From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 00:27:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B253E3BE91; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 00:27:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2uX8n8JgJiB13dauRK8LUcL7Nj8QmRy8B4lx0PrjcX4=; b=KWtRz+mMJPKr8NnZlXQXyTJWqb/41KMU6HIPy/8aKVb/3GDUiIKxETDHMoacIMiarf hpwrRozWbFQA3axiFV/SBFH0Yuk6ZyWMUKSDDe26lJvgQz654ozKaMD+kUk2ZlW/EzM9 M5kEx51cRNMtu+vt9L2OL0KNEp5sMr7tMnQho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QW6NB0cl94qR02VJcRaFKqvbOSxrYRE8ech9BZXP3OSPbvExIHZ6+AXNrFUiZGwQK/ 8syC5ypCXWgHvQzrnM5ICbQAFqi39zQ8KlrICBdZfcC26YlvEc54YQyaI6z5UsNMZBmy Ae3HmH+76Vh/mzoklcsOXJslA2doWQzkpl6PA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 01:27:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 00:27:44 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from > using delays for my looping and have never been really comfortable with > "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for me. Yep, you can say that, and we use similar setups btw. I started looping with the DD-20 and I'm still using it as a spare looper in case my laptop crashes. I have tried the RC-50 but didn't like it due to the lack of feedback control. Next was the LP1, great concept but my unit it needs to be repared, so I can't use it now and will probably sell it once it's repaired. Probably my own fault, I fried the input amps when creating some drones ;-) I currently use a M13 and a Lexicon for pre-FX and then the signal goes into the laptop for some more FX treatment plus 2 instances of Augustus Loop, the great tape delay plugin from our friend Os. I use Augustus the same way as I use the DD-20, which means a pre-defined loop length, and unsynced. I must say this setup is very stable now, but in case something happens, I have the M13 and DD-20 as a backup system. The DD-20 saved my ass already once, that was during the Premonition Factory album presentation earlier this year. I only had the DD-20 as backup then and 1 synth, that was almost a sort of unplugged looping ;-) I was hoping the Rang III would be the 1st compact stereo looper with 3 unsynced tracks with feedback control, reverse, half speed and good audio specs and headroom, yes please. Or otherwise Boss should create the Delay DD-200 Super Delay with 3 extended DD-20's on board, with reverse and halfspeed and 40 seconds of stereo looping per delay. That would be just perfect for ambient. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 01:21:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 368163BE90; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 01:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=gcN6QFGOQsJH1Vf7Wnd+ph8XzFJEbQ8V1X1JCUC8W3U=; b=ckb6lKKhDNsRvdp9CIWmB75H5f0tg+jPApjrOZo8yNYKrluQNNNJCDTtvOny3mm62Y hyRkJ9Q8ZV4suHtvZ1zvtfKawDg6o+YGa3BWDZfkzz3We70fje0ViiOFz2EoRozgiYdN ku8Le/Xa0rEvWCrTBoYvwh/KQZZ+CwwzFT5o0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=V5yqKRuWTlAB3npRZ++bCYUyDeK+gynK3NzXVFX1joHdXKisgAqbKpuIibNLVr7CrW Eb71wbL4t/3XsVAo0fEHm87vDJa8yrjzue9Csal519KSfEzIX8iV1YBC1wiLiyNY45FJ nWXUkxAqZ5gVlnOpnIceZHLUb7vz9C4EdcKT4= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-1029621618 Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:21:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 01:21:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-1029621618 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So I just finished my first ambient looping experience on the Rang 3:)=20= So theres a decay knob on the left side on the rang that you can turn up = which is similar to feedback. If you turn it all the way up then your = previous overdub will only play once and if its all the way down it does = phrase sampling, repeating the loop continuously at the same level. I = tried it out with the decay knob set right to the center, inbetween the = two extremes, and it did a nice job of slowly fading out my previous = loops as I added more overdubs. What seems different with this than with = an delay pedal is that decay does not start to happen till after you = record your first loop and then put it into stacking(overdub) mode. So = your first loop will repeat it itself at the same volume until you = finish recording your 1st loop and then pressing the stacking button = ......then the previous takes fade with each pass through as you add = more. I think ambient style looping would work well with a Rang 3 if you = did these things -Set it in free play mode where all loops play unsynced -Set the optional stacking behavior so you can record seamless loops w/o = volume ramps at the loop boundaries -Turn the decay knob so previous overdubs slowly fade as you add new = ones Keep it mind I'm absolutely clueless on the subject of ambient looping = so take this account with a grain of salt:) Stereo/mono speaking - My bass is going through an M9 and going into the = rang3 stereo and my effects sound like they are in stereo to me in all = three loops .......so that would mean it's 3 stereo loops I would think? = You have like 4 1/2 mins of looping time in stereo if you have it set to = 48khz so I would assume that's combined time if you are using all three = loops at the same time in free play mode. I need some chocolate peanut butter cups. Happy Halloween, Todd Matthews On Oct 31, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come = from using delays for my looping and have never been really comfortable = with "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for = me. Great if I played songs, hehe >=20 > The 2880 is a phrase sampler at heart but also comes from the EH 16 = sec school of thinking in some important ways. I use it as close as I = can to a delay type looper only with reverse and octave. And I combine = that with the DD 20. The two together are as close as I have been able = to get to what I am looking for. The M 9 although mono is actually a = pretty cool looper with an ex ped. But not the end all of course. >=20 > The main reason I am reconsidering the 2880 is the frustrating lack of = headroom! I can and do deal with it but it really limits my use of = dynamics... >=20 > I guess that is hardware and will never be addressed although i do = write to the forums, etc...sigh :) >=20 >=20 > thanks, >=20 > J >=20 > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw = wrote: > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: > > Like if you have one track fading while you are recording another if = you > > follow me, Just how independent are these tracks? > > Can a track fade even when not in overdub? Probably not but it would = be a > > good thing. >=20 > Sounds like you're looping the same way as me. There was another tread > 1-2 months ago and if I remember it well, the Rang III can't do that. > It's still not clear to me how the feedback (called Decay) exactly > works, global or per track. >=20 > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ >=20 --Apple-Mail-3-1029621618 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii So I = just finished my first ambient looping experience on the Rang = 3:) 

So theres a decay knob on the left side on = the rang that you can turn up which is similar to feedback. If you turn = it all the way up then your previous overdub will only play once and if = its all the way down it does phrase sampling, repeating the loop = continuously at the same level. I tried it out with the decay knob set = right to the center, inbetween the two extremes, and it did a nice job = of slowly fading out my previous loops as I added more overdubs. What = seems different with this than with an delay pedal is that decay does = not start to happen till after you record your first loop and then put = it into stacking(overdub) mode. So your first loop will repeat it itself = at the same volume until you finish recording your 1st loop and then = pressing the stacking button ......then the previous takes fade with = each pass through as you add more. I think ambient style looping would = work well with a Rang 3 if you did these = things

-Set it in free play mode where all = loops play unsynced
-Set the optional stacking behavior so you = can record seamless loops w/o volume ramps at the loop = boundaries
-Turn the decay knob so previous overdubs slowly = fade as you add new ones

Keep it mind I'm = absolutely clueless on the subject of ambient looping so take this = account with a grain of salt:)

Stereo/mono = speaking - My bass is going through an M9 and going into the rang3 = stereo and my effects sound like they are in stereo to me in all three = loops .......so that would mean it's 3 stereo loops I would think? You = have like 4 1/2 mins of looping time in stereo if you have it set to = 48khz so I would assume that's combined time if you are using all three = loops at the same time in free play mode.

I = need some chocolate peanut butter cups.

Happy = Halloween,

Todd Matthews
On Oct = 31, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:

Yes I = think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from using = delays for my looping and have never been really comfortable with = "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for me. = Great if I played songs, hehe

The 2880 is a phrase sampler at heart but also comes from the EH 16 = sec school of thinking in some important ways. I use it as close as I = can to a delay type looper only with reverse and octave. And I combine = that with the DD 20. The two together are as close as I have been able = to get to what I am looking for. The M 9 although mono is actually a = pretty cool looper with an ex ped. But not the end all of course.

The main reason I am reconsidering the 2880 is the frustrating lack = of headroom! I can and do deal with it but it really limits my use of = dynamics...

I guess that is hardware and will never be addressed = although i do write to the forums, etc...sigh :)


thanks,

J

On Sun, Oct = 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> = wrote:
> Like if you have one track fading while you are recording another = if you
> follow me, Just how independent are these tracks?
> Can a track fade even when not in overdub? Probably not but it = would be a
> good thing.

Sounds like you're looping the same way as me. There was another = tread
1-2 months ago and if I remember it well, the Rang III can't do = that.
It's still not clear to me how the feedback (called Decay) exactly
works, global or per track.

--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premonitionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/


= --Apple-Mail-3-1029621618-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 01:22:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32B0C3BE91; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 01:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=75Ut4/OOQMBKPk8hsGDMPNjB6zQ7X9XMq7KGkp87xPc=; b=qPs6T6a9tawwcpuOD6EwdML9Oe0O2KpVjWg0orbbxsJ85LA4w8pe3AShLr1ZPEwpsu bVKKvPU4ffr+Fag/KjV59KqJ0MNhpcEvzIMMDJ02oNvWR95xch++3r6EXa/Gk8LttN/f 2ZtE0Ra4psJN5reyvTzpJbJTyahHrTBLeu1Bo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VznZ5/V9pwMGN+pEBMV2XZvZ16j9w9IrC/xLZ9NeALMxmGPLUEwcBKfRySXuKeaJOf AkNR2o+1NCQFatMO2kS/PnSoHW5x0ZEeGez7a6iqNLTX0wY4JqzRrDwR6H4OEk2Q1rKp piP+qdCmFz1dbK4RFBTIHW8eUaGsUrJlgiL1g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:22:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301cc0f635192a0493f3a404 Resent-Message-ID: <8MXXI.A.ipB.VZhzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 01:22:29 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301cc0f635192a0493f3a404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "Boss should create the Delay DD-200 Super Delay with 3 extended DD-20's on board, with reverse and halfspeed and 40 seconds of stereo looping per delay" Whoohoo! Now your talking! Though is it even possible to have forward/reverse and octave with a true delay? I don't believe I have seen one. The 2880 kind of sort of comes close...but it is really a phrase sampler with delay tendency's. One thing great about the DD 20 is that you can re trigger the loop length without much of a glitch or click while overdubbing, etc. If it did the reverse/octave thing that would be it for me. In the next year I will be looking into software looping seriously.I have never actually tried any of them. It's time :) best, J On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from > > using delays for my looping and have never been really comfortable with > > "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for me. > > Yep, you can say that, and we use similar setups btw. I started > looping with the DD-20 and I'm still using it as a spare looper in > case my laptop crashes. I have tried the RC-50 but didn't like it due > to the lack of feedback control. Next was the LP1, great concept but > my unit it needs to be repared, so I can't use it now and will > probably sell it once it's repaired. Probably my own fault, I fried > the input amps when creating some drones ;-) > > I currently use a M13 and a Lexicon for pre-FX and then the signal > goes into the laptop for some more FX treatment plus 2 instances of > Augustus Loop, the great tape delay plugin from our friend Os. I use > Augustus the same way as I use the DD-20, which means a pre-defined > loop length, and unsynced. I must say this setup is very stable now, > but in case something happens, I have the M13 and DD-20 as a backup > system. The DD-20 saved my ass already once, that was during the > Premonition Factory album presentation earlier this year. I only had > the DD-20 as backup then and 1 synth, that was almost a sort of > unplugged looping ;-) > > I was hoping the Rang III would be the 1st compact stereo looper with > 3 unsynced tracks with feedback control, reverse, half speed and good > audio specs and headroom, yes please. Or otherwise Boss should create > the Delay DD-200 Super Delay with 3 extended DD-20's on board, with > reverse and halfspeed and 40 seconds of stereo looping per delay. That > would be just perfect for ambient. > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > --20cf301cc0f635192a0493f3a404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Boss should create
the Delay DD-200 Super Delay with 3 extended DD-20's on board, with
reverse and halfspeed and 40 seconds of stereo looping per delay"
<= br>Whoohoo! Now your talking! Though is it even possible to have forward/re= verse and octave with a true delay? I don't believe I have seen one. Th= e 2880 kind of sort of comes close...but it is really a phrase sampler with= delay tendency's.

One thing great about the DD 20 is that you can re trigger the loop len= gth without much of a glitch or click while overdubbing, etc. If it did the= reverse/octave thing that would be it for me.


In the next year = I will be looking into software looping seriously.I have never actually tri= ed any of them. It's time :)

best,

J


On Sun, Oct 31, 20= 10 at 8:27 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come fr= om
> using delays for my looping and have never been really comfortable wit= h
> "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of course. Just too st= iff for me.

Yep, you can say that, and we use similar setups btw. I started
looping with the DD-20 and I'm still using it as a spare looper in
case my laptop crashes. I have tried the RC-50 but didn't like it due to the lack of feedback control. Next was the LP1, great concept but
my unit it needs to be repared, so I can't use it now and will
probably sell it once it's repaired. Probably my own fault, I fried
the input amps when creating some drones ;-)

I currently use a M13 and a Lexicon for pre-FX and then the signal
goes into the laptop for some more FX treatment plus 2 instances of
Augustus Loop, the great tape delay plugin from our friend Os. I use
Augustus the same way as I use the DD-20, which means a pre-defined
loop length, and unsynced. I must say this setup is very stable now,
but in case something happens, I have the M13 and DD-20 as a backup
system. The DD-20 saved my ass already once, that was during the
Premonition Factory album presentation earlier this year. I only had
the DD-20 as backup then and 1 synth, that was almost a sort of
unplugged looping ;-)

I was hoping the Rang III would be the 1st compact stereo looper with
3 unsynced tracks with feedback control, reverse, half speed and good
audio specs and headroom, yes please. Or otherwise Boss should create
the Delay DD-200 Super Delay with 3 extended DD-20's on board, with
reverse and halfspeed and 40 seconds of stereo looping per delay. That
would be just perfect for ambient.

--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premoni= tionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/=

--20cf301cc0f635192a0493f3a404-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 01:30:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0169D3BE8D; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 01:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=X2Gs1MYzEeL8rhAyvPtQ3+KWHfhPAR7o/IbYntUzdWE=; b=vSSg1vmeeRkWtvHJCVbXCQCXRtRbM3byxZgGwcohYXU2PdoRr4chhRIP7/r8G7JPaq KIH6cjVB2E+dLLNOd9QCzcragYsObJ9jO0s+JPvClZQTLtnMmNHGrmf9DRiRGb/KX66g b6YzCe9xVeIcLyQixTHJHTlrerV4t/4IOqfqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ouiVoUNgG4qfRRlt9JbRPa9C4WhPihfDQnuZWGo9cGQdJH2Q2+2rFl+COyx43lrHtp nNXzSJUw+Qo8Ot+fIt2Id0g1uflXefLTlDMowcA94XUmJKLvT2U6PuNy1jxwMVfc4VOy 2IGeOSOFfdRV4JBjqHN664k24dXeMqEtulAZg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:30:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6135726bc5270493f3c091 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 01:30:23 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6135726bc5270493f3c091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Todd, that sounds very hopeful! It sounds like it might be closer to the 2880 only better. More headroom, and more individual control over the unsynced loops. I wish they carried them in stores here so I could sit down and play with it. Still they have a good return policy online... Thanks for doing this test!! j On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > So I just finished my first ambient looping experience on the Rang 3:) > > So theres a decay knob on the left side on the rang that you can turn up > which is similar to feedback. If you turn it all the way up then your > previous overdub will only play once and if its all the way down it does > phrase sampling, repeating the loop continuously at the same level. I tried > it out with the decay knob set right to the center, inbetween the two > extremes, and it did a nice job of slowly fading out my previous loops as I > added more overdubs. What seems different with this than with an delay pedal > is that decay does not start to happen till after you record your first loop > and then put it into stacking(overdub) mode. So your first loop will repeat > it itself at the same volume until you finish recording your 1st loop and > then pressing the stacking button ......then the previous takes fade with > each pass through as you add more. I think ambient style looping would work > well with a Rang 3 if you did these things > > -Set it in free play mode where all loops play unsynced > -Set the optional stacking behavior so you can record seamless loops w/o > volume ramps at the loop boundaries > -Turn the decay knob so previous overdubs slowly fade as you add new ones > > Keep it mind I'm absolutely clueless on the subject of ambient looping so > take this account with a grain of salt:) > > Stereo/mono speaking - My bass is going through an M9 and going into the > rang3 stereo and my effects sound like they are in stereo to me in all three > loops .......so that would mean it's 3 stereo loops I would think? You have > like 4 1/2 mins of looping time in stereo if you have it set to 48khz so I > would assume that's combined time if you are using all three loops at the > same time in free play mode. > > I need some chocolate peanut butter cups. > > Happy Halloween, > > Todd Matthews > On Oct 31, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from > using delays for my looping and have never been really comfortable with > "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for me. > Great if I played songs, hehe > > The 2880 is a phrase sampler at heart but also comes from the EH 16 sec > school of thinking in some important ways. I use it as close as I can to a > delay type looper only with reverse and octave. And I combine that with the > DD 20. The two together are as close as I have been able to get to what I am > looking for. The M 9 although mono is actually a pretty cool looper with an > ex ped. But not the end all of course. > > The main reason I am reconsidering the 2880 is the frustrating lack of > headroom! I can and do deal with it but it really limits my use of > dynamics... > > I guess that is hardware and will never be addressed although i do write to > the forums, etc...sigh :) > > > thanks, > > J > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> > Like if you have one track fading while you are recording another if you >> > follow me, Just how independent are these tracks? >> > Can a track fade even when not in overdub? Probably not but it would be >> a >> > good thing. >> >> Sounds like you're looping the same way as me. There was another tread >> 1-2 months ago and if I remember it well, the Rang III can't do that. >> It's still not clear to me how the feedback (called Decay) exactly >> works, global or per track. >> >> -- >> Sjaak Overgaauw >> http://premonitionfactory.com/ >> http://livelooping.be/ >> > > > --90e6ba6135726bc5270493f3c091 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Todd, that sounds very hopeful! It sounds like it might be closer to= the 2880 only better. More headroom, and more individual control over the = unsynced loops. I wish they carried them in stores here so I could sit down= and play with it. Still they have a good return policy online...

Thanks for doing this test!!

j

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrot= e:
So I just finished my first ambient looping experience= on the Rang 3:)=A0

So theres a decay knob on the left side on the rang that you= can turn up which is similar to feedback. If you turn it all the way up th= en your previous overdub will only play once and if its all the way down it= does phrase sampling, repeating the loop continuously at the same level. I= tried it out with the decay knob set right to the center, inbetween the tw= o extremes, and it did a nice job of slowly fading out my previous loops as= I added more overdubs. What seems different with this than with an delay p= edal is that decay does not start to happen till after you record your firs= t loop and then put it into stacking(overdub) mode. So your first loop will= repeat it itself at the same volume until you finish recording your 1st lo= op and then pressing the stacking button ......then the previous takes fade= with each pass through as you add more. I think ambient style looping woul= d work well with a Rang 3 if you did these things

-Set it in free play mode where all loops play unsynced=
-Set the optional stacking behavior so you can record seamless l= oops w/o volume ramps at the loop boundaries
-Turn the decay knob= so previous overdubs slowly fade as you add new ones

Keep it mind I'm absolutely clueless on the subject= of ambient looping so take this account with a grain of salt:)
<= br>
Stereo/mono speaking - My bass is going through an M9 and goi= ng into the rang3 stereo and my effects sound like they are in stereo to me= in all three loops .......so that would mean it's 3 stereo loops I wou= ld think? You have like 4 1/2 mins of looping time in stereo if you have it= set to 48khz so I would assume that's combined time if you are using a= ll three loops at the same time in free play mode.

I need some chocolate peanut butter cups.
Happy Halloween,

Todd Matthews
On Oct 31, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:

Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from us= ing delays for my looping and have never been really comfortable with "= ;phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for me= . Great if I played songs, hehe

The 2880 is a phrase sampler at heart but also comes from the EH 16 sec= school of thinking in some important ways. I use it as close as I can to a= delay type looper only with reverse and octave. And I combine that with th= e DD 20. The two together are as close as I have been able to get to what I= am looking for. The M 9 although mono is actually a pretty cool looper wit= h an ex ped. But not the end all of course.

The main reason I am reconsidering the 2880 is the frustrating lack of = headroom! I can and do deal with it but it really limits my use of dynamics= ...

I guess that is hardware and will never be addressed although i = do write to the forums, etc...sigh :)


thanks,

J

On Sun, Oct 31, = 2010 at 2:55 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote= :
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> Like if you have one track fading while you are recording another if y= ou
> follow me, Just how independent are these tracks?
> Can a track fade even when not in overdub? Probably not but it would b= e a
> good thing.

Sounds like you're looping the same way as me. There was another tread<= br> 1-2 months ago and if I remember it well, the Rang III can't do that. It's still not clear to me how the feedback (called Decay) exactly
works, global or per track.

--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premoni= tionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/=



--90e6ba6135726bc5270493f3c091-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 05:03:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48A8A3BE8B; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 05:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1022 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 05:03:55 UTC Message-ID: <4CCE4901.1010902@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 23:58:41 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping with a drummer References: <548644.621.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <548644.621.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2010 04:59:03.0833 (UTC) FILETIME=[815DA090:01CB7981] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 05:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Here's one trick way to use loops in a power trio. Since the Rang(TM) III records in true stereo, run the guitarist in the left side and out to his amp, and the bassist through the right side and out to his amp. Either player can control the pedal and loops. In just one loop the guitarist can lay down some chords while the bassist plays a nice accompanying figure; of course these roles can be swapped. Then the bassist drops down to play a traditional line and the guitarist solos. The 3 piece just became a 5 piece. This is easily modified so that the bassist takes the solo. I almost had the right bass player lined up and was licking my chops at the thought of doing this in a trio. > I have this fabulous bassist and drummer and we're just starting to develop > material. It is not sure if we will find a suitable keyboard player - we > might stay a power trio for a while, and I'd like to find ways to enhance > this situation by using loops. Not sure how though. > > -Michael -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 05:03:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9603C3BE98; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 05:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 23:46:31 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2010 04:46:53.0730 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE30C020:01CB797F] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 05:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi loopers, I'll be visiting LD for a little while to answer any Boomerang(R) III questions that may arise. The Version 2 software was released 16 Sep 10, so all IIIs shipped since then will carry that software. There are probably a few Version 1 units in the dealer pipeline, but not many. Of course they can be easily upgraded to Version 2. I acquired a 2880 & foot controller unexpectedly last week, and will take it for a test drive soon. Then I'll post my completely unbiased report. My stay will only be for a couple of weeks because I am routinely buried under landslides of email without participating in LD. I've got a question for you guys. What's the quickest way to get the attention of the LD operators so I can have a Rang(TM) III page added to the Tools Of The Trade section? On 30-Oct-10 11:22 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I am thinking about selling my trusty eHX 2880 and getting a boomerang III. > > There have been some reports here on it but wondered if anyone has any new reviews on how they are liking it. > > Even better would be someone who has used both the 2880 and the Rang III for a more direct idea of the > differences/similarities. > > thanks, > > Jeff -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 05:18:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63E7F3BE8E; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 05:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3503 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 05:18:47 UTC Subject: Re: Looping with a drummer References: From: Jeff Larson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-24-1040373690 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <0561A4ED-5746-4B87-8A0E-AA08C5C279C9@zonemobius.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 23:20:18 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 05:18:48 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-24-1040373690 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well that's interesting. AFAIK no one from Team Adrian has ever = contacted me, if they have they've been anonymous. Too bad really, you don't always get what you = want unless you ask for it. Jeff On Oct 31, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I read in an interview that he uses these new monitors "Atomic". This = is not the same interview but he talks about his new setup including = going to Mobius for looping! = http://www.theaquarian.com/2010/06/15/interview-with-adrian-belew-the-guit= ar-man/2/ >=20 --Apple-Mail-24-1040373690 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Well that's interesting.   AFAIK no one from Team Adrian has ever contacted me, if they have
they've been anonymous.   Too bad really, you don't always get what you want
unless you ask for it.

Jeff


On Oct 31, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:

I read in an interview that he uses these new monitors "Atomic". This is not the same interview but he talks about his new setup including going to Mobius for looping! http://www.theaquarian.com/2010/06/15/interview-with-adrian-belew-the-guitar-man/2/


--Apple-Mail-24-1040373690-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 06:54:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D63E03BE8D; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 06:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6kO+6qKiyCVldBhu6GhQHqGQz6rQahtd7ArQ3tgGerU=; b=noJQv8qPOOYbjM8tWMwETd+vv1qLPerU0igF1Rwf4D32EkGgCFRZnuD3J4zrqQ1TKr e3kPGTCKiwEyiuHuvzG992vPV8K68hdtUMeb7f1T4VPnSeEwRixnW3yKZuXH9B56uXRE MXv/iy5kTNaDt53MxGxBAC0z1SLw/zqJDH/Ds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HLSCo6KfXEF9V3AmYvysRkFc84neF+M8kbufrIVzFYMw27FEzlEB1Tc6ECIFMF4NU3 9Blmc44LkSSloXKRpCnfOL4V6LRZIHSAs/1b4+Q85ECmYUjxWhGsji+AU1XcoxhnEr3p N0HPOG9b1jOWrPwuCfjX5TVeeDakQUTpU7w6g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <005501cb7191$875dd020$1b7f3447@tbl01fcf9be917> References: <005501cb7191$875dd020$1b7f3447@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:54:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2KX video From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b4321de912c30493f8479f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 06:54:36 +0000 (UTC) --001636b4321de912c30493f8479f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 is there a complete vid of all performers? On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Hey gang, I went to a Thursday night show in Santa Cruz at Cafe Namastae > that turned out to be pretty special to me. Rick Walker was the mc, sound > man, et all! It was a very eclectic night of first time in public looping > artists. I got some video of probably the stangest and coolest imo, improv > jam I saw at the fest. Here we have Laurie Amat (vocals, loops), Rick > Walker (vocals, percussion, loops and electronics) and Adrian Gormley (bass > clarinet) > > Rick asked me to shoot it up to Youtube and post it here, enjoy :) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIdD0RwpmB4 > > > > J > > > > > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke > http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > http://usit.bandcamp.com/ > http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com/ > --001636b4321de912c30493f8479f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is there a complete vid of all performers?


On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> w= rote:
Hey gang, I went to a Thursday night s= how in Santa=20 Cruz at Cafe Namastae that turned out to be pretty special to me. Rick Walk= er=20 was the mc, sound man, et all! It was a very eclectic night of first time i= n=20 public looping artists. I got some video of probably the stangest and coole= st=20 imo, improv jam I saw at the fest. Here we have Laurie Amat (vocals, loops), Rick Walker (vocals, percussion= , loops and=20 electronics) and Adrian Gormley (bass clarinet)
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--001636b4321de912c30493f8479f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 07:02:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BAD13BE91; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:02:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nKxUiuT/vZCgqUu7sVywyjGHu/FWjpqx0blnaR1yoN4=; b=Cubg1NPwmf1x8K7ScQfQ37HGFL7vykHGPzY4NtOtfEd+C7C/XPomC/2varSEmHNtiO q4jktKmUxwQtxbACl8m4grw5Ooem3CRcess7wx5NiEHoMHGCLik0ZNIwsopNrHR6j5BL 5ecju0Mygo0ZjETmbFGIy7Ig5DInBxjRvWu+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DGVlleqqIHe8QBl4IXbFAQj6cIhsujHGrlFFqcgWBbM4jRQ+DltfL0oNWITd/sMQ97 i8kwP4213dUQ+Ehlr4VG+yuFPYldhpsG0aKGk/9UAhNsjWsSbcV7DDxnrjBmJNKWDrX6 zSUx3ztylAv/dHzRoY1riK++gJKehrWaVZK74= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 08:02:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP REVIEW From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630fb498971000493f86232 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:02:03 +0000 (UTC) --00163630fb498971000493f86232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im currently having problems programing the softstep with my laptop,i first tried it out with my Imac and it seems to respond ok,the i downloaded the software to my laptop and did all the upgrading,the softstep receives the new software upgrade v 1.02 but form there it does not respond at all when i do any editing with the software,it just blinks "soft step" the whole time,any ideas? is there a way to reset the softstep? On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 5:25 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Very quick report... > > Thank you, Mark. > > Gearwire has published a little longer review here: > > http://www.gearwire.com/kmi-soft-step-multi-touch-usb-midi-foot-controller.html > > From Keith McMillen's company I heard that they now have units in stock. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --00163630fb498971000493f86232 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im currently having problems programing the softstep with my laptop,i first= tried it out with my Imac and it seems to respond ok,the i downloaded the = software to my laptop and did all the upgrading,the softstep receives the n= ew software upgrade v 1.02 but form there it does not respond at all when i= do any editing with the software,it just blinks "soft step" the = whole time,any ideas? is there a way to reset the softstep?

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmai= l.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 5:25 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Very quick report...

Thank you, Mark.

Gearwire has published a little longer review here:
http://www.gearwire.com/kmi-soft-step-mu= lti-touch-usb-midi-foot-controller.html

>From Keith McMillen's company I heard that they now have units in stock= .

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--00163630fb498971000493f86232-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 07:07:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C42AD3BEA4; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gmKulJZGNy4/w4nuHlCkwGI8M9jljlojviZ1wsMeaJ0=; b=FRkDuXa19OjAPHMVVO2qYuFvXwaMtPorGFX2eKTlzLkZQ1EU6MPjgB+itIYVfWpUpb SLFsPoRpnohFpJE8KAky2YKr1LHFkCzgHDNZxYAb1JDzkTIJNxJXvol+X2yExXYURYzM nYHMSJNtapUXdylhFlpmUN/cCDqHqydHuGKW8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WKPLuHbjIToqS5McD/KC5UwJ4nogeuLtAk132TiAICLYBz9EBoA/DX3JxeBcJoo6tB DxnNGfiMKg7DczO9ToAfvXPuGDdfLySgvpJUrGOzCmpNpxtQcH4saUA2tSUc2yZmEr6q CnBEaCWgoNx7mEXxLWrOX7XAfjOzEx24XHvIE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2CAFDBD8D2C149C184E94F82E04C1F5C@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <2CAFDBD8D2C149C184E94F82E04C1F5C@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 08:07:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Send me your Y2KX MP3, Video, and photo links From: Louie Angulo To: Kris Hartung Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b885d2e5ab0493f876e1 Resent-Message-ID: <5iJhKB.A.e1G._cmzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:07:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b885d2e5ab0493f876e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im still wondering if my set was recorded or video taped at all,if anybody knows please let me know im very curious. Cheers Luis On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Kris Hartung wrote: > Y2KX Performers - > > If you have links to your Y2KX recordings, videos, or photos, please send > them to me and I will link them on the page Y2KX page, as I have done > already for me, Rick, and Matthias. > > http://www.y2kloopfest.com/ > > Thanks, > > Kris > > --001636c5b885d2e5ab0493f876e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im still wondering if my set was recorded or video taped at all,if anybody = knows please let me know im very curious.
Cheers
Luis

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Kris Hartung <krispenhartung@gma= il.com> wrote:
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--001636c5b885d2e5ab0493f876e1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 09:52:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A7E23BE93; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8OQaZ/KMlkPGJJ0hkJCYNvCiLQFDOCQq77l4tuOWtJY=; b=P/qtRv4E2cgXeg7JgpbvV1OVTKbg76BjFvWIfrWsmekEIsmnmdeI4zFCYxl6WW8+91 grMzylNFm9RRHFYiWl6RtarRNuTOZDPQCAg7YTr4O7QnesAJzW5zf80iPusokINHLcLN KMycAdmvK3dAWD+tFZUEAnqLPeB4OfQ7Tycrk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HhtRG8RZn4qlszVVYspPOJNUuy513PXpr2mbqVCDXh78AiAXvTByeQkQugZN+vygXb lGYX/xkV+ijaCclI5ca0dY6dFnLPNKACU8or0EkKoU1KwAX2z0eWdpbJpLhrXTcCCyUm nZeD4xViFfcKKqM8Wo4NY2wsKxoSl7sFilJOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> References: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 10:52:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <5LcaL.A.BVB.u3ozMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:52:46 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike wrote: > Hi loopers, > I'll be visiting LD for a little while to answer any Boomerang(R) III > questions that may arise. Hi Mike, I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard about the version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how feedback/decay exactly works on the Rang III. From what I understand from the manual and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a decay knob to control feedback. My question: does decay work for each track individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on the current track? Example: is it possible to set decay to 70% with track 1 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without adding new audio to the loop itself? Or use track 2 to create a new loop at the same time with decay on 50% for example? Thanks! -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 11:39:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 971133BE97; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:39:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QtjZfCGmx/oymWGz6JiEV2uj15XiLfG2zCjfMOPdZVo=; b=uLYi4k8fm39gABySuATEM5AdOKVdU5nC+NV7Wo/olukafQJq2l52OkDfs3SgA3SGAH 1PUdZEBIy1W+5vaYBEP60qQXkRieTQPe9aRO/ZdqgIczz8Kk9nNW2ODlYrDLimaXPutv hE/4yYO1jGlWznBMYa6d6mM9Qzd0m7MKs/PE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kLhNzSTj0jVfuJ8q5hqpXJERBF6ptnsyRwZiv6wyQ1MxBiPnH5SCxbGOEA/m0SNkVU jOavWX/aE6mRnZ2x/SHOZRLyglFcCM3HLGNuLqSnk/Tmzoa9TDAzku+2brCIo05yLpY7 OtvwgaCGFkfBe1toJm14c7E6TsAoN8fjKI/cw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:39:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: softstep and mobius users From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555a94a8d3c220493fc44dd Resent-Message-ID: <0rdW2D.A.0AD.PcqzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:39:59 +0000 (UTC) --00032555a94a8d3c220493fc44dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hey gang, if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have tons of questions and there arent any forums that i know of yet plus we can start helping future users here as well lets hook up! cheers Luis --00032555a94a8d3c220493fc44dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 hey gang,
if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have tons of questions and there arent any forums that i know of yet
plus we can start helping future users here as well
lets hook up!
cheers
Luis
--00032555a94a8d3c220493fc44dd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 11:55:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8B363BE99; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ONCaaSJxexiyM866F95w8wJTGHoJ3lNStmkJrUwxRb8=; b=Y8IJkd6uADGibnd70Mc9qlP3efkS+orv3S4jcRdAPEFTV79oVl7OaA+tCWcvZJ8yZT w/nfBryDQ/Wvzna+30cL0Cb2WVBe6NuKi5K8JYbHio6p8AhECNPVYUJwqNjkPjDlbC6W QnHuzUGTt0KtGAXgO8rMSGEMc4ALVQoxJKrMU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o6Fqx2P0MeJnYXAN/FNyJKv1wQklzUvLJ/r4sob6bEbbp86sCW9PbnZe7qr8WEmDBE rF3tTpUTWekYLhUncHmOHydIlR6Qh+jXkYRRQDyoPUHLI0gTWkHwFzmjvmYCBQ8BEPLy G33h5BRH055YhPN+PtajtB5x5WfvTPfSFVbVM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <005501cb7191$875dd020$1b7f3447@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:55:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2KX video From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba476adf86bd060493fc7ab7 Resent-Message-ID: <1ytcBB.A.3PD.YqqzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:55:04 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba476adf86bd060493fc7ab7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No Louise, the only other video from that night that I took was about 7 minutes of Lauries solo set. I missed the first two. The only other video that I know of was what Mark G Thornton. He was the one documenting the whole event. I have not seen what he got yet. j On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > is there a complete vid of all performers? > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> Hey gang, I went to a Thursday night show in Santa Cruz at Cafe Namastae >> that turned out to be pretty special to me. Rick Walker was the mc, sound >> man, et all! It was a very eclectic night of first time in public looping >> artists. I got some video of probably the stangest and coolest imo, improv >> jam I saw at the fest. Here we have Laurie Amat (vocals, loops), Rick >> Walker (vocals, percussion, loops and electronics) and Adrian Gormley (bass >> clarinet) >> >> Rick asked me to shoot it up to Youtube and post it here, enjoy :) >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIdD0RwpmB4 >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> >> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ >> http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke >> http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive >> http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace >> http://usit.bandcamp.com/ >> http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com/ >> > > --90e6ba476adf86bd060493fc7ab7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No Louise, the only other video from that night that I took was about 7 min= utes of Lauries solo set. I missed the first two.
The only other video = that I know of was what Mark G Thornton. He was the one documenting the who= le event. I have not seen what he got yet.

j

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Lou= ie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
is there a complete vid of all performers?


On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.co= m> wrote:
Hey gang, I went to a Thursday night s= how in Santa=20 Cruz at Cafe Namastae that turned out to be pretty special to me. Rick Walk= er=20 was the mc, sound man, et all! It was a very eclectic night of first time i= n=20 public looping artists. I got some video of probably the stangest and coole= st=20 imo, improv jam I saw at the fest. Here we have Laurie Amat (vocals, loops), Rick Walker (vocals, percussion= , loops and=20 electronics) and Adrian Gormley (bass clarinet)
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--90e6ba476adf86bd060493fc7ab7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 12:23:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 397CC3BEA6; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Yis+qTDeKo8h3Krex3B/Oh1Pw5yvNeCHBf93tvG49Xo=; b=ldZQdouHuOTuLzULezmQemdfvbeVzzxlsIyG01zrItgzKL4WBtYkETySQJ2USpVEZG Ka1H+ALswY5mhDAKvs4W4vxiR4aaP95U2FEqX7dQ3zQ8xpjFRPBhaLaoln4Ng9sKo5pa QEnBUgarL/Y6IOjdnv6edFyQ1n9ziDCWD7m5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CLjWoJRNZp7A201utxsHqFoNaxm5VDNNNrnqd8AJkC7HYfxjIXJ9O8Wxf2bza76mnd +cmfqWqtuEVhjm43zTLMLYSPUPZT9Myb6vLWnwSMpgArhnI5scRCs3xWa+vfL3ocZ6cG NTbTHr0Kk4sG98bbdaIYVrZ8aR+F/U/dYW8k0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 08:23:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba1efc18fc310e0493fcde5c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:23:10 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba1efc18fc310e0493fcde5c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Mike, good to have you here for a bit! Ambient looping guitarist here. We haven't corresponded since I upgraded my original Boomerang many moons ago. Sjaaks questions are pretty much mine also. I am looking forward to your report eagerly! Jeff On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike wrote: > > Hi loopers, > > I'll be visiting LD for a little while to answer any Boomerang(R) III > > questions that may arise. > > Hi Mike, > I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard about the > version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how feedback/decay > exactly works on the Rang III. From what I understand from the manual > and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a decay knob to > control feedback. My question: does decay work for each track > individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on the > current track? Example: is it possible to set decay to 70% with track > 1 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without adding new > audio to the loop itself? Or use track 2 to create a new loop at the > same time with decay on 50% for example? > > Thanks! > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > --90e6ba1efc18fc310e0493fcde5c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike, good to have you here for a bit!

Ambient looping guitarist = here. We haven't corresponded since I upgraded my original Boomerang ma= ny moons ago.

Sjaaks questions are pretty much mine also. I am look= ing forward to your report eagerly!


Jeff


On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5= :52 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com> wrote:
> Hi loopers,
> I'll be visiting LD for a little while to answer any Boomerang(R) = III
> questions that may arise.

Hi Mike,
I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard about the
version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how feedback/decay
exactly works on the Rang III. From what I understand from the manual
and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a decay knob to
control feedback. My question: does decay work for each track
individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on =A0the
current track? Example: is it possible to set decay to 70% with track
1 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without adding new
audio to the loop itself? Or use track 2 to create a new loop at the
same time with decay on 50% for example?

Thanks!

--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premoni= tionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/=

--90e6ba1efc18fc310e0493fcde5c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 12:28:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 233063BEB9; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oE6NbqDkyzVjEW63PbylO40aw2/xMEbdrG0ZZWcDlh4=; b=ulrxzxWt/V/vnS2YvPg+FsczeBpVTz++M0pNdGRJ/bGYZyoBxBb45BTs3cqdT/O45b ilia6ca8dzLa1Npu58+lB3f8uzWya4s6be/Wt4TX0CeDW0ZsE1yHoJCNM5PVZqHCIW1q Yvh3QeN7ykBDyEToCWVLHiJa+8r+0YaWSsO1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AjLczwIdLI8g5QzkipwX2RhCkKDU2om2bSc+j+aWo89NmwodXXAzsHiEwWQmgq28u5 5k6IfFGGazbNgdCJdMKPQMmx2ngTfdaDWSRvKET4OY7TuKVLxaNJJ64xnoP3yCBuIw7z OtkEFhPyHsPFeTmogEii0etxBc7uhj+ycHvkk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <005501cb7191$875dd020$1b7f3447@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 08:28:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2KX video From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Louie I shot video of all sets (except unavoidably missing the noon one on saturday) from 120 pearl for fri:/sat/sun. I have anywhere from 2 min to 10 to 15 iin some cases. I was conserving resources at times and was mainly documenting with the idea of producing several video essays on the event which I will get done. That said for anyone who wants their raw video and I know a few have contacted me, I will make it avail by pub dropbox. Best Jim On 11/1/10, Jeff Duke wrote: > No Louise, the only other video from that night that I took was about 7 > minutes of Lauries solo set. I missed the first two. > The only other video that I know of was what Mark G Thornton. He was the = one > documenting the whole event. I have not seen what he got yet. > > j > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > >> is there a complete vid of all performers? >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Jeff Duke wrote= : >> >>> Hey gang, I went to a Thursday night show in Santa Cruz at Cafe Namast= ae >>> that turned out to be pretty special to me. Rick Walker was the mc, sou= nd >>> man, et all! It was a very eclectic night of first time in public loopi= ng >>> artists. I got some video of probably the stangest and coolest imo, >>> improv >>> jam I saw at the fest. Here we have Laurie Amat (vocals, loops), Rick >>> Walker (vocals, percussion, loops and electronics) and Adrian Gormley >>> (bass >>> clarinet) >>> >>> Rick asked me to shoot it up to Youtube and post it here, enjoy :) >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjIdD0RwpmB4 >>> >>> >>> >>> J >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ >>> http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke >>> http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive >>> http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace >>> http://usit.bandcamp.com/ >>> http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com/ >>> >> >> > --=20 Sent from my mobile device >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 12:36:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89C983BEA6; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=73SSUZdlHHoiUWYPxcxJ4ILmvIU/abNmbPvky3mIbyU=; b=pJQfhWm9X9uMhuwcIAurLQL2qtlripRme1FbGO89lZApXvbkqGm7Ki01jt015JawMs aOJSP4Xe4QU+DPbG+1qJxMchf+tPc7DlaC3yTQW7QyJw4X3Rk0UdblSXRAH+TDfJuIKN 9L86wnIdYPnkNgEON4WWhTx0Uwdi+ookcW6Qg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PnlOjNHbHF/srdGPAEPM0ZPs+oy6zFWye4dQ2qA2nYvEpcJ7foNJnKVhXvykEXs+jf aSFO+1yG/7CUNJSBO7PwvqmcgpbIyNqtqyJpHaDU865BE2+4q0i7aQf9oqDz4NXsrvKe sR9Z+jomzlgaxHxBUVXHyWmXZ8zEHqzAeextA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <005501cb7191$875dd020$1b7f3447@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 08:36:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2KX video From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba476adff085110493fd0e7d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:36:34 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba476adff085110493fd0e7d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Jim, how could I forget you! Without you I wouldn't have had any vid from my set! Looking forward to your videos when completed! J On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Louie > > I shot video of all sets (except unavoidably missing the noon one on > saturday) from 120 pearl for fri:/sat/sun. I have anywhere from 2 min > to 10 to 15 iin some cases. I was conserving resources at times and > was mainly documenting with the idea of producing several video essays > on the event which I will get done. > > That said for anyone who wants their raw video and I know a few have > contacted me, I will make it avail by pub dropbox. > > Best > > Jim > > On 11/1/10, Jeff Duke wrote: > > No Louise, > > > > j > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Louie Angulo > > wrote: > > > >> is there a complete vid of all performers? > >> > >> > --90e6ba476adff085110493fd0e7d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, how could I forget you! Without you I wouldn't have had any vid fr= om my set!

Looking forward to your videos when completed!

J<= br>
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Jim Goodi= n <jimgood= inmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Louie

I shot video of all sets (except unavoidably missing the noon one on
saturday) from 120 pearl for fri:/sat/sun. =A0I have anywhere from 2 min to 10 to 15 iin some cases. =A0I was conserving resources at times and
was mainly documenting with the idea of producing several video essays
on the event which I will get done.

That said for anyone who wants their raw video and I know a few have
contacted me, I will make it avail by pub dropbox.

Best

Jim

On 11/1/10, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@= gmail.com> wrote:
> No Louise, <sniped>
>
> j
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Louie Angulo
> <louie.angulo@google= mail.com>wrote:
>
>> is there a complete vid of all performers?
>>
>><sniped>

--90e6ba476adff085110493fd0e7d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 13:25:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5E753BEAF; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=P4zzH+J94eWxCwSOdoDVOhoBpswLZubialR4XqQoEDk=; b=aID3BbVpT1hFhn77PXwHLpaDS0FU/noYKf6HA6f5V2eswGVKGFnxm/ztuUxf5w9q45 UBp63QRw2sc6Qm1vLyUNDAuiydKEh5kBq/PZ1tjgEmzRb1+YgyBqDDAZb837Az1Vfn+p TcbXeMsF+Jp3wHmA18jhtI8mwbDe4HTO3VdG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L/oUkI7lnvsbN5t8pdWaEBULX2e6CNpX2NEB53PFT2rYiruBdYR9e2pPwBWdYZMvmp iHTTQIEqvfuTeIjKVc8liLgVkF1SVnpIIcyv5+vcfV8Tdav9D0NHDMPUp7nD9oUW5CqI 6yHe3Z05+BKQf6eHZUTv2iIuUT7262UUlnMvo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <005501cb7191$875dd020$1b7f3447@tbl01fcf9be917> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:19:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2KX video From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Jeff hey no worries, actuAlly I thought ya'll were referring to the Thur sets. I threw my comments in confirming my covering the weekend which includes some of Louie's set. To the community my pieces are going to take some time due to other projects but if you want your raw please get in touch. Mark. Carl and I think couple others have relayed wanting theirs, its coming and I apologiuze for the delay. Jim On 11/1/10, Jeff Duke wrote: > Jim, how could I forget you! Without you I wouldn't have had any vid from= my > set! > > Looking forward to your videos when completed! > > J > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Jim Goodin wro= te: > >> Louie >> >> I shot video of all sets (except unavoidably missing the noon one on >> saturday) from 120 pearl for fri:/sat/sun. I have anywhere from 2 min >> to 10 to 15 iin some cases. I was conserving resources at times and >> was mainly documenting with the idea of producing several video essays >> on the event which I will get done. >> >> That said for anyone who wants their raw video and I know a few have >> contacted me, I will make it avail by pub dropbox. >> >> Best >> >> Jim >> >> On 11/1/10, Jeff Duke wrote: >> > No Louise, >> > >> > j >> > >> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Louie Angulo >> > wrote: >> > >> >> is there a complete vid of all performers? >> >> >> >> >> > --=20 Sent from my mobile device >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 13:31:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03DF63BEAF; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hBuLtuOS/QvMjMNKjlB+5FDSbfrrx1pmhX2rTcuwr0E=; b=Q++W6dS1Rww9MrUsJxz/qk1gdlFP80U19z4n75N5Buv/39yhX4FVZaY0mJ8omZ1PPV SghDtEayjCp/escwttdFKhWisetHZQHwxYfYL0qdd0wHzMWQwGcX+LF+3x+o1RIB/IzD 7LT0O79GSFBZUJNO+hZke1dT8mqmc2puksIU4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=mhcTZ81jYLsmEb0xT4echE9CCJv/TJ9dDYaCuw4+2nCbZ8jbf0DKVr3EFWi+qYRKM9 iix4oNL8xYuM6/eLa8ROM6os2fBqq838dJaFBEPyE9Igxb9lt47vdiX6gJFowm5g0JYo eRwqaTQ5fkFmKeYlEXDCoT1B0P1k1ZtMQ5QrQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2CAFDBD8D2C149C184E94F82E04C1F5C@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <2CAFDBD8D2C149C184E94F82E04C1F5C@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:31:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Send me your Y2KX MP3, Video, and photo links From: Jim Goodin To: Kris Hartung Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ac8b0d60ec0493fdd20d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:31:08 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ac8b0d60ec0493fdd20d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kris will be sending some links later in the month. Jim On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Kris Hartung wr= ote: > Y2KX Performers - > > If you have links to your Y2KX recordings, videos, or photos, please send > them to me and I will link them on the page Y2KX page, as I have done > already for me, Rick, and Matthias. > > http://www.y2kloopfest.com/ > > Thanks, > > Kris > > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054ac8b0d60ec0493fdd20d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kris will be sending some links later in the month.

Jim

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Kris Hartung <krispenhartung@= gmail.com> wrote:
Y2KX Performers -
=A0
If you have links to your Y2KX recordi= ngs, videos,=20 or photos, please send them to me and I will link them on the page Y2KX pag= e, as=20 I have done already for me, Rick, and Matthias.
=A0
=A0
Thanks,
=A0
Kris
=A0



--
From Brooklyn To Glindr= an, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 P= roceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandca= mp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wo= rdpress.com
--20cf3054ac8b0d60ec0493fdd20d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 13:32:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3A8E3BEBE; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=N0xOQBJt1RVgLRVnDj+BqUM4MzTBv3mV/5Fx5coH/0U=; b=sMzBd1OSQTvpuBkCSUfojds/njmlexcS2advHZpJ4fZ5egTttCk8qE+Jf7+/NIR7Nj IcOHu+BlPVFbDOu6nNspIEfbZPZm9ttxQRhGwvCj4XsGAeRGi15sw28BnnflqmIz4zmt kozMVyK/C6bi2gNmbLlclvlnO4srSqJpAtHWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jFPJxGSjmQrpiL6aReIIJJX40+ZmRd8E52eDP4/QmOwD4WHxul42O8XSQq0NapMBw3 aBa9qx63HhAmewGQa2X9YQBFGlwkC/Ak372DOZv0EO1HaWnqQKI493ox5ls6y/ZhTCnt uzQQzAF8aCcYfYyqWfadyxXsJ6J4ak/QHnoSc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2CAFDBD8D2C149C184E94F82E04C1F5C@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:32:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Send me your Y2KX MP3, Video, and photo links From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: louie.angulo@googlemail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c92524a835890493fdd683 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:32:30 +0000 (UTC) --001636c92524a835890493fdd683 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Louie if you missed my other post I do have some of your set and will dropbox to you. Jim On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Louie Angulo w= rote: > Im still wondering if my set was recorded or video taped at all,if anybod= y > knows please let me know im very curious. > Cheers > Luis > > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Kris Hartung w= rote: > >> Y2KX Performers - >> >> If you have links to your Y2KX recordings, videos, or photos, please sen= d >> them to me and I will link them on the page Y2KX page, as I have done >> already for me, Rick, and Matthias. >> >> http://www.y2kloopfest.com/ >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kris >> >> > > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001636c92524a835890493fdd683 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Louie if you missed my other post I do have some of your set and will dropb= ox to you.

Jim

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010= at 3:07 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
Im still wonderin= g if my set was recorded or video taped at all,if anybody knows please let = me know im very curious.
Cheers
Luis


On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Kris Hartung <= ;krispenhartu= ng@gmail.com> wrote:
Y2KX Performers -
=A0
If you have links to your Y2KX recordi= ngs, videos,=20 or photos, please send them to me and I will link them on the page Y2KX pag= e, as=20 I have done already for me, Rick, and Matthias.
=A0
=A0
Thanks,
=A0
Kris
=A0




--
From Brookl= yn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter T= h=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Internati= onal.=A0 jimgoodinpeter= thorn.bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wo= rdpress.com
--001636c92524a835890493fdd683-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 13:49:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4AC53BEBE; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=GoqtukWJZ2z9wdPKsulZub6sHNzbMnZS+1R+S8nfzng=; b=Wg7G5R8wRH3gBgVUvtXhIpZju0mv5cvuvFKprTf7TP8ENWYYf1d5fb59vfMO8ekLN0 OfWQsvhUjlAyD8TogMrM8sLxwQb0pDJgRKzZb3CYF+64wqbyRg9L/EQN4bHQCjojBRmS XQHBC9UmWDQ9vRh7ILDV6+OpN3T/GGOiqSOSk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=KbG1v50TYH+sN5iuSheBZyg38A2vsbG/bH86q5NEogVLfJde9iXuuKZ7XviBXlAuq2 YJKVRVzC0vPop09Gj+o1N2adqB0hx/s0Db1/TUyY7aABukuYgxwbE8rVq6LwpxBjvdCA 8bcY4COgC0ztqE+l52ia668xCnm/rQ4eeFqEk= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:48:58 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7799FFC6-18DA-4CF6-AB86-0FCF7695E876@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Mine should get here in the next few days and I'll be on board with you. On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:39 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > hey gang, > if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have tons of = questions and there arent any forums that i know of yet > plus we can start helping future users here as well > lets hook up! > cheers > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 16:31:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 427943BE8E; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 860581.7686.bm@omp1014.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=mt3JZQrkqTbLuFNVfiGybDFgP+k18qN4q9mK1WDQ8pDggCDYpcEbmDB3Efu1aPjn9yz9/dSO6fCLf3FZWUE6rjUN5sDnVO+qxhCpj6ysvzDdwYLodYncM3IusL8BA3KZdCKOBNPWv+u9uoOAWLdO61z77v7iDLOORESdUaNIEAg= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1288629114; bh=dhcULebVsTlZh2lNyMtovsoZogDHpnO6dcmnCAYvhAY=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ORLLAX4tTy/Qc8Ojz6xAbnfcKcaX6S6HYtLVo361DnJNKs04cHWawNz1z6GqESX6FCKMy7/BDAGoKtplv2zaHvGmWY6MShyXSARuJgX2ldsi1/TIunCSUlfgujTwwv/gAH1f2MhV515iTFQCLTYm1WwOFsAexg3Uhq7fcnHTAao= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: eVA5G8gVM1lBfdDuQI2S9AWVGHvF6AVDFLRZj3pJX_uhr6o 6WL0j0WYbUb6O1zaVeUBK_Jzx4Dh0C6W89b38hj_9w298peUmeVcvhTp.sim 9FF92L9.w0QQK0jHBBwX4mTdLX.L7SMICOjhKPNClNXayoLkEwLTYlfrvHlk nkyk3YmuXOj8V22JmUiRWt9kBtVN56AD..zNt3gtfbbBGelq38UFoJ4MbcgU kVcbbkrNPtQzRdTqJHIGl0PuhMU28ZsKMNsh21.3z1cMkcrA90KO4huJ9HVK N X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: References: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:31:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0089_01CB79EA.AC3195B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:31:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01CB79EA.AC3195B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Yes it's nice to see you on the list. I'm also interested to learn about = the "ambient" possibilities of the boomerang III. from Todd Matthews: "Set the optional stacking behavior so you can record seamless loops w/o = volume ramps at the loop boundaries" Can someone explain this a bit further? What is this special behavior? I = would like to record seamless drones using an Ebow, is this really a = seamless looping? Xmas in approaching, The boomerang is on my wishlist as is a M9, time to = make a choice, money is limited ;-) Ben. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 Hi Mike, good to have you here for a bit! Ambient looping guitarist here. We haven't corresponded since I = upgraded my original Boomerang many moons ago.=20 Sjaaks questions are pretty much mine also. I am looking forward to = your report eagerly! Jeff On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw = wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike = wrote: > Hi loopers, > I'll be visiting LD for a little while to answer any Boomerang(R) = III > questions that may arise. Hi Mike, I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard about the version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how feedback/decay exactly works on the Rang III. From what I understand from the = manual and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a decay knob to control feedback. My question: does decay work for each track individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on the current track? Example: is it possible to set decay to 70% with = track 1 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without adding = new audio to the loop itself? Or use track 2 to create a new loop at the same time with decay on 50% for example? Thanks! -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01CB79EA.AC3195B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
Yes it's nice to see you on the list. = I'm also=20 interested to learn about the "ambient" possibilities of the boomerang=20 III.
 
from Todd=20 Matthews:
"Set the optional stacking behavior so you can = record=20 seamless loops w/o volume ramps at the loop = boundaries"
 
Can someone explain this a bit further? = What is=20 this special behavior? I would like to record seamless drones using an = Ebow, is=20 this really a seamless looping?
 
Xmas in approaching, The boomerang is = on my=20 wishlist as is a M9, time to make a choice, money is limited = ;-)
 
Ben.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff Duke=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 = 1:23=20 PM
Subject: Re: Boomerang 3

Hi Mike, good to have you here for a = bit!

Ambient=20 looping guitarist here. We haven't corresponded since I upgraded my = original=20 Boomerang many moons ago.

Sjaaks questions are pretty much = mine also.=20 I am looking forward to your report = eagerly!


Jeff


On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Sjaak = Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com= >=20 wrote:
> Hi loopers,
> I'll be visiting LD for a little = while to=20 answer any Boomerang(R) III
> questions that may = arise.

Hi=20 Mike,
I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard = about=20 the
version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how=20 feedback/decay
exactly works on the Rang III. From what I = understand from=20 the manual
and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a = decay=20 knob to
control feedback. My question: does decay work for each=20 track
individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on=20  the
current track? Example: is it possible to set decay to = 70% with=20 track
1 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without = adding=20 new
audio to the loop itself? Or use track 2 to create a new loop = at=20 the
same time with decay on 50% for = example?

Thanks!

--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premonitionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/
<= BR> ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01CB79EA.AC3195B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 16:33:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4AD13BE8E; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users From: usergroups In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:33:38 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <18748F7E-C063-45AB-B7A5-578063700FB4@andremu.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:33:41 +0000 (UTC) mine is comming tomorrow. using it with mobius is exactly what i=B4m = planning to do. it=B4s a great idea to exchange some experiences. greetings from vienna andre mueller www.andremu.com Am 01.11.2010 um 12:39 schrieb Louie Angulo: > hey gang, > if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have tons of = questions and there arent any forums that i know of yet > plus we can start helping future users here as well > lets hook up! > cheers > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 16:41:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D13E3BE8B; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:41:41 -0500 Subject: RE: softstep and mobius users Thread-Topic: softstep and mobius users Thread-Index: Act5uYUF9S3gNTddTMKTAMN+vQaqvAAKgqNg Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-vipre-scanned: 467BDA97001C11467BDBE4 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9barqsailpoi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <1GV9MB.A.Fu.I3uzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:41:45 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9barqsailpoi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have one on order. Just reading specs, I'll probably set it up much like the FCB, each switch sends note on/off 0-9 in bank 1, 10-19 in bank 2, etc. I'm not sure how useful the pressure sensitivity will be. The obvious candidates are the output level, feedback, and pan controls but you usually want those to be smooth and it sounds like that might be difficult. If we have to we could implement some kind of controller smoothing with scripts. Rate and pitch shift amount are other possibilities. Setting parameters like the number of subcycles or Quantize Mode could also be done but for those I think it's easier to cycle through a set of values just by pressing a switch several times rather than trying to dial one in with pressure. We'll see... Jeff From: Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:40 AM To: Loopers Delight Subject: softstep and mobius users hey gang, if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have tons of questio= ns and there arent any forums that i know of yet plus we can start helping future users here as well lets hook up! cheers Luis --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9barqsailpoi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have one on order.  Just reading specs, I'll probably=

set it up much like the FCB, each switch sends note on/off

0-9 in bank 1, 10-19 in bank 2, etc.

 

I'm not sure how useful the pressure sensitivity will be.

 

The obvious candidates are the output level, feedback, and p= an

controls but you usually want those to be smooth and it soun= ds

like that might be difficult.  If we have to we could i= mplement

some kind of controller smoothing with scripts.  <= /o:p>

 

Rate and pitch shift amount are other possibilities.  S= etting

parameters like the number of subcycles or Quantize Mode cou= ld

also be done but for those I think it's easier to cycle thro= ugh

a set of values just by pressing a switch several times rath= er

than trying to dial one in with pressure.<= /p>

 

We'll see...

 

Jeff

 

From: Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:40 AM
To: Loopers Delight
Subject: softstep and mobius users

 

hey gang,
if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have tons of questio= ns and there arent any forums that i know of yet
plus we can start helping future users here as well
lets hook up!
cheers
Luis

--_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9barqsailpoi_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 16:52:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06A893BE94; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rlbaOzpLqUY9YdEkUnYHmXHAIjU9rSRmgtueEvG3X/M=; b=JDkTUWlfUoP3Kzpg0A4Km9WMYnJ54gXO2fwdN7Xdfth23vO2ZykwH7ENuDerr857mP hcvZQik4Kqctd8l7nocXW00oOyQQ01gz6TU4jSkBDxljby9EIxNWACxNDW8fVoRyLA8b LUmisS5bqgchZ405kVJI3F4pfFTQIAtqmlzJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=k3+0qON+fIZl3Uj35VHQRBXMjGbxYe50QjuUzw7OhE71hM9fMMkrIDw8vNWFnPx304 ZPji0m2XR2cdGWTDehGngc8NxYTuuXRtBojfK0Us11b84ZZp2L4l32htFrMcOZqB7W6z OKgjN3nPx/5fQs65Cc/ypIgEp44lkLxjS+7EU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:52:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8d608b4b21049400a2e8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:52:35 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8d608b4b21049400a2e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the manual it says this about that :) "Stack & Droning =E2=88=86 - The Stack function can add sound to a loop in = two different ways. Stack behaves as described in Sections 10.1 and 11.1 whether the Stack optional behavior is on or off. The difference is in the details of adding sound to a loop. With the Stack optional behavior turned off, 2 short (10 millisecond) volum= e ramps are added to the loop at its boundary. This the point where the loop=E2=80=99s end is jo= ined to its beginning. This is done to avoid clicks and pops that can occur, and it works great. But if you want to record a smooth, continuous note or chord, like an organ= , the volume dip can be heard. It=E2=80=99s not a pop or a click, but it is noticeable. So what=E2= =80=99s a drone enthusiast to do? Simply turn on the Stack optional behavior. Doing this removes the volume ramps added during stacking. Voila!Take your eBow in hand and create a smooth drooooooooooooooooooone...= " sounds very hopeful there! j On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Ruelle Benoit wrote= : > Hello, > > Yes it's nice to see you on the list. I'm also interested to learn about > the "ambient" possibilities of the boomerang III. > > from Todd Matthews: > "Set the optional stacking behavior so you can record seamless loops w/o > volume ramps at the loop boundaries" > > Can someone explain this a bit further? What is this special behavior? I > would like to record seamless drones using an Ebow, is this really a > seamless looping? > > Xmas in approaching, The boomerang is on my wishlist as is a M9, time to > make a choice, money is limited ;-) > > Ben. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jeff Duke > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Monday, November 01, 2010 1:23 PM > *Subject:* Re: Boomerang 3 > > Hi Mike, good to have you here for a bit! > > Ambient looping guitarist here. We haven't corresponded since I upgraded = my > original Boomerang many moons ago. > > Sjaaks questions are pretty much mine also. I am looking forward to your > report eagerly! > > > Jeff > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote= : > >> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike wrote: >> > Hi loopers, >> > I'll be visiting LD for a little while to answer any Boomerang(R) III >> > questions that may arise. >> >> Hi Mike, >> I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard about the >> version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how feedback/decay >> exactly works on the Rang III. From what I understand from the manual >> and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a decay knob to >> control feedback. My question: does decay work for each track >> individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on the >> current track? Example: is it possible to set decay to 70% with track >> 1 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without adding new >> audio to the loop itself? Or use track 2 to create a new loop at the >> same time with decay on 50% for example? >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> Sjaak Overgaauw >> http://premonitionfactory.com/ >> http://livelooping.be/ >> > > --90e6ba6e8d608b4b21049400a2e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the manual it says this about that :)

"Stack & Droning = =E2=88=86 - The Stack function can add sound to a loop in two different way= s.
Stack behaves as described in Sections 10.1 and 11.1 whether the Stac= k optional behavior is on or
off. The difference is in the details of adding sound to a loop.
With th= e Stack optional behavior turned off, 2 short (10 millisecond) volume ramps= are added to
the loop at its boundary. This the point where the loop=E2= =80=99s end is joined to its beginning. This is done
to avoid clicks and pops that can occur, and it works great.
But if you = want to record a smooth, continuous note or chord, like an organ, the volum= e dip can be
heard. It=E2=80=99s not a pop or a click, but it is noticea= ble. So what=E2=80=99s a drone enthusiast to do? Simply turn
on the Stack optional behavior. Doing this removes the volume ramps added d= uring stacking.
Voila!Take your eBow in hand and create a smooth drooooo= oooooooooooooone..."

sounds very hopeful there!

j

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Ruelle Beno= it <benoitrue= lle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Hello,
=C2=A0
Yes it's nice to see you on the li= st. I'm also=20 interested to learn about the "ambient" possibilities of the boom= erang=20 III.
=C2=A0
from Todd=20 Matthews:
"Set the optional stacking behavior so you c= an record=20 seamless loops w/o volume ramps at the loop boundaries"<= /div>
=C2=A0
Can someone explain this a bit further= ? What is=20 this special behavior? I would like to record seamless drones using an Ebow= , is=20 this really a seamless looping?
=C2=A0
Xmas in approaching, The boomerang is = on my=20 wishlist as is a M9, time to make a choice, money is limited ;-)
=C2=A0
Ben.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff Duke=20
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1= :23=20 PM
Subject: Re: Boomerang 3

Hi Mike, good to have you here for a bit!

Ambient= =20 looping guitarist here. We haven't corresponded since I upgraded my o= riginal=20 Boomerang many moons ago.

Sjaaks questions are pretty much mine a= lso.=20 I am looking forward to your report eagerly!


Jeff


On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Sjaak Overgaau= w <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, = 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com>=20 wrote:
> Hi loopers,
> I'll be visiting LD for a little= while to=20 answer any Boomerang(R) III
> questions that may arise.

Hi= =20 Mike,
I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard abo= ut=20 the
version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how=20 feedback/decay
exactly works on the Rang III. From what I understand= from=20 the manual
and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a dec= ay=20 knob to
control feedback. My question: does decay work for each=20 track
individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on=20 =C2=A0the
current track? Example: is it possible to set decay to 70%= with=20 track
1 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without ad= ding=20 new
audio to the loop itself? Or use track 2 to create a new loop at= =20 the
same time with decay on 50% for example?

Thanks!

--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premonitionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/


--90e6ba6e8d608b4b21049400a2e8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 16:55:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DBCD3BE91; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=NtlGhqB4e6YFT1lpDpgVLwdAKVb9OONs7vqqg2J8VXE=; b=YFJerLi1+JWpdv6fERCfXRHe+K8PVhKoudN7dfVIqg1Pa5WBukoKSW3+itmiCvvN6S RG4I1vPhP4Zb1ZquSo96bkPqXhpiznKJFIitKWiYN6LT5fbwrQ3PIStPS+BXxOnQZG1F AhniqxiPU+8P2yQTOyOq/5HN5WL2uiT5UQukk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=FPbKU/TXqi7v+Eqsnk+GFaxIJdW1sP8PAjMqUYT9nGun+gXzAMbxgaCXJIoSzkvwlT j5eG8xjEnpIr4gonJ0e9bhAdZCIQm6lyj5fOYNAtqneEjedwRa2S+68kvjdVkNcuw686 KheveI0wYgWdNdO1ZSABwKig0T6HaFyy9SSnQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:55:08 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pbE_nOrWIgqfQNX6EeF0SSpKWn4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303dd87aee49b1049400acb2 Resent-Message-ID: <4LKoiB.A.RHB.DEvzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:55:31 +0000 (UTC) --20cf303dd87aee49b1049400acb2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have to warn everyone that the software seems less than stable right now... I had a good couple of days, and then WHAP! new firmware and new software completely put me at a standstill. I agree with you Jeff that it might be hard to control volume and feedback... It IS eminently configurable tho (when the software is working) and there is already a "slew" control to smooth out "wiggly foot syndrome"... On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > I have one on order. Just reading specs, I'll probably > > set it up much like the FCB, each switch sends note on/off > > 0-9 in bank 1, 10-19 in bank 2, etc. > > > > I'm not sure how useful the pressure sensitivity will be. > > > > The obvious candidates are the output level, feedback, and pan > > controls but you usually want those to be smooth and it sounds > > like that might be difficult. If we have to we could implement > > some kind of controller smoothing with scripts. > > > > Rate and pitch shift amount are other possibilities. Setting > > parameters like the number of subcycles or Quantize Mode could > > also be done but for those I think it's easier to cycle through > > a set of values just by pressing a switch several times rather > > than trying to dial one in with pressure. > > > > We'll see... > > > > Jeff > > > > *From:* Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, November 01, 2010 6:40 AM > *To:* Loopers Delight > *Subject:* softstep and mobius users > > > > hey gang, > if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have tons of > questions and there arent any forums that i know of yet > plus we can start helping future users here as well > lets hook up! > cheers > Luis > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf303dd87aee49b1049400acb2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to warn everyone that the software seems less than stable right now.= .. I had a good couple of days, and then WHAP! new firmware and new softwar= e=A0completely=A0put me at a standstill.

I agree with yo= u Jeff that it might be hard to control volume and feedback... It IS eminen= tly configurable tho (when the software is working) and there is already a = "slew" control to smooth out "wiggly foot syndrome"...<= /div>






On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sa= ilpoint.com> wrote:

I hav= e one on order.=A0 Just reading specs, I'll probably

set i= t up much like the FCB, each switch sends note on/off

0-9 i= n bank 1, 10-19 in bank 2, etc.

=A0

I'= ;m not sure how useful the pressure sensitivity will be.

=A0

The o= bvious candidates are the output level, feedback, and pan

contr= ols but you usually want those to be smooth and it sounds

like = that might be difficult.=A0 If we have to we could implement

some = kind of controller smoothing with scripts.=A0

=A0

Rate = and pitch shift amount are other possibilities.=A0 Setting

param= eters like the number of subcycles or Quantize Mode could

also = be done but for those I think it's easier to cycle through

a set= of values just by pressing a switch several times rather

than = trying to dial one in with pressure.

=A0

We= 9;ll see...

=A0

Jeff<= /span>

=A0

From:= Louie Angulo [mailto:lo= uie.angulo@googlemail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:40 AM
To: Loopers Delight
Subject: softstep and mobius users

=A0

hey gang,
if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have tons of questio= ns and there arent any forums that i know of yet
plus we can start helping future users here as well
lets hook up!
cheers
Luis




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf303dd87aee49b1049400acb2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 16:58:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39B0E3BE93; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <0AD1E31E-9632-4330-B31C-A25DB36669FB@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--1061618367 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:58:30 -0700 References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <0ivWk.A.hOB.5GvzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:58:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--1061618367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to use the softstep to just send PC and note messages on various channels, spread across 4 different banks (or "scenes" in softstep-speak). I must be a doof because I'm finding this surprisingly hard to achieve. I have time to take another stab at it today. But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know of...this seems a good place to compare notes. On Nov 1, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > I have one on order. Just reading specs, I'll probably > set it up much like the FCB, each switch sends note on/off > 0-9 in bank 1, 10-19 in bank 2, etc. > > I'm not sure how useful the pressure sensitivity will be. > > The obvious candidates are the output level, feedback, and pan > controls but you usually want those to be smooth and it sounds > like that might be difficult. If we have to we could implement > some kind of controller smoothing with scripts. > > Rate and pitch shift amount are other possibilities. Setting > parameters like the number of subcycles or Quantize Mode could > also be done but for those I think it's easier to cycle through > a set of values just by pressing a switch several times rather > than trying to dial one in with pressure. > > We'll see... > > Jeff > > From: Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com] > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:40 AM > To: Loopers Delight > Subject: softstep and mobius users > > hey gang, > if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have tons of > questions and there arent any forums that i know of yet > plus we can start helping future users here as well > lets hook up! > cheers > Luis --Apple-Mail-2--1061618367 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to use the softstep to = just send PC and note messages on various channels, spread across 4 = different banks (or "scenes" in softstep-speak).

I = must be a doof because I'm finding this surprisingly hard to achieve. I = have time to take another stab at it = today. 

But yes, there isn't any user = forum that I know of...this seems a good place to compare = notes.


On Nov 1, 2010, = at 9:41 AM, Jeff Larson wrote:

I = have one on order.  Just reading specs, I'll = probably
set = it up much like the FCB, each switch sends note = on/off
0-9 = in bank 1, 10-19 in bank 2, etc.
I'm = not sure how useful the pressure sensitivity will = be.
The = obvious candidates are the output level, feedback, and = pan
controls = but you usually want those to be smooth and it = sounds
like = that might be difficult.  If we have to we could = implement
some = kind of controller smoothing with = scripts. 
Rate = and pitch shift amount are other possibilities.  = Setting
also = be done but for those I think it's easier to cycle = through
a set = of values just by pressing a switch several times = rather
than = trying to dial one in with pressure.
We'll = see...

= --Apple-Mail-2--1061618367-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 17:05:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0644A3BE98; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=dP5xne3dkwyjsOpTUQk/rBwFkjuQQYF2mnCzQrrfPm4=; b=rlw8A2wqvO+hEZjQgzL9bYMQEwt5zzRUtqZWKqDpNwhgLOtoo2MMiqWG8Gcug1Bm6L 6HvP+nmpAW9BuJL5Yu/2xc9gS7xNImbXHniQn/NRVmN9QRUSFVi1nao3n6aaU2YhUV/F PoSBZNttsj5TH+oz37Qwly/ymG+utKfnhkewM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=e27GV9ojUFG6nLHSKNvHxtIGXhJwfJC+j5bv8jZ3Tu3DgBw8Hx4oIk7GSTGWQfJ6Hp 4R9gJE/yx3hdCLS8+0HYK97mXzZJ9sHL9xb5KDUqo9YYUclliV+9SR5MibZSjHYApVaP SgvHV7o+FET9LG8beKvFRsdDDspPmfpjZ90b0= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Boomerang III in Italy From: "Bruno E. Kleinefeld" In-Reply-To: <20101101165236.75F5C3BE8C@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:04:56 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20101101165236.75F5C3BE8C@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mike nice to see you on the list I take advantage of your presence to ask you if and when the Rang3 will = be distributed in Italy. I saw that there is a shop in Verona where one is supposed to find it, = but on their website you can find only the gigbag for the older model. And years ago (I owned the first model)- when I called them I remember = they weren't very helpful. In case I could maybe point you to a better distributor (I think your = product DO deserve a better distribution) ... Thanks a lot best b:k= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 17:09:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B232D3BE99; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :to:x-mailer; bh=98ZxPn8diEwkc9cmkf+ZC9Mzgtm4b+ffiiGVzMTXiow=; b=wiW5P38jv5Erly7rPbdogu0xjbjtEFPz65HKc292vlfcPsRulevaY1nGFFi2uZk6hX Ls+nFoKx8WKFHW60dU+TAWVBlJhetypfT+GBm4QDXD1mvtvYeBji+sr4NZrNQdNXZ0ZI aAL25hF2KwJLZnawxRrB8YO/Be1eEijSnMJ7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=EYz4jv4EwzFi9MDGKfUut94UlvXabZL6GtKI5IeCWS4llmw6IU4HxH6K/x3rY90OBa NQJyavN3koItdZ8ayN/fx3wVyEWfwwVxu84w6zYhC0hCmryCZzCEJ5fwbqQYIVMn6wep v+3F5lQlGp/AcRF1fuHK/GOFFz1MmehU9CVeU= Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1060993224 From: Todd Matthews X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:08:55 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: <-UEXtD.A.ulB.tQvzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:09:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1060993224 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Before the new version 2 software there was a volume ramp at the loop = boundaries to avoid any pops and clicks, now if you change the stacking = behavior you can overdub a long held note over the loop boundary without = hearing a volume ramp down/up. It works great for me because I'm bowing = a string instrument and I think that would be the way to go with an ebow = as well. -Todd Matthews On Nov 1, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Ruelle Benoit wrote: > Hello, > =20 > Yes it's nice to see you on the list. I'm also interested to learn = about the "ambient" possibilities of the boomerang III. > =20 > from Todd Matthews: > "Set the optional stacking behavior so you can record seamless loops = w/o volume ramps at the loop boundaries" > =20 > Can someone explain this a bit further? What is this special behavior? = I would like to record seamless drones using an Ebow, is this really a = seamless looping? > =20 > Xmas in approaching, The boomerang is on my wishlist as is a M9, time = to make a choice, money is limited ;-) > =20 > Ben. > =20 > =20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jeff Duke > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:23 PM > Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 >=20 > Hi Mike, good to have you here for a bit! >=20 > Ambient looping guitarist here. We haven't corresponded since I = upgraded my original Boomerang many moons ago.=20 >=20 > Sjaaks questions are pretty much mine also. I am looking forward to = your report eagerly! >=20 >=20 > Jeff >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw = wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike = wrote: > > Hi loopers, > > I'll be visiting LD for a little while to answer any Boomerang(R) = III > > questions that may arise. >=20 > Hi Mike, > I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard about the > version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how feedback/decay > exactly works on the Rang III. =46rom what I understand from the = manual > and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a decay knob to > control feedback. My question: does decay work for each track > individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on the > current track? Example: is it possible to set decay to 70% with track > 1 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without adding new > audio to the loop itself? Or use track 2 to create a new loop at the > same time with decay on 50% for example? >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--1060993224 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Before the new version 2 software there was a = volume ramp at the loop boundaries to avoid any pops and clicks, now if = you change the stacking behavior you can overdub a long held note over = the loop boundary without hearing a volume ramp down/up. It works great = for me because I'm bowing a string instrument and I think that would be = the way to go with an ebow as = well.


-Todd Matthews
On = Nov 1, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Ruelle Benoit wrote:

Hello,
 
Yes= it's nice to see you on the list. I'm also interested to learn about = the "ambient" possibilities of the boomerang III.
 
from Todd = Matthews:
"Set the optional stacking behavior = so you can record seamless loops w/o volume ramps at the loop = boundaries"
 
Can= someone explain this a bit further? What is this special behavior? I = would like to record seamless drones using an Ebow, is this really a = seamless looping?
 
Xmas in approaching, The boomerang is on my wishlist as = is a M9, time to make a choice, money is limited = ;-)
 
Ben.
 
 
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 = 1:23 PM
 Re: = Boomerang 3

Hi Mike, good to have you here for a = bit!

Ambient looping guitarist here. We haven't corresponded = since I upgraded my original Boomerang many moons ago. 

Sjaaks questions = are pretty much mine also. I am looking forward to your report = eagerly!


Jeff


On Mon, = Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com&= gt; wrote:
> Hi loopers,
> I'll be visiting LD for a little = while to answer any Boomerang(R) III
> questions that may = arise.

Hi Mike,
I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when = I heard about the
version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know = how feedback/decay
exactly works on the Rang III. =46rom what I = understand from the manual
and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that = you have a decay knob to
control feedback. My question: does decay = work for each track
individually or does it only work in = overdub/stack mode on  the
current track? Example: is it = possible to set decay to 70% with track
1 in play mode causing a slow = fade out of the track without adding new
audio to the loop itself? Or = use track 2 to create a new loop at the
same time with decay on 50% = for example?

Thanks!

--
Sjaak = Overgaauw
http://premonitionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/
=


= --Apple-Mail-1--1060993224-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 17:24:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0959B3BE92; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rV0nIBNquLirAm7u5pv7DnxgtyBuD4g8a6yqC8rod1o=; b=Urc+MJ1KMwvCnD3u3OMNuHfKRp4thymkURraH7L70NciqJsiJFoTzNkz+nHIW9mp/S Exkh0RqNFYs8SmPjFiTTq6zYXNpAf2ONrYwORmLdDpy7QtOrM2gRlyS0vbb5kWPPQ+fA mEdlDw0imxaWpMHPk1cl1foNEtdymZNyVPTXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vxcGP2d/AxYjmk4OV1GBRe6gkAxG3pbFJasy1Z/BLn54QuxSYwGxmW3uQsTetcntVf 7JCcHuNZKWUfXMlVEOv4Gq7QocanKYH53KjEbtvUll6jrlhpT3397IlKwo5cy0TN+Zgg NlCWpjiNT+ibvH6Fe41n7fni0UTnL6gQhuuAc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0AD1E31E-9632-4330-B31C-A25DB36669FB@zoekeating.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> <0AD1E31E-9632-4330-B31C-A25DB36669FB@zoekeating.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:24:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:24:21 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know of...this seems a good place > to compare notes. Someone should register an e-mail list. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 18:04:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8E473BE93; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=okU44rvFGwDo0YVfQL9iBGg7DqZ9nlHmPoO4iejyhyI=; b=Moe+UwzwN3m0hyU2toPMv7OMQagDYR6VfvF+oE3lgEZ7LJKtVQwCaq7NSjQ4AEH1Ab 95cCdDKWDWBwZ7PmX0ELW4JuKHP6Pzwo5eQ7ovPI2ha8Twg8u7lgkXF+xOWum9KeShkK GkKSZ6+3aSWicgeUF0w77ySntVTp+nGXaccQQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=xLZYs8ebHn/vZ3/ePXXCDyjTogn5woSEQ+hM0BBZwMOhg7qbUU6cqBxI/5rzVgWuR6 qf/UNMsjeAmbKyxrwCJw+9gpuul/5rKzkUoFqzQnBVLshQZQvyJMfpiMbbfCtydWdlcc FeORvgU/0VD+SnEL4l9gEx/2qVoRJFavO80Y8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> <0AD1E31E-9632-4330-B31C-A25DB36669FB@zoekeating.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:03:59 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Yyb7ZuDcsJDT3IOSPjjIu7DxBRg Message-ID: Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba5bc7831d85fa049401a3dc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:04:20 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba5bc7831d85fa049401a3dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just a quick note on this: For those that are desperate I have created a Yahoo list. to sub you go... softstep-subscribe@yahoogroups.com BUT!!! I wanted to run this past Keith first, and he tells me that they are planning a forum as we speak. I think that it will be better to use the forum when it materializes. And I may remove the Yahoo list after its appearance. But as we dont know when that might be, I thought it might be ok to use this as a notepad to list current issues, and.. OK wishlist etc etc... Keith McMillen to mark * * Hi - we have forum planned - will get you news as we have it. Thanks, Keith Keith McMillen 510 502 5310 www.keithmcmillen.com "Technology for Strings" On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > > But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know of...this seems a good > place > > to compare notes. > > Someone should register an e-mail list. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba5bc7831d85fa049401a3dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a quick note on this:

For those that are desperate<= br>
I have created a Yahoo list.
to sub you go...
<= br>

BUT!!! I wanted to run this past Keith f= irst, and he tells me that they are planning a forum as we speak.

I think that it will be better to use the forum when it=A0materializ= es. And I may remove the Yahoo list after its appearance. But as we dont kn= ow when that might be, I thought it might be ok to use this as a notepad to= list current issues, and.. OK wishlist etc etc...



Keith McMillen

= =A0to=A0mark
Hi -=A0

we = have forum planned - will get you news as we have it.

<= div> Thanks,

Keith
=A0
Keith McMillen
510 50= 2 5310
www.keithmcmillen.com
&= quot;Technology for Strings"


<= br>
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Per Boysen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
> But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know of...this seems a = good place
> to compare notes.

Someone should register an e-mail list.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
mark francombewww.markfranco= mbe.com
www.= ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://= www.looop.no
--90e6ba5bc7831d85fa049401a3dc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 18:19:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C999D3BE8D; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=f/+YYzKflWo9K1rECh6QaL81JRJ0GQHeWuI6UcDHc/s=; b=hOu/BN173bg9H3tsMDpE2ns5bn4gupBgaaiEG+sDyQdx1GKMVHfy/JbnaivxDudqzu 4vj7gEzIgpRgQICe+NIl60Zm/sxzzTdG1N26//2YRZKn75aihmRDIK370g807w63+p0j SMh+MCI0srI5BixjKhynEVkG7Ws/HLWE8FLMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=STdZt9VYKWwJwOF3uMEsI5tKEhcm6NbJ95vb0lnAxfCsDTu2GHGZZjiahA6zUJjII3 KQ4IvIccqmEmN+NB5eSSedlxaU7rHWXN8SW3s7QJsBUFra/IoSAmvgT/qKJLeAZcESEz q52oVgG4Fph9WMEJKEHwju9hHidyji+EswtQs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> <0AD1E31E-9632-4330-B31C-A25DB36669FB@zoekeating.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:19:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b84418a6ad049401d894 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:19:09 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b84418a6ad049401d894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well i must be doof as well,Im having a hard time just to set it to trigger the record function on mobius! ive set it up to send a note message on the modulation window but when i do a midi learn in the mobius midi control window its still sending a weird CC of 47 and it triggers record in a very quickly and unstable way as if it ws sending more messages at once! ive wasted the whole morning on this,it reminds me of the liquid foot i hope this is not the case again,the more i go through sofisticated footcontrollers the more i appreciate the cheap and bulky FCB1010! Luis On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:03 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Just a quick note on this: > > For those that are desperate > I have created a Yahoo list. > to sub you go... > > softstep-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > BUT!!! I wanted to run this past Keith first, and he tells me that they are > planning a forum as we speak. > > I think that it will be better to use the forum when it materializes. And I > may remove the Yahoo list after its appearance. But as we dont know when > that might be, I thought it might be ok to use this as a notepad to list > current issues, and.. OK wishlist etc etc... > > > > Keith McMillen to mark > * > * > Hi - > > we have forum planned - will get you news as we have it. > > Thanks, > > Keith > > Keith McMillen > 510 502 5310 > www.keithmcmillen.com > "Technology for Strings" > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: >> > But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know of...this seems a good >> place >> > to compare notes. >> >> Someone should register an e-mail list. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > --00151747b84418a6ad049401d894 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well i must be doof as well,Im having a hard time just to set it to trigger= the record function on mobius! ive set it up to send a note message on the= modulation window but when i do a midi learn in the mobius midi control wi= ndow its still sending a weird CC of 47 and it triggers record in a very qu= ickly and unstable way as if it ws sending more messages at once!
ive wasted the whole morning on this,it reminds me of the liquid foot i hop= e this is not the case again,the more i go through sofisticated footcontrol= lers the more i appreciate the cheap and bulky FCB1010!
Luis

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:03 AM, mark francombe = <mark@markfr= ancombe.com> wrote:
Just a quick note on this:

For those that are desperate<= br>
I have created a Yahoo list.
to sub you go...
<= br>

BUT!!! I wanted to run this past Keith= first, and he tells me that they are planning a forum as we speak.<= /div>

I think that it will be better to use the forum when it=A0materiali= zes. And I may remove the Yahoo list after its appearance. But as we dont k= now when that might be, I thought it might be ok to use this as a notepad t= o list current issues, and.. OK wishlist etc etc...

<= /tbody>



Keith McMillen

=A0to= =A0mark
=
Hi -=A0

we have forum plan= ned - will get you news as we have it.

Thanks,

Keith
=A0
Keith McMillen
510 50= 2 5310
www.keithmcmillen.com
&q= uot;Technology for Strings"


<= div>


On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Per Boysen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
> But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know of...this seems a = good place
> to compare notes.

Someone should register an e-mail list.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://= www.looop.no

--00151747b84418a6ad049401d894-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 18:26:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B8F23BE89; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=7MKuWIC087kaJf4XfwcbVz4eM6xY8k6JWZ+4aB3CPK4=; b=oQiFYQj0j1INCq7qLIfPcMxrAbYKh0+xaWya66hVRrxsJdkktZ5ZpODuqJZy/d0dyG OnoWON5DA59pqB3RW0PcXZX1J39FP1kY4t10fp0MmdXxvhddAxR4TCpmUbCgazWmZiRG aRRfWI8kz9GzXPxTzsGInCacioWeemgi7Fzs4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=jrCg2fKUlJzM+B1QgG+rCIBetAYxbjLCJboir93Mb9w+cIHT/5Y7f7w3p027vVcMfN NhOloLpkdC+KQ7a/MTLOV7k/PyoTrmPNrykuYuPR5nQ12fN3Hgq4eqC6UE/nVPTlaCJp lomW1nG9VF6IpFYTG6iu6IVWxPb73BFYlY6NY= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1056316541 Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 14:26:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> <0AD1E31E-9632-4330-B31C-A25DB36669FB@zoekeating.com> Message-Id: <0D9ACE9C-B2E6-449D-A14F-E449B08EFCBD@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: <0PsR7D.A.FXD.xZwzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:26:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1056316541 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If your on OSX you could use "Midi Monitor". It is a simple and = freeprogram that can monitors the midi from your midi devices. It might = help you figure out what is going on. http://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/ On Nov 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Well i must be doof as well,Im having a hard time just to set it to = trigger the record function on mobius! ive set it up to send a note = message on the modulation window but when i do a midi learn in the = mobius midi control window its still sending a weird CC of 47 and it = triggers record in a very quickly and unstable way as if it ws sending = more messages at once! > ive wasted the whole morning on this,it reminds me of the liquid foot = i hope this is not the case again,the more i go through sofisticated = footcontrollers the more i appreciate the cheap and bulky FCB1010! > Luis >=20 > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:03 AM, mark francombe = wrote: > Just a quick note on this: >=20 > For those that are desperate > I have created a Yahoo list. > to sub you go... >=20 > softstep-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >=20 > BUT!!! I wanted to run this past Keith first, and he tells me that = they are planning a forum as we speak. >=20 > I think that it will be better to use the forum when it materializes. = And I may remove the Yahoo list after its appearance. But as we dont = know when that might be, I thought it might be ok to use this as a = notepad to list current issues, and.. OK wishlist etc etc... >=20 >=20 >=20 > Keith McMillen to mark >=20 > Hi -=20 >=20 > we have forum planned - will get you news as we have it. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Keith > =20 > Keith McMillen > 510 502 5310 > www.keithmcmillen.com > "Technology for Strings" >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Per Boysen = wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Zoe Keating = wrote: > > But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know of...this seems a = good place > > to compare notes. >=20 > Someone should register an e-mail list. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--1056316541 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii If your on OSX you could use "Midi Monitor". It is a simple and freeprogram that can monitors the midi from your midi devices. It might help you figure out what is going on.

http://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/




On Nov 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Louie Angulo wrote:

Well i must be doof as well,Im having a hard time just to set it to trigger the record function on mobius! ive set it up to send a note message on the modulation window but when i do a midi learn in the mobius midi control window its still sending a weird CC of 47 and it triggers record in a very quickly and unstable way as if it ws sending more messages at once!
ive wasted the whole morning on this,it reminds me of the liquid foot i hope this is not the case again,the more i go through sofisticated footcontrollers the more i appreciate the cheap and bulky FCB1010!
Luis

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:03 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Just a quick note on this:

For those that are desperate
I have created a Yahoo list.
to sub you go...


BUT!!! I wanted to run this past Keith first, and he tells me that they are planning a forum as we speak.

I think that it will be better to use the forum when it materializes. And I may remove the Yahoo list after its appearance. But as we dont know when that might be, I thought it might be ok to use this as a notepad to list current issues, and.. OK wishlist etc etc...



Keith McMillen

 to mark
Hi - 

we have forum planned - will get you news as we have it.

Thanks,

Keith
 
Keith McMillen
510 502 5310
www.keithmcmillen.com
"Technology for Strings"




On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
> But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know of...this seems a good place
> to compare notes.

Someone should register an e-mail list.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no


--Apple-Mail-1--1056316541-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 18:28:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 851933BE8E; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:28:21 -0500 Subject: RE: softstep and mobius users Thread-Topic: softstep and mobius users Thread-Index: Act58UjDPRcx9lg4QZCAYj2HwKdWjwAALIVw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CEA92@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> <0AD1E31E-9632-4330-B31C-A25DB36669FB@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-vipre-scanned: 46DD82BA001C1146DD8407 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CEA92barqsailpoi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:28:39 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CEA92barqsailpoi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you're on Windows get MIDI-OX, if you're on Mac get MidiMonitor and see = what it is sending. My guess is that you're getting the note and also some CCs in response to t= he pressure, kind of like aftertouch on a keyboard. If so then you'll need to disable pressu= re sensitivity, that would certainly confuse the MIDI learn window. Jeff From: Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:19 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users Well i must be doof as well,Im having a hard time just to set it to trigger= the record function on mobius! ive set it up to send a note message on the= modulation window but when i do a midi learn in the mobius midi control wi= ndow its still sending a weird CC of 47 and it triggers record in a very qu= ickly and unstable way as if it ws sending more messages at once! ive wasted the whole morning on this,it reminds me of the liquid foot i hop= e this is not the case again,the more i go through sofisticated footcontrol= lers the more i appreciate the cheap and bulky FCB1010! --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CEA92barqsailpoi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If you're on Windows get MIDI-OX, if you're on Mac get MidiMonitor and see what it is sending. 

My guess is that you're getting the note and also some CCs i= n response to the pressure, kind

of like aftertouch on a keyboard.  If so then you'll ne= ed to disable pressure sensitivity, that would

certainly confuse the MIDI learn window. 

 

Jeff

 

 

From: Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:19 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users

 

Well i must be doof as = well,Im having a hard time just to set it to trigger the record function on mobius!= ive set it up to send a note message on the modulation window but when i do a m= idi learn in the mobius midi control window its still sending a weird CC of 47 = and it triggers record in a very quickly and unstable way as if it ws sending m= ore messages at once!
ive wasted the whole morning on this,it reminds me of the liquid foot i hop= e this is not the case again,the more i go through sofisticated footcontrolle= rs the more i appreciate the cheap and bulky FCB1010!

 

--_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CEA92barqsailpoi_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 18:31:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 519B03BE94; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 550130.44704.bm@omp1032.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=wzyoV2mfxZuqLWAGGWVSmY2/Bwn1FNCUf6BVQW7SsB/h8BF57PGEX1bSHYW+m6vYGHUnBhOCOch9podJLtvBdZP8MyMPb8KjWs3hij+kX/6HOWN7ndbwJdZMZ5zCUNV0IC1KzE9fwmqjyHrkDVNa2V+4QFqyQ7+FGORhst/ubiI= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1288636317; bh=ns6V+9jiNhbmfq8wvYUl+OC5GVrEJ8ypYKMeAGXfQwI=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=dvw1DNosBEAhxHCCsZqTu7nLBrmWGljoYI9rJzbhTb/G5X4t+T9Hx8JUHDLmehgrq33N9AJOg3wKsICkbjJXcbfXzoVmfzWU0hQxdk4vg7JJgDs6tiPEfYWD3Fd6xRIy4xYPfBO5S+Pj1VTkrqJj6J5t6KNb9Z+HCPfF/jangD0= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: rTBb82sVM1lqjlqvpFOvHZWMW0MWGTpnaR0cRjGBR4oK6QW gcgl3ji_Dfidb_v90AEPht5EhzErz_O2hFchxGJkWAiDXCn2FTlLS8lt7k4x SGdCHSAl1R1ii7xxWUIP7H9KqWi8adayv0k4yFYResnrfsN_BfAarXdHnUC. Q3nM2iU8kjJqgz0a0l1Xt7.YY_2R_rRvKxSJ3AYLUCP0FhIIqUyMYhHKlVMa mqUXr2vPkgiD3U_9jwYmpun_iRuZ2g40i_jBkHObz39t4YBGs8e4sUFlAaQl 3HAoNZ0BoA2WpjhNIg3dZiA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <7B00659D416D4CC6A7DCED8B4B8B20BC@PC576340162804> From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: References: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:31:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B5_01CB79FB.7236FE70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: <859HtD.A.PkD.fewzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:31:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01CB79FB.7236FE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great news !!!! Thank you for the infos Jeff and Todd. Ben ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Todd Matthews=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:08 PM Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 Before the new version 2 software there was a volume ramp at the loop = boundaries to avoid any pops and clicks, now if you change the stacking = behavior you can overdub a long held note over the loop boundary without = hearing a volume ramp down/up. It works great for me because I'm bowing = a string instrument and I think that would be the way to go with an ebow = as well. ------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01CB79FB.7236FE70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
great news !!!!
Thank you for the infos Jeff and = Todd.
 
Ben
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Before the new version 2 software there was a volume = ramp at=20 the loop boundaries to avoid any pops and clicks, now if you change = the=20 stacking behavior you can overdub a long held note over the loop = boundary=20 without hearing a volume ramp down/up. It works great for me because = I'm=20 bowing a string instrument and I think that would be the way to go = with an=20 ebow as well.

------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01CB79FB.7236FE70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 18:58:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDAB43BEB2; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <11EE8EF3-729E-4778-8AE0-5F289A490069@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:58:46 -0700 References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> <0AD1E31E-9632-4330-B31C-A25DB36669FB@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <2B3HhD.A.4PE.o3wzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:58:48 +0000 (UTC) I'm using MidiMonitor right now to see what the SoftStep is sending. Its very helpful. I'm also seeing a slew of Control messages ....looks sometime like this: 00:21:34.659 From Port 1 Control 1 Sound Control 10 26 00:21:34.667 From Bus 1 Program 1 15 00:21:34.669 From Port 1 Control 1 Sound Control 10 107 00:21:34.679 From Port 1 Control 1 Sound Control 10 113 00:21:34.690 From Port 1 Control 1 Sound Control 10 115 00:21:34.700 From Port 1 Control 1 Sound Control 10 116 00:21:34.751 From Port 1 Control 1 Sound Control 10 114 00:21:34.761 From Port 1 Control 1 Sound Control 10 105 00:21:34.771 From Port 1 Control 1 Sound Control 10 60 00:21:34.781 From Port 1 Control 1 Sound Control 10 0 00:21:44.987 From Port 1 Control 1 General Purpose 5 0 Note though that the extra messages are from Port1 instead of Bus1 (i.e. IAC driver), so I've got both "SoftStep (Port1)" and "from SoftStep 1" turned off in Ableton midi prefs and am only using my crowded IAC driver (I also use the IAC to make Ableton trigger itself and SooperLooper) They insist on using only the IAC driver in the SoftStep manual. I don't understand why when it seems to show up as its own input in Ableton but I don't really know the details of how these things work. As long as it works! On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Well i must be doof as well,Im having a hard time just to set it to > trigger the record function on mobius! ive set it up to send a note > message on the modulation window but when i do a midi learn in the > mobius midi control window its still sending a weird CC of 47 and it > triggers record in a very quickly and unstable way as if it ws > sending more messages at once! > ive wasted the whole morning on this,it reminds me of the liquid > foot i hope this is not the case again,the more i go through > sofisticated footcontrollers the more i appreciate the cheap and > bulky FCB1010! > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 19:09:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06E1C3BE91; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CCF1045.90308@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:08:53 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 References: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2010 19:09:13.0394 (UTC) FILETIME=[456EF120:01CB79F8] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:09:13 +0000 (UTC) On 01-Nov-10 12:08 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Before the new version 2 software there was a volume ramp at the loop boundaries to avoid any pops and clicks, > now if you change the stacking behavior you can overdub a long held note over the loop boundary without > hearing a volume ramp down/up. It works great for me because I'm bowing a string instrument and I think that > would be the way to go with an ebow as well. We placed the volume ramps at loop boundaries to avoid clips and pops, and it works well; they are on the order of 5-10ms long, and simply go to zero then back up to full level. However if you record a long note, ala cello, eBow or organ, you can hear the volume dip. Hence the addition of the "special behavior." In addition to loop boundary ramps, there are ramps at the beginning & end of stacked data, again, to avoid pops and clicks. These include ramps identical to those used when creating a loop, at the loop boundary. The special behavior turns off the loop boundary ramps when stacking. To create a "drone" loop on the III, turn on the special behavior then do the following. Play nothing, tap loop button 1 (for example), activate Stack, tap loop button 1 again and you will have an empty loop playing with Stack active. Use volume swells to smoothly fade your note/chord in and out. Voila. > -Todd Matthews > On Nov 1, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Ruelle Benoit wrote: > >> Hello, >> Yes it's nice to see you on the list. I'm also interested to learn about the "ambient" possibilities of the >> boomerang III. >> from Todd Matthews: >> "Set the optional stacking behavior so you can record seamless loops w/o volume ramps at the loop boundaries" >> Can someone explain this a bit further? What is this special behavior? I would like to record seamless >> drones using an Ebow, is this really a seamless looping? >> Xmas in approaching, The boomerang is on my wishlist as is a M9, time to make a choice, money is limited ;-) >> Ben. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:*Jeff Duke >> *To:*Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:*Monday, November 01, 2010 1:23 PM >> *Subject:*Re: Boomerang 3 >> >> Hi Mike, good to have you here for a bit! >> >> Ambient looping guitarist here. We haven't corresponded since I upgraded my original Boomerang many >> moons ago. >> >> Sjaaks questions are pretty much mine also. I am looking forward to your report eagerly! >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw>wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike > > wrote: >> > Hi loopers, >> > I'll be visiting LD for a little while to answer any Boomerang(R) III >> > questions that may arise. >> >> Hi Mike, >> I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard about the >> version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how feedback/decay >> exactly works on the Rang III. From what I understand from the manual >> and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a decay knob to >> control feedback. My question: does decay work for each track >> individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on the >> current track? The Decay value is global, and only comes into play when using Stack. Individual loops cannot be assigned a unique decay setting. >> Example: is it possible to set decay to 70% with track >> 1 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without adding new >> audio to the loop itself? This behavior is easily accomplished using the Fade function. A faster decay rate can be used, along with Stack, to create a fade out, as long as you play nothing. With Stack active, what you play will always be added to the loop. >> Or use track 2 to create a new loop at the same time with decay on 50% for example? The Fade function is also global, so you can fade all playing loops out or fade 1 to 4 loops in, but you cannot fade loops individually. Would it be of interest to anyone to fade in loop 1, fade out loop 3 and play & stack on loop 2, all at the same time? >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> Sjaak Overgaauw -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. 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PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 19:35:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84F5B3BE89; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 516061443/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.25.5/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.25.5 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAAezzkxYbRkF/2dsb2JhbAAH4V+FRQSNUYJ3 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,275,1286146800"; d="scan'208";a="516061443" Message-ID: <4CCF1677.3070603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 19:35:19 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 References: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> <4CCF1045.90308@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: <4CCF1045.90308@boomerangmusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:35:09 +0000 (UTC) hi Mike, welcome to LD. what a lot of people like to do is 1) start recording 2) fade up a note 3) end recording and go straight into overdub (while holding their note) 4) fade the note out, and listen to a seamless loop being played ...where "overdub" is the familiar term for "stack". When the guys here ask for seamless loops, that's what they're getting at 9 times out of 10. andy butler Mike wrote: > > > On 01-Nov-10 12:08 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> Before the new version 2 software there was a volume ramp at the loop >> boundaries to avoid any pops and clicks, >> now if you change the stacking behavior you can overdub a long held >> note over the loop boundary without >> hearing a volume ramp down/up. It works great for me because I'm >> bowing a string instrument and I think that >> would be the way to go with an ebow as well. > > We placed the volume ramps at loop boundaries to avoid clips and > pops, and it works well; they are on the order of 5-10ms long, and > simply go to zero then back up to full level. However if you record a > long note, ala cello, eBow or organ, you can hear the volume dip. Hence > the addition of the "special behavior." > In addition to loop boundary ramps, there are ramps at the beginning > & end of stacked data, again, to avoid pops and clicks. These include > ramps identical to those used when creating a loop, at the loop > boundary. The special behavior turns off the loop boundary ramps when > stacking. > To create a "drone" loop on the III, turn on the special behavior > then do the following. Play nothing, tap loop button 1 (for example), > activate Stack, tap loop button 1 again and you will have an empty loop > playing with Stack active. Use volume swells to smoothly fade your > note/chord in and out. Voila. > >> -Todd Matthews >> On Nov 1, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Ruelle Benoit wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> Yes it's nice to see you on the list. I'm also interested to learn >>> about the "ambient" possibilities of the >>> boomerang III. >>> from Todd Matthews: >>> "Set the optional stacking behavior so you can record seamless loops >>> w/o volume ramps at the loop boundaries" >>> Can someone explain this a bit further? What is this special >>> behavior? I would like to record seamless >>> drones using an Ebow, is this really a seamless looping? >>> Xmas in approaching, The boomerang is on my wishlist as is a M9, time >>> to make a choice, money is limited ;-) >>> Ben. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:*Jeff Duke >>> *To:*Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> >>> *Sent:*Monday, November 01, 2010 1:23 PM >>> *Subject:*Re: Boomerang 3 >>> >>> Hi Mike, good to have you here for a bit! >>> >>> Ambient looping guitarist here. We haven't corresponded since I >>> upgraded my original Boomerang many >>> moons ago. >>> >>> Sjaaks questions are pretty much mine also. I am looking forward >>> to your report eagerly! >>> >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Sjaak >>> Overgaauw>wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike >> > wrote: >>> > Hi loopers, >>> > I'll be visiting LD for a little while to answer any >>> Boomerang(R) III >>> > questions that may arise. >>> >>> Hi Mike, >>> I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard about the >>> version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how >>> feedback/decay >>> exactly works on the Rang III. From what I understand from >>> the manual >>> and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a decay >>> knob to >>> control feedback. My question: does decay work for each track >>> individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on the >>> current track? > > The Decay value is global, and only comes into play when using > Stack. Individual loops cannot be assigned a unique decay setting. > >>> Example: is it possible to set decay to 70% with track >>> 1 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without >>> adding new >>> audio to the loop itself? > > This behavior is easily accomplished using the Fade function. A > faster decay rate can be used, along with Stack, to create a fade out, > as long as you play nothing. With Stack active, what you play will > always be added to the loop. > >>> Or use track 2 to create a new loop at the same time with >>> decay on 50% for example? > > The Fade function is also global, so you can fade all playing loops > out or fade 1 to 4 loops in, but you cannot fade loops individually. > Would it be of interest to anyone to fade in loop 1, fade out loop 3 and > play & stack on loop 2, all at the same time? > >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> Sjaak Overgaauw > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 19:56:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E091F3BE8F; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UHabzfLLfFQ6rzq23xuiNIB4e9PwN5zYr0GHAYw5EMU=; b=OrLAAOLus71Tb898dnQJNgMViyRcWn41yVdMEGtaK/DUFD+b6ztYx35UU0+PSKuiSM NxsH2EnMZE9EG/R7WfCUi2SN8g9Z1nL0QhcONVFwImPSUuGAdwJlAw58qlskmjVmX2ph UAzNemi0UlZYukXuUg/W0kHrfj97ojlymu+oM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=s64MLZda8Nv3G//iGXpCbF/6ZIQ5+7qr7MwjXR1/g0UHSz3D8dZs2DuAaddlM/OG/K U6/KrvDcWKS3Tools2niPqu5lzRu2XVUI3LdZqfRnrAYqLXxja9aaJYIGpHAPiYjewOL 6BKg894SMHnxGyLM9d3YQ7ZhVnGlwmC0+Skbk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CCF1677.3070603@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> <4CCF1045.90308@boomerangmusic.com> <4CCF1677.3070603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 15:56:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d3d9c2dcab504940335ba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:56:46 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301d3d9c2dcab504940335ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes Andy, agreed. Having to record an empty loop before playing would ruin the whole thing for me. Can't you go ahead and turn on stacking, fade up note (sustainor) while hitting record, close loop while still playing note, since stack is on go to another note, etc, seamlessly? The DD 20 is good for this. The 2880 can accomplish this but a bit more clumsily. j On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:35 PM, andy butler wrote: > hi Mike, > welcome to LD. > > what a lot of people like to do is > 1) start recording > 2) fade up a note > 3) end recording and go straight into overdub (while holding their note) > 4) fade the note out, and listen to a seamless loop being played > > > ...where "overdub" is the familiar term for "stack". > > > When the guys here ask for seamless loops, that's what they're > getting at 9 times out of 10. > > > > andy butler > > > > Mike wrote: > >> >> >> On 01-Nov-10 12:08 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> >>> Before the new version 2 software there was a volume ramp at the loop >>> boundaries to avoid any pops and clicks, >>> now if you change the stacking behavior you can overdub a long held note >>> over the loop boundary without >>> hearing a volume ramp down/up. It works great for me because I'm bowing a >>> string instrument and I think that >>> would be the way to go with an ebow as well. >>> >> >> We placed the volume ramps at loop boundaries to avoid clips and pops, >> and it works well; they are on the order of 5-10ms long, and simply go to >> zero then back up to full level. However if you record a long note, ala >> cello, eBow or organ, you can hear the volume dip. Hence the addition of the >> "special behavior." >> In addition to loop boundary ramps, there are ramps at the beginning & >> end of stacked data, again, to avoid pops and clicks. These include ramps >> identical to those used when creating a loop, at the loop boundary. The >> special behavior turns off the loop boundary ramps when stacking. >> To create a "drone" loop on the III, turn on the special behavior then >> do the following. Play nothing, tap loop button 1 (for example), activate >> Stack, tap loop button 1 again and you will have an empty loop playing with >> Stack active. Use volume swells to smoothly fade your note/chord in and out. >> Voila. >> >> -Todd Matthews >>> On Nov 1, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Ruelle Benoit wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>>> Yes it's nice to see you on the list. I'm also interested to learn about >>>> the "ambient" possibilities of the >>>> boomerang III. >>>> from Todd Matthews: >>>> "Set the optional stacking behavior so you can record seamless loops w/o >>>> volume ramps at the loop boundaries" >>>> Can someone explain this a bit further? What is this special behavior? I >>>> would like to record seamless >>>> drones using an Ebow, is this really a seamless looping? >>>> Xmas in approaching, The boomerang is on my wishlist as is a M9, time to >>>> make a choice, money is limited ;-) >>>> Ben. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:*Jeff Duke >>>> *To:*Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >>>> *Sent:*Monday, November 01, 2010 1:23 PM >>>> *Subject:*Re: Boomerang 3 >>>> >>>> Hi Mike, good to have you here for a bit! >>>> >>>> Ambient looping guitarist here. We haven't corresponded since I >>>> upgraded my original Boomerang many >>>> moons ago. >>>> >>>> Sjaaks questions are pretty much mine also. I am looking forward to >>>> your report eagerly! >>>> >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw>>> tcplugin@gmail.com>>wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike >>> > wrote: >>>> > Hi loopers, >>>> > I'll be visiting LD for a little while to answer any >>>> Boomerang(R) III >>>> > questions that may arise. >>>> >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard about the >>>> version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how >>>> feedback/decay >>>> exactly works on the Rang III. From what I understand from the >>>> manual >>>> and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a decay knob >>>> to >>>> control feedback. My question: does decay work for each track >>>> individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on the >>>> current track? >>>> >>> >> The Decay value is global, and only comes into play when using Stack. >> Individual loops cannot be assigned a unique decay setting. >> >> Example: is it possible to set decay to 70% with track >>>> 1 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without >>>> adding new >>>> audio to the loop itself? >>>> >>> >> This behavior is easily accomplished using the Fade function. A faster >> decay rate can be used, along with Stack, to create a fade out, as long as >> you play nothing. With Stack active, what you play will always be added to >> the loop. >> >> Or use track 2 to create a new loop at the same time with decay on >>>> 50% for example? >>>> >>> >> The Fade function is also global, so you can fade all playing loops out >> or fade 1 to 4 loops in, but you cannot fade loops individually. Would it be >> of interest to anyone to fade in loop 1, fade out loop 3 and play & stack on >> loop 2, all at the same time? >> >> Thanks! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sjaak Overgaauw >>>> >>> >> --20cf301d3d9c2dcab504940335ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes Andy, agreed. Having to record an empty loop before playing would ruin = the whole thing for me. Can't you go ahead and turn on stacking, fade u= p note (sustainor) while hitting record, close loop while still playing not= e, since stack is on go to another note, etc, seamlessly?=A0 The DD 20 is g= ood for this. The 2880 can accomplish this but a bit more clumsily.

j

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:35 PM, and= y butler <ak= butler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Mike,
welcome to LD.

what a lot of people like to do is
1) start recording
2) fade up a note
3) end recording and go straight into overdub (while holding their note) 4) fade the note out, and listen to a seamless loop being played


...where "overdub" is the familiar term for "stack".

When the guys here ask for seamless loops, that's what they're
getting at 9 times out of 10.



andy butler



Mike wrote:


On 01-Nov-10 12:08 PM, Todd Matthews wrote:
Before the new version 2 software there was a volume ramp at the loop bound= aries to avoid any pops and clicks,
now if you change the stacking behavior you can overdub a long held note ov= er the loop boundary without
hearing a volume ramp down/up. It works great for me because I'm bowing= a string instrument and I think that
would be the way to go with an ebow as well.

=A0 =A0We placed the volume ramps at loop boundaries to avoid clips and po= ps, and it works well; they are on the order of 5-10ms long, and simply go = to zero then back up to full level. However if you record a long note, ala = cello, eBow or organ, you can hear the volume dip. Hence the addition of th= e "special behavior."
=A0 =A0In addition to loop boundary ramps, there are ramps at the beginnin= g & end of stacked data, again, to avoid pops and clicks. These include= ramps identical to those used when creating a loop, at the loop boundary. = The special behavior turns off the loop boundary ramps when stacking.
=A0 =A0To create a "drone" loop on the III, turn on the special = behavior then do the following. Play nothing, tap loop button 1 (for exampl= e), activate Stack, tap loop button 1 again and you will have an empty loop= playing with Stack active. Use volume swells to smoothly fade your note/ch= ord in and out. Voila.

-Todd Matthews
On Nov 1, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Ruelle Benoit wrote:

Hello,
Yes it's nice to see you on the list. I'm also interested to learn = about the "ambient" possibilities of the
boomerang III.
from Todd Matthews:
"Set the optional stacking behavior so you can record seamless loops w= /o volume ramps at the loop boundaries"
Can someone explain this a bit further? What is this special behavior? I wo= uld like to record seamless
drones using an Ebow, is this really a seamless looping?
Xmas in approaching, The boomerang is on my wishlist as is a M9, time to ma= ke a choice, money is limited ;-)
Ben.

=A0 =A0----- Original Message -----
=A0 =A0*From:*Jeff Duke <mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com>
=A0 =A0*To:*Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <mailto:Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com>
=A0 =A0*Sent:*Monday, November 01, 2010 1:23 PM
=A0 =A0*Subject:*Re: Boomerang 3

=A0 =A0Hi Mike, good to have you here for a bit!

=A0 =A0Ambient looping guitarist here. We haven't corresponded since I= upgraded my original Boomerang many
=A0 =A0moons ago.

=A0 =A0Sjaaks questions are pretty much mine also. I am looking forward to= your report eagerly!


=A0 =A0Jeff


=A0 =A0On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw<tcplugin@gmail.com <mailto:<= a href=3D"mailto:tcplugin@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tcplugin@gmail.com>>wrote:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<mailto:mnelson@boomerangmusic.com>> wrote:
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0> Hi loopers,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0> I'll be visiting LD for a little while to answer a= ny Boomerang(R) III
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0> questions that may arise.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Hi Mike,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I'm an ambient looper and was quite happy when I heard = about the
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0version 2 freestyle feature. I would like to know how feedb= ack/decay
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0exactly works on the Rang III. From what I understand from = the manual
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0and from Todd Matthews here on LD, is that you have a decay= knob to
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0control feedback. My question: does decay work for each tra= ck
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0individually or does it only work in overdub/stack mode on = the
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0current track?

=A0 =A0The Decay value is global, and only comes into play when using Stac= k. Individual loops cannot be assigned a unique decay setting.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Example: is it possible to set decay to 70% with track
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A01 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track without= adding new
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0audio to the loop itself?

=A0 =A0This behavior is easily accomplished using the Fade function. A fas= ter decay rate can be used, along with Stack, to create a fade out, as long= as you play nothing. With Stack active, what you play will always be added= to the loop.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Or use track 2 to create a new loop at the same time with d= ecay on 50% for example?

=A0 =A0The Fade function is also global, so you can fade all playing loops= out or fade 1 to 4 loops in, but you cannot fade loops individually. Would= it be of interest to anyone to fade in loop 1, fade out loop 3 and play &a= mp; stack on loop 2, all at the same time?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Thanks!

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Sjaak Overgaauw


--20cf301d3d9c2dcab504940335ba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 20:02:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D86B43BE91; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 20:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CCF1CDB.9010802@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 15:02:35 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang III in Italy References: <20101101165236.75F5C3BE8C@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2010 20:02:58.0196 (UTC) FILETIME=[C790AD40:01CB79FF] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: <4FWntB.A.WzF.zzxzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 20:02:59 +0000 (UTC) On 01-Nov-10 12:04 PM, Bruno E. Kleinefeld wrote: > Hi Mike > > nice to see you on the list Thanks. > I take advantage of your presence to ask you if and when the Rang3 will be distributed in Italy. > > I saw that there is a shop in Verona where one is supposed to find it, but on their website you > can find only the gigbag for the older model. > And years ago (I owned the first model)- when I called them I remember they weren't very helpful. This is disappointing as they are our only Italian dealer. I just shipped them 5 Rang(TM) IIIs and 2 Rang(TM) Chorus*Delay pedals; they should arrive by next week. Hopefully they'll be friendlier now. Either way I'm going to send them the text of your email; everybody needs a little honest feedback from time to time. > In case I could maybe point you to a better distributor (I think your product DO deserve a better > distribution) ... I'm always open to hearing about another dealer for our pedals. > Thanks a lot > > best > > b:k -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 20:49:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 254253BE8E; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 20:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5GSRrsLxXNtBEblwOwf1IMZDyUBxJjlJQvKGCYJ2mKM=; b=Wu9eLfq2vrqtsBNRm8A5hrhqMxY0YCioQffrx43YYHmcS5G/OisRUBPuqEcnBpvEgI 17gH6pq+lDjHQaPoaiugfRx22IoaY75uG4OFHl4Fm0QgowrYMX5RBwz0QRzO0xkMZKd2 DlaEf5/oyghSXd61RlXVHLwtQTCIdPmiymnFs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QV1/NHLPVAxzwS/ORwUa5y3Am83bm28ob1/2LKrENWjiWDzIqu+CAq8awRhdZPt449 4EB8aSTYpPgIQW/41+7iEB7dbaXnmBcZZJzJsSvUEF46EFkX2IdC/bBeBt+kOpMv9YS8 6VJBS7LdNJjbUd4QrCgl2/XscsbCicQIhUoHs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> <4CCF1045.90308@boomerangmusic.com> <4CCF1677.3070603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:49:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9BCNYB.A.eyG.lfyzMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 20:49:42 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Yes Andy, agreed. Having to record an empty loop before playing would rui= n > the whole thing for me. Can't you go ahead and turn on stacking, fade up > note (sustainor) while hitting record, close loop while still playing not= e, > since stack is on go to another note, etc, seamlessly?=A0 The DD 20 is go= od > for this. The 2880 can accomplish this but a bit more clumsily. Good point, besides feedback control, that's what I'm looking for. The track should go straight into overdub mode as with a normal delay pedal. It's a simple feature but essential for ambient looping. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 21:36:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 653183BE8E; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=WQLX861QCKKN3GqK411+MxQ9WgljmJy62T2NK3QRers=; b=JEjDNmNlQq/QZTO9xHsSfOiLUkDru3cQAYD69DZ2t0+uOb983Cgq3CZoyifsiKOgEh 1PakiIob3EPV7+jZ8QfKSMpbEbA9kRHzPKnwCCgyHItdzLus1ajjOopOkDYHIW3Nrih0 Cj3PrEv4aH00AEsFlRNJIFK/T66qnraE4jBbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=UCPbzsz0n1rGQTreIq0fG9bEEFhOzZd1QvtQTIeL5Wo5UChE13GlSX5R3mvTemATi2 M/9t2Ev5/d9ALxfGR9lPwL9Cy21haHX6riXaTgdWN9IynGKaRcM0AiTb38F0rECCDP7J 62DHmBkeA2Lxa5N5fpPlL7T2YKVZ8LJF6z84o= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--1044970102 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: ambient video Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 14:35:58 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:36:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--1044970102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In case anyone needs extra chill out or wants to increase their boredom quotient, I did an ambient video of the view I had while staying in NYC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFf50k4QBmo or http://vimeo.com/16398488 Basically, 40 minutes of video condensed to about 12 minutes. BTW, a brief interview segment with Brian Eno was on NPR yesterday morning (Sunday) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130918991 regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j --Apple-Mail-7--1044970102 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In case anyone needs extra = chill out or wants to increase their boredom quotient, I did an ambient = video of the view I had while staying in NYC



Basically, 40 minutes of video condensed to about 12 = minutes.
BTW, a brief = interview segment with Brian Eno was on NPR yesterday morning = (Sunday)



regards


BobC


= --Apple-Mail-7--1044970102-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 21:47:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5B8D3BE91; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4qFRzb7pKxLLkGVtT6J/Lig5vSGrqwXTwX+dVBPyXm8=; b=Xt7UyuRwy/8QETGY08EWIDxSZyT0xAVOY6FMJwQQ5Rc4cqVQr/P51l29lTQifr0W1L EL8tTiu8It5BjtbWKhmkSOwGAuLYw+R4qoOfWqHgZLkdQcxR/LnhElpGCCNxSu9RLT3Q MR6vA9r9LtSLq63AZJE4gYiY/9U9JMbTTkZwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GEIidNAez6MMT2NVsjfyaxrJlxeZ49/PcncpnZi4Bzry/LsZfMCNgpAWtodch8/i+X S3+w75FZIG3s/i8LbsN+3BH4PbMvBDnXtxu5QrPKLU0L60+nmxdVTZTiuDKQZJmVsTgb bOVoe8Rj22Ec2DYz7Ne09r//ZETMILkjUuRhU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:46:59 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: OT: The "Septar" Board: Polyphonic Audio Break-Out Kits for Electric Guitar From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c59a4770fd10049404bf85 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:47:02 +0000 (UTC) --001636c59a4770fd10049404bf85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not totally off topic (see granular "looper" in the video below). If you're interested in our kits, let me know off list. Excuse the rich text. I thought you'd like to see what I'm blithering about. :-) The "Septar" board functions as a break out box for polyphonic audio pick-up systems for electric guitar (including those designed solely for MIDI application) to allow audio for each string. The following prototype has been developed with a newly designed circuit to improve audio output of piezo-based pickup systems (notably, the Hexpander by Graphtech Guitar Labs). *The Kits* The kits will be made available for purchase as a DIY kit, without housing, at a very affordable price. You can source housing on Ebay. Polyphonic audio software is under development in PureData and will be made available for free. *The Software* Pd2Live The software is a work in progress. Any suggestions or contributions welcome. Drop me an email at *info* at *rickygraham* dot *net*. *Technical Specification by John Harding (j.harding at ulster.ac.uk)* The circuit features 7 independant channels, each channel consists of an independant circuit, based on vintage vaccuum tube topology, which provides impedance matching by employing low noise and spectrally accurate Junction Field Effect Transistors (JFet's). JFets are well renowned in audiophile circles for their sonic qualities, low noise and graceful overload characteristics, similar in many respects to the more well known vaccuum tubes. JFets provide solid bass reproduction whilst maintaining extremely high resolution, bringing out more details, sounding cleaner, clearer, and more natural than the best bipolar transistors, and even the best Telefunken tubes. Passive High Pass filtering and ac coupling is present and individual to each channel and the JFets are Biased as Class A devices to achieve maximum performance figures. It produces high impedance input of 2MegOhm allowing us to boost even the weakest signal. The result is a very clean, no gain, low noise output, with very low output impedance, essentially maintaining the low frequency content of Piezo Pickups, even when driving the signal over long cable lengths. Each of the seven channels achieves a flat frequency response (+/-0.05dB) from 10Hz to 20kHz and minimal phase shift over approximately 10Hz to 30kHz. Since the entire circuit draws approx. 7 mA of current it can easily run on a single battery. *Therefore you can expect two things: long battery life, and very low noise.* *Interested?* Price will vary with user specification. If you are interested in our proposed polyphonic audio break out kits, please send your name and email address to: info at rickygraham dot net and we will add you to our mailing list. You will receive notification when the kits become available. http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board --001636c59a4770fd10049404bf85 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not totally off topic (see gr= anular "looper" in the video below). If you're interested in = our kits, let me know off list. Excuse the rich text. I thought you'd l= ike to see what I'm blithering about. :-)

3D""

The "Septar" board functions as a break out box for polyphonic audio= =20 pick-up systems for electric guitar (including those designed solely for MIDI application) to allow audio for each string. The following=20 prototype has been developed with a newly designed circuit to improve=20 audio output of piezo-based pickup systems (notably, the Hexpander by=20 Graphtech Guitar Labs).


The Kits

The kits will be made available for purchase as a DIY kit, without housing, at a very affordable price. You can source housing on Ebay. Polyphonic=20 audio software is under development in PureData and will be made=20 available for free.


The Software

Pd2Live

The software is a work in progres= s. Any suggestions or contributions welcome. Drop me an email at in= fo at rickygraham dot net.


Technical Specification by John Harding (j.harding at ulster.ac.uk)

The circuit features 7 independant channels, each channel consists of an=20 independant circuit, based on vintage vaccuum tube topology, which=20 provides impedance matching by employing low noise and spectrally=20 accurate Junction Field Effect Transistors (JFet's). JFets are well=20 renowned in audiophile circles for their sonic qualities, low noise and=20 graceful overload characteristics, similar in many respects to the more=20 well known vaccuum tubes. JFets provide solid bass reproduction whilst=20 maintaining extremely high resolution, bringing out more details,=20 sounding cleaner, clearer, and more natural than the best bipolar=20 transistors, and even the best Telefunken tubes. Passive High Pass=20 filtering and ac coupling is present and individual to each channel and=20 the JFets are Biased as Class A devices to achieve maximum performance=20 figures.

It produces high impedance input of 2MegOhm allowing us=20 to boost even the weakest signal. The result is a very clean, no gain,=20 low noise output, with very low output impedance, essentially=20 maintaining the low frequency content of Piezo Pickups, even when=20 driving the signal over long cable lengths. Each of the seven channels=20 achieves a flat frequency response (+/-0.05dB) from 10Hz to 20kHz and=20 minimal phase shift over approximately 10Hz to 30kHz.

Since the enti= re circuit draws approx. 7 mA of current it can easily run on a single batt= ery. Therefore you can expect two things: long battery life, and ve= ry low noise.


Interested?

Price will vary with user specification. If you are interested in our=20 proposed polyphonic audio break out kits, please send your name and=20 email address to: info at rickygraham dot net and we will add you to our mailing list. You will receive notification when the kits become=20 available.

http://rickygrah= am.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board
--001636c59a4770fd10049404bf85-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 21:50:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E02263BE95; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o5s3vlHMH0pxo8n0nJ/9mLifi+bFVs+xlIX5T66HZ/I=; b=wAsWhqL7/7OWVYrs5/HuqKLIOQPiGs36JbcAbzZqQwEnN9vMqxhdl8oMPC1bkPZkFi cGkME6HDZBUoxkAhBXVrL9HJRVUvrJTOSr2IVXqfQXxh0jr737Lx/ewusNnVj6rtz1bH 7vPwzUYdOXnDlHnKdMDBcK+zi90jWU5/FVo3k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZPvZef7sU9V0X40ORDAgW1DG8fnCxN+QDkNTELiwFa3fs8sOfBWUYgR2y6aQOcpVMJ JMriS8tzRRTRwP+o0tMdV4BXUe3wmy+AckQqBGnkP5EkF9tnYAdXUv8Y2IfgJVoGeKCT pLcLIroE+RsretngE1ByVaFiAZ2I5YFpFtFuE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stringport PC, (was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED) From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a75e00f082049404cc6e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:31 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a75e00f082049404cc6e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gareth, if you're interested in the stringport, you may be interested in this: http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Yes, the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jac= k > converter into a large(ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce my gear > footprint. > I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though, (can't find them o= n > their website) > > Have fun and report back Ted > > Gareth > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:12:58 -0400 > Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!! > From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > I'm pretty sure it's pc-compatible; the sw is in Max, the connection is > usb. it would be too weird for it not to be > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > > Gareth, > > I don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be, I don't know). > > You should read up on that. > > I received mine about a week ago but have been too busy with work and > family to delve into it much. > > I need fewer distraction right now. > > I'll post about it when I can. > > Best, > > Ted > > > On Oct 30, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > > Have you ordered the stringport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as > I'm thinking of using it on a PC. > > Peace > > Gareth > > > Thanks for keep us in the loop. > > I'll be posting soon about my adventures with the StringPort. > > Ciao! > > Ted > > > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.warrensirota.com > Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota > --001636c5a75e00f082049404cc6e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gareth, if you're interested in the stringport, you may be interested i= n this: http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Gareth Whittock= <buddhama= chine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Yes, the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jack c= onverter into a large(ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce my gear footpr= int.
I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though, (can'= ;t find them on their website)

Have fun and report back Ted

Gareth

Date: Sat, 30 Oct= 2010 13:12:58 -0400
Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!!
From: wsirota@wsdesigns.= com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I'm pretty sure it'= ;s pc-compatible; the sw is in Max, the connection is usb. it would be too = weird for it not to be

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillia= n@charter.net> wrote:
Gareth,

I don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be, I don'= ;t know).

You should read up on that.

I received mine about a week ago but have been too busy with work and famil= y to delve into it much.

I need fewer distraction right now.

I'll post about it when I can.

Best,

Ted


On Oct 30, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:

Have you ordered the stringport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as= I'm thinking of using it on a PC.

Peace

Gareth


Thanks for keep us in the loop.

I'll be posting soon about my adventures with the StringPort.

Ciao!

Ted





--
Warren
<= a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrens= irota.com
Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warr= ensirota

--001636c5a75e00f082049404cc6e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 22:36:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EF313BE8E; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 22:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WaHTMqfN6ZyjvV+E9SM0Qn571HK1PyCOjylK7FVdTcs=; b=a4b5T+xCeV8rLYEsT8i/ccnJBG+eIxKqqDryrCgQaxzpSOqtC8THD6GriTigttNP+n 5Islf9gVv1+8YuCi+nd6tdzKE17xbUl9/VPCf7XBusXTnLpe3VGoMwZ4T5u65TrVZxRZ 194iJGNdjdY16PeMbLrl6JlBHcIJAR+z8QqDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rICiLWLII8jpThxkAdFyGwrRCRL3K6v5xAxYFJ4tlfbhFT0KzSfR0JcM0XbRpD/VEo p0wRDX7NRVxaBveYP6wrqWgt5EiuPYsRlfyqTZqNnov2jNmEo/oyjvG/AdMFVfD3y1+c oYKC/yz8FetycOQPFArV4bPjOxPDm3Aj4UsBI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20100830120724.C793A24833@ns3.tnt21.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 22:35:59 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: hex pickup link? From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a91fb4a7d40494056e64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 22:36:01 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a91fb4a7d40494056e64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In case you're still interested in hex/poly pickup systems for electric guitar: http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:24 PM, doc rossi wrote: > I do believe that's the one - Thanks a lot! > > On Aug 30, 2010, at 2:07 PM, paul wrote: > > Ah, then you're probably looking for the RMC pickups, which is what most > acoustics are using. http://www.rmcpickup.com/acousticgold.html > > Paul > www.dulcify.ca > > > > > > At 11:35 PM 8/29/2010, you wrote: > > Interesting stuff, but that's not the one. It was primarily for acoustic > instruments. Thanks > > On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > > Try Graphtech Guitar Labs > > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM, doc rossi wrote: > Hello, > > I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting hex piezo > pickups for guitars, mandos, etc. Was it here? I can't find it... > > Thanks, > > Doc > > > --001636c5a91fb4a7d40494056e64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In case you're still interested in hex/poly pickup systems for electric= guitar: http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:24 PM, doc rossi <docittern@gmail.com= > wrote:
I do believe that's the one - Tha= nks a lot!

