG I4NMrOoYx3DASOFZr/YefSpqqssDOmZiJnoo507kxKQbMdrtAujXYZDiOi0qHonQDVUQ pCDoHlBDPpw6ZrjWisReb1ryKUrqZqP6HXqVE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:57:57 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a fun little mobius script and a question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f2ce41a704997cad01 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:57:57 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f2ce41a704997cad01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 just noticed a little mistake the instantmultiply value should be the same as the subcyclecount multiplier in line 11 - here's a correct version !name copypan set switchquantize off set emptytrackaction copy set pan 0 rateshift 12 NextTrack instantmultiply4 <<<<< this number set 8thspercycle 16 set pan 127 rateshift 12 variable lastslice subcyclecount * 4 <<<<< should be the same as this number variable trimslice lastslice -1 wait until subcycle trimslice Trimend still bemused as to why i get no audio copied over if i insert a "wait cycle" into line 2 sim --000e0cd404f2ce41a704997cad01 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just noticed a little mistake

the instantmultiply value should be th= e same as the subcyclecount multiplier in line 11 - here's a correct ve= rsion

!name copypan
set switchquantize off
set emptytrackactio= n copy
set pan 0
rateshift 12
NextTrack
instantmultiply4=A0 <<<<< this number
set 8thspercycle 16=
set pan 127
rateshift 12
variable lastslice subcyclecount * 4 <= ;<<<< should be the same as this number
variable trimslice l= astslice -1
wait until subcycle trimslice
Trimend

still bemused as to why i g= et no audio copied over if i insert a "wait cycle" into line 2
sim
--000e0cd404f2ce41a704997cad01-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 12:09:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D759183482; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6fGF6IlQthHJ0vmPtIbkB9ijAMznoMgPx0AuJyV3cw8=; b=U9KaU911yGw/IrfLJjCYSXdVSavSaYvQHpo9fiitiDSMbCLnNwz/Yjd/yQhYtPYPnF 60LMKwBgeXnW13Y8O1qIvx654gS1Exd53YXoZdkDLK935mpDYDu58B/ZPyhJu+vtz1MZ lsayd1kCHI1QugFfbwNPe2dQr4VA9/hUi8LG0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=HXl9+Cbl0mmN9fdaS/hujUJxvFmuipOPVP4YjJstxyKlfh2ag0MO8NQ7SsfS5y9zlJ eOS/RmS8h4W7rl5Aol352FNBtOOlwahsZDcwtfN4XjQBuING4rHPTUQN0PpLijArRQ1S VqGdf8xnj3fWiw8St0wqqIhEubYrJ/0r4f4qs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:09:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9N1lqD.A.VvH.ybvKNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for posting the fix! I had a lot of fun with your CopyPan yesterday and liked it a lot. For my tastes I narrowed the panning quite bit. I think I will take take out all panning from the script, since I already play with a dynamically changing stereo sound and those dynamics will change in interesting ways when a loop is rate/speed shifted. Panning tracks as well was just too much over here ;-) I noticed some strange things happening so I will paste in your suggested new code. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > just noticed a little mistake > > the instantmultiply value should be the same as the subcyclecount multipl= ier > in line 11 - here's a correct version > > !name copypan > set switchquantize off > set emptytrackaction copy > set pan 0 > rateshift 12 > NextTrack > instantmultiply4=C2=A0 <<<<< this number > set 8thspercycle 16 > set pan 127 > rateshift 12 > variable lastslice subcyclecount * 4 <<<<< should be the same as this num= ber > variable trimslice lastslice -1 > wait until subcycle trimslice > Trimend > > still bemused as to why i get no audio copied over if i insert a "wait > cycle" into line 2 > > sim > From office----2225@att.net Mon Jan 10 12:15:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.234]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CCC4B183477 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:15:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.63] by nm28.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2011 12:15:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.41] by tm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2011 12:15:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1041.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2011 12:15:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 137886.70221.bm@omp1041.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 81830 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2011 12:15:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1294661729; bh=xjb8AzcEPDpCigePpb1ZyBEoI5cwDIKDhzl23fGoMQo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Da6GsdQ3HFYs6tElE9NJ+f1fSrMF4QHlRBaM6m0u2XpQncgRpyF88apknEHwuRYG68TBv10XGBaLKC0tYakqFaHszRrW5K23UAsNGUEQuv/FoWZuhwyDLzEx5l6ULpWOzAx+Mxq8Fm2jrTVnYZK9crSyZX6RzstIoTfRIUQEg/g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ejzudG1wM486RM81Dmqzi3F8GmQx64+bSIzftYP3jnoNMUVcc5WjDV8lRvdQlj34fb9lrY/fvCD5ay0KwCezRP/PL6openZnXWp+yGrFU6KxMwRI+rJUCv7/I8f4kh736bfhqzx695llzYx7WpEo73RpKgn5VgoIdav2HXhf/gI=; Message-ID: <438070.47776.qm@web180305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mSXlcG8VM1kU7aS.IwtVSynoT7YsNOjrB84XcoamRgufgYe MoAhrrnUes5d5WD7wf1DurwwT5Rit2aN1pHoyGfDORbHE4IbDaNWtDOsKRHb 0mCbZhIfb2_crf3YgDrcFfOFGSA0LjsG79GDkXmvsyBTQlOw0nUpPvLZ0qNe 0vSumO8FHJQI92L1QImzmjzvBJlkH5da32LlzTt73DvMRkqm5WGcnRuvUPZB vQTrztj7lvgmP39vbIU571169m0XNa5JQKKBpvP.gSc2yMLAP7B57y.Qp12I xob9pONI9dcpyghNsER43DqD1V49.HzHNrtf04_0xFmPXBtKpT0_JYtOtzIv OjMbj5aPGMkJ4QJkjN2er3LFmHa4zRLaoLjSCrDmay58wqtC5rm5.YS6Bpgm aXhBYW_jhIhOdI20nXNn6h8Z_C8Akyj9fjVsWHeAcD7evcJBJVdEP8JH1XoA FzRJWWToaB9HyAHh7E6M6MU00vfce_7D1RmKSCGlJjJz4xx8sirtnjZkpZJT ZqKPBew2eY2DUKr7ePOwXdtX6MUMgXpvFCA36_1qs7lFlKIjzS48ZcsEBQki kXqsPrlu4NoFQAgUig4BDyr4qlI5iwpOH5e7Rd_.V6zlm_fqY6nmjhmRb7en yNo5j_Ym1CJasV8dCee8B7QJCAECtWzn7NYiSOYiA8YJ1wda4opbTEJ8gXCI FL_LT_T4zastgui3_RtbWHNaao1J0XI_GqxHHu6l602WmJ6BAgSI3ZWpydvv pTnj6F7F8jgnzvQmwvU1xiE9xGd9OYVYGloMhv.Qb4XAFbNccLtKbFlFro9q DJO72NfjHrEJjJzA.9UCURb60DK2kwTwYWcTmj3wKw0uBsvtDrjRMzWnSdBJ WyOHOYf6KKLDhFuVxISSf9XQ9.NrmqHk1MxnKLKtHXuEfPJ3M4XQVtUiYWsu GGO2TnSuSxPfSDEzb1G0sNYU7gLTdU_PuUTA8WwzNLGhdOMIvjlaZkBb6arb Hq6pH3OTlJkzxkDwwBfR8zNBmYpedZEg_u9TMpm82MNTJfqdAOZOH.ztD9DF oQvtwoSW1iUvR13lzCAe7qCnZAfgePzE- Received: from [41.184.32.145] by web180305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:15:29 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:15:29 -0800 (PST) From: Samuel Morrison Reply-To: samuelmorris22443@yahoo.com.hk Subject: RE To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-903372435-1294661729=:47776" --0-903372435-1294661729=:47776 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My Dear Beloved Friend, =0A =0AMy name is Mr Samuel Morrison; I am senior staff with Nat West Bank Lond= on UK.I have a business deal of (USD$14.2Million)in one of the account here= in my department in UK,If you can permit me I will use your information=E2= =80=99s as the beneficiary of the fund. =0A =0AAnd arrange all the legal documents to transfer the Fund to your account= as the beneficiary, and both of us will share the Fund,if you are interest= ed please respond back to me. =0A =0AI await your reply to enable me send you more details on how we can proc= eed further for the claim. =0A =0ABest Regards, =0A =0ASamuel Morrison --0-903372435-1294661729=:47776 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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=0ABest Regards,
=0A=0ASamuel Morrison
--0-903372435-1294661729=:47776-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 12:21:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 587E3183484; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gkHUAFiI3KMizhZ53JptIIwvo0VypAulzlGl1Ir2t7o=; b=rv0sOsgJbeGwJF9Ww9UtZXMHT8ErMdP11ZZ53FLGWlipm5PbG+6Rgk6TinYAteuh87 y1KmJBoNb8fxNViJL6npRKZSl7StJbTKNyBsalAMIhSHkOjNaUVfGCUky2XKdNpX6Ond ykyJf2DgUaly1lTCo92zeScG+bKGCg0L4AU0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=dn3syhTuv2odFaSuurDGtxM0RB5OiAne9rwut3p+iu1hvTSS66bYkXAGmHXgKBH3sk gxmEimPIjfG4o2V+8giFl0ZuRlJxiUISBogaEmu5R4nBww23MXRaJ02giDLXF/7x8hDT jnrfXwJz1NBQ8oDIsajDfNSLgoiYQY6h59Twc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:21:23 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a98a92fd4504997d01cb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:21:22 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a98a92fd4504997d01cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 nice one, per! personally, i'm not sure about the rateshift either. it sounds great on some material, because you get a really nice machine-like sound, but on the other, it can sound a bit "mickey mouse" and get a bit annoying after a while! i'd love to hear a clip of what you're doing with it, if you get time to post one sim ps, i'm thinking of setting up a "glitch" bank on my foorswitch, with insert, trim, subcycle sequence, reverse, rate shift and three buttons to change the 8thspercycle value - and i'm wonderig if i can set up one single button to do record, overdub and play like this - if loop is empty, then record if loop is recording, then overdub if loop is overdubbing then play if loop is playing then overdub is this possible with a script? sim On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Thanks for posting the fix! I had a lot of fun with your CopyPan > yesterday and liked it a lot. For my tastes I narrowed the panning > quite bit. I think I will take take out all panning from the script, > since I already play with a dynamically changing stereo sound and > those dynamics will change in interesting ways when a loop is > rate/speed shifted. Panning tracks as well was just too much over here > ;-) > > I noticed some strange things happening so I will paste in your > suggested new code. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > just noticed a little mistake > > > > the instantmultiply value should be the same as the subcyclecount > multiplier > > in line 11 - here's a correct version > > > > !name copypan > > set switchquantize off > > set emptytrackaction copy > > set pan 0 > > rateshift 12 > > NextTrack > > instantmultiply4 <<<<< this number > > set 8thspercycle 16 > > set pan 127 > > rateshift 12 > > variable lastslice subcyclecount * 4 <<<<< should be the same as this > number > > variable trimslice lastslice -1 > > wait until subcycle trimslice > > Trimend > > > > still bemused as to why i get no audio copied over if i insert a "wait > > cycle" into line 2 > > > > sim > > > > --000e0cd6a98a92fd4504997d01cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice one, per!

personally, i'm not sure about the rateshift eith= er. it sounds great on some material, because you get a really nice machine= -like sound, but on the other, it can sound a bit "mickey mouse" = and get a bit annoying after a while!

i'd love to hear a clip of what you're doing with it, if you ge= t time to post one

sim

ps, i'm thinking of setting up a &= quot;glitch" bank on my foorswitch, with insert, trim, subcycle sequen= ce, reverse, rate shift and three buttons to change the 8thspercycle value = - and i'm wonderig if i can set up one single button to do record, over= dub and play like this -

if loop is empty, then record
if loop is recording, then overdub
= if loop is overdubbing then play
if loop is playing then overdub

= is this possible with a script?

sim

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for posting the fix! I had a lot of fun with your CopyPan
yesterday and liked it a lot. For my tastes I narrowed the panning
quite bit. I think I will take take out all panning from the script,
since I already play with a dynamically changing stereo sound and
those dynamics will change in interesting ways when a loop is
rate/speed shifted. Panning tracks as well was just too much over here
;-)

I noticed some strange things happening so I will paste in your
suggested new code.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> just noticed a little mistake
>
> the instantmultiply value should be the same as the subcyclecount mult= iplier
> in line 11 - here's a correct version
>
> !name copypan
> set switchquantize off
> set emptytrackaction copy
> set pan 0
> rateshift 12
> NextTrack
> instantmultiply4=A0 <<<<< this number
> set 8thspercycle 16
> set pan 127
> rateshift 12
> variable lastslice subcyclecount * 4 <<<<< should be th= e same as this number
> variable trimslice lastslice -1
> wait until subcycle trimslice
> Trimend
>
> still bemused as to why i get no audio copied over if i insert a "= ;wait
> cycle" into line 2
>
> sim
>


--000e0cd6a98a92fd4504997d01cb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 12:40:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CA71183480; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s21XUoqTwrr0HSIclftpGA1ayb23Sw4hxoRQIuRCdqA=; b=kNTkuezW4d3n15W3c9bsWjqGpw0tS1BBzcTLCtZig3d2LqJeYIsLMDuR1NVC1YyfHd 6N/7XjEbd5J7IsPME77sbimmrXbfxY10qPdzoHq2Ckb5uR6sJssp0gzIba2w38I+b3Gh EHyckRsybteZkTctFw6oAu0yZsNZSD97GwODs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BID+rE8QyYWU1omm5ldVQkB8baVLDRdtzGAvred/Owb3Wz7dLVyAUmCF82wJpQBbj3 L4n5WhdVnJFYol4yXfat3mwjL5C7ayd5zpfbT9ACG8fw20ecv1MkeW/3Gpfs9uD+K7v3 kO+NcwxBKgLGHDZkB7orZsWO0CrwOqWtw074s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:40:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:40:10 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > personally, i'm not sure about the rateshift either. it sounds great on some > material, because you get a really nice machine-like sound, but on the > other, it can sound a bit "mickey mouse" and get a bit annoying after a > while! Oh yes, what I liked - that I forgot to say - was a second action bringing down that "Rateshift 12" to "Rateshift 0". What happened then was that the added stuff had been processed to sound one octave lower than I played it and cut up into an interesting counter rhythm. Sounded smooth. To comment on the Mickey Mouse issue I always throw in a new, lower, output level into the script to compensate the harsh sounding pitched-up audio and make it fit in with the sounding texture. Just make a line as for example "set output 40". > i'd love to hear a clip of what you're doing with it, if you get time to > post one Sure, I'll record some Stick with your script - or what will be left of it - later. Gotta do some more work-for-money right now. BTW, when playing string instruments it can sound cool with reverse effects. We should think about some glitch-shit-up scripts that slice up the loop and revers certain slices here and there. > i'm wonderig if i can set up one single > button to do record, overdub and play like this - > > if loop is empty, then record > if loop is recording, then overdub if mode = record Overdub > if loop is overdubbing then play if mode = overdub Play > if loop is playing then overdub if mode = play Overdub > is this possible with a script? and at the end, remember to wrap it up with the line "endif" Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 12:42:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F1CB183480; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MHR8UMk+xWbfpnFIJDD+5xf3m4Ur7be9d1f1ZqRCzxs=; b=jNyWMcdabd428XR+6x4/etSiiZb6lyonnAhFgqtqjhlWNLBwELMrV3TzzD+B9hMQFF O5D6fOArsHrBDTtFghYEGcBXNgxpsen7YPBC8ULXE2BnSedalWZAQzMUjEYffIahotBV YlwMxtpRNSvp/V56CsiTKizsdloB6SwRzibNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DYEWAx1mQ34TAXaIGT/adeKv/fVW2gdBwSBSYogh1Hf1ntm8s7NeBdN5ynMgebj5G+ DBeZdOpqPKVvryqIjo1Eo3yvox97n4CbCD4lsm/BvJL3k7dvhKwN9t3Jr+N+C4H+ztaP gUHNKwQzwHj24eRK3N+QuwxcbolXubpc7TyDw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:42:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <9Dt1wC.A.bxB._6vKNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:42:39 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> if loop is empty, then record if mode = reset Record __________ Sorry, forgot that one. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 12:44:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E63CE183483; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:content-type:date :subject:to:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=fSScGamSQeWqcUUPQ10vAqqPw6E90uBYKgN+3zPnxmo=; b=qu7H2jLnoaXLAAiGl+b3y+HASOV6NozcH0grfYIIT6yGQ0UG8B6QhY20mDh255LN1t BPyjezGRSW4LCyQGHm+fubH3RgLZmAF4yAV1QXK/3WbNAl/jercRjrqjUromCnH/pw50 FVn8rSJHOCpIdtkhCP3aBwl3u8oSphfaHi8eA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:date:subject:to:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=k+JU0iJcn4EbBJq/kxfVPFEsDqQaTGu8p6AhB8nlWgt+LLbGVdeeXxzYQkGw6OFRE1 WVPDD9GGOnhWKXvUIY7Fdebu7h9oa6+KXUXG6cyRq2Te+eN6w4VgGvtGsd8uy3/tHh0z Qo5IJZmdncOw+Ij1XHFteJQyGhsOA14tbf8Lk= From: Matthias Grob Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-676122153 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:43:38 -0300 Subject: Ferdinand Maisel To: Loop List Message-Id: <3902AD98-A266-4F2E-A57E-BA45B89DAF28@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <-PStlD.A.d6B.d8vKNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:44:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8-676122153 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii here is another looper making success with KickStarter! 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--Apple-Mail-8-676122153-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 12:46:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D591A18348D; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TdVurV/KU5jV4QuMRHsJ3a5x82vn3KXRRx/MjiP09M0=; b=lNhgoiPAGk9T0hVAdGnvc0fqYEy8zJw38rAtnr5kbk6A7eMz5IfACwzFsnVAsE1HKq ScVzOuBiMHcwXIYR2MaAHwblfY0DJx44OlathK/kmptRqGGT7hM4TpWcuvysUr/gb0cP StgRCdGYKDlGCpVVf6CLRShFd2omTrezgI3eo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UsS2wdWt3LJJmV5UEjl5Wy0QCoOQ5yleRGfSp+VR7x57E/EOocPLYRoYqPAdTBAI75 oh5hbCnt1BMZGB6M/lpwCwilsjy9BkzUT34DP/eLKZHLacsZP//jqeGPhciknIC1joXz DyToWf6Ahn3ox3zhQl4A8n7z+YuuWvqUNuTmw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:46:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:46:00 +0000 (UTC) >>> if loop is empty, then record > > if mode = reset > Record > > __________ > > Sorry, forgot that one. Actually, that was targeting the status where no loop yet is recorded on a track (or a track's loop slot). I'm not sure Mobius scripting can decide whether a loop contains recorded audio or recorded silence. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 12:48:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45D70183496; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o8N5ElzEXhq49feJF3cSrtpmewtHS0DeDyRHY5K6Dg4=; b=dnNQbEIJO6SZsib3INNU3E3YccFYPK3cmXOF/I16wTklDwyIQLHctDQz02tK9X9Xm1 oXyBTzMMElDr1t2fgMYMzTXXPSvXC2Xwzjg/oye/OoFToK44YDZrXF3WIrE3SqIcOjrg SQ5kWgaPKFqiC86eshscmJFihUns41le3CbW4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=AJwhBBFgOZU7x2fummrZHmzwHSWHUiCIN4+/YU3MPomzBRhCAG7YPl0K6NsOWsmoUQ BIWZJha82yAGQydwIyWIZTVZFYwmEN7+rHN0nIhQse15HkvlX4ChZCJWrTSIDODoVM4T ZAILJU6Hwr61vVgi5iPXhJbMi3+cUGgPsNFio= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:48:53 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd52e70f7037604997d638d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:48:54 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd52e70f7037604997d638d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i don't think that would matter would it? you'd still want to go into overdub...i'll give it a go and see how i get on yes, reversed chunks - nice! ties in with rainer's question about alternate reversed chunks. hopefully jeff will answer that question and we can steal what we need from there! thanks for tips, now go and make some money! :O) sim On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >>> if loop is empty, then record > > > > if mode = reset > > Record > > > > __________ > > > > Sorry, forgot that one. > > Actually, that was targeting the status where no loop yet is recorded > on a track (or a track's loop slot). I'm not sure Mobius scripting can > decide whether a loop contains recorded audio or recorded silence. > > Per > > --000e0cd52e70f7037604997d638d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i don't think that would matter would it? you'd still want to go in= to overdub...i'll give it a go and see how i get on

yes, reverse= d chunks - nice! ties in with rainer's question about=20 alternate reversed chunks. hopefully jeff will answer that question and=20 we can steal what we need from there!

thanks for tips, now go and ma= ke some money! :O)

sim


On Mon,= Jan 10, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> if loop is empty, then record
>
> if mode =3D reset
> Record
>
> __________
>
> Sorry, forgot that one.

Actually, that was targeting the status where no loop yet is recorded=
on a track (or a track's loop slot). I'm not sure Mobius scripting = can
decide whether a loop contains recorded audio or recorded silence.

Per


--000e0cd52e70f7037604997d638d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 13:09:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20BD018347F; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=k1M1iV4OEzYj6tp/VOmIG43DBRcEQ3zUDDFU4G1JBqs=; b=Tl1ptfBUGzwqaDCFoVftco/H9l0XyJkbfnn44sALfvyBxws1wxlrHBGxoFD8PErd7e 4pgzgTyPEMEJjgadeepMCkbO2avXQ3s+frWncDASxFDA8A219Rwo/iEDud75sa1gO6Po sKXuxJpvn3DQlEzXTZO3aw1BzzfVYBFVyZ+u8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KQdJRQEcaZSCUeOtnIxmfqILIRGIQB3RbuO/aQI076z+M8tVFXOO6zY1ZaK6hU2IcT YnVkEjS7SWBZa3gEgbYT1Q3r2ml0lidB1geIRBrPl3NicutHj6ngggmJWx7aCXGAxdC+ +mU/J3VXl+jwttYRcTFuZAZlaee4YRaGP0CvQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:09:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lucy in the sky with spam From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2e9cd98ba04997dad90 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:09:33 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2e9cd98ba04997dad90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 matt-> :-DDD Looper-groupies use e-mail.... nerdy as hell 2011/1/10 Matt Davignon > I've learned to be suspicious when anyone says they want to be in a > relationship with me... > > > > Hello! > > May the blessings of the season rest upon your life, > > I found you here ON this site (www.loopers-delight.com) and picked > > interest in you. My name is lucy. I wish to be in good relationship with > you > > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a2e9cd98ba04997dad90 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable matt->=A0=A0 :-DDD

Looper-groupies use e-mail....=A0=A0=A0 nerdy = as hell

2011/1/10 Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.c= om>
I've learned = to be suspicious when anyone says they want to be in a
relationship with me...


> Hello!
> May the blessings of the=A0 season=A0 rest upon your life,
> I found you here ON this site (www.loopers-delight.com) and picked
> interest in you. My name is lucy. I wish to be in good relationship wi= th you



--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt




--
Petri Lahtinenhttp://www.pet= rilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a2e9cd98ba04997dad90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 13:11:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DD9C18347B; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=Diys3FuFNAYtyViC27ALBAQoWNFLsyiWkgIarKYTMiM=; b=csHMoKgGJTvPPpFomPL0vc/PD8nXzUHvuaCfugTDBZzNcT/mq6HD+O6qAT6cScuBOt EplGK57WJLMgY8VxIDmXGOWIiGFm1w5r0hsHQTnyXUhNjiF7LzRnJy+1Bk7K0dBRfVxO 7EufDhPIFmkx/80IcnRjE62Ull/9WMNarQIdM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=dHoQKzTCTiaSpfK3AvXi/nUAYE5VtTP1R34W3N+hALc3sMr3I1JpwvCX3nTq+SUhgv /JQo67kghRrnkYFvHpkOhnGs2Ve04QlGywpKsq/LhlyNO20Dwn683T73AQYCIbMO9RDM gcv0JBL4lSMR9HUFeuYWNa/C5H4F+D+cPkbQQ= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-677772490 Subject: Re: Ferdinand Maisel Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:11:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3902AD98-A266-4F2E-A57E-BA45B89DAF28@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <3902AD98-A266-4F2E-A57E-BA45B89DAF28@gmail.com> Message-Id: <7CAA1192-E619-47E0-8692-CBB90F423B2B@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <4KTHiB.A.O6C.vVwKNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:11:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8-677772490 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I loved it! Thanks for the link. On Jan 10, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > here is another looper making success with KickStarter! >=20 > I like the way he uses the piano and I do not know of any other such = pure piano looping: >=20 > = http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1660331765/hidden-voices-of-the-grand-= piano >=20 >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com --Apple-Mail-8-677772490 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = loved it! Thanks for the link.


On Jan = 10, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Matthias Grob wrote:

here is another looper making = success with KickStarter!

I like the way he uses the = piano and I do not know of any other such pure piano = looping:





= --Apple-Mail-8-677772490-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 13:28:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6026C183482; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:28:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:28:17 UTC Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3902AD98-A266-4F2E-A57E-BA45B89DAF28@gmail.com> References: <3902AD98-A266-4F2E-A57E-BA45B89DAF28@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:21:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Ferdinand Maisel From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:28:18 +0000 (UTC) Awesome! Love it!! Thanks Matthias, Andre http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.andredonawa.com On Mon, January 10, 2011 8:43 am, Matthias Grob wrote: > here is another looper making success with KickStarter! > > I like the way he uses the piano and I do not know of any other such pure > piano looping: > > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1660331765/hidden-voices-of-the-grand-piano > > > From consulgh@4u.com.gh Mon Jan 10 13:44:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 39437 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:43:50 UTC Received: from isp6.4u.com.gh (isp6.4u.com.gh [80.87.72.6]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 21138183482; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.4u.com.gh (isp6.4u.com.gh [80.87.72.6]) by isp6.4u.com.gh (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338EAC7E96D; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:04:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 41.218.193.236 (SquirrelMail authenticated user info-mplaza) by webmail.4u.com.gh with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:04:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:04:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: My Dear From: "Dr. Peter Robert" Reply-To: dr.peter_robert1@hotmail.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My Dear, COMPLIMENT OF THE SEASON. 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Dr.Peter Robert From stejoh0100@zipmail.com.br Mon Jan 10 14:48:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from web95504.mail.in.yahoo.com (web95504.mail.in.yahoo.com [121.101.151.4]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 12518183458 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66292 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2011 14:48:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294670907; bh=IuH3/wAz5ttJJA/P34TcaQSRkqR68170Mzqusyn9/hk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eRVjGTNRPYzITHUFdhBb1WaPQbZ64xyLxnyPspTVfb5emcbtqKaIYMw/YALeC6KBkj7vKNyzlz3DK40xRxVS7W7qSXIBK4wG1i44lbIXttGTaE5zDEjHayV4sMw8Kr2k5A6dX3gwtl/+qBmkUD0D+XB/0vgP48sRSC8HfyBT3yI= Message-ID: <294955.60575.qm@web95504.mail.in.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fNeG5IMVM1ldk5Nf7y8tDbW5NY9kPEVr7MzW749sc9pJOOz pjAGLnVEWc23OYvzZUjReulQggWdEzrupRqlL6KppOG1SNq56n3wIE73Aivf i6_PyH6jI1ZDZ8CX9aEj0wCKERqUvURaLHIqgF8wXtk3vzYtc4.WazHwVXbn ZFqoxcSpOCKG5RvuuYSjeV4ZhPmmTTsE_Z5lNQwh.vWXFK06D8.TzWgGhz2D Wssj9qvD2.QGUi_XeWBKao7XwynWKESM.jLxPFxL81yzE2KKAHGEbSzMDaFD wDu57AoPya_bV8Eqo9ZPdtjSeXwzodpV.jFRztiFRKOv1te_TPy5HWLftKUn WQjXhn0BIqHaT93Rrvzrl5oebejt9V4Lp.C6mVUaXM6VFDJQ92nW7gf_Nct6 ofUyy.UsSsXiz954WotRkgAP1H5hcpjWwBtBbfwRrq1tG5pt3KlblcrYjvbd 0j4xnHtlJx6LQIrtfi9txiAj80TXWhtSSpLdqa1md6DqWZMjHvdd.s6gEs90 YNvPcsw0oQIU2BaIyD58E2HYY69BDax_GziEZBiBzZcDjJ34YUT4RDeLD_s_ iL_yALynFtacQBzL3QBjJLooHVl8T6kffGFODIWCJsQc594qK9O3poCiyP_q 0al64tc.4v0orP5FbmLUWvKqRACHuo3ke2RsaBx4dmh7F9VgwawU2 Received: from [41.189.35.213] by web95504.mail.in.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:18:27 IST X-RocketYMMF: ganeshagenciesnps X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:18:27 +0530 (IST) From: martha steven Reply-To: stejoh0100@zipmail.com.br Subject: Hello Dearest In the Lord, To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-721026463-1294670907=:60575" --0-721026463-1294670907=:60575 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dearest In the Lord, =C2=A0 I am SISTER MARTHA STEVEN from Kuwait. I am married to DR EDWARD.J.STEVEN w= ho worked with Kuwait embassy in Cote d'Ivoire for nine years before he die= d in the year 2008. We were married for eleven years without a child. He di= ed after a brief illness that lasted for only four days. =C2=A0 Before his death we were both born again Christians. Since his death I deci= ded not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home which the Bi= ble is against. When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of THRE= E MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAS ($3.8m) with one of the PRIVATE SEC= URITY COMPANY here in Cote D=E2=80=99Ivoire. Presently, this money is still= with the SECURITY COMPANY. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not la= st for the next three months due to my cancer problem. Though what disturbs= me most is my stroke Having known my condition I decided to donate this fu= nd to church or better still a Christian individual that will utilize this = money the way I am going to instruct here in.=20 =C2=A0 I want a church that will use this to fund churches, orphanages and widows = propagating the word of God and to ensure that the house of God is maintain= ed. The Bible made us to understand that blessed is the hand that giveth. I= took this decision because I don't have any child that will inherit this m= oney and my husband relatives are not Christians and I don't want my husban= d's hard earned money to be misused by unbelievers. I don't want a situatio= n where this money will be used in an ungodly manner. Hence the reason for = taking this bold decision. I am not afraid of death hence I know where I am= going. I know that I am going to be in the bosom of the Lord. Exodus 14 VS= 14 says that the lord will fight my case and I shall hold my peace.=20 =C2=A0 I don't need any telephone communication in this regard because of the pres= ence of my husband's relatives around me always. I don't want them to know = about this development. With God all things are possible. As soon as I rece= ive your reply I shall give you the contact of the SECURITY COMPANY in Cote= d=E2=80=99Ivoire. I will also issue you a letter of authority that will em= power you as the original- beneficiary to this fund. I want you and the chu= rch to always pray for me because the lord is my shepherd. My happiness is = that I lived a life of a worthy Christian. =C2=A0 Who ever that wants to serve the Lord must serve him in spirit and truth. P= lease always be prayerful all through your life. Any delay in your reply wi= ll give me room in searching for a church or Christian individual for this = same purpose. Please assure me that you will act accordingly as I stated here in. 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Hello Dearest In the Lord,
 
= I am SISTER MARTHA STEVEN from Kuwait. I am married to DR EDWARD.J.STEVEN w= ho worked with Kuwait embassy in Cote d'Ivoire for nine years before he die= d in the year 2008. We were married for eleven years without a child. He di= ed after a brief illness that lasted for only four days.
 
Befor= e his death we were both born again Christians. Since his death I decided n= ot to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home which the Bible i= s against. When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of THREE MIL= LION EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAS ($3.8m) with one of the PRIVATE SECURITY= COMPANY here in Cote D=E2=80=99Ivoire. Presently, this money is still with= the SECURITY COMPANY. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last fo= r the next three months due to my cancer problem. Though what disturbs me m= ost is my stroke Having known my condition I decided to donate this fund to church o= r better still a Christian individual that will utilize this money the way = I am going to instruct here in.
 
I want a church that will use= this to fund churches, orphanages and widows propagating the word of God a= nd to ensure that the house of God is maintained. The Bible made us to unde= rstand that blessed is the hand that giveth. I took this decision because I= don't have any child that will inherit this money and my husband relatives= are not Christians and I don't want my husband's hard earned money to be m= isused by unbelievers. I don't want a situation where this money will be us= ed in an ungodly manner. Hence the reason for taking this bold decision. I = am not afraid of death hence I know where I am going. I know that I am goin= g to be in the bosom of the Lord. Exodus 14 VS 14 says that the lord will f= ight my case and I shall hold my peace.
 
I don't need any telephone communication in this regard because of the presence of my h= usband's relatives around me always. I don't want them to know about this d= evelopment. With God all things are possible. As soon as I receive your rep= ly I shall give you the contact of the SECURITY COMPANY in Cote d=E2=80=99I= voire. I will also issue you a letter of authority that will empower you as= the original- beneficiary to this fund. I want you and the church to alway= s pray for me because the lord is my shepherd. My happiness is that I lived= a life of a worthy Christian.
 
Who ever that wants to serve th= e Lord must serve him in spirit and truth. Please always be prayerful all t= hrough your life. Any delay in your reply will give me room in searching fo= r a church or Christian individual for this same purpose.
Please assure me that you will act accordingly as I stated here in.Hoping to hearing from you
 
Remain blessed in the name of the Lord.
Yours in Christ
SISTER M= ARTHA STEVEN
 

--0-721026463-1294670907=:60575-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 15:33:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22C1718347A; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=t+aYBCZwKBWu8tvf7e227g1z36B91J6Beud8IJG5uuo=; b=NZWkYz20mXXxB7g3Xf5QZ0r7Xoa6Sj5aXilFGXuG3PVwpU1cJEqC/D8ADE+0H9o5uS DyBlTDJCZlolbgbfJl+Kta/g/uPtIh3U3u+PqAn3EgLlxMcKRYjGuDTQ4ypHqJE4SmER 9R9qjHWz1ograXhy6hLAcjKekqnVCRT4ec7YE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=abFjQt0Y9bG4H8R459vW8DNKMYHJcGK4KcXnBHcXCvLNuUjxgTXrJXk/iOAoUp2NZY P5ohVbnPyl3hVifZUNxmMTs1wsc8EnMhrfe1RLwRaVqzit9g61He8vFbmw4lGAIUSq5e RFQpftKzUFTOYrRCd5MZJQDFKl8pKJUOQdKj0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:33:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Audio example clip (Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: zonemobius@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:33:43 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> i'd love to hear a clip of what you're doing with it, if you get time to >> post one > > Sure, I'll record some Stick with your script - or what will be left > of it - later. Here, I just uploaded a two minute recording with your script: http://www.box.net/shared/o80igvm89s "Playing the Chapman Stick to demonstrate Simeon Harris CopyPan script for the Mobius looper. This script simply copies a recorded loop (here the first bar riff), pans out the original and the copy and finally shortens the copie's length a bit so it will slowly drift apart with the original." I changed some things in the script, below is my custom version that you hear in the audio clip. Found the fix for your "Wait cycle" issue; simply put that as line five instead as line two! And then I narrowed the left-right pan to make it sound better live on a PA system (where few will sit at "the sweet-spot" of the stereo field) _____________________ !name copypan set switchquantize off set trackcopy sound # set emptytrackaction copy if version 1.43 set pan 30 Wait cycle NextTrack instantmultiply4 set 8thspercycle 16 set pan 97 variable lastslice subcyclecount * 4 variable trimslice lastslice -1 wait until subcycle trimslice Trimend _____________________ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 15:34:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 083FE183480; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=bsnNN9qj5kEhoJwfym4A:9 a=yAXP8hW-2ugnILCfUSEA:7 a=E3vqqL_Fdb83XQ0a2YqGQvjzs8kA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: EchoLoop Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:34:11 -0800 References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:34:17 +0000 (UTC) No, I don't use Abelton Live. Sorry. I use MaxMSP. On Jan 9, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > Whoops, didn't realize that was a looper's delight thread I =20 > responded too. Thought it was just Andy. > > Anyway, Ted, are you using it in Live, because I was having some =20 > trouble getting it to "hear" midi data through live. What's the =20 > latest version? > > EchoLoop worked like a dream in Bidule (last time I tried it), which =20= > I really like but I got lost trying to sync tempos properly and =20 > switchers don't make sense to me in Bidule---and I like some of the =20= > Ableton functionality as well as the idea of using Ableton's looper =20= > just to snag the BPM, then use EchoLoop. > > I'd be glad to test anything new before the final release as I'm =20 > going through all my stuff very systematically as I set up a new =20 > scheme. > > ---Christopher. > > > > On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:18 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > >> It seems to be. >> >> I am utilizing the latest (October of 2010) beta version from =20 >> within MaxMSP. >> >> When a final publicly available version will be ready is anyone's =20 >> guess. >> >> The correct person to ask is Matthias Grob (or possibly Andy Butler). >> >> I too am sort of building my whole new software looping future =20 >> around EchLoop. >> >> The latest beta expires in a few months (April I think). >> >> So I am pretty keen on getting the next update (or the permanent =20 >> version) ASAP as well. >> >> Matthias and Co. are working on it (along with the hardware =20 >> version) and have been encouraging me to be patient. >> >> I'm planning on buying the hardware version too when the time comes. >> >> Al I can do is encourage patience as well. >> >> The VST works like a dream BTW, exactly like an EDP (only better) =20 >> and in stereo too! >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ted >> >> On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi again. >>> >>> Is EchoLoop even still an open project? >>> >>> I hope so!!!!!!! >>> >>> Winter is here again and I plan to go deep and really solve this =20 >>> thing finally. EchoLoop is part of that, but probably with live. >>> >>> If there has not been an update, I'll keep trying to figure out =20 >>> how to make it work anyway but if there's a new one, better to =20 >>> roll with that, obviously. >>> >>> Thanks! >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 15:36:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBD4518347D; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=rq9qf7MowSkyt46MlHYA:9 a=N6FrYMttVMqTsN8575UA:7 a=PZbk6dlvTHyaLRLichzdOf8xi60A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: EchoLoop vs mobius Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:36:29 -0800 References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net>, X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:36:34 +0000 (UTC) I have no experience with Mobius so I cannot really say. I am really only starting on this software adventure. There are a lot of things I haven't tried and cannot compare. On Jan 9, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > What's the difference between echoloop and mobius guys? I can't find =20= > any info in the 6 mins I have before going back to work.. > > Peace > > g > > > Subject: Re: EchoLoop > > From: thedarrow@gmail.com > > Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:14:00 -0800 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > > Whoops, didn't realize that was a looper's delight thread I =20 > responded too. Thought it was just Andy. > > > > Anyway, Ted, are you using it in Live, because I was having some =20 > trouble getting it to "hear" midi data through live. What's the =20 > latest version? > > > > EchoLoop worked like a dream in Bidule (last time I tried it), =20 > which I really like but I got lost trying to sync tempos properly =20 > and switchers don't make sense to me in Bidule---and I like some of =20= > the Ableton functionality as well as the idea of using Ableton's =20 > looper just to snag the BPM, then use EchoLoop. > > > > I'd be glad to test anything new before the final release as I'm =20 > going through all my stuff very systematically as I set up a new =20 > scheme. > > > > ---Christopher. > > > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:18 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > > > > > It seems to be. > > > > > > I am utilizing the latest (October of 2010) beta version from =20 > within MaxMSP. > > > > > > When a final publicly available version will be ready is =20 > anyone's guess. > > > > > > The correct person to ask is Matthias Grob (or possibly Andy =20 > Butler). > > > > > > I too am sort of building my whole new software looping future =20 > around EchLoop. > > > > > > The latest beta expires in a few months (April I think). > > > > > > So I am pretty keen on getting the next update (or the permanent =20= > version) ASAP as well. > > > > > > Matthias and Co. are working on it (along with the hardware =20 > version) and have been encouraging me to be patient. > > > > > > I'm planning on buying the hardware version too when the time =20 > comes. > > > > > > Al I can do is encourage patience as well. > > > > > > The VST works like a dream BTW, exactly like an EDP (only =20 > better) and in stereo too! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Ted > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> Hi again. > > >> > > >> Is EchoLoop even still an open project? > > >> > > >> I hope so!!!!!!! > > >> > > >> Winter is here again and I plan to go deep and really solve =20 > this thing finally. EchoLoop is part of that, but probably with live. > > >> > > >> If there has not been an update, I'll keep trying to figure out =20= > how to make it work anyway but if there's a new one, better to roll =20= > with that, obviously. > > >> > > >> Thanks! > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 16:33:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10ACC18345A; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Meo2/1tAKEBy3/Ob2gAJqvcEUuqv3OmyYiLxS1ZnqsY=; b=FG/eLRldCOYAP25mYhz7m64DeiFcw5dWDYnzbuosLD+TZJGVvp+HzQsZ++lVSFF4RE gKdejHpYo1hv/4MLK6GY2ZCoebFBKo/zjCpp9VBomEN1OfR3OTNtzDR6Nx4gm/wQiUY4 VBMsJavM51lUSk/q+fjxrQcBx5AeGXunrFwXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=R31JpJfzntMr7jwxPuyT+kNNOdX2seosPUtzt9mpMIkaOROwFDJhBZdMhjBRzhrSAn NdddWPj+FEXsK19pm9xW14XgsgJog9z+8J/ymdgQuQLe+K5NpeM78Rz8EsHtTWYHr+Id T8keI4mpYPuvfs6zPol6LlR3p2XetstysJOys= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:33:49 +0100 Message-ID: <-166114583132180478@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Audio example clip (Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius) To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Nice tone Per... Also interested in what was achieving the wonderful bloom effect for the later melody, like a ducking cloud loop or something? I created something like this using firewirx, but as im hooked on stomp boxes these days i have my eyes on an Electro harmonix freeze... Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:33, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> i'd love to hear a clip of what you're doing with it, if you get time to >>> post one >> >> Sure, I'll record some Stick with your script - or what will be left >> of it - later. > > Here, I just uploaded a two minute recording with your script: > http://www.box.net/shared/o80igvm89s > > "Playing the Chapman Stick to demonstrate Simeon Harris CopyPan script > for the Mobius looper. This script simply copies a recorded loop (here > the first bar riff), pans out the original and the copy and finally > shortens the copie's length a bit so it will slowly drift apart with > the original." > > I changed some things in the script, below is my custom version that > you hear in the audio clip. Found the fix for your "Wait cycle" issue; > simply put that as line five instead as line two! And then I narrowed > the left-right pan to make it sound better live on a PA system (where > few will sit at "the sweet-spot" of the stereo field) > > _____________________ > !name copypan > > set switchquantize off > set trackcopy sound > > # set emptytrackaction copy if version 1.43 > > set pan 30 > Wait cycle > NextTrack > instantmultiply4 > set 8thspercycle 16 > set pan 97 > variable lastslice subcyclecount * 4 > variable trimslice lastslice -1 > wait until subcycle trimslice > Trimend > > > _____________________ > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 16:40:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D61F118347B; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <3902AD98-A266-4F2E-A57E-BA45B89DAF28@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Ferdinand Maisel Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:40:12 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33069-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD7EFC2EE80F5B-1660-23E92@webmail-d069.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:40:27 +0000 (UTC) if he's not here, let's get him to join the party! =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 16:51:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1CC6183480; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <48AAEAEB1AA8423C90A55CA1F332874F@ELUK1> <4D2A1D74.7040508@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Lucy in the sky with spam Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:51:22 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: <4D2A1D74.7040508@cruzio.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33069-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD7EFDBF0B39D4-1660-241F7@webmail-d069.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:51:30 +0000 (UTC) i love you long time rickeee!!!!!.....sent from pittsburgh! -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker To: Stephen Goodman Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, Jan 9, 2011 3:41 pm Subject: Re: Re: Lucy in the sky with spam On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote:=C2=A0 > I wish to be in good relationship with you=C2=A0 errrrr. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 16:57:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EADF183480; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vc0u3cUzZt70H4ZwR3hKThear0awBHopNXPHQySgdYg=; b=JiG6xZD7zb8Bzl6GmEwykWj7SDzg5rVrHrU7qOpmberc+KvB4KlDFDA8rG4KbLNlF6 2C9kUvnEcJSOFkwTT6vOP3NhSPOs60BPUuyNB7fNwIPXmVGUBeRhOVCEfv/ZsjUkVZf2 E3Om9EJ1lf4S4THAFTsb1lUw4ZVYlRYE0sQqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KjHW1Tl0/oSzfPgvMsP/gjsegVZjJpKD5tVVCxMyxqGSjDS4jAIgwsw/gcNz7OA7Rr VVkclV8QyFs4R4OeLfL0fUF5nbuYkAShcHW5TFz5qtlklGTlEASstzyT8K3OPh3dDbDt gjZpxzqKnK7EJceh0K3sESB+9OKC8LvUTzMSg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <-166114583132180478@unknownmsgid> References: <-166114583132180478@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:57:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio example clip (Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:57:18 +0000 (UTC) "Bloom effect"? Is that referring to the generative music application Bloom by Brian Eno and Peter Chivers? This time it is more difficult than usual to understand what your saying ;-)) Anyway, everything except that first one bar loop (that got copied and phase shifted by the script) was played live. Two effect processing patches in work, on on each fretboard side's output. Must be one of them. 1) On the bass fretboard output the Echoboy (soundtoys.com) tape deley sim plugin set to a reverb sound is manipulated with an expression pedal to bring up the feedback to max. Gives an effect similar to "freeze reverb" but slowly moving rather than "hard-frozen". 2) On the guitar fretboard a simple True-Tape (part of the Logic/Mainstage multi plugin Pedalboard) tape delay simulator plugin is used. This delay's loop length is changing with the same expression pedal used to catch and hold soundscapes from the bass side. The True-Tape then makes some "inertia/flutter/varispeed noise" when the delay length is changed. ...or maybe you are thinking about the OhmBoyz delay plugin on an effect bus fed from the Mobius output channel that plays back the original loop recorded? A bouncing dub feel delay coming out through a LFO automized cut-off filter. Per On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:33 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Nice tone Per... Also interested in what was achieving the wonderful > bloom effect for the later melody, like a ducking cloud loop or > something? I created something like this using firewirx, but as im > hooked on stomp boxes these days i have my eyes on an Electro harmonix > freeze... > > Mark > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:33, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>> i'd love to hear a clip of what you're doing with it, if you get time to >>>> post one >>> >>> Sure, I'll record some Stick with your script - or what will be left >>> of it - later. >> >> Here, I just uploaded a two minute recording with your script: >> http://www.box.net/shared/o80igvm89s >> >> "Playing the Chapman Stick to demonstrate Simeon Harris CopyPan script >> for the Mobius looper. This script simply copies a recorded loop (here >> the first bar riff), pans out the original and the copy and finally >> shortens the copie's length a bit so it will slowly drift apart with >> the original." >> >> I changed some things in the script, below is my custom version that >> you hear in the audio clip. Found the fix for your "Wait cycle" issue; >> simply put that as line five instead as line two! And then I narrowed >> the left-right pan to make it sound better live on a PA system (where >> few will sit at "the sweet-spot" of the stereo field) >> >> _____________________ >> !name copypan >> >> set switchquantize off >> set trackcopy sound >> >> # set emptytrackaction copy if version 1.43 >> >> set pan 30 >> Wait cycle >> NextTrack >> instantmultiply4 >> set 8thspercycle 16 >> set pan 97 >> variable lastslice subcyclecount * 4 >> variable trimslice lastslice -1 >> wait until subcycle trimslice >> Trimend >> >> >> _____________________ >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:01:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F1FE18347F; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jPAs1ODvY1OqapY/czGqDRyXgd6pZQvsXI6DqB2x3ac=; b=Akz9xwmi7ZR7pBge1or2HDYvcbgObVTYjAUvEiNfd9H2G8OkscktZ+4ocpbloN4wlX wgyPfi640gDfzMA8rsui5sEoj8keQplihc5j7yjJ0PgiFR9F3MwV/ffsdl80OhyqpG5h elxQmRd0fqDEbIfj1EC9rlNDGXS6RhsU3SHRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=A3jEy2f/0cqFYyk4OPlEeITEDm+M2tCrvksC37dol+x+ICFH6v+j9nipkM5BkP5cmJ YewVJYV7J3MFVMTTsdH+Ofv9LFk9QY6nBoN1iFEuS9KcgXrtPStulc4LMuyzCkOJwDIS cplx5XM5sbrwEW8p7yYmUlb1JmzpuzO0kj4E4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:01:53 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd10128bb5d2d049980ecd0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:01:53 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd10128bb5d2d049980ecd0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 it's amazing how one door opening opens another the subcycle sequence script allowed me to write this script based on the LiveCut plugin (of which i am particularly fond) - it stutters the last beat of the loop !name livecut stutter message Chop chop! # Variable containing 'slice' Variable global Slicetarget Variable saveQuantize quantize variable eighths 8thspercycle set 8thspercycle 32 # The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles # so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount # calculate the slice set slicetarget slices - 8 # internally subcycles/slices are numbered from 0 # but the Shuffle command wants them numbered from 1 Variable shuffleSlice slicetarget + 1 wait until subcycle slicetarget Shuffle slices shuffleSlice wait until subcycle 0 undo set quantize saveQuantize set 8thspercycle eighths what i'd really love to do is this - !name livecut stutter drop message This doesn't work # Variable containing 'slice' Variable global Slicetarget Variable saveQuantize quantize variable eighths 8thspercycle set 8thspercycle 32 # The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles # so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount # calculate the slice set slicetarget slices - 8 # internally subcycles/slices are numbered from 0 # but the Shuffle command wants them numbered from 1 Variable shuffleSlice slicetarget + 1 wait until subcycle slicetarget Shuffle slices shuffleSlice pitchdown wait subcycle pitchdown wait subcycle pitchdown wait subcycle pitchdown wait subcycle pitchdown wait subcycle pitchdown wait subcycle pitchdown wait subcycle pitchdown wait subcycle pitchnormal undo set quantize saveQuantize set 8thspercycle eighths but this doesn't work. it works with rate shifts, but that makes the loop slower for a bit, so it goes out of sync for some reason, the pitchdowns create a tiny bit of silence at the start, so you just hear nothing as it's sweeps down. jeff - any idea why this might be? i tried it with pitchnext and added a pitch sequence to the preset, but that didn't work either sim --000e0cd10128bb5d2d049980ecd0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable it's amazing how one door opening opens another

the = subcycle sequence script allowed me to write this script based on the LiveC= ut plugin (of which i am particularly fond) - it stutters the last beat of = the loop



!name livecut stutte= r
message Chop chop!

# Variable containi= ng 'slice'
Variable global Slicetarget

Variable saveQuantize quantize
variable eighths 8thspe= rcycle
set 8thspercycle 32

# The number = of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles
# so the r= esulting slice will be equal to one subcycle
Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount

=A0=A0# calculate the slice
=A0=A0set slicetarget sl= ices - 8
=A0=A0
# internally subcycles/slices are numbe= red from 0
# but the Shuffle command wants them numbered from 1
Variabl= e shuffleSlice slicetarget + 1

wait until subcycle= slicetarget

Shuffle slices shuffleSlice

wait until subcycle 0

undo
set quantize saveQuantize
set 8thspercycle eighths




what i= 'd really love to do is this -=A0



!name livecut stutte= r drop
message This doesn't work

# V= ariable containing 'slice'
Variable global Slicetarget

Variable saveQuantize quantize
variable eight= hs 8thspercycle
set 8thspercycle 32

# Th= e number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles
# so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle
Variable s= lices subCycleCount * cycleCount


= =A0=A0# calculate the slice
=A0=A0set slicetarget slices - 8
=A0=A0
# internally subcycles/slices are numbered from 0
# but the Shuffle command wants them numbered from 1
Variable s= huffleSlice slicetarget + 1

wait until subcycle sl= icetarget

Shuffle slices shuffleSlice

pi= tchdown
wait subcycle
pitchdown
wait subcycle=
pitchdown
wait subcycle
pitchdown
wait subcycle
pitchdown
wait subcycle
pitchdo= wn
wait subcycle
pitchdown
wait subcycle
pitchdown
wait subcycle


pitchnormal
undo
set quantize saveQuantize
set 8thspercycle eighths


b= ut this doesn't work. it works with rate shifts, but that makes the loo= p slower for a bit, so it goes out of sync
for some reason, the pitchdowns create a tiny bit of silence at the st= art, so you just hear nothing as it's sweeps down. jeff - any idea why = this might be?=A0
i tried it with pitchnext and added a pitch seq= uence to the preset, but that didn't work either


sim
--000e0cd10128bb5d2d049980ecd0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:06:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5A9D183482; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fshdF2FJXqzqw2URxw1Pe9tAlz4EYT8NvW9v90tW3mw=; b=PFYoBCob7i+S/pX2gtbgPueJSC4BC/RJGdXgtdppABOt7on9sIiGhXp79HIjSmgJ/H Twp51tUh55nfj1h2fUS8X/4J7x07zSekLZLaovvswqn9mAekHwVzZGinK7c5SjqXi9Xw gwu+Qu+uA5ISNQv2MYEua0BTkE7ACEesvNwfc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=liPz1jOYGnucR7URJ39yYmY22/uH6otqUfptmimsAJIeHcQpdnRhob9TGSR5UPB8Ac +QZzcauPOcp8Cj0Hf3IbdVSUr0sKXa1SPwzwkBeySlx4NsyTPCz4/SHdVQaA0t0WrQRV 6WAeJzza+KxIzErXVWsyACi3QT4EZILpg8e5M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <-166114583132180478@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:06:50 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio example clip (Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5d0567a48ca049980feda Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:06:50 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5d0567a48ca049980feda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 lovely per - a nice subtle effect! >> Here, I just uploaded a two minute recording with your script: > >> http://www.box.net/shared/o80igvm89s > --000e0cd5d0567a48ca049980feda Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 lovely per - a nice subtle effect!


>> Here, I just uploaded a two minute recording with your script:
>> http://www.box.net/shared/o80igvm89s

--000e0cd5d0567a48ca049980feda-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:09:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4970718347E; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KYltuunz3UDU4Z+JnoYi5IJsvsWqUaMO2f2T0AUo5/s=; b=Y4lo9+6P8x5rV1Kr4EH3aggqFKMtOCrZDOzB/59hFy/hfKY5JGxaDuXAwlydUiLi/u fvJ6dAnnJJzztxYBC+1W2PPjeVc2uD+GvvP8UWUqRIKWmhiuQW0cAczXFuLLwBrObmfD PyYPn6X7sim7FWs8PAhGakQ30q+qr/3fjiVrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=CDDGaWLynxXNKXgC3CopH7y/+lgEW7m82fPEts9SLr+3mHeNJyht35M3IoojM4pk+b oMdycx1PhuShCBE4AYuUaoFbGnu437SJOJZJhduTOyLyh3DP0oFeXZ2COWaEktqsGpEP K40D4OT0slfhmct+s9adMsWGh6mJ4kWu6Sco8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:09:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7TK2H.A.H6F.w0zKNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Wow, gotta check this out tonight! You're becoming so creative with this stuff now, Sim, that you should start thinking about putting more informative subject lines on your posts! Just so we can easier find stuff when checking back in the future. Per On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > it's amazing how one door opening opens another > the subcycle sequence script allowed me to write this script based on the > LiveCut plugin (of which i am particularly fond) - it stutters the last b= eat > of the loop > > > !name livecut stutter > message Chop chop! > # Variable containing 'slice' > Variable global Slicetarget > Variable saveQuantize quantize > variable eighths 8thspercycle > set 8thspercycle 32 > # The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles > # so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle > Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount > > =C2=A0=C2=A0# calculate the slice > =C2=A0=C2=A0set slicetarget slices - 8 > > # internally subcycles/slices are numbered from 0 > # but the Shuffle command wants them numbered from 1 > Variable shuffleSlice slicetarget + 1 > wait until subcycle slicetarget > Shuffle slices shuffleSlice > wait until subcycle 0 > undo > set quantize saveQuantize > set 8thspercycle eighths > > > > what i'd really love to do is this - > > > !name livecut stutter drop > message This doesn't work > # Variable containing 'slice' > Variable global Slicetarget > Variable saveQuantize quantize > variable eighths 8thspercycle > set 8thspercycle 32 > # The number of slices will be the number of subcycles times cycles > # so the resulting slice will be equal to one subcycle > Variable slices subCycleCount * cycleCount > > =C2=A0=C2=A0# calculate the slice > =C2=A0=C2=A0set slicetarget slices - 8 > > # internally subcycles/slices are numbered from 0 > # but the Shuffle command wants them numbered from 1 > Variable shuffleSlice slicetarget + 1 > wait until subcycle slicetarget > Shuffle slices shuffleSlice > pitchdown > wait subcycle > pitchdown > wait subcycle > pitchdown > wait subcycle > pitchdown > wait subcycle > pitchdown > wait subcycle > pitchdown > wait subcycle > pitchdown > wait subcycle > pitchdown > wait subcycle > > pitchnormal > undo > set quantize saveQuantize > set 8thspercycle eighths > > but this doesn't work. it works with rate shifts, but that makes the loop > slower for a bit, so it goes out of sync > for some reason, the pitchdowns create a tiny bit of silence at the start= , > so you just hear nothing as it's sweeps down. jeff - any idea why this mi= ght > be? > i tried it with pitchnext and added a pitch sequence to the preset, but t= hat > didn't work either > > sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:23:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D72F8183492; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=42HTOl4s5es2mw5f5C3RblslqLacaBEnoDfK1l5GEOI=; b=jPr4y8yIvbsOmld4zKqIk9KT1bE8MHf7HuZfqiZBhRjBsT4PHBYLo2Ab7KSnlqX4ep SF9RUGeSvbUJhGq+MhBSOPs5XNlHKtHCVBn/z/Ka1vspaTHq0ETSdxIatMXk4p4tpd82 xqTMrIm7QyLi/OxBF53ziEYYunsB/tYn3srFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UE4dQDBcQ4cyk0Ny9sitZM9mJIhk6Sy44CGltKZxK1XSX4qLy4DsFNYEyYfmhbQq4B LAVIQ1CG0CZ9vqoMPj5rpQ83xK01zS7LdPk/DKRIOUjCvB0d+fMvLNbp2Hw4/M+/S32t PdOdfxkhfi1XOcv1sE6Evp7LtdYm+2Iyn1y0M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:23:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_YkuxC.A.6eG.dC0KNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:23:42 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > but this doesn't work. it works with rate shifts, but that makes the loop > slower for a bit, so it goes out of sync When I use similar scripts I try to fix that by mixing parts that transpose the Rate up and parts that transpose the Rate down in a way that the resulting loop length on playback will be the same as the unprocessed loop. If having the opposite issue - the live processed loop playing back too fast - you can throw in a bunch of subcycle's *reverse mode* to make it sync with the global song time line. > i tried it with pitchnext and added a pitch sequence to the preset, but that > didn't work either Pitch Shift uses way, way more CPU power compared to Rate Shift. In fact too much. Better not use it at all. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:26:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A45618349A; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pYS0zOQGZRZWopYbchS+mqepjr/Z0LE6IY2OXzP9Fh8=; b=du1qrSHrmjE0yQjytHGcIy6DHTSjlnxxiTzdl/kGUYMfr2d5Fk9PtNhq5LHoo71vFj Uz/2x1GVP4vB/lTZUA8UvZwxj2NhCKemxc9kvydHj+kGk07/j8x0wIBDtixt+CaWhDPc 262aIHg7UhtNjXJwQqy9YQgxbfXlhebI7ue/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=G2EySCQlf+cbqltUeVE90I0IKi6I1ehX6QeEZzutHoyQPi5Lj4B8fgvOD9FGeASnmM 3wP5SVpoHkQXFyiWxWooXDb/7mZaykFxJCeZD/Gf6UjQdG/I92gYIP190RthCAkFYgTw RPnHT0KtQ+cgXHTz5fcWXGC8cG+nq35LoXhqM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:26:47 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd52e70d0c62e049981458a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:26:47 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd52e70d0c62e049981458a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yeah, willdo! i just adapted the second script (which doesn't work anyway) with 40 ratedowns/wait subcycles in a row, followed by "pause" - great way to end a loop - like a stuttery tape winding down! sim On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Wow, gotta check this out tonight! You're becoming so creative with > this stuff now, Sim, that you should start thinking about putting more > informative subject lines on your posts! Just so we can easier find > stuff when checking back in the future. > > Per > > --000e0cd52e70d0c62e049981458a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah, willdo!

i just adapted the second script (which doesn't wo= rk anyway) with 40 ratedowns/wait subcycles in a row, followed by "pau= se" - great way to end a loop - like a stuttery tape winding down!

sim

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, = Per Boysen <per= boysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow, gotta check this out tonight! You're becoming so creative with
this stuff now, Sim, that you should start thinking about putting more
informative subject lines on your posts! Just so we can easier find
stuff when checking back in the future.

Per

--000e0cd52e70d0c62e049981458a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:28:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7EA51834A4; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=A0lmxR04Qh9ISIBLFdr7N3FSbYmtjYz4qCoInxJNJl4=; b=EWXkw1I/QPMKa0XDvF6HeLZJcoehxCoYEAmNNiNG8aUloy3dM+zWoCdP1mseRFU7lq N8ZrUYrSDBM/OpQkKlXifwrGbijcEKT40CCVWcCcacMtn3ANL2NuL4SPoZIko2Tn0lHS b2BCy8J46xf8WoRex7kVfq/IoAJaGN7hKI/Gw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=g/KafA2ZMTkUNRWwB2rRpT9OeRKFA/kRiOJFfQgwsXH0ZSwa9mGcWJKCOpoi0cKRgr HkVUrse8jE5tg/sbbO4lKxoUdJ2XAHxwW0PnZGuGy3lNxZNxfJzaJRJPDFL4qip0bcSu T3bhWWo5//+LKP7Q+wPDbBHqjyCU62XcfBovo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:28:55 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6b2cc703aa00499814d9f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:28:56 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6b2cc703aa00499814d9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well i'm sure you could get it to work with ratedowns, if you started earlier in the loop and then did the right maths to work out when they should stop. that's given me an idea - maybe more on this later! sim On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > but this doesn't work. it works with rate shifts, but that makes the loop > > slower for a bit, so it goes out of sync > > When I use similar scripts I try to fix that by mixing parts that > transpose the Rate up and parts that transpose the Rate down in a way > that the resulting loop length on playback will be the same as the > unprocessed loop. > > If having the opposite issue - the live processed loop playing back > too fast - you can throw in a bunch of subcycle's *reverse mode* to > make it sync with the global song time line. > > > > i tried it with pitchnext and added a pitch sequence to the preset, but > that > > didn't work either > > Pitch Shift uses way, way more CPU power compared to Rate Shift. In > fact too much. Better not use it at all. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --000e0cd6b2cc703aa00499814d9f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well i'm sure you could get it to work with ratedowns, if you started e= arlier in the loop and then did the right maths to work out when they shoul= d stop. that's given me an idea - maybe more on this later!

sim<= br>
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmai= l.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> but this doesn't work. it works with rate shifts, but that makes t= he loop
> slower for a bit, so it goes out of sync

When I use similar scripts I try to fix that by mixing parts that
transpose the Rate up and parts that transpose the Rate down in a way
that the resulting loop length on playback will be the same as the
unprocessed loop.

If having the opposite issue - the live processed loop playing back
too fast - you can throw =A0in a bunch of subcycle's *reverse mode* to<= br> make it sync with the global song time line.


> i tried it with pitchnext and added a pitch sequence to the preset, bu= t that
> didn't work either

Pitch Shift uses way, way more CPU power compared to Rate Shift. In fact too much. Better not use it at all.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--000e0cd6b2cc703aa00499814d9f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:30:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACD2B1834AD; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wnVtqFSAEzbVZqA03uUSqc9ULiU0xz2wfnNgb8qPB/E=; b=o+Vk8KGjgaliBPQr/0n56I9LmcgZD9MP1qQTTV/NMFkSNziDaUoZEXWonMILA90rPN aet7HrjIGM+Mc4zfJ4jtN2krzRhRaCA4JziboxpkVoG72vi0KPLLWqyV/H8AXG5JhoPk jaNpzEMWOXKOxdtkggBJZybvxs9wghQDUC+tY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VI6T1vayDB52LNs3XVFrpTx+eJQeYBTG9HiECDIEqnvXjGO3mPNDkM7J0PyowpdheI xiXlq9yyK3hamQXoJXLNl8Ci/yC47jz9oDpN5d5SD7GecyVOgjfxIGOBV33ovv362qWm U4oiqSrluRYHVaBbAMF7PBqLMXogvQmosze2I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-166114583132180478@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:30:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio example clip (Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644cbb645bcd7049981528a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:30:16 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644cbb645bcd7049981528a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow ! Very interesting. I have to try it, definitively ! -f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/1/10 Simeon Harris > lovely per - a nice subtle effect! > > > > >> Here, I just uploaded a two minute recording with your script: >> >> http://www.box.net/shared/o80igvm89s >> > > --0016e644cbb645bcd7049981528a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wow !
Very interesting. I have to try it, definitively !
=A0
-f


=A0
2011/1/10 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.co= m>
lovely per - a nice subtle effec= t!=20



>> Here, I just uploaded a two minute recording with your script= :
>> http://www.box.net/shared/o80igvm89s


--0016e644cbb645bcd7049981528a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:32:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CB741834B4; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/SsVs56Z+xbtD2ETDMDMrfUCiFngVZXUCnFd3EFkDpY=; b=B3Zd8ZklHKWuv8UyznFQ2k9qOz3OGjyTNMr3ilhVOMQ8b8CNz85XHKW2aKyb7+N171 RLWX2xlCZ0Pyo32TEyuR56r2Dn6GDWK2cG2mBLbK8kirJdHoZyFQA8Cvw7mR2U1JABSK vIAh4J5Y4I8EuY/iIaBiR6W+4Mb3LteAgUzZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=urMpuOD9grBEmG+NiRq+RBx+CDO0mS1zGPqYKnmiGwKVj5iMzAsoPxTNXRz7ziv6Fv pJITzCPJLZBbhRzqGtLewXssgpqt9fUSo8Z7VaBes6N1TtTuQrHFlWCtF0P/CsVvHYWp l1SNKm1kLAZauRHP8HG0vrwvzhAHiAJfQrJiA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:32:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <63zqhD.A.6-G.fK0KNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Would be cool to have a "one-shot" stuttering script to use a a kind of "drum fill" when improvising. Just throwing it in now and then, behind your up-front playing, to keep the juices flowing in the background. Something that stutters wilder and wilder as it approaches the end of the original loop length. I tried to set that up in Mobius long ago, but with today's script manual it might be less difficult. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:35:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACFC01834B4; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=avVF0kMw/a5GiQ3+KDowZXJq9ll5w59lz5HjnrbWink=; b=PWFKS35dwsPsKIp8uhmZFujSG6EyQliFsOZpBUPl4mz/so3/pgPuiVTQZ29yM3Rvqy QKBfnR1LTtD54ItzlRtKr8Sx4/d8ziQLB4e+JJ8IhRo46m09FaO9ngoWPmejWmKAKxr5 yL4hqXYJuxlkKV86XNJGBbpWWh9Kdr8KsEjOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=f0vPBG7jBP1mt6ezB6g1OZ5lTYeqLJtYHFGpiroU+hrc+WnkwyQmJFvvMozE5uDTmq Y0hhnXcZ6OX3XNzzpbOJE0W95SUAGY5/SL/dK2MORO6ZfjwsPjwmUYbb4cXyILmheOsC DZwUt6RsX56I6c1ddR/fi2pki2OIJpa1s4/nY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:34:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64dda76b4b3c204998162c3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:35:19 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64dda76b4b3c204998162c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Wow, gotta check this out tonight! You're becoming so creative with > this stuff now, Sim, that you should start thinking about putting more > informative subject lines on your posts! Just so we can easier find > stuff when checking back in the future. So about that....could we please put stuff like this in the Mobius forum? This is eactly the sort of thing that should go in the Scripting forum so future users can see it without having to search LD, assuming they even know this thread existed. Not everyone registred with the Mobius forum is on LD. I know I'm not always very responsive to bug reports posted on the forums and I'll try to get better at that. Thanks, Jeff --0016e64dda76b4b3c204998162c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


> Wow, gotta check this out tonight! = You're becoming so creative with
> this stuff now, Sim, th= at you should start thinking about putting more
> informative = subject lines on your posts! Just so we can easier find
> stuff when checking back in the future.

= So about that....could we please put stuff like this in the Mobius forum?
This is eactly the sort of thing that should go in the Scripting f= orum
so future users can see it without having to search LD, assuming
=
they even know this thread existed. =A0Not everyone registred with the= Mobius
forum is on LD. =A0

I know I'= ;m not always very responsive to bug reports posted on the forums
and I'll try to get better at that.

Thank= s,
Jeff

--0016e64dda76b4b3c204998162c3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:36:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B25791834BC; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ba0b9uhVJB1oxw1LHVAm15l7xQb70YKGfXQRGrdXndM=; b=nGQ/nIUN6AialIpH1mLiSj//VOvf4O0RqwFO8cpG+k6+7Njh2LB2mycPrTJoqYVlZp 2U3XBs+LzoakhX/gZVr2SDOtVAnKJ7/R1SFPmB/QDzuwE5FRn36eYbOB860WTTBAecNO wXlbnTDlUf3CoYAtC+K7FBt8j3IbF8cpRWoj0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KxMFv7opv3y03GV7sWFw/9nIMrJqH0wJ7zsUDcBAfw6U9yVxVVF4yfpFh7wn+7MYri d22XlHc6Nj+3dmL1WSSNFewXJZiwudRe6cw1J9JJLivjXiTW7ir/x5Hj1URqw1gxA63K 1llUOxdHD1RmQTCRk0trGl7g6vZq0V/vKRLMg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:36:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:36:19 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > well i'm sure you could get it to work with ratedowns, if you started > earlier in the loop and then did the right maths to work out when they > should stop. that's given me an idea - maybe more on this later! Over here I typically use particular 8th Per Cycle settings to match certain timing measures I like to play in. Like "16" for 4/4, "10" for 5/4 etc etc. So for all this meeting-global-song-time-line compensation I use a two-script solution. First a script that checks what 8th Per Cycle is in use and then this script launches the actual effect script that is written to meet the timing measure in use. Took some time to set up but is a no-brainer to use when in place under the hood. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:36:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDA5C1834C7; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hjT+0ZM07VtKhwn1xQHaYJRev4fDqyLXGDkTvwvghbY=; b=O59wcQaYxPBb5LycSfI/XoQFDRkBYfogMV1wxSTak8Ex5nwIKQNN0SlkmhrNE4F3jD AsNbGAkloffe8D+Q3umpledphuG811K/EpELC7nZOtvkKxrn3+dL+3ulfLC7DCbiw7wL bU4CJ7169P5GHhN3oWly2WMcMZU4vs1F+/JvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=i/rsMcaOe/yueJvLXLAHFF1p2ajkYAzrkBnSFiggwcnjpoO9ii23WhNrIV+g4HgdRJ 2Pq4W/lG3u75+XsEBotSbesYHEAxpnJNI990iCCJM1+U4N1rCgWLGWiqabOVnXX66aF/ hS3ubWZ06YVO0iClw5iDyQRtcbpQmKAQs3puU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3902AD98-A266-4F2E-A57E-BA45B89DAF28@gmail.com> References: <3902AD98-A266-4F2E-A57E-BA45B89DAF28@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:36:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ferdinand Maisel From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644cbb63a753e04998168bd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:36:24 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644cbb63a753e04998168bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A w e s o m e ! thanks for sharing, Matthias ! -f 2011/1/10 Matthias Grob > here is another looper making success with KickStarter! > > I like the way he uses the piano and I do not know of any other such pure > piano looping: > > > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1660331765/hidden-voices-of-the-grand-piano > > > --0016e644cbb63a753e04998168bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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thanks for sharing, Matthias !
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2011/1/10 Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com>
here is another looper making success = with KickStarter!=20

I like the way he uses the piano and I do not know of any other such p= ure piano looping:




--0016e644cbb63a753e04998168bd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:39:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29A8718349C; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:references:from :content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=ubsBty59jb5p3hYnPVFaSwrO90ewn3950cRcFvKOfpk=; b=no2h0HOTyBiRlTsU+Z5/Gbnhuu7vps/d/ACOf4z12SqksYGk0cfMUbziLLABY05HwP onxF7gnhIsEfxWm6lyZRKFedNOH9dyaK2joa2A+mCh2gPvwdBAoBRgApCm4FBMGCULVU CntsbbdsfGqLt9jGaZHjN2IQtM1cLNwKPJQYY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=aE/JApXJl3sG4KujoJbsQV5TUDAjmQyVB/+v8CVow2Rx4Y9KNBwnAE3w1QW9kiWfuq fwXw4ciiJcjQ0/FmiVoBnsgi8AHWuGRyvay+tAfXlU+UwP/P+dVVzKdwz2Su4XYaQYgD +LjHV9tzPU3sLQmSZWYLkoMbeuIW09BLjAoug= Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) References: From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:39:14 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Ok jeff, I'll post everything over there in a stuttery scripts thread Sent from my iPod On 10 Jan 2011, at 17:34, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > > Wow, gotta check this out tonight! You're becoming so creative with > > this stuff now, Sim, that you should start thinking about putting more > > informative subject lines on your posts! Just so we can easier find > > stuff when checking back in the future. > > So about that....could we please put stuff like this in the Mobius forum? > This is eactly the sort of thing that should go in the Scripting forum > so future users can see it without having to search LD, assuming > they even know this thread existed. Not everyone registred with the Mobius > forum is on LD. > > I know I'm not always very responsive to bug reports posted on the forums > and I'll try to get better at that. > > Thanks, > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 17:45:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 178921834B2; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=4rHcn4kcM4fEz0Cr4f89mkSWfpVqZew5hKuaZCKQiQk=; b=T/WA8Crw8NFFtUV7hEyFmQx6Y6WMdQMqzrLFaLv7fRNwmurBzMk5YKZt1GdAmSz1rP CjTWtj10ZiNvkWL+aKdT04AqME0KD3tdS8+WhlfNZY5OtbLLL2nM/BUT12EyH0R+Song zno3GxYZ8UIz5RissiD8hVidyNEOaIQjNbIjI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=lK7SloRihyAQgeR9rSPnfWeupgg8mBJhLyRed9hNkh+ZgDl/B9LCBqBexxO/8dDy00 TowaZ8U0OO3Oh21K0u1wmsQfNO8CWUxlnYs0C8iS8zIWaSH7Bzdy8Dm/QE463itxx2Jg iucRxiLSF5d+Puo7sp/n7WHo3XgDKHTdwxhYg= Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) References: From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:37:46 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Nah, I don't think that would be too hard. It would just be another adaptati= on of the subcycle sequence script wouldn't it? Sent from my iPod On 10 Jan 2011, at 17:32, Per Boysen wrote: > Would be cool to have a "one-shot" stuttering script to use a a kind > of "drum fill" when improvising. Just throwing it in now and then, > behind your up-front playing, to keep the juices flowing in the > background. Something that stutters wilder and wilder as it approaches > the end of the original loop length. >=20 > I tried to set that up in Mobius long ago, but with today's script > manual it might be less difficult. >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 18:04:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7D2F1834BB; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PzjnfnoQH+31pvw2IfI+Dd1PmgMJo5ZrxD8ahtMxkIQ=; b=ShuX9H5XOkEndoRosKF9AuhTemCkQd8/UUV4iBvA0jU+ntNGEXZ01BvOdUGa+LwfiN LMglMDBvzSaN4OALrKUuqtFDylbXivWMsnt+1Tw/9yortvWlBecFcrnFTRXHfRj4Smvz ZJUvcgiV5HEcURQR5syyZIBjSEDVqPEDam5EM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=f22HAsf4Nitbk+k37S9wz0k7a94/DrHARD/T7NDIl2dYGM7Dgqn34Hm4F8sKudkmlE rvpfeTyDd2x/c+pqCQjoUFGk8+Mn0cbxOaDCrKvxMFJscqhX4zo8LoLORC3vtL8ZAykq wxbq6rc8n/6TL4iXeHrsjz+Z5VXup9q7icaVY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:04:24 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64dda7652fe8c049981cc49 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:04:25 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64dda7652fe8c049981cc49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > ... > Actually, that was targeting the status where no loop yet is recorded > on a track (or a track's loop slot). I'm not sure Mobius scripting can > decide whether a loop contains recorded audio or recorded silence. Hmm, no. There is no way to tell if a loop contains all zero samples. That could be added if it were important. [Simeon] > yes, reversed chunks - nice! ties in with rainer's question about > alternate reversed chunks. hopefully jeff will answer that question > and we can steal what we need from there! I found a bug that was causing Rainer's script to misbehave. I think there are ways to work around that, but I need to spend more time looking at it. Jeff --0016e64dda7652fe8c049981cc49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Pe= r Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:
> ...
> Actually, that was targeting = the status where no loop yet is recorded
> on a track (or a track's loop slot). I'm not sure Mobius = scripting can
> decide whether a loop contains recorded audio = or recorded silence.

Hmm, no. =A0There is no way t= o tell if a loop contains all zero samples. =A0
That could be added if it were important.

[Si= meon]
> yes, reversed chunks - nice! ties in with rainer's= question about
> alternate reversed chunks. hopefully jeff wi= ll answer that question
> and we can steal what we need from there!

I found a bug that was causing Rainer's script to misbehave. =A0I thi= nk
there are ways to work around that, but I need to spend more t= ime looking
at it.

Jeff

--0016e64dda7652fe8c049981cc49-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 18:08:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C50101834BB; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4COYFb0OBTyb5uGjSUL+kOuQfgd7GdWDtZjMOOiMQi0=; b=AO5odnXUpXYXeDGnFPDSc1WDCfq0NcEYWDFS/WjRHyFMRI3F3lqwTqiw/d271dZAwZ jsFudQNqBjxjCWfRi81tx6dxfWekEPEXlgX0hO4l2lkTI5lwboWUe3QMx3+zu1fTMwfG cmumbku2/I2zeTxYHBufoM4HwELUqtxvZ+NbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=CPO0ZoNjic4TWj+MR0Lw0MsyjgzdWh0wcVSFM9IkXnScUVRH9uPf8/NFZ6GA1dgPt8 O9OmSqp+DI3OtHjKWAK0gKVVWD+4881F1XlN8HPtShBUMCgP8hwtsMZT9oDxenK5iotT Y564eYD36VSDDYyWQlH8wkv6lO/UY8kwIcio0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:08:03 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f265b5c3049981d9de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:08:06 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f265b5c3049981d9de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 cool any answer as to why my copypan script doesn't work if i put "waitcycle" in at line 2? sim On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > ... > > Actually, that was targeting the status where no loop yet is recorded > > on a track (or a track's loop slot). I'm not sure Mobius scripting can > > decide whether a loop contains recorded audio or recorded silence. > > Hmm, no. There is no way to tell if a loop contains all zero samples. > That could be added if it were important. > > [Simeon] > > yes, reversed chunks - nice! ties in with rainer's question about > > alternate reversed chunks. hopefully jeff will answer that question > > and we can steal what we need from there! > > I found a bug that was causing Rainer's script to misbehave. I think > there are ways to work around that, but I need to spend more time looking > at it. > > Jeff > > --000e0cd404f265b5c3049981d9de Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cool

any answer as to why my copypan script doesn't work if i pu= t "waitcycle" in at line 2?

sim

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Jeff Larson <= jeff.larson@sailpoint.com&= gt; wrote:


> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
> Actually, that was targeting= the status where no loop yet is recorded
> on a track (or a track's loop slot). I'm not sure Mobius = scripting can
> decide whether a loop contains recorded audio = or recorded silence.

Hmm, no. =A0There is no= way to tell if a loop contains all zero samples. =A0
That could be added if it were important.

[Si= meon]
> yes, reversed chunks - nice! ties in= with rainer's question about
> alternate reversed chunks.= hopefully jeff will answer that question
> and we can steal what we need from there!

I found a bug that was causing Rainer's script to misbehave. = =A0I think
there are ways to work around that, but I need to spen= d more time looking
at it.

Jeff


--000e0cd404f265b5c3049981d9de-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 18:11:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E467A1834BF; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xUfbBpaP01fnd2ytaLesaCu5gtnifWOFEVB+g5lDOSQ=; b=LuAi+4EunhW6GJnzxQmcFn6qxjWIgTwU91a1w2b0JXC8Hbz0ePdGT6ez67UcGKor2x bYbrg/dz+1mdi/cgXEJGKxviJROO+/4VIYat/1WNiPHI7m6O2mt2eDcRT7ELlC3RI9PQ rXz8LHNBKptiYwkpGjEG+C0H281YSQHllwOsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ek+g/zzivsMBDg+uHj2EBWTx5cUa1s+/+D9H4EbLzBR2lHyb7Fz5hijMDa1sv3UgAN kJJPSi/ArLNmCDhIp78EZTGJcobDbarJxMnXd2yqCGc+xXhGggXeOPzg6aOvXCVZAC3q a6FqAJ6r6e5kt6s2Byzs8TYVh7IbeebXcU5LY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:11:47 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a fun little mobius script and a question From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb05eba115e049981e6ba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:11:47 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb05eba115e049981e6ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 [Simeon Harris] > if i add "wait cycle" at the start, to make the whole thing > happen on the cycle boundary, i get no audio copied into track 2 > - why is this??? So if you do this, it doesn't work? !name copypan wait cycle set switchquantize off ... I can't think of a reason why that would happen, I'll run some tests. Jeff --0015175cb05eba115e049981e6ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

[Simeon Harris]
> if i add "wait cycl= e" at the start, to make the whole thing
> =A0happen on t= he cycle boundary, i get no audio copied into track 2
> - why = is this???

So if you do this, it doesn't work?

<= /div>
=A0=A0!name copypan
=A0=A0wait cycle
=A0=A0se= t switchquantize off
=A0=A0...

I can'= ;t think of a reason why that would happen, I'll run some tests.

Jeff

--0015175cb05eba115e049981e6ba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 18:16:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6120C1834D7; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:16:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=x0eOS42+o1BUTWMUaYX/qnxg48Xw8jo31JfL93+6TFQ=; b=be3GSLAARLPQShGFZKSfbyKMCUozhOK7N24TYvWDkzQXlOWvGDQKHxAgoUBprXOT5W Cwbw/8k/RfkqGQaone42U5IPnC8F+EK+YByq96xRv9krPh1byMJSdTiUX6oDOjk9475f TmvcbO+XPAAKSbYJ87krxm3FXv/7W1uSe/H+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QEpR8I/DxZoEv7N6dxvoKsr79zibas2Kcy7N4C+BuHPU3n/qBAFZCXRmfolX6qgN5A jq7vPujEfOVvvCoxda3oUhgnwf9VTJ9LfF3KKDJb441YhVfp7jI4HqHV7TzzqxYWX2i2 KyFEq/rpXKGvTrvgLfGQY1WShV8l3I7NBCwWY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:16:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:16:14 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > any answer as to why my copypan script doesn't work if i put "waitcycle" in > at line 2? Because stuff has to be taken care of in the right order! ;-) As I answered in the thread "Audio example clip (Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius)" your script works fine when "Wait cycle" is put as line four instead of line two (and I spelled it as two words with a capital W) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 18:21:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E22261834E6; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aa8PrDmVUxQuIHxP6HlBQJHEJYbfuWLSd3T5R9qnc/A=; b=ZyJyFItpsWdvVewFoyNlzhQ13IujEnAwRKnS3uejQ+WsQJ9USfHIBt6iA+lbo7CQq0 of95+UC3ZDZu6LfcnuTZ1T8ZjUjCIKn64eStwrA5qCotVFlCtDv8r+3u/JUlNXZ8JcuK EeuADMVgP0PEEt+kIEHRqs33HVyiYhQQi5p3k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=KL5ZKsSghSo1m/3jYhYh2W9rbjYQy4ySzGnqWsjw/gczRRRRHPb86YOlaclrSDCYyu DLJ3v+lXjNHLQ3qQtW2l0fEpnJDwsHJy6ADJXojeVzFdG9E3DMtXtEyKUeRvt0jeWkJg B+vseGUw0rnJ6AUs/vwECoersirZNq1FNZkWk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:21:57 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a fun little mobius script and a question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a98a1093f20499820b83 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:21:57 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a98a1093f20499820b83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yes, that's it. if you could have a look, i'd be very grateful. it means the whole shebang would be quantised lovely sim On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > [Simeon Harris] > > if i add "wait cycle" at the start, to make the whole thing > > happen on the cycle boundary, i get no audio copied into track 2 > > - why is this??? > > So if you do this, it doesn't work? > > !name copypan > wait cycle > set switchquantize off > ... > > I can't think of a reason why that would happen, I'll run some tests. > > Jeff > > --000e0cd6a98a1093f20499820b83 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, that's it. if you could have a look, i'd be very grateful. it = means the whole shebang would be quantised lovely

sim

> if i add "wait cyc= le" at the start, to make the whole thing
> =A0happen on the cycle boundary, i get no audio copied into track= 2
> - why is this???

So if you do this, it doesn't work?

=A0=A0!name copypan
=A0=A0wait cycle
= =A0=A0set switchquantize off
=A0=A0...

I= can't think of a reason why that would happen, I'll run some tests= .

Jeff


--000e0cd6a98a1093f20499820b83-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 18:23:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6135C1834E2; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OWiVUdru1XLIdI2r9lcnjgMYA7EKKrw0bUFzwy5YxeU=; b=GXicRqUW57aPPY9T51t7B1p8mb1GyF9wlPLNEcrRa7qp+39I1iIZjIZOZmc9wkFJHj CPikR12css8no1Oo586+XO4kyZd8fcmLRMcbe8zmrupboBzTIeXzd/F/q/c0S9n9WWp6 KxlJiIDh+pVw6uUoP3lgQ3G0LdhWKgVufP64c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=K0igYeTiC8UeOtdlhQGGjRlOYm4V2v1y/0niy+fFHEI0PM4MwGf4blyf2C2FQDK78Z kMS6U1vaGsvWBp0bXrX9g4KzMSfsDvZNFeksMzm12A2dZcp6X8PA5MhaiqIn/DnfMgyq yBJ/X3Je9VtwPkFS8JVCop9vkhNksa+kSASnk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:23:30 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6b2cc989b9c04998210c3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:23:29 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6b2cc989b9c04998210c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yes, i saw that, but it means some stuff happens and then other stuff happens. without the wait cycle, it all happens at once, but when you hit the button. jeff's looking at it anyway sim On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > any answer as to why my copypan script doesn't work if i put "waitcycle" > in > > at line 2? > > Because stuff has to be taken care of in the right order! ;-) > > As I answered in the thread "Audio example clip (Re: Simeon's CopyPan > script for Mobius)" your script works fine when "Wait cycle" is put as > line four instead of line two (and I spelled it as two words with a > capital W) > > Per > > --000e0cd6b2cc989b9c04998210c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, i saw that, but it means some stuff happens and then other stuff happe= ns. without the wait cycle, it all happens at once, but when you hit the bu= tton. jeff's looking at it anyway

sim

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> any answer as to why my copypan script doesn't work if i put "= ;waitcycle" in
> at line 2?

Because stuff has to be taken care of in the right order! ;-)

As I answered in the thread "Audio example clip (Re: Simeon's Copy= Pan
script for Mobius)" your script works fine when "Wait cycle"= is put as
line four instead of line two (and I spelled it as two words with a
capital W)

Per


--000e0cd6b2cc989b9c04998210c3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 18:27:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48C9D1834F5; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yuxj50kdmAYaYPdz0B4xAuIX7FcYuBmhAL00nmw4qk4=; b=Ev5S7P5LTABuKBFn699iatItrT0UOhpqMqdw+kJyw6nvg0U2nrV6pAiz3ZmLHfkB0M Hb5wKdLyBzDHjl7KO8cGaFURI+Y71+KqZJAxyZLNq52E/wrLRKG+Uk4aPIw18+j24kEZ jPemD7nk60/hUj5Ctj8TBJzCIm7c5cwm9H0Xw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=f34cHI1qoUIzFML5//Eck3qPu9x2JtEAqBieypOz963eGw9NfsQmwzmQ1OtMUkvKxO iCitSwiI4sTlzHIi8A7G9jHpMUD8h6k6be1itAREn4d9YN45lddBsMbBm4kbMuAWBFHV mTPKM9UdRDviYSYRkwEFOgzrCHnNkw2tyeNk4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:27:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-OH1bD.A.lBC.m-0KNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:27:52 +0000 (UTC) I like it the way I set it up; panning and trimming of the copy happening on the next cycle cusp. That way I can adapt my live playing to make the most of the summed noise attack. Per On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > yes, i saw that, but it means some stuff happens and then other stuff > happens. without the wait cycle, it all happens at once, but when you hit > the button. jeff's looking at it anyway > > sim > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >> > any answer as to why my copypan script doesn't work if i put "waitcycle" >> > in >> > at line 2? >> >> Because stuff has to be taken care of in the right order! ;-) >> >> As I answered in the thread "Audio example clip (Re: Simeon's CopyPan >> script for Mobius)" your script works fine when "Wait cycle" is put as >> line four instead of line two (and I spelled it as two words with a >> capital W) >> >> Per >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 18:30:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5CDF1834FC; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dEmTDf2TjfpA+vLjDlSk4soW3E22WZ/o4Uy+3ig+L94=; b=J5Eo57FPrnOcIzLpFkdL5wTLciFhgI1cAzaU4Qp4+B132cB2MpInV0gxicgqs+DTB4 m4I1gVOUJfGQo+rub6jgeDoiKJtsLY7EdbOvw5Ch/qw5sWsY8ptJNVv6c9xOGU7YGo6R A5Ox5bD0v7CFU3ocl3nO+lsK/7POjlVfrN8QQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kK9rG/MN1hFUOaZDtlx2zTD9b1hfscQ7E/3/z9OnVi5FD7IEI9ZmdSWnrWkP/uoYUf kIZbEURBMcNynM6WQFcMUKpGWUJzqqL6YF6bxz/2tQTG77QVbhdONQ7jsIMntf8zSiaK l2ozGiDMIx70G8r2IczSVRTJHGuaRZ8sQCcwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:30:09 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ca7bc679bb404998228e8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:30:10 +0000 (UTC) --0015175ca7bc679bb404998228e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I found some bugs that were causing the "deterministic chaos". It's complicated but it has to do with latency compensation and doing functions that change fundamental playback properties like location (slipforward) and direction (reverse) at exactly the same time. Here's a version that I think works, to avoid the bugs you have to put "Wait last" after each slipforward and reverse function to make sure that it is completely finished (after the latency delay) before executing the next funtion. Oh, I also had to change the final slipforward to "slipforward 2" so that it skipped ahead two subcycles. Otherwise you would keep oscillating in the same subcycle forever. Jef ----------------------- !name autrev Variable global PartRevActive # toggle state if PartRevActive == true set PartRevActive false else set PartRevActive true endif # the actual function while PartRevActive == true slipforward Wait last reverse Wait last wait subcycle reverse Wait last slipforward 2 Wait last wait subcycle next end --0015175ca7bc679bb404998228e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found some bugs that were causing the "deterministic chaos". = =A0It's complicated but it has
to do with latency compensation and = doing functions that change fundamental
playback properties like = location (slipforward) and direction (reverse) at exactly
the same time. =A0Here's a version that I think works, to avoid th= e bugs you have
to put "Wait last" after each slipforwa= rd and reverse function to make sure that
it is completely finish= ed (after the latency delay) before executing the next funtion.

Oh, I also had to change the final slipforward to "= ;slipforward 2" so that it skipped
ahead two subcycles. =A0O= therwise you would keep oscillating in the same subcycle
forever.=

Jef

-----------------------

!name autrev
Variable global PartRevActive=

# toggle state
if PartRevActive =3D=3D = true
set PartRevActive false
else
set PartRevActive tru= e
endif

# the actual function
= while PartRevActive =3D=3D true
slipforward
Wait last
reverse
Wait last
wait subcycle
reverse<= /div>
Wait last
slipforward 2
Wait last
w= ait subcycle
next
end
=A0

--0015175ca7bc679bb404998228e8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 18:36:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D8661834F8; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:36:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=tBer1xsGY2lLKTRviwscEI1azfjXPFbuc8KaUsPFpGqW5lLf80i2qCmiMoxnOWtg; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <3902AD98-A266-4F2E-A57E-BA45B89DAF28@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:36:22 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Ferdinand Maisel Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-917437911==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79841e0991ecad0922544c9cff3ea091a8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:36:28 +0000 (UTC) --============_-917437911==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Phenomenal.... >A w e s o m e ! >thanks for sharing, Matthias ! > >-f > > > >2011/1/10 Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> > >here is another looper making success with KickStarter! > >I like the way he uses the piano and I do not know of any other such >pure piano looping: > >http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1660331765/hidden-voices-of-the-grand-piano -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-917437911==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Ferdinand Maisel
Phenomenal....

A w e s o m e !
thanks for sharing, Matthias !
 
-f


 
2011/1/10 Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com>
here is another looper making success with KickStarter!

I like the way he uses the piano and I do not know of any other such pure piano looping:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1660331765/hidden-voices-of-the-grand-piano


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
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--b1_76754c77d8ac5118e9b9a9d9b06cffd1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 10 20:00:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40345183481; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=SnDAKjEQJMgs1N5tD0gzU+y3BwLaceVcsjpnvnsCXVQ=; b=MhcDV36lYxLJutKuQtkr4kzwNwqD8DC94kfKltz2J/5pVC0tZzdaxbhZYnjLLgQPHV +tkRxed7HGanCZ7N4i/d/UZ4UvCoIua3uvlvVgwzR4BzoHMMBV0Hc463VrhjSMZ97TT7 X2AhJcM/4SYLkzpwjchSKplaYQL93/V6ueaw4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=VQFWaQckn09kudPtRFgbZBpJ7mYrLnevO9YsgI3c/X8YK1rD85sWXlmSMuIef18slb 1WcWe/tqmookdyrLe70bJF3YbZwaoDsSq9ZTzdoCyne/uIgKaIUIVlmgMgtDK73fjjCn qsoJDTi5Drmp4Quf+206++Z78fhpG/7c39kOw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <-166114583132180478@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:00:02 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XnZfL5-VgcTZEvwK26rRAWRNcVM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio example clip (Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e83e60e42920499836bd8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:00:24 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e83e60e42920499836bd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > "Bloom effect"? Is that referring to the generative music application > Bloom by Brian Eno and Peter Chivers? This time it is more difficult > than usual to understand what your saying ;-)) > Oh come on Per! Use you imagination! OK.. Certainly NOT refering to the Eno App (Why does everything have to start with him???) Bloom is an English verb (verb verb not reverb) that means a kind of soft and beautiful growth, as in flowers blooming. It is a visual effect, generally taken to mean a hazey blur around an object . Your sound started with a note, but very subtly became a frozen, reverby haze ... and was almost certainly... 1) On the bass fretboard output the Echoboy (soundtoys.com) tape deley sim plugin set to a reverb sound is manipulated with an expression pedal to bring up the feedback to max. Gives an effect similar to "freeze reverb" but slowly moving rather than "hard-frozen". Wonderful music as always coming from Sweden! Per On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:33 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Nice tone Per... Also interested in what was achieving the wonderful > bloom effect for the later melody, like a ducking cloud loop or > something? I created something like this using firewirx, but as im > hooked on stomp boxes these days i have my eyes on an Electro harmonix > freeze... > > Mark > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:33, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>> i'd love to hear a clip of what you're doing with it, if you get time to >>>> post one >>> >>> Sure, I'll record some Stick with your script - or what will be left >>> of it - later. >> >> Here, I just uploaded a two minute recording with your script: >> http://www.box.net/shared/o80igvm89s >> >> "Playing the Chapman Stick to demonstrate Simeon Harris CopyPan script >> for the Mobius looper. This script simply copies a recorded loop (here >> the first bar riff), pans out the original and the copy and finally >> shortens the copie's length a bit so it will slowly drift apart with >> the original." >> >> I changed some things in the script, below is my custom version that >> you hear in the audio clip. Found the fix for your "Wait cycle" issue; >> simply put that as line five instead as line two! And then I narrowed >> the left-right pan to make it sound better live on a PA system (where >> few will sit at "the sweet-spot" of the stereo field) >> >> _____________________ >> !name copypan >> >> set switchquantize off >> set trackcopy sound >> >> # set emptytrackaction copy if version 1.43 >> >> set pan 30 >> Wait cycle >> NextTrack >> instantmultiply4 >> set 8thspercycle 16 >> set pan 97 >> variable lastslice subcyclecount * 4 >> variable trimslice lastslice -1 >> wait until subcycle trimslice >> Trimend >> >> >> _____________________ >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e83e60e42920499836bd8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
"Bloom effect"? Is that referring to the generati= ve music application
Bloom by Brian Eno and Peter Chivers? This time it is more difficult
than usual to understand what your saying ;-))


Oh come on Per! Use you imagination!
OK.. Certainly N= OT refering to the Eno App (Why does everything have to start with him???) = Bloom is an English verb (verb verb not reverb) that means a kind of soft a= nd beautiful growth, as in flowers blooming. It is a visual effect, general= ly taken to mean a hazey blur around an object .

Your sound started with a note, but very subtly became a frozen, reverb= y haze ... and was almost certainly...


1) On the bass fretboard output the Echoboy (soundtoys.com) tape deley
sim plugin set to a reverb sound is manipulated with an expression
pedal to bring up the feedback to max. Gives an effect similar to
"freeze reverb" but slowly moving rather than "hard-frozen&q= uot;.

Wonderful music as always coming from Sweden!

Per


On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:33 PM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nice tone Per... Also interested in what was achieving the wonderful > bloom effect for the later melody, like a ducking cloud loop or
> something? I created something like this using firewirx, but as im
> hooked on stomp boxes these days i have my eyes on an Electro harmonix=
> freeze...
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my (advertisement removed)
>
> On 10 Jan 2011, at 16:33, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> i'd love to hear a clip of what you're doing with = it, if you get time to
>>>> post one
>>>
>>> Sure, I'll record some Stick with your script - or what wi= ll be left
>>> of it - later.
>>
>> Here, I just uploaded a two minute recording with your script:
>> http://www.box.net/shared/o80igvm89s
>>
>> "Playing the Chapman Stick to demonstrate Simeon Harris CopyP= an script
>> for the Mobius looper. This script simply copies a recorded loop (= here
>> the first bar riff), pans out the original and the copy and finall= y
>> shortens the copie's length a bit so it will slowly drift apar= t with
>> the original."
>>
>> I changed some things in the script, below is my custom version th= at
>> you hear in the audio clip. Found the fix for your "Wait cycl= e" issue;
>> simply put that as line five instead as line two! And then I narro= wed
>> the left-right pan to make it sound better live on a PA system (wh= ere
>> few will sit at "the sweet-spot" of the stereo field) >>
>> _____________________
>> !name copypan
>>
>> set switchquantize off
>> set trackcopy sound
>>
>> # set emptytrackaction copy if version 1.43
>>
>> set pan 30
>> Wait cycle
>> NextTrack
>> instantmultiply4
>> set 8thspercycle 16
>> set pan 97
>> variable lastslice subcyclecount * 4
>> variable trimslice lastslice -1
>> wait until subcycle trimslice
>> Trimend
>>
>>
>> _____________________
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboys= en.com
>> www.looproom= .com internet music hub
>>
>
>




--
mark francombe
= www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfra= ncombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 00:19:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3552218347B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBB125.2922ABF7" Subject: LP1 upgrade Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:19:01 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799D1B1@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LP1 upgrade Thread-Index: AcuxAQgS1CrbGd+fRx+jpJSVcU27CAAJAC4Q References: <-166114583132180478@unknownmsgid> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2011 00:19:33.0147 (UTC) FILETIME=[389646B0:01CBB125] Resent-Message-ID: <4YGFWB.A.uhG.WI6KNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:19:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB125.2922ABF7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody have any ideas how to get the lastest LP1 software updgrade? =20 Andy O ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB125.2922ABF7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Anybody have any ideas how to get the lastest LP1 = software updgrade?

 

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------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB125.2922ABF7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 00:21:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9DEA18347B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2BA27B.1070207@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:21:15 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:21:24 +0000 (UTC) A request, guys, for all these cool new scripting ideas that you are coming up with for Mobious for all of us non-users: would you please post some audio examples so that we can tell what, musically, has been created with all your new scripting work. It's fascinating but I just don't know the program and am interested in how it can move the music along (perhaps leading towards me using the program, hint, hint). thanks, it all sounds a fantastic, though, rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 00:36:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63A0618347A; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:36:48 UTC Message-ID: <20110110171038.4vt1c459usgkkg08@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:10:38 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP1 upgrade References: <-166114583132180478@unknownmsgid> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799D1B1@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799D1B1@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: <2NjXlD.A.lNH.gY6KNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:36:48 +0000 (UTC) http://www.looperlative.com/upgrades/version1_38g Quoting Andy Owens : > Anybody have any ideas how to get the lastest LP1 software updgrade? > > > > Andy O > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 00:46:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC0C518347B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: LP1 upgrade Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:46:09 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799D1BD@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <20110110171038.4vt1c459usgkkg08@webmail.musetrap.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LP1 upgrade Thread-Index: AcuxJ6RCnwL3c2nqREiFeuZ0gDJtNgAAR/2Q References: <-166114583132180478@unknownmsgid><864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799D1B1@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <20110110171038.4vt1c459usgkkg08@webmail.musetrap.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2011 00:46:48.0298 (UTC) FILETIME=[073684A0:01CBB129] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, will try that one, the links on the looperlative site don't work. Is there a list somewhere of the other ones, the latest one a bit buggy I heard. -----Original Message----- From: cpr@musetrap.com [mailto:cpr@musetrap.com]=20 Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 6:11 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP1 upgrade http://www.looperlative.com/upgrades/version1_38g Quoting Andy Owens : > Anybody have any ideas how to get the lastest LP1 software updgrade? > > > > Andy O > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 01:15:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06113183460; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jIU2mbYDI5JvobwATHERVHe8VEuhPiqbDIyEQ3eib1c=; b=dokafh7WRME8wrkHHNroxaMzHgArlSOCsAkOVJawHwdOUqaxFYRDKzowD8T6r4znRF UXRkIOkO91KLBK1LiL9Uk0QF4b8J8u1ARQ5Y2KcUzFq0a3nYAc9McR+sLUeDdPcoJg80 /9R1FEHVqqU2KlLjfy4s4xGkoK2Zb1EPTLMAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nQbTx8Qb8wU1/AHOPTtcumIIRgr/gKEY31LW/wIM9ljsiannqs6v9LS9FSozEf7bXP qQ4rwnmjaKAVnpqorCgi7nL9EvT/giQMfdPFdIbLeoQjV/xGZ2C+CB7sh0BrjoqlhqBJ YyJXm+03lqFfRo9+AT8fo94565xVrUolFvZu8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:15:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:15:26 +0000 (UTC) > So about that....could we please put stuff like this in the Mobius forum? Jeff is probably correct that the mobius forum is the right place for this, but please let us know here when you post something interesting over there... Sylvain On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jeff Larson w= rote: > > >> Wow, gotta check this out tonight! You're becoming so creative with >> this stuff now, Sim, that you should start thinking about putting more >> informative subject lines on your posts! Just so we can easier find >> stuff when checking back in the future. > So about that....could we please put stuff like this in the Mobius forum? > This is eactly the sort of thing that should go in the Scripting forum > so future users can see it without having to search LD, assuming > they even know this thread existed. =A0Not everyone registred with the Mo= bius > forum is on LD. > I know I'm not always very responsive to bug reports posted on the forums > and I'll try to get better at that. > Thanks, > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 02:10:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C579183477; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 02:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1626 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 02:10:41 UTC From: To: References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: EchoLoop Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:43:30 -0600 Message-ID: <001001cbb130$f4ea8d70$debfa850$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQFW8f8T2IV/2nBgMCiRMnE+SNzSDwIJr/ynAjlEakQCWGEZHwJANI9uAdK+2vsCFEJvJQH9x74WlD56QSA= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 02:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Where is EchoLoop to be found? I can't find it. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 03:15:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29D8118347B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 03:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0E0D8580-B9F4-4F5A-A005-6042527505C9@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-728397806 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: LP1 upgrade Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:14:53 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 03:15:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-728397806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey CPR and anyone else who hasn't perhaps been on LD in a while and hasn't followed this thread . 1.38 is still not stable, Don't download it until the fixes are done and an announcement is made OK? 1.37 is working ok for me, use that or 1.34 which Andy reports as the most stable, but not 1.38!!!! Thanks Bill http://www.looperlative.com/upgrades/version1_38g Quoting Andy Owens : > Anybody have any ideas how to get the lastest LP1 software updgrade? > > > > Andy O --Apple-Mail-1-728397806 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Hey CPR and = anyone  else who hasn't perhaps been on LD in a while and hasn't = followed this thread . 1.38 is still not stable, Don't download it until = the fixes are done and an announcement is made OK?
 1.37 is working ok for me,  use that = or 1.34 which Andy reports as the most stable, but not = 1.38!!!!
 Thanks
 Bill

Anybody have any ideas = how to get the lastest LP1 software = updgrade?


Andy = O

= --Apple-Mail-1-728397806-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 03:15:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 049DD18347F; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 03:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2BCB34.2080801@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:15:00 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpr@musetrap.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: LP1 upgrade References: <20110110171038.4vt1c459usgkkg08@webmail.musetrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20110110171038.4vt1c459usgkkg08@webmail.musetrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 03:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Warning, as of right this moment (and probably until a couple of weeks at least after NAMM, version 1.38g is NOT STABLE. You can go to the Looperlative website to find out how to download and install an earlier version. 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You can Email me at this email:adamskuffor@rediffmail.com Best Regards Adams Kuffor Tel:+233-547575421 skype:adams.kuffor (For The Entire Family) From alberty@y7mail.com Tue Jan 11 07:34:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 7718 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 07:34:35 UTC Received: from webmail.moerstaal.nl (webmail.moerstaal.nl [213.203.193.87]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D98183456 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 07:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by webmail.moerstaal.nl (Postfix, from userid 33) id E5A4826D2EE; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:12:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from 116.206.171.134 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pop_368164) by webmail.moerstaal.nl with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:12:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1231.116.206.171.134.1294719157.squirrel@webmail.moerstaal.nl> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:12:37 +0100 (CET) From: "ALBERT YOUNG" Reply-To: yalbert@y7mail.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; X-moerstaal.nl-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-moerstaal.nl-MailScanner-SpamScore: ss X-moerstaal.nl-MailScanner-From: alberty@y7mail.com Subject: ATTENTION: URGENT ASSISTANCE X-Spam-Status: No Greetings Philanthropist , I am sorry for contacting you through this medium without a previous notice. My name is Attorney Albert Young Advocate and legal consultant, I had a client, a contractor based here in London now deceased. My client lost his life alongside his wife and only child in (Beirut-bound charter jet) plane crash on the Monday, 9 January 2006,12:12GMT http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4594104.stm Prior to the Death of my Late Client. He secured a contract of 16,300,000.00 million from the Kingdom of Bahrain, following which was successfully executed the contract, but the balance of 11,300,000.00 Million contract payment was in the Process of being transferred into his Account which he submitted to the Bahrain Government before he lost his life in the plane crash. This will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law. I wait to hear from you. Do reply me with this mail address : yalbert@y7mail.com Kinds Regards Att.Albert Young Head of chambers From m_napoli@rediffmail.com Tue Jan 11 10:18:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 430 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:18:00 UTC Received: from rediffmail.com (f4mail-234-244.rediffmail.com [202.137.234.244]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6876E183456 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7207 invoked by uid 510); 11 Jan 2011 10:07:48 -0000 X-CTCH-Spam: Bulk X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Flags: : 16 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0209.4D2C2C61.02B2,ss=3,pt=DBB_66867,fgs=16 Date: 11 Jan 2011 10:07:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20110111100748.7195.qmail@f4mail-234-244.rediffmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "m_napoli" Received: from unknown 41.184.0.37 by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 11 Jan 2011 10:07:46 -0000 Sender: m_napoli@rediffmail.com Subject: =?utf-8?B?UExFQVNFIFVSR0VOVCBSRVBMWQ==?= From: "Mary Napoli" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_bc1dec27742c4c85d2ea026f0ddaddb1" --=_bc1dec27742c4c85d2ea026f0ddaddb1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" My Dear Beloved,Calvary greetings in the name of Almighty God, I am Mrs.Mary Napoli, a widow to Late (Phyllis Napoli). I are from United States live in London, United Kingdom. We own Treasure Art Inc and Treasure Crude Oil Marketers, we are wealthy,have a lot of properties including Shares and houses. I am 69 years old a new Christian convert. I am suffering from cancer of the breast my condition is serious, according to my doctor it is quite obvious that I may not survive the sickness.My late husband and my only son died in the crash of Swissair Flight 111 on the 2, of September 1998. After the death of my husband I made up my mind to do the work of God as a missionary. I sold all my husband's properties and shares to enable me raise some money to continue my mission. I raised the sum of (US$21 MILLION DOLLARS) which I deposited with a Security Company. Now that my sickness has gone to this stage, I am scared and I want the fund to be used for the work of God all over the world.I have prayed to God to direct me to an honest PERSON who will receive this fund and utilize it for things that will glorify the name of God, after my prayers, I searched your site in the Internet, I found your email address and I decided to contact you to receive the fund. If you are interested in using this fund for the work of God, please send to me your full names, address, telephone/fax number, occupation and age to enable me give it to the security company for immediate arrangement to release the fund to you.I await your urgent reply.REPLY THROUGH MY PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS :  mrsmarynapoli@yahoo.comMost sincerely,Mrs. Mary Napoli. --=_bc1dec27742c4c85d2ea026f0ddaddb1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" My Dear Beloved,

Calvary greetings in the name of Almighty God, I am Mrs.Mary Napoli, a widow to Late (Phyllis Napoli). I are from United States live in London, United Kingdom. We own Treasure Art Inc and Treasure Crude Oil Marketers, we are wealthy,have a lot of properties including Shares and houses. I am 69 years old a new Christian convert. I am suffering from cancer of the breast my condition is serious, according to my doctor it is quite obvious that I may not survive the sickness.

Swissair Flight 111 on the 2, of September 1998. After the death of my husband I made up my mind to do the work of God as a missionary. I sold all my husband's properties and shares to enable me raise some money to continue my mission. I raised the sum of (US$21 MILLION DOLLARS) which I deposited with a Security Company. Now that my sickness has gone to this stage, I am scared and I want the fund to be used for the work of God all over the world.

I have prayed to God to direct me to an honest PERSON who will receive this fund and utilize it for things that will glorify the name of God, after my prayers, I searched your site in the Internet, I found your email address and I decided to contact you to receive the fund. If you are interested in using this fund for the work of God, please send to me your full names, address, telephone/fax number, occupation and age to enable me give it to the security company for immediate arrangement to release the fund to you.

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--=_bc1dec27742c4c85d2ea026f0ddaddb1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 10:23:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E194183477; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eFDt5vzNQf9a4JtXT4+NVJjs9q5UlECXn1p/85vcNBI=; b=SjY5LVdJtF6nnqiTR58MvdvWYVvb4WNIeby63x7ATeRUS9dvx/CNYtmSLmtfN84x9u lAOjM14dvQFDQkQxILC++dEFE+5e6h/Wk7Qz/wPqGjq6kzxqmER6me3XCRFleZoEbOJp yOvnQ4KEE+0vAvHtWZheKGl6I8nk6lR9/sLg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dV3yfu6ubmSiBNZ2G3XRcnkqlpNu1TP19NoiLBNYX38X+evdLZRbfMbEpfIlDUeYle G4E2Mz7pljE8Kr/mZqTu672SFB6eR2zboGvSMrOaDZBa4gqetHbJXvFVcAhtkycxoUW/ Gz8KJXbX5sYoz1fpI3gAH9ZTgg9Z/oC7hDLNI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:23:58 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Jeff is probably correct that the mobius forum is the right place for > this, but please let us know here when you post something interesting > over there... Highly seconded! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 10:26:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4564118347B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 560452343/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.54/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.54 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtcBAEO/K01YbR82/2dsb2JhbAAMlhqXKrMThUwEjiI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,306,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="560452343" Message-ID: <4D2C3075.3020201@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:27:01 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP1 upgrade References: <-166114583132180478@unknownmsgid> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799D1B1@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799D1B1@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:26:58 +0000 (UTC) http://www.looperlative.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=91d7ee2a4bfe0e7f89bb29c44583329f find the links and RightClick>SaveAs Seems to working fine. I'm using v1.34d. 1.37 allows direct pitch change to semitone values and has a very useful "Except" function which inverts the track selection. ...but if you do a *lot* of short loops and bounces it crashes. andy butler Andy Owens wrote: > Anybody have any ideas how to get the lastest LP1 software updgrade? > > > > Andy O > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 10:28:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FAB218347D; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:28:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Nm0jyFhk2WoAlWrE3b75uHPyqoNYxDWKftmtTvq11BU=; b=nNb8Lzd5oZHSmjZTZPwcwHjYOZvS82Ho6d611eHUtzW992Gfq3+YEHcCpXOlUHGYrz XaygNZD4/M7a3tXd7mSNDqMnA2j+hux1LNKn5Ad9UFUK22x1TXAVrpoY08++6JDyxhxp BnGtXFpPChqWfXNpqPAVwVuzPzd4MnxvUdso8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kOEcS9eq/J5cdLduJv8vNW53iZDViwSxzE9suMgURDzGgRuJGnL/+E4n8gGbb0M81P G5Cv1nPO0f8uYuS/oJ2CVb9Z+QOLpX65mYyeQpH81gqnRNWSwtPujwVcWZcb5l9EVZhR i/GeB3cwPQCd9JyNv46cYhHUy+4a+7kjkR+cs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2BA27B.1070207@cruzio.com> References: <4D2BA27B.1070207@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:28:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:28:47 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > would you please post some audio examples so that we can tell what, > musically, has > been created with all your new scripting work. Already done. Those I posted on this board I marked in the subject line with a note like "audio example" or "audio clip" etc. Shouldn't be difficult to find for a list subscriber. I think Simeon is planning to post some audio examples over at the Mobius forum. 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--0-1186784279-1294741844=:64800-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 10:50:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88B89183477; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 563457324/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.54/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.54 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtcBAGrEK01YbR82/2dsb2JhbAAMlhrKOIVMBI4i X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,306,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="563457324" Message-ID: <4D2C3612.1040008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:50:58 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT, anyone got some fcb1010 scrap parts? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:50:56 +0000 (UTC) A few folks here have either worked they're way to a second fcb1010 or done the mod where the footpedals are chopped off. I'm looking for the small circuit board that sits next to either expression pedal, does anyone have a spare? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 11:02:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8665183477; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=vfB23+qqMH3+wrbFhvhtl8a84AArzH+JGrXqXMf5f5o=; b=awFhTi6IaiMgN3tm8kd5Jl51BF6YJU4xJeLsOiCzZYlkA6EL6ZOxmZjXNfsqk1GUFd w1Nr4StXoT/FjTuN3IOrfL19apoaNwJsuKrpHnUi/9eIcPkkGrxsMkBbuoaR1NbFQPhf VVh0Pu5g2Im6tyrrePO0XNKI2v+kwnCV23zUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=egHD0p4fGlvsK83S+SwFvnBsYiP2Fvn2RAosWihrUvgMOuI64RzjP9iGr+6ygRGRxv 0dmbjZ2iq7nuV+hcmBMOR6Aj+yp0sZ5ZpSokBDtQNdxkgt7EXK3wl4fXtFKfH+Ap76z7 3CcWywuzDEXkJsJc5cbNRKrLMXD3WBN8zJ9gQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:02:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aZ9X60S3dJ-wy7E0TmLkQnHHc04 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a073f299b304999005a1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:02:43 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a073f299b304999005a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 May I make a question and suggestion?, and this really needs comments from those on the list who DO NOT use Mobius, or any other piece of software/hardware we may use.. How much do these really in depth tech questions and threads bother you in terms of the amount of traffic we have on LD? If the information is about in depth scripting, is that annoying for the rest of you? Genuine question, because to my way of thinking, LD is a good/great place to discuss and work on these issues, as its amost live, and continues to be the main hub for all looping issues. What I DO think its that the individual forums for specific pieces of kit, are the right place for posting the finished concluded bit of code, in its own sensible thread. The one thing I find annoying about forum threads is that you use a bit of code, and it doesnt work, then 3 pages later someone posts the fix, but not ALL the code just the fix, you you have to follow the WHOLE thread to figure it out. What I would like is to figure it out HERE.. live on LD.. but then post the finished thing on Circular Labs. Sometimes, even though one might not understand another looper, one might think... hmm.. wonder if I can do that with my MixABC/loopysoftware solution (insert your thang here) So like to here, for example. what is possible on LP1 or Live or Sooperlooper, even tho I dont use them... Just a thought McF mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054a073f299b304999005a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable May I make a question and suggestion?, and this really needs comments from = those on the list who DO NOT use Mobius, or any other piece of software/har= dware we may use..

How much do these really in depth tech questions = and threads bother you in terms of the amount of traffic we have on LD? If the information is about in depth scripting, is that annoying for the re= st of you?

Genuine question, because to my way of thinking, LD is a = good/great place to discuss and work on these issues, as its amost live, an= d continues to be the main hub for all looping issues.

What I DO think its that the individual forums for specific pieces of k= it, are the right place for posting the finished concluded bit of code, in = its own sensible thread.

The one thing I find annoying about forum t= hreads is that you use a bit of code, and it doesnt work, then 3 pages late= r someone posts the fix, but not ALL the code just the fix, you you have to= follow the WHOLE thread to figure it out.
What I would like is to figure it out HERE.. live on LD.. but then post the= finished thing on Circular Labs.

Sometimes, even though one might = not understand another looper, one might think... hmm.. wonder if I can do = that with my MixABC/loopysoftware=A0 solution (insert your thang here) So l= ike to here, for example. what is possible on LP1 or Live or Sooperlooper, = even tho I dont use them...

Just a thought

McF

mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
--20cf3054a073f299b304999005a1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 11:13:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C0F318344B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 563378000/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.54/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.54 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtcBAArKK01YbR82/2dsb2JhbAAMlhrKOoVMBI4i X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,306,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="563378000" Message-ID: <4D2C3B6B.6040208@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:13:47 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:13:44 +0000 (UTC) thanks Mark, LD is essentially the "home and birthplace" of that type of loop manipulation. It would certainly be a shame if such discussions disappeared altogether. andy butler mark francombe wrote: > May I make a question and suggestion?, and this really needs comments > from those on the list who DO NOT use Mobius, or any other piece of > software/hardware we may use.. > > How much do these really in depth tech questions and threads bother you > in terms of the amount of traffic we have on LD? > If the information is about in depth scripting, is that annoying for the > rest of you? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 11:19:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BA5218345B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fB0dG45CpX8LpWcxBHTm4dgqgLgy9Y8SA7R9YhLhYXU=; b=Qppp9qHB4cJ/aZXZEQ6uOKf7O7CR/YJe6YvGHhAZLZUSlif1VeT9V53afXTpX+/dME cwGgjjmpuGjz81wKJ6VrWPJz8i+nLeIo8s/hqku3DOLDKAA7O2mFSgrsB3o9OaEuOTIO Ljil4qk0lfEHY6tc+OR2VxqWlRoDiNJZpEdSg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hqSgOjIEkAWYKNdbfs09PkJKKMB51VijroshgpGz+zCikqX8Zs1cWoz2oQuJMfEzRX hl8ex7j5tqmS7fbnSPIWbi+jxUzDHhz072XcyGGboMhaud94mSU0st4BapaF4rLVVtsR wXoodO5yObOt0CJD/aTjO4x7ElZzjVUjtwfos= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2C3B6B.6040208@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D2C3B6B.6040208@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:19:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644ddf6179fa50499904224 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:19:30 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644ddf6179fa50499904224 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Agree ! -f www.eterogeneo BTW: I have to say that I don't like forum at all.. 2011/1/11 andy butler > thanks Mark, > LD is essentially the "home and birthplace" of that type of loop > manipulation. > > It would certainly be a shame if such discussions disappeared altogether. > > andy butler > > > mark francombe wrote: > >> May I make a question and suggestion?, and this really needs comments from >> those on the list who DO NOT use Mobius, or any other piece of >> software/hardware we may use.. >> >> How much do these really in depth tech questions and threads bother you in >> terms of the amount of traffic we have on LD? >> If the information is about in depth scripting, is that annoying for the >> rest of you? >> > > --0016e644ddf6179fa50499904224 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Agree !
=A0
-f
=A0
BTW: I have to say that I don't like forum at all..

2011/1/11 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=
thanks Mark,
LD is essentiall= y the "home and birthplace" of that type of loop manipulation.
It would certainly be a shame if such discussions disappeared altogethe= r.

andy butler=20


mark francombe wrote:
May I make a question and sugges= tion?, and this really needs comments from those on the list who DO NOT use= Mobius, or any other piece of software/hardware we may use..

How much do these really in depth tech questions and threads bother you= in terms of the amount of traffic we have on LD?
If the information is = about in depth scripting, is that annoying for the rest of you?


--0016e644ddf6179fa50499904224-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 11:40:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A05418345B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WJpjQLBNmowchxNrelRORrZNc3AoPGBEtucluIiVAOM=; b=rXcWGiItO8a+5Navx6cqhkB4eZ9Ajx1BWQ2/SQcqRSaRK301ACRl00TP501OHmRdfJ gkjXNaQOBXTF4MYu2UenUQQ7ti2bsoPkxoEo1CxuVS0fJxeoe74u/Hndts6Rq3XuCpQg MYvondDEC7Ce634Chv2JIyR38k2SMQtUR3fcE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rwkTx1+5wdhunAl8iaGxwUhDsG6fHCZjElmmGylrfrvUsaaZpTVaOAyedSIB0ItlAt dhlGC2LfTk4YNP682SjRTZN0s0YQz1IaMN8UjAQkb+ywt98ZusNjKj7Z/x3Ce6ey9U80 vo38lqnzjP/z4PPlg63QghtT02h7sdJvn92Mk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:40:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:40:34 +0000 (UTC) > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Sylvain Poitras > wrote: >> Jeff is probably correct that the mobius forum is the right place for >> this, but please let us know here when you post something interesting >> over there... On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Highly seconded! What I meant is that I second assembling the Mobius community's scripting library at the Circular Labs Mobius Forum. It is good to have the shared library at one place. Forum administrators can then see to that the correct versions of each script is up for sharing. I do think it is totally appropriate to post scripts and discuss them here on LD. The beauty with this list is that people chat about any kind of weird techniques to goof around with live audio in performance. Since this is a mailing list there isn't a problem with too much information because mailing list subscribers can pick for reading only the threads that match their own interests. Myself I simply don't have time to read fora. (for a bunch of fora that I find interesting I use an RSS reader to follow forum threads as emails through Gmail) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 12:12:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01C4F183455; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary201421294747919636915" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:11:59 +0100 From: "Johannes Korn" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110111121159.201420@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #13417443 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19N3XEretNN6fvUll1aYujBIXIs+QxTiUVb5ApYW5 +hsjl84BALgubDVWiwcyDqbbRTavckOBCpXA== X-GMX-UID: PTMZJcUkZDIrBI2ItmY2sgN5emhmYwEM Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:12:04 +0000 (UTC) --========GMXBoundary201421294747919636915 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit These threads do not bother me at all. On the contrary, it is very interesting and inspiring to read what is posible with looping, even if I don't have the equipment to implement it. So please keep going! Cheers, Johannes > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:02:20 +0100 > Von: mark francombe > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script > (and another question!) > > > May I make a question and suggestion?, and this really needs comments > from those on the list who DO NOT use Mobius, or any other piece of > software/hardware we may use.. > > How much do these really in depth tech questions and threads bother you > in terms of the amount of traffic we have on LD? > If the information is about in depth scripting, is that annoying for the > rest of you? > > Genuine question, because to my way of thinking, LD is a good/great place > to discuss and work on these issues, as its amost live, and continues to > be the main hub for all looping issues. > > What I DO think its that the individual forums for specific pieces of > kit, are the right place for posting the finished concluded bit of code, > in its own sensible thread. > > The one thing I find annoying about forum threads is that you use a bit > of code, and it doesnt work, then 3 pages later someone posts the fix, > but not ALL the code just the fix, you you have to follow the WHOLE > thread to figure it out. > What I would like is to figure it out HERE.. live on LD.. but then post > the finished thing on Circular Labs. > > Sometimes, even though one might not understand another looper, one might > think... hmm.. wonder if I can do that with my MixABC/loopysoftware  > solution (insert your thang here) So like to here, for example. what is > possible on LP1 or Live or Sooperlooper, even tho I dont use them... > > Just a thought > > McF > > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > -- Johannes Korn - j.korn@gmx.de http://www.myspace.com/nashorn NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone --========GMXBoundary201421294747919636915 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable These threads do not bother me at all. On the contrary, it is very = interesting and inspiring to read what is posible with looping, even if I d= on't have the equipment to implement it.
So please keep going!
Cheers,
Johannes

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Tue, 11 Jan 201= 1 12:02:20 +0100
Von: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: Re: Stuttering tim= e, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!)
<= br />

May I make a question and suggestion?, and this really needs com= ments from those on the list who DO NOT use Mobius, or any other piece of s= oftware/hardware we may use..

How much do these really in depth = tech questions and threads bother you in terms of the amount of traffic we = have on LD?
If the information is about in depth scripting, is that a= nnoying for the rest of you?

Genuine question, because to my way= of thinking, LD is a good/great place to discuss and work on these issues,= as its amost live, and continues to be the main hub for all looping issues= .

What I DO think its that the individual forums for specific pi= eces of kit, are the right place for posting the finished concluded bit of = code, in its own sensible thread.

The one thing I find annoying = about forum threads is that you use a bit of code, and it doesnt work, then= 3 pages later someone posts the fix, but not ALL the code just the fix, yo= u you have to follow the WHOLE thread to figure it out.
What I would l= ike is to figure it out HERE.. live on LD.. but then post the finished thin= g on Circular Labs.

Sometimes, even though one might not unders= tand another looper, one might think... hmm.. wonder if I can do that with = my MixABC/loopysoftware  solution (insert your thang here) So like to = here, for example. what is possible on LP1 or Live or Sooperlooper, even th= o I dont use them...

Just a thought

McF

ma= rk francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.com=
twitter @mark= francombe
@markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
ht= tp://www.looop.no




--
Johannes Korn - = j.korn@gmx.de=0D
http://www.myspace.com/nashorn

NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen!
Jetzt inf= ormieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone
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it behaves in just the way rainer wan= ted it to and the loop length isn't altered

i stuck in a "w= ait cycle" before "the actual function", so i don't know= if that helped

sim

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:30 PM, = Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
I found some bugs that were causing the "deterministic chaos". = =A0It's complicated but it has
to do with latency compensation and = doing functions that change fundamental
playback properties like = location (slipforward) and direction (reverse) at exactly
the same time. =A0Here's a version that I think works, to avoid th= e bugs you have
to put "Wait last" after each slipforwa= rd and reverse function to make sure that
it is completely finish= ed (after the latency delay) before executing the next funtion.

Oh, I also had to change the final slipforward to "= ;slipforward 2" so that it skipped
ahead two subcycles. =A0O= therwise you would keep oscillating in the same subcycle
forever.=

Jef

-----------------------

!name autrev
Variable gl= obal PartRevActive

# toggle state
if Par= tRevActive =3D=3D true
set PartRevActive false
else
set PartRevActive tru= e
endif

# the actual function
= while PartRevActive =3D=3D true
slipforward
Wait = last
reverse
Wait last
wait subcycle
reverse<= /div>
Wait last
slipforward 2
Wait last
w= ait subcycle
next
end
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--0015175707f4afaf080499910d98-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 12:19:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E820A18347F; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=QJ4TFbkfS4o+mbTaeCIRvS9db/wqnPktFaAnFxNHbC4=; b=pC5qsT38s2x3ok/9kf29e96LVbm+Qmb/GQ/9dLVsW7VQEzq+ZEZX2uia8ThoFTsjjB qbE9SKJinyffmETldw+9W8c5KHRIMUzZgXhNuTD7kiseRKvEKWHTkbm4VTQFMFf7aDjK k/ZPsqyJcxuuklNwPznUFEMkdthRYwFO6P3P8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=RFcAC3RmCxMt62M4T0LpI0c4duPfAEjCmjjBrYyQlqgdM9xNiACCZsEDpDkNYh4mdD HpxN++Zt45sfGMuq6mAhSVZIuuR0NqQzgYStxUDigAcbHLkZ1M9dnGbzcsGwBTD6Cc1F 1QQ32pVFH/9E4GdLeBeovT5yAAebMkFOs0ios= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20110111121159.201420@gmx.net> References: <20110111121159.201420@gmx.net> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:19:27 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bVGBwDj-eBvP9pNpWfQ9Sa6Dzto Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8a4cb849420499911911 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:19:48 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8a4cb849420499911911 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Great! Because I think Jeff worries that too much in depth Mobius discussion will get annoying on LD, I dont think he should worry... But we should make sure to post results on the relative forums too, because that will be easier for newbies and searching for solutions... M --90e6ba6e8a4cb849420499911911 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great! Because I think Jeff worries that too much in depth Mobius discussio= n will get annoying on LD, I dont think he should worry... But we should ma= ke sure to post results on the relative forums too, because that will be ea= sier for newbies and searching for solutions...

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--90e6ba6e8a4cb849420499911911-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 12:39:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C79A718347F; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rTg3ZKlgJZRDgNEaULepOv2L13KL6VTiG3Aq5IoJVK8=; b=T/CAmNak4jfF/GijF89ZbFA22KHZxJJdrcDIfspas8arcXbM1mgHYetlKwQ3zVjLQT +hxw98pzG0khNBzmXBUPtmyWz4tO+kqr51lPMcn4sUmQ3NSZd3OQYSdu1Ace/oXb/6+C nZaIo5sNGnGHZzEVeNOL3eyAEE5aZN62LK84M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=M5kZPH3AnDCKPo12Bskdu2472f6np1AgQ3YqhSuDOMIJ24sYz4Qg8xyFfC9DdIGXyy 8XIv2SaVYlBI28+CmFuWpGKwCrbtca60kG4S9oxUPp9ncE8IPnVH5/FqXyLPaHs8HsD4 +JJy5gRmq057eyXEAbTze+seyvf9VBvThS2WM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <20110111121159.201420@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:37:09 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5d056ccd7bf0499915764 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:39:37 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5d056ccd7bf0499915764 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yup. i'm about to post all the stuff we've been doing over the last few days on the forum now sim On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:19 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Great! Because I think Jeff worries that too much in depth Mobius > discussion will get annoying on LD, I dont think he should worry... But we > should make sure to post results on the relative forums too, because that > will be easier for newbies and searching for solutions... > > M > --000e0cd5d056ccd7bf0499915764 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yup. i'm about to post all the stuff we've been doing over the last= few days on the forum now

sim

On = Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:19 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wr= ote:
Great! Because I = think Jeff worries that too much in depth Mobius discussion will get annoyi= ng on LD, I dont think he should worry... But we should make sure to post r= esults on the relative forums too, because that will be easier for newbies = and searching for solutions...

M

--000e0cd5d056ccd7bf0499915764-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 13:28:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED7DC183481; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s46Ux5CH1m5HH/J9l295NLWotyYPH3UyY9GLGe1CztY=; b=Zip83WUNzS2cEgiOu+IgagWaaOk2R6tY91+A90gPgTRxzr62I9OzzuhxVEceJV9MQJ qqR9j++NhEPQB6Fmj9L9tZoa9ftBrBRKpDR3PMO0fELttChMiR8pllpZ1q6TKBBW2PXW PMKtnQzLsL0Ff4oafiWy4MkD+AJIJJ12fK4NA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VGpbaU03XNqNTEN1Drze4DzqS6paz2OWQuq+gN8mT2tQ/4rKxlvFVn4jGSmNXiI//h b5WNJ9aXYvqjCHWGZp8AC7nYmM2LE2t25ssHl/Vs0RRhJhoe0fBLvfLQzgLyPg1+XUPE LTnfkwRtTYaMN8Sxd/Gzk+wSP1XSaueT35c9A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:28:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:28:50 +0000 (UTC) I don't want give the impression that I mind these scripting posts, in fact I find them fascinating... I just don't want to lose out if these discussions move over to the forum (which is not as convenient for me to follow). Sylvain On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:02 AM, mark francombe wrote: > May I make a question and suggestion?, and this really needs comments from > those on the list who DO NOT use Mobius, or any other piece of > software/hardware we may use.. > > How much do these really in depth tech questions and threads bother you in > terms of the amount of traffic we have on LD? > If the information is about in depth scripting, is that annoying for the > rest of you? > > Genuine question, because to my way of thinking, LD is a good/great place to > discuss and work on these issues, as its amost live, and continues to be the > main hub for all looping issues. > > What I DO think its that the individual forums for specific pieces of kit, > are the right place for posting the finished concluded bit of code, in its > own sensible thread. > > The one thing I find annoying about forum threads is that you use a bit of > code, and it doesnt work, then 3 pages later someone posts the fix, but not > ALL the code just the fix, you you have to follow the WHOLE thread to figure > it out. > What I would like is to figure it out HERE.. live on LD.. but then post the > finished thing on Circular Labs. > > Sometimes, even though one might not understand another looper, one might > think... hmm.. wonder if I can do that with my MixABC/loopysoftware > solution (insert your thang here) So like to here, for example. what is > possible on LP1 or Live or Sooperlooper, even tho I dont use them... > > Just a thought > > McF > > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 13:41:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 371E918347F; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8a5pA1rSuwbjsWHFiKCJ9krUlFx7bYR9O61c1NrCmg4=; b=LfLssgYCAUOZIXTnbkzHR3ezxtvnjaEA5/gHW8XMoFBD2GVTbA00OicCEne3HKcInj Ypzv9G2vJADn2XCvdcUH1kFd0Eh9xqxT3KczZ1dOpAHN7SJWsMlxwVqA5Sdu48PP8nOD qcRPwCJDP2hJ9nB23Zn7JyOZN0tgFNPfFVrm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Utn7BE1QCBAkHkdYGElTjhqU/GvcvUH4phm+ctiSGlDrrPGNHa9pdhiBS0HgpDIMEA mqxTD9BUbhfFuet7hPsaQQ4nC0Pk3zCsUUAi/BrM2OmLU3n62T5TaPVAtMZX/6OYACcQ 8IwcGK8ICg9CfjVnBhX5mBxBFJPThP21xp9VY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:41:22 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a8d87ad9a90499923ddc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:41:23 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a8d87ad9a90499923ddc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well i think we will continue to post anything interesting over here sim On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > I don't want give the impression that I mind these scripting posts, in > fact I find them fascinating... I just don't want to lose out if > these discussions move over to the forum (which is not as convenient > for me to follow). > Sylvain > > --000e0cd6a8d87ad9a90499923ddc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well i think we will continue to post anything interesting over here
sim

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Syl= vain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't want = give the impression that I mind these scripting posts, in
fact I find them fascinating... =A0I just don't want to lose out if
these discussions move over to the forum (which is not as convenient
for me to follow).
Sylvain

--000e0cd6a8d87ad9a90499923ddc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 13:56:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A4AA18347F; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2C618B.7030206@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:56:27 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) References: <4D2C3B6B.6040208@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D2C3B6B.6040208@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:56:35 +0000 (UTC) I strongly agree with Andy, who said, "LD is essentially the "home and birthplace" of that type of loop manipulation. It would certainly be a shame if such discussions disappeared altogether. " We've been over and over this point in the past. People have the ability to ignore a thread, and yet, by posting these discussions here, we have a universal clearing house for detailed information about all loopers, hopefully. Searching our archives for technical information is one of the truly great resources that we have here at Loopers Delight. My only request of each hardware/software loopers is that it would be nice when a thread has run it's course if someone would post a new thread with the final results and audio examples. To me, this is the only way we all have of evaluating whatever 'next' technology that we are going to invest time and/or money in. The Mobius threads are very technical if you don't use Mobius, but the results are incredibly fascinating and will lead to new developements in music techniques and software. So, I would just ask that people think specifically but finish globally so that we can all benefit from the entire discussion. my two cents, rick walker > > mark francombe wrote: >> How much do these really in depth tech questions and threads bother >> you in terms of the amount of traffic we have on LD? >> If the information is about in depth scripting, is that annoying for >> the rest of you? 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=0A=0A=0A=0A   --0-104538770-1294755765=:94971-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 15:01:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0A0F183476; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DhgjRr+7rMfFGSphj7Ci6Cp8FX1Pzz/y3sGmf3DNL5E=; b=OopCSqLhE4b9K4M5AhsIFocfbs19zGLe7ov1ocGW1gVGIDxQC4BRNqV0EcWw/TOYnH uKiN2SznRyb0QI+A/RkautWWxdcro7nXrjaSE3OsytkkVhuxZAH+Ka4v8h8Mko7WFGj5 pVS3whyVZXjFgbuAS5M36t9I+rwuqZd6vFDhM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=M+tQfyqf96yaEU3MHElXxfVfdtmHHy53973MI5LvEZ3ogWUxRwJX+68m0pfA9T64ZJ i3rH76/1dmT/mFnw3aPRRqADZH8vQnFVEe9fRZCpmCfn7R95KPEzGBGK3N2PAIbMpjc4 aycAF0N+vCKCnQNqTVpgh6Ul58B+jHOoo0bBg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D2C618B.7030206@cruzio.com> References: <4D2C3B6B.6040208@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2C618B.7030206@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:01:23 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a8d8a47e760499935b9c Resent-Message-ID: <-jNOR.A.VoE.EDHLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:01:24 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a8d8a47e760499935b9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 about to do that now On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I strongly agree with Andy, who said, > > > > "LD is essentially the "home and birthplace" of that type of loop > manipulation. > It would certainly be a shame if such discussions disappeared altogether. " > > We've been over and over this point in the past. People have the > ability to ignore a thread, > and yet, by posting these discussions here, we have a universal clearing > house for detailed information > about all loopers, hopefully. Searching our archives for technical > information is one of the > truly great resources that we have here at Loopers Delight. > > My only request of each hardware/software loopers is that it would be nice > when a thread has > run it's course if someone would post a new thread with the final results > and audio examples. > > To me, this is the only way we all have of evaluating whatever 'next' > technology that we are going to > invest time and/or money in. > > The Mobius threads are very technical if you don't use Mobius, but the > results are incredibly fascinating > and will lead to new developements in music techniques and software. > > So, I would just ask that people think specifically but finish globally so > that we can all benefit from the entire discussion. > > my two cents, > > rick walker > > >> mark francombe wrote: >> >>> How much do these really in depth tech questions and threads bother you >>> in terms of the amount of traffic we have on LD? >>> If the information is about in depth scripting, is that annoying for the >>> rest of you? >>> >> > --000e0cd6a8d8a47e760499935b9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable about to do that now

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011= at 1:56 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
I strongly agree with Andy, who said,



"LD is essentially the "home and birthplace" of that type of= loop manipulation.
It would certainly be a shame if such discussions disappeared altogether. &= quot;

=A0 =A0 =A0We've been over and over this point in the past. =A0 =A0Peo= ple have the ability to ignore a thread,
and yet, by posting these discussions here, =A0we have a universal clearing= house for detailed information
about all loopers, hopefully. =A0 =A0Searching our archives for technical i= nformation is one of the
truly great resources that we have here at Loopers Delight.

My only request of each hardware/software loopers is that it would be nice = when a thread has
run it's course if someone would post a new thread with the final resul= ts and audio examples.

To me, this is the only way we all have of evaluating whatever 'next= 9; technology that we are going to
invest time and/or money in.

The Mobius threads are very technical if you don't use Mobius, =A0but t= he results are incredibly fascinating
and will lead to new developements in music techniques and software.

So, =A0I would just ask that people think specifically but finish globally = so that we can all benefit from the entire discussion.

my two cents,

rick walker


mark francombe wrote:
How much do these really in depth tech questions and threads bother you in = terms of the amount of traffic we have on LD?
If the information is about in depth scripting, is that annoying for the re= st of you?


--000e0cd6a8d8a47e760499935b9c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 15:12:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F91818345B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HGXOkLqZ/8utOMjnKgXQw817S8X+TgEiw4cDrJ3gtLI=; b=tgDtDltP2f9WFFzTJ0kIN1EWbYZJM6NLG3gY8SaQH+zMZOepCGW3PQC2ge78SxZ8QP OWW9iJ4EnR2OStcD+NQvC6YTI/gSdE1BoIO1tRcoal1CX51NHRdOSFAfshf4XMFObfBl KAFlOnBmo0Z0nmA+LhQCtfVB6SBiuBMPLd5u4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZENFqpHQrZ30X1tNawWn+O2dVlpBikELHEuXFcl9v3qOTJU501v6GM/5gPyU7nbO71 buBfvpAt7Iv2ACd/lA9Yot2rLO/Olvr3csd5QUjEfzN9HR5Et9ydFpyTxsZs8Cz5LydE RA+US7nyxUQ1Xk/4bWeVGJbW3TM+z7qzdjeWU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:12:46 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a8d85aed6c04999384f5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:12:47 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a8d85aed6c04999384f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 follow the link, ladies and gentlemen... http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/ the folder contains... autoreverse4.mp3 chords.mp3 dropstop.mp3 reich.mp3 stutter.mp3 stutterdrop.mp3 windowing.mp3 autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does exactly what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the loop divided into 4 chinks here. chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a single note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chords. i play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chords i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've put this here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already uses something very similar. dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a slice and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to end your performance reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto track 2, panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided into 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount you like. try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to slow down the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer. stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this grabs the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need to be tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just trigger the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it randomly. use undo to get out of it i've posted the scripts over on the circularlabs forum sim --000e0cd6a8d85aed6c04999384f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
follow the link, ladies and gentlemen...

http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/
the folder contains...

autoreverse4.mp3
chords.mp3
dropst= op.mp3
reich.mp3
stutter.mp3
stutterdrop.mp3
windowing.mp3

autorev= erse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does exactly what r= ainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the loop divided= into 4 chinks here.

chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a s= ingle note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to fo= otswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chords. i = play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chord= s i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've pu= t this here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already = uses something very similar.

dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a = slice and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to e= nd your performance

reich - this is my copypan script. track one is = copied onto track 2, panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop= is subdivided into 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide a= ny amount you like. try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak= this to slow down the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern = lasts longer.

stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this= grabs the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle

st= utterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need to be = tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync

windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just= trigger the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it r= andomly. use undo to get out of it


i've posted the scripts o= ver on the circularlabs forum

sim
--000e0cd6a8d85aed6c04999384f5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 15:40:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28E3D183458; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP1 upgrade References: <20110110171038.4vt1c459usgkkg08@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D2BCB34.2080801@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D2BCB34.2080801@cruzio.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:39:48 -0500 Thread-Topic: LP1 upgrade Thread-Index: Acuxpcxg6w4Z1YalTNCKeaIapTWdqA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2011 15:40:51.0395 (UTC) FILETIME=[ECFD8930:01CBB1A5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:40:52 +0000 (UTC) No worries, it was working fine but something changed, I didnt upgrade but s= tarting playing wuth the reverse function some, and maybe its just a coincid= ence but I started losing midi control for some reason.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 10, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >=20 > Warning, as of right this moment (and probably until a couple of weeks at= least after > NAMM, version 1.38g is NOT STABLE. >=20 > You can go to the Looperlative website to find out how to download and ins= tall > an earlier version. >=20 > If you have problems, I might have the instructions somewhere on my compu= ter. >=20 > sorry for your problems, Andy but we'll be on it very soon. >=20 > rick walker >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: >> http://www.looperlative.com/upgrades/version1_38g >>=20 >> Quoting Andy Owens : >>=20 >>> Anybody have any ideas how to get the lastest LP1 software updgrade? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Andy O >>>=20 >>>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 16:45:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 466B4183477; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:44:37 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33069-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD7FC5F39145E4-1598-13BD1@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:44:59 +0000 (UTC) <>.....sez mark that's why god made the delete button! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 16:50:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D61218347A; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 554910336/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.54/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.54 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMCAMsYLE1YbR82/2dsb2JhbAAMlhzLX4VMBI4i X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,307,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="554910336" Message-ID: <4D2C8A4E.7030808@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:50:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EchoLoop vs mobius References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net>, In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Gareth Whittock wrote: > What's the difference between echoloop and mobius guys? Echoloop is totally based on the EDP, but with stereo loops. For multitrack use it's possible to simply use more than one plugin. (and to use midi to select which plugin you wish to control). There's a number of other improvements too. as yet, Echoloop is still in the Beta stage of development. Mobius was originally conceived as an edp clone, but long ago went it's own way. The way Mobius handles memory is different to the EDP/Echoloop at a very fundamental level, so it could never have been an accurate emulation...but then with years of subsequent development based on user suggestions it really doesn't need to be. afaik Multiply in Mobius isn't quite a copy of the one in the EDP, and no doubt there's other differences in the way that "EDP named" functions work if you look hard enough. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 17:40:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A54B18345F; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O50R0jsZK+pAUaCRFq4WMEPmgpd2KjDyhqthVPXrn80=; b=c+6uw6TOn1q+u7LAi+MvM04QoV1WkaXvhh9P93NQ1oWBBtN8nNzwmgLENSI29K0ODl SfOdFGXKZrE0ibwhHunrBVyZ1B7HgLtLghpOkUvphquhhdOXlm4jm7/Nxhd9MT6Yn9el 6GId1HkVSLVXIi06qa2BB7xKoDG2IDvMrxT9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KPwuxkKLrVW5pmWzS3oE3hA7TyAqBjzMycsxgQI/hZpMy+dsSzvuTQHbHS08uNHxwE QMLxmTJs5kSJfeGj0PcanUi84sKJwqyCR975UUYT7G8gTbb9AHAGPAfbD5VPGPzsUX+R 0LGlPBQ1+oL/1g2+7KLUOLtUYdx1UjC4kaKuk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:39:56 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b83c0b046b00499959255 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:40:00 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b83c0b046b00499959255 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As a "manufacturer" I have mixed feelings about this. Almost all products have a dedicated support forum of some kind. It is expected by the users and it gives the manufacturer control over the content so they can organize, edit, and possibly republish things in a different form like, oh say a script library. But product forums do tend to become "walled gardens" without much information exchange about other products which can be helpful. And they tend to be focused on nuts and bolts rather how you might use it to create something interesting. I'm happy that people seem to be interested in Mobius discussion. Such discussions have been happening for the past six years over on the zonemobius list, it wasn't until I tried to move everyone to a forum that things started leaking over here. I'm not sure what that means :) I obviously can't control where people post, but here are some suggestions. If you have an "I'm a new user and I can't figure out where to plug in the MIDI cable" kind of question, ask it on the forums since people here are not likely to care. At the other end of the spectrum, power user questions like "how does latency compensation effect the timing of adjacent function statements in scripts" or "why do I have a syntax error on this line", or really any kind of "why doesn't this work" question belongs in the forum since no one else cares. But...things like "I wonder if Mobius can do X", or "check out this cool technique" or "I published an interesting script", or really any kind "hey look what I made!" post can certainly belong on LD as well as the forums. Thanks, Jeff --0016363b83c0b046b00499959255 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As a "manufacturer" I have mixed feelings abo= ut this. =A0Almost all
products have a dedicated support forum of= some kind. =A0It is expected
by the users and it gives the manuf= acturer control over the content
so they can organize, edit, and possibly republish things in a differe= nt
form like, oh say a script library.

B= ut product forums do tend to become "walled gardens" without much=
information exchange about other products which can be helpful. =A0And=
they tend to be focused on nuts and bolts rather how you might u= se
it to create something interesting.

I'm happy that people seem to be interested in Mobius discussion.
=
Such discussions have been happening for the past six years over
=
on the zonemobius list, it wasn't until I tried to move everyone
to a forum that things started leaking over here. =A0I'm not sure<= /div>
what that means :)

I obviously can't= control where people post, but here are some
suggestions.

If you have an "I'm a new user and I can't= figure out where to plug
in the MIDI cable" kind of questio= n, ask it on the forums since people
here are not likely to care.=

At the other end of the spectrum, power user questions = like "how does
latency compensation effect the timing of adj= acent function statements
in scripts" or "why do I have= a syntax error on this line", or really
any kind of "why doesn't this work" question belongs in = the forum since
no one else cares.

But..= .things like "I wonder if Mobius can do X", or "check out th= is cool
technique" or "I published an interesting script", or r= eally any kind
"hey look what I made!" post can certain= ly belong on LD as well as the forums.

Thanks,
Jeff

--0016363b83c0b046b00499959255-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 17:58:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D75CB183460; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q8+Xiuc5YRS3YQ7ZLqn3e1XA8LMCgDVeWMquD4vyiSE=; b=Ecr0sjokbCqAKpQak3a+SjpE4GsNSZuoMF9RhjqLxgrb80qMcZepzMIrXqmkjnTn1r /Wxj03sGEh0oARAxQQ6cyVwaBWwGCVnaeQNPJvoMaftLRLAnosyVkG6IweDWMbExlhpw wtsk37ItUJbJ0A9tph0NbO4e1qZULZDU0GYzw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qfXmeu0h2HdugNpHgEj+3ZtARyLIH3TU+SM0ataclaHryVKlyqUIQXgAIXGR983MwW SIZJ3dsEoIal14ybt8yVPgo18av+xy3yByEWdlba7tn6ccRw3C5h8Upx9YbUpNivhe3F 3YU7ksPBtcIOJsnmJWkKGJcbqgrzCCjTkj4CU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:58:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64135ea9321c3049995d487 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:58:24 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64135ea9321c3049995d487 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Those scripts will keep me busy for the entire week testing (expecially the "Reichesque" one). Thanks, really thanks for sharing. -fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2011/1/11 Simeon Harris > > follow the link, ladies and gentlemen... > > http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/ > > the folder contains... > > autoreverse4.mp3 > chords.mp3 > dropstop.mp3 > reich.mp3 > stutter.mp3 > stutterdrop.mp3 > windowing.mp3 > > autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does exactly > what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the loop > divided into 4 chinks here. > > chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a > single note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to > footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chords. i > play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chords > i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've put this > here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already uses > something very similar. > > dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a slice > and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to end your > performance > > reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto track 2, > panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided into > 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount you like. > try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to slow down > the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer. > > stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this grabs > the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle > > stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need to > be tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync > > windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just trigger > the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it randomly. > use undo to get out of it > > > i've posted the scripts over on the circularlabs forum > > sim > --0016e64135ea9321c3049995d487 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Those scripts will keep me busy for the entire week testing (expeciall= y the "Reichesque" one).
Thanks, really thanks for sharing.
=A0
-fabio
=A0
=A0

=A0
2011/1/11 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.co= m>

follow the link, ladies and = gentlemen...

http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/

the folder contains...

autoreverse4.mp3
chords.mp3
dropsto= p.mp3
reich.mp3
stutter.mp3
stutterdrop.mp3
windowing.mp3
autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does exact= ly what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the loo= p divided into 4 chinks here.

chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a s= ingle note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to fo= otswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chords. i = play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chord= s i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've pu= t this here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already = uses something very similar.

dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a = slice and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to e= nd your performance

reich - this is my copypan script. track one is = copied onto track 2, panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop= is subdivided into 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide a= ny amount you like. try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak= this to slow down the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern = lasts longer.

stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this= grabs the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle

st= utterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need to be = tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync

windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just= trigger the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it r= andomly. use undo to get out of it


i've posted the scripts o= ver on the circularlabs forum

sim

--0016e64135ea9321c3049995d487-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 18:01:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A282183460; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=226ceFeJ+Ctoy3TLSMAz3Kd8AEt3f/br755aP1GzO4I=; b=pID2Zsrep8XdBX8huzxQFyISrZBwR08q2J6eufmeUFUdpYfLbq7dcFpDboFzSuQTB8 qJW4HCpkQfbZJWPXCLilIh8J4cPPL9un8HtFh5Iz7WY6UB6Q4pw+OTooJu2ZixKDDHCB rteopX8dCRSrCBMHx/IY4j4+S4MaWjY4O5HOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KwA2Iw6OY8P67LS8Qu3uecMyB8RSU87cQpYcWqoU06azLP0dYtP9J0OVZf8rQ891d4 v8YR9NBDN0AY15nlqfDyGG0QyYsBZXFW0ogfo3KxDnxBZ116t3LcWmgF6J6U+4Wz7OcO YmJnL5ySrmrs6XcqI9Htx+oC9xIxdz6fpOjfo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2C8A4E.7030808@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> <4D2C8A4E.7030808@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:01:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EchoLoop vs mobius From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644ccec6a45b5049995df99 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:01:27 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644ccec6a45b5049995df99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Andy Butler said: > The way Mobius handles memory is different to the EDP/Echoloop > at a very fundamental level, so it could never have been an > accurate emulation... > Andy, (apart Multiply issue) can you explain more about your statement ? I'd like to learn more about it. -f www.eterogeneo.com --0016e644ccec6a45b5049995df99 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy Butler said:
The way Mobius handles memory is= different to the EDP/Echoloop
at a very fundamental level, so it could = never have been an
accurate emulation...
Andy, (apart Multiply issue) can you explain more about your statement= ?
I'd like to=A0learn more=A0about it.
=A0
-f
=A0
=A0

--0016e644ccec6a45b5049995df99-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 18:04:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7FD9183460; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PFLx6iIpo1pEy6mzdM4jkFT1hlUMAJT50TjGRF8C6jY=; b=bGW4ceC0QmWfv6k3nX2yuLgj4nv84t31w+7dvqOhDWZrxiyUIwg3j7+wkppn34DlmV hoQ0poCEv2+m2svCD8WPMVnaXQkaR+tLax3ui4VFUTtfO6yhdAkGUDoXg10/qRBi0i63 LLHeU2D6uae7IcC4DXlZm1w65ulo2Cw7N48t8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=lNpZuy7AabGThtw40eJSHbp+Yhq7tuavwIDGJzF8d1Z/n6yW7uKWQkFJs5rRHy859P VUr68fbn7XTSXJ9GWuFXvCklNMf+7EfxJ4RJIJTDk7cVtVJ8D/4O6lIMMVejwVPaXkyy EFkcWoK6yzXCzbxQl2acknOvInDmZpuytOO58= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:04:48 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175707f495a05c049995eb38 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:04:50 +0000 (UTC) --0015175707f495a05c049995eb38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 you're very welcome fabio! On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Those scripts will keep me busy for the entire week testing (expecially the > "Reichesque" one). > Thanks, really thanks for sharing. > > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > > > 2011/1/11 Simeon Harris > > >> follow the link, ladies and gentlemen... >> >> http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/ >> >> the folder contains... >> >> autoreverse4.mp3 >> chords.mp3 >> dropstop.mp3 >> reich.mp3 >> stutter.mp3 >> stutterdrop.mp3 >> windowing.mp3 >> >> autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does >> exactly what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the >> loop divided into 4 chinks here. >> >> chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a >> single note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to >> footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chords. i >> play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chords >> i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've put this >> here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already uses >> something very similar. >> >> dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a slice >> and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to end your >> performance >> >> reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto track 2, >> panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided into >> 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount you like. >> try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to slow down >> the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer. >> >> stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this grabs >> the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle >> >> stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need to >> be tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync >> >> windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just >> trigger the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it >> randomly. use undo to get out of it >> >> >> i've posted the scripts over on the circularlabs forum >> >> sim >> > > --0015175707f495a05c049995eb38 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you're very welcome fabio!

On Tue, Ja= n 11, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:
Those scripts will keep me busy for the entire week testing (expeciall= y the "Reichesque" one).
Thanks, really thanks for sharing.
=A0
-fabio
=A0
=A0

=A0
2011/1/11 Simeon Harris <simeonharr= is40@googlemail.com>


follow the li= nk, ladies and gentlemen...

http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/
the folder contains...

autoreverse4.mp3
chords.mp3
dropsto= p.mp3
reich.mp3
stutter.mp3
stutterdrop.mp3
windowing.mp3
autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does exact= ly what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the loo= p divided into 4 chinks here.

chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a s= ingle note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to fo= otswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chords. i = play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chord= s i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've pu= t this here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already = uses something very similar.

dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a = slice and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to e= nd your performance

reich - this is my copypan script. track one is = copied onto track 2, panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop= is subdivided into 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide a= ny amount you like. try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak= this to slow down the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern = lasts longer.

stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this= grabs the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle

st= utterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need to be = tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync

windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just= trigger the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it r= andomly. use undo to get out of it


i've posted the scripts o= ver on the circularlabs forum

sim


--0015175707f495a05c049995eb38-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 18:26:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B529A183460; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=g1PkbTwMzdd04ia5gpm5x3ql51lZW/huGQO0HdGQRc8=; b=cwbdDtjUuHfX8RQqAtW2KeEWNHw0Z+wqMB7LZr6MXt9zRb4mE43E2uZHE6hI+8XT+k BUy+mBWlZ/6dY6bVmqMf8Devt8XrfLX793GqEyf2icYmj7dpD0DMl7gGKzqVUu64k73z SA5YlooNqW5h+/kvo4vX5Ektt5NeGq4XQ4F7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YM7RiUHE4GQbjs6LJVcRCZ4wgqJo5fj6gmKIW3M63lL4CLY5BY1c000Ek/5B3L+Knp EXFyCVmAjebNf5rDfn/v5V/w+hZR2vpVcLR89/Sw7reSeyLyUW5fLB9MDy3Q8BfoVLWp MAFZPZmnW6jHruZ3ZRyfCd9y1LSt+nNdwPfp4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:26:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30433e3a1d351c0499963828 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:26:14 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30433e3a1d351c0499963828 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been following this thread interested but have not responded other tha= n one note to Jeff direct but the scripting is getting my interest. I used Mobius for a while last year but switched back to hardware. Near the end o= f using it last time I began to visit the scripting. I'm going through a lot of self-edu right now in Apple SDK so Mobius and it's script language have my interest so thanks for all this recent dialog. Per I enjoyed your stick piece btw and will chk Simeon's others here. Good thread fellas... Jim On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > > follow the link, ladies and gentlemen... > > http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/ > > the folder contains... > > autoreverse4.mp3 > chords.mp3 > dropstop.mp3 > reich.mp3 > stutter.mp3 > stutterdrop.mp3 > windowing.mp3 > > autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does exact= ly > what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the loop > divided into 4 chinks here. > > chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a > single note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to > footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chords= . i > play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chords > i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've put this > here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already uses > something very similar. > > dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a slice > and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to end y= our > performance > > reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto track 2, > panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided into > 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount you like= . > try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to slow down > the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer. > > stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this grabs > the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle > > stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need to > be tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync > > windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just trigg= er > the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it randomly= . > use undo to get out of it > > > i've posted the scripts over on the circularlabs forum > > sim > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf30433e3a1d351c0499963828 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been following this thread interested but have not responded other= than one note to Jeff direct but the scripting is getting my interest.=A0 = I used Mobius for a while last year but switched back to hardware.=A0 Near = the end of using it last time I began to visit the scripting.=A0 I'm go= ing through a lot of self-edu right now in Apple SDK so Mobius and it's= script language have my interest so thanks for all this recent dialog.=A0 = Per I enjoyed your stick piece btw and will chk Simeon's others here.= =A0 Good thread fellas...

Jim

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:12 AM,= Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

follow the link, ladies and gentlemen...

http://simeonharris.co.uk/au= dio/mobius/

the folder contains...

autoreverse4.mp3
ch= ords.mp3
dropstop.mp3
reich.mp3
stutter.mp3
stutterdrop.mp3
windowing.mp3

autorev= erse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does exactly what r= ainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the loop divided= into 4 chinks here.

chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a s= ingle note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to fo= otswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chords. i = play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chord= s i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've pu= t this here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already = uses something very similar.

dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a = slice and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to e= nd your performance

reich - this is my copypan script. track one is = copied onto track 2, panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop= is subdivided into 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide a= ny amount you like. try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak= this to slow down the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern = lasts longer.

stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this= grabs the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle

st= utterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need to be = tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync

windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just= trigger the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it r= andomly. use undo to get out of it


i've posted the scripts o= ver on the circularlabs forum

sim



--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf30433e3a1d351c0499963828-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 18:29:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4630E183460; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) thread-index: AcuxvVgMTOPDcWIcRMO8kNP6dWHrwA== Message-ID: <8FF9C13C-FBC2-47D5-85DA-5002E6525924@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:28:18 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2011 18:29:17.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[74DBFAA0:01CBB1BD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Hey its all good, no worries, no bother, it got me looking deeper into what I= could do with lp1 so all good, except when I started using more of those fe= atures it started crashing on me lol.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 11, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Jeff Larson wrote:= >=20 > As a "manufacturer" I have mixed feelings about this. Almost all > products have a dedicated support forum of some kind. It is expected > by the users and it gives the manufacturer control over the content > so they can organize, edit, and possibly republish things in a different > form like, oh say a script library. >=20 > But product forums do tend to become "walled gardens" without much > information exchange about other products which can be helpful. And > they tend to be focused on nuts and bolts rather how you might use > it to create something interesting. >=20 > I'm happy that people seem to be interested in Mobius discussion. > Such discussions have been happening for the past six years over > on the zonemobius list, it wasn't until I tried to move everyone > to a forum that things started leaking over here. I'm not sure > what that means :) >=20 > I obviously can't control where people post, but here are some > suggestions. >=20 > If you have an "I'm a new user and I can't figure out where to plug > in the MIDI cable" kind of question, ask it on the forums since people > here are not likely to care. >=20 > At the other end of the spectrum, power user questions like "how does > latency compensation effect the timing of adjacent function statements > in scripts" or "why do I have a syntax error on this line", or really > any kind of "why doesn't this work" question belongs in the forum since > no one else cares. >=20 > But...things like "I wonder if Mobius can do X", or "check out this cool > technique" or "I published an interesting script", or really any kind > "hey look what I made!" post can certainly belong on LD as well as the for= ums. >=20 > Thanks, > Jeff >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 18:33:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44538183477; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ccdtC3pbbKMX8DlvM8bINzITs2AODYojTT4uauZsyZc=; b=v+IIi4HekMjVxThOww6p4w/dbY6rLMNMIeYBGblIf9wnNj0D5jdO7geTeCXteWR8cZ MUJGZFAC/3BI/KLIFOS3qi7UTLXDboDGISMuFuIeWg20/Y0nJqhXFAT3AGFbQR6dIeiZ zDz6ubJBF6YZEc5G7L50zLQbchSECCDNkZM5E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N8IrSY+OPB5Ot4obvZW4wdiAHzf+CTJ4IDycNNkkRZ00K0ONgjNfUY4DF/qXUz0NIC D6jYhg0zus8bcP7oeQRftNN9A88xzs9fxHd+JZ4zsSg/XlVlRyRkawJkKwK0Ylh19XYW 5HAdzoFrT+HrgPHI3Iyuxw6MLdzC6hqRsahtY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:33:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a7196e10a604999653c8 Resent-Message-ID: <6RsRRC.A.5OF.QKKLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:33:52 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a7196e10a604999653c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simeon I particularly like chords and windowing. I know these are just illustration sketches but think chords is touching some neat water. Thx again for the inspiring thread. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > I've been following this thread interested but have not responded other > than one note to Jeff direct but the scripting is getting my interest. I > used Mobius for a while last year but switched back to hardware. Near th= e > end of using it last time I began to visit the scripting. I'm going thro= ugh > a lot of self-edu right now in Apple SDK so Mobius and it's script langua= ge > have my interest so thanks for all this recent dialog. Per I enjoyed you= r > stick piece btw and will chk Simeon's others here. Good thread fellas... > > Jim > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >> follow the link, ladies and gentlemen... >> >> http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/ >> >> the folder contains... >> >> autoreverse4.mp3 >> chords.mp3 >> dropstop.mp3 >> reich.mp3 >> stutter.mp3 >> stutterdrop.mp3 >> windowing.mp3 >> >> autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does >> exactly what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have= the >> loop divided into 4 chinks here. >> >> chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a >> single note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound t= o >> footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chord= s. i >> play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chords >> i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've put this >> here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already uses >> something very similar. >> >> dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a slice >> and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to end = your >> performance >> >> reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto track 2, >> panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided int= o >> 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount you lik= e. >> try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to slow dow= n >> the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer. >> >> stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this grab= s >> the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle >> >> stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need t= o >> be tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync >> >> windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just >> trigger the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it >> randomly. use undo to get out of it >> >> >> i've posted the scripts over on the circularlabs forum >> >> sim >> > > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a7196e10a604999653c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simeon I particularly like chords and windowing.=A0 I know these are just i= llustration sketches but think chords is touching some neat water.=A0 Thx a= gain for the inspiring thread.

On Tue, Ja= n 11, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
I've been fol= lowing this thread interested but have not responded other than one note to= Jeff direct but the scripting is getting my interest.=A0 I used Mobius for= a while last year but switched back to hardware.=A0 Near the end of using = it last time I began to visit the scripting.=A0 I'm going through a lot= of self-edu right now in Apple SDK so Mobius and it's script language = have my interest so thanks for all this recent dialog.=A0 Per I enjoyed you= r stick piece btw and will chk Simeon's others here.=A0 Good thread fel= las...

Jim


On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris= 40@googlemail.com> wrote:

follow the link, ladies and gentlemen...

http://simeonharris.co.uk/au= dio/mobius/

the folder contains...

autoreverse4.mp3
ch= ords.mp3
dropstop.mp3
reich.mp3
stutter.mp3
stutterdrop.mp3
windowing.mp3

autorev= erse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does exactly what r= ainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the loop divided= into 4 chinks here.

chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a s= ingle note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to fo= otswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chords. i = play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chord= s i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've pu= t this here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already = uses something very similar.

dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a = slice and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to e= nd your performance

reich - this is my copypan script. track one is = copied onto track 2, panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop= is subdivided into 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide a= ny amount you like. try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak= this to slow down the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern = lasts longer.

stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this= grabs the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle

st= utterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need to be = tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync

windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just= trigger the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it r= andomly. use undo to get out of it


i've posted the scripts o= ver on the circularlabs forum

sim



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz record= ing by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this= CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com



--
From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a7196e10a604999653c8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 18:55:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB09F183460; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:55:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EiJDWRQ2+tDR/xjGdxZLq7vOYG0hPFT385GTB9TXQzY=; b=T6Pa12kdVEuBmiVcWjQZy6G8NYPqny6BYWkUhpVEbrBuW/p4uEM6hZ2yamkNEWusNZ 2pnIweno7gqKZmCde/9AN/MPOPKMXEdBXaEmrVAJbdMchbku9tDFz2Gh5E5xd3/iFKtm 9VsQ3ybnhsCxcwckFsaG/bu/WIJ9XyXM1LVDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cOWL+Z10GGM7jYjzuZyG3nbsk6kBK7Z4V7J+AaXqnsFH9XDc5V4tR1OxfAK6cToKWe VA4giH5BEkodp8bsaa02h8cew8HInsmcdO9nqiZjwCEp1hQwe78WvbaFR7TwhDm5kwFQ efpzSolMsVhItfKHlNq0lpZdb7Ld+WYDLucXo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> <4D2C8A4E.7030808@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:55:25 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EchoLoop vs mobius From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb05e9b618f049996a0a4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:55:28 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb05e9b618f049996a0a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 [andy] > The way Mobius handles memory is different to the EDP/Echoloop > at a very fundamental level, so it could never have been an > accurate emulation... Well, I wouldn't say "could never have been" but certainly "would have been difficult" or even "could have been but why" :) [Fabio] > Andy, (apart Multiply issue) can you explain more about your statement ? > I'd like to learn more about it. The EDP manages memory like a long tape that you are continually recording onto. Undo in the EDP is then just rewinding the tape. Loop windowing is really just a form of undo where the tape is rewound by an amount defined by the last Multiply/Record. Mobius manages memory more like a DAW, it records lots of individual "segments" then splices and overlays them in real time. There are advantages and disadvantages to both approaches. Loop windowing is more difficult in Mobius for example because there isn't just one block of memory I can "rewind" in. I have to determine where the fragments of recordings are than need to go into the window and splice them together to generate a new segment. It isn't horribly difficult but it does take some work to get the cross fades right. The main advantage I see of a segment-based architecture is it gives you the various "instant" functions in Mobius: Instant Multiply, Divide, Shuffle, and others. It has the ability to stop, completely reorganize the current layer, then start playing it immediately. With a "tape" architecture, you are always creating the next layer gradually *while you are playing* the current layer. Anyway, this design difference is the reason for a lot of subtle differences between Mobius and the EDP. I honestly didn't understand the EDP architecture very well at first, I just did things the way they made sense to me at the time. In retrospect most of the changes I made I prefer, such as being able to Undo an unrounded multiply rather than forcing you into loop windowing. Some I'm not entirely happy with, like not having loop windowing at all. At this point I have no desire to ever make Mobius a true EDP emulator. The core will remain EDP-ish, but for several years I've been more interested in moving it in the direction of Ableton Live, with better support for "DJ" looping like pre-recorded clip triggering and MIDI sequences. Jeff --0015175cb05e9b618f049996a0a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

[andy]
> The way Mobius handles memory is = different to the EDP/Echoloop
> at a very fundamental level, s= o it could never have been an
> accurate emulation...

Well, I wouldn't say "could never have been&qu= ot; but certainly "would have
been difficult" or even &= quot;could have been but why" :)

[Fabio]
> Andy, (apart Multiply issue) can you explain more about your stat= ement ?
> I'd like to learn more about it.

<= /div>
The EDP manages memory like a long tape that you are continually<= /div>
recording onto. =A0Undo in the EDP is then just rewinding the tape.
Loop windowing is really just a form of undo where the tape is rewo= und
by an amount defined by the last Multiply/Record.

Mobius manages memory more like a DAW, it records lots of in= dividual
"segments" then splices and overlays them in r= eal time.

There are advantages and disadvantages t= o both approaches. =A0Loop
windowing is more difficult in Mobius for example because there isn= 9;t
just one block of memory I can "rewind" in. =A0I ha= ve to determine where
the fragments of recordings are than need t= o go into the window and
splice them together to generate a new segment. =A0It isn't horrib= ly
difficult but it does take some work to get the cross fades ri= ght.

The main advantage I see of a segment-based a= rchitecture is it gives
you the various "instant" functions in Mobius: Instant Multi= ply,
Divide, Shuffle, and others. =A0It has the ability to stop, = completely
reorganize the current layer, then start playing it im= mediately. =A0With
a "tape" architecture, you are always creating the next laye= r
gradually *while you are playing* the current layer.
=
Anyway, this design difference is the reason for a lot of su= btle
differences between Mobius and the EDP. =A0I honestly didn't under= stand
the EDP architecture very well at first, I just did things = the way
they made sense to me at the time. =A0In retrospect most = of the changes
I made I prefer, such as being able to Undo an unrounded multiply
rather than forcing you into loop windowing. =A0Some I'm not enti= rely
happy with, like not having loop windowing at all.

At this point I have no desire to ever make Mobius a true ED= P
emulator. =A0The core will remain EDP-ish, but for several year= s I've
been more interested in moving it in the direction of = Ableton Live,
with better support for "DJ" looping like pre-recorded clip = triggering
and MIDI=A0sequences. =A0

Jef= f

--0015175cb05e9b618f049996a0a4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 19:10:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F9BB18347A; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eILdIvX6yQlwONnSuqYSs7FbiQ7XMBg945w363m9EvI=; b=LZXXuOqurU2zpskA9A4MeaiX+d0HHnOIIV+8cGUTElDjBg/u38KCq0cZIQ2y/jwGv0 GxVLbcZp/fqSR2fAFAYV6ckj53nl19NH3Zt8yk2rQtL+Hstf88em3B3m110ubtUpQOQt eG43dSZe5ibutGfg+eLaLYGLGT2s2v9J+ImYE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=avKdtD5NseM9paLF3OjUIcUIA/hckLLegXJye1IyPMgdFU7YdNM0NciofmFXCnxbY4 u8b8l8tFu1mYSUf/1ltzsH7ba5vHQd6uyNJExAWeuQMRnImew+iRUsCWKDfIZXf5Euew IJCE+vROkmC00XVRlqlCN4S8GxEbjM2Y86WZI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> <4D2C8A4E.7030808@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:10:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EchoLoop vs mobius From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:10:03 +0000 (UTC) yes man,thars a ticking bomb right there!! but somehow importing prerecorded clips and looping with them doesnt seem to work really well,though i should say i havet tried that in recent upgrades,anybody doing anything with that? cheers Luis > At this point I have no desire to ever make Mobius a true EDP > emulator. =A0The core will remain EDP-ish, but for several years I've > been more interested in moving it in the direction of Ableton Live, > with better support for "DJ" looping like pre-recorded clip triggering > and MIDI=A0sequences. > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 19:15:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 481FE18345F; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wYHeDqjRpdOKUWilH8TjTh/jUHP//Etq0vLjkWIjzy8=; b=LHc7OFE+isVQ0J2VEpcrSOf2e6qX71UueZzmiEvMK41Tp7EUXO7CvEFpj13Wr/ymcd qU7cPjhJXfONzmr8cqLpYDTCsQata4guG9bHeP+iyLmEi4dy0WAATQ4Irz5kfNsjgMJr QPvzVxxWyNB+lFJm3Rv37ITkaB1c0wi3qTWFg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=rGcgmCkSKdIdrr9JOU9ASjkaDkYY8O9aoE51ZuvfBmWOpB34G1/5nfkPttMwhxdF5j G7g0F6xa7hRRSh9ydwLDTNOP1ZrVgcvlqyOligQ2hBJxfC9jKpjCoTLPjE5rhT01xrSM tcbBuXdRxfts6VCcLJH1wkBVOk/mswm8W5vWk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:15:04 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a98ae19de3049996e607 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:15:05 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a98ae19de3049996e607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks jim! writing the script is only half the process really. it's what you find you can do with it later that's the fun part. per is very good at this second part and always seems to manage to come up with something very musical, very quickly. it takes me a bit longer, but it's a nice process, nonetheless. sim On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Simeon I particularly like chords and windowing. I know these are just > illustration sketches but think chords is touching some neat water. Thx > again for the inspiring thread. > > --000e0cd6a98ae19de3049996e607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks jim! writing the script is only half the process really. it's wh= at you find you can do with it later that's the fun part. per is very g= ood at this second part and always seems to manage to come up with somethin= g very musical, very quickly. it takes me a bit longer, but it's a nice= process, nonetheless.

sim

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, = Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Simeon I particularly like chords and windowing.=A0 I know these are just i= llustration sketches but think chords is touching some neat water.=A0 Thx a= gain for the inspiring thread.

--000e0cd6a98ae19de3049996e607-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 19:21:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22F3B18345F; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jDaYLSxRiq6meGOtQWhrwHa31Wh0XF16DlgBTgR1u+8=; b=eULqnTO+QPHt6mdOlRSFQae8Wvhzhm/+6ieTbz/YH+bZkEFR+rNyz5PNnDJxoJl/u8 JX0fjAoEFjPVx65uLQUa6jvtZRjAS6nae/4c7grcKdGS9XGrXpcd8/yb55K0HL0wFEQM fePn/ChwO0hRh1Q2Udkp7Kym55zMfE/NcNDOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d+AIGOQwPvOBGDaeIlWhnpKkLrzhnY1qDHWcz9tagUxKmyUY9SjC32os/3cN6pVDvX YJcAyio7lg3SSUbtbTV8IVFQK//QUIYXKd3v0Qq9g3hnopmk+Srmnfu8Wg5uyGRpyA9/ 2Aqe6cw4KDyCWo1bkIgRapO5URonFC8HFFZUA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2BA27B.1070207@cruzio.com> References: <4D2BA27B.1070207@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:21:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-PT2_C.A.B_G.d2KLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Rick bro you are going to love Mobius,as i said after messing with the EDP and the LP1 and not being completly there, i found the answer with mobius! i just wish it was hardware;-( To do basic looping is really easy, specially you being familiar with both devices as well,once you get your laptop if u are in a budget get the cheap presonus firebox,works excellent with mobius and rock solid with midi syncronization,then download the free program grab your mic,spray your hair and start messing with it baby! cheers Luis On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > A request, guys, for all these cool new scripting ideas that you are comi= ng > up with > for Mobious for all of us non-users: > > would you please post some audio examples so that we can tell what, > musically, has > been created with all your new scripting work. > > It's fascinating but I just don't know the program and am interested in h= ow > it can move > the music along (perhaps leading towards me using the program, =A0hint, h= int). > > thanks, =A0it all sounds a fantastic, though, > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 19:43:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E6D6183483; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RpKZvy/8W7gxsqrjgZeLeWrRbIlSc9G1JtpCBddAgB8=; b=ZfBfBen0lbSzJu6FqX2KfDMKjKObw5iYKz6uTNC4SqVvb+sKCYdyzs+WCp/MCixz20 41v3NZvm5hjkLreTgXTHxJ137EEfnetFJVUdCZm/yP7/p3Y96tGXNuuzig349TvXfqQ0 Tcx+RIlUgiYw4HXuDLdZCSNCgscS/9wo4OZxg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UqUyO/h5gRs5OvJymn930wqr/g1oA8Vzg8cfTIjUlUf8GdCXiMuFDpnJ5liwfZD+9M R58XxUcoMq6MfPwSZE+YYVk+iFaIQJD4VXdKrBFotvrn1h+dEZu3/e70viw5PaXybM8L rR1VgdObTKMxQ6mjqejDSlbyG2iqXyxcHo0Uc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> <4D2C8A4E.7030808@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:43:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EchoLoop vs mobius From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:43:35 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > At this point I have no desire to ever make Mobius a true EDP > emulator. =C2=A0The core will remain EDP-ish, but for several years I've > been more interested in moving it in the direction of Ableton Live, > with better support for "DJ" looping like pre-recorded clip triggering > and MIDI=C2=A0sequences. Wow! Sounds cool. It would be great if Mobius could host AU and VST plugins: on each track pre loop as well as post loop and of course also on the master output. I would gladly shell out the cash for buying new third-party plugins needed to replace Mainstage's sound design tools in order run such future standalone "Mobius Plugin Host" application. Personally I would rather see Mobius to grow closer to Numerology than to Ableton Live. I just mentioned on the Mobius list that it would be cool to have built-in global "dynamic control objects" like all kinds of LFO, step sequencers etc. These should not send MIDI but simply control data that can be "cabled" to affect any parameter in the app (or to generate MIDI notes, if you are so inclined). A quick example: Let's say you want a tremolo on track 1; right-click on the track volume fader and chose "LFO, synced". A modular system for real-time sampling and loop mangling that handles both audio signal path addressing and dynamic control data for real-time processing (simply chose a controller, target a parameter, set the value change range). Do a search on You-Tube for Time Exile, his Reaktor builds are very inspiri= ng. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 20:04:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96A1F18347B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wl5HCL+qONZofIq7NUGxjT+Kz5SCAXjDSmSd57NSHFs=; b=XvBbwIwueb/8Vmlo+hkDKuZ2htsPp6axWB5iMKVKUiH+l+ya1EAVKwivylpFAg/UDz XNGYqCT/Xwo6PB/oJUoPHbgS/V6qRyZmtVC+zq4WbFU1T0cUZGu6nuPR0CMICqfdBLYP YH7Oi9iT/mfhLE7Q6xsBLVjoJzBMsyuKEXJRE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AEWPLK92qtSWAUxYXz6Zxv3gJxdReEjPPidf5mmiZ4Z0VqNI4EBnsa1SE9X0kpu+Nr JfvPPgehbZ8AcDzSeSXph/6uTCFeYXo7wK4Co62pDGMRLs6zlBFgdDnoFQOp3g7OIMtv 0DK8BB/3U2IGxWyWZDJT2K7R4s4bc9WRmT5N8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> <4D2C8A4E.7030808@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:04:10 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EchoLoop vs mobius From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb82074a2e30499979605 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:04:12 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb82074a2e30499979605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh, I forgot this...here is a document I wrote a few weeks ago aimed at EDP users that want to know how Mobius is different than the EDP. It is organized like the EDP manual so you can hopefully pick an EDP topic of interest, then locate the corresponding Mobius discussion. I'm sure I missed things, but it's a start. If anyone has something to add please let me know. http://www.circularlabs.com/doc/edp.htm Jeff --0015175cb82074a2e30499979605 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, I forgot this...here is a document I wrote a few weeks ago aimed at EDP=
users that want to know how Mobius is different than the EDP. =A0It is= organized
like the EDP manual so you can hopefully pick an EDP t= opic of interest, then
locate the corresponding Mobius discussion. =A0I'm sure I missed t= hings, but
it's a start. =A0If anyone has something to add pl= ease let me know.


Jeff

--0015175cb82074a2e30499979605-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 20:59:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA092183460; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id :message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority :sensitivity:importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type :mime-version; bh=p7O7TLSL66fUaCAdxnfySuks0zysHHgcy7SL1UQljoA=; b=wsVqeVDyaCV4pcvqjjekO6X4e0r8aH0q+dNv8hRe22u/TNK42MdwF/Qj+eTUi3scq2 /7IiJUQwzOjBbgkQIcmI4hlvSkc2Gis+UwCOZaOi8H+GM4QjyBGez2RbYhxYjuE1KFUz Tdxpg47Ml3WGFwV6djkh9em4KzUe4hS3Lyh4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :x-priority:sensitivity:importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type :mime-version; b=Q5dTm3XwsS7yW8YTQbttPtFFTfWWfRf2E1sfHkeWcH9dM1hTBQM7dQtpv8oqdrJnPf W1hSVebdNjJj5DmMAlHFqFIbKsMP6ets4yIZ71QminyYz+fsg2GkXaMramnxTfxCNXb+ udO1ftzLWOY3LCdV2HuJGlU311MRvcsKT1gzI= X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1834879558 Message-ID:<1834879558-1294779538-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1346317506-@bda2355.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Reply-To: gnarlyheman@gmail.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: WaS:mobius script From: gnarlyheman@gmail.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:00:28 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:59:04 +0000 (UTC) SSBoYXZlIExEIGdvaW5nIHRvIG15IGdtYWlsIGFjY291bnQsIGdvZXMgdG8gbXkgc21hcnQgcGhv bmUuIA0KSSBhbSBwcmV0dHkgbXVjaCBkZWxldGluZyBhbGwgdGhpcyBNb2ViaXVzIHN0dWZmLiAN Ckhvd2V2ZXIsIGl0J3MgaW50ZXJlc3RpbmcgdG8geSdhbGwtLWxvdCBvZiB0aGUgc2FtZSBuYW1l cyBzdGlsbCBoZXJlIQ0KVG9vIGJhZCBhYm91dCBLaW0tLVJJUCBzcGVlZCByYWNlciAuIC4gLg0K SSB3YW50IHRvIGhlYXIgYWJvdXQgdGhlIExQLTItLQ0KRw0KU2VudCBvbiB0aGUgU3ByaW50riBO b3cgTmV0d29yayBmcm9tIG15IEJsYWNrQmVycnmu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 21:34:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD061183460; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Looper, instrument or a recorder? 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Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hxlIpgQouZof/+sJfWXU2zkRDD6PFDYuKyQp9RYTcQQ=; b=JWj8qIvSWwoKQfKu5hddzp2KQIZIKTvY3hs+sBef2JNZXlWA/Tqq5EKMAZBFO8w/7x PHXppIJm0MGCmGU+UpHgqQ6a8upkxQitB52m/mlvFMvlY4Hc2HcriInZjAyJIdUHPyMT TPAYQT7Pta4a/MCnfWcOHhq1szb3MuYrHgTfE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d49B9gDCP8jznYYGDL55o4IuP5lVJ6uXO82KnIfmNE/y/7nDPxxjlXhm0Bnm6UNIyz EYuwQmPECBjAdf2UzUdyCUaJMyjrrdokm5Gmve62VA9JQIpKSOUeC+UxmeiZg/nvEsDO 20YYZeAXR+cb3Yn+PIW+dD1IUQ5g9PzSVh0ps= Message-ID: <4D2CCD31.5000804@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:35:45 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) References: <4D2BA27B.1070207@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo schrieb: > To do basic looping is really easy, specially you being familiar with > both devices as well,once you get your laptop if u are in a budget get > the cheap presonus firebox,works excellent with mobius and rock solid > +1 on the Presonus Firebox - I had been using that myself a lot for my live setup (actually Rick, all the time we spent together in a live context - your festival 2006 and the various occasions 2008) I was using this thing, and although it's not by any means one of those audiophile or feature-ladden beasts, it would be my recommendation for a reliable budget audio interface - still use it for feeding the MoinSound Studio Sessions into the stream... -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 21:37:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8017B18345F; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vq5iW+6ROSAtmoS+reTfRvPd3B4vr104ulMIq/t6K0o=; b=vvti1zZamTWqufDCe8CogQURrK3hbUYWHbdBXhqD7RApJKbhPrv0TTmESArYtC9Ksq x9Qi3H1P1d56/g5GmzguMeN7AwteDX0vFCA3hJqYD8LS6FZH9x8M5egrh/mzg46gpuyP ux4o3muOkzRUClWAgvAZrAANzheqdxmb6SbS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wXea0UN2Gs5fcxD/0OvllcQ7Mqwsa90puSJNSwhEWNOI52KEtf1rUfJjRK5FQL4hzQ fIWtvgSc65DCjDA6QStn84nipX96OvSoo+c9HdWCIFz+sCIOMe6dW1hhZ5m9Or1RdGUr 2zG4cSlrL9sow20pLIroGTOqTRX7dZtLPQ4PI= Message-ID: <4D2CCDA0.7040709@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:37:36 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looper, instrument or a recorder? References: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Funnily, the scripting approach goes both ways - both dumb up and down. I remember very early in the Möbius discussions (about just after scripting was introduced, I believe), there was someone who had written a set of scripts to exactly mimic a DL4 behaviour using Möbius. > From a business, product veiwpoint it would seem to be the reverse of > dumbing down a product, to dumb it up so high that it might scare off > a large percentage of the people that might use it. But I guess thats > what the boomerang and 2880 etc are there for. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 21:40:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C81A183460; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HmWM8HEvlpwhpWtDUuiyluWCuPwUPceL0vHjRcyWf0w=; b=JySKYk6fHhEVcVHciblfQhwPv1ni7vSKxFpQCo4DjUkZ54d9C9YmMhlec3D4/2SMl1 ThNim5AOB7b/pESNk3aBsw++rOBuD2rbZFxUSsW2wmHTbiblW6huniQnsEDbDEdszn6N Lwc1g38l7yVvX4rUgz/ca3wPKZUTQkM1s+vek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YyOpPdyaeX3NVd6wYRXC6ik2dZthKIYT+karGZGB/fRkoMketTWmrreq4G5L/saolc dnw57GSY7KkkuthCn2vFQQl7SIHHNraxgJ+d/ag2OqL17I3rW2dbeuP2Eid9f843NWQf QJAWgtSiEyhk5o1dM2u5lQTiNfr4vn3OeeKKc= Message-ID: <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:40:16 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_lfc7C.A.HEE._4MLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Dear Jeff and Simeon, thanks for your help in this! I found I had to upgrade from 1.42 to 1.43 first, but then, using the original "slipforward" (not slipforward 2), I got exactly what I intended...gee, what fun! The best thing is if you change 8thspercycle - or make a copy of the loop, and have the script running on both copies, each with different 8thspercycle settings - instant gratification! > actually i got this to work much better if i changed "slipforward 2" > to "slipforward" > > I found some bugs that were causing the "deterministic chaos". > It's complicated but it has > to do with latency compensation and doing functions that change > fundamental > -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 21:40:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC89A183483; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101110103 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-11_08:2011-01-11,2011-01-11,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Message-id: <8E33766F-B8BB-4BF2-A645-34C1EA88A7C0@mac.com> From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: EchoLoop vs mobius Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:40:38 -0700 References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> <4D2C8A4E.7030808@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <5PnnGB.A.EJE.Z5MLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Yes, hosting AU/VST per channel would be great, though not interested in the "pre-recorded clip DJ thing" - don't use that in Ableton anyway .... On Jan 11, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Jeff Larson > wrote: >> At this point I have no desire to ever make Mobius a true EDP >> emulator. The core will remain EDP-ish, but for several years I've >> been more interested in moving it in the direction of Ableton Live, >> with better support for "DJ" looping like pre-recorded clip >> triggering >> and MIDI sequences. > > Wow! Sounds cool. It would be great if Mobius could host AU and VST > plugins: on each track pre loop as well as post loop and of course > also on the master output. I would gladly shell out the cash for > buying new third-party plugins needed to replace Mainstage's sound > design tools in order run such future standalone "Mobius Plugin Host" > application. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 21:51:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8919D18348A; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CQoY9OyD3a7VrUj8IJ8m06W0IFC8PQ6SlZ0p5Dqi4wA=; b=lgFRpO8IxYYUBPTqF9AkBttncVyXA54WnU+znt5nU7H5ElC3CcM2R38ViI6NkVdeCp oDUJB9fflWqksjii8lW4dBKzmrm/cFOph0NxhDm0pDcs12agFUNZBNy3OaZEjWIL5rVw gbPmuQbnQ3hM8bnAofEl5SLEipiXEUJ+Yv0Fg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=OfHK6BC8rE0AcfqoeYQ3uI4cNPbfizlzoQo8lzXT8TH1xecTrcXcRq7CCJuTFWc9MX k2Wp6A/XR+CalqOyLOBxAHko2Shc0dZxHSCywPE68k8MqBMbF5osg+HAFcW1xxe9owsI YZCE38EfKjNfzA4/ZNbbWirBJ1WnROql0BUec= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:51:16 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd52e707df3e1049999150e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:51:17 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd52e707df3e1049999150e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yeah, it's a nice one, isn't it. seems to work on lots of different material and 8thspercycle settings thanks for the idea! sim On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Dear Jeff and Simeon, > > thanks for your help in this! I found I had to upgrade from 1.42 to 1.43 > first, but then, using the original "slipforward" (not slipforward 2), I got > exactly what I intended...gee, what fun! The best thing is if you change > 8thspercycle - or make a copy of the loop, and have the script running on > both copies, each with different 8thspercycle settings - instant > gratification! > >> actually i got this to work much better if i changed "slipforward 2" to >> "slipforward" >> >> I found some bugs that were causing the "deterministic chaos". >> It's complicated but it has >> to do with latency compensation and doing functions that change >> fundamental >> >> > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --000e0cd52e707df3e1049999150e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah, it's a nice one, isn't it. seems to work on lots of different= material and 8thspercycle settings

thanks for the idea!=

sim

On Tue, Jan= 11, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrot= e:
Dear Jeff and Simeon,

thanks for your help in this! I found I had to upgrade from 1.42 to 1.43 fi= rst, but then, using the original "slipforward" (not slipforward = 2), I got exactly what I intended...gee, what fun! The best thing is if you= change 8thspercycle - or make a copy of the loop, and have the script runn= ing on both copies, each with different 8thspercycle settings - instant gra= tification!
actually i got this to work much better if i changed "slipforward 2&qu= ot; to "slipforward"

=A0 =A0I found some bugs that were causing the "deterministic chaos&q= uot;.
=A0 =A0 It's complicated but it has
=A0 =A0to do with latency compensation and doing functions that change
=A0 =A0fundamental


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--000e0cd52e707df3e1049999150e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 22:00:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6661183494; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ME3r7faYYXgdqGsFSMxMjqNBZPlMqqzmf4P8e4LaypI=; b=mNZTdwYWyqlHN6V2Nnht4kmfwpqXOmdAfohL5YOGOoODAzxb2UDvvFrPCm1jn/rYHc VA1tZRDlAbEAUinN0NoIYSBZB2dH2W2Q65FHIly69wfXzdh6ufiUIWvJ9vq4TQcGpZTF BXzV/wo7NG4Bx5ZH9Z1hukgiPgx+HUy18X/Wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a8V0UjKKD75Ew7abiECJO24pXRsrgUxanuzi6wayvwwkndRbNu29kwKjEhFVGTJz66 htx1QBoC9X4DffF535KV9QE9Do7jEHTTBkA/Gg5MLAYDI1TJjGTUGp0dTnUsv2EUTsfw XPWq6iIT02XvGASuhVicn/Ngrf4GLPV4CQLUw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> References: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:00:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper, instrument or a recorder? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_gqbVD.A.S6E.TMNLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:00:52 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > With all this script talk and etc, it makes me see that in some ways a > looper starts becoming an instrument vs a record/instantplayback device. Indeed an interesting observation! Those are the two main approaches to live looping, "instrument vs recorder". But maybe it's actually the musician that chooses to use a looper as an instrument, rather than the looper "starts becoming an instrument"?. Myself I started to loop "instrument style" on a regularly basis a decade back with the hardware loopers of that time that allowed live processing of instantly captured sound (EDP, Repeater). In 2005 I migrated most of my performance patches into software, as Mobius then became available. > At > some point arent you just really building sounds like you would on a moog or > something, versus capturing musical sounds that you've played? I'd say live looping is a completely different bag. Does the expression "Instant Composing" ring a bell? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 22:02:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68C1618349B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2CD367.5030109@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:02:15 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Stuttering time, gentlemen! (Re: another fun mobius script (and another question!) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:02:23 +0000 (UTC) This all sounds fair and reasoned out................what he said! rick walker On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > As a "manufacturer" I have mixed feelings about this. Almost all > products have a dedicated support forum of some kind. It is expected > by the users and it gives the manufacturer control over the content > so they can organize, edit, and possibly republish things in a different > form like, oh say a script library. > > But product forums do tend to become "walled gardens" without much > information exchange about other products which can be helpful. And > they tend to be focused on nuts and bolts rather how you might use > it to create something interesting. > > I'm happy that people seem to be interested in Mobius discussion. > Such discussions have been happening for the past six years over > on the zonemobius list, it wasn't until I tried to move everyone > to a forum that things started leaking over here. I'm not sure > what that means :) > > I obviously can't control where people post, but here are some > suggestions. > > If you have an "I'm a new user and I can't figure out where to plug > in the MIDI cable" kind of question, ask it on the forums since people > here are not likely to care. > > At the other end of the spectrum, power user questions like "how does > latency compensation effect the timing of adjacent function statements > in scripts" or "why do I have a syntax error on this line", or really > any kind of "why doesn't this work" question belongs in the forum since > no one else cares. > > But...things like "I wonder if Mobius can do X", or "check out this cool > technique" or "I published an interesting script", or really any kind > "hey look what I made!" post can certainly belong on LD as well as the > forums. > > Thanks, > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 22:07:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26DE51834A4; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=we1twYYzz6zunLTfNua1KxAOFWbmiVGeu+BmCL1rR+U=; b=x+91kqka+X1kBUnXiYximyH/4D1EaPz7WVbnzyZHXXteUQRZKchDUlwGdq32yG45rA fKuBl3F26NJoEKzKG8S+rXkohf09vVPtvUUZGTbmW6nMMiVxn+18g3yRUuUvwcgiEVqv tFDcknPgzLfRNtlRlHey26EDTH2cT3zPkJ1BE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mI87AyDOpBe68vstrW5AX79IWZ2g/2T7+tqxnR7YW/IycUHUUswVFcgZoYbtI748Z+ z0JuMGcjitT98p/f6THDAKOwmH/97aRkUEPRm5xxbzsnf4x8fV1COChVtuwFsSAb/OAC X+TeSNcEShwRQRO4lebIjBTMd9Bc2WkGXM6so= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> References: <4D2721C3.7020007@tiscali.co.uk> <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:07:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:07:24 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > The best thing is if you change 8thspercycle - or make a copy of the loop, > and have the script running on both copies, each with different 8thspercycle > settings - instant gratification! wow-wo-wo-woohh.... please stop it there! Rainer, are you saying you are able to run the script on two tracks affecting two simultaneously sounding loops but by different 8th Per Cycle settings on those two tracks? Shit, I tried that but didn't succeed in 1.42. Could this be something that only works in 1.43? Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 22:13:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2429183488; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2CD5EB.8000905@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:12:59 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simeon Harris CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090703020403030608040900" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:13:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090703020403030608040900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for taking the time to post these examples and explain them, Simeon. There is some very cool stuff here. I especially like the reich-ian effect (COPYPAN script) and would love to hear what it sounds like with a much larger integer loop division. You've got to make it out to the loopfestival one of these years to let us listen to your beautiful music. rick walker > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Simeon Harris > >wrote: > > > follow the link, ladies and gentlemen... > > http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/ > > the folder contains... > > autoreverse4.mp3 > chords.mp3 > dropstop.mp3 > reich.mp3 > stutter.mp3 > stutterdrop.mp3 > windowing.mp3 > > autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. > does exactly what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, > forward. i have the loop divided into 4 chinks here. > > chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i > record a single note into four tracks simultaneously and then use > scripts bound to footswitched to independently rate shift all four > tracks to create chords. i play over the top in this example. i'm > not totally happy with the chords i've created, but i will tweak > the scripts in the future. i've put this here, because per was > interested in hearing it, although he already uses something very > similar. > > dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a > slice and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun > way to end your performance > > reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto track > 2, panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is > subdivided into 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to > subdivide any amount you like. try 127ths for really slow shifts! > i think i will tweak this to slow down the rate of shifting, so > that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer. > > stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. > this grabs the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle > > stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will > need to be tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts > it out of sync > > windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i > just trigger the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then > kind of hit it randomly. use undo to get out of it > > > --------------090703020403030608040900 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for taking the time to post these examples and explain them, Simeon.
There is some very cool stuff here.  I especially like the reich-ian effect (COPYPAN script)
and would love to hear what it sounds like with a much larger integer loop division.

You've got to make it out to the loopfestival one of these years to let us listen to your
beautiful music.

rick walker

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

follow the link, ladies and gentlemen...

http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/

the folder contains...

autoreverse4.mp3
chords.mp3
dropstop.mp3
reich.mp3
stutter.mp3
stutterdrop.mp3
windowing.mp3

autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does exactly what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the loop divided into 4 chinks here.

chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a single note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chords. i play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chords i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've put this here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already uses something very similar.

dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a slice and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to end your performance

reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto track 2, panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided into 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount you like. try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to slow down the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer.

stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this grabs the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle

stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need to be tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync

windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just trigger the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it randomly. use undo to get out of it




--------------090703020403030608040900-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 22:18:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29D3E18348B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=V008hDT/jK23V5FN7w7v+RQebTM+fQC/r/bH9rmseAE=; b=fc0unSIh730UOLJmvsu0sAnPxwnDyAhBLk0NyW/AVD3L3MsyGzr5dGrZq7xTs5B+Gy wPCQOg/+PS8sEfFIuP40f33geGUJjt5120bVbDTDlbgq4/7WTB0zFpBq34mMakOt7rGy kQyp8dKAvztmt/FTr5fG2fHq8tuoCWe1RhIBs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=I42+TeFelZXrRLrfir8OWUhlev3BhdTyee9V6Qaai0xMWhI477jdh29wvuzw2VmItP nBuLKZ1kxmdLxeASDoa/wEgXGDXECWd10AMT0bACckBgtKpko0TKn1SygOXDgIysFuCC X5AE32RYFMCN9+b98O+P2h1QKb7XmyLvAn6H4= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Looper, instrument or a recorder? From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4D2CCDA0.7040709@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:18:29 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <65DA75BB-EC9E-43BC-930B-FD0B9DEEAE52@gmail.com> References: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> <4D2CCDA0.7040709@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Dumbed down scripting is my favorite way to use Mobius. Luiloop scripts! = One pedal for record, overdub, multiply, and reset. On Jan 11, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Funnily, the scripting approach goes both ways - both dumb up and = down. I remember very early in the M=F6bius discussions (about just = after scripting was introduced, I believe), there was someone who had = written a set of scripts to exactly mimic a DL4 behaviour using M=F6bius. >> =46rom a business, product veiwpoint it would seem to be the reverse = of dumbing down a product, to dumb it up so high that it might scare off = a large percentage of the people that might use it. But I guess thats = what the boomerang and 2880 etc are there for.=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 22:19:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A65F183492; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MuGfB1mPxTwCONuAvUJpoVyGnKo0WeuK/hvaIgdW1WY=; b=bSbJnEXkZArcB15CL3sU9ugiUpiIR1YjiIfSRxxI2hqOTcYJ2znyBFriEkn6i/fgDl Re09+i/7w0wrRyYAkxKTXc59GXYLbhPYc0vOUi+necd7nyyFK98Wto+5lso3BlS/UQhY niWIEnLnrZt3CW5f4U/Rpq0s8zY7IKcu4vOVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rnz381GfdRAejzrJJ8ExNwp58YWzmfo9nSx0grZRKdOMaj1dJio6L2zL5mp3ESxVaL PoE9cbuoJmXUAjOwW1h7LsbKN2BLiKfJKnX/2iyOLFfuKEXshdYoM7PtAMTp+Ci3WoIJ XfmtNDgqvFWDV3e4MNJw2fkEWEfyepUCJhZpM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> References: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:19:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper, instrument or a recorder? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:19:19 +0000 (UTC) It really depends on the user. I'd say most of the users I know (myself included) still use it as a record/playback device to enhance their instrument. One rule of thumb might be: how often do you put the guitar down and just play the looper? ...but I'm pretty strict with my definition of instruments. For example, I don't consider midi controllers to be instruments either. (They're interface devices for computers, which are the instruments.) -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt Andy Owens was all: > With all this script talk and etc, it makes me see that in some ways a > looper starts becoming an instrument vs a record/instantplayback device. At > some point arent you just really building sounds like you would on a moog or > something, versus capturing musical sounds that you've played? > From a business, product veiwpoint it would seem to be the reverse of > dumbing down a product, to dumb it up so high that it might scare off a > large percentage of the people that might use it. But I guess thats what the > boomerang and 2880 etc are there for. > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 22:20:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DEFC1834A2; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Y2kxx References: <4D2CD5EB.8000905@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-5-797071112"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <4D2CD5EB.8000905@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <26FE8A34-9145-42C6-A890-024CA8E617BD@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:19:26 -0500 Thread-Topic: Y2kxx Thread-Index: Acux3aKqzI749dUHSOOs9KfjX8hKHg== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2011 22:20:24.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE17CA30:01CBB1DD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:20:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-797071112 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Rick, sounds like you have good momentum out there for your loopfest, bu= t just wondering if you ever thought about piggybacking somehow on Moogfest i= n Ashville NC? Pretty big deal up here.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 11, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Thanks for taking the time to post these examples and explain them, Si= meon. > There is some very cool stuff here. I especially like the reich-ian effec= t (COPYPAN script)=20 > and would love to hear what it sounds like with a much larger integer loop= division. >=20 > You've got to make it out to the loopfestival one of these years to let us= listen to your=20 > beautiful music. >=20 > rick walker >>=20 >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >>=20 >> follow the link, ladies and gentlemen... >>=20 >> http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/ >>=20 >> the folder contains... >>=20 >> autoreverse4.mp3 >> chords.mp3 >> dropstop.mp3 >> reich.mp3 >> stutter.mp3 >> stutterdrop.mp3 >> windowing.mp3 >>=20 >> autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does exact= ly what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the loop= divided into 4 chinks here. >>=20 >> chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a sin= gle note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts boun= d to footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chor= ds. i play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chor= ds i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've put this h= ere, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already uses some= thing very similar. >>=20 >> dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a slice a= nd then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to end your p= erformance >>=20 >> reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto tra= ck 2, panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided i= nto 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount you lik= e. try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to slow down= the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer. >>=20 >> stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this grabs= the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle >>=20 >> stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this wi= ll need to be tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out o= f sync >>=20 >> windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just trigg= er the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it randomly= . use undo to get out of it >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-5-797071112 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hey Rick, sounds like you have good momentum out there for your loopfest, but just wondering if you ever thought about piggybacking somehow on Moogfest in Ashville NC? Pretty big deal up here. 

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 11, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

Thanks for taking the time to post these examples and explain them, Simeon.
There is some very cool stuff here.  I especially like the reich-ian effect (COPYPAN script)
and would love to hear what it sounds like with a much larger integer loop division.

You've got to make it out to the loopfestival one of these years to let us listen to your
beautiful music.

rick walker

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

follow the link, ladies and gentlemen...

http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/

the folder contains...

autoreverse4.mp3
chords.mp3
dropstop.mp3
reich.mp3
stutter.mp3
stutterdrop.mp3
windowing.mp3

autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does exactly what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the loop divided into 4 chinks here.

chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a single note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create chords. i play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chords i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've put this here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already uses something very similar.

dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a slice and then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to end your performance

reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto track 2, panned, multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided into 64ths here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount you like. try 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to slow down the rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer.

stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this grabs the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle

stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need to be tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync

windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just trigger the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it randomly. use undo to get out of it




--Apple-Mail-5-797071112-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 22:22:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 177071834A2; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Looper, instrument or a recorder? Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:22:44 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33069-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD7FF533F307D2-1230-3B20@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:22:55 +0000 (UTC) how often do you put the guitar down and just play the looper?.....sez=20 matt often.....sez me From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 22:29:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49A031834B4; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6/w/vE15sJxkEcQr80wUMH3IsjO3kWabhTamukf2VXY=; b=WPCuaUUrPel1dJSoz3iB1JlCIfY6bGL0iCtQ1u7yCtd12JBZVytb14od5gNlu2UFdG NCS547pDWMRq7FDPvSmpjOEl3n4xvQHJ025ImMMCUNpakYJaDbpmrPWKZEu6MiYNq6KM 8YGxv5p4AHpq6/2ysII9MuDTY5PKivB8dnqOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qSey2dcrBSPU2MES5DwqYoPquE988md6iRo90fFAH9nF7lvEMSCCMkx3K5L6/4DDu6 C2bColLYIK51lCZbPk87ewMsMwe24meqSAglUnLUnGkCw1TdSrA/VmIGZaHDHlAUaU4g auvDLNLiuOYquivCifLsGDY/SPE5oDK9qIwMA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD7FF533F307D2-1230-3B20@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> References: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> <8CD7FF533F307D2-1230-3B20@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:29:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper, instrument or a recorder? From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c104e853c810499999e36 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:29:36 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c104e853c810499999e36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Me too. Loopers and fx are instruments to me. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:22 PM, wrote: > > how often do you put the guitar down and just play the looper?.....sez matt > > often.....sez me > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0015174c104e853c810499999e36 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me too. Loopers and fx are instruments to me.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:22 PM, <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:

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--0015174c104e853c810499999e36-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 23:05:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 474E41834AF; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2CE238.6040806@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:05:28 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rainer Straschill CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Simeon's CopyPan script for Mobius (Re: a fun little mobius script and a question) References: <4D2CCD31.5000804@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D2CCD31.5000804@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:05:52 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > +1 on the Presonus Firebox - I had been using that myself a lot for my > live setup (actually Rick, all the time we spent together in a live > context - your festival 2006 and the various occasions 2008) I was > using this thing, and although it's not by any means one of those > audiophile or feature-ladden beasts, it would be my recommendation for > a reliable budget audio interface - still use it for feeding the > MoinSound Studio Sessions into the stream... Thanks Rainer and Luis for the recommendation. I've finally got completely fed up with my own M-Audio Firewire 410 ........(anyone wanna buy a cheap one? and need to invest in something new. Also, and I can't reveal details yet, but we are working on some very cool new functionality for the LP-1 along the lines of manipulating the loops in different kinds of rhythmic ways. We've actually been working on this for a bit of time (and before this current thread about Mobius scripting fun) but it all will dovetail beautifully with what's being created there. And yes, it really was the EDP that took the concept of a live looping box and made it into an instrument. I think great kudos need to go out to Matthias Grob, all the people who worked so hard on the software for that ground breaking instrument and, especially, Andre LaFosse, who really got in and innovated some very cool ways of using that software. Claude Voit was also doing very cool, looper as instrument work back in the day. I have to say, that I just love this community, for not only it's wonderful non-competitive and communal spirit but also for it's constant desire to innovate. I really feel like we are all part of something really tangible! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 23:09:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67D851834B2; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YubEh/3idTzzqfaBQ73wt7MW9A/Ago4p0xzLKCr8CsM=; b=wQXueQlEhr2iOS8ehDEf637ZI05XNXmlWoOWDkTBqZBY4PPuq7zCPErcHJDm7RVsCD FlKSEHLwrl74br9LWp7ut/ZH6GumpZzmn8tpDZHGjde6vTiYHwqY+pKfUI9UnWOxok0A Y/OHwkP7r3kwizZJUkFXzTAgQ+4Cic49cnEP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Dz02O83IKtOdZovhG8W6xyoyfyyzKsCJqnKNe8h3/dzCuhS/jWjvnf8Np+s50NWrKf BFNWc/itmKVyK7ybuSXo9w93npwVO5lBnzE3SXb/JmhzWGVq8H10GtZTJwe3oc4/sfi4 GjCpJwXxbsGe1qjBi4PIcEn1YdD9ZSQa5hRgg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> References: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 00:09:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper, instrument or a recorder? From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <4ZUCID.A.znH.ZMOLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:09:13 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > With all this script talk and etc, it makes me see that in some ways a > looper starts becoming an instrument vs a record/instantplayback device. I use loopers as creative tools and as instant composers. I don't have full control about what's coming out of my main outputs when I'm playing, live or in the studio; sometimes it's good, sometimes not ;-) The interesting thing for me about looping is that, usually, the resulting composition is far more interesting than a multi-track studio recording you've been working on for a long time. Improvised live looping music is pure, often more organic, sometimes even magical, often difficult to reproduce, unique. @simeon: You've been using Mobius a lot recently ;-) Looking forward to the Loopfest! -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 23:32:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DB3D1834AF; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0izyraLJJunkmT5n+UIDsUNEESFFb7IcM/m9VGsU3kk=; b=qKGpk9MEjNaEG3Gi4+FqThY3JAECUJD6hkt3CFgAUyPsTWTGW9GHRSJjo/RjKUPjcp 8K5O72JSJ2mc/NBybBPHxStBPxK3unN+88hsFZye8/i+8Src1epx/GZLvY0Wk3EBgsRo OYNisIvbZ8HhiOPa/geu4Ep+izt59KxLduMts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s8s1YHD8ttcjk892htPJqK7TbdVJ89z5h7XIO2solSh55d14nmjdsiBq8vxWQUH18K xO9ciSdyUN1VrUFdg8SiOUEPEU/TVWiFU37GIRKe6IZeCGGPUbm0vOg2IYP9X2CX1DDB 9Rql/30j5wneoyuhvFH1eMVKAiDiKaSIAd+/U= Message-ID: <4D2CE84E.5000400@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 00:31:26 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! References: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:32:53 +0000 (UTC) No, sorry, I can't. I meant to say that as "that would be cool, need to try that!" We'd need a local variable (local to one track) for that I guess - is that possible. Apropos 1.43 - it seems to me that suddenly all my favourite "switch all functions to sus mode" possibilities are gone - what has changed here? > wow-wo-wo-woohh.... please stop it there! Rainer, are you saying you > are able to run the script on two tracks affecting two simultaneously > sounding loops but by different 8th Per Cycle settings on those two > tracks? Shit, I tried that but didn't succeed in 1.42. Could this be > something that only works in 1.43? -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From customeercare1@live.com Tue Jan 11 23:38:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1655 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:38:23 UTC Received: from smtp2.telecomrio.com.br (smtp2.telecomrio.com.br [200.214.74.2]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A2D183460; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User (unknown [196.46.245.30]) by smtp2.telecomrio.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DB112C54; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:08:27 -0200 (BRST) Reply-To: From: "DR, JAMES MARK" Subject: ATTN:BENEFICIARY GOOD NEWS, Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 00:08:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20110111230828.B8DB112C54@smtp2.telecomrio.com.br> To: undisclosed-recipients:; ATTN:BENEFICIARY GOOD NEWS, WE WANT TO BRING TO YOUR NOTICE THAT WE HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED BY THE ECOWAS GOVERNING BODY THAT ALL ONHOLD FUND THAT HAS NOT BEEN TRANSFERED TO THE BENEFICIARIES DUE TO CERTAIN REASON THAT ALL BENEFICIARY SHOULD PROVIDE THE BELOW INFORMATION FOR DIRECT DIPLOMATIC DELIVERY OF THEIR FUND TO THEIR DOORSTEP. 1. 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REGARDS DR, JAMES MARK +234-80953-85279 customeercare1@live.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 23:47:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DB4F183488; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0DleBGhZmJ4GGrCr0UKwD//ZZQRC57O82AEEA+nQNSA=; b=kmVmzAUSvakqEEgy9vm+m02lhoF+oAG2JgMI1pO9wxYiwKWGxz+ZE00lLnDOFKxMzh dmBC4PEO1/l2XTAj0HtzMPyVDz0+nHLo8E+XL9nmFYHMHqqvX/CojJH4kJQ86yCtEH8P VZkP/hWgenqbqKW6yeKejszd49+cZ/0fPj9hw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=d1WhSNxajWpEVj20PpiYYoEX+Besbm3thraI2NvTsMEN74uQnjGWo9yhdaXQcLr7yZ 68JjIpcGdSUZTpZ6wVO4UbWKryk6q2smsyph7kb62+jWTEwewhbGKi37RbKSL/luU2vM jWJibkkjy6jzXzNGSUlkirrMiKdP8UlHm7YCU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2CE84E.5000400@googlemail.com> References: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> <4D2CE84E.5000400@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:47:09 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb6f2e6f3cd04999ab354 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:47:12 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb6f2e6f3cd04999ab354 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Rainer Straschill < moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > No, sorry, I can't. I meant to say that as "that would be cool, need to try that!" > We'd need a local variable (local to one track) for that I guess - is that possible. If I understand correctly, yes. Just change this: Variable global PartRevActive to Variable track PartRevActive > Apropos 1.43 - it seems to me that suddenly all my favourite > "switch all functions to sus mode" possibilities are gone - what has changed here? I'm not sure what you mean, most modal functions have SUS equivalents: Record, SUSRecord, Overdub, SUSOverdub, etc. I did remove a few preset parameters that I thought were relatively obscure like RecordMode=Sustain and InsertMode=Sustain, so if you were turning SUS behavior on and off with presets those are gone. I can consider putting those back, but I'd like to do it in a different way. Jeff --0015175cb6f2e6f3cd04999ab354 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Rainer Straschill= <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> We'd need a local variable (local to one track) for that I gu= ess - is that possible.

If I understand correctly,= yes. =A0Just change this:

=A0=A0 =A0Variable glob= al PartRevActive

to

=A0=A0 =A0Variable track Pa= rtRevActive


> Apropos 1.43 - it = seems to me that suddenly all my favourite
> "switch all = functions to sus mode" possibilities are gone - what has changed here?=

I'm not sure what you mean, most modal functions ha= ve SUS equivalents:
Record, SUSRecord, Overdub, SUSOverdub, etc. = =A0

I did remove a few preset parameters that I th= ought were relatively
obscure like RecordMode=3DSustain and InsertMode=3DSustain, so if you = were
turning SUS behavior on and off with presets those are gone.= =A0I can consider
putting those back, but I'd like to do it = in a different way.

Jeff

--0015175cb6f2e6f3cd04999ab354-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 11 23:47:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC9BC183490; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Looper, instrument or a recorder? References: <386395B2-92B4-4EDA-944D-043D0882CD11@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: Looper, instrument or a recorder? thread-index: Acux6dCQQfdNfCBLQ4+yi150ljLXIg== Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:46:39 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2011 23:47:47.0652 (UTC) FILETIME=[F33C9040:01CBB1E9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:47:48 +0000 (UTC) >=20 > ...but I'm pretty strict with my definition of instruments. For > example, I don't consider midi controllers to be instruments either. > (They're interface devices for computers, which are the instruments.) >=20 Haha not sure, I think the computer is an interface for your brain, which is= your instrument!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 03:03:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0080B18345B; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YJkEZqNF+7JeAoTL2+zlT9YMUm+A6KNWyxvCvX2AZU4=; b=A6Bi/fSV6hLOuuA8/RpFtN7jL1t2yUM4Cugk3FpAVfAAxqF643QPtITPrWH1Y+YgAR rmJvEwNYrFkQP2eraIhvA88kMEgxa0sVt0ftSB2mOO/z0xaHDfgaxXgQPt6Vmb24UQwS Pb0wNKgzf+AUQMXGZjBaE7u0RPTa6nn7t8FPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vMBP6r+Mfdda0tsbSa7dARzJOuE886PsbRYloCswhgoAGL+RSfiVGtH1ZP2ENICHOo DWDGwpCnUV1T2J+KtHdIcuzsda2gl4G0Nb/X0g7r4ajL6UEw83PjD9w9nOR1VXTr9IO7 SWstaIwT0QnDCRFmMJjm57qoWlUt+zCDNxfGg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> <4D2CE84E.5000400@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:03:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2dbbc7e8904999d719e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:03:25 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2dbbc7e8904999d719e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "I did remove a few preset parameters that I thought were relatively obscure like RecordMode=Sustain and InsertMode=Sustain, so if you were turning SUS behavior on and off with presets those are gone. I can consider putting those back, but I'd like to do it in a different way." Jeff here's a vote for reconsidering this. Having preset selections (including InsertMode=Sustain) bound to keyboard letters is a nice way of keeping the midi foot control as simple as possible. I've had 5 presets assigned this way for the past month or so and it has really opened up Mobius for me. I'd hate to lose it now. k On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Rainer Straschill < > moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > > No, sorry, I can't. I meant to say that as "that would be cool, need to > try that!" > > We'd need a local variable (local to one track) for that I guess - is > that possible. > > If I understand correctly, yes. Just change this: > > Variable global PartRevActive > > to > > Variable track PartRevActive > > > > Apropos 1.43 - it seems to me that suddenly all my favourite > > "switch all functions to sus mode" possibilities are gone - what has > changed here? > > I'm not sure what you mean, most modal functions have SUS equivalents: > Record, SUSRecord, Overdub, SUSOverdub, etc. > > I did remove a few preset parameters that I thought were relatively > obscure like RecordMode=Sustain and InsertMode=Sustain, so if you were > turning SUS behavior on and off with presets those are gone. I can > consider > putting those back, but I'd like to do it in a different way. > > Jeff > > --20cf3054a2dbbc7e8904999d719e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"I did remove a few preset parameters that I thought were relativ= ely
obscure like RecordMode=3DSustain and InsertMode=3DSustain, so if you= =20 were
turning SUS behavior on and off with presets those are=20 gone. =A0I can consider
putting those back, but I'd like to d= o=20 it in a different way."

Jeff here's a vote for reconsiderin= g this. Having preset selections (including InsertMode=3DSustain)=A0 bound= to keyboard letters is a nice way of keeping the midi foot control as simp= le as possible. I've had 5 presets assigned this way for the past month= or so and it has really opened up Mobius for me. I'd hate to lose it n= ow.
k


On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:47 = PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:31 PM,= Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> No, sorr= y, I can't. I meant to say that as "that would be cool, need to tr= y that!"=A0
> We'd need a local variable (local to one track) for that I gu= ess - is that possible.

If I understand corr= ectly, yes. =A0Just change this:

=A0=A0 =A0Variabl= e global PartRevActive

to

=A0=A0 =A0Variable track Pa= rtRevActive


> = Apropos 1.43 - it seems to me that suddenly all my favourite
>= "switch all functions to sus mode" possibilities are gone - what= has changed here?

I'm not sure what you mean, most modal functi= ons have SUS equivalents:
Record, SUSRecord, Overdub, SUSOverdub,= etc. =A0

I did remove a few preset parameters tha= t I thought were relatively
obscure like RecordMode=3DSustain and InsertMode=3DSustain, so if you = were
turning SUS behavior on and off with presets those are gone.= =A0I can consider
putting those back, but I'd like to do it = in a different way.

Jeff


--20cf3054a2dbbc7e8904999d719e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 04:00:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E362D18345E; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 04:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> <4D2CE84E.5000400@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <92ACDD0B-E696-4818-BCAB-0B96EF4D3EA1@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:00:35 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 04:00:38 +0000 (UTC) > On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > Jeff here's a vote for reconsidering this. Having preset selections > (including InsertMode=Sustain) bound to keyboard letters is a nice > way of keeping the midi foot control as simple as possible. I've had > 5 presets assigned this way for the past month or so and it has really > opened up Mobius for me. I'd hate to lose it now. Fair enough. You haven't lost it completely though. One of the under utilitized features of Mobius I think has been the MIDI Configuration (now called a Binding Configuration). You don't have to have just one set of bindings between MIDI commands and Mobius functions, you can have several of them, give them a name, and activate them with keys, program changes, or any other kind of Mobius trigger. They're a bit like presets except they only apply to MIDI assignments. There is one "base" configuration that is always active. Here you put the thigns that rarely change. Then there is one optional "overlay" configuration that you can change dynamically. You could design one overlay with your MIDI switches assigned to non-sustain fuctions, and another one with some or all assigned to sustain functions. It might be a bit more work than InsertMode=Sustain but it is much more flexible. For example you're not limited to InsertMode=Sustain, RecordMode=Sustain, and OverdubMode=Sustain, you can also swap in Sustain versions of Multiply, Mute, Replace, Reverse, and any other function that has a SUS variant. I'd be interested in seeing your mobius.xml file and exploring whether this would work for you in practice. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 04:02:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5CC918345F; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 04:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294804975; bh=/vSe0FTPVHX0ybwIvz4dzxgngv+uoN/HGOHV3puNTB0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cGWcw3yWFkKCMV9KzBya5IbNCDKGOBQtQ7VprNuJjkbFW41Mkgvn8YiEHao2hXzBvZCZn9rPlDCJRAvp2ed6vB74miIQP2tO+f9Zf+bJ08BDE65MQc3IjQPGOWZmY8pnhX5Mk/3a0ennvk7344w0o6zSptbfcij4fQLyoZBmNsw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jIP1btlQDx0OWOWmIYLUya3Op+noJMfZsf8As/0vTtLFEMnqIscoII5RHAq6xxhuyxw0644UPXOaFA+6SJRCuxJdONEKrXA8eaJChkwXYJjRE0HhYuADFF5SnrDiT1FMNJjhiPN2IDTPVTo3+adSqMwUj0RKP4LlhIUT+x0JW1E=; Message-ID: <826371.28436.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8pYRNTgVM1kFZqhfJjNQIT0Oex8vw5nMYpOZ.x4rZk5LYeG NF_KHTMjg7wgJ4waR70QgWOiGA6Y5Rb59paqrnMgKcOribBLX4ybaXdiieNy RLeeXaZ99wHPwL8BLyPnp9cNoXgsrvKOSZJorNNVzjy89A4WSxtfSxJd9v84 3DAauI3awhzgHo9rUc0vOdT5Jj9vCSP_T8AH1riYj8o4BYIQHQ_me6RpDnvu X2QSLMRkeS5iAHq.zFEgC_oeWTuI36f2ThvMkAl185vBdXDfJoTBuu8F71oa z7AXyhcNSAMV6t4pmpC62jaeliRH7_eJCLTAMQUeveQH4NxCckn6wLZBWC7m qrtA50wSNnTUabSgz7By29mrp3d06L1oS3eE8IPDXvrUmL81ZFGBzvT3v22l V6oP1YYVxcg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> < 4D2CE84E.5000400@googlemail.com> <92ACDD0B-E696-4818-BCAB-0B96EF4D3EA1@zonemobius.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:02:55 -0800 (PST) From: margaret noble Subject: Finally, Orwell 1984 Remix Album on Vinyl Record. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <92ACDD0B-E696-4818-BCAB-0B96EF4D3EA1@zonemobius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2087369699-1294804975=:28436" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 04:02:57 +0000 (UTC) --0-2087369699-1294804975=:28436 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have been waiting my whole life to press some wax! My records arrived today and I wanted to share my joy with the Looper's list!!! :-) http://margaretnoble.bandcamp.com/ --0-2087369699-1294804975=:28436 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I have been waiting my whole life to press some wax! My records arrived today and I wanted to share my joy with the Looper's list!!! :-)



--0-2087369699-1294804975=:28436-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 04:30:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D7E118345F; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 04:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rb3z8Uq7d8GBmPea9a6XcJkNDhbPJtIr9RCQ/EQDnWA=; b=n3AKfMf3YAREcf5kiC4hDpq20uUDkvM04S5z6Qe9rCOwkZ16P9YjmseZCBJOGwpyny avTtyVf7/uV/AQKaZghey2fk6LDm+xYpLAMIspV6ldVqF63c+OVAxCw4gmZK8dYk/K0O FYEtbBLFu6DIVedi2inbwbj/7G4Y4weT/Pi7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dG82zR9wtB1V6BW/5hs+ukW6wRhUYKg3aXH16GFNv+bS+/11JLg5ThErBfliD295zE aXw1aIwOJzYdHkC8rpwfupCuazQ+o9SZoLabT3MRtRHSoLYwYSLKzJvRGWtry1tSO0tM 1Ea/RNvQ8A25O5rP2fURvXl4jJXGpgVCJqpPE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <92ACDD0B-E696-4818-BCAB-0B96EF4D3EA1@zonemobius.com> References: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> <92ACDD0B-E696-4818-BCAB-0B96EF4D3EA1@zonemobius.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:30:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a5b7a0a20a04999ea8ac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 04:30:22 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a5b7a0a20a04999ea8ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah. That would do it, Jeff. I see where you're going, now. It would be more flexible. Heh, back to the old problem of figuring out what I want... FWIW, I'll add this: I suspect I'm like a lot of folks, some of whom have posted here, who have found themselves spending more time programing controllers than they have playing -eventually pack it in, and come back 6 months later having to star= t all over and never feeling they're getting anywhere with it. I think I broke the cycle when I just set up my FC300 with the same functions as the EDP and started working through the EDP manual. Yes, it's not exactly the same, but never having used an EDP, it is a start, at least and it is hard to write a sensible controller for something you don't reall= y understand. That led to setting up and experimenting with presets like InsertMode=3DSustain, InsertMode=3DReverse, InterfaceMode=3D=3DFlip, etc., = on the keyboard. I finally feel like I'm cracking it. It was good to see the EDP.html you posted -very helpful! Thanks as always for the tools and the support! k On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > > Jeff here's a vote for reconsidering this. Having preset selections > > (including InsertMode=3DSustain) bound to keyboard letters is a nice > > way of keeping the midi foot control as simple as possible. I've had > > 5 presets assigned this way for the past month or so and it has really > > opened up Mobius for me. I'd hate to lose it now. > > Fair enough. You haven't lost it completely though. One of the under > utilitized features of Mobius I think has been the MIDI Configuration > (now called a Binding Configuration). > > You don't have to have just one set of bindings between MIDI commands > and Mobius functions, you can have several of them, give them a name, > and activate them with keys, program changes, or any other kind of > Mobius trigger. They're a bit like presets except they only apply to > MIDI assignments. There is one "base" configuration that is > always active. Here you put the thigns that rarely change. Then > there is one optional "overlay" configuration that you can change > dynamically. You could design one overlay with your MIDI switches > assigned to non-sustain fuctions, and another one with some or > all assigned to sustain functions. It might be a bit more work > than InsertMode=3DSustain but it is much more flexible. For example > you're not limited to InsertMode=3DSustain, RecordMode=3DSustain, > and OverdubMode=3DSustain, you can also swap in Sustain versions > of Multiply, Mute, Replace, Reverse, and any other function that > has a SUS variant. > > I'd be interested in seeing your mobius.xml file and exploring > whether this would work for you in practice. > > Jeff > > --=20 Keith Smith -Guitar Keith Smith Trio - www.keithsmith.ca Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai www.nl4tet.ca/ Photography - www.mymountains.ca --20cf3054a5b7a0a20a04999ea8ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah. That would do it, Jeff. I see where you're going, now. It would= be more flexible. Heh, back to the old problem of figuring out what I want= ...

FWIW, I'll add this:
I suspect I'm like a lot of folk= s, some of whom have posted here, who have found themselves spending more t= ime programing controllers than they have playing -eventually pack it in, a= nd come back 6 months later having to start all over and never feeling they= 're getting anywhere with it.
I think I broke the cycle when I just set up my FC300 with the same functio= ns as the EDP and started working through the EDP manual. Yes, it's not= exactly the same, but never having used an EDP, it is a start, at least an= d it is hard to write a sensible controller for something you don't rea= lly understand. That led to setting up and experimenting with presets like = InsertMode=3DSustain, InsertMode=3DReverse, InterfaceMode=3D=3DFlip, etc., = on the keyboard. I finally feel like I'm cracking it. It was good to se= e the EDP.html you posted -very helpful!

Thanks as always for the tools and the support!
k

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com>= wrote:

> On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Keith Smith wrote:
> Jeff here's a vote for reconsidering this. Having preset selection= s
> (including InsertMode=3DSustain) =A0bound to keyboard letters is a nic= e
> way of keeping the midi foot control as simple as possible. I've h= ad
> 5 presets assigned this way for the past month or so and it has really=
> opened up Mobius for me. I'd hate to lose it now.

Fair enough. =A0You haven't lost it completely though. =A0One of = the under
utilitized features of Mobius I think has been the MIDI Configuration
(now called a Binding Configuration).

You don't have to have just one set of bindings between MIDI commands and Mobius functions, you can have several of them, give them a name,
and activate them with keys, program changes, or any other kind of
Mobius trigger. =A0They're a bit like presets except they only apply to=
MIDI assignments. =A0There is one "base" configuration that is always active. =A0Here you put the thigns that rarely change. =A0Then
there is one optional "overlay" configuration that you can change=
dynamically. =A0You could design one overlay with your MIDI switches
assigned to non-sustain fuctions, and another one with some or
all assigned to sustain functions. =A0It might be a bit more work
than InsertMode=3DSustain but it is much more flexible. =A0 For example
you're not limited to InsertMode=3DSustain, RecordMode=3DSustain,
and OverdubMode=3DSustain, you can also swap in Sustain versions
of Multiply, Mute, Replace, Reverse, and any other function that
has a SUS variant.

I'd be interested in seeing your mobius.xml file and exploring
whether this would work for you in practice.

Jeff




--
Keith Smith -Gui= tar

Keith Smith Trio - www.keit= hsmith.ca
Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai www.nl4tet.ca/
Photography - www.mymountains.ca<= br>
--20cf3054a5b7a0a20a04999ea8ac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 06:51:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00C1618345F; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:51:49 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 00:44:19 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Visual Music Live, Duets Plus Jan 16 @Outpost Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Change on lineup Visual Music LIVE January 16m 8 PM -- Duets Plus with Dr. T -- Video Projections Tim Mungenast -Guitar Lou Cohen - Laptop Forbes Graham - trumpet Eric Crawley -- Harpejji and Electronics The musicians will play all duet combinations followed by a quartet. 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Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 09:10:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9883318345F; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 564001456/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.54/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.54 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag4CAD/+LE1YbR82/2dsb2JhbAAMliHLM4VMBI4k X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,312,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="564001456" Message-ID: <4D2D7010.8070408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:10:40 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EchoLoop vs mobius References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> <4D2C8A4E.7030808@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson wrote: > > [andy] > > The way Mobius handles memory is different to the EDP/Echoloop > > at a very fundamental level, so it could never have been an > > accurate emulation... > > Well, I wouldn't say "could never have been" but certainly "would have > been difficult" or even "could have been but why" :) > should have said "would never have been" how's that? (because out of the possibilities available for growing the software the EDP emulator was a very poor option in terms of effort required versus client satisfaction) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 09:20:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54A6018345F; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UHnO8BoIRO3SxVQuVABnvBQqA5Jaj5Y++s3ULxbI3X0=; b=lM6MHCkPPGkeEqfp0+hpp78aXjm2NdqDgkhdqTQihcV3MYAt3+fix5CYtBWrL7a9my +WRdXW+D1whEfwk/dfWWLYHkO5NWMZ9uRcxYNO91b9T7M+60eA81rJdjvkjVKtYuSp4F qdbMUl94ZZSIvUvb6SmloDjC4wpcs8TF6AEiE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=f5AMyPo/GVmoghGRI6FWBjPDgWGhS01UToOr7k4BXu92L8SGHG03ypNJrX7n6RGECG D+HS1QGEHNBdvwZiOwTVbr/qJk3G9c8iljS3AtP45FKkvp/mybkPFoug/zcft/cGSY3u v5ykef+Iy7fZh3c5z56Jj9ohhBoyJz7XR4RY4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:20:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! - presets/parameters From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Dear Jeff, obviously, Keith already replied naming just the requirement I had for using the *Mode=Sustain settings. If I understand this correctly, this would work by doing the following: Say currently I use one button on my MIDI remote which triggers a script called "toggelsus", which if the various mode parameters are set to normal sets them to sustain and vice versa. In the future (and the future is NOW, i.e. 1.43), I'd rather have two different sets of MIDI bindings: in one, the buttons on my floor board are mapped to the normal (latching) versions of the commands. In the other one, the buttons are mapped to their sus counterpart. Then, I'd make a script which, triggered by the button on my MIDI remote, changes between those two sets of MIDI bindings? For me, it seems, it means I have to wait some time until I'm ready to use 1.43: this "switching to sus" is such a central part of my user interface, and it seems to me that it requires at least some work to get that going with the new version...so if we'd have that same behaviour as an option for backwards compatibility, this would be really great! Btw, thanks for the hint regarding the local variables - need to try that as soon as I get home. Strangely, the script you/Simeon posted earlier didn't seem to work with version 1.42, but I might also have missed something here - or is this expected? What a great world for looping people... Yours, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 10:29:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B511518345F; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <8FA44BEDF5A942D4B4B8F2D95044A335@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> < 4D2CE84E.5000400@googlemail.com> <92ACDD0B-E696-4818-BCAB-0B96EF4D3EA1@zonemobius.com> <826371.28436.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <826371.28436.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Finally, Orwell 1984 Remix Album on Vinyl Record. Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:29:38 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CBB243.9D92AEE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:29:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CBB243.9D92AEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ?Great samples Margaret. Congratulations! From: margaret noble=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:02 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Finally, Orwell 1984 Remix Album on Vinyl Record. I have been waiting my whole life to press some wax! My records arrived = today and I wanted to share my joy with the Looper's list!!! :-) http://margaretnoble.bandcamp.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CBB243.9D92AEE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great samples Margaret.  Congratulations!
 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:02 AM
Subject: Finally, Orwell 1984 Remix Album on Vinyl=20 Record.
 
I have=20 been waiting my whole life to press some wax! My records arrived today = and I=20 wanted to share my joy with the Looper's list!!! :-)


 
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CBB243.9D92AEE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 10:51:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 603D318345D; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sPKixJc7ubtZzyITSmNMz5J5McR4AYL7ssbR7+onP8M=; b=Ir+HVZEsN1/kWsb0pUI8Fx+vl3wmfAXrQad2olTmw9eXgV7pcxVvqZTwm9cbdpbSy/ +Py3gU7GemCupLnVrMyQG6ONWKgWqjoA3181PrZixnZ61Wfdnz8+43dkJpfqLHc56nfg rxiSRUmWBS0XLx3yIATaTmvggAxdJ93VG69t0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pGj3sB0Ymavg4M9g/hGCkcO3KiisS0Hx7xziVwSwOH+gwft45FKk0dov4JXsHPyNjn L/Dl4ngZzsfCAEGzYxdee2cUD7dICsU1Brls//gtGcpgC3rGeh2f0NJfUnUOw9OaOkBR xPuIcqduOZkyjZ/84OU4kqbTy8HNuxd5kGaB8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <826371.28436.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> <92ACDD0B-E696-4818-BCAB-0B96EF4D3EA1@zonemobius.com> <826371.28436.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:51:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Finally, Orwell 1984 Remix Album on Vinyl Record. From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b8b50eaa040499a3fc07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:51:35 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b8b50eaa040499a3fc07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Great!!! 2011/1/12 margaret noble > I have been waiting my whole life to press some wax! My records arrived > today and I wanted to share my joy with the Looper's list!!! :-) > > http://margaretnoble.bandcamp.com/ > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --001636c5b8b50eaa040499a3fc07 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great!!!

2011/1/12 margaret noble <margaretnoble= 2000@yahoo.com>
I have been waiting my whole life to press some wax! My records arrived = today and I wanted to share my joy with the Looper's list!!! :-)

= http://margaretnoble.bandcamp.com/






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His heart condition was due to the death of all the m= embers of his family in the tsunami disaster on the 26th December 2004 in S= umatra Indonesia, while on holidays. PLEASE VISIT THE WEBSITE BELOW FOR INF= ORMATION ON THE 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, where my client lost his whol= e family. =A0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,8542,1379875,00.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,,1380645,00.html =A0 My late customer has a deposit of Four Million Five hundred thousand Dollar= s ( US$4.5 Million) left behind in his account with our bank, with no next = of kin to claim the said funds. =A0 The bank will soon declare his deposit by the end of January 2011 unservice= able and lodge the money into a suspense account and nobody knows what will= happen to the fund again . =A0 As his accounting officer and financial adviser in charge of this accounts,= I can comfortable present you to the Bank as the next of kin to the owner = of the funds and our bank have no right to deny the application.This is why= I have contacted you to help me in get the funds transferred to your count= ry, and also help me buy a houses in your country. With my position here ,I= will introduce you as a distant relative to the late depositor of the fund= s, then process all paper work and have the funds transferred to your count= ry for investment between you and me. =A0 =A0 I WILL SEND RELEVANT DOCUMENTS TO YOU, BEFORE I START ANY PAPER WORK IN YOU= R NAMES.I WILL TELL YOU MORE AS SOON AS I GET=20 YOUR RESPONSE, =A0 PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU MUST KEEP THIS AS A SECRET BETWEEN YOU AND ME , BUT I = NEED YOU TO ASSURE ME ALSO THAT YOU WILL NOT RUN AWAY WITH THE FUNDS WHEN I= T IS TRANSFERRED TO YOUR ACCOUNT IN YOUR HOME COUNTRY. =A0 Patrick Paign =A0 --0-1375746028-1294832520=:86836 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings from BURKINA FASO:
 
Let= me start by introduce myself,I am Mr.Sayidi Omar,BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER= (Bank of Africa) Burkina faso.I am writting you this letter based on the l= atest development at our bank which I will like to bring to your personal e= dification.($12,250million transfer claims).This is a legitimate transactio= n and I agree to offer you 30% of this money as my foreign partner after co= nfirmation of the fund in your bank account,If you are interested get back = to me.
 
Yours faithful,
Mr.Sayidi Omar.
 
Good day ,
 
I GOT YOUR CONTACT VIA YOUR COUNTRY CH= AMBER OF COMMERCE AND I WANT TO TRUST YOU  WITH HOPE THAT YOU WILL NOT= LET ME DOWN.
 
I am Patrick Paign, a BANKER and an account officer to a Hadi = Sunarno - deceased customer of our bank,who died as a result of a heart-rel= ated condition on March 12th 2006. His heart condition was due to the death= of all the members of his family in the tsunami disaster on the 26th Decem= ber 2004 in Sumatra Indonesia, while on holidays. PLEASE VISIT THE WEBSITE = BELOW FOR INFORMATION ON THE 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, where my client lost his whole family.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_= Indian_Ocean_earthquake
http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,8542,1379875,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,,138= 0645,00.html
 
My late customer has a deposit of Four Million Five hundred th= ousand Dollars ( US$4.5 Million) left behind in his account with our bank, = with no next of kin to claim the said funds.
 
The bank will soon declare his deposit by the end of January 2= 011 unserviceable and lodge the money into a suspense accou= nt and nobody knows what will happen to = the fund again .
 
As his accounting officer and financial adviser in charge of t= his accounts, I can comfortable present you to the Bank as the next of kin = to the owner of the funds and our bank have no right to deny the applicatio= n.This is why I have contacted you to help me in get the funds transferred = to your country, and also help me buy a houses in your country. With my pos= ition here ,I will introduce you as a distant relative to the late deposito= r of the funds, then process all paper work and have the funds transferred = to your country for investment between you and me.
 
 
I WILL SEND RELEVANT DOCUMENTS TO YOU, BEFORE I START ANY PAPE= R WORK IN YOUR NAMES.I WILL TELL YOU MORE AS SOON AS I GET
YOUR RESPONSE,
 
PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU MUST KEEP THI= S AS A SECRET BETWEEN YOU AND ME , BUT I NEED YOU TO ASSURE ME ALSO THAT YO= U WILL NOT RUN AWAY WITH THE FUNDS WHEN IT IS TRANSFERRED = TO YOUR ACCOUNT IN YOUR HOME COUNTRY.

 
Patrick Paign
 
--0-1375746028-1294832520=:86836-- From office---dsk0543@att.net Wed Jan 12 13:23:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from nm23-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm23-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.225]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 89E60183453 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.63] by nm23.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2011 13:23:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.20] by tm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2011 13:23:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2011 13:23:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 405330.78981.bm@omp1020.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 63837 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2011 13:23:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1294838612; bh=crKqaFw3EPTivJ3+aW/GRBVvDtpX0iXYGsnih5xFkfw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=21ht8dX0OKYKKzyM6cebYIDbTunfse6pK56G90DCBtp5qU22um/nlEEQI6en5Bn/EZuXG+6ybRR4yM3OLgMb+4DYj+iosk96toceMqwohouSZtJjzi+J59xTx8hPHCR0rXrEC1tuUDQh/wSMNBM3Wz9j+OjKleR8VN/+Pjo04bo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PxpUDERDZ4OO8qymXRGmnv6s6IYMJ7MxoobQLW/38dgpHt7mcuDm2CD/2Jcq2WXjwyIstpp+ldItBUuxfypSiMBD0n6Q8lH3K9u3k5XS50jH+xQsZm7gUp/y8XJPVX3WPQvqvnkT1ocyjCvhVZMicTabOjeJ5xn6onQWBB2ID68=; Message-ID: <117061.62852.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .SUr6i0VM1nOm80NihYV.g6oQK0LJKZFfRKBzA0fLD4M0yM 8JuWUJD8vlwB4TnkBDX00aWd5pmAe2nBL2oCqn18YJAbJ6U6_dlZkBVu6zyp X8DHXtTH98bUtYZ7lXiPMj6eihyez7fkUpoUgyASYP079UfuqJ6MDRB59Nto B1bjSN5IfKPfsjXlHU20pbNNoqGZfUY_yVif3cWFtxRa4ldtw6YY0AYXeflI YSRxOg1z7g.KwAgxUbJZUpTqMdIi9ZNIDzYmF9YIgy5MFd5kLH8iDoPnTaFq yW2YCJtujlDZqEc3b9G5g89JMChSzLO_2Bqcs9OZqRRG9fHcHHnTcvlq1Lep zYnoJq9WtTlHufekPxLx6HpddHrCV.UoXLnEoUzjG1N1vYbAsocOu_IGREZa .OKxayuBYBLqNJhCqhk2a7gb.whxGvZvv0U3boBZfrJ_.GyBIK69O4Pu4j_V jmmIAtgiuhYxfOcmCpuQd9rwfwWYwN80UXS3bdqSUYEdIT6.T6DPObrisfqX I5Ns6qmBEnqSUNIQg6moagkX6gP2oJi4vzpKdseF8WrNbQAiGa7p8HeJj3nf LwsBW9AjMSNhOc4STCVetxnOK_b_.0b3FS8Gf70NsC0SRS8ef892nf2v_OFv g5b9jVqgklDG8IyMpGFlaoPm9Heg78n7awrxPnrWuMo6b9pOuz9gOcJ_Hp9N kn1q05RsOrBPl.vDCPRClRfolGRmzIU9Ih.6pHb3jO8kHGbL4KvRv2gzVsoH U4E6QYhQy.gsz445TIs_aS8pOY8YCIdgbv4vR3saDpH.y99s4UK0fsdVuwTb jY1z3LIxkaAn92cC31g-- Received: from [41.58.39.97] by web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 05:23:32 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 05:23:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Mr.Jerry Howard." Reply-To: mr.jerryhoward20011@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Ref : ABY/NRI-ACCT/7878256589/04 To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1059030424-1294838612=:62852" --0-1059030424-1294838612=:62852 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ref : ABY/NRI-ACCT/7878256589/04 My Name is Mr.Jerry Howard. I am the auditor and head of computing department of Royal Bank of Scotland Liverpool Branch here in United Kingdom . There is an account opened in this bank in 2003 and since my inception into office on 4th of january 2011 ,I then found this account and when I investigated deeply by contacting the assigned next of kin I also found that the next of kin to this account was an American who lived in London for over 63Yrs and nobody has operated on this account again after 2004.I took the courage to look for a reliable and honest person who will be capable for this important transaction. In order to transfer out$100,000,000 (One Hundred Million U.S Dollars) After going through some old files, I discovered that if I do not Remit this money out urgently,it will be forfeited for nothing and the Royal-bank of Scotland management might divert the funds to their own accounts.Please respond immediately I will use my position and influence to effect the legal approval and onward transfer of this fund into your account with appropriate clearance from foreign payment department.You will stand to get 40% while 60% will be for me.Kindly quote the reference(acct) numbers above when responding to this mail. I will fill you in with further details upon your reply on this email address (mr.jerryhoward20011@yahoo.co.uk) .You can call me directly on this private telephone number so that we can discuss more on how to transfer this funds to your designated account in your country . Tel : + 44 752 407 1432 Mr.Jerry Howard --0-1059030424-1294838612=:62852 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Ref : ABY/NRI-ACCT/7878256589/04

My Name is Mr.Jerry Howard.

I am the auditor and head of computing department of Royal Bank of
Scotland Liverpool Branch here in United Kingdom .

There is an account opened in this bank in 2003 and since my inception
into office on 4th of january 2011 ,I then found this account and when I
investigated deeply by contacting the assigned next of kin I also found that the next of kin to this account was an American who lived in London for over 63Yrs and nobody has operated on this account again after 2004.I took the courage to look for a reliable and honest person who will be capable for this important transaction. In order to transfer out$100,000,000 (One Hundred Million U.S Dollars)

After going through some old files, I discovered that if I do not Remit this money out urgently,it will be forfeited for nothing and the Royal-bank of Scotland management might divert the funds to their own accounts.Please respond immediately I will use my position and influence to effect the legal approval and onward transfer of this fund into your account with appropriate clearance from foreign payment department.You will stand to get 40% while 60% will be for me.Kindly quote the reference(acct) numbers above when responding to this mail. I will fill you in with further details upon your reply on this email address (mr.jerryhoward20011@yahoo.co.uk) .You can call me directly on this private telephone number so that we can discuss more on how to transfer this funds to your designated account in your country .
Tel : + 44 752 407 1432

Mr.Jerry Howard
--0-1059030424-1294838612=:62852-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 13:26:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44D2518345E; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iRE5Lhj93sD5t4Mr0TgOK/x9gNtpDLJII7P4l5ksNTU=; b=Y0rCywbXtP+QsegPw7D/3WLv7rf2kMz9FIy7qWqBZJQ+YW1iMr2dItDkUQsRkLXZZM oJ3OV5mV59y/Hbi+szMB3k2AHU0Ibb9EUyOd0MT3wYWC6i7IYNXLO/c31f3CWtFazvpV 03QgJeKBsdM81HDtmVKZSxvj2FMee1nEwHfJ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EnxRxeh/oexV/69AHbRUw18O6Qi+sgEgxAoY4+gh8ixuUvr7/3PB7OcmPz/V+9y21d xNOSmyph4uUPE/AnHHzgisToRkn1qxbTvwNDOl8FyUIMESEtQgbO9j62/hSCrNKFrNAX His7wLW46wym9Tf8hA+ct6c39irRq1gODd+do= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 07:26:37 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! - presets/parameters From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb6f29469420499a62654 Resent-Message-ID: <8ZQWtC.A.0KG.RwaLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:26:41 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb6f29469420499a62654 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > In the future (and the future is NOW, i.e. 1.43), I'd rather have two > different sets of MIDI bindings: in one, the buttons on my floor board > are mapped to the normal (latching) versions of the commands. In the > other one, the buttons are mapped to their sus counterpart. > Then, I'd make a script which, triggered by the button on my MIDI > remote, changes between those two sets of MIDI bindings? Yes. > Btw, thanks for the hint regarding the local variables - need to try > that as soon as I get home. Strangely, the script you/Simeon posted > earlier didn't seem to work with version 1.42, but I might also have > missed something here - or is this expected? Maybe. So much changed between 1.42 and 1.43, there could have been something subtle related to script timing. What does it do under 1.42? Jeff --0015175cb6f29469420499a62654 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> In the future (and the future is NOW, i.e. 1.43), I'd rather = have two
> different sets of MIDI bindings: in one, the button= s on my floor board
> are mapped to the normal (latching) vers= ions of the commands. In the
> other one, the buttons are mapped to their sus counterpart.
=
> Then, I'd make a script which, triggered by the button on my = MIDI
> remote, changes between those two sets of MIDI bindings= ?

Yes.

> Btw, thanks for the = hint regarding the local variables - need to try
> that as soo= n as I get home. Strangely, the script you/Simeon posted
> ear= lier didn't seem to work with version 1.42, but I might also have
> missed something here - or is this expected?

=
Maybe. =A0So much changed between 1.42 and 1.43, there could have been= =A0
something subtle related to script timing. =A0What does it do= under 1.42?

Jeff

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Andy

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First and formost,I have to introduce= myself to you.I am (Wahib Dicko )The Director incharge of Auditing section= of Bank of Africa (BOA) in Ouagadougou,Burkina Faso .I need your urgent bu= siness assistance in transferring an abandoned sum of ($9 Million) dollars = left by a deceased customer of my bank immediately to your account.

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Telephone; +226 79 161 281 .
Mr Wahib Dicko.=

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First and formost,I have to introduce= myself to you.I am (Wahib Dicko )The Director incharge of Auditing section= of Bank of Africa (BOA) in Ouagadougou,Burkina Faso .I need your urgent bu= siness assistance in transferring an abandoned sum of ($9 Million) dollars = left by a deceased customer of my bank immediately to your account.

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=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A   --0-2138158636-1294844657=:41010-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 15:42:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D96D618345D; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+scQKoSmGZCln2GhLtLEZuc9MEc4cxWWkg8i3lYThtc=; b=UHa/MEcHQ68P00g70v66LgR25djck1VoWppc4WG9OhppFV+JCY/Hl1N7vOGMdjlt8S TJKnvTlsOxAZAPPR+LmrdTosapEMtS8Vx+Kz7BeOEXy3vhgY80dYgZcNjr19v20SkfTi 3dNFBr8HfkykvAOD+pcXayPern5bi2x0wupSE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bsQoMcX1aFunt6TR2h/nEziejy0HxZK7Q5yrPGliQ4m/xlFwM9TYdGjeHDAXv3tRuc eoSNt7DfuoN3SGzcHFg86qrDrhGzIh9GlDR+0SfPvhwDBDWsKuRqy5nUmXekbB0zgHOC hlxKT4vplr7UzSb5YSGH78D8e4knTBMVagz8Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:41:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! - presets/parameters From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30433f16a0cfe80499a80a29 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:42:03 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30433f16a0cfe80499a80a29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Jeff & Rainer, I installed 1.43 last night. Nice job, Jeff! It's the smoothest update I've seen. It does occur to me, as Rainer mentioned backwards compatibility that if one could optionally attach a binding configuration to a preset (in the preset dialog), it might be helpful at least until the user starts to get a grip on scripting. Cheers, k > --20cf30433f16a0cfe80499a80a29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jeff & Rainer,
I installed 1.43 last night. Nice job, Jeff! It= 9;s the smoothest update I've seen.
It does occur to me, as Rainer m= entioned backwards compatibility that if one could optionally attach a bind= ing configuration to a preset (in the preset dialog), it might be helpful a= t least until the user starts to get a grip on scripting.
Cheers,
k


--20cf30433f16a0cfe80499a80a29-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 15:46:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E737518345F; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qk5Fq1/VpkCBANpPoO7JPgToDOXVnGCux9bkbP0J59Y=; b=U1cCyXbDueceZks9uwblq8pTBybJ4yTsYBxB7RsCWNOBGh3rk4Qlo5YDMroHvLiES8 WSjtoL1iTGWf3HKgLRyTHUe1AXrP4It8tINe0N21E8tDz23nuKVqOb3pG24ddoD87g5N PG4JrMoBc2A7wXSq3gCxTJELGZV7ahYnWP3gk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a42WLDqKXqaiVUEgoLmVaKYGgvJN2DpFYAQBk9rSK1OxaQ4UKoGZZCHlsstfwmFFcj o408k1c6tVfu2AcA89lColJHEW9mKv7eUmFWX4B49JT+rF1jQdZIklg6sXOYnUivdpFe oFTYQ/kwDUkMi3e9RvNoUcA0IfcWr5HOh6Qa0= Message-ID: <4D2DCCCC.5060600@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:46:20 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Mobius Version 1.43 changes (was Re: another mobius question - a new one! - presets/parameters) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Dear Jeff, in context of the discussion of changes from Möbius version 1.42 to 1.43, I have very mixed feelings about how these changes were implemented. First of all, a lot of users want (or need) forward compatibility. On the other hand, innovating a product (like software) sometimes requires to leave that behind. Often, manufacturers try to at least reflect that with the version numbers. So, my question is this: when you do changes (as in 1.43) which will result in a lot of stuff not working anymore (the "sus modes" we've discussed are but one example, another one is that for some reason, my track copy script no longer works, possibly because the behaviour of copy has changed?) - why not make a new major release, reflected in a version number like 2.0? That way, it is easily recognizable that while an update from e.g. 1.41 to 1.42 can be done by anyone without fear of consequences, an update from 1.42 to 2.00 may not. About the other discussions: 1) just tested the "auto reverse" script with the scope of the variable being track instead of global - great! 2) strangely, on 1.42, your adapted script (with the wait last statements) behaved exactly the same as my original version without those adaptions - well, I think exactly, because it was "deterministic chaos" ;). As I need to go back to 1.42 for the short term, I could try that again... Yours, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 16:05:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0664818345D; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vwAIdiQ5Va83hIinvB2t/AslHc2n/Hnexr1LC+zAIB4=; b=Qw03jdUf4gqrSzfHWAep8W8Xcv/Ex/58dio/uxWC09N9ZChojW7OF68B7d7zeGLkwa PON2pd1yZUanDEs2V8gaHoSSw2lywOVqWiUr9pX229Njyb5Xqo8bCK53Ns+9j25rOugf jBzCom1wPfC6cBuZWtaE+JLCxjdMT1/uwyI7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DoUEPoJO/C+DGoI7ErhbBVBUCdD+Q+GReVkfhCqZTYfJAiaC3ngQ+peGqcJuiiDMJo uqoRU9CfvqFXetbW9aFqlLhE8t4ObY6V7jJzEO85EenBfhyEvgM3EtLRso9h/Vf+XzzM zWPMS1VBm6FOeiWFo/w9C3j/l0sBYTp1SwyiA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2DCCCC.5060600@googlemail.com> References: <4D2DCCCC.5060600@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:05:35 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Version 1.43 changes (was Re: another mobius question - a new one! - presets/parameters) From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b83c00f711b0499a85fc7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:05:37 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b83c00f711b0499a85fc7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > First of all, a lot of users want (or need) forward compatibility. I understand. I did try to provide forward compatibility for most things. The track copy problem you are having is likely to be the same upgrade bug that Simeon had. The parameter name and values have changed, the parameter name was being upgraded but the values weren't I'm fixing that. InsertMode I didn't bother upgrading because I honestly thought no one used it. What I forgot about was InsertMode=Sustain, which is marginally useful. I'll consider putting something like that back, but it will probably be something like "Sustain Functions" with a multi-valued list of the sustainable function names. I have no intention of putting back things like InsertMode=Replace though. If you want to change the meaning of a button, that's what Binding Configurations are for. > 2) strangely, on 1.42, your adapted script (with the wait last statements) > behaved exactly the same as my original version without those adaptions Thanks, I'll resurrect a version of 1.42 and try it. Jeff --0016363b83c00f711b0499a85fc7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> First of all, a lot of users want (or need) forwar= d compatibility.

I understand. =A0I did try to pro= vide forward compatibility for most
things. =A0The track copy pro= blem you are having is likely to be the
same upgrade bug that Simeon had. =A0The parameter name and values hav= e
changed, the parameter name was being upgraded but the values w= eren't
I'm fixing that.

InsertMo= de I didn't bother upgrading because I honestly thought no one
used it. =A0What I forgot about was InsertMode=3DSustain, which is
marginally useful. =A0I'll consider putting something like that = back,
but it will probably be something like "Sustain Functi= ons" with a
multi-valued list of the sustainable function names. =A0I have no
intention of putting back things like InsertMode=3DReplace though. = =A0If
you want to change the meaning of a button, that's what= Binding
Configurations are for.

> 2) strangely, on= 1.42, your adapted script (with the wait last statements)
> b= ehaved exactly the same as my original version without those adaptions

Thanks, I'll resurrect a version of 1.42 and try it= .

Jeff

--0016363b83c00f711b0499a85fc7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 16:08:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA8D418345D; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294848493; bh=qRKotES12Ya4D0KRbnS8YaczTEi5gJTQqQQ0GbP3lxI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5UWD3Hi/ZdlGaQslcdr58zKhtVkQUX7as9T7OpsUfhllvRsqiHGHpfHGsckCgq18Lu1QLgjb9tdn6dZ7xnajQEw9fGTaNlsFVLmeS4CdWxr+s0it80w8b1r4IbmuMFlrJLV+Qdx6aCjmLnrPGd/SbOTzw+AETp/95C6J9IFrDb4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=U6Q3jwQrj5Mbh27GzajriimV8C9dUNGj8WATWkZJx+wH0u6JpQYRg8/jBfDodh7drhV/xqGxAv8rwWRQTXErlcQnPciF2Bvio1Km7mRbTWo0Ha9gzf4HIEoJ+0VnlfRXUYVrujXFzsSGoGiQ57DYFUCBsAhrzLFRQE79R+5n/w4=; Message-ID: <108422.85700.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KcR9.VkVM1kAQIFQHxVILLNjGisQGQWuHQAwZlnOdAGcMtj zQQ9grBK9HIrINUghHvNGINzaIodUusealPla4_9QBWQGlNsvsAXE550l5yC jvu.coH1cw09GOnXhS180W88ddE0tv0X0eDiWkZe174BSpF3I7E5oPGjE09R NUovK9ivDSlzlt_HdLqDTka0N5rwUZ4amkXzndZFA_LXyXXZo5HzjZsXqqtL sde35IbH9vZqCfQFb5TAjOcWE41uGLN3d51gPTUNaQzTuXs6hpfUqaW7sUe7 EDWOur6gEwVmJ_cHleZPAdypbbkt6cUgr6qfdMEmDG9KWk91M X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> <92ACDD0B-E696-4818-BCAB-0B96EF4D3EA1@zonemobius.com> <826371.28436.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:08:13 -0800 (PST) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Finally, Orwell 1984 Remix Album on Vinyl Record. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-740805820-1294848493=:85700" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:08:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-740805820-1294848493=:85700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thank you! Margaret Noble Sound Artist http://margaretnoble.net ________________________________ From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 2:51:34 AM Subject: Re: Finally, Orwell 1984 Remix Album on Vinyl Record. Great!!! 2011/1/12 margaret noble I have been waiting my whole life to press some wax! My records arrived today and I wanted to share my joy with the Looper's list!!! :-) > > >http://margaretnoble.bandcamp.com/ > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0-740805820-1294848493=:85700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
thank you!
 


Margaret Noble
Sound Artist
http://margaretnoble.net
 




From: Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 2:51:34 AM
Subject: Re: Finally, Orwell 1984 Remix Album on Vinyl Record.

Great!!!

2011/1/12 margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com>
I have been waiting my whole life to press some wax! My records arrived today and I wanted to share my joy with the Looper's list!!! :-)






--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
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--0-740805820-1294848493=:85700-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 16:09:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BC5E183474; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yQuLYhenYNFsHsApG8PIaYt56QTN3PRrP4q1ZznPxM8=; b=UGSQjcJ70X7u+PtSR1p/gCFD5wVKE+qsHmdrT6UaGgUoI//pPRigKaXTz+ZV9gEMxQ atx4XdFY+E9JwcW9fD13yXTCtfVUs9nGOuRtqIn9cu6OS/OpzS8J9gtS5VjysQNjTlrv JlMtXsB5Z5n5edU/Zqx3uC4VAFyuOox0zPZnI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gYWFcwESvXB5+MXsSYvG6AnFYJ8RaQ+rr8fqnp12VoIn2Ea+Ckg8PZBCVqtHaxGLLh pqXAsnsSuPrWyRcNWOUwUQZBTt6+qKInJS1TE6cQMssnXd2PKo7T03V7v7VC6ayRV0co BccOIzzpPC9pDLb0XZ4Tac6CzXekAG90suqwo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2DCCCC.5060600@googlemail.com> References: <4D2DCCCC.5060600@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:09:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Version 1.43 changes (was Re: another mobius question - a new one! - presets/parameters) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:09:49 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > for some reason, my track copy script no longer works I just happen to recently having bounced into that. When a script line in 1.42 goes "set trackcopy sound" you have to update that script for 1.43 by changing that line into "set emptytrackaction copy" For me 1.42 works still excellent, but I will upgrade at some point. As a reminder to my future self I have thrown in a comment line note going: "# set emptytrackaction copy if version 1.43" ...just so I will remember to change the script when that day comes. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From nationalwinninglotto2011@arcor.de Wed Jan 12 16:21:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.46]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE57518345A for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.18]) by mx.arcor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221C710BFFD; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:21:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-15.arcor-online.net (mail-in-15.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.55]) by mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079C5157761; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:21:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail19.arcor-online.net (webmail19.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.77]) by mail-in-15.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF4E1ABBE8; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:21:12 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-15.arcor-online.net ABF4E1ABBE8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1294849272; bh=RcxDufJprXVtbZw/ihUU/ZkwwSr30XxhpdG9T/1ibWI=; h=Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lHP9VEI25uFLH1RNuciJ+F+TvfOln0YsgXWVtsOXehuKZIFl92gbEvvosaCZ4s+oj MSXIOwZCs3Vr3pvIwosdutMvorx6thNoJvEDjraRgTzmzkNcikNbfgwgyRHdZnj1XO JrD1z13vMTUfMazPFLjTtXtVTkR5ciAlbC7DOLes= Received: from [217.20.240.19] by webmail19.arcor-online.net (151.189.8.77) with HTTP (Arcor Webmail); Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:21:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:21:12 +0100 (CET) From: Sascha Wolf To: rferro@pittstate.edu Message-ID: <472622665.19370.1294849272686.JavaMail.ngmail@webmail19.arcor-online.net> Subject: Dear friend MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ngMessageSubType: MessageSubType_MAIL X-WebmailclientIP: 10.11.20.220, 217.20.240.19 Dear friend Greetings in the name of God,Pls let this not sound strange to you. i prayed and got your email id from your countrys guestbook which i have been with my late huband and liked to visit once more if God will in his infinite mercies. 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Waiting for your reply Yours in Christ, Mrs. Joy Mary Email.joymary_000@yahoo.cn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 16:25:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E465B183478; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ej9rEy/wDv7Vr3gRhTDYt1rRz1mch56bujWMJ0L0fQo=; b=jMJndEFXxDCvRRljr8f5uBclNn3FU0/Dc7veRTDKOGqNfiorVh4u2X4GbzQ5Cv4Maa dfuhm/A8pNwhPZN9JOvF3AbMikZ05+ykBCNUumhkWEr4UUjcrt7AM0RmQsg+0PyG+dfg zCJMWLUjaTH7lwBkTHFy/Nvr1OCKXFAAhMrzQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=u7SDRskPqEX2s+xu2GPlfTuUcJRM8ChOJVB+kn8hcgj3Z/UiX/yDUg8/Z+wzWufJVQ +Bl2ACbZxKQ57KmdLS+hlPlBurrvqHBPiJ4xN+02sbG15Zl+jh+iqmfBZcAsFNK7jiSu CDygpJKeeEiyomPq8+JiEYDVKWFOjFRynYufk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <826371.28436.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <513110AD-83D6-4C50-8897-66EB3BFBBA50@zonemobius.com> <7A39515D-C2CD-427E-B54F-006D246D873C@zonemobius.com> <4D278B14.5060007@googlemail.com> <4D2CCE40.5000700@googlemail.com> <92ACDD0B-E696-4818-BCAB-0B96EF4D3EA1@zonemobius.com> <826371.28436.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:25:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Finally, Orwell 1984 Remix Album on Vinyl Record. From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2b7ea6e670499a8a5b7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:25:25 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2b7ea6e670499a8a5b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Margaret congrats on this release and vinyl no less, amazing commitment in these times. I particularly liked the spoken word times, dark, but great textures. Best in 11, jim On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:02 PM, margaret noble < margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > I have been waiting my whole life to press some wax! My records arrived > today and I wanted to share my joy with the Looper's list!!! :-) > > http://margaretnoble.bandcamp.com/ > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a2b7ea6e670499a8a5b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Margaret congrats on this release and vinyl no less, amazing commitment in = these times.=A0 I particularly liked the spoken=A0 word times, dark, but gr= eat textures.=A0 Best in 11,

jim

O= n Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:02 PM, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com&g= t; wrote:
I have been = waiting my whole life to press some wax! My records arrived today and I wan= ted to share my joy with the Looper's list!!! :-)
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From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a2b7ea6e670499a8a5b7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 16:28:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A191183482; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y1yqK4jqFbwEHvxXILMbaWNEoqNb28AMITYrG+QSLEI=; b=IYvEacgZW4prXTWU6pgarC3V9EBV9FCfZXzfxNOJcc6M0LxTgfvFc06Vnic+ueFkRu k5ES8VOxXj57Nj1x713po/emun7RtelwPI+Vq4ESsXIKRDuo78IFCOyUfAdERIHwPVBi g56c+k6QebpxVzrI5GjWCS7mtM1kZ1Gx+427k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XfV7ZklfgrkyBJ8hAy9rrKBZFpTKj14dgNj5ZkD1VGufQBvdOMe5DQPGl6UkuWVTav AMYZefaDYfXiCXLhdmxGG2BAiPv5RP6KTa1exnK5PpWTw6Eair2/FNTt2nh8yy8qLald ViAkqdhDV5HLSgaY4k5wUk6jA557D7faNmePU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:28:00 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! - presets/parameters From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb82039fbdb0499a8af38 Resent-Message-ID: <3JM39B.A.aJE.SadLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:28:02 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb82039fbdb0499a8af38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 FWIW, You don't have to use scripts to change binding configurations, you can select them with any MIDI command just like presets. Backwards compatibility is important to me to a degree. But I drew the line on a lot of EDPisms that are hard to explain and simply aren't necessary, like most of the Interface Modes. Other than using InterfaceMode=Expert to enable secondary feedback which is now enabled explicitly with the Enable Secondary Feedback preset parameter, I'll bet I can count on one hand the number of people that have actually used Interface Mode, and I will write them scripts if they still need InterfaceMode=Flip. Looking through my notes, I think the only old parameters that are not being automatically upgraded in some way are Interface Mode, Insert Mode, Record Mode, and Overdub Mode. We have found some bugs upgrading other parameters and those are being fixed. This is why I warned everyone in the release notes not to upgrade unless you had some time to spend verifying that your scripts still worked. I suppose I could rename the next one 2.0 to make this clearer. Jeff On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Keith Smith wrote: > Hi Jeff & Rainer, > I installed 1.43 last night. Nice job, Jeff! It's the smoothest update I've > seen. > It does occur to me, as Rainer mentioned backwards compatibility that if > one could optionally attach a binding configuration to a preset (in the > preset dialog), it might be helpful at least until the user starts to get a > grip on scripting. > Cheers, > k > > >> --0015175cb82039fbdb0499a8af38 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FWIW, You don't have to use scripts to change binding configuratio= ns, you can select them
with any MIDI command just like presets.<= /div>

Backwards compatibility is important to me to a de= gree. =A0But I drew the line on a lot
of EDPisms that are hard to explain and simply aren't necessary, l= ike
most of the Interface Modes. =A0Other than using InterfaceMod= e=3DExpert to
enable secondary feedback which is now enabled expl= icitly with the
Enable Secondary Feedback preset parameter, I'll bet I can count o= n one
hand the number of people that have actually used Interface= Mode, and I
will write them scripts if they still need Interface= Mode=3DFlip.

Looking through my notes, I think the only old paramete= rs that are not being
automatically upgraded in some way are Inte= rface Mode, Insert Mode,=A0
Record Mode, and Overdub Mode. =A0

We have found some bugs upgrading other parameters and = those are being fixed.
This is why I warned everyone in the relea= se notes not to upgrade unless you
had some time to spend verifyi= ng that your scripts still =A0worked. =A0I suppose
I could rename the next one 2.0 to make this clearer.

Jeff


On Wed, Ja= n 12, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jeff & Rainer,
I installed 1.43 l= ast night. Nice job, Jeff! It's the smoothest update I've seen.
It does occur to me, as Rainer mentioned backwards compatibility that if on= e could optionally attach a binding configuration to a preset (in the prese= t dialog), it might be helpful at least until the user starts to get a grip= on scripting.
Cheers,
k



--0015175cb82039fbdb0499a8af38-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 16:47:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C62ED18348F; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YtX/Li1YMvGO/sxFuH+zS8osIwzE/nxtk5hDXjultIY=; b=jPmyquylddrBHwES3RL0DYraKCnjoT9g3CiE/Q45xPCxOK5oVMTXMkWo7vb/h1e3TP 9zQcl7tKzDfXGF5Wt6/md74wPiHFudh81wKysiYe9uobVbxV5BzAOIG8dh8R8N2QTFjt 7VLfabb00V62jOOOL0BLjJxNlyTxQyXXLdOTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ej6KVQXZw1vU+TJtc82Ka11fMyjc1dEezcOI/HwHD1hFUIyCP7ztYN8AYPTq9Y1KUm olSCdug5D7gs/fp128ERSsgC5MZ3UnLkZaO96x00/Nge1RrDWiJ4a11CGK3xtKknn61V 4gjAa1h+aWSgBC1+njmrPykKYbs2JUeOz4GtA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:47:29 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! - presets/parameters From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054acafeb9ec00499a8f48e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:47:31 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054acafeb9ec00499a8f48e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jeff. Any chance you could add "Binding Config" to the Visible Parameters part of the the Display Components? k On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Jeff Larson wro= te: > FWIW, You don't have to use scripts to change binding configurations, you > can select them > with any MIDI command just like presets. > > Backwards compatibility is important to me to a degree. But I drew the > line on a lot > of EDPisms that are hard to explain and simply aren't necessary, like > most of the Interface Modes. Other than using InterfaceMode=3DExpert to > enable secondary feedback which is now enabled explicitly with the > Enable Secondary Feedback preset parameter, I'll bet I can count on one > hand the number of people that have actually used Interface Mode, and I > will write them scripts if they still need InterfaceMode=3DFlip. > > Looking through my notes, I think the only old parameters that are not > being > automatically upgraded in some way are Interface Mode, Insert Mode, > Record Mode, and Overdub Mode. > > We have found some bugs upgrading other parameters and those are being > fixed. > This is why I warned everyone in the release notes not to upgrade unless > you > had some time to spend verifying that your scripts still worked. I > suppose > I could rename the next one 2.0 to make this clearer. > > Jeff > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Keith Smith wrote: > >> Hi Jeff & Rainer, >> I installed 1.43 last night. Nice job, Jeff! It's the smoothest update >> I've seen. >> It does occur to me, as Rainer mentioned backwards compatibility that if >> one could optionally attach a binding configuration to a preset (in the >> preset dialog), it might be helpful at least until the user starts to ge= t a >> grip on scripting. >> Cheers, >> k >> >> >>> > --=20 Keith Smith -Guitar Keith Smith Trio - www.keithsmith.ca Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai www.nl4tet.ca/ Photography - www.mymountains.ca --20cf3054acafeb9ec00499a8f48e Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jeff.
Any chance you could add "Binding Config" to the = Visible Parameters part of the the Display Components?
k

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailp= oint.com> wrote:
FWIW, You do= n't have to use scripts to change binding configurations, you can selec= t them
with any MIDI command just like presets.

Back= wards compatibility is important to me to a degree. =A0But I drew the line = on a lot
of EDPisms that are hard to explain and simply aren't necessary, l= ike
most of the Interface Modes. =A0Other than using InterfaceMod= e=3DExpert to
enable secondary feedback which is now enabled expl= icitly with the
Enable Secondary Feedback preset parameter, I'll bet I can count o= n one
hand the number of people that have actually used Interface= Mode, and I
will write them scripts if they still need Interface= Mode=3DFlip.

Looking through my notes, I think the only old paramete= rs that are not being
automatically upgraded in some way are Inte= rface Mode, Insert Mode,=A0
Record Mode, and Overdub Mode. =A0

We have found some bugs upgrading other parameters and = those are being fixed.
This is why I warned everyone in the relea= se notes not to upgrade unless you
had some time to spend verifyi= ng that your scripts still =A0worked. =A0I suppose
I could rename the next one 2.0 to make this clearer.

Jeff


On Wed, Jan 12, 2011= at 9:41 AM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jeff & Rai= ner,
I installed 1.43 last night. Nice job, Jeff! It's the smoothest= update I've seen.
It does occur to me, as Rainer mentioned backwards compatibility that if on= e could optionally attach a binding configuration to a preset (in the prese= t dialog), it might be helpful at least until the user starts to get a grip= on scripting.
Cheers,
k






--
Keith Smith= -Guitar

Keith Smith Trio - www= .keithsmith.ca
Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai www.nl4tet.ca/
Photography - www.mymountains.ca<= br>
--20cf3054acafeb9ec00499a8f48e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 16:52:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0DA718347E; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ilELO48C9LLtXMoPMu/dRQXxXiX572f1uAf6j3eC+0I=; b=aKKCwzY5IiFjMxTXSCTuJ/xyE8ybAvZLFA7ft2k2Z6o1NXZXYet1ZCmEmpAOQKDZI2 y9Ji4GFLhIKPjg7op73NAayHxD3IciX7uBbE4RfeJYRNquA5sawK4ORswuNxhKW4i3vv CDc0F3sqOil6sfwe+WSCTuq1CP3R1TeJEBIbw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VSlnyWW/BeJGKnaeRTNiGDL3DtOPfOLcs9htVe0H8cqYMuTBOzjeZmqWE/LTgIE6nX RMLGI3IS0wWXjaerp8c4ZKSDmjBkAZ3G0NmscPLjI4CfsOJdr8YO4LIT2AOsUGC5l7H2 UUuhECDwmrXbTQMcdwed1pztZFXLj8heIyEII= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:51:36 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another mobius question - a new one! - presets/parameters From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb6f2a47aa30499a90334 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:52:07 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb6f2a47aa30499a90334 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, that's a good idea. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Keith Smith wrote: > Thanks Jeff. > Any chance you could add "Binding Config" to the Visible Parameters part of > the the Display Components? > k > > > --0015175cb6f2a47aa30499a90334 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, that's a good idea.

On Wed, Jan = 12, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Jeff.
Any chance you could add "Binding Config" to the = Visible Parameters part of the the Display Components?
k
=


--0015175cb6f2a47aa30499a90334-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 20:53:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 730B3183459; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=bvEo/BnKBW0mVbt09O/jHhzK6GFDPvw+u/v0w9qvMBU=; b=OahJ95ZTRRY4A0E1h7nFG9uJdAAHDryV8DVQgGlrJ6QOekyRUQSa6uhiAZ31epLNdH iKyeUw6ROXLOD0g47kSWdcFs/qOd0s9S/W5IcgCPjUhtOa1QhIAhjSGaZHK/zrloQ3bv 1jth8p3EaZYbG9+EpusybdsdLsfc5C/ZvC7vQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=SFeaWO58AKULOxI/OiiSmnQa+XUQGEqvD8Qj04YK2U+fKgq9HzOxMP/jlWfPPSzkSi rpM8UyH2r7tOfJWIsIrDPby1XP3S6sNR8Svadyi/pm1Bmp3xOkwO3iH//hyz8t9w1UZx KWx8NGJ8SVdW7Wypf8XbZ44FZTC/u0z+FwulE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:52:52 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: caGTEswlUraq0KsQ-vSuVhgmjIM Message-ID: Subject: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e83e6b34e7c0499ac63e4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:53:14 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e83e6b34e7c0499ac63e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Has anyone tried tis..? http://www.wabbitwanch.com/iFCB.html I know anyone whos anyone, has already upgraded their FCB1010s to the UNO chip, but I Havent... the main reason for me was, A) I didnt have a PC, and the software editor was PC only.. and b) I didnt find it too hard to program, and hardly used any pedals... 10 max. Now with software, I find myself needed to program FCB much more often, and wondered if anyone has tried it... it doesnt break the bank, but cant waste the time if its crap... Still saving up for Gordius... Not sure ill ever have the money tho... Just had the 5 yrs ols birthday... Cost me 5500 Kroner so far!!!! With presents and food and.... its not done yet.. still the "friends party" to go.. Jeez its like an Indian Wedding! 3 days of Festivities!!! I kid you not... Day 1 ) Nice familly dinner...+ presents Day2 ) Kindergaten Visit, 10 kids wreck the house... then on Sunday coming its Day 3) His freinds, and their parents... thats 11 more kids.. AND their fucking parents!!! How much is Pizza, Fizzy drinks, and sushi for potentially 20 adults gonna cost???? Jeez... I could have bought 2 Gordius Pedals... Ironic thing is, he really only wanted the Lego Castle... I think all the fuss irritated him... oops sorry bout that.. rant over... love him to bits.. Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e83e6b34e7c0499ac63e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone tried tis..?
http://www.wabbitwanch.com/iFCB.html

I know anyone whos anyone,= has already upgraded their FCB1010s to the UNO chip, but I Havent... the m= ain reason for me was, A) I didnt have a PC, and the software editor was PC= only.. and b) I didnt find it too hard to program, and hardly used any ped= als... 10 max.

Now with software, I find myself needed to program FCB much more often,= and wondered if anyone has tried it... it doesnt break the bank, but cant = waste the time if its crap...


Still saving up for Gordius... Not= sure ill ever have the money tho... Just had the 5 yrs ols birthday... Cos= t me 5500 Kroner so far!!!! With presents and food and.... its not done yet= .. still the "friends party" to go.. Jeez its like an Indian Wedd= ing! 3 days of Festivities!!! I kid you not... Day 1 ) Nice familly dinner.= ..+ presents Day2 ) Kindergaten Visit, 10 kids wreck the house... then on S= unday coming its Day 3) His freinds, and their parents... thats 11 more kid= s.. AND their fucking parents!!! How much is Pizza, Fizzy drinks, and sushi= for potentially 20 adults gonna cost???? Jeez... I could have bought 2 Gor= dius Pedals...

Ironic thing is, he really only wanted the Lego Castle... I think all t= he fuss irritated him...

oops sorry bout that.. rant over... love h= im to bits..

Mark



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mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @ma= rkfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/use= r825094
http://www.looop.no
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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 22:54:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1B6218345B; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <74440CBB-7EA5-4375-BB05-4AD4BA9807E1@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Finally, Orwell 1984 Remix Album on Vinyl Record. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:54:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:54:08 +0000 (UTC) This is really great Margaret congratulations! Safer is better........strong from beginning to end. Thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 23:05:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B2A818345E; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zSWLcJC0Ud7IWCbNe3j9z8yTZ0pthDLyaXkPmFaxSlg=; b=VCfYB8Eu1c62jLehkTTZl6ewWQlBjpSXd4w1nZQPbAghgFIu/4ogFrVNPv3c8FOvVS dzkP4mN9Ej2NXX+ZY1dpxcianXnmsEdd1WlF0SgrvtSK6wc1m9PW2f/uMze1mIl16GbE d+OCJ8MRosj4MIlWXBm7urLyi2k00UM8t0k90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=huiMl2QNTGdmfe3VCIemGsAIaubdH0yYd3ly9yDW4uBCGqTa3n/0El6dSlR/k6aKRf en8r/sscrg61cjshklJD4b8spkZA22ODyTtX6z5v7g9lD1ikhj86rw4wD1i382E+M/nI GIpnRVWPqiGjmlCXkvWpHIkbJmYAqcO+TxR3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:05:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3fc26dbb4a0499ae3b3a Resent-Message-ID: <4M2uVB.A.0UF.kOjLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:05:09 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3fc26dbb4a0499ae3b3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I believe Ripwerx will work on Mac. I run it on a PC and it's great, and free! On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Has anyone tried tis..? > http://www.wabbitwanch.com/iFCB.html > > I know anyone whos anyone, has already upgraded their FCB1010s to the UNO > chip, but I Havent... the main reason for me was, A) I didnt have a PC, and > the software editor was PC only.. and b) I didnt find it too hard to > program, and hardly used any pedals... 10 max. > > Now with software, I find myself needed to program FCB much more often, and > wondered if anyone has tried it... it doesnt break the bank, but cant waste > the time if its crap... > > > Still saving up for Gordius... Not sure ill ever have the money tho... Just > had the 5 yrs ols birthday... Cost me 5500 Kroner so far!!!! With presents > and food and.... its not done yet.. still the "friends party" to go.. Jeez > its like an Indian Wedding! 3 days of Festivities!!! I kid you not... Day 1 > ) Nice familly dinner...+ presents Day2 ) Kindergaten Visit, 10 kids wreck > the house... then on Sunday coming its Day 3) His freinds, and their > parents... thats 11 more kids.. AND their fucking parents!!! How much is > Pizza, Fizzy drinks, and sushi for potentially 20 adults gonna cost???? > Jeez... I could have bought 2 Gordius Pedals... > > Ironic thing is, he really only wanted the Lego Castle... I think all the > fuss irritated him... > > oops sorry bout that.. rant over... love him to bits.. > > Mark > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0015174c3fc26dbb4a0499ae3b3a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe Ripwerx will work on Mac. I run it on a PC and it's great, an= d free!

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM, = mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Has anyone tried tis..?
http://www.wabbitwanch.c= om/iFCB.html

I know anyone whos anyone, has already upgraded their FCB1010s to the U= NO chip, but I Havent... the main reason for me was, A) I didnt have a PC, = and the software editor was PC only.. and b) I didnt find it too hard to pr= ogram, and hardly used any pedals... 10 max.

Now with software, I find myself needed to program FCB much more often,= and wondered if anyone has tried it... it doesnt break the bank, but cant = waste the time if its crap...


Still saving up for Gordius... Not= sure ill ever have the money tho... Just had the 5 yrs ols birthday... Cos= t me 5500 Kroner so far!!!! With presents and food and.... its not done yet= .. still the "friends party" to go.. Jeez its like an Indian Wedd= ing! 3 days of Festivities!!! I kid you not... Day 1 ) Nice familly dinner.= ..+ presents Day2 ) Kindergaten Visit, 10 kids wreck the house... then on S= unday coming its Day 3) His freinds, and their parents... thats 11 more kid= s.. AND their fucking parents!!! How much is Pizza, Fizzy drinks, and sushi= for potentially 20 adults gonna cost???? Jeez... I could have bought 2 Gor= dius Pedals...

Ironic thing is, he really only wanted the Lego Castle... I think all t= he fuss irritated him...

oops sorry bout that.. rant over... love h= im to bits..

Mark



--
mark= francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.com<= /a>
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no



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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 12 23:57:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 821EB18345D; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ro0q+u6ppMpLvYJaOMCtSRvHKkT3gJ+bg41qXxZeeiM=; b=b04YARmIDxE4PO+KFft1j0qA/ExIednH61ckR4Mt+bHL2145nRx4QVLa+hN5OOriJS I4K7kqNvmDr3OwjHS/46zwj53R1p13+w6UwLqWfEfkTTYzbhs3vuS5j8nwPq11F0Wpz1 3xr4Xgr+QkedbPneXAF6o1GG1RvTmlx2qscOw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dCYHBqgaI7qC+jyCwuUAyvotpHv6Xs6lr3r5MlwptTiXBTlkgGjKFqQDy396jlYhy4 WAgJglV1TWdaNwElkGUxxykXgrtbJ+xlf5WHixNQQHzQKV+OrEL30MCvNxgq/04upzV1 vaxD+1OqbCLHpDiv398BoQZUQzHpZsuYUinTA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2D7010.8070408@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1594EE95-3492-4D0C-A895-E5640C2C3512@me.com> <4D284B78.1090306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2A3541.4050507@tiscali.co.uk> <4F9677C9-AFD3-4169-B73C-549A5BD7B0CE@charter.net> <4D2C8A4E.7030808@tiscali.co.uk> <4D2D7010.8070408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:57:32 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EchoLoop vs mobius From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362849f8f20cfe0499aef682 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:57:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016362849f8f20cfe0499aef682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 [andy] > > > The way Mobius handles memory is different to the EDP/Echoloop > > > at a very fundamental level, so it could never have been an > > > accurate emulation... [Jeff] > > Well, I wouldn't say "could never have been" but certainly "would have > > been difficult" or even "could have been but why" :) [andy] > should have said "would never have been" > how's that? > (because out of the possibilities available for growing the > software the EDP emulator was a very poor option in terms of effort > required versus client satisfaction) Right. I want to make sure it's understood that my half joking "could have been but why" comment didn't mean I thought the EDP approach to managing memory was faulty in some way, it's actually quite a briliant and elegant way to manage a limited amount of memory in an embedded application. It's just that given the luxury of unlimited virtual memory on a PC, it was much easier for me to do it a different way. That was good for some things, not so good for others. Jeff --0016362849f8f20cfe0499aef682 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

[andy]
> > > The way Mobius handles = memory is different to the EDP/Echoloop
> > > at a very = fundamental level, so it could never have been an
> > > = accurate emulation...

[Jeff]
> > Well, I wouldn't say &qu= ot;could never have been" but certainly "would have
>= ; > been difficult" or even "could have been but why" :)<= /div>

[andy]
> should have said "would neve= r have been"
> how's that?
> (because ou= t of the possibilities available for growing the
> software th= e EDP emulator was a very poor option in =A0terms of effort
> required versus client satisfaction)

Rig= ht. =A0I want to make sure it's understood that my half joking "co= uld
have been but why" comment didn't mean I thought the= EDP approach to
managing memory was faulty in some way, it's actually quite a bril= iant
and elegant way to manage a limited amount of memory in an e= mbedded
application.

It's just that = given the luxury of unlimited virtual memory on a PC,
it was much easier for me to do it a different way. =A0That was good f= or
some things, not so good for others.

= Jeff

--0016362849f8f20cfe0499aef682-- From info@mail.net Thu Jan 13 00:32:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 28450 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:32:09 UTC Received: from webmail.tni.ac.th (webmail.tni.ac.th [58.181.194.18]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 65AAD183452 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:31:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32837 invoked by uid 1009); 12 Jan 2011 15:18:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO webmail.tni.ac.th) (127.0.0.1) by webmail.tni.ac.th with SMTP; 12 Jan 2011 15:18:47 -0000 Received: from 113.211.7.160 (SquirrelMail authenticated user chavakarn) by webmail.tni.ac.th with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:18:47 +0700 (ICT) Message-ID: <2744.113.211.7.160.1294845527.squirrel@webmail.tni.ac.th> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:18:47 +0700 (ICT) Subject: Grant Award 2011 Edition From: "OBAMA'S FOUNDATION" Reply-To: mrsroselinewoods1@luckymail.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=tis-620 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Greetings to you, On behalf of the Obama's Foundation, we wish to notify you as a beneficiary of $7,000,000.00 in compensation of scam victims.Do contact HSBC INTERNATIONAL BANK, United Kingdom Branch for verification and release of your $7,000,000.00 USD that we have deposited with the HSBC BANK,UK. The account log on will be presented to you by the bank in order to access the funds before releasing into your nominated bank account. You will transfer the funds into your nominated account on-line as the HSBC BANK,UK will provide the necessary information to you.Do contact the Managing Director of the HSBC BANK,UK with the following details: You are to fill the appropriate form and submit to the bank. [1] Full Names:....................... [2] Contact address:....................... [3] Direct Telephone No:....................... |4| Occupation :....................... [5] Age :....................... [6] Marital Status:............. Managing Director of the HSBC BANK,UK Name: Mrs. Roseline Wood Private Email:mrsroselinewoods1@luckymail.com Yours Faithfully, Dr.Caravan Marvis Co-ordinator. OBAMA'S FOUNDATION From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 01:12:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B6B418345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=g8XAZUihmxOcWP5XtWZLNXeAkzS31AS3qr5kOtBTmuM=; b=iQicFH7CmetzF2XnftXrMuJBRICXLy69SeCie8gvcaVrWjBAhjuhCHqC12YWWMhm5l 1kmKfX+liWnPtpIg455uppQktMfSf2/tCgKpC6NW+0zgKY0GkeuTIR+p396fGRSZBlv9 s3cAoIikWz68bRkg7llifeLDUbCDa51ACcJrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KjMo1SMhwoLNdqmrLZTy4zzVQ++jwYoDcjWbyQjuGYrw8WXBoxlFwtd5wLUZy+nnZe uW7i/IOAQeicSnLj+E/i7H6OFztbAO4RLPxRoS3BZkSoMaaRFJptHE8DdHNUmpfekDrU dFDDFKlfIowexFcfLlyBAKt1L5PptrE9DXpuA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:12:21 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a62d7143420499b0029c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:12:22 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a62d7143420499b0029c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Tony K wrote: > I believe Ripwerx will work on Mac. I run it on a PC and it's great, and > free! > > Pretty sure that ripwerx is not compatible with the stock firmware. It seems Mark is asking about iFCB because it is compatible with the stock firmware. Mark, for the price of that software, why not just get the UNO chip and have some penny's left over? Then you CAN use ripwerx... michael --20cf3054a62d7143420499b0029c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
I believe Ripwerx will work on Mac. I run it on a PC and it's great, an= d free!


Pretty sure that ripwerx is not compatib= le with the stock firmware. It seems Mark is asking about iFCB because it i= s compatible with the stock firmware.

Mark, for the price of that so= ftware, why not just get the UNO chip and have some penny's left over? = Then you CAN use ripwerx...

michael
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<20110113062354.pbobeu6ls048cg0g@mail.icedsl.hu> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:23:54 +0100 From: OCEANIC BANK PLC Reply-to: atmoceanicplc@mail.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: CODE OF CONDUCT(ATM-900) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) ATTENTION; OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC. CONGRATULATION! The ATM CARD payment center,OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC has been mandated to issue out an ATM CARD value of {$900,000 USD},to you, which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world. You are advised to keep this information confidentially away from the public to avoid fraudule= nt claim (IMPORTANT) pending of the delivery of your ATM CARD to you. Note that becau= se of impostors,we hereby issued you our CODE OF CONDUCT,which is (ATM-900) so you have to indicate this when contact us by using it as your subject.complete the form below and send it to (atmoceanicplc@mail.com) for the processing of your document and transfer of your ATM MASTER CARD to your home address you are to send your Details. CODE OF CONDUCT:_____________ NAME IN FULL:_____________ DATE OF BIRTH:_____________ AGE:_____________ SEX:_____________ MARITAL STATUS:_____________ HOME ADDRESS:_____________ NATIONALITY:_____________ COUNTRY:_____________ OCCUPATION:_____________ POSITION:_____________ OFFICE ADDRESS:_____________ TEL:_____________ MOBILE:_____________ DECLARATION....I,Mr/Mrs:_____________ do hereby declare that the information given above, is correct to the best of my knowledge and believe the same to be true. ATTENTION; OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC. CONGRATULATION! The ATM CARD payment center,OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC has been mandated to issue out an ATM CARD value of {$900,000 USD},to you, which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world. You are advised to keep this information confidentially away from the public to avoid fraudule= nt claim (IMPORTANT) pending of the delivery of your ATM CARD to you. Note that becau= se of impostors,we hereby issued you our CODE OF CONDUCT,which is (ATM-900) so you have to indicate this when contact us by using it as your subject.complete the form below and send it to (atmoceanicplc@mail.com) for the processing of your document and transfer of your ATM MASTER CARD to your home address you are to send your Details. CODE OF CONDUCT:_____________ NAME IN FULL:_____________ DATE OF BIRTH:_____________ AGE:_____________ SEX:_____________ MARITAL STATUS:_____________ HOME ADDRESS:_____________ NATIONALITY:_____________ COUNTRY:_____________ OCCUPATION:_____________ POSITION:_____________ OFFICE ADDRESS:_____________ TEL:_____________ MOBILE:_____________ DECLARATION....I,Mr/Mrs:_____________ do hereby declare that the information given above, is correct to the best of my knowledge and believe the same to be true. ATTENTION; OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC. CONGRATULATION! The ATM CARD payment center,OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC has been mandated to issue out an ATM CARD value of {$900,000 USD},to you, which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world. You are advised to keep this information confidentially away from the public to avoid fraudule= nt claim (IMPORTANT) pending of the delivery of your ATM CARD to you. Note that becau= se of impostors,we hereby issued you our CODE OF CONDUCT,which is (ATM-900) so you have to indicate this when contact us by using it as your subject.complete the form below and send it to (atmoceanicplc@mail.com) for the processing of your document and transfer of your ATM MASTER CARD to your home address you are to send your Details. CODE OF CONDUCT:_____________ NAME IN FULL:_____________ DATE OF BIRTH:_____________ AGE:_____________ SEX:_____________ MARITAL STATUS:_____________ HOME ADDRESS:_____________ NATIONALITY:_____________ COUNTRY:_____________ OCCUPATION:_____________ POSITION:_____________ OFFICE ADDRESS:_____________ TEL:_____________ MOBILE:_____________ DECLARATION....I,Mr/Mrs:_____________ do hereby declare that the information given above, is correct to the best of my knowledge and believe the same to be true. ATTENTION; OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC. CONGRATULATION! The ATM CARD payment center,OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC has been mandated to issue out an ATM CARD value of {$900,000 USD},to you, which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world. You are advised to keep this information confidentially away from the public to avoid fraudule= nt claim (IMPORTANT) pending of the delivery of your ATM CARD to you. Note that becau= se of impostors,we hereby issued you our CODE OF CONDUCT,which is (ATM-900) so you have to indicate this when contact us by using it as your subject.complete the form below and send it to (atmoceanicplc@mail.com) for the processing of your document and transfer of your ATM MASTER CARD to your home address you are to send your Details. CODE OF CONDUCT:_____________ NAME IN FULL:_____________ DATE OF BIRTH:_____________ AGE:_____________ SEX:_____________ MARITAL STATUS:_____________ HOME ADDRESS:_____________ NATIONALITY:_____________ COUNTRY:_____________ OCCUPATION:_____________ POSITION:_____________ OFFICE ADDRESS:_____________ TEL:_____________ MOBILE:_____________ DECLARATION....I,Mr/Mrs:_____________ do hereby declare that the information given above, is correct to the best of my knowledge and believe the same to be true. ATTENTION; OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC. CONGRATULATION! The ATM CARD payment center,OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC has been mandated to issue out an ATM CARD value of {$900,000 USD},to you, which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world. You are advised to keep this information confidentially away from the public to avoid fraudule= nt claim (IMPORTANT) pending of the delivery of your ATM CARD to you. Note that becau= se of impostors,we hereby issued you our CODE OF CONDUCT,which is (ATM-900) so you have to indicate this when contact us by using it as your subject.complete the form below and send it to (atmoceanicplc@mail.com) for the processing of your document and transfer of your ATM MASTER CARD to your home address you are to send your Details. CODE OF CONDUCT:_____________ NAME IN FULL:_____________ DATE OF BIRTH:_____________ AGE:_____________ SEX:_____________ MARITAL STATUS:_____________ HOME ADDRESS:_____________ NATIONALITY:_____________ COUNTRY:_____________ OCCUPATION:_____________ POSITION:_____________ OFFICE ADDRESS:_____________ TEL:_____________ MOBILE:_____________ DECLARATION....I,Mr/Mrs:_____________ do hereby declare that the information given above, is correct to the best of my knowledge and believe the same to be true. ATTENTION; OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC. CONGRATULATION! The ATM CARD payment center,OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC has been mandated to issue out an ATM CARD value of {$900,000 USD},to you, which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world. You are advised to keep this information confidentially away from the public to avoid fraudule= nt claim (IMPORTANT) pending of the delivery of your ATM CARD to you. Note that becau= se of impostors,we hereby issued you our CODE OF CONDUCT,which is (ATM-900) so you have to indicate this when contact us by using it as your subject.complete the form below and send it to (atmoceanicplc@mail.com) for the processing of your document and transfer of your ATM MASTER CARD to your home address you are to send your Details. CODE OF CONDUCT:_____________ NAME IN FULL:_____________ DATE OF BIRTH:_____________ AGE:_____________ SEX:_____________ MARITAL STATUS:_____________ HOME ADDRESS:_____________ NATIONALITY:_____________ COUNTRY:_____________ OCCUPATION:_____________ POSITION:_____________ OFFICE ADDRESS:_____________ TEL:_____________ MOBILE:_____________ DECLARATION....I,Mr/Mrs:_____________ do hereby declare that the information given above, is correct to the best of my knowledge and believe the same to be true. ATTENTION; OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC. CONGRATULATION! The ATM CARD payment center,OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC has been mandated to issue out an ATM CARD value of {$900,000 USD},to you, which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world. You are advised to keep this information confidentially away from the public to avoid fraudule= nt claim (IMPORTANT) pending of the delivery of your ATM CARD to you. Note that becau= se of impostors,we hereby issued you our CODE OF CONDUCT,which is (ATM-900) so you have to indicate this when contact us by using it as your subject.complete the form below and send it to (atmoceanicplc@mail.com) for the processing of your document and transfer of your ATM MASTER CARD to your home address you are to send your Details. CODE OF CONDUCT:_____________ NAME IN FULL:_____________ DATE OF BIRTH:_____________ AGE:_____________ SEX:_____________ MARITAL STATUS:_____________ HOME ADDRESS:_____________ NATIONALITY:_____________ COUNTRY:_____________ OCCUPATION:_____________ POSITION:_____________ OFFICE ADDRESS:_____________ TEL:_____________ MOBILE:_____________ DECLARATION....I,Mr/Mrs:_____________ do hereby declare that the information given above, is correct to the best of my knowledge and believe the same to be true. ATTENTION; OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC. CONGRATULATION! The ATM CARD payment center,OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC has been mandated to issue out an ATM CARD value of {$900,000 USD},to you, which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world. You are advised to keep this information confidentially away from the public to avoid fraudule= nt claim (IMPORTANT) pending of the delivery of your ATM CARD to you. Note that becau= se of impostors,we hereby issued you our CODE OF CONDUCT,which is (ATM-900) so you have to indicate this when contact us by using it as your subject.complete the form below and send it to (atmoceanicplc@mail.com) for the processing of your document and transfer of your ATM MASTER CARD to your home address you are to send your Details. CODE OF CONDUCT:_____________ NAME IN FULL:_____________ DATE OF BIRTH:_____________ AGE:_____________ SEX:_____________ MARITAL STATUS:_____________ HOME ADDRESS:_____________ NATIONALITY:_____________ COUNTRY:_____________ OCCUPATION:_____________ POSITION:_____________ OFFICE ADDRESS:_____________ TEL:_____________ MOBILE:_____________ DECLARATION....I,Mr/Mrs:_____________ do hereby declare that the information given above, is correct to the best of my knowledge and believe the same to be true. ATTENTION; OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC. CONGRATULATION! The ATM CARD payment center,OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC has been mandated to issue out an ATM CARD value of {$900,000 USD},to you, which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world. You are advised to keep this information confidentially away from the public to avoid fraudule= nt claim (IMPORTANT) pending of the delivery of your ATM CARD to you. Note that becau= se of impostors,we hereby issued you our CODE OF CONDUCT,which is (ATM-900) so you have to indicate this when contact us by using it as your subject.complete the form below and send it to (atmoceanicplc@mail.com) for the processing of your document and transfer of your ATM MASTER CARD to your home address you are to send your Details. CODE OF CONDUCT:_____________ NAME IN FULL:_____________ DATE OF BIRTH:_____________ AGE:_____________ SEX:_____________ MARITAL STATUS:_____________ HOME ADDRESS:_____________ NATIONALITY:_____________ COUNTRY:_____________ OCCUPATION:_____________ POSITION:_____________ OFFICE ADDRESS:_____________ TEL:_____________ MOBILE:_____________ DECLARATION....I,Mr/Mrs:_____________ do hereby declare that the information given above, is correct to the best of my knowledge and believe the same to be true. ATTENTION; OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC. CONGRATULATION! The ATM CARD payment center,OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC has been mandated to issue out an ATM CARD value of {$900,000 USD},to you, which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world. You are advised to keep this information confidentially away from the public to avoid fraudule= nt claim (IMPORTANT) pending of the delivery of your ATM CARD to you. Note that becau= se of impostors,we hereby issued you our CODE OF CONDUCT,which is (ATM-900) so you have to indicate this when contact us by using it as your subject.complete the form below and send it to (atmoceanicplc@mail.com) for the processing of your document and transfer of your ATM MASTER CARD to your home address you are to send your Details. CODE OF CONDUCT:_____________ NAME IN FULL:_____________ DATE OF BIRTH:_____________ AGE:_____________ SEX:_____________ MARITAL STATUS:_____________ HOME ADDRESS:_____________ NATIONALITY:_____________ COUNTRY:_____________ OCCUPATION:_____________ POSITION:_____________ OFFICE ADDRESS:_____________ TEL:_____________ MOBILE:_____________ DECLARATION....I,Mr/Mrs:_____________ do hereby declare that the information given above, is correct to the best of my knowledge and believe the same to be true. ATTENTION; OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC. CONGRATULATION! The ATM CARD payment center,OCEANIC BANK INTERNATIONAL PLC has been mandated to issue out an ATM CARD value of {$900,000 USD},to you, which you can use to withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world. You are advised to keep this information confidentially away from the public to avoid fraudule= nt claim (IMPORTANT) pending of the delivery of your ATM CARD to you. Note that becau= se of impostors,we hereby issued you our CODE OF CONDUCT,which is (ATM-900) so you have to indicate this when contact us by using it as your subject.complete the form below and send it to (atmoceanicplc@mail.com) for the processing of your document and transfer of your ATM MASTER CARD to your home address you are to send your Details. CODE OF CONDUCT:_____________ NAME IN FULL:_____________ DATE OF BIRTH:_____________ AGE:_____________ SEX:_____________ MARITAL STATUS:_____________ HOME ADDRESS:_____________ NATIONALITY:_____________ COUNTRY:_____________ OCCUPATION:_____________ POSITION:_____________ OFFICE ADDRESS:_____________ TEL:_____________ MOBILE:_____________ DECLARATION....I,Mr/Mrs:_____________ do hereby declare that the information given above, is correct to the best of my knowledge and believe the same to be true. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 05:44:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26A7918345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 05:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Pn5+EOupJ6emG0m0kZYoNaTgSJCRhricGSIzwPlncj8=; b=RY4+AtTv5rR1MsP+lCwMpG/+U0SuwoV8/G8bG0+wRFe7kxagkhiaWsSFgaWBJw893k MQyGO2PNOWXKY2bx4B+C5bOKHwelXPoW5oqgDUCVcPbKyAPtHOvPBgmrWOCClkXFaNbK mf5Ber2JyBo4zQphEPwtLXAxUVy7mFIbXgVOs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oQpFWCxk7RYXB1UzQ6kIB15rsfxIOFqf204Qt9OLhppmmRJTlul+In5cTvgtdv7z0C 4yLYcR8kdrbwHnQQLEpSBpQXIYiNkG7DaYpkB6apcbZyiwmZ6Gteg9I/hp7PO3HYKcWI oYfXiEBeAeTBjL7gAGjg1IbveT9RZiRXplPIg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:44:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3fc26747490499b3ce09 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 05:44:09 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3fc26747490499b3ce09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ah yes, you care correct. I didn't realize Ripwerx didn't work with the stock FCB. Sorry! On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:12 PM, michael noble wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Tony K wrote: > >> I believe Ripwerx will work on Mac. I run it on a PC and it's great, and >> free! >> >> > Pretty sure that ripwerx is not compatible with the stock firmware. It > seems Mark is asking about iFCB because it is compatible with the stock > firmware. > > Mark, for the price of that software, why not just get the UNO chip and > have some penny's left over? Then you CAN use ripwerx... > > michael > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0015174c3fc26747490499b3ce09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah yes, you care correct.=A0 I didn't realize Ripwerx didn't work w= ith the stock FCB.=A0 Sorry!

On Wed, Jan = 12, 2011 at 8:12 PM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
I believe Ripwerx will work on Mac. I run it on a PC and it's great, an= d free!


Pretty sure that ripwerx is not co= mpatible with the stock firmware. It seems Mark is asking about iFCB becaus= e it is compatible with the stock firmware.

Mark, for the price of t= hat software, why not just get the UNO chip and have some penny's left = over? Then you CAN use ripwerx...

michael



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--0015174c3fc26747490499b3ce09-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 07:07:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47E8418345C; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=GEjmAqHhBBwuMbQeUw3j0EhMgcpel9Pdp27RoyLsi4I=; b=KPc1AR5dvSPSB88RzDxS8ck40kPs0dAilFQDfFji08d/8jWQZvSGiUbka7RHSiF4Lr 1hy+s4V8rQKKG2C4VKq3iQrsb9nLJVs8mSnqVCXHj/Dor5sQwdgo2q8EI3OR6VMGBrPC LooEGQYdyaXky2TLw2JHt59kUKuGUOajD24Rs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=C2gJRAHD5eqZr3h8jHflO/Id4EpJJVU4CWayK0SZGGae1YjApCdYTjoOOVvhjujFHb TCfREQ1fYpSCoDUn28JtgPPQzpIjhjR2+oemngtiw5KnR/QouHmPxPKbJ/SH7AlA5KMa IPtDO1MT6VavoixN7eB6bk+8XTHycEXq0l9IE= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:07:56 +0100 Message-ID: <5785319521642625419@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8cd2dcb8570499b4f74e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:07:19 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8cd2dcb8570499b4f74e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I dont Think so Tony... It is Java... So maybe But... Well i got a very odd collectuon of files ... I tried this iFCB thing... Seemed Ok but wouldnt work on my fcb... I have the earliest firmware... 1.00!!! Needs 2.something to run... Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 13 Jan 2011, at 00:05, Tony K wrote: I believe Ripwerx will work on Mac. I run it on a PC and it's great, and free! On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Has anyone tried tis..? > http://www.wabbitwanch.com/iFCB.html > > I know anyone whos anyone, has already upgraded their FCB1010s to the UNO > chip, but I Havent... the main reason for me was, A) I didnt have a PC, and > the software editor was PC only.. and b) I didnt find it too hard to > program, and hardly used any pedals... 10 max. > > Now with software, I find myself needed to program FCB much more often, and > wondered if anyone has tried it... it doesnt break the bank, but cant waste > the time if its crap... > > > Still saving up for Gordius... Not sure ill ever have the money tho... Just > had the 5 yrs ols birthday... Cost me 5500 Kroner so far!!!! With presents > and food and.... its not done yet.. still the "friends party" to go.. Jeez > its like an Indian Wedding! 3 days of Festivities!!! I kid you not... Day 1 > ) Nice familly dinner...+ presents Day2 ) Kindergaten Visit, 10 kids wreck > the house... then on Sunday coming its Day 3) His freinds, and their > parents... thats 11 more kids.. AND their fucking parents!!! How much is > Pizza, Fizzy drinks, and sushi for potentially 20 adults gonna cost???? > Jeez... I could have bought 2 Gordius Pedals... > > Ironic thing is, he really only wanted the Lego Castle... I think all the > fuss irritated him... > > oops sorry bout that.. rant over... love him to bits.. > > Mark > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > -- -==-=-=- Tony --90e6ba6e8cd2dcb8570499b4f74e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I dont Think so Tony... It is Java... = So maybe But... Well i got a very odd collectuon of files ...
I tried this iFCB thing... Seemed Ok but wouldnt work on my fcb= ... I have the earliest firmware... 1.00!!! Needs 2.something to run...

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 13 Jan 2011, at 0= 0:05, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:

I beli= eve Ripwerx will work on Mac. I run it on a PC and it's great, and free= !

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM, mark franco= mbe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Has anyone tried tis..?
http://www.wabbitwanch.com/iFCB.html

I know anyone whos anyone, has already upgraded their FCB1010s to the U= NO chip, but I Havent... the main reason for me was, A) I didnt have a PC, = and the software editor was PC only.. and b) I didnt find it too hard to pr= ogram, and hardly used any pedals... 10 max.

Now with software, I find myself needed to program FCB much more often,= and wondered if anyone has tried it... it doesnt break the bank, but cant = waste the time if its crap...


Still saving up for Gordius... Not= sure ill ever have the money tho... Just had the 5 yrs ols birthday... Cos= t me 5500 Kroner so far!!!! With presents and food and.... its not done yet= .. still the "friends party" to go.. Jeez its like an Indian Wedd= ing! 3 days of Festivities!!! I kid you not... Day 1 ) Nice familly dinner.= ..+ presents Day2 ) Kindergaten Visit, 10 kids wreck the house... then on S= unday coming its Day 3) His freinds, and their parents... thats 11 more kid= s.. AND their fucking parents!!! How much is Pizza, Fizzy drinks, and sushi= for potentially 20 adults gonna cost???? Jeez... I could have bought 2 Gor= dius Pedals...

Ironic thing is, he really only wanted the Lego Castle... I think all t= he fuss irritated him...

oops sorry bout that.. rant over... love h= im to bits..

Mark



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http://www.looop.no



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--90e6ba6e8cd2dcb8570499b4f74e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 07:08:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B904183466; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=RCT3/IXlMOBuzri9fFc7FK4KGm2GLmtmw0tEKZKPyqQ=; b=G/Wo1XGdsaLsE/P4IipgKiPrFoY+3FcV7x9LyGdUPqa+qJ0sXXsl3zJ1/A/yTJ/mHR O1FE/njZOn+Iuw1Bue3tnZRwqww1XfwQX6Gld+tbH7Ufl08dtg9GwH7jzuiSUoPccSwF +GL/voeDewRYNJUOsZ0Cn966bMGgFxwYDYh/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=RkEu6EGtsxGiUC+D/8Vsp6p6MfVaxrhbnsNs1c+FPE3iijjXztRCWiH0DKeo1mcxdw lfUmZNuLpoC8nX0SGgr+kGh7aWE3Irqtlujlp9WYJSlzaDa2I3iHuvw5LI8e+wHR403c XzcJ9hFs2ik3iqC+simSOP133TCLqcjG1AAck= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:08:50 +0100 Message-ID: <-4430456830893723372@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 13 Jan 2011, at 02:12, michael noble wrote: > Then you CAN use ripwerx Not on a mac!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 07:08:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC3BD183476; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101120213 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-13_04:2011-01-13,2011-01-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: John Metzler Subject: EDP as an Audio Sequencer Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:08:24 -0800 Message-id: <5F9BD87D-845D-4E83-9FBB-E36F9A0F080F@me.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Hello Loopers. I'd love to hear from some of you who have used multiple EDP's as an audio sequencer with a MIDI sequencer/drum machine. I have an EDP for a Bass Guitar and a second one for an Electric Guitar. I'm programing an MPC 1000 to send the commands and MIDI Clock to the EDPs. I'm only trying to do simple Verse/Chorus/Bridge stuff. I'll record a couple of differently layered versions of a chorus and a verse and then trigger the loops with switch-quantized loop trigger commands to arrange the parts. I have not yet found a reliable way to keep both of the EDP's from slipping out of time with each other. Even brother syncing them slips most of the time. Andy and Matthias have both been helpful in pointing out some possibilities. But unfortunately I haven't had any solid luck with any method I've tried yet. I also asked an old list member named Claud Voit, but he wasn't into making music with loops anymore. Any success stories out there using the same techniques I'm employing? ---John AM. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 07:11:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16D78183476; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=CHkfzAg2mv2E/Y/7AqEPIiAZoSNSqueeSWggE3K9uCQ=; b=VnCfs3C5GECRpj8ZEEErZWsB1mgVsskMQHoKfVnpVVxL9t2h+ZG8DWmndihQ2knExp 2nYVxnJ2c1FlQPkvlKBT6/R88JHALmWLHCuubUyTf4emEcc58VC15wnjbzT4k6axn8RP IlN760LE6QmMH18PLJjs5fjVU7NhDpue9zaEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=uKqMNUU05ofVhq5O00IEfz7cEHeNPrc3y01dGN6s2IW4il48vwBVBqCqFNLyim8U+A XYIB09PQvF0NFD7TGKP9E9EK7XetLnq7Q3RR0i9PdO0FJflwaJW0zcqdgIMJBnAR6U6Q uEYRsTHRfLfpLS90epb44f0nF5+8pmJXuyl30= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:12:29 +0100 Message-ID: <1199440376706253556@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e838426aac10499b508dd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:11:53 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e838426aac10499b508dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would Get uno in a second if the ripwerx software Worked on a mac... But i never had or noticed the problems others talk about... So using the software is my only requirement... And I never found that too bothersome.. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 13 Jan 2011, at 06:44, Tony K wrote: Ah yes, you care correct. I didn't realize Ripwerx didn't work with the stock FCB. Sorry! On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:12 PM, michael noble wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Tony K wrote: > >> I believe Ripwerx will work on Mac. I run it on a PC and it's great, and >> free! >> >> > Pretty sure that ripwerx is not compatible with the stock firmware. It > seems Mark is asking about iFCB because it is compatible with the stock > firmware. > > Mark, for the price of that software, why not just get the UNO chip and > have some penny's left over? Then you CAN use ripwerx... > > michael > -- -==-=-=- Tony --90e6ba6e838426aac10499b508dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would Get uno in a second if the rip= werx software Worked on a mac... But i never had or noticed the problems ot= hers talk about... So using the software is my only requirement... And I ne= ver found that too bothersome..

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On 13 Jan 2011, at 0= 6:44, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah yes= , you care correct.=A0 I didn't realize Ripwerx didn't work with th= e stock FCB.=A0 Sorry!

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:12 PM, michael nob= le <looplog@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
I believe Ripwerx will work on Mac. I run it on a PC and it's great, an= d free!


Pretty sure that ripwerx is not co= mpatible with the stock firmware. It seems Mark is asking about iFCB becaus= e it is compatible with the stock firmware.

Mark, for the price of t= hat software, why not just get the UNO chip and have some penny's left = over? Then you CAN use ripwerx...

michael



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--90e6ba6e838426aac10499b508dd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 07:42:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0D73183460; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NShTxQDqfnHeevdJAHJ6yuZZ7AIQ/4W0GVHBixxA744=; b=GeTiaitUeb6F6xmSnNlf0/U8b+Pu4mILVaRxpUY5PB5wIaeP/j3Ejh7/fUgsLOnJC8 G3ClGLp9n2NdhHHtC62hzHQFWMzPoan6qMaBsFxGoSJbaCW0LMEk6Y44A2Z/bZFNFU0B Vvp7UnJRNnol0vhUHRyTfk0kAwD89WCI6Z98o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jFJgDjPI7VACjTffMXy4JEM1954i20kiWkbMzEEz3OmYib98rlAIYGN9fmkO313Chd t66cK1LRtqrXDZXhqxUQjdIA8LIqNT3BIt0DEdVlFxUv0qCVLL14eM6V2QE57UR9f7dG n7ik8vxbGE2cAlakueioRi8AVCiURMeYKWlE0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <-4430456830893723372@unknownmsgid> References: <-4430456830893723372@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:42:12 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a37db512260499b57463 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:42:14 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a37db512260499b57463 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:08 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 02:12, michael noble wrote: > > > Then you CAN use ripwerx > > Not on a mac!!! > > Ah, my bad. It's been a while since I checked in on the site. Pre-leopard versions could be run with plumstone, but it seems that things have changed. --20cf3054a37db512260499b57463 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:08 PM, mark fr= ancombe <ma= rkfrancombe@gmail.com> wrote:
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On 13 Jan 2011, at 02:12, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> wrote:

> Then you CAN use ripwerx

Not on a mac!!!


Ah, my bad. It's been a while since I checked in= on the site.=20 Pre-leopard versions could be run with plumstone, but it seems that=20 things have changed.
--20cf3054a37db512260499b57463-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 08:07:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBC2118345C; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mQWglMMeAM1kE6980sFGNTGyIHtXgXa9B0cjZ/Zf7X0=; b=HX6E582LoJWHBqJoY6OtnZnU/5qtb4xAs08N96glDrpSCTuW64y4hGRa2AmDpzhi0e 3fdeRm1IafukKX15Ua5Cz1Z740+GV4OzIcRFHzN/IrTbKeqjOi4jvZCxZQFQkp40d0hw kBw06V8YQem37vNuZMiRS1Te0WApUNFSazdXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=S299sFxsHqtJBVEEgGFg/STnJ10SLBj9iaWttOp0pFUOt+RoFoucsNf6HvnlGDfrdI J4tDKNf3CdrU0S6KXAOCzg1Yjz6Ays8JH3+poyzQz7lHh3JfqTC22srwd3hgl4U/JW7J 6+p8jhbd3uj9qO75qP7wBkOpL3aXePwYq2MFE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1199440376706253556@unknownmsgid> References: <1199440376706253556@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:07:28 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a3d708719a0499b5cfba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:07:29 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a3d708719a0499b5cfba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I would Get uno in a second if the ripwerx software Worked on a mac... But > i never had or noticed the problems others talk about... So using the > software is my only requirement... And I never found that too bothersome.. > > Seems your best option is to order an updated firmware chip from Behringer. I have my stock firmware chip laying around somewhere which I'd be happy to send you, but I think its version 2.2, which won't work on iFCB either by the looks of things. --20cf3054a3d708719a0499b5cfba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mark franco= mbe <markfr= ancombe@gmail.com> wrote:
I would Get uno in a second if the ripwerx so= ftware Worked on a mac... But i never had or noticed the problems others ta= lk about... So using the software is my only requirement... And I never fou= nd that too bothersome..


Seems your best option is to order= an updated firmware chip from Behringer. I have my stock firmware chip lay= ing around somewhere which I'd be happy to send you, but I think its ve= rsion 2.2, which won't work on iFCB either by the looks of things.
--20cf3054a3d708719a0499b5cfba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 08:11:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A559518345F; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=yamy6z/KsG9/MmM0XrwO8dKKVZmw8e4SvJ9Jyc3FBVg=; b=jfzj5nXa1UljJxjv0K3z1Rhbi5c6MB4bPruWEzRKdxaD3JgPPnAi0r7VKBhpKkA0g/ Mt+9/G1Hi/EbWJBnTKbDcSfVbzNAVKrEY8lVDZZ94EJiK7AHD8IRLlwuSrmbTCTsKzd+ i2XywDlV55Bbh/CrbD57WTQq5lPSsQVhA3NEY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=JXrQkuEzk/s3C/CuttI0OUlUXXBZvaqJGrfycZ2zNR4Tq8TNkO6/hELAgDaj9zFuR2 ZnQBHRXoaoF871DG3la+63uIYP2WoVk1gOttof3fWq219V7BXv78q8G0J5GV3mo0AhB4 5BsdzMm/yxmQotZ5GAR69Fa3gVRDKbs7+QeLg= References: <1199440376706253556@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:12:01 +0100 Message-ID: <-55805686059681209@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a6730a4e20499b5dd4b Resent-Message-ID: <2MCeLC.A.zWF.vOrLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:11:27 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a6730a4e20499b5dd4b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That was nice of you tho micheal... I'll look into it... Have to decide if I'm going to keep the fcb for much longer... I expect so... M Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 13 Jan 2011, at 09:07, michael noble wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I would Get uno in a second if the ripwerx software Worked on a mac... But > i never had or noticed the problems others talk about... So using the > software is my only requirement... And I never found that too bothersome.. > > Seems your best option is to order an updated firmware chip from Behringer. I have my stock firmware chip laying around somewhere which I'd be happy to send you, but I think its version 2.2, which won't work on iFCB either by the looks of things. --20cf30549a6730a4e20499b5dd4b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That was nice of you tho micheal... I&= #39;ll look into it... Have to decide if I'm going to keep the fcb for = much longer... I expect so...

M

Sent from m= y (advertisement removed)

On 13 Jan 2011, at 09:07, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Jan 13, = 2011 at 4:12 PM, mark francombe <markfranco= mbe@gmail.com> wrote:
I would Get uno in a second if the ripwerx so= ftware Worked on a mac... But i never had or noticed the problems others ta= lk about... So using the software is my only requirement... And I never fou= nd that too bothersome..


Seems your best option is to order= an updated firmware chip from Behringer. I have my stock firmware chip lay= ing around somewhere which I'd be happy to send you, but I think its ve= rsion 2.2, which won't work on iFCB either by the looks of things.
--20cf30549a6730a4e20499b5dd4b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 08:11:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2E1B183478; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=husTKyMrenD0gJuF3BrLVFffT1VaP0+SnTj7cgaN6+Q=; b=ZygYy30nvDEv5LlBq7WV9Zi4JHmFFtRT9QWy4DyE/efmK1loYMVLml8p8RqGKdQCAB 3xeaEqaFndalCxwgLCEKqZJGiV8SgWeXDfCdN1++bq5yrNXcGPDPo7S1cRq/SWpVokPn 8JmsXb8HusxwsU75tuVxXKrvJj/9yO/cAPcUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=NeSytzWdlT93s4suypKIvZlsxt+3d3Ma9epWW7cetoW/KnEz6e6HhjBn/sxCgHDcsp cYfnc/2f7nUE+j5xdAp83qd2WPS2Jcp/znOmdoPURHH/z/ByxHcGGQBEeWmOGFxVSF5o ixUZO9QMryFzs9BACiqNSGwnC3KKj4JEfpW+k= From: "Bruno E. Kleinefeld" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:11:30 +0100 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <8jb6l.A.naF.2OrLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:11:34 +0000 (UTC) The iFCB things works well. Nice UI and nice support from the guy. From hanan.abdulhalim@yahoo.com Thu Jan 13 08:24:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3822 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:24:19 UTC Received: from springseng.com (mail.springseng.com [63.231.97.101]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F767183451 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User-PC ([41.153.151.173]) by springseng.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:00:08 -0700 From: "hanan" Subject: madam hanan To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="oREiQ3h0=_BXdcTJElwxDFgVHyIZWlkFdq0" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: henan_abdulhaleemali@yahoo.com.au Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:00:03 -0800 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2011 04:00:10.0339 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F64FB30:01CBB2D6] This is a multi-part message in MIME format --oREiQ3h0=_BXdcTJElwxDFgVHyIZWlkFdq0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. - Assalamalaikum, My names are Madam Henan Abdul-Haleem Ali from Basrah address: shu'aib= a \basrah refinery\refinery houses: no. (20)Basrah city. My husband engineering contractor Basrah oil Refinery Company Ltd. Who= m was killed by bomb last attack on his way to work. His convoy came u= nder attack by roadside bomb blast killing his driver & body guards. Before my husband death he received the sum of $11million from the Ira= qi UN OIL FOR FOOD PROGRAME, IRAQI OIL MINISTRY for contracts (SOC) SO= UTH OIL COMPANY BASRAH for supplies of equipments & materials re/c= onstruction of north & south Ruwaila laying pipe lines oil refiner= y, destroyed by war. Iraq very bad turning into civil war, shia against Sunni, our position= not good we are not safe/ my purpose to contact you, I need to use yo= ur company & invest $11million as partner with you as my investmen= t manager. I and my children want to go out of Iraq & live in peace, I need f= oreign businessman or woman to help me in investment business & bu= y home villa in to live with my four children in your country. Please reply back. henan_abdulhaleemali@yahoo.com.au Assalamalaikum --oREiQ3h0=_BXdcTJElwxDFgVHyIZWlkFdq0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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--oREiQ3h0=_BXdcTJElwxDFgVHyIZWlkFdq0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 08:39:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B13E418345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=g4xOO1saWhoilF6sv9hb3NvyGiBOdRgfMdjBe+4tw04=; b=mLbrOnKyrQS0IBChhgADDoFpDamguVkMw6WamlNWTZXMqyIzbdJOcjacVz82AbyZot PwaPwlcTFY9YUnCrerKQEakQcY1QLMl4FVVPOFlNjLMnIY9pFXKAFVcy2GdFJCP0k5sm NquHH0ZKZPfRCAdlSgeVBoiVGPb9Llah3f0AQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=a8Lhrf26mpbRjSuAUsqhmrNbNA8swqJ1O0SMc9hdN2wD2ZjTf0/K8V8VEiA3wYbS2Z UENE2vZ+BiZVFyABVE57bGsmovDhkJSuBuzABkGnmEO6TVVM5k3pOvP0nhgfjbeLR3nW 0OVycxkASCk2gUUcDwaOqp1/wN4xcdZJutn+I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:39:31 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oW1VTZ6aeH9dARV7laKOMBzAyJk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8e4ce33dde0499b6425c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:39:53 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8e4ce33dde0499b6425c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Great to hear Bruno... I might consider upgrading my firmware (If it doesnt cost more than a new FCB... ha ha) I checked the software, and it looked great... but didnt work on my FCB.. and it toook a while before I rad the manual... "...doesnt work on old firmware or INO chip") cheers for the feedback Mark On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld wrote: > The iFCB things works well. Nice UI and nice support from the guy. > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8e4ce33dde0499b6425c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great to hear Bruno... I might consider upgrading my firmware (If it doesnt= cost more than a new FCB... ha ha) I checked the software, and it looked g= reat... but didnt work on my FCB.. and it toook a while before I rad the ma= nual... "...doesnt work on old firmware or INO chip")


cheers for the feedback


Mark



On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld <bruno.bk@gmail.com> wrote:
The iFCB things w= orks well. Nice UI and nice support from the guy.





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mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e8e4ce33dde0499b6425c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 08:49:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09A7218345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OrwrFIhwwfuUos7PetMBEaGGNjp+uELBVjsIL2aaDxw=; b=TmmfWg9/RgCXKzQdTOiZS4leT5HzUA7Du1/yfRZkrzpa9Hjs1SOYgxScyF3qb9EIu5 APKFy6a6l6HZMoCTNAKoLIdK59Vn7OyA9aZc+ZzVze+sw9HrbWJO5DKrVvnelS+A7qxM NSapa5NoWiOtF1VjJ+oOJ44E1e6BTA4ZzMKjc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BxO5fdruqGbDl7cH/ztmfkVsap3WDrPmHHvDTpXhg2j8Ret2Ih0udIfahBCKqoOibl rm1hz9UifVFNPMU//pirGcgFoLU4zpA+4F86WXXgC+SDu8aW8RZtqdri1L0gv27KWEOB aMbNe6LPSRy/JivXj9LnHN32in49PqmHteLSs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:49:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:49:55 +0000 (UTC) guys keep misleading Mark! the iFCB will work on a Mac but it will not work with the UnO chip mounted on the FCB the answer is quite clear under the FAQ question: I use an Intel-Mac and this application is too slow to be used. answer:Very sorry about this. There is no immediate solution. Here are some dissapointing suggestions: * Run Windows on your Mac * Go back to using original Behringer fimware. You can then use iFCB dont even try it,ive tried dowloading mandolane etc. but wont work properly quite disapointing... Luis P.S. hey Mark i thoguth you have gotten the Softstep whats the crack now? On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Great to hear Bruno... I might consider upgrading my firmware (If it doesnt > cost more than a new FCB... ha ha) I checked the software, and it looked > great... but didnt work on my FCB.. and it toook a while before I rad the > manual... "...doesnt work on old firmware or INO chip") > > > cheers for the feedback > > > Mark > > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld > wrote: >> >> The iFCB things works well. Nice UI and nice support from the guy. >> >> > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 08:52:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5A97183478; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WHaLFTBLqZHAfEDrgMrC+4+LJGxvdS5MODt2WU/jue8=; b=jWRZALBN9ZHX6Etph5cMqvejxVbvUtB+E0rpXyVaj83euOs5MXkvtGBl+dLKbgfhLL 8YFJYBwmjBAO6zeQGGehsTo1gUZLdtTfvXgVd/m/OOaIBnU7PotTPOw3KQ6QkqC8W2/H tQPXIyi31SzcaldU8Dr0DKrUWgls+krZDEThY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NONdClVbf/ZPqkTm7XK2myZzGin8QYd4sAWfQINpznC4n8FE04DsqLTwkFRTt/me+6 C1Qps+V1KnNga5LJM0zH4/C02sM7QuDa5HoKukaHWqhk9WPgObb5ouTqYP+Q4BqzzrRy bEjIrB4c7QlLk6bbQC5df9GU/ni2Z8LqWyzsE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5F9BD87D-845D-4E83-9FBB-E36F9A0F080F@me.com> References: <5F9BD87D-845D-4E83-9FBB-E36F9A0F080F@me.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:52:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP as an Audio Sequencer From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:52:52 +0000 (UTC) never got both to sync properly use one or both independently is way more fun and less time consuming;-) cheers Luis On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:08 AM, John Metzler wrote: > Hello Loopers. > > I'd love to hear from some of you who have used multiple EDP's as an audi= o sequencer with a MIDI sequencer/drum machine. =A0I have an EDP for a Bass= Guitar and a second one for an Electric Guitar. =A0I'm programing an MPC 1= 000 to send the commands and MIDI Clock to the EDPs. =A0 I'm only trying to= do simple Verse/Chorus/Bridge stuff. =A0I'll record a couple of differentl= y layered versions of a chorus and a verse and then trigger the loops with = switch-quantized loop trigger commands to arrange the parts. =A0I have not = yet found a reliable way to keep both of the EDP's from slipping out of tim= e with each other. =A0Even brother syncing them slips most of the time. > > Andy and Matthias have both been helpful in pointing out some possibiliti= es. =A0But unfortunately I haven't had any solid luck with any method I've = tried yet. =A0I also asked an old list member named Claud Voit, but he wasn= 't into making music with loops anymore. > > Any success stories out there using the same techniques I'm employing? > > > ---John AM. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 08:55:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7CD7183480; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=o/q3RiyGwGmjhXtz+aBA4rih8PfTaqzZqk90GacKC5E=; b=IoTMUXBIB+TAS+6jMNMiLp4AcOaLNZLj/iHmANgzH6DG5VDBG7CQj6w9w1mNjsltdB sIQ62gFTdp+cJW22qEE0KAZGF1zv2sME/Zk2WbqLl1QfSGAYGzTetQvIu8RP77rAqUN5 v6CobycyWzDVuU/2ZEr12ooFoN3m/f+RSb+EY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iMG46Z21SMwNGdonVcAxWlny+sfZrpOH/iCN1Qq0M0YpRKtIYpfmlhTF0drO71qoCE jcbouvInnCxTgSvuOVM0zmtbM/ELQ+48BW7snqFpKBlcqL5G8CAHpa2vDHkt96g7T+xT MUJckWKHbUt2WvEISNPt+ezRNFVD/abZw41C0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:55:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: should musicians have a second job? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:55:11 +0000 (UTC) An interesting article http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/dont-quit-your-second-day-job/?utm_source=DIYNews&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=011211 any comments? Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 09:05:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBC03183477; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=CMI8XJGUsJAt1hBCT4JdB3mXrIE9NA0/Xs7PkdTeLU0=; b=E/hdJ6l29m5XC2ARbaWvqThMf04ITHmuifRbb1ZZVvLLae8uzIUSk/6ce/fEorc3R9 jEg9gJJIza1776yUOFF8kueDQ29B23J0ASYpP/NeHo9mSFzXeVkouHlQxptIXt7LYdfy WxXTUAfNPjiS0khEWSqIEoihqVTR0VCsf50pI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=QDKJy/7oLKatRxx7C5CK1sk1TJLWkZEf+WgfFp7GErp4McT3q1dlUKvjBWItqQwN5R 3BSyIK/sJ+T6pE+TUQcKRHFgXhYgy6OkuaeDcEgYLK1TKahb9Z5IpmeAIyj/oby5umNq itVfDWbXzhIQSoKJlH1/ksY0/SHQ4LiN7rPoU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:05:22 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ulxmTZRV1UHcNQtCaPin0ZbZ9wo Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8a4c5144fd0499b69f18 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:05:44 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8a4c5144fd0499b69f18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry I thought I made it clear.. I have a VERY OLD FCB... with firmware 1.0 definately no UNO chip. I know that iFCB dont work with 1.0 but it will with 2.0 . In dont think I need UNO chip unless I can edit on a mac.. Bruno say it works well... As for Softstep Luis... I really want it to succeed, so I have not trumpeted my decision on that. I sent it back. Not based on the flaky software, I think that will be ok in the long run. I didnt like the feel of the buttons. I discovered that I NEED a physical CLICK. I suggest they put a tiny Solenoid on the pedal. to "fake" some feeling of a click... So Im back to the FCB, a few switches are dodgy.. I may open it up and fix it.. but Im also waiting for to afford Gordius.. and for them to release mac software too.. in the pipe I think... M On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > guys keep misleading Mark! > the iFCB will work on a Mac but it will not work with the UnO chip > mounted on the FCB > the answer is quite clear under the FAQ > > question: I use an Intel-Mac and this application is too slow to be used. > answer:Very sorry about this. There is no immediate solution. Here are > some dissapointing suggestions: > > * Run Windows on your Mac > * Go back to using original Behringer fimware. You can then use iFCB > > dont even try it,ive tried dowloading mandolane etc. but wont work properly > quite disapointing... > Luis > P.S. hey Mark i thoguth you have gotten the Softstep whats the crack now? > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Great to hear Bruno... I might consider upgrading my firmware (If it > doesnt > > cost more than a new FCB... ha ha) I checked the software, and it looked > > great... but didnt work on my FCB.. and it toook a while before I rad the > > manual... "...doesnt work on old firmware or INO chip") > > > > > > cheers for the feedback > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld > > > wrote: > >> > >> The iFCB things works well. Nice UI and nice support from the guy. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > mark francombe > > www.markfrancombe.com > > www.ordoabkhao.com > > twitter @markfrancombe > > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > > http://www.looop.no > > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8a4c5144fd0499b69f18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry I thought I made it clear.. I have a VERY OLD FCB... with firmware 1.= 0 definately no UNO chip. I know that iFCB dont work with 1.0 but it will w= ith 2.0 . In dont think I need UNO chip unless I can edit on a mac.. Bruno = say it works well...

As for Softstep Luis... I really want it to succeed, so I have not trum= peted my decision on that. I sent it back. Not based on the flaky software,= I think that will be ok in the long run. I didnt like the feel of the butt= ons. I discovered that I NEED a physical CLICK. I suggest they put a tiny S= olenoid on the pedal. to "fake" some feeling of a click...

So Im back to the FCB, a few switches are dodgy.. I may open it up and = fix it.. but Im also waiting for to afford Gordius.. and for them to releas= e mac software too.. in the pipe I think...

M


On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>= wrote:
guys keep misleading Mark!
the iFCB will work on a Mac but it will not work with the UnO chip
mounted on the FCB
the answer is quite clear under the FAQ

question: I use an Intel-Mac and this application is too slow to be used. answer:Very sorry about this. There is no immediate solution. Here are
some dissapointing suggestions:

=A0 =A0* Run Windows on your Mac
=A0 =A0* Go back to using original Behringer fimware. You can then use iFC= B

dont even try it,ive tried dowloading mandolane etc. but wont work properly=
quite disapointing...
Luis
P.S. hey Mark i thoguth you have gotten the Softstep whats the crack now?





On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Great to hear Bruno... I might consider upgrading my firmware (If it d= oesnt
> cost more than a new FCB... ha ha) I checked the software, and it look= ed
> great... but didnt work on my FCB.. and it toook a while before I rad = the
> manual... "...doesnt work on old firmware or INO chip")
>
>
> cheers for the feedback
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld <bruno.bk@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The iFCB things works well. Nice UI and nice support from the guy.=
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> mark francombe
> www.markfra= ncombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao= .com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo= .com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no<= /a>
>




--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e8a4c5144fd0499b69f18-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 09:27:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0183918345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WGsj5sdTdO7Jphll4+G6zouAnXi1CBhsLVxTZB6ab1M=; b=FA1ds1AABnS7kHmg3PiLPydNI6L3VCgNjanI2/86due6L52R3+Zk0aEfoz62uSSt16 WjIyyGEbEzQmXdmosn5/ZBeCX11LeRFZdVmf1053AfEEdUIFlfEII54OcPgs+9M6G2JR XuRExUCGdgcr/zWWkgQXG2MfC7qG6N07V98Bo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e3ATX1dRv2yof7uXADu1MIEX+9C8Wyt//LQoIpZE9tHBwOsr04W5Q1b5Ez+/OtDeae AIWpUDM+CHz+HA7q+If4ygJ0vTnYE1wCf4CCu+wqAkF33n3mW8jPpR5bM6EHH2Y+tPyE gstrty5nRycsfqwFvJQyDdbzAnAZGGqjr3sQk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:27:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:27:43 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > An interesting article > > http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/dont-quit-your-second-day-job/?utm_source=DIYNews&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=011211 > > any comments? Yes. It was a very interesting article. I'm a happy subscriber to the CD Baby DIY podcast where I think the author is quite active as well. However, in one regard I think the article is rubbish. The main question whether a musician should have a second job doesn't really concern anyone else except for that particular musician himself. I have personally tried both ways and experienced good and bad sides. Setting up your life to depend all on musician generated income may help to quickly make you a better performer, since you get a lot of training in that field, but in the long run it may limit your options for experimentation needed to develop whatever you do into something new and different. So the choice for direction actually comes down to your artistic ambitions too. A good compromise that I have gravitated towards by time is to set up your life with a "second job" that is related to, helps and benefits from your work as a musician. Drawback on this strategy is of course that you are not free to pick the best paid "second job" so you may have to work harder to get around. One point here however might be that it will be fun to work harder if you do fun work. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 11:44:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94D3B18345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:44:17 +0100 From: buzap@gmx.net Message-ID: <20110113114417.79650@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: OT: Sheer talent: Kurt Hugo Schneider, Sam Tsui, Sara Bareilles... To: "LD LoopersDelight" X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+PzQdhZPOPQZwNM+bC6YMZCxiW+HTILa9x7+BbWo 0hEg+8uRwoXK9Gmtv6lDsxKIe/RyssCFyzGA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: ptMdeX9XTXsuWdp/mmU5l2NCRzdyMoMB Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys just wanted to share with you music by these awesome, talented guys: - "King of Anything": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdMZAeIfM94 Incredible acapella (overdub) performance by Sam Tsui, produced by Kurt Hugo Schneider. Sara Bareilles' original version is also great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyUhxYmLF-0 Kurt Hugo Schneider is an incredibly talented young musician/producer. It's scary when his covers are better than the originals, i.e. - "Just a Dream": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2RA0vsZXf8 (again Sam Tsui singing) His shoot-out with "Jake" is hilarious: - "Baby" on Recorder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL2sffgYXwY This goes on and on with Glockenspiel, "Crockenspiel", GameBoy, Ocarina... ;-) Just check out his channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/KurtHugoSchneider best regards Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 12:10:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B407818345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=VD53Ve8qAFZ3LPrhErsHG+n3gZidmSfRV2Hw32m9STw=; b=PXDQPE5tBck//Yi+yaUnhrGrGnEVZ2FMs4BD6Y9rUy8P+b7x8Sj1xvo93Lmm30I4UC yUYZRHduH/xsCdv4Wn58BPto/TfCNrIOzAB6+oB9Nx2g7pS/Tn0t9i07hJ09wTKBtW/T bdWWzgUjFnmHXHfLwF2mYVvbOoRPlewkisn/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=gQXpj8c5V6HYeXu/bTrZntTwU4rOzXLtnwb7Wv/5u25IrSUPGXOPIPmVKa4tT8Fp+N v1V5UahldqjNO6i/iTyBEbJdiQCEpt37klL4TaFmFM99Ps3Q7hvsHgfa6A06fdq4+G0x rYd3+fazuT7oQXughMsJlyeZKzG/S6T764KmU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:10:16 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bgXBXO0aUTMosQoaOElQUtUUBuY Message-ID: Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163628482a8ae6f80499b93422 Resent-Message-ID: <1Ce0vD.A.lgF.-uuLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:10:39 +0000 (UTC) --00163628482a8ae6f80499b93422 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think this guy should run ... not walk into the real world... Its just not possible to survive without a fucking job... sure some of us might be able to include music a bit in our day-jobs, but Im sure most don't. The years I was a pro musician were great, but the day they stopped I had t= o get a job, Im not a technically skilled musician, so Im never gonna go and audition for another band, or do session work. I was not educated as a musician, and strangely enough in the real world, employers wanted to see m= y exam results, not my CD=B4s.... My advice, stay at school, get a job .. and THROW your freetime into your passion... one day they may swap places... or else you might end up being a= n old sour old wantedtobe. That article? not much more than a thinly disguised CDBaby advert... as in... you poor musicians, we understand, we can help! Mark On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > An interesting article > > > > > http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/dont-quit-your-second-day-job/?utm_= source=3DDIYNews&utm_medium=3DEmail&utm_campaign=3D011211 > > > > any comments? > > > Yes. It was a very interesting article. I'm a happy subscriber to the > CD Baby DIY podcast where I think the author is quite active as well. > > However, in one regard I think the article is rubbish. The main > question whether a musician should have a second job doesn't really > concern anyone else except for that particular musician himself. I > have personally tried both ways and experienced good and bad sides. > Setting up your life to depend all on musician generated income may > help to quickly make you a better performer, since you get a lot of > training in that field, but in the long run it may limit your options > for experimentation needed to develop whatever you do into something > new and different. So the choice for direction actually comes down to > your artistic ambitions too. A good compromise that I have gravitated > towards by time is to set up your life with a "second job" that is > related to, helps and benefits from your work as a musician. Drawback > on this strategy is of course that you are not free to pick the best > paid "second job" so you may have to work harder to get around. One > point here however might be that it will be fun to work harder if you > do fun work. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --00163628482a8ae6f80499b93422 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think this guy should run ... not walk into the real world...
Its jus= t not possible to survive without a fucking job... sure some of us might be= able to include music a bit in our day-jobs, but Im sure most don't.
The years I was a pro musician were great, but the day they stopped I h= ad to get a job, Im not a technically skilled musician, so Im never gonna g= o and audition for another band, or do session work. I was not educated as = a musician, and strangely enough in the real world, employers wanted to see= my exam results, not my CD=B4s....

My advice, stay at school, get a job .. and THROW your freetime into yo= ur passion... one day they may swap places... or else you might end up bein= g an old sour old wantedtobe.

That article? not much more than a thi= nly disguised CDBaby advert... as in... you poor musicians, we understand, = we can help!

Mark



On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at = 10:27 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes. It was a very interesting article. I'm a happy subscri= ber to the
CD Baby DIY podcast where I think the author is quite active as well.

However, in one regard I think the article is rubbish. The main
question whether a musician should have a second job doesn't really
concern anyone else except for that particular musician himself. I
have personally tried both ways and experienced good and bad sides.
Setting up your life to depend all on musician generated income may
help to quickly make you a better performer, since you get a lot of
training in that field, but in the long run it may limit your options
for experimentation needed to develop whatever you do into something
new and different. So the choice for direction actually comes down to
your artistic ambitions too. A good compromise that I have gravitated
towards by time is to set up your life with a "second job" that i= s
related to, helps and benefits from your work as a musician. Drawback
on this strategy is of course that you are not free to pick the best
paid "second job" so you may have to work harder to get around. O= ne
point here however might be that it will be fun to work harder if you
do fun work.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
mark francombewww.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markf= rancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
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Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: jayrope LD To: loopers delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: maxmsp looping developers Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:55:55 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net Resent-Message-ID: <_71qe.A.z9G.eZvLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Hello MAXMSP-Loopers, i built an experimental looping and live sound design device in MAXMSP, controlled by Wiimote and self-made USB foot pedal (it's called Laserdave). Now i am looking for people (Berliners especially welcome.), who work in the same field, for exchange of ideas and code. Note: Beware, my patches are complex ;) Please contact me offlist or via kliklak.net/contact/ if you are interested. jayrope - - - http://www.kliklak.net/downloads/ From jenniferwilliam@rediffmail.com Thu Jan 13 13:33:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from nm7.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm7.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.182.248]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C9D01183453 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.183.182] by nm7.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2011 13:33:32 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.172] by tm13.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2011 13:33:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2011 13:33:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 88277.8029.bm@omp1013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 93638 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jan 2011 13:33:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294925611; bh=dD3n7M24kPTzmGm/QvJPOpUxzEIN/LwN4BPCV23KYl0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zgq7y2Mjk4yrQRAbtA06CqqFJEs6/2c4wZRg9wgdZ0VT8K+uTs6TLb1oR4tNRWPXL1SaqDCu8xmCfWWIpKh9la67lPsayzkZ01U7A/fxEsQeGM25syrQPYQGG2IC9cN8/ys+QBv+s/ALuP93tcpApM9mdBz8aRVZJTyZMnOM258= Message-ID: <730005.85282.qm@web25907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: yE6wLw8VM1lNp8AGus5K5SqT035rUjjtBU8U.pfJzaSvMD9 WQKnHe1QKUYA1pj_dnlc_mT8sw60D0JA6gKYOAN.8rd6L92X9xOaZLru6Fd5 Z1X7dXrD9nAobC6VRl5Jn7fLN7KKk1Eid0EDKZZNRg8zoPE1oqYFB5B2kM6F UfKZjyrRtlHIgz2ekG9dwlSILX3yBtsFbOrl1146QxrtVGTie5FM8eKhFg0I FCDZU4J0YIrTWnggCXuBPb1T4fPj7NMoS9f4Lw26Ia0T8EWb71_J9Db2P9n3 xg7YY4kEEcc_VzCyzv4Haxr21cHQopfMZaaYZvFe8MA_CH1wuHswREXtteaC duBfeq97y1Udm_iTzsgki.JT58TGVALSn5oLFa8Qfd03OC8.NYqnomF_sEd_ DcaOjiNzwK9yNGK_z_68xJyg.rIHwCueAT9IKV00GhHFtAABI1jC3OXm3UZQ 7ZViCnk1BGRdSAF7thnnsI9zBfkVz6GFPJgR.OyVMYpCjlEi2S006O7Cl2HX C_LqY03AP28ohTiJ7UjF7evCOGitWuNjrIP2auNh3aAmTJwPYQd3gyQB8kH_ gQZ_nX0P9x0zTcwqz1m2UwSQwotBJzKVHX.robpi0eOfD.RzVS0RL0fwi80B m6WuseNH6Zwcf3Pb6tRFB76c1.5eAYl_1MoieqfJ75zaCk30w6.lgrEUTvyH IcADQ2oCWXlL4DbQfp0itcwQMsV5BQloAcserZ9Y9LSo5Qd_mEB5gITPRonx gXmjm8E295A-- Received: from [196.201.84.191] by web25907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:33:31 GMT X-RocketYMMF: randy2002wow X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:33:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Miss Jennifer William Reply-To: jenniferwilliam156@gmail.com Subject: From jennifer To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-260778779-1294925611=:85282" --0-260778779-1294925611=:85282 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From jennifer=A0=A0 Permit me to inform you my heart desire for a business = relationship with you. I got your contact when I was searching for a foreig= n partner here in Abidjan republic of Cote D'Ivoire on my search for honest= and reliable person. I prayed over it and decided to confide in you becaus= e your integrity and educational background. I am jennifer William,( 22 yea= rs old ),the only daugter of late Dr and mrs william david. My father was a= very wealthy Gold/Diamond dealer in Freetown, the ecaonomic capital of Sie= rra Leone. My father was poisoned to death by his close business=A0 associa= tes on one of their outings on a business trip.=A0My mother died when I was= 15 years old and since then my father took me so special.Before the death = of my father last year on=A0 match 19th 2010, in a private hospital in Free= town, he secretly called me by his bed side and told me of a deposit of 6.5 million united state dollars he concealed in a=A0 Bank = on the 2nd of JANUARY 2005 that he used my name been the only daughter as t= he next of kin when he deposited the money. He warned me that because of enemy that he was poisoned by his close associ= ates.He also advised me to seek for an honest foreigner in a country of my = choice where those associates will not hurt me as they have succeeded in po= isoning him.For your information , it has been difficult to know who is an = honest person to assist me in this transaction , and for me to continue sil= ent over looking for assistance while my money is in the bank i decided to = make a try from you, I arrived here (ABIDJAN) in a nearby country on the 28RD of novmber 2010, s= ince my uncle wants to kill me because of this certificate of deposit as he= have suceeded in collecting all my father's property left with this money;= They continuously mal-treated me, and have made life very unbearable for me.The wife serve me a delicious poisoned rice meal last time,but for the D= evine mercy the daughter secretly whispered to me not to eat the meal; i wa= sted the meal to the bin only to find two dead rat on the bin the following= morning and that made me to run away immediately. And i don't want to stay long here since i know nobody or have much money to pa= y for hotel bill. Dear, I honourably seek your assistance in the following ways:=A0=20 1.To stand as my late father's foreign partner since my late father deposit= ed it to be claim by his foreign partner and no name was mentioned, 2.To help me come over to your country to further my education.Please my in= tention is not to disturb your Peace,but because l am sincerely in need,And= desperately need a solution before my life is wasted because there is war = in this country.Among all, the most important thing is for you to be aiding= me as parent who will directing all my affair and doings in your country. = Lastly ,you will promise me that you will not betray or deny me if this=A0 = money gets into your bank account and country,Dear,I am ready to offer you = 30% of the total money for your help.and give 10% for your expensis But if = may be you are not in better position to help. Please let me know. So that = I can look for another helper. I am with the certificate of deposit upon de= mand. I will show you.Looking forward to your kind reply soonest and may Go= d bless you.call me for more infomations, SincerelyYours. jennifer =0A=0A=0A --0-260778779-1294925611=:85282 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



From jennifer = ; 

Permit me to inform you my hear= t desire for a business relationship with you. I got your contact when I wa= s searching for a foreign partner here in Abidjan republic of Cote D'Ivoire= on my search for honest and reliable person. I prayed over it and decided = to confide in you because your integrity and educational background. I am j= ennifer William,( 22 years old ),the only daugter of late Dr and mrs willia= m david. My father was a very wealthy Gold/Diamond dealer in Freetown, the = ecaonomic capital of Sierra Leone. My father was poisoned to death by his c= lose business  associates on one of their outings on a business trip.<= /p>

 My mother died when I was 15 years= old and since then my father took me so special.Before the death of my father last= year on  match 19th 2010, in a private hospital in Freetown, he secre= tly called me by his bed side and told me
of a deposit of 6.5 million un= ited state dollars he concealed in a  Bank on the 2nd of JANUARY 2005 = that he used my name been the only daughter as the next of kin when he depo= sited the money.


He warned me that b= ecause of enemy that he was poisoned by his close associates.He also advise= d me to seek for an honest foreigner in a country of my choice where those = associates will not hurt me as they have succeeded in poisoning him.For you= r information , it has been difficult to know who is an honest person to as= sist me in this transaction , and for me to continue silent over looking fo= r assistance while my money is in the bank i decided to make a try from you= ,
I arrived here (ABIDJAN) in a nearby country on the 28RD of novmber 2010, since my uncle wants to kill me because of this certificate = of deposit as he have suceeded in collecting all my father's property left = with this money;They continuously mal-treated me, and have made life very u= nbearable for
me.

The wife serve me a= delicious poisoned rice meal last time,but for the Devine mercy the daught= er secretly whispered to me not to eat the meal; i wasted the meal to the b= in only to find two dead rat on the bin the following morning and that made= me to run away immediately. And
i don't want to stay long here since i = know nobody or have much money to pay for hotel bill.
Dear, I honourably= seek your assistance in the following ways: 


1.To stand as my late father's foreign partner since my lat= e father deposited it to be claim by his foreign partner and no name was me= ntioned,
2.To help me come over to your country to further my education.

Please my intention is not t= o disturb your Peace,but because l am sincerely in need,And desperately nee= d a solution before my life is wasted because there is war in this country.= Among all, the most important thing is for you to be aiding me as parent wh= o will directing all my affair and doings in your country. Lastly ,you will= promise me that you will not betray or deny me if this  money gets in= to your bank account and country,Dear,I am ready to offer you 30% of the to= tal money for your help.and give 10% for your expensis But if may be you ar= e not in better position to help. Please let me know. So that I can look fo= r another helper. I am with the certificate of deposit upon demand. I will = show you.Looking forward to your kind reply soonest and may God bless you.c= all me for more infomations,


Sincere= ly

Yours.
jennifer


=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-260778779-1294925611=:85282-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 14:48:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF42418345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/TD9AIphpMFsMwUO+iLFxaByH3rvHPrG3ii5O0eEQ+Q=; b=gnfAhrrEy/vk2gMDFIkgzfelyYqKKlh44ICH/wTkKpGe8h9pIXVXF25PsNQ7smdSCn c5GPrYHRPRfSjLJOqeV3rRcsa/FQoxHCF5Z9L2wXDfzGn8kgK5SEGV+Uh/TR6JhzTZsh 0dNtw3gJXYt7cjVGKxxlr1fBg6BfcfNiW5qzY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Cj36qwnLkXPlpRUTI7Zac51q/0ObDcNwq7Q6H5TAZq+G3xnAXeSA6xKLOrfs3BUEin DcnQ0e/T/IPrhY1e/Gnm4d+0hS+z2UUosw6pl2ULxAqdUx2Y/HWnczKCn/xNBNJRMCGc qBLOnLRP5BScpH9/3ybZyr9F6kRf/4+nbz5qs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5F9BD87D-845D-4E83-9FBB-E36F9A0F080F@me.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:48:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP as an Audio Sequencer From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a960d58f370499bb682a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:48:24 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a960d58f370499bb682a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 it's been years since i've had my hands on a hardware edp but i never had problems with brother syncing and i had three edps running together. might wanna try this (this is how i ran 'em): connect the mpc/midi-generating device to ONE edp, which will be the master. brother sync the "slave" to the "master". send basic commands...like just get it to record a ten second loop. see if they slip out of sync with this basic setup. this might at least help you locate where shit is breaking down. - jim On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > never got both to sync properly > use one or both independently is way more fun and less time consuming;-) > cheers > Luis > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:08 AM, John Metzler wrote: > > Hello Loopers. > > > > I'd love to hear from some of you who have used multiple EDP's as an > audio sequencer with a MIDI sequencer/drum machine. I have an EDP for a > Bass Guitar and a second one for an Electric Guitar. I'm programing an MPC > 1000 to send the commands and MIDI Clock to the EDPs. I'm only trying to > do simple Verse/Chorus/Bridge stuff. I'll record a couple of differently > layered versions of a chorus and a verse and then trigger the loops with > switch-quantized loop trigger commands to arrange the parts. I have not yet > found a reliable way to keep both of the EDP's from slipping out of time > with each other. Even brother syncing them slips most of the time. > > > > Andy and Matthias have both been helpful in pointing out some > possibilities. But unfortunately I haven't had any solid luck with any > method I've tried yet. I also asked an old list member named Claud Voit, > but he wasn't into making music with loops anymore. > > > > Any success stories out there using the same techniques I'm employing? > > > > > > ---John AM. > > > > > > > > --000e0cd6a960d58f370499bb682a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable it's been years since i've had my hands on a hardware edp but i nev= er had problems with brother syncing and i had three edps running together.= =A0 might wanna try this (this is how i ran 'em): connect the mpc/midi-= generating device to ONE edp, which will be the master.=A0 brother sync the= "slave" to the "master".=A0 send basic commands...like= just get it to record a ten second loop.=A0 see if they slip out of sync w= ith this basic setup.=A0 this might at least help you locate where shit is = breaking down.=A0

- jim=A0

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:5= 2 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
never got both to sync properly
use one or both independently is way more fun and less time consuming;-) cheers
Luis

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:08 AM, John Metzler <jarofjam@me.com> wrote:
> Hello Loopers.
>
> I'd love to hear from some of you who have used multiple EDP's= as an audio sequencer with a MIDI sequencer/drum machine. =A0I have an EDP= for a Bass Guitar and a second one for an Electric Guitar. =A0I'm prog= raming an MPC 1000 to send the commands and MIDI Clock to the EDPs. =A0 I&#= 39;m only trying to do simple Verse/Chorus/Bridge stuff. =A0I'll record= a couple of differently layered versions of a chorus and a verse and then = trigger the loops with switch-quantized loop trigger commands to arrange th= e parts. =A0I have not yet found a reliable way to keep both of the EDP'= ;s from slipping out of time with each other. =A0Even brother syncing them = slips most of the time.
>
> Andy and Matthias have both been helpful in pointing out some possibil= ities. =A0But unfortunately I haven't had any solid luck with any metho= d I've tried yet. =A0I also asked an old list member named Claud Voit, = but he wasn't into making music with loops anymore.
>
> Any success stories out there using the same techniques I'm employ= ing?
>
>
> ---John AM.
>
>
>


--000e0cd6a960d58f370499bb682a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 15:14:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CDEF18345C; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=29E4Gj0fC0zkhBRlCnL0MSQjpVpjAAqKgWs5hA4/8EI=; b=hsn/a7amNIdwj9E9JgVCGYeBOz/eQB1VmNx1cHXyL0iH6sTx1IeSYnPaP0qpbakxTD A7WnNP2O5mjE/2eyyZUH7nGH5yPq8nfZdkbwNZTSELARfBVZvE1cczXuXHa4sZoorwzW z5hAyLiMUg6eATnkvP/TGvlmRRsG3lG1jC/j8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FfQQpuNIS3fUTjxAexQ3gkVxVr3k03fS/8ftY8+21tHlgRrbpI+uqo0JTcc7NQxI7E NLsEaHegeguyEoFgVVGhykL+w8Kz/IGVQ+0YyEIT1OAlWzViLDjdvwLfpTvSps3DA/6k Qr+Ce0mxfzjqlsyFISHAp47AZRGJ+JiTNcMQc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:14:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Mark, Have you also posted this to the FCB Yahoo group? Lots of UNO users AND non-UNO users over there. iFCB works just fine on the Mac, but yes, you will need to update your firmware as you already know. And the upgrade is definitely cheaper than a new FCB or Gordius. I don't use the UNO chip, so I'm not sure about any native Mac editors for use with it...but as I said, the FCB group should have the information. Good luck! Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:05 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > Sorry I thought I made it clear.. I have a VERY OLD FCB... with firmware = 1.0 > definately no UNO chip. I know that iFCB dont work with 1.0 but it will w= ith > 2.0 . In dont think I need UNO chip unless I can edit on a mac.. Bruno sa= y > it works well... > > As for Softstep Luis... I really want it to succeed, so I have not trumpe= ted > my decision on that. I sent it back. Not based on the flaky software, I > think that will be ok in the long run. I didnt like the feel of the butto= ns. > I discovered that I NEED a physical CLICK. I suggest they put a tiny > Solenoid on the pedal. to "fake" some feeling of a click... > > So Im back to the FCB, a few switches are dodgy.. I may open it up and fi= x > it.. but Im also waiting for to afford Gordius.. and for them to release = mac > software too.. in the pipe I think... > > M > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> guys keep misleading Mark! >> the iFCB will work on a Mac but it will not work with the UnO chip >> mounted on the FCB >> the answer is quite clear under the FAQ >> >> question: I use an Intel-Mac and this application is too slow to be used= . >> answer:Very sorry about this. There is no immediate solution. Here are >> some dissapointing suggestions: >> >> =A0 =A0* Run Windows on your Mac >> =A0 =A0* Go back to using original Behringer fimware. You can then use i= FCB >> >> dont even try it,ive tried dowloading mandolane etc. but wont work >> properly >> quite disapointing... >> Luis >> P.S. hey Mark i thoguth you have gotten the Softstep whats the crack now= ? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, mark francombe >> wrote: >> > Great to hear Bruno... I might consider upgrading my firmware (If it >> > doesnt >> > cost more than a new FCB... ha ha) I checked the software, and it look= ed >> > great... but didnt work on my FCB.. and it toook a while before I rad >> > the >> > manual... "...doesnt work on old firmware or INO chip") >> > >> > >> > cheers for the feedback >> > >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> The iFCB things works well. Nice UI and nice support from the guy. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > mark francombe >> > www.markfrancombe.com >> > www.ordoabkhao.com >> > twitter @markfrancombe >> > http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> > http://www.looop.no >> > >> > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 15:29:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7CD318345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:29:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2F1A45.6080504@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:29:09 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: LD LoopersDelight Subject: Re: OT: Sheer talent: Kurt Hugo Schneider, Sam Tsui, Sara Bareilles... References: <20110113114417.79650@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20110113114417.79650@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:29:17 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, buzap@gmx.net wrote: > His shoot-out with "Jake" is hilarious: Pretty Entertaining. I watched all of them! As a found sound guy for most of my adult life I am only disappointed that they used electronic drums in all these pieces. They could have gotten a little more creative and used physical objects to hit to keep it truly organic. signed bitter old found sound looping guy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 15:38:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C884B18345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1qYS3G0XVnq5KORxU8gq8Rn6NVsM6SgPihM2rIDubZc=; b=f4ocWrD/o4TpgX5DM2EtpOH3LtxJtc/SC6n1QIHuRiKtaVV4EUxOgJd05PehXsyes0 sfC/zA35SPXNDzd5uCk/koJQV2CzL8DBVhGlgFC5s1luksslpHWmtiJMCHrokHTH2DdV pLCV4MZ2RM5ZvEMJQLeicySg/uEsPgZjbhoBg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EIser/Jbpvlryf/euiLP3fNwaSAKdzDc31E6GEpMzk3vsLaqy7l/lr1i8TfKGdsdvU WFnlT56NfM/CitOjTRS312y8m03cwHEGNwQ2rKZWottvSGKDw45KNHXXzu6z42R5tpVp RjmmKIteaTqni3GmcGfjcNLBza0nsqP9eiOy8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:38:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3VkCMB.A.JgD.zxxLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:38:27 +0000 (UTC) You know, there are ways of running windows software in OS X. I use WineBottler (free) for a couple apps and it works great. In fact, I've recently winebottled a bunch of my old windows games. They actually run better this way then when I load them up in my windows 7 partition (another option if you have a spare windows licence collecting dust). have a look here to get started : http://lifehacker.com/5521308/how-to-seamlessly-run-that-one-windows-app-yo= u-need-on-a-mac Sylvain On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Dennis Moser wr= ote: > Mark, > > Have you also posted this to the FCB Yahoo group? Lots of UNO users > AND non-UNO users over there. iFCB works just fine on the Mac, but > yes, you will need to update your firmware as you already know. And > the upgrade is definitely cheaper than a new FCB or Gordius. > > I don't use the UNO chip, so I'm not sure about any native Mac editors > for use with it...but as I said, the FCB group should have the > information. > > Good luck! > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:05 AM, mark francombe = wrote: >> Sorry I thought I made it clear.. I have a VERY OLD FCB... with firmware= 1.0 >> definately no UNO chip. I know that iFCB dont work with 1.0 but it will = with >> 2.0 . In dont think I need UNO chip unless I can edit on a mac.. Bruno s= ay >> it works well... >> >> As for Softstep Luis... I really want it to succeed, so I have not trump= eted >> my decision on that. I sent it back. Not based on the flaky software, I >> think that will be ok in the long run. I didnt like the feel of the butt= ons. >> I discovered that I NEED a physical CLICK. I suggest they put a tiny >> Solenoid on the pedal. to "fake" some feeling of a click... >> >> So Im back to the FCB, a few switches are dodgy.. I may open it up and f= ix >> it.. but Im also waiting for to afford Gordius.. and for them to release= mac >> software too.. in the pipe I think... >> >> M >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >>> >>> guys keep misleading Mark! >>> the iFCB will work on a Mac but it will not work with the UnO chip >>> mounted on the FCB >>> the answer is quite clear under the FAQ >>> >>> question: I use an Intel-Mac and this application is too slow to be use= d. >>> answer:Very sorry about this. There is no immediate solution. Here are >>> some dissapointing suggestions: >>> >>> =A0 =A0* Run Windows on your Mac >>> =A0 =A0* Go back to using original Behringer fimware. You can then use = iFCB >>> >>> dont even try it,ive tried dowloading mandolane etc. but wont work >>> properly >>> quite disapointing... >>> Luis >>> P.S. hey Mark i thoguth you have gotten the Softstep whats the crack no= w? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, mark francombe >>> wrote: >>> > Great to hear Bruno... I might consider upgrading my firmware (If it >>> > doesnt >>> > cost more than a new FCB... ha ha) I checked the software, and it loo= ked >>> > great... but didnt work on my FCB.. and it toook a while before I rad >>> > the >>> > manual... "...doesnt work on old firmware or INO chip") >>> > >>> > >>> > cheers for the feedback >>> > >>> > >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> The iFCB things works well. Nice UI and nice support from the guy. >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > mark francombe >>> > www.markfrancombe.com >>> > www.ordoabkhao.com >>> > twitter @markfrancombe >>> > http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> > http://www.looop.no >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 15:51:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8276B18345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:51:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=rsy9eXVJ7g/zlki6dn4eTtrWs9Fjt4l/bNKiaqAaTlnw65ov8KCTVjLmn6Jb+L63; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <30772042.1294933868899.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:51:08 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Todd Howell Reply-To: Todd Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: 303a3acd514d41c871639b933de7ae6f7e972de0d01da940d4bca265614b84027ee8de6b9c1e60c7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.28 Resent-Message-ID: <6PvQb.A.V3D.t9xLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:51:10 +0000 (UTC)

If they want to eat. Being a pro musician was great when chemical amusem= ent was free and the girlfriend and I lived on her student loans. Amer= ican loopers, you need health insurance or else you are royally ****ed when= you get ill or injured. Living outside of the established economy is grand= fun until serious life changes occur. I am happier now in my middling heal= th care job while not dealing with the business side of the music business.= Lets' face it, alot of the people you have to deal with in the business ar= e pretty reptilian. Every club you play, every event, every booking agent i= s a boss. Wedding gigs were even worse. Don't get me started. Now, I h= ave one boss. So I started to realize there wasn't much freedom in that lif= e. I had a lot of bosses and four bandmates. It was all of the irritants of= marriage without sex.

 

Musical freedom? Bravo? I enjoy it now because it is special and not a m= atter of economic survival. It is a blessing. Not a necessity.

 

Ransacker




 

-----Original Message-----
From: mark francombe
Sent: Jan 13, 2011 5:10 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com
Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job?
I think this guy should run ... not walk into the real world...
Its j= ust not possible to survive without a fucking job... sure some of us might = be able to include music a bit in our day-jobs, but Im sure most don't.
=
The years I was a pro musician were great, but the day they stopped I h= ad to get a job, Im not a technically skilled musician, so Im never gonna g= o and audition for another band, or do session work. I was not educated as = a musician, and strangely enough in the real world, employers wanted to see= my exam results, not my CD=C2=B4s....

My advice, stay at school, ge= t a job .. and THROW your freetime into your passion... one day they may sw= ap places... or else you might end up being an old sour old wantedtobe.
=
That article? not much more than a thinly disguised CDBaby advert... as= in... you poor musicians, we understand, we can help!

Mark

<= BR>
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Per Boysen <perbo= ysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes. It was a v= ery interesting article. I'm a happy subscriber to the
CD Baby DIY podca= st where I think the author is quite active as well.

However, in one= regard I think the article is rubbish. The main
question whether a musi= cian should have a second job doesn't really
concern anyone else except = for that particular musician himself. I
have personally tried both ways = and experienced good and bad sides.
Setting up your life to depend all o= n musician generated income may
help to quickly make you a better perfor= mer, since you get a lot of
training in that field, but in the long run = it may limit your options
for experimentation needed to develop whatever= you do into something
new and different. So the choice for direction ac= tually comes down to
your artistic ambitions too. A good compromise that= I have gravitated
towards by time is to set up your life with a "second= job" that is
related to, helps and benefits from your work as a musicia= n. Drawback
on this strategy is of course that you are not free to pick = the best
paid "second job" so you may have to work harder to get around.= One
point here however might be that it will be fun to work harder if y= ou
do fun work.

Greetings from Sweden
Per Boysen
www.boysen= .se
www.perboys= en.com
www.loopr= oom.com internet music hub




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.c= om/user825094
http:/= /www.looop.no
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 15:54:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C01818345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:54:35 +0100 From: buzap@gmx.net In-Reply-To: <4D2F1A45.6080504@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <20110113155435.202360@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110113114417.79650@gmx.net> <4D2F1A45.6080504@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: OT: Sheer talent: Kurt Hugo Schneider, Sam Tsui, Sara Bareilles... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19SHel74YhSkUQcERYfUjN7GKNin6n+V639biWw8x ZcCH0UKtr+9or9ow+edrjhrh4aKxrCRYgevw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: DBgaeUcFRkkNd91hiGVqBjludWkvKBMM Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick yeah, they're really fun :) > I am only disappointed that they used electronic drums in all these pieces. To be fair: there's quite a bit of beatboxing (esp. in King of...). And the clicking rhythm on the recorder was pretty cool. Buzap -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 16:06:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82D7F18345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=fFD3+AgFQ88NXCzIuT9jlP7tRJle/qN953AiEm81/fk=; b=fFLa5KIF5dqeqMCZBxbuDhtV3+EXosZ+K2QZ6QuU9bixYS9hzrhuqhuwOD1ayZW/Ck nt2tH4nwhpRvn191L+LchBvrasEIiWreMMVK0l9LWDCdECMBoGnKE4MAWSA7vdgV5oOx aGfPlIfNnws4mlYmR+mtUKlfDkdvHBWKQMJn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=emU+sO7ddYfqq3iO0e3xPaapXVG7vJKimfuzfU9YN+o6ykbInJQ/nfeiQG4FG3YaLi k2Kd8DaVu2Wy5Ik8mBSQOcTuPlUQdOGGcjGpinashIGcDreVJ0NamsQ1/oLryP2Pk9Xy BSoTUEaGaVIhh5ECOxcAzfNB5ifVSIbC/wHz4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:06:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LhtxDZ3f5Aq9D7ITRp3QlUf-gr0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8a4ccd3f190499bc80f8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:06:41 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8a4ccd3f190499bc80f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I tried Parrallels once, didnt work well enough for me, If I ever REALLY need to do a Windows thing, Ill do the Windows partition thing... But its good to hear that iFCB is OK, Ill prob buy the firmware, thanks for all the advice guys... On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > You know, there are ways of running windows software in OS X. I use > WineBottler (free) for a couple apps and it works great. In fact, > I've recently winebottled a bunch of my old windows games. They > actually run better this way then when I load them up in my windows 7 > partition (another option if you have a spare windows licence > collecting dust). > > have a look here to get started : > > > http://lifehacker.com/5521308/how-to-seamlessly-run-that-one-windows-app-you-need-on-a-mac > > Sylvain > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Dennis Moser > wrote: > > Mark, > > > > Have you also posted this to the FCB Yahoo group? Lots of UNO users > > AND non-UNO users over there. iFCB works just fine on the Mac, but > > yes, you will need to update your firmware as you already know. And > > the upgrade is definitely cheaper than a new FCB or Gordius. > > > > I don't use the UNO chip, so I'm not sure about any native Mac editors > > for use with it...but as I said, the FCB group should have the > > information. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Dennis > > > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > > http://audiozoloft.com > > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:05 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > >> Sorry I thought I made it clear.. I have a VERY OLD FCB... with firmware > 1.0 > >> definately no UNO chip. I know that iFCB dont work with 1.0 but it will > with > >> 2.0 . In dont think I need UNO chip unless I can edit on a mac.. Bruno > say > >> it works well... > >> > >> As for Softstep Luis... I really want it to succeed, so I have not > trumpeted > >> my decision on that. I sent it back. Not based on the flaky software, I > >> think that will be ok in the long run. I didnt like the feel of the > buttons. > >> I discovered that I NEED a physical CLICK. I suggest they put a tiny > >> Solenoid on the pedal. to "fake" some feeling of a click... > >> > >> So Im back to the FCB, a few switches are dodgy.. I may open it up and > fix > >> it.. but Im also waiting for to afford Gordius.. and for them to release > mac > >> software too.. in the pipe I think... > >> > >> M > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Louie Angulo < > louie.angulo@googlemail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> guys keep misleading Mark! > >>> the iFCB will work on a Mac but it will not work with the UnO chip > >>> mounted on the FCB > >>> the answer is quite clear under the FAQ > >>> > >>> question: I use an Intel-Mac and this application is too slow to be > used. > >>> answer:Very sorry about this. There is no immediate solution. Here are > >>> some dissapointing suggestions: > >>> > >>> * Run Windows on your Mac > >>> * Go back to using original Behringer fimware. You can then use iFCB > >>> > >>> dont even try it,ive tried dowloading mandolane etc. but wont work > >>> properly > >>> quite disapointing... > >>> Luis > >>> P.S. hey Mark i thoguth you have gotten the Softstep whats the crack > now? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, mark francombe < > mark@markfrancombe.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > Great to hear Bruno... I might consider upgrading my firmware (If it > >>> > doesnt > >>> > cost more than a new FCB... ha ha) I checked the software, and it > looked > >>> > great... but didnt work on my FCB.. and it toook a while before I rad > >>> > the > >>> > manual... "...doesnt work on old firmware or INO chip") > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > cheers for the feedback > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Mark > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld > >>> > > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> The iFCB things works well. Nice UI and nice support from the guy. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > mark francombe > >>> > www.markfrancombe.com > >>> > www.ordoabkhao.com > >>> > twitter @markfrancombe > >>> > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > >>> > http://www.looop.no > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> mark francombe > >> www.markfrancombe.com > >> www.ordoabkhao.com > >> twitter @markfrancombe > >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 > >> http://www.looop.no > >> > > > > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8a4ccd3f190499bc80f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried Parrallels once, didnt work well enough for me, If I ever REALLY ne= ed to do a Windows thing, Ill do the Windows partition thing...
But its = good to hear that iFCB is OK, Ill prob buy the firmware, thanks for all the= advice guys...

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Sylvain Poi= tras <sy= lvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
You know, there are ways of running windows software in OS X. =A0I use
WineBottler (free) for a couple apps and it works great. =A0In fact,
I've recently winebottled a bunch of my old windows games. =A0They
actually run better this way then when I load them up in my windows 7
partition (another option if you have a spare windows licence
collecting dust).

have a look here to get started :

http://lifehacker.com/5521308= /how-to-seamlessly-run-that-one-windows-app-you-need-on-a-mac

Sylvain

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Have you also posted this to the FCB Yahoo group? Lots of UNO users > AND non-UNO users over there. iFCB works just fine on the Mac, but
> yes, you will need to update your firmware as you already know. And > the upgrade is definitely cheaper than a new FCB or Gordius.
>
> I don't use the UNO chip, so I'm not sure about any native Mac= editors
> for use with it...but as I said, the FCB group should have the
> information.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Dennis
>
> http://sou= ndcloud.com/usrsbin
> http://audiozolof= t.com
> http://u= srslashsbin.angrek.com/
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:05 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
>> Sorry I thought I made it clear.. I have a VERY OLD FCB... with fi= rmware 1.0
>> definately no UNO chip. I know that iFCB dont work with 1.0 but it= will with
>> 2.0 . In dont think I need UNO chip unless I can edit on a mac.. B= runo say
>> it works well...
>>
>> As for Softstep Luis... I really want it to succeed, so I have not= trumpeted
>> my decision on that. I sent it back. Not based on the flaky softwa= re, I
>> think that will be ok in the long run. I didnt like the feel of th= e buttons.
>> I discovered that I NEED a physical CLICK. I suggest they put a ti= ny
>> Solenoid on the pedal. to "fake" some feeling of a click= ...
>>
>> So Im back to the FCB, a few switches are dodgy.. I may open it up= and fix
>> it.. but Im also waiting for to afford Gordius.. and for them to r= elease mac
>> software too.. in the pipe I think...
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> guys keep misleading Mark!
>>> the iFCB will work on a Mac but it will not work with the UnO = chip
>>> mounted on the FCB
>>> the answer is quite clear under the FAQ
>>>
>>> question: I use an Intel-Mac and this application is too slow = to be used.
>>> answer:Very sorry about this. There is no immediate solution. = Here are
>>> some dissapointing suggestions:
>>>
>>> =A0 =A0* Run Windows on your Mac
>>> =A0 =A0* Go back to using original Behringer fimware. You can = then use iFCB
>>>
>>> dont even try it,ive tried dowloading mandolane etc. but wont = work
>>> properly
>>> quite disapointing...
>>> Luis
>>> P.S. hey Mark i thoguth you have gotten the Softstep whats the= crack now?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Great to hear Bruno... I might consider upgrading my firm= ware (If it
>>> > doesnt
>>> > cost more than a new FCB... ha ha) I checked the software= , and it looked
>>> > great... but didnt work on my FCB.. and it toook a while = before I rad
>>> > the
>>> > manual... "...doesnt work on old firmware or INO chi= p")
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > cheers for the feedback
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Mark
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld
>>> > <bruno.bk@gmail.= com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> The iFCB things works well. Nice UI and nice support = from the guy.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > mark francombe
>>> > www.markfrancombe.com
>>> > w= ww.ordoabkhao.com
>>> > twitter @markfrancombe
>>> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
>>> > http://= www.looop.no
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> mark francombe
>> www.mar= kfrancombe.com
>> www.ordoab= khao.com
>> twitter @markfrancombe
>> http://v= imeo.com/user825094
>> http://www.looop= .no
>>
>
>




--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e8a4ccd3f190499bc80f8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 16:49:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E573818345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=cYizeZD8jNWLEt4YoSTBTqNkIx6q3DsPIpHhlocP3qZvBcE7fsXldiIorVdxwjdoKGTQ1ibtgMSedrZj9wzkiHeveSVocvhXx+b1GHYOw3Xk7N+juWppaX4fLY9Ly47o; Message-ID: <20110113104904.7ad7c2hfi8o0kogk@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:49:04 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? References: <30772042.1294933868899.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <30772042.1294933868899.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:49:07 +0000 (UTC) As a practical matter, anyone who works for a living needs a second =20 job. No job in "corporate America" is secure and a second job =20 provides a fallback position. It used to be that one chose between a =20 "secure" job in business or technology or unstable employment as a =20 musician or artist. Now, the best someone can do is to hold two or =20 three "unsecure" jobs in the hopes that they don't all go away at =20 once. Nothing is secure anymore. -- Kevin Quoting Todd Howell : > > > If they want to eat. Being a pro musician was great when chemical > amusement was free and the girlfriend and I lived on her student > loans. American loopers, you need health insurance or else you are > royally ****ed when you get ill or injured. Living outside of the > established economy is grand fun until serious life changes occur. I > am happier now in my middling health care job while not dealing with > the business side of the music business. Lets' face it, alot of the > people you have to deal with in the business are pretty reptilian. > Every club you play, every event, every booking agent is a boss. > Wedding gigs were even worse. Don't get me started. Now, I have one > boss. So I started to realize there wasn't much freedom in that life. > I had a lot of bosses and four bandmates. It was all of the irritants > of marriage without sex. > > Musical freedom? Bravo? I enjoy it now because it is special and > not a matter of economic survival. It is a blessing. Not a necessity. > > Ransacker > > -----Original Message----- > From: mark francombe > Sent: Jan 13, 2011 5:10 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? > > I think this guy should run ... not walk into the real world... > Its just not possible to survive without a fucking job... sure some > of us might be able to include music a bit in our day-jobs, but Im > sure most don't. > > The years I was a pro musician were great, but the day they stopped I > had to get a job, Im not a technically skilled musician, so Im never > gonna go and audition for another band, or do session work. I was not > educated as a musician, and strangely enough in the real world, > employers wanted to see my exam results, not my CD=C2=B4s.... > > My advice, stay at school, get a job .. and THROW your freetime into > your passion... one day they may swap places... or else you might end > up being an old sour old wantedtobe. > > That article? not much more than a thinly disguised CDBaby advert... > as in... you poor musicians, we understand, we can help! > > Mark > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Per Boysen > wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> An interesting article >> >> > http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/dont-quit-your-second-day-job/?utm_s= ource=3DDIYNews&utm_medium=3DEmail&utm_campaign=3D011211[3] >> >> any comments? > > Yes. It was a very interesting article. I'm a happy subscriber to the > CD Baby DIY podcast where I think the author is quite active as well. > > However, in one regard I think the article is rubbish. The main > question whether a musician should have a second job doesn't really > concern anyone else except for that particular musician himself. I > have personally tried both ways and experienced good and bad sides. > Setting up your life to depend all on musician generated income may > help to quickly make you a better performer, since you get a lot of > training in that field, but in the long run it may limit your options > for experimentation needed to develop whatever you do into something > new and different. So the choice for direction actually comes down to > your artistic ambitions too. A good compromise that I have gravitated > towards by time is to set up your life with a "second job" that is > related to, helps and benefits from your work as a musician. Drawback > on this strategy is of course that you are not free to pick the best > paid "second job" so you may have to work harder to get around. One > point here however might be that it will be fun to work harder if you > do fun work. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se[4] > www.perboysen.com[5] > www.looproom.com[6] internet music hub > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com[7] > www.ordoabkhao.com[8] > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094[9] > http://www.looop.no[10] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] mailto:perboysen@gmail.com > [2] mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com > [3] =20 > http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/dont-quit-your-second-day-job/?utm_s= ource=3DDIYNews&utm_medium=3DEmail&utm_campaign=3D011211 > [4] http://www.boysen.se > [5] http://www.perboysen.com > [6] http://www.looproom.com > [7] http://www.markfrancombe.com > [8] http://www.ordoabkhao.com > [9] http://vimeo.com/user825094 > [10] http://www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 16:49:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D5A7183474; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=orNh4HE0mLIA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=uNwHIVasoXuKKoG1-_QA:9 a=x2OEEKvnZ19MlldhYHoA:7 a=uab3eufSK5aG4o_jG4KB80h4rMwA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:49:10 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <62_4f.A.p3F.L0yLNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Ahhhh . . . In some ways, I am sure, this article is merely meant as an instance of "tough love" from the author to a group of people he cares about and identifies with. He makes a number of valid points that seem to make practical sense. However, there is a lot that he grossly misses about the nature of "Art" as it has become in the last century or so (music included). If you turn back the clock 150 years or so, and switch the focus from music to painting, one can easily see that his attitude and assertions are nearly identical to those of the established art system of the "Salon" in Paris during the time of the Impressionists and Post- Impressionists: Monet, Degas, Van Gogh, Gauguin, and many other outsiders, et al. Which is to say: "Learn to be a real professional artist like so-and- so (like those being cranked out daily by the dues-paying system of schools and established galleries and patrons) or go home, give up, get a real job, get a life, get a clue." Can any of us who love art imagine what it would be like if there had never been a Vincent Van Gogh? Sure the world would've gone on turning - but it would be a lot poorer for it. Does anybody really remember the contributions of any of the work or contributions of any of the very talented folk who chose the conservative "establishment art" route in that period? Not many, I'd wager, remember or know of William Adolphe Beaugereau - perhaps the greatest academically-trained and widely successful painter from that era. He was rich and famous during his own time, but now is largely forgotten - or remembered only as a sort of historical footnote - sort of like the Pat Boone of the early rock 'n' roll era, or the manufactured and hyper-marketed boy-bands or blonde bimbette singer- sluts of today will be. So... A lot of us are **NOT** in it for the money or the fame (or the sex and drugs). I don't imagine many of us are in it "for the ages" (Art History) either - for that matter (LOL). Some of us are even ill-equipped and ill-disposed to be performers, per se . . . I know I certainly am. But some of us are nevertheless "bitten by the bug" (or the muse) and have a vision (or something) that drives us to create what we do. For better or worse, some of us simply can't help it. For whatever reason, the fickle universe has determined that (perhaps) the greater creative gifts are often given to those who did not seek them and would not venture to pursue them if they rightly had any choice in the matter. Fame and fortune may come to those who work very hard to be professional at their "craft" like plumbers or butchers or chemists. But fame, fortune and and "success" have very little sometimes to do with Art. They are irrelevant. My encouragement to any of you who want to create Art is to keep on doing it, no matter what, no matter who says "No." no matter who says "Go home, give up, get a job, cut your hair, stand up straight, fly right." etc., etc. Or, no matter who (on the other hand) says "Get serious, pay your dues, do it the way others have, compromise, join the union, do what sells, learn to moon-walk, play to the masses." Keep doing what you passion drives you to do - what has meaning for you and you alone. An audience may or may not come, but you will have done your duty to your gift . . . to you muse . . . to the universe. Best, Ted On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > An interesting article > > http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/dont-quit-your-second-day-job/?utm_source=DIYNews&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=011211 > > any comments? > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 16:55:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11746183466; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=mTRt63lmydYHDmeQHeFDAu0Y/AOAZE0kGPM//9Pdl25WPOn9JwbEaoKkYwQZoG0zaxhr+Bz/jGADtjSh/w9o0WW/HW5uhPCNUU9mSLLF3d1PJbtVj0N2wXd81lCePEb0; Message-ID: <20110113105509.ou57eb3agwo04w0c@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:55:09 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? References: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Ted, Your words are deeply moving to me. I couldn't have expressed these =20 thoughts as well as you have expressed them. I think the biggest challenge in life is to "know yourself" and then =20 to "be yourself". There is nothing quite as touching, to me, as to =20 witness someone who knows what they are about and goes about their =20 work with love and passion. -- Kevin Quoting tEd =AE KiLLiAn : > Ahhhh . . . > > In some ways, I am sure, this article is merely meant as an instance of > "tough love" from the author to a group of people he cares about and > identifies with. > > He makes a number of valid points that seem to make practical sense. > > However, there is a lot that he grossly misses about the nature of > "Art" as it has become in the last century or so (music included). > > If you turn back the clock 150 years or so, and switch the focus from > music to painting, one can easily see that his attitude and assertions > are nearly identical to those of the established art system of the > "Salon" in Paris during the time of the Impressionists and > Post-Impressionists: Monet, Degas, Van Gogh, Gauguin, and many other > outsiders, et al. > > Which is to say: "Learn to be a real professional artist like so-and-so > (like those being cranked out daily by the dues-paying system of > schools and established galleries and patrons) or go home, give up, get > a real job, get a life, get a clue." > > Can any of us who love art imagine what it would be like if there had > never been a Vincent Van Gogh? > > Sure the world would've gone on turning - but it would be a lot =20 > poorer for it. > > Does anybody really remember the contributions of any of the work or > contributions of any of the very talented folk who chose the > conservative "establishment art" route in that period? > > Not many, I'd wager, remember or know of William Adolphe Beaugereau - > perhaps the greatest academically-trained and widely successful painter > from that era. > > He was rich and famous during his own time, but now is largely > forgotten - or remembered only as a sort of historical footnote - sort > of like the Pat Boone of the early rock 'n' roll era, or the > manufactured and hyper-marketed boy-bands or blonde bimbette > singer-sluts of today will be. > > So... > > A lot of us are **NOT** in it for the money or the fame (or the sex and > drugs). > > I don't imagine many of us are in it "for the ages" (Art History) > either - for that matter (LOL). > > Some of us are even ill-equipped and ill-disposed to be performers, per > se . . . I know I certainly am. > > But some of us are nevertheless "bitten by the bug" (or the muse) and > have a vision (or something) that drives us to create what we do. > > For better or worse, some of us simply can't help it. > > For whatever reason, the fickle universe has determined that (perhaps) > the greater creative gifts are often given to those who did not seek > them and would not venture to pursue them if they rightly had any > choice in the matter. > > Fame and fortune may come to those who work very hard to be > professional at their "craft" like plumbers or butchers or chemists. > > But fame, fortune and and "success" have very little sometimes to do =20 > with Art. > > They are irrelevant. > > My encouragement to any of you who want to create Art is to keep on > doing it, no matter what, no matter who says "No." no matter who says > "Go home, give up, get a job, cut your hair, stand up straight, fly > right." etc., etc. > > Or, no matter who (on the other hand) says "Get serious, pay your dues, > do it the way others have, compromise, join the union, do what sells, > learn to moon-walk, play to the masses." > > Keep doing what you passion drives you to do - what has meaning for you > and you alone. > > An audience may or may not come, but you will have done your duty to > your gift . . . to you muse . . . to the universe. > > Best, > > Ted > > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> An interesting article >> >> http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/dont-quit-your-second-day-job/?utm_= source=3DDIYNews&utm_medium=3DEmail&utm_campaign=3D011211 >> >> any comments? >> Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 16:55:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6409718345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uPPPQKefzxcql3kbKrs5HdPk604oTx2Q/hZnioNTZn0=; b=uMkq+R3RhgoRSNaQ0zm5LHFloxcdbye7NLeMUa16lF15sMaonjR/QPIUJHZAO445Q8 GRHYuL9s0mpQiquZUGmDYblEAjM9LuSWjhQT0Vnej+Wm6oqwh8EKVqm48Ej9AmmmaO1g D5AJLxl0Fql3/jT79UVY6ZnxajvcbkRc/Y5fg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jTlkxgvyvijxj806GLUeUfEsfEuTYvQrxS0pd02ahWeH7k2PA8HIDHEAQ6rv9cHp3O jjVDrsD0h+orJzq8gCrLR73/NIKbBOeYBQCQkujZBak7m5neU6F7vZuMwKF5++a/BFxb 9oqkG6/H97FjAmi2s/g+denoaIVsNjn6N4AHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> References: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:55:28 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:55:30 +0000 (UTC) > > An audience may or may not come, but you will have done your duty to your > gift . . . to you muse . . . to the universe. > Well said. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 17:12:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2A3C18345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-13_08:2011-01-13,2011-01-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=6 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101130081 Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? From: Daniel Berkman In-reply-to: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:12:38 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <5077109E-8143-4ED7-906E-2D6F7E2DE24B@mac.com> References: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:12:52 +0000 (UTC) That was beautiful, Ted. Thank you! -Daniel Berkman On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:49 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Ahhhh . . . >=20 > In some ways, I am sure, this article is merely meant as an instance = of "tough love" from the author to a group of people he cares about and = identifies with. >=20 > He makes a number of valid points that seem to make practical sense. >=20 > However, there is a lot that he grossly misses about the nature of = "Art" as it has become in the last century or so (music included). >=20 > If you turn back the clock 150 years or so, and switch the focus from = music to painting, one can easily see that his attitude and assertions = are nearly identical to those of the established art system of the = "Salon" in Paris during the time of the Impressionists and = Post-Impressionists: Monet, Degas, Van Gogh, Gauguin, and many other = outsiders, et al. >=20 > Which is to say: "Learn to be a real professional artist like = so-and-so (like those being cranked out daily by the dues-paying system = of schools and established galleries and patrons) or go home, give up, = get a real job, get a life, get a clue." >=20 > Can any of us who love art imagine what it would be like if there had = never been a Vincent Van Gogh? >=20 > Sure the world would've gone on turning - but it would be a lot poorer = for it. >=20 > Does anybody really remember the contributions of any of the work or = contributions of any of the very talented folk who chose the = conservative "establishment art" route in that period? >=20 > Not many, I'd wager, remember or know of William Adolphe Beaugereau - = perhaps the greatest academically-trained and widely successful painter = from that era. >=20 > He was rich and famous during his own time, but now is largely = forgotten - or remembered only as a sort of historical footnote - sort = of like the Pat Boone of the early rock 'n' roll era, or the = manufactured and hyper-marketed boy-bands or blonde bimbette = singer-sluts of today will be. >=20 > So... >=20 > A lot of us are **NOT** in it for the money or the fame (or the sex = and drugs). >=20 > I don't imagine many of us are in it "for the ages" (Art History) = either - for that matter (LOL). >=20 > Some of us are even ill-equipped and ill-disposed to be performers, = per se . . . I know I certainly am. >=20 > But some of us are nevertheless "bitten by the bug" (or the muse) and = have a vision (or something) that drives us to create what we do. >=20 > For better or worse, some of us simply can't help it. >=20 > For whatever reason, the fickle universe has determined that (perhaps) = the greater creative gifts are often given to those who did not seek = them and would not venture to pursue them if they rightly had any choice = in the matter. >=20 > Fame and fortune may come to those who work very hard to be = professional at their "craft" like plumbers or butchers or chemists. >=20 > But fame, fortune and and "success" have very little sometimes to do = with Art. >=20 > They are irrelevant. >=20 > My encouragement to any of you who want to create Art is to keep on = doing it, no matter what, no matter who says "No." no matter who says = "Go home, give up, get a job, cut your hair, stand up straight, fly = right." etc., etc. >=20 > Or, no matter who (on the other hand) says "Get serious, pay your = dues, do it the way others have, compromise, join the union, do what = sells, learn to moon-walk, play to the masses." >=20 > Keep doing what you passion drives you to do - what has meaning for = you and you alone. >=20 > An audience may or may not come, but you will have done your duty to = your gift . . . to you muse . . . to the universe. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Ted >=20 >=20 > On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >=20 >> An interesting article >>=20 >> = http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/dont-quit-your-second-day-job/?utm_s= ource=3DDIYNews&utm_medium=3DEmail&utm_campaign=3D011211 >>=20 >> any comments? >> Luis >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 17:13:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DB5318345F; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=UC2TzZrka4imnrXrJ1uiOb0DUtxzHZSbwxkRoiL6yUM=; b=t46I50wtpntHNkDwnYDQxr0Bifs/QHLh41RYw2OZXJI4E6v+AaUA1oyagGD37yI9Uz 8qkZLOCPF2rMuRrGRV0DC1dPOixKTA7wUA7gpG0c+8oLS4ajDW1UKbU73BoMx99ufuDn 43/m3l32sCUowlGmZOGX4CDFHCNgbb2Uui5Ng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=VbH3/Jy+p2Aw7p/e+FgAEnDgL5yqX3KGRd3IqJdoprSJKauz/1xzWuh5/UIabZeYGH JQLoqZwbeHfnP0cu+nJtAlF5peaK8Bba4UOXWKSXul+SaKNO4xoJ6r7N2F3l+CVriT+c 6+rtVebKGfnVu/9S31UbSPr8k7oHmG4cqYgs4= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:13:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: good luck to Bob and all on the LP2 Launch at NAMM today! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c594dada0ece0499bd707c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:13:49 +0000 (UTC) --001636c594dada0ece0499bd707c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Much success to you Bob, and to Rick and Bill and all who are close and supporting the new product! Wish I could be there to try it out and have a go. (as I'm sure many of us wish) Cheers, Todd --001636c594dada0ece0499bd707c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Much success to you Bob, and to Rick and Bill and all who are close and sup= porting the new product! =A0

Wish I could be there to tr= y it out and have a go. =A0(as I'm sure many of us wish)

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Cheers,=A0

Todd



--001636c594dada0ece0499bd707c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 17:57:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 935F918347B; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BTYssCWfe1lXesm2l5K8pNjPZmO7AOARHoIdffrQHPs=; b=abD2M1nK2tLoCFXoMRAhzcxjvsqIOyqhEkphnrdNbf1iuP6OatIMVBEPwb/BMiaIBQ rFSTe/QVbU308XkCCvIK3RkpAzbL6LLylH4BFNgfaQTtaWqpGf8XwPuo0E9uB5WeQa9s uOKIgNydEbHNo2I5TanPhwuRDgmXNix8xaf+I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jTQ24O0X11I8zl11ilazegnJX4uCFIge28O3/mTopmYBr6Zdr7Me8pb3NxdhxgfX/S i9QRWfr9bAAsCGTlmy4xSY3gLyfkAO7ty7f3ZbPTT27Zb/0DTpmW1o0RotwnMja5JU4m yJ5GY8hRwXUk3yoJ3TDque0yYC0RBRLbHnBT0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> References: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:57:45 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Frankly, the article itself has about the level of authority and coherence of an internet forum post - he just happens to work at CD Baby and posted it there. I think he makes a few good points: 1) That skilled musicians who "deserve to be pros" are subject to the law of supply and demand. 2) That "brilliantly creative bands should stay in the business longer to practice their great ideas until we don't have to guess the intent". Let's start on the second one, because at first glance it might sound like he's being an ass. I think it's totally healthy for musicians and bands to develop their talents in public - through live shows, locally-released CDs and web releases (on the band's page or a bandcamp page). However, there are some dangers to releasing music to wide internet distribution (Itunes, IODA, allmusic.com, etc.). The problem with the latter is that if a few years down the road, you feel that the album represents an amateur version of yourself, it's not easy to remove that album from the world wide web. Also, the first splash you make in the wide internet might be the one in which many of the internet reviewers (such as allmusic.com) form their opinion about what kind of musician you are. Once that opinion is formed, it's very hard to shake. I sometimes feel I made that mistake in releasing "Music at 1/2 Speed" to the www as my first release. Now on many music websites, my "similar bands" and "music styles" are based on that cd rather than my current work. Back on the supply and demand thing, there are very very few musicians who can make a living doing a style of music with a niche appeal (as opposed to a mass appeal). Tom Waits and Bjork are two of them, though both started out doing music that was more mass appeal. Others can pull it off by spending as much time promoting their music to new audiences as making music. Most of my close musical friends have musical day jobs that sustain them - they teach music at a college, or they work in the audio department for a software/video game company. Lastly, even some musicians who are able to go pro find that their niche remains in mass appeal for only a few years, then they need to get a day job again. For example, in the early 2000s, some members of the Anticon hip hop collective were able to go pro, but I imagine many of them are in day jobs now. So are many of the rock singers and musicians who had pretty big hits in the 80s. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 17:57:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B27EF183480; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1748 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:57:53 UTC Message-ID: <4D2F3651.4050300@virgin.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:28:49 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: Dave Draper , dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 10.0.1191 [1435/3376] X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:57:53 +0000 (UTC) On 19:59, Louie Angulo wrote: > An interesting article > > http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/dont-quit-your-second-day-job/?utm_source=DIYNews&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=011211 > > any comments? > Luis OK, just my 2cents' worth..... "ANYONE can make art today"? Depends what you call art..... If you're good technically, you can make a living based on music. Like teaching, session work & so on. But many musos that do this end up with the money need overtaking their love of the creative need, & doing very little music for its own sake. The resulting cynicism can be corrosive... Or you can continue doing your own thing ("...the thing is to put a motor in yourself..." - FZ) and starve; or you get a second job so's you can carry on doing your own thing. Most 'successful' (& I use the term advisedly!) musicians that I know of (whether especially talented or not) have stuck stubbornly at being 'artists', & nothing else. Come what may. Or you can (& I quote again from uncle Frank...) "..hock your imaginary guitar & get a good job..." :) Me? I've made a career out of living on very little money, subsidised with making bookshelves, beds, tables, kitchens, anything in wood, to support my music (when I wasn't earning any money from it). Result? RSI, arthritus, back pain etc, etc, but I'm still doing the music I want to, not commercial s**t, even if no-one wants to listen! There is no universal answer; it's a personal choice (with all the consequences) until some idealistic political enlightenment takes place.....waiting, still waiting,... Dave ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3376 - Release Date: 01/12/11 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 18:18:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35BA818345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wdb3SKEsK6ul4wn+1+MinRIXA1ovvgFTPwYbJKNCDSg=; b=F7U0gpSNEwd7fuPe27ffA6veUzBpN0VTQa42UwQ/kgENWDJcphAH9fNDaJT2sufeCs J2k9/jdvTtu0D4BS9RnuwIAJw1bXuVn3fSYtF1xNL0OzDHhIahXA+SXFt1f4uluazTqS uO86nHvDQfwh+YJOkk8VNCXPWbLfx4qEQwB9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=smaeWUn3kzc7ayGs9q7VB1/90Ur2Cx7OXK292exvyVocJZeUP9axTnUT+RhTFDNFF/ 7yjERCXob4FF59m410ns7bOpSWj8e6mUihWuUYrvDfJlrgQD4mPBWtgAy+z4TqBkwXLs fS0Sci0H/TGxVuW8/O56Y2tt1Ec0a66dJ9ysY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:18:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: good luck to Bob and all on the LP2 Launch at NAMM today! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:18:49 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:13 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > Much success to you Bob, and to Rick and Bill and all who are close and > supporting the new product! > Wish I could be there to try it out and have a go. =C2=A0(as I'm sure man= y of us > wish) > Cheers, > Todd Chiming in here: Break Legs Walker Brothers & Bob 2!!!! I'll be swooping the net for NAMM cam uploads. Happy Tap Dancing (on the LP2 carpet) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 18:29:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ABE018345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <6A52A4DC-2942-4387-A387-343D3F70C8B9@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: NAMM Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:29:12 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:29:14 +0000 (UTC) I'll be at NAMM on Saturday (and performing at the Hilton at 8am), I'll try and find Bob and the LP2! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 18:31:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07F1918345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:31:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6mPuiEwy9TvtqPz/vp/viRjLKArl8WIX2ffIqAtb+40=; b=p+WKXXrFg8/tEGvv3HXSFNs1Rb8sx9R/wDgiq6rwlkGz+m0d8HnSeyI23u5pbhKYAJ 3tNZCqwurj9htPTEYDM5aEvhSXeAfxxqFDWtK19+pB2KV2htuybHXNDtEE4W415NLMCm gN42iC5i1w6kx8QKiXOaSc7r3Pl1JgJU8X+Uo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OCiAFTX80er2klYBzj4yjutHHxSZeBlLVzW5Gzg5OwdSbTVqbzyUHl3hObe4DSVmzl zwOvtL08PKN10sTu2xoer4+Rp1gK1+zLC5g4P56EnYyfhU5rUZd774cyw68x7j9+g4Sm 66PvR9XMA14YY2WFppE4ioBYyX28nndQARx/Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:31:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:31:45 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > 2) That "brilliantly creative bands should stay in the business longer > to practice their great ideas until we don't have to guess the > intent". Is this a typo? As I remember the article "stay in the business" originally was "stay the basement". Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 19:46:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53FA418345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:46:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bEdfy/8n5eZc4xWDJ4xVObRmEX03wfUeUjJ3CPdyWdg=; b=jXsMU//ZcarzhxUZVMPdLPujgIfI+m6/RsN/7x9RPHaN4VyuJYRLEPDAeMMfbugj0c S9XN9uttY/T8e9XF+9iEv5jzut2tmTKNMLppyGk9IbTN4Ws8etkg7P1lK/YZSAAKgp9o vFhpR7XfNmI7deuCYqVdDwa3HXjF4ANe3b+CI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UJ3kFeKTTwJAjJf2LEHb9+XBV0Y+ylRHnqCN9Tks+tixJlnp+5RP8kZfzVa7tAFaTu 32VI90dVYJVajQr51h3pvWaacd+Ia0ZKooaUL1bmmLHwUwTGQITuD86cY8a4agS+wmzx OkbhCxNcV0nKrgcgfoW/XKH+sa8BNwZMKMhy4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:46:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:46:45 +0000 (UTC) And do check the FCB group; the developer of iFCB is on there a lot... http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:06 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > I tried Parrallels once, didnt work well enough for me, If I ever REALLY > need to do a Windows thing, Ill do the Windows partition thing... > But its good to hear that iFCB is OK, Ill prob buy the firmware, thanks f= or > all the advice guys... > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Sylvain Poitras > wrote: >> >> You know, there are ways of running windows software in OS X. =A0I use >> WineBottler (free) for a couple apps and it works great. =A0In fact, >> I've recently winebottled a bunch of my old windows games. =A0They >> actually run better this way then when I load them up in my windows 7 >> partition (another option if you have a spare windows licence >> collecting dust). >> >> have a look here to get started : >> >> >> http://lifehacker.com/5521308/how-to-seamlessly-run-that-one-windows-app= -you-need-on-a-mac >> >> Sylvain >> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Dennis Moser >> wrote: >> > Mark, >> > >> > Have you also posted this to the FCB Yahoo group? Lots of UNO users >> > AND non-UNO users over there. iFCB works just fine on the Mac, but >> > yes, you will need to update your firmware as you already know. And >> > the upgrade is definitely cheaper than a new FCB or Gordius. >> > >> > I don't use the UNO chip, so I'm not sure about any native Mac editors >> > for use with it...but as I said, the FCB group should have the >> > information. >> > >> > Good luck! >> > >> > Dennis >> > >> > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> > http://audiozoloft.com >> > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:05 AM, mark francombe >> > wrote: >> >> Sorry I thought I made it clear.. I have a VERY OLD FCB... with >> >> firmware 1.0 >> >> definately no UNO chip. I know that iFCB dont work with 1.0 but it wi= ll >> >> with >> >> 2.0 . In dont think I need UNO chip unless I can edit on a mac.. Brun= o >> >> say >> >> it works well... >> >> >> >> As for Softstep Luis... I really want it to succeed, so I have not >> >> trumpeted >> >> my decision on that. I sent it back. Not based on the flaky software,= I >> >> think that will be ok in the long run. I didnt like the feel of the >> >> buttons. >> >> I discovered that I NEED a physical CLICK. I suggest they put a tiny >> >> Solenoid on the pedal. to "fake" some feeling of a click... >> >> >> >> So Im back to the FCB, a few switches are dodgy.. I may open it up an= d >> >> fix >> >> it.. but Im also waiting for to afford Gordius.. and for them to >> >> release mac >> >> software too.. in the pipe I think... >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Louie Angulo >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> guys keep misleading Mark! >> >>> the iFCB will work on a Mac but it will not work with the UnO chip >> >>> mounted on the FCB >> >>> the answer is quite clear under the FAQ >> >>> >> >>> question: I use an Intel-Mac and this application is too slow to be >> >>> used. >> >>> answer:Very sorry about this. There is no immediate solution. Here a= re >> >>> some dissapointing suggestions: >> >>> >> >>> =A0 =A0* Run Windows on your Mac >> >>> =A0 =A0* Go back to using original Behringer fimware. You can then u= se >> >>> iFCB >> >>> >> >>> dont even try it,ive tried dowloading mandolane etc. but wont work >> >>> properly >> >>> quite disapointing... >> >>> Luis >> >>> P.S. hey Mark i thoguth you have gotten the Softstep whats the crack >> >>> now? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, mark francombe >> >>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Great to hear Bruno... I might consider upgrading my firmware (If = it >> >>> > doesnt >> >>> > cost more than a new FCB... ha ha) I checked the software, and it >> >>> > looked >> >>> > great... but didnt work on my FCB.. and it toook a while before I >> >>> > rad >> >>> > the >> >>> > manual... "...doesnt work on old firmware or INO chip") >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > cheers for the feedback >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Mark >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld >> >>> > >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> The iFCB things works well. Nice UI and nice support from the guy= . >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > mark francombe >> >>> > www.markfrancombe.com >> >>> > www.ordoabkhao.com >> >>> > twitter @markfrancombe >> >>> > http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> >>> > http://www.looop.no >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> mark francombe >> >> www.markfrancombe.com >> >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> >> twitter @markfrancombe >> >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> >> http://www.looop.no >> >> >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 19:55:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E278518345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/efKXpRS11EbAA1uiCAdos/s9h6QpnG9X1XoJebHNno=; b=RsCrgjStHM814P7d4OPvnsOXDsskFrjguPlNcXpYbm0/pgcOGmNoilYmxQxACdYRc8 +9Bg9sc1/XTRP9QVV9wcKhQ2I74KwFTD7bPlaLeX1wy0vgmBPjZflJpDFc4pJMUTVVxL 03j38av5GxjogiiqfrFeFAVrqNwXym4dEsAxA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=B1ZFCfkd/W/0k9/O//g8k80PvTesk/4BSulofCwXPUrV7BFO9jU8VtxBpyiuZA4FAj vTnlVtnN94RFZvwEV+LdtSwmnhrx9gZ++h8ugzgmUNilP2NSX1KzQWxjEmdh/xl1UnPr D1nJlEr1I4xq6mmJ4/FkJt6H10NiU2vmvgDHQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:55:24 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Yes, it was typo. Thanks for the clarification! On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: >> 2) That "brilliantly creative bands should stay in the business longer >> to practice their great ideas until we don't have to guess the >> intent". > > Is this a typo? > As I remember the article "stay in the business" originally was "stay > the basement". > > Per > > -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 20:15:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C50518345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=SDK-ZFq9fgsA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=lLE42MQObLdI8Ir5QPoA:9 a=Vaq5-wh1hH5IpvcwG8kA:7 a=sU_MyLqXaPGmMe3Y2ZoCM2-ComIA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:15:03 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <534615073.4290688.1294949706876.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Daniel Berkman, Looping Gravikordist (was Re: should musicians have a second job?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 43 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <1fQdjB.A.lcD.M11LNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:15:08 +0000 (UTC) BTW, Daniel, thank YOU for your wonderful music. I attended Y2KX this past October and saw your presentation at the=20 little Namaste teahouse one evening and was absolutely compelled to by=20 the CD afterwards. It's great listening still. Keep it up...the universe needs more like you. Best, Ted On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Daniel Berkman wrote: > That was beautiful, Ted. Thank you! > > -Daniel Berkman > > > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:49 AM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrote: > >> Ahhhh . . . >> >> In some ways, I am sure, this article is merely meant as an instance=20 >> of "tough love" from the author to a group of people he cares about=20 >> and identifies with. >> >> He makes a number of valid points that seem to make practical sense. >> >> However, there is a lot that he grossly misses about the nature of=20 >> "Art" as it has become in the last century or so (music included). >> >> If you turn back the clock 150 years or so, and switch the focus from=20 >> music to painting, one can easily see that his attitude and=20 >> assertions are nearly identical to those of the established art=20 >> system of the "Salon" in Paris during the time of the Impressionists=20 >> and Post-Impressionists: Monet, Degas, Van Gogh, Gauguin, and many=20 >> other outsiders, et al. >> >> Which is to say: "Learn to be a real professional artist like=20 >> so-and-so (like those being cranked out daily by the dues-paying=20 >> system of schools and established galleries and patrons) or go home,=20 >> give up, get a real job, get a life, get a clue." >> >> Can any of us who love art imagine what it would be like if there had=20 >> never been a Vincent Van Gogh? >> >> Sure the world would've gone on turning - but it would be a lot=20 >> poorer for it. >> >> Does anybody really remember the contributions of any of the work or=20 >> contributions of any of the very talented folk who chose the=20 >> conservative "establishment art" route in that period? >> >> Not many, I'd wager, remember or know of William Adolphe Beaugereau -=20 >> perhaps the greatest academically-trained and widely successful=20 >> painter from that era. >> >> He was rich and famous during his own time, but now is largely=20 >> forgotten - or remembered only as a sort of historical footnote -=20 >> sort of like the Pat Boone of the early rock 'n' roll era, or the=20 >> manufactured and hyper-marketed boy-bands or blonde bimbette=20 >> singer-sluts of today will be. >> >> So... >> >> A lot of us are **NOT** in it for the money or the fame (or the sex=20 >> and drugs). >> >> I don't imagine many of us are in it "for the ages" (Art History)=20 >> either - for that matter (LOL). >> >> Some of us are even ill-equipped and ill-disposed to be performers,=20 >> per se . . . I know I certainly am. >> >> But some of us are nevertheless "bitten by the bug" (or the muse) and=20 >> have a vision (or something) that drives us to create what we do. >> >> For better or worse, some of us simply can't help it. >> >> For whatever reason, the fickle universe has determined that=20 >> (perhaps) the greater creative gifts are often given to those who did=20 >> not seek them and would not venture to pursue them if they rightly=20 >> had any choice in the matter. >> >> Fame and fortune may come to those who work very hard to be=20 >> professional at their "craft" like plumbers or butchers or chemists. >> >> But fame, fortune and and "success" have very little sometimes to do=20 >> with Art. >> >> They are irrelevant. >> >> My encouragement to any of you who want to create Art is to keep on=20 >> doing it, no matter what, no matter who says "No." no matter who says=20 >> "Go home, give up, get a job, cut your hair, stand up straight, fly=20 >> right." etc., etc. >> >> Or, no matter who (on the other hand) says "Get serious, pay your=20 >> dues, do it the way others have, compromise, join the union, do what=20 >> sells, learn to moon-walk, play to the masses." >> >> Keep doing what you passion drives you to do - what has meaning for=20 >> you and you alone. >> >> An audience may or may not come, but you will have done your duty to=20 >> your gift . . . to you muse . . . to the universe. >> >> Best, >> >> Ted >> >> >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >> >>> An interesting article >>> >>>=20 >>> http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/dont-quit-your-second-day-job/?ut= m_source=3DDIYNews&utm_medium=3DEmail&utm_campaign=3D011211 >>> >>> any comments? >>> Luis >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 20:32:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CA0B18345B; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-13_09:2011-01-13,2011-01-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=6 phishscore=0 bulkscore=2 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101130130 Subject: Re: Daniel Berkman, Looping Gravikordist (was Re: should musicians have a second job?) From: Daniel Berkman In-reply-to: <534615073.4290688.1294949706876.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:32:05 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <0612B55A-561E-4D0F-BE89-090E2BCE1D0B@mac.com> References: <534615073.4290688.1294949706876.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:32:10 +0000 (UTC) You made my day. : ) -Daniel On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:15 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > BTW, >=20 > Daniel, thank YOU for your wonderful music. >=20 > I attended Y2KX this past October and saw your presentation at the = little Namaste teahouse one evening and was absolutely compelled to by = the CD afterwards. >=20 > It's great listening still. >=20 > Keep it up...the universe needs more like you. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Ted >=20 > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Daniel Berkman wrote: >=20 >> That was beautiful, Ted. Thank you! >>=20 >> -Daniel Berkman >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:49 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >>=20 >>> Ahhhh . . . >>>=20 >>> In some ways, I am sure, this article is merely meant as an instance = of "tough love" from the author to a group of people he cares about and = identifies with. >>>=20 >>> He makes a number of valid points that seem to make practical sense. >>>=20 >>> However, there is a lot that he grossly misses about the nature of = "Art" as it has become in the last century or so (music included). >>>=20 >>> If you turn back the clock 150 years or so, and switch the focus = from music to painting, one can easily see that his attitude and = assertions are nearly identical to those of the established art system = of the "Salon" in Paris during the time of the Impressionists and = Post-Impressionists: Monet, Degas, Van Gogh, Gauguin, and many other = outsiders, et al. >>>=20 >>> Which is to say: "Learn to be a real professional artist like = so-and-so (like those being cranked out daily by the dues-paying system = of schools and established galleries and patrons) or go home, give up, = get a real job, get a life, get a clue." >>>=20 >>> Can any of us who love art imagine what it would be like if there = had never been a Vincent Van Gogh? >>>=20 >>> Sure the world would've gone on turning - but it would be a lot = poorer for it. >>>=20 >>> Does anybody really remember the contributions of any of the work or = contributions of any of the very talented folk who chose the = conservative "establishment art" route in that period? >>>=20 >>> Not many, I'd wager, remember or know of William Adolphe Beaugereau = - perhaps the greatest academically-trained and widely successful = painter from that era. >>>=20 >>> He was rich and famous during his own time, but now is largely = forgotten - or remembered only as a sort of historical footnote - sort = of like the Pat Boone of the early rock 'n' roll era, or the = manufactured and hyper-marketed boy-bands or blonde bimbette = singer-sluts of today will be. >>>=20 >>> So... >>>=20 >>> A lot of us are **NOT** in it for the money or the fame (or the sex = and drugs). >>>=20 >>> I don't imagine many of us are in it "for the ages" (Art History) = either - for that matter (LOL). >>>=20 >>> Some of us are even ill-equipped and ill-disposed to be performers, = per se . . . I know I certainly am. >>>=20 >>> But some of us are nevertheless "bitten by the bug" (or the muse) = and have a vision (or something) that drives us to create what we do. >>>=20 >>> For better or worse, some of us simply can't help it. >>>=20 >>> For whatever reason, the fickle universe has determined that = (perhaps) the greater creative gifts are often given to those who did = not seek them and would not venture to pursue them if they rightly had = any choice in the matter. >>>=20 >>> Fame and fortune may come to those who work very hard to be = professional at their "craft" like plumbers or butchers or chemists. >>>=20 >>> But fame, fortune and and "success" have very little sometimes to do = with Art. >>>=20 >>> They are irrelevant. >>>=20 >>> My encouragement to any of you who want to create Art is to keep on = doing it, no matter what, no matter who says "No." no matter who says = "Go home, give up, get a job, cut your hair, stand up straight, fly = right." etc., etc. >>>=20 >>> Or, no matter who (on the other hand) says "Get serious, pay your = dues, do it the way others have, compromise, join the union, do what = sells, learn to moon-walk, play to the masses." >>>=20 >>> Keep doing what you passion drives you to do - what has meaning for = you and you alone. >>>=20 >>> An audience may or may not come, but you will have done your duty to = your gift . . . to you muse . . . to the universe. >>>=20 >>> Best, >>>=20 >>> Ted >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >>>=20 >>>> An interesting article >>>>=20 >>>> = http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/dont-quit-your-second-day-job/?utm_s= ource=3DDIYNews&utm_medium=3DEmail&utm_campaign=3D011211 >>>>=20 >>>> any comments? >>>> Luis >>>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 21:00:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBC9718345A; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3/t4J1GvWu0EEVagHegoqRKhkrCxHmtnqX2nIcm7/A4= c=1 sm=1 a=orNh4HE0mLIA:10 a=+oOqxtZ+ovgfj2I0snQLPg==:17 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=OT3O6O8lAAAA:8 a=kGL4f-nDAAAA:20 a=2Fcs6PlnTsjWptesaoUA:9 a=EODZkGjGpoRwOaU5U6BHZ-GVSYIA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=OSRHaICc_9e9xVmKZpkA:9 a=ytGr5PharykI10D6rBUA:7 a=77ziR3RqghKK8IwaKnEeSDceRsQA:4 a=+oOqxtZ+ovgfj2I0snQLPg==:117 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-965107087 Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:00:03 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:00:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9-965107087 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii it's threads like this that keep me coming back to the trough of the = loopers! all well spoken. a hat tip to Ted for divine liftoff. R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Yes, it was typo. Thanks for the clarification! >=20 > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Per Boysen = wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Matt Davignon = wrote: >>> 2) That "brilliantly creative bands should stay in the business = longer >>> to practice their great ideas until we don't have to guess the >>> intent". >>=20 >> Is this a typo? >> As I remember the article "stay in the business" originally was "stay >> the basement". >>=20 >> Per >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >=20 --Apple-Mail-9-965107087 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii it's = threads like this that keep me coming back to the trough of the loopers! =  all well spoken.  a hat tip to Ted for divine = liftoff.

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On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Matt Davignon = wrote:

Yes, it was typo. Thanks for the = clarification!

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:57 PM, = Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> = wrote:
2) That "brilliantly creative bands should stay in the = business longer
to practice their great ideas = until we don't have to guess = the
intent".

Is this a = typo?
As I remember the = article "stay in the business" originally was = "stay
the = basement".

Per





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Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.r= ibosomemusic.com
Rigs! = www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


= --Apple-Mail-9-965107087-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 21:24:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5173818345D; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=orNh4HE0mLIA:10 a=UIp8ti2-PUpk1OurjTgA:9 a=W0V9ZaQPEBv1kmJZbZgA:7 a=xE_bQT_qa5YdC_iYxASalPNXskgA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=sbpaYRzOVw6GHALfTMoA:9 a=4PskzyhUj2keC57fTQMA:7 a=Xke6rMWOu7f1VWVGZd7j8RyV21UA:4 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:24:16 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1845588563.4305678.1294953859145.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4305674_1329761810.1294953856659" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 43 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:24:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4305674_1329761810.1294953856659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If I might be my worst own devil's advocate here for a moment and shed a meagre lumen or two on the flip side of the pursuit of "Art" it as it were, I have these contradicory and conflicting thoughts to throw out to you all as well. When we get to where we're going as a civilization, will we know how to simply be? If we have so completely set our highest personal and creative goals to be iconoclasts, rebels, individuals, mavericks, self-defined, self-actualized and self-created whatevers - constantly pushing against all known boundaries and any sense of norm or tabu - what will happen when we come to a time that is entirely without them? Will that be heaven? Or will that be hell? Of what use will be concepts like, empathy, kindness, human warmth, or decency in such a world? Indeed, what will be especially human about it at all, except probably the advanced technolgy? These are the things that I think about when I think about what I think (LOL). Happy trails! Ted ------=_Part_4305674_1329761810.1294953856659 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
If I might be my worst own devil's advocate = here for a moment and shed a meagre lumen or two on the flip side of the pu= rsuit of "Art" it as it were, I have these contradicory and confl= icting thoughts to throw out to you all as well.
When we get to where we're going as = a civilization, will we know how to simply be? If we have so completely set= our highest personal and creative goals to be iconoclasts, rebels, individ= uals, mavericks, self-defined, self-actualized and self-created whatevers -= constantly pushing against all known boundaries and any sense of norm or t= abu - what will happen when we come to a time that is entirely without them= ? Will that be heaven? Or will that be hell? Of what use will be concepts l= ike, empathy, kindness, human warmth, or decency in such a world? Indeed, w= hat will be especially human about it at all, except probably the advanced = technolgy?

These are the things that I think about when I think about what I think (= LOL).

Happ= y trails!

Ted
------=_Part_4305674_1329761810.1294953856659-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 22:24:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90E2618345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2F7BA4.6020308@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:24:36 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: todd reynolds CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: good luck to Bob and all on the LP2 Launch at NAMM today! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:24:47 +0000 (UTC) *On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote:* > *Much success to you Bob, and to Rick and Bill and all who are close > and supporting the new product! * > * > * > *Wish I could be there to try it out and have a go. (as I'm sure many > of us wish)* > > That's so nice of you, Todd. Thanks a lot. I was rockin' the prototype last night and it is really a powerful piece of kit for such a relatively low price. Now to get over this damned flu. I feel like a bus hit me. I hope I'm feeling better in 48 hours when the antibiotics are supposed to kick in. I finally broke down, went to my western doctor and got them prescribed. I hate taking antibiotics and avoid them like the plague unless I'm really losing to an infection as I have this past week. I tried lots of sleep, lots of fluids, lots of chinese herbs, no sugar, no alchohol but this one just got to me. See you all down at NAMM at the Looperlative booth hopefully. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 22:27:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46BE918345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2F7C5C.6070005@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:27:40 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zoe Keating CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NAMM References: <6A52A4DC-2942-4387-A387-343D3F70C8B9@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <6A52A4DC-2942-4387-A387-343D3F70C8B9@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:27:47 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > I'll be at NAMM on Saturday (and performing at the Hilton at 8am), > I'll try and find Bob and the LP2! Hope to run into you, Zoe. I'll be demoing, god willing, on Saturday and Sunday at LP's booth. And wow, 8 a.m. gig at the Hilton.............it reminds me of my gigs with the Disney children's artist Linda Arnold. I'd get a whopping 2 or3 hours of sleep for those gigs. Brutal! Play well, though I know you don't need that encouragement. You'll slay them! rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 22:28:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEDE818345F; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2F7C4E.5040901@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:27:26 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:28:17 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on the Finnish band Nemesis. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Live Archive Volume 2" which is self-released. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jan Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 22:29:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05F5D18345E; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=+pg+jE1aPlB+k09PWCke6gNVpKNGk88DtBXv4XuzKkE=; b=H7fabg2a+UgfLaR8Ak+Q07NJ/8eJNTAdxVWbKjD4swe+K6EIXJo1P7M2EMQP/W1TCG z8NTO9uF+Ui7ZnBHQOmrdUP0Se0kCZicy6IeFfXddVdgY1ylTsTBdkED2rApnvd5cPPh tPCLJ6U0Agme5N2PWkaUc5QP1FnBMns5Ip7Yw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :x-priority:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type :mime-version; b=uvM2/iN9633Q2tkT06aANPk2SNc9koUUyrhPojcEUCYIMSugSjHIod+wKy84Xg8dS0 jE/NA84z4HXsdbAvPDa+b4vJ97MGEgKw5bjB2+gfwov4bDsWy4h7hYq0L4ckFyEX/ObN Us+JSbiyERaCAKub7MZICXVAmcD4/FSTiKU/E= X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1453487615 Message-ID:<1453487615-1294957618-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-902907256-@bda2841.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Reply-To: cnovey@gmail.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal Subject: Re: good luck to Bob and all on the LP2 Launch at NAMM today! 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References: <534615073.4290688.1294949706876.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> In-Reply-To: <534615073.4290688.1294949706876.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:33:03 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: > I attended Y2KX this past October and saw your presentation at the > little Namaste teahouse one evening and was absolutely compelled to by > the CD afterwards. Yes, a powerful second to that sentiment, Ted. Daniel's CD is one of the most interesting and sophisticated live looping CDs I've ever heard. Not only is his playing (and way of thinking about playing) the Gravichord very fascinating (using technology like whammy pitch pedals to bring the instrument into the pedal guitar steel paradigm) but the drum computer programming and the very, very sophisticated aesthetic in the programming of the backing abstract electronica tracks is really compelling. I kept having 'aha' moments listening to it for the first time. This CD is beautiful, melodically and glitchy and edgy in the best of cutting edge electronic ways. I've listened to it over and over since I got it and that's the proof in the pudding as they say. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 22:39:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D7A4183454; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AoTHq7nq3KpWHk8FS7u3EgfiquWh6lwiALrxYnTyLcs=; b=jbGxhdHYQ+cKmFOVYXaNnCrKcXOl+zGYZHSvoCXXmDfUaIW/dVWqUR28wh/bUST0kg 1dsXexPEvVSh0QjM+m0h61yawB7MsgPEi+VsSmBD6e6wRfISlldn3ITw5+4m85O8T7N/ e/EMPheoaM1jIxBtshmks6w6tfO8F9FBlqXjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ArR7MkzvuUipyHBK3nThINftjNkeUiqjOiP03ClLnOokSqFfkSv6YQnTbIqOhN+bhe XvaYANg92FlFNvWwRLTMnb6j3vHuc5F1C2OwZ7GH2pvSaFO3pEyQz+nZW/r/0QYT7xXv J5aMpxi5ca5PJQReMd37p+Y2JAiMOVEAUx4NA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <74F5A91E-E041-447D-988D-050F107F7DFC@charter.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:39:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636eef32faa77780499c1febf Resent-Message-ID: <_ohteC.A.P-G.083LNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:39:48 +0000 (UTC) --001636eef32faa77780499c1febf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's hard to look at this objectively but as many have pointed out at least for those here in the States where we don't have socialized medicine, unles= s we are single and in a marriage that possibly our mate has a regular gig an= d can live with the other mate bringing in a range of income among other issues, it's just an impossible road to hold in this day/age in my opinion. I think there was a time when I first decided that maybe there was an optio= n for me to earn my keep with it but I really believe not to be dark but really believe those days have gone. Others have stated the things I might say better so I won't wax on. I thin= k this is a tender subject on a personal level to all of us 'here' as well as just about any artist/musician/creative soul I've known. It's like the lin= e in one of the Power Ranger movies that I saw when my kids were younger. They have gone to a strange planet trying to rescue one of their own. They are met by a 'good witch' who tells them that the road is paved with many who have tried and failed at the task before them and beyond their quest. Though I've danced with the desire ever since college, I think I only recently finally as a Will Ackerman song title from one of his best moments said, 'The Moment In Which You Must Finally Let Go of the Tether which has Held Your Hopes Airbourn' which for me relates to a feeling over the last year but truthfully probably since about 2006 as I was coming into this community, let go of the 'carrot'. The blessing in that is the other 'war= m and fuzzy' one door closes, another opens thing and on a level from a creative standpoint I think I can say it did in that the music that I've been part of whether this community, another called ImprovFriday, the Chinapainting project with friend Daryl who brought me in to this community and just a feeling that more and more anything I create is going to be probably 'for me' and these days I believe that's a good thing. In recent months I've become very charged about a new interest that I hope will pave = a way for me sometime out of Corp America (my day gig) albeit at 55, that wil= l happen all on it's own in soon coming years. Man much too waxing, closing this I will say the opening para of the articl= e I thought was a positive that being that the author is on a level asking ou= r society to own the path of a musician on the same level that they 'respect' and 'pay' a doctor, lawyer, carpenter, as we used to say in Arkansas, 'Church of Christ preacher' or any other 'normal' line of adult work. It's an honorable request. Peace out as Mr D says... Jim On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Matt Davignon wrot= e: > Yes, it was typo. Thanks for the clarification! > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Matt Davignon > wrote: > >> 2) That "brilliantly creative bands should stay in the business longer > >> to practice their great ideas until we don't have to guess the > >> intent". > > > > Is this a typo? > > As I remember the article "stay in the business" originally was "stay > > the basement". > > > > Per > > > > > > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001636eef32faa77780499c1febf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's hard to look at this objectively but as many have pointed out at l= east for those here in the States where we don't have socialized medici= ne, unless we are single and in a marriage that possibly our mate has a reg= ular gig and can live with the other mate bringing in a range of income amo= ng other issues, it's just an impossible road to hold in this day/age i= n my opinion.=A0 I think there was a time when I first decided that maybe t= here was an option for me to earn my keep with it but I really believe not = to be dark but really believe those days have gone.
=A0
Others have stated the things I might say better so I won't wax = on.=A0 I think this is a tender subject on a personal level to all of us &#= 39;here' as well as just about any artist/musician/creative soul I'= ve known.=A0 It's like the line in one of the Power Ranger movies that = I saw when my kids were younger.=A0 They have gone to a strange planet tryi= ng to rescue one of their own.=A0 They are met by a 'good witch' wh= o tells them that the road is paved with many who have tried and failed at = the task before them and beyond their quest.

Though I've danced with the desire ever since college, I think I on= ly recently finally as a Will Ackerman song title from one of his best mome= nts said, 'The Moment In Which You Must Finally Let Go of the Tether wh= ich has Held Your Hopes Airbourn' which for me relates to a feeling ove= r the last year but truthfully probably since about 2006 as I was coming in= to this community, let go of=A0 the 'carrot'.=A0 The blessing in th= at is the other 'warm and fuzzy' one door closes, another opens thi= ng and on a level from a creative standpoint I think I can say it did in th= at the music that I've been part of whether this community, another cal= led ImprovFriday, the Chinapainting project with friend Daryl who brought m= e in to this community and just a feeling that more and more anything I cre= ate is going to be probably 'for me' and these days I believe that&= #39;s a good thing.=A0 In recent months I've become very charged about = a new interest that I hope will pave a way for me sometime out of Corp Amer= ica (my day gig) albeit at 55, that will happen all on it's own in soon= coming years.

Man much too waxing, closing this I will say the opening para of the ar= ticle I thought was a positive that being that the author is on a level ask= ing our society to own the path of a musician on the same level that they &= #39;respect' and 'pay' a doctor, lawyer, carpenter, as we used = to say in Arkansas, 'Church of Christ preacher' or any other 'n= ormal' line of adult work.=A0 It's an honorable request.

Peace out as Mr D says...

Jim

= On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Yes, it was typo. Thanks for the clarification!

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wro= te:
>> 2) That "brilliantly creative bands should stay in the busine= ss longer
>> to practice their great ideas until we don't have to guess the=
>> intent".
>
> Is this a typo?
> As I remember the article "stay in the business" originally = was "stay
> the basement".
>
> Per
>
>



--



--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 23:07:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C06FB18347F; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:07:24 UTC From: PIM Contact Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-972344176 Subject: RC-50 and sucking at syncing and some sucky customer service to boot Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:00:40 -0800 Message-Id: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <3tQPyC.A.CsH.sW4LNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:07:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-972344176 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Folks, Posting here for the first time... I was compelled to after I spent = several days trying to get my new Boss RC-50 to sync reliably. I = thought that maybe some of you could benefit from my experience as well = as see a glimpse into the lack of customer service @ Roland. Oh, I = soooooo wish I was at NAMM right now so I could speak to them about this = face to face. I'm sure many of you know of the lack of true master/slave sync in = regards to this device and external midi clock. I, like many others, = was compelled to get an RC-50 after learning there was a midi capable = looper! It's advertised as such and I got swept up into the marketing = of such a device as I've been looking for a quality looper for some time = that I could sync to midi while running audio channels externally so = they could go in/out of my guitar amp. I found the holy grail, or so I = thought... up and bought it right there as I found a good deal on ebay. I spent a couple weeks with the looper getting this to work right. I = did indeed read the manual quite a bit. Studied it. I'm familiar with = gear and syncing. I was trying to sync the RC-50 to Ableton Live. Went = through many settings on both the RC-50 and Live. ALMOST got it to sync = as a true master / slave but what I found is that the clock would just = not sync accurately. It would remain off by .1 or .2 midi beats which = of course, is not SYNCHRONIZATION as the loops would drift after not too = much time. As I am certain you fellow loopers would conclude, this is = unacceptable! The looper needs to really sync reliably to work without = drift. My goal was to be able to get multiple loops at lengths to which I = desired to loop in sync with Live. I set Tempo Sync to OFF, Loop sync = to OFF, Midi sync to AUTO and REMOTE.... same things...still the drift = of .1 to .2, not always but well enough to not be reliable for live = performance. Computer was sending midi clock to the looper. I tried tricking the device - setting up a empty loop on track 1 so that = other tracks could quantize and sync to it... still no dice. It would = consistently read the midi clock and pretty regularly be off by .1 - .2. = Live definitely set up correctly. Other midi interfaces tried. Other = computer tried. Didn't matter... not syncing. I read and read and read = the manual. I tried running the RC-50 as the master and Live as the slave. Doing so = this way caused Live's tempo to be all over the map. I finally emailed their customer support. I'll get to that in a second. = Just after emailing their customer support, I perused Looper's Delight = again and I got some ideas to try another approach.... which = surprisingly worked! It's a major workaround, the device should not = behave like this but this was the ONLY way I got the RC-50 to sync = reliably.=20 Here is how: On RC-50 - setup a patch that has a specific tempo of your sequence, say = 125BPM. Store that tempo with the patch. Tempo Sync -- OFF OFF OFF. = Loop Sync On/Off - experiment with this. Midi sync set to REMOTE. = Pre-record a blank loop at the BPM that the RC-50 believes is correct. = When set to REMOTE (even though this is counter-intuitive) the RC-50 = still gets it's tempo from INTERNAL settings. WTF?!?! Ok. This gave me = the idea though to set this up using the pre-recorded dummy empty loop = at the specific tempo. Here is the part I was missing as again it seems = counter-intuitive and does not explain well in the manual. In order for = the RC-50 to sync correctly without drift, YOU HAVE TO USE THE GUIDE!!!! = THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THE RC-50 GETS RELIABLE TEMPO!!! Then you = have this ugly problem of hearing their canned, crappy drums. How do = you eliminate that? Set the guide to play out of the SUB OUTS (as long = as you are not using them already) and then don't plug them in to = speakers!!!! What happens is once you have this blank loop set, and = REMOTE working properly (don't forget your midi settings in Live!), the = RC-50 is tricked into playing at the correct tempo. You can then record = other loops on the other tracks which will be quantized to your original = silent loop and then will remain in sync. Get it? Yuck. I have never = had such a difficult time getting midi gear to sync. Hope I explained it okay.. but it works, solidly... finally. When you = start your sequence, you must have the empty loop track selected on the = RC-50 so that when you start the sequencer, it triggers playback of the = blank loop and then you can record to the other loops. It stays in sync = as long as you still have a loop running. If you stop playback on the = RC-50, forget it the loops will get out of sync. If you want silence in = there, you still have to play the empty loop and keep the clock running. So, here is the part about their customer service. I emailed them = trying to ask about this.. first of all they only give you about 300 = characters in which to describe your problem (I do feel sorry for their = support staff as a result of this) and you also get some less than = stellar support once you do get any response from them. Here is what = they said about the RC-50 and synchronization: "There would not be any way around this issue as sync requires very = intensive realtime calculations, and the RC's brain has to crunch = thousands of numbers per second on-the-fly when locking to external = clock or when the the tempo is changed. The recording mode also has an = effect, as stereo audio is twice as difficult to sync and/or time-shift = than mono audio." - Are you kidding me? It's too complicated to work? Tell that to all = the other midi manufacturers that get devices from varying manufacturers = to work in sync all the time. And if this is the case, why do you = advertise that this is a feature!?!? You think musicians won't notice? = I have read on this forum and in other places that Roland is not likely = to update their version 1.1 operating system any time soon (likely = never). So... it seems that even Roland doesn't have a workaround like I came up = with. I hope I explained this okay and that it helps some of you. I = had a hard time finding info on this and had to piece it together from = various sources. Best to all you loopers, sorry for the long post, but hoping this might = help someone out there in loopland... Shane Tainted By Trolls http://www.taintedbytrolls.com/ --Apple-Mail-1-972344176 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hello = Folks,

Posting here for the first time...  I was = compelled to after I spent several days trying to get my new Boss RC-50 = to sync reliably.  I thought that maybe some of you could benefit = from my experience as well as see a glimpse into the lack of customer = service @ Roland.  Oh, I soooooo wish I was at NAMM right now so I = could speak to them about this face to = face.

I'm sure many of you know of the lack of = true master/slave sync in regards to this device and external midi = clock.  I, like many others, was compelled to get an RC-50 after = learning there was a midi capable looper!  It's advertised as such = and I got swept up into the marketing of such a device as I've been = looking for a quality looper for some time that I could sync to midi = while running audio channels externally so they could go in/out of my = guitar amp.  I found the holy grail, or so I thought... up and = bought it right there as I found a good deal on = ebay.

I spent a couple weeks with the looper = getting this to work right.  I did indeed read the manual quite a = bit.  Studied it.  I'm familiar with gear and syncing.  I = was trying to sync the RC-50 to Ableton Live.  Went through many = settings on both the RC-50 and Live.  ALMOST got it to sync as a = true master / slave but what I found is that the clock would just not = sync accurately.  It would remain off by .1 or .2 midi beats which = of course, is not SYNCHRONIZATION as the loops would drift after not too = much time.  As I am certain you fellow loopers would conclude, this = is unacceptable!  The looper needs to really sync reliably to work = without drift.

My goal was to be able to get = multiple loops at lengths to which I desired to loop in sync with Live. =  I set Tempo Sync to OFF, Loop sync to OFF, Midi sync to AUTO and = REMOTE.... same things...still the drift of .1 to .2, not always but = well enough to not be reliable for live performance.  Computer was = sending midi clock to the looper.

I tried = tricking the device - setting up a empty loop on track 1 so that other = tracks could quantize and sync to it... still no dice.  It would = consistently read the midi clock and pretty regularly be off by .1 - .2. =  Live definitely set up correctly.  Other midi interfaces = tried.  Other computer tried.  Didn't matter... not syncing. =  I read and read and read the manual.

I = tried running the RC-50 as the master and Live as the slave.  Doing = so this way caused Live's tempo to be all over the = map.

I finally emailed their customer support. =  I'll get to that in a second.  Just after emailing their = customer support, I perused Looper's Delight again and I got some ideas = to try another approach.... which surprisingly worked!  It's a = major workaround, the device should not behave like this but this was = the ONLY way I got the RC-50 to sync = reliably. 

Here is = how:

On RC-50 - setup a patch that has a = specific tempo of your sequence, say 125BPM.  Store that tempo with = the patch.  Tempo Sync -- OFF OFF OFF.  Loop Sync On/Off - = experiment with this.  Midi sync set to REMOTE.  Pre-record a = blank loop at the BPM that the RC-50 believes is correct.  When set = to REMOTE (even though this is counter-intuitive) the RC-50 still gets = it's tempo from INTERNAL settings.  WTF?!?! Ok. This gave me the = idea though to set this up using the pre-recorded dummy empty loop at = the specific tempo.  Here is the part I was missing as again it = seems counter-intuitive and does not explain well in the manual. =  In order for the RC-50 to sync correctly without drift, YOU HAVE = TO USE THE GUIDE!!!!  THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THE RC-50 GETS = RELIABLE TEMPO!!!  Then you have this ugly problem of hearing their = canned, crappy drums.  How do you eliminate that?  Set the = guide to play out of the SUB OUTS (as long as you are not using them = already) and then don't plug them in to speakers!!!! What happens is = once you have this blank loop set, and REMOTE working properly (don't = forget your midi settings in Live!), the RC-50 is tricked into playing = at the correct tempo.  You can then record other loops on the other = tracks which will be quantized to your original silent loop and then = will remain in sync.  Get it?  Yuck.  I have never had = such a difficult time getting midi gear to = sync.


Hope I explained it okay.. = but it works, solidly... finally.  When you start your sequence, = you must have the empty loop track selected on the RC-50 so that when = you start the sequencer, it triggers playback of the blank loop and then = you can record to the other loops.  It stays in sync as long as you = still have a loop running.  If you stop playback on the RC-50, = forget it the loops will get out of sync.  If you want silence in = there, you still have to play the empty loop and keep the clock = running.

So, here is the part about their = customer service.  I emailed them trying to ask about this.. first = of all they only give you about 300 characters in which to describe your = problem (I do feel sorry for their support staff as a result of this) = and you also get some less than stellar support once you do get any = response from them.  Here is what they said about the RC-50 and = synchronization:

"There would not be any way around this = issue as sync requires very intensive realtime calculations, and the = RC's brain has to crunch thousands of numbers per second on-the-fly when = locking to external clock or when the the tempo is changed. The = recording mode also has an effect, as stereo audio is twice as difficult = to sync and/or time-shift than mono audio."

- Are you kidding me? It's too = complicated to work?  Tell that to all the other midi manufacturers = that get devices from varying manufacturers to work in sync all the = time.  And if this is the case, why do you advertise that this is a = feature!?!?  You think musicians won't notice?  I have read on = this forum and in other places that Roland is not likely to update their = version 1.1 operating system any time soon (likely = never).

Best to all you loopers, sorry for the = long post, but hoping this might help someone out there in = loopland...



= --Apple-Mail-1-972344176-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 23:24:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17849183487; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2F89AD.2090103@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:24:29 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: buzap@gmx.net CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OT: Sheer talent: Kurt Hugo Schneider, Sam Tsui, Sara Bareilles... References: <20110113155435.202360@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20110113155435.202360@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:24:41 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, buzap@gmx.net wrote: > To be fair: there's quite a bit of beatboxing (esp. in King of...). > And the clicking rhythm on the recorder was pretty cool. True, true. Seriously, I was just being humurously self deprecating about that post and it struck me as funny and absurd that a weird found sound guy would be competitive with another found sound guy. I'm just stuck in bed waiting for the anti biotics to kick in.............too much time on my hands but all of it with a crummy headache and sore throat.............lol. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 23:28:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BDFD183466; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101130162 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-13_10:2011-01-13,2011-01-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Message-id: <740AE619F6D841169F7465B18FE52091@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110113155435.202360@gmx.net> <4D2F89AD.2090103@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Re: OT: Sheer talent: Kurt Hugo Schneider, Sam Tsui, Sara Bareilles... Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:28:24 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: <8geTNB.A.yX.iq4LNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Antibiotics don't work on viruses. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:24 PM Subject: Re: Re: OT: Sheer talent: Kurt Hugo Schneider, Sam Tsui, Sara Bareilles... > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, buzap@gmx.net wrote: >> To be fair: there's quite a bit of beatboxing (esp. in King of...). And >> the clicking rhythm on the recorder was pretty cool. > > True, true. Seriously, I was just being humurously self deprecating > about that post and it struck me as > funny and absurd that a weird found sound guy would be competitive with > another found sound guy. > > I'm just stuck in bed waiting for the anti biotics to kick > in.............too much time on my hands > but all of it with a crummy headache and sore throat.............lol. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 23:32:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED0B0183487; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2F8B76.3020904@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:32:06 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Howell CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: should musicians have a second job? References: <30772042.1294933868899.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <30772042.1294933868899.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:32:16 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Howell wrote: > If they want to eat. Being a pro musician was great when chemical > amusement was free and the girlfriend and I lived on her student > loans. American loopers, you need health insurance or else you are > royally ****ed when you get ill or injured. Living outside of the > established economy is grand fun until serious life changes occur. I > am happier now in my middling health care job while not dealing with > the business side of the music business. Lets' face it, alot of the > people you have to deal with in the business are pretty reptilian. > Every club you play, every event, every booking agent is a boss. > Wedding gigs were even worse. Don't get me started. Now, I have one > boss. So I started to realize there wasn't much freedom in that life. > I had a lot of bosses and four bandmates. It was all of the irritants > of marriage without sex. I respect your experiences and conclusions, Todd, but not everyone has the same experiences and not everyone's solutions are the proper solutions. I've been a professional musician without a day job for 34 years now..........without health care. I won't tell you that it's been easy, but I feel blessed to have lived the life I have lived. Does it have it's drawbacks..........certainly...........I've been forced to cancel a quarter of my months' income because this week because I have the flu and am going to NAMM (hopefully) this weekend.......... that's a stressor for sure. But in my own case (and I truly don't think I have the answer for anyone outside of myself) I've been able to be music for my whole adult life without a lot of compromise and that has it's rewards.......though they are frequently spiritual and not monetary. So, I support your solution. Truly I do, but I would ask that you also have compassion for my own solution , though it differs from yours. respectfully, rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 23:49:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0A9B18347C; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QbIi+6bR/JaOo8q/iusSfy1Vgoup3LXP4CE28PEB7fk=; b=wiQGCWvWRmxZ9nd5x7dyK6vLTNLcGbpNwqNG2l3U+LZpwmDI5JShdmZrm24dl4fAqY ppDvHFmsnppyWxp0o05XotIrj3XZa2CwxX6ghBuTqPlUtNnin19FkijGhaLz1Pz9Z36M SlrGISqSzuVzrz6W2jApd7/o2Cv1etAbdqPG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Au4GtYT1qqHOa+EuyPoVhPndLYMdhjRUmxpmK4WpkuC4ju631tP3k5bRkjGcGVrLHW nNJvtge4h0w1xOOjB0HaLchJNKdbVAG3JKGlJs2Q9WWLECUjZxBQ4oOXEdL5bhHLHcHH eGzTyvzD+dRGn2o06mBlUbrO2aETj/BPe9xRM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2F8B76.3020904@cruzio.com> References: <30772042.1294933868899.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D2F8B76.3020904@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:49:36 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: should musicians have a second job? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636eef32f60978c0499c2f81b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:49:38 +0000 (UTC) --001636eef32f60978c0499c2f81b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick despite my own spin I do applaud those you find a way. As I stated I do know it does not come without trades and I think the biggest for those i= n the States is the choice of whether not to have healthcare or not as you have done. I briefly did that for a few years in my 20's and I think it's = a tragedy that our country does not have a better solution. These days with = a family, a type 1 diabetic daughter, healthcare is imperative. Realizing though everyone's journey is different cool you have as I'e known since I met you in 07, pulled it off in your 'own way'. J On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Howell wrote: > >> If they want to eat. Being a pro musician was great when chemical >> amusement was free and the girlfriend and I lived on her student loans. >> American loopers, you need health insurance or else you are royally ****= ed >> when you get ill or injured. Living outside of the established economy i= s >> grand fun until serious life changes occur. I am happier now in my middl= ing >> health care job while not dealing with the business side of the music >> business. Lets' face it, alot of the people you have to deal with in the >> business are pretty reptilian. Every club you play, every event, every >> booking agent is a boss. Wedding gigs were even worse. Don't get me star= ted. >> Now, I have one boss. So I started to realize there wasn't much freedom = in >> that life. I had a lot of bosses and four bandmates. It was all of the >> irritants of marriage without sex. >> > I respect your experiences and conclusions, Todd, but not everyone has t= he > same experiences > and not everyone's solutions are the proper solutions. > > I've been a professional musician without a day job for 34 years > now..........without health care. > I won't tell you that it's been easy, but I feel blessed to have lived th= e > life I have lived. > > Does it have it's drawbacks..........certainly...........I've been forced > to cancel a quarter of my months' income > because this week because I have the flu and am going to NAMM (hopefully= ) > this weekend.......... > that's a stressor for sure. But in my own case (and I truly don't think= I > have the answer for anyone outside of myself) I've been able to be music > for my whole adult life without a lot of compromise and that has it's > rewards.......though they are frequently spiritual and not monetary. > > So, I support your solution. Truly I do, but I would ask that you als= o > have compassion for my own > solution , though it differs from yours. > > respectfully, > rick walker > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001636eef32f60978c0499c2f81b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick despite my own spin I do applaud those you find a way. =A0As I stated = I do know it does not come without trades and I think the biggest for those= in the States is the choice of whether not to have healthcare or not as yo= u have done. =A0I briefly did that for a few years in my 20's and I thi= nk it's a tragedy that our country does not have a better solution. =A0= These days with a family, a type 1 diabetic daughter, healthcare is imperat= ive. =A0Realizing though everyone's journey is different cool you have = as I'e known since I met you in 07, pulled it off in your 'own way&= #39;. =A0

J

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at = 6:32 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Howell wrote:
If they want to eat. Being a pro musician was great when chemical amusement= was free and the girlfriend and I lived on her student loans. American loo= pers, you need health insurance or else you are royally ****ed when you get= ill or injured. Living outside of the established economy is grand fun unt= il serious life changes occur. I am happier now in my middling health care = job while not dealing with the business side of the music business. Lets= 9; face it, alot of the people you have to deal with in the business are pr= etty reptilian. Every club you play, every event, every booking agent is a = boss. Wedding gigs were even worse. Don't get me started. Now, I have o= ne boss. So I started to realize there wasn't much freedom in that life= . I had a lot of bosses and four bandmates. It was all of the irritants of = marriage without sex.
I respect your experiences and conclusions, Todd, =A0but not everyone has t= he same experiences
and not everyone's solutions are the proper solutions.