On Aug 30, 2= 010, at 2:07 PM, paul wrote:

Ah, then you're probably looking for the RMC pickups, which is what mos= t acoustics are using. http://www.rmcpickup.com/acousticgold.html

Paul
www.dulcify.ca





At 11:35 PM 8/29/2010, you wrote:
Interesting stuff, but that's not the one.=A0 It was primarily for acoustic instruments.=A0 Thanks

On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Ricky Graham wrote:

Try Graphtech Guitar Labs

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM, doc rossi <docittern@gmai= l.com> wrote:
Hello,

I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting = hex piezo pickups for guitars, mandos, etc.=A0 Was it here? I can't find it...

Thanks,

Doc<= br>


--001636c5a91fb4a7d40494056e64-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 22:46:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 365773BE91; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 22:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GMXXpA57980UJaAmWC0rpcwootyU+jOh0e8V3woF8FA=; b=AWeehomIT2YoyZ6lqB+AMtRyAoEPwvg6tdJALRVFYz1MwZY/hz8hYYde1zXCeKxKW0 vgbqQyl604XScORKS0ZP4f31+HSShNRCtUTslJI9jU/7KapK6k/zdse7UNlXbpbkAUnM O49DucxxtXGeUlcZl9gwMHMHq8ZgSJKSIWgK4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lAcn8kzaUsazYhdAFXSo8Fc8CbG9zbNyJrdZwdPOn+Qjj7WvnyTID1Qdd3ZV49m8eU KuB83SwOEbXanNGIr1NCk2R8dYMG36AEE+LWe4Vr4qBUBv2C7eObCvRKyjYPTb0sVClL lL2rqhADr1cLdeyUha9sh2OLodqgMPDJkI/CQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CCF1045.90308@boomerangmusic.com> References: <4CCE4627.6030503@boomerangmusic.com> <4CCF1045.90308@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:46:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 22:46:11 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Mike wrote: > The Decay value is global, and only comes into play when using Stack. > Individual loops cannot be assigned a unique decay setting. > >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Example: is it possible to set decay to 70% with track >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01 in play mode causing a slow fade out of the track with= out adding >>> new =A0audio to the loop itself? > > This behavior is easily accomplished using the Fade function. A > faster decay rate can be used, along with Stack, to create a fade out, as > long as you play nothing. With Stack active, what you play will always be > added to the loop. Thanks for your reply Mike, much appreciated! It's not the answer I would like to hear but at it's clear now :) Using fade out as a workaround for feedback could work when you're ending a song go from 100% volume to 0%. If I understand it right, you can't stop a fade out somewhere in between. In comparison with feedback on a delay pedal, you can turn it up to 100% any time you want, it's much more flexible. Anyway, imo a slow fade out is a bit longer than the current 43 seconds of the Rang. I often use fade outs of 2-3 minutes long, it can create real magic when doing ambient soundscapes live on stage. So I could live with a global fade out function but the 43 seconds is too short. It's also a matter of getting used to the Rang III, like with any looper. > The Fade function is also global, so you can fade all playing loops > out or fade 1 to 4 loops in, but you cannot fade loops individually. Woul= d > it be of interest to anyone to fade in loop 1, fade out loop 3 and play & > stack on loop 2, all at the same time? I personally never use fade ins, only fade outs. Thanks for your answer. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 1 23:28:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 548B83BE91; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=6iCheD8lMu0Gz7g+p6OLrwyA14hBCZmp2ToMaoFdwnk=; b=amgpalb8GqkJmp8eyuhIA/JALTa1uqqXO7PHL18CLhzYeIHW5ct6ssgvLVTkZPSpuO DecZQ+MM468g+FMNEiwNmK/id/Ywq/z07Z5zTwzBUb9J8uRdP+aeqT0KOnKKbe1BDFf+ d+UpYT60h2S/5MLGHrXrL1CnukE9JXONnDZHM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=m/S6sDs3IPesTKh2g2U36R8NXpAVoMkBQWnw/HytwzZOjzjxsAitCep2nTv1bNKeLq CdlnW9RVge+n+POtC6oGyF96bnNLENWjWSAOZoX1bPVh7dcdN45Sm3h2j3o6ljvxX+Z9 n0Vy7u6eMvcT8Uueb+wdfjqdue5AX3dbcVjEw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <0AD1E31E-9632-4330-B31C-A25DB36669FB@zoekeating.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> <0AD1E31E-9632-4330-B31C-A25DB36669FB@zoekeating.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 00:28:06 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Iih_ykC7D5OEX7CM0kSJ2zQNPp0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303bfef03c10e70494062a2f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:28:27 +0000 (UTC) --20cf303bfef03c10e70494062a2f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 BTW Zoe, I made a Yahoo groups list for SoftStep.. at least till they get a forum up and running.. right now its just me talking to myself there, but Ive invited the customer service lady at Keith Mc to join... Post message:softstep@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: softstep-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: softstep-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com love Mark On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > I want to use the softstep to just send PC and note messages on various > channels, spread across 4 different banks (or "scenes" in softstep-speak). > > I must be a doof because I'm finding this surprisingly hard to achieve. I > have time to take another stab at it today. > > But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know of...this seems a good > place to compare notes. > > > On Nov 1, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > I have one on order. Just reading specs, I'll probably > set it up much like the FCB, each switch sends note on/off > 0-9 in bank 1, 10-19 in bank 2, etc. > > I'm not sure how useful the pressure sensitivity will be. > > The obvious candidates are the output level, feedback, and pan > controls but you usually want those to be smooth and it sounds > like that might be difficult. If we have to we could implement > some kind of controller smoothing with scripts. > > Rate and pitch shift amount are other possibilities. Setting > parameters like the number of subcycles or Quantize Mode could > also be done but for those I think it's easier to cycle through > a set of values just by pressing a switch several times rather > than trying to dial one in with pressure. > > We'll see... > > Jeff > > *From:* Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com > ] > *Sent:* Monday, November 01, 2010 6:40 AM > *To:* Loopers Delight > *Subject:* softstep and mobius users > > hey gang, > if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have tons of > questions and there arent any forums that i know of yet > plus we can start helping future users here as well > lets hook up! > cheers > Luis > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf303bfef03c10e70494062a2f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BTW Zoe,

I made a Yahoo groups list for SoftStep.. at le= ast till they get a forum up and running.. right now its just me talking to= myself there, but Ive invited the customer service lady at Keith Mc to joi= n...



On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
I want to use the softstep to just send= PC and note messages on various channels, spread across 4 different banks = (or "scenes" in softstep-speak).

I must be a d= oof because I'm finding this surprisingly hard to achieve. I have time = to take another stab at it today.=A0

But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know of.= ..this seems a good place to compare notes.


On Nov 1, 2010, at 9:4= 1 AM, Jeff Larson wrote:

I have one on order.=A0 Just reading specs, I'll probably
set it up much like the FCB, each switch sends note on/off
0-9 in bank 1, 10-19 in bank 2, etc.
=A0
I'm not sure how useful the pressure sensitivity will be.=
=A0
The obvious candidates are the output level, feedback, and pan
controls but you usually want those to be smooth and it sounds
like that might be difficult.=A0 If we have to we could implement
some kind of controller smoothing with scripts.=A0
=A0
Rate and pitch shift amount are other possibilities.=A0 Setting
parameters like the number of subcycles or Quantize Mode could
also be done but for those I think it's easier to cycle through<= /span>
a set of values just by pressing a switch several times rather
than trying to dial one in with pressure.
=A0
We'll see...
=A0
Jeff
=A0
<= span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif">From:=A0Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo= @googlemail.com]=A0
Sent:=A0Monday, November 01, 2010 6:40 AM
To:= =A0Loopers Delight
Subject:=A0softstep = and mobius users
=A0
hey gang,
if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i ha= ve tons of questions and there arent any forums that i know of yet
plus we can start helping future users here as well
lets hook up!
che= ers
Luis




--
mark francombe<= br> www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfra= ncombe
http://vimeo.com/user8250= 94
http://www.looop.no
--20cf303bfef03c10e70494062a2f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 01:19:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 554063BE91; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4L97abxo/guixYiqMykLtv1kgtQ7Emwj8dC+R3lQE38=; b=TxC27UwtorsL9EqiU7RPN4k6AAVM6dy0H+kAX1emOJoi4rVTBbwUDXjObBeWpctK0B lScAQ5fqesCT47UGU3XuFPDtx2V7fyAegLBtBdcX2ye661r1fRu0h/fajlK7pE7TxZ0W qwDn/T6TWEgnihgCvXJCFtRjq8GYvnt4wB7zA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gn2RzzPpXDgMgsRu1o33xkXxkLOCTN129l3Zv46v9xhv4L+q6IGbVEx6HZ9qcLE1KB vKBuQ2nbjxPWoDxQNX4s8HfvKJlLyEG5TTvfE4szZvnF+IREUp+0HFtTz2HEDUAtn+To zn2+Psp/qnJY0uViprD4Za5h/nAat71YsTPNc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:19:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: ambient video From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba476adff58fcc049407b5ce Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:19:06 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba476adff58fcc049407b5ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 excellent RP! Thanks! j On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:35 PM, RP Collier wrote: > In case anyone needs extra chill out or wants to increase their boredom > quotient, I did an ambient video of the view I had while staying in NYC > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFf50k4QBmo > > or http://vimeo.com/16398488 > > Basically, 40 minutes of video condensed to about 12 minutes. > > > > BTW, a brief interview segment with Brian Eno was on NPR yesterday morning > (Sunday) > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130918991 > > > > regards > > > BobC > > > http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j > --90e6ba476adff58fcc049407b5ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable excellent RP! Thanks!

j

On Mon, No= v 1, 2010 at 5:35 PM, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrote:
In case anyone needs extra chill out = or wants to increase their boredom quotient, I did an ambient video of the = view I had while staying in NYC



Basically, 40 minutes of video condensed to about 12 min= utes.



BTW, a brief interview segment with Brian Eno was on NPR yest= erday morning (Sunday)



<= div>
= regards

BobC
<= div>
=

--90e6ba476adff58fcc049407b5ce-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 01:29:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DD773BE93; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:29:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CCF6979.9000401@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:29:29 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2010 01:29:51.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[71B69820:01CB7A2D] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:29:53 +0000 (UTC) > I was hoping the Rang III would be the 1st compact stereo looper with > 3 unsynced tracks with feedback control, reverse, half speed and good > audio specs and headroom, yes please. Or otherwise Boss should create > the Delay DD-200 Super Delay with 3 extended DD-20's on board, with > reverse and halfspeed and 40 seconds of stereo looping per delay. That > would be just perfect for ambient. The Rang(TM) III is the looper you imagine in all respects but one. It's small (6" x 9"), records in true stereo, has good headroom, has great audio specs and can record & play 3 (or four) unsynced loops. Each loop can play normally, reversed and/or an octave down (half speed) independently of the others. You can also record a loop with Octave active, then turn it off so the loop plays twice as fast and an octave higher. The Decay can be set to a different rate while stacking on the different loops, but a unique decay rate cannot be assigned to each loop. 6 out of 7 ain't bad. Rang(TM) III audio specs Noise Floor: -104dB Sample Rate: 48, 24 or 12 KHz Bit Rate: 20 bit samples with NO compression scheme * The bit rate of the through signal is 24. > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 01:33:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B2CA3BE93; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:32:39 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2010 01:33:02.0437 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3D00950:01CB7A2D] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:33:03 +0000 (UTC) On 31-Oct-10 3:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from using delays for my looping and have > never been really comfortable with "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for me. Please explain "stiff" for me, Jeff. Thanks. -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 01:49:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF7353BE8F; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CCF6DE9.7060907@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:48:25 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2010 01:48:48.0149 (UTC) FILETIME=[17803C50:01CB7A30] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: <6Der9B.A.blE.M42zMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:49:00 +0000 (UTC) > Can it still do the reverse thing that I used to love on the old one? Through input mute I think it was called. The Rang(TM) III can play loops in reverse, but I think you're talking about the reverse lead capability. The III has a built in Reverse Solo effect. Our E-155 Chorus*Delay pedal has a reverse delay feature and the ability to mix the dry and reverse delay any way you want. -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 02:56:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0B8B3BE93; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 02:56:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MOgxobEk2fntRR6EfNSclIz4dak1IkZz3d+6LfYT4KU=; b=V7OhnDq+qAhnXiN4lqXe34Z/+vXGNijZ/7txapPjWdTZ4uG55vNw9aec4quitdIncm 7kSXbkMDTJCPHtjGpfq9ySs4BFMj7BkHWqGHR3ClvKjkVDQwvX0XMZQVACKNdjOek23C jUx11WYayinSWo/6zZLrC3qynT3LbblL+STzM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=s+NzSAGKJnZgWx9TVAe57vP/IloRyp3R/oEEHqmqBbj5DHVex/Q9IyItxfMTfwZojb dE61wvSpUHKe+WvkL8OQiTpv31pDuf2IwNGJagxs/lKdLQUb78QJiPhlEf87232V/Hmq nnKapQmRiOJTrRxaJdYYQ1DJz2q2RMR1NECbI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 22:56:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8ee6cff49d0494091215 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 02:56:40 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8ee6cff49d0494091215 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I have read what I wrote now). When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will focus on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + can't. I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by tapping the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording and set it on the fly. I do it both ways. With it off I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the on button to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at whatever I have set it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter with one tap before I reach the max that is set or twice to set a longer loop (this is hard to explain but easy to do). This makes it very easy to zero in or correct the loop length in an improv situation. Re triggering the loop length is very important to me. Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a riff or phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite repeats. Press the effect off button and play over the top. Backing off a bit on the fb knob so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset and go to the next slot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length already set and ready to tweak the same way. In the meantime loop 1 is still fading out at whatever I have left it set at. And so on through the 5 preset locations.The caveat is that after more than one advance it cuts off the first one and you can't go back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not really an issue for me. I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth drones always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me being an all improv hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop fading out while bringing in another is free and not stiff. I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both worlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't been made that can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase samplers can do that (so far). Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a looped phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough to have some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. No way to adjust the length/feedback on the fly. I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be the perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this thread about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still need a good phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff. all the best, j On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike wrote: > > On 31-Oct-10 3:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from >> using delays for my looping and have >> never been really comfortable with "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is >> of course. Just too stiff for me. >> > > Please explain "stiff" for me, Jeff. Thanks. > > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > --90e6ba6e8ee6cff49d0494091215 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I h= ave read what I wrote now).

When using a long delay for looping suc= h as the Boss DD 20.... I will focus on what it can do that a phrase sample= r such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + can't.

I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by tappin= g the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording=A0 and set it o= n the fly. I do it both ways.

With it off=A0 I can tap the loop leng= th up to 23 sec then press the on button to begin playing/recording. Feedba= ck is already on at whatever I have set it for. I can re tap the loop lengt= h shorter with one tap before I reach the max that is set or twice to set a= longer loop (this is hard to explain but easy to do). This makes it very e= asy to zero in or correct the loop length in an improv situation. Re trigge= ring the loop length is very important to me.

Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a riff= or phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite repeats. Pre= ss the effect off button and play over the top. Backing off a bit on the fb= knob so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset and go to the nex= t slot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length already set and ready = to tweak the same way. In the meantime loop 1 is still fading out at whatev= er I have left it set at. And so on through the 5 preset locations.The cave= at is that after more than one advance it cuts off the first one and you ca= n't go back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not really an issue for m= e.

I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth drones= always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me being an all impr= ov hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop fading out while bringing= in another is free and not stiff.

I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both w= orlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't been mad= e that can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase samplers can do= that (so far).

Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a lo= oped phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough t= o have some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. No way to adjust= the length/feedback on the fly.

=A0I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be t= he perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this thread = about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still need a good p= hrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff.




all the best,

j



On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com> wrote:

On 31-Oct-10 3:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:
Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from us= ing delays for my looping and have
never been really comfortable with "phrase samplers" which the Bo= omer is of course. Just too stiff for me.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Please explain "stiff" for me, Jeff. Thanks.

--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
=A0Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

----------

1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax

http://www.boom= erangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX =A076209
hardesty@minds= pring.com
940-382-3253

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX =A076099-3788

--90e6ba6e8ee6cff49d0494091215-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 03:04:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25A7E3BE8F; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 03:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=j1T2vJxkNwh/yvG/+BE3tjdspUiiCt20ItyQYwfOvx8=; b=H6+2TSy4VdlxRG6Wdt3ypg+T4f9RhCR3RC/7X2oEQx/NzZPdTSV60ieRUNx1L0lPUm Q3fW+b0tiy+9aAABmXNesvL8vvozGZA2irjBl81Z0/ZwHgzgWrKa4S0oqOzS/SxLO2z9 jxSxOdJnC/mY2Ndkup5GVEFCZIwvgAFNuyiRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ul6NkcuQl+kgvRddGiZNMjNSqGKXp6TsQc4MI+GAAg3/i3SDmF3HEOvkui2BoyKhzS HLNmfIGdycDF9wCSqyc+qgAo/owktU00kkyH7du2gQnc591wAqlOXyNvpHMhmjqUy2/V pfGTooyGVxkLHdmmMM8tzTbdiVfgAf0GmcilU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CCF6DE9.7060907@boomerangmusic.com> References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6DE9.7060907@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:04:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3043488e27ecf50494092e59 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 03:04:18 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3043488e27ecf50494092e59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yep, that's it, after the "plus" upgrade fixed the click I used that quite often in the old days placing it before my Jamman in delay mode and Digitech Time Machines for loopers. Loved that effect! j On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Mike wrote: > > Can it still do the reverse thing that I used to love on the old one? >> Through input mute I think it was called. >> > > The Rang(TM) III can play loops in reverse, but I think you're > talking about the reverse lead capability. The III has a built in Reverse > Solo effect. > Our E-155 Chorus*Delay pedal has a reverse delay feature and the > ability to mix the dry and reverse delay any way you want. > > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > --20cf3043488e27ecf50494092e59 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yep, that's it, after the "plus" upgrade fixed the click I us= ed that quite often in the old days placing it before my Jamman in delay mo= de and Digitech Time Machines for loopers. Loved that effect!

j

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Mike <mnelson@boomer= angmusic.com> wrote:

Can it still do the reverse thing that I used to love on the old one? Throu= gh input mute I think it was called.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0The Rang(TM) III can play loops in reverse, but I think you= 're talking about the reverse lead capability. The III has a built in R= everse Solo effect.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Our E-155 Chorus*Delay pedal has a reverse delay feature an= d the ability to mix the dry and reverse delay any way you want.

--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
=A0Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

----------

1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax

http://www.boom= erangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX =A076209
hardesty@minds= pring.com
940-382-3253

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX =A076099-3788

--20cf3043488e27ecf50494092e59-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 03:23:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 894673BE92; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 03:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RbJtGPhZIDlCB+baHqIgluqmW4LMjCKeibEQoMufbI03bWTftwiv960kYR+YI6El; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:23:09 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-923454294==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a322311f5a7426a1f22571c76ea212e6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 03:23:24 +0000 (UTC) --============_-923454294==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Jeff, I completely understand what you're looking for, and so I have been following this thread with some interest. I also use a 2880 (as well as a repeater), and I guess I don't quite understand the headroom comment.. As long as you don't clip the signal going in, you shouldn't have any headroom issues, and by using the realtime feedback sliders, you can actually "duck" an offensively clipped part of a loop. How are your headroom problems manifest? -Chuck >ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. >(I have read what I wrote now). > >When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I >will focus on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the >2880/M9 and Boomer + can't. > >I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by >tapping the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording >and set it on the fly. I do it both ways. > >With it off I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the >on button to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at >whatever I have set it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter >with one tap before I reach the max that is set or twice to set a >longer loop (this is hard to explain but easy to do). This makes it >very easy to zero in or correct the loop length in an improv >situation. Re triggering the loop length is very important to me. > >Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a >riff or phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite >repeats. Press the effect off button and play over the top. Backing >off a bit on the fb knob so it begins to fade I can press the >advance preset and go to the next slot with it's own FB, loop level, >loop length already set and ready to tweak the same way. In the >meantime loop 1 is still fading out at whatever I have left it set >at. And so on through the 5 preset locations.The caveat is that >after more than one advance it cuts off the first one and you can't >go back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not really an issue for me. > >I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth >drones always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me >being an all improv hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop >fading out while bringing in another is free and not stiff. > >I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of >both worlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't >been made that can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase >samplers can do that (so far). > >Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a >looped phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky >enough to have some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. >No way to adjust the length/feedback on the fly. > > I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be >the perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this >thread about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still >need a good phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff. > > > > >all the best, > >j > > >On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike ><mnelson@boomerangmusic.com> >wrote: > > >On 31-Oct-10 3:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come >from using delays for my looping and have >never been really comfortable with "phrase samplers" which the >Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for me. > > > Please explain "stiff" for me, Jeff. Thanks. > >-- > >Mike Nelson >Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. >General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > >---------- > >"Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > >---------- > >1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > >http://www.boomerangmusic.com > >Contact for repairs: >Lee Hardesty >1516 Victoria Drive >Denton, TX 76209 >hardesty@mindspring.com >940-382-3253 > >Billing Address: >Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >PO Box 3788 >Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-923454294==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Boomerang 3
Jeff,
  I completely understand what you're looking for, and so I have been following this thread with some interest.  I also use a 2880 (as well as a repeater), and I guess I don't quite understand the headroom comment.. As long as you don't clip the signal going in, you shouldn't have any headroom issues, and by using the realtime feedback sliders, you can actually "duck" an offensively clipped part of a loop.
How are your headroom problems manifest?

-Chuck


ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I have read what I wrote now).

When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will focus on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + can't.

I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by tapping the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording  and set it on the fly. I do it both ways.

With it off  I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the on button to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at whatever I have set it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter with one tap before I reach the max that is set or twice to set a longer loop (this is hard to explain but easy to do). This makes it very easy to zero in or correct the loop length in an improv situation. Re triggering the loop length is very important to me.

Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a riff or phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite repeats. Press the effect off button and play over the top. Backing off a bit on the fb knob so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset and go to the next slot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length already set and ready to tweak the same way. In the meantime loop 1 is still fading out at whatever I have left it set at. And so on through the 5 preset locations.The caveat is that after more than one advance it cuts off the first one and you can't go back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not really an issue for me.

I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth drones always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me being an all improv hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop fading out while bringing in another is free and not stiff.

I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both worlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't been made that can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase samplers can do that (so far).

Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a looped phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough to have some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. No way to adjust the length/feedback on the fly.

 I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be the perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this thread about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still need a good phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff.




all the best,

j

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com> wrote:

On 31-Oct-10 3:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:
Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from using delays for my looping and have
never been really comfortable with "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for me.

       Please explain "stiff" for me, Jeff. Thanks.

--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
 Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

----------

1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax

http://www.boomerangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX  76209
hardesty@mindspring.com
940-382-3253

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX  76099-3788


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
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--0015174bdb8c100ad7049409cdb9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 03:50:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A16F03BE91; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 03:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HzwXoTGOkBSUFL7q1RL4qkj3odwVQfZUm83f7VMpx/E=; b=D+pMoanLhPSFJHyDFhNikBhCtfBnWqS56qUI6DEGlmxFrLcqljajYCBrX+4W8i7/px gmJHR5M6U0pKbyVrte7Br9fw/poPyjgqWZxIXUnpyWucW3DebDFdR5VlGVQKnxV/bodk nUlzSK8BLhxMfBl8MytpkMMD2UUzyI9Y6qmr4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nbK4X96NJkSLUeN4p6G7pRT36DxMW2ZoFtFWsrAJ0dAPqgPVP+RtWZoNMqaAGT1/+T a1mRyHpj1Zez63fiTyr8+wnRu27VxyS/R7p/tVzt9x0rh0+26owwyckodxaO//6z4Tao VVIs/0uPuAe1Ow3wVd8IbCr21kcPEKs/eY9Lg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:50:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d3a4c14e609049409d5ae Resent-Message-ID: <64URaB.A.thG.iq4zMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 03:50:58 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301d3a4c14e609049409d5ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I always leave the input knobs about 1/4. I know this is relative, I can turn down the fx before it but I get about the same results in range. The difference between where I would normally play at and a boosted signal to where a "lead" is, will clip it quickly. It seems about the same as my Vortex units maybe more, not much range between good signal and clip. I have read others comments from time to time on this but it is an issue for me. This is input clipping I am talking about. My DD 20 and M9 never have this issue, I can feed them relatively big spikes without a clipping problem. I have tried many ways to compensate for this. Reducing my output at all stages, etc. I lose dynamics or notice hiss if I get too fussy with it. If you have any ideas I am all ears Chuck! thanks, J On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Jeff, > I completely understand what you're looking for, and so I have been > following this thread with some interest. I also use a 2880 (as well as a > repeater), and I guess I don't quite understand the headroom comment.. As > long as you don't clip the signal going in, you shouldn't have any headroom > issues, and by using the realtime feedback sliders, you can actually "duck" > an offensively clipped part of a loop. > How are your headroom problems manifest? > > -Chuck > > > ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I have > read what I wrote now). > > When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will focus > on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + > can't. > > I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by tapping > the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording and set it on the > fly. I do it both ways. > > With it off I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the on > button to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at whatever I have > set it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter with one tap before I reach > the max that is set or twice to set a longer loop (this is hard to explain > but easy to do). This makes it very easy to zero in or correct the loop > length in an improv situation. Re triggering the loop length is very > important to me. > > Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a riff or > phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite repeats. Press > the effect off button and play over the top. Backing off a bit on the fb > knob so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset and go to the next > slot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length already set and ready to > tweak the same way. In the meantime loop 1 is still fading out at whatever I > have left it set at. And so on through the 5 preset locations.The caveat is > that after more than one advance it cuts off the first one and you can't go > back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not really an issue for me. > > I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth drones > always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me being an all improv > hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop fading out while bringing in > another is free and not stiff. > > I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both > worlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't been made that > can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase samplers can do that > (so far). > > Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a looped > phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough to have > some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. No way to adjust the > length/feedback on the fly. > > I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be the > perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this thread > about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still need a good > phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff. > > > > > all the best, > > j > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike wrote: > > > On 31-Oct-10 3:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from > using delays for my looping and have > never been really comfortable with "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of > course. Just too stiff for me. > > > Please explain "stiff" for me, Jeff. Thanks. > > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > > > > -- > > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --20cf301d3a4c14e609049409d5ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0I always leave the input knobs=A0 about 1/4. I know this is relative, I = can turn down the fx before it but I get about the same results in range. T= he difference between where I would normally play at and a boosted signal t= o where a "lead" is, will clip it quickly. It seems about the sam= e as my Vortex units maybe more, not much range between good signal and cli= p. I have read others comments from time to time on this but it is an issue= for me. This is input clipping I am talking about. My DD 20 and M9 never h= ave this issue, I can feed them relatively big spikes without a clipping pr= oblem.

I have tried many ways to compensate for this. Reducing my output at al= l stages, etc. I lose dynamics or notice hiss if I get too fussy with it.= =A0 If you have any ideas I am all ears Chuck!

thanks,
J

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote"> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> = wrote:
Jeff,
=A0 I completely understand what you're looking for, and so I have been following this thread with some interest.=A0 I also use a 2880 (as well as a repeater), and I guess I don't quite understand the headroom comment.. As long as you don't clip the signal going in, you shouldn't have any headroom issues, and by using the realtime feedback sliders, you can actually "duck" an offensively clipped part of a loop.
How are your headroom problems manifest?

-Chuck


ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I have read what I wrote now).

When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will focus on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + can't.

I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by tapping the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording=A0 and set it on the fly. I do it both ways.

With it off=A0 I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the on button to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at whatever I have set it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter with one tap before I reach the max that is set or twice to set a longer loop (this is hard to explain but easy to do). This makes it very easy to zero in or correct the loop length in an improv situation. Re triggering the loop length is very important to me.

Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a riff or phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite repeats. Press the effect off button and play over the top. Backing off a bit on the fb knob so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset and go to the next slot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length already set and ready to tweak the same way. In the meantime loop 1 is still fading out at whatever I have left it set at. And so on through the 5 preset locations.The caveat is that after more than one advance it cuts off the first one and you can't go back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not really an issue for me.

I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth drones always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me being an all improv hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop fading out while bringing in another is free and not stiff.

I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both worlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't been ma= de that can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase samplers can do that (so far).

Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a looped phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough to have some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. No way to adjust the length/feedback on the fly.

=A0I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be the perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this thread about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still need a good phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff.




all the best,

j

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangm= usic.com> wrote:

On 31-Oct-10 3:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:
Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from using delays for my looping and have
never been really comfortable with "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for me.

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0Please explain "stiff" for me, Jeff. Thanks.

--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
=A0Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

----------

1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax

http://www.boom= erangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX =A076209
hardesty@minds= pring.com
940-382-3253

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX =A076099-3788


--=20

--20cf301d3a4c14e609049409d5ae-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 04:31:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C82623BE91; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 04:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=eLR/4AN6RTjj8pzh8kOb1YYOIPAi7pusdtSjrpkpa108/uYllu7mEAp+COXzqC+y; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 00:31:53 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-923450180==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79f84d08b8fb0a4a0c3e1a305423b8e93d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 04:31:56 +0000 (UTC) --============_-923450180==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Jeff, Your question is what *can* you do to get the most out of this setup.. My advice is to avoid clipping the 2880 at all cost, so turn down the input gain, turn up your amp a bit. I set the input gains on my 2880 all the way down (fully counterclockwise) when driving it from a multi effector, etc... The 2880 A/d converter is 24bit, so you will not hear quantization noise even if the signal is extremely low.. the concept of "good signal level" is a bit outdated considering the dynamic range of a 24 bit converter, and you are certainly not going to get *more* noise if the input gain is turned down. In modern digital recording (and loopers qualify as "recording") *lower* recording levels are your friend, clipping is your enemy. The 2880 analog input circuit is very simple and clean, in practical use the noise from the effects and the guitar itself are going to dominate... the hiss isn't generated by the 2880, but by what's feeding it. The feature set of the Boomerang sounds very interesting, I haven't heard the new one yet... the early Boomerang never sounded very clean, but it had a nice texture.. :) I'm always interested in unsynched loops, the RC-50 does that, too.. but I have really grown attached to the physical controls of the 2880 in live performance, often fading out certain elements, and later bringing them back in, etc.. I think that if a looper doesn't impose itself on the work in some way , it isn't a musical instrument... -Chuck > I always leave the input knobs about 1/4. I know this is relative, >I can turn down the fx before it but I get about the same results in >range. The difference between where I would normally play at and a >boosted signal to where a "lead" is, will clip it quickly. It seems >about the same as my Vortex units maybe more, not much range between >good signal and clip. I have read others comments from time to time >on this but it is an issue for me. This is input clipping I am >talking about. My DD 20 and M9 never have this issue, I can feed >them relatively big spikes without a clipping problem. > >I have tried many ways to compensate for this. Reducing my output at >all stages, etc. I lose dynamics or notice hiss if I get too fussy >with it. If you have any ideas I am all ears Chuck! > >thanks, >J > >On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Charles Zwicky ><cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote: > >Jeff, > I completely understand what you're looking for, and so I have >been following this thread with some interest. I also use a 2880 >(as well as a repeater), and I guess I don't quite understand the >headroom comment.. As long as you don't clip the signal going in, >you shouldn't have any headroom issues, and by using the realtime >feedback sliders, you can actually "duck" an offensively clipped >part of a loop. >How are your headroom problems manifest? > >-Chuck > > >>ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. >>(I have read what I wrote now). >> >>When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I >>will focus on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the >>2880/M9 and Boomer + can't. >> >>I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by >>tapping the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording >>and set it on the fly. I do it both ways. >> >>With it off I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the >>on button to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at >>whatever I have set it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter >>with one tap before I reach the max that is set or twice to set a >>longer loop (this is hard to explain but easy to do). This makes it >>very easy to zero in or correct the loop length in an improv >>situation. Re triggering the loop length is very important to me. >> >>Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a >>riff or phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite >>repeats. Press the effect off button and play over the top. Backing >>off a bit on the fb knob so it begins to fade I can press the >>advance preset and go to the next slot with it's own FB, loop >>level, loop length already set and ready to tweak the same way. In >>the meantime loop 1 is still fading out at whatever I have left it >>set at. And so on through the 5 preset locations.The caveat is that >>after more than one advance it cuts off the first one and you can't >>go back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not really an issue for >>me. >> >>I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth >>drones always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me >>being an all improv hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop >>fading out while bringing in another is free and not stiff. >> >>I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of >>both worlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't >>been made that can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase >>samplers can do that (so far). >> >>Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into >>a looped phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky >>enough to have some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. >>No way to adjust the length/feedback on the fly. >> >> I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be >>the perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started >>this thread about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I >>still need a good phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly >>stuff. >> >> >> >> >>all the best, >> >>j >> >On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike ><mnelson@boomerangmusic.com> >wrote: > > >On 31-Oct-10 3:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come >from using delays for my looping and have >never been really comfortable with "phrase samplers" which the >Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for me. > > > Please explain "stiff" for me, Jeff. Thanks. > >-- > >Mike Nelson >Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. >General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > >---------- > >"Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > >---------- > >1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > >http://www.boomerangmusic.com > >Contact for repairs: >Lee Hardesty >1516 Victoria Drive >Denton, TX 76209 >hardesty@mindspring.com > >940-382-3253 > >Billing Address: >Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >PO Box 3788 >Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > > > >-- > >... >http://www.zmix.net > >http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > >http://albumcredits.com/zmix -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-923450180==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Boomerang 3
Jeff,

Your question is what *can* you do to get the most out of this setup..   My advice is to avoid clipping the 2880 at all cost, so turn down the input gain, turn up your amp a bit.  I set the input gains on my 2880 all the way down (fully counterclockwise) when driving it from a multi effector, etc...

The 2880  A/d converter is 24bit,  so you will not hear quantization noise even if the signal is extremely low.. the concept of  "good signal level" is a bit outdated considering the  dynamic range of a 24 bit converter,  and you are certainly not going to get *more* noise if the input gain is turned down.  In modern digital recording (and loopers qualify as "recording") *lower* recording levels are your friend, clipping is your enemy.

The 2880 analog input circuit is very simple and clean, in practical use the noise from the effects and the guitar itself are going to dominate... the hiss isn't generated by the 2880, but by what's feeding it.   


The feature set of the Boomerang sounds very interesting, I haven't heard the new one yet... the early Boomerang never sounded very clean, but it had a nice texture..  :)   I'm always interested in unsynched loops, the RC-50  does that, too..  but I have really grown attached to the physical controls of the 2880 in live performance,  often fading out certain elements, and later bringing them back in, etc.. 

I think that if a looper doesn't impose itself on the work in some way , it isn't a musical instrument...

-Chuck

 I always leave the input knobs  about 1/4. I know this is relative, I can turn down the fx before it but I get about the same results in range. The difference between where I would normally play at and a boosted signal to where a "lead" is, will clip it quickly. It seems about the same as my Vortex units maybe more, not much range between good signal and clip. I have read others comments from time to time on this but it is an issue for me. This is input clipping I am talking about. My DD 20 and M9 never have this issue, I can feed them relatively big spikes without a clipping problem.

I have tried many ways to compensate for this. Reducing my output at all stages, etc. I lose dynamics or notice hiss if I get too fussy with it.  If you have any ideas I am all ears Chuck!

thanks,
J
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Jeff,
  I completely understand what you're looking for, and so I have been following this thread with some interest.  I also use a 2880 (as well as a repeater), and I guess I don't quite understand the headroom comment.. As long as you don't clip the signal going in, you shouldn't have any headroom issues, and by using the realtime feedback sliders, you can actually "duck" an offensively clipped part of a loop.
How are your headroom problems manifest?

-Chuck


ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I have read what I wrote now).

When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will focus on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + can't.

I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by tapping the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording  and set it on the fly. I do it both ways.

With it off  I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the on button to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at whatever I have set it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter with one tap before I reach the max that is set or twice to set a longer loop (this is hard to explain but easy to do). This makes it very easy to zero in or correct the loop length in an improv situation. Re triggering the loop length is very important to me.

Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a riff or phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite repeats. Press the effect off button and play over the top. Backing off a bit on the fb knob so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset and go to the next slot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length already set and ready to tweak the same way. In the meantime loop 1 is still fading out at whatever I have left it set at. And so on through the 5 preset locations.The caveat is that after more than one advance it cuts off the first one and you can't go back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not really an issue for me.

I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth drones always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me being an all improv hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop fading out while bringing in another is free and not stiff.

I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both worlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't been made that can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase samplers can do that (so far).

Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a looped phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough to have some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. No way to adjust the length/feedback on the fly.

 I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be the perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this thread about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still need a good phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff.




all the best,

j
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com> wrote:

On 31-Oct-10 3:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:
Yes I think so Sjaak, we do have a similar approach I think. I come from using delays for my looping and have
never been really comfortable with "phrase samplers" which the Boomer is of course. Just too stiff for me.

       Please explain "stiff" for me, Jeff. Thanks.

--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
 Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

----------

1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax

http://www.boomerangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX  76209
hardesty@mindspring.com
940-382-3253

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX  76099-3788


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix


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--============_-923450180==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 05:38:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4ECBF3BE8E; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 05:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aGhrwVIeTGjc9+KOutZSygtPzQwsjJbhfNzuNY66ldw=; b=yHjJE0DqJDhz7yB0NhgojyLbhiOK9ZY2uAO/skfx+Fnn8MGD4wNruVNgzVSzbNPlFJ WNZjiAgGIVd8nP/qn30BFC/ltG4nAY8CaoTSurXjuiXEs9T+fJzumc3RPoYVPH8fk0vk VeTVefJ4QSp3isEdH4cK3ojB9dCtCutPYHZoc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AWYEnDs7sMgSkNcr+tGIzy28rfpMAtAMuMwnU3BluQb82P5/Cw+L9U3euyMzOu70g4 rD2/PLxEsEy9v7afIpOOMB4RdmrfRZtXqMYqL3LNTD0z45KO+feQu1E9oSGHBbu430lV eyp81cLsH67XW7Izb+fiAkIBzoAtWe5oKlOnY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:38:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d3d9cfdc5d004940b56fb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 05:38:55 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301d3d9cfdc5d004940b56fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Chuck, I am a bit outdated personally anyway! I have recently added quite a bit of gear and will reevaluate my rig. Although it always has seemed very sensitive to me. The DL 4, M9 and DD 20 just don't ever have this issue for me. Tell me one thing though. Why do none of the modern fx boxes have any input lights anymore? Everything used to have them except small stomps. Since you turn them down all the way, do you think that the 2880 input design is a bit outdated? Still it is what it is and you make sense. I will be checking this out. I do dig the 2880 and would like to make it work for me better. thanks much, Jeff On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Jeff, > > Your question is what *can* you do to get the most out of this setup.. My > advice is to avoid clipping the 2880 at all cost, so turn down the input > gain, turn up your amp a bit. I set the input gains on my 2880 all the way > down (fully counterclockwise) when driving it from a multi effector, etc... > > The 2880 A/d converter is 24bit, so you will not hear quantization noise > even if the signal is extremely low.. the concept of "good signal level" is > a bit outdated considering the dynamic range of a 24 bit converter, and > you are certainly not going to get *more* noise if the input gain is turned > down. In modern digital recording (and loopers qualify as "recording") > *lower* recording levels are your friend, clipping is your enemy. > > The 2880 analog input circuit is very simple and clean, in practical use > the noise from the effects and the guitar itself are going to dominate... > the hiss isn't generated by the 2880, but by what's feeding it. > > > The feature set of the Boomerang sounds very interesting, I haven't heard > the new one yet... the early Boomerang never sounded very clean, but it had > a nice texture.. :) I'm always interested in unsynched loops, the RC-50 > does that, too.. but I have really grown attached to the physical controls > of the 2880 in live performance, often fading out certain elements, and > later bringing them back in, etc.. > > I think that if a looper doesn't impose itself on the work in some way , it > isn't a musical instrument... > > -Chuck > > I always leave the input knobs about 1/4. I know this is relative, I can > turn down the fx before it but I get about the same results in range. The > difference between where I would normally play at and a boosted signal to > where a "lead" is, will clip it quickly. It seems about the same as my > Vortex units maybe more, not much range between good signal and clip. I have > read others comments from time to time on this but it is an issue for me. > This is input clipping I am talking about. My DD 20 and M9 never have this > issue, I can feed them relatively big spikes without a clipping problem. > > I have tried many ways to compensate for this. Reducing my output at all > stages, etc. I lose dynamics or notice hiss if I get too fussy with it. If > you have any ideas I am all ears Chuck! > > thanks, > J > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Charles Zwicky > wrote: > > Jeff, > > I completely understand what you're looking for, and so I have been > following this thread with some interest. I also use a 2880 (as well as a > repeater), and I guess I don't quite understand the headroom comment.. As > long as you don't clip the signal going in, you shouldn't have any headroom > issues, and by using the realtime feedback sliders, you can actually "duck" > an offensively clipped part of a loop. > > How are your headroom problems manifest? > > > -Chuck > > > -- > > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --20cf301d3d9cfdc5d004940b56fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Chuck, I am a bit outdated personally anyway! I have recently added = quite a bit of gear and will reevaluate my rig. Although it always has seem= ed very sensitive to me. The DL 4, M9 and DD 20 just don't ever have th= is issue for me.

Tell me one thing though. Why do none of the modern fx boxes have any i= nput lights anymore? Everything used to have them except small stomps.
=
Since you turn them down all the way, do you think that the 2880 input = design is a bit outdated?

Still it is what it is and you make sense. I will be checking this out.= I do dig the 2880 and would like to make it work for me better.

tha= nks much,

Jeff

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010= at 12:31 AM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Jeff,

Your question is what *can* you do to get the most out of this setup..=A0=A0 My advice is to avoid clipping the 2880 at all cost, so turn down the input gain, turn up your amp a bit.=A0 I set the input gains on my 2880 all the way down (fully counterclockwise) when driving it from a multi effector, etc...

The 2880=A0 A/d converter is 24bit,=A0 so you will not hear quantization noise even if the signal is extremely low.. the concept of=A0 "good signal level" is a bit outdated considering the=A0 dynamic range of a 24 bit converter,=A0 and you are certainly not going to get *more* noise if the input gain is turned down.=A0 In modern digital recording (and loopers qualify as "recording") *lower* recording levels are your friend, clipping is your enemy.

The 2880 analog input circuit is very simple and clean, in practical use the noise from the effects and the guitar itself are going to dominate... the hiss isn't generated by the 2880, but by what's feeding it.=A0=A0=A0


The feature set of the Boomerang sounds very interesting, I haven't heard the new one yet... the early Boomerang never sounded very clean, but it had a nice texture..=A0 :)=A0=A0 I'm always interested in unsynched loops, the RC-50=A0 does that, too..=A0 but I have really grown attached to the physical controls of the 2880 in live performance,=A0 often fading out certain elements, and later bringing them back in, etc..=A0

I think that if a looper doesn't impose itself on the work in some way , it isn't a musical instrument...

-Chuck

=A0I always leave the input knobs=A0 about 1/4. I know this is relative, I can turn down the fx before it but I get about the same results in range. The difference between where I would normally play at and a boosted signal to where a "lead" is, will clip it quickly. It seems about the same as my Vortex units maybe more, not much range between good signal and clip. I have read others comments from time to time on this but it is an issue for me. This is input clipping I am talking about. My DD 20 and M9 never have this issue, I can feed them relatively big spikes without a clipping problem.

I have tried many ways to compensate for this. Reducing my output at all stages, etc. I lose dynamics or notice hiss if I get too fussy with it.=A0 If you have any ideas I am all ears Chuck!

thanks,
J
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazw= icky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Jeff,
=A0 I completely understand what you're looking for, and so I have been following this thread with some interest.=A0 I also use a 2880 (as well as a repeater), and I guess I don't quite understand the headroom comment.. As long as you don't clip the signal going in, you shouldn't have any headroom issues, and by using the realtime feedback sliders, you can actually "duck" an offensively clipped part of a loop.
How are your headroom problems manifest?

-Chuck

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--20cf301d3d9cfdc5d004940b56fb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 06:12:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31F083BE8E; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 06:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a9ddbe8a-c759-40c2-91e6-8550e09ead2a_" X-Originating-IP: [86.139.230.160] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 06:12:45 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>,,<0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net>,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2010 06:12:45.0438 (UTC) FILETIME=[F742C1E0:01CB7A54] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 06:12:47 +0000 (UTC) --_a9ddbe8a-c759-40c2-91e6-8550e09ead2a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card though ideally=2C purely = for convenience and portability. Unfortunately the stringport doesn't have = windows drivers and from what I've been told=2C won't even run with generic= asio4all drivers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll have to wait a few mon= ths :-( Keep us posted with your crazy sounds though - are you on the Yahoo MIDI gu= itar group? I'm sure they's enjoy learning what you're about over there in = Ireland. Peace Gareth Date: Mon=2C 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000 Subject: Re: Stringport PC=2C (was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED) From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Gareth=2C if you're interested in the stringport=2C you may be interested i= n this: http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board On Sat=2C Oct 30=2C 2010 at 6:54 PM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: Yes=2C the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jack= converter into a large(ish) soundcard=2C I was hoping to reduce my gear fo= otprint. I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though=2C (can't find them o= n their website) Have fun and report back Ted Gareth Date: Sat=2C 30 Oct 2010 13:12:58 -0400 Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!! From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I'm pretty sure it's pc-compatible=3B the sw is in Max=2C the connection is= usb. it would be too weird for it not to be On Sat=2C Oct 30=2C 2010 at 11:34 AM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: Gareth=2C I don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be=2C I don't know). You should read up on that. I received mine about a week ago but have been too busy with work and famil= y to delve into it much. I need fewer distraction right now. I'll post about it when I can. Best=2C Ted On Oct 30=2C 2010=2C at 12:54 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: Have you ordered the stringport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as I'm= thinking of using it on a PC. Peace Gareth Thanks for keep us in the loop. I'll be posting soon about my adventures with the StringPort. Ciao! Ted --=20 Warren http://www.warrensirota.com Latest CD: Loops=2C Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota =20 = --_a9ddbe8a-c759-40c2-91e6-8550e09ead2a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card though ideally=2C purely = for convenience and portability. Unfortunately the stringport doesn't have = windows drivers and from what I've been told=2C won't even run with generic= asio4all drivers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll have to wait a few mon= ths :-(
Keep us posted with your crazy sounds though - are you on the Ya= hoo MIDI guitar group? I'm sure they's enjoy learning what you're about ove= r there in Ireland.

Peace

Gareth

Date: Mon=2C 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000
Subject: Re: Stringport PC=2C = (was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED)
From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
To: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Gareth=2C if you're interested in= the stringport=2C you may be interested in this: http://rick= ygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board

On Sat=2C Oct 30=2C 2010 at 6:54 PM=2C Gareth= Whittock <=3Bbuddhamachine@live.co.uk>=3B wrote:
Yes=2C the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jack= converter into a large(ish) soundcard=2C I was hoping to reduce my gear fo= otprint.
I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though=2C (can't= find them on their website)

Have fun and report back Ted

Gareth

Date: Sat=2C 30 O= ct 2010 13:12:58 -0400
Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!!
From: = wsirota@wsdesigns.com
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com

I'm pretty sure it's pc-compatible=3B the sw= is in Max=2C the connection is usb. it would be too weird for it not to be=

On Sat=2C Oct 30=2C 2010 at 11:34 AM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn <=3Btedkillian@charter= .net>=3B wrote:
Gareth=2C

I don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be=2C I don't know).<= br>
You should read up on that.

I received mine about a week ago but have been too busy with work and famil= y to delve into it much.

I need fewer distraction right now.

I'll post about it when I can.

Best=2C

Ted


On Oct 30=2C 2010=2C at 12:54 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote:

Have you ordered the stringport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as I'm= thinking of using it on a PC.

Peace

Gareth


Thanks for keep us in the loop.

I'll be posting soon about my adventures with the StringPort.

Ciao!

Ted





--
Warren
<= a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrens= irota.com
Latest CD: Loops=2C Live &=3B Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/= warrensirota

= --_a9ddbe8a-c759-40c2-91e6-8550e09ead2a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 06:17:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 402663BE91; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 06:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:17:20 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 06:17:24 +0000 (UTC) So, I take it you are using one of the delay modes on the DD-20 as = opposed to the sound-on-sound mode? The description on the BOSS site = seemed to suggest that the sound-on-sound mode can't go straight into = overdub (the essential trick to creating seamless drones). Mark =09 On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I = have read what I wrote now).=20 >=20 > When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will = focus on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and = Boomer + can't. >=20 > I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by = tapping the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording and = set it on the fly. I do it both ways. >=20 > With it off I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the on = button to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at whatever I = have set it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter with one tap = before I reach the max that is set or twice to set a longer loop (this = is hard to explain but easy to do). This makes it very easy to zero in = or correct the loop length in an improv situation. Re triggering the = loop length is very important to me. >=20 > Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a = riff or phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite = repeats. Press the effect off button and play over the top. Backing off = a bit on the fb knob so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset = and go to the next slot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length = already set and ready to tweak the same way. In the meantime loop 1 is = still fading out at whatever I have left it set at. And so on through = the 5 preset locations.The caveat is that after more than one advance it = cuts off the first one and you can't go back to an earlier one to tweak = again. Not really an issue for me. >=20 > I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth = drones always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me being an = all improv hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop fading out = while bringing in another is free and not stiff. >=20 > I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both = worlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't been made = that can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase samplers can = do that (so far). >=20 > Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a = looped phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough = to have some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. No way to = adjust the length/feedback on the fly. >=20 > I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be = the perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this = thread about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still = need a good phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 09:14:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FD573BE92; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1288689243; bh=ONhOAdUQj2tQV9EALyjRJjhw1YlhcOe4DLJqkrmMex0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XhOEp/pqWRJKYxd09CJsvzsoAwfJufxTTjpRqLPOdffVXyciNGPCsYOuoFvGKGnzc7qsVk51dN6KTO9ne06FoXNVb7lfLfnD+DK2eLY3wYwxOTTRV5UqVegW3/srzNqlvRqkEYBOH2lDwe+vitLOwBuq+321E4i2Sa1UkJV7RlM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BIsEfvzZY11vh3Eql4YHr0CbXMNxWuVzoUWEAAhDv5gjlpEDSrijN3m1KCsdlibUC4hrF1NwFwmGOoewJEYZyEZI29HN2yermctY0WhYc2jAl6DPPAMYHCRhuxLUuE2KVff/2b+DDtrAUVjqr01nkMcivNpJZktnaCExAqqeR74=; Message-ID: <703150.26861.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uUfwgjcVM1nw6HMzEZcZJeBRJzRFHy3Y_o2rjG5HMDhoGAN 6DPUNSpF7lJMxZBH8QSefp0H9n5haoUtoOfvmKeic65fwO7Ob970VuHCtfMM QYmv4dBhxbaxbXmsxhkd1g8E.S08xerumMno5BE9PL4j6K8VNMwlpolmxC8t A7Bl6gIjP_oFQe2Hk0RDo_tgc5_j1qItgaQIPPGUdKK5i6qGo9ioNgTKqTHE GjESUIkPpCyhEEIMh825yxKmmQJPPmvdurnmM_6S0wKcZAKmQABB7i3GQs8Z SiraAQOzYBUQYkiq_pspcxEZwr_W_ftL_m2x7EsTcmmYMFjRCoFuoP6sXUEJ CxGm0NKTZsAvf_jKlV8VF_3_42E2Hn4QA.I4- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.284920 References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>,,<0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net>,,, Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 02:14:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Leifer Subject: Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1441376784-1288689243=:26861" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:14:05 +0000 (UTC) --0-1441376784-1288689243=:26861 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please re-address these messages, as they are bothering the fuck out of me.= =0Adhamachine@live.co.uk>=0A=0ATo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=0AS= ent: Mon, November 1, 2010 11:12:45 PM=0ASubject: RE: Stringport PC, and Ri= cky's box=0A=0A This looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card though i= deally, purely for =0Aconvenience and portability. Unfortunately the string= port doesn't have windows =0Adrivers and from what I've been told, won't ev= en run with generic asio4all =0Adrivers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll = have to wait a few months :-(=0AKeep us posted with your crazy sounds thoug= h - are you on the Yahoo MIDI guitar =0Agroup? I'm sure they's enjoy learni= ng what you're about over there in Ireland.=0A=0APeace=0A=0AGareth=0A=0A___= _____________________________=0ADate: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000=0ASubj= ect: Re: Stringport PC, (was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED)=0AFrom: rickygrahamm= usic@gmail.com=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A=0AGareth, if yo= u're interested in the stringport, you may be interested in this: =0Ahttp:/= /rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board=0A=0A=0AOn Sat, Oct 30= , 2010 at 6:54 PM, Gareth Whittock =0Awrote:=0A= =0AYes, the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jac= k =0Aconverter into a large(ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce my gear = footprint.=0A>I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though, (can't= find them on their =0A>website)=0A>=0A>Have fun and report back Ted=0A>=0A= >Gareth=0A>=0A>________________________________=0ADate: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13= :12:58 -0400=0A>Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!!=0A>From: wsirota@ws= designs.com=0A>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>=0A>I'm pretty su= re it's pc-compatible; the sw is in Max, the connection is usb. it =0A>woul= d be too weird for it not to be=0A>=0A>=0A>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM= , tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:=0A>=0A>Gareth,=0A>>=0A>>I= don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be, I don't know).=0A>= >=0A>>You should read up on that.=0A>>=0A>>I received mine about a week ago= but have been too busy with work and family to =0A>>delve into it much.=0A= >>=0A>>I need fewer distraction right now.=0A>>=0A>>I'll post about it when= I can.=0A>>=0A>>Best,=0A>>=0A>>Ted=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Oct 30, 2010, at 12:54= AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Have you ordered the stringport T= ed? I'm curious about the interface as I'm =0A>>thinking of using it on a P= C.=0A>>>=0A>>>Peace=0A>>>=0A>>>Gareth=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Thanks for keep us i= n the loop.=0A>>>=0A>>>I'll be posting soon about my adventures with the St= ringPort.=0A>>>=0A>>>Ciao!=0A>>>=0A>>>Ted=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>-- =0A= >Warren=0A>http://www.warrensirota.com=0A>Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw=0A>h= ttp://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1441376784-1288689243=:26861 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please re-address these messages, as they are both= ering the fuck out of me.
dhamachine@live.co.uk>
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 11:12:45 PM
Subject: RE: Stringport PC, and Ricky's = box

=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ATh= is looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card though ideally, purely for = convenience and portability. Unfortunately the stringport doesn't have wind= ows drivers and from what I've been told, won't even run with generic asio4= all drivers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll have to wait a few months :-= (
Keep us posted with your crazy sounds though - are you on the Yahoo MI= DI guitar group? I'm sure they's enjoy learning what you're about over ther= e in Ireland.

Peace

Gareth

Dat= e: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000
Subject: Re: Stringport PC, (was THE S= OFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED)
From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com

Gareth, if you're interested in the s= tringport, you may be interested in this: http://rickygraham.= com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board

=0A
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@= live.co.uk> wrote:
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0AYes, the hardware is PC c= ompatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jack converter into a large(ish= ) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce my gear footprint.
I'd like to check= the noise/distortion figures though, (can't find them on their website)=0A
Have fun and report back Ted

Gareth

Date: Sat, 30= Oct 2010 13:12:58 -0400
Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!!
From= : wsirota@wsdesigns.com
= =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I'm pretty sure it's pc-co= mpatible; the sw is in Max, the connection is usb. it would be too weird fo= r it not to be
=0A
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, tEd =AE KiL= LiAn <tedk= illian@charter.net> wrote:
=0A
Gareth,
=0A
=0AI don't know that it's PC compatible (tho= ugh it might be, I don't know).
=0A
=0AYou should read up on that.=0A
=0AI received mine about a week ago but have been too busy with wor= k and family to delve into it much.
=0A
=0AI need fewer distraction r= ight now.
=0A
=0AI'll post about it when I can.
=0A
=0ABest,=0A
=0ATed

=0A=0AOn Oct 30, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:
=0A
=0A=0AHave you ordered the stringport Ted= ? I'm curious about the interface as I'm thinking of using it on a PC.
= =0A
=0APeace
=0A
=0AGareth
=0A
=0A
=0AThanks for keep us = in the loop.
=0A
=0AI'll be posting soon about my adventures with the= StringPort.
=0A
=0ACiao!
=0A
=0ATed
=0A
=0A
= =0A
=0A



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ht= tp://www.warrensirota.com
Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw= http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
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=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1441376784-1288689243=:26861-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 09:16:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D2263BE92; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1288689360; bh=Os/EodHgsinA1Avcrkx62V83oo8z76nLRDhJHCBWoHI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YRj83Nl+gDrciYha4vJW6jqVOQtXTANBc1OH/qbjk60jwzP2C8zdjF2mByLESurOGYZrlHBc46VpjNgoMp3rdXIkVWBiCXvUJV2EI1/ZixRMMUN0PPQErV66+J9yyiBdrDTy35krxR2wp3TO2YJZ1lQONEMmiivzBoLWpqXYfIA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hJBZqBu/8bf5h+OmpRuVirezA/F2xDHxzVbFvwrQfXjrqo/rTZKgLeMyvUIznPR9hv4ZFoZtod+9aLq6xFvvE1/+NS6N8cWfFoHyyWZqovLzLCGCMUcRGj5PzdNB2+q0iiGZUTHfnolY+sLYJyfNAcHN2yUT0drEhS/Hnh4ZczQ=; Message-ID: <679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KBHEYucVM1mk8tBnLlnP7zryaAm0n6IAVoUxj9odBi5cTf2 EPHcBg0nCRa3vZmHJdakFy7yGyPphJDgQxtQYHW2nhi4KVWs72lq.oP762Rk 8epDM0W3QwZtLw5bBeDJ1KRTpSbdhxuVM1FQwBy8m4YCo1xcrZ25Vd4_zc60 tdPr2k2NECp.AjSDiXSF2y19VZ72tzni8NE3gQRebawgR_KJgp56v0BQuE4H cfcYX_Ek7DhIfshEP4dYaDCRrj.byQyrXsGGfqPP3B8iZjhHSZ_qiR2vxJp6 32vd9YARLSzGPTy64QciK.hU16tZWZOBbDXwY0.zlCrl3V7Fgjw.EVD_Tiir CA6QTZyCYayrHeZNj7nE2GAPzQAZv_EzSFqI- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.284920 References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>,,<0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net>,,, Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 02:16:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Leifer Subject: Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1544002593-1288689360=:87206" Resent-Message-ID: <_BplXB.A.7PE.Sb9zMB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:16:02 +0000 (UTC) --0-1544002593-1288689360=:87206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable fucking re-address your messages mate =0AMy fucking spam filter has had it = with you.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gareth Whi= ttock =0ATo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com= =0ASent: Mon, November 1, 2010 11:12:45 PM=0ASubject: RE: Stringport PC, an= d Ricky's box=0A=0A This looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card thou= gh ideally, purely for =0Aconvenience and portability. Unfortunately the st= ringport doesn't have windows =0Adrivers and from what I've been told, won'= t even run with generic asio4all =0Adrivers - how frustrating! Looks like I= 'll have to wait a few months :-(=0AKeep us posted with your crazy sounds t= hough - are you on the Yahoo MIDI guitar =0Agroup? I'm sure they's enjoy le= arning what you're about over there in Ireland.=0A=0APeace=0A=0AGareth=0A= =0A________________________________=0ADate: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000= =0ASubject: Re: Stringport PC, (was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED)=0AFrom: ricky= grahammusic@gmail.com=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A=0AGareth= , if you're interested in the stringport, you may be interested in this: = =0Ahttp://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board=0A=0A=0AOn Sa= t, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Gareth Whittock =0Aw= rote:=0A=0AYes, the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pi= n to jack =0Aconverter into a large(ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce = my gear footprint.=0A>I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though= , (can't find them on their =0A>website)=0A>=0A>Have fun and report back Te= d=0A>=0A>Gareth=0A>=0A>________________________________=0ADate: Sat, 30 Oct= 2010 13:12:58 -0400=0A>Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!!=0A>From: ws= irota@wsdesigns.com=0A>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>=0A>I'm p= retty sure it's pc-compatible; the sw is in Max, the connection is usb. it = =0A>would be too weird for it not to be=0A>=0A>=0A>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at = 11:34 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:=0A>=0A>Gareth,=0A= >>=0A>>I don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be, I don't kn= ow).=0A>>=0A>>You should read up on that.=0A>>=0A>>I received mine about a = week ago but have been too busy with work and family to =0A>>delve into it = much.=0A>>=0A>>I need fewer distraction right now.=0A>>=0A>>I'll post about= it when I can.=0A>>=0A>>Best,=0A>>=0A>>Ted=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Oct 30, 2010, = at 12:54 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Have you ordered the stri= ngport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as I'm =0A>>thinking of using i= t on a PC.=0A>>>=0A>>>Peace=0A>>>=0A>>>Gareth=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Thanks for k= eep us in the loop.=0A>>>=0A>>>I'll be posting soon about my adventures wit= h the StringPort.=0A>>>=0A>>>Ciao!=0A>>>=0A>>>Ted=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>=0A>=0A>= =0A>-- =0A>Warren=0A>http://www.warrensirota.com=0A>Latest CD: Loops, Live = & Otw=0A>http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1544002593-1288689360=:87206 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
fucking re-address your messages mate
My fucking sp= am filter has had it with you.

Fr= om: Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>
To: loopers-delight@loopers-deligh= t.com
Sent: Mon, Novemb= er 1, 2010 11:12:45 PM
Subject: RE: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box

=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AThis looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pi= n sound card though ideally, purely for convenience and portability. Unfort= unately the stringport doesn't have windows drivers and from what I've been= told, won't even run with generic asio4all drivers - how frustrating! Look= s like I'll have to wait a few months :-(
Keep us posted with your crazy= sounds though - are you on the Yahoo MIDI guitar group? I'm sure they's en= joy learning what you're about over there in Ireland.

Peace

G= areth

Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000Subject: Re: Stringport PC, (was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED)
From: ricky= grahammusic@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Gareth, if you're interested in the stringport, you may be interested in= this: http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-b= oard

=0A
On Sat, Oct 30, 201= 0 at 6:54 PM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
=
=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A
=0AYes, the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 1= 3pin to jack converter into a large(ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce = my gear footprint.
I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though= , (can't find them on their website)
=0A
Have fun and report back Ted=

Gareth

Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:12:58 -0400
Subject:= Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!!
From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com
=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /a>

I'm pretty sure it's pc-compatible; the sw is in Max, the connec= tion is usb. it would be too weird for it not to be
=0A
On Sat, = Oct 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wr= ote:
=0A
Gareth,
=0A
=0AI = don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be, I don't know).
= =0A
=0AYou should read up on that.
=0A
=0AI received mine about a = week ago but have been too busy with work and family to delve into it much.=
=0A
=0AI need fewer distraction right now.
=0A
=0AI'll post ab= out it when I can.
=0A
=0ABest,
=0A
=0A= Ted

=0A
=0AOn Oct 30, 2010, at 12:54 AM, = Gareth Whittock wrote:
=0A
=0A

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http://www.warrensirota.com
Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensiro= ta
=0A =09=09 =09 =09=09
=0A

= =09=09 =09 =09=09
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=0A=0A --0-1544002593-1288689360=:87206-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 09:24:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B4F73BE93; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1288689888; l=3843; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: In-Reply-To:References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=hagBVOVwITxqwWVRzn6s92iU6mc=; b=Q10YaQrpZWeenYqBm2SVvuNzu1MfrH7gLebwBe4qaQQOUEBcHQeVsPr3LvFowkyjvW3 QMLI83wknY/ORhZps4BTFFhlSq/g5oiPGK4tzTD9t82uNBoWHejtLx8ehqlxVqduPhBr+ tSoFCf+n/eU+G2SIyVbieHVADoevE/TfzAo= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWjBOblRsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:21:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be rather done with the delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can switch then from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. Attention: You can NOT switch back to the first used mode cause the sounds on the first mode will be deleted. That´s not so good with the DD 20. The delay modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on ambient soundscapes. Much better doing these with the DD 20 than the RC 50. Nice Day! Christo www.christojota.de -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Hamburg" Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:17 AM To: Subject: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) > So, I take it you are using one of the delay modes on the DD-20 as opposed > to the sound-on-sound mode? The description on the BOSS site seemed to > suggest that the sound-on-sound mode can't go straight into overdub (the > essential trick to creating seamless drones). > > Mark > > On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I >> have read what I wrote now). >> >> When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will >> focus on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and >> Boomer + can't. >> >> I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by tapping >> the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording and set it on >> the fly. I do it both ways. >> >> With it off I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the on >> button to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at whatever I >> have set it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter with one tap before >> I reach the max that is set or twice to set a longer loop (this is hard >> to explain but easy to do). This makes it very easy to zero in or correct >> the loop length in an improv situation. Re triggering the loop length is >> very important to me. >> >> Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a riff >> or phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite repeats. >> Press the effect off button and play over the top. Backing off a bit on >> the fb knob so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset and go to >> the next slot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length already set and >> ready to tweak the same way. In the meantime loop 1 is still fading out >> at whatever I have left it set at. And so on through the 5 preset >> locations.The caveat is that after more than one advance it cuts off the >> first one and you can't go back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not >> really an issue for me. >> >> I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth drones >> always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me being an all >> improv hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop fading out while >> bringing in another is free and not stiff. >> >> I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both >> worlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't been made >> that can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase samplers can do >> that (so far). >> >> Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a >> looped phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough >> to have some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. No way to >> adjust the length/feedback on the fly. >> >> I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be the >> perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this thread >> about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still need a good >> phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 10:35:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBD4E3BE8F; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 10:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1288694136; bh=Nswc9aresfP2n5h+rPlFi+mjb2QmAxnjHSpIJ4xWVSo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eunKKXDbQqX5Efg7yQeLBham2eLTMpKvrXaY8WA1hE/Da37FPzK+Os+fwu8xUG/BawIcbphYOVq1ggkI0CkF049hVWVN8YHlJ0myfmvk8D9zQHuq6k9gBVlvNKLftnNQDlqW4JsWRcrZeUafDPTAunhtwXy4wCvpDpU4oRVKed0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tdwTZMQLxck++ADTeTlJFJ5mGs9zWrJsY8W1guyKEws18gZkLgMlnB0bdD21q5k6rtqNGQ9FgV66t6ZcsIVtYOKxnx4iI8zwmzX7yZLaLUdadlH3/C4adxRsPWThkiqUNx5ENC+tRrpfNTfKfUSoVECLVxK9iYhhsWqTPVy2UXY=; Message-ID: <490076.57927.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: IFhTMQcVM1ldSYQUlU1xvV9kpgz9uNDryHBg5rP4NJ9zYyF O7p3VqqgwPnVuZbP4H1dKH6kUimFtZJ8eojiEQMN_roEKZxRCPQBAeHCENlx JFSpQ.i1k_xGq3RsUmEV_8kUceQVrGSYrAZmJN5_HOFVXrcoGBDn80_GpXjI vboN_v3ewWkVoR0jBz82borI9KaogF80rfiqAG.VK8lQFz.u1b7TO2kcJfzf POuSueMvsYgN5L3gV4vTbQ.5y1jGkQVZq7CWftQB80atjj_4wOGXb1Wz7r1d bE9FGOD_mwmXL1XVUELQXbw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.284920 References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>,,<0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net>,,, <679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 03:35:36 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1496698661-1288694136=:57927" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 10:35:37 +0000 (UTC) --0-1496698661-1288694136=:57927 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Randy,=0A=0Aplease explain what is going on, this is a list, if you are not= on it you should =0Anot be receiving these messages.=0A=0AAntony=0A=0A=0A= =0A________________________________=0AFrom: Randy Leifer =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Tue, Novemb= er 2, 2010 10:16:00 AM=0ASubject: Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box=0A=0A= =0Afucking re-address your messages mate =0AMy fucking spam filter has had = it with you.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gareth = Whittock =0ATo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.c= om=0ASent: Mon, November 1, 2010 11:12:45 PM=0ASubject: RE: Stringport PC, = and Ricky's box=0A=0A This looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card tho= ugh ideally, purely for =0Aconvenience and portability. Unfortunately the s= tringport doesn't have windows =0Adrivers and from what I've been told, won= 't even run with generic asio4all =0Adrivers - how frustrating! Looks like = I'll have to wait a few months :-(=0AKeep us posted with your crazy sounds = though - are you on the Yahoo MIDI guitar =0Agroup? I'm sure they's enjoy l= earning what you're about over there in Ireland.=0A=0APeace=0A=0AGareth=0A= =0A________________________________=0ADate: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000= =0ASubject: Re: Stringport PC, (was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED)=0AFrom: ricky= grahammusic@gmail.com=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A=0AGareth= , if you're interested in the stringport, you may be interested in this: = =0Ahttp://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board=0A=0A=0AOn Sa= t, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Gareth Whittock =0Aw= rote:=0A=0AYes, the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pi= n to jack =0Aconverter into a large(ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce = my gear footprint.=0A>I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though= , (can't find them on their =0A>website)=0A>=0A>Have fun and report back Te= d=0A>=0A>Gareth=0A>=0A>________________________________=0ADate: Sat, 30 Oct= 2010 13:12:58 -0400=0A>Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!!=0A>From: ws= irota@wsdesigns.com=0A>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>=0A>I'm p= retty sure it's pc-compatible; the sw is in Max, the connection is usb. it = =0A>would be too weird for it not to be=0A>=0A>=0A>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at = 11:34 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:=0A>=0A>Gareth,=0A= >>=0A>>I don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be, I don't kn= ow).=0A>>=0A>>You should read up on that.=0A>>=0A>>I received mine about a = week ago but have been too busy with work and family to =0A>>delve into it = much.=0A>>=0A>>I need fewer distraction right now.=0A>>=0A>>I'll post about= it when I can.=0A>>=0A>>Best,=0A>>=0A>>Ted=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Oct 30, 2010, = at 12:54 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Have you ordered the stri= ngport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as I'm =0A>>thinking of using i= t on a PC.=0A>>>=0A>>>Peace=0A>>>=0A>>>Gareth=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Thanks for k= eep us in the loop.=0A>>>=0A>>>I'll be posting soon about my adventures wit= h the StringPort.=0A>>>=0A>>>Ciao!=0A>>>=0A>>>Ted=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>=0A>=0A>= =0A>-- =0A>Warren=0A>http://www.warrensirota.com=0A>Latest CD: Loops, Live = & Otw=0A>http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota=0A>=0A=0A=0A --0-1496698661-1288694136=:57927 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Randy,

please explain what is going on, = this is a list, if you are not on it you should not be receiving these mess= ages.

Antony

From: Randy Leifer <redrabbitlosangeles@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
<= b>Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010= 10:16:00 AM
Subject: R= e: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box

=0A
fucking r= e-address your messages mate
My fucking spam filter has had it with you= .

From: Gareth Whittoc= k <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>
= To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 11:12:45 PM
Subject: RE: Stringport PC, and = Ricky's box

=0A =0A=0A=0A=0AThis looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card tho= ugh ideally, purely for convenience and portability. Unfortunately the stri= ngport doesn't have windows drivers and from what I've been told, won't eve= n run with generic asio4all drivers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll have= to wait a few months :-(
Keep us posted with your crazy sounds though -= are you on the Yahoo MIDI guitar group? I'm sure they's enjoy learning wha= t you're about over there in Ireland.

Peace

Gareth

Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000
Subject: Re: S= tringport PC, (was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED)
From: rickygrahammusic@gmai= l.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Gareth,= if you're interested in the stringport, you may be interested in this: http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board

=0A
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 a= t 6:54 PM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A
=0AYes, the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pi= n to jack converter into a large(ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce my = gear footprint.
I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though, (= can't find them on their website)
=0A
Have fun and report back Ted
Gareth

Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:12:58 -0400
Subject: Re= : THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!!
From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com
=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=

I'm pretty sure it's pc-compatible; the sw is in Max, the connectio= n is usb. it would be too weird for it not to be
=0A
On Sat, Oct= 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:<= br>=0A
Gareth,
=0A
=0AI don't = know that it's PC compatible (though it might be, I don't know).
=0A
= =0AYou should read up on that.
=0A
=0AI received mine about a week ag= o but have been too busy with work and family to delve into it much.
=0A=
=0AI need fewer distraction right now.
=0A
=0AI'll post about it = when I can.
=0A
=0ABest,
=0A
=0ATed

=0A
=0AOn Oct 30, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Gareth = Whittock wrote:
=0A
=0A
=0AHav= e you ordered the stringport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as I'm th= inking of using it on a PC.
=0A
=0APeace
=0A
=0AGareth
=0A=0A
=0AThanks for keep us in the loop.
=0A
=0AI'll be posting so= on about my adventures with the StringPort.
=0A
=0ACiao!
=0A
= =0ATed
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0A
<= br>

--
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com=
Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/c= d/warrensirota
=0A =09=09 =09 =09=09
=0A

=09=09 =09 =09=09
=0A

=0A=0A =
=0A=0A=0A

=0A= =0A --0-1496698661-1288694136=:57927-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 11:43:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F0E23BE89; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=p4YzIgL6XlPmZfwHV+P56EdWUCmUIRKiksFu51uMEL/BmMYZHD5uuDyC7TSvy3FBO6LpVrA+AQj/bDxnAza7wbMHesGnBNQu8AJ5Pz4xNO/pFWu82Fh838FCJ7ZQTTYeG1+roaCj6Y+w42S2zxhroVnEf83mOUL32/aNv7WNnxI= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1288698230; bh=XYtT6Lst/lUi6xieK7SvaDjW2Mjnk/DUruiUtIvUAPA=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=pfsVaC1qs3vEtdn+RMGwslj75inc7xs0vO5iCPfdpajMzwZtG8VZZk6X0PziEfkP2Y7XKph4ztGKvVICABMwWyN0D9+kZPItyGw4aihn2+5lLmoh2FcsLIksxM8R/n6rnl4/QDbs7XxBsgq/0L/JTTs2bYdNVyEgOBFQhaMaK1E= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: G4TpuNcVM1mcoU2h9yf5zvlU4OqKimUuPk29pY1OPMg_O8_ UHu7G7qzUpjeKj1Yo.ahKv4aJJDdxe5G5O9zo9ssXk695SH6ae.sj852Fam1 0ES.h9YgPBAtg0mey9d1lv_yb.WsSox6JvxTTLhll9d9tpSKu.KN1mSnQ1ro yimjr1j6_RWVid7PtmhI7R.2rkXZ1io9RlA4U2C2G9UeS.tqMWuWEPcclSP4 v.SzbOoQjI7pctbGP X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Subject: Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net> <679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Matt Stevens Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--994104001 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: <679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <463C397A-DD7C-451A-8DF1-EB359F58723B@btinternet.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:43:35 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:43:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--994104001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Customer service in action Sent from my iPhone On 2 Nov 2010, at 09:16, Randy Leifer wrote:= > fucking re-address your messages mate=20 > My fucking spam filter has had it with you. >=20 > From: Gareth Whittock > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 11:12:45 PM > Subject: RE: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box >=20 > This looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card though ideally, purely f= or convenience and portability. Unfortunately the stringport doesn't have wi= ndows drivers and from what I've been told, won't even run with generic asio= 4all drivers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll have to wait a few months :-= ( > Keep us posted with your crazy sounds though - are you on the Yahoo MIDI g= uitar group? I'm sure they's enjoy learning what you're about over there in I= reland. >=20 > Peace >=20 > Gareth >=20 > Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000 > Subject: Re: Stringport PC, (was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED) > From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Gareth, if you're interested in the stringport, you may be interested in t= his: http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board >=20 > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Yes, the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jack c= onverter into a large(ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce my gear footpri= nt. > I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though, (can't find them on= their website) >=20 > Have fun and report back Ted >=20 > Gareth >=20 > Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:12:58 -0400 > Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!! > From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I'm pretty sure it's pc-compatible; the sw is in Max, the connection is us= b. it would be too weird for it not to be >=20 > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Gareth, >=20 > I don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be, I don't know). >=20 > You should read up on that. >=20 > I received mine about a week ago but have been too busy with work and fami= ly to delve into it much. >=20 > I need fewer distraction right now. >=20 > I'll post about it when I can. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Ted >=20 >=20 > On Oct 30, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: >=20 > Have you ordered the stringport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as I'= m thinking of using it on a PC. >=20 > Peace >=20 > Gareth >=20 >=20 > Thanks for keep us in the loop. >=20 > I'll be posting soon about my adventures with the StringPort. >=20 > Ciao! >=20 > Ted >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Warren > http://www.warrensirota.com > Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--994104001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
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On 2 Nov 2010, at 09:16, Randy Leifer <redrabbitlosangeles@yahoo.com= > wrote:

fucking re-address your messages mate
My fucking spam filter has had it= with you.

From: Gareth Wh= ittock <buddhamachine@live.co= .uk>
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 11:1= 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: Str= ingport PC, and Ricky's box

This looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card though ideally, purely for= convenience and portability. Unfortunately the stringport doesn't have wind= ows drivers and from what I've been told, won't even run with generic asio4a= ll drivers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll have to wait a few months :-(<= br>Keep us posted with your crazy sounds though - are you on the Yahoo MIDI g= uitar group? I'm sure they's enjoy learning what you're about over there in I= reland.

Peace

Gareth

Date: Mon,= 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000
Subject: Re: Stringport PC, (was THE SOFTSTEP H= AS ARRIVED)
From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
To= : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /a>

Gareth, if you're interested in the stringport, you may be i= nterested in this: http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-sep= tar-board

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Gareth Whitto= ck <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>= wrote:
Yes, the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jack co= nverter into a large(ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce my gear footprin= t.
I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though, (can't find the= m on their website)

Have fun and report back Ted

Gareth

Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2= 010 13:12:58 -0400
Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!!
From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com

I'm pretty sure it's pc-compatible; the sw is in M= ax, the connection is usb. it would be too weird for it not to be

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Gareth,

I don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be, I don't know).
=
You should read up on that.

I received mine about a week ago but have been too busy with work and family= to delve into it much.

I need fewer distraction right now.

I'll post about it when I can.

Best,

Ted


On Oct 30, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:

Have you ordered the stringport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as I'm t= hinking of using it on a PC.

Peace

Gareth


Thanks for keep us in the loop.

I'll be posting soon about my adventures with the StringPort.

Ciao!

Ted





--
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com
Late= st CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota


= --Apple-Mail-1--994104001-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 12:23:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8C6E3BE8E; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ce13c166-779d-468b-bd8e-3a5e9f3ed5bf_" X-Originating-IP: [212.219.56.214] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:23:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>,,<0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net>,,, ,<679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2010 12:23:01.0749 (UTC) FILETIME=[B136CA50:01CB7A88] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:23:03 +0000 (UTC) --_ce13c166-779d-468b-bd8e-3a5e9f3ed5bf_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Randy=2C=20 Keep a civil tongue. That's no way to talk to anyone.=20 I suggest you sort out your filter directly. =20 Gareth =20 Date: Tue=2C 2 Nov 2010 02:16:00 -0700 From: redrabbitlosangeles@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Stringport PC=2C and Ricky's box To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com fucking re-address your messages mate=20 My fucking spam filter has had it with you. From: Gareth Whittock To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon=2C November 1=2C 2010 11:12:45 PM Subject: RE: Stringport PC=2C and Ricky's box This looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card though ideally=2C purely = for convenience and portability. Unfortunately the stringport doesn't have = windows drivers and from what I've been told=2C won't even run with generic= asio4all drivers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll have to wait a few mon= ths :-( Keep us posted with your crazy sounds though - are you on the Yahoo MIDI gu= itar group? I'm sure they's enjoy learning what you're about over there in = Ireland. Peace Gareth Date: Mon=2C 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000 Subject: Re: Stringport PC=2C (was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED) From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Gareth=2C if you're interested in the stringport=2C you may be interested i= n this: http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board On Sat=2C Oct 30=2C 2010 at 6:54 PM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: Yes=2C the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jack= converter into a large(ish) soundcard=2C I was hoping to reduce my gear fo= otprint. I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though=2C (can't find them o= n their website) Have fun and report back Ted Gareth Date: Sat=2C 30 Oct 2010 13:12:58 -0400 Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!! From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I'm pretty sure it's pc-compatible=3B the sw is in Max=2C the connection is= usb. it would be too weird for it not to be On Sat=2C Oct 30=2C 2010 at 11:34 AM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: Gareth=2C I don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be=2C I don't know). You should read up on that. I received mine about a week ago but have been too busy with work and famil= y to delve into it much. I need fewer distraction right now. I'll post about it when I can. Best=2C Ted On Oct 30=2C 2010=2C at 12:54 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: Have you ordered the stringport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as I'm= thinking of using it on a PC. Peace Gareth Thanks for keep us in the loop. I'll be posting soon about my adventures with the StringPort. Ciao! Ted --=20 Warren http://www.warrensirota.com Latest CD: Loops=2C Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota = --_ce13c166-779d-468b-bd8e-3a5e9f3ed5bf_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Randy=2C
Keep a civil tongue. That's no way to talk to anyone.
I suggest you sort out your filter directly.
 =3B
Gareth
 =3B
Date: Tue=2C 2 Nov 2010 02:16:00 -0700
From: redrabbitlosangeles@yahoo.c= om
Subject: Re: Stringport PC=2C and Ricky's box
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com


= --_ce13c166-779d-468b-bd8e-3a5e9f3ed5bf_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 12:31:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FA253BE92; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1288701113; bh=YpNqHUab5VRp4On1nkM7XH4jawi1ZEobkoFIMZ7FDXQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O4UYX78kfuudwExJTRrslpUAwOCr5xWvXRWpSlkrq1IbMfBbzhuU9o260RgNfiKt6HOAHtUC3s1OlZbzTdGYF5C8s4ZQDS3x9N7bjvaHrSMkeRBw6ElouZ/r63v1PxasbfsAlTeUFDWN0SCIvRLqxv36Q3nQH7joVtX14eL8/ng= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QGvXCRvOLx6q7U3SHe09KqHHqZrqt/dAaoZyaPwNJ+UzUX3R9Cyd8Q9HnyTyYLh+Et49mn8ezgNlnZX4QqG5jvjzHsLRelmdDvANXPAGJsMzixNYNo2qb6Cu38+y8yrqbdMp+XRyCQQ2R/Mclt0gbger/YBKA8+/KLpAniI++1Y=; Message-ID: <466063.97439.qm@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: y7DLiugVM1nj79fDwyXQcpcVdcCxfAqCMdsWVvu5m..RVS7 skn3Hof4nW0XhhOuJ9UZ_aAm2il7Oj3G5C.Ql1bz6lh9Cky26tXGmPk20.cT dflWWUtjIb1Hy_YbsoCv_trmkorDICMn_Dg04.C9rwWdHFih2zwADW1FyT0C KOAZx3y2NR31SRm2Y0qm2QzAzE3BpaZnQ2_22f006jUNgIFNbRUJy5eVXFBx .9QlBSPoA4G0xlH5DxmhvTe7VIkAvagapEdHR1qjExJeaBe5RepcLlD1hUMz z1ZU4qfYumDFcMJ85HS4LBHopqPEsmbPH1ueiuzsHg7HvorhtnpWDH3b1H7w qNSs5XNze5NCre5SkD2JFMn_eJizN1T9fOvM- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.284920 References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>,,<0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net>,,, ,<679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 05:31:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Leifer Subject: Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-289213225-1288701113=:97439" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:31:56 +0000 (UTC) --0-289213225-1288701113=:97439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no, youb areb sendingb theseb postsb tob theb wrongb addressbnesses.=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gareth Whittock =0ATo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Tue, No= vember 2, 2010 5:23:01 AM=0ASubject: RE: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box=0A= =0A Randy, =0AKeep a civil tongue. That's no way to talk to anyone. =0AI s= uggest you sort out your filter directly.=0A =0AGareth=0A =0A______________= __________________=0A Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 02:16:00 -0700=0AFrom: redrabbi= tlosangeles@yahoo.com=0ASubject: Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box=0ATo: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A=0A =0Afucking re-address your message= s mate =0AMy fucking spam filter has had it with you.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______= _________________________=0A From: Gareth Whittock =0ATo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Mon, November 1, 2010 = 11:12:45 PM=0ASubject: RE: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box=0A=0A This looks = cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card though ideally, purely for =0Aconven= ience and portability. Unfortunately the stringport doesn't have windows = =0Adrivers and from what I've been told, won't even run with generic asio4a= ll =0Adrivers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll have to wait a few months = :-(=0AKeep us posted with your crazy sounds though - are you on the Yahoo M= IDI guitar =0Agroup? I'm sure they's enjoy learning what you're about over = there in Ireland.=0A=0APeace=0A=0AGareth=0A=0A_____________________________= ___=0A Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000=0ASubject: Re: Stringport PC, (= was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED)=0AFrom: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com=0ATo: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A=0AGareth, if you're interested in the st= ringport, you may be interested in this: =0Ahttp://rickygraham.com/break-ou= t-box-kits-the-septar-board=0A=0A=0AOn Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Gareth= Whittock =0Awrote:=0A=0AYes, the hardware is PC= compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jack =0Aconverter into a larg= e(ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce my gear footprint.=0A>I'd like to = check the noise/distortion figures though, (can't find them on their =0A>we= bsite)=0A>=0A>Have fun and report back Ted=0A>=0A>Gareth=0A>=0A>___________= _____________________=0A Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:12:58 -0400=0A>Subject: = Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!!=0A>From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com=0A>To: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>=0A>I'm pretty sure it's pc-compatible; th= e sw is in Max, the connection is usb. it =0A>would be too weird for it not= to be=0A>=0A>=0A>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:=0A>=0A>Gareth,=0A>>=0A>>I don't know that it's PC = compatible (though it might be, I don't know).=0A>>=0A>>You should read up = on that.=0A>>=0A>>I received mine about a week ago but have been too busy w= ith work and family to =0A>>delve into it much.=0A>>=0A>>I need fewer distr= action right now.=0A>>=0A>>I'll post about it when I can.=0A>>=0A>>Best,=0A= >>=0A>>Ted =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Oct 30, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Gareth Whittock wro= te:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Have you ordered the stringport Ted? I'm curious about th= e interface as I'm =0A>>thinking of using it on a PC.=0A>>>=0A>>>Peace=0A>>= >=0A>>>Gareth=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Thanks for keep us in the loop.=0A>>>=0A>>>I= 'll be posting soon about my adventures with the StringPort.=0A>>>=0A>>>Cia= o!=0A>>>=0A>>>Ted=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>-- =0A>Warren=0A>http://www.wa= rrensirota.com/=0A>Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw=0A>http://www.cdbaby.com/cd= /warrensirota=0A>=0A=0A=0A --0-289213225-1288701113=:97439 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
no, youb areb sendingb theseb postsb tob theb wrongb ad= dressbnesses.

From: Ga= reth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 5:23:0= 1 AM
Subject: RE: Strin= gport PC, and Ricky's box

=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARandy,
=0AKeep a civil tongue. That's no way to tal= k to anyone.
=0AI suggest you sort out your filter directly.
=0A&nbs= p;
=0AGareth
 
=0A=0A
=0ADate: Tue, 2 = Nov 2010 02:16:00 -0700
From: redrabbitlosangeles@yahoo.com
Subject: = Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om

=0A =0A=0A=0A
=0A
fucking re-address your messages mate
My fucking spam filt= er has had it with you.
=0A

=0A
=0A
=0AFrom: Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>
= To: loopers-delight@loopers-d= elight.com
Sent: Mon, N= ovember 1, 2010 11:12:45 PM
Subjec= t: RE: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box

=0A=0AThis look= s cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card though ideally, purely for conveni= ence and portability. Unfortunately the stringport doesn't have windows dri= vers and from what I've been told, won't even run with generic asio4all dri= vers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll have to wait a few months :-(
Ke= ep us posted with your crazy sounds though - are you on the Yahoo MIDI guit= ar group? I'm sure they's enjoy learning what you're about over there in Ir= eland.

Peace

Gareth

=0A
=0AD= ate: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000
Subject: Re: Stringport PC, (was THE= SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED)
From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
To: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com

Gareth, if you're interested = in the stringport, you may be interested in this: http://rick= ygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board

= =0A
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Gareth Wh= ittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
=0A
=0A
Yes, the hardware is = PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jack converter into a large= (ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce my gear footprint.
I'd like to c= heck the noise/distortion figures though, (can't find them on their website= )

Have fun and report back Ted

Gareth

=0A
=0ADate: = Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:12:58 -0400
Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!!<= br>From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I'm pretty sure it's pc-= compatible; the sw is in Max, the connection is usb. it would be too weird = for it not to be

=0A
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, tEd =AE K= iLLiAn <te= dkillian@charter.net> wrote:
=0A
Gareth,

I don't know that it's PC compatible (though = it might be, I don't know).

You should read up on that.

I rec= eived mine about a week ago but have been too busy with work and family to = delve into it much.

I need fewer distraction right now.

I'll = post about it when I can.

Best,

Ted=0A
=0A
=0A


On Oct 30, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Ga= reth Whittock wrote:

=0A
Hav= e you ordered the stringport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as I'm th= inking of using it on a PC.

Peace

Gareth


Thanks fo= r keep us in the loop.

I'll be posting soon about my adventures with= the StringPort.

Ciao!

Ted





--
Warren
http://www.warr= ensirota.com/
Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota


=09=09 =09 =09=09
=0A

=0A=0A = --0-289213225-1288701113=:97439-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 12:40:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFB4C3BE8C; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=vKNELYa1JgZI40W2efAw1YmvnwQXYVSWSHZPhgMRKFc4ApT7X70e+tgfGwyFm7RgcZKTOVImc6ePa+jz/n2YIf7urTOWWSBXujAkwnx31RAkvlgXx7K5+EMdfCCLEvrc; Message-ID: <20101102074001.a8npkbo1sg848gsc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 07:40:01 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: To Randy Leifer References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>,,<0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net>,,, ,<679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <466063.97439.qm@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <466063.97439.qm@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Hey Randy, If you don't want to be on this listserve, follow the link below and =20 scroll down to find instructions on how to unsubscribe. http://loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html Hope this helps. -- Kevin Quoting Randy Leifer : > no, youb areb sendingb theseb postsb tob theb wrongb addressbnesses. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Gareth Whittock > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 5:23:01 AM > Subject: RE: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box > > Randy, > Keep a civil tongue. That's no way to talk to anyone. > I suggest you sort out your filter directly. > > Gareth > > ________________________________ > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 02:16:00 -0700 > From: redrabbitlosangeles@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > fucking re-address your messages mate > My fucking spam filter has had it with you. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Gareth Whittock > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 11:12:45 PM > Subject: RE: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box > > This looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card though ideally, purely = for > convenience and portability. Unfortunately the stringport doesn't =20 > have windows > drivers and from what I've been told, won't even run with generic asio4all > drivers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll have to wait a few months :-( > Keep us posted with your crazy sounds though - are you on the Yahoo =20 > MIDI guitar > group? I'm sure they's enjoy learning what you're about over there =20 > in Ireland. > > Peace > > Gareth > > ________________________________ > Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000 > Subject: Re: Stringport PC, (was THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED) > From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Gareth, if you're interested in the stringport, you may be =20 > interested in this: > http://rickygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board > > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Gareth Whittock > wrote: > > Yes, the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to jack > converter into a large(ish) soundcard, I was hoping to reduce my =20 > gear footprint. >> I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though, (can't find =20 >> them on their >> website) >> >> Have fun and report back Ted >> >> Gareth >> >> ________________________________ > Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:12:58 -0400 >> Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED!! >> From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> I'm pretty sure it's pc-compatible; the sw is in Max, the =20 >> connection is usb. it >> would be too weird for it not to be >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn =20 >> wrote: >> >> Gareth, >>> >>> I don't know that it's PC compatible (though it might be, I don't know). >>> >>> You should read up on that. >>> >>> I received mine about a week ago but have been too busy with work =20 >>> and family to >>> delve into it much. >>> >>> I need fewer distraction right now. >>> >>> I'll post about it when I can. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Ted >>> >>> >>> On Oct 30, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: >>> >>> >>> Have you ordered the stringport Ted? I'm curious about the interface as = I'm >>> thinking of using it on a PC. >>>> >>>> Peace >>>> >>>> Gareth >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for keep us in the loop. >>>> >>>> I'll be posting soon about my adventures with the StringPort. >>>> >>>> Ciao! >>>> >>>> Ted >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Warren >> http://www.warrensirota.com/ >> Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 13:32:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D5043BE8E; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:32:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3w7YurL1WHpkYgL8axCAxO+zG43OUoc068CqaDTg9G4=; b=FJWmLmm8fVKM1Ti8yMKF3s8a0bVKKAU+Q92HmRJYNW/ZV4c3aozbBwEQeq4U/240Pj AJNUcULNChMcUkxN58p5J5I1W8p8a+koajvrB4mZdHmSo/RmtFOnRUj3qymR4lTAC7vT eTQCSLu3ecTiG1U6Xf/iyHl+qwmpJ2FMFnOIE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NcpVAZzhmLrcS3QqNlGNMlfCfMcRXlQ25qy0ux9weErzQQhvoY6ptOGAQGOQcsYqyT C5YOkOz6apowhFviAcM2q98x7/Tgfi69LdEWTUiKe+glzyQcgA1xqZCfLX/VLgB/Lm5i 5u49ANEB2nrOAf++CvtgNaKfoNka2f0aJpnAI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:32:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6135a6487ae4049411f6c6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:32:55 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6135a6487ae4049411f6c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I only use the delay mode with the DD 20. I tried loop mode once and said nah! All the delays are 23 sec ( 46 sec if you use the insert jack in pan delay trick) Check out the LD pages on it. They describe it far better than I can. http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20.html j On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Christo Jota wrote: > Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be rather done with the > delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can switch > then from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. Attention: > You can NOT switch back to the first used mode > cause the sounds on the first mode will be deleted. That=B4s not so good = with > the DD 20. > The delay modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on ambie= nt > soundscapes. Much better doing these with the > DD 20 than the RC 50. > Nice Day! > Christo > www.christojota.de > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mark Hamburg" > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:17 AM > To: > Subject: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) > > So, I take it you are using one of the delay modes on the DD-20 as oppos= ed >> to the sound-on-sound mode? The description on the BOSS site seemed to >> suggest that the sound-on-sound mode can't go straight into overdub (the >> essential trick to creating seamless drones). >> >> Mark >> >> On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> >> ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I >>> have read what I wrote now). >>> >>> When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will >>> focus on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and B= oomer >>> + can't. >>> >>> I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by tappin= g >>> the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording and set it o= n the >>> fly. I do it both ways. >>> >>> With it off I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the on >>> button to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at whatever I= have >>> set it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter with one tap before I = reach >>> the max that is set or twice to set a longer loop (this is hard to expl= ain >>> but easy to do). This makes it very easy to zero in or correct the loop >>> length in an improv situation. Re triggering the loop length is very >>> important to me. >>> >>> Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a riff >>> or phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite repeats. = Press >>> the effect off button and play over the top. Backing off a bit on the f= b >>> knob so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset and go to the = next >>> slot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length already set and ready to >>> tweak the same way. In the meantime loop 1 is still fading out at whate= ver I >>> have left it set at. And so on through the 5 preset locations.The cavea= t is >>> that after more than one advance it cuts off the first one and you can'= t go >>> back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not really an issue for me. >>> >>> I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth drones >>> always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me being an all i= mprov >>> hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop fading out while bringin= g in >>> another is free and not stiff. >>> >>> I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both >>> worlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't been made t= hat >>> can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase samplers can do th= at >>> (so far). >>> >>> Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a >>> looped phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough= to >>> have some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. No way to adju= st >>> the length/feedback on the fly. >>> >>> I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be the >>> perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this thread >>> about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still need a go= od >>> phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff. >>> >> >> --90e6ba6135a6487ae4049411f6c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I only use the delay mode with the DD 20. I tried loop mode once and said n= ah!

All the delays are 23 sec ( 46 sec if you use the insert jack in= pan delay trick)

Check out the LD pages on it. They describe it far= better than I can.

http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20.html

j


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Ch= risto Jota <ch= ris@christojota.de> wrote:
Creating seamless= drones with the DD 20 should be rather done with the delay modes (put on l= ong feedback) . You can switch
then from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. Attention: Y= ou can NOT switch back to the first used mode
cause the sounds on the first mode will be deleted. That=B4s not so good wi= th the DD 20.
The delay modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on ambient= soundscapes. Much better doing these with the
DD 20 than the RC 50.
Nice Day!
Christo
www.christojota.de<= /a>

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mark Hamburg" <mark@grubmah.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:17 AM
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3)

So, I take it you are using one of the delay modes on the DD-20 as opposed = to the sound-on-sound mode? The description on the BOSS site seemed to sugg= est that the sound-on-sound mode can't go straight into overdub (the es= sential trick to creating seamless drones).

Mark

On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:

ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I h= ave read what I wrote now).

When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will focus= on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + c= an't.

I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by tapping th= e external momentary button. Or I can have it recording =A0and set it on th= e fly. I do it both ways.

With it off =A0I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the on but= ton to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at whatever I have s= et it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter with one tap before I reach= the max that is set or twice to set a longer loop (this is hard to explain= but easy to do). This makes it very easy to zero in or correct the loop le= ngth in an improv situation. Re triggering the loop length is very importan= t to me.

Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a riff or = phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite repeats. Press t= he effect off button and play over the top. Backing off a bit on the fb kno= b so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset and go to the next sl= ot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length already set and ready to t= weak the same way. In the meantime loop 1 is still fading out at whatever I= have left it set at. And so on through the 5 preset locations.The caveat i= s that after more than one advance it cuts off the first one and you can= 9;t go back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not really an issue for me.
I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth drones alw= ays. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me being an all improv h= ard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop fading out while bringing in = another is free and not stiff.

I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both world= s sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't been made th= at can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase samplers can do tha= t (so far).

Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a looped= phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough to ha= ve some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. No way to adjust the= length/feedback on the fly.

=A0I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be the p= erfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this thread abou= t oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still need a good phras= e sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff.


--90e6ba6135a6487ae4049411f6c6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 13:34:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB2913BE8F; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Mark Hamburg X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 06:34:24 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <89A00B10-41A6-4558-9CBA-42DDAA60F122@grubmah.com> References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:34:27 +0000 (UTC) So, just treat the DD-20 as a really long delay line? Can one = tap-play-tap-overdub? I take it that when off, the delay will keep = playing so you can just set feedback to 100% and turn it off to get a = hold effect? Do you have to reach down and grab the feedback knob to = adjust feedback? Mark On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Christo Jota wrote: > Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be rather done with the = delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can switch > then from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. = Attention: You can NOT switch back to the first used mode > cause the sounds on the first mode will be deleted. That=B4s not so = good with the DD 20. > The delay modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on = ambient soundscapes. Much better doing these with the > DD 20 than the RC 50. > Nice Day! > Christo > www.christojota.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 13:42:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A58A13BE92; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=buaFjvAAUsSu3NxgYTWDACqAk8xYW3renUpNfYFT9iw=; b=orqW0ieB0ubPytVe6PUIIRbF2triV5x4n1/MvT9AVMGcBK2hvARWtdOo97mlPvcKSl G96dIgqP1XDtmG4uViyebXnmu2YT2Gcb989VIVZu6KMY7+xj0BNSRtkru52b4cnOjWz5 uyeGerg/PQsjST+ayN59orCF/VmFYsEqEX5Ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nOr6baiSZo/F8BCWVwhH9LaPHaaoWUJf8dhVGyzc1CGHafCg8SBeU1UK12Pp6QnHlo EjpXfR8mWdPg3Rp9h4vUYhsoIdMOMPd3xSSpf3gaepX2XFqJgnWxxkaO0xGYp0XWUMcx TVJVwUGemsXNceH/7HFT6Id42Y1yuiKz3gqAo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <89A00B10-41A6-4558-9CBA-42DDAA60F122@grubmah.com> References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <89A00B10-41A6-4558-9CBA-42DDAA60F122@grubmah.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:42:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba476adf6803e5049412186e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:42:27 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba476adf6803e5049412186e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes that's right. I actually use my toe to operate the feedback knob :) Light socks or barefoot looper here. It's "trails" feature is always on so when you press the effect off it keep= s playing for as long as you have set the feedback knob. This is true even if you switch to the next preset. j On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > So, just treat the DD-20 as a really long delay line? Can one > tap-play-tap-overdub? I take it that when off, the delay will keep playin= g > so you can just set feedback to 100% and turn it off to get a hold effect= ? > Do you have to reach down and grab the feedback knob to adjust feedback? > > Mark > > On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Christo Jota wrote: > > > Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be rather done with the > delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can switch > > then from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. Attentio= n: > You can NOT switch back to the first used mode > > cause the sounds on the first mode will be deleted. That=B4s not so goo= d > with the DD 20. > > The delay modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on > ambient soundscapes. Much better doing these with the > > DD 20 than the RC 50. > > Nice Day! > > Christo > > www.christojota.de > --90e6ba476adf6803e5049412186e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes that's right. I actually use my toe to operate the feedback knob :)= Light socks or barefoot looper here.

It's "trails" fe= ature is always on so when you press the effect off it keeps playing for as= long as you have set the feedback knob. This is true even if you switch to= the next preset.

j

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Mar= k Hamburg <mark@gr= ubmah.com> wrote:
So, just treat the DD-20 as a really long delay line? Can one tap-play-tap-= overdub? I take it that when off, the delay will keep playing so you can ju= st set feedback to 100% and turn it off to get a hold effect? Do you have t= o reach down and grab the feedback knob to adjust feedback?

Mark

On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Christo Jota wrote:

> Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be rather done with the= delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can switch
> then from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. Attenti= on: You can NOT switch back to the first used mode
> cause the sounds on the first mode will be deleted. That=B4s not so go= od with the DD 20.
> The delay modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on am= bient soundscapes. Much better doing these with the
> DD 20 than the RC 50.
> Nice Day!
> Christo
> www.christojot= a.de

--90e6ba476adf6803e5049412186e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 14:46:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A800E3BE8D; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kdon8UKmAAAA:8 a=UYQtU48rt4_UGLmmcocA:9 a=teS2U76BKMZFOOO6ovXjNzIMu-UA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <19B271FA-726D-47D3-982F-F1D27CB07BCA@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 07:46:36 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:46:38 +0000 (UTC) That does look pretty cool. I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delays and filters (the amp models weren't too bad either). I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds. This changes all that. Could be a very useful tool. Now that I am going laptop it's perfect. Thanks for sharing the news. On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Tony K wrote: > http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.html > > Whoo Hooo! > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 15:21:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9DA83BE8E; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CBGcOlbqahiNfipk+XpEO5FgN1SD1JXIr3vzJ6bbHFk=; b=jT4/b8yBbP0xZ9xVKJe7WqEcWzwxl3xDGqu03sIDBq5UdrTQAop2KTkUxcb+cVoHYX qbo+OK8xXd0fZ55uLa261588dUU/Nk/48SeqfncbiK+C3aMccwonuIYwthNHX3uF9RKy nIfYH0IWwy9CRJyqbGJGYsa669pWnXbr+XEZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aTTWM7SXJKOQPYRZvO5wd2ll/DhLEKBRpjzoLosvdYGvAIPeE0UfEDPkG6NgCl2XVi 7QCfi3XYuI/34KYa0XMjYb6Jb3LXb8kV0qwUFT/VSnuteP61KRfs0O9DvhSjJWO1qla1 0ZKqBSKQKAFsO37z0BNZ8z4vyC76O5U2D98x4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19B271FA-726D-47D3-982F-F1D27CB07BCA@charter.net> References: <19B271FA-726D-47D3-982F-F1D27CB07BCA@charter.net> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 08:21:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3043475a0662c20494137a09 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:21:20 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3043475a0662c20494137a09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Ted, Be sure to check out the free PC VST glitch: http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/ It's great for beat synced effects. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:46 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wro= te: > That does look pretty cool. > > I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delays a= nd > filters (the amp models weren't too bad either). > > I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds. > > This changes all that. > > Could be a very useful tool. > > Now that I am going laptop it's perfect. > > Thanks for sharing the news. > > > On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Tony K wrote: > > http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.html >> >> Whoo Hooo! >> >> -- >> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- >> Tony >> > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --20cf3043475a0662c20494137a09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Ted,

Be sure to check out the free PC VST glitch:
http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/<= /a>

It's great for beat synced effects.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:46 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> = wrote:
That does look pretty cool.

I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delays= and filters (the amp models weren't too bad either).

I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds.

This changes all that.

Could be a very useful tool.

Now that I am going laptop it's perfect.

Thanks for sharing the news.


On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Tony K wrote:

http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync= /index.html

Whoo Hooo!

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--20cf3043475a0662c20494137a09-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 16:04:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DAE13BE8D; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1805 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:04:14 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.5 X-EN-IMPSID: SFa71f00906ZpSa0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 08:33:59 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box In-Reply-To: <466063.97439.qm@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net> <679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <466063.97439.qm@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20101102160414.D4FBE3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6qKDJ.A.P5C.-ZD0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:04:15 +0000 (UTC) you're gonna have a bit of a problem typing unsubscribe with all those extra b's... At 2010/11/02 05:31 AM, Randy Leifer wrote: >no, youb areb sendingb theseb postsb tob theb wrongb addressbnesses. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 16:30:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BC0C3BE8F; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=k+jneFxk5VjXvn9EvFpgD9VfGpK2FQPGu2EYdIHfOrU=; b=evaU8AQQ6fCDIjBq3+YiiKN7Z9gPEFcssjzmHOX3Dej+Y0LQEioUK9qQzx2A6KWziJ H3krJHlRJWu2VSYeohiIBoljknNc0qJTsBmVyqVX3TD+SKZ80XGSEUnE5Env8eHqj07L WFzTXwKE1islee9TSzemqkmBMMsdo2mBLXAy0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HMe2IrmrMWMK681ilBExvsig2EzJJDpFe77c2VnrT6z9GmDktdeO+Z0pSonmQncdNb Ibw6pEmUpAElMFbb19EIQj7vwtS7m4Bry6qVpHPtNPKQ6ntwXC9TVcseEet3kGN95ljM yYQ01B1nG/5cLdx92GKZq57R2RAbZ4l2ZnDzU= Message-ID: <4CD03C88.4090603@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:30:00 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping with a drummer References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters schrieb: > What are your experiences of rhythmic guitar looping in a band - what is the > best way to keep the drummer synced to the loop that you create? do you use > a predefined click, something like a Ableton backing track - or do you set > the loop timing by foot and leave it to the drummer to stay synced with it? > do you give him headphones or just point some speaker towards him? > There's some general approaches which are possible, this is some stream of consciousness in rather unordered fashion. 0. The general background: I understand it's about keeping a live group in sync with some realtime loops. This is possible in two main ways: a) the musicians sync to the loops, b) the loops sync to the musicians (automatically or manually). 1. musicians syncing to loops: This is not so much a tech topic than a musician topic. Generally, you can have all musicians listening to the loop and playing according to it, or one musician (e.g. the drummer) listening and playing to the loop, and the other musicians playing in time with that first musician. This may require to turn up the loop in the monitor mix louder than you would ordinarily do (for one or all musicians). To circumvent a problem that this can have a negative effect on the audience experience, I suggest headphones (but I always do suggest them, simply because it makes playing so much more relaxing and less tiresome). 2. loops syncing to musician(s): a) manually: you know how it works - one musician retriggers the loops and possibly adjusts the tempo by tapping. The tempo adjustment requires a looper which can do that. b) automatically: For that, you need to extract tempo information from what the musicians play (usually the drummer) and then sync the loop to it. A lot of the time, this has a tendency not to work. 3. personal experiences: In the past, I have tried it either way. Option 2a has the huge advantage that basically everyone except for the loop operator can play without considering the loop at all, and this is very desirable for a lot of musical styles. 2b, as I said, will only work properly in some cases, and typically requires e.g. the drummer to play a pre-defined beat. 1 will result in the band playing synced to the loop - which may or may not be a wanted result. The differences come out the most if you (accidentally or not) get the loop length inaccurately. Say, you're recording a 4-bar phrase (in the tempo the band is playing), but end the loop 1/16 note too early. If you use option 1, this will result in the band playing a 3-bar and 15/16th phrase from then on (assuming oldskool 4/4 for now...). If you use option 2a, this will result in a stutter at the beginning of each phrase (the first 16th of the loop is played twice due to the manual retriggering). For option 2b, depending on how the looper works, this will either result in retriggering (as in 2a), but may also result in an odd 63/64 polyrythm. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 17:00:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1DE33BE8E; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1288717255; l=5334; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:To: From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=5wTvppza7DEsSy/qzStSm4rVcEc=; b=j21FstvYOyqIw+im6U+Q1jzgbEEUrbOuN0idiV4Em3xrcqhagFpczAGrLHkotIiOwCi qfX2V7BVM5JspSsEL57ABQreoVF98whKn+ihZ3BjFx2fb2xEU6x9Lev2yAliYhQ7TIQn2 7MpfTefcDtstu4uiy2GEEruPcSuNJGdstyA= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWjBOblRsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan><4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com><89A00B10-41A6-4558-9CBA-42DDAA60F122@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:58:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0177_01CB7AB7.82324ED0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CB7AB7.82324ED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff is right. It=B4s really good this way. Didn=B4t know the 46 sec trick that he mentioned. Have to check that... But can=B4t find it in the archive. Does anyone no more about it? Christo From: Jeff Duke=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) Yes that's right. I actually use my toe to operate the feedback knob :) = Light socks or barefoot looper here. It's "trails" feature is always on so when you press the effect off it = keeps playing for as long as you have set the feedback knob. This is = true even if you switch to the next preset.=20 j On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: So, just treat the DD-20 as a really long delay line? Can one = tap-play-tap-overdub? I take it that when off, the delay will keep = playing so you can just set feedback to 100% and turn it off to get a = hold effect? Do you have to reach down and grab the feedback knob to = adjust feedback? Mark On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Christo Jota wrote: > Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be rather done with = the delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can switch > then from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. = Attention: You can NOT switch back to the first used mode > cause the sounds on the first mode will be deleted. That=B4s not so = good with the DD 20. > The delay modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on = ambient soundscapes. Much better doing these with the > DD 20 than the RC 50. > Nice Day! > Christo > www.christojota.de ------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CB7AB7.82324ED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeff is right. It=B4s really good this = way.
Didn=B4t know the 46 sec trick that he=20 mentioned.
Have to check that... But can=B4t find it in = the=20 archive.
Does anyone no more about it?
Christo

From: Jeff Duke
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:42 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3)

Yes that's right. I actually use my toe to operate the = feedback=20 knob :) Light socks or barefoot looper here.

It's "trails" = feature is=20 always on so when you press the effect off it keeps playing for as long = as you=20 have set the feedback knob. This is true even if you switch to the next = preset.=20

j

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Mark Hamburg = <mark@grubmah.com>=20 wrote:
So, just treat the DD-20 as a really long delay = line? Can=20 one tap-play-tap-overdub? I take it that when off, the delay will keep = playing=20 so you can just set feedback to 100% and turn it off to get a hold = effect? Do=20 you have to reach down and grab the feedback knob to adjust=20 feedback?

Mark

On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Christo Jota=20 wrote:

> Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be = rather=20 done with the delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can = switch
> then=20 from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. Attention: = You can=20 NOT switch back to the first used mode
> cause the sounds on the = first=20 mode will be deleted. That=B4s not so good with the DD 20.
> The = delay=20 modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on ambient = soundscapes.=20 Much better doing these with the
> DD 20 than the RC 50.
> = Nice=20 Day!
> Christo
> www.christojota.de

<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CB7AB7.82324ED0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 17:32:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26FE03BE8C; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9ahWRrUC1Gq1Py9/hGkSNbMUIzUqdrEVOMAwV6Oxna8=; b=KY+ejO5qYY2uFris7c7s7HaVNByUm+CiSpwmnh49qWoytztuB3In6QQV7xRlptU9zl giArlhBGzHNusD77g4DEiOgmnw/zWsT/fGmggjG0nttNLAt0pnoeO16yM89wr8AA2rEU u4BtrHxcXN+tiKkFHUf5Zc3Dq/9yThHoxj3fk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=m0OGMQqedf5x1ufnn75xtum3Ie2wh7DIcoxGjzlJ1mUuoXh9oxFXXp9XYLlirV2zmd YA+HpwiGQmsYu+YnUQJCaDvCJEcvKoX4BimRsSjPkaE54S1iPPKTqsqTycFNfdvNh9mi 2rk2dqsbFU9Ckg2hZpc6Jm6v/MTdGiWUTlzq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <89A00B10-41A6-4558-9CBA-42DDAA60F122@grubmah.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:32:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8ee68383cb0494154d14 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:32:04 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8ee68383cb0494154d14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Read all about it! http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20_review1.html j On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Christo Jota wrote: > Jeff is right. It=B4s really good this way. > Didn=B4t know the 46 sec trick that he mentioned. > Have to check that... But can=B4t find it in the archive. > Does anyone no more about it? > Christo > > *From:* Jeff Duke > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:42 PM > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) > > Yes that's right. I actually use my toe to operate the feedback knob :) > Light socks or barefoot looper here. > > It's "trails" feature is always on so when you press the effect off it > keeps playing for as long as you have set the feedback knob. This is true > even if you switch to the next preset. > > j > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > >> So, just treat the DD-20 as a really long delay line? Can one >> tap-play-tap-overdub? I take it that when off, the delay will keep playi= ng >> so you can just set feedback to 100% and turn it off to get a hold effec= t? >> Do you have to reach down and grab the feedback knob to adjust feedback? >> >> Mark >> >> On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Christo Jota wrote: >> >> > Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be rather done with the >> delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can switch >> > then from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. >> Attention: You can NOT switch back to the first used mode >> > cause the sounds on the first mode will be deleted. That=B4s not so go= od >> with the DD 20. >> > The delay modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on >> ambient soundscapes. Much better doing these with the >> > DD 20 than the RC 50. >> > Nice Day! >> > Christo >> > www.christojota.de >> > > --90e6ba6e8ee68383cb0494154d14 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Read all about it! http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossD= D20_review1.html

j

On Tue, Nov= 2, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Christo Jota <chris@christojota.de> wrote:
Jeff is right. It=B4s really good this way.
Didn=B4t know the 46 sec trick that he=20 mentioned.
Have to check that... But can=B4t find it in th= e=20 archive.
Does anyone no more about it?
Christo

Yes that's right. I actually use my toe to operate the f= eedback=20 knob :) Light socks or barefoot looper here.

It's "trails&q= uot; feature is=20 always on so when you press the effect off it keeps playing for as long as = you=20 have set the feedback knob. This is true even if you switch to the next pre= set.=20

j

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Mark Hamburg <ma= rk@grubmah.com>=20 wrote:
So, just treat th= e DD-20 as a really long delay line? Can=20 one tap-play-tap-overdub? I take it that when off, the delay will keep pl= aying=20 so you can just set feedback to 100% and turn it off to get a hold effect= ? Do=20 you have to reach down and grab the feedback knob to adjust=20 feedback?

Mark

On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Christo Jota=20 wrote:

> Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be rath= er=20 done with the delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can switch
>= then=20 from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. Attention: You = can=20 NOT switch back to the first used mode
> cause the sounds on the fi= rst=20 mode will be deleted. That=B4s not so good with the DD 20.
> The de= lay=20 modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on ambient soundsc= apes.=20 Much better doing these with the
> DD 20 than the RC 50.
> Ni= ce=20 Day!
> Christo
> www.christojota.de


--90e6ba6e8ee68383cb0494154d14-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 17:34:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70CA03BE94; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:34:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 12:32:25 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2010 17:33:16.0613 (UTC) FILETIME=[08899F50:01CB7AB4] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:34:43 +0000 (UTC) > On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I have read what I wrote now). Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play rather than what you have played? > When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will focus on what it can do that > a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + can't. Let me see if I can list the features you'd like to add to a traditional looper. Please correct this list. 1) Loops can fade in and out independently of one another. 2) Stacking (overdub) can be active during fades 3) Each loop can have a unique decay setting 4) A loop's decay setting can be changed at any time 5) Loops can be shortened or extended while playing 6) ? > I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by tapping the external momentary > button. Or I can have it recording and set it on the fly. I do it both ways. > > With it off I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the on button to begin > playing/recording. Feedback is already on at whatever I have set it for. I can re tap the loop > length shorter with one tap before I reach the max that is set or twice to set a longer loop (this > is hard to explain but easy to do). This makes it very easy to zero in or correct the loop length > in an improv situation. Re triggering the loop length is very important to me. > > Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a riff or phrase going, turn the > FB knob all the way up for infinite repeats. Press the effect off button and play over the top. > Backing off a bit on the fb knob so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset and go to the > next slot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length already set and ready to tweak the same way. > In the meantime loop 1 is still fading out at whatever I have left it set at. And so on through > the 5 preset locations.The caveat is that after more than one advance it cuts off the first one > and you can't go back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not really an issue for me. > > I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth drones always. It is a very free, > expressive way to loop for me being an all improv hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop > fading out while bringing in another is free and not stiff. > > I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both worlds sort of :) The thing > is that delays can't or haven't been made that can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only > phrase samplers can do that (so far). > > Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a looped phrase with no way out > except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough to have some kind of feedback control or just stop it > cold. No way to adjust the length/feedback on the fly. > > I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be the perfect replacement for > my 2880 which is what I had started this thread about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks > headroom!!! I still need a good phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff. -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 18:17:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 235233BE89; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vK2hwSVN0HMEeaF8e97i4Z5S6zJLyKF4wpJkUFpnHOY=; b=Z7M1YjxTtDfN2Q/91K+hkrFtS99jHtOWtd+tGCWxAu+rZv0eXajLb22Q6yGOOhDTpe 5vqrIdwAehlF6tq43fDeMwO/P229R2htgQAelvCQWxg0snBcVzLFGZVX0n6huyWKj6wm E656Rmuhg7BnG5aAwPSuQQ2Tc/GCtrTNltunE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XY27CcpxT6IETNXB8uc1ge/yRrRTmm/TkMnLZ6GERHl2PJ3iE5LfdKTni7BnZYmWod vImkbgSEXxISwFdPwDUjA7TdV6N4s6IH4iL1xTmUBKDdpo6/ZHqinz3wg916XiL6RNne JtMcvpzQCKnZAc3NGvwG0KrXFgIvLMdC8AjF4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:17:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6135a66279d8049415f03d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:17:36 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6135a66279d8049415f03d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 " Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play rather than what you have played?" I don't really follow you here! A delay only repeats what I play into it....? Yes to all features! Setting up 3-4 separate stereo loops with different fade/reverse/octave and then being able to switch among them for further tweaking=heaven! j On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Mike wrote: > On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> >> ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the >> future. (I have read what I wrote now). >> > > Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play rather > than what you have played? > > When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... >> I will focus on what it can do that >> a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + can't. >> > > Let me see if I can list the features you'd like to add to a > traditional looper. Please correct this list. > > 1) Loops can fade in and out independently of one another. > 2) Stacking (overdub) can be active during fades > 3) Each loop can have a unique decay setting > 4) A loop's decay setting can be changed at any time > 5) Loops can be shortened or extended while playing > 6) ? > > >snip > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > --90e6ba6135a66279d8049415f03d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable " Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play rather tha= n what you have played?"

I don't really follow you here! A = delay only repeats what I play into it....?

Yes to all features! Set= ting up 3-4 separate stereo loops with different fade/reverse/octave and th= en being able to switch among them for further tweaking=3Dheaven!

j

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Mik= e <mnels= on@boomerangmusic.com> wrote:
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of ti= me from the future. (I have read what I wrote now).

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play r= ather than what you have played?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0When using a long delay for looping such as the Bos= s DD 20.... I will focus on what it can do that
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + c= an't.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Let me see if I can list the features you'd like to add= to a traditional looper. Please correct this list.

1) Loops can fade in and out independently of one another.
2) Stacking (overdub) can be active during fades
3) Each loop can have a unique decay setting
4) A loop's decay setting can be changed at any time
5) Loops can be shortened or extended while playing
6) ?

=A0
>snip
--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
=A0Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

----------

1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax

http://www.boom= erangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX =A076209
hardesty@minds= pring.com
940-382-3253

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX =A076099-3788

--90e6ba6135a66279d8049415f03d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 18:25:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD76A3BE8E; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=U8ALWLgzWpzliHodd/D1l1qTZ5dAUXVcXslk/XTxxns=; b=GKaPfdT4G2h0I1hzIyujjK2tgDSKwjVMe4skCJyyH/5R4X1jwao4XvszWvDAau+xWe DW7YL2V0He9jcC+vRD53FFSUO/cfpqEhIHIZI6ouKKV+sxjSZgHcKmjWux7tTmW3TuPH fIeBrqle7rXFODN0IQDNbVzBn5wajjHIiDyZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QAKp2waepPVGiX9bvAIG3gupnYKx5nWrEqWhzlcss/kMDuL8G8EMZIqqU9UJKCmCjJ LI/W2R8V7CtfJZWrZOB3j1JDuYt+QbxwlhCOINDWNq13pA4P33fd2wTPTmL1G/HvGzdp LXFvaz9+DQI2mMrhI65xeCcDt0xTjalbpAYZs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:25:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in NYtimes..//boomerang 3... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7c71fa445f0494160ba9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:25:19 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7c71fa445f0494160ba9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i just read a review of Eno's new album in the NYtimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/arts/music/02choice.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=brian%20eno&st=cse good review, i think it's articles like this that majority of non-musicians in the world will hear of "looping" article talks about eno using loops to create his music, how he champions the ambient backgrounds we associate w/ film music, etc... the interesting thing i thought, is that he created this album w/ a dj ( Jon Hopkins) & a guitarist (Leo Abrahams), in various studios and then sounds like he manipulated stuff after-wards.... in one of the posts on The Gear Page, there has been discussion on the "decline of music (or guitar) mags" in recent yrs, and i was thinking, hmmm, it would be interesting to read interviews w/ the 2 who worked w/ eno in the studio on this....sounds like they did lots of improvs to create the pieces....of course, if they ask lame questions like "what kind of strings did you use?", kind of hard to get ideas of their process from this.... ---- on the boomerang 3 debate, i believe that Henry Kaiser uses one for his loops on the "Art of the Stompbox" DVD. he doesn't really go into it too much but he does some looping stuff w/ Nels Cline (Nels uses his old EH16ddl)...HK launches into stuff pretty easy w/ it, i know when he did his instructional dvd back in early 90s, i think he used his Eventide H3000 for looping stuff....he doesn't compare or contrast the stuff, but it looks pretty seamless & easy from what he's doing, use-wise....and i know he seems to really favor pretty clean sounds nowadays...even his fuzz use sounds clean to me.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen * * --0016364c7c71fa445f0494160ba9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i just read a review of Eno's new album in the NYtimes:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02= /arts/music/02choice.html?_r=3D1&scp=3D2&sq=3Dbrian%20eno&st=3D= cse

good review, i think it's articles like this that majority of non-m= usicians in the world will hear of "looping"
article talks abo= ut eno using loops to create his music, how he champions the ambient backgr= ounds we associate w/ film music, etc...

the interesting thing i thought, is that he created this album w/ a dj = ( Jon Hopkins) & a guitarist (Leo Abrahams), in various studios
and = then sounds like he manipulated stuff after-wards....

in one of the = posts on The Gear Page, there has been discussion on the "decline of m= usic (or guitar) mags" in recent yrs, and i was thinking,
hmmm, it would be interesting to read interviews w/ the 2 who worked w/ eno= in the studio on this....sounds like they did lots of improvs to
create= the pieces....of course, if they ask lame questions like "what kind o= f strings did you use?", kind of hard to get ideas of their process fr= om this....
----
on the boomerang 3 debate, i believe that Henry Kaiser uses one for= his loops on the "Art of the Stompbox" DVD. he doesn't reall= y go into it too much
but he does some looping stuff w/ Nels Cline (Nels= uses his old EH16ddl)...HK launches into stuff pretty easy w/ it, i know w= hen he did his instructional dvd
back in early 90s, i think he used his Eventide H3000 for looping stuff....= he doesn't compare or contrast the stuff, but it looks pretty seamless = & easy from
what he's doing, use-wise....and i know he seems to = really favor pretty clean sounds nowadays...even his fuzz use sounds clean = to me....

s---
www.myspace.com/= scotthansen

 --0016364c7c71fa445f0494160ba9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 18:30:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD2183BE8C; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <4CD03C88.4090603@googlemail.com> Subject: RE: Looping with a drummer Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:29:34 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4CD03C88.4090603@googlemail.com> Thread-Index: Act6ukJH3xm0UH8KRCe5Q62OG3xHawAAXO+g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.4.86; VDF: 7.10.13.77) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:30:13 +0000 (UTC) > There's some general approaches which are possible, this is some stream of consciousness in rather unordered fashion. thanks Rainer (and everybody). I need the "musicians syncing to loops" version I think. Will give it a try soon and report back. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 18:39:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76E1B3BE8C; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:39:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=qXqxAhAYhhxM j7QQkjAGnlxf6DE=; b=KKxcSvqqPowaQV6GxL3Ew+s3Dr4hzyxdC0EOCwAK+Y/Z cg7sk5iTHhw1wgt0Yb8nyU7i5CYdeaXmuxr0lOr34qTekna480jUiY+U8hi1bkQ5 4W6gd29oN4e06NGtNzwQo0zb7wxZ+EK7BpOeGxcjxAiZp15zEMgwvIWMa3I848Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=message-id:date :from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sasl; b=hbkjJI XWLt6a7eBbWPR/WPFsv8GXWTultDWnIb5newI77SufNQMZgJ8r38BUqQVgL0UBta BBxAuK3RyiMxg7PETHrWjBY2MibA1Ilr9exy0nZnPBdGXp0P3uZ7wwjr8pykqD+Y A1cyr9L+3FjEUy8RPXZq8iH57yXszkl4gJ8DQ= Message-ID: <4CD05AD3.9060703@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 13:39:15 -0500 From: "jimp@pobox.com" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net> <679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <466063.97439.qm@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20101102160414.D4FBE3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20101102160414.D4FBE3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 7FD936C0-E6B0-11DF-BCB6-A167C76EB067-07196044!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:39:18 +0000 (UTC) heyb fatb albertb, usubscribeb On 11/2/2010 10:33 AM, Sean Echevarria wrote: > you're gonna have a bit of a problem typing unsubscribe with all those > extra b's... > > At 2010/11/02 05:31 AM, Randy Leifer wrote: >> no, youb areb sendingb theseb postsb tob theb wrongb addressbnesses. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 18:48:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACB153BE8D; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:48:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD05C77.8020409@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 13:46:15 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2010 18:46:57.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[53725D90:01CB7ABE] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:48:04 +0000 (UTC) On 02-Nov-10 1:17 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > " Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play rather than what you have played?" > > I don't really follow you here! A delay only repeats what I play into it....? Twas a joke in response to "Sorry ahead of time from the future." > Yes to all features! Setting up 3-4 separate stereo loops with different fade/reverse/octave and then being > able to switch among them for further tweaking=heaven! > > j > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Mike > wrote: > > On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I have read what I > wrote now). > > > Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play rather than what you have played? > > When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will focus on what it can > do that > a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + can't. > > > Let me see if I can list the features you'd like to add to a traditional looper. Please correct > this list. > > 1) Loops can fade in and out independently of one another. > 2) Stacking (overdub) can be active during fades > 3) Each loop can have a unique decay setting > 4) A loop's decay setting can be changed at any time > 5) Loops can be shortened or extended while playing > 6) ? -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 18:54:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 070A83BE93; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jNVG6We7m0NTw/NlSp+MZmrnqJ9RoGetLbCYm65c6xM=; b=RNFAsYgpCTAOc66RcJovxOzolYdU145xh2vm2d259b1oXquQh7nBHnWD6rww+uZNSQ AOK0fDfVkAJUfoju/y2nxWG4xGbKMuxY/vMMDVcyerFPoxAan1YbgTl0UVr3OHGedVN8 1lg22CUX8uCaOnerw2JfxyK34fKlhwSX47p2w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bjG4JSkfOSr/rn++BVRF0kVww2OdFJersn9UkfBfqdBNEAuVat5Ncu0tYkd0SKYwjG qgTv6jJLiYqmRqewzEz+UOpMATaqCxVXhoIof6hpbrzQiHJsT4Y+Cu55cBnfXWgFdICS HHd1KrZgoUU0bGyWIQhP3quRo/Q4BBkdBhso4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CD05C77.8020409@boomerangmusic.com> References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD05C77.8020409@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:54:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e83a0929c030494167301 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:54:16 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e83a0929c030494167301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ha! Actually that is what I always wanted but was afraid to ask for :) We used to do a looping bit with pre recorded loops simulating that. Kind of freaked people out at times. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Mike wrote: > > > On 02-Nov-10 1:17 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> " Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play rather than >> what you have played?" >> >> I don't really follow you here! A delay only repeats what I play into >> it....? >> > > Twas a joke in response to "Sorry ahead of time from the future." > > Yes to all features! Setting up 3-4 separate stereo loops with different >> fade/reverse/octave and then being >> able to switch among them for further tweaking=heaven! >> >> j >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Mike > mnelson@boomerangmusic.com>> wrote: >> >> On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> >> ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from >> the future. (I have read what I >> wrote now). >> >> >> Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play >> rather than what you have played? >> >> When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD >> 20.... I will focus on what it can >> do that >> a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + >> can't. >> >> >> Let me see if I can list the features you'd like to add to a >> traditional looper. Please correct >> this list. >> >> 1) Loops can fade in and out independently of one another. >> 2) Stacking (overdub) can be active during fades >> 3) Each loop can have a unique decay setting >> 4) A loop's decay setting can be changed at any time >> 5) Loops can be shortened or extended while playing >> 6) ? >> > > > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > --90e6ba6e83a0929c030494167301 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ha! Actually that is what I always wanted but was afraid to ask for :) We u= sed to do a looping bit with pre recorded loops simulating that. Kind of fr= eaked people out at times.

On Tue, Nov 2,= 2010 at 2:46 PM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com> wrote:


On 02-Nov-10 1:17 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:
" Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play rather tha= n what you have played?"

I don't really follow you here! A delay only repeats what I play into i= t....?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Twas a joke in response to "Sorry ahead of time from t= he future."

Yes to all features! Setting up 3-4 separate stereo loops with different fa= de/reverse/octave and then being
able to switch among them for further tweaking=3Dheaven!

j

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com <mailto:mnelson@boomer= angmusic.com>> wrote:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote= :

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... S= orry ahead of time from the future. (I have read what I
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0wrote now).


=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Are you using a delay that repeats what you going t= o play rather than what you have played?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0When using a long delay for looping= such as the Boss DD 20.... I will focus on what it can
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0do that
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M= 9 and Boomer + can't.


=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Let me see if I can list the features you'd lik= e to add to a traditional looper. Please correct
=A0 =A0this list.

=A0 =A01) Loops can fade in and out independently of one another.
=A0 =A02) Stacking (overdub) can be active during fades
=A0 =A03) Each loop can have a unique decay setting
=A0 =A04) A loop's decay setting can be changed at any time
=A0 =A05) Loops can be shortened or extended while playing
=A0 =A06) ?


--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
=A0Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

----------

1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax

http://www.boom= erangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX =A076209
hardesty@minds= pring.com
940-382-3253

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX =A076099-3788

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--20cf301d3d9c33261d049416764d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 19:08:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 570873BED0; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ChKqJIumEPkOq/QLoZjPjTDAx8vUHeC01Ffnl5STSdI=; b=AG6lkgIKwEv8tLMR65UV3ywAVu+jiHFE0U7k9Osxb7tR6jZWdR8yTWyFCRoTK6LYZM J1dCne2ac6U7o++GRHZjyZtYt068Hj89rB2cuWyFJOY8fynHqj2q96VFrC3oVRd1qpQC gPyrSWfnC0v/30ZxDgjxQW7z1EhPeSY1Iuup4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HVmKcEweB3pPaeiM6u/1EXK+rx/R1z3KUxEQ+ie2CW2slrYQKMhAtEGTgWGXFctiQk qgtsqFpRkklyXJW31rcwwPCvJQu3NAXe//EbNgw4GcUa966zqQVAuEUDMboD3Gf/4q4Z ogWH/mcqGctAXg4w/gwu//h93du8/Y5rwIKng= Message-ID: <4CD061A3.9030501@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:08:19 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stringport PC, and Ricky's box References: <1682849028.202177.1288395727832.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <0F0D7C25-AD7B-4A25-A584-D4262E473AEF@charter.net> <679548.87206.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <466063.97439.qm@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20101102160414.D4FBE3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> <4CD05AD3.9060703@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <4CD05AD3.9060703@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Best laugh of my day. appreciated, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > heyb fatb albertb, usubscribeb From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 19:21:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA7E03BE99; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Bfp50jeIeDwXJqrQ1uIR3FYilh2AbQlg82PGhRMS3ns=; b=hZt7po2He7r5RWzWH4YLy1P7letaIKYjggfSvLpeJkkO4qXROMgZ8ZqU4E3xALpwAg f58ab3b1qRxtF3RQ2L6K2V83aF3sV2/U1y4UNnVokbAwh6mns1avU11wJBwB5Vy/xSv3 67vP8O/LeJQiS2KwnDWKRs5y5ebA/+e3etVlU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TnRRgpI6CfX1Fvt9hIGTj/sxzuvxDvHUwmxr13LTy2tC4tTrf8BlmG/5SgNcH93Yy7 PUB6Sddtp6wkqGo5c2zlrZYAXb9DqiKkVuX0Ccaj2Cpbgq4nAmx6hGz2x8xTI9SSuUqq npwgbG4a32vXsLTiJ0ULvWljulwz7rRIz298A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CD03C88.4090603@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:21:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping with a drummer From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d977455d9903049416d45c Resent-Message-ID: <9rgMWC.A.qxG.xSG0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:21:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d977455d9903049416d45c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ...last minute suggestion. I've tried both approach in different musical contest and I'd say that it depends by the players (expecially the drummer) ability to "stay in the loop" and by the kind of loops you are going to play. My leatest personal experience was with my jazz-rock band: we had tons of tech stuff on the stage and odd time signatures pieces to play, so even if the drummer is really a good one we ended up with an earphone metronome for the drummer. An RC-50 started the songs and the midi click - the midi click was sent to a very cheap midi sequencer (where were previously set the songs) connected via earphone to the drummer. I'd stay un-synched and check if the drummer and the "looper" can work together and if it fails, just set-up a metronome for the drummer. You can easily do it in bidule: search on the internet for a metronome plugin to be connected to the bidule "transport bar" and send the metronome click sound just to the phone channel of your audio interface and it's done. fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2010/11/2 Michael Peters > > There's some general approaches which are possible, this is some stream > of > consciousness in rather unordered fashion. > > thanks Rainer (and everybody). I need the "musicians syncing to loops" > version I think. Will give it a try soon and report back. > > -Michael > > --0016e6d977455d9903049416d45c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
...last minute suggestion.
I've tried both approach in different musical contest and I'd = say that it depends by the players (expecially the drummer) ability to &quo= t;stay in the loop" and by the kind of loops you are going to play.
My leatest personal experience was with my jazz-rock band: we had tons= of=A0tech stuff=A0on the stage and odd time signatures pieces to play, so = even if the drummer is really a good one we ended up with an earphone metro= nome for the drummer.
An RC-50 started the songs and the midi click - the midi click was sen= t to a very cheap midi sequencer (where were previously set the songs) conn= ected via earphone to the drummer.
=A0
I'd stay un-synched and check if the drummer and the "looper&= quot; can=A0work together and if it fails, just set-up a metronome for the = drummer.
You can easily do it in bidule: search on the internet=A0for a metrono= me plugin to be connected to the bidule "transport bar" and send = the metronome click sound just to the phone channel of your audio interface= and it's done.
=A0
fabio
=A0


=A0
2010/11/2 Michael Peters <<= a href=3D"mailto:mp@mpeters.de">mp@mpeters.de>
> There's some general approaches which are possib= le, this is some stream of
consciousness in rather unordered fashion.
thanks Rainer (and everybody). I need the "musicians syncin= g to loops"
version I think. Will give it a try soon and report back.

-Michael


--0016e6d977455d9903049416d45c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 19:35:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B6EF3BE87; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=6p60lzq7AAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=kdon8UKmAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=nTUopK4ELqnhI0NWWLAA:9 a=b6rXhv6_WabA2i1uSlAA:7 a=td0xfghgaJ9JvZM0jJawBC-dHCwA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hV8R9rX1nxoA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4q5bYJQ4CjW_x_5UUskA:9 a=pkl2CC-R2IZ4LoL_ws8A:7 a=OFeQnWIqfbkQYeljSA2hCtfnTi8A:4 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:35:16 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <10837145.610484.1288726520431.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_610467_372920739.1288726516530" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 42 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Resent-Message-ID: <0s42UC.A.9CH.5fG0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:35:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_610467_372920739.1288726516530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Unfortunately I am strictly a Mac guy. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Art Simon wrote: Hey Ted, Be sure to check out the free PC VST glitch: http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/=20 It's great for beat synced effects. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:46 AM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn < tedkillian@charter.net= =20 >=20 wrote: That does look pretty cool. I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delays=20 and filters (the amp models weren't too bad either). I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds. This changes all that. Could be a very useful tool. Now that I am going laptop it's perfect. Thanks for sharing the news.=20 On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Tony K wrote: http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.html=20 Whoo Hooo! --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com=20 myspace [dot] com/artsimon ------=_Part_610467_372920739.1288726516530 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Unfortunately I am strictly a Mac guy.

On Tue, Nov 2, = 2010 at 8:21 AM, Art Simon wrote:

 Hey Ted,
Be sure to check ou= t the free PC VST glitch:
http://ill= formed.org/plugins/glitch/
It's great for beat= synced effects.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:46 AM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn < tedkillian@charter.net> = wrote:
That does look pretty co= ol.

I've = owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delays and filt= ers (the amp models weren't too bad either).

I just **hated ** the interface and the= canned drum sounds.

This changes all that.

Could be a very useful tool.

Now that I am going laptop= it's perfect.

Thanks for sharing the news.


On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Tony K wrote: =


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------=_Part_610467_372920739.1288726516530-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 20:01:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7AE13BE92; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O2kLaa1Nb6csO5VXNUR/vhYhep55aK5CqjiDKs7N6Pw=; b=stTTpw/bRymhK3Touyoit1EpKNCYGcJVhetHR0FgmXZId9W2EEmVN5+2qZnYNIsNyL LzwL0UhNN+hcFv81WVhK4oF3vvw/Aj9D9aEnZjCTH32rJVHUxW80hoOQ7drUDdqFMZ24 ACs8leJc1Pzl4Kht0ZfuQrpoK9hTbLBvCVR58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NEpOESnplMoohDlj9BA2RBsLnSpYjyXEC6lp6BohhtXvgFQZcDBi4ZUoS0z4J9aud4 3k5QjNNl4ky4AcWOdKx2s5bGuiRkpW/SrujEwwET5fmEdM9RjeHOUpuCLm5bjhJzBtV9 oLon4wkAxc1MFjK3cLTctuRXh4GcBXSorhYdo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CD05C77.8020409@boomerangmusic.com> References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD05C77.8020409@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:01:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d3d9c464f5d049417632b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:01:18 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301d3d9c464f5d049417632b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not to rush you Mike but, uh, when do you think you'll have my dream delay/looper ready for pickup? The Super 'Rang! j http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://improvfriday.ning.com/profile/JeffDuke http://ninjamers.ning.com/profile/JeffDu... http://freeimprovisation.ning.com/profil... http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Mike wrote: > > > On 02-Nov-10 1:17 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> " Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play rather than >> what you have played?" >> >> I don't really follow you here! A delay only repeats what I play into >> it....? >> > > Twas a joke in response to "Sorry ahead of time from the future." > > Yes to all features! Setting up 3-4 separate stereo loops with different >> fade/reverse/octave and then being >> able to switch among them for further tweaking=heaven! >> >> j >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Mike > mnelson@boomerangmusic.com>> wrote: >> >> On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> >> ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from >> the future. (I have read what I >> wrote now). >> >> >> Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play >> rather than what you have played? >> >> When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD >> 20.... I will focus on what it can >> do that >> a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and Boomer + >> can't. >> >> >> Let me see if I can list the features you'd like to add to a >> traditional looper. Please correct >> this list. >> >> 1) Loops can fade in and out independently of one another. >> 2) Stacking (overdub) can be active during fades >> 3) Each loop can have a unique decay setting >> 4) A loop's decay setting can be changed at any time >> 5) Loops can be shortened or extended while playing >> 6) ? >> > > > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > --20cf301d3d9c464f5d049417632b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not to rush you Mike but, uh, when do you think you'll have my dream de= lay/looper ready for pickup? The Super 'Rang!

j


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On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:46 PM= , Mike <= mnelson@boomerangmusic.com> wrote:


On 02-Nov-10 1:17 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:
" Are you using a delay that repeats what you going to play rather tha= n what you have played?"

I don't really follow you here! A delay only repeats what I play into i= t....?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Twas a joke in response to "Sorry ahead of time from t= he future."

Yes to all features! Setting up 3-4 separate stereo loops with different fa= de/reverse/octave and then being
able to switch among them for further tweaking=3Dheaven!

j

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com <mailto:mnelson@boomer= angmusic.com>> wrote:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote= :

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... S= orry ahead of time from the future. (I have read what I
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0wrote now).


=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Are you using a delay that repeats what you going t= o play rather than what you have played?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0When using a long delay for looping= such as the Boss DD 20.... I will focus on what it can
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0do that
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M= 9 and Boomer + can't.


=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Let me see if I can list the features you'd lik= e to add to a traditional looper. Please correct
=A0 =A0this list.

=A0 =A01) Loops can fade in and out independently of one another.
=A0 =A02) Stacking (overdub) can be active during fades
=A0 =A03) Each loop can have a unique decay setting
=A0 =A04) A loop's decay setting can be changed at any time
=A0 =A05) Loops can be shortened or extended while playing
=A0 =A06) ?


--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
=A0Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

----------

1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax

http://www.boom= erangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
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940-382-3253

Billing Address:
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PO Box 3788
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--20cf301d3d9c464f5d049417632b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 20:33:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A68B63BE8C; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:33:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=GsgKtBnSWnugkVSFGbfT4rFuEjEFjOACKAyBtok+W9k=; b=Za3MDBFnpezXXt5LROoUjLWzAolLPF76OeL6Tabv1c96yk9WCsFSEzUCfYdatp3XyL tF0zrQsviMB69v32WkR6DHqxXA7rX5GoUNwVoMtljpAAgNOsck01apYAwsmvJRGQdWyl qf2B2uj4HLlQZ9/GWWe+xYb2ooDqL/9sjTxZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=pQJPjzKXztMt5xBh8Z+4xN679doZyWAW4F9JAjU1zG7mk3F4BoF8ZqvJ26TFJ5dG4k bOtB2odtNmmAuTd786sNzj4WEDOZe1fJEfYVwZ0MYtbn4PvvPxbo5QZvPUEoPVyOhZna 7Y3TbllmxRnuJVb4uMHncpQIVgwd7799y+L/c= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--962335294 Subject: Re: softstep and mobius users Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:33:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B2CE9C9@barq.sailpoint.com> <0AD1E31E-9632-4330-B31C-A25DB36669FB@zoekeating.com> Message-Id: <12672B86-0650-4E7C-AB42-10AAF98DA828@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:33:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--962335294 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My softstep arrived today! Hooray I sadly won't have time to plug it in until this weekend (teaching crazy = youngsters, selling electronics, and one too many classical music = rehearsals/concerts all packed into one week) but my goal will be to see = if I can set it up to control Logic Pro hands free. I will report on my = successes/failures. Thanks for setting up the group Mark. -Todd Matthews On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:28 PM, mark francombe wrote: > BTW Zoe, >=20 > I made a Yahoo groups list for SoftStep.. at least till they get a = forum up and running.. right now its just me talking to myself there, = but Ive invited the customer service lady at Keith Mc to join... >=20 > Post message: softstep@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: softstep-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: softstep-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > love Mark >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Zoe Keating = wrote: > I want to use the softstep to just send PC and note messages on = various channels, spread across 4 different banks (or "scenes" in = softstep-speak). >=20 > I must be a doof because I'm finding this surprisingly hard to = achieve. I have time to take another stab at it today.=20 >=20 > But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know of...this seems a good = place to compare notes. >=20 >=20 > On Nov 1, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: >=20 >> I have one on order. Just reading specs, I'll probably >> set it up much like the FCB, each switch sends note on/off >> 0-9 in bank 1, 10-19 in bank 2, etc. >> =20 >> I'm not sure how useful the pressure sensitivity will be. >> =20 >> The obvious candidates are the output level, feedback, and pan >> controls but you usually want those to be smooth and it sounds >> like that might be difficult. If we have to we could implement >> some kind of controller smoothing with scripts.=20 >> =20 >> Rate and pitch shift amount are other possibilities. Setting >> parameters like the number of subcycles or Quantize Mode could >> also be done but for those I think it's easier to cycle through >> a set of values just by pressing a switch several times rather >> than trying to dial one in with pressure. >> =20 >> We'll see... >> =20 >> Jeff >> =20 >> From: Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com]=20 >> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:40 AM >> To: Loopers Delight >> Subject: softstep and mobius users >> =20 >> hey gang, >> if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have tons of = questions and there arent any forums that i know of yet >> plus we can start helping future users here as well >> lets hook up! >> cheers >> Luis >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no --Apple-Mail-1--962335294 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii My = softstep arrived today! Hooray

I sadly won't have = time to plug it in until this weekend (teaching crazy youngsters, = selling electronics, and one too many classical music = rehearsals/concerts all packed into one week) but my goal will be to see = if I can set it up to control Logic Pro hands free. I will report on my = successes/failures.

Thanks for setting up the = group Mark.


-Todd = Matthews


On Nov 1, 2010, at = 7:28 PM, mark francombe wrote:

BTW = Zoe,

I made a Yahoo groups list for SoftStep.. at = least till they get a forum up and running.. right now its just me = talking to myself there, but Ive invited the customer service lady at = Keith Mc to join...

=
Post = message:softstep@yahoogroups.com
softstep-subscribe@yaho= ogroups.com
softstep-unsubscribe@= yahoogroups.com




love Mark

 On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> = wrote:
I want to use the softstep to just = send PC and note messages on various channels, spread across 4 different = banks (or "scenes" in softstep-speak).

I must be a = doof because I'm finding this surprisingly hard to achieve. I have time = to take another stab at it today. 

But yes, there isn't any user forum that I know = of...this seems a good place to compare notes.


On Nov 1, = 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Larson wrote:

I have one on order.  Just reading specs, I'll = probably
set it up much like the FCB, each switch sends note = on/off
0-9 in bank 1, 10-19 in bank 2, etc.
 
I'm not sure how useful the pressure sensitivity will = be.
 
The obvious candidates are the output level, feedback, and = pan
controls but you usually want those to be smooth and it = sounds
like that might be difficult.  If we have to we could = implement
some kind of controller smoothing with = scripts. 
 
Rate and pitch shift amount are other possibilities.  = Setting
parameters like the number of subcycles or Quantize Mode = could
also be done but for those I think it's easier to cycle = through
a set of values just by pressing a switch several times = rather
than trying to dial one in with pressure.
 
We'll see...
 
Jeff
 
From: Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:40 = AM
To: Loopers = Delight
Subject: softstep and mobius = users
 
hey = gang,
if anybody is trying this two out please let me know i have = tons of questions and there arent any forums that i know of yet
plus we can start helping future users here as well
lets hook = up!
cheers
Luis




-- =
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter = @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no

= --Apple-Mail-1--962335294-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 20:50:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 375023BE91; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1641 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:50:40 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--962967289 Message-Id: From: Revfever Subject: Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in NYtimes..//boomerang 3... Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:22:41 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE, RDNS_DYNAMIC,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on obf1.tritico.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:50:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--962967289 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Not a bad review I received the CD 2 days ago and it is *wonderful*! (At least in my personal opinion). There's a little more ambient pieces on it than otherwise, but all of the songs, regardless of what they can be categorized as, are brilliant and a joy to hear. An "impression" I got from the order of the tracks (and the title, as well?) was it like being a sea that starts out very calm, and then gradually a "storm" begins to "brew" (as they often can do on the high seas) until it finally becomes furious, and then afterwards, dissipates fairly quickly and the "craft" is back once again on a "calm sea". The production is also immaculate, of course. Definitely REVcommended! Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland, OR http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever On Nov 2, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Scott Hansen wrote: > i just read a review of Eno's new album in the NYtimes: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/arts/music/02choice.html? > _r=1&scp=2&sq=brian%20eno&st=cse > > good review, i think it's articles like this that majority of non- > musicians in the world will hear of "looping" > article talks about eno using loops to create his music, how he > champions the ambient backgrounds we associate w/ film music, etc... > > the interesting thing i thought, is that he created this album w/ a > dj ( Jon Hopkins) & a guitarist (Leo Abrahams), in various studios > and then sounds like he manipulated stuff after-wards.... > > in one of the posts on The Gear Page, there has been discussion on > the "decline of music (or guitar) mags" in recent yrs, and i was > thinking, > hmmm, it would be interesting to read interviews w/ the 2 who > worked w/ eno in the studio on this....sounds like they did lots of > improvs to > create the pieces....of course, if they ask lame questions like > "what kind of strings did you use?", kind of hard to get ideas of > their process from this.... > ---- > on the boomerang 3 debate, i believe that Henry Kaiser uses one for > his loops on the "Art of the Stompbox" DVD. he doesn't really go > into it too much > but he does some looping stuff w/ Nels Cline (Nels uses his old > EH16ddl)...HK launches into stuff pretty easy w/ it, i know when he > did his instructional dvd > back in early 90s, i think he used his Eventide H3000 for looping > stuff....he doesn't compare or contrast the stuff, but it looks > pretty seamless & easy from > what he's doing, use-wise....and i know he seems to really favor > pretty clean sounds nowadays...even his fuzz use sounds clean to > me.... > > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > --Apple-Mail-3--962967289 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Not a bad review

I received the CD 2 days ago and it = is *wonderful*! (At least in my personal opinion). There's a little more = ambient pieces on it
than otherwise, but all of the songs, = regardless of what they can be categorized as, are brilliant and a joy = to hear. 

An "impression" I got from = the order of the tracks (and the title, as well?) was it like being a = sea that starts out very calm, 
and then gradually a = "storm" begins to "brew" (as they often can do on the high seas) = until it finally becomes furious, 
and then = afterwards, dissipates fairly quickly and the "craft" is back = once again on a "calm sea". 
The production is also = immaculate, of course. 

Definitely = REVcommended!

Cheers,
Rev. = Fever
Portland, OR


On Nov 2, 2010, = at 11:25 AM, Scott Hansen wrote:

i just = read a review of Eno's new album in the NYtimes:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010= /11/02/arts/music/02choice.html?_r=3D1&scp=3D2&sq=3Dbrian%20eno&am= p;st=3Dcse

good review, i think it's articles like this that = majority of non-musicians in the world will hear of "looping"
article = talks about eno using loops to create his music, how he champions the = ambient backgrounds we associate w/ film music, etc...

the = interesting thing i thought, is that he created this album w/ a dj ( Jon = Hopkins) & a guitarist (Leo Abrahams), in various studios
and = then sounds like he manipulated stuff after-wards....

in one of = the posts on The Gear Page, there has been discussion on the "decline of = music (or guitar) mags" in recent yrs, and i was thinking,
hmmm, it = would be interesting to read interviews w/ the 2 who worked w/ eno in = the studio on this....sounds like they did lots of improvs to
create = the pieces....of course, if they ask lame questions like "what kind of = strings did you use?", kind of hard to get ideas of their process from = this....
----
on the boomerang 3 debate, i believe that Henry = Kaiser uses one for his loops on the "Art of the Stompbox" DVD. he = doesn't really go into it too much
but he does some looping stuff w/ = Nels Cline (Nels uses his old EH16ddl)...HK launches into stuff pretty = easy w/ it, i know when he did his instructional dvd
back in early = 90s, i think he used his Eventide H3000 for looping stuff....he doesn't = compare or contrast the stuff, but it looks pretty seamless & easy = from
what he's doing, use-wise....and i know he seems to really favor = pretty clean sounds nowadays...even his fuzz use sounds clean to = me....

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= --Apple-Mail-3--962967289-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 21:18:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CC9C3BE8D; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 21:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=cJtvfaS2JHjHV6fw/GZC4BEtM9XPyXW/BHuIZcDzXjKcxJyjGR7hQOCfW6bmskPt; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:56:46 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Brian Eno's entire album "Small Craft on a Milk Sea" streamed on NPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79bdd682368f1df0a2edaeaf60cdb29b64350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 21:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Entire album streamed on NPR: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130670962 -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 21:39:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED8A03BE8E; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 21:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=y4rXU0gh8iOOK5XikZEhPRRtyJ7EWTrsUohegT26HFQ=; b=d21slKDiZ18gt55SOEdkcZc4HrQZmfYE9V+QIaQriUtpZuVJrprSmtpkWk7RGbxe8P 9kGaSXrBMoLuYub5Hty/B9YmM1kbDn0THFm7HBCEkEXcPeAjB8DHuTcTSg5EhfpNoLSj 8DYAhHVrM/E4oZh/CIQAQU4Bc7o+w6rdcA5DQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kEMvBhvC16rDM7zLO6WveQTfAtR4B/j2VFSHGhJmFPtrGN0kHsFabYi0RCBRIltiD5 QBeSNwti2RxQmm6G73EkZXTBl3whT8LsV8NU1c9bQz9FIdZkZ5v7I71l1Vqy4QHeH3c+ FHdUpX/R/Gi2xCQAzZNx8rO2N6GeZcwrlWlUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:39:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Brian Eno's entire album "Small Craft on a Milk Sea" streamed on NPR From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363106732dbf43049418c1af Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 21:39:10 +0000 (UTC) --0016363106732dbf43049418c1af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + soundflower + rec.software =3D free album :) 2010/11/2 Charles Zwicky > Entire album streamed on NPR: > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3D130670962 > > > + soundflower + rec.software =3D free album :) > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " http://raulbonell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com --0016363106732dbf43049418c1af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + soundflower + rec.software =3D free album :)

2010/11/2 Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
Entire album streamed on NPR:

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--0016363106732dbf43049418c1af-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 22:48:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1714E3BE8F; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD09518.90302@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:47:52 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD05C77.8020409@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2010 22:48:16.0663 (UTC) FILETIME=[09D86270:01CB7AE0] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:48:16 +0000 (UTC) On 02-Nov-10 3:01 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Not to rush you Mike but, uh, when do you think you'll have my dream delay/looper ready for pickup? The Super > 'Rang! That's funny because we've used the term Super Looper to describe the be-all-end-all looper. I wonder if creating that beast might be impossible because there are many approaches to looping, and one player's got-to-have feature is another's superfluous nonsense. One thing that seems to be true is that the Super Looper will need many controls so most or all functions are quickly accessible. That seems to rule out a compact pedal. Or... how about a one loop pedal that has the delay-like features you want and some of the phrase sampler features like reverse, octave, etc. It would be less expensive and you could buy as many as needed for your particular looping madness. > j -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 23:00:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA4573BE92; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 23:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L/KnKepWeo8jk4mjzZqn8pXp8kCFss9Tr5I1Tu8Fi1k=; b=bUrQE+9h8mR98mG9+nLzpZXnpS7AlEEKYAcMNmq9U6YNXQpPb+gtlGzwHI/AtvhAG6 GkpreO0b2EsYYMSG+MQI2WoTemavAaNO8EhCM9JMwli17k5rjRhCrOZsqzMRx8kIeBEt 8bjwxi1J+EzeksSFmjI4dTepJmvVJcZGHRBpg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xxVbya0hHsJ3lomUZeNuzbws1bPKRtXVzADsS/ymP6L3DOopuDlESuvrSHV4zI88eL Bi98yv4oqRoWWDyFsz8powClrzGLwCiEnWIPJXF6KrRy39CT9N5xcXchJjaF5W1bQjRP 58GUl3hMkElEEs/6vXCQfHtHfdtYw/CCvyhkw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CD09518.90302@boomerangmusic.com> References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD05C77.8020409@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD09518.90302@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:00:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6135a6478773049419e5ca Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 23:00:49 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6135a6478773049419e5ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 " Or... how about a one loop pedal that has the delay-like features you want and some of the phrase sampler features like reverse, octave, etc. It would be less expensive and you could buy as many as needed for your particular looping madness." Great idea Mike! I know there are some of us that would love this. Put me down for two!! Thanks for listening! j On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Mike wrote: > > On 02-Nov-10 3:01 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> Not to rush you Mike but, uh, when do you think you'll have my dream >> delay/looper ready for pickup? The Super >> 'Rang! >> > > That's funny because we've used the term Super Looper to describe > the be-all-end-all looper. I wonder if creating that beast might be > impossible because there are many approaches to looping, and one player's > got-to-have feature is another's superfluous nonsense. > One thing that seems to be true is that the Super Looper will need > many controls so most or all functions are quickly accessible. That seems to > rule out a compact pedal. > Or... how about a one loop pedal that has the delay-like features > you want and some of the phrase sampler features like reverse, octave, etc. > It would be less expensive and you could buy as many as needed for your > particular looping madness. > > j >> > > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > --90e6ba6135a6478773049419e5ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "=A0 =A0=A0 Or... how about a one loop pedal that has the delay-like f= eatures=20 you want and some of the phrase sampler features like reverse, octave,=20 etc. It would be less expensive and you could buy as many as needed for=20 your particular looping madness."

Great idea Mike! I know there= are some of us that would love this. Put me down for two!! Thanks for list= ening!

j


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 a= t 6:47 PM, Mike <mnelson@boomerangmusic.com> wrote:

On 02-Nov-10 3:01 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:
Not to rush you Mike but, uh, when do you think you'll have my dream de= lay/looper ready for pickup? The Super
'Rang!

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0That's funny because we've used the term Super Loop= er to describe the be-all-end-all looper. I wonder if creating that beast m= ight be impossible because there are many approaches to looping, and one pl= ayer's got-to-have feature is another's superfluous nonsense.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0One thing that seems to be true is that the Super Looper wi= ll need many controls so most or all functions are quickly accessible. That= seems to rule out a compact pedal.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Or... how about a one loop pedal that has the delay-like fe= atures you want and some of the phrase sampler features like reverse, octav= e, etc. It would be less expensive and you could buy as many as needed for = your particular looping madness.

j

--

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
=A0Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better."

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1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax

http://www.boom= erangmusic.com

Contact for repairs:
Lee Hardesty
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX =A076209
hardesty@minds= pring.com
940-382-3253

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX =A076099-3788

--90e6ba6135a6478773049419e5ca-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 23:26:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 608383BE91; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 23:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=K5U25NvDv6dNEJYZFEV7bZkAJEI2B1AuBNW07WbSMWg=; b=A8mWCmSuuEEs/AkBazyVwijUnO+FHX9t6RY3Yhy8fzYBspWLKHbG4m3ACs7dESFvzJ n0Kw4tgjniC2tg1XkR8LATkY5IwNgDIPIdMQotUMpM21dCevE2NcTrlWDQyoAKjB5au3 lMQ6os2aXeTMSFQBxjeazzogJSSbE2XZu7SxY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wc/h83KAVzbku3BbUOMsJBjY/DrIcLwtZbmvMgaQDG97KxK0M+tl4KWnBVSSHOnktD OB9F60rRaPwNpJDAp0QtHT5Wud2aY0Vw0cjh6kKmG9iUuaeeys3gdO8EBXnoXcDrK8gh r996vzMAbt+rtYNP++da2qHAJj1IluyyWTQgA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CCF6979.9000401@boomerangmusic.com> References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6979.9000401@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:26:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8DYciB.A.PSD.Y4J0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 23:26:16 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Mike wrote: > The Rang(TM) III is the looper you imagine in all respects but one. > It's small (6" x 9"), records in true stereo, has good headroom, has grea= t > audio specs and can record & play 3 (or four) unsynced loops. Each loop c= an > play normally, reversed and/or an octave down (half speed) independently = of > the others. You can also record a loop with Octave active, then turn it o= ff > so the loop plays twice as fast and an octave higher. > > =A0The Decay can be set to a different rate while stacking on the > different loops, but a unique decay rate cannot be assigned to each loop. > =A06 out of 7 ain't bad. I agree, 6 out of 7 ain't bad :) Btw: I'm missing one feature Andy Butler reported (see below). Is this possible with the Rang III? Andy wrote: > 1) start recording > 2) fade up a note > 3) end recording and go straight into overdub (while holding their note) > 4) fade the note out, and listen to a seamless loop being played > ...where "overdub" is the familiar term for "stack". > When the guys here ask for seamless loops, that's what they're > getting at 9 times out of 10. Together with the feedback control per track, these are features I always use. Btw: you suggested that the fade out feature as a workaround but like Jeff said, an ambient looper is changing feedback settings many times during a performance so I don't see that as a good alternative. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ I think 6 out of 8, if I understand it well the Rang can't go straight into overdub mode when ending a loop your initial loop to create this seamless ? But the audio specs look indeed good. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 2 23:50:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E14D03BE8E; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 23:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FEnTGq79eIn1QlNdH+EJ/TOaxnnekAWhlhsO5aT7y0k=; b=b3kGVFfUgz8X3xFa0EOPhHu/RcsiJO8d02xhTEixs5sZQ4mIBka/UUpktiaAwyKOIR z5WNMzswTX458nuUDQcnlO3Om+YMXHBn/TF8GJRzvsdsviXyY1A41S1Nxcp/aO2VNJI7 Y6SmxL0qdt0dx7+p3oWZlr59s4fFwcui2kz7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XWz9wGy0Blr12xiQBkabf0qBdqwxxvcTNLqpjuA4sNMWnV/O35i9eei3Gl2PNJNqFJ zTik5lUBHyFPoz4xO6AsYsSnKmqQMwxhBnyzwO56ydZAuXjOT043OOKE1WTWljNlQMDl RQi2A3AiaQNwhrL41XbdmT1dxmQdLiqwvOOQo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD05C77.8020409@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD09518.90302@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:49:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 23:49:59 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > "=A0 =A0=A0 Or... how about a one loop pedal that has the delay-like feat= ures you > want and some of the phrase sampler features like reverse, octave, etc. I= t > would be less expensive and you could buy as many as needed for your > particular looping madness." > > Great idea Mike! I know there are some of us that would love this. Put me > down for two!! Thanks for listening! Jeff, I agree with that. My 2 cents: I think, in general, you have 2 categories of loopers: 1) The one man band or song looper. Examples: Boss RC-series =3D> often called phrase samplers 2) Live processing of audio loops. Example loopers: some delay pedals, EDP, LP1, Mobius, many software loopers =3D> ambient loopers fit into this category The point is that many loopers don't need sophisticated high-end loopers, or don't want to spent the money on high-end and expensive hardware looper or laptops. First of all, they want a reliable piece of hardware with good audio specs and specific features depending on the type of use. I think the Rang III is somewhere in between, but there's currently not a simple and affordable stereo 3- track looper in the range of 500 Euro's which fits in the second category. So if someone combines delay and phrase sampler features in one single box, that would be great. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 00:13:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C8263BE8D; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 01:13:28 +0100 Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) X-Originating-Ip: 98.180.40.193 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-02.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101103001328.E19106545AD@c-in3ws--03-02.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:13:30 +0000 (UTC) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) > Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:47:52 -0500 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 02-Nov-10 3:01 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > Not to rush you Mike but, uh, when do you think you'll have my=20 > > dream delay/looper ready for pickup? The Super > > 'Rang! >=20 > That's funny because we've used the term Super Looper to describe=20 > the be-all-end-all looper. I wonder if creating that beast might be=20 > impossible because there are many approaches to looping, and one=20 > player's got-to-have feature is another's superfluous nonsense. I completely agree here. I think there is a big difference between creating= /recording loops & then editing/FX/mangling said loops. I tend to record my= loops with the FX already in place, & other than reversing or changing pit= ch, do little to the loop after it is recorded. I read many of the posts th= at seem to indicate that looping time is not important nor the ability to s= tore a loop. To me, both are incredibly important. I want the time to be ab= le to develop a part & if it turns out really well, use it again later to e= ither do a recorded version or as part of a completely different piece.=20 > http://www.boomerangmusic.com >=20 > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 >=20 > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 00:15:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B33F3BE8F; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VVtol2f4vhzjgn32Kv+XNaezCe0v/PRrOZZkTPL8qi0=; b=mW0EooWcoElBYHlXmXdCQQaKtMGp1RpqjoEIAR6GZnUZ8bdWhqvZkKZLRipU9fYDgm LLn2lvVJwp4jZfqfIwFscqc302r4hytTKV0dOQ3TEetc3WRGFEpDQlw5tqr33cD1Tlde 2ryKRtG312bomCl6t9CveS0CmENb9GQsOpUK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NfUYdd6aKpV/YfhcjtyfCH7wZBfmp+qHkZby2LnACnXQUUVhhwgvWXc7nPl4hlarJd gPYbDNZppVcydvkqE2s3ZEbxJZB/5nukCcvw+Ucl//5LxfTP5SuWckWDvkctEb5l9tCj Y3/M6vJGwiphI13OhZc55DhlJcHsHJarftW7Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <19B271FA-726D-47D3-982F-F1D27CB07BCA@charter.net> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:15:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175743c4e1a43204941aee71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:15:06 +0000 (UTC) --0015175743c4e1a43204941aee71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable glitch really lives up to its name by crashing bidule every time i try to use it. it'd be great if it worked reliably. anybody else having problems with it? - jim On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Hey Ted, > > Be sure to check out the free PC VST glitch: > http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/ > > It's great for beat synced effects. > > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:46 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > >> That does look pretty cool. >> >> I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delays >> and filters (the amp models weren't too bad either). >> >> I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds. >> >> This changes all that. >> >> Could be a very useful tool. >> >> Now that I am going laptop it's perfect. >> >> Thanks for sharing the news. >> >> >> On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Tony K wrote: >> >> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.html >>> >>> Whoo Hooo! >>> >>> -- >>> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- >>> Tony >>> >> >> > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > --0015175743c4e1a43204941aee71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable glitch really lives up to its name by crashing bidule every time i try to u= se it.=A0 it'd be great if it worked reliably.=A0 anybody else having p= roblems with it?

- jim

On Tue, Nov= 2, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Ted,

B= e sure to check out the free PC VST glitch:
http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/=

It's great for beat synced effects.


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:46 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.n= et> wrote:
That does look pretty cool.

I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delays= and filters (the amp models weren't too bad either).

I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds.

This changes all that.

Could be a very useful tool.

Now that I am going laptop it's perfect.

Thanks for sharing the news.


On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Tony K wrote:

http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync= /index.html

Whoo Hooo!

--
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
Tony




--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon

--0015175743c4e1a43204941aee71-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 00:32:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5C383BE89; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1047 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 00:32:54 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3jtQBdTzPyV+fq4oCU/u8ZPrJJGN11HvhaDVxyWhycI= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=2OaJESjHOi3Z9tBT9oBKkw==:17 a=IszcogfuraARx0sSU5oA:9 a=2Y1RfjecxMSHZmF7AowA:7 a=dd0kCauWHyReRCxphHmzdG4QMK8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lqU90FuYyZhZTr-r:21 a=w-VgNRYhCHN0meMM:21 a=2OaJESjHOi3Z9tBT9oBKkw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.70.61.240 From: "list2" To: References: Subject: RE: Boomerang 3 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:15:26 -0400 Message-ID: <6C3DA88B085C476E9B58B619BC512F51@HAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Act6HQkw4cNljzU7RcadtlaFDhsjEQADhNMA In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: <842X6C.A.QtE.22K0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Mike Nelson asked: > The Fade function is also global, so you can fade all playing loops > out or fade 1 to 4 loops in, but you cannot fade loops individually. Would > it be of interest to anyone to fade in loop 1, fade out loop 3 and play & > stack on loop 2, all at the same time? I can conceive of situations where I would enjoy having the ability to crossfade between two loops while playing/stacking some sort of bridging idea "between" them. So you can count me as a "yes", Mike. I've had my V.2 'Rang III just long enough to fall completely in love and to understand that it will take a while to understand how to work the various capabilities into a flow. (Which I guess is true of any but the most rudimentary tools.) While the learning curve felt a bit steep for my first couple of "getting to know you" sessions, I now feel like the large majority of its functions are nicely intuitive. It sounds great, is built to last, and takes up less room on my pedal board than my DL4. Anyway, the one thing I understood almost immediately is that being able to access only 4 bonus pedal functions at a time (without bending over to reassign functions) leaves me like the kid at the candy counter: "I can only pick 4? But I want one of those and one of those and one of those and one of those and oooh, look at that one..." Which brings me to my question: There have been rumors (or perhaps only wishes voiced aloud) of a 'Rang side car with additional bonus buttons that would allow instant access to more functions. I know you've just completed a major product launch and may not want to even discuss this, but is this a possibility? If you said "yes" I'd pre-order mine tomorrow. hoby From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 05:16:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BDD53BE87; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 05:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d334865f-3ebb-4dbe-a1ee-ef1a06a2395b_" X-Originating-IP: [86.146.109.228] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: AdrenaLinn for PC Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 05:16:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<19B271FA-726D-47D3-982F-F1D27CB07BCA@charter.net>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2010 05:16:01.0387 (UTC) FILETIME=[34B38BB0:01CB7B16] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 05:16:04 +0000 (UTC) --_d334865f-3ebb-4dbe-a1ee-ef1a06a2395b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've used it in Cubase and Audiomulch and it's never crashed - it's worth p= ersevering with. IMO Peace G Date: Tue=2C 2 Nov 2010 20:15:04 -0400 Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC From: twostroke@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com glitch really lives up to its name by crashing bidule every time i try to u= se it. it'd be great if it worked reliably. anybody else having problems = with it? - jim On Tue=2C Nov 2=2C 2010 at 11:21 AM=2C Art Simon wrote: Hey Ted=2C Be sure to check out the free PC VST glitch: http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/ It's great for beat synced effects. On Tue=2C Nov 2=2C 2010 at 7:46 AM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: That does look pretty cool. I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delays and= filters (the amp models weren't too bad either). I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds. This changes all that. Could be a very useful tool. Now that I am going laptop it's perfect. Thanks for sharing the news. On Nov 1=2C 2010=2C at 8:48 PM=2C Tony K wrote: http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.html Whoo Hooo! --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon = --_d334865f-3ebb-4dbe-a1ee-ef1a06a2395b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've used it in Cubase and Audiomulch and it's never crashed - it's worth p= ersevering with. IMO

Peace

G

D= ate: Tue=2C 2 Nov 2010 20:15:04 -0400
Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC
= From: twostroke@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
glitch really lives up to its name by crashing bidule every time i try to = use it. =3B it'd be great if it worked reliably. =3B anybody else h= aving problems with it?

- jim

O= n Tue=2C Nov 2=2C 2010 at 11:21 AM=2C Art Simon <=3Bsimart@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
Hey Ted= =2C

Be sure to check out the free PC VST glitch:
http://illformed.org/plu= gins/glitch/

It's great for beat synced effects.

On Tue=2C Nov 2=2C 2010 at 7:46 AM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn <= =3Btedkillian@charter.net>= =3B wrote:
That does look pretty cool.

I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delays and= filters (the amp models weren't too bad either).

I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds.

This changes all that.

Could be a very useful tool.

Now that I am going laptop it's perfect.

Thanks for sharing the news.


On Nov 1=2C 2010=2C at 8:48 PM=2C Tony K wrote:

http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync= /index.html

Whoo Hooo!

--
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
Tony




--
Art Simon
s= imart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon

= --_d334865f-3ebb-4dbe-a1ee-ef1a06a2395b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 06:31:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFE073BE8B; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 06:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Dream looper (was Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3)) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 23:31:28 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD05C77.8020409@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD09518.90302@boomerangmusic.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: <0hjP1.A.WBD.EHQ0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 06:31:32 +0000 (UTC) My looping setup for several years consisted of a pair of independent = (but brother synced) EDPs. Of late, I've been using the looper in the = Line6 M13 because of convenience. I own an LP1, but it doesn't think = quite the way I do. My dream looper (rough thoughts, this list would probably get expanded = and revised with sleep): * Stereo or at least stereo friendly. The Line6 pedals are stereo = friendly though not a stereo looper. The EDP is not stereo friendly = unless you buy two and even then some things don't work quite as well -- = e.g., threshold recording. Basically, the rest of my rig is stereo and = I'd rather not have to use a mixer in a portable rig. * Pedalboard/floor friendly. Hauling a rack around is a pain. * I need to be able to go straight into Overdub at feedback of 100%. = This seems to be the key to creating seamless loops. * I want an EDP-style multiply -- i.e., tell it to start multiplying and = it overdubs on new cycles as long as is needed for the multiply period. = One also has to be able exit multiply into overdub. * I like the Line6 model for undo -- i.e., it goes back to where you = left it before you started recording or otherwise modifying the loop. = This makes more sense if the loop doesn't decay when not being modified. = EDP-style loop windowing is cool, but it's not as useful. * Two separate loops with only one playing at a time and an ability to = copy the audio between them is pretty useful and more flexible than = undo. * I want a replace mode that allows it to function as a single delay = with then the option to go out of replace into either play or overdub. * I like intermediate feedback levels (other than 0% and 100%), but I = could be persuaded to live without them. * The ability to mute/stop and then restart the loop is pretty critical. = It's good if it can do this and stay in time or not as the case may be. * Double-speed and half-speed are pretty useful. Reverse feels more like = a trick and is less critical for what I do. * I've been into Quantized Replace on the EDP since before the LP1 = offered it, but a good implementation -- particularly on a pedal board = -- should recognize that when in Quantized Replace mode, I probably want = to mute the input audio except when I'm replacing. But I would not = insist on having quantized replace on my dream looper if I got much of = the other things I want. * I need to be able to synchronize at least two of these things so that = they have cycle lengths that are multiples of one another. That can = either be handled via two or more simultaneous loops in one box or two = loopers with sync capabilities. I'm sure more would come to me. I feel some pressure to also try to edit = the list down, however, since there's an aspect of wanting something = that is fairly clear and simple to use. Take the EDP, put it in a floor pedal, make it stereo friendly, and = revise the undo and next loop functions a bit and I would probably be = quite happy. But then I also deal with the EDP seeming to be more = finicky about audio levels and... Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 08:40:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C673A3BE89; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bc5e3c84-e9e0-4285-9fb5-4b582fdd11d3_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Boomerang 3 > Octatrack Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:40:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6C3DA88B085C476E9B58B619BC512F51@HAL> References: ,<6C3DA88B085C476E9B58B619BC512F51@HAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2010 08:40:28.0309 (UTC) FILETIME=[C45B4C50:01CB7B32] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:40:29 +0000 (UTC) --_bc5e3c84-e9e0-4285-9fb5-4b582fdd11d3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Octrack might be an upcoming answer for some of these functions discussed. = The Scenes fade could be useful for what ypu discuss below.. http://www.elektron.se/products/octatrack =20 > From: list2@moondogeast.org > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: Boomerang 3 > Date: Tue=2C 2 Nov 2010 20:15:26 -0400 >=20 > Mike Nelson asked: >=20 > > The Fade function is also global=2C so you can fade all playing loops > > out or fade 1 to 4 loops in=2C but you cannot fade loops individually. = Would > > it be of interest to anyone to fade in loop 1=2C fade out loop 3 and pl= ay & > > stack on loop 2=2C all at the same time? >=20 > >=20 > I can conceive of situations where I would enjoy having the ability to > crossfade between two loops while playing/stacking some sort of bridging > idea "between" them. So you can count me as a "yes"=2C Mike. >=20 > I've had my V.2 'Rang III just long enough to fall completely in love and= to > understand that it will take a while to understand how to work the variou= s > capabilities into a flow. (Which I guess is true of any but the most > rudimentary tools.) While the learning curve felt a bit steep for my firs= t > couple of "getting to know you" sessions=2C I now feel like the large maj= ority > of its functions are nicely intuitive. It sounds great=2C is built to las= t=2C > and takes up less room on my pedal board than my DL4.=20 >=20 > Anyway=2C the one thing I understood almost immediately is that being abl= e to > access only 4 bonus pedal functions at a time (without bending over to > reassign functions) leaves me like the kid at the candy counter: "I can o= nly > pick 4? But I want one of those and one of those and one of those and one= of > those and oooh=2C look at that one..." >=20 > Which brings me to my question: There have been rumors (or perhaps only > wishes voiced aloud) of a 'Rang side car with additional bonus buttons th= at > would allow instant access to more functions. I know you've just complete= d a > major product launch and may not want to even discuss this=2C but is this= a > possibility? If you said "yes" I'd pre-order mine tomorrow. >=20 > >=20 > hoby >=20 = --_bc5e3c84-e9e0-4285-9fb5-4b582fdd11d3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Octrack might be an upcoming answer for some of these functions discussed. = The Scenes fade could be useful for what ypu discuss below..
http://www.elektron.s= e/products/octatrack
 =3B
>=3B From: list2@moondogeast.org
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com
>=3B Subject: RE: Boomerang 3
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 2 Nov 2= 010 20:15:26 -0400
>=3B
>=3B Mike Nelson asked:
>=3B
&g= t=3B >=3B The Fade function is also global=2C so you can fade all playing= loops
>=3B >=3B out or fade 1 to 4 loops in=2C but you cannot fade = loops individually. Would
>=3B >=3B it be of interest to anyone to f= ade in loop 1=2C fade out loop 3 and play &=3B
>=3B >=3B stack on= loop 2=2C all at the same time?
>=3B
>=3B <=3BComing out of a= nearly decade-long lurk mode>=3B
>=3B
>=3B I can conceive of = situations where I would enjoy having the ability to
>=3B crossfade be= tween two loops while playing/stacking some sort of bridging
>=3B idea= "between" them. So you can count me as a "yes"=2C Mike.
>=3B
>= =3B I've had my V.2 'Rang III just long enough to fall completely in love a= nd to
>=3B understand that it will take a while to understand how to w= ork the various
>=3B capabilities into a flow. (Which I guess is true = of any but the most
>=3B rudimentary tools.) While the learning curve = felt a bit steep for my first
>=3B couple of "getting to know you" ses= sions=2C I now feel like the large majority
>=3B of its functions are = nicely intuitive. It sounds great=2C is built to last=2C
>=3B and take= s up less room on my pedal board than my DL4.
>=3B
>=3B Anyway= =2C the one thing I understood almost immediately is that being able to
= >=3B access only 4 bonus pedal functions at a time (without bending over = to
>=3B reassign functions) leaves me like the kid at the candy counte= r: "I can only
>=3B pick 4? But I want one of those and one of those a= nd one of those and one of
>=3B those and oooh=2C look at that one..."=
>=3B
>=3B Which brings me to my question: There have been rumor= s (or perhaps only
>=3B wishes voiced aloud) of a 'Rang side car with = additional bonus buttons that
>=3B would allow instant access to more = functions. I know you've just completed a
>=3B major product launch an= d may not want to even discuss this=2C but is this a
>=3B possibility?= If you said "yes" I'd pre-order mine tomorrow.
>=3B
>=3B <=3B= Back into the shadows>=3B
>=3B
>=3B hoby
>=3B
= = --_bc5e3c84-e9e0-4285-9fb5-4b582fdd11d3_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 10:06:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3B103BE80; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 10:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 525482481/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.25.5/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.25.5 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAGDR0ExYbRkF/2dsb2JhbAAH326FRgSNUg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,288,1286146800"; d="scan'208";a="525482481" Message-ID: <4CD13442.2010209@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 10:06:58 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 10:06:40 +0000 (UTC) > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Mike > wrote: > > Let me see if I can list the features you'd like to add to a > traditional looper. Please correct this list. > > 1) Loops can fade in and out independently of one another. > 2) Stacking (overdub) can be active during fades > 3) Each loop can have a unique decay setting > 4) A loop's decay setting can be changed at any time > 5) Loops can be shortened or extended while playing > 6) ? On thing that's probably expected in a looper is that the feedback control will be able to make the loop decay when it isn't being overdubbed. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 11:01:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBFEC3BE80; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JFx+BQDshiNE3q1C9yT81hVkYIINfYNuaWL7oHrKlTE=; b=rX6ry9GKVjxA72NlOCKZEarMZdpCgnDLumGrNltKIdSGlBB1qIS//OndfCBU12e88r jv632mBMydgqu3LCW7JhRoTnTkbAl1+Y42B26cLGN3LdJz7by3CdHZvDJLbN/bpIF4Be tVtHk225QwHNFzodgMb0PzvrDOKGkE2sfNrJA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ds+aOWPtRh27ucbcf/XxWNnuxHgCHs4+PaIG+WM/WwfDU0IR0CBIgljr1p9gPJ0HWe FlAUKNdD36Qof5XyvwA0uub1gC4BTODZHgjXSzx76MqePgxgWEwxf5I5ShNQTAFcKXOF A57DvDYX/04vgMxCpogDOqJrxtCkxbB3IjDPI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:01:43 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: mobius scripters...help please.... :O) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd404bc7fd7f2049423f71f Resent-Message-ID: <7Rm09B.A.QgH.YEU0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:01:44 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd404bc7fd7f2049423f71f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 any mobius scripters out there? just wondering if it's possible to change loop copy mode and 8ths per cycle on a track via a script? i'm hoping to be able to do this... assuming i have hit rec and recorded some audio into track 1... rec (to close the loop) pan left loop copy mode = sound select next track set 8ths per cycle = 16 pan right if it's not possible to set the loop copy mode and the 8ths per cycle values, then, rec pan left select next track pan right and i'll have to set those other values manually, or recall a preset i'd also be interested in a slight variation, where both tracks have their rates set to +12 many thanks in advance! sim --000e0cd404bc7fd7f2049423f71f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable any mobius scripters out there?

just wondering if it's possible = to change loop copy mode and 8ths per cycle on a track via a script?
i'm hoping to be able to do this...

assuming i have hit rec and= recorded some audio into track 1...

rec (to close the loop)
pan left
loop copy mode =3D sound
sele= ct next track
set 8ths per cycle =3D 16
pan right

if it's = not possible to set the loop copy mode and the 8ths per cycle values, then,=

rec
pan left
select next track
pan right

and i'll h= ave to set those other values manually, or recall a preset

i'd a= lso be interested in a slight variation, where both tracks have their rates= set to +12

many thanks in advance!

sim

--000e0cd404bc7fd7f2049423f71f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 11:56:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A8C93BE87; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:56:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 516938791/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.25.5/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.25.5 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYBAHPq0ExYbRkF/2dsb2JhbAAHmULGSYVGBI1S X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,288,1286146800"; d="scan'208";a="516938791" Message-ID: <4CD14DFE.1010302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 11:56:46 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Dream looper (was Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3)) References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD05C77.8020409@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD09518.90302@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:56:30 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > * in Quantized Replace mode, I probably want to mute the input audio except when I'm replacing. Very interesting idea. ...but how do you know you'd actually like it if you actually got to try it? andy ps Matthias *is* working on the next generation edp, probably that's going to be worth the wait for you. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 13:27:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F201D3BE85; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zWz5NTEjB4r1H6LvYinWVsLIdmDu4nS93nsYIutmAMU=; b=TWkH+4VF1Gx35Hie6tkhdCVt2wr8kHkz+X5aR9ETiWTOiiXkHUEAg4sqdKtOzv9waw XvEdMIFsax6L+z9LFm10/CHhKh6w2G2Td7+5AFE1t6bpvULoTrtPTcGg25oLxIDSAGZR LCAC9UtvXi+DZHA5puARgallb52XA83zil/Ao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RZHcDiuEPl/LbStDX5N5jVoLscNpSvfi4nqZeBLpYII1S17ojXrYHIwxWflh+eyq1B 0GfiCjQnQK3pagdy14gncQ0ErXkiQFOP+sGapimDB2oFpzV1vLzAK5klbdtel+PEQ/Rq YlE1D+ZgSZvZVByAdBFSYEqsIuUNAGpVzwEAE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6C3DA88B085C476E9B58B619BC512F51@HAL> References: <6C3DA88B085C476E9B58B619BC512F51@HAL> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:27:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:27:57 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:15 AM, list2 wrote: > .... > Which brings me to my question: There have been rumors (or perhaps only > wishes voiced aloud) of a 'Rang side car with additional bonus buttons that > would allow instant access to more functions. I know you've just completed a > major product launch and may not want to even discuss this, but is this a > possibility? If you said "yes" I'd pre-order mine tomorrow. Why not implementing midi and a use a midi controller of your own choice in stead of re-inventing the wheel? You have already so many good midi controllers on the market and I think most loopers already have one. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 13:47:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48F943BE7E; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Hqut9zGeg44Zwmo2+DDAQib4coX7x/uY0brfptV676o=; b=uuP2UCuqFCoPxqOYXwwjayMwThTP4bZhnsawk76W+chE2GgsOFCyXfFbOfK2nKCT6H zPh6cfX7uLkKykA/SJJ4gKnhyFMfXSZCTovKt/sH8dcjSaSvRb91sRHbZ/oG20w7OP+O zwxV/S2PS8rU19D5ONa0+ODqdxuNckEHosGYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VDwsC9i8LY8NrnrFu5K5Cx7AIsbP0nYfiLzCeOZYxA1UxvqJrb1AORJJ4/CetBouVY 6smcg6XMY5AbUHehaMf07xJHb0dIi1NtXkVG1oJQYdWTPcjninNhS1thTs5bjf/27EQc A+oOLA07lJc/QY2N0MZQDDbGbBAfxjbHMkPb4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <19B271FA-726D-47D3-982F-F1D27CB07BCA@charter.net> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:47:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d588d73ec3d20494264886 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:47:30 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d588d73ec3d20494264886 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It works perfectly here (bidule/mobius configuration) See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DreBOeq60CLU for my live set in Antwerp where I was using 3 dbglitch plugins (post loop) with different sequences at the same time. I guess ther's something in your setup that cause a conflict. My suggestion is: start from scratch and build a new bidule layout. -fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2010/11/3 james fowler > glitch really lives up to its name by crashing bidule every time i try to > use it. it'd be great if it worked reliably. anybody else having proble= ms > with it? > > - jim > > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Art Simon wrote: > >> Hey Ted, >> >> Be sure to check out the free PC VST glitch: >> http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/ >> >> It's great for beat synced effects. >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:46 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn = wrote: >> >>> That does look pretty cool. >>> >>> I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delays >>> and filters (the amp models weren't too bad either). >>> >>> I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds. >>> >>> This changes all that. >>> >>> Could be a very useful tool. >>> >>> Now that I am going laptop it's perfect. >>> >>> Thanks for sharing the news. >>> >>> >>> On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Tony K wrote: >>> >>> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.html >>>> >>>> Whoo Hooo! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- >>>> Tony >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@gmail.com >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >> > > --0016e6d588d73ec3d20494264886 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It works perfectly here (bidule/mobius configuration)
for=A0my live set in Antwerp where I was using 3 dbglitch plugins (pos= t loop) with different sequences at the same time.
=A0
I guess ther's something in your setup that cause a conflict.
My suggestion is: start from scratch and build a new bidule layout.
=A0
-fabio


=A0
2010/11/3 james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com>
glitch really lives up to its na= me by crashing bidule every time i try to use it.=A0 it'd be great if i= t worked reliably.=A0 anybody else having problems with it?

- jim=20


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Art Simon <sima= rt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Ted,

Be s= ure to check out the free PC VST glitch:
http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/

It's great for beat synced effects.=20


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:46 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn = <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
That does look prett= y cool.

I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch feat= ures and delays and filters (the amp models weren't too bad either).
I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds.

This= changes all that.

Could be a very useful tool.

Now that I am= going laptop it's perfect.

Thanks for sharing the news.=20


On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Tony K wrote:

http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.html

Whoo Hooo!

--
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
Tony

<= /div>



--
Art Simon
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--0016e6d588d73ec3d20494264886-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 13:58:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FB7D3BE85; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bSmjs9EbQtT5haImWsa+sd1+7+V57Od+qpubFlqHLd0=; b=mo7ftc9e/g10DsIX9AYUMERuS7p1uu0e2TaRdYKYoR4wznv17EzUQhXrsnSWkpe+Uf NwkeQPBI9EPuIAJE5SeMmrWghL1Y9iH2/JEM/xPNhBAvfNbjsd3GsB8zEpxzi+Iu1k/f Lo8zocgaCmnDN5B6QG/wgragoiGVEbfvqgJDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dRSLFHrQGEAq7jVVNjEUGdFd9p5YkhGqvycT2ndBmqkWCZwOByT3QjlCB+4HEquNZm mqpUyHUBEGzSRNo2PAawHNlKARAplmIW5pTV8oCcuq3Kldo/l1u35UuIR4fiEHl8vEqz x9zwwTGswTI6Yq2J6pXoPH3gcuGldU3Fb2SMM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20100907174941.A51Y0.10895274.root@mp12> <950263.52214.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:58:01 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Mecca From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a8be005f010494266ecb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:58:04 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a8be005f010494266ecb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Now on Spotify! http://open.spotify.com/album/1G4tuOm5sfbiSLEJzs20Vp On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > And the release is now on iTunes: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/mecca/id393506700 > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ricky Graham > wrote: > > And you can now pre-order. T-shirts available too.. > > > > Pre-order limited edition "Mecca" CD & T-Shirt now: > > http://signalsundertests.bandcamp.com/ > > > > Ricky > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Ricky Graham > > wrote: > >> Cheers Fabio! > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > >>> Agree ! > >>> Good luck with your album, I really like the sound and the fact its > >>> atmosphere is coherent song by song... > >>> > >>> - Fabio > >>> www.eterogeneo.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Per Boysen > wrote: > >>>> > Exciting music you're making there! > >>>> > > >>>> > Greetings from Sweden > >>>> > > >>>> > Per Boysen > >>>> > www.boysen.se > >>>> > www.perboysen.com > >>>> > www.looproom.com internet music hub > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > --001636c5a8be005f010494266ecb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now on Spotify! ht= tp://open.spotify.com/album/1G4tuOm5sfbiSLEJzs20Vp

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
And the release is now on iTunes:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/mecca/id393506700

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ricky Graham
<rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> And you can now pre-order. T-shirts available too..
>
> Pre-order limited edition "Mecca" CD & T-Shirt now:
> h= ttp://signalsundertests.bandcamp.com/
>
> Ricky
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Ricky Graham
> <rickygrahammusic@gma= il.com> wrote:
>> Cheers Fabio!
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Agree !
>>> Good luck with your album, I really like the sound and the fac= t its
>>> atmosphere is coherent song by song...
>>>
>>> - Fabio
>>> www.et= erogeneo.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Exciting music you're making there!
>>>> >
>>>> > Greetings from Sweden
>>>> >
>>>> > Per Boysen
>>>> > ww= w.boysen.se
>>>> > www.perboysen.com
>>>> > www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

--001636c5a8be005f010494266ecb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 14:10:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1BF53BE81; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1288793403; l=9317; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:To: From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=iCtgRgM6U3QusX80w9TJjl5dSIA=; b=vigzkIIHdTY9aQgcIR4NHRnIjo68hrsrkMeLsKgKQ/k3LRyKiAN2EV7iDuL+DcyhPHg rE7ZQhDa+U+9ocyBiKuh3GvezKsZh1n/Qc2rwP+j3NoOGq2OM9lw9BLW6hauqQWI7pUSI CutzCsWfA25wMZ0g5BUA7M+EGb9wtr+5dwE= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWjBOblRsw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <7BE1C7CF3DBC4B9398F5C3318D061D1A@Christojota> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan><4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com><89A00B10-41A6-4558-9CBA-42DDAA60F122@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:09:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01CB7B69.239DAE70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CB7B69.239DAE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now I found the description for getting up to 46 seconds. For those who = didn=B4t know about it - like me: "Pan alternates the delayed signal between the right and left outputs = with each repetition of delay. This is commonly called a "ping pong" = delay. If you set the delay time at 1000ms, the first delay will appear = hard right at 1000ms, the second hard left at 2000ms, the third hard = right at 3000ms, the fourth hard left at 4000ms, etc. You can get up to = 46 seconds of delay from the DD-20 by using this mode and muting one of = the two audio outputs. A jack must be inserted to both outputs or the = stereo effect (and the potential 46-second delay) won't be heard. The = direct sound retains its stereo image, but the effected sound reduces = the stereo input to mono, sending it hard to the left, then hard to the = right." I=B4m excited how it works... Christo From: Jeff Duke=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:32 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) Read all about it! = http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20_review1.html j On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Christo Jota = wrote: Jeff is right. It=B4s really good this way. Didn=B4t know the 46 sec trick that he mentioned. Have to check that... But can=B4t find it in the archive. Does anyone no more about it? Christo From: Jeff Duke=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) Yes that's right. I actually use my toe to operate the feedback knob = :) Light socks or barefoot looper here. It's "trails" feature is always on so when you press the effect off it = keeps playing for as long as you have set the feedback knob. This is = true even if you switch to the next preset.=20 j On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: So, just treat the DD-20 as a really long delay line? Can one = tap-play-tap-overdub? I take it that when off, the delay will keep = playing so you can just set feedback to 100% and turn it off to get a = hold effect? Do you have to reach down and grab the feedback knob to = adjust feedback? Mark On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Christo Jota wrote: > Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be rather done with = the delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can switch > then from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. = Attention: You can NOT switch back to the first used mode > cause the sounds on the first mode will be deleted. That=B4s not = so good with the DD 20. > The delay modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it = on ambient soundscapes. Much better doing these with the > DD 20 than the RC 50. > Nice Day! > Christo > www.christojota.de ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CB7B69.239DAE70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Now I found the description for getting = up to 46=20 seconds. For those who didn=B4t know about it - like me:
"Pan alternates the delayed signal between the = right and=20 left outputs with each repetition of delay. This is commonly called a = "ping=20 pong" delay. If you set the delay time at 1000ms, the first delay will = appear=20 hard right at 1000ms, the second hard left at 2000ms, the third hard = right at=20 3000ms, the fourth hard left at 4000ms, etc. You can get up to 46 = seconds of=20 delay from the DD-20 by using this mode and muting one of the two audio = outputs.=20 A jack must be inserted to both outputs or the stereo effect (and the = potential=20 46-second delay) won't be heard. The direct sound retains its stereo = image, but=20 the effected sound reduces the stereo input to mono, sending it hard to = the=20 left, then hard to the right."
I=B4m excited how it works...
Christo


From: Jeff Duke
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:32 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3)

Read all about it! http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20_review1.html

j

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Christo Jota = <chris@christojota.de> = wrote:
Jeff is right. It=B4s really good this = way.
Didn=B4t know the 46 sec trick that he=20 mentioned.
Have to check that... But can=B4t find it in = the=20 archive.
Does anyone no more about it?
Christo

From: Jeff Duke =
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:42 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3)

Yes that's right. I actually use my toe to operate the = feedback=20 knob :) Light socks or barefoot looper here.

It's "trails" = feature is=20 always on so when you press the effect off it keeps playing for as = long as you=20 have set the feedback knob. This is true even if you switch to the = next=20 preset.

j

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Mark Hamburg = <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
So, just treat the DD-20 as a really long delay = line? Can=20 one tap-play-tap-overdub? I take it that when off, the delay will = keep=20 playing so you can just set feedback to 100% and turn it off to get = a hold=20 effect? Do you have to reach down and grab the feedback knob to = adjust=20 feedback?

Mark

On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Christo = Jota=20 wrote:

> Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be = rather=20 done with the delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can = switch
>=20 then from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. = Attention:=20 You can NOT switch back to the first used mode
> cause the = sounds on=20 the first mode will be deleted. That=B4s not so good with the DD = 20.
>=20 The delay modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on = ambient=20 soundscapes. Much better doing these with the
> DD 20 than the = RC=20 50.
> Nice Day!
> Christo
> www.christojota.de


------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CB7B69.239DAE70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 16:14:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE8B03BE85; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 16:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:14:48 -0500 Subject: RE: mobius scripters...help please.... :O) Thread-Topic: mobius scripters...help please.... :O) Thread-Index: Act7RoIxMnpSSuZXQhyQj5BTb7/B6gAKfD3Q Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271A@barq.sailpoint.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-vipre-scanned: 50AFF9C1001C2550AFFB0E acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271Abarqsailpoi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 16:14:53 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271Abarqsailpoi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > any mobius scripters out there? A few :) > just wondering if it's possible to change loop copy mode > and 8ths per cycle on a track via a script? Yes, every preset parameter can be set in a script. > i'm hoping to be able to do this... > assuming i have hit rec and recorded some audio into track 1... > > rec (to close the loop) > pan left > loop copy mode =3D sound > select next track > set 8ths per cycle =3D 16 > pan right If you want all of this in one script it would be: ---------------------- !name Simeon's Next Track if mode =3D=3D Record Record Wait last set pan 0 set trackCopy sound NextTrack Wait last set pan 127 set 8thsPerCycle 16 endif ------------------------ It might need some adjustments since I'm not at a place where I can test, but that's the basic idea. I'm assuming you meant to set "track copy" mode rather than "loop copy" in order to copy the loop from track one to track 2 with hard panning. The loopCopy parameter only applies when you are switching loops, here you're switching tracks. If you do actually want loopCopy instead of trackCopy just change this: set trackCopy sound to set loopCopy sound The "if mode =3D=3D Record" makes the script run only if you're closing a recording so if you press it accidentally it won't do anything. > i'd also be interested in a slight variation, where both tracks > have their rates set to +12 Add two RateShift statements: ... set trackCopy sound RateShift 12 NextTrack Wait last RateShift 12 Jeff --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271Abarqsailpoi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

> any mobius scripters out there?

 

A few :)

 

> just wondering if it's possible to change loop copy mod= e

> and 8ths per cycle on a track via a script?<= /span>

 

Yes, every preset parameter can be set in a script.

 

> i'm hoping to be able to do this...

> assuming i have hit rec and recorded some audio into tr= ack 1...

>

> rec (to close the loop)

> pan left

> loop copy mode =3D sound

> select next track

> set 8ths per cycle =3D 16

> pan right

 

If you want all of this in one script it would be:

 

----------------------

!name Simeon's Next Track

 

if mode =3D=3D Record

    Record

    Wait last

    set pan 0

    set trackCopy sound

    NextTrack

    Wait last

    set pan 127

    set 8thsPerCycle 16

endif

------------------------

 

It might need some adjustments since I'm not at a place wher= e I

can test, but that's the basic idea.  I'm assuming you = meant

to set "track copy" mode rather than "loop copy" in order to

copy the loop from track one to track 2 with hard panning.&n= bsp; The

loopCopy parameter only applies when you are switching loops= ,

here you're switching tracks.    If you do ac= tually want

loopCopy instead of trackCopy just change this:

 

    set trackCopy sound

 

to

 

    set loopCopy sound

 

The "if mode =3D=3D Record" makes the script run o= nly if you're

closing a recording so if you press it accidentally it<= /o:p>

won't do anything. 

 

 

 

> i'd also be interested in a slight variation, where bot= h tracks

> have their rates set to +12

 

Add two RateShift statements:

 

    ...

    set trackCopy sound

    RateShift 12

    NextTrack

    Wait last

    RateShift 12     = ;

 

 

Jeff

 

--_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271Abarqsailpoi_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 18:55:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56EC63BE84; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD1B00A.4040703@soundscapes.us> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:55:06 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: The Soundscapes Concert Series Presents Chuck van Zyl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:55:10 +0000 (UTC) ANNOUNCEMENT: The Soundscapes Concert Series presents Chuck van Zyl Sunday, December 5, 2010, 8 pm at the Nazareth Center for the Arts ====== Sunday, December 5, the Soundscapes Concert Series returns to the Nazareth Center for the Arts with Chuck van Zyl. Best known as host of Star's End and as coordinator of The Gatherings, Chuck van Zyl has also been making his own unique style of electronic music since 1985. Inspired by the electronic spacemusic of the mid '70s, it was the mentoring of Nightcrawlers founder Peter Gulch that empowered van Zyl to start producing his own music. This led to the release of a series of cassettes which formed the basis of albums released by Centaur Records in the mid 1990s. Doors open at 7:30 pm and the concert is at 8:00 pm. The concert is free. Donations are requested to support the musician and to enable the Nazareth Center for the Arts to pay operating expenses. The NCA is located at 30 Belvidere Street, Nazareth, PA 18064 just off of Route 191 on the southwest corner of Belvidere Street and South Spruce Street. Check the NCA site for parking information. The Soundscapes Concert Series is the concert companion to the Galactic Travels radio program on WDIY and to Thought Radio on WMUH and presents electronic music to the Lehigh Valley. This is the concert series that presented Robert Rich (California), vidnaObmana (Belgium), The Ministry of Inside Things (Philadelphia), Richard Lainhart (New York), Orbital Decay (Quakertown), Modulator ESP (UK), Mikronesia (Philadelphia), The Tangent Project (Philadelphia), Technicolor Travel Agency (Poconos), and Twyndyllyngs (Lehigh Valley) to local audiences. Here is a collection of links that may be used in promoting this concert. Photos, banner, flier, and map links will be added after the October 10th event. CHUCK VAN ZYL: http://www.synkronosmusic.com http://chuckvanzyl.com SOUNDSCAPES: http://soundscapes.us From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 20:17:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D5AF3BE78; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 20:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD1C332.7020508@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:16:50 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 References: <6C3DA88B085C476E9B58B619BC512F51@HAL> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2010 20:17:11.0316 (UTC) FILETIME=[18E3F540:01CB7B94] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: <8YoazC.A.UMB.JNc0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 20:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Please let me know if there are other MIDI controllers on the market I've overlooked. Here's what I found with a quick search. Roland PK-5A HUGE! - 22" x 16" x 4", 17lb. Behringer FCB1010 HUGE! 27" x 9" x 3" Yamaha MFC10 HUGE! 24" x 8" x 6", 8lb. Rocktron All Access BIG! 15.5" x 10.5" x 3.5", 18lb. EXPENSIVE! $880 - $1200 Rocktron MIDI Mate BIG! 19.75" x 5.5" x 2" Rocktron MIDI Exchange Not enough buttons; too many taps to send a particular command. The short answer is that our Rang(TM) III controller will be small (6" x 9"), mindlessly simple to use & competitively priced. On 03-Nov-10 8:27 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:15 AM, list2 wrote: >> .... >> Which brings me to my question: There have been rumors (or perhaps only >> wishes voiced aloud) of a 'Rang side car with additional bonus buttons that >> would allow instant access to more functions. I know you've just completed a >> major product launch and may not want to even discuss this, but is this a >> possibility? If you said "yes" I'd pre-order mine tomorrow. > > Why not implementing midi and a use a midi controller of your own > choice in stead of re-inventing the wheel? You have already so many > good midi controllers on the market and I think most loopers already > have one. -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 21:15:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F8693BE79; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vMHil4c/XfYr+tsB1qlU/EKIDcnbZsbUVSsX3Uni9NY=; b=CJPpdgZZJCMbvlwDt2Q988IIKiRpYHNIGDl2fcwFfyg6mGHY58Jxr6YJC+RiPqdrc4 GEIZB9wKEoeTzxSqZMuurbCg7v6bMtAefNOuAu7Ow0UvdGUDKTg5hciVkQq8mF22XYDS K4t0wUiu1BwgV3DfsNe/D28bDjWJNzyFak6aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eR3dDYa2P8D6st/CWmCapozn0fZ6LC8XzKZGke4QBOfmJjeU4+XOEm9DY8hixZD7+S 8vQOKBg1vcn+TLHwOhc6vsNZwaB6Dy1PMG/YroCzB5f+CQrOOI1BT1ORPkP3U6mx6MJn ynKHoHwkWuQ/bRlZmI02viTd/aTQdjiymP1xY= Message-ID: <4CD1D107.4030307@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 22:15:51 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 References: <6C3DA88B085C476E9B58B619BC512F51@HAL> <4CD1C332.7020508@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: <4CD1C332.7020508@boomerangmusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Mike schrieb: > Please let me know if there are other MIDI controllers on the > market I've overlooked. Here's what I found with a quick search. While I wouldn't say that there are "already so many good MIDI controllers on the market", I'd add: Gordius Little/Big Giant Keith McMillen Softstep Roland FC300 Tech21 MIDI Mouse/Moose And I seem to remember there's something by Voodoo Lab as well. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 21:27:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD58E3BE79; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAPtw0Uxg+I5h/2dsb2JhbAChaMFXhUYEhFeJBhk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,291,1286150400"; d="scan'208,217";a="70837413" X-Previous-IP: 96.248.142.97 Message-Id: <913439FD-CCE3-403E-899E-83B91411E722@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4CD1D107.4030307@googlemail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-24--872564034 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 16:29:24 -0500 References: <6C3DA88B085C476E9B58B619BC512F51@HAL> <4CD1C332.7020508@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD1D107.4030307@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <5v7IfD.A.mcC.PPd0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:27:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-24--872564034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > And I seem to remember there's something by Voodoo Lab as well. That'd be the Ground Control Pro, I think. Jeff --Apple-Mail-24--872564034 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



And I seem to remember there's something by Voodoo Lab as well.

That'd be the Ground Control Pro, I think.

Jeff
--Apple-Mail-24--872564034-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 21:48:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49FDD3BE84; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ggTCYdg6Tr8kunklhyyer94Z14AaAPx0LVqM5IJ2lxI=; b=RKbt9KMe4j1hPmbiL2E3mF+Rz4erYfonjXgAHZYsYiZJ+XpFIAq2KiVkXTVgMNd37Q YgGWDNOOK0FzDJOhtgS+n7BTjY5WwdJ2rx/1tQnaRsNhQzqIdh0sQfqxSnzuRa49hI5L nLcGn4ES4ZpGhbwW3XUCfYPcQDUrgzDSl7CGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UIGmgRooTUhT/gZ52jkxuPNDbFbBuiGkh9mMX6WoR+79qAmtuvI4sfViFiYbxFIh+f sG5q8Q0euqUIlhJyyLpW0/gpJorrot+/HF5uKgJfpTp3dMJXFTMsd19/XnvfJFMqurxE xbZpL4GPRGigmk/AXrLFrmuZmtM0U5Ck2Xgeo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 22:48:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in NYtimes..//boomerang 3... From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e642cf96fe457d04942cff71 Resent-Message-ID: <3Ng2B.A.A0C.mid0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:48:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016e642cf96fe457d04942cff71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkwFry159gZw&feature=3Dshare 2010/11/2 Scott Hansen > i just read a review of Eno's new album in the NYtimes: > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/arts/music/02choice.html?_r=3D1&scp=3D2= &sq=3Dbrian%20eno&st=3Dcse > > good review, i think it's articles like this that majority of non-musicia= ns > in the world will hear of "looping" > article talks about eno using loops to create his music, how he champions > the ambient backgrounds we associate w/ film music, etc... > > the interesting thing i thought, is that he created this album w/ a dj ( > Jon Hopkins) & a guitarist (Leo Abrahams), in various studios > and then sounds like he manipulated stuff after-wards.... > > in one of the posts on The Gear Page, there has been discussion on the > "decline of music (or guitar) mags" in recent yrs, and i was thinking, > hmmm, it would be interesting to read interviews w/ the 2 who worked w/ e= no > in the studio on this....sounds like they did lots of improvs to > create the pieces....of course, if they ask lame questions like "what kin= d > of strings did you use?", kind of hard to get ideas of their process from > this.... > ---- > on the boomerang 3 debate, i believe that Henry Kaiser uses one for his > loops on the "Art of the Stompbox" DVD. he doesn't really go into it too > much > but he does some looping stuff w/ Nels Cline (Nels uses his old > EH16ddl)...HK launches into stuff pretty easy w/ it, i know when he did h= is > instructional dvd > back in early 90s, i think he used his Eventide H3000 for looping > stuff....he doesn't compare or contrast the stuff, but it looks pretty > seamless & easy from > what he's doing, use-wise....and i know he seems to really favor pretty > clean sounds nowadays...even his fuzz use sounds clean to me.... > > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > * > * --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " http://raulbonell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e642cf96fe457d04942cff71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkwFry159gZw&feature=3Dshare
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2010/11/2 Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com>
i just read a review of Eno's new album in the NYtimes:

http://www.nyti= mes.com/2010/11/02/arts/music/02choice.html?_r=3D1&scp=3D2&sq=3Dbri= an%20eno&st=3Dcse

good review, i think it's articles like this that majority of non-m= usicians in the world will hear of "looping"
article talks abo= ut eno using loops to create his music, how he champions the ambient backgr= ounds we associate w/ film music, etc...

the interesting thing i thought, is that he created this album w/ a dj = ( Jon Hopkins) & a guitarist (Leo Abrahams), in various studios
and = then sounds like he manipulated stuff after-wards....

in one of the = posts on The Gear Page, there has been discussion on the "decline of m= usic (or guitar) mags" in recent yrs, and i was thinking,
hmmm, it would be interesting to read interviews w/ the 2 who worked w/ eno= in the studio on this....sounds like they did lots of improvs to
create= the pieces....of course, if they ask lame questions like "what kind o= f strings did you use?", kind of hard to get ideas of their process fr= om this....
----
on the boomerang 3 debate, i believe that Henry Kaiser uses one for= his loops on the "Art of the Stompbox" DVD. he doesn't reall= y go into it too much
but he does some looping stuff w/ Nels Cline (Nels= uses his old EH16ddl)...HK launches into stuff pretty easy w/ it, i know w= hen he did his instructional dvd
back in early 90s, i think he used his Eventide H3000 for looping stuff....= he doesn't compare or contrast the stuff, but it looks pretty seamless = & easy from
what he's doing, use-wise....and i know he seems to = really favor pretty clean sounds nowadays...even his fuzz use sounds clean = to me....

s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen



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I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.lum= inada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina= i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podi= en posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "

http://raulb= onell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e642cf96fe457d04942cff71-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 22:41:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C5CE3BE79; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 22:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1801 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 22:41:51 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: SmBc1f0060ASqTN0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:11:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 In-Reply-To: <4CD1D107.4030307@googlemail.com> References: <6C3DA88B085C476E9B58B619BC512F51@HAL> <4CD1C332.7020508@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD1D107.4030307@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20101103224151.1ED9F3BE75@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3nB4GB.A.xwD.vUe0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 22:41:51 +0000 (UTC) And a couple more: Fractal MFC-101 http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-mfc-101-midi-foot-controller.html Liquid-Foot http://www.liquid-foot.com/products.shtml At 2010.11.03 02:15 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >Mike schrieb: >> Please let me know if there are other MIDI controllers on the >> market I've overlooked. Here's what I found with a quick search. >While I wouldn't say that there are "already so many good MIDI >controllers on the market", I'd add: >Gordius Little/Big Giant >Keith McMillen Softstep >Roland FC300 >Tech21 MIDI Mouse/Moose > >And I seem to remember there's something by Voodoo Lab as well. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 3 23:35:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08DEC3BE84; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 23:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1288827354; bh=GuRC7KUGHAVxR5CWO7x8PQD09udNnhfBcLt3nlrqbQ4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YIasttk2ckMVL8yDYqkE8c6SPc+z5AADydW6d6gInTILuqCyBstfttVwEGa8YvNubJ/xO4Da97eqtQtBW2CwdLD3sEruJrTVVnk66b4hbXfQTFb9j33c3huUKGqOums+maX+XL+4gbYQpnoU86DqXWs8greOUB0ZyewdgqE4wIo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q0TRqMtr+OBWdgJS2T2i/hdkiF/K7hWj0OqwY2zvm7wgyZ4d82OxlSnMgD0MlHwxFk8FFAVEXrHupjK9WutR4HvAZp358+nAFe2K3fdeLDker55BdFpAMZgv54r0nDdB2cdKhBAL3NVvfHKxgbK4Rv+L6+t/HuzgmyNUeUEvKCY=; Message-ID: <598932.53342.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qzfPvaQVM1knQe3fhXFBpshJA_LelSNGeEI1Y6XA46qTy.2 W8MlYHMFSJ.J5uPqitrZrIGu4vJpmr7MCQtdZ_8DxL.NvjeUxzH7FOhd8G8o H09TVQCevqAJAbz9SulaKtwF.P8IY7_P3U_2x1qEhHvC82lorTx.NuERqCrP 26tGm6oWVW9FPPFkjjcGVCrt.P6rJjbsCm3p6quzIOwNHnwnEVWpsMikB1Cr 5mVuBTshGPqsGm12ScH7ZmU0yLv1fzeM4BWwzvLKOOHvU3cAnFSg94gKztA5 YDYf122ZDDL5LW3RV1_t4u8ViV1rkH7n282fxoOy7v4kGYtJ0My77AeO9LqO rFvBHwj6LAxs_ X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.9 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.284920 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 16:35:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Santa Cruz House Concert Spam-Uccello Project To: LOOPER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <5cjR-D.A.ujE.bHf0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 23:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Hello all! Steve Uccello here reminding you about a house concert that I'll be playing at THIS Sunday with singer/songwriter Amy Obenski. It's in Santa Cruz very near to the harbor at Nancy Cassidy's place. There will be a potluck at 4pm and the music will go from 5-7. Come hungry and be ready for some great music! The format will feature each of us playing solo sets. Mine from 4-4:45 and Amy's from 5-6. Please RSVP to this email or call me at 831-801-4920 to get the address. We'd love to see you there! Thanks for your time and if you want to hear either Amy's or my music click on over to... http://steveuccello.com/ or http://www.amyobenski.com/ ps-For those of you too far to attend the show (might be most of you ;) there's always lots of free downloads,streaming music and the latest news over at my blog-Please check out my newest record w/ Australia's Nat Grant-my first ever collaborative album with another artist!! http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 00:29:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E536F3BE85; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 00:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 01:29:45 +0100 Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 X-Originating-Ip: 98.180.40.193 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101104002945.54EB877A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 00:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Hello All, I think both GigRig & Rocktron have midi control gadgets as well. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rainer Straschill > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 > Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 22:15:51 +0100 >=20 >=20 > Mike schrieb: > > Please let me know if there are other MIDI controllers on the=20 > > market I've overlooked. Here's what I found with a quick search. > While I wouldn't say that there are "already so many good MIDI=20 > controllers on the market", I'd add: > Gordius Little/Big Giant > Keith McMillen Softstep > Roland FC300 > Tech21 MIDI Mouse/Moose >=20 > And I seem to remember there's something by Voodoo Lab as well. >=20 > -- http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 01:21:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4F833BE81; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 01:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uZrkepBvff4uBkglc90JPX2shw0w1wnVcdfMjcAcFcc=; b=oboz65lsts5cPK9uVGzPpBdf6e9DP00Al9plp8BstHgWJVuHja4A8EGBGeTrmdyniZ pIGlhlIcah4Ogkqwjsmhy4YHQOmvSjP+gQrAW6wAgrm8IesD3vrrIsX6sK52vH1Qi7lm 71hsaKiRtxKjVf9/ao6ZytxTGQ2ATpHoWKxF4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dtUlbM4ecjN/cQrBYRltf8OH7ay2hafL6GqvD8VAktqNeFprxW8MLjctb1p/x71fEi cBk8LVOH0+ljy0uW+/fP1jxgFsNohMTYocLozkWEAzGLlq7NBLFc6/923nr4VM4BTPe+ 5ke5nicDMEBMop6DEr/zVpY6c37jjFx3p2RTw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <19B271FA-726D-47D3-982F-F1D27CB07BCA@charter.net> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:21:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a9547ffc5604942ff95e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 01:21:18 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a9547ffc5604942ff95e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmmm...but i wonder what could be causing conflict. sync issues? computer hardware can't handle the load? i mean, as soon as i open up the gui everything freezes. it does this in multiple instances and each time the cpu load is low but the bidule patch is pretty big. audio keeps going but = i have to close bidule and i'm asked if i want to send an error report to microsoft blah blah blah. i like glitch. it definitely has it's pitfalls and uses. nothing else out there is quite as good at doing that particular thing that it does. - j On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Fabio_A wrote: > It works perfectly here (bidule/mobius configuration) > See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DreBOeq60CLU > for my live set in Antwerp where I was using 3 dbglitch plugins (post loo= p) > with different sequences at the same time. > > I guess ther's something in your setup that cause a conflict. > My suggestion is: start from scratch and build a new bidule layout. > > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > > 2010/11/3 james fowler > > glitch really lives up to its name by crashing bidule every time i try to >> use it. it'd be great if it worked reliably. anybody else having probl= ems >> with it? >> >> - jim >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Art Simon wrote: >> >>> Hey Ted, >>> >>> Be sure to check out the free PC VST glitch: >>> http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/ >>> >>> It's great for beat synced effects. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:46 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >>> >>>> That does look pretty cool. >>>> >>>> I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delay= s >>>> and filters (the amp models weren't too bad either). >>>> >>>> I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds. >>>> >>>> This changes all that. >>>> >>>> Could be a very useful tool. >>>> >>>> Now that I am going laptop it's perfect. >>>> >>>> Thanks for sharing the news. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Tony K wrote: >>>> >>>> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.html >>>>> >>>>> Whoo Hooo! >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- >>>>> Tony >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Art Simon >>> simart@gmail.com >>> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >>> >> >> > --000e0cd6a9547ffc5604942ff95e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmmm...but i wonder what could be causing conflict.=A0 sync issues?=A0 comp= uter hardware can't handle the load?=A0 i mean, as soon as i open up th= e gui everything freezes.=A0 it does this in multiple instances and each ti= me the cpu load is low but the bidule patch is pretty big.=A0 audio keeps g= oing but i have to close bidule and i'm asked if i want to send an erro= r report to microsoft blah blah blah.=A0

i like glitch.=A0 it definitely has it's pitfalls and uses.=A0 noth= ing else out there is quite as good at doing that particular thing that it = does.

- j

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9= :47 AM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:
It works per= fectly here (bidule/mobius configuration)
for=A0my live set in Antwerp where I was using 3 dbglitch plugins (pos= t loop) with different sequences at the same time.
=A0
I guess ther's something in your setup that cause a conflict.
My suggestion is: start from scratch and build a new bidule layout.
=A0
-fabio


=A0
2010/11/3 james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com>

glitch really liv= es up to its name by crashing bidule every time i try to use it.=A0 it'= d be great if it worked reliably.=A0 anybody else having problems with it?<= br>
- jim=20


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Art Simon <sima= rt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Ted,

B= e sure to check out the free PC VST glitch:
http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/=

It's great for beat synced effects.=20


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:46 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn = <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
That does look pr= etty cool.

I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch f= eatures and delays and filters (the amp models weren't too bad either).=

I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds.

This= changes all that.

Could be a very useful tool.

Now that I am= going laptop it's perfect.

Thanks for sharing the news.=20


On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Tony K wrote:

http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.html
Whoo Hooo!

--
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
Tony

<= /div>



--
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simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon



--000e0cd6a9547ffc5604942ff95e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 02:13:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B89313BE7E; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 02:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=CzA3RFSnYvWu/OxKsDv+7EUFOa89QI6A08/0da/i8siYHJh/YNNya2ShSZcryCwC; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 22:07:15 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in NYtimes..//boomerang 3... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-923285680==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7935258151b11a9cb90e8b26aed6979a78350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 02:13:37 +0000 (UTC) --============_-923285680==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Fucking Hilarious...!! Eno interviews himself in disguise... >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwFry159gZw&feature=share > -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-923285680==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in NYt
Fucking Hilarious...!! Eno interviews himself in disguise...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwFry159gZw&feature=share


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-923285680==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 03:52:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D6433BE84; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 03:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wI45/HEonooSNlkJyY5zukEnmTGlYoMDWKa7k0y3wkE=; b=LJcCiuR/12b0l1FGs5u22RcdtpH8o34WpPUGYe9VjDw0/GqGpBFegOLqTBo1s9lV4u Q3sgqHHMS+ODJ99UqZWPl2PKTT42PgTofG4DeUGrKmFpuwpr/pp2mrPdpVOORGCMAMzI 0u8YIDi7U9okjMwzFJ5/Bea95mNdO40nfEKCU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ljTlZhunqDP/McHJV60iWfVRS0cvlE7YagFMICIcirBhRCJCtDg7wTuVP7NyHE9HRe LL6UOUbMNv6OEL52bx4/OypF3nvCM7JTFLQ7goTGQsPvk7EZ1NXEuFTUcmaXQiiSY/ou z1uny2ibFnNPMwXP10TNmgccAgLEJqjm76J0k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 23:52:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in NYtimes..//boomerang 3... From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175708d29404a90494321772 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 03:52:52 +0000 (UTC) --0015175708d29404a90494321772 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 been done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_URnWdX7_8 On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Fucking Hilarious...!! Eno interviews himself in disguise... > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwFry159gZw&feature=share > > > > -- > > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --0015175708d29404a90494321772 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable been done: http://= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DG_URnWdX7_8

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>= wrote:

--0015175708d29404a90494321772-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 05:40:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 780233BE79; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 05:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d9000368-92bb-4153-9532-ac332323e1ce_" X-Originating-IP: [86.146.109.228] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: AdrenaLinn for PC Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 05:40:09 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<19B271FA-726D-47D3-982F-F1D27CB07BCA@charter.net>,,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2010 05:40:09.0267 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE1E4030:01CB7BE2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 05:40:11 +0000 (UTC) --_d9000368-92bb-4153-9532-ac332323e1ce_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nothing quite does what glithc machine does but breakdown=2C mashup and sid= eslip VST's do interesting adrenalinn type effects. Check them out here: http://www.tweakbench.com/breakdown Peace Gareth Date: Wed=2C 3 Nov 2010 21:21:17 -0400 Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC From: twostroke@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com hmmm...but i wonder what could be causing conflict. sync issues? computer= hardware can't handle the load? i mean=2C as soon as i open up the gui ev= erything freezes. it does this in multiple instances and each time the cpu= load is low but the bidule patch is pretty big. audio keeps going but i h= ave to close bidule and i'm asked if i want to send an error report to micr= osoft blah blah blah. =20 i like glitch. it definitely has it's pitfalls and uses. nothing else out= there is quite as good at doing that particular thing that it does. - j On Wed=2C Nov 3=2C 2010 at 9:47 AM=2C Fabio_A wrote: It works perfectly here (bidule/mobius configuration) See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DreBOeq60CLU =20 for my live set in Antwerp where I was using 3 dbglitch plugins (post loop)= with different sequences at the same time. =20 I guess ther's something in your setup that cause a conflict.=20 My suggestion is: start from scratch and build a new bidule layout. =20 -fabio www.eterogeneo.com =20 2010/11/3 james fowler glitch really lives up to its name by crashing bidule every time i try to u= se it. it'd be great if it worked reliably. anybody else having problems = with it? - jim=20 On Tue=2C Nov 2=2C 2010 at 11:21 AM=2C Art Simon wrote: Hey Ted=2C Be sure to check out the free PC VST glitch: http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/ It's great for beat synced effects.=20 On Tue=2C Nov 2=2C 2010 at 7:46 AM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: That does look pretty cool. I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the synch features and delays and= filters (the amp models weren't too bad either). I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds. This changes all that. Could be a very useful tool. Now that I am going laptop it's perfect. Thanks for sharing the news.=20 On Nov 1=2C 2010=2C at 8:48 PM=2C Tony K wrote: http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.html Whoo Hooo! --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon = --_d9000368-92bb-4153-9532-ac332323e1ce_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nothing quite does what glithc machine does but breakdown=2C mashup and sid= eslip VST's do interesting adrenalinn type effects.
Check them out here:= http://www.tweakbench.com/breakdown

Peace

Gareth

Date: Wed=2C 3 Nov 2010 21:21:17 -0400
Subject: Re: = AdrenaLinn for PC
From: twostroke@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com

hmmm...but i wonder what could be causing conflict.&n= bsp=3B sync issues? =3B computer hardware can't handle the load? = =3B i mean=2C as soon as i open up the gui everything freezes. =3B it d= oes this in multiple instances and each time the cpu load is low but the bi= dule patch is pretty big. =3B audio keeps going but i have to close bid= ule and i'm asked if i want to send an error report to microsoft blah blah = blah. =3B

i like glitch. =3B it definitely has it's pitfalls and uses. = =3B nothing else out there is quite as good at doing that particular thing = that it does.

- j

On Wed=2C Nov= 3=2C 2010 at 9:47 AM=2C Fabio_A <=3Beterogenus@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
It= works perfectly here (bidule/mobius configuration)
for =3Bmy live set in Antwerp where I was using 3 dbglitch plugins= (post loop) with different sequences at the same time.
 =3B
I guess ther's something in your setup that cause a conflict.
My suggestion is: start from scratch and build a new bidule layout.
 =3B
-fabio


 =3B
2010/11/3 james fowler <= =3Btwostroke@gmail.com>=3B

glitch = really lives up to its name by crashing bidule every time i try to use it.&= nbsp=3B it'd be great if it worked reliably. =3B anybody else having pr= oblems with it?

- jim=20


On Tue=2C Nov 2=2C 2010 at 11:21 AM=2C Art Si= mon <=3Bsimart@gmai= l.com>=3B wrote:
Hey Ted= =2C

Be sure to check out the free PC VST glitch:
http://illformed.org/plu= gins/glitch/

It's great for beat synced effects.=20


On Tue=2C Nov 2=2C 2010 at 7:46 AM=2C tEd =AE= KiLLiAn <=3B= tedkillian@charter.net>=3B wrote:
That do= es look pretty cool.

I've owned an Adrenalinn or two and loved the s= ynch features and delays and filters (the amp models weren't too bad either= ).

I just **hated ** the interface and the canned drum sounds.

This= changes all that.

Could be a very useful tool.

Now that I am= going laptop it's perfect.

Thanks for sharing the news.=20


On Nov 1=2C 2010=2C at 8:48 PM=2C Tony K wrote:

http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.= html

Whoo Hooo!

--
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
Tony

<= /div>



--
Art Simon
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= --_d9000368-92bb-4153-9532-ac332323e1ce_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 07:16:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 242513BE84; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 07:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Basic/LRrA/hc9rc9WL3UFE2tf5iB8wAhxR6EucWJWU=; b=tLpzNigqhQ81zyoh0DS5yJ7uYMCUDEDaAaSFEAtjF4V8Ea/exio6ePySl3Mwx8KJ1i Vq7YLxertoBznYG8G80JH2+GCegaYapOIhlEE8FmacPgrX9a4p2DTCSHrefixjNQqjmD L6ooayeXIan3J/4+RTlqqDeTOf7A0MWV6YndE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=llScAirsct6vhSr9qBRwT+i9M5H9msQfEY+d3zvxDctiFTzV/C+RGX/Nq+ezLcHS0y ocBGFL3/zk9YD0S/jAuqb7oSW7q46WOd2iJVzjEKvVIA3Mm95ujkpZxkNjVzVBdS8n2D Qq49dNuGPqHFBSYU+T8Gzn3G5me3aU5qK9tgg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD04B29.5090306@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD05C77.8020409@boomerangmusic.com> <4CD09518.90302@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 08:16:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dream looper (was Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3)) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b88595d62c049434f073 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 07:16:44 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b88595d62c049434f073 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mark your dream has been my dream for a long time loose your dream and you will loose your mind... Matthias dont let us go into the cuckoos nest! On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > My looping setup for several years consisted of a pair of independent (but > brother synced) EDPs. Of late, I've been using the looper in the Line6 M13 > because of convenience. I own an LP1, but it doesn't think quite the way I > do. > > My dream looper (rough thoughts, this list would probably get expanded and > revised with sleep): > > * Stereo or at least stereo friendly. The Line6 pedals are stereo friendly > though not a stereo looper. The EDP is not stereo friendly unless you buy > two and even then some things don't work quite as well -- e.g., threshold > recording. Basically, the rest of my rig is stereo and I'd rather not have > to use a mixer in a portable rig. > > * Pedalboard/floor friendly. Hauling a rack around is a pain. > > * I need to be able to go straight into Overdub at feedback of 100%. This > seems to be the key to creating seamless loops. > > * I want an EDP-style multiply -- i.e., tell it to start multiplying and it > overdubs on new cycles as long as is needed for the multiply period. One > also has to be able exit multiply into overdub. > > * I like the Line6 model for undo -- i.e., it goes back to where you left > it before you started recording or otherwise modifying the loop. This makes > more sense if the loop doesn't decay when not being modified. EDP-style loop > windowing is cool, but it's not as useful. > > * Two separate loops with only one playing at a time and an ability to copy > the audio between them is pretty useful and more flexible than undo. > > * I want a replace mode that allows it to function as a single delay with > then the option to go out of replace into either play or overdub. > > * I like intermediate feedback levels (other than 0% and 100%), but I could > be persuaded to live without them. > > * The ability to mute/stop and then restart the loop is pretty critical. > It's good if it can do this and stay in time or not as the case may be. > > * Double-speed and half-speed are pretty useful. Reverse feels more like a > trick and is less critical for what I do. > > * I've been into Quantized Replace on the EDP since before the LP1 offered > it, but a good implementation -- particularly on a pedal board -- should > recognize that when in Quantized Replace mode, I probably want to mute the > input audio except when I'm replacing. But I would not insist on having > quantized replace on my dream looper if I got much of the other things I > want. > > * I need to be able to synchronize at least two of these things so that > they have cycle lengths that are multiples of one another. That can either > be handled via two or more simultaneous loops in one box or two loopers with > sync capabilities. > > I'm sure more would come to me. I feel some pressure to also try to edit > the list down, however, since there's an aspect of wanting something that is > fairly clear and simple to use. > > Take the EDP, put it in a floor pedal, make it stereo friendly, and revise > the undo and next loop functions a bit and I would probably be quite happy. > But then I also deal with the EDP seeming to be more finicky about audio > levels and... > > Mark > > --001636c5b88595d62c049434f073 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark your dream has been my dream for a long time
loose your dream and y= ou will loose your mind...
Matthias dont let us go into the cuckoos nest= !

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Mark Ha= mburg <mark@grubma= h.com> wrote:
My looping setup = for several years consisted of a pair of independent (but brother synced) E= DPs. Of late, I've been using the looper in the Line6 M13 because of co= nvenience. I own an LP1, but it doesn't think quite the way I do.

My dream looper (rough thoughts, this list would probably get expanded and = revised with sleep):

* Stereo or at least stereo friendly. The Line6 pedals are stereo friendly = though not a stereo looper. The EDP is not stereo friendly unless you buy t= wo and even then some things don't work quite as well -- e.g., threshol= d recording. Basically, the rest of my rig is stereo and I'd rather not= have to use a mixer in a portable rig.

* Pedalboard/floor friendly. Hauling a rack around is a pain.

* I need to be able to go straight into Overdub at feedback of 100%. This s= eems to be the key to creating seamless loops.

* I want an EDP-style multiply -- i.e., tell it to start multiplying and it= overdubs on new cycles as long as is needed for the multiply period. One a= lso has to be able exit multiply into overdub.

* I like the Line6 model for undo -- i.e., it goes back to where you left i= t before you started recording or otherwise modifying the loop. This makes = more sense if the loop doesn't decay when not being modified. EDP-style= loop windowing is cool, but it's not as useful.

* Two separate loops with only one playing at a time and an ability to copy= the audio between them is pretty useful and more flexible than undo.

* I want a replace mode that allows it to function as a single delay with t= hen the option to go out of replace into either play or overdub.

* I like intermediate feedback levels (other than 0% and 100%), but I could= be persuaded to live without them.

* The ability to mute/stop and then restart the loop is pretty critical. It= 's good if it can do this and stay in time or not as the case may be.
* Double-speed and half-speed are pretty useful. Reverse feels more like a = trick and is less critical for what I do.

* I've been into Quantized Replace on the EDP since before the LP1 offe= red it, but a good implementation -- particularly on a pedal board -- shoul= d recognize that when in Quantized Replace mode, I probably want to mute th= e input audio except when I'm replacing. But I would not insist on havi= ng quantized replace on my dream looper if I got much of the other things I= want.

* I need to be able to synchronize at least two of these things so that the= y have cycle lengths that are multiples of one another. That can either be = handled via two or more simultaneous loops in one box or two loopers with s= ync capabilities.

I'm sure more would come to me. I feel some pressure to also try to edi= t the list down, however, since there's an aspect of wanting something = that is fairly clear and simple to use.

Take the EDP, put it in a floor pedal, make it stereo friendly, and revise = the undo and next loop functions a =A0bit and I would probably be quite hap= py. But then I also deal with the EDP seeming to be more finicky about audi= o levels and...

Mark


--001636c5b88595d62c049434f073-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 08:26:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0D753BE84; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 08:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=TD+Mw+Vb1Xov9Qgjq27F4ovUEnXS9t1PhZkRz8NjepE=; b=FZiSROthds4hQUWsonlcfXxc0y1H7bIC2ZR6n2NIQJsfPrDEcm5cFn95iDdkjAmRq3 XkIS4bIipES5eR5tPUkjZbhU4vS9vxZJrSeSel90WhShTYUGvW8vYL6ndGwZtnq0bG9s oV014xdkbKcpzhUl/BKaxh+4rTUVxip4hEDWU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=IyyHRqGaLFsff3Rfo1wbSNC2mwB5xM8M5B/ctmQ9jDr+Op2aG9oiUoptlSXWmXhlN0 gK48F00Hl9PkWHEY8VAsQdOBm+en0zrHQcU3mTCuqUuoTF+GYzauIv3uuQbXwlqbyNwP +gpQ2MA19FFuTXTuBb+04MV/vjg/EkQDNYzf8= From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--832935826 Subject: Possible to Use Per's Mobius/Bidule Sync Trick with Echoloop/Bidule/Live? (Was: Bidule Examples?) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 01:29:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <66f9cc1e0908050543x1d4e174ah23a89290b296a04b@mail.gmail.com> <0E727F2C-92A6-424E-AFD2-56547060F5ED@gmail.com> Message-Id: <21A8E0C1-1CA7-4E2D-8776-E8BDFA854970@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 08:26:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--832935826 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 This is brilliant: (from Per's Bidule archived page explaining his = sync structure) > I also think it=92s cool to set Mobius maximal respectively minimum = tempo to a BPM span I like playing in.=20 > This prevents ending up with a way to fast tempo if starting out a = session by creating an extremely=20 > short first loop (for glitchy stuff) or with a boring slow tempo if = starting out with a very long first loop. I'm wondering A) Can the same be accomplished using Echoloop via some = parameter within either Echoloop or Bidule? B) Can a possible over all strategy (for = someone who wants to be able to switch between starting with a loop in = Echoloop and having drums from a plugin sync to Echoloop OR the reverse, = starting with a drum loop in a plugin and having Echoloop sync to the = drum loop) be to have Bidule set up within Live and simply switch the = Echoloop Midi Sync parameter to "Out" and use an instance of BFD (for = instance) as the drum loop within Bidule listening to Echoloop for the = sync (all heard through a live track that's just armed and not doing = anything) and then when I want to start with a drum loop, switch the = Bidule Echoloop Midi Sync parameter to "Host" then use the instance of = BFD on another Live track s the drums I can then layer over using the = Echoloop within Bidule within the Live track. (I can have two presets of = footswitches for BFD on different channels so I can start and stop loops = from either by switching the footswitch preset. C) Alternatively (back in just Bidule now) = would it be possible to have a few Mater Tempos set up somewhere in = Bidule so I could figure out 3 or 4 tempos I generally like playing in = and set that with a foot press before starting a song. (Not a full = solution, but perhaps part of one.) D) What tempos do you like playing in most? = (For different types of things.) Just curious.=20 Anybody else have any other suggestions for sync schemes with that type = of flexibility? Could use MainStage once there's an EchoLoop AU as well. = Or could learn Mobius, but I checked it out and liked the simplicity and = familiarity of Echoloop. (Bidule's complicated enough.) Also, Per, do you have any screen shots and instructions in your archive = that outline the steps for how switching works in Bidule? (Switching all = sorts of things... midi controllers between plugins, switching audio = routing so I could feed things back and fourth between different = instances of Echoloop, switching control of EDPs from one instance to = another so I don't have to have different foot controller setups for = each on different channels, etc., etc, etc. ) I can go nuts with = switching but it does not at all work as I expect, though I was able to = accomplish some types of switching functions via the matrics, if I = remember correctly form my first go at all of this. (I'm in the process = of rebuilding my Bidule setup from scratch as the one I made last year = won't open.) (I tried the Bidule forum but so far nothing back from that route. ) THANK YOU. ---Christopher On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Christopher Darrow = wrote: >> Bidule >=20 > Maybe you can find some hints here: > http://www.perboysen.com/archives/542 >=20 > Also check the Bidule forum. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--832935826 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 > I also think it=92s cool = to set Mobius maximal respectively minimum tempo to a BPM span I like = playing in. 
> This prevents ending up = with a way to fast tempo if starting out a session by creating an = extremely 
> short first loop (for = glitchy stuff) or with a boring slow tempo if starting out with a very = long first loop.


I'm = wondering A) Can the same be accomplished using Echoloop via some = parameter within either Echoloop or Bidule?
   =                     =    B) Can a possible over all strategy (for someone who wants = to be able to switch between starting with a loop in Echoloop and having = drums from a plugin sync to Echoloop OR the reverse, starting with a = drum loop in a plugin and having Echoloop sync to the drum loop) be to = have Bidule set up within Live and simply switch the Echoloop Midi Sync = parameter to "Out" and use an instance of BFD (for instance) as the drum = loop within Bidule listening to Echoloop for the sync (all heard through = a live track that's just armed and not doing anything) and then when I = want to start with a drum loop, switch the Bidule Echoloop Midi Sync = parameter to "Host" then use the instance of BFD on another Live track s = the drums I can then layer over using the Echoloop within Bidule within = the Live track. (I can have two presets of footswitches for BFD on = different channels so I can start and stop loops from either by = switching the footswitch preset.
       =                    C) = Alternatively (back in just Bidule now) would it be possible to have a = few Mater Tempos set up somewhere in Bidule so I could figure out 3 or 4 = tempos I generally like playing in and set that with a foot press before = starting a song. (Not a full solution, but perhaps part of = one.)
               =            D) What tempos do you like = playing in most? (For different types of things.) Just = curious. 

Anybody else have any other = suggestions for sync schemes with that type of flexibility? Could use = MainStage once there's an EchoLoop AU as well. Or could learn Mobius, = but I checked it out and liked the simplicity and familiarity of = Echoloop. (Bidule's complicated enough.)

Also, = Per, do you have any screen shots and instructions in your archive that = outline the steps for how switching works in Bidule? (Switching all = sorts of things... midi controllers between plugins, switching audio = routing so I could feed things back and fourth between different = instances of Echoloop, switching control of EDPs from one instance to = another so I don't have to have different foot controller setups for = each on different channels, etc., etc, etc. ) I can go nuts with = switching but it does not at all work as I expect, though I was able to = accomplish some types of switching functions via the matrics, if I = remember correctly form my first go at all of this. (I'm in the process = of rebuilding my Bidule setup from scratch as the one I made last year = won't open.)

(I tried the Bidule forum but so = far nothing back from that route. )

THANK = YOU.

---Christopher


=

On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Per Boysen = wrote:

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Christopher Darrow = <thedarrow@gmail.com> = wrote:
Bidule

Maybe you = can find some hints here:
http://www.perboysen.com/ar= chives/542

Also check the Bidule forum.

Greetings from = Sweden

Per = Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


= --Apple-Mail-1--832935826-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 09:15:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B41E93BE89; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 09:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E+9Hl9s/YAmCs7JKHM0E5J7Eryr5B4PefdY1Wy3+ALo=; b=OptwY5uhUKG+Q2gBgIBSSBohiuZEaRebIKcIVw1N6+LLo3iT9KDf3z+T6HUajAW4XO QCuBsRkL9vB0dfjK69xNonlDBoKcJI/lGHR7T2zkeuSox6jNCVnkpKchl+BPFldnqtpn LlJZ9MXf4oGDEr2/UsPkqxgzHzfYN7UZt2jSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=g5Q7r4iZ+fokMcvvh7feEtfUgyvkBr7UDiOS5d2u4MWwAzYQ+gL/GDsVpL3YYBiWSJ kbcziQ9tlk24r8BXoLKvBm3qdLwII97kUB5QqgTobz2O105CaT/4Aoq6IqX2KjhCn8LV l9VreZ3V7F9Wjnz7QcVrkKvu+TGJ4LgidrfzA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <21A8E0C1-1CA7-4E2D-8776-E8BDFA854970@gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0908050543x1d4e174ah23a89290b296a04b@mail.gmail.com> <0E727F2C-92A6-424E-AFD2-56547060F5ED@gmail.com> <21A8E0C1-1CA7-4E2D-8776-E8BDFA854970@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:15:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Possible to Use Per's Mobius/Bidule Sync Trick with Echoloop/Bidule/Live? (Was: Bidule Examples?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 09:15:31 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > D) What tempos do you like playing in most? (For different types of things.) > Just curious. No particular tempi, but generally I play inside a technical tempo range between 60 and 120 BPM. With "technical" I mean what the looper and effects think is the temp. The MUSICAL tempo may be the half or double as fast. > Also, Per, do you have any screen shots and instructions in your archive > that outline the steps for how switching works in Bidule? I only use one method for "switching" and that is to deactivate a full system of objects while activating a new system. Each system is a complete signal routing setup in its own right. In Bidule I'm using the Audio Switcher object to do this; I send in a MIDI Program Change to tell the Audio Switcher what lower tag to connect the upper input to. In Mainstage it is built into the functionality by changing patch. Mainstage is faster because this host pre loads all plug-ins used in all patches into RAM, while Bidule has to reload the plug-ins as you change to a new system. I like the Reverb Tail Preservation in Bidule better as you can program it to not close the old patch's audio until it has naturally faded out, but I still prefer using Mainstage because I find it more CPU friendly and better sounding (thanks to all the built-in Logic plug-ins) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 11:07:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB86E3BE80; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 11:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=uESSSoDEku2quKX/oFXS2Smn5+55LTFcWFr5T5T8nFs= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=2OaJESjHOi3Z9tBT9oBKkw==:17 a=gbNtLxI7AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=S1UhkyaO1vo9Qod1mvoA:9 a=paSeNHSvsHWOYvqvkzM3UVyT6DQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=G9w7dO6vw_QA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=2OaJESjHOi3Z9tBT9oBKkw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.70.61.240 From: "list2" To: References: <4CD1C332.7020508@boomerangmusic.com> Subject: RE: Boomerang 3 Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 07:07:13 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Act7+uncXN/VjDCwTh2I4wTDP1+WEQAFGsyQ In-Reply-To: <4CD1C332.7020508@boomerangmusic.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 11:07:16 +0000 (UTC) This is fantastic news! Are you taking orders yet? I'll call my dealer today. -----Original Message----- From: Mike [mailto:mnelson@boomerangmusic.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 4:17 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 The short answer is that our Rang(TM) III controller will be small (6" x 9"), mindlessly simple to use & competitively priced. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 12:20:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0881D3BE86; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=rM/Z7k4f7Qn/SisVm+NWwR2xhBb6ey7wIfhAV/ym85AqYu0Pp9yJ31oWDntXfKuu; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 08:20:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in NYtimes..//boomerang 3... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-923249255==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79cb4313334a38441a3c175b91b98064af350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: <506g8.A.AWB.bUq0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:20:43 +0000 (UTC) --============_-923249255==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Oh, please....that's not even close...!! >been done: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_URnWdX7_8 > >On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Charles Zwicky ><cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote: > >Fucking Hilarious...!! Eno interviews himself in disguise... > > >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwFry159gZw&feature=share >> > > >-- > >... >http://www.zmix.net > >http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > >http://albumcredits.com/zmix -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-923249255==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in NYt
Oh, please....that's not even close...!!

been done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_URnWdX7_8
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Fucking Hilarious...!! Eno interviews himself in disguise...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwFry159gZw&feature=share


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http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

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--============_-923249255==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 12:23:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E03763BE81; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: AdrenaLinn for PC Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:23:52 +0100 Message-ID: <11830F436C114E45AE2FCF348F9213F0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0086_01CB7C23.86BCA280" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Act8Gr+TE7GoVJZARAKMh6B/jpfgTwAAB6SQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.4.92; VDF: 7.10.13.114) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:23:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01CB7C23.86BCA280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit still looking for a plugin that could replace the Korg Slicer ... Glitch can do some of what Slicer does but it doesn't do the "harmonic slicing" with the harmonizing (lower octave for example) that the Slicer does. Slices with a lower octave create grooves, I love that effect. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01CB7C23.86BCA280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
still=20 looking for a plugin that could replace the Korg Slicer ... Glitch = can do=20 some of what Slicer does but it doesn't do the "harmonic slicing" with = the=20 harmonizing (lower octave for example) that the Slicer does. Slices with = a lower=20 octave create grooves, I love that effect.
 
-Michael
------=_NextPart_000_0086_01CB7C23.86BCA280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 12:41:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF93D3BE89; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 335 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 12:41:56 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at waste.org Message-ID: <4CD2A8C0.6030309@waste.org> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 07:36:16 -0500 From: crash User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com, Loopers-Delight-d@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V10 #831 References: <20101104054012.4A37C3BE8B@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20101104054012.4A37C3BE8B@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:41:56 +0000 (UTC) We interrupt this loopers delight thread with an announcement of 3 ambient looping projects I'm releasing at once that you can listen to for free at bandcamp (streamed). http://aliensporebomb.bandcamp.com/ All of the music is me on electric guitar, gk3 hex pickup into a roland vg-99 with custom patches into the augustus loop audio looper. The VG is really an amazing box I must say. What sounds like synthesizer is actually HEAVILY processed guitar. Check it out if you like. It's the kind of thing that you could listen to while working, studying, etc. Hope you enjoy. -Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 12:49:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6658C3BE86; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:49:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uTZ1vtlUQsD/qZjy6OvqBFzmnA3zcCMXsg70Bi5FSAw=; b=Cuvg5jLMr6jcqcBlQrHZzFcA5E3HfQWQFnlKWpZoQq5YAKIAkctM8fAwRXJ+ENJMVf ekWqjEiJolNjAmdCZgSOBIUPCfLLqu8Isgr+qQwc033dJWGCh41P+Abm0P9nxY2SM/Tx 3w1fQ185hlmUIvMqcGFetz1YVgS6aCnS5C82w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wtCUgCAIIBz7rxw0RpRRF6dyXMckKMWKOgL8puoSiSdF6uU5D5/eW/g0YwfM8e0+zR ylqKVHOWTvRd+JLO17UoAawe/GqGfh4IxDT1wG4r/CzfGja5TR+RsdRorLB4qpoOAK8x GObYz/1usxbjzOLcqvxLugrRpP3MGkPYz5sRI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <11830F436C114E45AE2FCF348F9213F0@mpeserver> References: <11830F436C114E45AE2FCF348F9213F0@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:49:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:49:36 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > still looking for a plugin that could replace the Korg Slicer=C2=A0... Gl= itch can > do some of what Slicer does but it doesn't do the "harmonic slicing" with > the harmonizing (lower octave for example) that the Slicer does. Slices w= ith > a lower octave create grooves, I love that effect. Since you talk about Glitch I'm guessing you are running stuff under Windows? I don't understand if you intend to slice up the live audio input stream or the looper output stream? But in case you think about slicing up looper output I'd just like to mention that if using Mobius one can have a lot of fun with scripts that combine SUSsubstitute, speed, overdub etc according to a rhythmic pattern grid you define by number of sub cycles placed between the command lines in the script. If talking live audio input slicing I can only recommend any tremolo plug-in. You may assign an expression pedal to play the musical speed of the tremolo and that can be quite cool for poly rhythm texture building in a looper. SoundToys have an excellent plug-in for this purpose called Tremolator. But to me the Mainstage built-in Tremolo plug-in is just as good. The difference is that Tremolator can be set up not only to slice a passing stream according to note values but also according to patterns or "riffs". SoundToys are now available for both Windows, Mac and in Protools (RTAS). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 13:08:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 192BA3BE7E; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 517664869/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.190.28/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.190.28 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkBAIZN0kxV0r4c/2dsb2JhbAAHk2vMAoVGBI1S X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,295,1286146800"; d="scan'208";a="517664869" Message-ID: <4CD2B069.90807@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:08:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC References: <11830F436C114E45AE2FCF348F9213F0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <11830F436C114E45AE2FCF348F9213F0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:08:58 +0000 (UTC) control Mathons Chopitch from a simple step sequencer. At least, that would give you beat sliced pitch shift. I'm not familiar with the KOrg unit, so don't know if it will get the exact effect. andy Michael Peters wrote: > still looking for a plugin that could replace the Korg Slicer ... Glitch > can do some of what Slicer does but it doesn't do the "harmonic slicing" > with the harmonizing (lower octave for example) that the Slicer does. > Slices with a lower octave create grooves, I love that effect. > > -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 13:55:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99BAA3BE79; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R3AiXLhqoAnnhiOhjDjt6wh+NVVxsWw1ckeh9MIRjAo=; b=rTBn5aIBoTx+ELg+AJ8ygOhTH72jzR0NZ5UQ4Wllv0LSp+uKOtwEOvRNZJplR0tEiD 6uVok1ySeqytaPMzCWNerw0fqrHJHfRFR2h3mHgcnJZvf8TWvDl3QX1sweKPfuVlyWcU OEziG+GSVOxzqRqWbz5L6c8DehT4VhL0GUQ2E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=r0aXYPxk50EcrS7JjmuGbeoRb6C0IPVsGNk1GWByg29b44oDQ0ctIRAnMabcoWK4Pl lHI7a0vkUtnIJB8ozfndz8j7DP2HQWqJ5K7j5z7XYllrQLo3yMJjFNKk263m2Sz7FPOL TBjgUm6T1IWwxBf7Y6Wn2H1Gx3WL5vCjBB0Ro= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271A@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271A@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:54:59 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius scripters...help please.... :O) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750d928fa366c04943a80d5 Resent-Message-ID: <4OBoCB.A.CMD.0sr0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:55:00 +0000 (UTC) --00151750d928fa366c04943a80d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks jeff! with a little experimentation and frowning at the script manual, i was able to achieve what i wanted to do another question about mobius though... no matter what i do, i cant seem to get rate shifts and reverse to quantise to the loop cycle...they always happen instantly. would i need to use a small script using the wait last command to make this happen? thanks sim On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > > any mobius scripters out there? > > > > A few :) > > --00151750d928fa366c04943a80d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks jeff!

with a little experimentation and frowning at the scrip= t manual, i was able to achieve what i wanted to do

another question= about mobius though...

no matter what i do, i cant seem to get rate= shifts and reverse to quantise to the loop cycle...they always happen inst= antly. would i need to use a small script using the wait last command to ma= ke this happen?

thanks

sim

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010= at 4:14 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:

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> any mobius scripters out there?

=A0

A few :)


--00151750d928fa366c04943a80d5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 14:09:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 176C13BE84; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=46Hiu7nT0nQ8r7aFnCJTwyGaDws/uvVEkDPYdN4i+WE=; b=r46i5e1ehopVxwpKAGxLoQAcToLWq5853u2hE/QvWEcDUMH1bbarWEi57zho+101VO dpF07LzELGERavAMr3ozswDFx+f5LbruKoGNATfJYUDv7onk/OP3e0P3m+0YgH6JCGQu Gu/cWr7nUu+VnPALIWcyggpyOjnGTr26+/c9M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QYL8IEqjc7qufeO1YIY8JLUHysTyaFXO30bJ3HpK84sMNW8PZ1kw1HnKLep8h56voK 22lVOVWwEN3PdGhnlpjzMyCXIXN8AGIKYxqMmYh2yZXVLngoxE3LjaF1vtJQ8yOYaqtS 3QM1nIiPHFb8wgBki9PAiONiqGV5vJzQxT5Qs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271A@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:09:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius scripters...help please.... :O) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:09:24 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > no matter what i do, i cant seem to get rate shifts and reverse to quantise > to the loop cycle...they always happen instantly. would i need to use a > small script using the wait last command to make this happen? Here's how I would write that in a script (if running Mobius in non quantize mode, that is). Note that the example is not a complete script: ____________ Wait cycle Substitute Wait cycle next <--> here anything that follows will occur on the next Cycle cusp <--> ____________ That example was for Substitute. Here's an example of a complete script I use for Reverse as well as going into Overdub Mode while at the reversed playback direction: ____________ !name Reverse Overdub Cycle Message Reverse On Next Cycle And Overdub Wait cycle Overdub Reverse next ____________ I like to generally run the looper at the Quantize setting Subcycle, so for me the script above lets me perform the action of Reverse + Overdub at the Cycle resolution as a one-shot, without the need of changing my Quantize setting. Very useful. But honestly, shouldn't these kind of discussions rather be held over at the Mobius forum? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 14:17:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5E043BE85; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <55A7CB3A0F1C4AA49874212FA877D4F9@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in NYtimes..//boomerang 3... Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:17:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01CB7C2B.0DAEAB60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:17:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CB7C2B.0DAEAB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BFRe: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in NYtWhatta = scream. =E2=80=9CPork Magazine=E2=80=9D. Well done. From: Charles Zwicky=20 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:20 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in = NYtimes..//boomerang 3... Oh, please....that's not even close...!! been done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DG_URnWdX7_8 On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Charles Zwicky = wrote: Fucking Hilarious...!! Eno interviews himself in disguise... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkwFry159gZw&feature=3Dshare -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --=20 ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CB7C2B.0DAEAB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in = NYt
Whatta scream.  =E2=80=9CPork Magazine=E2=80=9D.  Well = done.
 
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Subject: Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review = in=20 NYtimes..//boomerang 3...
 
Oh, please....that's not even close...!!
 
been done: http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DG_URnWdX7_8
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Charles = Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> = wrote:
Fucking Hilarious...!! Eno interviews himself in=20 disguise...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkwFry159gZw&feature=3Dshare
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From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:22:55 +0000 (UTC) I just noticed that Brian is using Augustus Loop in Logic in the opening shot of that video. W00t! os. On 4 November 2010 14:17, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Whatta scream.=A0 =93Pork Magazine=94.=A0 Well done. > > From: Charles Zwicky > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:20 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in > NYtimes..//boomerang 3... > > Oh, please....that's not even close...!! > > > been done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DG_URnWdX7_8 > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Charles Zwicky > wrote: > > Fucking Hilarious...!! Eno interviews himself in disguise... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkwFry159gZw&feature=3Dshare > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 14:34:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90EAF3BE7E; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DRjbPHl4OVoUvdkGQnz2ga0LV8+ZoZ/1yb1NzrDfng4=; b=bry2UKZU/uDRydouPVdw1SxSHJrkmiMqCdFMtzVBufDOVoyAIiy/QLNxy70IlAAgp3 v/rdsbRZ6Bw9uenNGCUHG8ykgc/2HTYkjgp+AoB9Uks2gMt5g7Dsg7aNswYvEkRIcjSb FFqbBxbISRvjYEkM0POa1/uVHTAzOSipAe1C0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Jsx6oaKNu3koV0IOfHvBrP3UdYiYq/B+p1XRNy08Gu0fsLCVyxs6AEHqDKm2UEZUhW 1tw3THSsf5sBUhYubSE6xNAqtzoHLnIF+uKynETxrIxHDReTZOcg1axW9mw5gUe5LOcg Ao1TS3vKpzLvl7IysZTJF+3wsRiHY63beHW8I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <55A7CB3A0F1C4AA49874212FA877D4F9@ELUK1> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:34:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Brian Eno's:"Small Craft on a Milk Sea"-review in NYtimes..//boomerang 3... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <1lBQFC.A.B-D.OSs0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:34:54 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Os wrote: > I just noticed that Brian is using Augustus Loop in Logic in the > opening shot of that video. > > W00t! Doesn't surprise me. I love the combo of Augustus in Logic. It is like having it all at our fingertips for "music design" on a drawing desk of laser surgery accuracy. :-) Augustus is one of few looper plug-ins that allows you to shift speed/rate simultaneously, i.e. not tonally quantized to halftone steps. I like to run several instances of Augsustus on several Logic aux busses, send signal to them all and then automate them to slide into forming all kind of chords and clusters. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 14:42:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24DDD3BE78; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=8u8q12iH-OUA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=bVS5v0fuaVJZUvZanYoA:9 a=gqZpipcz319Ednwo8NzpKqkIzHYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <965968EF-80FA-4E6C-8954-F6A371107B32@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4CD2A8C0.6030309@waste.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V10 #831 Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 07:42:46 -0700 References: <20101104054012.4A37C3BE8B@arsenic.violacea.com> <4CD2A8C0.6030309@waste.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <6Hm_lB.A.oIE.sZs0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Enjoyed the whole thing while I was reading Bill Moyers this morning. I shared the link on FB too. Nice stuff. On Nov 4, 2010, at 5:36 AM, crash wrote: > We interrupt this loopers delight thread with an announcement of 3 > ambient looping projects I'm releasing at once that you can listen > to for free at bandcamp (streamed). > > http://aliensporebomb.bandcamp.com/ > > All of the music is me on electric guitar, gk3 hex pickup into a > roland vg-99 with custom patches into the augustus loop audio > looper. The VG > is really an amazing box I must say. > > What sounds like synthesizer is actually HEAVILY processed guitar. > Check it out if you like. It's the kind of thing that you could > listen to while working, > studying, etc. > > Hope you enjoy. > > -Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 14:50:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 762D93BE8E; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7mLDN8sX/hEdk+dC+cx5vapzq3yRPlycxZfTvRQ9xfg=; b=iDWl9OdIqymORDVtvImvsMuia7jFFeDjYM65WCia8iZGa8sK6dA3jtPlYH0CHSAbLM +pv1aQdgtvAiARdVfbkMjH9OX6tfF7LraclYS7mraGlfyG/exynhpg6QoXrPybNyV0pe RTC+htyCw2dmc/o/YHw9Z2Sb/XEJUNi5rH7Ss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=l0ETo5fu/AGRchJN0iEsKEgOkZiizmj7rNktC6QnvVqXqXMGAkgENPxOC6KvPhW3Sx MyV7lKtr+pI5Fxf+wTpni1U0RpvH+Zi24vsKeomnpYXmCkzRDvefFOQIkbALGHBlezfp bE/5gEyyC8DeuNNG4SrHttm3bvDcIPQvgUS34= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271A@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:50:51 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius scripters...help please.... :O) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd486b2c16cd004943b4816 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:50:52 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd486b2c16cd004943b4816 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks per i have tried posting questions over at the forum, but the response is always very very slow.... On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > no matter what i do, i cant seem to get rate shifts and reverse to > quantise > > to the loop cycle...they always happen instantly. would i need to use a > > small script using the wait last command to make this happen? > > > Here's how I would write that in a script (if running Mobius in non > quantize mode, that is). Note that the example is not a complete > script: > > --000e0cd486b2c16cd004943b4816 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks per

i have tried posting questions over at the forum, but the= response is always very very slow....

On= Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> no matter what i do, i cant seem to get rate shifts and reverse to qua= ntise
> to the loop cycle...they always happen instantly. would i need to use = a
> small script using the wait last command to make this happen?


Here's how I would write that in a script (if running Mobius in n= on
quantize mode, that is). Note that the example is not a complete
script:

--000e0cd486b2c16cd004943b4816-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 14:53:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F01F23BE8D; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=vitySrlnnw8uA5S97Y4KMsGO21lTVOveTENP/zrMa/k=; b=xZ+nZkrXOSksUFyMmq37JAGcWVgr5KaZDgaAFpH3wlxvinFUr/j2V6weMRXYhBG+LW ko0U8gF45fYA5llvdWVJGbNTcO9/xt42rWtcSESwAymxFCamoVb14mgoFqccL975F4M/ /nVzUNhOnneRW3VmudobUgCB+7Z4zL6IMBbYk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=M5uVLJ5gYTQ7+UnYkRit5lIAt+r9zwrudzNPARcwNrYIqAM+eShcBdZTkmXuG8UVR8 OWY/TsZkWhzN3XIuTXvxEmCcqDwwcXN6wNR1IY3IGedSeIJILYVv+ifnJCQ4v1+n8vFf aIyawZqmrGRm7zbZvWWPPQ+KC60/yHnWqN0Sg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4CD2A8C0.6030309@waste.org> References: <20101104054012.4A37C3BE8B@arsenic.violacea.com> <4CD2A8C0.6030309@waste.org> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:52:57 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: R30Fea7E1wknwKHYF2HZR0iUNkw Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V10 #831 From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68de24a45f35004943b50e2 Resent-Message-ID: <0PxSjB.A.aZE.Ljs0MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:52:59 +0000 (UTC) --0016e68de24a45f35004943b50e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cool sound man. I dig. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:36 AM, crash wrote: > We interrupt this loopers delight thread with an announcement of 3 ambient > looping projects I'm releasing at once that you can listen to for free at > bandcamp (streamed). > > http://aliensporebomb.bandcamp.com/ > > All of the music is me on electric guitar, gk3 hex pickup into a roland > vg-99 with custom patches into the augustus loop audio looper. The VG > is really an amazing box I must say. > > What sounds like synthesizer is actually HEAVILY processed guitar. Check > it out if you like. It's the kind of thing that you could listen to while > working, > studying, etc. > > Hope you enjoy. > > -Todd > > --0016e68de24a45f35004943b50e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool sound man. I dig.