I've been a professional musician without a day job for 34 years now...= .......without health care.
I won't tell you that it's been easy, but I feel blessed to have li= ved the life I have lived.

Does it have it's drawbacks..........certainly...........I've been = forced to cancel a quarter of my months' income
because this week because =A0I have the flu and am going to NAMM (hopefully= ) this weekend..........
that's a stressor for sure. =A0 But in my own case (and I truly don'= ;t think I have the answer for anyone outside of myself) =A0I've been a= ble to be music for my whole adult life without a lot of compromise and tha= t has it's rewards.......though they are frequently spiritual and not m= onetary.

So, =A0I support your solution. =A0 Truly I do, =A0but I would ask that you= also have compassion for my own
solution , though it differs from yours.

respectfully,
rick walker




--
From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--001636eef32f60978c0499c2f81b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 13 23:56:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A61C4183481; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=bduozbkOfFDcRVCGkATnALsIVL6L4+573wJQFdPFyGbMMDyVFfPCBYKMnNzviibA; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <33169607.1294963012215.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:56:52 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Todd Howell Reply-To: Todd Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: should musicians have a second job? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 303a3acd514d41c871639b933de7ae6f7e972de0d01da940b2dbf309558822ae9f95a7abacbbc742350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.41 Resent-Message-ID: <8gRqJB.A.cKB.EF5LNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:56:53 +0000 (UTC) RW I think it wonderful that you can pull it off. I am almost jealous. The idea that all you have to do is make music is wonderful. The fact that you can do this is even better. There is, I am sure, a purity to your life that mine wouldn't have had as a professional musician. I found myself taking hideous gigs for the paycheck. I liken it to porn. I was the occasional pro who had to turn it on before the cameras for the money. I was reasonably fit and doing it for the buck. But me? I'd rather be a fat ****er who did it for love. Not pretty. Not svelte. Just another chump in the basement. I feel better as I write this. I am glad that your reality allows it. Make the most of it and create something brilliant. Blessings on your journey. Ransacker -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Walker >Sent: Jan 13, 2011 4:32 PM >To: Todd Howell >Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Re: should musicians have a second job? > >On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Howell wrote: >> If they want to eat. Being a pro musician was great when chemical >> amusement was free and the girlfriend and I lived on her student >> loans. American loopers, you need health insurance or else you are >> royally ****ed when you get ill or injured. Living outside of the >> established economy is grand fun until serious life changes occur. I >> am happier now in my middling health care job while not dealing with >> the business side of the music business. Lets' face it, alot of the >> people you have to deal with in the business are pretty reptilian. >> Every club you play, every event, every booking agent is a boss. >> Wedding gigs were even worse. Don't get me started. Now, I have one >> boss. So I started to realize there wasn't much freedom in that life. >> I had a lot of bosses and four bandmates. It was all of the irritants >> of marriage without sex. >I respect your experiences and conclusions, Todd, but not everyone has >the same experiences >and not everyone's solutions are the proper solutions. > >I've been a professional musician without a day job for 34 years >now..........without health care. >I won't tell you that it's been easy, but I feel blessed to have lived >the life I have lived. > >Does it have it's drawbacks..........certainly...........I've been >forced to cancel a quarter of my months' income >because this week because I have the flu and am going to NAMM >(hopefully) this weekend.......... >that's a stressor for sure. But in my own case (and I truly don't >think I have the answer for anyone outside of myself) I've been able to >be music for my whole adult life without a lot of compromise and that >has it's rewards.......though they are frequently spiritual and not >monetary. > >So, I support your solution. Truly I do, but I would ask that you >also have compassion for my own >solution , though it differs from yours. > >respectfully, >rick walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 00:14:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CE7D18348C; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2F9557.1030106@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:14:15 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: should musicians have a second job? References: <1845588563.4305678.1294953859145.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1845588563.4305678.1294953859145.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <1jA4GD.A.dkB.jV5LNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:14:27 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: > When we get to where we're going as a civilization, will we know how > to simply be? If we have so completely set our highest personal and > creative goals to be iconoclasts, rebels, individuals, mavericks, > self-defined, self-actualized and self-created whatevers - constantly > pushing against all known boundaries and any sense of norm or tabu - > what will happen when we come to a time that is entirely without them? > Will that be heaven? Or will that be hell? Of what use will be > concepts like, empathy, kindness, human warmth, or decency in such a > world? Indeed, what will be especially human about it at all, except > probably the advanced technolgy? My own take is that a sense of constant yearning.............a desire to be continually creative..............these are the things that make us human. Human beings also constantly aspire to 'arriving' and when they get there, they realize that that's where they are and then they start aspiring to something else. I think this is what is beautiful about human beings. We are always a 'work in progress' and really, a final goal is illusory.**It's just me, but I just don't believe in the notion of heaven or hell. Absolutes and absolute states are illusory. The notion that they exist is comforting to human beings but only for a little while: then we aspire again. And so it goes. * *rick walker* * From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 00:29:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16F06183482; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:29:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2F98FA.90706@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:29:46 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: OT: Sheer talent: Kurt Hugo Schneider, Sam Tsui, Sara Bareilles... References: <740AE619F6D841169F7465B18FE52091@NORBY11> In-Reply-To: <740AE619F6D841169F7465B18FE52091@NORBY11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:29:53 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Toby G wrote: > Antibiotics don't work on viruses. Thanks Toby, I grew up with a very well known Physician as a father. I know this. They do, however, work very efficaciously on secondary infections that result from viral infections. That's what I'm treating now. r. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 00:32:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 266B0183482; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:32:49 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PIM Contact CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 and sucking at syncing and some sucky customer service to boot References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> In-Reply-To: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:32:56 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, PIM Contact wrote: > Hello Folks, > > Posting here for the first time... I was compelled to after I spent > several days trying to get my new Boss RC-50 to sync reliably. Sorry you are having problems with your RC-50. Wish I had a solution but I don't. I've heard a lot about that problem however. You might want to research back through the archives about discussions about the RC-50 and midi sync problems and solutions. I don't own one so I don't know. The only good news is that the LP-2 Mini Looper is being debuted at NAMM and will have robust MIDI I/O and at an amazing street price of $300. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 00:49:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 781C318347C; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Brnbm8LJ0HSZ0P5nGjj1Ji73FztMiIrGZQaGMLY5zts= c=1 sm=1 a=orNh4HE0mLIA:10 a=+oOqxtZ+ovgfj2I0snQLPg==:17 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=2zdIIQPQC8guh1kpZcQA:9 a=aaesFxhw9NInAUIc-lQA:7 a=HqZ9HixIazr0fvxnenV9doD5c00A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=2deA2waacxs4Bf3QGIQA:9 a=2pRhErD_xoAF94GLRAUA:7 a=gDhLmu5pmAItte5rTxPQ6h1a-XIA:4 a=+oOqxtZ+ovgfj2I0snQLPg==:117 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-978871229 Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:49:27 -0800 In-Reply-To: <4D2F9557.1030106@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1845588563.4305678.1294953859145.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <4D2F9557.1030106@cruzio.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <_D_4BC.A.hcC.Z25LNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:49:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-978871229 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 heaven, hell, buddhahood, love, hate, enlightenment and all those = 'absolutes' are verbs, not nouns. Creativity is a verb. For me, = realizing that my goal was creativity rather than being a music star (or = saint) was like sprouting 757 wings! This happened for me (fully) just = in this past year - although I've made good money from writing and brain = storming in the past. It liberated me from the bondage of music. Now = it's farming, writing, music, studio stuff... running the various = businesses I have. All of it now brings me the buzz music once had a = monopoly on.=20 I think the notion that musicians should all have second jobs is just = indicative of the state of the world right now. When I was a kid in the = late 50s-60's, there was a study done to find out what the most aspired = to vocation was (for kids in school) and, above doctor, lawyer, movie = star etc was 'musician'. It was THE most desired job! Now most folks = think anyone who's doing anything they really enjoy, that's 'fun', = shouldn't be paid for it. Definitely music has fallen from heaven. The glut has defeated the bountiful harvest! =20 We are indeed in an odd time and I'm glad I'm not in my twenties again. = For creativity, the gates are wider than they've ever been, for making a = living with music they're about as big as an ant hole. But if you see = your drive as towards 'creativity' the crunch is off. =20 And as for Ted's most excellent last missal, I think the big question = is, "Who does your music serve?" That's from the old Grail Legends, = which I think have something to say to modern questers. But if you look = at that it will either propel you forward with your music or make you = turn off the amp and look out the window.=20 Either way, looking out the window is a good first move.=20 As I've said before, doing music because you love it is the only sound, = sustainable motive. But having that love and having some sense of its = value raises the ante quite a bit. =20 If you do it because you love it and expect the world to provide for = you, a second job might be a good hedge. If you do music because you = think it can bring genuine improvement to the lives of humans, trees, = bulldogs or antelopes, or whatever, you run the risk of possibly making = a living. =20 But creativity is the Big Mother. All of her children are fun to play = with. And it SEEMS that if you approach everything with more = creativity, the odds of making enough to buy a few more beers and = pretzels increases by possible orders of magnitude. Did you ever see = that cool video by Arcade Fire? THAT'S what I consider being wholly = creative. One of the band guys did that. =20 Our lives are our creations. It takes a lot of the heat off in a way. = Moves it to a bigger arena that YOU have more control over. No sugar = daddy, applause, P.A. required. Just my very dumb $.02!=20 richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Jan 13, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: >> When we get to where we're going as a civilization, will we know how = to simply be? If we have so completely set our highest personal and = creative goals to be iconoclasts, rebels, individuals, mavericks, = self-defined, self-actualized and self-created whatevers - constantly = pushing against all known boundaries and any sense of norm or tabu - = what will happen when we come to a time that is entirely without them? = Will that be heaven? Or will that be hell? Of what use will be concepts = like, empathy, kindness, human warmth, or decency in such a world? = Indeed, what will be especially human about it at all, except probably = the advanced technolgy?=20 > My own take is that a sense of constant yearning.............a desire = to be continually creative..............these are the > things that make us human. Human beings also constantly aspire = to 'arriving' > and when they get there, they realize that that's where they are and = then they start aspiring to > something else. I think this is what is beautiful about human = beings. We are always a > 'work in progress' and really, a final goal is illusory.**It's just = me, but I just don't believe > in the notion of heaven or hell. Absolutes and absolute states are = illusory. The notion > that they exist is comforting to human beings but only for a little = while: then we aspire again. And so it goes. > * > *rick walker* > * >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-978871229 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

Either way, looking out = the window is a good first move. 

As I've = said before, doing music because you love it is the only sound, = sustainable motive.  But having that love and having some sense of = its value raises the ante quite a bit. =  

If you do it because you love it and = expect the world to provide for you, a second job might be a good hedge. =  If you do music because you think it can bring genuine improvement = to the lives of humans, trees, bulldogs or antelopes, or whatever, you = run the risk of possibly making a living. =  

But creativity is the Big Mother. =  All of her children are fun to play with.   And it SEEMS that = if you approach everything with more creativity, the odds of making = enough to buy a few more beers and pretzels increases by possible orders = of magnitude.  Did you ever see that cool video by Arcade Fire? =  THAT'S what I consider being wholly creative.  One of the = band guys did that.  

Our lives are our = creations.  It takes a lot of the heat off in a way.  Moves it = to a bigger arena that YOU have more control over.  No sugar daddy, = applause, P.A. required.

Just my very dumb = $.02! 

richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=

=

On Jan 13, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

On = 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote:
When= we get to where we're going as a civilization, will we know how to = simply be? If we have so completely set our highest personal and = creative goals to be iconoclasts, rebels, individuals, mavericks, = self-defined, self-actualized and self-created whatevers - constantly = pushing against all known boundaries and any sense of norm or tabu - = what will happen when we come to a time that is entirely without them? = Will that be heaven? Or will that be hell? Of what use will be concepts = like, empathy, kindness, human warmth, or decency in such a world? = Indeed, what will be especially human about it at all, except probably = the advanced technolgy?
My own take is that a sense of = constant yearning.............a desire to be continually = creative..............these are the
things that make us human. =       Human beings also constantly aspire = to 'arriving'
and when they get there, they realize that that's where = they are and then they start aspiring to
something else. =     I think this is what is beautiful about human = beings.   We are always a
'work in progress'  and = really,  a final goal is illusory.**It's just me, but I just don't = believe
in the notion of heaven or hell.   Absolutes and = absolute states are illusory.   The notion
that they exist = is comforting to human beings but only for a little while:  then we = aspire again.   And so it goes.
*
*rick = walker*
*


= --Apple-Mail-2-978871229-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 02:06:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F419F183480; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D2FAF94.9060607@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:06:12 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Howell CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: should musicians have a second job? References: <33169607.1294963012215.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <33169607.1294963012215.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:06:22 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Howell wrote: > RW > > There is, I am sure, a purity to your life that mine wouldn't have had as a professional musician. I wouldn't say that I have a purity that one who doesn't make all their living has, at all. I was the number one on call 'A' sub for 150 bands from Sacramento to Big Sur for about 10 years. I would never leave the door for less than $150 or $200 and I prided myself on it. I worked so hard (and made a lot of money) but I wasn't free at all. It took tremendous energy away from me, despite the fact that I could always turn a gig down to do my own artistry. Suddenly at the turn of the Millenium I realized that there were all these really creative ideas I'd had in my head for so many years that always got back-burnered because of how hard I was working. I realized that I'd let myself get burned out being a professional musician and that I was looking around me and finding that most mid level pro musicians like myself and at my age were not being creative in the slightest and it depressed me greatly. I realized that if I fell back on my teaching alone (and the occasional tour that I truly loved to do or studio work that I loved to do) that I could redevote myself to my artistry and creativity. I didn't do it because it was 'noble'.........I did it because I realized I just wasn't happy unless I made that decision. Now I make 1/2 to 1/4 of what I used to make and sometimes I struggle financially, but I'm a lot happier doing more art in my life (until the last three years when the Looping Festival and a lot of touring began to crowd artistry out of my life again). This year I don't have any tours planned and I'm not going to be active with the Looping Festival for the first time in 10 years. I'm really excited to have a lot more time to devote to writing, learning new instruments and techniques and,importantly, recording the results. But .......some of my very favorite artists on the planet have day jobs. They are inspirations to me. So I would never have an attitude about people who mix art and a day job.....NEVER!!!! Purity is where one finds it. I always tell my students that every one can find 5 minutes in one's daily life to give themselves completely to creativity and art........whilst letting the rest of the world go for a brief while. Most people think, '5 minutes? that's nothing" but I beg to disagree. If 5 minutes is analagous to one of your fingers, then a week of five fingers is a hand and four weeks of 5 fingers is four hands and 12 months of that is 48 hands and in two or three years you can achieve an amazing amount of skill on almost anything. The trick is giving oneself completely to those 5 minutes (15 minutes? one hour? 8 hours? whatever one can give). Anyone can do this...........day job or no. That's my approach at least. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 02:23:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19D7918345E; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+nyr9QPvkM4YIa7X7VNjhpAaUmko7P3fDCYPWxSj5s8=; b=G7TM0x4iWhhjbMnwlDj99/tJPHz0cuhh6Jh/a10XBSvQF18zoyA855hkMvfH8FtjgS YhYLlFsj+6xlY0u5wbQeo1Bq8LOHc/zRl0VANw9jCXe0680mkrq5DWYEZcUvrYYXBsP7 BP/sXCG5VZfcEsfMxUX/W6ki/vI0vdNz0bXz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=GqB706faVhuDN9VepyGKMXt3yePm2vUHs4BMWKyKsqWX0UIGBu/L7MtWaXVgUZyFZf 9D/tjCP8EDGv0MWsJxM0Fju2sHb3SGRhkroWbW0UdsCqdpPbH9qJ9E9EsN22JprkiIJM Szq+vy+FBBj8KZwQfAovy6IKRtJMOQ8EFfwV0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1845588563.4305678.1294953859145.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <4D2F9557.1030106@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:23:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30433e4ce4980b0499c51ef0 Resent-Message-ID: <6uX1NB.A.6iE.nO7LNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:23:35 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30433e4ce4980b0499c51ef0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable jeez, richard, that was the best value I've seen in years. two cents for that good of wisdom? sheeeeeet. thanks for that. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:49 PM, richard sales wrote= : > heaven, hell, buddhahood, love, hate, enlightenment and all those > 'absolutes' are verbs, not nouns. Creativity is a verb. For me, realizi= ng > that my goal was creativity rather than being a music star (or saint) was > like sprouting 757 wings! This happened for me (fully) just in this past > year - although I've made good money from writing and brain storming in t= he > past. It liberated me from the bondage of music. Now it's farming, > writing, music, studio stuff... running the various businesses I have. A= ll > of it now brings me the buzz music once had a monopoly on. > > I think the notion that musicians should all have second jobs is just > indicative of the state of the world right now. When I was a kid in the > late 50s-60's, there was a study done to find out what the most aspired t= o > vocation was (for kids in school) and, above doctor, lawyer, movie star e= tc > was 'musician'. It was THE most desired job! Now most folks think anyone > who's doing anything they really enjoy, that's 'fun', shouldn't be paid f= or > it. Definitely music has fallen from heaven. > > The glut has defeated the bountiful harvest! > > We are indeed in an odd time and I'm glad I'm not in my twenties again. > For creativity, the gates are wider than they've ever been, for making a > living with music they're about as big as an ant hole. But if you see yo= ur > drive as towards 'creativity' the crunch is off. > > And as for Ted's most excellent last missal, I think the big question is, > "Who does your music serve?" That's from the old Grail Legends, which I > think have something to say to modern questers. But if you look at that = it > will either propel you forward with your music or make you turn off the a= mp > and look out the window. > > Either way, looking out the window is a good first move. > > As I've said before, doing music because you love it is the only sound, > sustainable motive. But having that love and having some sense of its va= lue > raises the ante quite a bit. > > If you do it because you love it and expect the world to provide for you,= a > second job might be a good hedge. If you do music because you think it c= an > bring genuine improvement to the lives of humans, trees, bulldogs or > antelopes, or whatever, you run the risk of possibly making a living. > > But creativity is the Big Mother. All of her children are fun to play > with. And it SEEMS that if you approach everything with more creativity= , > the odds of making enough to buy a few more beers and pretzels increases = by > possible orders of magnitude. Did you ever see that cool video by Arcade > Fire? THAT'S what I consider being wholly creative. One of the band guy= s > did that. > > Our lives are our creations. It takes a lot of the heat off in a way. > Moves it to a bigger arena that YOU have more control over. No sugar > daddy, applause, P.A. required. > > Just my very dumb $.02! > > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > > > > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > > When we get to where we're going as a civilization, will we know how to > simply be? If we have so completely set our highest personal and creative > goals to be iconoclasts, rebels, individuals, mavericks, self-defined, > self-actualized and self-created whatevers - constantly pushing against a= ll > known boundaries and any sense of norm or tabu - what will happen when we > come to a time that is entirely without them? Will that be heaven? Or wil= l > that be hell? Of what use will be concepts like, empathy, kindness, human > warmth, or decency in such a world? Indeed, what will be especially human > about it at all, except probably the advanced technolgy? > > My own take is that a sense of constant yearning.............a desire to = be > continually creative..............these are the > things that make us human. Human beings also constantly aspire to > 'arriving' > and when they get there, they realize that that's where they are and then > they start aspiring to > something else. I think this is what is beautiful about human beings. > We are always a > 'work in progress' and really, a final goal is illusory.**It's just me, > but I just don't believe > in the notion of heaven or hell. Absolutes and absolute states are > illusory. The notion > that they exist is comforting to human beings but only for a little while= : > then we aspire again. And so it goes. > * > *rick walker* > * > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 In C Remixed now released on iTunes and Amazon! :: Read about it here.= .. http://bit.ly/3Pm4g3 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf30433e4ce4980b0499c51ef0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable jeez, richard, =A0that was the best value I've seen in years. =A0two ce= nts for that good of wisdom? =A0sheeeeeet. =A0thanks for that.=A0

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:49 PM, richard sales <richard@glasswi= ng.com> wrote:
heaven,= hell, buddhahood, love, hate, enlightenment and all those 'absolutes&#= 39; are verbs, not nouns. =A0Creativity is a verb. =A0For me, realizing tha= t my goal was creativity rather than being a music star (or saint) was like= sprouting 757 wings! =A0This happened for me (fully) just in this past yea= r - although I've made good money from writing and brain storming in th= e past. =A0It liberated me from the bondage of music. =A0Now it's farmi= ng, writing, music, studio stuff... running the various businesses I have. = =A0All of it now brings me the buzz music once had a monopoly on.=A0

I think the notion that musicians should all have second job= s is just indicative of the state of the world right now. =A0When I was a k= id in the late 50s-60's, there was a study done to find out what the mo= st aspired to vocation was (for kids in school) and, above doctor, lawyer, = movie star etc was 'musician'. =A0It was THE most desired job! Now = most folks think anyone who's doing anything they really enjoy, that= 9;s 'fun', shouldn't be paid for it. =A0Definitely music has fa= llen from heaven.

The glut has defeated the bountiful harvest! =A0
<= div>
We are indeed in an odd time and I'm glad I'm no= t in my twenties again. =A0For creativity, the gates are wider than they= 9;ve ever been, for making a living with music they're about as big as = an ant hole. =A0But if you see your drive as towards 'creativity' t= he crunch is off. =A0

And as for Ted's most excellent last missal, I thin= k the big question is, "Who does your music serve?" =A0That's= from the old Grail Legends, which I think have something to say to modern = questers. =A0But if you look at that it will either propel you forward with= your music or make you turn off the amp and look out the window.=A0

Either way, looking out the window is a good first move= .=A0

As I've said before, doing music because = you love it is the only sound, sustainable motive. =A0But having that love = and having some sense of its value raises the ante quite a bit. =A0

If you do it because you love it and expect the world t= o provide for you, a second job might be a good hedge. =A0If you do music b= ecause you think it can bring genuine improvement to the lives of humans, t= rees, bulldogs or antelopes, or whatever, you run the risk of possibly maki= ng a living. =A0

But creativity is the Big Mother. =A0All of her childre= n are fun to play with. =A0 And it SEEMS that if you approach everything wi= th more creativity, the odds of making enough to buy a few more beers and p= retzels increases by possible orders of magnitude. =A0Did you ever see that= cool video by Arcade Fire? =A0THAT'S what I consider being wholly crea= tive. =A0One of the band guys did that. =A0

Our lives are our creations. =A0It takes a lot of the h= eat off in a way. =A0Moves it to a bigger arena that YOU have more control = over. =A0No sugar daddy, applause, P.A. required.

= Just my very dumb $.02!=A0


On Jan 13, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote:
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that they exist is comforting to human beings b= ut only for a little while: =A0then we aspire again. =A0=A0And so it goes.<= br>*
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--20cf30433e4ce4980b0499c51ef0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 02:29:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF01F18345C; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgFABJDL01Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACWOY4UiRq0ToVMBIRoiUqIeg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,321,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="93462210" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: New from Roland Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:32:20 -0600 References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <6ERs9B.A.1tE.UU7LNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet: http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=rc-30 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 02:41:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F46D18345E; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=i4U6hEC+BkaHh1dfspNLALqsmglgskP206VnjYHmIOM=; b=dcMEbpSdts+8fJpbUY/WiXjuK5Aa64I9TjcfCR3Db9ghKoCkH9GJhr8NF+r8LqlTjy cXrZqu27kWEEy8qfhfGeYmLziaaueNdCcBf/E4GdVeY0jgBMhyYx3ICL/OQWBsIpWBaO z/somS9P6VZAU10IP2GYCOJrnRzor1Ko7xh80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gvuM0yY+a82gBJacVesnaNjX8xkjybEVr/uouCkFYxJKWzYxG29bATBwkROwNIpIEN 6evgcMWfawOuV8rAP4NUZ9lwD50gIswjk+8nvpWuKSdb9em8wMG6OsGUuD1Yq3NjDDmW IHXsd8n1zg8RzwOzK16wLaLPVbGRXuffv178U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1845588563.4305678.1294953859145.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <4D2F9557.1030106@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 03:41:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367f997e450df20499c5602d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:41:51 +0000 (UTC) --0016367f997e450df20499c5602d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2011/1/14 richard sales > "Who does your music serve?" > > 1st. sorry for my poor english. music is the same it was and serves to the same it served from its conception or our awareness(!?) of it. just that it goes a step ahead over other "jobs" in our money culture which is about to succumb. as my mentor michael klobuchar said to the apostles: "paying for music is a thing of the past." what's going to happen to engineers then? more of the same. i think we'll arrive to a point where we'll realize that it was really important to hold on and work hard with your real passion because that's the only thing it will have a "value" in the future. my .02 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0016367f997e450df20499c5602d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2011/1/14 richard sales <richard@glasswing.com>=
"Who does your music serve?"= ;=A0


1st. sorry for my poor english.
music is the same it was and serves to the same it served from its con= ception or our awareness(!?) of it. just that it goes a step ahead over oth= er "jobs" in our money culture which is about to succumb. as my m= entor michael klobuchar said to the apostles: "paying for music is a t= hing of the past." what's going to happen to engineers then? more = of the same. i think we'll arrive to a point where we'll realize th= at it was really important to hold on and work hard with your real passion = because that's the only thing it will have a "value" in the f= uture. my .02

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--0016367f997e450df20499c5602d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 02:42:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5900183460; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: RC-50 and sucking at syncing and some sucky customer service to boot From: PIM Contact In-Reply-To: <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:42:47 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <78955783-C4E4-4D68-BCF3-1F9544A99817@taintedbytrolls.com> References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Oooh, the LP2 does look interesting. Will wait to see how other's = experiences are. LP1 looks really sweet as well although $$ If you read my original post, while lengthy, it does describe a tested = workaround solution for successfully syncing the RC-50 to Midi. Best, Shane On Jan 13, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, PIM Contact wrote: >> Hello Folks, >>=20 >> Posting here for the first time... I was compelled to after I spent = several days trying to get my new Boss RC-50 to sync reliably. > Sorry you are having problems with your RC-50. Wish I had a solution = but I don't. > I've heard a lot about that problem however. You might want to = research back through > the archives about discussions about the RC-50 and midi sync problems = and solutions. > I don't own one so I don't know. >=20 > The only good news is that the LP-2 Mini Looper is being debuted at = NAMM > and will have robust MIDI I/O and at an amazing street price of $300. >=20 > rick walker >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 03:10:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 676F218345A; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 03:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Cc: Todd Howell Message-Id: <360ABB7B-91D3-4085-A408-65C1E2B38CD8@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D2FAF94.9060607@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:10:55 -0800 References: <33169607.1294963012215.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D2FAF94.9060607@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <3ghuz.A.UsF.B77LNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 03:10:58 +0000 (UTC) I'm lucky enough to be making a good living at music right now....but I assume it won't last, so I keep up my computer skills for the day I have to go back to tech! From SANUSI.LAMIDOEMAILME@GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 14 04:01:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 26209 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:01:38 UTC Received: from cristallawgroup.com (65.97.158.218.nw.nuvox.net [65.97.158.218]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D81183453 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([41.211.232.83]) by cristallawgroup.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:26:03 -0500 Reply-To: From: "MR SANUSI LAMIDO SANUSI" Subject: PAYMENT NOTIFCATION OF YOUR FUND ... Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:26:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2011 15:26:04.0972 (UTC) FILETIME=[31779EC0:01CBB336] To: undisclosed-recipients:;
 
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OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY,
THE HONORABLE, GOVERNOR OF CBN.
TINUBU SQUARE, LAGOS- NIGERIA.
Date 13TH OF JANUARY;2010
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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 06:24:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C579318345E; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0Q2RXyuJ+dNGVQOMY6+H8w)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-14_03:2011-01-14,2011-01-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101130230 From: John Metzler Subject: Re: EDP as an Audio Sequencer Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:24:36 -0800 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <5F9BD87D-845D-4E83-9FBB-E36F9A0F080F@me.com> Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:24:40 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_0Q2RXyuJ+dNGVQOMY6+H8w) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for the replies. _________________________ Luis, I certainly and intimately understand your point about it not = being very fun trying to get these 2 EDP's to get along with the drum = machine. I just hope that I will succeed and not have lost all this = time for nothing. _______________________________ Hello Jim. I have tried the configuration you mentioned. I didn't try = a simple 10 second loop and wait to see if that stayed locked. I will = try that. My guess is that it will probably stay synced so long as I = don't try to do anything more than record the two 10 second loops and = let it run with the sequencer. But simple 10 second loops aren't what = I'm trying to do. However, I'm not trying to do anything more than what = the manual claims they are capable of. =20 I would love to hear more about your experience with your 3 EDPs = brother synced. I'm guessing you had 1 master set to Sync=3Din and and = 2 slaves brother synced with sync=3Dout and MIDI going from the Master = OUT to the IN of slave 1, the slave 1's OUT to slave 2's IN, and a = tip-ring-sleve-Y cable connected to all 3 Brother Sync jacks. Please = tell me more about how you used this. =20 I did discover that my MPC1000 might be a liar and a cheat. I = noticed that it was sending a command that didn't appear in the = sequence. I couldn't make sense of it. But when I rewrote the entire = sequence in step edit mode in a new sequence, it no longer sent the = ghost command. I think maybe the command was still in there in the = original sequence even though I couldn't see it listed. I think it = might have been the result of some editing and deleting that I had = previously done. If that's the case, then that's a pretty buggy OS from = AKAI. There is another ghost command that seems to be stuck in a = different sequence of mine. So I tried to fix it by copy and pasting = the tracks to new tracks and muting the old ones, hoping this might = clean it up. At the beginning of the sequence I have a Program Change = going out to place the EDP's into the proper Preset mode. The newly = pasted track appears the same in the Step Edit view. The same list of = commands. But when I play the new track with the old one muted, the = Program Change doesn't seem to be sent. Even though I see, the EDP's = don't see it. If I mute the new tracks and play the old ones, the EDP's = see the Program Change and change to the appropriate preset. Both = tracks have the same list of commands, exactly the same. So I never = even got to the ghost command that I was trying to clear up. I'm = thinking of trying the JJOS for my MPC1000. People seem to like it and = rave about it's stability. And AKAI has not responded to my emails. =20 I'm trying to keep this short. I know I just failed with that = last paragraph. I've noticed that being too thorough with the details = can sometimes turn potential help away. ---John M. _______________________________________________ On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:48 AM, james fowler wrote: > it's been years since i've had my hands on a hardware edp but i never = had problems with brother syncing and i had three edps running together. = might wanna try this (this is how i ran 'em): connect the = mpc/midi-generating device to ONE edp, which will be the master. = brother sync the "slave" to the "master". send basic commands...like = just get it to record a ten second loop. see if they slip out of sync = with this basic setup. this might at least help you locate where shit = is breaking down. =20 >=20 > - jim =20 >=20 > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Louie Angulo = wrote: > never got both to sync properly > use one or both independently is way more fun and less time = consuming;-) > cheers > Luis >=20 > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:08 AM, John Metzler wrote: > > Hello Loopers. > > > > I'd love to hear from some of you who have used multiple EDP's as an = audio sequencer with a MIDI sequencer/drum machine. I have an EDP for a = Bass Guitar and a second one for an Electric Guitar. I'm programing an = MPC 1000 to send the commands and MIDI Clock to the EDPs. I'm only = trying to do simple Verse/Chorus/Bridge stuff. I'll record a couple of = differently layered versions of a chorus and a verse and then trigger = the loops with switch-quantized loop trigger commands to arrange the = parts. I have not yet found a reliable way to keep both of the EDP's = from slipping out of time with each other. Even brother syncing them = slips most of the time. > > > > Andy and Matthias have both been helpful in pointing out some = possibilities. But unfortunately I haven't had any solid luck with any = method I've tried yet. I also asked an old list member named Claud = Voit, but he wasn't into making music with loops anymore. > > > > Any success stories out there using the same techniques I'm = employing? > > > > > > ---John AM. > > > > > > >=20 >=20 --Boundary_(ID_0Q2RXyuJ+dNGVQOMY6+H8w) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thank = you for the replies.
_________________________
Luis, I = certainly and intimately understand your point about it not being very = fun trying to get these 2 EDP's to get along with the drum machine. =  I just hope that I will succeed and not have lost all this time = for nothing.
_______________________________
Hello = Jim.  I have tried the configuration you mentioned.  I didn't = try a simple 10 second loop and wait to see if that stayed locked. =  I will try that.  My guess is that it will probably stay = synced so long as I don't try to do anything more than record the two 10 = second loops and let it run with the sequencer.  But simple 10 = second loops aren't what I'm trying to do.  However, I'm not trying = to do anything more than what the manual claims they are capable of. =   

I would love to hear more about = your experience with your 3 EDPs brother synced.  I'm guessing you = had 1 master set to Sync=3Din and and 2 slaves brother synced with = sync=3Dout and MIDI going from the Master OUT to the IN of slave 1, the = slave 1's OUT to slave 2's IN, and a tip-ring-sleve-Y cable connected to = all 3 Brother Sync jacks.  Please tell me more about how you used = this.  

I did discover that my MPC1000 = might be a liar and a cheat.  I noticed that it was sending a = command that didn't appear in the sequence.  I couldn't make sense = of it.  But when I rewrote the entire sequence in step edit mode in = a new sequence, it no longer sent the ghost command.  I think maybe = the command was still in there in the original sequence even though I = couldn't see it listed.  I think it might have been the result of = some editing and deleting that I had previously done.  If that's = the case, then that's a pretty buggy OS from AKAI.  There is = another ghost command that seems to be stuck in a different sequence of = mine.  So I tried to fix it by copy and pasting the tracks to new = tracks and muting the old ones, hoping this might clean it up.  At = the beginning of the sequence I have a Program Change going out to place = the EDP's into the proper Preset mode.  The newly pasted track = appears the same in the Step Edit view.  The same list of commands. =  But when I play the new track with the old one muted, the Program = Change doesn't seem to be sent.  Even though I see, the EDP's don't = see it.  If I mute the new tracks and play the old ones, the EDP's = see the Program Change and change to the appropriate preset.  Both = tracks have the same list of commands,  exactly the same.  So = I never even got to the ghost command that I was trying to clear up. =  I'm thinking of trying the JJOS for my MPC1000.  People seem = to like it and rave about it's stability.  And AKAI has not = responded to my emails.  

I'm = trying to keep this short.  I know I just failed with that last = paragraph.  I've noticed that being too thorough with the details = can sometimes turn potential help = away.

  ---John = M.

______________________________________________= _
On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:48 AM, james fowler = wrote:

it's been years since i've had my hands on a hardware edp = but i never had problems with brother syncing and i had three edps = running together.  might wanna try this (this is how i ran 'em): = connect the mpc/midi-generating device to ONE edp, which will be the = master.  brother sync the "slave" to the "master".  send basic = commands...like just get it to record a ten second loop.  see if = they slip out of sync with this basic setup.  this might at least = help you locate where shit is breaking down. 

- jim 

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 = at 3:52 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
never got both to sync properly
use one or both independently is way more fun and less time = consuming;-)
cheers
Luis

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:08 AM, John Metzler <jarofjam@me.com> wrote:
> Hello Loopers.
>
> I'd love to hear from some of you who have used multiple EDP's as = an audio sequencer with a MIDI sequencer/drum machine.  I have an = EDP for a Bass Guitar and a second one for an Electric Guitar.  I'm = programing an MPC 1000 to send the commands and MIDI Clock to the EDPs. =   I'm only trying to do simple Verse/Chorus/Bridge stuff. =  I'll record a couple of differently layered versions of a chorus = and a verse and then trigger the loops with switch-quantized loop = trigger commands to arrange the parts.  I have not yet found a = reliable way to keep both of the EDP's from slipping out of time with = each other.  Even brother syncing them slips most of the time.
>
> Andy and Matthias have both been helpful in pointing out some = possibilities.  But unfortunately I haven't had any solid luck with = any method I've tried yet.  I also asked an old list member named = Claud Voit, but he wasn't into making music with loops anymore.
>
> Any success stories out there using the same techniques I'm = employing?
>
>
> ---John AM.
>
>
>



= --Boundary_(ID_0Q2RXyuJ+dNGVQOMY6+H8w)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 07:12:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 792B018345D; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=GzJp88BBsXczG9e+py5cmLXSebpfykHuI2v/Twtgu+E=; b=OUx74GB43uRcPaX1lAnX2iyoQkbsMHmBWd2XUSnKhEiYPHhoGVncD5RqeYZpEnHZM+ yg1KAUEUf/Wku7aqBOLKEPPyXMUGqC9h7GYrlkpYI/S7Y57R+0ULeMID09VNMFmObexO LmRkF5rnqmHK6w6RxSEMz3VZbkBHyoUlp3FQs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=rWVCGm2NPrwebG2ODz459bTb0QBmkfHk5smIfY/2jsKHQzfYh624Z1yhwH0QQxFdwn IV1icmMLnk12qqgqhM3iS4+a5PUJ88hazcDz98G+lsqDcvMoegLtjJs12vpoqmzuoJyW bRPfrTXGiiwpstA/+EhU9zTL+dnvSiV1flZHU= References: <33169607.1294963012215.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D2FAF94.9060607@cruzio.com> <360ABB7B-91D3-4085-A408-65C1E2B38CD8@zoekeating.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <360ABB7B-91D3-4085-A408-65C1E2B38CD8@zoekeating.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:13:02 +0100 Message-ID: <-9057041919582467186@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305496bbe459c50499c92759 Resent-Message-ID: <-yoXgB.A.yeD.Yd_LNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:12:24 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305496bbe459c50499c92759 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Call me if /when that happens.. Job waiting.. =E2=98=BA Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 14 Jan 2011, at 04:11, Zoe Keating wrote: I'm lucky enough to be making a good living at music right now....but I assume it won't last, so I keep up my computer skills for the day I have to go back to tech! --20cf305496bbe459c50499c92759 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--20cf305496bbe459c50499c92759-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 07:20:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDD8018345A; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=fWdTkIAvFUy5R6PZBR1j+U7fT6xC/wFUOdduKqGYXW0=; b=MQN4ulVovny9W8Z1FpCR9SxJT7wcITwqPM5gfNHaVWiLH+3qQsv0Dk2ONDnoT8MNNe 2bZnqwrNWNjxs9LJq7Q3FzJIWjZbWZTtcVTj+7HdvRS6qnu90dUeUVQqOoLAFY2p7T57 kkQy6P/hdUSXavNwufx9qeOx6QYz6Vqt8ykgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=qNLc4u6whY3k3GQIZKcm/D70ZiE8C/ICvjFimQ6RmmYOruyXWdt9qpD4LuPaPSYVIh /xbbMK68nyeZXgryiL9Cvzd/9nIWklcSO3opgkGqkhxTafgah0iHJ3npraOdV/EtZ45+ hl6GhGRwEuLzShCbvcrIE4kbM8hgdt4/HkcWs= References: <5F9BD87D-845D-4E83-9FBB-E36F9A0F080F@me.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:20:40 +0100 Message-ID: <-3048062739642626355@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: EDP as an Audio Sequencer To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8ba4825b7d0499c9430c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:20:08 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8ba4825b7d0499c9430c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just a short question from one who has 2 perfectly synching edps... Are you sending pgm changes to edp? Send midi notes... I find that they miss fire less than pgm changes. I use a crap old drum machine to send midi notes to 2 edps, just record, next loop, etc and it works well.... Maybe you could try sampler style, and re trigger loops on every bar? Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 14 Jan 2011, at 07:24, John Metzler wrote: Thank you for the replies. _________________________ Luis, I certainly and intimately understand your point about it not being very fun trying to get these 2 EDP's to get along with the drum machine. I just hope that I will succeed and not have lost all this time for nothing. _______________________________ Hello Jim. I have tried the configuration you mentioned. I didn't try a simple 10 second loop and wait to see if that stayed locked. I will try that. My guess is that it will probably stay synced so long as I don't try to do anything more than record the two 10 second loops and let it run with the sequencer. But simple 10 second loops aren't what I'm trying to do. However, I'm not trying to do anything more than what the manual claims they are capable of. I would love to hear more about your experience with your 3 EDPs brother synced. I'm guessing you had 1 master set to Sync=in and and 2 slaves brother synced with sync=out and MIDI going from the Master OUT to the IN of slave 1, the slave 1's OUT to slave 2's IN, and a tip-ring-sleve-Y cable connected to all 3 Brother Sync jacks. Please tell me more about how you used this. I did discover that my MPC1000 might be a liar and a cheat. I noticed that it was sending a command that didn't appear in the sequence. I couldn't make sense of it. But when I rewrote the entire sequence in step edit mode in a new sequence, it no longer sent the ghost command. I think maybe the command was still in there in the original sequence even though I couldn't see it listed. I think it might have been the result of some editing and deleting that I had previously done. If that's the case, then that's a pretty buggy OS from AKAI. There is another ghost command that seems to be stuck in a different sequence of mine. So I tried to fix it by copy and pasting the tracks to new tracks and muting the old ones, hoping this might clean it up. At the beginning of the sequence I have a Program Change going out to place the EDP's into the proper Preset mode. The newly pasted track appears the same in the Step Edit view. The same list of commands. But when I play the new track with the old one muted, the Program Change doesn't seem to be sent. Even though I see, the EDP's don't see it. If I mute the new tracks and play the old ones, the EDP's see the Program Change and change to the appropriate preset. Both tracks have the same list of commands, exactly the same. So I never even got to the ghost command that I was trying to clear up. I'm thinking of trying the JJOS for my MPC1000. People seem to like it and rave about it's stability. And AKAI has not responded to my emails. I'm trying to keep this short. I know I just failed with that last paragraph. I've noticed that being too thorough with the details can sometimes turn potential help away. ---John M. _______________________________________________ On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:48 AM, james fowler wrote: it's been years since i've had my hands on a hardware edp but i never had problems with brother syncing and i had three edps running together. might wanna try this (this is how i ran 'em): connect the mpc/midi-generating device to ONE edp, which will be the master. brother sync the "slave" to the "master". send basic commands...like just get it to record a ten second loop. see if they slip out of sync with this basic setup. this might at least help you locate where shit is breaking down. - jim On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > never got both to sync properly > use one or both independently is way more fun and less time consuming;-) > cheers > Luis > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:08 AM, John Metzler wrote: > > Hello Loopers. > > > > I'd love to hear from some of you who have used multiple EDP's as an > audio sequencer with a MIDI sequencer/drum machine. I have an EDP for a > Bass Guitar and a second one for an Electric Guitar. I'm programing an MPC > 1000 to send the commands and MIDI Clock to the EDPs. I'm only trying to > do simple Verse/Chorus/Bridge stuff. I'll record a couple of differently > layered versions of a chorus and a verse and then trigger the loops with > switch-quantized loop trigger commands to arrange the parts. I have not yet > found a reliable way to keep both of the EDP's from slipping out of time > with each other. Even brother syncing them slips most of the time. > > > > Andy and Matthias have both been helpful in pointing out some > possibilities. But unfortunately I haven't had any solid luck with any > method I've tried yet. I also asked an old list member named Claud Voit, > but he wasn't into making music with loops anymore. > > > > Any success stories out there using the same techniques I'm employing? > > > > > > ---John AM. > > > > > > > > --90e6ba6e8ba4825b7d0499c9430c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a short question from one who has= 2 perfectly synching edps... Are you sending pgm changes to edp? Send midi= notes... I find that they miss fire less than pgm changes. I use a crap ol= d drum machine to send midi notes to 2 edps, just record, next loop, etc an= d it works well.... Maybe you could try sampler style, and re trigger loops= on every bar?

Mark

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On 14 Jan 2011, at 07:24, John Metzler <jarofjam@me.com> wrote:

Thank you for the replies.
_________________________
Lui= s, I certainly and intimately understand your point about it not being very= fun trying to get these 2 EDP's to get along with the drum machine. = =A0I just hope that I will succeed and not have lost all this time for noth= ing.
_______________________________
Hello Jim. =A0I have tried t= he configuration you mentioned. =A0I didn't try a simple 10 second loop= and wait to see if that stayed locked. =A0I will try that. =A0My guess is = that it will probably stay synced so long as I don't try to do anything= more than record the two 10 second loops and let it run with the sequencer= . =A0But=A0simple 10 second loops aren't what I'm trying to do. =A0= However, I'm not trying to do anything more than what the manual claims= they are capable of. =A0=A0

I would love to hear more about your experience with your 3 EDPs = brother synced. =A0I'm guessing you had 1 master set to Sync=3Din and a= nd 2 slaves brother synced with sync=3Dout and MIDI going from the Master O= UT to the IN of slave 1, the slave 1's OUT to slave 2's IN, and a t= ip-ring-sleve-Y cable connected to all 3 Brother Sync jacks. =A0Please tell= me more about how you used this. =A0

I did discover that my MPC1000 might be a liar and a cheat. =A0I = noticed that it was sending a command that didn't appear in the sequenc= e. =A0I couldn't make sense of it. =A0But when I rewrote the entire seq= uence in step edit mode in a new sequence, it no longer sent the ghost comm= and. =A0I think maybe the command was still in there in the original sequen= ce even though I couldn't see it listed. =A0I think it might have been = the result of some editing and deleting that I had previously done. =A0If t= hat's the case, then that's a pretty buggy OS from AKAI. =A0There i= s another ghost command that seems to be stuck in a different sequence of m= ine. =A0So I tried to fix it by copy and pasting the tracks to new tracks a= nd muting the old ones, hoping this might clean it up. =A0At the beginning = of the sequence I have a Program Change going out to place the EDP's in= to the proper Preset mode. =A0The newly pasted track appears the same in th= e Step Edit view. =A0The same list of commands. =A0But when I play the new = track with the old one muted, the Program Change doesn't seem to be sen= t. =A0Even though I see, the EDP's don't see it. =A0If I mute the n= ew tracks and play the old ones, the EDP's see the Program Change and c= hange to the appropriate preset. =A0Both tracks have the same list of comma= nds, =A0exactly the same. =A0So I never even got to the ghost command that = I was trying to clear up. =A0I'm thinking of trying the JJOS for my MPC= 1000. =A0People seem to like it and rave about it's stability. =A0And A= KAI has not responded to my emails. =A0

I'm trying to keep this short. =A0I know I just failed with t= hat last paragraph. =A0I've noticed that being too thorough with the de= tails can sometimes turn potential help away.

=A0=A0---John M.

_____________= __________________________________
On Jan 13, 2011, at = 6:48 AM, james fowler wrote:

<= blockquote type=3D"cite"> it's been years since i've had my hands on a hardware edp but i nev= er had problems with brother syncing and i had three edps running together.= =A0 might wanna try this (this is how i ran 'em): connect the mpc/midi-= generating device to ONE edp, which will be the master.=A0 brother sync the= "slave" to the "master".=A0 send basic commands...like= just get it to record a ten second loop.=A0 see if they slip out of sync w= ith this basic setup.=A0 this might at least help you locate where shit is = breaking down.=A0

- jim=A0

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:5= 2 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@go= oglemail.com> wrote:
never got both to sync properly
use one or both independently is way more fun and less time consuming;-) cheers
Luis

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:08 AM, John Metzler <jarofjam@me.com> wr= ote:
> Hello Loopers.
>
> I'd love to hear from some of you who have used multiple EDP's= as an audio sequencer with a MIDI sequencer/drum machine. =A0I have an EDP= for a Bass Guitar and a second one for an Electric Guitar. =A0I'm prog= raming an MPC 1000 to send the commands and MIDI Clock to the EDPs. =A0 I&#= 39;m only trying to do simple Verse/Chorus/Bridge stuff. =A0I'll record= a couple of differently layered versions of a chorus and a verse and then = trigger the loops with switch-quantized loop trigger commands to arrange th= e parts. =A0I have not yet found a reliable way to keep both of the EDP'= ;s from slipping out of time with each other. =A0Even brother syncing them = slips most of the time.
>
> Andy and Matthias have both been helpful in pointing out some possibil= ities. =A0But unfortunately I haven't had any solid luck with any metho= d I've tried yet. =A0I also asked an old list member named Claud Voit, = but he wasn't into making music with loops anymore.
>
> Any success stories out there using the same techniques I'm employ= ing?
>
>
> ---John AM.
>
>
>



--90e6ba6e8ba4825b7d0499c9430c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 07:43:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1E6618345E; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YaAkV+IHr/gxF3mrbW99Eg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-14_03:2011-01-14,2011-01-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101130237 From: John Metzler Subject: Re: EDP as an Audio Sequencer Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:43:45 -0800 In-reply-to: <-3048062739642626355@unknownmsgid> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <5F9BD87D-845D-4E83-9FBB-E36F9A0F080F@me.com> <-3048062739642626355@unknownmsgid> Message-id: <35E39760-5063-45A4-A229-6D9B9CCA03F2@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:43:49 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_YaAkV+IHr/gxF3mrbW99Eg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark. =20 I'm only sending a Program Change to each EDP to initiate one of = the Presets. You know how you can save something like 14 different = configurations of parameters, and then recall those "Presets" of = parameters by sending a Program Change? That's the only time. And = that's just at the very beginning of a sequence, right after a general = reset command, and before a CC#1=3D127, and CC#7=3D127, to make sure = that I start out with Loop Volume and Feedback set all the way up. I am = using MIDI Notes to trigger the commands. I haven't tried Sampler Style = and Re-triggering the loops at every bar. But I did try a sequence of = ReAlign commands sent to each EDP just before the beginning of every 4 = bar loop. It looked like it was going well until things got off by a = cycle and made a mess of the song. I combed through the lines in the = sequence programing trying to find where the misplaced ReAlign command = was and couldn't find it. That's when I really started to suspect my = MPC1000 of unruly shenanigans. =20 If we don't learn to control the machines and keep them = subservient to us, then they're just gonna take over. I want them to do = what I tell them to, not the other way around. =20 : ) ---John M. __________________________________________ On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:20 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Just a short question from one who has 2 perfectly synching edps... = Are you sending pgm changes to edp? Send midi notes... I find that they = miss fire less than pgm changes. I use a crap old drum machine to send = midi notes to 2 edps, just record, next loop, etc and it works well.... = Maybe you could try sampler style, and re trigger loops on every bar? >=20 > Mark >=20 > Sent from my (advertisement removed) >=20 > On 14 Jan 2011, at 07:24, John Metzler wrote: >=20 >> Thank you for the replies. >> _________________________ >> Luis, I certainly and intimately understand your point about it not = being very fun trying to get these 2 EDP's to get along with the drum = machine. I just hope that I will succeed and not have lost all this = time for nothing. >> _______________________________ >> Hello Jim. I have tried the configuration you mentioned. I didn't = try a simple 10 second loop and wait to see if that stayed locked. I = will try that. My guess is that it will probably stay synced so long as = I don't try to do anything more than record the two 10 second loops and = let it run with the sequencer. But simple 10 second loops aren't what = I'm trying to do. However, I'm not trying to do anything more than what = the manual claims they are capable of. =20 >>=20 >> I would love to hear more about your experience with your 3 EDPs = brother synced. I'm guessing you had 1 master set to Sync=3Din and and = 2 slaves brother synced with sync=3Dout and MIDI going from the Master = OUT to the IN of slave 1, the slave 1's OUT to slave 2's IN, and a = tip-ring-sleve-Y cable connected to all 3 Brother Sync jacks. Please = tell me more about how you used this. =20 >>=20 >> I did discover that my MPC1000 might be a liar and a cheat. I = noticed that it was sending a command that didn't appear in the = sequence. I couldn't make sense of it. But when I rewrote the entire = sequence in step edit mode in a new sequence, it no longer sent the = ghost command. I think maybe the command was still in there in the = original sequence even though I couldn't see it listed. I think it = might have been the result of some editing and deleting that I had = previously done. If that's the case, then that's a pretty buggy OS from = AKAI. There is another ghost command that seems to be stuck in a = different sequence of mine. So I tried to fix it by copy and pasting = the tracks to new tracks and muting the old ones, hoping this might = clean it up. At the beginning of the sequence I have a Program Change = going out to place the EDP's into the proper Preset mode. The newly = pasted track appears the same in the Step Edit view. The same list of = commands. But when I play the new track with the old one muted, the = Program Change doesn't seem to be sent. Even though I see, the EDP's = don't see it. If I mute the new tracks and play the old ones, the EDP's = see the Program Change and change to the appropriate preset. Both = tracks have the same list of commands, exactly the same. So I never = even got to the ghost command that I was trying to clear up. I'm = thinking of trying the JJOS for my MPC1000. People seem to like it and = rave about it's stability. And AKAI has not responded to my emails. =20 >>=20 >> I'm trying to keep this short. I know I just failed with that = last paragraph. I've noticed that being too thorough with the details = can sometimes turn potential help away. >>=20 >> ---John M. >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:48 AM, james fowler wrote: >>=20 >>> it's been years since i've had my hands on a hardware edp but i = never had problems with brother syncing and i had three edps running = together. might wanna try this (this is how i ran 'em): connect the = mpc/midi-generating device to ONE edp, which will be the master. = brother sync the "slave" to the "master". send basic commands...like = just get it to record a ten second loop. see if they slip out of sync = with this basic setup. this might at least help you locate where shit = is breaking down. =20 >>>=20 >>> - jim =20 >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Louie Angulo = wrote: >>> never got both to sync properly >>> use one or both independently is way more fun and less time = consuming;-) >>> cheers >>> Luis >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:08 AM, John Metzler = wrote: >>> > Hello Loopers. >>> > >>> > I'd love to hear from some of you who have used multiple EDP's as = an audio sequencer with a MIDI sequencer/drum machine. I have an EDP = for a Bass Guitar and a second one for an Electric Guitar. I'm = programing an MPC 1000 to send the commands and MIDI Clock to the EDPs. = I'm only trying to do simple Verse/Chorus/Bridge stuff. I'll record a = couple of differently layered versions of a chorus and a verse and then = trigger the loops with switch-quantized loop trigger commands to arrange = the parts. I have not yet found a reliable way to keep both of the = EDP's from slipping out of time with each other. Even brother syncing = them slips most of the time. >>> > >>> > Andy and Matthias have both been helpful in pointing out some = possibilities. But unfortunately I haven't had any solid luck with any = method I've tried yet. I also asked an old list member named Claud = Voit, but he wasn't into making music with loops anymore. >>> > >>> > Any success stories out there using the same techniques I'm = employing? >>> > >>> > >>> > ---John AM. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 --Boundary_(ID_YaAkV+IHr/gxF3mrbW99Eg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi = Mark.  

I'm only sending a Program Change = to each EDP to initiate one of the Presets.  You know how you can = save something like 14 different configurations of parameters, and then = recall those "Presets" of parameters by sending a Program Change? =  That's the only time.  And that's just at the very beginning = of a sequence, right after a general reset command, and before a =  CC#1=3D127, and CC#7=3D127, to make sure that I start out with = Loop Volume and Feedback set all the way up.  I am using MIDI Notes = to trigger the commands.  I haven't tried Sampler Style and = Re-triggering the loops at every bar.  But I did try a sequence of = ReAlign commands sent to each EDP just before the beginning of every 4 = bar loop.  It looked like it was going well until things got off by = a cycle and made a mess of the song.  I combed through the lines in = the sequence programing trying to find where the misplaced ReAlign = command was and couldn't find it.  That's when I really started to = suspect my MPC1000 of unruly shenanigans. =  

If we don't learn to control the = machines and keep them subservient to us, then they're just gonna take = over.  I want them to do what I tell them to, not the other way = around.  

: = )

---John = M.
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On = Jan 13, 2011, at 11:20 PM, mark francombe wrote:

Just a short question from one who has 2 = perfectly synching edps... Are you sending pgm changes to edp? Send midi = notes... I find that they miss fire less than pgm changes. I use a crap = old drum machine to send midi notes to 2 edps, just record, next loop, = etc and it works well.... Maybe you could try sampler style, and re = trigger loops on every bar?

Mark

Sent from my (advertisement = removed)

On 14 Jan 2011, at 07:24, John Metzler <jarofjam@me.com> = wrote:

Thank you for the = replies.
_________________________
Luis, I certainly and = intimately understand your point about it not being very fun trying to = get these 2 EDP's to get along with the drum machine.  I just hope = that I will succeed and not have lost all this time for nothing.
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Hello Jim.  I have = tried the configuration you mentioned.  I didn't try a simple 10 = second loop and wait to see if that stayed locked.  I will try = that.  My guess is that it will probably stay synced so long as I = don't try to do anything more than record the two 10 second loops and = let it run with the sequencer.  But simple 10 second loops = aren't what I'm trying to do.  However, I'm not trying to do = anything more than what the manual claims they are capable of. =   

I would love to hear more about = your experience with your 3 EDPs brother synced.  I'm guessing you = had 1 master set to Sync=3Din and and 2 slaves brother synced with = sync=3Dout and MIDI going from the Master OUT to the IN of slave 1, the = slave 1's OUT to slave 2's IN, and a tip-ring-sleve-Y cable connected to = all 3 Brother Sync jacks.  Please tell me more about how you used = this.  

I did discover that my MPC1000 = might be a liar and a cheat.  I noticed that it was sending a = command that didn't appear in the sequence.  I couldn't make sense = of it.  But when I rewrote the entire sequence in step edit mode in = a new sequence, it no longer sent the ghost command.  I think maybe = the command was still in there in the original sequence even though I = couldn't see it listed.  I think it might have been the result of = some editing and deleting that I had previously done.  If that's = the case, then that's a pretty buggy OS from AKAI.  There is = another ghost command that seems to be stuck in a different sequence of = mine.  So I tried to fix it by copy and pasting the tracks to new = tracks and muting the old ones, hoping this might clean it up.  At = the beginning of the sequence I have a Program Change going out to place = the EDP's into the proper Preset mode.  The newly pasted track = appears the same in the Step Edit view.  The same list of commands. =  But when I play the new track with the old one muted, the Program = Change doesn't seem to be sent.  Even though I see, the EDP's don't = see it.  If I mute the new tracks and play the old ones, the EDP's = see the Program Change and change to the appropriate preset.  Both = tracks have the same list of commands,  exactly the same.  So = I never even got to the ghost command that I was trying to clear up. =  I'm thinking of trying the JJOS for my MPC1000.  People seem = to like it and rave about it's stability.  And AKAI has not = responded to my emails.  

I'm trying to keep this short. =  I know I just failed with that last paragraph.  I've noticed = that being too thorough with the details can sometimes turn potential = help away.

  ---John = M.

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On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:48 AM, james fowler = wrote:

it's been years since i've had my hands on a hardware edp but i never = had problems with brother syncing and i had three edps running = together.  might wanna try this (this is how i ran 'em): connect = the mpc/midi-generating device to ONE edp, which will be the = master.  brother sync the "slave" to the "master".  send basic = commands...like just get it to record a ten second loop.  see if = they slip out of sync with this basic setup.  this might at least = help you locate where shit is breaking down. 

- jim 

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 = at 3:52 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
never got both to sync properly
use one or both independently is way more fun and less time = consuming;-)
cheers
Luis

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:08 AM, John Metzler <jarofjam@me.com> wrote:
> Hello Loopers.
>
> I'd love to hear from some of you who have used multiple EDP's as = an audio sequencer with a MIDI sequencer/drum machine.  I have an = EDP for a Bass Guitar and a second one for an Electric Guitar.  I'm = programing an MPC 1000 to send the commands and MIDI Clock to the EDPs. =   I'm only trying to do simple Verse/Chorus/Bridge stuff. =  I'll record a couple of differently layered versions of a chorus = and a verse and then trigger the loops with switch-quantized loop = trigger commands to arrange the parts.  I have not yet found a = reliable way to keep both of the EDP's from slipping out of time with = each other.  Even brother syncing them slips most of the time.
>
> Andy and Matthias have both been helpful in pointing out some = possibilities.  But unfortunately I haven't had any solid luck with = any method I've tried yet.  I also asked an old list member named = Claud Voit, but he wasn't into making music with loops anymore.
>
> Any success stories out there using the same techniques I'm = employing?
>
>
> ---John AM.
>
>
>




= --Boundary_(ID_YaAkV+IHr/gxF3mrbW99Eg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 07:56:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FBFA18345E; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 334539.13360.bm@omp1032.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294991757; bh=3p7sXLB57gAe+jK51JuqKUNTlmohc249zfm6d7Ol+7o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mp+UqIQumKjqY43dQJ/Pu6JRllT5Z/GAKGpV+ULJcGdOdlVKzLzJMQjAuc2+gzHOdv2ZxT4yBoNx94wGzuCoTUeKC6swjvVPJE2oudXJjUnkGT/iS0io+dQzSQ44S78VMo9k87yLtw9GtyqDQz7XqEfSagUsMexVKuaKvxVAOvM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SxEzbhNqGt3RFgxFwzyUNWJP5X+UqFhUHfK8Hi7qzznUD0IuSlr7zhf3zIWuzgty+zJLfwmbV0dOcY0mAC+8s2ij1ZvAVP0vgB7BxcmElYcl3X82+kHV9OKkkSjtSUXWxpGsx2mQdIr7UHGXla+NGHIOJ/J/kpy04ASRufolUzo=; Message-ID: <918423.68207.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NyX5JfwVM1kDAxMYtkz5pjHR.tZenOipM8oKs0QkzPe8SiO vh5jOk3aykY0knvShuyIeobxXnJbiHxEW2maVNP1Bp1vw8FPzs4v3rCSXSfD b5go8oh2di114dnDV2Jy5ZCcyk4d_9mtwMX.D67eTrIYJiwN9kujUExOWbNJ R6kZgyhhk4zeqBIezBCLPI8HR.aplgUGTdCZ4IWFAwVHhiIP_9RlRehj6pnT GkvA2p6q.qvUrAlh3jxkA4BRt9O5zJuV48KlL7eommrhi0gWoyO3csKAM1Rg iss9J1LxknqxcH6ZoAuvh3P1qGh.tYPFWogBSeAAlDNP3gkJNWpxDqMnWVSc .zwZgOx6_iO_qATCDIPqqzqNMec0oDO_Bkr_6GQV_V1ZY4KoLWRlSGUbs3EK x0FuPLGsj7QN0n2Qn X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:55:57 -0800 (PST) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-386208939-1294991757=:68207" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:56:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-386208939-1294991757=:68207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guess I'll chime in on this one ..seems like every one works this one out d= ifferently ..I've been surviving on what i make playing for 2 years now..be= fore that i was working in the corporate sector....the last job was an 8 ye= ar stint with no complaints from higher up....till one day they walked in a= nd basically said "your job has been eliminated ..don't let the door hit yo= u in the ass" hey around here it happens a lot. I've been gigging off and o= n, solo and with bands for years and never jumped into it full time..when t= his happened i was just turning 50....i figured if i played for a living...= .it would be better than being involved with all the corporate garbage i wa= s daily .and playing music ,the credit, the blame, and the cash went to me = ....so that's what i did....i play two gigs a week normally....rent 100$ ro= om in the burbs...drive a 20 year old car....i get by....one gig dries up..= .i find another.....it took me years and finally corporate BS to convince me this is what i was designed to do ....if i die a pauper .. so = be it......i love my art. Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dobgm3kTi5bs =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 =A0http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 --0-386208939-1294991757=:68207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22
Johnston, IA  50131   &= nbsp;        

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--0-386208939-1294991757=:68207-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 08:03:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E03318345D; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=CfuMTMQS5aD0NgyyXEy2IAyXhGOwhOQOSZLZwhgQpkw=; b=QXARzJC2knElhDtPtlzVialSy531kUeI/KYSZlBXjbpONhClUgXgbDC8CkhDbWbV2C HBlLxtFlH7WsYoX4EEwEvmtOHS8dFqJlCMvC5LQ+H9EngQZ1X6bNW/5/lSMqiYj19ao8 EgKDR2BsIreHltk13VXJ836IaoP4K4OuVl10o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=bw3PxmzlgNdTlXfo9t1KacKeiQeml66FYknHHYRDbO56GufjZQZP5uCrOBdo/SdOuf wrca8hw1IgTuqbS7CEcPK440dDXIrRsY8+I8FoZnG831Vhvk7smUkD+bzOzSLhs5W5if +M1LJZDGGpAKV58MsDVXdkYP2d+err5z5yxa0= References: <5F9BD87D-845D-4E83-9FBB-E36F9A0F080F@me.com> <-3048062739642626355@unknownmsgid> <35E39760-5063-45A4-A229-6D9B9CCA03F2@me.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <35E39760-5063-45A4-A229-6D9B9CCA03F2@me.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:03:56 +0100 Message-ID: <5547005010007687886@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: EDP as an Audio Sequencer To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:03:30 +0000 (UTC) How frighteningly true!! Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 14 Jan 2011, at 08:43, John Metzler wrote: > If we don't learn to control the machines and keep them subservient to us, then they're just gonna take over. I want them to do what I tell them to, not the other way around. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 08:04:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 983A3183478; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CsseYd87FTmH9TUVJCs7MUrbnHcgZqSYSH0qPtDAINM=; b=SJxgLLgh5jP1dLjYQtPy7HS5cwEM4+d1/4NmqRQPZjiD0OftyeWkQl0/awB0gySL3B 4YErfuPSeL8FiChWN9qS9/QdfFcXNA1ClTp+cRgbJTDe/zPi+7BtwUMKgHiPwzdyd7Fl 4ULeWQaJrO7lRxdRhVqZFNhGYkJi1sLQLidSw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cBNEMaHFNZo4nBq/gQya7JrhYtn0uRZFNXl2ijs+ccZlgM2PiQ+/iwOvl3yeqU16RL Cikg9++z3bUm4R1EXjFpw0dfm0DK7/yhDTRMhuL1k+gTwA8hEmjPKoxzMoAFJfrtnw/k 0GllRWeYY5hq9cGqTcjol3atHFexN9LsAGE2g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <918423.68207.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <918423.68207.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:04:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325557956d701bc0499c9e130 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:04:25 +0000 (UTC) --000325557956d701bc0499c9e130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 respect brother! On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:55 AM, K D Patten wrote: > Guess I'll chime in on this one ..seems like every one works this one out > differently ..I've been surviving on what i make playing for 2 years > now..before that i was working in the corporate sector....the last job was > an 8 year stint with no complaints from higher up....till one day they > walked in and basically said "your job has been eliminated ..don't let the > door hit you in the ass" hey around here it happens a lot. I've been > gigging off and on, solo and with bands for years and never jumped into it > full time..when this happened i was just turning 50....i figured if i > played for a living....it would be better than being involved with all the > corporate garbage i was daily .and playing music ,the credit, the blame, and > the cash went to me ....so that's what i did....i play two gigs a week > normally....rent 100$ room in the burbs...drive a 20 year old car....i get > by....one gig dries up...i find another.....it took me years and finally > corporate BS to convince me this is what i was designed to do ....if i die a > pauper .. so be it......i love my art. > > Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA 50131 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obgm3kTi5bs > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9g93s0q3uc > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten > http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten > > > > > > --000325557956d701bc0499c9e130 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable respect brother!

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at = 8:55 AM, K D Patten <kdpatten@yahoo.com> wrote:
Gues= s I'll chime in on this one ..seems like every one works this one out d= ifferently ..I've been surviving on what i make playing for 2 years now= ..before that i was working in the corporate sector....the last job was an = 8 year stint with no complaints from higher up....till one day they walked = in and basically said "your job has been eliminated ..don't let th= e door hit you in the ass" hey around here it happens a lot. I've<= span> been gigging off and on, solo and with bands for years and nev= er jumped into it full time..when this happened i was just tur= ning 50....i figured if i played for a living....it would be better than be= ing involved with all the corporate garbage i was daily .and playing music = ,the credit, the blame, and the cash went to me ....so that's what i di= d....i play two gigs a week normally....rent 100$ room in the burbs...drive a 20 year old car....i get= by....one gig dries up...i find another.....it took me years and finally c= orporate BS to convince me this is what i was designed to do ....if i die a= pauper .. so be it......i love my art.



--000325557956d701bc0499c9e130-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 08:16:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C22DC18345E; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <918423.68207.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: should musicians have a second job? Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:16:19 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <918423.68207.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Acuzwa+hDMfT3Fj+RB+YhVwNwD+KhgAAIisg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: <_mrTC.A.5mF.YZAMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:16:24 +0000 (UTC) > if i die a pauper .. so be it......i love my art the world needs your art! you have a beautiful voice. I enjoyed your videos. -Michael (24 year old car, and trying to survive as a programmer which is also difficult at the moment) ________________________________ From: K D Patten [mailto:kdpatten@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:56 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? Guess I'll chime in on this one ..seems like every one works this one out differently ..I've been surviving on what i make playing for 2 years now..before that i was working in the corporate sector....the last job was an 8 year stint with no complaints from higher up....till one day they walked in and basically said "your job has been eliminated ..don't let the door hit you in the ass" hey around here it happens a lot. I've been gigging off and on, solo and with bands for years and never jumped into it full time..when this happened i was just turning 50....i figured if i played for a living....it would be better than being involved with all the corporate garbage i was daily .and playing music ,the credit, the blame, and the cash went to me ....so that's what i did....i play two gigs a week normally....rent 100$ room in the burbs...drive a 20 year old car....i get by....one gig dries up...i find another.....it took me years and finally corporate BS to convince me this is what i was designed to do ....if i die a pauper .. so be it......i love my art. Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA 50131 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obgm3kTi5bs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9g93s0q3uc http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 08:19:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49EBC18345E; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T+/txO2Wh3cqJFb05YiZYSYIjdIbV3FbAXHzO4GGOCA=; b=PRnn5KNHYJULU7ARsxxc3DOX2X11ENql7t+++PqEkTN3MeT6t3zxyLNbNLRLiZzzth 9VByuQkjg/+WZe05DI7zFEB+svf/AM9MiZ2FeQLReCM7Ehz4VsPmxOahZJ6/6GLAldjd PbF9G4nUMAa24pDSCrgaa/7uuvEe706hyYxSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Uwt3bBTrS5UpxkSalaaieNHD/fLFfXqyHQKNTmWh5VGAkpJcFdbLK0AAs9o/yIBOdt 53DyGI/wqutXnkY1kLCgKe8/5DV1e+lhS7cVmbBdVf44ygjqIkkM8tgyp7Qywj7Q4PDK 3A9eZ39l1o7/HwEpqd3ZcfX8Pii4JVvHKTdaA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:19:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non UNO Mac Editor... Anyone? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <89WkGC.A.AxF.icAMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Hey Mark i forgot to mention,i have windows in my mac laptop and run Ripwerx for my UnO chip FCB,works great but i have to boot under windows and wont work with parallels i believe. Cheers Luis On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:06 PM, mark francombe wr= ote: > I tried Parrallels once, didnt work well enough for me, If I ever REALLY > need to do a Windows thing, Ill do the Windows partition thing... > But its good to hear that iFCB is OK, Ill prob buy the firmware, thanks f= or > all the advice guys... > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Sylvain Poitras > wrote: >> >> You know, there are ways of running windows software in OS X. =A0I use >> WineBottler (free) for a couple apps and it works great. =A0In fact, >> I've recently winebottled a bunch of my old windows games. =A0They >> actually run better this way then when I load them up in my windows 7 >> partition (another option if you have a spare windows licence >> collecting dust). >> >> have a look here to get started : >> >> >> http://lifehacker.com/5521308/how-to-seamlessly-run-that-one-windows-app= -you-need-on-a-mac >> >> Sylvain >> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Dennis Moser >> wrote: >> > Mark, >> > >> > Have you also posted this to the FCB Yahoo group? Lots of UNO users >> > AND non-UNO users over there. iFCB works just fine on the Mac, but >> > yes, you will need to update your firmware as you already know. And >> > the upgrade is definitely cheaper than a new FCB or Gordius. >> > >> > I don't use the UNO chip, so I'm not sure about any native Mac editors >> > for use with it...but as I said, the FCB group should have the >> > information. >> > >> > Good luck! >> > >> > Dennis >> > >> > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> > http://audiozoloft.com >> > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:05 AM, mark francombe >> > wrote: >> >> Sorry I thought I made it clear.. I have a VERY OLD FCB... with >> >> firmware 1.0 >> >> definately no UNO chip. I know that iFCB dont work with 1.0 but it wi= ll >> >> with >> >> 2.0 . In dont think I need UNO chip unless I can edit on a mac.. Brun= o >> >> say >> >> it works well... >> >> >> >> As for Softstep Luis... I really want it to succeed, so I have not >> >> trumpeted >> >> my decision on that. I sent it back. Not based on the flaky software,= I >> >> think that will be ok in the long run. I didnt like the feel of the >> >> buttons. >> >> I discovered that I NEED a physical CLICK. I suggest they put a tiny >> >> Solenoid on the pedal. to "fake" some feeling of a click... >> >> >> >> So Im back to the FCB, a few switches are dodgy.. I may open it up an= d >> >> fix >> >> it.. but Im also waiting for to afford Gordius.. and for them to >> >> release mac >> >> software too.. in the pipe I think... >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Louie Angulo >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> guys keep misleading Mark! >> >>> the iFCB will work on a Mac but it will not work with the UnO chip >> >>> mounted on the FCB >> >>> the answer is quite clear under the FAQ >> >>> >> >>> question: I use an Intel-Mac and this application is too slow to be >> >>> used. >> >>> answer:Very sorry about this. There is no immediate solution. Here a= re >> >>> some dissapointing suggestions: >> >>> >> >>> =A0 =A0* Run Windows on your Mac >> >>> =A0 =A0* Go back to using original Behringer fimware. You can then u= se >> >>> iFCB >> >>> >> >>> dont even try it,ive tried dowloading mandolane etc. but wont work >> >>> properly >> >>> quite disapointing... >> >>> Luis >> >>> P.S. hey Mark i thoguth you have gotten the Softstep whats the crack >> >>> now? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, mark francombe >> >>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Great to hear Bruno... I might consider upgrading my firmware (If = it >> >>> > doesnt >> >>> > cost more than a new FCB... ha ha) I checked the software, and it >> >>> > looked >> >>> > great... but didnt work on my FCB.. and it toook a while before I >> >>> > rad >> >>> > the >> >>> > manual... "...doesnt work on old firmware or INO chip") >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > cheers for the feedback >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Mark >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld >> >>> > >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> The iFCB things works well. Nice UI and nice support from the guy= . >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > mark francombe >> >>> > www.markfrancombe.com >> >>> > www.ordoabkhao.com >> >>> > twitter @markfrancombe >> >>> > http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> >>> > http://www.looop.no >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> mark francombe >> >> www.markfrancombe.com >> >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> >> twitter @markfrancombe >> >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> >> http://www.looop.no >> >> >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 08:25:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31F6718345D; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:25:32 +0100 From: buzap@gmx.net In-Reply-To: <918423.68207.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110114082532.195420@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <918423.68207.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/BiBA/izfBpIMRm/7HJVPVnLAtqAJtffQdFTvAJc zpxYYbls4QBPtSwCzehHogpbd1lfYOABkjOA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: EmVSGRFsbXB+bcxpyTU2HjgiLyUmZQgA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Here is my observation: _All_ people I know who make a decent living as a professional, full-time musician fulfill the following: - They got a solid music education early in their life, proficiently playing instruments way before turning 10 years. - They come from a family with a musicianship background or established in some sort of art. - They have been well connected in an artistic network already in their youth. - They had a musical certification already in school. - They have studied their musical field in a well-known institution, with well-known teachers. - Most of them won an award as a teen or early twen. - All of them collaborated with the best musicians in the world within their musical domain in their early 20s. So my take is: Unless you fulfill this criteria or catch up with it until you're ca. 25 years old, it will be very very hard to make a decent living as a 100% musician your whole life. This doesn't mean you can't be incredibly creative, inspire a lot of people, be a pioneer in the musical domain. I just think it's hard to sustain a life-long, full-time living in music without the foundation described above. best regards Buzap PS: these people are all in classical music or jazz, btw. I don't know how it is for punk rock or hip-hop artists - but will punk or hip-hop be around to feed you for 50+ years? ;-) -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 08:32:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3564B183460; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pe1n6uorrzekeP5bn3XJVtdnb7GO97C0YTHnqcYL1zE=; b=hiNvFo3aq/DbJpz17uXepED4Dvdkety2yuTjSegcEyY2HdwqQhvE2PYO2KEo2Xkhuf 1l7hbZVk+HEZ8ayMgjypco26BEl6/N+DeSpFX2ALdEQprZvrwJDsg1FFC8fNWQ65k+D2 MhRlIQPk6oNVZD5cf+8HJjzXsBb1HjfD/y9Ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kLOWJQpLDg0x853rR9qyL9b6/vyP2PfRDzAfXnvohQTuR5EgZK5R1/LGNB38/75Fbl SRf/wA4LPimwdiZjsJlDSOH/NM6SXYo4rp0pyM8885AodPNR9SRRto7GhnrVIGaSuSCT Od8tkWEbTrX9b2ZxyjhbwUz/rQTweENNeq754= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110114082532.195420@gmx.net> References: <918423.68207.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110114082532.195420@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:32:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:32:32 +0000 (UTC) > PS: these people are all in classical music or jazz, btw. I don't know how it is for punk rock or hip-hop artists - but will punk or hip-hop be around to feed you for 50+ years? perhaps if you become a hip punk hair dresser P.S. and if u want to make serious money now get into the the tatoo removal business! cheers Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 08:50:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BEC018347A; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 565286809/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.143/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.143 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At0BAMqcL01V0r2P/2dsb2JhbAAMljS/QY1ThU8Ejiw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,322,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="565286809" Message-ID: <4D300E6A.1020809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:50:50 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 and sucking at syncing and some sucky customer service to boot References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> In-Reply-To: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:50:38 +0000 (UTC) PIM Contact wrote: > > So, here is the part about their customer service. I emailed them > trying to ask about this.. > > " stereo audio is twice as difficult to sync and/or time-shift > than mono audio." > > - Are you kidding me? It's my favourite time on LD when someone posts a workaround for some issue with a loop device that the manufacturers can't fix. Not even our resident experts, (who have some *very* deep knowledge of the RC50 haven't got it to sync). The Roland/Boss answer suggests that they think you have to time stretch a loop in order to sync it. That simply isn't the case. I wonder if you're benefiting from clock accuracy, by setting master and slave to the same tempo, rather than an actual sync. andy butler ps. can't you turn down the vol of the guide track and save that setting in your preset? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 08:59:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6FD818347F; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 562300616/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.143/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.143 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At0BAKqeL01V0r2P/2dsb2JhbAAMljTNFoVPBI4s X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,322,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="562300616" Message-ID: <4D30106F.8070806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:59:27 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? References: <33169607.1294963012215.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D2FAF94.9060607@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D2FAF94.9060607@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > If 5 minutes is analagous to one of your fingers, then a week of five > fingers is a hand and four weeks > of 5 fingers is four hands and 12 months of that is 48 hands and in two > or three years you can achieve > an amazing amount of skill on almost anything. > looks at hands, turns hands round From dr_jacksongaiusobaseki001@yahoo.co.jp Fri Jan 14 09:04:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 477 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:04:51 UTC Received: from web4006.mail.ogk.yahoo.co.jp (web4006.mail.ogk.yahoo.co.jp [124.83.200.53]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 76CD318347E for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66916 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2011 08:56:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=yj20050223; d=yahoo.co.jp; h=Message-ID:Received:X-RocketDSI:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iCEmXzN3+Kg65I4bWXzALA57owubM1KufQLf7s13+lqg2GfMURnoX2cDVXato3xgB9wJhCEbJUAa+P/Cs7kvROD3pV+PvW+++0xt3gRj9oJjqfsSHSCId6QkWe/0Sc9g ; Message-ID: <20110114085626.66914.qmail@web4006.mail.ogk.yahoo.co.jp> Received: from [81.199.228.74] by web4006.mail.ogk.yahoo.co.jp via HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:56:26 JST X-RocketDSI: i=124.83.200.53;s=w Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:56:26 +0900 (JST) From: "DR.OBASEKI" Reply-To: dr.jacksongaiusobaseki01@gmail.com Subject: Let us Partner in Business(Urgent) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1242893222-1294995386=:65014" --0-1242893222-1294995386=:65014 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp $B?7$7$$%a!<%k%"%I%l%9$r$*CN$i$;$7$^$9?7$7$$%a!<%k%"%I%l%9!'(B dr_jacksongaiusobaseki001@yahoo.co.jp I am Dr.Jackson Gaius Obaseki the Former Group Managing Director of NNPC.I have a profiling amount USD$20M and It is my intention to invest in your country under your partnership and you will get 25% for helping me. 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--0-1242893222-1294995386=:65014-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 09:09:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCBBB183488; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 556572482/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.143/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.143 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At0BAHuhL01V0r2P/2dsb2JhbAAMg3+SNb8Bjg6BJIM3dASOLA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,322,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="556572482" Message-ID: <4D3012D9.70504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:09:45 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: should musicians have a second job? 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Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UWgboiy45D7ptS+/LkKk49CsQglxfsdfxX4Zb1HU/5U=; b=w7akFyyZL28i8eRw/fR44DK3U68kGGMHEE9nbkyKAMXyx7kT/YQpJctUBMMvZsjYOf XoLfc1hWBEGb11kYes612lbnh6B34rWziKDJrYONSHMcyXFVNdxrj5byz1kV4rAf66tF GXSO17s85ciLsvMIwlOehUQ+x3CMmV4PsQQso= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=h1hR7ZIKPXHRIbFOGMQguWllfVaXnjbzoliruRf6pXEL71+N18FZprnr099Hn+HeWa 0nHEkwKOSVn9FE8yfPZRRg3q48Fvz5NDMaKZYN6SBTx9Xgp1CeSpp8zSw9DAeG1oBM4J PAPmEEJbncQ7V9tPba7MHCV0dg0FIGa/k4Kj4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:41:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New from Roland From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Looks interesting! As usual too little information to get a decent understanding of the box, but the video shows a little more. Seems like a good choice of useful effects. Maybe this box can serve as a simple pre amp as well? I couldn't find info on whether the aux input can be used for adding audio to loops, that would be a good buying argument for us that play multi output instruments into loopers. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > Not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet: > > http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=rc-30 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 14:05:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17F1E18345E; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 562437907/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.143/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.143 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuABAFznL01V0r2P/2dsb2JhbAAMljSXMLMghU8EjiyJBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,322,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="562437907" Message-ID: <4D30582D.2030103@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:05:33 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New from Roland References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-_pwVC.A.cd.mgFMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:05:26 +0000 (UTC) RC-30 "from the company that started the loop station revolution...most powerful compact looper ever" RC-3 "the most powerful compact looper ever" with *real drums* Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > Not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet: > > http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=rc-30 > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 14:09:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91B6518345F; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D305930.2070009@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:09:52 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #719 for January 13, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:09:56 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110113.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #719 January 13, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Nemesis. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Live Archive Volume 2" which is a self-released title. Nemesis: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jan PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) VA [AirSculpture] Exploration Drive E-Live 2010 (Groove) Chuck Van Zyl Marble Orchard MemorySpace (Synkronos) Nocturne Dave Sneed Sequential Seas A Change In Time (none) Claus Gahrn and Scrap Metal I Musical Sculptures (Auraltone) Tim Risher Nemesis Entrance Live Archive Vol. 2 (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Nemesis The Cosmic Garden Live Archive Vol. 2 (none) Nemesis Desert Miracle Live Archive Vol. 2 (none) Nemesis People at Sunset Live Archive Vol. 2 (none) Nemesis Intro Live Archive Vol. 2 (none) Nemesis Sky Archeologist Live Archive Vol. 2 (none) Nemesis Lunar Mansion Live Archive Vol. 2 (none) Nemesis Gigaherz Live Archive Vol. 2 (none) Nemesis Finale Live Archive Vol. 2 (none) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Nemesis. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Gigaherz" on Origo Sound. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 14:17:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05DE818345B; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 565429330/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.143/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.143 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuABACPqL01V0r2P/2dsb2JhbAAMljTKSYVPBI4s X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,322,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="565429330" Message-ID: <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:17:45 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New from Vox References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <4D30582D.2030103@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D30582D.2030103@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7uj2yD.A.EPB.KsFMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:17:46 +0000 (UTC) http://www.voxamps.com/pedals/vdl1/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 14:25:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 104C118345E; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: good luck to Bob and all on the LP2 Launch at NAMM today! References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <93657B8D-CE32-488C-9884-43C58F462188@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:24:25 -0800 thread-topic: good luck to Bob and all on the LP2 Launch at NAMM today! thread-index: Acuz9sizNHgtJgJ5TDyp0EKSUK8a6w== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 14:25:20.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[DFD0F050:01CBB3F6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Hey man I'm here gonna give it a go today and send ya'll a review!! NAMM is awesome!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:13 AM, "todd reynolds" wrote: > Much success to you Bob, and to Rick and Bill and all who are close and su= pporting the new product! =20 >=20 > Wish I could be there to try it out and have a go. (as I'm sure many of u= s wish) >=20 > Cheers,=20 >=20 > Todd >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 14:28:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29B6B18345E; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: NAMM References: <6A52A4DC-2942-4387-A387-343D3F70C8B9@zoekeating.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-4-1027979687"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <6A52A4DC-2942-4387-A387-343D3F70C8B9@zoekeating.com> Message-ID: <9913F0A4-8E1D-420C-A58C-9D46AA7D8896@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:27:55 -0800 thread-topic: NAMM thread-index: Acuz90W9GKt8LtBfTvWU9carXHQ2xw== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 14:28:21.0679 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B98CBF0:01CBB3F7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:28:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-1027979687 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cool zoe we will see you at your set, we are staying at hilton, we'll go cra= sh bob and put him on yhe spot!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:29 AM, "Zoe Keating" wrote: > I'll be at NAMM on Saturday (and performing at the Hilton at 8am),=20 > I'll try and find Bob and the LP2! >=20 --Apple-Mail-4-1027979687 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Cool zoe we will see you at your set, we are staying at hilton, we'll go crash bob and put him on yhe spot!!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:29 AM, "Zoe Keating" <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:

I'll be at NAMM on Saturday (and performing at the Hilton at 8am), 
I'll try and find Bob and the LP2!

--Apple-Mail-4-1027979687-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 14:31:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9359518345E; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: New from Roland References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-5-1028123241"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:30:19 -0800 thread-topic: New from Roland thread-index: Acuz95dZE/vpPTq2Qtiq0iiqjD4LBg== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 14:31:21.0631 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6DB4AF0:01CBB3F7] Resent-Message-ID: <_cugvD.A.HsB.64FMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:31:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-1028123241 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow we will check those and namm and review. Your intrepid namm looping agent, Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:29 PM, "Jeff Shirkey" wrote: > > Not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet: > > http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=rc-30 > > --Apple-Mail-5-1028123241 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Wow we will check those and namm and review. 

Your intrepid namm looping agent,

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:29 PM, "Jeff Shirkey" <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:


Not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet:

http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=rc-30

--Apple-Mail-5-1028123241-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 14:32:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04572183479; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: New from Vox References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <4D30582D.2030103@tiscali.co.uk> <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-6-1028213660"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <078BB34D-03A8-4AA3-96A0-A9029B5E54D3@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:31:49 -0800 thread-topic: New from Vox thread-index: Acuz981Nc7Yf46k2SU6zIsURUFouIA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 14:32:21.0412 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA7D2640:01CBB3F7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:32:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-1028213660 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Saw this one but no time to rebiew yet. Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:17 AM, "andy butler" wrote: > http://www.voxamps.com/pedals/vdl1/ > --Apple-Mail-6-1028213660 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Saw this one but no time to rebiew yet. 

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:17 AM, "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

--Apple-Mail-6-1028213660-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 14:37:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09B20183480; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=V4QK70SB4iHzGjgocWSAYDR6aQb7gX5VffInGmyyEwQ=; b=FP4rDRRAhnMuOpf0nAm0inB68sw6v+1/ZPOm+0k4JJLY0eR+Uyk5igqg0Vf4LcQeLt RZgQDseBSMKK2DBiZGZfX9jG0T2Wyv0innqrPTUWJH+UYvV+me0CLcHZ8rGTQDi+M03l XcBEqlAUHqysey/5W/+WBGJTXG7EBNboq3Kkw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iGerutcnLEFtunQ+3+/m7zlb60I0YuHysesqC/WIy6E7vFx4CehwxSG6tM7SMVCIgt pg+wCDxRxKp8tMVTkkAViBVxvUtFbkbF8JpPMKLJoIJPGTvlIgE2ks+RWd3RlxYkQ/nz /3dUUNZZi2BrePkJyqFie99sAgxpJk5Zmas2o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:37:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New from Roland From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <7yu-OB.A.b6B.t-FMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:37:33 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Wow we will check those and namm and review. > Your intrepid namm looping agent, Cool, Andy! So you are with online iphone at the show right now? Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 14:40:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64E1A18348C; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: New from Roland References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5F5A2B64-5C14-47D9-8359-5D2D77CB71B1@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:39:15 -0800 thread-topic: New from Roland thread-index: Acuz+NeOtk55LtxkSV6xzuueCRGvag== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 14:40:21.0815 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8D4D470:01CBB3F8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Yes I am buddy! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >> Wow we will check those and namm and review. >> Your intrepid namm looping agent, > > Cool, Andy! So you are with online iphone at the show right now? > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 14:50:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EF52183499; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:51:00 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: New from Roland In-Reply-To: References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_297224953==.ALT" Message-Id: <20110114145050.3E0F914D4B@ns4.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:50:51 +0000 (UTC) --=====================_297224953==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Did anyone notice that the new gr-55 has an on board looper? I couldn't find any details on the website about what the looper does, maybe you can check that out as well? Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca At 09:30 AM 1/14/2011, you wrote: >Wow we will check those and namm and review. > >Your intrepid namm looping agent, > >Andy Owens >1-800-AndyOwens >Sent from my iPhone >So the typing might not be my best! > > >On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:29 PM, "Jeff Shirkey" ><jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote: > >> >>Not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet: >> >>http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=rc-30 >> --=====================_297224953==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Did anyone notice that the new gr-55 has an on board looper? I couldn't find any details on the website about what the looper does, maybe you can check that out as well?

Paul Haslem
Ontario, Canada
www.dulcify.ca





At 09:30 AM 1/14/2011, you wrote:
Wow we will check those and namm and review.

Your intrepid namm looping agent,

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:29 PM, "Jeff Shirkey" <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:


Not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet:

http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=rc-30

--=====================_297224953==.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 14:55:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 457DE18349C; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:55:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:55:22 +0000 (UTC) From: axis4@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: someone please help me unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1414247_419736857.1295016922154" X-Originating-IP: [75.75.176.179] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:55:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1414247_419736857.1295016922154 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit please someone help me unsubscribe !!!! ------=_Part_1414247_419736857.1295016922154 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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------=_Part_1414247_419736857.1295016922154-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:05:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CB7C1834A2; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: NAMM Reports References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0E4E6B08-6331-4FF2-B133-7585887315B2@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:04:33 -0800 thread-topic: NAMM Reports thread-index: Acuz/GWS85x9VrXTSPmutlkLD3nbAg== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 15:05:25.0912 (UTC) FILETIME=[7957D180:01CBB3FC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Well here is your LD intrepid reporter here at NAMM. =20 Six in the morning now, nine my time so no sleep for the wicked.=20 I am here with my son Cameron, we got cold up in the mountains and decided t= o escape to LA. Everything expensive here but I had some cash tater-holed aw= ay for a scuba cave diving trip this month but I drove my four wheeler off a= cliff and massively destroyed my left shoulder (three of four rotator cuffs= completely torn loose, surgery last thursday) so I figured we would just do= NAMM instead, a bit safer than cave diving anyway!=20 Cameron is a killer musician so its a fun dad/son adventure. He plays cello,= mandos, guitar, bass, whatever and is great singer songwriter at 19. He is a= Bluegrass music major at ETSU, imagine that!! We arrived yesterday, with no reservation, no car, no namm badges, just a wi= ng and a prayer which is the way I like it, with a mandolin and mandocello i= n tow.=20 At the airport we just followed people with hairdoes that looked like skunk s= kins or massive tattoes or jingly leather and metal and got a shuttle to the= convention center. The Hilton and Marriott are right next to each other and= right on site of the event, both with two stages in the lobby for rapid fir= e band set turnovers.=20 We bit the bullet on price and got a room at the hilton, yikes$$$ but savin= gs on rent car and parking will make up for it, dont really need a car excep= t to get to the weed store (hint hint for you local ld'ers here lol!!) so we= are hunkered down.=20 Went over to the show with no passes and no plan and after having no luck ge= tting thru to any buddies that had a booth, just decided to join up and buy b= adges, yikes$$ again!! Oh well our cash holding up so far! Only had one hour in the exhibit hall, but we did find the LP booth and saw l= ots of hot girls and other creatures.=20 Cam kept saying"dad is that guy famous?" and I would say no I think he runs t= he keyboard deptartment at Sam Ash in Poughkipsie or somewhere, lots of pose= rs and costumers out here.=20 Looks really great so we will keep reporting.=20 Can you post pics to the list? Your intrepid reporter,=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Andy Owens wrote:= >> Wow we will check those and namm and review. >> Your intrepid namm looping agent, >=20 > Cool, Andy! So you are with online iphone at the show right now? >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:07:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF3641834A7; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: New from Roland References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <20110114145050.3E0F914D4B@ns4.tnt21.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-8-1030221689"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <20110114145050.3E0F914D4B@ns4.tnt21.com> Message-ID: <21B3E65D-B331-472F-8697-0F6256978C56@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:05:17 -0800 thread-topic: New from Roland thread-index: Acuz/L6P3SiUMtZkSg+AGRc01d0o5g== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 15:07:27.0648 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1E74200:01CBB3FC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:07:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8-1030221689 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ah, will check that too!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:50 AM, "paul" wrote: > Did anyone notice that the new gr-55 has an on board looper? I couldn't fi= nd any details on the website about what the looper does, maybe you can chec= k that out as well? >=20 > Paul Haslem > Ontario, Canada > www.dulcify.ca >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > At 09:30 AM 1/14/2011, you wrote: >> Wow we will check those and namm and review.=20 >>=20 >> Your intrepid namm looping agent, >>=20 >> Andy Owens >> 1-800-AndyOwens >> Sent from my iPhone >> So the typing might not be my best! >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:29 PM, "Jeff Shirkey" wrote= : >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet: >>>=20 >>> http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=3Drc-30 >>>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-8-1030221689 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Ah, will check that too!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:50 AM, "paul" <phaslem@wightman.ca> wrote:

Did anyone notice that the new gr-55 has an on board looper? I couldn't find any details on the website about what the looper does, maybe you can check that out as well?

Paul Haslem
Ontario, Canada
www.dulcify.ca





At 09:30 AM 1/14/2011, you wrote:
Wow we will check those and namm and review.

Your intrepid namm looping agent,

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 13, 2011, at 6:29 PM, "Jeff Shirkey" <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:


Not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet:

http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=rc-30

--Apple-Mail-8-1030221689-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:08:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6867183459; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: someone please help me unsubscribe References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-9-1030337493"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:06:25 -0800 thread-topic: someone please help me unsubscribe thread-index: Acuz/MLO79JuBoPcRXqNR8ZP6ZUFdA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 15:08:27.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5B1B3F0:01CBB3FC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:08:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9-1030337493 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii No, no one will help you, sorry, its like the Russian mafia, once you are in= you are in!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:55 AM, "axis4@comcast.net" wrote: >=20 > please someone help me unsubscribe !!!! --Apple-Mail-9-1030337493 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
No, no one will help you, sorry, its like the Russian mafia, once you are in you are in!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:55 AM, "axis4@comcast.net" <axis4@comcast.net> wrote:


please someone help me unsubscribe !!!!
--Apple-Mail-9-1030337493-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:20:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBF3D183484; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GUMA84yWuIWH1q+kkrxdH2Zq63qpQRY7wdYf3+TrTJM=; b=DAHydsz6i2pMicODTgmNc0aXn2FLSvEYY3e3d0/HZDcD5ttQK0xby6j9s7ouHZmhld Oee+i0TK5ytL27CwjiWhvGbVh4WFO6yWTsKiHqy97EEcoX29Cg/DVX1PqJRosFlWeLKW tAxmQ5EJyEeU5wLP8IEY18omiveTKKUX07QDs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Wc1DO/jo/A/g7Ef1midr4pPHJ7nc7pruKXEXME+O+5rWABKE8Ft0xORbTyyrAiq1GM 5jW4R6uGr5RcEsOJQvaI8qoKH6fvfesJkVVqDQq6lCYFdubBSmEaorweO7tgSRoJ4LlG ByPeGHr3qRhQeVezVOhuUwXC2K45lJazbbOZI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0E4E6B08-6331-4FF2-B133-7585887315B2@1800dialword.com> References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <0E4E6B08-6331-4FF2-B133-7585887315B2@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:20:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAMM Reports From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:20:45 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Can you post pics to the list? No. But you can upload to Flickr etc and post links to LD. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:22:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9912618349B; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=guEZ7zppzGxUP27L3XoMt8nS/OTWPceVidFdyIdrSP8=; b=ROdGi8vuln4EwXlTx+dZK3snS25I/qaKQeI+NfdGYHVCd1hLagmlOycS3W+JGasj0j cvMiSan+jBpPTYk52jLjVmBwIbG5IErOGjim+nNhtOn9Mz1T/GpSgIKEcM2kn2YksMEf lo3mQ2b0cODryIqZ8fpvk15pMe6m6ub6zcGi4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xq7BlU1ZeMaEmcC0m46wDEHno77PmbqfUBbgPLtURAYAaZRkCrR1wGqQlJ8ig4X6hn VZCyvNqh4v5ul+GHZXawq5lzIqMXssinFwbqfdh0w1dcp5AudNi6AM/SPzujueCigl5W mBpSqwTwaVbcrXuh1GJzASSAOTsowYk7zg/pw= Message-ID: <4D306A51.6060404@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:22:57 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New from Vox - NAMM visitors, please check this out! References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <4D30582D.2030103@tiscali.co.uk> <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6GX8z.A.W3D.NpGMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:22:54 +0000 (UTC) andy butler schrieb: > http://www.voxamps.com/pedals/vdl1/ Now, you obviously picked the hottest new looper from the batch (sorry, Bob, but I think it is): From the description and the demos, I see the highlights as having: a) both a pre-loop and a post-loop effect (the latter can be resampled) b) undo AND redo c) fading loop stop mode d) two independent tracks On the downside: only mono, and no storage ('though the latter must not necessarily be considered a bad thing by us hardcore improvisation theorists). Anyone of you NAMM visitors can test drive that thing and share some thoughts? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:30:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34B2F1834AA; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TlKKgviI55blrSA6kdxnLbdwmwkxfALosDcKV19itYw=; b=AN7ZGBDg9MPfRlhqzlMr81o8oR5sgF96qG2a2Zq7ChOWngw28ILKOdVvC5xw27Xp/R dw3rNjDK1sFSg3/gudaINw8gvKN0zNPd7hG1NZDB7dgR+G6XVXNj/sf2tlwmm+pCeOua FNQ4IgTveXAD9Rr2gkJSo85JskMOYrLPgFnnI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PTI+xuLHiDpH6e2TXPYu+FOmCITeo3dQHZXdYwxddIeAjwHKlaKht4GjJHmMHtVIRj is2GNp6TZ5v+DNgcj/vMD2luULvyFzYJi2tql4xsXVrsa6rQInQGQyzRvPebUXEH8Qc3 RY21rU0KZ5+Qivciva1edKreOkFbasoWgZ5xo= Message-ID: <4D306BFC.40105@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:30:04 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New from Vox - update References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <4D30582D.2030103@tiscali.co.uk> <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Just found a store listing it at 199 pounds for pre-order. That would put it below the Boss RC20 (now RC30). > http://www.voxamps.com/pedals/vdl1/ -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:39:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4F3C1834B7; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: New from Vox - NAMM visitors, please check this out! References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <4D30582D.2030103@tiscali.co.uk> <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> <4D306A51.6060404@googlemail.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D306A51.6060404@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <3288CADE-508A-479B-8E24-B73990A4CA68@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:39:19 -0800 thread-topic: New from Vox - NAMM visitors, please check this out! thread-index: Acu0ATuqZZ7WsZWJQ4mygY9ungs1bw== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 15:39:38.0756 (UTC) FILETIME=[40EEF440:01CBB401] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Oh yeah we gonns test drive that baby today!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Rainer Straschill wr= ote: > andy butler schrieb: >> http://www.voxamps.com/pedals/vdl1/ > Now, you obviously picked the hottest new looper from the batch (sorry, Bo= b, but I think it is): >=20 > =46rom the description and the demos, I see the highlights as having: > a) both a pre-loop and a post-loop effect (the latter can be resampled) > b) undo AND redo > c) fading loop stop mode > d) two independent tracks >=20 > On the downside: only mono, and no storage ('though the latter must not ne= cessarily be considered a bad thing by us hardcore improvisation theorists).= >=20 > Anyone of you NAMM visitors can test drive that thing and share some thoug= hts? >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:45:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 953E81834C0; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: NAMM Reports References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <0E4E6B08-6331-4FF2-B133-7585887315B2@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <0E4E6B08-6331-4FF2-B133-7585887315B2@1800dialword.com> thread-topic: NAMM Reports thread-index: Acu0AgdDRTxN4QZySe28QUs/rppdTQ== Message-ID: <0BC34DFF-66DF-4FB3-999C-D0623F4B0E9E@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:41:45 -0800 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 15:45:43.0772 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A7FF9C0:01CBB402] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Ok first seminar topic::> Transforming Iphones and ipads into real musical instruments Cool, that is one thing I've noticed so far, LOTS of ipads around, on cool m= ic stand ipad holders.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 7:05 AM, "Andy Owens" wrote: > Well here is your LD intrepid reporter here at NAMM. =20 >=20 > Six in the morning now, nine my time so no sleep for the wicked.=20 >=20 > I am here with my son Cameron, we got cold up in the mountains and decided= to escape to LA. Everything expensive here but I had some cash tater-holed a= way for a scuba cave diving trip this month but I drove my four wheeler off a= cliff and massively destroyed my left shoulder (three of four rotator cuffs= completely torn loose, surgery last thursday) so I figured we would just do= NAMM instead, a bit safer than cave diving anyway!=20 >=20 > Cameron is a killer musician so its a fun dad/son adventure. He plays cell= o, mandos, guitar, bass, whatever and is great singer songwriter at 19. He i= s a Bluegrass music major at ETSU, imagine that!! >=20 > We arrived yesterday, with no reservation, no car, no namm badges, just a w= ing and a prayer which is the way I like it, with a mandolin and mandocello i= n tow.=20 >=20 > At the airport we just followed people with hairdoes that looked like skun= k skins or massive tattoes or jingly leather and metal and got a shuttle to t= he convention center. The Hilton and Marriott are right next to each other a= nd right on site of the event, both with two stages in the lobby for rapid f= ire band set turnovers.=20 >=20 > We bit the bullet on price and got a room at the hilton, yikes$$$ but sav= ings on rent car and parking will make up for it, dont really need a car exc= ept to get to the weed store (hint hint for you local ld'ers here lol!!) so w= e are hunkered down.=20 >=20 > Went over to the show with no passes and no plan and after having no luck g= etting thru to any buddies that had a booth, just decided to join up and buy= badges, yikes$$ again!! Oh well our cash holding up so far! >=20 > Only had one hour in the exhibit hall, but we did find the LP booth and sa= w lots of hot girls and other creatures.=20 >=20 > Cam kept saying"dad is that guy famous?" and I would say no I think he run= s the keyboard deptartment at Sam Ash in Poughkipsie or somewhere, lots of p= osers and costumers out here.=20 >=20 > Looks really great so we will keep reporting.=20 >=20 > Can you post pics to the list? >=20 > Your intrepid reporter,=20 >=20 > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! >=20 >=20 > On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >=20 >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Andy Owens wrote= : >>> Wow we will check those and namm and review. >>> Your intrepid namm looping agent, >>=20 >> Cool, Andy! So you are with online iphone at the show right now? >>=20 >> Per >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:48:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A73C61834BE; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: New from Vox - NAMM visitors, please check this out! From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D306A51.6060404@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:48:29 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <74850582-E3CD-4213-88AA-11A9C3E35D7F@grubmah.com> References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <4D30582D.2030103@tiscali.co.uk> <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> <4D306A51.6060404@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:48:32 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 14, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > andy butler schrieb: >> http://www.voxamps.com/pedals/vdl1/ > Now, you obviously picked the hottest new looper from the batch = (sorry, Bob, but I think it is): >=20 > =46rom the description and the demos, I see the highlights as having: > a) both a pre-loop and a post-loop effect (the latter can be = resampled) > b) undo AND redo > c) fading loop stop mode > d) two independent tracks >=20 > On the downside: only mono, and no storage ('though the latter must = not necessarily be considered a bad thing by us hardcore improvisation = theorists). Dual track loopers seem to be the thing this year. I think the RC-30 is = dual track as well. There's probably a lot to be said for dual track in terms of potential = for keeping the UI simple though I don't know that any of these succeed = in that. My dual EDP setup for a couple years was essentially a = dual-track looper rather than stereo and that was without the benefits = of really having the tracks "know" about each other beyond sync. That said, I've been sketching out my "ideal" looper based on the Line6 = M13 as a form-factor. The design I'm gravitating toward has four pairs = of loops with only one loop at a time playing in each pair -- i.e., each = pair can be thought of like the EDP with MoreLoops set to 2. Still, my = project is purely academic since I haven't found a reasonably-priced, = sufficiently flexible controller at that price point and my ideal would = actually put the looping hardware in the box to make it portable. (The = project started as an effort to figure out what I would really want to = achieve with the LP1 since as we've observed on an earlier thread, it = really expects the user to configure it.) So, if someone made a really = good dual-track, stereo looper with undo available for each track, that = could be a pretty tempting compromise. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:49:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A071E1834D0; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 556751071/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.143/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.143 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuABAEX/L01V0r2P/2dsb2JhbAAMljTKIIVPBI4s X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,322,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="556751071" Message-ID: <4D307094.3000601@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:49:40 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New from Vox - NAMM visitors, please check this out! References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <4D30582D.2030103@tiscali.co.uk> <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> <4D306A51.6060404@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D306A51.6060404@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <4XIXK.A.iGF.HCHMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > andy butler schrieb: >> http://www.voxamps.com/pedals/vdl1/ > Now, you obviously picked the hottest new looper from the batch (sorry, > Bob, but I think it is): > > From the description and the demos, I see the highlights as having: > a) both a pre-loop and a post-loop effect (the latter can be resampled) > b) undo AND redo > c) fading loop stop mode > d) two independent tracks > The resampling *seems* to be a way of doing Multiply. (In which case I too have to say I suspect it beats the LP2...sorry Rick, but that resample with the crazy fx is waaay cool) Also, I note that "Volume" is one of the post process options. ...coupled with resample that's suspiciously like feedback control. Some other nice things it has 1) Loop in Loop.....which is a kind of stutter 2) Stutter which is a hard tremolo 3) cross-fade to Reversed loop via pedal ( I *really* like that one ) 4) A sub-octave ( almost an essential for a guitar looper) As usual, we await to see if it's actually as usable as we'd hope. Price in UK is £199 (not in stock). if only it was the "most powerful compact looper ever" andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:50:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B0E71834D8; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tS9SJXPG94TvOQrMqwb0DEDLFKNuaNucPOJcVPm2SG4=; b=PnUB/VsXvdMjS73itseUNT6TkyDtgq2nG8nubynwNWdWbAThRDryot/d291mFIWuxY 1qo6k+Gu4mTEXPqFC/T+Oh8PD4N+wd1VdEBsE3TJU1S2HeVi6NN7/WH/KdhUU7wEhASR b8lBVQ9jpjGRFt9SoNDujzPOav3VjFV4ntU6s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=VTpH3Dam347MILbV6m2wcw44ct2J2XbW/rM2o9eIF5J4vjuowXHPR3QKEBsCxzhLYU OSeE7xNacBvcWfyWI4qkskYdktMrgARAr7spvjpL9WUM9ZdDAhPuwXG+Ckw9xNqm/Pr5 N4W71GdErBzI5O8qvoW2rAEeaQi1BWzcPnrLU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <74850582-E3CD-4213-88AA-11A9C3E35D7F@grubmah.com> References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <4D30582D.2030103@tiscali.co.uk> <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> <4D306A51.6060404@googlemail.com> <74850582-E3CD-4213-88AA-11A9C3E35D7F@grubmah.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:50:57 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New from Vox - NAMM visitors, please check this out! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6b2cc6997fe0499d066ca Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:50:58 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6b2cc6997fe0499d066ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 also loopers with built-in effects as well, it seems. both the vox and the roland have them! On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jan 14, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > > Dual track loopers seem to be the thing this year. I think the RC-30 is > dual track as well. > > --000e0cd6b2cc6997fe0499d066ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable also loopers with built-in effects as well, it seems. both the vox and the = roland have them!

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at= 3:48 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
On Jan 14, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:

Dual track loopers seem to be the thing this year. I think the RC-30 = is dual track as well.

--000e0cd6b2cc6997fe0499d066ca-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:51:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0D341834D0; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: New from Roland From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <20110114145050.3E0F914D4B@ns4.tnt21.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:51:36 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <52208AD8-5488-447A-87BE-F050E007F7C2@grubmah.com> References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <20110114145050.3E0F914D4B@ns4.tnt21.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:51:39 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:51 AM, paul wrote: > Did anyone notice that the new gr-55 has an on board looper? I = couldn't find any details on the website about what the looper does, = maybe you can check that out as well? Memory has gotten cheap so everyone now throws in a looper with their = other effects? Okay. Roland has been doing looping devices for a while, = but having a looper does seem to have become de rigueur and I suspect = it's because it's become easy to do a relatively simple looper. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:54:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32AFF1834E1; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to:x-mailer; bh=ceqiIqDX3jpzfmRFzsTp52TtjV/ataUWbpW0P9EBh/A=; b=ecQNKW6UypB9FlsufNDTn18gbU+DjrNF/JQR9SEABaI1W/QHgc2t4fHaUM8WKPk46k N612Jk30UcsAkg2O/zAxxunSC1dwCP1V5uQjzgXAaoId+IPiQreqoy6WSrl8aGutYv82 re/aWorATY7CvVYWQuOZLVdwv1cKXv6I8pzO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=d5epiSSn2wb6GKU0k6zj+ggXxkd10bLsnynk1f2HKzaDEW95L2sza+9TsvnXYhytZb JzLhBaO21rbPVU7MS+mK1efQVCMrLbedKStgFzw/GZULubSy/ptiyWn1yn2DwGpSa43N wwEZkyUsI8RmmQS1L+Nsb5CEvOnUT7IpFN+K4= Subject: Re: Tip on a great free reverb plugin (for lappy loopers) PSP Pianoverb Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:54:01 -0300 Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <80C99EFB-07BA-44BC-8A2A-42955B58856D@gmail.com> References: To: cnovey@gmail.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <2xOFsB.A.eSF.9GHMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:54:37 +0000 (UTC) On 14 Dec 2010, at 10:30, Clifford Novey wrote: > One of my fav albums of all times uses this- Weather Report's first > record- self titled from 1972. Wayne played scales on his sax into > piano strings. Joe was giving him the scales and they edited all the > sax out but 1 note. Incredible and I didn't know how it was done until > much later. Joe also is doing something with the pedals you can hear > it. > Cheers for the tip- I will have to load that app into Reaper (plug- = loving it) > Clifford >=20 > On 12/14/10, Per Boysen wrote: >> Guys, >>=20 >> Check out the free Pianoverb from the Polish sound design programming >> masters at PSP >> http://www.pspaudioware.com/ >>=20 >> This plugin imitates the reverb effect you get if putting a heavy >> brick on a grand piano's sustain pedal and then record the string's >> sympathetic resonance with the vibrations in the air. I first heard >> this back in the late eighties on an album with solo soprano sax >> player Steve Lacy. But I didn't understand how that deep atmosphere >> was created until more than a century later, and then by accident as = I >> was experimenting with open piano strings as "reverb generator" in my >> own home studio. To be honest I don't know about any other plugin = that >> will give you this reverb sound, so if you are into that it is just a >> lovely crazy thing that the Poles give it out for free now. = Guitarists >> might be familiar with the acoustic guitar reverb sound you get when >> not muting open strings while playing on other strings. This plugin >> gives a bit of that ambient feel to any sound in-the-box. >>=20 >> Greetings from Sweden >>=20 >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Sent from my mobile device >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 15:57:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01DB61834EF; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=icT8n8XkIxr7ohLV20ad9mqqgZMv4z5J2vt4VnE1HTg=; b=TWRyBi8xFeZAom5snoMuv919c++ixm1X9OAlMUTU8LgRdVvjTqQgqk7VeQop64sjDC v4NwdKFHZpEMFqMd10e5Ow7tLTOmXxAeBAqBoCthcy04coroXSI2yVmwvirVoxspcQ9U W8Yc81mLAMkcIo7Z8wo0l0ohf0uyebO9mP2aY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YBd6dPRZ7BMRTxHkwH9D48bsdORXLlgHGTJRyPKmzuqap+H8elzHCo4dL84H2ip7lD w9OoxKx4Z8prOhJVHrlIW/xWibczgixQKtsdhQuX74uzk1FU7uDNpGMtN/BF6qL4Fucd Aty0ZbYhWfoQLVW+itKoYRNJnrNhQEAqw9/mI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D306A51.6060404@googlemail.com> References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> <4D30582D.2030103@tiscali.co.uk> <4D305B09.4070302@tiscali.co.uk> <4D306A51.6060404@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:57:21 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New from Vox - NAMM visitors, please check this out! From: Pawel Janowski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362847b85702f50499d07de8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:57:23 +0000 (UTC) --0016362847b85702f50499d07de8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That definitely looks interesting. I am curious what you can us the expression pedal for (feedback, loop volume, just the wah and fx?). I have preordered the LP2 a few days ago (to replace my Headrush) and I am not sure if I should have waited to see what NAMM would bring. The two independent loops in the new Boss and the Vox are appealing, but I never liked the Boss RC pedals and the Vox doesn't look that intuitive to use (and I am not that much into the effects - I prefer to have separate outboard fx). I guess I should just wait for some reviews to come in. Pawel On 14 January 2011 15:22, Rainer Straschill wrote: > andy butler schrieb: > >> http://www.voxamps.com/pedals/vdl1/ >> > Now, you obviously picked the hottest new looper from the batch (sorry, > Bob, but I think it is): > > From the description and the demos, I see the highlights as having: > a) both a pre-loop and a post-loop effect (the latter can be resampled) > b) undo AND redo > c) fading loop stop mode > d) two independent tracks > > On the downside: only mono, and no storage ('though the latter must not > necessarily be considered a bad thing by us hardcore improvisation > theorists). > > Anyone of you NAMM visitors can test drive that thing and share some > thoughts? > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --0016362847b85702f50499d07de8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That definitely looks interesting. I am curious what you can us the ex= pression pedal for=A0(feedback, loop volume, just the wah and fx?).=A0
=A0
I=A0have preordered the LP2 a few days ago (to=A0replace my Headrush) = and I am not sure if I should have waited to see what NAMM would bring. The= two=A0independent loops in the new Boss and the Vox are appealing, but I n= ever liked the Boss RC pedals and the Vox doesn't look that intuitive t= o use (and I am not that much into the effects - I prefer to have separate = outboard fx). I guess I should just wait for some reviews to come in.
=A0
Pawel=A0
=A0=A0
On 14 January 2011 15:22, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@goo= glemail.com> wrote:
andy butler schrieb:
http://www.voxamps.com/pedals/vdl1/
Now, you obviously picked the hottest new looper from the batch (sorry, Bob= , but I think it is):

From the description and the demos, I see the = highlights as having:
=A0 a) both a pre-loop and a post-loop effect (the= latter can be resampled)
=A0 b) undo AND redo
=A0 c) fading loop stop mode
=A0 d) two independ= ent tracks

On the downside: only mono, and no storage ('though t= he latter must not necessarily be considered a bad thing by us hardcore imp= rovisation theorists).

Anyone of you NAMM visitors can test drive that thing and share some th= oughts?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

-- http://moinlabs.deFollow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs


--0016362847b85702f50499d07de8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 16:19:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B8B0183492; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GBzBAka/YvWwrrZXkHpXUECZ0WwYVHE2hl6j2xzYPsg=; b=djyR3HRIu6Au6RQd2tI4fG0ecQEWtrCKa261TuDXvHYHfJlwV2dSEE2JoLHOU3DkaQ hP2iGvAQDRe1oQT+39s97QSXrDwWhadfXn8CxJk9O38Xjt56LVA/GSUefcSApQWCdDzG TpzbOp8uRlChoWbnwrfeBo/YoGGPoMll0RDIQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=i7ll0Sp1MgwPIfxKI9NEM/Kj8QvVM5UY6AAEYsIzu9/HnPqm1gtOJdX3cE05IWnd9D o9Y4nMXIqKIGTE7QKoraeA4M0p7+cFjGwTVegzC69orLXcfNS2tySxFfXaa4R2eTnqft buT8g/H0x6RkMij2bbA1P5ZPltk/MFsSkHvg4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:19:01 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: another audio example of mobius scripts in use From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5d056c647350499d0ca24 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:19:02 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5d056c647350499d0ca24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok, so after all the talk about scripts and having spent the last few weeks writing and testing several out, i've finally gotten round to trying to make some music with them this is a little 2 minute example that uses three scripts. the first is a variation on one that Per sent to me a while back, called "speed grid", which changes the rate of the loop (while overdubbing) to create a melodic sequence from a single note played into the loop. the second a "bass grid" that changes the rate of the loop at selected times to make a bass groove from a single note. the third is a variation of my copy pan script that copies a loop onto the next track, pans them, and trims the last 8th off the second loop after multiplying it by 2 so there are four loops running - the first is a rate sequence, the second is a copy of the rate sequence, shortened by an 8th, the third is some bass notes and the fourth (which comes in a bit later) is me just fooling around swelling in some notes and chords. the first loop is treated with PSP's Nitro (a kind of ohmboyz filtered delay thing), and the second loop is treated with a sequenced filter (audiodamage bigseq) which is running in 4/4, even though the underlying loop isn't in 4/4 (it's 15 beats long). the effect is quite strong, so i think it disguises the fact that the underlying loop is in a different time sig, but i think it works ok so the whole groove was set up from TWO NOTES. mobius and the fx do the rest. this harks back to what per said about scripts allowing you to create stuff that you wouldn't necessarily be able to play. http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/mobius_example.mp3 (copy this link into your browser if it doesn't work by clicking on it) sim --000e0cd5d056c647350499d0ca24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok, so after all the talk about scripts and having spent the last few weeks= writing and testing several out, i've finally gotten round to trying t= o make some music with them

this is a little 2 minute example that = uses three scripts. the first is a variation on one that Per sent to me a w= hile back, called "speed grid", which changes the rate of the loo= p (while overdubbing) to create a melodic sequence from a single note playe= d into the loop. the second a "bass grid" that changes the rate o= f the loop at selected times to make a bass groove from a single note. the = third is a variation of my copy pan script that copies a loop onto the next= track, pans them, and trims the last 8th off the second loop after multipl= ying it by 2

so there are four loops running - the first is a rate sequence, the sec= ond is a copy of the rate sequence, shortened by an 8th, the third is some = bass notes and the fourth (which comes in a bit later) is me just fooling a= round swelling in some notes and chords.

the first loop is treated with PSP's Nitro (a kind of ohmboyz filte= red delay thing), and the second loop is treated with a sequenced filter (a= udiodamage bigseq) which is running in 4/4, even though the underlying loop= isn't in 4/4 (it's 15 beats long). the effect is quite strong, so = i think it disguises the fact that the underlying loop is in a different ti= me sig, but i think it works ok

so the whole groove was set up from TWO NOTES. mobius and the fx do the= rest. this harks back to what per said about scripts allowing you to creat= e stuff that you wouldn't necessarily be able to play.=A0

http:/= /www.simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/mobius_example.mp3

(copy this link into your browser if it doesn't work by clicking on= it)

sim


--000e0cd5d056c647350499d0ca24-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 16:20:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31F8E1834A9; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VrwWD9wWHU435fvlUvUf2c86ttR/Nu1mqB3X7kgui+o=; b=YWdNEDSRNmu5IxJ23T6kNlK+BytEwgNXUP+yO5kMJBXPvf/D0FlpGlX8Ds9j+4Gkrc nJCDowD/RlhDUd21RomeDaX29grkGDj6wg/SASel045bAOoiS9/g2MfNMAOtD0AQA2YT ++wnSGGL+u5o62M3FQg5IGqJp7nonjalE4yE0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VuxXylilsApfcVTAHJHZ2YgNXfUU+yo0ZL7F2aKsEtE0peMp3a7cFuAWlktdDRgV+b jMGbWfTyvNrJljHPAiLRIg+9LZS5PsbfH3iPjD2DSUhab1NFssXd3pCYJqK0CtBSA5mK SyBcPGIzcr7bujlLsJZrWKpzeTuIXidTDGaoo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:20:10 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: To all those going to NAMM From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30433eb2e6c0400499d0cecd Resent-Message-ID: <9LuIZC.A.WhG.WfHMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:20:38 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30433eb2e6c0400499d0cecd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have a great show. I don't go anymore, did for several years. It's a neat high and I'm sure will be amazing with the new things there. Very cool you are playing at the Hilton Zoe, kudos and likewise to Rick and Bill and anyone else doing performances there. Jim --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf30433eb2e6c0400499d0cecd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have a great show.=A0 I don't go anymore, did for several years.=A0 It&= #39;s a neat high and I'm sure will be amazing with the new things ther= e.=A0 Very cool you are playing at the Hilton Zoe, kudos and likewise to Ri= ck and Bill and anyone else doing performances there.

Jim

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--20cf30433eb2e6c0400499d0cecd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 16:40:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F3151834C7; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kLM/Is2+VH2fngDQKW2+Op+Tecvzr/D2NvmSBkjxCCg=; b=Kx+JKgZqB/tUJvDVmDPTgydwmdrbjulCEwQI1PL3TkKVU1s2p0ZvLMvPADG0YFUoTU XjK1tnSQZAP5Jnsx8P32QKJ4d/V+XQyNdj1/tSA9G8xldlbVU3FNUyqnaooHV7eeG2Jt +0uPcoN2YC+aqXwLALccz597WLgxwqFv98xMU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NFpBUY1tovsqio357ILco6qnuXqrhNm1yydR0oJZ5qEB2G9m+LX9K/zgkrvFxTg3np SoR7WnCOm+Qmc9VAgP6rHctYPEq89X1IYwdTyjlX3xoK0Hbg33uy8XN53b6NA8/BQ6Zq aV3PQ7y68FWlSjas8gcouy9vl5zdKc3HhsVEA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:40:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: someone please help me unsubscribe From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a6b91f5e830499d11927 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:40:56 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a6b91f5e830499d11927 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Funny Andy... Okay to unsubscribe follow... *I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you understand.* To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If you are on the digest version of Looper's Delight, send your unsubscribe request to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will make fun of you and you will feel like a dork. On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > No, no one will help you, sorry, its like the Russian mafia, once you are > in you are in!! > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:55 AM, "axis4@comcast.net" > wrote: > > > please someone help me unsubscribe !!!! > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a6b91f5e830499d11927 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Funny Andy...

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--90e6ba6e8fd0cf3e800499d146e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 17:19:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6234318345A; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 298672.10177.bm@omp1015.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.no; s=s1024; t=1295025596; bh=4SlXWhM/wU7p4nnKle7zC4qr4JWgFbglwzk7TbqaAqM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SVnzGKlG43ZhA9MVcYsWJ9N+VKb1D/KEPUjUbz07iYefOZZ5EIT8q1vOK0/9XYoAix+UQA0Ks4Bi7lbBrw5gjK7snKT8yKhh/xIzHqSy5HEVVs8r7FLyndRoNLDZYfla+zwq5WLealH+C+6v/edmDQnYjqojSI9ApEjol4BGlCU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g4mCh5qflqREH73aHthvrOHGdX8tmuEspaCpH1OFDDdzqE09PvWZMY0FUZqfiU2TnQnAjy6gXljxioaT93BypT/f+2t184YdX25KobW9UyvHhC73RY+HREc6BGcbdUyWQX/n70zG/XQDqiIJ5Ka0Gmf9tPreFnVTUCsxzRKTR+A=; Message-ID: <180907.85432.qm@web29712.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NlX7h7cVM1kRgH4Xg3fZ86uBW9_gx9BBhImrVPxBefQ4qol 4mH6H.Ji9krbRXzGwTUrqYt2sxIgpUH0AlY02SGPzLyKe2JDOZCBtYUz.cR0 5y6_1i.IeGNlPXpmAFuKJAXo3WH7pgPWkUTdLY89BTmrGV9PEMlHEPQ.hvZj U.y1LOjkhpZSMl_Xr8rimwP0bNcVe5KxnErJEYNzCrlcCzFuIlV4e_oMF2zo x2GtFpB3lXQfPWlcV.5YQ3JxEf_hB1JxXaO_BX50XqX8_adhVD05JyMZjDDi 1nBZdFx8- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:19:55 +0000 (GMT) From: rune fagereng Subject: Any new delay pedals? (NAMM) To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1021325151-1295025595=:85432" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:19:57 +0000 (UTC) --0-1021325151-1295025595=:85432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Its interesting to see the new loop-units (Boss, Vox, LP2). Will LD make (f= ield) test on them?=A0 Is there any new delay-pedals as well?=A0 best regards Rune F. =A0=A0=0A=0A --0-1021325151-1295025595=:85432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!

Its interesting to see= the new loop-units (Boss, Vox, LP2). Will LD make (field) test on them?&nb= sp;

Is there any new delay-pedals as well? =

best regards Rune F.   

--0-1021325151-1295025595=:85432-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 17:20:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB9B7183482; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: RC-50 and sucking at syncing and some sucky customer service to boot From: PIM Contact In-Reply-To: <4D300E6A.1020809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:20:24 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <27D2AFF3-702C-46CF-B9C4-C33893BB8499@taintedbytrolls.com> References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D300E6A.1020809@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:20:26 +0000 (UTC) When you turn the volume of the guide track down, it turns the guide off = which then turns quantization off, which then causes your actual = recorded loops to be out of sync. You do not need to time stretch in = order sync, no... it's all about the guide, unfortunately as far as = timing goes on the rc-50. That's true, it is not actual sync, it's = almost as though I'm tricking the rc-50 into syncing. I played around = with it last night and was successful using my workaround but... sure do = wish this actually worked like it should. -Shane On Jan 14, 2011, at 12:50 AM, andy butler wrote: > PIM Contact wrote: >=20 >> So, here is the part about their customer service. I emailed them = trying to ask about this.. " stereo audio is twice as difficult to sync = and/or time-shift than mono audio." >> - Are you kidding me? >=20 > It's my favourite time on LD when someone posts a workaround for > some issue with a loop device that the manufacturers can't fix. >=20 > Not even our resident experts, (who have some *very* deep knowledge > of the RC50 haven't got it to sync). >=20 > The Roland/Boss answer suggests that they think you have to time = stretch > a loop in order to sync it. That simply isn't the case. >=20 > I wonder if you're benefiting from clock accuracy, by setting master = and slave to the same tempo, rather than an actual sync.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > andy butler > ps. can't you turn down the vol of the guide track and save that = setting in your preset? >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 17:26:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D6C21834C0; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvwGAH8VME1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACCPJQEjha8D4VPBIRriU0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,323,1291593600"; d="scan'208,217";a="93793243" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <0D177FAD-EC42-446A-8D5C-D377234C7FDB@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <180907.85432.qm@web29712.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-175-1038869345 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Any new delay pedals? (NAMM) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:29:25 -0600 References: <180907.85432.qm@web29712.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:26:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-175-1038869345 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Is there any new delay-pedals as well? TC Electronics has released an old-school style delay pedal, the "Flashback Delay and Looper". Eventide will also be releasing the Space (Factor) pedal, a reverb pedal with tremolo, delays, shimmer, and other wacky reverb effects. Jeff --Apple-Mail-175-1038869345 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Is there any new delay-pedals as well? 

TC Electronics has released an old-school style delay pedal, the "Flashback Delay and Looper".

Eventide will also be releasing the Space (Factor) pedal, a reverb pedal with tremolo, delays, shimmer, and other wacky reverb effects.

Jeff
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From jennifer = ; 

Permit me to inform you my hear= t desire for a business relationship with you. I got your contact when I wa= s searching for a foreign partner here in Abidjan republic of Cote D'Ivoire= on my search for honest and reliable person. I prayed over it and decided = to confide in you because your integrity and educational background. I am j= ennifer William,( 22 years old ),the only daugter of late Dr and mrs willia= m david. My father was a very wealthy Gold/Diamond dealer in Freetown, the = ecaonomic capital of Sierra Leone. My father was poisoned to death by his c= lose business  associates on one of their outings on a business trip.<= /p>

 My mother died when I was 15 years= old and since then my father took me so special.Before the death of my father last= year on  match 19th 2010, in a private hospital in Freetown, he secre= tly called me by his bed side and told me
of a deposit of 6.5 million un= ited state dollars he concealed in a  Bank on the 2nd of JANUARY 2005 = that he used my name been the only daughter as the next of kin when he depo= sited the money.


He warned me that b= ecause of enemy that he was poisoned by his close associates.He also advise= d me to seek for an honest foreigner in a country of my choice where those = associates will not hurt me as they have succeeded in poisoning him.For you= r information , it has been difficult to know who is an honest person to as= sist me in this transaction , and for me to continue silent over looking fo= r assistance while my money is in the bank i decided to make a try from you= ,
I arrived here (ABIDJAN) in a nearby country on the 28RD of novmber 2010, since my uncle wants to kill me because of this certificate = of deposit as he have suceeded in collecting all my father's property left = with this money;They continuously mal-treated me, and have made life very u= nbearable for
me.

The wife serve me a= delicious poisoned rice meal last time,but for the Devine mercy the daught= er secretly whispered to me not to eat the meal; i wasted the meal to the b= in only to find two dead rat on the bin the following morning and that made= me to run away immediately. And
i don't want to stay long here since i = know nobody or have much money to pay for hotel bill.
Dear, I honourably= seek your assistance in the following ways: 


1.To stand as my late father's foreign partner since my lat= e father deposited it to be claim by his foreign partner and no name was me= ntioned,
2.To help me come over to your country to further my education.

Please my intention is not t= o disturb your Peace,but because l am sincerely in need,And desperately nee= d a solution before my life is wasted because there is war in this country.= Among all, the most important thing is for you to be aiding me as parent wh= o will directing all my affair and doings in your country. Lastly ,you will= promise me that you will not betray or deny me if this  money gets in= to your bank account and country,Dear,I am ready to offer you 30% of the to= tal money for your help.and give 10% for your expensis But if may be you ar= e not in better position to help. Please let me know. So that I can look fo= r another helper. I am with the certificate of deposit upon demand. I will = show you.Looking forward to your kind reply soonest and may God bless you.c= all me for more infomations,


Sincere= ly

Yours.
jennifer


=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1084986737-1295026117=:82909-- From info@UBA.BANK.com Fri Jan 14 17:43:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 54751 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:43:51 UTC Received: from autorasem.com (autorasem.com [59.124.126.161]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE791834C1; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User (unknown [206.183.108.248]) by autorasem.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2EA2DB0B1; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:35:01 +0800 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Mr. Michael Bake" Subject: FUND FOR INVESTMENT Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:36:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20110113203502.AE2EA2DB0B1@autorasem.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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It is my pleasure to contact you for a business venture which I intend to establish in your country. Though I have not met with you before but I believe, one has to risk confide in another to succeed sometimes in life. I am Mr.Michael Baker, staff of a UBA Bank International, In the course of my work I discovered a dormant account worth about (US$17.5Million us dollars) and This very account has been dorman for over 8yrs now after my investigations; I discovered that the account owner has died since January 2007. Since his death, nobody has come forward to lay claims to this money and recently a probate order has been issued and as such if nobody comes for the claim by the end of this fiscal year, the account will be declared unserviceable and the funds called to the government treasury.
Your name was found in our system data base file I am asking for your assistance since I have all the details for you to claim the Funds, if you can handle this with me, I will need your full name, address, date of birth and telephone/fax numbers. With this information, I will carefully work on the account file so that you apply for the release of the money as the next of kin. I expect your speedy response. As soon as I receive your response I will provide details to you on how we can achieve it successfully.
Regards,
Mr. Michael Baker
Email: mr.michaelbake@gmail.com
 
 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 17:50:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B039E1834D2; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: someone please help me subscribe Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:50:08 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33069-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:50:22 +0000 (UTC) it was said "that when listening to the music of KLOBUCHAR, you would=20 pray for more ears!" this is true of LD.....so many good topics floating around, NAMM,=20 reviews, tons of GOOD STUFF..... i would like to have several subscriptions.....:).....a thought: let's=20 say you have 100 loopers living all over the planet.....that means there are 100=20 bathrooms, 100 kitchens, 100 rents, 100 food bills, etc etc.....now that's a lot of duplication and waste=20 of resources not to mention, lack of support.....in the way back, i spent 5 years living and studying in=20 a CARMELITE MONASTERY..... yes, there will be a movie about this.....but, that ingrained within me=20 a sense of community and leaving there and blasting into the world (1965) of HIPPIE COMMUNES, i=20 have always liked and benefited by living with others.....remember, you can only be in one room at a=20 time.....LD is like that, a supportive community, and being as agoraphobic and zenophobic as i now am, i=20 thankfully look forward, daily, to the posts..... so.....who is going to hit the lottery and lead all of the=20 LOOPERKINDERN to the LOOPASTERY on LOOPER ISLAND.....we got to act fast because even FORD will be coming=20 out with a looper..... then everyone will be a looper!.....what is the NEXT BIG THING? =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 18:05:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B89B1834D8; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 490 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:05:51 UTC Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:57:41 +0000 (UTC) From: axis4@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <781765391.1428578.1295027861720.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: someone please help me unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1428577_1534730044.1295027861719" X-Originating-IP: [75.75.176.179] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:05:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1428577_1534730044.1295027861719 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I feel like I cant get out ! hahah I tried to contact the person in charge of getting me off this list but never heard back. Please for real someone help !! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:06:25 AM Subject: Re: someone please help me unsubscribe No, no one will help you, sorry, its like the Russian mafia, once you are in you are in!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:55 AM, " axis4@comcast.net " < axis4@comcast.net > wrote: please someone help me unsubscribe !!!! ------=_Part_1428577_1534730044.1295027861719 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I feel like I cant get out ! hahah

 

I tried to contact the person in charge of getting me off this list but never heard back.

 

Please for real someone help !!

 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:06:25 AM
Subject: Re: someone please help me unsubscribe

No, no one will help you, sorry, its like the Russian mafia, once you are in you are in!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:55 AM, "axis4@comcast.net" <axis4@comcast.net> wrote:


please someone help me unsubscribe !!!!
------=_Part_1428577_1534730044.1295027861719-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 18:09:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DA651834DE; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xF2YA57WzSehNBHAfOkO3m/QRJ4hBNhpvrc+gL78Vh0=; b=xtfA34RM7rhuAvHHR+8FqclO/ojCPbhyq3N7eiTT/Q2QvoKU1C3kFRT/9jD0OvMiMT i+JZ11ByKpw/ucPr3OcAkV3F/tVp/xRYylwDFE8LXlUNRS0KqIEpJx4izWKSTG8GCXvW 8LqGkwZzlYadmEEHnF3tEV9+y02txvIhc/cTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=G3muvUI6BJVlejsVtoia2NFZHcE73HtIrOErnGDEiyhQZMxq7BERw/UDczu4YY3tdm mh/KPS4Vvf35Irg6iA07V8yYb4+fWyTCGSZXfTNxRH5oFZXZpyMR3pSQty/tlA/46twB h3Pxe619LuohqbLFnrfr+3H5dv9J2vQcak63M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <781765391.1428578.1295027861720.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <781765391.1428578.1295027861720.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:09:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: someone please help me unsubscribe From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:09:50 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM, wrote: > Please for real someone help !! Someone just did help. Please check this thread's backlog. Per (Looper's Island Subscriber) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 18:30:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8CF718347B; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BE+nIvkP3KJUhVx8HgGM07Phh1jlUc/NVvTQVB4LhlU=; b=QvFBh2cvQyWI8EbclJe+k4P6dELKxbrEY5ZGR6d1D97t+EFqppDE8/T9NuLE+UYRoW Gs0ahdxtUhdFDjnZBGqBHkXLZbrVXfhaQ8YjbyLCrgagaaYRRVbMxHiD7kGc4WD8wrqZ VFMyt5cYTSC34m1KSIOXjIw/E79k3ozt/kJY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hK+zSJh7n6GN3SRKuBM/yj4I3VWI+FiqkZQo2eXoocv/8ciqE3t+PGPHX6UcO8a3pA Xw7gEYwiu8pd/JSvcOnBWcrgc8E0A9h6fQUI9QEh+tsf4S2GKdrEkc0jHJKLHVhw0YrX oSWANZRF5gaV4IhOLas4uCvRJEUj3LUqgvJ3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:30:22 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another audio example of mobius scripts in use From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:30:26 +0000 (UTC) That was really great, exactly the kind of looping I'm looking to explore when I finally get the software configured (I sold all this gear of mine to force a move to software and wound up buying more hardware with the cash instead, Doh! How does that happen?). But this is inspiring me back to software. Thanks, Kevin On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > ok, so after all the talk about scripts and having spent the last few wee= ks > writing and testing several out, i've finally gotten round to trying to m= ake > some music with them > > this is a little 2 minute example that uses three scripts. the first is a > variation on one that Per sent to me a while back, called "speed grid", > which changes the rate of the loop (while overdubbing) to create a melodi= c > sequence from a single note played into the loop. the second a "bass grid= " > that changes the rate of the loop at selected times to make a bass groove > from a single note. the third is a variation of my copy pan script that > copies a loop onto the next track, pans them, and trims the last 8th off = the > second loop after multiplying it by 2 > > so there are four loops running - the first is a rate sequence, the secon= d > is a copy of the rate sequence, shortened by an 8th, the third is some ba= ss > notes and the fourth (which comes in a bit later) is me just fooling arou= nd > swelling in some notes and chords. > > the first loop is treated with PSP's Nitro (a kind of ohmboyz filtered de= lay > thing), and the second loop is treated with a sequenced filter (audiodama= ge > bigseq) which is running in 4/4, even though the underlying loop isn't in > 4/4 (it's 15 beats long). the effect is quite strong, so i think it > disguises the fact that the underlying loop is in a different time sig, b= ut > i think it works ok > > so the whole groove was set up from TWO NOTES. mobius and the fx do the > rest. this harks back to what per said about scripts allowing you to crea= te > stuff that you wouldn't necessarily be able to play. > > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/mobius_example.mp3 > > (copy this link into your browser if it doesn't work by clicking on it) > > sim > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 18:33:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01C5018347C; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WV1ah7RpN6N+BYQ4E30hYhSlo6t4LJEarRP55dtm2yA=; b=Anqev8E0ggo47pkqIZoO4BJlCJA6pVhJmQRbtdn5bFoBq+S72uMETWj0UwRRTK9CGW PBaiN07rFqLls92yM/rBNRq7VoeRBejTR0uKsFx/AhumZUhzzJwpU89Ou9OiB6Y8YltZ 4pcubcIRo2DQYPKx/Ynf8hOsYx0V/vn5XScdU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FoO0LesaaZdU+gJhchlWyAU5CfGo8bsQfm5vllEHm9q1Si8dkICb1RwyEN/APhxHOd 5auYeEKV4EdMpNilmmcuVveHoG8Pqm0i4BWLLCnuEIJ9jziyJU7pVkw4JsacC3sV4P4v Y9B384Ab9qd1hEOS1AmIKlPkzjDcHTlaoSeKE= Message-ID: <4D3096FE.7030100@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:33:34 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New from Roland References: <1C580095-4DDB-432F-BFA6-64C7FA44822E@taintedbytrolls.com> <4D2F99B1.1020006@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <7Utft.A.MLD.CcJMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:33:38 +0000 (UTC) From http://www.bossus.com/ "In addition to recording your instrument performances and turning them into playable loops, you can record other external stereo audio sources via the AUX IN. Sound from a digital-audio player or other device connected to the AUX input can easily be recorded and added to your loop." Generally RC-30 looks interesting... I wonder how the two tracks can be synced/played and whether the tap-tempo can affect recorded loops (time-stretch). Regards, Michał On 14.01.2011 13:41, Per Boysen wrote: > Looks interesting! As usual too little information to get a decent > understanding of the box, but the video shows a little more. Seems > like a good choice of useful effects. Maybe this box can serve as a > simple pre amp as well? I couldn't find info on whether the aux input > can be used for adding audio to loops, that would be a good buying > argument for us that play multi output instruments into loopers. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: >> Not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet: >> >> http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=rc-30 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 19:01:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0BA41834CB; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Any new delay pedals? (NAMM) References: <180907.85432.qm@web29712.mail.ird.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-12-1044348089"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <180907.85432.qm@web29712.mail.ird.yahoo.com> thread-topic: Any new delay pedals? (NAMM) thread-index: Acu0HWFm1szN3j5tSnifhsmVMwtMKw== Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:00:43 -0800 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 19:01:54.0287 (UTC) FILETIME=[824607F0:01CBB41D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:01:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12-1044348089 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I will try to review all the loopers but beyond that I'm not taking requests= !! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:20 AM, rune fagereng wrote: > Hi! >=20 > Its interesting to see the new loop-units (Boss, Vox, LP2). Will LD make (= field) test on them?=20 >=20 > Is there any new delay-pedals as well?=20 >=20 > best regards Rune F. =20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-12-1044348089 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgYmdjb2xvcj0iI0ZGRkZGRiI+PGRpdj5JIHdpbGwgdHJ5IHRvIHJldmlldyBh bGwgdGhlIGxvb3BlcnMgYnV0IGJleW9uZCB0aGF0IEknbSBub3QgdGFraW5nIHJlcXVlc3RzISE8 YnI+PGJyPkFuZHkgT3dlbnM8ZGl2PjEtODAwLUFuZHlPd2VuczwvZGl2PjxkaXY+U2VudCBmcm9t IG15IGlQaG9uZTxkaXY+U28gdGhlIHR5cGluZyBtaWdodCBub3QgYmUgbXkgYmVzdCE8L2Rpdj48 ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48L2Rpdj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj5PbiBKYW4gMTQsIDIwMTEsIGF0IDk6 MjAgQU0sIHJ1bmUgZmFnZXJlbmcgJmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpydW5lX2ZhZ2VyZW5nQHlh aG9vLm5vIj5ydW5lX2ZhZ2VyZW5nQHlhaG9vLm5vPC9hPiZndDsgd3JvdGU6PGJyPjxicj48L2Rp dj48ZGl2PjwvZGl2PjxibG9ja3F1b3RlIHR5cGU9ImNpdGUiPjxkaXY+PHRhYmxlIGNlbGxzcGFj aW5nPSIwIiBjZWxscGFkZGluZz0iMCIgYm9yZGVyPSIwIj48dGJvZHk+PHRyPjx0ZCB2YWxpZ249 InRvcCIgc3R5bGU9ImZvbnQ6IGluaGVyaXQ7Ij5IaSE8ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pkl0cyBp bnRlcmVzdGluZyB0byBzZWUgdGhlIG5ldyBsb29wLXVuaXRzIChCb3NzLCBWb3gsIExQMikuIFdp bGwgTEQgbWFrZSAoZmllbGQpIHRlc3Qgb24gdGhlbT8mbmJzcDs8L2Rpdj48ZGl2PjxzcGFuIGNs YXNzPSJBcHBsZS1zdHlsZS1zcGFuIiBzdHlsZT0iZm9udC1zaXplOiAxMy4zMzMzcHg7ICI+PGJy Pjwvc3Bhbj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PjxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJBcHBsZS1zdHlsZS1zcGFuIiBzdHlsZT0i Zm9udC1zaXplOiAxMy4zMzMzcHg7ICI+SXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IG5ldyA8c3Bhbj5kZWxheTwvc3Bh bj4tcGVkYWxzIGFzIHdlbGw/Jm5ic3A7PC9zcGFuPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+ YmVzdCByZWdhcmRzIFJ1bmUgRi4gJm5ic3A7Jm5ic3A7PC9kaXY+PC90ZD48L3RyPjwvdGJvZHk+ PC90YWJsZT48YnI+PC9kaXY+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvYm9keT48L2h0bWw+ --Apple-Mail-12-1044348089-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 19:19:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFE281834B5; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ZsSEE1fAdMi+n+SKW673BNOz/9l84m8IsOsJcpOyQMI=; b=W2ymHJCFsUVtFledHRLM34qqbAtx6676yjGUNOvvtKXcPDKbmvJc5GagPb7u0a4UaS 8HQ3tWrLLWmrDLwvpPZkxOzKvcqNwfkAOSsp210CtEYNTagukwXj6+QamrYIsyOkTfrU +RE406xuZpPrdwqPizZAoNBJ+m1yMKIYdTt80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=G40Cx7KdKCCiccTWxW6qk9+XBwhKeMp6LPds1YOa2ErauNwve/wL/Wc5xwzOWGxJ8l ufku8hIfDwUj0DK1FWHzP5VHTkrrhU6YGRz7ZdoGoqdX5IsaaSOHtHUuiL00DOq0o2v/ fSm4XekdfWXx2fhsmDI96Tjhg/rybgESZIakw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:19:15 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cs32w7f8xw-BDtCDsJqK_PEjUKg Message-ID: Subject: Re: another audio example of mobius scripts in use To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e860a917dac0499d350b3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:19:36 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e860a917dac0499d350b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fantastic... On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > That was really great, exactly the kind of looping I'm looking to > explore when I finally get the software configured (I sold all this > gear of mine to force a move to software and wound up buying more > hardware with the cash instead, Doh! How does that happen?). But > this is inspiring me back to software. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > ok, so after all the talk about scripts and having spent the last few > weeks > > writing and testing several out, i've finally gotten round to trying to > make > > some music with them > > > > this is a little 2 minute example that uses three scripts. the first is a > > variation on one that Per sent to me a while back, called "speed grid", > > which changes the rate of the loop (while overdubbing) to create a > melodic > > sequence from a single note played into the loop. the second a "bass > grid" > > that changes the rate of the loop at selected times to make a bass groove > > from a single note. the third is a variation of my copy pan script that > > copies a loop onto the next track, pans them, and trims the last 8th off > the > > second loop after multiplying it by 2 > > > > so there are four loops running - the first is a rate sequence, the > second > > is a copy of the rate sequence, shortened by an 8th, the third is some > bass > > notes and the fourth (which comes in a bit later) is me just fooling > around > > swelling in some notes and chords. > > > > the first loop is treated with PSP's Nitro (a kind of ohmboyz filtered > delay > > thing), and the second loop is treated with a sequenced filter > (audiodamage > > bigseq) which is running in 4/4, even though the underlying loop isn't in > > 4/4 (it's 15 beats long). the effect is quite strong, so i think it > > disguises the fact that the underlying loop is in a different time sig, > but > > i think it works ok > > > > so the whole groove was set up from TWO NOTES. mobius and the fx do the > > rest. this harks back to what per said about scripts allowing you to > create > > stuff that you wouldn't necessarily be able to play. > > > > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/mobius_example.mp3 > > > > (copy this link into your browser if it doesn't work by clicking on it) > > > > sim > > > > > > > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e860a917dac0499d350b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fantastic...

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:30= PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
That was really great, exactly the kind of looping I'm looking to
explore when I finally get the software configured (I sold all this
gear of mine to force a move to software and wound up buying more
hardware with the cash instead, Doh! =A0How does that happen?). =A0But
this is inspiring me back to software.

Thanks,

Kevin

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> ok, so after all the talk about scripts and having spent the last few = weeks
> writing and testing several out, i've finally gotten round to tryi= ng to make
> some music with them
>
> this is a little 2 minute example that uses three scripts. the first i= s a
> variation on one that Per sent to me a while back, called "speed = grid",
> which changes the rate of the loop (while overdubbing) to create a mel= odic
> sequence from a single note played into the loop. the second a "b= ass grid"
> that changes the rate of the loop at selected times to make a bass gro= ove
> from a single note. the third is a variation of my copy pan script tha= t
> copies a loop onto the next track, pans them, and trims the last 8th o= ff the
> second loop after multiplying it by 2
>
> so there are four loops running - the first is a rate sequence, the se= cond
> is a copy of the rate sequence, shortened by an 8th, the third is some= bass
> notes and the fourth (which comes in a bit later) is me just fooling a= round
> swelling in some notes and chords.
>
> the first loop is treated with PSP's Nitro (a kind of ohmboyz filt= ered delay
> thing), and the second loop is treated with a sequenced filter (audiod= amage
> bigseq) which is running in 4/4, even though the underlying loop isn&#= 39;t in
> 4/4 (it's 15 beats long). the effect is quite strong, so i think i= t
> disguises the fact that the underlying loop is in a different time sig= , but
> i think it works ok
>
> so the whole groove was set up from TWO NOTES. mobius and the fx do th= e
> rest. this harks back to what per said about scripts allowing you to c= reate
> stuff that you wouldn't necessarily be able to play.
>
> http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/mobius_exa= mple.mp3
>
> (copy this link into your browser if it doesn't work by clicking o= n it)
>
> sim
>
>
>



--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos




--
mark francombewww.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markf= rancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e860a917dac0499d350b3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 19:22:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54CFD1834A9; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=y4rj7sQV6FRQOGUzA+8mlc1Yk+732Zv+SgAiV6MtYi4=; b=QzvgaFx162o3HuCJVHQjH54LWfPigkiaAY26Ff2EO9i3nt1ma9nYT0XKtquIv6aP55 kXk5YDk41nEzjLKsBwQNyNZC8hakIXjOr2zeF2HTekYyxYcCs065xHvtaYtXxZDZ9Dn6 /0n20ESBdECmUWuP5cx6j3zFPPYBNytzBbtUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nE5TE1jmB0VLvDr9ahn9Mknd2Nl24veyrACkIAT1vTjs2wNEbYZrQlnAReSA1TZxPN 1ljDUXYfII6ABaqx7a8R61OnoYfTp3dPx6z2uAllRCASaqjGgyznK+XWrXFQzL0hJw+/ JSKmDMO56mwk3ERFkgp76YiciVvudzAqEw0Eo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:22:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another audio example of mobius scripts in use From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:22:57 +0000 (UTC) > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Simeon Harris >> >> http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/mobius_example.mp3 Awesome! Can't wait to hear you stretch out into lyrical live playing along that interactive stutter-box! ;-) Gonna get great! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 19:28:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 194B21834AE; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ozs9EgA4uDxGdsEsTo9RpTX1Ju8shlQ9v5O/hZ5cZKY=; b=uYIZat5bV4I2gYETzxaCTHc0zy1jX7ER4wsM/5eO5aa7zLaqqAiaod4zJ52lTH4VAW rDKASydjXc/PJX0FnoTx6hJxcy/6PIbGJw/Wrvl5fWZzAOFxciNZRtEIlErpsDGZkeSM U/LEmvonRrNo40lyCjMKVqobXYxrcQalO/MUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=qGxzrkRw9wGtDtJbI/8tZKQes2xIU0Gtz1D1cPFDNw/APv9sleu7P7/bsyZ5ihSUqS 2jSZQWyUldlXrf2LqE7NXszv1Ehh9GkZ+Zt/HwCeAL8Hx/J/V0ltwhCgIu7xbOVKQAQc BAwGmf8/GIXstK+721KtwEAv2xdJPv+xAHDEE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:28:04 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another audio example of mobius scripts in use From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404f2e639e80499d36e66 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:28:06 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404f2e639e80499d36e66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks guys. really still in the experimental phase and i just grabbed that chunk of audio while i was messing about this afternoon. the real challenge for me now is to incorporate this stuff into performance as seamlessly as i can. lots of practice ahead! sim On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Simeon Harris > >> > >> http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/mobius_example.mp3 > > Awesome! Can't wait to hear you stretch out into lyrical live playing > along that interactive stutter-box! ;-) Gonna get great! > > Per > > --000e0cd404f2e639e80499d36e66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks guys. really still in the experimental phase and i just grabbed that= chunk of audio while i was messing about this afternoon. the real challeng= e for me now is to incorporate this stuff into performance as seamlessly as= i can. lots of practice ahead!

sim

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:22 PM, = Per Boysen <per= boysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Simeon Harris
>>
>> http://www.simeonharris.c= o.uk/audio/mobius/mobius_example.mp3

Awesome! Can't wait to hear you stretch out into lyrical live pla= ying
along that interactive stutter-box! ;-) =A0Gonna get great!

Per


--000e0cd404f2e639e80499d36e66-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 19:29:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A15D1834AE; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zlgyEWCcDRFcrUICQOPHNPVt8TfVlp/2ADRlKwaElOQ=; b=Xkhmvr1Vgh6RMaP8zPVzm7kRUhkSNoVR3y3u9RRBH3mB/MrCId3+C95ERJZS4fq5Mj wkenwMszXDSBvvHnljEV9GWqTiSgSVulAr2W45meCF3y34BDMsB6xmfvlQ1BmFAu6Wl+ h94O9sI0XqnTEztnLkRjpBnrwUY59JLLX/lI0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RJyuLQ3Nbyc/lCrFKZSworr5qbXOSUMrVnox4895tGlefwixRcNCrgr3KVx9YNi0zQ qsm51mgz92I9l4Qs4aLUC6Kmg30cBg5iTavTIZ0Dt2BiXEjg+LFzoMYUjUdYgmpT/Sgx /qFxVezm8K5/mco34xUGSAogUruX6bYpdaGB0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:29:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another audio example of mobius scripts in use From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:29:32 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > lots of practice ahead! lotsa fun! :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 19:47:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6C501834C9; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a5d92d34-ea31-4b3a-a2c3-f27108518686_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.36.154] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: klobucharian idyll Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:47:40 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> ,<8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 19:47:41.0217 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7924910:01CBB423] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:47:42 +0000 (UTC) --_a5d92d34-ea31-4b3a-a2c3-f27108518686_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you ever lived = in student accomodation?! =3B-) I can't help wondering what 100 loopers playing together would sound like t= hough - "dense" might be the word! It's great to see all these new looping pedals coming out imo - soon the av= ante guarde will be joined by the throng.. peace g > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: someone please help me subscribe > Date: Fri=2C 14 Jan 2011 12:50:08 -0500 > From: nemoguitt@aol.com >=20 > it was said "that when listening to the music of KLOBUCHAR=2C you would=20 > pray for more ears!" > this is true of LD.....so many good topics floating around=2C NAMM=2C=20 > reviews=2C tons of GOOD STUFF..... > i would like to have several subscriptions.....:).....a thought: let's=20 > say you have 100 > loopers living all over the planet.....that means there are 100=20 > bathrooms=2C 100 kitchens=2C 100 rents=2C > 100 food bills=2C etc etc.....now that's a lot of duplication and waste=20 > of resources not to mention=2C lack > of support.....in the way back=2C i spent 5 years living and studying in= =20 > a CARMELITE MONASTERY..... > yes=2C there will be a movie about this.....but=2C that ingrained within = me=20 > a sense of community and > leaving there and blasting into the world (1965) of HIPPIE COMMUNES=2C i= =20 > have always liked and benefited > by living with others.....remember=2C you can only be in one room at a=20 > time.....LD is like that=2C a supportive > community=2C and being as agoraphobic and zenophobic as i now am=2C i=20 > thankfully look forward=2C daily=2C to the posts..... > so.....who is going to hit the lottery and lead all of the=20 > LOOPERKINDERN to the LOOPASTERY on > LOOPER ISLAND.....we got to act fast because even FORD will be coming=20 > out with a looper..... > then everyone will be a looper!.....what is the NEXT BIG THING? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 = --_a5d92d34-ea31-4b3a-a2c3-f27108518686_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you ever lived = in student accomodation?! =3B-)
I can't help wondering what 100 loopers = playing together would sound like though - "dense" might be the word!
It= 's great to see all these new looping pedals coming out imo - soon the avan= te guarde will be joined by the throng..

peace

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= --_a5d92d34-ea31-4b3a-a2c3-f27108518686_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 19:51:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4ACAA1834CE; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=-G7fX_kBx1MA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Hbx6DK5ANQc0G-Anl00A:9 a=OzGCBsmQWVbe82UZgIuS4HVaMAoA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=5OIvREUgS93RdanYZw4A:9 a=f0Ec44ATA42w_kujX1kA:7 a=Vlbrx-6QlpUvESEWvlhmoUBCU6gA:4 Message-ID: <20110114145143.L6ALY.14070549.root@mp18> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:51:43 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another audio example of mobius scripts in use Cc: Kevin Cheli-Colando In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_52888743_356287671.1295034696348" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 68.118.35.162 by ssomail.charter.net; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:51:35 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <4Y-WAD.A.l0G.RlKMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:51:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_52888743_356287671.1295034696348 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I dunno, but the same thing has happened to me too. My intent was to go mostly software. But I am going to have more pedals and gear at my feet than ever before just to control it. ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: ============= That was really great, exactly the kind of looping I'm looking to explore when I finally get the software configured (I sold all this gear of mine to force a move to software and wound up buying more hardware with the cash instead, Doh! How does that happen?). But this is inspiring me back to software. Thanks, Kevin ------=_Part_52888743_356287671.1295034696348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I dunno, but the same thing has happened to me too.

My intent was to go mostly software.

But I am going to have more pedals and gear at my feet than ever before just to control it.



---- Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:

=============
That was really great, exactly the kind of looping I'm looking to
explore when I finally get the software configured (I sold all this
gear of mine to force a move to software and wound up buying more
hardware with the cash instead, Doh! How does that happen?). But
this is inspiring me back to software.

Thanks,

Kevin

------=_Part_52888743_356287671.1295034696348-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 19:54:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 085AC1834D0; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=st1NlH/OAEyoA9TXISFVj76OQzW0Gk1oP8m6o77oTF0=; b=Ml9hIvq1etXSAX3zvpmpPVkeAu4j96mIspPD3o7XZkkF2kRVCxmXZhrolkoMF0wiQk oAYOV/G/A4iKql2M8tYmMUaXMfh28A7o6VAXfWCqjw1LrUuHTCviFOvtkHc/0UAIEPtM Da9+iEOeGTzs0GJSH/SfyhQEZ8UHvBrqZ1J3I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kqz0I40s9rWMMqV1BpbbswttrnaM3xIdEot0deiuNvLw51XPyc4crmx+ndkZuuyrMM pLESfS+UbiZ3zNXQ5vW9HNupY8rhcxa7nFrlDUmMMlQZgk3lPkv4DThJY/0vX6BAEqMZ UURNWjox21VIxNgYOcDPhlrSMvR8AiVxGFV6A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:54:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: klobucharian idyll From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:54:55 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you ever lived > in student accomodation?! ;-) > I can't help wondering what 100 loopers playing together would sound like > though - "dense" might be the word! Maybe like this 176 times overdubbed guitar solo I recorded? http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Guitar_Soli_Overdubbed_176_Times.mp3 > It's great to see all these new looping pedals coming out imo - soon the > avante guarde will be joined by the throng.. A big Salute to both! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 19:55:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 584171834E8; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=W3Wece/caLzntG21PSiABMWmQ3PPh0DM+kc5Jp1dFFk=; b=oypUJmSAZqL+UO2jmi/UR9VovKVQnVcS2ppSNOEUdAcpEDntciGsheSkwL93dBErLU 3+848a5by/3rCtU7pmiEe91K0XhDK0RfV2Ob4uoVObsSsGnq3tV2qbnifubEoXhDocmX E3anDH5KmWp9+NZvqGEdXV6eTExK8UbRbAum8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=KzFh1YUeMlvImIC44bRAgb0UEXXqcypuqAbenfr3UV7Ell3vVR6I5F6bYdku81GO7c wgvN/gaZHlQwRptBmobn5NhEkTvU/WgLqhTO0P5hONAGM3/T4lsO1rkEYAulQhit9oqF k0JxmR4yE+SAZBDBEgy2E+2zvdsJxsRS6ED0w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110114145143.L6ALY.14070549.root@mp18> References: <20110114145143.L6ALY.14070549.root@mp18> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:55:51 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another audio example of mobius scripts in use From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a98a44f3af0499d3d20c Resent-Message-ID: <36iozB.A.bDH.JpKMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:55:53 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a98a44f3af0499d3d20c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i managed to make the switch without adding anything on the floor (in fact it reduced slightly). i was already using a novation control surface to control the LP-1 and some of the rack gear, so this has now switched function to controlling mobius and the plugins. conceptually, i wanted to keep everything pretty much the same, so the switch wasn't too mind-bending= . sim On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:51 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wr= ote: > I dunno, but the same thing has happened to me too. > > My intent was to go mostly software. > > But I am going to have more pedals and gear at my feet than ever before > just to control it. > > > > ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > That was really great, exactly the kind of looping I'm looking to > explore when I finally get the software configured (I sold all this > gear of mine to force a move to software and wound up buying more > hardware with the cash instead, Doh! How does that happen?). But > this is inspiring me back to software. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > --000e0cd6a98a44f3af0499d3d20c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i managed to make the switch without adding anything on the floor (in fact = it reduced slightly). i was already using a novation control surface to con= trol the LP-1 and some of the rack gear, so this has now switched function = to controlling mobius and the plugins. conceptually, i wanted to keep every= thing pretty much the same, so the switch wasn't too mind-bending.

sim


On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:51 = PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
=20 =20 =20 =20

I dunno, but the same thing has happened to me too.

My intent was to go mostly software.

But I am going to have more pedals and gear at my feet than ever=20 before just to control it.



---- Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:

=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


That=20 was really great, exactly the kind of looping I'm looking toexplore=20 when I finally get the software configured (I sold all this
gear= of=20 mine to force a move to software and wound up buying more
hardwa= re=20 with the cash instead, Doh! How does that happen?). But
this is= =20 inspiring me back to software.

Thanks,

Kevin

--000e0cd6a98a44f3af0499d3d20c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 20:21:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 193201834D7; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kPpaMvqzVFx9Elckg8QPlrf26O0HetlF7sNlW4jVS/w=; b=k7ohVNUTg72/hgMNORZOwaIJ7Jx9LOC0rX/pe5NWOMmSTHKNcQqO1SasfQtj5exhFU zk7SUU9WBkUYf0uN+Iasq0v9mMmkzH7ksdcyt2P5TO9L59zNNPirM7yMr1y5NBiVUYkr A/3793hcRuijEARY6NXO7G4aVp4igWWhQecN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YMPbqZbMOU+eiTL3TVMPBgE4jky8/vmQz/pQ3PoxuCdD8zQmzEoLyCUhz8NAMJpFSs eRgd1YiRqeCriLeSL9PlIGDbIuzOPrOnJaoa7CIt+uc28Q9DTP9Jk1HupqAx+ks3DzvQ lvjbhTxzbkN/eQhHblKREldIEMBdJmM8xIDI8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110114145143.L6ALY.14070549.root@mp18> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:21:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another audio example of mobius scripts in use From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:21:06 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i managed to make the switch without adding anything on the floor Lovely to free up floor space like that! With the West African electro dance band I play EWI with I don't have any control surfaces at all - no fiddling by hands nor feet needed. But the sound patches I play are full of "action commands" on note numbers outside the tonally sounding note range. That's neat :-) Possible because the instrument sends MIDI when played. I did experiment with audio input level being read by an Envelope Follower function (Bidule) to instantly adjust certain processing to follow my guitar attack. It worked pretty well. Typically cool for feedback control in loopers, delays and reverbs. And for filter cutoff ("auto-chuck-a-wha") Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 20:49:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6971E1834B0; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TogK5W0/Ef5yOXwxb95uzo6MfYO3Jg5irsllktBzwNg=; b=jGJ+HKCWFiPG54sk3U5MZ6C2gp6nl80Ijq5Z3SbTH3u/J9zaEGCCkmFKx7G39vGkws CxPCTGixPA5TUgdfIXX34OAKz2kcqlUgUKxJ9gE0OeIlIIpm4N1VzLXN7hMp2NZj2epU jEjMQa/PObjOzFTq0WjXXXVJo0JBMfBTWSVp8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MwXbAtwdtsskblEwEbARfyE2aNJiX8h34XxgInTE6gJ3DWXQpExd0KtjqzX64zoIzf c/aV2hIPs8LMoylG4GQi+QdgxIg7oMcuQuzycI8YE2EdvqYekZpxltnV7Hy72lIUiyrl ENX0O9vjg04hduTe64r9cM6cddh5hDCoWnF34= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <781765391.1428578.1295027861720.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:49:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: someone please help me unsubscribe From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30433eeccdf8ec0499d49080 Resent-Message-ID: <2yKXpB.A.HOB.FbLMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:49:09 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30433eeccdf8ec0499d49080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 axis4, if you followed the instructions in Jim Goodin's post and it didn't work, I suspect you didn't do it from the same email account you used to register in the first place. By the way, if you do manage to get out and you run into Peter Leinhos, could you say Hi from all of us? Best, Keith On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM, wrote: > > Please for real someone help !! > > Someone just did help. Please check this thread's backlog. > > Per > (Looper's Island Subscriber) > > --20cf30433eeccdf8ec0499d49080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable axis4, if you followed the instructions in Jim Goodin's post and it did= n't work, I suspect you didn't do it from the same email account yo= u used to register in the first place.

By the way, if you do manage = to get out and you run into Peter Leinhos, could you say Hi from all of us?=

Best,
Keith

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Per Boysen= <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM, =A0<axis4@comcast.net> wrote:
> Please for real someone help !!

Someone just did help. Please check this thread's backlog.

Per
(Looper's Island Subscriber)

--20cf30433eeccdf8ec0499d49080-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 14 22:33:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA5FF183486; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1991ab33-cb20-475d-bd9b-e88a4d14066f_" X-Originating-IP: [174.125.16.150] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: Vox VDL-1 - release date? Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:33:34 -0600 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2011 22:33:35.0378 (UTC) FILETIME=[14B6B720:01CBB43B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:33:37 +0000 (UTC) --_1991ab33-cb20-475d-bd9b-e88a4d14066f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable any word from NAMM on when this guy comes out? The Wandering Madman=20 = --_1991ab33-cb20-475d-bd9b-e88a4d14066f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable any word from NAMM on when this guy comes out?



The= Wandering Madman

= --_1991ab33-cb20-475d-bd9b-e88a4d14066f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 00:14:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 022D518345E; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 00:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: someone please help me subscribe References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-13-1063122619"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> thread-topic: someone please help me subscribe thread-index: Acu0SRaYsDRw9aYcTw+KoJ1hO/iomg== Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:13:38 -0800 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2011 00:14:35.0979 (UTC) FILETIME=[311D09B0:01CBB449] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 00:14:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-13-1063122619 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll be there if there are plenty of hot hippy chicks Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:50 AM, wrote: > it was said "that when listening to the music of KLOBUCHAR, you would > pray for more ears!" > this is true of LD.....so many good topics floating around, NAMM, > reviews, tons of GOOD STUFF..... > i would like to have several subscriptions.....:).....a thought: let's > say you have 100 > loopers living all over the planet.....that means there are 100 > bathrooms, 100 kitchens, 100 rents, > 100 food bills, etc etc.....now that's a lot of duplication and waste > of resources not to mention, lack > of support.....in the way back, i spent 5 years living and studying in > a CARMELITE MONASTERY..... > yes, there will be a movie about this.....but, that ingrained within me > a sense of community and > leaving there and blasting into the world (1965) of HIPPIE COMMUNES, i > have always liked and benefited > by living with others.....remember, you can only be in one room at a > time.....LD is like that, a supportive > community, and being as agoraphobic and zenophobic as i now am, i > thankfully look forward, daily, to the posts..... > so.....who is going to hit the lottery and lead all of the > LOOPERKINDERN to the LOOPASTERY on > LOOPER ISLAND.....we got to act fast because even FORD will be coming > out with a looper..... > then everyone will be a looper!.....what is the NEXT BIG THING? > > > > > > --Apple-Mail-13-1063122619 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I'll be there if there are plenty of hot hippy chicks

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:50 AM, <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:

it was said "that when listening to the music of KLOBUCHAR, you would
pray for more ears!"
this is true of LD.....so many good topics floating around, NAMM,
reviews, tons of GOOD STUFF.....
i would like to have several subscriptions.....:).....a thought: let's
say you have 100
loopers living all over the planet.....that means there are 100
bathrooms, 100 kitchens, 100 rents,
100 food bills, etc etc.....now that's a lot of duplication and waste
of resources not to mention, lack
of support.....in the way back, i spent 5 years living and studying in
a CARMELITE MONASTERY.....
yes, there will be a movie about this.....but, that ingrained within me
a sense of community and
leaving there and blasting into the world (1965) of HIPPIE COMMUNES, i
have always liked and benefited
by living with others.....remember, you can only be in one room at a
time.....LD is like that, a supportive
community, and being as agoraphobic and zenophobic as i now am, i
thankfully look forward, daily, to the posts.....
so.....who is going to hit the lottery and lead all of the
LOOPERKINDERN to the LOOPASTERY on
LOOPER ISLAND.....we got to act fast because even FORD will be coming
out with a looper.....
then everyone will be a looper!.....what is the NEXT BIG THING?




 

--Apple-Mail-13-1063122619-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 00:15:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BD5018345D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 00:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: NAMM References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-14-1063186314"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> thread-topic: NAMM thread-index: Acu0STx20M4+gQkyRGuvbi0bEsFnUQ== Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:14:39 -0800 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2011 00:15:35.0666 (UTC) FILETIME=[54B08D20:01CBB449] Resent-Message-ID: <_AixY.A.6HB.ocOMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 00:15:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-14-1063186314 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There is a looper world Championship tonight spinsired by boss. More later. Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:50 AM, wrote: > it was said "that when listening to the music of KLOBUCHAR, you would > pray for more ears!" > this is true of LD.....so many good topics floating around, NAMM, > reviews, tons of GOOD STUFF..... > i would like to have several subscriptions.....:).....a thought: let's > say you have 100 > loopers living all over the planet.....that means there are 100 > bathrooms, 100 kitchens, 100 rents, > 100 food bills, etc etc.....now that's a lot of duplication and waste > of resources not to mention, lack > of support.....in the way back, i spent 5 years living and studying in > a CARMELITE MONASTERY..... > yes, there will be a movie about this.....but, that ingrained within me > a sense of community and > leaving there and blasting into the world (1965) of HIPPIE COMMUNES, i > have always liked and benefited > by living with others.....remember, you can only be in one room at a > time.....LD is like that, a supportive > community, and being as agoraphobic and zenophobic as i now am, i > thankfully look forward, daily, to the posts..... > so.....who is going to hit the lottery and lead all of the > LOOPERKINDERN to the LOOPASTERY on > LOOPER ISLAND.....we got to act fast because even FORD will be coming > out with a looper..... > then everyone will be a looper!.....what is the NEXT BIG THING? > > > > > > --Apple-Mail-14-1063186314 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
There is a looper world Championship tonight spinsired by boss. More later. 

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:50 AM, <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:

it was said "that when listening to the music of KLOBUCHAR, you would
pray for more ears!"
this is true of LD.....so many good topics floating around, NAMM,
reviews, tons of GOOD STUFF.....
i would like to have several subscriptions.....:).....a thought: let's
say you have 100
loopers living all over the planet.....that means there are 100
bathrooms, 100 kitchens, 100 rents,
100 food bills, etc etc.....now that's a lot of duplication and waste
of resources not to mention, lack
of support.....in the way back, i spent 5 years living and studying in
a CARMELITE MONASTERY.....
yes, there will be a movie about this.....but, that ingrained within me
a sense of community and
leaving there and blasting into the world (1965) of HIPPIE COMMUNES, i
have always liked and benefited
by living with others.....remember, you can only be in one room at a
time.....LD is like that, a supportive
community, and being as agoraphobic and zenophobic as i now am, i
thankfully look forward, daily, to the posts.....
so.....who is going to hit the lottery and lead all of the
LOOPERKINDERN to the LOOPASTERY on
LOOPER ISLAND.....we got to act fast because even FORD will be coming
out with a looper.....
then everyone will be a looper!.....what is the NEXT BIG THING?




 

--Apple-Mail-14-1063186314-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 00:22:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45DE818345E; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 00:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YuMbj/j3Kzn9BB4HXDOrfW0tgQz2VQgBYngo/o7c3wM=; b=gACDlWtRhwAnOs8Qr9VtPIqzalKtZ2sDpjYaXIKtlTOhFzXGokhge9DFrNERrsRUCP tR62W+rNQNobUsfnX1diQXh3yXJ7wSKwPjDsNGoRwGJlb6ZwIrzmA6wKSl9Psa28MKCO 4+6iguE2BZqrSZyk7aviFI/ZQGK6Z0mJpWDRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MmcU/Mb1yWT+H9SoogCBHVNEEcNwWikqOJHphrgFAyy5qwbM/iA79Zh6jrt+TV3m4y j+os/4nJ9wiDtqJxY3S0ilGe0xNnIUyYmyLroL9ZRv8bd5/nrOyokW/mlwFi2dK062AM RaEsvHDhlq3J4xgkLlWghzlUAVECqmGh7NBI8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 01:22:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAMM From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 00:22:19 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > There is a looper world Championship tonight spinsired by boss. The Boss.... that's Bruce Springsteen! ("Loopings From Ashbury Park") Per ;-) From grahamdouglas13@att.net Sat Jan 15 02:15:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from nm3-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm3-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.90.231]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C212B183453 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 02:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.65] by nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2011 02:14:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.7] by tm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2011 02:14:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2011 02:14:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 838771.51278.bm@omp1007.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 15602 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2011 02:14:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1295057692; bh=KtZ0ZFWV6Y/3ps5OXzBr/8XB1icGUkCIzcmnQIlM2gw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5Qy2mTs+gXmXHJVMjum02qG6fRhENRgoCeD01QoeZzJKmCIzOggG9zLRmCfsd9oED/ra6RcyN6sTSt9alheCTpjphLWzt9mzvT9QLK9ouO4qxQarlRK0GCw7t4HJFeDvYNluVKsTjAfo6ogBZyIA9C1tD+BFzZdml7Mnm8uL47k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MwfSYXMhoFewBzEpQH0HaMIHCjNcth5hYwSdp9XR9oxjPd+vgBGeITGVTsJPJAbVb78UXdw8El7axAdOkQMW23vGg5vggc8PPZpOi0NoumGxNaC5qGj9o6+dshW2QSyOFi88/cDK2xolP9OE/qbnxVcNM9XE296l7NhJ10ro9e8=; Message-ID: <456250.15370.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QHTkG5kVM1lmP.7qPvGXk86aNwZVSvs_60Bl8EqMICAcwTO 4ASb4IMbOGQsXBN_XUURwfe6TsjPrsTo_CSKGW42EA3KxgX3tIJPNzaVLS5W qi9sX3EF9oKDuVDHUBwGDLZmBc7vPOxf6m8fn9lkkT8WiioAomSNjx6.xH9h NU.9RQxisKRIryBb50aFyAJXbEi7o1_pFLby57UH.RArfaI29QBRpG5OgtAZ jSwFg_znmF9417lYV2U2rivKJViVIzDAnUyISEe8iB84mXfhGgQcHmv2NqqJ j2_EpbrqAAM.MTmSt2jJT_j.7KOl.Cdbh6RZ_f00h0hzt0STMCUCMxn_UPcQ cL4C_0ujP.VoKN.A2kAvVEAl_nAh05PTgQuw9PL35KFlrItm8NRIvhyG8vMp nyeNOAof3vu6woFAxwGho4IJwcIrS8hcA3wl3YgpCoGsZjiFbrJnIr_0bZw- - Received: from [41.211.232.146] by web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:14:52 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:14:52 -0800 (PST) From: graham douglas Reply-To: gradouglasz@yahoo.co.jp Subject: ($7.500,000,00) Inheritance Fund transaction. To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1577026152-1295057692=:15370" --0-1577026152-1295057692=:15370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear sir, I am Barrister Graham Douglas, the legal Representative to "Late Eng Michael Khan",an expartrate who worked with an oil servicing Company in Nigeria. On 7th sept 2009 my client, his wife and their only daughter were involved in a plane crash and all the family lost there lives. Since then I have made several inquiries to locate any of his relatives but this proved unsuccessful. The reason i contacted you is to assist me in receiving the fund valued at $7.5,000,000.00, UNITED STATES DOLLARS left behind by my client before it gets Confiscated or declared unserviceable by the bank where this money was deposited as his next of kin or relation. The bank issued me a notice to provide the relations or families of the deceased or have the account confiscated by the end of this fiscal year. For the fact that I have been unsuccessful in locating the relatives for over 2 years now, I seek your consent to present you as the family member to the deceased so that this money can be paid into your account as his next of kin and after we share it . This is a secret between you and i. Therefore, if you are interested contact me with my email or call me on my line for explanation. I have all necessary information needed to back you up for claim without any hitch. Thanks. SINCERELY, Mr Graham Douglas{Esq} +2347042402785 --0-1577026152-1295057692=:15370 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Dear sir,

I am Barrister Graham Douglas, the legal Representative to "Late Eng Michael Khan",an expartrate who worked with an oil servicing Company in Nigeria.

On 7th sept 2009 my client, his wife and their only daughter were involved in a plane crash and all the family lost there lives. Since then I have made several inquiries to locate any of his relatives but this proved unsuccessful.


The reason i contacted you is to assist me in receiving the fund valued at $7.5,000,000.00, UNITED STATES DOLLARS left behind by my client before it gets Confiscated or declared unserviceable by the bank where this money was deposited as his next of kin or relation.

The bank issued me a notice to provide the relations or families of the deceased or have the account confiscated by the end of this fiscal year.

For the fact that I have been unsuccessful in locating the relatives for over 2 years now, I seek your consent to present you as the family member to the deceased so that this money can be paid into your account as his next of kin and
after we share it . This is a secret between you and i.

Therefore, if you are interested contact me with my email or call me
on my line for explanation. I have all necessary information needed to back you up for claim without any hitch.
Thanks.

SINCERELY,

Mr Graham Douglas{Esq}
+2347042402785
--0-1577026152-1295057692=:15370-- From kennycelk100@yahoo.com Sat Jan 15 02:36:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 16461 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 02:36:51 UTC Received: from isaacnewton.edu.ec (mail.isaacnewton.edu.ec [190.90.232.203]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8027183453 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 02:36:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by isaacnewton.edu.ec (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3402926902F; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:42:12 -0500 (ECT) Received: from 41-184-6-147.rv.ipnxtelecoms.com (41-184-6-147.rv.ipnxtelecoms.com [41.184.6.147]) by mail.isaacnewton.edu.ec (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:42:11 -0500 Message-ID: <20110114134211.zdsay14a8scs88ks@mail.isaacnewton.edu.ec> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:42:11 -0500 From: "Dr. Kenny Celk" Reply-to: kennycelk@gmail.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: CONFIDENTIAL COURIER PAYMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Colegio-Isaac-Newton-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Colegio-Isaac-Newton-MailScanner-ID: 3402926902F.A46BB X-Colegio-Isaac-Newton-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No FROM: DR. KENNY CELK London Clearing House Aldgate House 33 Aldgate High St, London, EC3N 1EA, United Kingdom TEL: +44 7045774416 CONFIDENTIAL COURIER PAYMENT I am Kenny Celk of LONDON CLEARING HOUSE LTD I decided to contact you =20 because of the prevailing security report reaching my office and the =20 intense nature of polity in London. This is to inform you about our =20 plan to send your fund to you via cash delivery system, This system =20 will be easier for you and for us. We are going to send your payment =20 of US$7.3 Million to you via courier service. I have secured every =20 needed document to cover this fund. Note: This fund is coming in 2 security proof boxes which are sealed =20 with Synthetic nylon seal and padded with machine. I will use my =20 position to facilitate the RELEASE ORDER of this fund to you. The =20 boxes are coming with a Courier agent who will deliver them to you at =20 your home address. All you need to do now is to send to me: 1. Your full name 2. Your full house address 3. Your contact phone numbers 4. Your Occupation 5. Sex Note: The Agent does not know the contents in these boxes, the content =20 was declared to him as Sensitive Photographic Film Materials. I will secure the clearance Certificate that will be tagged on the =20 boxes which I will dispatch along with the security inner Keys of the =20 consignments to enable you access them as soon as they are delivered =20 to you. It can also be transfer through Telegraphic Online Transfer. Best Regards, Dr. Kenny Celk. 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Micheal Jones { ESQ}" Reply-To: barrmichealjones1@yahoo.co.jp Subject: I Wait For Your Kind Response To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1025814330-1295067912=:13842" --0-1025814330-1295067912=:13842 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael and Michael Chambers=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 Plot 63 Ajeye wale Crescent Surulere, Lagos.=20 Email: {barrmichealjones1@yahoo.co.jp}=20 =A0 I am Barrister Micheal Jones Attorney to the late Engr.Ronald Johnson,I Hop= ed that you will not expose or betray this trust and confident that i am ab= out to establish with you for the mutual benefit of me and you. =A0 However, I am Barrister Micheal Jones Attorney to the late Engr.Ronald John= son, a national of Northern American, who used to work with Shell Petroleum= Development Company(SPDC) in Nigeria . Monday, 31 July, 2000, My client,hi= s wife And their three children were involved in air crash since July 31st = 2000 The victims of the AF4590 crash include all 109 people on board and fi= ve who died on the ground when the Auto crashed towards Oshodi/expressway =A0 Unfortunately they all lost their lives in the event of the accident, Since= then I have made several inquiries to several Embassies to locate any of m= y clients extended relatives, this has also proved unsuccessful.=20 =A0 After these several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to trace his relatives= over the Internet to locate any member of his family but of no avail, henc= e I contacted you to assist in repatriating the money and property left beh= ind by my client,I can easily convince the bank with my legal practice that= you are the only surviving relation of my client. Otherwise the Estate he = left behind will be confiscated or declared unserviceable by the bank where= this huge deposits were lodged.Particularly, the Bank where the deceased h= ad an account valued at about $15 million U.S dollars(Fifteen million U.S.A= merica dollars).=20 =A0 Consequently,The bank issued me a notice to provide the next of kin or have= the account confiscated within the next ten official working days. Since I= have been unsuccessful in locating the relatives for over several years no= w.I seek your consent to present you as the next of kin to the deceased,so = that the proceeds of this account valued at $15million U.S dollars can be p= aid to your account and then you and me can share the money. 55% to me and = 40% to you,while 5% should be for expenses or tax as your government may re= quire.=20 =A0 All I require is your honest cooperation to enable us see this deal through= and also forward the following to me:=20 =A0 Your Full Name:=20 Your Age and Gender :=20 Your Nationality:=20 Your House Address:=20 Your Occupation:=20 Your Tele-phone And Fax No:=20 =A0 I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that = will protect you from any breach of the law.Please get in touch with me VIA= this my confidential email {barrmichealjones1@yahoo.co.jp) =A0 Yours Faithfully,=20 Barr. Micheal Jones { SAN } --0-1025814330-1295067912=:13842 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Michael and Michael Chamb= ers        
Plot 63 Ajeye wale = Crescent
Surulere, Lagos.
Email: <= em>{barrmichealjones1@yahoo.co.jp}
 =
I am Barrister Micheal Jones Attorney to the late Engr.Ronald Johnson,I= Hoped that you will not expose or betray this trust and confident that i a= m about to establish with you for the mutual benefit of me and you.
&nbs= p;
However, I am Barrister Micheal Jones Attorney to the late Engr.Ronal= d Johnson, a national of Northern American, who used to work with Shell Pet= roleum Development Company(SPDC) in Nigeria . Monday, 31 July, 2000, My cli= ent,his wife And their three children were involved in air crash since July= 31st 2000 The victims of the AF4590 crash include all 109 people on board and f= ive who died on the ground when the Auto crashed towards Oshodi/expressway<= br> 
Unfortunately they all lost their lives in the event of the ac= cident, Since then I have made several inquiries to several Embassies to lo= cate any of my clients extended relatives, this has also proved unsuccessfu= l.
 
After these several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to tr= ace his relatives over the Internet to locate any member of his family but = of no avail, hence I contacted you to assist in repatriating the money and = property left behind by my client,I can easily convince the bank with my le= gal practice that you are the only surviving relation of my client. Otherwi= se the Estate he left behind will be confiscated or declared unserviceable = by the bank where this huge deposits were lodged.Particularly, the Bank whe= re the deceased had an account valued at about $15 million U.S dollars(Fifteen million U.S.America dollars).
 
Consequently,T= he bank issued me a notice to provide the next of kin or have the account c= onfiscated within the next ten official working days. Since I have been uns= uccessful in locating the relatives for over several years now.I seek your = consent to present you as the next of kin to the deceased,so that the proce= eds of this account valued at $15million U.S dollars can be paid to your ac= count and then you and me can share the money. 55% to me and 40% to you,whi= le 5% should be for expenses or tax as your government may require.
&nb= sp;
All I require is your honest cooperation to enable us see this deal = through and also forward the following to me:
 
Your Full Name:=
Your Age and Gender :
Your Nationality:
Your House Address: Your Occupation:
Your Tele-phone And Fax No:
 
I guarante= e that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law.Please get in touch with me VI= A this my confidential email {barrmic= healjones1@yahoo.co.jp)
 
Yours Fa= ithfully,
Barr. Micheal Jones { SAN }
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References: ,<33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>,,<8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2011 07:23:56.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BA2CA10:01CBB485] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 07:23:58 +0000 (UTC) --_84fd2eaa-2e26-40ce-b0ab-beaf60bb8862_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool little soundbyte per! ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it - look= s interesting but God I hate those guitar synth demos... =20 peace =20 G =20 > Date: Fri=2C 14 Jan 2011 20:54:54 +0100 > Subject: Re: klobucharian idyll > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > On Fri=2C Jan 14=2C 2011 at 8:47 PM=2C Gareth Whittock > wrote: > > I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you ever li= ved > > in student accomodation?! =3B-) > > I can't help wondering what 100 loopers playing together would sound li= ke > > though - "dense" might be the word! >=20 > Maybe like this 176 times overdubbed guitar solo I recorded? > http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Guitar_Soli_Overdubbed_176_Times.mp3 >=20 > > It's great to see all these new looping pedals coming out imo - soon th= e > > avante guarde will be joined by the throng.. >=20 > A big Salute to both! >=20 > Per >=20 = --_84fd2eaa-2e26-40ce-b0ab-beaf60bb8862_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool little =3Bsoundbyte per!
ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it - look= s interesting but God I hate those =3Bguitar synth demos...
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>=3B Date: Fri=2C 14 Jan 2011 20:54:54 +0100
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>=3B On Fri=2C Jan 14=2C 2011 at 8= :47 PM=2C Gareth Whittock
>=3B <=3Bbuddhamachine@live.co.uk>=3B wr= ote:
>=3B >=3B I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people = - have you ever lived
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>=3B >=3B It's great to see all these new looping pedals = coming out imo - soon the
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= --_84fd2eaa-2e26-40ce-b0ab-beaf60bb8862_-- From tmccart@fnni.com Sat Jan 15 14:42:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2522 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 14:42:58 UTC Received: from bwmg1.fnni.com (bwmg1.fnni.com [204.58.233.2]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE64183451 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 14:42:38 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: DONATE; { bstpgates@aim.com } Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 07:58:13 -0600 Message-ID: <2874942D0039C44694CDB55A8978C7B2066F98CD@TCEX14P.fnb.fnni.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DONATE; { bstpgates@aim.com } Thread-Index: Acu0vD4mxsmtABZMShCJIT9FE7p3jg== From: "McCart, Teresa" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2011 13:58:20.0244 (UTC) FILETIME=[44456140:01CBB4BC] X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected To: undisclosed-recipients:; Received-SPF: none DONATE; { bstpgates@aim.com } I am Janet Brown diagnosed for cancer,has a time limit to live,I = WILL/donate the sum of USD$10 Million to you.Contact my Attorney stephen = gates { bstpgates@aim.com },tel; +447045735858,for claims with this = email { bstpgates@aim.com } 15th Jan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 16:03:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86E8E18345D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Zoe at namm References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: Zoe at namm thread-index: Acu0zZifAqxITbBvS7CHGUNu0BRXow== Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 08:02:10 -0800 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2011 16:03:22.0633 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC0B1790:01CBB4CD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Hey we are sittin here eatin bacon waitin for zoe Pics and blog on my website www.andyowens.com Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Gareth Whittock wro= te: > Cool little soundbyte per! > ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it - loo= ks interesting but God I hate those guitar synth demos... > =20 > peace > =20 > G >=20 > =20 > > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:54:54 +0100 > > Subject: Re: klobucharian idyll > > From: perboysen@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Gareth Whittock > > wrote: > > > I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you ever l= ived > > > in student accomodation?! ;-) > > > I can't help wondering what 100 loopers playing together would sound l= ike > > > though - "dense" might be the word! > >=20 > > Maybe like this 176 times overdubbed guitar solo I recorded? > > http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Guitar_Soli_Overdubbed_176_Times.mp3 > >=20 > > > It's great to see all these new looping pedals coming out imo - soon t= he > > > avante guarde will be joined by the throng.. > >=20 > > A big Salute to both! > >=20 > > Per > >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 16:07:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D74118345D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Proud and loud!! References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: Proud and loud!! thread-index: Acu0zkfSMtm6MrVXQxeIEgWXYeXv0w== Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 08:07:03 -0800 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2011 16:07:22.0955 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B4951B0:01CBB4CE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Hey loopers be proud and loud, our Zoe playing the opening session today!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:03 AM, "Andy Owens" wrote: > Hey we are sittin here eatin bacon waitin for zoe >=20 > Pics and blog on my website www.andyowens.com >=20 > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! >=20 >=20 > On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Gareth Whittock w= rote: >=20 >> Cool little soundbyte per! >> ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it - lo= oks interesting but God I hate those guitar synth demos... >>=20 >> peace >>=20 >> G >>=20 >>=20 >>> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:54:54 +0100 >>> Subject: Re: klobucharian idyll >>> From: perboysen@gmail.com >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Gareth Whittock >>> wrote: >>>> I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you ever li= ved >>>> in student accomodation?! ;-) >>>> I can't help wondering what 100 loopers playing together would sound li= ke >>>> though - "dense" might be the word! >>>=20 >>> Maybe like this 176 times overdubbed guitar solo I recorded? >>> http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Guitar_Soli_Overdubbed_176_Times.mp3 >>>=20 >>>> It's great to see all these new looping pedals coming out imo - soon th= e >>>> avante guarde will be joined by the throng.. >>>=20 >>> A big Salute to both! >>>=20 >>> Per >>>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 16:26:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 601DE18345D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Proud and loud!! References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: Proud and loud!! thread-index: Acu00NrhpuI2n4foRImiW7GbX2P2wQ== Message-ID: <40DA5E98-DB02-4FAC-8619-3DA0041E6CC3@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 08:25:28 -0800 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2011 16:26:24.0845 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3E7E7D0:01CBB4D0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Zoe is kicking ass!!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:07 AM, "Andy Owens" wrote: > Hey loopers be proud and loud, our Zoe playing the opening session today!!= >=20 > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! >=20 >=20 > On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:03 AM, "Andy Owens" wrote: >=20 >> Hey we are sittin here eatin bacon waitin for zoe >>=20 >> Pics and blog on my website www.andyowens.com >>=20 >> Andy Owens >> 1-800-AndyOwens >> Sent from my iPhone >> So the typing might not be my best! >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Gareth Whittock w= rote: >>=20 >>> Cool little soundbyte per! >>> ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it - l= ooks interesting but God I hate those guitar synth demos... >>>=20 >>> peace >>>=20 >>> G >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:54:54 +0100 >>>> Subject: Re: klobucharian idyll >>>> From: perboysen@gmail.com >>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Gareth Whittock >>>> wrote: >>>>> I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you ever l= ived >>>>> in student accomodation?! ;-) >>>>> I can't help wondering what 100 loopers playing together would sound l= ike >>>>> though - "dense" might be the word! >>>>=20 >>>> Maybe like this 176 times overdubbed guitar solo I recorded? >>>> http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Guitar_Soli_Overdubbed_176_Times.mp3 >>>>=20 >>>>> It's great to see all these new looping pedals coming out imo - soon t= he >>>>> avante guarde will be joined by the throng.. >>>>=20 >>>> A big Salute to both! >>>>=20 >>>> Per >>>>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 17:26:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E538B18345D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PzTSB9NqxvQdTIyb7zMV9izy/Otf1jwiGZ3qtnV9qLY=; b=fOXbcR6g5DJR61QVyEXPsApn5drG+C9XeJL2qMGmL9PMq/vX3H3FSP5nrioVLWOgl1 OOw94NCpEN/+Wra8kHHNbUCxREuudMQ1bE8oCXSV+QFGdYeslNeK41Rsc6wBdUb6tCCD M/6rd+20W8jf/YEOnlSyOHQ2yBUCM8XwdTS+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NafRx7zWjnBel/Iu0NS0bCxMoCxlqAtln7TXiBt7An8ue2CMogEHc8LjzsL9Q1l1lH FknP79aieQ0FCyy6mxx9aapnzl57dwFsQBGpwkb+QhN1NlEWfL67RNKgXz5cS+1P8oKR 97EA+Nv/qhgglUFgUX37H2wP7DUjiIIsmT4RA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:25:55 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: new gear i've seen vids of: boss rc3/rc30/vox thing/tc electronics flashback delay.....looper as instrument vs storage From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7e8be5134a0499e5d780 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:25:59 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7e8be5134a0499e5d780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i have watched the vids of some of the new gear that has come out (i guess this is b/c of namm). the boss ones: rc3/30--ok, it seems boss has gone the "we need more storage time", so they put it up to 3 hr internal memory. it looks to me like they've lost the REVERSE function. which is what i loved most in my old rc20 (original 5 min version). i understand who this is marketed to, singer/songwriters who do the howie day thing i guess. and that's fine, or i guess we all need to become the one man band thing, that's ok too. the vids looked like cheezy crap to me. i would much rather see an actual looper F***ING play the thing, put it in front of david torn/andre lafosse/nels cline/etc and video tape them, see what they say.....(i know this thing isn't marketed to me, they're looking for youngsters who would be wow'ed by this i know) i guess it just comes down to this for me on the boss ones: it's storage, you can't really manipulate the loop at all-change length, pitch up down make it sound weird. i mean don't they realize that DJs a lot of times take samples and make them sound all WEIRD. ug. oh well. i 'm old and cranky (and sick still, ha). i do like the pitch down function, but hate that it's an "effect". WHY NOT PUT A F***ING KNOB ON THE THING SO THE USER CAN CONTROLL IT. i hope that this drives the price of the original rc20 down to pennies, i may get another one of them. the vox looper looks promising from the vid. looks like it has lots of options... the vids of the tc electronics flashback delay look good, has 40 sec looper also. i know i've heard complaints that it doesn't have wet/dry mix. which is a function i like (as does e. aarset!). although it looks like their version of the boss dd7 or digitech dl8, which is ok. i guess in the end watching these, it reminds me of the post from a few days ago, is your looper an "instrument" or "a storage device". i like it to be an instrument. when i looped on my old dod d12, i would usually set up a 6 sec delay, play some of my bad crap, but then i';d usually spin the giant time wheel either up or down and stretch the 6 sec to 12 sec, then down all the way to 1 sec to make it sound all crazy and f'd up. i loved that (and hence my wait for the ULTIMATE DELAY BASED LOOPER!!!), i really felt like i played it more than my guitar. and i have almost the same feeling w/ my EH 16 ddl-ri, love the up and down pitching and reverse option. i mean, come on people, this thing came out in the early 80s and no one can still make a device that can do what it does (see Nels Cline and what he does w/ it of course). it's inspiring stuff. oh well, end of my rant.... i'm old , i'm sick....i think i need to go listen to some more happy hip-hop stuff now.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0016364c7e8be5134a0499e5d780 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i have watched the vids of some of the new gear that has come out (i g= uess this is b/c of namm).
the boss ones: rc3/30--ok, it seems boss has gone the "we need mo= re storage time", so they put it up to 3 hr internal memory.
it looks to me like they've lost the REVERSE function. which is wh= at i loved most in my old rc20 (original 5 min version).
i understand who this is marketed to, singer/songwriters who do the ho= wie day thing i guess. and that's fine, or i guess we all
need to become the one man band thing, that's ok too.
the vids looked like cheezy crap to me. i would much rather see an act= ual looper F***ING play the thing, put it in front of david torn/andre lafo= sse/nels cline/etc
and video tape them, see what they say.....(i know this thing isn'= t marketed to me, they're looking for youngsters who would be wow'e= d by this i know)
i guess it just comes down to this for me on the boss ones: it's s= torage, you can't really manipulate the loop at all-change length, pitc= h up down make it sound
weird. i mean don't they realize that DJs a lot of times take samp= les and make them sound all WEIRD. ug. oh well. i 'm old and cranky (an= d sick still, ha).
i do like the pitch down function, but hate that it's an "eff= ect". WHY NOT PUT A F***ING KNOB ON THE THING SO THE USER CAN CONTROLL= IT.
i hope that this drives the price of the original rc20 down to pennies= , i may get another one of them.
=A0
the vox looper looks promising from the vid. looks like it has lots of= options...
the vids of the tc electronics flashback delay look good, has 40 sec l= ooper also. i know i've heard complaints that it doesn't have wet/d= ry mix. which is a function i like (as does e. aarset!). although it looks = like their version of the boss dd7 or digitech dl8, which is ok.
=A0
i guess in the end watching these, it reminds me of the post from a fe= w days ago, is your looper an "instrument" or "a storage dev= ice".
i like it to be=A0an instrument. when i looped on my old dod d12, i wo= uld usually set up a 6 sec delay, play some of my bad crap, but then i'= ;d usually spin the giant time wheel either up or down and stretch the 6 se= c to 12 sec, then down all the way to 1 sec to make it sound all crazy and = f'd up. i loved that (and hence my wait for the ULTIMATE DELAY BASED LO= OPER!!!), i really felt like i played it more than my guitar. and i have al= most the same feeling w/ my EH 16 ddl-ri, love the up and down pitching and= reverse option.
i mean, come on people, this thing came out in the early 80s and no on= e can still make a device that can do what it does (see Nels Cline and what= he does w/ it of course). it's inspiring stuff. oh well, end of my ran= t.... i'm old , i'm sick....i think i need to go listen to some mor= e happy hip-hop stuff now....
s---
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 18:46:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80AF818345C; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=4/P3QrV4568q5lwICyaGjxGzSdobaj+yCDLj2hUlXpo= c=1 sm=1 a=+oOqxtZ+ovgfj2I0snQLPg==:17 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=HBkJFGqYAAAA:8 a=CrjtqBp0AAAA:8 a=zWSFQDO9AAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=0Flo4ut1G4L4VGLzYN4A:9 a=dchOYgpwFwtUx-fJ1QrZq3WLNXQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=CURtFmvpWnMA:10 a=84tsCWNHjc4A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=1yLh2JjJdOHVxbJ5:21 a=4jQ_ere4UMrBsCrT:21 a=wmRZoYZJ26ALErx4n00A:9 a=GhnI544WsdpUBHBLmfsA:7 a=MXLcK5VN6-Tb0Y4WP2SBzPbArwsA:4 a=dgJYCCSB_DcA:10 a=+oOqxtZ+ovgfj2I0snQLPg==:117 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-30--1017607935 Subject: Re: Proud and loud!! Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:46:11 -0800 In-Reply-To: <40DA5E98-DB02-4FAC-8619-3DA0041E6CC3@1800dialword.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> <40DA5E98-DB02-4FAC-8619-3DA0041E6CC3@1800dialword.com> Message-Id: <0815662B-3C4B-45DD-9618-0907470FF882@glasswing.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <6xNFgB.A.qLD.2teMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:46:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-30--1017607935 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii is anyone surprised?=20 richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Zoe is kicking ass!!!! >=20 > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! >=20 >=20 > On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:07 AM, "Andy Owens" = wrote: >=20 >> Hey loopers be proud and loud, our Zoe playing the opening session = today!! >>=20 >> Andy Owens >> 1-800-AndyOwens >> Sent from my iPhone >> So the typing might not be my best! >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:03 AM, "Andy Owens" = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hey we are sittin here eatin bacon waitin for zoe >>>=20 >>> Pics and blog on my website www.andyowens.com >>>=20 >>> Andy Owens >>> 1-800-AndyOwens >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> So the typing might not be my best! >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Gareth Whittock = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Cool little soundbyte per! >>>> ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on = it - looks interesting but God I hate those guitar synth demos... >>>>=20 >>>> peace >>>>=20 >>>> G >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:54:54 +0100 >>>>> Subject: Re: klobucharian idyll >>>>> From: perboysen@gmail.com >>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Gareth Whittock >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you = ever lived >>>>>> in student accomodation?! ;-) >>>>>> I can't help wondering what 100 loopers playing together would = sound like >>>>>> though - "dense" might be the word! >>>>>=20 >>>>> Maybe like this 176 times overdubbed guitar solo I recorded? >>>>> = http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Guitar_Soli_Overdubbed_176_Times.mp3 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> It's great to see all these new looping pedals coming out imo - = soon the >>>>>> avante guarde will be joined by the throng.. >>>>>=20 >>>>> A big Salute to both! >>>>>=20 >>>>> Per >>>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-30--1017607935 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii is = anyone surprised? 

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On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Andy Owens wrote:

Zoe = is kicking ass!!!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my = iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 15, = 2011, at 8:07 AM, "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com> = wrote:

Hey loopers be proud and loud, = our Zoe playing the opening session today!!

Andy = Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my = best!


On Jan 15, = 2011, at 8:03 AM, "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com> = wrote:

Hey we are sittin here eatin bacon waitin for = zoe

Pics and blog on my website www.andyowens.com

Andy = Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my = iPhone
So the typing might not be my = best!


On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:24 PM, = Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> = wrote:

Cool = little soundbyte = per!
ps the = new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it - looks = interesting but God I hate those guitar synth = demos...

peace

G


Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:54:54 = +0100
Subject: Re: klobucharian = idyll
From: perboysen@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:47 PM, = Gareth = Whittock
<buddhamachine@live.co.uk> = wrote:
I'm = NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you ever = lived
=
in = student accomodation?! = ;-)
I = can't help wondering what 100 loopers playing together would sound = like
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
though = - "dense" might be the = word!
=

Maybe like this 176 times = overdubbed guitar solo I = recorded?
http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Guitar_Soli_Overdubbed_176_Times.mp3=

It's = great to see all these new looping pedals coming out imo - soon = the
avante = guarde will be joined by the = throng..

A big Salute to = both!

Per
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">





= --Apple-Mail-30--1017607935-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 19:10:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7335718345D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=x7GF9TjnQl7Bo5ZEVn50EfSGBHv3PPRvLDoAZ5KwR44=; b=diOybt02aY9UifNdO5efM8H6mhbuw/EXsaicnb1MSmg+iaPc3/SWiG3OdI7yVwqTd6 drvXULSnS9S8mUHpxKWJOzAqw7+ZXNmDRaekFpEZRNIzFaJ/bMrF/dx2O8gsMIXz0OA6 HBDzy+7fMd/kwWzTPa407eGyevvhm//l3zOLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sWXZE9QtnU5EPI6VeGvRordpZY4JCJLqZRVpcE/CyhbZ897NhmB0FHAYG64ETba4Yp ld9Z0nE8gZDyPDRyAOUEVoS1Z2Ky9EFXQEGSVnhsUahzmaFEIS1P31fTCl3uRhQL7X++ fCvXMMy7OdgZo/vOWa7B0K8Xk3S3QGnhIfn3o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 14:10:15 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: N4C0i0wiDT9UxlING9fJ40v5ctc Message-ID: Subject: Re: klobucharian idyll From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b0220af74f0499e74d67 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:10:18 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b0220af74f0499e74d67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 geez, memory is so cheap. just 20 secs? why, why, why? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Cool little soundbyte per! > ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it - > looks interesting but God I hate those guitar synth demos... > > peace > > G > > > > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:54:54 +0100 > > Subject: Re: klobucharian idyll > > From: perboysen@gmail.com > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Gareth Whittock > > wrote: > > > I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you ever > lived > > > in student accomodation?! ;-) > > > I can't help wondering what 100 loopers playing together would sound > like > > > though - "dense" might be the word! > > > > Maybe like this 176 times overdubbed guitar solo I recorded? > > http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Guitar_Soli_Overdubbed_176_Times.mp3 > > > > > It's great to see all these new looping pedals coming out imo - soon > the > > > avante guarde will be joined by the throng.. > > > > A big Salute to both! > > > > Per > > > -- Warren http://www.warrensirota.com Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --001636c5b0220af74f0499e74d67 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable geez, memory is so cheap. just 20 secs? why, why, why?

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co= .uk> wrote:
Cool little=A0soundbyte per!
ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it - look= s interesting but God I hate those=A0guitar synth demos...
=A0
peace
=A0
G

=A0
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:54:54 +0100
> Subject: Re: klobucharia= n idyll
> From: perboysen@gmail.com

> To: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 = at 8:47 PM, Gareth Whittock
> <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
> = > I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you ev= er lived
> > in student accomodation?! ;-)
> > I can't help wonde= ring what 100 loopers playing together would sound like
> > though= - "dense" might be the word!
>
> Maybe like this 17= 6 times overdubbed guitar solo I recorded?
> http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Guitar_Soli_Over= dubbed_176_Times.mp3
>
> > It's great to see all th= ese new looping pedals coming out imo - soon the
> > avante guarde will be joined by the throng..
>
> A b= ig Salute to both!
>
> Per
>



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--001636c5b0220af74f0499e74d67-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 20:02:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C72B18345D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9ckA6sMPXGZLNm3xpMIkdJwLehVnQWKV9lc4RRjByic=; b=VFwSMq1zKL8F8IQFML6gNlpUgq6j4TpKM39Hf61C5730wBYyfdT+5DaVLepaQXrCxu 5GhZ172GP3KS0yZGQ+pftQC4CYqfvdvdOh8t+mKLeDhCUEnRrn31aOcLBnqiRPy2RT2Z oQuTnxJqjI0NBVQIYH05PEIXQLnDMGlaaKGEo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ckD7C+L6bsY4N/DvvsPcWTNhyBckxpe9EIYZu6RrukS3U5t3Acj9zxkJhvZDVYInHb HNVlfnOgy3ajNe1b0ScZLYd922B8X45UsEeOeF2NRjuNakboSb3xDykIvXz99BG1ZyRj P62g+3TgFm08MGE2zVfYvKWmxg19ObH/THmcg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:02:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: klobucharian idyll From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:02:53 +0000 (UTC) In this video upload Rob Marcello says "you can overdub as much as you like into those 20 sec"! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBQfeDnat_oE&feature=3Drelated Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Warren Sirota wrot= e: > geez, memory is so cheap. just 20 secs? why, why, why? > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Gareth Whittock > wrote: >> >> Cool little=C2=A0soundbyte per! >> ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 20:25:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 095C1183459; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tHWveeuMdOHy6r6q0ftIa06q2NXZx9F7xUJOWpHK7ic=; b=CfLryUmlu1uyC6C80hZ96pqBeIovU8mit276h8URq+3QE3iH3CV3i9vxaBCci9MbbJ MKYToRyx8xzCyl3xh+LQtPy2hKlQeNeB95BCXvfZpkZozSv8nKpcAkFnsiCGTdiNXuny X9NX10Up/dgQ/RjchBqJT5/VJx0T+iD1sTI1Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Emkau1mzZT+IjA4WrGbFVgbiOhGFbg9e+bxC6Xl38M1BAnw6OAGi0pAlDtT8myQUC0 D1XfSIzbKfc1BV5bVXYlXS/rPj8dzS6mHDxVnDiOMNTmFPBwssKwI4bnT6bUzQd7YqZR WIEYOueOMu1Epu3Yuizv1Xinqmp7hD32CQXhg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:25:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Just found this video which kind explains why only 20 sec is regarded enough by Roland. Notice there's a lot more playing and recording than actual looping happening here; they totally lack a vision of a looper being used as a creative instrument! But one can still plug in a GK-3 dressed guitar and cable the GR-55's output into a real looper. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dkz9oA-YX9Cg&feature=3Drelated Per On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > In this video upload Rob Marcello says "you can overdub as much as you > like into those 20 sec"! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBQfeDnat_oE&feature=3Drelated > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Warren Sirota wr= ote: >> geez, memory is so cheap. just 20 secs? why, why, why? >> >> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Gareth Whittock >> wrote: >>> >>> Cool little=C2=A0soundbyte per! >>> ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 20:44:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0102D183459; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: midi visualizer vst? Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:44:16 +0100 Message-ID: <4C4F90D9668A436A8D3ADD927836C2F6@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acu09PnVjPml/iTpSsSZs7hdR7Y7QA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:44:22 +0000 (UTC) today I thought it would be very cool if I could dynamically visualize my own live music, but not with one of the many available audio based visualizers (like in Winamp) but midi controlled - e.g. by playing my midified guitar. I thought with midi I could have a much more precise and definable control over all parameters. I guess this can all be easily done with Max and Jitter but maybe there is a simple readymade tool for this? that I could plug into my Bidule? in Windows? I couldn't find anything strangely enough. Am I the first to imagine such a tool? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 21:03:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F292818345C; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_lGW/BJDX8ARWkTjFhca0tw)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-15_08:2011-01-14,2011-01-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101150096 Message-id: <5B5834B7-6A25-4E35-AA67-5C265F19D696@mac.com> From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <4C4F90D9668A436A8D3ADD927836C2F6@mpeserver> Subject: Re: midi visualizer vst? Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 14:03:47 -0700 References: <4C4F90D9668A436A8D3ADD927836C2F6@mpeserver> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:03:49 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_lGW/BJDX8ARWkTjFhca0tw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Michael; Been looking to do the same thing for a while now but not midi controlled - just audio driven. I just discovered this neat little DAW a couple days ago and it has a on board vizualizer host (Mac quartz compatible) that appears to be midi controllable as well as audio controllable. Check out Audiofile Engineering - Rax . Cheers. - Paul On Jan 15, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > today I thought it would be very cool if I could dynamically > visualize my > own live music, but not with one of the many available audio based > visualizers (like in Winamp) but midi controlled - e.g. by playing my > midified guitar. I thought with midi I could have a much more > precise and > definable control over all parameters. I guess this can all be > easily done > with Max and Jitter but maybe there is a simple readymade tool for > this? > that I could plug into my Bidule? in Windows? I couldn't find anything > strangely enough. Am I the first to imagine such a tool? > > -Michael > --Boundary_(ID_lGW/BJDX8ARWkTjFhca0tw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Michael;
Been looking to do = the same thing for a while now but not midi controlled - just audio = driven.  I just discovered this neat little DAW a couple days ago = and it has a on board vizualizer host (Mac quartz compatible) that = appears to be midi controllable as well as audio controllable. =  Check out Audiofile Engineering = - Rax .  Cheers. - Paul

On Jan 15, = 2011, at 1:44 PM, Michael Peters wrote:

today = I thought it would be very cool if I could dynamically visualize = my
own live music, but not with one of the many available audio = based
visualizers (like in Winamp) but midi controlled - e.g. by = playing my
midified guitar. I thought with midi I could have a much = more precise and
definable control over all parameters. I guess this = can all be easily done
with Max and Jitter but maybe there is a = simple readymade tool for this?
that I could plug into my Bidule? in = Windows? I couldn't find anything
strangely enough. Am I the first to = imagine such a = tool?

-Michael


= --Boundary_(ID_lGW/BJDX8ARWkTjFhca0tw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 21:36:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36EDA18345D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SlPlSXieIpb3JLrwA9q0v1fXgmBPTVs3nk+mGaiLrSo=; b=C0HicRrkjDmjlslvhgCkwhch7uNKBrJ14tmf+RjWgddidEgT5HVa6rX82eH2X3tlI7 vV/1M077jg0kzhBMLdlPie9HGPniKf6PiOqMNObOWUoL/OEascjzAHvYMkoNEiIenks9 Q4yZszumM2axWiKaw/0N6NkPR4PO4rdWWbxms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KpqNB6666yfV9Prh9ZslfXT2+iy58faJLK9NQzO8UIz8W+NCRRim6veZJD9BNkg4Jx vPQXs25DUkdczxdrB9l+3wIOHnZ/FWbxGwriBDbsoxJpyH36rrBwRqT432j6SMy65VGm BYkalm93FtZY5RsmO9LH43fysJ2Xt6YROspwc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:36:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: re recent Mobius thread From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a6b9b5d6e50499e95895 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:36:43 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a6b9b5d6e50499e95895 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All the recent Mobius dialogue inspired me to revisit the program and computer based looping. I did this piece last night which does yet make us= e of the scripting that caught my curiosity but just the fundamental multiple tracks for this outing. This piece of voices, plucked and bowed violin i did for this weekend's thread on ImprovFriday which I'd like to remind everyone to check out the breadth of work being done on this sister community. ImprovFriday is located at http://improvfriday.ning.com. My Mobius piece is Bird by Bird (Fly) China 1968 Thanks for the recent discussion on Mobius and thanks to Jeff for the gift of it and his creativity. Jim --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a6b9b5d6e50499e95895 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All the recent Mobius dialogue inspired me to revisit the program and compu= ter based looping. =A0I did this piece last night which does yet make use o= f the scripting that caught my curiosity but just the fundamental multiple = tracks for this outing. =A0This piece of voices, plucked and bowed violin i= did for this weekend's thread on ImprovFriday which I'd like to re= mind everyone to check out the breadth of work being done on this sister co= mmunity. =A0ImprovFriday is located at=A0http://improvfriday.ning.com.

My Mobius piece is=A0Bird by Bird = (Fly) China 1968

Thanks for the recent = discussion on Mobius and thanks to Jeff for the gift of it and his creativi= ty.

Jim
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From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new W= orld/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
= from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn= .bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a6b9b5d6e50499e95895-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 22:13:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26C7518345B; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5130e074-30f7-4957-ac46-be6ef47da7f8_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.36.154] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: midi visualizer vst? Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:13:19 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4C4F90D9668A436A8D3ADD927836C2F6@mpeserver> References: <4C4F90D9668A436A8D3ADD927836C2F6@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2011 22:13:19.0277 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A462DD0:01CBB501] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:13:20 +0000 (UTC) --_5130e074-30f7-4957-ac46-be6ef47da7f8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Resolume" vj software allows midi control of many functions. I'm sure ther= e are other vj progs that do it too. G > From: mp@mpeters.de > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: midi visualizer vst? > Date: Sat=2C 15 Jan 2011 21:44:16 +0100 >=20 > today I thought it would be very cool if I could dynamically visualize my > own live music=2C but not with one of the many available audio based > visualizers (like in Winamp) but midi controlled - e.g. by playing my > midified guitar. I thought with midi I could have a much more precise and > definable control over all parameters. I guess this can all be easily don= e > with Max and Jitter but maybe there is a simple readymade tool for this? > that I could plug into my Bidule? in Windows? I couldn't find anything > strangely enough. Am I the first to imagine such a tool? >=20 > -Michael >=20 = --_5130e074-30f7-4957-ac46-be6ef47da7f8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Resolume" vj software allows midi control of many functions. I'm sure ther= e are other vj progs that do it too.