On Thu, Nov 4, 20= 10 at 8:36 AM, crash <crash@waste.org> wrote:
=A0We interrupt this loopers delight thread with an announcement of 3 ambie= nt looping projects I'm releasing at once that you can listen to for fr= ee at bandcamp (streamed).

http://al= iensporebomb.bandcamp.com/

All of the music is me on electric guitar, gk3 hex pickup into a roland vg-= 99 with custom patches into the augustus loop audio looper. =A0The VG
is really an amazing box I must say.

What sounds like synthesizer is actually HEAVILY processed guitar. =A0Check= it out if you like. =A0It's the kind of thing that you could listen to= while working,
studying, etc.

Hope you enjoy.

-Todd


--0016e68de24a45f35004943b50e2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 15:30:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A82533BE79; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD2D177.2040608@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:29:59 -0500 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 References: <4CD1C332.7020508@boomerangmusic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2010 15:30:02.0810 (UTC) FILETIME=[265051A0:01CB7C35] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:30:04 +0000 (UTC) On 04-Nov-10 6:07 AM, list2 wrote: > This is fantastic news! 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PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 18:02:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD8E33BE87; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:01:34 -0500 Subject: RE: mobius scripters...help please.... :O) Thread-Topic: mobius scripters...help please.... :O) Thread-Index: Act8J+G/sKLAYS5+TmyoYCoeMMDJeAAIkQIw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E2BEF@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271A@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-vipre-scanned: 56381587001C2F563816D4 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E2BEFbarqsailpoi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:02:55 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E2BEFbarqsailpoi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > no matter what i do, i cant seem to get rate shifts and reverse to > quantise to the loop cycle...they always happen instantly. would i > need to use a small script using the wait last command to make this > happen? The scripts Per posted will work, but can also just set the Quantize preset parameter to Cycle, Subcycle, or Loop. If you can live with having a single quantization value for all functions then this is all you need. The problem a lot of people have with the Quantize parameter is that they want different quantization for each function. For example you might want cycle quantized Reverse you might not want any quantization on Replace. Using scripts you can change the effective quantization for any function but it can be a bit tedious to set up. Start by determining if there is a quantization setting you would use most of the time and set the Quantize parameter to that value. Then for each function you want to have a different quantization setting write a script like this (Per's example): !name Cycle Quant Reverse Wait cycle Reverse or this slightly more complicated example: !name Cycle Quant Reverse Variable saveQuantize quantize set quantize cycle Reverse set quantize saveQuantize The difference between these is subtle and has to do with latency compensation. In the first example output latency compensation can't be done because we've waited until exactly the cycle boundary before starting to process the change in direction. In the second example we temporarily override the quantization setting rather than waiting, this allows us to schedule the Reverse function ahead of time so that latency compensation can be performed. In practice if you're using an audio device with low latency you probably won't notice the difference. Jeff --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E2BEFbarqsailpoi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> no matter what i do, i cant seem to get rate shifts and reverse to

> quantise to the loop cycle...they always happen instant= ly. would i

> need to use a small script using the wait last command = to make this

> happen?

 

The scripts Per posted will work, but can also just set the Quantize

preset parameter to Cycle, Subcycle, or Loop.  If you c= an live

with having a single quantization value for all functions th= en

this is all you need.

 

The problem a lot of people have with the Quantize parameter= is that

they want different quantization for each function.  Fo= r example you

might want cycle quantized Reverse you might not want <= /o:p>

any quantization on Replace.

 

Using scripts you can change the effective quantization for = any function

but it can be a bit tedious to set up.  Start by determ= ining if there

is a quantization setting you would use most of the time and=

set the Quantize parameter to that value.  Then for eac= h function you

want to have a different quantization setting write a script like

this (Per's example):

 

   !name Cycle Quant Reverse

   Wait cycle

   Reverse

 

or this slightly more complicated example:=

 

   !name Cycle Quant Reverse

   Variable saveQuantize quantize

   set quantize cycle

   Reverse

   set quantize saveQuantize

 

The difference between these is subtle and has to do with latency

compensation.  In the first example output latency comp= ensation can't

be done because we've waited until exactly the cycle boundar= y before

starting to process the change in direction.  In the se= cond example we

temporarily override the quantization setting rather than waiting,

this allows us to schedule the Reverse function ahead of tim= e so that

latency compensation can be performed.

 

In practice if you're using an audio device with low latency= you

probably won't notice the difference. 

 

Jeff

 

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I don't remember the price. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 > Please let me know if there are other MIDI controllers on the market I've > overlooked. Here's what I found with a quick search. > > Roland PK-5A > HUGE! - 22" x 16" x 4", 17lb. > > Behringer FCB1010 > HUGE! 27" x 9" x 3" > > Yamaha MFC10 > HUGE! 24" x 8" x 6", 8lb. > > Rocktron All Access > BIG! 15.5" x 10.5" x 3.5", 18lb. > EXPENSIVE! $880 - $1200 > > Rocktron MIDI Mate > BIG! 19.75" x 5.5" x 2" > > Rocktron MIDI Exchange > Not enough buttons; too many taps to send a particular command. > > The short answer is that our Rang(TM) III controller will be small (6" x > 9"), mindlessly simple to use & competitively priced. > > On 03-Nov-10 8:27 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:15 AM, list2 wrote: >>> .... >>> Which brings me to my question: There have been rumors (or perhaps only >>> wishes voiced aloud) of a 'Rang side car with additional bonus buttons >>> that >>> would allow instant access to more functions. I know you've just >>> completed a >>> major product launch and may not want to even discuss this, but is this >>> a >>> possibility? If you said "yes" I'd pre-order mine tomorrow. >> >> Why not implementing midi and a use a midi controller of your own >> choice in stead of re-inventing the wheel? You have already so many >> good midi controllers on the market and I think most loopers already >> have one. > > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 23:40:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3BDD3BE84; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 23:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD3444E.4070900@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 19:39:58 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 23:40:02 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Dan Pound. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 4 23:43:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC8A53BE81; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 23:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4t1zhbvOzm2KH+xHIxU1vEbjiKR3vHBifWa4zQPGlrw=; b=J0i6cSCWTsyB3X4IKwPCTka2342Hzcv2JxfCB3qehmqncHgo6IRVrW7SakS2SVw/HR aLttVaZura0hnePJhLoXgGgayiNC1U+ve3JDjYduwvAybfvznS7Gnlfl2LKovUxrNZ3i EFPFljl0agr7Oh9O+c6LTcC8D5Csph262wDyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=G0xVPYQaQiYQ8KV/w8uRp2b9GqADgyDjwYXiTPImsPgQrFxSpAR6xkVAQCfu/fu6KS zQAS2+soxD1PjSX74opcmsod9sGk/La9yNJpPs3JePbkmyhjYpRAB4DTp6AYrm/NBQrU COKiIw+FRcDtQ/bO1GVar2BqR2phDHgQTjjZI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 16:43:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Exploratory question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 23:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Hello everyone, I'm testing the waters here to see if there is any interest in a used white 2.2 ghz Macbook with 4 GB RAM that is two years old (still has Apple Care until May). This has the firewire port so its good there but it doesn't have the video card (its integrated video). I'm not 100% positive I want to go through the hassle of selling it, but I do sort of need a Mac with a video card so I'm wondering if anyone would want to buy a used MB and what it would be worth to you. If no one is actually interested themselves, can any Mac people give me an idea of what they might expect this to be worth if I had to go to the cold outside world to peddle my way upwards? If only I were content to just make music on this Mac...... Thanks for the diversion. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 00:16:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBBA83BE87; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 00:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1011040232 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-11-04_12:2010-11-05,2010-11-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Message-id: <905366E942074A1AAED0701A7C8C55C8@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Exploratory question Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:15:23 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: <9HQbv.A.ryG.Vz00MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 00:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Just type the specs into ebay. Best way to find a price on something. MacBooks are quite popular BTW. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: OT: Exploratory question Hello everyone, I'm testing the waters here to see if there is any interest in a used white 2.2 ghz Macbook with 4 GB RAM that is two years old (still has Apple Care until May). This has the firewire port so its good there but it doesn't have the video card (its integrated video). I'm not 100% positive I want to go through the hassle of selling it, but I do sort of need a Mac with a video card so I'm wondering if anyone would want to buy a used MB and what it would be worth to you. If no one is actually interested themselves, can any Mac people give me an idea of what they might expect this to be worth if I had to go to the cold outside world to peddle my way upwards? If only I were content to just make music on this Mac...... Thanks for the diversion. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 00:47:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 277513BE79; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 00:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3jtQBdTzPyV+fq4oCU/u8ZPrJJGN11HvhaDVxyWhycI= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=2OaJESjHOi3Z9tBT9oBKkw==:17 a=S3FpMwQbHwQMTtwisIcA:9 a=zcAcczNtB9LniHs94LdSDevnDeAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=JNEtnUUiB8-_zUVF:21 a=AsR5w6sSPc0F0UPf:21 a=2OaJESjHOi3Z9tBT9oBKkw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.70.61.240 From: "Hoby Ebert" To: References: <4CD2D177.2040608@boomerangmusic.com> Subject: RE: Boomerang 3 Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 20:47:22 -0400 Message-ID: <6065421C92F444C8B3921DD9C778942F@HAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Act8eZFSTc2Ow2gmQtmFo78HCgtOOQACAlxg In-Reply-To: <4CD2D177.2040608@boomerangmusic.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 00:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Don't worry, Mike. I didn't really call them. I was just expressing my unbridled enthusiasm. I'll be waiting patiently for your announcement, passing the time by becoming intimately familiar with the 'Rang and daydreaming about the exponential increase in fun, fun looping fun when the companion comes out, which it sounds like might be just in time for my birthday! But whenever it comes, I will be nothing but totally appreciative because I subscribe to the same theory I know you do: "Better released right than released rushed." Thanks for the news. On 04-Nov-10 6:07 AM, list2 wrote: >> This is fantastic news! Are you taking orders yet? I'll call my dealer >> today. > Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooa. Hold on there, partner. We have the >hardware worked out, but the software >is just now being developed, and the III's software will also require some >changes. I'd appreciate it if the >word that gets spread is the truth. The companion controller for the III >won't be ready for 4-6 months. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 01:59:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 137BC3BE79; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 01:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z44i+JhhK0/Z1PKcI/rK9XGPuAMGvrVOoiosnRlOocI=; b=S5RCig6ouYQoQQunJY0tlhf0a47Ou9QyXuAI2hPu+Z0DP8qCjsRK4iqnbWzx2dMk/p 7wEBWumwjoQ5d9vj2WJY4YSXKtujNunxBdRW0ZOwoqkDihqSd2t80QkW+hcCqh87XE91 wtyib4DUBFnn1uN1J3Xo3L4d8a6o5/aS9sxyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kYqIgQy8G4yMQpPeEyC0YcFb0xMeEnYynOdWbdQ3TG5qVsPSi2V7ci2ObeSDe48H/d v95KyoOIsH3Ot/CP3MB3lIJDOiBIGXZ0mCqHVcN7i48FmRRvRXOQA98ye8RPtB0cI9Ck 18Ri4p/sVoTvr4CaojkiTkeaWSg9S3mED+bNk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:58:59 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP REVIEW From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016365ee82e361da20494449e72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 01:59:02 +0000 (UTC) --0016365ee82e361da20494449e72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am having the exact same experience! SOFT STEP keeps blinking.... On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Im currently having problems programing the softstep with my laptop,i first > tried it out with my Imac and it seems to respond ok,the i downloaded the > software to my laptop and did all the upgrading,the softstep receives the > new software upgrade v 1.02 but form there it does not respond at all when i > do any editing with the software,it just blinks "soft step" the whole > time,any ideas? is there a way to reset the softstep? > > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 5:25 PM, mark francombe >> wrote: >> > Very quick report... >> >> Thank you, Mark. >> >> Gearwire has published a little longer review here: >> >> http://www.gearwire.com/kmi-soft-step-multi-touch-usb-midi-foot-controller.html >> >> From Keith McMillen's company I heard that they now have units in stock. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> > --0016365ee82e361da20494449e72 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having the exact same experience! SOFT STEP keeps blinking....

=
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.ang= ulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
Im currently havi= ng problems programing the softstep with my laptop,i first tried it out wit= h my Imac and it seems to respond ok,the i downloaded the software to my la= ptop and did all the upgrading,the softstep receives the new software upgra= de v 1.02 but form there it does not respond at all when i do any editing w= ith the software,it just blinks "soft step" the whole time,any id= eas? is there a way to reset the softstep?


On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 5:25 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:<= br> > Very quick report...

Thank you, Mark.

Gearwire has published a little longer review here:
http://www.gearwire.com/kmi-soft-step-mu= lti-touch-usb-midi-foot-controller.html

>From Keith McMillen's company I heard that they now have units in stock= .

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



--0016365ee82e361da20494449e72-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 04:01:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 104DA3BE81; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 04:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002901cb7ca6$92dfffc0$6400a8c0@vulcan> From: "d.nix" To: References: <905366E942074A1AAED0701A7C8C55C8@NORBY11> Subject: Re: Exploratory question Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:01:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 04:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Agreed, and search the completed auctions to see the actual price things sell for, not the inflated price a newby set as his asking price... Completed sales/auctions tell the story... > Just type the specs into ebay. Best way to find a price on something. > MacBooks are quite popular BTW. > > > > If no one is actually interested themselves, can any Mac people give > me an idea of what they might expect this to be worth if I had to go > to the cold outside world to peddle my way upwards? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 04:06:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B5FE3BE87; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 04:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1R+WDyy0GOR9a/5SA5xbRcW2PsBnAEWrlc8unJvnuWU=; b=LbTqXR/jfLpCkp09Q5C4REuCCKlbIsz2r7lUE11ekPISN68KnKM6MKm+1m1GIIwCTB jlcpYAFN17HkalI+OC5cuupxAz3RONv1BKMnwwfu0weQrnb9hJWdOibXbnBnU6vZJxKt HhYWNPrltv7ampJKbFYDUWS73ScK7ghyNS+xk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OIaBjCXtxR9tKw0UxHYbsaqYaDnnYC+PFkr6wN03MB8kcMQMru2iOFr6Ji4HcS8dUf n8DoFXxCf1z4AtAdKw5eZX/Nk0sMTb+AYNLmRk9AY7TtPPqhlXO9TskLA+SJt3LvRa7o SaJ48TC3nuzJKgnTs5H41x6lq8vCznzllRLDg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 22:06:54 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: SoftStep Day 1 (2 EDP's) From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d253ba37ef90494466740 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 04:06:55 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d253ba37ef90494466740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pulled it out of the box, updated firmware, set it up to send notes to 2 different EDP's. Works GREAT when the software is running on my computer. Haven't tried volume or feedback CC's. I do stereo looping and I can FINALLY overdub in L or R channel independently. Sounds really cool and I can do it from one controller. NOTE: SoftStep continuously flashes "SOFT" and then "STEP" over and over on the display no matter what. Hmmmm... In stand alone mode (i.e. software not running on my mac) it does nothing. Can't tell what preset I'm on because it just flashes SOFT... STEP... sends no notes. What is happening?? D'oh Overall I love the feel of the pedal. Let's hope things turn around with some patches!! Adam Hart --0016364d253ba37ef90494466740 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pulled it out of the box, updated firmware, set it up to send notes to 2 different EDP's.

Works GREAT when the software is running on my computer. Haven't tried volume or feedback CC's. I do stereo looping and I can FINALLY overdub in L or R channel independently. Sounds really cool and I can do it from one controller.

NOTE: SoftStep continuously flashes "SOFT" and then "STEP" over and over on the display no matter what. Hmmmm...

In stand alone mode (i.e. software not running on my mac) it does nothing. Can't tell what preset I'm on because it just flashes SOFT... STEP... sends no notes. What is happening??

D'oh

Overall I love the feel of the pedal. Let's hope things turn around with some patches!!

Adam Hart --0016364d253ba37ef90494466740-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 06:34:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41F693BE84; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 06:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vdsLiXItLz/UnlYCBKaKXPDKVjpFiF2VqHSVVTkJBFE=; b=R2ZBP676deU3Py34tTsjQfAvnw/kRFaR01Vig0kmmJKL4oPME/dzUgoH1mECQkitpw nnGm1ikEds7xnQD+hagqG+vDBEB8h82rdfV/1LwQqrillvWuzEUb4Lexsow3UUMH9guF /6S2BapjxZ1sJUXJuCgiPbHtxDUOL8Ji4Q23o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V7eqrXuTRCrLwPydPRmwaxlEommgouDIsXV6HPtHCf+SbJrqAxZzNYogOFpMEz4kPE 3aMvr6MUXzznVnJC8wbRSjsuTwnLTm9yItLOWucqMahYV7cH/6dmSr9ou2EYE51Bt6ZZ AIZVpBZ2VTP7WcW3EOZckCBcvweSSTuTDL3RI= Message-ID: <4CD3A5E1.8000803@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 01:36:17 -0500 From: Thomas Quigley Reply-To: quigstermusic@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Lexicon Jamman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 06:34:30 +0000 (UTC) I have an upgraded Lexicon Jamman w/ 32 sec and Bob Sellon software. Comes w/ powerpack and footswitches/stereo cords. Asking $350.00 obo. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 09:16:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F9C33BE84; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_318843d7-5368-440d-a086-366a406c37cf_" X-Originating-IP: [86.146.109.228] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: AdrenaLinn for PC - glitch for mac Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:16:56 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<11830F436C114E45AE2FCF348F9213F0@mpeserver>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2010 09:16:56.0447 (UTC) FILETIME=[316A28F0:01CB7CCA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:16:58 +0000 (UTC) --_318843d7-5368-440d-a086-366a406c37cf_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glitch machine doesn't just chop things up. It divides bars into measures a= nd applies 1 of about 8 processes to each section=2C (pitch shift=2C slow d= own=2C reverse=2C filter etc. It makes for a fascinating rhythmic superimpo= sition.=20 The good news for mac users is that apparently=2C you can run VST's using a= VST/AU wrapper here: http://code.google.com/p/vstau/downloads/list so you needn't miss out - highly recommended! Gareth > Date: Thu=2C 4 Nov 2010 13:49:35 +0100 > Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > On Thu=2C Nov 4=2C 2010 at 1:23 PM=2C Michael Peters wrot= e: > > still looking for a plugin that could replace the Korg Slicer ... Glitc= h can > > do some of what Slicer does but it doesn't do the "harmonic slicing" wi= th > > the harmonizing (lower octave for example) that the Slicer does. Slices= with > > a lower octave create grooves=2C I love that effect. >=20 >=20 > Since you talk about Glitch I'm guessing you are running stuff under > Windows? I don't understand if you intend to slice up the live audio > input stream or the looper output stream? But in case you think about > slicing up looper output I'd just like to mention that if using Mobius > one can have a lot of fun with scripts that combine SUSsubstitute=2C > speed=2C overdub etc according to a rhythmic pattern grid you define by > number of sub cycles placed between the command lines in the script. >=20 > If talking live audio input slicing I can only recommend any tremolo > plug-in. You may assign an expression pedal to play the musical speed > of the tremolo and that can be quite cool for poly rhythm texture > building in a looper. SoundToys have an excellent plug-in for this > purpose called Tremolator. But to me the Mainstage built-in Tremolo > plug-in is just as good. The difference is that Tremolator can be set > up not only to slice a passing stream according to note values but > also according to patterns or "riffs". SoundToys are now available for > both Windows=2C Mac and in Protools (RTAS). >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 = --_318843d7-5368-440d-a086-366a406c37cf_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glitch machine doesn't just chop things up. It divides bars into measures a= nd applies 1 of about 8 processes to each section=2C (pitch shift=2C slow d= own=2C reverse=2C filter etc. It makes for a fascinating rhythmic superimpo= sition.
The good news for mac users is that apparently=2C you can run V= ST's using a VST/AU wrapper here:
http://code.google.com/p/vstau/downloa= ds/list
 =3Bso you needn't miss out - highly recommended!

Gar= eth

>=3B Date: Thu=2C 4 Nov 2010 13:49:35 +0100
>=3B Subject:= Re: AdrenaLinn for PC
>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B On Thu=2C Nov 4=2C 2= 010 at 1:23 PM=2C Michael Peters <=3Bmp@mpeters.de>=3B wrote:
>=3B= >=3B still looking for a plugin that could replace the Korg Slicer = =3B... Glitch can
>=3B >=3B do some of what Slicer does but it doesn= 't do the "harmonic slicing" with
>=3B >=3B the harmonizing (lower o= ctave for example) that the Slicer does. Slices with
>=3B >=3B a low= er octave create grooves=2C I love that effect.
>=3B
>=3B
&g= t=3B Since you talk about Glitch I'm guessing you are running stuff under>=3B Windows? I don't understand if you intend to slice up the live aud= io
>=3B input stream or the looper output stream? But in case you thin= k about
>=3B slicing up looper output I'd just like to mention that if= using Mobius
>=3B one can have a lot of fun with scripts that combine= SUSsubstitute=2C
>=3B speed=2C overdub etc according to a rhythmic pa= ttern grid you define by
>=3B number of sub cycles placed between the = command lines in the script.
>=3B
>=3B If talking live audio inp= ut slicing I can only recommend any tremolo
>=3B plug-in. You may assi= gn an expression pedal to play the musical speed
>=3B of the tremolo a= nd that can be quite cool for poly rhythm texture
>=3B building in a l= ooper. SoundToys have an excellent plug-in for this
>=3B purpose calle= d Tremolator. But to me the Mainstage built-in Tremolo
>=3B plug-in is= just as good. The difference is that Tremolator can be set
>=3B up no= t only to slice a passing stream according to note values but
>=3B als= o according to patterns or "riffs". SoundToys are now available for
>= =3B both Windows=2C Mac and in Protools (RTAS).
>=3B
>=3B Greeti= ngs from Sweden
>=3B
>=3B Per Boysen
>=3B www.boysen.se
= >=3B www.perboysen.com
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= --_318843d7-5368-440d-a086-366a406c37cf_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 09:30:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A41673BE81; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CFy2XDFNLUfAWoPuUZv4+DFJ7E/OneLlqYXoxzcuNWc=; b=qJSeLnEBfEKjqPx8x6V63c4u1qDIkUFoeIyZqgeW911nHfFe90wDa7KxiWq4TvBruL XbxS07cD3jow4rugqkq9XJLt5WHDsaMCahLFx1pekxjYWOUpvw6POrXnmInUnv6JJAdO 0lOseVp3QyuCcBVztxiw+cZ9UO+AI9DGafkIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=cJcNMhv7AzJSYUm57Hf+y0eLDo9GzyP7FdPWJmcUQ00tmoDCEwoO+Lp/qsTp8xcNqz HCRa6SybDC2wqg3eDeV3+OlBanKqCuSGsC3uj0OP9Qo6Kn4H2QbqSUUbMQHfb3kGCqna Dj5T5Q0+YD1b4Rwrys+M5h0CRyPp0ZPgN2Rxw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <11830F436C114E45AE2FCF348F9213F0@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:30:38 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC - glitch for mac From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd486b26f52df04944aed4d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:30:39 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd486b26f52df04944aed4d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i don't think you can wrap a windows vst...i think it has to be a mac vst... On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Glitch machine doesn't just chop things up. It divides bars into measures > and applies 1 of about 8 processes to each section, (pitch shift, slow down, > reverse, filter etc. It makes for a fascinating rhythmic superimposition. > The good news for mac users is that apparently, you can run VST's using a > VST/AU wrapper here: > http://code.google.com/p/vstau/downloads/list > so you needn't miss out - highly recommended! > > Gareth > > --000e0cd486b26f52df04944aed4d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i don't think you can wrap a windows vst...i think it has to be a mac v= st...

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Gar= eth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Glitch machine doesn't just chop things up. It divides bars into measur= es and applies 1 of about 8 processes to each section, (pitch shift, slow d= own, reverse, filter etc. It makes for a fascinating rhythmic superimpositi= on.
The good news for mac users is that apparently, you can run VST's using= a VST/AU wrapper here:
http://code.google.com/p/vstau/downloads/list
=A0so you needn't miss out - highly recommended!

Gareth

<= /div>
--000e0cd486b26f52df04944aed4d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 09:31:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 959133BE8B; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HDO96UYoTCUCzDZ5fAvsF89UdS3XiAt5mbh3DvZEvtc=; b=mlkR7ma8lsTV1v2G0VslKu4dzQfnBtDpBnwzzdGHeyh8eQQCFvvYLAikucW5GOMnF0 LGdSEl2fN3SFQVDQu432Y/mI55XYO/VCuXQje1VlcC6ObObLhIw4Igb+1WIHGHaSFsmy bszxxODKBWKVvhM4y4gCocxDZ3v6HXdDIkYQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=iw9ccHWHi4td7A8DwI7262a7WLXeTfxd9sQyACMkyVD+t6Iuk9hh7iUIg8eO4PM41I s2nUTvDLzV8/sRMGwS5wn/D23DK0HmDzA0pojTC2tIRurTeRISh5jiO+ozOJ+3jAv8sn aBEsLYY0m9GURtAAV1q9VB3s9FuzW2gabx+O0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <11830F436C114E45AE2FCF348F9213F0@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:31:55 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC - glitch for mac From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750edbefb658704944af1f0 Resent-Message-ID: <2KADG.A.eH.N880MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:31:57 +0000 (UTC) --00151750edbefb658704944af1f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 a good mac alternative is LiveCut http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/livecut/ On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i don't think you can wrap a windows vst...i think it has to be a mac > vst... > > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > >> Glitch machine doesn't just chop things up. It divides bars into measures >> and applies 1 of about 8 processes to each section, (pitch shift, slow down, >> reverse, filter etc. It makes for a fascinating rhythmic superimposition. >> The good news for mac users is that apparently, you can run VST's using a >> VST/AU wrapper here: >> http://code.google.com/p/vstau/downloads/list >> so you needn't miss out - highly recommended! >> >> Gareth >> >> --00151750edbefb658704944af1f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable a good mac alternative is LiveCut

http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/livecut/

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharr= is40@googlemail.com> wrote:
i don't think= you can wrap a windows vst...i think it has to be a mac vst...


On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at= 9:16 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> = wrote:
Glitch machine doesn't just chop things up. It divides bars into measur= es and applies 1 of about 8 processes to each section, (pitch shift, slow d= own, reverse, filter etc. It makes for a fascinating rhythmic superimpositi= on.
The good news for mac users is that apparently, you can run VST's using= a VST/AU wrapper here:
http://code.google.com/p/vstau/downloads/list
=A0so you needn't miss out - highly recommended!

Gareth

<= /div>

--00151750edbefb658704944af1f0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 09:37:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBDD43BE8C; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VOFWVhF8vOx+kAon3sTbCIAo3MFIwYQWD/nVDV4PUgY=; b=U6a75uKvWk+HXCftYvDgn0kLThOfnvZl3mUjZYOAUxq1R86Axz3v3OxdjmgcjjQ17B U7fAoCUtUHyy+71Pcriw2tIDRXNqBHnkpZJ5nN7IABYD33e6h5/K2uQ2c7HX01RlVS2f JnkGWmqZKyaisq/JqgmnM7yQ+44K20CloM6ek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=m75melh3dEnk4WUrvXNho/L1sowmiis2BNWM7Mr+5VkZAjIepvZB1D4vApKknG/wZc N/9JK6T+sfwXQad5yOYOKQEV018ViasZFCKbWTa/KSpHiY7IgI6HLD7cbKRWt7KaYZDt TWSoCQ+7mEWLhX0PGKPQYDzBHdmNparMDk8NI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E2BEF@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271A@barq.sailpoint.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E2BEF@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:37:54 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius scripters...help please.... :O) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48f546312d404944b0748 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:37:54 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48f546312d404944b0748 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks jeff the thing is, it doesn't matter what i have the quantize parameter set to, these functions always happen instantly. i usually have the quantize parameter set to subcycle and the value is either 4, 8 or 16. recording on synced tracks happens at the subcycle boundary, as it should, but reverse and rate shifts always happen instantly. i'd like these to always happen at the loop boundary, so my tracks stay aligned, so i'll make some scripts for them, as suggested many thanks! sim > > The scripts Per posted will work, but can also just set the Quantize > > preset parameter to Cycle, Subcycle, or Loop. If you can live > > with having a single quantization value for all functions then > > this is all you need. > > --000e0cd48f546312d404944b0748 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks jeff

the thing is, it doesn't matter what i have the quan= tize parameter set to, these functions always happen instantly. i usually h= ave the quantize parameter set to subcycle and the value is either 4, 8 or = 16. recording on synced tracks happens at the subcycle boundary, as it shou= ld, but reverse and rate shifts always happen instantly. i'd like these= to always happen at the loop boundary, so my tracks stay aligned, so i'= ;ll make some scripts for them, as suggested

many thanks!

sim


=A0

The scripts Per posted will work, but can also just set the Quantize

preset parameter to Cycle, Subcycle, or Loop.=A0 If you can live

with having a single quantization value for all functions then

this is all you need.


--000e0cd48f546312d404944b0748-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 09:45:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 353583BE99; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <11830F436C114E45AE2FCF348F9213F0@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 18:45:50 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Dustbunnies Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC - glitch for mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:45:59 +0000 (UTC) At 9:31 AM +0000 11/5/10, Simeon Harris wrote: >a good mac alternative is LiveCut > >http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/livecut/ Or, err, well... Reaktor (okay, somebody had to say it.) You don't even have to program your own ensembles. There are about a half-a-bazillion different glitch-type manglers that you can download for free from the User Library. Also, if you don't want to shell out so much cash, you could add Tim Exile's The Finger and NI's Deep Reconstructions (both for the freeware Kore Player) to that list as well. And I think Sugar Bytes' Artillery does interactive glitchy stuff similar to The Finger. --m. -- _____ "...but Whitey had not, and was not, coming up with it." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 10:18:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CC5F3BE85; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6123fd5c-e66e-4a87-8ec7-7a007be2d673_" X-Originating-IP: [86.146.109.228] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: AdrenaLinn for PC - glitch for mac Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:18:39 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<11830F436C114E45AE2FCF348F9213F0@mpeserver>,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2010 10:18:39.0278 (UTC) FILETIME=[D07954E0:01CB7CD2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:18:42 +0000 (UTC) --_6123fd5c-e66e-4a87-8ec7-7a007be2d673_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah=2C you're right Simeon - my apologies.. Peace Gareth Date: Fri=2C 5 Nov 2010 09:30:38 +0000 Subject: Re: AdrenaLinn for PC - glitch for mac From: simeonharris40@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com i don't think you can wrap a windows vst...i think it has to be a mac vst..= . On Fri=2C Nov 5=2C 2010 at 9:16 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: Glitch machine doesn't just chop things up. It divides bars into measures a= nd applies 1 of about 8 processes to each section=2C (pitch shift=2C slow d= own=2C reverse=2C filter etc. It makes for a fascinating rhythmic superimpo= sition.=20 The good news for mac users is that apparently=2C you can run VST's using a= VST/AU wrapper here: http://code.google.com/p/vstau/downloads/list so you needn't miss out - highly recommended! Gareth = --_6123fd5c-e66e-4a87-8ec7-7a007be2d673_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah=2C you're right Simeon - my apologies..

Peace

Gareth
Date: Fri=2C 5 Nov 2010 09:30:38 +0000
Subject= : Re: AdrenaLinn for PC - glitch for mac
From: simeonharris40@googlemail= .com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

i don't think you ca= n wrap a windows vst...i think it has to be a mac vst...

On Fri=2C Nov 5=2C 2010 at 9:16 AM=2C Gareth Whittock <= span dir=3D"ltr"><=3Bbuddhama= chine@live.co.uk>=3B wrote:
Glitch machine doesn't just chop things up. It divides bars into measures a= nd applies 1 of about 8 processes to each section=2C (pitch shift=2C slow d= own=2C reverse=2C filter etc. It makes for a fascinating rhythmic superimpo= sition.
The good news for mac users is that apparently=2C you can run VST's using a= VST/AU wrapper here:
http://code.google.com/p/vstau/downloads/list=
 =3Bso you needn't miss out - highly recommended!

Gareth

=
= --_6123fd5c-e66e-4a87-8ec7-7a007be2d673_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 11:11:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F38F3BE84; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 11:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7qAOrlpQ57r9B3H67hF597Qp8LtmVB7yrOu1GUKvIxo=; b=Gs5E/xl9oroBMd4bGuIVFVzATP2r2AGH4k5oLkBiefJ91VLjSKwSCcvGlGMNsFAIuq hzBF6MkDSkJGUGyjqVZMZM/gQUBkkqPzxVM4tnuT8edCvV9pmEt5Hp1uCS3oaSRaAGyQ rLj3qQ1jDGZ2XWIK2PzbdO+mWM/s9gGgab28A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=cYbxNUOrySqGvdZ1ut9h0qJ7Z+DTWLB8hEB7vT5iiTkMLWbwKwOmkX4LC6c05AL/g9 cpCB8FAkIjQg0n/xdkP6XpecIzzqVFIfkJS5eK74sCTNlNie0VzEh6DjTFsFQ39Tdla+ aBJ/ZsWcGW5GZQZmyrikUa2zwytiHnf5jBpno= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E271A@barq.sailpoint.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B3E2BEF@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 11:11:06 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius scripters...help please.... :O) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd51664af71af04944c54d1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 11:11:08 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd51664af71af04944c54d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok, this is weird. i was doing some testing and the scripts didn't work with mobius hosted in bidule - i was getting some very strange behaviour so i ran mobius as a standalone and the normal quantisation behaviour worked fine. reverse and rate changes happen when they're supposed to, depending on the quantisation value. the scripts also worked as well. so i went back to running mobius hosted in bidule and the quantisation value is ignored again! do i have to set something up in "plugin parameters"? to resolve this? sim On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > thanks jeff > > the thing is, it doesn't matter what i have the quantize parameter set to, > these functions always happen instantly. i usually have the quantize > parameter set to subcycle and the value is either 4, 8 or 16. recording on > synced tracks happens at the subcycle boundary, as it should, but reverse > and rate shifts always happen instantly. i'd like these to always happen at > the loop boundary, so my tracks stay aligned, so i'll make some scripts for > them, as suggested > > many thanks! > > sim > > > > >> >> The scripts Per posted will work, but can also just set the Quantize >> >> preset parameter to Cycle, Subcycle, or Loop. If you can live >> >> with having a single quantization value for all functions then >> >> this is all you need. >> >> --000e0cd51664af71af04944c54d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok, this is weird. i was doing some testing and the scripts didn't work= with mobius hosted in bidule - i was getting some very strange behaviour
so i ran mobius as a standalone and the normal quantisation behaviour= worked fine. reverse and rate changes happen when they're supposed to,= depending on the quantisation value. the scripts also worked as well.

so i went back to running mobius hosted in bidule and the quantisation = value is ignored again!

do i have to set something up in "plugi= n parameters"? to resolve this?

sim

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com= > wrote:
thanks jeff

the thing is, it doesn't matter what i have the quan= tize parameter set to, these functions always happen instantly. i usually h= ave the quantize parameter set to subcycle and the value is either 4, 8 or = 16. recording on synced tracks happens at the subcycle boundary, as it shou= ld, but reverse and rate shifts always happen instantly. i'd like these= to always happen at the loop boundary, so my tracks stay aligned, so i'= ;ll make some scripts for them, as suggested

many thanks!

sim



=A0

The scripts Per posted will work, but can also just set the Quantize

preset parameter to Cycle, Subcycle, or Loop.=A0 If you can live

with having a single quantization value for all functions then

this is all you need.



--000e0cd51664af71af04944c54d1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 16:00:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B6AE3BE86; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=i5w4j3+7x45dA6Z+dOuaMC80SbdyWNIdpxsmA4Uvml4=; b=uV6uKHaos/WiZ+7SjLST/WyPu9NRMXBo50PfwguI5jbM7Yb3d1UTIO8wD3dONQLIMH 5s/NE1nxSkJXPEgB3yCqtfSYVc1mS8aaJqTGf1RB0dW1VSRGvCL8+tX53rKbBW82vGuY ecpVg8gClGnCqss/M0wwFklDseH8gk+EnfCx0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j/wM8gSO3suOR/MSYbKcB3UztTiB7IWuoB0+oG6Rf57GrxXD3qIrCww41TTwE7rjQr JeZGkCPXysE+W5is7Qe3zRodXKCwN3LpDd65UR/2pDId6IrAkh5CE4gZlejNKdIN+2lu uyBxIgHiCw3F+1Q4ZK538lopYe7swQEsTam9Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7BE1C7CF3DBC4B9398F5C3318D061D1A@Christojota> References: <02aa01cb78b4$a09d4960$6400a8c0@vulcan> <4CCF6A37.1060805@boomerangmusic.com> <89A00B10-41A6-4558-9CBA-42DDAA60F122@grubmah.com> <7BE1C7CF3DBC4B9398F5C3318D061D1A@Christojota> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:00:50 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:00:51 +0000 (UTC) The DD-20 is still one of the most affordable and under-rated loopers around...as the review from 2005 points out, two of them are amazing together. That is all. http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Christo Jota wrote: > > Now=A0I found the description for getting up to 46 seconds. For those who > didn=B4t know about it - like me: > "Pan alternates the delayed signal between the right and left outputs wit= h > each repetition of delay. This is commonly called a "ping pong" delay. If > you set the delay time at 1000ms, the first delay will appear hard right = at > 1000ms, the second hard left at 2000ms, the third hard right at 3000ms, t= he > fourth hard left at 4000ms, etc. You can get up to 46 seconds of delay fr= om > the DD-20 by using this mode and muting one of the two audio outputs. A j= ack > must be inserted to both outputs or the stereo effect (and the potential > 46-second delay) won't be heard. The direct sound retains its stereo imag= e, > but the effected sound reduces the stereo input to mono, sending it hard = to > the left, then hard to the right." > I=B4m excited how it works... > Christo > > > From: Jeff Duke > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:32 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) > Read all about it! > http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20_review1.html > > j > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Christo Jota wrot= e: >> >> Jeff is right. It=B4s really good this way. >> Didn=B4t know the 46 sec trick that he mentioned. >> Have to check that... But can=B4t find it in the archive. >> Does anyone no more about it? >> Christo >> From: Jeff Duke >> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:42 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3) >> Yes that's right. I actually use my toe to operate the feedback knob :) >> Light socks or barefoot looper here. >> >> It's "trails" feature is always on so when you press the effect off it >> keeps playing for as long as you have set the feedback knob. This is tru= e >> even if you switch to the next preset. >> >> j >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >>> >>> So, just treat the DD-20 as a really long delay line? Can one >>> tap-play-tap-overdub? I take it that when off, the delay will keep play= ing >>> so you can just set feedback to 100% and turn it off to get a hold effe= ct? >>> Do you have to reach down and grab the feedback knob to adjust feedback= ? >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Christo Jota wrote: >>> >>> > Creating seamless drones with the DD 20 should be rather done with th= e >>> > delay modes (put on long feedback) . You can switch >>> > then from one mode to another to work with two separate modes. >>> > Attention: You can NOT switch back to the first used mode >>> > cause the sounds on the first mode will be deleted. That=B4s not so g= ood >>> > with the DD 20. >>> > The delay modes though are very good, I find. Work a lot with it on >>> > ambient soundscapes. Much better doing these with the >>> > DD 20 than the RC 50. >>> > Nice Day! >>> > Christo >>> > www.christojota.de >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 5 16:28:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93D143BE85; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 961 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:28:12 UTC Message-ID: <4CD42CF5.4090803@virgin.net> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:12:37 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Softstep in UK Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-65B97B08=======" X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: <_cPBP.A.0AH.cCD1MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:28:12 +0000 (UTC) --=======AVGMAIL-65B97B08======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hooray! My Softstep arrived today here in t'UK. Now to get it to work, with v1.02 etc. Be warned if you're thinking of parting with your sterling though; apart from $90 shipping costs I got stung another twenty quid VAT & UPS 'brokerage' fee on delivery. Around $120 altogether. Ouch! It'd better work after all that....! Dave Draper --=======AVGMAIL-65B97B08======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-4B5767D8=======" --=======AVGMAIL-4B5767D8======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: "Certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 02:38:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CD553BE81; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 02:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD4BFBD.80503@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 22:38:53 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 02:38:57 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, November 6 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. You will also hear music from Chuck Van Zyl who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 5, 8 pm at the Nazareth Center for the Arts. I will also play music by xeroid entity and the Tangent Project who will play at One Thousand Pulses on Saturday, November 6. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 08:11:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAAF63BE8B; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 08:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD50DC6.7010406@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:11:50 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #709 for November 4, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-3-hP.A.amG.J3Q1MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 08:11:53 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/101104.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #709 November 4, 2010. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Dan Pound. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Drift" on Pound Sounds Records. I also played music by Chuck Van Zyl, xeroid entity, and the Tangent Project who will be playing at various concerts in the area. Visit the events page for details. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) xeroid entity Early Autumn 1 Clouds of Dust (electro-music) The Tangent Project 20:30 Live - The Gatherings 05.17.08 The Ministry of Function Four Live on Galactic Travels July Inside Things 12, 2001 (Synkronos) Richard Pinhas Legend Metal/Crystal (Cuneiform) Dan Pound Drift Drift (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound World Under Drift (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Canyon Corridor Drift (Pound Sounds) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Dan Pound Chilled Through Drift (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Moon on the Water Drift (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Liquid Cavern Drift (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Cloud Shift Drift (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Wings of Time Drift (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Down Wind Current Drift (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Adrift Drift (Pound Sounds) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Dan Pound. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Night Watch" on Pound Sounds Records. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 10:28:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 770253BE87; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 10:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=J8NU6I4j1TAGYQZjlp0M1M1JhgwvHWdDnShMRGFO3uc=; b=AEFZtwLvPnS5plCAMg7iNgwOmmC6hD3ePiSH6e7LNBBTLpi4G1+4HK0JkeVBl3ydgz hhSNvZCir/pK6zB4VN4WP95kG8vqayj4/Pbm2KpBNRy+RYxMJHjuUUZK0OEhJzk6RfMs knD523X8yi0TCnyTbjnWoE/1aJ/vv4nfoMSgo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PWI1VGU2jcreJNDK44baJTMpKxBHS9W0BwbxAZzBCGiZSKl4wCKvRnKxq8N6BV3VKB glZWgOEPSXaO631Uk720fja0pKMnFD5sOUSED7w7NFS9wimqCwja9IJ56VTaGWbSSMVQ Obqv6/UgA89VwYFX+qdMuvlhrVVBkPQN/6NPg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 11:28:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6deea8ca05d2104945fd932 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 10:28:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6deea8ca05d2104945fd932 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 same as a roland ready no? On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > http://admin.fender.com/rockband3/exclusive/ > > Looks interesting. > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > --0016e6deea8ca05d2104945fd932 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable same as a roland ready no?

On Fri, Nov 5,= 2010 at 6:42 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
= http://admin.fender.com/rockband3/exclusive/

Looks interesting.

Kevin

--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos


--0016e6deea8ca05d2104945fd932-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 10:34:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBA7C3BE87; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 10:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_TynvGNH0ra3hXxkM7/Jhhw)" X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1011060041 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-11-06_04:2010-11-05,2010-11-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Message-id: <12225962CC9943A782CE3D855702EBEF@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 03:34:04 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 10:34:33 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_TynvGNH0ra3hXxkM7/Jhhw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT no. ----- Original Message ----- From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:28 AM Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender same as a roland ready no? On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: http://admin.fender.com/rockband3/exclusive/ Looks interesting. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos --Boundary_(ID_TynvGNH0ra3hXxkM7/Jhhw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
no.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender

same as a roland ready no?

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
http://admin.fender.com/rockband3/exclusive/

Looks interesting.

Kevin

--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

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--Boundary_(ID_TynvGNH0ra3hXxkM7/Jhhw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 14:27:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC8B13BE85; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 14:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wUxp2S0O8p76zZTkMY1wK1WwYGgvFioj97ikn2cJC7Q=; b=mFit1wCbIwF5ofpDo88pVlYWobCttAKhad/cgmt0+wYFWOiNmyiAUtRVNkL7nTO6x/ veOk+4y+Hd4juuvzeKYwxRPA614cGCN07qdF1dj5IlFY9OeZfgIEEMXC1LQ4e6oTsbWT yOfp3RRpiV8hFUPKwKpogAuGqYVq0ImsyINX4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UGUEE2xmKHUt35TLMbN+HwrtS5+u0iQl4ynVnNd8wSeHRFRDy6b6DywVxhxKXd4uVX JZ0gCf5ZAfcBXnko9w+nVtIlQRs68o41OgMTfphGz9v4/6RsUMBeJlxdg8nQsZmC6EOB st/7rDlpJkP9VgZBUfpc6AAD5Ream6tFAObuA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:27:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: D-tar solstice effects loop From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6deea8c9af7570494632f01 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 14:27:09 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6deea8c9af7570494632f01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi gang, is ther a way to use the D-tar solstice s effects loop with a stereo looper? in the back it has one send and one return but it also has chanel insertion jacks how would you conect them then? here is the manual http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml thanx a lot! Luis --0016e6deea8c9af7570494632f01 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi gang,
is ther a way to use the D-tar solstice s effects loop with a stereo looper? in the back it has one send and one return but it also has chanel insertion jacks
how would you conect them then?
here is the manual
http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml
thanx a lot!
Luis
--0016e6deea8c9af7570494632f01-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 14:36:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92FA03BE89; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YkTediuPKFfFBkJSxRDep3iyJgI3I6FZaaBYfkHfR7c=; b=mw2twSV8LNT81FqzLaQ/EHtCTqXFGDASR9h7PzJzowSblGoitFRk5B7ypMI6pf4JFk wtJHOxhr10+kLSFfQRIKzX8uftTHKpd/eEtsSkahoYUsNml4Uv9gemZvoI29UnTtrVEk wjFRjhM+3OKszMT02NDcmJctCpqHZ6MaOkUXw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=U6ZLL/Oz6Uk/sxlGE50DUdSNvdJAW2TE9vJr2EqeAgEz0KqUIcPEl80EyeSb6Zxrwf 1lj3ahSJL4CzKIQ9TePGIcCy75vOzotf/Wv4aQAIutgMjqeJlPsE3PWn2miLGr0Rg0su Zzs9mqEw+1YxIr9aEPpaVoZjRs/pvK6yNwOUk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:36:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Doesn't it work for you to run the D-TAR's effect send (actually: "Channel effects loop send") to the looper's Audi Input and the looper's Stereo Audio Output to the D-TAR's Stereo Input Jack? Judging by the manual that seems to be the way to go. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > is ther a way to use the D-tar solstice s effects loop with a stereo looper? > in the back it has one send and one return but it also has chanel insertion > jacks > how would you conect them then? > here is the manual > http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml > thanx a lot! > Luis > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 15:23:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF1543BE86; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD572DC.9070906@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:23:08 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for November 6, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:23:11 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2010/101106.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #185 November 6, 2010. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com I played the music of The Tangent Project and xeroid entity who will play at One Thousand Pulses tonight at 8 pm. See http://onethousandpulses.com for details. I also played music by Chuck van Zyl who will appear at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 5, 8:00 pm at the Nazareth Center for the arts. See http://soundscapes.us for details. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== van Zyl, Gulch, Rath Shifting Sands The Sound Museum (Groove) The Tangent Project Current Drift Return (none) VA [Linus Project] Glas Pulse Sequences No. 11 VA [Martin Green] uncredited Sequences No. 11 xeroid entity Shards of Light * Shards of Light (electro-music media) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Mark Pinkus Time To Forgive My Love To You (none) Paul Avgerinos Gently My Love Law of Attraction (Round Sky) Evan Wish What Will a Man's Forget-me-not, blue (none) Legacy Be? David Braid with Spirit Dance Spirit Dance (Opening Day) the Canadian Brass Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Agents of Mercy Journey Dramarama (Foxtrot) Agents of Mercy Gratitude Dramarama (Foxtrot) Alan Morse Cold Fusion Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 18:29:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67BA83BE81; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 18:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ejkzxjmBt8yEiIdhIIB7ceEae3tjaTNsB/N5y78M6r0=; b=t2bEuQ4ZgWTS+WygDyK8Fo2RIZHpfN6l5OfrUCd6KhErBe2uty2mIgozWvC7Lv23Gg C8bys6LKMEM4veGsaxn2d9S2QZ8PAABrIxzQ0oPv2FKRiXS39yLthtZ+S6itQHOteD8j zWisSlCbhv10JgKx1rLxEyG8OqZFwYD7p9wAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=U8pNnR4p1gmL+pGPrwN2V4OqcbgVaXO3gRTCbkUdeSNkfWHOggeXWTjAnj9sni7QCL ou/LDcfzwx2OFZ9lNgALeEuy+sSUpJYGJAgoFzBoKzZa/Ny3LtxMku8EXbnxHFn6ma6R aEP6dv4RqMijXQmwLTkHgmn/pFBbL7KAD7OEY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 19:29:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646cff87aeb0d04946693f9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 18:29:50 +0000 (UTC) --00163646cff87aeb0d04946693f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 but to be in true stereo it has to have 2 sends,no? On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Doesn't it work for you to run the D-TAR's effect send (actually: > "Channel effects loop send") to the looper's Audi Input and the > looper's Stereo Audio Output to the D-TAR's Stereo Input Jack? Judging > by the manual that seems to be the way to go. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > Hi gang, > > is ther a way to use the D-tar solstice s effects loop with a stereo > looper? > > in the back it has one send and one return but it also has chanel > insertion > > jacks > > how would you conect them then? > > here is the manual > > http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml > > thanx a lot! > > Luis > > > > --00163646cff87aeb0d04946693f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 but to be in true stereo it has to have 2 sends,no?

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Doesn't it work for you to run the D-TAR's effect send (actually:
"Channel effects loop send") to the looper's Audi Input and the
looper's Stereo Audio Output to the D-TAR's Stereo Input Jack? Judging
by the manual that seems to be the way to go.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi gang,
> is ther a way to use the D-tar solstice s effects loop with a stereo looper?
> in the back it has one send and one return but it also has chanel insertion
> jacks
> how would you conect them then?
> here is the manual
> http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml
> thanx a lot!
> Luis
>


--00163646cff87aeb0d04946693f9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 18:35:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21B4A3BE89; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 18:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZmnKxeOmmFwv+DyUirf0NE4JFRTL4UyZOVzRfFr2IlU=; b=I7hhvy1IwowGYv9F5zhnhcpxpMPcmsG97TCf13MomJ0ghDq9bkSus5BlskUsHaaFwN e+lilfLriwF4MlDV5v0M9GeLZ/4V6RZ/S0ed7aqDfsH1utHOY7nlrlnbHqxw6IjUrYex zq3jsms4bgDL16JU2BnL4NhXgXJrJEEUN487o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lfZhiW0iuSlQFyuIYVxt+8ZhVKOye3qzW+QRy9Zc97ASzdFdAhxRnzn9lFL6oPjKNR uNliRtU07vz1wi2fwRA/CKIUoASWw5+wY07xmqDP/MctWv21QSKv9bI3vPaiAhK4yz2w XQ0kDE3w74DXLHIQR8qBklRaB+zZfOwInVtBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 19:35:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 18:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Well, if you run stereo as two panned mono channels on the D-TAR, then you need to use two different sends - one on each source mono channel - to to target a panned dual mono input of the looper's. Or if the D-TAR effect loop send works in stereo you would need only one send. Per On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > but to be in true stereo it has to have 2 sends,no? > > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Doesn't it work for you to run the D-TAR's effect send (actually: >> "Channel effects loop send") to the looper's Audi Input and the >> looper's Stereo Audio Output to the D-TAR's Stereo Input Jack? Judging >> by the manual that seems to be the way to go. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >> > Hi gang, >> > is ther a way to use the D-tar solstice s effects loop with a stereo >> > looper? >> > in the back it has one send and one return but it also has chanel >> > insertion >> > jacks >> > how would you conect them then? >> > here is the manual >> > http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml >> > thanx a lot! >> > Luis >> > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 19:50:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4151D3BE78; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 19:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 252336.87439.bm@omp1005.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=LOrhFicevXL/NksGN68tme8cS2+ff+1mc/CTqgjWfl2pDCeNxQyaxcEnE9tsBOD13I6qx16AA3UgCmbZKaiPO4LVpusTnsLufHoHi9FuD7TItyjD1d8iZ9YfrZS5YbRQ60rpmwuitbZl/NlDhYRuI4mFbsRjWKAehVM6x1XMHME= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1289073019; bh=9+gO6ErGZwgJql6pddKcR0DVqXUydHmlyNMFTH1iixM=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=P9Df0IY6ryp0xFUzA4HS9akeysu6te1roCpHCQ+32FmwJ+cNTSb4Dm+R0lsf1OjffMWg4jv8p6HHQ1zcOOI2Lxc1ih18OU4y2VbK3Zl9D/FH9VXoUdvSa60UypQWv80QliEVahSsRszzAAytf/hWUiQcRzRKh5jKVNiGrqNuDEM= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: OIWA7RwVM1ktRedf3Xg3suoFMxPEvx1wSOxVcmlN4vKL3bh OO8sEqAPJHpjoRENm5zmXN4p.bezV3egVkGVfOjwYxiqXJGtFGlMP8SaUnXZ 5HDmuy6ixBpBdMOj4hoDAbV9oKCyTzmebftClIyl_Sy4M8bK85Yo18uaCO00 HBSn5aqIXLvf7SVdXnXnWCf0mB8kVDJ2qpZOX5BMqWaMYW6fLn66ebPH9_3X SWGyrtcM_RCHmjI9nWWIx7xb0sr5C1Ky3WHVClEr47cxFKDxWq3VM5rDVH7Q w6vhHgvfMS9P3zDrVoClzW5YMFWpQ9.xKBQtV X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: References: Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:50:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 19:50:20 +0000 (UTC) yes it's interesting. See also this: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/10/rock-band-3-fender-mustang-pro-midi/#more-14362 I don't know if the link appeared on this list or on another one I subscribed to. There was also a "rockband" guitar mentioned on this list a while ago. I don't remember the exact name but I think someone on the list was expecting to try one a while agao? any verdict? Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 6:42 PM Subject: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender http://admin.fender.com/rockband3/exclusive/ Looks interesting. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 20:13:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EB413BE85; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <685ED62A-2010-490C-9712-D78E6B0EC86C@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: D-tar solstice effects loop Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:13:49 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:13:56 +0000 (UTC) The Solstice is not a stereo device, I made that clear in a number of posts, The TRS 1/4 input on channel one is to split an incoming dual source pickup to the two channels for independent eq. If you took a send from the effects loop, ran it in to your "stereo" looper and then in to channel one's trs input you would not get stereo but you might get a nasty feedback loop. Besides what is "stereo" really doing for the imaging on your "stereo" looper? Not much of anything unless you have panning capability for the loops on your "stereo" looper. Last I checked the only hardware looper that has pan capability currently available is the LP-1. If you need stereo the solstice does have two outputs one balanced xlr and one 1/4 and they are in phase with one another so you could get a simple xlr to 1/4 cable and run your looper after the Solstice. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 20:18:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B6473BE87; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fPoqPuJTtmj4h0Lws3Or+/e7I73Bi5U96jtsETBReqs=; b=IJ2WS4TCLXOZNBBVWm6B12UYAr2fz0lWLq0m5C1tetrldVih+D213Fb+Kdl0nnoqzv f52xUzwPSjdp97pIHgbeFvW7buX7Svd6b9PWSCzszz4iADprO2fO4V7ZA+3FwdJxd1tA nVTaVrrhmmfe1ql0S8KiuyE4HOmv4lKHDqqUQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oILGnefJTFpINZ46Gg2dhr3Lov/4GNQnm0h6f3G80/9LFB9jcNymEugVV4tCwQ9eNz 4bE88Dfx0v6YmZvJixJRCqvNJGIy5UbIN9+2lNv+vMmZuv+/ZVD789rpVlIHACzzOq+4 yPOjZ0OkroU9FBucQ/D/fl4618hQx1RBJu2s4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 21:18:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5c08891d739049468165a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:18:04 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5c08891d739049468165a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes,thats the problem i think,it actually suprise me that you cannot ouput a single channel in stereo,if u plug on channel 1 or 2 it only comes out of one speaker ;-(( same with the micro inputs; somehow i thought it would also serve as a mini mixer with all inputs summed up to go out in stereo... Luis On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Well, if you run stereo as two panned mono channels on the D-TAR, then > you need to use two different sends - one on each source mono channel > - to to target a panned dual mono input of the looper's. Or if the > D-TAR effect loop send works in stereo you would need only one send. > > Per > > > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > but to be in true stereo it has to have 2 sends,no? > > > > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> > >> Doesn't it work for you to run the D-TAR's effect send (actually: > >> "Channel effects loop send") to the looper's Audi Input and the > >> looper's Stereo Audio Output to the D-TAR's Stereo Input Jack? Judging > >> by the manual that seems to be the way to go. > >> > >> Greetings from Sweden > >> > >> Per Boysen > >> www.boysen.se > >> www.perboysen.com > >> www.looproom.com internet music hub > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Louie Angulo > >> wrote: > >> > Hi gang, > >> > is ther a way to use the D-tar solstice s effects loop with a stereo > >> > looper? > >> > in the back it has one send and one return but it also has chanel > >> > insertion > >> > jacks > >> > how would you conect them then? > >> > here is the manual > >> > http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml > >> > thanx a lot! > >> > Luis > >> > > >> > > > > > > --001636c5c08891d739049468165a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes,thats the problem i think,it actually suprise me that you cannot ouput = a single channel in stereo,if u plug on channel 1 or 2 it only comes out of= one speaker ;-((
same with the micro inputs; somehow i thought it would= also serve as a mini mixer with all inputs summed up to go out in stereo..= .
Luis

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Per = Boysen <perboys= en@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, if you run stereo as two panned mono channels on the D-TAR, then
you need to use two different sends - one on each source mono channel
- to to target a panned dual mono input of the looper's. Or if the
D-TAR effect loop send works in stereo you would need only one send.

Per


On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
> but to be in true stereo it has to have 2 sends,no?
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't it work for you to run the D-TAR's effect send (ac= tually:
>> "Channel effects loop send") to the looper's Audi In= put and the
>> looper's Stereo Audio Output to the D-TAR's Stereo Input J= ack? Judging
>> by the manual that seems to be the way to go.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboys= en.com
>> www.looproom= .com internet music hub
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Louie Angulo
>> <louie.angulo@go= oglemail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi gang,
>> > is ther a way to use the D-tar solstice s effects loop with a= stereo
>> > looper?
>> > in the back it has one send and one return but it also has ch= anel
>> > insertion
>> > jacks
>> > how would you conect them then?
>> > here is the manual
>> > http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml
>> > thanx a lot!
>> > Luis
>> >
>>
>
>


--001636c5c08891d739049468165a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 20:27:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1B6C3BE89; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iWzuqyXGXq7EApgXrMqjTe4B31mI025LRKGAqtnmx6s=; b=gM8g4zIGwyhpsaqP0QK8/PLnJmfiObQe9BUi+nHhepX9C31oP/Wj6QJrsLAqPqEVqU iG1pceYWSyw1SIsETQIO0y8O6nHD4Nwit9R7L/BJqeBt2YCCLak+glw+JHkp2hMbwqtL hcPz6d/6INxASKhKFVwXCmnqCdyKXejB8vpVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XtfY/zTHj2tCRzCx552ARZVE1MkC9mr1YHuafaxdwws2U3xi37b8pZrSteVxyegSD1 dfN3wziYzpzYT8pDdrMNst2YKZ22+UIxBmsC2Knx286LJ2r6Z1OnLBx+xocw+B0YaVA9 P5cn0TXpYqF4ST568ujphzxXh404rpn2ux10Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <685ED62A-2010-490C-9712-D78E6B0EC86C@baymoon.com> References: <685ED62A-2010-490C-9712-D78E6B0EC86C@baymoon.com> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 21:27:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a91aee5f6104946836fc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:27:06 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a91aee5f6104946836fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well yes Bill,the new digitech jamman stereo does a beautiful job,if u go out of the M9 straight into the Digitech and loop ping pong stereo delays! they are automatically hard panned and i want to keep that stereo image,but i see what you mean,i was connecting the 2 XLR outs but ill follow your advice and connect them to the two outputs,the one balanced xlr and 1/4 and go straight into the digitech. thanx man Luis On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:13 PM, William Walker wrote: > The Solstice is not a stereo device, I made that clear in a number of > posts, The TRS 1/4 input on channel one is to split an incoming dual source > pickup to the two channels for independent eq. If you took a send from the > effects loop, ran it in to your "stereo" looper and then in to channel > one's trs input you would not get stereo but you might get a nasty feedback > loop. Besides what is "stereo" really doing for the imaging on your "stereo" > looper? Not much of anything unless you have panning capability for the > loops on your "stereo" looper. Last I checked the only hardware looper that > has pan capability currently available is the LP-1. If you need stereo the > solstice does have two outputs one balanced xlr and one 1/4 and they are in > phase with one another so you could get a simple xlr to 1/4 cable and run > your looper after the Solstice. > Bill > > --001636c5a91aee5f6104946836fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well yes Bill,the new digitech jamman stereo does a beautiful job,if u go o= ut of the M9 straight into the Digitech and loop ping pong stereo delays!they are automatically hard panned and i want to keep that stereo image,b= ut i see what you mean,i was connecting the 2 XLR outs but ill follow your = advice and connect them to the two outputs,the one balanced xlr and 1/4 an= d=A0 go straight into the digitech.
thanx man
Luis=A0

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010= at 9:13 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
The Solstice is not a stereo device, I made that clear in a number of posts= , The =A0TRS 1/4 input on channel one is to split an incoming dual source p= ickup to the two channels =A0for independent eq. =A0If you took a send from= the effects loop, =A0ran it in to your "stereo" looper and then = in to channel one's trs input you would not get stereo but you might ge= t a nasty feedback loop. Besides what is "stereo" really doing fo= r the imaging on your "stereo" looper? =A0Not much of anything un= less you have panning capability for the loops on your "stereo" l= ooper. Last I checked the only hardware looper that has pan capability curr= ently available is the LP-1. If you need stereo the solstice does have two = outputs one balanced xlr and one 1/4 =A0and they are in phase with one anot= her so you could get a simple xlr to 1/4 cable and run your looper after th= e Solstice.
Bill


--001636c5a91aee5f6104946836fc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 20:39:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 118D43BE86; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD5BCEE.6030709@biink.com> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 16:39:10 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Louie Angulo Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:39:11 +0000 (UTC) On 11/6/2010 6:28 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > same as a roland ready no? cheaper, I'd think. -- * David Beardsley * http://biink.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 21:05:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03A143BE89; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 21:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zj0UjlztP7VW+yN91UzXj8HfyE57q6eht3XL18saRu4=; b=o160tqCwSgJyTL537lghw507vcbqZvaybE+dgBy3DQ9Lf2Ra04zEt7e5m3TIcm+gSh 44Y0jrIbGIbg1g+yF4LmeVn9B5acTAVhTr0IKvrAiMU9zmXzmF74T8KLval555H/q4Zu I1y6VuJiUwVJAVUbc6RCf+J5txUk7S5exhDKU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RZEgsNYy9YPpjbrhzhXpZ0JlwWHbqOqFaTPVUoyXCAvYLswusdgU/a7nJzf8SpCTzK tzO6BQkBq2SYSEuIEEB9jO1QeMDNVPBl72XJG7pPQ1bPYOv4GEjqAmouaDIltilo9RMz +Fmk9TCV8pqSii2mp33poyu876932p9cecaAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 14:05:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <64u3xB.A.aeE.wMc1MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 21:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Wow! Looks cool to me. I always wanted to mess with a midi guitar. The description clearly says "Outside of Rock Band=99 3, plug into your favorite guitar amplifier for live performance, or use as a MIDI controller in your home recording studio." Seems like a heck of deal. No tremolo though that I can see. On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > http://admin.fender.com/rockband3/exclusive/ > > Looks interesting. > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 6 22:09:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04EF73BE89; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 22:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 23:09:30 +0100 Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender X-Originating-Ip: 98.180.40.193 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-03.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101106220930.A2BC815F021@c-in3ws--03-03.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 22:09:31 +0000 (UTC) > - >=20 >=20 > Wow! Looks cool to me. I always wanted to mess with a midi guitar. The > description clearly says "Outside of Rock Band=99 3, plug into your > favorite guitar amplifier for live performance, or use as a MIDI > controller in your home recording studio." Seems like a heck of deal. > No tremolo though that I can see. That would not be a very usable feature on a device designed for MIDI. I've= seen guitars modded with a MIDI pickup but never seen a player use it whil= e using a synth. Too much unpredictable pitches with such a device. I even = find doing slight bends can cause problems on my Godin & GR-30. Mostly depe= nds on the patch & how fast I attempt the bend. > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: > > http://admin.fender.com/rockband3/exclusive/ > > > > Looks interesting. > > > > Kevin > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troub= le. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 7 05:53:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A2B63BE86; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 05:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: D-tar solstice effects loop Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 22:53:27 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 05:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Ok maybe I was a bit cranky on my last post. I run my Fireworx on the two channel inserts of my Solstice pre amp and my LP-1 in mono on the master send and return,so that I can capture any of the effects processing on my looper, and have a master blender between the direct sound and the loop sound. you will need to use trs stereo to 1/4 inch Y cables for the inserts to connect both channels to your effect . Because the Fireworx is XLR, I had to have a pair of cables made. This routing scheme is mono so any panning effects will sound like deep tremolo and any stereo delays will be summed to mono. You can also run your stereo looper in the inserts and run your effect in the master effects loop if you like to do post processing of your loops,and you can always run the unused output from your effect and or looper direct to the mixer /stereo powered speakers. There are ways to stereo-ize the output from your Dtar by either running in to your stereo looper at that point or in to your stereo effect at that point or both. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 7 07:15:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 181D43BE86; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 07:15:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1289114140; bh=ZKE3XDaW+dkHVnRcLSmK9Q6CoSGfkOmlbE2cMmhORvI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nmtD0Hu6Gim2dFJZF/LwCpSO1cjLgMfCCEvV5+vPRlWD+YTI9to5aYpm5/1C9j+Ib//Q4Ru4k4w0UA9ca+QSZQf7nyFpVuEdBIEfRBu2M5T9JEQ2QkQdJrN02AWpf9Q5r2ezTfVAdHgCNTCdwr9tqFR9mSCw/eIj2jFObTcRMbo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RaK81uZKE5S9EAegng7PUwqUlrQhKNRF0z2V+hhkjXOtfUXgw1WNPOo99GBt+ygi8hbyI6O/5duXdweKNhENo2TONp2L+mEg/14A7zvHG5e5uFk2YGer04vczjNQweaAqDevDeg8Crz7QHtfvTGfUuxboO0TTZHMi26Ckq8D4Wk=; Message-ID: <768271.99483.qm@web30404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AKD6kMQVM1lzyI52O.UZZXpct59yw_9WNB7I4xfPQ.oLa7P nBV7zUopmYyNFZb3kbLuRClglFCQ9bQSGbVg4Ced5DIqQAwT9v6W0MpkVwa4 tofz3fzVJc3pDpHhBIAGy5QVp.Y3xB07IrdY09cAHMfDy7ciNq2ZST8g4pAV F9qE62DN6y0te9Dz6oerMDL46RH.Rj5ImQ0BQT7aWf3xL2Lngy4EYJ_u9DRQ 4tOnn0foKQHqEKStvVnqXMibOS2Tk2EV10Ud912CyE2V4wI3BbrN9per2jPc FBXAEslXKCSiQ.9K98wDe1uerL9z1Oi7kBdkQoyX_9e.6V5bKqYoWDVbKsSZ 4yWZijsG12I4R6O1o76pUdc2Lv0FVKEYpEg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.9 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.284920 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 00:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Radio Spot Spam-Uccello Project on KPIG To: LOOPER'S DELIGHT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 07:15:41 +0000 (UTC) Hello Loopers, For any on the California central coast, or anyone who listens to KPIG on the net (I know, it's lame, they make you pay a pittance to stream) I'll be doing a bit of the old Live Looping on the "Please Stand By" show tomorrow morning (Sunday the 7th) at 10:00am pst. I'm sharing the spot with w/ singer-songwriter Amy Obensky http://www.amyobenski.com/ to advertise our show together in Santa Cruz tomorrow afternoon. If interested in going RSVP to this email off list. It will be a great day of music! -side note: I'm also exited about how my rig is in it's most streamlined state ever (Upright Bass w/ new Rick Turner pick-up system, Reso-Bass, LP-1/midi buddy, verb, compressor, tiny Art mixer, light weight stand to hold it up, and GK microbass 150 amp. Low schlepage factor and clear sounds :) Anyhow, if you tune in and enjoy the music it's much appreciated-thanks for entertaining my ramblings, hope you're all doing great! Steve Uccello http://steveuccello.com/ http://www.kpig.com/listen/ KPIG FM 107.5 Freedom, CA KPYG FM 94.9 Cayucos/SLO, CA From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 7 09:20:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 130843BE84; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EIrFFzxkg4wpA6eEv2hokGZkzOUo4Ov84EXDm+VseCo=; b=wHm/1dIsyIxyOvqylHqd/VC079ljTa4OOQCfwrmOiTAInJSEL7jZ33mMaDKohOKbSu 3nH3/MRZU6F7K77KlRKgBeecSFjYOeLBXxIlmuSXYcAeLNy4062f8JYW5y21n3QglHaK jxYj9qQtAtPXxTt9yQiG1DwDNhPzG99dxjxvc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Yxwu0KaVC1e3OoxtD/jf3maAlRvkahmIi1KYE3AhEvsn2TFIWjpEEMpRvDYFP2/VMZ lNqu+5IqUm7n2Wc/jj8aVpmKH71ux/jqWsJTfdEKDYVy2pLU9bE+zQhotRcaDaB1wOoc Lz6bN66gx7T81glqr1KPL3pAqXwNNtn+7zfp4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:49:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bfdd5bd3b504947296da Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:20:28 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bfdd5bd3b504947296da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill what would then be the advantage of using the D-tar to a small mini mixer like the compact Tapco blend which has 2 aux sends and returns? rack mounting perhaps? the only thing the mixer doesnt have is the mid EQ,no really neccesary if u are using an FX proccessor with EQ capabilities cheers Luis On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:53 AM, William Walker wrote: > Ok maybe I was a bit cranky on my last post. I run my Fireworx on the two > channel inserts of my Solstice pre amp and my LP-1 in mono on the master > send and return,so that I can capture any of the effects processing on my > looper, and have a master blender between the direct sound and the loop > sound. you will need to use trs stereo to 1/4 inch Y cables for the inserts > to connect both channels to your effect . Because the Fireworx is XLR, I > had to have a pair of cables made. This routing scheme is mono so any > panning effects will sound like deep tremolo and any stereo delays will be > summed to mono. You can also run your stereo looper in the inserts and run > your effect in the master effects loop if you like to do post processing of > your loops,and you can always run the unused output from your effect and or > looper direct to the mixer /stereo powered speakers. There are ways to > stereo-ize the output from your Dtar by either running in to your stereo > looper at that point or in to your stereo effect at that point or both. > Bill > > --001636c5bfdd5bd3b504947296da Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill what would then be the advantage of using the D-tar to a small mini mi= xer like the compact Tapco blend which has 2 aux sends and returns? rack mo= unting perhaps?
the only thing the mixer doesnt have is the mid EQ,no re= ally neccesary if u are using an FX proccessor with EQ capabilities
cheers
Luis

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:5= 3 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
Ok maybe I was a bit cranky on my last post. =A0I run my Fireworx =A0on the= two channel inserts =A0of my Solstice pre amp and my LP-1 in mono on the m= aster send and return,so that I can capture any of the effects processing o= n my looper, and have a master blender between the direct sound and the loo= p sound. you will need to use trs stereo to 1/4 inch Y cables for the inser= ts to connect both channels to your effect . =A0Because the Fireworx is XLR= , I had to have a pair of cables made. This routing scheme is mono so any p= anning effects will sound like deep tremolo and any stereo delays will be s= ummed to mono. You can also run your stereo looper in the inserts and run y= our effect in the master effects loop if you like to do post processing of = your loops,and you can always run the unused output from your effect and or= looper direct to the mixer /stereo powered speakers. =A0There are ways to = stereo-ize the output from your Dtar by either running in to your stereo lo= oper at that point or in to your stereo effect at that point or both.
Bill


--001636c5bfdd5bd3b504947296da-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 7 09:50:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAE4D3BE86; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:50:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 519654442/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.176.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.176.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtEBANsE1kxV0rBB/2dsb2JhbAAHlAPIMYVIBI1U X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,309,1286146800"; d="scan'208";a="519654442" Message-ID: <4CD6765A.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:50:18 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender References: <20101106220930.A2BC815F021@c-in3ws--03-03.sv2.lotuslive.com> In-Reply-To: <20101106220930.A2BC815F021@c-in3ws--03-03.sv2.lotuslive.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8nRiFB.A.HUB.QZn1MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:50:08 +0000 (UTC) Mark Showalter wrote: > > That would not be a very usable feature on a device designed for MIDI. >I've seen guitars modded with a MIDI pickup but never seen a player use it while using a synth. > Too much unpredictable pitches with such a device. I even find doing slight bends can cause >problems on my Godin & GR-30. Mostly depends on the patch & how fast I attempt the bend. > hi Mark, here's some good news for you, guitars fitted with a MIDI p/u *can* track string bends very well. The midi converter has to be set to send Midi pitch bend (which can be switched off), and then the amount of midi pitch bend has to be matched between the midi converter and the synth that's being driven. Don't know about the GR-30, but usually the Midi pitch bend information is usually essential to good tracking, as the midi note can often be off by a semitone, and then the pitch been info is used to correct that 'mistake' more or less seamlessly. ...so a correct setup as described here will improve your tracking even if you don't bend notes. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 7 15:26:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 569A43BE8C; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 15:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 16:26:51 +0100 Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender X-Originating-Ip: 98.180.40.193 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101107152651.1C5A577A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9TzmOC.A.SDG.8Us1MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 15:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Hello Andy, I was referring to the use of a whammy bar, if I understood the post I was = responding to. The GR-30 can be set per patch to use either fixed pitches o= r to respond to bends, & it does a fairly good job of it. The problem with = using a whammy bar would be that all of the strings would be varying in pit= ch & that would be a lot of info to try to track. I also think that there w= ould be no way for the MIDI synth to know which string was actually being p= layed & it would probably generate a lot of false or ghost notes that the p= layer would not want. Or just simply give up the ghost entirely........ > Mark Showalter wrote: >=20 > > > > That would not be a very usable feature on a device designed for=20 > > MIDI. I've seen guitars modded with a MIDI pickup but never seen=20 > > a player use it while using a synth. > > Too much unpredictable pitches with such a device. I even find=20 > > doing slight bends can cause problems on my Godin & GR-30. Mostly=20 > > depends on the patch & how fast I attempt the bend. > > >=20 > hi Mark, > here's some good news for you, > guitars fitted with a MIDI p/u *can* track string bends > very well. > The midi converter has to be set to send Midi pitch bend > (which can be switched off), > and then the amount of midi pitch bend has to be matched between the > midi converter and the synth that's being driven. >=20 > Don't know about the GR-30, but usually the Midi pitch bend > information is usually essential to good tracking, as the midi note=20 > can often be off by a semitone, and then the pitch been info is=20 > used to correct that 'mistake' more > or less seamlessly. ...so a correct setup as described here > will improve your tracking even if you don't bend notes. >=20 > andy butler >=20 > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 7 17:16:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58BDB3BE8E; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 17:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CD6DED4.3080701@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:16:04 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender References: <4815156.52.1289143563437.JavaMail.root@m08> In-Reply-To: <4815156.52.1289143563437.JavaMail.root@m08> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 17:16:08 +0000 (UTC) On 11/7/10 10:26 AM, Mark Showalter wrote: > Hello Andy, > > I was referring to the use of a whammy bar, if I understood the post I was responding to. The GR-30 can be set per patch to use either fixed pitches or to respond to bends,& it does a fairly good job of it. The problem with using a whammy bar would be that all of the strings would be varying in pitch& that would be a lot of info to try to track. I also think that there would be no way for the MIDI synth to know which string was actually being played& it would probably generate a lot of false or ghost notes that the player would not want. Or just simply give up the ghost entirely........ I suppose that depends upon how certain parameters are set. If each string's info is sent all on one MIDI channel, then, yes, that would be a total cluster-frell. However, setting each string to transmit on it's own MIDI channel, then any pitch bend on any or all strings can be handled... within reason, I'm sure. A synth receiving on six channels ought to track. If pitch bend is due to fingers bending a few strings a little bit, then Andy's reply is in full force. I'd wager that a slight vibrato from a whammy bar could also be tracked well enough. However, I suspect (but have no empirical data) that a total dive bomb would cause at least a little havoc. Does anyone have the hardware to try out such a thing? :) I'd like to hear your test results... Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 7 18:02:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1C523BE93; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Revfever Subject: OT: Vocoder Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:27:56 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=6.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on host.newworlddelivery.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host6.webserveralpha.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ubergadget.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:02:47 +0000 (UTC) I'm not sure if this book has been previously mentioned or discussed on LD, but if not then I highly REVcommend getting a copy of and reading 'How To Wreck A Nice Beach'! (2010. Dave Tompkins. A former columnist for The Wire.) This book is INCREDIBLE as is also the LONG and convoluted history of the vocoder, the earliest origins of which go as far back as *1928*! And, a later form of the vocoder was something that contributed to helping defeat the nazis in WWII ! I had great difficulty in putting this book down to go to bed etc because it was SO interesting (and very entertaining!) that I just wanted to read, and read, and KEEP reading! It is really THAT GOOD! And, where else can ya find Kraftwerk / Florian Schneider, Sun Ra, Wendy Carlos, Whodini, Afrika Bambataa, Holger Czukay, and MANY MORE all under the same roof!? And, is a very worthy addition to just about any musician's / music lover's / etc library. Beautifully published hardback with also a lot of great photos and images! Enjoy! Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland,OR http://www,spiritone.com/~rvfever From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 7 19:02:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 627803BE91; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3B714FE2-B244-4197-A93C-5D6B59007BC6@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--535807905 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 11:02:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:02:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--535807905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill what would then be the advantage of using the D-tar to a small mini mixer like the compact Tapco blend which has 2 aux sends and returns? rack mounting perhaps? the only thing the mixer doesnt have is the mid EQ,no really neccesary if u are using an FX proccessor with EQ capabilities cleaner preamps, more musical and powerfull eg designed for acoustic instruments., phase switches on each channel, and routing flexibilty for live performance, just not stereo. I don't perform much in true stereo anymore, and if I want to I'll break out my rane SM-82 mixer. Having delays panning back and forth and that kind of thing are great if you happen to be sitting in the sweet spot where you can hear the imaging and appreciate the ear candy, but its not essential to me in a live setting. I used to be completely addicted to having stereo imaging on everything and now its not so crucial to my live playing experience. If I'm running my non looping rig I like using two amps in stereo but as much for the complimentary quailites of sound each amp gives as for the imaging of effects. But for my DI rig I'd rather keep it simple. And guess what? its no less inspiring to make music with. Bill --Apple-Mail-1--535807905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill what would then be the advantage of using the = D-tar to a small mini mixer like the compact Tapco blend which has 2 aux = sends and returns? rack mounting perhaps?
the only thing the mixer = doesnt have is the mid EQ,no really neccesary if u are using an FX = proccessor with EQ capabilities cleaner = preamps, more musical and powerfull eg designed for acoustic = instruments., phase switches on each channel, and routing flexibilty for = live performance, just not stereo. I don't perform much in true stereo = anymore, and if I want to I'll break out my rane SM-82 mixer. =  Having delays panning back and forth and that kind of thing are = great if you happen to be sitting in the sweet spot where you can hear = the imaging and appreciate the ear candy, but its not essential to me in = a live setting. I used to be completely addicted to having stereo = imaging on everything and now its not so crucial to my live playing = experience. If I'm running my non looping rig I like using two amps in = stereo but as much for the complimentary quailites of sound each amp = gives as for the imaging of effects. But for my DI rig I'd rather keep = it simple. And guess what? its no less inspiring to make music = with.
Its not= like a mono guitar going thru a mono effect to a mono looper to a mono amp= ?

I stopped trying to loop a stereo signal al= ong time ago, I actually=A0didn't=A0mind that after closing the loop it= s sounds different.=A0
I have a stereo signal in my effect chain, ending in reverb (an effect= that just=A0doesn't=A0really even work in mono, apart from the sometim= es cool "mush" sound. I take a mono send to the loopers, and then= each looper has a "stereo-izing" effect. so everything SOUNDS st= ereo, just not real, proper stereo.

I dont agree that there is a "sweet spot" whe= re you will get the correct sound, well there is, but there ALWAYS is... an= d a "proper gig" its somewhere just in front of the front of hous= e sound board., and in a live band, you can can easily be stuck on the side= of the room with the bass amp... and a stereo delay will just be a bit mor= e on beatish or off beatish, depending on where you stand... and thats just= great!
--90e6ba6e8f22033fca04947cd869-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 7 23:51:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A87C83BE8D; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 23:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:51:44 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4f6fba20-cda5-422e-b6c5-a24233346626_" X-Originating-IP: [12.232.69.66] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 17:46:43 -0600 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2010 23:46:43.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[0826C210:01CB7ED6] Resent-Message-ID: <8DpgnD.A.UtG.Quz1MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 23:51:44 +0000 (UTC) --_4f6fba20-cda5-422e-b6c5-a24233346626_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable howdy loopers! finally=2C a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqJVHr3gu9L0 please feel free to send feedback my way=2C let me know if there are any pr= oblems loading the video. and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album=2C you can go here: http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/ if you enjoy what you see/hear=2C please please please forward this email t= o anyone you think may enjoy it as well. cheers! The Wandering Madman=20 = --_4f6fba20-cda5-422e-b6c5-a24233346626_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable howdy loopers!

finally=2C a new video has been posted on youtube - e= njoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqJVHr3gu9L0

please fee= l free to send feedback my way=2C let me know if there are any problems loa= ding the video.

and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new albu= m=2C you can go here:

http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/
if you enjoy what you see/hear=2C please please please forward this email = to anyone you think may enjoy it as well.

cheers!

The= Wandering Madman

= --_4f6fba20-cda5-422e-b6c5-a24233346626_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 02:43:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 560023BE91; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 02:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9NrCMbTxlimNDGHoEIrP1tdzrMUKaU++NoMR2sA2y7Y=; b=LfLpKMUIboyMPpEYlVMvFoxhsjw/dtRxsTyw1lo4qj01UImx03EEq0uIUGcTE2Nw8D 49mnBxbm27KRI5xT4kfefQlyDVTypOMD8IZlXt30RQ/l8QGGblCmmaMAJkvqwMnsscgj LWltIbkOTaL15H8vxG4G8JB2m+wcFBPzgQ720= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kk9IDhqgFpWloMIPhtth5o7CPFBVbBdLJ+ib6AsRfckNdx2Ow1Fg0ZktQ3GD7Ovq3V hptVAlDHpBKpOttJ34EkiChS0bUMobRwx5jYeRcjuojD62zfwVSyt63GRm6PSYL7SR1w XT4dG3aHM4Ham4/FM5Q4NfvP28OQcOvRcRWSc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20101104054012.4A37C3BE8B@arsenic.violacea.com> <4CD2A8C0.6030309@waste.org> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:43:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V10 #831 From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e43ae2185dc8d04948197e6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 02:43:42 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4e43ae2185dc8d04948197e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Love it. Beautiful. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:52 AM, daniel wrote: > Cool sound man. I dig. > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:36 AM, crash wrote: > >> We interrupt this loopers delight thread with an announcement of 3 >> ambient looping projects I'm releasing at once that you can listen to for >> free at bandcamp (streamed). >> >> http://aliensporebomb.bandcamp.com/ >> >> All of the music is me on electric guitar, gk3 hex pickup into a roland >> vg-99 with custom patches into the augustus loop audio looper. The VG >> is really an amazing box I must say. >> >> What sounds like synthesizer is actually HEAVILY processed guitar. Check >> it out if you like. It's the kind of thing that you could listen to while >> working, >> studying, etc. >> >> Hope you enjoy. >> >> -Todd >> >> > --e0cb4e43ae2185dc8d04948197e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Love it. Beautiful.

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 a= t 8:52 AM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:
Cool sound man. I dig.

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:36 AM, crash &l= t;crash@waste.org&= gt; wrote:
=A0We interrupt this loopers delight thread with an announcement of 3 ambie= nt looping projects I'm releasing at once that you can listen to for fr= ee at bandcamp (streamed).

http://al= iensporebomb.bandcamp.com/

All of the music is me on electric guitar, gk3 hex pickup into a roland vg-= 99 with custom patches into the augustus loop audio looper. =A0The VG
is really an amazing box I must say.

What sounds like synthesizer is actually HEAVILY processed guitar. =A0Check= it out if you like. =A0It's the kind of thing that you could listen to= while working,
studying, etc.

Hope you enjoy.

-Todd



--e0cb4e43ae2185dc8d04948197e6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 08:53:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10E343BE90; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 08:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 520284381/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.176.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.176.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8BAEpI10xV0rBB/2dsb2JhbAAHk3vKG4VIBI1U X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,313,1286146800"; d="scan'208";a="520284381" Message-ID: <4CD7BA7A.3090106@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 08:53:14 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender References: <20101107152651.1C5A577A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> In-Reply-To: <20101107152651.1C5A577A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 08:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Mark Showalter wrote: > Hello Andy, > > I was referring to the use of a whammy bar, if I understood the post I was responding to. >The GR-30 can be set per patch to use either fixed pitches or to respond to bends, & > it does a fairly good job of it. The problem with using a whammy bar would be >that all of the strings would be varying in pitch & that would be a lot of info to try to track. So that's a hypothetical? Or a known fault of the GR-30? >I also think that there would be no way for the MIDI synth to know which string was actually being played Actually there is a way which is, afaik, is standard to midi guitar. Don't know if the GR-30 does this, but would be a significant lack if it didn't. Each string is broadcast on a separate channel. You need to use that mode if you're combining any sort of pitch bend with any playing style that sounds more than one note at a time. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 09:23:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00A8E3BE8D; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 528878308/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.176.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.176.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8BAH9Q10xV0rBB/2dsb2JhbAAHk3zKOIVIBI1U X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,313,1286146800"; d="scan'208";a="528878308" Message-ID: <4CD7C1B1.5030602@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:24:01 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender References: <4815156.52.1289143563437.JavaMail.root@m08> <4CD6DED4.3080701@soundscapes.us> In-Reply-To: <4CD6DED4.3080701@soundscapes.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Bill Fox wrote: > However, I > suspect (but have no empirical data) that a total dive bomb would cause > at least a little havoc. It would stop tracking when the limit of midi pitch bend was reached. Usually at 12 semitones. If you used an open low E string it might give up some time before that, as the range of pitch detection usually won't go much below the range of the guitar. >Does anyone have the hardware to try out such > a thing? :) I'd like to hear your test results... I have experimented with pitch bend range, but not with a whammy, just with bends and with fretless bass. It seemed to work as expected. One side effect is that with a wavetable patch the sample will be bent out of it's best sounding range. Didn't record audio tho :-( andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 10:40:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F1DD3BE93; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NJAxZJBf9DP0NmCXygynExjhWnBpPCrI40UE/ouSbxs=; b=WHqPDp0V3H6H+z6hd/kU5c7EhHsaHO4hc9kEh/7vZuizeEckTQ9EtoISFi8vQcpTG3 vx7xamXxkKIIMRXjbOZ4p5A5IdrV/0UmeSX9BZvqOaK81sXjdoxNrTXzDQJsyZ5GxrT/ 4w+IIWR9llci/e7bS4b6mmp9mOPstoxMmvU9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZEnkNNhU/LuYdZtDzhMNTkUoJBwPT3hbaGc93tjqG4X/Zwck97CnwRDXxyx+5mdL/D YoJXxTmGsZH9BeTDUBllxan7azkroBg0lW0XnJG+wqvT7+kGGrHx4BzfALoCbUnRha9E De5XhRyCA+kJY3hyVML3q73+8NyIaYCQ2IHrI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:40:08 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48f54801f840494883fef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:40:09 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48f54801f840494883fef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 superb! On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:46 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > howdy loopers! > > finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVHr3gu9L0 > > please feel free to send feedback my way, let me know if there are any > problems loading the video. > > and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go here: > > http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/ > > if you enjoy what you see/hear, please please please forward this email to > anyone you think may enjoy it as well. > > cheers! > > The Wandering Madman > > --000e0cd48f54801f840494883fef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable superb!

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:46 PM, = FRO DIDDLY <= parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:
howdy loopers!

finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enj= oy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqJVHr3gu9L0

please = feel free to send feedback my way, let me know if there are any problems lo= ading the video.

and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go h= ere:

http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/

if you enjoy what= you see/hear, please please please forward this email to anyone you think = may enjoy it as well.

cheers!

The= Wandering Madman


--000e0cd48f54801f840494883fef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 10:54:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B5683BE92; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18yikkCBrAy7j2UIMNQZM0G221nmV+IGuCo7zu17q s+fF6CFaIWBeyI Message-ID: <4CD7D6E8.5050407@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 11:54:32 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030607020609090805000006" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:54:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030607020609090805000006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree! Am 08.11.10 11:40, schrieb Simeon Harris: > superb! > > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:46 PM, FRO DIDDLY > wrote: > > howdy loopers! > > finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVHr3gu9L0 > > please feel free to send feedback my way, let me know if there are > any problems loading the video. > > and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go > here: > > http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/ > > if you enjoy what you see/hear, please please please forward this > email to anyone you think may enjoy it as well. > > cheers! > > The Wandering Madman > > -- http://www.nirmala07.net --------------030607020609090805000006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I agree!

Am 08.11.10 11:40, schrieb Simeon Harris:
superb!

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:46 PM, FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:
howdy loopers!

finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVHr3gu9L0

please feel free to send feedback my way, let me know if there are any problems loading the video.

and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go here:

http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/

if you enjoy what you see/hear, please please please forward this email to anyone you think may enjoy it as well.

cheers!

The Wandering Madman




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http://www.nirmala07.net

--------------030607020609090805000006-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 12:22:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C72DE3BE91; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w2UD1V+ngw73NVV1rheKm1ilyu5YUjO+XThxPdTtEk8=; b=B/PIJzV5ZhEOkC2gtLCuvcEtm3XkCnOJSAJfaVjpV3FDJkmXmOoETY9C+kdNERa1tx oJN02xWg+SVfp6gqmEDzUxmz10wv4GNh3WxCycmWQxV5oskqYWRq/OiqOJlIj1lExBiW p12rHZbOGBrPzzjU5s7zgQOM4D/tsA8gW894k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wIgkm1pBOXvVSfZwrkIv01v2WGK9Uuddxne4gaK3dOuErElUoWmN0pUK+eLT//Fcco C5WzuFI6OiLXcFyS71kKFRhbRDmGoMHymjgNsblnV3nETiE2qcLGO0t4700HzzcYBKzP UMrwA0+zkaqW38TW5VoXkk89vYyKPQDxX8hwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3B714FE2-B244-4197-A93C-5D6B59007BC6@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 13:22:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bfdda19d10049489aee2 Resent-Message-ID: <0Dr3BC.A.WmD.au-1MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:22:50 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bfdda19d10049489aee2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 since i have the trance audio pickup system mounted on my acoustic which amplifies the bass strings and treble strings separate,is great to take advantage of that,putting an octaver on the bass strings and other effects on the treble strings for ex. Im the other way around,ive always been mono and lately trying more things in stereo,right now i sitll havent gotten tired of it;-) As far as cleaner premps and more power,i compared the D-tar to my tapco blend mixer and didnt really notice much difference,but the EQ on the D-tar is sure wonderful! cheers Luis On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:03 PM, mark francombe wrote: > But you are not saying that you are in mono are you Bill...? > Its not like a mono guitar going thru a mono effect to a mono looper to a > mono amp? > > I stopped trying to loop a stereo signal along time ago, I > actually didn't mind that after closing the loop its sounds different. > I have a stereo signal in my effect chain, ending in reverb (an effect that > just doesn't really even work in mono, apart from the sometimes cool "mush" > sound. I take a mono send to the loopers, and then each looper has a > "stereo-izing" effect. so everything SOUNDS stereo, just not real, proper > stereo. > > I dont agree that there is a "sweet spot" where you will get the correct > sound, well there is, but there ALWAYS is... and a "proper gig" its > somewhere just in front of the front of house sound board., and in a live > band, you can can easily be stuck on the side of the room with the bass > amp... and a stereo delay will just be a bit more on beatish or off beatish, > depending on where you stand... and thats just great! > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > --001636c5bfdda19d10049489aee2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable since i have the trance audio pickup system mounted on my acoustic which am= plifies the bass strings and treble strings separate,is great to take advan= tage of that,putting an octaver on the bass strings and other effects on th= e treble strings for ex.
Im the other way around,ive always been mono and lately trying more things = in stereo,right now i sitll havent gotten tired of it;-)
As far as clean= er premps and more power,i compared the D-tar to my tapco blend mixer and d= idnt really notice much difference,but the EQ on the D-tar is sure wonderfu= l!
cheers
Luis

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:= 03 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
But you are not saying that you are in mono are you Bill...?=A0
Its not= like a mono guitar going thru a mono effect to a mono looper to a mono amp= ?

I stopped trying to loop a stereo signal al= ong time ago, I actually=A0didn't=A0mind that after closing the loop it= s sounds different.=A0
I have a stereo signal in my effect chain, ending in reverb (an effect= that just=A0doesn't=A0really even work in mono, apart from the sometim= es cool "mush" sound. I take a mono send to the loopers, and then= each looper has a "stereo-izing" effect. so everything SOUNDS st= ereo, just not real, proper stereo.

I dont agree that there is a "sweet spot" whe= re you will get the correct sound, well there is, but there ALWAYS is... an= d a "proper gig" its somewhere just in front of the front of hous= e sound board., and in a live band, you can can easily be stuck on the side= of the room with the bass amp... and a stereo delay will just be a bit mor= e on beatish or off beatish, depending on where you stand... and thats just= great!

--001636c5bfdda19d10049489aee2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 14:15:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37CF83BE93; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=43ZPYryaaYsmMgJ7h2diEpBtJVqj03HOWDM0+QWnFIs=; b=XSqyKrWFH3lJY30Ky6rbCNj+W8URUCI6rohPAUY8ufrb52ymqYMVBUQrGIoZVqo+56 1/1bZZlscSLNOTAfDlym8w2uEv5rRTUYwQtkEwK3bRM4hpGyA5oqI1ybCdlP5tuUMS0O atIRbx/40ekPMPLIg85ISB3FTNoQ7b86+/HII= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PIq4zL74VXgwnyP0wwHyC+YC0cwj3shoH+G9hXJeVIETaTcNoGsZiFIOgNhnBdhrGD 0fbqweZIcvxWwjW1/00E3UVLwQQwHSBJ27ig/+UWYK8BXND5WiQmn26m/bmgUvMwQpso g5oPKzp88l0T+GScHA7unVwOv/767ulq4lclo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CD7D6E8.5050407@gmx.de> References: <4CD7D6E8.5050407@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:15:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a91a5f763104948b41c7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:15:26 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a91a5f763104948b41c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 man fro great voice you have man! using mobius? On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Nadia Salom wrote: > > I agree! > > Am 08.11.10 11:40, schrieb Simeon Harris: > > superb! > > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:46 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > >> howdy loopers! >> >> finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy! >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVHr3gu9L0 >> >> please feel free to send feedback my way, let me know if there are any >> problems loading the video. >> >> and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go here: >> >> http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/ >> >> if you enjoy what you see/hear, please please please forward this email to >> anyone you think may enjoy it as well. >> >> cheers! >> >> The Wandering Madman >> >> > > > -- > > http://www.nirmala07.net > --001636c5a91a5f763104948b41c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 man fro great voice you have man!
using mobius?

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de> wrote:

I agree!

Am 08.11.10 11:40, schrieb Simeon Harris:
superb!

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:46 PM, FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:
howdy loopers!

finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVHr3gu9L0

please feel free to send feedback my way, let me know if there are any problems loading the video.

and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go here:

http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/

if you enjoy what you see/hear, please please please forward this email to anyone you think may enjoy it as well.

cheers!

The Wandering Madman





--001636c5a91a5f763104948b41c7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 14:24:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E5B53BE91; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=d301XgPGl3KgguVyMiPBn/8t98TZYUgtZMurHq7TFrM=; b=NiMplcWxSfMh8iDDNWZNvYfGbAfX/ihFVLRMf8I5vaPYOfT4fqt1IB9Gl6CV+PupJm vNx6BUfVX9/nvacc/Ng6k+iqCuf2Bi1TQuylnM4WP/GCgMLVKpITi5qD45EK2DxlBGyK wBmFjGT0CA6SmYcd7P2rFV2dhv0k0m05mpXbY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=Y/9tnkZ75ntrnhHmPbb2Z3gIdh6qfOruQTas71qNkZ1MbvsuHrJ1cBo1SwKFwZbiG3 7aZJMJmwhFKi4/Mojq/g+H5rqrhD5Ea/2mn/eCaqGPIlRBFg5EWhlBaT0M/ZQK/M7mo8 w7yJyILwfou5RZtb3XyLWsGT5nHaCu9gVykO0= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--466065535 Subject: Re: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:24:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:24:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--466065535 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii bad ass! excellent build up of intensity On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:46 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > howdy loopers! >=20 > finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy! >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqJVHr3gu9L0 >=20 > please feel free to send feedback my way, let me know if there are any = problems loading the video. >=20 > and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go = here: >=20 > http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/ >=20 > if you enjoy what you see/hear, please please please forward this = email to anyone you think may enjoy it as well. >=20 > cheers! >=20 > The Wandering Madman=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--466065535 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii bad ass! excellent build up of = intensity




On= Nov 7, 2010, at 6:46 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote:

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DqJVHr3gu9L0

please feel free to send feedback my = way, let me know if there are any problems loading the video.

and = if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go = here:

http://thewanderingmadman= .bandcamp.com/

if you enjoy what you see/hear, please please = please forward this email to anyone you think may enjoy it as = well.

cheers!

The = Wandering Madman 


= --Apple-Mail-1--466065535-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 14:34:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A02B3BE8E; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6965 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Nov 2010 14:34:08 UTC Message-ID: <82F1F1BEA90944399DB48337C3279C8B@bob> From: "patrick dunn" To: Subject: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:37:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01F6_01CB7F41.C606FE60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18483 Resent-Message-ID: <8IW_gB.A.9_F.jpA2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:34:11 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01F6_01CB7F41.C606FE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone - I'm doing a masters paper on various aspects of digital = looping used in live performance. I'm particularly interested in the = musical structures that result during live performance, the = compositional process, styles used etc. Although there's quite a bit = written about this on the web, I can find very little in the way of = research papers from academic institutions, journals etc.=20 Does anyone know of anything? Or maybe other masters papers, = dissertations etc. I'm not particularly looking at technology issues, = except where they affect what results during the performance.=20 Thanks! Patrick ------=_NextPart_000_01F6_01CB7F41.C606FE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone - I'm doing a masters paper = on various=20 aspects of digital looping used in live performance. I'm particularly = interested=20 in the musical structures that result during live performance, the = compositional=20 process, styles used etc. Although there's quite a bit written about = this on the=20 web, I can find very little in the way of research papers from academic=20 institutions, journals etc.
 
Does anyone know of anything? Or maybe = other=20 masters papers, dissertations etc. I'm not=20 particularly looking at technology issues, except where they affect what = results=20 during the performance.
 
Thanks!
 
Patrick
------=_NextPart_000_01F6_01CB7F41.C606FE60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 14:42:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E582B3BE94; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3EJJ1OD/S2XQizUCruBG4iZnataNn2Sc3gtX3zproTc=; b=sShoW8GapkaPQ4H25srn9FYZTfRxl1ns0d98KGUIy1+jIynM9uwKm+ik3EACJ+SPCn QJPFCqZDh3rhOD6uoM3adCf2iqW+DDtRV/qefjkr96UMgSRgk5Sgw/zgke1qGaD9n+8T Oy2R7fz1nPshe404T2LcbeHYgYHMQWDQvUScM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=X+D1rqqR9vdstCDEtHOqdYHM41XaLihV0kf/tTatbbWERGUbjF1rmujnNMI4Susk9e frD5XkgeJn6sst0q9Rl/KaROlm5ZqrBQI6uFYAkGB7Qc950oTkj9NrMeJq6KvGSRW13a gaNUBu7TF+tx6v4CxWTRbHBqjywzZ5T27sTkg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:42:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c136cda355004948ba0ac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:42:07 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c136cda355004948ba0ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like the drums a lot, nice moving orchestrated song Fro. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > bad ass! excellent build up of intensity > > > > > On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:46 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > > howdy loopers! > > finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqJVHr3gu9L0 > > please feel free to send feedback my way, let me know if there are any > problems loading the video. > > and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go here: > > http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/ > > if you enjoy what you see/hear, please please please forward this email t= o > anyone you think may enjoy it as well. > > cheers! > > The Wandering Madman > > > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --0015174c136cda355004948ba0ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like the drums a lot, nice moving orchestrated song Fro.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
bad ass! excellent build up of intensity




On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:46 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote:

howdy loopers!

finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enj= oy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqJVHr3gu9L0

please = feel free to send feedback my way, let me know if there are any problems lo= ading the video.

and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go h= ere:

http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/

if you enjoy what= you see/hear, please please please forward this email to anyone you think = may enjoy it as well.

cheers!

The Wandering Madman=A0


<= /div>


--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Fre= e Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the= sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wo= rdpress.com
--0015174c136cda355004948ba0ac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 14:42:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AC6B3BE8F; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 526275984/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.176.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.176.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsBAH+b10xV0rBB/2dsb2JhbAAHk3/MNYJ8gkwEjVQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,314,1286146800"; d="scan'208";a="526275984" Message-ID: <4CD80C74.9070200@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 14:43:00 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? References: <82F1F1BEA90944399DB48337C3279C8B@bob> In-Reply-To: <82F1F1BEA90944399DB48337C3279C8B@bob> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:42:47 +0000 (UTC) People have done analysis of a couple of my pieces, (the particular features of the looping gear I use strongly influence the compositional structure in an unusual way) ...is that the sort of thing you're after? Not sure which of the academic targets they were aiming for. andy butler www.andybutler.com patrick dunn wrote: > Hi everyone - I'm doing a masters paper on various aspects of digital > looping used in live performance. I'm particularly interested in the > musical structures that result during live performance, the > compositional process, styles used etc. Although there's quite a bit > written about this on the web, I can find very little in the way of > research papers from academic institutions, journals etc. > > Does anyone know of anything? Or maybe other masters papers, > dissertations etc. I'm not particularly looking at technology issues, > except where they affect what results during the performance. > > Thanks! > > Patrick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 15:08:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81B3F3BE90; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <9C99483198B14F6F891132265AC82696@bob> From: "patrick dunn" To: References: <82F1F1BEA90944399DB48337C3279C8B@bob> <4CD80C74.9070200@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4CD80C74.9070200@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:08:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18483 Resent-Message-ID: <5tzsKB.A.-yG.6JB2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Fab - that's what I'm looking for. Any ideas where I can look for them? Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > People have done analysis of a couple of my pieces, > (the particular features of the looping gear I use > strongly influence the compositional structure in an unusual way) > ...is that the sort of thing you're after? > Not sure which of the academic targets they were aiming for. > > andy butler > www.andybutler.com > > > patrick dunn wrote: >> Hi everyone - I'm doing a masters paper on various aspects of digital >> looping used in live performance. I'm particularly interested in the >> musical structures that result during live performance, the >> compositional process, styles used etc. Although there's quite a bit >> written about this on the web, I can find very little in the way of >> research papers from academic institutions, journals etc. >> >> Does anyone know of anything? Or maybe other masters papers, >> dissertations etc. I'm not particularly looking at technology issues, >> except where they affect what results during the performance. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Patrick > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 15:20:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5BBE3BE91; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:20:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=d_4uBYes9-kA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=eC3odPWwhVDdGHmkThQA:9 a=_uCIVX9ddwhhmxaOWoWRsJ0E-VYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 07:20:13 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:20:14 +0000 (UTC) Very nice. Not many covers of RADIOHEAD material come even close. Yours sure does. On Nov 7, 2010, at 3:46 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > howdy loopers! > > finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVHr3gu9L0 > > please feel free to send feedback my way, let me know if there are > any problems loading the video. > > and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go > here: > > http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/ > > if you enjoy what you see/hear, please please please forward this > email to anyone you think may enjoy it as well. > > cheers! > > The Wandering Madman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 15:27:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 407913BE92; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6Yk6NMzzUzr1HYq45IpBXw2M+5rN+b2ij3GNsFl1SGQ=; b=o+lgVz9uoNZejXwxsF+DcLdxnpIyd/m2qwO+LbRzhADj/UO6QVjlZALkw6kEhCThL9 oFWe5esm8RMuDehUp1x7Y5P2EB3XvZDZNYxWgtGVtpUA6c3PlckfaVtItn/D0DgZDxZ1 8Ra1Cprhdw+4uL+QldXPz4DAWuYbIY2iNwRq8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bRKj3lU83QSt+IZlLyO10D241/kGnsPpMxSy4HnKqoCei4FJ5ypfemwFclFT3ZoWLN QBEqMJPLJKjKT/4EZ4wQZRlyAGgkSdNYmkBrPENJT3l0rEeyHvo5d0QiDYX6Y5EcAfSJ m8kKMyum2sdNOoPg1kdmj4jH9WpqRYtOwdr1I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CD80C74.9070200@tiscali.co.uk> References: <82F1F1BEA90944399DB48337C3279C8B@bob> <4CD80C74.9070200@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 07:27:28 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:27:29 +0000 (UTC) In a previous thread on Fripp & Eno, someone posted a link to Geoff Smith's paper on "The History of Live Looping Music." Might be something of interest there: http://livelooping.org/researchpaper/ On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:43 AM, andy butler wrote: > People have done analysis of a couple of my pieces, > (the particular features of the looping gear I use > strongly influence the compositional structure in an unusual way) > ...is that the sort of thing you're after? > Not sure which of the =A0academic targets they were aiming for. > > andy butler > www.andybutler.com > > > patrick dunn wrote: >> >> Hi everyone - I'm doing a masters paper on various aspects of digital >> looping used in live performance. I'm particularly interested in the mus= ical >> structures that result during live performance, the compositional proces= s, >> styles used etc. Although there's quite a bit written about this on the = web, >> I can find very little in the way of research papers from academic >> institutions, journals etc. >> =A0Does anyone know of anything? Or maybe other masters papers, >> dissertations etc. I'm not particularly looking at technology issues, ex= cept >> where they affect what results during the performance. >> =A0Thanks! >> =A0Patrick > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 16:13:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49C233BE93; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3a4964a4-709d-43f5-b757-e0ef610d90d7_" X-Originating-IP: [32.170.96.39] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:13:57 -0600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2010 16:13:57.0115 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2225CB0:01CB7F5F] Resent-Message-ID: <2mYJCD.A.5Q.GHC2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:13:58 +0000 (UTC) --_3a4964a4-709d-43f5-b757-e0ef610d90d7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thankyou for the kind words everyone =3Bo) I should have another video or two by the end of the month- And yes mr Louie=2C Mobius till the day I die =3BoD Cheers > From: tedkillian@charter.net > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - > Date: Mon=2C 8 Nov 2010 07:20:13 -0800 >=20 > Very nice. >=20 > Not many covers of RADIOHEAD material come even close. >=20 > Yours sure does. >=20 >=20 > On Nov 7=2C 2010=2C at 3:46 PM=2C FRO DIDDLY wrote: >=20 > > howdy loopers! > > > > finally=2C a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy! > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqJVHr3gu9L0 > > > > please feel free to send feedback my way=2C let me know if there are =20 > > any problems loading the video. > > > > and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album=2C you can go =20 > > here: > > > > http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/ > > > > if you enjoy what you see/hear=2C please please please forward this =20 > > email to anyone you think may enjoy it as well. > > > > cheers! > > > > The Wandering Madman >=20 = --_3a4964a4-709d-43f5-b757-e0ef610d90d7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thankyou for the kind words everyone =3Bo)
I s= hould have another video or two by the end of the month-

And yes mr = Louie=2C Mobius till the day I die =3BoD

Cheers

> From:=3B= tedkillian@=3Bcharter.net
> To:=3B Loopers-Delight@=3Bloopers-= delight.com
> Subject:=3B Re:=3B FRO vs. RADIOHEAD :=3B STREET = SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman -
> Date:=3B Mon=2C 8 Nov 2010 07:= =3B20:=3B13 -0800
>
> Very nice.
>
> Not many covers of RA= DIOHEAD material come even close.
>
> Yours sure does.
>
> > On Nov 7=2C 2010=2C at 3:=3B46 PM=2C FRO DIDDLY wrote:=3B
> > >=3B howdy loopers!=3B
> >=3B
> >=3B finally=2C a new= video has been posted on youtube - enjoy!=3B
> >=3B
> >=3B = http:=3B//www.youtube.com/watch?=3Bv==3BqJVHr3gu9L0
> >=3B> >=3B please feel free to send feedback my way=2C let me know if ther= e are
> >=3B any problems loading the video.
> >=3B
> >= =3B and if you'=3Bld like to listen to/purchase my new album=2C you can = go
> >=3B here:=3B
> >=3B
> >=3B http:=3B//thewan= deringmadman.bandcamp.com/
> >=3B
> >=3B if you enjoy what you = see/hear=2C please please please forward this
> >=3B email to anyon= e you think may enjoy it as well.
> >=3B
> >=3B cheers!=3B> >=3B
> >=3B The Wandering Madman
>
= --_3a4964a4-709d-43f5-b757-e0ef610d90d7_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 16:22:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66A993BE8B; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=neMIPeJ3cM/2V5Pt/Zv852gVIcGeV55hUxzg2FUNX5U=; b=a5+mUP17D1kbWVhSbF35WsuiVh1s8Ejq057hJBYZHp5pXMcGkqxvlZmBOADg+XXV42 bMcTXzfoa+G01Ae4mdY7pex5OcmL2UMoM6A0keVGf0QWeC1rvTTAVLUz33rT1hM8aO1H RQwWbqAkYcWbT4Q/z/laTICyMCjdojk3BIDOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=V8AANIvTlBLrOrm9B6Kk7xEfcg8cnSTc9K7q8g6LH4bn47+CONfoawklFl9sNyH1kr jsd8uakkwqw3GZWHqNgif8q0nemhXT3C72Jo6vEkTXsDV3PEGJ0oYCk2dpBz1V27PCEA UEhb8n32/kaHTg5yo/3K7zCyqGjnxKkYB7gYY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:22:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a6b983b49204948d08eb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:22:42 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a6b983b49204948d08eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This was amazing! Very nice!! 2010/11/8 FRO DIDDLY > Thankyou for the kind words everyone ;o) > I should have another video or two by the end of the month- > > And yes mr Louie, Mobius till the day I die ;oD > > Cheers > > > From: tedkillian@charter.net > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - > > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 07:20:13 -0800 > > > > > Very nice. > > > > Not many covers of RADIOHEAD material come even close. > > > > Yours sure does. > > > > > > On Nov 7, 2010, at 3:46 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > > > > > howdy loopers! > > > > > > finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy! > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVHr3gu9L0 > > > > > > please feel free to send feedback my way, let me know if there are > > > any problems loading the video. > > > > > > and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you can go > > > here: > > > > > > http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com/ > > > > > > if you enjoy what you see/hear, please please please forward this > > > email to anyone you think may enjoy it as well. > > > > > > cheers! > > > > > > The Wandering Madman > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a6b983b49204948d08eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This was amazing! Very nice!!

2010/11/8 F= RO DIDDLY <p= arispro00@hotmail.com>
Thankyou for the kind words everyone ;o)
I should have another vide= o or two by the end of the month-

And yes mr Louie, Mobius till the = day I die ;oD

Cheers

> From: tedkillian@charter.net
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: FRO vs.= RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman -
> Date: Mon, 8 No= v 2010 07:20:13 -0800

>
> Very nice.
>
> = Not many covers of RADIOHEAD material come even close.
>
> You= rs sure does.
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 3:46 PM, FRO DID= DLY wrote:
>
> > howdy loopers!
> >
> > finally, a new = video has been posted on youtube - enjoy!
> >
> > http://= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqJVHr3gu9L0
> >
> > please feel free to send feedback my way, let me kno= w if there are
> > any problems loading the video.
> ><= br>> > and if you'ld like to listen to/purchase my new album, you= can go
> > here:
> >
> > http://thewanderingmadman.bandcamp.com= /
> >
> > if you enjoy what you see/hear, please plea= se please forward this
> > email to anyone you think may enjoy it as well.
> >
&= gt; > cheers!
> >
> > The Wandering Madman
>



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.c= om/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
= http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a6b983b49204948d08eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 17:08:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F6C83BE92; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:08:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <3B714FE2-B244-4197-A93C-5D6B59007BC6@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:08:33 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32843-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD4D7EB4F7A1B5-146C-1A72@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: <7oAqCC.A.rXB.n6C2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:08:55 +0000 (UTC) << so everything SOUNDS stereo, just not real, proper stereo.>> could you explain this, i've never understood the difference.....tanks=20 mucho! =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 17:16:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66AF93BE93; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:16:01 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32843-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD4D7FC02F2CB7-146C-1C47@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:16:21 +0000 (UTC) FRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 17:24:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEC283BE89; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zYgN9VEdDqsMwPbTUDQr3zUifTxvMhRMWCJe3snI5M0=; b=TniZpuGku9A1d7Pr/VlIqfSLuASOAX0xT/Epgr6FJ0OcAjiC0HfnRLzj/5KT8Qv7w6 CehvGSyYlnvFYwVAPHBgxnCluXD5vl0xdorz33IHyd0tM9EhXFVkalc11jSdgFXs4whp WiTatz/fz3VcnjDV47rTcIonDEc0z7jgedFHs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=V//oW7ij16OSXJkUMwGaGuE69Dp5zsWMrAPErTyLaYi4vA7b5VyTxVf6P7Jro0qlN1 Qwk3QGulpPaUM7hbYPsTtr1wjWEEfKgPNH4AxFABiOZdocsbwtmG1y58xSBZ1Blk6oc6 y+K/EKo+VJG85VNYiTAs/lz3krhIW9/M+1ZEo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD4D7EB4F7A1B5-146C-1A72@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> References: <3B714FE2-B244-4197-A93C-5D6B59007BC6@baymoon.com> <8CD4D7EB4F7A1B5-146C-1A72@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:24:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <8BjuxB.A.1vB.zID2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:24:03 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:08 PM, wrote: > << so everything SOUNDS stereo, just not real, proper stereo.>> > > could you explain this, i've never understood the difference.....tanks > mucho! When talking about reverb the term "true stereo" is mostly used. This means that if you send a stereo signal into the reverb and this signal contains a sound at one side of the stereo field the reverb is not just playing back the room a little more on the side - even early reflections are simulated earlier on the side where it is to appear more close to the imaginary wall. But I guess that in this thread "true stereo" simply means sending a stereo signal into a stereo process (here two parallel mono loopers forming a stereo pair) rather than sending a tapped mono signal into the stereo process. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 17:56:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7C103BE93; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=PsUDrtbpkP1Lny8uqOXBFGbdxtTt7bTtIpaNg51tQjVRlNTm6Lpr790Z2NWGOvO6; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:56:47 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: Vocoder Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79ff6e149fe5fa951ce185a00367e0035b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Excellent..!! My Grandfather worked for Bell Labs and was involved with the original "Voder" >I'm not sure if this book has been previously mentioned or discussed >on LD, but if not then I highly REVcommend getting a copy of and >reading 'How To Wreck A Nice Beach'! >(2010. Dave Tompkins. A former columnist for The Wire.) > >This book is INCREDIBLE as is also the LONG and convoluted history >of the vocoder, the earliest origins of which go as far back as >*1928*! And, a later form of the vocoder was something that >contributed to helping defeat the nazis in WWII ! I had great >difficulty in putting this book down to go to bed etc because it was >SO interesting (and very entertaining!) >that I just wanted to read, and read, and KEEP reading! It is >really THAT GOOD! And, where else can ya find Kraftwerk / Florian >Schneider, Sun Ra, Wendy Carlos, Whodini, Afrika Bambataa, Holger >Czukay, and MANY MORE all under the same roof!? And, is a very >worthy addition to just about any musician's / music lover's / etc >library. >Beautifully published hardback with also a lot of great photos and >images! Enjoy! > >Cheers, >Rev. Fever >Portland,OR >http://www,spiritone.com/~rvfever -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 17:57:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96A973BE92; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4CD7C1B1.5030602@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4815156.52.1289143563437.JavaMail.root@m08> <4CD6DED4.3080701@soundscapes.us> <4CD7C1B1.5030602@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:57:38 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Dustbunnies Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:57:48 +0000 (UTC) At 9:24 AM +0000 11/8/10, andy butler wrote: > >I have experimented with pitch bend range, but not with a whammy, >just with bends and with fretless bass. >It seemed to work as expected. I can pretty much confirm Andy's results. I've got a cheap lap steel onto which I've mounted a GK-3 (yes, I am actually crazy enough to put a GK pickup on a lap steel). I've been using it with the VG-99, which sounds really really (no, really!) good. But after reading this thread a few minutes ago, I went downstairs and plugged it into my GR-20 just to test it out on a piece of MIDI-driven gear. Some of the patches sound beautiful, and track slides and bends with no problem. Others have varying degrees of difficulty. Some -- like several of the piano-ish patches -- are impossible, but you'd expect that (one doesn't normally pitch-bend piano). I was able to test full octave "dive bombs" using the slide, though, and some patches held up just fine. I would occasionally get some glitching, but that was almost exclusively due to the fact that the lap steel is tuned several semi-tones off from standard EADGBE tuning, which is the tuning the GR-20 expects to see. This leads me to believe that the problem is not in the architecture itself but in the programming on the individual patches. I wish I could explore further to find exactly which parameters most affect this. However, the GR-20 is essentially a "preset" box with a lot of patches but limited tweak-ability (mostly only basic envelope and filter settings). Still, the very fact that some patches respond very well points to the possibility that the Roland boxes should handle whammy bar with little problem if programmed properly. As always, however, YMMV. --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 18:25:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 609AE3BE8F; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_1289240750104870" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 13:25:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? X-Originating-Ip: 12.232.29.12 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101108182550.2F49C77A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:25:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_1289240750104870 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Patrick,=A0What is your degree programme? I think as far as compositional aspects of digital looping, you will probably find little to nothing since looping isn't really a compositional aspect of composing. I studied for over 8 years, never heard a word about looping. We of course got the background of tape loops & such that composers used, but the approach was more reporting than, say theory & analysis, since it's rather hard to do do this with a piece that dosen't actually have any fixed form. If you play a Chopin etude, you will be able to play it roughly like someone else, including Chopin himself. Try to play a composer's symphony for falling plastic sheets & box of nails loop, however.............. I've also seen scores for this type of music but it was treated more as a curiosity in class rather than something we students would pour over & discuss. =A0=A0I'd be interested to read what you have so far & what references you've been using. ----- Original Message ----- From: "patrick dunn" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:37:58 -0000 Hi everyone - I'm doing a masters paper on various aspects of digital looping used in live performance. I'm particularly interested in the musical structures that result during live performance, the compositional process, styles used etc. Although there's quite a bit written about this on the web, I can find very little in the way of research papers from academic institutions, journals etc. =A0Does anyone know of anything? Or maybe other masters papers, dissertations etc. I'm not particularly looking at technology issues, except where they affect what results during the performance. =A0Thanks!=A0Patrick Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter[IMAGE] --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com --_----------=_1289240750104870 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello Patrick,
 
What is your degree programme?
I think as far as compositional aspects of digital looping, you will p= robably find little to nothing since looping isn't really a compositional a= spect of composing. I studied for over 8 years, never heard a word about lo= oping. We of course got the background of tape loops & such that compos= ers used, but the approach was more reporting than, say theory & analys= is, since it's rather hard to do do this with a piece that dosen't actually= have any fixed form. If you play a Chopin etude, you will be able to play = it roughly like someone else, including Chopin himself. Try to play a compo= ser's symphony for falling plastic sheets & box of nails loop, however.= .............
I've also seen scores for this type of music but it was treated more a= s a curiosity in class rather than something we students would pour over &a= mp; discuss.  
 
I'd be interested to read what you have so far & what references y= ou've been using.
----- Original Message -----
From: "patrick dunn"
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sub= ject: Academic/musicological research on looping technique?
Date: Mon, 8= Nov 2010 12:37:58 -0000

Hi everyone - I'm doing a masters paper on= various aspects of digital looping used in live performance. I'm particula= rly interested in the musical structures that result during live performanc= e, the compositional process, styles used etc. Although there's quite a bit= written about this on the web, I can find very little in the way of resear= ch papers from academic institutions, journals etc.
 
Does anyone know of anything? Or maybe oth= er masters papers, dissertations etc. I'= m not particularly looking at technology issues, except where they affect w= hat results during the performance.
 
Thanks!
 
Patrick



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter

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--_----------=_1289240750104870-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 18:31:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 540053BE93; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:31:57 +0100 Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender X-Originating-Ip: 12.232.29.12 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-06.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101108183157.8B1624FCE6@c-in3ws--03-06.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:31:58 +0000 (UTC) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: andy butler > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender > Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 08:53:14 +0000 >=20 >=20 > Mark Showalter wrote: > > Hello Andy, > > > > I was referring to the use of a whammy bar, if I understood the=20 > > post I was responding to. The GR-30 can be set per patch to use=20 > > either fixed pitches or to respond to bends, & > > it does a fairly good job of it. The problem with using a whammy=20 > > bar would be that all of the strings would be varying in pitch &=20 > > that would be a lot of info to try to track. >=20 > So that's a hypothetical? What's a hypothetical? > Or a known fault of the GR-30? ibid =20 > > I also think that there would be no way for the MIDI synth to=20 > > know which string was actually being played >=20 > Actually there is a way which is, afaik, is standard to midi guitar. > Don't know if the GR-30 does this, but would be a significant lack > if it didn't. > Each string is broadcast on a separate channel. > You need to use that mode if you're combining any sort > of pitch bend with any playing style that sounds more > than one note at a time. My point here was if you played a note on say the 2nd string of the guitar = & then whammy-ed away at it, just the fact that the strings are ALL being b= ent would problalbly cause problems. I'm aware of the way a MIDI p/u is des= igned to track each string, but a whammy would bend strings that aren't bei= ng played/used, which would probably cause some problems. Just thinking out= loud here.=20 > andy butler > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 18:39:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B31F3BE91; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E94eCgFDodrEz3ZOMO7RZRYWZKHdPbJUSd4fRptwSC8=; b=QS6BbV5cnLTcjZzv7Y1N9f1qiImt46Ve5iNmJZ416Q6Wv+5SKRc21AHknMcoCdXcGo qnRdwq6jZduXhq9alM9OPYSTnYGuHD31UNNofZBnfgbEaQcu9Cqw76N7fcTliCDr543X zeu3rOihIpZ/IdPs3v6H6cWqVIMP9CPCf07ws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=AA0q2rPjDfTq1yQ1RRtXLLwgAHwiRCq8z55u2TE9QebEvrsi2hGsBlClOd7D5nsRh6 19uhxqY5LMBIUQSSG7yH8BQwObqpB/kX+5uYoQNoYhBqbRRi5se7HIjA98CEczH52kIi sK17IcY+AjCesvZIRTs9mkn0/Zjh5Umzj4ZsI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 13:39:01 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pcHwlSkuYqPA7l8XZF95PrCBMzM Message-ID: Subject: Y'all in the Boston area? From: daniel To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367faf9d1fc7ab04948ef0a1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:39:03 +0000 (UTC) --0016367faf9d1fc7ab04948ef0a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey y'all! For those of you in the Boston area, I will be performing a free show at ZuZu in Cambridge, MA (part of the Middle East Club). It will be a solo ambient set. Also, if you happen to be in the market for a new 2x12 cabinet, I'm selling my '65 Bassman cab. It comes loaded, but *not* with '65 Bassman speakers. Details and pictures here: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/msg/2047480240.html www.ithinkwethink.org --0016367faf9d1fc7ab04948ef0a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey y'all!

For those of you in the Boston area, I will be perfo= rming a free show at ZuZu in Cambridge, MA (part of the Middle East Club). = It will be a solo ambient set.

Also, if you happen to be in the mar= ket for a new 2x12 cabinet, I'm selling my '65 Bassman cab. It come= s loaded, but not with '65 Bassman speakers.

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--0016367faf9d1fc7ab04948ef0a1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 18:40:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 983563BE94; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=94DiwEU5D4UD4RD51XgTMAoilMeXRf3P0OaUCyAZC+I=; b=RxTsMLM/2E2aPaWxzzaTqmS2LQnXwMKDWjXA1/7jZD+Q3pFfedjfuk8zFsNQJYx2AW 2FkZfqWnk7pynH4LnbU+AVwCzkpH4vx3NnLVrwqbaH+bln4B36GXGXqSGVnUS+z3lDYB tthsT18jKVeArnS8lOaeEnpphi+9ZASIXYdQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TpIjFF+SZkn1UdXA224HdP6lMTLzldY5JRfz5FoZu2NNfLfw0bce4rsYgjShaZ1bmH h3+YNSRZng0/lv9wbAzpyGrnJzTevLxApDPZTEUompUJOfV6R0gSMCerXiX7ZQUfpmGL iiqheiArTEFjs27RLzfkhSTRV27Bf7DElWDx4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <82F1F1BEA90944399DB48337C3279C8B@bob> References: <82F1F1BEA90944399DB48337C3279C8B@bob> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:40:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a8a86420f604948ef580 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:40:31 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a8a86420f604948ef580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Patrick, you can start from here: http://matthias.grob.org/pPhilo/MusConc.htm and here: http://matthias.grob.org/pMusEng/LoopDelayHist.htm Read the manual of the Loop Delay, you'll find interesting thoughts from Matthias Grob, the inventor of the first digital looping hadware. Drop him a line, maybe he can address you to interesting documents. -fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2010/11/8 patrick dunn > Hi everyone - I'm doing a masters paper on various aspects of digital > looping used in live performance. I'm particularly interested in the musical > structures that result during live performance, the compositional process, > styles used etc. Although there's quite a bit written about this on the web, > I can find very little in the way of research papers from academic > institutions, journals etc. > > Does anyone know of anything? Or maybe other masters papers, dissertations > etc. I'm not particularly looking at technology issues, except where they > affect what results during the performance. > > Thanks! > > Patrick > --001636c5a8a86420f604948ef580 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Patrick,
Read the manual of the Loop Delay, you'll find interesting thought= s from Matthias Grob, the inventor of the first digital looping hadware.
Drop him a line, maybe he can address you to interesting documents.
=A0
-fabio
=A0
=A0
=A0
2010/11/8 patrick dunn <patrick@networked-learning.c= om>
Hi everyone - I'm doing a masters = paper on various aspects of digital looping used in live performance. I'= ;m particularly interested in the musical structures that result during liv= e performance, the compositional process, styles used etc. Although there&#= 39;s quite a bit written about this on the web, I can find very little in t= he way of research papers from academic institutions, journals etc. =
=A0
Does anyone know of anything? Or maybe= other masters papers, dissertations etc. I'm not particularly looking at technology issues, except where = they affect what results during the performance.
=A0
Thanks!
=A0
Patrick

--001636c5a8a86420f604948ef580-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 19:16:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 185033BE8C; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SKXJGjjcI2/pA8C52FkM4zUVItXkWv3rtJrqIOn9hUY=; b=had7zSDyEhScwiLb8o/H8fRfQWnzU8D+ApJpceehGYFIJZycl0i0aAke+qON/Ig2zp Pa85Yefk4SJuG+f4PER33bQK5lCu+CGrY+5bumoLoRU/f7W2dmGEbuhw94qE0LibhM4d krdyKZ6JPUor3+RQTJytCrnRZpw+7VhJkAxg8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XadNs7F7FEqWDKRdR8NB6XES8YlUnCB7BSjkX+Md5w27queLuk3Y95TbxeaF75wzux 6PYRv0oni+/U9DN2b7HmpoccjZDdG6G0DfaIbr1mmj6Md1uLZ+wa/aT/c8OlH0qsEv8u wSduB+KjUt1IeuqZmNkYqE44H6wnBACQmlkDQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20101108182550.2F49C77A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> References: <20101108182550.2F49C77A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:16:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:16:25 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Mark Showalter wrote: > > I studied for over 8 years, never heard a word about looping. Maybe the particular term "looping" was not used but doesn't the sign :| mean something like "loop previous part once" ;-) As far as I understand composers like Steve Reich may write loops all over the score. I was talking to Elliott Sharp over one of his recent scores and he actually used the term "loops" to explain what he had written for the musicians to play (a bunch of bass clarinetists in this case). Something we talk a lot about on this board are the sound design related aspects of looping. However, not all composers - or teachers in composition - might agree that sound design is an important craft in composition. I would assume that a lot more is written about looping in the meaning of repeating patterns in composition compared to looping as a sound design tool/process. Try searching for partial synonyms to "looping" as for example "repeating", "cycle", "ostinato" etc etc. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 19:17:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95A3B3BEA4; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=A30fcxhVdG7AEuXQq4iObDHa8FWHvRyu6FkUGuUNTIQ=; b=MegYYHa6hiOLi+4Q0s/FKtPKmXe4QhjrVPEAL9qgan0DfX7OJWeg/I9MBoHM5jJjLl z7ntC0V/S6W2olNjG2Xg6WL4/Hu8yc1PCZVA6pZ2z0PjtoAlCLsFQqvBYBoS1I09t3Su IGxhJebkm4EIXGou74WATmttHdadAcfk2cBBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=s/8P6byYdogmakr6lYmFxsKtla3yqx3jBME+fQO8shTcaLmUTceOns51dmIUvwSDmI sQ3ao6YRUlLDh2OqkWrCVZ2OgrrpbB659ESpk2uYPg92eHaOEy4ORENlyzImcoOnH0T6 lWX43YRQ/nhRbAGa2CWQ01g0SCIBVOnc4HGHA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <3B714FE2-B244-4197-A93C-5D6B59007BC6@baymoon.com> <8CD4D7EB4F7A1B5-146C-1A72@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:17:31 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YtAw4Rc8Sfu3TbbqagLLyEGiI-Y Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303bf7d6fade7004948f7ac2 Resent-Message-ID: <5zRYHB.A.NJE.jzE2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:17:55 +0000 (UTC) --20cf303bf7d6fade7004948f7ac2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I couldnt have said it better myself, only to add that MY point was to highlight the difference between an effect that retains the stereo image of a stereo signal and indeed processes it correctly IN stereo (as in true stereo reverbs etc) and those effects that ADD some stereo effect. Indeed reverb can add stereo to an otherwise mono signal, but in my case I was referring to 2 types of stereo in my signal. The stereo generated via effects in my signal chain (as guitar is mono therefor all stereo is generated) and then a stereo effect added to the MONO loops. I do NOT (anymore) try to use 2 EDP in stereo, or indeed the repeater, preferring to leave that kind of subtlety to the er.. subtle people.. Whereas me..? I like a good ole multi band pan!!! M On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:08 PM, wrote: > > << so everything SOUNDS stereo, just not real, proper stereo.>> > > > > could you explain this, i've never understood the difference.....tanks > > mucho! > > > When talking about reverb the term "true stereo" is mostly used. This > means that if you send a stereo signal into the reverb and this signal > contains a sound at one side of the stereo field the reverb is not > just playing back the room a little more on the side - even early > reflections are simulated earlier on the side where it is to appear > more close to the imaginary wall. > > But I guess that in this thread "true stereo" simply means sending a > stereo signal into a stereo process (here two parallel mono loopers > forming a stereo pair) rather than sending a tapped mono signal into > the stereo process. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf303bf7d6fade7004948f7ac2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I couldnt have said it better myself, only to add that MY point was to high= light the difference between an effect that retains the stereo image of a s= tereo signal and indeed processes it correctly IN stereo (as in true stereo= reverbs etc) and those effects that ADD some stereo effect.