G

>=3B From: mp@mpeter= s.de
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: m= idi visualizer vst?
>=3B Date: Sat=2C 15 Jan 2011 21:44:16 +0100
&g= t=3B
>=3B today I thought it would be very cool if I could dynamicall= y visualize my
>=3B own live music=2C but not with one of the many ava= ilable audio based
>=3B visualizers (like in Winamp) but midi controll= ed - e.g. by playing my
>=3B midified guitar. I thought with midi I co= uld have a much more precise and
>=3B definable control over all param= eters. I guess this can all be easily done
>=3B with Max and Jitter bu= t maybe there is a simple readymade tool for this?
>=3B that I could p= lug into my Bidule? in Windows? I couldn't find anything
>=3B strangel= y enough. Am I the first to imagine such a tool?
>=3B
>=3B -Mich= ael
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= --_5130e074-30f7-4957-ac46-be6ef47da7f8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 22:26:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FE4018345D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_90-9XNP4LIA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=h-wHvwACAAAA:8 a=zWSFQDO9AAAA:8 a=wEzzVP2b6giXEAuOUFoA:9 a=ZvKaDu72uBLEUvqhTJAA:7 a=r1M9-o9iaNO3KSc_eRcwG4GYbBwA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=YTTCQ6faurcA:10 a=84tsCWNHjc4A:10 a=YUdTp6wg-R6jF8z3:21 a=3O9j30F5rhhsaeP6:21 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 14:26:05 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:26:21 +0000 (UTC) While I can appreciate how the rumored onboard looper on this thing might be of general interest to the LD list. Has anyone considered how cool it is to have the equivalent of 2 synth engines, a VG hex COSM engine, and complete processing for regular magnetic pickups all in one box? As someone who actually uses a VG99, plus a GR synth, plus processes the bejeezus out of his guitars magnetic pickups too...and then sends them all to MaxMSP in a laptop this is very intriguing. If they don't short to user on other features or editability it could be an answered prayer for guys like me (who want to have it all). Hmmmmm... On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Just found this video which kind explains why only 20 sec is regarded > enough by Roland. Notice there's a lot more playing and recording than > actual looping happening here; they totally lack a vision of a looper > being used as a creative instrument! But one can still plug in a GK-3 > dressed guitar and cable the GR-55's output into a real looper. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz9oA-YX9Cg&feature=related > > Per > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Per Boysen > wrote: >> In this video upload Rob Marcello says "you can overdub as much as >> you >> like into those 20 sec"! >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQfeDnat_oE&feature=related >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> >> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Warren Sirota >> wrote: >>> geez, memory is so cheap. just 20 secs? why, why, why? >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Gareth Whittock >> > >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Cool little soundbyte per! >>>> ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on >>>> it > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 22:39:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0FD118345D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=jUzwhZ6WMAd9J+Rj/S263Kq7ZeFGPRkUrYbA4q+SbubillYnJRbVfDw/lhrScnUISMnpbEGlibtfSGZDiLNyyVY9JNJ5Jba+lg3hyYiilKpQn4VLmdxhe5G87Kk70wMqSLOD1PxpA1w1/8HaFGpyx7UBXcDS77FNSeDOqtaRA8A= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1295131172; bh=BOPtlLRI+jACzKAntVtx2866Rdtc4fsSCdzPiSTYtsM=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=6E3ndOLUgJ3ujXCqCcinSWOxLrTGt5aO1ik+wbiGpdohdL+3qf8rWepmjW+wHNLf0do/F0R06O3Q4CNJWKtD65NT2npcOBpfKE9AiWRdaueVW60Hi1wY4YcZ9o0wjyw7tgl3Zeq4CVbRxNcJ2Kqv9OqcYemlxwsbpNwCClQHFRA= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4744BV2swBCkM3UOjz04WGbz6AsNdMXlCg-- X-YMail-OSG: OFokNwYVM1lHqphCAR58tNNISvyXMV6lv83Jfs0ZZTNpL0A .fSERxttezyMFQozK4IfOuIQAe.BjOQm5uOJdr5EUS8dK2Y7lCCMhDf1TG.L OuZqPG3uvB0sl5nKE4lTaPd27GtW0x4ASOho11VffKrGB5fpBMEKHocEyBvV JAmqBGFh_ao_mEO1Ng44I8YzP4TBkrU_ghrKEVIBfwQYyv3PxOeLURKdoHaA jHBM2I0Dv35qgtOB.N4IHiiksCsTGFkCM8_MsTH1cIke7yJi0EuNQTf4x_XH qZUk_Y50OYq8jeqC9 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <4C4F90D9668A436A8D3ADD927836C2F6@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2263BDA8-BDF1-4761-BBE7-5055AD309EF3@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_8343496_AN9SimIAAF6lTTIcBw5vijilx7Y Subject: Re: midi visualizer vst? Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:39:17 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: <8hv0gC.A.xwD.mIiMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Any mac apps?=20 Antony Sent from my iPhone On 2011-01-15, at 23:13, Gareth Whittock wrote: > "Resolume" vj software allows midi control of many functions. I'm sure the= re are other vj progs that do it too. >=20 > G >=20 > > From: mp@mpeters.de > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: midi visualizer vst? > > Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:44:16 +0100 > >=20 > > today I thought it would be very cool if I could dynamically visualize m= y > > own live music, but not with one of the many available audio based > > visualizers (like in Winamp) but midi controlled - e.g. by playing my > > midified guitar. I thought with midi I could have a much more precise an= d > > definable control over all parameters. I guess this can all be easily do= ne > > with Max and Jitter but maybe there is a simple readymade tool for this?= > > that I could plug into my Bidule? in Windows? I couldn't find anything > > strangely enough. Am I the first to imagine such a tool? > >=20 > > -Michael > >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 22:39:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4720E18345F; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:39:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H6HVWzdskUGwXRsrGgOg1F/9/Gdn3TgO+KCza5Ti8Zg=; b=REUWReU6onkN0UikCeY2Om/TeOVWx4QBGj3Js0UbJ2soJJZQp2xDkSaEouZo/71+aQ nWuIZVRRnWoNAbDT4wU8zaQI2RT54ACsYC+SpwZYyvaIn2UJNREk0jIGodKbifcGYBtv kM1ED31OrW/iPeMBGLmBB2vOXv4A5yafOa+XI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DNj7dK1K7L4D30hL4HET6F2WPAQIbu8IQeBsyMR/Vo3R3NI1o5KwSy7EQI/HHkq6Sd +lyPYXMkLBvrIH/krlxNQSMR+BptEWzMQH3unK2ETzh1F4h8FQohuO1tBVLGf9TdsgZ9 yeoK9zNhxlbdPz+ZaUCkVDrPPRri7cp8JZfuI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:39:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:39:45 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:26 PM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrote: > While I can appreciate how the rumored onboard looper on this thing might= be > of general interest to the LD list. > > Has anyone considered how cool it is to have the equivalent of 2 synth > engines, a VG hex COSM engine, and complete processing for regular magnet= ic > pickups all in one box? Certainly! I'd take two for the Stick :-) It feels like this is the ultimate argument for finally getting a GK-3! Can't wait to read/see some more critical and in-depth test reviews/videos of the GR-55. I think Steve Stevens demo on YouTube shows off the synth sounds more than the ones I recently posted. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 15 23:18:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6107D18345D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtkJAKq6MU1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACCPZQVhheIALMfigCFUASEcIlT X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,328,1291593600"; d="scan'208,217";a="94149543" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <180907.85432.qm@web29712.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-254--1001097156 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Any new delay pedals? (NAMM) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:21:22 -0600 References: <180907.85432.qm@web29712.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <4vhEk.A.ZRF.etiMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:18:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-254--1001097156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check this one out (from Strymon). Looks bad ass to me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oExoFDgp8vo --Apple-Mail-254--1001097156 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check this one out (from Strymon). Looks bad ass to me:

--Apple-Mail-254--1001097156-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 00:29:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C931E18345D; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=9wRZv/3Q1HPou5vkhaDGhqyAFHiA8zpRTxvGp+wJ28A=; b=w4B20xfrjwSUlSIuZxhrDxnw/jUmOkOXsslKDykeem24wnGJD/qSKwE6GZNon0obHO PdmasUs/wtnb2Lr7jupdRY0T2m8scbhlpMuh/JVfL0WDJ/rgLNFi6ntK27WDEbS7L8hw A1tvqVfTUbfEVLmq51rZZuhSauj5sBeRZPCuA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=EumfX1SIt8ttF0WGrNUNw5UXxrqsRdQ/fnD8WmGWZEGwZTp5TrWzPtEeyiEelzPa9c USoq+LXvWdN0NSPdgJu8svIhmHTPb2ZlUqV/Pg46kLcMc2nDYKmDIW3GJNNlqwyNP+iL zK59mLmXwdqrQp9QHLAu47jBsukZUHN9OGEIY= References: <4C4F90D9668A436A8D3ADD927836C2F6@mpeserver> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <4C4F90D9668A436A8D3ADD927836C2F6@mpeserver> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:30:30 +0100 Message-ID: <-4728713118787293080@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: midi visualizer vst? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:29:51 +0000 (UTC) There are many many VJ programs you could try... I had some luck with ImX... But I've never come across a midi plug n ply visualiser ... No! M Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 15 Jan 2011, at 21:44, "Michael Peters" wrote: > today I thought it would be very cool if I could dynamically visualize my > own live music, but not with one of the many available audio based > visualizers (like in Winamp) but midi controlled - e.g. by playing my > midified guitar. I thought with midi I could have a much more precise and > definable control over all parameters. I guess this can all be easily done > with Max and Jitter but maybe there is a simple readymade tool for this? > that I could plug into my Bidule? in Windows? I couldn't find anything > strangely enough. Am I the first to imagine such a tool? > > -Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 00:43:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78A7918345E; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MDRozk6BYUTYhbTEiL8RBMSj3C9BdPXSyHHAQtaEB1k=; b=Aodz0xO2wWqJyCH47kWzjJYyUq+8OptgXVKpVTrY8+5d8jpTcN5iyY6uLZW5aYk/GL CDPdMhcevOG0QTiqXYVePF0oaifG5xMhTOjqd5Q7TmI9HxOX8awqjG+8SiEIH2swxzPT /+HGeMt/EUjmddphZzXlUF8By+UWpK7xNdfos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Aq9v81aFoQm0+iTw4TulRvrQXOlHGTjb/oi66wKd8r2ZBhtsmB9FWIhl7/xT+8Oi8i OcE6/BuF5cTCyjGq80QeY1yCzgsQoRtVYJ6nhjlqsszyGSQs3gCNZE/q4sWJ8g/X0gx0 ys/h2YYdr99GkHhjUGtat/54Nn+2jhUr12oH8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <-4728713118787293080@unknownmsgid> References: <4C4F90D9668A436A8D3ADD927836C2F6@mpeserver> <-4728713118787293080@unknownmsgid> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:43:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi visualizer vst? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <3om4p.A.UG.F9jMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:43:50 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:30 AM, mark francombe wrote: > There are many many VJ programs you could try... I had some luck with > ImX... But I've never come across a midi plug n ply visualiser ... No! Seconded! "ImX" was the general answer I got when I asking around among MIDI live video performers at a festival what software they were using. I downloaded it but found no way to run it on the same Mac as my audio stuff. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 04:04:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1DF918345C; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) thread-index: Acu1MnkEdB00D2mIQve2JXVdjN5G/A== Message-ID: <805EEC6D-C334-4993-88CD-B51ABE200A35@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:04:16 -0800 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2011 04:04:29.0715 (UTC) FILETIME=[793BDE30:01CBB532] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:04:32 +0000 (UTC) SSBwbGF5ZWQgd2l0aCB0aGUgZ3I1NSBhdCBuYW1tLCBndWl0YXIgcGFydCB3YXMgY29vbCwgaGFk IG5ldmVyIHBsYXllZCBvbmUgYmVmb3JlLiBUaGUgbG9vcGVyIHdhcyB2ZXJ5IHNpbXBsZSwgYWJv dXQgbGlrZSB0aGUgb2xkIGJvc3MgcGVkYWwsIHRoZSBsb29wZXIgY29udHJvbCBpcyBvbiB0aGUg cGVkYWxib2FyZC4gDQoNCkFuZHkgT3dlbnMNCjEtODAwLUFuZHlPd2Vucw0KU2VudCBmcm9tIG15 IGlQaG9uZQ0KU28gdGhlIHR5cGluZyBtaWdodCBub3QgYmUgbXkgYmVzdCENCg0KDQpPbiBKYW4g MTUsIDIwMTEsIGF0IDI6MzkgUE0sIFBlciBCb3lzZW4gPHBlcmJveXNlbkBnbWFpbC5jb20+IHdy b3RlOg0KDQo+IE9uIFNhdCwgSmFuIDE1LCAyMDExIGF0IDExOjI2IFBNLCB0RWQgwq4gS2lMTGlB biA8dGVka2lsbGlhbkBjaGFydGVyLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6DQo+PiBXaGlsZSBJIGNhbiBhcHByZWNp YXRlIGhvdyB0aGUgcnVtb3JlZCBvbmJvYXJkIGxvb3BlciBvbiB0aGlzIHRoaW5nIG1pZ2h0IGJl DQo+PiBvZiBnZW5lcmFsIGludGVyZXN0IHRvIHRoZSBMRCBsaXN0Lg0KPj4gDQo+PiBIYXMgYW55 b25lIGNvbnNpZGVyZWQgaG93IGNvb2wgaXQgaXMgdG8gaGF2ZSB0aGUgZXF1aXZhbGVudCBvZiAy IHN5bnRoDQo+PiBlbmdpbmVzLCBhIFZHIGhleCBDT1NNIGVuZ2luZSwgYW5kIGNvbXBsZXRlIHBy b2Nlc3NpbmcgZm9yIHJlZ3VsYXIgbWFnbmV0aWMNCj4+IHBpY2t1cHMgYWxsIGluIG9uZSBib3g/ DQo+IA0KPiBDZXJ0YWlubHkhIEknZCB0YWtlIHR3byBmb3IgdGhlIFN0aWNrIDotKQ0KPiBJdCBm ZWVscyBsaWtlIHRoaXMgaXMgdGhlIHVsdGltYXRlIGFyZ3VtZW50IGZvciBmaW5hbGx5IGdldHRp bmcgYSBHSy0zIQ0KPiBDYW4ndCB3YWl0IHRvIHJlYWQvc2VlIHNvbWUgbW9yZSBjcml0aWNhbCBh bmQgaW4tZGVwdGggdGVzdA0KPiByZXZpZXdzL3ZpZGVvcyBvZiB0aGUgR1ItNTUuIEkgdGhpbmsg U3RldmUgU3RldmVucyBkZW1vIG9uIFlvdVR1YmUNCj4gc2hvd3Mgb2ZmIHRoZSBzeW50aCBzb3Vu ZHMgbW9yZSB0aGFuIHRoZSBvbmVzIEkgcmVjZW50bHkgcG9zdGVkLg0KPiANCj4gUGVyDQo+IA0K From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 04:15:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A04E183459; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: midi visualizer vst? References: <4C4F90D9668A436A8D3ADD927836C2F6@mpeserver> <2263BDA8-BDF1-4761-BBE7-5055AD309EF3@yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-2--983455480"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <2263BDA8-BDF1-4761-BBE7-5055AD309EF3@yahoo.com> thread-topic: midi visualizer vst? thread-index: Acu1NAclboY1KxzUT26wWMi6EDV+ZA== Message-ID: <0D955606-FE6B-4F8A-84B7-B2FFCF3FDAA4@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:15:24 -0800 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2011 04:15:37.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[07506FF0:01CBB534] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:15:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--983455480 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At Namm, by far the cookest ipad application was the omnisphere program by s= pectrasonics. It is the coolest synth I have ever heard. The setup is with t= wo ipads and the control mechanism is unlike any other instrument ever. Unre= al!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 15, 2011, at 2:39 PM, "Antony Hequet" wrote:= > Any mac apps? > Antony >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On 2011-01-15, at 23:13, Gareth Whittock wrote:= >=20 > > "Resolume" vj software allows midi control of many functions. I'm sure t= here are other vj progs that do it too. > > > > G > > > > > From: mp@mpeters.de > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Subject: midi visualizer vst? > > > Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:44:16 +0100 > > > > > > today I thought it would be very cool if I could dynamically visualize= my > > > own live music, but not with one of the many available audio based > > > visualizers (like in Winamp) but midi controlled - e.g. by playing my > > > midified guitar. I thought with midi I could have a much more precise a= nd > > > definable control over all parameters. I guess this can all be easily d= one > > > with Max and Jitter but maybe there is a simple readymade tool for thi= s? > > > that I could plug into my Bidule? in Windows? I couldn't find anything= > > > strangely enough. Am I the first to imagine such a tool? > > > > > > -Michael > > > >=20 --Apple-Mail-2--983455480 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
At Namm, by far the cookest ipad application was the omnisphere program by spectrasonics. It is the coolest synth I have ever heard. The setup is with two ipads and the control mechanism is unlike any other instrument ever. Unreal!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 15, 2011, at 2:39 PM, "Antony Hequet" <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:

Any mac apps?
Antony

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-01-15, at 23:13, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:

> "Resolume" vj software allows midi control of many functions. I'm sure there are other vj progs that do it too.
>
> G
>
> > From: mp@mpeters.de
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: midi visualizer vst?
> > Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:44:16 +0100
> >
> > today I thought it would be very cool if I could dynamically visualize my
> > own live music, but not with one of the many available audio based
> > visualizers (like in Winamp) but midi controlled - e.g. by playing my
> > midified guitar. I thought with midi I could have a much more precise and
> > definable control over all parameters. I guess this can all be easily done
> > with Max and Jitter but maybe there is a simple readymade tool for this?
> > that I could plug into my Bidule? in Windows? I couldn't find anything
> > strangely enough. Am I the first to imagine such a tool?
> >
> > -Michael
> >

--Apple-Mail-2--983455480-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 04:19:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9F6D18345D; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=C+IEWNWZnlZV5UFvr1nyGH2ADwwSLvsded81+T4WWmw=; b=QL/wRn0dAV1T5DapUqla2WXfKpFouGB9eM8YnohDUfGy268/AocADQLBlCzFwekY/k VD712mCsx+fRJFil4cHwgCJgS713ws1DfIHkbID/3ydfB/i5x/xHMlmTv0uBtJAG9QcF 5btGNrHKpukgpU+ypd/rYrnJFEj3XxlYaSxyM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MSCJmKQvGgiLMA6PY+1svwWvnlkOhuTWJFUNXNyme8EwoYmGjhDFctDOSrsqu12PhD u9P1ko5c7/UTHQFUkg2aKDnzh++M6JH+IfNBXRh4GSIMhargaGEzqh7orXYTGKVLOaTH +zqnlhbzLLfEMSIH7StUNEPzanz1zfUc81+XE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:19:53 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _tsvAWRPV6WyqDHJ8xii-rChBdA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d77d9bae98280499eefaeb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:19:56 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d77d9bae98280499eefaeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable point well made, Ted. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:26 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > While I can appreciate how the rumored onboard looper on this thing might > be of general interest to the LD list. > > Has anyone considered how cool it is to have the equivalent of 2 synth > engines, a VG hex COSM engine, and complete processing for regular magnet= ic > pickups all in one box? > > As someone who actually uses a VG99, plus a GR synth, plus processes the > bejeezus out of his guitars magnetic pickups too...and then sends them al= l > to MaxMSP in a laptop this is very intriguing. > > If they don't short to user on other features or editability it could be = an > answered prayer for guys like me (who want to have it all). > > Hmmmmm... > > > > On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Just found this video which kind explains why only 20 sec is regarded >> enough by Roland. Notice there's a lot more playing and recording than >> actual looping happening here; they totally lack a vision of a looper >> being used as a creative instrument! But one can still plug in a GK-3 >> dressed guitar and cable the GR-55's output into a real looper. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dkz9oA-YX9Cg&feature=3Drelated >> >> Per >> >> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> In this video upload Rob Marcello says "you can overdub as much as you >>> like into those 20 sec"! >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBQfeDnat_oE&feature=3Drelated >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Warren Sirota >>> wrote: >>> >>>> geez, memory is so cheap. just 20 secs? why, why, why? >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Gareth Whittock < >>>> buddhamachine@live.co.uk> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cool little soundbyte per! >>>>> ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it >>>>> >>>> >> > --=20 Warren http://www.warrensirota.com Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --0016e6d77d9bae98280499eefaeb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable point well made, Ted.=A0

On Sat, Jan 15, = 2011 at 5:26 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
While I can appreciate how the rumored onboard looper on this thing might b= e of general interest to the LD list.

Has anyone considered how cool it is to have the equivalent of 2 synth engi= nes, a VG hex COSM engine, and complete processing for regular magnetic pic= kups all in one box?

As someone who actually uses a VG99, plus a GR synth, plus processes the be= jeezus out of his guitars magnetic pickups too...and then sends them all to= MaxMSP in a laptop this is very intriguing.

If they don't short to user on other features or editability it could b= e an answered prayer for guys like me (who want to have it all).

Hmmmmm...



On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

Just found this video which kind explains why only 20 sec is regarded
enough by Roland. Notice there's a lot more playing and recording than<= br> actual looping happening here; they totally lack a vision of a looper
being used as a creative instrument! But one can still plug in a GK-3
dressed guitar and cable the GR-55's output into a real looper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dkz9oA-YX9Cg&feat= ure=3Drelated

Per

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
In this video upload Rob Marcello says "you can overdub as much as you=
like into those 20 sec"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBQfeDnat_oE&feat= ure=3Drelated

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
geez, memory is so cheap. just 20 secs? why, why, why?

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:

Cool little soundbyte per!
ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it





--
Warren
<= a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrens= irota.com
Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warr= ensirota
--0016e6d77d9bae98280499eefaeb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 04:35:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A22218345B; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: LP2 at namm References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: LP2 at namm thread-index: Acu1Ns62rl19cIkdQ7yDT/4/DTCQMg== Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:35:15 -0800 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2011 04:35:32.0240 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF62A100:01CBB536] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:35:33 +0000 (UTC) I got to spend a little time at Bobs booth at namm and played a bit with the= LP2.=20 Nice and cool looking unit. You can sync them together or to an LP1. There a= re sixteen effects that you can use to manipulate the loop. Effects manipula= te the loop as it is including overdubs.=20 It worked fine, nice quiet buttons. Also got to hear Rick Walker use it with= much use of the effects, really cool!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:13 AM, "todd reynolds" wrote: > Much success to you Bob, and to Rick and Bill and all who are close and su= pporting the new product! =20 >=20 > Wish I could be there to try it out and have a go. (as I'm sure many of u= s wish) >=20 > Cheers,=20 >=20 > Todd >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 04:43:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6F4618345C; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:43:11 +0900 Subject: Re: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) Thread-Index: Acu1N+DTk2TMlgdoRn2KNlTSDCN6vQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:43:16 +0000 (UTC) On 1/16/11 7:26 AM, "tEd =AE KiLLiAn" wrote: >=20 > Has anyone considered how cool it is to have the equivalent of 2 synth > engines, a VG hex COSM engine, and complete processing for regular > magnetic pickups all in one box? As you can well imagine: yes... yes I have. ;) > If they don't short to user on other features or editability it could > be an answered prayer for guys like me (who want to have it all). I'm particularly curious to see how they handle some of the GR "pedal" modes, when applied to the COSM engine. For instance, I've used the sustai= n pedal on my GR-20 to realistically fake a Moog Guitar. It's just easier to punt and use the synth engine for that one. But what if you could do the same on the COSM models? Hrm, could be interesting. And what about the COSM Poly-Effects? Over on the VG list, we'd submitted some ideas for some new ones -- like Poly-Ringmod and Poly-Defretter -- tha= t would be useful, because they were making noises about a software update fo= r the VG-99. Roland took some of these suggestions and instead integrated them into the VB-99 (ack, jerks!). I wonder if any of those made it over into this model. Also, MAP for the GR-55 is set to only $699 ($799 w/ GK)!!! Wow! I'm completely broke until I get a new job. But this one's probably going on the Christmas list for next year. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 04:51:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEA59183476; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:51:33 -0800 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Price point? On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > I got to spend a little time at Bobs booth at namm and played a bit = with the LP2.=20 >=20 > Nice and cool looking unit. You can sync them together or to an LP1. = There are sixteen effects that you can use to manipulate the loop. = Effects manipulate the loop as it is including overdubs.=20 >=20 > It worked fine, nice quiet buttons. Also got to hear Rick Walker use = it with much use of the effects, really cool!!! >=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 06:57:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15A3818345D; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 06:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:57:46 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0C7586AE-CDAD-48EB-8128-6A6E2DD0BE14@grubmah.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 06:57:49 +0000 (UTC) It could certainly tempt me to see about getting the RMC pickups on my = Klein adapted for hex output instead of piezo output since I mostly use = my Taylor when I want a pseudo-acoustic sound. But that would require = finding someone to do the work since Lorenzo German has been out of the = business for a while. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 07:28:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4361518345F; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 07:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Backing tracks: A confession Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:28:34 -0800 Message-Id: To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 07:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Okay. I don't use pre-recorded loops. But I think I am coming to = appreciate why most of the loop pedals out there (the LP2 soon to be an = exception) are so feature limited. Once upon a time, I made have use of my EDP and played with feedback and = next loop and all the rest. Hey, it was there, it was easy to grab, it = was my first real looper in a long time. Fripp's Let the Power Fall had = given me a taste for the 5-10 second loop with the feedback control at = less than 100%. Etc. Then the EDPs drifted out of my rack. First to try to make room for an = LP1 and then because I was trying to go rackless and ended up using the = looper on the M13. Now I find myself fairly routinely recording a loop, closing it in = overdub mode purely to avoid cutting off the sound, maybe overdubbing a = bit more, and then showing a tendency to just let it play while I = improvise/noodle/whack-off (choose your description). And you know what? = I like working this way. The loop fills the sonic landscape in, but it = lets me concentrate on the guitar rather than on the loop. So, I've got the LP1 and it does all sorts of wonderful things and under = pressure from Bill I've even jury rigged myself a MIDI foot controller = (I now have a very confused EDP). What do I do? I record static loops = and let them play. Maybe I throw them into reverse of half-speed. Maybe = I turn on scramble. And I generally set up multiple loops often of = different lengths. But after getting a few loops going and mixed, it all = just becomes backing tracks. When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do I stop = getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;-) Or in the quest for a rackless system, maybe what I need is a simple = looper or two to do the backing tracks thing and a long delay line with = feedback and a way to mute the input to do the Frippertronics-style = thing. The only issue is that I'd like the latter to be syncable to the = former so that it doesn't all just become a mish-mash of unsynced loops = -- though that can be fun in its own right. The LP2 might actually be a = great choice here given support for things like quantized replace, but = last I knew it wasn't stereo friendly the way even the DL4 is (although = it's a mono looper) which means I'm back to worrying about needing = mixing/routine support and the benefits of shedding the rack may start = to fade. So, it's probably stick with the rack, look for a real MIDI foot = controller solution, and try to better exploit the LP1. I've got visions of an LP1 and my Korg AM8000R shoved inside something = like the M13 with a really tuned performance model and control set, but = that isn't going to happen and given the confession above, I have to ask = whether I would really exploit it. But I'd certainly plunk down the = money for it within reason... Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 10:43:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDD1A18345B; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ko+JUytReNvkKl3BAsoLG+knJqbPWf3JXd/Fi60BM18=; b=CRUb3gRAG/uWFQxueInO/mYx/jAer3UO1+pbKMJL6gsrCESJ4bVFKFIQNb+rG5rYGf e86WEJGf6fTT+j9fn0ZmdghLXVduSIt1gG8BiVCTjREdpLrEHFT/+cmkMQSC0J4/ojL4 vnHoGICldNwz86aRXRIqaM6YkYyXtQsJvLQ6o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uoiW+JLYQNVEPWE7s0FLwEForQd99m3/1RHAqeYM3SO7RqqWw/YFpOOBTAEzczRxxb aOkxZC3oRKobz/OH34ToUsOrqPr0Osh4UDsZy2mlRqedxFW11iVJdkL1GHSW08qGIfkK VxbMYCp4PO7mUvrwsK/zKWHIkEFidKc3Vkfpo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <805EEC6D-C334-4993-88CD-B51ABE200A35@1800dialword.com> References: <805EEC6D-C334-4993-88CD-B51ABE200A35@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:43:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:43:14 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > I played with the gr55 at namm, guitar part was cool, had never played one before. The looper was very simple, about like the old boss pedal, the looper control is on the pedalboard. I wonder if you can lead in the guitar pickup outputs (two coming out a Stick) into the pedal to mix them with the Roland sounds, all going through the effects as well? Combined with the simple looper that would make a very compact and versatile performance setup (no laptop nor extra looper or effect pedals needed). Didn't see any note on Tap Tempo control, but I would guess that is possible? Quite essential for playing with a band. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 10:46:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEE1E183474; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j+fHVpnWizXk7FJkZhd0rg6hoOqaMvMC5XOfUxZipwo=; b=VB/Dnmj8lUHzREY2X0zpUnICmQF9vUKs7aSLqefhXzRI+lyymos9zPM3kHWvXtBYmk N0xfU1ZxpgBJ7YDfcESIJI4Qck6/aJbI1Bfppx2rH0p2vegQJ4E0oWaaCKbLVNl+/hY1 btfZaTlcB7yI0U7MfeAKfkOl+oMYHIVNR2Fx0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xceh5OTcooBz5GnAt11KeL9E5T8E2SlSkusgXazcQZIN9btPZX3mD7eIzEW6esAhIg Ym6cTABI4gxEh0T44JYSEr1EqD/bRyi09rq884hLAYeIbH5lje2de6y/fJYjPKGNVd7O Ja79rpBiO12jPlfcHzxP813IyeGwohHEha368= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:46:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Interresting! But are those "effects" really effects like in reverb, ring modulation, delay, phaser etc? Aren't they rather "looping actions sequences" presets? Per On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:35 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > I got to spend a little time at Bobs booth at namm and played a bit with = the LP2. > > Nice and cool looking unit. You can sync them together or to an LP1. Ther= e are sixteen effects that you can use to manipulate the loop. Effects mani= pulate the loop as it is including overdubs. > > It worked fine, nice quiet buttons. Also got to hear Rick Walker use it w= ith much use of the effects, really cool!!! > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:13 AM, "todd reynolds" wrote: > >> Much success to you Bob, and to Rick and Bill and all who are close and = supporting the new product! >> >> Wish I could be there to try it out and have a go. =C2=A0(as I'm sure ma= ny of us wish) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Todd >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 10:49:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EED06183477; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gEwfJ6q0RGrgaHU48S0aqG8aRSGgoj0BmV0qwjAqrSY=; b=AwE+YYEN9aKpExg+F2ZLUx+qg8TBCWyXttLnjpjlbHhzJbOlx4dln/DXPPAP5XPHuy yWA10NxB2dZ02oZqvhwTn+okEL1BXtF/bH2zzr/qtQ7BiZxUs8BXFNwVOC4SE6bMc+Hk i1X3LerfooU2hfsGMasRPhiyQyyxXqj8QZm9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=icCRL9Xjk35WQx5Da1pZ+FcET2S8bj8yPhbYb2yuzBYC12mJiQHehvRrxNxRNbmamw Eoi0AS1gQumS5yKGqfDNObzvaxwWtZfGPG7eIKFzPB6zwT1UBwncZQQHVMLOKtz+NHnc V1dsuHP6blsRbhwGoqaSQ9ply4eXFuoAYaXxY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:33:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:49:37 +0000 (UTC) And I can confess that the first public concert I did with "experimental electronics" in 1983 used tape recorders playing back prepared stuff behind mine and my buddy's live playing. And right now I'm preparing a backing track with "radiation noise" for the upcoming duo gig with Erdem in Paris. I think what matters is the experience you offer the audience! THAT is the artistry - not the technology or techniques you are using to achieve the communication. ("..in the eye of the beholder..." etc etc) Per On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Okay. I don't use pre-recorded loops. But I think I am coming to apprecia= te why most of the loop pedals out there (the LP2 soon to be an exception) = are so feature limited. > > Once upon a time, I made have use of my EDP and played with feedback and = next loop and all the rest. Hey, it was there, it was easy to grab, it was = my first real looper in a long time. Fripp's Let the Power Fall had given m= e a taste for the 5-10 second loop with the feedback control at less than 1= 00%. Etc. > > Then the EDPs drifted out of my rack. First to try to make room for an LP= 1 and then because I was trying to go rackless and ended up using the loope= r on the M13. > > Now I find myself fairly routinely recording a loop, closing it in overdu= b mode purely to avoid cutting off the sound, maybe overdubbing a bit more,= and then showing a tendency to just let it play while I improvise/noodle/w= hack-off (choose your description). And you know what? I like working this = way. The loop fills the sonic landscape in, but it lets me concentrate on t= he guitar rather than on the loop. > > So, I've got the LP1 and it does all sorts of wonderful things and under = pressure from Bill I've even jury rigged myself a MIDI foot controller (I n= ow have a very confused EDP). What do I do? I record static loops and let t= hem play. Maybe I throw them into reverse of half-speed. Maybe I turn on sc= ramble. And I generally set up multiple loops often of different lengths. B= ut after getting a few loops going and mixed, it all just becomes backing t= racks. > > When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do I stop = getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;-) > > Or in the quest for a rackless system, maybe what I need is a simple loop= er or two to do the backing tracks thing and a long delay line with feedbac= k and a way to mute the input to do the Frippertronics-style thing. The onl= y issue is that I'd like the latter to be syncable to the former so that it= doesn't all just become a mish-mash of unsynced loops -- though that can b= e fun in its own right. The LP2 might actually be a great choice here given= support for things like quantized replace, but last I knew it wasn't stere= o friendly the way even the DL4 is (although it's a mono looper) which mean= s I'm back to worrying about needing mixing/routine support and the benefit= s of shedding the rack may start to fade. > > So, it's probably stick with the rack, look for a real MIDI foot controll= er solution, and try to better exploit the LP1. > > I've got visions of an LP1 and my Korg AM8000R shoved inside something li= ke the M13 with a really tuned performance model and control set, but that = isn't going to happen and given the confession above, I have to ask whether= I would really exploit it. But I'd certainly plunk down the money for it w= ithin reason... > > Mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 11:10:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE023183466; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 566118288/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.222/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.222 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhICAJtgMk1YbRDe/2dsb2JhbAAMlkXLXIVQBI43 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,329,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="566118288" Message-ID: <4D32D20E.7090606@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:10:06 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6SdKeD.A.fiG.RItMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? Looper's Delight is for *anyone* who uses looped audio. Follow your own vision, and if that's guitar oriented rather than looper oriented I'm sure you still get any LP1 questions answered here. ...and yes, LP1 is first choice if you want to run a long delay synced to a static loop. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 11:57:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69842183477; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=298WMBDVB/FhnazDGhh8gJW0iOfBA1cJAzwO9Qpy6Ic=; b=vF0l1tELE2LpuGDB+80aJiiQIJoHL8v23YjGRgAWZF65EcTSeTEuMNBJ9QYJRxh1fZ Z5xA0eNgcFVjAPkqLf3Y73j5AajqujRLOCCREA8fa6Uf1XVQHU1Spm1WH9I32I1Cyoji 7AAo2j9zb6eB4LtCL9T6gUnthzDmYxrsbKduA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dce4bWj48GuWRKBzMPZCRbJwpR4ISpL8MISJQZ3/GcLACwcX8Nf/ffctFC/2bAt75O laoZPHczAPMdxi0xqMmnQIc1oRtnzHbUgx8A8BmlqlC4gR48cMbZQfkLRsGrFOn52yR1 ftxbyVRQRjeCAf+EXwfjmQnSpca9RofvDY5Ew= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:57:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <56-KpC.A.IX.c0tMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:57:17 +0000 (UTC) i did the last Y2K10 show with 2 M9s,no midi controllers,laptops or EDPs,it felt quite good;-) cheers Luis On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Okay. I don't use pre-recorded loops. But I think I am coming to apprecia= te why most of the loop pedals out there (the LP2 soon to be an exception) = are so feature limited. > > Once upon a time, I made have use of my EDP and played with feedback and = next loop and all the rest. Hey, it was there, it was easy to grab, it was = my first real looper in a long time. Fripp's Let the Power Fall had given m= e a taste for the 5-10 second loop with the feedback control at less than 1= 00%. Etc. > > Then the EDPs drifted out of my rack. First to try to make room for an LP= 1 and then because I was trying to go rackless and ended up using the loope= r on the M13. > > Now I find myself fairly routinely recording a loop, closing it in overdu= b mode purely to avoid cutting off the sound, maybe overdubbing a bit more,= and then showing a tendency to just let it play while I improvise/noodle/w= hack-off (choose your description). And you know what? I like working this = way. The loop fills the sonic landscape in, but it lets me concentrate on t= he guitar rather than on the loop. > > So, I've got the LP1 and it does all sorts of wonderful things and under = pressure from Bill I've even jury rigged myself a MIDI foot controller (I n= ow have a very confused EDP). What do I do? I record static loops and let t= hem play. Maybe I throw them into reverse of half-speed. Maybe I turn on sc= ramble. And I generally set up multiple loops often of different lengths. B= ut after getting a few loops going and mixed, it all just becomes backing t= racks. > > When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do I stop = getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;-) > > Or in the quest for a rackless system, maybe what I need is a simple loop= er or two to do the backing tracks thing and a long delay line with feedbac= k and a way to mute the input to do the Frippertronics-style thing. The onl= y issue is that I'd like the latter to be syncable to the former so that it= doesn't all just become a mish-mash of unsynced loops -- though that can b= e fun in its own right. The LP2 might actually be a great choice here given= support for things like quantized replace, but last I knew it wasn't stere= o friendly the way even the DL4 is (although it's a mono looper) which mean= s I'm back to worrying about needing mixing/routine support and the benefit= s of shedding the rack may start to fade. > > So, it's probably stick with the rack, look for a real MIDI foot controll= er solution, and try to better exploit the LP1. > > I've got visions of an LP1 and my Korg AM8000R shoved inside something li= ke the M13 with a really tuned performance model and control set, but that = isn't going to happen and given the confession above, I have to ask whether= I would really exploit it. But I'd certainly plunk down the money for it w= ithin reason... > > Mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 12:13:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A10DB18347B; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7iGsTPFcmZNhm4977PEvgRwwLrIG+zS1eYPNCVkwutw=; b=sj3L7edPoe9kJuZiZ4Hn+v7/OyNq6b2PpJWeOywWDiPEfJOpBt2s7WmH664rsh5kEt bsioeYilgJORaP9hHG5B5Px/Z12EnLH7Kwuk/7e4cHgYZStyYRfL0WvaodTUWdRHSFF/ ra6/DTt/I7v0sK/bsal0cGFSUV0E5hbRNeBj4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uRONoSaQKOp0Pbk3G0mWK9GlsZTV7nx7iswhmUDv1ucbnqRri2w2LmqWwKAAU2qVkn 3pxV/xwKGQQOJm80nkKPymtC9qW3QrXZ420hsrl0kw4ZxCr+RgG2T2RXN/n9BnEoC5Og 4l5B5qO7iFsUfJ29qMpoK4RghVsJflf5rzWE0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0C7586AE-CDAD-48EB-8128-6A6E2DD0BE14@grubmah.com> References: <0C7586AE-CDAD-48EB-8128-6A6E2DD0BE14@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:13:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:13:24 +0000 (UTC) you could also get one of these and put a GK pickup,then you have the best of all planets (well almost a sustainer system would be nice) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvVmoBbNcpQI Luis On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > It could certainly tempt me to see about getting the RMC pickups on my Kl= ein adapted for hex output instead of piezo output since I mostly use my Ta= ylor when I want a pseudo-acoustic sound. But that would require finding so= meone to do the work since Lorenzo German has been out of the business for = a while. > > Mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 12:19:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 900D218347E; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:19:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b8bHCfaOOwGGhe2SeyNjGMMTJQoU04ZL87moEZn+L/o=; b=EkUMIwGp1Huv7ClbeEfkJPsu9sxAxKnhX3C+LGJv/stjWOzvCKuDdPJ40lV17kkW3T 22pCW9wDX1/03d/ptD+CO7XRdiyppodE2MNKrpCINK8pRybewLzzGRgOFiuB5gNR3pee GsPKyNs81zraWtNw0gG14mKJV172BPi+jCd8U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WcCCBn9+vfV2Db1VMo5hx1fooipKISQpObOl6W4eya11tM6GJL9DzkYgJLA68M/5x9 LbN3E9UpA2OVms2Z8wQPPNyWGnH1WgT/ITmKhPLNc61QvdTP9N27j3p6IAb4VRzufmgl uqt0RqVzNuJ31HIu4/sNdiZttbInSgj6PvBLc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:19:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new gear i've seen vids of: boss rc3/rc30/vox thing/tc electronics flashback delay.....looper as instrument vs storage From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-0tG-D.A.XDB.DJuMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:19:16 +0000 (UTC) hey Scott i hear you,is just marketing to keep buying all this shit,they probably already got loopers planed for years to come with all of that sutff we want but will give them to us eventually in dosis they dont want us to o.d.like hendrix did cheers Luis On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Scott Hansen wrote: > i have watched the vids of some of the new gear that has come out (i gues= s > this is b/c of namm). > the boss ones: rc3/30--ok, it seems boss has gone the "we need more stora= ge > time", so they put it up to 3 hr internal memory. > it looks to me like they've lost the REVERSE function. which is what i lo= ved > most in my old rc20 (original 5 min version). > i understand who this is marketed to, singer/songwriters who do the howie > day thing i guess. and that's fine, or i guess we all > need to become the one man band thing, that's ok too. > the vids looked like cheezy crap to me. i would much rather see an actual > looper F***ING play the thing, put it in front of david torn/andre > lafosse/nels cline/etc > and video tape them, see what they say.....(i know this thing isn't marke= ted > to me, they're looking for youngsters who would be wow'ed by this i know) > i guess it just comes down to this for me on the boss ones: it's storage, > you can't really manipulate the loop at all-change length, pitch up down > make it sound > weird. i mean don't they realize that DJs a lot of times take samples and > make them sound all WEIRD. ug. oh well. i 'm old and cranky (and sick sti= ll, > ha). > i do like the pitch down function, but hate that it's an "effect". WHY NO= T > PUT A F***ING KNOB ON THE THING SO THE USER CAN CONTROLL IT. > i hope that this drives the price of the original rc20 down to pennies, i > may get another one of them. > > the vox looper looks promising from the vid. looks like it has lots of > options... > the vids of the tc electronics flashback delay look good, has 40 sec loop= er > also. i know i've heard complaints that it doesn't have wet/dry mix. whic= h > is a function i like (as does e. aarset!). although it looks like their > version of the boss dd7 or digitech dl8, which is ok. > > i guess in the end watching these, it reminds me of the post from a few d= ays > ago, is your looper an "instrument" or "a storage device". > i like it to be=A0an instrument. when i looped on my old dod d12, i would > usually set up a 6 sec delay, play some of my bad crap, but then i';d > usually spin the giant time wheel either up or down and stretch the 6 sec= to > 12 sec, then down all the way to 1 sec to make it sound all crazy and f'd > up. i loved that (and hence my wait for the ULTIMATE DELAY BASED LOOPER!!= !), > i really felt like i played it more than my guitar. and i have almost the > same feeling w/ my EH 16 ddl-ri, love the up and down pitching and revers= e > option. > i mean, come on people, this thing came out in the early 80s and no one c= an > still make a device that can do what it does (see Nels Cline and what he > does w/ it of course). it's inspiring stuff. oh well, end of my rant.... = i'm > old , i'm sick....i think i need to go listen to some more happy hip-hop > stuff now.... > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 12:30:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9C3118347E; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:29:51 +0900 Subject: Re: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Roland GR-55 guitar synth (Re: klobucharian idyll) Thread-Index: Acu1eRIgG4kKrpb8T9SqC5vAfo26QQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:30:02 +0000 (UTC) On 1/16/11 7:43 PM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Andy Owens wrote: >> I played with the gr55 at namm, guitar part was cool, had never played one >> before. The looper was very simple, about like the old boss pedal, the looper >> control is on the pedalboard. > > I wonder if you can lead in the guitar pickup outputs (two coming out > a Stick) into the pedal to mix them with the Roland sounds, all going > through the effects as well? Combined with the simple looper that > would make a very compact and versatile performance setup (no laptop > nor extra looper or effect pedals needed). You should be able to, I believe, no problem. Now, this is making the assumption that Roland is merely lifting one of the basic COSM instrument blocks from the VG-99 architecture (which may be a bit of a big assumption). However, each of those blocks has a parameter where you can dial in the 'Normal' guitar pickup to mix in with the COSM instrument sound. You can even dial it in 100% pickup, and 0% COSM, if you wish. This mix is then sent to the effect chain as a single audio feed. Now, where you might run into problems is if you want to have an effect on your Stick pickup, yet run a COSM sound with different effects on it. Since they're both on the same "block" it wouldn't be possible to separate them into different effect chains. Of course this wouldn't present much problem if they allow you to mix the normal pickup in on the two Synth instrument blocks as well (which should make sense, but Roland doesn't always make sense). You could then give up one of the three instrument blocks to dedicate to you pickup, if you absolutely had to have an effect chain on your Stick output and only on your Stick output. In any case, you should be able to run them into the Looper. FWIW, I'm betting they're implementing the same crappy phrase sampler algorithm that's on the DD-20 and Slicer, though, so don't expect much. It'll probably even be part of the delay effect block too, so you'll have to choose between a decent delay effect or the Looper. Just my prediction based upon what I've seen with the equipment I own, so as always, YMMV. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 14:22:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50A8218347F; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bLMr8cbyaCaep5Ja3jsWi7mAPkkGivvX20Qw7bQvtko=; b=IAW0eh5ilT5bUZ31i9NSY8c+l/4rDSEnqekSZTjSpfnqYDSuNRta9i0L3BPv3XETuF N0HppmKAf7dtC2bNcnxFgkbKcgDdrSYzo/SPw+oo01EXws1A29wP1e15RqAU08dPvqLq g+Km2w9Jiwc02yak7Gnou2N0OWzFB7EDySNXE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cBB5xfRMrI+9os2q0d8gDSbbrGxQwcy29F1eUg62mnEMDchXCi/blKTAMb+Jsitf40 hPKoMlUnE1Zubx1KwnIKyUfbSK5TN/uNV7PwSmb+idhipCqxU4P7i8sTVkWERGusJlx6 kNdOGXCHvpbVXrNxTv4B0JPh6gB+RLH8dfjdk= Message-ID: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:22:50 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Is the new Stalin African-American? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4s5QXD.A.YkF.18vMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:22:45 +0000 (UTC) http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/index.html (via @ilovetypography on twitter). Any of you had experiences similar to those described in this article about DHS/TSA proceedings when entering the US (both for US citizens and others)? Sad to say, but the way this looks, this may require us all either to never enter the US again - or to go back to hardware loopers... Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 14:41:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BCC3183484; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nvilfx8jcar80scx3WUEFFTLk2g5ZCsF9hix3vaabuo=; b=MsmQ6a+rQUdLb/9W53JqfZDlFQ8XOVFqrulO3k4Kt6CfBBgIiAl2YV0Wl/mxCK6/Ax i4+3kbD4o/naRT9hg5zy0pS0djyalTlmEoULjtWZoOUPOt17adTBPKCE9LdW0m3HI05Y 3tEbp8CzE5JRFpv5/g/7p1tSRXl8TEtVX6czw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AsUU6nJYu640iw+dheHg+5rCo/gBiob9wTurp0WW6tszbebmQz/kVQdddhwMsqat0e EA1C5zXXKvQ7duiyxJxQ2MlU6OVeQOCIh419hHo+VwjAK2ddSRvmadJ5HimYF7Jq0Xak MBWUhYyRASgKRXH3n4E6bKxP2Wx0xQE7WGqV4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:41:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:41:26 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/index.html > (via @ilovetypography on twitter). > > Any of you had experiences similar to those described in this article about > DHS/TSA proceedings when entering the US (both for US citizens and others)? > > Sad to say, but the way this looks, this may require us all either to never > enter the US again - or to go back to hardware loopers... Oh, that's bad. Quite horrifying reading, that article. Maybe in the future musicians like us can rent a laptop locally for a gig since the trend seem to be that applications will be stored "in the cloud" rather on the computer drive. I mean, with iLook licenses and in-the-cloud apps it may take less than an hour to set up a persons customized sophisticated live looping electronics system on any empty computer. I don't believer hardware can ever replace software for certain musical application. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 14:49:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E069C18347A; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date :to:x-mailer; bh=sEi4cM1JnEcpmB+R9NQrJYPOYI5DHgne4wppsKk9SXY=; b=wHb1dNdNoIIE9m9kNnN1v7GwySfL+r7amjI2qfcdUzfe7B+ikpKX4m5YNyfsHWIlmK 188CKtFqJ18Iga7BNhgXWa9FG+oTBTTjyvFduA9GfMtJb0prZT2YInD0LTVBEnlO0fE5 agFPBxRbDEUQPp92jJdrJauwNIyoVJCt/+IUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pIHZLhv3/aJJdEQd9y9X3HPhXYENnUg+9e5M49FogvfwqgOot+AwxxjqLALgmksUxE fPkRqmFzZB6BBnpM6OMztAVMhx7f0gvnS4vCSnxtJNASRi6UUsl9EEKGuqVzP4CqmrQ1 K2rcDQk6uorB0KUAUVXzeNXWKvKD2Ph7zr+L0= References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: doc rossi Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:48:45 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Damn... I'm leaving for the US on Friday. How bad is it, really?=20 On Jan 16, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > = http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/index= .html > (via @ilovetypography on twitter). >=20 > Any of you had experiences similar to those described in this article = about DHS/TSA proceedings when entering the US (both for US citizens and = others)? >=20 > Sad to say, but the way this looks, this may require us all either to = never enter the US again - or to go back to hardware loopers... >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 15:05:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 390C8183488; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8LF+kowzpbuLpfAPmCnZl6A8YDiPes9EVxBTGQZ7JxM=; b=P0JmzfJ4+FNKZfDi9hxTeUwHt1c3zFf5QWQHoZqG+AcP8CMx+cX5RHR/b+yli9P1HU M7FWwRydLkmmQucCQJUwBw4qRxFK//hgRFd0DWVw47WDZsKLrNGR8RtjEFOXQ5QsJ2Mv EO3v3iPaSiab9iie9wZpNOG5I1J6FpUFcCkKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BTvTYCYDMVfuGW13AK5PkGzB0hVpoy1+nGlI0S4bL0GABJ1MvX402HWQDjM9/ECI2D a7NQrQeoyG2XlBIJapxmKFk8doQmsNLTLDXX05qqIb3sO6GHZWQu+X60JUn7AvCm6atL 1cLpTA5My0+3r1A0baIZLXE3fkW2qXY9ekzmk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0815662B-3C4B-45DD-9618-0907470FF882@glasswing.com> References: <33575204.1414248.1295016922155.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CD822A9E28C8F5-1570-12227@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> <40DA5E98-DB02-4FAC-8619-3DA0041E6CC3@1800dialword.com> <0815662B-3C4B-45DD-9618-0907470FF882@glasswing.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:05:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Proud and loud!! From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Andy did you captue any video of Zoe's performance, if so pleas post as well as anything else from NAMM. Thx. Jim On 1/15/11, richard sales wrote: > is anyone surprised? > > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > >> Zoe is kicking ass!!!! >> >> Andy Owens >> 1-800-AndyOwens >> Sent from my iPhone >> So the typing might not be my best! >> >> >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:07 AM, "Andy Owens" wrote: >> >>> Hey loopers be proud and loud, our Zoe playing the opening session >>> today!! >>> >>> Andy Owens >>> 1-800-AndyOwens >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> So the typing might not be my best! >>> >>> >>> On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:03 AM, "Andy Owens" wrote= : >>> >>>> Hey we are sittin here eatin bacon waitin for zoe >>>> >>>> Pics and blog on my website www.andyowens.com >>>> >>>> Andy Owens >>>> 1-800-AndyOwens >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> So the typing might not be my best! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Gareth Whittock >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cool little soundbyte per! >>>>> ps the new gr55 guitar synth looks like it has a 20 sec looper on it = - >>>>> looks interesting but God I hate those guitar synth demos... >>>>> >>>>> peace >>>>> >>>>> G >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:54:54 +0100 >>>>>> Subject: Re: klobucharian idyll >>>>>> From: perboysen@gmail.com >>>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Gareth Whittock >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I'm NOT sharing my kitchen or toilet with 100 people - have you eve= r >>>>>>> lived >>>>>>> in student accomodation?! ;-) >>>>>>> I can't help wondering what 100 loopers playing together would soun= d >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> though - "dense" might be the word! >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe like this 176 times overdubbed guitar solo I recorded? >>>>>> http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Guitar_Soli_Overdubbed_176_Times.mp3 >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's great to see all these new looping pedals coming out imo - soo= n >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> avante guarde will be joined by the throng.. >>>>>> >>>>>> A big Salute to both! >>>>>> >>>>>> Per >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 15:08:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C351B18348D; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sen8wyNiHSi9ONe5gRwemC1C8QDvAwIkK8ySbuFumjo=; b=W9jP9TIz6pRv0VOrnr8CYO+j22uDW7rlQH1cPRjkF0DJldITXQBY/nqXaZYEeJweNr u/lFVULQ3k2m/ntsMS96dcou4oCOTyqZwQKjx4/FpunX8t3CmS5UeXDMEyr+vSxdh0hR wC/iHhfyknbEzguetc82HVYy4mQfw6wnFKTnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xMU+WD7P3bmaZEZcujsV9cl4NNUHjtjX9mXDwTXBObHuF6w6MTdZ6jbD7x0+Erbo8f yELcsQXQTafOph+37ngP1gl90/AyuBo3Un3AJE2gQhE9yL0Jxivf87LN84LiYKJ0mgXt R4fyuDnBFi37X5yAwgLCorBNqR4FMV4dTH6Po= Message-ID: <4D330A14.6020709@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:09:08 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg schrieb: > Okay. I don't use pre-recorded loops. But I think I am coming to appreciate why most of the loop pedals out there (the LP2 soon to be an exception) are so feature limited. > [...] > So, I've got the LP1 and it does all sorts of wonderful things and under pressure from Bill I've even jury rigged myself a MIDI foot controller (I now have a very confused EDP). What do I do? I record static loops and let them play. Maybe I throw them into reverse of half-speed. Maybe I turn on scramble. And I generally set up multiple loops often of different lengths. But after getting a few loops going and mixed, it all just becomes backing tracks. > > When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do I stop getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;- Dear Mark, first of all, I believe there's no risk of your LD membership card getting pulled, or you no longer being invited to perform in Santa Cruz - simply because I remember having a very long conversation to the former CEO of/now senior consultant to the Santa Cruz festival as to how he ever uses variable feedback ;). (this is taken largely out of context here, so this should not be taken as a general statement about Rick's approach). I liked your description, simply because my personal loop evolution was just the other way around: when I did the first loop things (in 1997 - that's when I first subscribed to LD...), I was working with to rather short delays. Now those had, like any delay, variable feedback, but I never used it back then - everything was 100% (except perhaps for a quick fadeout at the end). The next steps were, not specifically in that order, Headrush, DL4, RDS 2001 and then Repeater. Now the Repeater has variable (secondary) feedback, only same here - I almost never used that, and the same is true for the early phases of my use of Möbius (starting in 2006 - I remember that I was first completely puzzled by the "secondary feedback" thing because I couldn't understand why anybody would want a loop fading while it's not in overdub!). Luckily, I had gotten a DD20 for my 2006 appearance at Rick's festival, and as you may know, the looper mode in this thing sucks, but the long delays are cool. So I was more or less forced to play with feedback (which, with a delay, is of the EDP "primary" kind). And those experiences ("hey, that's cool !") then led to me also using that with Möbius. [Self-plug here - you can find something in the guitar solo in the second part of "Detlev on Drugs" from my "Weird Specialist" album (2007): http://moinlabs.bandcamp.com/track/detlev-on-drugs - there's both static audio and MIDI "backing track" loops (e.g. e piano, synbass, drums and two or three guitars), before a guitar solo starts at 5:22 to play with its own looper version, which gets reversed and halfspeeded and multiplied in the process]. Ok, getting to the point: The reason why those things that keep coming out are so feature-limited: not only that for their most important use case (that being recording layered performances), most musicians don't need the fancy stuff, they wouldn't even know how to use it when you gave it to them. So the plan for a company which already has those features or plans to implement them would be to tell their customer base they need that, even though they don't know what it is. It seems (and this is only from what you can see from the description/video available) that Vox has found a clever way of doing this, by putting all the odd stuff (e.g. kinda-multiply, variable feedback) into the "resample" function and as long as you don't use it, you have your membership-getting-pulled-backing-track-looper. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 15:19:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE1D0183492; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5A18428E1C184E2DA2EBE7066B5F46A9@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:19:30 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:19:29 +0000 (UTC) ?Neither I nor my English wife had any trouble at all traveling in and out of the US last year. On the last leg home through Jacksonville and Atlanta our carry-on goods got looked at by TSA folks, with little delay. We had the laptop, and stuff I'd gotten in the US like the GR3/GR20, and my transparent-blue Steinberger Synapse (delightfully carry-on). The male inspectors really loved looking over the guitar, but I didn't feel delayed or threatened in any way. When we were checking our luggage I got the question about the Synapse: "Is that a firearm?" I had thought up a lot of lines to cast forth during being intrusively searched but the searching never happened, and I didn't see anyone else being pulled aside. I can assume therefore that it's possibly the attitude one displays during the go-through that might make all the difference, and most likely has an effect on further trips through the security go-throughs. Make enough of an indignant stink about it and there's little doubt there will be a note made about it. Additionally, visiting a prisoner in Guantanamo would seem to by default require some sort of more-than-regular inspection. This should not be a surprise, and I'd be interested to hear any non-third-party stories LD members have about such difficulties. -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:22 PM To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Is the new Stalin African-American? http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/index.html (via @ilovetypography on twitter). Any of you had experiences similar to those described in this article about DHS/TSA proceedings when entering the US (both for US citizens and others)? Sad to say, but the way this looks, this may require us all either to never enter the US again - or to go back to hardware loopers... Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 16:25:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7469018348C; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UKv+/rjWc9FjnWhdleRR2rI1V3GI4Z0erW7J23H4yME=; b=Sy+Hzs3rGUfAnMnclyxPeIpavldUh1VK0DbL8lsTLxW1EByBw3+JJCHhDge4g4E9sA JofGuXDXE3CDnPF9rSYiyx5jS0DNDbw8zaGNmmn5cnFBPTPBhu2pQRHD1vGsgxUsOQWk 7ADQt2ZeQRbt2q7rpianrMw9WkJA2N5UwgOGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mDRa6P99aL/n72XdK2RCtWMOLIZSQd9z16ZT4DJYU6P6rzNyn2jCc+rf7cIMujTMV9 Xpx2P39jvu57npjLAvblCVugDmz3W43Ry+QGTbvHhiGC+7njvgsiXpJlWBNA7zKz0ieS Tz5GX3aDnQOrQbrkjpla9ov40ooClTN3SYUBI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5A18428E1C184E2DA2EBE7066B5F46A9@ELUK1> References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> <5A18428E1C184E2DA2EBE7066B5F46A9@ELUK1> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:25:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? From: Dennis Moser To: Stephen Goodman Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3AwBuB.A.JnC.TwxMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:25:56 +0000 (UTC) There seems to have been an increase in searches, shakedowns, and seizures this past Fall in particular, as was noted in the article. I experienced harassment flying in to Newark from Berlin in September. Newark was bad. The East Coast seems to have been especially bad. I'm only grateful I wasn't carrying a guitar, just the mixer, mics, stands, and a laptop. Ironically, none of the travel between London, Paris, or Berlin was problematic in the least. I say that, because 2 weeks later flying between Denver and Phoenix, I saw little evidence of any increased vigilance. Last week I was traveling between San Diego and Denver and had no problems whatsoever (except, in leaving out of Denver, I had to do the nudie scan and they, politely, reminded me to remove my passport from my shirt pocket). It's hard to tell, as the rhetoric can get pretty heavy from both sides. A lot of civil libertarians are quick to cite stories from several years ago, but there have been some changes on the other side. Most of the TSA workers do NOT want to be groping people all day long, so they have to deal with crappy morale. The press is lousy when it comes to getting accurate information, but Glenn Greenwald is a pretty careful writer when it comes to verifying his sources and stating things in a calm and reasoned manner. SO I listen to him pretty carefully. If you're going to be flying (especially! Though I wasn't entirely surprised at the guy that had his stuff seized, arriving by train from Canada. Some US politician was talking about ALL public transportation being subject to the same kind of security theater as the airports), I'd highly recommend shipping your gear ahead , if you can. Once you get to the US, try to fly as little as possible. The downside is that it isn't just laptops; it's any device that they consider to be "suspicious"...it was my little Behringer mixer that had the jerks in Newark all freaking out. They are VERY loose in their usage of "electronic devices"... It's definitely getting worse but the worst of it is the passive attitude that most of the US citizenry about changing it. Dennis P.S. Atlanta, coming back from Florence by way of Paris a year ago, was a breeze. They seemed to have their act together. http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > ?Neither I nor my English wife had any trouble at all traveling in and ou= t > of the US last year. =A0On the last leg home through Jacksonville and Atl= anta > our carry-on goods got looked at by TSA folks, with little delay. =A0We h= ad > the laptop, and stuff I'd gotten in the US like the GR3/GR20, and my > transparent-blue Steinberger Synapse (delightfully carry-on). =A0The male > inspectors really loved looking over the guitar, but I didn't feel delaye= d > or threatened in any way. =A0When we were checking our luggage I got the > question about the Synapse: "Is that a firearm?" =A0I had thought up a lo= t of > lines to cast forth during being intrusively searched but the searching > never happened, and I didn't see anyone else being pulled aside. > > I can assume therefore that it's possibly the attitude one displays durin= g > the go-through that might make all the difference, and most likely has an > effect on further trips through the security go-throughs. =A0Make enough = of an > indignant stink about it and there's little doubt there will be a note ma= de > about it. =A0Additionally, visiting a prisoner in Guantanamo would seem t= o by > default require some sort of more-than-regular inspection. =A0This should= not > be a surprise, and I'd be interested to hear any non-third-party stories = LD > members have about such difficulties. > > -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:22 PM > To: Looper's Delight Mailing List > Subject: Is the new Stalin African-American? > > http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/inde= x.html > (via @ilovetypography on twitter). > > Any of you had experiences similar to those described in this article > about DHS/TSA proceedings when entering the US (both for US citizens and > others)? > > Sad to say, but the way this looks, this may require us all either to > never enter the US again - or to go back to hardware loopers... > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 16:48:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 080BE18348F; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:48:49 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33069-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD83B4608FA9B4-236C-26FE9@webmail-d007.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:48:56 +0000 (UTC) what did you mean by "African-American"? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 17:06:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C70D8183491; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QHBRciphwQZx+bLXfGe+erG9hDmg8MeeaDqhozYBJ6Y=; b=iAiVsy0JSuvPXDcolVtAoIzybwtDqt0s8P7ySJCyOUnS2sNFcFnK/zFAfa/z1/4lO9 eicxcrUjZe0f28344kT8aZ4wsrX+LoVdRzwVtU0HKfbAtF/pAuCWe0fK23McGKSH1OhD f1vZRH81Q/ty6MZw6023xPYvd1zLOBgXxauTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EOUCeVSrZasOWkz1U8HhvoR595tBx7sukSHMT2qXF+JJe0l1yIoYXAIIJs7zdqxl5p 3beebY6FRtfPnvLm6NofF/+T1GIpOeNN/W4xGMNJvxOk3ypFWcYbJiLHMMDdOtAyGDbg 3zgIaoRugZIP1iRH7+KKurd1wX6XjqktE4CGM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD83B4608FA9B4-236C-26FE9@webmail-d007.sysops.aol.com> References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> <8CD83B4608FA9B4-236C-26FE9@webmail-d007.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:06:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:06:57 +0000 (UTC) I think Rainer was making a reference to Obama's ethnic/racial background...if you read the cited article, you'll see that Obama has done nothing to overturn the abusive policies that Bush set out; if anything, he has only increased them. They're asking to extend the freaking Patriot Act...that should tell you something. ~~Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:48 AM, wrote: > what did you mean by "African-American"? > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 17:13:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E4AF183491; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f2406af6-5991-4e48-aef9-b0a24e880615_" X-Originating-IP: [24.21.162.195] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: Is the new Stalin African-American? Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:13:35 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2011 17:13:36.0086 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5DEBF60:01CBB5A0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:13:37 +0000 (UTC) --_f2406af6-5991-4e48-aef9-b0a24e880615_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My son just came home from the holidays from Beirut where he is studying at= LAU. He brought his laptop home and no such problem. I would think if a pe= rson were going to have an issue w/TSA it would happen coming in from the M= iddle East. JD > Date: Sun=2C 16 Jan 2011 15:22:50 +0100 > From: moinsound@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Is the new Stalin African-American? >=20 > http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/inde= x.html > (via @ilovetypography on twitter). >=20 > Any of you had experiences similar to those described in this article=20 > about DHS/TSA proceedings when entering the US (both for US citizens and= =20 > others)? >=20 > Sad to say=2C but the way this looks=2C this may require us all either to= =20 > never enter the US again - or to go back to hardware loopers... >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 = --_f2406af6-5991-4e48-aef9-b0a24e880615_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My son just came home from the holidays from Beirut where he is studying at= LAU. He brought his laptop home and no such problem. I would think if a pe= rson were going to have an issue w/TSA it would happen coming in from the M= iddle East.
JD

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= = --_f2406af6-5991-4e48-aef9-b0a24e880615_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 17:18:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADC14183497; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D33284F.2070101@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:18:07 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: LP2 at namm References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5I1BEC.A.TiE.YhyMNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:18:16 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Interresting! But are those "effects" really effects like in reverb, > ring modulation, delay, phaser etc? Aren't they rather "looping > actions sequences" presets? > > Per I used an octaver (Danelectro Chili dog- phenomenal tracking) and a Digitech Distortion Factory (but not much because of our amplification system's proximity to my mic) Everything else was manipulation of the LP-2 rick walker ps price point $300 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 17:22:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0885F18349C; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=29RbsIWc8+TwsG0TsA3D5Zx/oSSUKMg+CVEhZEaGWQk=; b=Kcdqi5hsQX6HxizVzoG9FB79XBNKEoZgEGZYnzMMlkkI3SyIrEwaXnThlV2EpgZPsI mjaEkHj9Qotb1BqoMSBGdLRbVHUiaklgtmQQnVLbNnvdJQxMISh36DQvPoMGePvVn8PI Ag/LrJHkyCijpZp4B9DyAD5m129XgfbttaV0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JDI0MioZhAGQWKwIMyL7bJFHRTjq7vID0ij7fQH49241Tyoh+3Z4HV5qa//JRtqp/r x0F/b+sOF/riMLKN0x5tlT/Axsrm7W4oBx3YPvftuH7YxSdRGOoBl+m2Q5ev03XqFV36 UtXKHdrMT73KOkckP0aHEg4ZsiVOP1FbJnIAk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:22:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:22:26 +0000 (UTC) You'd think that, but it doesn't really seem to be following that clear a pattern...and THAT is what makes one wonder. (Or it should!) ~~D. http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Jeremy devros wrote: > My son just came home from the holidays from Beirut where he is studying at > LAU. He brought his laptop home and no such problem. I would think if a > person were going to have an issue w/TSA it would happen coming in from the > Middle East. > JD > >> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:22:50 +0100 >> From: moinsound@googlemail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Is the new Stalin African-American? >> >> >> http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/index.html >> (via @ilovetypography on twitter). >> >> Any of you had experiences similar to those described in this article >> about DHS/TSA proceedings when entering the US (both for US citizens and >> others)? >> >> Sad to say, but the way this looks, this may require us all either to >> never enter the US again - or to go back to hardware loopers... >> >> Rainer >> >> -- >> http://moinlabs.de >> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 18:18:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C001C183497; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <82D15E35D83E4E348ED3BC8FD860CA45@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:18:14 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01CBB5A9.BDB38370" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:18:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CBB5A9.BDB38370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ?And we expected a lot worse, as they nearly grow terrorists over in the = UK these days. Damned shoe bomber. From: Jeremy devros=20 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 5:13 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: RE: Is the new Stalin African-American? My son just came home from the holidays from Beirut where he is studying = at LAU. He brought his laptop home and no such problem. I would think if = a person were going to have an issue w/TSA it would happen coming in = from the Middle East. JD > Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:22:50 +0100 > From: moinsound@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Is the new Stalin African-American? >=20 > = http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/inde= x.html > (via @ilovetypography on twitter). >=20 > Any of you had experiences similar to those described in this article=20 > about DHS/TSA proceedings when entering the US (both for US citizens = and=20 > others)? >=20 > Sad to say, but the way this looks, this may require us all either to=20 > never enter the US again - or to go back to hardware loopers... >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CBB5A9.BDB38370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And we expected a lot worse, as they nearly grow terrorists over in = the UK=20 these days.  Damned shoe bomber.
 
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JD

> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:22:50 +0100
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>=20 http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/inde= x.html
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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CBB5A9.BDB38370-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 18:50:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2789218347D; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T7sNV7jNvxen0Rf3LbQcVCjwWTpCQuquE2w+uqgsFtk=; b=gSvuIUUmrowkWloaKOitxrvdhf+2eSO9la+waWdLLTJChcn86/kX7oFu2q5EzMFW+F IYXJeH1k3uO06sJ4jLvVujO30bwRqbmXA449q1uIXT8uv1xLCeU6/sqDZ4q7a1ePo/Dg CzxNt91tItpwqPDiJmYn9QE9BGsm0R8PXAq+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i+eVYPfv1ewt9pWl0nbvxjuzydCw5kAThQ9jLVoIfo+gempdBilIpqe+KCJNFjtlgs kb0IDUp7mSfql2ejtQy08sILyO3RdSDXFZPnRG98QlnMVfH0hGnFX9HGLO3K+h5EumYh PSGcV6X7sxKQeNCEsuO6LVW2teAsUfiDInbQc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D330A14.6020709@googlemail.com> References: <4D330A14.6020709@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:50:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession From: Butch Band To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Yes! That's exactly what I do. Play guitar. I just use the looper as an underpaid rhythm section. Butch On Sunday, January 16, 2011, Rainer Straschill w= rote: > Mark Hamburg schrieb: > > Okay. I don't use pre-recorded loops. But I think I am coming to apprecia= te why most of the loop pedals out there (the LP2 soon to be an exception) = are so feature limited. > [...] > So, I've got the LP1 and it does all sorts of wonderful things and under = pressure from Bill I've even jury rigged myself a MIDI foot controller (I n= ow have a very confused EDP). What do I do? I record static loops and let t= hem play. Maybe I throw them into reverse of half-speed. Maybe I turn on sc= ramble. And I generally set up multiple loops often of different lengths. B= ut after getting a few loops going and mixed, it all just becomes backing t= racks. > > When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do I stop = getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;- > > Dear Mark, > > first of all, I believe there's no risk of your LD membership card gettin= g pulled, or you no longer being invited to perform in Santa Cruz - simply = because I remember having a very long conversation to the former CEO of/now= senior consultant to the Santa Cruz festival as to how he ever uses variab= le feedback ;). > (this is taken largely out of context here, so this should not be taken a= s a general statement about Rick's approach). > > I liked your description, simply because my personal loop evolution was j= ust the other way around: when I did the first loop things (in 1997 - that'= s when I first subscribed to LD...), I was working with to rather short del= ays. Now those had, like any delay, variable feedback, but I never used it = back then - everything was 100% (except perhaps for a quick fadeout at the = end). > The next steps were, not specifically in that order, Headrush, DL4, RDS 2= 001 and then Repeater. Now the Repeater has variable (secondary) feedback, = only same here - I almost never used that, and the same is true for the ear= ly phases of my use of M=F6bius (starting in 2006 - I remember that I was f= irst completely puzzled by the "secondary feedback" thing because I couldn'= t understand why anybody would want a loop fading while it's not in overdub= !). > Luckily, I had gotten a DD20 for my 2006 appearance at Rick's festival, a= nd as you may know, the looper mode in this thing sucks, but the long delay= s are cool. So I was more or less forced to play with feedback (which, with= a delay, is of the EDP "primary" kind). And those experiences ("hey, that'= s cool !") then led to me also using that with M=F6bius. > > [Self-plug here - you can find something in the guitar solo in the second= part of "Detlev on Drugs" from my "Weird Specialist" album (2007): http://= moinlabs.bandcamp.com/track/detlev-on-drugs - there's both static audio and= MIDI "backing track" loops (e.g. e piano, synbass, drums and two or three = guitars), before a guitar solo starts at 5:22 to play with its own looper v= ersion, which gets reversed and halfspeeded and multiplied in the process]. > > Ok, getting to the point: > The reason why those things that keep coming out are so feature-limited: = not only that for their most important use case (that being recording layer= ed performances), most musicians don't need the fancy stuff, they wouldn't = even know how to use it when you gave it to them. > So the plan for a company which already has those features or plans to im= plement them would be to tell their customer base they need that, even thou= gh they don't know what it is. It seems (and this is only from what you can= see from the description/video available) that Vox has found a clever way = of doing this, by putting all the odd stuff (e.g. kinda-multiply, variable = feedback) into the "resample" function and as long as you don't use it, you= have your membership-getting-pulled-backing-track-looper. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 19:12:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28A3F183478; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3DF11D9D-12A1-4C6A-9703-F55EDC1954BE@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:12:02 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=6.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on host.newworlddelivery.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:12:17 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I think what matters is the experience > you offer the audience! THAT is the artistry - not the technology or > techniques you are using to achieve the communication. ("..in the eye > of the beholder..." etc etc) > > Per I concur and have been "guilty" of the same many times in the past and with no "complaints" from anyone. "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." Wm. S. Burroughs :-) Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland, OR > > > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Mark Hamburg > wrote: >> Okay. I don't use pre-recorded loops. But I think I am coming to >> appreciate why most of the loop pedals out there (the LP2 soon to >> be an exception) are so feature limited. >> >> Once upon a time, I made have use of my EDP and played with >> feedback and next loop and all the rest. Hey, it was there, it was >> easy to grab, it was my first real looper in a long time. Fripp's >> Let the Power Fall had given me a taste for the 5-10 second loop >> with the feedback control at less than 100%. Etc. >> >> Then the EDPs drifted out of my rack. First to try to make room >> for an LP1 and then because I was trying to go rackless and ended >> up using the looper on the M13. >> >> Now I find myself fairly routinely recording a loop, closing it in >> overdub mode purely to avoid cutting off the sound, maybe >> overdubbing a bit more, and then showing a tendency to just let it >> play while I improvise/noodle/whack-off (choose your description). >> And you know what? I like working this way. The loop fills the >> sonic landscape in, but it lets me concentrate on the guitar >> rather than on the loop. >> >> So, I've got the LP1 and it does all sorts of wonderful things and >> under pressure from Bill I've even jury rigged myself a MIDI foot >> controller (I now have a very confused EDP). What do I do? I >> record static loops and let them play. Maybe I throw them into >> reverse of half-speed. Maybe I turn on scramble. And I generally >> set up multiple loops often of different lengths. But after >> getting a few loops going and mixed, it all just becomes backing >> tracks. >> >> When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do >> I stop getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;-) >> >> Or in the quest for a rackless system, maybe what I need is a >> simple looper or two to do the backing tracks thing and a long >> delay line with feedback and a way to mute the input to do the >> Frippertronics-style thing. The only issue is that I'd like the >> latter to be syncable to the former so that it doesn't all just >> become a mish-mash of unsynced loops -- though that can be fun in >> its own right. The LP2 might actually be a great choice here given >> support for things like quantized replace, but last I knew it >> wasn't stereo friendly the way even the DL4 is (although it's a >> mono looper) which means I'm back to worrying about needing mixing/ >> routine support and the benefits of shedding the rack may start to >> fade. >> >> So, it's probably stick with the rack, look for a real MIDI foot >> controller solution, and try to better exploit the LP1. >> >> I've got visions of an LP1 and my Korg AM8000R shoved inside >> something like the M13 with a really tuned performance model and >> control set, but that isn't going to happen and given the >> confession above, I have to ask whether I would really exploit it. >> But I'd certainly plunk down the money for it within reason... >> >> Mark >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 22:47:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 451B0183459; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=27w1tDaSuYlt7wWxq0AY/RpnkzvFoWKrTg88fz6uBlk=; b=BsPOrXqQR2fD+xniCkgVZXCCwI1ZbwKCCCbZM1uIDxIWA7P3tQGWDTaE8FE4kD+kCL Ux8gfk19JUiY8r9qi/wZm410eSD22saRu3nsoZlodH3tdBAFA4AntlSxFf0lGaGe/JzH yvZ9Be25CNoZDqe5OlWCqW8lKJEtq0/sApIls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZpUGaP6nAS0syxO1tvxTZP1BL7uAm87Rzvh/Im8qSV8z2THMDEBnr6oJy/j+8UVlp1 lpqgfZITjqqzSfaBRLkw76yp5YrOPtEClPjMtL+7U6ZORe5ZgxkXFNcQc22JkJDyFZav MfFXgx0TkqvHCqZxjKaXP2zNtQ2T4tSIeykCg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:47:36 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:47:37 +0000 (UTC) The effects look like looping-related commands. On a picture of the pedal, they are listed as: Retrigger Once Continue Retrigger Random Retrigger Continuous 1/2 Speed 1/4 Speed Replace Reverse Replace 1/8 Replace 1/16 Replace 1/12 Replace 1/24 Replace 1/7 Replace 1/9 Replace 1/10 Replace 1/64 I don't know what the "retrigger" or "replace" ones do. It looks like you can assign the above effects to 2 footswitches. Something I didn't know before - it uses standard SDHC cards! Price point is $300, with a $30 discount if you pre-order. I did. :) ...and it's on looperlative's website now: http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=3DLP2 --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Interresting! But are those "effects" really effects like in reverb, > ring modulation, delay, phaser etc? Aren't they rather "looping > actions sequences" presets? > > Per > > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:35 AM, Andy Owens wrote= : >> I got to spend a little time at Bobs booth at namm and played a bit with= the LP2. >> >> Nice and cool looking unit. You can sync them together or to an LP1. The= re are sixteen effects that you can use to manipulate the loop. Effects man= ipulate the loop as it is including overdubs. >> >> It worked fine, nice quiet buttons. Also got to hear Rick Walker use it = with much use of the effects, really cool!!! >> >> Andy Owens >> 1-800-AndyOwens >> Sent from my iPhone >> So the typing might not be my best! >> >> >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:13 AM, "todd reynolds" wrote: >> >>> Much success to you Bob, and to Rick and Bill and all who are close and= supporting the new product! >>> >>> Wish I could be there to try it out and have a go. =A0(as I'm sure many= of us wish) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 22:47:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29128183477; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-16_07:2011-01-14,2011-01-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101160113 Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: John Metzler In-reply-to: <4D33284F.2070101@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:47:34 -0800 Message-id: References: <4D33284F.2070101@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:47:38 +0000 (UTC) The LP-2 has a price point of $300 or the Danelectro Chill Dog has a price point of $300? ---John M. ______________________________________ On Jan 16, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Interresting! But are those "effects" really effects like in reverb, >> ring modulation, delay, phaser etc? Aren't they rather "looping >> actions sequences" presets? >> >> Per > I used an octaver (Danelectro Chili dog- phenomenal tracking) > and a Digitech Distortion Factory (but not much because of our > amplification system's proximity to my mic) > Everything else was manipulation of the LP-2 > > rick walker > > ps price point $300 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 22:52:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D1E918345D; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-16_07:2011-01-14,2011-01-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101160113 Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: John Metzler In-reply-to: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:52:09 -0800 Message-id: <4BA79C5D-2343-4465-B756-312F2C9C5AED@me.com> References: <4D33284F.2070101@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Oh, I see. Okay. So the LP-2 has a price point of $300. I guess I didn't realize that the LP-2 had such a different focus as far as features as compared to it's bigger older brother. Sounds fun though. ---John M. On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:47 PM, John Metzler wrote: > The LP-2 has a price point of $300 or the Danelectro Chill Dog has a price point of $300? > > ---John M. > ______________________________________ > On Jan 16, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> Interresting! But are those "effects" really effects like in reverb, >>> ring modulation, delay, phaser etc? Aren't they rather "looping >>> actions sequences" presets? >>> >>> Per >> I used an octaver (Danelectro Chili dog- phenomenal tracking) >> and a Digitech Distortion Factory (but not much because of our >> amplification system's proximity to my mic) >> Everything else was manipulation of the LP-2 >> >> rick walker >> >> ps price point $300 >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 23:15:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E77418345D; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+sRx+RhvbhCF45A6PaiFz5Fl2mGl67oh9X0Toplf08E=; b=IpxVJ+hkNwPdivHVIzpgRwJ+6uS8Q3/yvZlHisTMgsE4mkz3lybcK1pfxNQEAgxQ8p +aBoD7KAsZpqxflmbgaHB9D72SeosE0C8zhiGTh4DpRbqfcJ9V/bHWb3U9hTZPVqUwZP lBj+ojx81zXg5eWH4AbClLb3Js7IApno2K6ik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uQ8kvOLZBajW0S6+QQScaW2PUifQKNwioUOw8xgaTCmrsGkqlZbToppRkFFHsj0lKV WK2sf4dZnXJ8oZDPrf0OO1yDKGlJiaM/SCtaZlpAyWwAPEP/nwNwg6rHkubkdhqdESEt naokYk9ZpEeuo3qHgKXjkyrcOhN5s7hR2ZX/4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 00:15:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <2gXQmD.A.xzB.Tw3MNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:15:31 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > ...and it's on looperlative's website now: > http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=LP2 Such a cute stomp box! The web site's presentation doesn't give any clue on how the looper is to be used. I guess you have to scroll up or down the action list and use Effect 1 switch to activate the action printed to the left of the presently light up row and the Effect 2 switch to activate the corresponding left action. But how do you scroll that dual list? All four switches seem to be for other purposes. It would also be nice to know how the Replace action works in this looper. Does it create a drop-down in the loop right when you play the Replace action or does the replaced part play back on that spot in the following loop return? (like the classic Substitute on the EDP) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 23:46:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8089218345D; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UATtJdmryJxaYiasOGyAy9qpmp0HaRUlIs9Rjp4w9+w=; b=V82Tbe2KUvTLwbXiAL9c9mFOA4ccWJDogC4E3KdOwfrnhaSji+KVosVGdIpERL9aZL UPOTuUIRynB8Uk/anvSpz7il2P835tNuhAnp/mYU5zMUd9UgmQpGAmf2z7PLM8HUaVnD a06QMCabH75hv0aekPmnOSTUiJzC7ltS7q048= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=af47k7f4+mXFKIondaNayqkLfPBAokT82alJAVQWB6HtjN+0nNNaFfr71Y3UHTRKDG UdxOBHDKr2HWDNczqZ1M5tZ2V8hQ3Umq8+ZjdN4hwOWGtYGIs/Ew5ZbIScBY1daMf1gV sCVjZAKHid1LJCjhV+PfQV/T978vbWN7ZmFIA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:46:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1WEgY.A.EzC.TN4MNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:46:27 +0000 (UTC) I got to briefly use a prototype at y2k 2009. Since it was a list minute fill-in for my DL-4, I didn't use many of the features that weren't on that pedal. If I remember correctly, effect 1 corresponded with an LED color and effect 2 corresponded to a different LED color. There was a way to dial each LED up and down the list of effects on the right hand side. On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: >> ...and it's on looperlative's website now: >> http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=LP2 > > Such a cute stomp box! > > The web site's presentation doesn't give any clue on how the looper is > to be used. I guess you have to scroll up or down the action list and > use Effect 1 switch to activate the action printed to the left of the > presently light up row and the Effect 2 switch to activate the > corresponding left action. But how do you scroll that dual list? All > four switches seem to be for other purposes. > > It would also be nice to know how the Replace action works in this > looper. Does it create a drop-down in the loop right when you play the > Replace action or does the replaced part play back on that spot in the > following loop return? (like the classic Substitute on the EDP) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 23:50:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5604418345B; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: LP2 at namm thread-index: Acu12Bzy71PEU/mySPqCGca9k3yMMw== Message-ID: <17DDF53A-8FF9-4301-8BE5-BAF7979DDB65@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:49:58 -0600 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2011 23:50:11.0540 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D10E140:01CBB5D8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Yes exactly, sorry, but unlike the vox, more later, al 16 here are right dow= n yalls looping alley.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 16, 2011, at 4:46 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Interresting! But are those "effects" really effects like in reverb, > ring modulation, delay, phaser etc? Aren't they rather "looping > actions sequences" presets? >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:35 AM, Andy Owens wrote:= >> I got to spend a little time at Bobs booth at namm and played a bit with t= he LP2. >>=20 >> Nice and cool looking unit. You can sync them together or to an LP1. Ther= e are sixteen effects that you can use to manipulate the loop. Effects manip= ulate the loop as it is including overdubs. >>=20 >> It worked fine, nice quiet buttons. Also got to hear Rick Walker use it w= ith much use of the effects, really cool!!! >>=20 >> Andy Owens >> 1-800-AndyOwens >> Sent from my iPhone >> So the typing might not be my best! >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:13 AM, "todd reynolds" wrote: >>=20 >>> Much success to you Bob, and to Rick and Bill and all who are close and s= upporting the new product! >>>=20 >>> Wish I could be there to try it out and have a go. (as I'm sure many of= us wish) >>>=20 >>> Cheers, >>>=20 >>> Todd >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 16 23:54:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37FC418345D; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: LP2 at namm thread-index: Acu12K4hfzLqFZqPROKhEVWtw7ndAg== Message-ID: <31DDE8BC-580C-4693-BD03-8D15548A5D0E@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:54:00 -0600 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2011 23:54:15.0104 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE3DCC00:01CBB5D8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:54:16 +0000 (UTC) The two buttons on the right are labeled effects one and two. When a loop is= playing, they are ready to trigger the manipulation. If a loop is not playi= ng you hold down record and the effects light up and if you press one the on= e scrolls, two two scrolls. Purty cool.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 16, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Matt Davignon w= rote: >> ...and it's on looperlative's website now: >> http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=3DLP2 >=20 > Such a cute stomp box! >=20 > The web site's presentation doesn't give any clue on how the looper is > to be used. I guess you have to scroll up or down the action list and > use Effect 1 switch to activate the action printed to the left of the > presently light up row and the Effect 2 switch to activate the > corresponding left action. But how do you scroll that dual list? All > four switches seem to be for other purposes. >=20 > It would also be nice to know how the Replace action works in this > looper. Does it create a drop-down in the loop right when you play the > Replace action or does the replaced part play back on that spot in the > following loop return? (like the classic Substitute on the EDP) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 00:36:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 595D218345D; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 00:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=tzNm5F9WC9xGxkSdu-cA:9 a=NXIjjnU_SJwjHfsVUzUA:7 a=cJpfGmqDdzTUebV6q57IekigmckA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <2BB33E4A-00A0-4D42-A477-1CCC28A45778@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:36:16 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 00:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi there Mark, Well if you were just playing to mere canned backing tracks (sort of in in effect a instrumental "guitar karaoke" thing) and doing covers of of other peoples' boring pop songs you might get a ribbing or two from some folks here. But the conceptual use of looping as "backing tracks for something else doesn't bother me at all. I've been on the list since early October of '96 (it began only a couple of months before that in June or July). And while I have heard some people express minor disappointment from time to time here that so-and-so used "canned" loops as opposed to "real" live looping, it hasn't, as far as I know, really been a major axe to grind for hardly anybody. I've been doing live tape-loop, analog and digitalL looping a long, long time. But I have also been involved in so-called avant-garde music longer than I have ever been doing "normal" music. In modern "art music" the concept of "music concrete" has enjoyed a long and wholly accepted tradition. And, a little closer to mainstream, a good deal of Pink Floyd's recordings and performances would not be what they were if not for generous use of all sorts of pre-recorded material (most of which along the lines of "music concrete" or ambient/environmental sounds, or the signature cash register sounds of "Money"). At some point in the mid '80s I thought it would be cool to acquire a Roland sampling keyboard (even though I'm the worst keyboardist in the world) simply so I could perform with some longish canned loop samples from from various sources - along with my "live" looping. I've been doing it all along. After the arrival on the marketplace of various kinds of desktop "phrase" or "groove" sample players (first from Akai then from Roland) I switched from the awkward keyboard hardware to that format to augment my live looping. I never hid it, and I even sometimes brought that sort of setup to some of the early Y2K fests with no complaints from Rick. Though I have largely NOT used canned loops for the past few years, I am about to begin doing it again in my MaxMSP laptop setup. I have an eight track sample player in my new rig that can link to a folder with literally hundreds and hundreds of sound files in it and automatically pick and play a new random sound file every few seconds . . . or every tiny fraction of a second if I so chose. I have all sorts of other controls over that content too, but that's beside the point. Is it "music" . . . ? Is it "live looping" . . . ? Am I playing it like an instrument . . ? I don't know but I sure the heck like mucking around with it and will continue to do so. And let's face it, I (like yourself) am a guitar player. Most of what I do with loops (canned or live) is to create a "context" for my primary mode of self-expression on my primary instrument. I use and have always used those tools as "backing tracks" for my guitar playing when other "contexts" (a band of other musicians say) has not been available, or capable of providing a compatible one for me. Though I like to perform with others (it does get lonely sometimes when you live in a cultural backwater) and will ditch the loops and do so at almost any opportunity that presents itself, I've always rather enjoyed being self-sufficient too. I have never been ashamed of that. I don't lay in my bed at night dreaming of different new ways to push buttons, and what those button pushes might do. What I dream, if my dreams are musical at all, is about stuff I might play on the guitar. If folks have a problem with that, it's their problem, not mine. The Keller Williams mode of doing live looping is fine. The "looper as another instrument itself" mode of thinking and working is just fine too. But I'm with you on this (I think), I'm not really "there" in either of those ways of thinking about looping. And I am certainly not "there" in being a purist as to what's live or not or what is a better way than another way or not. Musically, it's all just stuff. We do what we do. Hopefully we'll keep doing it a little longer before the universe tells us to pack it in. The point is, do you enjoy it? Does it make your soul soar? Anything that doesn't is a distraction or a waste of time. Do what works for you, don't be ashamed of it or feel like you must make excuses for it. Life's too short. Tell the critics to get stuffed. :-) Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 01:33:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0BD818345D; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 01:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8KWs6n6LecoV5rAEck43SGDYC1RC+eHXEB5VmYEtX4w=; b=P5dywJ1OCLIZJKUN3FL7DiLQPyatpsVB/vhSIOCgPWdL1a4FqYgIF0HB4sPR9wAmvA nK6owXUssayO4UrrZNn59tRWJ5wzh1AYwi1YGE6jCOaReeaCiuEIMY4xYzl0lYJNFgIZ be7c+EPgVjSg5OiT/MWnE6HSgbcu4hxzf5v+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tnTnFRHXlDqqsi05b2EmyF7iQc1sJtuPcqsfeZbmKnhPa+B7ZavpGgiitEoZYNeAsy ruXYxhEKBqMBXHtO0jSffUQ6XVzeHAbEqj2SwbxFiMErcobJ4yfhP/4JWKaL0mi6Dsne UHxD6asKCT76LtDkmofSbPUxO6oyV5YkZZpjU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:33:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: strymon el capistan delay pedal-(sound on sound loop mode like a tape loop) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e43d1afc053df049a00c48c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 01:33:19 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4e43d1afc053df049a00c48c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 from folks posting stuff about namm, i saw this on the strymon site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n29OncKKC8&feature=player_embedded i know there had been lots of talk about this pedal on The Gear Page, but i never read it. the video looks very interesting. here's what their webpage says about this: *Sound on Sound *Just like one of our favorite moving head tape echo machines, El Capistan gives you a Sound on Sound mode, but with some cool new features. When you enter the mode (Single Tape Head, Mode C), the machine is already recording, just like a traditional tape echo machine. We go several steps further by giving you *instant tape splice* and *bulk erase* functions. It's like having a built-in tape-style looper! To set the length of your tape, press Tap once to set your splice 'in' point, and press Tap again to set your splice 'out' point. All of the tone shaping knobs are active and affect your loop as it plays back and re-records. Press Tap a third time to completely erase the tape. You get 20 seconds of tape in slow speed, 10 seconds in fast speed. Check out our video demo below. if this is a repeat, please forgive...looks interesting for short loop options. s--- --e0cb4e43d1afc053df049a00c48c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
from folks posting stuff about namm, i saw this on the strymon site:
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i know there had been lots of talk about this pedal on The Gear Page, = but i never read it.
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here's what their webpage says about this:
Sound on Sound
Just like one of our favorite movin= g head tape echo machines, El Capistan gives you a Sound on Sound mode, but= with some cool new features. When you enter the mode (Single Tape Head, Mo= de C), the machine is already recording, just like a traditional tape echo = machine. We go several steps further by giving you instant tape spl= ice and bulk erase functions. It's like havin= g a built-in tape-style looper!

To set the length of your tape, press Tap once to set your splice '= in' point, and press Tap again to set your splice 'out' point. = All of the tone shaping knobs are active and affect your loop as it plays b= ack and re-records. Press Tap a third time to completely erase the tape. Yo= u get 20 seconds of tape in slow speed, 10 seconds in fast speed. Check out= our video demo below.
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if this is a repeat, please forgive...looks interesting for short loop= options.
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bh=Eta4pK0ihmJzrFKe4iVuPIui41kUgFINRSe8C/bCEfg=; b=ehkCmLbZp/qvNScFJOTAD5vH1OTkY+eqbqGgJ0gkRkqtZZmuZSfTs71OHyUCAfxDSb FdiV6yNqVyqWMnEx8QEnSkp1IfJH7pL9K3rjKGX/6cjC4OlLnEzJiu1zpFvVpxYrPT6F XfNxfepcBacGOOk1/vJJWh5AkfzB1QN0OLZpM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xdueRkYF5Nar9JFoJV4JnmeWSBJyxJq3hwhpPqNM9ZubGNblOuZ/f80Ev78sPRoQPu swg3dTxQPCS0p5W0KHTjY6v209zTMAop3IwxTbBSlmHZ8uFsco1na8+aVc4quFCze5hh JAiV6lfmt5rAsIGnQSzhbEThX1UuV2YUhLA84= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D330A14.6020709@googlemail.com> References: <4D330A14.6020709@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:22:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Ted you hit it! it reminds me of the live looping piece called "Buscando Paz" which is in youtube i did at the looping festival in Antwerp Belgium,it was the first time i ever did any beatboxing at all and one of my dear friends made sort of a dissaproving coment cause he thought i was using precanned loops;-)) ive used drum grooves from my adrenalinn slaved to my EDP playing in pubs doing my own cover version of some acoustic tunes,i try to tweak the drums and distort them so they dont sound to sterile and is quite fun,i also used to use an MPC1000 which i actually used at a looping concert i did here in germany. But ive always been shy of doing this type of sync looping at a festival,somehow the tone has never been too positive here;-) On the other hand i see plenty of beat boxing looping lately! for me it all boils down to the quality of sound,I remeber seeing Margaret Noble performing at the SC loopfestival with an analog groove box (i believe a Jomox),and i thought her performance was killer.I also really enjoyed the groove samples Michael Peters used at the Antwerp festival. A few times ive mailed this list about syncing to drum machines,wanted to get more into the midi sync side of it but i have a feeling not many are into it. Dont get me wrong,using accompaniment drum loops from an RC-50 is not really my cup of tea either but i love rhythms used with looping,if they are canned or not and if they sound good and are unusual and cool and you are using them to enhance your loops who cares. So if anybody is doing cool stuff with precanned send some links! cheers Luis On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Mark Hamburg schrieb: >> >> Okay. I don't use pre-recorded loops. But I think I am coming to >> appreciate why most of the loop pedals out there (the LP2 soon to be an >> exception) are so feature limited. >> [...] >> So, I've got the LP1 and it does all sorts of wonderful things and under >> pressure from Bill I've even jury rigged myself a MIDI foot controller (= I >> now have a very confused EDP). What do I do? I record static loops and l= et >> them play. Maybe I throw them into reverse of half-speed. Maybe I turn o= n >> scramble. And I generally set up multiple loops often of different lengt= hs. >> But after getting a few loops going and mixed, it all just becomes backi= ng >> tracks. >> >> When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do I stop >> getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;- > > Dear Mark, > > first of all, I believe there's no risk of your LD membership card gettin= g > pulled, or you no longer being invited to perform in Santa Cruz - simply > because I remember having a very long conversation to the former CEO of/n= ow > senior consultant to the Santa Cruz festival as to how he ever uses varia= ble > feedback ;). > (this is taken largely out of context here, so this should not be taken a= s a > general statement about Rick's approach). > > I liked your description, simply because my personal loop evolution was j= ust > the other way around: when I did the first loop things (in 1997 - that's > when I first subscribed to LD...), I was working with to rather short > delays. Now those had, like any delay, variable feedback, but I never use= d > it back then - everything was 100% (except perhaps for a quick fadeout at > the end). > The next steps were, not specifically in that order, Headrush, DL4, RDS 2= 001 > and then Repeater. Now the Repeater has variable (secondary) feedback, on= ly > same here - I almost never used that, and the same is true for the early > phases of my use of M=F6bius (starting in 2006 - I remember that I was fi= rst > completely puzzled by the "secondary feedback" thing because I couldn't > understand why anybody would want a loop fading while it's not in overdub= !). > Luckily, I had gotten a DD20 for my 2006 appearance at Rick's festival, a= nd > as you may know, the looper mode in this thing sucks, but the long delays > are cool. So I was more or less forced to play with feedback (which, with= a > delay, is of the EDP "primary" kind). And those experiences ("hey, that's > cool !") then led to me also using that with M=F6bius. > > [Self-plug here - you can find something in the guitar solo in the second > part of "Detlev on Drugs" from my "Weird Specialist" album (2007): > http://moinlabs.bandcamp.com/track/detlev-on-drugs - there's both static > audio and MIDI "backing track" loops (e.g. e piano, synbass, drums and tw= o > or three guitars), before a guitar solo starts at 5:22 to play with its o= wn > looper version, which gets reversed and halfspeeded and multiplied in the > process]. > > Ok, getting to the point: > The reason why those things that keep coming out are so feature-limited: = not > only that for their most important use case (that being recording layered > performances), most musicians don't need the fancy stuff, they wouldn't e= ven > know how to use it when you gave it to them. > So the plan for a company which already has those features or plans to > implement them would be to tell their customer base they need that, even > though they don't know what it is. It seems (and this is only from what y= ou > can see from the description/video available) that Vox has found a clever > way of doing this, by putting all the odd stuff (e.g. kinda-multiply, > variable feedback) into the "resample" function and as long as you don't = use > it, you have your membership-getting-pulled-backing-track-looper. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 09:30:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66D7C183466; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=h/g11FKQH5HLY+9wGYyXDDPbe+qIHRtGJ2vAS+CQsGE=; b=XseUzPYxtKtlAcDGL6n3iBytrFiEDx3PvRdI0nivR3vvET1bUFzmKPsUZL4bdBIBOV nJg2DxJgHZyg0CLYe4GlMoqTBt3AY3NI1qlan3HsZKhQTUPUHUooWfhnTh9jXjtAL42x Y9d6pTZh6eT6O2ds1zUcToSI63YR7p1K7yZGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kAYR+4xefH1MR0qkorqBmuKqW0T1VAHkmLdeUujJpF8poCetRUKT8Hy7oiVGCkLr24 p86RyG+OpXwW/Fm3qDSn7GwOKnphb24nMoO83mGJgDGegT+AE70GbkOijQ8ipgCjcpRN 5nFbTv6RBuCvBQQZoNT0Gs8uARSs8GHQ5PJsY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:30:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:30:54 +0000 (UTC) i was messing with mainstage yesterday to try to do some looping with it,but man this thing is CPU hungry! is showing about 25 and my Imac becomes slow upon using it and when using its looper is not very accurate responding. is anybody using it live succesfully?can the latency be better adjusted?what buffer sizes are u guys using? Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 09:59:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C1CA183476; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2P0EgAcGsvX1qXXM5NMJloR3LZ+JNKGpvxLFtu2pgr0=; b=p5fwB5ltXw0Ds4lpAUsrqCCO8yvWPDruLOEKoYU1/8hWS+nim5+kCiMTJzQW8/+F5w eWmFtp22QVB7upGSiDWp/HJMW2gS8I7yCQRrWJEn6f6gIyPXgHmJbobnJSj/1lVatB4z 5liFZVqF7SwX962aqUJ2WTmH3wmkKZHnt4LY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Dz1htiOpvDe7WxU1ijPwcWjdCEt1mj99iV67kyMdtszGin4FG7jsEaCx86y4XjoAt+ GIv2ZdbTfFK3/JTqjdJMtThkRC00iGP3kfuhbMwC45vYhQirJkgm/oKkjlFMYYZqxS9d jgqjLm2Xj+CdBloN6S4XRqdVel268BLJNA7dQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:59:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:59:12 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > is anybody using it live succesfully? Yes. I'm doing that. And even though Mainstage blocks the keyboard key commands of Mobius' I'm staying with that host because it sounds better and is lighter on the CPU. Of course you have to avoid using plugins that are extra CPU consuming, that's the trick. And since some of the Logic plugins are extremely CPU efficient you can reach an extraordinary low CPU consumption if sticking with those plugins in your Minstage stetups. Channel EQ and Compressor are the two most used plugins over here. And limiter (but beware of the Ad-Limiter 'cause that is a mastering tool that would ruin your live setup if you try using it). On the master output I use a Multiplressor followed by a limiter. When Mainstag was released a couple of years ago I copied my older Bidule setup and have in fact used the same wiring ever since (although I constantly try alternatives). > can the latency be better > adjusted? Certainly! Do not use plugins that add latency and seet the audio buffer to 128 samples. > what buffer sizes are u guys using? I use 128. That is on a 2.2 MHz MacBook, the four year old white model with the cracking up plastic case ;-)) and Santa Rosa chip. It is till good enough and I have seen the CPU load minimize over these four years as Apple keep optimizing code between system upgrades and application upgrades. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 10:15:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FFE0183478; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <9F2A206BD2664E0E9F9ECBF50863492E@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: "Ghost 2011a" Live for Listening Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:15:53 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:15:47 +0000 (UTC) I've produced an accompaniment for Matt Stevens' lovely "Ghost" heretofore entitled "Ghost 2011a" for your listening pleasure, and hopefully acceptance to the Glastonbury Festival's "unsigned artists" list. Enjoy! http://www.earthlight.net/Smedia/Ghost%202011a.mp3 Stephen Goodman EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net http://www.earthlight.tv * Sent from a PC, not an iPhone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 10:38:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C711418347A; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:38:43 +0100 From: buzap@gmx.net Message-ID: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? To: "LD LoopersDelight" X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1944pUj7ot4xqIeSady/g3DskGTFrU/b1s0teLBay 89lzpog5iTC4KFAtjI9GwseNIeJTZsNbMdMA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: ASUMeOd8bmwoUdtpkzZLM2NPUzc4clEI Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I was wondering: I don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch just to have a portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, VoiceJam)? This would give me more portability than the RC-2. Would like to hear your experience! Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 10:41:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE230183476; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6PprKnEHJw/inFTuXiAT2z4TFPSmKZlWD01oUfZ4AXA=; b=b1Lc9imC5Pbxs7/XuJt5X2QCn2ImYFDpFrhMj0MdYqdJHQcy2iWtLaLb0DkCtK02WN 7bkuYWyrhI93Msk2OAzuew+q3lryW81cRctroUZqzCytKnNnFeeGCMSLOv0T1fZht6px KqoV7tLgUk/ez46ofApszodLz/MWcmyhqDAPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fJ/fyPs35UwRWSg7jqsW0qDWdyQEjITo3VlzlRdX2czUc4kOGMjZp+SYwv2JxAdyFq RjVrSd1LwOQQRln2aKQ3712h6Dx76NrMoJ8zulZ8cWcxqESkOky2WY3pf/bAPJAHuUFU DZgONOdB0Pxe1JfHcYykmHS9L1s+oStUtQOKE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:24:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: strymon el capistan delay pedal-(sound on sound loop mode like a tape loop) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Wow Scott, that's an insanely cool looper! Like having the Augustus Loop plugin inside a box. I would buy this looper if laptops would not be available. These kind of "warble/wobble/flutter" processings are my fav and I always keep "tape speed tilt" on a foot pedal. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Scott Hansen wrote: > from folks posting stuff about namm, i saw this on the strymon site: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n29OncKKC8&feature=player_embedded > > i know there had been lots of talk about this pedal on The Gear Page, but i > never read it. > the video looks very interesting. > > here's what their webpage says about this: > Sound on Sound > Just like one of our favorite moving head tape echo machines, El Capistan > gives you a Sound on Sound mode, but with some cool new features. When you > enter the mode (Single Tape Head, Mode C), the machine is already recording, > just like a traditional tape echo machine. We go several steps further by > giving you instant tape splice and bulk erase functions. It's like having a > built-in tape-style looper! > > To set the length of your tape, press Tap once to set your splice 'in' > point, and press Tap again to set your splice 'out' point. All of the tone > shaping knobs are active and affect your loop as it plays back and > re-records. Press Tap a third time to completely erase the tape. You get 20 > seconds of tape in slow speed, 10 seconds in fast speed. Check out our video > demo below. > > if this is a repeat, please forgive...looks interesting for short loop > options. > s--- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 10:59:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A8C8183474; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yDN/pKyM2gtUjFl3FHHGRvAZjLODid6FiHIAj4aQRLA=; b=SG1S3joYm71iZPzxs9d8uUefe5MyVM+B7cVHEvJA41IgmCe7wxkm63dJ01bGGoo24m u5CTvpeRSm7rbVItDFsk6vow879Ufpw8uMxW0fdYjOAapZUwe6FD94kIUS6OV9A1Zi8g dW2FNDDDEZejsvBkR7alc7QYNJaHWRt7bKdjk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=df4d0oyxc+saF2NwCgA3yvEDW9cKO8ec6MlujwUJbZuLr9SSKHm0hArHvdeqoh9wUo 8X9pjWFOmqNaRTEayV5aSymQI1da1szbMu9rJ7XRqqkDDodMDAI86zTL+xtoEDnHr17C faFJaHk9/mEgKgFi8RK4OPsvERKFYQlEafoK0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:59:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:59:21 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:38 AM, wrote: > I was wondering: > I don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch just to have a portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, VoiceJam)? I would guess "no", but advice you to hold back for a couple of days to see reviews coming out of the Alesis StudioDock Pro for iPad that was just announced at NAMM. Those reports will tell how serious the iPad actually can get with audio - after all, it is not built for CPU demanding and timing critical applications like music. http://www.slipperybrick.com/2011/01/alesis-studiodock-pro-for-ipad/ My bet is that the iPad will stay as the useful multi touch screen control surface it already has proven to be. Then you need some hidden away computer that does the actual processing. The wireless OSC based connection is very useful with the iPad but right now there are no looping software that supports OSC right of the bat. Logic does that though, and I have just spent a couple of days writing a tutorial article on OSC with Logic (Swedish only) and it is really cool I must say. Work right away and you can use the iPhone for everything from transport control to doing deeply into an EQ plugiin to adjust one particular frequency band cutoff. I only have the iphone and you would need an iPad to get serious with wireless OSC mixing because mixing is like playing music, you need to instantly adjust several parts of the music (tracks) at once and that many tracks doesn't fit on the iphone screen. Gosh... this post grew by itself, got to stop here (I actually wrote the part below before this but never mind, my brain has become all fucked up by too much speed typing these days... it kind of processes everything at the same time while typing is a linear process.... funny but definitely a differetnt storuyd - now out of here!!!!) BTW, my old Ericsson mobile phone recently crapped out and I replaced it with an iPhone4. What amazes me is that with an iPhone you can call and text message for free by using certain apps like Viber and What's Up. And - here comes my point - the Viber dev team says on their web site that they will soon be releasing Viber for iPad as well. This means you could use an iPad instead of an iphone for communication. That would require Skype with a Skyp-Out account as well since Apple have crippled the iPad to stop us from using them instead of iphone (as usual they want us to buy all their gadgets ;-) So that was kind of cool to find out... if I had known I might have not picked up the iphone but gone with the pad right away. Also, rumors has that a generation two iPad is being wrapped up right now in the secret Apple laboratories. More rumors telling it will have better looking screen and good sounding built-in speakers. No rumors yet regarding USB 3 ports or digital audio ports, I guess that depends on whether its processing power can handle live audio application. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 11:21:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A9B618347F; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=icoRE9KQYfYD5abmxR76BgdJD8MkzQ7cnK4XKUiLbgg=; b=tuU1uPXKXSZJgdmGhP4xz+SJDhkJT+h6yL7M/j9QUfmOtx7TciJbBV5wvuL5PWcTT2 PBwMlBDwjYneciguJLOuEqAxQdYe4kNEf0qmoyHcFVKHihCSnUYWqOrqUwOq3nDDl1pr EcvAQiZ12i27NDlFIcnYiV5Kv46QP2E/ndgsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XP1F3ToVWjqnQdzTP3XdDqUHaxkrclMoIk1IAvB87/hiKUEcce954pzb65BSx4XPX0 UZDOgzMf/vdfXWwZ5ymG6o9ZpT0K3jAxg2mpIQd2b3pmUM3S09PjQhH+qfT3mvGRDsGx d+LkjqAJA/I0Ts7BXv7TJfuCu5hAO9IFwvGy8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:21:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ad1d9879c2049a08fa56 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:21:03 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ad1d9879c2049a08fa56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per thanks for that. I have been dancing with getting one, not necessarily for music only but have been holding back hoping for news on the next generation possibly having USB capabilities although as you point out it ma= y still be another gen or two before the iPad can handle audio processing. Still it's interesting times to be about the planet. Bet NAMM was neat. Jim On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:38 AM, wrote: > > I was wondering: > > I don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch jus= t > to have a portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, VoiceJam= )? > > I would guess "no", but advice you to hold back for a couple of days > to see reviews coming out of the Alesis StudioDock Pro for iPad that > was just announced at NAMM. Those reports will tell how serious the > iPad actually can get with audio - after all, it is not built for CPU > demanding and timing critical applications like music. > http://www.slipperybrick.com/2011/01/alesis-studiodock-pro-for-ipad/ > > My bet is that the iPad will stay as the useful multi touch screen > control surface it already has proven to be. Then you need some hidden > away computer that does the actual processing. The wireless OSC based > connection is very useful with the iPad but right now there are no > looping software that supports OSC right of the bat. Logic does that > though, and I have just spent a couple of days writing a tutorial > article on OSC with Logic (Swedish only) and it is really cool I must > say. Work right away and you can use the iPhone for everything from > transport control to doing deeply into an EQ plugiin to adjust one > particular frequency band cutoff. I only have the iphone and you would > need an iPad to get serious with wireless OSC mixing because mixing is > like playing music, you need to instantly adjust several parts of the > music (tracks) at once and that many tracks doesn't fit on the iphone > screen. Gosh... this post grew by itself, got to stop here (I actually > wrote the part below before this but never mind, my brain has become > all fucked up by too much speed typing these days... it kind of > processes everything at the same time while typing is a linear > process.... funny but definitely a differetnt storuyd - now out of > here!!!!) > > BTW, my old Ericsson mobile phone recently crapped out and I replaced > it with an iPhone4. What amazes me is that with an iPhone you can call > and text message for free by using certain apps like Viber and What's > Up. And - here comes my point - the Viber dev team says on their web > site that they will soon be releasing Viber for iPad as well. This > means you could use an iPad instead of an iphone for communication. > That would require Skype with a Skyp-Out account as well since Apple > have crippled the iPad to stop us from using them instead of iphone > (as usual they want us to buy all their gadgets ;-) So that was kind > of cool to find out... if I had known I might have not picked up the > iphone but gone with the pad right away. Also, rumors has that a > generation two iPad is being wrapped up right now in the secret Apple > laboratories. More rumors telling it will have better looking screen > and good sounding built-in speakers. No rumors yet regarding USB 3 > ports or digital audio ports, I guess that depends on whether its > processing power can handle live audio application. > > Per > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054ad1d9879c2049a08fa56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per thanks for that. =A0I have been dancing with getting one, not necessari= ly for music only but have been holding back hoping for news on the next ge= neration possibly having USB capabilities although as you point out it may = still be another gen or two before the iPad can handle audio processing. = =A0Still it's interesting times to be about the planet. =A0Bet NAMM was= neat. =A0Jim

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmai= l.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:38 AM, =A0<buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
> I was wondering:
> I don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touc= h just to have a portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, Voi= ceJam)?

I would guess "no", but advice you to hold back for a coupl= e of days
to see reviews coming out of the Alesis StudioDock Pro for iPad that
was just announced at NAMM. Those reports will tell how serious the
iPad actually can get with audio - after all, it is not built for CPU
demanding and timing critical applications like music.
http://www.slipperybrick.com/2011/01/alesis-studiod= ock-pro-for-ipad/

My bet is that the iPad will stay as the useful multi touch screen
control surface it already has proven to be. Then you need some hidden
away computer that does the actual processing. The wireless OSC based
connection is very useful with the iPad but right now there are no
looping software that supports OSC right of the bat. Logic does that
though, and I have just spent a couple of days writing a tutorial
article on OSC with Logic (Swedish only) and it is really cool I must
say. Work right away and you can use the iPhone for everything from
transport control to doing deeply into an EQ plugiin to adjust one
particular frequency band cutoff. I only have the iphone and you would
need an iPad to get serious with wireless OSC mixing because mixing is
like playing music, you need to instantly adjust several parts of the
music (tracks) at once and that many tracks doesn't fit on the iphone screen. Gosh... this post grew by itself, got to stop here (I actually
wrote the part below before this but never mind, my brain has become
all fucked up by too much speed typing these days... it kind of
processes everything at the same time while typing is a linear
process.... funny but definitely a differetnt storuyd - now out of
here!!!!)

BTW, my old Ericsson mobile phone recently crapped out and I replaced
it with an iPhone4. What amazes me is that with an iPhone you can call
and text message for free by using certain apps like Viber and What's Up. And - here comes my point - the Viber dev team says on their web
site that they will soon be releasing Viber for iPad as well. This
means you could use an iPad instead of an iphone for communication.
That would require Skype with a Skyp-Out account as well since Apple
have crippled the iPad to stop us from using them instead of iphone
(as usual they want us to buy all their gadgets ;-) =A0So that was kind
of cool to find out... if I had known I might have not picked up the
iphone but gone with the pad right away. Also, rumors has that a
generation two iPad is being wrapped up right now in the secret Apple
laboratories. More rumors telling it will have better looking screen
and good sounding built-in speakers. No rumors yet regarding USB 3
ports or digital audio ports, I guess that depends on whether its
processing power can handle live audio application.

Per




--
From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054ad1d9879c2049a08fa56-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 11:35:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1309183488; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CA3sngPOPPDGEfkRgc/3dtZKVPWoCjV07Sjq3aUXc1c=; b=rFNGceem0QqehqPJR48aFGFCwS76GV4RliLM3cOKGPBIwhdbTaLB8Yl6OqWBKm7YXj qMyKyMwVpbGq8sjufz8jxoJYFn9LHjVE7eOPeOmHY+x3GWbVJ/usdNu2fHa6MPy6lVp8 fXxpylCkil/LL4Y6gvNHc2+t6aPlYi0n9TmJs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=LiwaT6fKTrMyppBf9RyEK4+C23HmX0A5ts5MzuALQYzgJqnf7NUX8IHjL3cCbVGk1F ffv4QPYQuTw7y/eqrIR9QhR2EtPsD7Qy/cXzWYrm33xXZ3mdY4zz741eRl5NdS0GWN+C QCMjaVgTjhuTYtjrYyt510unpbqgyhwTn2V0U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9F2A206BD2664E0E9F9ECBF50863492E@ELUK1> References: <9F2A206BD2664E0E9F9ECBF50863492E@ELUK1> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:35:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Ghost 2011a" Live for Listening From: Fabio_A To: Stephen Goodman Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644cbb65a6ab0049a092ff7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:35:48 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644cbb65a6ab0049a092ff7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice ! -f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/1/17 Stephen Goodman > I've produced an accompaniment for Matt Stevens' lovely "Ghost" heretofore > entitled "Ghost 2011a" for your listening pleasure, and hopefully acceptance > to the Glastonbury Festival's "unsigned artists" list. Enjoy! > > http://www.earthlight.net/Smedia/Ghost%202011a.mp3 > > > Stephen Goodman > EarthLight Productions > * > http://www.earthlight.net > http://www.earthlight.tv > * > Sent from a PC, not an iPhone > --0016e644cbb65a6ab0049a092ff7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice !
=A0
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=A0
2011/1/17 Stephen Goodman <= spgoodman@earthlight.net>= ;
I've produced an accompanime= nt for Matt Stevens' lovely "Ghost" heretofore entitled "= ;Ghost 2011a" for your listening pleasure, and hopefully acceptance to= the Glastonbury Festival's "unsigned artists" list. =A0Enjoy= !

http://www.earthlight.net/Smedia/Ghost%202011a.mp3


Stephen Goodman
EarthLight Productions
*http://www.earth= light.net
http://www.earthlig= ht.tv
*
Sent from a PC, not an iPhone

--0016e644cbb65a6ab0049a092ff7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 11:54:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57DDA183480; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nYkdiVm5wAza+9ZAfWki1UrRGGloNqnI42+6hDHG2uE=; b=nShOGrHKkUGJ/CbTRQP8Rp0qypc/jkvQTxCL2R3Yv9Ta+KOz0VuQxRQ8eZn/fOOJ8u h43kjeka5eyPvNAYWl7nZL2glQpJJuA3wodvwfeDhdghNyNvskTQ/OYKwAHyPKjIWHYE wzVGyOly75HVNOzfr030W0p/WaZMkAxzYwSIc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kiuUtZ0sGeCpkiQ4BF5lC8Iz5uRnUCEXf3NijZKXp8fTwtZ/SVa/O1G7COg8lfB2re gw+RSsSMfBUbLFSe6jgC/fnBTkCqsmJd8aJuT/FJNgmmgLAQJsM/M9EhOLobEnDd9AXU LH5kbqJoEXCPafCqCWi3gYQkrkIrNKHpA0KkU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:35:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:54:16 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jim Goodin wro= te: > although as you point out it may still be another gen or two before the i= Pad > can handle audio processing. If audio processing is not being supported with the gen 2 iPad I doubt it will never be. If contemplating Apple's typical marketing strategies I see a fair chance (risk) that the iPad story will evolve like those Mackbook Air laptopts; i.e. product design targeting ordinary people that do web surfing, typing and music listening with the machine. And the selling point Apple stresses is the cool design, these peep's want to show off a nice looking gadget on the coffee shop table. Musican friendly (read "powerful enough") laptops can not be designed in such a slick manner. Funny but also a bit sad facts of life. > =C2=A0Bet NAMM was neat. =C2=A0Jim I only was there virtually. But it was virtually awesome! I'm non-virtually interested in the GR-55 that I find almost revolutionary ;-)) (would fit in great with a "day job band" I'm playing with) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 12:14:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB593183488; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <31F6F7FA8C2A4963AE9D02013339E386@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:14:48 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:14:41 +0000 (UTC) It's worth noting that on a recent episode of CSI:New York, a French music student (killed of course) was using tablets as controllers to a laptop on a web streaming site (though the forensic description of how the site worked was fairly specious). Distributed processing would certainly make sense, though in the episode the poor girl was using stolen goods... Stephen Goodman EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net http://www.earthlight.tv * Sent from a PC, not an iPhone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 12:32:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 715BA183481; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 563752605/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.17.225/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.17.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgICAJvFM01YbRHh/2dsb2JhbAAMg3+SOMEFjhqBJIM4dASONw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,332,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="563752605" Message-ID: <4D3436C9.6070208@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:32:09 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone considered the alternatives to the Apple product? The Android OS is (i think) Linux based, and there's people working on low latency audio for it. Aren't there also various options for hacking too? Apple and M$ will never produce low latency. Just wondering why everyone's so i-obsessed andy buzap@gmx.net wrote: > Hi folks > > I was wondering: > I don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch just to have a portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, VoiceJam)? > > This would give me more portability than the RC-2. > Would like to hear your experience! > > Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 14:29:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D4A5183485; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 566707009/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.17.225/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.17.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsBAPrgM01YbRHh/2dsb2JhbAAMli/PSoVQBI43 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,333,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="566707009" Message-ID: <4D345243.9010903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:29:23 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Rick Walker Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2h_P6B.A.AuB.CJFNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Matt Davignon wrote: > The effects look like looping-related commands. > I don't know what the "retrigger" or "replace" ones do. It looks like > you can assign the above effects to 2 footswitches. > I've discussed those briefly with Rick, and plus a bit of speculation. Replace 1/x is a direct emulation of a certain specific edp behaviour, (also present on LP1). It replaces a single quantised chunk of the loop with input audio. In EDPish it's a "Shortpress of Quantised 8th Replace". I'm quite excited by that, while that effect has been around since 2003 it's was always somewhat hidden away in the more expensive products. If it catches on it could open up a lot of interest in the whole "looper as instrument" idea. I guess the vanilla Replace would be unquantised momentary (replace for as long as button is held) In that case, it's possible that quantised replaces will also cut out larger chunks if held for longer (but Retrigger is more or less what's offered by the DL4 Retrigger Once. Play the loop once from beginning then stop. Continue. Retrigger Continuous. Retrigger loop from beginning and keep going. Retrigger Random. Jump to a random point in the loop. The Random Retrigger is intended to be used rhythmically, I guess the loop would be filled with a variety of sounds (with slow attacks) so that rapid operation of the randtrig produced a well defined beat. Again, that's a very "looper as instrument" type feature. I don't think it's been pointed out yet that the LP2 has a Mix control (back panel) which, unusually for a small looper, makes it suitable for use on an Aux send. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 14:29:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52AA418348F; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:29:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T7FH+fDuyIS5uWO6RDm8AX7Pu0v8ga3o9+Bm4g50Kng=; b=kTD2UquyjqWkNaTtlIXk9gGHGMc+sy7nvmnuUACu8eAlDamHHaKQvOheO0Nk9A7Tm1 V8KiBKuvOG5bSmNzfJx1lopjQ6sA/qHiBkspVgDMNkW2UiTIU1DkT4eIuZqA2y6RdO9T sacgQtQbEbp11Q02b0pyIiOtwBeE8CfwK0F3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dTpJpXye0L4YVL0Uva2s1phss5XWwuDCtEHp/u4M9YBeYxMm+wLx2tE0LzcgZ+Fnj/ dDWkvAwmCJlLBg8fe6gGROicMrTF6CTBo20BsG7u2L/cowAAMzDOq4ih7ImgUHgtTOu3 ETfICykIIK01aNZ8BVenKKu7tXISj4TvxfTmQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:29:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <4GmFh.A.MyB.WJFNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:29:42 +0000 (UTC) To answer your question, which was about an iPOD Touch, NOT an iPad: YES! If you can find a refurb'd or used 32GB 3rd Generation iPod Touch (which is the MINIMUM configuration) for utilizing all the the latest and greatest that the Apple iOS will offer, then by all means do so...sorry, Per, but he DID ask about the iPod, not the iPad. You'll want to hack it/root it/jailbreak it to gain access to more of the possibilities, but that is no longer as daunting as it once was. The downsides: It's the iPOD, not the iPAD; this means you have a pretty small physical controller interface. As for the signal interface, you have to work around the 30-pin power interface and the audio input/output. While the Line 6 MIDI interface is great for just that, it does NOT supply power to the unit, so you'd need to careful to monitor the battery level when performing with it. It's an Apple product, one of the more tightly-controlled ones. But like any artistic tool, the "art" lies in the recognition of the limitations and going beyond them. For what it's worth I've been using one (iPod Touch 32 GB, 3rd Gen, Jailbroken) since July and wouldn't give it up except to get several iPads to replace it (I'd like to have a larger control surface partly due to have hams for hands). Be aware that there is SOME software that is iPAD-specific and will not run on the iPOD (tho' not a lot of that, yet...I expect we will be seeing more of a divergence there over the next few months). And as Andy Butler has rightly pointed out, there is a lot of momentum developing on the Android platform and it bears watching, but RIGHT NOW, there is nothing that rivals what is available on the iOS. The beauty of using the iPOD Touch is that it IS NOT a PHONE, so there is no cost penalty attached to it. Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:38 AM, wrote: > Hi folks > > I was wondering: > I don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch just to have a portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, VoiceJam)? > > This would give me more portability than the RC-2. > Would like to hear your experience! > > Buzap > -- > NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 14:40:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3D26183487; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hb+xHfSPetTIA2mKw5gFBBxyHNiGZ2mmNdqEfY28gu0=; b=mfmnmeJAKX33jMWRqd792Kq2fXekd9WBF2eMExV451HmTh6WBgeFwVnjBrcan+HWN6 BHPLgZ/fSVn8hy4NvgJnDP5p/B/ux9HBKbnBSnPLCOXJpHiCbz52+zKqYyOozjXLnAgc DDBIc5UU2hOnqiX7Xcr5Sk3k9NjqCfNaPX8jc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=H3FoGC5nvSQBLflWdRquiCUdiLYOQx/NBY4OXtaB8kqHr3phdhwWnc8xNhZ7QgTy80 7Aje32JgMGLj4fYVV06zD+k5iOP8HJ3JZ7fclKHOTvlhL5M3UTA/8bANLERzNvic9Ws1 j3ATFM7gSL5d81vSzULdqYh6ngz+vsvgswYHM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3436C9.6070208@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> <4D3436C9.6070208@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:39:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Andy and anyone else, One reason people are so obsessed w/ iOS is that the products, both software and hardware, are shipping now. While the Android community is certainly working hard at it, the hardware options are much slimmer when you consider that there isn't much to choose from OTHER than Android PHONES. And the peripheral hardware developers have been all over the iOS hardware much more than they have been looking at Android hardware. The iPod Touch isn't a phone (tho' with Skype it makes a damned good substitute; used mine more in Europe than I did my T-Mob Android G1 phone!) and as a result there is no cost penalty in having one just for music purposes. Yes, there are hacking opportunities for the Android environment from the software side, but you basically have to start with a phone from the hardware side. The Samsung Galaxy Tablet offers the most potential for this kind of thing, as it's form-factor is VERY compatible for a physical interface/controller...but it's not cheap and you pretty much have to buy it as a phone here in the States. iOS=NOT ANOTHER PHONE (iPOD) ANdroid=Pretty much ONLY a phone (Maybe a Galaxy Tablet, but twice the price of NEW iPod Touch!) Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:32 AM, andy butler wrote: > Has anyone considered the alternatives to the Apple product? > > The Android OS is (i think) Linux based, and there's people working on low > latency audio for it. > > Aren't there also various options for hacking too? > Apple and M$ will never produce low latency. > > Just wondering why everyone's so i-obsessed > andy > > buzap@gmx.net wrote: >> >> Hi folks >> >> I was wondering: >> I don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch just >> to have a portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, VoiceJam)? >> >> This would give me more portability than the RC-2. >> Would like to hear your experience! >> >> Buzap > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 15:18:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5ED6718345D; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=loSI8d2tHhf8hirPHTL+F5DEulYn1P4pLTS6Phsc0K0=; b=aE4gDTkUg5VTv7x4n8lgDDtyDB9isi+K5KqMQWtn04Geem27kMpmxj2jSqhV+DpYii IUgrOuZaGH4MP5COnApktmiSR8DJPYSU1FoXT/wNnr1GaiwdBld+N4bg/Q1cN8kgqGsa OfaWfPXDELqPYfz7DUXAPNwJtYW/6ElGqpQkM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qIKcf/hZDS2j/dMbuQVF+HHpCh/x+LvbacBiqUA6Z52CuIvLGOEJjJ6fUzVyP3c/Kg +Rjl4yhGbuumKEPO1fyVRSQXRVe/NFGTcdbTSC7oxIvDfeJif+noOvcMxHT6graGSDoR tdGSCnEHyRv4PhwhleTQVCxcgy8i2C0WG9r1o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:18:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: strymon el capistan delay pedal-(sound on sound loop mode like a tape loop) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1XVPeC.A.KFD.h3FNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:18:57 +0000 (UTC) the eventide timeafactor does this as well really cool! Luis On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Wow Scott, that's an insanely cool looper! Like having the Augustus > Loop plugin inside a box. I would buy this looper if laptops would not > be available. These kind of "warble/wobble/flutter" processings are my > fav and I always keep "tape speed tilt" on a foot pedal. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Scott Hansen wrote: >> from folks posting stuff about namm, i saw this on the strymon site: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n29OncKKC8&feature=player_embedded >> >> i know there had been lots of talk about this pedal on The Gear Page, but i >> never read it. >> the video looks very interesting. >> >> here's what their webpage says about this: >> Sound on Sound >> Just like one of our favorite moving head tape echo machines, El Capistan >> gives you a Sound on Sound mode, but with some cool new features. When you >> enter the mode (Single Tape Head, Mode C), the machine is already recording, >> just like a traditional tape echo machine. We go several steps further by >> giving you instant tape splice and bulk erase functions. It's like having a >> built-in tape-style looper! >> >> To set the length of your tape, press Tap once to set your splice 'in' >> point, and press Tap again to set your splice 'out' point. All of the tone >> shaping knobs are active and affect your loop as it plays back and >> re-records. Press Tap a third time to completely erase the tape. You get 20 >> seconds of tape in slow speed, 10 seconds in fast speed. Check out our video >> demo below. >> >> if this is a repeat, please forgive...looks interesting for short loop >> options. >> s--- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 15:28:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FEC318345F; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MnMVtd1IbFw4mlm1+J5LGXLB9kQBQ0iB9P/Ie/U3gPw=; b=ar8k5yGn47/RAdHHgPiR2sCA01+lbANeXYuJP5wI5J9M2+NXUHog/QKi6rqFarfaNA 92chihEnjJZBf50Q0DHW1dRewvMxvcQ4fNjWILxwq21+9BhPDGVpiqUlj2mgFTdbDyL0 PTonfPi2lbAMHX8i1EoEoC4oSvQU/tUPBvadg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w8+vXmtqLCtRB40MMaTb0U2I/kRS/FJ4FQtru7/a8shSYluYhyLBjE6j+/0fFjrp6y dhukcu2NT/0NCFG1+MVEuV25q2JjJqlWuE0lsJhh/zCbIMJEwDPgTWy+s8NfyK0ZrVZF NPYWo/WBKuLG1uwmRz+d89hcxK6CVa8QJx3go= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:28:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: strymon el capistan delay pedal-(sound on sound loop mode like a tape loop) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <8bBirD.A.diD.yAGNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:28:50 +0000 (UTC) That's what you would expect from Eventide! The GR-55 has global effects that can as well be used on the guitar's analog output signal, but I don't know if it has any tape delay style effect? Here's a good write-up on the GR-55 BTW http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/for-the-digital-guitarist-a-roland-synth-and-processor-in-one-box/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+createdigitalmusic+%28createdigitalmusic.com%29&utm_content=Bloglines best Per On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > the eventide timeafactor does this as well really cool! > Luis > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Wow Scott, that's an insanely cool looper! Like having the Augustus >> Loop plugin inside a box. I would buy this looper if laptops would not >> be available. These kind of "warble/wobble/flutter" processings are my >> fav and I always keep "tape speed tilt" on a foot pedal. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Scott Hansen wrote: >>> from folks posting stuff about namm, i saw this on the strymon site: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n29OncKKC8&feature=player_embedded >>> >>> i know there had been lots of talk about this pedal on The Gear Page, but i >>> never read it. >>> the video looks very interesting. >>> >>> here's what their webpage says about this: >>> Sound on Sound >>> Just like one of our favorite moving head tape echo machines, El Capistan >>> gives you a Sound on Sound mode, but with some cool new features. When you >>> enter the mode (Single Tape Head, Mode C), the machine is already recording, >>> just like a traditional tape echo machine. We go several steps further by >>> giving you instant tape splice and bulk erase functions. It's like having a >>> built-in tape-style looper! >>> >>> To set the length of your tape, press Tap once to set your splice 'in' >>> point, and press Tap again to set your splice 'out' point. All of the tone >>> shaping knobs are active and affect your loop as it plays back and >>> re-records. Press Tap a third time to completely erase the tape. You get 20 >>> seconds of tape in slow speed, 10 seconds in fast speed. Check out our video >>> demo below. >>> >>> if this is a repeat, please forgive...looks interesting for short loop >>> options. >>> s--- >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 15:46:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3BD118345D; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:46:08 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:46:14 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 15, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do I = stop getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;-) I may need to further emphasize the emoticons. Thank you to everyone who = assured me I wouldn't be kicked out of the community. The spark for the message was the combined events of watching another = round of concern over lack of "core looping features" like feedback from = the new crop of looping pedals or looping features in other pedals and = observing how, despite several sophisticated loopers, I seemed to be = using the technology these days. So, yes, the specs for Roland's equipment and the devices being produced = by others are probably largely driven by people looking to do = one-man-band things where the looper just provides the backing. But as = it ends up, despite a long history pushing loopers more heavily -- and I = went back yesterday and started listening to some of my archive of = recordings -- I very frequently just build up a moderately interesting = loop and let it play which really isn't all that different from the = one-man-bad types (except that my loops are probably more swirly, = ambienty, etc). The potentially interesting insight for me that comes out of this is = that I should figure out how to get equipment to support what I seem to = want to do rather than what I feel I ought to be doing. On the other = hand, I should also figure out whether there's a technological reason = I've moved away from more complex loop structures and if so whether it's = worth trying to find a technological solution to move back towards them. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 16:24:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C797183459; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 566867756/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.17.225/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.17.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsBACr8M01YbRHh/2dsb2JhbAAMli+XMrg9hVAEjjc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,333,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="566867756" Message-ID: <4D346D5B.2080201@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:24:59 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Source for replacement switches for fcb1010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Found this on my travels looking for a different part:- http://pms-electronics.com/shop1/oxid.php/sid/92d81f471665318b80db0412b4025793/cl/details/anid/44076964b6f860.98562451/SW%3ATACTILE%3BPOL%3A1%3BHEIGHT%3A4mm3%3BA03B02//listtype/search/searchparam/887-43811-03768 (from Germany) those are exact replacements for the footswitches which fail on the fcb1010. Don't know how easy the replacement is, I'd guess if you were techie enough to own a solder sucker it'd be do-able. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 16:43:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02CE418345C; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5MsGRl+GEHAOySB+p3B8LOOP/l9TiKpl6hCFQLXewdY=; b=U08HTF/tvLF9ZRtp523i62K4XSMnSL47mjm173lajnV+qFe7R5IGXDGEPwp4/Cfn4I Z0cI6p1n7lznqfk37SMCSVakGfLIVNBX+UI4uiIbByomOD4+iUtE3cZsecfLVJdx0Qz5 krRYpLEbMfIPoiOyNxLiX1BDibje3Hh4/ctAo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=l7X2V+zEck7yH6EC3KbWrB+Uy2Up5S3qA050nKokaHf4oEQTjhdSOCuLawC9VjSQ6Q gx9axun1bR6Yf0Uqn5xC9b09CA/ySb4AnbtXKMbfP9dYyzJuwlT3nZJfuZE02nYMuY4o yi1S1YG74IYvnkwI8qGN8W9m4d0hcm8vvOkU8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:43:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: self-promotion - new album From: james fowler To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56aa4266bba049a0d7d7c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:43:54 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd56aa4266bba049a0d7d7c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://theforms.tripledownrecords.com/ there's a bit of (non-obvious) looping...plus piles of sampling and drum loops and all kinds of nerdy musician stuff that we all love. along with plenty of good old fashioned performance. - jim --000e0cd56aa4266bba049a0d7d7c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://theforms.tripledo= wnrecords.com/

there's a bit of (non-obvious) looping...plus= piles of sampling and drum loops and all kinds of nerdy musician stuff tha= t we all love.=A0 along with plenty of good old fashioned performance.

- jim
--000e0cd56aa4266bba049a0d7d7c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 16:50:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 686C1183459; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 220474.86063.bm@omp1034.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1295283033; bh=ihD8B0YCODMzspG94Ud5GX6nFjINGrP2h2WXBoiMIN0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z+Tsk2Nll1GZYnFuA7aUKYjJ/mHCHzcS5SQHT5uFT4c6JGIBuKR2LARMB4aID8pSaGtFITz2KScBSE1SS6GXx6DMQCw9dyUVF24zhXM80pfR1ycVQT6poRpAXW01v3dnqCyFGnIjaszCr1NURfca+ft95xC0DaqbH8uUftP/sOg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1uqZVd++nsoDuzdiXFi3GrF+mIjuJDHCWVoty8bnKzRjTideTgsLPE0i/HXnsWB2p8AxZX01u1LHNdDslBHg7VrWTwFc8xnHUfE0FD1XssDRSXrJwk9Vs/6dIVOwMURaGqzk65cWbmtjZY5fLT6MtSD6uewNUX21427H3y1fESY=; Message-ID: <67050.92094.qm@web45906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: iHD8qv4VM1kyLDbHgTczr7NSB_6IX36k4FvEBUOvUsTfi2y tje4Y6fWCXXbfWvrwcDuGBUUZtuGM.c31e5Zm_3zJDw2Qb32hs9gVIDdlqkv Z9S71lMKl.qc1s5Bjphovh2n03KyhFdyypfeKSyeo3vDPn.5uuSrLd3xrQpx wrUzjZslcC_T0KytSGKMNHrLdfVA4D4YWndD_tYqLmiQgiEl.yU9S3WQGGwx cXqmAOODiiM.vezkJS2PQh9V5cBm7wzkyKulm31MfvCx3lGFrtcGJzFsW6Q- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:50:32 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-892207782-1295283032=:92094" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:50:34 +0000 (UTC) --0-892207782-1295283032=:92094 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ha! Just last night I had my son show me his iPod touch so I can see how it= =0Aworks and whether it would be worth it. I think I will be getting one, = for the =0Aprice and the available music apps I think it is worthwhile. Mos= tly thinking of =0Ausing it to add some synth sounds to my hardware-based= =A0loops....=0A=0AEric=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: = "buzap@gmx.net" =0ATo: LD LoopersDelight =0ASent: Mon, January 17, 2011 5:38:43 AM=0ASubject: Wort= h getting iPod touch for Live Looping only?=0A=0AHi folks=0A=0AI was wonder= ing:=0AI don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch = just to have =0Aa portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, Vo= iceJam)?=0A=0AThis would give me more portability than the RC-2.=0AWould li= ke to hear your experience!=0A=0ABuzap=0A-- =0ANEU: FreePhone - kostenlos m= obil telefonieren und surfen!=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0AJetzt informi= eren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone=0A=0A=0A --0-892207782-1295283032=:92094 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ha! Just last night I had my son show me his iPod touc= h so I can see how it works and whether it would be worth it. I think I wil= l be getting one, for the price and the available music apps I think it is = worthwhile. Mostly thinking of using it to add some synth sounds to my hard= ware-based loops....
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To: LD LoopersDelight= <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 5:38:43 AM
Subject: Worth getting iPod touch for L= ive Looping only?

Hi folks

I was wondering:
I don't= need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch just to have a= portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, VoiceJam)?

T= his would give me more portability than the RC-2.
Would like to hear you= r experience!

Buzap
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=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-892207782-1295283032=:92094-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 17:01:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63EA318345F; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=jLiiDHrMoGg5nI5wGY83tldF7xvz1tLlgYwzL0iafdk=; b=g4s63F20496ofg8WCMNocL1+X6y9m92DCjG+eLFw+yldbEkaC7oZbfaq7K587uy/Xz rjo2m5e0j0J58ewTcHlE2QaWJVLHWje0uVCuXOWkrrHAvgfE3rSnjEf6x+vwrmDizyOk SP2dQVSa4Jq0A0HSvIW/Z720UJ+uweekTMUvw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=xA6ybY5ajuRR7TENLdg7NJDvmVfVCcwNnHJ9PMFBBmxp5vv3xHBx6MT9Ng9aHeDLTd x85deqWjW7s6KTTSmCX7oOYf5/ELM943aAXL/Oo7nyWNVWNFwo3s48jNQaNci/J5HP4U 42z1UVz03bDf1Qs/rIxgyVrExtqyU3RSn45OU= From: "Bruno E. Kleinefeld" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--851123650 Subject: Re: strymon el capistan delay pedal-(sound on sound loop mode like a tape loop) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:00:56 +0100 Message-Id: <3B0435F3-5D8E-4E17-AF44-D6C729C40EFF@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:01:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--851123650 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have (from not so many days) a Strymon El Capistan and I am totally = conquered from the musical quality of this object. Looks like Strymon is really pushing the quality of digital processing a = step beyond. The "looping" opportunities offered by the El Capistan are - of course - = limited to what you can see on that video, not much more. On the other hand I am really curious of what the new Strymon Timeline - = that has a looping dedicated function =E0 la DL4 (I guess) - can do. On HC someone wrote ""Do you guys know what granular synthesis is? Where audio is chopped up = into "chunks" and processed separately? It can do that... and you can = adjust the "size" of the chunks, the pitch shifting on them - loads of = stuff. If you like unusual sounds, you're going to love the Timeline. It = does normal delays too - tape, analog, etc. - but a lot more besides..." =46rom Phil on harmony-central" This, combined with the possibility of using the delay functions and the = looper altogether makes me very curious about that tool. Even if infos = are still very generic. Here a first short demo, fyi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXibpY_bxbKs&feature=3Dplayer_embedded b:k > That's what you would expect from Eventide! The GR-55 has global > effects that can as well be used on the guitar's analog output signal, > but I don't know if it has any tape delay style effect? >=20 > Here's a good write-up on the GR-55 BTW > = http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/for-the-digital-guitarist-a-roland-s= ynth-and-processor-in-one-box/?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Dfeed&u= tm_campaign=3DFeed%3A+createdigitalmusic+%28createdigitalmusic.com%29&utm_= content=3DBloglines >=20 > best > Per >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> the eventide timeafactor does this as well really cool! >> Luis >>=20 >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Per Boysen = wrote: >>> Wow Scott, that's an insanely cool looper! Like having the Augustus >>> Loop plugin inside a box. I would buy this looper if laptops would = not >>> be available. These kind of "warble/wobble/flutter" processings are = my >>> fav and I always keep "tape speed tilt" on a foot pedal. >>>=20 >>> Greetings from Sweden >>>=20 >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >>> www.looproom.com internet music hub >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Scott Hansen = wrote: >>>> from folks posting stuff about namm, i saw this on the strymon = site: >>>>=20 >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_n29OncKKC8&feature=3Dplayer_embedde= d >>>>=20 >>>> i know there had been lots of talk about this pedal on The Gear = Page, but i >>>> never read it. >>>> the video looks very interesting. >>>>=20 >>>> here's what their webpage says about this: >>>> Sound on Sound >>>> Just like one of our favorite moving head tape echo machines, El = Capistan >>>> gives you a Sound on Sound mode, but with some cool new features. = When you >>>> enter the mode (Single Tape Head, Mode C), the machine is already = recording, >>>> just like a traditional tape echo machine. We go several steps = further by >>>> giving you instant tape splice and bulk erase functions. It's like = having a >>>> built-in tape-style looper! >>>>=20 >>>> To set the length of your tape, press Tap once to set your splice = 'in' >>>> point, and press Tap again to set your splice 'out' point. All of = the tone >>>> shaping knobs are active and affect your loop as it plays back and >>>> re-records. Press Tap a third time to completely erase the tape. = You get 20 >>>> seconds of tape in slow speed, 10 seconds in fast speed. Check out = our video >>>> demo below. >>>>=20 >>>> if this is a repeat, please forgive...looks interesting for short = loop >>>> options. >>>> s--- >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-3--851123650 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

On the other hand = I am really curious of what the new Strymon Timeline - that has a = looping dedicated function =E0 la DL4 (I guess) - can do.
On = HC someone wrote

""Do you guys know what granular synthesis is? Where audio is = chopped up into "chunks" and processed separately? It can do that... and = you can adjust the "size" of the chunks, the pitch shifting on them - = loads of stuff. If you like unusual sounds, you're going to love the = Timeline. It does normal delays too - tape, analog, etc. - but a lot = more besides..."
=46rom Phil on = harmony-central"

This, combined = with the possibility of using the delay functions and the looper = altogether makes me very curious about that tool. Even if infos are = still very generic.

Here a first short demo, = fyi

b:k


<= /div>

That's what you would = expect from Eventide! The GR-55 has global
effects that can as well = be used on the guitar's analog output signal,
but I don't know if it = has any tape delay style effect?

Here's a good write-up on the = GR-55 BTW
http://createdigitalmusic.com/201= 1/01/for-the-digital-guitarist-a-roland-synth-and-processor-in-one-box/?ut= m_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Dfeed&utm_campaign=3DFeed%3A+cre= atedigitalmusic+%28createdigitalmusic.com%29&utm_content=3DBloglines

best
Per


On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Louie = Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
the eventide timeafactor does = this as well really cool!
Luis

On Mon, Jan 17, = 2011 at 11:24 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:
Wow Scott, that's an insanely cool looper! Like having the = Augustus
Loop plugin inside a box. I = would buy this looper if laptops would = not
be available. These kind of "warble/wobble/flutter" = processings are my
fav and I always keep "tape = speed tilt" on a foot pedal.

Greetings from = Sweden

Per = Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
<= /blockquote>
www.looproom.com internet = music hub



On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:33 AM, = Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> = wrote:
from folks posting stuff about = namm, i saw this on the strymon = site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_n29OncKKC8&feature=3Dplaye= r_embedded

i know = there had been lots of talk about this pedal on The Gear Page, but = i
never = read it.
the = video looks very = interesting.

here's = what their webpage says about = this:
Sound = on Sound
Just = like one of our favorite moving head tape echo machines, El = Capistan
gives = you a Sound on Sound mode, but with some cool new features. When = you
enter = the mode (Single Tape Head, Mode C), the machine is already = recording,
just = like a traditional tape echo machine. We go several steps further = by
giving = you instant tape splice and bulk erase functions. It's like having = a
built-in= tape-style = looper!

To set = the length of your tape, press Tap once to set your splice = 'in'
point, = and press Tap again to set your splice 'out' point. All of the = tone
shaping = knobs are active and affect your loop as it plays back = and
re-records. Press Tap a third time to completely erase the = tape. You get 20
seconds = of tape in slow speed, 10 seconds in fast speed. Check out our = video
demo = below.

if = this is a repeat, please forgive...looks interesting for short = loop
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= --Apple-Mail-3--851123650-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 17:07:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF75218345B; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NVQObbwWYWD7QCQYfRdQFpKDx93j3bwITbr8ptAaFXQ=; b=XbD3RMlOJDfpz/+xqXT8qJafWXGY0Dk4+9RjtMT8qmjtHjHQyhBseotdq6r6hWJtwC RHZnqY27M3ZY+XczQ3KpdQvncdKcY+mxzHSL/H0JGGHEossH41Gq9namn4VA8v0gwhF+ G+zk5TzfUni0nOwAUiIZy4q5wE7r0kcES+ovM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ip436aFa8tbYMNUgUiCBqJkXTqKpq3IBWFGgl2bVWTECLhm8vjOK8qOzkY6PHC4iWk t0FRXU3PxAkDpvRZPUheIc7Gz0OeVucG8x08+nFJM1YktYyy3az9UMNTsNpkqHSyDNvK qbUigSSz1/WI3EQqOZNwilgXRWPM7PcSnfOPA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <67050.92094.qm@web45906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> <67050.92094.qm@web45906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:06:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Glad to hear it, Eric! I highly recommend ThumbJam and MorphWiz for the Tou= ch! The point is to stop thinking about them for use in their "original" conception. I don't NEED another MP3 player...so the last thing I'm using my PodTouch for is actually listening to recorded music. The same goes for computers...netbooks make great little dedicated machines for music. Photographers figured this out years ago, with Kodak films...The Great Yellow Father would print ridiculous warnings about how to use their film, when the REAL fun started by using it experimentally in direct disregard of said warnings. I like to think that most of us on here are doing the same thing with all of gear, both software and hardware. Best, Denis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:50 AM, E Gross wrote: > Ha! Just last night I had my son show me his iPod touch so I can see how = it > works and whether it would be worth it. I think I will be getting one, fo= r > the price and the available music apps I think it is worthwhile. Mostly > thinking of using it to add some synth sounds to my hardware-based=A0loop= s.... > > Eric > ________________________________ > From: "buzap@gmx.net" > To: LD LoopersDelight > Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 5:38:43 AM > Subject: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? > > Hi folks > > I was wondering: > I don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch just = to > have a portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, VoiceJam)? > > This would give me more portability than the RC-2. > Would like to hear your experience! > > Buzap > -- > NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 17:08:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9900C183474; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: <4D345243.9010903@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D345243.9010903@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <9DEC1EAA-AA00-4F52-A072-0BF980788661@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:07:27 -0500 Thread-Topic: LP2 at namm Thread-Index: Acu2aR+JT9zVXJetRmy2Jla1TzUmdQ== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2011 17:08:13.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[2049F450:01CBB669] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:08:15 +0000 (UTC) I liked playing around with it, my only two points were that it would be nic= e to know what effect is armed, and the effects work on the whole set of pri= mary loop and overdubs, which is a bit foriegn to me, but I'm used to the LP= 1.=20 By the way, chatter from bob at the show was he will be putting some time on= the LP1 this year, woo hoo!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:29 AM, andy butler wrote: >=20 >=20 > Matt Davignon wrote: >> The effects look like looping-related commands. >> I don't know what the "retrigger" or "replace" ones do. It looks like >> you can assign the above effects to 2 footswitches. >=20 >=20 > I've discussed those briefly with Rick, and plus a bit of speculation. >=20 > Replace 1/x is a direct emulation of a certain specific edp behaviour, > (also present on LP1). > It replaces a single quantised chunk of the loop with input audio. > In EDPish it's a "Shortpress of Quantised 8th Replace". >=20 > I'm quite excited by that, while that effect has been around since > 2003 it's was always somewhat hidden away in the more expensive products. > If it catches on it could open up a lot of interest in the whole > "looper as instrument" idea. >=20 > I guess the vanilla Replace would be unquantised momentary > (replace for as long as button is held) > In that case, it's possible that quantised replaces will also > cut out larger chunks if held for longer (but=20 > Retrigger is more or less what's offered by the DL4 > Retrigger Once. Play the loop once from beginning then stop. > Continue. Retrigger Continuous. Retrigger loop from beginning and keep goi= ng.=20 > Retrigger Random. Jump to a random point in the loop. > The Random Retrigger is intended to be used rhythmically, > I guess the loop would be filled with a variety of > sounds (with slow attacks) so that rapid operation of the randtrig > produced a well defined beat. > Again, that's a very "looper as instrument" type feature. >=20 >=20 > I don't think it's been pointed out yet that the LP2 > has a Mix control (back panel) which, unusually for a small looper, makes i= t suitable for use on an Aux send. >=20 > andy butler >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 17:20:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80E82183480; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1295284846; bh=SXS88uhQeTtf+ukCMmGdIrMzgbc7ImDk4CFNfhbjyws=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V3X0V3spw0MocNEk56tHvO9RIktWdCf9c6cQd1pPYwunl9gblINolRucJ580eCPB2dYIWqeZYOx9Of85KzhMqbNouDtsHObwGnisgXGt8jZXZp/w4E+x/7mRwZHrOfW4aikrz5TnPOIVw+MrN0tsR1n7CFGU1nSN+bpTTVmY1ZU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HVWV71HcG63SsDoveMJw1UvpwCLcv+A+2mFsDxXdxe9WjEAxiE8ix7UDX5KY/bDCSYMsdzZCB3epZjXWt6OnG73bjCe37z9ZeDCv1x1R3+TK8Ysdb94HoOb/E4wB8Sgw6Hutq/YEmX5w6DDXjGCXFRPmvilg31XO6EtLyL3Putg=; Message-ID: <644191.42231.qm@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qErQoaoVM1lt72vrN6tv5Lsiz430pxRlzBa5AFM2XmEhXir al5xpAGem5_vkzaWCBJBr1PrtE4zrvJLHMHUnHmaKSYR0183gElzxRR2PLIV Bq3Oipl7KSy4LN2IvdugQpMqQ_qABKuhLOQoO.l31CbaJcHs2lmKUz49R5yP NcwKDBnmz.uV4bQ2aaqUlnCFsNDeDRJ3BhHIr9FARojsejzu1X7DFTIN_.PJ MKwGnGklEbr.TZqMHpkbxwB_Ttb1M7Vcb1Bil0194SloDC_LG9uBBo3cuAfq FNmHOr5sZEBexe04A6kOB7vpdRTq9a5ya.OHB7pHhV4IolpA5uhRAIbpb6.R 7A2LrX01EmbFWyDmakl2l0.Y3boj7zt5RWpgyfQjWLKSlnTEp4XpZB9bicdA - X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:20:46 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2BB33E4A-00A0-4D42-A477-1CCC28A45778@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, I live in a cultural backwater too, (first, Lewis county, WA, now, Benton = county, WA). Where's yours? --- On Sun, 1/16/11, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn > Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 4:36 PM > Hi there Mark, >=20 > Well if you were just playing to mere canned backing tracks > (sort of in in effect a instrumental "guitar karaoke" thing) > and doing covers of of other peoples' boring pop songs you > might get a ribbing or two from some folks here. >=20 > But the conceptual use of looping as "backing tracks for > something else doesn't bother me at all. >=20 > I've been on the list since early October of '96 (it began > only a couple of months before that in June or July). >=20 > And while I have heard some people express minor > disappointment from time to time here that so-and-so used > "canned" loops as opposed to "real" live looping, it hasn't, > as far as I know, really been a major axe to grind for > hardly anybody. >=20 > I've been doing live tape-loop, analog and digitalL looping > a long, long time. >=20 > But I have also been involved in so-called avant-garde > music longer than I have ever been doing "normal" music. >=20 > In modern "art music" the concept of "music concrete" has > enjoyed a long and wholly accepted tradition. >=20 > And, a little closer to mainstream, a good deal of Pink > Floyd's recordings and performances would not be what they > were if not for generous use of all sorts of pre-recorded > material (most of which along the lines of "music concrete" > or ambient/environmental sounds, or the signature cash > register sounds of "Money"). >=20 > At some point in the mid '80s I thought it would be cool to > acquire a Roland sampling keyboard (even though I'm the > worst keyboardist in the world) simply so I could perform > with some longish canned loop samples from from various > sources - along with my "live" looping. >=20 > I've been doing it all along. >=20 > After the arrival on the marketplace of various kinds of > desktop "phrase" or "groove" sample players=A0 (first > from Akai then from Roland) I switched from the awkward > keyboard hardware to that format to augment my live > looping. >=20 > I never hid it, and I even sometimes brought that sort of > setup to some of the early Y2K fests with no complaints from > Rick. >=20 > Though I have largely NOT used canned loops for the past > few years, I am about to begin doing it again in my MaxMSP > laptop setup. >=20 > I have an eight track sample player in my new rig that can > link to a folder with literally hundreds and hundreds of > sound files in it and automatically pick and play a new > random sound file every few seconds . . . or every tiny > fraction of a second if I so chose. >=20 > I have all sorts of other controls over that content too, > but that's beside the point. >=20 > Is it "music" . . . ? >=20 > Is it "live looping" . . . ? >=20 > Am I playing it like an instrument . . ? >=20 > I don't know but I sure the heck like mucking around with > it and will continue to do so. >=20 > And let's face it, I (like yourself) am a guitar player. >=20 > Most of what I do with loops (canned or live) is to create > a "context" for my primary mode of self-expression on my > primary instrument. >=20 > I use and have always used those tools as "backing tracks" > for my guitar playing when other "contexts" (a band of other > musicians say) has not been available, or capable of > providing a compatible one for me. >=20 > Though I like to perform with others (it does get lonely > sometimes when you live in a cultural backwater) and will > ditch the loops and do so at almost any opportunity that > presents itself, I've always rather enjoyed being > self-sufficient too. >=20 > I have never been ashamed of that. >=20 > I don't lay in my bed at night dreaming of different new > ways to push buttons, and what those button pushes might > do. >=20 > What I dream, if my dreams are musical at all, is about > stuff I might play on the guitar. >=20 > If folks have a problem with that, it's their problem, not > mine. >=20 > The Keller Williams mode of doing live looping is fine. >=20 > The "looper as another instrument itself" mode of thinking > and working is just fine too. >=20 > But I'm with you on this (I think), I'm not really "there" > in either of those ways of thinking about looping. >=20 > And I am certainly not "there" in being a purist as to > what's live or not or what is a better way than another way > or not. >=20 > Musically, it's all just stuff. >=20 > We do what we do. >=20 > Hopefully we'll keep doing it a little longer before the > universe tells us to pack it in. >=20 > The point is, do you enjoy it? >=20 > Does it make your soul soar? >=20 > Anything that doesn't is a distraction or a waste of time. >=20 > Do what works for you, don't be ashamed of it or feel like > you must make excuses for it. >=20 > Life's too short. >=20 > Tell the critics to get stuffed. >=20 > :-) >=20 > Ted >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 17:24:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 328F4183488; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 156553.25008.bm@omp1003.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1295285068; bh=1KkDAfAVMsYt6HKwrBQoE1bpeFK0HOv6Wegxpo0uKQQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NXdzWfscEvbUZWFse81M25tdOlt+38xdUhSna6RXtc4EEhP5YJsrMuZ4G0Sm8f1Yy4kCQqkTaMNCthy0rMCBuv/o0msgBVDO1oLYwhFFjPPhm0o/W+Yt82d1abFsmNakTrgIgZIruXSSRyCNrsn054rs+bNzRX80rLKEDyiX17Y= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S+XQ/fay1XphOG/JET3Dtvi8WD9T/e3ZrkqeGZxCLP83cZ5DMgIUB+Y3GZQOhfcftDk6DYAQ+32JOv95JUTzcus7/PBzGv4E6T3XUfCDKQGSGiipMQg14IsBeSOid47qhqB5jH2Kruqh7xOvCc26ykCjZ0nV1PnSMC8IRtRH33E=; Message-ID: <660780.18891.qm@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: F3OhLr0VM1n6PccE758F5V0ocxAL9PKv3j4dK.H_VBnzbAK m32oG6xAKB88MqcNwZeeT3D9aPJjTQ5fjSnNMeVf3iZxdEHuSD4rQ9zMmMps VIP47Dx6pcmXSF1gPtdQL01gYn3EAx5h7MBkxaepGdu_k9bwvEyZp0RH3T02 1Md4QdZ_AFI2_76fSWoyJ1bD1CkvB0eNhqGY3mbQn7WbRUjdljSTXy_PIm1K UztFEzS1SfvOg.IPdhx2EH9xUc_g4aiA2UiE7mK7wIxWKJ5n8x.NAeR38ciO NF5vfogTXU9JJzC6QSJCINeQudyecK6nuhTuUzYQkp1ulRrVJPnebvFXshBA EQlq3I.2YPKsuYSseX7w- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:24:28 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Scott Subject: Re: Source for replacement switches for fcb1010 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D346D5B.2080201@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-301451990-1295285068=:18891" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:24:30 +0000 (UTC) --0-301451990-1295285068=:18891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Andy, That's a useful resource, could come in handy one day, I'll bookmark it.=A0= =20 Shame they don't seem to stock the light sensitive component that has faile= d in your FCB1010.=A0 AS I said before though, that wouldn't stop me buying= it off you for =A330. By the way, I own 2 solder suckers! Regards, Stephen --- On Mon, 1/17/11, andy butler wrote: From: andy butler Subject: Source for replacement switches for fcb1010 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 4:24 PM Found this on my travels looking for a different part:- http://pms-electronics.com/shop1/oxid.php/sid/92d81f471665318b80db0412b4025= 793/cl/details/anid/44076964b6f860.98562451/SW%3ATACTILE%3BPOL%3A1%3BHEIGHT= %3A4mm3%3BA03B02//listtype/search/searchparam/887-43811-03768 (from Germany) those are exact replacements for the footswitches which fail on the fcb1010. Don't know how easy the replacement is, I'd guess if you were techie enough to own a solder sucker it'd be do-able. andy butler =0A=0A=0A --0-301451990-1295285068=:18891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-301451990-1295285068=:18891-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 17:37:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6656E183460; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pMUOWdwgKs8No61JMk7R2CqfLWLp5g8XGkxDek+Vuec=; b=FVeGmzMD0InHmQYTz1iZOU9F9qbQ3SzA6LLpLZxpObkmL/XlgvkC/BUIV2ZaYxcbw6 u6ddVCF56w9v2mezsn8LBfaeiek1vWUPUq72Jlhy31CYdKyX5TAFVx37v93nI/Ren7t8 ivWVedYoRWJ+oFpyeSUJ4WgJimJIP21APCSlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O12o95ZDyQukwkIt1uCoSfZIah0CAZcqjtEme800RtKev806+IfoXP4DSHwX8a6gsa 8JbnLnt5zlvujKsj4cIixI1OJf3cqe1pZSBtLFVBGrnW++dLZVhz9cEpM9aFyH0Rg+Ph PGHV2WnG0AJe19H/+wvLHLrQBe6h7E/+O07+M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <644191.42231.qm@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <2BB33E4A-00A0-4D42-A477-1CCC28A45778@charter.net> <644191.42231.qm@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:35:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:37:42 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 6:20 PM, bill bigrig wrote: > I live in a cultural backwater too, (first, Lewis county, WA, now, Benton= county, WA). Where's yours? > > --- On Sun, 1/16/11, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrote: > >> From: tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn >> Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 4:36 PM > You guys could start the band "Backwater Boys" !!! At least virtually... :-) The looping community has too few virtual bands. "The Bernhard's" being my favorite so far, a mighty virtual power trio! (spawned at Z=C3=BCrich Loopfest afterparty 2005, yet to reach its bloom) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 18:10:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F75218345E; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=U1tO6MzBVDUJuvzE7JYA:9 a=5KEUqEuywe9A24CAeaEA:7 a=4TkSXE0g49wpF8LFv21YWdYzeusA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:10:02 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <698502906.4767163.1295287802975.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 46 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Medford, OR. Sometimes called Deadford (or Dreadford), Oregon (neither one in=20 reference to an defunct rock band or a reagge hairstyle) Occasionally also reffered to as Mediocreville, Mudburg, or Mid-fraud*,=20 Oregon [*For all the local good-ole-boy politicians and conmen (or am I being=20 redundant?).] Nothing good ever happens in Meford. Ted On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:20 AM, bill bigrig wrote: > Howdy, > > I live in a cultural backwater too, (first, Lewis county, WA, now,=20 > Benton county, WA). Where's yours? > > --- On Sun, 1/16/11, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrote: > >> From: tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn >> Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 4:36 PM >> Hi there Mark, >> >> Well if you were just playing to mere canned backing tracks >> (sort of in in effect a instrumental "guitar karaoke" thing) >> and doing covers of of other peoples' boring pop songs you >> might get a ribbing or two from some folks here. >> >> But the conceptual use of looping as "backing tracks for >> something else doesn't bother me at all. >> >> I've been on the list since early October of '96 (it began >> only a couple of months before that in June or July). >> >> And while I have heard some people express minor >> disappointment from time to time here that so-and-so used >> "canned" loops as opposed to "real" live looping, it hasn't, >> as far as I know, really been a major axe to grind for >> hardly anybody. >> >> I've been doing live tape-loop, analog and digitalL looping >> a long, long time. >> >> But I have also been involved in so-called avant-garde >> music longer than I have ever been doing "normal" music. >> >> In modern "art music" the concept of "music concrete" has >> enjoyed a long and wholly accepted tradition. >> >> And, a little closer to mainstream, a good deal of Pink >> Floyd's recordings and performances would not be what they >> were if not for generous use of all sorts of pre-recorded >> material (most of which along the lines of "music concrete" >> or ambient/environmental sounds, or the signature cash >> register sounds of "Money"). >> >> At some point in the mid '80s I thought it would be cool to >> acquire a Roland sampling keyboard (even though I'm the >> worst keyboardist in the world) simply so I could perform >> with some longish canned loop samples from from various >> sources - along with my "live" looping. >> >> I've been doing it all along. >> >> After the arrival on the marketplace of various kinds of >> desktop "phrase" or "groove" sample players=C2=A0 (first >> from Akai then from Roland) I switched from the awkward >> keyboard hardware to that format to augment my live >> looping. >> >> I never hid it, and I even sometimes brought that sort of >> setup to some of the early Y2K fests with no complaints from >> Rick. >> >> Though I have largely NOT used canned loops for the past >> few years, I am about to begin doing it again in my MaxMSP >> laptop setup. >> >> I have an eight track sample player in my new rig that can >> link to a folder with literally hundreds and hundreds of >> sound files in it and automatically pick and play a new >> random sound file every few seconds . . . or every tiny >> fraction of a second if I so chose. >> >> I have all sorts of other controls over that content too, >> but that's beside the point. >> >> Is it "music" . . . ? >> >> Is it "live looping" . . . ? >> >> Am I playing it like an instrument . . ? >> >> I don't know but I sure the heck like mucking around with >> it and will continue to do so. >> >> And let's face it, I (like yourself) am a guitar player. >> >> Most of what I do with loops (canned or live) is to create >> a "context" for my primary mode of self-expression on my >> primary instrument. >> >> I use and have always used those tools as "backing tracks" >> for my guitar playing when other "contexts" (a band of other >> musicians say) has not been available, or capable of >> providing a compatible one for me. >> >> Though I like to perform with others (it does get lonely >> sometimes when you live in a cultural backwater) and will >> ditch the loops and do so at almost any opportunity that >> presents itself, I've always rather enjoyed being >> self-sufficient too. >> >> I have never been ashamed of that. >> >> I don't lay in my bed at night dreaming of different new >> ways to push buttons, and what those button pushes might >> do. >> >> What I dream, if my dreams are musical at all, is about >> stuff I might play on the guitar. >> >> If folks have a problem with that, it's their problem, not >> mine. >> >> The Keller Williams mode of doing live looping is fine. >> >> The "looper as another instrument itself" mode of thinking >> and working is just fine too. >> >> But I'm with you on this (I think), I'm not really "there" >> in either of those ways of thinking about looping. >> >> And I am certainly not "there" in being a purist as to >> what's live or not or what is a better way than another way >> or not. >> >> Musically, it's all just stuff. >> >> We do what we do. >> >> Hopefully we'll keep doing it a little longer before the >> universe tells us to pack it in. >> >> The point is, do you enjoy it? >> >> Does it make your soul soar? >> >> Anything that doesn't is a distraction or a waste of time. >> >> Do what works for you, don't be ashamed of it or feel like >> you must make excuses for it. >> >> Life's too short. >> >> Tell the critics to get stuffed. >> >> :-) >> >> Ted >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 18:12:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29F68183479; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=aYf_uo_c9Mehjc7OuGQA:9 a=Qq19LCfB7Bo9shgFLrNMhm2A26sA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:12:31 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <459169791.4767787.1295287951995.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 46 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Per, Oh really? I thought the looping community actually had too many "virtual" bands=20 and not enough real ones (not meant as a criticism, just an=20 observation). :-) Ted On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > You guys could start the band "Backwater Boys" !!! At least > virtually... :-) The looping community has too few virtual bands. > "The Bernhard's" being my favorite so far, a mighty virtual power > trio! (spawned at Z=C3=BCrich Loopfest afterparty 2005, yet to reach its > bloom) > > Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 18:34:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2680F18345F; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: NAMM Blog References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <699461F4-2A04-43E2-A395-76AF8F3C2ABD@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: NAMM Blog Thread-Index: Acu2dSM5a+uuTYxETQeW+AEIDitJJQ== Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:33:14 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2011 18:34:13.0145 (UTC) FILETIME=[23652090:01CBB675] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:34:14 +0000 (UTC) There's some zoe pics and a short vid on my blog www.andyowens.com Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:54 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jim Goodin wr= ote: >> although as you point out it may still be another gen or two before the i= Pad >> can handle audio processing. >=20 > If audio processing is not being supported with the gen 2 iPad I doubt > it will never be. If contemplating Apple's typical marketing > strategies I see a fair chance (risk) that the iPad story will evolve > like those Mackbook Air laptopts; i.e. product design targeting > ordinary people that do web surfing, typing and music listening with > the machine. And the selling point Apple stresses is the cool design, > these peep's want to show off a nice looking gadget on the coffee shop > table. Musican friendly (read "powerful enough") laptops can not be > designed in such a slick manner. Funny but also a bit sad facts of > life. >=20 >> Bet NAMM was neat. Jim >=20 > I only was there virtually. But it was virtually awesome! I'm > non-virtually interested in the GR-55 that I find almost revolutionary > ;-)) (would fit in great with a "day job band" I'm playing with) >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 18:36:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7099718345D; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> <4D3436C9.6070208@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D3436C9.6070208@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <7F4F2B70-B17F-4FFB-B542-4D2980488937@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? Thread-Index: Acu2dWZE/oH33YohR+KAGdIl4ACv1A== Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:35:51 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2011 18:36:05.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[66839780:01CBB675] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Well, after NAMM I will have to say I am very interested in getting ipad or t= wo too play with, if for nothing else as a midi control surface and for the o= mnisphere synth. Really cool piece of gear.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:32 AM, andy butler wrote: > Has anyone considered the alternatives to the Apple product? >=20 > The Android OS is (i think) Linux based, and there's people working on low= latency audio for it. >=20 > Aren't there also various options for hacking too? > Apple and M$ will never produce low latency. >=20 > Just wondering why everyone's so i-obsessed=20 > andy >=20 > buzap@gmx.net wrote: >> Hi folks >> I was wondering: >> I don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch just t= o have a portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, VoiceJam)? >> This would give me more portability than the RC-2. >> Would like to hear your experience! >> Buzap >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 18:40:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72EAC183460; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1295289607; bh=CAcvNofcs8n0vpTQEBlwKDVe/AqEMzosDNLMmWsV7vU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M70F5BzeCUuD3Qb9kU/k4P1C4sz0gXfWVVFygnfoM+u7nXYTmOqijLbH2VviKiNXego++L8R2mZoDTvsefPTDEpFWuhqSxoyGCqfodF5ThDI82DJ/f0mkcqH2C2+7SWjtN31gMtpQeS2I3CgWpQwyCVJux9nwzfX+7NiUznsbX4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C4rgJi5xRCAeR8SPqUh+q5kM1vA24mni8uPFWREP6M2imijeqLlkAugTNkYBssSnapRf6UCdN0qL4OAHmgm99EUVPpZ48YZfa7CVzo/RYZ4PysfGjXuyOdXH0BHmo5MZoK53lNeHTjyuVaO1Xt+VxC+I1UddooHZjvssCohw4DQ=; Message-ID: <222700.63671.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: IzGjZNwVM1nSuddFtqYl5IqpavVJ49hVKjmgRGj1L6__5yX xTPAxYc4KZgI7i5n7bCO5O4D0JLaVwxyXFJsaxxJWZSMySt5VYHnBEcH7vWr rsH873nMFBxy4C_DNI1uHmVkOVpANf.KxRg7JmOR6HfbX99C0ZwgOhBVLhKf BwkcJbDUyR0JLHlmYUC.OoeaHSn2x8REo55hILicgiETnfU1E7mBxYcbYABu .ZWZCwTxIDMOHW88Hrr8SH_oq566Y96vL2QNPhbHmA_3btQ6wWyMYQx4MBTW wSpti_wSTRxVFo_zbtzk8Fd0SlS8iNKT1PA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <459169791.4767787.1295287951995.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:40:06 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <459169791.4767787.1295287951995.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1434076353-1295289606=:63671" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:40:09 +0000 (UTC) --0-1434076353-1295289606=:63671 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable how about a real virtual band:-)=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________________= _=0AFrom: tEd =AE kiLLiAn =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com=0ASent: Mon, January 17, 2011 7:12:31 PM=0ASubject: Re: B= acking tracks: A confession=0A=0APer,=0A=0AOh really?=0A=0AI thought the lo= oping community actually had too many "virtual" bands and not =0Aenough rea= l ones (not meant as a criticism, just an observation).=0A=0A:-)=0A=0ATed= =0A=0A=0AOn Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote:=0A=0A> You guys= could start the band "Backwater Boys" !!! At least=0A> virtually... :-) = The looping community has too few virtual bands.=0A> "The Bernhard's" being= my favorite so far, a mighty virtual power=0A> trio! (spawned at Z=FCrich = Loopfest afterparty 2005, yet to reach its=0A> bloom)=0A> =0A> Per=0A=0A=0A= --0-1434076353-1295289606=:63671 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
how about a real virtual band:-)

From: tEd= =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 7:12:31 P= M
Subject: Re: Backing = tracks: A confession

=0APer,

Oh really?

I thoug= ht the looping community actually had too many "virtual" bands and not enou= gh real ones (not meant as a criticism, just an observation).

:-)
Ted


On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
<= br>> You guys could start the band "Backwater Boys" !!!  At least> virtually... :-)  The looping community has too few virtual ban= ds.
> "The Bernhard's" being my favorite so far, a mighty virtual pow= er
> trio! (spawned at Z=FCrich Loopfest afterparty 2005, yet to reac= h its
> bloom)
>
> Per

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=0A=0A --0-1434076353-1295289606=:63671-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 18:40:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 716B8183478; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> <67050.92094.qm@web45906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4E8DD2EE-5486-40D4-B051-34E9F42F157E@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? Thread-Index: Acu2dgAdUO2MTX/2QLKaoyAyB5tAhQ== Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:39:43 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2011 18:40:23.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[00638770:01CBB676] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:40:24 +0000 (UTC) The new combination of morphwiz as the controller for omnisphere on two ipad= s is AMAZING!! Saw it demoed several times. I have a recording of a panel on= using ipad or I whatever as a musical instrument and will load to my blog a= fter I have a chance to check it in the studio.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 17, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Glad to hear it, Eric! I highly recommend ThumbJam and MorphWiz for the To= uch! >=20 > The point is to stop thinking about them for use in their "original" > conception. I don't NEED another MP3 player...so the last thing I'm > using my PodTouch for is actually listening to recorded music. The > same goes for computers...netbooks make great little dedicated > machines for music. >=20 > Photographers figured this out years ago, with Kodak films...The Great > Yellow Father would print ridiculous warnings about how to use their > film, when the REAL fun started by using it experimentally in direct > disregard of said warnings. >=20 > I like to think that most of us on here are doing the same thing with > all of gear, both software and hardware. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Denis >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:50 AM, E Gross wrote: >> Ha! Just last night I had my son show me his iPod touch so I can see how i= t >> works and whether it would be worth it. I think I will be getting one, fo= r >> the price and the available music apps I think it is worthwhile. Mostly >> thinking of using it to add some synth sounds to my hardware-based loops.= ... >>=20 >> Eric >> ________________________________ >> From: "buzap@gmx.net" >> To: LD LoopersDelight >> Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 5:38:43 AM >> Subject: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? >>=20 >> Hi folks >>=20 >> I was wondering: >> I don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch just t= o >> have a portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, VoiceJam)? >>=20 >> This would give me more portability than the RC-2. >> Would like to hear your experience! >>=20 >> Buzap >> -- >> NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! >> Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 18:42:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1697183461; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8FC66F97-A128-4A5D-8A03-8B28D2C14DC0@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? Thread-Index: Acu2dlXl08GsQA8MQdyibjZy+XiFTg== Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:42:20 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2011 18:42:47.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[560C8B90:01CBB676] Resent-Message-ID: <_qH5SB.A.9pB.o2INNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Oooo, the alesis dock looked super cool!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 17, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:38 AM, wrote: >> I was wondering: >> I don't need the iPhone etc. But is it worth getting the iPod touch just t= o have a portable live looper always with you (Everyday Looper, VoiceJam)? >=20 > I would guess "no", but advice you to hold back for a couple of days > to see reviews coming out of the Alesis StudioDock Pro for iPad that > was just announced at NAMM. Those reports will tell how serious the > iPad actually can get with audio - after all, it is not built for CPU > demanding and timing critical applications like music. > http://www.slipperybrick.com/2011/01/alesis-studiodock-pro-for-ipad/ >=20 > My bet is that the iPad will stay as the useful multi touch screen > control surface it already has proven to be. Then you need some hidden > away computer that does the actual processing. The wireless OSC based > connection is very useful with the iPad but right now there are no > looping software that supports OSC right of the bat. Logic does that > though, and I have just spent a couple of days writing a tutorial > article on OSC with Logic (Swedish only) and it is really cool I must > say. Work right away and you can use the iPhone for everything from > transport control to doing deeply into an EQ plugiin to adjust one > particular frequency band cutoff. I only have the iphone and you would > need an iPad to get serious with wireless OSC mixing because mixing is > like playing music, you need to instantly adjust several parts of the > music (tracks) at once and that many tracks doesn't fit on the iphone > screen. Gosh... this post grew by itself, got to stop here (I actually > wrote the part below before this but never mind, my brain has become > all fucked up by too much speed typing these days... it kind of > processes everything at the same time while typing is a linear > process.... funny but definitely a differetnt storuyd - now out of > here!!!!) >=20 > BTW, my old Ericsson mobile phone recently crapped out and I replaced > it with an iPhone4. What amazes me is that with an iPhone you can call > and text message for free by using certain apps like Viber and What's > Up. And - here comes my point - the Viber dev team says on their web > site that they will soon be releasing Viber for iPad as well. This > means you could use an iPad instead of an iphone for communication. > That would require Skype with a Skyp-Out account as well since Apple > have crippled the iPad to stop us from using them instead of iphone > (as usual they want us to buy all their gadgets ;-) So that was kind > of cool to find out... if I had known I might have not picked up the > iphone but gone with the pad right away. Also, rumors has that a > generation two iPad is being wrapped up right now in the secret Apple > laboratories. More rumors telling it will have better looking screen > and good sounding built-in speakers. No rumors yet regarding USB 3 > ports or digital audio ports, I guess that depends on whether its > processing power can handle live audio application. >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 19:20:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1B66183487; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3b8/XvYOLepFJCNje3KBRDg7HwzEYRbQ7Qk4OV1JMfY=; b=EiYQU2/6DQP6mXDhEIFpca3LQp9kOwG8KnXSlTWMhVRZql02yU+0fMqEXm0yUH7m/N 5fGVBc9HHdDWElrrtKqgwSWjybWpu7t2FjWLrqoAYmqCIJuI02nAFs8Ro4VX7xguQ310 3OMdZBi45FrFRHOysdn/OtUy0C5U/c91jCDYc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FsL3oZu28ogDrrtFcigBrV6XmLXtWwLp36fq1sJzhpbGZSKQHvfFFV+M+gXtdZdQZ0 e/Y3y7daZ5JwtoHjqvc/gdZDndsMyq0RPvE16Bu4gNpN2e6zx/dzaE9P+GUdRXpVuXhU maQWXNsxR00zyRbl0m5DkIGwrFrScWn2nZiro= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <698502906.4767163.1295287802975.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> References: <698502906.4767163.1295287802975.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:20:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8fd0873942049a0fad86 Resent-Message-ID: <9lzC6D.A.c_C.CaJNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:20:34 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8fd0873942049a0fad86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thought I would check in from the SE, Ocala, Florida AKA Slowcala. We have horse's, John Travolta and the "hotspot" is the Starbuck's on the Square! O= h yeah, mosquito's and alligators... Jeff On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wr= ote: > Medford, OR. > > Sometimes called Deadford (or Dreadford), Oregon (neither one in referenc= e > to an defunct rock band or a reagge hairstyle) > > Occasionally also reffered to as Mediocreville, Mudburg, or Mid-fraud*, > Oregon > > [*For all the local good-ole-boy politicians and conmen (or am I being > redundant?).] > > Nothing good ever happens in Meford. > > Ted > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:20 AM, bill bigrig wrote: > > Howdy, >> >> I live in a cultural backwater too, (first, Lewis county, WA, now, Bent= on >> county, WA). Where's yours? >> >> --- On Sun, 1/16/11, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> >> From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn >>> Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 4:36 PM >>> Hi there Mark, >>> >>> Well if you were just playing to mere canned backing tracks >>> (sort of in in effect a instrumental "guitar karaoke" thing) >>> and doing covers of of other peoples' boring pop songs you >>> might get a ribbing or two from some folks here. >>> >>> But the conceptual use of looping as "backing tracks for >>> something else doesn't bother me at all. >>> >>> I've been on the list since early October of '96 (it began >>> only a couple of months before that in June or July). >>> >>> And while I have heard some people express minor >>> disappointment from time to time here that so-and-so used >>> "canned" loops as opposed to "real" live looping, it hasn't, >>> as far as I know, really been a major axe to grind for >>> hardly anybody. >>> >>> I've been doing live tape-loop, analog and digitalL looping >>> a long, long time. >>> >>> But I have also been involved in so-called avant-garde >>> music longer than I have ever been doing "normal" music. >>> >>> In modern "art music" the concept of "music concrete" has >>> enjoyed a long and wholly accepted tradition. >>> >>> And, a little closer to mainstream, a good deal of Pink >>> Floyd's recordings and performances would not be what they >>> were if not for generous use of all sorts of pre-recorded >>> material (most of which along the lines of "music concrete" >>> or ambient/environmental sounds, or the signature cash >>> register sounds of "Money"). >>> >>> At some point in the mid '80s I thought it would be cool to >>> acquire a Roland sampling keyboard (even though I'm the >>> worst keyboardist in the world) simply so I could perform >>> with some longish canned loop samples from from various >>> sources - along with my "live" looping. >>> >>> I've been doing it all along. >>> >>> After the arrival on the marketplace of various kinds of >>> desktop "phrase" or "groove" sample players (first >>> from Akai then from Roland) I switched from the awkward >>> keyboard hardware to that format to augment my live >>> looping. >>> >>> I never hid it, and I even sometimes brought that sort of >>> setup to some of the early Y2K fests with no complaints from >>> Rick. >>> >>> Though I have largely NOT used canned loops for the past >>> few years, I am about to begin doing it again in my MaxMSP >>> laptop setup. >>> >>> I have an eight track sample player in my new rig that can >>> link to a folder with literally hundreds and hundreds of >>> sound files in it and automatically pick and play a new >>> random sound file every few seconds . . . or every tiny >>> fraction of a second if I so chose. >>> >>> I have all sorts of other controls over that content too, >>> but that's beside the point. >>> >>> Is it "music" . . . ? >>> >>> Is it "live looping" . . . ? >>> >>> Am I playing it like an instrument . . ? >>> >>> I don't know but I sure the heck like mucking around with >>> it and will continue to do so. >>> >>> And let's face it, I (like yourself) am a guitar player. >>> >>> Most of what I do with loops (canned or live) is to create >>> a "context" for my primary mode of self-expression on my >>> primary instrument. >>> >>> I use and have always used those tools as "backing tracks" >>> for my guitar playing when other "contexts" (a band of other >>> musicians say) has not been available, or capable of >>> providing a compatible one for me. >>> >>> Though I like to perform with others (it does get lonely >>> sometimes when you live in a cultural backwater) and will >>> ditch the loops and do so at almost any opportunity that >>> presents itself, I've always rather enjoyed being >>> self-sufficient too. >>> >>> I have never been ashamed of that. >>> >>> I don't lay in my bed at night dreaming of different new >>> ways to push buttons, and what those button pushes might >>> do. >>> >>> What I dream, if my dreams are musical at all, is about >>> stuff I might play on the guitar. >>> >>> If folks have a problem with that, it's their problem, not >>> mine. >>> >>> The Keller Williams mode of doing live looping is fine. >>> >>> The "looper as another instrument itself" mode of thinking >>> and working is just fine too. >>> >>> But I'm with you on this (I think), I'm not really "there" >>> in either of those ways of thinking about looping. >>> >>> And I am certainly not "there" in being a purist as to >>> what's live or not or what is a better way than another way >>> or not. >>> >>> Musically, it's all just stuff. >>> >>> We do what we do. >>> >>> Hopefully we'll keep doing it a little longer before the >>> universe tells us to pack it in. >>> >>> The point is, do you enjoy it? >>> >>> Does it make your soul soar? >>> >>> Anything that doesn't is a distraction or a waste of time. >>> >>> Do what works for you, don't be ashamed of it or feel like >>> you must make excuses for it. >>> >>> Life's too short. >>> >>> Tell the critics to get stuffed. >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> Ted >>> >>> >>> --90e6ba6e8fd0873942049a0fad86 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thought I would check in from the SE, Ocala, Florida AKA Slowcala. We have = horse's, John Travolta and the "hotspot" is the Starbuck'= s on the Square! Oh yeah, mosquito's and alligators...

Jeff

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM, tEd =AE kiL= LiAn <tedkil= lian@charter.net> wrote:
Medford, OR.

Sometimes called Deadford (or Dreadford), Oregon (neither one in reference = to an defunct rock band or a reagge hairstyle)

Occasionally also reffered to as Mediocreville, Mudburg, or Mid-fraud*, Ore= gon

[*For all the local good-ole-boy politicians and conmen (or am I being redu= ndant?).]

Nothing good ever happens in Meford.

Ted


On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:20 AM, bill bigrig wrote:

Howdy,

=A0I live in a cultural backwater too, (first, Lewis county, WA, now, Bento= n county, WA). Where's yours?

--- On Sun, 1/16/11, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:

From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Backing tracks: A confession
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 4:36 PM
Hi there Mark,

Well if you were just playing to mere canned backing tracks
(sort of in in effect a instrumental "guitar karaoke" thing)
and doing covers of of other peoples' boring pop songs you
might get a ribbing or two from some folks here.

But the conceptual use of looping as "backing tracks for
something else doesn't bother me at all.

I've been on the list since early October of '96 (it began
only a couple of months before that in June or July).

And while I have heard some people express minor
disappointment from time to time here that so-and-so used
"canned" loops as opposed to "real" live looping, it ha= sn't,
as far as I know, really been a major axe to grind for
hardly anybody.

I've been doing live tape-loop, analog and digitalL looping
a long, long time.

But I have also been involved in so-called avant-garde
music longer than I have ever been doing "normal" music.

In modern "art music" the concept of "music concrete" h= as
enjoyed a long and wholly accepted tradition.

And, a little closer to mainstream, a good deal of Pink
Floyd's recordings and performances would not be what they
were if not for generous use of all sorts of pre-recorded
material (most of which along the lines of "music concrete"
or ambient/environmental sounds, or the signature cash
register sounds of "Money").

At some point in the mid '80s I thought it would be cool to
acquire a Roland sampling keyboard (even though I'm the
worst keyboardist in the world) simply so I could perform
with some longish canned loop samples from from various
sources - along with my "live" looping.

I've been doing it all along.

After the arrival on the marketplace of various kinds of
desktop "phrase" or "groove" sample players=A0 (first from Akai then from Roland) I switched from the awkward
keyboard hardware to that format to augment my live
looping.

I never hid it, and I even sometimes brought that sort of
setup to some of the early Y2K fests with no complaints from
Rick.

Though I have largely NOT used canned loops for the past
few years, I am about to begin doing it again in my MaxMSP
laptop setup.

I have an eight track sample player in my new rig that can
link to a folder with literally hundreds and hundreds of
sound files in it and automatically pick and play a new
random sound file every few seconds . . . or every tiny
fraction of a second if I so chose.

I have all sorts of other controls over that content too,
but that's beside the point.

Is it "music" . . . ?

Is it "live looping" . . . ?

Am I playing it like an instrument . . ?

I don't know but I sure the heck like mucking around with
it and will continue to do so.

And let's face it, I (like yourself) am a guitar player.

Most of what I do with loops (canned or live) is to create
a "context" for my primary mode of self-expression on my
primary instrument.

I use and have always used those tools as "backing tracks"
for my guitar playing when other "contexts" (a band of other
musicians say) has not been available, or capable of
providing a compatible one for me.

Though I like to perform with others (it does get lonely
sometimes when you live in a cultural backwater) and will
ditch the loops and do so at almost any opportunity that
presents itself, I've always rather enjoyed being
self-sufficient too.

I have never been ashamed of that.

I don't lay in my bed at night dreaming of different new
ways to push buttons, and what those button pushes might
do.

What I dream, if my dreams are musical at all, is about
stuff I might play on the guitar.

If folks have a problem with that, it's their problem, not
mine.

The Keller Williams mode of doing live looping is fine.

The "looper as another instrument itself" mode of thinking
and working is just fine too.

But I'm with you on this (I think), I'm not really "there"= ;
in either of those ways of thinking about looping.

And I am certainly not "there" in being a purist as to
what's live or not or what is a better way than another way
or not.

Musically, it's all just stuff.

We do what we do.

Hopefully we'll keep doing it a little longer before the
universe tells us to pack it in.

The point is, do you enjoy it?

Does it make your soul soar?

Anything that doesn't is a distraction or a waste of time.

Do what works for you, don't be ashamed of it or feel like
you must make excuses for it.

Life's too short.

Tell the critics to get stuffed.

:-)

Ted



--90e6ba6e8fd0873942049a0fad86-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 19:45:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CFEF183474; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <21D379BF-96A6-4E75-9AE2-FA4711041F22@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Is the new Stalin African-American? Thread-Index: Acu2fx42FNSrA71iQ2yc5RIxquyxvQ== Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:45:27 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2011 19:45:39.0786 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E6EA2A0:01CBB67F] Resent-Message-ID: <1RRY6B.A.aoD.lxJNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Or if you were a wikilink employee as the ones in the article were. I had th= e same thing happen going hunting into canada a few years ago. They didnt ke= ep my laptop but spent about thirty munutes looking for "child porno or mone= y laundering evidence".=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 16, 2011, at 12:13 PM, "Jeremy devros" wrote= : > My son just came home from the holidays from Beirut where he is studying a= t LAU. He brought his laptop home and no such problem. I would think if a pe= rson were going to have an issue w/TSA it would happen coming in from the Mi= ddle East. > JD >=20 > > Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:22:50 +0100 > > From: moinsound@googlemail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Is the new Stalin African-American? > >=20 > > http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/ind= ex.html > > (via @ilovetypography on twitter). > >=20 > > Any of you had experiences similar to those described in this article=20= > > about DHS/TSA proceedings when entering the US (both for US citizens and= =20 > > others)? > >=20 > > Sad to say, but the way this looks, this may require us all either to=20= > > never enter the US again - or to go back to hardware loopers... > >=20 > > Rainer > >=20 > > --=20 > > http://moinlabs.de > > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 19:51:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9635183481; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=EcYwEPKF75ZZ83ZzI2V2fXp4UqbrJLYqneNuM7tl5+opc1UO0Y2wUU7m4qLBotgw; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <21D379BF-96A6-4E75-9AE2-FA4711041F22@1800dialword.com> References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> <21D379BF-96A6-4E75-9AE2-FA4711041F22@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:51:24 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Please stop the Racist innuendo!!! Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec798b85c119cc8146f1a3bd39f64e449087350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Seriously? "Is the new Stalin African-American?" Knock this shit off now, please.. -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 20:06:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0749718345E; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1295294777; bh=puR+9UoIlMaFXH3IeZt3TIYmsJJaQxvN8KVNaGs9Edk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w1TdufivhWHB4+odsBgg6aHIgCTsVb1kBqjCa9+8zSD5ziS/gJTTAqWdZfoaa7IYMzIubPNN18Ilnb9G54yzYIRWZ3nMBUZEedL9A5+lvHltnsoUygg0ryQvGzeNJ1nG1t6fNSO0f+jxS9qCgQqzTl/yafQzesX+zHjUGHBEUCE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v5Lfygzi6oZirJSShg0McWqPLQUUXqnGaWOitCg1sMXxEMsosbieG8fVjcGxS0Ahn0zD29qH6hiPnonTxthJbf//cT+tu36zcm83ayIJUX319jeD40PhlTusI6aKGXsMgl8BHvVxX3cFUAYznyVHeY6WiS/gbEf5erYd32gyrDo=; Message-ID: <546332.79181.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JkAirCsVM1l.5citXt5fRdw4_9VXawAct8xIAeil2pNZZ61 7F0YuZIZYp0_A82jiNmjcZXEX9MbybZb.14jUO3J50vcOlDNurotDKWESIvU YxRkV7l5RCg3aeNvgktVPxn6JZ6lZAa1t4BD1HnBZjN7USj2HNRL7Qyd3Vbp yFgHv7g7BEnPTxt_onDUXJv6UqUu8J0i060b4od24tiqjfNsj_8IGuQvF_55 hcoeWhlRgYY5dFSKs_earLpiTsKoeHT1qKO9512w8IOtudEl7mbjCExAdlEy ez9toMS2QujcK X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> <21D379BF-96A6-4E75-9AE2-FA4711041F22@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:06:17 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Please stop the Racist innuendo!!! Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-208424642-1295294777=:79181" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:06:19 +0000 (UTC) --0-208424642-1295294777=:79181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am sure the same point can be made in a more subtle way Antony ________________________________ From: Charles Zwicky To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 8:51:24 PM Subject: Please stop the Racist innuendo!!! Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? Seriously? "Is the new Stalin African-American?" Knock this shit off now, please.. -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --0-208424642-1295294777=:79181 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I am sure the same point can be made in a more subtle way

Antony

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Subject: Please stop the Racist innuendo!!! Re: Is the new Stalin African-American?

Seriously? "Is the new Stalin African-American?"
Knock this shit off now, please..

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--0-208424642-1295294777=:79181-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 21:01:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F5E5183461; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D34AE15.3010403@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:01:09 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: LP2 at namm References: <31DDE8BC-580C-4693-BD03-8D15548A5D0E@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <31DDE8BC-580C-4693-BD03-8D15548A5D0E@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:01:20 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > The two buttons on the right are labeled effects one and two. When a loop is playing, they are ready to trigger the manipulation. If a loop is not playing you hold down record and the effects light up and if you press one the one scrolls, two two scrolls. Purty cool. Almost correct, Andy (and thanks for responding to this post, I just slept in for the first time in a week and didn't read any of these queries until right now to respond: There are two ways to change what effects are attached to the two effects buttons (1 and 2). 1) there is a switch on the back that you can use with your hand before you start to record. This lights up all the LEDs and then you scroll through to whichever effect you want Effect One to control and then scroll through to whichever effect you want Effect Two to be and then you hit the Record button to set your choices. It's a move you have to get the hang up but it's very rapid once I did. 2) When a loop is already playing (and NOT in stop mode as Andy wrote) you can hold down the RECORD button and it will access all of the EFFECTS and you chose as in the previous example, hit RECORD one more time and the effect is set. rick walker PS by the way, it was really a treat to see you, Andy and your very talented son (who was just ripping up on his mandolin in a little brief impromptu jam we had at the booth). I love NAMM because you get to finally see people who you feel affectionate towards but have only had an online relationship with previously. I got to see three people this year for the first time and it was really wonderful. This list is also wonderful for those kinds of experiences. We're lucky to have each other here! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 21:20:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26FCD183460; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:20:25 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Goodin CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Per wrote: > My bet is that the iPad will stay as the useful multi touch screen > control surface it already has proven to be. Then you need some hidden > away computer that does the actual processing. The wireless OSC based > connection is very useful with the iPad but right now there are no > looping software that supports OSC right of the bat. I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, 'the Missing Link' which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument, remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions about support in looping software (or hardware) I was hoping to control my LP-1 at NAMM with my iTouch but I got so sick before the show I just didn't have time to get it all working but it DOES work (I saw Hans at the show). So this is very exciting to me: Particularly because the way I loop is to play multiple tracks (and frequently multiple instruments) and then in the 2nd half of my performance I play producer and dub-maestro, manipulating the tracks with effects and the use of loop manipulation that the LP-1 is so good at. To be able to do this in a more 'performance' mode, in other words, not so tethered to the hardware device or looking down at pedals (the 'shoegazer' effect) which using the app 'touchOSC' would allow one to do with an iTouch (the only one I own) is great. Additionally and saliently cool is the fact that you can program all of the accelerometer action of the iTouch to control midi instruments. How cool is that? rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 21:28:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35C9B18345E; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D34B47F.4020409@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:28:31 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Moser CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:28:40 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > The beauty of using the iPOD Touch is that it IS NOT a PHONE, so there > is no cost penalty attached to it. So true. I have an iTouch and have been researching apps for Bill Putnam and I'm astonished by how much music you can get out of it. I remember distinctly feeling like I watching a new paradigm of performance when Kevin Spears (aka KalimbaMan) played at the Y2K8 and Y2K9 looping festivals. He was playing small hand held African thumb pianos and then switching over to playing a Korg Kaossilator.........everything was small, hand held and it allowed him to make a very cool and visceral performance (just moving his body, singing and being the overall awesome and riveting performer that Kevin is). To add an iTouch rocking emulations of Hang drums and Kotos and Moog Synthesizers and Theremins and live looping apps and, and , and ......just really ups the whole performance bar. I highly recommend buying yourself a used iTouch if you can afford to. (There's even a $60 Blue microphone for sale that you can use to record and sample things for future manipulations---and then send them to your computer to process further). rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 21:29:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E99F18345E; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=09MM4HnbpTOpZfLjRtjX3zKZDE8nocfWFVYhhb+xd9M=; b=SIkJ0zBVwWtlHtS/Pqz3ht9itxoSKL4dyOI01jQA/m0oeNAX4iX8EIpX4SzAKKi42y F1LyagSEyOY5QKIh+06Y4Gen+HlmtbltJixAj/oqsVfszyCM5aQAc6H26/8Do+cnsi5D ppjkAhyqxw2K5THvgB+ruCMg5jcgmVteD13RE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ATI5nmSr7gfKW7dbkfEX5wI0FsTGcutWrYuOv6x9uU9QjEqdHnnS7gJxWNwRDK57Lh Y3kungSNxi4naMQyCKft7s23kocSCfGexfclMDwEpctglQzdC8KZtsc/srwpOtVTLenc wrPclSg/TPSRuvXrTjjfy0v6kVgZNO933M6vQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:29:49 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb820d09305049a117b59 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:29:51 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb820d09305049a117b59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > My bet is that the iPad will stay as the useful multi touch screen > control surface it already has proven to be. Then you need some hidden > away computer that does the actual processing. The wireless OSC based > connection is very useful with the iPad but right now there are no > looping software that supports OSC right of the bat. FWIW, the 1.43 release of Mobius supports OSC and I have a few templates for use with TouchOSC. You have to program it in XML though, there is no nice user interface. Jeff --0015175cb820d09305049a117b59 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> My bet is that the iPad will stay as the useful multi touch screen
> control surface it already has proven to be. Then you need some h= idden
> away computer that does the actual processing. The wir= eless OSC based
> connection is very useful with the iPad but = right now there are no
> looping software that supports OSC right of the bat.=A0

FWIW, the 1.43 release of Mobius supports OSC and I have a = few templates
for use with TouchOSC. =A0You have to program it in= XML though, there
is no nice user interface.

Jeff

--0015175cb820d09305049a117b59-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 21:33:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCAB318345A; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D34B59D.5050302@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:33:17 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: LP2 at namm References: <9DEC1EAA-AA00-4F52-A072-0BF980788661@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <9DEC1EAA-AA00-4F52-A072-0BF980788661@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:33:25 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > I liked playing around with it, my only two points were that it would be nice to know what effect is armed, and the effects work on the whole set of primary loop and overdubs, which is a bit foriegn to me, but I'm used to the LP1. When you toggle the effects button, it lights up which effect is being used, Andy. > By the way, chatter from bob at the show was he will be putting some time on the LP1 this year, woo hoo!!! Oh yes, Andy Butler and I have been working on some very cool new LP-1 functionality (not found in any loopers so far) for the new year! I'm excited about the possibilities. We'll let you know when we're there, I promise. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 21:36:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33EC618347B; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XNvixgjthTY2Tcx+QLqSZMYGdFLV+vdAk9BUYV5sVjE=; b=qQhohM1F0k55x6xjU62eYm1xYXMfQ7askI2QW1+fLWD4uLOlBMbApfNqwM2RhummfZ IegsDaHQ2wn9S+CX9CShsYqcxrhSkx5RnXcbbKYpxz0oIvyJfbJ5+KWu0sv9s3yCkVg5 4bVSguEu5nPZMYAGfzSr9qqix5PqD2PpkFjEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q+sxvyk2zFvabH75xVu+bzUzCV7mnoJk7IMOdgTz38avhcl5+6QOwRwFKprq/TkDBw F6v1IoJn37L1ufIMAjylwCh8mRJ3j1hZJ7R15aSElJNBMLuoVeh0HMfXAVfWdNEVtMf+ 36XTDBiLn1jSKVet7ffhOOcd/3I/mGh03uJ3g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> References: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:36:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:36:06 +0000 (UTC) I'm sorry I misread the original post and started rapping about iPad when the thread actually was about iPod Touch! My bad. ;-) Anyway, I'm not at all excited with the multi touch technology for controlling music instruments. I would much rather take any equally effective control surface that doesn't force you to visually look at it in order to use it. I like being able to play without looking, and that is simply not possible with these touch screen pads and pods. But one side with them excites the shit out of me - the become incredibly inexpensive in the long run! That is because unlike hardware you can simply push a button to load a different app and suddenly have a completely different piece of music gear at your finger tips. Recardoing OSC to MIDI converters we already have Osculator that sort of have become the standard. But I was more thinking about loopers that directly support OSC without the need of an extra transformation utility. One point in using OSC is that it has a better resolution than MIDI. @Jeff, Awesome news on the Mobius 1.43 OSC support! Can't wait to dig into that after the recent period of concerts. The KaossPad 4 looks nice and so does the Korg NanoPad ;-)) And yes of course the GR-55! Such a NAMM we saw this year! Per On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Per wrote: >> >> My bet is that the iPad will stay as the useful multi touch screen >> control surface it already has proven to be. Then you need some hidden >> away computer that does the actual processing. The wireless OSC based >> connection is very useful with the iPad but right now there are no >> looping software that supports OSC right of the bat. > > I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, =C2=A0'the Missing Lin= k' > which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically > to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument, > remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions abou= t > support in > looping software (or hardware) > > I was hoping to control my LP-1 at NAMM with my iTouch but I got > so sick before the show I just didn't have time to get it all working > but it DOES work (I saw Hans at the show). > > So this is very exciting to me: =C2=A0 Particularly because the way I loo= p > is to play multiple tracks (and frequently multiple instruments) > and then in the 2nd half of my performance I play producer and > dub-maestro, =C2=A0manipulating the tracks with effects and the use > of loop manipulation that the LP-1 is so good at. > > To be able to do this in a more 'performance' mode, =C2=A0in other words, > not so tethered to the hardware device or looking down at > pedals (the 'shoegazer' effect) which using the app 'touchOSC' > would allow one to do with an iTouch (the only one I own) > is great. > > Additionally and saliently cool is the fact that you can program all > of the accelerometer action of the iTouch to control midi instruments. > > How cool is that? > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 21:54:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7BE5183474; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8lalCAyg62KZvdajO4vOoJnLe6SQ65Xpse4fleaE9jA=; b=JTNHAzxfC3fXLUIfUvVFy6BaV178GmFsFsRKzlYHKrowF1ut0AgTLuVW33VBPtB2jM MxsujQ4Ac2RjhOj94gVxwG6h9ylG5y7pecbJR9sPT9GkXzDYnIg5rwxkUxYxrDkqZPQg AVhEs13is4v1Wa3eHDwyn+PExFvf90Kc3zdik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dB2WVnGDOaz0v3SNRVOfS7dPdp4Y7nxRZJnq2EvDAZEcj2OC9fV6YILU9I3wixaBNg +Qe6UGVuekcU2VRCBCh78GNXN5AwWLXDvPBtrO51Hlh3V5PrjH+WFXYZ78/CfTBh815Y wnmR+kuAmzN16ql7muqOpz7lv2cvSO8Z25khM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:54:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2e9f07801049a11d323 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:54:29 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2e9f07801049a11d323 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff you mentioned that and I sort of glossed over earlier but now thinking of it more focused, partly after spent a lot of energy with Mobius this pas= t weekend (guess I am back again, know I've been a revolving door with it but the recent script discussion was quite interesting as I alluded earlier). Maybe I should write you off-list about this as it sounds like it might be an interesting option for me to explore re control. Thx for rementioning. Jim On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Jeff Larson wro= te: > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote= : > > My bet is that the iPad will stay as the useful multi touch screen > > control surface it already has proven to be. Then you need some hidden > > away computer that does the actual processing. The wireless OSC based > > connection is very useful with the iPad but right now there are no > > looping software that supports OSC right of the bat. > > FWIW, the 1.43 release of Mobius supports OSC and I have a few templates > for use with TouchOSC. You have to program it in XML though, there > is no nice user interface. > > Jeff > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a2e9f07801049a11d323 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff you mentioned that and I sort of glossed over earlier but now thinking= of it more focused, partly after spent a lot of energy with Mobius this pa= st weekend (guess I am back again, know I've been a revolving door with= it but the recent script discussion was quite interesting as I alluded ear= lier). =A0Maybe I should write you off-list about this as it sounds like it= might be an interesting option for me to explore re control.

Thx for rementioning.

Jim

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@s= ailpoint.com> wrote:

> On Mon= , Jan 17, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> My bet is that the iPad will stay as the useful multi touch scree= n
> control surface it already has proven to be. Then you need some h= idden
> away computer that does the actual processing. The wir= eless OSC based
> connection is very useful with the iPad but = right now there are no
> looping software that supports OSC right of the bat.=A0

FWIW, the 1.43 release of Mobius supports OSC and I h= ave a few templates
for use with TouchOSC. =A0You have to program= it in XML though, there
is no nice user interface.

Jeff




--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a2e9f07801049a11d323-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 21:56:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0C7618345F; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1857 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:56:58 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.9 X-EN-IMPSID: wlRp1f0080BkWne0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:25:49 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? In-Reply-To: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> References: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20110117215658.2F473183451@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Missing Link got a bit of a write up: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midiosc-developers-answer-questions/ At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote: I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, 'the Missing Link' >which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically >to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument, >remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions >about support in >looping software (or hardware) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 22:11:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E13C18345B; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4vbOXFV8AH4rX7T0diz7y4EsPrSpzKHwIkIyoI8vrp0=; b=Zav61Ii6618S4WeuTwnvHjtCZiVFN0qm+voNd5nSXz9WGbsvZQgftZV1h8bBATqAkL VGvA7B4tmRQz0Ti8fTFRfxtgS34gi2y2lfUpbcCMKpDdSC6Vl7+qdYwDXuNixN77iUyF cO9XMtQQkA1rkYqKqKXy463hdaIQzrjKQeVfg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ArZAbRoKzZLizodnV+a96WEbtPGIGc/2buN0C0xdJJzM1Ko8tZUhVNZy9vFMcHhQGc urrS4wTadrN5sx37llC63q8caG6hx35jZ1HLhtDqYtNhph4VoJOU6tYTEwNe/X/SjHvQ btjywDdf3bgslBX/JfTKO/+VGqvppWPRf3eEI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110117215658.2F473183451@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> <20110117215658.2F473183451@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:11:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a34d11d664049a121250 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:11:52 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a34d11d664049a121250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sean thanks, that's pretty neat. As I have an iTOuch at present I'm rather interested in exploring that option. Forgive me here but are you the Sean = I met at Y2K this past fall? If not sorry to confuse and thanks for the lead here, hey it is you just recognized your fts email! On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Sean Echevarria < fuckthespam@creepingfog.com> wrote: > Missing Link got a bit of a write up: > > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-mid= iosc-developers-answer-questions/ > > > > > At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, 'the Missing Link' > >> which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically >> to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument, >> remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions abo= ut >> support in >> looping software (or hardware) >> > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a34d11d664049a121250 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sean thanks, that's pretty neat. =A0As I have an iTOuch at present I= 9;m rather interested in exploring that option. =A0Forgive me here but are = you the Sean I met at Y2K this past fall? If not sorry to confuse and thank= s for the lead here, hey it is you just recognized your fts email! =A0

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Sean Echeva= rria <f= uckthespam@creepingfog.com> wrote:
Missing Link got a bit of a write up:
http://create= digitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midiosc-developers= -answer-questions/




At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, =A0'the Miss= ing Link'
which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically
to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument,
remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions about = support in
looping software (or hardware)




--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a34d11d664049a121250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 22:25:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0ECED183460; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OfNovE7HHoPOxzgCFekJv45hvkcViFMGhuJHcHVSSb0=; b=Ut2rG2h1J/xnYOqXHxNS8ONh1i4oGHwvdCrL4VB3Xr9HxGgEVQwIPqsLO4f6xVbEGX JVq8VJMhaab2gaJERBA0aI6eooSGtQgBReLVXSFCZLbOzYtA3FSRmwv0wavI7j04riLL eZdXOsoxSZjSBTy4KnBBcVhz/ms+tZGIIdDu8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KkkgTFBD2X7jSwZcBHPoZElV5r4ErHy2TRLDeKY68BtbISxr80Z+F4mFKqKuOOnG/V aExF/JTP8+PdoS+H6MZexqdTTjNkKNkuewgel28AgRxfiYGbsF0GiSWPg3aDjdFyg5xk Fa5ASQCfFZkR11gIH373Gvz3IBZ1ynhWVYv2Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110117215658.2F473183451@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> <20110117215658.2F473183451@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:25:51 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364270c837358f049a124436 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:25:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016364270c837358f049a124436 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What I can't figure out from the material available on the Intertubes is exactly what "receives OSC" means. Since there are effectively no standards for what OSC messages look like, one of the challenges in doing anything with OSC is translating the messages that one device sends into the messages another device recognizes. Can you use this with both TouchOSC and the monome for example which have different OSC "vocabularies"? Jeff On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Sean Echevarria < fuckthespam@creepingfog.com> wrote: > Missing Link got a bit of a write up: > > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midiosc-developers-answer-questions/ > > > > > At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, 'the Missing Link' > >> which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically >> to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument, >> remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions about >> support in >> looping software (or hardware) >> > > --0016364270c837358f049a124436 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I can't figure out from the material available on the Intertubes i= s exactly what "receives OSC" means.
Since there are effectiv= ely no standards for what OSC messages look like, one of the challenges in<= /div>
doing anything with OSC is translating the messages that one device se= nds into the messages
another device recognizes. =A0 Can you use = this with both TouchOSC and the monome for example
which have dif= ferent OSC "vocabularies"?

Jeff



On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Sean Echevarria <fuckthespam@creepingfo= g.com> wrote:
Missing Link got a bit of a write up:
http://create= digitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midiosc-developers= -answer-questions/




At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, =A0'the Miss= ing Link'
which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically
to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument,
remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions about = support in
looping software (or hardware)


--0016364270c837358f049a124436-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 22:36:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B613418347B; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=upd1wHStYNwqS0BwXkhPYNHIkSjvLBGmuDnMt6Hb1cU=; b=RZ4Iv+siSF14aBpl22ZfAiHtb4/WIt3++n61YJvrCN+UTbaC0n6KMnL4Y56KzJU6FQ 4dh0CsB0v6aGNWApJpLDtrmSoy9qoEmSOvnwXWt1rzV6HjFVHgy7NxIzdKmCAuiX+D+x uIZpoVoNMIbZgXRA6raMqZG3g4W1VdgNCe51Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cOcGgXIz5Nq+VRXoFP2x+OthZ5DJ0steG5REmkEBqBGwaavf6qSSvx+ZV49bskKvKT jqW6vMGBP8uTc4Hu8+afsO1wQuTNK8NnZWbs4H/PxzwcLw4IR3vfzUuqSzE5ZKkIOfxN fatt0oEV2OogPErWsq/cy02oHG2u4mqNERSvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> <20110117215658.2F473183451@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:36:38 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364270c8d1ab35049a126aa1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:36:42 +0000 (UTC) --0016364270c8d1ab35049a126aa1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Found it....http://wifimidi.com/setup/ > Note also that TouchOSC for Android does not yet allow for custom OSC messages. > Your OSC app *must* allow custom OSC messages, and must also output its values in > the 0-1.0 range (floating point), with slash ("/") delimiters. That should be pretty standard. It doesn't do message translation, you have to program the sender to send the messages it recognizes. That's an understandable limitation, and since TouchOSC is what most people will be using it probably isn't that big of a deal. Just be aware that you can't use every OSC device with this (not that there are that many), it has to support custom messages. Jeff On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > What I can't figure out from the material available on the Intertubes is > exactly what "receives OSC" means. > Since there are effectively no standards for what OSC messages look like, > one of the challenges in > doing anything with OSC is translating the messages that one device sends > into the messages > another device recognizes. Can you use this with both TouchOSC and the > monome for example > which have different OSC "vocabularies"? > > Jeff > > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Sean Echevarria < > fuckthespam@creepingfog.com> wrote: > >> Missing Link got a bit of a write up: >> >> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midiosc-developers-answer-questions/ >> >> >> >> >> At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, 'the Missing Link' >> >>> which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically >>> to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument, >>> remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions >>> about support in >>> looping software (or hardware) >>> >> >> > --0016364270c8d1ab35049a126aa1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Found it....http://wifimidi.com/setu= p/

=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0> Note a= lso that TouchOSC for Android does not yet allow for custom OSC messages.
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0Your OSC app=A0must=A0allow custom OSC messages, and must also output its val= ues in
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0the 0-1.0 range (floatin= g point), with slash ("/") delimiters. That should be pretty stan= dard.


It = doesn't do message translation, you have to program the sender to send = the messages
it recognizes. =A0That&= #39;s an understandable limitation, and since TouchOSC is what most people<= /span>
will be using it probab= ly isn't that big of a deal. =A0 =A0Just be aware that you can't = =A0use
every OSC device with t= his (not that there are that many), it has to support custom messages.

Jeff

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:25 P= M, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
What I can't figure out from the material available on the Intertubes i= s exactly what "receives OSC" means.
Since there are effectiv= ely no standards for what OSC messages look like, one of the challenges in<= /div>
doing anything with OSC is translating the messages that one device se= nds into the messages
another device recognizes. =A0 Can you use = this with both TouchOSC and the monome for example
which have dif= ferent OSC "vocabularies"?

Jeff



On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Sean Echevarri= a <fuckthespam@creepingfog.com> wrote:
Miss= ing Link got a bit of a write up:
http://create= digitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midiosc-developers= -answer-questions/




At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, =A0'the Miss= ing Link'
which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically
to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument,
remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions about = support in
looping software (or hardware)



--0016364270c8d1ab35049a126aa1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 22:41:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 487CF18347B; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:41:10 +0100 From: buzap@gmx.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110117224110.132280@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/QfLB0nTfQcNzyhDVAsI2cW7CQ25f807qsPCi+p/ pz13HoMdXLUcBymsaHsobMq10krh7XveyZSQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: vvIBedl0TiE+ONp6nGVw5pV9ZUVSRNd9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys thanks for all the responses. Actually, what I want is just simple plain vanilla looping with built-in mic when I'm around, outdoors - or just too lazy to turn on my Mac. As soon as Mainstage has native iPad support - no-brainer - I'll get one. Ableton "lite" running natively on iPad would Be sweet. What I'm waiting for: Lilypond for iOS... Is there a useable live looper on Android? The Archos internet tablet (7" or 10") is pretty sweet and only 250-300$. best regards Buzap PS: just typing this from my 6 year old Pocket PC via Bluetooth tethering for the hell of it ;-) -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 23:10:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24FA118345E; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=MkwHu/B5Q3Pe+T6Zf6pu53/gnypZXLeDVqH5z1kDTuE=; b=SM4+kd1l5T2j7iVnMcbusuUB3b37hTotEOqEKHgjbLe1n4H5caioxAW9W1eD5Lk7dE HFRm0L1y9rl5wec2Jul1TVrvf+MVGEoB1ph+tjCoaeOi3KoFTIms3X1LUTky86PP6MzR 0fBXOon4weNAbhp0bLLravqQ2IwQKVYG5KJFk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=PXOHVJ2nZJ9Ctj13aBwLE9WG8QnWiMIU4+dVlu2eJVMB79VE4sQBfnsghGgYACbbZe HujF35kMOglbKb8lfHpjL/aBMj/yyu3QBTuMBLFdfoQFEoV20gOF4fzXIvpTx6+U7GuL aGJmLTDrLYI2VtldX2/kYmultdF4hl/ZlyOhA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> <21D379BF-96A6-4E75-9AE2-FA4711041F22@1800dialword.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:09:46 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: rZKDQfFzGTwGbPr9rOcvCa9-eJM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Please stop the Racist innuendo!!! Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e860a745fe7049a12e203 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:10:07 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e860a745fe7049a12e203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cant quite see why that was racist Charlie? Or an innuendo for that matter... I thought it was just.. well... funny..! (With a very serious undercurrent of course).. need to relax a bit mate, we=B4re all friends here... On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Charles Zwicky wro= te: > Seriously? "Is the new Stalin African-American?" > Knock this shit off now, please.. > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e860a745fe7049a12e203 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cant quite see why that was racist Charlie? Or an innuendo for that matte= r... I thought it was just.. well... funny..! (With a very serious undercur= rent of course).. need to relax a bit mate, we=B4re all friends here...

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Charles Zwi= cky <cazwick= y@earthlink.net> wrote:
Seriously? "Is the new Stalin African-American?"
Knock this shit off now, please..

--

...
http://www.zmix.net
http://ww= w.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcred= its.com/zmix




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mark francombewww.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markf= rancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e860a745fe7049a12e203-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 23:19:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2B5C183466; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? References: <4D34B47F.4020409@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-7--828407097"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <4D34B47F.4020409@cruzio.com> Thread-Topic: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? Thread-Index: Acu2nQj7ADLawhU9SEOvRVFVW6qavQ== Message-ID: <027154A3-D4A9-4006-BF00-F42F33CDFAA6@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:19:31 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2011 23:19:49.0258 (UTC) FILETIME=[095076A0:01CBB69D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:19:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--828407097 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Rick, if you look hard I bet you can "find" and itouch laying around the= re then you can run digital percussion on it and it will be "found" percussi= on like you like!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 17, 2011, at 4:28 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > > The beauty of using the iPOD Touch is that it IS NOT a PHONE, so there > > is no cost penalty attached to it. > So true. > I have an iTouch and have been researching apps for Bill Putnam and > I'm astonished by how much music you can get out of it. >=20 > I remember distinctly feeling like I watching a new paradigm of > performance > when Kevin Spears (aka KalimbaMan) played at the Y2K8 and Y2K9 looping > festivals. >=20 > He was playing small hand held African thumb pianos and then switching ove= r > to playing a Korg Kaossilator.........everything was small, hand held and > it allowed him to make a very cool and visceral performance (just moving > his > body, singing and being the overall awesome and riveting performer that > Kevin > is). >=20 > To add an iTouch rocking emulations of Hang drums and Kotos and Moog > Synthesizers > and Theremins and live looping apps and, and , and >=20 > ......just really ups the whole performance bar. >=20 > I highly recommend buying yourself a used iTouch if you can afford to. > (There's even a $60 Blue microphone for sale that you can use to record > and sample > things for future manipulations---and then send them to your computer to > process > further). >=20 > rick walker >=20 --Apple-Mail-7--828407097 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hey Rick, if you look hard I bet you can "find" and itouch laying around there then you can run digital percussion on it and it will be "found" percussion like you like!!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 17, 2011, at 4:28 PM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote:
> The beauty of using the iPOD Touch is that it IS NOT a PHONE, so there
> is no cost penalty attached to it.
So true.
I have an iTouch and have been researching apps for Bill Putnam and
I'm astonished by how much music you can get out of it.

I remember distinctly feeling like I  watching a new paradigm of
performance
when Kevin Spears (aka KalimbaMan) played at the Y2K8 and Y2K9 looping
festivals.

He was playing small hand held African thumb pianos and then switching over
to playing a Korg Kaossilator.........everything was small, hand held and
it allowed him to make a very cool and visceral performance (just moving
his
body, singing and being the overall awesome and riveting performer that
Kevin
is).

To add an iTouch rocking emulations of Hang drums and Kotos and Moog
Synthesizers
and Theremins and live looping apps and, and , and

......just really ups the whole performance bar.

I highly recommend buying yourself a used iTouch if you can afford to.
(There's even a $60 Blue microphone for sale that you can use to record
and sample
things for future manipulations---and then send them to your computer to
process
further).

rick walker

--Apple-Mail-7--828407097-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 23:29:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33E0718347B; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? References: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> <20110117215658.2F473183451@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-8--827828716"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Thread-Topic: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? Thread-Index: Acu2nmjqIbj7nqIYTRy7NIyUUGFc5A== Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:29:10 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2011 23:29:40.0304 (UTC) FILETIME=[699AED00:01CBB69E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:29:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--827828716 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, I'm not up on all the guts you guys are talking about, but after being= at namm and seeing so, so many ipads being used for oh so many things, I am= sure, as someone just said, that an ipad ir two and a powerful computer act= ually doing the work is going to be a very, very possible, probable platform= that is even now spawning a plethora of possibilities.=20 I went to LA a diehard hardware and but am now more than a bit confused!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 17, 2011, at 5:25 PM, "Jeff Larson" wrote= : > What I can't figure out from the material available on the Intertubes is e= xactly what "receives OSC" means. > Since there are effectively no standards for what OSC messages look like, o= ne of the challenges in > doing anything with OSC is translating the messages that one device sends i= nto the messages > another device recognizes. Can you use this with both TouchOSC and the m= onome for example > which have different OSC "vocabularies"? >=20 > Jeff >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Sean Echevarria wrote: > Missing Link got a bit of a write up: > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midi= osc-developers-answer-questions/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, 'the Missing Link' > which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically > to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument, > remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions about= support in > looping software (or hardware) >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-8--827828716 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgYmdjb2xvcj0iI0ZGRkZGRiI+PGRpdj5XZWxsLCBJJ20gbm90IHVwIG9uIGFs bCB0aGUgZ3V0cyB5b3UgZ3V5cyBhcmUgdGFsa2luZyBhYm91dCwgYnV0IGFmdGVyIGJlaW5nIGF0 IG5hbW0gYW5kIHNlZWluZyBzbywgc28gbWFueSBpcGFkcyBiZWluZyB1c2VkIGZvciBvaCBzbyBt YW55IHRoaW5ncywgSSBhbSBzdXJlLCBhcyBzb21lb25lIGp1c3Qgc2FpZCwgdGhhdCBhbiBpcGFk IGlyIHR3byBhbmQgYSBwb3dlcmZ1bCBjb21wdXRlciBhY3R1YWxseSBkb2luZyB0aGUgd29yayBp cyBnb2luZyB0byBiZSBhIHZlcnksIHZlcnkgcG9zc2libGUsIHByb2JhYmxlIHBsYXRmb3JtIHRo YXQgaXMgZXZlbiBub3cgc3Bhd25pbmcgYSBwbGV0aG9yYSBvZiBwb3NzaWJpbGl0aWVzLiZuYnNw OzwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+SSB3ZW50IHRvIExBIGEgZGllaGFyZCBoYXJkd2Fy ZSBhbmQgYnV0IGFtIG5vdyBtb3JlIHRoYW4gYSBiaXQgY29uZnVzZWQhISE8YnI+PGJyPkFuZHkg T3dlbnM8ZGl2PjEtODAwLUFuZHlPd2VuczwvZGl2PjxkaXY+U2VudCBmcm9tIG15IGlQaG9uZTxk aXY+U28gdGhlIHR5cGluZyBtaWdodCBub3QgYmUgbXkgYmVzdCE8L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rp dj48L2Rpdj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj5PbiBKYW4gMTcsIDIwMTEsIGF0IDU6MjUgUE0sICJKZWZm IExhcnNvbiIgJmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpqZWZmLmxhcnNvbkBzYWlscG9pbnQuY29tIj5q ZWZmLmxhcnNvbkBzYWlscG9pbnQuY29tPC9hPiZndDsgd3JvdGU6PGJyPjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2 PjwvZGl2PjxibG9ja3F1b3RlIHR5cGU9ImNpdGUiPjxkaXY+V2hhdCBJIGNhbid0IGZpZ3VyZSBv dXQgZnJvbSB0aGUgbWF0ZXJpYWwgYXZhaWxhYmxlIG9uIHRoZSBJbnRlcnR1YmVzIGlzIGV4YWN0 bHkgd2hhdCAicmVjZWl2ZXMgT1NDIiBtZWFucy48ZGl2PlNpbmNlIHRoZXJlIGFyZSBlZmZlY3Rp dmVseSBubyBzdGFuZGFyZHMgZm9yIHdoYXQgT1NDIG1lc3NhZ2VzIGxvb2sgbGlrZSwgb25lIG9m IHRoZSBjaGFsbGVuZ2VzIGluPC9kaXY+DQo8ZGl2PmRvaW5nIGFueXRoaW5nIHdpdGggT1NDIGlz IHRyYW5zbGF0aW5nIHRoZSBtZXNzYWdlcyB0aGF0IG9uZSBkZXZpY2Ugc2VuZHMgaW50byB0aGUg bWVzc2FnZXM8L2Rpdj48ZGl2PmFub3RoZXIgZGV2aWNlIHJlY29nbml6ZXMuICZuYnNwOyBDYW4g eW91IHVzZSB0aGlzIHdpdGggYm90aCBUb3VjaE9TQyBhbmQgdGhlIG1vbm9tZSBmb3IgZXhhbXBs ZTwvZGl2PjxkaXY+d2hpY2ggaGF2ZSBkaWZmZXJlbnQgT1NDICJ2b2NhYnVsYXJpZXMiPzwvZGl2 Pg0KPGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5KZWZmPC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+ PGJyPjxkaXYgY2xhc3M9ImdtYWlsX3F1b3RlIj5PbiBNb24sIEphbiAxNywgMjAxMSBhdCAzOjI1 IFBNLCBTZWFuIEVjaGV2YXJyaWEgPHNwYW4gZGlyPSJsdHIiPiZsdDs8YSBocmVmPSJtYWlsdG86 ZnVja3RoZXNwYW1AY3JlZXBpbmdmb2cuY29tIj48YSBocmVmPSJtYWlsdG86ZnVja3RoZXNwYW1A Y3JlZXBpbmdmb2cuY29tIj5mdWNrdGhlc3BhbUBjcmVlcGluZ2ZvZy5jb208L2E+PC9hPiZndDs8 L3NwYW4+IHdyb3RlOjxicj4NCjxibG9ja3F1b3RlIGNsYXNzPSJnbWFpbF9xdW90ZSIgc3R5bGU9 Im1hcmdpbjowIDAgMCAuOGV4O2JvcmRlci1sZWZ0OjFweCAjY2NjIHNvbGlkO3BhZGRpbmctbGVm dDoxZXg7Ij5NaXNzaW5nIExpbmsgZ290IGEgYml0IG9mIGEgd3JpdGUgdXA6PGJyPg0KPGEgaHJl Zj0iaHR0cDovL2NyZWF0ZWRpZ2l0YWxtdXNpYy5jb20vMjAxMS8wMS9uZXctc29sdXRpb25zLWZv ci13aXJlbGVzcy1taWRpLW1pZGlvc2MtZGV2ZWxvcGVycy1hbnN3ZXItcXVlc3Rpb25zLyIgdGFy Z2V0PSJfYmxhbmsiPjxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly9jcmVhdGVkaWdpdGFsbXVzaWMuY29tLzIwMTEv MDEvbmV3LXNvbHV0aW9ucy1mb3Itd2lyZWxlc3MtbWlkaS1taWRpb3NjLWRldmVsb3BlcnMtYW5z d2VyLXF1ZXN0aW9ucy8iPmh0dHA6Ly9jcmVhdGVkaWdpdGFsbXVzaWMuY29tLzIwMTEvMDEvbmV3 LXNvbHV0aW9ucy1mb3Itd2lyZWxlc3MtbWlkaS1taWRpb3NjLWRldmVsb3BlcnMtYW5zd2VyLXF1 ZXN0aW9ucy88L2E+PC9hPjxkaXY+DQo8ZGl2PjwvZGl2PjxkaXYgY2xhc3M9Img1Ij48YnI+DQo8 YnI+DQo8YnI+DQo8YnI+DQpBdCAyMDExLjAxLjE3IDAxOjIwIFBNLCBSaWNrIFdhbGtlciB3cm90 ZTo8YnI+DQpJJ20gYmV0YSB0ZXN0aW5nIGxvb3BlciBIYW5zIExpbmRhdWVyJ3MgaW52ZW50aW9u LCAmbmJzcDsndGhlIE1pc3NpbmcgTGluayc8YnI+DQo8YmxvY2txdW90ZSBjbGFzcz0iZ21haWxf cXVvdGUiIHN0eWxlPSJtYXJnaW46MCAwIDAgLjhleDtib3JkZXItbGVmdDoxcHggI2NjYyBzb2xp ZDtwYWRkaW5nLWxlZnQ6MWV4Ij4NCndoaWNoIGlzIGEgd2lyZWxlc3MgT1NDIHRvIE1pZGkgY29u dmVydGVyIGRlc2lnbmVkLCBzcGVjaWZpY2FsbHk8YnI+DQp0byBhbGxvdyBhbiBpVG91Y2gvUGhv bmUvUGFkIHRvIGNvbnRyb2wgYW55IG1pZGkgaW5zdHJ1bWVudCw8YnI+DQpyZW1vdGVseSBhbmQg d2lsbCBzb2x2ZSwgaW4gb25lIGZlbGwgc3dvb3AsIHRoZSBwcm9ibGVtIFBlciBtZW50aW9ucyBh Ym91dCBzdXBwb3J0IGluPGJyPg0KbG9vcGluZyBzb2Z0d2FyZSAob3IgaGFyZHdhcmUpPGJyPg0K PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPg0KPGJyPg0KPC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvZGl2Pjxicj48 L2Rpdj4NCjwvZGl2PjwvYmxvY2txdW90ZT48L2JvZHk+PC9odG1sPg== --Apple-Mail-8--827828716-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 23:30:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D1FD18347C; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=9mS1NsxYXtuQ+6uze4wM9MD1/i/wh3PYAASkSzRJI4M=; b=o1nhRgGaYrQGfoDhBL0d6/J6PIQbwB5TMZhZvtE99uSATUMqQuXDN5KwAf0c4CDR6O Lemj9awKn2AjTMn/8U47Infq3UriO/yE4J/tCRt6QRbuxRDod7VnRgFk1yivJY+yEr2H HxyNlBqHNJmEEsyjsN2tkzKOVNVqpU3BtsmDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=u31CRYeKeABdj8kL9uDSR8ffMoIWnZJWzGcriWoLkPPX81v5Fyx0YcbHdC5276pITw 2oQxATlR/VIKZJSZTBehywCggh68vsZGhL3mzOecu47hLnh3qjPFhFif91xoy35s2pO+ SrPDxkCDUiURfYn+PI8d++rDiUgD2mE5bWX3I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> <20110117215658.2F473183451@arsenic.violacea.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:29:55 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uWk59QEyAsKJij6mZKyJDDbN04s Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8a2e8a5267049a132a32 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:30:16 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8a2e8a5267049a132a32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 YOou need a program between the OSC source and midi... unless the program does it... Bdule I think. I use OSCulator. This picks up the signal from my iPhone and translates it into midi, that appears as a midi input in AudioMulch... In Touch OSC software youmake the controll surfae you need.. I have 4 volume sliders and pan controls for 4 channels of Mobius, and then on another page an XY controller for the patch morph function on the NI Kore Player. Works like a charm, almost everytime! But wait, havent we had this conversation before... obviously Im missing something... just ignore me, have to go to bed... M On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > What I can't figure out from the material available on the Intertubes is > exactly what "receives OSC" means. > Since there are effectively no standards for what OSC messages look like, > one of the challenges in > doing anything with OSC is translating the messages that one device sends > into the messages > another device recognizes. Can you use this with both TouchOSC and the > monome for example > which have different OSC "vocabularies"? > > Jeff > > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Sean Echevarria < > fuckthespam@creepingfog.com> wrote: > >> Missing Link got a bit of a write up: >> >> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midiosc-developers-answer-questions/ >> >> >> >> >> At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, 'the Missing Link' >> >>> which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically >>> to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument, >>> remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions >>> about support in >>> looping software (or hardware) >>> >> >> > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8a2e8a5267049a132a32 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YOou need a program between the OSC source and midi... unless the program d= oes it... Bdule I think.