Indeed reverb can add stereo to an otherwise mono signal, bu= t in my case I was=A0referring=A0to 2 types of stereo in my signal. The ste= reo generated via effects in my signal chain (as guitar is mono therefor al= l stereo is=A0generated) and then a stereo effect added to the MONO loops. = I do NOT (anymore) try to use 2 EDP in stereo, or indeed the repeater,=A0pr= eferring=A0to leave that kind of=A0subtlety=A0to the er.. subtle people..= =A0

Whereas me..? I like a good ole multi band pan!!!
=

M

On Mon, N= ov 8, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, N= ov 8, 2010 at 6:08 PM, =A0<nemoguit= t@aol.com> wrote:
> << so everything SOUNDS stereo, just not real, proper stereo.>= ;>
>
> could you explain this, i've never understood the difference.....t= anks
> mucho!


When talking about reverb the term "true stereo" is m= ostly used. This
means that if you send a stereo signal into the reverb and this signal
contains a sound at one side of the stereo field the reverb is not
just playing back the room a little more on the side - even early
reflections are simulated earlier on the side where it is to appear
more close to the imaginary wall.

But I guess that in this thread "true stereo" simply means sendin= g a
stereo signal into a stereo process (here two parallel mono loopers
forming a stereo pair) rather than sending a tapped mono signal into
the stereo process.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




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--20cf303bf7d6fade7004948f7ac2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 19:19:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC5DA3BEBA; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=1c/Po37dL7ORsTrkHguY+1GCvuuPJLi/kyiHJW05wVw=; b=Y6OwaF3YjYeYtvaWTS6qiBnrswiojfR8nBkfCkrueOuUlPMb7G62w9t3Azm7YZI7Co KhqnwXESG3f5+z/ph5kOuroeXT54r/9MFGy/vDTmOcczDD/fxhE4iabPFYBE8DloNJoA lbN/Own7GkZs5ZnALG7szELQ2AeiX06X50hwM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ZN9aMG6Sj2bGR/c19g/x8T0gmGGx7sGOV6AiPdKcMIybK/seJiogbAqqygqcuje9/1 6Sc5G8JzDuiI8YsJBhE6XHyfSIFnrHZhpkuWQCB1ltsGPReD69GtUknLeCEPxvsd6Pe2 7FUARbRvXuftb2tIlAyoJiSbEizkoGJiyoGeo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:19:00 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9qx9HcGGu_sOUyWNhSHaazl3czE Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Vocoder To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303bf7d647982404948f801c Resent-Message-ID: <2cBHwC.A.qNE.50E2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:19:21 +0000 (UTC) --20cf303bf7d647982404948f801c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW... Book on my Amazon wish list now... I used to have that Korg VC10 vocoder on the cover.. god-dame I sold alot of great stuff in the 80=B4s... shiiiit!!! M On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Charles Zwicky wrot= e: > > Excellent..!! My Grandfather worked for Bell Labs and was involved with > the original "Voder" > > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf303bf7d647982404948f801c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW... Book on my Amazon wish list now... I used to have that Korg VC10 voc= oder on the cover.. god-dame I sold alot of great stuff in the 80=B4s... sh= iiiit!!!

M

On Mon, Nov= 8, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:

Excellent..!! =A0My Grandfather worked for Bell Labs and was involved with = the original "Voder"



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http://albumcred= its.com/zmix




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--20cf303bf7d647982404948f801c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 19:47:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2474D3BE8F; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5D6E9D85-5671-4F7E-9862-B3BE39D60DD5@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--446699958 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 11:47:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:47:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--446699958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But you are not saying that you are in mono are you Bill...? Its not like a mono guitar going thru a mono effect to a mono looper to a mono amp? Yes thats what i was saying, for simplicity sake I run mono, though I run my fireworx in the individual channel inserts so any stereo effects sum to mono. I run my looperlative mono in the master effects loop but I will occasionally run additional aux outputs from the LP-1 to individual channel strips on the house mixer which would then allow me to pan those loop tracks from the main board. After looking at it closer, you could run the Dtar in true stereo if you don't use the master effects loop. You could simply take your outputs from the individual channel inserts and run those to your effects processor and looper. You would still have the benefits from the Dtars eq and could still run the master out put as well if you are sending to a house board, That way you could have stereo effects and loops as well as a dry mono signal that you could put in the center of the mix and hard pan the effects and loops. Bill --Apple-Mail-2--446699958 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But you are not saying that = you are in mono are you Bill...? 
Its not like a mono guitar = going thru a mono effect to a mono looper to a mono = amp?
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-2--446699958-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 19:52:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFEB63BE98; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=2ggoT+WCcdj7B/px3UlC5LxkO3S5N9W7YL8wazTL7dc=; b=avqgGyBRXxF1bFRpm9S6MMfBxWXJjiB0YmdJvol0qBiqCrPvE+AnjTIA7d3qK1MfU+ yyss7Zbzdfw/RLPnc4gGvQdAkptyVR4h8CsDV0A9pX1nV2YXgiYXNt+7zDeQ0nfsxLqI d6yVhhVwjlrmZ4VDpe02DmOI1hvvmrKdrqCsk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=rYXpOsyaCMolyO6lhAnQc8mpSSFlZTta7soaEmklw2JMuBmVra+ppOysFKgFgyQzak mauBB26g7FKq0XEITxv1RVeYngcl9R4Rd+haftpQnKoRIQ2oE5/VYqn/1YoyDKbfbp1x U/kIu7k3hF/mxg1FZbj8P/YmRuzH4cJV+DjX0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <5D6E9D85-5671-4F7E-9862-B3BE39D60DD5@baymoon.com> References: <5D6E9D85-5671-4F7E-9862-B3BE39D60DD5@baymoon.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:51:54 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JD2QmXW03zwf3mwfNkZ1BnaEKTE Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054abc504cba904948ff6c3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:52:17 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054abc504cba904948ff6c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeez... Well judging by your performance at Y2K-X you have the most stereo sounding mono I=B4ve ever heard... I could have sworn that your music was j= ust swirling around and around me, until I either had to lie down with my head on a cushion or dance.. I chose the latter... ;-)) Mark On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:47 PM, William Walker wrot= e: > But you are not saying that you are in mono are you Bill...? > Its not like a mono guitar going thru a mono effect to a mono looper to a > mono amp? > Yes thats what i was saying, for simplicity sake I run mono, though I r= un > my fireworx in the individual channel inserts so any stereo effects sum t= o > mono. I run my looperlative mono in the master effects loop but I will > occasionally run additional aux outputs from the LP-1 to individual chan= nel > strips on the house mixer which would then allow me to pan those loop tra= cks > from the main board. After looking at it closer, you could run the Dtar i= n > true stereo if you don't use the master effects loop. You could simply ta= ke > your outputs from the individual channel inserts and run those to your > effects processor and looper. You would still have the benefits from the > Dtars eq and could still run the master out put as well if you are sendin= g > to a house board, That way you could have stereo effects and loops as wel= l > as a dry mono signal that you could put in the center of the mix and hard > pan the effects and loops. > Bill > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054abc504cba904948ff6c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeez... Well=A0judging=A0by your performance at Y2K-X you have the most ste= reo sounding mono I=B4ve ever heard... I could have sworn that your music w= as just swirling around and around me,=A0until=A0I either had to lie down w= ith my head on a=A0cushion or dance.. I chose the latter...

;-))

Mark
=A0

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:47 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymo= on.com> wrote:
But you = are not saying that you are in mono are you Bill...?=A0
Its not like a mono guitar going thru a mono effect= to a mono looper to a mono amp?
=A0Yes thats what i was saying, for simplicity sake I ru= n mono, =A0though I run my fireworx in the individual channel inserts so an= y stereo effects sum to mono. I run my looperlative mono in the master effe= cts loop but I will occasionally run additional aux outputs from =A0the LP-= 1 to individual channel strips on the house mixer which would then allow me= to pan those loop tracks from the main board. After looking at it closer, = you could run the Dtar in true stereo if you don't use the master effec= ts loop. You could simply take your outputs from the individual channel ins= erts and run those to your effects processor and looper. You would still ha= ve the benefits from the Dtars eq and could still run the master out put as= well if you are sending to a house board, That way you could have stereo e= ffects and loops as well as a dry mono signal that you could put in the cen= ter of the mix and hard pan the effects and loops.
Bill



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--20cf3054abc504cba904948ff6c3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 20:34:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC54A3BE91; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TJsvxKEb7Y0vN/TAix8xpFvqkdOdtHrppAsuULvYkfg=; b=vaUONM0+Qz73RwL6AQVeo6qFb4R2JwZu4z5MtTIsG7WL2pkCFjl3sezdPQGul/ARA7 H5/NFnlD6MBP/e+zPNOPE80KhvCQmi0zwDrzSN/4JiW1mg+k0qs8Jpu+D3dbym1mTCf6 vTaTMztij6Wm9h2csS79RQTmGHp4DjiS0n8wI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jdVaGNPfTkCkLCm0o4FNEAqmexFTHGYnB/5L1GOnIqU4uUEOHL/fqvFSHEhHQQO+YA SKRAc2ZnLWQvltXUau6VNITmRjfZqdf4CZ6YnEBdT3DT3wTH3TIIFh7vNceH/7zhU/s2 3CkO0PKiRvrJeOn+Q6nBNXkazK0iIup/K/SH8= Message-ID: <4CD85EE0.2040405@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 21:34:40 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FRO vs. RADIOHEAD : STREET SPIRIT - The Wandering Madman - References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:34:45 +0000 (UTC) FRO DIDDLY schrieb: > howdy loopers! > > finally, a new video has been posted on youtube - enjoy! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVHr3gu9L0 Great stuff as usual - liked your stuff in the past but didn't know/had forgotten that "FRO DIDDLY" was actually TheWanderingMadman. Also a fitting tshirt in the video. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 21:21:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D6443BE94; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <02334554-C1A9-416E-B994-63D0AB685B33@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--441055882 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 13:21:12 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:21:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--441055882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill what would then be the advantage of using the D-tar to a small mini mixer like the compact Tapco blend which has 2 aux sends and returns? rack mounting perhaps? Louie Louie PS I'd take a closer look at those Tapco Blend's aux sends. One of the two is a monitor send placed before the channel level control, and the other is an FX send placed after the channel level , the FX send itself is a mono output. it will allow you to send out mono and return stereo but not preserve an incoming stereo signal. Because of the difference in where the two sends are placed I don't know if it would work to use both aux sends send to feed a stereo device or not put I assume it would. All of there manuals are available on line, or better yet send them an email as they would know better than I. I've thought in the past about getting a small mixer like this to mount next to my Dtar on my rack shelf, but I have yet to find one small enough that has at least one true stereo send. The smallest tapco can fit and has one mono effects send with a stereo return , the smallest mackie has no aux sends. Both those mixers can fit in a half rack space but require two rack spaces of hiegth clearance at least. I'm wasn't intending to diss stereo, I love stereo and prefer it, but I have weened myself of the need for it to simplify my set up and mixing needs and its easier when I'm not granted the luxury of stereo monitors and a stereo house. Even when doing private gigs, where I bring two powered speakers, I end up aiming one at me and one at the audience, so imagine how well wide panning of loops or stereo delays sound like in that instance? So when i say sweet spot I mean the place in an ideal environment where I can hear everything in balance. At Y2K10 we did have a stereo system, and ironically because for speed and simplicity I opted to stay mono, I was only coming out one side of the mains apparantly, as the artists preceeding me had been stereo panned hard left and hard right, and the person mixing was overdo for a break and fogot to pan me center:-) Guano occurs! Bill --Apple-Mail-3--441055882 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill what would then be the = advantage of using the D-tar to a small mini mixer like the compact = Tapco blend which has 2 aux sends and returns? rack mounting = perhaps?

Louie Louie = PS
 I'd take a closer look at those Tapco = Blend's aux sends. One of the two is a monitor send placed = before the channel level control, and the other is an FX send placed = after the channel level , the FX send itself is a mono output. it will = allow you to send out mono and return stereo but not preserve an = incoming stereo signal. Because of the difference in where the two sends = are placed I don't know  if it would work to use both aux sends = send to feed a stereo device or not put I assume it would. All of there = manuals are available on line, or better yet send them an email as they = would know better than I. I've thought in the past about getting a small = mixer like this to mount next to my Dtar on my rack shelf, but I have = yet to find one small enough that has at least one true stereo send. The = smallest tapco can fit  and has one mono effects send with a stereo = return , the smallest mackie has no aux sends.  Both those mixers = can fit in a half rack space but require two rack spaces of  hiegth = clearance at least. I'm wasn't intending to diss stereo, I love stereo = and prefer it,  but I have weened myself of the need for it to = simplify my set up and mixing needs and its easier when  I'm not = granted the luxury of stereo monitors and a stereo house. Even when = doing private gigs, where I bring two powered speakers, I end up aiming = one at me and one at the audience, so imagine how well wide panning of = loops or stereo delays sound like in that instance?  So when i say = sweet spot I mean the place in an ideal environment where I can hear = everything in balance. At  Y2K10 we did have a stereo system, and = ironically because for speed and simplicity I opted to stay mono, I was = only  coming out one side of the mains apparantly, as the artists = preceeding me had been stereo panned hard left and hard right, and the = person mixing was overdo for a break and fogot to pan me center:-) =  Guano occurs!
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-3--441055882-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 8 21:46:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A0693BE91; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=GhSRJjDjgI00KmU8NG1QFinAWL4JGpmcOcrhOdljq3M=; b=S0x19F63mSpURhv8bzsU6ii4EQ53qgUH8MrhHmOxAWqzDKqiGmza5eaPh/Q0d8T6Z1 4ucaa6CESXueidnSJs+FjJ586jub5u0IPKrcsCfcuVwT9yyjBGOokAIsBSI1Df4ZrG8t hnCgfXrQNTGibJD1+svTvZLJSz30dFaP0mTqo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=FfWMpk+UV7e0jHFOc3tE3ouE50+Wsrr5HSQ9XGBDdWrdRVPNQV9ggFAXEMXBD7/00f CxNZStMbap+pw1At0/hE0rzc1O6Yi+ed6ZIAKKU8Wpfn/K3KbYvn4aMNR5A/wMw9+K6Y OILy+g38xB8QgJaVvcSElt8CaEVvUc/vWuvd0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:46:32 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CAu4AthwAMftrEZRh5z677wVJq8 Message-ID: Subject: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d3e72f49c470494918fd0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:46:54 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301d3e72f49c470494918fd0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable By the way Bill, Ive been meaning to ask you about how you do a little trick Ive seen you do a few times, once live, maybe once in your studio room and once on YouTube.= . Thats to near enough start a whole track with a couple of sus replace bleeps.. but on a specific beat, in a loop that is basically silent. Did I explain this well enough. I could understand if you first made a sneaking silent loop then biiped a couple of quant replaces in, but how do you ensure its on the beat you want if the loop is silent, or... don=B4t you? is it random? Or what...? spill t= he beans my friend... m --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf301d3e72f49c470494918fd0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable By the way Bill,

Ive been meaning to ask you about how y= ou do a little trick Ive seen you do a few times, once live, maybe once in = your studio room and once on YouTube.. Thats to near enough start a whole t= rack with a couple of sus replace bleeps.. but on a specific beat, in a loo= p that is basically silent. Did I explain this well enough.

I could understand if you first made a sneaking silent = loop then biiped a couple of quant replaces in, but how do you ensure its o= n the beat you want if the loop is silent, or... don=B4t you? is it random?= Or what...? spill the beans my friend...

--20cf301d3e72f49c470494918fd0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 00:02:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11F6E3BE91; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 00:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=scvK//U62i6HeYdnsWaeGF7juV5BxYO6jlttUCBKCcs=; b=MtPb7+9KOdpuIfRWyl1iKJOVH17yxCN9iCHxNu6lI3vzyW98t5/8EIbcxROHGseS2d 0unnCyiefiJg3u+2Ym5X7NvzHe8aig4pjQJ2Koa2Y1c/AdBCPAs56uWmys3cUcULkl4D A4pWWEMgdKwlOVrF6gbIwiXiaPOQm4okk54lc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=REskuMGJyV8Unr3Ih7cyg8KTemgL9BFtxjBczIGdcMunR4hUlXtiRU/Civ3aHlprxb O3Ovhs1ak9gC6OrgZ6ZiFSlg5MJgpyekjzQKo9hzFEd/qE0OwH5A5fGAlpkl7xivGYa0 4hZKQh3x9FGMC/ptiK13a+XpupFf8iupYs0V8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <02334554-C1A9-416E-B994-63D0AB685B33@baymoon.com> References: <02334554-C1A9-416E-B994-63D0AB685B33@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 01:02:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar solstice effects loop From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a91a2a7eaa04949375c6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 00:02:35 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a91a2a7eaa04949375c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok,this probaly explains why when i tried the Digitech on the Aux sends of the Tapco and returned the outs to 2 channels panned hard i could still not hear the stereo panorama that i hear straight into the Digitech stereo looper.Nevertheless im happy with it and im surprise of how good it sounds,i thought tapco would be the cheapy version of mackie and wasnt expecing much. I can see why the D-tar can be useful to ou though,ive gone really simple lately to economize on space and setup time but will play with my EDPs once i get the damn Sofstep sorted out, that thing is frustrating buggy at the moment and everyone is going nuts Your set sounded sweet as if u were in stereo man! Luis On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:21 PM, William Walker wrote: > *Bill what would then be the advantage of using the D-tar to a small mini > mixer like the compact Tapco blend which has 2 aux sends and returns? rack > mounting perhaps?* > * > * > ***Louie Louie PS* > * I'd take a closer look at those Tapco Blend'**s aux sends. One of the > two is a monitor send placed before the channel level control, and the other > is an FX send placed after the channel level , the FX send itself is a mono > output. it will allow you to send out mono and return stereo but not > preserve an incoming stereo signal. Because of the difference in where the > two sends are placed I don't know if it would work to use both aux sends > send to feed a stereo device or not put I assume it would. All of there > manuals are available on line, or better yet send them an email as they > would know better than I. I've thought in the past about getting a small > mixer like this to mount next to my Dtar on my rack shelf, but I have yet to > find one small enough that has at least one true stereo send. The smallest > tapco can fit and has one mono effects send with a stereo return , the > smallest mackie has no aux sends. Both those mixers can fit in a half rack > space but require two rack spaces of hiegth clearance at least. I'm wasn't > intending to diss stereo, I love stereo and prefer it, but I have weened > myself of the need for it to simplify my set up and mixing needs and its > easier when I'm not granted the luxury of stereo monitors and a stereo > house. Even when doing private gigs, where I bring two powered speakers, I > end up aiming one at me and one at the audience, so imagine how well wide > panning of loops or stereo delays sound like in that instance? So when i > say sweet spot I mean the place in an ideal environment where I can hear > everything in balance. At Y2K10 we did have a stereo system, and ironically > because for speed and simplicity I opted to stay mono, I was only coming > out one side of the mains apparantly, as the artists preceeding me had been > stereo panned hard left and hard right, and the person mixing was overdo for > a break and fogot to pan me center:-) Guano occurs!* > * Bill* > --001636c5a91a2a7eaa04949375c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ok,this probaly explains why when i tried the Digitech on the Aux send= s of the Tapco and=A0returned the outs to 2 channels panned hard =A0i could= still=A0not hear the stereo panorama that i hear straight into the Digitec= h stereo looper.Nevertheless im happy with it and im surprise of how good i= t sounds,i thought tapco would be the cheapy version of mackie and wasnt ex= pecing much.
I can see why the D-tar can be useful to ou though,ive gone really sim= ple lately to economize on space and setup time=A0but will play with my EDP= s once i get the damn Sofstep sorted out, that thing is frustrating buggy a= t the moment and everyone is going nuts
Your set sounded sweet as if u were in stereo man!
=A0
Luis
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:21 PM, William Walker = <billwalker@= baymoon.com> wrote:
Bill what would then be the advantage of using the D-tar to a small m= ini mixer like the compact Tapco blend which has 2 aux sends and returns? r= ack mounting perhaps?=20

Louie Louie PS
=A0I'd take a closer look= at those Tapco Blend's aux sends. One of the two is a monitor send placed befor= e the channel level control, and the other is an FX send placed after the c= hannel level , the FX send itself is a mono output. it will allow you to se= nd out mono and return stereo but not preserve an incoming stereo signal. B= ecause of the difference in where the two sends are placed I don't know= =A0if it would work to use both aux sends send to feed a stereo device or = not put I assume it would. All of there manuals are available on line, or b= etter yet send them an email as they would know better than I. I've tho= ught in the past about getting a small mixer like this to mount next to my = Dtar on my rack shelf, but I have yet to find one small enough that has at = least one true stereo send. The smallest tapco can fit =A0and has one mono = effects send with a stereo return , the smallest mackie has no aux sends. = =A0Both those mixers can fit in a half rack space but require two rack spac= es of =A0hiegth clearance at least. I'm wasn't intending to diss st= ereo, I love stereo and prefer it, =A0but I have weened myself of the need = for it to simplify my set up and mixing needs and its easier when =A0I'= m not granted the luxury of stereo monitors and a stereo house. Even when d= oing private gigs, where I bring two powered speakers, I end up aiming one = at me and one at the audience, so imagine how well wide panning of loops or= stereo delays sound like in that instance? =A0So when i say sweet spot I m= ean the place in an ideal environment where I can hear everything in balanc= e. At =A0Y2K10 we did have a stereo system, and ironically because for spee= d and simplicity I opted to stay mono, I was only =A0coming out one side of= the mains apparantly, as the artists preceeding me had been stereo panned = hard left and hard right, and the person mixing was overdo for a break and = fogot to pan me center:-) =A0Guano occurs!
=A0Bill

--001636c5a91a2a7eaa04949375c6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 01:53:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60B023BE90; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 01:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:53:29 +0100 Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? X-Originating-Ip: 98.180.40.193 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101109015329.E091A160221@c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 01:53:31 +0000 (UTC) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Per Boysen > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:16:24 +0100 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Mark Showalter > wrote: > > > > I studied for over 8 years, never heard a word about looping. >=20 >=20 > Maybe the particular term "looping" was not used but doesn't the sign > :| mean something like "loop previous part once" ;-)=20 No, it does not mean "loop", it is a repeat sign & although it has some sim= ilarity to a loop, it is in reality very different. A loop is a recording t= hat is repeated whereas a musician cannot exactly repeat a part no matter h= ow much he or she might want to. Also keep in mind that symbol is normally = used to indicate a repeat of a section of music, say an 8 or 16 bar phrase,= not a single bit of music. To use it for a single measure or 2 is not trad= itional & would quite frankly look a bit silly. A closer symbol would be so= mething like *//* which is a "repeat" whatever came before, often used for = drums or a simple rhythm part, but again, it does not mean you get the exac= t same bit played repeatedly. "Looping", the way it is used here, is very d= efinitely the idea of a recorded part that gets played over & over again. I= t is a technique of electronics, not performance, which is what my point re= ally is. =20 As far as I > understand composers like Steve Reich may write loops all over the > score. I was talking to Elliott Sharp over one of his recent scores > and he actually used the term "loops" to explain what he had written > for the musicians to play (a bunch of bass clarinetists in this case). No idea since I've never seen one of their scores & had the chance to liste= n to the piece.=20 =20 > Something we talk a lot about on this board are the sound design > related aspects of looping. However, not all composers - or teachers > in composition - might agree that sound design is an important craft > in composition. If you mean sound design in terms of electronics, I completely agree since = a theory & composition class is not really where such things would be studi= ed. Teachers would leave that to the studio electronics department. They di= d in my school & I suspect that is still the practice.=20 I would assume that a lot more is written about > looping in the meaning of repeating patterns in composition compared > to looping as a sound design tool/process. Try searching for partial > synonyms to "looping" as for example "repeating", "cycle", "ostinato" > etc etc. I think the point is still that we're using the word "loop" to mean by elec= tronic means, not in performance by an actual musician. Also, keep in mind = that "loop" can mean something that goes on for as long as the power lasts,= something a human being simply cannot do. > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 02:55:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DB353BE90; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1773 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:55:11 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: UqvA1f0050ASqTN0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:55:09 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? In-Reply-To: <20101109015329.E091A160221@c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotuslive.co m> References: <20101109015329.E091A160221@c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotuslive.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20101109025511.1F3A73BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Can you elaborate on how looping is a technique of electronics and not performance? At 2010.11.08 05:53 PM, Mark Showalter wrote: >part, but again, it does not mean you get the exact same bit played >repeatedly. "Looping", the way it is used here, is very definitely >the idea of a recorded part that gets played over & over again. It >is a technique of electronics, not performance, which is what my >point really is. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 02:56:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7A3B3BE92; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: UqRe1f0010ASqTN0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:13:54 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: $280 Midi Guitar Coming from Fender Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20101108183157.8B1624FCE6@c-in3ws--03-06.sv2.lotuslive.com > References: <20101108183157.8B1624FCE6@c-in3ws--03-06.sv2.lotuslive.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20101109025634.877A53BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2cNQqC.A.9fG.ihL2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:56:34 +0000 (UTC) At 2010.11.08 10:31 AM, Mark Showalter wrote: > > Mark Showalter wrote: > > > Hello Andy, > > > > > > I was referring to the use of a whammy bar, if I understood the > > > post I was responding to. The GR-30 can be set per patch to use > > > either fixed pitches or to respond to bends, & > > > it does a fairly good job of it. The problem with using a whammy > > > bar would be that all of the strings would be varying in pitch & > > > that would be a lot of info to try to track. > > > > So that's a hypothetical? > >What's a hypothetical? He was wondering if you were speaking from experience or just postulating. > > Or a known fault of the GR-30? > >ibid He was asking if you were specifically referring to a bug in the implementation of the GR-30 that has been reported elsewhere (known). >Just thinking out loud here. And that answers his questions. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 02:59:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6675E3BE94; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1011080182 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-11-08_13:2010-11-08,2010-11-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Message-id: <080562A536804EAE8ADEDA8113CC4CB4@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20101109015329.E091A160221@c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotuslive.com> <20101109025511.1F3A73BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:58:09 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:59:16 +0000 (UTC) It's a valid question if you're aware of Steve Reich's work. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Echevarria" To: Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > Can you elaborate on how looping is a technique of electronics and > not performance? > > > At 2010.11.08 05:53 PM, Mark Showalter wrote: >>part, but again, it does not mean you get the exact same bit played >>repeatedly. "Looping", the way it is used here, is very definitely >>the idea of a recorded part that gets played over & over again. It >>is a technique of electronics, not performance, which is what my >>point really is. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 09:07:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1695B3BE8F; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <23693069.1343931289293623071.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 10:07:03 +0100 (CET) From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: Massimo Liverani To: Subject: R: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_121856_13918702.1289293623071" X-SenderIP: 85.47.237.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:07:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_121856_13918702.1289293623071 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very interesting! thanks Fabio! ----Messaggio originale---- Da: eterogenus@gmail.com Data: 08/11/2010 19.40 A: Ogg: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? Hi Patrick, you can start from here: http://matthias.grob.org/pPhilo/MusConc.htm and here: http://matthias.grob.org/pMusEng/LoopDelayHist.htm Read the manual of the Loop Delay, you'll find interesting thoughts from Matthias Grob, the inventor of the first digital looping hadware. Drop him a line, maybe he can address you to interesting documents. -fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2010/11/8 patrick dunn Hi everyone - I'm doing a masters paper on various aspects of digital looping used in live performance. I'm particularly interested in the musical structures that result during live performance, the compositional process, styles used etc. Although there's quite a bit written about this on the web, I can find very little in the way of research papers from academic institutions, journals etc. Does anyone know of anything? Or maybe other masters papers, dissertations etc. I'm not particularly looking at technology issues, except where they affect what results during the performance. Thanks! Patrick ------=_Part_121856_13918702.1289293623071 Content-Type: text/html;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Very interesting! thanks Fabio!

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Ogg: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique?

Hi Patrick,
Read the manual of the Loop Delay, you'll find interesting thoughts from Matthias Grob, the inventor of the first digital looping hadware.
Drop him a line, maybe he can address you to interesting documents.
 
-fabio
 
 
 
2010/11/8 patrick dunn <patrick@networked-learning.com>
Hi everyone - I'm doing a masters paper on various aspects of digital looping used in live performance. I'm particularly interested in the musical structures that result during live performance, the compositional process, styles used etc. Although there's quite a bit written about this on the web, I can find very little in the way of research papers from academic institutions, journals etc.
 
Does anyone know of anything? Or maybe other masters papers, dissertations etc. I'm not particularly looking at technology issues, except where they affect what results during the performance.
 
Thanks!
 
Patrick



------=_Part_121856_13918702.1289293623071-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 12:25:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C86DC3BE90; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=6vNNQ+/n7fcqG16eW4aNHtgA2jcNhYdv6itUkFdruuU=; b=a1CoBWV0yRxxoyAMO/+pXak61eqkL6ypWz9zKP4P1wr8xnK3JGJK4OXTAdVN9q53OO c620f1temxRd6aDL6flPeaSTU8gqeV4TRPtLgLijeKWaULXNntEq5B2rHM4xFJlw2o0K o8XchrJoVYYyJ2sezz+mL8LaAW7lQT2h4eaoc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=OvPLJ++I5Y6UHYk0EQm1pbhQtn+PCLvyW7KuWr/5pxQOxryb9o00p6/bVTg7Mz+tA1 4kyP+NdkvonftBxT5b3pfwm+PnnLM/7m5aPySnyaWnllSWYzQ+54MBZUrEu9BlzRc8vN LHi4P2fL0LzHMRC6ptG4AhmeQLNMNnN4oODpM= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: OT: was $280 Midi Guitar (andy's trick) + is Stringport better then AX50 From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <4CD6765A.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 04:29:23 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <84EA533C-27D6-470C-8989-25BFA1BECFF5@gmail.com> References: <20101106220930.A2BC815F021@c-in3ws--03-03.sv2.lotuslive.com> <4CD6765A.3080906@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi all. Very interesting. 2 questions for the collective: 1) Regarding Andy's Trick > The midi converter has to be set to send Midi pitch bend > (which can be switched off), > and then the amount of midi pitch bend has to be matched between the > midi converter and the synth that's being driven. Anyone know how to find this setting in the the AX50 software? 2) Is Stringport really better then the AX50? Does it track better even = with regular midi plugins rather then their software? Is it more = processor intensive then the AX50, such that a laptop would start = exhibiting bad behavior with a bunch of plugins and effects open in = Live, etc.? Could really use a user report if anybody has experience = with these. Or if not both, then your review of the Stringport. Much thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 16:27:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E64583BE91; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-36--372300268 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:27:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:27:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-36--372300268 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I could understand if you first made a sneaking silent loop then =20 biiped a couple of quant replaces in, but how do you ensure its on the =20= beat you want if the loop is silent, or... don=B4t you? is it random? Or = =20 what...? spill the beans my friend... If i told you Mark, I'd have to kill you, you know that :-) Yes it =20 was a sneaky blank loop I created just prior to starting to play. Once =20= the the loop evolves in to a more tangible rhythm I start creating =20 complimentary parts around it and it doesn't really matter as long as =20= I'm using sync record to establish the first loop length, and setting =20= at least another loop track to the same length by choosing a new =20 track and arming it by hitting play stop first. Bill= --Apple-Mail-36--372300268 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I could understand if you first made a sneaking silent = loop then biiped a couple of quant replaces in, but how do you ensure = its on the beat you want if the loop is silent, or... don=B4t you? is it = random? Or what...? spill the beans my = friend...

 If i told you Mark, I'd have = to kill you, you know that :-) Yes it was a sneaky blank loop I created = just prior to starting to play. Once the the loop evolves in to a more = tangible rhythm I start creating complimentary parts around it and it = doesn't really matter as long as I'm using sync record to establish the = first loop length, and setting at least another loop  track to the = same length by choosing a new  track and arming it by hitting play = stop first.  
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-36--372300268-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 17:02:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38C1A3BE93; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 17:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 926242.7423.bm@omp1032.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1289322133; bh=pLFXtFPn7AoDgWcC3Kkzn6ICg25TwTW+V713D1i+568=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xeKIKVXP04rngOfO+FY9dn/u2Llvl/dco+sHaT/sbQ1nZRVfoxlgW514uEJZxO08pipxfcgJ5Yce0l19TzF+M+lo9BPzF5WZnVeP6SriztD57Vd0Qr8gGXYghFSBtOX8U6n/IqAn0/Tezldqlzy9wpAsRX4oUv5CFEvfbj/2Ww8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SedqM+e5p+sTYGIf+hYLADp03EOwY23igrjVOtSBhJNBGc1fc4Wv8uBldRmLHTSGjTt3KfCvWkpFf9RnKXzNMc4RNgxyI5uwu6kJ+wo77EUvgTjUBY99LUxfmbPYGnbLrAnvERimvXSVvxFzCHTS6lAaEol2vEsMcsz9HaSbMec=; Message-ID: <196286.29922.qm@web114517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sORpKJkVM1lqCO2lnfzhLmDMpRzUqQpsEmWaA7KkkTjyOqS .kY6lTsWx X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.284920 References: <20101109015329.E091A160221@c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotuslive.com> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:02:12 -0800 (PST) From: George Demarest Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20101109015329.E091A160221@c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotuslive.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-835575432-1289322132=:29922" Resent-Message-ID: <1dacgC.A.H1G.W6X2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 17:02:15 +0000 (UTC) --0-835575432-1289322132=:29922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Steve Reich once commented in an interview that Robert Fripp should pay him royalties for Frippertronics (ie, looping) so, make checks payable to... ________________________________ From: Mark Showalter To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 6:53:29 PM Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Per Boysen > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:16:24 +0100 > > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Mark Showalter > wrote: > > > > I studied for over 8 years, never heard a word about looping. > > > Maybe the particular term "looping" was not used but doesn't the sign > :| mean something like "loop previous part once" ;-) No, it does not mean "loop", it is a repeat sign & although it has some similarity to a loop, it is in reality very different. A loop is a recording that is repeated whereas a musician cannot exactly repeat a part no matter how much he or she might want to. Also keep in mind that symbol is normally used to indicate a repeat of a section of music, say an 8 or 16 bar phrase, not a single bit of music. To use it for a single measure or 2 is not traditional & would quite frankly look a bit silly. A closer symbol would be something like *//* which is a "repeat" whatever came before, often used for drums or a simple rhythm part, but again, it does not mean you get the exact same bit played repeatedly. "Looping", the way it is used here, is very definitely the idea of a recorded part that gets played over & over again. It is a technique of electronics, not performance, which is what my point really is. As far as I > understand composers like Steve Reich may write loops all over the > score. I was talking to Elliott Sharp over one of his recent scores > and he actually used the term "loops" to explain what he had written > for the musicians to play (a bunch of bass clarinetists in this case). No idea since I've never seen one of their scores & had the chance to listen to the piece. > Something we talk a lot about on this board are the sound design > related aspects of looping. However, not all composers - or teachers > in composition - might agree that sound design is an important craft > in composition. If you mean sound design in terms of electronics, I completely agree since a theory & composition class is not really where such things would be studied. Teachers would leave that to the studio electronics department. They did in my school & I suspect that is still the practice. I would assume that a lot more is written about > looping in the meaning of repeating patterns in composition compared > to looping as a sound design tool/process. Try searching for partial > synonyms to "looping" as for example "repeating", "cycle", "ostinato" > etc etc. I think the point is still that we're using the word "loop" to mean by electronic means, not in performance by an actual musician. Also, keep in mind that "loop" can mean something that goes on for as long as the power lasts, something a human being simply cannot do. > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com --0-835575432-1289322132=:29922 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Steve Reich once commented in an interview that Robert Fripp should pay him royalties
for Frippertronics (ie, looping)

so, make checks payable to...

From: Mark Showalter <folkstone57@operamail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 6:53:29 PM
Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique?


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique?
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:16:24 +0100
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Mark Showalter
> <folkstone57@operamail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I studied for over 8 years, never heard a word about looping.
>
>
> Maybe the particular term "looping" was not used but doesn't the sign
> :| mean something like "loop previous part once" ;-)

No, it does not mean "loop", it is a repeat sign & although it has some similarity to a loop, it is in reality very different. A loop is a recording that is repeated whereas a musician cannot exactly repeat a part no matter how much he or she might want to. Also keep in mind that symbol is normally used to indicate a repeat of a section of music, say an 8 or 16 bar phrase, not a single bit of music. To use it for a single measure or 2 is not traditional & would quite frankly look a bit silly. A closer symbol would be something like *//* which is a "repeat" whatever came before, often used for drums or a simple rhythm part, but again, it does not mean you get the exact same bit played repeatedly. "Looping", the way it is used here, is very definitely the idea of a recorded part that gets played over & over again. It is a technique of electronics, not performance, which is what my point really is.

As far as I
> understand composers like Steve Reich may write loops all over the
> score. I was talking to Elliott Sharp over one of his recent scores
> and he actually used the term "loops" to explain what he had written
> for the musicians to play (a bunch of bass clarinetists in this case).

No idea since I've never seen one of their scores & had the chance to listen to the piece.

> Something we talk a lot about on this board are the sound design
> related aspects of looping. However, not all composers - or teachers
> in composition - might agree that sound design is an important craft
> in composition.

If you mean sound design in terms of electronics, I completely agree since a theory & composition class is not really where such things would be studied. Teachers would leave that to the studio electronics department. They did in my school & I suspect that is still the practice.


I would assume that a lot more is written about
> looping in the meaning of repeating patterns in composition compared
> to looping as a sound design tool/process. Try searching for partial
> synonyms to "looping" as for example "repeating", "cycle", "ostinato"
> etc etc.

I think the point is still that we're using the word "loop" to mean by electronic means, not in performance by an actual musician. Also, keep in mind that "loop" can mean something that goes on for as long as the power lasts, something a human being simply cannot do.




> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub

>



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter



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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 17:03:26 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <7J4UBD.A.H-G.N_X2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 17:07:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-51--370121981 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I think we may all be in a bit of trouble then :) Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 9 Nov 2010, at 17:02, George Demarest wrote: > Steve Reich once commented in an interview that Robert Fripp should > pay him royalties > for Frippertronics (ie, looping) > > so, make checks payable to... > > From: Mark Showalter > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 6:53:29 PM > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Per Boysen > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:16:24 +0100 > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Mark Showalter > > wrote: > > > > > > I studied for over 8 years, never heard a word about looping. > > > > > > Maybe the particular term "looping" was not used but doesn't the > sign > > :| mean something like "loop previous part once" ;-) > > No, it does not mean "loop", it is a repeat sign & although it has > some similarity to a loop, it is in reality very different. A loop > is a recording that is repeated whereas a musician cannot exactly > repeat a part no matter how much he or she might want to. Also keep > in mind that symbol is normally used to indicate a repeat of a > section of music, say an 8 or 16 bar phrase, not a single bit of > music. To use it for a single measure or 2 is not traditional & > would quite frankly look a bit silly. A closer symbol would be > something like *//* which is a "repeat" whatever came before, often > used for drums or a simple rhythm part, but again, it does not mean > you get the exact same bit played repeatedly. "Looping", the way it > is used here, is very definitely the idea of a recorded part that > gets played over & over again. It is a technique of electronics, > not performance, which is what my point really is. > > As far as I > > understand composers like Steve Reich may write loops all over the > > score. I was talking to Elliott Sharp over one of his recent scores > > and he actually used the term "loops" to explain what he had written > > for the musicians to play (a bunch of bass clarinetists in this > case). > > No idea since I've never seen one of their scores & had the chance > to listen to the piece. > > > Something we talk a lot about on this board are the sound design > > related aspects of looping. However, not all composers - or teachers > > in composition - might agree that sound design is an important craft > > in composition. > > If you mean sound design in terms of electronics, I completely > agree since a theory & composition class is not really where such > things would be studied. Teachers would leave that to the studio > electronics department. They did in my school & I suspect that is > still the practice. > > > I would assume that a lot more is written about > > looping in the meaning of repeating patterns in composition compared > > to looping as a sound design tool/process. Try searching for partial > > synonyms to "looping" as for example "repeating", "cycle", > "ostinato" > > etc etc. > > I think the point is still that we're using the word "loop" to mean > by electronic means, not in performance by an actual musician. > Also, keep in mind that "loop" can mean something that goes on for > as long as the power lasts, something a human being simply cannot do. > > > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > > > > Mark Showalter > Minden Jot! > > myspace.com/folkstone57 > http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > --Apple-Mail-51--370121981 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII I think we may all be in a bit of trouble then :)

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 9 Nov 2010, = at 17:02, George Demarest wrote:

Steve Reich once commented in an = interview that Robert Fripp should pay him royalties
for Frippertronics (ie, looping)

so, make = checks payable to...

From: Mark Showalter <folkstone57@operamail.com>= ;
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Mon, = November 8, 2010 6:53:29 PM
 Re: Academic/musicological = research on looping technique?


> ----- Original = Message -----
> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> = To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research = on looping technique?
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:16:24 = +0100
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 8, = 2010 at 7:25 PM, Mark Showalter
> <folkstone57@operamail.com>= ; wrote:
> >
> > I studied for over 8 years, never = heard a word about looping.
> 
> 
> Maybe the = particular term "looping" was not used but doesn't the sign
> :| = mean something like "loop previous part once" ;-) 

No, it does not = mean "loop", it is a repeat sign & although it has some similarity = to a loop, it is in reality very different. A loop is a recording that = is repeated whereas a musician cannot exactly repeat a part no matter = how much he or she might want to. Also keep in mind that symbol is = normally used to indicate a repeat of a section of music, say an 8 or 16 = bar phrase, not a single bit of music. To use it for a single measure or = 2 is not traditional & would quite frankly look a bit silly. A = closer symbol would be something like *//* which is a "repeat" whatever = came before, often used for drums or a simple rhythm part, but again, it = does not mean you get the exact same bit played repeatedly. "Looping", = the way it is used here, is very definitely the idea of a recorded part = that gets played over & over again. It is a technique of = electronics, not performance, which is what my point really = is.

As far as I
> understand composers like Steve Reich may = write loops all over the
> score. I was talking to Elliott Sharp = over one of his recent scores
> and he actually used the term = "loops" to explain what he had written
> for the musicians to play = (a bunch of bass clarinetists in this case).

No idea since I've = never seen one of their scores & had the chance to listen to the = piece. 

> = Something we talk a lot about on this board are the sound design
> = related aspects of looping. However, not all composers - or = teachers
> in composition - might agree that sound design is an = important craft
> in composition.

If you mean sound design = in terms of electronics, I completely agree since a theory & = composition class is not really where such things would be studied. = Teachers would leave that to the studio electronics department. They did = in my school & I suspect that is still the practice. 


I would assume = that a lot more is written about
> looping in the meaning of = repeating patterns in composition compared
> to looping as a sound = design tool/process. Try searching for partial
> synonyms to = "looping" as for example "repeating", "cycle", "ostinato"
> etc = etc.

I think the point is still that we're using the word "loop" = to mean by electronic means, not in performance by an actual musician. = Also, keep in mind that "loop" can mean something that goes on for as = long as the power lasts, something a human being simply cannot = do.




> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per = Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music = hub

>



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
http://www.last.fm/music/= Mark+Showalter



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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 18:14:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ACE23BE97; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:14:13 +0100 Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? X-Originating-Ip: 12.232.29.12 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-04.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101109181413.463CF1F6904@c-in3ws--03-04.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9xhgmB.A.VU.29Y2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:14:14 +0000 (UTC) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Toby G > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:58:09 -0800 >=20 >=20 > It's a valid question if you're aware of Steve Reich's work. What is the question & who is being asked? > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Echevarria"=20 > > To: > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:55 PM > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? >=20 >=20 > > Can you elaborate on how looping is a technique of electronics=20 > > and not performance? If a performer electronically loops a phrase, say a 2 measure idea, the per= former is no longer performing that part. It exists as an electronic sample= that is just being repeated by a loop pedal or sampler or whatever electro= nic device is being employed. It differers in a compositional sense because= there is not a musician there reading a piece of music & playing the same = bit perfectly & repeatedly. Any variations on that bit must be accomplished= by electronic means, not by a performer i.e. the musician who originally p= layed it. Keep in mind we're talking about this in regards to music theory = & composition that one would learn in school. "Looping" in regards to how t= his emails is discussed does not get covered in a class on theory & composi= tion because it isn't relavent there. In a Music Studio programme, of cours= e, this is very common, all the way back to the use of tape loops in all ty= pes of music. > > At 2010.11.08 05:53 PM, Mark Showalter wrote: > >> part, but again, it does not mean you get the exact same bit=20 > >> played repeatedly. "Looping", the way it is used here, is very=20 > >> definitely the idea of a recorded part that gets played over &=20 > >> over again. It is a technique of electronics, not performance,=20 > >> which is what my point really is. > > > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 18:47:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8E433BE9E; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_90b0348f-ee67-4fbe-b065-18d7b3ecb66a_" X-Originating-IP: [217.44.16.55] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: was $280 Midi Guitar (andy's trick) + is Stringport better then AX50 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:47:15 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <84EA533C-27D6-470C-8989-25BFA1BECFF5@gmail.com> References: <20101106220930.A2BC815F021@c-in3ws--03-03.sv2.lotuslive.com> <4CD6765A.3080906@tiscali.co.uk>,<84EA533C-27D6-470C-8989-25BFA1BECFF5@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2010 18:47:15.0391 (UTC) FILETIME=[8725A4F0:01CB803E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:47:16 +0000 (UTC) --_90b0348f-ee67-4fbe-b065-18d7b3ecb66a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris=2C=20 My understanding of the stringport is that it takes the hex output of a gui= tar and the software itself calculates midi info for running midi plugins. = At the same time it uses the same raw info to run its specific suite of au= dio goodies. KMI are pretty specific re. the power of the=2C (Currently) Ma= cintosh that is required to work all this out. I'm not sure how much overhe= ad is available for other applications such as Ableton Live. My guess is th= at you'd need to spec up from the basic recommendations to allow for the ex= tra strain on the CPU for other apps.=20 but I'm only guessing =3B-) Peace G > Subject: OT: was $280 Midi Guitar (andy's trick) + is Stringport better t= hen AX50 > From: thedarrow@gmail.com > Date: Tue=2C 9 Nov 2010 04:29:23 -0800 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 >=20 > Hi all. Very interesting. 2 questions for the collective: >=20 > 1) Regarding Andy's Trick >=20 > > The midi converter has to be set to send Midi pitch bend > > (which can be switched off)=2C > > and then the amount of midi pitch bend has to be matched between the > > midi converter and the synth that's being driven. >=20 > Anyone know how to find this setting in the the AX50 software? >=20 >=20 > 2) Is Stringport really better then the AX50? Does it track better even w= ith regular midi plugins rather then their software? Is it more processor i= ntensive then the AX50=2C such that a laptop would start exhibiting bad beh= avior with a bunch of plugins and effects open in Live=2C etc.? Could reall= y use a user report if anybody has experience with these. Or if not both=2C= then your review of the Stringport. >=20 >=20 > Much thanks! >=20 = --_90b0348f-ee67-4fbe-b065-18d7b3ecb66a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris=2C
My understanding of the stringport is that it takes the hex= output of a guitar and the software itself calculates midi info for runnin= g midi plugins. At the same time it uses the same raw =3B info to run i= ts specific suite of audio goodies. KMI are pretty specific re. the power o= f the=2C (Currently) Macintosh that is required to work all this out. I'm n= ot sure how much overhead is available for other applications such as Ablet= on Live. My guess is that you'd need to spec up from the basic recommendati= ons to allow for the extra strain on the CPU for other apps.
but I'm on= ly guessing =3B-)

Peace

G

>=3B Subject: OT: was $280= Midi Guitar (andy's trick) + is Stringport better then AX50
>=3B From= : thedarrow@gmail.com
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 9 Nov 2010 04:29:23 -0800
&= gt=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B
>= =3B Hi all. Very interesting. 2 questions for the collective:
>=3B >=3B 1) Regarding Andy's Trick
>=3B
>=3B >=3B The midi conv= erter has to be set to send Midi pitch bend
>=3B >=3B (which can be = switched off)=2C
>=3B >=3B and then the amount of midi pitch bend ha= s to be matched between the
>=3B >=3B midi converter and the synth t= hat's being driven.
>=3B
>=3B Anyone know how to find this setti= ng in the the AX50 software?
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B 2) Is Stringpo= rt really better then the AX50? Does it track better even with regular midi= plugins rather then their software? Is it more processor intensive then th= e AX50=2C such that a laptop would start exhibiting bad behavior with a bun= ch of plugins and effects open in Live=2C etc.? Could really use a user rep= ort if anybody has experience with these. Or if not both=2C then your revie= w of the Stringport.
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Much thanks!
>=3B=
= --_90b0348f-ee67-4fbe-b065-18d7b3ecb66a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 18:54:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 486A43BE91; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jvO++sOWfHdCW/BXwnQZZV4mCHXanqLtoJidIq/WU0s=; b=JfW2ZlsKqPbRe2fwE1h5LunwnVMFp25aXK8N66d8BVMJ7aPnCdXy+7WqOJ6CFjSDav 4wcZzaCzpLtQQuJsSLjhN2fwEe9hsv/P37bMNdmd7mLeonvwHOMsN0JmyY+HUOnosRhX aYNXStjAcDI7gZI8QtcEQ01/+kS/z1+U2+7x8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gZ47v6z7x8qEyKUfZ/TC2SS2w3zGiuCFQL93OkOQHzNwQgMcqg1xOtoHPvsHcXnY1B DPu35NOQ8UemPJc1ekFNaP47Z4saLEf4RaqG0Y1mjeK7NlXzzHi9uDphpsZHHw+9+9FY AfqY9sDKD9f7ZtKBjJfL8ccD1y7U/Y5bCnGh0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 13:54:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: midi drum pattern editor question and a vst From: Tony K To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174beab68d14680494a346d4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:54:52 +0000 (UTC) --0015174beab68d14680494a346d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 HI all, two questions for today. 1. Can anybody recommend a decent free MIDI drum pattern editor that will import/export MID files? I've used DrumFlow, but I'm not entirely happy with it. I want something like MIDIDrums, but that will save to a MID file. 2. Anybody tried this: http://thepiz.org/plugins/?p=midiLooper -- -==-=-=- Tony --0015174beab68d14680494a346d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI all,

two questions for today.

1.=A0 Can anybody recommend = a decent free MIDI drum pattern editor that will import/export MID files?= =A0 I've used DrumFlow, but I'm not entirely happy with it.=A0 I wa= nt something like MIDIDrums, but that will save to a MID file.

2. Anybody tried this: http://thepiz.org/plugins/?p=3DmidiLooper

-= -
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
Tony
--0015174beab68d14680494a346d4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 19:50:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5430E3BE95; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_9XXeP21QlXn3LLEdeMZfNA)" X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1011090121 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-11-09_12:2010-11-09,2010-11-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 References: <20101109015329.E091A160221@c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotuslive.com> <196286.29922.qm@web114517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-reply-to: <196286.29922.qm@web114517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-id: <42DDFE99-5B5F-465F-8584-469AEA15631E@mac.com> Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) From: Daniel Berkman Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:48:50 -0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:50:01 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_9XXeP21QlXn3LLEdeMZfNA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable That's hillarious! Steve should pay Robert for such flattery! _____________________ Daniel Berkman | Colfax=20 Kora =E2=80=A2 Gravikord =E2=80=A2 Handsonic=20 Musician =E2=80=A2 Composer =E2=80=A2 Producer www.danielberkman.com Phone: (415) 254-4895 Email: danielberkman@mac.com On Nov 9, 2010, at 9:02 AM, George Demarest wrote: > Steve Reich once commented in an interview that Robert Fripp should pay hi= m royalties > for Frippertronics (ie, looping) >=20 > so, make checks payable to... >=20 > From: Mark Showalter > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 6:53:29 PM > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? >=20 >=20 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Per Boysen > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:16:24 +0100 > >=20 > >=20 > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Mark Showalter > > wrote: > > > > > > I studied for over 8 years, never heard a word about looping. > >=20 > >=20 > > Maybe the particular term "looping" was not used but doesn't the sign > > :| mean something like "loop previous part once" ;-)=20 >=20 > No, it does not mean "loop", it is a repeat sign & although it has some si= milarity to a loop, it is in reality very different. A loop is a recording t= hat is repeated whereas a musician cannot exactly repeat a part no matter ho= w much he or she might want to. Also keep in mind that symbol is normally us= ed to indicate a repeat of a section of music, say an 8 or 16 bar phrase, no= t a single bit of music. To use it for a single measure or 2 is not traditio= nal & would quite frankly look a bit silly. A closer symbol would be somethi= ng like *//* which is a "repeat" whatever came before, often used for drums o= r a simple rhythm part, but again, it does not mean you get the exact same b= it played repeatedly. "Looping", the way it is used here, is very definitely= the idea of a recorded part that gets played over & over again. It is a tec= hnique of electronics, not performance, which is what my point really is. >=20 > As far as I > > understand composers like Steve Reich may write loops all over the > > score. I was talking to Elliott Sharp over one of his recent scores > > and he actually used the term "loops" to explain what he had written > > for the musicians to play (a bunch of bass clarinetists in this case). >=20 > No idea since I've never seen one of their scores & had the chance to list= en to the piece.=20 >=20 > > Something we talk a lot about on this board are the sound design > > related aspects of looping. However, not all composers - or teachers > > in composition - might agree that sound design is an important craft > > in composition. >=20 > If you mean sound design in terms of electronics, I completely agree since= a theory & composition class is not really where such things would be studi= ed. Teachers would leave that to the studio electronics department. They did= in my school & I suspect that is still the practice.=20 >=20 >=20 > I would assume that a lot more is written about > > looping in the meaning of repeating patterns in composition compared > > to looping as a sound design tool/process. Try searching for partial > > synonyms to "looping" as for example "repeating", "cycle", "ostinato" > > etc etc. >=20 > I think the point is still that we're using the word "loop" to mean by ele= ctronic means, not in performance by an actual musician. Also, keep in mind t= hat "loop" can mean something that goes on for as long as the power lasts, s= omething a human being simply cannot do. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Greetings from Sweden > >=20 > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > Mark Showalter > Minden Jot! >=20 > myspace.com/folkstone57 > http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com >=20 --Boundary_(ID_9XXeP21QlXn3LLEdeMZfNA) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
That's hillarious! Steve should pay Rob= ert for such flattery!

_____________________

Daniel Berkman | Colfax 
Kora =E2=80=A2 Gravikord =E2=80= =A2 Handsonic 
Musician =E2=80=A2 Composer =E2=80=A2 Producer<= /span>
On Nov 9, 2010, at 9:02 AM, George Demarest <g_demarest@yahoo.com> wrote:

Steve Reich once commented in an interview th= at Robert Fripp should pay him royalties
for Frippertronics (ie, l= ooping)

so, make checks payable to...

From:= Mark Showalter <= folkstone57@operamail.com>
T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
Sent: Mo= n, November 8, 2010 6:53:29 PM
Subj= ect: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique?

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> To: <= a ymailto=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" href=3D"mailto:Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re:= Academic/musicological research on looping technique?
> Date: Mon, 8 N= ov 2010 20:16:24 +0100
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:25= PM, Mark Showalter
> <folkstone57@operamail.com> wrote:
> >
= > > I studied for over 8 years, never heard a word about looping.
&= gt;
>
> Maybe the particular term "looping" was not used but d= oesn't the sign
> :| mean something like "loop previous part once" ;-)=

No, it does not mean "loop", it is a repeat sign & although it has some similarity to a loop, it is in reality very different.= A loop is a recording that is repeated whereas a musician cannot exactly re= peat a part no matter how much he or she might want to. Also keep in mind th= at symbol is normally used to indicate a repeat of a section of music, say a= n 8 or 16 bar phrase, not a single bit of music. To use it for a single meas= ure or 2 is not traditional & would quite frankly look a bit silly. A cl= oser symbol would be something like *//* which is a "repeat" whatever came b= efore, often used for drums or a simple rhythm part, but again, it does not m= ean you get the exact same bit played repeatedly. "Looping", the way it is u= sed here, is very definitely the idea of a recorded part that gets played ov= er & over again. It is a technique of electronics, not performance, whic= h is what my point really is.

As far as I
> understand compos= ers like Steve Reich may write loops all over the
> score. I was talking to Elliott Sharp over one of his recent sc= ores
> and he actually used the term "loops" to explain what he had wr= itten
> for the musicians to play (a bunch of bass clarinetists in thi= s case).

No idea since I've never seen one of their scores & had t= he chance to listen to the piece.

> Something we talk a lot abou= t on this board are the sound design
> related aspects of looping. How= ever, not all composers - or teachers
> in composition - might agree t= hat sound design is an important craft
> in composition.

If you= mean sound design in terms of electronics, I completely agree since a theor= y & composition class is not really where such things would be studied. T= eachers would leave that to the studio electronics department. They did in m= y school & I suspect that is still the practice.


I would as= sume that a lot more is written about
> looping in the meaning of repeating patterns in composition compared
> to loo= ping as a sound design tool/process. Try searching for partial
> synon= yms to "looping" as for example "repeating", "cycle", "ostinato"
> etc= etc.

I think the point is still that we're using the word "loop" to m= ean by electronic means, not in performance by an actual musician. Also, kee= p in mind that "loop" can mean something that goes on for as long as the pow= er lasts, something a human being simply cannot do.




> G= reetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.= se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub

>


Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.c= om/folkstone57
http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter



--
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= --Boundary_(ID_9XXeP21QlXn3LLEdeMZfNA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 20:02:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07E343BE90; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1779 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 20:02:11 UTC X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on server03.clifford X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=00.1 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE=0.1 autolearn=disabled version=3.2.4 Message-ID: <20101109143228.28281ctexyup4x5w@www.wightman.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:32:28 -0500 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT: was $280 Midi Guitar (andy's trick) + is Stringport better then AX50 References: <20101106220930.A2BC815F021@c-in3ws--03-03.sv2.lotuslive.com> <4CD6765A.3080906@tiscali.co.uk>,<84EA533C-27D6-470C-8989-25BFA1BECFF5@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:02:11 +0000 (UTC) I would have to agree with Ted on this, you're not really comparing =20 the same equipment at all. I only know what I've read about =20 stringport, but my understanding is that it's transfering the hex =20 signal input so that you can process each string seperately. I do have =20 an AX 50 and use it all the time. It is a midi converter for soft =20 synth use, and it works really well at that. I have a hex signal =20 splitter that I can run every string into my motu and process each =20 string seperately with bidule, That would be more similar to the =20 stringport IMHO the primary difference being that the stringport comes =20 with it's own software suite. Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca Ontario, Canada Quoting Gareth Whittock : > > Hi Chris, > My understanding of the stringport is that it takes the hex output =20 > of a guitar and the software itself calculates midi info for running =20 > midi plugins. At the same time it uses the same raw info to run its =20 > specific suite of audio goodies. KMI are pretty specific re. the =20 > power of the, (Currently) Macintosh that is required to work all =20 > this out. I'm not sure how much overhead is available for other =20 > applications such as Ableton Live. My guess is that you'd need to =20 > spec up from the basic recommendations to allow for the extra strain =20 > on the CPU for other apps. > but I'm only guessing ;-) > > Peace > > G > >> Subject: OT: was $280 Midi Guitar (andy's trick) + is Stringport =20 >> better then AX50 >> From: thedarrow@gmail.com >> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 04:29:23 -0800 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> >> Hi all. Very interesting. 2 questions for the collective: >> >> 1) Regarding Andy's Trick >> >> > The midi converter has to be set to send Midi pitch bend >> > (which can be switched off), >> > and then the amount of midi pitch bend has to be matched between the >> > midi converter and the synth that's being driven. >> >> Anyone know how to find this setting in the the AX50 software? >> >> >> 2) Is Stringport really better then the AX50? Does it track better =20 >> even with regular midi plugins rather then their software? Is it =20 >> more processor intensive then the AX50, such that a laptop would =20 >> start exhibiting bad behavior with a bunch of plugins and effects =20 >> open in Live, etc.? Could really use a user report if anybody has =20 >> experience with these. Or if not both, then your review of the =20 >> Stringport. >> >> >> Much thanks! >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 20:05:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6DA43BE98; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FLRCpyJ/Ap6Z1XVpT+FKjbBZVqsoM0flzzVYR4BWPoc=; b=FcUk0MrRXG1EjKGiNeqRS8W/QiU/oNJ1ngHuV1bCwDL4ZqFKBKxj4dbf6DZxQJKqAJ X6wcNwQTuomfRbOV/70LtzOpGx2ojhjzoygvLwq1MaD8lqrdK3u3kAi5cqTv2mNQ49Mx UpVQqzPxetmbo5N6DT0DEJI1GzRJzv4sPMKds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UMwrjMPQUoCGNz59mnj+dkHe/Y2y9H+hzamy4CZUjyOYNjRtudNRE7a0n8go3k6nzf DbeTT6bsyAHun9r1THnobkm8ntmXoBT0IP6POGQnBYqiySQUCf8tr9lmkTItwS4opFRr KS+xesiNAd5bokmfrmWwCcRrnDU8cAKR2lZww= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:05:44 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502cd360e941b0494a444b6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:05:45 +0000 (UTC) --00504502cd360e941b0494a444b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 have you looked at all the stuff on the looper's delight page? there are lots of resources, articles, musings. whether it's "academic" i don't know. a few yrs ago (ok, it might be 7 or 8 yrs ago), there was a student (was he british? can't remember) who wrote an undergrad thesis on looping. i thought it was linked on the site, but i didn't see it. it was sort of a general overview of looping. there was also a paper on cassette looping...i thought it was linked, but i was looking fast.... there have been a few articles in guitar player over the last few yrs, again overviews... i guess the problem i see is: is it really a technique? i think of it more as a tool used for composing. the other problem, is since it's a tool (my definition), there isn't really a style. i mean you have the whole range of ambient folks to dance, glitch stuff, etc.(i mean most people probably don't know what a loop is, but they've heard drum loops in pop/dance stuff) you could look up all the old articles on: fripp, torn for guitar looping, but there is also terry riley from the 60s (tape loops, coming out of 60s minimalism) there was a really good interview w/ an early producer of hiphop/rap stuff in tape op a few yrs ago. he talked about the production using 1st samplers. and how it developed from manipulating tape cassettes. but the interesting thing is how he talked about how wonderful the 1st 1 sec sampler was and what they could do. and then he said at some pt, the next generation sampler came out and it had 3 sec, and how THAT changed everything....it was interesting, from a music pt of view. don't remember the name or what issue, it was a few yrs ago....(old brain and all)... this was probably no help. good luck. s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --00504502cd360e941b0494a444b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable have you looked at all the stuff on the looper's delight page? there ar= e lots of resources, articles, musings.
whether it's "academic&= quot; i don't know.

a few yrs ago (ok, it might be 7 or 8 yrs ag= o), there was a student (was he british? can't remember) who wrote an u= ndergrad thesis on looping.
i thought it was linked on the site, but i didn't see it. it was sort o= f a general overview of looping.

there was also a paper on cassette = looping...i thought it was linked, but i was looking fast....

there = have been a few articles in guitar player over the last few yrs, again over= views...

i guess the problem i see is: is it really a technique? i think of it m= ore as a tool used for composing.

the other problem, is since it'= ;s a tool (my definition), there isn't really a style. i mean you have = the whole range of ambient folks to dance, glitch stuff, etc.(i mean most p= eople probably don't know what a loop is, but they've heard drum lo= ops in pop/dance stuff)

you could look up all the old articles on: fripp, torn for guitar loopi= ng, but there is also terry riley from the 60s (tape loops, coming out of 6= 0s minimalism)

there was a really good interview w/ an early produce= r of hiphop/rap stuff in tape op a few yrs ago. he talked about the product= ion using 1st samplers.
and how it developed from manipulating tape cassettes. but the interesting = thing is how he talked about how wonderful the 1st 1 sec sampler was and wh= at they could do.
and then he said at some pt, the next generation sampl= er came out and it had 3 sec, and how THAT changed everything....it was int= eresting, from a music pt of view.
don't remember the name or what issue, it was a few yrs ago....(old bra= in and all)...

this was probably no help. good luck.
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen<= br> --00504502cd360e941b0494a444b6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 20:07:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC70B3BEA0; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.10 X-EN-IMPSID: V87i1f0070D2B7u0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 12:07:37 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? In-Reply-To: <20101109181413.463CF1F6904@c-in3ws--03-04.sv2.lotuslive.co m> References: <20101109181413.463CF1F6904@c-in3ws--03-04.sv2.lotuslive.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20101109200743.90C7C3BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:07:43 +0000 (UTC) At 2010.11.09 10:14 AM, Mark Showalter wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Toby G > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > > Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:58:09 -0800 > > > > > > It's a valid question if you're aware of Steve Reich's work. > >What is the question & who is being asked? The question is the one that you answered below. > > > Can you elaborate on how looping is a technique of electronics > > > and not performance? > >If a performer electronically loops a phrase, say a 2 measure idea, >the performer is no longer performing that part. It exists as an >electronic sample that is just being repeated by a loop pedal or >sampler or whatever electronic device is being employed. It >differers in a compositional sense because there is not a musician >there reading a piece of music & playing the same bit perfectly & >repeatedly. Any variations on that bit must be accomplished by >electronic means, not by a performer i.e. the musician who >originally played it. Keep in mind we're talking about this in >regards to music theory & composition that one would learn in >school. "Looping" in regards to how this emails is discussed does >not get covered in a class on theory & composition because it isn't >relavent there. In a Music Studio programme, of course, this is very >common, all the way back to the use of tape loops in all types of music. And with that kind of thinking, it will stay out of school! Someone comes to the list because he is writing a "paper on various aspects of digital looping used in live performance" - and you're suggesting that looping means something different in an academic environment than in the real world. Come to think of it, in general, that does seem to be a common complaint of academia. Looks like Patrick (author of OP) made a mistake venturing out of the academic environment. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 20:38:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C653D3BE95; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bf1b1225-9f87-4c95-bbf3-7e51dd691b93_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:38:07 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20101109181413.463CF1F6904@c-in3ws--03-04.sv2.lotuslive.com> References: <20101109181413.463CF1F6904@c-in3ws--03-04.sv2.lotuslive.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2010 20:38:06.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[03CF41F0:01CB804E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:38:08 +0000 (UTC) --_bf1b1225-9f87-4c95-bbf3-7e51dd691b93_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would NOT see looping as a "technique of electronics=2C not performance"= =2C the loop created will influence my improvisation (real time composing) = just as another musician plying a progression would. And as a loop performe= r a 2 measure loop WOULD be played=2C i decide to keep is static as long as= that makes sense=2C fell good or whatever=2C then I use the looper instrum= ent to alter the loop=2C feedback=2C inserts=2C reverse. The logic applys t= o both traditiionaly composed music as well as improvisation=2C the looper = is an new instruments that affects what the composer/improviser can do.. If i was composing for a looper musician i would in the written music write= down all loop manipulation just as i would write in scores what a violin w= ould play.=20 In this sense looping instrument would most defenitly influence composition= (or improvisation) since it IS a new instrument with unique capabilities..= . i my veiw at least.. =20 Regards=2C =20 Anders =20 > From: folkstone57@operamail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tue=2C 9 Nov 2010 19:14:13 +0100 > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? >=20 > If a performer electronically loops a phrase=2C say a 2 measure idea=2C t= he performer is no longer performing that part. It exists as an electronic = sample that is just being repeated by a loop pedal or sampler or whatever e= lectronic device is being employed. It differers in a compositional sense b= ecause there is not a musician there reading a piece of music & playing the= same bit perfectly & repeatedly. Any variations on that bit must be accomp= lished by electronic means=2C not by a performer i.e. the musician who orig= inally played it. Keep in mind we're talking about this in regards to music= theory & composition that one would learn in school. "Looping" in regards = to how this emails is discussed does not get covered in a class on theory &= composition because it isn't relavent there. In a Music Studio programme= =2C of course=2C this is very common=2C all the way back to the use of tape= loops in all types of music. >=20 > > > At 2010.11.08 05:53 PM=2C Mark Showalter wrote: > > >> part=2C but again=2C it does not mean you get the exact same bit=20 > > >> played repeatedly. "Looping"=2C the way it is used here=2C is very=20 > > >> definitely the idea of a recorded part that gets played over &=20 > > >> over again. It is a technique of electronics=2C not performance=2C=20 > > >> which is what my point really is. > > > >=20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > Mark Showalter > Minden Jot! >=20 > myspace.com/folkstone57 > http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster=2C safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com >=20 = --_bf1b1225-9f87-4c95-bbf3-7e51dd691b93_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would NOT see looping as a "technique of electronics=2C not perfor= mance"=2C the loop created will influence my improvisation (real time compo= sing) just as another musician plying a progression would. And as a loop pe= rformer a 2 measure loop WOULD be played=2C i decide to keep is static as l= ong =3Bas that makes sense=2C fell good or whatever=2C then I use the l= ooper instrument to alter the loop=2C feedback=2C inserts=2C reverse. The l= ogic applys to both traditiionaly composed music as well as improvisation= =2C the looper is an new instruments that affects what the composer/improvi= ser can do..
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= --_bf1b1225-9f87-4c95-bbf3-7e51dd691b93_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 21:13:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8DF73BE95; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 21:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 521519493/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.176.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.176.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvABALJH2UxV0rBB/2dsb2JhbAAHlB7NH4VKBI1X X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,175,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="521519493" Message-ID: <4CD9B972.4080804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 21:13:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <9sM-vC.A.gCF.hlb2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 21:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Bill's referring to a lot of Looperlative specific stuff here. In EDP land it's similar though. Replacing Quantised 8ths into an empty loop will eventually produce a nice rhythm to work with. It's kind of random, except that you make a conscious decision to stop modifying it once it gets good. It *is* possible to drop the 8th notes in accurately, but there's a special technique to be learned where you hit the footswitch just in advance of the beat. ...but to be honest, it's not worth the effort, just flailing around gets better results without the hassle. Of course, the Startpoint is unlikely to be in the right place, but if need be you'd just sync your second edp to it and things would work out just fine. If you need to re-sync it, then Mute>Multiply would do it. andy butler William Walker wrote: > I could understand if you first made a sneaking silent loop then biiped > a couple of quant replaces in, but how do you ensure its on the beat you > want if the loop is silent, or... don´t you? is it random? Or what...? > spill the beans my friend... > > If i told you Mark, I'd have to kill you, you know that :-) Yes it was > a sneaky blank loop I created just prior to starting to play. Once the > the loop evolves in to a more tangible rhythm I start creating > complimentary parts around it and it doesn't really matter as long as > I'm using sync record to establish the first loop length, and setting at > least another loop track to the same length by choosing a new track > and arming it by hitting play stop first. > Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 21:19:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15D823BE99; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 21:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jeBP9OF73blco9TwGbBKsbUqT/wqyT5jLVaUSO0427U=; b=LJkUWHmBRd6JPjzZnJm+fgdNXAM61EcJu0aiqRUulDeI70VCFb5aZkXJ58Oy0mW2tU IFsPr36nQmPX8ow7NU2Bk8Se6wMQKUadO+gtI13UGdVT7jQt67yqv/NyYkMqsk1mbQGw elofF6uRiIprXMHEn0GnJ3BpJmHeVnSkbrbUQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=D+pRTLmsqDAYtDu85D6bEYKAri5NSMkkrDIMpAHs5v0xiy6fz/PUEv/LKaQb1fL0W/ sDtnml655Imn9Y7F1y7JrjDwyEDFdN/sgaPNPkCcRwgiDMJIKT4u4nqXPiHuONyHWCiz QM9yjI9E/Ic69wg1Qt+MijrSt40M9SYH6WjjM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:19:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi drum pattern editor question and a vst From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d26cf9c653d0494a54c13 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 21:19:44 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d26cf9c653d0494a54c13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Are you a Mac or a PC? --0016364d26cf9c653d0494a54c13 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

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--0016364d26cf9c653d0494a54c13-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 21:21:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E7363BE93; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 21:21:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mN1LivLL2ZjJq2pG6nk56z0VBVs9GU5XgotsGQzmKbU=; b=R107WMTRmCiOH6rqNOI4CBW1SQA5bwV35vidzo5x9F8FnoqdGNb2skUkXrQsBgZlGC hCLnaLInA7gTZar5wJyqO2INO1+POOKiiB5z1QHsWBzWcIK3hrFDcdDueswHw8VOM17d 69udHvkYSu5tgwGD9GQzMgRFom3M5wuy7bx1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RagbtydolDcNla9V/EchmwZlTci+axUwTy8u5O6DHnigEz1Pkk3PcxllA4Nzi65qGC GN5UvpJyyyuFtEZRLEFIf9NVCms8UssUvM1PpVVdCwHjZXF3IkRUeyFR26IWwWBCoNgR seMgrcU8wqoOlECD7amUKL5lQwg/btlwuPjcw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:20:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi drum pattern editor question and a vst From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3d16328e2c0494a55135 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 21:21:00 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3d16328e2c0494a55135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 PC On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:19 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > Are you a Mac or a PC? > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0015174c3d16328e2c0494a55135 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PC

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--0015174c3d16328e2c0494a55135-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 21:38:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71C733BE9E; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 21:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 529978858/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.176.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.176.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvABAENO2UxV0rBB/2dsb2JhbAAHlB6XGrVZhUoEjVc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,175,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="529978858" Message-ID: <4CD9BF7E.4020509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 21:39:10 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? papers available References: <82F1F1BEA90944399DB48337C3279C8B@bob> <4CD80C74.9070200@tiscali.co.uk> <9C99483198B14F6F891132265AC82696@bob> In-Reply-To: <9C99483198B14F6F891132265AC82696@bob> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 21:38:52 +0000 (UTC) hi Patrick, There's a research paper by Darren Perry, written in 2008 at Dartington College of Arts. It has analysis of my piece "Ro-sham-bo" (on the LD3 compilation). (also he analyses an Andre Lafosse piece) http://www.darrenperry.com/ I have a copy on pdf, but don't know the usual etiquette for passing such stuff around. The was also another guy called Thomas Rutger who did an analysis of http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/mp3files/04-altitude.mp3 I'll send you his email offlist if you'd like it. Geoff Smith's illustrious paper is found here (odd place for it) http://www.loopersdelight.com/files/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=Tools_and_Utilities hope that helps andy butler ps the cd you ordered is on it's way + a freebie ...enjoy patrick dunn wrote: > > Fab - that's what I'm looking for. Any ideas where I can look for them? > > Patrick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 22:14:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E76B3BE95; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 22:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a4qUKY0eErxSa91W5ebClU8CwXmMgwK0jsed02zfrTo=; b=G5HGUGfw14ON13Yf4eCIHgl5b7uupx1suDFHjw2WRUzt15VquokuGEzESXic3a4Fb1 tMGUgLIIBrpVkZXEsBP02bxq0tAr0/vIydvynOijcohM7hC8cm0CCCHwNQdusTE5az+/ TeIffYSDke/ayNPMTwlLZ9xJ1dvhqkJ1R8r0I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ushxMd+gvikxVoSHl643wmCShRt4HQXUyVJ6dHKM8Ea4KMNSnhR9zh4mq3/8FWn2K7 4mqu397TUWm5f8yorsccLL4dg08ix1DViFq3g98pFbmOeg4+L03htBBKNl2KvZq03djO XGhhRXYcLTkNcT0J7rAl6vi0wewNFoF5MDP2U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CD9B972.4080804@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4CD9B972.4080804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 23:14:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bfddb3b6420494a6106b Resent-Message-ID: <270IPC.A.UhG.Kfc2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 22:14:35 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bfddb3b6420494a6106b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cool,or you can also redefine the start point via the direct midi comand,right? On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:13 PM, andy butler wrote= : > Bill's referring to a lot of Looperlative specific stuff here. > > In EDP land it's similar though. > > Replacing Quantised 8ths into an empty loop will eventually > produce a nice rhythm to work with. > It's kind of random, except that you make a conscious decision to stop > modifying it once it gets good. > > It *is* possible to drop the 8th notes in accurately, but there's a > special technique to be learned where you hit the footswitch just in > advance of the beat. > ...but to be honest, it's not worth the effort, just flailing around > gets better results without the hassle. > > Of course, the Startpoint is unlikely to be in the right place, but if ne= ed > be you'd just sync your second edp to it and things would work out just > fine. > If you need to re-sync it, then Mute>Multiply would do it. > > andy butler > > > > William Walker wrote: > >> I could understand if you first made a sneaking silent loop then biiped = a >> couple of quant replaces in, but how do you ensure its on the beat you w= ant >> if the loop is silent, or... don=B4t you? is it random? Or what...? spil= l the >> beans my friend... >> >> If i told you Mark, I'd have to kill you, you know that :-) Yes it was = a >> sneaky blank loop I created just prior to starting to play. Once the the >> loop evolves in to a more tangible rhythm I start creating complimentary >> parts around it and it doesn't really matter as long as I'm using sync >> record to establish the first loop length, and setting at least another = loop >> track to the same length by choosing a new track and arming it by hitt= ing >> play stop first. Bill >> > > --001636c5bfddb3b6420494a6106b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cool,or you can also redefine the start point via the direct midi comand,ri= ght?

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:13 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tisca= li.co.uk> wrote:
Bill's referring to a lot of= Looperlative specific stuff here.

In EDP land it's similar thou= gh.

Replacing Quantised 8ths into an empty loop will eventually
produce = a nice rhythm to work with.
It's kind of random, except that you mak= e a conscious decision to stop
modifying it once it gets good.

It *is* possible to drop the 8th notes in accurately, but there's a
= special technique to be learned where you hit the footswitch just in advanc= e of the beat.
...but to be honest, it's not worth the effort, just = flailing around
gets better results without the hassle.

Of course, the Startpoint is= unlikely to be in the right place, but if need
be you'd just sync y= our second edp to it and things would work out just fine.
If you need to= re-sync it, then Mute>Multiply would do it.

andy butler=20



William Walker wrote:
I could understand if you first = made a sneaking silent loop then biiped a couple of quant replaces in, but = how do you ensure its on the beat you want if the loop is silent, or... don= =B4t you? is it random? Or what...? spill the beans my friend...

=A0If i told you Mark, I'd have to kill you, you know that :-) Yes = it was a sneaky blank loop I created just prior to starting to play. Once t= he the loop evolves in to a more tangible rhythm I start creating complimen= tary parts around it and it doesn't really matter as long as I'm us= ing sync record to establish the first loop length, and setting at least an= other loop =A0track to the same length by choosing a new =A0track and armin= g it by hitting play stop first. =A0Bill


--001636c5bfddb3b6420494a6106b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 22:43:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48BE03BE91; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 22:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6pLbiHflJ/Aa1PzhPTE7LbgUd+EzdMVXXcPUNkvecJI=; b=oNircafI0pqlCuqlCiqBOy8yT9Ng/8F/oHdhSTrqaLODkvt3QWIik6b0Molh1a7dNQ D/9dROpuemMNuqm0geEOUD5/QljoBoS7CG1gV1arooF34uUmFLUFzQod9sRvSmuEJob4 9M13XT1jlQ8PAWlja9BdcnvGU2Ow/lV0Z11/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WLxKNNYeFZmYZVK8nfJSxCgoRKMIZC2uyV4csE8WRxhPD3D31NhtHUM8IAx58KrQ4r 3P2IzL0/Nwqj5QvvEhLYcwlVply2TlaUgyk8DRQhl0xhwWgrjVXRk8o2pT90Hh/Jk6q2 2Vvle0u8JTtnjMZonxuyPdm3tGWoa5mjHEKAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20101109181413.463CF1F6904@c-in3ws--03-04.sv2.lotuslive.com> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:43:25 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 22:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Hmmm... interesting. I'm coming into this conversation late in the game. The following is just from what I've witnessed - there's no claim of expertise here. :) To me, "Looping" is a technology, a technique, and could be called a compositional style. Technology: You buy a looping and put it in your rig. You have looping. Technique: You learn how to use the looping pedal, and to incorporate it into what you're doing. You learn a few tricks that can only be done with looping pedals. Compositional Style: As you continue to work with looping technology, it affects the structure of your music. I find that even when the looping pedal is taken away, I often still imitate things that it does. Example 1: Except for relatively advanced players, the song structure of a looping performance is often "the ramp". That is, the player starts out with a single layer, and continues adding layers until he/she gets to a certain plateau, then solos over it. (I'm totally guilty of this!) Example 2: Except for relatively advanced players on relatively advanced equipment, music that depends on looping equipment often tends to focus on patterns that repeat for the entire song with little variation. For example, if there is a Verse/Chorus song structure, the Chorus often has additional loops on top of the existing chord progression, rather than a different chord progression. In some songs where there is a bridge, or a different chord progression before the chorus, sometimes those elements are performed and stored on the looping device before the song begins. Example 3: Compositions often use elements or "tricks" that are provided by the technology, that wouldn't be used otherwise. For example, since I've been using a DL-4, many of my "songs" have included point when everything switches to 1/2 speed. I also frequently use the reverse function to layer forward and backward material at the same time, to give a sense of disorientation. Live Looping could arguably be called a genre, but in my brain, a genre called "looping" would not necessarily describe all music that involves live looping. In the same way that not all bands that jam fit in the genre name of "jam bands". Perhaps it works better as a modifier to a genre, like "Post" or "Proto". In other words, there will be a definite genre like rock or hip-hop, but with the definite added aesthetic that's provided by repeating phrases of recorded musical material. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 22:58:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 792473BE93; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 22:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=55aEd8aQxdPZbjlwfJGKc3UrHT8Ca/zaRCVxf4EzMuo=; b=Ob3HRatsX+7S2DORLngXIflWzYFvV5EDgKB6nCw2/EvWca8jU9ABWjYAlArG7NYpCw gYGzqzMnWNylnyIkDPBwqA/1SGq8BTz5e4PA7hWetpvJBjqlcRmgn0w9VEUHCvKJ1ksT VwBRIX9GYfAHUsNtTGD9zznw7It4naeeaswv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=slaarCBGQrFsTBwInTs+ZBn3aWU1MGuP+AmOmt4YPTb043oSHY9Zfys0EXaWkQ7EJL dfXRkRK3pmdWnlHKS1I+fcRdDshkp2FcVUc7/gxMlCD5l87HEcRknMAZe+WKJZpBX5zI bgiCIzG1N9IDYFCwhC87dySlepqDFzfBsu8II= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4CD9B972.4080804@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4CD9B972.4080804@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 23:58:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Wh4R4bA3tgwvDHz468VTNbNCC08 Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549b2769aa3b0494a6ad17 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 22:58:23 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549b2769aa3b0494a6ad17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use quantised 8ths all the time Andy... Bill just did this thing where th= e 8th just turned up... I figured he used an empty loop... I was just curious cos it sounded so well organised and not my usual "flailing around" till something happens... So Mute Multiply re synches the second edp eh? Now thats new to me... I nearly sent you a mail a few days ago asking about exactly that... weird...have you been listening at my studio window...? you live in Norfol= k right... not North Oslo?? Mark On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:13 PM, andy butler wrote= : > Bill's referring to a lot of Looperlative specific stuff here. > > In EDP land it's similar though. > > Replacing Quantised 8ths into an empty loop will eventually > produce a nice rhythm to work with. > It's kind of random, except that you make a conscious decision to stop > modifying it once it gets good. > > It *is* possible to drop the 8th notes in accurately, but there's a > special technique to be learned where you hit the footswitch just in > advance of the beat. > ...but to be honest, it's not worth the effort, just flailing around > gets better results without the hassle. > > Of course, the Startpoint is unlikely to be in the right place, but if ne= ed > be you'd just sync your second edp to it and things would work out just > fine. > If you need to re-sync it, then Mute>Multiply would do it. > > andy butler > > > > William Walker wrote: > >> I could understand if you first made a sneaking silent loop then biiped = a >> couple of quant replaces in, but how do you ensure its on the beat you w= ant >> if the loop is silent, or... don=B4t you? is it random? Or what...? spil= l the >> beans my friend... >> >> If i told you Mark, I'd have to kill you, you know that :-) Yes it was = a >> sneaky blank loop I created just prior to starting to play. Once the the >> loop evolves in to a more tangible rhythm I start creating complimentary >> parts around it and it doesn't really matter as long as I'm using sync >> record to establish the first loop length, and setting at least another = loop >> track to the same length by choosing a new track and arming it by hitt= ing >> play stop first. Bill >> > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549b2769aa3b0494a6ad17 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use quantised 8ths all the time Andy... Bill just did this thing where th= e 8th just turned up... I figured he used an empty loop... I was just curio= us cos it sounded so well organised and not my usual "flailing around&= quot; till something happens...

So Mute Multiply re synches the second edp eh? Now thats new= to me... I nearly sent you a mail a few days ago asking about exactly that= ... weird...have you been listening at my studio window...? =A0you live in = Norfolk right... not North Oslo??


Mark



On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:13 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali= .co.uk> wrote:
Bill's referring to a lot of Looperlati= ve specific stuff here.

In EDP land it's similar though.

Replacing Quantised 8ths into an empty loop will eventually
produce a nice rhythm to work with.
It's kind of random, except that you make a conscious decision to stop<= br> modifying it once it gets good.

It *is* possible to drop the 8th notes in accurately, but there's a
special technique to be learned where you hit the footswitch just in advanc= e of the beat.
...but to be honest, it's not worth the effort, just flailing around gets better results without the hassle.

Of course, the Startpoint is unlikely to be in the right place, but if need=
be you'd just sync your second edp to it and things would work out just= fine.
If you need to re-sync it, then Mute>Multiply would do it.

andy butler



William Walker wrote:
I could understand if you first made a sneaking silent loop then biiped a c= ouple of quant replaces in, but how do you ensure its on the beat you want = if the loop is silent, or... don=B4t you? is it random? Or what...? spill t= he beans my friend...

=A0If i told you Mark, I'd have to kill you, you know that :-) Yes it w= as a sneaky blank loop I created just prior to starting to play. Once the t= he loop evolves in to a more tangible rhythm I start creating complimentary= parts around it and it doesn't really matter as long as I'm using = sync record to establish the first loop length, and setting at least anothe= r loop =A0track to the same length by choosing a new =A0track and arming it= by hitting play stop first. =A0Bill




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--20cf30549b2769aa3b0494a6ad17-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 9 23:39:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C4C33BE8E; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 23:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=yCOs8od7mLiHp4yJ2oD9ErupLnh2Vlu7hFwyDHuRjtw=; b=MCocHNq+NToYs0XlS64pNtz42xGO3cRXTQQ4T9jJ1xN4mrbDOX5wXMpIuRK+VetCjN mCzGSwThN8KKeOaJ9Jx8KtwmaauyQP9nRG4Q3GsOkcnmqM5DOytIwykSTcokXsvV+itB I8/9UwNbnW3e014p5sfwDPVADm+Rb5KRECKqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=icV0hI7xHvWid/k+6u7l+H0mFnkjHXjzM/aD0tBnP2TmButignueT1ZXvk1ElZ/G0f DSR027OzMzohEYfzh264Sk1i/gAjlDh/uvmX5jwI0AOUELpo7yMR/ZyiPs0ut0GdEOii xHzKwGar++hiAEo2TCxgoGFtG/rwHtSw2jUmw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4CD9B972.4080804@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4CD9B972.4080804@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:39:19 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PWE9ReKVL8rskcwArl0MqIrMswE Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d3e721cb5670494a741c1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 23:39:41 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301d3e721cb5670494a741c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > If you need to re-sync it, then Mute>Multiply would do it. > > andy butler > > > WAIT A MO.. I tried it... Mute Multiply... what does that do exactly... realign the start points? OK, but what if the second EDP has changed the length of its loop.. then its out of synch again in one loops time.. Anyway, to fix the second EDP to be IN SYNCH.. after taking it out of synch...? probably by chopping the second edp to fit the first? AM I making sense? not sure... -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf301d3e721cb5670494a741c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If you need to re-sync it, then Mute>Multiply would do it.

andy butler



WAIT A MO.. I tried i= t... Mute Multiply... what does that do exactly... realign the start points= ? OK, but what if the second EDP has changed the length of its loop.. then = its out of synch again =A0in one loops time..

Anyway, to fix the second EDP to be IN SYNCH.. after ta= king it out of synch...? probably by chopping the second edp to fit the fir= st? AM I making sense? not sure...



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--20cf301d3e721cb5670494a741c1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 01:17:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C82623BE93; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 01:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 02:17:08 +0100 Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? X-Originating-Ip: 98.180.40.193 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101110011708.E6AFA160221@c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8zjVu.A.PsC.WKf2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 01:17:10 +0000 (UTC) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sean Echevarria > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 12:07:37 -0800 >=20 >=20 > At 2010.11.09 10:14 AM, Mark Showalter wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Toby G > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > > > Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:58:09 -0800 > > > > > > > > > It's a valid question if you're aware of Steve Reich's work. > > > > What is the question & who is being asked? >=20 > The question is the one that you answered below. >=20 >=20 > > > > Can you elaborate on how looping is a technique of electronics > > > > and not performance? > > > > If a performer electronically loops a phrase, say a 2 measure=20 > > idea, the performer is no longer performing that part. It exists=20 > > as an electronic sample that is just being repeated by a loop=20 > > pedal or sampler or whatever electronic device is being employed.=20 > > It differers in a compositional sense because there is not a=20 > > musician there reading a piece of music & playing the same bit=20 > > perfectly & repeatedly. Any variations on that bit must be=20 > > accomplished by electronic means, not by a performer i.e. the=20 > > musician who originally played it. Keep in mind we're talking=20 > > about this in regards to music theory & composition that one=20 > > would learn in school. "Looping" in regards to how this emails is=20 > > discussed does not get covered in a class on theory & composition=20 > > because it isn't relavent there. In a Music Studio programme, of=20 > > course, this is very common, all the way back to the use of tape=20 > > loops in all types of music. >=20 > And with that kind of thinking, it will stay out of school!=20=20 > Someone comes to the list because he is writing a "paper on various=20 > aspects of digital looping used in live performance" - and you're=20 > suggesting that looping means something different in an academic=20 > environment than in the real world. Come to think of it, in=20 > general, that does seem to be a common complaint of academia.=20=20 > Looks like Patrick (author of OP) made a mistake venturing out of=20 > the academic environment. I think you're missing my point here. I am not saying that=20 electronic looping will not be covered in school, it WILL, in=20 classes on studio technique. As I pointed out it is a very common=20 technique used in the studio, for instance, the cash register FX on=20 Pink Floyd's "Money", which was a tape loop. Electronic looping,=20 however, was not covered in my theory & composition classes simply=20 because it isn't something that any of the people who wrote the=20 books & curriculum covered.... since it was something covered in=20 classes on studio technique. This is not to say that in the years=20 to come, looping will not be covered more thoroughly in music=20 theory & composition classes, but as far as I know it isn't=20 currently & wasn't when I was in school. Also, keep in mind that the point of studying theory & composition=20 in school is to learn the techniques of interpreting & writing the=20 music of the past, like Beethovan, Bach, Mozart, etc. "Looping"=20 simply doesn't fall anywhere into that group of composers. One of the=20 reasons music students must study theory & composition=20 is so that understanding & interpreting the music of the past is not lost. Clearly, "Looping" doesn't fall into this category,=20 especially when a lot of the performance is improvised & then=20 erased. This isn't the point of studying music: a composer=20 generally would not write a symphony,perform it & then tear=20 it up, burn the shreds & move on. This is simply a matter of two completely= different approaches. It isn't academic snobbery any more than a major eve= nt in history that happened yesterday not being immediately included in a H= istory class is any form of snobbery. Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 01:20:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 835523BEAF; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 01:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 02:20:19 +0100 Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? X-Originating-Ip: 98.180.40.193 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-06.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101110012019.9C1E94FCE5@c-in3ws--03-06.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 01:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Hello All, My only change here would be to use "improvise" instead of "compose" to avo= id getting even more confused or complicated. Otherwise, all good points. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matt Davignon > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Academic/musicological research on looping technique? > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:43:25 -0800 >=20 >=20 > Hmmm... interesting. >=20 > I'm coming into this conversation late in the game. The following is > just from what I've witnessed - there's no claim of expertise here. :) >=20 > To me, "Looping" is a technology, a technique, and could be called a > compositional style. >=20 > Technology: You buy a looping and put it in your rig. You have looping. >=20 > Technique: You learn how to use the looping pedal, and to incorporate > it into what you're doing. You learn a few tricks that can only be > done with looping pedals. >=20 > Compositional Style: As you continue to work with looping technology, > it affects the structure of your music. I find that even when the > looping pedal is taken away, I often still imitate things that it > does. > Example 1: Except for relatively advanced players, the song structure > of a looping performance is often "the ramp". That is, the player > starts out with a single layer, and continues adding layers until > he/she gets to a certain plateau, then solos over it. (I'm totally > guilty of this!) > Example 2: Except for relatively advanced players on relatively > advanced equipment, music that depends on looping equipment often > tends to focus on patterns that repeat for the entire song with little > variation. For example, if there is a Verse/Chorus song structure, the > Chorus often has additional loops on top of the existing chord > progression, rather than a different chord progression. > In some songs where there is a bridge, or a different chord > progression before the chorus, sometimes those elements are performed > and stored on the looping device before the song begins. > Example 3: Compositions often use elements or "tricks" that are > provided by the technology, that wouldn't be used otherwise. For > example, since I've been using a DL-4, many of my "songs" have > included point when everything switches to 1/2 speed. I also > frequently use the reverse function to layer forward and backward > material at the same time, to give a sense of disorientation. >=20 > Live Looping could arguably be called a genre, but in my brain, a > genre called "looping" would not necessarily describe all music that > involves live looping. In the same way that not all bands that jam fit > in the genre name of "jam bands". >=20 > Perhaps it works better as a modifier to a genre, like "Post" or > "Proto". In other words, there will be a definite genre like rock or > hip-hop, but with the definite added aesthetic that's provided by > repeating phrases of recorded musical material. >=20 > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 02:55:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 835B53BE93; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 02:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4140BF73-A0CC-4ABD-854B-E546A06BCA6E@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--334615626 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:55:13 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 02:55:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--334615626 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy:It *is* possible to drop the 8th notes in accurately, but there's a special technique to be learned where you hit the footswitch just in advance of the beat. yep, I've been working on that with a twist. I usually press quantize replace after i strike a note or during a volume or tone control swell on my guitar to avoid sampling the attack of the note. sounds less guitar like that way, more synth-like. This has become my go to way to create the kinds of sequencing type parts, I used to do with the Repeater but with ought the pitch shift -mellotron -pitch shifting aspects, and no midi controller required to achieve the effect. For me it has a similar vibe though. But it makes it so I have to strike the note two beats ahead and hit q- replace one beat ahead, if I really want to nail a downbeat or a particular beat in the measure I've created (which is what my blank first loop is acting as), but its really hard to be accurate and............. Andy:...but to be honest, it's not worth the effort, just flailing around gets better results without the hassle. And I would add to that the cool thing is it is unpredictable, which creates note sequences you might not other wise think of and you can continually evolve and devolve it by either adding content or subtracting by replacing while not playing. (replacing with space) But someone with a strictly compositional sense might find it maddening. me I love the fact its never the same way twice but it is possible to have predictable results such as if i played the same note sequence as I hit q-replace in time. also its important to note that on the LP-1 in order to have a sus style command similar to the EDP . you have to double up the quantize command on the preset you create. That way you only have to press the preset switch once to initiate the command. Bill --Apple-Mail-1--334615626 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy:It *is* possible to drop = the 8th notes in accurately, but there's a
special technique to be = learned where you hit the footswitch just in advance of the = beat.
yep, I've been working on = that with a twist. I usually press quantize replace after i strike a = note or during a volume or tone control swell on my guitar to avoid = sampling the attack of the note. sounds less guitar like that way, more = synth-like.  This has become my go to way to create the kinds of = sequencing type parts,  I used to do with the Repeater but with = ought the pitch shift -mellotron -pitch shifting aspects, and no midi = controller required to achieve the effect. For me it has  a similar = vibe though.  But it makes it so I  have to strike the note = two beats ahead and hit q- replace one beat ahead, if I really want to = nail a downbeat or a particular beat in the measure I've created (which = is what my blank first loop is acting as), but its really hard to be = accurate and.............

gets better = results without the hassle.
And I would = add to that  the cool thing is it is unpredictable,  which = creates note sequences you might not other wise think of and you can = continually evolve and devolve it by either adding content or = subtracting by replacing while not playing. (replacing with space) But = someone with a strictly compositional sense might find it maddening. me = I love the fact its never the same way twice but it is possible to have = predictable results such as if i played the same note sequence as I hit = q-replace in time. also its important to note that on the LP-1 in order = to have a sus style command similar to  the EDP . you have to = double up the quantize command on the preset you create. That way you = only have to press the preset switch once to initiate the = command.
Bill



= --Apple-Mail-1--334615626-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 04:16:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4D683BE95; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 04:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3gHCLKr5t1b76Mnm4HX8V/w7naMM8ANHwZk4+KQ5GXw=; b=oVJUZbOm0M5G0PD1by+SK4M1+8uEDWTfwwOT8jvyZQxtEIRm/Kkdj47CbGY6B3IRfz 1pn808ONjlwkVPPYUR7RfjG0khkGAGEKK054alXNFTqEiGiULojCB8dh/PIeIFY/pNwY qv0G+mKY8mxcqOXPZoJMWqM4/UjGTOTVJQfAM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=q+s3DtnwhLKZ5FzbiNimR4OSo0cEvjxxDlgsfNnLlsN0dFXCocWmERUUWvwUtMMM0u s1jJd4fCInOuUNcEPvb7lCFFxLSKxzcjlS0s5tDLyHcmdnUcaf6mzqa6gYc1/s9ThiD1 6Z4jbGNSqCxjGdDRlwHWW97h4utQIToWikoLA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:16:00 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: searching for sound happenings in Seoul From: michael noble To: phonography@yahoogroups.com, Acoustic Ecology Listr , naturerecordists@yahoo.com, loopers-delight , mulch-discuss@yahoogroups.com, sound-studies@googlegroups.com, SOUNDSCAPEUK@jiscmail.ac.uk, PD send List , soundasart@yahoogroups.com, microsound@microsound.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 04:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, Forgive the cross posting, but I'm trying to cast a wide net as I suspect there may not be many fish out there on this one. I've been living in Korea for a number of years, and in Seoul in particular for the last 4. During this time I've been quietly working in solitude on my PhD which focuses on a number of sound related threads. I'm not here to spruik my work though. I'm really looking for collaborators, like-minds or just interested folk who are in Korea and engaged in sound from an academic, ecological or aesthetic perspective. I'd like to see what possibility there is for forming a phonographer's union, a sound art collective, a patching circle, a potential chapter of the WFAE or any other regular and organized group dedicated to sound studies in this country or region with a base in Seoul. Indeed, if there already exists such a thing I'd love to hear about that too. So if you're in Seoul, engaged in sound, and interested in organizing some kind of meetup, feel free to contact me off list. -Michael Noble From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 05:21:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7697A3BE95; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 05:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20101110011711.403473BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20101110011711.403473BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 21:21:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: OT Audio Adapter Query From: looppool@cruzio.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 05:21:25 +0000 (UTC) I'm having an audio adapter dilemma and wondered if someone can see what I'm doing wrong. I just purchased a really cool Dayglo Orange puffy backpack that has a small 3 watt amplifier in it with two stereo speakers built into the backpack. This backpack has a hard wired stereo male mini 1/8" plug that is supposed to hook up into an Mp3 or portable player (taking the Mp3's output to be amplified). It works in this capacity. I also have a strange instrument from the 60's called a 'Sonica' that is , essentially, a ribbon controlled touch organ. It has built in speakers but a Mono speaker out (that disengages the built in speakers when plugged in) that takes a mono male mini 1/8" plug (sending the signal out to an external amplifier). I went to Radio Shack and purchased a stereo female mini 1/8" (to plug the backpack amp into) that goes to a male 1/8" mini plug that plugs into the audio out of the Sonica. I can't get the Sonica signal to amplify through the backback. I've tried all components out with their respective appropriate connections (Sonica to amplifier, Mp3 player to Backpack and the plug works What am I getting wrong. I'm stumped. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 05:57:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5125C3BE94; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 05:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20101109224259.64li3jrmogo84c0g@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 22:42:59 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, looppool@cruzio.com Subject: Re: OT Audio Adapter Query References: <20101110011711.403473BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 05:57:40 +0000 (UTC) could it be some weird stereo->mono connector thing? I'm just stabbing =20 in the dark.. I hope I don't poke your eye out.. :) -cpr Quoting looppool@cruzio.com: > > I'm having an audio adapter dilemma and wondered if someone can see what > I'm doing wrong. > > I just purchased a really cool Dayglo Orange puffy backpack that has > a small 3 watt amplifier in it with two stereo speakers built into the > backpack. > > This backpack has a hard wired stereo male mini 1/8" plug that is supposed > to hook up into an Mp3 or portable player (taking the Mp3's output to be > amplified). It works in this capacity. > > I also have a strange instrument from the 60's called a 'Sonica' > that is , essentially, a ribbon controlled touch organ. > > It has built in speakers but a Mono speaker out (that disengages the > built in speakers when plugged in) that takes a mono male mini 1/8" plug > (sending the signal out to an external amplifier). > > I went to Radio Shack and purchased a stereo female mini 1/8" (to plug the > backpack > amp into) that goes to a male 1/8" mini plug that plugs into the audio > out of the Sonica. > > I can't get the Sonica signal to amplify through the backback. > > I've tried all components out with their respective appropriate connection= s > (Sonica to amplifier, Mp3 player to Backpack and the plug works > > What am I getting wrong. > I'm stumped. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 08:05:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFE473BE91; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_18a75b2b-e301-4323-9184-55f130467b9b_" X-Originating-IP: [217.44.16.55] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT Audio Adapter Query Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:05:43 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20101110011711.403473BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2010 08:05:43.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[129635D0:01CB80AE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:05:44 +0000 (UTC) --_18a75b2b-e301-4323-9184-55f130467b9b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rick=2C how are you doing? Have to "buzzed" the lead by just touching the end of it while its plugged = into your amp=2C (which sounds very cool btw)? or how about plugging the lead in the other way round. Just a couple of low tech solutions. It may be that the lead just doesn't w= ork properly.. Peace Gareth > Date: Tue=2C 9 Nov 2010 21:21:23 -0800 > Subject: OT Audio Adapter Query > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 >=20 > I'm having an audio adapter dilemma and wondered if someone can see what > I'm doing wrong. >=20 > I just purchased a really cool Dayglo Orange puffy backpack that has > a small 3 watt amplifier in it with two stereo speakers built into the > backpack. >=20 > This backpack has a hard wired stereo male mini 1/8" plug that is suppose= d > to hook up into an Mp3 or portable player (taking the Mp3's output to be > amplified). It works in this capacity. >=20 > I also have a strange instrument from the 60's called a 'Sonica' > that is =2C essentially=2C a ribbon controlled touch organ. >=20 > It has built in speakers but a Mono speaker out (that disengages the > built in speakers when plugged in) that takes a mono male mini 1/8" plug > (sending the signal out to an external amplifier). >=20 > I went to Radio Shack and purchased a stereo female mini 1/8" (to plug th= e > backpack > amp into) that goes to a male 1/8" mini plug that plugs into the audio > out of the Sonica. >=20 > I can't get the Sonica signal to amplify through the backback. >=20 > I've tried all components out with their respective appropriate connectio= ns > (Sonica to amplifier=2C Mp3 player to Backpack and the plug works >=20 > What am I getting wrong. > I'm stumped. >=20 >=20 = --_18a75b2b-e301-4323-9184-55f130467b9b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rick=2C how are you doing?
Have to "buzzed" the lead by just touching= the end of it while its plugged into your amp=2C (which sounds very cool b= tw)?
or how about plugging the lead in the other way round.
Just a co= uple of low tech solutions. It may be that the lead just doesn't work prope= rly..

Peace

Gareth

>=3B Date: Tue=2C 9 Nov 2010 21:2= 1:23 -0800
>=3B Subject: OT Audio Adapter Query
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>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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>=3B I'm having an audio adapter dilemma and wondered if so= meone can see what
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>=3B I just p= urchased a really cool Dayglo Orange puffy backpack that has
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= --_18a75b2b-e301-4323-9184-55f130467b9b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 08:43:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A73633BE91; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8PAfB396Pj0KeV5fB6T/Rcfi82UylrC3tK2HABTWRkQ=; b=QpcnznCDTFJJcYrK4OXQPE7EqZPAhWBxEwHuQkmX6pfeFPOpQVBNNe1Qo7QDr+NUei QyElN0jbLygLt+L9zmciNgvr2zJAJk0a7XM5GGkoBU5MuXfq/heR41v+p0prA+wt/ehX nHZq+PDeEpVqk9P/oq7N2rZHqgRG3m/VpS9c4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GKNASygJKq3wcvWdB9VJpWaNIH5V+SpB+bdb1eka6UXfKoeTUgsMTcHEaTvEyiWlTV tW6nV3cgAqD2m7n+9+cxh5IGs6sey0qcedsN5QitJvWeZpCd2s5xXU7CwFHVVAD+2Wo/ 3iCtZU5HNwqQF03Y4k5cvZaRBhuYrK4gx1/nU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:43:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: OT Audio Adapter Query From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Rick, just so I'm getting this right: You have: a) the rucksack with a stereo male 1/8 plug b) the Sonica with a (mono?) female 1/8 jack c) the cable which goes from stereo female to stereo male (extension cord) d) an mp3 player with female 1/8 jack for testing purposes. Now I understand that somehow mp3 player through backpack does work, and Sonica through backpack does not. Which role does the cable (c) play here? Has it any effect on working/non-working? And another question: you mentioned that the Sonica will switch off its speakers when something is plugged in. Does that happen when you plug in your cable or the rucksack? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 10:22:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DC093BE8C; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 530312163/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.176.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.176.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsEBANsA2kxV0rBB/2dsb2JhbAAHlCvLD4VKBI1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,177,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="530312163" Message-ID: <4CDA7281.20506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:22:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick References: <4CD9B972.4080804@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo wrote: > cool,or you can also redefine the start point via the direct midi > comand,right? > yep, or from the front panel by hitting Parameters>>NextLoop From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 11:53:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8FE23BE8E; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oimNRWb3YzC5aGQ/L4JKDqXOIPFa3c+SQSy++o7i9Kw=; b=OXJ1pntvdUgcm98vAXVBWSjGYOqgjRiDFIab4xomFR10yVn2i08iw1+eI0Qt+V4N/C Aa9bOP31rQWU2JqUGl6vmql1upFm1GgxH5bvXHvt350MGBIdw11wQmgjSNDJY+flz45E mwJ5rX1akBToP7wr9fEW7NBTjxMOcyg4lH0vo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SPCl78x1P1YoyVEVrVT4C5s0vSe2SxoC0D8Lmyu2YeTH6pTRG6MM1BK75soy2mPeQe unOsVCV3q/kRGeX9ib+YOwCRuKaHLm3Wi+vhi9tlG6m3ToMHUZFlen1wCuPv4Cw6sbqT 0Y7/p0ztvA6G90hCIRI9z4CFlYQfE1pZmRBA0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:53:35 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: OT: rack stand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750d928e058b20494b181ba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:53:36 +0000 (UTC) --00151750d928e058b20494b181ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 chaps...i'm looking for something relatively light and portable to put my 2u rack and laptop on. when i perform standing up, i use a regular keyboard stand and it's just the right height, but i can't use it when sitting down, because setting it at the right height makes the "arms" too wide for the rack anybody got any recommendations for something i can use? i've been looking at laptop stands, but the combined weight of the rack, laptop and audio interface comes in at about 11Kg (24lbs) which is too much for most of them. many thanks! sim --00151750d928e058b20494b181ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable chaps...i'm looking for something relatively light and portable to put = my 2u rack and laptop on.
when i perform standing up, i use a regular k= eyboard stand and it's just the right height, but i can't use it wh= en sitting down, because setting it at the right height makes the "arm= s" too wide for the rack
anybody got any recommendations for something i can use? i've been look= ing at laptop stands, but the combined weight of the rack, laptop and audio= interface comes in at about 11Kg (24lbs) which is too much for most of the= m.

many thanks!

sim
--00151750d928e058b20494b181ba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 12:10:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 609373BE93; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LmnxMhtb3aj0laCydDfVsvue2MmcmiUuZMxVc3OJ0Hk=; b=cl6thx0WfTsBQFpXJHRopBU/7f9oDZB/3z4xlepWW8v1AvRxghR8G1wkeSMRzEm33T WYkanrM4F9+9BWprDMdhd9lhVnk8OWU/BlY+lK7UX9w7FmrRMBqcmM/A8nuV1dvFNIpp xvLN3jYnS+b35jUs5bMXMSh0XZkXB+rgiPFIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OaeRAS/evfFNQZUB7tU/95acWW5pcmWdR0ot0DFYrocIylWBLFWv/wnu1Dw817z9XD mS79w2UBWzfoR2WIPW705UH32g5uamT+tzD/L7Ll13W6ssfze2MSD+uxteAZVNy2QSkS YJaKiAf9Gr16zScpBVGjlP7pqG4MSwJ+ArM9A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:10:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: OT: rack stand? From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:10:10 +0000 (UTC) > chaps...i'm looking for something relatively light and portable to put my 2u rack and laptop on. There's two solutions I can think of: a) there's stands for guitar combo amplifiers which work fine in this regard. They usually have a tiltable, L-shaped thing to put the amp on, and if you set it with the long "L" arm about parallel to the ground, some 19'' stuff can easily sit on it. b) use a wooden (or composite material) board to span the length of the arms of the keyboard stand and put your stuff on that. That's what I've been doing all the time. This might be the better option, actually, because you would only need one stand for both sitting down and standing up. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 12:11:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF5353BE94; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 530581994/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.176.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.176.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsEBACoa2kxV0rBB/2dsb2JhbAAHlC3LaoVKBI1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,177,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="530581994" Message-ID: <4CDA8BE8.9010302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:11:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick References: <4CD9B972.4080804@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:11:01 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > I use quantised 8ths all the time Andy... Bill just did this thing where > the 8th just turned up... I figured he used an empty loop... I was just > curious cos it sounded so well organised and not my usual "flailing > around" till something happens... One thing that the Looperlative does which helps this is that once you have a footswitch set up to do an 8th replace it responds in an interesting way to multiple taps. It will automatically do as many replaces as you do taps with a gap between each. That makes it very easy to get some kind of recognisable rhythm happening. You probably already sussed that it's easier to get lucky with a usable rhythm if you start out with a shorter loop (e.g. 8 beats long). > > So Mute Multiply re synches the second edp eh? Now thats new to me... I > nearly sent you a mail a few days ago asking about exactly that... > weird...have you been listening at my studio window...? you live in > Norfolk right... not North Oslo?? Whenever you use 8th replace the spirit of andy butler is looking over your shoulder and whispering random facts about edp features. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 12:23:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDC683BE94; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1pra0rA6a6M82J55M45nRwA92bbrgejI88GO1cujeIU=; b=jjtMweMcW+az18yoxCK2uwmXtSDqyDFlEKSYT1b5YArdBO3D4h8iQgZQDv85Cm0krN K/1Q86wgL7h6MXui7LinADC4S2/uaVJFiNbhBvVBULE6aOkQpA10ywuXgzJpF50/RUli VaS+9zJ0ADHI9fCkhqrZhh7gFDoGXN9XPHLLc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=nQ5Xf3R7/X5PiLKnW6RCRFsnSUtURMLV8OBRU/7ospT3KfqE2dpfYQWs47ELlb360i hGB4EOdiIhf5nPt9RqCuZWuQg1g526UZFvsXixDdx2xhUHJpYrEqPurSTqAC1wW2aoBp VRHPZKv1ORz8n4/2DAS1XfofBvhpRQdvFTrR8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:23:34 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: rack stand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4878a0f256b0494b1ed8b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:23:34 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4878a0f256b0494b1ed8b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks rainer. i was toying with the board idea...it's cheap and effective! On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Rainer Straschill < moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > > chaps...i'm looking for something relatively light and portable to put my > 2u rack and laptop on. > > There's two solutions I can think of: > a) there's stands for guitar combo amplifiers which work fine in this > regard. They usually have a tiltable, L-shaped thing to put the amp > on, and if you set it with the long "L" arm about parallel to the > ground, some 19'' stuff can easily sit on it. > b) use a wooden (or composite material) board to span the length of > the arms of the keyboard stand and put your stuff on that. That's what > I've been doing all the time. This might be the better option, > actually, because you would only need one stand for both sitting down > and standing up. > > Rainer > > --000e0cd4878a0f256b0494b1ed8b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks rainer. i was toying with the board idea...it's cheap and effect= ive!

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Ra= iner Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> chaps...i= 9;m looking for something relatively light and portable to put my 2u rack a= nd laptop on.

There's two solutions I can think of:
a) there's stands for guitar combo amplifiers which work fine in this regard. They usually have a tiltable, L-shaped thing to put the amp
on, and if you set it with the long "L" arm about parallel to the=
ground, some 19'' stuff can easily sit on it.
b) use a wooden (or composite material) board to span the length of
the arms of the keyboard stand and put your stuff on that. That's what<= br> I've been doing all the time. This might be the better option,
actually, because you would only need one stand for both sitting down
and standing up.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer


--000e0cd4878a0f256b0494b1ed8b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 12:41:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F394F3BE98; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:41:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nwuY9RmyxbWw3YvjtefHprj2N+k2k9JekSoUyIKdtNA=; b=v6E138DvHx7/ZPU5M4jmf1DT31vADG4ZYjIV5rhrlm1K2ZvDn0E/zUnj4bwiMvrqMb r5L7o+NsV60SFk8pEgrgFovcaWYsbVb7fo/eBJOfat0bF16LDZ8Bu9jYwAIeyiw4Khz1 PHDh8rRaRM49t1YtWqCCIHhGmvm0N+76E3B6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=OctgClST0tiGGL40+23eeAlKySW03ty56PuXcCJkGAmeWHg7RjRjGjUyqjLmNxy5Jf ORGeSLOIjeu57aEQ1NEfVO19yHPXUoMbcyUG+sPy6h6GWEayv9rUj6I7t2+So69yNa6T fopN6erBiq6tzY4RSG8ST/BLfpf/nAI16U5hU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:41:23 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: rack stand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750d928d444f30494b22c05 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:41:24 +0000 (UTC) --00151750d928d444f30494b22c05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 messing about in the studio and i just found out that the lid of my pedal board fits exactly over my keyboard stand when it's at sitting height and makes a rather nice table, for my rack, laptop and a couple of pedals! :O) sim On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > thanks rainer. i was toying with the board idea...it's cheap and effective! > > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Rainer Straschill < > moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > chaps...i'm looking for something relatively light and portable to put >> my 2u rack and laptop on. >> >> There's two solutions I can think of: >> a) there's stands for guitar combo amplifiers which work fine in this >> regard. They usually have a tiltable, L-shaped thing to put the amp >> on, and if you set it with the long "L" arm about parallel to the >> ground, some 19'' stuff can easily sit on it. >> b) use a wooden (or composite material) board to span the length of >> the arms of the keyboard stand and put your stuff on that. That's what >> I've been doing all the time. This might be the better option, >> actually, because you would only need one stand for both sitting down >> and standing up. >> >> Rainer >> >> > --00151750d928d444f30494b22c05 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable messing about in the studio and i just found out that the lid of my pedal b= oard fits exactly over my keyboard stand when it's at sitting height an= d makes a rather nice table, for my rack, laptop and a couple of pedals!
:O)

sim

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 a= t 12:23 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
thanks rainer. i = was toying with the board idea...it's cheap and effective!


On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 a= t 12:10 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> chaps...i= 9;m looking for something relatively light and portable to put my 2u rack a= nd laptop on.

There's two solutions I can think of:
a) there's stands for guitar combo amplifiers which work fine in this regard. They usually have a tiltable, L-shaped thing to put the amp
on, and if you set it with the long "L" arm about parallel to the=
ground, some 19'' stuff can easily sit on it.
b) use a wooden (or composite material) board to span the length of
the arms of the keyboard stand and put your stuff on that. That's what<= br> I've been doing all the time. This might be the better option,
actually, because you would only need one stand for both sitting down
and standing up.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer



--00151750d928d444f30494b22c05-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 13:09:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DC9B3BE93; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jA7YKkz3wsUkONcJDH3OrTHJWoJiwD3AZ94qqj60WmI=; b=SpZQChPckQLCPhSyGPJ4ol5lM3QmiVn4mYfMhkliqEOfDLtotb0usLXzMRs55zPAC2 pu0me1vj5Hw1t/7PHuM5cIC8f8yfxW6deK+OX1tUyagG6GmzYVijXTTcjU7RE8nvBD4y bQviVx2iVi3y/fzblInHb9JYj1zqIkayx33k0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lefUJga8ZQw8kGy37SIKA1x5RlgSUM1HVQVlRFEW/D5ZiDWAmYbaI6Qf6vq98/y4Wi ixzP+UQGKsgBfc8gGIhr/9PCq8eGn/K7vIddxhp/MvM2sAPJdXCZWOCXhPcf5fvj4I+r KoFlTON9Q29Tj3IY6tXejIf8+zrzV1GWEQgdk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:09:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: rack stand? From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:09:55 +0000 (UTC) http://www.quiklok.com/catalog/?p=productsMore&iProduct=30&sName=WS-540 I use one of these guys...very sturdy and collapses into a very portable and compact shape. - jim On Wednesday, November 10, 2010, Simeon Harris wrote: > chaps...i'm looking for something relatively light and portable to put my 2u rack and laptop on. > when i perform standing up, i use a regular keyboard stand and it's just the right height, but i can't use it when sitting down, because setting it at the right height makes the "arms" too wide for the rack > anybody got any recommendations for something i can use? i've been looking at laptop stands, but the combined weight of the rack, laptop and audio interface comes in at about 11Kg (24lbs) which is too much for most of them. > > many thanks! > > sim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 13:14:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E589C3BE94; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:14:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8zqK893M/ZYImB2vFC6XNcfukAlJjf7VUCX/UcaN6c0=; b=bUYX7JgAMbzEcbLyfZ0C2vPr/NlacXDz47ycs2GPHCcJyCvdZ49ESpyH6PxdSk7Arl yybhnMJkKA+oxO0HT2V1mTjq/ubnuJ9csgMrmKfFAvRrUGOoTy+vrxfkHSpCohkXy+fn FYn/TfuuPgNxVvD+HdHfnV9Oxi9UP5bBGPIvI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=VUqb0mTCZiDBA2FZtdYFlDs/rem9IEy8M+FzHePswvLZi4DDYrWqP+prZ5ws+tw5zD pVmjEaiZQqTGaG8ukzQ2FKTiwJWhoPzLRKreX+gfh5VxiJ/Kvdp/IbBxgJle9IgKoiSZ QGNNp5luQ3sZ8+40EWsgWZKTKFfsW7bqD56f4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:14:36 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: rack stand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4878a935cd10494b2a310 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:14:36 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4878a935cd10494b2a310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 nice! On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:09 PM, james fowler wrote: > http://www.quiklok.com/catalog/?p=productsMore&iProduct=30&sName=WS-540 > > I use one of these guys...very sturdy and collapses into a very > portable and compact shape. > > - jim > > On Wednesday, November 10, 2010, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > chaps...i'm looking for something relatively light and portable to put my > 2u rack and laptop on. > > when i perform standing up, i use a regular keyboard stand and it's just > the right height, but i can't use it when sitting down, because setting it > at the right height makes the "arms" too wide for the rack > > anybody got any recommendations for something i can use? i've been > looking at laptop stands, but the combined weight of the rack, laptop and > audio interface comes in at about 11Kg (24lbs) which is too much for most of > them. > > > > many thanks! > > > > sim > > > > --000e0cd4878a935cd10494b2a310 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice!

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:09 PM, ja= mes fowler <two= stroke@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.quiklok.com/catalog/?p= =3DproductsMore&iProduct=3D30&sName=3DWS-540

I use one of these guys...very sturdy and collapses into a very
portable and compact shape.

- jim

On Wednesday, November 10, 2010, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> chaps...i'm looking for something relatively light and portable to= put my 2u rack and laptop on.
> when i perform standing up, i use a regular keyboard stand and it'= s just the right height, but i can't use it when sitting down, because = setting it at the right height makes the "arms" too wide for the = rack
> anybody got any recommendations for something i can use? i've been= looking at laptop stands, but the combined weight of the rack, laptop and = audio interface comes in at about 11Kg (24lbs) which is too much for most o= f them.
>
> many thanks!
>
> sim
>


--000e0cd4878a935cd10494b2a310-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 17:15:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5E1E3BE98; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YeSLEJLA+BPIwM8+gAwKMXR+qGXW76gNkM7LmfngfKI=; b=OaFkBD9UlVO7VdKxLPE8LNOESWPNFoPF5G6Wwu1vQv78LCRljttfqXx0sxIws2rMWO ZAcOLKJVpC2pFU96mf7o3F22L0EmrB2GXi+WRgZoffy6TMm33RbT0ikVdd8m2tRpY5p9 T284lzbRJqb+k9XrCcl3jz1t5uimfHFhJtV50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aThKWtSIL0/FUQVs2A6NoIZSG+c9yV5DaHGTw/UGbmOZnwAo9nY+PRK45WuCnPS+/z T+RHZiU08pd2YnAEUhAk+9IVRu/SJCEU9ltyBjxX4/OUjCAwjm2omXUT79tNWe/qtsGY a5sX9O8HqPKVS3/wkdGbO+NnxUbeyQJ3ZrTtw= Message-ID: <4CDAD34B.4040808@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:15:55 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: looppool@cruzio.com, Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Re: OT Audio Adapter Query References: <20101110121010.D100E3BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <9d5a83a7eb89878de489ec6145093aa2.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <9d5a83a7eb89878de489ec6145093aa2.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7i_feD.A.XbB.ONt2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Ok, so the Sonica has a means to determine if there is something plugged in and it *may* use that to feed audio to the jack (if that second assumption is the case, the whole behaviour would be explained). There's two ways I know of you can use to determine whether something is plugged in: a) a mechanical contact b) two electrical contacts along the length of the "sleeve" portion which measure resistance. Due to how these are places, these sometimes detect a TRS (aka stereo) plug as "nothing is plugged in" (this is the case with the Boss DD20, btw). This would explain (if it's case b) why plugging the rucksack into the Sonica does not work. It does NOT explain why using the female stereo 1/8 to male mono 1/8 adapter does not work, however. I'm at my wit's end - anyone else got any idea? Rainer looppool@cruzio.com schrieb: > Thanks, Rainer > you wrote: > >> just so I'm getting this right: >> You have: >> a) the rucksack with a stereo male 1/8 plug >> > > Yes and the plug is hard wired into the little plastic battery powered > amplifier > with two mono cables going out to the speakers (imbedded in the backpack > --- very cool!) > > >> b) the Sonica with a (mono?) female 1/8 jack >> > > Yes > >> c) the cable which goes from stereo female to stereo male (extension >> cord) >> > > No, I bought a single piece adapter that goes from female stereo 1/8 > (going to amp) > to a male mono 1/8 (going directly into the Sonica) > > I tried just putting the stereo plug from the Amp straight into the out of > the Sonica > but that produces no sound and does NOT cut off the Sonica's internal speaker > > >> d) an mp3 player with female 1/8 jack for testing purposes. >> > > Yes > > > >> Now I understand that somehow mp3 player through backpack does work, >> and Sonica through backpack does not. >> > > Yes > > >> Which role does the cable (c) play here? Has it any effect on >> working/non-working? >> > > Well, the only cable is the stereo female 1/8 that goes into the amp. > It works well coming from an mp3 player (nice loud speakers in the back > back with > it's magnificent 3 watt amp) > > >> And another question: you mentioned that the Sonica will switch off >> its speakers when something is plugged in. Does that happen when you >> plug in your cable or the rucksack? >> > > When I plug either the stereo out of the rucksack directly in, it does > NOT cut off the internal speaker of the Sonica (and produces no sound from > the rucksack speakers) > > When I use the stereo to mono adaptor and plug it in, the Sonica sound > does NOT cut off > either > > However, when I plug a normal mono male 1/8 into the Sonica and plug it into > my little lipstic amp (or any guitar amp) it works well and the Sonica > sound cuts off at it's own speaker. > > Okay, that should be enough info. I hope I'm clear enough. > My wife seems to think that it may require an active DI with a preamp, but > it doesn't require one when I use my little battery powered cigarette > amplifier or my vox battery powered amplifier. They are both , admittedly > more powerful amps but in the case of the rucksack amp there is not sound > whatsoever emanating when plugged into the Sonica the way I have it. > > > >> Rainer >> >> > > > -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 17:21:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3B473BEB6; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ubaQaG666cMpKkH+j00wUWI5eXT3WVH4rdVedkNp1f8=; b=K7X25Gm8JKNvEnHPAkV8EmoODEbMEQaI1I/G5uIhFuV9Rlwk+mvhq++HasiaJOXE+8 102Q8uDsQTJG5PaOGkEGryyegg1LBXy9EIiPixHSKcnS/UtFH9V3y5vQiQ/TG14zd8Kv vYlpkgAOnR04JNbhdSdtWUyrUksnBXv+DVSlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mXLOABqEZmlPFp4iKvRzCtK2JxVus+NyPk1OGo4kroVuxgt2gJtuwFZzB3WkN8VuT/ TuLOjTvkioKV3F9l/ahZLjV6J6tL0WqixQ0OIxhpFcNGHNJn5825M8Bvp03DMMx5nCbt xzSpY+XCq73QcCY67HhTVLJ/Oy3oaZyEgITAE= Message-ID: <4CDAD491.7000901@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:21:21 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: rack stand? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Simeon Harris schrieb: > messing about in the studio and i just found out that the lid of my > pedal board fits exactly over my keyboard stand when it's at sitting > height and makes a rather nice table, for my rack, laptop and a couple > of pedals! Sometimes the simple stuff is the stuff that works best (and costs least, or you may already have it)... Reminds me of the time when I played the y2k6loopfest and asked Rick for "a wooden or composite material board", giving minimum and maximum surface area and specific minimum distributed load. Rick was completely at loss what I needed that for and assumed some crazy theatrical stage performance ;). Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 17:59:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36C223BE95; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CTANRyBv6ATu2ku4Q5f9SBdvCLRwhLQlSS6pygVzw6s=; b=BxiSxCbZEk74ryEAezf3mUlP6aTnfspiOnmg0B05pWROwJEJS2JMFj4Ovqmq7wrtJ0 FKiTlsuWjsWwAU+TXcywaW++rS5LQ9SQJUBk5iglsKA2dJb+fRnIbbl/9wgNtwJHHUxn rt0MA+rkehmsMANQGlTWNfIuSgEULQIwvUBEE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=nIs1jmxw3p6DyUWOagP/3J2ZS9Le8cB2aDQwV/rNJ9ZTO43PogMykXphokN6gbd8Zh vKjPRrDQcATuxKUDzKdSRyAyJi9B92MfnYfgO9qzbQjnW/zcV5OdYCnT7ykOImU6Dt+p tJKCyjotii8XfYBZU12PLYTiIyd73OdNLPack= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:59:11 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: For Synth Guitarists From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Hello, Well, due to a great stroke of luck I am entering the world of guitar synth with a Godin Freeway and an Axon 100MKII. I'm sure vast experimentation awaits me, but I was wondering if any of you guitar synth users might be willing to share and tips/tricks about how to get the most from this set-up. I know there are groups devoted to such things, but I really respect the knowledge of this group and feel that there is a much higher likelihood that you all will know the best way to get weird with these beasts. So thanks in advance for any guidance. You can take this off list if you feel the greater whole would not be interested. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 18:42:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E79D3BE93; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h= message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:subject:from:to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s= helpwantedproductions.com; b=Lg/zl1fEEKUf71oyQv0kL0EDHUi2RsSXAED KSHFN3wWogroIVsn5xzEqsttz5g4Fmq0Q2Xe/jGZvd4RCO1ZVpMSmeUaT4GTyvRn kQN/uw4MeysUbkl79/z6WjE3MKTv4cQuu8m4+6BSKfQU4ZPOqgXNV/Du/SIQfBBM 3efNIc7M= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:subject:from:to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= helpwantedproductions.com; bh=VWjHn2ontk1WiJP2r8B85BLM7Hw=; b=Jd tntqkXVfZzzXN/3oCX1ridiM4nKUKndFA3Vwwb5MWS49xlQNFwJrMs2Ztrv6rmpu bCV881ZPRwZaYojFwaGopIlxfqS0hEGEoQBdMW/bH/tDgrSXTypkFFCGO0bquHrT Q4oIKg3NYwX+M4BKb6Mda31A5RqawpVBk7Gss1mQo= Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:42:55 -0800 Subject: FS: SCI Sixtrack, Frac modules, Vintage Fuzz, Wahs From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Synth DIY" , "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Update form previous post. Will be flexible on prices as needed. Also looking for a Tenori-On For sale in Phila PA: Pics/more info up at http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm 1. SCI Sixtrack - $450 Latest ROM OS installed (essential for Midi) and pro done and working six output mod. Excellent shape with very nice padded custom case that fits it perfectly. Copy of manual. I had a sale for this but he seems to hav= e disappeared. You will not find a nicer 6Track and the ROM upgrade costs $= $ via Wine Country. The Output mod is serious plus as well - hence my askin= g price. Price is Firm on this unless you Pickup in phila or buy something else in which case I'll be a bit flexible. 2. Heathkit 60s Fuzz - $175 Great vintage fuzz capable of rolling off to a unique distortion as well. Controls are "distortion", "Boost" as well as two way toggle to add more bass to the signal. Sweet 60s germanium hand wired goodness. 3. 1970s Univox Uniwah - $75 - Classic! I can't find a model # on this so I'm not sure if it's the UW1 or UW2. It has the footswitch button on the right hands side under the pedal rocker if that helps. it looks like this one: http://www.bostonguitar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=3DPROD&Store_Co= de=3DBGWI&Product_Code=3DVE-MISC-UNIVOX-UNIWAH&Category_Code=3DVE-MISC 4. FRAC Rack format modular synth modules - 100% pro built and tested fra= c modules. All run off standard +\- 15vt MOTM/Blacet style Power supply. A. PAIA 9720 Dual VCO - $150 - You cannot buy this module assembled and this includes the faceplate. Working 100%. B. Blacet 2510 Noise/Improbability Drive - $175 - factory (blacet4) assembled. great noise source *and* S/H unit. C. PAIA 9748 Balance Modulator - $40 - Assembled in top shape. cool ring mod type unit nd very flexible. D. Frac/Banana patch panel with 2 wired 1/4" jacks on cables. $50 E. Blacet 2210 Multiple/attenuator - $25 - FREE if you buy the other three modules or a fuzz or Wah pedal in this email). These are gone. Thanks! Vintage Roland Fuzz/Wah - AD50 Roland Doublebeat _SOLD Yamaha CS01 - SOLD Akai S900 sampler with disks. SOLD I think all prices are fair and below Eb*y shite but I will listen to serious offers. Multiple sales, QUICK sales, and local pickups will help $$. Plenty of references. Email any questions, thanks. --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Music and More at the Mothership: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 18:43:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA2503BE97; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h= message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:subject:from:to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s= helpwantedproductions.com; b=rpDxmulbzKDY+oCXgnfzTelSBOHKvGnrvAo HQ/8TerIxjAUvRMD5kJfgl2zvnrlz+TxSeJ7tB51Nh9lTCW8/lxtngPuLc8tpS2g aB31z8w8gDolRJNWawXgpGnCZyFxJDIvUvtdRR4HwmVdenI5HRHbbQIFHwK5YCkU 86o07odU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:subject:from:to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= helpwantedproductions.com; bh=VWjHn2ontk1WiJP2r8B85BLM7Hw=; b=sE okxaLZmARYpkFzJULy2ULq+yy3GxvRJ4XhzJkgcMEt1TIUUsSvkKR0in8XA6i0W5 KwTkAfVIDyTuakT0TfFXoUxi/8YxRww1uYfshgtvRwiegiAPYX6w89/IWeHy88MM /HAyhIsCBNDZ55sl/ZEp0HUYzJUaeaCwAB1QL95QQ= Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:43:10 -0800 Subject: FS: SCI Sixtrack, Frac modules, Vintage Fuzz, Wahs From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Synth DIY" , "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Update form previous post. Will be flexible on prices as needed. Also looking for a Tenori-On For sale in Phila PA: Pics/more info up at http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm 1. SCI Sixtrack - $450 Latest ROM OS installed (essential for Midi) and pro done and working six output mod. Excellent shape with very nice padded custom case that fits it perfectly. Copy of manual. I had a sale for this but he seems to hav= e disappeared. You will not find a nicer 6Track and the ROM upgrade costs $= $ via Wine Country. The Output mod is serious plus as well - hence my askin= g price. Price is Firm on this unless you Pickup in phila or buy something else in which case I'll be a bit flexible. 2. Heathkit 60s Fuzz - $175 Great vintage fuzz capable of rolling off to a unique distortion as well. Controls are "distortion", "Boost" as well as two way toggle to add more bass to the signal. Sweet 60s germanium hand wired goodness. 3. 1970s Univox Uniwah - $75 - Classic! I can't find a model # on this so I'm not sure if it's the UW1 or UW2. It has the footswitch button on the right hands side under the pedal rocker if that helps. it looks like this one: http://www.bostonguitar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=3DPROD&Store_Co= de=3DBGWI&Product_Code=3DVE-MISC-UNIVOX-UNIWAH&Category_Code=3DVE-MISC 4. FRAC Rack format modular synth modules - 100% pro built and tested fra= c modules. All run off standard +\- 15vt MOTM/Blacet style Power supply. A. PAIA 9720 Dual VCO - $150 - You cannot buy this module assembled and this includes the faceplate. Working 100%. B. Blacet 2510 Noise/Improbability Drive - $175 - factory (blacet4) assembled. great noise source *and* S/H unit. C. PAIA 9748 Balance Modulator - $40 - Assembled in top shape. cool ring mod type unit nd very flexible. D. Frac/Banana patch panel with 2 wired 1/4" jacks on cables. $50 E. Blacet 2210 Multiple/attenuator - $25 - FREE if you buy the other three modules or a fuzz or Wah pedal in this email). These are gone. Thanks! Vintage Roland Fuzz/Wah - AD50 Roland Doublebeat _SOLD Yamaha CS01 - SOLD Akai S900 sampler with disks. SOLD I think all prices are fair and below Eb*y shite but I will listen to serious offers. Multiple sales, QUICK sales, and local pickups will help $$. Plenty of references. Email any questions, thanks. --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Music and More at the Mothership: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 19:13:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0789C3BE94; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: softstep. anyone using it successfully? Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:13:31 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:13:34 +0000 (UTC) anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline??? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 19:14:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 109CE3BEA0; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VYDN3KnX0JB09r4bchyG7UsNomvlxscrD2nYdaZvISg=; b=oZ3SJinkwi9qb12634XZguzYmGiYT0VFrGH18X6J+tPhcDvHEmMce1jFVpZ6p+uP1Y 8cA6liuTB0BLixs/sImTaLNA7/xWKCIq2J0ZARtQ6KPOUFwVTPRNFANZDWwI9Gopqesi 0M5kZEeffPGfLM5eTZ2PMKrzrJYRaymOmssIA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UMVvMgbRK3oIAD3ly3xYOfxhoPOcymCVwlhgaYI98g3uSeJGgRp4lmR1a7DqVFWvfP rAZsgCzYpV9sTUYKuqacGjfWNThqs4lvovTSDBJi/dlLBqQvzeaGVh0D1GjKiLlNKGzs /z+FXUfXmKdT9dz+CZgRaTE25kRLCbCQ6NNMs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20101110011711.403473BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:14:15 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Audio Adapter Query From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549dc9ca24bf0494b7a923 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:14:18 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549dc9ca24bf0494b7a923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You might recheck the adapter, are you sure it's stereo to mono? Even so you might try only clicking into one detente with each end. If it works with a guitar amp you shouldn't need it but maybe this, I use it for quite a few apps. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2732095 last resort, try whatever else is left, it's always the last thing you try! J On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:21 AM, wrote: > > I'm having an audio adapter dilemma and wondered if someone can see what > I'm doing wrong. > > I just purchased a really cool Dayglo Orange puffy backpack that has > a small 3 watt amplifier in it with two stereo speakers built into the > backpack. > > This backpack has a hard wired stereo male mini 1/8" plug that is supposed > to hook up into an Mp3 or portable player (taking the Mp3's output to be > amplified). It works in this capacity. > > I also have a strange instrument from the 60's called a 'Sonica' > that is , essentially, a ribbon controlled touch organ. > > It has built in speakers but a Mono speaker out (that disengages the > built in speakers when plugged in) that takes a mono male mini 1/8" plug > (sending the signal out to an external amplifier). > > I went to Radio Shack and purchased a stereo female mini 1/8" (to plug the > backpack > amp into) that goes to a male 1/8" mini plug that plugs into the audio > out of the Sonica. > > I can't get the Sonica signal to amplify through the backback. > > I've tried all components out with their respective appropriate connections > (Sonica to amplifier, Mp3 player to Backpack and the plug works > > What am I getting wrong. > I'm stumped. > > --20cf30549dc9ca24bf0494b7a923 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You might recheck the adapter, are you sure it's stereo to mono? Even s= o you might try only clicking into one detente with each end.