I use OSCulator. This picks up the signal f= rom my iPhone and translates it into midi, that appears as a midi input in = AudioMulch... In Touch OSC software youmake the controll surfae you need.. = I have 4 volume sliders and pan controls for 4 channels of Mobius, and then= on another page an XY controller for the patch morph function on the NI Ko= re Player. Works like a charm, almost everytime!

But wait, havent we had this conversation before... obviously Im missin= g something... just ignore me, have to go to bed...


M

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Jeff Larson <= span dir=3D"ltr"><jeff.lars= on@sailpoint.com> wrote:
What I can't = figure out from the material available on the Intertubes is exactly what &q= uot;receives OSC" means.
Since there are effectively no standards for what OSC messages look like, o= ne of the challenges in
doing anything with OSC is translating the messages that one device se= nds into the messages
another device recognizes. =A0 Can you use = this with both TouchOSC and the monome for example
which have dif= ferent OSC "vocabularies"?

Jeff



On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Sean Echevarri= a <fuckthespam@creepingfog.com> wrote:
Missing Link got a bit of a write up:
http://create= digitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midiosc-developers= -answer-questions/




At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, =A0'the Miss= ing Link'
which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically
to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument,
remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions about = support in
looping software (or hardware)





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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e8a2e8a5267049a132a32-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 17 23:52:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 954BC18345F; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jLyBt6Z20cnTPVZxMlwV2fU75/MpOcVJJC65iIDPaP0=; b=J/CSQ4Qz7JOl/gLy7JtWBj2zc+Za7+nPF9WOC8zc50D0L9fFq46qEFGp7rOJEiZMlQ FDqp/ChktGSia2Lc1jOONR8hcU5mDtj1oeTyiprUiMFJ7p98yBN3H3uO3Ll1IAK15vds 9T1dfnC6IUv38cYu5oMr1ad7r3DqoopHzDmTM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LH3g8TeTO6F5EbluFzJ5htzedcM2kcJdbFMZZOj/RIuEMWQLaEdVsQXMDftOYKwdXC egf3ZCvXUTJ6mw1aRoYdgxNCjxNXP3PHJ13za43GqRbKfwnrtwhiTTgwACdcTITrYNqB maP9ePrhbwmyFBAfKAXNaMdAFg48N5iN5n4kE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:52:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: strymon el capistan delay pedal-(sound on sound loop mode like a tape loop) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:52:12 +0000 (UTC) looks great thoguh is too bad they didnt include a normal guitar jack input in case i want to use a normal guitar and its amp sims without the GK pickup... On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > That's what you would expect from Eventide! The GR-55 has global > effects that can as well be used on the guitar's analog output signal, > but I don't know if it has any tape delay style effect? > > Here's a good write-up on the GR-55 BTW > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/for-the-digital-guitarist-a-roland-synth-and-processor-in-one-box/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+createdigitalmusic+%28createdigitalmusic.com%29&utm_content=Bloglines > > best > Per > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> the eventide timeafactor does this as well really cool! >> Luis >> >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> Wow Scott, that's an insanely cool looper! Like having the Augustus >>> Loop plugin inside a box. I would buy this looper if laptops would not >>> be available. These kind of "warble/wobble/flutter" processings are my >>> fav and I always keep "tape speed tilt" on a foot pedal. >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >>> www.looproom.com internet music hub >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Scott Hansen wrote: >>>> from folks posting stuff about namm, i saw this on the strymon site: >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n29OncKKC8&feature=player_embedded >>>> >>>> i know there had been lots of talk about this pedal on The Gear Page, but i >>>> never read it. >>>> the video looks very interesting. >>>> >>>> here's what their webpage says about this: >>>> Sound on Sound >>>> Just like one of our favorite moving head tape echo machines, El Capistan >>>> gives you a Sound on Sound mode, but with some cool new features. When you >>>> enter the mode (Single Tape Head, Mode C), the machine is already recording, >>>> just like a traditional tape echo machine. We go several steps further by >>>> giving you instant tape splice and bulk erase functions. It's like having a >>>> built-in tape-style looper! >>>> >>>> To set the length of your tape, press Tap once to set your splice 'in' >>>> point, and press Tap again to set your splice 'out' point. All of the tone >>>> shaping knobs are active and affect your loop as it plays back and >>>> re-records. Press Tap a third time to completely erase the tape. You get 20 >>>> seconds of tape in slow speed, 10 seconds in fast speed. Check out our video >>>> demo below. >>>> >>>> if this is a repeat, please forgive...looks interesting for short loop >>>> options. >>>> s--- >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 00:42:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F4C518345D; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1827 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:42:30 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: woC21f00J0ASqTN0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:12:03 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? In-Reply-To: References: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> <20110117215658.2F473183451@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_1046040617==.ALT" X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20110118004230.D2AB6183453@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:42:31 +0000 (UTC) --=====================_1046040617==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hey Jim - yeah it's me. I use a 'temporary' email address on LD due to the amount of spam I get through LD. When the current one becomes too popular with spammers, I'll dump it, create a new one and the spam will be gone for a good period of time (yes, kind of old school - not ready to hand everything over to gmail...). At 2011.01.17 02:11 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: >Sean thanks, that's pretty neat. As I have an iTOuch at present I'm >rather interested in exploring that option. Forgive me here but are >you the Sean I met at Y2K this past fall? If not sorry to confuse >and thanks for the lead here, hey it is you just recognized your fts email! > >On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Sean Echevarria ><fuckthespam@creepingfog.com> wrote: >Missing Link got a bit of a write up: >http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midiosc-developers-answer-questions/ --=====================_1046040617==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hey Jim - yeah it's me.  I use a 'temporary' email address on LD due to the amount of spam I get through LD.  When the current one becomes too popular with spammers, I'll dump it, create a new one and the spam will be gone for a good period of time (yes, kind of old school - not ready to hand everything over to gmail...).


At 2011.01.17 02:11 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:
Sean thanks, that's pretty neat.  As I have an iTOuch at present I'm rather interested in exploring that option.  Forgive me here but are you the Sean I met at Y2K this past fall? If not sorry to confuse and thanks for the lead here, hey it is you just recognized your fts email! 

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Sean Echevarria < fuckthespam@creepingfog.com> wrote:
Missing Link got a bit of a write up:
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midiosc-developers-answer-questions/
--=====================_1046040617==.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 02:14:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B256B18345D; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=N0n1vrPsJAorqiNJn8DUqS1B7TaFPBhOCEgYqpu4+Ik=; b=Ym1xCPHbBOOwvWrdkd+kBMwBjxItQVPzZa4cFiV5+j7uZd3hBpQ1v7xCNGTsITXG8U +6SE//szL6Aw1E3t5FRESLu5ag/UdSmBI6llR2uFi5n39waMKHSR9PN+wu5MlQ1RvA9p AmC0yzPIhj6KcGITmMr7gwIXwDdZZP4yV9BBU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=K3UuCLA/k5+dYTsKHrK6IgxljGHzp6qN9529A9a4r+1PTNNy4pQU5XEiB+9YQ+6wtl KsTNCTldNZ9LecQckgnz7sEr0C1pRfG9e+oMRI8ZJcy85DLxKOjSNlfzlfQZH2Ayp5Hb ujBiRQHowossubXdsyix8f2t1QhfIEuKLrZQU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <21D379BF-96A6-4E75-9AE2-FA4711041F22@1800dialword.com> References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> <21D379BF-96A6-4E75-9AE2-FA4711041F22@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:14:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:14:26 +0000 (UTC) this is ridiculous,how far are U.S. citizens going to let such things happen?evesdropping,scanning bodies and now this because of homeland security? security from what?jeez after reading this i dont think im interested in getting a U.S. passport anymore! On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Or if you were a wikilink employee as the ones in the article were. I had the same thing happen going hunting into canada a few years ago. They didnt keep my laptop but spent about thirty munutes looking for "child porno or money laundering evidence". > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Jan 16, 2011, at 12:13 PM, "Jeremy devros" wrote: > >> My son just came home from the holidays from Beirut where he is studying at LAU. He brought his laptop home and no such problem. I would think if a person were going to have an issue w/TSA it would happen coming in from the Middle East. >> JD >> >> > Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:22:50 +0100 >> > From: moinsound@googlemail.com >> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > Subject: Is the new Stalin African-American? >> > >> > http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/index.html >> > (via @ilovetypography on twitter). >> > >> > Any of you had experiences similar to those described in this article >> > about DHS/TSA proceedings when entering the US (both for US citizens and >> > others)? >> > >> > Sad to say, but the way this looks, this may require us all either to >> > never enter the US again - or to go back to hardware loopers... >> > >> > Rainer >> > >> > -- >> > http://moinlabs.de >> > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 02:19:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DB8D18345F; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? References: <4D32FF3A.5030709@googlemail.com> <21D379BF-96A6-4E75-9AE2-FA4711041F22@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Thread-Topic: Is the new Stalin African-American? Thread-Index: Acu2thnc9PGvBeXDQa6K0EI2CUN6dw== Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:18:57 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2011 02:19:15.0344 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A66D100:01CBB6B6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:19:19 +0000 (UTC) That will help a lot.=20 Ha, if you think we have any control over what those a'holes do then you are= highly misinformed!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Louie Angulo wrot= e: > this is ridiculous,how far are U.S. citizens going to let such things > happen?evesdropping,scanning bodies and now this because of homeland > security? security from what?jeez after reading this i dont think im > interested in getting a U.S. passport anymore! >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Andy Owens wrote:= >> Or if you were a wikilink employee as the ones in the article were. I had= the same thing happen going hunting into canada a few years ago. They didnt= keep my laptop but spent about thirty munutes looking for "child porno or m= oney laundering evidence". >>=20 >> Andy Owens >> 1-800-AndyOwens >> Sent from my iPhone >> So the typing might not be my best! >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 16, 2011, at 12:13 PM, "Jeremy devros" wr= ote: >>=20 >>> My son just came home from the holidays from Beirut where he is studying= at LAU. He brought his laptop home and no such problem. I would think if a p= erson were going to have an issue w/TSA it would happen coming in from the M= iddle East. >>> JD >>>=20 >>>> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:22:50 +0100 >>>> From: moinsound@googlemail.com >>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> Subject: Is the new Stalin African-American? >>>>=20 >>>> http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/15/laptops/in= dex.html >>>> (via @ilovetypography on twitter). >>>>=20 >>>> Any of you had experiences similar to those described in this article >>>> about DHS/TSA proceedings when entering the US (both for US citizens an= d >>>> others)? >>>>=20 >>>> Sad to say, but the way this looks, this may require us all either to >>>> never enter the US again - or to go back to hardware loopers... >>>>=20 >>>> Rainer >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> http://moinlabs.de >>>> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >>>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 02:23:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85F0518345E; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FJ5Sd2T+Bg10tRohQYRPYaUvNC1n4G1Wr0Llfm5ZVoM=; b=YbUpRifICtLCIJil3DCI+60A+wvZNgkwmARCz/skAkozjqOsdjZXsfRpEcM8MYiVCC +XPaHdrb4hLCOOdJYnMAgnx5FXH1Rkn1tcsWFkXIJp+qkg3D/jPREvVsJBKKvE/KQB6i lLPaHiW9hiLgL+qqfy/6BjEPjL4D6GsocHZTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a2y31DiNcBZ4ZoO9ZycVMeGYKqgHjxRmZpX3w+6jlHneRxZigxpC/KKoR0hbMl8Ycr naKYjT8Ww4/aDDNkQgXpjFr2fg7PejklcDTFruEWUzQI8i0QISrx3AnuAkJ4h3GkTbpr /w3sF//rpBanhdROvr8O6w//WqcsF1aTwahYM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D34B47F.4020409@cruzio.com> References: <4D34B47F.4020409@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:23:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? From: Dennis Moser To: Rick Walker Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Rick, You should also be aware that a number of the iOS apps utilize the motion sensors in the iPod Touch: so you can use gestures as well in your performance to control various parameters (I'm thinking, again, of ThumbJam and MorphWiz that allow you to designate just which parameters that will be...vibrato, flange, whatever!). Exciting times... Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >> >> The beauty of using the iPOD Touch is that it IS NOT a PHONE, so there >> is no cost penalty attached to it. > > So true. > I have an iTouch and have been researching apps for Bill Putnam and > I'm astonished by how much music you can get out of it. > > I remember distinctly feeling like I =A0watching a new paradigm of perfor= mance > when Kevin Spears (aka KalimbaMan) played at the Y2K8 and Y2K9 looping > festivals. > > He was playing small hand held African thumb pianos and then switching ov= er > to playing a Korg Kaossilator.........everything was small, hand held and > it allowed him to make a very cool and visceral performance (just moving = his > body, singing and being the overall awesome and riveting performer that > Kevin > is). > > To add an iTouch rocking emulations of Hang drums and Kotos and Moog > Synthesizers > and Theremins and live looping apps and, and , and > > ......just really ups the whole performance bar. > > I highly recommend buying yourself a used iTouch if you can afford to. > (There's even a $60 Blue microphone for sale that you can use to record a= nd > sample > things for future manipulations---and then send them to your computer to > process > further). > > rick walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 02:42:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F24B183466; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=048gHjKuLEYA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=CrjtqBp0AAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=21YrcA8cTst1ofqPUIUA:9 a=h_Pbc4VEwdot9KFpbXsA:7 a=MJNrn7YPlAMLgqGIs1Hnb3ZNbNwA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:42:12 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <2027554424.4917134.1295318532164.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: RE: NAMM Blog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 44 X-Originating-IP: [24.216.248.15] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <9uwLE.A.4vB.G4PNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Andy, I appreciate you acting as "roving reporter" for those of us who couldn't go to NAMM this year. I liked knowing about a lot of the things you pionted out on the list. Many thanks. Ted On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > There's some zoe pics and a short vid on my blog www.andyowens.com > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:54 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jim Goodin >> wrote: >>> although as you point out it may still be another gen or two before >>> the iPad >>> can handle audio processing. >> >> If audio processing is not being supported with the gen 2 iPad I >> doubt >> it will never be. If contemplating Apple's typical marketing >> strategies I see a fair chance (risk) that the iPad story will evolve >> like those Mackbook Air laptopts; i.e. product design targeting >> ordinary people that do web surfing, typing and music listening with >> the machine. And the selling point Apple stresses is the cool design, >> these peep's want to show off a nice looking gadget on the coffee >> shop >> table. Musican friendly (read "powerful enough") laptops can not be >> designed in such a slick manner. Funny but also a bit sad facts of >> life. >> >>> Bet NAMM was neat. Jim >> >> I only was there virtually. But it was virtually awesome! I'm >> non-virtually interested in the GR-55 that I find almost >> revolutionary >> ;-)) (would fit in great with a "day job band" I'm playing with) >> >> Per >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 02:43:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00D4118345B; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=D0TOWQdJ+FUQLCclXqnj0EBpFj/uSxClY7/OUElJEgk=; b=mqtT+dkgICddQ8K42i9J2CqDrQ1MWMRsBO49OScNaEym2S0nmJpuPvceFaV0EHsCf8 ZCdyOLtEGZ/HJu950h7CAfyg0G9sqz7lp7YM3JKh4ZdepVpSttGuknYo9l+fckO3vzWU AVCg47+m1ZwiXoxtTG2lOsxL3NrQL5pDmdth4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rWEQcDwzwiSrDZPJvMdj4ulRKE6fyIl9JpIqZFvk9cU5l0ACTnd1DTY6bq1MLuGbka dfMvy1U19DDVwa4iddQ1gdGUNPncdJeSzjWZ2TNbAZzssXa0G1LpyDijlnMHJH0PH7Qt 7TkpMsXJ0tA+VOoRVjEYiLyrWvgnTYsv95x5c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D345243.9010903@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D345243.9010903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:43:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-nkPKB.A.c2B.h5PNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Im interested in the LP2s midi capabilities,i think thats what would also make it a seller and beat the upcoming new stomp loopers competition,none of them seem to be midi. if i may suggest some essential midi functions which are also in the EDP Start/stop MuteReAlign - Immediately Mute and restart the loop at next Global MIDI StartPoint QuantMIDIStartSong - Wait to next Local Loop StartPoint and then send a StartSong MuteQuantMIDIStartSong - Immediately Mute, then wait to next StartPoint and send StartSong Retrigger if it did this the LP2 combined with the Adrenalinn would b the bomb! Luis On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM, andy butler wrote: > > > Matt Davignon wrote: >> >> The effects look like looping-related commands. > >> I don't know what the "retrigger" or "replace" ones do. It looks like >> you can assign the above effects to 2 footswitches. >> > > > I've discussed those briefly with Rick, and plus a bit of speculation. > > Replace 1/x is a direct emulation of a certain specific edp behaviour, > (also present on LP1). > It replaces a single quantised chunk of the loop with input audio. > In EDPish it's a "Shortpress of Quantised 8th Replace". > > I'm quite excited by that, while that effect has been around since > 2003 it's was always somewhat hidden away in the more expensive products. > If it catches on it could open up a lot of interest in the whole > "looper as instrument" idea. > > I guess the vanilla Replace would be unquantised momentary > (replace for as long as button is held) > In that case, it's possible that quantised replaces will also > cut out larger chunks if held for longer (but > Retrigger is more or less what's offered by the DL4 > Retrigger Once. Play the loop once from beginning then stop. > Continue. Retrigger Continuous. Retrigger loop from beginning and keep > going. > Retrigger Random. Jump to a random point in the loop. > The Random Retrigger is intended to be used rhythmically, > I guess the loop would be filled with a variety of > sounds (with slow attacks) so that rapid operation of the randtrig > produced a well defined beat. > Again, that's a very "looper as instrument" type feature. > > > I don't think it's been pointed out yet that the LP2 > has a Mix control (back panel) which, unusually for a small looper, makes it > suitable for use on an Aux send. > > andy butler > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 02:50:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06B30183466; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MPZRWnKWQgzJFrDTR4Yg5g)" X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101170207 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-17_10:2011-01-17,2011-01-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101170207 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-17_10:2011-01-17,2011-01-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-17_10:2011-01-17,2011-01-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101170166 From: John Metzler Subject: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:05:13 -0800 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D34B299.8050805@cruzio.com> <20110117215658.2F473183451@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-id: <618376C5-C9AF-462B-BCBD-D044C3359E92@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:50:17 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_MPZRWnKWQgzJFrDTR4Yg5g) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I haven't read this whole thread but I did want to mention the reason I bought an iPhone. Pro Remote by Far Out Labs. It is unbelievably incredible. It sets up a Wireless MIDI server in AMS and connects to Pro Remote and uses the HUI protocol to control Pro Tools and Logic and Ableton Live and more. I admit, it is a little pricy for an iPhone/iPad app, but it is priceless once you start using it. Not only can I use a transport from the vocal booth to control my DAW and record myself with far less pain than before, even punch in/out and a SMPTE display. But when an intern doesn't show up on time and you need to be setting levels on gear in the live room and simultaneously visually checking the meters in Pro Tools, the app starts to pay for it's self. The point about this app that is most applicable to the topic is that it also has drum pads, an XY pad, and a cross fader that you can use to send wireless MIDI commands to plug-ins in your DAW. And now that I have an iPhone, I find that I actually love using some of the other music apps. Like Nano Studio and Everyday Looper, they're a blast. And Novation even made a decent and very affordable Automap iPhone app, that can wirelessly control quite a bit. ---John M. On Jan 17, 2011, at 3:29 PM, mark francombe wrote: > YOou need a program between the OSC source and midi... unless the program does it... Bdule I think. > > I use OSCulator. This picks up the signal from my iPhone and translates it into midi, that appears as a midi input in AudioMulch... In Touch OSC software youmake the controll surfae you need.. I have 4 volume sliders and pan controls for 4 channels of Mobius, and then on another page an XY controller for the patch morph function on the NI Kore Player. Works like a charm, almost everytime! > > But wait, havent we had this conversation before... obviously Im missing something... just ignore me, have to go to bed... > > > M > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > What I can't figure out from the material available on the Intertubes is exactly what "receives OSC" means. > Since there are effectively no standards for what OSC messages look like, one of the challenges in > doing anything with OSC is translating the messages that one device sends into the messages > another device recognizes. Can you use this with both TouchOSC and the monome for example > which have different OSC "vocabularies"? > > Jeff > > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Sean Echevarria wrote: > Missing Link got a bit of a write up: > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-wireless-midi-midiosc-developers-answer-questions/ > > > > > At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention, 'the Missing Link' > which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically > to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument, > remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions about support in > looping software (or hardware) > > > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no --Boundary_(ID_MPZRWnKWQgzJFrDTR4Yg5g) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I = haven't read this whole thread but I did want to mention the reason I = bought an iPhone.  Pro Remote by Far = Out Labs.  It is unbelievably incredible.  It sets up a = Wireless MIDI server in AMS and connects to Pro Remote and uses the HUI = protocol to control Pro Tools and Logic and Ableton Live and more. =  I admit, it is a little pricy for an iPhone/iPad app, but it is = priceless once you start using it.  Not only can I use a transport = from the vocal booth to control my DAW and record myself with far less = pain than before, even punch in/out and a SMPTE display.  But when = an intern doesn't show up on time and you need to be setting levels on = gear in the live room and simultaneously visually checking the meters in = Pro Tools, the app starts to pay for it's self.  The point about = this app that is most applicable to the topic is that it also has drum = pads, an XY pad, and a cross fader that you can use to send wireless = MIDI commands to plug-ins in your DAW.  

And now = that I have an iPhone, I find that I actually love using some of the = other music apps.  Like Nano Studio and Everyday Looper, they're a = blast.  And Novation even made a decent and very affordable Automap = iPhone app, that can wirelessly control quite a = bit.

---John M.
On Jan 17, 2011, = at 3:29 PM, mark francombe wrote:

YOou need = a program between the OSC source and midi... unless the program does = it... Bdule I think.

I use OSCulator. This picks up the signal = from my iPhone and translates it into midi, that appears as a midi input = in AudioMulch... In Touch OSC software youmake the controll surfae you = need.. I have 4 volume sliders and pan controls for 4 channels of = Mobius, and then on another page an XY controller for the patch morph = function on the NI Kore Player. Works like a charm, almost = everytime!

But wait, havent we had this conversation before... obviously Im = missing something... just ignore me, have to go to = bed...


M


On Mon, Jan = 17, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>= ; wrote:
What I = can't figure out from the material available on the Intertubes is = exactly what "receives OSC" means.
Since there are effectively no standards for what OSC messages look = like, one of the challenges in
doing anything with OSC is translating the messages that one device = sends into the messages
another device recognizes.   Can = you use this with both TouchOSC and the monome for = example
which have different OSC "vocabularies"?

Jeff



On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM, = Sean Echevarria <fuckthespam@creepingfog.com> wrote:
Missing Link got a bit of a write up:
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/new-solutions-for-= wireless-midi-midiosc-developers-answer-questions/




At 2011.01.17 01:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
I'm beta testing looper Hans Lindauer's invention,  'the Missing = Link'
which is a wireless OSC to Midi converter designed, specifically
to allow an iTouch/Phone/Pad to control any midi instrument,
remotely and will solve, in one fell swoop, the problem Per mentions = about support in
looping software (or hardware)





--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter = @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no

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Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: <4D345243.9010903@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Thread-Topic: LP2 at namm Thread-Index: Acu2vINWHN/7vnylTieuc3HRNpjH7g== Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:04:49 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2011 03:05:08.0701 (UTC) FILETIME=[8387C0D0:01CBB6BC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:05:09 +0000 (UTC) It has midi in out but not sure about control. You are right about all the o= thers, like the vox, no midi.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:43 PM, Louie Angulo wrot= e: > Im interested in the LP2s midi capabilities,i think thats what would > also make it a seller and beat the upcoming new stomp loopers > competition,none of them seem to be midi. > if i may suggest some essential midi functions which are also in the EDP >=20 > Start/stop > MuteReAlign - Immediately Mute and restart the loop at next Global > MIDI StartPoint > QuantMIDIStartSong - Wait to next Local Loop StartPoint and then send > a StartSong > MuteQuantMIDIStartSong - Immediately Mute, then wait to next > StartPoint and send StartSong > Retrigger >=20 > if it did this the LP2 combined with the Adrenalinn would b the bomb! > Luis >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM, andy butler wrot= e: >>=20 >>=20 >> Matt Davignon wrote: >>>=20 >>> The effects look like looping-related commands. >>=20 >>> I don't know what the "retrigger" or "replace" ones do. It looks like >>> you can assign the above effects to 2 footswitches. >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I've discussed those briefly with Rick, and plus a bit of speculation. >>=20 >> Replace 1/x is a direct emulation of a certain specific edp behaviour, >> (also present on LP1). >> It replaces a single quantised chunk of the loop with input audio. >> In EDPish it's a "Shortpress of Quantised 8th Replace". >>=20 >> I'm quite excited by that, while that effect has been around since >> 2003 it's was always somewhat hidden away in the more expensive products.= >> If it catches on it could open up a lot of interest in the whole >> "looper as instrument" idea. >>=20 >> I guess the vanilla Replace would be unquantised momentary >> (replace for as long as button is held) >> In that case, it's possible that quantised replaces will also >> cut out larger chunks if held for longer (but >> Retrigger is more or less what's offered by the DL4 >> Retrigger Once. Play the loop once from beginning then stop. >> Continue. Retrigger Continuous. Retrigger loop from beginning and keep >> going. >> Retrigger Random. Jump to a random point in the loop. >> The Random Retrigger is intended to be used rhythmically, >> I guess the loop would be filled with a variety of >> sounds (with slow attacks) so that rapid operation of the randtrig >> produced a well defined beat. >> Again, that's a very "looper as instrument" type feature. >>=20 >>=20 >> I don't think it's been pointed out yet that the LP2 >> has a Mix control (back panel) which, unusually for a small looper, makes= it >> suitable for use on an Aux send. >>=20 >> andy butler >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 03:49:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C616718345B; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-18_01:2011-01-17,2011-01-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101170219 Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: John Metzler In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:49:32 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <1F20404A-595D-4C31-AF2F-9C60664D2B28@me.com> References: <4D345243.9010903@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:49:50 +0000 (UTC) I'm also interested in the LP2's MIDI capabilities. I'm interested in = all the Loopers and delay's that have good solid MIDI implantation. = Especially in the sync department. I mean, with out it there is no good = way to keep things aligned. It's totally necessary unless your are only = interested in using the one looper and doing simple layering, and no = other accompaniment such as drums machines, or programmed keyboards. = Especially if you want to use interesting live loops along with a live = drummer and a band, you really need to have some sort of click or = flashing light for everyone to follow. I know, you can create a loop = and have the band adhere to that loop very closely, but I find that it = just doesn't leave you with enough safety and security to do anything = interesting. =20 (As you know Luis) I'm currently fighting with a pair of EDPs and an MPC = 1000, trying to get them all to stick to the clock from the MPC. They = drift and my performance sounds drunk at best, and a train wreck at the = worst. I also have an AdreanaLinn (the A2, not the newer A3). I find = the 2 measure drum loops to stay in sync quite well. It even stays in = line when switching presets by sending it Program changes throughout a = sequence. Even if that program change is sent in a strange place within = the 2 measures. Unfortunately I don't really like the guitar modeling = sounds very much, and the input of the unit clips and distorts pretty = easly. I like the interesting electro-clash industrial electronic = sounding drum sounds. I love the synced effects, why more units haven't = employ this feature is beyond me. One thing to take note of with the = AdreanaLinn is that if you are playing guitar through it and send = program changed to it to change to a different preset or drumbeat, you = will hear it drop out or click. =20 John M. On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Im interested in the LP2s midi capabilities,i think thats what would > also make it a seller and beat the upcoming new stomp loopers > competition,none of them seem to be midi. > if i may suggest some essential midi functions which are also in the = EDP >=20 > Start/stop > MuteReAlign - Immediately Mute and restart the loop at next Global > MIDI StartPoint > QuantMIDIStartSong - Wait to next Local Loop StartPoint and then send > a StartSong > MuteQuantMIDIStartSong - Immediately Mute, then wait to next > StartPoint and send StartSong > Retrigger >=20 > if it did this the LP2 combined with the Adrenalinn would b the bomb! > Luis >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM, andy butler = wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> Matt Davignon wrote: >>>=20 >>> The effects look like looping-related commands. >>=20 >>> I don't know what the "retrigger" or "replace" ones do. It looks = like >>> you can assign the above effects to 2 footswitches. >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I've discussed those briefly with Rick, and plus a bit of = speculation. >>=20 >> Replace 1/x is a direct emulation of a certain specific edp = behaviour, >> (also present on LP1). >> It replaces a single quantised chunk of the loop with input audio. >> In EDPish it's a "Shortpress of Quantised 8th Replace". >>=20 >> I'm quite excited by that, while that effect has been around since >> 2003 it's was always somewhat hidden away in the more expensive = products. >> If it catches on it could open up a lot of interest in the whole >> "looper as instrument" idea. >>=20 >> I guess the vanilla Replace would be unquantised momentary >> (replace for as long as button is held) >> In that case, it's possible that quantised replaces will also >> cut out larger chunks if held for longer (but >> Retrigger is more or less what's offered by the DL4 >> Retrigger Once. Play the loop once from beginning then stop. >> Continue. Retrigger Continuous. Retrigger loop from beginning and = keep >> going. >> Retrigger Random. Jump to a random point in the loop. >> The Random Retrigger is intended to be used rhythmically, >> I guess the loop would be filled with a variety of >> sounds (with slow attacks) so that rapid operation of the randtrig >> produced a well defined beat. >> Again, that's a very "looper as instrument" type feature. >>=20 >>=20 >> I don't think it's been pointed out yet that the LP2 >> has a Mix control (back panel) which, unusually for a small looper, = makes it >> suitable for use on an Aux send. >>=20 >> andy butler >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 04:43:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD6A3183451; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=GoX4m2r6VQi+DbAyUt/SsPlhFSMEwe35ZhXdx/zD5cU=; b=SeWLlougmPzWjGVqA8E8+omcLQ7eD7BzTPWmJejef+dl91JeyshGhcj1SnJtwoBthf bXcBf1kcLQiFMc0D5kW8qYZv4o46IB5iTWnUKnJmoIIPK1w4m/4HgFmNUOyaJwGDhJ7k tmiQg0tur1U1wzn/U0jhjtZZSJ7oqxRCAAKjw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :x-priority:sensitivity:importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type :mime-version; b=kg1AVyuiQrV65iP1RQPrq90g1XL+rHezV+UsWKf4LoBPpfI10ZjonW5oNRRMZCRhD1 n62TS2Xxc02zg8eksjCVQ3fU9KBGT+X2/ENHzOUTUOOVorocBEESSQ/NATH2R8ZtmVOu pCubJxwHU5nGQrzm4q1S2jjsG/JWrU6Sed4P0= X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1466128111 Message-ID:<1466128111-1295325828-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1759323707-@bda2355.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Reply-To: gnarlyheman@gmail.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Re: Is the new Stalin African-American? From: gnarlyheman@gmail.com Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:43:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Qydtb24gTG91aWUsIGlzbid0IHlvdXIgZmFtaWx5IHN0aWxsIGluIFNhbiBEaWVnbz8NClNlbnQg b24gdGhlIFNwcmludK4gTm93IE5ldHdvcmsgZnJvbSBteSBCbGFja0JlcnJ5rg== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 11:48:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4C7E183454; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:48:34 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Luis Angulo wrote: >> > Im interested in the LP2s midi capabilities,i think thats what would >> > also make it a seller and beat the upcoming new stomp loopers >> > competition,none of them seem to be midi. >> > if i may suggest some essential midi functions which are also in the EDP >> > >> > Start/stop >> > MuteReAlign - Immediately Mute and restart the loop at next Global >> > MIDI StartPoint >> > QuantMIDIStartSong - Wait to next Local Loop StartPoint and then send >> > a StartSong >> > MuteQuantMIDIStartSong - Immediately Mute, then wait to next >> > StartPoint and send StartSong >> > Retrigger >> > >> > if it did this the LP2 combined with the Adrenalinn would b the bomb! >> > Luis The LP-2 Mini Looper is a stomp box pedal, Luis and couldn't possibly have all the features you suggest and be able to be priced as inexpensively as it is. The LP-2 sends and receives midi clock: pure and simple. It is a mono unit and has input volume control and an LED VU meter for input volume (unlike others on the market). It stores 8 loops (and records them automatically while you improvise). It has 30 levels of undo. It has feedback control (with an additional expression pedal). Through 4 buttons It has control of these loop effects: 1/2 speed, 1/4 speed (nothing else has this), reverse, re-trigger (one shot), re-trigger (continuous), trigger (random-nothing has this either), continue (restart where you last stopped), momentary control of replace, Q-replace in increments of 8th, 16th, triplet 8th, triplet 16ths and in 7/8, 9/8, 10/8 as well as 1/64 (manual glitching) it runs on a 9va battery or typical 9va, 300ma, tip,neg walwart, It is the same size of two stomp box pedals. It's feature set is finished, costs $300, street price and ships on March 1st. Check the market. That's an astonishing amount of features at that price. I used it for two solid days at NAMM and there's a lot of music in it.........a lot! . It may not have every single thing you want, Luis, but it has better fidelity than the EDP and you can buy two of them to sync together for the price of a used EDP these days. And, if that doesn't float your boat, I've got 2 EDPs with very few miles on them for sale right now. You can have all the features you desire. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 12:10:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A780183459; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D358338.2080702@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:10:32 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Larson CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: Worth getting iPod touch for Live Looping only? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:10:38 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Can you use this with both TouchOSC and the monome for example > which have different OSC "vocabularies"? > You really need to ask Hans Lindauer the answer to this question, Jeff. I don't honestly know the answer. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 13:03:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25A59183451; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 567712743/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.115/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.115 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMBAI8eNU1YbRpz/2dsb2JhbAAMljTRI4VQBI42 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,339,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="567712743" Message-ID: <4D358F95.7000903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:03:17 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > > The LP-2 sends and receives midi clock: pure and simple. It is a mono > unit and has input volume control and > an LED VU meter for input volume (unlike others on the market). Right, that's not visible in the pics. The photos seem to show a mix control, is that right? ( a way to defeat the dry signal would be needed in a "two LP2 in parallel" setup ) > It > stores 8 loops (and records them automatically while you improvise). So there's no way to access those 8 loops during performance? > costs $300, street price and ships on > March 1st. any idea of the price in UK/Europe? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 16:41:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FDFA183459; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=al/X7MwaW2pEOrSZS16QVHrrMYE/FSbcY13IbR1Vads=; b=OPfZ1LiPTtL1ZnEAFz7XMJFW6yIe0SV+KxKlnDhEd6Upqj4ybkNO6FejVDPlTkAQCK lEV6R9SQK3DeKzBxENP+P/XMTzaFUrAx3se2sbnpbTbSdzzR5f1hqTxja5fO5s6nlHj6 IsQsnDSQCxNGmhWqe6oYthlEHq0OOINrdrB6s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a1RlhnV42EgN4/zB8UxYLWYHoApzXwFbFEbEKgBM9kb5k2xZ4NObCVXxKNIqsgK5DT J8hBlYFfCV+K1GNXSBGrC4isb5DSQ0FeLinpiUyxOg0YED4jpX3UKOi8iRQklZBh+B5+ EeJdSAN5S/oioPVo0voqjN4aA/06FDMS7Z1Hs= Message-ID: <4D35C284.1090807@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:40:36 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: <4D345243.9010903@tiscali.co.uk> <1F20404A-595D-4C31-AF2F-9C60664D2B28@me.com> In-Reply-To: <1F20404A-595D-4C31-AF2F-9C60664D2B28@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:41:13 +0000 (UTC) John Metzler schrieb: > Especially in the sync department. I mean, with out it there is no good way to keep things aligned. It's totally necessary unless your are only interested in using the one looper and doing simple layering, and no other accompaniment such as drums machines, or programmed keyboards. I'm begging to differ here. "It's totally necessary" - that sentence is only true if you include "and if you're only interested in music with an extremely strict, deterministic relationship and don't want to have the hassle of keeping two loopers in sync yourself". A lot of people from this list have done test runs using two Boss DD20 delays (which don't allow for sync) and had them synced by simply pressing the tap button at exactly the same time - due to the very small tolerances of the DD20's clock circuit, this seems to work. Then again, you can do stuff where you deliberately work with some "odd" timing relationship, which can both be fun with two loopers and with looper and drum machine/programmed keyboards, e.g. the second part of this: http://moinlabs.bandcamp.com/track/fook-yew-people-who-annoy-you (that repeating guitar riff is not synced to the rest). > Especially if you want to use interesting live loops along with a live drummer and a band, you really need to have some sort of click or flashing light for everyone to follow. I know, you can create a loop and have the band adhere to that loop very closely, but I find that it just doesn't leave you with enough safety and security to do anything interesting. > Again, no - there's at least two other ways, one of which works without MIDI: manually (or footoally) retrigger the loop. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 18:22:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 945ED183459; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=G8qoJBFVj5hH7eXzd36ODgPWGhFuMdrBvAxMVihWYWA=; b=bJM7oU/LDuTox3S0J1Jryg3dBf00k/ummVeTwtW8cWfcx5j0sGy4Hq8nt6WnZLPilv lWD7mDX7yKaEWGmoyBFuaI3YkP4svtJZKv1ZbO3WgNFKeqJAroIszCTvEQkgH9LNQPnl hNIwyG2niepb6mte0zEwPAxm0JHo1/LIFzuTU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ii/z0kW3kGIB2Kq8/Ywt+tCk9DjsLkgoZv3F5FQP6/L0n2ms3x9FrdhdIhlhPNeBfz peEelGSEKFpialjmuYccjxuz9TB3hZc72EaHfU5lECPB6M3WrlCN4SuHenCndrN5sYMc pUx8EvA/la8wLAX2dpnLiULWoO5QC7C7Kj8p8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:22:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: LP2 Video demo with Rick From: Tony K To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdeaab9432d049a22faac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:22:15 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bdeaab9432d049a22faac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.guitarplayer.com/GearVideo.aspx?bctid=753735222001&bclid=27948268001 -- -==-=-=- Tony --0015174bdeaab9432d049a22faac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.guitarplayer.com/GearVideo.aspx?bctid=753735222001&bclid=27948268001

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--0015174bdeaab9432d049a22faac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 18:40:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2D8C183459; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7We/hDwkqAor4Bu0SuK/R/uWTC2y32p+3ZzdUVl7D7c=; b=sbVFc+YBQvXvuZOKvfCjO3gXBg27W29Yk+WlqV/XgtIaEYaSklAh4F6b1Nlv1UPuA/ pdDze2XHehbu520rytZUqslG7P/oAhcDkB0xrBnoE1ksrvHREdYI8ngUjM/6G842wO8i TkVeCctsgWuH4qZmLKYF7PRxEYzzdamELfsa8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PD1yJ8Ol4UIMKNMrUmtSMfZ/+ImYQZof8tLewH3RTIccyUk41OsKcLt0OTR7AoD14J /+t4GyROSRxWv2ZuIwLhF2gXhuZn1Kx4QRc3GNY1uU7JIBMSc65th/mvjcSxP9FsyZ3E i26OVVeC+mm8eR0buJTddp7+vYpOT1BZYXvYY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:40:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 Video demo with Rick From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a203a7919e049a233d8f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:40:57 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a203a7919e049a233d8f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable excellent demo Rick On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Tony K wrote: > > http://www.guitarplayer.com/GearVideo.aspx?bctid=3D753735222001&bclid=3D2= 7948268001 > > -- > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a203a7919e049a233d8f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable excellent demo Rick

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 = at 1:22 PM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
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--20cf3054a203a7919e049a233d8f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 21:56:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F7ED183459; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1PqYEmrfKCjultWj2MGNXF0NCVHDbpLYshkPvxAQlRA=; b=pNoZQrVUTVFtDg2ef8RDy26lhok5vCyUoxqUiJFIEvi0SHLm/ixQzWpZz6add1o3vE 18iTm2XLRU7D8jWtamYq9dp7J+HoxenQJ7Kl78v7OJuzCSFGSJLy+2/csafk4SZIAfvK SoWd1uVFS4MUEEPvN+2G+YOdb6rLfT95kaJ1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IfXgHfzufVo3emprj31pDTqOtTO+vyfk8GUPK/jW63mSuz0AMfdJ8B3w1UH7zxy78o gHVrs0CsgGOwwF3PlJN5ZNUIUW3vcCzz0AU5Hk8xh8bOKuPDQXXC5YVyje+YkmMF3vzW 5mZ46z5ue+H9PXtip+TikF43KgUcrZ01DnsNs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:56:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:56:17 +0000 (UTC) that defeats the purpose bro,i got 2 EDPs as well and they do rock my boat, but i want stomps and no more racks! so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on the market it would be sad if it didnt,perhaps there are folks out there that dont want to use all the glitchy stuff. C mon give us those 2 at least Bob! cheers Luis > > And, if that doesn't float your boat, =A0I've got 2 EDPs with very few mi= les > on them for sale right now. > You can have all the features you desire. > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 22:29:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD630183459; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-7--745016344"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:29:22 -0500 Thread-Topic: LP2 at namm Thread-Index: Acu3XzMT2EOjgnUASyeAtqtam77qWA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2011 22:29:42.0288 (UTC) FILETIME=[336F0100:01CBB75F] Resent-Message-ID: <6NoaCB.A.s6G.XRhNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:29:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--745016344 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Luis, One word for you: LP1 I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here regarding a ha= rdware looper that the LP1 doesnt address, plus eight independant loops.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:56 PM, "Louie Angulo" wr= ote: > that defeats the purpose bro,i got 2 EDPs as well and they do rock my > boat, but i want stomps and no more racks! > so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on the > market it would be sad if it didnt,perhaps there are folks out there > that dont want to use all the glitchy stuff. > C mon give us those 2 at least Bob! > cheers > Luis >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > > And, if that doesn't float your boat, I've got 2 EDPs with very few mil= es > > on them for sale right now. > > You can have all the features you desire. > > > > rick walker > > > > >=20 --Apple-Mail-7--745016344 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Luis,

One word for you:

LP1

I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here regarding a hardware looper that the LP1 doesnt address, plus eight independant loops. 

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:56 PM, "Louie Angulo" <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:

that defeats the purpose bro,i got 2 EDPs as well and they do rock my
boat, but i want stomps and no more racks!
so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on the
market it would be sad if it didnt,perhaps there are folks out there
that dont want to use all the glitchy stuff.
C mon give us those 2 at least Bob!
cheers
Luis





>
> And, if that doesn't float your boat,  I've got 2 EDPs with very few miles
> on them for sale right now.
> You can have all the features you desire.
>
> rick walker
>
>

--Apple-Mail-7--745016344-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 23:03:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE356183451; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R3CZbArIv4t2cPiOAddQ8OE6q5R7NEssCNwp9BqGiLQ=; b=YVmSe2niV3QArrnLEk7zFvFU/Zdglt239zX3riJ+uWU0Gruy7npka9ZcTCqesB2ABd a8sLdTq5AqeCLzSLRI8koi9yUJY0HSM6CFPP/JPxr0rFxJTdA9AWokJRg3eMa+sh2Yyl kO6ocfP4FGKVTi5/NmpSsV/dHosC+6D15+fQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JPkBLca0CvvotJPP4vbFnICClBq2ZZX4IGcVPGJouTQ2kI5H0Iyt4oLcJwkVON3ZtG bqaPm9aaegSZRNgLlmxIvq6uVVNMpatv7etlrkmg9wUmvH2NKrr1OuqJ+nnDUCB02ZZ4 AVx5+5QHwfUhNgrEpuGTdyNG+tQIP4tmGUHDc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:03:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 Video demo with Rick From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9edQmC.A.muH.qwhNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:03:06 +0000 (UTC) thats rocking Rick congrats!!! Luis On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > excellent demo Rick > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Tony K wrote: >> >> >> http://www.guitarplayer.com/GearVideo.aspx?bctid=3D753735222001&bclid=3D= 27948268001 >> >> -- >> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- >> Tony > > > > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 23:04:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7165E18345A; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuIFAPSqNU1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACWKI4atzmMFoVQBIRviVM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,340,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="94927601" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Mothership of MIDI controllers? Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:07:18 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXe4IByTvU From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 23:11:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 100DC18345B; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rJIfaZ44hG9bOVcGoyUDy+Idq6HbIKIB8J24MsKfL9c=; b=WIlbebqBUAoxuVbIBd+ZkoSH7G0+83Vt6+JjYNFitnLWXWJ93RIMOtYRJGpqEvexvp erZCYNCXZOSbHy6NY/+Zook2xNrdcIT52ot4BbDuYBFhYuEB+T1ZuLSxo8uGypZjme6K 8tRBDTwOfJki1tZ14z7w3QP2/0MEIh9htrOQk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mDi0MFan5b7MXdN/SVqMHuBZ5XL4D2oxXKNadAjoiHwCcTDDVEmazaAJx+6EnK/rsN +h7Blxly/pmUYaB7i50fUXJKXnzZrnqaH/HeSVzJCy6hUTus+M6FDbU/ShLSz9a0kKqS 3GZk1jixOi+4hs6v1uacsIZqWcqs0Bn7lz+0o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:10:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:11:30 +0000 (UTC) oh yes i know thats a great one and i owned it for a while, but im minimizing now to a pedalboard since im doing pub gigs where space is critical as well as setup time,so i still have hopes for a stomp with simple midi capabilities. i had high hopes for the eventide time factor,it has 12 sec looper and is midi and though it send a start and stop comand to my adrenalinn the loop will not stay in sync with it.Most stomp midi devices dont put any effort on syncing the looper,but only the delays.it would have been cool because you can pitch shift the loop and you can degrate it so it sounds lo-fi.plus its small size is perfect for a pedalboard. damn they almost did it! Luis On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Luis, > One word for you: > LP1 > I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here regarding a > hardware looper that the LP1 doesnt address, plus eight independant loops= . > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:56 PM, "Louie Angulo" > wrote: > > that defeats the purpose bro,i got 2 EDPs as well and they do rock my > boat, but i want stomps and no more racks! > so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on the > market it would be sad if it didnt,perhaps there are folks out there > that dont want to use all the glitchy stuff. > C mon give us those 2 at least Bob! > cheers > Luis > > > > > >> >> And, if that doesn't float your boat, =A0I've got 2 EDPs with very few m= iles >> on them for sale right now. >> You can have all the features you desire. >> >> rick walker >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 23:13:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A52B183454; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z5eMMvwF1aDFO1dZbGlE+myDw5BLQOh8wxBQGjIp3To=; b=LWA302TAVGwcQnHygHClWXRb7bl11To+h2ILdynO8Ko8W+db4NWaunx+okhzXTK8P8 zKIMXXRyO6vkujW477owA+yLNLKihS2keKOvEbQvNfg39Z0o48atNDFnDqIQBEthpWtM kRq8la4x4mjtPlaX2J6WPOQit/kyNHOMLyIrE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=yBhGLnj2iD25GPfMhW5wkMBwm1GhJ2NPFDhOoVSATJUhe29bNbcSLSYsM9Q0Yq98/8 kF0FMBcoEjnp5wLs6X/3aH164lV8xYQ+H5Fcd89WepvMAHOEzRLPFYp5pdwM0Am1mraN DwgPzV42nKWT58zmyeqolrLOjGeeXWUNE/lJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:13:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mothership of MIDI controllers? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:13:22 +0000 (UTC) wow! RJM is a great company,ive been checking out their RG 16 awesome! they realy have great products,they also have the compact mastermind which is wonderful to control the RG16 Luis On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > Maybe? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXe4IByTvU > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 23:25:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D88318345A; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=77j0WHyk78j4mDTVAYhg/xQlvzuaXVNWfV4QJWhgEHo=; b=QfQzfbp64LThUpNvHWAfkRBRhV/lMibSVY7HxQ2lUNKFgy36Jys69ftysw/cz6h2ax FPLzBRc1M0x9AlmZq7iKDQ810KG6vozV+E3v7/urgSFFIIQwHCLW4rh0qQip4duORtwq moxKfKNZ0Cywp/zonltr4/lT3MPqOUa3iNLcI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Gv+KAzcsFzpSk9nxMaMr9EG1rBYe0+ULTK25altLFyImuJ5osuHoucAh3ba3Rsvig+ Cz5P4jaVzCp0krXFJCH3BXKQkypj+Aric5JEZf4zN7iptH4l4devHqdhyXNQT4B8M9pR fGkKnKXlQ1ylNxjpDDyPi07ysUoM3HnlzB/qs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1F20404A-595D-4C31-AF2F-9C60664D2B28@me.com> References: <4D345243.9010903@tiscali.co.uk> <1F20404A-595D-4C31-AF2F-9C60664D2B28@me.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:25:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2IrzUD.A.9h.oFiNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Hey John, well i dont really use its amp simulations and FXs for guitar anymore,although they are awesome,i find that the adrenalinn sucks up too much tone unfortunately. But i use them for the drums!! try those filers and amp simlutations plus the distortions on them and it turns the drums into a whole new instument, try it out! thats why im so insistent on finding a stomp midi looper that will slave a drum machine like this,very fun and it can spice up your performance! Luis On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:49 AM, John Metzler wrote: > I'm also interested in the LP2's MIDI capabilities. =A0I'm interested in = all the Loopers and delay's that have good solid MIDI implantation. =A0Espe= cially in the sync department. =A0I mean, with out it there is no good way = to keep things aligned. =A0It's totally necessary unless your are only inte= rested in using the one looper and doing simple layering, and no other acco= mpaniment such as drums machines, or programmed keyboards. =A0Especially if= you want to use interesting live loops along with a live drummer and a ban= d, you really need to have some sort of click or flashing light for everyon= e to follow. =A0I know, you can create a loop and have the band adhere to t= hat loop very closely, but I find that it just doesn't leave you with enoug= h safety and security to do anything interesting. > > (As you know Luis) I'm currently fighting with a pair of EDPs and an MPC = 1000, trying to get them all to stick to the clock from the MPC. =A0They dr= ift and my performance sounds drunk at best, and a train wreck at the worst= . =A0I also have an AdreanaLinn (the A2, not the newer A3). =A0I find the 2= measure drum loops to stay in sync quite well. =A0It even stays in line wh= en switching presets by sending it Program changes throughout a sequence. = =A0Even if that program change is sent in a strange place within the 2 meas= ures. =A0Unfortunately I don't really like the guitar modeling sounds very = much, and the input of the unit clips and distorts pretty easly. I like the= interesting electro-clash industrial electronic sounding drum sounds. =A0I= love the synced effects, why more units haven't employ this feature is bey= ond me. =A0One thing to take note of with the AdreanaLinn is that if you ar= e playing guitar through it and send program changed to it to change to a d= ifferent preset or drumbeat, you will hear it drop out or click. > > John M. > > > On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> Im interested in the LP2s midi capabilities,i think thats what would >> also make it a seller and beat the upcoming new stomp loopers >> competition,none of them seem to be midi. >> if i may suggest some essential midi functions which are also in the EDP >> >> Start/stop >> MuteReAlign - =A0Immediately Mute and restart the loop at next Global >> MIDI StartPoint >> QuantMIDIStartSong - Wait to next Local Loop StartPoint and then send >> a StartSong >> MuteQuantMIDIStartSong - =A0Immediately Mute, then wait to next >> StartPoint and send StartSong >> Retrigger >> >> if it did this the LP2 combined with the Adrenalinn would b the bomb! >> Luis >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM, andy butler wr= ote: >>> >>> >>> Matt Davignon wrote: >>>> >>>> The effects look like looping-related commands. >>> >>>> I don't know what the "retrigger" or "replace" ones do. It looks like >>>> you can assign the above effects to 2 footswitches. >>>> >>> >>> >>> I've discussed those briefly with Rick, and plus a bit of speculation. >>> >>> Replace 1/x is a direct emulation of a certain specific edp behaviour, >>> (also present on LP1). >>> It replaces a single quantised chunk of the loop with input audio. >>> In EDPish it's a "Shortpress of Quantised 8th Replace". >>> >>> I'm quite excited by that, while that effect has been around since >>> 2003 it's was always somewhat hidden away in the more expensive product= s. >>> If it catches on it could open up a lot of interest in the whole >>> "looper as instrument" idea. >>> >>> I guess the vanilla Replace would be unquantised momentary >>> (replace for as long as button is held) >>> In that case, it's possible that quantised replaces will also >>> cut out larger chunks if held for longer (but >>> Retrigger is more or less what's offered by the DL4 >>> Retrigger Once. Play the loop once from beginning then stop. >>> Continue. Retrigger Continuous. Retrigger loop from beginning and keep >>> going. >>> Retrigger Random. Jump to a random point in the loop. >>> The Random Retrigger is intended to be used rhythmically, >>> I guess the loop would be filled with a variety of >>> sounds (with slow attacks) so that rapid operation of the randtrig >>> produced a well defined beat. >>> Again, that's a very "looper as instrument" type feature. >>> >>> >>> I don't think it's been pointed out yet that the LP2 >>> has a Mix control (back panel) which, unusually for a small looper, mak= es it >>> suitable for use on an Aux send. >>> >>> andy butler >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 23:42:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13B02183459; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=6GhBMzUt0v8+ zYjSHtq9NzQeZOA=; b=q5LZ0yFwCHbbzqT4WVecMCxDa7DgmhH0iaeTgZhUtfiI RXzp6K5m+vd6aaUMCuoVIZsjkkP1af8/hXvqg+Ol8ul8s7bfp72FxUQ+k1HTaECQ gYyjfJ9fe3/pwnAQdxFPzfqFTjFyOEkCtf39PYjEknXtMh2zrbPUgfnyvGILT4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=message-id:date :from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sasl; b=ZkOf7i Uq28XYUvT7/aiEpHxnF5TO7Zn2yuGv2Z4Ao/IgUahOEh/PFDuWeMYiv9KSq10kB0 B3ajo1WiEybsW3adDgSwFS174lraGM2ZgXWfLWtEJ8e/F53pXsfo+Gr0IqqWZ4u7 D2vze7e6CiuBcIvRN1ruuosVgpNKkyxkjRQeY= Message-ID: <4D362568.1050206@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:42:32 -0600 From: "jimp@pobox.com" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mothership of MIDI controllers? References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> In-Reply-To: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: A0199086-235C-11E0-B669-D3BDF791CF9A-07196044!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Resent-Message-ID: <3t-7HC.A.M_.sViNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:42:36 +0000 (UTC) want! i've been meaning to build almost exactly this for about 10 years. ah time flies... On 1/18/2011 5:07 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > Maybe? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXe4IByTvU > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 23:44:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2787D183454; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3F805944-4892-41AA-8386-3718AA7224ED@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: LP2 at namm Thread-Index: Acu3aa600a5DvloSTd6O3Ud4he//EA== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:44:27 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2011 23:44:45.0334 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF754B60:01CBB769] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:44:46 +0000 (UTC) I looked hard at the vox, cool but no midi, so stupid, imho=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Louie Angulo wrot= e: > oh yes i know thats a great one and i owned it for a while, but im > minimizing now to a pedalboard since im doing pub gigs where space is > critical as well as setup time,so i still have hopes for a stomp with > simple midi capabilities. > i had high hopes for the eventide time factor,it has 12 sec looper and > is midi and though it send a start and stop comand to my adrenalinn > the loop will not stay in sync with it.Most stomp midi devices dont > put any effort on syncing the looper,but only the delays.it would have > been cool because you can pitch shift the loop and you can degrate it > so it sounds lo-fi.plus its small size is perfect for a pedalboard. > damn they almost did it! > Luis >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Andy Owens wrote= : >> Luis, >> One word for you: >> LP1 >> I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here regarding a= >> hardware looper that the LP1 doesnt address, plus eight independant loops= . >> Andy Owens >> 1-800-AndyOwens >> Sent from my iPhone >> So the typing might not be my best! >>=20 >> On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:56 PM, "Louie Angulo" = >> wrote: >>=20 >> that defeats the purpose bro,i got 2 EDPs as well and they do rock my >> boat, but i want stomps and no more racks! >> so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on the >> market it would be sad if it didnt,perhaps there are folks out there >> that dont want to use all the glitchy stuff. >> C mon give us those 2 at least Bob! >> cheers >> Luis >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>>=20 >>> And, if that doesn't float your boat, I've got 2 EDPs with very few mil= es >>> on them for sale right now. >>> You can have all the features you desire. >>>=20 >>> rick walker >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 18 23:45:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6343818345B; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: LP2 at namm Thread-Index: Acu3acqUHr+aMtLHTr6HsMvYjApUFQ== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:45:11 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2011 23:45:31.0241 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAD22590:01CBB769] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Haha Luis, you will get hooked on ipad, thats minimilizing there.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Louie Angulo wrot= e: > oh yes i know thats a great one and i owned it for a while, but im > minimizing now to a pedalboard since im doing pub gigs where space is > critical as well as setup time,so i still have hopes for a stomp with > simple midi capabilities. > i had high hopes for the eventide time factor,it has 12 sec looper and > is midi and though it send a start and stop comand to my adrenalinn > the loop will not stay in sync with it.Most stomp midi devices dont > put any effort on syncing the looper,but only the delays.it would have > been cool because you can pitch shift the loop and you can degrate it > so it sounds lo-fi.plus its small size is perfect for a pedalboard. > damn they almost did it! > Luis >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Andy Owens wrote= : >> Luis, >> One word for you: >> LP1 >> I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here regarding a= >> hardware looper that the LP1 doesnt address, plus eight independant loops= . >> Andy Owens >> 1-800-AndyOwens >> Sent from my iPhone >> So the typing might not be my best! >>=20 >> On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:56 PM, "Louie Angulo" = >> wrote: >>=20 >> that defeats the purpose bro,i got 2 EDPs as well and they do rock my >> boat, but i want stomps and no more racks! >> so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on the >> market it would be sad if it didnt,perhaps there are folks out there >> that dont want to use all the glitchy stuff. >> C mon give us those 2 at least Bob! >> cheers >> Luis >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>>=20 >>> And, if that doesn't float your boat, I've got 2 EDPs with very few mil= es >>> on them for sale right now. >>> You can have all the features you desire. >>>=20 >>> rick walker >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 00:08:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3978183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: LP2 at namm From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:08:47 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:08:52 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here = regarding a hardware looper that the LP1 doesnt address, plus eight = independant loops.=20 Well. there's not requiring a rack... Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 00:36:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1470C183461; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:36:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 617379.38634.bm@omp1013.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1295397363; bh=9HH8cqFPrX4w85zMD8G/N95X45MiyRV/vGPUbf78uW0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q/3fJIJNpGdNxrP+EaJoYAfLcGMalWNQWa3QmZGRSmawAxt237uLmbnqXxWZEs/0FUbLzJvgl8hLSw7iDR+CW5wtluio3SQFzsByg4jMVvqFJtKm5i8ikDbmzenCQnHfdamz0IFpGK/2SDsgnLKiVkzfQiesvdruEFDhGclzepk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jkjnis4i949wsabobRiSObQFKjOHtkF17vK8NyFiJd0y4n5t/rY1WbJOUBbIMwaY36SrFYCZPucQBdRqNdv921xW/YnCA5CsU1ODjIYPkAeV8Ma3ERnrUfaCZ2FHJwQC203gmWWvgASNZkE9U8iF+84e/R4kwoe1XHLhhmyLSLg=; Message-ID: <415962.32553.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1oddZWYVM1nuZletggH2DYH12hpJMePUYwzfr.CCKBsxQlP F8V5aUn4lkdesj2JawRw3s63Ju41j9tHkqT78b13gtEkGIGKvF.FzBzfEVg. YC.ddkLrYEBVyP09SZKtjUSFs01oD66N4WPGhj7r8On74anSpdQvitKTcNg0 7WaF6BwCCRWvqFI0cvPMBH_zMmArJ.jcMg9A2gMVVlECEL1UR_rEfoND6YDK y7hlBqMJrGzqRLVqmZqJXR7KTBonQ7oJeJtFwEDV096IB7BfcwlE- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <4D345243.9010903@tiscali.co.uk> <1F20404A-595D-4C31-AF2F-9C60664D2B28@me.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:36:03 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: LP2 at namm To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1981548023-1295397363=:32553" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:36:05 +0000 (UTC) --0-1981548023-1295397363=:32553 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Louie can you please post a recorded example of your mangled drums? Maybe this is what I am looking for....if you change settings on the drums while they are playing is there a noticable click as you mentioned previously? Thanks, Eric ________________________________ From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, January 18, 2011 6:25:24 PM Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Hey John, well i dont really use its amp simulations and FXs for guitar anymore,although they are awesome,i find that the adrenalinn sucks up too much tone unfortunately. But i use them for the drums!! try those filers and amp simlutations plus the distortions on them and it turns the drums into a whole new instument, try it out! thats why im so insistent on finding a stomp midi looper that will slave a drum machine like this,very fun and it can spice up your performance! Luis --0-1981548023-1295397363=:32553 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Louie can you please post a recorded example of your mangled drums? Maybe this is what I am looking for....if you change settings on the drums while they are playing is there a noticable click as you mentioned previously?

Thanks,
Eric

From: Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, January 18, 2011 6:25:24 PM
Subject: Re: LP2 at namm

Hey John,
well i dont really use its amp simulations and FXs for guitar
anymore,although they are awesome,i find that the adrenalinn sucks up
too much tone unfortunately.
But i use them for the drums!! try those filers and amp simlutations
plus the distortions on them and it turns the drums into
a whole new instument, try it out!
thats why im so insistent on finding a stomp midi looper that will
slave a drum machine like this,very fun and it can spice up your
performance!
Luis




--0-1981548023-1295397363=:32553-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 02:16:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95B23183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> Message-ID: <396FCB75-4F93-4B3F-8F5A-551C42B3B9CA@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: LP2 at namm Thread-Index: Acu3fu31NQuUjrSMRtWuifmtOLJq5w== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:16:32 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 02:16:50.0310 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE5E2260:01CBB77E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Ok you got me there!! Velcro to the floor??? Actually I got to demo the vox and got some pics, it is actually pretty dang= cool. I gotta slow down a minute and right that out, sorry.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >=20 >> I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here regarding a= hardware looper that the LP1 doesnt address, plus eight independant loops.=20= >=20 > Well. there's not requiring a rack... >=20 > Mark >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 02:36:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 773A7183451; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Vox review References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> Message-ID: <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Vox review Thread-Index: Acu3gaHorYwQOBUURP2yllJw5Jqu7A== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:35:20 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 02:36:11.0006 (UTC) FILETIME=[A23249E0:01CBB781] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Over at www.andyowens.com on the blog.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >=20 >> I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here regarding a= hardware looper that the LP1 doesnt address, plus eight independant loops.=20= >=20 > Well. there's not requiring a rack... >=20 > Mark >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 02:37:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B763183453; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-8--730133692"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <02314014-0D72-4075-ADF0-5E505C98A2E6@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: LP2 at namm Thread-Index: Acu3gdlD6VEM1CiGS/SaBr28j6IIHg== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:37:25 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 02:37:43.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[D966FAA0:01CBB781] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:37:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--730133692 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Man you might like the vox, standalone guitar pedal with a two channel loope= r.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:56 PM, "Louie Angulo" wr= ote: > that defeats the purpose bro,i got 2 EDPs as well and they do rock my > boat, but i want stomps and no more racks! > so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on the > market it would be sad if it didnt,perhaps there are folks out there > that dont want to use all the glitchy stuff. > C mon give us those 2 at least Bob! > cheers > Luis >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > > And, if that doesn't float your boat, I've got 2 EDPs with very few mil= es > > on them for sale right now. > > You can have all the features you desire. > > > > rick walker > > > > >=20 --Apple-Mail-8--730133692 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Man you might like the vox, standalone guitar pedal with a two channel looper. 

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:56 PM, "Louie Angulo" <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:

that defeats the purpose bro,i got 2 EDPs as well and they do rock my
boat, but i want stomps and no more racks!
so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on the
market it would be sad if it didnt,perhaps there are folks out there
that dont want to use all the glitchy stuff.
C mon give us those 2 at least Bob!
cheers
Luis





>
> And, if that doesn't float your boat,  I've got 2 EDPs with very few miles
> on them for sale right now.
> You can have all the features you desire.
>
> rick walker
>
>

--Apple-Mail-8--730133692-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 02:45:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEAD418345B; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--729652853 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <02314014-0D72-4075-ADF0-5E505C98A2E6@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:45:26 -0800 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <02314014-0D72-4075-ADF0-5E505C98A2E6@1800dialword.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:45:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--729652853 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am intrigued by that one!=20 On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Man you might like the vox, standalone guitar pedal with a two channel = looper.=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --Apple-Mail-4--729652853 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Man you might = like the vox, standalone guitar pedal with a two channel = looper. 

david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth = and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA = 94610-2730




= --Apple-Mail-4--729652853-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 02:49:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7902C183452; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5d29bf34-67ec-471d-a255-1e19ea7ffd2b_" X-Originating-IP: [72.161.88.201] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: Vox review Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:49:07 -0600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com>,<675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 02:49:07.0675 (UTC) FILETIME=[712092B0:01CBB783] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:49:09 +0000 (UTC) --_5d29bf34-67ec-471d-a255-1e19ea7ffd2b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for that andy Unfortunate we have to wait until May I think for the release=2C right? And= was there a price mentioned? The Wandering Madman=20 > Subject: Vox review > From: andy@1800dialword.com > Date: Tue=2C 18 Jan 2011 21:35:20 -0500 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Over at www.andyowens.com on the blog.=20 >=20 > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! >=20 >=20 > On Jan 18=2C 2011=2C at 7:08 PM=2C Mark Hamburg wrote: >=20 > > On Jan 18=2C 2011=2C at 2:29 PM=2C Andy Owens wrote: > >=20 > >> I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here regardin= g a hardware looper that the LP1 doesnt address=2C plus eight independant l= oops.=20 > >=20 > > Well. there's not requiring a rack... > >=20 > > Mark > >=20 >=20 = --_5d29bf34-67ec-471d-a255-1e19ea7ffd2b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for that andy

Unfortunate we have to wait until May I think f= or the release=2C right? And was there a price mentioned?



The= Wandering Madman



>=3B Subject: Vox review
>=3B From: andy@1800dialwor= d.com
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 18 Jan 2011 21:35:20 -0500
>=3B To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Over at www.andyowens.c= om on the blog.
>=3B
>=3B Andy Owens
>=3B 1-800-AndyOwens<= br>>=3B Sent from my iPhone
>=3B So the typing might not be my best!=
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B On Jan 18=2C 2011=2C at 7:08 PM=2C Mark Ha= mburg <=3Bmark@grubmah.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B
>=3B >=3B On Ja= n 18=2C 2011=2C at 2:29 PM=2C Andy Owens wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B= >=3B>=3B I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here= regarding a hardware looper that the LP1 doesnt address=2C plus eight inde= pendant loops.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Well. there's not requir= ing a rack...
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Mark
>=3B >=3B
= >=3B
= --_5d29bf34-67ec-471d-a255-1e19ea7ffd2b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 02:54:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43DB1183449; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Vox review Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:54:05 -0800 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Andy. My big question about any stomp box looper is: does it = have an adjustable feedback (decay) control? On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Over at www.andyowens.com on the blog.=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 02:57:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A80D6183454; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D365305.7010705@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:57:09 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Goodin CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: LP2 Video demo with Rick References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050207000005090409040301" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:57:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050207000005090409040301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Jim, I made a mistake in programming before I demonstrated the Q Slice features so it took me a dozen foot presses before I figured out what mistake I'd made (just due to not knowing the unit intimately yet). I'm gonna ask Barry if he'll edit that because it's NOT representative of the time it takes to program the unit in real time. Other than that I feel pretty good about it. yours, Rick On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > excellent demo Rick > > http://www.guitarplayer.com/GearVideo.aspx?bctid=753735222001&bclid=27948268001 > > --------------050207000005090409040301 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Jim,  I made a mistake in programming before I demonstrated
the Q Slice features so it took me a dozen foot presses before I figured out
what mistake I'd made (just due to not knowing the unit intimately yet).
I'm gonna ask Barry if he'll edit that because it's NOT representative
of the time it takes to program the unit in real time.
Other than that I feel pretty good about it.

yours,   Rick




On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:
excellent demo Rick


--------------050207000005090409040301-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 02:59:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 428FE183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP2 Video demo with Rick References: <4D365305.7010705@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-9--728818306"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <4D365305.7010705@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <39EF91CB-AAF8-4508-8976-1F7C35AB91FE@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: LP2 Video demo with Rick Thread-Index: Acu3hOmSzQHCfdXDQ4qwoslhu6Xs3Q== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:59:21 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 02:59:39.0677 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9D46CD0:01CBB784] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:59:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9--728818306 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That vid doesnt play iphone for some reason fyi.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:57 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > Thanks, Jim, I made a mistake in programming before I demonstrated=20 > the Q Slice features so it took me a dozen foot presses before I figured o= ut=20 > what mistake I'd made (just due to not knowing the unit intimately yet). > I'm gonna ask Barry if he'll edit that because it's NOT representative=20 > of the time it takes to program the unit in real time. > Other than that I feel pretty good about it. >=20 > yours, Rick >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: >>=20 >> excellent demo Rick >>=20 >> http://www.guitarplayer.com/GearVideo.aspx?bctid=3D753735222001&bclid=3D2= 7948268001 >=20 --Apple-Mail-9--728818306 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
That vid doesnt play iphone for some reason fyi. 

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:57 PM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

Thanks, Jim,  I made a mistake in programming before I demonstrated
the Q Slice features so it took me a dozen foot presses before I figured out
what mistake I'd made (just due to not knowing the unit intimately yet).
I'm gonna ask Barry if he'll edit that because it's NOT representative
of the time it takes to program the unit in real time.
Other than that I feel pretty good about it.

yours,   Rick




On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:
excellent demo Rick


--Apple-Mail-9--728818306-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 03:04:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BF08183475; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Vox review References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-10--728550490"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0C9C5688-AB8D-47EF-8378-345B7429619F@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Vox review Thread-Index: Acu3hYmhbYR2ejrjQ/maqC8AqBtS+A== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:03:48 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 03:04:08.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[89CDA440:01CBB785] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:04:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10--728550490 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Map is 280 he said, not bad.=20 Dude is that you doing that rain song? Holy frickenberries!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:49 PM, "FRO DIDDLY" wrote: > thanks for that andy >=20 > Unfortunate we have to wait until May I think for the release, right? And w= as there a price mentioned? >=20 >=20 >=20 > The Wandering Madman=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Subject: Vox review > > From: andy@1800dialword.com > > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:35:20 -0500 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > Over at www.andyowens.com on the blog.=20 > >=20 > > Andy Owens > > 1-800-AndyOwens > > Sent from my iPhone > > So the typing might not be my best! > >=20 > >=20 > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > >=20 > > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > > >=20 > > >> I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here regardi= ng a hardware looper that the LP1 doesnt address, plus eight independant loo= ps.=20 > > >=20 > > > Well. there's not requiring a rack... > > >=20 > > > Mark > > >=20 > >=20 --Apple-Mail-10--728550490 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgYmdjb2xvcj0iI0ZGRkZGRiI+PGRpdj5NYXAgaXMgMjgwIGhlIHNhaWQsIG5v dCBiYWQuJm5ic3A7PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5EdWRlIGlzIHRoYXQgeW91IGRv aW5nIHRoYXQgcmFpbiBzb25nPyBIb2x5IGZyaWNrZW5iZXJyaWVzISEhPGJyPjxicj5BbmR5IE93 ZW5zPGRpdj4xLTgwMC1BbmR5T3dlbnM8L2Rpdj48ZGl2PlNlbnQgZnJvbSBteSBpUGhvbmU8ZGl2 PlNvIHRoZSB0eXBpbmcgbWlnaHQgbm90IGJlIG15IGJlc3QhPC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+ PC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+T24gSmFuIDE4LCAyMDExLCBhdCA5OjQ5IFBNLCAiRlJPIERJ RERMWSIgJmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpwYXJpc3BybzAwQGhvdG1haWwuY29tIj5wYXJpc3By bzAwQGhvdG1haWwuY29tPC9hPiZndDsgd3JvdGU6PGJyPjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PjwvZGl2Pjxi bG9ja3F1b3RlIHR5cGU9ImNpdGUiPjxkaXY+DQp0aGFua3MgZm9yIHRoYXQgYW5keTxicj48YnI+ VW5mb3J0dW5hdGUgd2UgaGF2ZSB0byB3YWl0IHVudGlsIE1heSBJIHRoaW5rIGZvciB0aGUgcmVs ZWFzZSwgcmlnaHQ/IEFuZCB3YXMgdGhlcmUgYSBwcmljZSBtZW50aW9uZWQ/PGJyPjxicj48YnI+ DQo8YnI+DQoNCjxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cueW91dHViZS5jb20vVGhlV2FuZGVyaW5nTWFk bWFuIiB0YXJnZXQ9Il9ibGFuayI+VGhlIFdhbmRlcmluZyBNYWRtYW4gPC9hPg0KPGJyPjxicj48 YnI+PGJyPiZndDsgU3ViamVjdDogVm94IHJldmlldzxicj4mZ3Q7IEZyb206IDxhIGhyZWY9Im1h aWx0bzphbmR5QDE4MDBkaWFsd29yZC5jb20iPjxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzphbmR5QDE4MDBkaWFs d29yZC5jb20iPmFuZHlAMTgwMGRpYWx3b3JkLmNvbTwvYT48L2E+PGJyPiZndDsgRGF0ZTogVHVl LCAxOCBKYW4gMjAxMSAyMTozNToyMCAtMDUwMDxicj4mZ3Q7IFRvOiA8YSBocmVmPSJtYWlsdG86 TG9vcGVycy1EZWxpZ2h0QGxvb3BlcnMtZGVsaWdodC5jb20iPjxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpMb29w ZXJzLURlbGlnaHRAbG9vcGVycy1kZWxpZ2h0LmNvbSI+TG9vcGVycy1EZWxpZ2h0QGxvb3BlcnMt ZGVsaWdodC5jb208L2E+PC9hPjxicj4mZ3Q7IDxicj4mZ3Q7IE92ZXIgYXQgPGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0 cDovL3d3dy5hbmR5b3dlbnMuY29tIj53d3cuYW5keW93ZW5zLmNvbTwvYT4gb24gdGhlIGJsb2cu IDxicj4mZ3Q7IDxicj4mZ3Q7IEFuZHkgT3dlbnM8YnI+Jmd0OyAxLTgwMC1BbmR5T3dlbnM8YnI+ Jmd0OyBTZW50IGZyb20gbXkgaVBob25lPGJyPiZndDsgU28gdGhlIHR5cGluZyBtaWdodCBub3Qg YmUgbXkgYmVzdCE8YnI+Jmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyBPbiBKYW4gMTgsIDIwMTEsIGF0 IDc6MDggUE0sIE1hcmsgSGFtYnVyZyAmbHQ7PGEgaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOm1hcmtAZ3J1Ym1haC5j b20iPm1hcmtAZ3J1Ym1haC5jb208L2E+Jmd0OyB3cm90ZTo8YnI+Jmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7 IE9uIEphbiAxOCwgMjAxMSwgYXQgMjoyOSBQTSwgQW5keSBPd2VucyB3cm90ZTo8YnI+Jmd0OyAm Z3Q7IDxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsmZ3Q7IEkgY2FudCB0aGluayBvZiBhIHRoaW5nIHRoYXQgYW55b25l cyB0YWxrZWQgYWJvdXQgbGF0ZWx5IGhlcmUgcmVnYXJkaW5nIGEgaGFyZHdhcmUgbG9vcGVyIHRo YXQgdGhlIExQMSBkb2VzbnQgYWRkcmVzcywgcGx1cyBlaWdodCBpbmRlcGVuZGFudCBsb29wcy4g PGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7IFdlbGwuIHRoZXJlJ3Mgbm90IHJlcXVpcmluZyBh IHJhY2suLi48YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7IDxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsgTWFyazxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsgPGJy PiZndDsgPGJyPiAJCSAJICAgCQkgIA0KPC9kaXY+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvYm9keT48L2h0bWw+ --Apple-Mail-10--728550490-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 03:04:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8E9E18347A; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Vox review References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-11--728512217"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8489310C-BB07-4805-9EF2-4924C3B43DD8@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Vox review Thread-Index: Acu3hZ8yddvROQNEStOoWPzW13hV6Q== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:04:26 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 03:04:44.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F9A1600:01CBB785] Resent-Message-ID: <39RkkD.A.2qG.NTlNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:04:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11--728512217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes and too I could only watch not play.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:49 PM, "FRO DIDDLY" wrote: > thanks for that andy >=20 > Unfortunate we have to wait until May I think for the release, right? And w= as there a price mentioned? >=20 >=20 >=20 > The Wandering Madman=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Subject: Vox review > > From: andy@1800dialword.com > > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:35:20 -0500 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > Over at www.andyowens.com on the blog.=20 > >=20 > > Andy Owens > > 1-800-AndyOwens > > Sent from my iPhone > > So the typing might not be my best! > >=20 > >=20 > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > >=20 > > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > > >=20 > > >> I cant think of a thing that anyones talked about lately here regardi= ng a hardware looper that the LP1 doesnt address, plus eight independant loo= ps.=20 > > >=20 > > > Well. there's not requiring a rack... > > >=20 > > > Mark > > >=20 > >=20 --Apple-Mail-11--728512217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgYmdjb2xvcj0iI0ZGRkZGRiI+PGRpdj5ZZXMgYW5kIHRvbyBJIGNvdWxkIG9u bHkgd2F0Y2ggbm90IHBsYXkuJm5ic3A7PGJyPjxicj5BbmR5IE93ZW5zPGRpdj4xLTgwMC1BbmR5 T3dlbnM8L2Rpdj48ZGl2PlNlbnQgZnJvbSBteSBpUGhvbmU8ZGl2PlNvIHRoZSB0eXBpbmcgbWln aHQgbm90IGJlIG15IGJlc3QhPC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48 YnI+T24gSmFuIDE4LCAyMDExLCBhdCA5OjQ5IFBNLCAiRlJPIERJRERMWSIgJmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9 Im1haWx0bzpwYXJpc3BybzAwQGhvdG1haWwuY29tIj5wYXJpc3BybzAwQGhvdG1haWwuY29tPC9h PiZndDsgd3JvdGU6PGJyPjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PjwvZGl2PjxibG9ja3F1b3RlIHR5cGU9ImNp dGUiPjxkaXY+DQp0aGFua3MgZm9yIHRoYXQgYW5keTxicj48YnI+VW5mb3J0dW5hdGUgd2UgaGF2 ZSB0byB3YWl0IHVudGlsIE1heSBJIHRoaW5rIGZvciB0aGUgcmVsZWFzZSwgcmlnaHQ/IEFuZCB3 YXMgdGhlcmUgYSBwcmljZSBtZW50aW9uZWQ/PGJyPjxicj48YnI+DQo8YnI+DQoNCjxhIGhyZWY9 Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cueW91dHViZS5jb20vVGhlV2FuZGVyaW5nTWFkbWFuIiB0YXJnZXQ9Il9ibGFu ayI+VGhlIFdhbmRlcmluZyBNYWRtYW4gPC9hPg0KPGJyPjxicj48YnI+PGJyPiZndDsgU3ViamVj dDogVm94IHJldmlldzxicj4mZ3Q7IEZyb206IDxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzphbmR5QDE4MDBkaWFs d29yZC5jb20iPjxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzphbmR5QDE4MDBkaWFsd29yZC5jb20iPmFuZHlAMTgw MGRpYWx3b3JkLmNvbTwvYT48L2E+PGJyPiZndDsgRGF0ZTogVHVlLCAxOCBKYW4gMjAxMSAyMToz NToyMCAtMDUwMDxicj4mZ3Q7IFRvOiA8YSBocmVmPSJtYWlsdG86TG9vcGVycy1EZWxpZ2h0QGxv b3BlcnMtZGVsaWdodC5jb20iPjxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpMb29wZXJzLURlbGlnaHRAbG9vcGVy cy1kZWxpZ2h0LmNvbSI+TG9vcGVycy1EZWxpZ2h0QGxvb3BlcnMtZGVsaWdodC5jb208L2E+PC9h Pjxicj4mZ3Q7IDxicj4mZ3Q7IE92ZXIgYXQgPGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbmR5b3dlbnMu Y29tIj53d3cuYW5keW93ZW5zLmNvbTwvYT4gb24gdGhlIGJsb2cuIDxicj4mZ3Q7IDxicj4mZ3Q7 IEFuZHkgT3dlbnM8YnI+Jmd0OyAxLTgwMC1BbmR5T3dlbnM8YnI+Jmd0OyBTZW50IGZyb20gbXkg aVBob25lPGJyPiZndDsgU28gdGhlIHR5cGluZyBtaWdodCBub3QgYmUgbXkgYmVzdCE8YnI+Jmd0 OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyBPbiBKYW4gMTgsIDIwMTEsIGF0IDc6MDggUE0sIE1hcmsgSGFt YnVyZyAmbHQ7PGEgaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOm1hcmtAZ3J1Ym1haC5jb20iPm1hcmtAZ3J1Ym1haC5j b208L2E+Jmd0OyB3cm90ZTo8YnI+Jmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7IE9uIEphbiAxOCwgMjAxMSwg YXQgMjoyOSBQTSwgQW5keSBPd2VucyB3cm90ZTo8YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7IDxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsm Z3Q7IEkgY2FudCB0aGluayBvZiBhIHRoaW5nIHRoYXQgYW55b25lcyB0YWxrZWQgYWJvdXQgbGF0 ZWx5IGhlcmUgcmVnYXJkaW5nIGEgaGFyZHdhcmUgbG9vcGVyIHRoYXQgdGhlIExQMSBkb2VzbnQg YWRkcmVzcywgcGx1cyBlaWdodCBpbmRlcGVuZGFudCBsb29wcy4gPGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyA8YnI+ Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7IFdlbGwuIHRoZXJlJ3Mgbm90IHJlcXVpcmluZyBhIHJhY2suLi48YnI+Jmd0OyAm Z3Q7IDxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsgTWFyazxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsgPGJyPiZndDsgPGJyPiAJCSAJICAg CQkgIA0KPC9kaXY+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvYm9keT48L2h0bWw+ --Apple-Mail-11--728512217-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 03:07:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C1A4183484; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D36555B.40405@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:07:07 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gans CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Vox review References: <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> In-Reply-To: <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:07:13 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans wrote: > Thanks, Andy. My big question about any stomp box looper is: does it have an adjustable feedback (decay) control? > The LP-2 Mini Looper does, controllable with a separate expression pedal that plugs into the back. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 03:26:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49E01183492; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Vox review References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> Message-ID: <8A5C125D-0510-4389-B8BB-CC5777D6126D@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Vox review Thread-Index: Acu3iJi6VQFmZO90S1Sh9m6s55lrpg== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:25:45 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 03:26:02.0193 (UTC) FILETIME=[99153410:01CBB788] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Man I dont remember, wasnt too good a demo environment. Hope so!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:54 PM, David Gans wrote: >=20 >=20 > Thanks, Andy. My big question about any stomp box looper is: does it have= an adjustable feedback (decay) control? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >=20 >> Over at www.andyowens.com on the blog.=20 >=20 > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 03:33:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6379718349A; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Vox review References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> Message-ID: <9AA4160A-316A-41BB-9893-F01B094F9E1B@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Vox review Thread-Index: Acu3iaouEMCn3O5wQb+9MehmPFH4fg== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:33:23 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 03:33:40.0881 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA7B7010:01CBB789] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:33:41 +0000 (UTC) On the vox website looks like not.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:54 PM, David Gans wrote: >=20 >=20 > Thanks, Andy. My big question about any stomp box looper is: does it have= an adjustable feedback (decay) control? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >=20 >> Over at www.andyowens.com on the blog.=20 >=20 > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 03:36:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ECE21834A3; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Vox review References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> Message-ID: <9A2E4620-5C3E-4A45-9B09-B79071C58C95@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Vox review Thread-Index: Acu3igFqg2F6VV0BQ3S+BfJCEKiwXQ== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:35:50 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 03:36:06.0955 (UTC) FILETIME=[018C8FB0:01CBB78A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:36:07 +0000 (UTC) There is x-fade but I'm not exactly sure what that means.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:54 PM, David Gans wrote: >=20 >=20 > Thanks, Andy. My big question about any stomp box looper is: does it have= an adjustable feedback (decay) control? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >=20 >> Over at www.andyowens.com on the blog.=20 >=20 > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 03:44:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E0651834A9; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ba217741-f6ed-40f8-9097-9fc3f1ba5d4c_" X-Originating-IP: [72.161.88.201] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: Vox review Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:44:46 -0600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9A2E4620-5C3E-4A45-9B09-B79071C58C95@1800dialword.com> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com>,<9A2E4620-5C3E-4A45-9B09-B79071C58C95@1800dialword.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 03:44:46.0566 (UTC) FILETIME=[3742E860:01CBB78B] Resent-Message-ID: <6GMZDB.A.m5H.v4lNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:44:47 +0000 (UTC) --_ba217741-f6ed-40f8-9097-9fc3f1ba5d4c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the xfade lets you use the volume pedal to manually fade between loop 1 and= loop 2 The Wandering Madman=20 > Subject: Re: Vox review > From: andy@1800dialword.com > Date: Tue=2C 18 Jan 2011 22:35:50 -0500 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > There is x-fade but I'm not exactly sure what that means.=20 >=20 > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! >=20 >=20 > On Jan 18=2C 2011=2C at 9:54 PM=2C David Gans wrote: >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Thanks=2C Andy. 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= --_ba217741-f6ed-40f8-9097-9fc3f1ba5d4c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 04:50:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E388A183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 04:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m8Ahs5fKAhMjVLondrgqqpeWqQ2I7ZUcWMmuXcNlqa4=; b=kKtceaQPfg4+px9uh28ZFjkTtu1jUZaXWIeDfWCeUa8HxeLL7qiVUfzIJWOpwrjJlY nP0aYfs7kY2c4naSBiWNyJbScqiF4Z56UFussKPp3l7ozqEaxGCHIuLCCS4hFmdFT5hB Z4eV0zTsAnYHxQ91o2dy+9EiBS00JqsmJEMxQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=c6vu8eJp+4OPsS7Admfx9ZGNVu/FjPQ6fXv+Rp29frYNIdJv7v6PBPQiYElineQ6kc 3iIIeT39WdV/btcYFtWXgJzic1ybjLzZrTndEhmLv1PaKonchkrPtiX0p1eGOHAVykTu aIuvaW6NjhSR2dv18gO4RcfPCJ/+7yeCkA79A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 05:50:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 04:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Im basically using the stock guitar presets Per and the CPU is showing about 25 my mac seems all around slower and there is a delay in the signal,is yours config like that as well? i also find it hard to loop like that even using their built in looper what does your CPU percentage shows when you use the pedalboard looper concert preset? On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> is anybody using it live succesfully? > > Yes. I'm doing that. And even though Mainstage blocks the keyboard key > commands of Mobius' I'm staying with that host because it sounds > better and is lighter on the CPU. Of course you have to avoid using > plugins that are extra CPU consuming, that's the trick. And since some > of the Logic plugins are extremely CPU efficient you can reach an > extraordinary low CPU consumption if sticking with those plugins in > your Minstage stetups. Channel EQ and Compressor are the two most used > plugins over here. And limiter (but beware of the Ad-Limiter 'cause > that is a mastering tool that would ruin your live setup if you try > using it). On the master output I use a Multiplressor followed by a > limiter. When Mainstag was released a couple of years ago I copied my > older Bidule setup and have in fact used the same wiring ever since > (although I constantly try alternatives). > >> can the latency be better >> adjusted? > > Certainly! Do not use plugins that add latency and seet the audio > buffer to 128 samples. > >> what buffer sizes are u guys using? > > I use 128. That is on a 2.2 MHz MacBook, the four year old white model > with the cracking up plastic case ;-)) and Santa Rosa chip. It is till > good enough and I have seen the CPU load minimize over these four > years as Apple keep optimizing code between system upgrades and > application upgrades. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 09:03:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCB29183451; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 568034325/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.79/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.79 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvgBAM83Nk1YbRNP/2dsb2JhbAAMlh7ED4wKhVAEjjY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,343,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="568034325" Message-ID: <4D36A8F4.8010000@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:03:48 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mothership of MIDI controllers? References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> In-Reply-To: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:03:43 +0000 (UTC) That's the most impressive *looking* one. I wouldn't risk it though, it takes a lot of effort to make a controller suitable for looping, and unless they set aside time to do specifically that, and to get feedback from loopers their product will only offer frustration. andy butler Jeff Shirkey wrote: > Maybe? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXe4IByTvU > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 09:14:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C6D8183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 568038779/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.79/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.79 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvgBACc6Nk1YbRNP/2dsb2JhbAAMlh7QEoVQBI42 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,343,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="568038779" Message-ID: <4D36AB62.7030603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:14:10 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vox review References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> <8A5C125D-0510-4389-B8BB-CC5777D6126D@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <8A5C125D-0510-4389-B8BB-CC5777D6126D@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:14:04 +0000 (UTC) The Vox unit doesn't seem to have feedback control. It does have a way to resample the loop, and a way to control the volume of the loop...so there's a way to get feedback control..but only when you're multiplying the loop. The big advantage of the LP2 is that it's made for, and by, folks who *actually know about looping*. So, it naturally has the feedback control. andy butler Andy Owens wrote: > Man I dont remember, wasnt too good a demo environment. Hope so!! > On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:54 PM, David Gans wrote: > >> >> Thanks, Andy. My big question about any stomp box looper is: does it have an adjustable feedback (decay) control? >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 10:18:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1698F183454; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:18:29 +0100 From: buzap@gmx.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110119101829.266230@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/ECr4JmOjE+r36vcxB6m+FlbqY+WV1dshZQhj52z 9KrojMymSO0L45yug2FdTlRaDvVYyDuNDdlg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: G9dUGbhHbXB+UsxpyTU2nxsiLyUmZYjQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis I'm using a pretty similar setup like Per. My initial "monster setup" in Mainstage had hiccups. But after thinking through what I _really_ need, things run smooth now. I don't have any delays/latency problems. Concerning your rig: The guitar presets and the new guitar effects are really great. But replacing some of the "virtual guitar pedals" with basic Logic effects significantly improved CPU. Only thing that gets on my nerves is that Mainstage occasionally interrupts live looping with "feedback detected". Other then that - Mainstage + Mobius is really great on a Mac :-) best regards Buzap -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 10:32:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32E30183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GsnlAcxLFaDqUH6S8ou5gGON4JtwTh7DCGo9B6OdWhw=; b=c/eqCwqW8F5lC8KiANgUz7BuLSolGDUN2nAmaRPjWhqIrUrXSXB7WJsH6bFdpr8SCP KDRxsgneub2IXwsPk8/8vEIoyuSpn3hhhQTgJpylLKtPDINTrmpRZLGyugL42gZIpzlc hDNyWOMbR/I4gT1p0Av5jFEu7PM6FgG8CHz98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UFKrpUXckG0540cw12DT38m2bQTTlgAyBVqoub7SMXGhZ5Tgl+C6QGuTPnwkqjzRU/ RjddljgPtC/+hOsOXJ2b91SQ8tQQXLGvafmJbhiLSowV6j4cRfSyP8Y0ApJEbtXXuXQ+ Pd9FkQjrbsPuVCUfYp1GSpb73wMb37GVoQDJg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:32:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:32:03 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Im basically using the stock guitar presets Per and the CPU is showing about 25 > my mac seems all around slower and there is a delay in the signal,is > yours config like that as well? No. It feels as snappy at 90 percent as it does at 25 percent. I don't use any stock guitar presets though. All my channel strips are custom made. > i also find it hard to loop like that even using their built in looper > what does your CPU percentage shows when you use the pedalboard looper > concert preset? I'm afraid I don't know, since it was ages since I tried that preset. But CPU load does not affect audio "feeling slow". If I go up to 100 percent I may have an audio drop-out for a second but except for that audio sounds crystal clear all the way. But Mainstage needs CPU headroom in order to be stable. When I set up my channel strip patches and looper routings I won't use a patch if it goes higher than 60 percent. Some of mine starts at 20 or 30 percent, others at 50. On the global level (i.e. not Patch level) I run Mobius in a four tracks version and route those four Mobius tracks as separate outputs into Mainstage. On two looper tracks I keep an Autofilter going. Then I also keep one Ohmboyz instance on the global level plus a multipressor and limiter on the stereo output. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 13:15:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3E13183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Mothership of MIDI controllers? References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> <4D36A8F4.8010000@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D36A8F4.8010000@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:14:41 -0500 Thread-Topic: Mothership of MIDI controllers? Thread-Index: Acu32t4IfjyLn5aATeqpQfWfM1uAVA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 13:14:57.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[DEA3EE70:01CBB7DA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Yeah I looked at that, long way to go but interesting and people were super n= ice.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:18 AM, andy butler wrote: > That's the most impressive *looking* one. >=20 > I wouldn't risk it though, > it takes a lot of effort to make a controller > suitable for looping, and unless they set > aside time to do specifically that, and to get feedback from loopers their= product > will only offer frustration. >=20 > andy butler >=20 > Jeff Shirkey wrote: >> Maybe? >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyjXe4IByTvU >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 14:21:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E37B3183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ri/AijsWnSl1bGD1T6ok9hKNyZ4mKJgX7aej6hCmHMQ=; b=Z4+94bJe+J+ISry1sj/vQzPgigNgidinAW4g3GjzjuBShB34W6PeiHy3oED0GS5dpW hXbPU8i+bDJ2cXY4VSKEzr16ICd13M/jY3NVoIE1QCbzSog7EQ/HwGB0Ue7VvwbZfudK sE3WFSoouBCJXXn7e3Q1YPww0+f2YfRkj9DaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gRYn/7f26SsfPNZUajfI/Js8pIhzOhSVFmxpW3GYMr4YCHPxa+S+57bViuN3uPbWIx +cE0ovqyOTmH+xCEbn+0zmnq3eg0OZPy2Sy2HG8hNkj83u3RVfeOhpGygMO1RXgcG9LH 3eSx/kUQcXVCSthK37qpiKexGFRqUPcxAiJHg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110119101829.266230@gmx.net> References: <20110119101829.266230@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:21:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:21:08 +0000 (UTC) thanx guys,would yo be so kind as to send a pics of your setups? i think ive seen yours Per but didnt pay attention previously since i was not using mainstge. Ok so think ill start with a blank concert and build up from there see if that improves my CPU too bad,the new guitar stomps and presets are great... On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, wrote: > Hi Luis > > I'm using a pretty similar setup like Per. > My initial "monster setup" in Mainstage had hiccups. But after thinking through what I _really_ need, things run smooth now. I don't have any delays/latency problems. > > Concerning your rig: The guitar presets and the new guitar effects are really great. But replacing some of the "virtual guitar pedals" with basic Logic effects significantly improved CPU. > > Only thing that gets on my nerves is that Mainstage occasionally interrupts live looping with "feedback detected". > > Other then that - Mainstage + Mobius is really great on a Mac :-) > best regards > Buzap > > -- > GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit > gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 14:23:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D6DD18345E; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RVfFEpd9jff7CC/VjVN/pghMK+P2x4EaMPiZT2zBWbA=; b=rEY8EAu93bBOGkoHRzkBjNolz4uR1DaU4d7H+Vx6wLJSnHMIwK1VBdZw5tmVgk+ik/ B9OdPOJG71DhTOKRfwcPF9OI3JlC/kdSD3bOvKrcC+/l95xmDnC47KE6W+Y1jzgfNblG Rk485kdOdEvv2+XhsQxj33SvLeaBS8+6LYfgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LQTJPfzxzQHxFX9hO+AYNmuKXcllsMopO1aV1kjRoqyP35DdM8ZveidUri+fI+zbCa QBGxQcjx0A1ejQliZUbnP9NDsycCK7Nsza3s7sP5Qcngy2acxIproKpl8y5MXxeECMNi H07suabA6GLyimLFvWJjOSd6pq7eTFGo1sZvg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> <4D36A8F4.8010000@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:23:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mothership of MIDI controllers? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:23:19 +0000 (UTC) maybe the first thing would be to tell them to use quiet switches;-) but is nice from them to ask for suggestions before they release it maybe we should get involved. Luis On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Yeah I looked at that, long way to go but interesting and people were super nice. > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:18 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> That's the most impressive *looking* one. >> >> I wouldn't risk it though, >> it takes a lot of effort to make a controller >> suitable for looping, and unless they set >> aside time to do specifically that, and to get feedback from loopers their product >> will only offer frustration. >> >> andy butler >> >> Jeff Shirkey wrote: >>> Maybe? >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXe4IByTvU >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 15:01:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95383183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vMj0uH0t63P56PYAIBQAphvhbtJGaLlvfaG2KGxsclE=; b=bVYAIr05N2ujEs4vcYaCrPlVyISr9Uh/cmF+uZQ1S4vs2b2gKi7Cly884YR1/ttdgw 4atCmRUz8k3d6V70hZBDxmywdVvm2qLKZ/IXA34I0rQLMfPYoF3wQC58Drj2Gwet4rzf O6PtNG3GD1RcQxZRJdI3b0tMwtOpqnh23cjgw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=oViUD4Ud5IYzetAOPR/kN8UfljjjRMilKAUz5yTwhtzdlvDV19uz7wsJIR4fnlsEsk eNvTiNNAjfeG6dfLkgwcMj4X2WSmueIw4qZK6KZUc/WE6YKv9cx/tU0/mcf/w2ogb0Mc D5XFpb6pnbwJMIMR4yb/HLPDrya0oJ3Y5dSZc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> <4D36A8F4.8010000@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:01:29 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mothership of MIDI controllers? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6e81eb4f703049a344a05 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:01:30 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6e81eb4f703049a344a05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 my main concern was with the little LCD screens. i don't think you'd be able to read those very well, especially under bright lights. i think if they had LED's they'd be much better. i also don't like the physical size of it. i think it's way bigger than it needs to be. apart from that, it looks good, with a nice feature set sim On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > maybe the first thing would be to tell them to use quiet switches;-) > but is nice from them to ask for suggestions before they release it > maybe we should get involved. > Luis > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > > Yeah I looked at that, long way to go but interesting and people were > super nice. > > > > Andy Owens > > 1-800-AndyOwens > > Sent from my iPhone > > So the typing might not be my best! > > > > > > On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:18 AM, andy butler wrote: > > > >> That's the most impressive *looking* one. > >> > >> I wouldn't risk it though, > >> it takes a lot of effort to make a controller > >> suitable for looping, and unless they set > >> aside time to do specifically that, and to get feedback from loopers > their product > >> will only offer frustration. > >> > >> andy butler > >> > >> Jeff Shirkey wrote: > >>> Maybe? > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXe4IByTvU > >> > > > > > > --000e0cd6e81eb4f703049a344a05 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable my main concern was with the little LCD screens. i don't think you'= d be able to read those very well, especially under bright lights. i think = if they had LED's they'd be much better. i also don't like the = physical size of it. i think it's way bigger than it needs to be. apart= from that, it looks good, with a nice feature set

sim

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:23 PM, = Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
maybe the first thing would be to tell them to use quiet switches;-)
but is nice from them to ask for suggestions before they release it
maybe we should get involved.
Luis

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
> Yeah I looked at that, long way to go but interesting and people were = super nice.
>
> Andy Owens
> 1-800-AndyOwens
> Sent from my iPhone
> So the typing might not be my best!
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:18 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> That's the most impressive *looking* one.
>>
>> I wouldn't risk it though,
>> it takes a lot of effort to make a controller
>> suitable for looping, and unless they set
>> aside time to do specifically that, and to get feedback from loope= rs their product
>> will only offer frustration.
>>
>> andy butler
>>
>> Jeff Shirkey wrote:
>>> Maybe?
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyjXe4IByTvU
>>
>
>


--000e0cd6e81eb4f703049a344a05-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 15:08:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72A6618345D; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 568216127/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.79/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.79 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhcCAFuNNk1YbRNP/2dsb2JhbAAMliHPJoVQBI42 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,344,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="568216127" Message-ID: <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:08:58 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo wrote: > so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on the > market it would be sad if it didnt, > C mon give us those 2 at least Bob! > cheers > Luis Hi Luis, You'll have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think sending midi start/stop is user configurable on the EDP, with the default setting being to *not* send them. There are certainly times you *don't* want the drum machine to come in as soon as you close the loop, and to stop every time the loop stops. (and I remember a *really* nice example of the drum machine coming in at the end of the piece on your cd). The LP2 is aiming at simplicity of use so I can see that it probably isn't practical to have midi start/stop as a switchable feature. I can't imagine that Bob and Rick wouldn't take your suggestion very seriously, as it could well come under "making an advertised feature work" rather than adding a new feature. all the best andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 15:21:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31E68183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3ZJu7tulhfd0QTcKBqZ4AVkNFSuNdNdrnpAEDLhrvOU=; b=MKRnzXhfgaLupIA5qO0ev9IEku+Nbj9xJ/6d3HjS+rfI9rj5mMaPfVv7jMr7bl1JvI +BbAPyAeVxq+QePB28qII9Tg/lXdx064A0uB+/LC3yfzlEuKRcD+CKbL8rKXIjQh+IfT dwTA9706/AKpsiMb3YKMNoqu4uZUvEJLd4nn4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UI1kJwizwGQDII/X2a0MxRTYGUvptFJrmaS34hLaaGROPgsV0ezV/2PVUf/jMqUxGX CyhlOEGKp5vOkSQCGXuKeadoQ4tjEyZndssVqxCgNthufHdc3Bmi3Izrc1w8/8hkytEi b3Y5SjgyXVBNyAQOjIU381GO7cL+mHUXKo3go= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:21:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi bro Luis! :) I think Mainstage is OK regarding CPU usage compared to other hosts. But like Per said, you have to watch the plugins you are using, some can be very CPU hungry, for examples the Logic plugin "Space Designer" which is a convolution reverb. Regarding latency, for me 128 and even 256 is OK, I'm used to a slight delay when looping acoustic instruments like piano or guitar. Btw: I'm no longer using Mainstage with Mobius, both are not running stable on my Macbook. I have been using from Jan 2009 till Feb 2010 but I have noticed serious memory leakes, random CPU spikes and audio drop outs causing 100% silcence while performing live...not funny. The memory leak was probably caused by Mobius. Upgrading to the latest versions of Mainstage and Mobius, OSX 10.6 and Motu firewire drivers did not solve the issue. I do know that the CPU spikes issue is a known issue in Logic 9, this info can be found on multiple internet forums. It's a pity because the Mainstage plugins and instruments are really good. Anyway, I recently switched to Ableton Live with multiple instances of Augustus Loop as my live setup and, as an alternative, I have created a similar setup in Bidule . Live has been very stable so far, it has very good built in plugins and the integration with midi controllers is really good. What I also like are the automation options in Live as an alternative for scripting. I have to dig into this but my idea is to investigate if you can create clips which function as scripts like in Mobius, either triggered by playing these clips or trigger them by midi. Don't know if the last is possible though. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 16:02:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA930183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBB7F2.37B7FB69" Subject: RE: Mothership of MIDI controllers? Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:02:05 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFF0@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Mothership of MIDI controllers? Thread-Index: Acu36cNgXnTVQFUASEuyvdpKI931HQABegxw References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com><4D36A8F4.8010000@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 16:02:38.0340 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B4B8440:01CBB7F2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:02:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB7F2.37B7FB69 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They had it up on a table the whole time, so it was kinda hard to tell how they would look from above, but depending on the way they program the LCD, you might could make the notation bigger, all you need is kind of a guide, not a paragraph. But from looking at it, this old fart could read them pretty well. But, that is a lot of frigging buttons!!!!! =20 =20 =20 From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:01 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mothership of MIDI controllers? =20 my main concern was with the little LCD screens. i don't think you'd be able to read those very well, especially under bright lights. i think if they had LED's they'd be much better. i also don't like the physical size of it. i think it's way bigger than it needs to be. apart from that, it looks good, with a nice feature set sim On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: maybe the first thing would be to tell them to use quiet switches;-) but is nice from them to ask for suggestions before they release it maybe we should get involved. Luis On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Yeah I looked at that, long way to go but interesting and people were super nice. > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:18 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> That's the most impressive *looking* one. >> >> I wouldn't risk it though, >> it takes a lot of effort to make a controller >> suitable for looping, and unless they set >> aside time to do specifically that, and to get feedback from loopers their product >> will only offer frustration. >> >> andy butler >> >> Jeff Shirkey wrote: >>> Maybe? >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyjXe4IByTvU >> > > =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB7F2.37B7FB69 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

They had it up on a table the whole time, so it was kinda hard to = tell how they would look from above, but depending on the way they = program the LCD, you might could make the notation bigger, all you need = is kind of a guide, not a paragraph. But from looking at it, this old = fart could read them pretty well. But, that is a lot of frigging = buttons!!!!!

 

 

 

From:= = Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]
Sent: = Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:01 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Mothership of = MIDI controllers?

 

my main concern was with the little LCD = screens. i don't think you'd be able to read those very well, especially = under bright lights. i think if they had LED's they'd be much better. i = also don't like the physical size of it. i think it's way bigger than it = needs to be. apart from that, it looks good, with a nice feature = set

sim

On Wed, Jan 19, = 2011 at 2:23 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:

maybe the first thing = would be to tell them to use quiet switches;-)
but is nice from them = to ask for suggestions before they release it
maybe we should get = involved.
Luis


On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Andy = Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> = wrote:
> Yeah I looked at that, long way to go but interesting and = people were super nice.
>
> Andy Owens
> = 1-800-AndyOwens
> Sent from my iPhone
> So the typing might = not be my best!
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:18 AM, = andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> = wrote:
>
>> That's the most impressive *looking* = one.
>>
>> I wouldn't risk it though,
>> it = takes a lot of effort to make a controller
>> suitable for = looping, and unless they set
>> aside time to do specifically = that, and to get feedback from loopers their product
>> will = only offer frustration.
>>
>> andy = butler
>>
>> Jeff Shirkey wrote:
>>> = Maybe?
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyjXe4IByTvU
>= ;>
>
>

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB7F2.37B7FB69-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 16:06:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEDD118345A; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6oNI1eEYFqpldZzcE40yaWGszgMJeh+Dn8ac1pUSOrw=; b=xyBCxLrrZ4qoYidzTsUlEUUqF+EEOkigtZV3xVv793Q3JNDrjnj2Ij5uHeE1ZEQs9i 5ve8kfU2wMvHCHQJvw0ZKaSZI1mZ6c5hEBAdUnNhP1Ua0o44/6xlDm5SymPUCbfBiagd 6GDRKIhqjH7lJ3OiB8llMD5KfDK63EHT0NIic= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hv1gmDXDOdK5ByQQ5JrNajOZ843OsWRk6PEzOHrrnuQ5X59ioZKuJf97Xc37DinKBF +Uvlgi5wiiVdiStWC8MuPFs+7zLRfbqfBrIe6wpn1MVDJxrasrX62jbhHJci7TYfIOcr PbnX+jixDuNYTVEyjLAIeUJPqt7/PsbiAnQVs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:06:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Hoe gaat het met jou broer! thats what i thought,i will not even get into it if its CPU hungry and not stable,ive been really happy using mobius stand alone and x ternal fx because its really stable that way,but id love to integrate software guitar FX and perhaps a groove box to sync to the loops and control everything with a midi pedal seems that Ableton would be the answer,dont know how stable it runs with mobius i dont know augustus loop though how does it compare to mobius? does anybody have recomendations on a cool groovebox plugin to integrate to a host that has automatic variations with perhaps lo-fi trip hop samples? Luis On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Hi bro Luis! :) > I think Mainstage is OK regarding CPU usage compared to other hosts. > But like Per said, you have to watch the plugins you are using, some > can be very CPU hungry, for examples the Logic plugin "Space Designer" > which is a convolution reverb. Regarding latency, for me 128 and even > 256 is OK, I'm used to a slight delay when looping acoustic > instruments like piano or guitar. > > Btw: I'm no longer using Mainstage with Mobius, both are not running > stable on my Macbook. I have been using from Jan 2009 till Feb 2010 > but I have noticed serious memory leakes, random CPU spikes and audio > drop outs causing 100% silcence while performing live...not funny. The > memory leak was probably caused by Mobius. Upgrading to the latest > versions of Mainstage and Mobius, OSX 10.6 and Motu firewire drivers > did not solve the issue. I do know that the CPU spikes issue is a > known issue in Logic 9, this info can be found on multiple internet > forums. It's a pity because the Mainstage plugins and instruments are > really good. > > Anyway, I recently switched to Ableton Live with multiple instances of > Augustus Loop as my live setup and, as an alternative, I have created > a similar setup in Bidule . Live has been very stable so far, it has > very good built in plugins and the integration with midi controllers > is really good. What I also like are the automation options in Live as > an alternative for scripting. I have to dig into this but my idea is > to investigate if you can create clips which function as scripts like > in Mobius, either triggered by playing these clips or trigger them by > midi. Don't know if the last is possible though. > -- > > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 16:08:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42026183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:08:30 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFFC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop Thread-Index: Acu36sqA17tNCyK9SGadzhqaL4n4DgABXSpg References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 16:08:42.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[24A2DC20:01CBB7F3] Resent-Message-ID: <42pVnD.A.rLE.MywNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Not pushing for it, but I have to agree with Louie that the ability on the lp1 to start the drumb machine with a command also starting record, and to stop the drumb machine with a record stop command is so, so nice. But from playing with it in person, I could see that it would take a bit of workaround, but maybe not, I would sure trade one of those effects to be able to toggle on that when I recorded a loop, it sent midi start and then midi stop by the just normal rec play buttons..........that wouldn't be that big a deal programming wise I would think. Andy the O one=20 -----Original Message----- From: andy butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk]=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:09 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop Louie Angulo wrote: > so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on the > market it would be sad if it didnt, > C mon give us those 2 at least Bob! > cheers > Luis Hi Luis, You'll have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think sending midi start/stop is user configurable on the EDP, with the default setting being to *not* send them. There are certainly times you *don't* want the drum machine to come in as soon as you close the loop, and to stop every time the loop stops. (and I remember a *really* nice example of the drum machine coming in at the end of the piece on your cd). The LP2 is aiming at simplicity of use so I can see that it probably isn't practical to have midi start/stop=20 as a switchable feature. I can't imagine that Bob and Rick wouldn't take your suggestion very seriously, as it could well come under "making an advertised feature work" rather than adding a new feature. all the best andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 16:16:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D95318345F; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3013 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:16:45 UTC Message-ID: <00d201cbb7ed$43747970$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <698502906.4767163.1295287802975.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: test Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:26:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110119-0, 19/01/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <2rhLVD.A.7fE.t5wNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Sorry about this, but me postings to the list have been going missing for the last couple of months, so I have just unsubscribed (did that all by mysef - ain't I clever?) and rejoined, I hope this one gets through okay. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 16:25:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89D6118345A; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0E9leyUFnvajrxrSYThkc7dEiGhsadwkfrcSVEjtCPY=; b=wLxy7FszDH/O6LWmqle1TMUEkmgfpndZhbEaUaISB0D3+mMeUgbRJp/cqRKWhqZ+Zn HSVgczbvGdOw41HfPRK9nL1r74FhcGNzwa+PiONVa23EtddiEY5AtZgrYx2uVOSSCJpc DVzNiGf0+Xiny9mlR1E9cxMLJEoOedtld+tH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=etuDKodjMmb7LpPcOjoDFGKms8SJmhFPqPi84hi9WSwFbE/W+f3mLWraFu31hq1USl tyxbgH+py5BJQnemzIClcNouqV39icsyN313+EouX//9h74stX/3kGilEm0KZaGFpSQF bJRCEbsV4goQoBGemiwr+SOQqCXTXt4LlDgYw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:25:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:25:49 +0000 (UTC) yes i know is perhaps too much to ask,what i was thinking is that the LP2 looper would simply send a start comand to the drum machine when i close the loop and i could just use the mute funciton on the adrenalinn and then just release it when desired,i could then bring it in on the down beat or off ,and with the stop comand perhaps stop the loop with the drum machine all together,then fade in the filter fx of the adrenalinn to the drums that alone would be musical enough for simple song arrangements and keep things fun. Oh well another midi stomp i was dreaming of;-( So what exactly can be done with the midi feature of the LP2 ?The adrenalinn delays sync automatically to its drums so that would be covered. cheers Luis On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:08 PM, andy butler wrote= : > Louie Angulo wrote: > >> so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on the >> market it would be sad if it didnt, >> C mon give us those 2 at least Bob! >> cheers >> Luis > > Hi Luis, > You'll have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think sending > midi start/stop is user configurable on the EDP, > with the default setting being to *not* send them. > > There are certainly times you *don't* want the drum machine to > come in as soon as you close the loop, and to stop every time the loop > stops. > (and I remember a *really* nice example of the drum machine coming > =A0in at the end of the piece on your cd). > > The LP2 is aiming at simplicity of use so I can see > that it probably isn't practical to have midi start/stop as a switchable > feature. > > > I can't imagine that Bob and Rick wouldn't take your suggestion very > seriously, > as it could well come under "making an advertised feature work" > rather than adding a new feature. > > all the best > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 16:26:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C60018345D; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=skcL27RcaY6lIu+oRmh9i6d6hRHtTuiI1FQ5p77Pv9Q=; b=r1U1UrDwMiuP0yqkNzsA/QFZkAUxMnXySjiKp9DUxygo8qopFoy0iVSSqDFm5SQOi/ R0W3oLOB/vgCxzLuXHWMk2UYGdVQL6VYc1rTFMBFSwPTMimqREgAhgyteJNvMFfHe9PC Bwgs+MaU9aFlJZx7Tm49m+UbsVAmzg7SLNe1o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cqD20s+zePztb2//FD1YsKotkrFcQFptvU1PJ8y5T289rMpKBloYCewSOZPFwsfimU pfmG8BTh/rKdAYR3YTJ0I4lMiWVCQQeCQgfmjJceBvp4eoc25m4G06Ag/v9pp0+ncsNl 279uU/qdFCAZHMc4PbEWNP3mog4pOAqTh/Iqs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00d201cbb7ed$43747970$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> References: <698502906.4767163.1295287802975.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <00d201cbb7ed$43747970$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:26:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: test From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8f2eb06a88049a357911 Resent-Message-ID: <0-gHBC.A.C7E.lCxNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:26:13 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8f2eb06a88049a357911 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 10 4, 5x5 good buddy :) j On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Steve Moyes wrote: > Sorry about this, but me postings to the list have been going missing for > the last couple of months, so I have just unsubscribed (did that all by > mysef - ain't I clever?) and rejoined, I hope this one gets through okay. > --90e6ba6e8f2eb06a88049a357911 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 10 4, 5x5 good buddy :)

j

On Wed, = Jan 19, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Sorry about this,= but me postings to the list have been going missing for the last couple of= months, so I have just unsubscribed (did that all by mysef - ain't I c= lever?) and rejoined, I hope this one gets through okay.

--90e6ba6e8f2eb06a88049a357911-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 16:32:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FAFF183454; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dtphAjIMtpR1/ZuUySKv6LE9qlC/zbFCEuLafNx/YPY=; b=BgD/SKycgxCNeF2eSV2RA/73i6U2BhF0y+7W+uUbyTSln3kfA+kA9NHWdagReLkCZV PLFfxxRMipc8dYWExyA8x3407yRvP3dnBEdi26PVoAK3kOlm4CpVTGVAeTBiIAs5RlVn rGLk6lWNIkNNTlROqds0VDCV2LESeBkqvaejw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jpqYprgdvzY6dqiiKc4nqeastsmV31/GZGL6bDM5Zyf6lBpDtKHOmr3rMRJXn+7Iwa j1E1k2TfYHBL9QDqGOMPMYUKTeY0wLhdpowuNccEPlDP7mzVu8Q4teeVHDH7Eq23YxXB tmRAy/EJqGjZAVOctW5NQCskmdd3UDsZbSj+k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:32:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mothership of MIDI controllers? From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305497e38f98d2049a358f70 Resent-Message-ID: <1MO9lC.A.zIF.UIxNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:32:20 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305497e38f98d2049a358f70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Have any of you "I" people seen this? http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/15/starr-labs-airpower-missing-link-adapters-take-midi-into-the-wi/ On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > Maybe? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXe4IByTvU > --20cf305497e38f98d2049a358f70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have any of you "I" people seen this? http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/15/starr-labs-airpower-missing-li= nk-adapters-take-midi-into-the-wi/


On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Sh= irkey <jcshir= ke@frontier.com> wrote:
Maybe?

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyjXe4IByTvU

--20cf305497e38f98d2049a358f70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 16:43:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E15C918345D; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:42:41 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799E01C@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop Thread-Index: Acu39YwGyJCe4gELTFaZTPngjc54MAAAAh5A References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com><4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 16:43:15.0145 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7BE7390:01CBB7F7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Pretty sure the midi on the lp2 is just for sync. That's what the folks = be sayin -----Original Message----- From: Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:26 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop yes i know is perhaps too much to ask,what i was thinking is that the LP2 looper would simply send a start comand to the drum machine when i close the loop and i could just use the mute funciton on the adrenalinn and then just release it when desired,i could then bring it in on the down beat or off ,and with the stop comand perhaps stop the loop with the drum machine all together,then fade in the filter fx of the adrenalinn to the drums that alone would be musical enough for simple song arrangements and keep things fun. Oh well another midi stomp i was dreaming of;-( So what exactly can be done with the midi feature of the LP2 ?The adrenalinn delays sync automatically to its drums so that would be covered. cheers Luis On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:08 PM, andy butler = wrote: > Louie Angulo wrote: > >> so i wont even send start/stop? being the only looper with midi on = the >> market it would be sad if it didnt, >> C mon give us those 2 at least Bob! >> cheers >> Luis > > Hi Luis, > You'll have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think sending > midi start/stop is user configurable on the EDP, > with the default setting being to *not* send them. > > There are certainly times you *don't* want the drum machine to > come in as soon as you close the loop, and to stop every time the loop > stops. > (and I remember a *really* nice example of the drum machine coming > =A0in at the end of the piece on your cd). > > The LP2 is aiming at simplicity of use so I can see > that it probably isn't practical to have midi start/stop as a = switchable > feature. > > > I can't imagine that Bob and Rick wouldn't take your suggestion very > seriously, > as it could well come under "making an advertised feature work" > rather than adding a new feature. > > all the best > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 16:53:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6251D18345E; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBB7F9.47F72A9C" Subject: RE: Mothership of MIDI controllers? Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:52:39 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A5227F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Mothership of MIDI controllers? Thread-Index: Acu39nPWB7H1vegVSeaxS4mwV8GCrgAAKawg References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 16:53:25.0673 (UTC) FILETIME=[63A5A190:01CBB7F9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:53:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB7F9.47F72A9C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They were using this at the panel that Jordan Rudess was on that was about using iwhatevers as musical instruments. The guy from TC was using this, had one plugged into an ipad, one plugged into a rockband midi keyboard ($79 with touch senisitive keys!!) and it worked flawlessly. I am not exactly sure of the hookup there, as I know he was using the TC iwhatever interface too I am sure. =20 Andy not the B =20 From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:32 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mothership of MIDI controllers? =20 Have any of you "I" people seen this? http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/15/starr-labs-airpower-missing-link-adap ters-take-midi-into-the-wi/ On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: Maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyjXe4IByTvU =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB7F9.47F72A9C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

They were using this at the panel that Jordan Rudess was on that was = about using iwhatevers as musical instruments.  The guy from TC was = using this, had one plugged into an ipad, one plugged into a rockband = midi keyboard ($79 with touch senisitive keys!!) and it worked = flawlessly. I am not exactly sure of the hookup there, as I know he was = using the TC iwhatever interface too I am sure.

 

Andy not the B

 

From:= = Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, = January 19, 2011 11:32 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Mothership of = MIDI controllers?

 

Have any of you "I" people seen = this? http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/15/st= arr-labs-airpower-missing-link-adapters-take-midi-into-the-wi/

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:07 = PM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> = wrote:

Maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyjXe4IByTvU

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB7F9.47F72A9C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 17:28:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0278018347A; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QY2OeplYZWzvm2KVnxsJNsqbnvSdAOMD0pJAjGz3wK0=; b=AI2jTWnAgt9QDgjwFiSJVO/q+GXu3gHMUK4lTK/eq1rV2karqXuv1rPhfIkaSzwwqq p0MDI1Jp9Yt+lKFYj3d+wxS7mIfhEr+YsBIrvCK+lajJ+LG35FdFeHbXSOxSCL78PtQ2 bqsIpYum/peiqYaaypakU+086yQnena91+Y1o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qJBhbO08mBs2tCHTFYghHqL0ApOFcMFZcfRJx348PMUTXyEOpJZ0tDJ1MVdv9dQt4V 5wA9EnbNqruADxDNBWwX5bfUz465Ma+hdmq3FLpJ4OgOBWlJYirzEsQzcLl0RV/Y1nTO WWKmpvhfkniYgstrlOroYGo3yUooZzh25hM8c= Message-ID: <4D371F35.2080708@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:28:21 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? References: <20110119101829.266230@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20110119101829.266230@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:28:20 +0000 (UTC) buzap@gmx.net schrieb: > Only thing that gets on my nerves is that Mainstage occasionally interrupts live looping with "feedback detected" Whow, what a clever program, that mainstage! Could someone perhaps do a hi-res screenshot of that message - that sounds like a great idea for an official LD t-shirt. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 18:03:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7757818345E; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r9DCpx0AeRQB5UsRTyWCrnwguNQMiBBq4QV33+c9150=; b=CmvNXHLYdDOmVzsbqBH5KtON/UbXK4OWyU3lYTIkUy7X81d2aOOREx9QKrrPSfhMuM v/42YbK0V82idr/hs2lT9HO90mtmPoQTz7/XUwS4zG6xe0kVbOWyDwEmdTavaI2xRbgj tjaJWteIp8ARfHD6Wy40sl8/xI71llLGPQMhc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Anc64dnpQzZvfzi8bnxufzkxD1MnBfPW7QFtZdxrl9aN48r0dHnKLPHEUmN9ZwBXeu 3U/h7czl2Hoy5UfxWyipVB1mIWqXiqW6ir11V+8uAPkYewx8ZCriCYgoYbr7Nj5lyNHg sY17felNrsMp76qNi/HHxBQeTrxjhrXE4UFL4= Message-ID: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:02:35 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:03:39 +0000 (UTC) via gearjunkies.com: http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/ Another thingie for intuitively mashing up audio input with the electronic dance folks in mind. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 18:15:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BB0418345D; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Vox review Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <4D36AB62.7030603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:15:18 -0800 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> <8A5C125D-0510-4389-B8BB-CC5777D6126D@1800dialword.com> <4D36AB62.7030603@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Where can I see more info on the LP2? On Jan 19, 2011, at 1:14 AM, andy butler wrote: > The Vox unit doesn't seem to have feedback control. > It does have a way to resample the loop, and a way to > control the volume of the loop...so there's a way to get feedback > control..but only when you're multiplying the loop. > > The big advantage of the LP2 is that it's made for, and by, > folks who *actually know about looping*. > So, it naturally has the feedback control. David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 18:23:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D870D18345E; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9/BARmcUfkPoT+5s7EaZqeduNtHGvp3DeCk4x41DK+U=; b=Mt7J+lyfV0wnBBep5Xuc0aYEpynRZ0DhoPB+isRC1JYa5WhaHPZlYe1aWUXM5rTIgu AkppL82wvxu21V15EaG1KKgNU8tz0QFAzDGeGPMst8EdwRBxVHE1xYzEs0lOke6rE1vV MAkJzQKcuE/hPDNxBYdnyS7w+4CFQf4RDFiaQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AwUKBHZXi9PWsvEbuybrUosTTpwvB4HCH+u4SXBXNmBCQ/ZK9cjCIQPsHLxtK8SZiR jSwzuEQX1zA3D9kX/shFJv/I7qj0AAk3GDpJ/G8lDuP7yLvulfR2p9mfQss4R+H4h+Ct pnLS9q9s49+fmm8JtE4sNZzwGeBJAWt9S4pZ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> References: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:23:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:23:33 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > via gearjunkies.com: > http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/ > > Another thingie for intuitively mashing up audio input with the electronic > dance folks in mind. Yep, one of the hot products of this NAMM. Wasn't StutterEdit up on this list two days ago? Anyway, I'm very curious about the arpeggio stutter algorithm! I remember reading an interview with BT, must have been at least a decade ago, and already back then he was doing stutter stuff as his "producer trademark". But in the nineties he did it "manually" with ReCycle; slicing up audio files and treating each ultra short slice with different EQ and compression. So if anyone should be the Grand Old Man of Stuttering it has to be BT. ;-)) This is his experience with all that manual ReCycle tweking that finally has been put together in a real-time solution that works on streaming audio! How awesome! As soon as I get enough free time at hand I will download the 10 days demo to check it out. Could be fun to slap this plugin on a looper output channel. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 18:31:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B988318345F; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=TgK7fDf7emaKTRvQySnCABYe6wp7SLN261qhsJTAQF8=; b=TpXZ7b37HBeS+nbRPcRfZ0rGUINhegU9OPS6RDQVXVsjjDhiLC30dJ8aMJXKhOx32x vXFiE8E3L9xqntEa8kWhNd0dJnMDwV/HWhYg9avqMRkU6fxn2iNqhGz0QO1Mmg1dW9Sj lDeZ1qtpY2G+KM5/3X1lU96pI7NGzgzPFRm0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=mBF5qNcqmETwuukudQoW6b8dEYC/3fbNu56bxC+/qIw5tV5fe3MBOnuw6Ojk8Djgb/ hleSx4YQ6NxiNFidiYYATY8EuPWDKg98f66T/PlS7O6TiXvMKL+nxIlxsuMg+/sx9leW sgUjZnnqEAuBWKk4dj2miiZXPXcNMB8bJx5FE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:30:42 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JaegPL0GImyIQmn_vsaE2e5D9aw Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ab3b295f27049a373820 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:31:04 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ab3b295f27049a373820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > slap this > plugin on a looper output channel. > Already done...! This is my kinda toy...! -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054ab3b295f27049a373820 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
slap this
plugin on a looper output channel.


Already = done...! This is my kinda toy...!


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--20cf3054ab3b295f27049a373820-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 18:52:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E420183461; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBB809.F1A98A57" Subject: Wireless Midi Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:51:55 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A522ED@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A5227F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Wireless Midi Thread-Index: Acu39nPWB7H1vegVSeaxS4mwV8GCrgAAKawgAAQYPaA= References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A5227F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 18:52:02.0195 (UTC) FILETIME=[F56CB630:01CBB809] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:52:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB809.F1A98A57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some of the cool things whey talked about with the wireless midi was that a soundman could go right to the artists spot on the stage and adjust the levels of that monitor mix, or walk about the venue and adjust levels, pretty cool thought, pretty cool new world we are in dudes and dudettes!! =20 Andy of the O ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB809.F1A98A57 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Some of the cool things whey talked about with the wireless midi was = that a soundman could go right to the artists spot on the stage and = adjust the levels of that monitor mix, or walk about the venue and = adjust levels, pretty cool thought, pretty cool new world we are in = dudes and dudettes!!

 

Andy of the O

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBB809.F1A98A57-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 19:10:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4D6718345D; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A522ED@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14--670532481 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Wireless Midi Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:10:47 -0800 References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A5227F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A522ED@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:10:49 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-14--670532481 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit when I played at CES a couple weeks ago the soundman had an instance of his "mixer" on a laptop. so he could move freely around the space while tweeting the levels and eq. it was so much easier! don't know what the software was though. On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Some of the cool things whey talked about with the wireless midi was > that a soundman could go right to the artists spot on the stage and > adjust the levels of that monitor mix, or walk about the venue and > adjust levels, pretty cool thought, pretty cool new world we are in > dudes and dudettes!! > > Andy of the O --Apple-Mail-14--670532481 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable when I played at CES a couple = weeks ago the soundman had an instance of his "mixer" on a laptop. =  so he could move freely around the space while tweeting the levels = and eq. it was so much easier! don't know what the software was = though.

On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Andy Owens = wrote:

Some = of the cool things whey talked about with the wireless midi was that a = soundman could go right to the artists spot on the stage and adjust the = levels of that monitor mix, or walk about the venue and adjust levels, = pretty cool thought, pretty cool new world we are in dudes and = dudettes!!
Andy = of the = O

<= /body>= --Apple-Mail-14--670532481-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 19:13:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7D9D183460; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15--670356078 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Wireless Midi Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:13:43 -0800 References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A5227F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A522ED@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <89m9ID.A.QxC.pfzNNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:13:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-15--670356078 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit amazing...autocorrect turned my spelling mistake "tweeking" into "tweeting". i meant tweaking! tweeting the levels would be another thing entirely. On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > when I played at CES a couple weeks ago the soundman had an instance > of his "mixer" on a laptop. so he could move freely around the > space while tweeting the levels and eq. it was so much easier! don't > know what the software was though. > > On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > >> Some of the cool things whey talked about with the wireless midi >> was that a soundman could go right to the artists spot on the stage >> and adjust the levels of that monitor mix, or walk about the venue >> and adjust levels, pretty cool thought, pretty cool new world we >> are in dudes and dudettes!! >> >> Andy of the O > --Apple-Mail-15--670356078 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable amazing...autocorrect turned my = spelling mistake "tweeking" into "tweeting". i meant tweaking! tweeting = the levels would be another thing entirely.

On Jan 19, = 2011, at 11:10 AM, Zoe Keating wrote:

when I played at CES a couple = weeks ago the soundman had an instance of his "mixer" on a laptop. =  so he could move freely around the space while tweeting the levels = and eq. it was so much easier! don't know what the software was = though.

On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Andy Owens = wrote:

Some = of the cool things whey talked about with the wireless midi was that a = soundman could go right to the artists spot on the stage and adjust the = levels of that monitor mix, or walk about the venue and adjust levels, = pretty cool thought, pretty cool new world we are in dudes and = dudettes!!
Andy = of the = O

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= --Apple-Mail-15--670356078-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 19:24:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06BA218345F; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> Subject: RE: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:24:34 +0100 Message-ID: <06AF65C8053942CA87C9774DCD0195DB@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acu4DR9oVPtpQ9fDSWec465XePAfhAAAVGAw In-Reply-To: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:24:38 +0000 (UTC) "staggering stutters that will leave your listeners screaming for more" :) :) -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 19:58:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41C7018345F; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yJUlXVO04E43jisDZmtGZR7ua51Kb+m+pGrurKlhRTE=; b=BRQKkISYo8w4pQRRwECDvbULkaqy/N3ZHM7J5xHrvHFf4sMjGN8wtZ4dz5Pg6OX2ga 5+S7m6dl70wX1rAAdBS/xCHTgbHvq6o2jRYrslRuN6C/pdxYrL8F8RYhFH+fhm7UBa4Y tksepf8DcbO/+kqk6Y/r/mfB+9OUzJ+mDP+Bk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TcQ+Rn183MYi6cXqz9eXSg09FKqZYPawbFemZ1yhH5e2tsgOVviIqFIMWUDvER4nMC XW4tNYCXJ7E6T8zVaSmQEetb868R6d29Ida1RgggRskYRAAG4F/MA9V0ry/7jTU4uAkf QPtsVSxsKszu027Ib+opQEIWflm3KyQvvfdjM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:58:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:58:14 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hoe gaat het met jou broer! Goed ;-) > thats what i thought,i will not even get into it if its CPU hungry and > not stable,ive been really happy using mobius stand alone and x ternal > fx because its really stable that way With instable I mean crashes, audio drop outs, CPU spikes causing serious problems when performing live on stage...in other words unreliable. The thing is that, on the same laptop, Mainstage crashes several times a day, Bidule is running OK, as well as Native Instruments Kore2. Ableton Live has been the most stable of all the last 2 months, it has never crashed, not a single time. The strange thing is that Mainstage has been reasonably stable for about 6 months. I have the impression that the problems have begun with OSX 10.6 and Mainstage 2.1 and above. Anyway, Mainstage is over and out as long as I haven't re-installed my laptop. I already too many hours in trying to reproduce the problems and solve them but I have stopped spending time on it. All I can say is that any combination of OSX, Motu drivers, Mobius and Mainstage has failed on my Macbook. > seems that Ableton =A0would be the answer,dont know how stable it runs wi= th mobius I don't know how it runs in combination with Mobius, haven't tested it yet and won't test it because I use too little features of Mobius. The only option I will really miss is the scripting. > i dont know augustus loop though how does it compare to mobius? Augustus is a tape delay with very little functions you'll find in an high end looper such as an EDP, LP1 or Mobius. You can't really compare them, they are 2 completely different beasts. But for my Ambient projects, Augustus Loop is an excellent choice and good enough for me: it's really stable and reliable, good analog and tape delay emulation, and has all the basic functions I use, such as pitch -12 ..+12 , reverse, filters, midi sync, delay times up to 3600 seconds, tap length / tap record, freeze loop, clear loop. I use 2 or 3 instances simultaneously but unsynced so that makes it a relatively easy looper system. However, you can sync multiple instances of Augustus and setup a sort of multi-track looper but keep in mind that you're using a tape delay emulation effect rather than a full featured looper such as Mobius. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 20:02:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECF9C18345E; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:02:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xNc0w4nMXBRlTl+PR+rC8JX9nxqLKowI9V2g3RsjzdA=; b=lCBMP22hdGGtSEsmTzv4ZIX4ROugAQakr/4QiZUiiWZWlOvGiRXtgBRBoM55oKpwe+ mrU8yBOMYdcnN/vH1u4S5MsExGoIny7GbBP2B3AL/6mShClDQRRXul6brCZ9mfmFjl44 LtBSjg+qYBXmj3jG8SEBXRidXgFELItS9swKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OfCpnz5LqnMEm7tiBT4dCpfuKBWwPdApg47jKMOBeuQT/zaaFSckjW0BiTJizabtl+ k/nHsW2k+HQ0yr5BJVuCRVkKitKQSq1Dmi6/m2ZNeFeEs3/Wo+w0fESJgVufXqkHp2VS 05BcxokOZW+6af3xtqjbHjEcG14ecIXtHIH2M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110119101829.266230@gmx.net> References: <20110119101829.266230@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:02:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:02:21 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, wrote: > Only thing that gets on my nerves is that Mainstage occasionally interrupts live looping with "feedback detected". Check you manual for more info but I'm 100% sure you can switch off feedback detection for each track in Mainstage. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 20:06:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2334D183454; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D37443C.90801@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:06:20 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, LUIS ANGULO Subject: Re: RE: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFFC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFFC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:06:30 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Not pushing for it, but I have to agree with Louie that the ability on > the lp1 to start the drumb machine with a command also starting record, > and to stop the drumb machine with a record stop command is so, so nice. > But from playing with it in person, I could see that it would take a bit > of workaround, but maybe not, I would sure trade one of those effects to > be able to toggle on that when I recorded a loop, it sent midi start and > then midi stop by the just normal rec play buttons..........that > wouldn't be that big a deal programming wise I would think. I'll forward this on to Bob. But part of the problem, as always exists when one makes a commitment to releasing a product for public consumption is that you have to invest a lot of money to have things like cases manufactured and painted. Can you imagine Roland, which continually releases products with irritating lack of features, being responsive to a thread on this list by someone who says, "It's unfortunate that such and such a feature doesn't exist on this product. Why don't you change it" It's a done deal once they've committed to releasing something and everyone has to sit around for two or three years until the next thing comes out and pray that they listened to their users. In the case of the LP-2, Bob's been working hard on this for the last year and a half: the cases are finished, the feature set is already silkscreened on the cases and we have a solid release date to get them into the hands of anyone who likes the machine. It just may not be feasible, financially, to be able to incorporate this request, no matter how cool it is. Bob is a single person company. He has to juggle a full time job, a large family with all of the work that it takes to design the loopers he makes. He doesn't have deep pockets for this project. Quite the contrary. At this point it would probably take hundreds of dollars if not thousands, to incorporate this idea and delay the release of the unit another few months (it takes forever to get cases manufactured and painted, trust me on this one). It probably won't be economically feasible to do it as it's just a little late in the game to have the suggestion come up as good as it is. If it's a make or break deal for Luis, then I understand and support him not to buy it, but there is a huge probability that it's just too late in the game to make a change like this, despite, the ease of changing the software. Does it do everything? No, but nothing does everything, especially in this price range. I still think it's pretty cool for the price. And I'll forward this idea onto Bob. There are a couple of features that could be easily dispensed with to make room for it. I just want people to be realistic about the chances of it's occurring. with respect, rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 20:07:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 488E5183460; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hAJKEM6zCozPg/L+bdHcYfrcW2ZQOHfJY/4ZXA5Wd8A=; b=bX8BcgsDWFfqDWSxk3gwqnQcH6j0hUyXzWs00c2Wnly/Z2wguuMxY87+DrE/8vlm7B PilHyohjeT7KxoaBxb7+YZrH9J8s3R1P6hMLDyUUZ2L5ffwQV+laWUwOjvCzFfjG0DOu lv5fX9MYB/NdV8yp7h4eNPaKRFfRYVT7Yblyg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PTOBf9uGj5WgWUaByDrAW9Fx84tCk8CqMo9ZlS3/nS/dDC+V0Sana++Y3A+F6JBZdv po6vub+uzfAxcF0fZXUkgcUupU3wfqZ0lt2xQHg4ShIYhUwCavFkre7bNtVn1+h2U5ft 0vNQNYoX8meSOEp6oMUzXX4WkZ5gj2QmEH9gY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:07:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Good Augustus write-up, Sjaak. I would just like to add that this tape delay simulator plugin offers two ways of rate/speed shifting; both tonally quantized to semi tone steps and seamless like speeding/slowing a tape or turntable playback. That is a golden feature IMHO! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Augustus is a tape delay with very little functions you'll find in an > high end looper such as an EDP, LP1 or Mobius. You can't really > compare them, they are 2 completely different beasts. But for my > Ambient projects, Augustus Loop is an excellent choice and good enough > for me: it's really stable and reliable, good analog and tape delay > emulation, and has all the basic functions I use, such as pitch -12 > ..+12 , reverse, filters, midi sync, delay times up to 3600 seconds, > tap length / tap record, freeze loop, clear loop. I use 2 or 3 > instances simultaneously but unsynced so that makes it a relatively > easy looper system. However, you can sync multiple instances of > Augustus and setup a sort of multi-track looper but keep in mind that > you're using a tape delay emulation effect rather than a full featured > looper such as Mobius. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 20:10:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47B0C18345B; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jpNpu3VTCnvNaxfLfzgYe3BGGZsrVaEQnrY17Yxv+GE=; b=KR5iWWS8rZXYEJ+A0gnPPFAVA5X9BMq4POOUogUVbbUh08s3a19X6YtHNmmRtVyNqD dmOEEcvFd/XHQrS5nWqiNqsf5Ex3U5VgVoBHTJzvuat+KfFui1Ex2ZaFkwxtxwhEt7TS 3Yf98ZVsE1TElPdremF8gJH11rwXXw9z2Xbjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=F4PmjfY9ZqkwtqzjUBV98AjSWplR/WshkjjjRbGzrRqc1+Y47te7SC5tI2zxuB6/PG EDD8ibzQ7VrdrftlbbER8+mf/3Xbuby+jo18LCvwpn7sKdiHdLUSfjT4pYbWaU6CYTEA G0RzRrIlrBHY0GlV9C9GqzzR+x4cRIZ6kDeHE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:10:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:10:06 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Augustus Oops, forgot to tell that it has this lovely "Inertia" function that lets you set how slow the seamless speed/rate shifting will be. Of course that is an emulation of a tape loop that slowly catches up to a new tape speed. Very useful function, Inertia. :-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 20:13:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 324C818347A; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iJhb0+L0YDv46QbsWExG21FB+ZQYjF6saxUNssR+lLA=; b=KlhjOYPE+b3Dx5H+6/uWZhhEr1Y/7rid0/SOrKgsdnooE8Pn6SXGKIoQlXCM7p0AqB 8hrj20fjlIoUqEVoGIEtu7P8Rr1gNfhJYbBGP8015PSMMr7elLtkiiIO7LKMHmnMYKcM St1VvHp/qsGKXEWuZgMhTr+GiUtS1jDS2TZR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pq07NH6X6qKssp7xo+bXBFSvgkkRQaguOM+iZtuom632euW50zOQE0SaYyJhilcftm 2/PrlpD08Nye39zVQwWl5L7JylOI6H86Kviqyfex6sgCgOUMqbctRx3UbpvntuteyL23 QoKZ7Xn4S7hHKSsMTXSciM0EOaEDcwjsHQY7g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <06AF65C8053942CA87C9774DCD0195DB@mpeserver> References: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> <06AF65C8053942CA87C9774DCD0195DB@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:13:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:13:17 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > "staggering stutters that will leave your listeners screaming for more" = =C2=A0:) > :) > LOL... and did you see the video interview? BT "tested" the Stutter Edit on a 130 000 people crows at a giant dance floor. Would be cool to test new looping devices that way! ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 20:15:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF664183485; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D374645.7000307@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:15:01 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rainer Straschill CC: "Looper's Delight Mailing List" Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? References: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-wiT8.A.g3E.MZ0NNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:15:08 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > via gearjunkies.com: > http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/ > > Another thingie for intuitively mashing up audio input with the > electronic dance folks in mind. > > Rainer > Maha and I sat through the entire demo of this piece of software. It's really amazing what it can do and it's very, very deep. They offered it at NAMM for $150 and the street price is $250 but I, alas, just didn't have the moolah to pick it up. For me, it's dream software. Very, very hip real time manipulation of both triggering and pitch whilst always staying in sync with whatever incoming audio is happening. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 20:24:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF36A183481; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NrU2B80QClWTmQCdkv91Oh1cc1u8FDrEuyNRrUIxegA=; b=P6nZcxmfHzAJDcsNK5zaoXLnW2QFGaiaB14Ut9ZX5DaLF/UwgWUn36D2oQeMxqwf/k 73usfid/dEi73y10JKxOwqh6oDu3NHu+LqibGypCPlyFTLnmuYhVzAeqZVbgdfr/jA+k z0AoeGUCNk2X7oi4Q7CUQa91/QofYEkvg6YTM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H/Amyp6H9nI02jVgqv1PX+qMruJLxeSCHLZSiV84W7ls4Fhum8Ro7138MG2LMNJCvT 6HWboqJG3quOjjRc4zLfi0wWWii7IC6od/m4MRl2zqJlE7YZ6rCk/n80SeKNnvSGnLc9 VUsFQrv4ajhHk/ok1jj2JxSrY20nU9DawUEn4= Message-ID: <4D374847.1010108@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:23:35 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? References: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> <4D374645.7000307@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D374645.7000307@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Anything like that _but_ in a standalone hardware (stompbox) ? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 20:51:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E6FC18345B; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:51:07 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gans , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , "RICK WALKER- 412 Darwin Street (back house)" , "Y2KXloopfest@yahoo.com" Subject: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> In-Reply-To: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:51:14 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans wrote: > Where can I see more info on the LP2? http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=LP2 LP-2 Mini Looper FEATURE SET: Double stomp box size AC: 9v battery or Wall Wart 9v 200ma, tip negative power supply Onboard storage of up to 8 loops on SD card Audio: Mono in and Mono out Fidelity: 16bit, 44.1khz 30 levels of Undo Feedback control (via additional expression pedal jack on back) LED input VU meter Input and Output volume control Four multi functional foot controlled buttons which control 1) RECORD/OVERDUB/UNDO 2) PLAY/STOP 3) EFFECT ONE, either: a) Continue (whereever a loop was stopped) b) ReTrigger (Continuous) c) 1/2 Speed d) Replace e) Q replace 1/8th notes f) Q replace 1/12 (triplet 8ths) g) Q replace 1/7 (7/8) h) Q replace 1/10 (5/8 or 5/4) 4) EFFECT TWO, either: a) ReTrigger (One Shot - Sample) b) ReTrigger (Random) c) 1/4 Speed d) Reverse e) Q replace 1/16th notes f) Q replace 1/24 (triplet 16th notes) g) Q replace 1/9 (9/8) h) Q replace 1/64 (Glitch mode) Street Price: $300 (10% discount if pre-ordered before March 1st release) Order from Bob Amstadt bob@looperlative.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 20:58:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87009183459; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:58:11 -0800 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <52D9036D-31BA-49A9-926B-A46AE1B4E57E@trufun.com> References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <-bntoD.A.2IG.tB1NNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:58:22 +0000 (UTC) That looks like fun! Anyone want to buy a never-used RC-50? On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans wrote: >> Where can I see more info on the LP2? > http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=3DLP2 >=20 >=20 > LP-2 Mini Looper >=20 > FEATURE SET: >=20 > Double stomp box size > AC: 9v battery or Wall Wart 9v 200ma, tip negative power supply > Onboard storage of up to 8 loops on SD card > Audio: Mono in and Mono out Fidelity: 16bit, 44.1khz > 30 levels of Undo > Feedback control (via additional expression pedal jack on back) > LED input VU meter > Input and Output volume control > Four multi functional foot controlled buttons which control > 1) RECORD/OVERDUB/UNDO > 2) PLAY/STOP > 3) EFFECT ONE, either: > a) Continue (whereever a loop was stopped) > b) ReTrigger (Continuous) > c) 1/2 Speed > d) Replace > e) Q replace 1/8th notes > f) Q replace 1/12 (triplet 8ths) > g) Q replace 1/7 (7/8) > h) Q replace 1/10 (5/8 or 5/4) > 4) EFFECT TWO, either: > a) ReTrigger (One Shot - Sample) > b) ReTrigger (Random) > c) 1/4 Speed > d) Reverse > e) Q replace 1/16th notes > f) Q replace 1/24 (triplet 16th notes) > g) Q replace 1/9 (9/8) > h) Q replace 1/64 (Glitch mode) >=20 > Street Price: $300 (10% discount if pre-ordered before March 1st = release) > Order from Bob Amstadt bob@looperlative.com >=20 >=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 21:08:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF3CF183474; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+VY5PcpGC038Xz78eAqgr5YRb2tA/GQ7/U8hyXUod04=; b=tOU8ciBgcooQF1KtCQGC9qDbanyLc1pE0YHifHX2joh+tdl9EP+RpT7LpgChy2+AvO uwFHbiDaCQJeHtaGUqgD41dM95VUvkN1sPoHbdJ7Uo5m9W1fWqiJ42bZDqF5bubmpUnJ Tz3ExPOFXV7hrFvHVZ172+kgKaJMuhPZY0Gfo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RFRfQO7FJ+yDNkGCXxv7aUuikklO/O4Kzgi73x8cf0S9KnPs/hnkFx6sNDGgztSyTr vywa4HxgjHx97gWFgVrzDdL6h7XDmGfs5PgGP9UpX91hKlqHkdgcvrDutwChQhAhAQxk rjQdYjww3Wplgz1ReaL+SMb+C364YcZxv/6Gs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <52D9036D-31BA-49A9-926B-A46AE1B4E57E@trufun.com> References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> <52D9036D-31BA-49A9-926B-A46AE1B4E57E@trufun.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:08:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set From: Gary Lehmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646d5bee75e95049a396941 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:08:08 +0000 (UTC) --00163646d5bee75e95049a396941 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The inclusion of pedal controlled feedback alone sets this one apart from the others in its price range. Now to raise the cash (:^/ --00163646d5bee75e95049a396941 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The inclusion of pedal controlled feedback alone=A0sets this one apart= from the others in its price range.
Now to raise the cash (:^/
--00163646d5bee75e95049a396941-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 21:22:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C35BB18347A; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-30--662646118 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:22:13 -0800 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: <4246838F-0AD2-4416-841C-9DB36CB28594@trufun.com> References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> <52D9036D-31BA-49A9-926B-A46AE1B4E57E@trufun.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:22:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-30--662646118 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That is a huge reason for me to buy one. I'm in. On Jan 19, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Gary Lehmann wrote: > The inclusion of pedal controlled feedback alone sets this one apart = from the others in its price range. >=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --Apple-Mail-30--662646118 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
The = inclusion of pedal controlled feedback alone sets this one apart = from the others in its price range.


david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth = and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA = 94610-2730




= --Apple-Mail-30--662646118-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 21:24:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6C6D183486; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o1+U1vdG+j9CY87qQEs3H89x2JZ1WHPd/PJpY2QhrK8=; b=QBMecznLiZEbNzA9MT+etV8xjzNwfAWYwFHYU+h5Tefr5zHBC7biTHkCXTlsc9ji5s dEBfRMMHCt4NxeOGQhARY/UvAWA3HrrN8jY1xdWrNl14wj0Qak3xR7+UGDulv/Fhe/DY mJ0dIE0AJsq4yUIHSF21zUzB3cwQ34r89jnqY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TRJoEtli+TMSK0dJfGTTZ9yL2FU55W278vchqyeq9tv3mRdfDbfO1chONnUGUuYPkt UKg8QaBums2fjOVs2KYsDkOf4tT5PW7wh0sAJh4L7BuQfHFabTZBzcYFoyRO2/UHWMYF vo/22EiRmEd20jEJhiIESuOiAy1meWiH/Clb8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:24:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364274b49ecd05049a39a541 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:24:50 +0000 (UTC) --0016364274b49ecd05049a39a541 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 didn't augustus loop allow scripting? 2011/1/19 Per Boysen > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Augustus > > Oops, forgot to tell that it has this lovely "Inertia" function that > lets you set how slow the seamless speed/rate shifting will be. Of > course that is an emulation of a tape loop that slowly catches up to a > new tape speed. Very useful function, Inertia. :-) > > Per > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0016364274b49ecd05049a39a541 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable didn't augustus loop allow scripting?

2011/1/19 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Augustus

Oops, forgot to tell that it has this lovely "Inertia" function t= hat
lets you set how slow the seamless speed/rate shifting will be. Of
course that is an emulation of a tape loop that slowly catches up to a
new tape speed. Very useful function, Inertia. :-)

Per




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--0016364274b49ecd05049a39a541-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 21:32:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D995183492; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AAEqJLxGlCDC5bKGCnIg/MyH9QqmVynTKb2nAunZTVs=; b=OlEVNdVp8yvYc5xRMn9oqp715T/bmQl2sXDphlqk/ktPFDDYFQKxFw6HlIsEvKgpc0 2DH95C1XIP0pkJqa4chwCSFCyOR7/l6JF/vI/X9uIJomB7Mfn2mMUEYdEub1yoZCVhBq 7ml+MVmcigAkx8Ehmr6nZZT2fnMYypQaPabJM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=S+jgTnSOeuxgAsrNefr0uAMm8FFZNi+X4DEmYhKJ4OSj1h78VDCUlEZRAfGAbL8D2q XNXFPkoHO8xC3xleWULgjECGiNh3B9eFEQDxYMoRxg0iBcAmrYVWsvNI0JqFJ3qsS3vz X6FGMNw92trIB3Rwzyvz1DnVXDMVkG3UJymt8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:32:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:32:46 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Raul Bonell wrote= : > didn't augustus loop allow scripting? Yes, good point Raul ;-) Augustus support Lua script, and I quote "it is possible to extend the plug-in=92s MIDI & OSC functionality via user-writeable scripts". Never used it myself btw, can't comment on it. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 21:38:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37FBF18347A; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w2IHellc9d7iBeuUiQ3WhWG4KHLh7bavZLKXds3UmbU=; b=nNSyxLIJTesgwN4snEKnbkyY8IVykf69nXil2GRmPrLdJoPZwdp+tEYqSl/MJAUIJw FRRFlV1KwpBILmfElAW/bQMM3LzyjLmkUTXIgFyVwb8ZZm+gOUMoB3FfIShFWM9o9oZu TinyutFwoYkIFuOozaUpp52Oz2hK6rciFYRlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=keRmwIoodH0glbRR1QlBAsgnzz3IUBnTk8SEBlpmvJ/Tjh32+MmgA4F9RKUUAUYJVT Xf4iTL2RKuB/+biTNlSeuNDnPW9B7BzMFMTjAm2oj5eDsPuYrMCr4j1/EhPbMjsITqAR OG4HNx9chb0AlyAbYR+OA9dXEzfnYkVaTxd48= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:38:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6509d4aa14817049a39d517 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:38:16 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6509d4aa14817049a39d517 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just wondering if somebody had used scripting with AL and had some aural examples of some other extended functions. Overgaauw > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Raul Bonell > wrote: > > didn't augustus loop allow scripting? > > Yes, good point Raul ;-) > > Augustus support Lua script, and I quote "it is possible to extend > the plug-in=92s MIDI & OSC functionality via user-writeable scripts". > Never used it myself btw, can't comment on it. > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > --=20 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0016e6509d4aa14817049a39d517 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just wondering if somebody had used scripting with AL and had some aural ex= amples of some other extended functions.=A0

Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com>
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Raul Bone= ll <raul.bonell@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
> didn't augustus loop allow scripting?

Yes, good point Raul ;-)

=A0Augustus support Lua script, and I quote "it is possible to extend<= br> the plug-in=92s MIDI & OSC functionality via user-writeable scripts&quo= t;.
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--0016e6509d4aa14817049a39d517-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 21:45:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8139918347B; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=edziFJAn8W5+yvMsirxh0Cb2IdFHqo5z6OYQnnVTJlk=; b=wRfRtxq6VLImpg8F7jPV8DfOr5wMjnMdKUOsxuUMq6W5WUaE2osrq6/1iW+7cAf4vO wXJWAdtvtJJjleEGjp93Ju/oviG/TxM8ja4lBAmskpnCz9EBqYuGTNZvZnqK4p6gMThj 3lAsauzo0jCVDdgJsAle9F8V5eYvXkjaGN2w8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mae89s5YsLXDVpaaPLidtbHDhxIqt9Uqs+XuHmAriUv4RstH+Y8OxiRnSLNYyOyQLA wqA/711cB9tWM0UyfT5cXVEq4Jft10He7DBWlQzMBMZYLOenj21ZfXdFIW+s1KVc8hfP lD3BmALeXAd3/90qCwgs+kTNgIaFMx2yxh03g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:45:11 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi there, Do any of you similarly obsessed guitarists know if there is an way way to use a single 13 pin synth guitar to drive a VG unit AND another guitar synth at the same time? I know Roland makes a switcher but $200 seems kind of steep. And as for the GR 55, if I didn't already have the units I want to use, I'd seriously consider going that route (but now that would include selling stuff and all those hassles, so not for now). Thanks, Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 21:54:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5827F18345E; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IQt5vWD1KJtYJi8b/un5jrflBJlX5gPaj225HXPYk74=; b=cUWHICDVIEvCzl3/PKm0NHtLsOtSG+KX2b7h2i4ZhvMqya2YxWKhWHCVkX7+ovkIH3 W2Bkcucrgfu9WguNDUCr/RsIuIYkEAXh8b8wSpVWLVVGL8LaPGrzVsh8QzKcqIRMVkAQ 2loFEu3CCAOeBACl3Hn6BQDz3DslN8YgXWk0I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hn6uO2UnhCchU60pr3jKgnLrYI2n55UO/+2rdRQAa+JMWg0TPsRHHPxKqFJbCBY4Gz FkYHxEV0nxUl9/bzYmhBWq4vHBJCin5vtTGbLHQxfPQa4RqBX8vqPIpRju8gjPE+0fA1 bPUw98hIeFelBc7X4+ccPhDWzIyR1ip7qlJ60= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:54:36 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8d62257a11049a3a10d6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:54:38 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8d62257a11049a3a10d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You can build one yourself. http://www.muc.de/~hm/music/us-20/ I got a GKP4 off of ebay a few years ago. Might be worth looking for. The only quirk I found is that both units (in my case VG8 & GR50) have to be powered on or it's flakey. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hi there, > > Do any of you similarly obsessed guitarists know if there is an way > way to use a single 13 pin synth guitar to drive a VG unit AND another > guitar synth at the same time? I know Roland makes a switcher but > $200 seems kind of steep. And as for the GR 55, if I didn't already > have the units I want to use, I'd seriously consider going that route > (but now that would include selling stuff and all those hassles, so > not for now). > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --90e6ba6e8d62257a11049a3a10d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can build one yourself.

http://www.muc.de/~hm/music/us-20/

I got a GKP4 off of eb= ay a few years ago.=A0 Might be worth looking for.

The only quirk I = found is that both units (in my case VG8 & GR50) have to be powered on = or it's flakey.


On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Kevin C= heli-Colando <= billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there,

Do any of you similarly obsessed guitarists know if there is an way
way to use a single 13 pin synth guitar to drive a VG unit AND another
guitar synth at the same time? =A0I know Roland makes a switcher but
$200 seems kind of steep. =A0And as for the GR 55, if I didn't already<= br> have the units I want to use, I'd seriously consider going that route (but now that would include selling stuff and all those hassles, so
not for now).

Thanks,

Kevin

--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos




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From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:58:03 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > just wondering if somebody had used scripting with AL and had some aural > examples of some other extended functions. I did find this: 'How to do live looping with Augustus Loop 2.1 and an FCB1010 midi foot controller". Source: http://ausdemfenster.de/?p=23 It covers custom Augustus GUI, custom LUA midi script etc -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 22:06:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3ECA7183487; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:06:43 -0800 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7D4062FE-EDC8-47EF-8D92-1541272FB63B@trufun.com> References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:06:44 +0000 (UTC) What sort of pedal do I need to make this work? Does it operate the way = feedback works on the EDP? On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Feedback control (via additional expression pedal jack on back) David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 22:09:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0C38183490; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2qK2++0GWVZ1JBr+rlPgwYnYFVJ45hpOPRjRU6oHQZk=; b=L4vWPSxorqHIDPINl5jWTXmGNi0PVZAqwi0t6KGcRz8Qu9YvS5qja0g5tgU35LexK7 mB/K8j+zc2oHy/xZupugT61pmIB5W35GFoHH2kvngpqtnF8moQESYayiq8T3APO6TKTF WGkrH2JDwMNk38Cs/2v9d00mYuocoKGGuzDVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eipYydg9h3q9YF5H7VFiRXF6egDx4T1LxJAmwhysPFAsatBD4dSQSTYbj4YfKceLgf ZGBbN0WtD/aefsri7fDbJYM97rwAEWokBetFWoCZUL16qWkDi/lRzMLM+dXcFw+aAoaq pfvxeQ8JLpdjyUbiiDLw68Vc5jiGdZyYBhmiM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:09:29 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Two choices: 1. As Tony K said, a GPK-4, IF you can find one...and the last one I saw was about $100 on eBay...they don't show up often. 2. A Roland US-20 (which I think is what you were talking about). Again, hit eBay because $200 is ridiculous. You might also check Daddy's Junky Music (http://www.daddys.com/) as I picked up a new one in box for about $120 two years ago. People seem to be driving the price up on these; I was shocked when I saw the new ones for around $200 recently... The GPK-4 is NOT a switch so much as more of a router...it's always on; it DOES allow you to decide if you will be sending patch switches or volume control switching. The US-20 is strictly an A/B switch. I use both with the VG-8, the GR-1 and the GI-20 (which is running an XV202= 0). YMMV. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hi there, > > Do any of you similarly obsessed guitarists know if there is an way > way to use a single 13 pin synth guitar to drive a VG unit AND another > guitar synth at the same time? =A0I know Roland makes a switcher but > $200 seems kind of steep. =A0And as for the GR 55, if I didn't already > have the units I want to use, I'd seriously consider going that route > (but now that would include selling stuff and all those hassles, so > not for now). > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 22:17:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEEA118349E; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> <7D4062FE-EDC8-47EF-8D92-1541272FB63B@trufun.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <7D4062FE-EDC8-47EF-8D92-1541272FB63B@trufun.com> Message-ID: thread-topic: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set thread-index: Acu4Jq0n403eShDTSZuS6VkohCQnZA== Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:17:16 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 22:17:47.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3F691E0:01CBB826] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Looks like just any old expression pedal, like a vol pedal but programmable t= o what you want.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 19, 2011, at 5:06 PM, David Gans wrote: >=20 > What sort of pedal do I need to make this work? Does it operate the way f= eedback works on the EDP? >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >=20 >> Feedback control (via additional expression pedal jack on back) >=20 >=20 >=20 > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 19 23:52:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69642183466; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 23:52:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Vox review References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <9D3D18FC-EA45-4C5B-A278-76E2B6CF0794@1800dialword.com> <0EC91D74-E0D2-42A9-A660-9F1E9FCF624F@grubmah.com> <675497B8-55B6-428F-86EE-4747C8CF7D64@1800dialword.com> <2F10427A-EA0F-4E64-9EAD-29CEDCF9BB71@trufun.com> <9A2E4620-5C3E-4A45-9B09-B79071C58C95@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-1--653642646"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:52:16 -0500 Thread-Topic: Vox review Thread-Index: Acu4M/DHGhSIlkgBQYmrnbBwxP2mrg== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 23:52:35.0702 (UTC) FILETIME=[F23B8160:01CBB833] Resent-Message-ID: <1KsdIB.A.G7E.Fl3NNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 23:52:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--653642646 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Fro, man you gotta tell me, is that you did that rain song???? Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:44 PM, "FRO DIDDLY" wrote: > the xfade lets you use the volume pedal to manually fade between loop 1 an= d loop 2 >=20 >=20 > The Wandering Madman=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Subject: Re: Vox review > > From: andy@1800dialword.com > > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:35:50 -0500 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > There is x-fade but I'm not exactly sure what that means.=20 > >=20 > > Andy Owens > > 1-800-AndyOwens > > Sent from my iPhone > > So the typing might not be my best! > >=20 > >=20 > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:54 PM, David Gans wrote: > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Thanks, Andy. My big question about any stomp box looper is: does it h= ave an adjustable feedback (decay) control? > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > > >=20 > > >> Over at www.andyowens.com on the blog.=20 > > >=20 > > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > > > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > > > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > > > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > > > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--653642646 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgYmdjb2xvcj0iI0ZGRkZGRiI+PGRpdj5Gcm8sIG1hbiB5b3UgZ290dGEgdGVs bCBtZSwgaXMgdGhhdCB5b3UgZGlkIHRoYXQgcmFpbiBzb25nPz8/Pzxicj48YnI+QW5keSBPd2Vu czxkaXY+MS04MDAtQW5keU93ZW5zPC9kaXY+PGRpdj5TZW50IGZyb20gbXkgaVBob25lPGRpdj5T byB0aGUgdHlwaW5nIG1pZ2h0IG5vdCBiZSBteSBiZXN0ITwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2Pjwv ZGl2PjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPk9uIEphbiAxOCwgMjAxMSwgYXQgMTA6NDQgUE0sICJGUk8gRElE RExZIiAmbHQ7PGEgaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOnBhcmlzcHJvMDBAaG90bWFpbC5jb20iPnBhcmlzcHJv MDBAaG90bWFpbC5jb208L2E+Jmd0OyB3cm90ZTo8YnI+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PC9kaXY+PGJs b2NrcXVvdGUgdHlwZT0iY2l0ZSI+PGRpdj4NCnRoZSB4ZmFkZSBsZXRzIHlvdSB1c2UgdGhlIHZv bHVtZSBwZWRhbCB0byBtYW51YWxseSBmYWRlIGJldHdlZW4gbG9vcCAxIGFuZCBsb29wIDI8YnI+ PGJyPg0KPGJyPg0KDQo8YSBocmVmPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL1RoZVdhbmRlcmlu Z01hZG1hbiIgdGFyZ2V0PSJfYmxhbmsiPlRoZSBXYW5kZXJpbmcgTWFkbWFuIDwvYT4NCjxicj48 YnI+PGJyPjxicj4mZ3Q7IFN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBWb3ggcmV2aWV3PGJyPiZndDsgRnJvbTogPGEg aHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOmFuZHlAMTgwMGRpYWx3b3JkLmNvbSI+PGEgaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOmFuZHlA MTgwMGRpYWx3b3JkLmNvbSI+YW5keUAxODAwZGlhbHdvcmQuY29tPC9hPjwvYT48YnI+Jmd0OyBE YXRlOiBUdWUsIDE4IEphbiAyMDExIDIyOjM1OjUwIC0wNTAwPGJyPiZndDsgVG86IDxhIGhyZWY9 Im1haWx0bzpMb29wZXJzLURlbGlnaHRAbG9vcGVycy1kZWxpZ2h0LmNvbSI+PGEgaHJlZj0ibWFp bHRvOkxvb3BlcnMtRGVsaWdodEBsb29wZXJzLWRlbGlnaHQuY29tIj5Mb29wZXJzLURlbGlnaHRA bG9vcGVycy1kZWxpZ2h0LmNvbTwvYT48L2E+PGJyPiZndDsgPGJyPiZndDsgVGhlcmUgaXMgeC1m YWRlIGJ1dCBJJ20gbm90IGV4YWN0bHkgc3VyZSB3aGF0IHRoYXQgbWVhbnMuIDxicj4mZ3Q7IDxi cj4mZ3Q7IEFuZHkgT3dlbnM8YnI+Jmd0OyAxLTgwMC1BbmR5T3dlbnM8YnI+Jmd0OyBTZW50IGZy b20gbXkgaVBob25lPGJyPiZndDsgU28gdGhlIHR5cGluZyBtaWdodCBub3QgYmUgbXkgYmVzdCE8 YnI+Jmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyBPbiBKYW4gMTgsIDIwMTEsIGF0IDk6NTQgUE0sIERh dmlkIEdhbnMgJmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpkYXZpZEB0cnVmdW4uY29tIj5kYXZpZEB0cnVm dW4uY29tPC9hPiZndDsgd3JvdGU6PGJyPiZndDsgPGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7 IDxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsgVGhhbmtzLCBBbmR5LiAgTXkgYmlnIHF1ZXN0aW9uIGFib3V0IGFueSBz dG9tcCBib3ggbG9vcGVyIGlzOiBkb2VzIGl0IGhhdmUgYW4gYWRqdXN0YWJsZSBmZWVkYmFjayAo ZGVjYXkpIGNvbnRyb2w/PGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7IDxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsg PGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7IE9uIEphbiAxOCwgMjAxMSwgYXQgNjozNSBQTSwg QW5keSBPd2VucyB3cm90ZTo8YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7IDxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsmZ3Q7IE92ZXIgYXQg PGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbmR5b3dlbnMuY29tIj53d3cuYW5keW93ZW5zLmNvbTwvYT4g b24gdGhlIGJsb2cuIDxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsgPGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyBEYXZpZCBHYW5zIC0gPGEg aHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOmRhdmlkQHRydWZ1bi5jb20iPmRhdmlkQHRydWZ1bi5jb208L2E+IG9yIDxh IGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpkYXZpZEBnZGhvdXIuY29tIj48YSBocmVmPSJtYWlsdG86ZGF2aWRAZ2Ro b3VyLmNvbSI+ZGF2aWRAZ2Rob3VyLmNvbTwvYT48L2E+PGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyBUcnV0aCBhbmQg RnVuLCBJbmMuLCA0ODQgTGFrZSBQYXJrIEF2ZS4gIzEwMiwgT2FrbGFuZCBDQSA5NDYxMC0yNzMw PGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyBCbG9nOiAgPGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL2Nsb3Vkc3VyZmluZy5nZGhvdXIu Y29tIj48YSBocmVmPSJodHRwOi8vY2xvdWRzdXJmaW5nLmdkaG91ci5jb20iPmh0dHA6Ly9jbG91 ZHN1cmZpbmcuZ2Rob3VyLmNvbTwvYT48L2E+PGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyBXZWIgc2l0ZTogPGEgaHJl Zj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy5kZ2Fucy5jb20iPjxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZGdhbnMuY29tIj5o dHRwOi8vd3d3LmRnYW5zLmNvbTwvYT48L2E+PGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyBQaG90b3M6IDxhIGhyZWY9 Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZmxpY2tyLmNvbS9waG90b3MvZGdhbnMiPjxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cu ZmxpY2tyLmNvbS9waG90b3MvZGdhbnMiPmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZmxpY2tyLmNvbS9waG90b3MvZGdh bnM8L2E+PC9hPjxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsgTXVzaWM6IDxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuY2RiYWJ5 LmNvbS9hbGwvZGdhbnMiPjxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuY2RiYWJ5LmNvbS9hbGwvZGdhbnMi Pmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuY2RiYWJ5LmNvbS9hbGwvZGdhbnM8L2E+PC9hPjxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsgPGJy PiZndDsgJmd0OyA8YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7IDxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsgPGJyPiZndDsgPGJyPiAJCSAJ ICAgCQkgIA0KPC9kaXY+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvYm9keT48L2h0bWw+ --Apple-Mail-1--653642646-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 00:13:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB81818345D; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=863t3eWb8hNUHo9HYL7SRpeyARKz4gdiniB1C86Tt1k=; b=Y6VwDP23bEc52y5Fh7MClp0Pe4fVtVcUYSs//9S+Ltz0HGbLL+t/CMkZ1OD0lC4mir wXTbW0IeLNvrsDnmcAYZ8GjMJk1JJewGSdbqLkPoLSp0wMGbW1ZhDDNxv4Ms1HbPjMJH Sk6FIBRu+ZFTapilI0Nz6QhRtylCfafHBvsyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZjwuhxyaS7aV2PUOj79VWG7zHst6lb6/ffHimgM/kIQb3BUvns0r6B8GNvTz73Z/ym B6m9PtFnBZs9lw4mGw7SYDW7oDrG+FihkJIVEz4AXe1X1ogfvTygJo0p/u5PzvjKil50 D1CdanJMrOzKQn0m40SD7vrL8RSEVgSsNLQ3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D37443C.90801@cruzio.com> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFFC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <4D37443C.90801@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:13:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RE: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1lZEIC.A.TjF.943NNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:13:49 +0000 (UTC) > > Can you imagine Roland, which continually releases products with irritati= ng > lack of features, > being responsive to a thread on this list by someone who says, =A0"It's > unfortunate that > such and such a feature doesn't exist on this product. =A0Why don't you c= hange > it" No,i can not imagine Roland doing anything about it but i can imagine Bob doing it,i was under the impression that he was open to suggestions since it has been on the beta stages as he has been with the LP1.Before the line 6 M9 came out they were open to suggestions and i kept i insiting on an octave effect for bass lines and i was so glad that they implemented that on their upgrade,dont know if my suggestion was responsable for that but they were sure listening. > It's a done deal once they've committed to releasing something and everyo= ne > has to sit >around for two or three years until the next thing comes out and pray that > they listened to their users. ok good to know case closed. peace Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 00:44:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D86B183459; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=3qce_Qp9rmEA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kpHFvfvXAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=0ElmSIr9FQiD0xJbjEYA:9 a=cTeui8hbAEa0Chd4djcA:7 a=xodXIgiXkxAejpkxq_mhUaHiDpcA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:44:07 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <99505249.5306788.1295484247370.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: RE: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 44 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Kev, A GKP4 is what I use for my VG99, GR1 and sometimes even a WP20G. It works fine . . . if a little pricey for such a tiny little box with=20 no obvious other uses. :-) Ted On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hi there, > > Do any of you similarly obsessed guitarists know if there is an way > way to use a single 13 pin synth guitar to drive a VG unit AND another > guitar synth at the same time? I know Roland makes a switcher but > $200 seems kind of steep. And as for the GR 55, if I didn't already > have the units I want to use, I'd seriously consider going that route > (but now that would include selling stuff and all those hassles, so > not for now). > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have=20 > a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all=20 > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=C2=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 07:03:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4105183459; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NiRfnI6nw2N0gytH82Mepph8W18kMKHTAFkhdxI8PBc=; b=fmBcuSsIOTcQkOGhj5BFVw0/J1ik1R3xfybOZeeH3chZrQILxFpagKMqxAdJB8cf8i RfjZcLOb83jCECkhK3vn/pk9XEK4IwYjWc+zUfLaeXpv3pdIkK1G78WrINqljeQkHss+ k4trRa5deBq2pPkbyKf0J8Nv8+R4UZNwM547k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PRvV7/FggoSSXHMbqBZBSyyGBuMpf5HzHb/yaK0r+PLaMSQcOCmtrkhqDJQDzFzMtI U4ENAg+FT7sjqerduiSFYRiRbXdcBw/XrVJSUn+lR7sbPCmczlx6l3G0EMZ1ZKUObIAu C3E8+33XCYUAN6KJLAzmT2VKn6qSK5IopiCy8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <99505249.5306788.1295484247370.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> References: <99505249.5306788.1295484247370.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:01:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Can't you simply put =C3=A0 MIDI cable fr.o.m. The VG into the utger device= ? On Thursday, January 20, 2011, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn = wrote: > Kev, > > A GKP4 is what I use for my VG99, GR1 and sometimes even a WP20G. > > It works fine . . . if a little pricey for such a tiny little box with no= obvious other uses. > > :-) > > Ted > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > > Hi there, > > Do any of you similarly obsessed guitarists know if there is an way > way to use a single 13 pin synth guitar to drive a VG unit AND another > guitar synth at the same time? =C2=A0I know Roland makes a switcher but > $200 seems kind of steep. =C2=A0And as for the GR 55, if I didn't already > have the units I want to use, I'd seriously consider going that route > (but now that would include selling stuff and all those hassles, so > not for now). > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=C2=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 07:12:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03A9D18344B; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <78B9C908B81F4B49A94E18879CAF4393@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: Dirtbike randomaly looped and processed Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:11:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_022B_01CBB836.A7C918B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:12:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_022B_01CBB836.A7C918B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not resorting to combining my hobbies...motocross and dirtbikes with = MAX/MSP and looping. Electro-acoustic at its rawest. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-DYeu3sAYZY Kris ------=_NextPart_000_022B_01CBB836.A7C918B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm not resorting to combining my=20 hobbies...motocross and dirtbikes with MAX/MSP and looping. = Electro-acoustic at=20 its rawest.
 
Check it out. http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3D-DYeu3sAYZY
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_022B_01CBB836.A7C918B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 07:14:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D17E9183459; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:14:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/3LHHrZp633Taroor2Tqqs2hbMzU58pa1kyd3iqn4+w=; b=WLho/QVibSzkILU26hviO2myQXWZXbqHhoIz5l8Poi5ThTuUCqhxHTcI9W70m0rPWg R9YH6ha/ZJ31d5A9AJtGnVJYYhMjsy/WbgvCpvhVMQ7aBPKgKpbN7WO4LkT42ZJaQGy2 Gy1h75Yhp+SMR3BZ3UmYkoQDU75CJIm6maItw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Qe9MfWLtRZB/L6X1IuzoPMD6jQGJhCcxWp/bUK4M+8daC8eQNY9YBuQF+i1weMud1k FlaGMMCXdbKsjBt74UDunUOyyopCZLEMMgRXDYLiObarpdh0cnpCyCcYBKXNjEGC8Qs0 xdj3flD8VJXaMjkGVyutYXR8yk1Nkvk3Ev7tw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:14:42 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zvklVRfMY5MmSdorGFGcFLQTWpU Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:14:43 +0000 (UTC) I'm still lurking on this list in case anyone has any Augustus Loop questions/feature requests. cheers, os. (author of Augustus Loop) On 19 January 2011 21:58, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> just wondering if somebody had used scripting with AL and had some aural >> examples of some other extended functions. > > I did find this: > > 'How to do live looping with Augustus Loop 2.1 and an FCB1010 midi > foot controller". > Source: http://ausdemfenster.de/?p=23 > > It covers custom Augustus GUI, custom LUA midi script etc > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 07:18:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2AD6183453; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:18:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G/ycwDtMeSci/nbQknTSYa5ea8i0N058M69FbXRI3mw=; b=lUHkUOScJkL1HbqEisB6i6rkB6bBz6pOUCMH32yYGYlvcZc2ME5x3mUiWDKa0DbYnp 6MQZYuBIhlRWk/Pc+B4mnQr6q2Rqo7BgG9/lULb9uTK8hZIh0EwTxJoft/HPrCrOKBzm bxBQ+RosZaLmLQf6GUx5aZeiLkHW5RVqccXkU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q5Mp78LrspQtSqEbb5KXlOgzJBTn9PrtfmSjQ9ShzcSMXsaeNVvXtVitnZ9RRLOaXH +0J+TWv7lyyLqdn9S5ivUjvLJtlMNpeGrVDGIx8QCtkkYIuK65ESQWmBk5w6v7WOBSNa k+U7ofrXbva5IKuwazACW+dPclugKyFd7PvaU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:18:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:18:58 +0000 (UTC) I Scripted myself =C3=A0 minimal custom graphical interface. That's neat :-= ) On Wednesday, January 19, 2011, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Raul Bonell wro= te: >> just wondering if somebody had used scripting with AL and had some aural >> examples of some other extended functions. > > I did find this: > > 'How to do live looping with Augustus Loop 2.1 and an FCB1010 midi > foot controller". > Source: http://ausdemfenster.de/?p=3D23 > > It covers custom Augustus GUI, custom LUA midi script etc > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 07:23:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40BD018345B; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nAX/NJNZlKZsDixu+NIMjuN3HOQvErqmXT7iQpxg6zk=; b=M1C2H2OJQC7u2uRHdMwKFHrg2qKC6PRMEELt1CQfwJS3Tha2aS2kkontbTOrcKFBjv p9989Fsg6zd2z8pC/066W3DZMHMq6gFeULYifX1KdmE9j2fho1tySYW2/l+QXQiJGCEH ifxqUWMIlQSsND4lHv1i1SzupTQkSGdWBgW5A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Msg1AqLH0cT8nb9Z4oCoUluFjwl2Lo5Cg7K9RXUCB8Sb3BWN+gQba4lWUlhVj8P0kA TQD603yMYPq6e5l1N3DBXk9sfh9+gHZmJGwJNFedwpcGxwaTdCB/bdiNJf22Xbwc0Ig/ RQPN8JzkcxZ5cTqJ59+zv3yVEJpt8yxJoU338= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:23:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping? From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Yes. Lua. Nice On Wednesday, January 19, 2011, Raul Bonell wrote: > didn't augustus loop allow scripting? > > 2011/1/19 Per Boysen > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Augustus > > Oops, forgot to tell that it has this lovely "Inertia" function that > lets you set how slow the seamless speed/rate shifting will be. Of > course that is an emulation of a tape loop that slowly catches up to a > new tape speed. Very useful function, Inertia. :-) > > Per > > > > -- > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com > > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 07:42:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C81C818345A; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D37E74B.1020905@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 23:42:03 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louie Angulo CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4QE17C.A.5pC.Td-NNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:42:11 +0000 (UTC) I talked to Bob about implementing that Midi feature, Luis, and he said that it is just too late in the game and would be too expensive to change it at the last minute. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 08:16:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E8B9183474; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ObnsSHucrRVFzj9G4VNwAAAjF+ov6zZh5GQksubUV1s=; b=HQ88s9Mo2vj/+2gLk2UUmz6WMmRVnUtXkFhSaWb6qHBEJNNK/aYazga4S8FhIdjw4k WCJ3HYZQfRx12kMduI6yRePvWqzcU9GUZNzrQFU72a7CDBuPyKGdoPlD8S82FPsh7p1T tB0sK0h+Sk+zNAI2w6DwcsvXdfD+2JycGWIi0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Va+wRdKMNuO+hoPvCFo5hFxszvLPKKs4gDm3ifnsv2JbJPUqvcYzwYNVbSI+w+qrPD hDrkld5u4++W8FbMWhcW21SfWD5RoYVqmHxOEGkItPV0ppeSni4pcNh316ytXUQrUHOn FrhL3FUMqxNJzyZF4fULhfxbmoWHjeoa3RZ6w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <592B98C0-35BA-40EC-AC86-6210421FABF4@frontier.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A5227F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A522ED@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:16:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wireless Midi From: Marco Ronci To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e649c71aa63c62049a42beeb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:16:05 +0000 (UTC) --0016e649c71aa63c62049a42beeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ... probably SAC ... (www.softwareaudioconsole.com) Marco (with no affiliation with the above) 2011/1/19 Zoe Keating > when I played at CES a couple weeks ago the soundman had an instance of his > "mixer" on a laptop. so he could move freely around the space while > tweeting the levels and eq. it was so much easier! don't know what the > software was though. > > --0016e649c71aa63c62049a42beeb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... probably SAC ... (www.s= oftwareaudioconsole.com)

Marco (with no affiliation with the abo= ve)

2011/1/19 Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com>
when I played at CES a couple weeks ago the soundman h= ad an instance of his "mixer" on a laptop. =A0so he could move fr= eely around the space while tweeting the levels and eq. it was so much easi= er! don't know what the software was though.


--0016e649c71aa63c62049a42beeb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 10:54:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8042E18345B; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 568583262/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.136/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.136 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgQCABajN01V0rOI/2dsb2JhbAAMlirNEIVQBI42 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,350,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="568583262" Message-ID: <4D38146C.9070908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:54:36 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFFC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFFC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5ts09.A.19H.jRBONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Is it not possible that a drum machine can be set to not start until it starts receiving midi-clock? Andy Owens wrote: > Not pushing for it, but I have to agree with Louie that the ability on > the lp1 to start the drumb machine with a command also starting record, > and to stop the drumb machine with a record stop command is so, so nice. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 13:00:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91F6E18345B; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:59:54 +0900 Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth Thread-Index: Acu4oe5z2pgvjBoTSwKwxTVrPNA7Gg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:59:58 +0000 (UTC) On 1/20/11 4:01 PM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > > Can't you simply put =E0 MIDI cable fr.o.m. The VG into the utger device? Won't work, in most cases. The VG, of course, requires an actual audio signal to process via its COSM algorithm, so it's obvious why that's a non-starter through MIDI. However, most (all?) other guitar synths will also require a guitar-type controller to trigger the synth engine; they cannot be played via normal MIDI note input. So the architecture needs to be a "split and run in parallel" setup, rather than a "chain one device after another" effect run. Now if the question were concerning the VG in tandem with a generic MIDI synth module, your solution would work just fine. I've done the same with my VG-99 in conjunction with a JV-1080. Unfortunately in this case, both devices need to be driven from a GK-style pickup controller. Unless I overlooked something in the original problem description. Kevin...? (P.S. There's another footswitch besides the GKP-4 or US-20 that will allow you to take two GK inputs and route them to three different devices. It's = a custom job from a different company out of, I think, Germany. It's expensive, but not so much more than having to pay $200 for a US-20. At least you feel like you're getting something besides ripped off for that one.) --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 13:16:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C45BE183451; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:16:40 +0900 Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop Thread-Index: Acu4pEYTJOxLqeUpQ0WvrWerc+BeVQ== In-Reply-To: <4D38146C.9070908@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:16:44 +0000 (UTC) On 1/20/11 7:54 PM, "andy butler" wrote: > > Is it not possible that a drum machine can be set to > not start until it starts receiving midi-clock? Depends on the drum machine, I'd think. My old Studio 440 could do that; we used to use it that way in the studio all the time. We'd set the 440 to play -- which would cause it to stand by -- then fly in either Clock or MTC/SMPTE. Once it received some sort of sync code it'd start right up. We'd then juggle through the patterns manually. Of course, Dave Smith was way ahead of his time. I don't see why there shouldn't be other drum machines out there that could do the same thing, though. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 13:22:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA01318345B; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=iVaW4XgDjKrLhH/LztC8E+ht+hafmqY5ClIgRibnLWs=; b=Ry8pfmv1/qR6cPN0sGTcFeK+esfZD6WOV6dhoORdZTnUUJtQ/j6yP1bzUokTcfExov 9mAQEkL8/6w4y2VBkydS1lNJ9U7VoIvE5loJv/8AFTEnGuuPSBC8RP4vEea1af8HDZRn Z7zB4tp7lCZNZOww2YIYk7pjWp0d502f8O+8c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YflTACap2y6aISvo/LCaSHMjzhWpnXrZnTWxJ4eNMIswjp5jE2lj1FYPE4NwO9G4rf Da3o+C1e4hfwIiecdDyLv6n6xVYhOzCfBmjShvnCW1THu1/j/3l/LNtpr2vQjjQamVPQ h5gSK1lmdGS4pvnmgHYgm4i9jRVTMNNXiEpxg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:22:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0lSMjLfJu6K65asysRwa8sseAec Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305496bba9a332049a4707fd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:22:51 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305496bba9a332049a4707fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I havent read the whole thread here, but just as a small point.. I have pu= t 2 GK pickups on my guitar, one was internal, and I used one of those "stick on" GKs in addition... (bought cheap from a bargain bin) but its a bit easier than some difficult routing problems... maybe its not a relevant fix... (OK I put mine upside down, for extra weirdness..) Mark On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dustbunnies wrote: > On 1/20/11 4:01 PM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > > > > Can't you simply put =E0 MIDI cable fr.o.m. The VG into the utger devic= e? > > Won't work, in most cases. The VG, of course, requires an actual audio > signal to process via its COSM algorithm, so it's obvious why that's a > non-starter through MIDI. However, most (all?) other guitar synths will > also require a guitar-type controller to trigger the synth engine; they > cannot be played via normal MIDI note input. So the architecture needs t= o > be a "split and run in parallel" setup, rather than a "chain one device > after another" effect run. > > Now if the question were concerning the VG in tandem with a generic MIDI > synth module, your solution would work just fine. I've done the same wit= h > my VG-99 in conjunction with a JV-1080. Unfortunately in this case, both > devices need to be driven from a GK-style pickup controller. > > Unless I overlooked something in the original problem description. > Kevin...? > > (P.S. There's another footswitch besides the GKP-4 or US-20 that will all= ow > you to take two GK inputs and route them to three different devices. It'= s > a > custom job from a different company out of, I think, Germany. It's > expensive, but not so much more than having to pay $200 for a US-20. At > least you feel like you're getting something besides ripped off for that > one.) > > --m. > > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305496bba9a332049a4707fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=A0 havent read the whole thread here, but just as a small point.. I have = put 2 GK pickups on my guitar, one was internal, and I used one of those &q= uot;stick on"=A0 GKs in addition... (bought cheap from a bargain bin)= =A0=A0 but its a bit easier than some difficult routing problems... maybe i= ts not a relevant fix... (OK I put mine upside down, for extra weirdness..)=


Mark







On T= hu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dustbunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
On 1/20/11 4:01 PM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can't you simply put =E0 MIDI cable fr.o.m. The VG into the utger = device?

Won't work, in most cases. =A0The VG, of course, requires an actu= al audio
signal to process via its COSM algorithm, so it's obvious why that'= s a
non-starter through MIDI. =A0However, most (all?) other guitar synths will<= br> also require a guitar-type controller to trigger the synth engine; they
cannot be played via normal MIDI note input. =A0So the architecture needs t= o
be a "split and run in parallel" setup, rather than a "chain= one device
after another" effect run.

Now if the question were concerning the VG in tandem with a generic MIDI synth module, your solution would work just fine. =A0I've done the same= with
my VG-99 in conjunction with a JV-1080. =A0Unfortunately in this case, both=
devices need to be driven from a GK-style pickup controller.

Unless I overlooked something in the original problem description.
Kevin...?

(P.S. There's another footswitch besides the GKP-4 or US-20 that will a= llow
you to take two GK inputs and route them to three different devices. =A0It&= #39;s a
custom job from a different company out of, I think, Germany. =A0It's expensive, but not so much more than having to pay $200 for a US-20. =A0At<= br> least you feel like you're getting something besides ripped off for tha= t
one.)

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m.





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mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf305496bba9a332049a4707fd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 13:37:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEEC4183459; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:37:13 +0900 Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? Thread-Index: Acu4pyUAQ9/pHCllQlu+Q3m0ckm0kA== In-Reply-To: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:37:17 +0000 (UTC) On 1/20/11 3:02 AM, "Rainer Straschill" wrote: > > via gearjunkies.com: > http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/ Oh jeez. BT finally finished this! He's been Twittering about it for almost two years now, but would never reveal the company he was working with to put it out, or even how close it was to release. Cool! Another way to get a taste of this -- if you've an iPhone or any other iGadget -- is to spend $2 on BT's "Sonifi" app. That allows you to do realtime remixes of BT's tracks, adding stutter and filter effects by shaking, tapping, and turning your iPhone in different directions. It's not much good for use on your own material, since you can't load your own tracks into it. But Gods, is it ever a lot of fun to play with!!!! --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 13:41:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C835018345D; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=BhYLBi2zB2rk97b3H0AO2rYqDNg9t3Rgoj9lvA2u+pK+5SXvxzLLkEEFWDeRvVwi; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4D38146C.9070908@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFFC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.ne t> <4D38146C.9070908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:39:50 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7989269b3c47f549a15532b2c779b78c44350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Andy B, The "Start/Stop" is an separate MIDI command and many (if not most?) devices spew MIDI clock continuously. When I connect my Electro Harmonix 2880 to my Korg Electribe and start the 2880 from it's front panel (rather than by pressing "start" on the Electribe) the looper is constantly synched to the MIDI tempo and the loops will speed up and slow down if I change the drum machine's tempo, even if it is "stopped" >Is it not possible that a drum machine can be set to not start until >it starts receiving midi-clock? > >Andy Owens wrote: >>Not pushing for it, but I have to agree with Louie that the ability on >>the lp1 to start the drumb machine with a command also starting record, >>and to stop the drumb machine with a record stop command is so, so nice. -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 13:42:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A784C183459; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:42:27 +0900 Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? Thread-Index: Acu4p+Ao6lQsQ6KASeW58A/YV7WO2g== In-Reply-To: <4D374847.1010108@gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:42:32 +0000 (UTC) On 1/20/11 5:23 AM, "Micha=B3 Wiernowolski" wrote: > > Anything like that _but_ in a standalone hardware (stompbox) ? Closest thing in a stompbox, I think, is The Squarewave Parade's Teaspoon. http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon.html Also, the Teaspoon CAS ( http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonCAS.htm= l ) and Teaspoon Slight ( http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonSLIGHT.html ). It's not nearly as full-featured as Izotope/BT's software, but it will let you do some nice stuttery mangling of the input audio. Getting this sort of functionality in hardware is one reason why I was originally interested in the Line 6 Developer Kit -- which allows you to custom develop stompbox modules. Was planning on trying to put together something like this. Unfortunately, never heard anything else about that product after its initial announcement. Mebbe I should really look at that again... Hrmmm. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 13:49:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80122183466; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:49:24 +0900 Subject: Re: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) Thread-Index: Acu4qNi1wIFKbTANRlafReQT8PGBzA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:49:30 +0000 (UTC) On 1/20/11 4:14 PM, "Os" wrote: > > I'm still lurking on this list in case anyone has any Augustus Loop > questions/feature requests. Well, it's not AL-related, but howzabout implementing custom scripting on Crossfade Loop Synth. <*evil grin*> I need to get back to using that one; it's actually really cool! :) --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 13:52:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E46D183480; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=72nggEm7ENQNnHHXUv8IAazwLg0S9JSXnYiO5OXtVrs=; b=Q6OTDwPLLGS3I0sG3bnA+DCcozBzayMAzrAp4tTXjnwGA2CD3DG/sIOJE03BtZeF1i 0xPL+jIOAn+QT7lrCREpnSVXmeyoWeRQptgUIj4vDz8/AlRw2640QA2MIINvS3T2zoit mXOmEPTT53FHLQyBr0SqK4fWWUF5NF0pzKd5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=VICQa8sLeddT7ELWyGPuhVqrtBk9IweXxYhpOnenFRR7gd/q3dD8ZfkoLPqpeiHMLy QXvc8BxWLU7uRlPb8s2qMgc5K9e8Wu1+R+FA5NT/b50tjqg3JBhT2nxB1SQEzdVAR5fb EQwtg5pSVRuK6IlFg7zJV4XWLO0oq8L6gjSxI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:52:38 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -FbDexeHqkvLYPgU_zsiLY0xZIk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Crossfade Loop Synth already supports scripting - has since v3.1. cheers, os. On 20 January 2011 13:49, Dustbunnies wrote: > On 1/20/11 4:14 PM, "Os" wrote: >> >> I'm still lurking on this list in case anyone has any Augustus Loop >> questions/feature requests. > > Well, it's not AL-related, but howzabout implementing custom scripting on > Crossfade Loop Synth. =A0<*evil grin*> > > I need to get back to using that one; it's actually really cool! =A0:) > > =A0 =A0--m. > > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 13:53:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75FA218348A; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:53:35 +0900 Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth Thread-Index: Acu4qW5RJoolH9vyRLSVCoZ56ptaow== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3378408818_9762499" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:53:40 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3378408818_9762499 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 1/20/11 10:22 PM, "mark francombe" wrote: >=20 >> > I=A0havent read the whole thread here, but just as a small point. I have= put >> 2 GK pickups on my guitar, one was internal, and I >> > used one of those "stick on"=A0 GKs in addition... (bought cheap from a >> bargain bin)=A0=A0 but its a bit easier than some difficult >> > routing problems... maybe its not a relevant fix... (OK I put mine ups= ide >> down, for extra weirdness..) ROTF LMAO. That=B9s brilliant, Mark. I should try that sometime. Thanks for the idea! --m. --B_3378408818_9762499 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth On 1/20/11 10= :22 PM, "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
>
> I=A0havent read the whole thread here, but just as a = small point. I have put 2 GK pickups on my guitar, one was internal, and I <= BR> > used one of those "stick on"=A0 GKs in addition... (bought che= ap from a bargain bin)=A0=A0 but its a bit easier than some difficult
> routing problems... maybe its not a relevant fix... (OK I put mine ups= ide down, for extra weirdness..)

ROTF LMAO.  That’s brilliant, Mark.  

I should try that sometime.  Thanks for the idea!

    --m. --B_3378408818_9762499-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 13:56:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4D7C183492; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:56:03 +0900 Subject: Re: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) Thread-Index: Acu4qcaIhHgRSmOQSfGF7zrzFTjU5Q== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:56:06 +0000 (UTC) On 1/20/11 10:52 PM, "Os" wrote: > > Crossfade Loop Synth already supports scripting - has since v3.1. Well shut mah mouth! I really need to go update, it seems! ;) Thanks Os!!! --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 14:03:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D452183490; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 560044823/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.136/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.136 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgQCAKDPN01V0rOI/2dsb2JhbAAMlirNLIVQBI42 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,351,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="560044823" Message-ID: <4D384095.7000004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:03:01 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFFC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.ne t> <4D38146C.9070908@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Charles, Many thanks for the 2880 info. ..but we're talking about using the looper as the master here. I don't know if the LP2 continues to send clock after it's stopped, but it certainly can't send worthwhile clock *before* the length is defined by tapping ;-) andy b Charles Zwicky wrote: > Andy B, > > The "Start/Stop" is an separate MIDI command and many (if not most?) > devices spew MIDI clock continuously. When I connect my Electro > Harmonix 2880 to my Korg Electribe and start the 2880 from it's front > panel (rather than by pressing "start" on the Electribe) the looper is > constantly synched to the MIDI tempo and the loops will speed up and > slow down if I change the drum machine's tempo, even if it is "stopped" > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 14:14:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CAB7183454; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=n2GfhPyZgXwusSs1eAM82UWAAyqcjqWkB40hqC11dG6e7C4OBsdlsQ4r20QUUSkU; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4D384095.7000004@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFFC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.ne t> <4D38146C.9070908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D384095.7000004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:14:34 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec791ceae6092d0168b0cc743feb3eda374a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Shouldn't matter either way if it adheres to the MIDI spec... >Charles, >Many thanks for the 2880 info. >..but we're talking about using the looper as the master here. > >I don't know if the LP2 continues to send clock after it's stopped, >but it certainly can't send worthwhile clock *before* the length >is defined by tapping ;-) > > >andy b > >Charles Zwicky wrote: >>Andy B, >> >>The "Start/Stop" is an separate MIDI command and many (if not >>most?) devices spew MIDI clock continuously. When I connect my >>Electro Harmonix 2880 to my Korg Electribe and start the 2880 from >>it's front panel (rather than by pressing "start" on the Electribe) >>the looper is constantly synched to the MIDI tempo and the loops >>will speed up and slow down if I change the drum machine's tempo, >>even if it is "stopped" >> >> >>Andy B wrote: >>Is it not possible that a drum machine can be set to not start >>until it starts receiving midi-clock? >> >>Andy Owens wrote: >>>Not pushing for it, but I have to agree with Louie that the ability on >>>the lp1 to start the drumb machine with a command also starting record, >>>and to stop the drumb machine with a record stop command is so, so nice. -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 14:17:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26AE918347A; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=AmVC47eGnxlvEOTQwsm6+rGQroibBoCvvBd6j7X9dbM=; b=IRgJ9PlKcJ7Wh5znyuKH/zY7I1ibdtwxsRxIG1cY9vdYCQKZyNZicmGVaTxaHuUHFd o5ZXMptLTdUXbWeBqVE4V4heqzijx5tycckqLlT28ykMdXF2UcbZ/5AJ7EWn3S6t8nyM bGjbPfG6oPvrTWGsw2S3y8M7roUXbKjudUq0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=tUhs02b2wzVRQVA1ur0e/xUPHbo/6CIZuf+ivgGrc/e+WDGn78GcmbCP1tS0RI2TEi eecOiT/qeJa7PVw/gRg9yVGkDr7hk1IOi4mMFztKAqH/FO7JqJcxQBuPIhvE1ohKZOnU nK33Em1tqAYoN8ZjM9gaaPy1QOuKzOa3CXxBU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D374847.1010108@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:16:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: UohgQJdJ_oMZc2wijqvgrpyaKqc Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e860a8cb1a1049a47c995 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:17:02 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e860a8cb1a1049a47c995 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aggh!! Dont mention the teaspoon on this list. I have an Ebay search going on this.. dont want competition... M 2011/1/20 Dustbunnies > On 1/20/11 5:23 AM, "Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski" wrote: > > > > Anything like that _but_ in a standalone hardware (stompbox) ? > > Closest thing in a stompbox, I think, is The Squarewave Parade's Teaspoon= . > > http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon.html > > Also, the Teaspoon CAS ( > http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonCAS.html > ) and Teaspoon Slight ( > http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonSLIGHT.html ). > > It's not nearly as full-featured as Izotope/BT's software, but it will le= t > you do some nice stuttery mangling of the input audio. > > Getting this sort of functionality in hardware is one reason why I was > originally interested in the Line 6 Developer Kit -- which allows you to > custom develop stompbox modules. Was planning on trying to put together > something like this. Unfortunately, never heard anything else about that > product after its initial announcement. Mebbe I should really look at th= at > again... Hrmmm. > > --m. > > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e860a8cb1a1049a47c995 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aggh!! Dont mention the teaspoon on this list. I have an Ebay search going = on this.. dont want competition...


M

2011/1/20 Dustbunnies <mech@m3ch.net>
On 1/20/11 5:23 A= M, "Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski" <mihalw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Anything like that _but_ in a standalone hardware (stompbox) ?

Closest thing in a stompbox, I think, is The Squarewave Parade's Teaspo= on.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon= .html

Also, the Teaspoon CAS ( http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon= CAS.html
) and Teaspoon Slight (
http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonSLIGHT.html ).
It's not nearly as full-featured as Izotope/BT's software, but it w= ill let
you do some nice stuttery mangling of the input audio.

Getting this sort of functionality in hardware is one reason why I was
originally interested in the Line 6 Developer Kit -- which allows you to custom develop stompbox modules. =C2=A0Was planning on trying to put togeth= er
something like this. =C2=A0Unfortunately, never heard anything else about t= hat
product after its initial announcement. =C2=A0Mebbe I should really look at= that
again... Hrmmm.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0--m.





--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e860a8cb1a1049a47c995-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 14:53:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C508B183484; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z/udWG75AHX43DptXOx3S6GaxJCzI+hCC7uCOEJQm/8=; b=v1cVTn0/MNK52MN7XG0Cw5XtN6+rEYTSs1SEHDltTQ6C/6M4crk/dC1nI1behjxagy KN3iej4kDLjjSabj8BWr+/WASUQCm2y6Ws6iNGK2F0dJNJHaqwhExIwDXYQ6WJxXGS8i F1JPpukte0Vlc/+iQNCwRbsM2KSxI3B34/8CA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=CR4UIKqdFXGXTvSlFmCDaI+6YozY84J1Q3tm/shBLZqlHLlQ93fdUJnuCarhXteHhQ uR9qcJU1keqQRXAGR12IJCMP62ATmE48Og/jmW48ghosUgrFg5F7O+mQCJlzmqzrc5xM PvtBmuTyIn3qnKr1FMc5U2OS/DxoqRO6oIwkE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D374847.1010108@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:53:38 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd299a68382c9049a484c6f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:53:40 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd299a68382c9049a484c6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 this stutter edit reminds me of the sugar bytes stuff - effectrix and artillery - same sort of idea, although this looks better, imo sim --000e0cd299a68382c9049a484c6f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 this stutter edit reminds me of the sugar bytes stuff - effectrix and artillery - same sort of idea, although this looks better, imo

sim
--000e0cd299a68382c9049a484c6f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 14:55:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4F69183481; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:55:10 +0900 Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? Thread-Index: Acu4sgi1ywS4HtJlQlaRlXsGRxn3xA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3378412511_9976102" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:55:16 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3378412511_9976102 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 1/20/11 11:16 PM, "mark francombe" wrote: > > Aggh!! Dont mention the teaspoon on this list. I have an Ebay search goin= g on this.. dont want competition... Heh! If I ever decide to sell mine, you=B9ll be the first person I talk to. <*duckflee*> ;) --m. --B_3378412511_9976102 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? On 1/20/11 11= :16 PM, "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
>
> Aggh!! Dont mention the teaspoon on this list. I have an Ebay search g= oing on this.. dont want competition...

Heh!  If I ever decide to sell mine, you’ll be the first person = I talk to.  <*duckflee*>  ;)

        --m. --B_3378412511_9976102-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 15:07:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF3CA183493; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 568705616/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.136/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.136 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgQCAJ/eN01V0rOI/2dsb2JhbAAMlirNNoVQBI42 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,351,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="568705616" Message-ID: <4D384FA2.9060008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:07:14 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFFC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.ne t> <4D38146C.9070908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D384095.7000004@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8CymLD.A.qxB.j-EONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:07:16 +0000 (UTC) ok, you definitely lost me now, can you elucidate your point? Charles Zwicky wrote: > Shouldn't matter either way if it adheres to the MIDI spec... > > >> Charles, >> Many thanks for the 2880 info. >> ..but we're talking about using the looper as the master here. >> >> I don't know if the LP2 continues to send clock after it's stopped, >> but it certainly can't send worthwhile clock *before* the length >> is defined by tapping ;-) >> >> >> andy b >> >> Charles Zwicky wrote: >>> Andy B, >>> >>> The "Start/Stop" is an separate MIDI command and many (if not most?) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 15:14:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AE2618347E; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:14:47 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20110120151425.D4C0214DD6@ns4.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2r2ExC.A.4AC.SFFONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:14:26 +0000 (UTC) I have a US-20 and presently drive an Axon AX-50=20 and a WP-20. It works great, lets you run one or=20 the other or both. I paid $250.00 for it but in=20 the long run it's been worth it because it works=20 and it lets me do what I wanted to do. The other=20 device from Germany that I think you're referring=20 to is a SW41 by Klaus Schock (=20 http://www.klausschock.com/Products/products.html=20 ) It's designed to use up to 4 different guitars=20 going out to one 13 pin device. He doesn't make=20 them on a regular basis, I ordered one last year=20 about this time and only just now recieved it,=20 but haven't had time to play with it yet. Oh, and=20 the price of that is 215.00 eur. Recently I've been experimenting with a breakout=20 box and running each string into bidule and=20 processing them individually. Got some=20 interesting results, but boy was that a drain on=20 the cpu! Of course if you have enough stomp boxes=20 you could do the same thing with hardware and=20 then bring each signal into a mixer. I tried to=20 use the US-20 with the breakout box but for some=20 reason the switching doesn't work and you always=20 have the signal from the BOB on but I could turn the synth side on and off. Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca At 07:59 AM 1/20/2011, you wrote: >On 1/20/11 4:01 PM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > > > > Can't you simply put =E0 MIDI cable fr.o.m. The VG into the utger= device? > >Won't work, in most cases. The VG, of course, requires an actual audio >signal to process via its COSM algorithm, so it's obvious why that's a >non-starter through MIDI. However, most (all?) other guitar synths will >also require a guitar-type controller to trigger the synth engine; they >cannot be played via normal MIDI note input. So the architecture needs to >be a "split and run in parallel" setup, rather than a "chain one device >after another" effect run. > >Now if the question were concerning the VG in tandem with a generic MIDI >synth module, your solution would work just fine. I've done the same with >my VG-99 in conjunction with a JV-1080. Unfortunately in this case, both >devices need to be driven from a GK-style pickup controller. > >Unless I overlooked something in the original problem description. >Kevin...? > >(P.S. There's another footswitch besides the GKP-4 or US-20 that will allow >you to take two GK inputs and route them to three different devices. It's= a >custom job from a different company out of, I think, Germany. It's >expensive, but not so much more than having to pay $200 for a US-20. At >least you feel like you're getting something besides ripped off for that >one.) > > --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 15:22:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CA90183481; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mYzm6kBtAkxysILftVdyu+LSwE/bHOsjFLXbE1I0/jzOJnh9qX/DThe62NPDQJzp; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4D384FA2.9060008@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F0799DFFC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.ne t> <4D38146C.9070908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D384095.7000004@tiscali.co.uk> <4D384FA2.9060008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:22:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79e6436f3507e881d6819dd2a0c002d0f9350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Sure. MIDI Clock is (typically) sent whether the master is running or not. The MIDI spec requires that "Start" "Continue" and "Stop" commands be used to control subsequent devices. The solution that you seek would be to send a MIDI "Start" command on the downbeat immediately following the loop end point defined by the "second tap" while the looper is in the initial record phase. >ok, you definitely lost me now, > >can you elucidate your point? > >Charles Zwicky wrote: >>Shouldn't matter either way if it adheres to the MIDI spec... >> >>>Charles, >>>Many thanks for the 2880 info. >>>..but we're talking about using the looper as the master here. >>> >>>I don't know if the LP2 continues to send clock after it's stopped, >>>but it certainly can't send worthwhile clock *before* the length >>>is defined by tapping ;-) >>> >>> >>>andy b >>> >>>Charles Zwicky wrote: >>>>Andy B, >>>> >>>>The "Start/Stop" is an separate MIDI command and many (if not most?) -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 15:31:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 094DB183485; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s/hRRjiZ1ZxwFCXBVut0W7+BrOe3e9QHkyjtmi2AvPA=; b=IJSXfmhnWGZN+Mz9nxYhUSYSBf2ArCBeWqNnnXR1z4CtlVDB1vl8wlsijKZHlXfa6o 4Xr/J/0Yi19P5Ll5TJEOXK2ehFP5Sa13r/SxatN9sVoEDW4tBRa51amqaDubcvhv9oHa QNnByT6FX8IAADhQ+/hnQg4H72s03EzCrzirg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pB0JhN/GkIX1rxnrsvnKfX6sU3LkvtVwIaYBZ2ruLdkJViu89XwKqbEPNCB2AgS+F+ 55Md11SQmTyO6cHX8aXnqNc9teLvUX9vLkTMqML0+y7cgJ2ZLGzA0lgn3jo1eVN9HXdD kN2DzPK3nrpNVkNJ+WeLUxBGJkWwPJBzrZk8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D384FA2.9060008@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D357E12.90403@cruzio.com> <4D36FE8A.2000001@tiscali.co.uk> <4D38146C.9070908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D384095.7000004@tiscali.co.uk> <4D384FA2.9060008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:31:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 at namm Louie's start/stop From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8a8e90a42d049a48d4c7 Resent-Message-ID: <1HWsz.A.QfC.eVFONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:31:42 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8a8e90a42d049a48d4c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The 2880 also works as a master, in fact as a master you can still use the octave ability which you can't as a slave. The 2880 has much more midi ability according to the manual, never tried it myself. The last chapters here explain. http://www.ehx.com/assets/instructions/2880.pdf best, J On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:07 AM, andy butler wrote: > ok, you definitely lost me now, > > can you elucidate your point? > > Charles Zwicky wrote: > >> Shouldn't matter either way if it adheres to the MIDI spec... >> >> >> Charles, >>> Many thanks for the 2880 info. >>> ..but we're talking about using the looper as the master here. >>> >>> I don't know if the LP2 continues to send clock after it's stopped, >>> but it certainly can't send worthwhile clock *before* the length >>> is defined by tapping ;-) >>> >>> >>> andy b >>> >>> Charles Zwicky wrote: >>> >>>> Andy B, >>>> >>>> The "Start/Stop" is an separate MIDI command and many (if not most?) >>>> >>> --90e6ba6e8a8e90a42d049a48d4c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 2880 also works as a master, in fact as a master you can still use the = octave ability which you can't as a slave. The 2880 has much more midi = ability according to the manual, never tried it myself. The last chapters h= ere explain. ht= tp://www.ehx.com/assets/instructions/2880.pdf

best,

J

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 a= t 10:07 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
ok, you definitely lost me now,

can you elucidate your point?

Charles Zwicky wrote:
Shouldn't matter either way if it adheres to the MIDI spec...


Charles,
Many thanks for the 2880 info.
..but we're talking about using the looper as the master here.

I don't know if the LP2 continues to send clock after it's stopped,=
but it certainly can't send worthwhile clock *before* the length
is defined by tapping ;-)


andy b

Charles Zwicky wrote:
Andy B,

The "Start/Stop" is an separate MIDI command and many (if not mos= t?)

--90e6ba6e8a8e90a42d049a48d4c7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 15:38:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69D71183485; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ahxv2hMRyM3p31GXzPaA204kE/e3oH2WkoQ+h4wQQRM=; b=j03HodYJroW0Vsb8Y3nodb36zGGZdrw8wIwbAOTP78co7IZFsYKowJr+YK2VWcAhv9 T+C4hiwbVALsJsx2d8VbPkxEQQ6/L1tjazsCbBxTq6JF9ENXWhNAOz+Moz6gSe14+a67 AZYMUwURPzzd3JmLQ/uQKsnu0Y0GvmkxuBgtI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hA+7RJZpFigxPRPhSi/nzq5KJ91O4VpMMWyfw0dA3OBKqgc6bCX9TN79MyxmgwLaQO iKfQ3YVB4sFcs9H8vfGnhA0717DX/SXh8y7JPNf5Xna3gwHBRhZkuu4kPiAvVm7spD8w BDpyasuEPEQtjAjKL1FMQ+gwWeAGvJira37Bo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:38:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Still a happy user of Augustus, Little Spacey and CFLS here. Must say it they really rock for what I do. Os: plans for new delay plugins btw? -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 15:47:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12925183496; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XWCDgtEYhaR64/52GwdW0t11dmMKGPPh/6zAG9Di0Rw=; b=Y9IKvxAgrbFQQmZMyKV14mG7yOWvhaeB9ggu9sUbh7ahB6WDNsf7id281ImB/Gkiix W21gjyq9UDKtdmdLqD4d3B3YFrkWSDmqoSR52lhZSoNtqogKrjz8DifiqEGoGcU2gf/q /eI1hkFSXzXBWo7ssf9Rr/3vHWXJX6HTprPMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iCXz5mTyu+qISMWwuxDZjriEeJyw+SfAuKyNYoB8cwzTDk5jeE1Vdm2pO/n9qtlri7 t4LGsxGMUf3fi4ui5gce4ZstxHDZLjm/js7r/1wbqrgYa1DLBd1ljinED+oNTCnuwiQD AtAKThtfBcy/DZttECjq0MIVDvEPQm0DjOZT8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:47:38 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VQzzH4bL-SabSbyeyY3FQ-zEQ1Q Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:47:39 +0000 (UTC) > Os: plans for new delay plugins btw? no, but planning a hardware delay! os. On 20 January 2011 15:38, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Still a happy user of Augustus, Little Spacey and CFLS here. Must say > it they really rock for what I do. > > Os: plans for new delay plugins btw? > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 16:04:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C24F818349C; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jZEiBNYFuZES+jZ2x/6FDYO73YeTW1N3VamxqK+1+qw=; b=Ni2K5PZ8l9bzdFanUzhE/BfIlFfL49oNKouErUK3clVhmoJIBjKy53SI2L7W4afT3D igZViaGC6EwqDIM6jgwR+6NISFO47nN6Nx+8SWK+mWdapYSCE2xb9PklTz1XsRMxWpdD PTtyr7NXe1whjv3TQFKJ26gE7K8GXN2mlhVfk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=t297DsBu2A4o6VkdmHhT3Q/jRHqatSj767Ng5b/VzuMW9oY0JhMq+t1dA++mpEMncG GnZw02QOtLdA2tkJyGsr4pfrOk/0gG1bdeERjGbN13UHINWeJnugjA8pyM0Gj0/FGCQd SvfpcUSHDr+zKkogx30+PWK797Rn+qJBMhsi8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:04:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop (was mainstage CPU,how good is it for live looping?) From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:04:56 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Os wrote: >> Os: plans for new delay plugins btw? > > no, but planning a hardware delay! Great! An analog bucket brigade delay? ** hint ** ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 16:53:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 739E2183483; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 560139059/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.136/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.136 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhACALP3N01V0rOI/2dsb2JhbAAMlirAXox8hVAEjjY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,352,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="560139059" Message-ID: <4D3868A0.2070305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:53:52 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Fun cheap glitchy 1.5s delay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Danelectro Reel Echo DTE1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU8NPnp8gzU&feature=related From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 21:41:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4665183459; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D38AC1C.5030604@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:41:48 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dustbunnies CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:41:57 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: > Closest thing in a stompbox, I think, is The Squarewave Parade's Teaspoon. > > http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon.html > > Also, the Teaspoon CAS (http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonCAS.html > ) and Teaspoon Slight ( > http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonSLIGHT.html ). They don't seem to be available any more but pretty cool for a stomp box. There's also my own Walker Manual Glitch Pedal but it is a manual stutterer and fairly primitive by contrast (although it has many other really hip features) and I'm a fair aways from production on it (if it ever gets that far). rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 22:36:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5FD518345D; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bRa31Ut26qqwCncRZywQNLwihkX9bFpzPKqrO0jAEj4=; b=LeqTC24LZR2NWtDcDsgUykaDDDH8b56JMLMs6StyLHOAg3nlNd3CSILv3V40wFJ54E lAcizwaKlE+XUe5JeBwZXdojsBBU77u4OggdLP9cpV7k25hRAZOu87eDvo/3NPz+PKLU K2o2fIhpvIyaokfNg4XsZ8I0h5/t5p6sgL0bk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GyZux55GLJvx7m0S1pKJOuwyC047Abs9Blx2AextwSP7FvvqvLSjsrq6Yhut7e6ZFm owA+tT8kudcNR1uSE+0lRvB4mP4z5vWqgAT4kKF9MNy1W5xthlUGVU7q7gYTkw4RB/81 rikyT6IJtrXdCH1X3H+i5XN8Ojz9DYJW21AzM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:36:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: M9/M13/HD500 From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016360e3d3067ea4e049a4ec34c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:36:24 +0000 (UTC) --0016360e3d3067ea4e049a4ec34c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is the looper in all these line6 units the same? ra=FCl. --0016360e3d3067ea4e049a4ec34c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is the looper in all these line6 units the same?

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--0016360e3d3067ea4e049a4ec34c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 22:42:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1F6218345D; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:42:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=response X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-20_08:2011-01-20,2011-01-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101200135 Message-id: <7BB378A8E34F444583ACE80F6060A888@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D38AC1C.5030604@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:42:36 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: <0jARQ.A.UyF.ipLONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:42:42 +0000 (UTC) I've developed an auto glitch pedal, it uses two separate timing cycles to make semi-chaotic slicing and has an extra button to manually add to the chaos. I just started selling them. It's a different animal from the Walker pedal and anything else out there really. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230568227767 toby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "Dustbunnies" Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: >> Closest thing in a stompbox, I think, is The Squarewave Parade's >> Teaspoon. >> >> http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon.html >> >> Also, the Teaspoon CAS >> (http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonCAS.html >> ) and Teaspoon Slight ( >> http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonSLIGHT.html ). > They don't seem to be available any more but pretty cool for a stomp box. > > There's also my own Walker Manual Glitch Pedal but it is a manual > stutterer > and fairly primitive by contrast (although it has many other really hip > features) > and I'm a fair aways from production on it (if it ever gets that far). > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 22:48:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6352218345D; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=oZHeLuxJzjDh3Syckm9A7iSKnPu3+UFdr5qEdtxTT8U=; b=lvuyN2+MhuBmwGmF3BIJrljC34Ql+FossYXpDoaH8jUKspAhWCJo0sskoEIy6jJ36t 8s0XMo/EtnqALtcg60bC3xejwVpasUl4kqXfvjJiUxU1UIIFaVzbpyfDPNEOLvyTnYKq JKxNmwfy5Aguderm5bL+6VYS8b3o644XmIvdI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=MwAqt8FIxuf4Y0Cd5LnjgzzKYSzKTuk3jzP/LxFr9jPirfrVGTbD0LeAiiGWsAfEoC zRrZNeI0GZhpfz+6Kdw6MovdB1GvDMc8gwc+/dFJm7ry2hjLfN0hKwj+p9XC8xoWLInz Fr7UzSFvPE6fZUfjv425q/rh+PUUaDew8zTvQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7BB378A8E34F444583ACE80F6060A888@NORBY11> References: <4D38AC1C.5030604@cruzio.com> <7BB378A8E34F444583ACE80F6060A888@NORBY11> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:48:10 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Wjd0YFHerkl7QawD7OLKrlZS9nk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e864eb99c25049a4eee1b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:48:31 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e864eb99c25049a4eee1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very cool Tony... only shipping to US..!!!! Oh well you lost a sale right there! Mark On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Toby G wrote: > I've developed an auto glitch pedal, it uses two separate timing cycles to > make semi-chaotic slicing and has an extra button to manually add to the > chaos. I just started selling them. It's a different animal from the > Walker pedal and anything else out there really. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230568227767 > > > toby > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" > To: "Dustbunnies" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:41 PM > Subject: Re: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: >> >>> Closest thing in a stompbox, I think, is The Squarewave Parade's >>> Teaspoon. >>> >>> http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon.html >>> >>> Also, the Teaspoon CAS ( >>> http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonCAS.html >>> ) and Teaspoon Slight ( >>> http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonSLIGHT.html ). >>> >> They don't seem to be available any more but pretty cool for a stomp box. >> >> There's also my own Walker Manual Glitch Pedal but it is a manual >> stutterer >> and fairly primitive by contrast (although it has many other really hip >> features) >> and I'm a fair aways from production on it (if it ever gets that far). >> >> rick walker >> >> >> > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e864eb99c25049a4eee1b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool Tony... only shipping to US..!!!! Oh well you lost a sale right t= here!

Mark

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at= 11:42 PM, Toby G <= carpet8@mac.com> wrote:
I've develope= d an auto glitch pedal, it uses two separate timing cycles to make semi-cha= otic slicing and has an extra button to manually add to the chaos. =A0I jus= t started selling them. =A0It's a different animal from the Walker peda= l and anything else out there really.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&= item=3D230568227767


toby


----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> To: "Dustbunnies" <mech@m3ch.net>
Cc: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this?


On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote:
Closest thing in a stompbox, I think, is The Squarewave Parade's Teaspo= on.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon.html
Also, the Teaspoon CAS (http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonC= AS.html
) and Teaspoon Slight (
http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonSLIGHT.html =A0)= .
They don't seem to be available any more but pretty cool for a stomp bo= x.

There's also my own Walker Manual Glitch Pedal but it is a manual stutt= erer
and fairly primitive by contrast (although it has many other really hip fea= tures)
and I'm a fair aways from production on it (if it ever gets that far).<= br>
rick walker






--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e864eb99c25049a4eee1b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 20 22:51:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0228183459; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20110120153045.a4gnytork0sog8go@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:30:45 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? References: <4D38AC1C.5030604@cruzio.com> <7BB378A8E34F444583ACE80F6060A888@NORBY11> In-Reply-To: <7BB378A8E34F444583ACE80F6060A888@NORBY11> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:51:02 +0000 (UTC) cool! excellent job! congrats.. :) -cpr Quoting Toby G : > I've developed an auto glitch pedal, it uses two separate timing cycles > to make semi-chaotic slicing and has an extra button to manually add to > the chaos. I just started selling them. It's a different animal from > the Walker pedal and anything else out there really. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D230568227767 > > > toby > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" > To: "Dustbunnies" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:41 PM > Subject: Re: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? > > >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: >>> Closest thing in a stompbox, I think, is The Squarewave Parade's Teaspoo= n. >>> >>> http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon.html >>> >>> Also, the Teaspoon CAS (http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonCAS.h= tml >>> ) and Teaspoon Slight ( >>> http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoonSLIGHT.html ). >> They don't seem to be available any more but pretty cool for a stomp box. >> >> There's also my own Walker Manual Glitch Pedal but it is a manual stutter= er >> and fairly primitive by contrast (although it has many other really =20 >> hip features) >> and I'm a fair aways from production on it (if it ever gets that far). >> >> rick walker >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 01:36:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CE2D18345A; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D38E312.9070605@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:36:18 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:36:23 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on the Finnish band Nemesis. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Gigaherz" by Nemesis. on Origo Sound. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jan Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 02:14:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DB31183451; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:14:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D38EC0D.6050403@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:14:37 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toby G CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? References: <7BB378A8E34F444583ACE80F6060A888@NORBY11> In-Reply-To: <7BB378A8E34F444583ACE80F6060A888@NORBY11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1yxe2D.A.vID.TwOONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:14:43 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Toby G wrote: > I've developed an auto glitch pedal, it uses two separate timing > cycles to make semi-chaotic slicing and has an extra button to > manually add to the chaos. I just started selling them. It's a > different animal from the Walker pedal and anything else out there > really. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230568227767 > > > toby Very hip, Toby! I'll start to save my pennies to get one. There is also the Gig FX, who I have an endorsement with. Their Chopper puts together to changeable wave form tremelos t also create glitchy chopping effects. The Alesis AMPLITON also does this by using a Stereo Panner (which becomes a square wave tremelo if you don't hook it up in stereo that runs through a multi wave tremelo. I love Glitching!!!!!!!!!!! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 02:32:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41B3518345B; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=response X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-20_09:2011-01-21,2011-01-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101200167 Message-id: <5721BD436EC04E72B29F698349225E8A@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <7BB378A8E34F444583ACE80F6060A888@NORBY11> <4D38EC0D.6050403@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Re: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:32:21 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Cool...I'll check those out! toby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "Toby G" Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Toby G wrote: >> I've developed an auto glitch pedal, it uses two separate timing cycles >> to make semi-chaotic slicing and has an extra button to manually add to >> the chaos. I just started selling them. It's a different animal from >> the Walker pedal and anything else out there really. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230568227767 >> >> >> toby > Very hip, Toby! I'll start to save my pennies to get one. > > There is also the Gig FX, who I have an endorsement with. > Their Chopper puts together to changeable wave form tremelos t > also create glitchy chopping effects. > > The Alesis AMPLITON also does this by using a Stereo Panner (which becomes > a square wave tremelo if you don't hook it up in stereo that runs through > a multi wave tremelo. > > I love Glitching!!!!!!!!!!! > > rick walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 02:35:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCA2218345D; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <357BA0B3-8F11-4ED4-8E19-C5143FA08B34@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: M9/M13/HD500 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:35:33 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:35:39 +0000 (UTC) HD500 is 48 seconds at normal speed the other two are 28 seconds at normal speed, half speed doubles the length of course. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 13:32:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6152918345D; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D398AF7.2010007@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:32:39 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #720 for January 20, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:32:45 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110120.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #720 January 20, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Nemesis. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Gigaherz" on Origo Sound. Nemesis: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jan PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) [VA] Stphan Whitlan] Out of the Box E-Live 2009 (Groove) Tom DePlonty Zen Baby Corridor (Auraltone) Gert Emmens Collision Metamorphosis (Groove) Ambient Fabric Starship In Space (Auraltone) Nemesis Kopernikus Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Gigaherz Gigaherz (Origo Sound) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Nemesis Karyon Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Vertical Horizon Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Nautilus Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Return To the Well Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis The First Sea Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Origin of Species Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Terra Firma Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Koobi Fora Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Meander Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Out of the Cradle Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Final Frontier Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Coldfront Gigaherz (Origo Sound) Nemesis Last Footprints Gigaherz (Origo Sound) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Nemesis. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Sky Archeology" which is a self-released title. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 15:44:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EDE318345D; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lq90EmNNipCv5Rp6Ev4tMZJYPwcamasrBh8V0RZSFPU=; b=WSAHclRWPCDveDynSMqcEKC32mYtRKxh82hlqNrkC5SiroIaA53/ujWHobIhUzzY7r IOEGPWjzhPUL1ksoXDXjWmq2s/sPUCBCK+YB/vxHWClgb4VGQyM66WyMyDW24tX97kZ/ Sg803Zri+Nynm57X94GwGYcwvAkFUevcFVn7k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kciILKCffxWyKI/Wlm14ejDRJJORTZht5gFjR0HXMituiACgW7jKF5waaGiGZyXp21 dGicOhwQjS2txLbuKJ+r0gm3Jrup0GY2oVg1F9oWAapVyLZ3VHynYPI8ganFQ6epWi3V fLZv3GBo+p8aNkfQ3rfIWlF3SwWoqjQvAFf8g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <357BA0B3-8F11-4ED4-8E19-C5143FA08B34@baymoon.com> References: <357BA0B3-8F11-4ED4-8E19-C5143FA08B34@baymoon.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:44:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: M9/M13/HD500 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:44:38 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:35 AM, William Walker wrote: > HD500 is 48 seconds at normal speed the other two are 28 seconds at normal > speed, half speed doubles the length of course. Is the HD500 mono or stereo? -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 19:54:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3669118345D; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=f0Vnk0kTZKXCAt2FXNF2cQhF4omlrD9N7hRAQqSsDuM=; b=S281tuHX5CYuDcIUIly2o5EJZIxrdojrpnfbx84DSvGlDQdP1klcAVfVc3aUglOxhH kP2KRCLCONH2TIRi8z+AbezZs00J/Fl+qByJgw/xKmJ7Yt84MZVFBWS51sNuWXETKgbl EOjpjYJh1QJ2Ud4odjjKeF1yEM4qhGxaVvDgU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cmo0jB6ODfxthBDR1cImDYy9ItxaFoTNs1Ease9L00om+ZmVZRiuqJTv4tyIPoyD2t OHSxbVr8xtssQcFKgmK+oYhQQAy81NxW06T1B0P1YbbJzd0mg5HMukKYO6C1HV4rbvO3 KGzsKwy9zM9sGGjzE2lWiCJEVDBIgSEYGNISQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:54:37 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: danelectro tape echo/strymon timeline/ zoom g3 From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e06cb752a5049a609eab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:54:39 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7e06cb752a5049a609eab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 the dan-echo thing i had looked at a yr ago. it seemed interesting. i love the layout of it. wish it had more time available. wish it sort of mimiced creating a tape loop and manipulate the time more (slow/fast & fast/slow). there was something about it that i didn't end up pulling the trigger on. can't remember what. i watched lots of vids of it. for short 1.5 sec loops it seemed decent. good for your rockabillty stuff of course. i also just saw that zoom released a zoom g3. saw some intro vids of it. looks like a smaller version of line 6 m9, has 3 pedal layout-so simpler, 199$ price, has 40 sec looper. also just saw this, re the strymon timeline (delay/looper): Full featured 30-second, 24-bit stereo Looper, routable pre- or post-delay, with MIDI capability. More information on TimeLine looper functionality coming soon Two independent delay lines can be configured in series or parallel (right/left split). The second delay has independent Mix, Repeat and Time values, and can also be set to track the first delay's knob values. dtape: Full control over Tape Age, Wow & Flutter, Tape Crinkle, Tape Bias, Low End Contour, and Tape Speed Mod Depth: Additional menu-driven parameters deliver extremely flexible tone shaping options and complete tweakability Expression pedal input with selectable control over knob or combination of knobs, saveable per preset Analog dry path for a zero latency dry signal that is never converted to digital Selectable Trails mode with high quality, transparent Analog Buffered Bypass, saveable per preset Trem: The Trem delay machine provides you with a synchronized tremolo with Waveshape, Depth and Speed for cool new sounds. Choose from triangle, square, sin, ramp, and saw to vary the delay amplitude. Reverse: You play frontwards, it repeats backwards. Your playing triggers the delays, producing predictable, repeatable, and extremely useful reverse effects. Add some Smear to soften the attacks - smearing transients while retaining full frequency response. +/- 3dB Boost/Cut, saveable per preset Selectable Tap Subdivision, saveable per preset http://www.musicradar.com/news/guita...nveiled-360934 SO LOTS OF OPTIONS OUT THERE FOR US CONSUMERS, IN THE NEAR FUTURE......happy looping...s--- --0016e6d7e06cb752a5049a609eab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the dan-echo thing i had looked at a yr ago. it seemed interesting. i love = the layout of it. wish it had more time available. wish it sort of mimiced = creating a tape loop and manipulate the time more (slow/fast & fast/slo= w). there was something about it that i didn't end up pulling the trigg= er on. can't remember what. i watched lots of vids of it. for short 1.5= sec loops it seemed decent. good for your rockabillty stuff of course.

i also just saw that zoom released a zoom g3. saw some intro vids of it= .
looks like a smaller version of line 6 m9, has 3 pedal layout-so simpl= er, 199$ price, has 40 sec looper.

also just saw this, re the strymo= n timeline (delay/looper):


Full featured 30-second, 24-bit stereo Looper, routable pre- or=20 post-delay, with MIDI capability. More information on TimeLine looper=20 functionality coming soon

Two independent delay lines can be configured in series or parallel=20 (right/left split). The second delay has independent Mix, Repeat and=20 Time values, and can also be set to track the first delay's knob values= .

dtape: Full control over Tape Age, Wow & Flutter, Tape Crinkle, Tape Bi= as, Low End Contour, and Tape Speed

Mod Depth: Additional menu-driven parameters deliver extremely flexible ton= e shaping options and complete tweakability

Expression pedal input with selectable control over knob or combination of = knobs, saveable per preset

Analog dry path for a zero latency dry signal that is never converted to di= gital

Selectable Trails mode with high quality, transparent Analog Buffered Bypas= s, saveable per preset

Trem: The Trem delay machine provides you with a synchronized tremolo=20 with Waveshape, Depth and Speed for cool new sounds. Choose from=20 triangle, square, sin, ramp, and saw to vary the delay amplitude.

Reverse: You play frontwards, it repeats backwards. Your playing=20 triggers the delays, producing predictable, repeatable, and extremely=20 useful reverse effects. Add some Smear to soften the attacks - smearing=20 transients while retaining full frequency response.

+/- 3dB Boost/Cut, saveable per preset

Selectable Tap Subdivision, saveable per preset

http://www.musicradar.com/= news/guita...nveiled-360934

SO LOTS OF OPTIONS OUT THERE FOR US = CONSUMERS, IN THE NEAR FUTURE......happy looping...s---
--0016e6d7e06cb752a5049a609eab-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 20:07:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E83218345F; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:07:10 UTC X-pair-Authenticated: 209.68.4.44 From: Jason LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Electrix Repeater for sale Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 12:00:29 -0800 Message-Id: To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Hi all... long time lurker here. I think I originally subscribed to LD = in 1997. I forget when exactly but it was shortly after LD was created. = I feel like I know a lot of you even if I haven't posted to the list in = a very long time. It is time for me to sell some gear. I'm not getting out of looping = entirely... just regrouping financially and musically after a long = hiatus.=20 I bought an Electrix Repeater when it first came out. It had the first = OS version with midi sync problems, which I discovered immediately. I = was dependent on syncing to midi, so I put it back in the box and stuck = with my EDPs while I waited for a bug fix. Fast forward to last fall. I = got the Electric Repeater out of storage, opened it for the first time = in almost 10 years, upgraded it to the latest OS (2.4 aka 2.1.04), and = posted it on ebay. The link to the auction is:=20 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D250758944540 It is in great condition. I only had it out of the box briefly in 2001 = and recently when I upgraded it. The only way you'd find a nicer one is = NOS in a warehouse somewhere. The bottom sticker does have a mysterious = mark or scratch - not sure where that came from because I'm very = meticulous about caring for my equipment, especially when it has only = been out of the box for such a short time. I can't find a mark anywhere = else. It has been in an indoor, temperature-controlled storage building = ever since. It has never been gigged and always kept in a smoke-free = environment.=20 If you need to contact me, the best way is probably through ebay. = Mention LD if you do. (Email to this account is filtered and digested on = my end.)=20 Thanks, Jason From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 20:15:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1C75183461; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eD1jPI8kLYG+9svPyfli1AWD0/W1M7PihqdJNclYbQw=; b=V+PIGgUF4CqgDet2k0CRnXj/5t/KvQFQ8tE1CbjdAMJKKbZwJVpqzvWehKs+JgQ/To Xv0gJGPwaP6P5a5jdWpLk12nRB5PZD7HJ+K1COU7n/r06JAxHny028/0pCGrBhwQig1B C21oYZyy56KR/nuYPL6UhUCprH3QJe4EnDDlE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZqaOhyMQ/XNtm2yk+cjvr1xsDiptZ4RajbLqDD5pAv+vNw78u0BMJxV6q7GCNq+vwb J5OGBgL7N2i/xlNwSFocrQpjtaZhR1mc86uJijBIwcq88A58YA4DqUq9/mXCyONDkXwe ZgYtHmTHUbmCqpwGShyAP5XunZf35U3h4S+DQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110120151425.D4C0214DD6@ns4.tnt21.com> References: <20110120151425.D4C0214DD6@ns4.tnt21.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 12:14:55 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Another option I've discovered (someone here pointed me to this a while ago I think) http://billbax.110mb.com/ Anyone have an experience with these (horrible website btw). Kevin On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:14 AM, paul wrote: > I have a US-20 and presently drive an Axon AX-50 and a WP-20. It works > great, lets you run one or the other or both. I paid $250.00 for it but i= n > the long run it's been worth it because it works and it lets me do what I > wanted to do. The other device from Germany that I think you're referring= to > is a SW41 by Klaus Schock ( > http://www.klausschock.com/Products/products.html ) It's designed to use = up > to 4 different guitars going out to one 13 pin device. He doesn't make th= em > on a regular basis, I ordered one last year about this time and only just > now recieved it, but haven't had time to play with it yet. Oh, and the pr= ice > of that is 215.00 eur. > > Recently I've been experimenting with a breakout box and running each str= ing > into bidule and processing them individually. Got some interesting result= s, > but boy was that a drain on the cpu! Of course if you have enough stomp > boxes you could do the same thing with hardware and then bring each signa= l > into a mixer. I tried to use the US-20 with the breakout box but for some > reason the switching doesn't work and you always have the signal from the > BOB on but I could turn the synth side on and off. > > Paul Haslem > Ontario, Canada > www.dulcify.ca > > > > > > > At 07:59 AM 1/20/2011, you wrote: >> >> On 1/20/11 4:01 PM, "Per Boysen" wrote: >> > >> > Can't you simply put =E0 MIDI cable fr.o.m. The VG into the utger devi= ce? >> >> Won't work, in most cases. =A0The VG, of course, requires an actual audi= o >> signal to process via its COSM algorithm, so it's obvious why that's a >> non-starter through MIDI. =A0However, most (all?) other guitar synths wi= ll >> also require a guitar-type controller to trigger the synth engine; they >> cannot be played via normal MIDI note input. =A0So the architecture need= s to >> be a "split and run in parallel" setup, rather than a "chain one device >> after another" effect run. >> >> Now if the question were concerning the VG in tandem with a generic MIDI >> synth module, your solution would work just fine. =A0I've done the same = with >> my VG-99 in conjunction with a JV-1080. =A0Unfortunately in this case, b= oth >> devices need to be driven from a GK-style pickup controller. >> >> Unless I overlooked something in the original problem description. >> Kevin...? >> >> (P.S. There's another footswitch besides the GKP-4 or US-20 that will >> allow >> you to take two GK inputs and route them to three different devices. =A0= It's >> a >> custom job from a different company out of, I think, Germany. =A0It's >> expensive, but not so much more than having to pay $200 for a US-20. =A0= At >> least you feel like you're getting something besides ripped off for that >> one.) >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m. > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 20:53:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 973CC18345F; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1295643235; bh=KxDRohRGbdOm6tDkv3HCdvVMxwfQqUDDqjJiIZ1FWmU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=nP8cuBi+XZxYESKOHZLu036SxwgQSO1vQQYAFmpCdxJqxY7IVjaVbUHGXDwO26LsNnI2ZEL7B8UK4kU/ZysBxsEattfA/At8GA0s6Zvx9SxRizp3g9Mvip1lxfiYY8Vzz9jCDNulLdb1+pdS6k63Sr7HEe1n44kqwF9kl+2PScI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 524738.44831.bm@smtp132.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: _YM84_wVM1k88LWOdfgOsR1Q1uXITDZMKdf4eXro0hIT8ZO kzZ9TvWqC40a.vo_j5ZPWZzLrejY8xJD7hbajADe78k5rLtiH4GBnWvyaZ0E W0hIfBlvAzqPYslzg5wW8kSvzYaXVeEIarTC9cxis1ruHh1TRsuvyC452CYQ r03KgArHwvDMZgVcwJHoet7qDCz0noulxLv1M1c1RrX0l.iWyQr3U8f39EC3 O1gbDf4k3up9Byf0WII5ErrjHpusSmeTfyOV3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: Subject: semi OT: practice amp for looping Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:53:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I'm sure I'll get some good advice from the looping community so even if it's a bit OT, i'll ask. I'm searching a small amp to practice at home. Something under 150$ and I think that with 15W, it will be enough. I investigated something like the fender mustang, the line6 spider or roland cube but I'll use this mainly for looping and it would be nice to have a solution where I can overdub differents sounds with different FX. As I won't find any amp with an FX loop in this price range and i already have some amp modelling tool ( zoom G2 and Johnson J-Station), would it be OK to buy a keyboard amp instead. The range will be wider and I can also us it to loop bass/synth and voice. Any inputs regarding this solution? Any proposal? I already tested putting my J-sation into my home HiFi but I don't get the response I expect from a guitar amp. It seems to lack some compression and I don't get the "oomph" that I can get even with a very low budget amp (think the squier you get with beginner pack). Thank you for any info; Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 21:05:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F41BF18345B; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DmDDVh+TWLaFhP4uEgDUX2yQnJ0ytIj/UDuyDC1yMeQ=; b=deMN7nFRoqhjVTJYqURyanHkhc3Kt/7Kw7qIPeYkVt8DOAqiiGecNoKLAoX8HHFUAQ qvhIlg0PPHjFol0D+ECOZ71ecXz+CCM5wWgRKxNT8RjRwMthjgzhS5Dq8TT82HP+MONr VUUBbKocFmC3UWFvDoWYmlTBVD+9sMowHAkBY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gnGZ4vIMW2kpu9KNML+KfipNz6H43OnbhY84bPVgaiHg4TikHIG0I7dnVsc1mSv/5q GhX9KJ8xKWV1Rop4OazzoHDSOTj0C524f0f28OPVktaap9zrmYP5D5H3vhw9NoitMzWy 4HVHr5h0mv6++71UJxWtGbsWOk2DoKru9CRlY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:05:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: semi OT: practice amp for looping From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549609abcf42049a619a69 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:05:05 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549609abcf42049a619a69 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Vox Mini 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01rVgISZdKE On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Ruelle Benoit wrote: > Hello, > I'm sure I'll get some good advice from the looping community so even if > it's a bit OT, i'll ask. > > I'm searching a small amp to practice at home. Something under 150$ and I > think that with 15W, it will be enough. > I investigated something like the fender mustang, the line6 spider or > roland cube but I'll use this mainly for looping and it would be nice to > have a solution where I can overdub differents sounds with different FX. > > As I won't find any amp with an FX loop in this price range and i already > have some amp modelling tool ( zoom G2 and Johnson J-Station), would it be > OK to buy a keyboard amp instead. The range will be wider and I can also us > it to loop bass/synth and voice. Any inputs regarding this solution? Any > proposal? I already tested putting my J-sation into my home HiFi but I don't > get the response I expect from a guitar amp. It seems to lack some > compression and I don't get the "oomph" that I can get even with a very low > budget amp (think the squier you get with beginner pack). > > Thank you for any info; > > Ben. > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --20cf30549609abcf42049a619a69 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vox Mini 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D01rVgISZdKE



On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Ruelle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr= > wrote:
Hello,
I'm sure I'll get some good advice from the looping community so ev= en if it's a bit OT, i'll ask.

I'm searching a small amp to practice at home. Something under 150$ and= I think that with 15W, it will be enough.
I investigated something like the fender mustang, the line6 spider or rolan= d cube but I'll use this mainly for looping and =A0it would be nice to = have a solution where I can overdub differents sounds with different FX.
As I won't find any amp with an FX loop in this price range and i alrea= dy have some amp modelling tool ( zoom G2 and Johnson J-Station), would it = be OK to buy a keyboard amp instead. The range will be wider and I can also= us it to loop bass/synth and voice. Any inputs regarding this solution? An= y proposal? I already tested putting my J-sation into my home HiFi but I do= n't get the response I expect from a guitar amp. It seems to lack some = compression and I don't get the "oomph" that I can get even w= ith a very low budget amp (think the squier you get with beginner pack).
Thank you for any info;

Ben.




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--20cf30549609abcf42049a619a69-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 21:13:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0237F18345D; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LYQdxnudhGbJZifpMI3waCsuZTNN8NGw9Syiw2eakvQ=; b=IyPyNDFijQi1OVrlUXqEYjqr6vmq0VDG/GbR1Y7ePGK/ijYPx+vLyFlP69BfhQvW8s zh6fD0ctWZWbCwArhYxdESKyuTowrYKBMaWb5o9OTOPuE423RJ3IF+orxj/pPLeKZ1fJ jemuQ84UW4siqoAZIU6oApSJLbuyheNafZrsA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dhsIaCl98EworMgxxllIV0AStF2Jue3LMQNYzj0KSUXVVXG1wY+BT67x7l5LVDufuQ 7HCAhpQAprj+2B0sohJVHK2Y3hPg5bG70RojvaezphWh1gEzbMzmxtt83a8P5c+5AuXL ix/g0K1yRYdqFAMMK6u4l/wf0XP3wGc3BCayA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <357BA0B3-8F11-4ED4-8E19-C5143FA08B34@baymoon.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:59:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: M9/M13/HD500 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <9oHE9B.A.WjF.rbfONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:13:16 +0000 (UTC) if u mean the looper mono unfortunately.... On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:35 AM, William Walker wrote: >> HD500 is 48 seconds at normal speed the other two are 28 seconds at normal >> speed, half speed doubles the length of course. > > Is the HD500 mono or stereo? > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 21:30:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 808B2183459; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1337 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:30:33 UTC X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on server03.gorrie X-Spam-Level: ***** X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=05.2 required=5.0 tests=FUZZY_XPILL=3.314, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.819,RDNS_NONE=0.1 autolearn=disabled version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Report: * 3.3 FUZZY_XPILL BODY: Attempt to obfuscate words in spam * 1.8 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars * 0.1 RDNS_NONE Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS Message-ID: <20110121160812.175626irhsamj3dw@www.wightman.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:08:12 -0500 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth References: <20110120151425.D4C0214DD6@ns4.tnt21.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:30:36 +0000 (UTC) That is the breakout box that I bought last year. It works great to =20 split up the strings and process them individualy but for some reason =20 doesn't seem to be compatable with the roland us-20. I get the signal =20 through the us-20 but it continues no mater what pedal I press. Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca Quoting Kevin Cheli-Colando : > Another option I've discovered (someone here pointed me to this a > while ago I think) > > http://billbax.110mb.com/ > > Anyone have an experience with these (horrible website btw). > > Kevin > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:14 AM, paul wrote: >> I have a US-20 and presently drive an Axon AX-50 and a WP-20. It works >> great, lets you run one or the other or both. I paid $250.00 for it but i= n >> the long run it's been worth it because it works and it lets me do what I >> wanted to do. The other device from Germany that I think you're referring= to >> is a SW41 by Klaus Schock ( >> http://www.klausschock.com/Products/products.html ) It's designed to use = up >> to 4 different guitars going out to one 13 pin device. He doesn't make th= em >> on a regular basis, I ordered one last year about this time and only just >> now recieved it, but haven't had time to play with it yet. Oh, and the pr= ice >> of that is 215.00 eur. >> >> Recently I've been experimenting with a breakout box and running each str= ing >> into bidule and processing them individually. Got some interesting result= s, >> but boy was that a drain on the cpu! Of course if you have enough stomp >> boxes you could do the same thing with hardware and then bring each signa= l >> into a mixer. I tried to use the US-20 with the breakout box but for some >> reason the switching doesn't work and you always have the signal from the >> BOB on but I could turn the synth side on and off. >> >> Paul Haslem >> Ontario, Canada >> www.dulcify.ca >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 07:59 AM 1/20/2011, you wrote: >>> >>> On 1/20/11 4:01 PM, "Per Boysen" wrote: >>> > >>> > Can't you simply put =E0 MIDI cable fr.o.m. The VG into the utger devi= ce? >>> >>> Won't work, in most cases. =A0The VG, of course, requires an actual audi= o >>> signal to process via its COSM algorithm, so it's obvious why that's a >>> non-starter through MIDI. =A0However, most (all?) other guitar synths wi= ll >>> also require a guitar-type controller to trigger the synth engine; they >>> cannot be played via normal MIDI note input. =A0So the architecture need= s to >>> be a "split and run in parallel" setup, rather than a "chain one device >>> after another" effect run. >>> >>> Now if the question were concerning the VG in tandem with a generic MIDI >>> synth module, your solution would work just fine. =A0I've done the same = with >>> my VG-99 in conjunction with a JV-1080. =A0Unfortunately in this case, b= oth >>> devices need to be driven from a GK-style pickup controller. >>> >>> Unless I overlooked something in the original problem description. >>> Kevin...? >>> >>> (P.S. There's another footswitch besides the GKP-4 or US-20 that will >>> allow >>> you to take two GK inputs and route them to three different devices. =A0= It's >>> a >>> custom job from a different company out of, I think, Germany. =A0It's >>> expensive, but not so much more than having to pay $200 for a US-20. =A0= At >>> least you feel like you're getting something besides ripped off for that >>> one.) >>> >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m. >> >> > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 21:40:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B9CC18345F; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1NUh4LR5Mni2y+nsgQ2+goVCwIVEH2InMvLFZnSa7Ro=; b=B6CEHMaL/i2e85EDAfzZVAObp16UTos9KpxirRBC2sCOYm3Y7izdCoV1aMzLkigKYp MRFnWw85iHIwRIvbY++4k3LnOU2My686qMOyhyRMNYGK0Unf11dK/Ry44ca0+y3uCFtJ fJoWh47lV04udMVwn+LbV7vp7dv6L1dVf2gr8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B0XFpQv+MpUJX+QPmxkHxrucY+pRh7CJcZUt6WSoQhRCX+CJbV//qAmuC5YNiahEmB RinB1yuHBVJL0pzD+gY2LpMpxJRlYZwK+ooTenS80dpS2ia3YLAKr4/WR201rp9nIEKG NkZGD1eitEwQK1RcKb+BejhRkU2rAz3oUuQgw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110121160812.175626irhsamj3dw@www.wightman.ca> References: <20110120151425.D4C0214DD6@ns4.tnt21.com> <20110121160812.175626irhsamj3dw@www.wightman.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:40:25 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Have you used it to split the signal from one 13 pin guitar or do you just use it as the breakout? Kevin On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:08 PM, wrote: > That is the breakout box that I bought last year. It works great to split= up > the strings and process them individualy but for some reason doesn't seem= to > be compatable with the roland us-20. I get the signal through the us-20 b= ut > it continues no mater what pedal I press. > > Paul Haslem > Ontario, Canada > www.dulcify.ca > > > > > > > > Quoting Kevin Cheli-Colando : > >> Another option I've discovered (someone here pointed me to this a >> while ago I think) >> >> http://billbax.110mb.com/ >> >> Anyone have an experience with these (horrible website btw). >> >> Kevin >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:14 AM, paul wrote: >>> >>> I have a US-20 and presently drive an Axon AX-50 and a WP-20. It works >>> great, lets you run one or the other or both. I paid $250.00 for it but >>> in >>> the long run it's been worth it because it works and it lets me do what= I >>> wanted to do. The other device from Germany that I think you're referri= ng >>> to >>> is a SW41 by Klaus Schock ( >>> http://www.klausschock.com/Products/products.html ) It's designed to us= e >>> up >>> to 4 different guitars going out to one 13 pin device. He doesn't make >>> them >>> on a regular basis, I ordered one last year about this time and only ju= st >>> now recieved it, but haven't had time to play with it yet. Oh, and the >>> price >>> of that is 215.00 eur. >>> >>> Recently I've been experimenting with a breakout box and running each >>> string >>> into bidule and processing them individually. Got some interesting >>> results, >>> but boy was that a drain on the cpu! Of course if you have enough stomp >>> boxes you could do the same thing with hardware and then bring each >>> signal >>> into a mixer. I tried to use the US-20 with the breakout box but for so= me >>> reason the switching doesn't work and you always have the signal from t= he >>> BOB on but I could turn the synth side on and off. >>> >>> Paul Haslem >>> Ontario, Canada >>> www.dulcify.ca >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 07:59 AM 1/20/2011, you wrote: >>>> >>>> On 1/20/11 4:01 PM, "Per Boysen" wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Can't you simply put =E0 MIDI cable fr.o.m. The VG into the utger >>>> > device? >>>> >>>> Won't work, in most cases. =A0The VG, of course, requires an actual au= dio >>>> signal to process via its COSM algorithm, so it's obvious why that's a >>>> non-starter through MIDI. =A0However, most (all?) other guitar synths = will >>>> also require a guitar-type controller to trigger the synth engine; the= y >>>> cannot be played via normal MIDI note input. =A0So the architecture ne= eds >>>> to >>>> be a "split and run in parallel" setup, rather than a "chain one devic= e >>>> after another" effect run. >>>> >>>> Now if the question were concerning the VG in tandem with a generic MI= DI >>>> synth module, your solution would work just fine. =A0I've done the sam= e >>>> with >>>> my VG-99 in conjunction with a JV-1080. =A0Unfortunately in this case, >>>> both >>>> devices need to be driven from a GK-style pickup controller. >>>> >>>> Unless I overlooked something in the original problem description. >>>> Kevin...? >>>> >>>> (P.S. There's another footswitch besides the GKP-4 or US-20 that will >>>> allow >>>> you to take two GK inputs and route them to three different devices. >>>> =A0It's >>>> a >>>> custom job from a different company out of, I think, Germany. =A0It's >>>> expensive, but not so much more than having to pay $200 for a US-20. = =A0At >>>> least you feel like you're getting something besides ripped off for th= at >>>> one.) >>>> >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl= e. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 23:11:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E4CE18345D; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 492 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:11:10 UTC Message-Id: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--483804209 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Introductin & naive questions Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:02:55 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa02b; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:02:55 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:11:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--483804209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bought a Boss RC-2 Loop Station a year or two ago and after initial frustration and disinterest it has been sitting on the shelf until recently. In the last couple of weeks I've been investigating looping pretty seriously. I've been watching a lot of videos and the variety of music making being done with loopers is pretty amazing. And, I've been fooling around with the RC-2. When I bought the device, I thought compact was a good idea, but I soon realized more switches are better and just bought an FS-6 switch. It is still not the magic bullet I was hoping for. I am just missing some basic technique, I think, or my mind just doesn't work in the same way as Boss, but I often end up not where I want to be. I have to ask if this is possible: I get that you have to define the loop boundary with a second click, but what I want to do is immediately start recording an overdub at that point. I would think that would be a one click operation. The other thing is, it seems there should be a very easy way to stop one loop and start another with one click. I haven't found a way to do either of these things with the RC-2. Advancing to the next memory position gets me half way there. I had been looking at different hardware devices out there and then I ran across this group and a discussion about Mobius. Mobius looks like a killer app. I've only just fooled around with it a little. Together with a Behringer FCB1010 it looks like a combo that could do just about anything. It would be an excuse to buy a new laptop and the aforementioned pedal. Still, that is quite an investment and I want to be sure I would be able to do those two tasks I mentioned above. Would it be easy to do those things? Thank you in advance. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ --Apple-Mail-1--483804209 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I bought a Boss RC-2 Loop = Station a year or two ago and after initial frustration and disinterest = it has been sitting on the shelf until recently. In the last couple of = weeks I've been investigating looping pretty seriously. I've = been watching a lot of videos and the variety of music making being done = with loopers is pretty amazing. And, I've been fooling around with = the RC-2.

When I bought the device, I thought = compact was a good idea, but I soon realized more switches are better = and just bought an FS-6 switch. It is still not the magic bullet I was = hoping for. I am just missing some basic technique, I think, or my mind = just doesn't work in the same way as Boss, but I often end up not where = I want to be. 

I have to ask if this is = possible: 
 I get that you have to define the loop = boundary with a second click, but what I want to do is immediately start = recording an overdub at that point. I would think that would be a one = click operation. 
 The other thing is, it seems = there should be a very easy way to stop one loop and start another with = one click. I haven't found a way to do either of these things with the = RC-2. Advancing to the next memory position gets me half way = there.

I had been looking at different hardware = devices out there and then I ran across this group and a discussion = about Mobius. Mobius looks like a killer app. I've only just fooled = around with it a little. Together with a Behringer FCB1010 it looks like = a combo that could do just about anything. It would be an excuse to buy = a new laptop and the aforementioned pedal. Still, that is quite an = investment and I want to be sure I would be able to do those two tasks I = mentioned above. Would it be easy to do those things?
Thank = you in advance.


= --Apple-Mail-1--483804209-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 23:31:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B8F118345D; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Br0TXnsME3lI1mH4aFPe/zXuCuOcHB88XSDeoj6EbZE=; b=kQUjG/bUnwDwlwbL8ygbA9EYIUr30Ok/85SLXAPgbFCjkz9wJpfaLPGXg4xde8NRzV TQOA+LxR5ucVQdb+sPQFLPU9p2csONunD+brlLDxO9RTQ2xRQksiiXT4bKqGYSkA8Zq7 IV8ImR3YK1BHN5vf+X3pZQnUDpeTHvIFaVto8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZX0ScZlGifnRaQ9pU5Rd1RQBshsSSSbo0bsCFc1hVHM576LH9Sd/n5M7YWJo1rFCZk KH0A1vkP7Fq46q6/TqJRnTyX+pkn/+FhiLG3WzY4rSD0b/LKZFx6wy9YbS17Gol/Fc0h 8OIfyyrB5IrtkGF0Rx6tM2K+iy6fqRRAvqpI8= Message-ID: <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 00:31:52 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Introductin & naive questions References: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> In-Reply-To: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Ed Durbrow schrieb: > I have to ask if this is possible: > I get that you have to define the loop boundary with a second click, > but what I want to do is immediately start recording an overdub at > that point. I would think that would be a one click operation. > The other thing is, it seems there should be a very easy way to stop > one loop and start another with one click. I haven't found a way to do > either of these things with the RC-2. Advancing to the next memory > position gets me half way there. > > [using Möbius/FCB1010]: Would it be easy to do those things? The short answer is: it depends how you define "easy". The first thing (immediately going from record to overdub) - yes, that's very easy. Möbius (like the EDP) offers independent "Record" and "Overdub" commands - so, you start recording with "record", and at the end of your loop hit either "record" (to end the loop and go to playback) or "overdub" (to end the loop and go directly to overdub). The second one: there's a setting which is named something like "AutoRecord when NextLoop" which, when activated, does exactly this. (@Jeff: I think details have changed w/ version 1.43, so you might want to chime in here). Ah, Ed, btw: the developer of Möbius, Jeff Larson, is also active on this list. Other things to consider: a) there are alternatives to the FCB1010. b) you did think about proper audio/MIDI interface for the computer? (just asking, because from your message alone, it's hard to judge how experienced you are w/ computer live audio). Yours, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 21 23:44:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E5AF18345D; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <33CC1B5B-AC39-4B8F-A118-D52DAF9643AE@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: M9/M13/HD500 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:44:13 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:44:22 +0000 (UTC) The HD has a mono in (actually an extra aux in as well but not meant for stereo apps) , it does have a stereo out, can't say about the looper though I assume its mono, I can't for the life of me see how this is terribly important unless it was a true stereo multi track looper like the LP-1 and you wanted to pan tracks in the stereo field, or you have a stereo output like I assume you do Sjaak and you needed to preserve your imaging. stereo is great for studio mix down but in a live situation it can cause you phase cancellation issues where, unless you are standing in a sweet spot, you might stop being able to hear a crucial element of your mix like something rhythmic you need to hear. If you gotta have panning or stereo imaging this is a workaround: I use an M-9, but I rarely use anything other than delays of various types, and the occasional specialty reverbs, ring modulator, or filters , so I park the looper in front of other effects so i can reprocess it with stereo delays (or any of the M-9's stereo modulation effects or panners ) and send it in stereo to the LP-1, then resample if i want . Problem solved Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 01:51:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D0D418345D; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 01:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DVJE7NDRcRv6ENRfIHVUypE5hBnEOj/wpfFqXttlHgA=; b=nuGtmpNNIvImJUlDx4fdWrm9uHi4G+fqs75VHTC3O7tMP5Idt5MBwG5dclnQq+Tna0 GO16H/P77l2OU2RwyuoZ1oISzNQWcdSr7zibWJcKlQ9LEldHE5v5ELWLITaLziwePyUu OZsSrYiZiYT1VzsKmE6BcW4svQG3KcpeVQEWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hqyuiFLFUIIQ1sJ5c45Tp/JogEA2AsFEXnjfneLUmGwrdE7gW/dBZCWLFGGEPlc9da IuF5CA/K9E7LwetzY2wbavENZIwgG9sVLiS3sl7n7a5W+4Qo0771Y9301ykSeQctD+1S l3vHph+/wnH6ZohvBzqKhxSIna2xCyszqAI9Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33CC1B5B-AC39-4B8F-A118-D52DAF9643AE@baymoon.com> References: <33CC1B5B-AC39-4B8F-A118-D52DAF9643AE@baymoon.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 02:51:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: M9/M13/HD500 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 01:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Bill i never really understood either why stereo looping was so important But now that i have the new digitech stereo looper,man it does make a difference specially when you loop the stereo fx the line 6 m9 has to offer. I know for us guitarrists is maybe not always that important, but Sjaak does beautiful dreamy synth soundscapes where space and dimesion is crucial I remember listening to him and being lost in his sound, it sounded huge and it would be a pity to sacrifice his signal with a mono looper;-) Luis On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:44 AM, William Walker w= rote: > The HD has a mono in (actually an extra aux in as well but not meant for > stereo apps) , it does have a =A0stereo out, can't say about the looper t= hough > I assume its mono, I can't for the life of me see how this is terribly > important unless it was a true stereo multi track looper =A0like the LP-1= and > you wanted to pan tracks in the stereo field, or you have a stereo output > like I assume you do Sjaak and you needed to preserve your imaging. stere= o > =A0is =A0great for =A0studio mix down =A0but in a live situation it can c= ause you > phase cancellation issues where, unless you are standing in a sweet spot, > you might stop being able to hear a crucial element of your mix like > something rhythmic you need to hear. =A0If you gotta have panning or ster= eo > imaging this is a workaround: =A0I use an M-9, but I rarely use anything = other > than delays of various types, =A0and the occasional specialty reverbs, ri= ng > modulator, or filters , so I park the looper in front of other effects so= i > can reprocess it with stereo delays (or any of the M-9's stereo modulatio= n > effects or panners ) =A0and send it in stereo to =A0the LP-1, then resamp= le if i > want . =A0Problem solved > > Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 06:16:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6601E18345F; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 01:16:41 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth In-Reply-To: References: <20110120151425.D4C0214DD6@ns4.tnt21.com> <20110121160812.175626irhsamj3dw@www.wightman.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20110122061615.7D80914DF4@ns4.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:16:17 +0000 (UTC) I only used it as a breakout box, the 13 pin out is only a pass through. What I would have liked is a switch that gave me the breakout box or the pin out for a synth or vg box. Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca At 04:40 PM 1/21/2011, you wrote: >Have you used it to split the signal from one 13 pin guitar or do you >just use it as the breakout? > >Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 06:17:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D21418345B; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--457740199 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Introductin & naive questions Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:17:19 +0900 References: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa04b; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:17:19 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:17:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--457740199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Jan 22, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> [using M=F6bius/FCB1010]: Would it be easy to do those things? > The short answer is: it depends how you define "easy". > > The first thing (immediately going from record to overdub) - yes, =20 > that's very easy. > M=F6bius (like the EDP) offers independent "Record" and "Overdub" =20 > commands - so, you start recording with "record", and at the end of =20= > your loop hit either "record" (to end the loop and go to playback) =20 > or "overdub" (to end the loop and go directly to overdub). > The second one: there's a setting which is named something like =20 > "AutoRecord when NextLoop" which, when activated, does exactly this. =20= > (@Jeff: I think details have changed w/ version 1.43, so you might =20 > want to chime in here). That doesn't sound too bad, if it is just a matter of choosing a =20 command from a menu. What about on hardware loopers? Do most? some? few? offer these =20 features? > Ah, Ed, btw: the developer of M=F6bius, Jeff Larson, is also active on = =20 > this list. That is great. I can see there are some very knowledgeable people =20 here. BTW is there any tutorial or manual anywhere online for Mobius? =20= It is pretty daunting. > Other things to consider: > b) you did think about proper audio/MIDI interface for the =20 > computer? (just asking, because from your message alone, it's hard =20 > to judge how experienced you are w/ computer live audio). Yes, good point. It depends on what you mean by experienced. :-) As =20 you can see I'm very new to looping but I have some experience with =20 audio/midi in a home recording studio environment. I've seen =20 discussion about midi sync and so on but I have no experience with it =20= as far as looping goes. I can only imagine it is a good thing. I have a Firepod & 828mkII for audio (1x1 midi) and an MTPav for midi, =20= but I'd like to get a small portable interface as I'm going for a set =20= up that I can carry. I am using the latest versions of Logic and =20 Digital Performer. I haven't delved into Main Stage yet. I just =20 acquired the three Nanos from Korg: Kontrol, Key, Pad. Thank you. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ --Apple-Mail-2--457740199 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Jan 22, 2011, = at 8:31 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:
[using M=F6bius/FCB1010]: = Would it be easy to do those things?
The short answer = is: it depends how you define "easy".

The first thing = (immediately going from record to overdub) - yes, that's very = easy.
M=F6bius (like the EDP) offers independent "Record" and = "Overdub" commands - so, you start recording with "record", and at the = end of your loop hit either "record" (to end the loop and go to = playback) or "overdub" (to end the loop and go directly to = overdub).
The = second one: there's a setting which is named something like "AutoRecord = when NextLoop" which, when activated, does exactly this. (@Jeff: I think = details have changed w/ version 1.43, so you might want to chime in = here).

That doesn't sound too = bad, if it is just a matter of choosing a command from a = menu. 
What about on hardware loopers? Do most? some? = few? offer these features?

Ah, Ed, btw: = the developer of M=F6bius, Jeff Larson, is also active on this = list.

That is great. I can see = there are some very knowledgeable people here. BTW is there any tutorial = or manual anywhere online for Mobius? It is pretty = daunting.

Other things to = consider:
  b) you did think about proper audio/MIDI = interface for the computer? (just asking, because from your message = alone, it's hard to judge how experienced you are w/ computer live = audio).

Yes, good point. It depends on = what you mean by experienced. :-) As you can see I'm very new to looping = but I have some experience with audio/midi in a home recording studio = environment. I've seen discussion about midi sync and so on but I = have no experience with it as far as looping goes. I can = only imagine it is a good thing.

I have a = Firepod & 828mkII for audio (1x1 midi) and an MTPav for midi, but = I'd like to get a small portable interface as I'm going for a set = up that I can carry. I am using the latest versions of Logic = and Digital Performer. I haven't delved into Main Stage yet. I just = acquired the three Nanos from Korg: Kontrol, Key, = Pad. 
Thank you.


= --Apple-Mail-2--457740199-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 07:25:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5419018345D; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3376CB29-DD27-4633-AD23-CE604918DCA2@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: glitchy Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:25:11 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:25:19 +0000 (UTC) To glitch or not to glitch that is the question, My brand new stutter bomb arrived from loopmaster today and I must say I am really dissapointed. Like the dual momentary switch I bought from loopmaster a few months back , the switches on this pedal, though momentary, have the feel and the audible click of a standard latching switch... Not unlike the TC G switch I bought a few years ago as well. Whats up with that? Not only does this stutter bomb have an audible click it also has an audible crackle as well which is noticeable when looping , particularly clean tones. Its a simple passive switch in a tiny metal chassis and perhaps it has a static charge issue, but this is one instance when I wish I had read reviews first, $30 I may not get back. Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb I'll go back to using my old korg tuner with a boss fs-u switch connected to the mute jack for stu-u- uttt-tt-ter--ing. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 08:45:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99F8818345D; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:45:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NpS20JqkWHH1EltyNzG8fYa7ddIFxNW2IROpkwnHnRI=; b=jc2AQoIwHmbCprv4pBsvGODGcsvLX4LhiQhhGL/dEv3qt5E85klciqFazxDivE0j38 KZtNdXJbrvIx2GGmVdIsYOvCnl9JrfCxoTRcmPzvoMKuRsQd7D8QAB5P5qOuLVq3EBd1 YOnzdTt6x7HFEBOMoxU/qPV6r+dl2QRKvgGEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JCYqyyNqJmHCIVxvU68ndipIpuoF9llxHN6MWKBfWbj2FXrro9HkmxUH5q9Vs0BB+8 glagd5Ki94PF5iHlw4rT4csPZhM0myQ78xtna0T8X8UcV138I9x8FXpZpr2O2+84ZMtj bV9xp8gymSQF4nZdzh2SkB+eX+pYZ8Mn7MXuo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 00:44:59 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: PMC-10 MIDI Pedal From: Gary Lehmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364eda54c36b08049a6b61a1 Resent-Message-ID: <9sQtJ.A.1XF.LkpONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:45:00 +0000 (UTC) --0016364eda54c36b08049a6b61a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is anyone here still using the Digitech PMC-10? --0016364eda54c36b08049a6b61a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is anyone here still using the Digitech PMC-10? --0016364eda54c36b08049a6b61a1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 09:17:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48BC418345A; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3AA0A4.3050000@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 04:17:24 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:17:28 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, January 22 at 6 am EST/GMT-5. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 09:51:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAFB118345E; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 560899708/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.218/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.218 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsIBANs2Ok1V0rva/2dsb2JhbAAMlkbLOYVQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,362,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="560899708" Message-ID: <4D3AA8C7.8040109@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:52:07 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: danelectro tape echo/s References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2t4GYB.A.ZAH.5iqONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Scott Hansen wrote: > the dan-echo thing i had looked at a yr ago. it seemed interesting. i > love the layout of it. wish it had more time available. wish it sort of > mimiced creating a tape loop and manipulate the time more (slow/fast & > fast/slow). What it does do is provide a 1.5s delay with a feature that is no doubt unintentional. Works like this: just an example If you make a loop at 1.5s and then shorten the delay time to 0.1 seconds the 1.4s of audio in the rest of the loop is stored... ..an will still be there if you return the delay time to 1.5s. That's because they didn't bother, or didn't have the processor power to kuill the artefacts when changing the delay time. For certain LDer's that might be a glitchy GAS feature. Also it has a freeze button (unhelpfully called Sound on Sound) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 10:43:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E45DB18345D; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 569539623/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.218/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.218 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsIBAMtDOk1V0rva/2dsb2JhbAAMlkbLMoVQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,362,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="569539623" Message-ID: <4D3AB4F6.5020503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:44:06 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: M9/M13/HD500 References: <33CC1B5B-AC39-4B8F-A118-D52DAF9643AE@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo wrote: > Bill i never really understood either why stereo looping was so important A lot of the time it isn't. The way I use stereo echoes really loses a lot when it's reduced to mono. I'm very careful to let the rhythm of the echo form an integral part of the music rather than being just an fx. I vary the sounds all the time, so post processing would be a poor substitute. Also the 2 EDPs are used to create spatial fx. When playing through a mono pa it's drag. I haven't had any of the phase cancellation problems that Bill talks about when playing stereo, perhaps because I use mostly 100% panning and no reverb. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 10:52:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA472183461; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dPcv9IaQVRJU/96TM4JYmUjZWPEH95SNSTW1plscXPg=; b=bdNNdQWVDO1nGEjnJRfhqePsihPH9PTgAqITHVvz30zakxWxJX71kmhTB3CpzcfpX7 GFElZMkytxWPArPrQr13BlxQCIsevpFtV/QUmkBna7P8nxtnEE13H8ZvD62KKqXHT2ed kmkkbCUlqp999cP2ct/S7ucJJyMAZR2rDXQaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h3zF1ttw4RwlespXxQugb1KJ73Vg1dPSmAAqbkUn+HHb9NGwmBZDybn0MRvA/4InaU htzORxzpEYHRVIfOuD/ZXfFxjKAHNIYun6zfRZey3poa20vcjXT89Skge2/CcuhmSYgH RJNVjxZziIoyBnInj458L87IBQUYoLHyaBq1I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3AB4F6.5020503@tiscali.co.uk> References: <33CC1B5B-AC39-4B8F-A118-D52DAF9643AE@baymoon.com> <4D3AB4F6.5020503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:52:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: M9/M13/HD500 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:52:35 +0000 (UTC) BTW Love your CD Andy,especially all those stereo ping pong delays and your vortex stereo spatial sound it has become really your trademark mate! cheers Luis On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:44 AM, andy butler wrot= e: > Louie Angulo wrote: >> >> Bill i never really understood either why stereo looping =A0was so impor= tant > > A lot of the time it isn't. > > The way I use stereo echoes really loses a lot when it's reduced to mono. > I'm =A0very careful to let the rhythm of > the echo form an integral part of the music rather than being > just an fx. > I vary the sounds all the time, > so post processing would be a poor substitute. > Also the 2 EDPs are used to create spatial fx. > When playing through a mono pa it's drag. > > I haven't had any of the phase cancellation problems that > Bill talks about when playing stereo, perhaps because > I use mostly 100% panning and no reverb. > > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 10:56:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E651183461; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I10jv3qLqwdumAaM4p5cAH3Ps9yrJlyRvMHqjoHeLxQ=; b=wfHJ1BA/jbuBlTkjC80BZ5X3SEFTol9JzP2hT0QQWehfyeuZRI4476xu8NVEBNjpBx 2pGNZk86CC8h89onAxeH4xtzlzDr7vFSRz1+k/yu58rse6njSS+6/ynW3TOqxeNKE4VQ YXHE+leBBdHBjecjIbkPSKO8w2OzeOaAxItvg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=B/HP2CDsaOBfMAdFtviMkGX8uC1zlNc4GgqS9oiSK/fs3mD7NEBK4rWxpTuZmGamZN zyrWlPyaEfuGT8OIT4IgXytN1g35g+qkZOIF7rWPqD8e4y2yVBGxFBMf5OrEbagXa3ud nPCf/8PGugVyWtro9SYDinLgrXr7DtB9Aou3I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:56:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PMC-10 MIDI Pedal From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:56:22 +0000 (UTC) contact Berhard Wagner,he uses it and is really up to date with it. check out his website there is info on how to program it as well. http://bernhardwagner.net/ hope that helps Luis P.S. good to have u back Gary, still remeber playin that loop festival in SD with you, Rick will b delighted to hear about you as well. On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Gary Lehmann wrote: > Is anyone here still using the Digitech PMC-10? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 11:10:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 559C5183474; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:09:32 +0900 Subject: Re: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: OT? Driving a VG unit and guitar synth Thread-Index: Acu6JNhCTOnEWyK6QVW0yvp444QqBA== In-Reply-To: <20110120151425.D4C0214DD6@ns4.tnt21.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:10:46 +0000 (UTC) On 1/21/11 12:14 AM, "paul" wrote: > At 07:59 AM 1/20/2011, Dustbunnies wrote: >> >> (P.S. There's another footswitch besides the GKP-4 or US-20 that will allow >> you to take two GK inputs and route them to three different devices. It's a >> custom job from a different company out of, I think, Germany. > > The other device from Germany that I think you're referring > to is a SW41 by Klaus Schock ( > http://www.klausschock.com/Products/products.html > ) It's designed to use up to 4 different guitars > going out to one 13 pin device. I've seen Klaus' box before, but actually that wasn't the one I was thinking of. The one to which I was referring is here: http://www.chd-el.cz/index.php?id=140&lngid=en The SGUS-3 by Elektroservis, out of Praha (not Deutschland, as I'd originally stated). Allows for one GK instrument to be routed to any or all of three GK devices (Roland VG, GR, etc.). Also, I was mistaken bout the second input. Rather, that second jack is an audio output so that the normal guitar pickup's signal can be taken straight from the 13-pin cable to another effect loop or amp. Price is 165 Euros, which is comparable to the US-20 price (but with more functionality). Don't know what shipping is like, but the pricelist was updated January 2011, so he's keeping current, it seems. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 11:12:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00854183461; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3ABB93.4090500@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 03:12:19 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louie Angulo CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: M9/M13/HD500 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:12:28 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > I know for us guitarrists is maybe not always that important, but > Sjaak does beautiful dreamy synth soundscapes where space and dimesion > is crucial > I remember listening to him and being lost in his sound, it sounded > huge and it would be a pity to sacrifice his signal with a mono > looper;-) I really do hear what Bill had to say about this, but I do agree with Luis, in this instance, having heard Sjaak's beautiful ambient soundscapes live several times. The more spatial the 'swirl' is, the better in this case. I am almost entirely a mono looper myself because I do see it's egalitarian possibilities (everyone gets a similar mix regardless of where they stand in the room) but I also see that extreme phase cancellation only occurs in one place in a room, exactly equidistant from the speakers (I know this is a simplification of all the intricate possibilities of phase cancellation but I am only talking about when one's left signal is 180 degrees out of phase with the right side's signal)..........so the damage is not horrible even when this occurs, except for a noticeable drop in volume when all frequencies are 180 degrees out of phase. I think this possibility is much less of a problem when there is a lot of rhythmic content in the music, like the way, Bill, Luis or I play. Mono can work better sometimes in these situations. that's my not terribly informed two cents, rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 14:28:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8899F183478; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wFDV/DttKgrpgxSMMzqenj7S9ZC5gP/y/0pujRNrkNI=; b=R1Nck2nczkIiFM+tdD0OUgOnDmSiUFeQdCUJ1kK7/yjYBd1IYq58xFzVYRK75ByeR6 c0sJNT2L3I94FFJcTTgi76tlip0PzU0Pq+cglZe4vToswdn2MH7SjVq+T5S6Ezv/H2Op laOgrq2y/FgL8+nFeVn9LcpqKMvmvIU5zq6zk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AQ9jn0+6O0gNeDhJks324SSx2LKTOpbihVMVemgOC2qfFCfW18Lq/ba/k8GgpMZwGS iKzl8ffcoeFbHb1b3d7rh5hqBnk9HlB3L5r8L44L6Z3BQFOD5uSZvSp6ZjoLaLg0wmPg T4fwIwh1vFv8ehF1pQ+bsyTGHGQytoR9E9bZU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <33CC1B5B-AC39-4B8F-A118-D52DAF9643AE@baymoon.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:28:55 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: M9/M13/HD500 From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b39cc907e1049a702f95 Resent-Message-ID: <5QhyQ.A.x2G.omuONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:28:57 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b39cc907e1049a702f95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Luis So you have the new Jamman Stereo? I have it too, thought no-one on this list uses it... :-) Have you updated the firmware / whats your opinion on JamManager software? IMHO it sucks ass, big time. It only accepts wav's that I've processed and saved with audacity, somethin= g to do with the file format, havent solved it yet. Been saving my backing tracks with audacity, and the JamManager seems to accept them. I had a hell of a headache with that when I did my backing tracks on Cubase= , then saved them to normal PCM 44100 16-bit wav's and that damn thing wouldn= t accept them,=A8 have you had these problems? -Petri- 2011/1/22 Louie Angulo > Bill i never really understood either why stereo looping was so importan= t > But now that i have the new digitech stereo looper,man it does make a > difference specially when you loop the stereo fx the line 6 m9 has to > offer. > I know for us guitarrists is maybe not always that important, but > Sjaak does beautiful dreamy synth soundscapes where space and dimesion > is crucial > I remember listening to him and being lost in his sound, it sounded > huge and it would be a pity to sacrifice his signal with a mono > looper;-) > Luis > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:44 AM, William Walker > wrote: > > The HD has a mono in (actually an extra aux in as well but not meant fo= r > > stereo apps) , it does have a stereo out, can't say about the looper > though > > I assume its mono, I can't for the life of me see how this is terribly > > important unless it was a true stereo multi track looper like the LP-1 > and > > you wanted to pan tracks in the stereo field, or you have a stereo outp= ut > > like I assume you do Sjaak and you needed to preserve your imaging. > stereo > > is great for studio mix down but in a live situation it can cause y= ou > > phase cancellation issues where, unless you are standing in a sweet spo= t, > > you might stop being able to hear a crucial element of your mix like > > something rhythmic you need to hear. If you gotta have panning or ster= eo > > imaging this is a workaround: I use an M-9, but I rarely use anything > other > > than delays of various types, and the occasional specialty reverbs, ri= ng > > modulator, or filters , so I park the looper in front of other effects = so > i > > can reprocess it with stereo delays (or any of the M-9's stereo > modulation > > effects or panners ) and send it in stereo to the LP-1, then resample > if i > > want . Problem solved > > > > Bill > > > > > > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --00151747b39cc907e1049a702f95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Luis

So you have the new Jamman Stereo?

I have it too, tho= ught no-one on this list uses it...=A0 :-)

Have you updated the firm= ware / whats your opinion on JamManager software? IMHO it sucks ass, big ti= me.
It only accepts wav's that I've processed and saved with audacity, = something to do with the file format, havent solved it yet.
Been saving = my backing tracks with audacity, and the JamManager seems to accept them.
I had a hell of a headache with that when I did my backing tracks on Cu= base, then saved them to normal PCM 44100 16-bit wav's and that damn th= ing wouldnt accept them,=A8
have you had these problems?

-Petri-<= br>

2011/1/22 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail= .com>
Bill i never really understood either why stereo looping =A0was so importan= t
But now that i have the new digitech stereo looper,man it does make a
difference specially when you loop the stereo fx the line 6 m9 has to
offer.
I know for us guitarrists is maybe not always that important, but
Sjaak does beautiful dreamy synth soundscapes where space and dimesion
is crucial
I remember listening to him and being lost in his sound, it sounded
huge and it would be a pity to sacrifice his signal =A0with a mono
looper;-)
Luis







On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:44 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
> The HD has a mono in (actually an extra aux in as well but not meant f= or
> stereo apps) , it does have a =A0stereo out, can't say about the l= ooper though
> I assume its mono, I can't for the life of me see how this is terr= ibly
> important unless it was a true stereo multi track looper =A0like the L= P-1 and
> you wanted to pan tracks in the stereo field, or you have a stereo out= put
> like I assume you do Sjaak and you needed to preserve your imaging. st= ereo
> =A0is =A0great for =A0studio mix down =A0but in a live situation it ca= n cause you
> phase cancellation issues where, unless you are standing in a sweet sp= ot,
> you might stop being able to hear a crucial element of your mix like > something rhythmic you need to hear. =A0If you gotta have panning or s= tereo
> imaging this is a workaround: =A0I use an M-9, but I rarely use anythi= ng other
> than delays of various types, =A0and the occasional specialty reverbs,= ring
> modulator, or filters , so I park the looper in front of other effects= so i
> can reprocess it with stereo delays (or any of the M-9's stereo mo= dulation
> effects or panners ) =A0and send it in stereo to =A0the LP-1, then res= ample if i
> want . =A0Problem solved
>
> Bill
>
>




--
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http://ww= w.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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--00151747b39cc907e1049a702f95-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 14:49:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E95318347A; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rk5PuZpTmLXsO5ZAeVM8ksHQY4y10mF1qVCD0ewD2PQ=; b=ar0g1PVgxt2hjqf9/NIp7+Wcm4zktjks1uda/AGGhfcIJmHTV+QtXknGkEC6KOaqGf jKEnLH4DQ64JCRcjPspXfJgRwIjTKHdGAjoB4+3r3TNJvrt0GsX1sCu6nsutwbomumiD NkcgvPJVi3RNOnyRRL6OB8REB++k9md+vj6vw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QOJE8IQmq47gpEYuxmkbHLEvx8uZJKXuGAbbk0zbtIyF++/TFk1XKzm/a1x4Ne7G/b 304jf+05vNX9PSjvC9DNHAves2gb6H0LvtJ1xpoJpkjtvKpqDkM/ODb+EAfx97bdRLRV sIW64Bo5r0VMtJtaNkx5HLazyDZvql37JHrPI= Message-ID: <4D3AEE6D.6010707@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:49:17 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Introductin & naive questions References: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Ed Durbrow schrieb: > That doesn't sound too bad, if it is just a matter of choosing a > command from a menu. > What about on hardware loopers? Do most? some? few? offer these features? I have to admit, I can't give you precise statistics, only those things I know directly or have been studying somewhat: As for the first feature (from record directly to overdub): Things that can do it: EDP (of course), Line6 DL4 (and I would assume the M9, M13 and HD500 as well), Electrix Repeater newer software versions (they didn't have that in the initial release) and anything that is a delay used as a looper (so the Boss DD20 in delay mode can do it). Things that can't: EH SMM w/Hazari, first version of Akai headrush, Boss DD20 in looper ("Sound on Sound") mode. Don't know about all the Boss RC devices - perhaps somebody else can offer info. For the second feature (auto-starting record when going to a new loop). I didn't ask specifically whether you meant that you want to record a new loop and keep the old one (so as to be able to return to it later), or start a new loop and discard the old one. So I'm gonna split this in two parts ("keep" and "replace"): keep: Things that can do it: EDP (configurable), DD20 (in delay mode - well, sort of). Things that can't: everything which doesn't offer multiple loops obviously, Electrix Repeater. replace: Things that can do it: EDP, DD20 (in delay mode - well, sort of). Things that can't: Line6 DL4 (unless you can live with first stopping the running loop and then immediately start recording), EH SMM w/Hazari. So, list members: care to complete this list, please? > That is great. I can see there are some very knowledgeable people > here. BTW is there any tutorial or manual anywhere online for Mobius? > It is pretty daunting. Of course, there's the official documentation: http://www.circularlabs.com/documentation/documentation.html But I'm sure that some list members here have done some "getting started" guides (in a more basic fashion) as well. > Yes, good point. It depends on what you mean by experienced. :-) As > you can see I'm very new to looping but I have some experience with > audio/midi in a home recording studio environment. I've seen > discussion about midi sync and so on but I have no experience with it > as far as looping goes. I can only imagine it is a good thing. Just had a look at your studio page - from that, it seems that you are in fact somewhat experienced. One thing that changes with doing live processing with a computer as opposed to using it as a recorder/console is that the audio interface chain's latency becomes a factor. There are several options regarding mobile audio/MIDI interfaces which work fine. Personally, I use a TC Konnekt24D (which finally has advanced to a point where the driver SW can be called acceptable). Everything by RME Audio is usually a safe bet, and from what I heard, the same is true for most MOTU interfaces. For something more in the low-price range, both I and others here have good experiences with the Presonus Firebox. But, as I usuallly say, just write down your exact requirements, and then choose... Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 16:02:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A46D118347E; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KfIXpUUI7pUMHhPHZwV50eJN7uiUn+UtxuKYITdLgAo=; b=FENrGB9anmEddOdR2x+afm/mce/rDHfBYiE0a2xZUZ+cbeoxsG5VDqkP3B6mjQWuSj 4YwyVbA3+ZVlQkplriDvC2UiLnX8ZCh3aVTN6+00wuSsyoqTvh5SOYH6GuM+pFtoJ/mb YWjcigUSvAOaA4O1QAvUtM99BBoCeMnhLi9cg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WV+tCzBIoILq5R02IoiJcmH30DCeQK/wp2rehDqW6jVVmX9FJnpP60ZCmOmYyCg26K rYOZCwhNXjyKxxlIQUKV2eqEykC0tIkymKLM/9nW2QwFziP7dHKFWMb3kewc1YEdYDkQ M1noQLLbrUZYNuBpetF9ihXwvtcRyYmevcg/4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:02:49 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Introduction & naive questions (boss rc2) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636426603982fd2049a717f80 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:02:51 +0000 (UTC) --001636426603982fd2049a717f80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi-welcome to the list. here are my comments, they are general, not probably real specific to the rc2. i think the 1st thing you need to realize, is there is no ONE MAGIC LOOP DEVICE FOR ANY ONE PERSON. i had a boss rc20 until a little over a yr ago (this is the original one that had 5 min of recording time, not the XL model), had it for probably a bit over a yr. loved it at times, hated it at other times. i most liked the ability to do reverse, which i don't think the rc2 can do. this is sort of my take on loopers-YOU HAVE TO FEED IT THINGS, it takes your playing and repeats it. sure you could try other devices and all. (& i have no experience w/ software route...others like it & get good results of course) the one thing i sort of hated about the rc units is that the loops are static, you can't play w/ them, w/ pitchshifting them or slow down/speed up. but there is a way to cheat w/ this-put a delay in front of it and have delay fun (think tommy bolin echoplex madness for fun, or you could think more of the fripp soundscapes he created w/ early tape loops)...there is so much you can do w/ delays before it. just a suggestion. as for loop length and mastering time stuff, well, that takes time and practice, as a friend of mine who's a professional singer/songwriter says: YOU ALWAYS NEED TO WORK ON TIMING, it's a never ending process.... i would also recommend reading the david torn musings/suggestions on looping that's in the archives, it's from GP back in the 90s. i still think he talks about a lot of good suggestions for process on looping. the devices may change and may be limited, but the approach to how you explore is the same. honestly, i still think my best stuff, is when i would mess w/ the 2 sec delays on my old digitech rp100, glitch it all up and feed it to my basic sampler on my old dod d12. i had a simple setup and just explored and explored....need to do that more.... good luck & happy hunting... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --001636426603982fd2049a717f80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi-welcome to the list.
here are my comments, they are general, not probably real specific to = the rc2.
i think the 1st thing you need to realize, is there is no ONE MAGIC LO= OP DEVICE FOR ANY ONE PERSON.
i had a boss rc20 until a little over a yr ago (this is the original o= ne that had 5 min of recording time, not the XL model), had it for probably= a bit over a yr. loved it at times, hated it at other times. i most liked = the ability to do reverse, which i don't think the rc2 can do.
this is sort of my take on loopers-YOU HAVE TO FEED IT THINGS, it take= s your playing and repeats it.
sure you could try other devices and all.=A0 (& i have no experien= ce w/ software route...others like it & get good results of course)
the one thing i sort of hated about the rc units is that the loops are= static, you can't play w/ them, w/ pitchshifting them or slow down/spe= ed up.
but there is a way to cheat w/ this-put a delay in front of it and hav= e delay fun (think tommy bolin echoplex madness for fun, or you could=A0thi= nk more of the=A0fripp=A0soundscapes he created w/=A0early tape loops)...th= ere is so much you can do w/ delays before it.
just a suggestion.
as for loop=A0length and mastering time stuff, well, that takes time a= nd practice,
as a friend of mine who's a professional singer/songwriter says: Y= OU ALWAYS NEED TO WORK ON TIMING, it's=A0 a never ending process....=A0=
=A0
i would also recommend reading the david torn musings/suggestions on l= ooping that's in the archives, it's from GP back in the 90s. i stil= l think he talks about a lot of good suggestions for process on looping. th= e devices may change and may be limited, but the approach to how you explor= e is the same.
honestly, i still think my best stuff, is when i would mess w/ the 2 s= ec delays on my old digitech rp100, glitch it all up and feed it to my basi= c sampler on my old dod d12. i had a simple setup and just explored and exp= lored....need to do that more....
good luck & happy hunting...
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--001636426603982fd2049a717f80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 16:27:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C77C18347E; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0ocOl7JsCfQuaKyeV6toTeQKk2xeVFfYTDY/m/WJydM=; b=embaogIA3N93k9v5NJp0d5mJSBXVF1Z94QRuNHXdlpuuJnR/AchFWBR2bHxkJMFJgY SOYUEPPsMg2RghKnWCxIrGWUak993J7b6wbL/caBZY96m07IsfwCiI1fRbDTFn1ELN+i JEmbzoqdlhUlE/8LpNUU2bKpXtBNH/N3wn2yA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fcTeBeQ9kKkOh1HuX/wJAHpRyWFjiJ0ecfI5bEjr7DHMW2xOuFJ/jBVR4aOo5kfm7T Fdz5QyEPNKNcftyC8mOKhadIh0NXZ51xWTDDrlSMKi0KHCguNXuMW6PfEm/jZNaOfZvf +2AL/pVcnSDLTYNvvXILz1SGEQgKhMGYI0WNA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:27:04 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: semi-OT: practice amp for looping From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6deddd357e811049a71d617 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6deddd357e811049a71d617 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi ben- here's my recommendation- i do mostly guitar loops, occasionally use my drum machine, use to feed it random stuff recorded from small digital voice recorder (searching for a new one of these for simple recording....) as a guitarist, i've owned one small tube amp in my life (kustom tube 12A-ok, didn't love, still have)...to my ear, guitar amps are just so MID-RANGEY. now i realize that most guitarists love this sound, and of course all the classic guitarists, i love their sound (and chased it too long....endless, although i always went gtr, since i didn't want to spend a fortune on amps). a few yrs ago when my 50 watt SS amp died & the repair i paid double the price of the original amp for, didn't last more than 9 mo's. i decided to go small cheap, had little 10 watt marshall (ok), then got the kustom above (ok), but i found that for me, the tiny speakers, just SUCK! now i don't play loud at all at home in my studio, and i honestly don't know the size of the speaker of my old 50 watt amps (probably 10", might have been 12"), after 2 yrs of small amps and hating them, i decided to start a hunt. Jeff Duke uses a portable PA system amp in a bunch of his vids & I F***ING loved his sounds, but it's a newish amp still, and couldn't find any for under 200 beans (i'm a budget guy). so about a yr & 1/2 ago i found a Fender Keyboard 60 amp at a local pawn shop (my fave pawn shop that i bought a million guitars from closed back in '05, sadly), did some research, saw a few people on harmony-central used them for gtr, i tested the amp at the place w/ some crappy guitar there & it sounded ok. got it home, feed it my system & setup, AND I LOVE IT. it's very clean, which i like (this probably comes out of the nels cline model-clean amp, dirt from pedals), but i think the range of sounds is much greater than a guitar amp , to my ear. i like the distortion to come from my pedals, and i like digital distortion (this probably puts me out of the running for "guitar purist/tone snob" category). but i like the sound of it. actually i hate playing direct now, which i would always do when i was obsessively recording things a few yrs ago, i used to favor my direct sound over my "live in studio sound"but not anymore. so i think keyboard amps are great, or at least i like my Fender Keyboard 60 amp. it's the only fender thing i've ever owned in my 28 yrs of playing.... my setup: homemade gtr-digitech rp150-fuzz machine (fuzz factory clone)-way huge swollen pickle-digitech dl8-EH 16ddl ri-boss slicer-behringer tweakalizer-lexicon mx200-out to my fender keyboard 60 amp. oh, i have no idea how old it is, i got it for $105, i don't use the reverb on it, and i never mess w/ the tone knobs on it-i think i have everything tone wise on 10. i keep the volume a bit low, so i don't blow out the house,it has some bottom end when i crank it. i can make the house rattle a bit, have to do that when everyone is gone....ha... happy hunting.... -IT IS F***ING HEAVY, i would hate to move the thing around for gigging, your back would be shot moving it.....mine stays put... the new(ish) songs posted to my myspace thing are loop experiments recorded live w/ the fender amp to my fostex digital recorder , from a while ago..... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Ruelle Benoit wrote: > Hello, > I'm sure I'll get some good advice from the looping community so even if > it's a bit OT, i'll ask. > > I'm searching a small amp to practice at home. Something under 150$ and I > think that with 15W, it will be enough. > I investigated something like the fender mustang, the line6 spider or > roland cube but I'll use this mainly for looping and it would be nice to > have a solution where I can overdub differents sounds with different FX. > > As I won't find any amp with an FX loop in this price range and i already > have some amp modelling tool ( zoom G2 and Johnson J-Station), would it be > OK to buy a keyboard amp instead. The range will be wider and I can also us > it to loop bass/synth and voice. Any inputs regarding this solution? Any > proposal? I already tested putting my J-sation into my home HiFi but I don't > get the response I expect from a guitar amp. It seems to lack some > compression and I don't get the "oomph" that I can get even with a very low > budget amp (think the squier you get with beginner pack). > > Thank you for any info; > > Ben. > --0016e6deddd357e811049a71d617 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi ben-
here's my recommendation-
i do mostly guitar loops, occasionally use my dr= um machine, use to feed it random stuff recorded from small digital voice r= ecorder (searching for a new one of these for simple recording....)
as a guitarist, i've owned one small tube am= p in my life (kustom tube 12A-ok, didn't love, still have)...to my ear,= guitar amps are just so MID-RANGEY.
now i realize that most guitarists love this sou= nd, and of course all the classic guitarists, i love their sound (and chase= d it too long....endless, although i always went gtr, since
i didn't want to spend a fortune on amps). a= few yrs ago when my 50 watt SS amp died & the repair i paid double the= price of the original amp for, didn't last more than 9 mo's. i dec= ided to go small cheap, had little 10 watt marshall (ok), then got the kust= om above (ok), but i found that for me, the tiny speakers, just SUCK! now i= don't play loud at all at home in my studio, and i honestly don't = know the size of the speaker of my old 50 watt amps (probably 10", mig= ht have been 12"), after 2 yrs of small amps and hating them, i decide= d to start a hunt. Jeff Duke uses a portable PA system amp in a bunch of hi= s=A0vids & I F***ING loved his sounds, but it's a newish amp still,= and couldn't find any for under 200 beans (i'm a budget guy). so a= bout a yr & 1/2 ago i found a Fender Keyboard 60 amp at a local pawn sh= op (my fave pawn shop that i bought a million guitars from closed back in &= #39;05, sadly), did some research, saw a few people on harmony-central used= them for gtr, i tested the amp at the place w/ some crappy guitar there &a= mp; it sounded ok. got it home, feed it my system & setup,=A0 AND I LOV= E IT. it's very clean, which i like (this probably comes out of the nel= s cline model-clean amp, dirt from pedals), but i think the range of sounds= is much greater than a guitar amp , to my ear. i like the distortion to co= me from my pedals, and i like digital distortion (this probably puts me out= of the running for "guitar purist/tone snob" category). but i li= ke the sound of it. actually i hate playing direct now, which i would alway= s do when i was obsessively recording things a few yrs ago, i used to favor= my direct sound over my "live in studio=A0 sound"but not anymore= .
so i think keyboard amps are great, or at least = i like my Fender Keyboard 60 amp. it's the only fender thing i've e= ver owned in my 28 yrs of playing....
my setup: homemade gtr-digitech rp150-fuzz machi= ne (fuzz factory clone)-way huge swollen pickle-digitech dl8-EH 16ddl ri-bo= ss slicer-behringer tweakalizer-lexicon mx200-out to my fender keyboard 60 = amp.
oh, i have no idea how old it is, i got it for $= 105, i don't=A0 use the reverb on it, and i never mess w/ the tone knob= s on it-i think i have everything tone wise on 10. i keep the volume a bit = low, so i don't blow out the house,it has some bottom end when i crank = it. i can make the house rattle a bit, have to do that when everyone is gon= e....ha...
happy hunting....
-IT IS F***ING HEAVY, i would hate to move the t= hing around for gigging, your back would be shot moving it.....mine stays p= ut...
the new(ish) songs posted to my myspace thing ar= e loop experiments recorded live w/ the fender amp=A0to my fostex=A0digital= =A0recorder , from a while ago.....
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w= ww.myspace.com/scotthansen
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Ruelle Benoit <= span dir=3D"ltr"><benoitruelle@= yahoo.fr> wrote:
Hello,
I'm sure I'll = get some good advice from the looping community so even if it's a bit O= T, i'll ask.

I'm searching a small amp to practice at home. Something under 150$= and I think that with 15W, it will be enough.
I investigated something = like the fender mustang, the line6 spider or roland cube but I'll use t= his mainly for looping and =A0it would be nice to have a solution where I c= an overdub differents sounds with different FX.

As I won't find any amp with an FX loop in this price range and i a= lready have some amp modelling tool ( zoom G2 and Johnson J-Station), would= it be OK to buy a keyboard amp instead. The range will be wider and I can = also us it to loop bass/synth and voice. Any inputs regarding this solution= ? Any proposal? I already tested putting my J-sation into my home HiFi but = I don't get the response I expect from a guitar amp. It seems to lack s= ome compression and I don't get the "oomph" that I can get ev= en with a very low budget amp (think the squier you get with beginner pack)= .

Thank you for any info;

Ben.
--0016e6deddd357e811049a71d617-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 17:51:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12F21183480; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 561076181/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.218/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.218 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYBAFqnOk1V0rva/2dsb2JhbAAMlkbMHoVQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,363,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="561076181" Message-ID: <4D3B193A.5070104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:51:54 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Introductin & naive questions References: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> <4D3AEE6D.6010707@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D3AEE6D.6010707@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:51:39 +0000 (UTC) > As for the first feature (from record directly to overdub): > Things that can do it: EDP (of course), Line6 DL4 (and I would assume > the M9, M13 and HD500 as well), Electrix Repeater newer software > versions (they didn't have that in the initial release) and anything > that is a delay used as a looper (so the Boss DD20 in delay mode can do > it). Looperlative LP1 Looperlative LP2 > Things that can't: EH SMM w/Hazari, first version of Akai headrush, Boss > DD20 in looper ("Sound on Sound") mode. > Don't know about all the Boss RC devices - perhaps somebody else can > offer info. and Boomerang? A common configuration is to have two switches called Rec/Dub and Play/Stop. In that case ending your recording by pressing Rec/Dub would be expected to put you straight into overdub. (and ending with Play/Stop plays back without Overdub) > > For the second feature (auto-starting record when going to a new loop). > keep: > Things that can do it: EDP (configurable), DD20 (in delay mode - well, > sort of). Looperlative LP1 > Things that can't: everything which doesn't offer multiple loops > obviously, Electrix Repeater. > > replace: > Things that can do it: EDP, DD20 (in delay mode - well, sort of). Looperlative LP1 (but needs programming of button) > Things that can't: Line6 DL4 (unless you can live with first stopping > the running loop and then immediately start recording), EH SMM w/Hazari. afaik Looperlative LP2 is modelled on DL4 in this respect. wasn't there another question "The other thing is, it seems there should be a very easy way to stop one loop and start another with one click." EDP yes Looperlative LP1 yes(once button is correctly programmed for each track you want to jump to) Boomerang afaik yes andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 18:04:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 914A4183482; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+N1c7hK/MQ6b+1BLDkEmyshTpuLOGqaosjtQS3B55iE=; b=HSFM3GnfJQwdkUepKKxUMISnCTkD+EC+uFX1nZhxVgofAfw2bqp4T59bNEfrLv8pJM lBLXT/9cG2QfBxX7TUY6b6Pyj1ZcXyPV2YB5sS6EFaZnvCd1EGi845U9Bl2BJHXVDUf5 EuRa4mWF4JtnMVdErx6HQd+0zFcly3rv6tVRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H+FGm+s8PlmojkZw/F+XOHBTajyCIgmD5+/3BzRsqhXBeUiMh0+BZXsSr94WqxCbK9 LwQVTXKf8xSreSNK+5lW80O4lzKGD5sJZdb0C6pVW9L2UXKPuZA2lPe15/5jP37SC5F4 XX17thCj4azitvFMRMjKPa8cfeCsik+f+QjH0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <33CC1B5B-AC39-4B8F-A118-D52DAF9643AE@baymoon.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:04:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: M9/M13/HD500 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0oS72.A._AG.bwxONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Hey Petri, you got that one right amigo, the JamManager sucks big dirty ass! I just updated the firmware after you told me thanx,i havent messed wit it yet but but previously it accepted all of my acid wav. files without a problem i hope it sill does! the thing is ok, i wish those switches werent so loud thou, find it a bit ackward and limited but i use it to resample loops from my M9 and the the stereo feature is what makes it have a place in my pedalboard,i dont want to carry my EDPs or any other rack stuff for pub gigs you know. Let me know if u have any interestin tips,what kind of backup tracks are us= ing? On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Hi Luis > > So you have the new Jamman Stereo? > > I have it too, thought no-one on this list uses it...=A0 :-) > > Have you updated the firmware / whats your opinion on JamManager software= ? > IMHO it sucks ass, big time. > It only accepts wav's that I've processed and saved with audacity, someth= ing > to do with the file format, havent solved it yet. > Been saving my backing tracks with audacity, and the JamManager seems to > accept them. > > I had a hell of a headache with that when I did my backing tracks on Cuba= se, > then saved them to normal PCM 44100 16-bit wav's and that damn thing woul= dnt > accept them,=A8 > have you had these problems? > > -Petri- > > > 2011/1/22 Louie Angulo >> >> Bill i never really understood either why stereo looping =A0was so impor= tant >> But now that i have the new digitech stereo looper,man it does make a >> difference specially when you loop the stereo fx the line 6 m9 has to >> offer. >> I know for us guitarrists is maybe not always that important, but >> Sjaak does beautiful dreamy synth soundscapes where space and dimesion >> is crucial >> I remember listening to him and being lost in his sound, it sounded >> huge and it would be a pity to sacrifice his signal =A0with a mono >> looper;-) >> Luis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:44 AM, William Walker >> wrote: >> > The HD has a mono in (actually an extra aux in as well but not meant f= or >> > stereo apps) , it does have a =A0stereo out, can't say about the loope= r >> > though >> > I assume its mono, I can't for the life of me see how this is terribly >> > important unless it was a true stereo multi track looper =A0like the L= P-1 >> > and >> > you wanted to pan tracks in the stereo field, or you have a stereo >> > output >> > like I assume you do Sjaak and you needed to preserve your imaging. >> > stereo >> > =A0is =A0great for =A0studio mix down =A0but in a live situation it ca= n cause >> > you >> > phase cancellation issues where, unless you are standing in a sweet >> > spot, >> > you might stop being able to hear a crucial element of your mix like >> > something rhythmic you need to hear. =A0If you gotta have panning or >> > stereo >> > imaging this is a workaround: =A0I use an M-9, but I rarely use anythi= ng >> > other >> > than delays of various types, =A0and the occasional specialty reverbs, >> > ring >> > modulator, or filters , so I park the looper in front of other effects >> > so i >> > can reprocess it with stereo delays (or any of the M-9's stereo >> > modulation >> > effects or panners ) =A0and send it in stereo to =A0the LP-1, then res= ample >> > if i >> > want . =A0Problem solved >> > >> > Bill >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 18:16:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE1A1183484; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: Introductin & naive questions Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:16:49 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:16:54 +0000 (UTC) > On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:17 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > BTW is there any tutorial or manual anywhere online for Mobius? It is = pretty daunting. The Mobius docs are available here... http://www.circularlabs.com/documentation/documentation.html =20 Start with "Getting Started With Mobius". Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 18:44:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54328183480; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XAbmgZFcDpUm8OmHddO6vbFhm3qkrNw6iFlH3vUd1iU=; b=dkWlcgXcq6L+j1fljUukquYc+jVHc+bdEgU5qw3ecoNmeCIdxwIKDvwLAd6Ha0hKa9 4BulGiJyjTMsyc2LjBM3Mod85w8NwWRUDjCA3DUD3XGCjXmOJi3tNJuNoKbJZjVFezYU zjXs1oJq0JKk1bnVYvcdLAdgtFpO1KiRImvO0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xoo7fftLNRlPsatoPUfqHuNByelWbkEGANkxekydRC1g8CyRh24B3df2Fe1ojFThjm jA1Puo/xRCOHQgh/iIXHdyFU7d7n2rGm+ANkfL/GHB1Xck7SGfvWcjAWra00eQ1ZEx8t qq4MtF1kwTmbdp6+dgL+DxGe+GNArfQNRT1OU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3B193A.5070104@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> <4D3AEE6D.6010707@googlemail.com> <4D3B193A.5070104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:44:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Introductin & naive questions From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8eee7b62f7049a73c159 Resent-Message-ID: <51JayC.A.fuH.JWyONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:44:25 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8eee7b62f7049a73c159 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Record to overdub, the EH 2880 can do this also. j On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:51 PM, andy butler wrote: > > As for the first feature (from record directly to overdub): >> Things that can do it: EDP (of course), Line6 DL4 (and I would assume the >> M9, M13 and HD500 as well), Electrix Repeater newer software versions (they >> didn't have that in the initial release) and anything that is a delay used >> as a looper (so the Boss DD20 in delay mode can do it). >> > > Looperlative LP1 > Looperlative LP2 > > Things that can't: EH SMM w/Hazari, first version of Akai headrush, Boss >> DD20 in looper ("Sound on Sound") mode. >> Don't know about all the Boss RC devices - perhaps somebody else can offer >> info. >> > > and Boomerang? > > > A common configuration is to have two switches called > Rec/Dub > and Play/Stop. > In that case ending your recording by pressing Rec/Dub would > be expected to put you straight into overdub. > (and ending with Play/Stop plays back without Overdub) > > > >> For the second feature (auto-starting record when going to a new loop). >> keep: >> Things that can do it: EDP (configurable), DD20 (in delay mode - well, >> sort of). >> > Looperlative LP1 > >> Things that can't: everything which doesn't offer multiple loops >> obviously, Electrix Repeater. >> >> replace: >> Things that can do it: EDP, DD20 (in delay mode - well, sort of). >> > Looperlative LP1 (but needs programming of button) > >> Things that can't: Line6 DL4 (unless you can live with first stopping the >> running loop and then immediately start recording), EH SMM w/Hazari. >> > > afaik Looperlative LP2 is modelled on DL4 in this respect. > > > wasn't there another question > > "The other thing is, it seems there should be a very easy way to stop one > loop and start another with one click." > > EDP yes > Looperlative LP1 yes(once button is correctly programmed for each track you > want to jump to) > Boomerang afaik yes > > > andy > --90e6ba6e8eee7b62f7049a73c159 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Record to overdub, the EH 2880 can do this also.

j

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:51 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk<= /a>> wrote:

As for the first feature (from record directly to overdub):
Things that can do it: EDP (of course), Line6 DL4 (and I would assume the M= 9, M13 and HD500 as well), Electrix Repeater newer software versions (they = didn't have that in the initial release) and anything that is a delay u= sed as a looper (so the Boss DD20 in delay mode can do it).

Looperlative LP1
Looperlative LP2

Things that can't: EH SMM w/Hazari, first version of Akai headrush, Bos= s DD20 in looper ("Sound on Sound") mode.
Don't know about all the Boss RC devices - perhaps somebody else can of= fer info.

and Boomerang?


A common configuration is to have two switches called
Rec/Dub
and Play/Stop.
In that case ending your recording by pressing Rec/Dub would
be expected to put you straight into overdub.
(and ending with Play/Stop plays back without Overdub)



For the second feature (auto-starting record when going to a new loop).
keep:
Things that can do it: EDP (configurable), DD20 (in delay mode - well, sort= of).
Looperlative LP1
Things that can't: everything which doesn't offer multiple loops ob= viously, Electrix Repeater.

replace:
Things that can do it: EDP, DD20 (in delay mode - well, sort of).
Looperlative LP1 (but needs programming of button)
Things that can't: Line6 DL4 (unless you can live with first stopping t= he running loop and then immediately start recording), EH SMM w/Hazari.

afaik Looperlative LP2 is modelled on DL4 in this respect.


wasn't there another question

"The other thing is, it seems there should be a very easy way to stop = one loop and start another with one click."

EDP yes
Looperlative LP1 yes(once button is correctly programmed for each track you= want to jump to)
Boomerang =A0afaik yes


andy

--90e6ba6e8eee7b62f7049a73c159-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 19:41:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4860018345D; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=15lR3oKlypdPVs/FlGn87rAl2isIyRMhpSlslc5lL0M=; b=O1maxn6sS6Sx+YW/rCJAR9pFXV5MTeyQqHrQv2cymBoqkoWuAgdLdwYZaOea4IUo+i uEL8HQi3wUqK195dWYHMSkUJvj8B8gbInm8DGjVwvF9xdBQewBFtBJdGnNZSJgvWhA2b z+j3v1FJDYKKRH+x0D0l2zxkZQ0t1SgVpNwVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JHSPOpWXx/lb+XIYiz4Cls/+nDxPLwcxRQKNiBI6TDCYr03GPAIAoOUr8pqMycSGwg jSYUCdqaDVeyPSRFes0+G2CgeecKhSBimoftV+v8Qo5GsEbWitEQ85bDBv/w8kL1YJNU oA7tF0YiZzhLI0FvF477ZCru9LJb+VRHvSIbY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D2097A2.1040704@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D2097A2.1040704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:41:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Todd Lainhart To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bf27e04200f049a748cec Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:41:04 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bf27e04200f049a748cec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 That's all real-time, right? Man, you know how to play that thing. Excellent. On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:20 AM, andy butler wrote: > > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/backwater.mp3 > ...loop window opens at 2:00 > > > > --0015174bf27e04200f049a748cec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's all real-time, right? =C2=A0Man, you know how to play that thing= . =C2=A0Excellent.

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at= 10:20 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


h= ttp://www.andybutler.com/mp3/backwater.mp3
...loop window opens at 2:00




--0015174bf27e04200f049a748cec-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 20:01:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E1EA18345D; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=FcAFIstCAAAA:8 a=5Cu6IO8iAAAA:8 a=pXzSSEOALU5dqehSdicA:9 a=R7_Ii1KR9pghaIejyzmIZDrQIGMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=5uOeDl6JRscA:10 a=NV0LgFqsyRYA:10 Message-Id: <1F049941-8621-4AAC-A857-FE080BD918F2@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:01:53 -0800 References: <4D2097A2.1040704@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Always enjoyed that disc. On Jan 22, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Todd Lainhart wrote: > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:20 AM, andy butler > wrote: > > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/backwater.mp3 > ...loop window opens at 2:00 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 20:19:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BF3218345D; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8LBO58Pw9CSp2s6K+2L1kjvxCCAjxceBFUNcZK0TS2c=; b=PUu2Ln4Y8S7tvHSloX6XC+tVuoFIzn38dzx6ZYxwJ1iO/eJKbSbr+FmS5oEScyTPrT 6HG2kFeiD7CQYxYkC+m3P4T9Db12TH0zj9TwRj4pBI4tfH52iN04Wr11VTJj70p+KLlm M7CE7WlKGMTi4nq9NBguosGngSgxhUwdk1BT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mcIwRHY8NjSRYGXbSBiBFb24qGFERMnQzn/sT81trO9kMHI3sATKeriKm50r7wGvRp y2dkrou+OywcbcArspUzXlihfnqOBsztl/stQirejgiI8TbnDN6Vmn6g339s/6z165Hd kyTbQ+2nYoCim93H+Qt2ElE2S4M8qSRwfpZMo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <33CC1B5B-AC39-4B8F-A118-D52DAF9643AE@baymoon.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:19:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: M9/M13/HD500 From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b39c743d5d049a75157e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:19:30 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b39c743d5d049a75157e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Louie I'm such a novice in this field still... not much of a tip-giver...! Do you have any diagram of your setup, or picture online? Sounds interesting, your setup I mean. I'm thinking about adding a multi-effects-disaster-board to my setup, M9 or something similar. I have Vocalist Live 3 -> feeding vocals and guitar through that to JamMan Stereo... I use these kind of backing tracks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKEg0rlZAPfc Just basic foundations to build loops upon. -Petri- 2011/1/22 Louie Angulo > Hey Petri, > you got that one right amigo, the JamManager sucks big dirty ass! > I just updated the firmware after you told me thanx,i havent messed > wit it yet but but previously it accepted all of my acid wav. files > without a problem > i hope it sill does! > the thing is ok, i wish those switches werent so loud thou, find it a > bit ackward and limited but i use it to resample loops from my M9 and > the the stereo feature is what makes it have a place in my > pedalboard,i dont want to carry my EDPs or any other rack stuff for > pub gigs you know. > Let me know if u have any interestin tips,what kind of backup tracks are > using? > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > > Hi Luis > > > > So you have the new Jamman Stereo? > > > > I have it too, thought no-one on this list uses it... :-) > > > > Have you updated the firmware / whats your opinion on JamManager > software? > > IMHO it sucks ass, big time. > > It only accepts wav's that I've processed and saved with audacity, > something > > to do with the file format, havent solved it yet. > > Been saving my backing tracks with audacity, and the JamManager seems t= o > > accept them. > > > > I had a hell of a headache with that when I did my backing tracks on > Cubase, > > then saved them to normal PCM 44100 16-bit wav's and that damn thing > wouldnt > > accept them,=A8 > > have you had these problems? > > > > -Petri- > > > > > > 2011/1/22 Louie Angulo > >> > >> Bill i never really understood either why stereo looping was so > important > >> But now that i have the new digitech stereo looper,man it does make a > >> difference specially when you loop the stereo fx the line 6 m9 has to > >> offer. > >> I know for us guitarrists is maybe not always that important, but > >> Sjaak does beautiful dreamy synth soundscapes where space and dimesion > >> is crucial > >> I remember listening to him and being lost in his sound, it sounded > >> huge and it would be a pity to sacrifice his signal with a mono > >> looper;-) > >> Luis > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:44 AM, William Walker < > billwalker@baymoon.com> > >> wrote: > >> > The HD has a mono in (actually an extra aux in as well but not meant > for > >> > stereo apps) , it does have a stereo out, can't say about the loope= r > >> > though > >> > I assume its mono, I can't for the life of me see how this is terrib= ly > >> > important unless it was a true stereo multi track looper like the > LP-1 > >> > and > >> > you wanted to pan tracks in the stereo field, or you have a stereo > >> > output > >> > like I assume you do Sjaak and you needed to preserve your imaging. > >> > stereo > >> > is great for studio mix down but in a live situation it can caus= e > >> > you > >> > phase cancellation issues where, unless you are standing in a sweet > >> > spot, > >> > you might stop being able to hear a crucial element of your mix like > >> > something rhythmic you need to hear. If you gotta have panning or > >> > stereo > >> > imaging this is a workaround: I use an M-9, but I rarely use anythi= ng > >> > other > >> > than delays of various types, and the occasional specialty reverbs, > >> > ring > >> > modulator, or filters , so I park the looper in front of other effec= ts > >> > so i > >> > can reprocess it with stereo delays (or any of the M-9's stereo > >> > modulation > >> > effects or panners ) and send it in stereo to the LP-1, then > resample > >> > if i > >> > want . Problem solved > >> > > >> > Bill > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------- > > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Frip= p- > > --------------------------------------------------- > > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > > -Charles Bukowski- > > > > > > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --00151747b39c743d5d049a75157e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Louie

I'm such a novice in this field still... not much of a = tip-giver...!

Do you have any diagram of your setup, or picture onli= ne?
Sounds interesting, your setup I mean. I'm thinking about adding= a multi-effects-disaster-board to my setup, M9 or something similar.
I have Vocalist Live 3 -> feeding vocals and guitar through that to JamM= an Stereo...
I use these kind of backing tracks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DK= Eg0rlZAPfc

Just basic foundations to build loops upon.

-Petri-


<= br>
2011/1/22 Louie Angulo <= louie.angulo@googlemail.com<= /a>>
Hey Petri,
you got that one right amigo, the JamManager sucks big dirty ass!
I just updated the firmware after you told me thanx,i havent messed
wit it yet but =A0but previously it accepted all of my acid wav. files
without a problem
i hope it sill does!
the thing is ok, i wish those switches werent so loud thou, find it a
bit ackward and limited but i use it to resample loops from my M9 and
the the stereo feature is what makes it have a place in my
pedalboard,i dont want to carry my EDPs or any other rack stuff for
pub gigs you know.
Let me know if u have any interestin tips,what kind of backup tracks are us= ing?








On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Luis
>
> So you have the new Jamman Stereo?
>
> I have it too, thought no-one on this list uses it...=A0 :-)
>
> Have you updated the firmware / whats your opinion on JamManager softw= are?
> IMHO it sucks ass, big time.
> It only accepts wav's that I've processed and saved with audac= ity, something
> to do with the file format, havent solved it yet.
> Been saving my backing tracks with audacity, and the JamManager seems = to
> accept them.
>
> I had a hell of a headache with that when I did my backing tracks on C= ubase,
> then saved them to normal PCM 44100 16-bit wav's and that damn thi= ng wouldnt
> accept them,=A8
> have you had these problems?
>
> -Petri-
>
>
> 2011/1/22 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>>
>> Bill i never really understood either why stereo looping =A0was so= important
>> But now that i have the new digitech stereo looper,man it does mak= e a
>> difference specially when you loop the stereo fx the line 6 m9 has= to
>> offer.
>> I know for us guitarrists is maybe not always that important, but<= br> >> Sjaak does beautiful dreamy synth soundscapes where space and dime= sion
>> is crucial
>> I remember listening to him and being lost in his sound, it sounde= d
>> huge and it would be a pity to sacrifice his signal =A0with a mono=
>> looper;-)
>> Luis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:44 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
>> wrote:
>> > The HD has a mono in (actually an extra aux in as well but no= t meant for
>> > stereo apps) , it does have a =A0stereo out, can't say ab= out the looper
>> > though
>> > I assume its mono, I can't for the life of me see how thi= s is terribly
>> > important unless it was a true stereo multi track looper =A0l= ike the LP-1
>> > and
>> > you wanted to pan tracks in the stereo field, or you have a s= tereo
>> > output
>> > like I assume you do Sjaak and you needed to preserve your im= aging.
>> > stereo
>> > =A0is =A0great for =A0studio mix down =A0but in a live situat= ion it can cause
>> > you
>> > phase cancellation issues where, unless you are standing in a= sweet
>> > spot,
>> > you might stop being able to hear a crucial element of your m= ix like
>> > something rhythmic you need to hear. =A0If you gotta have pan= ning or
>> > stereo
>> > imaging this is a workaround: =A0I use an M-9, but I rarely u= se anything
>> > other
>> > than delays of various types, =A0and the occasional specialty= reverbs,
>> > ring
>> > modulator, or filters , so I park the looper in front of othe= r effects
>> > so i
>> > can reprocess it with stereo delays (or any of the M-9's = stereo
>> > modulation
>> > effects or panners ) =A0and send it in stereo to =A0the LP-1,= then resample
>> > if i
>> > want . =A0Problem solved
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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> Petri Lahtinen
> http://www.= petrilahtinen.com
> http:= //petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
> http= ://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
> http://= twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
> http:= //petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
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> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -= Robert Fripp-
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> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must = lead."
> -Charles Bukowski-
>
>




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http://ww= w.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--00151747b39c743d5d049a75157e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 20:38:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E96518345C; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3B403D.3040505@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:38:21 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for January 22, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:38:25 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110122.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #190 January 22, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Nemesis Intro Live Archive Vol. 2 (none) Nemesis Sky Archeologist * Live Archive Vol. 2 (none) Dan Pound Always On the Run Wolf Moon (Pound Sounds) Create Running Out of Time We Live By the Machines (Groove) VA [Alman Mula Band] (no title given) Sequences No. 12 VA [Divine Soma Icaro Sequences No. 12 Experience] VA [Heretic] (no title given) Sequences No. 12 Stephen Parsick Cambrium Cambrium, Music for Protozoa (Doombient) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== David Braid with Resolute Bay Part 1 Spirit Dance (Opening Day) the Canadian Brass Kathryn Kaye Time Moving Slowly Dreaming Still (none) Rick Cutler Measuring Eternity First Melancholy Then the Night Stretch (none) David Lanz London Skies Liverpool (Moon Boy) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Genesis Supper's Ready Foxtrot (Atlantic) K2 Encounter or Absence Black Garden (Magna Carta) Cloverseeds The Opening The Opening (Laser's Edge) Ark Hagley Wild Untamed Imaginings (Progrock) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 21:17:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB83B18345D; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3B4951.9060705@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:17:05 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Walker CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: glitchy References: <3376CB29-DD27-4633-AD23-CE604918DCA2@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <3376CB29-DD27-4633-AD23-CE604918DCA2@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:17:12 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > To glitch or not to glitch that is the question, My brand new stutter > bomb arrived from loopmaster today and I must say I am really > dissapointed. Like the dual momentary switch I bought from > loopmaster a few months back , the switches on this pedal, though > momentary, have the feel and the audible click of a standard latching > switch... Not unlike the TC G switch I bought a few years ago as well. > Whats up with that? Not only does this stutter bomb have an audible > click it also has an audible crackle as well which is noticeable when > looping , particularly clean tones. Its a simple passive switch in a > tiny metal chassis and perhaps it has a static charge issue, but this > is one instance when I wish I had read reviews first, $30 I may not > get back. Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb I'll go back to using my old korg > tuner with a boss fs-u switch connected to the mute jack for > stu-u-uttt-tt-ter--ing. > Bill Thanks, Bill, when I saw you with it yesterday I was jealous and already began scheming how to raise 30 bucks to buy one. Sorry it sucks. Your FS-U controlling a Korg Tuner, however, is really a cool effect for stuttering.........just more gear! rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 21:26:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0646C18345E; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3B4B72.3040103@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:26:10 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ANDY BUTLER CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative References: <1F049941-8621-4AAC-A857-FE080BD918F2@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <1F049941-8621-4AAC-A857-FE080BD918F2@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:26:17 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > Always enjoyed that disc. Me too!! ...... and Chris and I also use our Andy Butler, Live Looper coffee mug each and every day. You should go out and buy one or five. Are they still available, Andy? rick walker > >> >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 22 22:51:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4B3418345D; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0595322e-af6d-4c05-a800-581ea1152a73_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: m13 - m9 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:51:56 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net>,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2011 22:51:57.0367 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8DAE470:01CBBA86] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:51:58 +0000 (UTC) --_0595322e-af6d-4c05-a800-581ea1152a73_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm thinking of getting one of these for psychedelic/ambient textures=2C (i= n combination with laptop looping and special effects). I'm currently using Guitar rig 4 for this. =20 What's the verdict guys? Pro's and cons? =20 Peace =20 G = --_0595322e-af6d-4c05-a800-581ea1152a73_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm thinking of getting one of these for psychedelic/ambient textures=2C (i= n combination with laptop looping and special effects).
I'm currently using Guitar rig 4 for this.
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What's the verdict guys? Pro's and cons?
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= --_0595322e-af6d-4c05-a800-581ea1152a73_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 00:21:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6256518345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: glitchy References: <3376CB29-DD27-4633-AD23-CE604918DCA2@baymoon.com> <4D3B4951.9060705@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-19--392695831"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <4D3B4951.9060705@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <9FC08A36-F9D3-4E8F-A37E-BC73546DF018@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:21:23 -0500 Thread-Topic: glitchy Thread-Index: Acu6k4mpdUU77BvvThaQtVuYdf33lQ== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2011 00:21:55.0031 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A1D0E70:01CBBA93] Resent-Message-ID: <6HkwJC.A.SwG.lS3ONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:21:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-19--392695831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Maybe you can figure out how to get a morse code key to do stutter!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:17 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > > To glitch or not to glitch that is the question, My brand new stutter > > bomb arrived from loopmaster today and I must say I am really > > dissapointed. Like the dual momentary switch I bought from > > loopmaster a few months back , the switches on this pedal, though > > momentary, have the feel and the audible click of a standard latching > > switch... Not unlike the TC G switch I bought a few years ago as well. > > Whats up with that? Not only does this stutter bomb have an audible > > click it also has an audible crackle as well which is noticeable when > > looping , particularly clean tones. Its a simple passive switch in a > > tiny metal chassis and perhaps it has a static charge issue, but this > > is one instance when I wish I had read reviews first, $30 I may not > > get back. Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb I'll go back to using my old korg > > tuner with a boss fs-u switch connected to the mute jack for > > stu-u-uttt-tt-ter--ing. > > Bill > Thanks, Bill, when I saw you with it yesterday I was jealous and > already began scheming how to raise > 30 bucks to buy one. Sorry it sucks. Your FS-U controlling a Korg > Tuner, however, is really a cool > effect for stuttering.........just more gear! > > rick > --Apple-Mail-19--392695831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Maybe you can figure out how to get a morse code key to do stutter!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:17 PM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote:
> To glitch or not to glitch that is the question, My  brand new stutter
> bomb arrived from loopmaster today and I must say I am really
> dissapointed. Like  the dual momentary  switch I bought from 
> loopmaster a few months back , the switches on this pedal,  though
> momentary, have the feel and the audible click of a standard latching
> switch... Not unlike the TC G switch I bought a few years ago as well.
> Whats up with that? Not only does this stutter bomb have an audible
> click it also has an audible crackle as well which is noticeable when
> looping , particularly clean tones. Its a simple passive switch in a
> tiny metal chassis and perhaps it has a static charge issue, but this
> is one instance when I wish I had read reviews first, $30 I may not
> get back.  Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb I'll go back to using my old korg
> tuner with a boss fs-u switch connected to the mute jack for
> stu-u-uttt-tt-ter--ing.
> Bill
Thanks, Bill,   when I saw you with it yesterday I was jealous and
already began scheming how to raise
30 bucks to buy one.    Sorry it sucks.    Your FS-U controlling a Korg
Tuner, however, is really a cool
effect for stuttering.........just more gear!

rick

--Apple-Mail-19--392695831-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 03:22:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7716E18345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 03:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G6Lg+ptkFh7jEKUcQnJyTO8ANbHGINpEzT6mp/EpFzc=; b=Tx2AbbAByRno9fZO8fpgjT4fx3QSr9Mh+XoD8+mjZsX5W/EaabK2PO0aNcOj1q+xIC jTQHh2bjCjL6IjmPUh9MhHR8EwNARAYddq1ErAkFd6KdBKU8GvNq9SdYchjDosLixEhC ScPCbkgEx9dAIIbPWewJTcWjJUFQhAkDyY6OU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RVTZSKUyh9Q5qGcIzzPQRASNBshroEdnlfHidHLNFSpot8dliB/wHo8TgEEk7gz/2c yIjoEL8Wc5k3nhdHT3bRtG5UYLTNqZBBlv5qYCLRgCZmaw9hXhjLUnfvtftAYyLNQZf2 rN04bANndgFHzC+yYL+jPlt6chTkODOusv9bE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3AEE6D.6010707@googlemail.com> References: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> <4D3AEE6D.6010707@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:22:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Introductin & naive questions From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 03:22:22 +0000 (UTC) > Things that can't: everything which doesn't offer multiple loops obviousl= y, > Electrix Repeater. well, the repeater doesn't do multiple loops in the EDP or mobius sense of the term, but it does have four tracks per loop, which you can treat as for loops of the same length (just mute and un-mute to cue a 'loop'). There's also ways of copying a loop to the memory card and creating a new loop, then cuing that old loop (haven't played with that much, but I seem to recall it's possible?). You just need a fancy midi controller to make everything happen right. Sylvain On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Ed Durbrow schrieb: >> >> That doesn't sound too bad, if it is just a matter of choosing a command >> from a menu. What about on hardware loopers? Do most? some? few? offer t= hese >> features? > > I have to admit, I can't give you precise statistics, only those things I > know directly or have been studying somewhat: > As for the first feature (from record directly to overdub): > Things that can do it: EDP (of course), Line6 DL4 (and I would assume the > M9, M13 and HD500 as well), Electrix Repeater newer software versions (th= ey > didn't have that in the initial release) and anything that is a delay use= d > as a looper (so the Boss DD20 in delay mode can do it). > Things that can't: EH SMM w/Hazari, first version of Akai headrush, Boss > DD20 in looper ("Sound on Sound") mode. > Don't know about all the Boss RC devices - perhaps somebody else can offe= r > info. > > For the second feature (auto-starting record when going to a new loop). > I didn't ask specifically whether you meant that you want to record a new > loop and keep the old one (so as to be able to return to it later), or st= art > a new loop and discard the old one. So I'm gonna split this in two parts > ("keep" and "replace"): > keep: > Things that can do it: EDP (configurable), DD20 (in delay mode - well, so= rt > of). > Things that can't: everything which doesn't offer multiple loops obviousl= y, > Electrix Repeater. > > replace: > Things that can do it: EDP, DD20 (in delay mode - well, sort of). > Things that can't: Line6 DL4 (unless you can live with first stopping the > running loop and then immediately start recording), EH SMM w/Hazari. > > So, list members: care to complete this list, please? >> >> That is great. I can see there are some very knowledgeable people here. >> BTW is there any tutorial or manual anywhere online for Mobius? It is pr= etty >> daunting. > > Of course, there's the official documentation: > http://www.circularlabs.com/documentation/documentation.html > But I'm sure that some list members here have done some "getting started" > guides (in a more basic fashion) as well. >> >> Yes, good point. It depends on what you mean by experienced. :-) As you >> can see I'm very new to looping but I have some experience with audio/mi= di >> in a home recording studio environment. I've seen discussion about midi = sync >> and so on but I have no experience with it as far as looping goes. I can >> only imagine it is a good thing. > > Just had a look at your studio page - from that, it seems that you are in > fact somewhat experienced. > > One thing that changes with doing live processing with a computer as oppo= sed > to using it as a recorder/console is that the audio interface chain's > latency becomes a factor. > > There are several options regarding mobile audio/MIDI interfaces which wo= rk > fine. Personally, I use a TC Konnekt24D (which finally has advanced to a > point where the driver SW can be called acceptable). Everything by RME Au= dio > is usually a safe bet, and from what I heard, the same is true for most M= OTU > interfaces. For something more in the low-price range, both I and others > here have good experiences with the Presonus Firebox. > > But, as I usuallly say, just write down your exact requirements, and then > choose... > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 06:39:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1861518345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-217--370007210 Subject: Re: m13 - m9 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:39:32 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net>,,, Message-Id: <38C13F94-FDE3-46A7-8EA7-EB3F337BCAFE@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:39:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-217--370007210 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I'm thinking of getting one of these for psychedelic/ambient textures, = (in combination with laptop looping and special effects). > I'm currently using Guitar rig 4 for this. > =20 > What's the verdict guys? Pro's and cons? Very nice delays. The other effects are reasonably good but not that = psychedelic/ambient. Some interesting material in the filter models -- = e.g., random filters -- that might be interesting piped into a good = delay, but you would probably want to set this up on a parallel effects = loop which it isn't really set up to do. The Octo and Particle Verb = reverbs are interesting but not stunning. For ambience, I would probably check out the Eventide Pitchfactor and = Space pedals, but I haven't actually played with them. I'm coming to more deeply appreciate the Korg AM8000R again. Step = modulated phaser into pitch shifter with feedback into a fairly dense = delay makes for a great ambient background. (I can thank Mark Landman = for having programmed this stuff in before I bought mine from him. I = probably wouldn't have discovered it otherwise.) I actually like it so = much, I have two. However, I'm really only using one so I'm thinking I = should sell the second one. You have to be willing to deal with a rack = processor, but it's a stunning source of creative ambiences. Mark --Apple-Mail-217--370007210 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I'm = thinking of getting one of these for psychedelic/ambient textures, (in = combination with laptop looping and special effects).
I'm currently = using Guitar rig 4 for this.
 
What's the verdict guys? Pro's = and cons?

Very nice delays. = The other effects are reasonably good but not that psychedelic/ambient. = Some interesting material in the filter models -- e.g., random filters = -- that might be interesting piped into a good delay, but you would = probably want to set this up on a parallel effects loop which it isn't = really set up to do. The Octo and Particle Verb reverbs are interesting = but not stunning.

For ambience, = I would probably check out the Eventide Pitchfactor and Space pedals, = but I haven't actually played with them.

I'm = coming to more deeply appreciate the Korg AM8000R again. Step modulated = phaser into pitch shifter with feedback into a fairly dense delay makes = for a great ambient background. (I can thank Mark Landman for having = programmed this stuff in before I bought mine from him. I probably = wouldn't have discovered it otherwise.) I actually like it so much, = I have two. However, I'm really only using one so I'm thinking I should = sell the second one. You have to be willing to deal with a rack = processor, but it's a stunning source of creative = ambiences.

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-217--370007210-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 07:18:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20265183476; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tkvLqndd1f+nLpF301BLqLAle/nemEe5ks8ZOBw4Mtk=; b=eYQfs9tk/w0Z1MiX421DqOkmlCXxq/R8S9Wpj9CWQmrvG/6faDKncrYlvpYCa22WIR t+pA5AGgPeaxq21kDE5b/a39g5wL/fyCSF57I6H55Z/TXXJ0n3mlGGJJxJaUapN5Gc95 plfNNAtTc+cramfFEtoACBfw+BEY53wfJigd8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NLzmDlugSCUfBMCgBZXDwELXweVBma4KvgTjO5OO00FSm2ppYjvHveTHR1nyzg744o sKQPjoTDSij8LIIc/MXUcIGUuwTuWFZnH8CXW38Zd9XD9glU7L+8tJLy9x58sQsLADcp GPzAR1Rv90JthohVfoFt8gSgEYxefDDfryNQI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:18:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: a looping cover mashed From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2e99b2b64049a7e4bbc Resent-Message-ID: <47KnzD.A.7RH.dZ9ONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:18:54 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2e99b2b64049a7e4bbc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been using Mobius again and have done several pieces over the last wee= k with it, for the ImprovFriday community. One was real new territory for me= , doing a vocal 'looped' cover of Marley's 'No Woman No Cry'. I had been recently inspired by a version by a Swedish musician I found on YouTube named BaronK as well as my son playing the Foogies wonderful version of it = a lot. I did an a cappella version of it in Mobius using all the tracks and a couple of multiple loops within a track. I posted it this weekend and independent of it another musician in the community, Shane W. Cadman, recorded a really nice sparse acoustic piano piece. Steve Layton also of I= F who often remixes and mashes some of each weekend's work into new pieces took our two works and created this version which I was quite taken by. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4250358/layton_cadman_goodin_-_no_woman_no_cry.mp3 Come check out ImprovFriday some weekend btw, think you will dig it. Jim --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a2e99b2b64049a7e4bbc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been using Mobius again and have done several pieces over the last= week with it, for the ImprovFriday community. =A0One was real new territor= y for me, doing a vocal 'looped' cover of Marley's 'No Woma= n No Cry'. =A0I had been recently inspired by a version by a Swedish mu= sician I found on YouTube named BaronK as well as my son playing the Foogie= s wonderful version of it a lot.

I did an a cappella version of it in Mobius using all the tr= acks and a couple of multiple loops within a track. =A0I posted it this wee= kend and independent of it another musician in the community, Shane W. Cadm= an, recorded a really nice sparse acoustic piano piece. =A0Steve Layton als= o of IF who often remixes and mashes some of each weekend's work into n= ew pieces took our two works and created this version which I was quite tak= en by.


Come check out ImprovFriday = some weekend btw, think you will dig it.

Jim

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from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a2e99b2b64049a7e4bbc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 07:29:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19D07183476; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=L3HVMQQz/aTg9yOYMehwBNy40OjEg9agF/6WST9ma+k=; b=jz0oR9P6YGjYpZliR8Xx0tYRukDPFqh8lgBe51qK83QUMr3RpfMGTJ0tdydFl4G/65 MeMyK2KBfk7fO+V2laLdEnJSF4cDo4F/NTGVzBfv6cqwUGxayDqKtwGTjz1KHQWN2kl/ BCT0bec5DFMnduFmRH90i4WWGz8BmHSry3VWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ev9omRnusVtu2T8HUhToIgpHEkcCiw/paj8KdHtpwS+58NJD+sZx7finwp8+UPvHVQ bPPzELk7r4D8R26WkfGO8j1AqFTN9PyZF0qN3EHyGh5TyhMt9x4y/oOfJkq9d8rv6czZ FPNUy5f9XdzQLahiAXpO0464J/s55P0seoUXo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:29:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: also, from Y2K From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a34d386967049a7e7042 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:29:08 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a34d386967049a7e7042 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also this weekend I finally 'began' getting to some of the video from Y2KX that I shot and owe many of you footage. Video is so time consuming and with other projects that have seemed more immediate I have just backlogged getting the clips out but I will really try to start doing that soon. I know a couple of you have been in contact with me in recent months and have been incredibly patient, thank you. This all said, I unearthed and posted on YouTube the opening moments of Daryl and mine's Chinapainting set that Gaetano [Fontanazza] wonderfully captured for us. It's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYEj9bB3vFuc Special thanks to Gaetano for documenting us and many humble thanks to Rick for making the 10 year old brainchild of his such a wonderful event this past October. Jim --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a34d386967049a7e7042 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also this weekend I finally 'began' getting to some of the video fr= om Y2KX that I shot and owe many of you footage. =A0Video is so time consum= ing and with other projects that have seemed more immediate I have just bac= klogged getting the clips out but I will really try to start doing that soo= n. =A0I know a couple of you have been in contact with me in recent months = and have been incredibly patient, thank you.

This all said, I unearthed and posted on YouTube the opening= moments of Daryl and mine's Chinapainting set that Gaetano [Fontanazza= ] wonderfully captured for us. =A0It's at=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYEj9bB3vFuc<= /a>

Special thanks to Gaetano for documenting us and many humble thanks t= o Rick for making the 10 year old brainchild of his such a wonderful event = this past October.

Jim

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From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a34d386967049a7e7042-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 08:19:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 963D8183478; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:19:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=wN09mi3g5Wphj5XugPG+w6fPjUiluHHRtPE6excQIWc=; b=ZQyYdHwKM5CwlIHelZRjt2eI8V4KVNbIrxEF39SvlVq1JGwT0SSTwmBRasl74YDjbT xeFpVMmPoJ1VpfaD/QxhPX0SeB/NDiPH9Rma+zoNofD+M+8UGKD1FopJ5V7FsoMrvEMH lusdq5WWeoiX85p98pADtc90tJEsZKbDeqocI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=tnk0UXF76Ol4x40FzscGAZ4qP12CVo6m/QuyJDWvYyXCZEpLF07D2cvz3c5H2WdeLv lPlxQWtLtO4Fp0viIjZw27l5E8mrHNps9cNqlTAKlamk2yhfl7+4JOKRZIPDN6UgD6ni g3rA/QnFHEOEoTW0Pby8bYxgbjD7hXbkCWxtY= References: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> <4D3AEE6D.6010707@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:19:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4486034825829591618@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Introductin & naive questions To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8a2e89cecb049a7f25b5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:19:49 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8a2e89cecb049a7f25b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sent from my (advertisement removed) well, the repeater doesn't do multiple loops in the EDP or mobius sense of the term, but it does have four tracks per loop, which you can treat as for loops of the same length (just mute and un-mute to cue a 'loop'). Not strictly true as you can cue up the next loop with the loop knob and hit play, it will wait till the current loop is finished then switch loops. Nit really usable for verse/chorus stuff but for beat storage and changing quite usable. --90e6ba6e8a2e89cecb049a7f25b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Sent from my (advertisement re= moved)

=
well, the repeater doesn't do multiple loops in the EDP or mobius=
sense of the term, but it does have four tracks per loop, = which you
can treat as for loops of the same length (just m= ute and un-mute to
cue a 'loop'). =A0

Not = strictly true as you can cue up the next loop with the loop knob and hit pl= ay, it will wait till the current loop is finished then switch loops. Nit r= eally usable for verse/chorus stuff but for beat storage and changing quite= usable.
--90e6ba6e8a2e89cecb049a7f25b5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 08:27:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD0FD183482; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e036e2bf-36b8-417a-9cfd-420fc8a96d5f_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: m13 - m9 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:27:12 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38C13F94-FDE3-46A7-8EA7-EB3F337BCAFE@grubmah.com> References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net>,,, ,<38C13F94-FDE3-46A7-8EA7-EB3F337BCAFE@grubmah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2011 08:27:13.0009 (UTC) FILETIME=[55C7E610:01CBBAD7] Resent-Message-ID: <9Wi1_D.A.czB.hZ-ONB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:27:14 +0000 (UTC) --_e036e2bf-36b8-417a-9cfd-420fc8a96d5f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff Duke posted a stunning ambient piece several months back. I was under = the impression it was the M13. I can remember thinking at the time how on e= arth basically 4 fx pedals produced all that lovely noise.. =20 Peace =20 G =20 From: mark@grubmah.com Subject: Re: m13 - m9 Date: Sat=2C 22 Jan 2011 22:39:32 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On Jan 22=2C 2011=2C at 2:51 PM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: I'm thinking of getting one of these for psychedelic/ambient textures=2C (i= n combination with laptop looping and special effects). I'm currently using Guitar rig 4 for this. =20 What's the verdict guys? Pro's and cons? Very nice delays. The other effects are reasonably good but not that psyche= delic/ambient. Some interesting material in the filter models -- e.g.=2C ra= ndom filters -- that might be interesting piped into a good delay=2C but yo= u would probably want to set this up on a parallel effects loop which it is= n't really set up to do. The Octo and Particle Verb reverbs are interesting= but not stunning. For ambience=2C I would probably check out the Eventide Pitchfactor and Spa= ce pedals=2C but I haven't actually played with them. I'm coming to more deeply appreciate the Korg AM8000R again. Step modulated= phaser into pitch shifter with feedback into a fairly dense delay makes fo= r a great ambient background. (I can thank Mark Landman for having programm= ed this stuff in before I bought mine from him. I probably wouldn't have di= scovered it otherwise.) I actually like it so much=2C I have two. However= =2C I'm really only using one so I'm thinking I should sell the second one.= You have to be willing to deal with a rack processor=2C but it's a stunnin= g source of creative ambiences. Mark = --_e036e2bf-36b8-417a-9cfd-420fc8a96d5f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff Duke posted a stunning ambient piece several months back. I was under = the impression it was the M13. I can remember thinking at the time how on e= arth =3Bbasically 4 fx pedals produced all that lovely noise..
 =3B
Peace
 =3B
G
 =3B
From: mark@grubmah.com
Subject: Re: m13 - m9
Date: Sat=2C 22 Jan 2011= 22:39:32 -0800
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

On Jan 22=2C 2011=2C at 2:51 PM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote:

= I'm thinking of getting one of these for psychedelic/ambient textures=2C (i= n combination with laptop looping and special effects).
I'm currently us= ing Guitar rig 4 for this.
 =3B
What's the verdict guys? Pro's an= d cons?

Very nice delays. The other effects are reasonably good but not that p= sychedelic/ambient. Some interesting material in the filter models -- e.g.= =2C random filters -- that might be interesting piped into a good delay=2C = but you would probably want to set this up on a parallel effects loop which= it isn't really set up to do. The Octo and Particle Verb reverbs are inter= esting but not stunning.

For ambience=2C I would probably check out the Eventide Pitchfactor an= d Space pedals=2C but I haven't actually played with them.

I'm coming to more deeply appreciate the Korg AM8000R again. Step modu= lated phaser into pitch shifter with feedback into a fairly dense delay mak= es for a great ambient background. (I can thank Mark Landman for having pro= grammed this stuff in before I bought mine from him. I probably wouldn't ha= ve discovered it otherwise.) =3BI actually like it so much=2C I have tw= o. However=2C I'm really only using one so I'm thinking I should sell the s= econd one. You have to be willing to deal with a rack processor=2C but it's= a stunning source of creative ambiences.

Mark

= --_e036e2bf-36b8-417a-9cfd-420fc8a96d5f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 09:15:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A7B4183479; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4ppGBYWDCzfpSHPd5JR0Ab9qhglYz3FceicYo9gO5rc=; b=urws90OZLeUMNy2E2BfBe7nucV9yFawCmhBS7xU4vfICLj4XNdapNCce8cDcxfKmxE +cJGQAeXkA7TBU432LFg/jNtupWAlBPC5x2Xcn7ZlhqT/GE0iqkCtLGPlYz06+yGqTgG 59t/+3eUDZW0Elx5ZyS8ts6/3dgRYNVm/G//g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fX6vpEHwehgAhngfG6M+CSggCnfzuSSIoB1o2/HT4/HbwzwYJck2vgEvaukrg42xly XDiFeD/m/c4TLr1l5vUR/UsVHLT7Ft+wKcVfzG0KcGyI1XGwFbjVH1nOqroWhcr0vTB6 zRGv1mcZ8fZGEn7/sNqpGs3mLUL5VSt0kOvtY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> <38C13F94-FDE3-46A7-8EA7-EB3F337BCAFE@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:15:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: m13 - m9 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8f2eb2f236049a7fed2f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:15:48 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8f2eb2f236049a7fed2f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Gareth, thanks! It is an M9. It does all of that ambient wash stuff well and more, great reverbs and delays. I was using the looper in it also in combination with a DD 20. For distortions/overdrives I prefer outboard gear and used several but mostly the Swollen Pickle for Y2K. http://vimeo.com/16034181 While I'm at it, I played virtually at ImprovFriday last eve along with fellow looper and bandmate Steve Moyes. Here is my set. The audio starts at 4:25 into the vid. I haven't edited it yet....I am using a laptop running Soundplant 39 at the beginning loaded with music box samples and some voice stuff that I had my computer read for the show.... http://justin.tv/jeffduke/b/278075340 peace out. On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Jeff Duke posted a stunning ambient piece several months back. I was under > the impression it was the M13. I can remember thinking at the time how on > earth basically 4 fx pedals produced all that lovely noise.. > > Peace > > G > > ------------------------------ > From: mark@grubmah.com > Subject: Re: m13 - m9 > Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:39:32 -0800 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > > I'm thinking of getting one of these for psychedelic/ambient textures, > (in combination with laptop looping and special effects). > I'm currently using Guitar rig 4 for this. > > What's the verdict guys? Pro's and cons? > > > Very nice delays. The other effects are reasonably good but not that > psychedelic/ambient. Some interesting material in the filter models -- e.g., > random filters -- that might be interesting piped into a good delay, but you > would probably want to set this up on a parallel effects loop which it isn't > really set up to do. The Octo and Particle Verb reverbs are interesting but > not stunning. > > For ambience, I would probably check out the Eventide Pitchfactor and Space > pedals, but I haven't actually played with them. > > I'm coming to more deeply appreciate the Korg AM8000R again. Step modulated > phaser into pitch shifter with feedback into a fairly dense delay makes for > a great ambient background. (I can thank Mark Landman for having programmed > this stuff in before I bought mine from him. I probably wouldn't have > discovered it otherwise.) I actually like it so much, I have two. However, > I'm really only using one so I'm thinking I should sell the second one. You > have to be willing to deal with a rack processor, but it's a stunning source > of creative ambiences. > > Mark > > --90e6ba6e8f2eb2f236049a7fed2f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gareth, thanks! It is an M9. It does all of that ambient wash stuff well an= d more, great reverbs and delays. I was using the looper in it also in comb= ination with a DD 20. For distortions/overdrives I prefer outboard gear and= used several but mostly the Swollen Pickle for Y2K.

http://vimeo.com/16034181
=
While I'm at it, I played virtually at ImprovFriday last eve along = with fellow looper and bandmate Steve Moyes. Here is my set. The audio star= ts at 4:25 into the vid. I haven't edited it yet....I am using a laptop= running Soundplant 39 at the beginning loaded with music box samples and s= ome voice stuff that I had my computer read for the show.... http://justin.tv/jeffduke/b/278075340

peace out.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:= 27 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Jeff Duke posted a stunning ambient piece several months back. I was under = the impression it was the M13. I can remember thinking at the time how on e= arth=A0basically 4 fx pedals produced all that lovely noise..
=A0
Peace
=A0
G
=A0
From: mark@grubmah.co= m
Subject: Re: m13 - m9
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:39:32 -0800
= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote:

I'm thinking of ge= tting one of these for psychedelic/ambient textures, (in combination with l= aptop looping and special effects).
I'm currently using Guitar rig 4= for this.
=A0
What's the verdict guys? Pro's and cons?

Very nice delays. The other effects are reasonably good but not that p= sychedelic/ambient. Some interesting material in the filter models -- e.g.,= random filters -- that might be interesting piped into a good delay, but y= ou would probably want to set this up on a parallel effects loop which it i= sn't really set up to do. The Octo and Particle Verb reverbs are intere= sting but not stunning.

For ambience, I would probably check out the Eventide Pitchfactor and = Space pedals, but I haven't actually played with them.

I'm coming to more deeply appreciate the Korg AM8000R again. Step = modulated phaser into pitch shifter with feedback into a fairly dense delay= makes for a great ambient background. (I can thank Mark Landman for having= programmed this stuff in before I bought mine from him. I probably wouldn&= #39;t have discovered it otherwise.)=A0I actually like it so much, I have t= wo. However, I'm really only using one so I'm thinking I should sel= l the second one. You have to be willing to deal with a rack processor, but= it's a stunning source of creative ambiences.

Mark


--90e6ba6e8f2eb2f236049a7fed2f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 11:05:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0E1B18345E; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6en5aqK1pm+YMjKWR1xOs8TDXhOtZWf9rXWnQrCnCR0=; b=hsQA2PDg0sobMRSuz46iDMbB/h3HQ4HJypVqyWPWCpQpSrnvIIhYO8z0HXXn1B9OHt aafpW3IjtjqSMoCLgcP94z9B8h3kQUuHFrOjykjY2fBwZ81GZx5DbhVwLpYJji2bUNsX 1xf6sIy77xYCshyRS3PjGVIRpYM4HIAX0RR6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CNNOuf2g5ewArmo3XFm95H50sgjoDJ9eEd1pdHL9TWoBQAgEIoKRlGsz7hooxdfYpT 9pH9ueZLj7XXzjUmZm3StSj/8Jto36dUm22pvCGdnsvryT684pjGiN/vaLF4WRwWve2x roJ8hu92LR69yfCV3tQWiuqeljHMtRDJszBmI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:05:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a looping cover mashed From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:05:28 +0000 (UTC) ha,ha Jim i love it!! best version ive heard,i actually cant stand the song because they play it in every damn pub but this is refreshing,i dig it;-) cheers Luis On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > I've been using Mobius again and have done several pieces over the last w= eek > with it, for the ImprovFriday community. =A0One was real new territory fo= r me, > doing a vocal 'looped' cover of Marley's 'No Woman No Cry'. =A0I had been > recently inspired by a version by a Swedish musician I found on YouTube > named BaronK as well as my son playing the Foogies wonderful version of i= t a > lot. > I did an a cappella version of it in Mobius using all the tracks and a > couple of multiple loops within a track. =A0I posted it this weekend and > independent of it another musician in the community, Shane W. Cadman, > recorded a really nice sparse acoustic piano piece. =A0Steve Layton also = of IF > who often remixes and mashes some of each weekend's work into new pieces > took our two works and created this version which I was quite taken by. > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4250358/layton_cadman_goodin_-_no_woman_no_cry.mp= 3 > Come check out ImprovFriday some weekend btw, think you will dig it. > Jim > > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 11:06:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C47018345F; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S5L2owE7kG86Ts9NsE+c2OLYfAjEvF8p9XT7UueTSGM=; b=wp97TYHyoTFXcVl3uI4Jec3fR+v0mShsoUey2Jz9BhMs2SGlueoxf8Afs6SNZKqIfM Jnp9Sr+DRxjoGGUw1obArXkrECni+jQF0wuyx6T2qSmILbomhMw3CfwBocd6RYFxiLVx 5PWipUfiW/bFa4GcP5WvwFlID7OohPJLlDtHU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rUt4YHRQddQM2y84+CE3TgjfGtjZ8Xr6a8piau085aJ6t35H/DjIKtjAPbr4xrfy+h r/EpKSXOtHvjRDFLkPi8KqO2kyAzclQs7x+37NnIkf8/UHTTlDmxQlJ0AKEuxyRK9sJ7 Q9wEK514KdJaDLc2UXSSAcZz6Hrc0YAaC2onM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:06:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: also, from Y2K From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:06:04 +0000 (UTC) still waiting patiently my dear Jim;-) loopon Luis On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > Also this weekend I finally 'began' getting to some of the video from Y2K= X > that I shot and owe many of you footage. =A0Video is so time consuming an= d > with other projects that have seemed more immediate I have just backlogge= d > getting the clips out but I will really try to start doing that soon. =A0= I > know a couple of you have been in contact with me in recent months and ha= ve > been incredibly patient, thank you. > This all said, I unearthed and posted on YouTube the opening moments of > Daryl and mine's Chinapainting set that Gaetano [Fontanazza] wonderfully > captured for us. =A0It's at=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYEj9bB3vFu= c > Special thanks to Gaetano for documenting us and many humble thanks to Ri= ck > for making the 10 year old brainchild of his such a wonderful event this > past October. > Jim > > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 11:13:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FA1518345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:13:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4ljqk7Zg1yfLPfnIaCkTryVeE6WXAru7XWa5lsGLNzo=; b=DviA2pP/Afsmpha9Ot4ZMy0K2BeB4GKe7VYoqaSmcc9uB0wNzOojbpWCpQlDiUvI8D HMYnC8kH3Ug7rbe6spSdzxhwa2kgONVm06GPa0F6ZPzPp3Ff8VgkwycWll8Jng5l6YyW fjhOASqtC3yxD7kWcBiY3ttnz2Nr/nL8appWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=llfZXifT/Y4BqCr5TXgMEslc1urEi2f/YC0x90Ok9NSD3cV9q2yNBcotLmdXEeHaKA EeGJvrT57E1xf3cpoxgW+I18IDUkqBmU7NfC8ZB9cI5r/aYAohdBvWDueiPBNZJdeOHK IivMLi3dQ2BhYyvkdx1U1W5FOLOB30iZdll74= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:12:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Introductin & naive questions From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:13:02 +0000 (UTC) silly question Jeff,i notice there is a "backwards" button now,whats the difference between that one and reverse? they seem to accomplish the same thing and i dont see it mentioned in the manual. thanx Luis On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:17 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: >> BTW is there any tutorial or manual anywhere online for Mobius? It is pr= etty daunting. > > The Mobius docs are available here... > > =A0 =A0http://www.circularlabs.com/documentation/documentation.html > > Start with "Getting Started With Mobius". > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 11:13:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34DDF18345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EFs7TFybIXOokiroG9DUwNDBAkjrTqcTgiieXSyIs2A=; b=jlN5U9T3qHSqYLMrHxxomC0TwCO2G8J6k8QjUWm7PKIQA7mPN0CHDxaXHuY1mR6F8Q LSQgHuJBIJ/E3HOeV1AdGBoDXMRhbE8zuvBvo+rwnXzDVue+hNFUKJCuT12oqgTZlL2E xNJ/Ep9LfWFFb1m5/aSem7++gGzNtnW3bSi9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n5e8+EtSiOwpoOjEllltsPjHCvOqoEeJ9PjRMTTGYxHaWxJoipl6saYlGJMOYpRVEq /4GkqUuigjoSi6rn2iEUzxZACxwqgeU5kaeE1ApLN5YoZO/xPqrZVhxhC+A6wfb+NThw tIhO0QlN43QbBXcz1WdnQew9iUa83NtQe3RFg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3B4B72.3040103@cruzio.com> References: <1F049941-8621-4AAC-A857-FE080BD918F2@charter.net> <4D3B4B72.3040103@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:13:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:13:58 +0000 (UTC) wow where can i buy one? On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> >> Always enjoyed that disc. > > Me too!! =A0 =A0...... and Chris and I also use our Andy Butler, Live Loo= per > coffee mug > each and every day. =A0 =A0 You should go out and buy one or five. > Are they still available, Andy? > > rick walker >> >>> >>> >>> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 11:18:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0CC718345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7EF7C853-28CF-453E-9730-48DB2013A0E2@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--353251139 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Introductin & naive questions Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:18:48 +0900 References: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa01b; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:18:48 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--353251139 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As soon as I sent that email with that sentence, I realized I had seen and begun to read the documentation earlier. I guess I had video tutorials in my mind or something. Time to knuckle down and read. I am hoping to incorporate the three Korg Nanos I recently got: Keys, Pads & Kontrol. Should be fun if I get past the challenge. On Jan 23, 2011, at 3:16 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:17 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: >> BTW is there any tutorial or manual anywhere online for Mobius? It >> is pretty daunting. > > The Mobius docs are available here... > > http://www.circularlabs.com/documentation/documentation.html > > Start with "Getting Started With Mobius". > > Jeff > Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ --Apple-Mail-3--353251139 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As soon as I sent that email = with that sentence, I realized I had seen and begun to read the = documentation earlier. I guess I had video tutorials in my mind or = something. Time to knuckle down and read. I am hoping to incorporate the = three Korg Nanos I recently got: Keys, Pads & Kontrol. Should be fun = if I get past the challenge.

On Jan 23, 2011, at 3:16 = AM, Jeff Larson wrote:

On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:17 = AM, Ed Durbrow wrote:
BTW is = there any tutorial or manual anywhere online for Mobius? It is pretty = daunting.

The Mobius docs are available = here...

   http= ://www.circularlabs.com/documentation/documentation.html =    

Start with "Getting Started With = Mobius".

Jeff



= --Apple-Mail-3--353251139-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 12:12:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 688A6183475; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3C1AFD.5000209@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:11:41 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gareth Whittock CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: m13 - m9 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1PSh0.A.3VD.UsBPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:12:04 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I'm thinking of getting one of these for psychedelic/ambient textures, > (in combination with laptop looping and special effects). > I'm currently using Guitar rig 4 for this. > > What's the verdict guys? Pro's and cons? > > Peace > > G The m9, for me, is a single desert island, multi-purpose stomp box/live looping pedal. There are a plethora of cool effects (that can be midi synced) and a good DL-4 looper (replete with forward/backward/1/2 speed/double speed options and even a single level of undo, redo). I'm amazed at how much cool stuff is in this box, from all the de riguer modulation, delay, distortion, verb, eq and filter modelings and a bunch of idiosyncratic weirdness that I particularly love (pattern tremolos to an amazing verb called "Particle Verb" that I use far too much of this past year). I don't even use it for it's looping capabilities but you can use up to three different effects (in 3 banks of 3 per scene) and place them post or pre loop. Additionally, Bill Putnam just hipped me to the fact that it is a very small footprint, simple midi controller even if you don't want to use the effects and looper. I like that it has only a two stomp box profile (the M13 has more in it but it's to big for my tastes and precludes the use of a lot of other stomp box pedals which I adore). My next festival setup will probably be 2 LP-2 mini loopers, one placed on either side of the M9. that's a lot of looping power with synchronizing abilities. Highly recommended. Five Stars from moi, Gareth. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 12:28:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D868E183460; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 567055496/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.24.141/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.24.141 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8BAJ+tO01YbRiN/2dsb2JhbAAMhAaSO7xdjyeBJIM4dASOOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,365,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="567055496" Message-ID: <4D3C1EE4.7030306@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:28:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The EDP and the Looperlative References: <4D2097A2.1040704@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Todd Lainhart wrote: > That's all real-time, right? absolutely > Man, you know how to play that thing. > Excellent. thankyou andy and thanks to Rick & Ted also for your kind comments > > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:20 AM, andy butler > wrote: > > > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/backwater.mp3 > ...loop window opens at 2:00 > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 12:43:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D7EB183454; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3C2281.2010308@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:43:45 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: glitchy References: <9FC08A36-F9D3-4E8F-A37E-BC73546DF018@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <9FC08A36-F9D3-4E8F-A37E-BC73546DF018@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030301060602020109030101" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:43:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030301060602020109030101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Maybe you can figure out how to get a morse code key to do stutter!! Forgive my HTML message, I had to use it to utilize fixed width fonts for the rhythmic examples. rick walker: Weirdly apropos: A fun game I came up with to amuse myself is to use Morse code's use of dots and dashes and make a dot =a 2 8th note figure with an accent on the 1st note (or just an 8th note) and a dash = a 3 8th note figure with an accent on the 1st note (or just a dotted 8th note) and a slash = a 4 8th note figure with an accent on the 1st note (or a half note) *(the slash is not part of the letter translation. It graphically delineates words.....still, it's fun to use it to graphically represent rhythmic figures. * You can use random Morse code sentences into wonderful random odd time signature reading exercises. ex:. . _ . . _ _ equals 2 + 2 + 3 + 2 + 2 + 3 + 3 = 17/8 > > > > > > > A drummer would play this R L R L R L L R L R L R L L R L L A simple finger picking exercise for guitarists or bassists would be T 2 T 2 R 2 1 T 2 T 2 T 2 1 T 2 1 * T = thumb 1 = 1st finger 2 = 2nd finger TRY PLAYING THIS EXERCISE FOR FUN: ? ?.. /.-.. --- ...- . / .-.. .. ...- . / .-.. --- --- .--. .. -. --. --..-- / -.. --- -. .----. - / -.-- --- ..- ..- -.. *This translates as:* /I love live looping, don't you?/ Here's a cool morse code translating site. http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html Cool factoid: Morse Codes is now officially a dead language. It was retired a few years back due to the ubiquity of inexpensive GPS systems for sailing. * --------------030301060602020109030101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote:
Maybe you can figure out how to get a morse code key to do stutter!!
Forgive my HTML message,  I had to use it to utilize fixed width fonts for
the rhythmic examples.    rick walker:

Weirdly apropos:  A fun game I came up with to amuse myself is
to use Morse code's use of dots and dashes and make a
dot   =  a  2  8th note figure with an accent on the 1st note (or just an 8th note)

and a

dash  =   a  3  8th note  figure with an accent on the 1st note (or just a dotted 8th note)

and a slash  =  a 4 8th note figure with an accent on the 1st note (or a half note)

 (the slash is not part of the letter translation. It graphically delineates words.....still, it's fun
to use it to graphically represent rhythmic figures.


You can use random Morse code sentences into wonderful random odd time signature
reading exercises.

ex:. . _ . . _ _ equals  2 + 2 + 3 + 2  + 2 + 3 + 3   =   17/8

                            >   >   >     >   >   >     >                   A drummer would play this   R L R L R L L R L R L R L L R L L
A simple finger picking exercise for guitarists or bassists would be
                            T 2 T 2 R 2 1 T 2 T 2 T 2 1 T 2 1

T = thumb     1 = 1st finger     2 = 2nd finger


TRY PLAYING THIS EXERCISE FOR FUN:

.. /.-.. --- ...- . / .-.. .. ...- . / .-.. --- --- .--. ..
-. --. --..-- / -.. --- -. .----. - / -.-- --- ..- ..-
-..

This translates as:
I love live looping, don't you?

Here's a cool morse code translating site.

http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html

Cool factoid:  Morse Codes is now officially a dead language.
It was retired a few years back due to the ubiquity of
inexpensive GPS systems for sailing.


 --------------030301060602020109030101-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 12:55:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2121418345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3C2520.3080504@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:54:56 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: glitchy References: <9FC08A36-F9D3-4E8F-A37E-BC73546DF018@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <9FC08A36-F9D3-4E8F-A37E-BC73546DF018@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Oh my god, how cool!!!! I just realized that you can change the pitch and the speed of the Morse Code translations at this page: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html Try this, with any random paragraph translation in the dialogue box lower down the page that allows you to change pitch and speed Volume 0.9 Pitch 175 Speed/wpm 70 Farnsworth Speed 70 Record it and distort it.............INSTA GLITCH!!!!!! I friggin' love the internets!!!!!! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 12:58:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2FDC18345F; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eeSG21DbHCyQz93AZnYXrMPJmFOXWqHwOQVioRYASfs=; b=XsI7Qetzzh+PE4sGWAJ2ChreO0iZCN5KCF477fa2SQcYGOW6u37uZ82BvauVqjj/5W IRQkitNfNSbboVno7jz6UmT8osV2OIroUj14z6EBdI7d0yQKOHlntGf8+EB3gQqc1f0g XGgxmE90sdN+FA/nUD/beG6E7a3HMlBMWq2EE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fsgGvUKjy697L+cKIhNexrT5LA/yG2kWqmBIwd7IV57hiubry7CevCl/Hsu6P3eONQ WNlhLO4sqed27gZ2u4IXSq0BsZVfRJ/O1buReF24c7YZQ4Cf+uKMdPqgRDA7sYJtV28R ENa+c59vcUq+hZELyDPhgKjgOMn408ynv3qnc= Message-ID: <4D3C25DA.8050902@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:58:02 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Introductin & naive questions References: <8CE9409F-6E8C-4FAA-A7D3-41437DDC56E4@sea.plala.or.jp> <4D3A1768.1090009@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo schrieb: > silly question Jeff,i notice there is a "backwards" button now,whats > the difference between that one and reverse? they seem to accomplish > the same thing and i dont see it mentioned in the manual If I remember that correctly: "Backward" (and its companion function, "Forward") switch transport to backward and forward, respectively. "Reverse" switches to backward if you're currently playing forward and vice versa. This is mainly useful for scripting, because you can avoid branches that way. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 13:01:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B22F7183478; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3C2686.5030805@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:00:54 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: glitchy References: <9FC08A36-F9D3-4E8F-A37E-BC73546DF018@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <9FC08A36-F9D3-4E8F-A37E-BC73546DF018@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Alright, try this setting on a random long paragraph Morse code translation at http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html and I promise you I'll quit posting VOLUME 5.0 PITCH/HZ 60 TYPING/WPM 68 FARNSWORTH 68 Now, keep hitting play over and over again randomly............EUREKA!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 14:45:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10CB618345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mYC0k198FhCpOeThU2HmGzwgJHeCCoBS8zIBrJjdMfw=; b=rYCi7/8g0K0amjlpi9p+wBZRdgWpjnxn2LT9RgcN4IVXVQ+BVS1EV/5wVOCBhWZSWJ Lra7f6QSClHx3kt/CAUu6SIaIsLyfc/qz2L4CA1DA+H+Qj73TqB93ePsmFeUFb5lx6VF TBygGK3DTykWo0rKwqjo8TUSVVE5GzXBuOr08= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eEL288TzHZl2A/83zU3kKllFymZfA556kBrhWP0ksu/zXUyGVFZxSud3HuIaMq1S+9 YxMhQBQMfgRFcLFZKaILHbZ3AOVPTNzSmiMrICH4s/+/0mk/LPjsEvhxEP2MZ13iM1Qa lzs34OyM0Q+Xf+kZLPWduescstRV7YcgEv+T8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:45:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: m13 - m9 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:45:46 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I'm thinking of getting one of these for psychedelic/ambient textures, (in > combination with laptop looping and special effects). > I'm currently using Guitar rig 4 for this. > > What's the verdict guys? Pro's and cons? Hi Gareth, I'm an ambient looper, and I use an M13 for 2 reasons 1) as pre-looper FX before the signal is further processed by my laptop 2) as a backup system together with a DD-20 You can quickly create new sounds and textures, it's easy to use. Regarding the sound quality, don't expect cristal a clear Eventide for this price but most delay and reverb effects are good enough. The analog delays can sound very harsh and anything but warm, I don't like them personally, the DD-20 analog delay emulation is far better than the M9 or M13. Anyway, it's a reliable unit, and used it every live and studio setup for almost a year now. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 15:02:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3F0218345C; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dhrTmgqhok7MIHhjS8YeViz11m3z3TOFK6fF+f8qLKY=; b=YkmJZJal3RzMf30XT5ZBhAaJ3BYS8w9gXjwjzD08XiuwR4oR81p6AYWb+XZn7q6oCW 2xRXRWr7viNMHmfMfZEMbujt34k3mAnt/hklAHcC/f0TJEF7581374YzTWLL3cVG75C0 /D4P76dmB6RnMbFWYQRKYf4S1KnfmOqJGZfpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G8ff934Ws7yLOpe/Gs1l2k+zkd7nQPkEGk/ug556vFIuZlmPd1JkxcEupMK8d45Hko CPunJPKFEdrpl+m1Z6yvkSuvZHGKv3Un25CjxDO/+HreEiFcV9iLw3Raf4/8kaW3arB6 kxt/C9ABElEspZzKkyuXOfN8jZZRiL1wr9UMs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <33CC1B5B-AC39-4B8F-A118-D52DAF9643AE@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:02:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: M9/M13/HD500 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:02:53 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > I know for us guitarrists is maybe not always that important, but > Sjaak does beautiful dreamy synth soundscapes where space and dimesion > is crucial > I remember listening to him and being lost in his sound, it sounded > huge and it would be a pity to sacrifice his signal =A0with a mono > looper;-) Hi Luis, Good point, that's exactly why I need stereo loopers. Compared to last year when you saw me perform at the Antwerp Loopfest, I've further developed my setup. I'm now using a parallel system allowing me to record and overdub with separate left and right loopers per stereo track. The default loop length are 10 and 28 seconds but can be tapped as well, so each L or R channel has it's own delay length, filter settings, feedback etc. In addition to that, the post-processing is now also separated in left and right, I'm using reverbs, analog delays or grain delays for that, and panning to create the final mix. For tracks with melodic content, I still use a single instance of the Augustus looper and some pre and post FX. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 15:39:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C141318345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:39:24 +0900 Subject: Re: M9/M13/HD500 From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: M9/M13/HD500 Thread-Index: Acu7E7XbayTmBhFeTia/fTij/o03Dg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:39:28 +0000 (UTC) On 1/24/11 12:02 AM, "Sjaak Overgaauw" wrote: > On 1/22/11 2:51 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >> I know for us guitarrists is maybe not always that important, but >> Sjaak does beautiful dreamy synth soundscapes where space and dimesion >> is crucial > > Good point, that's exactly why I need stereo loopers. Continuing on this line, I think that there are two other good reasons why someone might wish to maintain stereo throughout a performance. The first is if the phase-cancellation and 'lost parts' that Bill mentioned are actually a necessary element in the performance. I've put together pieces using lots of moving delay and reverb, and the most compelling effect from this is listening to the harmonics that drift in and out as different frequencies in the mix cancel each other out. Many times this can (and hopefully will) cause movement not only in the standard L/R stereo spread, but also along the Up/Down vertical axis and the Back/Front "Z" axis of depth. This was, as I understand, one of the reasons behind some of Glenn Branca's 'deafening wall of guitars' drone symphonies. I've read reports from people who had seen the performances live, and have heard it said that the albums and recordings just can't do them justice. In a live setting, you evidently could hear different harmonics and notes flying back and forth across the room -- not only left and right, but also above you and in front or behind you -- swooshing all around in waves. For looping artists who depend on this sort of harmonic interaction (I'm guessing Sjaak may fall into this category), stereo is an essential element. The second reason has to do with the performer themselves. For instance, everybody knows that musicians in the studio (vocalists especially) usually have a set of effects put on the feed to their headphones while they're laying down tracks. Generally, this 'sweetening' gives the musician a sense of how great they can sound and helps to eke out the best possible performance from them. Likewise, being able to hear yourself play onstage and go, "wow, I really sound good" can be a real boost to one's performance. And since we're talking about live improvisation here, every little bit helps. Even if some people in the audience miss the 'sweet spot', is it better to collapse down your sound and give a technical and uninspired performance that everyone can hear equally well? Or is it better to 'play big' with the understanding that stuff's going to be bouncing all over the room, and that the sound guy's going to hate you by the end of the night? ;) --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 15:43:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ECA718345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s3fMQ4QrnHR9fqzPr5Hka0BJLNv/jggvwBrmWP0MWKo=; b=jAZ6Y0/yoDwtMO0tKMDkGVmO2JSDkFLYLAQrw++D0yeVmCdL1VfKKhtgjMHPWW9CED rvJK3YbxDzY8AHg2ZrdJ23qyThyDya7zYvK3ADsfOvKth1QERuy/Cg/Qec0ipkBEYm8X 7CHoaMtrvV9EwkA0SHQKSdy43bJdmQOmF/7b0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VKy82F7b2X+3l9xZkVKq87oPNO/9ptXserhO13FPjKygBMqmP5TxR/P4LFfXn5EM6d PAKbvG1bdm51NknNUW/LrNKzgxOY0QYUeOO3dwQDMHYRWPSinmAS03SjJjnNMYV74yIq brXCLYY4UQKPw2X8b8Do+Og4BJGy7OfJbjBjk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:43:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a looping cover mashed From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a34dafee66049a855720 Resent-Message-ID: <5rOk-D.A.nH.ZyEPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:43:22 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a34dafee66049a855720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the nice words Luis and that is funny, go figure I'd have to pic= k a real 'popular' song but I kind of live under a rock. Best Jim On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > ha,ha Jim i love it!! > best version ive heard,i actually cant stand the song because they > play it in every damn pub but this is refreshing,i dig it;-) > cheers > Luis > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Jim Goodin > wrote: > > I've been using Mobius again and have done several pieces over the last > week > > with it, for the ImprovFriday community. One was real new territory fo= r > me, > > doing a vocal 'looped' cover of Marley's 'No Woman No Cry'. I had been > > recently inspired by a version by a Swedish musician I found on YouTube > > named BaronK as well as my son playing the Foogies wonderful version of > it a > > lot. > > I did an a cappella version of it in Mobius using all the tracks and a > > couple of multiple loops within a track. I posted it this weekend and > > independent of it another musician in the community, Shane W. Cadman, > > recorded a really nice sparse acoustic piano piece. Steve Layton also = of > IF > > who often remixes and mashes some of each weekend's work into new piece= s > > took our two works and created this version which I was quite taken by. > > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4250358/layton_cadman_goodin_-_no_woman_no_cry.mp= 3 > > Come check out ImprovFriday some weekend btw, think you will dig it. > > Jim > > > > -- > > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & > > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a34dafee66049a855720 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the nice words Luis and that is funny, go figure I'd have to= pick a real 'popular' song but I kind of live under a rock.
Best Jim

On Sun, Jan 23, 201= 1 at 6:05 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
ha,ha Jim i love it!!
best version ive heard,i actually cant stand the song because they
play it in every damn pub but this is refreshing,i dig it;-)
cheers
Luis

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been using Mobius again and have done several pieces over the= last week
> with it, for the ImprovFriday community. =A0One was real new territory= for me,
> doing a vocal 'looped' cover of Marley's 'No Woman No = Cry'. =A0I had been
> recently inspired by a version by a Swedish musician I found on YouTub= e
> named BaronK as well as my son playing the Foogies wonderful version o= f it a
> lot.
> I did an a cappella version of it in Mobius using all the tracks and a=
> couple of multiple loops within a track. =A0I posted it this weekend a= nd
> independent of it another musician in the community, Shane W. Cadman,<= br> > recorded a really nice sparse acoustic piano piece. =A0Steve Layton al= so of IF
> who often remixes and mashes some of each weekend's work into new = pieces
> took our two works and created this version which I was quite taken by= .
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4250358/layton_c= adman_goodin_-_no_woman_no_cry.mp3
> Come check out ImprovFriday some weekend btw, think you will dig it. > Jim
>
> --
> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Good= in &
> Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
> = jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
>
> wo= odandwiremusic.wordpress.com
>




--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a34dafee66049a855720-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 15:44:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B47C318345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=v09q78wxiVesXO7JBdFY/tS2UJQxmxq7hGHejFQLlLk=; b=UOLlJ6j7U0lGRgTc2YQZ1ocGiJzIBMSfyY4WgAZq/hIPr9XZ0DgoTGZc/wKBU5SpjG aT/2pfxDJ/5IfX231hQWo1HD0Q+ruamdBfTkqbcYaJHzCYpgFhhoLWCuHrsmFU0OuwXc AxHzU8fFO5svgyPOwjh3M+SeVjAEE+TSOdc1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WUwtCr+KVhePMZtguvv1DIeHxZ+sqVKfLq2LPTyUJNudZFXc50MS9OxUGBRKxAyaES UXP/TcChiuZ5vfQv6QKzcFA21KOurF+qB8rBAdHYluW5iyeAHfag7F9N6Gdwb2mp475i z0B/Ltmq99soWsDL7vmeDBYS/jsOzQL69xogg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:44:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: also, from Y2K From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b558dd49e3049a855b72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:44:30 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b558dd49e3049a855b72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable soon I promise. On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > still waiting patiently my dear Jim;-) > loopon > Luis > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Jim Goodin > wrote: > > Also this weekend I finally 'began' getting to some of the video from > Y2KX > > that I shot and owe many of you footage. Video is so time consuming an= d > > with other projects that have seemed more immediate I have just > backlogged > > getting the clips out but I will really try to start doing that soon. = I > > know a couple of you have been in contact with me in recent months and > have > > been incredibly patient, thank you. > > This all said, I unearthed and posted on YouTube the opening moments of > > Daryl and mine's Chinapainting set that Gaetano [Fontanazza] wonderfull= y > > captured for us. It's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYEj9bB3vFuc > > Special thanks to Gaetano for documenting us and many humble thanks to > Rick > > for making the 10 year old brainchild of his such a wonderful event thi= s > > past October. > > Jim > > > > -- > > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & > > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001636c5b558dd49e3049a855b72 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable soon I promise.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 6= :06 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
still waiting patiently my dear Jim;-)
loopon
Luis

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also this weekend I finally 'began' getting to some of the vid= eo from Y2KX
> that I shot and owe many of you footage. =A0Video is so time consuming= and
> with other projects that have seemed more immediate I have just backlo= gged
> getting the clips out but I will really try to start doing that soon. = =A0I
> know a couple of you have been in contact with me in recent months and= have
> been incredibly patient, thank you.
> This all said, I unearthed and posted on YouTube the opening moments o= f
> Daryl and mine's Chinapainting set that Gaetano [Fontanazza] wonde= rfully
> captured for us. =A0It's at=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYEj= 9bB3vFuc
> Special thanks to Gaetano for documenting us and many humble thanks to= Rick
> for making the 10 year old brainchild of his such a wonderful event th= is
> past October.
> Jim
>
> --
> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Good= in &
> Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
> = jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
>
> wo= odandwiremusic.wordpress.com
>




--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--001636c5b558dd49e3049a855b72-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 15:59:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E0A918345F; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=v8191nh2Fz0uExGj/Lcb1nLkATX+iz8jYSOLDPQlNBc=; b=qjKdSUvtNv8qdq+7x43qoJaM7fZPItBuf6Bu+uBFD1y3UMHE4JUCITy8G4/jO4iR44 Gte2u9MjWkGQhe3C6mKPcfQQkOjF1R2722VXqmqkjlEPeLrwFMcIoc2r4zAyLOqMeyEI 6ih74FZXb2w8k1v3iAuk9ivAA/kaeYqgO247I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=e/yD3LSaV9Ljb9m9erSJIm8ZVVapBF0mpUcuyskY1w8+cJoClhvsFpsXpA0BzTvEeM /4EpDUEB30SpqpHZnhGNdI6ZHX+zNpmCvvFiDvWKtHrZY9rQyemTd78dahcW7526Tez1 ZBkHr5VXf59uRVmsm2NhTGzMBffb0jCTrMGsk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:59:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: midi converters KM string port vs roland GI20 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3qHeGD.A.ei.9BFPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:59:57 +0000 (UTC) has anybody compared this? id like to know how fast and reliable they are,the string port has USB which the GI-20 doesnt The sofstep was a bit of dissapointment so i want to be careful if i was to get this one. im looking to get a midi converter to notate music and trigger software synths,i know i can do it with my roland GR33 but i m selling it and want to get something small for my desk anyway. thanx Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 16:24:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1C71183474; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6e9430ee-ac87-45cd-9db2-19d1a5deeb07_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: midi converters KM string port vs roland GI20 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:24:07 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2011 16:24:08.0176 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5BFDF00:01CBBB19] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:24:10 +0000 (UTC) --_6e9430ee-ac87-45cd-9db2-19d1a5deeb07_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are you mac or pc? =20 > Date: Sun=2C 23 Jan 2011 16:59:55 +0100 > Subject: midi converters KM string port vs roland GI20 > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > has anybody compared this? id like to know how fast and reliable they > are=2Cthe string port has USB which the GI-20 doesnt > The sofstep was a bit of dissapointment so i want to be careful if i > was to get this one. > im looking to get a midi converter to notate music and trigger > software synths=2Ci know i can do it with my roland GR33 but i m selling > it and want to get something small for my desk anyway. > thanx > Luis >=20 = --_6e9430ee-ac87-45cd-9db2-19d1a5deeb07_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are you mac or pc?

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= = --_6e9430ee-ac87-45cd-9db2-19d1a5deeb07_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 16:41:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AEDD183482; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fjQpRPhONXf5qd28l3mITMMebEg5YW/tqi5EGxLjNUs=; b=D06TTQd9KF+9JDLI4xoxlMPdztbaeRWQAKveU6ImMbsOav10Myv6zuCNoknDTYu7w7 YqWSzcD/rK1bj7WH6G80AdhdITGSH7ExNFmz0Wm5eqkJqc8nNgfvbyIYTuwUMxOpN2te 3k/VjbawEh+R0Cl8h3Dw0LEDanICNDeGqAhM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iGh0Hz6WnbA8OGzHrsI2xF9f3H/ollpUioAFp2riXyT99QZ1GbHw+XjzdXBIVbzdMQ pgklM2lNUy2pIaMxqWHqyLK9Cc0uDxy7NBZdZMdYdfKZI2jdCxDcX5tGA4NdwekTxSZp 44ZO03lC+Aa+7K7AcerEcBN6IGryQj5OFz6IQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:41:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi converters KM string port vs roland GI20 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:41:37 +0000 (UTC) mac,but i just saw the price on that stringport forget it ;-) Luis On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Are you mac or pc? > > >> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:59:55 +0100 >> Subject: midi converters KM string port vs roland GI20 >> From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com >> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> has anybody compared this? id like to know how fast and reliable they >> are,the string port has USB which the GI-20 doesnt >> The sofstep was a bit of dissapointment so i want to be careful if i >> was to get this one. >> im looking to get a midi converter to notate music and trigger >> software synths,i know i can do it with my roland GR33 but i m selling >> it and want to get something small for my desk anyway. >> thanx >> Luis >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 16:55:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9556183460; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: stereo Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:55:48 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:55:56 +0000 (UTC) It was my not my intent to diss the use of stereo, For crying out loud guys, I use stereo all the time, the recent recordings I've been doing are actually using two separate rigs in stereo recorded simultaneously. But when I do a gig , often times I am not offered the luxury of either a stereo house sound or stereo monitors. If I'm playing solo and bringing my stereo pa, I might be forced to aim on speaker out and on on the floor facing back at me. In fact it has been my experience that stereo is usually the exception not the norm, in live sound systems. So what do I do now that I don't have my precious stereo security blanket? I use different delays in series set to different beat values to create the illusion of strereo imaging. It may not fullfill all of you stereo experts ear candy needs but it works for me in real world situations where stereo is not available. Obviously if you always have the luxury of stereo when you play live this point is moot, but I don't . Also I was getting at an underlying issue that I didn't really clarify but is something I've had on my mind recently, and that is I'm going through a personal reavaluation in my own life about what is really necessary to create music and what is not. Over the summer I did 20 gigs with an RnB singer friend of mine where we had so little set space for gear that I could only bring one amp. Now for the last 10 years or so my live band rig has always included two tube amps, in stereo split from my fulltone chorus. But over the course of several gigs, though I missed the vox amp and its sublime tremolo, I realized it wasn't essential to playing well and having a good experience. I've had the same epiphany about loopers lately. My looping has been refined to fewer and fewer tracks and a new acoustic duo project I'm putting together will have some looping, but it will probably be simplified to a pair of simple loopers (we'll be using 2 LP-2's for syncing to each other). The idea is that we will use loops very sparingly and concentrate I writing material that doesn't even need looping to be delivered. The overall feeling I have had , is that technology needs to take a backseat so that I can get back to what for me is most essential , and that is writing good music. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 17:19:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DF3218345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sF5W39InLTPoEPtUV8ZqjscJq9Zp8B1S/jrXUPGpRLI=; b=VWDRfErOMy44gqVSSCy58FEsdJzEyHIU+UHpkCfKf6DBF2j6JBPudKy5043/E2rz4r V1/VrtTLcXCB2grX1+DDYX7PVhJZ7Oal9Nb6SERg8k6LYl9OaeDpu9GUE3nLVi5v8nle 55BDg1//cGiU4jyJQNb39WQqt0fONwr1U908I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jOMdNIjFp6IUkavUrwQc/ETclLN8d+U5RXhBBparLD/5yr7nHBOIsKPU4tfleFh51f F4ETr3GMSXsHCnobfZKv2T502KPuswhDnJmu7NNWPzAQnCqa+ebib21ouHE0vM9cWSGg 6uHPpTAFSaCP4ZLg2dIjA9tdCLfy21jg9QWfo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> References: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:18:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: stereo From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b39c785303049a86adb3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:18:59 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b39c785303049a86adb3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very fine words, and quite seldomly heard in these techonology-ridden conversations, thank Bill! 2011/1/23 William Walker > It was my not my intent to diss the use of stereo, For crying out loud > guys, I use stereo all the time, the recent recordings I've been doing are > actually using two separate rigs in stereo recorded simultaneously. But when > I do a gig , often times I am not offered the luxury of either a stereo > house sound or stereo monitors. If I'm playing solo and bringing my stereo > pa, I might be forced to aim on speaker out and on on the floor facing back > at me. In fact it has been my experience that stereo is usually the > exception not the norm, in live sound systems. So what do I do now that I > don't have my precious stereo security blanket? I use different delays in > series set to different beat values to create the illusion of strereo > imaging. It may not fullfill all of you stereo experts ear candy needs but > it works for me in real world situations where stereo is not available. > Obviously if you always have the luxury of stereo when you play live this > point is moot, but I don't . Also I was getting at an underlying issue that > I didn't really clarify but is something I've had on my mind recently, and > that is I'm going through a personal reavaluation in my own life about what > is really necessary to create music and what is not. Over the summer I did > 20 gigs with an RnB singer friend of mine where we had so little set space > for gear that I could only bring one amp. Now for the last 10 years or so my > live band rig has always included two tube amps, in stereo split from my > fulltone chorus. But over the course of several gigs, though I missed the > vox amp and its sublime tremolo, I realized it wasn't essential to playing > well and having a good experience. I've had the same epiphany about loopers > lately. My looping has been refined to fewer and fewer tracks and a new > acoustic duo project I'm putting together will have some looping, but it > will probably be simplified to a pair of simple loopers (we'll be using 2 > LP-2's for syncing to each other). The idea is that we will use loops very > sparingly and concentrate I writing material that doesn't even need looping > to be delivered. The overall feeling I have had , is that technology needs > to take a backseat so that I can get back to what for me is most essential > , and that is writing good music. > Bill > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --00151747b39c785303049a86adb3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very fine words, and quite seldomly heard in these techonology-ridden conve= rsations, thank Bill!

2011/1/23 William W= alker <billw= alker@baymoon.com>
It was my not my = intent to diss the use of stereo, For crying out loud guys, I use stereo al= l the time, the recent recordings I've been doing are actually using tw= o separate rigs in stereo recorded simultaneously. But when I do a gig , of= ten times I am not offered the luxury of either a stereo house sound or ste= reo monitors. If I'm playing solo and bringing my stereo pa, I might be= forced to aim on speaker out and on on the floor facing back at me. =A0In = fact it has been my experience that stereo is usually the exception not the= norm, in live sound systems. So what do I do now that I don't have my = precious stereo security blanket? =A0I use different delays in series set t= o different beat values to create the illusion of strereo imaging. It may n= ot fullfill all of you stereo experts ear candy needs but it works for me i= n real world situations where stereo is not available. Obviously if you alw= ays have the luxury of stereo when you play live this point is moot, but I = don't . =A0Also I was getting at an underlying issue that I didn't = really clarify but is something I've had on my mind recently, and that = is I'm going through a personal reavaluation in my own life about what = is really necessary to create music and what is not. =A0Over the summer I d= id =A020 =A0gigs with an RnB singer friend of mine where we had so little s= et space for gear that I could only bring one amp. Now for the last 10 year= s or so my live band rig has always included two tube amps, in stereo split= from my fulltone chorus. But over the course of several gigs, though I mis= sed the vox amp and its sublime tremolo, I realized it wasn't essential= to playing well and having a good experience. I've had the same epipha= ny about loopers lately. My looping has been refined to fewer and fewer tra= cks and a new =A0acoustic duo project I'm putting together will have so= me looping, but it will probably be simplified to a pair of simple loopers = (we'll be using 2 LP-2's for syncing to each other). The idea is th= at we will use loops very sparingly and concentrate I writing material that= doesn't even need looping to be delivered. The overall feeling I have = had , is that technology needs to take a backseat so that I can get back to= what for me is =A0most essential , and that is writing good music.
Bill




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Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahti= nen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--00151747b39c785303049a86adb3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 17:25:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F22818345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-278--331246557 Subject: Re: m13 - m9 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:25:33 -0800 In-Reply-To: <38C13F94-FDE3-46A7-8EA7-EB3F337BCAFE@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110117103843.40590@gmx.net>,,, <38C13F94-FDE3-46A7-8EA7-EB3F337BCAFE@grubmah.com> Message-Id: <1C788021-AC15-4479-B5B5-05EFCB5DAF2A@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <5gtyKB.A.KSD.RSGPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:25:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-278--331246557 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 22, 2011, at 10:39 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: >=20 >> I'm thinking of getting one of these for psychedelic/ambient = textures, (in combination with laptop looping and special effects). >> I'm currently using Guitar rig 4 for this. >> =20 >> What's the verdict guys? Pro's and cons? >=20 > Very nice delays. The other effects are reasonably good but not that = psychedelic/ambient. Some interesting material in the filter models -- = e.g., random filters -- that might be interesting piped into a good = delay, but you would probably want to set this up on a parallel effects = loop which it isn't really set up to do. The Octo and Particle Verb = reverbs are interesting but not stunning. >=20 > For ambience, I would probably check out the Eventide Pitchfactor and = Space pedals, but I haven't actually played with them. >=20 > I'm coming to more deeply appreciate the Korg AM8000R again. Step = modulated phaser into pitch shifter with feedback into a fairly dense = delay makes for a great ambient background. (I can thank Mark Landman = for having programmed this stuff in before I bought mine from him. I = probably wouldn't have discovered it otherwise.) I actually like it so = much, I have two. However, I'm really only using one so I'm thinking I = should sell the second one. You have to be willing to deal with a rack = processor, but it's a stunning source of creative ambiences. As Jeff Duke demonstrates, you can get really interesting ambient = effects out of it. And I played my entire Y2KX set using the M13 plus a few upstream = stompboxes. What's missing for me with the M13 relative to the AM8000R from a signal = flow standpoint is if I want to get some straight signal in addition to = the ambient effects. There are definitely interesting effects to get by = cranking the mix to fully wet on the earlier effects and reprocessing = with the later effects and this isn't really viable with the Line6 = effects if you also want some dry signal since each effects section just = feeds into the next. If you've got even a simple mixer available, = however, that problem goes away and with the M13 you could use the = effects loop to basically get two separate runs of effects. So, it's a = little less flexible than having one really powerful box with an overall = wet/dry mix, but unlike the Korg unit, I don't end up needing a rack and = it's a lot easier to tweak on the fly. Now, I just need it to offer some things like feedback on the pitch = shifter... The Octo/Shimmer sound is nice, but sometimes I like having = the pitch descend down rather than up. On the space front, if buying again, I would probably buy an M9 rather = than an M13 and try to find space for it on my pedal board. Right now, = the M13 sits off the pedal board though the expression pedals are on the = peal board. That said, when I'm designing my dream looper, I've been = using the M13 as a target point for a reasonable hardware configuration = allowing easy access to core features in a reasonably portable form = factor. Maybe the LP-3? (For all of the feeling that I diss the = Looperlative here, it is a very nice piece of kit. I just feel that when = people ask "why would one choose anything else" -- and that question = does get asked a lot -- it's a challenge to people who do find = themselves choosing to use something else for a variety of reasons.) Mark --Apple-Mail-278--331246557 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Jan 22, 2011, at = 2:51 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote:

I'm = thinking of getting one of these for psychedelic/ambient textures, (in = combination with laptop looping and special effects).
I'm currently = using Guitar rig 4 for this.
 
What's the verdict guys? Pro's = and cons?

Very nice delays. = The other effects are reasonably good but not that psychedelic/ambient. = Some interesting material in the filter models -- e.g., random filters = -- that might be interesting piped into a good delay, but you would = probably want to set this up on a parallel effects loop which it isn't = really set up to do. The Octo and Particle Verb reverbs are interesting = but not stunning.

For ambience, = I would probably check out the Eventide Pitchfactor and Space pedals, = but I haven't actually played with them.

I'm = coming to more deeply appreciate the Korg AM8000R again. Step modulated = phaser into pitch shifter with feedback into a fairly dense delay makes = for a great ambient background. (I can thank Mark Landman for having = programmed this stuff in before I bought mine from him. I probably = wouldn't have discovered it otherwise.) I actually like it so much, = I have two. However, I'm really only using one so I'm thinking I should = sell the second one. You have to be willing to deal with a rack = processor, but it's a stunning source of creative = ambiences.

As Jeff Duke = demonstrates, you can get really interesting ambient effects out of = it.

And I played my entire Y2KX set using the = M13 plus a few upstream stompboxes.

What's = missing for me with the M13 relative to the AM8000R from a signal flow = standpoint is if I want to get some straight signal in addition to the = ambient effects. There are definitely interesting effects to get by = cranking the mix to fully wet on the earlier effects and reprocessing = with the later effects and this isn't really viable with the Line6 = effects if you also want some dry signal since each effects section just = feeds into the next. If you've got even a simple mixer available, = however, that problem goes away and with the M13 you could use the = effects loop to basically get two separate runs of effects. So, it's a = little less flexible than having one really powerful box with an overall = wet/dry mix, but unlike the Korg unit, I don't end up needing a rack and = it's a lot easier to tweak on the fly.

Now, I = just need it to offer some things like feedback on the pitch shifter... = The Octo/Shimmer sound is nice, but sometimes I like having the pitch = descend down rather than up.

On the space = front, if buying again, I would probably buy an M9 rather than an M13 = and try to find space for it on my pedal board. Right now, the M13 sits = off the pedal board though the expression pedals are on the peal board. = That said, when I'm designing my dream looper, I've been using the M13 = as a target point for a reasonable hardware configuration allowing easy = access to core features in a reasonably portable form factor. Maybe the = LP-3? (For all of the feeling that I diss the Looperlative here, it is a = very nice piece of kit. I just feel that when people ask "why would one = choose anything else" -- and that question does get asked a lot -- it's = a challenge to people who do find themselves choosing to use something = else for a variety of = reasons.)

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-278--331246557-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 17:28:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B8D018345F; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=cr6G2Zo9gV9pCtGMP6YJHejc9J3mJPBnyT23EhGHkqs=; b=afiZYrgNF4EDOy1s9LpMdcM622ZAt9uX/FUHX/dbdexyDuXJXPM9NAVkrH6AxW7zUs VR/yAdqGXKizogNTbujnoQ1boiK0f93Ji4QTrllujTjQJg7PhRax/dzw+u3J9ZjkGSKa RvC9ujlBHXYzisHq/PHqVqA6SoiQIZQOef6GI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=Mz8Dsg8ff76hRt/4LlCcK4JsfOg2GWO2m94FLJiFuaZqki41+FPzqOxmvaBYhBT876 RRhsb4o3yRq9UK1S5737RiZmlN+IC2UWi5zCkot4X+fSKlFV4Q5m3kMD2nE1o8xldhRh TWYP3b4Q13Wco4vPy64CToYTPabpa8M5L+28w= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: stereo From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:28:07 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Amen, Bill!=20 It's easier said than done for me. I have to constantly steer myself = back on track. -Todd Matthews On Jan 23, 2011, at 11:55 AM, William Walker wrote: > It was my not my intent to diss the use of stereo, For crying out loud = guys, I use stereo all the time, the recent recordings I've been doing = are actually using two separate rigs in stereo recorded simultaneously. = But when I do a gig , often times I am not offered the luxury of either = a stereo house sound or stereo monitors. If I'm playing solo and = bringing my stereo pa, I might be forced to aim on speaker out and on on = the floor facing back at me. In fact it has been my experience that = stereo is usually the exception not the norm, in live sound systems. So = what do I do now that I don't have my precious stereo security blanket? = I use different delays in series set to different beat values to create = the illusion of strereo imaging. It may not fullfill all of you stereo = experts ear candy needs but it works for me in real world situations = where stereo is not available. Obviously if you always have the luxury = of stereo when you play live this point is moot, but I don't . Also I = was getting at an underlying issue that I didn't really clarify but is = something I've had on my mind recently, and that is I'm going through a = personal reavaluation in my own life about what is really necessary to = create music and what is not. Over the summer I did 20 gigs with an = RnB singer friend of mine where we had so little set space for gear that = I could only bring one amp. Now for the last 10 years or so my live band = rig has always included two tube amps, in stereo split from my fulltone = chorus. But over the course of several gigs, though I missed the vox amp = and its sublime tremolo, I realized it wasn't essential to playing well = and having a good experience. I've had the same epiphany about loopers = lately. My looping has been refined to fewer and fewer tracks and a new = acoustic duo project I'm putting together will have some looping, but it = will probably be simplified to a pair of simple loopers (we'll be using = 2 LP-2's for syncing to each other). The idea is that we will use loops = very sparingly and concentrate I writing material that doesn't even need = looping to be delivered. The overall feeling I have had , is that = technology needs to take a backseat so that I can get back to what for = me is most essential , and that is writing good music. > Bill >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 17:30:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7034E18347A; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jYt4+vkvUnixDKsi15EatS5qr7CunJMSalIpOHH94EU=; b=jxLjWr/vCciEBQvmgbi0oFj6qKLbeOeas0gB75twX72GIvrBRpoiwjYbVOmB2ZgoSD tJOnOqDOWxYe6/K/jmyeg6bOyzr8viMP5dNBD12nG/I7J0KcKzKcnpKGdOTJWbXEWBJQ e0p7UtEj9HTtteBIueWxkBW/dRzxUb5tBtK00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o86EyUtsl+EeD7o0Y6iyQ5WLfmYFcR731qA58AWyvU2yp03sv1Ux3AnXSdts/9q+dc V2HZcQMu+/SppPoBlmMXhEmgNJFTFDpDgvbvBTz2E21q05yBSxBVoWIhqu4bWCVQNpin 6gODDdcmwd076JYsb2SknfKmjt7FKudnkYWto= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> References: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:30:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: stereo From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:30:37 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 5:55 PM, William Walker wrote: > stereo I tend to like playing instruments as mono because it allows you a better intonation for playing and gives a more powerful sound. When looping though, you create a background horizon while playing the upfront instrument and then I think stereo is great - for the looper return signal that is, not for my instrument. Two days ago I had a great experience in live stereo (!) when doing a gig at a festival held at a theater venue. The sound system was mounted with big left and right full-range speakers under the ceiling right over the front corners of the stage and then both left and right side had an additional side-fill speaker at the back, behind the audience. Finally the mighty sub woofers were hidden under the seats, cinema-style. After my gig I enjoyed the other artists and the players that used stereo sounded extremely cool in that venue! But I enjoyed a Joni Mitchel type singer-guitarsploinker-songwriter just as much, but then rather for the music than for a spaced out sound ;-)) Preparing an upcoming octaphonic gig here now. That's fun but the challenge is that you can't expect to literally hear what it feels like until local sound check time. So you need to work with imagined sound fields when designing the setup. I certainly agree with Bill that "sound" can't replace music, but truths like this should be understood on a discussion board like LD :-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 17:51:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74A1618345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 899753.36237.bm@omp1032.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=kk96nuYqn7KugAKhcFohBplIpApj3UU1qjVDFph/wUU0CdBNjj+7dugov7fjIcYT7S5/muY2iLoUeFBA342HaepOR6B0JRzYkaT1OZAVlAfBGz5SWsBACbn37ppA5axkP4BJZr5Zq1tAZWmEfwF9NDP/z94YltBEwgJrYrbLsfc= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1295805074; bh=q+5tXYHpkz6vHh62avqCptkMWAGo3OoWQaz2bsnJo/4=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=IxcUaIZwzXCp7U10D82Nr/dSgVmD4L1RrKfu2KfqaKZ34Al2WWC6Lm5TaMHVC+YOZfxcghsZAia5tbQ0qWzuxeMg/xcak1hEhxwUEATL9GrITJsOhC8rvrCXpDVKXzO4OtgnPAeSyJ50gsAtivSo0+Rs8bsTb1lc8OoYk7rt7mA= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: Tnuh6PoVM1k8OehX69HmsD3FYpMbYFttp_AwypwFQYxLsIB bygppcg.TQ5nq5Ux_bFqlXtq90gUUbSf6obY22jqrT2C8k117pXMWHkMMd64 64a.RYi.3_8FPdlPRp8o75R4QAtXIRwnFQbsRzVObjd4OvfOy1fzue9v6TCj EKzb7RQw2YWA4_t.9LGSPAUY.8Ko0RiQnuaW2.Bs_AnTZUqADlIHlNyjTsqj PwKE.kfao8CgBfiE4bk9krwd7W6KGqRDXc76UVDT2m5hSCb4GU16QaYzUfmh jJTNZ2m7bjvIkEvU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--329710374 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Online loop gig spam Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:51:09 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:51:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--329710374 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed http://cafenoodle.ning.com/ tonight in an hour - hope to see you there - I'd love to see some of you guys play to this community - really appreciative lovely audience :) Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-5--329710374 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII http://cafenoodle.ning.com/  tonight in an hour - hope to see you there - I'd love to see some of you guys play to this community - really appreciative lovely audience :)
 

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--Apple-Mail-5--329710374-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 17:59:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F55D18345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--329204559 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: re:m-13 m-9 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:59:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:59:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--329204559 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > mark said: "The other effects are reasonably good but not that > psychedelic/ambient. " What exactly is your criteria for psychedelic ambient Mark? I have no problem achieving lush ambient textures or psychedelic sounds out of my M-9. have you actually spent much time programming an M-9 or M-13? For ambience, I would probably check out the Eventide Pitch factor and Space pedals, but I haven't actually played with them. well of course, but then again Eventide beats everyone in the sound quality department. better A to D converters among other things. Let's see, one pitch factor $499, one Space, TBD, not yet out, but for the sake of argument lets say another $499, thats $1000 of signal processing right there. still interested Gareth? :-) if you can afford that firepower go for it as you won't be disappointed. I personally want a time factor and a Space which I saw demoed at NAMM, and was one of three things that really made my Shakespeare curl ( to quote XTC) The other two were the pigtronix Philosopher King which I've raved about before, and the new Moog lap steel which I'm hoping to check out more if I get to the factory in March. Sjaak said: The analog delays can sound very harsh and anything but warm, I don't like them personally, the DD-20 analog delay emulation is far better than the M9 or M13. Hey Sjaak are you referring to the way these delays respond to regeneration feedback? If so I see your point, when using run away regeneration I've noticed a certain harshness when going in to self oscillation but other wise They sound fine. I've used the DD-20 and it didn't seem to my ears to be any better. Could you elaborate please? Though not perfect i've enjoyed using the M-9 allot. I had an M-13 I sold to Scoots, I got rid of it purely for size reasons, needed something smaller to put on my pedal board. This is a really nice processor Gareth that can do ambience textures really well and is more loaded feature -wise than anything in its price range. The only effect I know of in its class with two expression pedal ports for effects depth morphing. This feature alone gives the M-9 so much control its ridiculous. Bill --Apple-Mail-1--329204559 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mark said: "The other = effects are reasonably good but not that psychedelic/ambient. = " 

What exactly is your criteria for = psychedelic ambient Mark?  I have no problem achieving lush ambient = textures or psychedelic  sounds out of my M-9. have you actually = spent much time programming an M-9 or M-13?

For ambience, I would = probably check out the Eventide Pitch factor and Space pedals, but I = haven't actually played with them.

well of course, but then = again Eventide beats everyone in the sound quality department. better A = to D converters among other things. Let's see, one pitch factor $499, = one Space, TBD, not yet out, but for the sake of argument lets say = another $499, thats $1000 of signal processing right there. still = interested Gareth? :-) if you can afford that firepower go for it as you = won't be disappointed. I personally want a time factor and a Space which = I saw demoed at NAMM, and was one of three things that really made my = Shakespeare curl ( to quote XTC) The other two were the pigtronix = Philosopher King which I've raved about before, and the new Moog lap = steel which I'm hoping to check out more if I get to the factory in = March.

Sjaak = said:
  The analog delays can sound very = harsh and anything but warm, I don't like
them = personally, the DD-20 analog delay emulation is far better = than
the M9 or = M13.

 Hey Sjaak are you referring to the way these delays = respond to regeneration feedback? If so I see your point, when using run = away regeneration I've noticed a certain
harshness = when going in to self oscillation but other wise They sound fine. I've = used the DD-20 and it didn't seem to my ears to be any better. Could you = elaborate please?

Though not = perfect i've enjoyed using the M-9 allot. I had an M-13 I sold to = Scoots, I got rid of it purely for size reasons, needed something = smaller to put on my pedal board. This is a really nice processor Gareth = that can do ambience textures really well and is more loaded feature = -wise than anything in its price range. The only effect I know of in its = class with two expression pedal ports for effects depth morphing. This = feature alone gives the M-9 so much control its = ridiculous.
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-1--329204559-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 18:11:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 885B118345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-283--328500954 Subject: Re: m-13 m-9 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:11:18 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:11:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-283--328500954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 23, 2011, at 9:59 AM, William Walker wrote: >> mark said: "The other effects are reasonably good but not that = psychedelic/ambient. "=20 >=20 > What exactly is your criteria for psychedelic ambient Mark? I have no = problem achieving lush ambient textures or psychedelic sounds out of my = M-9. have you actually spent much time programming an M-9 or M-13? Psychedelic, I'm not sure. It's probably a fairly flexible word. I think = I was worrying more about ambient effects and looking more at the = reverbs and pitch shifters and comparing them to what I can do with the = AM8000R. As I noted in my follow up, the Line6 units do some nice stuff, = but they aren't as flexible in routing for ambience effects unless you = can go 100% wet and they can't do the pitch shifter feedback thing. That = said, you can just run a bunch of echo programs at various delay = settings and get a nice lush background. > For ambience, I would probably check out the Eventide Pitch factor and = Space pedals, but I haven't actually played with them. >=20 > well of course, but then again Eventide beats everyone in the sound = quality department. better A to D converters among other things. Let's = see, one pitch factor $499, one Space, TBD, not yet out, but for the = sake of argument lets say another $499, thats $1000 of signal processing = right there. still interested Gareth? :-) if you can afford that = firepower go for it as you won't be disappointed. I personally want a = time factor and a Space which I saw demoed at NAMM, and was one of three = things that really made my Shakespeare curl ( to quote XTC) The other = two were the pigtronix Philosopher King which I've raved about before, = and the new Moog lap steel which I'm hoping to check out more if I get = to the factory in March. The math on the Eventide pedals has given me pause as well. The Line6 = pedals are certainly a great value for the money. So, it depends on what = criteria one is applying. Mark --Apple-Mail-283--328500954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
mark said: "The other = effects are reasonably good but not that psychedelic/ambient. = " 

What exactly is your criteria for = psychedelic ambient Mark?  I have no problem achieving lush ambient = textures or psychedelic  sounds out of my M-9. have you actually = spent much time programming an M-9 or = M-13?

Psychedelic, I'm not sure. = It's probably a fairly flexible word. I think I was worrying more about = ambient effects and looking more at the reverbs and pitch shifters and = comparing them to what I can do with the AM8000R. As I noted in my = follow up, the Line6 units do some nice stuff, but they aren't as = flexible in routing for ambience effects unless you can go 100% wet and = they can't do the pitch shifter feedback thing. That said, you can just = run a bunch of echo programs at various delay settings and get a nice = lush background.

For ambience, I would probably check out the Eventide = Pitch factor and Space pedals, but I haven't actually played with = them.

well of course, but then again Eventide beats everyone = in the sound quality department. better A to D converters among other = things. Let's see, one pitch factor $499, one Space, TBD, not yet out, = but for the sake of argument lets say another $499, thats $1000 of = signal processing right there. still interested Gareth? :-) if you can = afford that firepower go for it as you won't be disappointed. I = personally want a time factor and a Space which I saw demoed at NAMM, = and was one of three things that really made my Shakespeare curl ( to = quote XTC) The other two were the pigtronix Philosopher King which I've = raved about before, and the new Moog lap steel which I'm hoping to check = out more if I get to the factory in = March.

The math on = the Eventide pedals has given me pause as well. The Line6 pedals are = certainly a great value for the money. So, it depends on what criteria = one is = applying.

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-283--328500954-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 18:22:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 453E2183474; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2383557d-3a5a-41d6-ace8-1c361c95b453_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: m-13 m-9 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:22:19 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2011 18:22:20.0436 (UTC) FILETIME=[7910DD40:01CBBB2A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:22:21 +0000 (UTC) --_2383557d-3a5a-41d6-ace8-1c361c95b453_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well that's a relief 'cause I just picked one=2C(m13) up from evilbay pret= ty cheap..=20 I need to get my face out of the computer for a change. I fancy doing a bit= of noodling by the fire on these cold winter evenings and don't fancy drag= ging my computer/soundcard/pedal board etc into the living room. btw are the switches noisy=2C (physically I mean) ? =20 G =20 =20 This is a really nice processor Gareth that can do ambience textures really= well and is more loaded feature -wise than anything in its price range. Th= e only effect I know of in its class with two expression pedal ports for ef= fects depth morphing. This feature alone gives the M-9 so much control its = ridiculous. Bill = --_2383557d-3a5a-41d6-ace8-1c361c95b453_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well that's a relief 'cause I just picked one=2C(m13)  =3Bup from e= vilbay pretty cheap..
I need to get my face out of the computer for a change. I fancy doing a bit= of noodling by the fire on these cold winter evenings and =3Bdon't fan= cy =3Bdragging my computer/soundcard/pedal board =3Betc into the li= ving room.
btw are the switches noisy=2C (physically I mean) ?
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This is a re= ally nice processor Gareth that can do ambience textures really well and is= more loaded feature -wise than anything in its price range. The only effec= t I know of in its class with two expression pedal ports for effects depth = morphing. This feature alone gives the M-9 so much control its ridiculous.<= /FONT>
 = =3BBill
= --_2383557d-3a5a-41d6-ace8-1c361c95b453_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 18:23:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88C5318347E; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <67AC6ECA-41A7-495A-8E1A-5E3B7211E805@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--327792927 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: m13 - m9 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:23:06 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:23:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--327792927 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark said: What's missing for me with the M13 relative to the AM8000R from a signal flow standpoint is if I want to get some straight signal in addition to the ambient effects. There are definitely interesting effects to get by cranking the mix to fully wet on the earlier effects and reprocessing with the later effects and this isn't really viable with the Line6 effects if you also want some dry signal since each effects section just feeds into the next. Maybe you are using a different effect than me???? There are a few dry thru delays on the M-9/13 that allow just what you are taking about, and then there are individual mix controls for every effect, which will do the same thing, So you are lamenting the lack of a wet and dry output? Mark, i can't wait to see the looper/multi effect you have on the design board. It will have every feature known to mankind!!!! Regarding mix settings. Just recently I have been taking a closer look at the wah pedals on the M-9. Because my M-9 is placed after my compressor and guitar preamp, its not in an ideal place to put a wah pedal, as it sounds too peaky and over the top to be usefull. However because you can tweek any parameter of the wah including the mix, I have found I can create a very subtle yet effective wah sound that doesn't overload the midrange but still provides an expressive vocal quality. The ability to fine tune the wah's throw characteristics and its overall depth is really an outstanding feature. My favorites are the wah called throaty and the colorsound wah sim which makes me nostalgic for a color sound wah I owned briefly back in the day. Bill --Apple-Mail-2--327792927 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Mark = said:
What's missing for me with = the M13 relative to the AM8000R from a signal flow standpoint is if I = want to get some straight signal in addition to the ambient effects. = There are definitely interesting effects to get by cranking the mix to = fully wet on the earlier effects and reprocessing with the later effects = and this isn't really viable with the Line6 effects if you also want = some dry signal since each effects section just feeds into the = next. 

Maybe you are = using a different effect than me???? There are a few dry thru delays on = the M-9/13  that allow just what you are taking about, and then = there are individual mix controls for every effect, which will do the = same thing, So you are lamenting the lack of a wet and dry output? =  Mark,  i can't wait to see the looper/multi effect you have = on the design board. It will have every feature known to = mankind!!!!
 Regarding mix = settings. Just recently I have been taking a closer look at the wah = pedals on the M-9. Because my M-9 is placed after my compressor and = guitar preamp, its not in an ideal place to put a wah pedal, as it = sounds too peaky and over the top to be usefull. However because you can = tweek any parameter of the wah including the mix, I have found I can = create a very subtle yet effective wah sound that doesn't overload the = midrange but still provides an expressive vocal quality. The ability to = fine tune the wah's throw characteristics and its overall depth is = really an outstanding feature. My favorites are the wah called throaty = and the colorsound wah sim which makes me nostalgic for a color sound = wah I owned briefly back in the day.
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-2--327792927-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 18:35:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 214D8183488; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=A3QXcDhU9Ni2wIXgkIzANrJW4g2dXxQ123aeP9EiezE=; b=eOpfgqNeIfHNFZB6nLKsgf6vMRztIkqFbxu2U/GFf9VIjVmm+Wsq88l3moE2WAAjjl /JIf1+A6gsmlxwpWVXvZCSVEcbfkiorqffcdrhqjS+KM8iF/dgASdTrPCqtrYy8IUY+4 qRQ69ArinF/njb6VNZ57s7azVLDWNnLaq95c8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CvfBSg7MX6GkaOHf6YkV9Wv76zBx5wg+OrnXKiBLHh2dH+svyrX4bxy/kDnR22RzcV ypJ2ETQLYENFtbSyopKgQyxBh0JhNGxhzi0Q4ZGAt/O8DL5nKlm5y79fXTdkA/aQbzk2 e5UuVQxLcrVY2DPoezwnQH1ObKN/vReobqK0w= Message-ID: <4D3C74FC.90705@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:35:40 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: m13 - m9 References: <67AC6ECA-41A7-495A-8E1A-5E3B7211E805@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <67AC6ECA-41A7-495A-8E1A-5E3B7211E805@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:35:44 +0000 (UTC) William Walker schrieb: > Mark said: > What's missing for me with the M13 relative to the AM8000R from a > signal flow standpoint is if I want to get some straight signal in > addition to the ambient effects. There are definitely interesting > effects to get by cranking the mix to fully wet on the earlier effects > and reprocessing with the later effects and this isn't really viable > with the Line6 effects if you also want some dry signal since each > effects section just feeds into the next. > > Maybe you are using a different effect than me???? There are a few dry > thru delays on the M-9/13 that allow just what you are taking about, > and then there are individual mix controls for every effect, which > will do the same thing, So you are lamenting the lack of a wet and dry > output? Mark, i can't wait to see the looper/multi effect you have > on the design board. It will have every feature known to mankind!!!! The way I understand Mark's post - and from the M9 manual it seems it's not possible with the M9: Let's say you want the following: Your dry signal goes into a pitch shifter. The full wet pitch shifted signal goes into a delay (50/50 mix). Then both the output of the delay and the dry signal go into a reverb. The way I understand the M9's routing concept (which is, basically, like three stompboxes in series), that is not possible with the M9. Btw, Mark, perhaps you can find a Sony GR-MP5 w/ optional remote control for next to nothing - because that's something this old Sony thing can do. (but then again, it's a 9.5'' rack unit). Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 18:40:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 086D7183492; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: jayrope LD To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110123175118.33593183466@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: stereo Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:40:03 +0100 References: <20110123175118.33593183466@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Bill, in fact i very much agree to your post.. Technology is just not musicality per se, and furthermore stereo is similarly best, when it is either right, center or left, which is even fully compatible to mono. Reminds me of that old sound engineers' rule: if you want to find a good panning within the stereo field, then adjust it, while listening to a mono signal. Ha. It works, brilliantly. J - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On Jan 23, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > It was my not my intent to diss the use of stereo, For crying out > loud guys, I use stereo all the time, the recent recordings I've > been doing are actually using two separate rigs in stereo recorded > simultaneously. But when I do a gig , often times I am not offered > the luxury of either a stereo house sound or stereo monitors. If I'm > playing solo and bringing my stereo pa, I might be forced to aim on > speaker out and on on the floor facing back at me. In fact it has > been my experience that stereo is usually the exception not the > norm, in live sound systems. So what do I do now that I don't have > my precious stereo security blanket? I use different delays in > series set to different beat values to create the illusion of > strereo imaging. It may not fullfill all of you stereo experts ear > candy needs but it works for me in real world situations where > stereo is not available. Obviously if you always have the luxury of > stereo when you play live this point is moot, but I don't . Also I > was getting at an underlying issue that I didn't really clarify but > is something I've had on my mind recently, and that is I'm going > through a personal reavaluation in my own life about what is really > necessary to create music and what is not. Over the summer I did > 20 gigs with an RnB singer friend of mine where we had so little > set space for gear that I could only bring one amp. Now for the last > 10 years or so my live band rig has always included two tube amps, > in stereo split from my fulltone chorus. But over the course of > several gigs, though I missed the vox amp and its sublime tremolo, I > realized it wasn't essential to playing well and having a good > experience. I've had the same epiphany about loopers lately. My > looping has been refined to fewer and fewer tracks and a new > acoustic duo project I'm putting together will have some looping, > but it will probably be simplified to a pair of simple loopers > (we'll be using 2 LP-2's for syncing to each other). The idea is > that we will use loops very sparingly and concentrate I writing > material that doesn't even need looping to be delivered. The overall > feeling I have had , is that technology needs to take a backseat so > that I can get back to what for me is most essential , and that is > writing good music. > Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 18:51:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A149B183476; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7767E35C-C9EA-486B-B6D9-D95CB6679232@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110123175118.5BAB6183474@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--326075273 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: stereo Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:51:44 -0800 References: <20110123175118.5BAB6183474@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <_z9zcC.A.twG.HjHPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:51:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--326075273 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I certainly agree with Bill that "sound" can't replace music, but > truths like this should be understood on a discussion board like LD > :-) > > Per Yes Per, one would hope that would be the case.............but not everyone on this list is as in touch with the muse as you are, nor do they have the musical confidence you enjoy. Also not everyone has the work ethic and commitment you have displayed in getting your rig together and digging deeply in to it. And many folks are more tethered to their technology than you might be. Bill --Apple-Mail-3--326075273 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  

I = certainly agree with Bill that "sound" can't replace music, = but
truths like this should be understood on a discussion board like = LD
:-)

Per

Yes Per, = one would hope that would be the case.............but not everyone on = this list is as in touch with the muse as you are,  nor do they = have the musical confidence you enjoy.  Also not everyone has the = work ethic and commitment you have displayed in getting your rig = together and digging deeply in to it.  And many folks are more = tethered to their technology than you might = be. 
 Bill




= --Apple-Mail-3--326075273-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 18:52:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7973F18347B; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vKC23RFg6oSt48DeF8x8DIKkFaWGkmb9BrYJuxClROA=; b=xqZrHq/HmtHLWz428Rx1VbuMyLmikEZxHAKUuoZ2y46qYGtGSwpguGRADLcqWW623d 6tUS3t2G3wpNIx89SOI/BmTq2j+IrTKsxJ6Rn6jYOKteJ/oHKzNl2KEDtI4thx0OfVqN QsZoz1mVAj1wKmqbTm3qMsciLcjzmBf0RdFAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bMpZjMo995l8juRpOZrLMSH5yxUlmW+i/h1h7dMKB+yQ3VL8qK4mkqDILz6RF5Xi5/ wxywrwnUkiwOzn31vy1sCGUnvuICyHvmDyUtn9q19ZTXKz3L/Q94UbeU28YWf6gdmN1Y skCqKdCT+vD+CnxZnZDF8c2dxzlDR8AgwrCzM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3C74FC.90705@googlemail.com> References: <67AC6ECA-41A7-495A-8E1A-5E3B7211E805@baymoon.com> <4D3C74FC.90705@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:52:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: m13 - m9 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8eee0bb9be049a87fd28 Resent-Message-ID: <61YJNB.A.H2G.9jHPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:52:45 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8eee0bb9be049a87fd28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Of course the M9 isn't perfect, I personally think that the delays could be better quality. I wish it had better level controls for some patches, especially filters. I am thinking Obi Wah in particular will clip like mad on some of the peaks probably like the wahs you mentioned Bill. my m9 runs after the preamp /comp pedals also. There are other things but... What is does right is give me tons of cool sounding fx in a tiny footprint. Y2K would have been difficult for me if it wasn't for this little beastie! The ex peds give me plenty of control also. I really do like the looper for pre fx use. I feed it to some Alesis mod fx and a Vortex, then into my 2 other loopers (2880, DD 20) I want Eventide Space pedal also but will have to sell something to get it! Agree Rainer about the 100% wet/dry split but I wasn't looking for that in this instance. In the old days much of the good rack stuff had this feature if i remember right. The buttons are a bit noisy but it doesn't affect me since I run direct into my computer for everything at home. It might if you mic. best, J On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > William Walker schrieb: > >> Mark said: >> What's missing for me with the M13 relative to the AM8000R from a signal >> flow standpoint is if I want to get some straight signal in addition to the >> ambient effects. There are definitely interesting effects to get by cranking >> the mix to fully wet on the earlier effects and reprocessing with the later >> effects and this isn't really viable with the Line6 effects if you also want >> some dry signal since each effects section just feeds into the next. >> Maybe you are using a different effect than me???? There are a few dry >> thru delays on the M-9/13 that allow just what you are taking about, and >> then there are individual mix controls for every effect, which will do the >> same thing, So you are lamenting the lack of a wet and dry output? Mark, i >> can't wait to see the looper/multi effect you have on the design board. It >> will have every feature known to mankind!!!! >> > The way I understand Mark's post - and from the M9 manual it seems it's not > possible with the M9: > > Let's say you want the following: > Your dry signal goes into a pitch shifter. The full wet pitch shifted > signal goes into a delay (50/50 mix). Then both the output of the delay and > the dry signal go into a reverb. > > The way I understand the M9's routing concept (which is, basically, like > three stompboxes in series), that is not possible with the M9. > Btw, Mark, perhaps you can find a Sony GR-MP5 w/ optional remote control > for next to nothing - because that's something this old Sony thing can do. > (but then again, it's a 9.5'' rack unit). > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > --90e6ba6e8eee0bb9be049a87fd28 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Of course the M9 isn't perfect, I personally think that the delays coul= d be better quality. I wish it had better level controls for some patches, = especially filters. I am thinking Obi Wah in particular will clip like mad = on some of the peaks probably like the wahs you mentioned Bill. my m9 runs = after the preamp /comp pedals also. There are other things but...

What is does right is give me tons of cool sounding fx in a tiny footpr= int. Y2K would have been difficult for me if it wasn't for this little = beastie! The ex peds give me plenty of control also. I really do like the l= ooper for pre fx use. I feed it to some Alesis mod fx and a Vortex, then in= to my 2 other loopers (2880, DD 20)

I want Eventide Space pedal also but will have to sell something to get= it!

Agree Rainer about the 100% wet/dry split but I wasn't look= ing for that in this instance. In the old days much of the good rack stuff = had this feature if i remember right.

The buttons are a bit noisy but it doesn't=A0 affect me since I run= direct into my computer for everything at home. It might if you mic.
best,

J

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at = 1:35 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
William Walker sc= hrieb:
=A0Mark said:
What's missing for me with the M13 relative to the AM8000R from a signa= l flow standpoint is if I want to get some straight signal in addition to t= he ambient effects. There are definitely interesting effects to get by cran= king the mix to fully wet on the earlier effects and reprocessing with the = later effects and this isn't really viable with the Line6 effects if yo= u also want some dry signal since each effects section just feeds into the = next.
Maybe you are using a different effect than me???? There are a few dry thru= delays on the M-9/13 =A0that allow just what you are taking about, and the= n there are individual mix controls for every effect, which will do the sam= e thing, So you are lamenting the lack of a wet and dry output? =A0Mark, = =A0i can't wait to see the looper/multi effect you have on the design b= oard. It will have every feature known to mankind!!!!
The way I understand Mark's post - and from the M9 manual it seems it&#= 39;s not possible with the M9:

Let's say you want the following:
Your dry signal goes into a pitch shifter. The full wet pitch shifted signa= l goes into a delay (50/50 mix). Then both the output of the delay and the = dry signal go into a reverb.

The way I understand the M9's routing concept (which is, basically, lik= e three stompboxes in series), that is not possible with the M9.
Btw, Mark, perhaps you can find a Sony GR-MP5 w/ optional remote control fo= r next to nothing - because that's something this old Sony thing can do= . (but then again, it's a 9.5'' rack unit).

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

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--90e6ba6e8eee0bb9be049a87fd28-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 19:19:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A5C9183480; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-288--324409245 Subject: Re: m13 - m9 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:19:30 -0800 In-Reply-To: <67AC6ECA-41A7-495A-8E1A-5E3B7211E805@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <67AC6ECA-41A7-495A-8E1A-5E3B7211E805@baymoon.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:19:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-288--324409245 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:23 AM, William Walker wrote: > Mark said: > What's missing for me with the M13 relative to the AM8000R from a = signal flow standpoint is if I want to get some straight signal in = addition to the ambient effects. There are definitely interesting = effects to get by cranking the mix to fully wet on the earlier effects = and reprocessing with the later effects and this isn't really viable = with the Line6 effects if you also want some dry signal since each = effects section just feeds into the next.=20 >=20 > Maybe you are using a different effect than me???? There are a few dry = thru delays on the M-9/13 that allow just what you are taking about, = and then there are individual mix controls for every effect, which will = do the same thing, So you are lamenting the lack of a wet and dry = output? Mark, i can't wait to see the looper/multi effect you have on = the design board. It will have every feature known to mankind!!!! Here is what I'm doing with the AM8000R and I find it adds some really = nice ambience behind the loops (note the emphasis on "behind the = loops")... Stepped Phaser -> Pitch Shifter with Feedback --> Delay/Reverb (I think pretty much all of my sets other than Y2KX have had something = along these lines sitting in the background.) The feed through on those effects tends to be 100% wet from one to the = next (or at least pretty heavily biased toward wet) but I can route the = dry signal around them for an overall dry/wet mix that can let the = ambience sink into the background. The individual effects on the M9/M13 = tend to have mix controls but you can't say take 100% of the Particle = Verb and feed it into the Obi-Wah and then feed that into a delay and = then mix that all behind the initial dry signal. To do that, you either = need a more complicated effect that folds the pieces all together or you = need a mixer -- though it wouldn't need to be a terribly sophisticated = mixer. This comes up because I've been looking at eliminating my rack and = comparing what the AM8000R lets me do with what the M13 lets me do and = finding that I don't have quite as much flexibility (let alone missing = the pitch shifter feedback effect). Not having actually used them, I = don't know whether the Eventide boxes would handle this either since = again it would depend on having an appropriate all-in-one effect for = which one could then set a wet/dry mix. But for a floor-pedal only set = up, I've definitely been tempted toward using two effects in the M13 on = the signal out of my analog chain, then running out the effects loop = into a looper, and then using two more effects post-looper. = (Unfortunately, Line6 won't let me just stick their looper in the middle = of the chain.) A pedal board friendly mixer and some splitting support = would make this even more flexible and would resolve the above wet/dry = issues. > Regarding mix settings. Just recently I have been taking a closer = look at the wah pedals on the M-9. Because my M-9 is placed after my = compressor and guitar preamp, its not in an ideal place to put a wah = pedal, as it sounds too peaky and over the top to be usefull. However = because you can tweek any parameter of the wah including the mix, I have = found I can create a very subtle yet effective wah sound that doesn't = overload the midrange but still provides an expressive vocal quality. = The ability to fine tune the wah's throw characteristics and its overall = depth is really an outstanding feature. My favorites are the wah called = throaty and the colorsound wah sim which makes me nostalgic for a color = sound wah I owned briefly back in the day. Cool. I may have to play more with the Line6 wah models since I'm = finding my Weeping Demon to be a bit bulky on the pedal board. Mark --Apple-Mail-288--324409245 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 Mark = said:
What's missing for me with = the M13 relative to the AM8000R from a signal flow standpoint is if I = want to get some straight signal in addition to the ambient effects. = There are definitely interesting effects to get by cranking the mix to = fully wet on the earlier effects and reprocessing with the later effects = and this isn't really viable with the Line6 effects if you also want = some dry signal since each effects section just feeds into the = next. 

Maybe you are = using a different effect than me???? There are a few dry thru delays on = the M-9/13  that allow just what you are taking about, and then = there are individual mix controls for every effect, which will do the = same thing, So you are lamenting the lack of a wet and dry output? =  Mark,  i can't wait to see the looper/multi effect you have = on the design board. It will have every feature known to = mankind!!!!

Here is what I'm doing with the AM8000R and I find it adds some = really nice ambience behind the loops (note the emphasis on "behind the = loops")...

Stepped Phaser -> Pitch = Shifter with Feedback --> Delay/Reverb

(I = think pretty much all of my sets other than Y2KX have had something = along these lines sitting in the = background.)

The feed through on those effects = tends to be 100% wet from one to the next (or at least pretty heavily = biased toward wet) but I can route the dry signal around them for an = overall dry/wet mix that can let the ambience sink into the background. = The individual effects on the M9/M13 tend to have mix controls but you = can't say take 100% of the Particle Verb and feed it into the Obi-Wah = and then feed that into a delay and then mix that all behind the initial = dry signal. To do that, you either need a more complicated effect that = folds the pieces all together or you need a mixer -- though it wouldn't = need to be a terribly sophisticated mixer.

This = comes up because I've been looking at eliminating my rack and comparing = what the AM8000R lets me do with what the M13 lets me do and finding = that I don't have quite as much flexibility (let alone missing the pitch = shifter feedback effect). Not having actually used them, I don't = know whether the Eventide boxes would handle this either since again it = would depend on having an appropriate all-in-one effect for which one = could then set a wet/dry mix. But for a floor-pedal only set up, I've = definitely been tempted toward using two effects in the M13 on the = signal out of my analog chain, then running out the effects loop into a = looper, and then using two more effects post-looper. (Unfortunately, = Line6 won't let me just stick their looper in the middle of the chain.) = A pedal board friendly mixer and some splitting support would make this = even more flexible and would resolve the above wet/dry = issues.


 Regarding mix settings. Just recently I have = been taking a closer look at the wah pedals on the M-9. Because my M-9 = is placed after my compressor and guitar preamp, its not in an ideal = place to put a wah pedal, as it sounds too peaky and over the top to be = usefull. However because you can tweek any parameter of the wah = including the mix, I have found I can create a very subtle yet effective = wah sound that doesn't overload the midrange but still provides an = expressive vocal quality. The ability to fine tune the wah's throw = characteristics and its overall depth is really an outstanding feature. = My favorites are the wah called throaty and the colorsound wah sim which = makes me nostalgic for a color sound wah I owned briefly back in the = day.

Cool. I = may have to play more with the Line6 wah models since I'm finding my = Weeping Demon to be a bit bulky on the pedal = board.

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-288--324409245-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 19:45:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3578183486; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:45:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QdEhxT3rVf/WXy2uic8asA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-23_07:2011-01-21,2011-01-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1101230083 Message-id: From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: midi converters KM string port vs roland GI20 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:44:35 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:45:02 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_QdEhxT3rVf/WXy2uic8asA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Louie: This should do the trick - if I'm understanding what you want to do, that is MP3 to MIDI and WAVE to MIDI Converter: WIDISOFT Features I use this in Ableton and Rax for driving software synths via audio (recorder/ guitar) signal. The Sonuus G2M worked pretty well also though going the software plugin route eliminated another chunk of hardware - a good thing...... - Paul (soundcloud.com/r369improv) On Jan 23, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >>> >>> im looking to get a midi converter to notate music and trigger >>> software synths,i know i can do it with my roland GR33 but i m >>> selling >>> it and want to get something small for my desk anyway. >>> thanx >>> Luis >>> >> > --Boundary_(ID_QdEhxT3rVf/WXy2uic8asA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Louie:
This = should do the trick - if I'm understanding what you want to do, that = is

MP3 = to MIDI and WAVE to MIDI Converter: WIDISOFT = Features

I= use this in Ableton and Rax for driving software synths via audio = (recorder/ guitar) signal.  The Sonuus G2M worked pretty well also = though going the software plugin route eliminated another chunk of = hardware - a good thing......

- Paul = (soundcloud.com/r369improv)


<= br>
On Jan 23, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Louie Angulo = wrote:

im looking to get a midi = converter to notate music and = trigger
software synths,i know i can do it with my roland GR33 = but i m selling
it and want to get something = small for my desk anyway.
thanx
Luis




= --Boundary_(ID_QdEhxT3rVf/WXy2uic8asA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 20:25:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F107B183477; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1295814344; bh=AO2s29pKuRi/BN1HfXaV9NMW/O9FV0Hb5EWgK6e2S+s=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=izxahRJJEibTxGO3pUxBi6EaRopfmJsue+brSzyzTZZiRAw+xPM4hsfzxIeMxq2NrrsUej96/kKWsh0N5BGHUNajBXHvdDfxgSPTLMS/cvQXOr0E86vVQNwVA0WELExs1KRehHyDpBAF2UCtkA1Nk+0ohKgwrzHkQmiPnXuZg5U= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 701067.21827.bm@smtp121.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: yU3KJY4VM1myMKzk0aNnfvRiiEFMFA9XCClb5JCPVIQ1RzB vfZIhgMTEYULsoTNZkT.dTGdjDzlHVMt2Y2vCUMTc.s4Nd4YhGXVogAUa3pn 2_i.i2doco58qHPxE3.SshTwvGkwgzLJiudF7JOwb_HVf_p8234Ea6jM8Aws CUZKXk_fOnaPaAiNZgbbmVjMvqwlhDTiINwWXYaNP8jFrLmRz5SMgoGewuid lbS3lNnJAnHtCtz_TldGOqtaxyFezgBjnJKW._wVcfCAMbFBRv5mNHZ5H4BN TAapOXzE9zg..OCmt X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: References: Subject: Re: semi-OT: practice amp for looping Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:25:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B7_01CBBB44.163392C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:25:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01CBBB44.163392C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for the feedback Scott. I also fear that the size of the speakers on small amps might not suits = my needs. Tony K > Thank you for this input. This small vox sounds good on the = video but as it is recorded from a mic I'm not sure. I should perhaps = tried to find a store that has it and do some tests. Ben ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Scott Hansen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 5:27 PM Subject: semi-OT: practice amp for looping hi ben- here's my recommendation- i do mostly guitar loops, occasionally use my drum machine, use to = feed it random stuff recorded from small digital voice recorder = (searching for a new one of these for simple recording....) as a guitarist, i've owned one small tube amp in my life (kustom tube = 12A-ok, didn't love, still have)...to my ear, guitar amps are just so = MID-RANGEY. now i realize that most guitarists love this sound, and of course all = the classic guitarists, i love their sound (and chased it too = long....endless, although i always went gtr, since i didn't want to spend a fortune on amps). a few yrs ago when my 50 = watt SS amp died & the repair i paid double the price of the original = amp for, didn't last more than 9 mo's. i decided to go small cheap, had = little 10 watt marshall (ok), then got the kustom above (ok), but i = found that for me, the tiny speakers, just SUCK! now i don't play loud = at all at home in my studio, and i honestly don't know the size of the = speaker of my old 50 watt amps (probably 10", might have been 12"), = after 2 yrs of small amps and hating them, i decided to start a hunt. = Jeff Duke uses a portable PA system amp in a bunch of his vids & I = F***ING loved his sounds, but it's a newish amp still, and couldn't find = any for under 200 beans (i'm a budget guy). so about a yr & 1/2 ago i = found a Fender Keyboard 60 amp at a local pawn shop (my fave pawn shop = that i bought a million guitars from closed back in '05, sadly), did = some research, saw a few people on harmony-central used them for gtr, i = tested the amp at the place w/ some crappy guitar there & it sounded ok. = got it home, feed it my system & setup, AND I LOVE IT. it's very clean, = which i like (this probably comes out of the nels cline model-clean amp, = dirt from pedals), but i think the range of sounds is much greater than = a guitar amp , to my ear. i like the distortion to come from my pedals, = and i like digital distortion (this probably puts me out of the running = for "guitar purist/tone snob" category). but i like the sound of it. = actually i hate playing direct now, which i would always do when i was = obsessively recording things a few yrs ago, i used to favor my direct = sound over my "live in studio sound"but not anymore. so i think keyboard amps are great, or at least i like my Fender = Keyboard 60 amp. it's the only fender thing i've ever owned in my 28 yrs = of playing.... my setup: homemade gtr-digitech rp150-fuzz machine (fuzz factory = clone)-way huge swollen pickle-digitech dl8-EH 16ddl ri-boss = slicer-behringer tweakalizer-lexicon mx200-out to my fender keyboard 60 = amp. oh, i have no idea how old it is, i got it for $105, i don't use the = reverb on it, and i never mess w/ the tone knobs on it-i think i have = everything tone wise on 10. i keep the volume a bit low, so i don't blow = out the house,it has some bottom end when i crank it. i can make the = house rattle a bit, have to do that when everyone is gone....ha... happy hunting.... -IT IS F***ING HEAVY, i would hate to move the thing around for = gigging, your back would be shot moving it.....mine stays put... the new(ish) songs posted to my myspace thing are loop experiments = recorded live w/ the fender amp to my fostex digital recorder , from a = while ago..... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Ruelle Benoit = wrote: Hello, I'm sure I'll get some good advice from the looping community so = even if it's a bit OT, i'll ask. I'm searching a small amp to practice at home. Something under 150$ = and I think that with 15W, it will be enough. I investigated something like the fender mustang, the line6 spider = or roland cube but I'll use this mainly for looping and it would be = nice to have a solution where I can overdub differents sounds with = different FX. As I won't find any amp with an FX loop in this price range and i = already have some amp modelling tool ( zoom G2 and Johnson J-Station), = would it be OK to buy a keyboard amp instead. The range will be wider = and I can also us it to loop bass/synth and voice. Any inputs regarding = this solution? Any proposal? I already tested putting my J-sation into = my home HiFi but I don't get the response I expect from a guitar amp. It = seems to lack some compression and I don't get the "oomph" that I can = get even with a very low budget amp (think the squier you get with = beginner pack). 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Thank you for the feedback = Scott.
I also fear that the size of the = speakers on small=20 amps might not suits my needs.
 
Tony K > Thank you for this input. = This small=20 vox sounds good on the video but as it is recorded from a mic I'm not = sure. I=20 should perhaps tried to find a store that has it and do some = tests.
 
Ben
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Scott=20 Hansen
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, January 22, = 2011 5:27=20 PM
Subject: semi-OT: practice amp = for=20 looping

hi ben-
here's my recommendation-
i do mostly guitar loops, occasionally use my = drum=20 machine, use to feed it random stuff recorded from small digital voice = recorder (searching for a new one of these for simple = recording....)
as a guitarist, i've owned one small tube amp = in my=20 life (kustom tube 12A-ok, didn't love, still have)...to my ear, guitar = amps=20 are just so MID-RANGEY.
now i realize that most guitarists love this = sound, and=20 of course all the classic guitarists, i love their sound (and chased = it too=20 long....endless, although i always went gtr, since
i didn't want to spend a fortune on amps). a = few yrs=20 ago when my 50 watt SS amp died & the repair i paid double the = price of=20 the original amp for, didn't last more than 9 mo's. i decided to go = small=20 cheap, had little 10 watt marshall (ok), then got the kustom above = (ok), but i=20 found that for me, the tiny speakers, just SUCK! now i don't play loud = at all=20 at home in my studio, and i honestly don't know the size of the = speaker of my=20 old 50 watt amps (probably 10", might have been 12"), after 2 yrs of = small=20 amps and hating them, i decided to start a hunt. Jeff Duke uses a = portable PA=20 system amp in a bunch of his vids & I F***ING loved his = sounds, but=20 it's a newish amp still, and couldn't find any for under 200 beans = (i'm a=20 budget guy). so about a yr & 1/2 ago i found a Fender Keyboard 60 = amp at a=20 local pawn shop (my fave pawn shop that i bought a million guitars = from closed=20 back in '05, sadly), did some research, saw a few people on = harmony-central=20 used them for gtr, i tested the amp at the place w/ some crappy guitar = there=20 & it sounded ok. got it home, feed it my system & setup,  = AND I=20 LOVE IT. it's very clean, which i like (this probably comes out of the = nels=20 cline model-clean amp, dirt from pedals), but i think the range of = sounds is=20 much greater than a guitar amp , to my ear. i like the distortion to = come from=20 my pedals, and i like digital distortion (this probably puts me out of = the=20 running for "guitar purist/tone snob" category). but i like the sound = of it.=20 actually i hate playing direct now, which i would always do when i was = obsessively recording things a few yrs ago, i used to favor my direct = sound=20 over my "live in studio  sound"but not anymore.
so i think keyboard amps are great, or at = least i like=20 my Fender Keyboard 60 amp. it's the only fender thing i've ever owned = in my 28=20 yrs of playing....
my setup: homemade gtr-digitech rp150-fuzz = machine=20 (fuzz factory clone)-way huge swollen pickle-digitech dl8-EH 16ddl = ri-boss=20 slicer-behringer tweakalizer-lexicon mx200-out to my fender keyboard = 60=20 amp.
oh, i have no idea how old it is, i got it = for $105, i=20 don't  use the reverb on it, and i never mess w/ the tone knobs = on it-i=20 think i have everything tone wise on 10. i keep the volume a bit low, = so i=20 don't blow out the house,it has some bottom end when i crank it. i can = make=20 the house rattle a bit, have to do that when everyone is = gone....ha...
happy hunting....
-IT IS F***ING HEAVY, i would hate to move = the thing=20 around for gigging, your back would be shot moving it.....mine stays=20 put...
the new(ish) songs posted to my myspace thing = are loop=20 experiments recorded live w/ the fender amp to my=20 fostex digital recorder , from a while ago.....
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen
 
 
 
 
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Ruelle = Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr>=20 wrote:
Hello,
I'm sure I'll get some good advice from = the=20 looping community so even if it's a bit OT, i'll ask.