If it = works with a guitar amp you shouldn't need it but maybe this, I use it = for quite a few apps. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productI= d=3D2732095

last resort, try whatever else is left, it's always the last thing = you try!

J

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at= 12:21 AM, <lo= oppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

I'm having an audio adapter dilemma and wondered if someone can see wha= t
I'm doing wrong.

I just purchased a really cool Dayglo Orange puffy backpack that has
a small 3 watt amplifier in it with two stereo speakers built into the
backpack.

This backpack has a hard wired stereo male mini 1/8" plug that is supp= osed
to hook up into an Mp3 or portable player (taking the Mp3's output to b= e
amplified). =A0 =A0It works in this capacity.

I also have a strange instrument from the 60's called a 'Sonica'= ;
that is , essentially, a ribbon controlled touch organ.

It has built in speakers but a Mono speaker out (that disengages the
built in speakers when plugged in) that takes a mono male mini 1/8" pl= ug
(sending the signal out to an external amplifier).

I went to Radio Shack and purchased a stereo female mini 1/8" (to plug= the
backpack
amp into) =A0that goes to a male 1/8" mini plug that plugs into the au= dio
out of the Sonica.

I can't get the Sonica signal to amplify through the backback.

I've tried all components out with their respective appropriate connect= ions
(Sonica to amplifier, =A0Mp3 player to Backpack and the plug works

What am I getting wrong.
I'm stumped.


--20cf30549dc9ca24bf0494b7a923-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 19:53:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 964233BE8E; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 328 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:53:14 UTC From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:47:42 -0600 Subject: RE: softstep. anyone using it successfully? Thread-Topic: softstep. anyone using it successfully? Thread-Index: AcuBC2K9YbMiaygBTWCY5ZMXTOARqwAAKx1g Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B4DF22D@barq.sailpoint.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: VZE= ASdp Bbc8 CPAP CX6X DroZ FDHe FFin FvQ8 F8OO GVMU HC22 HaUk IQ9A IpsH KOBt;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{05EC8914-3D3A-4B5C-BBCB-A6502635C708};agBlAGYAZgAuAGwAYQByAHMAbwBuAEAAcwBhAGkAbABwAG8AaQBuAHQALgBjAG8AbQA=;Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:47:42 GMT;UgBFADoAIABzAG8AZgB0AHMAdABlAHAALgAgAGEAbgB5AG8AbgBlACAAdQBzAGkAbgBnACAAaQB0ACAAcwB1AGMAYwBlAHMAcwBmAHUAbABsAHkAPwA= x-cr-puzzleid: {05EC8914-3D3A-4B5C-BBCB-A6502635C708} x-vipre-scanned: 757F69E2001C6A757F6B2F acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Mark started a Yahoo group where some of us have been commiserating.=20 groups.yahoo.com/group/softstep I think it's safe to say that the software leaves a lot to be desired, but they do seem to be interested in improving it. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Zoe Keating [mailto:info@zoekeating.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:14 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: softstep. anyone using it successfully? anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline??? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 20:31:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D316B3BE92; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 530723435/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.176.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.176.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsEBANKP2kxV0rBB/2dsb2JhbAAHlDTNYIVKBI1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,179,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="530723435" Message-ID: <4CDB012E.8020902@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:31:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: For Synth Guitarists References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:31:22 +0000 (UTC) I'm afraid the only advice I have about the AX100 is that the onboard synth isn't up to much and you really need to get a good synth module. (but ignore that if you try it and like it) andy butler Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hello, > > Well, due to a great stroke of luck I am entering the world of guitar > synth with a Godin Freeway and an Axon 100MKII. I'm sure vast > experimentation awaits me, but I was wondering if any of you guitar > synth users might be willing to share and tips/tricks about how to get > the most from this set-up. > > I know there are groups devoted to such things, but I really respect > the knowledge of this group and feel that there is a much higher > likelihood that you all will know the best way to get weird with these > beasts. > > So thanks in advance for any guidance. You can take this off list if > you feel the greater whole would not be interested. > > Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 20:44:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1311C3BE92; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 530729027/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.176.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.176.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsEBAFeT2kxV0rBB/2dsb2JhbAAHlDTNaoVKBI1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,180,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="530729027" Message-ID: <4CDB041B.5000508@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:44:11 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Audio Adapter Query References: <20101110011711.403473BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2hzZHB.A.pAH.PQw2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:44:00 +0000 (UTC) So, you just plug the backpack direct into the Sonica. It *should* then be possible to hear the Sonica through the left speaker of the backpack. If you can't then one of those two items is faulty. If you can, then the adapter is faulty. andy looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > I'm having an audio adapter dilemma and wondered if someone can see what > I'm doing wrong. > > I just purchased a really cool Dayglo Orange puffy backpack that has > a small 3 watt amplifier in it with two stereo speakers built into the > backpack. > > This backpack has a hard wired stereo male mini 1/8" plug that is supposed > to hook up into an Mp3 or portable player (taking the Mp3's output to be > amplified). It works in this capacity. > > I also have a strange instrument from the 60's called a 'Sonica' > that is , essentially, a ribbon controlled touch organ. > > It has built in speakers but a Mono speaker out (that disengages the > built in speakers when plugged in) that takes a mono male mini 1/8" plug > (sending the signal out to an external amplifier). > > I went to Radio Shack and purchased a stereo female mini 1/8" (to plug the > backpack > amp into) that goes to a male 1/8" mini plug that plugs into the audio > out of the Sonica. > > I can't get the Sonica signal to amplify through the backback. > > I've tried all components out with their respective appropriate connections > (Sonica to amplifier, Mp3 player to Backpack and the plug works > > What am I getting wrong. > I'm stumped. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 20:47:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DB0A3BE92; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nKzytubI3n6+YyXmcjVtyQ+YQc8loOKTOKDh6zl6c6s=; b=XxitGcnzlnqKdh1x2RJJHSYKiArf1l5qyXpuyePI7uW4CZiIYYHPvBON5TUjhSFwRl l1L97pxzLasd0CVTlGTN+jKwCSSk4/Gg6CJdnNQVcmBP3I3lHnEJVLS8QVQAZ5JSxkpg LrMPF16TY7bHczIUVqtssE6YOjEHvgQekmyRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YqlFQf4bwvXGFhiHk//sc1mV5QuNXsK/kXSovgPNRbXxen1HmS4flIf+6Uwb9qWnRZ qYljs8J+n4H4Bf1FoCNCC2gQPkWcpxSRhcz1cF3oLhNzggejpwlMxQ66ktk5X61BNqPY ZjM8sxi7AYhFH27Vdm0cJK1/ZRCcsZZ4eslcA= Message-ID: <4CDB04E3.4070800@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 21:47:31 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Audio Adapter Query References: <20101110011711.403473BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> <4CDB041B.5000508@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4CDB041B.5000508@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:47:30 +0000 (UTC) andy butler schrieb: > So, you just plug the backpack direct into the Sonica. > > It *should* then be possible to hear the Sonica through the left > speaker of the backpack. > > If you can't then one of those two items is faulty. Or the Sonica uses the "Boss DD20 jack detector", as described. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 20:47:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D0AA3BE93; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nl64nmCliizoUQaEY880HejoqovDdZ6FJKeqcLRL/zg=; b=YgwG5oXOzsQmsXcTJUC8ooMa0+OLFDue9fuaggFDxLBzShiTUDxQtWmqyxLNv6ViZy vP1KXILZUKhvGrnYb96y/FRlcergOJjN9yAIEjW+OcC8C3QD0aIY839BwwumJyNRzPRQ TS10oOGtwXIlzAIYykVApuT2M1VWUGDtukQYs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wkowadWj8DQXptv4/hMxAMiB21eRa8s9uTkiGV+vdci9Ru3+bbDetPNv77JAT7hMXk iy1LRwfUNCgQxX8CfdeTUKAIkzhppJZcs/B4Y5CzTSSGN02UpBhJJBB3UhLtuynt75c/ v7ei1/d5P0rDKsfqqqUlzILI/j+X+BhNmwDnA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CDB012E.8020902@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4CDB012E.8020902@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:47:48 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: For Synth Guitarists From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f44ffa5ed1b10494b8f8f7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:47:51 +0000 (UTC) --001485f44ffa5ed1b10494b8f8f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Build a break out box and access audio for each string. Allow madness to ensue etc. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:31 PM, andy butler wrote: > I'm afraid the only advice I have about the AX100 > is that the onboard synth isn't up to much and you > really need to get a good synth module. > (but ignore that if you try it and like it) > > andy butler > > > Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Well, due to a great stroke of luck I am entering the world of guitar >> synth with a Godin Freeway and an Axon 100MKII. I'm sure vast >> experimentation awaits me, but I was wondering if any of you guitar >> synth users might be willing to share and tips/tricks about how to get >> the most from this set-up. >> >> I know there are groups devoted to such things, but I really respect >> the knowledge of this group and feel that there is a much higher >> likelihood that you all will know the best way to get weird with these >> beasts. >> >> So thanks in advance for any guidance. You can take this off list if >> you feel the greater whole would not be interested. >> >> Kevin >> >> > --001485f44ffa5ed1b10494b8f8f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Build a break out box and access audio for each string. Allow madness to en= sue etc.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:31 PM= , andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
I'm afraid th= e only advice I have about the AX100
is that the onboard synth isn't up to much and you
really need to get a good synth module.
(but ignore that if you try it and like it)

andy butler


Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
Hello,

Well, due to a great stroke of luck I am entering the world of guitar
synth with a Godin Freeway and an Axon 100MKII. =A0I'm sure vast
experimentation awaits me, but I was wondering if any of you guitar
synth users might be willing to share and tips/tricks about how to get
the most from this set-up.

I know there are groups devoted to such things, but I really respect
the knowledge of this group and feel that there is a much higher
likelihood that you all will know the best way to get weird with these
beasts.

So thanks in advance for any guidance. =A0You can take this off list if
you feel the greater whole would not be interested.

Kevin



--001485f44ffa5ed1b10494b8f8f7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 21:50:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BAA53BE8D; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 21:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:50:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "Zoe Keating" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 21:50:23 +0000 (UTC) > anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline??? Would you mind, terribly, talking shop online, Zoe? I'm fascinated by this product but so far, unconvinced, and could benefit from your discussions. If you mind, no worries, but I thought I'd ask. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 23:19:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8065C3BE91; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=LA88B/TPMuBdv7zfiI5qJag2Dl2jq7nzdjCnk8xAB2U=; b=t1fD8zeP1Ch1asX/i6mN/PJ7WHsZx/wc70PX7ORH4qcQ0a5FLZ9F5m3CpLVSYjL9Js HvPQmaU5pu44WNMNQR/tzF27vxmMZVrgKEAJiYOR8disck8/ZO5ih6YJEybwF4VsMnJX UTlrDH3laRD07fu5g3fypZXFclUZV/Ds6cQcA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=ugHjd/dnXFGutQBDRABNm5MPA8UlxfeyDLVea5ExeUmDS/BJvfurIno0AkMv+1JAkH ReRFyY/4YIzGtkbI3SbAO8Y4KzX/j3A6UCwnabm2jFca2IdzvRA01mdqjbRKMYMw56Yl cYcbImstJenp/9rHed4WQu2HZM7WbMV1+NX0Q= Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Christopher Darrow X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:23:31 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:19:48 +0000 (UTC) I'd be happy to hear it to. That's why god invented the OT prefix.=20 Besides, I'm sure information about your looping techniques will = necessarily be intwined with the SoftStep functionality. Could be quite = telling! (And I just bought one last night.... bottom line, should I cancel or = keep?!) ---Christopher "I-wish-I-took-up-knitting-instead" Darrow On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:50 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: >> anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline??? >=20 > Would you mind, terribly, talking shop online, Zoe? > I'm fascinated by this product but so far, unconvinced, > and could benefit from your discussions. > If you mind, no worries, but I thought I'd ask. >=20 > rick >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 10 23:38:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 761EB3BE92; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uIKhDf73ABmiZkwamTtMd5uF94hmcno7KJOTO5Czexo=; b=A4qMSmdBCuRISh9pM6U0kFv+VwGXlrCgg2oY+rpaf9Sjgun4lYj4rpHF6FE9MOl/Y4 qjEfHrho4krMJ3IZ1mOWnQKNumU2eO2L2l1ZownRr/USuRD7RwC6pftMOSNMYNzpaJY3 3YgNw887BlGhMQ801s9V8KoabAh7pfh5o/8sg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jsUoR4sL7A8yokBc900KFJeO4Oxrk01dyGwMH9UbIIQYlDY3Z95HzToFhvtWftTo1+ ZY9LNqFmRdpnky7R3GwMVWXR8Mhkuh3jM6hWpZS7w6FoGeH0p0EWt61ohNPzJ7z9M1LN SS8lqHqu6hSxKyhocKKI/X+8KLth1d9s0kLWc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:38:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b01d364ced0494bb5a64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:38:21 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b01d364ced0494bb5a64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10 Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by Paul Muller at ImprovFriday. My looping was done with the setup I took to Y2K this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper. http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-window-2010/ Jim --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001636c5b01d364ced0494bb5a64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10= Favorites' on www.alt-classic= al.com

My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping,= was nominated by Paul Muller at ImprovFriday.=A0 My looping was done with = the setup I took to Y2K this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire De= lay/Looper.

http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-window-2010/
Jim
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from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.=

www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wor= dpress.com
--001636c5b01d364ced0494bb5a64-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 00:01:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB9E83BE95; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=K1VXBdd9dgfnECKV2wiomf0wLes55ZgUwUjNKIoHcI0=; b=Jpy4OiSmSe2BvIlCILQnJuggEH2Yyxh5Ii8aQWAAOhyJmRLi3XgCOL0lg5iGf/RfJP rBvIocmj+MW6ZXyDnW5HPGRz4yhHjTQU6q06rx5+5REiy7JZtZEJL0u9+HpRPt/MgzNE Ml9q3YjIBT4DiO6vXIHgaMLAMHzt+PB7NbRgM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cs5jbaCDPazGajomTVuhW27O8ntAvJZcanaIuRihPlh9P2A1ET7hDGHq6S8asFXGQ2 YkOwIpcaVVEVRG3VoYzbU3h+HkbQWGQhx22flcs9k4q42T875PEztDYLI4FAFEJeT4Vc VEYR45/oNe++tUjsygj1SrJNKAtO+qF8Csye4= Message-ID: <4CDB326F.4080103@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:01:51 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Cool, congrats Jim! Really becomes a different instrument. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for > '09-10 Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com > > My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by > Paul Muller at ImprovFriday. My looping was done with the setup I > took to Y2K this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper. > > http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-window-2010/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 00:05:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 594993BE97; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:05:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WomIke9uQrK2iBVkNo8Q3GMQ6ROvu+8+Ho2DLp3w9eo=; b=x8ooVNZuDbmkhSOn6NoHTIzGkD+5Umi2YLX6TMoRPlWadZVBwi8Ddm5eKm9aAbK8s2 X8dPKfrggBWqnCauzYUbog/SauhIV11V3PzClCEgdnKQlQg/ImYvrlDbHqBbEqtwZOsO IKq/H449+Q4D4897laevrgypUHYgoBRR2Gk8M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SOURp5jksevrCDF6ihx+ci8qldJjeaaiIp2TkSUnZfUTqQq07VWdIFgj5JifErZksG lAtMC5BQ8ubnX34qPrXV6DSUL4RdyOcMteeQD1MKRUuD/15SVYp/aM3WynKWESMTDL+r sF6J0Hhksug4aA2ZT0GkfcWaMO/KrgVG/41ys= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:05:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5c088d6b8320494bbbc63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:05:56 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5c088d6b8320494bbbc63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Softstep users, Finally out of frustration with my Softstep and after e mailing them about returning this item,Jon Short the sales representative told me how to get through him by diling the 0 on their support hotline,since i was angry about not even being able to talk to them personally.So i recomend any of you frustrated SS users to call him and let him know whats going on. After pouring all my frustrations he finally accepted that they had done wrong releasing his device so quickly and unfinished.He himself admitted to being frustrated because he is a user as well. The good news is that they are willing to extend the returns and release updates until we are happy and keep our softsteps.He said they are going to do everything possible to get this thing running properly as quickly as possible.I pointed out that out of neccesity Mark created a softstep user yahoo groups for them to help us but they dont seem to be showing any interest since we havent heard from them. So he apologize and told me to send him the yahoo adress and he was going to have a meeting with the company to setup their forum as soon as possible and get us all going. I also suggested to stay close to several people who are knowledgable about the issues with it and could perhaps do beta testing more effectively,like our dear Jeff Larson, Andy Butler and anybody who is knowledgable and is willing to work with them and get this device functioning the way is supposed to.He was really excited to hear about that and mentioned how valuable the people at loopers delight are to them,since is the smartest mailing list and we all seem to know what other midi controllers have been missing. So he promised to let us all know about their return policy,basically saying we can return it at any time if we arent happy with it and dont want to wait,but he begged me to be patient and stay in close comunication with them as to what the problems are.He said that one fo the problems is that they are overwelmed with support emails and trying to make everybody happy,and when they release an update they improve it but for rushing other things go wrong.He said that the Softstep will be a very deep device and the most awesome of all and with our help is going to make us all happy in the future. I suggested to start making people happy now by stripping down the functionality to the most basic,sending simple midi messages like regular hardware midi controllers in a reliable way without any crashes or glitches and then add from there.he also agreed on this. So any ideas please call them or write them and let them know,im not an expert on midi or beta testing but at least i know they are willing to work with us and want this device to become a success. here is Jons email: jon@keithmcmillen.com and for support talk to sarah: support@keithmcmillen.com if you call wait till the answering machine gives you the options and dile the 0 and talk to Jon,i believe he is there from 9am to 5pm mon through Friday. cheers Luis On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > I'd be happy to hear it to. That's why god invented the OT prefix. > > Besides, I'm sure information about your looping techniques will > necessarily be intwined with the SoftStep functionality. Could be quite > telling! > > (And I just bought one last night.... bottom line, should I cancel or > keep?!) > > > ---Christopher "I-wish-I-took-up-knitting-instead" Darrow > > > On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:50 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > > >> anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline??? > > > > Would you mind, terribly, talking shop online, Zoe? > > I'm fascinated by this product but so far, unconvinced, > > and could benefit from your discussions. > > If you mind, no worries, but I thought I'd ask. > > > > rick > > > > > > --001636c5c088d6b8320494bbbc63 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Softstep users,
Finally out of frustration with my Softstep and aft= er e mailing them about returning this item,Jon Short the sales representat= ive told me how to get through him by diling the 0 on their support hotline= ,since i was angry about not even being able to talk to them personally.So = i recomend any of you frustrated SS users to call him and let him know what= s going on.
After pouring all my frustrations he finally accepted that they had done wr= ong releasing his device so quickly and unfinished.He himself admitted to b= eing frustrated because he is a user as well.
The good news is that they= are willing to extend the returns and release updates until we are happy a= nd keep our softsteps.He said they are going to do everything possible to g= et this thing running properly as quickly as possible.I pointed out that ou= t of neccesity Mark created a softstep user yahoo groups for them to help u= s but they dont seem to be showing any interest since we havent heard from = them.
So he apologize and told me to send him the yahoo adress and he was going t= o have a meeting with the company to setup their forum as soon as possible = and get us all going.
I also suggested to stay close to several people w= ho are knowledgable about the issues with it and could perhaps do beta test= ing more effectively,like our dear Jeff Larson, Andy Butler and anybody who= is knowledgable and is willing to work with them and get this device funct= ioning the way is supposed to.He was really excited to hear about that and = mentioned how valuable the people at loopers delight are to them,since is t= he smartest mailing list and we all seem to know what other midi controller= s have been missing.
So he promised to let us all know about their return policy,basically sayin= g we can return it at any time if we arent happy with it and dont want to w= ait,but he begged me to be patient and stay in close comunication with them= as to what the problems are.He said that one fo the problems is that they = are overwelmed with support emails and trying to make everybody happy,and w= hen they release an update they improve it but for rushing other things go = wrong.He said that the Softstep will be a very deep device and the most awe= some of all and with our help is going to make us all happy in the future.<= br> I suggested to start making people happy now by stripping down the function= ality to the most basic,sending simple midi messages like regular hardware = midi controllers in a reliable way without any crashes or glitches and then= add from there.he also agreed on this.
So any ideas please call them or write them and let them know,im not an exp= ert on midi or beta testing but at least i know they are willing to work wi= th us and want this device to become a success.

here is Jons email: =
jon@keithmcmillen.com

and for support talk to sarah:=20

support@keithmcmillen.com

if you call wait till the answering machine gives = you the options and dile the 0 and talk to Jon,i believe he is there from 9= am to 5pm mon through Friday.

cheers

Luis

<= br>





On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:23 AM= , Christopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd be happy to hear it to. That's why god invented the OT prefix.<= br>
Besides, I'm sure information about your looping techniques will necess= arily be intwined with the SoftStep functionality. Could be quite telling!<= br>
(And I just bought one last night.... bottom line, should I cancel or keep?= !)


---Christopher "I-wish-I-took-up-knitting-instead" Darrow


On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:50 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote:

>> anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline???
>
> Would you mind, terribly, =A0talking shop online, Zoe?
> I'm fascinated by this product but so far, unconvinced,
> and could benefit from your discussions.
> If you mind, no worries, but I thought I'd ask.
>
> rick
>
>


--001636c5c088d6b8320494bbbc63-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 00:35:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EFCB3BE9E; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:35:18 -0800 References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Well, I had some speed bumps setting it up to work with my system and needed some hand-holding from support to make for banks that work just like my four banks on the FCB. Now I'm practicing with it. I am having some difficulty getting the keys to respond, in particular the nav keys that move between banks. I think its because I'm sitting down, and I need to relearn my fancy footwork. If I set the threshold of the pedal to be low, and raise the gain (a setting that amplifies your foot presses), I can get the keys to trigger reliably...but then I run the risk of triggering keys in the bottom row as I reach for the top row. The nav keys (to move between banks) have some kind of trick to it (pressing on the outer edge of the button seems to be the trick), because I can't get that one to go reliably. I need to change banks pretty rapidly and I'm having a bit of difficulty. I'm sure I need to just practice more, which is what I'm doing but I wanted to hear other peeps experience. I'm making live music for live production of Radiolab in DC on Saturday and I would really love to travel with only the SoftStep, but I'm too nervous. On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > I'd be happy to hear it to. That's why god invented the OT prefix. > > Besides, I'm sure information about your looping techniques will > necessarily be intwined with the SoftStep functionality. Could be > quite telling! > > (And I just bought one last night.... bottom line, should I cancel > or keep?!) > > > ---Christopher "I-wish-I-took-up-knitting-instead" Darrow > > > On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:50 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > >>> anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline??? >> >> Would you mind, terribly, talking shop online, Zoe? >> I'm fascinated by this product but so far, unconvinced, >> and could benefit from your discussions. >> If you mind, no worries, but I thought I'd ask. >> >> rick >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 00:44:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 751D83BEA0; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=cqyK0AII8LuOhsNVJ9hk7qey/MsHZG6cakyViPCcPyI=; b=E6gTL4anMZzB3ESF9Gbagtvexfc0uT66sUtqdKLkhHCYaACcqdyOWlqBwZhHPtEwC1 z3Tb+EMAzmnGxDHndHQk8/CActh6e0VsScJ0ip66B3ZBcpRY4QTvu03RLfl2zE40EQaK nCYas/XEq7idWNc/cyX9X+YfB/RYjGhE26XP4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=HKlSlqRGf2EIJUeNgssyTWGQI7d1M+GF31ltrESGEcy+ZUHLLQhTVg4E6QzbzEa8Eg NBH58fWwSpj4rh3ghtg6QX9O/PcmcAPBIbxZqmSBvpp9ODb8F4ebTsTpp7d1fXOXpk05 e9eeD0R3bWCT+zhIIDhdrGJs5ye9q0/2nuyHU= Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Todd Matthews X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:44:23 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: <0bs8F.A.tIE.xxz2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Zoe,=20 I just got my replacement softstep and this one seems to be working = properly now. I've been testing it out and noticed that I have to press in the corner = of the keys to reliably get it to trigger. If I press in the center (no = matter how much pressure) it does not trigger.=20 See if you aim for the corners if it helps you reliably trigger the keys = as well as the nav pad. On Nov 10, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > Well, I had some speed bumps setting it up to work with my system and = needed some hand-holding from support to make for banks that work just = like my four banks on the FCB. >=20 > Now I'm practicing with it. >=20 > I am having some difficulty getting the keys to respond, in particular = the nav keys that move between banks. I think its because I'm sitting = down, and I need to relearn my fancy footwork. If I set the threshold of = the pedal to be low, and raise the gain (a setting that amplifies your = foot presses), I can get the keys to trigger reliably...but then I run = the risk of triggering keys in the bottom row as I reach for the top = row. The nav keys (to move between banks) have some kind of trick to it = (pressing on the outer edge of the button seems to be the trick), = because I can't get that one to go reliably. I need to change banks = pretty rapidly and I'm having a bit of difficulty. >=20 > I'm sure I need to just practice more, which is what I'm doing but I = wanted to hear other peeps experience. I'm making live music for live = production of Radiolab in DC on Saturday and I would really love to = travel with only the SoftStep, but I'm too nervous. >=20 >=20 > On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> I'd be happy to hear it to. That's why god invented the OT prefix. >>=20 >> Besides, I'm sure information about your looping techniques will = necessarily be intwined with the SoftStep functionality. Could be quite = telling! >>=20 >> (And I just bought one last night.... bottom line, should I cancel or = keep?!) >>=20 >>=20 >> ---Christopher "I-wish-I-took-up-knitting-instead" Darrow >>=20 >>=20 >> On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:50 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: >>=20 >>>> anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline??? >>>=20 >>> Would you mind, terribly, talking shop online, Zoe? >>> I'm fascinated by this product but so far, unconvinced, >>> and could benefit from your discussions. >>> If you mind, no worries, but I thought I'd ask. >>>=20 >>> rick >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 01:07:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DB573BE95; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sYDyOVcF7rg80NWx9MGdVL9fM5wgdF9a70IDV/q5Wbo=; b=Av6TILbJ8onUQCuVodlgp1ezp2PQV2S7R6oLl8v4zpeB4Qp5sN27lKFntd+wnwxA68 K4R4ujF4/Lg9g9GZ/6dKSKr2h5Oxh6ag8QuN0hcMMcSnDEuKrGsXBjarrHUVKyzjBRnl x8fhQ6iDA8RvyTwUVSrwb0Hgk9x34DMzZWHXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TatdnRGv92SimzJBzvNG8m4mzKGgpufLja4dF2hHhy+OvSUIo1wp+CnmHU/2etvTUT 4WWj1A4rLu2S4pfvpN6Py5dLvmEOe6xnhIlzlvjI0xxRgVXQJkZyBLCLbBVeFTJXeuNP TzKT61i/z//HxoiShOFlb2OFQvEyDLnIv8MmM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CDB326F.4080103@gmail.com> References: <4CDB326F.4080103@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:07:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a5d1a10d0c0494bc9773 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:07:07 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a5d1a10d0c0494bc9773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daryl thanks... J On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Cool, congrats Jim! Really becomes a different instrument. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > > I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10 >> Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com >> >> >> My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by Paul >> Muller at ImprovFriday. My looping was done with the setup I took to Y2= K >> this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper. >> >> http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-window-2010/ >> > > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a5d1a10d0c0494bc9773 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daryl thanks...

J

On Wed, Nov 10, = 2010 at 7:01 PM, Daryl Shawn <darylshawn@gmail.com> wrote:
Cool, congrats Jim! Really becomes a different instrument.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com<= /a>

I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10= Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com <http://www.alt-classical.com>


My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by = Paul Muller at ImprovFriday. =A0My looping was done with the setup I took t= o Y2K this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper.

http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-windo= w-2010/




--
From Brooklyn To Glindr= an, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 P= roceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandca= mp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wo= rdpress.com
--20cf3054a5d1a10d0c0494bc9773-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 01:23:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEEEA3BE8C; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:23:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=82PAxEU04JQsMVG4c02paFdMu+SvGsW79k2U6sSSMh0=; b=nQZfAKiYp4Es45Cgw8Hw2rWRkD4XP9b3EHGtg4Afg+Lx6AOyZd8UXsdExvdnmG4U8t j8cl3BHlVS0B9uUWpN4BroDcnyAetuepRHItMQzVCcTSAc3tvwhsbAE/1/ca2k9ALGB2 Up/lPV90/C7T38gR5ULdrdOmo+kryiL0rJXGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XHaM+jMAxZlpfFjdP+WmjAIi2UBkPNaTpTmDGlW3hiOZ0fxFAgpxVWbbd32S3cubGF c0xPwARUwe3XbS02nefWvCZMFTOP4GdTREt060Sv8NuevPZur/A949TKb7mJ8wRxG2NF Ic1itWnsj1WdhZlr66eeF+wUZl+UT3APEz6VA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> <3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:23:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56af085fb730494bcd317 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:23:50 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd56af085fb730494bcd317 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 rule: never be the first person to buy anything. - jim On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Zoe, > > I just got my replacement softstep and this one seems to be working > properly now. > > I've been testing it out and noticed that I have to press in the corner of > the keys to reliably get it to trigger. If I press in the center (no matter > how much pressure) it does not trigger. > > See if you aim for the corners if it helps you reliably trigger the keys as > well as the nav pad. > > > On Nov 10, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > > > Well, I had some speed bumps setting it up to work with my system and > needed some hand-holding from support to make for banks that work just like > my four banks on the FCB. > > > > Now I'm practicing with it. > > > > I am having some difficulty getting the keys to respond, in particular > the nav keys that move between banks. I think its because I'm sitting down, > and I need to relearn my fancy footwork. If I set the threshold of the pedal > to be low, and raise the gain (a setting that amplifies your foot presses), > I can get the keys to trigger reliably...but then I run the risk of > triggering keys in the bottom row as I reach for the top row. The nav keys > (to move between banks) have some kind of trick to it (pressing on the outer > edge of the button seems to be the trick), because I can't get that one to > go reliably. I need to change banks pretty rapidly and I'm having a bit of > difficulty. > > > > I'm sure I need to just practice more, which is what I'm doing but I > wanted to hear other peeps experience. I'm making live music for live > production of Radiolab in DC on Saturday and I would really love to travel > with only the SoftStep, but I'm too nervous. > > > > > > On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > > >> > >> I'd be happy to hear it to. That's why god invented the OT prefix. > >> > >> Besides, I'm sure information about your looping techniques will > necessarily be intwined with the SoftStep functionality. Could be quite > telling! > >> > >> (And I just bought one last night.... bottom line, should I cancel or > keep?!) > >> > >> > >> ---Christopher "I-wish-I-took-up-knitting-instead" Darrow > >> > >> > >> On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:50 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > >> > >>>> anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline??? > >>> > >>> Would you mind, terribly, talking shop online, Zoe? > >>> I'm fascinated by this product but so far, unconvinced, > >>> and could benefit from your discussions. > >>> If you mind, no worries, but I thought I'd ask. > >>> > >>> rick > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > --000e0cd56af085fb730494bcd317 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rule: never be the first person to buy anything.=A0

- jim

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail= .com> wrote:
Zoe,

I just got my replacement softstep and this one seems to be working properl= y now.

I've been testing it out and noticed that I have to press in the corner= of the keys to reliably get it to trigger. If I press in the center (no ma= tter how much pressure) it does not trigger.

See if you aim for the corners if it helps you reliably trigger the keys as= well as the nav pad.


On Nov 10, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Zoe Keating wrote:

> Well, I had some speed bumps setting it up to work with my system and = needed some hand-holding from support to make for banks that work just like= my four banks on the FCB.
>
> Now I'm practicing with it.
>
> I am having some difficulty getting the keys to respond, in particular= the nav keys that move between banks. I think its because I'm sitting = down, and I need to relearn my fancy footwork. If I set the threshold of th= e pedal to be low, and raise the gain (a setting that amplifies your foot p= resses), I can get the keys to trigger reliably...but then I run the risk o= f triggering keys in the bottom row as I reach for the top row. The nav key= s (to move between banks) have some kind of trick to it (pressing on the ou= ter edge of the button seems to be the trick), because I can't get that= one to go reliably. I need to change banks pretty rapidly and I'm havi= ng a bit of difficulty.
>
> I'm sure I need to just practice more, which is what I'm doing= but I wanted to hear other peeps experience. I'm making live music for= live production of Radiolab in DC on Saturday and I would really love to t= ravel with only the SoftStep, but I'm too nervous.
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote:
>
>>
>> I'd be happy to hear it to. That's why god invented the OT= prefix.
>>
>> Besides, I'm sure information about your looping techniques wi= ll necessarily be intwined with the SoftStep functionality. Could be quite = telling!
>>
>> (And I just bought one last night.... bottom line, should I cancel= or keep?!)
>>
>>
>> ---Christopher "I-wish-I-took-up-knitting-instead" Darro= w
>>
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:50 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote:
>>
>>>> anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline??? >>>
>>> Would you mind, terribly, =A0talking shop online, Zoe?
>>> I'm fascinated by this product but so far, unconvinced, >>> and could benefit from your discussions.
>>> If you mind, no worries, but I thought I'd ask.
>>>
>>> rick
>>>
>>>
>>
>


--000e0cd56af085fb730494bcd317-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 01:44:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E88A63BE92; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:44:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:44:15 +0000 (UTC) There you go! Congrats Jim Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 02:04:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 250F33BE91; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 02:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lbf6GaiW/FjA/+6uve1N+LYUvTocQz6M3n7svH0VMwM=; b=vOobz0BAPKd7qD8FN6y6AoAq6iBZwTwNvJ8TZzfhCfjjGp+qQ+O2DBjP8DSaYwKDD2 2LHJZ0tardIMqRXqwdJ+MT2hsvBVTi2gLhSR/LIn9JdsRznmwlW0R2Ig9oT/rDQPuM92 n4K6xtQ+Q3PGisCr1j4CtQSJPlG/ROr9Qp4Hk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OrKn9TNL/gVUOh/sDLN8d+jA3ktzO5sz27iLIu3y5Z1BVJ8qpcoKgYGGd/+3bohVVK oqE3iUNClSN23COIIfqI8qCWu7mxrpb/o6aGn8pEnV3Ehyy+apk6xwAIS7tpHMzsRO5F fq8wLPnesycge2NNurmw8UkY5zaWvDj3bqAuI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CDB326F.4080103@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 03:04:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b7e3e5dd60c0494bd641c Resent-Message-ID: <0WwlnB.A.5ZF.l802MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 02:04:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b7e3e5dd60c0494bd641c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great news! congrats jim :) 2010/11/11 Jim Goodin > Daryl thanks... > > J > > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote= : > >> Cool, congrats Jim! Really becomes a different instrument. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> >> I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10 >>> Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com >>> >>> >>> My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by Paul >>> Muller at ImprovFriday. My looping was done with the setup I took to Y= 2K >>> this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper. >>> >>> http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-window-2010/ >>> >> >> > > > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " http://raulbonell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com --0016363b7e3e5dd60c0494bd641c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great news! congrats jim :)

2010/11/11 Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
Daryl thanks...

J


On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:= 01 PM, Daryl Shawn <darylshawn@gmail.com> wrote:
Cool, congrats Jim! Really becomes a different instrument.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com<= /a>

I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10= Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com <http://www.alt-classical.com>


My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by = Paul Muller at ImprovFriday. =A0My looping was done with the setup I took t= o Y2K this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper.

http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-windo= w-2010/




--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz rec= ording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of t= his CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.=

www.jimgood= inmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com



--
=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D
I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que e= stava il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda = de m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sti= es!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? &q= uot;

http://raulb= onell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016363b7e3e5dd60c0494bd641c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 02:23:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E67A3BE8D; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 02:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--250108026 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:23:40 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <8AFIxB.A.MsF.zO12MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 02:23:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--250108026 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy said One thing that the Looperlative does which helps this is that once you have a footswitch set up to do an 8th replace it responds in an interesting way to multiple taps. It will automatically do as many replaces as you do taps with a gap between each. That makes it very easy to get some kind of recognizable rhythm happening. I found this out by not being able to control my habit of double tapping, having not been raised on a sus command machine like the EDP, I've always gotten used to replace being a function you had to punch in and out of, and realizing I had just added two sus replace notes. So Andy am I to understand that you were the guy who conceived of 8th replace function on the EDP? For those just tuning in it is the inspiration for the quantize replace feature on the Looperlative, and can also be found in Mobius and Matthias' new EvoLoop which i saw the prototype of and was really excited by. So my question, can you set the EDP's 8th replace function to a variety of different beat divisions like you can on the LP-1? I really love using this technique over an 12, 10 or 9 beat subdivision, in addition to my most often used 16. The looperlative's ability to go as high as a subdivision of 128 makes it really interesting for crazy glitching over a short loop length. Bill --Apple-Mail-1--250108026 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy said One thing that the Looperlative does which helps this = is that once you have a footswitch set up to do an 8th replace
it = responds in an interesting way to multiple taps.
It will = automatically
do as many replaces as you do taps with a gap between = each.
That makes it very easy to get some kind of recognizable rhythm = happening.
 I found this out by not being able to control my = habit of double tapping, having not been raised on a sus command machine = like the EDP, I've always  gotten used to replace being a function = you had to punch in and out of,  and realizing I had just added two = sus replace notes. So Andy am I to understand that you were the guy who = conceived of  8th replace function on the EDP?  For those just = tuning in it  is the inspiration for the quantize replace feature = on the Looperlative, and can also be found in Mobius and Matthias' new = EvoLoop which i saw the prototype of and was really excited by. So my = question, can you set the EDP's 8th replace function to a variety of = different beat divisions like you can on the LP-1?  I really love = using this technique over an 12, 10 or 9 beat subdivision, in addition = to my most often used 16. The looperlative's ability to go as high as a = subdivision of 128 makes it really interesting for crazy glitching over = a short loop length.
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-1--250108026-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 02:26:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 239593BE95; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 02:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=YQ+zT02nzQl3h6D77CvlyMD+Mu9P3EiJTcdORadzh64=; b=Q8sWHlszyHc1892F7Bb6DlN/P0GF6y6HzK27z0ttHXmCMGPNTskAYLdDAuf5K11y5p 3YYZWW/n08DvprqZD1UBPIzEuPCAmzhxTO9fq4qZtht9gDIR167jKXqQ/ZMQSz89qdRQ IAdf7rRSckVYjImImS4WfDQiT993HTtNnS8YE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=KjQJ0EnGv6TLSHa7/TGJnIoi/qTCLhL79xkFWvVesHltSBwTdo/clyxA8m/c5lN9/i k2UxI6loCAQ5MPSovl2UgKLLnWCzOY0hOqIveT7nDoyih6xy8KBHrstZvChdBraBj1pM dQbcIOEnaVZUMFjFQVsIaafClUniiV/IBE3yM= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--249937840 Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 21:26:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> <3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> Message-Id: <98178BD2-2145-4B96-AE90-B30F6663437A@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 02:26:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--249937840 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Note to self: Listen to Jim :) -Todd Matthews On Nov 10, 2010, at 8:23 PM, james fowler wrote: > rule: never be the first person to buy anything. =20 >=20 > - jim >=20 > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Todd Matthews = wrote: > Zoe, >=20 > I just got my replacement softstep and this one seems to be working = properly now. >=20 > I've been testing it out and noticed that I have to press in the = corner of the keys to reliably get it to trigger. If I press in the = center (no matter how much pressure) it does not trigger. >=20 > See if you aim for the corners if it helps you reliably trigger the = keys as well as the nav pad. >=20 >=20 > On Nov 10, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: >=20 > > Well, I had some speed bumps setting it up to work with my system = and needed some hand-holding from support to make for banks that work = just like my four banks on the FCB. > > > > Now I'm practicing with it. > > > > I am having some difficulty getting the keys to respond, in = particular the nav keys that move between banks. I think its because I'm = sitting down, and I need to relearn my fancy footwork. If I set the = threshold of the pedal to be low, and raise the gain (a setting that = amplifies your foot presses), I can get the keys to trigger = reliably...but then I run the risk of triggering keys in the bottom row = as I reach for the top row. The nav keys (to move between banks) have = some kind of trick to it (pressing on the outer edge of the button seems = to be the trick), because I can't get that one to go reliably. I need to = change banks pretty rapidly and I'm having a bit of difficulty. > > > > I'm sure I need to just practice more, which is what I'm doing but I = wanted to hear other peeps experience. I'm making live music for live = production of Radiolab in DC on Saturday and I would really love to = travel with only the SoftStep, but I'm too nervous. > > > > > > On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > > >> > >> I'd be happy to hear it to. That's why god invented the OT prefix. > >> > >> Besides, I'm sure information about your looping techniques will = necessarily be intwined with the SoftStep functionality. Could be quite = telling! > >> > >> (And I just bought one last night.... bottom line, should I cancel = or keep?!) > >> > >> > >> ---Christopher "I-wish-I-took-up-knitting-instead" Darrow > >> > >> > >> On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:50 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > >> > >>>> anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline??? > >>> > >>> Would you mind, terribly, talking shop online, Zoe? > >>> I'm fascinated by this product but so far, unconvinced, > >>> and could benefit from your discussions. > >>> If you mind, no worries, but I thought I'd ask. > >>> > >>> rick > >>> > >>> > >> > > >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--249937840 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Note to self:   Listen to Jim

 :)

-Todd Matthews
On Nov 10, 2010, at 8:23 PM, james fowler wrote:

rule: never be the first person to buy anything. 

- jim

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
Zoe,

I just got my replacement softstep and this one seems to be working properly now.

I've been testing it out and noticed that I have to press in the corner of the keys to reliably get it to trigger. If I press in the center (no matter how much pressure) it does not trigger.

See if you aim for the corners if it helps you reliably trigger the keys as well as the nav pad.


On Nov 10, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Zoe Keating wrote:

> Well, I had some speed bumps setting it up to work with my system and needed some hand-holding from support to make for banks that work just like my four banks on the FCB.
>
> Now I'm practicing with it.
>
> I am having some difficulty getting the keys to respond, in particular the nav keys that move between banks. I think its because I'm sitting down, and I need to relearn my fancy footwork. If I set the threshold of the pedal to be low, and raise the gain (a setting that amplifies your foot presses), I can get the keys to trigger reliably...but then I run the risk of triggering keys in the bottom row as I reach for the top row. The nav keys (to move between banks) have some kind of trick to it (pressing on the outer edge of the button seems to be the trick), because I can't get that one to go reliably. I need to change banks pretty rapidly and I'm having a bit of difficulty.
>
> I'm sure I need to just practice more, which is what I'm doing but I wanted to hear other peeps experience. I'm making live music for live production of Radiolab in DC on Saturday and I would really love to travel with only the SoftStep, but I'm too nervous.
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote:
>
>>
>> I'd be happy to hear it to. That's why god invented the OT prefix.
>>
>> Besides, I'm sure information about your looping techniques will necessarily be intwined with the SoftStep functionality. Could be quite telling!
>>
>> (And I just bought one last night.... bottom line, should I cancel or keep?!)
>>
>>
>> ---Christopher "I-wish-I-took-up-knitting-instead" Darrow
>>
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:50 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote:
>>
>>>> anyone using the softstep and wanna talk shop offline???
>>>
>>> Would you mind, terribly,  talking shop online, Zoe?
>>> I'm fascinated by this product but so far, unconvinced,
>>> and could benefit from your discussions.
>>> If you mind, no worries, but I thought I'd ask.
>>>
>>> rick
>>>
>>>
>>
>



--Apple-Mail-1--249937840-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 02:36:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F86D3BE98; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 02:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WEkDEG7OE0aIUHOb2GGb034Hs8YMOdfYaBk220i1XcI=; b=DY0JGQbCMZvZqAYVFR+I/9UwV6RZRtqrLpfypqJTvv0zCXNn6yCOaOkOcbEsG/GchN Q8OywodDBOiX+lQ/R0DLannOR4iSO2K4mbFXDCmII4miDJrCgyiQPubHacJ4Q/t0Yvoy MKhmb6xMqNnlAojJsgCKJVEzLUSsknMDajEPU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=S9U88YNTRLXndCfY7V3RBPKdNICGenXZfn64cRrr6MaEW/yUQmYswTcODRJMZgJaQI O4NtptGvsWWdMNO5DmrD6rdvY+G8TB7lB/NeXDsQmMh53ZZIKLmG5D5Lq5Jvy+fKGe+D HshJENzg1odEPUuLnYDRFTSMgIbW8bIuZhHDw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 21:36:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30434d4a6998480494bdd7e0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 02:36:32 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30434d4a6998480494bdd7e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Way to go my friend! Great track! J On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10 > Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com > > My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by Paul > Muller at ImprovFriday. My looping was done with the setup I took to Y2K > this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper. > > http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-window-2010/ > > Jim > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --20cf30434d4a6998480494bdd7e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Way to go my friend! Great track!

J

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
I was pleased to = have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10 Favorites' o= n www.alt-classi= cal.com

My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated= by Paul Muller at ImprovFriday.=A0 My looping was done with the setup I to= ok to Y2K this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper.
http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-w= indow-2010/

Jim
--
= >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &a= mp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn= .bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com

--20cf30434d4a6998480494bdd7e0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 03:55:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 410DA3BE8D; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 03:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mOPSBqIyz6wjEam2WJTyZQcuyGKXErLUXBHrRgl/frc=; b=algsGtlrsQH9rjPcQWGJGwgALdmJqCBMMKyJe72jEel2TLnT5/dii0sn+PqK7Q0VpD yWr3R7hzXb0HuFB4RvHGdmN5dcq+onud8tXOTCKx3Zzr6cOtUBBYIeyGjFxNZDOMnDUr 5QfLz7S0MR01E2Ayn1Yv/+DHEE93hRfWUmLPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YPq37tDUmmC/PInn0uqNwrqBEJyU5c1C273ChFxFen7EONPepFzQ09AQxCFwuFNfBO PYLtrjws0IcorIpwRZpe5iejHwqVLksYmc7RE8ZPR05G4ONZcqLK4lihhm9unoRulWB5 nAnJXQ7hZGfBf/rv6q6Li3DXHKaTHh7c0VOmw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <98178BD2-2145-4B96-AE90-B30F6663437A@gmail.com> References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> <3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> <98178BD2-2145-4B96-AE90-B30F6663437A@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:55:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db7c6ae4c71c0494bef023 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 03:55:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db7c6ae4c71c0494bef023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I can say "yes" I used it successfully. I LOVE the feel of the pedal. I noticed that my timing (when looping) is way better than with a FCB1010 or the EFC-7, and without the audible noise of the pedal being pressed (esp the FCB... kachunk!). I like it A LOT better than either of those controllers. I had the software figured out within a day and had no problems controlling my EDP's. My presets were basic: send a note value to each EDP with "Foot On". I messed around controlling the feedback with CC values too. I'm looking forward to controlling my midiverb's too. Only made one scene so far, so not much experience with the nav keys. I also noticed that they required more pressure, but I stand and play so not a big deal for me. The biggest drawback for me is that it doesn't work in standalone mode, i.e. for the pedal to work it must be plugged into a computer with the SoftStep software running............... WHAT? Garg... that's like buying an "electric" car and finding out that it ALWAYS needs to be plugged in to work. Pff... I'm holding out hope that their promises ring true. I think that they will, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Peace, Adam --0016e6db7c6ae4c71c0494bef023 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can say "yes" I used it successfully. =A0I LOVE the feel of the= pedal. =A0I noticed that my timing (when looping) is way better than with = a FCB1010 or the EFC-7, and without the audible noise of the pedal being pr= essed (esp the FCB... kachunk!). =A0I like it A LOT better than either of t= hose controllers. =A0I had the software figured out within a day and had no= problems controlling my EDP's. =A0My presets were basic: send a note v= alue to each EDP with "Foot On". I messed around controlling the = feedback with CC values too.

I'm looking forward to controlling my midiverb's too= . Only made one scene so far, so not much experience with the nav keys. I a= lso noticed that they required more pressure, but I stand and play so not a= big deal for me. =A0

The biggest drawback for me is that it doesn't work in s= tandalone mode, i.e. for the pedal to work it must be plugged into a comput= er with the SoftStep software running............... WHAT? =A0Garg... that&= #39;s like buying an "electric" car and finding out that it ALWAY= S needs to be plugged in to work. =A0Pff...

I'm holding out hope that their promises ring= true. =A0I think that they will, so I guess we'll just have to wait an= d see.

Peace,
Adam

--0016e6db7c6ae4c71c0494bef023-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 04:00:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4D9C3BE91; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 04:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9RZvTnG/crmdsDl3qaPBQZ1fSMxRrINc8AhYU9Mz6Ww=; b=dX/QY3+QgfgxKro+a8PKxMF+rDD6puWuWLmkcgWRs+H2EsUeErqAjxWpBu169rrYZZ 9VG/IsDfjqtOlspBaG+aOso4bKrHu/Fe4JAMxLghPdM6dIssGhkTg9yW2MFgBxbCf02a ZTMxHIvqbsSLD/H9xLSPxpqDt9DYStq+LfPRc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sIAEgUX+SRE3HXcOqtJmIAfVDmk91TmzkFh2y9WzmwNyvjlfiLahfALI2t+I1PwJ7Y K6j/asvsOTGvjVMipt5zroGy3p+hTtLkZmB67y8H4XGSk4GTIOBs+EgQQCVt5jstvQ3T PhJnXqPVPRtN6jDAhGpMuO5wXO70UJHoFY5Xc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:00:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: CGT Live now on Ustream From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549f1f0b61b40494bf0546 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 04:00:53 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549f1f0b61b40494bf0546 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 They have been known to loop a bit! California Guitar Trio! Now going live real soon it looks like. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/xo-live j --20cf30549f1f0b61b40494bf0546 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 They have been known to loop a bit!
California Guitar Trio!
Now going live real soon it looks like.


http://www.ustream.tv/channel/xo-live

j



--20cf30549f1f0b61b40494bf0546-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 04:01:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8AC23BE98; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 04:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:01:21 -0800 References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> <3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> <98178BD2-2145-4B96-AE90-B30F6663437A@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <6xSlRB.A.C9H.Uq22MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 04:01:24 +0000 (UTC) yay! when I stay within a scene, I can use the keys just fine and i agree.... looping is better and easier than with the FCB. i just need to make my scene changes go easier, and to figure out how not to brush the lower keys with my foot and set them off. thinking i might make a rubber wedge to tilt it up. overall, i'm going to push through because its totally worth the effort. also, keith and co are very responsive to user feedback. z On Nov 10, 2010, at 7:55 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > I can say "yes" I used it successfully. I LOVE the feel of the > pedal. I noticed that my timing (when looping) is way better than > with a FCB1010 or the EFC-7, and without the audible noise of the > pedal being pressed (esp the FCB... kachunk!). I like it A LOT > better than either of those controllers. I had the software figured > out within a day and had no problems controlling my EDP's. My > presets were basic: send a note value to each EDP with "Foot On". I > messed around controlling the feedback with CC values too. > > I'm looking forward to controlling my midiverb's too. Only made one > scene so far, so not much experience with the nav keys. I also > noticed that they required more pressure, but I stand and play so > not a big deal for me. > > The biggest drawback for me is that it doesn't work in standalone > mode, i.e. for the pedal to work it must be plugged into a computer > with the SoftStep software running............... WHAT? Garg... > that's like buying an "electric" car and finding out that it ALWAYS > needs to be plugged in to work. Pff... > > I'm holding out hope that their promises ring true. I think that > they will, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see. > > Peace, > Adam > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 04:48:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E99063BE8D; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 04:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> <3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> <98178BD2-2145-4B96-AE90-B30F6663437A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <2221E095-C2C8-4E7A-9A3A-450139CF50EF@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:48:52 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 04:48:56 +0000 (UTC) > On Nov 10, 2010, at 9:55 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > I LOVE the feel of the pedal. Interesting. So far I HATE the feel of the pedal, or rather the lack thereof. There is absolutely zero tactile feedback especially if you are wearing shoes. I'm accustomed with mechanical pedals to lightly resting my foot on the pedal to make sure I'm on it, then pressing it when ready. You have to carefully adjust the sensitivity of each pad so they don't misfire. But if the pads aren't sensitive enough they won't trigger so I tend to overcompensate and really stomp on them. I guess we should view this like an "instrument" that we have to learn to "play" but at the moment I find myself thinking way to hard about getting an accurate press. I wish the back row of pads were raised slightly. Not as much as the FCB but enough so you can feel which row you're over. Maybe I just need to ditch the Birkenstocks and invest in some thin pointy looping shoes. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 05:24:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 623223BE92; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05e901cb8160$a96fefc0$6400a8c0@vulcan> From: "d.nix" To: References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com><553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com><3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 21:24:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:24:27 +0000 (UTC) WORD. I hope you all get a working and usable device/system out of this, and soon. I learned the hard way with propriatary computer graphics hardware and software... You never want to pay for the privelege of being a beta tester for something you are depending on for your livelyhood... > rule: never be the first person to buy anything. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 08:06:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 552943BE92; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LOPtwdbz/cPFyRhUQQFa7X+cJiFcbbUYmjgnTqDz7Ss=; b=EfnlQx+tNgM+uupVQgLWUi3I5jA9AFE47byzRW4oIh3mR06l3JINq4naHMTGzAg7zM tAlYRILvZpWg0m3sJYa0gIi5h7iDiLycddlCejGBQFAqYpbJkKcMmu0KkVx5UG9/S/fa 9QhjEbSO5SRrPDPWYQfvt8bPK9VnvJsuGV7Ew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=i1vgPW53hnMtZ3MYc7SGPvRofJ6E2bAszcXYsaFmgKz8bqUYF1GBunp2GqMTNPxQ6B iSokJErS/ny+B2KEU4QtOhdWHtaKGYS4TgMUfnIMOO3Y6StQmpDRxMHBa38dbfFqmmLr bDQrB5p7qY3MYra2hWLFbXK4hE64IOpdO8ue8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:06:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <9geSG.A.uxE.VQ62MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:06:45 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:23 AM, William Walker wrote: > can you set the EDP's 8th replace function to a variety of different beat > divisions like you can on the LP-1? That's where a MID Program Change pedal comes in handy! Use it to swap between EDP programs while performing. You set up the EDP with different programs that differ in the 8th setting. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 08:52:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 246293BE98; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=a8ajAwF/8joEHNUCGPZ2c77hQcf9qvsjVXWx5H4WIgc=; b=MlQSEz09Hn/sOvHTj8Sb904oBQ+McR9x7rWnXcUNFntr7dA+7uk3vknhLNICvsD/vd 6jjC6CXVygSpFvir0xphtLns8XThqvI0TetRZS8zaf56eVXw3H5NJ9SGX2qDPbvlVb8M r1TdMsmL1dTwoZCMNJSF/v4OL52KL8azVAO8Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Xp+4YBEY/YZSQ4TppH7L+wCL8CIIR4xUt2i3ogVTEN1GgU5Pbhtirz30sZh5hGhjij w3wQ83fm0nkyH0ofwSoIq04wbiYTNRr6/YN4IBA4XDnpmH+hBRyCCzaM2mqh+ALq8nAV G9FR/f8juj+LvvIokzybdZl3+58KgC3fpG8xU= References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:52:44 +0100 Message-ID: <-7670568118445601407@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3lEAyB.A.IoF.N762MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 11 Nov 2010, at 09:06, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:23 AM, William Walker wrote: >> can you set the EDP's 8th replace function to a variety of different beat >> divisions like you can on the LP-1? > > That's where a MID Program Change pedal comes in handy! Use it to swap > between EDP programs while performing. You set up the EDP with > different programs that differ in the 8th setti Problem with that technique is that you have to waste basically Identical presets on differing 8ths. I'm experimenting on the softstep to send a couple of notes one after each other to virtually press the parameter button then the 8ths setting... > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 09:22:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8E953BE90; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 530923923/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.42/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.42 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwBAEtE20xV0rsq/2dsb2JhbAAHlD3OYYVKBI1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,181,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="530923923" Message-ID: <4CDBB5EB.8010507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:22:51 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Audio Adapter Query References: <20101110011711.403473BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> <4CDB041B.5000508@tiscali.co.uk> <4CDB04E3.4070800@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4CDB04E3.4070800@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > andy butler schrieb: >> So, you just plug the backpack direct into the Sonica. >> >> It *should* then be possible to hear the Sonica through the left >> speaker of the backpack. >> >> If you can't then one of those two items is faulty. > Or the Sonica uses the "Boss DD20 jack detector", as described. > > The "jack detector" circuit is probably just that one half of the power supply is connected to the "ring" contact on a stereo socket. So that inserting a mono plug switches on the power. That wouldn't be useful for the Sonica, for the obvious reason. Or, at least, that's what I'd expect. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 09:54:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B00A03BE90; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 531147540/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.42/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.42 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwBAH5M20xV0rsq/2dsb2JhbAAHlD3Oa4VKBI1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,182,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="531147540" Message-ID: <4CDBBD4E.1010601@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:54:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> <3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Calm down now folks. It's common for new products like this to reveal difficulties when they go out to live loopers. When I first received the Little Giant it also had problems, ...which Xavier fixed very quickly. Keith McMillen is unlikely to rest much until everything is sorted. andy james fowler wrote: > rule: never be the first person to buy anything. > > - jim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 10:16:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EF023BE95; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=pZRTiPBYP/3aJdggN4GIRgI3MoaFoubIUemtn0+KQ3M=; b=vPOg4h/i4xNNRMz9EtS95zv5K15N6VwWOl0hW4okQIz8QndzR9GYgCcVDzrT0ZqUwO MhwvlcyCGLcsf2SkCQXTfUSx9svieF2J4WHGGz0K7Ns+xT6zKwmKbYOfxWT7zKyrr8tr OpOkkj/299rYBFw2XX39r+ZiuEZViKQSbyOzw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=fhtFAonfc+BbVJYnnuSixQxpf1z70Li8NSIeoX1siLd8+91p5ixZgGWTEv5Gipv2GN MpAYD10iY4qWOs1o+RoZotQtIjgUeSZiFL7qA9v0FjkALoZBkxTVaOH6e6D+/NokhrkD F3xPWg6DamoAtXs3f+FXVnHSBYogf0tEM+23k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4CDBBD4E.1010601@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> <3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> <4CDBBD4E.1010601@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:15:49 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TwHoYIQZzvTn_r8CZdlqXb0JmZM Message-ID: Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549c533a28600494c4438e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:16:11 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549c533a28600494c4438e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here here... One of the reasons that I started the Yahoo list was because I realised that a new product such as this would need a focused group to put together priorities and needs. As users we tend to moan, oh when will it be out , why isnt it released when they said it would be, and then when it doe= s come out, oh why isnt it working perfectly? I have NO DOUBT that all the software troubles WILL be fixed... Heres mine: I personally still have a problem with how the pedal feels, I discovered thru this process that I need a click. Im actually tallking to a performanc= e artist friend who uses a lot of midi triggered sensor, as to whether one could make a midi triggered solenoid "clicker". I have gotten the EDP=B4s to work, but like Zoe and Jeff I have issues with accidentaly triggering buttons cos Ive set them too sensetive... ... and I have an issues with not being able to select any scenes that I havent made myself. (but suspect that its just a display issue, and that in actual fact the scene IS selected. I have played with controlling CC parameters on Fireworx... lots of fun.. but unusable in NORMAL musical sense... and also like Zoe, I have it fireing off random commands once in a while (like stopping a loop of going into overdub, or multiply, without telling me) This and the first point are my biggests issues today, this one can be fixed... the first, about the feel of the pads.. may be a deal breaker... BTW... This discussion should be really on the Yahoo list to keep the information there for KMM to see (they are reading that list now) But as they are also reading THIS list I guess it really doesnt matter... But I will be creating a general SoftStep Errors Document there soon... or if someone else wants to organise that I can make them a moderator.. infact you can all be moderators for all I care ha ha! Mark On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:54 AM, andy butler wrote= : > Calm down now folks. > > It's common for new products like this to reveal difficulties > when they go out to live loopers. > > When I first received the Little Giant it also had problems, > ...which Xavier fixed very quickly. > > Keith McMillen is unlikely to rest much until everything is sorted. > > > andy > > > > > > > james fowler wrote: > >> rule: never be the first person to buy anything. >> - jim >> >> > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549c533a28600494c4438e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here here... One of the reasons that I started the Yahoo list was because I= realised that a new product such as this would need a focused group to put= together priorities and needs. As users we tend to moan, oh when will it b= e out , why isnt it released when they said it would be, and then when it d= oes come out, oh why isnt it working perfectly?

I have NO DOUBT that all the software troubles WILL be fixed...
Heres mine:

I personally still have a problem with how the pedal fe= els, I discovered thru this process that I need a click. Im actually tallki= ng to a performance artist friend who uses a lot of midi triggered sensor, = as to whether one could make a midi triggered solenoid "clicker".=

I have gotten the EDP=B4s to work, but like Zoe and Jeff I have issues = with accidentaly triggering buttons cos Ive set them too sensetive...
... and I have an issues with not being able to select any scenes that I = havent made myself. (but suspect that its just a display issue, and that in= actual fact the scene IS selected.

I have played with controlling CC parameters on Fireworx... lots of fun= .. but unusable in NORMAL musical sense...

and also like Zoe, I have= it fireing off random commands once in a while (like stopping a loop of go= ing into overdub, or multiply, without telling me) This and the first point= are my biggests issues today, this one can be fixed... the first, about th= e feel of the pads.. may be a deal breaker...

BTW...

This discussion should be really on the Yahoo list to kee= p the information there for KMM to see (they are reading that list now) But= as they are also reading THIS list I guess it really doesnt matter...

But I will be creating a general SoftStep Errors Document there soon...= or if someone else wants to organise that I can make them a moderator.. in= fact you can all be moderators for all I care ha ha!

Mark




On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:54 AM, an= dy butler <a= kbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Calm down now folks.

It's common for new products like this to reveal difficulties
when they go out to live loopers.

When I first received the Little Giant it also had problems,
...which Xavier fixed very quickly.

Keith McMillen is unlikely to rest much until everything is sorted.


andy






james fowler wrote:
rule: never be the first person to buy anything.
- jim





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--20cf30549c533a28600494c4438e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 10:40:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 324E93BE97; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 530980016/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.42/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.42 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwBAAtX20xV0rsq/2dsb2JhbAAHlD7PEYVKBI1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,182,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="530980016" Message-ID: <4CDBC822.7040102@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:40:34 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> <-7670568118445601407@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <-7670568118445601407@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:40:36 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:23 AM, William Walker wrote: >>> can you set the EDP's 8th replace function to a variety of different beat >>> divisions like you can on the LP-1? >> That's where a MID Program Change pedal comes in handy! Use it to swap >> between EDP programs while performing. You set up the EDP with >> different programs that differ in the 8th setti > > Problem with that technique is that you have to waste basically > Identical presets on differing 8ths. I'm experimenting on the softstep > to send a couple of notes one after each other to virtually press the > parameter button then the 8ths setting... ...but now you have a SoftStep, so you can change EDP parameters by Sysex (I expect) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 10:54:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB5D43BE93; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=s/18WdP3dH/ruolFdnblcxAVZPDrRsZwmOS9OgXuwMg=; b=P3V8v1zbrDfjSEpRJjx2Ab2DRqFRmkFlKGnQwxT6vyNuRtHcNw861fdyuaSpMAlRvn vnxY5jPFWRBVhFqIOzg1pxx931meVsLWq1vWOQg/RGfLG+Dk6wrLTDy2DBn8tVOkcB0X /oNiI5zBN01Gmb9gCll7ICstIM4vu+wwOjIyQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=eMOSBaHU9rN0B9whZfBggcEN/VM3JVzwcdRQjFMaBESusAesOQtVY0CmYEIwlxQFX8 Lzx+J4eYA7IYsTzbqy53Z1HLD8k5p4s+/dbA6t/NMpz3k41b3RacBa2tlLqJVp58+w1f XTPxUKUO6VKmKraUDt2eMe8glwIK2K22/NJ5Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4CDBC822.7040102@tiscali.co.uk> References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> <-7670568118445601407@unknownmsgid> <4CDBC822.7040102@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:54:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oGmzEaJIl5pDJ4zvtGY65PF2j8M Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative trick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8fd04789cd0494c4cd49 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:54:47 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8fd04789cd0494c4cd49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can + Worms /opened = Andy Butler On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:40 AM, andy butler wrote: > ...but now you have a SoftStep, so you can change EDP parameters > by Sysex (I expect) > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8fd04789cd0494c4cd49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can + Worms /opened =3D Andy Butler

On Th= u, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:40 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:<= br>
...but now you have a SoftStep, so you can change EDP para= meters
by Sysex (I expect)



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--90e6ba6e8fd04789cd0494c4cd49-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 11:39:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD2733BE97; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Sos9/6WzxIJ7uzM9co7cTeQ0RUhWHJNdKULOHczVnR0=; b=IXkxglvrVx8BkesSieu+bMAsJ/79K18NN8ZQ9RspwUJtfmU0PkSJr2J/uj/P8CnLa7 9Q6eVWRS29xRGjqyCif7TMlP8ZMrol2wi4nePPeCNEPeWJDSrxm5amC/h+n0SJyAlhTr XyqiKTeGbDmMUF0UMF/earNgv0JWhUlCkIsrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FNBpRORORMVg0EVmu2v1laLxbxuG5T7DtCFoaASFGucHUSuVMLgD+p5ia/yG3/Q5i3 wBzPm2t3s5s4XzrEbZuvm3jrJjxUj4kIPsl/7DJjuCqydz78X08soa1lk/2bPmh1klM8 Kk/NI77GYdHQ+24z/OIBd2P3+orLFsoHWSX3M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:39:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f90f9e3eb3650494c56d8a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:39:30 +0000 (UTC) --001485f90f9e3eb3650494c56d8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulation, Jim ! -fabio 2010/11/11 Jim Goodin > I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10 > Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com > > My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by Paul > Muller at ImprovFriday. My looping was done with the setup I took to Y2K > this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper. > > http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-window-2010/ > > Jim > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --001485f90f9e3eb3650494c56d8a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulation, Jim !
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-fabio

2010/11/11 Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
I was pleased to have a piece of= mine submitted and accepted for '09-10 Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com
My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated= by Paul Muller at ImprovFriday.=A0 My looping was done with the setup I to= ok to Y2K this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper.
http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-w= indow-2010/

Jim
--
= >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &a= mp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthor= n.bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinap= aintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com

--001485f90f9e3eb3650494c56d8a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 12:03:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53E643BE99; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 531227008/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.42/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.42 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAPdq20xV0rsq/2dsb2JhbAAH42eFSgSNWA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,182,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="531227008" Message-ID: <4CDBDB9E.9020300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:03:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4Ho2aD.A.etB.iu92MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:03:46 +0000 (UTC) > Andy said >>One thing that the Looperlative does which helps this is that >> once you have a footswitch set up to do an 8th replace >> it responds in an interesting way to multiple taps. >> It will automatically >> do as many replaces as you do taps with a gap between each. >> That makes it very easy to get some kind of recognizable rhythm happening. William Walker wrote: > I found this out by not being able to control my habit of double > tapping, having not been raised on a sus command machine like the EDP, > I've always gotten used to replace being a function you had to punch in > and out of, and realizing I had just added two sus replace notes. So > Andy am I to understand that you were the guy who conceived of 8th > replace function on the EDP? Well, Replace was already in use and popular. I certainly pushed for 8th Quantise in the EDP, and had the idea, during loopIV development, that it would be nice if a single button press neatly Replaced just one chunk. I also suggested the EDP behaviour that made that possible, although that suggestion probably only got included by Matthias because it was also a neat fix to a bug. With apologies to those who heard it already, here's the first ever track to be recorded using 8th Replace, back in 2003 http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/backwater.mp3 watch out for the use of loop windowing about 2mins into the track to hear the eight beat loop suddenly change into an evolving 8 bar sequence. > For those just tuning in it is the > inspiration for the quantize replace feature on the Looperlative, and > can also be found in Mobius and Matthias' new EvoLoop which i saw the > prototype of and was really excited by. Matt showed me the bits of it on Skype, very cool looking. > So my question, can you set the > EDP's 8th replace function to a variety of different beat divisions like > you can on the LP-1? I really love using this technique over an 12, 10 > or 9 beat subdivision, in addition to my most often used 16. The > looperlative's ability to go as high as a subdivision of 128 makes it > really interesting for crazy glitching over a short loop length. > Bill Sure, it depends on the 8th/Cycle setting. It's also possible to use a related trick called Cycle Quantised SUS Insert. You tap in a single beat short loop, then each foot tap increases the length of the loop by a beat. That means when you're bored of 5/8 you just drop in a couple more beats and go to 7/8. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/edp/tripwire.mp3 again, apologies for reposting that track (from 2004) The thing I really like about these tricks is that people take them and produce a result that is all their own. Perhaps it's appropriate to see it as a compositional technique Here's Rick Walker morphing a blast of noise into something that sounds uncannily like a Hip Hop track that was current at the time.(2008) http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/Norfest08/RW-Intro.mp3 Rick's using a Looperlative there. Other 8th replace users Bernhard Wagner Greg Poorman Steve Lawson Mark Francombe Stephen Scott andy butler ps and thanks to Bill for the excuse for writing this, ..more excellent music involving 8th replace here http://www.youtube.com/user/BillWalkerGuitar From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 13:24:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90C983BE97; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 488136.35095.bm@omp1004.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1289481850; bh=OR1xLrI7GMdfaOqlL6o33zvjvey3Q1F3mc0UApnC6X8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GJS66AuFjPECjAN3ahx9wx0IeVdgGCf5SFcADfpDlrTubMJRYbP0IugslaZJDZJgCriWlkmpj9OyoVN0e6b5BhEKL3LQQdm3/pldIyPkCrzJdJMzY/2MoEP75JD0r/1EtyoPrTNs/+t2j5u8Bkc62c6UPcY1aOd3kzczJRIC034= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GlB5Vx7At/EvYqQMMh1lEIlUwOloOuFU6MIVN+/z6BVJzhU0d/0Uei91poGElc2exw6dnnjV1qi1XySxE55deLNT9g/WvjJwSh4pfk6pTd44nhpmUicgqjUXzrm+RKxWKeAmgoYjpWE1rzGZt3rVIU9QFDZapiSspsPLGXWqTmg=; Message-ID: <354060.39792.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WZLzLXsVM1luC.leoDgA7C4GFlVsOdMnuNw2qM71OwfCzJP kiOxMCmjqAJC0tpxZR87Nm4Gh91uOeXWZZrvN1TakHWHK24a3cjHZx1cRYC. my4zUrD9rLzhdio2hu_rU5SKcM6tvalo9xXcovU._NFJcdJI0YHD7wsm4tV8 yK0gE.M29i2P2H0GVNZ2WanlVIgGdI1ovkuQEhkZD3PsJlllqbIu69aXqRJI Dv.CYJ09Hwo0OaYg0WihXhwGbHl2g72J64Njk7hxxVmCMRvw4kl1mZn9_Xwf 8GoV9jLGPe_erfZuliA8xwKKr X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.9 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:24:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4CDBDB9E.9020300@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:24:12 +0000 (UTC) =0Aandy wrote:=0A=0A> It's also possible to use a related trick called=0A> = Cycle Quantised SUS Insert.=0A> You tap in a single beat short loop, then e= ach foot tap=0A> increases the length of the loop by a beat.=0A> That means= when you're bored of 5/8 you just drop=0A> in a couple more beats and go t= o 7/8.=0A> =0A> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/edp/tripwire.mp3=0A= =0AThat's a nifty trick, I've had a quick look through the manual, can't fi= nd how to do this on the EDP (I've got a script for it in mobius though).= =0A=0AI have figured out one way to do it on the EDP - (Quant=3D8ths), punc= h into loop using INS=3DSub or Rpl a few times to get the rhythm going, the= n change INS=3DSUS (btw, I'm not using midi pedal!) to add a beat to the cy= cle. However, I need to manually increment the 8ths setting by one after ea= ch press of the INS button to get the timing right for the next add. There= is obviously a quicker way to do this, am I using the wrong approach ?=0A= =0A> again, apologies for reposting that track (from 2004)=0A=0ADon't apolo= gise, great to hear it again.=0A=0AStephen=0Awww.myspace.com/sylvianfisher= =0A=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 13:27:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4AD03BE93; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 368360.21299.bm@omp1001.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1289482057; bh=G9blC8xnXBC2hVQcINX7wXMv4MMm7b8SCkhZtdn3suE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XUXLMHCv70fQFDLimxk5141IoOQvODJRHIRQ+m9ASeJjkbhPXTce8JXcMH3uN5hxKELX0xiH8xgWKtXckknJlXHRpfEcXP98YkJlonRDx7Q/cTDAaSjP8EaCuRNiFdSXcHKdcjJMGRFLoDIme+h+xyTwDoFCuOZlmWHAcLElc5w= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0Ao6MNnS850Jg3VfQvODVdPKOEKf90vvXCNqam91L3f9mDrTX8XxRKhub2WcRCm3Cmt1x40TwzODvbxSsnnKp9mjYY8JMds/NC9ueoBj3Fg2BTCeCxrHUTdQGtPWNU1HHo7YFEZTSByD2GRMQoqoymrhU2OOPhCtMHL4HBoudPs=; Message-ID: <264419.93423.qm@web24612.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fN5c6XEVM1mT4E6qeL0voTuZotP0d6Ex6SqFComPp_BuUxL UV9ynxQAKsbhUL8uQzNn87cH3uhgCy4VM1Z0skwuKPF3R36I_QAuxZNEut1p rC_JGGtNLVjOwJap14cZr9xTu1sklp3s4KrwM4eVxWBiTwgMntfFYkEDQTht O6HMhiw_grM5bQqqedeYhZYrcoYngYpSiAuPKpZ6DRhkk70Tbh2piJQbbMQ1 KVFVAXjorywv4v81eUtpVsGYcl528opHkmy4tKFbPYhnVR7kqs5GiU.XWFdC qKzP_xiw- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.9 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:27:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New to looping.. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:27:38 +0000 (UTC) =0A> how do you create the first loop on the SoundBite?=0A=0APress one of t= he 6 pads.=0A =0A> Is it possible to just tap at the start and the end of a= =0A> loop=0A> just like a regular live looping device?=0A=0ANo.=A0 This is = the 2nd main drawback (1st being no overdubbing, it's a loop sampler).=A0 E= ach loop is a fixed length.=A0 The length must be predetermined before the = 1st loop is made.=A0 The loop length is determined by the BPM.=A0 The 6 loo= ps are of different lengths, each being a multiple of one another.=A0 So, a= t BPM of 60 (the lowest setting on the soundbite XL), this equates to loop = lengths of 1,2,2,4,8 and 16 seconds.=A0 This can be changed to give a maxim= um of 32 beats (ie, 32 seconds at 60BPM), with correspondingly much shorter= values for the other 5 pads.=A0 I believe the =0A=0A> Is it true that the = lengths in beats of each loop is=0A> fixed?=0A=0ASee above. =0A=0A> =0A> an= dy=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Stephen Scott wrote:=0A> > Hi Tim, welcome to th= e the wonderful world of looping,=0A> and welcome to the group.=0A> > =0A> = > It does seem that using PC or Mac and appropriate=0A> software might well= be the way for you to go, most hardware=0A> loopers wouldn't do all you re= quire.=0A> > =0A> > However, I will bring to your attention something that= =0A> I have been using as an important part of my livelooping=0A> set-up.= =A0 The RedSound Soundbite XL is essentially just=0A> a loop-sampler (no ov= erdubbing of any loop), but it does=0A> allow 6 separate time related loops= , all synced together=0A> nicely, each one starting as soon as each loop is= =0A> recorded.=A0 Each loop can be turned off, faded out, or=0A> reversed i= ndependently, and there is some nice onboard=0A> filtering (unfortunately o= f all the loops en-masse).=A0=0A> The 'pro' version has other features such= as loop slicing,=0A> and the ability to communicate with PC/MAC.=A0 I have= =0A> modified mine to give footswitch control (not=0A> difficult).=A0 =0A> = > It's pretty simple and rather deficient as a general=0A> purpose looper i= n many areas, but you might want to consider=0A> this.=0A> > =0A> > Check o= ut he manufacturers web site.=0A> > =0A> > http://www.redsound.com/products= =0A> > =0A> > Stephen=0A> > I have no affiliation with Redsound.=0A> > 'Jus= t another guitarist' ;)=0A> > =0A> > www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher=0A> > = =0A> =0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 13:47:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C69323BE93; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oh+pn0rboriylEtjC9NC8wTx0jjGuf3eASBnl0xxQ18=; b=w/cLNLaTRt/erUiqt9av5dKJmTVprSauL95qoQI7LfyqVptiHSQtb7QzkaFQox6sde WnWdL2/hNrpOWLmGw/tybIfz0rB9U9Hfh0NzKEQ2KwP+TgZvqJwIEomcBJXSAu0VyFiy 1oh1XCmaWojNcBOmzb7zgh+aEX/pe3i/l1Imk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IjHEy+X6O0/vTo89ECKjlaLPzbxPQMn10yZHzwqtNntiLhmItgKrgfY0iV0msnSFf1 ANhLaHzClMtdUXAUQ1l0KWrWDJeVUDiwHggUMs8T2m3yk37WQBvXeOHqG8EwSkonLUY7 85mSWVgdhKMX4lrDY+vRGPtaku6b0g/20NtRA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CDBDB9E.9020300@tiscali.co.uk> References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> <4CDBDB9E.9020300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:47:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0OAf6.A.U_D.ZP_2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Wow I feel so lost but an interesting historical read nonetheless. So much in this community. Jim On 11/11/10, andy butler wrote: > >> Andy said > >>>One thing that the Looperlative does which helps this is that >>> once you have a footswitch set up to do an 8th replace >>> it responds in an interesting way to multiple taps. >>> It will automatically >>> do as many replaces as you do taps with a gap between each. >>> That makes it very easy to get some kind of recognizable rhythm >>> happening. > William Walker wrote: >> I found this out by not being able to control my habit of double >> tapping, having not been raised on a sus command machine like the EDP, >> I've always gotten used to replace being a function you had to punch in >> and out of, and realizing I had just added two sus replace notes. So >> Andy am I to understand that you were the guy who conceived of 8th >> replace function on the EDP? > > Well, Replace was already in use and popular. > I certainly pushed for 8th Quantise in the EDP, and had the > idea, during loopIV development, that it would be nice if a single button > press neatly > Replaced just one chunk. > I also suggested the EDP behaviour that made that possible, although > that suggestion probably only got included by Matthias because it > was also a neat fix to a bug. > > With apologies to those who heard it already, here's the first > ever track to be recorded using 8th Replace, back in 2003 > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/backwater.mp3 > > watch out for the use of loop windowing about 2mins into the track > to hear the eight beat loop suddenly change into an evolving 8 bar > sequence. > >> For those just tuning in it is the >> inspiration for the quantize replace feature on the Looperlative, and >> can also be found in Mobius and Matthias' new EvoLoop which i saw the >> prototype of and was really excited by. > > Matt showed me the bits of it on Skype, very cool looking. > >> So my question, can you set the >> EDP's 8th replace function to a variety of different beat divisions like >> you can on the LP-1? I really love using this technique over an 12, 10 >> or 9 beat subdivision, in addition to my most often used 16. The >> looperlative's ability to go as high as a subdivision of 128 makes it >> really interesting for crazy glitching over a short loop length. >> Bill > > Sure, it depends on the 8th/Cycle setting. > > It's also possible to use a related trick called > Cycle Quantised SUS Insert. > You tap in a single beat short loop, then each foot tap > increases the length of the loop by a beat. > That means when you're bored of 5/8 you just drop > in a couple more beats and go to 7/8. > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/edp/tripwire.mp3 > > again, apologies for reposting that track (from 2004) > > > The thing I really like about these tricks is that > people take them and produce a result that is all their own. > Perhaps it's appropriate to see it as a compositional technique > > > Here's Rick Walker morphing a blast of noise into > something that sounds uncannily like a Hip Hop > track that was current at the time.(2008) > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/Norfest08/RW-Intro.mp3 > > Rick's using a Looperlative there. > > Other 8th replace users > Bernhard Wagner > Greg Poorman > Steve Lawson > Mark Francombe > Stephen Scott > > > > > andy butler > ps > and thanks to Bill for the excuse for writing this, > ..more excellent music involving 8th replace here > http://www.youtube.com/user/BillWalkerGuitar > > > > > > > > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 13:47:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0453D3BE92; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 531090304/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.42/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.42 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwBAGaC20xV0rsq/2dsb2JhbAAHgzSRCr4HkSCBIoM1cwSNWA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,183,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="531090304" Message-ID: <4CDBF3ED.9080405@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:47:25 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) References: <354060.39792.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <354060.39792.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Stephen Scott wrote: > andy wrote: > >> It's also possible to use a related trick called >> Cycle Quantised SUS Insert. >> You tap in a single beat short loop, then each foot tap >> increases the length of the loop by a beat. >> That means when you're bored of 5/8 you just drop >> in a couple more beats and go to 7/8. >> >> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/edp/tripwire.mp3 > > That's a nifty trick, I've had a quick look through the manual, >can't find how to do this on the EDP (I've got a script for it in mobius though). Quantise=CYC InsertMode=SUS If you like, you can also do RecMode=SUS, but I usually stay with Recmode=SAF First small loop is done manually. Two quick taps of Record (or just one press if RecMode=SUS) Now each step is added by a single press of Insert andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 13:49:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00A2F3BE90; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TdthQue9+TGxaltX4F+rohOXXoBcpkKu5JYDN/a4rQ8=; b=m2pXeTsV/+HVfSEPC4PbLtOIJIbIceFXHafTzOzOoEp6n5U/1RrTYMZZq0HRCERoq6 nVgZCHU6/M/8KBY9exT7NTdG4PEQRk9g+7GfJLjdBa+k5+jS2d0EQmsd418FQrecjfnA aQCGJwOIqAm17eTPCUxMbCp+v9SIQqnjoa3Ag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fv5bGnYWt3Wa+I/kg4vJfYjHWY8VsVjI4erc225c/kDW4jn4h5tfIx/GIGXoBDhv19 Hhbo8U+MF+p+TiPNZGLwzTrP8K4/o9v+YRmSD/0c/dJgYhTT+iUVRkrkegYW2tkdv9Mc KDLcdleDPD5y33i3nafuZA0gSX6ipqXygQEDE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:49:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Bill thanks. Jim On 11/10/10, William Walker wrote: > There you go! Congrats Jim > Bill > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 14:00:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D54F53BE90; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ORD2crsktmJIgJ/96PWm4JBrm5rghq4Bpv606Lw+844=; b=D1VuIz46ockWTHpHrqudxOtp/w/ciNxEDjS00k7Am23aX784BYEiweEqdFAz+JociM EiIV0XPpd4mbPbFeP/HQDvLYiu0UAd+4E3tKS+3XCLOitKZfdrjkEYdFg3b0dKklZfct G8g6MxPK74bFTc9TJBY/al2KCduseEj8kTsCg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EVstyMOYEkIS3mi9+Hds2wR6oO/2PJhCeIJbMD6UfI4EQqKWO0gIyxuUsHBmrWY4Ij 3XSSrRRFZLcARlmIjE5CeoJv9+68rnP5Xw/sbmIRztBLwWiitQy6ckBd8k90RPxSSWs0 wDoBOHzDHDD0J8gFk1EMxibQ+oZrI++u2KCIg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:00:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Folks thanks very much, it's cool to get some recognition from places like Alt-class.. and ImprovFriday, both places I'd highly recommend checking out for creative/inspired outlets. After reading the '8th replace' thread I feel so na=EFve to my approach to looping and technical I'm using currently now with the simple pedal, I do continue to explore however and evolve. The glitch stuff referenced is really interesting to me though I've not fig'd how to do other than fast pedaling on my limited tools. Thanks for the inspiration of the group here. Jim On 11/11/10, Fabio_A wrote: > Congratulation, Jim ! > > -fabio > > 2010/11/11 Jim Goodin > >> I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10 >> Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com >> >> My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by Paul >> Muller at ImprovFriday. My looping was done with the setup I took to Y2= K >> this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper. >> >> http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-window-2010/ >> >> Jim >> -- >> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin= & >> Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >> >> www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >> > --=20 Sent from my mobile device >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 14:25:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8308F3BE91; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ayRacvnZCGT1k1IdRF5ll1p833A/rXJOZLJI6KFhS+9YyQtQsuxxH4FrYjHeNHCySqItThZEwTQ3//VI+Zta3tBV6K+CLKKaKQb220fRxSqi0M1SmT8DeY4g8v+UUMv4; Message-ID: <20101111082513.qyb70fgxq84wwo0g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:25:13 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <0ELHO.A.eAF.Lz_2MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Jim, Very nice music, indeed. Congratulations on your acceptance for the 09-10 favorites on alt-classical! Was great to see you at Y2KX. All the best, Kevin Quoting Jim Goodin : > > I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10 > Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com > > http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-window-2010/ > > Jim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 14:52:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FB4F3BEA2; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 220424.36609.bm@omp1020.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1289487134; bh=mugFmMSU8Ub6vhcXMpo7edKeRwMMxR8fhTQ6EdATA0E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=E9Bap2asHz2GScdWvG7EpMTSKFugaJaWB7gVb8v1cvDFbpYI9oBxnLBLC0fR99hihSD7EehAnbUvPMh0nUDw9nYQnzmFAcswRr4AiRRsaq6Zd5vpc5U1A5XOx5r0LbOOFEGhLvAfZz+ZFKvk2WJS5EOIT5QksVPyBWk83ZAklNw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Q1b80wRIso999pkH0HgDTZ3HJYKI76bPfEE8daRKU7M6goPZPEscW+fK7dl/nEBHPva4K/Jx9xdvzLtztfDhceYmnvGhp/yeekTVr/z72tTLtjaT5OmTQ3Pvl4Dj/P1tMUpIBEThd6uUW9DAWqJCMqPROfRw5hym1afQbnFFIhc=; Message-ID: <112484.61134.qm@web24615.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WbAhhbAVM1lH17_bA9DTUuFij3bRDax1._xsodgWXYxbc9u 8HOjqy6jMMieZeyZgbU1zboWWVdMEEaL9hYwM3CtHogy0fx1ZUWclR83hWEB P0vqKIYM_HKkUtxsXzDChtQLTfwc6qAIVEZaw3UIbVnIwEj8fG3n.7yRkRGG bSBIWZWsRIba4o0BSYyVKBQQ7VLA7JKStODDjYCjFbrEIcuRTNBmqzuMrK30 HvFMh0nA8xe9iX5kDmByA8pAapTq4YrWenO0jTdP3zh05uRaL3eGIHa2dspv ndGfTJbqSQEh.gGFxdPflnaxEOPp7 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.9 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:52:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4CDBF3ED.9080405@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:52:15 +0000 (UTC) =0A--- On Thu, 11/11/10, andy butler wrote:=0A=0A>= From: andy butler =0A> Subject: Re: @Bill, empty l= oop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?)=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=0A> Date: Thursday, 11 November, 2010, 13:47=0A> Stephen Sco= tt wrote:=0A> > andy wrote:=0A> > =0A> >> It's also possible to use a relat= ed trick called=0A> >> Cycle Quantised SUS Insert.=0A> >> You tap in a sing= le beat short loop, then each=0A> foot tap=0A> >> increases the length of t= he loop by a beat.=0A> >> That means when you're bored of 5/8 you just drop= =0A> >> in a couple more beats and go to 7/8.=0A> >> =0A> >> http://myweb.t= iscali.co.uk/andybutler/edp/tripwire.mp3=0A> > =0A> > That's a nifty trick,= I've had a quick look through=0A> the manual, can't find how to do this on= the EDP (I've got a=0A> script for it in mobius though).=0A> =0A> Quantise= =3DCYC=0A> InsertMode=3DSUS=0A> =0A> If you like, you can also do RecMode= =3DSUS, but I usually=0A> stay with Recmode=3DSAF=0A> =0A> First small loop= is done manually.=0A> Two quick taps of Record (or just one press if=0A> R= ecMode=3DSUS)=0A> =0A> Now each step is added by a single press of Insert= =0A> =0A> andy=0A=0AAh, I see now. You're working in cycles rather than su= b-cycles. In some ways it might be more manageable to add another sub-cycl= e rather than a complete short cycle - I'm finding that I'm getting very la= rge numbers of cycles otherwise after multiplying (which btw also behaves i= n SUS-fashion when INS=3DSUS), so I need to reset INS=3DRPL and end Multipl= y with REC.=0A=0AStephen=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 15:26:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70CED3BE95; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1Rhga6vWEFYA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=paKwNnFrAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=l1qK0aSRAAAA:8 a=usJOCi-UvE5FAEr6iAEA:9 a=zwvcay2VTF4MLnjL2nwA:7 a=4nA9i53bdtncO961KdCN8O6nOToA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 Message-Id: <14501FD4-AA45-47C6-98E9-4BE9422D2906@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 07:25:55 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Very nice Jim. You must be very proud. Indeed you should be. Kudos. Ted >> 2010/11/11 Jim Goodin >> >>> I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for =20 >>> '09-10 >>> Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com >>> >>> My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by =20= >>> Paul >>> Muller at ImprovFriday. My looping was done with the setup I took =20= >>> to Y2K >>> this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper. >>> >>> http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-window-2010/ >>> >>> Jim >>> -- >>> =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim =20= >>> Goodin & >>> Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >>> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >>> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >>> >>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com >>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >>> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 16:09:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2A5D3BE99; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:09:52 -0400 Subject: OT:Intsant Song Mastering From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <-LFmOB.A.JWH.QVB3MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:09:52 +0000 (UTC) This looks really interesting. Going to try it later today. http://www.instantsongmastering.com/ Andre http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 16:34:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7186D3BE92; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1hO+z6cLr2kdkMVqJt6kS7mM15/5Lp6zovofoVsP+DY=; b=Nc/ALOTg+oxpNSE55OEEfExUfEAUTB1VrliZWvDVJ0yvu2NEVqg24ekBATqzGCQGWL E+DWF4KRepQRJG8Qj3QhWtIKNZ90bR+OXpMTZ+s3je9BHocZTvn6/vfLk45GLEbKqfxq ZCQvk07cBKqaBVbwtGpAVFKg8/qeVmYlc5bQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jCRqU/kY/jSGiRPeGVexTw5I/g6yEfG8Zw8RCCzMlpQbEGYPDHVLxfuzJSn8WM6xNy wsGr0SqfNwvJpcnnOsnhM6yo6qt4BhczAAZWk2rIhO1OCCXFmAWbXBZkOg2uaX1SjLlu DKUgfAnVXoFvCDDq+vBpC27nsSCBV1FG3mMvY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:34:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CGT Live now on Ustream From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a5f18778440494c98d98 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:34:52 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a5f18778440494c98d98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff thanks for this , I've not seen these guys in a long time, glad they are still happening. It's a bit commercial at times but playful and very well done stuff. Missed the live but looking back at an archive now. j On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > They have been known to loop a bit! > California Guitar Trio! > Now going live real soon it looks like. > > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/xo-live > > j > > > > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a5f18778440494c98d98 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff thanks for this , I've not seen these guys in a long time, glad th= ey are still happening. It's a bit commercial at times but playful and = very well done stuff.

Missed the live but looking back at an archive= now.

j

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:00 PM, J= eff Duke <jeffl= oops@gmail.com> wrote:
They have been known to loop a bit!
California Guitar Trio!
Now goin= g live real soon it looks like.


http://www.ustream.tv/channel/xo-live

j






--
From Brooklyn To= Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn= .bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wo= rdpress.com
--20cf3054a5f18778440494c98d98-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 17:08:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CBEB3BE97; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iJ/N0HwfbNzEcfzPwXwf4PODNlqHisPed5Z6PHnGx7I=; b=iqXzLjvrozX5Ce8rzW7chGehJWZpAUmILvXwvZN1ICIg+sXFIeDa3BdWOG8pFASvvw k6eMoMIq1bxbL1WXaGt3uWrWC3+nviqWa4ncMF586/d3nYI5yg9Wc55mH/pKy+JeVwU2 crV2N7fgz304mTDh+g+QADr1aF+yNCxxvuqB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N0Vxcy0uPbeY/IIYnbxKw4cAhVY7jKZ6m1ZqEJjJxDJIggSKOy62VvRwYgHx8Lo1kR rmqYtPImOr5cFNZPzST4k+Eo4dTZJq21QdwhTij/ioBicxpACg+m8myMkT6BTveCc7tp UtNSSIAY+nIMKctB1wO4i9Nsuzz66nnyYeOW4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:08:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT:Intsant Song Mastering From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:08:46 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM, "Andr=C3=A9 Donawa" wrote: > This looks really interesting. > Going to try it later today. > http://www.instantsongmastering.com/ Looking forward to hear about your findings! Do you think this service is an automatic server side process? I guess it has to be, for cost efficiency. Knowing how delicate the audio mastering process is, I'm wondering if this service offers a number of "mastering templates" to chose from? That could work fine if your mix is good. But if your mix is less good, can the online service offer you information on what frequency bands that cause problems for mastering? I mean, so you can go re-do the mix and come back with a better mix to master. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 17:12:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 982323BE92; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pLp8H1D+r9TdGefOgJzjyh1ePjV7Th34gfm+BFlqJy4=; b=OMPOyesSG6b9jN07yWF09vXrg/Tfr5w2xcbis5fw0vS99V+AE7fkctKAJmQ8cWCTk7 6zMc8c4abqXXxBRuW9NuhSk5LX5l05014M9j8Z9KlIOd0ONZ9LBmCH1cLMJxiZhESUdH 62y0rKfvclMotyq1lmp1GRchOqzbLklDHAUso= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=s6n2zwAe7w+IcOvDGnVCxiVyodJJQjhHeiFL4fMii4tgLbSqNakW2ckYPhSUDqi2Gz Rb18hY6ltE4XmeMR00YY26K19A2p1Zkhi/YeJ5TOUTWajeupiTaWCo4z+LPD0bDDtkz5 8C1DRRtn9F6CX3Epal8uyzXakjN3PmZEZ3Zy0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:12:10 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT:Intsant Song Mastering From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301cc3c009b17d0494ca139b Resent-Message-ID: <-0d29C.A.B3.zPC3MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:12:19 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301cc3c009b17d0494ca139b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes Andre, please report back on your findings! J On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" > wrote: > > This looks really interesting. > > Going to try it later today. > > http://www.instantsongmastering.com/ > > > Looking forward to hear about your findings! Do you think this service > is an automatic server side process? I guess it has to be, for cost > efficiency. Knowing how delicate the audio mastering process is, I'm > wondering if this service offers a number of "mastering templates" to > chose from? That could work fine if your mix is good. But if your mix > is less good, can the online service offer you information on what > frequency bands that cause problems for mastering? I mean, so you can > go re-do the mix and come back with a better mix to master. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > --20cf301cc3c009b17d0494ca139b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes Andre, please report back on your findings!

J

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>= wrote:
On Thu, Nov 11, 2= 010 at 5:09 PM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" <andre@andredonawa.com> wrote:
> This looks really interesting.
> Going to try it later today.
> htt= p://www.instantsongmastering.com/


Looking forward to hear about your findings! Do you think this service
is an automatic server side process? I guess it has to be, for cost
efficiency. Knowing how delicate the audio mastering process is, I'm wondering if this service offers a number of "mastering templates"= ; to
chose from? That could work fine if your mix is good. But if your mix
is less good, can the online service offer you information on what
frequency bands that cause problems for mastering? I mean, so you can
go re-do the mix and come back with a better mix to master.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub

--20cf301cc3c009b17d0494ca139b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 17:18:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81A943BE95; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9caVYdhCNWwQLt57VhYgoMCL6cYB0PAw+71Sm/6ixFQ=; b=JK4ykkisOCjTk/rIuH/aU/F2kIsiBofY7wfoD7YX8S9qVGKJ8YhcEA7RCfIfcbrpE9 Iuur/mZ6EmHcflrEF3r2bAnoLQwTAoC/ja3VHd/YKhYFRG6aFIlx7k1oDtnr1VjspJKW Wg6vsO2EvxoCdbsLgmNkK+oo+ZVb5zeI5hi9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nhRNbqKGo064Zl6hWu6VhNZJlsQnUkMclxG67eGbo6KMi/zoXCQ6BSUeO38ZsbWEvd xjyab9VYlVfLoIwh/1LgDBpnRse+y+DiRgLIXErY/HzYpAZsqX1bEivKpwBWUZmIXtAz N2jG9oae1p76vWNx+TzqKAp6fY+qqiJeGW+88= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:18:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT:Intsant Song Mastering From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a4b5ad1550494ca29c1 Resent-Message-ID: <5wTQn.A.KBB.mVC3MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:18:30 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a4b5ad1550494ca29c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One thing that I don't see listed in the faq is song length limits. I have = a tendency for really long tunes :) http://www.instantsongmastering.com/faq/ Maybe I'll shoot them a 30 minute wav and see what happens... j On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:09 AM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" w= rote: > This looks really interesting. > Going to try it later today. > http://www.instantsongmastering.com/ > > Andre > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > > --20cf30549a4b5ad1550494ca29c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One thing that I don't see listed in the faq is song length limits. I h= ave a tendency for really long tunes :)
http://www.instantsongmastering.com/faq/ Maybe I&#= 39;ll shoot them a 30 minute wav and see what happens...

j

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:09 AM, &= quot;Andr=E9 Donawa" <andre@andredonawa.com> wrote:
This looks really interesting.
Going to try it later today.
http://w= ww.instantsongmastering.com/

Andre

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--20cf30549a4b5ad1550494ca29c1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 17:26:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 724BD3BE95; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <20101111082513.qyb70fgxq84wwo0g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: small battery powered, stereo amp.....ORANGE MICRO CRUSH 6S Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:25:50 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: <20101111082513.qyb70fgxq84wwo0g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32843-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD4FDC9EBD0DC7-16D0-CD6@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:26:10 +0000 (UTC) http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MicroCrush6S/ anyone try one of these?.....might be a good set up for my kit.....as=20 of late i've been just taking my little fender champ and the M13 for small=20 gigs.....i am a stereo whore! so i was thinking 2 of these puppies might be the ticket.....woosh.....they are cheap enuf, $89.00 + $15.00 for the power supply.....any thoughts?????.....tanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 17:41:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E4473BE95; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8c7OEk9wkPORr7jI5/0It27/p0YeK9om7Jhqi2ZBSn8=; b=PzcHf3LMIDrp3iVKaQkjaVp0S+CQjquGT591oKbY8L3NgECXleIneqfWgyovHzq+i8 3s/KqJq/etNfsIYxbXsm15qMmg0XPqMbRJ/CXl5HBYD7SMToyQjSaIvSJ5+pGJarFVAh wdmnXXbK+XTWfcnYrkqFPiGjbZgQwKWJs+Wxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YMtdV16oWKzyaLbkcs7/wU0Kw3QB6UNp6reJwKq2FdHaG7K/GWlLmC8KY6e30uJd3W Wnity/kX5OQZpgCpzx8OvXfiyUJICjkx612hjIF8oGcFiM8w+3e/rw7+VVnAP3l/R5r2 xZuDIAXHaR13u809uyOzyZye1YLxOWZ2QdN/c= Message-ID: <4CDC2ADB.1020706@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:41:47 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT:Intsant Song Mastering References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:41:47 +0000 (UTC) André Donawa schrieb: > This looks really interesting. > Going to try it later today. > http://www.instantsongmastering.com Funnily, there's no references at all about the experience and knowledge of the people involved. For that reason, I find the following hard to believe (quoting from their FAQ): * "If this is "Instant", is the quality as good as other services?* The quality is not only as good, it's better!" In other words, it is really better than, say, Bob Katz, or Bob Ludwig? Looks to me like the following business idea. An engineering student with a focus on audio technology did the processing portion as a semester project. One of his friends (studying for MBA) said "hey, this is the perfect business opportunity! We already got the code, a server is cheap, so to balance costs, we only need one customer per month!" -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 17:42:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E71E3BEA4; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hCjIg4UggK+lWTzwdkJLlfySE60t3iYSm9MpVKF4V4g=; b=ZFbaC7ZUtSRuJo58kgBtbPi9BBA6HfkP+NR0Leq1CrjuHk7yZZ9xPhQlXmMlFPb36X CD90oMKLgwtet//lVB+LXKpTBSiZxGA58elUBSYHdzFKUhLbasO6sN4m2Iv3lLlC4E8W wO5pSx7OIsZTyv0aMYNgkJO4VtX2x83ENbEio= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GNizFeRxWxk30IZz5KSjjKrwVsYcoo3sXBVyoIxRO58AgABOjKJXcDXomPSiKURj+j 29Ei2l4V0bvwarzzfN/MNkhLyKdUf0chYz0nbqORtKLHVzb6vQvgUTTIWXeC9MFZNn20 5oJpYuRgfqmr5I4nvln64YIZc5rS5VYR+cEJw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD4FDC9EBD0DC7-16D0-CD6@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> References: <20101111082513.qyb70fgxq84wwo0g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <8CD4FDC9EBD0DC7-16D0-CD6@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:42:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: small battery powered, stereo amp.....ORANGE MICRO CRUSH 6S From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:42:46 +0000 (UTC) If you are sending stereo into it you'd better check that it has a stereo input. Many combo amps that are sold as "stereo" just adds some sort of on-board stereo effect to the two power stages and speakers. Not saying that is bad, but you'd better know what you are buying ;-)) I used a Gallien-Kr=C3=BCger stereo combo of that kind (although you could feed it a stereo input if going directly into the power amp, side-stepping the pre amp) and was happy with it for at least a dozen years before it finally crapped out. But generally, I have mostly reached a better guitar stereo sound when using two separate mono boxes - like for example the Roland Cube - feeding them one stereo channel each. Maybe this little battery driven Orange comes also in a mono version? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:25 PM, wrote: > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MicroCrush6S/ > anyone try one of these?.....might be a good set up for my kit.....as of > late > i've been just taking my little fender champ and the M13 for small > gigs.....i am a stereo whore! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 17:42:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB7683BEA9; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <66842F59-4C55-45F1-890D-82FEFA3C6397@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4CDBBD4E.1010601@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:42:56 -0800 References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> <3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> <4CDBBD4E.1010601@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <6CYDc.A.UFC.hsC3MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Very true, it will all get sorted. This has been a good learning experience for me The "old" Zoe used to roll with the bugs when a new product came out. I enjoyed the process of helping out. The "new" Zoe now needs to pay a nanny $15 an hour....so I have a different perspective on spending 10-20 hours getting setup with a new piece of equipment just to find that its not ready to take onstage. I need to learn to be patient and wait until things are stable before I dive in! On Nov 11, 2010, at 1:54 AM, andy butler wrote: > Calm down now folks. > > It's common for new products like this to reveal difficulties > when they go out to live loopers. > > When I first received the Little Giant it also had problems, > ...which Xavier fixed very quickly. > > Keith McMillen is unlikely to rest much until everything is sorted. > > > andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 18:03:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFF4B3BEB2; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Qee/ppIYzrXjx+k9/iQKpQxAhxGMOhk9PuVlvlkmO+k=; b=MOgm1C/62xhxfqgtPcnk3P1f8TFsXJEOAO+A2Of4PHdqP4HUceZOIIgm5ec9/YFXAz xQ0CGuDWqLAA22DfvyCpD3872XOWKONWTM5Wm+E2ai6234EpoZPmTxz+W+EUC0g86yH/ yyZogNSwM8ZPozpXQPU9iDbSIoQ5qjx6YE79Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tvs4Wzo6TRhst5oWw1wDnkWefwZnPFaxqpAXTGvY/iSEVt97hsc28DsDzIpYeM4Z7g j0mPQ0BMjLOWq3rbnqpCFZQGrOeVdJypCwCKHbNsUWQlwgiBvJOH+92+MgdLG4/gkktc V/NALSrfXZ9S7h443FiDrLNlFfxLh7GVAtYkY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66842F59-4C55-45F1-890D-82FEFA3C6397@zoekeating.com> References: <20101110191419.7D2583BEA4@arsenic.violacea.com> <553EF4BF-0523-4584-9BC0-1C209C3C8B62@zoekeating.com> <3809E814-807D-4777-971B-1B08BFCC0330@gmail.com> <4CDBBD4E.1010601@tiscali.co.uk> <66842F59-4C55-45F1-890D-82FEFA3C6397@zoekeating.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:03:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:03:23 +0000 (UTC) > On Nov 11, 2010, at 1:54 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> Calm down now folks. >> >> It's common for new products like this to reveal difficulties >> when they go out to live loopers. >> >> When I first received the Little Giant it also had problems, >> ...which Xavier fixed very quickly. So true! Bugs are normal on a free market. I immediately found a number of bugs in my new Little Giant 2, as I was programming it manually. After loosing my work I borrowed a Windows computer, fired up the software editor and repaired my bug eaten LG 2 banks over USB MIDI. Programming the LG2 by the software editor seemed bug free as far as I'm concerned. I documented and reported the bugs an after two days Xavier answered back that he had succeeded in duplicating them and was ready to fix the issues when some disposable time comes his way. He also said he was now in urgent need of two things: first sleep, then vacation. ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 18:15:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64A033BECA; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gDEPkFKaDv9Oysv2rI3TCxHChsFI6MA061DlWGcLbA8=; b=eTc935b2D0eZ41SFR+H/LCYZavZAW3I1ZRw83LoA1ZvTiDFUxsj4Z0r82vT33FvUNj 89DZ0nyKPczYccv2cCiq+2e2m+1ITtL5UiZRYSvpNgp+Lhwa1e7l3Q0htRmXbRFiSAuC Fb4xgUtWnM3Tqa4G1pdrKZnd7QrAvSE6ZoRIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rRYCACUPt4aBSMfGXvDv6iScXxazeWx/ZIyys+83FhVAnpI/tR+StBLc7GeUAHGvIl 9ZvMPfdJwGrjVerUhX9NQxWk0BqkWYu+quvZoxMXhKLV49hwiYVLMxqdfh1HR9DGI9sj psdYESpq+54GztpjJtFbpf6O3NieEg4/lrcZw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20101111082513.qyb70fgxq84wwo0g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <8CD4FDC9EBD0DC7-16D0-CD6@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:15:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: small battery powered, stereo amp.....ORANGE MICRO CRUSH 6S From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549dc9ff4f970494caf488 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:15:42 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549dc9ff4f970494caf488 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah these have a regular guitar input and "*has two speakers for full stereo sound, plus line-out/auxiliary-in sockets. It includes a 2.5mm stere= o jack socket to plug in your Ipod/MP3 player" *Which is kind of misleading* *"stereo sound"* *is not the same as stereo I don't believe and anyway how can you have stereo without some separation of the speakers?! You might get both sides of the stereo field but they would be so close together...? But at that price you can get two as Michael said. I found no vids on Youtube yet to convince me of a good loud clean sound however so... Ha, Per, I remember my Gallien-Kr=FCger! Bad ass little amp! best, j On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > If you are sending stereo into it you'd better check that it has a > stereo input. Many combo amps that are sold as "stereo" just adds some > sort of on-board stereo effect to the two power stages and speakers. > Not saying that is bad, but you'd better know what you are buying ;-)) > > I used a Gallien-Kr=FCger stereo combo of that kind (although you could > feed it a stereo input if going directly into the power amp, > side-stepping the pre amp) and was happy with it for at least a dozen > years before it finally crapped out. But generally, I have mostly > reached a better guitar stereo sound when using two separate mono > boxes - like for example the Roland Cube - feeding them one stereo > channel each. Maybe this little battery driven Orange comes also in a > mono version? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:25 PM, wrote: > > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MicroCrush6S/ > > anyone try one of these?.....might be a good set up for my kit.....as o= f > > late > > i've been just taking my little fender champ and the M13 for small > > gigs.....i am a stereo whore! > --20cf30549dc9ff4f970494caf488 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah these have a regular guitar input and "has two speakers for fu= ll stereo sound, plus line-out/auxiliary-in=20 sockets. It includes a 2.5mm stereo jack socket to plug in your Ipod/MP3 player"

Which is kind of misleading "stereo so= und" is not the same as stereo I don't believe and anyway h= ow can you have stereo without some separation of the speakers?! You might = get both sides of the stereo field but they would be so close together...?<= br>
But at that price you can get two as Michael said. I found no vids on Y= outube yet to convince me of a good loud clean sound however so...

H= a, Per, I remember my Gallien-Kr=FCger! Bad ass little amp!

best,
j

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM, P= er Boysen <perb= oysen@gmail.com> wrote:
If you are sending stereo into it you'd better check that it has a
stereo input. Many combo amps that are sold as "stereo" just adds= some
sort of on-board stereo effect to the two power stages and speakers.
Not saying that is bad, but you'd better know what you are buying ;-))<= br>
I used a Gallien-Kr=FCger stereo combo of that kind (although you could
feed it a stereo input if going directly into the power amp,
side-stepping the pre amp) and was happy with it for at least a dozen
years before it finally crapped out. But generally, I have mostly
reached a better guitar stereo sound when using two separate mono
boxes - like for example the Roland Cube - feeding them one stereo
channel each. Maybe this little battery driven Orange comes also in a
mono version?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:25 PM, =A0<nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MicroCrush6S/
> anyone try one of these?.....might be a good set up for my kit.....as = of
> late
> i've been just taking my little fender champ and the M13 for small=
> gigs.....i am a stereo whore!

--20cf30549dc9ff4f970494caf488-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 18:23:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 088B63BE93; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:23:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Intsant Song Mastering Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:23:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CB81CD.95D2CC90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:23:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CB81CD.95D2CC90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BFI=E2=80=99m curious about the clause in their Terms of Service: Intellectual Property All materials (including the organization and presentation of such = material) on this Web site (the =E2=80=9CMaterials=E2=80=9D) are the = property of Instant Song Mastering and its licensors and may be = protected by intellectual property laws including laws relating to = copyrights, trade-marks, trade-names, internet domain names, and other = similar rights.=20 Unless you have entered into a separate agreement with Instant Song = Mastering, such as a Royalty Free License Agreement, any other use of = these Materials without Instant Song Mastering's written permission is = prohibited.=20 The Materials may only be used and copied for your own, non-commercial, = personal or educational purposes, provided that the Materials are not = modified and that copyright and other intellectual property notices are = not deleted. You may not create derivative works from or otherwise = exploit the Materials in any way.=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:12 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: OT:Intsant Song Mastering Yes Andre, please report back on your findings! J On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Per Boysen = wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM, "Andr=C3=A9 Donawa" = wrote: > This looks really interesting. > Going to try it later today. > http://www.instantsongmastering.com/ Looking forward to hear about your findings! Do you think this service is an automatic server side process? I guess it has to be, for cost efficiency. Knowing how delicate the audio mastering process is, I'm wondering if this service offers a number of "mastering templates" to chose from? That could work fine if your mix is good. But if your mix is less good, can the online service offer you information on what frequency bands that cause problems for mastering? I mean, so you can go re-do the mix and come back with a better mix to master. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CB81CD.95D2CC90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CB81CD.95D2CC90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 18:27:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D47CE3BE99; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=IkDyAKBXzDcSOUKFa/fLqxabv9bI+3dWJDVcEuhYThF40y8QAK9awjXBXlaqx2oX6mdz8Eu6fRHoCuZcBiOSwyDDOmac1WMw/uytQtyT9R0aYyiF/zNOh50FO93W2t7q; Message-ID: <20101111122724.iz6pf9nps0cg8k8w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:27:24 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: small battery powered, stereo amp.....ORANGE MICRO CRUSH 6S References: <20101111082513.qyb70fgxq84wwo0g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <8CD4FDC9EBD0DC7-16D0-CD6@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Jeff Duke : >> > *Which is kind of misleading* *"stereo sound"* *is not the same as stereo I > don't believe... > At the end of this short video, there is a demonstration of stereo sound! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0gzQS4w1sc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 18:30:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D41F03BEC9; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9pCxEfqTao6eQcdZWS/32TV9QoFqsQaiIkBA4unMG3U=; b=AgRtLCH8lMD4nKrNbY+xJL3YDaed2YAWcLs2hu9lLLd5FjWeHHCxxB9ibpVw7qT5Tv nIwXIu6r+FpDqwHPrJOtaZMk+1e9Co3Dc4diQHTxOO3y/qWJ7SQobmDk6pUYUW13OYCg z7w+chAJd0gw4KJFFRA6TSdndEzE3y5ynhtL4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nj0UWgc+xHYv2kIHsHC1sdJ73pf6YpjQuZyQyqm5we6toBoPxIZmyD5WMXxlG702eu k5e88lUlvuHJ/h/kgN+0LF1onrVzIMIs91/QNff/dUC8RTuoeEsUY8GncdFDhYgGFF9A HkXdXcBaQKrytpKIcm8PdauPLb6/XfQl8OFiI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20101111082513.qyb70fgxq84wwo0g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <8CD4FDC9EBD0DC7-16D0-CD6@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:30:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: small battery powered, stereo amp.....ORANGE MICRO CRUSH 6S From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:30:25 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > how can you have stereo without some separation of the speakers?! You might > get both sides of the stereo field but they would be so close together...? My old GK had the same "too closely" places speakers. That was good from a portability perspective but you could not hear much of the stereo effect. What I did though, to get wide stereo, was either to plug in two standard Marshall cabinets or stick two PA mics up to the tiny on-box elements. > But at that price you can get two as Michael said. I found no vids on > Youtube yet to convince me of a good loud clean sound however so... If cranked it probably sounds as a small low price rehearsal amp on its way to fall apart - but that is a way cool sound! This is why I think two mono boxes will work better; the physical speaker distortion will then not harm the stereo field. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 18:47:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AED43BED0; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 528533938/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.42/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.42 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjECAD7I20xV0rsq/2dsb2JhbAAHgzSRDcAhkR+BIoM1cwSNWA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,184,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="528533938" Message-ID: <4CDC3A21.20107@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:46:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Intsant Song Mastering References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:47:03 +0000 (UTC) I expect that's just part of the standard template they used for the website. Just like the 'Privacy Policy'. andy Stephen Goodman wrote: > I’m curious about the clause in their Terms of Service: > ** > *Intellectual Property* > All materials (including the organization and presentation of such > material) on this Web site (the “Materialsâ€) are the property of Instant > Song Mastering and its licensors From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 19:30:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C2E23BECF; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rvrh9hR/UCep100uY0kC7qsgcu4p+DGDWBWtuB6LbWg=; b=j0+/mRxNgdcIQqVnpt7hDnsL2pgJMtiuDldsQaKlil4dbvVa/5MS+U99Gyta3Pi8Ar lAeSKGIF/ZUTmzfiMXUbKPYxfcQRhYmKb/K0CdbpELQKbp/SnW1Fvm9xgCkzcYEdRMI0 HTwLlu6OjmDYToDXKqQzDuCtJ0Url/endnLXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=f9BFc9JdjpzU45i/hDbvoJ6EhaGPmvrEk5W68YZA9YXNRtQnF+d/vXl3dIrm8eKAAE YOlhFqmW+jJBbmn5u3IkyJRx4NH7MbmsX21cNED8HQU4POuCOheo5/vGqOtyHe/EOPJt XKUht96vqDR4CjGl2mslP84P6krVcTZMhe4Jk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20101111122724.iz6pf9nps0cg8k8w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <20101111082513.qyb70fgxq84wwo0g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <8CD4FDC9EBD0DC7-16D0-CD6@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> <20101111122724.iz6pf9nps0cg8k8w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:29:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: small battery powered, stereo amp.....ORANGE MICRO CRUSH 6S From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8166d2fd550494cbfff1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:30:02 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8166d2fd550494cbfff1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hehe! On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:27 PM, wrote: > Quoting Jeff Duke : > >> >>> *Which is kind of misleading* *"stereo sound"* *is not the same as >> stereo I >> don't believe... >> >> > At the end of this short video, there is a demonstration of stereo sound! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0gzQS4w1sc > --90e6ba6e8166d2fd550494cbfff1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hehe!

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:27 PM, <= span dir=3D"ltr"><kkiss= inger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
Quoting Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com>:

*Which is kind of misleading* *"stereo sound"* *is not the same a= s stereo I
don't believe...


At the end of this short video, there is a demonstration of stereo sound!
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DM0gzQS4w1sc

--90e6ba6e8166d2fd550494cbfff1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 19:31:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3137B3BEDA; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a/1AI8d6I3CA8DaKJqzTDhDV22nAJeL1gzKM0+bbWO8=; b=eXbBnD/O/Y6HfUVrDR58BwmhgzoNczaq/qbMLLC1TKvgF2tmzWFmpJ6QxUyxOQiU5U s06FARB4aOjnxaR6b1EtCAgIElzG0xjWOWa0B6l0eCu7yVMTvMCbHHk8v4r+qkhcZf29 eexG5nXW1JpUlDPcrL9UqvmCIrmxWrw8Fdl/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UA14/3R++zk0hunBhK0RUKiGBh4LuHhtRC85H+XdWK/XB7cXyEUzWgxFkrfdAu77AE jf7ynyCHLWy5VyBCnYaWJFO2dDVZb4NHltfPlluXaetGq/Be94EfOj3s/BIXbnXT0kKG swogOMGlEEcOw5Xr53ZWrsLN1pu7MSfS6PryU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14501FD4-AA45-47C6-98E9-4BE9422D2906@charter.net> References: <14501FD4-AA45-47C6-98E9-4BE9422D2906@charter.net> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:31:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: piece chosen for Alt-Classical.com From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba211f2916bffa0494cc045b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:31:11 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba211f2916bffa0494cc045b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kevin/Ted thank you both. It was great to see you fellas at Y2K, such a great fest this year. I still have video to get you Kevin and everyone else, know it sounds a broken record but I'm getting there. Currently between work, home-life, my activity before the video distribution is finishing/publishing an ImprovFriday podcast interview with our own Steve Moyes. After that I should start uploading to folks - video is so time consuming. j On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > Very nice Jim. > > You must be very proud. > > Indeed you should be. > > Kudos. > > Ted > > > > 2010/11/11 Jim Goodin >>> >>> I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-1= 0 >>>> Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com >>>> >>>> My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by Pau= l >>>> Muller at ImprovFriday. My looping was done with the setup I took to >>>> Y2K >>>> this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper. >>>> >>>> http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-window-2010/ >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> -- >>>> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Good= in >>>> & >>>> Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >>>> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >>>> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >>>> >>>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com >>>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >>>> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >>>> >>> > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --90e6ba211f2916bffa0494cc045b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kevin/Ted thank you both.=A0 It was great to see you fellas at Y2K, such a = great fest this year.=A0 I still have video to get you Kevin and everyone e= lse, know it sounds a broken record but I'm getting there.=A0 Currently= between work, home-life, my activity before the video distribution is fini= shing/publishing an ImprovFriday podcast interview with our own Steve Moyes= .=A0 After that I should start uploading to folks - video is so time consum= ing.

j

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM, t= Ed =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Very nice Jim.

You must be very proud.

Indeed you should be.

Kudos.

Ted



2010/11/11 Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>

I was pleased to have a piece of mine submitted and accepted for '09-10=
Favorites' on www.alt-classical.com

My track 'Window', solo violin with live looping, was nominated by = Paul
Muller at ImprovFriday. =A0My looping was done with the setup I took to Y2K=
this year, essentially using a Digitech Hardwire Delay/Looper.

http://www.alt-classical.com/2010/11/09/jim-goodin-windo= w-2010/

Jim
--
>From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &a= mp;
Peter Th=F6rn. =A0Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
jimgo= odinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmu= sic.com
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com
woodand= wiremusic.wordpress.com




--
From Brookl= yn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter T= h=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Internati= onal.=A0 jimgoodinpeter= thorn.bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wo= rdpress.com
--90e6ba211f2916bffa0494cc045b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 20:52:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E029F3BE98; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CDC5776.7080500@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:52:06 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:52:09 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Dan Pound. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Night Watch" on Pound Sounds Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#nov You will also hear music from Chuck Van Zyl who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 5, 8 pm at the Nazareth Center for the Arts. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 23:29:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDE2F3BE95; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 599144.25389.bm@omp1058.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1289518184; bh=64zLsRh152EdfmtiDPoyPtgolD80sl55VyLa7YXxZak=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IYrRRMFdf4Q1esJizqoBfe+2H0jyIRdRjCEdoMcYrrmBUQ6mE/cfBL+Jzgj89I0PfP0JP5x2hiYtE1RBq9mQRmxiwwIt1uEnlBBOG5mFDgMZcdC9Dwv3XvmgaPKtpUd0Ki/ADIIRx5/HrI4ybY7eTCCShIzsZkRRkdhpb1fZBJE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=B/5Z2KwDvRK8dKs3cmaJaqRXtM84bN6UP3hoc6RhFclB2gFJnqNhjvUcioGnRDjrO9D54RrsSZUaqNi9/Hg0cUMq4QycNM/Tu1bAdVTt3e2QIx1ZbtzhhXfPi+LXgTUFwno29zGnNeZK0mYxkRoQ2gRbF/nd1E/lVevxryNciB8=; Message-ID: <194214.81853.qm@web114501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: tOxN_yQVM1mCmakQMgAYER8hFDz5GEHdQqG0pXA4._Dxkzs k9izjS_bkeKE1XlYBwcE1F1Z0CXemiVsJ9gFPLKAqLCIMUJWVSm0GVefDra4 RABNt7J_5BFGicuBE_EmbgsXM8W3D0WDA3ouhGqMeMNOXLKuhdN4GiEqlDdI gCO.qz8602mryV99ozt8mTQcDESjteDNpWNtUc4gR.0V593CG96TNtdJA6fb erJmY4BjS4cka9M7d1SlTvRdLA_WC6dM0.mjM6Gltys.quk1L7.mRSIus37_ 6LBiCB99QAUpnCNyVzze.pGDRypxx6k9Z9Ef5CoJShb8yNECRiegxsHfbTpo 8YlebtSe6DCMXy_j7mn3Kx.BloSitDz2G7WyTbOH1s2DX9yk- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <20101111082513.qyb70fgxq84wwo0g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <8CD4FDC9EBD0DC7-16D0-CD6@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:29:43 -0800 (PST) From: George Demarest Subject: Re: small battery powered, stereo amp.....ORANGE MICRO CRUSH 6S To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8CD4FDC9EBD0DC7-16D0-CD6@webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1796150167-1289518183=:81853" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:29:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-1796150167-1289518183=:81853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've used 2 Roland Microcubes with pretty good results. Another approach I've used in the past is a big, badass boombox (that's 4 'b's, I believe). I haven't shopped for one of those recently, so I dont have a recommendation, but one has to believe that there are some decent ones out there that might work for you. regards, gfd ________________________________ From: "nemoguitt@aol.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, November 11, 2010 10:25:50 AM Subject: small battery powered, stereo amp.....ORANGE MICRO CRUSH 6S http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MicroCrush6S/ anyone try one of these?.....might be a good set up for my kit.....as of late i've been just taking my little fender champ and the M13 for small gigs.....i am a stereo whore! so i was thinking 2 of these puppies might be the ticket..... woosh.....they are cheap enuf, $89.00 + $15.00 for the power supply.....any thoughts?????.....tanks! --0-1796150167-1289518183=:81853 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I've used 2 Roland Microcubes with pretty good results.  