I'm = searching a=20 small amp to practice at home. Something under 150$ and I think that = with=20 15W, it will be enough.
I investigated something like the fender = mustang,=20 the line6 spider or roland cube but I'll use this mainly for looping = and=20  it would be nice to have a solution where I can overdub = differents=20 sounds with different FX.

As I won't find any amp with an FX = loop in=20 this price range and i already have some amp modelling tool ( zoom = G2 and=20 Johnson J-Station), would it be OK to buy a keyboard amp instead. = The range=20 will be wider and I can also us it to loop bass/synth and voice. Any = inputs=20 regarding this solution? Any proposal? I already tested putting my = J-sation=20 into my home HiFi but I don't get the response I expect from a = guitar amp.=20 It seems to lack some compression and I don't get the "oomph" that I = can get=20 even with a very low budget amp (think the squier you get with = beginner=20 pack).

Thank you for any=20 info;

Ben.
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arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E903C183477; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: stereo References: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-7--320400469"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <48B693B5-702A-4B11-B149-3CBA8254BE9D@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:26:16 -0500 Thread-Topic: stereo Thread-Index: Acu7O9ftWnRIpP01R0KWDElNqWodgg== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2011 20:26:41.0274 (UTC) FILETIME=[D81265A0:01CBBB3B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:26:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--320400469 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I certainly agree with Bill that "sound" can't replace music, but truths like this should be understood on a discussion board like LD :-) Ah true Per, but thats why people go more than once to church, to get remind= ed!! Andy only the O one= --Apple-Mail-7--320400469 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgYmdjb2xvcj0iI0ZGRkZGRiI+PGRpdj48c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iQXBwbGUtc3R5 bGUtc3BhbiIgc3R5bGU9Ii13ZWJraXQtdGFwLWhpZ2hsaWdodC1jb2xvcjogcmdiYSgyNiwgMjYs IDI2LCAwLjI5Njg3NSk7IC13ZWJraXQtY29tcG9zaXRpb24tZmlsbC1jb2xvcjogcmdiYSgxNzUs IDE5MiwgMjI3LCAwLjIzMDQ2OSk7IC13ZWJraXQtY29tcG9zaXRpb24tZnJhbWUtY29sb3I6IHJn YmEoNzcsIDEyOCwgMTgwLCAwLjIzMDQ2OSk7IGZvbnQtc2l6ZTogbWVkaXVtOyAiPjxzcGFuPkkg Y2VydGFpbmx5IGFncmVlIHdpdGggQmlsbCB0aGF0ICJzb3VuZCIgY2FuJ3QgcmVwbGFjZSBtdXNp YywgYnV0PC9zcGFuPjxicj48c3Bhbj50cnV0aHMgbGlrZSB0aGlzIHNob3VsZCBiZSB1bmRlcnN0 b29kIG9uIGEgZGlzY3Vzc2lvbiBib2FyZCBsaWtlIExEPC9zcGFuPjxicj48c3Bhbj46LSk8L3Nw YW4+PC9zcGFuPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9IkFwcGxlLXN0eWxlLXNwYW4iIHN0eWxl PSItd2Via2l0LXRhcC1oaWdobGlnaHQtY29sb3I6IHJnYmEoMjYsIDI2LCAyNiwgMC4yOTY4NzUp OyAtd2Via2l0LWNvbXBvc2l0aW9uLWZpbGwtY29sb3I6IHJnYmEoMTc1LCAxOTIsIDIyNywgMC4y MzA0NjkpOyAtd2Via2l0LWNvbXBvc2l0aW9uLWZyYW1lLWNvbG9yOiByZ2JhKDc3LCAxMjgsIDE4 MCwgMC4yMzA0NjkpOyBmb250LXNpemU6IG1lZGl1bTsgIj48c3Bhbj48YnI+PC9zcGFuPjwvc3Bh bj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PjxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJBcHBsZS1zdHlsZS1zcGFuIiBzdHlsZT0iZm9udC1z aXplOiBtZWRpdW07ICI+PHNwYW4+QWggdHJ1ZSBQZXIsIGJ1dCB0aGF0cyB3aHkgcGVvcGxlIGdv IG1vcmUgdGhhbiBvbmNlIHRvIGNodXJjaCwgdG8gZ2V0IHJlbWluZGVkISE8L3NwYW4+PC9zcGFu PjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9IkFwcGxlLXN0eWxlLXNwYW4iIHN0eWxlPSJmb250LXNp emU6IG1lZGl1bTsgIj48c3Bhbj48YnI+PC9zcGFuPjwvc3Bhbj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PjxzcGFuIGNs YXNzPSJBcHBsZS1zdHlsZS1zcGFuIiBzdHlsZT0iZm9udC1zaXplOiBtZWRpdW07ICI+PHNwYW4+ QW5keSBvbmx5IHRoZSBPIG9uZTwvc3Bhbj48L3NwYW4+PC9kaXY+PC9ib2R5PjwvaHRtbD4= --Apple-Mail-7--320400469-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 20:37:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AA88183483; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3C9175.6000207@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:37:09 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dustbunnies CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: M9/M13/HD500 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:37:17 +0000 (UTC) What a stellar post.........thanks for the thoughts! They are very thought provoking. rick walker On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dustbunnies wrote: > Continuing on this line, I think that there are two other good reasons why > someone might wish to maintain stereo throughout a performance. > > The first is if the phase-cancellation and 'lost parts' that Bill mentioned > are actually a necessary element in the performance. I've put together > pieces using lots of moving delay and reverb, and the most compelling effect > from this is listening to the harmonics that drift in and out as different > frequencies in the mix cancel each other out. Many times this can (and > hopefully will) cause movement not only in the standard L/R stereo spread, > but also along the Up/Down vertical axis and the Back/Front "Z" axis of > depth. > > This was, as I understand, one of the reasons behind some of Glenn Branca's > 'deafening wall of guitars' drone symphonies. I've read reports from people > who had seen the performances live, and have heard it said that the albums > and recordings just can't do them justice. In a live setting, you evidently > could hear different harmonics and notes flying back and forth across the > room -- not only left and right, but also above you and in front or behind > you -- swooshing all around in waves. > > For looping artists who depend on this sort of harmonic interaction (I'm > guessing Sjaak may fall into this category), stereo is an essential element. > > The second reason has to do with the performer themselves. For instance, > everybody knows that musicians in the studio (vocalists especially) usually > have a set of effects put on the feed to their headphones while they're > laying down tracks. Generally, this 'sweetening' gives the musician a sense > of how great they can sound and helps to eke out the best possible > performance from them. > > Likewise, being able to hear yourself play onstage and go, "wow, I really > sound good" can be a real boost to one's performance. And since we're > talking about live improvisation here, every little bit helps. Even if some > people in the audience miss the 'sweet spot', is it better to collapse down > your sound and give a technical and uninspired performance that everyone can > hear equally well? Or is it better to 'play big' with the understanding > that stuff's going to be bouncing all over the room, and that the sound > guy's going to hate you by the end of the night?;) > > --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 22:11:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B542318345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=P1nCdnT8hB2FRBxh16dnddeScY+H++mi96l86YNL+Wg=; b=P0QNV8pav0zpz9pWfPDiaJtpWVQvp7+sEBb5PQXr/86YJ4RyNo0bRmNGTuPZp1xiVo KO6VZrz51z47qt5reztfsFyM/UwAmWdGObepfY5xGqgei1Nm16sDEEYP9ACM+OEZ+Byw scC+xvjcPxIbQ0Xb7EOh3EjTpieycemkbeKtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=WDOTZLlCbRJTHg1bZvyZhiuMhM+DAmTBlDDMTRmN5CMRrlxPnuRytSQkTgGZOMCcpl XanA2doYtHzFScEiLBxYi6yxntKHnVMY8U4uWdwGB6npCEkGPJU9zZGmTqzb1XYk00kg H1Qg7UuOD3kEa90ZyVyt+JBXi3nFH35WBYhg4= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Todd Matthews Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:10:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e87d8217145049a8ac3c8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:11:17 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e87d8217145049a8ac3c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta update. Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well after the last OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a video of me doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. I used an Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer where I controlled mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin 20 years ago was the spark of my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it: http://vimeo.com/19101413 -Todd Matthews --90e6ba6e87d8217145049a8ac3c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta update. M= ainstage has also been working much better for me as well after the last OS= X update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a video of m= e doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. I u= sed an Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer where I control= led mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin 20= years ago was the spark of my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it:



-Todd Matthe= ws
--90e6ba6e87d8217145049a8ac3c8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 23:15:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA87618345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SOSLK5W3HX31F9AN0aLXyMMZ5dYHPWLooC8oGIPusgc=; b=ECvmPKTxz/kFwVxtIXdG0+89Qc8xp5q9qSKaYLDaiR8QD16BlnE6eg0oYClRqkk73M O2yBkoDOlbxjMyqp0fYwUImOdHXu4UHNeEPlTxtBGztVFWEnE7D4p+RuIMZDsFQbQVT5 sWSpHR9IJ0OiYxj0XIYwqy4iHpoLXJOAr10u0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GlX+G8c0Yg/ffQ28ZHCD1X11+LwXzJVEkBEVepeEauU+JtDlTzQjvbZwcF6JzqbAWn UbC60U1dFmafFKwmt6zLlmhsyfC3xWvvOv7g2ewTl07fuiWhSS+bWyZi+gDLqtp5zzZl QHlrfFBONacRs+5Nw/dz5g2YZQm/RRAkx+LoY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 01:15:36 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf304344922995a4049a8ba9a6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:15:37 +0000 (UTC) --20cf304344922995a4049a8ba9a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Great! Thanks Todd!!! Always loved that tune, the lead vocal melody is so haunting! 2011/1/24 Todd Matthews > The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta update. > Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well after the last > OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a video of me > doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. I used an > Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer where I controlled > mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin 20 > years ago was the spark of my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it: > > http://vimeo.com/19101413 > > > > -Todd Matthews > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf304344922995a4049a8ba9a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great! Thanks Todd!!!

Always loved that tune, the lead vocal melody = is so haunting!

2011/1/24 Todd Matthews <= span dir=3D"ltr"><gtmatthews@gma= il.com>
The softstep is w= orking much better for me after this latest beta update. Mainstage has also= been working much better for me as well after the last OSX update. I'v= e been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a video of me doing a looping= version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. I used an Eventide P= itchfactor before I went into the computer where I controlled mainstage and= Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin 20 years ago was th= e spark of my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it:


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-Todd Matthews



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http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
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--20cf304344922995a4049a8ba9a6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 23:34:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88C1318345D; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GlI8w03b_ncA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=WbgBCZdNG0XVMjCYW9IA:9 a=kt0a42ggCQA4UFI4ggWAJe2X0ToA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <564F252B-0091-472F-A2BD-D7136AE8C58C@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48B693B5-702A-4B11-B149-3CBA8254BE9D@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: MUSIC & TECHNOLOGY (Was Re: stereo) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:34:42 -0800 References: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> <48B693B5-702A-4B11-B149-3CBA8254BE9D@1800dialword.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Howdy all! Different tools (whether our personally chosen instruments or our preferred levels of applied musical technology) sometime suggest or influence wholly different musical directions and outcomes. When I set aside electrical technology (as I sometime do for a time) I tend to play guitar and sound like a folk musician (some rough approximation of the Leo Kottke style of finger-picked guitar playing). This is neither bad nor good, it's just what that musical situation is for me personally. If civilization were to collapse and all this technology disappear, that's probably what I would continue doing in order to amuse myself musically. But in the hyper-techno-glutted and connected world that is, we already have one Leo Kottke - of which I am only a pale and inept copy. So, when I apply some level of electricty to the mix of things available to me (say looping and/or FX) my imaginative horizons are much less hemmed in by my own technical proficiencies (or lack thereof). I can both imagine and play many other things in many other tonal colors that I might never have considered otherwise. Alas, having an instrument (or some combination of instrument and applied technology) that simply produces gorgeous and/or interesting timbres all by itself (with modest technique), and loops them up into overwhelming walls orchestral stereo sound, does tend to make one gravitate in the direction of greater dependence on the "sonic enhancements" of said technology than in acquiring greater motor- physical command over an instrument and/or deeper conceptual musical skills. That is a problem with any technology. These are just some thoughts . . . I am not even sure I will agree with what I said 5 minutes from now. I'm not even sure where I was going with it. Stereo? Oh, I definitely approve of it . . . I have 2 ears. :-) Ted On Jan 23, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > I certainly agree with Bill that "sound" can't replace music, but > truths like this should be understood on a discussion board like LD > :-) > > Ah true Per, but thats why people go more than once to church, to > get reminded!! > > Andy only the O one From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 23 23:46:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA72F18345B; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=20oOxICyi/yrN8l/YO5mKBso91PPd5q512KqvbOpTRQ=; b=T7tApA9iv5Vcn2rO02HFpmSJAx5C5noeL1GungSX+RdZnrc3GqDUfU6TqhG+y176eM zZDH02hWmfkrzW1qWZDNl04H+03VtUQkKBJh9jSbDAihIRmFBWz0Ouh+TRj3MsFmN0OR S2MZEK+/O9np5HPEU3AO4RtaSSg7lJq4bIlXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xh0X7M2z3b9IprC0DNT3vzfODl3WEyHd6PifSG/Be6lBl0P8zdGJ/6UDtlQx/aauK3 vkfG2sLgTbgA90vR2dv9u4kxYIVbAxFah4ecDT0IE77kvuUe3HhNHx9aUqGLD/nP0B0B p5UI/P4RbQmuk8H31dqESLOwSqKXwjtSF8zqk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <564F252B-0091-472F-A2BD-D7136AE8C58C@charter.net> References: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> <48B693B5-702A-4B11-B149-3CBA8254BE9D@1800dialword.com> <564F252B-0091-472F-A2BD-D7136AE8C58C@charter.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:46:31 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MUSIC & TECHNOLOGY (Was Re: stereo) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Nicely put Ted. I'm with you, I couldn't have said it better. I'd just add with looping, you really want to make that note count, because you are going to keep hearing it for a while. Maybe with looping, there is less instrumental technique but more listening and judgment? On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:34 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > Howdy all! > > Different tools (whether our personally chosen instruments or our preferr= ed > levels of applied musical technology) sometime suggest or influence wholl= y > different musical directions and outcomes. > > When I set aside electrical technology (as I sometime do for a time) I te= nd > to play guitar and sound like a folk musician (some rough approximation o= f > the Leo Kottke style of finger-picked guitar playing). > > This is neither bad nor good, it's just what that musical situation is fo= r > me personally. > > If civilization were to collapse and all this technology disappear, that'= s > probably what I would continue doing in order to amuse myself musically. > > But in the hyper-techno-glutted and connected world that is, we already h= ave > one Leo Kottke - of which I am only a pale and inept copy. > > So, when I apply some level of electricty to the mix of things available = to > me (say looping and/or FX) my imaginative horizons are much less hemmed i= n > by my own technical proficiencies (or lack thereof). > > I can both imagine and play many other things in many other tonal colors > that I might never have considered otherwise. > > Alas, having an instrument (or some combination of instrument and applied > technology) that simply produces gorgeous and/or interesting timbres all = by > itself (with modest technique), and loops them up into overwhelming walls > orchestral stereo sound, does tend to make one gravitate in the direction= of > greater dependence on the "sonic enhancements" of said technology than in > acquiring greater motor-physical command over an instrument and/or deeper > conceptual musical skills. > > That is a problem with any technology. > > These are just some thoughts . . . I am not even sure I will agree with w= hat > I said 5 minutes from now. > > I'm not even sure where I was going with it. > > Stereo? > > Oh, I definitely approve of it . . . I have 2 ears. > > :-) > > Ted > > On Jan 23, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > >> I certainly agree with Bill that "sound" can't replace music, but >> truths like this should be understood on a discussion board like LD >> :-) >> >> Ah true Per, but thats why people go more than once to church, to get >> reminded!! >> >> Andy only the O one > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 00:06:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 382B318345A; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:06:40 UTC Message-ID: <4559696FB7624002AB0343706B03F5BD@INGO> From: "Ingo Ito" To: "Todd Matthews" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:49:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBBB60.93D845B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:06:41 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBBB60.93D845B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kashmir has always been my favourite Led Zeppelin song and you did a = wonderful version, Todd. Thanks! Ingo Ito ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Todd Matthews=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:10 PM Subject: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir = (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta = update. Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well after = the last OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a = video of me doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double = Bass. I used an Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer = where I controlled mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery = of Led Zeppelin 20 years ago was the spark of my obsession with music. = Hope you enjoy it: http://vimeo.com/19101413 -Todd Matthews ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBBB60.93D845B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kashmir has always been my favourite = Led Zeppelin=20 song and you did a wonderful version, Todd. Thanks!
 
Ingo Ito
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Todd=20 Matthews
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 = 11:10=20 PM
Subject: OT: Double Bass = Looping of Led=20 Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep)

The softstep is working much better for me after this = latest=20 beta update. Mainstage has also been working much better for me as = well after=20 the last OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is = a video=20 of me doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double = Bass. I used=20 an Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer where I = controlled=20 mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin = 20 years=20 ago was the spark of my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it:




-Todd Matthews
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBBB60.93D845B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 00:28:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FF8918345E; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0l6ad+F2nvy+Y+RMP4ndM/JgxIe9LuCgUs91wYTgWPg=; b=ig0V72zobxaUWOld4HTmDsTIocb/eYjawFnfvON+8bvuB7kMDUyP/ihJ08y/ELcdPD XJnbDq3lpdXODOo/TFDMHrr1gVPftOTPsHvCfiidCC6GrVGgfwSZUfljC867efNX2zD0 RGHRUOsqIeXNkvVjn8IMjg1N6DIO6tzBFHtbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aBB8D6+kT7Ua5tQCCVAPuyOmppV1uC7zDpZNKIsDTo7nl5DhKXuKi9KxsPyxTMXAKE rMAAB+l3rL0M1b+9N2J6iyTY4ACQibUpA+kR5ar03UMArv19iPHiU0zyIm4ARj1mZM1D CaSyppfaKCNVDB9mpDlF0fUxEANtk0bEeZyD4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:28:02 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:28:04 +0000 (UTC) First off, this is NOT off topic, it's some of the best looping I've heard. I loved it. Heartfelt, well played, just wonderful. Thanks so much! On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Great! Thanks Todd!!! > > Always loved that tune, the lead vocal melody is so haunting! > > 2011/1/24 Todd Matthews >> >> The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta update. >> Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well after the last >> OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a video of me >> doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. I used an >> Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer where I controlled >> mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin 20 >> years ago was the spark of my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it: >> http://vimeo.com/19101413 >> >> >> -Todd Matthews > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 00:56:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BAE218345E; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <315ED1A6BB60492A9CD290152FA3EFE6@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:56:49 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01CBBB61.94BAE810" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: <8gAmnB.A.UnB.Y5MPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:56:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01CBBB61.94BAE810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not OT at all =E2=80=93 very nice use of looping. From: Todd Matthews=20 Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 10:10 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir = (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta = update. Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well after = the last OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a = video of me doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double = Bass. I used an Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer = where I controlled mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery = of Led Zeppelin 20 years ago was the spark of my obsession with music. = Hope you enjoy it:=20 http://vimeo.com/19101413 -Todd Matthews ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01CBBB61.94BAE810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not OT at all =E2=80=93 very nice use of looping.
 
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 10:10 PM
Subject: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir=20 (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep)
 
The=20 softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta update. = Mainstage=20 has also been working much better for me as well after the last OSX = update. I've=20 been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a video of me doing a = looping=20 version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. I used an Eventide = Pitchfactor=20 before I went into the computer where I controlled mainstage and Mobius = with the=20 softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin 20 years ago was the spark of my=20 obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it:=20
 
 
 
 
-Todd Matthews
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01CBBB61.94BAE810-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 02:20:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 599C718345E; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-362--299133299 Subject: Re: m-13 m-9 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:20:46 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <6BDF7590-9090-4053-B38C-9FFBFDA2B52F@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:20:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-362--299133299 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> For ambience, I would probably check out the Eventide Pitch factor = and Space pedals, but I haven't actually played with them. >>=20 >> well of course, but then again Eventide beats everyone in the sound = quality department. better A to D converters among other things. Let's = see, one pitch factor $499, one Space, TBD, not yet out, but for the = sake of argument lets say another $499, thats $1000 of signal processing = right there. still interested Gareth? :-) if you can afford that = firepower go for it as you won't be disappointed. I personally want a = time factor and a Space which I saw demoed at NAMM, and was one of three = things that really made my Shakespeare curl ( to quote XTC) The other = two were the pigtronix Philosopher King which I've raved about before, = and the new Moog lap steel which I'm hoping to check out more if I get = to the factory in March. >=20 > The math on the Eventide pedals has given me pause as well. The Line6 = pedals are certainly a great value for the money. So, it depends on what = criteria one is applying. Thinking about it more. One could probably get a reasonable stereo = splitter/mixer and possibly a volume pedal with an M9 and probably still = come out about even with one of the Eventide boxes. Mark --Apple-Mail-362--299133299 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
For ambience, I would probably check out the Eventide = Pitch factor and Space pedals, but I haven't actually played with = them.

well of course, but then again Eventide beats everyone = in the sound quality department. better A to D converters among other = things. Let's see, one pitch factor $499, one Space, TBD, not yet out, = but for the sake of argument lets say another $499, thats $1000 of = signal processing right there. still interested Gareth? :-) if you can = afford that firepower go for it as you won't be disappointed. I = personally want a time factor and a Space which I saw demoed at NAMM, = and was one of three things that really made my Shakespeare curl ( to = quote XTC) The other two were the pigtronix Philosopher King which I've = raved about before, and the new Moog lap steel which I'm hoping to check = out more if I get to the factory in = March.

The math on = the Eventide pedals has given me pause as well. The Line6 pedals are = certainly a great value for the money. So, it depends on what criteria = one is applying.

Thinking about it = more. One could probably get a reasonable stereo splitter/mixer and = possibly a volume pedal with an M9 and probably still come out about = even with one of the Eventide = boxes.

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-362--299133299-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 03:57:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20FE018345E; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 03:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Trimming Down: Mixer options? Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:56:56 -0800 Message-Id: To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 03:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Okay. So maybe my rack doesn't go away. But it could get smaller and = maybe the mixer (Mackie 1642 or 1202 depending on the circumstance) goes = away. Any suggestions on what I could use that would let me: * Mix a small number of stereo line level inputs * Have one aux send (preferably stereo, but I can live with mono) * Have an insert across main or provide me with a way to control the = volume being fed to my active monitors Basically, I want to send some but not all of my signals through the = AM8000R. I can do this by routing them through it completely and letting = it pass the dry signal through or via an effects send. I want to take my main mix and send it through the TC M-300 that = provides my main reverb and an SPDIF conversion and then I want to have = a volume control upstream of my monitors. Right now, I'm using my Mackie 1642 to do all this, but it's serious = overkill for the task and it consumes a lot of space. One solution might be a stereo line mixer and then some sort of volume = control post M300. Any suggestions what to use? Any other suggestions? Thanks. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 05:54:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 465C918345D; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3D13F4.3050309@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:53:56 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Matthews CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0VJ_9C.A.GP._PRPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:54:07 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta > update. Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well > after the last OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. > Here is a video of me doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's > Kashmir on Double Bass. I used an Eventide Pitchfactor before I went > into the computer where I controlled mainstage and Mobius with the > softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin 20 years ago was the spark of > my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it: > > http://vimeo.com/19101413 > > > > -Todd Matthews Ha ha ha.............i'm so drum centric I thought to myself, "but , hey wait, Bonham never used double bass , he only had one kick drum." Seriously, this made my night, Todd, nice work, mate! The older I get, the more I love Led Zepellin (with the exception of 'Dyer Maker' which I truly and deeply hate). Now, I just want to bust out my seldom used 28" maple kick with my 6 1/2" Ludwig SupraPhonic snare drum and my 15" Zildjian hi hats and 20" Zildjian Crash cymbal and jump on this motherf*cker! Rick Walker ps what's your looper of choice? I'm assuming a laptop settup but can't see. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 11:07:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CE9C18345E; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BCyZkUdCOSDF8V0LwCoyXI/kFJMHPVjl7ijTl0eq3XA=; b=viZ4Y0Z/W5AWTKP89O9QlRoIBAC1mWolm4wro5p9qONLsArrgAqwOEAO28QURb6SR/ 8yHD1gDUF62wG/glUrulR7sbFsQYzLzsNTyTkdJVHxe8Lhr7PxUInhAxtUIQXfNghLIS KB9DfVVHR6OfsZozlXvIb4AkDeSQ+WeWqzSrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GZtizAVlk7HjGItrktlPaZwyXRhQc6qBXutERIM5IgsyFCtWPDtwRRpcgRIdQEDHQk 37FdOHDuaPszuNBdfLR8TV5WQyqPmd97nG7IIIAuJ21GH7FOBbn+UKBVfTGs3QwO2QcV 3DPRY7y4mDIPwwNq7z1ljbpYGd/ynhIAsvwyM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:07:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:07:36 +0000 (UTC) awesome Todd!!! here is another devoted Led Zeppelin fan,this is the band that has ever since i first hear them opened my musical journey i sill love them. I was asking recently if mainstage users here suffered from latency and CPU load,you seem to be doing ok. I wanted to try this same config,ive never used mobius as a plugin,would it be ok to contact you off list for you to help me configure it this way? or onlist uf loopers dont mind here;-) thanx Luis On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta update. > Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well after the last > OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a video of me > doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. I used an > Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer where I controlled > mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin 20 > years ago was the spark of my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it: > http://vimeo.com/19101413 > > > -Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 11:32:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0188218345D; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=djYRG/iQE7/Lx8eXEDDRRZBZrarp/x7XRMRWsTS1T5U=; b=UhEhbZyV5JSitQoM9JFh4OwHVwZKeA9lH50MMHRnq/FX2VsWDP6K2EqoZgVVPBSbzk Ze09nNmZ5GdR4zxoli5I7NHE3y3nOrjFUMO8GwMTTEPhpChgi8zMDWsZ3+GoZ9E3c6t7 kV11WcGH2pfKiYQqczXEJCSdnsAPtNDURLxnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Eu8pSbIomSEQpYhQc4AqEzTIuiwD+aAXlEjGzXPf6HqsxKjjh8UHZhagcOhRBuLRxY I8mRmby5L9aqabKXs5oXEwkWV/KoMPq35GTns5CO4mnRZd9qiBhWtCLNfEL+GxWWF/Ke kw8r5OijTV0/yfFE6VCozUR+BHikrzRK0AWAc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:32:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:32:18 +0000 (UTC) the Tapco Blend 6,the smallest you gonna get with 2 aux and returns,EQ,ctr room out,tape ins and out,headphones,master vol control,fits in a bag or even a pedalboard,looks cool,very clean sounding i love it! http://www.tapcoworld.com/products/blend6/specs.html Luis On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Okay. So maybe my rack doesn't go away. But it could get smaller and maybe the mixer (Mackie 1642 or 1202 depending on the circumstance) goes away. > > Any suggestions on what I could use that would let me: > > * Mix a small number of stereo line level inputs > * Have one aux send (preferably stereo, but I can live with mono) > * Have an insert across main or provide me with a way to control the volume being fed to my active monitors > > Basically, I want to send some but not all of my signals through the AM8000R. I can do this by routing them through it completely and letting it pass the dry signal through or via an effects send. > > I want to take my main mix and send it through the TC M-300 that provides my main reverb and an SPDIF conversion and then I want to have a volume control upstream of my monitors. > > Right now, I'm using my Mackie 1642 to do all this, but it's serious overkill for the task and it consumes a lot of space. > > One solution might be a stereo line mixer and then some sort of volume control post M300. Any suggestions what to use? Any other suggestions? > > Thanks. > Mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 11:36:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A9CC18345F; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b6PFdAZzcQXqSzy8EL+u2oHJo9Mcjph/TlpfW+IJ/rM=; b=EyRQd14FCRpq5BcouCcaS7bu/QxgOmHlMHPXVdRfXZbHprl6ILqimseS10TTjiwm6k VcP6T6Tyc75Pm1jJJW0+V9Y2p8GD+bLgmcLltC3gBL+kNKp3GJvJvEtDA669mpJ0JBLp qwL+SQvFBioNIUQp971AxAmmNWLE8ioiLYsbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rmir4pbmntmnEtHOI9L2RyhzH+mIO9s8gpcnJKqiOmxrCZZojyDUH0HqwWfuHBzwft kj+mDFKoDH1I3rahS5jRjqtggaMd4nRL89Mi2HTiqhW+3BAxb7Nc51mKuA7Jnrk6KYAO Dnq4s+15D+9vfuKWx7ECO65mo4uTFPFaSQZaM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:36:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: m-13 m-9 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:36:37 +0000 (UTC) plus you could get a small midi controller like the tech 21 midi mouse to toogle more things like going from fx mode to loop mode quickly if u wanna get fancy all in all that baby is awesome! Luis On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 6:59 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > mark said: "The other effects are reasonably good but not that > psychedelic/ambient. " > > What exactly is your criteria for psychedelic ambient Mark? =A0I have no > problem achieving lush ambient textures or psychedelic =A0sounds out of m= y > M-9. have you actually spent much time programming an M-9 or M-13? > For ambience, I would probably check out the Eventide Pitch factor and Sp= ace > pedals, but I haven't actually played with them. > well of course, but then again Eventide beats everyone in the sound quali= ty > department. better A to D converters among other things. Let's see, one > pitch factor $499, one Space, TBD, not yet out, but for the sake of argum= ent > lets say another $499, thats $1000 of signal processing right there. stil= l > interested Gareth? :-) if you can afford that firepower go for it as you > won't be disappointed. I personally want a time factor and a Space which = I > saw demoed at NAMM, and was one of three things that really made my > Shakespeare curl ( to quote XTC) The other two were the pigtronix > Philosopher King which I've raved about before, and the new Moog lap stee= l > which I'm hoping to check out more if I get to the factory in March. > Sjaak said: > =A0=A0The=A0analog delays can sound very harsh and anything but warm, I d= on't like > them personally, the DD-20 analog delay emulation is far better than > the M9 or M13. > =A0Hey Sjaak are you referring to the way these delays respond to regener= ation > feedback? If so I see your point, when using run away regeneration I've > noticed a certain > harshness when going in to self oscillation but other wise They sound fin= e. > I've used the DD-20 and it didn't seem to my ears to be any better. Could > you elaborate please? > Though not perfect i've enjoyed using the M-9 allot. I had an M-13 I sold= to > Scoots, I got rid of it purely for size reasons, needed something smaller= to > put on my pedal board. This is a really nice processor Gareth that can do > ambience textures really well and is more loaded feature -wise than anyth= ing > in its price range. The only effect I know of in its class with two > expression pedal ports for effects depth morphing. This feature alone giv= es > the M-9 so much control its ridiculous. > =A0Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 11:39:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69756183475; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=npynPOKxJsb8L247xDNBAmhzreggfQ5h0hIPq8/PerRVDv4GyJkKbpgGkfmnKC8/; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:33:33 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-916253301==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec794be339fc3458a0e4fb7b658b1afd168a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:39:56 +0000 (UTC) --============_-916253301==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Todd, That's fantastic...!! -Chuck >The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta >update. Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well >after the last OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. >Here is a video of me doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's >Kashmir on Double Bass. I used an Eventide Pitchfactor before I went >into the computer where I controlled mainstage and Mobius with the >softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin 20 years ago was the spark of >my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it: > >http://vimeo.com/19101413 > > > >-Todd Matthews -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-916253301==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mai
Todd,
 
That's fantastic...!!

-Chuck

The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta update. Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well after the last OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a video of me doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. I used an Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer where I controlled mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin 20 years ago was the spark of my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it:

http://vimeo.com/19101413



-Todd Matthews


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-916253301==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 12:06:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEAFA18345D; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:06:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 561797412/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.177.235/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.177.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar4BAH75PE1V0rHr/2dsb2JhbAAMljzKJYVQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="561797412" Message-ID: <4D3D6B58.5040707@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:06:48 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stereo References: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <271A555E-C411-442F-82F9-0EF1C126CE8A@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:06:51 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > will probably be simplified to a pair of simple loopers (we'll be using > 2 LP-2's for syncing to each other). So how *does* the LP2 sync work? andy butler just thinking about tech stuff before going back to lute practice ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 12:08:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA4E7183460; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=mTuCBNREEctrbSf0oBoej3JN4ho7K+b2DiK5VPPOg6k=; b=PJIwXL6RftD7pp+xEuwIZoe+KPApsB2EGsrtzerYAPOJ5nP8zk75VGD7pA1hwU2BBZ Bhmb2VLIlFO/WQ69mHus7PhzECYCZ4neHyAueRS1o3JTtgxlJR8wjzCvkx8IbptBwQwG 1vYlcv6ti3OaLAehQah173w86aXx7o8iEaiHs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=uF1+PHSb0Jrf7qL0zJXzhamFnJlIcsNXOIThyGBaTfyvyuFhqtBzT2j1dzXZNtUyLP 8L1lToHfoKAbzw5tWtZc1M0Eqv7ZezlchNTRNDY0X4w5Tbacl1C51QsLiuUFxqVDBv13 3EAlleM5XyktC4ki/7DhJhUbiWB/33FlDlAbk= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:08:05 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Luis! Sure, I'm happy to answer any questions. We can discuss on = list. Although anything I have done I have learned from reading all of = Per's invaluable posts:) It helped to limit myself to only logic lugs in = Mainstage, keep things simple. Any of my patches only consist of an EQ = and one other logic plug. One patch for just reverb, one for delay, one = for just a compressor for when I'm plucking versus bowing. Also the = latest updates to OSX 10.6.5, which had mainstage improvements, and the = latest mobius version is great.=20 -Todd Matthews > awesome Todd!!! > here is another devoted Led Zeppelin fan,this is the band that has > ever since i first hear them opened my musical journey > i sill love them. > I was asking recently if mainstage users here suffered from latency > and CPU load,you seem to be doing ok. > I wanted to try this same config,ive never used mobius as a > plugin,would it be ok to contact you off list for you to help me > configure it this way? > or onlist uf loopers dont mind here;-) > thanx > Luis >=20 > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Todd Matthews = wrote: >> The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta = update. >> Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well after the = last >> OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a video = of me >> doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. I = used an >> Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer where I = controlled >> mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin = 20 >> years ago was the spark of my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy = it: >> http://vimeo.com/19101413 >>=20 >>=20 >> -Todd Matthews >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 12:10:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77AC1183477; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=Bkv3sZdnkyvnQVW/hHDfXhWCjUMUizSqJGnpITZ4DGQ=; b=Vc7xehcePtgUrpGEvTG+FOq58gfhrqc3neMDryjnjUgFpUeW6pVZs4iIIrdPb6A1TB tFWHbXbXtap0DS2ibzk2xWLmK6TBF7tAPdR1WOOzOiIwdA2MhXuxQvvTQtA8xoNUk5+Q NtAt1rihYQFrYjQ09kAlQGeR8MzMxuq8BWtpM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=rL8Ho2u5qHpfqvraS0z2zOo1R3RGSGITsmQvZQj1Taf+UebunuMXOQ9JP966FTaq3j ikIv9BvyKthx5Y4zy/D0WtRmu2MR7PWtjvk0JPa8ikwRWKTs4LN3fDsPA7Njt+tZZvd3 an/ryHhUBgwO4Thduvt7kvC70fkVNPVCqMIs8= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:10:19 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <9wnurB.A.Tn.vwWPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Art! I guess it was on topic since I was looping in stereo versus = mono:) -Todd Matthews On Jan 23, 2011, at 7:28 PM, Art Simon wrote: > First off, this is NOT off topic, it's some of the best looping I've = heard. >=20 > I loved it. Heartfelt, well played, just wonderful. Thanks so much! >=20 > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Petri Lahtinen = wrote: >> Great! Thanks Todd!!! >>=20 >> Always loved that tune, the lead vocal melody is so haunting! >>=20 >> 2011/1/24 Todd Matthews >>>=20 >>> The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta = update. >>> Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well after the = last >>> OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a video = of me >>> doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. I = used an >>> Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer where I = controlled >>> mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin = 20 >>> years ago was the spark of my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy = it: >>> http://vimeo.com/19101413 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -Todd Matthews >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >> http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert = Fripp- >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must = lead." >> -Charles Bukowski- >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 12:13:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDC19183480; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hfrOnBot80O+4mmRKJC7xajoqf/pdwF1OI40lc4frwI=; b=VJ+uwFYFoaQ+e9KD7q+8rbnPFXch/Q9wrK3iztCau0sOf/+KLa4WKLUrH9fAx3w9h8 RZLI/9rD4B2KO9BuTg02tFUuplZhvglG3mJP3xECaLSUjk14bJlk2ejHKwbAHLJfdX+K DPF6od4VgzeGvxz55VB3aR0LaMBT56lCUBJlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Snql2p8idnV+9nJSos3wrVZoji1i9g2PkjuZI1MVJvY5qqvXJc8Z8v4FAQj9tixUx7 HpO8/j95VvSh5/pXo4CrdOmWG94dko6jNYWeYh/Kfn5jQZxI6ovGt7//3EkJeMZc8IrB F0d5afg83lYL4KU8qhE4IS6Na3/IsFm6cne48= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:13:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e640962a6b88db049a9687d7 Resent-Message-ID: <6DHW3C.A.uu.vzWPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:13:35 +0000 (UTC) --0016e640962a6b88db049a9687d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very nice Todd ! Any other info about the usability of the softstep ? >From your video, it seems that pushing those "tiny" buttons needs practice. Can you report your experience ? -f 2011/1/24 Todd Matthews > Thanks Luis! Sure, I'm happy to answer any questions. We can discuss on > list. Although anything I have done I have learned from reading all of Per's > invaluable posts:) It helped to limit myself to only logic lugs in > Mainstage, keep things simple. Any of my patches only consist of an EQ and > one other logic plug. One patch for just reverb, one for delay, one for just > a compressor for when I'm plucking versus bowing. Also the latest updates to > OSX 10.6.5, which had mainstage improvements, and the latest mobius version > is great. > > -Todd Matthews > > awesome Todd!!! > > here is another devoted Led Zeppelin fan,this is the band that has > > ever since i first hear them opened my musical journey > > i sill love them. > > I was asking recently if mainstage users here suffered from latency > > and CPU load,you seem to be doing ok. > > I wanted to try this same config,ive never used mobius as a > > plugin,would it be ok to contact you off list for you to help me > > configure it this way? > > or onlist uf loopers dont mind here;-) > > thanx > > Luis > > > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Todd Matthews > wrote: > >> The softstep is working much better for me after this latest beta > update. > >> Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well after the > last > >> OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend. Here is a video of > me > >> doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. I used > an > >> Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer where I controlled > >> mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of Led Zeppelin 20 > >> years ago was the spark of my obsession with music. Hope you enjoy it: > >> http://vimeo.com/19101413 > >> > >> > >> -Todd Matthews > > > > > > > > > --0016e640962a6b88db049a9687d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very nice Todd !
Any other info about the usability of the softstep ?
From your video, it seems that pushing=A0those "tiny" button= s needs practice.
Can you report your experience ?
=A0
-f

2011/1/24 Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
Thanks Luis! Sure, I'm happy= to answer any questions. We can discuss on list. Although anything I have = done I have learned from reading all of Per's invaluable posts:) It hel= ped to limit myself to only logic lugs in Mainstage, keep things simple. An= y of my patches only consist of an EQ and one other logic plug. One patch f= or just reverb, one for delay, one for just a compressor for when I'm p= lucking versus bowing. Also the latest updates to OSX 10.6.5, which had mai= nstage improvements, and the latest mobius version is great.

-Todd Matthews
> awesome Todd!!!
> here is another devoted Led = Zeppelin fan,this is the band that has
> ever since i first hear them= opened my musical journey
> i sill love them.
> I was asking r= ecently if mainstage users here suffered from latency
> and CPU load,you seem to be doing ok.
> I wanted to try this sam= e config,ive never used mobius as a
> plugin,would it be ok to contac= t you off list for you to help me
> configure it this way?
> or= onlist uf loopers dont mind here;-)
> thanx
> Luis
>
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:10 PM, T= odd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.c= om> wrote:
>> The softstep is working much better for me af= ter this latest beta update.
>> Mainstage has also been working much better for me as well after t= he last
>> OSX update. I've been in looping heaven all weekend= . Here is a video of me
>> doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin= 's Kashmir on Double Bass. I used an
>> Eventide Pitchfactor before I went into the computer where I contr= olled
>> mainstage and Mobius with the softstep. My discovery of L= ed Zeppelin 20
>> years ago was the spark of my obsession with mus= ic. Hope you enjoy it:
>> http://vim= eo.com/19101413
>>
>>
>> -Todd Matthews
&= gt;







--0016e640962a6b88db049a9687d7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 12:33:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75DF818345F; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7NCKMQi/q+ildkZQW9TolDKv6HnAx4YqLApIQhGDAW4=; b=pv2Se7MtSLaw7WRBlP8bCRAsYlWz0Tq2oS5+WYcDZ4/WnAoaZoFDvzjZW90DJtWjjT 3+W0GD1CgdyHj1E1FQ2w3lXXxiuW1Yg9Fky2fD75TMQaGtb6+Sp13khJbMZYLaeABIwH /Tvazk57raeU1FFGt7LCIs4C+nRX7N84iwYZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qBJcIR1Qdmk3Q9G+tvlyH7D59OqrWefAgarYzjyBiPfKMMdzElA+m03RoSZ5hrm8un vIqQ///yJ59PWqtnhYNw2jq4Kr1pPlRWNsHmWKmUqOjxH2o7HN4fmHXJ/WXKesDzZlDj WqWkXG9+Z2+uq6tIsLABO2VUXYwMpbkC4LBIw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:33:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <0FbvPC.A.xLB.QGXPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:33:20 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: >>> 2011/1/24 Todd Matthews >>>> doing a looping version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir on Double Bass. >>>> http://vimeo.com/19101413 Great sound, Todd! Glad you've got the stuff going so smoothly now. The Double Bass is such a lovely instrument for looping; lots of alternative source sounds at your fingertips. Zeppelin rocks. Now loop Black Dog!!! LOL ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 13:16:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42531183459; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: LoopGrass References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7B840268-E9DB-40D8-8402-E6F86781FF40@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:14:47 -0500 Thread-Topic: LoopGrass Thread-Index: Acu7yMQ5sifj0MdIRE2qyY3sy7Swaw== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2011 13:16:23.0189 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5B50450:01CBBBC8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Howdy folks A few years ago I met somebody on here who was looping Bluegrass and Oldtime= and he had a computer based loop program. He was in northern Californee, an= ybody remember who that is? Andy of the O's= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 14:08:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8294F18345E; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <64AC4725-1E45-4260-A8EC-57AB2BEA9106@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:07:59 -0500 Thread-Topic: Trimming Down: Mixer options? Thread-Index: Acu70CcspaxrX9DCS/eJVaf7Raf1Ug== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2011 14:08:42.0487 (UTC) FILETIME=[34DFE070:01CBBBD0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Mark Check out the Rane CM86, discontinued but you can find them and a killer loo= ping mixer.=20 Why? Because each ch (8) has a switch for A B or A/B and level send to eithe= r a or b out, so you can flip a little switch and have that chanell either i= n the cue, in the looper and the cue, or just in the looper. I run a to cue,= b to looper and then bring the looper back in in ch 8. This works great, tw= o aux sends, pre and post switchable, eq switchable in or out and mic or lin= e on each channel.=20 You can look at the manual at rane.com under discontinued gear.=20 Three rack spaces.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Okay. So maybe my rack doesn't go away. But it could get smaller and maybe= the mixer (Mackie 1642 or 1202 depending on the circumstance) goes away. >=20 > Any suggestions on what I could use that would let me: >=20 > * Mix a small number of stereo line level inputs > * Have one aux send (preferably stereo, but I can live with mono) > * Have an insert across main or provide me with a way to control the volum= e being fed to my active monitors >=20 > Basically, I want to send some but not all of my signals through the AM800= 0R. I can do this by routing them through it completely and letting it pass t= he dry signal through or via an effects send. >=20 > I want to take my main mix and send it through the TC M-300 that provides m= y main reverb and an SPDIF conversion and then I want to have a volume contr= ol upstream of my monitors. >=20 > Right now, I'm using my Mackie 1642 to do all this, but it's serious overk= ill for the task and it consumes a lot of space. >=20 > One solution might be a stereo line mixer and then some sort of volume con= trol post M300. Any suggestions what to use? Any other suggestions? >=20 > Thanks. > Mark >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 14:09:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C11718345C; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 570569428/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.177.235/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.177.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvwBAEIXPU1V0rHr/2dsb2JhbAAMlj3KS4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,370,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="570569428" Message-ID: <4D3D881F.6050107@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:09:35 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > Okay. So maybe my rack doesn't go away. But it could get smaller and maybe the mixer (Mackie 1642 or 1202 depending on the circumstance) goes away. > > Any suggestions on what I could use that would let me: > > * Mix a small number of stereo line level inputs > * Have one aux send (preferably stereo, but I can live with mono) > * Have an insert across main or provide me with a way to control the volume being fed to my active monitors > For your rack... The Alesis Multimix 8 Line has 8 stereo line ins, and a stereo fx send (and return). Just had a look at the schematic and it would be possible mod it to have an insert on the main bus without adding any extra components. Quality is ok for live work. Seems well built. Since having it my rig I have more of a problem with mains hum(compared to Behringer Ultralink)...but possible to sort that. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 14:14:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 445AF18345F; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1E7836F7-9023-4EEF-B326-2B3A30B52126@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:10:56 -0500 Thread-Topic: Trimming Down: Mixer options? Thread-Index: Acu70PjDDUBajw9eRuicINk7bCnMIg== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2011 14:14:44.0679 (UTC) FILETIME=[0CC1FD70:01CBBBD1] Resent-Message-ID: <4LnhI.A.tmD.VlYPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:14:46 +0000 (UTC) I have one of those two, but mine is very noisy, too noisy for looping. Ymmv= Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 24, 2011, at 6:32 AM, Louie Angulo wrot= e: > the Tapco Blend 6,the smallest you gonna get with 2 aux and > returns,EQ,ctr room out,tape ins and out,headphones,master vol > control,fits in a bag or even a pedalboard,looks cool,very clean > sounding i love it! >=20 > http://www.tapcoworld.com/products/blend6/specs.html >=20 > Luis >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> Okay. So maybe my rack doesn't go away. But it could get smaller and mayb= e the mixer (Mackie 1642 or 1202 depending on the circumstance) goes away. >>=20 >> Any suggestions on what I could use that would let me: >>=20 >> * Mix a small number of stereo line level inputs >> * Have one aux send (preferably stereo, but I can live with mono) >> * Have an insert across main or provide me with a way to control the volu= me being fed to my active monitors >>=20 >> Basically, I want to send some but not all of my signals through the AM80= 00R. I can do this by routing them through it completely and letting it pass= the dry signal through or via an effects send. >>=20 >> I want to take my main mix and send it through the TC M-300 that provides= my main reverb and an SPDIF conversion and then I want to have a volume con= trol upstream of my monitors. >>=20 >> Right now, I'm using my Mackie 1642 to do all this, but it's serious over= kill for the task and it consumes a lot of space. >>=20 >> One solution might be a stereo line mixer and then some sort of volume co= ntrol post M300. Any suggestions what to use? Any other suggestions? >>=20 >> Thanks. >> Mark >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 14:18:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D6BA18345F; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? References: <4D3D881F.6050107@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D3D881F.6050107@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <992A59EA-4454-41C2-B7F3-E07645570E4B@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:16:57 -0500 Thread-Topic: Trimming Down: Mixer options? Thread-Index: Acu70XAt3vntB/h6Sq+GYQYCsj355w== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2011 14:18:27.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[91A4D990:01CBBBD1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Also the rane sm82 I used for a while and used the pan to set level between c= ue and looper. Other cool thing about that old rane stuff is there is a flex= bus system so you use a midi cable and can connect multiple units.=20 And Bill Walker has an sm82 for sale. But check out that cm86. Its like tha= t behringer three rack space unit but that switchable bus out is killer on t= he rane, noone else has that.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:09 AM, andy butler wrote: > Alesis Multimix 8 Line From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 14:19:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E358183474; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? References: <4D3D881F.6050107@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D3D881F.6050107@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:18:23 -0500 Thread-Topic: Trimming Down: Mixer options? Thread-Index: Acu70a5eukDNnvWcQO+mK7aOb+183g== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2011 14:19:32.0024 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8075B80:01CBBBD1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Oh another cool thing on cm86 each ch has insert, each stereo bus has insert= and another ch for tape in out.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:09 AM, andy butler wrote: > Mark Hamburg wrote: >> Okay. So maybe my rack doesn't go away. But it could get smaller and mayb= e the mixer (Mackie 1642 or 1202 depending on the circumstance) goes away. >> Any suggestions on what I could use that would let me: >> * Mix a small number of stereo line level inputs >> * Have one aux send (preferably stereo, but I can live with mono) >> * Have an insert across main or provide me with a way to control the volu= me being fed to my active monitors >=20 > For your rack... > The Alesis Multimix 8 Line has 8 stereo line ins, > and a stereo fx send (and return). >=20 > Just had a look at the schematic and it would > be possible mod it to have an insert on the main bus > without adding any extra components. >=20 > Quality is ok for live work. > Seems well built. > Since having it my rig I have more of a problem > with mains hum(compared to Behringer Ultralink)...but possible to sort tha= t. >=20 >=20 > andy butler >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 14:49:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C06B2183480; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3D917D.9000403@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:49:33 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louie Angulo CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Hey Luis, Does the Tapco have Inserts as well on the back of it? I love that this thing has 2 AUX sends and is so compact. Also, how is it's fidelity compared to, say, the quite VLZ preamps of the Mackie boards? I'm hoping this might be my new board. Thanks in advance for the R&D, my friend. rick walker On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > the Tapco Blend 6,the smallest you gonna get with 2 aux and > returns,EQ,ctr room out,tape ins and out,headphones,master vol > control,fits in a bag or even a pedalboard,looks cool,very clean > sounding i love it! > > http://www.tapcoworld.com/products/blend6/specs.html > > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 15:00:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 676EF18348A; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <64AC4725-1E45-4260-A8EC-57AB2BEA9106@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:00:51 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7258C967-018A-491C-BC85-3676212EFBC2@grubmah.com> References: <64AC4725-1E45-4260-A8EC-57AB2BEA9106@1800dialword.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Thanks. At 3 rack spaces, it reminds me of the old Roland line mixer I = used to have (M-160) and I'm not sure it's enough of a win over the = Mackie 1202, but thanks and I'll at least ponder it. Thanks also to Luis for the Tapco link. Andy Owens' concerns about noise = get me thinking more carefully, but it does point out that I could deal = with my insert to main ahead of the level for the monitors by taking = main out to the M300 and then back in an input that feeds only to the = control room. I hadn't thought about that because in the past I've ended = up using the control room feeds to get stereo feeds for loopers. Time to go study the SM82 and the MultiMix 8. (I do like the way Andy = Butler looks at these things and casually says that it shouldn't be that = hard to add an insert...) Mark On Jan 24, 2011, at 6:07 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Mark >=20 > Check out the Rane CM86, discontinued but you can find them and a = killer looping mixer.=20 >=20 > Why? Because each ch (8) has a switch for A B or A/B and level send to = either a or b out, so you can flip a little switch and have that chanell = either in the cue, in the looper and the cue, or just in the looper. I = run a to cue, b to looper and then bring the looper back in in ch 8. = This works great, two aux sends, pre and post switchable, eq switchable = in or out and mic or line on each channel.=20 >=20 > You can look at the manual at rane.com under discontinued gear.=20 > Three rack spaces.=20 >=20 > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! >=20 >=20 > On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >=20 >> Okay. So maybe my rack doesn't go away. But it could get smaller and = maybe the mixer (Mackie 1642 or 1202 depending on the circumstance) goes = away. >>=20 >> Any suggestions on what I could use that would let me: >>=20 >> * Mix a small number of stereo line level inputs >> * Have one aux send (preferably stereo, but I can live with mono) >> * Have an insert across main or provide me with a way to control the = volume being fed to my active monitors >>=20 >> Basically, I want to send some but not all of my signals through the = AM8000R. I can do this by routing them through it completely and letting = it pass the dry signal through or via an effects send. >>=20 >> I want to take my main mix and send it through the TC M-300 that = provides my main reverb and an SPDIF conversion and then I want to have = a volume control upstream of my monitors. >>=20 >> Right now, I'm using my Mackie 1642 to do all this, but it's serious = overkill for the task and it consumes a lot of space. >>=20 >> One solution might be a stereo line mixer and then some sort of = volume control post M300. Any suggestions what to use? Any other = suggestions? >>=20 >> Thanks. >> Mark >>=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 15:28:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A25E0183483; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 570517433/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.177.235/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.177.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvwBAJUpPU1V0rHr/2dsb2JhbAAMlj/Kd4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,370,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="570517433" Message-ID: <4D3D9A89.3010004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:28:09 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? References: <64AC4725-1E45-4260-A8EC-57AB2BEA9106@1800dialword.com> <7258C967-018A-491C-BC85-3676212EFBC2@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <7258C967-018A-491C-BC85-3676212EFBC2@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5lGAuD.A.lkF.LqZPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > Time to go study the SM82 and the MultiMix 8. (I do like the way Andy Butler > looks at these things and casually says that it shouldn't be that hard to add an insert...) cheers Mark ;-) Any electronic repair shop would be able to make the mod for you. Beware the 'Multimix 8 *Line*' is very different from the confusingly named 'Multimix 8' From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 16:26:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DA6C18345B; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <20110123175118.5BAB6183474@arsenic.violacea.com> <7767E35C-C9EA-486B-B6D9-D95CB6679232@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: stereo Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:25:51 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <7767E35C-C9EA-486B-B6D9-D95CB6679232@baymoon.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33124-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD89FA8009AFCA-1F20-41657@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:26:09 +0000 (UTC) mono is for sissies! =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 16:43:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 704FB18345D; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7da78JD2rDIyYXBNbncA/bG2GpSryj599Sw6bYiUNCE=; b=c5nknkaxKtadmRmV0y1FXlx3CppSlLTnJ+yuu+78HU0N1Oqixo+4FKs7M5jWmE2bnV gpsdLlH5QkNiKRYTJ0dlih16JfSHVakNmtBTV6Jnvh8/miP0pJlQi4KByhkC2xjpt54h ewvha1x9lPn+qWreBXTC/zEDA4qweGTGF9KnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PyxA+8utoe8adZBy5eiqv7zjBEIYCX6kAGHOuS1ap6YgsIihGpJbuUDfZTQIQRcPMs qDnP+cyrQihdb6La9ysrBk1LI1ff+PSPPzEYetJtFJ8+/pDbd7eCTNBDMFscNozSnOy3 W/rquHJwnIaIbaqaPftsAxULsbRgJo726cKH4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:43:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Unfortunately the Tapco is no longer in production. On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > the Tapco Blend 6,the smallest you gonna get with 2 aux and > returns,EQ,ctr room out,tape ins and out,headphones,master vol > control,fits in a bag or even a pedalboard,looks cool,very clean > sounding i love it! > > http://www.tapcoworld.com/products/blend6/specs.html > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 17:10:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F217518345D; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Trimming Down: Mixer options? Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:10:04 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A528C5@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Trimming Down: Mixer options? Thread-Index: Acu75co7qhC0AxeVQf+iPDeKpAmcFgAAU69Q References: From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2011 17:10:45.0162 (UTC) FILETIME=[A34BD0A0:01CBBBE9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Another buyer beware on the tapco is that the power supply is external = and very specific, if you lose it or it blows you are screwed. -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:43 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? Unfortunately the Tapco is no longer in production. On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > the Tapco Blend 6,the smallest you gonna get with 2 aux and > returns,EQ,ctr room out,tape ins and out,headphones,master vol > control,fits in a bag or even a pedalboard,looks cool,very clean > sounding i love it! > > http://www.tapcoworld.com/products/blend6/specs.html > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all = trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 17:43:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE59618345D; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20110123175118.5BAB6183474@arsenic.violacea.com> <7767E35C-C9EA-486B-B6D9-D95CB6679232@baymoon.com> <8CD89FA8009AFCA-1F20-41657@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CD89FA8009AFCA-1F20-41657@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: stereo Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:43:39 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:43:53 +0000 (UTC) ?Not if you're channelling the long-dead-perhaps-never-living spirit of Blind Melon Cheeseburger. But in the case of loopage, you're right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e-OQzMVBwc -----Original Message----- From: nemoguitt@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 4:25 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stereo mono is for sissies! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 20:11:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7ACB18345D; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IUAvSQbbquIWX/QRUCyVNW7YI3GFddgxBZ9OhBuNx68=; b=fzWWxn0Ml+7I9OXrjq4trLZs/8PdBGqPNpPsSKpYQTN5kVOB5aWQVCc+NnCwR2surq 5AGwXEfjALRmmKTtXXDRHJmuTU6/8RdpZd0fyAOKhD5zMX87DqtRLaEp1iUC+N1uDdNm jSA4mUhI15wEjeyLjrqrQKKugOFO0qQlIFbu8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ujCkbOsa4X9LKocpCUsJpBaFEgaGtZkiqbYrLsuMxeSdp5LT7dxiKEK/eaTDJm6Vsa 3STbM6HT8axRxJWJcd/Qg5ZkAwVv2ibgPcpeZCwiLY/f0/NzNfNuMo/zXxbWGBzegHWC OltiOdw/uMCTZjLu2HRtxSk3TLWWHNfcNDH3I= Message-ID: <4D3DDCD2.5060907@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:10:58 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo schrieb: > awesome Todd!!! > here is another devoted Led Zeppelin fan,this is the band that has > ever since i first hear them opened my musical journey > i sill love them. > So why didn't you tell us about the Led Zeppelin cover tracks you did yourself in this context? It's here: http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom "Dazed and Confused" (in a version which sounds like it was done by Mano Negra), and another nice cover, "Helter Skelter" (with some RHCP influences?) Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 20:21:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FD4A18345D; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nOr6WCDTBA6bC1eWb9szlkzbl+UgQVmKuHRUz7j0U1w=; b=WdzS/vltZz24U0FabYjtmLW1FONN3Pq6HUmS88jZvtYo24bOyNkDvPxLtql03u1RFu 9yZwKjKy8Je4XqJnLcdWE3d9hYoQQtnRhgaT8OSItbCaubcAq0EwsArAZlhbb9YDLBrP epHQOicDylLcu1yXmEIDluBk15EPYcJtXuDs8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=D/zT/7Uo5yV9slgvkB6IbYa0hnbzAI4Y+zGIJsKyn9vYcq0DlT4ZDH403fiZ1CKS3o xmUSAwJjpQeCBTKTmA1NqYo+Z7PUSaNpiNK66Y1Vbfhb2eKXL0gzWBhG1biHMatRhUKB UKcI60XWpV7E2KuR7UcOw+7863yHLpdnOvj6w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:21:51 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <842Ja.A.BwE.k9dPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Hello soldier fiends, Having looked into the basic Midi breakout boxes available for the VG 8, etc, I realized, I don't have $400 to buy one of these. So looking around I found this http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=3D/profs/breakout Any of you technically inclined people have any advice on how to do this (for a basic novice who has soldered a thing or two but never built a functioning device)? I'm wondering a couple of things a), how feasible is this b) about how much a home brew would cost c) anyone with the skills willing to build one (for a fee of course). I'm at the level where I'm not sure I could actually do anything with these plans but I could probably put it together if I had the parts. Feel free to tell me I'm better off without the dream of processing six strings separately. I think I might be better off that way. Unless one of you out there...... Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 20:57:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD7E318345C; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=DAlkAghP8QtX3fyOYT713mA0beFqUvXlbrujygkizcA=; b=kSRFVvXYjzxgIh+DhmcirSEhF7WkzC6gwXY/xfGz7/vqHTtTyD63GkGnKym1ZyBoR5 oY6QyFSxqM4O5/4bhuHsX55C02XyQGMrB+2H2gpAMTbkYImIDdbt2yyxFdNE37eZIHGZ RoVFcasCgnqiTr/AkFC1gfjxtZ0Xi8jYO4Y60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=p9Lbb+TReGp0ohzTTeMZ67UWplrOW7Tlf9URdctSiDew+HzRJm2/MIcfHZmORsIrUN pYXYl1QNUDvLdkdTclmJzfa3RZYvKc8GpUuIjNmC/7yr2QqivKx9GuHvn+wncarNsg/0 Dl1OPMT2AXzp+7K4A8KAF6QdbYQWtg4Zq60qc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com From: Tom Swirly Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:57:13 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mdzYzJYqjaaiVR2_mA6G6NZo6rs Message-ID: Subject: Visiting Australia and Indonesia... wanting to meet loopers! To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd89f555dfd0049a9dd913 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:57:52 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd89f555dfd0049a9dd913 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 So I'm going for a prolonged jaunt in the South Pacific for a honeymoon and I'm bringing my loopy show with me. We'll be in Sydney, Melbourne, probably Cairns, Ubud, Jakarta, and then who knows? Let me know if you're somewhere around that trajectory, we'd love to meet you! -- /t http://radio.swirly.com - art music radio 24/7 366/1000 --0016e6dd89f555dfd0049a9dd913 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I'm going for a prolonged jaunt in the South Pacific for a honeymoon= and I'm bringing my loopy show with me.

We'll b= e in Sydney, Melbourne, probably Cairns, Ubud, Jakarta, and then who knows?=

Let me know if you're somewhere around that traject= ory, we'd love to meet you!

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--0016e6dd89f555dfd0049a9dd913-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:06:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D113118345E; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e64a6c19-49a9-4340-9493-92452fb8d51c_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:06:47 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2011 21:06:47.0833 (UTC) FILETIME=[9CE7E890:01CBBC0A] Resent-Message-ID: <7h-3oC.A.9IG.pnePNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:06:49 +0000 (UTC) --_e64a6c19-49a9-4340-9493-92452fb8d51c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have a look at this Kevin: =20 http://billbax.110mb.com/ =20 G =20 > Date: Mon=2C 24 Jan 2011 12:21:51 -0800 > Subject: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box > From: billowhead@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hello soldier fiends=2C >=20 > Having looked into the basic Midi breakout boxes available for the VG > 8=2C etc=2C I realized=2C I don't have $400 to buy one of these. So looki= ng > around I found this > http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=3D/profs/breakout >=20 > Any of you technically inclined people have any advice on how to do > this (for a basic novice who has soldered a thing or two but never > built a functioning device)? I'm wondering a couple of things a)=2C how > feasible is this b) about how much a home brew would cost c) anyone > with the skills willing to build one (for a fee of course). >=20 > I'm at the level where I'm not sure I could actually do anything with > these plans but I could probably put it together if I had the parts. >=20 > Feel free to tell me I'm better off without the dream of processing > six strings separately. I think I might be better off that way. > Unless one of you out there...... >=20 > Kevin >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 = --_e64a6c19-49a9-4340-9493-92452fb8d51c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have =3Ba look at this Kevin:
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= --_e64a6c19-49a9-4340-9493-92452fb8d51c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:08:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2CD018345C; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=AevvduQDvMi/LJ8tL8pbl4DLp3jvHbO2BIJopd9Zn2Y=; b=qMIXinSZOOPE5uVZiW4Iabf3WVpweQVAuRk82P7N/fF1JJ6GD0pOzJGCTxqGV61WME +Q+t8pYOyHdujVNlh3SmotlKhReijpjn/Jn5W7SIzf0Jq1RCSgtg75JXSdV5zFbWtQMu cXNBnZHIMkjBs5C8kq5tP++SFc5I1xhL/2zC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=VBBhkStJMmWAJIEUPVpkuYV/+zhUUc/3J3bEwBewFDgzYzckLZp63JeR05SzTcctW4 vDNv21E2JXp/kWH5/oXd7W8YG5oqvb0CFmzKrwQAvnnF2qSIiYE889pr6dIPcAujbbgD gX665kTjUgthfsekNdq5JVK7ijd04PJrNPEPM= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4D3DDCD2.5060907@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:08:38 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1656C36D-0208-4F6F-BDAA-BA96F8D90D77@gmail.com> References: <4D3DDCD2.5060907@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Damn, Those are both great covers! Awesome vocals. Man I wish I could = sing. That's the ultimate instrument. Oh well, a bow is better than = nothing:) -Todd Mathews On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Louie Angulo schrieb: >> awesome Todd!!! >> here is another devoted Led Zeppelin fan,this is the band that has >> ever since i first hear them opened my musical journey >> i sill love them. >> =20 > So why didn't you tell us about the Led Zeppelin cover tracks you did = yourself in this context? > It's here: http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 > "Dazed and Confused" (in a version which sounds like it was done by = Mano Negra), and another nice cover, "Helter Skelter" (with some RHCP = influences?) >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:10:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68FF818345C; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=A/5/w2zEWIsybeYcjplzfTK66RIPGASN9PiwbtMqpuo=; b=lraeHaoRYtjJXOcYvy6rtHsRa8Hd8wpWAldU9c4wls3HSF9Byjh+orYCWVh3pqWK/A Ta9ICZ0nv0LHUtG05mT8ahNvLrN3mEEEPe+9pQI1liHl6MhCh1MiRwrhWtCrOoxUJdg0 SLb5rJyg3iI+FAvGwVbHDIAzWrgKzW3Nxi46Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=BOugf89qhhoGM7btJUSkMbCLd6n2VShMSBY8yZ7KDPVuHC/2AGEuV26vIBCwhvLqSC PeP7FC4ZEMoQTDIoVaPFEU0o2avRj2X1KAB/RGEdyqDBokyXEDSEItUVlkVOBSU6o8Ms F9Hw0k0MILDB4UTgE/I0UebQz+mz7U8UV+A/8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com From: Tom Swirly Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:10:28 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: spOLUtsA7nGZ27mZzHdFJXj86Ew Message-ID: Subject: OT: a power question To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd89f5b9c4cc049a9e08a4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:10:53 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd89f5b9c4cc049a9e08a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Now that I have you on the line :-D I have a question that, while OT, might be useful for other loopers, too, if OT. I'm travelling from 120V to 220V. Most of the units I'm bringing take both voltages - but I'm contemplating a wireless mic and none of the units I'm interested in seem to be dual voltage... and unfortunately you can't order the 220V supply in the US, nor seemingly in Australia. There are two questions. First, my last try with transformers and music was a complete failure due to hum... but that was decades ago, is this still the case? Second, both wireless units I'm looking at are actually DC powered with what looks like a typical AC/DC adaptor. My other units that have comparable such adaptors are all 110/220V in practice! What are the chances that the adaptor will actually work on 220V if I tried it? I don't mind the chance of blowing the adaptor out, but I really don't want to blow the unit itself out! Here's a spec sheet of the specific unit I'm thinking of, for both people who've read this far, :-D it's the Shure ULX-S system. http://www.shure.com/idc/groups/public/documents/webcontent/us_pro_ulx-specsheet.pdf http://www.shure.com/americas/products/wireless-systems/ulx-systems/index.htm Thanks in advance! -- /t http://radio.swirly.com - art music radio 24/7 366/1000 --0016e6dd89f5b9c4cc049a9e08a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now that I have you on the line :-D I have a question that, while OT,= =C2=A0might be useful for other loopers, too, if OT.


I'm travelling from 120V to 220V. =C2=A0Most of the u= nits I'm bringing take both voltages - but I'm contemplating a wire= less mic and none of the units I'm interested in seem to be dual voltag= e... and unfortunately you can't order the 220V supply in the US, nor s= eemingly in Australia.


There are two questions. =C2=A0


First, my last try with transformers and mu= sic was a complete failure due to hum... but that was decades ago, is this = still the case?

Second, both wireless units I'm looking at are actu= ally DC powered with what looks like a typical AC/DC adaptor. =C2=A0My othe= r units that have comparable such adaptors are all 110/220V in practice!=C2= =A0

What are the chances that the adaptor will actually wor= k on 220V if I tried it? =C2=A0I don't mind the chance of blowing the a= daptor out, but I really don't want to blow the unit itself out!
<= div>

Here's a spec sheet of the specific unit = I'm thinking of, for both people who've read this far, :-D it's= the Shure ULX-S system.


Thanks in advance!


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--0016e6dd89f5b9c4cc049a9e08a4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:17:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4DCB18345C; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=bIjcTXkfXSzKUzM3v464yiWmHkA9/mhSsXJiry2L3BY=; b=qTobD4ZPxm0wVmUHoSUcSop7DL3JFkHPN0ysI9/RRA1bqt3FYvr6pBDl6VqeCOAK1m xPa2V00un4Tlhyp+BtbJFZomWxA6OxWt3fhs0OXZYYxv9y5DqpWFftPLYE0lIU+sE8iw 7/RvWzIStobdKEBPdi3/MozSAVOn5Kxuj2Wy4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ofQ+JlPGBoZ/Fqdx33BjqG3yMDPfyDhEK5PN1ZjWvK+0J4kZf2+y9/F5qW6/nTG2nU GyApPy+t/vCbSm62t6wfs5LHGApBSsY9IosFAdHh04phoenBFZ+PMxQhn/0HgTFJcEx9 8xJ7YF6j3F11GoLHqTuGtXFH06L/Au1kPgBy8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: Tom Swirly Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:16:39 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fobVYOULxk_BFUNUWytYoj0FZb4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: a power question To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd8627d5efc4049a9e1ee9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:17:02 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd8627d5efc4049a9e1ee9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Or, other recommendations for wireless headset mics also accepted...! On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Tom Swirly wrote: > Now that I have you on the line :-D I have a question that, while OT, might > be useful for other loopers, too, if OT. > > > I'm travelling from 120V to 220V. Most of the units I'm bringing take both > voltages - but I'm contemplating a wireless mic and none of the units I'm > interested in seem to be dual voltage... and unfortunately you can't order > the 220V supply in the US, nor seemingly in Australia. > > > There are two questions. > > > First, my last try with transformers and music was a complete failure due > to hum... but that was decades ago, is this still the case? > > Second, both wireless units I'm looking at are actually DC powered with > what looks like a typical AC/DC adaptor. My other units that have > comparable such adaptors are all 110/220V in practice! > > What are the chances that the adaptor will actually work on 220V if I tried > it? I don't mind the chance of blowing the adaptor out, but I really don't > want to blow the unit itself out! > > > Here's a spec sheet of the specific unit I'm thinking of, for both people > who've read this far, :-D it's the Shure ULX-S system. > > > http://www.shure.com/idc/groups/public/documents/webcontent/us_pro_ulx-specsheet.pdf > > http://www.shure.com/americas/products/wireless-systems/ulx-systems/index.htm > > Thanks in advance! > > > -- > /t > > http://radio.swirly.com - art music radio 24/7 366/1000 > -- /t http://radio.swirly.com - art music radio 24/7 366/1000 --0016e6dd8627d5efc4049a9e1ee9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or, other recommendations for wireless headset mics also accepted...!
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Tom Swirly <tom@swirly.com>= ; wrote:
Now that I have you on the line :-D I = have a question that, while OT,=C2=A0might be useful for other loopers, too= , if OT.


I'm travelling from 120V to 220V. = =C2=A0Most of the units I'm bringing take both voltages - but I'm c= ontemplating a wireless mic and none of the units I'm interested in see= m to be dual voltage... and unfortunately you can't order the 220V supp= ly in the US, nor seemingly in Australia.


There are two questions. =C2=A0


First, my last try with transformers and mu= sic was a complete failure due to hum... but that was decades ago, is this = still the case?

Second, both wireless units I'm looking at are actu= ally DC powered with what looks like a typical AC/DC adaptor. =C2=A0My othe= r units that have comparable such adaptors are all 110/220V in practice!=C2= =A0

What are the chances that the adaptor will actually wor= k on 220V if I tried it? =C2=A0I don't mind the chance of blowing the a= daptor out, but I really don't want to blow the unit itself out!
<= div>

Here's a spec sheet of the specific unit = I'm thinking of, for both people who've read this far, :-D it's= the Shure ULX-S system.


Thank= s in advance!


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--0016e6dd8627d5efc4049a9e1ee9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:17:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE39518347B; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ptnDo/D30ALMHr4mjdv8xF/Q6JKCPkrCmI0VuEqRJlY=; b=nVdHYWfZZM1U1lsuzVEZ5R21BsKbJIQIfI4aO01Rq6fdKcUT65PzPw83rBplqgkzlg vKIZBrH0L4efGQkIeOsYOLSWGWVzDdMD8RxQPN3NREoG8f7NX9iSwmA2+SQQM30ZCx51 +dQdlaIdJxScyFDx1hgEt24uwR/S19Wmucedc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ab03NaQgEnMP/XjWauUmeGKKzsc74z3uj9azHeXMN9LtjcUE8OG185Qa1U/5WbtlwC rVE10qpVCu05clCRq8fbxGqOEo6xWD+RIzOhCUCFux6Eksz530D6ctHq1KmT4wHv5SxU 1dQj/nnSrWpq8NLHHATJnRyNMy6p+VAIMKCUU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:17:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Suitcase music studio From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a8cb200610049a9e2087 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:17:22 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a8cb200610049a9e2087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM0uSef9oCQ&feature=player_embedded Very nice indeed!! :-D -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a8cb200610049a9e2087 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpM0uSef9oCQ&feature=3Dplay= er_embedded

Very nice indeed!! :-D

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--20cf3054a8cb200610049a9e2087-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:28:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50E24183454; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wBqdMnbZSZZ8xpf2kb1M9YUIXejdigCdCgpTv2kDsSU=; b=gMt3XlY99nnPGGEsPcXUwNgPlnJpEteNO1zMXcqwcpafDuSPZsD6aw8xBIzIaHLuVn XUNWlnOc8SM5o29SBkTYmuL7KR43AM+kKftC9xpFxAFsRd9ddZkq9olfM9OmWaTt1Q4e mJsEuohgN+ZG1X3igWpBDbNQPbNl8psaQwq3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZYtubUAX7z424jhdCVu0iG1vYu+Vco4hP75YZW+crn1jJNAjYT8Gk3JM1WKLliXOjC Idlp26b4pE+3UZovZOdS/3r+uEoCXv95jatRkKKMRYl5No52XGO3Mjl6rUM7aug3dIWH BP/h/Z8GErKeejaHSgAtOH9uazrSsbnsCFf9I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A528C5@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A528C5@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:28:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:28:06 +0000 (UTC) no the blend 6 you can use any standard AC 9V power supply. Luis On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Another buyer beware on the tapco is that the power supply is external an= d very specific, if you lose it or it blows you are screwed. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:43 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? > > Unfortunately the Tapco is no longer in production. > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> the Tapco Blend 6,the smallest you gonna get with 2 aux and >> returns,EQ,ctr room out,tape ins and out,headphones,master vol >> control,fits in a bag or even a pedalboard,looks cool,very clean >> sounding i love it! >> >> http://www.tapcoworld.com/products/blend6/specs.html >> > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:31:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 875C718345C; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R6Ki6yut/oR7sBlTZk83A9kcggebvLPvSVKZzBYTKmc=; b=EiLzozfoVOb8AcMfyTA+SXNc9YhmCoFjbFU67QV/H2/GY9i7SF9wBcHq+kjg0BY/61 QxeAlqwGEdHGS8H/VzmquW4PsS5sz0xtzHc8YhtnNgFUNRew5p6OWzFmUhIHiUEMDNIP 5kITyZXTx6gJJHdsG49uWnfZJGDmPAjq0istQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mkXHXvF893Gxu5vw7Aj3IAXZ0AeP4rqRukKZ2pC3RDLzuurv3qd0dg5r0REjL85fJ5 6juQAvF1T4SQ5r2QKJ3Yhb7TwgUm39U66ewCahrPBv6i+Z2uKtlf41zcinDthvS+nxef dtdvUB7MZUm23UNT1Ek3t4uV1Lk+PMQmbxnQw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3DDCD2.5060907@googlemail.com> References: <4D3DDCD2.5060907@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:31:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:31:43 +0000 (UTC) thanx for the kind words Rainer but say, who is RHCP? On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Louie Angulo schrieb: >> >> awesome Todd!!! >> here is another devoted Led Zeppelin fan,this is the band that has >> ever since i first hear them opened my musical journey >> i sill love them. >> > > So why didn't you tell us about the Led Zeppelin cover tracks you did > yourself in this context? > It's here: http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > "Dazed and Confused" (in a version which sounds like it was done by Mano > Negra), and another nice cover, "Helter Skelter" (with some RHCP > influences?) > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:32:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87901183461; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b1VUDQmmM6/qED9hqhzyAs7Af2iChcwZ/Yia1hXuzvc=; b=Sh2Ss5w5cexxx4jW5WLAMXxc/L1vmXE/EePKUqkr5wr6EubUUmBNG/+27itRqNrk7P vzKMEUkPcc74wjtwQYrdvDvvrt+HPwupvxvNAwMIW+7fFLZWthmeQLJ0zb4r/vcc7Mpc MMrSpVTitKz91fmWIatGZkQsFmi/+XKAftUuY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R/zM78QAkHZKAXxP5qCRoYrcyhHNovtu9esRzJMQQk+6hLveUQvrudeXDxwNw6oSGC 0iWZyqaWvWODXYrFNsWz3yOkm5+3lG+llY37KfqH1IXsDE51Bu/9x1u10cjmOIdia+wz 77OSlYQLaQ2AT9ouxGXfWj4MBZBRLeW3pFtoQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1656C36D-0208-4F6F-BDAA-BA96F8D90D77@gmail.com> References: <4D3DDCD2.5060907@googlemail.com> <1656C36D-0208-4F6F-BDAA-BA96F8D90D77@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:32:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Thanx Todd! I wish i could bow like you as well man;-) On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Todd Matthews wrot= e: > Damn, Those are both great covers! Awesome vocals. Man I wish I could sin= g. That's the ultimate instrument. Oh well, a bow is better than nothing:) > > -Todd Mathews > > > On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > >> Louie Angulo schrieb: >>> awesome Todd!!! >>> here is another devoted Led Zeppelin fan,this is the band that has >>> ever since i first hear them opened my musical journey >>> i sill love them. >>> >> So why didn't you tell us about the Led Zeppelin cover tracks you did yo= urself in this context? >> It's here: http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >> >> "Dazed and Confused" (in a version which sounds like it was done by Mano= Negra), and another nice cover, "Helter Skelter" (with some RHCP influence= s?) >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer >> >> -- >> http://moinlabs.de >> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >> > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:33:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFC3D183461; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NXNiGQLi1a8sOk+dQoSHw4lk6gVC6MvY5aNSxrpEmfE=; b=IFQN4U2K9tHZReROmwofhpTW2ybX+CRNxwxrmr+XCLooKZPWBqmt07TOa1EWHRmJQf QN9FWhhsm505O+sw6dhFPB/Ya5ljvcsHyDZVW6y1VR5JUuL4ayIJoe8LUVEHuq1/vMi3 BmUbbOhlKSXc1yA3rD7M+RkSyjj3nVtxa4wyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tNUjD/GV8aeVg9JJPQ3D2sxZ/l42yNUodh6A9ejkzKYKbFZb/FXQbnsIVcNyjuffZy jOrgilnJ/bpFvckF1jxuk2ZvLlf95jJdS/zu1uy2FutsN2GIa1dDd1tCfG1ZaTdiLZr0 qdSdDwAjmy79QVBtnamlpLYPwGag+5a3XAKts= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D3DDCD2.5060907@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:33:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:33:49 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > thanx for the kind words Rainer > but say, who is =C2=A0RHCP? www.redhotchilipeppers.com Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:43:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1271183479; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3DF25F.7010608@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:42:55 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? References: <7258C967-018A-491C-BC85-3676212EFBC2@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <7258C967-018A-491C-BC85-3676212EFBC2@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0n9ZtB.A.N6H.mJfPNB@arsenic> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:43:02 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Thanks also to Luis for the Tapco link. Andy Owens' concerns about noise get me thinking more carefully, but it does point out that I could deal with my insert to main ahead of the level for the monitors by taking main out to the M300 and then back in an input that feeds only to the control room. I hadn't thought about that because in the past I've ended up using the control room feeds to get stereo feeds for loopers. Yeah, Mark, if you get creative, the 1202 really has a lot of routing options using the control room out. Remember that your tape outs can also be converted to a separate mains out channel as well, though it's unconventional to use it that way. I've just burned out the first two channels completely on my 1402 (it went to 15 different countries with me and took a LOT of abuse) so I'm down to 4 mic pres and it's just a matter of time before it gives up the ghost. Have you looked into the DTar Soulstice that Bill and I both use? It has two really high quality mic pres replete with insert sends and a separate effects loop. I'm not sure how many channels you use, but it's also got a really small footprint. The only possible trouble is that it only has the two ins, though you can hook both a mic and a line input into the same channel as I frequently do. I finally quit using my beloved Mackie when I tour because it's just too bulky and heavy. Right now, I'm carting my Mackie 1604 around with me if I have time to set up and an automobile for transport and I use my DTar if I'm flying anywhere. It has routing out the wazoo despite being large and bulky. 4 aux sends is Heaven!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:45:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A791B183482; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3DF2EF.3070300@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:45:19 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nemoguitt@aol.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: stereo References: <8CD89FA8009AFCA-1F20-41657@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CD89FA8009AFCA-1F20-41657@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_mLzaD.A._G.2LfPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:45:26 +0000 (UTC) I'm having my SISSIES FOR MONO t-shirt made up as we speak. I'm proud to be a sissy for mono. Who's with me? rick nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > mono is for sissies! > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:48:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 149D418348F; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=powC8MfUlSLbAGIE336qmk4hHJQwIwikKcGaGsv6d6Y=; b=PbpYLtlZBx/Sqvh0e140jHeefAoIcZrvencU0kZRVS6Fy4uyyfhNVfUS+SexDHRoeJ KcLS8q0bI+llfM1fmoDTRYTq/NzRA+DMEy+L7nsqENzFJmHz1lZKZao+dFaUCBQFHjT8 Pm/RzzVvsqnQ6n/xhxtw/e/EmTP1G7LvLI5FA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=voLVVjge8x6zrin0Kp6FMp7aR49ghDNVmJQ0W3+O2/sCynqlNHF7gW6PpY639hmvdN +/plerzBHiIIGMn1Wc7RmCLyWM/NwwxMWqc14lt5/YnR/b8WrmNeENGOSWmYpNMaRRp2 UiZV3bvx+5l4w2iZoBI/DUAnP5BLQ09eYEPx8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3DF2EF.3070300@cruzio.com> References: <8CD89FA8009AFCA-1F20-41657@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> <4D3DF2EF.3070300@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:48:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: stereo From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:48:23 +0000 (UTC) ill buy one too;-)) On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm having my =A0SISSIES FOR MONO t-shirt made up as we speak. > I'm proud to be a sissy for mono. =A0 Who's with me? > > rick > > > > > > nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >> >> mono is for sissies! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:48:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 801FA183498; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z+KB9M2eA7xDkEPetVT/A2+N8/qMhSpAIl2LPVn8v4c=; b=QOPhIIXiYQpZd7hLwBJ/k1LD/wR7iRywE9MAEVpG2GwWor2pAMwY2iDrMird2zS9KA xcprdBxG/zFDjqjkXlDeIi+KrbyYlC2Hg2kArm/nfMXN3qzvQX7FHRYh59v4CHjHVRie UoXW2tuq1PUqCH0WbPnqG4YGtBYT/Msp5ea00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mNYILNNrhxTi7xuZ1g6NAimUd1HzeBT+pVb9bZdNZhSLeo7YvVA27kjx3myo8yk/W4 PWgt/h+GAXeluu67J2wyBFVps7bpYgY+v0U1ZaD0WPgJzLq0KPBH+Y7HF0VZUEhvmp6o WwGADJTYft+q3vB/RghEQf12BWYSDUTT44bAE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:48:54 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Yeah I've been in contact with him but he's quoting something like 60 pounds in freight (almost $100 in shipping) so it winds up just a little bit under the price of the RMC Fanout box. I'm thinking I'll be shelving this thought for a while. Kevin On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Have=A0a look at this Kevin: > > http://billbax.110mb.com/ > > G > >> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:21:51 -0800 >> Subject: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box >> From: billowhead@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Hello soldier fiends, >> >> Having looked into the basic Midi breakout boxes available for the VG >> 8, etc, I realized, I don't have $400 to buy one of these. So looking >> around I found this >> http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=3D/profs/breakout >> >> Any of you technically inclined people have any advice on how to do >> this (for a basic novice who has soldered a thing or two but never >> built a functioning device)? I'm wondering a couple of things a), how >> feasible is this b) about how much a home brew would cost c) anyone >> with the skills willing to build one (for a fee of course). >> >> I'm at the level where I'm not sure I could actually do anything with >> these plans but I could probably put it together if I had the parts. >> >> Feel free to tell me I'm better off without the dream of processing >> six strings separately. I think I might be better off that way. >> Unless one of you out there...... >> >> Kevin >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl= e. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 21:54:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26B4F1834A2; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3DF51E.6080104@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:54:38 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Matthews CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) References: <1656C36D-0208-4F6F-BDAA-BA96F8D90D77@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1656C36D-0208-4F6F-BDAA-BA96F8D90D77@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:54:45 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Damn, Those are both great covers! Awesome vocals. Man I wish I could sing. That's the ultimate instrument. Oh well, a bow is better than nothing:) > > -Todd Mathews I think I read somewhere that John Coltrane said, "All instruments aspire to the human voice" And you know, I always wanted to sing and was always afraid (and didn't like the sound of my voice). Then as a producer, I kept hearing singer after singer say that they didn't like the sound of their voice, so I started. It finally occurred to me that most of those critical voices where inside my head, not outside of it as I had feared. I've been singing for 10 years now and am NOT an accomplished singer, but I can carry a tune and I think, occasionally, that the voice really does add something to the mix, even when only singing acapella or even used for effects simulation (sound effects, beatboxing, et.al.) What I tell my young music students is: Sing ever day........sing unison with what you play so that you kill two birds with one stone and remember all the people who started out with really limited chops and became successful singers. Some of my favorite singers don't have great voices, but they have tons of humanity in there own. Your inherent musicality is very evident, Todd. I say go for it. I started at the age of 47. I'm teaching a woman who started at 62. If you sing every single day, you will become a singer. That's how it works. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 22:04:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF34A1834AE; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DZrQ4gStZ6QE+TTsg8q6ajC8xmxclb+eUQeMModiD3c=; b=BM+KNb2/XBPsAWcxkbdu5tqfJEZgYo4BZus14k9WYIIFYJY+CLHbA0oRKj8fxD/iTk KbkD1G7pkN8NRt32ir8rIhu2r9qSbXZAIv0qqOUjswmoP1rE4h3ARaW9MCMCdfe7CW31 HObwKka5WN+yHxWyWbP7jerSxJbRVPJPyFjOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Hb1mwPCVR93QwSteg9mtTJn5PEKOC7ihR5z17nlT669Iqj08QOVBfJFS0TJKJP+0Fi f4zGMT7xZbW5B6Bt90H7ZzqqYhtRD3h5LqsF/HdqSL9qUcoIISTNRCdGdrh/OOTJvbUE SfoQMNPq+wK0WG5iUB3X3DSSl747luYnUoeS8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:04:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: fianlly a video of using mobius and ableton! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:04:21 +0000 (UTC) This is great,at least to get me started http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfNOnrqaYUA though having that click live is not good! could it be avoided? but very nice of this guy to share his wisdom on a vid,I wish there was more of this from you experienced gurus there is a great program for mac called screenflow which captures everything you are doing on your computer screen a breeze to use! Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 22:14:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21C981834B8; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=Iit417ue/W39C+jdWB7+SoImt1w8aRppQDFnp5v1lMo=; b=l1dl+4yzS20XQzrDKNsXHOsYd/uZfcCP2/yJlzWLkkbUvR7V23y1tyHKvdfenePhh2 nI8uc4q0OkcukawuSObCVF7gUn4gMjj+63FxpK0NLp047a9Ydp3HeOCPOfsZeWrh8qsZ LKEQFWwvQM95R2/mckMcy6w3yfLgORc+e9RVo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=PKCa9GMLFq13eYMoiuIcIhveNi0mAKlSExF6yArEh8XZdV0SeB+o1yam2iO/yewExh 03zjedD37MTmDZHnG8C3a/A4EfqT/dGgZGnSsGY9c84KJIzQ9Q1vvwuu/IfT9eBCULso EaSFbFjyqIJdoOFwv5MCPxYs1Jx0naG7OJfKQ= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: fianlly a video of using mobius and ableton! From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:14:40 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:14:44 +0000 (UTC) >=20 > though having that click live is not good! could it be avoided? Yes in Live you can have your monitored signal w/ click go to say = Outputs 3-4 on your audio interface and then Send Outputs 1-2 to the = house without the click. It called "Cue Out" and it's on the Master = Track in Live's session view. Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 22:17:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9225C1834C2; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <2050E8C4-DF50-4BDD-91AC-C59E0A234DEB@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--227332915 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: stereo Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:17:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:17:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--227332915 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit KloBoy Sprach: mono is for sissies! 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--Apple-Mail-5--227332915-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 22:26:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 604CB183483; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XJAWMjjaGtWagxbaEFBBVrnxm9mutI3QPaQKcUF8HJk=; b=XcnUmb9h2mPbhjgm2FERiqpiRpjAuk12xWRfU19GwePo7Isya/NUFHoFGEv0lxnAwO uEhDgD6sYvrwMMazm3KtSiFjh7wHYFzduK+d/NGLnM0JZydGm1jAyyUuVePJ5L+jm0l+ vFfWMwxMRcK9DSXWz3+21RxhLPLFfzWWJNkKU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U+pWcHkT3ROYQoqSf8Rg/IiMWSEaVgh8L4euOjFjUNb6ZhoDjlOOpg0ZiY80LyW/LO 9LfjtsGPDVceeLxLjw0gm27ry3X/tFryRbm91aqexGePC9x4TA1plvHEAigcv0Sx6Fme WcZecZ5b0DYAle1Q6OyLDNp/aBQiUcyGT7RkQ= Message-ID: <4D3DFC7E.6080402@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:26:06 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: a power question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Tom Swirly schrieb: > Second, both wireless units I'm looking at are actually DC powered > with what looks like a typical AC/DC adaptor. My other units that > have comparable such adaptors are all 110/220V in practice! > > What are the chances that the adaptor will actually work on 220V if I > tried it? I don't mind the chance of blowing the adaptor out, but I > really don't want to blow the unit itself out! If it's a standard AC/DC adaptor (meaning transformer followed by rectifier), then it will blow the unit. Unfortunately, most of the adaptors are this kind. Here's what I did for my "international rig": I replaced all of the adaptors with SPS type ones which take both 220 and 110 - problem solved. You can usually get them at your local electronics store. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 23:04:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60DA5183494; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mml6jnkn9ABzGvI5YP5rdBW8+tfd1vHUdrB+Bo451ys=; b=aGPOEtgLnAzPyCBZI3LIX4vj27xBzesJewGQG5ZCKILTa1OcXolVGMi5OKJuNmIGgW ZlkzvfNkbTNYLZ/kpJdDiIIZDSP+1mhV+Mer1CqDtVQeo7VELFC32Ai2EvROdzIfdU2v rQJ1VwXwuc/pIXa3BPrKzDh3TR430dngxqr7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YWSpjcg5+zm801RQYwnlC+wCVjeMvj4rYQ0NYI2VZiVUOt7SHJOh63gls9nj8rk9RB 4IjF5qFC2rUP4P4Ho5C9SPEii8Cz2EHJTwG0VCe5gv5ljV5b4FzVQubb9t4A5PgfNRlh kdmab4NKYmYlqKR98wNqL75+yuPg7nxZ6omag= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:04:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: fianlly a video of using mobius and ableton! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <9BiJ7C.A.GWD.EWgPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:04:36 +0000 (UTC) so it still would not mater if u just started a loop with no click reference,the drum loops would still be synced? this is the way im used to doing it with the EDP,if it works like that then grand! Luis On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> >> though having that click live is not good! could it be avoided? > > > Yes in Live you can have your monitored signal w/ click go to say Outputs 3-4 on your audio interface and then Send Outputs 1-2 to the house without the click. It called "Cue Out" and it's on the Master Track in Live's session view. > > Todd Matthews > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 23:19:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D536C1834AC; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=IPEwuhTKfJicyLRz82C58SViqHub6og11Fg4oBN3dPs=; b=G0YVANEtKSE2IuT/eG79Ki1rp3nKe5kqwEH3f8SByqA4viOq+dmV17yzCCs6tXZ4sl xpTRpq5uwv6a+owccO73tjKaBB2SLrvbmFcoyOrkKuv0/HSmU53FSxi5tNzmhQO0+YRY SEa/epuek9KSOudIausvkDthGCvlbAliLbh9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=C6DLpVSndvpjUnO9u3pGXbwCleZosmOS6ibQzIPypLh3bAxpI1VU1eDj7ocLlKOLeZ qfwZNYyevh17rSn01JvCsYMcs/n3m5Vn1F9YUC3vRaa/EML8sdu5GkdfJ44MoaSANjWu wHxsBBaw5ySLZ3/ttevecN/cdh8rgXKHAnWIA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: fianlly a video of using mobius and ableton! From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:19:50 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <1wjPg.A.v0D.akgPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:19:54 +0000 (UTC) The only way Live can work like that is with the latest version 8 of = Live. Now you can do that by using the plug-in, Looper, that can set the = tempo of the set depending on the length of your loop. Otherwise if you = record straight to audio clips you gotta listen to the click and sync = yourself to the machine to have everything sync up.....or maybe start = some live audio clips with drums first. Then you'd could play in sync = with Live's tempo without having to use a click. Although the is only = from what I remember since it's been a bit since I used Live for live = performance. Please correct me if I'm wrong. >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Todd Matthews = wrote: >>>=20 >>> though having that click live is not good! could it be avoided? >>=20 >>=20 >> Yes in Live you can have your monitored signal w/ click go to say = Outputs 3-4 on your audio interface and then Send Outputs 1-2 to the = house without the click. It called "Cue Out" and it's on the Master = Track in Live's session view. >>=20 >> Todd Matthews >>=20 >>=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 23:29:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8EDA1834AC; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nya1Tuvxxd+HQmJwBVKTYHsgO7kct+p5PpLblqRXrQY=; b=e49axm4yGYVKW69H1rqNE1XypKH2NAl8t4n4Mg3XsKUcen7+v1q3Uvv5bz27lBapXo e10ENiEMW+zDU5VsPXNUj5eYWyhvtc5utI11fsfntNh2akQSAYfpkdcuMsE/37NSGCp+ PaoRdeit3ZXKHGtbEkO6heLhSGFg/GuophrN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o5Oy/l8c08oUXRznfRcwVB7mAX6ydkJK1JEhzTp3lb/7bomjsZuBd8LnclLNT5xYDo op2/u+ku2ojkhKAY+ec8Db6IKjUy/q2u+T1775ZPVYeAUuBzTUbUVPZGRfkoGjb8TTTh rlc0ZyF0xti7HILYTBttIfC+BHE7A1my+H9os= Message-ID: <4D3E0AF2.2050905@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:27:46 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: fianlly a video of using mobius and ableton! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Am 25.01.2011 00:19, schrieb Todd Matthews: > The only way Live can work like that is with the latest version 8 of Live. Now you can do that by using the plug-in, Looper, that can set the tempo of the set depending on the length of your loop. Otherwise if you record straight to audio clips you gotta listen to This was also possible since "day one" (I only started to use Live w/ version 4, but I believe it was also possible in earlier versions) using any looper (hardware or software) that would create a MIDI clock and issue a MIDI start command and syncing Live to that. In the software domain, I have been doing that successfully since about 2005 (or 2006?) using Möbius. What you need here, however, is to route Möbius' MIDI output to Live, which is best accomplished using a software MIDI patch cable such as MIDIYoke or LoopBe. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 23:32:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 610161834AD; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A528C5@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Trimming Down: Mixer options? Thread-Index: Acu8HvPzRz1PU9NpQMioDxAF4hUi5A== Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:32:06 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2011 23:32:52.0679 (UTC) FILETIME=[05294570:01CBBC1F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Oh good mine older.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Louie Angulo wrot= e: > no the blend 6 you can use any standard AC 9V power supply. > Luis >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Andy Owens wrote:= >> Another buyer beware on the tapco is that the power supply is external an= d very specific, if you lose it or it blows you are screwed. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:43 AM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? >>=20 >> Unfortunately the Tapco is no longer in production. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >>> the Tapco Blend 6,the smallest you gonna get with 2 aux and >>> returns,EQ,ctr room out,tape ins and out,headphones,master vol >>> control,fits in a bag or even a pedalboard,looks cool,very clean >>> sounding i love it! >>>=20 >>> http://www.tapcoworld.com/products/blend6/specs.html >>>=20 >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . >>=20 >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>=20 >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 23:34:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F04601834AA; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yTGkQ6oFfyUnvENPM4IRLG8e3uJTdJj8PRX9v5lFjnU=; b=QTPOE2Hez4ccwhktZNbyFw05IbAPHGW0PSz32Liy0Z0AUCK0BQEIwmH9eunF2zu5Vt UwWY6qNbVvduwCFwfQhg1tybNTE7tARYsnMmZnaU9oxMhVfzDepv9JmSvzCQXHlRyal+ Knl/mi6V2y8DsSh+klivNt7NyVMDjXu7GDifk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L2utEtBfKuGpW0B7VBMSxt2cBCzRVGI9OMUTLSTVfFTtXEqALTL1D1X/p8lv4jc9O5 Gl+7AjhEwRgu0ar+GnXYvIwtoBi2K+VZeTEVJc8vFUvZqRA24pDU8o1oaUKtdk/oMz1Q 39lXg0kEGuIvCQiTpE6h1U55/XsnoFng9WB+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:34:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: m-13 m-9 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:34:18 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 6:59 PM, William Walker wr= ote: >> Sjaak said: >> =A0=A0The=A0analog delays can sound very harsh and anything but warm, I = don't like >> them personally, the DD-20 analog delay emulation is far better than >> the M9 or M13. > =A0Hey Sjaak are you referring to the way these delays respond to regener= ation > feedback? If so I see your point, when using run away regeneration I've > noticed a certain > harshness when going in to self oscillation but other wise They sound fin= e. That's exactly what I mean. I have to check the exact settings of my M13 patches but I think it's the analog delay with modulation which sounds harsh when you set feedback too high. On the other hand, you can use it to create nice ambient texture like crickets ;-) Regarding the DD-20, the sound of the analog delay differs a lot from the M13. With feedback between 90% 100%, you can create beautiful sounding textures with a decay of minutes and imo it sounds less harsh and more usefull in the mix compared to the line 6. > This is a really nice processor Gareth that can do > ambience textures really well and is more loaded feature -wise than anyth= ing > in its price range. The only effect I know of in its class with two > expression pedal ports for effects depth morphing. This feature alone giv= es > the M-9 so much control its ridiculous. I agree with that 100%, that's why I bought it and happy with it. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 24 23:54:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB8E51834B0; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BeNZSvaKTbGSrKpfDEEOSeDKJ+41CJP86pxm1Kaa23k=; b=QA94DS5OOhjfbt0HX3yQl/CeGB6sOa3gQU/vCW5g70lqnqYoHI1SVG8CH8yh+48zG1 VXAHlbE3ORRHzLuKmP3PlSqMj0G+yvBukZEy+5nmXNXPUr/NFOZ7I3UibiKTZVNdUSFN otWwFrd4lg8+s5qi36KHmkiXoIlmCqui5vwIw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BGPEOuUimTjh8TUBaInH+qSuvx78OPiqaGSrU/LdViUkg9t6ZmtKjiHkMczEA23P0R 3aZSdWShM9CY6QbOxRky6PJ2xeOimIiGh84XNFag7HlLktq4EZitj8+XGrNLzIGYn6Ht CLHhtQfCVhx5t+xCe6UFolkBepgNTJZlpkMjw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3E0AF2.2050905@googlemail.com> References: <4D3E0AF2.2050905@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:54:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: fianlly a video of using mobius and ableton! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:54:56 +0000 (UTC) ok Rainer,so let me get this straight,that means i just install LoopBe for ex. assgn the midi out port of mobius to midi in port of ableton live to slave it and whenever i start a loop the audio clips in live will stretch and sync to my mobius loops? that would be it!! Luis On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Am 25.01.2011 00:19, schrieb Todd Matthews: >> >> The only way Live can work like that is with the latest version 8 of Liv= e. >> Now you can do that by using the plug-in, Looper, that can set the tempo= of >> the set depending on the length of your loop. Otherwise if you record >> straight to audio clips you gotta listen to > > This was also possible since "day one" (I only started to use Live w/ > version 4, but I believe it was also possible in earlier versions) using = any > looper (hardware or software) that would create a MIDI clock and issue a > MIDI start command and syncing Live to that. > In the software domain, I have been doing that successfully since about 2= 005 > (or 2006?) using M=F6bius. What you need here, however, is to route M=F6b= ius' > MIDI output to Live, which is best accomplished using a software MIDI pat= ch > cable such as MIDIYoke or LoopBe. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 00:01:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5211A1834BD; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <2050E8C4-DF50-4BDD-91AC-C59E0A234DEB@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: stereo Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:01:34 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <2050E8C4-DF50-4BDD-91AC-C59E0A234DEB@baymoon.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33124-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD8A3A29F660AF-1710-5150@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:01:48 +0000 (UTC) <> well.....being both a professional singer and dancer, i can go on record and say "the kidz, today, wants the stereo"......they wants=20 the 5.1, they wants the 3-D, they wants the H.D.....you can't stop progress=20 young bill!.....let go of the past..... be tamari!.....send me a box of rubies and i will send you a HD 7.3 4D=20 DVD that will show you how to do this! .....why?.....because i'm that kind-o-guy! =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 00:07:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A6C61834C9; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GqLHlJMiQ4RsC4zilUcadqRgbVGe5WqDyZEO7RvBIrM=; b=EEuhB6tb5J5jT3ODoqWnNDNBGd6G41HMCk4wrjjEqznfNGMLORK2xZdGb+OEGkWZsg yZXeAB83Kz7YxAuQyv/KEsBFUxs9r7VOA159FRTCixVTiwEG76Ppi4I2/lWYInsPGIwE obl1/x6KRhzonLMYqosj8ldrHGxve4+hRLck0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dj3SVvU+qhfXYOPbadq2o2lVPs60LL8d6c4b6hdTkiUELxzmr5MQJgesPP3zGU3jvz gVgkDdR6WgkCyFS902loQZkwmcmZHFRwz7R6JdWf8zZ7zVzWgNALmrvi2iH7f/Rs1vzQ l82o/Zo2QEUd9fRzruV4Rdv4GDVItGiX/Q0FE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7B840268-E9DB-40D8-8402-E6F86781FF40@1800dialword.com> References: <7B840268-E9DB-40D8-8402-E6F86781FF40@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:07:47 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LoopGrass From: Gary Lehmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ca87aa91dc5049aa081e5 Resent-Message-ID: <48BHTB.A.JrF.URhPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:07:48 +0000 (UTC) --0015175ca87aa91dc5049aa081e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It wasn't me, but I am doing that. I'm using an RC-20 and a Digitech Jamman--I brought my EDP in to the gig this week, but it's more setup than I want to do for the money I'm making 8( I'm in San Diego 8) On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Howdy folks > > A few years ago I met somebody on here who was looping Bluegrass and > Oldtime and he had a computer based loop program. He was in northern > Californee, anybody remember who that is? > > Andy of the O's > --0015175ca87aa91dc5049aa081e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It wasn't me, but I am doing that.
I'm using an RC-20 and a Digi= tech Jamman--I brought my EDP in to the gig this week, but it's more se= tup than I want to do for the money I'm making 8(
I'm in San Die= go 8)

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Andy Owens = <andy@1800dia= lword.com> wrote:
Howdy folks

A few years ago I met somebody on here who was looping Bluegrass and Oldtim= e and he had a computer based loop program. He was in northern Californee, = anybody remember who that is?

Andy of the O's

--0015175ca87aa91dc5049aa081e5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 00:10:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 957931834DB; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=DIdcKM8rgJoa6OjlR8S0GCnebpsg6ASrJV/B0XhRAIM=; b=wY2mu7seY/LzuJLdbRk5uME+b4GCR2W5Wiw7vLraML6AkSBqjvgebvjqHXNinJSxm2 038tbMlA3kyhVXNDOU7RqNrrLD5ELhSCIOLh/T9WNL3NmPERFptAiIfZic5qZGcTPsxM Ys/Fn1O4Fk4nc4oHhGQBIt6bkRKgcSr+q/rSQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=CyWqGQJX8CAaCruWH93J3h3K2Nguk4uZBjxzlY4HIz0GLelN+16dqPvwCzIJ9RX37Q At+G91I1frooq+Gu/GwytPxdwkFMl7piUv+46yT+Yt0jCBZI9yhWZ7DlBWxnqRuWPevN ZmR3TKL1/3j0/7+ECSqs59+UsYPplDB6KS+/M= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: fianlly a video of using mobius and ableton! From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4D3E0AF2.2050905@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:10:42 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D3E0AF2.2050905@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Rainer for the correction. That makes sense. I guess if your on = mac you could use the built in IAC midi bus as well without even needing = to download extra software. On Jan 24, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Am 25.01.2011 00:19, schrieb Todd Matthews: >> The only way Live can work like that is with the latest version 8 of = Live. Now you can do that by using the plug-in, Looper, that can set the = tempo of the set depending on the length of your loop. Otherwise if you = record straight to audio clips you gotta listen to > This was also possible since "day one" (I only started to use Live w/ = version 4, but I believe it was also possible in earlier versions) using = any looper (hardware or software) that would create a MIDI clock and = issue a MIDI start command and syncing Live to that. > In the software domain, I have been doing that successfully since = about 2005 (or 2006?) using M=F6bius. What you need here, however, is to = route M=F6bius' MIDI output to Live, which is best accomplished using a = software MIDI patch cable such as MIDIYoke or LoopBe. >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 00:16:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D78951834E6; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: m-13 m-9 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:16:43 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33124-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD8A3C476929DB-1710-54B5@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:16:52 +0000 (UTC) just got off the phone with mr bill walker and he cornvinced me that=20 the M 13 plus 2 xpression pedals will get me on the GRAMMYS next year!.....I LOVE MY M=20 13!!!!!.....it's understandably deep! i learn something new every time i turn it on.....it is definitly a=20 MNPD (more knobs per $) device..... they should print LET'S GET AMBIENT on all their boxes! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 00:43:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 370A618349B; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ojmcvoMKxCMNcO7TEvVp68zZzaCromv8VZcJYFC5Otw=; b=Dj9QFozeMUCAiJ8KcJ226DLxaFnL4iFfa5J0yOmoI6jQdWpgrFgWHxrlaUKXCpwb3b AAyKnDpw7m+KOb19JppAHHnNp3sBq7JeWawNJnYbcQrwEICj6sJ3tzthMM7z2ujws1rZ Gidfx0z2bhiW5tBIxNkUJiVwX/Cwg/ka7qZB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SeNwfQWJP3N0aY3qJFxx16ICCSOkTfoAjExa/J9og2GvFKnfhpWQmnWdtg00N65A7C WF9CJzNk9sYU+CItDVXdBab6zVTUqdclbEGMsoiXer834wC328GDBZI9d+y6TRfrkIcv ERJUky3FzwDSpDu1qRr3kHAIjOO9ERLlmNnUc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD8A3C476929DB-1710-54B5@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD8A3C476929DB-1710-54B5@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:43:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: m-13 m-9 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:43:32 +0000 (UTC) yeah, and dont forget to invite us to the grammys Michael,dont wanna miss that ill bring some gummy bears and beer that ok with ya? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:16 AM, wrote: > just got off the phone with mr bill walker and he cornvinced me that the M > 13 plus 2 xpression > pedals will get me on the GRAMMYS next year!.....I LOVE MY M > 13!!!!!.....it's understandably deep! > i learn something new every time i turn it on.....it is definitly a MNPD > (more knobs per $) device..... > they should print LET'S GET AMBIENT on all their boxes! > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 00:45:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53F731834AA; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HS1nuC66s9bURRIviu2PmoZH1ZasoEVoz5iz5t1uoeI=; b=N9T2YBZ+kZezdBmeiG5Z10za240/v+WmLW/VSbrtBtMAMxRJ6xkqWDssL8PWHQhJQR fmM7QnLYrgJRNV8T18MTYf2MlwEAmY+uQ2fv5UnY57nswIo2uUYvG5rkXIhK0dPh60jp o+BzPm5zsI/qJ4ogzv+qGe8ZlpiztcXOsziuY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qns3wqwqs+ZDTiHa0y7lcqm+gq9ZCbj0cJofy6wpkLUq7Dfo0JsCpYwov7j9NVKbel rb2kUXYmkCj5T9wMuMbGLy8ZyUPD5D1I3OMHWZftcSEBvusTnOfZkUi8tqFypgzVDl72 s+um+7XW33ChbEyckQdMk/BOyaZh4e74Kdzw4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD8A3A29F660AF-1710-5150@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com> References: <2050E8C4-DF50-4BDD-91AC-C59E0A234DEB@baymoon.com> <8CD8A3A29F660AF-1710-5150@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:45:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: stereo From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:45:31 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:01 AM, wrote: > bill!.....let go of the past..... > be tamari!..... tamari...is that some sort of soy sauce? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 00:50:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7B1F1834BC; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LdPw08fjYwahbBoXRjQqkZ5gKblx/CdD9My1/GsfmVQ=; b=FKgerm6b59wOVaUQ7dUOWj8z5iSOQ6jYPw3fCm2Oi0QDFr7ZpF9yabiLUgsbJ+UY79 Yx/uO8lnyHKly25QhvaUl376P0f3OOyO++FEJcD0OX3UOPpjOLHeqYy6qMBoPGJ3RXM+ JpeIVGuB5LMwGrNQ+0MwxPgKHcHEpTBQZFRMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dPAZLAlLjxUhs6sdKQO//s4hrSCxZa1oVM+6oINT2xz3Phv6XLZUkd3X/J7ThSG5qZ ZRPp0TT6VMLl30PItHN56tCPDBwYolkDmTYBX6LmLNYs5VhuetloivxAvrYPlpFRXcZu s2WHLKYt6jyup5JlZiv5Leh8JnD6vGADiST9Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:50:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:50:15 +0000 (UTC) wow,what a "lively" website... had to take my glasses off for a minute On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Have=A0a look at this Kevin: > > http://billbax.110mb.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 01:27:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50CCB1834C7; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MB5srCuuIBImN6lMmIy6YsT1h72KxXuLKgKFibZiIQM=; b=LOgEAA9TuI9mBaKZXTvmGdgQinGMZbcoO/9FIgCTv769hdki72L1QRUdbduru1z1u2 dNFcsfvIOPkHhRC+jRH4a2YVmnU1D3pr1OsMiqSJsS7fcL/wKObh+2k+wvULLvfqp6h7 qJtpkpKhTQumyVAoXkiiiWqVgJ5NicaOBNO1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mLIpqUkavS3QTw8XZvoM05P7ONRSumFObKtMVswmX2/obhSgQmP0mLQPg+c6fq88xI cKbIHg1vgByeQX8TfiSNmbtYhuZaPZ8Ww9UwDAylpZUEHBOLnuUtu5fOKUIawCCRjxef aYDK7KGw9VX54TvP1kmIwJwrJXqvb+oowzEJY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:27:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: the POK wireless footcontroller From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:27:18 +0000 (UTC) well here is something cool http://www.xtempozone.com/ here is a gal using it,seems well suited for Ableton: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPCiM_vwJ54&NR=1 anybody has any experiences with it? i dont think it has been mentioned here cheers Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 02:59:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AC5A183489; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <9F371F8D-B559-4881-B253-7CDA8D950587@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: the POK wireless footcontroller Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:59:09 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:59:12 +0000 (UTC) i investigated it a while back but rejected it because you can't make it send midi. my understanding is that its just a wireless keyboard for your feet. On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > well here is something cool > > http://www.xtempozone.com/ > > here is a gal using it,seems well suited for Ableton: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPCiM_vwJ54&NR=1 > > anybody has any experiences with it? i dont think it has been > mentioned here > cheers > Luis > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 03:25:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABCF2183477; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 03:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3E42B8.3030100@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:25:44 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nemoguitt@aol.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: stereo References: <8CD8A3A29F660AF-1710-5150@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CD8A3A29F660AF-1710-5150@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 03:25:53 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > send me a box of rubies and i will send you a HD 7.3 4D DVD that will > show you how to do this! > .....why?.....because i'm that kind-o-guy! I have a box of cubic zirconium, Scoots. Will that do? I'm seriously thinking about eliminating my mono rig and going 4D (for the kidz).......this will help me do that with no muss or fuss. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 04:51:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3236818347B; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dCYu7OxZDsOL4zgJhz5Z5YDATBVR++fTWcZ+ibH0zxI=; b=WDpL0Aerb9RsQ8SJ0gGtx9FfTZxnovISV39uNmnqsfVJM6ruhAnHdggngvlxXibQp+ BDPxVao6OZ4ZRwkFtXTqW3Lv2fpIL9TN81BagQVMxx/mEDDBQ+oysaUX9bnWzc7hBte2 Fl3/a/mwdkRPh35Maz38LrRFdv+yhrYndeL5s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=siVQasp+liXhm1o4VBCDaJxF7NS4b6MyTy+T1xtzuISglozZhQ1OUjTlUBXNASHBau 9OYiXTDWkzHw8DOBiM5OZt4Y8qvuMfgf524fZnl4NUn6Sr+ddzoOXnc/v8rYbR9Gvreo /dokXcEH+xDwUes4+VQIppi60xyiL6GZ4P9xw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7B840268-E9DB-40D8-8402-E6F86781FF40@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:51:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LoopGrass From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2e91288e5049aa479da Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:51:45 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2e91288e5049aa479da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looping bluegrass, sounds like something John McCuen or Sam Bush would be i= n to Andy, actually the thought sounds rather cool. Noticed you are teaching or have at Steve Kaufman's camp. I got to know Steve a little bit when I first came in to the Mel Bay family. Don't think he would remember me now but he gave me some good input several years ago. Feels you will bring an interesting mix into the community Andy, welcome... Jim On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Gary Lehmann wrote= : > It wasn't me, but I am doing that. > I'm using an RC-20 and a Digitech Jamman--I brought my EDP in to the gig > this week, but it's more setup than I want to do for the money I'm making= 8( > I'm in San Diego 8) > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Andy Owens wrote= : > >> Howdy folks >> >> A few years ago I met somebody on here who was looping Bluegrass and >> Oldtime and he had a computer based loop program. He was in northern >> Californee, anybody remember who that is? >> >> Andy of the O's >> > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a2e91288e5049aa479da Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looping bluegrass, sounds like something John McCuen or Sam Bush would be i= n to Andy, actually the thought sounds rather cool. =A0Noticed you are teac= hing or have at Steve Kaufman's camp. =A0I got to know Steve a little b= it when I first came in to the Mel Bay family. =A0Don't think he would = remember me now but he gave me some good input several years ago. =A0Feels = you will bring an interesting mix into the community Andy, welcome...

Jim

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 a= t 7:07 PM, Gary Lehmann <gnarlyheman@gmail.com> wrote:
It wasn't me, but I am doing that.
I'm using an RC-20 and a Digi= tech Jamman--I brought my EDP in to the gig this week, but it's more se= tup than I want to do for the money I'm making 8(
I'm in San Die= go 8)


On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Andy Owens = <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
Howdy folks

A few years ago I met somebody on here who was looping Bluegrass and Oldtim= e and he had a computer based loop program. He was in northern Californee, = anybody remember who that is?

Andy of the O's




--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a2e91288e5049aa479da-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 04:57:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B372183481; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=k3c80zxvQKVVgveqyrfhKCNlEbOK+O2yOp7cn84dl3Q=; b=xol92aCahp15NDQe3mAOY41kRwG9Qv3v1+rzLAjLoJLFQEBMfhkjdlX73SyzxG+e1K XqUFjOBMErJlzVsuLEr4xWf8p6tR1M7g62OdMktbttmIbfEYJn1an7NjwBx6UcTIKyEa PzzRHqwmTWIQcV3rKk1l6jPjI8NrCQlehiIbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HpVR+2/Km7TcsYnmJtP+q65TMdSpGrCoyMqQusrd45h19Zo5IHJxqD7tVxtiN/HQ0s 4kjSw1jx81YyQwuTLRn8WQMUxEwxmCJqBkgEYc3jokknJDhdvFkMPLJaKk5i/ojlIXT+ VTkQMRms749d0d/RA1GGIpS1wCTFtq8KQ8fMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9F371F8D-B559-4881-B253-7CDA8D950587@zoekeating.com> References: <9F371F8D-B559-4881-B253-7CDA8D950587@zoekeating.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:57:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the POK wireless footcontroller From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:57:40 +0000 (UTC) wow and quite expensive just for that! On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > i investigated it a while back but rejected it because you can't make it > send midi. my understanding is that its just a wireless keyboard for your > feet. > > On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> well here is something cool >> >> http://www.xtempozone.com/ >> >> here is a gal using it,seems well suited for Ableton: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPCiM_vwJ54&NR=1 >> >> anybody has any experiences with it? i dont think it has been mentioned >> here >> cheers >> Luis >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 06:00:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57E1A183484; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 06:00:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ff1e1d76-af94-4a70-ad29-92134075a1b0_" X-Originating-IP: [72.161.88.201] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: Soft Step - any software issues? Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:00:06 -0600 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2011 06:00:07.0066 (UTC) FILETIME=[1DEF5FA0:01CBBC55] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 06:00:08 +0000 (UTC) --_ff1e1d76-af94-4a70-ad29-92134075a1b0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable howdy loopies=2C i was just about to purchase the soft step through amazon for my "busking" = rig=2C but noticed these 2 reviews=2C both within the last 2 weeks- ---------------------- The Max5 based software still a little buggy (as of Jan-2011=2C =20 V.1.03) and could be better=2C and hopefully will be soon if the quality=20 of the pedal is any indication. =20 and...... A little buggy? Absolutely unusable software. Tons of time getting=20 presets established=2C you go to a different scene and then come back=2C an= d many of your presets are screwed up. Names have changed=2C presets for=20 one pedal are suddenly showing up in a different pedal=2C parameters are=20 changed. Wow. Unless they've got a fix in the next 24hrs this thing is going back. What a shame=2C because the thing had such amazing promise. Completely unreliable=2C though. God forbid you get those horrid preset ch= anges during a gig... =20 ---------------------- i hadnt heard of any issues=2C but maybe i overlooked a massive thread- any= one having similar problemos or is everything groovy? ty! fro The Wandering Madman=20 = --_ff1e1d76-af94-4a70-ad29-92134075a1b0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable howdy loopies=2C

i was just about to purchase the soft step through = amazon for my "busking" rig=2C but noticed these 2 reviews=2C both within t= he last 2 weeks-

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The Max5 based softwa= re still a little buggy (as of Jan-2011=2C =20 V.1.03) and could be better=2C and hopefully will be soon if the quality=20 of the pedal is any indication.

and......

A little buggy? Absolutely unusable softwar= e. Tons of time getting=20 presets established=2C you go to a different scene and then come back=2C an= d many of your presets are screwed up. Names have changed=2C presets for=20 one pedal are suddenly showing up in a different pedal=2C parameters are=20 changed.

Wow. Unless they've got a fix in the next 24hrs this thing is going ba= ck.

What a shame=2C because the thing had such amazing promise.

Completely unreliable=2C though. God forbid you get those horrid prese= t changes during a gig...
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i hadnt heard of any issues=2C but = maybe i overlooked a massive thread- anyone having similar problemos or is = everything groovy?


ty!

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The= Wandering Madman

= --_ff1e1d76-af94-4a70-ad29-92134075a1b0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 06:56:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD747183485; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 06:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=rfCs1ZmR4ScBYxAJkDtXOQAdop1dgjCF2VG3/QtkENI=; b=FGCtkER48OztZSQ+l7qqTDNna5UkPdwrbl0Neo+C7XaiibIJO5EAcHFGfo7B4tsOkW 4HgbUlYx3aV0PWbN0Zahc+hignvYxZKKSOPM6meiwUiG9yYnxKCEYvlVP2lSuTkICZAW QS8S4YSCySS8YdcfdtMzeOyQ0z19TIeLcJ06Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=PT7HjYhtzieGPeKxw5pODIIjYAPe5DKtd17lv9YTccNF6YzmraHTCVMDC2UaE0ohhi FDyEm0COk00+zdONkqczeBXE9n8dMN4qyBBWb3uInP6s7f5tIWxnTPfH5WYF5dqXinMH fLORyP+p6O7Q7RrZD3HmIybWz4Mp0USe3HQEQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D3DFC7E.6080402@googlemail.com> References: <4D3DFC7E.6080402@googlemail.com> From: Tom Swirly Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:55:43 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NiyDI18RLKPEPEp9IKBFmXfWZnc Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: a power question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367b5e42baaf46049aa6353d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 06:56:05 +0000 (UTC) --0016367b5e42baaf46049aa6353d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Don't like the sound of "blowing" the unit! Good to know, though, I'll hit a store before I go... On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Tom Swirly schrieb: > > Second, both wireless units I'm looking at are actually DC powered with >> what looks like a typical AC/DC adaptor. My other units that have >> comparable such adaptors are all 110/220V in practice! >> What are the chances that the adaptor will actually work on 220V if I >> tried it? I don't mind the chance of blowing the adaptor out, but I really >> don't want to blow the unit itself out! >> > If it's a standard AC/DC adaptor (meaning transformer followed by > rectifier), then it will blow the unit. Unfortunately, most of the adaptors > are this kind. > Here's what I did for my "international rig": I replaced all of the > adaptors with SPS type ones which take both 220 and 110 - problem solved. > You can usually get them at your local electronics store. > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > -- /t http://radio.swirly.com - art music radio 24/7 366/1000 --0016367b5e42baaf46049aa6353d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't like the sound of "blowing" the unit! =C2=A0Good to kno= w, though, I'll hit a store before I go...

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Rainer Straschill = <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Tom Swirly schrieb:

Second, both wireless units I'm looking at are actually DC powered with= what looks like a typical AC/DC adaptor. =C2=A0My other units that have co= mparable such adaptors are all 110/220V in practice!
What are the chances that the adaptor will actually work on 220V if I tried= it? =C2=A0I don't mind the chance of blowing the adaptor out, but I re= ally don't want to blow the unit itself out!
If it's a standard AC/DC adaptor (meaning transformer followed by recti= fier), then it will blow the unit. Unfortunately, most of the adaptors are = this kind.
Here's what I did for my "international rig": I replaced all = of the adaptors with SPS type ones which take both 220 and 110 - problem so= lved. You can usually get them at your local electronics store.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rainer

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--0016367b5e42baaf46049aa6353d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 07:33:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E01B2183488; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 829 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:33:34 UTC Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:19:44 -0600 From: Shayne Cafferata Subject: OT: Suitcase music studio To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <9338E413C82B422BB270D1ECC98E9D79@ShaynePC> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_gcN7L+HzCpsTx32SRveeNw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-25_03:2011-01-25,2011-01-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-1012030000 definitions=main-1101240251 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:33:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_gcN7L+HzCpsTx32SRveeNw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM0uSef9oCQ&feature=player_embedded what a beautiful little setup! it's like a toybox full of action figures. and they play so nicely together... my wife says when our last son leaves homes she wants us to sell our house and belongings and buy a motorhome to live out the rest of our days in(or until we run out of gas money, or until peak oil comes to fruition, which should be any day now). i look at my shed and various rooms full of 25 years of musician detritus and think, "ahh shit, this is not gonna fit..." being more a knob twiddler than softwary, your suitcase is utterly inspiring! shayne --Boundary_(ID_gcN7L+HzCpsTx32SRveeNw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
 
what a beautiful little setup! it's like a toybox full of action figures. and they play so nicely together...
my wife says when our last son leaves homes she wants us to sell our house and belongings and buy a motorhome to live out the rest of our days in(or until we run out of gas money, or until peak oil comes to fruition, which should be any day now). i look at my shed and various rooms full of 25 years of musician detritus and think, "ahh shit, this is not gonna fit..." 
being more a knob twiddler than softwary, your suitcase is utterly inspiring!
 
shayne 
 
--Boundary_(ID_gcN7L+HzCpsTx32SRveeNw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 07:39:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7472818348A; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:39:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=O2Unlb/ZQu8rWMEtAGSsWnoVAmi55e4gienxpMbtxRw=; b=Kv+lgUHauNoftxDFbxL5kKyFmHltT9DfTo85NhzqzHjrgFo5BTiEZofYnvU6eHyQ0n pxNj8MsTKTnMNNzziU3vp9GjgmO6CZX/JyG3sxQI1oF+ElvZsq7LpKE6sWECNAsvAO0v PokUh9Ugn1nZdNPx69xwdNl0BSTAw/P2VLA8c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=teA+BpBeb7aAUZuz2a4ZQUiz0LfSMSUIlguDBtZonRUCxa062t+fkdjL0eQBt15YSj 4goiGrbi/vMMs2mAjqPctRV9eM7W55ZZA71/rcktPQkVWFITaCKBx+mx71U9q4dA4tJm HcFmj1An+D7yDIL0ulcgD3tSDgOI8q5tOBaFY= References: <1656C36D-0208-4F6F-BDAA-BA96F8D90D77@gmail.com> <4D3DF51E.6080104@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <4D3DF51E.6080104@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:39:07 +0100 Message-ID: <2882400052162534099@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir (Mainstage+Mobius+Softstep) To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:39:25 +0000 (UTC) That's great Rick, I'm going to start singing today... You are right... My fave singers have terrible voices traditionally.... Beefheart, john Lydon, Malcolm mooney, the residents, nico, yoko, Astrid Gilberto... None can really belt out in perfect pitch , but all are KNOWN for their voices!!! Btw.. I'm gonna get this voice app for iPhone and do a kinda autotune industrial distortion vocal.... Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 24 Jan 2011, at 22:54, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> Damn, Those are both great covers! Awesome vocals. Man I wish I could sing. That's the ultimate instrument. Oh well, a bow is better than nothing:) >> >> -Todd Mathews > I think I read somewhere that John Coltrane said, "All instruments aspire to the human voice" > > And you know, I always wanted to sing and was always afraid (and didn't like the sound of my voice). > Then as a producer, I kept hearing singer after singer say that they didn't like the sound of their voice, > so I started. It finally occurred to me that most of those critical voices where inside my head, not outside > of it as I had feared. I've been singing for 10 years now and am NOT an accomplished singer, but I can carry > a tune and I think, occasionally, that the voice really does add something to the mix, even when only > singing acapella or even used for effects simulation (sound effects, beatboxing, et.al.) > > What I tell my young music students is: Sing ever day........sing unison with what you play so that you kill two > birds with one stone and remember all the people who started out with really limited chops and became successful > singers. Some of my favorite singers don't have great voices, but they have tons of humanity in there own. > > Your inherent musicality is very evident, Todd. I say go for it. I started at the age of 47. I'm teaching a woman > who started at 62. > > If you sing every single day, you will become a singer. That's how it works. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 07:55:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31F5718348B; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Soft Step - any software issues? References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-12--193127060"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Thread-Topic: Soft Step - any software issues? Thread-Index: Acu8ZC2DfUwRdEMTTQKKzm/GktmfYQ== Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:47:32 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2011 07:55:49.0474 (UTC) FILETIME=[47EEC420:01CBBC65] Resent-Message-ID: <4MjjpC.A.sbF.HIoPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:55:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12--193127060 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Fro, for what its worth, I talked to them at namm and they said all those is= sues are ironed out, but you know what else they gonna say. Pretty sure it h= as to have a computer to run so busking? Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:00 AM, "FRO DIDDLY" wrote: > howdy loopies, >=20 > i was just about to purchase the soft step through amazon for my "busking"= rig, but noticed these 2 reviews, both within the last 2 weeks- >=20 > ---------------------- >=20 > The Max5 based software still a little buggy (as of Jan-2011, V.1.03) and c= ould be better, and hopefully will be soon if the quality of the pedal is a= ny indication.=20 >=20 > and...... >=20 > A little buggy? Absolutely unusable software. Tons of time getting presets= established, you go to a different scene and then come back, and many of yo= ur presets are screwed up. Names have changed, presets for one pedal are sud= denly showing up in a different pedal, parameters are changed.=20 >=20 > Wow. Unless they've got a fix in the next 24hrs this thing is going back.=20= >=20 > What a shame, because the thing had such amazing promise.=20 >=20 > Completely unreliable, though. God forbid you get those horrid preset chan= ges during a gig...=20 > ---------------------- >=20 > i hadnt heard of any issues, but maybe i overlooked a massive thread- anyo= ne having similar problemos or is everything groovy? >=20 >=20 > ty! >=20 > fro >=20 > The Wandering Madman=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-12--193127060 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Fro, for what its worth, I talked to them at namm and they said all those issues are ironed out, but you know what else they gonna say. Pretty sure it has to have a computer to run so busking?

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:00 AM, "FRO DIDDLY" <parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:

howdy loopies,

i was just about to purchase the soft step through amazon for my "busking" rig, but noticed these 2 reviews, both within the last 2 weeks-

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The Max5 based software still a little buggy (as of Jan-2011, V.1.03) and could be better, and hopefully will be soon if the quality of the pedal is any indication.

and......

A little buggy? Absolutely unusable software. Tons of time getting presets established, you go to a different scene and then come back, and many of your presets are screwed up. Names have changed, presets for one pedal are suddenly showing up in a different pedal, parameters are changed.

Wow. Unless they've got a fix in the next 24hrs this thing is going back.

What a shame, because the thing had such amazing promise.

Completely unreliable, though. God forbid you get those horrid preset changes during a gig...
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i hadnt heard of any issues, but maybe i overlooked a massive thread- anyone having similar problemos or is everything groovy?


ty!

fro

The Wandering Madman

--Apple-Mail-12--193127060-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 08:19:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A61AB18348D; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D3D9A89.3010004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:19:10 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <64AC4725-1E45-4260-A8EC-57AB2BEA9106@1800dialword.com> <7258C967-018A-491C-BC85-3676212EFBC2@grubmah.com> <4D3D9A89.3010004@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:19:14 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:28 AM, andy butler wrote: > Mark Hamburg wrote: >=20 >> Time to go study the SM82 and the MultiMix 8. (I do like the way Andy = Butler >> looks at these things and casually says that it shouldn't be that = hard to add an insert...) >=20 > cheers Mark ;-) >=20 > Any electronic repair shop would be able to make the mod > for you. >=20 > Beware the 'Multimix 8 *Line*' is very different from the confusingly = named 'Multimix 8' Since people are bashing the Alesis's sound quality, what do you think = the viability is of modding a Rane SM82S so that the main expand path or = jacks could be turned into an insert? Thanks. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 08:27:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACA36183493; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:27:24 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <64AC4725-1E45-4260-A8EC-57AB2BEA9106@1800dialword.com> <7258C967-018A-491C-BC85-3676212EFBC2@grubmah.com> <4D3D9A89.3010004@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:27:28 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:19 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:28 AM, andy butler wrote: >=20 >> Mark Hamburg wrote: >>=20 >>> Time to go study the SM82 and the MultiMix 8. (I do like the way = Andy Butler >>> looks at these things and casually says that it shouldn't be that = hard to add an insert...) >>=20 >> cheers Mark ;-) >>=20 >> Any electronic repair shop would be able to make the mod >> for you. >>=20 >> Beware the 'Multimix 8 *Line*' is very different from the = confusingly named 'Multimix 8' >=20 > Since people are bashing the Alesis's sound quality, what do you think = the viability is of modding a Rane SM82S so that the main expand path or = jacks could be turned into an insert? Given Rane's statement that it's too tight inside to change the effects = to pre-fader, my first guess would be that this would be a no.... Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 09:06:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8217218347F; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 567939885/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.239/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.239 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRLv/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="567939885" Message-ID: <4D3E9295.8030307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:06:29 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stereo References: <8CD89FA8009AFCA-1F20-41657@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> <4D3DF2EF.3070300@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7Ca4VD.A.lYH.gKpPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:06:40 +0000 (UTC) I'll need 2 Louie Angulo wrote: > ill buy one too;-)) > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> I'm having my SISSIES FOR MONO t-shirt made up as we speak. >> I'm proud to be a sissy for mono. Who's with me? >> >> rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 10:42:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D6C2183454; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 567994088/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.239/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.239 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRLv/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="567994088" Message-ID: <4D3EA8E6.7060202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:41:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Trimming Down: Mixer options? References: <64AC4725-1E45-4260-A8EC-57AB2BEA9106@1800dialword.com> <7258C967-018A-491C-BC85-3676212EFBC2@grubmah.com> <4D3D9A89.3010004@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:28 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> Mark Hamburg wrote: >> >>> Time to go study the SM82 and the MultiMix 8. (I do like the way Andy Butler >>> looks at these things and casually says that it shouldn't be that hard to add an insert...) >> cheers Mark ;-) >> >> Any electronic repair shop would be able to make the mod >> for you. >> >> Beware the 'Multimix 8 *Line*' is very different from the confusingly named 'Multimix 8' > > Since people are bashing the Alesis's sound quality, By "ok for live" I just mean that I wouldn't use it for routing in a recording studio. I've played live with it without worries. I'm expecting to completely eradicate any hum using "humfrees", it's just the standard rack hum. >what do you think the viability is of modding a Rane SM82S so that the main expand path or jacks could be turned into an insert? Well, I spent a *lot* of time sussing out the Alesis circuitry. The Rane circuitry is arranged differently around the area where I'd hack an insert into the Alesis, it certainly doesn't offer the exact same simple fix. (here's the tech speak) I would use the Expand Out socket as an insert send. Then I'd sever the connection where the main bus goes to the main volume control. The Expand In socket would be used for the Insert Return, it goes to a simple buffer circuit the output of which would be re-routed to the main vol control. Without an fx (or patch lead )inserted the mixer wouldn't function at all. Note, the expand In/Out sockets are on single TRS jacks for a stereo signal. You could always get a quote to have the mod done on the Rane, as Rane have the schematic available online. andy > > Thanks. > Mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 10:43:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAA13183453; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D3EA945.8020101@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:43:17 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Singing and Looping was OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin References: <2882400052162534099@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <2882400052162534099@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:43:26 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > That's great Rick, I'm going to start singing today... You are > right... My fave singers have terrible voices traditionally.... > Beefheart, john Lydon, Malcolm mooney, the residents, nico, yoko, > Astrid Gilberto... None can really belt out in perfect pitch , but all > are KNOWN for their voices!!! Yeah, I can add Dylan, early Van Morrison, Robert Smith (who has really become a good singer over the years), Richard Butler (of the Psychedelic Furs), Tom Waits, Marianne Faithful and the list goes on and on. > Btw.. I'm gonna get this voice app for iPhone and do a kinda autotune > industrial distortion vocal.... Oooh, ooh, ooh, I want to hear that. What's the app? Also, I don't know if you ever heard the all acapella experimental voice record I put out in 2004, Faux Voix. You might enjoy it. there are examples of it at www.looppool.info I actually worked up the nerve to do about a year's worth of concerts where I only used human voice, a microphone, processing and my loopers. It scared me but I wanted to walk onstage without ideas in my head and create music with only voice. Forcing myself to do that (and boy, was it intimidating at first) really gave me a lot of courage to sing more. I've even bought a Behringer Feedback Eliminator so that I can process my voice through multiple distortion/fuzz pedals and constrain the feedback that always occurs when you do this live. I haven't really worked it out yet, but that's one of the projects I've wanted to have time to follow through with in this year of not touring or actively doing the looping festival. woohooo! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 10:43:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84416183460; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=u9bYr9s/t25F4oltopIxBqGDaaV+C+mgFMwAuXh0bf8=; b=t+BLKJ+4PakszWFA9dKOrcD5sgNlmT193BoZ6/qHfmpxcND3sCf+Ln68PzOIaJ63NA IEoPSpBasF2ENxUxFkJbU42gYpbloR80YuPQZGqEXPMeQfG8XJyvfm8vGth8/dcXuZkB PdQ5lJznGjLgBmK9HPpYNFNXHoMdmccSYNEv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=dYf7EgUUDUITTN5SVlQazCSIdkVtrRR/NFSL3i7+fJsgxkZm3NKAp04V3cQ/31C8hR sRuwGONfx9xfPxMHWMbiHiegvzdkDi4VVQ/0V5P3mAfoDLTNRK0GnFe1VNqle3R9N1cA coX534D1VM5k6rVq/sDIyjERkUS6q/E4JF2bY= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--182559600 Subject: Re: Soft Step - any software issues? Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:43:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:43:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--182559600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The zeppelin cover I just did with the softstep was in 'standalone mode' = so it was only connected with a midi cable to my audio interface in my = rig...... so it does not have to be connected to a computer. You use the = computer to downoad your preset 'scenes' and then you can unplug the = softstep and plug it in to anything that accepts midi. It does need = power though so as long as you can busk with a power strip your fine. = You have to purchase the midi expander as well as the softstep though if = you want this functionality.=20 FRO - As of the past 3 days with their latest beta updte, I have had no = issues looping at all with the softstep. There are a few issues with the = led lights but their tech support said they have already ironed those = out with the next update (official update to this beta) coming this = week. It's has a really small footprint so in that sense it will be = great for travel. The footswitches are way different though than = anything I had tried before so its something you can practice and learn = to adapt to or hate it because it's not what your used to.... They have = a 30 day return policy so I think it's worth trying it out. I love it = now personally. -Todd Matthews On Jan 25, 2011, at 2:47 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Fro, for what its worth, I talked to them at namm and they said all = those issues are ironed out, but you know what else they gonna say. = Pretty sure it has to have a computer to run so busking? >=20 > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! >=20 >=20 > On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:00 AM, "FRO DIDDLY" = wrote: >=20 >> howdy loopies, >>=20 >> i was just about to purchase the soft step through amazon for my = "busking" rig, but noticed these 2 reviews, both within the last 2 = weeks- >>=20 >> ---------------------- >>=20 >> The Max5 based software still a little buggy (as of Jan-2011, V.1.03) = and could be better, and hopefully will be soon if the quality of the = pedal is any indication.=20 >>=20 >> and...... >>=20 >> A little buggy? Absolutely unusable software. Tons of time getting = presets established, you go to a different scene and then come back, and = many of your presets are screwed up. Names have changed, presets for one = pedal are suddenly showing up in a different pedal, parameters are = changed.=20 >>=20 >> Wow. Unless they've got a fix in the next 24hrs this thing is going = back.=20 >>=20 >> What a shame, because the thing had such amazing promise.=20 >>=20 >> Completely unreliable, though. God forbid you get those horrid preset = changes during a gig...=20 >> ---------------------- >>=20 >> i hadnt heard of any issues, but maybe i overlooked a massive thread- = anyone having similar problemos or is everything groovy? >>=20 >>=20 >> ty! >>=20 >> fro >>=20 >> The Wandering Madman=20 >>=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com --Apple-Mail-2--182559600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii The = zeppelin cover I just did with the softstep was in 'standalone mode' so = it was only connected with a midi cable to my audio interface in my = rig...... so it does not have to be connected to a computer. You use the = computer to downoad your preset 'scenes' and then you can unplug the = softstep and plug it in to anything that accepts midi. It does need = power though so as long as you can busk with a power strip your fine. = You have to purchase the midi expander as well as the softstep though if = you want this functionality. 

FRO - As of the = past 3 days with their latest beta updte, I have had no issues looping = at all with the softstep. There are a few issues with the led lights but = their tech support said they have already ironed those out with the next = update (official update to this beta) coming this week. It's has a = really small footprint so in that sense it will be great for travel. The = footswitches are way different though than anything I had tried before = so its something you can practice and learn to adapt to or hate it = because it's not what your used to....  They have a 30 day return = policy so I think it's worth trying it out. I love it now = personally.

-Todd = Matthews

On Jan 25, 2011, at 2:47 AM, = Andy Owens wrote:

Fro, for what its worth, I = talked to them at namm and they said all those issues are ironed out, = but you know what else they gonna say. Pretty sure it has to have a = computer to run so busking?

Andy = Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the = typing might not be my best!


On = Jan 25, 2011, at 1:00 AM, "FRO DIDDLY" <parispro00@hotmail.com> = wrote:

howdy loopies,

i was just about to purchase the soft step through = amazon for my "busking" rig, but noticed these 2 reviews, both within = the last 2 weeks-

----------------------

The Max5 based = software still a little buggy (as of Jan-2011, =20 V.1.03) and could be better, and hopefully will be soon if the quality=20= of the pedal is any indication.

and......

A little buggy? Absolutely unusable = software. Tons of time getting=20 presets established, you go to a different scene and then come back, and many of your presets are screwed up. Names have changed, presets for=20= one pedal are suddenly showing up in a different pedal, parameters are=20= changed.

Wow. Unless they've got a fix in the next 24hrs this thing is going = back.

What a shame, because the thing had such amazing promise.

Completely unreliable, though. God forbid you get those horrid = preset changes during a gig...
----------------------

i hadnt heard of any issues, but = maybe i overlooked a massive thread- anyone having similar problemos or = is everything groovy?


ty!

fro

The Wandering Madman

=20


= --Apple-Mail-2--182559600-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 11:03:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3795018345B; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=dbOe+T5oBXKz8SUQSg/3lfGLUl3jiZPh2Ru8ZoOfGPw=; b=J19WHSJmCaP4RG1Y1GTJ+7eAuP1sptusjItbK52RoOGCAVFoIyu/L44i2Jxz7Zyigf wSCdKPKV83Mekk4MKjtDnDoygnIaa4Eu+pRktDXlEU+uUivUzFd3OH5ygIBz78IOHc8A Luj+dIs0JlLvLegMb+Qm8NAIRFelvExEr1kUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=qY5mUHy3cym7mBs6bdINB5ALW+CY1BKeCxuNd8DKLu9QFM7uGecpKeaGpKcLHTtNAv B8gaKqTt46QjNaIxSXulhqiMOPcn2S4bQiCA2hm7nnZvpQm2I52TMAfzgTB3AN70W/l8 7huAB3P1jeliLAINWay/pFXbiv/x363anvH8A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:03:36 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vVn8qiJBKsGplohipRIBcE0Ima8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step - any software issues? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305496bb390c33049aa9ac00 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:03:57 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305496bb390c33049aa9ac00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im glad to hear that the software looks like it is being ironed out... I knda guessed that it would be. I however was not happy with the feel of the switches and finally sent mine back. I was surprised to find that I actually NEED a little click. I was getting misfires the whole time.. In Todds video however, he seems to have some light and responsive touch that I NEVER got on mine. Maybe I actually had a dodgy bit of hardware too? I think its a very cool pedal, but was Waaaaaaaaaaaay too fussy for me... I need "stompability" Mark On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > The zeppelin cover I just did with the softstep was in 'standalone mode' so > it was only connected with a midi cable to my audio interface in my > rig...... so it does not have to be connected to a computer. You use the > computer to downoad your preset 'scenes' and then you can unplug the > softstep and plug it in to anything that accepts midi. It does need power > though so as long as you can busk with a power strip your fine. You have to > purchase the midi expander as well as the softstep though if you want this > functionality. > > FRO - As of the past 3 days with their latest beta updte, I have had no > issues looping at all with the softstep. There are a few issues with the led > lights but their tech support said they have already ironed those out with > the next update (official update to this beta) coming this week. It's has a > really small footprint so in that sense it will be great for travel. The > footswitches are way different though than anything I had tried before so > its something you can practice and learn to adapt to or hate it because it's > not what your used to.... They have a 30 day return policy so I think it's > worth trying it out. I love it now personally. > > -Todd Matthews > > On Jan 25, 2011, at 2:47 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > > Fro, for what its worth, I talked to them at namm and they said all those > issues are ironed out, but you know what else they gonna say. Pretty sure it > has to have a computer to run so busking? > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:00 AM, "FRO DIDDLY" wrote: > > howdy loopies, > > i was just about to purchase the soft step through amazon for my "busking" > rig, but noticed these 2 reviews, both within the last 2 weeks- > > ---------------------- > > The Max5 based software still a little buggy (as of Jan-2011, V.1.03) and > could be better, and hopefully will be soon if the quality of the pedal is > any indication. > > and...... > > A little buggy? Absolutely unusable software. Tons of time getting presets > established, you go to a different scene and then come back, and many of > your presets are screwed up. Names have changed, presets for one pedal are > suddenly showing up in a different pedal, parameters are changed. > > Wow. Unless they've got a fix in the next 24hrs this thing is going back. > > What a shame, because the thing had such amazing promise. > > Completely unreliable, though. God forbid you get those horrid preset > changes during a gig... > ---------------------- > > i hadnt heard of any issues, but maybe i overlooked a massive thread- > anyone having similar problemos or is everything groovy? > > > ty! > > fro > > The Wandering Madman > > > Todd Matthews > http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com > > > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305496bb390c33049aa9ac00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im glad to hear that the software looks like it is being ironed out... I kn= da guessed that it would be. I however was not happy with the feel of the s= witches and finally sent=A0 mine back. I was surprised to find that I actua= lly NEED a little click. I was getting misfires the whole time.. In Todds v= ideo however, he seems to have some light and responsive touch that I NEVER= got on mine. Maybe I actually had a dodgy bit of hardware too?

I think its a very cool pedal, but was Waaaaaaaaaaaay too fussy for me.= .. I need "stompability"


Mark


On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
The zeppelin cover I just did with the softstep was in= 'standalone mode' so it was only connected with a midi cable to my= audio interface in my rig...... so it does not have to be connected to a c= omputer. You use the computer to downoad your preset 'scenes' and t= hen you can unplug the softstep and plug it in to anything that accepts mid= i. It does need power though so as long as you can busk with a power strip = your fine. You have to purchase the midi expander as well as the softstep t= hough if you want this functionality.=A0

FRO - As of the past 3 days with their latest beta updte, I = have had no issues looping at all with the softstep. There are a few issues= with the led lights but their tech support said they have already ironed t= hose out with the next update (official update to this beta) coming this we= ek. It's has a really small footprint so in that sense it will be great= for travel. The footswitches are way different though than anything I had = tried before so its something you can practice and learn to adapt to or hat= e it because it's not what your used to.... =A0They have a 30 day retur= n policy so I think it's worth trying it out. I love it now personally.=

-Todd Matthews

On Jan 25, 2011, at 2:47 AM, Andy Owens wrote:=

Fro, for = what its worth, I talked to them at namm and they said all those issues are= ironed out, but you know what else they gonna say. Pretty sure it has to h= ave a computer to run so busking?

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the= typing might not be my best!


On J= an 25, 2011, at 1:00 AM, "FRO DIDDLY" <parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:<= br>
howdy loopies,

i was just about to purchase the soft step through am= azon for my "busking" rig, but noticed these 2 reviews, both with= in the last 2 weeks-

----------------------

The Max5 based so= ftware still a little buggy (as of Jan-2011, =20 V.1.03) and could be better, and hopefully will be soon if the quality=20 of the pedal is any indication.

and......

A little buggy? Absolutely unusable softwar= e. Tons of time getting=20 presets established, you go to a different scene and then come back, and many of your presets are screwed up. Names have changed, presets for=20 one pedal are suddenly showing up in a different pedal, parameters are=20 changed.

Wow. Unless they've got a fix in the next 24hrs this thing is goin= g back.

What a shame, because the thing had such amazing promise.

Completely unreliable, though. God forbid you get those horrid preset = changes during a gig...
----------------------

i hadnt heard of any issues, but ma= ybe i overlooked a massive thread- anyone having similar problemos or is ev= erything groovy?


ty!

fro

The= Wandering Madman

=20

Todd Matthews

<= /div>





--
= mark francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe
http://vi= meo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.= no
--20cf305496bb390c33049aa9ac00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 11:06:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52DA218345C; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3ff82773-99ee-4600-ab02-525941131ab0_" X-Originating-IP: [72.161.88.201] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: Soft Step - any software issues? Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:06:37 -0600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2011 11:06:37.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFC7FA80:01CBBC7F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:06:38 +0000 (UTC) --_3ff82773-99ee-4600-ab02-525941131ab0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the reply guys- and congrats on the zepplin cover! Kashmir was the very first song i starte= d looping and 3 yrs later im still working on it..... puurrrdy close though= =3Bo) ill be using a laptop so no worries there...and ty for the personal recent = update- that calms me a bit- I love it because its bus powered & has an expression pedal input. im not a= ware of any other pedal with those simple requirements=2C if anyone knows o= f an alternative please let me know as i found diddly squat. Im imagining the pedals to feel a bit foreign=2C but i simply hope they giv= e good physical feedback of a proper button press. thank you again! The Wandering Madman=20 From: gtmatthews@gmail.com Subject: Re: Soft Step - any software issues? Date: Tue=2C 25 Jan 2011 05:43:40 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com The zeppelin cover I just did with the softstep was in 'standalone mode' so= it was only connected with a midi cable to my audio interface in my rig...= ... so it does not have to be connected to a computer. You use the computer= to downoad your preset 'scenes' and then you can unplug the softstep and p= lug it in to anything that accepts midi. It does need power though so as lo= ng as you can busk with a power strip your fine. You have to purchase the m= idi expander as well as the softstep though if you want this functionality.= =20 FRO - As of the past 3 days with their latest beta updte=2C I have had no i= ssues looping at all with the softstep. There are a few issues with the led= lights but their tech support said they have already ironed those out with= the next update (official update to this beta) coming this week. It's has = a really small footprint so in that sense it will be great for travel. The = footswitches are way different though than anything I had tried before so i= ts something you can practice and learn to adapt to or hate it because it's= not what your used to.... They have a 30 day return policy so I think it'= s worth trying it out. I love it now personally. -Todd Matthews On Jan 25=2C 2011=2C at 2:47 AM=2C Andy Owens wrote:Fro=2C for what its wor= th=2C I talked to them at namm and they said all those issues are ironed ou= t=2C but you know what else they gonna say. Pretty sure it has to have a co= mputer to run so busking? Andy Owens1-800-AndyOwensSent from my iPhoneSo the typing might not be my b= est! On Jan 25=2C 2011=2C at 1:00 AM=2C "FRO DIDDLY" wr= ote: howdy loopies=2C i was just about to purchase the soft step through amazon for my "busking" = rig=2C but noticed these 2 reviews=2C both within the last 2 weeks- ---------------------- The Max5 based software still a little buggy (as of Jan-2011=2C =20 V.1.03) and could be better=2C and hopefully will be soon if the quality=20 of the pedal is any indication. =20 and...... A little buggy? Absolutely unusable software. Tons of time getting=20 presets established=2C you go to a different scene and then come back=2C an= d many of your presets are screwed up. Names have changed=2C presets for=20 one pedal are suddenly showing up in a different pedal=2C parameters are=20 changed. Wow. Unless they've got a fix in the next 24hrs this thing is going back. What a shame=2C because the thing had such amazing promise. Completely unreliable=2C though. God forbid you get those horrid preset ch= anges during a gig... =20 ---------------------- i hadnt heard of any issues=2C but maybe i overlooked a massive thread- any= one having similar problemos or is everything groovy? ty! fro The Wandering Madman=20 =20 Todd Matthewshttp://www.joshuasteelemusic.com = --_3ff82773-99ee-4600-ab02-525941131ab0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the reply guys-

and congrats on the zepplin cover! Kashmi= r was the very first song i started looping and 3 yrs later im still workin= g on it..... puurrrdy close though =3Bo)

ill be using a laptop so no= worries there...and ty for the personal recent update- that calms me a bit= -

I love it because its bus powered &=3B has an expression pedal = input. im not aware of any other pedal with those simple requirements=2C if= anyone knows of an alternative please let me know as i found diddly squat.=

Im imagining the pedals to feel a bit foreign=2C but i simply hope = they give good physical feedback of a proper button press.

thank you= again!

The= Wandering Madman



From: gtmatthews@gmail.com
Subje= ct: Re: Soft Step - any software issues?
Date: Tue=2C 25 Jan 2011 05:43:= 40 -0500
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

The zeppelin cover = I just did with the softstep was in 'standalone mode' so it was only connec= ted with a midi cable to my audio interface in my rig...... so it does not = have to be connected to a computer. You use the computer to downoad your pr= eset 'scenes' and then you can unplug the softstep and plug it in to anythi= ng that accepts midi. It does need power though so as long as you can busk = with a power strip your fine. You have to purchase the midi expander as wel= l as the softstep though if you want this functionality. =3B

FRO - As of the past 3 days with their latest beta updte=2C I have= had no issues looping at all with the softstep. There are a few issues wit= h the led lights but their tech support said they have already ironed those= out with the next update (official update to this beta) coming this week. = It's has a really small footprint so in that sense it will be great for tra= vel. The footswitches are way different though than anything I had tried be= fore so its something you can practice and learn to adapt to or hate it bec= ause it's not what your used to....  =3BThey have a 30 day return polic= y so I think it's worth trying it out. I love it now personally.
=
-Todd Matthews

On Jan 25= =2C 2011=2C at 2:47 AM=2C Andy Owens wrote:

Fro=2C for what its worth=2C I talke= d to them at namm and they said all those issues are ironed out=2C but you = know what else they gonna say. Pretty sure it has to have a computer to run= so busking?

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my i= Phone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 25=2C 2011=2C at 1:00 AM=2C "FRO DIDDLY" <=3Bparispro00@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:<= br>
howdy loopies=2C

i was just about to purchase the soft step through = amazon for my "busking" rig=2C but noticed these 2 reviews=2C both within t= he last 2 weeks-

----------------------

The Max5 based softwa= re still a little buggy (as of Jan-2011=2C =20 V.1.03) and could be better=2C and hopefully will be soon if the quality=20 of the pedal is any indication.

and......

A little buggy? Absolutely unusable softwar= e. Tons of time getting=20 presets established=2C you go to a different scene and then come back=2C an= d many of your presets are screwed up. Names have changed=2C presets for=20 one pedal are suddenly showing up in a different pedal=2C parameters are=20 changed.

Wow. Unless they've got a fix in the next 24hrs this thing is going ba= ck.

What a shame=2C because the thing had such amazing promise.

Completely unreliable=2C though. God forbid you get those horrid prese= t changes during a gig...
----------------------

i hadnt heard of any issues=2C but = maybe i overlooked a massive thread- anyone having similar problemos or is = everything groovy?


ty!

fro

The= Wandering Madman

=20


= --_3ff82773-99ee-4600-ab02-525941131ab0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 11:45:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 576FF18345C; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=eCt55c6ku1GOGBSXClVPQXWcnZmoMwSXGlPy2EX4uPQ=; b=Qx60J+Em5m50yv3p0x5ko06BAuINZKUhbs75chF0SKvsdSyc3v9jAoLAa+fr+Xi4M3 8w6wYJotOzxzuKSvcghrOepaLG5cqmzDLhip/chodAFfOGxf6sEtuf9n5RBq3wFIgmd+ huPDxVFW1+VE8za2bloj0IxBCSFgBMjzUhC/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=l6pntfWBKHifxay+ygwAqiOcWQeDIeAl2h90VisCMUWcOIuSKVB3XsgS/DsgfjSlDv 78R1Orv96OOYAwXhCRbLtur1EMTuANK5F8e5CdVJnhxI1u5ZM0A/1NulI3Y64ssmtoq/ sz9WTtsGKv7PalQev3UmVtJACKKCmQO0OYr08= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:45:28 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wgGUkKSGQXzWI-2o8RDD8L3gKbY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step - any software issues? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ab3bf09109049aaa41af Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:45:49 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ab3bf09109049aaa41af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:06 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > but i simply hope they give good physical feedback of a proper button > press. that was my point, that for me.. they dont... I was even considering building a midi powered clicky thing to transmit a "bump" to the unit when I pressed... it was easier to send it back... I suppose the price of a Gordius is prohibitive for you as it is for me? Cos thats my dream buy now... -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054ab3bf09109049aaa41af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:06 PM, FRO DI= DDLY <parisp= ro00@hotmail.com> wrote:
but i simply hope they give good physical feedback of a proper button press= .

that was my point, that for me.. they dont... I was= even considering building a midi powered clicky thing to transmit a "= bump" to the unit when I pressed... it was easier to send it back...
I suppose the price of a Gordius is prohibitive for you as it is for me= ? Cos thats my dream buy now...

--
mark francombe<= br>www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vi= meo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.= no
--20cf3054ab3bf09109049aaa41af-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 12:29:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D43AD18345B; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=D6Yq00Ej7Ef9ya5YQ6uov3o+6RLhScfDK6+128htcvE=; b=usIeiDnN/aDGzUV4AxQiP/WM6pu5lvUv+/CwmR0Nw5iTYcr81CdYd5aeHWQNj4hNd6 9DeUF2qKxEBe11GXOINzbVmpeV/HspEExEU/QEFnS74lhEDyoQbw4FHAIVdf5sW9Cewn 9rImsGNBYDjrrky3oxNc4YD23ldfKleNMPkeg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=erFR8mTU7ww6hGqyG10p2T6uVsBeRvGVISUzYGWvfweijKm2sFoi8IL+OfSsa7lJeL l9Kusymq/8Bth8YjBJ4rcC52NAqaBRIubTz5vcQo84p89NSWRTy9ilyEpb5wBIRixbxr HVsLKoRsj6Eq+I7996b5JnvwbFs3Sd1ZzNKAg= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Soft Step - any software issues? From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:29:09 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7C22490A-C02F-4B08-887B-D513D79D8C03@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Yeah the led lights up, and I programmed the 4 character display to show = my Mobius functions, rec, ovdb, mult, etc. so if there was any doubt in = my mind that I stomped it then I get that visual feedback to reassure = me. It does take a bit of getting used to since I was also used to more = of a tactile feedback. I also press the keys towards a corner (thats = where the sensors are). At first I was stomping in the middle of the pad = like a regular switch and I wasnt having much success. Now I don't have = any problems firing off commands but I still need to get used to the = layout and size of the whole unit cause its so small. I sometimes hit = the wrong key but I did the same thing with fcb1010 when I first got it. = I consider that user error. -Todd Matthews On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:03 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Im glad to hear that the software looks like it is being ironed out... = I knda guessed that it would be. I however was not happy with the feel = of the switches and finally sent mine back. I was surprised to find = that I actually NEED a little click. I was getting misfires the whole = time.. In Todds video however, he seems to have some light and = responsive touch that I NEVER got on mine. Maybe I actually had a dodgy = bit of hardware too? >=20 > I think its a very cool pedal, but was Waaaaaaaaaaaay too fussy for = me... I need "stompability" >=20 >=20 > Mark >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 12:33:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9EA018345D; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=6ZRV/MbQpDS5CFjp9G5BVJwC9pqiOCzSyt/a5hKFV2M=; b=P2uRa6ws+TkoayGMrUhBd9NE8TIUp0s3w0hfOEhiIjSQHYyor0ig/kWjn9NpNGsoRB fMFwaMoejARPt5kiqz4VDgAQNELcEMT0WikhDON+YW33pzlPwHHS5vcEO3xzFXEkG7he +8EwjVHD/+UjolrmVcExQopPbwgMy5W60LrSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=jfHVtq1z518UyXkyql3tWwSvqMjZrxR3c0TThiUdBBGEQilevkp72GAM5kYnEL2PUT C0zyD9HkbBGLWuMQkr/PsCLyg+JnF7+r4XIrXU4SV9Efblj753tUCIA8gmA/RmCKha3N UpkFSu2Xfe2p9YIAZM1xuM8SZEXB15wNujlwE= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--175973664 Subject: Re: Soft Step - any software issues? Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:33:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: , Message-Id: <7E29347C-DC26-457E-A49E-A7770A224A66@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:33:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--175973664 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The downsides right to using the softstep with the software alongside it = are that it takes up a chunk of memory so if you use lots of samples it = might not be the right fit. In standalone mode your not using the = software so it doesnt take up any memory. As for the buttons I can feel the pedal mash down but there isnt = physical feedback other than that so you might be let down. I still = think its worth a giving it a proper try since it meets your other = requirements. -Todd On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:06 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > Thanks for the reply guys- >=20 > and congrats on the zepplin cover! Kashmir was the very first song i = started looping and 3 yrs later im still working on it..... puurrrdy = close though ;o) >=20 > ill be using a laptop so no worries there...and ty for the personal = recent update- that calms me a bit- >=20 > I love it because its bus powered & has an expression pedal input. im = not aware of any other pedal with those simple requirements, if anyone = knows of an alternative please let me know as i found diddly squat. >=20 > Im imagining the pedals to feel a bit foreign, but i simply hope they = give good physical feedback of a proper button press. >=20 > thank you again! >=20 > The Wandering Madman=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--175973664 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii The downsides right to using the softstep with the = software alongside it are that it takes up a chunk of memory so if you = use lots of samples it might not be the right fit. In standalone mode = your not using the software so it doesnt take up any = memory.

As for the buttons I can feel the pedal mash = down but there isnt physical feedback other than that so you might be = let down. I still think its worth a giving it a proper try since it = meets your other = requirements.

-Todd

On = Jan 25, 2011, at 6:06 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrote:

The = Wandering Madman 


= --Apple-Mail-1--175973664-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 12:57:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EE2F183453; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WlM1ykJlYCFLL8Me5FwVJv+sL/H6qpw5zjpXUyg280M=; b=OZ1IVZiHUquuj/BW31ky0ZLdJkjdYgPm6eUPTaJi/exnr3Lpc5ICCrD5BMm3xWD2hF 4ZjV+Gibo0a5w9IZEUWaNHTGeO4n+eD4RiDzGfzjcv57mNCeKXZJwiGctD0+DYhlaE8W Tw0E4VCX0IwUmj5k9eRokeMeOA7UV4HRHg7EU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=g8W78wgN/cI06jEjuprA20nqp4VZeQTK574ly82POwbEog8n0XTt5ZM5q2Y5tMA1wj S1+mUchLEuuMjHJhVUGptxyoH6y5djTZ4odSm+/McFHK52boqdGWEwCqclcseGswf+md Cd1k8/9U271PcI+stuizSD7ls7BEsDI3zYmtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9F371F8D-B559-4881-B253-7CDA8D950587@zoekeating.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the POK wireless footcontroller From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:57:00 +0000 (UTC) looks like a POS. ha. - jim On Monday, January 24, 2011, Louie Angulo wro= te: > wow and quite expensive just for that! > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: >> i investigated it a while back but rejected it because you can't make it >> send midi. my understanding is that its just a wireless keyboard for you= r >> feet. >> >> On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: >> >>> well here is something cool >>> >>> http://www.xtempozone.com/ >>> >>> here is a gal using it,seems well suited for Ableton: >>> >>> Ableton Live for Live Performances - Recording=A0 >>> >>> anybody has any experiences with it? i dont think it has been mentioned >>> here >>> cheers >>> Luis >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 14:24:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CC1218345B; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=H+aW2W/CeEwlAN3jsYKe3/178XWAOM5pu6Q7LPz99Qs=; b=Jg6LaDixMOiLazmiTNlvzCtxWmgwaoFE1SbgFBQkzIz8PQ9pNSkWqK86mxbh+D+g0J B4ZXJ8Vy7B3WWKu6+26dXO3B7Fe+RQFbc7y+53QFdmHDsr4r/syZ9l/RcApduFGaFPnY EqIQN8rXTifBE9bzicSP2504ld9vxxa8eEhcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sNygPLkMOvcYEfCUBYTK17ZH693EqYs2wXzPUeOpQAWg3yq5iyqSE57haQYcZgm31i ZzpbEafMC0jdrED67pHmLbLO3tGpexgpUPa1ZMOvzN6YUXFGJxhPRkSnMR0gr14AIbFe woJdP+6mewVsnyG2OuLndPDAvTJsIS2Y0CKb0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7E29347C-DC26-457E-A49E-A7770A224A66@gmail.com> References: <7E29347C-DC26-457E-A49E-A7770A224A66@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:24:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step - any software issues? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:24:50 +0000 (UTC) it such ashame really,what finally made me send it back was the static noise when using it with the USB cable,it was so loud it was getting recorded in the loops! apparently it was from the led lighting ,mine was crashing all the time as well,i had to reboot often,my Imac would recognize it but then my laptop wouldnt,preset naming would get wiped out, etc. i spent so much time trying patiently to work with it but there were just too many issues. But i can imagine as a stand alone you probably wont have those problems but for me it defeats the purpose ,thats also one of the reasons i had bought it. Having to press carefully the corners of the pedals was not a solution for me either,i was stepping on the pedal next to it too often. The other thing that bother me is that when you program the pedal functions is hard to know in what bank you are in.But i suppose there could be a work around to that. An almost 400.00dlls pedal (with expander) with such problems was not much of a bargain.,specially If reliability gets in the way of making music. But ill be watching it anyway,i did like the concept and its small size and Sarah was always very helpful. Luis On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > The downsides right to using the softstep with the software alongside it are > that it takes up a chunk of memory so if you use lots of samples it might > not be the right fit. In standalone mode your not using the software so it > doesnt take up any memory. > As for the buttons I can feel the pedal mash down but there isnt physical > feedback other than that so you might be let down. I still think its worth a > giving it a proper try since it meets your other requirements. > -Todd > On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:06 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > > Thanks for the reply guys- > > and congrats on the zepplin cover! Kashmir was the very first song i started > looping and 3 yrs later im still working on it..... puurrrdy close though > ;o) > > ill be using a laptop so no worries there...and ty for the personal recent > update- that calms me a bit- > > I love it because its bus powered & has an expression pedal input. im not > aware of any other pedal with those simple requirements, if anyone knows of > an alternative please let me know as i found diddly squat. > > Im imagining the pedals to feel a bit foreign, but i simply hope they give > good physical feedback of a proper button press. > > thank you again! > > The Wandering Madman > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 14:33:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43311183453; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rtEgXOTRp+4H1to4+2HnG4+oiwAUXXAVrGzQqV14qeU=; b=cNnPkLYaynFdWmPzWMlYVXaeT7qQKgTRsLpsu0SZmM1hnSqHv9tcqf3Wq7QRJGxusO Wo2DPCzhjE8F+uZggG92qcvefxfo+/8tUM+VfdNKAtuD0uZKLJUmw92RgkuUYJl0RvJq VtefBpPo6MLK/cU9iKgObXQkGKHR6T+v6OYzg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AWEOtqr1yXJ43iyVkoUCef1XdDIVJEO4F3UU2vGSDZWMSmrR3bbitl9qMFbF7ttfCQ RcY0kfwM/RxhZ3P0q7EErKCRE7UeSMLymoBnji3nv9VLoFE6FNWaK+NaiPO1ECK3b7nd Oj/cYi4gF1nzhJg4V5yoMsYpjHJD3IRzjH4Z8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3EA945.8020101@cruzio.com> References: <2882400052162534099@unknownmsgid> <4D3EA945.8020101@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:33:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Singing and Looping was OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3JZnW.A.lVH.n8tPNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:33:12 +0000 (UTC) i was the guitar player who was forced by my brother who plays bass to take the singer roll in our band because we could find one i said no way i cant sing and the he said, "dont give that shit you got no excuse,if Dylan and Lou Reed did it then you can too" thats the beauty of rock n roll;-) Luis On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> >> That's great Rick, I'm going to start singing today... You are >> right... My fave singers have terrible voices traditionally.... >> Beefheart, john Lydon, Malcolm mooney, the residents, nico, yoko, >> Astrid Gilberto... None can really belt out in perfect pitch , but all >> are KNOWN for their voices!!! > > Yeah, =A0I can add Dylan, =A0early Van Morrison, =A0Robert Smith (who has= really > become a good > singer over the years), Richard Butler (of the Psychedelic Furs), Tom Wai= ts, > Marianne Faithful and the list goes on and on. >> >> Btw.. I'm gonna get this voice app for iPhone and do a kinda autotune >> industrial distortion vocal.... > > Oooh, ooh, ooh, =A0I want to hear that. =A0What's the app? > > Also, I don't know if you ever heard the all acapella > experimental voice record I put out in 2004, =A0Faux Voix. =A0 =A0You mig= ht enjoy > it. > there are examples of it at www.looppool.info =A0 =A0 =A0 I actually work= ed up the > nerve to > do about a year's worth of concerts where I only used human voice, a > microphone, processing and > my loopers. =A0 =A0It scared me but I wanted to walk onstage without idea= s in my > head and create music > with only voice. =A0 =A0Forcing myself to do that (and boy, was it intimi= dating > at first) really gave me > a lot of courage to sing more. > I've even bought a Behringer Feedback Eliminator so that I can process my > voice through multiple > distortion/fuzz pedals and constrain the feedback that always occurs when > you do this live. > I haven't really worked it out yet, but that's one of the projects I've > wanted to have time to > follow through with in this year of not touring or actively doing the > looping festival. =A0 woohooo! > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 14:37:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BC4E18345F; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zxuGykBTFd8rTR1PnVhVafhSAPwFpFFStR+YCd9g9tU=; b=Yjjm4NT43bh5aOhWrJDVjjYB0ijcJdoaeT+Dk2BTo8Ug44LQDgRrhPGRJyGilAn9+o Q6i7JRu+eL1/PVdGAc14p5wQJAnVK5ZgAzmQy4pyYgUkGD0w6hj/1N0bTotWQ/DC9xHj nwNFYwxwQTJTPzmRDplGDNVYPYOVO6L/zVkv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=da2H1t+Q4iLFK2Nit1Y2AtDwfsUnaDfl5QaQzpIHR7i0VjRdV0jQaMMoco0dhwZl9g GFXc/1RmRti2doozMBDATRzcsF84wEry+BhTAoEGImT1Orw9O/yqn/TN13xON8Ln8qLa CrLYGqs9Y/C8nO53ORUsnCdZ1HP+S4Izp3Niw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3E9295.8030307@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8CD89FA8009AFCA-1F20-41657@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> <4D3DF2EF.3070300@cruzio.com> <4D3E9295.8030307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:37:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: stereo From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:37:20 +0000 (UTC) > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm having my SISSIES FOR MONO t-shirt made up as we speak. > I'm proud to be a sissy for mono. >Who's with me? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:06 AM, andy butler wrote: > I'll need 2 > Louie Angulo wrote: > ill buy one too;-)) so thats that make us machos for stereo...? who started this anyway? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 15:48:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CFE0183461; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=r3UQ5gMMt+xi+bIHAFY/cUe7PTWUYXWYMl52RHnXPFM=; b=w1bB3ndi1nYrhG19scKXMvQQSMy8WQwOQCr/DQhdj6DJI4NYmGORRwhCVq+UzXCcxq usSwKqkO4Yo8P/uYFXO4ECzSyqO7dzuCGIwF9HvN4yBQBXxa5XtnTEdmftlhPg1tJjyC VyWnWZebEr3bUMhE4FXcuXTN/SPZpSJwGXqLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jbCD6WpvZfjHXZyh3BBpLdGPxnyXF9NGmN8uArHdWHuxi4fO1JXghEoC+rW3ejmmYH bAcR/sAn/7EgtffBbPpbeY1zyZmHGV665Pqaq9jk8zrLauLPqNUflfmlRNDu3c+rlR2g aLVL8YvIXiZyLTJTxLgsWfu5bRcfMjI3J4BVA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:48:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set From: Thomas Wegmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: David Gans , "RICK WALKER- 412 Darwin Street (back house)" , "Y2KXloopfest@yahoo.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630fa2bafad52049aada448 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:48:10 +0000 (UTC) --00163630fa2bafad52049aada448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks guys for the information, I have ordered, this looks like my kind of pedal! I hope all of you are doing well! Weg On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans wrote: > >> Where can I see more info on the LP2? >> > http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=LP2 > > > LP-2 Mini Looper > > FEATURE SET: > > Double stomp box size > AC: 9v battery or Wall Wart 9v 200ma, tip negative power supply > Onboard storage of up to 8 loops on SD card > Audio: Mono in and Mono out Fidelity: 16bit, 44.1khz > 30 levels of Undo > Feedback control (via additional expression pedal jack on back) > LED input VU meter > Input and Output volume control > Four multi functional foot controlled buttons which control > 1) RECORD/OVERDUB/UNDO > 2) PLAY/STOP > 3) EFFECT ONE, either: > a) Continue (whereever a loop was stopped) > b) ReTrigger (Continuous) > c) 1/2 Speed > d) Replace > e) Q replace 1/8th notes > f) Q replace 1/12 (triplet 8ths) > g) Q replace 1/7 (7/8) > h) Q replace 1/10 (5/8 or 5/4) > 4) EFFECT TWO, either: > a) ReTrigger (One Shot - Sample) > b) ReTrigger (Random) > c) 1/4 Speed > d) Reverse > e) Q replace 1/16th notes > f) Q replace 1/24 (triplet 16th notes) > g) Q replace 1/9 (9/8) > h) Q replace 1/64 (Glitch mode) > > Street Price: $300 (10% discount if pre-ordered before March 1st > release) > Order from Bob Amstadt bob@looperlative.com > > > -- Greg Wegmann TheWeg@Verizon.net TheWeg@GMail.com --00163630fa2bafad52049aada448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks guys for the information, I have ordered, this looks like my ki= nd of pedal!=A0 I hope all of you are doing well!
=A0
Weg

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.c= om> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans = wrote:
Where can I see more info on the= LP2?
http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?p= rod=3DLP2


LP-2 =A0Mini Looper

FEATURE SET:

Double stomp box siz= e
AC: =A09v battery or Wall Wart 9v 200ma, tip negative power supply
= Onboard storage of up to 8 loops on SD card
Audio: Mono in and Mono out = =A0 =A0 Fidelity: =A0 16bit, 44.1khz
30 levels of Undo
Feedback control (via additional expression pedal jack= on back)
LED input VU meter
Input and Output volume control
Four = multi functional foot controlled buttons which control
1) =A0 RECORD/OVE= RDUB/UNDO
2) =A0 PLAY/STOP
3) =A0 EFFECT ONE, either:
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a) Continu= e =A0(whereever a loop was stopped)
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0b) ReTrigger (Continu= ous)
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0c) 1/2 Speed
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0d) Replace
=A0 =A0= =A0 =A0e) Q replace =A01/8th notes
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0f) =A0Q replace =A01/= 12 (triplet 8ths)
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0g) Q replace =A01/7 (7/8)
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0h) Q replace =A0= 1/10 (5/8 or 5/4)
4) =A0EFFECT TWO, =A0either:
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a) ReT= rigger (One Shot - Sample)
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0b) ReTrigger (Random)
=A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0c) 1/4 Speed
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0d) Reverse
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0e) Q replace 1/16th notes
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0f) Q replace 1/2= 4 (triplet 16th notes)
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0g) Q replace 1/9 (9/8)
=A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0h) Q replace =A01/64 (Glitch mode)

Street Price: =A0 $300 =A0= (10% discount if pre-ordered before March 1st release)
Order from Bob Amstadt =A0 =A0 bob@looperlative.com




--
Greg Wegmann

TheWeg@Verizon.net
TheWe= g@GMail.com

--00163630fa2bafad52049aada448-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 17:45:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B33718345A; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pnne9N5rSPgGIihtoJRtl+8z2I03W+CIr4m6g2N+d74=; b=cW7h9F1U/KZD6UDpJslr9Mk3dNTotc5DelrsudpFG2yeskg8R0Ss848nhgb/gHCIK1 Ey44x/40wWJcZoRhSbVYdajasSl5d5282Pjzr7KLGe9iypPuSy3YRgCNireNcI3onqvA bteAxgRpkJBOvr/f5WIZR5Hya0g7alkZxvAQc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hJPzAlsLKsJutpJ++eLf+HlIWYzdnhKUwpgGNFwjd+Kfc5YB/RKP6LvyLiZefIDgUq Kb8ixlkW/moILWLVAXayMS/8uors8G353fO1kPVbOhESoUcPeheGZArq/FhZOe11xTGW 5jfLvnwVFCT7F7OemHh76GoFFHeFCM3x9D32w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:44:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set From: Butch Band To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630eaa57d6e99049aaf46af Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:45:01 +0000 (UTC) --00163630eaa57d6e99049aaf46af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is there a way to perform a Next Loop function? I don't see any such function listed. MIDI control, perhaps? Butch On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Thomas Wegmann wrote: > Thanks guys for the information, I have ordered, this looks like my kind of > pedal! I hope all of you are doing well! > > Weg > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans wrote: >> >>> Where can I see more info on the LP2? >>> >> http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=LP2 >> >> >> LP-2 Mini Looper >> >> FEATURE SET: >> >> Double stomp box size >> AC: 9v battery or Wall Wart 9v 200ma, tip negative power supply >> Onboard storage of up to 8 loops on SD card >> Audio: Mono in and Mono out Fidelity: 16bit, 44.1khz >> 30 levels of Undo >> Feedback control (via additional expression pedal jack on back) >> LED input VU meter >> Input and Output volume control >> Four multi functional foot controlled buttons which control >> 1) RECORD/OVERDUB/UNDO >> 2) PLAY/STOP >> 3) EFFECT ONE, either: >> a) Continue (whereever a loop was stopped) >> b) ReTrigger (Continuous) >> c) 1/2 Speed >> d) Replace >> e) Q replace 1/8th notes >> f) Q replace 1/12 (triplet 8ths) >> g) Q replace 1/7 (7/8) >> h) Q replace 1/10 (5/8 or 5/4) >> 4) EFFECT TWO, either: >> a) ReTrigger (One Shot - Sample) >> b) ReTrigger (Random) >> c) 1/4 Speed >> d) Reverse >> e) Q replace 1/16th notes >> f) Q replace 1/24 (triplet 16th notes) >> g) Q replace 1/9 (9/8) >> h) Q replace 1/64 (Glitch mode) >> >> Street Price: $300 (10% discount if pre-ordered before March 1st >> release) >> Order from Bob Amstadt bob@looperlative.com >> >> >> > > > -- > Greg Wegmann > > TheWeg@Verizon.net > TheWeg@GMail.com > > --00163630eaa57d6e99049aaf46af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there a way to perform a Next Loop function? I don't see any su= ch function listed. MIDI control, perhaps?
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On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Thomas Wegmann= <theweg@gmail.com= > wrote:
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Weg

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans = wrote:
Where can I see more info on the= LP2?
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LP-2 =A0Mini Looper

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--00163630eaa57d6e99049aaf46af-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 18:15:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B50518345D; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nPwqOBu3sp8+otVhcr97zTqWHnC4c66CBgW4Kkb5Z2A=; b=ayK+R6HVetnkyjwFLdlOz7CmatTI4njVCFDQoGjn3mh/EW08f4K6ZcbJDCQXjOS/9G 7Evrm/IxcSuxlYj+gVHeV9FcoTwpCjRoUrCmIoLyVzSGQ2y2DhnV/pJM/nW1AJntlYnG wYfzHpwFtIs/sSubdzqA//XfZPK2ELCpv5RbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GtPQrLXII8uEtPD6ObFpDXE9tuV52pOfLVPvT85fVK4qir3Cc6oiY94Sb55sAlK19S FVMliycThl34ydIREbynFayvGiXIU5sa4KISusyGOt0M7ENfvpykEFIbovPvWnAGv6L0 AbqYVaT+Sj4EmQ8dwiQmZ1tONDgMtsZydgx70= Message-ID: <4D3F132A.9030806@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:15:06 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Singing and Looping was OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin References: <2882400052162534099@unknownmsgid> <4D3EA945.8020101@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D3EA945.8020101@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > I've even bought a Behringer Feedback Eliminator so that I can process > my voice through multiple > distortion/fuzz pedals and constrain the feedback that always occurs > when you do this live. > I haven't really worked it out yet, but that's one of the projects > I've wanted to have time to In addition to being a feedback eliminator, these things (at least those Behringer feedback things I know) can also work as parametric EQs - which gives you (dependant on the exact model) 12 to 24 stereo parametric EQs with a bandwidth down to 1/60 of an octave. And you can control them via MIDI. So, in combination with e.g. a computer or a hardware sequencer (to control the thing via MIDI), you got yourself a really powerful filter bank. (This has actually been on the list of things to do with my Behringer UltraCurve, which also offers this functionality, but which I had gotten and used for live sound applications exclusively and now somewhat retired). Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 18:23:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2472A18345D; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 562517292/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.239/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.239 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsBAB6jPk1YbRLv/2dsb2JhbAAMlkWXOLQlhU8Ej2KDIoYZ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,375,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="562517292" Message-ID: <4D3F1512.4070005@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:23:14 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:23:12 +0000 (UTC) nope, if it's not on the feature list it's ..uh.. not on the feature list stomp box simple andy Butch Band wrote: > Is there a way to perform a Next Loop function? I don't see any such > function listed. MIDI control, perhaps? > > Butch > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Thomas Wegmann > wrote: > > Thanks guys for the information, I have ordered, this looks like my > kind of pedal! I hope all of you are doing well! > > Weg > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rick Walker > wrote: > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans wrote: > > Where can I see more info on the LP2? > > http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=LP2 > > > LP-2 Mini Looper > > FEATURE SET: > > Double stomp box size > AC: 9v battery or Wall Wart 9v 200ma, tip negative power supply > Onboard storage of up to 8 loops on SD card > Audio: Mono in and Mono out Fidelity: 16bit, 44.1khz > 30 levels of Undo > Feedback control (via additional expression pedal jack on back) > LED input VU meter > Input and Output volume control > Four multi functional foot controlled buttons which control > 1) RECORD/OVERDUB/UNDO > 2) PLAY/STOP > 3) EFFECT ONE, either: > a) Continue (whereever a loop was stopped) > b) ReTrigger (Continuous) > c) 1/2 Speed > d) Replace > e) Q replace 1/8th notes > f) Q replace 1/12 (triplet 8ths) > g) Q replace 1/7 (7/8) > h) Q replace 1/10 (5/8 or 5/4) > 4) EFFECT TWO, either: > a) ReTrigger (One Shot - Sample) > b) ReTrigger (Random) > c) 1/4 Speed > d) Reverse > e) Q replace 1/16th notes > f) Q replace 1/24 (triplet 16th notes) > g) Q replace 1/9 (9/8) > h) Q replace 1/64 (Glitch mode) > > Street Price: $300 (10% discount if pre-ordered before March > 1st release) > Order from Bob Amstadt bob@looperlative.com > > > > > > > -- > Greg Wegmann > > TheWeg@Verizon.net > TheWeg@GMail.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 25 23:57:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14923183459; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=u5rsON5MLB1UeZcCryNDUck3oFzw5cLkAY0fJLuvNsQ=; b=nsJMfnaMytUiRtl9emGz2kdpT1/dZT/j9D/CcDX9HobHmIZuo6aO892zGEnAOoobWY IZBG3g6nv21QiwX/Hfm91LnqZiEmomEHIqD2xD0f/jC5kWUoXLsGRQEh3aGeaJFP6G2O whI09bXgnz1W1v722dNycOjbZeoCFHfp/0G1Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=X495ZpyH9g6hpbZfHe2sNolebdd7+BA/V/kpS6zU72hjk98GB3misrQtekK8qzxkxt lm1uvujXGDu0YdLL8dkI/PI+OZGY8BedJxpotTjSQegGvGsAI2OPzhdiTvZe6qRFX2I8 3RMkZOmOp5MQ0wdHNm+YnwBhz3irkOq/kuPxU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:57:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: rhythm sequencers software From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:57:47 +0000 (UTC) hey gang, i remeber a topic about drum machines sequencers and rhythm software to syncronize to looping software like mobius. I guess what im looking for is something you can load your own drum samples or loops,or that has great drum sounds or grooves with random variations so the grooves that arent static and that could work stable when slaved syncronized to mobius. I remember software being mentioned here that has those capabilities but i cant find the original post. But i do remember the Stylus RMX being mentioned,is there anything else out there interesting that you could recomend? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 00:05:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F4C718345F; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=BEISAgnZSKe+9KKVpHvY9h6Giu/vRtULi7v6bgv/mD4=; b=EXAGn2d57wn8zb6jUI4cC+yo2xU7uog7DUOqY2nV4R1/BIfc+TfYgBuJ92R2g/V6+n KVP42f8be3Z7EWvUguhGGW7mbkdEIfyNgG6nsqEK40QWWCJZSou5p6jkIcZ42VW1nYWx vbYpYwALf3+Sd4+R4L35ifV7knBMW5uLsdQr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=I8hpu3TXhlu9y/Riqcbb/FcVUFNfFpRC5pbgUJ1+7i0NyeV4zjqXMMd2GfS4u9BH5l oW/wuDn/uRd0K2lMjXsLDVPe3A2aDGkKiJZDZNLFhmRUuJtkMTXxHrEwniwHxbd7ic4U td/+GaFCPkUEAZkMw+LVhNLD2pu8JU/rOl4Rc= Message-Id: <265AED67-DF5D-4E6A-ADD9-A3544112DAB9@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--134448779 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:05:30 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:05:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--134448779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > anything > else out there interesting that you could recomend? iDrum lets you load your own samples. http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/idrum/ regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-1--134448779 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Jan 25, 2011, = at 3:57 PM, Louie Angulo wrote:

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= --Apple-Mail-1--134448779-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 09:13:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19045183476; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UccxUgwLclZGt9poHqyBpRB9OhMqdRMfkRpfZvCUSBw=; b=QvOiFg+q+3hAgg7rIu8AtrwwG9hu8HDOam6+a1FuF2kaoMNLDyC2Z0nFGLDGrw4kjU 1XAHjKNt4uWqS4fMMEBwxGLjiDUFs+fBnr2ZK5saIWoaitjEN4y3PxQoGv8PbuKztwxe UqzEg3+spN5ZkJWgI5/p95Hs98FYW4Aks/g5s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BCk5PiAZ1j+rz9/PP7KvV4bBH7RKufYpFo0cWXqRLgd43hkOrk+I0kLMdHLC+ObdsM lvKAjX72OZWtcnWVdv30tjkAdbRXXbSofGFUhyp9wpOavEl9XI0GfP0vddN+jmy5cSvr h8uxuTZKR4zx6HruKS5ztAIBvIGgyW2cySj+I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:13:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <03yJiD.A.vTF.rW-PNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:13:16 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > But i do remember the Stylus RMX being mentioned,is there anything > else out there interesting that you could recomend? Not really, since RMX's random variation system - called "Chaos" - is hard to beat. Other slightly less good partly randomized beats can be produced in the background by Ableton Live if setting up a bug number of drum loops as clips on an audio track in legato mode and then customize "random slice jumping" by the clip launch property settings. I mentioned iDrum in the past but it doesn't have any random function at all. But you can set up a big number of slightly different drum patterns and create a long looped song from them to achieve a similar feel of variation. Then there are slice-and-shuffle plugins like LiveCut, but LiveCut just sound like... LiveCut ;-)) If you like that it will do the job; not as musically delicate as RMX but in a more rough and glitchy way. When talking glitch affected drum solutions you could also check out BT's latest slicer plugin that recently was discussed on this list (and all over the web). Feed it a drum loop and set the level of randomization that sounds good for the song. 10 day's free demo to test out before buying. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 14:45:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97431183461; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XVjO0MxlYN9BW+ryyZfGtyAFlFPYYssanlMFWmPH1+Y=; b=PEyDzRAdUcC++b77CWU4gLmkkDWW5EKmcqpvJW+l3+xMRe2kjpJ4OIZz+9FDHBDlnW r289VffsRyKmha5Kr9igSbZEgA6gjvuw85trAK4phzr3CtW/zv9Jj/TfVpnmKO0hxECj O+YqiitBv/ax8h8vJ5P5ESxiIOEnW5SWyZC0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=f5H8XlKh/gpUoQY9aYv3v/iMThXuCEdr0ZFYcRTvAOCzF+b1lkAJlvYBX7MraquIaK I4rE73klZCu9yAmithQ2Yt5m0AtqZIAdhdJI9jSnMKPxttn6ozTMWrqRs5XTd5xPra15 JJ1jpx5GqUzJAS44BvLzFFdQ0wW0FbT5GlPrU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:45:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4768251d79e4049ac0e15b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:45:09 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba4768251d79e4049ac0e15b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Check out Jamstix too. http://www.rayzoon.com/jamstix3.html You set up different styles and it either takes your MIDI or audio in or preset MIDI grooves and creates patterns based on the style you setup. It's pretty cool. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > But i do remember the Stylus RMX being mentioned,is there anything > > else out there interesting that you could recomend? > > Not really, since RMX's random variation system - called "Chaos" - is > hard to beat. > > Other slightly less good partly randomized beats can be produced in > the background by Ableton Live if setting up a bug number of drum > loops as clips on an audio track in legato mode and then customize > "random slice jumping" by the clip launch property settings. > > I mentioned iDrum in the past but it doesn't have any random function > at all. But you can set up a big number of slightly different drum > patterns and create a long looped song from them to achieve a similar > feel of variation. > > Then there are slice-and-shuffle plugins like LiveCut, but LiveCut > just sound like... LiveCut ;-)) If you like that it will do the job; > not as musically delicate as RMX but in a more rough and glitchy way. > When talking glitch affected drum solutions you could also check out > BT's latest slicer plugin that recently was discussed on this list > (and all over the web). Feed it a drum loop and set the level of > randomization that sounds good for the song. 10 day's free demo to > test out before buying. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --90e6ba4768251d79e4049ac0e15b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out Jamstix too.

http://www.rayzoon.com/jamstix3.html

You set up different st= yles and it either takes your MIDI or audio in or preset MIDI grooves and c= reates patterns based on the style you setup.=A0 It's pretty cool.

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmai= l.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.= com> wrote:
> But i do remember the Stylus RMX being mentioned,is there anything
> else out there interesting that you could recomend?

Not really, since RMX's random variation system - called "Ch= aos" - is
hard to beat.

Other slightly less good partly randomized beats can be produced in
the background by Ableton Live if setting up a bug number of drum
loops as clips on an audio track in legato mode and then customize
"random slice jumping" by the clip launch property settings.

I mentioned iDrum in the past but it doesn't have any random function at all. But you can set up a big number of slightly different drum
patterns and create a long looped song from them to achieve a similar
feel of variation.

Then there are slice-and-shuffle plugins like LiveCut, but LiveCut
just sound like... LiveCut ;-)) =A0If you like that it will do the job;
not as musically delicate as RMX but in a more rough and glitchy way.
When talking glitch affected drum solutions you could also check out
BT's latest slicer plugin that recently was discussed on this list
(and all over the web). Feed it a drum loop and set the level of
randomization that sounds good for the song. 10 day's free demo to
test out before buying.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




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Tony
--90e6ba4768251d79e4049ac0e15b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 14:54:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F4DD183461; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 694 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:54:09 UTC X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1296052953-0368bc51b11706c0001-hGRpYp X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: HDean@wcupa.edu X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 144.26.0.90 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client From: "Dean, Hal" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box Thread-Topic: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box Thread-Index: AQHLvWNULG6jRKxFJ0qEVUVUxVGjuJPjTnsQ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:42:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.28.73.115] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: wcu-xch-06.wcupa.edu[144.26.0.90] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1296052953 X-Barracuda-URL: http://SPAMCONTROL.WCUPA.EDU:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at WCUPA.EDU Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Kevin, I've been dreaming of the separate strings thing for years and have been in= regular contact with Richard McLish about his fanout. Last promise was a n= ew batch in October 2010 - didn't happen, and I don't think it ever will. M= eanwhile, I've been following Bill Baxendale's work and, although his web s= ite is awful, his posts on guitar forums made it clear he really knows what= he is doing and that people who had his stuff liked it. So, I took the plu= nge and bought his breakout box. I have other projects from which I can't divert too much attention to this = right now, but I've started to fool with it for an hour at a time a few nig= hts. It is really well made and works perfectly right out of the box. I hav= e a by now antique setup using a GI-10 and a variety of MIDI-equipped guita= rs; so far all I've tried with this is the PRS I bought from Kris H. and ha= d Graphtech hex pickups installed on. Not wanting to dedicate my RME 800 to this, I routed 4 strings into open i= nputs on it and sent the other two into a Boss VF-1. From there I've been e= xperimenting in a most unscientific manner, just setting up templates in Cu= base and Reaper and adding effects to each input. Given that the signal is= weak I've put Voxengo Boogex on each channel. The recordings have low sig= nal level for each individual string but when you listen to them together i= t is robust. I also did a bit of mangling each track independently, normali= zing, reversing, chopping and the like. The sound quality remained excellen= t. I'm sure there is a more sophisticated way to boost the signals, but I'm ju= st learning Reaper and hadn't gotten there yet. I suspect Ableton Live will= eventually prove the best program for use with this setup. Then there is looping. I have a laptop dedicated to that (Mobius in Bidule)= , with a soundcard that does not have 6 inputs. I haven't gotten into Mobiu= s 1.43. Sometime this spring I imagine I will devote some time to learning = 1.43, taking advantage of some of the amazing script development that is ha= ppening, and do all that on the desktop that I have the RME 800 on.... at w= hich point the 6 strings into Mobius would be a truly sick puppy. I'll rep= ort on all this from time to time. Bill Baxendale is a real craftsman and great engineer and provided fabulous= service. No, it is not cheap, but the breakout box is VERY cool. As for the Unfretted project, I too was intimidated by the skill level requ= ired to make it. I joined mfg.com with an eye towards "managing" production= , perhaps soliciting interest from others on this list and elsewhere, but I= never pursued it. You could consider taking that on. Hal=20 -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 4:49 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box Yeah I've been in contact with him but he's quoting something like 60 pound= s in freight (almost $100 in shipping) so it winds up just a little bit und= er the price of the RMC Fanout box. I'm thinking I'll be shelving this thought for a while. Kevin On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Gareth Whittock = wrote: > Have=A0a look at this Kevin: > > http://billbax.110mb.com/ > > G > >> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:21:51 -0800 >> Subject: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box >> From: billowhead@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Hello soldier fiends, >> >> Having looked into the basic Midi breakout boxes available for the VG=20 >> 8, etc, I realized, I don't have $400 to buy one of these. So looking=20 >> around I found this=20 >> http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=3D/profs/breakout >> >> Any of you technically inclined people have any advice on how to do=20 >> this (for a basic novice who has soldered a thing or two but never=20 >> built a functioning device)? I'm wondering a couple of things a), how=20 >> feasible is this b) about how much a home brew would cost c) anyone=20 >> with the skills willing to build one (for a fee of course). >> >> I'm at the level where I'm not sure I could actually do anything with=20 >> these plans but I could probably put it together if I had the parts. >> >> Feel free to tell me I'm better off without the dream of processing=20 >> six strings separately. I think I might be better off that way. >> Unless one of you out there...... >> >> Kevin >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have=20 >> a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video=20 >> http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a for= m. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/us= er877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 15:09:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DFEE183475; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: rhythm sequencers software Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:09:14 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acu9Z8s9mpS2EiA3R9CFIPhtnvImXgAAVmDg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: <8VsSe.A.mrF.ekDQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:09:18 +0000 (UTC) > i remeber a topic about drum machines sequencers and rhythm software > to syncronize to looping software like mobius. > I guess what im looking for is something you can load your own drum > samples or loops,or that has great drum sounds or grooves with random > variations so the grooves that arent static and that could work stable > when slaved syncronized to mobius. I've spent some hours searching for such products today again. The one I like best so far is Steinberg's Grooveagent - it sounds nice and has some amount of random licks, and has lots of different styles. But you have to have a Steinberg USB key and I keep having problems with the software suddenly not recognizing the key, for some reason. Also, Grooveagent is large and fat and takes up resources, and more often than not, Bidule crashes. So far it doesn't feel like I can use it live although I'd love to - it syncs easily with Bidule's sync transport. There are other similarly sized products, such as Meldaproductions MDrummer, or Rayzoon's Jamstix. Stylus RMX looks good, I haven't tried it yet. They all probably can do lots of things but for my needs, they are all oversized and overcomplicated. I was looking for something small and easy to handle. There is some electro thing called Cerebrum that is small and nice and easy to handle but it has a certain artificial electro sound to it - I'd prefer acoustic instruments but of course this requires samples and blows the thing up big time again. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 15:15:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5535918347A; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: rhythm sequencers software Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:15:53 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acu9Z8tc9ForNxwfSf+/TEoixw/0TQABAt9g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:15:56 +0000 (UTC) > RMX's random variation system - called "Chaos" - is hard to beat. how does it behave resource-wise? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 15:28:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB0D6183477; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lePWP90F+Eko9tK8vkhCbNR+Py+LcfvrKjZ8Iozmiok=; b=AZFjTBtPZWNwzJ3Jx5B7APy9jyQnk59tziQOzbr64r9gjcBVzAAMkmNJJgrxu9nPlZ SH4Fyf9UycM9T9GmISckSvB4Frxz1ShebUvSFpSMxOCNHy8PVcO6S5yTfzJ8YEBQrIbA TKK8iPeIkWkABzF938ug1IJd7ekJIs/ZgR2ws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=c1eOtHAsJWQN7phh9YZmdp2vRwQt+eH7od7SGFn5wHbWJKUDTQrZRv1s1c2Zit9j1e SwvoTgN8DT805wOgj6pficdyq8PUOrDEKnDAONYR0yGj/BE7qIYIrTZFPT1H4R7a09E0 Rolv65T8kmv6sow14xN7EptdkGNv9lRsjW6+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:27:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:28:01 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> RMX's random variation system - called "Chaos" - is hard to beat. > > how does it behave resource-wise? Too CPU hungry for my taste. That is using a 2.2 GHz Core2Duo Santa Rosa Macbook and also if you sign up external control faders to adjust RMX settings while running. If only running a couple of alternative drum loops with the Chaos function randomization it might work. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 15:37:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF663183481; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_culsaNpyN+x7N0+RMtLn+A)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-26_06:2011-01-26,2011-01-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1101260087 Message-id: <418E254A-28B6-4D7F-B6D3-222BB72EE29F@mac.com> From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:37:19 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:37:28 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_culsaNpyN+x7N0+RMtLn+A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sonic Charge - =B5Tonic --Boundary_(ID_culsaNpyN+x7N0+RMtLn+A) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sonic Charge - = =B5Tonic

= --Boundary_(ID_culsaNpyN+x7N0+RMtLn+A)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 15:54:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 683E118347A; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-26_06:2011-01-26,2011-01-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1101260092 Message-id: <1965A0F5-8946-4BFA-AC2D-4E5449868C71@mac.com> From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:53:55 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Trigger random percussion instruments with an acoustic instrument, via audio to midi converter, loop the percussion and create your own Han Bennink'esque/ interactive accompaniment. Adjustments to pitch range, velocity sensitivity, etc. can fine tuned to effect how/ when the samples respond, though I prefer the more random interaction. Really neat with with tuned percussion (gamelan, hang drum etc) = pitch bent percussion...... - Paul http://www.soundcloud.com/r369improv http://www.youtube.com/r369improv From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 15:59:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB882183476; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-26_06:2011-01-26,2011-01-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1101260093 Message-id: <646D1A38-DE26-4D68-BE43-C3020BBDB89C@mac.com> From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:59:07 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:59:10 +0000 (UTC) not sure, maybe this fits the bill: Sonic Charge: << http://www.soniccharge.com/microtonic >> On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Michael Peters wrote: >> i remeber a topic about drum machines sequencers and rhythm software >> to syncronize to looping software like mobius. >> I guess what im looking for is something you can load your own drum >> samples or loops,or that has great drum sounds or grooves with random >> variations so the grooves that arent static and that could work >> stable >> when slaved syncronized to mobius. > > > I've spent some hours searching for such products today again. The > one I > like best so far is Steinberg's Grooveagent - it sounds nice and has > some > amount of random licks, and has lots of different styles. But you > have to > have a Steinberg USB key and I keep having problems with the software > suddenly not recognizing the key, for some reason. Also, Grooveagent > is > large and fat and takes up resources, and more often than not, Bidule > crashes. So far it doesn't feel like I can use it live although I'd > love to > - it syncs easily with Bidule's sync transport. > > There are other similarly sized products, such as Meldaproductions > MDrummer, > or Rayzoon's Jamstix. Stylus RMX looks good, I haven't tried it yet. > They > all probably can do lots of things but for my needs, they are all > oversized > and overcomplicated. I was looking for something small and easy to > handle. > > There is some electro thing called Cerebrum that is small and nice > and easy > to handle but it has a certain artificial electro sound to it - I'd > prefer > acoustic instruments but of course this requires samples and blows > the thing > up big time again. > > > -Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 16:04:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AF96183478; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VofEbYPnAePSKUaPJkqgklwbxWEPf2cxVSVuu2+aFFk=; b=Z9sGTwMFX4zuVCE+zhdTh0lfhVCK9Y7XgMzDqn3dTGqYxI1M1dT9BgGIJ2iJKxyZ1k mLtJypNp3nDiBy7Tw7w3fWADXG5PlB4eEpu8aGZmHOa0nvWql6nRQ4t2/zDxwxNZgaw8 PNXJuDpVoqttXqkpFO/pRaUKcmKYK4Tad3Sko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gK3+TqH1d3jedDf9x6T8hLr2EUiRaDZi8QWAx3y+N7Kw2o9AKVhuKLqWf5FLN+irOV 0OrJKe5hvxK0vpV++l9a70gmZytm0ADE/V8/z0VRy3I3YAvsIeHWvHU/cTQGDm0ID5Q8 vowcSsLkKc5PQ6GD7/Z5bGNEfwdIR6BdbsfrQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <418E254A-28B6-4D7F-B6D3-222BB72EE29F@mac.com> References: <418E254A-28B6-4D7F-B6D3-222BB72EE29F@mac.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:52:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:03:58 +0000 (UTC) what im very interested in also is how reliable is Mobius slaving Ableton synced with something like LoopBE as Rainer mentioned. with all this software isnt there any simple drum sampler out there that can sync reliably with mobius?? so i guess this is probably where hardware still wins,no? EDP and adrenalinn synced or any other drum machine are rock solid combination! On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > Sonic Charge - =B5Tonic > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 16:33:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5751183476; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0KIvMWW3eSiRzW++uwA0QOZFhks9JKEFPqQd9/2An2s=; b=kTgAS1F2Cd3235KYLobME6oZJRZLLWBSx5vVppxXb9qOcen8KAHZIfmISnQ0kqnyvQ vhC0QPt2kj5VO5CsadW8lCFuKo2+e//LH7HU4BWmKQOcPzSg71rcnGge3vahBZJzCH6r Qhe12Pb5TKqiqMUaF2rWLGt9zWNOzHPuEFySE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UvIsEz2f78povYgYCDzp/bvyL8+93WVZk73ugsPE6awzxbcgzUT7a6CEvpXbJnBzr+ VRA87+m50RITmYLkB8Mu9d1V24Oel1LgmClBAz4zoGUs+zVL1klh8ah6l4PfSoq8ZR0R xmYzYIOBnEveGaCkjSk2IyPmmRooVEf6zsGI8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <418E254A-28B6-4D7F-B6D3-222BB72EE29F@mac.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:33:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > what im very interested in also is how reliable is Mobius slaving > Ableton synced with something like LoopBE as Rainer mentioned. Not very reliable - if you mean that Ableton should sync as the slave to something (?) while running Mobius as a plug-in. Ableton is a stable host but when playing catch-up the amounts of calculations needed to be fulfilled on a very short deadline can easily increase too much for the given time window. > with all this software isnt there any simple drum sampler out there > that can sync reliably with mobius?? Mobius can not be a plugin host so that needs the software drum sampler to follow MIDI Clock (sent out by Mobius). I would guess a lot of the software drum samplers can do that fine. Myself I've been using iDrum since 2004 both as MIDI Clock slave synced standalone application and as plugin under a host and wouldn't hesitate to recommend it for live work. It can keep its own song structure arrangement and switch between. iDrum is not a sampler though, it is a Sample Player. If you are serious about a software based drum sampler there is the new Geist from FxPansion. Native Instrument's sampler Kontakt 4 can also double up as a drum sampler (not sure you want both sampling and sequencing within the same drum software, but I guessed so when writing this answer). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 16:37:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B55DB183485; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0IsL5970vLpspA11v1NHbZ+1rAlotTHIBOmuh5UdlvQ=; b=KrorTI7YHq8tLMnyPJ3xs1G3MfmWTfftqoFLcTxIOq0Cid9Wb2r3ReVCZAz3BfUtPE WC262Y74nJ5u2BAZOp1B4bEr3OLA5OjOQzMB19eW5KEb3lI6YkArmQDwADzgTw0Ixpgc YoVQoCtd1tQ1zRWczb0abgRCMxdXKIQq4P+QQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mtKU64ZFw3C8iONg0A4aThPf8YSneZjkpMk8RT5b6LQ3KLtjuDaAM331zCs3sg4WRV xvXqAcjXoUDPvztNdAgCQFTx4TLn7EaB2lM563cEHR84aFc8AD0Sfy+bA27mj3qvKEpl mzPlHI3glAaKl8pzULjhnMDQHluIlGDtWJutc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D3F1512.4070005@tiscali.co.uk> References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> <4D3F1512.4070005@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:37:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set From: Butch Band To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb820953e72049ac274e8 Resent-Message-ID: <3AOW5B.A.f8H.m3EQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:37:58 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cb820953e72049ac274e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, I normally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator pedal or windows. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:23 PM, andy butler wrote: > nope, > if it's not on the feature list it's > ..uh.. > not on the feature list > > > stomp box simple > > andy > > Butch Band wrote: > >> Is there a way to perform a Next Loop function? I don't see any such >> function listed. MIDI control, perhaps? >> Butch >> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Thomas Wegmann > theweg@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Thanks guys for the information, I have ordered, this looks like my >> kind of pedal! I hope all of you are doing well! >> Weg >> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rick Walker > > wrote: >> >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans wrote: >> >> Where can I see more info on the LP2? >> >> http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=LP2 >> >> >> LP-2 Mini Looper >> >> FEATURE SET: >> >> Double stomp box size >> AC: 9v battery or Wall Wart 9v 200ma, tip negative power supply >> Onboard storage of up to 8 loops on SD card >> Audio: Mono in and Mono out Fidelity: 16bit, 44.1khz >> 30 levels of Undo >> Feedback control (via additional expression pedal jack on back) >> LED input VU meter >> Input and Output volume control >> Four multi functional foot controlled buttons which control >> 1) RECORD/OVERDUB/UNDO >> 2) PLAY/STOP >> 3) EFFECT ONE, either: >> a) Continue (whereever a loop was stopped) >> b) ReTrigger (Continuous) >> c) 1/2 Speed >> d) Replace >> e) Q replace 1/8th notes >> f) Q replace 1/12 (triplet 8ths) >> g) Q replace 1/7 (7/8) >> h) Q replace 1/10 (5/8 or 5/4) >> 4) EFFECT TWO, either: >> a) ReTrigger (One Shot - Sample) >> b) ReTrigger (Random) >> c) 1/4 Speed >> d) Reverse >> e) Q replace 1/16th notes >> f) Q replace 1/24 (triplet 16th notes) >> g) Q replace 1/9 (9/8) >> h) Q replace 1/64 (Glitch mode) >> >> Street Price: $300 (10% discount if pre-ordered before March >> 1st release) >> Order from Bob Amstadt bob@looperlative.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- Greg Wegmann >> >> TheWeg@Verizon.net >> TheWeg@GMail.com >> >> >> > --0015175cb820953e72049ac274e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, I no= rmally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator pedal= or windows.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:23 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tisca= li.co.uk> wrote:
nope,
if it's not on the = feature list it's
..uh..
not on the feature list


stomp= box simple

andy

Butch Band wrote:
Is there a way to perform a Next Loop function? I don'= ;t see any such function listed. MIDI control, perhaps?
=A0Butch

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On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Thomas Wegmann <theweg@gmail.com <= mailto:theweg@gmail.c= om>> wrote:

=A0 =A0Thanks guys for the information, I have ordered, this looks like= my
=A0 =A0kind of pedal! =A0I hope all of you are doing well!
=A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 Weg

=A0 =A0On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rick Walker = <looppool@cruzi= o.com
=A0 =A0<mailto:looppool@cruzio.com>> wrote:

=A0 =A0 =A0= =A0On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans wrote:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Wh= ere can I see more info on the LP2?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod= =3DLP2


=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0LP-2 =A0Mini Looper

=A0 =A0 =A0= =A0FEATURE SET:

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=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0AC: =A09v battery or Wall Wart 9v 200ma, tip negative power = supply
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Onboard storage of up to 8 loops on SD card
=A0= =A0 =A0 =A0Audio: Mono in and Mono out =A0 =A0 Fidelity: =A0 16bit, 44.1kh= z
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A030 levels of Undo
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=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0LED input VU meter
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=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 d) Reverse
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=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Street Pri= ce: =A0 $300 =A0(10% discount if pre-ordered before March
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=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Order from Bob Amstadt =A0 =A0 bob@looperlative.com
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<mailto:bob@looperlative.com>=20






=A0 =A0-- =A0 =A0 Greg Wegmann
=A0 =A0TheWeg@Verizon.net
=A0 =A0TheWeg@GMail.com


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--0015175cb820953e72049ac274e8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 16:46:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7276118348E; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IP0M+Cx+kK9RRSvz6/wCtZKzu1vwVqjSFkHbA8iV4k8=; b=kJYiAOeDDglcuXS8XOv9IhNbe1T58R3YuroZtTb5P366L29Z/CA0Bsbio3R5dONDMa ZnAuNVisj/gyhq/zUy30TO4jhKWQb0aqlQPA4ERsIEOw7GHO+imkq/EMjLQ5eQDoiJLp 8wHjSW+V4sp/fVNbuen30k7fpAwBOg8Gv1XtY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QPGriTgPAdR1TVGOrdBWTfb3SjAqsJ0hO/4c16rI5OKdlMu0RrnsmEVq/uhht0Q+Gb 4sA7m7MqK00+4oZInbaC/1CMztWVzDn37u88JlEEPVAHmrTAuZPwQOy8uPEfuRShg/3O jEdJ/IfMm3Kt/RZ9n+HvGwBGaHZk5J/eIxWsw= Message-ID: <4D404FEB.7040109@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:46:35 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software References: <418E254A-28B6-4D7F-B6D3-222BB72EE29F@mac.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo schrieb: > what im very interested in also is how reliable is Mobius slaving > Ableton synced with something like LoopBE as Rainer mentioned. > Different to Per's experiences here (could you describe them a little, Per? Your description was very root-cause-based, but didn't actually describe in which situations a problem arises), I cannot remember any problems syncing Live to something or having something synced to Live. That being said, I didn't do the specific setup of Live synced to Möbius very often - An Ambient Manifold, however, did use that most of the time, and for one week of daily performances without any problems. Also contrary to Per's experience, I did quite often sync Live to a MC505 in the past, and didn't encounter problems, either - this included generous amounts of the IR-sensor-controlled slowdown effect. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 17:03:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2960183478; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2Pf9UEStL77AQB9q7tTK29PkGcJnk5on2iKO00kGuH4=; b=Ot3Pg04ZF15gJxjTchJkca2G+be5sgLBrKnnXepSs278Vix3ym3azWT4VEqCE5T0om +vQBi6Hb3I+fAwiWOufb10dUqt09lIECumk44xopuznY78LMf9pNaNk5zIV1smy3y43d L5lsaGjVFEGJoUEOky0By7d+b2sb4ZCgy9nRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=Pax0OWm9rz7Jof6xLrIThKak7R1+3dcukGQlnyABgbOMZfE5azQXutl9ZdPFBPDW2o ABnfszHWW9tqQcHguFzlRDu4ywvEWkvJyvOePersgMtDS2VphDBP/C60s221b3L7PuH5 rrR/UfiSCCe8LlwC/dVEWUUedACkR6D66E+k0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:03:47 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2urhGJ2WT1cOYcGDdRd4IYA0uYs Message-ID: Subject: A modest proposal. From: daniel To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8d7803bf12049ac2d1a5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:03:49 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8d7803bf12049ac2d1a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dearest Looping Brethren, Daniel Harris of Boston, MA (USA) here. Aside from my looping love and linguistic allegiances, I am also an active artist-for-hire on the Boston scene. I typically do concert posters but have also done t-shirt designs, album art, stickers and buttons. I'm easy to work with, accommodating and incredibly serious about the work I do. Here are links to work some I've done... Etsy shop: http://www.etsy.com/shop/danielharris Concert posters: http://theanorexicfoodcritic.blogspot.com/2010/10/does-your-band-need-show-poster.html Album art: http://www.myspace.com/danielhmusic/photos/albums/album/1987835#mssrc=SitesPhotos_SP_AlbumCover_ViewAlbum If you're looking for art for your band, project or even your walls, please drop me a line! best, Daniel www.danielharris.bandcamp.com --90e6ba6e8d7803bf12049ac2d1a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dearest Looping Brethren,

Daniel Harris of Boston, MA (USA) here. A= side from my looping love and linguistic allegiances, I am also an active a= rtist-for-hire on the Boston scene. I typically do concert posters but have= also done t-shirt designs, album art, stickers and buttons.=A0

I'm easy to work with, accommodating and incredibly serious about t= he work I do.

Here are links to work some I've done...

E= tsy shop: http://www.etsy= .com/shop/danielharris

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If you're looking for art for your band, project or even your w= alls, please drop me a line!


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--90e6ba6e8d7803bf12049ac2d1a5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 17:07:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97AB8183479; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OBqLQkDkpxG+N6yGeH8G/uv2gQPpST9D5R+ZJGKhyKo=; b=fr6orecR9PKhiY+bKh4v175iJFJlqyc2dlD/8XLMbo/tzVaVgaB4JECjuSFM3py/zB vUmCgbSUYazjwhujWOmd8x4t7W6SmM3l5gmP6jfHLv0/wmTWu5nV8LKHIJD8MSUD6OcN r5d3+jnHdykwWe52jR5uhZr/FO8R/ZhRvlcb0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ic6qD1mkU1qiROXUxboXcsqTEVaRjDBmEI69F9qNujV7j7RACAniOGB7+07n66cM/j ZS55eUVRzrnttzS9pdfu77v3AruDE6VBWJrtTZKmUT7rgOMldHwu4f86W0zNYxDR6AL1 sxU+HOjYTspIciHZiKuAl0GeGpNFqeXX+nc4Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D404FEB.7040109@googlemail.com> References: <418E254A-28B6-4D7F-B6D3-222BB72EE29F@mac.com> <4D404FEB.7040109@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:07:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:07:48 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Louie Angulo schrieb: >> >> what im very interested in also is how reliable is Mobius slaving >> Ableton synced with something like LoopBE as Rainer mentioned. >> > > Different to Per's experiences here (could you describe them a little, Per? > Your description was very root-cause-based, but didn't actually describe in > which situations a problem arises), Error message: "Sync Lost". This happens often when Live is following MIDI Clock from an EDP that goes Speed, HalfTempo etc because this action changes the tempo by double or half. It works better when using Mobius as the tempo host because that allows you to set the allowed tempo range in Mobius (= easier for Live to catch up with). But as I understoodLuis he asked about slaving Live to something (which master sync source he doesn't mention) while syncing the Moibus plugin to Live by "plugin host sync" (need to use the VST version then because this doesn't work in Mobius AU). I Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 17:18:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6CEA183478; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=70lwZuKFD3LBjsBAMksvr5xURNFEXMlaUx/mUdGsP1w=; b=fJgj8aFUHwMwTAXJZwo2wucnb/DXb8a4xV6mmxyM7s65DU43II1oyGW2XNJ9Stf0vd G7g5AjufCRH1Bge1yV13qADil63AmfPphnVKaCoV60pnd98MepOs1azI8xLTqzrnhGZm Y6P7meWhN9IM8D/qFKoBBPpCVqCV4YBLQ8smM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=EYIP+52pJnPzp8vWaAMPTkXvhqva1OR1kyUUwX5IyQKjh7x/xhkNZsu64/VU0qJ9gg +K25PYfrO/kKI8hOp/rIamD83Py/oF8rCevmw2Jhht3d0KFDtGI4fYUgNSlCPIv2Sv8I +ab8RGCj1Mf0QsohaVjUm8OJcQguBKzON42Tw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:18:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: boomerang III review in premier guitar mag From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7e8bebf57a049ac306c3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:18:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7e8bebf57a049ac306c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 just saw this: http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2011/Feb/Boomerang_Musical_Products_Boomerang_III_Phrase_Sampler_Pedal_Review.aspx haven't read it yet, have seen demos, looks cool. s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0016364c7e8bebf57a049ac306c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just saw this:

http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2011/Feb/Boomerang_M= usical_Products_Boomerang_III_Phrase_Sampler_Pedal_Review.aspx

haven't read it yet, have seen demos, looks cool.