Another approach I've used in the past is a big, badass boombox (that's 4 'b's, I believe).  
I haven't shopped for one of those recently, so I dont have a recommendation, but
one has to believe that there are some decent ones out there that might work for you.

regards,

gfd


From: "nemoguitt@aol.com" <nemoguitt@aol.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, November 11, 2010 10:25:50 AM
Subject: small battery powered, stereo amp.....ORANGE MICRO CRUSH 6S

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MicroCrush6S/
anyone try one of these?.....might be a good set up for my kit.....as of late
i've been just taking my little fender champ and the M13 for small gigs.....i am a stereo whore!
so i was thinking 2 of these puppies might be the ticket.....<woosh
> woosh.....they are cheap enuf,
$89.00 + $15.00 for the power supply.....any thoughts?????.....tanks!

--0-1796150167-1289518183=:81853-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 11 23:35:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2469B3BE8E; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4FB7CC70-73C7-406B-B2AB-BBF794AC4189@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--173813291 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:35:15 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:35:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--173813291 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit andy butler wrote: > Calm down now folks. I agree, people need to be more patient with leading edge technology. If you want to be the first kid on your block to own the happin' new gizmos, unless its coming from a long established large manufacturer, and even thats no guarantee, you have to expect a certain amount of growing pains. Keith's thing is really cool in spite of my initial disappointing first impression at NAMM in January which was based on my own particular needs, such as needing two 1/4 exp pedal ports, instead of one 1/8, and lack of onboard midi in and out and need for a midi break out box and no way of powering it other than via usb to a computer....obviously it wasn't designed for my hardware looper. Thats OK I know I'm trailing edge:-) The X/Y axis capability seems like it opens up cool possibilities for effects morphing but way to squirrely for loop triggering, and then there was the soft feel which seems ideal for looping with open mics but is a bit different to get the feel of. But regardless if I was doing the lap top mambo it would be a no brainer to own, I still want one, if I can find a way to remotely power it via usb withought a lap top in the mix. But I could tell from the editor librarian that it wasn't going to be a walk in the park to get it up and running. Such is the nature of hi tech products with remakably deep architecture, like the Soft Step. When I first got my Gordius, the manual was confusing and I was frustrated and unaware that you need to have the librarian to program it, and I spent a few very frustrating evenings not getting it to respond, and feeling like I made a huge mistake, before I wrote to Xavier who graciously talked me down from the ledge, sent me several banks of consecutive pc numbers and set the global (1/4) expression pedal ports. Then it was a breeze once i realized i simply had to ignore and not programm the extra functionality I wasn't going to be using. And then.... I had to get used to the response difference between the FCB and the Gordius, which was a bit like moving from a VW bug to a Ferrari in terms of both quickness of response and sensitivity. There was definitly a period of adjustment. But I haven't regretted a thing. New Zoe wrote: i just need to make my scene changes go easier, and to figure out how not to brush the lower keys with my foot and set them off. thinking i might make a rubber wedge to tilt it up. I also have occasional trigger issues due to the proximity of switches on the LG and that was another concern with the Soft Step I had, but I have had success with mounting the unit at an angle on a pedal board to raise the second tier slightly which helps a bit, and the same thing occured to me that my solve your issue Zoe. A Very low angle is needed and something with mucho friction like rubber. Or perhaps get something like this http://prostagegear.com/products/pedalboards/mini/ though it would add two pounds to your freight weight, you could get oversized rubber feet to create a more radical angle, and it would keep the softstep for scooting across the floor. Bill --Apple-Mail-3--173813291 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  andy butler = wrote:
Calm down now folks.
I agree, = people need to be more patient with leading edge = technology.  If you want to be the first kid on your block to = own the happin' new gizmos, unless its coming from a long established = large manufacturer, and even thats no guarantee, you have to expect a = certain amount of growing pains. Keith's thing is really cool in = spite of my initial disappointing first impression at NAMM in January =  which was based on my own particular needs, such as needing =  two 1/4 exp pedal ports, instead of one 1/8, and lack of onboard = midi in and out  and need for a midi break out box and no way of = powering it other than via  usb to a computer....obviously it = wasn't designed for my  hardware looper.  Thats OK I know I'm = trailing edge:-)  The X/Y axis capability seems like it opens up = cool possibilities for effects  morphing but way to squirrely =  for loop triggering, and then there was the soft feel which seems = ideal for looping with open mics  but is a bit different to get the = feel of.  But regardless if I was doing the lap top mambo it = would be a no brainer to own, I still want one,  if I can find a = way to remotely power it via usb withought a lap top in the mix. But I = could tell from the editor librarian that it wasn't going to be a walk = in the park to get it up and running. Such is the nature of hi tech = products with remakably deep architecture, like the Soft = Step. 
  When I first got my Gordius, the = manual was confusing and I was frustrated and unaware that you need to = have the librarian to program it, and I spent a few very frustrating = evenings  not getting it to respond, and feeling like I made a huge = mistake,  before I wrote to Xavier who graciously talked me down = from the ledge, sent me several banks of consecutive pc numbers and set = the global  (1/4) expression pedal ports. Then it was a breeze once = i realized i simply had to ignore and not programm the extra = functionality I wasn't going to be using.  And then.... I had to = get used to the response difference  between the FCB and the = Gordius, which was a bit like moving from a VW bug to a Ferrari in terms = of both quickness of response and sensitivity. There was definitly a = period of adjustment. But I haven't regretted a thing.
New Zoe = wrote:
i just need to make my scene changes go easier, and to = figure out how not to brush the lower keys with my foot and set them = off. thinking i might make a rubber wedge to tilt it = up.
 I also have occasional trigger issues due to = the proximity of switches on the LG and that was another concern with = the Soft Step I had, but I have had success with mounting the unit at an = angle on a pedal board  to raise the second tier slightly which = helps a bit, and the same thing occured to me that my solve your issue = Zoe.  A Very low angle is needed and something with mucho friction = like rubber. Or perhaps get something like this http://prostag= egear.com/products/pedalboards/mini/ though it would add two = pounds to your freight weight, you could get oversized rubber feet to = create a more radical angle, and it would keep the softstep for scooting = across the = floor. 
Bill

= --Apple-Mail-3--173813291-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 12 01:34:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 425863BE92; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 01:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ynkhz9+3j/PxhAr6PLihayjkMhVt98Ry9qR/lF+6flQ=; b=QJTmQvHeY0mJzg1pkNdGQc3L/eCiMFSvnUNIllj6rAZLq05u5nrrvBy0dklX+XAkLN 1tJukxMRKUBxq6/vdhWl3poIYg+3g3Jy6HHaqgJMtGURKUGckl5lV0yJes4SjMy0Qecw UBQQClIUBmu9OCt0xHeSh+bWENN8tXFqxPgng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tAFhlvEyodGrp0txTR5Rbd4CNG8cXXG0n4wlzPFAv6HVj4E5IvQ+EdziccMbmiHv+H E1ptKikFggvZPBrLuMii/NXxXji+4qgDchHGwgxAUl6K8xE7TtblTwvQRhyvU4iWBJyp 4bduItDRYhSZ3WM72xPjOMGiw7CxcRZX8Ml9k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4FB7CC70-73C7-406B-B2AB-BBF794AC4189@baymoon.com> References: <4FB7CC70-73C7-406B-B2AB-BBF794AC4189@baymoon.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:33:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: softstep. anyone using it successfully? From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce003eca366320494d115cf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 01:34:01 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce003eca366320494d115cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 per said: *if I can find a way to remotely power it via usb withought a lap top in the mix* No, they ship it with an adapter so the usb can be plugged into an outlet instead of a computer. This thing is intended to work stand alone... they just haven't supported that functionality yet. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:35 PM, William Walker wrote: > andy butler wrote: > > Calm down now folks. > > I agree, people need to be more patient with leading edge technology. If > you want to be the first kid on your block to own the happin' new gizmos, > unless its coming from a long established large manufacturer, and even thats > no guarantee, you have to expect a certain amount of growing pains. Keith's > thing is really cool in spite of my initial disappointing first impression > at NAMM in January which was based on my own particular needs, such as > needing two 1/4 exp pedal ports, instead of one 1/8, and lack of onboard > midi in and out and need for a midi break out box and no way of powering it > other than via usb to a computer....obviously it wasn't designed for my > hardware looper. Thats OK I know I'm trailing edge:-) The X/Y axis > capability seems like it opens up cool possibilities for effects morphing > but way to squirrely for loop triggering, and then there was the soft feel > which seems ideal for looping with open mics but is a bit different to get > the feel of. But regardless if I was doing the lap top mambo it would be a > no brainer to own, I still want one, if I can find a way to remotely power > it via usb withought a lap top in the mix. But I could tell from the editor > librarian that it wasn't going to be a walk in the park to get it up and > running. Such is the nature of hi tech products with remakably deep > architecture, like the Soft Step. > When I first got my Gordius, the manual was confusing and I was > frustrated and unaware that you need to have the librarian to program it, > and I spent a few very frustrating evenings not getting it to respond, and > feeling like I made a huge mistake, before I wrote to Xavier who graciously > talked me down from the ledge, sent me several banks of consecutive pc > numbers and set the global (1/4) expression pedal ports. Then it was a > breeze once i realized i simply had to ignore and not programm the extra > functionality I wasn't going to be using. And then.... I had to get used to > the response difference between the FCB and the Gordius, which was a bit > like moving from a VW bug to a Ferrari in terms of both quickness of > response and sensitivity. There was definitly a period of adjustment. But I > haven't regretted a thing. > New Zoe wrote: > i just need to make my scene changes go easier, and to figure out how not > to brush the lower keys with my foot and set them off. thinking i might make > a rubber wedge to tilt it up. > I also have occasional trigger issues due to the proximity of switches on > the LG and that was another concern with the Soft Step I had, but I have had > success with mounting the unit at an angle on a pedal board to raise the > second tier slightly which helps a bit, and the same thing occured to me > that my solve your issue Zoe. A Very low angle is needed and something with > mucho friction like rubber. Or perhaps get something like this > http://prostagegear.com/products/pedalboards/mini/ though it would add two > pounds to your freight weight, you could get oversized rubber feet to create > a more radical angle, and it would keep the softstep for scooting across the > floor. > Bill > > --000e0ce003eca366320494d115cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable per said:

if I can find a way t= o remotely power it via usb withought a lap top in the mix

<= span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;">No, th= ey ship it with an adapter so the usb can be plugged into an outlet instead= of a computer. =A0This thing is intended to work stand alone... they just = haven't supported that functionality yet.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:35 P= M, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
=A0andy butler wrote:=
Calm down now folks.<= /font>
I agree, people need to be more patient with = leading edge technology.=A0=A0If you want to be the first kid on your block= to own the happin' new gizmos, unless its coming from a long establish= ed large manufacturer, and even thats no guarantee, you have to expect a ce= rtain amount of growing pains.=A0Keith's thing is really cool in spite = of my initial disappointing first impression at NAMM in January =A0which wa= s based on my own particular needs, such as needing =A0two 1/4 exp pedal po= rts, instead of one 1/8, and lack of onboard midi in and out =A0and need fo= r a midi break out box and no way of powering it other than via =A0usb to a= computer....obviously it wasn't designed for my =A0hardware looper. = =A0Thats OK I know I'm trailing edge:-) =A0The X/Y axis capability seem= s like it opens up cool possibilities for effects =A0morphing but way to sq= uirrely =A0for loop triggering, and then there was the soft feel which seem= s ideal for looping with open mics =A0but is a bit different to get the fee= l of.=A0=A0But regardless if I was doing the lap top mambo it would be a no= brainer to own, I still want one, =A0if I can find a way to remotely power= it via usb withought a lap top in the mix. But I could tell from the edito= r librarian that it wasn't going to be a walk in the park to get it up = and running. Such is the nature of hi tech products with remakably deep arc= hitecture, like the Soft Step.=A0
=A0=A0When I first got my Gordius, the manual was confusing and I was = frustrated and unaware that you need to have the librarian to program it, a= nd I spent a few very frustrating evenings =A0not getting it to respond, an= d feeling like I made a huge mistake, =A0before I wrote to Xavier who graci= ously talked me down from the ledge, sent me several banks of consecutive p= c numbers and set the global =A0(1/4) expression pedal ports. Then it was a= breeze once i realized i simply had to ignore and not programm the extra f= unctionality I wasn't going to be using. =A0And then.... I had to get u= sed to the response difference =A0between the FCB and the Gordius, which wa= s a bit like moving from a VW bug to a Ferrari in terms of both quickness o= f response and sensitivity. There was definitly a period of adjustment. But= I haven't regretted a thing.
New Zoe wrote:
<= div>i just need to make my scene changes go easier,= and to figure out how not to brush the lower keys with my foot and set the= m off. thinking i might make a rubber wedge to tilt it up.
=A0I also have occasional trigger issues due to the proximity of= switches on the LG and that was another concern with the Soft Step I had, = but I have had success with mounting the unit at an angle on a pedal board = =A0to raise the second tier slightly which helps a bit, and the same thing = occured to me that my solve your issue Zoe. =A0A Very low angle is needed a= nd something with mucho friction like rubber. Or perhaps get something like= this=A0http://prostagegear.com/products/pedalboards/mini/=A0thou= gh it would add two pounds to your freight weight, you could get oversized = rubber feet to create a more radical angle, and it would keep the softstep = for scooting across the floor.=A0
Bill


--000e0ce003eca366320494d115cf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 12 02:58:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C0FE3BE98; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 02:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:58:05 -0400 Subject: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 02:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Here's my review. http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress/?p=125 What do you think? Andre http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 12 04:42:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07EDC3BE95; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 04:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--155407265 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: small battery powered, stereo amp.....ORANGE MICRO CRUSH 6S Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:42:01 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 04:42:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--155407265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This http://www.voxamps.com/us/da5/ would be a better choice with better sound, and decent effects, for slightly more money and that are being closed out to make way for this http://www.voxamps.com/us/mini3/ which is $99 everywhere. That and your champ would be a lil slice o stereo heaven........... the DA-5's are still available in the classic vox look at retail stores near you and all across the country like Santa Cruz California where coincidentally, I live. Bill --Apple-Mail-1--155407265 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  This http://www.voxamps.com/us/da5/ would be a better choice with better sound, and decent effects, for slightly more money and that are being closed out to make way for this http://www.voxamps.com/us/mini3/ which is $99 everywhere. That and your champ would be a lil slice o stereo heaven........... the DA-5's are still available in the classic vox look at retail stores near you and all across the country like Santa Cruz California where coincidentally,  I live.
Bill
--Apple-Mail-1--155407265-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 12 09:01:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25B4F3BE95; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 523048285/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.183.47/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.183.47 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtkBABuR3ExV0rcv/2dsb2JhbAAHlErMfoVKBI1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,186,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="523048285" Message-ID: <4CDD0274.1030902@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:01:40 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review References: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:01:41 +0000 (UTC) ok, you did ask......... The original mix you sent is already very heavily over compressed, hence there's no way to evaluate the mastering. Listen how when the drums come in the rest of the mix somewhat disappears. hope that's a useful perspective andy André Donawa wrote: > Here's my review. > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress/?p=125 > > What do you think? > > Andre > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 12 09:01:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA4F63BEA2; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary236481289552496602398" Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:01:36 +0100 From: "Johannes Korn" In-Reply-To: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Message-ID: <20101112090136.236480@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Subject: Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #13417443 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18+8u1TxN0+/o1gIq0PkuX/zLn2ykZN7PWS5I+3IB 2e0Pk39IHc5K9Ng6dEgXvI/PIByUNFNiC/zg== X-GMX-UID: RzTofRU0bUk7FdWI/mgnMZZsZ2hlNwrY Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:01:43 +0000 (UTC) --========GMXBoundary236481289552496602398 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi André, I don't know about the mastering (small crappy computer speakers here), but that is a beautiful song! All the best, Johannes > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:58:05 -0400 > Von: "André Donawa" > An: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" > > Betreff: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review > > Here's my review. > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress/?p=125 > > What do you think? > > Andre > > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > -- Johannes Korn - j.korn@gmx.de http://www.myspace.com/nashorn GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 €/mtl.! Jetzt auch mit gratis Notebook-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl --========GMXBoundary236481289552496602398 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi André,

I don't know about the mastering (small= crappy computer speakers here), but that is a beautiful song!

A= ll the best,
Johannes

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Thu, 11 Nov 201= 0 22:58:05 -0400
Von: "André Donawa" <andre@andred= onawa.com>
An: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" <Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Betreff: Coma - My instantsongmast= ering.com review

Here's my review.

http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress/?p= =3D125

What do you think?

Andre


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http://www.andredonawa.com
http:/= /cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa



--
Johannes Korn - = j.korn@gmx.de=0D
http://www.myspace.com/nashorn

GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 &euro;/mtl.! Jetzt auch mit
gratis N= otebook-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
--========GMXBoundary236481289552496602398-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 12 09:11:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C8E73BE95; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=OQ6XdRCE26yQAwKoNKOO7UEuDLerMUtj7wprinQZb4I=; b=N0g17eIPRjXYaIddxc4kLtLneL5VWKY0BnbKej9fpQJOm8TzXwqsGhwsxQKDFeioVU pdVTHo1scB1wbbqDHzL8/YqosTs0GIa9IDAP8PDIaJkP3zhDPJWSbYh76a+5PaakRhQ1 3gZIbrxfhnfpSWAkPyS8tMYCwDriviJYusfWo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=t02bJX1yJ0/2/bpynEASzCV+kk//WDOXe8Jl01xU92GrtJW1AQ1WnvcKaxG6PsxoIH KWHuXeUa4TRH10VsfLdpMvnbV49qbqwbJ7c5iYRFPeome2XNGIdLJ9KJbOBRRQAZkA64 E/NzqnFdfs7Ub1jjGOHNJqTkqVtUkQFvLVldQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:11:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zcDLizqacPDr6nM_EMaRkWALR_Y Message-ID: Subject: Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8fd00e56aa0494d77a04 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:11:35 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8fd00e56aa0494d77a04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Andre, but I=B4m with Andy here, except to say one ting, I think YOUR mix.. is great!! Its sounds pretty mastered to me.. it has some dynamics an= d lovely twinckly highs thats seems to be lost in the mastered one... the Instant Master sounds like a Radio Limiter to me... If I was you, I would trust your own ears here, cos they seems to be workin= g just fine... Mark On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:58 AM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" wr= ote: > Here's my review. > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress/?p=3D125 > > What do you think? > > Andre > > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8fd00e56aa0494d77a04 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Andre, but I=B4m with Andy here, except to say one ting, I think YOUR= mix.. is great!! Its sounds pretty mastered to me.. it has some dynamics a= nd lovely twinckly highs thats seems to be lost in the mastered one... the = Instant Master sounds like a Radio Limiter to me...


If I was you, I would trust your own ears her= e, cos they seems to be working just fine...

Mark<= /div>



--90e6ba6e8fd00e56aa0494d77a04-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 12 14:03:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FA6D3BE85; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CDD4917.1000508@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:03:03 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #710 for November 11, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:03:07 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/101111.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #710 November 11, 2010. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Dan Pound. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Night Watch" on Pound Sounds Records. I also played music by Chuck Van Zyl who will be playing at various concerts in the area. Visit the events page for details. Dan Pound: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#nov Events Page: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Van Zyl, Gulch, Rath Aural Explorations The Sound Museum (Groove) Ian Boddy Never Forever Pearl (DiN) Ian Boddy Walking the Slow Pearl (DiN) Path The Pels Syndicate End Games Cinematic Blue (AD Music) tBH Untitlled I Book o Salms (NoEcho) Rudolf Heimann Starring at the Sea Tide (Spheric Music) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Dan Pound Initiation Night Watch (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Gatekeeper's Song Night Watch (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Crack Between the Night Watch (Pound Sounds) Worlds Dan Pound Primal Erotic Night Watch (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Night Magic Night Watch (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound By the Stream at Night Watch (Pound Sounds) Twilight Dan Pound Little Smoke Night Watch (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Dreamer and the Night Watch (Pound Sounds) Dreamed Dan Pound Becoming Fluid Night Watch (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Night Watch Night Watch (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Taming the Ally Night Watch (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Path With a Heart Night Watch (Pound Sounds) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Dan Pound. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Lunar Effect" on Pound Sounds Records. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 12 14:15:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF26D3BE8C; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TVuTENtyZVgwPh6S6Sk0KyLCCJBf6jagbbTMr6OA4nQ=; b=W30XQ1qGXRwaN+qm3IYfxIpCP18oaPJRX5jxmwEiT9zgJ/ycjcnsPR0o7J2ZtMTsTA kHyZxCnB0cxbBellSrOzhPtF1hVkg5hZ3tmvFC2AqRJ0rRsHXRPBz20zS4QRa3sFJcNo MCm76x7jd6JganVend4Y6Kr0vZugWj9suNHj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O+UUHlZMKSAY4XeOFrzrZ/fh3LIvvU9Afunh/PAlUKRi4RhkacyDzwdlxyaCrHzKoN A3kqRhx9vvsi3JAVV4PYqF4Y30IbW5xq6YHRw3UDg759cgZKPWZFChur2SQjBdnPtTIM cuwYZOc5YJODzzP2WwMEcSDk67w0BAunDMe9w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CDBDB9E.9020300@tiscali.co.uk> References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> <4CDBDB9E.9020300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:15:38 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Great stuff Andy, those are some excellents tips and wicked tracks. I really appreciate the quantized insert, I'll have to try that out in mobius this weekend. I've dabbled a bit with 8th replace this summer when I took an intro course to electro-acoustic composition at SFU. I did a write-up of my experience on my blog, which may be of interest to some of you (not live livelooping, more like studio livelooping, if that makes any sense). http://no-insects.blogspot.com/2010/07/musique-concrete-with-bidule-and-mob= ius.html Sylvain On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:03 AM, andy butler wrote= : > >> Andy said > >>> One thing that the Looperlative does which helps this is that once you >>> have a footswitch set up to do an 8th replace >>> it responds in an interesting way to multiple taps. >>> It will automatically >>> do as many replaces as you do taps with a gap between each. >>> That makes it very easy to get some kind of recognizable rhythm >>> happening. > > William Walker wrote: >> >> =A0I found this out by not being able to control my habit of double tapp= ing, >> having not been raised on a sus command machine like the EDP, I've alway= s >> =A0gotten used to replace being a function you had to punch in and out o= f, >> =A0and realizing I had just added two sus replace notes. So Andy am I to >> understand that you were the guy who conceived of =A08th replace functio= n on >> the EDP? > > Well, Replace =A0was already in use and popular. > I certainly pushed for 8th Quantise in the EDP, and had the > idea, during loopIV development, that it would be nice if a single button > press neatly > Replaced just one chunk. > I also suggested the EDP behaviour that made that possible, although > that suggestion probably only got included by Matthias because it > was also a neat fix to a bug. > > With apologies to those who heard it already, here's the first > ever track to be recorded using 8th Replace, back in 2003 > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/backwater.mp3 > > watch out for the use of loop windowing about 2mins into the track > to hear the eight beat loop suddenly change into an evolving 8 bar > sequence. > >> For those just tuning in it =A0is the inspiration for the quantize repla= ce >> feature on the Looperlative, and can also be found in Mobius and Matthia= s' >> new EvoLoop which i saw the prototype of and was really excited by. > > Matt showed me the bits of it on Skype, very cool looking. > >> So my question, can you set the EDP's 8th replace function to a variety = of >> different beat divisions like you can on the LP-1? =A0I really love usin= g this >> technique over an 12, 10 or 9 beat subdivision, in addition to my most o= ften >> used 16. The looperlative's ability to go as high as a subdivision of 12= 8 >> makes it really interesting for crazy glitching over a short loop length= . >> Bill > > Sure, it depends on the 8th/Cycle setting. > > It's also possible to use a related trick called > Cycle Quantised SUS Insert. > You tap in a single beat short loop, then each foot tap > increases the length of the loop by a beat. > That means when you're bored of 5/8 you just drop > in a couple more beats and go to 7/8. > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/edp/tripwire.mp3 > > again, apologies for reposting that track (from 2004) > > > The thing I really like about these tricks is that people take them and > produce a result that is all their own. > Perhaps it's appropriate to see it as a compositional technique > > > Here's Rick Walker morphing a blast of noise into > something that sounds uncannily like a Hip Hop > track that was current at the time.(2008) > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/Norfest08/RW-Intro.mp3 > > Rick's using a Looperlative there. > > Other 8th replace users > Bernhard Wagner > Greg Poorman > Steve Lawson > Mark Francombe > Stephen Scott > > > > > andy butler > ps > and thanks to Bill for the excuse for writing this, > ..more excellent music involving 8th replace here > http://www.youtube.com/user/BillWalkerGuitar > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 12 16:07:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 273CE3BE93; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5e7c458d9ae6857a9b0749fa45fd9958.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20101112140307.B79C43BE95@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20101112140307.B79C43BE95@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:07:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: small battery powered, stereo amp.....ORANGE MICRO CRUSH 6S From: looppool@cruzio.com Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Bill Walker name checked the Vox DA5 I own an early 70s Fender Champ and the Vox DA5 and I have to say that the Vox DA5 blows away the Champ (could be my tubes or speaker are fatigued on the Champ to be honest) but love my Vox DA5. I'm blown away that it sounds this good for it's size, miniscule wattage (5) and it's price. I got mine in Red for $80 but I just priced them all over the web at $139. If Bill can get you one through Union Grove, I can't more highly recommend it. On top of that, you'll be supporting a bunch of cool artists who work there like mee bro and mee wife! Awesome amplifier in any color. Get two of 'em, Scoots.......you'll be in battery powered stereo heaven. Also, I put mine up on inexpensive keyboard stands (along with my battery powered Roland Bass amp which is the identical size) so that you can walk up to it to get that sweet feedback spot at very reasonable volumes. I split my guitar signal and run one through treble distortion effects and the other through bass distortion effects with an excellent Danelectro Chili Dog octaver. It's a mighty sound for such a small set up. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 12 16:38:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B0443BE81; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <40f1176a8484a777ff452fca9ba3452e.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <4CDD0274.1030902@tiscali.co.uk> References: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <4CDD0274.1030902@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:38:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Hey Guys, thanks for the feedback. Actually the only track that was heavily processed was my lead vocal. Also I don't have any compression or processing on my stereo out bus. Hmm...Maybe the drum samples I used (EZ Drummer) are compressed but they sounded fairly open to me. Rainer... I'll see if I can set something up on my site for a download. Andre On Fri, November 12, 2010 5:01 am, andy butler wrote: > ok, you did ask......... > > The original mix you sent is already very heavily over compressed, > hence there's no way to evaluate the mastering. > Listen how when the drums come in the rest of the mix > somewhat disappears. > > > > hope that's a useful perspective > > > > andy > > > > > André Donawa wrote: >> Here's my review. >> >> http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress/?p=125 >> >> What do you think? >> >> Andre >> > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 12 18:37:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B9F13BE8D; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:37:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <530919E3-71AC-486A-BBE0-6B223AFC30DC@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--105294489 References: From: Revfever Subject: Re: OT:Instant Song Mastering Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:37:14 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=6.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RDNS_NONE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on host.newworlddelivery.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host6.webserveralpha.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ubergadget.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:37:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--105294489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed This just in from a friend of mine who knows way far about this kind =20 of stuff than I do. I thought I'd share his thoughts with LD. Enjoy. Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland, OR http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever Begin forwarded message: >> > t's most likely a generic scheme (otherwise they'd promote the fact > that it covers different kinds of music) that resembles the processing > used for pop music on radio: a fast compression that maximizes > loudness and reduces dynamic range. It's like photos =97 you can make > most any snapshot "pop" as though removing a veil of smoke from the > image with a couple of steps. > > It's an interesting service model for the Web, I wonder how it will > develop. Of course it won't instantly make a really crap recording > marketable, and if they ever pitch it as such they'll be frauds. Even > us performer-composer-recordist-engineers can benefit from a savvy > mastering engineer's efforts, but it's doubtful a simple algorithm can > do anywhere near as good a job as a skilled human can for specific > recordings. --Apple-Mail-6--105294489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 This just in from a friend of mine who knows way far about this kind of = stuff than I do. I thought I'd share his thoughts with = LD. 
Enjoy.

Cheers,
Rev. = Fever
Portland, OR

Begin forwarded = message:

 =
t's most = likely a generic scheme (otherwise they'd promote the fact
that it covers different kinds of music) that = resembles the processing
used for pop = music on radio: a fast compression that maximizes
loudness and reduces dynamic range.  It's like photos =97 you = can make
most any snapshot "pop" as = though removing a veil of smoke from the
image = with a couple of steps.

It's an interesting service = model for the Web, I wonder how it will
  Of course = it won't instantly make a really crap recording
marketable, and if they ever pitch it as such = they'll be frauds.  = Even
us = performer-composer-recordist-engineers can benefit from a = savvy
mastering engineer's efforts, = but it's doubtful a simple algorithm can
do = anywhere near as good a job as a skilled human can for = specific
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 09:10:35 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review References: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <4CDD0274.1030902@tiscali.co.uk> <40f1176a8484a777ff452fca9ba3452e.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <40f1176a8484a777ff452fca9ba3452e.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 09:10:32 +0000 (UTC) André Donawa wrote: > Hey Guys, > > thanks for the feedback. > > Actually the only track that was heavily processed was my lead vocal. > Also I don't have any compression or processing on my stereo out bus. In that case I was fooled by the data reduction of the online demo combined with your choice of dynamics in the main section. (and also by the volume wars look of the graphic waveform display ;-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 13 17:11:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FED03BE84; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 17:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 18:11:47 +0100 From: chrisrover User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030401040906030603090401" x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:243536704:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29424cdec6d90fa7 X-AOL-IP: 84.185.57.105 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 17:11:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030401040906030603090401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, maybe this is something of interest for all or someone already has found a solution. I am looking for SIMPLE software (Macbook Pro OSX 10.4) to easily TRIGGER SEVERAL PRERECORDED SAMPLES (PREFERABLY MP3) from a controller (i.e. Korg Nano Pad) in addtition to my live looping performance. Similar to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2pP4FDZERE (Ean Golden with Korg Nano Pad and Traktor) The available hardware loopers (i.e. JamMan, RC50) are too slow in switching between several loops. The solution I'm looking for should allow one to easily compile a playlist of samples (maybe even drag and drop) and quickly assign them to a device such as the Nano Pad. Is there an easily solution out there ? Thanks in advance for your input ! Christian www.myspace.com/christianrover --------------030401040906030603090401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone,

maybe this is something of interest for all or someone already has found a solution.
I am looking for SIMPLE software (Macbook Pro OSX 10.4)
to easily TRIGGER SEVERAL PRERECORDED SAMPLES (PREFERABLY MP3)
from a controller (i.e. Korg Nano Pad) in addtition to my live looping performance.
Similar to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2pP4FDZERE
(Ean Golden with Korg Nano Pad and Traktor)

The available hardware loopers (i.e. JamMan, RC50) are too slow in switching
between several loops. The solution I'm looking for should allow one to
easily compile a playlist of samples (maybe even drag and drop)
and quickly assign them to a device such as the Nano Pad.
Is there an easily solution out there ?

Thanks in advance for your input !

Christian

www.myspace.com/christianrover

 --------------030401040906030603090401-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 13 17:22:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF3583BE8A; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 17:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=P52j6iZJvoEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=b8sYakTuAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=jvf4aCbKXFSeeAbVySgA:9 a=GRKVZ88SPtavjrTQKpqZbUw66fwA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <6BEC3635-C875-4825-AA7A-9C8A82B26C07@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 09:21:59 -0800 References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 17:22:00 +0000 (UTC) You might try this: Not nearly so full-featured as Traktor but cheap and it works. On Nov 13, 2010, at 9:11 AM, chrisrover wrote: > Hi everyone, > > maybe this is something of interest for all or someone already has > found a solution. > I am looking for SIMPLE software (Macbook Pro OSX 10.4) > to easily TRIGGER SEVERAL PRERECORDED SAMPLES (PREFERABLY MP3) > from a controller (i.e. Korg Nano Pad) in addtition to my live > looping performance. > Similar to this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2pP4FDZERE > (Ean Golden with Korg Nano Pad and Traktor) > > The available hardware loopers (i.e. JamMan, RC50) are too slow in > switching > between several loops. The solution I'm looking for should allow one > to > easily compile a playlist of samples (maybe even drag and drop) > and quickly assign them to a device such as the Nano Pad. > Is there an easily solution out there ? > > Thanks in advance for your input ! > > Christian > > www.myspace.com/christianrover From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 13 18:18:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65D813BE84; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 18:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=0D+J17pcPJY9ae4Vl51hdFyCIlRdJWuXKGXEabULjlQ=; b=W9Dvo3GXtK68yGd4ha3GPA9nccHHw19GTPpX+DeqfyFiFRyR5U5j+c+BHitT7nDRVz +qW22HSi59ymxFu4xXwNmBK4aYCA3b/ChVcgFFyYjIuuuEiqIJzf9zH1epaIaF0ObmQb C03pZ+Btkcf9co5ru3atigyMmNnaiOlvKela8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=vm0eq3GmJloFv2jehtZF51Sr2AOxKqHOu7RUukMdFrjM/ZzMB/koiHAMQ3QOIO6baE rn7dwCIZYcMdlcKO1JtPX0v9qRZZA28E0WrcFZDOOvgJSLNASIeqs0Y/QaIKp+qYRHsp 1mzuw0KMByeDl0PCgrw9vdgthDjQ6R/Vzso3o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <6BEC3635-C875-4825-AA7A-9C8A82B26C07@charter.net> References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> <6BEC3635-C875-4825-AA7A-9C8A82B26C07@charter.net> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 19:18:16 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fdjND2sDvZ5GWP9tXyKi6JMD7ms Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00235448f20952658f0494f33caa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 18:18:39 +0000 (UTC) --00235448f20952658f0494f33caa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would suggest Audio Mulch. It has a file player module that can play once or loop. Im pretty sure it accepts mp3... On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:21 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > You might try this: > > > > Not nearly so full-featured as Traktor but cheap and it works. > > > On Nov 13, 2010, at 9:11 AM, chrisrover wrote: > > Hi everyone, >> >> maybe this is something of interest for all or someone already has found= a >> solution. >> I am looking for SIMPLE software (Macbook Pro OSX 10.4) >> to easily TRIGGER SEVERAL PRERECORDED SAMPLES (PREFERABLY MP3) >> from a controller (i.e. Korg Nano Pad) in addtition to my live looping >> performance. >> Similar to this: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY2pP4FDZERE >> (Ean Golden with Korg Nano Pad and Traktor) >> >> The available hardware loopers (i.e. JamMan, RC50) are too slow in >> switching >> between several loops. The solution I'm looking for should allow one to >> easily compile a playlist of samples (maybe even drag and drop) >> and quickly assign them to a device such as the Nano Pad. >> Is there an easily solution out there ? >> >> Thanks in advance for your input ! >> >> Christian >> >> www.myspace.com/christianrover >> > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --00235448f20952658f0494f33caa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would suggest Audio Mulch. It has a file player module that can play once= or loop. Im pretty sure it accepts mp3...



On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:21 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@char= ter.net> wrote:
You might try this:

<http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/soundboard>

Not nearly so full-featured as Traktor but cheap and it works.


On Nov 13, 2010, at 9:11 AM, chrisrover wrote:

Hi everyone,

maybe this is something of interest for all or someone already has found a = solution.
I am looking for SIMPLE software (Macbook Pro OSX 10.4)
to easily TRIGGER SEVERAL PRERECORDED SAMPLES (PREFERABLY MP3)
from a controller (i.e. Korg Nano Pad) in addtition to my live looping perf= ormance.
Similar to this:

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY2pP4FDZERE
(Ean Golden with Korg Nano Pad and Traktor)

The available hardware loopers (i.e. JamMan, RC50) are too slow in switchin= g
between several loops. The solution I'm looking for should allow one to=
easily compile a playlist of samples (maybe even drag and drop)
and quickly assign them to a device such as the Nano Pad.
Is there an easily solution out there ?

Thanks in advance for your input !

Christian

www.mys= pace.com/christianrover




--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
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--00235448f20952658f0494f33caa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 00:46:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A7143BE8A; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 00:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:46:27 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <65DE5AA0-EF79-41E0-9488-7BD0277214E4@grubmah.com> References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> <4CDBDB9E.9020300@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 00:46:32 +0000 (UTC) I used to use the SUS replace trick fairly heavily when I was performing = with the EDP. (My Y2K6 set contains an extended example.) Following up = on a discussion at Y2KX about reaching out to a broader audience and = setting expectations, I've been mulling over why this trick whether on = EDP or Looperlative is all the rage in the Live Looping community, but = it would be surprising to see someone at a looping event simply = manipulating a sequencer. Is there a critical difference for the = audience in the sounds produced? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 00:51:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3217D3BE8A; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 00:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuAFAMvA3kxg+I5h/2dsb2JhbACUVo4AviyFSgSEWokJGg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,193,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="73892068" X-Previous-IP: 96.248.142.97 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Boss DR880? Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 18:52:55 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <-3d5YB.A.LPE.1Jz3MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 00:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Do any of you boys and girls use the Boss DR880 in your loopage? And, if so, how are you using it? This inquiring mind wants to know and would appreciate any feedback pro or con. Thank you, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 04:42:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 515303BE89; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 04:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GgnZCHUK+2gWqXmK4zzBDx80jLJnTx/ezhWOJ+C9yh8=; b=Z9rHNAQ0hnBZ6Z6bTL2Ssa0Or0JyZ2SpppCM6v6wxzTx+/GVJeSSTF9lCyO3z0oCpE DOoNPlMgb9ft80eSlqspPwZL/Rk2uKee9v7jLY42hhOVM98gqNrQwwEk/X7Un04yv6vp PZnx/HmvS3RynEbNRZJH2+AaE+Q+2QMa/bEZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qFRUvoWpGOLOd79bqJAgXgHwR573PSQ6MfTf53mxRUROJYNG6hVrLx5jMux+ghZPfS n5xPDqVnT/5pDC4u/RIAgFHA241GIgATTyRAkdMqLAO3FKrnmSQUFGSaz3woHiUj+DVs pwSyKU9dgVZ5yBt9HMY93Ma7+tmDbxoCIAEiI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:42:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boss DR880? From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce003ecf084b30494fbf106 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 04:42:06 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce003ecf084b30494fbf106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If you are in the market for one I have one I'd part with. I used to use it in my loopage. I would slave it to my Echoplex. I would program a whole song with bass and drum parts. To start the song and determine the tempo I would create a loop that was 1 bar in length and the song would begin when the clocks were sent. I could then play along and create loops in time with the beats. It worked pretty well for what I was doing at the time. I can see how it might be a convenient tool if you want to use it for a simple rhythmic backing to sync with a looper. It's great for that. You can loop to your heart's content over a nice steady beat. If you are thinking of taking it to the stage with song based verse, chorus, bridge stuff I would think again and look at using a computer. At one point the unit ran out of memory and I had to start deleting patterns. I think you can dump/backup the memory onto a computer and load stuff in, but when you do that you are loading in everything, not individual songs or patterns. This is problematic if you are building up a big set list of songs and relying on this thing to save all of them. If this is a tool more for practice and fun then maybe not a huge deal. The kits sound fairly decent and you can mix and match your own kits, mess with the pitch and eq of each drum with some interesting results. Ultimately though a computer allows greater control over the sound of the drums, and of course you can get a wider variety of kits on a computer. The computer interface is much easier to work with than the tiny LCD screen of the DR 880. Now that I use Logic Pro I can also control my Echoplex from Logic so that I don't have to worry about hitting the record or multiply or next loop (or whatever) button at the wrong time and botching the whole song. I can focus on playing now instead of pedal tap dancing. I also found that stringing together each drum pattern for each part of the song was difficult and time consuming, and it was time consuming to edit parts of the song. Again, much easier with a computer. The guitar/bass input, multi-effects, COSM amp models never sounded that great to me, so I never utilized that. So yeah, if you are still thinking about using one and are in the market for one, I would be willing to part with mine for below market price. Contact me off list whenever if you are ever interested. Adam On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > Do any of you boys and girls use the Boss DR880 in your loopage? And, if > so, how are you using it? > > This inquiring mind wants to know and would appreciate any feedback pro or > con. > > Thank you, > > Jeff > > --000e0ce003ecf084b30494fbf106 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you are in the market for one I have one I'd part with.

I used to use it in my loopage. =A0I would slave it to my Echo= plex. =A0I would program a whole song with bass and drum parts. =A0To start= the song and determine the tempo I would create a loop that was 1 bar in l= ength and the song would begin when the clocks were sent. =A0I could then p= lay along and create loops in time with the beats. =A0It worked pretty well= for what I was doing at the time. =A0

I can see how it might be a convenient tool if you want to u= se it for a simple rhythmic backing to sync with a looper. =A0It's grea= t for that. =A0You can loop to your heart's content over a nice steady = beat. =A0If you are thinking of taking it to the stage with song based vers= e, chorus, bridge stuff I would think again and look at using a computer. = =A0At one point the unit ran out of memory and I had to start deleting patt= erns. =A0I think you can dump/backup the memory onto a computer and load st= uff in, but when you do that you are loading in everything, not individual = songs or patterns. This is problematic if you are building up a big=A0set l= ist=A0of songs and relying on this thing to save all of them. =A0If this is= a tool more for practice and fun then maybe not a huge deal.

The kits sound fairly decent and you can mix and match = your own kits, mess with the pitch and eq of each drum with some interestin= g results. =A0Ultimately though a computer allows greater control over the = sound of the drums, and of course you can get a wider variety of kits on a = computer. The computer interface is much easier to work with than the tiny = LCD screen of the DR 880. =A0Now that I use Logic Pro I can also control my= Echoplex from Logic so that I don't have to worry about hitting the re= cord or multiply or next loop (or whatever) button at the wrong time and bo= tching the whole song. =A0I can focus on playing now instead of pedal tap d= ancing. =A0I also found that stringing together each drum pattern for each = part of the song was difficult and time consuming, and it was time consumin= g to edit parts of the song. Again, much easier with a computer.

The guitar/bass input, multi-effects, COSM amp models n= ever sounded that great to me, so I never utilized that.=A0

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So yeah, if you are still thinking about using one and are in the= market for one, I would be willing to part with mine for below market pric= e. Contact me off list whenever if you are ever=A0interested.

Adam

On Sat, N= ov 13, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:
Do any of you boys and girls use the Boss DR880 in your loopage? And, if so= , how are you using it?

This inquiring mind wants to know and would appreciate any feedback pro or = con.

Thank you,

Jeff


--000e0ce003ecf084b30494fbf106-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 07:25:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1D093BE8D; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 07:25:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Zo1wg0e1aJtGET0xlYKXoqlyTTRUQWZtTJBijtf2juE=; b=HogZO9nAQTRQTt3GrDiiwR6sj/lWK4pfcEXBahC4iTORZtmv1AdrlL0imuxFlQiaxZ A0BYAYWyCAyv4Xx/1q/OanLoJY2V4Je+zU3ch4Epkn8lEAbYh2DF83QJHMHkmncMJqUx tum54ZZGRSMZNViPWDzq4jrdylpHkDpQvbC4w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=stA0O8AM4Ew17jydZNVajgVh8tfy+TN/tzSOKTRI394XzKCwxH9MZkKVPeRqtrIVkk +G3ttdgwJJTlq5F8x4ninh8spKk4MHMw46utp+ZNwjRzHp4ovVLfFeT2QfQUQTFtwWYh 2RUNnwsm7sRMziwsRokdpIbMVjVS3h/HV9GGg= References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> <4CDBDB9E.9020300@tiscali.co.uk> <65DE5AA0-EF79-41E0-9488-7BD0277214E4@grubmah.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <65DE5AA0-EF79-41E0-9488-7BD0277214E4@grubmah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:25:25 +0100 Message-ID: <3585142308672308000@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 07:25:01 +0000 (UTC) Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 14 Nov 2010, at 01:46, Mark Hamburg wrote: I've been mulling over why this trick whether on EDP or Looperlative is all the rage in the Live Looping community, but it would be surprising to see someone at a looping event simply manipulating a sequencer. Is there a critical difference for the audience in the sounds produced? > > Mark Mybe not, but firstly i think its because replace is one of those techniques that pretty much shouts "i use a looper as an instrument, as opposed to a multi tracker. I believe these are the 2 main types of looping. And using replace is a bit of a statement. Your second point about a sequencer I think relates more to the nature of LIVE looping, and as such sequencers are a bit of a no no, not live us it??? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 10:19:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C0703BE8D; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vWsgnXc8BpjmUOC2nobr+3zxumdhQ1dgg/CJHEWdYZY=; b=bKTUS4s2+4RpSvMfXCd9x3d5fFUXnJ/NtfHJv68ZK/9rFmwM0S9xmIGjE1i9A43BUe kQD73BK6R8qql4p6DamWP2SbrGudCnSUUtlalmQj6Ux6mqrauJGGf4k0bJvSUyQzfLL9 CKiYamVFjBkhxBFTlkN3s7xLIE12fpHyU7hvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fPTVCjUv0lr+eN/yeSvnZ5sBAyJssj1EfiQVSPdHDwJf3lXZY4ba6a5XMKhwCXIgzn K6aFCAnSkIsKcY2yKBr+b81RpeSEQyJYDo+e5An5lfx2DT40m+Yc78Cg0QEOohntVPt5 AGQEAUmi97atpWvkHU7+KVATEZvcDtBvzEHWs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <65DE5AA0-EF79-41E0-9488-7BD0277214E4@grubmah.com> References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> <4CDBDB9E.9020300@tiscali.co.uk> <65DE5AA0-EF79-41E0-9488-7BD0277214E4@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:19:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:19:12 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > it would be surprising to see someone at a looping event simply manipulat= ing a sequencer. I think many loopists already use sequencing techniques in live looping. I first learned it from David Torn on this list about seven years ago. Back then the idea was to sequence pitch shifting of an ElectrixPro Repeater track according to pre defined sequence patterns, for which I was using an Alesis MMT8 sequencing box. I remember Bill Walker used this trick at the Z=C3=BCrich looping festival in 2005 using the arpeggiator of his MIDI guitar setup. At the same time I started to apply that "Repeater track sequencing trick" to the EDP by setting up foot pedals to trigger sequence patterns that control EDP actions like Speed and Substitute. Also around 2005 I found out that the Mobius software looper allows you to sequence looper actions in scripts and I could then migrate the whole live looping and sequencing shebang to fit into just a laptop. For the last five years I've been working out musically useful sequences of looper actions as Mobius scripts. When performing with such a setup the sounding musical result depends on what sequence the player activates and what audio he/she feeds the looper with. Example: If running a speed script in Overdub mode three process are conducted at the same time: (1) melody is played on the source instrument, (2) the loop is manipulated to sound different (3) the loop will sound different on the next loop around, as the played melody will become a - speed pattern shifted - layer of the loop. --> Live Sequencing I too think it would be cool to see/hear more of live sequencing at live looping concerts. What I mean with "live sequencing" is that the performer manipulates the patterns of the sequencer while it's running, not just picks one pattern to throw at the looper. But since we are talking live performance without pre recorded audio material this concept definitely touches what is possible for one musician to handle in real-time (we are not squids with three brains). One can also do live sequencing without playing instruments as source audio for looping, but then the target for the sequencer must be gear like MIDI synths, mixer and effects. A software product that supports this performance technique is Numerology for OS X. Here's an example live sequencing improvisation I once did with Numerology and a small FaderFox hand mixer: http://www.box.net/shared/9f6cov0qh2. Simpler forms of live sequencing can be seen by checking out the Tenori On on YouTube. A guy that builds his own rigs to combine live sequencing and looping is Tim Exile, you can search him out on YouTube for example videos. I think the reason not more performers use sequencing at live looping concerts simply is that it is more fun to play an acoustic or electric instrument as source audio for looping than to push buttons and turn knobs. ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 10:48:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2345F3BE89; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'chrisrover'" , References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> Subject: RE: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:48:02 +0100 Message-ID: <289D3FB500B1426CAC2A7C505D32CF54@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003C_01CB83F1.CB835550" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcuD5zIr5K659JiqTN+W8JAyvRWr1gAAh/Eg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.4.98; VDF: 7.10.13.237) Resent-Message-ID: <5eLrcD.A.47.m573MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:48:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CB83F1.CB835550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been using the file player in Plogue Bidule for this task, in combination with the NanoKontrol. -Michael _____ From: chrisrover [mailto:chrisrover@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 6:12 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software Hi everyone, maybe this is something of interest for all or someone already has found a solution. I am looking for SIMPLE software (Macbook Pro OSX 10.4) to easily TRIGGER SEVERAL PRERECORDED SAMPLES (PREFERABLY MP3) from a controller (i.e. Korg Nano Pad) in addtition to my live looping performance. Similar to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2pP4FDZERE (Ean Golden with Korg Nano Pad and Traktor) The available hardware loopers (i.e. JamMan, RC50) are too slow in switching between several loops. The solution I'm looking for should allow one to easily compile a playlist of samples (maybe even drag and drop) and quickly assign them to a device such as the Nano Pad. Is there an easily solution out there ? Thanks in advance for your input ! Christian www.myspace.com/christianrover ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CB83F1.CB835550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've been using the file player in Plogue Bidule for this = task, in=20 combination with the NanoKontrol.  -Michael

From: chrisrover = [mailto:chrisrover@aol.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 6:12 PM
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Wanted: Simple = Multiple=20 Sample Playback Software

Hi = everyone,

maybe this is=20 something of interest for all or someone already has found a = solution.
I am=20 looking for SIMPLE software (Macbook Pro OSX 10.4)
to easily = TRIGGER=20 SEVERAL PRERECORDED SAMPLES (PREFERABLY MP3)
from a controller = (i.e. Korg=20 Nano Pad) in addtition to my live looping performance.
Similar to=20 this:

http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DY2pP4FDZERE
(Ean Golden with Korg Nano Pad and = Traktor)

The=20 available hardware loopers (i.e. JamMan, RC50) are too slow in=20 switching
between several loops. The solution I'm looking for = should allow=20 one to
easily compile a playlist of samples (maybe even drag and = drop)=20
and quickly assign them to a device such as the Nano Pad.
Is = there an=20 easily solution out there ?

Thanks in advance for your input=20 !

Christian

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 ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CB83F1.CB835550-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 11:11:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 958A43BE90; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tZO4HMmNYgepUNYUOSA1iYsePvVpJOUdDLW7YHR3k9A=; b=cO507Nx8+Oobzp7fDRaO6PBw9zswiffUFfpEd9y6SePA9Yyu6vFN9VzJy84w36MJot iT6RgFUdEtkQ5HhwfN4F9KtpGv3YB+6f40PanwVVi/0Hs6NBNwsUfnv3Mw+VwTpM1byz 9gRBtNMXIshaX4gQ5Fc3LVe6vVBoLvANvfzXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=duQuVOQiYTpsWIZ5P4vsEEfvywOzH3QJ8j4p991V8yWgd2k6PckYxIPbvDRZhOgNUL lvR9pItcJQ3oePylB88k8I0wM6CdWw8fDIfSWU0SPhWWSJZMtExFoWGWqM8em6uNgBiD /8VMFrUqOwi5rRl8+R5Y95hxGPS1x/xOQTqOw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <289D3FB500B1426CAC2A7C505D32CF54@mpeserver> References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> <289D3FB500B1426CAC2A7C505D32CF54@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:11:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-CLHU.A.BdB.4P83MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:11:52 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > I've been using the file player in Plogue Bidule for this task, in > combination with the NanoKontrol.=C2=A0 -Michael Me too. But I hesitated to post since I wasn't sure it would qualify as "simple" ;-)) I mean, it is part of Bidule. Like for example "Playback" is part of Mainst= age. But a simple way would be to use iTunes. Can't you automate its Play button with an Apple Script? Not very accurate timing though, if we are talking percussive short samples here? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 11:27:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 056C23BE90; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=JI8sWNhgtaLSurGaSnPmtHpxdryYYkbRp8ckjhB86Pc=; b=sKF3ZMxJndBVTLEAtONq6RCtxQjshNT492WMKeq4HhyKdEgZhgHsERPsPLWZL/Q+ht XVPhxjkXcmnyMb/hQCxrgDoMJeX571J3se/flJ2bKGzmvWgMdjxW4wtqe37t5u5aTKLI sqYvOObGIEJNyDGFi8fv/IWstK6UeUeXL7QUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Ex9OeynFX1NJP1t3VSuFbDLcw4o89PXOOchCu2NaPdxHPEOjo8TVe6F3P3YK4eC07T vnCO4WVxsPBWZlZZnKyQXooWG/pBNa6cTpYeXc3pcCM9dulj02Wx3jouIlQy7Lls6Mhd 8AuQZeV32zn71W4NGrVOBBAQmcj96vYZKxZAc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> <289D3FB500B1426CAC2A7C505D32CF54@mpeserver> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:27:06 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7VR6PzN0nnmdpFtSiCvGdqhpSI0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8fd0b58e660495019b06 Resent-Message-ID: <1Cluk.A.wwB.fe83MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:27:27 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8fd0b58e660495019b06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thats why I mention Audio Mulch... Is simple 1. drag a file player (or loop player) into the patching window 2. connect wires to output (investigate a mixer at this stage if you will) 3. Open Parameter Control window (Here you connect stuff up to hardware) 4. Select the "Active" Parameter for the File player (Dont know what they dont call it "PLAY") and midi learn. 5. Hit yer thing... I tested with a keyboard... Which is nice cos a different ket can launch a different clip 6. Do yer gig On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > > I've been using the file player in Plogue Bidule for this task, in > > combination with the NanoKontrol. -Michael > > > Me too. But I hesitated to post since I wasn't sure it would qualify > as "simple" ;-)) > I mean, it is part of Bidule. Like for example "Playback" is part of > Mainstage. > > But a simple way would be to use iTunes. Can't you automate its Play > button with an Apple Script? Not very accurate timing though, if we > are talking percussive short samples here? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8fd0b58e660495019b06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thats why I mention Audio Mulch... Is simple

1. drag a file player (= or loop player) into the patching window

2. connect wires to output = (investigate a mixer at this stage if you will)

3. Open Parameter Co= ntrol window (Here you connect stuff up to hardware)

4. Select the "Active" Parameter for the File player (Dont kn= ow what they dont call it "PLAY") and midi learn.

5. Hit y= er thing... I tested with a keyboard... Which is nice cos a different ket c= an launch a different clip

6. Do yer gig

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at= 12:11 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> I've been using the file player in Plogue Bidule for this task, in=
> combination with the NanoKontrol.=A0 -Michael


Me too. But I hesitated to post since I wasn't sure it would qualify as "simple" ;-))
I mean, it is part of Bidule. Like for example "Playback" is part= of Mainstage.

But a simple way would be to use iTunes. Can't you automate its Play button with an Apple Script? Not very accurate timing though, if we
are talking percussive short samples here?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




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--90e6ba6e8fd0b58e660495019b06-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 11:30:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 879AE3BE93; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 532567948/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.111/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.111 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQBAE1X30xYbRJv/2dsb2JhbAAHlFPLP4VKBI1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,195,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="532567948" Message-ID: <4CDFC848.1070305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:30:16 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> <4CDBDB9E.9020300@tiscali.co.uk> <65DE5AA0-EF79-41E0-9488-7BD0277214E4@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <65DE5AA0-EF79-41E0-9488-7BD0277214E4@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3IiDX.A.G2B.Ch83MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > I used to use the SUS replace trick fairly heavily when I was performing with the EDP. Quantised? At one time the unquantised version was all the rage. > (My Y2K6 set contains an extended example.) Following up on a discussion at Y2KX >about reaching out to a broader audience and setting expectations, >I've been mulling over why this trick whether on EDP or Looperlative is >all the rage in the Live Looping community, but it would be surprising > to see someone at a looping event simply manipulating a sequencer. >Is there a critical difference for the audience in the sounds produced? There are many differences, but as to whether those differences are relevant to an individual audience member I've no idea. What appeals to me is the ability to create a dialog between loop and (usually) guitar. Also the ability to produce a radically different sound to the usual available pallet without carrying any more gear. The only time I've had potential audience decide looping wasn't for them on technical grounds was due to them being convinced that the loop would be static and unchanging, and that this would be boring for them. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 11:35:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A1843BE93; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 532569043/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.111/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.111 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQBAG9Y30xYbRJv/2dsb2JhbAAHlFPLPIVKBI1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,195,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="532569043" Message-ID: <4CDFC99D.7070408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:35:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> <289D3FB500B1426CAC2A7C505D32CF54@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:35:50 +0000 (UTC) hows that different to "complicated" Bidule? mark francombe wrote: > Thats why I mention Audio Mulch... Is simple > 1. drag a file player (or loop player) into the patching window > 2. connect wires to output (investigate a mixer at this stage if you will) > 3. Open Parameter Control window (Here you connect stuff up to hardware) > 4. Select the "Active" Parameter for the File player (Dont know what > they dont call it "PLAY") and midi learn. > 5. Hit yer thing... I tested with a keyboard... Which is nice cos a > different ket can launch a different clip > 6. Do yer gig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 11:50:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DFC03BE93; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2fff3348-3f75-4dda-a48c-0ed714cfc28a_" X-Originating-IP: [86.165.2.237] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:50:36 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4CDFC99D.7070408@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> <289D3FB500B1426CAC2A7C505D32CF54@mpeserver> ,<4CDFC99D.7070408@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2010 11:50:37.0083 (UTC) FILETIME=[270F4EB0:01CB83F2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:50:38 +0000 (UTC) --_2fff3348-3f75-4dda-a48c-0ed714cfc28a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think it depends on your mindset. I found Bidule unusably complex but too= k to AM straight away. Horses for courses and all that.. Peace G > Date: Sun=2C 14 Nov 2010 11:35:57 +0000 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software >=20 > hows that different to "complicated" Bidule? >=20 > mark francombe wrote: > > Thats why I mention Audio Mulch... Is simple > > 1. drag a file player (or loop player) into the patching window > > 2. connect wires to output (investigate a mixer at this stage if you wi= ll) > > 3. Open Parameter Control window (Here you connect stuff up to hardware= ) > > 4. Select the "Active" Parameter for the File player (Dont know what=20 > > they dont call it "PLAY") and midi learn. > > 5. Hit yer thing... I tested with a keyboard... Which is nice cos a=20 > > different ket can launch a different clip > > 6. Do yer gig >=20 = --_2fff3348-3f75-4dda-a48c-0ed714cfc28a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think it depends on your mindset. I found Bidule unusably complex but too= k to AM straight away. Horses for courses and all that..

Peace
G

>=3B Date: Sun=2C 14 Nov 2010 11:35:57 +0000
>=3B From: a= kbutler@tiscali.co.uk
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
= >=3B Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software
>= =3B
>=3B hows that different to "complicated" Bidule?
>=3B
&= gt=3B mark francombe wrote:
>=3B >=3B Thats why I mention Audio Mulc= h... Is simple
>=3B >=3B 1. drag a file player (or loop player) into= the patching window
>=3B >=3B 2. connect wires to output (investiga= te a mixer at this stage if you will)
>=3B >=3B 3. Open Parameter Co= ntrol window (Here you connect stuff up to hardware)
>=3B >=3B 4. Se= lect the "Active" Parameter for the File player (Dont know what
>=3B = >=3B they dont call it "PLAY") and midi learn.
>=3B >=3B 5. Hit ye= r thing... I tested with a keyboard... Which is nice cos a
>=3B >= =3B different ket can launch a different clip
>=3B >=3B 6. Do yer gi= g
>=3B
= --_2fff3348-3f75-4dda-a48c-0ed714cfc28a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 12:48:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E3CC3BE9E; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=sX6zgTqbEbR0Q0HBu72pGyc1mBXUSS/Skl8HY/ulH6w=; b=UazXrwjx9WNSccSkrLBQjrDBHI+eXovs36eqzhSe+fnyKglwd2IPRYCSvJSBtzwSyu frmx91aN2UxfqYLXqQelovNYYtGvr261YHRjbcCMMGVS8+X6nF9oOM/PzLpv/tmTPEN9 O/sEqzMlQQKxOaIjlAOYj/NUO8aM35SiJWPDI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=iqM+m+aEeIIGb/OzW2hbxF+I0rJ0qwnUm5huQLeapkaKHht9nMI8dbP8AMCuTIQoyd IV/ASYJdHMYC3G+huHyJkfRF9nIWndlpv6aqr7S4x7avapIkGQvmhZKaIdPa3E7I/0TE fpQ4R4ijZ8YO2nrFVkykIWB5otgG2jCGrYiek= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> <289D3FB500B1426CAC2A7C505D32CF54@mpeserver> <4CDFC99D.7070408@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:48:02 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NiarNFePRcyzDRBqzvmlFcuif68 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8914203f10049502bde8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:48:24 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8914203f10049502bde8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 me too... Im pretty sure they are basically simerlar... maybe it depends on which one you start on? I have dipped into Bidule many times... and dipped out again, wheas AM seemed like a breeze, and had exactly the level of complexity I needed for what I needed to achive, whease Bidule always seems TOO deep, and like I had to spend time building my tool from scratch. No however, Im really a bit into software and am dying to get some time away from SoftStep troubles to build some realy complicated and unfeasably strange things in Bidule, that are probably NOT achievable in AM. M On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I think it depends on your mindset. I found Bidule unusably complex but > took to AM straight away. Horses for courses and all that.. > > Peace > > G > > > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:35:57 +0000 > > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software > > > > > hows that different to "complicated" Bidule? > > > > mark francombe wrote: > > > Thats why I mention Audio Mulch... Is simple > > > 1. drag a file player (or loop player) into the patching window > > > 2. connect wires to output (investigate a mixer at this stage if you > will) > > > 3. Open Parameter Control window (Here you connect stuff up to > hardware) > > > 4. Select the "Active" Parameter for the File player (Dont know what > > > they dont call it "PLAY") and midi learn. > > > 5. Hit yer thing... I tested with a keyboard... Which is nice cos a > > > different ket can launch a different clip > > > 6. Do yer gig > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8914203f10049502bde8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable me too...

Im pretty sure they are basically simerlar...=A0 maybe it = depends on which one you start on? I have dipped into Bidule many times... = and dipped out again, wheas AM seemed like a breeze, and had exactly the le= vel of complexity I needed for what I needed to achive, whease Bidule alway= s seems TOO deep, and like I had to spend time building my tool from scratc= h.

No however, Im really a bit into software and am dying to get some time= away from SoftStep troubles to build some realy complicated and unfeasably= strange things in Bidule, that are probably NOT achievable in AM.


M

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:50 P= M, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
I think it depends on your mindset. I found Bidule unusably complex but too= k to AM straight away. Horses for courses and all that..

Peace
G

> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:35:57 +0000
> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk=
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Wanted:= Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software
=
>
> hows that different to "complicated" Bidule?
>= ;
> mark francombe wrote:
> > Thats why I mention Audio Mul= ch... Is simple
> > 1. drag a file player (or loop player) into th= e patching window
> > 2. connect wires to output (investigate a mixer at this stage if = you will)
> > 3. Open Parameter Control window (Here you connect s= tuff up to hardware)
> > 4. Select the "Active" Paramete= r for the File player (Dont know what
> > they dont call it "PLAY") and midi learn.
> > = 5. Hit yer thing... I tested with a keyboard... Which is nice cos a
>= ; > different ket can launch a different clip
> > 6. Do yer gig=
>



--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.com/user825094
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--90e6ba6e8914203f10049502bde8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 14:39:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD7523BEA2; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 532649195/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.111/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.111 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQBAJ+C30xYbRJv/2dsb2JhbAAHlFTLdIVKBI1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,195,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="532649195" Message-ID: <4CDFF497.9060904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:39:19 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> <289D3FB500B1426CAC2A7C505D32CF54@mpeserver> ,<4CDFC99D.7070408@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Marks HowTo there looks *very* similar to what would happen in Bidule. I'm not familiar with AudioMulch. Is AM a little bit more like a Cubase/Ableton type software in that a lot of the work is done for you, but you don't get to route everything exactly as you might conceivably want? The "drawback" with Bidule being that you have to hook up absolutely everything yourself? ...just curious. andy Gareth Whittock wrote: > I think it depends on your mindset. I found Bidule unusably complex but > took to AM straight away. Horses for courses and all that.. > > Peace > > G > > > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:35:57 +0000 > > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software > > > > hows that different to "complicated" Bidule? > > > > mark francombe wrote: > > > Thats why I mention Audio Mulch... Is simple > > > 1. drag a file player (or loop player) into the patching window > > > 2. connect wires to output (investigate a mixer at this stage if > you will) > > > 3. Open Parameter Control window (Here you connect stuff up to > hardware) > > > 4. Select the "Active" Parameter for the File player (Dont know what > > > they dont call it "PLAY") and midi learn. > > > 5. Hit yer thing... I tested with a keyboard... Which is nice cos a > > > different ket can launch a different clip > > > 6. Do yer gig > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 14:43:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 280553BEA6; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8c4qfKkpskDEpN2O1VmBGwpdWO6bwQ+xhXh+iyy7NVQ=; b=rlbipMucL99I37PzF4ewuQJnsaetsgjvvkZpLfU1ZEvjM80Kily14pi7kpLoUDH6qF cxBFBtb0Kxqa6D9q9yfft9dhGLsx2sRcjZ+6T9JUp6pqS2gPz2EQg+y9yzn/kDNfPhjR Z9uDRGRa13JJu8oqGTKlDfNB0xsjVgHwATPK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=MoezK+jTC0AO4q/QS4P2ItvWG3x2CYJgypbWbJaIGa8sKbK0Cdhs1J1ZYIoDU83NiT x08vT4Uczkb+jLR725IZ+S0rhjvW/nM45sGEumDITb/HeCSgENmyVrslL0aNKBXErJff xPQRFjv9VTQRIRITPF8IORQnUlFbsZ4PORd7Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> <289D3FB500B1426CAC2A7C505D32CF54@mpeserver> <4CDFC99D.7070408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:43:29 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a912cf05050495045899 Resent-Message-ID: <4h5Fz.A.MPG.RW_3MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:43:30 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a912cf05050495045899 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i don't think it's midi, but Soundplant39 might be worth a look http://www.soundplant.org/index.html --000e0cd6a912cf05050495045899 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 i don't think it's midi, but Soundplant39 might be worth a look

http://www.soundplant.org/index.html


--000e0cd6a912cf05050495045899-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 15:02:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0AD83BE99; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3M59Y27xCzj292LEIpMCgzH838UbS2Pj5AbLVYRgkBE=; b=FF8FUBNBuC6dG0wXesQVk+AUk0KXiiWjGDdgxVzHqvtGInMr6DQG8eLbo3UR9lEq1z SIxtO/rFueoxhVKXWXpainaXLBoyyqLLzm2NDISe5CvF+jkeTq0W68sAneePW+DxTCMQ oLE4mbDwULNJHHabIANVOiikbbGnEF4w/ldVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=do183T2w5n96CAtzZv6OHedNvZ+ZhS7mNO29VF9+LIxYucylelNCamm5bipZMvv73b 3GAv8dSx4pabkWyN0HUTOXEe7g712tYCNxHS2Zi6aUnWAY2sPJgvcN1YqupDhQ1eCv6z jam9HzAlc/Qvz+asj9UJMMkLQXE+39qqG1zw8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CDFF497.9060904@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> <289D3FB500B1426CAC2A7C505D32CF54@mpeserver> <4CDFC99D.7070408@tiscali.co.uk> <4CDFF497.9060904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:02:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <4eFlO.A.poG.wn_3MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:02:08 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 3:39 PM, andy butler wrote: > Marks HowTo there looks *very* similar to what > would happen in Bidule. > > I'm not familiar with AudioMulch. Mark gave me a good AudioMuch walk-through in Santa Cruz and I would say that your assumptions are correct. To me AudioMuch seems to be like Bidule if it also had a default Groups Library. A "Group" in Bidule is a system of signal path patches and processes. You can create, save and share - by exporting and importing - Groups for Bidule. But there is no default library as AudioMuch comes with. Cubase is not good examples because it offers no such "Group thingy", only separate plug-ins. Ableton Live's "Rack" functionality is more in line with "Macros" in AudioMuch. Hmmm... maybe Channel STrips, as used in Logic and Mainstage, could qualify for a tiny bit - but the point in AudioMulch is that its Macros can be used for "morphing" i.e. fiddling a joystick to access value changes for a lot of addressed parameters in one go. Like you can set up in Bidule too, if you have time at hand... ;-) In Mainstage you can achieve a bit of that by setting up a number of control objects that are set to listen to the same external controller but address different parameters inside the software/plugins/mixer. It seems the time needed to patch stuff up is what keeps some users away from Bidule. I can see the point in having the Macro library at hand in AudioMulch. I can also see the point in Bidule, not being forced to clog up the screen with more stuff than you actually want to use. For using Bidule you need to know in advance what you want to do, while AudioMuch can be used for exploring audio processing that you have not planned; like "let's see what happens if I touch that button there...? Ah cool, I'll write a tune with that sound". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 17:20:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 099CC3BEA9; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9127B19B-8E21-4DF8-832C-5A8BC766AE41@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-62909003 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:20:37 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:20:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-62909003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Mark H said: > I used to use the SUS replace trick fairly heavily when I was > performing with the EDP. Hmmmm funny, I don't recall what you did with it sounding like the stuff I've been doing with it. But perhaps you were using it in the context of longer loops which doesn't really create the same kind of percolating beat sequences as using a short loop will. It will just sound like you are replacing big chunks out of a long loop. But perhaps that's why its such a cool technique: in different hands the result is different. Why I like this better than a sequencer or an arpeggiator like I used to use with my GR30 and repeater, is because there is simply nothing predetermined or fixed about quantize replace other than the chosen beat subdivision, everything else related to key and note value is wide open. I can take the same beat division and play the same group of notes in the same order,and never get the exact same results twice. For this aspect alone I find it a source of endless fun and fascination. Bill --Apple-Mail-1-62909003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark H = said:
I used to use the SUS replace trick fairly = heavily when I was performing with the EDP.

Hmmmm = funny, I don't recall what you did with it sounding like the stuff I've = been doing with it. But perhaps you were using it in the context of = longer loops which doesn't really create the same kind of percolating = beat sequences as using a short loop will. It will just sound like you = are replacing big chunks out of a long loop. But  perhaps that's = why its such a cool technique:  in different hands the result is = different. Why I like this better than a sequencer or an arpeggiator = like I used to use  with my GR30 and repeater, is because there is = simply nothing predetermined or fixed about quantize replace other than = the chosen beat subdivision, everything else related to key and note = value is wide open. I can take the same beat division and play the same = group of notes in the same order,and never get the exact same results = twice. For this aspect alone I find it a source of endless fun and = fascination.
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-1-62909003-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 17:25:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8AF53BEBE; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <567DE641-0B78-47B9-9C8C-7EB5484644F9@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: : Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:25:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:25:23 +0000 (UTC) completely unrelated to this , how are you doing Andre? I saw in the paper that a hurricane passed over your lovely Island, everything ok? Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 17:37:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA9263BE92; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <3585142308672308000@unknownmsgid> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:37:31 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0A4906E5-7727-4205-BD83-EE6ADEEA728A@grubmah.com> References: <51532895-4850-4C11-90DD-281085408B27@baymoon.com> <4CDBDB9E.9020300@tiscali.co.uk> <65DE5AA0-EF79-41E0-9488-7BD0277214E4@grubmah.com> <3585142308672308000@unknownmsgid> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:37:33 +0000 (UTC) On Nov 13, 2010, at 11:25 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Mybe not, but firstly i think its because replace is one of those > techniques that pretty much shouts "i use a looper as an instrument, > as opposed to a multi tracker. I believe these are the 2 main types of > looping. And using replace is a bit of a statement. Your second point > about a sequencer I think relates more to the nature of LIVE looping, > and as such sequencers are a bit of a no no, not live us it??? Per picked up on this, but I should perhaps clarify that by sequencers I = meant the old traditional step sequencers. Turn the knobs and adjust the = adjust the note sequence. =46rom an aural standpoint, it's pretty = similar to the replace effect. =46rom a visual standpoint, maybe it is = more fun watching guitar players look at their feet, their fretboards, = etc. -- I'm guilty on that one -- though maybe a really big Tenori-On = style instrument would make for good audience eye-candy. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 17:58:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 288063BEB9; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=IDFu9jxRrNNlljcRDu1Zhvp1FUjqnx8GCrzSqhMctLJ6ZzUQU8/ZgrOlJOpcE7Qp; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:58:08 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a1d91c4e41eee2028fbd7d1c3c3f2c1d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Apparently it's bunk: http://www.3daudioinc.com/3db/showthread.php?20941-Automatic-mastering-No-waiting.&p=226072#post226072 >Here's my review. > >http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress/?p=125 > >What do you think? > >Andre > > >http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress >http://www.andredonawa.com >http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa >http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 18:09:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 923FC3BEC1; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-247-65844282 Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:09:33 -0800 In-Reply-To: <9127B19B-8E21-4DF8-832C-5A8BC766AE41@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <9127B19B-8E21-4DF8-832C-5A8BC766AE41@baymoon.com> Message-Id: <60431322-C201-463F-A484-8CE227CC4B5E@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:09:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-247-65844282 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 14, 2010, at 9:20 AM, William Walker wrote: >> Mark H said: >> I used to use the SUS replace trick fairly heavily when I was = performing with the EDP. >=20 > Hmmmm funny, I don't recall what you did with it sounding like the = stuff I've been doing with it. But perhaps you were using it in the = context of longer loops which doesn't really create the same kind of = percolating beat sequences as using a short loop will. It will just = sound like you are replacing big chunks out of a long loop. But perhaps = that's why its such a cool technique: in different hands the result is = different. Why I like this better than a sequencer or an arpeggiator = like I used to use with my GR30 and repeater, is because there is = simply nothing predetermined or fixed about quantize replace other than = the chosen beat subdivision, everything else related to key and note = value is wide open. I can take the same beat division and play the same = group of notes in the same order,and never get the exact same results = twice. For this aspect alone I find it a source of endless fun and = fascination. Looking back, I guess it doesn't show up as much as I thought it did. = But there's a really prominent section about 8 minutes into Y2K6: http://grubmah.com/music/y2k6.mp3 Mark --Apple-Mail-247-65844282 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Mark H = said:
I used to use the SUS replace trick fairly = heavily when I was performing with the EDP.

Hmmmm = funny, I don't recall what you did with it sounding like the stuff I've = been doing with it. But perhaps you were using it in the context of = longer loops which doesn't really create the same kind of percolating = beat sequences as using a short loop will. It will just sound like you = are replacing big chunks out of a long loop. But  perhaps that's = why its such a cool technique:  in different hands the result is = different. Why I like this better than a sequencer or an arpeggiator = like I used to use  with my GR30 and repeater, is because there is = simply nothing predetermined or fixed about quantize replace other than = the chosen beat subdivision, everything else related to key and note = value is wide open. I can take the same beat division and play the same = group of notes in the same order,and never get the exact same results = twice. For this aspect alone I find it a source of endless fun and = fascination.

Looking back, I = guess it doesn't show up as much as I thought it did. But there's a = really prominent section about 8 minutes into = Y2K6:


Mark

= --Apple-Mail-247-65844282-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 18:12:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B56B3BED6; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-248-65999668 Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:12:08 -0800 In-Reply-To: <60431322-C201-463F-A484-8CE227CC4B5E@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <9127B19B-8E21-4DF8-832C-5A8BC766AE41@baymoon.com> <60431322-C201-463F-A484-8CE227CC4B5E@grubmah.com> Message-Id: <8CA503F1-5727-4609-84CA-5A4FF8E9A0BD@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: <7NoILD.A.guC.6ZC4MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:12:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-248-65999668 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Nov 14, 2010, at 9:20 AM, William Walker wrote: >=20 >>> Mark H said: >>> I used to use the SUS replace trick fairly heavily when I was = performing with the EDP. >>=20 >> Hmmmm funny, I don't recall what you did with it sounding like the = stuff I've been doing with it. But perhaps you were using it in the = context of longer loops which doesn't really create the same kind of = percolating beat sequences as using a short loop will. It will just = sound like you are replacing big chunks out of a long loop. But perhaps = that's why its such a cool technique: in different hands the result is = different. Why I like this better than a sequencer or an arpeggiator = like I used to use with my GR30 and repeater, is because there is = simply nothing predetermined or fixed about quantize replace other than = the chosen beat subdivision, everything else related to key and note = value is wide open. I can take the same beat division and play the same = group of notes in the same order,and never get the exact same results = twice. For this aspect alone I find it a source of endless fun and = fascination. >=20 > Looking back, I guess it doesn't show up as much as I thought it did. = But there's a really prominent section about 8 minutes into Y2K6: >=20 > http://grubmah.com/music/y2k6.mp3 Seems to actually start around 7:20. Mark --Apple-Mail-248-65999668 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Nov 14, 2010, at = 9:20 AM, William Walker wrote:

Mark H = said:
I used to use the SUS replace trick fairly = heavily when I was performing with the EDP.

Hmmmm = funny, I don't recall what you did with it sounding like the stuff I've = been doing with it. But perhaps you were using it in the context of = longer loops which doesn't really create the same kind of percolating = beat sequences as using a short loop will. It will just sound like you = are replacing big chunks out of a long loop. But  perhaps that's = why its such a cool technique:  in different hands the result is = different. Why I like this better than a sequencer or an arpeggiator = like I used to use  with my GR30 and repeater, is because there is = simply nothing predetermined or fixed about quantize replace other than = the chosen beat subdivision, everything else related to key and note = value is wide open. I can take the same beat division and play the same = group of notes in the same order,and never get the exact same results = twice. For this aspect alone I find it a source of endless fun and = fascination.

Looking back, I = guess it doesn't show up as much as I thought it did. But there's a = really prominent section about 8 minutes into = Y2K6:


Seems to actually start = around = 7:20.

Mark


= --Apple-Mail-248-65999668-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 18:13:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A10923BEE2; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=54uw+/VlkTd2O5jSlb+Qv0yqG9IjtbJIS3Ry3N7OxJM=; b=oXdL/LEER0XvICcH7HT1O0l7Q1Ykt72P8K1biHDJqzIkuCl+zRMsMDtm5kFRI34Q4R sa8TPzE+VB/vFu7akiuEgTPRiIiztCjGTLVbPJWBlZ17zjUks3QccPEO5QmLFDFFGr82 QzhMYJ9drN8Ti6OxNbWhEL0SDGtHQ8hEh9c6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VMttJedUKb4Z9lHZPBeB8BlTAC0lJBSt4S6nnfDTEiSupPcvqqbD8u+k5k192k3/PL UR+4yYV3zc/xv0TKtYHAW8lEcu2BDtJT03w+wY7mWwazvILDs8WR3NxpyrSO7OIsXBbb iIlA3cMcI6XZCDUFiIpfwNj8denJNs3FiXjPs= Message-ID: <4CE026B6.4000809@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:13:10 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review References: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:13:05 +0000 (UTC) After checking Andrés files (he was so nice to supply both wav files to me for analysis), I came to the same conclusion: while it's not exactly the same (really minimum differences which I won't claim to be able to hear, but which can be found when looking at some audio analysis results), it's not something your track will benefit from. Rainer Charles Zwicky schrieb: > Apparently it's bunk: > > http://www.3daudioinc.com/3db/showthread.php?20941-Automatic-mastering-No-waiting.&p=226072#post226072 > > >> Here's my review. >> >> http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress/?p=125 >> >> What do you think? >> >> Andre >> >> >> http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress >> http://www.andredonawa.com >> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa >> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 19:54:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 741A33BEC7; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=PjTbTpWtJY6yejGrNYzJp7CCD0UzuXCtaKMOQWEXNts=; b=WxTzvmDYUeyFUAMH3y/f8h4HtCDz2dYvwpP1V2kbk8l8ID6FthvgAPggI1t6WM2BqQ thevHqwUTWq4tKO8Ll6GA33TQsD5tu72VNiqkrVXcUP2KRPYFV4Yr3dhlJqyIemLztHs 4ugJi21dcOt2/F/cWaHNHFIj+nkMcNgFUPffc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=f8yBS+V9GezBR6O1pvHzP09CfVW9Jq9qBxNWdhVazsi3IVLuZvyZUqUbLREo/jeUJ5 anhTW5f5BLZfvl0juUb+V7MUJj5x+6WWAJQB6yi2veWCAqFaN/6K542JnJyfGD/Ux+CY QDEINE97Duh3ICE4PrRu6L6xYBaNxKujmnBdA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> <289D3FB500B1426CAC2A7C505D32CF54@mpeserver> <4CDFC99D.7070408@tiscali.co.uk> <4CDFF497.9060904@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:54:06 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fokUaOxHoz8cEoecKWfZ2zUVvnQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d44b2da3f5d049508b0a8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:54:28 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301d44b2da3f5d049508b0a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pers run down is basically correct, strange non-mulch terminology, but explanatory. I think trying to compare it with either Abelton or mainstage is basically flawed, although I must say that I do use AM a bit like some use Abelton, when I think about it, its just such a HUGE difference. @Andy I dont think its true to say that you can=B4t patch it how you want, = its built in modules have all the right ins and outs and midi connections, and imported VSTs (no AUs) reveal all their ins and outs, for you to connect willy nilly (great underused expression). But what would be true to say is that the modules are PRE built modules, like a looper, or a fuzz, or a delay, and in AM you dont have any more access than the ins and outs. (In that respect like Mainstage I suppose) The advantage of Bidule (or Synthedit which I use, but want to switch to Bidule) or max/msp or pd, or supercollider , if you can call it an advantage, is that you can build your own.. er thingy, that is a dual phase fuzz switch decade delay with fairy nibbliting on odd outputs and brink basting hobgobblins on the even outputs, with parameters being continuously varied based on skin resistance, proximity to mobile phone radiation, and analysis of words beginning with G. And after three months of development, a workshop in STEIM, a grant application, you discover it sounds a bit like SUS Replace... Anyone wanna try my VST=B4s, PC only.. very odd... may not still work... http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D375 Mark --20cf301d44b2da3f5d049508b0a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pers run down is basically correct, strange non-mulch terminology, but expl= anatory.

I think trying to compare it with either Abelton or mainst= age is basically flawed, although I must say that I do use AM a bit like so= me use Abelton, when I think about it, its just such a HUGE difference.

@Andy I dont think its true to say that you can=B4t patch it how you wa= nt, its built in modules have all the right ins and outs and midi connectio= ns, and imported VSTs (no AUs) reveal all their ins and outs, for you to co= nnect willy nilly (great underused expression).
But what would be true to say is that the modules are PRE built modules, li= ke a looper, or a fuzz, or a delay, and in AM you dont have any more access= than the ins and outs. (In that respect like Mainstage I suppose)
The advantage of Bidule (or Synthedit which I use, but want to switch to Bi= dule) or max/msp or pd, or supercollider , if you can call it an advantage,= is that you can build your own.. er thingy, that is a dual phase fuzz swit= ch decade delay with fairy nibbliting on odd outputs and brink basting hobg= obblins on the even outputs, with parameters being continuously varied base= d on skin resistance, proximity to mobile phone radiation, and analysis of = words beginning with G.

And after three months of development, a workshop in STEIM, a grant app= lication,=A0 you discover it sounds a bit like SUS Replace...

Anyone= wanna try my VST=B4s, PC only.. very odd... may not still work...
http://www.mar= kfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D375


Mark
--20cf301d44b2da3f5d049508b0a8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 19:55:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46D743BEC0; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 868909.30290.bm@omp1041.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1289764522; bh=b+t0Sih9+8vmV6n7gUAJa8o5/gQsy0SYuEf3HV41rME=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iFQy7ZrIy3Zopb0V02yBGlHiws33PG69HbN5pVsn5DnSdsIISw2DHWfHtuae9d5JHiPXKW/HpjQ4ySCwcxxrj3c4KILiwObcxLFKPqYcvQ4AfnzxCWCJeYw7CgZjuqhUEzPX86PYgblZ4x+VzZBDA9Zcixoc2LKpE2ydgVgaf+g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LmF4koD0fucMWCc1Ocw4sWs+klMOLK0QMuNC2Ci/F8jiQJXDc9k9bDUDDgfSpMr6la2vFv5L3s2jE9XNODpGb9u/MghA9Jf9tgDfH2ZFupIo2v3hsbe+d1LJGgE2Q6RwKhLQD0uZapyzxFQWXbVDc5caX39cUcImxVtQ3FCR3UE=; Message-ID: <654689.49634.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: H1FSfY0VM1kVMenBmGeaaDL5M1nlXb9Ps5QA5e.IdV9FxW1 Qn8RFKvGbJ.Eac0f8WHufd4cbXswmQhkmfzO6AcOhmgd_8.K0bQ7_LRS7zar SRSWEUBq5neHEfKOiMG8UWD.Gh9YZekqRv_JH904DP96mJfkqpsZR21fUTpR EQ2ODbr6KJAVsBL8AIMW6fv9KOIFUKpxQaTdkkz8bzirDRIirgf3.m0x_X0z 9kQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:55:22 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Boss DR880? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1415853395-1289764522=:49634" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:55:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-1415853395-1289764522=:49634 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Adam, You suggest using computer for your drum parts, can you give suggestions for windows based software to do this? Thanks, Eric --0-1415853395-1289764522=:49634 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Adam,

You suggest using computer for your drum parts, can you give suggestions for windows based software to do this?

Thanks,
Eric


--0-1415853395-1289764522=:49634-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 20:07:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0778D3BEC7; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wRhEErJmQDEByzazc+YsM1tKqZ5r+4z7sQ4MiYzBiZo=; b=H38oF3t8fSG1dLNABTvyG9VPoW8o7V4qnL1WEuXKKVmk5a2mVaLp5KVlMtCLGFnJ5n m8PM2AFamcr4nf4/LCkZGmi99SEZb+O1T9CcSg7NV0cVwsYqNgAq4MMO/ZO1VsjTM7+n wgVsMTNi/qFjZxphBTKqICI43v84LFY+3v4Pg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=d2MXzdgIx2Xg2UcSiXr3VDQ37ZVb659bHZ8m0r9pkhBW34TlNlGJafzFf0EOPVGhx+ OwgtL7i7LBjZ1/e0MY4JWJslfYONlbg8qiRWwrnbspfnnB0xpNgU7eqJhG3KdQu3hm8S YBHX4s7SfwnudBKCzW30V0vJHxoatH/qHFj1Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <654689.49634.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <654689.49634.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:07:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boss DR880? From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d253b108b3d049508df36 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:07:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d253b108b3d049508df36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use a mac for all my music stuff, so I'm very unqualified to advise on anything Windows. Sorry! On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:55 PM, E Gross wrote: > Hi Adam, > > You suggest using computer for your drum parts, can you give suggestions > for windows based software to do this? > > Thanks, > Eric > > > --0016364d253b108b3d049508df36 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use a mac for all my music stuff, so I'm very=A0unqualified to advise= on anything Windows. =A0Sorry!

On Sun, N= ov 14, 2010 at 12:55 PM, E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Adam,

You suggest u= sing computer for your drum parts, can you give suggestions for windows bas= ed software to do this?

Thanks,
Eric



--0016364d253b108b3d049508df36-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 20:26:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 251883BEC9; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=DMWzFmVRkLsZblMMiP4xLsT7bVM2MMAa4grSJWL6hO0=; b=qbmZZCRvmjGUBSJipNDa4PH5WmQTQ7+nMWH7u/GMmv3Ga2b/CCs2ii4suT05yJUeaO VVSSAjPNmkyE/iBur5YSSocNLKjwqGy5yKeHOrFKpWoyi+TjvavLAa9ZdZJDcGZOXE45 JL5zRdPSCoo92F7WQkq3Q1PyzBb1bXKSyB7vY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=AGZag/zMV5nyIrQoJTotb3BJjSV6ZHMuMsEVQFbCCfiAGqOXom1Z9mD2BYUMFXbH0t +USc2SmW/FPOVkkc4ecWfxb7rdm+TJwQV+4vntqRHfdKwwOTEJwmhoOTodjdUae3GGV5 BrsPw6o/B5LqipHoD+8jwFCJBzqnJT+T4RoMY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8CA503F1-5727-4609-84CA-5A4FF8E9A0BD@grubmah.com> References: <9127B19B-8E21-4DF8-832C-5A8BC766AE41@baymoon.com> <60431322-C201-463F-A484-8CE227CC4B5E@grubmah.com> <8CA503F1-5727-4609-84CA-5A4FF8E9A0BD@grubmah.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:26:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ChMtEwAlJ-3r-UlroILP-u3au9k Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e891437ed91049509236c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:26:26 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e891437ed91049509236c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 JEEZE MARK... Now that is a fucking fantastic wah... what is it? how much it cost? and where did you get it? do they have any more?, do they ship? how fast???? I need me one of them muthafuckers!!! .. ah now I got to the replacing.. neato Mark > > http://grubmah.com/music/y2k6.mp3 > > > Seems to actually start around 7:20. > > Mark > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e891437ed91049509236c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable JEEZE MARK... Now that is a fucking fantastic wah... what is it? how much i= t cost? and where did you get it? do they have any more?, do they ship? how= fast????
I need me one of them muthafuckers!!!

.. ah now I got t= o the replacing.. neato

Mark
Seems to actually start around 7:20.

Mark





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--90e6ba6e891437ed91049509236c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 20:30:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED6DA3BEDE; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=cBvN+irSUF0Ffw88LqetrunPp6yWpyqv7hr6BVIL19U=; b=pcrO6hGXg9Bpjnw95TvGoQbgTeW7wbm3cP5xzf+shuqBstoEFKJmBKVoW/I6PWgUmp l4Zag8gM8s/4er5aZZKA9dFFLwBR5SfEg7J+CCwkzOatbHWj2V7KKzOfbdRCEBMl78Yo bLv3dSGXFQAQ8bZ0IHHkCWTbbMj/D5CF82fVI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=DoZ7R377R2+0+XSe9GZ9YS557TB4PLeO6idocAjIZZpHQgdQo76vv5owy55nysAK9o H+nTS+zZumlmXpX0weLH1Hm5bfnhoAdDEAJWcojQR3mLHrc/I0DzOS30Lshlg3X2xaZ+ UUs3q5PRJR3WtMmB9a92pX4i/vDcRuzVPhzes= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4CE026B6.4000809@googlemail.com> References: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <4CE026B6.4000809@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:30:35 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wdNJp-U6cKyonmB1LTzIiHjAKuc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8fd05fe52a0495093309 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:30:57 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8fd05fe52a0495093309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 They were not the same Rainer, I definitely heard differences, but whether they were correct or good, is very debatable, I certainly preferred Andres mix. As I think I said, it sounded like a Radio Limit to me... bit muffled... I wonder what happens if you give them a really shitty sounding mix? Worth a try for a laugh? Merzbow anyone? M -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8fd05fe52a0495093309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They were not the same Rainer, I definitely heard differences, but whether = they were correct or good, is very debatable, I certainly preferred Andres = mix. As I think I said, it sounded like a Radio Limit to me... bit muffled.= .. I wonder what happens if you give them a really shitty sounding mix? Wor= th a try for a laugh? Merzbow anyone?

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http://www.looop.no
--90e6ba6e8fd05fe52a0495093309-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 20:55:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1034C3BEF3; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <59C256E9-C815-4134-8029-2DD73B566279@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-75806051 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:55:34 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:55:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-75806051 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Then again, I might have been running around at the time dealing with stuff and missed it and it was 4 years ago so I can't trust my memory anyway. and after listening to your track I can hear it as being that technique. I think I just mentioned it a while back as a technique that was relative to everyone, else not new, though it was relative to me, very new and I was exploring its possibilities. In fact this past year's recordings are loaded with this technique. Thanks bill Looking back, I guess it doesn't show up as much as I thought it did. But there's a really prominent section about 8 minutes into Y2K6: http://grubmah.com/music/y2k6.mp3 Mark --Apple-Mail-1-75806051 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Then again, I might have = been running  around at the time dealing with stuff and missed = it and it was 4 years ago so I can't trust my memory anyway. =  and after listening to your track I can hear it as being that = technique.  I think I just mentioned it a while back as a technique = that was relative to everyone, else not new, though it was relative to = me,  very new and I was exploring its possibilities. In fact this = past year's recordings are loaded with this = technique. 
Thanks
 bill






Looking back, I guess it doesn't show up as much as I thought it = did. But there's a really prominent section about 8 minutes into = Y2K6:


Mark

= --Apple-Mail-1-75806051-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 21:34:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF63F3BECA; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=N2cvhmt8n2rcN6ISXxgTI4z8AFudavaAnCMRi2QmtN0=; b=kmnyvwmesP3yLxgV6tzWd4XmC3kuiQ1D3fTGyhVNzUiV9bmt5oJQfK1poOPHjfydLp zY2xFlvI2wS9ONZC/bWFxdVQFc1li/v++hq6fGh3J3MhZS7/iGlJfX85J9B7rk+fPFdI 9bTHR4AmPYznzK424hsQRxpCNHSQIHWrjfbto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ko7aeJJgEqhd3cWJlQFsC553P1aHi853mueLtbdqFj684KJcyewyko3YdYTGFFOVMn miarNZ85koefpzWl+qA2G2r4UXA+Jya9sdvCnraOspmJqBisJkKvdHtH1Af5NJkZLxLE IsSnQgQl8Yi7LO56Mf+Ral08tpLy/dBhu/kJc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <654689.49634.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <654689.49634.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:34:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boss DR880? From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdd7a29656604950a1898 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:34:55 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bdd7a29656604950a1898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It depends on how complex your drum parts are and if you need to send MIDI. Look at Jamstix, Groove Tracks, EZDrummer, DrumFlow, all send MIDI. For a very basic drummer look at Hammerhead. I think you can officially get Rebirth now for free. Lots of choices. On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 2:55 PM, E Gross wrote: > Hi Adam, > > You suggest using computer for your drum parts, can you give suggestions > for windows based software to do this? > > Thanks, > Eric > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0015174bdd7a29656604950a1898 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It depends on how complex your drum parts are and if you need to send MIDI.= =A0

Look at Jamstix, Groove Tracks, EZDrummer, DrumFlow, all send M= IDI.

For a very basic drummer look at Hammerhead.=A0

I think= you can officially get Rebirth now for free.

Lots of choices.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010= at 2:55 PM, E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Adam,

You suggest using computer for your drum part= s, can you give suggestions for windows based software to do this?

Thanks,
Eric





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Tony
--0015174bdd7a29656604950a1898-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 21:57:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38ED53BEA4; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SPTQIHbLoHdxxSc9GWhdbwoZxntr2kG7WQs35pLcCPg=; b=aJvtdsC50hhPjvQOvg0SQI54Mei6IFuyHb1Gs43cjm/yY6CFNPxVLKz3soURqIkPBs R5LYSn1/XHKCLQPPOMzIHRqhp/ZO2300R+pU/wMkKPpOZh84L0HSvmfsn460BhB4zYkC 5C2JUZ0JoqaZ9YH1+LlxA9SOhcddOrMZMWY/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aZj/9wlRV7rqbiW9VXHyH32hlII3YA8+hPlgNknucNvgPO/A9A5f47L5T+yg4VsZqK pjrXrYu4Mc3V7+u6VCIZ3IMrvoUq0prTTqUr5NovCAuq8F0Q++yl/quBk93TAUfP2STf 13jFOWv4UD8hEAOFXTtCjZUBjXPz9kdKQ4EGw= Message-ID: <4CE05B2B.6070902@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:56:59 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review References: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <4CE026B6.4000809@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:57:06 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe schrieb: > They were not the same Rainer, I definitely heard differences, but > whether they were correct or good, is very debatable, I certainly > preferred Andres mix. As I think I said, it sounded like a Radio Limit > to me... bit muffled... I wonder what happens if you give them a > really shitty sounding mix? Worth a try for a laugh? Merzbow anyone? Couldn't find any limiter use, or at least only to a miniscule amount. Differences were very local, and if so, in a .1dB range. Same goes (although in a rougher "first view") for the frequency curve. As all the discussion (both here and referenced by members here) shows: sometimes even a low price is way overpriced... -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 14 22:51:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F5153BE8D; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:51:18 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9127B19B-8E21-4DF8-832C-5A8BC766AE41@baymoon.com> <60431322-C201-463F-A484-8CE227CC4B5E@grubmah.com> <8CA503F1-5727-4609-84CA-5A4FF8E9A0BD@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:51:21 +0000 (UTC) On Nov 14, 2010, at 12:26 PM, mark francombe wrote: > JEEZE MARK... Now that is a fucking fantastic wah... what is it? how = much it cost? and where did you get it? do they have any more?, do they = ship? how fast???? > I need me one of them muthafuckers!!! >=20 > .. ah now I got to the replacing.. neato Ibanez Weeping Demon. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 15 01:27:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23FE93BE8D; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 01:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=d3M3hWvqD6mTWPS1ICesNqg7OolhkaKU8Hv2WUICKsI=; b=pL35kg/Sp750L1/IHyVkACjHryRf6FYZPTa408kYjNIz1ek5qt6pAT09dpuJf+SgGs WDRDM9+ENWT7OA3CB0KWUvWg+uT3WM7b6cQ/wzSpMtgHJpdtrxRMK/YSXXtuDEuEZ6R/ dVpdtL6bl9u8zKs+JmPIZSfmF1/znItXPBN7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XDMalPSshDe7/xQCcFXVdsZG47v2igFnuc2eXoVVBw5w5+N1IP5vG+WyuoJh9hEs8g K0FQpkbepau+YUBz7PTzZjcsme6/CC3iUYuxr0ilJ9HDecQVhc0ci47H0WuaKbEfC9h3 vtGWXwg5R3KnA4VK/KPGoYk8y2AuM25mN+TjI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:27:21 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Dual EDP+ Stereo rig up on ebay From: "Nobody's Pants" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b8fbc77067a04950d5741 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 01:27:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b8fbc77067a04950d5741 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120647683114&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123#ht_720wt_1139 Not a bad deal with all the bonuses. Thought if anyone would be interested, it'd be this list! --0016363b8fbc77067a04950d5741 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://cgi.ebay.co= m/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D120647683114&ssPageName=3DADME:L= :LCA:US:1123#ht_720wt_1139

Not a bad deal with all the bonuses.=A0 Thought if anyone would be inte= rested, it'd be this list!
--0016363b8fbc77067a04950d5741-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 15 02:34:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03D173BE8B; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 02:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3604 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 02:34:46 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:29:09 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Sunday 11.21 Doctor T, Kevin Frenette, Glynis Lomon, Eric Crawley, Setheyny Pen Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, "atari-midi@yahoogroups.com.Frameworks"@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <5JfwsD.A.Q_D.GxJ4MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 02:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Visual Music LIVE continues on Sunday November 21, with four of my favorite musicians playing duets in all combinations, followed by a quartet. Dr. T -- Video Projections Glynis Lomon -- cello and voice Kevin Frenette -- guitar Eric Crawley -- harpejji and electronics Setheyny Pen - drums I call this format Duets Plus, and it is always exciting, with sparks flying musically and visually My projections are produced by mixing multiple DVD sources with video mixers and effects processors. The sources consist of computer-manipulated original material derived from my still photography and videography. The original subject matter is usually recognizable, but sometimes processed to complete abstraction. Sometimes the projections and music respond directly to each other -- sometimes they simply co-exist. Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA Suggested donation, $10 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and live) can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. with a piece from the Spring Series at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxBtaJajCkU Those of you who attend or perform at events at Outpost 186 may find my photo essay "Improvisations from an Outpost" http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/ to be of interest, -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 15 03:04:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B41813BE8B; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 03:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <30dff7710d35d02e13224d29ca5ee743.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <567DE641-0B78-47B9-9C8C-7EB5484644F9@baymoon.com> References: <567DE641-0B78-47B9-9C8C-7EB5484644F9@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:04:41 -0400 Subject: Re: : Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 03:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi Bill, I'm doing fine, now that I've got electricity again. I was suffering withdrawal for what seemed like a really long week. You don't know what you've got until it's gone. I've been fortunate, they were others that had to go without electricity or water for a lot longer. My brother lost part of his roof. Luckily, there were no casualties. 10 miles away St. Lucia had a much harder time. www.flickr.com/photos/55373451@N06/show/ I spent most of my evenings with my acoustic, strumming away old school. It was really amazing playing and watching the sunset, in this really quite environment. No fridges or TV's chattering away in the background. So in a sense, I lost something to find something that I forgot I had lost from before. Andre On Sun, November 14, 2010 1:25 pm, William Walker wrote: > completely unrelated to this , how are you doing Andre? I saw in the > paper that a hurricane passed over your lovely Island, everything ok? > Bill > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 15 16:05:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F2923BE8D; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=f7feF/ZPFDW8jcJfqAPXKb/I7y1JZfimA+QINxu0uFeVkY30iRqQy2QBrPbngckp; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <4CE026B6.4000809@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:04:39 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7998f114acaf58a33d25c6784cfd8a3a61350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:05:16 +0000 (UTC) >They were not the same Rainer, I definitely heard differences, but >whether they were correct or good, is very debatable, I certainly >preferred Andres mix. As I think I said, it sounded like a Radio >Limit to me... bit muffled... I wonder what happens if you give them >a really shitty sounding mix? Worth a try for a laugh? Merzbow >anyone? > >M Mark, It is a scam: http://www.3daudioinc.com/3db/showthread.php?20941-Automatic-mastering-No-waiting.&p=226072#post226072 > -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 15 16:16:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 397433BE8C; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=/Qxg/i1DnKxcjC4SL2ymPgEyzVrJ42FDwocBtC5UQS0=; b=G1RPynRR9EIxkcyDnWKjKqybBEaoOcahbLuC7nlhzIedATbaUahk9M/+a9Px0+E+K6 2Qj1rd5raMoSqsXGMyRruoYLuhGt51lG1sclACwZqKlbHI7XD00erYLsmO5kQKU0M3Dj INtNOwNGdeG8Ma3cfgThYGwypTo3Jxyf4bjoQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=fpWziCMm8Xzg7FfSbZQ4tlC8g0cw2UfBjO6jn8hp+2e9ZMopFdGFKa/JChMUQ4F07s y3UwA1TtKeaU/U98nBeF7VlTz6hEeClqJt3MPRKbkfmasFTaQdeNu8NA9Y+StiwkZWAV Eq6FVqHbqxk6d6BkwT/1eYUQwUMEm7oLp3dME= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <5ea376263eba682cc25ab12bb068b5ab.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <4CE026B6.4000809@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:16:21 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SDiRob4E8EvYUfKsI7BY9-2ygis Message-ID: Subject: Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d3e72f5218b049519c390 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:16:44 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301d3e72f5218b049519c390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I DID read that Charles... I think its a scam too, as in it doesnt work, but im not sure quite why you believe one source over another .. I tell you I *heard* a difference with Andres track, and can see that this guy reports identical waveforms and levels... I cant explain that... but I do trust my ears. Didnt he say (not reading the forum now) that there was a difference in levels that he made up in order to compare the waveforms.. ok.. so THATS the scam.. its just normalisation.. ridiculous! should be stopped... maybe that all I heard, a level difference, where the louder version appeared a little less dynamic, Im sure I heard some lack of top though.. not lack, but less... I will admit that my hearing in these frequencies are less than reliable ha ha... but Ive been listening to recordings long enough to know i heard SOMETHING... mcf On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > They were not the same Rainer, I definitely heard differences, but whether >> they were correct or good, is very debatable, I certainly preferred Andres >> mix. As I think I said, it sounded like a Radio Limit to me... bit >> muffled... I wonder what happens if you give them a really shitty sounding >> mix? Worth a try for a laugh? Merzbow anyone? >> >> M >> > > > Mark, > > It is a scam: > > > > http://www.3daudioinc.com/3db/showthread.php?20941-Automatic-mastering-No-waiting.&p=226072#post226072 > > > >> > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf301d3e72f5218b049519c390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I DID read that Charles...
I think its a scam too, as in it doesnt work= , but im not sure quite why you believe one source over another ..

= I tell you I heard a difference with Andres track, and can see that = this guy reports identical waveforms and levels...

I cant explain that... but I do trust my ears. Didnt he say (not readin= g the forum now) that there was a difference in levels that he made up in o= rder to compare the waveforms.. ok.. so THATS the scam.. its just normalisa= tion.. ridiculous! should be stopped...=A0 maybe that all I heard, a level = difference, where the louder version appeared a little less dynamic, Im sur= e I heard some lack of top though.. not lack, but less... I will admit that= my hearing in these frequencies are less than reliable ha ha... but Ive be= en listening to recordings long enough to know i heard SOMETHING...

mcf


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:04 = PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
They were not the same Rainer, I definitely heard differences, but whether = they were correct or good, is very debatable, I certainly preferred Andres = mix. As I think I said, it sounded like a Radio Limit to me... bit muffled.= .. I wonder what happens if you give them a really shitty sounding mix? Wor= th a try for a laugh? Merzbow anyone?

M


Mark,

It is a scam:


http://www.= 3daudioinc.com/3db/showthread.php?20941-Automatic-mastering-No-waiting.&= ;p=3D226072#post226072








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mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf301d3e72f5218b049519c390-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 15 19:06:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B77BD3BE8A; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: Andres' photos of hurricane Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:06:18 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Holy Shit!!!!!, I'm glad to hear you are safe and the island was mostly spared. Its a shame about St Lucia, were these photos fro there or from Barbados? Did you take them? These photos look like things got really bad. Glad to hear you are ok and that there was no loss of life on barbados. Take care Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 15 22:40:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B5633BE8D; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IOB+TOWdGPoKfRILMxI3RGbpK7zw7RMd+NX57gUt3Ik=; b=hzjBYhZ8kTZVBZdlkuTGfzQajRNo0nvdlaqYBagYbhhOwmOiO253ExFFd5Ebi2tWPs S+iU21tNuP3CvthjcLk+r3BziTWU/Wt7/P6rTM4wl3RnDD8sHfsBzmpTs8GUETvhr4gI 8KHFrJwxsK9eFzf8yLlfejzp4X9EJJCnIpO1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xwig1JZ5krn5HiOQ2fxXNIzTiX5xhMX1L3H3HsO2eyTvKgF2pNFvTbqafkvf+hbk5U ZSo/mcYgcBNsaEgKTo0nhISJ16t2bxPGbXDXendUiMtozCD9AaNA2l9imARsaFBOKYMa sXA/QAWRUKFs2IjH/SZeQES5+h6cfw7n2Btv8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <30dff7710d35d02e13224d29ca5ee743.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <567DE641-0B78-47B9-9C8C-7EB5484644F9@baymoon.com> <30dff7710d35d02e13224d29ca5ee743.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:40:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: : Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:40:23 +0000 (UTC) He Andre, good to hear you survived that hurricane my friend! :) Sjaak On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:04 AM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" w= rote: > Hi Bill, > > I'm doing fine, now that I've got electricity again. > I was suffering withdrawal for what seemed like a really long week. > You don't know what you've got until it's gone. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 15 22:46:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77C183BE93; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7/CCCLOrb8MbCgYisjjfMofY1tmTGOd1COAaYhPB0aU=; b=HifETlRXkVOMcbCau8kdD/nu56hLP7iwdcHcOvP1mNovUXPOeknc9ofrJ8L4pU5o2n fQml7v6yXzfUMPWXADHqEV96q1lpDD72R9pN4j1Rur6L/gpFPrDuafs4FjmHf+qQw+LP hSN167D6VEUTHHHa2t9i+C4QDb0xB4S+1fcIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BXyHviHCUeTX1wjKs3Niy+U738VAtUoA5KAD5rIugI9VIedGJ/O+sLIuB26b1xJbyS IQjBcPx+CFO05oKItlqtYdw603ATqrBMA+aPyRHwA1r9iz/A2Y+7nZTZDlAhgnQhFGzs 5Q8OPFpm4e0Qc0KFOm5kAPQufGqySMhmmdsB8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <30dff7710d35d02e13224d29ca5ee743.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <567DE641-0B78-47B9-9C8C-7EB5484644F9@baymoon.com> <30dff7710d35d02e13224d29ca5ee743.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:46:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: : Re: Coma - My instantsongmastering.com review From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5c08878ffbe04951f36eb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:46:39 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5c08878ffbe04951f36eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh man best wishes brother! Luis On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:04 AM, "Andr=E9 Donawa" wr= ote: > Hi Bill, > > I'm doing fine, now that I've got electricity again. > I was suffering withdrawal for what seemed like a really long week. > You don't know what you've got until it's gone. > > I've been fortunate, they were others that had to go without electricity > or water for a lot longer. My brother lost part of his roof. > > Luckily, there were no casualties. > 10 miles away St. Lucia had a much harder time. > > www.flickr.com/photos/55373451@N06/show/ > > I spent most of my evenings with my acoustic, strumming away old school. > It was really amazing playing and watching the sunset, in this really > quite environment. No fridges or TV's chattering away in the background. > > So in a sense, I lost something to find something that I forgot I had los= t > from before. > > Andre > > > On Sun, November 14, 2010 1:25 pm, William Walker wrote: > > completely unrelated to this , how are you doing Andre? I saw in the > > paper that a hurricane passed over your lovely Island, everything ok? > > Bill > > > > > > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > --001636c5c08878ffbe04951f36eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
oh man best wishes brother!
Luis

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:04 AM, "Andr=E9 D= onawa" <= andre@andredonawa.com> wrote:
Hi Bill,

I'm doing fi= ne, now that I've got electricity again.
I was suffering withdrawal = for what seemed like a really long week.
You don't know what you've got until it's gone.

I've= been fortunate, they were others that had to go without electricity
or = water for a lot longer. My brother lost part of his roof.

Luckily, t= here were no casualties.
10 miles away St. Lucia had a much harder time.

www.flickr.com/ph= otos/55373451@N06/show/

I spent most of my evenings with my acou= stic, strumming away old school.
It was really amazing playing and watching the sunset, in this really
qu= ite environment. No fridges or TV's chattering away in the background.<= br>
So in a sense, I lost something to find something that I forgot I ha= d lost
from before.

Andre


On Sun, November 14, 2010 1:25 pm, William Walker= wrote:
> =A0 completely unrelated to this , how are you doing Andre?= I saw in the
> paper that a hurricane passed over your lovely Island= , everything ok?
> Bill
>
>


http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress=
http://ww= w.andredonawa.com
http://cdba= by.com/all/andredonawa
http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa


--001636c5c08878ffbe04951f36eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 00:38:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F3B83BE8E; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5528efb0c400e5bbce67df34484caa19.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:38:00 -0400 Subject: Re: OT: Andres' photos of hurricane From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Everyone, Yeah, those pics are from St. Lucia a friend of mine sent me the link. It's the worst we have had since the 50's. Andre On Mon, November 15, 2010 3:06 pm, William Walker wrote: > Holy Shit!!!!!, I'm glad to hear you are safe and the island was > mostly spared. Its a shame about St Lucia, were these photos fro there > or from Barbados? Did you take them? These photos look like things > got really bad. Glad to hear you are ok and that there was no loss of > life on barbados. > Take care > Bill > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 10:31:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 721793BE8A; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bCwrcvHv6eXG58Rhszov5ogNfU7w0H46kHx9kD33/uk=; b=gxKY2Tu1+5CocKCsGxIs9R0Ktsd6Cq93CETEqIBsQtRjFpcl7LV63tGbk72W0UgWRH 77cON21ql4CILL1/xXfSYx0dcNM/3SxaNJmP6ldwjfcVzo8cxwiUzgrqOmS3zMgWUDpZ X2w8jIZdbSNmBfi/2ZdeuU+/jp609nX+j3x1E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Mb0CbyCy7QDs2KGeRV0JfNFfwfobbHmJdxWK5fY4cYW5fehYLtBlruTfV5R9Je7Q1T CwbqAicIzWWWJtwr9CLZYPOrgMnjBfTpjS7c3vwHolqAYh/WOrixBAxVM8wJjuFB6O0T dQUM1ln4ayCGp0qNawbohLz0Oc1CBXCPYiGiY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 05:31:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Midi question for live setup From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8ac66a9e3b0495290fbc Resent-Message-ID: <-F1RYB.A.P5C.F2l4MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:31:33 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8ac66a9e3b0495290fbc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I want to be able to send the midi note on/off message for the note E1. This will allow me to mute and unmute my instrument mic on channel 1 of my mixer. Anybody know of a really efficient way to accomplish this in a live setup? A single programmable footswitch that can do midi notes with a midi out jack would have the smallest footprint. For my M9 - Rang 3 setup I don't need any other functions other than to send the note E1 to be able to mute/mute my mic that goes directly into the mixer. I'm using my rme fireface as the mixer but in standalone mode so its not hooked up to a computer. It can be controlled by midi in mackie emulation mode. --90e6ba6e8ac66a9e3b0495290fbc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to be able to send the midi note on/off message for the note E1. Thi= s will allow me to mute and unmute my instrument mic on channel 1 of my mix= er. Anybody know of a really efficient way to accomplish this in a live set= up? A single programmable footswitch that can do midi notes with a midi out= jack would have the smallest footprint. For my M9 - Rang 3 setup I don'= ;t need any other functions other than to send the note E1 to be able to mu= te/mute my mic that goes directly into the mixer. I'm using my rme fire= face as the mixer but in standalone mode so its not hooked up to a computer= . It can be controlled by midi in mackie emulation mode.





--90e6ba6e8ac66a9e3b0495290fbc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 13:07:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AD873BE8B; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Xv22+Lf+fiRA+ecboIeITawGu2JliysWZTlCjUHGpcY=; b=uSOx+/twPfI3soWUfE4EcFq5x4kZhFc9ao90S+rUR6Ne3RM4nRIJj0/lTDBmpcWrQl AGfTdPjPFTecszUhzb+0xBTcUY8bHumruhdKgefLAmFfEkPghyhMVjmwFTPKRnoUEbdf R1/kmx2HhdO4MTzci0GEyuv3LUOs+wkMVpYa0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=X5w8JqFJzKHie0ctWUkgpaNZK0mb8Mk4GlCV91KOM978ESGwqRmddlynZzWVv1kUX5 Bj0R4bA13wotPLiPh6UiYFNPqzMfMPVc1da1Fy6Fce3nGyoNDEQ2TXL3K0G4ahLocQyG HGWcsj8V3anZ6UbWAST3cq/9mX7rmHztnf08A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:07:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Rang III loop copy (multiply)question From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d58d9fde9e2204952b3eab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:07:59 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d58d9fde9e2204952b3eab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi rangers: the rang 3 is really catching my eye now,is it possible to do a sort of multiply? that is copy the contents of loop 1 as you are recording and adding content by overdubbing and make loop 2 longer than the initial one? can you define the length of loop 2 (for example loop 1 is in 4/4 and loop 2 is in 3/4 or is it quantized and dependent on the master loop? this si soemthing essential in songwritting and something most compact loopers lack! --0016e6d58d9fde9e2204952b3eab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi rangers:
the rang 3 is really catching my eye now,is it possible to d= o a sort of multiply? that is copy the contents of loop 1 as you are record= ing and adding content by overdubbing and make loop 2 longer than the initi= al one? can you define the length of loop 2 (for example loop 1 is in 4/4 a= nd loop 2 is in 3/4 or is it quantized and dependent on the master loop? th= is si soemthing essential in songwritting and something most compact looper= s lack!
--0016e6d58d9fde9e2204952b3eab-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 13:35:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3C503BE8A; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 525212304/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.183.228/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.183.228 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtEBAI8X4kxV0rfk/2dsb2JhbAAHlFjNR4VLBI1Z X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,206,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="525212304" Message-ID: <4CE28890.6060604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:35:12 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rang III loop copy (multiply)question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:35:00 +0000 (UTC) No idea, but Matthias told me the other day that the "Thru" socket on the EDP doesn't have a midi delay. That probably means that daisy chaining a pair of EDPs in stereo is a lot less likely to lose sync if the chaining is done via the Thru socket on the first EDP rather than the Midi Output. If you still have the pair of EDPs that might answer your problems better than hoping for EDP like functions on a stereo looper. Could at least be worth sticking with the edp pair until Matt's Evoloop becomes available. Otherwise the Looperlative LP1 will copy stereo loops as you describe. (can be quantised to loop being copied) andy Louie Angulo wrote: > hi rangers: > the rang 3 is really catching my eye now,is it possible to do a sort of > multiply? that is copy the contents of loop 1 as you are recording and > adding content by overdubbing and make loop 2 longer than the initial > one? can you define the length of loop 2 (for example loop 1 is in 4/4 > and loop 2 is in 3/4 or is it quantized and dependent on the master > loop? this si soemthing essential in songwritting and something most > compact loopers lack! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 13:41:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EAF13BE8A; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FM2oNJTsXDXBs/HkCPpq+QFvZdg3OaRTG0LLfTv2dmk=; b=vhXOV0j20RYIklqUZpHev+bdxCUJnnJv55eZ0r43eaLaOMMZNfmcK3FAsxGo51JG7s r6sj8cCMJ8iBxjRSlfp+pUcHPCxYSIa3LG6c0Sz51iEYJuK79HtykWamhNuO+f4yRdcN L/BrDFKnGNoU4mpHoDBLW9/rNnb9mGucuYTlg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YYJdSg0UG668MCMSWnKR0gpK1KRVx0+IamJDg02IPtxYvA1o+23nX9ZXu20JetnMDE vD3x4BUcp5BAEeWfWB5DKhMtyFOfLpcDaTtM7Dm4Gu3iR7MLPsuHDcCnN99pbAOxaank EWG2nso3B7awfHQwYi3vaqzQZmH7D832UuDiI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CE28890.6060604@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4CE28890.6060604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:41:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rang III loop copy (multiply)question From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d58d9f3301a304952bb696 Resent-Message-ID: <7CtmzB.A.XEG.Aoo4MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:41:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d58d9f3301a304952bb696 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 is the evoloop going to be a pedal or rack? when do you estimate it will be available? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:35 PM, andy butler wrote: > No idea, > but Matthias told me the other day that the "Thru" socket on the EDP > doesn't have a midi delay. > > That probably means that daisy chaining a pair of EDPs in stereo > is a lot less likely to lose sync if the chaining is done via > the Thru socket on the first EDP rather than the Midi Output. > > If you still have the pair of EDPs that might answer your problems > better than hoping for EDP like functions on a stereo looper. > > Could at least be worth sticking with the edp pair until > Matt's Evoloop becomes available. > Otherwise the Looperlative LP1 will copy stereo loops as you describe. > (can be quantised to loop being copied) > > andy > > > Louie Angulo wrote: > >> hi rangers: >> the rang 3 is really catching my eye now,is it possible to do a sort of >> multiply? that is copy the contents of loop 1 as you are recording and >> adding content by overdubbing and make loop 2 longer than the initial one? >> can you define the length of loop 2 (for example loop 1 is in 4/4 and loop 2 >> is in 3/4 or is it quantized and dependent on the master loop? this si >> soemthing essential in songwritting and something most compact loopers lack! >> > > --0016e6d58d9f3301a304952bb696 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is the evoloop going to be a pedal or rack? when do you estimate it will be= available?

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:35= PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
No idea,
but Matthias told me the other day that the "Thru" socket on the = EDP
doesn't have a midi delay.

That probably means that daisy chaining a pair of EDPs in stereo
is a lot less likely to lose sync if the chaining is done via
the Thru socket on the first EDP rather than the Midi Output.

If you still have the pair of EDPs that might answer your problems
better than hoping for EDP like functions on a stereo looper.

Could at least be worth sticking with the edp pair until
Matt's Evoloop becomes available.
Otherwise the Looperlative LP1 will copy stereo loops as you describe.
(can be quantised to loop being copied)

andy


Louie Angulo wrote:
hi rangers:
the rang 3 is really catching my eye now,is it possible to do a sort of mul= tiply? that is copy the contents of loop 1 as you are recording and adding = content by overdubbing and make loop 2 longer than the initial one? can you= define the length of loop 2 (for example loop 1 is in 4/4 and loop 2 is in= 3/4 or is it quantized and dependent on the master loop? this si soemthing= essential in songwritting and something most compact loopers lack!


--0016e6d58d9f3301a304952bb696-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 13:47:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7983F3BE8D; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=obSqLntq4YL2ptw8frfRHj28cCitpDJgTvaZkuq2+CE=; b=jzPkK4TifrU1/Kllcsr6IcPSx5N1uEqF+ZlNyIXCqGJar6p2C3wXfPH267TiHBgisx NEY6lM80tIbuTIqsIDuJiCK0YWKl1BOXIfSjW1m6tZrC96it/E11i4RJbVXr3UuuTiz7 OXPv5Cl6ghbDdpIh5FM66EEipBcpBdKk7Ki+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=abYDv5z47kgTwE8saX89WY05yW8THefMtaBgqUdZZ+kEiDQEXdyVPR2/2fFu1b7NaJ Vdd/VJavTSmlOOq+pCyndU+GyadHHlZRnDyq393Z0+lF3Ec+Qo2vfARgx0rtGkP/AnEh EjWkTBYuZ38U1EMwsqPQF+Iv7cliLCxHJUzSc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CE28890.6060604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:47:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rang III loop copy (multiply)question From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d58d9fbb728604952bcb4a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:47:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d58d9fbb728604952bcb4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 say Andy,ive never used the FCB1010 to control 2 EDPs independently but if i chose to go this route,what would be an ideal source number for the second EDP so midi notes dont conflict? do you ever used them like that or just stick to the stereo config? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > is the evoloop going to be a pedal or rack? when do you estimate it will be > available? > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:35 PM, andy butler wrote: > >> No idea, >> but Matthias told me the other day that the "Thru" socket on the EDP >> doesn't have a midi delay. >> >> That probably means that daisy chaining a pair of EDPs in stereo >> is a lot less likely to lose sync if the chaining is done via >> the Thru socket on the first EDP rather than the Midi Output. >> >> If you still have the pair of EDPs that might answer your problems >> better than hoping for EDP like functions on a stereo looper. >> >> Could at least be worth sticking with the edp pair until >> Matt's Evoloop becomes available. >> Otherwise the Looperlative LP1 will copy stereo loops as you describe. >> (can be quantised to loop being copied) >> >> andy >> >> >> Louie Angulo wrote: >> >>> hi rangers: >>> the rang 3 is really catching my eye now,is it possible to do a sort of >>> multiply? that is copy the contents of loop 1 as you are recording and >>> adding content by overdubbing and make loop 2 longer than the initial one? >>> can you define the length of loop 2 (for example loop 1 is in 4/4 and loop 2 >>> is in 3/4 or is it quantized and dependent on the master loop? this si >>> soemthing essential in songwritting and something most compact loopers lack! >>> >> >> > --0016e6d58d9fbb728604952bcb4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable say Andy,ive never used the FCB1010 to control 2 EDPs independently but if = i chose to go this route,what would be an ideal source number for the secon= d EDP so midi notes dont conflict? do you ever used them like that or just = stick to the stereo config?

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Louie Angul= o <loui= e.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
is the evoloop going to be a pedal or rack? when do you estimate it will be= available?

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:35 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.= co.uk> wrote:
No idea,
but Matthias told me the other day that the "Thru" socket on the = EDP
doesn't have a midi delay.

That probably means that daisy chaining a pair of EDPs in stereo
is a lot less likely to lose sync if the chaining is done via
the Thru socket on the first EDP rather than the Midi Output.

If you still have the pair of EDPs that might answer your problems
better than hoping for EDP like functions on a stereo looper.

Could at least be worth sticking with the edp pair until
Matt's Evoloop becomes available.
Otherwise the Looperlative LP1 will copy stereo loops as you describe.
(can be quantised to loop being copied)

andy


Louie Angulo wrote:
hi rangers:
the rang 3 is really catching my eye now,is it possible to do a sort of mul= tiply? that is copy the contents of loop 1 as you are recording and adding = content by overdubbing and make loop 2 longer than the initial one? can you= define the length of loop 2 (for example loop 1 is in 4/4 and loop 2 is in= 3/4 or is it quantized and dependent on the master loop? this si soemthing= essential in songwritting and something most compact loopers lack!



--0016e6d58d9fbb728604952bcb4a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 14:39:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBC823BE89; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 533927876/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.183.228/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.183.228 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtEBANUm4kxV0rfk/2dsb2JhbAAHlFjNe4VLBI1Zgnc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,206,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="533927876" Message-ID: <4CE2979A.7090906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:39:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rang III loop copy (multiply)question References: <4CE28890.6060604@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo wrote: > is the evoloop going to be a pedal or rack? More a desktop unit. It won't be directly foot operable, for that a midi controller will be necessary. Matt hopes to provide a readymade template for the Softstep. I hope it has optional rackmount. > when do you estimate it will > be available? If you start salivating now...... ;-) such questions are not so easy to answer, Matthias had hoped to have something to show at this years NAMM. > say Andy,ive never used the FCB1010 to control 2 EDPs independently but > if i chose to go this route,what would be an ideal source number for the > second EDP so midi notes dont conflict? here's a spreadsheet http://www.loopersdelight.com/tools/echoplex/PLEX_MIDI_COMMANDS.zip something like EDP1 Source# 1 Looptrig# 127 EDP2 Source# 55 Looptrig#127 ...where the looptrig values won't work, but won't interfere Maybe someone else currently on list has actually done this. Better to use Softstep and put them on different channels. (then you can program to run in stereo too) >do you ever used them like that > or just stick to the stereo config? They're always set up in stereo config, but I often use the front panel buttons on the slave to make them split. e.g. Param>> Next sends the right channel edp into reverse. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 14:51:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E67C3BE87; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=/43W6B6+vJwLqjTY65L2EgjVQMAZpO/TDrSs2pWROJI=; b=E5soFX2yOi5m7chldJRuVO1GtZg0ZrEn4UjcKk+eCEpwmbRCxHKIOlI2AFEx4Axckm VGpkTswIucKwXrW30BOeD7XgqpIZfZmbWNSoIFCXoHCRW2Aq4E19owLoKd90gM+iUKUk WsV/HFumpflKa1Lm02DARD5TOba8kf2GrfTJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ZOH9XjU4UjnjjjPvzTeAMDf1PGIKeT4QZaPj0f4MhikaY5jkBtfW2Ewhnyl/Hk8HAC YE4Br/sgrXHIk/c2I78c2uK21Tc6920UB+mnkAkHn0jS/XNsgy756wqMF83IBy3Tt0jj J/1yaK7CHQ3lgWEXTbjd4Sn7JhPp3T+3wmYj0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4CE2979A.7090906@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4CE28890.6060604@tiscali.co.uk> <4CE2979A.7090906@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:50:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4oeApo9TWPcRnQIzC209pESL85I Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rang III loop copy (multiply)question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636aa2bfc8a158504952caf80 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:51:04 +0000 (UTC) --001636aa2bfc8a158504952caf80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:39 PM, andy butler wrote: > Better to use Softstep and put them on different channels. > (then you can program to run in stereo too) > Thats what Im doing Luis-- I have one EDP1 scene one EDP2 scene and a few MIX scenes, where I have BOTH inserts (EDP1 and EDP2) next to each other on the pedal. I also have one scene where I have 2 commands per pedal, and this will send something to BOTH. The EDPs are set up the same, same Source #, but I have EDP1 on channel 15 and EDP 2 on channel 16. -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --001636aa2bfc8a158504952caf80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:39 PM, andy bu= tler <akbutl= er@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Better to use Softstep and put them on different channels.=
(then you can program to run in stereo too)

Tha= ts what Im doing Luis--

I have one EDP1 scene one EDP2 scene and a = few MIX scenes, where I have BOTH inserts (EDP1 and EDP2) next to each othe= r on the pedal. I also have one scene where I have 2 commands per pedal, an= d this will send something to BOTH.

The EDPs are set up the same, same Source #, but I have EDP1 on channel= 15 and EDP 2 on channel 16.




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www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @ma= rkfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/use= r825094
http://www.looop.no
--001636aa2bfc8a158504952caf80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 15:32:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93F1A3BE8C; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 304 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:32:34 UTC Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Auto-Submitted: auto-generated From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:27:10 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on hons_100/Servers/FarmersInsurance(Release 8.5.1|September 28, 2009) at 11/16/2010 09:27:27 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:32:34 +0000 (UTC) I will be out of the office starting 11/15/2010 and will not return until 11/22/2010. For telecom, Audio or Video issues, contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 3793 ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission and immediately delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. 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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:38:57 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 173.101.163.56 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Harry Weinberg X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CD53BB84873F60_1BC_21499_webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32843-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: HarryEsq@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:39:12 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CD53BB84873F60_1BC_21499_webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In case anyone is looking for me, I will be in my office from now until a= time I cannot as yet determine, Harry Weinberg, Esq. Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc. 292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor New York, N.Y. 10017 (212) 889-4100 (212) 889-4105 (F) (917) 687-6019 (C) (212) 989-2908 (OCA) -----Original Message----- From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 10:27 am Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. I will be out of the office starting 11/15/2010 and will not return until 11/22/2010. For telecom, Audio or Video issues, contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 3793 ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may result in legal action against you. 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Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc.
292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10017
(212) 889-4100
(212) 889-4105 (F)
(917) 687-6019 (C)
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----= -Original Message-----
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Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 10:27 am
Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office.


I will be out of the office starting  11/15/2010 and will not return until
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----------MB_8CD53BB84873F60_1BC_21499_webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 15:46:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4EB83BE8B; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-AuditID: a22c23ca-b7bd7ae000007c92-fd-4ce2b53ea6fb Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB85A5.7FE799F4" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:46:56 -0000 Message-ID: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> In-Reply-To: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Thread-Index: AcuFpGvnLQdC/to2RNq1QkaScFHotAAAN3BQ References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2010 15:46:57.0584 (UTC) FILETIME=[801F8B00:01CB85A5] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:46:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85A5.7FE799F4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My body might be in the building, but my mind is definitely "out of office". Is it only Tuesday?!?!?!?! =20 Rob ________________________________ From: Harry Weinberg [mailto:harryesq@aol.com]=20 Sent: 16 November 2010 15:39 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. =20 In case anyone is looking for me, I will be in my office from now until a time I cannot as yet determine, Harry Weinberg, Esq. Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc. 292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor New York, N.Y. 10017 (212) 889-4100 (212) 889-4105 (F) (917) 687-6019 (C) (212) 989-2908 (OCA) =20 -----Original Message----- From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 10:27 am Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. =20 I will be out of the office starting 11/15/2010 and will not return until 11/22/2010. =20 For telecom, Audio or Video issues, contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 3793 =20 ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission and immediately delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank you.***** =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85A5.7FE799F4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My body might be in the building, = but my mind is definitely “out of office”. Is it only = Tuesday?!?!?!?!