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--0016364c7e8bebf57a049ac306c3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 17:20:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6581F183484; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jvBT6kexHtpm8MLMM2BZqZMBLSYs6FiP/jraklHxp/g=; b=LtZfuYRtpd8KxncIM0ljQEF4CfIoINimFRwHQTcwdsr4QlwVmMhMVKYpdiSYgZT/0t H0ooEGdsM7jHzxeWRkNEeiaflm6oe3GSKoetXa2Ur9W7HDntBu9bRA412pBcggYyorkE XesbQW67xXzAj7TXS3NfOJX0xgPcMTlgb5drY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kw8aqqRU+J4/wH9r6KXGGJsBLIGvRfcxiln1Gi2ojQR7GZU+gC9hbyEadEc2jw4jbP 7kouBssTGgq5N8FiyCTj1VRtO6ktYs4imyDN2GXiCs91ZwjzWNenO/C5d2QZtZNn4ZTW nBBWr5yUEP/kbdd60JwC3AfGlElaRgDD2PEdU= Message-ID: <4D4056F7.5060702@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:16:39 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> <4D3F1512.4070005@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Butch Band schrieb: > Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, > I normally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator > pedal or windows. Oh yes, you do! http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/full_screen_v2.html http://www.ktm-x-bow.com/ -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 17:34:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8986218348E; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:34:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> <4D3F1512.4070005@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D3F1512.4070005@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <8BD749DD-F866-44AF-BC0C-7A9698752022@1800dialword.com> thread-topic: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set thread-index: Acu9f0ZpyscQpjIxSai1Z1oZi7Nepw== Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:34:02 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2011 17:34:40.0967 (UTC) FILETIME=[4FEDC570:01CBBD7F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:34:43 +0000 (UTC) Thats funny because there are several features on the LP1 that arent on the f= eature list!!! Fun to find them tho!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:23 PM, andy butler wrote: > nope, > if it's not on the feature list it's > ..uh.. > not on the feature list >=20 >=20 > stomp box simple >=20 > andy >=20 > Butch Band wrote: >> Is there a way to perform a Next Loop function? I don't see any such func= tion listed. MIDI control, perhaps? >> Butch >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Thomas Wegmann > wrote: >> Thanks guys for the information, I have ordered, this looks like my >> kind of pedal! I hope all of you are doing well! >> Weg >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rick Walker > > wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans wrote: >> Where can I see more info on the LP2? >> http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=3DLP2 >> LP-2 Mini Looper >> FEATURE SET: >> Double stomp box size >> AC: 9v battery or Wall Wart 9v 200ma, tip negative power supply >> Onboard storage of up to 8 loops on SD card >> Audio: Mono in and Mono out Fidelity: 16bit, 44.1khz >> 30 levels of Undo >> Feedback control (via additional expression pedal jack on back) >> LED input VU meter >> Input and Output volume control >> Four multi functional foot controlled buttons which control >> 1) RECORD/OVERDUB/UNDO >> 2) PLAY/STOP >> 3) EFFECT ONE, either: >> a) Continue (whereever a loop was stopped) >> b) ReTrigger (Continuous) >> c) 1/2 Speed >> d) Replace >> e) Q replace 1/8th notes >> f) Q replace 1/12 (triplet 8ths) >> g) Q replace 1/7 (7/8) >> h) Q replace 1/10 (5/8 or 5/4) >> 4) EFFECT TWO, either: >> a) ReTrigger (One Shot - Sample) >> b) ReTrigger (Random) >> c) 1/4 Speed >> d) Reverse >> e) Q replace 1/16th notes >> f) Q replace 1/24 (triplet 16th notes) >> g) Q replace 1/9 (9/8) >> h) Q replace 1/64 (Glitch mode) >> Street Price: $300 (10% discount if pre-ordered before March >> 1st release) >> Order from Bob Amstadt bob@looperlative.com >> >> -- Greg Wegmann >> TheWeg@Verizon.net >> TheWeg@GMail.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 17:58:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AA64183475; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <418E254A-28B6-4D7F-B6D3-222BB72EE29F@mac.com> Subject: RE: rhythm sequencers software Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:58:20 +0100 Message-ID: <965F998A9A1D4D9B8EC4B4EFDC89625A@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acu9eLvjr/873ojrRyymepDPY8PKHgACZlAg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: <418E254A-28B6-4D7F-B6D3-222BB72EE29F@mac.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:58:24 +0000 (UTC) > Sonic Charge - =B5Tonic=20 looks nice and sounds nice but apparently they forgot to sync the meters = to the host - when I run in with Bidule's sync transport, it gets = start/stop and speed changes but it ignores if I change it from 4/4 to 3/4 or 7/8 - = it stays in 4/4 all the time. That is something that Steinberg Grooveagent = and other drum vstis do better -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 18:08:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFAD2183460; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LTq4wMCm2AU9/FlQ1CHQagZkcUppCvY7AgNZHn7Txwg=; b=B72fJcmU0/WnMxxu04CsGiz1DFbVy9EVpTMzR7d+xuhHAHEqhVpim/KlW7t1o0X0u2 ozBxwkc+S9jBFtpYF5EVcauNnOPXE9rcenKPZEAGo/MHpnz9lQbrHLx13hvPRJol26Xb i9Di45hki59poqG4vO0myGj0cJ39JB+KShBck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tUF1vC7YxdmWLUHg6+qunQFk8PD51FTM1J35iX3JlbLRL3/Rgt193L6dDJTjdI5R0T qxGp2A5VHu0H3C/uKqe6iXpAf1UXi+xjsJB1MgDxVl4fok5fi3+XdxsX2/9LGyQ6TcDd 2arBcyDHmcaY6F5h/eo2Q5yxSDAViGkWS0XNA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <965F998A9A1D4D9B8EC4B4EFDC89625A@mpeserver> References: <418E254A-28B6-4D7F-B6D3-222BB72EE29F@mac.com> <965F998A9A1D4D9B8EC4B4EFDC89625A@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:08:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:08:06 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> Sonic Charge - =C2=B5Tonic > > looks nice and sounds nice but apparently they forgot to sync the meters = to > the host - when I run in with Bidule's sync transport, it gets start/stop > and speed changes but it ignores if I change it from 4/4 to 3/4 or 7/8 - = it > stays in 4/4 all the time. That is something that Steinberg Grooveagent a= nd > other drum vstis do better Thanks, Michael. That's good to know. I like the techno style drum sounds on the =C2=B5Tonic demo clips at the site :-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 18:09:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB8D2183461; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WzaqI1hCNIlgjuzBLfngqHouNFtr2cVZnw88e8grp5I=; b=u4zyD2P8wkr4swXKvGZv3go1nCX734SSiTSAtQ+Z6lC/g5ThVmSo+EHPaWiyBmlVBb T6HvIFaroWAaJeK44CWDgDyQyy6Nh0VNPwZ6ydUdUJZNXTmXi7Wh5uipw0P4qmaXTglJ zCb2+xpDnr+sYE466qSPniVSUyuThoaVIEK3k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WLjFEZCm9O4bvhvNuM/2rTdoro64ViHAGynenUgmxU1SmrLyqZn98GjYjic/7SIZKv vrgDDJnJq1YJgUEFOyaDqZXpFzkE1S7rCGgCBxmkWybQZC3rAXMV7hLNI23tGgFb+X6W HZJ471tgoEK3RkfrJ1lFoj3WwZtLqCSRkM3MQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8BD749DD-F866-44AF-BC0C-7A9698752022@1800dialword.com> References: <2C447AD0-D3C8-4D1E-8C65-1E378E0FE0F7@trufun.com> <4D374EBB.1040306@cruzio.com> <4D3F1512.4070005@tiscali.co.uk> <8BD749DD-F866-44AF-BC0C-7A9698752022@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:09:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:09:30 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Thats funny because there are several features on the LP1 that arent on the feature list!!! Fun to find them tho!! Easter Eggs!!! Per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 18:10:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1008C18347E; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296065423; bh=ytWbsW4FbqKGu0bnUPzEgHYeFxF8vrnosvJzkEwk0gM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ws2sSBN/We6q9AgDfHY47Vyx1qlFXj/1c8ScMIBdy+g+SJurPzSxEmv9acI+vMfXepP1HygFVXyBZw3zvKsdDwa7qthufN4Z3FOhK81kbvLMnJLGrG7pTe32TiQaQpnkQltoNiG8JjNkbXNEexBr6v/e10OspoX1JQy4dk/kVP0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=U/UjTqarbBj9fXwuloQobGYCYP6D2cnpkR6DYReE7A11k7KJL24jw9MLpbt2SB8z7td6tySEIWnXW2NrsNkF1Ze8iEPX0+GUNjG+fqu/Lu8XfnAb5WGhfyjgPU3Yel5lCj0Qo+SeCZclVW3es16aU7uj825yOhRQ5uaRcKTwS10=; Message-ID: <47292.96231.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mkID7roVM1nyvtvDW2kpUvSXIuzH91pyiIg1gXCIMftMiFq 57diGNiDM4t27n5RDyDlLNMY7YQKTrj6q2OVmT2JejOeVWrxQCkFjRq8E19Q 0bek434vKKfYYxQW2Orl_dZ0MW4geRoCsDYycA_hkOqE0DldR0oSUg9yMBoe xj1.akRKLhzzQzVRM_vz1PmioitZlaIKKNdreMA9MUY7jiZILgw2TE_Ehnap fDCKxh2.t88sJNKYIvC9F7Osgy3aVjM0ZpkAY3I9cza.5ZsHD5lNPhEN.pQN kJLuUKQOThRyESSg_6Q38m51ouNwAQJW6mg6OtD.Vi.JCBtoCP2x54jLbzWo Sagd.6oxJQgk.WD5E84.trQLvdYuTNXNgB93mHZm2twKkvmEAiuozS0C6wrp AeSOBUg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:10:22 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D4056F7.5060702@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-834101073-1296065422=:96231" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:10:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-834101073-1296065422=:96231 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not in the U.S. - maybe in Mumbai. --- On Wed, 1/26/11, Rainer Straschill wrote: From: Rainer Straschill Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 12:16 PM Butch Band schrieb: > Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, I normally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator pedal or windows. Oh yes, you do! http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/full_screen_v2.html http://www.ktm-x-bow.com/ -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs --0-834101073-1296065422=:96231 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks Andy,

That's a useful resource,= could come in handy one day, I'll bookmark it. 

Shame they do= n't seem to stock the light sensitive component that has failed in your FCB= 1010.  AS I said before though, that wouldn't stop me buying it off yo= u for =A330.

By the way, I own 2 solder suckers!

Regards,
=
Stephen


--- On Mon, 1/17/11, andy butler <akbutler@= tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

From: andy= butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: Source for replacement s= witches for fcb1010
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Mon= day, January 17, 2011, 4:24 PM


Found th= is on my travels looking for a different part:-

http://pms-electronics.com/shop1/oxid.php/sid/92d81f47166531= 8b80db0412b4025793/cl/details/anid/44076964b6f860.98562451/SW%3ATACTILE%3BP= OL%3A1%3BHEIGHT%3A4mm3%3BA03B02//listtype/search/searchparam/887-43811-0376= 8

(from Germany)

those are exact replacements for the foo= tswitches which fail on
the fcb1010.

Don't know how easy the repl= acement is, I'd guess if you were
techie enough to own a solder sucker i= t'd be do-able.

andy butler

Not in the U.S. - maybe in Mumbai.

--- On Wed, 1/26/11, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:

From: Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 12:16 PM

Butch Band schrieb:
> Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, I normally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator pedal or windows.
Oh yes, you do!
http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/full_screen_v2.html
http://www.ktm-x-bow.com/

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--0-834101073-1296065422=:96231-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 18:12:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 316BE183489; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296065541; bh=DUXvirna0ndC0mB6AChr7Ptp8WmF/nf+IZR+03IhqP4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3XLkpByI3fgqSPmZI2dlk95h1V9oQdMS5lIZ2m2V3APuX8tP48TYscrX4csH33yszB9G31qmQv5iMDDaedEeN8oj26aeuit2BzNoNgYRlOqAEPde0a/VyK+r8NBijbOjb2SNn1Vms/IKQ5zbmp93CiyTYSGNmk137XtKLMHGhH8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O6JOKpHrBiMW9Uy9gVixMO7/kzUIKm+Tag++jwfbh9mPrw77gVFNn8xfw4YRWoOVwUaOgfWpfnDZIXF7dv9TvdKf+5nVWPA3HG7yQmpE8j3jv3e+nJpjetLXDYHvkSgOaeI9uI+jenmTaZ0OiftQW0csOh5Imn+T+ZaaZfnU6Bw=; Message-ID: <644723.91564.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9hhV9GwVM1n8Z5qRCW9TyOYPn49fCysNm0oHfNTN5FzbvxT E6oXLh9iVlF9wthpOGsaFJzWjM2uE2kjQM92wpYLa3sZBhoacKr8vgNC6wUE hjMw7utmxSQWk4jgmRyXctIHxP5ycT0iFSoImlrtytmnwlAUFyx2BrrFXCw8 h3KCztYrjY74YfkRfZ43HtY35bYKbrd8e9dcmVZkfFTqozLLmVDNpjRN5_Md m.ba60ZgCq88wK_7gU7hP4Y5x7yfawBvmRl2IjCwD3jYWLHOSyH2jTzdQ26m OvsBdfLcBXUq_0x6RHMWOr9sfb1C0gpIXEtMKTKPZdDqvYKBXMPyosjrthNg 1nxVPRxk- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:12:21 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8BD749DD-F866-44AF-BC0C-7A9698752022@1800dialword.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1698038392-1296065541=:91564" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:12:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-1698038392-1296065541=:91564 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, then, basically, one creates one loop (with 8 being supported on the SD= card)? Is the length of the loop dictated by the size of the SD card? I do= n't remember seeing the loop duration discussed. --- On Wed, 1/26/11, Andy Owens wrote: From: Andy Owens Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 12:34 PM Thats funny because there are several features on the LP1 that arent on the= feature list!!! Fun to find them tho!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:23 PM, andy butler wrote: > nope, > if it's not on the feature list it's > ..uh.. > not on the feature list >=20 >=20 > stomp box simple >=20 > andy >=20 > Butch Band wrote: >> Is there a way to perform a Next Loop function? I don't see any such fun= ction listed. MIDI control, perhaps? >> Butch >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Thomas Wegmann > wrote: >>=A0 =A0 Thanks guys for the information, I have ordered, this looks like = my >>=A0 =A0 kind of pedal!=A0 I hope all of you are doing well! >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0Weg >>=A0 =A0 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rick Walker >=A0 =A0 > wrote: >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, David Gans wrote: >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Where can I see more info on the LP2? >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=3DLP2 >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 LP-2=A0 Mini Looper >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 FEATURE SET: >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Double stomp box size >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 AC:=A0 9v battery or Wall Wart 9v 200ma, tip negative pow= er supply >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Onboard storage of up to 8 loops on SD card >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Audio: Mono in and Mono out=A0 =A0=A0=A0Fidelity:=A0=A0= =A016bit, 44.1khz >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 30 levels of Undo >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Feedback control (via additional expression pedal jack on= back) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 LED input VU meter >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Input and Output volume control >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Four multi functional foot controlled buttons which contr= ol >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1)=A0=A0=A0RECORD/OVERDUB/UNDO >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 2)=A0=A0=A0PLAY/STOP >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 3)=A0=A0=A0EFFECT ONE, either: >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0a) Continue=A0 (whereever a loop was sto= pped) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0b) ReTrigger (Continuous) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0c) 1/2 Speed >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0d) Replace >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0e) Q replace=A0 1/8th notes >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0f)=A0 Q replace=A0 1/12 (triplet 8ths) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0g) Q replace=A0 1/7 (7/8) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0h) Q replace=A0=A0=A01/10 (5/8 or 5/4) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4)=A0 EFFECT TWO,=A0 either: >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0a) ReTrigger (One Shot - Sample) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0b) ReTrigger (Random) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0c) 1/4 Speed >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0d) Reverse >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0e) Q replace 1/16th notes >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0f) Q replace 1/24 (triplet 16th notes) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0g) Q replace 1/9 (9/8) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0h) Q replace=A0 1/64 (Glitch mode) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Street Price:=A0=A0=A0$300=A0 (10% discount if pre-ordere= d before March >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1st release) >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Order from Bob Amstadt=A0 =A0=A0=A0bob@looperlative.com >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >>=A0 =A0 --=A0 =A0=A0=A0Greg Wegmann >>=A0 =A0 TheWeg@Verizon.net >>=A0 =A0 TheWeg@GMail.com >=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-1698038392-1296065541=:91564 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So, then, basically, one creates one loop (wi= th 8 being supported on the SD card)? Is the length of the loop dictated by= the size of the SD card? I don't remember seeing the loop duration discuss= ed.

--- On Wed, 1/26/11, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com&= gt; wrote:

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 12:34 PM

Thats funny because there are several features on th= e LP1 that arent on the feature list!!! Fun to find them tho!!

Andy = Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not = be my best!


On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:23 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wr= ote:

> nope,
> if it's not on the feature list it's
>= ..uh..
> not on the feature list
>
>
> stomp box= simple
>
> andy
>
> Butch Band wrote:
>>= ; Is there a way to perform a Next Loop function? I don't see any such func= tion listed. MIDI control, perhaps?
>> Butch
>> On Tue, J= an 25, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Thomas Wegmann <theweg@gmail.com <mailto:theweg@gmail.com>> wrote:
>&= gt;    Thanks guys for the information, I have ordered, this look= s like my
>>    kind of pedal!  I hope all of you a= re doing well!
>>         Weg
>= ;>    On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com
>>&nbs= p;   <mailto:looppool@cr= uzio.com>> wrote:
>>        On 7/22/= 64 11:59 AM, David Gans wrote:
>>         = ;   Where can I see more info on the LP2?
>>      &nbs= p; http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=3DLP2
>= >        LP-2  Mini Looper
>>  &n= bsp;     FEATURE SET:
>>        Doub= le stomp box size
>>        AC:  9v batte= ry or Wall Wart 9v 200ma, tip negative power supply
>>   = ;     Onboard storage of up to 8 loops on SD card
>>&nbs= p;       Audio: Mono in and Mono out     = ;Fidelity:   16bit, 44.1khz
>>      =   30 levels of Undo
>>        Feedback co= ntrol (via additional expression pedal jack on back)
>>  &nbs= p;     LED input VU meter
>>        Input and Output volume control
>>        Fou= r multi functional foot controlled buttons which control
>>  =       1)   RECORD/OVERDUB/UNDO
>>&nb= sp;       2)   PLAY/STOP
>>  &n= bsp;     3)   EFFECT ONE, either:
>> = ;              a) Continue  (w= hereever a loop was stopped)
>>          =      b) ReTrigger (Continuous)
>>   =            c) 1/2 Speed
>>&nbs= p;              d) Replace
>&= gt;               e) Q replace=   1/8th notes
>>            &nb= sp;  f)  Q replace  1/12 (triplet 8ths)
>>              &nb= sp;g) Q replace  1/7 (7/8)
>>        &nbs= p;      h) Q replace   1/10 (5/8 or 5/4)=
>>        4)  EFFECT TWO,  either:<= BR>>>               a) R= eTrigger (One Shot - Sample)
>>          =      b) ReTrigger (Random)
>>    &nb= sp;          c) 1/4 Speed
>>  &= nbsp;            d) Reverse
>>&= nbsp;              e) Q replace 1/1= 6th notes
>>              =  f) Q replace 1/24 (triplet 16th notes)
>>     = ;          g) Q replace 1/9 (9/8)
>>              &nb= sp;h) Q replace  1/64 (Glitch mode)
>>      &n= bsp; Street Price:   $300  (10% discount if pre-ordered= before March
>>        1st release)
>&g= t;        Order from Bob Amstadt    &nbs= p;bob@looperlative.com
= >>        <mailto:bob@looperlative.com>
>>    --&n= bsp;    Greg Wegmann
>>    TheWeg@Verizon.net
>>    = TheWeg@GMail.com
>


=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1698038392-1296065541=:91564-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 18:15:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2D8E18348E; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QrN3cQRVSO+QQC7TAEqS0SRkeEq2J70X0MqzXvz9BRw=; b=ceKV6RYenO/hU9ooclObzAnuKKw++VzUsLkJLNlz6T7G2bHqY5gPdQzG6OjKpxyYi0 0bpKvR/WHwd3yFxYMq9CtHVtbzI/1PKpQ31oXnDHc3oy6sYMtmI951k7BV+nzQjO7hNE qUtVSE/KRqSd+OM+Fy/uBHUVcT7KJX4CUX+Yw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=T5ntredJwSUblKgrwpXtnTrZfmhuG3YX4t5wOxxvt/0csNaAKvSlVdZp1Z1KVWFvM5 LeOOpBwwYje1kxYPCgLDyAE/KNNhg5wPKQGSaCTSYm146VhCjo+h+/xu2qjw50QszT3w Pq/lmgnvbb0S6BiLdT0diyOwFC9uLxk/nT/AQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:58:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: syncronizing rhythm software (mobius as master) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-hB-F.A.u2C.nSGQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:15:03 +0000 (UTC) ok,so you are saying IDrum could be slave synced to mobius master,and since mobius cannot be a host,therefore using something like LoopBE and this would be a stable setup,doing midi start stop,mute midi start,realign etc.even when changing speed in mobius ? because the EDP and a drum machine are rock solid synced this way and this is my ultimate goal,but now using software only. Jeff you are welcome to jump in on this one! thanx Luis On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> what im very interested in also is how reliable is Mobius slaving >> Ableton synced with something like LoopBE as Rainer mentioned. > > Not very reliable - if you mean that Ableton should sync as the slave > to something (?) while running Mobius as a plug-in. Ableton is a > stable host but when playing catch-up the amounts of calculations > needed to be fulfilled on a very short deadline can easily increase > too much for the given time window. > > >> with all this software isnt there any simple drum sampler out there >> that can sync reliably with mobius?? > > Mobius can not be a plugin host so that needs the software drum > sampler to follow MIDI Clock (sent out by Mobius). I would guess a lot > of the software drum samplers can do that fine. > > Myself I've been using iDrum since 2004 both as MIDI Clock slave > synced standalone application and as plugin under a host and wouldn't > hesitate to recommend it for live work. It can keep its own song > structure arrangement and switch between. iDrum is not a sampler > though, it is a Sample Player. If you are serious about a software > based drum sampler there is the new Geist from FxPansion. Native > Instrument's sampler Kontakt 4 can also double up as a drum sampler > (not sure you want both sampling and sequencing within the same drum > software, but I guessed so when writing this answer). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 18:31:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F695183498; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CV/IE641Bv40B7pb7S0Bf4rM8vpmWj9537Jw9+PAhx0=; b=Y/Fu2uCoAuOHCOQ+UC/TXzqk5b1jBx2l+5EjlqtPzgUBzv8XSl+WbvbYpiweg0gZ23 RmD33EYeILQQ/jKBSjsXTSEDEio9yYr43V6SETS4Y0N16/PGeqHK5nTCblk6OuqkvSSe q0sOjz1X0J/QNEhKnt7SSE4aRUMD/Xs5soxxY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ffu52uUtYObmJuOa0GFF3ByUtxUnl+7e7JnCNJKHG1O5ItmvvCSOq5pzZqEgPz2d1a 4Qb0m+vH5Bn2/LkqyaE24dXwhewGuxVjz4qNO0REIaib/Bj1CqpL9VSbe3Yw7HHu34WY 53KPwDENpieuo9eCcLp4HIineldAjODWtfDIc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:31:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: syncronizing rhythm software (mobius as master) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <3FfUcB.A.mpD.HiGQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:31:35 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > ok,so you are saying IDrum could be slave synced to mobius master,and > since mobius cannot be a host,therefore using something like LoopBE > and this would be a stable setup,doing midi start stop,mute midi > start,realign etc.even when changing speed in mobius ? I have not tried all those actions and can't say it would be totally stable that way when MIDI Clock synced. On a computer platform there are lots of variables that affect stability, the particular application you run is just one of them. For me it seems the CPU headroom has always been the critical aspect and my guess is that iDrum has proven more stable for me because of its low CPU consumption. Myself I never assume anything in software, it's simply not possible to state that a certain combination of applications "is stable". What I do is to try stuff out, then you know for sure if it works on your particular hardware and OS. Most apps are available as demo versions so you can really try out things before buying into them. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 18:31:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88C751834AB; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=P0Ufy+IL1h+cqb93D4knSX99rKcEN9U+fjnVHBzEits=; b=ecfTpTvKkcuEHFjP74RORcfKfUUvGmTPyGD3+pHLs7dWN5Qmcqyd8pn9uSOHZAZDYK yBOFkbz25181YuBvGu34vazbn5idET3t9dIDGGgRA5GL3ufwjvY+/EjDCjEsUy1Es2ef tU6nLRb50t5x9cSWIAkKjrH+gDyOHjAtn6V64= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xVSAA1vkoffsrpgyiAEKYPMYTKk9F4BCuUQRIpH2YucI/5x4ool+YdQQALC3H6/aLc unMj6twj3Ejf7IWpkavyqMAAppShH6YYIvOurYPfRbzm1cPK7mApDj5WptC7ilSJKcNP 176bcar/hSpZqAcSQBqSjFNaDx/7yaZk1xHbw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <644723.91564.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8BD749DD-F866-44AF-BC0C-7A9698752022@1800dialword.com> <644723.91564.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:31:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032557a3422a5e09049ac40bd3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:31:40 +0000 (UTC) --00032557a3422a5e09049ac40bd3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 According to the website: http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=LP2 "The large capacities of the SDHC cards also allow the LP2 to offer 30 levels of undo and loop lengths up to 200 seconds." I don't see anything that says how much loop memory is installed in the device. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >Paul Richards was all: >So, then, basically, one creates one loop (with 8 being supported on the SD card)? >Is the length of the loop dictated by the size of the SD card? I don't remember >seeing the loop duration discussed. --00032557a3422a5e09049ac40bd3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable According to the website:
http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=3DLP2<= /a>

"The large capacities of the SDHC cards also allow the LP2 = to offer 30 levels of undo and loop lengths up to 200 seconds."

I don't see anything that says how much loop memory is installed in= the device.

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/= user/ribosomematt


>Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> was all:
>So, then, basically, one creates one loop (with 8 being supported on th= e SD card)?
>Is the length of the loop dictated by the size of the SD= =20 card? I don't remember
>seeing the loop duration discussed.
<= br> --00032557a3422a5e09049ac40bd3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 18:55:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF95818348E; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:55:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DLaXPDWD4uSVKOlhe8I7Dd0ojUyylc4NkDEypA9EpKk=; b=d8c49aD8YLH4iMlQqzsDuef9MpHwcxrd4+NumbsLWTKh6skWfFLV/gIWmasiZlaFGW A3OGvTIYCWr2f70XFpRi7lwl10+rRHvaRq596yi528F5DmFzUWDoQ8Nb0B6TGU/SoQPb j95KaApiwvYEzJytpluy2bMe2f3J6X0IXjGbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=RsC++8InNFVgvST40KLMjwxZ2i4YEFdMYYkI+pm8PSApgLk8n8fhKeDAWkTBsIgIJi AtGOwi9RVmvDlkxD62ZJHIddXuLCsYbxSBgi5HeIPheFlpXezdJNPkwVi5F8v37Zc/7E 5N6WbKfQV6EEF5y7Oqg9+UiALsrwdV7uVS9Ew= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:55:26 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: syncronizing rhythm software (mobius as master) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd401ac487100049ac46052 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:55:28 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd401ac487100049ac46052 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 just to jump in here quickly - i use mobius hosted in bidule and send clock from mobius back to bidule via the iac bus (internal midi router for macs). i have all my plugins and two beatboxes (reaktor ensembles) in my bidule layout, synced to this clock (via the clock to sync bidule) and it's really solid. sim On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > ok,so you are saying IDrum could be slave synced to mobius master,and > > since mobius cannot be a host,therefore using something like LoopBE > > and this would be a stable setup,doing midi start stop,mute midi > > start,realign etc.even when changing speed in mobius ? > > --000e0cd401ac487100049ac46052 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just to jump in here quickly - i use mobius hosted in bidule and send clock= from mobius back to bidule via the iac bus (internal midi router for macs)= . i have all my plugins and two beatboxes (reaktor ensembles) in my bidule = layout, synced to this clock (via the clock to sync bidule) and it's re= ally solid.

sim


On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Louie Angulo<= br>
<louie.= angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
> ok,so you are saying IDrum could be slave sync= ed to mobius master,and
> since mobius cannot be a host,therefore using something like LoopBE > and this would be a stable setup,doing midi start stop,mute midi
> start,realign etc.even when changing speed in mobius ?

--000e0cd401ac487100049ac46052-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 19:20:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA3C0183481; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=djfS6tUr/kGxdtgekGBym7z9lvzSbD6+NWYwxNUkl+0=; b=l66h6q8pSOjgbrh/B/V13UCQ7HFvF6kuql2YFW2Sp5IPsnv2I1gCXjFwbEm8FFrQbC vOeqS3zGLeaaW4dk8V1NNGDEErwL/ep/t1h9vbJW9/TsqOuNU2feTfBLHQfMREawSLtq 6wkQ0KoyP203aTfrpdYKSMnZAJXzzeuplHXpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RJAf+06RR2yjdwnba+hXQ9gCMdozOj/l3SRTXtAxhqfIXw4vPJrK5UTpOfuXru0gKv oiytIVScjR9Uvz0rcuynVkKBMZPG+UjMp1c5p5OteCZ9eSZH/rscaFzHiVN+4PocgDAY snoRovHAJzUG70tB785dSBB3Z8b4BQNT+Wvw0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:20:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: syncronizing rhythm software (mobius as master) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:20:46 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > just to jump in here quickly - i use mobius hosted in bidule and send clock > from mobius back to bidule via the iac bus (internal midi router for macs). > i have all my plugins and two beatboxes (reaktor ensembles) in my bidule > layout, synced to this clock (via the clock to sync bidule) and it's really > solid. I too have found Bidule to be a very stable host (when synced to a looper). Especially under Windows XP. Bidule has its own internal sync system, maybe that's why? per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 20:24:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E292E183484; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D408309.5010406@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:24:41 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louie Angulo CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Singing and Looping was OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7wYK3.A.VFB.SMIQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:24:50 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > i was the guitar player who was forced by my brother who plays bass to > take the singer roll in our band because we could find one > i said no way i cant sing and the he said, "dont give that shit you > got no excuse,if Dylan and Lou Reed did it then you can too" > thats the beauty of rock n roll;-) > Luis So ironic, because you have the most beautiful sonorous and sensual voice, Luis. I absolutely love the quality of your voice. Much as I love them, Dylan and Lou Reed can't hold a candle to it. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 20:25:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E585183486; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D408334.1050409@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:25:24 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louie Angulo CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: stereo References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:25:31 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > so thats that make us machos for stereo...? > who started this anyway? It was that Scoots fella, apparently! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 20:29:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46ADA183483; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D408414.2020908@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:29:08 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rainer Straschill CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Singing and Looping was OT: Double Bass Looping of Led Zeppelin References: <4D3F132A.9030806@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D3F132A.9030806@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:29:16 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > In addition to being a feedback eliminator, these things (at least > those Behringer feedback things I know) can also work as parametric > EQs - which gives you (dependant on the exact model) 12 to 24 stereo > parametric EQs with a bandwidth down to 1/60 of an octave. And you can > control them via MIDI. > > So, in combination with e.g. a computer or a hardware sequencer (to > control the thing via MIDI), you got yourself a really powerful filter > bank. > > (This has actually been on the list of things to do with my Behringer > UltraCurve, which also offers this functionality, but which I had > gotten and used for live sound applications exclusively and now > somewhat retired). > > Rainer Wow, Rainer, I never thought of that................a rhythymic filter bank. I actually have a very hip Gig FX Chopper pedal which sends Midi commands with it's square or sine wave tremelo or stereo panning functionality. I"ve got to go try this out. Also, Hans Lindauer's brilliant 'Missing Link" (OSC - Midi wireless converter) might be used to send a iPhone App sequencer to it, as well. Cool! Thanks a lot, buddy! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 20:42:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31831183477; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LoopGrass References: <7B840268-E9DB-40D8-8402-E6F86781FF40@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-19--60280032"; charset="utf-8" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thread-topic: LoopGrass thread-index: Acu9mXsvvT63E40/SXOkvNZ6niFaiw== Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:41:39 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2011 20:42:07.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F1FAF60:01CBBD99] Resent-Message-ID: <05KTg.A.lxB.gcIQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:42:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-19--60280032 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/plain; 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charset=us-ascii > It wasn't me, but I am doing that. > I'm using an RC-20 and a Digitech Jamman--I brought my EDP in to the gig t= his week, but it's more setup than I want to do for the money I'm making 8( > I'm in San Diego 8) >=20 Cool Gary, what instruments? I have a crazy live setup rig, sixteen string i= nstruments and jeys and percussion. But that makes me kinda like the 900 pou= nd guy who cant get out of the house.=20 I eventually would love to use the rig to do solo and build multi instrument= tracks backing songs, getting there soon I hope.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! 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Friend at MB used to echo that to me loudly. Wonderful you got to tour Japan, I'd like to do that on= e day though goals have shifted a bit as years have gone by. Sounds like you are soaking of much goodness here from the loopedness and that's grand, it's a good place. I can join you in pretty weird fiddle sounds, it's a haunt for me that call= s and challenges. There was a young lady from Germany who looped on banjo at Y2K this last October, she actually did this bowed banjo thing, was neat. as they say keep pickin' but you don't have to grin! (sort of like don't inhale...) Jim On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Thanks Jim, yes I have known Steve Kaufman for a long time. We did a Japa= n > tour together, co-billed, it was a blast. Taught Kaufman Kamp two years a= go > and hope to be back in 2012. He is a great guy and an uncredible bizness > person, genius. > > Havent really gotten too far with Bluegrass looping, but now that I'm hap= py > with my rig and all my instrument sounds, its next. > > Cant compete with yall on making weird sounds but I would bet I'm a bette= r > banjo picker than most loopers!!! Oh wait on fiddle I can make some very > weird sounds!!! > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Jan 24, 2011, at 11:51 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > > Looping bluegrass, sounds like something John McCuen or Sam Bush would be > in to Andy, actually the thought sounds rather cool. Noticed you are > teaching or have at Steve Kaufman's camp. I got to know Steve a little b= it > when I first came in to the Mel Bay family. Don't think he would remembe= r > me now but he gave me some good input several years ago. Feels you will > bring an interesting mix into the community Andy, welcome... > > Jim > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Gary Lehmann < > gnarlyheman@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It wasn't me, but I am doing that. >> I'm using an RC-20 and a Digitech Jamman--I brought my EDP in to the gig >> this week, but it's more setup than I want to do for the money I'm makin= g 8( >> I'm in San Diego 8) >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Andy Owens < >> andy@1800dialword.com> wrote: >> >>> Howdy folks >>> >>> A few years ago I met somebody on here who was looping Bluegrass and >>> Oldtime and he had a computer based loop program. He was in northern >>> Californee, anybody remember who that is? >>> >>> Andy of the O's >>> >> >> > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com= . > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001636c5b43c1de997049ac5f47e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy that's neat, I've heard that about Steve.=A0 Friend at MB used= to echo that to me loudly.=A0 Wonderful you got to tour Japan, I'd lik= e to do that one day though goals have shifted a bit as years have gone by.=

Sounds like you are soaking of much goodness here from the loopedness a= nd that's grand, it's a good place.

I can join you in pretty= weird fiddle sounds, it's a haunt for me that calls and challenges.
There was a young lady from Germany who looped on banjo at Y2K this las= t October, she actually did this bowed banjo thing, was neat.

as the= y say keep pickin' but you don't have to grin! (sort of like don= 9;t inhale...)

Jim

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:41 PM, = Andy Owens <a= ndy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
Thanks Jim, yes I have known Steve Kaufman fo= r a long time. We did a Japan tour together, co-billed, it was a blast. Tau= ght Kaufman Kamp two years ago and hope to be back in 2012. =A0He is a grea= t guy and an uncredible bizness person, genius.=A0

Havent really gotten too far with Bluegrass looping, bu= t now that I'm happy with my rig and all my instrument sounds, its next= .=A0

Cant compete with yall on making weird sounds= but I would bet I'm a better banjo picker than most loopers!!! Oh wait= on fiddle I can make some very weird sounds!!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
S= ent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 24= , 2011, at 11:51 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Looping bluegrass, soun= ds like something John McCuen or Sam Bush would be in to Andy, actually the= thought sounds rather cool. =A0Noticed you are teaching or have at Steve K= aufman's camp. =A0I got to know Steve a little bit when I first came in= to the Mel Bay family. =A0Don't think he would remember me now but he = gave me some good input several years ago. =A0Feels you will bring an inter= esting mix into the community Andy, welcome...

Jim

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 a= t 7:07 PM, Gary Lehmann <gnarlyheman@gmail.com> wrote:
It wasn't me, but I am doing that.
I'm using an RC-20 and a Digi= tech Jamman--I brought my EDP in to the gig this week, but it's more se= tup than I want to do for the money I'm making 8(
I'm in San Die= go 8)


On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Andy Owens = <andy@1= 800dialword.com> wrote:
Howdy folks

A few years ago I met somebody on here who was looping Bluegrass and Oldtim= e and he had a computer based loop program. He was in northern Californee, = anybody remember who that is?

Andy of the O's




--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodan= dwiremusic.wordpress.com



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recor= ding by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of thi= s CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--001636c5b43c1de997049ac5f47e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 20:52:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BBDE1834A0; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D408971.4040001@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:52:01 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: rhythm sequencers software References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9gz9uD.A.WSC.3lIQNB@arsenic> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:52:07 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Not really, since RMX's random variation system - called "Chaos" - is > hard to beat. Hi, as a life long rhythmatist, drummer and percussionist, I feel compelled to weigh in on this discussion. Please forgive me as it's just my opinion; just my personal aesthetic here, but here goes: I can't stand drum machine programs that have random variations in them. To me, they do not feel realistic in the slightest because they are not how drummers really think. Not always, but a lot of times, what people desire in a real flesh and blood drummer is someone who is committed to grooving, able to perform very consistently and who will move the groove at appropriate times. I tell my drum students (and I reveal myself as a formalist) that in pop situations, that one usually doesn't want to fill except at a minimum ratio of 1 - 16. Drummers who are forever morphing their beats get fired a lot or at least tend not to get hired. The reason for this and one of the reasons why we can use static loops in lots of different musics, is that it creates a trance to play the same thing over and over with a modicum of technique and then we , deliciously, break that trance, causing tension, in order to return to the groove which causes rhythmic pleasure. The reason grooves that have randomization built into them tend not to emulate this quality of a really good grooving drummer. It's funny, and I'll probably get myself into hot water here, but I find it is usually keyboardists, guitarists and single line players who favor programs like these and Not drummers/percussionists and bass players (the people who, traditionally are assigned the task of holding down the 'bottom' of a good grooving band) and to me it always sounds unrealistic to me when I hear then used live. Randomness, or the constraint, thereof can be used effectively in programming. I do it all the time in my own drum machine programming, but I think it should be used subtley (a good example is putting a fair amount of attention to your hi hat patterns, as opposed to your filling patterns). My advice to people is to use the static quality of drum machines to your advantage: take the time to study a really good groove drummer on a couple of records you really enjoy and see if you can program a 'song' along the lines that this particular drummer uses (how frequently does he/she fill?; do the fills have anything to do with the rhythmic structure of the song?; do the fills have any rhythmic relationship to each other?). Another cool thing about human beings and patterning is that if we put 30% 'Real' into a program most people will read it as real. In other words, you can take the same kick and snare pattern and use it identically, but program 6-10 hi hat patterns that have very small changes in their programming. For example, use 16th notes and program the slightest changes into volume, cutoff frequency and timing (if your machine will allow such subtley) and then mix and match these patterns with the 'groove' of the kick and snare (and toms?) that is static. It will 'read' better. Another cool trick is to take the linear rhythm of your groove and then program a fill that plays that rhythm exactly, but changes the instruments that you use normally to play it........say toms for kicks or snares........These 'groove' fills will propel the song along and you'd be surprised at how different they will sound or feel while still, well, grooving! Of course, there are lots of musics that are not intended to 'groove'............jazzy, etc. But I think even in those forms, the great drummers had a since of form all the time and were not just randomly changing what they play, any more than a great melodic soloist randomly changes what they play. Music is about listening and responding.........or about creating something and then , after the fact, responding with other parts (we are loopers, after all so we are responding to ourselves). Why shouldn't drum parts have the same kind of interactive quality, or at least emulate it the best we can when we are forced to use pre programmed patterns. My two cents. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 21:02:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76E91183480; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D408BCE.1000905@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:02:06 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Butch Band CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4DcRgC.A.BjC.VvIQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:02:13 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote: > Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, > I normally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator > pedal or windows. Gosh, Butch, I didn't read Andy's response as sarcastic at all. This pedal has an awesome set of features for the price. Just compare it to ANYTHING in it's price range, but at $300, it doesn't do everything for everybody. It couldn't possibly. I think what Andy was getting at, is that it has the features it has and if it doesn't have the features you want, then you may need to go looking for a different product. It Is what it Is and , if I'm not mistaken, that's all Andy was saying. yours, respectfully, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 21:14:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52D25183482; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=XcJ9Ff3A7zf/4/2JK4tjB9IuSbcY0ZQLpZUrHPsji1JIRxqciVuGqLeuaJCerjJl; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <22763632.1296076442900.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:14:02 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Todd Howell Reply-To: Todd Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 303a3acd514d41c871639b933de7ae6f7e972de0d01da94078c79b64c8c7386318ea2bde0eb16a70350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.50 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:14:04 +0000 (UTC) For three hundred dollars, to have something with this many features and hand made, is amazing. The fact that you can speak directly to the creator-second to none. If it did half of the the functions indicated, it would still be a bargain. -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Walker >Sent: Jan 26, 2011 2:02 PM >To: Butch Band >Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set > >On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote: >> Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, >> I normally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator >> pedal or windows. >Gosh, Butch, > >I didn't read Andy's response as sarcastic at all. > >This pedal has an awesome set of features for the price. Just compare >it to ANYTHING in it's price range, >but at $300, it doesn't do everything for everybody. It couldn't possibly. > >I think what Andy was getting at, is that it has the features it has and >if it doesn't have the features you want, >then you may need to go looking for a different product. > >It Is what it Is and , if I'm not mistaken, that's all Andy was saying. > >yours, respectfully, > >Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 21:19:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 451A618348F; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 571832894/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.186.155/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.186.155 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar8BAAofQE1V0rqb/2dsb2JhbAAMlkzMJoVPBI9j X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,382,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="571832894" Message-ID: <4D408FEC.5050901@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:19:40 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set References: <4D408BCE.1000905@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D408BCE.1000905@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:19:46 +0000 (UTC) > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote: >> Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, >> I normally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator >> pedal or windows. hey Butch, no sarcasm intended, just the facts. I'm interested that you consider Next loop to be a basic function you'd expect on any looper. Would you care to elucidate? thanks andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 21:34:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1FAE18349B; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6i/IG77VXMbB3qB9kj6aRPH0J/YU5XsV42KM/W3Oa1A=; b=ajuY1VyNq4LYOljrB8p4YWeD0AxOx/c9nzgI2kSCLZzzX8IyTxWG/qKli5hLjLUcR9 CIt88UGQpf+cVd1oVTvEtFwef+7/3WHVPDuL7za4kYl7BJrj8xeYesYDIEyQFxF9hTbA JJzVEC66TUSb2JfNYMGKBcf6WFNQYECKfqFlY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qeh+PCzBx6+8T3LoQeO5K3fz1iw6GnCC60WpFB0HR8jq+6fBJ0dfbkzHsfOaMcI5rR 6DRk+9dbwZCOmBRBKwHbL5YxVLwUM4Fr30aNxh2g6XblSxi2WkZ7HTL60Hr2xRcnT2i6 5Y31zw0colebjtiKuJCbyv99q5f4xE4OLsWOE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D408971.4040001@cruzio.com> References: <4D408971.4040001@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:34:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:34:31 +0000 (UTC) > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Not really, since RMX's random variation system - called "Chaos" - is >> hard to beat. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Hi, =C2=A0as a life long rhythmatist, drummer and percussionist, =C2=A0I = feel > compelled to weigh in on > this discussion. =C2=A0 Please forgive me as it's just my opinion; just m= y > personal aesthetic here, but here goes: > > I can't stand drum machine programs that have random variations in them. > To me, > they do not feel realistic in the slightest because they are not how > drummers really think. Excuse me, but I don't think I used the phrase "realistic" anywhere ;-) IMHO the point in utilizing random variations for electronics is not to make it sound as if a drummer is playing - that would just be too lame and usually sounds lame too! The point in using algorithmic randomization of audio is to make it sound interesting as algorithmic randomization of audio! To be clear, what I said is that I think RMX has excellent randomization algorithms and therefore is hard to beat - in THAT field. Rick, I totally agree with your quote above and I do find the rest of your post highly interesting, as usual! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 22:32:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEBF9183478; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EU7XR6+7u+Yigf/u+qoB8dHwCitnLyG/xaIdUIVap/I=; b=Qsav9H4pbcDVjHWhgP+NzdNGlZqN+NrKeV+eWKRLVeLHl1+25Oc40VCp7UQ41NJtjl mqXRtcvNsARnJlMP+6dp9UX+BKHBaCeSgmMEB7tqUt99ZiBj4Gd1oURozLcM0xPX38/j 9xiAPsugTfjivt9Ac4oP2O5iDcdVLJSPU+NdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kKiAcsqzgPiJR6oT4n+ubk+BtWrz6wvNiz/TW3f5lYDJlU/QyKumf3U+8/VJnIytGp 8n/vLzkvPeuXcasxgKN9x7ZW10R+JyRN8uCnp7igdWv+2eujp2RR3eKz+CF3B3/YoHSP dOll1mcLUjEAU8gwsUBGUqATeubZNDVGy0Ck4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D408971.4040001@cruzio.com> References: <4D408971.4040001@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:30:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Im with you Rick,i love hypnotic grooves,(maybe thats what i liked so much about Led Zeppelin) what i m personally shooting for however is a static groove that slowly builds up and gets intense as the loops also evolve.For example a groove that starts with no hi hats or cymbals and slowly starts buliding up with other layered sounds in a very subtle way. But also what really atracted me from the Stylus RMX more than randomization is the tiem designer feature change of time signatures and variations from audio loop grooves. Even cooler is the realtime "simplify" function! Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtR109PRx46w i wonder how this would work with static 4/4 loops from the EDP,perhaps using the Stylus as master...wow! but too bad as Per mentioned that is probably too CPU heavy;-( Luis On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Not really, since RMX's random variation system - called "Chaos" - is >> hard to beat. > > Hi, =A0as a life long rhythmatist, drummer and percussionist, =A0I feel > compelled to weigh in on > this discussion. =A0 Please forgive me as it's just my opinion; just my > personal aesthetic here, but here goes: > > I can't stand drum machine programs that have random variations in them. > To me, > they do not feel realistic in the slightest because they are not how > drummers really think. > > Not always, but a lot of times, what people desire in a real flesh and bl= ood > drummer is someone who is > committed to grooving, =A0able to perform very consistently and who will = move > the groove > at appropriate times. =A0 =A0 =A0I tell my drum students (and I reveal my= self as a > formalist) that > in pop situations, that one usually doesn't want to fill except at a mini= mum > ratio of > 1 - 16. =A0 =A0 =A0Drummers who are forever morphing their beats get fire= d a lot > or at least tend not > to get hired. =A0 The reason for this and one of the reasons why we can u= se > static loops in lots of different > musics, is that it creates a trance to play the same thing over and over > with a modicum of > technique and then we , deliciously, break that trance, causing tension, = in > order to return to the > groove which causes rhythmic pleasure. > > The reason grooves that have randomization built into them tend not to > emulate this quality of a > really good grooving drummer. > It's funny, and I'll probably get myself into hot water here, but I find = it > is usually keyboardists, guitarists > and single line players who favor programs like these and Not > drummers/percussionists and bass players > (the people who, traditionally are assigned the task of holding down the > 'bottom' of a good grooving band) > and to me it always sounds unrealistic to me when I hear then used live. > > Randomness, or the constraint, thereof can be used effectively in > programming. =A0I do it all the time in my own > drum machine programming, but I think it should be used subtley (a good > example is putting a fair amount of > attention to your hi hat patterns, as opposed to your filling patterns). > > My advice to people is to use the static quality of drum machines to your > advantage: =A0 take the time to study > a really good groove drummer on a couple of records you really enjoy and = see > if you can program a 'song' > along the lines that this particular drummer uses (how frequently does > he/she fill?; =A0do the fills have anything > to do with the rhythmic structure of the song?; =A0do the fills have any > rhythmic relationship to each other?). > > Another cool thing about human beings and patterning is that if we put 30= % > 'Real' into a program most people > will read it as real. =A0 In other words, =A0you can take the same kick a= nd > snare pattern and use it identically, but > program 6-10 hi hat patterns that have very small changes in their > programming. =A0For example, =A0use > 16th notes and program the slightest changes into volume, cutoff frequenc= y > and timing (if your machine will allow > such subtley) and then mix and match these patterns with the 'groove' of = the > kick and snare (and toms?) that is > static. =A0 =A0It will 'read' better. > > Another cool trick is to take the linear rhythm of your groove and then > program a fill that plays that rhythm exactly, but changes > the instruments that you use normally to play it........say toms for kick= s > or snares........These 'groove' fills > will propel the song along and you'd be surprised at how different they w= ill > sound or feel while still, well, =A0grooving! > > Of course, there are lots of musics that are not intended to > 'groove'............jazzy, =A0etc. > But I think even in those forms, the great drummers had a since of form a= ll > the time and were not just > randomly changing what they play, =A0any more than a great melodic solois= t > randomly changes what they play. > > Music is about listening and responding.........or about creating somethi= ng > and then , after the fact, responding > with other parts (we are loopers, after all so we are responding to > ourselves). > Why shouldn't drum parts have the same kind of interactive quality, or at > least emulate it the best we can > when we are forced to use pre programmed patterns. > > My two cents. > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 22:48:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2803C183476; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5nZp/mUrzVckOxW7qvwCUdgzVx0L+ufn2mw/z2CFWQo=; b=oaFDhT3PuyWrU6suzBZtQnFoPLFeiCnhotWvVYFPS6CIZIGwDYmNiAQzBUwPHMFPRV aKEuSHs6QMVuHy07SDuHpI9AodVzL8gqeR1MNscp3OLYag4rR0JqlM0G2mitqoDAC1kq Jfx1F+XJCeTU2ysWHf9TEUuyRjYg+IWS/5QOI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BTVMGH2BvG0gZiE+nIfwgMG/bAuwQhW9ywHjxi1yuDzBIpFXStXiVhdYYJ+PT+BTj5 rtZARttaLStwpgE2N613JxThuUoTnLVTvxyU4oqpRVDG6OhwONy24lBzZZ0simvN7AYr dKWbYXCkyM96mJSufxsFsIIZhJ4WbW/K4xxTA= Message-ID: <4D40A457.6000102@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:46:47 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software - and drum programming in general References: <4D408971.4040001@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D408971.4040001@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Am 26.01.2011 21:52, schrieb Rick Walker: > will read it as real. In other words, you can take the same kick > and snare pattern and use it identically, but > program 6-10 hi hat patterns that have very small changes in their > programming. For example, use > 16th notes and program the slightest changes into volume, cutoff > frequency and timing (if your machine will allow > such subtley) and then mix and match these patterns with the 'groove' > of the kick and snare (and toms?) A story that is on the same line is that (The Police Drummer) Stewart Copeland spent a lot of the post-Police time doing highly-paid studio jobs where he would record hihat parts against the repetitive accuracy of the drums of a Linndrum. Of course, it also works if you just slightly change the drums (more specifically: the snare): a much-used approach in Drum'n'Bass/IDM is to also use a steady, programmed groove (with all the individual samples sampled from a boutique jazz or funk record), but while using the very same hihat and bassdrum sample all the time, using a great variety of different snare drum samples from throughout the song/album. my .01 ;) Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 22:54:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9E3A18347E; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1Axb8sqyz8kl9oq4QrPqh+iTqvFUmWyJaTsGsKKtIx4=; b=WuF94/qU6T1d1v/+1khXpSXNW5vmNiJQbUe5azrF1HvndzXAcmk9U3jTqssuVvMsQv d22T+CriakT/vTeQBCe0oe4nRepJ+M2Qno5ktRFJHEu/2DRSEiMtndHLzLrSJ9sMyFAB M4VXHI0O27bTEC+BohIOhZVWA/sYPGN7JCv7o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=quroRPlaUdCLnHqFap4sTGaYwyTfBnS0DWyiOkc1st+n+kE3q+mFlllNF9ANsT4HZE oh7CkhKTNitMASOp6qg4wxuu3OiW/C/NKwj5WAjDil6D5b3p9WkZhoulRB5rtyQKzrpt 2KExw+Qc9ckqQynLEtS3Y3u+4aOK9ltDACNVg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:54:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: syncronizing rhythm software (mobius as master) From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:54:45 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > just to jump in here quickly - i use mobius hosted in bidule and send clock > from mobius back to bidule via the iac bus (internal midi router for macs). > i have all my plugins and two beatboxes (reaktor ensembles) in my bidule > layout, synced to this clock (via the clock to sync bidule) and it's really > solid. That's how I have used Bidule for 2 years...rock solid. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 26 23:34:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 883A3183477; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=EE6bXC2I+XEtvyD8OsdPXMerKYINa6ofCKueAGcS9Is=; b=Y2DDopeoKFN6LF9a+iXGpE6P6yutymthCtFZBdKpBPl4eBLCdsBa5CV0Dy3npR3UG4 yOFp+EhTLJEsjBYBdKNmVn+C08mkc3Gm90kZbZ8cpSbxks2xWEiyFwk4I8vUO/xIlKMr oex8RXbA24VZPoxzclaUySew+YyLxqb2iJu9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=oTZQ5TjEP/ik2mwSUm9X6X1mxQ31mgJw8Z4c/PgEni1sFA4Nybv9kPXSm3+2mM2qJ6 vmIVdHqjNrhYrzGayR/0VJWE75Qbl5ZNXUGiZuuaQ0nI2/0wBnp2sDN8+jItNpProdNZ AMmep701XOUo3PEcTHo0HFmIpZgB1peDAkb9Y= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: syncronizing rhythm software (mobius as master) From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:34:52 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <546B821E-75EB-457F-9CF8-E2AE25718602@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Just out of curiosity is this on pc, mac or both? On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> just to jump in here quickly - i use mobius hosted in bidule and send = clock >> from mobius back to bidule via the iac bus (internal midi router for = macs). >> i have all my plugins and two beatboxes (reaktor ensembles) in my = bidule >> layout, synced to this clock (via the clock to sync bidule) and it's = really >> solid. >=20 > That's how I have used Bidule for 2 years...rock solid. >=20 > --=20 > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ >=20 Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 00:18:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C013183478; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set References: <4D408BCE.1000905@cruzio.com> <4D408FEC.5050901@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D408FEC.5050901@tiscali.co.uk> thread-topic: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set thread-index: Acu9t7qXdXug2Jb1Rradlmkq/NK71w== Message-ID: <0436AE7F-1CD3-414D-BB1E-3D7A7A69889B@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:18:08 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2011 00:18:34.0139 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC065EB0:01CBBDB7] Resent-Message-ID: <3yZxsC.A.3e.bnLQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:18:36 +0000 (UTC) How can you have next loop if'n you only got one loop?=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:19 PM, "andy butler" wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote: >>> Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, I= normally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator pedal o= r windows. >=20 > hey Butch, no sarcasm intended, just the facts. >=20 > I'm interested that you consider Next loop to be a basic function > you'd expect on any looper. >=20 >=20 > Would you care to elucidate? >=20 >=20 >=20 > thanks >=20 > andy >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 00:19:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8230A183479; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9JsAnCTMZTQcBhkNnJs1Q5lqQExlJ1m1mFg6UB4nQGs=; b=oFu0LnPHijG6NpziK38GmedVBxmWPv1JWQnErBaN7CL8ouX3P+a4BHIXLYEs+oUAkY 8i3/X/B0hcdyF3VSeqX+O9F66BzIIJ6p6ehifbkMLlS0g8ImzSZQ2IGnrrwslBSIJN1O 0kt7kZ2m0hh4jEhkStb0t0HT2YszvERmCCyos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ESDcU90ywXX/ajO+VnyG2mMcfD72shwEBy/rJ+YNzLwd9WP/sIeLcHdgQoqtU8LTGo lYB7sfig2+2GuM4zhFtr4+rVprJ2D6WuVGfmmzM/USpBh/J4Hnxr4HnDRXeuy/z8h1U/ 4n3R5b/Cw0nYvmOkJPpGHcUHirH68Zlf6DRQQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <546B821E-75EB-457F-9CF8-E2AE25718602@gmail.com> References: <546B821E-75EB-457F-9CF8-E2AE25718602@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:19:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: syncronizing rhythm software (mobius as master) From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3BaJfD.A.dj.IoLQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:19:21 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> That's how I have used Bidule for 2 years...rock solid. > Just out of curiosity is this on pc, mac or both? Hi Todd, This is on Mac -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 00:33:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C23AC18347A; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BZedRTTw3e417xVKlAXYJu/A7kGXkmzUWUQWA2hiaz8=; b=LSlkurw3O9E/WML2DCFmGM3ygRVYVoISWW5yewumSoXKZIbDUnKzCAbMUl7HW2WcxZ LznY67gEq8Q3I5OJRnXFj7xz3RxvN1Ukf6TEkY6964RdDjtmz2imfXiGj8+20rqqZblW +GX/n02yL0crZL9APriCHwFuJ6/hxQtWQU3l8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YkbLF/6pidMT8v913UutkoomJ4vznSPoy2OAk8sW6j+1UQtLQbAW3ELTHNaXn+vDkg XWdlWFaHHPjFRONpPEGGqYIwHe9thPhSxoQli3f7WY9Y0Gi8XXP6+pzadxuLpl+afEX7 xSEPDGKY0T7hJnycR7/eQ2Q61OQTPYWO3VGZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:33:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: syncronizing rhythm software (mobius as master) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:33:31 +0000 (UTC) sounds all good though i wish there were some tutorial videos of this or performances with both pushing all the sync midi functions of mobius... i really want to see how steady it is synced to grooves,i understand ambient stuff with no rhythm is no problem Luis On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> just to jump in here quickly - i use mobius hosted in bidule and send clock >> from mobius back to bidule via the iac bus (internal midi router for macs). >> i have all my plugins and two beatboxes (reaktor ensembles) in my bidule >> layout, synced to this clock (via the clock to sync bidule) and it's really >> solid. > > That's how I have used Bidule for 2 years...rock solid. > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 01:04:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64A2518347C; 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boundary="0-515879844-1296090280=:33058" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:04:43 +0000 (UTC) --0-515879844-1296090280=:33058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well.....for all you "beep and boop" loopers, that one loop might be the cat's meow but sometimes I like to do some country & western stuff when I'm not on the road so I'd like to play chorus & verse stuff. --- On Wed, 1/26/11, Andy Owens wrote: From: Andy Owens Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 4:18 PM How can you have next loop if'n you only got one loop? Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:19 PM, "andy butler" wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote: >>> Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, I normally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator pedal or windows. > > hey Butch, no sarcasm intended, just the facts. > > I'm interested that you consider Next loop to be a basic function > you'd expect on any looper. > > > Would you care to elucidate? > > > > thanks > > andy > --0-515879844-1296090280=:33058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Well.....for all you "beep and boop" loopers, that one loop might be the cat's meow but sometimes I like to do some country & western stuff when I'm not on the road so I'd like to play chorus & verse stuff.

--- On Wed, 1/26/11, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 4:18 PM

How can you have next loop if'n you only got one loop?

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:19 PM, "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote:
>>> Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, I normally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator pedal or windows.
>
> hey Butch, no sarcasm intended, just the facts.
>
> I'm interested that you consider Next loop to be a basic function
> you'd expect on any looper.
>
>
> Would you care to elucidate?
>
>
>
> thanks
>
> andy
>


--0-515879844-1296090280=:33058-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 01:31:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0169C183475; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: LoopGrass References: <7B840268-E9DB-40D8-8402-E6F86781FF40@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-23--42950058"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: LoopGrass thread-index: Acu9wdcHBMaUi9wPSYmi2VBy2ZpPLA== Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:30:29 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2011 01:31:07.0127 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE9BA070:01CBBDC1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:31:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-23--42950058 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I will probably be im SD the first week of April, let me know if your playin= g somewhere, I always have mando and or geetar if I am out on business.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Gary Lehmann wrote: > It wasn't me, but I am doing that. > I'm using an RC-20 and a Digitech Jamman--I brought my EDP in to the gig t= his week, but it's more setup than I want to do for the money I'm making 8( > I'm in San Diego 8) >=20 > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Andy Owens wrote:= > Howdy folks >=20 > A few years ago I met somebody on here who was looping Bluegrass and Oldti= me and he had a computer based loop program. He was in northern Californee, a= nybody remember who that is? >=20 > Andy of the O's >=20 --Apple-Mail-23--42950058 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I will probably be im SD the first week of April, let me know if your playing somewhere, I always have mando and or geetar if I am out on business. 

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Gary Lehmann <gnarlyheman@gmail.com> wrote:

It wasn't me, but I am doing that.
I'm using an RC-20 and a Digitech Jamman--I brought my EDP in to the gig this week, but it's more setup than I want to do for the money I'm making 8(
I'm in San Diego 8)

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
Howdy folks

A few years ago I met somebody on here who was looping Bluegrass and Oldtime and he had a computer based loop program. He was in northern Californee, anybody remember who that is?

Andy of the O's

--Apple-Mail-23--42950058-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 01:52:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0534618347C; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MnPXya+clv47gGcbbFKzuQ94C8O/UOKyWryreX0CctI=; b=kDTu2KUkeRt7MerXB1kf0ln9HwQe8YVKWtxTTkjUE2kAB8x9fqrGi1NRCabeWChIqd 0Emtl8TFbuQU9lM8QTHaHw0ZiEm2lFPjyok5i3y+GVxl1Oj4KjFio6yAsipGQVD6d6xA xlwnyPis83cSpiaReMslulxgYZmXLCm60zl60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kCUEt+dxSm/zjLHihBBM2mUGOb2/JYP1wjLUVWLPD1eVcfSOrGLk3MaLZ5NUO7oWnN DjPiw41R7NV6XuR0avOYlPcLQ/0n0FC8rU5Ui9oW7n7SRAkyHTck4bnUwOp8fKF/pbXc 5ECDaax2PchEVZ/AD7ZRRKCfUq5+FiRU3sjtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:52:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Antwerp Loopfest March 5, 2011 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, The Antwerp Loopfest for 2011 is scheduled for March 5. As last year, it's an ambient-experimental-soundscape-drone loopfest with the following line-up: Theo Travis, Aidan Baker, Yellow6, Simeon Harris, Kunst4life and Premonition Factory. So, if you're living within a reasonable distance, I can recommend this festival, not because I organise it myself, but because we have a great line-up, a very nice theater with a good atmosphere, and an excellent sound. Other than that, it's a nice opportunity to meet other loopers (also from LD) and enjoy beautiful music. Hope to see you on March 5! For tickets and info, check out the website http://livelooping.be/ -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 01:56:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0928A18347C; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Cmd2dCz0lHQc7RJteBQNECH/qxjQVrYyi7bT4t7L0DQ=; b=I4MDwmgaWC1wdLiPHFBrOm3QymGPW7s1CFjrZJcMbwXXydJcPA+RZi/wBD5jawQRZO e6a+CXYKqj6zPus04K2EBC6pr9jaJW0wGBiBZ+eUeEeP9hkfdSEQkymjhJrCImNwa6n4 jrrPGHg4oDxZIhhWCEp6pbcBF8ZJEWs4Etn+I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GfryDKKobwZdTGsSOKLPEmakPz1SX0FEGSkVHU1lLDsXTV7kJAm1RY+OrJ3qkBklGp X3X9qnG1M6IB3oNyT2TiF8+d5+cgrLug5WSMBEbH2HFrMg+z2qgoFpMJTjas8Q9uQUT3 Gg4HWVat9fV5m7kN5JgS7s1BgHCgBQdLPNfao= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:56:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest March 5, 2011 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Ohh...I forget to tell we have a stereo PA ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 03:19:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5EB918347A; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6C8354704EC145C180F2E88600FB2A82@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <29104279.24221.1296097173590.JavaMail.root@m01> In-Reply-To: <29104279.24221.1296097173590.JavaMail.root@m01> Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest March 5, 2011 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:19:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Did I miss this thread? Sjaak, are you having another looping festival in Belgium? ----- Original Message ----- > Ohh...I forget to tell we have a stereo PA ;-) > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 08:42:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5491C183478; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box thread-index: Acu9/N7ds6/hzUVbRFqDiKy8HZlnTQ== Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:33:06 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2011 08:42:18.0651 (UTC) FILETIME=[1B3CE6B0:01CBBDFE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:42:21 +0000 (UTC) If I just wanted to record or amplify certain strings, like sending bass str= ings on guitar into a Pog or other octaver for bass sounds, do these pickups= work that way or just for guitar synth? Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:54 AM, "Dean, Hal" wrote: > Kevin, >=20 > I've been dreaming of the separate strings thing for years and have been i= n regular contact with Richard McLish about his fanout. Last promise was a n= ew batch in October 2010 - didn't happen, and I don't think it ever will. Me= anwhile, I've been following Bill Baxendale's work and, although his web sit= e is awful, his posts on guitar forums made it clear he really knows what he= is doing and that people who had his stuff liked it. So, I took the plunge a= nd bought his breakout box. >=20 > I have other projects from which I can't divert too much attention to this= right now, but I've started to fool with it for an hour at a time a few nig= hts. It is really well made and works perfectly right out of the box. I have= a by now antique setup using a GI-10 and a variety of MIDI-equipped guitars= ; so far all I've tried with this is the PRS I bought from Kris H. and had G= raphtech hex pickups installed on. >=20 > Not wanting to dedicate my RME 800 to this, I routed 4 strings into open i= nputs on it and sent the other two into a Boss VF-1. =46rom there I've been e= xperimenting in a most unscientific manner, just setting up templates in Cub= ase and Reaper and adding effects to each input. Given that the signal is w= eak I've put Voxengo Boogex on each channel. The recordings have low signal= level for each individual string but when you listen to them together it is= robust. I also did a bit of mangling each track independently, normalizing,= reversing, chopping and the like. The sound quality remained excellent. >=20 > I'm sure there is a more sophisticated way to boost the signals, but I'm j= ust learning Reaper and hadn't gotten there yet. I suspect Ableton Live will= eventually prove the best program for use with this setup. >=20 > Then there is looping. I have a laptop dedicated to that (Mobius in Bidule= ), with a soundcard that does not have 6 inputs. I haven't gotten into Mobiu= s 1.43. Sometime this spring I imagine I will devote some time to learning 1= .43, taking advantage of some of the amazing script development that is happ= ening, and do all that on the desktop that I have the RME 800 on.... at whic= h point the 6 strings into Mobius would be a truly sick puppy. I'll report o= n all this from time to time. >=20 > Bill Baxendale is a real craftsman and great engineer and provided fabulou= s service. No, it is not cheap, but the breakout box is VERY cool. >=20 > As for the Unfretted project, I too was intimidated by the skill level req= uired to make it. I joined mfg.com with an eye towards "managing" production= , perhaps soliciting interest from others on this list and elsewhere, but I n= ever pursued it. You could consider taking that on. >=20 > Hal=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com]=20 > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 4:49 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box >=20 > Yeah I've been in contact with him but he's quoting something like 60 poun= ds in freight (almost $100 in shipping) so it winds up just a little bit und= er the price of the RMC Fanout box. >=20 > I'm thinking I'll be shelving this thought for a while. >=20 > Kevin >=20 > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: >> Have a look at this Kevin: >>=20 >> http://billbax.110mb.com/ >>=20 >> G >>=20 >>> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:21:51 -0800 >>> Subject: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box >>> From: billowhead@gmail.com >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>=20 >>> Hello soldier fiends, >>>=20 >>> Having looked into the basic Midi breakout boxes available for the VG=20= >>> 8, etc, I realized, I don't have $400 to buy one of these. So looking=20= >>> around I found this=20 >>> http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=3D/profs/breakout >>>=20 >>> Any of you technically inclined people have any advice on how to do=20 >>> this (for a basic novice who has soldered a thing or two but never=20 >>> built a functioning device)? I'm wondering a couple of things a), how=20= >>> feasible is this b) about how much a home brew would cost c) anyone=20 >>> with the skills willing to build one (for a fee of course). >>>=20 >>> I'm at the level where I'm not sure I could actually do anything with=20= >>> these plans but I could probably put it together if I had the parts. >>>=20 >>> Feel free to tell me I'm better off without the dream of processing=20 >>> six strings separately. I think I might be better off that way. >>> Unless one of you out there...... >>>=20 >>> Kevin >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have=20= >>> a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble. >>>=20 >>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>>=20 >>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video=20 >>> http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a fo= rm. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/use= r877640/videos >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 09:36:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90B75183478; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bjqsg7aMFXDjGFxU8sLr/r1XE92dh/Kuv6hLUCa3MpU=; b=W7kHq0yZHz9QBYe97VEvdB/YtkJHypnPLY7sfma5UQyXI/9oQhv/LyuS77X0qdEHV2 trRiMmStOZUwArwHOsY7t8wY/bNZd16C3PluucNU89IKeASdVpM1yUg7Fc8Jd3UdFp/H r4F5Yoi/0Aeb5Gy4OZa+wQX2yNs5KdjlsAznc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Z8YIHSlOf5+goy+Bb42AUw1aJT0wZNKjrf/fE+6qu5e6tYsTPBcA7KQggQxfG6vA3j Ox94HoHdhBOE8Wf4t0Hn65XvIJILDBehxOSSN2OdlIkvzeLXICbAq28usEhSrqvkghKG KKKeVHsKCWjFWIDza2fx/FEcL+4SQqLNoj9oo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:36:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: syncronizing rhythm software (mobius as master) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <5BvUgD.A.B9F.myTQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:36:39 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > sounds all good though i wish there were some tutorial videos of this > or performances with both pushing all the sync midi functions of > mobius... > i really want to see how steady it is synced to grooves,i understand > ambient stuff with no rhythm is no problem > Luis (Just some spontaneous ideas:) The most rock solid "sync" is to layer most audio into one loop. I mean, avoiding parallel applications/plugins that constantly "play catch-up" (the MIDI Clock blues). Parallel loops: Running Mobius as a slave master, i.e. not following sync, is pretty tight since it will only have the internal track sync issue to deal with. You can for example start a drum machine (or a drum loop, or a live drumming buddy) and record a two bar loop of that in Mobius. Then you turn off the source sound an hit Instant Multiply x3. You now have six bars of drums in a repeating two bar pattern. Now use Substitute to replace a short slice of the drumming close to the end of any bar; just create an extra ghost hit or a minimal fill. Then you hit Instant Multiply x3 a second time to double the length of the whole shebang and use Substitute again to replace at a different place but now with a slightly more aggressive fill. Voila! In seven seconds you have created a twelve bar loop with fills that do not sound repetitive (because they come up at different bars in the music, due to the periods of 3 bars and 12 bars). When using Substitute this way in Mobius you may also use Secondary Feedback to control how much of the old layers will be substituted. I personally like "Secondary Feedback = 64" to create a pocket in the mix for Substitute added fills etc. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 09:43:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B85FD183477; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=gc/1d80MlSdJTLdx8EHjDR3e4NlaHLnpwleK0FNqtwc=; b=iPw1ukNwSqoTa2HPSp0HfhUnpdxPZ9ED0fPc685B/s6S6TXthRTS92HPOQokBUMFME uFRd42dqmszAeoVIrIeVbUfUbhCyZMtISlMu1vfq7xhgJHSdqYigBZZDql6i0BHWdObc nTri23YguWNHaVG0DaPjaN4LlNz5jkOXB1wlY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NepJ3w+iIsI8jL4vjYoXUidXHkO07ecDN9WkhDXuMkgKB/OOmEt4t9PwvsWn5VZXPz 7YFz9k79p9DTXZfcFWhJWvUXNhiacTCBKjvuyAnZbTuSdp4DikdM1fxFCFVgu0PhPEWS VdvbtevPkuGQe9NDlY22C/0qwRBBUDZrWyNAE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:43:45 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: a couple of new Darkroom vids From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636aa2b8c26c8e6049ad0c95f Resent-Message-ID: <6fz-OC.A.yIG.S5TQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:43:46 +0000 (UTC) --001636aa2b8c26c8e6049ad0c95f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reason not to show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael Bearpark) a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132 and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728 sim --001636aa2b8c26c8e6049ad0c95f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reaso= n not to show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael Bea= rpark)

a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132

and the making of - http://vimeo.= com/16760728

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--001636aa2b8c26c8e6049ad0c95f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 10:07:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3293183478; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 568984163/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.21/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.21 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRMV/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="568984163" Message-ID: <4D4143F8.6000401@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:07:52 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set References: <278361.33058.qm@web38401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <278361.33058.qm@web38401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Elmer Fuddski wrote: > Well.....for all you "beep and boop" loopers, that one loop might be the > cat's meow but sometimes I like to do some country & western stuff when > I'm not on the road so I'd like to play chorus & verse stuff. wabbits beware! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 10:09:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78EB9183466; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=q8NPOwXE0/g0r7UmRp0r9uBU+ROApuZefLKIQP+1l6A=; b=LbUnguLuS063GfrxwxXL78wHkcuwu6N65+uc0nT0ZM/Mk9HEZ8NlrDSTx+YBtPLk5H W2wwkT5tSP/IaEJAQmYcX6E4JAMSd2uT42SIbIzpqbvsOgOxW9q+TByd4LshZ1CimBsV 07MpUZwugIP3krBtYNoTOGkx1OR4Ry48g79jM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dZE7dhsGOJowe0Mr5n/+8BU80u6bNWkgBq3XxvyaiJRYRmlhE7dP/GOE102bdlJNo/ r8v94asmHLfrcqufTS2xrGZBMPmc7wZZ1sXzAwn7CvnoywP8VND2kPQ9A56fFfs1HyAs IFerzu89ACob/nLwytwL9z4teLwxBOEfEkFwU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:09:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a couple of new Darkroom vids From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for hinting, Simeon! What lovely modular live sequencing! I like this new direction of Darkroom. Great filming too. Makes me want to follow Os' path "listening to huge amounts of jazz" giving me "a higher tolerance for strangeness in my own music" ;-) Per Boysen On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reason not to > show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael Bearpark) > > a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132 > > and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728 > > sim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 10:11:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A95D183478; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Vn2zs8eRLJgzyUgszpl21YjPQoWK8Mn4yDoK6fFWSvc=; b=XoEoLrXnJnHxz77qJhUB/Y5rLApTb/0ZNItl8NoZtLmxysfQJlyzz7XAKLcB8HX/WW ylUNxB4IFvRyGMN/gSPDiZzkmbFsEZgVCvk9wOrooAO1xdwwFMaO6FckIP+X7V37fNAQ b1gvI15ENPLmss2yQqVOJd74fmf/nPrcKzLFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=qMBznNj0rI/WLHxmRqt+Oe9EfN8sWw0YPEFaW5G51iLbM0oIfxVj0tTZu5QMVKcEGx WWXWJPgi+ViLfithCNh6MyIa9MRq+xY5CLuTmSaQnjFIcoWE79VRtBCEzKUuXupME4La C38fJ02r6YWSKKQQdAv4ahkBm2EgXsl1LD+Ws= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:11:08 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a couple of new Darkroom vids From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b919618c766049ad12b06 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:11:09 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b919618c766049ad12b06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 lol! perhaps i should listen to more pop, in the hope that it'll give me a higher tolerance for blandness in my own music...! On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Thanks for hinting, Simeon! What lovely modular live sequencing! I > like this new direction of Darkroom. Great filming too. Makes me want > to follow Os' path "listening to huge amounts of jazz" giving me "a > higher tolerance for strangeness in my own music" ;-) > > Per Boysen > > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reason not > to > > show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael Bearpark) > > > > a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132 > > > > and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728 > > > > sim > > > > --0016363b919618c766049ad12b06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol!

perhaps i should listen to more pop, in the hope that it'll= give me a higher tolerance for blandness in my own music...!


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:
Thanks for hintin= g, Simeon! What lovely modular live sequencing! I
like this new direction of Darkroom. Great filming too. Makes me want
to follow Os' path "listening to huge amounts of jazz" giving= me "a
higher tolerance for strangeness in my own music" =A0;-)

Per Boysen



On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no = reason not to
> show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael Bearpar= k)
>
> a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132
>
> and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728
>
> sim
>


--0016363b919618c766049ad12b06-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 10:21:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AB53183478; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qEYYwYDw5dM+CGkpN40Kp2wU/aGKcAVsbZQI7+UD/eo=; b=uxU8HEoDtVCPSrOGUivLMgumpJkKnHrIp5scztx2VWIoYMO/5Sx76N30o9QWwXyE3G pBXAS9ZHquFtwN872lSq25UVtV3v6EtqK22FM/Jgl8liOUAiqGb6KiwwHjEg1eo+nB5d bEJhzvVvZrw9OhlGwKMRDBuWoKzzQvMkUQ2T0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=waWAA6v0cSnnGAR0M2Xqa1+3BkULnJ9jR5JMWUmm6rzwwSqXE/kBtyAzGUJPIb4h6o ZlpdFXVGMOUC+OqJ1lbYPPjHZKnUjQJRUKdQJjmSTG61okbWffptAYXXW0zgWAF+rDrk RNSJMoKhvNooP0OkDU1uZTmbHHl0bU2aUrCqA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D4143F8.6000401@tiscali.co.uk> References: <278361.33058.qm@web38401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D4143F8.6000401@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:21:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:21:39 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:07 AM, andy butler wrote: > wabbits beware! Sorry for intervening but what is a wabbit? Sounds like "rabbit" uttered through a mouth full of carrot - but I bet that is not correct. My dictionary doesn't cover it. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 10:27:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 491E218347A; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eGnIuhTCvX4tuy3jijY8ee3nVVOTAVX2VIc0xhK6dIY=; b=LFtpu+EtfLm5m71q1wbuS2aUSNzyUAmyt7cNE2BoMX3AeB3gKHel+qGe7kLWjHAZ+m OPcDE7Qc1zSs9ebAM9dXm3lWr4wHzrhgvOAKckBLeK5gZE9fgck1KbIUTGYgWwRgXMii /rZYK0argpSgcaDSs3+iWEbZR/K/1+aMk7O3Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=A3rLIkfDiGm8HB6gIpiMLD1eWrWw6brLXuh9777G1JkNUbHN74EJ5mgUoxClMXj3tG XaSC+RxJmPb/Nwf/sldbJkjtF5QGI2wz7dURkfzvpMX7psRO+s9Ti2hO8KPuEeiNnpT3 KBNtax4Z2S5KJHKSjBgw/1WUeYiSt50Qsvux0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <278361.33058.qm@web38401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D4143F8.6000401@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:27:26 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f773b06a3862049ad16534 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:27:30 +0000 (UTC) --001485f773b06a3862049ad16534 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 lol! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxiv3CBMS4M On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:07 AM, andy butler > wrote: > > wabbits beware! > > Sorry for intervening but what is a wabbit? > Sounds like "rabbit" uttered through a mouth full of carrot - but I > bet that is not correct. My dictionary doesn't cover it. > > Per > > --001485f773b06a3862049ad16534 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol!

http:/= /www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYxiv3CBMS4M



On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Per Boysen &l= t;perboysen@gmail.com>= wrote:
On Thu, Jan 27, 2= 011 at 11:07 AM, andy butler <= akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> wabbits beware!

Sorry for intervening but what is a wabbit?
Sounds like "rabbit" uttered through a mouth full of carrot - but= I
bet that is not correct. My dictionary doesn't cover it.

Per


--001485f773b06a3862049ad16534-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 10:45:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A893183482; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 507095.83762.bm@omp1016.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=X2AZG8iq2bkoQRT6Q7moojXuxmZcu6vFQUElSCkIyx0nrpHEWZ+uu0FOcFzrLzszeEnmwc2TMWZtAdXtZwpE753IRQTOf69UaWthlXArsH2M/Jvyq2dqIyP5142BFJtOwzvEZRfDEKtPTY++WdGLIOY3mVLWKxm0/rJoum6lOJU= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1296125134; bh=DFs7S2Uzu5+MVPTxdNbjaFPK1UmajxykW3t249nBHFU=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=eRI2/1/CNy6MypqTjw8/cEsgPuxoojCYBNrztBwE+NHPPMWM1vN06y+SzAjl9In4sbHupxU7plJmjqrLWRoCEsWx1CPinhU9vzWmyiUkHj5+K6YxUpiTqPmWz3eDiIklYfY30pIDUv4RUcHkaAhn9ef5CcgSTTH8WOFJLNUkJbw= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: CpHGDEgVM1mg74_XWuOJX1O8QyE1AT6TwM9t.q3CLDlMXAP FzFsl9ft72FHlEGg3NtaRZcTYnsfSSXGdCktXhgKWbxb849Ch3wbzdqCq7th K7SEpl.ax40g9_wKGNa4lGlXlXIDov1nNch8TpSJzDAowolEcRDcqS_tx_qp a.fljK3RV0EvQa1rj8r8FypGOHk7B4jLSGyjg.qzfqqsbVdJOGMxZv7DWCIl ndWt1VTU3BHPixkdJ6jGwAGof19h11h_LLdjqqG_IXWU.l90mmNoatdzSUKN liY0c6mct07NL09LIlAj6oqI- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--9655827 Message-Id: <7786CEB3-EECC-4A2C-8E03-20932EDF124F@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: a couple of new Darkroom vids Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:45:23 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:45:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--9655827 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed This is wonderful stuff - very impressed. Enjoyed the spaces. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 27 Jan 2011, at 10:09, Per Boysen wrote: > Thanks for hinting, Simeon! What lovely modular live sequencing! I > like this new direction of Darkroom. Great filming too. Makes me want > to follow Os' path "listening to huge amounts of jazz" giving me "a > higher tolerance for strangeness in my own music" ;-) > > Per Boysen > > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no >> reason not to >> show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael >> Bearpark) >> >> a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132 >> >> and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728 >> >> sim >> > --Apple-Mail-1--9655827 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII This is wonderful stuff - very impressed. Enjoyed the = spaces.

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 27 Jan 2011, = at 10:09, Per Boysen wrote:

Thanks for hinting, Simeon! What lovely modular live = sequencing! I
like this new direction of = Darkroom. Great filming too. Makes me want
to = follow Os' path "listening to huge amounts of jazz" giving me = "a
higher tolerance for strangeness in my own = music"  ;-)

Per = Boysen



On Thu, Jan = 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Simeon Harris
i know = Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reason not = to
show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom = (Os and Michael Bearpark)

a piece recorded and videoed in = one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132

and the = making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728


=

=

= --Apple-Mail-1--9655827-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 10:48:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7383818348A; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D414D7E.1020703@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:48:30 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: rhythm sequencers software References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:48:39 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Excuse me, but I don't think I used the phrase "realistic" anywhere > ;-) IMHO the point in utilizing random variations for electronics is > not to make it sound as if a drummer is playing - that would just be > too lame and usually sounds lame too! The point in using algorithmic > randomization of audio is to make it sound interesting as algorithmic > randomization of audio! To be clear, what I said is that I think RMX > has excellent randomization algorithms and therefore is hard to beat - > in THAT field. Yeah, Per, I hear you. When I first fell in love with drum machines in the middle 70's, one of the things I did like about them is that you could play percussion that DIDN'T sound like real drumming. I think that I was trying to address a certain kind of mentality that thinks, "ooooh, static drums are bad and mechanistic feeling so if we just program a bunch of stuff into a drum machine it will sound more realistic." I've fought that mentality for all of my programming and drum studio playing career. You, of all people, I know , has a very sophisticated and forward thinking agenda in your sense of composition, so I really wasn't talking about you. So, yeah, baby, I agree with everything you said. Thanks for the clarification and I hope mine helps as well. I guess it's always good to take these dialectics to the list anyway as it stimluates a lot of thought. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 11:55:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 456FC18347C; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kL934+MXB1p3ONoVLqY6SvYDEfz+FlQdeQqrKUs9e+g=; b=C2fwo6W4yQaHDyZyDLOTuAbCrXzUjdLPGbd6AGijY1wUWZaBnp4dKC5lOYMp4m3XA1 x3PzZrQ1kL81+a3NMmhG12z6zIKkP+xvwDqoKXGISaSP/Rqh72y3nbi6Kqdu+nVbex5j d4JLR1UFzQIhTY8SoFZrfV0xPRRvuQM8g3ieo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vfyj7zaHq09/xlXuSgyIm1JOq2iDsosri0TgdXmMNpTVu1xEkTjpEUQGOxfQjWYr5x e6w0xKnnVim0InPWfYyXQSQIwo4z98/IACkmNkPqcdcCSTzlhccO230hvIeCOCGEph2m 52gxAtxZm8eYIdq/nxMPOmct/HLmjICqmMMbc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:54:59 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502dd8281ad8e049ad29e33 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:55:02 +0000 (UTC) --00504502dd8281ad8e049ad29e33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Kevin, I have a guide at the bottom of this page: http://rickygraham.com/pages/research Ricky On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > If I just wanted to record or amplify certain strings, like sending bass > strings on guitar into a Pog or other octaver for bass sounds, do these > pickups work that way or just for guitar synth? > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:54 AM, "Dean, Hal" wrote: > > > Kevin, > > > > I've been dreaming of the separate strings thing for years and have been > in regular contact with Richard McLish about his fanout. Last promise was a > new batch in October 2010 - didn't happen, and I don't think it ever will. > Meanwhile, I've been following Bill Baxendale's work and, although his web > site is awful, his posts on guitar forums made it clear he really knows what > he is doing and that people who had his stuff liked it. So, I took the > plunge and bought his breakout box. > > > > I have other projects from which I can't divert too much attention to > this right now, but I've started to fool with it for an hour at a time a few > nights. It is really well made and works perfectly right out of the box. I > have a by now antique setup using a GI-10 and a variety of MIDI-equipped > guitars; so far all I've tried with this is the PRS I bought from Kris H. > and had Graphtech hex pickups installed on. > > > > Not wanting to dedicate my RME 800 to this, I routed 4 strings into open > inputs on it and sent the other two into a Boss VF-1. From there I've been > experimenting in a most unscientific manner, just setting up templates in > Cubase and Reaper and adding effects to each input. Given that the signal > is weak I've put Voxengo Boogex on each channel. The recordings have low > signal level for each individual string but when you listen to them together > it is robust. I also did a bit of mangling each track independently, > normalizing, reversing, chopping and the like. The sound quality remained > excellent. > > > > I'm sure there is a more sophisticated way to boost the signals, but I'm > just learning Reaper and hadn't gotten there yet. I suspect Ableton Live > will eventually prove the best program for use with this setup. > > > > Then there is looping. I have a laptop dedicated to that (Mobius in > Bidule), with a soundcard that does not have 6 inputs. I haven't gotten into > Mobius 1.43. Sometime this spring I imagine I will devote some time to > learning 1.43, taking advantage of some of the amazing script development > that is happening, and do all that on the desktop that I have the RME 800 > on.... at which point the 6 strings into Mobius would be a truly sick puppy. > I'll report on all this from time to time. > > > > Bill Baxendale is a real craftsman and great engineer and provided > fabulous service. No, it is not cheap, but the breakout box is VERY cool. > > > > As for the Unfretted project, I too was intimidated by the skill level > required to make it. I joined mfg.com with an eye towards "managing" > production, perhaps soliciting interest from others on this list and > elsewhere, but I never pursued it. You could consider taking that on. > > > > Hal > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 4:49 PM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box > > > > Yeah I've been in contact with him but he's quoting something like 60 > pounds in freight (almost $100 in shipping) so it winds up just a little bit > under the price of the RMC Fanout box. > > > > I'm thinking I'll be shelving this thought for a while. > > > > Kevin > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Gareth Whittock < > buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote: > >> Have a look at this Kevin: > >> > >> http://billbax.110mb.com/ > >> > >> G > >> > >>> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:21:51 -0800 > >>> Subject: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box > >>> From: billowhead@gmail.com > >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >>> > >>> Hello soldier fiends, > >>> > >>> Having looked into the basic Midi breakout boxes available for the VG > >>> 8, etc, I realized, I don't have $400 to buy one of these. So looking > >>> around I found this > >>> http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=/profs/breakout > >>> > >>> Any of you technically inclined people have any advice on how to do > >>> this (for a basic novice who has soldered a thing or two but never > >>> built a functioning device)? I'm wondering a couple of things a), how > >>> feasible is this b) about how much a home brew would cost c) anyone > >>> with the skills willing to build one (for a fee of course). > >>> > >>> I'm at the level where I'm not sure I could actually do anything with > >>> these plans but I could probably put it together if I had the parts. > >>> > >>> Feel free to tell me I'm better off without the dream of processing > >>> six strings separately. I think I might be better off that way. > >>> Unless one of you out there...... > >>> > >>> Kevin > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have > >>> a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > >>> > >>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >>> > >>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video > >>> http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video > http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > > --00504502dd8281ad8e049ad29e33 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kevin,

I have a guide at the bottom of this page: http://rickygraham.com/pages/research

Ricky


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 a= t 8:33 AM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
If I just wanted = to record or amplify certain strings, like sending bass strings on guitar i= nto a Pog or other octaver for bass sounds, do these pickups work that way = or just for guitar synth?

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:54 AM, "Dean, Hal" <HDean@wcupa.edu> wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> I've been dreaming of the separate strings thing for years and hav= e been in regular contact with Richard McLish about his fanout. Last promis= e was a new batch in October 2010 - didn't happen, and I don't thin= k it ever will. Meanwhile, I've been following Bill Baxendale's wor= k and, although his web site is awful, his posts on guitar forums made it c= lear he really knows what he is doing and that people who had his stuff lik= ed it. So, I took the plunge and bought his breakout box.
>
> I have other projects from which I can't divert too much attention= to this right now, but I've started to fool with it for an hour at a t= ime a few nights. It is really well made and works perfectly right out of t= he box. I have a by now antique setup using a GI-10 and a variety of MIDI-e= quipped guitars; so far all I've tried with this is the PRS I bought fr= om Kris H. and had Graphtech hex pickups installed on.
>
> Not wanting to dedicate my RME 800 to this, I =A0routed 4 strings into= open inputs on it and sent the other two into a Boss VF-1. From there I= 9;ve been experimenting in a most unscientific manner, just setting up temp= lates in Cubase and Reaper and adding effects to each input. =A0Given that = the signal is weak I've put Voxengo Boogex on each channel. =A0The reco= rdings have low signal level for each individual string but when you listen= to them together it is robust. I also did a bit of mangling each track ind= ependently, normalizing, reversing, chopping and the like. The sound qualit= y remained excellent.
>
> I'm sure there is a more sophisticated way to boost the signals, b= ut I'm just learning Reaper and hadn't gotten there yet. I suspect = Ableton Live will eventually prove the best program for use with this setup= .
>
> Then there is looping. I have a laptop dedicated to that (Mobius in Bi= dule), with a soundcard that does not have 6 inputs. I haven't gotten i= nto Mobius 1.43. Sometime this spring I imagine I will devote some time to = learning 1.43, taking advantage of some of the amazing script development t= hat is happening, and do all that on the desktop that I have the RME 800 on= .... at which point the 6 strings into Mobius would be a truly sick puppy. = =A0I'll report on all this from time to time.
>
> Bill Baxendale is a real craftsman and great engineer and provided fab= ulous service. No, it is not cheap, but the breakout box is VERY cool.
>
> As for the Unfretted project, I too was intimidated by the skill level= required to make it. I joined mfg.com with an eye towards "managing" production, perhaps s= oliciting interest from others on this list and elsewhere, but I never purs= ued it. You could consider taking that on.
>
> Hal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 4:49 PM
> To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box
>
> Yeah I've been in contact with him but he's quoting something = like 60 pounds in freight (almost $100 in shipping) so it winds up just a l= ittle bit under the price of the RMC Fanout box.
>
> I'm thinking I'll be shelving this thought for a while.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
>> Have a look at this Kevin:
>>
>> http://bil= lbax.110mb.com/
>>
>> G
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:21:51 -0800
>>> Subject: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box
>>> From: billowhead@gmail= .com
>>> To: Loo= pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>
>>> Hello soldier fiends,
>>>
>>> Having looked into the basic Midi breakout boxes available for= the VG
>>> 8, etc, I realized, I don't have $400 to buy one of these.= So looking
>>> around I found this
>>> http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=3D/prof= s/breakout
>>>
>>> Any of you technically inclined people have any advice on how = to do
>>> this (for a basic novice who has soldered a thing or two but n= ever
>>> built a functioning device)? I'm wondering a couple of thi= ngs a), how
>>> feasible is this b) about how much a home brew would cost c) a= nyone
>>> with the skills willing to build one (for a fee of course). >>>
>>> I'm at the level where I'm not sure I could actually d= o anything with
>>> these plans but I could probably put it together if I had the = parts.
>>>
>>> Feel free to tell me I'm better off without the dream of p= rocessing
>>> six strings separately. I think I might be better off that way= .
>>> Unless one of you out there......
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> --
>>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and = to have
>>> a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause o= f all trouble.
>>>
>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>>>
>>> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org Video
>>> http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= .
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>


--00504502dd8281ad8e049ad29e33-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 11:56:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42237183481; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5wOF3sJ+psX2YcF7pghAfubi2oHpGiW9uQ2fRmYLqs8=; b=Ic9X9RdiVBs0H4kdxzuiM8y8D6bOAX9natxJPCwHJcngMsuyibxprmWU4eN8CI3wrM VU8zOpB6cN2DhbbVQdnxr5KsT9rXLXxKrWbdUw7+kvKW6EQZuibuWtl79qNSLBtcDswH 06Lb4Cw+MdBcPqPY73Z5CFe55VgWiJlD0gjJI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cXfJ+mCQtW7Mya0jIyvKrQ9DE3I6oSatR2/kthqsesHgmG2L/Q7RFOSCnU/rQAOcoc ADBo50/d4U0LgP8ayblmdSHRBOi0pB7TiF4S1hvnoXgqqi1RnlzmoYLv79ZOS5sUXpeb CkD9jWZdZcI8wqWjVe4YKmJu9U3LE55BMYfO4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:56:31 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34c4400d605049ad2a4e7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:56:34 +0000 (UTC) --001636d34c4400d605049ad2a4e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I may add that myself and a technician have put together our own "break-out" kits which will be available shortly at an affordable price. If you're interested, please contact me off list. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > I have a guide at the bottom of this page: > http://rickygraham.com/pages/research > > Ricky > > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > >> If I just wanted to record or amplify certain strings, like sending bass >> strings on guitar into a Pog or other octaver for bass sounds, do these >> pickups work that way or just for guitar synth? >> >> Andy Owens >> 1-800-AndyOwens >> Sent from my iPhone >> So the typing might not be my best! >> >> >> On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:54 AM, "Dean, Hal" wrote: >> >> > Kevin, >> > >> > I've been dreaming of the separate strings thing for years and have been >> in regular contact with Richard McLish about his fanout. Last promise was a >> new batch in October 2010 - didn't happen, and I don't think it ever will. >> Meanwhile, I've been following Bill Baxendale's work and, although his web >> site is awful, his posts on guitar forums made it clear he really knows what >> he is doing and that people who had his stuff liked it. So, I took the >> plunge and bought his breakout box. >> > >> > I have other projects from which I can't divert too much attention to >> this right now, but I've started to fool with it for an hour at a time a few >> nights. It is really well made and works perfectly right out of the box. I >> have a by now antique setup using a GI-10 and a variety of MIDI-equipped >> guitars; so far all I've tried with this is the PRS I bought from Kris H. >> and had Graphtech hex pickups installed on. >> > >> > Not wanting to dedicate my RME 800 to this, I routed 4 strings into >> open inputs on it and sent the other two into a Boss VF-1. From there I've >> been experimenting in a most unscientific manner, just setting up templates >> in Cubase and Reaper and adding effects to each input. Given that the >> signal is weak I've put Voxengo Boogex on each channel. The recordings have >> low signal level for each individual string but when you listen to them >> together it is robust. I also did a bit of mangling each track >> independently, normalizing, reversing, chopping and the like. The sound >> quality remained excellent. >> > >> > I'm sure there is a more sophisticated way to boost the signals, but I'm >> just learning Reaper and hadn't gotten there yet. I suspect Ableton Live >> will eventually prove the best program for use with this setup. >> > >> > Then there is looping. I have a laptop dedicated to that (Mobius in >> Bidule), with a soundcard that does not have 6 inputs. I haven't gotten into >> Mobius 1.43. Sometime this spring I imagine I will devote some time to >> learning 1.43, taking advantage of some of the amazing script development >> that is happening, and do all that on the desktop that I have the RME 800 >> on.... at which point the 6 strings into Mobius would be a truly sick puppy. >> I'll report on all this from time to time. >> > >> > Bill Baxendale is a real craftsman and great engineer and provided >> fabulous service. No, it is not cheap, but the breakout box is VERY cool. >> > >> > As for the Unfretted project, I too was intimidated by the skill level >> required to make it. I joined mfg.com with an eye towards "managing" >> production, perhaps soliciting interest from others on this list and >> elsewhere, but I never pursued it. You could consider taking that on. >> > >> > Hal >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com] >> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 4:49 PM >> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box >> > >> > Yeah I've been in contact with him but he's quoting something like 60 >> pounds in freight (almost $100 in shipping) so it winds up just a little bit >> under the price of the RMC Fanout box. >> > >> > I'm thinking I'll be shelving this thought for a while. >> > >> > Kevin >> > >> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Gareth Whittock < >> buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Have a look at this Kevin: >> >> >> >> http://billbax.110mb.com/ >> >> >> >> G >> >> >> >>> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:21:51 -0800 >> >>> Subject: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box >> >>> From: billowhead@gmail.com >> >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >>> >> >>> Hello soldier fiends, >> >>> >> >>> Having looked into the basic Midi breakout boxes available for the VG >> >>> 8, etc, I realized, I don't have $400 to buy one of these. So looking >> >>> around I found this >> >>> http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=/profs/breakout >> >>> >> >>> Any of you technically inclined people have any advice on how to do >> >>> this (for a basic novice who has soldered a thing or two but never >> >>> built a functioning device)? I'm wondering a couple of things a), how >> >>> feasible is this b) about how much a home brew would cost c) anyone >> >>> with the skills willing to build one (for a fee of course). >> >>> >> >>> I'm at the level where I'm not sure I could actually do anything with >> >>> these plans but I could probably put it together if I had the parts. >> >>> >> >>> Feel free to tell me I'm better off without the dream of processing >> >>> six strings separately. I think I might be better off that way. >> >>> Unless one of you out there...... >> >>> >> >>> Kevin >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have >> >>> a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> trouble. >> >>> >> >>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >>> >> >>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video >> >>> http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. >> > >> > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> > >> > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video >> http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> > >> >> > --001636d34c4400d605049ad2a4e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I may add that myself and a technician have put together our own "brea= k-out" kits which will be available shortly at an affordable price. If= you're interested, please contact me off list.

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
Hi Kevin,

I have a guide at the bottom of this page: http://rickygraham.com= /pages/research

Ricky



On Thu, Jan 27, 20= 11 at 8:33 AM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:=
If I just wanted = to record or amplify certain strings, like sending bass strings on guitar i= nto a Pog or other octaver for bass sounds, do these pickups work that way = or just for guitar synth?

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:54 AM, "Dean, Hal" <HDean@wcupa.edu> wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> I've been dreaming of the separate strings thing for years and hav= e been in regular contact with Richard McLish about his fanout. Last promis= e was a new batch in October 2010 - didn't happen, and I don't thin= k it ever will. Meanwhile, I've been following Bill Baxendale's wor= k and, although his web site is awful, his posts on guitar forums made it c= lear he really knows what he is doing and that people who had his stuff lik= ed it. So, I took the plunge and bought his breakout box.
>
> I have other projects from which I can't divert too much attention= to this right now, but I've started to fool with it for an hour at a t= ime a few nights. It is really well made and works perfectly right out of t= he box. I have a by now antique setup using a GI-10 and a variety of MIDI-e= quipped guitars; so far all I've tried with this is the PRS I bought fr= om Kris H. and had Graphtech hex pickups installed on.
>
> Not wanting to dedicate my RME 800 to this, I =A0routed 4 strings into= open inputs on it and sent the other two into a Boss VF-1. From there I= 9;ve been experimenting in a most unscientific manner, just setting up temp= lates in Cubase and Reaper and adding effects to each input. =A0Given that = the signal is weak I've put Voxengo Boogex on each channel. =A0The reco= rdings have low signal level for each individual string but when you listen= to them together it is robust. I also did a bit of mangling each track ind= ependently, normalizing, reversing, chopping and the like. The sound qualit= y remained excellent.
>
> I'm sure there is a more sophisticated way to boost the signals, b= ut I'm just learning Reaper and hadn't gotten there yet. I suspect = Ableton Live will eventually prove the best program for use with this setup= .
>
> Then there is looping. I have a laptop dedicated to that (Mobius in Bi= dule), with a soundcard that does not have 6 inputs. I haven't gotten i= nto Mobius 1.43. Sometime this spring I imagine I will devote some time to = learning 1.43, taking advantage of some of the amazing script development t= hat is happening, and do all that on the desktop that I have the RME 800 on= .... at which point the 6 strings into Mobius would be a truly sick puppy. = =A0I'll report on all this from time to time.
>
> Bill Baxendale is a real craftsman and great engineer and provided fab= ulous service. No, it is not cheap, but the breakout box is VERY cool.
>
> As for the Unfretted project, I too was intimidated by the skill level= required to make it. I joined mfg.com with an eye towards "managing" production, perhaps s= oliciting interest from others on this list and elsewhere, but I never purs= ued it. You could consider taking that on.
>
> Hal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 4:49 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box
>
> Yeah I've been in contact with him but he's quoting something = like 60 pounds in freight (almost $100 in shipping) so it winds up just a l= ittle bit under the price of the RMC Fanout box.
>
> I'm thinking I'll be shelving this thought for a while.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk&g= t; wrote:
>> Have a look at this Kevin:
>>
>> http://bil= lbax.110mb.com/
>>
>> G
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:21:51 -0800
>>> Subject: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box
>>> From: billowhead@gmail.com
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>
>>> Hello soldier fiends,
>>>
>>> Having looked into the basic Midi breakout boxes available for= the VG
>>> 8, etc, I realized, I don't have $400 to buy one of these.= So looking
>>> around I found this
>>> http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=3D/prof= s/breakout
>>>
>>> Any of you technically inclined people have any advice on how = to do
>>> this (for a basic novice who has soldered a thing or two but n= ever
>>> built a functioning device)? I'm wondering a couple of thi= ngs a), how
>>> feasible is this b) about how much a home brew would cost c) a= nyone
>>> with the skills willing to build one (for a fee of course). >>>
>>> I'm at the level where I'm not sure I could actually d= o anything with
>>> these plans but I could probably put it together if I had the = parts.
>>>
>>> Feel free to tell me I'm better off without the dream of p= rocessing
>>> six strings separately. I think I might be better off that way= .
>>> Unless one of you out there......
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> --
>>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and = to have
>>> a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause o= f all trouble.
>>>
>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>>>
>>> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org Video
>>> http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= .
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>



--001636d34c4400d605049ad2a4e7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 12:18:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7369F18347E; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yjrSGJ+2V5UdEPs8cPeI9xebZsoLFTDgxc1va3exdwU=; b=j9XoRyatgBb2PJmf6c9lON1IysU5kwHSPGYtVmBqTuQO1NvVV6vmxtC/dqhbRjPm7/ nXhogn47ridyi2uFFf07tv14yF2l0SDbsBU+6yzyEVubnxtyO5JvMB9BTOX53xc9PhJG H/aU4UMMKHAu24kBl7xWK/vs1PoCQSzSXP/7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ifTta7stBNQwR+Ky8N/lHaNQsfL01AHslOKw5qsxYK22M4kIxmlTRFDVxpIv47ZQ9A 6SNFAXjfOMeOGllUci5CMNWsYJvL/L708xcn23YHZtDIx5v26wL7LhusD235m9DZl7Ej XjiJeIyhHpxya4WFvail80l8Ij/uMuv3Rz8us= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6C8354704EC145C180F2E88600FB2A82@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <29104279.24221.1296097173590.JavaMail.root@m01> <6C8354704EC145C180F2E88600FB2A82@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:18:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest March 5, 2011 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:18:21 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Kris Hartung wr= ote: > Did I miss this thread? =A0Sjaak, are you having another looping festival= in > Belgium? Hi Kris, Yep, I organize a loopfest every year. It all started in 2009, this is the 3rd one in a row. The formula differs from Y2K btw. It's much smaller, with the focus on ambient related music, 6 artists max. It's not an LD party only; for example, both Theo Travis and Aidan Baker are professional musicians who use loopers but I doubt if they know about the LD community at all ;-) Theo has played on studio albums of artists such as David Sylvian, Robert Fripp, Porcupine Tree etc so I'm very happy he's playing in Antwerp this year. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 12:38:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8710A18347D; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vJ0XmuDge5Fomf7yDDvlQF0LZi1Upw7hDawIA1yRKS0=; b=CLYVl40IqZHgEnRN4CQQhJHynIAPt+ujFWDoYR5+oJ2GppnZe/kHwuCUxjzHaT6HDs 6OUqVNtLxLbXEh1ShtFbwi7GFHmjnOaJPPC5+iaj+AxwSxfhswoIYvlw311Ssbhi1ntQ e8ehhdc1NcW0cyG/cyXtArLhNNE/Mjpi4KLIM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rzg95H+R+fdOJzP2IRrgMaq99fGu3mxVsYagihqUiFpvVimTBXIJozNuFAC40/gqIQ zN1zmAXtez+/5ScolXHo+3VhVhELHcxFiXl+Kw0IE6JwpXQso2c+bi/Zl0NkY4gtj6er tfVjntdABdkphd+/tGWPiepTm3xVNoeeCtfUc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:38:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:38:27 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > I have a guide at the bottom of this page: > http://rickygraham.com/pages/research Interesting reading! The audio clips at the botton are nice too :-)) In the 80ths/90ths I played some MIDI guitar and researched the concept of having unique sounds for each string, then by using samplers and synths. Since ten years back I've been toying with the idea of migrating this project into using separate real string sound outputs and unique effect processing for each string. But last year I decided to, for now, follow a *duophonic" route rather than *polyphonic* (like Hal's idea about routing a bunch of strings into a shared output). In my case I picked up a Chapman Stick, that is duophonic in that it routes each one of two six stringed fretboards out its own dedicated output. What I like in this solution is to be able to play with the electro magnetic pickup tone I love so much, to have the option of balancing up to six string clusters through the same output compression, or other effects, while still combining two separate effect processing chains. Finally the for me new experience of playing two handed - tonally improvising "ensamble style" like piano players and harpists can do and rhythmically by exploring poly rhythmic two hand patterns normally utilized by drummers. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 12:52:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E42E118347B; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 572027896/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.21/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.21 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsABAMb4QE1YbRMV/2dsb2JhbAAMllPKQIVPBI9f X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,385,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="572027896" Message-ID: <4D416A97.20701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:52:39 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set References: <4D408BCE.1000905@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D408BCE.1000905@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:52:32 +0000 (UTC) I wonder if the "storage of 8 loops" on the SD card causes confusion. I understand it that this is simply a way to create some sort of a record of a performance. (Rick?) ..but maybe it will be *expected* that the stored loops can be played back by the unit. andy Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote: >> Thank you for your sarcastic response but if I purchase an automobile, >> I normally don't need to check for basic features like an accelerator >> pedal or windows. > Gosh, Butch, > > I didn't read Andy's response as sarcastic at all. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 13:06:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC22418347B; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D416DD1.7040907@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 05:06:25 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louie Angulo CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: rhythm sequencers software References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:06:35 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Watch this video: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR109PRx46w > > i wonder how this would work with static 4/4 loops from the > EDP,perhaps using the Stylus as master...wow! > but too bad as Per mentioned that is probably too CPU heavy;-( > Luis Very hip demo. I wonder what you could do with melodic loops. You might be able to come up with some killer changes........or does Stylus only work with it's own proprietary loops? rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 13:20:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EA3F18347B; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DtGeET9w1JCvQNXVOgepbe8KW5JvwEzlcgJdGHetYOQ=; b=hvXVym45r0iHgrz+DcEFhQ4sWcZqoRDI+yFj3uyuERpuoexEod2JC8Kov1oI2Beyr3 d3uUJOSKwAN69EMdCF23Gk0NUljSyWjhtdHkY8kWDlEX6k/2ur/y/et2om7KzWqZoeoo Kh6PPsCN9m/Xmqz83YsfOGgD3xzzR/V7DdWXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OpIxS3kpDlZE7VeKccFayYIGruPv99n8z0GoZfQbPulscsxwSEY36n94537DSEOodo 97xN4AhC+j3Z+F6d3sZRfDsUBqewuXH6NwR3WAiOb47ynP92ySzAJtdd/S5LHZpseorc YFuQcmgOFI0JkF/+BnqjQcfaZ9WxZ89R5S5rI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D416DD1.7040907@cruzio.com> References: <4D416DD1.7040907@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:20:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:20:39 +0000 (UTC) >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtR109PRx46w >> >> Luis On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Very hip demo. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I wonder what you could do with melodic loop= s. > You might be able to come up with some killer changes........or does > Stylus only work with it's own proprietary loops? > You can build your own source loop library for RMX. To do that you need to first save your own loops as REX files (ReCycle does that) before being able to import them into your RMX User Library. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 13:24:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD2F618347B; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qnbojBQBVSKXtv0P7xqta69p0sS84Lf1rZ6KnhFcx+Q=; b=HAxs27B/W3eiC/Hun9akmT5Vk39sultLQ7SlsFxEaDMkmlCFY+36lN7CQaKf5A8kq+ wq8s20OqMA8e5yOrmaFavvcZ+K1uO8690T3DzLrtxhz0Tx2PrSDgd/lzWtEWQt3LsGMl KX51kFl4KrPtp0oGOfrjWjplwE0ZTw8EXgmF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HRuLji/kw5kireMz+toVyM3X1ix3pT7rWdPs6OzyK0YDAuLEoEeCKpAUioJntZvids seTb5G/R6YUl368dWxUE0PZuRdP5JOl5fGL5xeXYn0Pzcltf4UQMMtRVtjd0kbcmFlMt 3YBlbocCk8QeMto+1QRaZhd/Www22PxHnTne8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D3E0AF2.2050905@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:24:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: fianlly a video of using mobius and ableton! From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Hey brother Luis :) IAC will do the trick, got this tip from Per Boysen 2 years ago. You can selecting the IAC port in Mobius to send out midi clock. Select IAC as in input midi port in the Live 8 midi preferences. Btw: I don't use sync myself, but when an audio clip in Live is running in warp mode, it will sync to it's internal or external midi clock. Just tested it by changing the tempo from an external arpeggiator sending out midi clock. The audio clips are time strechted, the pitch remains the same and are running in sync. Btw: you can download a fully functional trial version of Live8 for 30 days. Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 13:41:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F5DB18347A; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <29104279.24221.1296097173590.JavaMail.root@m01><6C8354704EC145C180F2E88600FB2A82@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest March 5, 2011 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:40:52 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:41:04 +0000 (UTC) ?In 2012 I'd love to take part if possible from your end, Sjaak... -----Original Message----- From: Sjaak Overgaauw Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:18 PM To: LD Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest March 5, 2011 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Kris Hartung wrote: > Did I miss this thread? Sjaak, are you having another looping festival in > Belgium? Hi Kris, Yep, I organize a loopfest every year. It all started in 2009, this is the 3rd one in a row. The formula differs from Y2K btw. It's much smaller, with the focus on ambient related music, 6 artists max. It's not an LD party only; for example, both Theo Travis and Aidan Baker are professional musicians who use loopers but I doubt if they know about the LD community at all ;-) Theo has played on studio albums of artists such as David Sylvian, Robert Fripp, Porcupine Tree etc so I'm very happy he's playing in Antwerp this year. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 14:03:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C74618347B; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CuamuT1WljOyOAWNI9NNojqvGqRRW3TwGOkPK792qxo=; b=Fbx4wMZBLAMB0ql4VHU31fsk1DElsgOdn402MUPoFG8fcocmrWjd8FIpNDnBDYf7/B 4T7cgoCvVTk4REI7yeigC04YnwqELOErc1IjePZjOrfWg7RJf/Cq/hA8m7lhaF5QZuZH TRxRFGe7pzQ2kPucc5b/f8fN/KOa8WIfN9+o0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SFChAb64gZa1Pi8Er7j/Cgu51bn/Q78WmTZh2Va71zYisR1lmxcOcNPvOnDGm/03Ol NZk9mAz5QaNvRmjXYG2q6F+A6Up2nIFa802QcUbBoEl2Q05bWovOpVrLoSfMfEMZF8Su axKnBJv7TEpNDxmls0Ob+Hd5dJ5qGIW9vfPkw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:03:20 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34c44824b25049ad46985 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:03:22 +0000 (UTC) --001636d34c44824b25049ad46985 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sounds great, Per. I hope to invest in a Chapman stick down the line. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Ricky Graham > wrote: > > I have a guide at the bottom of this page: > > http://rickygraham.com/pages/research > > > Interesting reading! The audio clips at the botton are nice too :-)) > In the 80ths/90ths I played some MIDI guitar and researched the > concept of having unique sounds for each string, then by using > samplers and synths. Since ten years back I've been toying with the > idea of migrating this project into using separate real string sound > outputs and unique effect processing for each string. But last year I > decided to, for now, follow a *duophonic" route rather than > *polyphonic* (like Hal's idea about routing a bunch of strings into a > shared output). In my case I picked up a Chapman Stick, that is > duophonic in that it routes each one of two six stringed fretboards > out its own dedicated output. What I like in this solution is to be > able to play with the electro magnetic pickup tone I love so much, to > have the option of balancing up to six string clusters through the > same output compression, or other effects, while still combining two > separate effect processing chains. Finally the for me new experience > of playing two handed - tonally improvising "ensamble style" like > piano players and harpists can do and rhythmically by exploring poly > rhythmic two hand patterns normally utilized by drummers. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --001636d34c44824b25049ad46985 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds great, Per. I hope to invest in a Chapman stick down the line.
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Per Boysen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><perboysen@gmail= .com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Ricky Graham
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> I have a guide at the bottom of this page:
> ht= tp://rickygraham.com/pages/research


Interesting reading! The audio clips at the botton are nice too :-))<= br> In the 80ths/90ths I played some MIDI guitar and researched the
concept of having unique sounds for each string, then by using
samplers and synths. Since ten years back I've been toying with the
idea of migrating this project into using separate real string sound
outputs and unique effect processing for each string. But last year I
decided to, for now, follow a *duophonic" route rather than
*polyphonic* (like Hal's idea about routing a bunch of strings into a shared output). In my case I picked up a Chapman Stick, that is
duophonic in that it routes each one of two six stringed fretboards
out its own dedicated output. What I like in this solution is to be
able to play with the electro magnetic pickup tone I love so much, to
have the option of balancing up to six string clusters through the
same output compression, or other effects, while still combining two
separate effect processing chains. Finally the for me new experience
of playing two handed =A0- tonally improvising "ensamble style" l= ike
piano players and harpists can do and rhythmically by exploring poly
rhythmic two hand patterns normally utilized by drummers.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--001636d34c44824b25049ad46985-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 14:37:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34001183478; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:37:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vbJnpiwX5PX2LsFqc767JggZXNqIUYrTB22Sa3MXG2Y=; b=rDszhIn5c5t1Zvpx4rIA7uLlQNdW5BS7VjRwXYrNbXSVoWfNfh77rw6MrgDCsxmcx4 jYVScES10ryoHIjNh8MI8oAEbqyq7tGwajI1sVfHna+JGX/AXy+/OD9JFhEAfDkSjzGW 4pxwvEoyNCBGBgWbhGABaNNwrYzIg827D0bhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sFUUz/ChHpQdJC/F1xewwKIuOS7lq9i4XGlvG1hTlfwqagQW+MkPKQG7yKpedP22Tz yrpIgTZJwTRjSc9l5TfPiKg4dfDZEVLa23gG6C9A76OBprp8fHNflYmhiWdHdQyx6ki5 Lxo1DTa99BqMr+q7vOEgJecCfAa3RAQrWtDGg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:37:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <5oa0xD.A.-PF.qMYQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:37:30 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: . > I guess what im looking for is something you can load your own drum > samples or loops,or that has great drum sounds or grooves with random > variations so the grooves that arent static and that could work stable > when slaved syncronized to mobius. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > I guess what im looking for is something you can load your own drum > samples or loops,or that has great drum sounds or grooves with random > variations so the grooves that arent static and that could work stable > when slaved syncronized to mobius Luis, What I forgot to tell is that you can apply grooves to audio clips. Might be interesting to check it out. Quote: "New groove engine - Groove patterns can add life and swing to straight sequences. Live 8's new groove engine lets you apply groove patterns in real time, extract grooves from audio or MIDI sources, quantize audio and MIDI in real time. It also comes with a new groove library" Source: http://www.ableton.com/live-8-whats-new -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 14:53:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F9F4183477; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xw85I2LqB0QA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=EtNr3oBcfrToTrx2dJQA:9 a=IO2sjGh4oT6r-h_n_E0rtxCK4FEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=R-oGKTGf21QA:10 a=hpY3Qg3wT-0A:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: a couple of new Darkroom vids Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:53:31 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Very nice. On Jan 27, 2011, at 1:43 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reason > not to show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and > Michael Bearpark) > > a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132 > > and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728 > > sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 16:15:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DB50183477; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MIrVZ4vglUdPMbE12wiwbX4/s56v5HlLAZ+5ghAdrPk=; b=relGe2glbcssn9gXkDPCA3na23WZkFcsxTMZkdNo4lK8f8i2UE5WKuBpizz9FEl6hj Dz4p8+rWQ4q2MZKEAqIsil9gIMzXet8baIWdzQx9YlooaM7WvwAi0lczelAE+ZBeqreB WBL2BPXlLySAY9SGl2R7jFW9XvVD8SZeVDmRs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xmDaZnbNx/mNvByvS7CTTnNJiWC1B5YIP2/RsVDAhdxUElGPFwDZIJPjtqN1X2v4NK AW4ACx+qlcd0HC37UM1nTuQ7s+UofvGSaIc2LAZicqeyizB6ahIlpQjTiLbQp6NUPoHb euvdvr66XSitoaISCQ6/5LKAzcBRwDcdpPj/w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:15:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a couple of new Darkroom vids From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a203b8ddad049ad64110 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:15:25 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a203b8ddad049ad64110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really excellent work Os and Michael. Simeon thanks for passing these pieces along. I commented on both on Vimeo but particularly as I noted, enjoyed the contrast between lyricism and pulse in the music piece. The imagery angles and views in both the documentary and performance were very cool. Michael I'm glad I had the chance to NinJam with you a few years ago= , actually it was one of my very first NinJams. Jim On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reason not = to > show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael Bearpark) > > a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132 > > and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728 > > sim > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a203b8ddad049ad64110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really excellent work Os and Michael.=A0 Simeon thanks for passing these pi= eces along.=A0 I commented on both on Vimeo but particularly as I noted, en= joyed the contrast between lyricism and pulse in the music piece.=A0 The im= agery angles and views in both the documentary and performance were very co= ol.=A0 Michael I'm glad I had the chance to NinJam with you a few years= ago, actually it was one of my very first NinJams.

Jim

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:43 AM, = Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reaso= n not to show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael Bea= rpark)

a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132

and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728

sim



--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a203b8ddad049ad64110-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 17:03:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2FA2183479; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Bl/LRchlnc10o30rKa50lBKMzQNxJ9TL94+72jH3vAc=; b=U82xnuU6qxT7/3oh8sWYHSVDJC51HY638hLrDwgTohG8smrZJIHonQseUweNERSJS2 WiaKqbMPqNWJ7g7gKzxQohZqAH9cjWeF/89boPkqBgwrW4xWhsXJnuLT8EaDaiQ8MVtE vsR27VR6pGLgso9KLSgqCIkFmqEHW6kjwbdhs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FosdC9NA93pIfWMYbIJ1hyYpIYArhl6frL7ZoKjjt2/UfVUBp8C2rPuGymwi5StQvI so+MuzMom6cwbE9JZntUmkkO0OLlmnUWso93xxG38455tn2GBUb/cBJVrfcmvHod6O3d 38zBNc3+r8p/jLlmrBLF0G/24Xt2FL6dF//fI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:03:43 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lUvS5iFm1mj6jMIjpsEaYHJp5uU Message-ID: Subject: Re: a couple of new Darkroom vids From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8d7897ca82049ad6ee8a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:03:45 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8d7897ca82049ad6ee8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (*i apologize if this is a double, my email's been acting funky*) Dearest Looping Brethren, Daniel Harris of Boston, MA (USA) here. Aside from my looping love and linguistic allegiances, I am also an active artist-for-hire on the Boston scene. I typically do concert posters but have also done t-shirt designs, album art, stickers and buttons. I'm easy to work with, accommodating and incredibly serious about the work = I do. Here are links to work some I've done... Etsy shop: http://www.etsy.com/shop/danielharris Concert posters: http://theanorexicfoodcritic.blogspot.com/2010/10/does-your-band-need-show-= poster.html Album art: http://www.myspace.com/danielhmusic/photos/albums/album/1987835#mssrc=3DSit= esPhotos_SP_AlbumCover_ViewAlbum If you're looking for art for your band, project or even your walls, please drop me a line! best, Daniel www.danielharris.bandcamp.com On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > Really excellent work Os and Michael. Simeon thanks for passing these > pieces along. I commented on both on Vimeo but particularly as I noted, > enjoyed the contrast between lyricism and pulse in the music piece. The > imagery angles and views in both the documentary and performance were ver= y > cool. Michael I'm glad I had the chance to NinJam with you a few years a= go, > actually it was one of my very first NinJams. > > Jim > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reason not >> to show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael Bearpa= rk) >> >> a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132 >> >> and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728 >> >> sim >> > > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --90e6ba6e8d7897ca82049ad6ee8a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (*i apologize if this is a double, my email's been acting funky*)
<= br>Dearest Looping Brethren,

Daniel Harris of Boston, MA (USA)=20 here. Aside from my looping love and linguistic allegiances, I am also=20 an active artist-for-hire on the Boston scene. I typically do concert=20 posters but have also done t-shirt designs, album art, stickers and=20 buttons.=A0

I'm easy to work with, accommodating and incredibly serious about t= he work I do.

Here are links to work some I've done...

E= tsy shop: http://www.etsy.com/shop/danielharris

Concert posters: http://thean= orexicfoodcritic.blogspot.com/2010/10/does-your-band-need-show-poster.html<= /a>

Album art: http://www.myspace.com/danielhmusic/photos/albums/album/1987835#mssrc=3D= SitesPhotos_SP_AlbumCover_ViewAlbum


If you're looking for art for your band, project or even your w= alls, please drop me a line!


best,
D= aniel
www.danielharris.bandcamp.com


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:15 AM,= Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Really excellent work Os and Michael.=A0 Simeon thanks for passing these pi= eces along.=A0 I commented on both on Vimeo but particularly as I noted, en= joyed the contrast between lyricism and pulse in the music piece.=A0 The im= agery angles and views in both the documentary and performance were very co= ol.=A0 Michael I'm glad I had the chance to NinJam with you a few years= ago, actually it was one of my very first NinJams.

Jim


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris4= 0@googlemail.com> wrote:
i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reaso= n not to show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael Bea= rpark)

a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132

and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728

sim



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz record= ing by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this= CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com

--90e6ba6e8d7897ca82049ad6ee8a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 18:30:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C30218347A; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: a couple of new Darkroom vids Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:30:24 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33124-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD8C6765DB8528-CC0-108C7@webmail-d046.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: <1_9tXB.A._SC.MnbQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:30:36 +0000 (UTC) nice! i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reason=20 not to show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael=20 Bearpark) a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132 and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728 sim =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 18:52:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08176183479; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: a couple of new Darkroom vids References: <8CD8C6765DB8528-CC0-108C7@webmail-d046.sysops.aol.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <8CD8C6765DB8528-CC0-108C7@webmail-d046.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8EE238B2-CF83-4298-98C3-8C0BA8572BAF@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: a couple of new Darkroom vids Thread-Index: Acu+UzolcVGdk1ZOQB+pjxca9n7Swg== Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:51:17 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2011 18:52:01.0241 (UTC) FILETIME=[48292490:01CBBE53] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Heck yeah that is some nice beeping and booping there!!! Very good job on th= e video too.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 27, 2011, at 1:30 PM, "nemoguitt@aol.com" wrote: >=20 > nice! >=20 >=20 >=20 > i know Os isn't one to promote himself unduly, but there's no reason not t= o show these on here. two new vids from Darkroom (Os and Michael Bearpark) >=20 > a piece recorded and videoed in one day - http://vimeo.com/16620132 >=20 > and the making of - http://vimeo.com/16760728 >=20 > sim >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 20:38:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B031218347A; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D41D7C9.10106@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:38:33 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sjaak Overgaauw CC: LD Subject: Re: Re: Antwerp Loopfest March 5, 2011 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:38:44 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > both Theo Travis and Aidan Baker > are professional musicians who use loopers but I doubt if they know > about the LD community at all;-) Theo has played on studio albums of > artists such as David Sylvian, Robert Fripp, Porcupine Tree etc so I'm > very happy he's playing in Antwerp this year. Theo played the 1st Cambridge Live Looping Festival in 2003 and was both a great guy and a really fantastic performer. He's firing on all cylinders as an artist. It's great you snagged him for the festival, Sjaak. I wish I could be there to see it. Great lineup, buddy!!! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 20:41:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9712718347D; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D41D860.8060109@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:41:04 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set References: <4D416A97.20701@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D416A97.20701@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000800080009050805030207" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:41:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000800080009050805030207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > I wonder if the "storage of 8 loops" on the SD card > causes confusion. > > I understand it that this is simply a way to create some sort of a > record of a performance. (Rick?) > ..but maybe it will be *expected* that the stored loops > can be played back by the unit. > > andy This is actually a feature that Bob Amstadt added and, frankly, I haven't used it yet, so we should get him to weigh in on this one to get the correct 'poop on the sitch'. rick walker ps I do know, however that it records and stores what you are playing automatically which is very nice as you don't have to think about doing something formally to save your loops that you are creating. --------------000800080009050805030207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
I wonder if the "storage of 8 loops" on the SD card
causes confusion.

I understand it that this is simply a way to create some sort of a record of a performance. (Rick?)
..but maybe it will be *expected* that the stored loops
can be played back by the unit.

andy
This is actually a feature that Bob Amstadt added and, frankly,  I haven't used it yet,
so we should get him to weigh in on this one to get the correct 'poop on the sitch'.

rick walker

ps I do know, however that it records and stores what you are playing automatically which is very nice
as you don't have to think about doing something formally to save your loops that you are creating.
--------------000800080009050805030207-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 23:17:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3D6118347A; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=EjFNgWFwLSKK3BQp+RyLYD1s61uRRPf4Z6sYtrIIv2E=; b=SVUwdtXEBuWgUYH055HyrCEgUpJGaVnKsGQddtyKDMKq/AhQ3/8bY602ekAPIUCAfW dz+wgJZyIb70+FN23tkmMsZaZYaNH86LlHb/wcM8nNHiLbvwsR49QC+RksNc/MvhAlXB TpBKHHZwWC/WSSRgPOeA2h8kyJp9zJT+fAkbk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YO55lRbbCxKUPgmdHs0iM50bbcOUOjqHvNDDkovV/pXIpZzuztY7mcb6ShY7isZ3AQ 0GHxqSjCTx2xJUjxBNTCIRr9nbavNh+TDhx8/+Wkp5T7gJxP+jgTw66XQ+T9VAlxeNH9 U4FRJemqEBuHWzmTRhlwaGS7zui5oSB6Vzcns= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:16:55 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YADcIJqKwgzhKosR-KKUsOZo2ug Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305496bb7c5b00049adc268f Resent-Message-ID: <0KU_wD.A.GCB.9zfQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:17:17 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305496bb7c5b00049adc268f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ricky, I am very interested in this: Heres my requirements.. can you fullfill them? I want a GK IN, and 2X GK OUT sockets, I want to be able to run both my GR30 AND WP20 at the same time, currently its a choice. THEN I want seperate outs for each string. Although to be honest, Im like Per here.. REALLY I want a 2 way split. I want the E and A string to be one output and the D GB and high E to be another. I simply want a different pitch shift and diferent distortion on the bottom 2 strings. I did this once before with a band I had called God dot com, (simply by screwing old split bass pickups and making different outputs.) and it was BIG BIG BIG.. I dont use that guitar anymore as I am strictly on my Baritone these days, and forever I think. mark On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > Sounds great, Per. I hope to invest in a Chapman stick down the line. > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Ricky Graham >> wrote: >> > I have a guide at the bottom of this page: >> > http://rickygraham.com/pages/research >> >> >> Interesting reading! The audio clips at the botton are nice too :-)) >> In the 80ths/90ths I played some MIDI guitar and researched the >> concept of having unique sounds for each string, then by using >> samplers and synths. Since ten years back I've been toying with the >> idea of migrating this project into using separate real string sound >> outputs and unique effect processing for each string. But last year I >> decided to, for now, follow a *duophonic" route rather than >> *polyphonic* (like Hal's idea about routing a bunch of strings into a >> shared output). In my case I picked up a Chapman Stick, that is >> duophonic in that it routes each one of two six stringed fretboards >> out its own dedicated output. What I like in this solution is to be >> able to play with the electro magnetic pickup tone I love so much, to >> have the option of balancing up to six string clusters through the >> same output compression, or other effects, while still combining two >> separate effect processing chains. Finally the for me new experience >> of playing two handed - tonally improvising "ensamble style" like >> piano players and harpists can do and rhythmically by exploring poly >> rhythmic two hand patterns normally utilized by drummers. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305496bb7c5b00049adc268f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ricky, I am very interested in this: Heres my requirements.. can you fullfi= ll them?

I want a GK IN, and 2X GK OUT sockets, I want to be able to= run both my GR30 AND WP20 at the same time, currently its a choice. THEN I= want seperate outs for each string. Although to be honest, Im like Per her= e.. REALLY I want a 2 way split. I want the E and A string to be one output= and the D GB and high E to be another.

I simply want a different pitch shift and diferent distortion on the bo= ttom 2 strings. I did this once before with a band I had called God dot com= , (simply by screwing old split bass pickups and making different outputs.)= and it was BIG BIG BIG.. I dont use that guitar anymore as I am strictly o= n my Baritone these days, and forever I think.

mark


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:03= PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds great, Per. I hope to invest in a Chapman stick down the line.
<= div>


On Thu, Jan = 27, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wro= te:
On Thu, Jan = 27, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Ricky Graham
<rickygr= ahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a guide at the bottom of this page:
> ht= tp://rickygraham.com/pages/research


Interesting reading! The audio clips at the botton are nice too :-))<= br> In the 80ths/90ths I played some MIDI guitar and researched the
concept of having unique sounds for each string, then by using
samplers and synths. Since ten years back I've been toying with the
idea of migrating this project into using separate real string sound
outputs and unique effect processing for each string. But last year I
decided to, for now, follow a *duophonic" route rather than
*polyphonic* (like Hal's idea about routing a bunch of strings into a shared output). In my case I picked up a Chapman Stick, that is
duophonic in that it routes each one of two six stringed fretboards
out its own dedicated output. What I like in this solution is to be
able to play with the electro magnetic pickup tone I love so much, to
have the option of balancing up to six string clusters through the
same output compression, or other effects, while still combining two
separate effect processing chains. Finally the for me new experience
of playing two handed =A0- tonally improvising "ensamble style" l= ike
piano players and harpists can do and rhythmically by exploring poly
rhythmic two hand patterns normally utilized by drummers.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub





--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf305496bb7c5b00049adc268f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 23:25:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3420183479; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZSi8x63zAoRlCUgvga6vdnjlNMhLDNv+bdgJPJZIPYY=; b=xFiJJ8ew7cMVepnJzLtE6WNluYcZdAaGn73UOqHyYeSA9PhVX2lXJmv4Zft3lIskXv D4B8Es4TVSoZTItdW86XE3Bhwx3r8zmCHMXuJoeFeu9ZYzCSX4/LNDEdLEGgB8DgRWVs FYMyAMt3a2gZ4SI+o7MosvlnijqUEyy6Jf7/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MC+gjD/TXH9g7Xr8ctJ5P/FW6ojVEdC1mNthP3pVGmWw6naJJ22pT6sNb0c3LHLfCk bOl30AVIC2H2rlvdzu34X85Y6K3gdeiLDaka6pi3yKiFBzmEuie1swyptGrzfOlvCVAc 1vRhjkQ66jVWFlxNzmhZwwfBYqZASM05D4OWw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:25:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0YLVUC.A.DRB.27fQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:25:42 +0000 (UTC) > I want a GK IN, and 2X GK OUT sockets, I want to be able to run both my G= R30 > AND WP20 at the same time, currently its a choice. THEN I want seperate o= uts > for each string. Although to be honest, Im like Per here.. REALLY I want = a 2 > way split. I want the E and A string to be one output and the D GB and hi= gh > E to be another. I think this may be exactly what you want then as this unit sums the strings into pairs first (you need separate cables to split them to individual use). http://billbax.110mb.com/ 160 pounds or about $270 for the unit. I was quoted something like $100 for shipping though which seemed way too high. But perhaps there are other options for that. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 27 23:58:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED604183476; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jRT3HtGrSERoJP2IVMXpp+O/w1l9K6fdKXOikIjw0as=; b=g/YatuOsI1Jcw76FktDSVYYHN0DZYthOJVykfIGDEsmfgb1jHbOZQmU0yoF6X9A+I5 Q7H3d9xvcsVVu6OJ/X+lWnb5GTROXrl04bDvWj7R9sDNV7LwmNHXHEcVk9WcYIiRqH+L HmDYgXgWc1Z7h8/1PiqkQFb9PnOFbIeWIWmlk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZqbdCDsfp4z8nq39n+4ljgYK11npJplUnTmwtN5sGWKRXKcogC2xtFHZSqOgcxbioL r5K/mKSnjF1IsvT7BQ6hoBZVDzsLBprNMRuVJA0f3xXBAfWAwj8gavn3ooDJRjkl8rY/ eUGO7bmQllSZxmg4Ul/sdr1s9n6KOKGt/GuZU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:58:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:58:22 +0000 (UTC) thanx for all your input brothas i got a loop gig coming up in feb from a sax player who likes the stuff i do with looping,we ve done gigs in the past where he improvises to my loops but this time i really want to get groovy and make him sound good,this is why i have been investigating all of this midi sync stuff since im getting more and more offers to play this way,chill out trip hop kind of stuff,which i did some time ago with my MPC1000 and EDP. I havent been doing this stuff for a long time,for the past 3 years i ve been doing acoustic guitar with some looping, so is kind of exciting hooking up my roland synth,EDP,M9,adrenalinn and Digitech sampler which i want to use to trigger one shot subliminal speech samples with my foot.The digitech jamman Is not very exciting as a looper but it has enormous memory to save samples and you can easily scroll through them so since i dont have an MPC anymore why not use it as a foot one shot sampler and put it into the EDP loop as i please;-) I spend the whole day trying to decide if i should use mobius or the EDP as masters to my adrenalinn drum box.Is just too bad that Mobius midi sync functions dont really work as well as the EDPs,for ex. using the midi out user start functions,this is where the EDP is still rock solid if u wanna get groovy! Im so glad i still have the EDP, this thing keeps amazing me,is still so ahead,this baby is so tight and reliable in the midi sync department and so advance in its looping capabilities that havent really found anything that comes close to it (as long as you remain mono;-) Honestly im sort of giving up on the whole syncronized software thing because even mainstage and ableton dont feel as natural for spontaneous improv,there is latency and their built in loopers are just not as exciting as my EDP and i realize the moment you start using host programs,vsts and all that stuff you will have to sacrifice tight syncro rhythm to the spontaneous manipulation features that the EDP has to offer.I hate the feeling of having to watch out that things arent gonna crash or go out of sync or be a slave the whole time! if im gonna play with groovy machines they are gonna have to fuckin follow me and not otherwise! sorry for my rant but ive had it for today with this shit i should be playing more guitar really... Luis On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > . >> I guess what im looking for is something you can load your own drum >> samples or loops,or that has great drum sounds or grooves with random >> variations so the grooves that arent static and that could work stable >> when slaved syncronized to mobius. > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> I guess what im looking for is something you can load your own drum >> samples or loops,or that has great drum sounds or grooves with random >> variations so the grooves that arent static and that could work stable >> when slaved syncronized to mobius > > Luis, > What I forgot to tell is that you can apply grooves to audio clips. > Might be interesting to check it out. Quote: > "New groove engine - Groove patterns can add life and swing to > straight sequences. Live 8's new groove engine lets you apply groove > patterns in real time, extract grooves from audio or MIDI sources, > quantize audio and MIDI in real time. It also comes with a new groove > library" > > Source: http://www.ableton.com/live-8-whats-new > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 28 00:09:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED80518347A; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:09:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=JL8M7XHt36dsz5n28QeqslSvzh/DgdhX1+/pZHwEGkY=; b=ZNMqZA9zIOy7yW08Du+3KnQkvdplUSA6TUn7OvEhdHMevVXXUrj624pRPg6JQHru/3 9Sb26sXluMY6vmg7Y3rK1gr1qaKZD971ir+XU3HN/YJLjFSlYdcqejU3CiBbmbxt5tnH lqbSIEdE0JzF9zujCBJbhQEpPzoSGfDpnbZz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=AUs5qQM330Y2N1HPAhDmlP3on8nfuv3WqT0LxIfSGXT7gBpRDhk5viMbolZyeP4gFt G8s3WQxQF7sw91lPR2FQXbMm7hb9TzeYkvxjTHF7pvdr3AlBgJ/6wsel2MG6HZFIK2Rg AoeL+sSNr7W2KWvySdhK5dqQFx3XNBlb0Goyg= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:09:25 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <66B944C9-B4AC-4AB5-B647-1A8C12EA4A21@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <-9BpzC.A.rRC.4kgQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:09:28 +0000 (UTC) > sorry for my rant but ive had it for today with this shit > i should be playing more guitar really... > Luis I think software is our loopin' crack rock. It will take ya straight to = hell....... but it sounds sooooo good while your on your way there!! -Todd Matthews= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 28 01:26:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE6D818347A; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D421A8F.5010700@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:23:27 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:25:59 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on the Finnish band Nemesis. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Sky Archeology" by Nemesis on Freeride Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jan Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 28 01:33:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7746E18347B; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kneUPAWqeT30NW1cj/vXa0U2GeGH03WLwPxqj216J/U=; b=dJE0Rcf+cJKvMfbUAhCH0nPDs/OyHgDnNJcgsiwnYSL91xybVnl9io9q2fmxde5JHj WiMguD7sOinBZgdiAy/Rtv7N+p/UBSTCaaazdmVgGzNBe989wunMBEnFXj+FooIiTOW9 DsLtbGrPgMJ7BWvEBDWPjyfh5YgilQP90V6pc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=rzEySsK8XDIf35kR0Hmd9+6xkowfDrPX4ooQOvPnqZ/9+njXsYlvIhQC1Sk8mTpw+Y ozWFYb6LMyJiRG6CK0g/4Ya61BCYrg9NW94IVB27XW+WAnOVVb/zVS+Mwok/hDc8QtTb SM1dhDffyQ7+AhPoiOkuFl6umPkV1GsHelSdQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:33:19 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: re: hexe revolver (vid) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7e8b189f54049ade0d56 Resent-Message-ID: <1ytgIC.A.oDE.hzhQNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:33:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7e8b189f54049ade0d56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i just saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QujNUpJzouQ the hexe revovler...one sec of looping/glitch/stutter. wow, it does some cool things, some great sounds.... looks like mr. torn (splattercell) just got one and said good things about it.... thought i'd share.... varispeed on it-YES. and most cool & good.... not sure the price...i'm afraid to find out... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0016364c7e8b189f54049ade0d56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0016364c7e8b189f54049ade0d56-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 28 01:59:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11E2218347A; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: a couple of new Darkroom vids Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:59:23 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:59:31 +0000 (UTC) As usual, great work you guys. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 28 06:44:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 290F818347A; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=65qnZNaJy4O0P/XW+yNoMhk0uO5xQWJvFR1k/XewvV8=; b=oA32BOlrz1Cb6rtBHJz0mT/rIvUvUbxE9AzJnhBsAl2wCYtCdCp5N03o44H8QOsncP 5AQM34dbFjuaCeiyT4XVTX72UzXNHWC+lw71dvXqPJ1FnkJSJnYw4EyIdXf5WmPuWoXI Lkd2h6BHRMFDivW+OiEGcRSVzhYjWGWxCa8+4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=X43ncz1VSjiezV74DfH6ErVKeyONJQVTUN2AJRiJ0TJlnWDPTvkualHu75sMM7VE5S JKnuEb0iRb9uyvZdFdBrwgy/IURRYmvfyVjJxxWlN8Pp0bhCKIEPR8ww9yOM6mqraqiT PYPNI97c9p0c+UKIXYZ3iUX1nhpBthEr4OhqM= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:43:47 +0100 Message-ID: <-1264849810202722812@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: rhythm sequencers software To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Wooah.... I hear you brother... My thoughts entirely! M Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 28 Jan 2011, at 00:58, Louie Angulo wrote: > thanx for all your input brothas > i got a loop gig coming up in feb from a sax player who likes the > stuff i do with looping,we ve done gigs in the past where he > improvises to my loops > but this time i really want to get groovy and make him sound good,this > is why i have been investigating all of this midi sync stuff since im > getting more and more offers to play this way,chill out trip hop kind > of stuff,which i did some time ago with my MPC1000 and EDP. > I havent been doing this stuff for a long time,for the past 3 years i > ve been doing acoustic guitar with some looping, so is kind of > exciting hooking up my roland synth,EDP,M9,adrenalinn and Digitech > sampler which i want to use to trigger one shot subliminal speech > samples with my foot.The digitech jamman Is not very exciting as a > looper but it has enormous memory to save samples and you can easily > scroll through them so since i dont have an MPC anymore why not use it > as a foot one shot sampler and put it into the EDP loop as i please;-) > I spend the whole day trying to decide if i should use mobius or the > EDP as masters to my adrenalinn drum box.Is just too bad that Mobius > midi sync functions dont really work as well as the EDPs,for ex. using > the midi out user start functions,this is where the EDP is still rock > solid if u wanna get groovy! > Im so glad i still have the EDP, this thing keeps amazing me,is still > so ahead,this baby is so tight and reliable in the midi sync > department and so advance in its looping capabilities that havent > really found anything that comes close to it > (as long as you remain mono;-) > Honestly im sort of giving up on the whole syncronized software thing > because even mainstage and ableton dont feel as natural for > spontaneous improv,there is latency and their built in loopers are > just not as exciting as my EDP > and i realize the moment you start using host programs,vsts and all > that stuff you will have to sacrifice tight syncro rhythm to the > spontaneous manipulation features that the EDP has to offer.I hate the > feeling of having to watch out that things arent gonna crash or go out > of sync or be a slave the whole time! > if im gonna play with groovy machines they are gonna have to fuckin > follow me and not otherwise! > sorry for my rant but ive had it for today with this shit > i should be playing more guitar really... > Luis > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >> . >>> I guess what im looking for is something you can load your own drum >>> samples or loops,or that has great drum sounds or grooves with random >>> variations so the grooves that arent static and that could work stable >>> when slaved syncronized to mobius. >> >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >>> I guess what im looking for is something you can load your own drum >>> samples or loops,or that has great drum sounds or grooves with random >>> variations so the grooves that arent static and that could work stable >>> when slaved syncronized to mobius >> >> Luis, >> What I forgot to tell is that you can apply grooves to audio clips. >> Might be interesting to check it out. Quote: >> "New groove engine - Groove patterns can add life and swing to >> straight sequences. Live 8's new groove engine lets you apply groove >> patterns in real time, extract grooves from audio or MIDI sources, >> quantize audio and MIDI in real time. It also comes with a new groove >> library" >> >> Source: http://www.ableton.com/live-8-whats-new >> -- >> Sjaak Overgaauw >> http://premonitionfactory.com/ >> http://livelooping.be/ >> >> >> -- >> Sjaak Overgaauw >> http://premonitionfactory.com/ >> http://livelooping.be/ >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 28 07:51:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F15918347C; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5NUf+D8M/ENEHRdGvUF8Siz6WQmXrQl0BpcRCeiSnZA=; b=vdBSgQF+xD1mE61PIqAZxC19E08Iucv0cv3/7fS1xzTftE77NMb65i6KXW25i7JPjI EQ92r5sOyn3n1GvTOi5qCBLnsg0ri/o9rmuwQsIz574FizmE1l74fs7rSfoux1HmmYRw oC0BkPaVJAvEz8fXntYLHk7c/cSdXVWwXX710= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xSIBWh0CLiEYrRsMITq/YetF+roPtj/52FE3CJkcAt7uL/aeibd/KPTd7uJ9UR5Z7W IpQY0cV5Qk39rkU3PvMqelriJbOdAdlmISCU/V2AlB0dCGRAL7UcIyl/VZF0oSTeiBLL pOG9zjIn8d2nVM+tvTgfT9IV/gTLuriSdmg2M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D3E0AF2.2050905@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:51:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: fianlly a video of using mobius and ableton! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:51:23 +0000 (UTC) sonds killer bro,once im done with this gig i will give that one a try yes i downloaded the trail version of ableton,do i have to modify the GUI of mobius for the window to fit on abletons screen? is quite big! ok i will see how it goes thanx bud Luis On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Hey brother Luis :) > IAC will do the trick, got this tip from Per Boysen 2 years ago. You > can selecting the IAC port in Mobius to send out midi clock. Select > IAC as in input midi port in the Live 8 midi preferences. Btw: I don't > use sync myself, but when an audio clip in Live is running in warp > mode, it will sync to it's internal or external midi clock. Just > tested it by changing the tempo from an external arpeggiator sending > out midi clock. The audio clips are time strechted, the pitch remains > the same and are running in sync. > > Btw: you can download a fully functional trial version of Live8 for 30 days. > > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 28 08:48:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E89618347C; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0f1b7124-11c4-48a5-8fa5-19ced8286015_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:48:05 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,,,,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2011 08:48:05.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[145D5A30:01CBBEC8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:48:10 +0000 (UTC) --_0f1b7124-11c4-48a5-8fa5-19ced8286015_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill is a very approachable guy. I'm sure you could re-negotiate the shippi= ng.. G > Date: Thu=2C 27 Jan 2011 15:25:38 -0800 > Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box > From: billowhead@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > > I want a GK IN=2C and 2X GK OUT sockets=2C I want to be able to run bot= h my GR30 > > AND WP20 at the same time=2C currently its a choice. THEN I want sepera= te outs > > for each string. Although to be honest=2C Im like Per here.. REALLY I w= ant a 2 > > way split. I want the E and A string to be one output and the D GB and = high > > E to be another. >=20 > I think this may be exactly what you want then as this unit sums the > strings into pairs first (you need separate cables to split them to > individual use). >=20 > http://billbax.110mb.com/ >=20 > 160 pounds or about $270 for the unit. I was quoted something like > $100 for shipping though which seemed way too high. But perhaps there > are other options for that. >=20 > Kevin > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 = --_0f1b7124-11c4-48a5-8fa5-19ced8286015_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill is a very approachable guy. I'm sure you could re-negotiate the shippi= ng..

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= = --_0f1b7124-11c4-48a5-8fa5-19ced8286015_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 28 14:18:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A55518347B; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lvYsIfZEVB9WLENMaU81NLrlI9UtAswpRinDhsAzkiI=; b=PKtwyHx3fqLFUOnSXJ83T8WNEugcRpZdSwemfs0UDmjKxbHhxVtx0USfcIShwkWMsW 4KdA98FtBIaRNQ+cxkmQ2p07bO3M9yi02fduYe5vdWusPQjhLRyY6DHbkjoEw7OguJXo 2mWvjUPNg0bMJpEpae+0i/TUCslKM5tZpNfQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eSc0BLFOhSH1i8SiQH41sLku8/4TX0EvveiVP4201jh68IQmQDeWJEZ7MWLuOHoU6r jTfCAoVlwx2/cXFD1TdhmeclAV7i09Gn7uXUAZDpMZsptY/8unYLPkJnv7eKciQWWUXV 0QqcizhsNFoR4RFORB31535cLtiG/7N2MkTm8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:18:20 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c599bdf7e8c9049ae8bc1b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:18:22 +0000 (UTC) --001636c599bdf7e8c9049ae8bc1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Mark, Yes, it's possible (maybe a DIN splitter cable would be possible - easy enough with some heat shrink), but at the moment, I just do not have the time. But thanks for asking. Ricky On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Bill is a very approachable guy. I'm sure you could re-negotiate the > shipping.. > > G > > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:25:38 -0800 > > > Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box > > From: billowhead@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > I want a GK IN, and 2X GK OUT sockets, I want to be able to run both my > GR30 > > > AND WP20 at the same time, currently its a choice. THEN I want seperate > outs > > > for each string. Although to be honest, Im like Per here.. REALLY I > want a 2 > > > way split. I want the E and A string to be one output and the D GB and > high > > > E to be another. > > > > I think this may be exactly what you want then as this unit sums the > > strings into pairs first (you need separate cables to split them to > > individual use). > > > > http://billbax.110mb.com/ > > > > 160 pounds or about $270 for the unit. I was quoted something like > > $100 for shipping though which seemed way too high. But perhaps there > > are other options for that. > > > > Kevin > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > --001636c599bdf7e8c9049ae8bc1b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark,

Yes, it's possible (maybe a DIN splitter cable would b= e possible - easy enough with some heat shrink), but at the moment, I just = do not have the time. But thanks for asking.

Ricky

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Bill is a very approachable guy. I'm sure you could re-negotiate the sh= ipping..

G

> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:25:38 -0800

> Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box
> From: billowhead@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
>
> > I want a GK IN, = and 2X GK OUT sockets, I want to be able to run both my GR30
> > A= ND WP20 at the same time, currently its a choice. THEN I want seperate outs=
> > for each string. Although to be honest, Im like Per here.. REALLY= I want a 2
> > way split. I want the E and A string to be one out= put and the D GB and high
> > E to be another.
>
> I = think this may be exactly what you want then as this unit sums the
> strings into pairs first (you need separate cables to split them to> individual use).
>
> http://billbax.110mb.com/
>
> 160 pou= nds or about $270 for the unit. I was quoted something like
> $100 for shipping though which seemed way too high. But perhaps there=
> are other options for that.
>
> Kevin
> --
= > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound = and Vision:=A0 http:= //www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>

--001636c599bdf7e8c9049ae8bc1b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 28 17:09:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78E3F183478; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Rick's percussion post References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Rick's percussion post Thread-Index: Acu/DgTVcN0zbg7ESTC1a9f4GquI+w== Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:08:22 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2011 17:09:02.0787 (UTC) FILETIME=[0FEDA130:01CBBF0E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Rick et al, I just wanted to say again thanks for taking time, time is all we really hav= e, taking time to write such a good post about percussion and how it might r= elate to static percussion loops in looping.=20 In building live song track, the way I mostly loop, I can either record shor= t two or four measure grooves or play them in my mini vdrum setup, and since= your post been thinking and listening closer and I noticed that if I just r= ecord my mediocre live drumming, it is a weird combination of having a drum g= roove thats not perfect but gets repeated perfectly, it is really cool hadnt= thought of that but it really makes for a much better feel on the overall s= ong.=20 Ya'll other genuises, thanks too. Soon I'll be brave enough to show yall a l= oop song!!! Andy the O= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 29 05:16:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AADC518347E; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 05:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3qVPbHQwXgg30ns4PP9R+D10h+pSZJwnK4UqakEoQfc=; b=xPauaPzNRezVJgzFTs0GUO4eX97z+fn1HSPKBJUMwVk1rbA9aQCDTrvwIatykg61C1 hJnPflwdiqV3/Zkd5su1lmySSgcWfmbFlUCbXnEw6pfLAN4zwS9HoYeNXm/GxUA/Dy/T UHzT+4CQwVTQytxxT5pA+oJM3o8DURmhB+VhY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gyHE5ucOWMigon/oX0BBXwkkBl2qkgAr4IffofnPoX0m0Nok3lCZNBXJbXkGvKCYEs vHnR9wEhUSyX7bbYnt1NRD8JSZgwq3u/gmjpOfrawTqabfb56gWGY3Go2pC0odgmCtJk psuRvfy26IQzA4MpF71F4SO9vLval1aWpzwLY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 00:16:45 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: GigMusicSpam: ImprovFriday this weekend From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b5580039bd049af54a09 Resent-Message-ID: <2SzTND.A.ByF.BL6QNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 05:16:49 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b5580039bd049af54a09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks at ImprovFriday we're having a great 'thread' so far this weekend. I pub'd a blog earlier this evening with a few links from the 40 someodd pieces so far, some very neat mashes. The blog is http://whatsnewatimprovfriday.wordpress.com and ImprovFriday is of course, http://improvfriday.ning.com. *Rainer* and *Stephen [Goodman]* are each doing live webstreams today (Saturday 1/29/11) during the day, hosted by ImprovFriday. Rainer's set is at 8am PST, 11am EST, 4pm UK, 5pm western Europe. Stephen's set is at 4pm PST, 7pm EST, 12mn UK, 1am western Europe. For specific visit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html. To catch the feeds goto the ImprovFriday site above. Hope to see everyone. Jim --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001636c5b5580039bd049af54a09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks at ImprovFriday we're having a great 'thread' so far this= weekend. =A0I pub'd a blog earlier this evening with a few links from = the 40 someodd pieces so far, some very neat mashes. =A0The blog is=A0http://whatsnewatimprovf= riday.wordpress.com=A0and ImprovFriday is of course,=A0http://improvfriday.ning.com.

Rainer=A0and Stephen [Goodman]=A0are each doin= g live webstreams today (Saturday 1/29/11) during the day, hosted by Improv= Friday.

Rainer's set is at 8am PST, 11am EST, = 4pm UK, 5pm western Europe.

Stephen's set is at 4pm PST, 7pm EST, 12mn UK, 1am = western Europe.


To catch the feeds goto the ImprovFriday site above.

Hope to see everyone.

Jim
--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Fr= ee Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn= .bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--001636c5b5580039bd049af54a09-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 29 15:26:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D17718347C; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D443186.7010307@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:25:58 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #721 for January 27, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:26:03 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110127.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #721 January 27, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Nemesis. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Sky Archeology" on Freeride Records. Nemesis: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jan PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Ron Boots and Coucher du soleil Refuge en Verre (Groove) Synth.nl Dave Luxton Space Station Window Dark Moon (Wayfarer) Nattefrost Close Encounter Dying Sun / Scarlet Moon (Groove) Picture Palace Music Right of Ascension Midsummer (Groove) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Nemesis Sky Archeology Sky Archeology (Freeride) Nemesis Cygnus Loop Sky Archeology (Freeride) Nemesis Tango Fornax 9991 Sky Archeology (Freeride) Nemesis Nova Stella Sky Archeology (Freeride) Nemesis Monocheros Sky Archeology (Freeride) Nemesis Almagest Sky Archeology (Freeride) Nemesis Anaxagoras Sky Archeology (Freeride) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Nattefrost. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Absorbed in Dreams and Yearning" on Groove Unlimited. Nattefrost: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#feb Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 29 16:12:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78C1F18347E; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=auRSAF/jqklp7cbcCRT9HfWVcUyiMSNzJw4gcYvhjjs=; b=ESdVUlExQS12iq1J84az0naZP8+bskwBBSUbzvJQtGChWLBex7uAdbYJtA7PckyHbd 9D32Y7S8HipNXqxPtfxhXXDTD4iJUQUkd5RQnHsZGcZXf/vCd++YAiNaEgM2wH711C4x 5TSNu7BjPOvObYsFHMVsxsqKV8IqJtSKQYfj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=XgEyzbh0dG/m2h+mR2vCvTMiObUh1SpAQg6+6N6zX8u0GKBY5iqUjKimSgzM3NY2ar TMZ6JRmdYLuldzZsbOew3EUT/NZUsWUPTK3Nab0/GzWOqszV1GwkOHEsRSJEXnX/1o2I pHC79APVTdccthkU3+lwEWnQn4Ok9QGXyWkMo= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: GigMusicSpam: ImprovFriday this weekend From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:12:04 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <639C1356-7194-41B9-A7A3-72F9289758DD@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:12:13 +0000 (UTC) I've gone to the website but the video it links to is Rainer looping = trombone back on Jan 15th. (Which sounds really cool Rainer, btw) How do = I get to the live one that's happening right now? -Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 29 16:21:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D810183479; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aGM4VwfYhjhK/B0Kcpej1SGDP5eKJBkRzVq7WpVNpKY=; b=wkewNWlBuliGQAhFSSu8YYjZziSmWf5MOOVtibHkuacfnoAzT/pSgy47D/uVooj4ZV 1Y/11I8hBqvXHC1CY1hLO1Z+blvR4EOjucK4+xSLCic5e2vb+hlalx4a+BQmzlFIp2Im sU2dt66LDHbP6/QVAKDvJ2jbEJAJ+1Zuyomss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JhkJ2YaehzmXeYf1EcwaRn1fK6YMg8LTUafMS+fWfwj9rFCXb7H+7/X9R8ky+zPlGZ 4Ay2JC76LJ5rmGeCP7Dtq4prp5sXNxFF+lWgJcDibZihUGHtEtf+/szQkheiuhUoxbsq 40f5y4Hiz1p2obC16mc7FZrfHu4UyRM1yh8xU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <639C1356-7194-41B9-A7A3-72F9289758DD@gmail.com> References: <639C1356-7194-41B9-A7A3-72F9289758DD@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:21:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GigMusicSpam: ImprovFriday this weekend From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a66b3f45ec049afe939f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:21:31 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a66b3f45ec049afe939f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable refresh refresh, he started late as well but live now doing electronics. http://improvfriday.ning.com also http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-studio-sessions. join us. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Todd Matthews wrote= : > I've gone to the website but the video it links to is Rainer looping > trombone back on Jan 15th. (Which sounds really cool Rainer, btw) How do = I > get to the live one that's happening right now? > > -Todd Matthews > > > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a66b3f45ec049afe939f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable refresh refresh, he started late as well but live now doing electronics. = =A0 http://improvfriday.ning.com also http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-studio-sessions. =A0jo= in us.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Todd Matth= ews <gtmatthew= s@gmail.com> wrote:
I've gone to the website but the video it links to is Rainer looping tr= ombone back on Jan 15th. (Which sounds really cool Rainer, btw) How do I ge= t to the live one that's happening right now?

-Todd Matthews








--
From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

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--20cf3054a66b3f45ec049afe939f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 29 17:31:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08C2018347A; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5F6D7DD8-EB19-41F6-94B9-26575191D972@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-187527126 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Building a Midi Breakout Box Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:31:46 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:31:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-187527126 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found this on bay area Craigs List, I haven't been following this thread too closely but isn't this what you all are thinking about? Bill http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/msg/2183239539.html --Apple-Mail-4-187527126 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found this on bay area Craigs List, I haven't been following this thread too  closely but isn't this what you all are thinking about? --Apple-Mail-4-187527126-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 29 17:53:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29C7718347E; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <430FAAA3-A562-4243-9DB3-80C2469F5120@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re:alternatives to rhythm sequencers software Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:53:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <5yLalB.A.P1D.wQFRNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Dear Luis et all, I think that my old band mate and looper Gary Regina ( and the Genie for that matter) has the coolest and easiest way to get great drum beats without resorting to midi clock, drum machines or sequencers, software etc... Simple resampling, like I think you are now on to Luis, You have this great new looper that stores a huge amount of loops so use it as your beat loop storage device, and if you can't sync to anything, simply resample those beats on to your edp for further mangling, perfect stops and starts etc. Gary does it on an RC 50, before that it was a original Lexicon Jamman. That cool thing about this is obviously you can sample anything from your favorite hip grooves and dance tracks, to Martin Luther King throwing down his Dream, and if you don't have a looper with storage, an I-pod or CD player routed to your looper will suffice, and from a visual standpoint resampling a drum groove live still gives an audience the sense of the piece being built from scratch as apposed to pressing a button to turn on the canned tracks. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 29 18:30:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C160D18347E; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 828574.55177.bm@omp1013.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296325837; bh=+mV790XZo2v4330UlxM/oaKELznctp7FeSSGdrpIbEA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cXlmYQ6t/eprCBe8fPw6uPsvtSndctfED/GjcPf5rT4bCwSgB1XT9ekKBOpG06ca9PBrcHhubzh9gtj0xfFezMB6wkwFk+dfu4EVyKJPLdWG4hQdBqvy3Z3PDtHqxN4HPWzWwszi4Y16hGfPt4HyjM+4qrIXhqHMC/+63poTTek= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ikP1FIQb40KWFnnbZYtSflESTgW1gqz0S7xPejOoqJ3El+cLxKSIM6Vhq1l+M1e56apUX4VuO+5Sk7g30zvaOP+hHdJJgZ76WO1GVXsjbuap0KqVtTqdDifIaNV1l3+McwvGq0wSgsgtfNwiyDWoqqqDG/ETck79zpjyP1/XXks=; Message-ID: <494856.63226.qm@web45904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: p01R7AUVM1kz7IepT4sIiUdcFJUgNsUT1i.C7WovKiX0df6 uRmvtozK3Ovn_NVE8qMI2QeQa8sI8_1TAbB34TaRt9mQciqVejcF.A_mDj7r kTMS47Pafmkkjsb5I_6srXIryypgTbf1Br6QL2qL9UUT4m13.CUVMdxuRTg. PkOxB6NgD1L8fmcIDZC3zc8mF.Gdrgz0MoklJwq7SLbcBYh5MkhKaqilsRT. lHt67422SxegNppRXfATmaxWXfU0j3thWCr8gk9pM.jQmX6c- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <430FAAA3-A562-4243-9DB3-80C2469F5120@baymoon.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:30:36 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: alternatives to rhythm sequencers software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <430FAAA3-A562-4243-9DB3-80C2469F5120@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1695701235-1296325836=:63226" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:30:40 +0000 (UTC) --0-1695701235-1296325836=:63226 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bill et al, Thanks to everyone for the info this is certainly a site where I learn something new each day. Bill, per your idea, lately I have been using SoundPlant to play samples I loaded from an old copy of DrumCore I bought years ago and never used. I have been having fun slowing down the samples to the point you don't even know it is a drum anymore..... Eric ________________________________ From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 12:53:45 PM Subject: Re:alternatives to rhythm sequencers software Dear Luis et all, I think that my old band mate and looper Gary Regina ( and the Genie for that matter) has the coolest and easiest way to get great drum beats without resorting to midi clock, drum machines or sequencers, software etc... Simple resampling, like I think you are now on to Luis, You have this great new looper that stores a huge amount of loops so use it as your beat loop storage device, and if you can't sync to anything, simply resample those beats on to your edp for further mangling, perfect stops and starts etc. Gary does it on an RC 50, before that it was a original Lexicon Jamman. That cool thing about this is obviously you can sample anything from your favorite hip grooves and dance tracks, to Martin Luther King throwing down his Dream, and if you don't have a looper with storage, an I-pod or CD player routed to your looper will suffice, and from a visual standpoint resampling a drum groove live still gives an audience the sense of the piece being built from scratch as apposed to pressing a button to turn on the canned tracks. Bill --0-1695701235-1296325836=:63226 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Bill et al,

Thanks to everyone for the info this is certainly a site where I learn something new each day. Bill, per your idea, lately I have been using SoundPlant to play samples I loaded from an old copy of DrumCore I bought years ago and never used. I have been having fun slowing down the samples to the point you don't even know it is a drum anymore.....

Eric

From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 12:53:45 PM
Subject: Re:alternatives to rhythm sequencers software

Dear Luis et all, I think that my old band mate and looper Gary Regina ( and the Genie for that matter) has the coolest and easiest way to get great drum beats without resorting to midi clock, drum machines or sequencers, software etc... Simple resampling, like I think you are now on to Luis, You have this great new looper that stores a huge amount of loops so use it as your beat loop storage device,  and if you can't sync to anything, simply resample those beats on to your edp for further mangling, perfect stops and starts etc. Gary does it on an RC 50, before that it was a original Lexicon Jamman. That cool thing about this is obviously you can sample anything from your favorite hip grooves and dance tracks, to Martin Luther King throwing down his Dream,  and if you don't have a looper with storage, an I-pod or CD player  routed to your looper will suffice, and from a visual standpoint resampling a drum groove live still gives an audience the sense of the piece being built from scratch as apposed to pressing a button to turn on the canned tracks.
Bill


--0-1695701235-1296325836=:63226-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 29 20:45:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BA2C18347A; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 20:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D447C4E.6090702@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:45:02 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for January, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 20:45:07 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/top20-01jan.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for January, 2011. Shows #718 to #721; 6-January-2011 to 27-January-2011 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox The Special Focus for January was Nemesis. Nemesis: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jan ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== Ambient Fabric - In Space - Auraltone Amongst Myselves - Fragments - none Broekhuis, Keller, and Schonwalder - In Repelen - Manikin Chuck Van Zyl - MemorySpace - Synkronos Claus Gahrn and Tim Risher - Musical Sculptures - Auraltone Create - We Live By the Machines - Groove Dave Luxton - Dark Moon - Wayfarer Gert Emmens - Metamorphosis - Groove MorPheuSz - Days of Delerium and Nocturnal Nightmares - Groove Nattefrost - Dying Sun / Scarlet Moon - Groove Nemesis - Gigaherz - Origo Sound Nemesis - Live Archive Vol. 1 - none Nemesis - Live Archive Vol. 2 - none Nemesis - Live Archive Vol. 2 - none Nemesis - Sky Archeology - Freeride Picture Palace Music - Midsummer - Groove Rainbow Serpent and Isgaard - Stranger - Manikin Ron Boots and Synth.nl - Refuge en Verre - Groove Various Artists - E-Live 2009 - Groove Various Artists - E-Live 2010 - Groove Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 29 21:52:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7013218347E; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 21:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:52:28 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 21:52:41 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Rick et al, > > I just wanted to say again thanks for taking time, time is all we really have, taking time to write such a good post about percussion and how it might relate to static percussion loops in looping. > > In building live song track, the way I mostly loop, I can either record short two or four measure grooves or play them in my mini vdrum setup, and since your post been thinking and listening closer and I noticed that if I just record my mediocre live drumming, it is a weird combination of having a drum groove thats not perfect but gets repeated perfectly, it is really cool hadnt thought of that but it really makes for a much better feel on the overall song. > > Ya'll other genuises, thanks too. Soon I'll be brave enough to show yall a loop song!!! > > Andy the O Thanks, Andy, and you really hit the nail on the head for me: I've seen hundreds of loopers play at all the festivals I've produced and in touring in many countries in my life and it may just be my aesthetic, but I find it far more engaging to me for a guitarist or other melodic looper to make their own percussion loops with whatever is at hand (their own instrument, incidental percussion, small drum sets (and remember you need only a credible kick sound, a credible snare and a credible hi hat sound which can result in a very, very small drum set) or even electronic drums). It's funny about looping but I've come to believe this. If you are musical and relatively accurate and fairly minimal, the brain 'buys' a single bar rhythmic loop as a coherent world against which you can layer lots of interesting things. The second you add more than a couple of bars, the idiosyncracies of either quantized programming or imperfect performance become glaring and people fixate on the artificialness (and the lack of perfection). I once, purposefully made a terribly lump beat box loop at PASIC (I've already mentioned it here, I believe but it bears mentioning again) enough to get a funny audible groan out of the famous session drummer, Bill Ward, sitting in the front row. I did it, though, to demonstrate that I could then layer four or five more acapella tracks in such a way that I could make the audience suspend their reasonable disbelief and 'buy' the loop as a groove. I did this by layering long envelope events that 'smeared' across the lumpy boundary of the event. The reasonable suspension of disbelief that all human beings have capacity for is why looping works at all, in my opinion. Let's face it: we are doing a very, very artificial thing when we loop live and we are trying to do it in such a way that nobody pays much attention to it's artificiality (unless we are slicing and dicing and getting jiggy with an abstract concept, in which the artificiality of our processing is precisely the effect we want to have on the audience). Consequently, in performance after performance at the loopfestivals I have watched the audiences responses and, invariably, the musicians who are creating their own rhythmic/percussion tracks just seem to have a better response to what their doing sometimes DESPITE the fact that they are using extremely naive rhythmic concepts and techniques. It's one thing if it's being put on a recording. Another, when it is in front of a live audience. As an example, I love and support Luis Angulo to do anything he wants to do with his Adrenallin in performance, but personally, I love it the most when he's not using programmed beats but playing percussion himself. He's one funky motherfunker, in my opinion and the visceral quality of what he loops, percussively is always outstanding. We're looping so it's artificial as hell, but , to me, it feels more 'real' to do it that way. Here's to illusion!!! respectfully, rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 00:20:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E97A18347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 00:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cL0M6VOD+gj5Y16Y6GvORXFPH8FL2GvQwBzkGPr6B9U=; b=iG7hv76fUo7d8WMP//wGFKBvgmGgxZDmH7a7B67hSljYlQuExhvD/2TVNZHWwxd7IH wNczG3ZcZOlrHwpPqVeo8/bJAaPv16QHQpcwmJ51oRD/3DvGE3jUlAzg3hxy1iyNQEmb FAmzeTpeFUYj/5z8Ai4dLmahBQheTOHBqQ2Ro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hdEMFNHZkiBotth53bVBPm6nmVHLVkm3DD0aUzsFjZMN7Cb2NOYrRdjTXrg8XjBYJk a/7Fx/OCuRBTrStwxcHPm/aBK9P6Vme3YiN9Q4axo1EQbFaizaVe957aLsEhRJNKhmlQ 7vq2F53qv1ch9P4CNNvlhVpEeFTAjRFSRte88= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D41D860.8060109@cruzio.com> References: <4D416A97.20701@tiscali.co.uk> <4D41D860.8060109@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:20:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: LP 2 Mini Looper Feature Set From: Zak Kramer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023543a2a04649dc7049b05432b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 00:20:16 +0000 (UTC) --0023543a2a04649dc7049b05432b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > > I wonder if the "storage of 8 loops" on the SD card > causes confusion. I was surprised by the "eight loops" bit myself, as I hadn't recalled that in the original feature set Bob posted, and which (after many re-posts) was how I heard about the LP-2. I had assumed it was only one loop, but then when I heard it was multiple loops, I was curious as to how/why that worked. But I mostly ordered it for battery powerable rhythmic mangling. I can't wait. Zak Kramer --0023543a2a04649dc7049b05432b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
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> I wonder if= the "storage of 8 loops" on the SD card
> causes confusion= .

I was surprised by the "eight loops" bit myself, as I ha= dn't recalled that in the original feature set Bob posted, and which (a= fter many re-posts) was how I heard about the LP-2. I had assumed it was on= ly one loop, but then when I heard it was multiple loops, I was curious as = to how/why that worked.

But I mostly ordered it for battery powerable rhythmic mangling. I can&= #39;t wait.

Zak Kramer


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--001636c5b43c96f4e0049b05def9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 03:33:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A0FE18347A; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 03:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: m13 - m9 From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:13 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <67AC6ECA-41A7-495A-8E1A-5E3B7211E805@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 03:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Okay. I miss some of the effects on the AM8000R, but record a loop on = the M13, put it into reverse and half-speed, and run it through some = effects including things like the Particle Verb and it's a very nice = little ambience processor. Now, if only it weren't also affecting my guitar signal when I play over = the top... Splitters, mixers, effects loops, oh my. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 04:25:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40C5D18347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 04:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_cd995c99-01c1-4fff-82d3-73fee05a921e_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: m13 - m9 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 04:25:55 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <67AC6ECA-41A7-495A-8E1A-5E3B7211E805@baymoon.com> , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2011 04:25:55.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9322EE0:01CBC035] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 04:25:57 +0000 (UTC) --_cd995c99-01c1-4fff-82d3-73fee05a921e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've only just got mine Mark but can't you just select another scene for ja= mming over the top? I'm loving the M13 incidentally - gorgeous! =20 peace =20 G =20 > Subject: Re: m13 - m9=20 > From: mark@grubmah.com > Date: Sat=2C 29 Jan 2011 19:33:13 -0800 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Okay. I miss some of the effects on the AM8000R=2C but record a loop on t= he M13=2C put it into reverse and half-speed=2C and run it through some eff= ects including things like the Particle Verb and it's a very nice little am= bience processor. >=20 > Now=2C if only it weren't also affecting my guitar signal when I play ove= r the top... Splitters=2C mixers=2C effects loops=2C oh my. >=20 > Mark >=20 = --_cd995c99-01c1-4fff-82d3-73fee05a921e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've only just got mine Mark but can't you just select another scene = =3Bfor jamming over the top?
I'm loving the M13 incidentally - gorgeous!
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peace
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G
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>=3B Subject: Re: m13 - m9
>=3B From: mark@grubmah.com
>=3B Da= te: Sat=2C 29 Jan 2011 19:33:13 -0800
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Okay. I miss some of the effects on the A= M8000R=2C but record a loop on the M13=2C put it into reverse and half-spee= d=2C and run it through some effects including things like the Particle Ver= b and it's a very nice little ambience processor.
>=3B
>=3B Now= =2C if only it weren't also affecting my guitar signal when I play over the= top... Splitters=2C mixers=2C effects loops=2C oh my.
>=3B
>=3B= Mark
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= --_cd995c99-01c1-4fff-82d3-73fee05a921e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 07:40:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EF2818347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-281-238431835 Subject: Re: m13 - m9 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:40:11 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <67AC6ECA-41A7-495A-8E1A-5E3B7211E805@baymoon.com> , Message-Id: <521C87EA-6439-4018-8676-539C47DB53CC@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:40:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-281-238431835 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm reprocessing the loop which means I'm also processing my playing. I = love taking a loop and enmeshing it in complex ambience. I'm less = enamored of doing that with my main signal. As I said, splitters and = mixers and effects loops, here I come I guess. It does make it tempting to replace the M13 with a pair of M9's. One for = echoes on my main signal and one as a looper + FX. That said, the FX = loop on the M13 offers opportunities as well with the right routing. Mark On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I've only just got mine Mark but can't you just select another scene = for jamming over the top? > I'm loving the M13 incidentally - gorgeous! > =20 > peace > =20 > G > =20 > > Subject: Re: m13 - m9=20 > > From: mark@grubmah.com > > Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:13 -0800 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > Okay. I miss some of the effects on the AM8000R, but record a loop = on the M13, put it into reverse and half-speed, and run it through some = effects including things like the Particle Verb and it's a very nice = little ambience processor. > >=20 > > Now, if only it weren't also affecting my guitar signal when I play = over the top... Splitters, mixers, effects loops, oh my. > >=20 > > Mark > >=20 --Apple-Mail-281-238431835 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I'm = reprocessing the loop which means I'm also processing my playing. I love = taking a loop and enmeshing it in complex ambience. I'm less enamored of = doing that with my main signal. As I said, splitters and mixers and = effects loops, here I come I guess.

It does make it = tempting to replace the M13 with a pair of M9's. One for echoes on my = main signal and one as a looper + FX. That said, the FX loop on the M13 = offers opportunities as well with the right = routing.

Mark

On = Jan 29, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote:

 
> = From: mark@grubmah.com
> Date: Sat, = 29 Jan 2011 19:33:13 -0800
> To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> 
> Okay. I miss some = of the effects on the AM8000R, but record a loop on the M13, put it into = reverse and half-speed, and run it through some effects including things = like the Particle Verb and it's a very nice little ambience = processor.
> 
> Now, if only it = weren't also affecting my guitar signal when I play over the top... = Splitters, mixers, effects loops, oh my.
> 
> Mark
> 

= --Apple-Mail-281-238431835-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 09:09:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40BC818347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=EPaTW5s8UZtKuUuUwnxxtTky1h0ONJyt+nHhXJ4TCYI=; b=QYJemiCKf8l6kI1+MNEPgsFkOun6OW/lyqTC10biGx7tTXACondLnIeAg+WBurGAVV Wz1Ru8uF6kqq/0rOItfCLmzIXy/lImFd+41XWdzi5SrBaxJOqeBA72S7lazCPjsTwc7u kvuO3HmS94pjAN7dBPDXx4aNb2T8TWdUxPN3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=caJx5/q3vde/uLiKq6WYHqEwRQb7rGWySfL9J4P5boanehQH3T+Psq0QxNYhgQ6pF7 A3Dum2LbcHiCAOPpX9dOS4vqpGx6cEt8+AyPJUcNKOD7QrOlKRp4zmPAj8Q/jRFAaZyB JpT7VfhWdIULWAw0xf4yZRc5nc9T2S50KELaI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:09:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1QiumQ_rgwI6uTs3QVjaPAfTOnE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a5fd41935049b0ca711 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:09:25 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a5fd41935049b0ca711 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Interesting thread. I must say that Im totally with Rick when it comes to making loops that dont sound "real". Why should they? In todays world its so easy to make things sound "real" on a recording, that live it seems a bit silly. There are so many options in the computer artistes palette, it seems very restrictive to choose "real sounding drums" when theses sounds can be made by... hitting real drums. I must say I veer from Ricks opinion about the musician HAVING to make the rythyms "on the spot". I have never seen the problem in using pre-made loops that spin in and out of the mix. Theres no worse kinda looping to me than this " Watch and marvel as I create a whole track out of nothing... "Heres the drums, here comes the bass, here comes the rythym.. then 5 minutes into the track we have all the instruments going and the song can now start" Im a guitarist, why the fuck should I have to be a drummer too... fuck that. People can see Im drumming on my guitar neck or beat-boxing because I dont have a friend who can actually PLAY the drums... but If I use a drum machine or loops, well then its just seems part of the track... Now dont get me wrong, drumming on the neck i of course a totally usable guitarist technique, but its a bit dull at looping shows when I have to sit thru a few minutes of the guy setting up the loops... the days are gone where I would marvel at looping, "OooOOohh how clever" .. Every kid in Norway has at least a RC20 now, I see a tiny bit of looping at most shows I go to, but very few are "loopers" of the LD variety. What differentiates us from the crowd (not to get too elitists about it) is that we have dedicated our whole sound to looping, as such.. arn't we also over the... "Everything I do must be done BY looping" thing. Just my 2 kroners Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549a5fd41935049b0ca711 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting thread.

I must say that Im totally with Rick when it com= es to making loops that dont sound "real". Why should they? In to= days world its so easy to make things sound "real"=A0 on a record= ing, that live it seems a bit silly.=A0 There are so many options in the co= mputer artistes palette, it seems very restrictive to choose "real sou= nding drums" when theses sounds can be made by... hitting real drums. =

I must say I veer from Ricks opinion about the musician HAVING to make = the rythyms "on the spot". I have never seen the problem in using= pre-made loops that spin in and out of the mix.

Theres no worse ki= nda looping to me than this " Watch and marvel as I create a whole tra= ck out of nothing...
"Heres the drums, here comes the bass, here comes the rythym.. then 5 = minutes into the track we have all the instruments going and the song can n= ow start"
Im a guitarist, why the fuck should I have to be a drumme= r too... fuck that. People can see Im drumming on my guitar neck or beat-bo= xing because I dont have a friend who can actually PLAY the drums... but If= I use a drum machine or loops, well then its just seems part of the track.= ..
Now dont get me wrong, drumming on the neck i of course a totally usable gu= itarist technique, but its a bit dull at looping shows when I have to sit t= hru a few minutes of the guy setting up the loops... the days are gone wher= e I would marvel at looping, "OooOOohh how clever" .. Every kid i= n Norway has at least a RC20 now, I see a tiny bit of looping at most shows= I go to, but very few are "loopers" of the LD variety. What diff= erentiates us from the crowd (not to get too elitists about it) is that we = have dedicated our whole sound to looping, as such.. arn't we also over= the...
"Everything I do must be done BY looping"
thing.

Just m= y 2 kroners

Mark


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mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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http://www.looop.no --20cf30549a5fd41935049b0ca711-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 09:15:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58ABD18347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8k1WnxLCWEzs4K6hPZ4Xy68pSLlRtxNVvQ+3C5IpYJw=; b=kUXHEFG601edZ0BFJzsVwD6e1SsUqnWMZnb9RrxPA99MasXw882cYEZTApsRr4MKrX imhI9Vx+0Hl3+vKPCXbpFDISCzO2X+CAUW7plAesv2mt2G7tICZFuPZUuLdtZRJ5jFUo +9Tg3dH/2uwXB4ji0iKOj+wv8//1FNa1shYUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gpq3d8o0VkAjHAOqQUymBmBXBZMaxllJUZKY4TKfb5vKqJ2s2973HSzNOlpB3leXht 9kQlVt6teJ4Juv7kxHR5qsVoE2nAY5IfcYwa43Sr4ILyUTSj87nGQh6DUG3WEg7Di0rQ RQSKXg2DaHKTC2n5MFvwMXFhVA+vrHwDYqfUc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D374645.7000307@cruzio.com> References: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> <4D374645.7000307@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 01:15:04 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fc482191932049b0cbcb0 Resent-Message-ID: <1P0xeD.A.iBH.awSRNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:15:06 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba4fc482191932049b0cbcb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just downloaded the trial, it's unlimited for 10 days. It took a couple attempts to get the routing working in ableton, but the help file is good. Very cool, and very different from glitch. Thanks for the heads up on this, it's going to take some time to get my head around it. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > >> via gearjunkies.com: >> http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/ >> >> Another thingie for intuitively mashing up audio input with the electronic >> dance folks in mind. >> >> Rainer >> >> Maha and I sat through the entire demo of this piece of software. > It's really amazing what it can do and it's very, very deep. > > They offered it at NAMM for $150 and the street price is $250 > but I, alas, just didn't have the moolah to pick it up. > > For me, it's dream software. Very, very hip real time manipulation of > both > triggering and pitch whilst always staying in sync with whatever incoming > audio is happening. > > rick walker > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --90e6ba4fc482191932049b0cbcb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just downloaded the trial, it's unlimited for 10 days. It took a coup= le attempts to get the routing working in ableton, but the help file is goo= d. Very cool, and very different from glitch. Thanks for the heads up on th= is, it's going to take some time to get my head around it.

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Rick Walke= r <looppool@cru= zio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:
via gearjunkies.com:
http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/

Another thingie for intuitively mashing up audio input with the electronic = dance folks in mind.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer

Maha and I sat through the entire demo of this piece of software.
It's really amazing what it can do and it's very, very deep.

They offered it at NAMM for $150 =A0and the street price is $250
but I, alas, just didn't have the moolah to pick it up.

For me, =A0it's dream software. =A0 Very, very hip real time manipulati= on of both
triggering and pitch whilst always staying in sync with whatever incoming a= udio is happening.

rick walker




--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/= artsimon
--90e6ba4fc482191932049b0cbcb0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 10:03:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8E3B18347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O0rVE9PWpQ8vHT5uvxDCFhlPUMHBcpgrgWnNOPkINA4=; b=cuA0OSJawKVxN6FHuq4It8PjDfZ7CpR4wbRu0H3tCrV25KMeWKEtJa5vey8qD4q+Iq qL94R3FHH4BCoIik2ZX7i0psNlMQMSyB0l9GCHibvpFfvXulStwSH8E4A6Vjza8DLHp6 0ytsjZOFJQgYFWxGTOoPM4i389R59xPCQP0Tc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZC1AlBs3DCmpro59vuqgTwHxXE3h/rLZFj+g2UyCYh5Y7ZtsOX9JhCIP0dlj7wKxbb +MgYyFiu7ftvoVTZRo/oE6p2IMilQeKSJEZQvcrM45GBkUb2zxyQWrP6wHIMIFoqQesA RCfiwjEWjrwn1ABlAjuzMSyY6OhaM1M2EEDDQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:03:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:03:43 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:09 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Theres no worse kinda looping to me than this " Watch and marvel as I create > a whole track out of nothing... > "Heres the drums, here comes the bass, here comes the rythym.. then 5 > minutes into the track we have all the instruments going and the song can > now start" Yes, a big challenge in live looping is to create complex multi part music FAST! For me the scripting in Mobius has helped a lot to get right at the musical essential with less boring "transportation time". Another solution is to make each part interesting in itself, maybe by strategically choosing the best order for adding parts - so that each new part raises a question mark that will be answered by the next added part, thus creating a "questions vs answers" flow out of the otherwise boring part-building phase. A third technique - that once inspired Matthias Grob to come up with the idea for the EDP - is to not play music that simply stacks parts on top of each other but to make the music evolve by changing it over time, replacing parts, adding new layers, fading out old stuff, fading in new stuff etc etc. Rick, that initiated this thread, also talks a lot about "changing the loops as you are performing" and he sure does that a lot in his shows. I've even seen him improvise a decent ending to stop a live looping piece that didn't immediately take off in an interesting way. By doing that you still turn the "failure" into a decent piece of music, although very short ;-), and you can go on with a new piece that will then sound even more interesting as it takes over from the preceding "less interesting" piece. Live looping is a lot about taking on the audience's perspective on what you are doing as you are instantly doing it. When performing you are both the conductor, the orchestra and the audience at the same time (composer too if doing impro). IMHO that's what it's about, having that split vision/hearing while creating. > arn't we also over the... > "Everything I do must be done BY looping" > thing. I love looping but one thing that never stops annoying me with loopping is that you can't do ritardandi or accelerandi! This frustration has led me to come up with live sound design that makes a non-looping instrument sound similar in timbre to a stuffed looper, so that I will be able to go from free playing into live looping and back again with not too much feel of creating a musical break. This makes it easier to combine the repeating machine like feel of loops with an organic flow of rhythmically free playing. Picking up the Stick is for me another way to achieve more instantly playable musical parts without the need of looping one part before playing the additional part. If you listen to Kora music you may find that it actually is "live looping music but without the technical looping". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 10:26:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 295DB18347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=icUfwLUEpm9h+9f2hqWUg5POS4gFbKO7wLvEWvHKR0A=; b=rt1fh454LAgZVvfkM6ZVhgc6Bjsc7TDVpqc/CO05V7UPRG3UbVPPOa7AxptFW+bp6K b18IUF3BlDwcUe8IQRptCPV86MY7ti233N4+mRsQay3Im66GSvZj/JobSTTsJ0SEgpEP iLd3yT1GSvOiav6T0kDbUO25QjrQd6c6oNKIA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=mvNtjALOQ0q8M9PPXeWjhdQTNZLEoQv7Qvev17VJAQO/TXlnnIa2pTuthC5rkDITBP jwEyrg0Nny+QWh4olEQDUE+XOZ2KoQtVpYpTwl3OMSeN/0286vl00kKOn1aHHTnm59Vt FHgT5znq4/jcmZ/2cQlZEiwXRkuUP44Szq/gg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> <4D374645.7000307@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:26:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: W7vtAcOYtoP7tOEakZBWNXpxft8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a15f34440b049b0dbb33 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:26:27 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a15f34440b049b0dbb33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I bought this immediately, and is already an integral part of my live band setup... not really for the glitchy "play the thing while I listen" thing, but as a chop n slice machine... I set all my patches to "latch" and this way I get the best of both worlds... On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Art Simon wrote: > I just downloaded the trial, it's unlimited for 10 days. It took a couple > attempts to get the routing working in ableton, but the help file is good. > Very cool, and very different from glitch. Thanks for the heads up on this, > it's going to take some time to get my head around it. > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> >>> via gearjunkies.com: >>> http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/ >>> >>> Another thingie for intuitively mashing up audio input with the >>> electronic dance folks in mind. >>> >>> Rainer >>> >>> Maha and I sat through the entire demo of this piece of software. >> It's really amazing what it can do and it's very, very deep. >> >> They offered it at NAMM for $150 and the street price is $250 >> but I, alas, just didn't have the moolah to pick it up. >> >> For me, it's dream software. Very, very hip real time manipulation of >> both >> triggering and pitch whilst always staying in sync with whatever incoming >> audio is happening. >> >> rick walker >> >> > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054a15f34440b049b0dbb33 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I bought this immediately, and is already an integral part of my live band = setup... not really for the glitchy "play the thing while I listen&quo= t; thing, but as a chop n slice machine... I set all my patches to "la= tch" and this way I get the best of both worlds...



On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Ar= t Simon <simart@gm= ail.com> wrote:
I just downloaded the trial, it's unlimited for 10 days. It took a coup= le attempts to get the routing working in ableton, but the help file is goo= d. Very cool, and very different from glitch. Thanks for the heads up on th= is, it's going to take some time to get my head around it.

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Rick Walke= r <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:
via gearjunkies.com:
http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/

Another thingie for intuitively mashing up audio input with the electronic = dance folks in mind.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer

Maha and I sat through the entire demo of this piece of software.
It's really amazing what it can do and it's very, very deep.

They offered it at NAMM for $150 =A0and the street price is $250
but I, alas, just didn't have the moolah to pick it up.

For me, =A0it's dream software. =A0 Very, very hip real time manipulati= on of both
triggering and pitch whilst always staying in sync with whatever incoming a= udio is happening.

rick walker




--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
= myspace [dot] com/artsimon



--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf3054a15f34440b049b0dbb33-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 11:10:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6519618347D; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 573309685/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.186.113/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.186.113 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AscBAB3WRE1V0rpx/2dsb2JhbAAMlkzJT4VOBI9a X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,400,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="573309685" Message-ID: <4D454749.6030000@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:11:05 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:10:50 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Interesting thread. > Reminds me of what I wanted to say about Mark's demo http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/thewindow-1-05 forget the layer of loop windowing (the purpose of the demo) for a moment and listen to the backing loop. It's a very simple part that drives the piece, but at the same time it doesn't get boring simply because it doesn't draw attention to itself. ...and harmonically simple it doesn't restrict the layers above. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 14:17:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82B2718347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-10-261961914"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <7EB7C96D-39E0-4A8C-A43F-B9262E892777@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Rick's percussion post Thread-Index: AcvAh8VxWUKYc6CHTluA1YcHAK10CQ== From: "Andy Owens" Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:12:21 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2011 14:17:17.0297 (UTC) FILETIME=[66342610:01CBC088] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:17:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10-261961914 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow, such a great place to learn here.=20 Mark scribed: ( can you scribe on a keyboard?;) ) ---- make the music evolve by changing it over time, replacing parts, adding new layers, fading out old stuff, fading in new stuff etc etc ---- Man that is the hard part, thanks God for feedback!!! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 14:52:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F4BF183480; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_j6NC1dIc/UNPWhGkpdWh+g)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-30_05:2011-01-28,2011-01-30,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1101300041 Message-id: From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: looping without machines (Re: Rick's percussion post) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:52:54 -0700 References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:52:56 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_j6NC1dIc/UNPWhGkpdWh+g) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:03 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > When performing you are both the conductor, the orchestra > and the audience at the same time (composer too if doing impro). IMHO > that's what it's about, having that split vision/hearing while > creating. Yes, where it's part of the whole and not "here's my looping and now I'm going to play my real instrument, and now some more looping and now .... - on and on. > "live looping music but without the technical looping". check out Adreas Stahel << YouTube - Andreas Stahel >> and the band "Memorize the Sky" (ambient soundscapy stuff done with "real" instruments similar to the ambient soundscapey stuff done with by "looper") Cheers. Paul www.soundcloud.com/r369improv www.youtube.com/r369improv > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > --Boundary_(ID_j6NC1dIc/UNPWhGkpdWh+g) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
On Jan 30, 2011, at = 3:03 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

When = performing you are both the conductor, the orchestra
and the audience = at the same time (composer too if doing impro). IMHO
that's what it's = about, having that split vision/hearing while
creating.

Yes,= where it's part of the whole and not "here's my looping and now I'm = going to play my real instrument, and now some more looping and now .... = - on and on. 


"live looping music but without the technical = looping".


check = out Adreas Stahel <<  YouTube - Andreas = Stahel >> and the band "Memorize the Sky" (ambient = soundscapy stuff done with "real" instruments similar to the ambient = soundscapey stuff done with by = "looper")

Cheers.

Paul
www.youtube.com/r369improv<= /div>


Greetings from = Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
ww= w.looproom.com internet music = hub


= --Boundary_(ID_j6NC1dIc/UNPWhGkpdWh+g)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 15:00:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D144418347C; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=k4oNZhg8XwDIelS0bEb2ovhDvrQlk0k5RVSbuneSHOc=; b=sI4ehc27UHX9uyeKj48FXXi3Q+NtAUUxoRyeTwODXVYrBSTswgZOplh20fxkVeGzn5 HGt9eGI/HuZmyB6bGm4NVdw8mIAinOFCK5nGB58IQtDV1RLNGWKg9diLIDZEPPfoWVEb Mzm+FSSgBgBUnNQCLv12T0b9NtzUFO3pnp/ck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Hu+C9KkKHKmp8lwATBJMpXBwq90zpTA0/U4v1KgIhYVHt7bZ9rqI5Tj8EeXnwBDah7 cCcuSwg35sz6dNzLAUyAD5g9HtY7sgxygc2qEOs2Uh9sQuIgbD7tGUo0CGmfTU/o4lDm KEgqf8ElAgEmA9RuqIl7l1lLeblfcfVgfgavM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7EB7C96D-39E0-4A8C-A43F-B9262E892777@1800dialword.com> References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> <7EB7C96D-39E0-4A8C-A43F-B9262E892777@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:00:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:00:54 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > And Mark said > > =C2=A0=C2=A0" .. Every kid in Norway has at least a RC20 now, > > Man thats my kind of country, do they get them when they are born or is > there some application process???? LOL! Female babies get a pink RC20 and male babies get a blue. Gotta love Norway! ;-) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 15:31:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6792D18347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=p/aK3dsOWciqCmGSKOYN49xN6OL93PkAZs01UMdD4fo=; b=R0bFQPGYWDIQ0bGHGM/KgdSTiyJI00/Q6goYgOOJ8LCqEuU8pludy6cHKxmul9hV7y QzfqM0NMEUqOdOLr+X42OtZhmHg0xH/v+0UcQu4ZzFrGHrjjcG0nXHvufxJXXsgNnnr4 hcn128kYhpC66/B3f7QcGiPpOVIhK6Z594lKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Cmw9eH6wor+C3DjuXiu6K4RkGj3SVIDQajNkWv51fWYSDnkBJ2EBXtpZA6iE1aqPqZ PlFUk9/FAFvaZLZDv1PM/h4uBjdJfbl1ukdh3UJa/W5gPLbehHqKGnrT2raqEyricW1W wcxm5Qed4EVDG8qYZUy/e7H2KK03IwDH+e6Gw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> <7EB7C96D-39E0-4A8C-A43F-B9262E892777@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:31:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a4f1682fb7049b11fd4d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:31:16 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a4f1682fb7049b11fd4d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Have to completely disagree, on my home country at least. Here in Finland havent seen live looping but only in couple occasions. When I did my first shows, people were very interested how it's done etc. The live music is basic bands, even in the experimental circles there are very few loopers in Finland. 2011/1/30 Per Boysen > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > > And Mark said > > > > " .. Every kid in Norway has at least a RC20 now, > > > > Man thats my kind of country, do they get them when they are born or is > > there some application process???? > > > LOL! Female babies get a pink RC20 and male babies get a blue. Gotta > love Norway! ;-) > > per > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a4f1682fb7049b11fd4d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have to completely disagree, on my home country at least.

Here in Fi= nland havent seen live looping but only in couple occasions.
When I did = my first shows, people were very interested how it's done etc.

The live music is basic bands, even in the experimental circles there are v= ery few loopers in Finland.



2011/= 1/30 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
> And Mark said
>
> =A0=A0" .. Every kid in Norway has at least a RC20 now,
>
> Man thats my kind of country, do they get them when they are born or i= s
> there some application process????


LOL! Female babies get a pink RC20 and male babies get a blue. Gotta<= br> love Norway! ;-)

per




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http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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--20cf3054a4f1682fb7049b11fd4d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 15:39:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC3FE18347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Baby Looping References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> <7EB7C96D-39E0-4A8C-A43F-B9262E892777@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:38:24 -0500 Thread-Topic: Baby Looping Thread-Index: AcvAk8gSdrI1OMURQoGuIIU4GS0D1Q== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2011 15:39:26.0899 (UTC) FILETIME=[E079B830:01CBC093] Resent-Message-ID: <95F_d.A.qQF.wYYRNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Ga ga goo goo. Track one Goo goo gaga. Track two Psstttfdfga haha. Track three Fffffftttt. (fart). Track four Clang clang clang. Track five (found natural percussion plastic spoon for Rick) Waaaahhhhhh. Track six Wahhhhhg louder. Track seven Turn that shit off!!!!! Track eight (dad) All tracks Erase Hey give em an lp1 instead!!!! Only one color though!!!! Andy the crazy One From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 15:46:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6D1818347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CJK2WV6KQVs8/5g5mBlYiNcCpPZCulRAXwpouBxuje8=; b=QpIvRT57JaTZp50Qc9ypmA2x8FeECU8kwicf5PBUK/DR4B5iIHilo1eh6Cz05wmykq 39c0gpNg+lLvXvNtbgkb4RZ66jvtBj1zkS9Rw+pXwZ2AYa8l7L4RUHoe5d79l+VBdng9 6Gb8DhLPkM4j+YWYOw9fWgY40gKBRK5nXGNnI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VDtuvh09+TPk1KGMQGttURMhsIRJSpv1U3wFCxnoZxTD/sSa+Umu9+w8uhDZQK38d/ tXRQw9oVwAhucBRYB6Q05FOMu2zyhrbIXFUOa1GGiZKn3Maxe9x9or/yWS7Tka1W270j owV6v92rY/HspN85Z3zAq+J7XtCHFpr1MA2CY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <430FAAA3-A562-4243-9DB3-80C2469F5120@baymoon.com> References: <430FAAA3-A562-4243-9DB3-80C2469F5120@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:46:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: alternatives to rhythm sequencers software From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Hi Bill, yes this is the way ive done it in the past,however having the drum box separate fro the loopers mix is cool,i can reverse the EDPS loop while the machine goes forward,i can process the machine separately,fade it out while the loops are running,do the cool midi mute start etc. the EDP is awesome and perfectly tight,i have no problems with that,my point here is trying to do this all with software and upon comparing it,hardware is still the tightest when doing sponatenus loops EDP start,stop reverse,unrounded multiply,replace etc. i just set the EDP to "user start" and i can do all that crazy shit while i pause the drumbox and waits for me to restart it,then i can just multiply,do glitchy loops,replace,unround,then while the edp loop is running change a preset on the drumbox with a different groove and boom restart it, way fun baby! then sometimes if i want i resample the drum grooves from the adrenalinn or from the loaded drum grooves on my digitech into the EDP,and i can even stretch the tempo of the samples on it,thats a great feature on the jamman! After messing with both i made a decision,for this stuff ill stay with hardware,for non midi sync stuff or traveling ill use mobius. cant always get what u want cheers Luis On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:53 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > Dear Luis et all, I think that my old band mate and looper Gary Regina ( = and > the Genie for that matter) has the coolest and easiest way to get great d= rum > beats without resorting to midi clock, drum machines or sequencers, softw= are > etc... Simple resampling, like I think you are now on to Luis, You have t= his > great new looper that stores a huge amount of loops so use it as your bea= t > loop storage device, =A0and if you can't sync to anything, simply resampl= e > those beats on to your edp for further mangling, perfect stops and starts > etc. Gary does it on an RC 50, before that it was a original Lexicon Jamm= an. > That cool thing about this is obviously you can sample anything from your > favorite hip grooves and dance tracks, to Martin Luther King throwing dow= n > his Dream, =A0and if you don't have a looper with storage, an I-pod or CD > player =A0routed to your looper will suffice, and from a visual standpoin= t > resampling a drum groove live still gives an audience the sense of the pi= ece > being built from scratch as apposed to pressing a button to turn on the > canned tracks. > =A0Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 16:14:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3B8418347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> <7EB7C96D-39E0-4A8C-A43F-B9262E892777@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-12-269050272"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <09879CB5-DDE7-4AA4-A083-15EBDF059863@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:10:29 -0500 Thread-Topic: Rick's percussion post Thread-Index: AcvAmEUAOKUtlGzjRJWbhDCiv3nwew== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2011 16:14:32.0220 (UTC) FILETIME=[C75835C0:01CBC098] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:14:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12-269050272 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ok Finland can be Jamman's, pink and blue and Norway RC20's, pink and blue, c= ool!! Will they sync or will we have some political upheaval and peace talks= to get all the babies synced up??????? Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 30, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Have to completely disagree, on my home country at least. >=20 > Here in Finland havent seen live looping but only in couple occasions. > When I did my first shows, people were very interested how it's done etc. >=20 > The live music is basic bands, even in the experimental circles there are v= ery few loopers in Finland. >=20 >=20 >=20 > 2011/1/30 Per Boysen > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Andy Owens wrote:= > > And Mark said > > > > " .. Every kid in Norway has at least a RC20 now, > > > > Man thats my kind of country, do they get them when they are born or is > > there some application process???? >=20 >=20 > LOL! Female babies get a pink RC20 and male babies get a blue. Gotta > love Norway! ;-) >=20 > per >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -C= harles Bukowski- >=20 --Apple-Mail-12-269050272 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Ok Finland can be Jamman's, pink and blue and Norway RC20's, pink and blue, cool!! Will they sync or will we have some political upheaval and peace talks to get all the babies synced up???????

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Jan 30, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:

Have to completely disagree, on my home country at least.

Here in Finland havent seen live looping but only in couple occasions.
When I did my first shows, people were very interested how it's done etc.

The live music is basic bands, even in the experimental circles there are very few loopers in Finland.



2011/1/30 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
> And Mark said
>
>   " .. Every kid in Norway has at least a RC20 now,
>
> Man thats my kind of country, do they get them when they are born or is
> there some application process????


LOL! Female babies get a pink RC20 and male babies get a blue. Gotta
love Norway! ;-)

per




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http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
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--Apple-Mail-12-269050272-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 17:50:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACFA018347E; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=iUKjt0+i4Svx1N05MhdwLC5L69ViGnkp3AY7bH99jOM=; b=bK0evnF0FxsYz4ywMYj1vFUX/xMhep4w+1fzZqsRpwPVEDz8EbY9dtaCXDxsTFcCI/ k4y2XIaETPVcoxblEYuxaiY4uH7NuHth5wlxafg/FNpHzI7iJsmCpHgANh4to5HL8/2R P0jnd1UtLrsSeaZ12M69FzeDj9BCCjxMpWtIA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=uSRMju7IwmKOVV0XiTxigCpbHVMhTK3hKdMZmAAJ6qeSJdQkgO9x9MOQ4pwquRIdeI aAQcGJE3ATwMhbbbU4nSkajezLX9bKOX4dmSCHyY3yBein45tbSyUDUoiZgk/rmD+ior M48nDKXbvnfwL3jxu4hb0oilpWiXv0GjTtv1s= References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> <7EB7C96D-39E0-4A8C-A43F-B9262E892777@1800dialword.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:50:37 +0100 Message-ID: <-195900275563777310@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-6zcjC.A.IIC.8TaRNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:50:52 +0000 (UTC) But you got Miro!!! Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 30 Jan 2011, at 16:31, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > The live music is basic bands, even in the experimental circles there are very few loopers in Finland. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 19:43:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 559B0183478; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=c1Ct0TwjToe/lBiLXW3K9CGtBlVWRWce9VbW/ErRasc=; b=LrgJ2vHHvq5aFMi//f4KUfuxDVDC64va3YaaLpvD96trTQiwmSUXcQp5G1Vt92ivNn soIfrwU8RDL7wBNk6MH8/usVHH7AiUvRLv+fhlNYpTnAgm2SB6jBYxDEWr0ci4yQ32L3 PaJ8BC6QCLQzdXXQIM3tQW67DdJMpWxniVRb8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=F7J653iFcFaa2woi6PTxnGxKPOWFxdyJnn6k3JyAlm3zQ2yzxdFoqsVa8SRv10K58N b0ph21CvDQuM8v/RZRGf9XapMc0GZfV/BLTozGAyboHvNKCCVPL+OZ2dzmvIGlRPdu7f dKd2POAK273QxawmdENx2hQoezKdOHT3Ip3Sw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:43:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Making Your Own MIDI Cables From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers_Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555e47eedd155049b1583cf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:43:40 +0000 (UTC) --00032555e47eedd155049b1583cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I need to make about 7 short MIDI cables. I think I can just order the DIN's and chop up some mic cable I have laying around, but I might order some bulk cable.. Can anyone tell me if this 5 Pin DIN Connector will do the trick? *5 Pin DIN Connector* http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=090-341 Any knowledge you can share on cable specs for DIY MIDI cables? *Cable* http://www.cameltraders.com/product_info.php?cPath=60&products_id=2170 ++OR++ http://www.audiopile.net/products/BULK_CABLE/BULK_CABLE.shtml scroll 'bout half-way down (BCB-2067S Starline Braided Shield Mic Cable) *Construction directions* **http://www.colomar.com/Shavano/midi_cable.html http://www.suite101.com/content/how-to-wire-a-midi-cable-using-din-plugs-a114451 Should I cut the red wire... or is it the blue wire? Stories, suggestions, knowledge? hello, adam --00032555e47eedd155049b1583cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need to make about 7 short MIDI cables. I think I can just order the DIN&= #39;s and chop up some mic cable I have laying around, but I might order so= me bulk cable.. =A0Can anyone tell me if this 5 Pin DIN Connector will do t= he trick?

5 Pin DIN Connector

= Any knowledge you can share on cable specs for DIY MIDI cables?

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++OR++
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Construction=A0directions

Should I cut the red wire... or is it the blue wire? = =A0Stories, suggestions, knowledge?

hello,
adam

--00032555e47eedd155049b1583cf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 20:39:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D27118347C; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=xYWWxqORCdLN0C0GfClaDhu14Tj3vZoCWxDe6WjQ4dw=; b=sFD7RGuvyniL4xJIEO2gee+0o9LrkQyNdbvcgWvW0e5tlgfWCYhnBUkf93Joq7my2I ZvNV7vIq/EUc7jXSDr1LttK3le6s+mQwzpXZx1J73W5w89ixkzAJxQQqPIgklMnOlT5F GcPXiXIzpE7KjVuEOfzuWqOJTkG8RVZdAeslM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=RBwiDOd6xVoHRwr986dgGjkBXEV9mGC1zHo4qzDU2b4fYecSPRcY4aMxtpwQWmpGvw p+sZj54m4ZIOoDYAU8h4wlptGitXT+QK3uyePVHMFQq1AFewCGV2L2orqTF+eXUAVRcq ZIegaeTFYhTH8DJhJ1OqPX/ZNOokBpFvqQXTc= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-285199789 Subject: Re: OT: Making Your Own MIDI Cables Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:39:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:39:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-285199789 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just got some din connectors to make my first midi cables this past = week. I haven't made them yet but it doesn't seem much different than = making audio cables. You don't have to use rosin flux but that's helped = me make a solid joint when making audio cables. The connectors you have = picked out look fine. I wonder what the guy used to cover up the shield = connected to pin 2 in the picture in your suite101 link. Look like a = convenient way to prevent the shield from touching anything else. On Jan 30, 2011, at 2:43 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > I need to make about 7 short MIDI cables. I think I can just order the = DIN's and chop up some mic cable I have laying around, but I might order = some bulk cable.. Can anyone tell me if this 5 Pin DIN Connector will = do the trick? >=20 > 5 Pin DIN Connector > http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=3D090-341 >=20 > Any knowledge you can share on cable specs for DIY MIDI cables? >=20 > Cable > http://www.cameltraders.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D60&products_id=3D21= 70 > ++OR++ > http://www.audiopile.net/products/BULK_CABLE/BULK_CABLE.shtml scroll = 'bout half-way down (BCB-2067S Starline Braided Shield Mic Cable) >=20 > Construction directions > http://www.colomar.com/Shavano/midi_cable.html > = http://www.suite101.com/content/how-to-wire-a-midi-cable-using-din-plugs-a= 114451 >=20 > Should I cut the red wire... or is it the blue wire? Stories, = suggestions, knowledge? >=20 > hello, > adam >=20 Todd Matthews --Apple-Mail-1-285199789 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = just got some din connectors to make my first midi cables this past = week. I haven't made them yet but it doesn't seem much different than = making audio cables. You don't have to use rosin flux but that's helped = me make a solid joint when making audio cables. The connectors you have = picked out look fine. I wonder what the guy used to cover up the shield = connected to pin 2 in the picture in your suite101 link. Look like a = convenient way to prevent the shield from touching anything = else.
On Jan 30, 2011, at 2:43 PM, ^|>^m wrote:

I need to = make about 7 short MIDI cables. I think I can just order the DIN's and = chop up some mic cable I have laying around, but I might order some bulk = cable..  Can anyone tell me if this 5 Pin DIN Connector will do the = trick?

5 Pin DIN Connector
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=3D090-341

Any knowledge you can share on cable specs for DIY = MIDI cables?

Cable
++OR++
htt= p://www.audiopile.net/products/BULK_CABLE/BULK_CABLE.shtml =  scroll 'bout half-way down (BCB-2067S Starline Braided Shield Mic = Cable)
=

Construction directions
<= a = href=3D"http://www.colomar.com/Shavano/midi_cable.html">http://www.colomar= .com/Shavano/midi_cable.html

Should I cut the red wire... or is it the blue wire? =  Stories, suggestions, = knowledge?

hello,
adam


Todd = Matthews





= --Apple-Mail-1-285199789-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 20:50:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB127183478; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VI9s8rTjMWwIiSUZM/w7Kq3t+lHwAriWAFy2LJo3IXI=; b=nUGQClbvwCeijT6JcO2rYGNpwHf3LNdvRUaTpT1dSbqTGd96TGSeSSkkveej2xlZ7T GiHJGWo0ZcaHwvYsQcATroEPbWymMCh3AhiNo5cSnxOi8WssoqB2RoohtXPGLkbhezXm gD2esEPUlIRa95b4LyUH68IyGZBhPIK2HsQ/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nyd4LvaAWtieKHasYio6jkm+P95vg7AauKwco5QIx8KSsR5vHkwFy3e0wrnWcr2xyG xYu2heu1sLLIhIo2dCfGEwsnhIXvSXRxPBXoy1FcrUoynMbuDDBYBzoKrWLWJFIImkJm 6P92dFR537pnkEne/8TCTuLGh6mEVnEBdQtMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:50:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Making Your Own MIDI Cables From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a5b39915da049b1673c7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:50:41 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a5b39915da049b1673c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well worth the extra $ http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=NEUNYS322 Should be available at any local supply house or on line. k --20cf3054a5b39915da049b1673c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well worth the extra $
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Sho= uld be available at any local supply house or on line.
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--20cf3054a5b39915da049b1673c7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 30 21:55:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17FE6183477; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 21:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 573511945/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.186.113/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.186.113 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqoBAHptRU1V0rpx/2dsb2JhbAAMlkjHbIVOBI9a X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,402,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="573511945" Message-ID: <4D45DE68.2070808@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 21:55:52 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Making Your Own MIDI Cables References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 21:55:36 +0000 (UTC) ^|>^m wrote: > Should I cut the red wire... or is it the blue wire? Stories, > suggestions, knowledge? find a way of clamping the plug in place *before* you burn your fingers (even a pair of pliers with a rubber band round the handle will do) that's knowledge, suggestion and if you read between the lines it's a story too andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 31 00:52:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87AC1183476; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 00:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SY6jwOYn0UiPAUJGMRR83oc5nVMpJW+ZFVmF/jCgY0c=; b=s6YqbepNGgseY0UwGkUDj9CRVs8qaLi+UJecfx7fJ6dY6flRsLeyfd2YrhxMQJaSYl 8B/tojAOKPp4TpO/4yn4BcTB5Vr+BR/CmQXGQUZDdSXYW5fF8445jVUb1vSGEZobDqlc OkzyG4RxnGG78nzcs1hmJFeGhIUgSZVzkFVas= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=AoV1UCIwv4zis/dz8snpxkHXJNQq+QXSslBo3yi24W86Ndo8/ppBPXT0oFE6hy5zme 39OTMPBpMbT0kOO+5o3Cyy1EzGv1lQape5llR4U1hfP6eiEgO+MFKs6SBv46j5SG5vAK CBMpWpCgk4sPutVo8eBD/QybAakmqF163rc80= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 01:52:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Linndrum II From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 00:52:03 +0000 (UTC) wow this shoud blow some heads! http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/linndrum2/index.html Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 31 10:26:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03514183466; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=DYF+B7uATUj65T5Rjg6gquw85rKSPQI/6ZYMJxtekNU=; b=YFanVHRU2lZOf9YcAmBt0cBAUADyDwIwsp9Ribu4l0ksQ3ZCzCWqnMU6k2TZRWCg0c v9kz5YNNHlCvHDawfJvgPoJ/knBdntLnQ07hBGXaO4LDENnXpzwPAXjlv3RfaLX9K8Su /O7YKVXHbgDYSLbDRbcOZ6c4YsNP5iBgyPO6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=x7K0pu0GE7YOVtdTZQ0X4r0Hl2V/vnExSk8bRmwMFJ1rPxPkOQuWF88g5+izGWOoVS Bw8bh1NqxNM9/M+gPSY41VBtBkJmDKDZHZ8XUSLyK8VZoyzxoQlur6mkorxSwAZGarZx X6TW4ULv1waqOpLpTWtHme4ACuKDijVTUFBRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Todd Matthews Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 05:26:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Michael Jackson looped on Double Bass To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a031ad8b9e049b21dab1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:26:53 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a031ad8b9e049b21dab1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I made another looping video this weekend. This time a cover of Michael Jackson's Billie Jean. It's perfect timing to post to the list after Rick's post about using your own instrument for percussion and Mark's post about how much he hates looper's building up their loops, which I do in this video. Hopefully the bright pop tempo offsets it:) http://vimeo.com/19364422 I'm happy to hear any comments good, bad, or ugly. -Todd Matthews --20cf3054a031ad8b9e049b21dab1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I made another looping video this weekend. This time a cover of Michael Jac= kson's Billie Jean. It's perfect timing to post to the list after R= ick's post about using your own instrument for percussion and Mark'= s post about how much he hates looper's building up their loops, which = I do in this video. Hopefully the bright pop tempo offsets it:)





I'm happy to hear any comments good, bad, or ugly.=A0



-Todd Matthews
--20cf3054a031ad8b9e049b21dab1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 31 10:28:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AC22183473; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fccXgHQt6ggL/zx+nwQffBV69ImfcvfTZnZdndpRV5s=; b=Iz5m2SyjWoPWFtmIa2wThjUEE5Dw4onfdCPkGh5kaF3iVcRrLfYUwMgyG/rjHo+QlH W1LrG4O7LHf8KOVCaZOaH5PwJvrewiE8CmecBLt9IveWeJZearlmmte66jEl0/xcloZ7 18Bx4TkyXIbrtsBAGQLzTwmo6XL7w8TwbZ2dI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wzSdT2W4Z+1dwWMlf8jA4be/B7EmLMrTjrGAdvqMSthZLCY/EMum0+8OYuVgV0fyZl 5PGBZDkBh/MzAC0bCLSLq/GrvwvJskL4pz/XAyn/ZLjgJnJb64Pyp8XPuoHt2bXsgskY rgr2mxXya/Sz4GR0uTYw1GD9tDg5NRBrxKlIg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Michael Jackson looped on Double Bass From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a4f143c01f049b21e1c0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:28:53 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a4f143c01f049b21e1c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 God bless the builders of the Loops! NICE ONE! :-) 2011/1/31 Todd Matthews > I made another looping video this weekend. This time a cover of Michael > Jackson's Billie Jean. It's perfect timing to post to the list after Rick's > post about using your own instrument for percussion and Mark's post about > how much he hates looper's building up their loops, which I do in this > video. Hopefully the bright pop tempo offsets it:) > > > http://vimeo.com/19364422 > > > > I'm happy to hear any comments good, bad, or ugly. > > > > -Todd Matthews > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a4f143c01f049b21e1c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable God bless the builders of the Loops!

NICE ONE!

:-)

2011/1/31 Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border= -left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> I made another looping video this weekend. This time a cover of Michael Jac= kson's Billie Jean. It's perfect timing to post to the list after R= ick's post about using your own instrument for percussion and Mark'= s post about how much he hates looper's building up their loops, which = I do in this video. Hopefully the bright pop tempo offsets it:)





I'm happy to hear any comments good, bad, or ugly= .=A0



-Todd Matthews



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--20cf3054a4f143c01f049b21e1c0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 31 11:12:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19CB118345B; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3FB94DEEA50D407BA71DE4CCB213D9EA@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: "Plan 9 from Outer Space" now available for viewing Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:12:34 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01CBC137.C2C93780" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:12:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CBC137.C2C93780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BFThe broadcast was a broadband train-wreck but I=E2=80=99ve = edited all the pieces together and mounted the infamous dialogue on top = (but not so much to obscure my playing) after all this time. Ed Wood Jr=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9CPlan 9 from Outer Space=E2=80=9D is now = viewable/listenable on Vimeo. Enjoy! http://www.vimeo.com/19360748 Stephen Goodman EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net http://www.earthlight.tv * Sent from a PC, not an iPhone ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CBC137.C2C93780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Ed=20 Wood Jr=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9CPlan 9 from Outer Space=E2=80=9D is now = viewable/listenable on Vimeo. =20 Enjoy!
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CBC137.C2C93780-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 31 13:52:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62A2018345A; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:51:59 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <-195900275563777310@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <20110131135159.5550@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> <7EB7C96D-39E0-4A8C-A43F-B9262E892777@1800dialword.com> <-195900275563777310@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/xWTsmqhvxwfF3o2MBqMQiF1OfcU9xpiedWqbQoS 71U1r/F+mStqNgCIKdBcIaEiKd2loMGqt3ew== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: SIZwfBkxYmYBcZ8snnY3061CWkZTQVTv Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Great discussion! Personally, I used to layer beatboxing ryhthm with various effects. Now, I prefer doing it the "lazy way" just looping the Korg Wavedrum. I was kind of bored with trying to mimick a drum with vocals - when I could just do the real thing (or close to it with the Wavedrum). Another thing is that I find it's important - for the audience interaction - is to focus more on the immediate performance rather than on artistically composing multiple layers. The looping layer's form the mood of the performance. But it's really the immediate performance where the whole attention is. Then, lately, I prefer to keep looping minimal (whatever is absolutely necessary) to give the music more room to breath, making it sound more natural. Also, occasionally stopping the looper and just performing "free time" in between helps. best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX De-Mail - Einfach wie E-Mail, sicher wie ein Brief! Jetzt De-Mail-Adresse reservieren: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/demail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 31 15:24:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2863B18345A; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: DE77 Da1j EIcj FLeD Fz+1 HgxM HvoA IOGo JeGR J9gv KR40 KWN1 KtYM K0p7 LRdW MCkF;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{96EDA990-70A9-42B4-8CF3-75CD07BC4CC5};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:23:27 GMT;QgBhAGIAeQAgAEwAbwBvAHAAZQByAHMA x-cr-puzzleid: {96EDA990-70A9-42B4-8CF3-75CD07BC4CC5} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Baby Loopers Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:23:27 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A5323F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <20110131135159.5550@gmx.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Baby Loopers Thread-Index: AcvBTg3SCcEJsA4KRXGanpHzhmuTPwADJ4tw References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> <7EB7C96D-39E0-4A8C-A43F-B9262E892777@1800dialword.com> <-195900275563777310@unknownmsgid> <20110131135159.5550@gmx.net> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2011 15:24:23.0060 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0289540:01CBC15A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:24:25 +0000 (UTC) V2VsbCB0aGUgTm9yd2VnaWFuIGFuZCBGaW5uaXNoIGJhYnkgbG9vcGVycyBpbnZhZGVkIG15IHN0 dWRpbywgd2hhdCBhIG1lc3MhIQ0KDQpodHRwOi8vc291bmRjbG91ZC5jb20vYW5keW93ZW5zL2xv b3BpbmctYmFiaWVzDQoNCg0KQW5keSB0aGUgTw0KDQo= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 31 17:26:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7047118345A; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=an98y5ivDKTBV2Eaoj+kiWyWFJZ3myhtpGLPi4/OT2c=; b=ELjWs25let+SSLJT6hP0fIVc1EHljDweF13SIPHmihjmLdO01ytM8nr1eJkDilpDDc VsgiqUbU4MyEBwsNW7YLIKAUcNuu38LobYcGN8n2dFnTqMa9rV+TOyaVwd6vFf9K855O xg8Sdtws7VL5VfZAjYMOGNRkuIgH6rMNMfkSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GGIiEc/JnJGN8U39vBaMIK5SGVzW0K/SeCSoRhomm5dY3wGnOQYa6hg6RkmjiL3Y7J IfTduzXf8O1HbXi+coOJJHA/2GAQ01Bpqxiz6GXaWms2NXxUcYjxqzo6uP1xXjdbqF3B XtKQNGS4manHk3/ItxrvCfRblenP44ydxuiho= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A5323F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> <7EB7C96D-39E0-4A8C-A43F-B9262E892777@1800dialword.com> <-195900275563777310@unknownmsgid> <20110131135159.5550@gmx.net> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07A5323F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:26:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Baby Loopers From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b558be3dcb049b27b815 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:26:53 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b558be3dcb049b27b815 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable funny Andy... like the voices and ending chaos... Will friend you or whatever they call it on Soundcloud http://soundcloud.com/jimgoodinmusic On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Well the Norwegian and Finnish baby loopers invaded my studio, what a > mess!! > > http://soundcloud.com/andyowens/looping-babies > > > Andy the O > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001636c5b558be3dcb049b27b815 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable funny Andy... like the voices and ending chaos...

Will f= riend you or whatever they call it on Soundcloud

<= a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/jimgoodinmusic">http://soundcloud.com/jimgo= odinmusic

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Andy Owens= <andy@1800di= alword.com> wrote:
Well the Norwegian and Finnish baby loopers invaded my studio, what a mess!= !

http://soundcloud.com/andyowens/looping-babies


Andy the O




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from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--001636c5b558be3dcb049b27b815-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 31 20:40:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB73F183459; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1788 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:40:20 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h= message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=helpwantedproductions.com; b=V1ylps6b2wqPFCnpNEQ06uW142kQwR7lFOjpc3mgGAYaJnwDNOX6lmzBp8ox4 naCqdohkTwjRAS6smcY3PrkQyea2pk21mTo7vT1R6gczeQsHAjJZhM1iK+/0luZp FPXvMmKznRl8nYOzqXuOC8xa03pUTJERKdp3Uau95IV+4I= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=helpwantedproductions.com; bh=6Piib JddbqaioX93/x3a3LNoO+g=; b=kREh81QZfepK5mZzYhhHrhZigcunlVYkTgnqp Zc2y3wruQc4szBOrJIpsbFUZZnPom8IoA0UbXg91N5SS3QXJ2f78BemRIOUCeKoX 1+QyxiT1igVfYs31h83n6HYbmzv7KRAxVnAFit73fAAOIzXloggiWqQcqA48N7Ed +ZcC9o= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:10:27 -0800 Subject: FS: Monome, Nice Semi Hollow- gtr, DUAL VCO module,Trigger/Midi interface, etc From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Synth DIY" , "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Sold some stuff. Some buyers never showed. Posting again :) Pics UP at: http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm 1. GORGEOUS Ibanez AS73T blue semi Hollow with Tremolo and HS case -=20 Asking $450 ONO. Set neck with classic yet modern tremelo. Plays like butter and perfect for pretty much any style music. Even sounds good unplugged. You MUST see the pics of this to appreciate. Single owner (me!) and still the only guitar I have ever bought new. This is a GORGEOUS blue with fancy cream binding and pearloid inlay throughout= . Near mint condition (see pics) with beautiful wood and polished chrome hardware. NO nicks or marks and case is original Ibanez form fitting hardshell with thick blue felt and gold latches. 2. Monome 40h - $350.00 8X8 PC or Mac USB interface synth/sampler/controller. All sorts of free software running under MAX/MSP (free runtime available). All LEDs (GREEN!), interface, etc work (I was running it on a Windows XP laptop.) 3. Some Synthesizer MODULEs: A. 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Roland PM-16 trigger to Midi interface - $35 Versatile old school trigger in (from any pad, piezo element, etc) to mid= i note out. 16 mono channels with hardware trim pots, working pads built i= n as well, etc. Includes original manual but PS (tested with PS) not included. This has (among other things) dynamic pitch, a feature not found on most older or newer instruments. Perfect for the experimenter or those on a budget. 5. DAED Feedback Synth - $200 (sale price Mention this post) Last of the initial handmade batch. Awesome little noisemeister with banana patching, two vcos, sub, filter, and cool ass Atari 1 of 1 design. Other stuff up on the page including vintage pedals, circuit bent gunk an= d more: http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm I think prices are reasonable but if you're buying more than one thing or making this easier on me with a pickup, etc I'll listen to serious offers= . TERMS: Pickup in Phila Pa or buyer pays shipping. I accept Paypal personal payment (or add 4% for fees) and USPS MO. References out the wazoo. Bleep out! --=20 --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Music and More at the Mothership: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 31 22:09:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DECCD18345B; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KytHpGSrhunc6hCyTtnA0wgQk0ilxwLT4WBEwzVyo/U=; b=QqRVcT2XHGdcgEq2SNm/60EIBn0VsS+dyzOcdpDiPv0YbWR97lgToWclRZ5PdloW4L NKMda3zKxUuK5jNBY1Q2Irg7uOgaxppLTgAWliP8VQTYdJ2H7eDCTvr15d9TnjNPQbN6 0ghBtKnkDJbjZoR6UiquR4xUro18YMIxE1Ayk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EsY+E5ydnoD0jDM53Gjx71MGRqiXdRXlkagFFQb6gJgvm7xQyLD4uV3WTXXOIXLyl8 cKjwK1zEcU/6aCOot5tq0anySGIu69WpqHRKuPMA6gMA8f3b+4wBSG8m/lZYKoo2rHoW Doxq5Kag7JX9uxewSFrCUJuzj4fKdrZ+QyymM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:09:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Thanx i hear you brosky,im just experimenting with it really,the fun thing about the adrenalinn is those crazy filters,they are meant for guitar but if u apply them to the drums they take way the sterility of the precanned.And syncing them to the homebrewed EDPs loops it can be fun.The thing has been sitting in a box with all my toys for a while so im having fun playing with it again. I totally agree that live it might be more fo an eye catcher,i guess im looking for quicker ways to do the whole looping thing,i get bored sometimes,perhaps lazy trying to avoid that typical time to construct a groove with my mouth,seems like everyone is doing it now,and im not very good a it anyway,even less when i watch guys like kid Beyond or that guy DubFX i mean this guys really have something beatbox to show. But to be honest the minute i hear people rapping to them i get turned off. cheers Luis > > As an example, =A0I love and support Luis Angulo to do anything he wants = to do > with his Adrenallin in performance, but > personally, =A0I love it the most when he's not using programmed beats bu= t > playing percussion himself. =A0 He's > one funky motherfunker, in my opinion and the visceral quality of what he > loops, percussively is always outstanding. > > We're looping so it's artificial as hell, but , to me, =A0it feels more '= real' > to do it that way. > Here's to illusion!!! > > respectfully, =A0 rick walker > >