 

Rob

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In case anyone is looking for me, I will be in my office from now until a time I = cannot as yet determine,

Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, = Inc.

292 Madison = Avenue - 16th Floor
New York, = N.Y. 10017

(212) = 889-4100

(212) 889-4105 = (F)

(917) 687-6019 (C)
(212) 989-2908 (OCA)

 

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Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the = office.

 
I will be out of the office =
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------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85A5.7FE799F4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 15:52:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 829EA3BE84; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAFALo24kxg+I5h/2dsb2JhbACUX44AwFKFSwSEWokKGg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,206,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="74820181" X-Previous-IP: 96.248.142.97 Message-Id: <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:54:27 -0600 References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Still waiting for the t-shirts... Put me down for an XL. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 16:29:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38EB13BE8B; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mktdcUykkVaMskyfSawU4HdweAzzH8EWLTtxtOjhQXk=; b=nR98QY8Dy4s7+6UJhYjo+1fV/WbqjiyNlTzjSNHNn3zdDouyn67R1KFk7ElaC2B2YS 1X/mvbDLY4hqTpuZhamUv4db+lc+IdQNKJBU2TJ/7vB0V31/TUdbs914JFgi/t48W7UO jBuoi+VpEEqt4xJ9Avoh7QJ15xPp+sLkhYbz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eb21BK4B4+CgXRuZZ1wp+x22XzrR4M5GHPeDkxZrDIU9gYzUHz1w1FVsySdk+cmMO5 q1l9LNJp6TbkHrICpMY9hD7+jncRgZKPzfY0uRTvpOWPwcCGYNOzZWaD/XMWCNpQ5QJS +rNUkohvQ6UjoA8MH0HaWtF42h2tpghXq00TE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:29:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2039c776f04952e10b8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:29:57 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2039c776f04952e10b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Peter has really defined the essence of looping with this in the office-out of the office-in the office-out of the office... etc etc -routine! -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a2039c776f04952e10b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter has really defined the essence of looping with this

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--20cf3054a2039c776f04952e10b8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 16:36:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 674383BE94; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-AuditID: a22c23ca-b7bd7ae000007c92-2d-4ce2c0eb5ff0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB85AC.75716B92" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:36:45 -0000 Message-ID: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E2A@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Thread-Index: AcuFq4KlLTKn0J+VSrGDNk3vDtfvuAAAC4Eg References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com><60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com><083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> From: To: Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2010 16:36:47.0066 (UTC) FILETIME=[75FE4BA0:01CB85AC] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:36:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85AC.75716B92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Petri, =20 I have a question to ask. You have the statement below in your email sig: =20 "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- =20 I for one would LOVE to be a pro musician, to make a living out of something I love would be a dream come true........ why would you not want that if you love playing/writing/performing music?!?!?! Just curious and maybe starting a debate, no bad feeling intended.=20 Rob ________________________________ From: Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com]=20 Sent: 16 November 2010 16:30 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. =20 Peter has really defined the essence of looping with this in the office-out of the office-in the office-out of the office... etc etc -routine! --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85AC.75716B92 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Petri,

 

I have a question to ask. You = have the statement below in your email sig:

 

"Only become professional musician if there is no = choice." -Robert Fripp-

 

I for one would LOVE to be a pro musician, to make a living out of something I love would be a dream come = true…….. why would you not want that if you love playing/writing/performing = music?!?!?!

Just curious and maybe starting a = debate, no bad feeling intended. 

Rob

From: Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com]
Sent: 16 November 2010 = 16:30
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Leinhos, = Peter is out of the office.

 

Peter has = really defined the essence of looping with this

in the office-out of the office-in the office-out of the office... etc etc  -routine!



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot= .com/
http://www.myspace.com/petr= ilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtine= n
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp= .com/
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"Only become professional musician if there is no choice." = -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-

------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85AC.75716B92-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 16:40:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F28983BE8C; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=10H6iSw+ppmQvN03bqye6QmbEb7UEUuAcGvhwQs6emM=; b=YIHVfXzQK+Kkuu/n6OtW/EjlmcWyFbg71PmIw4tcro4HsldlcMxr0sivcAwLSfPBMw 770ME/i8nmJOSCuUigtCfVrbbB2bM/DbhG2oxv6wQxhLMH6EEs2eoCAuocoIsj35/Cdy wpnM8mOqAJArpc+sP2DXj3nLwMMvwok69bizs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lLhvZSyi6TIbriIBQg14f0n5yhfFOM+7IbDdeQr1lz9dh5eJfRpiyhs8chwPLSEjfW MC1kHlFi8a/YGSK2IAElCC8R3LxAuiPR1I4Y+zxZPLMS/Ihol486O3IVv5BnHwB8ow/e zzGo9rnuHfa13P9JlWvPMnmCYtbu/y1lNr5As= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E2A@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E2A@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:40:23 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Start reading his (Fripp) diary then if you want an answer http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm Kevin On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:36 AM, wrote: > Hi Petri, > > > > I have a question to ask. You have the statement below in your email sig: > > > > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > > > > I for one would LOVE to be a pro musician, to make a living out of someth= ing > I love would be a dream come true=85=85.. why would you not want that if = you > love playing/writing/performing music?!?!?! > > Just curious and maybe starting a debate, no bad feeling intended. > > Rob > > ___________________ --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 16:41:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B30833BE8F; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=J8bhV/v6tG0vhdLshHgMqQoNXL5qgL00YzqF+dP3Of8=; b=Yq+36VzuOAOTU/4SfYSeazB7MfLx2+BlWeiThE1ximImsJmdYFHhej+x/Im2iRy99a YW/c31xMJNj8TaeRamlb5HDxq5Pa1TPjaisSE/0rF0i/+3qPbmZX7gyq/S32byIHJj6+ RyQQsqvBsMly1LsV0iKgn1wLdMoghP7BSUmDE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=IGrrztnPYJPzSAYYztxI5BYg7TObIbwI2HhLnfYmKb9d7BBAolbreYvZi2X09f+cj/ b8JV5I5NYwP7zXxPysIfm8Qrz0TW4LekbPhUmPdF7OOPKE6cRXdz5f3CM8AtkeObVohQ F96C43bh/bSZa17bRXLY/SQKZl613OXgyXpq4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E2A@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E2A@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:41:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Petri Lahtinen To: RKoster@uk.imshealth.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a6b984d73604952e3939 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:41:15 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a6b984d73604952e3939 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mr. Fripp's quotes should not be taken literally :-) 2010/11/16 > Hi Petri, > > > > I have a question to ask. You have the statement below in your email sig: > > > > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > > > > I for one would LOVE to be a pro musician, to make a living out of > something I love would be a dream come true=85=85.. why would you not wan= t that > if you love playing/writing/performing music?!?!?! > > Just curious and maybe starting a debate, no bad feeling intended. > > Rob > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 16 November 2010 16:30 > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. > > > > Peter has really defined the essence of looping with this > > in the office-out of the office-in the office-out of the office... etc et= c > -routine! > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a6b984d73604952e3939 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mr. Fripp's quotes should not be taken literally

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http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.c= om/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a6b984d73604952e3939-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 16:45:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 262CB3BE8F; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=fvMPaC6YVoGMItNIUOHqYoIRKwaioerz+bVUYrtcVeJzNlXz6WDT4FyQhkp0GyATuBisfrqJylnr1e2BaLG/RXIcwDhNdd9h2rUaTX9IqSL0dMDjpuDWVpRZrxyTfoZw7XhUDvSJNohtKqdhzUqefFduw6Wth30k80+rKyAKR5E= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1289925929; bh=EYJDGd6Xi3aQQWyFbZWXw3fh2SnTswMEHqKxBi1om38=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=Nvn8HIOaW6nfF8lARiO+rHoRQSAs4Dwz82So/nl9CArdz5tCSwObQ4h16XrUSgsUMag1lmPbkjgCIIO8NLCl9HfncYKqEflrRZC6cSlxgeHfbDurR4/aPZwUF7QbI50/h4jAYJy7hr055amn/2UPzqS+0tw2gTifqFhgup5cifM= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: xP88iVMVM1mvq.vFyBuhG.Gjovcw8kN3HxdjgSiuE98vHT_ 9ffg4ASd5FPtsQrt2FoUukjf8qtOMY1BlXi6RkpGWeSTzhtcXowVeP7G53Nh BPu5.c46XurWxYNWE7hY49KZVdWf7NTqCXZ3kWiKj0CgVr7TZp0HmRWDV6w7 wwWxtZ8NyldqHH_dpxlWoCOlQA3px4Tg.9q3pK17hlsPOXAuqlcrHajfq..n 2djqKC3t6ptyjorCPwjUmIs09l9dUcb53KSBcDG4Lg4uyv_imYnuC2Ux0awH LM2GRBc9UDoOngv73TtjSd_awh_yT2JE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-233596303 Message-Id: <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:45:25 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:45:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-233596303 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Professional musicians often have less time to be truly creative - if you fund your life other ways you are free to express yourself musically any way you like. Matt Stevens (accidental professional musician) www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 16 Nov 2010, at 16:29, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Peter has really defined the essence of looping with this > > in the office-out of the office-in the office-out of the office... > etc etc -routine! > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert > Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must > lead." -Charles Bukowski- > --Apple-Mail-3-233596303 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Professional musicians often = have less time to be truly creative - if you fund your life other ways = you are free to express yourself musically any way you = like.

Matt Stevens (accidental = professional musician)
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 16 Nov 2010, = at 16:29, Petri Lahtinen wrote:

Peter has = really defined the essence of looping with this

in the office-out = of the office-in the office-out of the office... etc etc  = -routine!



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
= http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.= com/
http://www.myspace.com/petri= lahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen=
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.= com/
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"Only = become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
= ---------------------------------------------------
"Some people = never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles = Bukowski-


= --Apple-Mail-3-233596303-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 16:47:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B15843BE97; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=//OOW0LWTwxZeiEKn/ghqg1hZQ4pgXFiboG58iumsig=; b=GyZpwIFHmcpV76Z6Tgox/LCVSvkwqEfo7WCNX8JQ6X3DCCHex77OY101JQNCX5s8+R Bg6MdVrDYdzXdBbOIhr0/1mMEoRZCVpUT4uRDl7+OqlVzOxFa3n9fAU4kPcMk3QBhk0O 6nt8hHuy2IxXQjzBmxHJNuG4EsumnLTmGKpbg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vrpQ12dNOkly6UnonDUsiDKs8HuFqomDe81qlfNRM+GGe3pDQPMxE+7V6fMpAhy5ma I8qAWiaYndhH6b8DjSb2zhBZ8mXk+SMxwDm6UQjt5DVFaao9JAcJpp1TmXYXEiZq69/7 Qo+HK6Z2HNk7OBTsHF2aFdHVYxzhjCgn3jGBU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:47:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2039669b404952e4edb Resent-Message-ID: <59Ye_B.A.bJC.LWr4MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:47:07 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2039669b404952e4edb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Matt, that is my way of thinking, exactly! 2010/11/16 Matt Stevens > Professional musicians often have less time to be truly creative - if you > fund your life other ways you are free to express yourself musically any way > you like. > > Matt Stevens (accidental professional musician) > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 16 Nov 2010, at 16:29, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > > Peter has really defined the essence of looping with this > > in the office-out of the office-in the office-out of the office... etc etc > -routine! > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a2039669b404952e4edb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt, that is my way of thinking, exactly!

2010/11/16 Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
Professional musicians often have les= s time to be truly creative - if you fund your life other ways you are free= to express yourself musically any way you like.

Matt Stevens (accidental professional musician)




On 16 Nov 2010, a= t 16:29, Petri Lahtinen wrote:

Peter has= really defined the essence of looping with this

in the office-out o= f the office-in the office-out of the office... etc etc=A0 -routine!



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petril= ahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://w= ww.myspace.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen= .bandcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go = crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-




--
Petri Lahtinen
= http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
= http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a2039669b404952e4edb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 16:50:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36C2E3BE8E; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=RoXFaAo+mSxwkPDXjR/SBWfdvv5a2QG80SjzE0PqQl9qk1sjf4mlx4XpHoLLV1aycp+rEwYDX1T5Eblzpva6/WgTmvAwj6K3xAX1boi1YLRpVfGBuOZzHflkDdJg+qh8; Message-ID: <20101116105056.lixvt47bk8wggkk0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:50:56 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Matt Stevens : > Professional musicians often have less time to be truly creative - if > you fund your life other ways you are free to express yourself > musically any way you like. > Well put, Matt. I started to create a reply, but its tone was so cynical that I just hit . "He that pays the piper calls the tune." -- Kevin p.s. -- just a heads up everyone -- Peter Leinhos is out of the office -- just in case you need to know. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 16:52:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 092A03BEC2; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-AuditID: a22c23ca-b7bd7ae000007c92-c9-4ce2c497c559 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB85AE.A6669E2A" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:52:26 -0000 Message-ID: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E5D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Thread-Index: AcuFrejK/w7T0D8/RhKP7eDJPkdvJgAAAuwA References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com><60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com><083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com><214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2010 16:52:27.0431 (UTC) FILETIME=[A67E9B70:01CB85AE] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:52:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85AE.A6669E2A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fair enough, but surely being a professional musician would mean you are in a creative environment consistently rather than sporadically like us hobbiests, which would suggest that the creativity is flowing constantly rather than sporadically? Also you would possibly be able to grow as a musician to be able to push the boundaries further than if you were doing the music thing in your spare time. =20 Interesting take on things though.=20 ________________________________ From: Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com]=20 Sent: 16 November 2010 16:47 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. =20 Matt, that is my way of thinking, exactly! 2010/11/16 Matt Stevens Professional musicians often have less time to be truly creative - if you fund your life other ways you are free to express yourself musically any way you like. =20 Matt Stevens (accidental professional musician) www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com =20 =20 On 16 Nov 2010, at 16:29, Petri Lahtinen wrote: Peter has really defined the essence of looping with this in the office-out of the office-in the office-out of the office... etc etc -routine! --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- =20 --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85AE.A6669E2A Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Fair enough, but surely being a professional musician would mean you are in a creative environment = consistently rather than sporadically like us hobbiests, which would suggest that the creativity is flowing constantly rather than sporadically? Also you = would possibly be able to grow as a musician to be able to push the boundaries further than if you were doing the music thing in your spare = time.

 

Interesting take on things = though. 

From: Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com]
Sent: 16 November 2010 = 16:47
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Leinhos, = Peter is out of the office.

 

Matt, that is = my way of thinking, exactly!

2010/11/16 Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinte= rnet.com>

Professional musicians often have less time to be truly creative = - if you fund your life other ways you are free to express yourself musically = any way you like.

 

Matt Stevens (accidental professional musician)

 



 

On 16 Nov 2010, at 16:29, Petri Lahtinen = wrote:



Peter has = really defined the essence of looping with this

in the office-out of the office-in the office-out of the office... etc etc  -routine!



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become professional musician if there is no choice." = -Robert Fripp-
---------------------------------------------------
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-

 




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot= .com/
http://www.myspace.com/petr= ilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtine= n
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp= .com/
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"Only become professional musician if there is no choice." = -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-

------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85AE.A6669E2A-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 16:53:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDD683BED9; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=DksM+yEUO4ply0alp9SZHk6m1obhACnTTrnzRdf4ghlQw6dZa99/pnAyD7qz5lRfpnF5mO9KHnGhVQPsiilTNkn/9b6RAJ363Uon7u22O1lSVPWEaFXrG3DwI1BzWgp+; Message-ID: <20101116105314.slfxlaras8gos048@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:53:14 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> <20101116105056.lixvt47bk8wggkk0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: <20101116105056.lixvt47bk8wggkk0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Quoting kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com: > > p.s. -- just a heads up everyone -- Peter Leinhos is out of the office > -- just in case you need to know. > Yaknow -- sometime I'd really like to meet Peter in person at a music festival or something like that -- just so I could say "Hey Peter, I see you are out of the office!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:07:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54FC03BED6; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:07:23 -0600 Subject: RE: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Thread-Topic: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Thread-Index: AcuFpkj7yDUenEiuTtG8kvSAStLNrgACjzLA Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91CC@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> In-Reply-To: <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: ABcY ALhR A4/o CZWY Db5C DkMM D67y Ed/h FbHA G/Gc Hnx5 JSu7 JiqP Jmv/ KtJo K/76;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{9C90469D-47A3-4155-B05B-A4280DDA05D9};agBlAGYAZgAuAGwAYQByAHMAbwBuAEAAcwBhAGkAbABwAG8AaQBuAHQALgBjAG8AbQA=;Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:07:23 GMT;UgBFADoAIABMAGUAaQBuAGgAbwBzACwAIABQAGUAdABlAHIAIABpAHMAIABvAHUAdAAgAG8AZgAgAHQAaABlACAAbwBmAGYAaQBjAGUALgA= x-cr-puzzleid: {9C90469D-47A3-4155-B05B-A4280DDA05D9} x-vipre-scanned: 93D2C97E001C9B93D2CACB acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Apologies to those that don't use HTML email clients for my last message. Here's a link instead. http://www.zonemobius.com/leinhos.gif From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:10:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 999E13BEDD; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BgDSZyhpomSV2zvFSkUBXHCX6ez5KJq37iIl2PnjlN0=; b=T/Gneos0tkyhlHApHDVPksmyjJg7ycHLpjloVoMiNGqnDrIXpaN8ghipMfmRdRhjcy fCJylEcrjIMRfLXHI5sTaksapMxAyNe75fVS+BpBlfjPzfYc6oGvs9WcWNuiZDUm5rBq Pm3yh991Oh3hKsXhAmZb/jQHMZtT9/0GGWkB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=l+nyOjS1yWUE/mgo8NAlllrKb02jTVpZJITyYS9h/LiV7/Z+8SPmxkJ2hMJPWxPjzq yFCLd/f39tCY7ZfyHQoT1/LTyEIkrYyOql4jBTv+lBwAJEEQzQzq4J2NJieATKh5DG4/ YZQNgIKz+VLDeSvF7geuLa6J6c7xsMHZuFrtA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91CC@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91CC@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:10:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <0jAGVB.A.axC.Wsr4MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:10:46 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Apologies to those that don't use HTML email clients for my last message. > Here's a link instead. > > http://www.zonemobius.com/leinhos.gif Have you printed a t-shirt like that? .... !!!! Fun idea. I didn't see your last mail since I stopped reading those "Leinhos out of office" posts... must be several years ago! ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:11:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5CF73BEF5; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-235154202 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E5D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:11:23 -0800 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com><60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com><083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com><214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E5D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:11:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7-235154202 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think it's like, if you're constantly rehearsing standards for wedding = gigs you can't be developing your own music. On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:52 AM, wrote: > Fair enough, but surely being a professional musician would mean you = are in a creative environment consistently rather than sporadically like = us hobbiests, which would suggest that the creativity is flowing = constantly rather than sporadically? Also you would possibly be able to = grow as a musician to be able to push the boundaries further than if you = were doing the music thing in your spare time. >=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --Apple-Mail-7-235154202 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii RKoster@uk.imshealth.com> = wrote:
2010/11/16 <RKoster@uk.imshealth.com>

Hi Petri,<= /span>

=A0=

I have a q= uestion to ask. You have the statement below in your email sig:

=A0=

"Only become professional musician if there is = no choice." -Robert Fripp-

=A0=

I for one = would LOVE to be a pro musician, to make a living out of something I love would be a dream come tr= ue=85=85.. why would you not want that if you love playing/writing/performing music?!?= !?!

Just curious and maybe startin= g a debate, no bad feeling intended.=A0

Rob

Fro= m: Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com]
Sent: 16 November 2010 16:= 30
To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Leinhos, Pete= r is out of the office.

=A0

Peter has really defi= ned the essence of looping with this

in the office-out of the office-in the office-out of the office... etc etc=A0 -routine!



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petri= lahtinen.com
http://pet= rilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://w= ww.myspace.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
http://pet= rilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Rober= t Fripp-
---------------------------------------------------
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-


Fair = enough, but surely being a professional musician would mean you are in a = creative environment consistently rather than sporadically like us = hobbiests, which would suggest that the creativity is flowing constantly = rather than sporadically? Also you would possibly be able to grow as a = musician to be able to push the boundaries further than if you were = doing the music thing in your spare = time.


david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth = and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA = 94610-2730




= --Apple-Mail-7-235154202-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:11:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 426743BEF0; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:11:35 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 173.101.163.56 In-Reply-To: <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Harry Weinberg X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CD53C8753D6D65_1CC0_221E64_Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32843-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD53C872604981-1CC0-E63AA@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: HarryEsq@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:11:54 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CD53C8753D6D65_1CC0_221E64_Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'd like one of those shirts too - Large please. And please send it to my= office, because I don't know when the next time I will be out of my offic= e might be. Harry Weinberg, Esq. Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc. 292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor New York, N.Y. 10017 (212) 889-4100 (212) 889-4105 (F) (917) 687-6019 (C) (212) 989-2908 (OCA) -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 10:54 am Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Still waiting for the t-shirts...=20 =20 Put me down for an XL.=20 =20 Jeff=20 =20 =20 ----------MB_8CD53C8753D6D65_1CC0_221E64_Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I'd= like one of those shirts too - Large please.  And please send it to= my office, because I don't know when the next time I will be out of my of= fice might be.

Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc.
292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10017
(212) 889-4100
(212) 889-4105 (F)
(917) 687-6019 (C)
(212) 989-2908 (OCA)


----= -Original Message-----
From: Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 10:54 am
Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office.

Still waiting for the t-shirts... 
 
Put me down for an XL. 
 
Jeff 
 
 ----------MB_8CD53C8753D6D65_1CC0_221E64_Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:12:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85BA23BF10; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=5qumYsatoQk1 agHekpVAvx/6+X8=; b=xQbxs+MNVbHLkFX9F/nWSNaI10/2f4wjMP1Mxt5R0qQl tbQ3Q3/mjY0+PIsHX68tU4uOKmXxxpMfWaSPU4c9XZjVSKzo8teXJU+7nkNz9nSd dwPZkKs6BEoE20ntGXOxhrUyOf0CdUWQjss8jACj/b0BR9FMrQgqXFlNHz21pYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=message-id:date :from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sasl; b=J6Lwv7 br/85Ij2OusVWZz8Qx7NsCqRadvSVe0CKnT6JOknTu/5zMsBVOScgXlheYWzNmrG vAkn/qnlquccoO+bo2RPEgu7GprGZGNCz1thvPclWFWmZbGj4exNAgf/8W7PNOE6 wjgua3WRPm1UNqaxPfY0T8YS5CayzEnPyAlAY= Message-ID: <4CE2BB87.4030105@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:12:39 -0600 From: "jimp@pobox.com" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91CC@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91CC@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: B94033BA-F1A4-11DF-B3EF-8E8CAFBB27C9-07196044!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:12:43 +0000 (UTC) me likey, send xl On 11/16/2010 11:07 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Apologies to those that don't use HTML email clients for my last message. > Here's a link instead. > > http://www.zonemobius.com/leinhos.gif > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:15:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2DAE3BF17; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QQ12Wg4KcBYmfbFgsl4gV5nkPyI+9w5nIVHZ0V96kFk=; b=mMmV+KAgXf4QWDiv0iEiCzI6hSaUuoFunYLW/JtX+vze290yY8m0SYFPz1vNZTdDxN D2paK0VC+3S2zddhAWJ3WG6abgk4qSQgcqLj5ZSIWeCJEm0qvNrOeIN64wB1FMczE8ru OZrkDKFpcBkSA6PseIFuE8OVwqCJ84GzxX0tM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HvxvoKntnEZdTace9T8KiyD0RuNnfA6u9mwcu9/hJHwX9W6DbuZQq7nxPNEFIFuOFH Ycaaxw6OFsCH1zULd4Z4ImjlN+zrOom9pOB27YsNeyBg/uFkOrWBeD9NkLvY3Z9j8Yk6 3UR/3H/uHpLxFZd/Iz9x1jBNXmy0RfreNQwmU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20101116105314.slfxlaras8gos048@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> <20101116105056.lixvt47bk8wggkk0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <20101116105314.slfxlaras8gos048@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:15:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba211f295c77a504952eb215 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:15:02 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba211f295c77a504952eb215 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What a neat thread and thanks for 'being out of the office' which seemed to fuel this. In Twitter fashion, @mattstevensguitar, for many years I didn't understand this and bemoaned my 'day job' thinking if I could ever earn my keep from the muse things would be better and in reality I've come to believe has time passes that what Matt expressed is the most accurate picture. I think I have relayed this before and if so forgive but a mentor of mine who I once had this same dialog commented did I know whose apartmen= t we were visiting at that time which was lower west side of NYC near the Village. I did not and he told me it was a previous residence of Charles Ives and relayed to me that most of Ives life he sold insurance to pay his way. I try to remember that at times when I feel things might be better. = I also have come to believe that for me it doesn't necessarily need to be music that is paying my way but more so some other skill that I have or wil= l improve on that will one day allow me to be home-based instead of the corp model. Regardless the quest is to have the most time that we can to work with our art. In a sense I've been blessed to have pursued mine as freely a= s I do, I was thinking this morn that because of this list and friendship gained as well as a project I got to tour the west coast quite a bit particularly northern CA which has always been a quest and I'm thankful for that. I'm appreciative of Rick's presence in this list which provided a base to draw to. Jim On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:53 AM, wrote: > Quoting kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com: > >> >> p.s. -- just a heads up everyone -- Peter Leinhos is out of the office >> -- just in case you need to know. >> >> > Yaknow -- sometime I'd really like to meet Peter in person at a music > festival or something like that -- just so I could say "Hey Peter, I see = you > are out of the office!" > > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --90e6ba211f295c77a504952eb215 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What a neat thread and thanks for 'being out of the office' which s= eemed to fuel this.=A0 In Twitter fashion, @mattstevensguitar, for many yea= rs I didn't understand this and bemoaned my 'day job' thinking = if I could ever earn my keep from the muse things would be better and in re= ality I've come to believe has time passes that what Matt expressed is = the most accurate picture.=A0 I think I have relayed this before and if so = forgive but a mentor of mine who I once had this same dialog commented did = I know whose apartment we were visiting at that time which was lower west s= ide of NYC near the Village.=A0 I did not and he told me it was a previous = residence of Charles Ives and relayed to me that most of Ives life he sold = insurance to pay his way.=A0 I try to remember that at times when I feel th= ings might be better.=A0 I also have come to believe that for me it doesn&#= 39;t necessarily need to be music that is paying my way but more so some ot= her skill that I have or will improve on that will one day allow me to be h= ome-based instead of the corp model.=A0 Regardless the quest is to have the= most time that we can to work with our art. In a sense I've been bless= ed to have pursued mine as freely as I do, I was thinking this morn that be= cause of this list and friendship gained as well as a project I got to tour= the west coast quite a bit particularly northern CA which has always been = a quest and I'm thankful for that.=A0 I'm appreciative of Rick'= s presence in this list which provided a base to draw to.

Jim

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:53 AM,= <kk= issinger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
Quoting kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com:

p.s. -- just a heads up everyone -- Peter Leinhos is out of the office
-- just in case you need to know.


Yaknow -- sometime I'd really like to meet Peter in person at a music f= estival or something like that -- just so I could say "Hey Peter, I se= e you are out of the office!"




--
From Brooklyn To Glindr= an, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 P= roceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandca= mp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wo= rdpress.com
--90e6ba211f295c77a504952eb215-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:15:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E9763BF27; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jf0vdsolqhHjU6LMtmYsNuiGTiVS/9dNztqg5XtpbZE=; b=ag8+hxmClZTFqBwfC5XmEGAZ6RlF7qUf3E+UyypBuQRJr5hvbLoJLVk46667LUcpCl VcDAMfvS4Cxh/dXcPGaVSx5T4LOml7MYXQeSBXl2lcqcAWMNDyFwXEg9LbpkVaOkv/XB BPb27/1kyZfksdFpxiKPAlJLNbQJhaMeRIXlo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=veqY5oQdff8TEA2ajiYJPhJ2OygJpq9d8dsH6QhaEEtKweeRxNH1aD46RwaZPD35fm Ev4Hy/5y7eTrbQpLgwMQ5hClKbTp/47mHR6QOyLG+3vium/bq/sd7X5sDx+azmALjXka +HD+Gh6sqMGXPfgXMaiJ40KuTcer/dqSbnL8A= Message-ID: <4CE2BC40.6010902@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:15:44 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <8CD53C872604981-1CC0-E63AA@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CD53C872604981-1CC0-E63AA@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Harry, whenever that time may come, can you please let us all know immediately? appreciated, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > I'd like one of those shirts too - Large please. And please send it > to my office, because I don't know when the next time I will be out of > my office might be. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:19:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46DE73BF34; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:19:54 -0600 Subject: RE: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Thread-Topic: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Thread-Index: AcuFsTbQlxUc46ReR5SzplC1rKgBUwAADf8g Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91E2@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91CC@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-vipre-scanned: 93DE4005001C9B93DE4152 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:19:56 +0000 (UTC) SSBqdXN0IHdlbnQgdG8gY3VzdG9taW5rLmNvbSBhbmQgdXNlZCB0aGVpciBkZXNpZ24gdG9vbC4N Ckl0J3MgJDIyIHRvIHByaW50IGp1c3Qgb25lLiAgVGhlIGNvc3QgZ29lcyBkb3duIHRvICQxNiBp ZiANCnlvdSBidXkgMTAsIGJ1dCB0aGVuIHNvbWVvbmUgaXMgZ29pbmcgdG8gaGF2ZSB0byBkZWFs IHdpdGgNCnRoZSBsb2dpc3RpY3Mgb2YgbWFpbGluZyB0aGVtIGFyb3VuZCB0aGUgd29ybGQuDQoN CkJ1dCBhdCBsZWFzdCB3ZSBjYW4gaGF2ZSBhIGZ1biBkZXNpZ24gY29tcGV0aXRpb24gOikNCg0K SmVmZg0KDQoNCi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQpGcm9tOiBQZXIgQm95c2VuIFtt YWlsdG86cGVyYm95c2VuQGdtYWlsLmNvbV0gDQpTZW50OiBUdWVzZGF5LCBOb3ZlbWJlciAxNiwg MjAxMCAxMToxMSBBTQ0KVG86IExvb3BlcnMtRGVsaWdodEBsb29wZXJzLWRlbGlnaHQuY29tDQpT dWJqZWN0OiBSZTogTGVpbmhvcywgUGV0ZXIgaXMgb3V0IG9mIHRoZSBvZmZpY2UuDQoNCk9uIFR1 ZSwgTm92IDE2LCAyMDEwIGF0IDY6MDcgUE0sIEplZmYgTGFyc29uIDxqZWZmLmxhcnNvbkBzYWls cG9pbnQuY29tPiB3cm90ZToNCj4gQXBvbG9naWVzIHRvIHRob3NlIHRoYXQgZG9uJ3QgdXNlIEhU TUwgZW1haWwgY2xpZW50cyBmb3IgbXkgbGFzdCBtZXNzYWdlLg0KPiBIZXJlJ3MgYSBsaW5rIGlu c3RlYWQuDQo+DQo+IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuem9uZW1vYml1cy5jb20vbGVpbmhvcy5naWYNCg0KSGF2 ZSB5b3UgcHJpbnRlZCBhIHQtc2hpcnQgbGlrZSB0aGF0PyAgLi4uLiAgISEhISAgRnVuIGlkZWEu DQpJIGRpZG4ndCBzZWUgeW91ciBsYXN0IG1haWwgc2luY2UgSSBzdG9wcGVkIHJlYWRpbmcgdGhv c2UgIkxlaW5ob3Mgb3V0DQpvZiBvZmZpY2UiIHBvc3RzLi4uIG11c3QgYmUgc2V2ZXJhbCB5ZWFy cyBhZ28hIDstKQ0KDQpQZXINCg0K From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:26:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 282A03BF41; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com><60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com><083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com><7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91CC@barq.sailpoint.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91E2@barq.sailpoint.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:26:01 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 173.101.163.56 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91E2@barq.sailpoint.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Harry Weinberg X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CD53CA795300F5_1CC0_222A9D_Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32843-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD53CA79471A24-1CC0-E68A7@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: HarryEsq@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:26:24 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CD53CA795300F5_1CC0_222A9D_Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I can't design worth a lick but I would definitely be down for 2 of these= shirts. I'm imagining being in some remote corner of the world wearing= my Leinhos, Peter shirt running into one of y'all with the same shirt (di= fferent color, of course) and remembering how small the world really is ..= ...=20 I once met someone who lived around the corner from me in Brooklyn while= traveling in a remote, very small town in Greece. =20 Harry Weinberg, Esq. Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc. 292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor New York, N.Y. 10017 (212) 889-4100 (212) 889-4105 (F) (917) 687-6019 (C) (212) 989-2908 (OCA) -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 12:19 pm Subject: RE: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. I just went to customink.com and used their design tool. It's $22 to print just one. The cost goes down to $16 if=20 you buy 10, but then someone is going to have to deal with the logistics of mailing them around the world. But at least we can have a fun design competition :) Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:11 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Larson = wrote: > Apologies to those that don't use HTML email clients for my last message= . > Here's a link instead. > > http://www.zonemobius.com/leinhos.gif Have you printed a t-shirt like that? .... !!!! Fun idea. I didn't see your last mail since I stopped reading those "Leinhos out of office" posts... must be several years ago! ;-) Per =20 ----------MB_8CD53CA795300F5_1CC0_222A9D_Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I= can't design worth a lick but I would definitely be down for 2 of these= shirts.  I'm imagining being in some remote corner of the world wear= ing my Leinhos, Peter shirt running into one of y'all with the same shirt= (different color, of course) and remembering how small the world really= is ..... 

I once met someone who lived around the corner from me in Brooklyn wh= ile traveling in a remote, very small town in Greece.  

Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc.
292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10017
(212) 889-4100
(212) 889-4105 (F)
(917) 687-6019 (C)
(212) 989-2908 (OCA)


----= -Original Message-----
From: Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 12:19 pm
Subject: RE: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office.

I just went to customink.com and used=
 their design tool.
It's $22 to print just one.  The cost goes down to $16 if=20
you buy 10, but then someone is going to have to deal with
the logistics of mailing them around the world.

But at least we can have a fun design competition :)

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen=
@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:11 AM
To: Loopers-Delight=
@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office.

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
> Apologies to those that don't use HTML email clients for my last mess=
age.
> Here's a link instead.
>
> h=
ttp://www.zonemobius.com/leinhos.gif

Have you printed a t-shirt like that?  ....  !!!!  Fun idea.
I didn't see your last mail since I stopped reading those "Leinhos out
of office" posts... must be several years ago! ;-)

Per
----------MB_8CD53CA795300F5_1CC0_222A9D_Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:36:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 417D43BF3B; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=G/eVcNZrJoTCiJdH9a6jacB+ApSoiQwAddpgfk9za0JSz3nOjHvL7J8SVdudl8GthOIZsErPLaYlAffNz18qVzCPXtlVZ3lazpwuaiRQ4owe+RJGozseESZCfMG9AOaU; Message-ID: <20101116113635.d70pohqtc0gggoc8@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:36:35 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com><60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com><083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com><214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E5D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Quoting David Gans : > > I think it's like, if you're constantly rehearsing standards for > wedding gigs you can't be developing your own music. > You should really hear the "Pachelbel Canon" with real canons. I always suggest it but no bride has ever taken me up on it. And, it would be hard to haul canons up to the choir loft, anyway. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:45:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED61D3BE94; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=MU/tauY6PsAtd/+sf3LTJY4yQF0TEx6B9QmPMtYfsGS8OXjoxNpodslonPaA2bKmACVblUiAZH5CtpPyrlMLQqT0XRfhsREAVwC2Zen7UldjLEcF5dkowsaYBNqKmhtgGX5o6Mz9lLB2bbmTjNInPQFwE+6UM4GTesyHXOSlK0s= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1289929521; bh=mXOCNW8VOAVIDkOjFI5n2DjiX+tyMs6ChZ8iqdRwAEg=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=jmZBSrp4KhLzro7eqovFrqsDaGYMKO/FDr4RgVSY6NCxCmWSqKe9toA7ni3RPoeqXzNp3GpRsFtdEffH2RTOQCcrtyMs/qD4jv2i2V5vW5g+qecSg4ED350cFxALJf5g0eL+9IQCUVCaYlaAXhygkmEwK7Cy7q4EJf8H8+CfMbI= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: yHkyOWsVM1lOoEFN2a_dhQwm4cp0F9c8LcfXBHtDObTV_fd JA2XjEH0IKIdVCmSocTeK6OqEQvIWIBeev7usskuOfuFAvW.i7Ao6A0uvmKy sdShOi4IPvBDTONs9tol66vagdtv4FqP4iTUAipMy2xwxa1XW70PuBr8iidN T8oAM3AKf2_fmo8nFplOTAOpuZlKYUOrJfCbSF6.ljZ36pGZ.zR0nYVfx9vw 8YlQ7uuDxAHsztXXylCY4G7EBGvbs0AB2HeEafR4e6eSm.FPDAlEqD5xDG3m W_Y51Xu3QV7IzqEb8WcErv9UhZFcjNKCslCisNyaBJw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91E2@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91CC@barq.sailpoint.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91E2@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-237187639 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:45:16 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <-dPr0.A.NxD.zMs4MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:45:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-237187639 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Coolest t-shirt ever :) Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 16 Nov 2010, at 17:19, Jeff Larson wrote: > I just went to customink.com and used their design tool. > It's $22 to print just one. The cost goes down to $16 if > you buy 10, but then someone is going to have to deal with > the logistics of mailing them around the world. > > But at least we can have a fun design competition :) > > Jeff > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:11 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Larson > wrote: >> Apologies to those that don't use HTML email clients for my last >> message. >> Here's a link instead. >> >> http://www.zonemobius.com/leinhos.gif > > Have you printed a t-shirt like that? .... !!!! Fun idea. > I didn't see your last mail since I stopped reading those "Leinhos out > of office" posts... must be several years ago! ;-) > > Per > --Apple-Mail-6-237187639 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Coolest t-shirt ever :)

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 16 Nov 2010, = at 17:19, Jeff Larson wrote:

I just went to customink.com and used their design = tool.
It's $22 to print just one.  The cost goes down to $16 = if 
you buy 10, but then someone is going to have to = deal with
the logistics of mailing them = around the world.

But at least we can have a fun design competition = :)

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is = out of the office.
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, = Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>= ; wrote:
Apologies to = those that don't use HTML email clients for my last message.
Here's a link instead.


Have you printed a t-shirt like = that?  ....  !!!!  Fun idea.
I didn't see your last mail since I stopped reading = those "Leinhos out
of office" posts... must be = several years ago! ;-)
Per

=

= --Apple-Mail-6-237187639-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 17:57:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8E563BF02; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=G5XbVJRIGRhCu09/hf42esD7vt1Qk9nkNJnjd/dw78k=; b=oelzPU3jHH4XxBn5BK6vhp/2mummtE5ELyy8v2OohbWhtAzk/GCldHNrx3suW+Lm2v DhGIjJO3OJz4bzc1S+2rOUOC8DyjbfehdFmSMYiI0aVNRnJtPfdJaGJ82+ovIdRBO6jb CWKSJOe47kATGVnQEZpWvx+gkkBEtABenhHNY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XqBa+/KLZ1xpU+HgLHkX+GcaVhQZfENY2fzWrRRueq6XWbUWveCNvRIFdpEjVcBQlC tiepsZKQn0sRGTsZaI+QpPKdsH8YlZNUR0E6MziIuvfBz5N9lXVWFq+zpszs9mnqkt24 hIU0M5yPMuuH+T5SULAmIaTjlDujbk71AIMHg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91CC@barq.sailpoint.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91E2@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:57:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Clint Allen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221534d6476b745c04952f4a47 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:57:33 +0000 (UTC) --00221534d6476b745c04952f4a47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I thought about printing the shirt last time, but couldn't decide on: Peter Leinhos is out of the office or (what we're used to seeing..) Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Either way, a great way to spot a fellow looper! I'll price it out at Cafe Press and see what the $ is.. Clint Allen On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > Coolest t-shirt ever :) > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 16 Nov 2010, at 17:19, Jeff Larson wrote: > > I just went to customink.com and used their design tool. > It's $22 to print just one. The cost goes down to $16 if > you buy 10, but then someone is going to have to deal with > the logistics of mailing them around the world. > > But at least we can have a fun design competition :) > > Jeff > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:11 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Larson > wrote: > > Apologies to those that don't use HTML email clients for my last message. > Here's a link instead. > > http://www.zonemobius.com/leinhos.gif > > > Have you printed a t-shirt like that? .... !!!! Fun idea. > I didn't see your last mail since I stopped reading those "Leinhos out > of office" posts... must be several years ago! ;-) > > Per > > > -- Clint E. Allen * Technology Consultant * Sound Engineering * Musician --00221534d6476b745c04952f4a47 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought about printing the shirt last time, but couldn't decide = on:
=A0
Peter Leinhos is out of the office
=A0
or (what we're used to seeing..)
=A0
Leinhos, Peter is out of the office.
=A0
Either way, a great way to spot a fellow looper!
=A0
I'll price it out at Cafe Press and see what the $ is..
=A0
Clint Allen

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Matt Stevens <= span dir=3D"ltr"><ma= ttstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Coolest t-shirt ever :)=20


On 16 Nov 2010, at 17:19, Jeff Larson wrote:

I just went to customink.com and used their design tool.
It's $22 to print just one.=A0 = The cost goes down to $16 if=A0
you buy 10, but then someone is going to have to= deal with
the logistics of mailing them around the world.<= /div>

But at least we can have a fun design competitio= n :)

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]=A0<= /div>
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office= .

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Larson <= ;jeff.larson= @sailpoint.com> wrote:
Apologies to those that don't use HTML email= clients for my last message.
Here's a link instead.


Have you printed a t-shirt like that?=A0 <= /span>....=A0 !!!!=A0 Fun idea.
I didn't see your last mail since I stopped = reading those "Leinhos out
of office" posts... must be several years a= go! ;-)

Per

<= br>



-- =
Clint E. Allen
* Technology Consultant
* Sound Engineering
*=A0Musician

--00221534d6476b745c04952f4a47-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 18:16:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCF163BF2F; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 525357006/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.183.228/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.183.228 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtEBAC9Z4kxV0rfk/2dsb2JhbAAHlFjPC4VLBI1Z X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,206,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="525357006" Message-ID: <4CE2CA72.9030909@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:16:18 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com><60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com><083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com><214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E5D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> In-Reply-To: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E5D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:16:05 +0000 (UTC) RKoster@uk.imshealth.com wrote: > Fair enough, but surely being a professional musician would mean you are > in a creative environment consistently rather than sporadically like us > hobbiests, which would suggest that the creativity is flowing constantly > rather than sporadically? The artist is desperate to realise the half heard sounds. The entertainer is desperate for an audience. The professional is desperate to be payed. ..and the hobbyist has no worries. mix and match andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 18:45:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC5C73BF22; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:45:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <4CE2BB87.4030105@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:45:07 -0800 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91CC@barq.sailpoint.com> <4CE2BB87.4030105@pobox.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <6eBQ-.A.AFF.2Et4MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:45:10 +0000 (UTC) I'd go for one, too. XL for me. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 18:53:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 939423BF37; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Aw4LxTCqAAjbNLggviSqrtFOhVcAOlwaIgMO++JH+QglPTxf9pb+Jl+mRuVdPmUdiMoib43tblcljiyPQDhsBR7PRM4aMqaZ/Zg0p2I5AlOfqJzvb4MoWgebMXhHaOOg; Message-ID: <20101116125316.fl5j78o600co4kgk@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:53:16 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714016D0B6E91CC@barq.sailpoint.com> <4CE2BB87.4030105@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Count me in... I'll take an XL From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 19:24:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED3BD3BEFB; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE2DA46.7030905@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:23:50 -0600 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rang III loop copy (multiply)question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2010 19:23:59.0621 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1DCB350:01CB85C3] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Hiddy ho, While the Rang(TM) III doesn't have a multiply function in the sense of extending a single loop, it can do all the things you mention. On 16-Nov-10 7:07 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > hi rangers: > the rang 3 is really catching my eye now,is it possible to do a sort of multiply? that is copy the contents of > loop 1 as you are recording and adding content by overdubbing and make loop 2 longer than the initial one? Record a master loop (always loop 3 on the III), then you can record up to 3 "slave" loops which will be an exact multiple of loop 3. If loop 3 is 5 seconds long, loops 1, 2 and 4 will be 5, 10, 15, 20 seconds. There are two Play Style that support this behavior: Serial Sync and Sync. Serial Sync Loop 3 can play with loops 1, 2 or 4, but loops 1, 2 and 4 cannot play with each other. Instead they play one after the other while loop 3 plays continuously. This is designed for playing loops that are pieces of a song (verse, chorus, bridge...) with a rhythmic backing. Sync All 4 loops can play at the same time and are synced. > can you define the length of loop 2 (for example loop 1 is in 4/4 and loop 2 is in 3/4 or is it quantized and > dependent on the master loop? this si soemthing essential in songwritting and something most compact loopers lack! Since we employ no click prior to recording you are free, to some extent, to mix time signatures. Ex. 1 - Master loop 3 is 1 measure of 3/4. Loop 2 could be 3 measures of 4/4 and loop 1 is 3 measures of 5/4. Ex. 2 - Master loop 3 is 1 measure of 2/4. Loop 2 could be 4 measures of 3/4 and loop 1 is 1 measure of 4/4. Using the Free Play Style you can create literally any combination of time signatures. For example, loop 1 is 6 measures of 4/4, loop 2 is 13 measures of 3/4, loop 3 is 1 measure of 5/4, etc., etc. There's another way to remove the fur from this feline using the Copy function. For example, record loop 2 and play it. Use Copy to direct the III's output to an empty loop, say loop 4. Tapping loop 4's button starts and stops recording, so you can make a new loop that has the content of loop 2 repeated as many times as you wish. And you can play your instrument to add new content at the same time if you like. While a little off topic, I can do the following with the Rang(TM) III. Record master loop 3; stack another part on loop 3; record loop 1 so it's twice as long as 3; record loop 2 so it's three times as long as loop 3. Play this creation and record the whole thing to loop 4 making it, for example, 4 times as long as loop 2. Then erase loops 1, 2 and 3 and create additional loops to play along with loop 4. -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. 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PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 19:34:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A65D3BF10; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 491 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:34:54 UTC Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:26:38 +0000 (UTC) From: loopbozo@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <338925901.1086200.1289935598054.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: A footnote on Peter Leinhos and Fripp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1086199_25191480.1289935598053" X-Originating-IP: [76.25.206.145] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:34:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1086199_25191480.1289935598053 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So I followed the instructions in the email from Peter Leinhos concerning tech help in his absence and contacted Greg Bouffard in the "Telecom Godz" department of Farmers Insurance in LA to fill him in on the ongoing amusement we have at Peter's expense. Yes Peter is out of the office, but Greg feels confident that he would want a t-shirt. Greg however cannot address the continuing email situation (help desk) and did not seem to know if Peter was a "looper" , clandestine or otherwise. I think given the chain of command,Greg could use a t-shirt also, I'll forward the t-shirt email w/photo to Peter.... I'm sure I have his address here somewhere. FYI - 20 years before Fripp wrote about it, Glenn Gould had some very insightful things to say about the nature of professional performance as a lifestyle. "The Glenn Gould Reader" has some interesting sections that address this matter. bryan helm office escapee (6 years and running) "This is damn tough chewing gum" R.Fripp circa 1985 quoting graffiti found on a condom machine he'd seen in a train station. ------=_Part_1086199_25191480.1289935598053 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>So = I followed the instructions in the email from Peter Leinhos concerning tech= help in his absence and contacted Greg Bouffard in the "Telecom Godz" depa= rtment of Farmers Insurance in LA to fill him in on the ongoing amusement w= e have at Peter's expense. Yes Peter is out of the office, but Greg feels c= onfident that he would want a t-shirt. Greg however cannot address the cont= inuing email situation (help desk) and did not seem to know if Peter was a = "looper" , clandestine or otherwise. I think given the chain of command,Gre= g could use a t-shirt also, I'll forward the t-shirt email w/photo to Peter= .... I'm sure I have his address here somewhere. FYI - 20 years before Frip= p wrote about it, Glenn Gould had some very insightful things to say about = the nature of professional performance as a lifestyle. "The Glenn Gould Rea= der" has some interesting sections that address this matter.

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he'd seen in a train station.
= ------=_Part_1086199_25191480.1289935598053-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 19:41:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35F3C3BF0B; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=1IgH2AoPw9jCmhC7m/1aKMkfLTSbY3SLXRRrgDWsaOs=; b=TGLc/qwmSe1nyDV7sBguVKCQhyfLL2oFj1gqlIJDbzB08FoUSUwBd22aQu7xaJJZZw fHKubu+eM0R90lEsXIpC8fUUgLFRSKnjcfWtbRDmYVf9/Q/1qPH5GPAPSiFymabQvjEH zdPVFgkpAzg7kMjlnjGsj4AfNLM8VOXUHn+zw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=loi6hEgTJjiKiGt1rhPPeak4mg41loyaYHGUzSgejQj+XR/ynREDhvJPOuCnsi5gU6 0Sy6K7N07yNUNr08+KgzYnrFNRSnycvDI8AOi59IBvs4WtWazLnUu/j5CYQ2ze0GZe5X 41tQIJ5SzE6yJtcflz05gqEUWaBWZ6eZEA7vo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4CE2CA72.9030909@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E5D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <4CE2CA72.9030909@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:41:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wAE9cJ0zuUZ_dsWvGlYRVNqYdEQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368322e4bf2f41049530bdc7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:41:23 +0000 (UTC) --0016368322e4bf2f41049530bdc7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its hell when yer in and its hell when yer out... I loved being a professional musician, touring was fabulous, all that sex and drugs, studio was cool, became a genius at Sonic the Hedgehog, Shooting videos was fun, cos that was my job, photoshoots.. cool as fuck... all thos= e make-up girls and screaming queen assistants running about fetching me Latt=E9s (before I knew what a latt=E9 was... ) But then the meetings... MEETINGS?? I hear you ask, yes... hours and hours of wingeing moaning band meetings, days and days of endless management/record company meetings... pushin, slowly pushing, in that very annoying kind of... "we love and stand by your thing its great" way for a hit.. or at least a track you could danc= e to... of hum along too would be just great guys... in the end theres none o= f your original band there... its just meetings and meetings, and getting up late and going to bed late... and pissing off your girlfriend cos you cant cook anymore, refusing to walk if you can get a taxi... so then I was out... phew... breath of fresh air.. foreign fresh air infact... working.. in a job... it was GREAT!!!... playing at a few cellar bars and art galleries, where a few people still knew me, but I could well.= . I could loop!!! In those days using 5 different delay pedals with hold functions, no synch.. oh and a vortex... Its was so easy, so simple... do a job for money... and play what the fucking hell you like!!! Again... after 13 years it was like a revelation!!! After another 13 years.. well Im sick of working... should have gone for SOMETHING within music, as it is I built up a successful e-learning film company, but now I want out... HATE IT! HATE HATE HATE it... I tell my MD that people arn't turning up on time and are leaving early, then I realize that it mainly me... shit... Now I have a kid, its more difficult to throw it all in and be skint again.= . so Ill stick with the little bugger till he's 18... Then Im off... wife can come if she wants... if she doesn.. then too bad... where? any-fucking-where... I might buy a cottage in a village in Morrocco = I like next year.. so.. come my 60th birthday.,. youll find me there, maybe have little bar, or looping cafe.. any where without TV, without mobile phone coverage or without fucking Wifi... and loop to my hearts content, i= n the warm evenings, with a beer in my hand, the only light coming from a faintly bluish glow of the softstep at my feet... Mark On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:16 PM, andy butler wrote= : > RKoster@uk.imshealth.com wrote: > >> Fair enough, but surely being a professional musician would mean you are >> in a creative environment consistently rather than sporadically like us >> hobbiests, which would suggest that the creativity is flowing constantly >> rather than sporadically? >> > > The artist is desperate to realise the half heard sounds. > The entertainer is desperate for an audience. > The professional is desperate to be payed. > > ..and the hobbyist has no worries. > > mix and match > > > andy > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --0016368322e4bf2f41049530bdc7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its hell when yer in and its hell when yer out...

I loved being a pr= ofessional musician, touring was fabulous, all that sex and drugs, studio w= as cool, became a genius at Sonic the Hedgehog, Shooting videos was fun, co= s that was my job, photoshoots.. cool as fuck... all those make-up girls an= d screaming queen assistants running about fetching me Latt=E9s (before I k= new what a latt=E9 was... ) But then the meetings... MEETINGS?? I hear you = ask, yes... hours and hours of wingeing moaning band meetings, days and day= s of endless management/record company meetings... pushin, slowly pushing, = in that very annoying kind of... "we love and stand by your thing its = great" way for a hit.. or at least a track you could dance to... of hu= m along too would be just great guys... in the end theres none of your orig= inal band there... its just meetings and meetings, and getting up late and = going to bed late... and pissing off your girlfriend cos you cant cook anym= ore, refusing to walk if you can get a taxi...
so then I was out... phew... breath of fresh air.. foreign fresh air infact= ... working.. in a job... it was GREAT!!!... playing at a few cellar bars a= nd art galleries, where a few people still knew me, but I could well.. I co= uld loop!!! In those days using 5 different delay pedals with hold function= s, no synch.. oh and a vortex... Its was so easy, so simple... do a job for= money... and play what the fucking hell you like!!! Again... after 13 year= s it was like a revelation!!!
After another 13 years.. well Im sick of working... should have gone for SO= METHING within music, as it is I built up a successful e-learning film comp= any, but now I want out... HATE IT! HATE HATE HATE it... I tell my MD that = people arn't turning up on time and are leaving early, then I realize t= hat it mainly me... shit...
Now I have a kid, its more difficult to throw it all in and be skint again.= . so Ill stick with the little bugger till he's 18...

Then Im o= ff... wife can come if she wants... if she doesn.. then too bad... where? a= ny-fucking-where... I might buy a cottage in a village in Morrocco I like n= ext year.. so.. come my 60th birthday.,. youll find me there, maybe have li= ttle bar, or looping cafe.. any where without TV, without mobile phone cove= rage or without fucking Wifi...=A0 and loop to my hearts content, in the wa= rm evenings, with a beer in my hand, the only light coming from a faintly b= luish glow of the softstep at my feet...

Mark



On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at = 7:16 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
RKoster@uk.imshealth.com wrote:
Fair enough, but surely being a professional musician would mean you are in= a creative environment consistently rather than sporadically like us hobbi= ests, which would suggest that the creativity is flowing constantly rather = than sporadically?

The artist is desperate to realise the half heard sounds.
The entertainer is desperate for an audience.
The professional is desperate to be payed.

..and =A0the hobbyist has no worries.

mix and match


andy




--
mark francombewww.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markf= rancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--0016368322e4bf2f41049530bdc7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 19:47:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 194503BF2C; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=d7uLzkaVT9rcIcWe6CflIGOvc5kMW5EgWxlRrrs9Gv0=; b=q+uOqOapyt99Ay9q8pcDa1kcIrcPAP40zuNR+hMPtvDTZqJsW8Ps0lCO0rmuOzLO6j 4EXCQhB8FT5taVIjDEdtB0HYGWXKKa4spoHI+1vWzLo3x4ZgpuaMwQyDgQpuu/ahIgg3 zqS6hzpv5ujvWZfsC8XWx6bQnEpLPDvClgya0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lQIlcXkC0XIypNJr0jiFabvsYYdjMvSO+Pdz1GHvFSBpk91eK1fzkhd+HyIQS80LqJ 0yz+uw2fCbEIUwjFGzxGSj3a2z+lEpdY6Fq+HrGEjVb2DbM/xey/AlMcQigjfyaUd0Kp H3PGYuFzBQf8lbqISyWGLV6H254QTBvUQk1zE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E5D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <4CE2CA72.9030909@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:47:43 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-LnmoD.A.PdG.h_t4MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:47:45 +0000 (UTC) I feel significantly less content than I did ten minutes ago. Thanks Mark :-) Kevin On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:41 AM, mark francombe w= rote: > Its hell when yer in and its hell when yer out... > > I loved being a professional musician, touring was fabulous, all that sex > and drugs, studio was cool, became a genius at Sonic the Hedgehog, Shooti= ng > videos was fun, cos that was my job, photoshoots.. cool as fuck... all th= ose > make-up girls and screaming queen assistants running about fetching me > Latt=E9s (before I knew what a latt=E9 was... ) But then the meetings... > MEETINGS?? I hear you ask, yes... hours and hours of wingeing moaning ban= d > meetings, days and days of endless management/record company meetings... > pushin, slowly pushing, in that very annoying kind of... "we love and sta= nd > by your thing its great" way for a hit.. or at least a track you could da= nce > to... of hum along too would be just great guys... in the end theres none= of > your original band there... its just meetings and meetings, and getting u= p > late and going to bed late... and pissing off your girlfriend cos you can= t > cook anymore, refusing to walk if you can get a taxi... > so then I was out... phew... breath of fresh air.. foreign fresh air > infact... working.. in a job... it was GREAT!!!... playing at a few cella= r > bars and art galleries, where a few people still knew me, but I could wel= l.. > I could loop!!! In those days using 5 different delay pedals with hold > functions, no synch.. oh and a vortex... Its was so easy, so simple... do= a > job for money... and play what the fucking hell you like!!! Again... afte= r > 13 years it was like a revelation!!! > After another 13 years.. well Im sick of working... should have gone for > SOMETHING within music, as it is I built up a successful e-learning film > company, but now I want out... HATE IT! HATE HATE HATE it... I tell my MD > that people arn't turning up on time and are leaving early, then I realiz= e > that it mainly me... shit... > Now I have a kid, its more difficult to throw it all in and be skint agai= n.. > so Ill stick with the little bugger till he's 18... > > Then Im off... wife can come if she wants... if she doesn.. then too bad.= .. > where? any-fucking-where... I might buy a cottage in a village in Morrocc= o I > like next year.. so.. come my 60th birthday.,. youll find me there, maybe > have little bar, or looping cafe.. any where without TV, without mobile > phone coverage or without fucking Wifi...=A0 and loop to my hearts conten= t, in > the warm evenings, with a beer in my hand, the only light coming from a > faintly bluish glow of the softstep at my feet... > > Mark > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 19:48:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 169263BF39; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=VKdcsmbPJAaLvR22J4J28s+YdiegqJirR0u4DwBv6DM=; b=CmtWudf13lWQpbiU8+hK/A55bozjropk9BQTB0XYtwIA0hWxLykhMakf3ClLAo7pQD 4EjaX2ErBzMKvyUsydKItMHLi2zbTTAp3/yGPGTRyFMApBrVKUJTTI0Os9D7XbNRLvLt ZnwXfD700sV9Xv0NNkvPG6OmAZoSh6G7alJ0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=tKJLs30fb+A9+8QitbE3rlFhPZ9C7t4ZsZqidCree276BeWcOsO1ZU2ST579nPEuMm XcIWjzJZat7fbjv9wmsvhE7J+YB8qtZORnExXpVnvJ/RHE9XKeWNNaj/c7DcupvGo3FZ 2sbj0LAmvQbar92ZgcLLoSyD8JfXUgFG74XLY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E5D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <4CE2CA72.9030909@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:48:23 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: T04VkO_9WjOT3KFqoNrSa_QP9Ak Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364274b41a519d049530d8e9 Resent-Message-ID: <7ptJIB.A.vhG.cAu4MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:48:44 +0000 (UTC) --0016364274b41a519d049530d8e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 By the way... sorry for the lengthy rambling nonsensical and badly written gramaticals of the last post... but.. is'nt that what the Leinhos, Petter threads are always all about? Same old jokes for a bit, then along comes some rambling philosophizing? Well, thats what I use them for... Mark --0016364274b41a519d049530d8e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable By the way... sorry for the lengthy rambling nonsensical and badly written = gramaticals of the last post... but.. is'nt that what the Leinhos, Pett= er threads are always all about? Same old jokes for a bit, then along comes= some rambling philosophizing?
Well, thats what I use them for...

Mark
--0016364274b41a519d049530d8e9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 19:53:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C807E3BF45; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=06ASkW7fqd27H++BtJ7vFl3Pg3cQAuMgrrj9Y8rF1lE=; b=jxe4bSp4UpfyPKwoNRDYlVGgCw+uFZIB//CMyjX5+877CBThLoGBopOcsqxSCrc6fd NXOk2DRynDP3Vy92alaDHFkgrDq2Nqwv+EUUFzDcyU+/VnY0wp77ApvlMM2BKgDsJZkB CWpM6g2trwuvrnafTSkJhYVhgAzwtAtlyAWOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LtLDYM+VMBS0jqSag3mKWKBtX6WSeUHW0DyvZ6bX7eXNEH4nQ0q9QulVfgMQ6QEPBt silc379dFYmPR1E16OsRYWduH8wNy5svQfJutozpUv7PXKmv+Qk/f1cVAz6rbgRLg4X5 Yr3TnIDVDd9Ln2eaWf+9L+00c7QFJ19Wt/DbQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <338925901.1086200.1289935598054.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <338925901.1086200.1289935598054.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:53:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A footnote on Peter Leinhos and Fripp From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ace540a411049530e841 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:53:15 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ace540a411049530e841 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan that's a riot! Congrats on escaping the office... will I find the Glen Gould Reader if I google it? Jim On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:26 PM, wrote: > So I followed the instructions in the email from Peter Leinhos concerning > tech help in his absence and contacted Greg Bouffard in the "Telecom Godz= " > department of Farmers Insurance in LA to fill him in on the ongoing > amusement we have at Peter's expense. Yes Peter is out of the office, but > Greg feels confident that he would want a t-shirt. Greg however cannot > address the continuing email situation (help desk) and did not seem to kn= ow > if Peter was a "looper" , clandestine or otherwise. I think given the cha= in > of command,Greg could use a t-shirt also, I'll forward the t-shirt email > w/photo to Peter.... I'm sure I have his address here somewhere. FYI - 20 > years before Fripp wrote about it, Glenn Gould had some very insightful > things to say about the nature of professional performance as a lifestyle= . > "The Glenn Gould Reader" has some interesting sections that address this > matter. > > bryan helm > office escape= e > (6 years and running) > > > "This is damn tough chewing gum" > R.Fripp circa 1985 quoting graffiti found on a condom machine > he'd seen in a train station. > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054ace540a411049530e841 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan that's a riot!=A0 Congrats on=A0 escaping the office... will I fi= nd the Glen Gould Reader if I google it?

Jim

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:26 PM, <loopbozo@comcast.net> wrote:=
So I f= ollowed the instructions in the email from Peter Leinhos concerning tech he= lp in his absence and contacted Greg Bouffard in the "Telecom Godz&quo= t; department of Farmers Insurance in LA to fill him in on the ongoing amus= ement we have at Peter's expense. Yes Peter is out of the office, but G= reg feels confident that he would want a t-shirt. Greg however cannot addre= ss the continuing email situation (help desk) and did not seem to know if P= eter was a "looper" , clandestine or otherwise. I think given the= chain of command,Greg could use a t-shirt also, I'll forward the t-shi= rt email w/photo to Peter.... I'm sure I have his address here somewher= e. FYI - 20 years before Fripp wrote about it, Glenn Gould had some very in= sightful things to say about the nature of professional performance as a li= festyle. "The Glenn Gould Reader" has some interesting sections t= hat address this matter.

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 bryan helm
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= office escapee (6 years and running)


"This is damn tough c= hewing gum"
R.Fripp circa 1985 quoting graffiti found on a condom machine
he'd = seen in a train station.



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz re= cording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.=

www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wor= dpress.com
--20cf3054ace540a411049530e841-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 19:57:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 473473BF3E; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E5D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <4CE2CA72.9030909@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:56:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01CB85C8.6AF8E140" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:57:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CB85C8.6AF8E140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BFI=E2=80=99d come to Moracco to play at your looping caf=C3=A9 = Mark! From: mark francombe=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:41 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Its hell when yer in and its hell when yer out... I loved being a professional musician, touring was fabulous, all that = sex and drugs, studio was cool, became a genius at Sonic the Hedgehog, = Shooting videos was fun, cos that was my job, photoshoots.. cool as = fuck... all those make-up girls and screaming queen assistants running = about fetching me Latt=C3=A9s (before I knew what a latt=C3=A9 was... ) = But then the meetings... MEETINGS?? I hear you ask, yes... hours and = hours of wingeing moaning band meetings, days and days of endless = management/record company meetings... pushin, slowly pushing, in that = very annoying kind of... "we love and stand by your thing its great" way = for a hit.. or at least a track you could dance to... of hum along too = would be just great guys... in the end theres none of your original band = there... its just meetings and meetings, and getting up late and going = to bed late... and pissing off your girlfriend cos you cant cook = anymore, refusing to walk if you can get a taxi...=20 so then I was out... phew... breath of fresh air.. foreign fresh air = infact... working.. in a job.. it was GREAT!!!... playing at a few = cellar bars and art galleries, where a few people still knew me, but I = could well.. I could loop!!! In those days using 5 different delay = pedals with hold functions, no synch.. oh and a vortex... Its was so = easy, so simple... do a job for money... and play what the fucking hell = you like!!! Again... after 13 years it was like a revelation!!! After another 13 years.. well Im sick of working... should have gone for = SOMETHING within music, as it is I built up a successful e-learning film = company, but now I want out... HATE IT! HATE HATE HATE it... I tell my = MD that people arn't turning up on time and are leaving early, then I = realize that it mainly me... shit... Now I have a kid, its more difficult to throw it all in and be skint = again.. so Ill stick with the little bugger till he's 18...=20 Then Im off... wife can come if she wants... if she doesn.. then too = bad... where? any-fucking-where... I might buy a cottage in a village in = Morrocco I like next year.. so.. come my 60th birthday.,. youll find me = there, maybe have little bar, or looping cafe.. any where without TV, = without mobile phone coverage or without fucking Wifi... and loop to my = hearts content, in the warm evenings, with a beer in my hand, the only = light coming from a faintly bluish glow of the softstep at my feet... Mark On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:16 PM, andy butler = wrote: RKoster@uk.imshealth.com wrote: Fair enough, but surely being a professional musician would mean you = are in a creative environment consistently rather than sporadically like = us hobbiests, which would suggest that the creativity is flowing = constantly rather than sporadically?=20 The artist is desperate to realise the half heard sounds. The entertainer is desperate for an audience. The professional is desperate to be payed. ..and the hobbyist has no worries. mix and match andy --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CB85C8.6AF8E140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=E2=80=99d come to Moracco to play at your looping caf=C3=A9 = Mark!
 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the = office.
 
Its=20 hell when yer in and its hell when yer out...

I loved being a=20 professional musician, touring was fabulous, all that sex and drugs, = studio was=20 cool, became a genius at Sonic the Hedgehog, Shooting videos was fun, = cos that=20 was my job, photoshoots.. cool as fuck... all those make-up girls and = screaming=20 queen assistants running about fetching me Latt=C3=A9s (before I knew = what a latt=C3=A9=20 was... ) But then the meetings... MEETINGS?? I hear you ask, yes... = hours and=20 hours of wingeing moaning band meetings, days and days of endless=20 management/record company meetings... pushin, slowly pushing, in that = very=20 annoying kind of... "we love and stand by your thing its great" way for = a hit..=20 or at least a track you could dance to... of hum along too would be just = great=20 guys... in the end theres none of your original band there... its just = meetings=20 and meetings, and getting up late and going to bed late... and pissing = off your=20 girlfriend cos you cant cook anymore, refusing to walk if you can get a = taxi...=20
so then I was out... phew... breath of fresh air.. foreign fresh air = infact... working.. in a job... it was GREAT!!!... playing at a few = cellar bars=20 and art galleries, where a few people still knew me, but I could well.. = I could=20 loop!!! In those days using 5 different delay pedals with hold = functions, no=20 synch.. oh and a vortex... Its was so easy, so simple... do a job for = money...=20 and play what the fucking hell you like!!! Again... after 13 years it = was like a=20 revelation!!!
After another 13 years.. well Im sick of working... = should have=20 gone for SOMETHING within music, as it is I built up a successful = e-learning=20 film company, but now I want out... HATE IT! HATE HATE HATE it... I tell = my MD=20 that people arn't turning up on time and are leaving early, then I = realize that=20 it mainly me... shit...
Now I have a kid, its more difficult to throw = it all=20 in and be skint again.. so Ill stick with the little bugger till he's = 18...=20

Then Im off... wife can come if she wants... if she doesn.. then = too=20 bad... where? any-fucking-where... I might buy a cottage in a village in = Morrocco I like next year.. so.. come my 60th birthday.,. youll find me = there,=20 maybe have little bar, or looping cafe.. any where without TV, without = mobile=20 phone coverage or without fucking Wifi...  and loop to my hearts = content,=20 in the warm evenings, with a beer in my hand, the only light coming from = a=20 faintly bluish glow of the softstep at my = feet...

Mark



On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:16 PM, andy butler = <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=20 wrote:
RKoster@uk.imshealth.com wrote:
Fair enough, but surely being a professional = musician=20 would mean you are in a creative environment consistently rather = than=20 sporadically like us hobbiests, which would suggest that the = creativity is=20 flowing constantly rather than sporadically? =

The=20 artist is desperate to realise the half heard sounds.
The = entertainer is=20 desperate for an audience.
The professional is desperate to be=20 payed.

..and  the hobbyist has no worries.

mix and=20 match


andy



--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter=20 @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
<= A=20 href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no
I=E2=80=99m curious about the clause in their Terms of = Service:
 
Intellectual = Property
All=20 materials (including the organization and presentation of such material) = on this=20 Web site (the =E2=80=9CMaterials=E2=80=9D) are the property of Instant = Song Mastering and its=20 licensors and may be protected by intellectual property laws including = laws=20 relating to copyrights, trade-marks, trade-names, internet domain names, = and=20 other similar rights.
Unless you have entered into a separate = agreement with=20 Instant Song Mastering, such as a Royalty Free License Agreement, any = other use=20 of these Materials without Instant Song Mastering's written permission = is=20 prohibited.
The Materials may only be used and copied for your own,=20 non-commercial, personal or educational purposes, provided that the = Materials=20 are not modified and that copyright and other intellectual property = notices are=20 not deleted. You may not create derivative works from or otherwise = exploit the=20 Materials in any way.
</free use quote>
 
From: Jeff Duke
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: OT:Intsant Song Mastering
 
Yes=20 Andre, please report back on your findings!

J

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM, "Andr=C3=A9 Donawa" = <andre@andredonawa.com>=20 wrote:
> This looks really interesting.
> Going to try it = later=20 today.
> http://www.instantsongmastering.com/


Looki= ng=20 forward to hear about your findings! Do you think this service
is = an=20 automatic server side process? I guess it has to be, for = cost
efficiency.=20 Knowing how delicate the audio mastering process is, I'm
wondering = if this=20 service offers a number of "mastering templates" to
chose from? = That could=20 work fine if your mix is good. But if your mix
is less good, can = the online=20 service offer you information on what
frequency bands that cause = problems=20 for mastering? I mean, so you can
go re-do the mix and come back = with a=20 better mix to master.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music=20 hub
 
 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CB85C8.6AF8E140-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 20:01:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28B403BF59; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: A footnote on Peter Leinhos and Fripp Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-245349678 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <338925901.1086200.1289935598054.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:01:18 -0800 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: <79063EED-94C3-4DC1-BF2F-B3F4C253E0C1@trufun.com> References: <338925901.1086200.1289935598054.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:01:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8-245349678 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I would gladly chip in for a t-shirt for Peter L. Can you ask Greg to = estimate Peter's shirt size? On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:26 AM, loopbozo@comcast.net wrote: > So I followed the instructions in the email from Peter Leinhos = concerning tech help in his absence and contacted Greg Bouffard in the = "Telecom Godz" department of Farmers Insurance in LA to fill him in on = the ongoing amusement we have at Peter's expense. Yes Peter is out of = the office, but Greg feels confident that he would want a t-shirt. Greg = however cannot address the continuing email situation (help desk) and = did not seem to know if Peter was a "looper" , clandestine or otherwise. = I think given the chain of command,Greg could use a t-shirt also, I'll = forward the t-shirt email w/photo to Peter.... I'm sure I have his = address here somewhere. FYI - 20 years before Fripp wrote about it, = Glenn Gould had some very insightful things to say about the nature of = professional performance as a lifestyle. "The Glenn Gould Reader" has = some interesting sections that address this matter. >=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --Apple-Mail-8-245349678 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii loopbozo@comcast.net = wrote:


david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth = and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA = 94610-2730




= --Apple-Mail-8-245349678-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 20:07:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E6BC3BF57; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10-245719642 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:07:28 -0800 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: <2253749A-740F-4038-968D-C2748E75ED96@trufun.com> References: <8CD53BB84827C9C-1BC-D88F@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8D79@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <083BC293-57ED-4AA4-8D6F-0BD6ED1C2C45@frontier.com> <214D6685-DD59-49A0-A288-17CB5D7C85B7@btinternet.com> <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E8E5D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> <4CE2CA72.9030909@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:07:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10-245719642 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Great rant, Mark! I am fortunate to have never been in the music business that way. I = watched it from my position as a magazine writer in the 70s and '80s, = and I saw lots and lots of great music fall between the cracks. Your = life's work comes out the same week as a Madonna release? Tough luck, = kid; the sales department has its priorities. I have been earning my living producing a radio show since 1987 or so. I = am having a great year playing music, and I've made a few thousand = selling CDs and music online, too. Most importantly, I have complete = control over what I do and I have enough gigs (and growth) to feel good = about my career. I am too old and too weird to ever be a pop star, and = that is just fine with me. On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:41 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I loved being a professional musician, touring was fabulous, all that = sex and drugs, studio was cool, became a genius at Sonic the Hedgehog, = Shooting videos was fun, cos that was my job, photoshoots.. cool as = fuck... all those make-up girls and screaming queen assistants running = about fetching me Latt=E9s (before I knew what a latt=E9 was... ) But = then the meetings... MEETINGS?? I hear you ask, yes... hours and hours = of wingeing moaning band meetings, days and days of endless = management/record company meetings... pushin, slowly pushing, in that = very annoying kind of... "we love and stand by your thing its great" way = for a hit.. or at least a track you could dance to... of hum along too = would be just great guys... in the end theres none of your original band = there... its just meetings and meetings, and getting up late and going = to bed late... and pissing off your girlfriend cos you cant cook = anymore, refusing to walk if you can get a taxi...=20 > so then I was out... phew... breath of fresh air.. foreign fresh air = infact... working.. in a job... it was GREAT!!!... playing at a few = cellar bars and art galleries, where a few people still knew me, but I = could well.. I could loop!!! In those days using 5 different delay = pedals with hold functions, no synch.. oh and a vortex... Its was so = easy, so simple... do a job for money... and play what the fucking hell = you like!!! Again... after 13 years it was like a revelation!!! > After another 13 years.. well Im sick of working... should have gone = for SOMETHING within music, as it is I built up a successful e-learning = film company, but now I want out... HATE IT! HATE HATE HATE it... I tell = my MD that people arn't turning up on time and are leaving early, then I = realize that it mainly me... shit... David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --Apple-Mail-10-245719642 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
I loved being = a professional musician, touring was fabulous, all that sex and drugs, = studio was cool, became a genius at Sonic the Hedgehog, Shooting videos = was fun, cos that was my job, photoshoots.. cool as fuck... all those = make-up girls and screaming queen assistants running about fetching me = Latt=E9s (before I knew what a latt=E9 was... ) But then the meetings... = MEETINGS?? I hear you ask, yes... hours and hours of wingeing moaning = band meetings, days and days of endless management/record company = meetings... pushin, slowly pushing, in that very annoying kind of... "we = love and stand by your thing its great" way for a hit.. or at least a = track you could dance to... of hum along too would be just great guys... = in the end theres none of your original band there... its just meetings = and meetings, and getting up late and going to bed late... and pissing = off your girlfriend cos you cant cook anymore, refusing to walk if you = can get a taxi... 
so= then I was out... phew... breath of fresh air.. foreign fresh air = infact... working.. in a job... it was GREAT!!!... playing at a few = cellar bars and art galleries, where a few people still knew me, but I = could well.. I could loop!!! In those days using 5 different delay = pedals with hold functions, no synch.. oh and a vortex... Its was so = easy, so simple... do a job for money... and play what the fucking hell = you like!!! Again... after 13 years it was like a revelation!!!
After = another 13 years.. well Im sick of working... should have gone for = SOMETHING within music, as it is I built up a successful e-learning film = company, but now I want out... HATE IT! HATE HATE HATE it... I tell my = MD that people arn't turning up on time and are leaving early, then I = realize that it mainly me... = shit...

Truth = and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA = 94610-2730




= --Apple-Mail-10-245719642-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 21:03:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FDBD3BED0; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 720 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:03:26 UTC X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB85D0.08388CB2" Subject: Re: A footnote on Peter Leinhos and Fripp Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:51:24 -0700 Message-ID: <5BF53AE74B45EC419571294BDA5C898301E7BA80@ex2mainsvr.coa.cabq.lcl> In-Reply-To: <20101116200730.6737E3BF67@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: A footnote on Peter Leinhos and Fripp Thread-Index: AcuFyeh82daC6DaWRzaci5YIkyhuEQABVy3g References: <20101116200730.6737E3BF67@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "Fink, Jason E." To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2010 20:51:24.0721 (UTC) FILETIME=[082F7210:01CB85D0] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-10.0.0.1412-6.500.1024-17770.005 X-TM-AS-Result: No--26.574600-8.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:03:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85D0.08388CB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can attest to Peter being a bona fide looper, he ordered a Looper Shirt from me way back when we did the LD shirt project.=20 I don't remember his size though... =20 -jas Albuquerque =20 =20 =20 > I would gladly chip in for a t-shirt for Peter L. Can you ask Greg to estimate Peter's shirt size? =20 =20 =20 =20 From: Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com [mailto:Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:08 PM To: Loopers-Delight-d@loopers-delight.com Subject: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V10 #866 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85D0.08388CB2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I can attest to Peter = being a bona fide looper,  he ordered a Looper Shirt from me way back when = we did the LD shirt project.

 I don't = remember his size though...

 

-jas

Albuquerque

 

 

 

> I would = gladly chip in for a t-shirt for Peter L. Can you ask Greg to estimate Peter's shirt = size?

 

 

 

 

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------_=_NextPart_001_01CB85D0.08388CB2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 21:24:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 466053BEF4; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lys+7HkkNcZR3TgCbkdFqE8nWfqQQ5DZuD8+CqQZnjc=; b=vRRn0ONMPDtdoINPia6S+pdlvZ+lvR3He6jSYc9m8FS1W2zA3BB2N/THen3KJ2bp8g a4pdtBtvNNGcgjXrA1hU/SKQeL9groB1FC6RFiXQS1GO+qecdqvInzpXdqvY4fmmfXdJ zs3OBl+yYPM3JohhF/EP2CWnjXp80cZ11Z+Ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KM+diNXz8u0YtgsP/51zi8yNY4XPdDaWQx7wQLm0eNY+SoCztT7ZK+7eN7SeyP3GOD N0iq8JGr4ErNfTVv//L6nhJJOwqPsWK3HrW9G4LDwBRSug5fWnr3OHqCDM0NAJZlyLlf 7WYIkWVJ/wAwm3jpukChipJNmbNQHbjQDB0js= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:24:42 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boss DR880? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:24:45 +0000 (UTC) On the subject of the DR880, does it have a drumroll button? I've often thought of upgrading my rig to that machine, because having 20 pads instead of 16 would be swell. However, I can't do what I do without a drumroll button. Matt On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > Do any of you boys and girls use the Boss DR880 in your loopage? And, if so, > how are you using it? > > This inquiring mind wants to know and would appreciate any feedback pro or > con. > > Thank you, > > Jeff > > -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 21:37:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14FC73BF02; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ln7nWz7e/V0lXNLDUcqsYiYl1W7l0a8eS7k4gwsaOvE=; b=gVF0t6jUn/kZdc/xim8Q2GHLw7ltoVtpFQqZkGay5clOnV13IqQNRo/MPvJY+Y1Q+S FGKysreNXQTZOG1Mp8gwPL/ysdWjVkvvH6jFgmURxoTFtU4LbzVEHVn5OWvjpBQrSMps TLKIQBj9pLgEM92U6QExmh/8FmyCmEuwNKUAc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VtONfh5W8SbBwzb8m6M6EH4wwuou2xPXHmqjM4/y4VbyVCqxgLziHevplhwMTHz21M ngIjVBqa/iij4/vzYqXKGXKyMUYFQoWnM0K9qSMiOjmL+cUCVbucliJdVEGO7wmySRKb 9B+AwyrbdmygXFwLRZhlomoKlQkZO7TW2NGKg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:37:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Midi question for live setup From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:37:08 +0000 (UTC) I'd get myself one of those: http://highlyliquid.com/midi-controllers/midi-cpu/ Solder a switch, some midi in out plugs and a 9v battery plug. Put it in a box and program through sysex. A nice little weekend project. Maybe it's overkill (or over priced), but you'll have a very small footswitch that does what you need of it. Sylvain On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I want to be able to send the midi note on/off message for the note E1. This > will allow me to mute and unmute my instrument mic on channel 1 of my mixer. > Anybody know of a really efficient way to accomplish this in a live setup? A > single programmable footswitch that can do midi notes with a midi out jack > would have the smallest footprint. For my M9 - Rang 3 setup I don't need any > other functions other than to send the note E1 to be able to mute/mute my > mic that goes directly into the mixer. I'm using my rme fireface as the > mixer but in standalone mode so its not hooked up to a computer. 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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:58:22 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:58:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10-252373611 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Being a professional musician often doesn't give you a lot of time for music but many opportunities to email and travel. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 16 Nov 2010, at 16:52, wrote: > Fair enough, but surely being a professional musician would mean > you are in a creative environment consistently rather than > sporadically like us hobbiests, which would suggest that the > creativity is flowing constantly rather than sporadically? Also you > would possibly be able to grow as a musician to be able to push the > boundaries further than if you were doing the music thing in your > spare time. > > Interesting take on things though. > From: Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com] > Sent: 16 November 2010 16:47 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. > > Matt, that is my way of thinking, exactly! > > 2010/11/16 Matt Stevens > Professional musicians often have less time to be truly creative - > if you fund your life other ways you are free to express yourself > musically any way you like. > > Matt Stevens (accidental professional musician) > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 16 Nov 2010, at 16:29, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > > > Peter has really defined the essence of looping with this > > in the office-out of the office-in the office-out of the office... > etc etc -routine! > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert > Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must > lead." -Charles Bukowski- > > > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert > Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must > lead." -Charles Bukowski- > --Apple-Mail-10-252373611 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Being a professional musician often doesn't give you a lot of time for = music but many opportunities to email and travel.


On 16 Nov 2010, = at 16:52, <RKoster@uk.imshealth.com> = wrote:

Fair enough, but surely being a = professional musician would mean you are in a creative environment = consistently rather than sporadically like us hobbiests, which would = suggest that the creativity is flowing constantly rather than = sporadically? Also you would possibly be able to grow as a musician to = be able to push the boundaries further than if you were doing the music = thing in your spare time.
Interesting take on things = though. 
 Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com] 
Sent: 16 November 2010 = 16:47
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Re: Leinhos, Peter is out = of the office.
Matt, that is my way of thinking, = exactly!

2010/11/16 Matt Stevens = <
Professional musicians = often have less time to be truly creative - if you fund your life other = ways you are free to express yourself musically any way you = like.

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= --Apple-Mail-10-252373611-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 22:19:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B83C3BEBE; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=K8JAeamuUEngt2UCDta9XAy3+AS/h7xL610QaWEaPs8=; b=fdpoGxzB3kc8eBxZCXf/HEUbU2RFFl2M47+qLRja7Yu5Mo/PErwDcC4Kp/iHJoQzWS dExvZTGsWAbzaHRZn2ntWcZKrUDMFld9zYuqMm0ugLGFMkmB+vX7Ble0geRHwGeWabYw 4oVMvTy8fmPdIK3bFHM6lepVZ06gDUFHkGrfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=RMDNo/stDRDYiVVPFSu8YdjnPE4lmkylGQv+DuZRiwnoE5W0Ozj4GJBpmKElh1fZBX EWBVOIRff7V/qQfuUE6i2q/anpzmqPkZaxPkZwWnB6dO+HC2vsgAFsxKDjrJCPOXasbc pcU2bn3CriwBT00AIQnwhMjMpGPiGRlYq6CFs= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: Midi question for live setup From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:19:21 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Slyvain! I just started working a 2nd job at an electronics store = this year so this is right up my alley for a fun weekend project. On Nov 16, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > I'd get myself one of those: = http://highlyliquid.com/midi-controllers/midi-cpu/ >=20 > Solder a switch, some midi in out plugs and a 9v battery plug. Put it > in a box and program through sysex. A nice little weekend project. >=20 > Maybe it's overkill (or over priced), but you'll have a very small > footswitch that does what you need of it. >=20 > Sylvain >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Todd Matthews = wrote: >> I want to be able to send the midi note on/off message for the note = E1. This >> will allow me to mute and unmute my instrument mic on channel 1 of my = mixer. >> Anybody know of a really efficient way to accomplish this in a live = setup? A >> single programmable footswitch that can do midi notes with a midi out = jack >> would have the smallest footprint. For my M9 - Rang 3 setup I don't = need any >> other functions other than to send the note E1 to be able to = mute/mute my >> mic that goes directly into the mixer. I'm using my rme fireface as = the >> mixer but in standalone mode so its not hooked up to a computer. It = can be >> controlled by midi in mackie emulation mode. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 16 23:39:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABA2A3BE98; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RAv0uQQNuZfFMnpgLsDOX52AmUkwsUpZuhsRQJhiW/c=; b=xi7rEq+EqAcv2SRSeZCTsfTp+BhQvllrv1QZKMogJc7ujuwRW+glQrFcterbogHq1E t4Q3jxzmIvZL/1fbONlvVIRtW71Nm2Uf9qwrTYaRLNLB5Qbb1p1G69xMyketbYNJOOx+ 9lSMDHUkAYH6St4qYpSJ3nFLHytALIrpfgXS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bKi2e3GXX9fAtgw8dCzFs1m5GZDezIXc0+rqIpETpyi0LjrvxeYb3a0EwKIHigDUxN NaDQS3vf897/n9cuv7cpGk1jffeCq0C1buoJrlx+RKT9NSl2ZJDvF57KyxXAp0eu92cy ruyPtbrHrtanWRg8Sv2Jh0iLBU1L2ojZiayFQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:39:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boss DR880? From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367b62ece08b66049534121d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:39:56 +0000 (UTC) --0016367b62ece08b66049534121d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There is not a drumroll button. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > On the subject of the DR880, does it have a drumroll button? > > I've often thought of upgrading my rig to that machine, because having > 20 pads instead of 16 would be swell. However, I can't do what I do > without a drumroll button. > > Matt > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jeff Shirkey > wrote: > > Do any of you boys and girls use the Boss DR880 in your loopage? And, if > so, > > how are you using it? > > > > This inquiring mind wants to know and would appreciate any feedback pro > or > > con. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > --0016367b62ece08b66049534121d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is not a drumroll button. =A0

On Tu= e, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:=
On the subject of the DR880, does it have a drumroll button?

I've often thought of upgrading my rig to that machine, because having<= br> 20 pads instead of 16 would be swell. However, I can't do what I do
without a drumroll button.

Matt

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:
> Do any of you boys and girls u= se the Boss DR880 in your loopage? And, if so,
> how are you using it?
>
> This inquiring mind wants to know and would appreciate any feedback pr= o or
> con.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jeff
>
>



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Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


--0016367b62ece08b66049534121d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 00:03:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B2893BE97; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE31BAB.20703@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:02:51 -0600 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2010 00:03:01.0487 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCCAB7F0:01CB85EA] X-Sender: mnelson@boomerangmusic.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi, The light bulb just went off on this issue of fade outs. The III has an actual Fade function where you set the time for the fade. The III can also fade loops by increasing the decay rate when stacking. > One thing is you can't add overdubs (or stack) while it is fading?! With the 2880 you can add more sound > while it is fading at whatever rate the slider is set at. I believe this is achieved on the 2880 using an increased decay rate - the rate at which earlier parts are attenuated when adding new material. The III can also function this way. > I am most interested in the Free Play style which sounds interesting but then it seems that you have up to 4 > independent MONO loops? 2 stereo loops would have been the way for me. This is how i use the 2880 s 4 tracks > or two stereo pairs. I really must have stereo. The III can play 4 stereo loops simultaneously. > I may be wrong on this, I am not clear on this stereo function of the III. It goes on to say at the end that > if you plug into both R & L input/output jacks this makes it stereo? I don't think this means that it records > stereo loops somehow...? Yes, the III records in true stereo when connected as you say, L and R in & L and R out. -- Mike Nelson Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. ---------- "Some products make you sound better; Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." ---------- 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com Contact for repairs: Lee Hardesty 1516 Victoria Drive Denton, TX 76209 hardesty@mindspring.com 940-382-3253 Billing Address: Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. PO Box 3788 Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 00:07:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 885ED3BE95; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=do4dg2mptps+SeFyd6CWbj/H0WXMlKCztKEq6S31u5o=; b=DjizocnIx0FP8/smFh4zAwHvT/JraTb6TkexFwhfGsI1F4PMx1ZgLSHgIEMOOZa1rg FHaT1GGGRge4VRltmM6P1F35r4WulOce9mHgaxS3FJ+ovSpkiLra2t5/SUNhoWDvf5SM t2tqqRejosDn/4js6nMHd9dhi/vh8DILH142U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lI7g4y8ZCL6MbaYRXqI02qKCPeQB4ks3ryhCrfzvAMOMEg3MLH03sYNoi53rqq9aBH yEvyc6/CScSTrToWdk04hImpsOOp0/mUkbUw8JP44xDyU51T0gnSNzumvHYhz2VL2mb/ PmIFnMNZVFNVsoNtGalxN8w6XuXqh/BdIKKLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 01:07:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Live recordings from Ambient-Art festival From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:07:01 +0000 (UTC) You can listen to recordings of live looping performances of the Ambient-Art festival of last week.Thanks to Harry Triendl for the perfect organisation, very well done! Artists: Premonition Factory, Markus Reuter, AndreMu and Kunst4life. Enjoy :) http://www.kunst4life.net/ambient-art-lounge/session_19.php -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 00:18:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A77D83BE97; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=niKQ9KfHAlyI0EgHv/TxzNigHZXbX4LSfG9bS1nz/xo=; b=V+RSOskzeeXzZJJOfgzFRkPJZGW1AktxqMpBzUwLsHndqkPEC4tOPAWkBHfGkcrvKN 8c+wzJ7YwXmDJ4vNgjfSyacsHxt35mmIUS0ZHVAH1KKbhgJ4gXJxDgJU9c3MIUkpADoz SQtH9hGPfiGT7xGQW1LaoE6kGEsvSO3rrFggQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=g6y3X3qpxd2y85r54gAdoGYrQdfXYRLN5iYNYXkiykbWmH1FmUlTCS1w42xk7GdjCA PmvZUAai9V50pAZlwNDfj5CMNBMjuCMFkZABp1PMIaMvo/kZp+3AA0PyXv+C9AjU8sQc VDgeo1sTa0McdDj23Y7YCDvXg+EMFDKSzFoWg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CE28890.6060604@tiscali.co.uk> <4CE2979A.7090906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 01:18:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rang III loop copy (multiply)question From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646cff80040fa0495349ec2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:18:53 +0000 (UTC) --00163646cff80040fa0495349ec2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 havent tried the EDPs with the sofstep yet, im still scratching the surface and busy enough controlling mobius,besides i rather wait til the Ss is ready for stand alone and start rocking the EDPs! thanx guys Luis On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:50 PM, mark francombe wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:39 PM, andy butler wrote: > >> Better to use Softstep and put them on different channels. >> (then you can program to run in stereo too) >> > > Thats what Im doing Luis-- > > I have one EDP1 scene one EDP2 scene and a few MIX scenes, where I have > BOTH inserts (EDP1 and EDP2) next to each other on the pedal. I also have > one scene where I have 2 commands per pedal, and this will send something to > BOTH. > > The EDPs are set up the same, same Source #, but I have EDP1 on channel 15 > and EDP 2 on channel 16. > > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > --00163646cff80040fa0495349ec2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
havent tried the EDPs with the sofstep yet,=A0im still scratching the = surface and busy enough=A0controlling mobius,besides i rather wait til the = Ss is ready for stand alone and start=A0rocking the EDPs!
thanx guys
Luis

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:50 PM, mark francombe = <mark@markfr= ancombe.com> wrote:


On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:39 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Better to use Softstep and put them on different channels.
(then yo= u can program to run in stereo too)

Thats= what Im doing Luis--

I have one EDP1 scene one EDP2 scene and a fe= w MIX scenes, where I have BOTH inserts (EDP1 and EDP2) next to each other = on the pedal. I also have one scene where I have 2 commands per pedal, and = this will send something to BOTH.

The EDPs are set up the same, same Source #, but I have EDP1 on channel= 15 and EDP 2 on channel 16.

=


--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com=
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no

--00163646cff80040fa0495349ec2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 00:23:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1283B3BEA4; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:23:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O4Oa81lUSglCzCiElmMJkcRHa1p9fm/XGzrCHqJLPDw=; b=CoXCNco+72EujVU1Tfs9Ac2Pqfw6KTJge9HO1BY3f9F4ZL4Bqn/Jn7QS4t4xh1stwR H+OioTAQpZ80VFF/CbpHksJ+tuge8aKmqnWSvw/MW80/n35wS8epDxNVnHiPlyhMRgCt QHuvkS48MqyMjnGDYFBSQMf9tvQNIAiVhA7xs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sbZ6I9fjDLdo8CKuJlEAHqsqQJp7hSY+ZsalxYoE5tygEyLH5nf419+5dlc6WpbZ42 GdDo3LaxJU9ZUleMxILt33RioelVfY7+waSviFexxSS+/s7YYBRhabez9yrU8Kgo5Usr yhAJ5OBqNHi8uYE9Pu/+3rRklsRwatAncxQ2Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CE2DA46.7030905@boomerangmusic.com> References: <4CE2DA46.7030905@boomerangmusic.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 01:23:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rang III loop copy (multiply)question From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a75e149736049534ae64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:23:19 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a75e149736049534ae64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 wow awesome Mike,it can do a lot more than i thought that baby is going to kick ass! thanx for the information very valuable cheers Luis On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Mike wrote: > Hiddy ho, > While the Rang(TM) III doesn't have a multiply function in the sense > of extending a single loop, it can do all the things you mention. > > > On 16-Nov-10 7:07 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> hi rangers: >> the rang 3 is really catching my eye now,is it possible to do a sort of >> multiply? that is copy the contents of >> loop 1 as you are recording and adding content by overdubbing and make >> loop 2 longer than the initial one? >> > > Record a master loop (always loop 3 on the III), then you can record > up to 3 "slave" loops which will be an exact multiple of loop 3. If loop 3 > is 5 seconds long, loops 1, 2 and 4 will be 5, 10, 15, 20 seconds. There are > two Play Style that support this behavior: Serial Sync and Sync. > Serial Sync > Loop 3 can play with loops 1, 2 or 4, but loops 1, 2 and 4 cannot > play with each other. Instead they play one after the other while loop 3 > plays continuously. This is designed for playing loops that are pieces of a > song (verse, chorus, bridge...) with a rhythmic backing. > Sync > All 4 loops can play at the same time and are synced. > > > can you define the length of loop 2 (for example loop 1 is in 4/4 and loop >> 2 is in 3/4 or is it quantized and >> dependent on the master loop? this si soemthing essential in songwritting >> and something most compact loopers lack! >> > > Since we employ no click prior to recording you are free, to some > extent, to mix time signatures. > Ex. 1 - Master loop 3 is 1 measure of 3/4. Loop 2 could be 3 measures of > 4/4 and loop 1 is 3 measures of 5/4. > Ex. 2 - Master loop 3 is 1 measure of 2/4. Loop 2 could be 4 measures of > 3/4 and loop 1 is 1 measure of 4/4. > > > Using the Free Play Style you can create literally any combination > of time signatures. For example, loop 1 is 6 measures of 4/4, loop 2 is 13 > measures of 3/4, loop 3 is 1 measure of 5/4, etc., etc. > > There's another way to remove the fur from this feline using the > Copy function. For example, record loop 2 and play it. Use Copy to direct > the III's output to an empty loop, say loop 4. Tapping loop 4's button > starts and stops recording, so you can make a new loop that has the content > of loop 2 repeated as many times as you wish. And you can play your > instrument to add new content at the same time if you like. > > > While a little off topic, I can do the following with the Rang(TM) > III. Record master loop 3; stack another part on loop 3; record loop 1 so > it's twice as long as 3; record loop 2 so it's three times as long as loop > 3. Play this creation and record the whole thing to loop 4 making it, for > example, 4 times as long as loop 2. Then erase loops 1, 2 and 3 and create > additional loops to play along with loop 4. > > > -- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > Boomerang(R) Phrase Samplers makes you play better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-421-2762, Outside USA * 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Contact for repairs: > Lee Hardesty > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > hardesty@mindspring.com > 940-382-3253 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > > --001636c5a75e149736049534ae64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
wow awesome Mike,it can do a lot more than i thought that baby is goin= g to kick ass!
thanx for the information very valuable
cheers
Luis

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Mike <mnelson@boomeran= gmusic.com> wrote:
Hiddy ho,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Whil= e the Rang(TM) III doesn't have a multiply function in the sense of ext= ending a single loop, it can do all the things you mention.=20


On 16-Nov-10 7:07 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:
hi rangers:
the rang 3 is rea= lly catching my eye now,is it possible to do a sort of multiply? that is co= py the contents of
loop 1 as you are recording and adding content by overdubbing and make loop= 2 longer than the initial one?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Re= cord a master loop (always loop 3 on the III), then you can record up to 3 = "slave" loops which will be an exact multiple of loop 3. If loop = 3 is 5 seconds long, loops 1, 2 and 4 will be 5, 10, 15, 20 seconds. There = are two Play Style that support this behavior: Serial Sync and Sync.
=A0 =A0Serial Sync
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Loop 3 can play with loops 1, 2 or 4, = but loops 1, 2 and 4 cannot play with each other. Instead they play one aft= er the other while loop 3 plays continuously. This is designed for playing = loops that are pieces of a song (verse, chorus, bridge...) with a rhythmic = backing.
=A0 =A0Sync
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0All 4 loops can play at the same time and are= synced.=20


can you define the length of loo= p 2 (for example loop 1 is in 4/4 and loop 2 is in 3/4 or is it quantized a= nd
dependent on the master loop? this si soemthing essential in songwritting a= nd something most compact loopers lack!

=A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0Since we employ no click prior to recording you are free, to some ex= tent, to mix time signatures.
Ex. 1 - Master loop 3 is 1 measure of 3/4. Loop 2 could be 3 measures of 4/= 4 and loop 1 is 3 measures of 5/4.
Ex. 2 - Master loop 3 is 1 measure of= 2/4. Loop 2 could be 4 measures of 3/4 and loop 1 is 1 measure of 4/4.


=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Using the Free Play Style you can create literally a= ny combination of time signatures. For example, loop 1 is 6 measures of 4/4= , loop 2 is 13 measures of 3/4, loop 3 is 1 measure of 5/4, etc., etc.
<= br>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0There's another way to remove the fur from this felin= e using the Copy function. For example, record loop 2 and play it. Use Copy= to direct the III's output to an empty loop, say loop 4. Tapping loop = 4's button starts and stops recording, so you can make a new loop that = has the content of loop 2 repeated as many times as you wish. And you can p= lay your instrument to add new content at the same time if you like.


=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0While a little off topic, I can do the following wit= h the Rang(TM) III. Record master loop 3; stack another part on loop 3; rec= ord loop 1 so it's twice as long as 3; record loop 2 so it's three = times as long as loop 3. Play this creation and record the whole thing to l= oop 4 making it, for example, 4 times as long as loop 2. Then erase loops 1= , 2 and 3 and create additional loops to play along with loop 4.


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Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management= , Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

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--001636c5a75e149736049534ae64-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 03:10:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 662973BE8B; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 03:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BtwyMiz5XBY4I3nNQ4XK+yH7/1JX4YLBNmnlNQjUWBk=; b=gQXEy0Orxcm318uAq4Fqh9xPTYLFayd708H5DZODnPAEwrIdjxNSq+k0AxtgrA7eU2 Kb0Q2tnuRq0yE3rHR6o52ljt5SNUE30JrNIms7TqGtDPyk13w7mF2jf2KQ2+6pqSN3VK wnuzVOUw8Ex0xhn7xpB7VFB4DmNQljCDtrVm8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jscdBKON6WKfVWQctDoQ7xg2ZZrKQ5t+9FGSBZHf+zSOr0sJMgrGL9Hon7Ur7zFG4M rxLbQ1F1ccfDiymH+aNcO1/RCtj7jn3zklaSJBMbdPIU1leCLvieZt1gJmaMyF2kVtF0 FWic/Mlw013OAHpipZ/2yEjHv9+o+9tSUvCmY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> References: <4CDEC6D3.5000904@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:10:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 03:10:48 +0000 (UTC) I'll cast a vote for Soundplant39, too.. It is a pretty easy to use tool, and you can load up a file for every key on the computer keyboard. Mind you, I'm turning into a serious bidule fan (I've also looked at Audio Mulch, too...), but Soundplant39 definitely easier to "use" than either. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:11 AM, chrisrover wrote: > Hi everyone, > > maybe this is something of interest for all or someone already has found a > solution. > I am looking for SIMPLE software (Macbook Pro OSX 10.4) > to easily TRIGGER SEVERAL PRERECORDED SAMPLES (PREFERABLY MP3) > from a controller (i.e. Korg Nano Pad) in addtition to my live looping > performance. > Similar to this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2pP4FDZERE > (Ean Golden with Korg Nano Pad and Traktor) > > The available hardware loopers (i.e. JamMan, RC50) are too slow in switching > between several loops. The solution I'm looking for should allow one to > easily compile a playlist of samples (maybe even drag and drop) > and quickly assign them to a device such as the Nano Pad. > Is there an easily solution out there ? > > Thanks in advance for your input ! > > Christian > > www.myspace.com/christianrover > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 09:39:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CBF83BE8D; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=M6vXKyzMzx3Ig7DzqqVtundTD+aLazMDz2cOBAajKfQ=; b=k8kumhKNkyl89RChQ4QEDrMtdCHPXJrGigZnmsaLB0d8q32Ecfst9L8jxwmQ6a43fW ncgw5Sxsv4YuhhYjfXJVK0wAelWANTj5xBQ+AL5Hk+E5n2j5uxlXbP1lLjshe/dWX1W/ fcvs0u3SSL/dpp7qkx821FTiZhjWCMkOSW0tA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=dJMzwN5k8MjpUiSWyNECFplFheckPHzK7VbFEXU+SKTNRmFrhygVDiAH+uvMjauzYA Bg4JNgs3zTP8RCoGe06o+DtBoQ0WqdgPYl406ZV10ctASX3Zf4m4V94ckc15Eh28qqUF 6MHbaddJV2Ekh2h5xe+/q6n4/IlNciKstx9G0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <9127B19B-8E21-4DF8-832C-5A8BC766AE41@baymoon.com> <60431322-C201-463F-A484-8CE227CC4B5E@grubmah.com> <8CA503F1-5727-4609-84CA-5A4FF8E9A0BD@grubmah.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:39:53 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750d9289f35a604953c748f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:39:55 +0000 (UTC) --00151750d9289f35a604953c748f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 interesting thread. i personally love sus replace - was using with the lp-1 and now with mobius. sounds great if you further process the loop with synced delays and filters, etc. one trick i did stumble upon with the lp-1, which i also used a lot and which gives a similar vibe is to create an empty loop...scramble it...and THEN overdub audio into it. leave lots of space as you play and you'll hear little slices appearing all over the place in a pleasing random (but not unquantised) fashion. especially good if you can mute the live signal and just hear the loop on it's own sim. On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Nov 14, 2010, at 12:26 PM, mark francombe wrote: > > > JEEZE MARK... Now that is a fucking fantastic wah... what is it? how much > it cost? and where did you get it? do they have any more?, do they ship? how > fast???? > > I need me one of them muthafuckers!!! > > > > .. ah now I got to the replacing.. neato > > Ibanez Weeping Demon. > > Mark > > --00151750d9289f35a604953c748f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable interesting thread. i personally love sus replace - was using with the lp-1= and now with mobius. sounds great if you further process the loop with syn= ced delays and filters, etc. one trick i did stumble upon with the lp-1, wh= ich i also used a lot and which gives a similar vibe is to create an empty = loop...scramble it...and THEN overdub audio into it. leave lots of space as= you play and you'll hear little slices appearing all over the place in= a pleasing random (but not unquantised) fashion. especially good if you ca= n mute the live signal and just hear the loop on it's own

sim.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:51 PM= , Mark Hamburg <ma= rk@grubmah.com> wrote:
On Nov 14, 2010, at 12:26 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> JEEZE MARK... Now that is a fucking fantastic wah... what is it? how m= uch it cost? and where did you get it? do they have any more?, do they ship= ? how fast????
> I need me one of them muthafuckers!!!
>
> .. ah now I got to the replacing.. neato

Ibanez Weeping Demon.

Mark


--00151750d9289f35a604953c748f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 09:47:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35CB33BE8E; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iK/c4VQdOEmLcxZWj0Azrh9TBeKroSMhWN0f9Ol9pKw=; b=QT/9xnitf4HI8PAuQvNuS2TrLPG2zpfn7SMcAOfEN7nqddNRJXOimLxmhSNjJBz6Ak q3IFS1OnCwGFzsOSZlOjRbeoxBUZz9cbhukFWJZsRICr/PWpdUSur6q28BjurV4dAQ17 mxd2JQIJBp/on1NAT7zbKPSu3OqFYze8DOCxo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=D+EtsHkHGSW+XOOkgpI3PmDQzhdESjxvz0OmdpVpC3aC/2veNcQ6koseW67AVBfHlJ ISrP2TOaVwWEDcKs5nIchtJxAtEmgFU7nGM6a/HJ4Me9RRmg+zuNnZM+XL1nqcDfH1Ly MyOpsLG4h+lu2zIWlrzXOX5nvm1VEmONIZyUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <9127B19B-8E21-4DF8-832C-5A8BC766AE41@baymoon.com> <60431322-C201-463F-A484-8CE227CC4B5E@grubmah.com> <8CA503F1-5727-4609-84CA-5A4FF8E9A0BD@grubmah.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:47:17 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175114f20e967c04953c8f18 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:47:18 +0000 (UTC) --0015175114f20e967c04953c8f18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 oh...on the sequencer side of things, i have also been playing around with the sequencer in bidule to manipulate tracks in mobius. one nice thing i discovered after watching lots of steve reich on youtube, is to use the sequencer to slip a track one subcycle every cycle. i'm using this in the context of a pair of identical loops (one is a copy of the other - panned left and right). each time one of the tracks reaches it's end point, it slips one subcycle forward. if 8ths per cycle is set to something like 16, then you get some interesting rhythms going. if it's set to 128, then you get the phase looping that Reich favours with the tracks very gradually slipping out of phase...locking into a tight rhythm for a bit and then slipping out again. sounds great if you record a simple note sequence and then set both tracks to double speed. i have a script that sets all this up for me as i close the initial loop. sim On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > interesting thread. i personally love sus replace - was using with the lp-1 > and now with mobius. sounds great if you further process the loop with > synced delays and filters, etc. one trick i did stumble upon with the lp-1, > which i also used a lot and which gives a similar vibe is to create an empty > loop...scramble it...and THEN overdub audio into it. leave lots of space as > you play and you'll hear little slices appearing all over the place in a > pleasing random (but not unquantised) fashion. especially good if you can > mute the live signal and just hear the loop on it's own > > sim. > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > >> On Nov 14, 2010, at 12:26 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> >> > JEEZE MARK... Now that is a fucking fantastic wah... what is it? how >> much it cost? and where did you get it? do they have any more?, do they >> ship? how fast???? >> > I need me one of them muthafuckers!!! >> > >> > .. ah now I got to the replacing.. neato >> >> Ibanez Weeping Demon. >> >> Mark >> >> > --0015175114f20e967c04953c8f18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh...on the sequencer side of things, i have also been playing around with = the sequencer in bidule to manipulate tracks in mobius. one nice thing i di= scovered after watching lots of steve reich on youtube, is to use the seque= ncer to slip a track one subcycle every cycle. i'm using this in the co= ntext of a pair of identical loops (one is a copy of the other - panned lef= t and right). each time one of the tracks reaches it's end point, it sl= ips one subcycle forward. if 8ths per cycle is set to something like 16, th= en you get some interesting rhythms going. if it's set to 128, then you= get the phase looping that Reich favours with the tracks very gradually sl= ipping out of phase...locking into a tight rhythm for a bit and then slippi= ng out again. sounds great if you record a simple note sequence and then se= t both tracks to double speed. i have a script that sets all this up for me= as i close the initial loop.

sim

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:39 AM, = Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
interesting thread. i personally love sus replace - was using with the lp-1= and now with mobius. sounds great if you further process the loop with syn= ced delays and filters, etc. one trick i did stumble upon with the lp-1, wh= ich i also used a lot and which gives a similar vibe is to create an empty = loop...scramble it...and THEN overdub audio into it. leave lots of space as= you play and you'll hear little slices appearing all over the place in= a pleasing random (but not unquantised) fashion. especially good if you ca= n mute the live signal and just hear the loop on it's own

sim.


On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com><= /span> wrote:
On Nov 14, 2010, at 12:26 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> JEEZE MARK... Now that is a fucking fantastic wah... what is it? how m= uch it cost? and where did you get it? do they have any more?, do they ship= ? how fast????
> I need me one of them muthafuckers!!!
>
> .. ah now I got to the replacing.. neato

Ibanez Weeping Demon.

Mark



--0015175114f20e967c04953c8f18-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 09:53:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31F2D3BE8C; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mfgyexhNwN7a0lYLf7XwqAQOPDNZzXXUUs3sbHuWWos=; b=jlSVi7C4WMY9U2vm5c+j/dIMEM2IVExhbPZpgWBKD/POys8IQGb9c8BbOSKUHxJph/ SLR3S+rcTCab3CITnWetZ9vzx6IBJuyApkrPraOydZgTaNgdpfHf9sQsLlTRcT/swTzb mCCF2SY10T9NQN5/q3nMH/pBq5vZvLsRpGn5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YNGrRtO34UZ3j2cEyPyG/zAOb5K+bAX0LjuFTQcP9RnDNAIpuE3dfLCR22gsiL9Uhy iXAij1PON5EGDOllTLstWdOJV+vI1DoKpEVUnJc+4DItDdwzFKPbDX0r6kkYCpSRWpYs zDnn6D0abMHiMuk69zDBcpxpFSufYQMFOGhk8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9127B19B-8E21-4DF8-832C-5A8BC766AE41@baymoon.com> <60431322-C201-463F-A484-8CE227CC4B5E@grubmah.com> <8CA503F1-5727-4609-84CA-5A4FF8E9A0BD@grubmah.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:53:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:53:42 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > interesting thread. i personally love sus replace - was using with the lp-1 > and now with mobius. Something I appreciate a lot with Mobius is the "Alternative Feedback" function. I constantly keep a continuous fader assigned to Alternative Feedback so I can sculpture exactly how much of the old layers that will be substituted doing "Substitute stuff". A useful trick is to trigger long patterns of "Substitute command sequences" (as scripts) and while playing audio to be sliced into the loop you manipulate the Alternative Feedback level in a sweeping manner. I've been thinking about putting such sweeps into the scripts as well but refrained because it is fun do "play" and also "looks good" in a performance. There is a constant struggle with the problem that the audience do not understand what you are doing, even though they like the sound that comes out. Especially with loop manipulation techniques that are not to be heard until the loop repeats back again ("cool music - I really liked your backgrounds. Where can I find them on CD?") Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 09:57:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 215133BE8D; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jHdZYvAq0mBF0cFkr7b7Vmq5nZ8b9GPfG3HaBlb44vE=; b=DN0/X10btf6O0uzEkh3DYdbBmb9aCDFmb1XNTfRR1aZknJ/qn4lLI7WfzTeWjEI3on Qd3bWCuXBWPhEkWpWSe3ua6fsl9KF52oVVpsyG5PLdqxhFlL9pZJkGiAlejNLjYBgcNu o1zGggefzosYIvGlKxYxRIu5W0EZv4ERMbaBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wfqVjoTz8Mfe8M4HhntN++gbFla3qOIR1ByMFMGIMNH+PFZ6hVq1VIX+rOPj9btvbo i+2DxA+eLS88Aaq9JQlol4rVX4oJsUBf7tmQJrHDduX3kriXT90XiGZ8FrEFhqYBLB5b plRt61lYX+RJU1Gpf2mRbkMkwZk5pzdXEiFCk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9127B19B-8E21-4DF8-832C-5A8BC766AE41@baymoon.com> <60431322-C201-463F-A484-8CE227CC4B5E@grubmah.com> <8CA503F1-5727-4609-84CA-5A4FF8E9A0BD@grubmah.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:57:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Bill, empty loop, or looperlative/EDP trick (composition?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:57:08 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > one nice thing i discovered after watching lots of steve reich on youtube, > is to use the sequencer to slip a track one subcycle every cycle. i'm using > this in the context of a pair of identical loops (one is a copy of the other > - panned left and right). each time one of the tracks reaches it's end > point, it slips one subcycle forward. if 8ths per cycle is set to something > like 16, then you get some interesting rhythms going. if it's set to 128, > then you get the phase looping that Reich favours with the tracks very > gradually slipping out of phase...locking into a tight rhythm for a bit and > then slipping out again. sounds great if you record a simple note sequence > and then set both tracks to double speed. i have a script that sets all this > up for me as i close the initial loop. > Simeon, that's a very interesting technique. I have to try it out! :-) Now that I have the Gordius floorboard I can set up loads of "banks for fun" to try out stuff that are not yet part of my usual gig setup. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 14:05:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58B143BE8C; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1290002755; bh=u6NAKmN4pDA68kHivsYJnu6XoU0g0sFW92WH7Wg9rKA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=njlBTqfLOLhuU2+vg5alGOkT3DAjJb4FVMWQIQsiNYvQVO9lkUMO2oETsmcwMLyRQCqYZJC7KjrBRfRGrFA5YGAeQuGknpAqJ4FFrdmHLb/z3UM1wEUHS7eAgrQ2sGJETI6PM1cy9f7YhEOkmkeNhGAnwf24Pg6eKQIuS30Clkg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fLWVtE40Pv9tmGxXqws+E90n8DZT4ckFM8UZjKd5ZPPUCcVgr9tNY5MUuxj8qauWS6pcuiN3ZkrWh2EbIbAK+8ln+2XS0Ti7BK8uQTjRnQHNUkP5Bq2As24owZxO+pYKBxg1DHktOyUp4Bkd0VHgTadL6KU36lV9+Uc8I7PD69A=; Message-ID: <905177.82786.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dTpZwikVM1kWz6NQZLS6yXXr.EtqydpfUBFrl3sn2fQizf. 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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-57309428-1290002755=:82786" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:05:57 +0000 (UTC) --0-57309428-1290002755=:82786 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A lot of 'XL''s out there. You guys are either big dudes or FAT! --- On Tue, 11/16/10, David Gans wrote: From: David Gans Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "David Gans" Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 1:45 PM I'd go for one, too.=A0 XL for me. =0A=0A=0A --0-57309428-1290002755=:82786 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A lot of 'XL''s out there. You guys are eithe= r big dudes or FAT!

--- On Tue, 11/16/10, David Gans <david= @trufun.com> wrote:

From: David Gans <david@trufun.com>
Subj= ect: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office.
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Cc: "David Gans" <david@trufun.com>
Date: Tuesday= , November 16, 2010, 1:45 PM



I'd go for one, too.  XL for me.



=0A=0A --0-57309428-1290002755=:82786-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 14:12:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB6813BE84; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=rQwNTRImo25q3GObR3EfPJjkXdGIbPt2KxXLduPxa8g=; b=LeUm6nqQuVL+yahjNHJAgBx92rtcmGyGStEIHA1b06PMNT//9IgflX9x3IMBNSlsAj ieozE0oEAtrT7cxkMS7gBldaMmeD0/4FLtIurnrrwcZ1MKDdkXXpgcYM6NVQ76pSz6rD nvFAYZazjg4IOo+exMUhExf7HFw7XRKwrcHZg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=adkwyrUiLmnQ92Fr939Pox8zYHT+utf0IX0C0IvuX11YDe2d6SzrV/9OJWX4GOVsmZ xt2ooFQBalyM9A+E/S53zZz1430yLCjexXr1HMtmoWUAJlHgguTJLqszEWc7GaP1pZWD K+xWBIh/0UX0Od3kxLJvKAAkUCV4lVExmCQCg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <905177.82786.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <905177.82786.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:11:54 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Yn9ctEEzydr5cw76g1NQapjEZHE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485eba1e89e28290495404217 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:12:16 +0000 (UTC) --001485eba1e89e28290495404217 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OI! Didnt you know... Fat is the new thin... On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > A lot of 'XL''s out there. You guys are either big dudes or FAT! > > > > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --001485eba1e89e28290495404217 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 OI! Didnt you know... Fat is the new thin...

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
A lot of 'XL''s out there. You guys are either big dudes or FAT!








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www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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http://www.looop.no
--001485eba1e89e28290495404217-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 14:15:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B0733BE8B; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-AuditID: a22c23ca-b7bd7ae000007c92-bb-4ce3f129210b Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB8661.D3610015" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:15:01 -0000 Message-ID: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F6E948D@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Thread-Index: AcuGYXEtEYD9qTs7SQmy7RyP7HfhlQAAFE2w References: <905177.82786.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2010 14:15:02.0899 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3872430:01CB8661] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Resent-Message-ID: <5Ga_lD.A.R_E.oN-4MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:15:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB8661.D3610015 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And Cakes are the new Celery sticks. ________________________________ From: markfrancombe@gmail.com [mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com] On Behalf Of mark francombe Sent: 17 November 2010 14:12 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. =20 OI! Didnt you know... Fat is the new thin... On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Paul Richards wrote: A lot of 'XL''s out there. You guys are either big dudes or FAT! =20 --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB8661.D3610015 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

And Cakes are the new Celery = sticks.

From: markfrancombe@gmail.com [mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com] On Behalf Of mark francombe
Sent: 17 November 2010 = 14:12
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Leinhos, = Peter is out of the office.

 

OI! Didnt you = know... Fat is the new thin...




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no

------_=_NextPart_001_01CB8661.D3610015-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 14:25:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABFBE3BE8C; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'LD'" References: Subject: RE: Live recordings from Ambient-Art festival Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:25:08 +0100 Message-ID: <76AAF8E6F7B44FBD81516298CCD8C749@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcuGHWcd0pcv5bfXTve0Y4OmV5coZwARbVxA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.4.98; VDF: 7.10.14.29) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:25:16 +0000 (UTC) I love your track Sjaak !! -Michael > You can listen to recordings of live looping performances of the > Ambient-Art festival of last week.Thanks to Harry Triendl for the > perfect organisation, very well done! > Artists: Premonition Factory, Markus Reuter, AndreMu and > Kunst4life. Enjoy :) > http://www.kunst4life.net/ambient-art-lounge/session_19.php From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 14:56:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5D843BE8F; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <905177.82786.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <905177.82786.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:55:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB8667.8BF8C140" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:56:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB8667.8BF8C140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ?Or if he has a girlfriend he can let HER sleep in it. From: Paul Richards=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:05 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. A lot of 'XL''s out there. You guys are either big dudes or FAT! --- On Tue, 11/16/10, David Gans wrote: From: David Gans Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "David Gans" Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 1:45 PM I'd go for one, too. XL for me. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB8667.8BF8C140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Or if he has a girlfriend he can let HER sleep in it.
 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the = office.
 
A lot of 'XL''s out there. You guys are either big = dudes or=20 FAT!

--- On Tue, 11/16/10, David Gans=20 <david@trufun.com> wrote:

From:=20 David Gans <david@trufun.com>
Subject: Re: Leinhos, = Peter is=20 out of the office.
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc:=20 "David Gans" <david@trufun.com>
Date: Tuesday, November = 16,=20 2010, 1:45 PM



I'd go for one, too.  XL for = = me.




------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB8667.8BF8C140-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 17:52:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0F523BE8E; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7bRpiqEomBNZYy6y+gUhP8W9TT51BcFJUh3kXkXqoXU=; b=En6xlieCjbY/d84sTBH1zeCPfOh6SP49FSerfcWJ4S0D/hPJDYugygqxzgt5PyVM67 YWz2PQFIG+XSs8MnGo+7IZi0GB/hdWj/fXgvuuSi1sanbcxCgNzvpF07x4mk0zYvn82r t6esUa7Qo/aDTy4MXvqZftPcY9ysFQYgXKXm8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=H/lgxibAAqOUmJV2c22fne/V1YtiTzocp9E2uuCn4mfXi3dtnagvRHM2GxnOCxfDFL TVlg3uEFB1F77sregxbCbfhbQ1Ampn1IjrrXBEZNBHbkifq2XE8jWgNIxEdm3ZuHa3S7 AygYI/bk4t9UCUaTPUCaj16Q5skVOabNX7NaY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <76AAF8E6F7B44FBD81516298CCD8C749@mpeserver> References: <76AAF8E6F7B44FBD81516298CCD8C749@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:52:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live recordings from Ambient-Art festival From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5c088d1f28e0495435733 Resent-Message-ID: <3fXL3C.A.PPC.6ZB5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:52:58 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5c088d1f28e0495435733 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 great stuff Sjaak as always! cheers Luis On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > I love your track Sjaak !! -Michael > > > You can listen to recordings of live looping performances of the > > Ambient-Art festival of last week.Thanks to Harry Triendl for the > > perfect organisation, very well done! > > Artists: Premonition Factory, Markus Reuter, AndreMu and > > Kunst4life. Enjoy :) > > http://www.kunst4life.net/ambient-art-lounge/session_19.php > > --001636c5c088d1f28e0495435733 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great stuff Sjaak as always!
cheers
Luis

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Michael Peters <= ;mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
I love your track Sjaak !! =A0-Michael

> You can listen to recordings of live looping performances of the
> Ambient-Art festival of last week.Thanks to Harry Triendl for the
> perfect organisation, very well done!
> Artists: Premonition Factory, Markus Reuter, AndreMu and
> Kunst4life. Enjoy :)
> http://www.kunst4life.net/ambient-art-lounge/session_19= .php


--001636c5c088d1f28e0495435733-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 17 18:56:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D71C53BE92; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bbQ8g4l8QQBN2Dg7djRPb5XAK8XC/LCsm2IkfPhC7aM=; b=KagCoaJdoSlsXY+wzhZ+HLm5PqArKDqiNCUxuhSP9BXfp4CoybLIXnmVa7ugYyGd0D ylxFcAxiEeJN17MYSW+OiyVTGGE9m0SavFegzn5NNJvz8hFR5x4S2SBjxvaqB+YSfoVY NHE902o3WHHb6qGffH/mOOuvOlQxk/XouWcdY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Tks/ps6/JtoU+r4Mt7tD/x3Vaj58blhGn0wENJg/x6t9MWidozdiTMwjJpuwiXIvAl BN1xGjGWX7aba9pNUAV8tydrX/7uBMuAk8kaNExVcR1jQfhwKdrHoAhCma8ql5lv/xFZ POOaXbfx7yQPpQ0V+nRevBiTju8tju8bBVggE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <76AAF8E6F7B44FBD81516298CCD8C749@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:56:37 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live recordings from Ambient-Art festival From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e9329cbefc0495443b06 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:56:39 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7e9329cbefc0495443b06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Track 1 & Track 4. Very interesting! On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > great stuff Sjaak as always! > cheers > Luis > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > >> I love your track Sjaak !! -Michael >> >> > You can listen to recordings of live looping performances of the >> > Ambient-Art festival of last week.Thanks to Harry Triendl for the >> > perfect organisation, very well done! >> > Artists: Premonition Factory, Markus Reuter, AndreMu and >> > Kunst4life. Enjoy :) >> > http://www.kunst4life.net/ambient-art-lounge/session_19.php >> >> > --0016e6d7e9329cbefc0495443b06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Track 1 & Track 4. Very interesting!

= On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>= wrote:
great stuff Sjaak= as always!
cheers
Luis


On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> = wrote:
I love your track Sjaak !! =A0-Michael

> You can listen to recordings of live looping performances of the
> Ambient-Art festival of last week.Thanks to Harry Triendl for the
> perfect organisation, very well done!
> Artists: Premonition Factory, Markus Reuter, AndreMu and
> Kunst4life. Enjoy :)
> http://www.kunst4life.net/ambient-art-lounge/session_19= .php



--0016e6d7e9329cbefc0495443b06-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 00:41:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0148F3BE97; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eshjzLPsT1X12/xo27WJsn7XxFW+cveD1AVSjvNY+Fc=; b=lxqlUKERI24OOvwxQg/jc0MJN7kzUMIqV6kK2XrMryUAV/tNiNO59bRVHrX2k9O+6x uDbRJgoRwMBA9bMKAsPLhDNsmyazZ+v/zBEkev2IP5BhDviTNu7Y81yzgNEKKQ9kDw9Y 9S+RjEQbU/bBA8SMFi/f4dPVLcfV1ZJEUcetw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hvCAxGYV45aU8eBqgBkOCRsgX8ZC5ynkLfGIR7y+1UH8WtwhGP5YaFCHlJru6Xl69m p3Gd8//FxZYd4EXXy6IIeGjvRJXQgocDwkLjGl67RXDwvOS9Af5omxgOq108wi9Nt3sp z/lkhtJZQedVBV5gw5esguqZNcMHPK55dUis8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <76AAF8E6F7B44FBD81516298CCD8C749@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 01:41:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live recordings from Ambient-Art festival From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Thanks! Some background info: this was the intro of a live improv drone piece i played on the 2nd night. But you should have seen Markus Reuters his set. Although less accessible than my stuff, he was absolutely amazing, almost sounded like an army of jet fighters landing in Innsbruck ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 01:51:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33EC73BEA0; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 01:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6CrOsbkSBFWDojw4hKV6hTYIdaFmsQhB4RArI6Vbuuc=; b=UFAsHNsXk38UMs2/8NVk6UHpEiLzVaiUqzkvZRZXMUJ7Q0u/89fOKOJ4n5RfFtE3lv T8TOFqBkHr5ZM4vbvTH3TxQSw2BAeAFMQJJz3nB9njFx9S3/4ALVFeHiO30AkuiE4w+s fyoChMSZRhu1gu9no8EYpBX/xjXBwTCxPe/YQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TS2c/mJHKYfrfUeFT/UzCv8lVDce0iaMN4OXd0khBPZ8lPqV7WzzsCRr4Zas/cLS9R DRfod6mWwDhHo3yj/L0PcwuAKyMC65ILhgVICT9ASdaZjn4ytPoEcQZPXAIDFWUtvsSF 3IfbB6yDexOiWXEhbYfc5ukVq8dMK6xx16pfU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:51:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boss DR880? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 01:51:11 +0000 (UTC) awww.... > ^|>^m was like: > There is not a drumroll button. > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010, I was all >> >> On the subject of the DR880, does it have a drumroll button? >> >> I've often thought of upgrading my rig to that machine, because having >> 20 pads instead of 16 would be swell. However, I can't do what I do >> without a drumroll button. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 03:58:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E3913BE99; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 03:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 521 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 03:58:05 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: what I do on a PC? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:49:23 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 03:58:05 +0000 (UTC) I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a PC. Sigh.... Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and MidiPipe is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius. My main question... What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts to open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? tanks, Z From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 04:37:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B802B3BE93; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1831 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:37:01 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.9 X-EN-IMPSID: YU6J1f0010BkWne0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:06:22 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? In-Reply-To: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20101118043701.626533BE8B@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Ouch... I don't use this myself, but I've seen it recommended often: http://www.autohotkey.com/ http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/Tutorial.htm Maybe combined with Bome's MIDI translator: http://www.bome.com/products/miditranslator They write that it can be used to control Ableton: http://www.bome.com/products/miditranslator/support/usageexamples At 2010.11.17 07:49 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: >I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a >PC. Sigh.... > >Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and >MidiPipe is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius. > >My main question... > >What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts >to open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? > >tanks, Z From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 04:48:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 869E53BE91; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2161 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:48:46 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VJFCM/lXBEzNN056RnOCcwMvB0aQCfSf/vLbxCHknOx/mGLFfP5bE3iDG6gFJT9V; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <22656560.1290053565543.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:12:45 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd489cdb0527747fd3a6ad31bda4ce502853350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.34 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:48:46 +0000 (UTC) man i've heard of lousy contract riders for shows but that is kind of ridiculous isnt it? -----Original Message----- >From: Zoe Keating >Sent: Nov 17, 2010 7:49 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: what I do on a PC? > >I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a >PC. Sigh.... > >Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and >MidiPipe is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius. > >My main question... > >What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts >to open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? > >tanks, Z > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 05:19:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 513E33BE91; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <9F1E4DF1-874E-4882-94BE-3B05D3380572@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: stanitarium@earthlink.net In-Reply-To: <22656560.1290053565543.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:19:18 -0800 References: <22656560.1290053565543.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Yes...tech company of course. Guess its not kosher for me to have my MBP onstage. On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:12 PM, stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: > man i've heard of lousy contract riders for shows but that is kind > of ridiculous isnt it? > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Zoe Keating >> Sent: Nov 17, 2010 7:49 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: what I do on a PC? >> >> I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I >> use a >> PC. Sigh.... >> >> Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and >> MidiPipe is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius. >> >> My main question... >> >> What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple >> Scripts >> to open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? >> >> tanks, Z >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 05:44:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4960A3BE8D; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <22656560.1290053565543.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <9F1E4DF1-874E-4882-94BE-3B05D3380572@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <9F1E4DF1-874E-4882-94BE-3B05D3380572@zoekeating.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: stanitarium@earthlink.net From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:44:02 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:44:07 +0000 (UTC) > On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > Yes...tech company of course. Guess its not kosher for me to have my > MBP onstage. I love this an old promo video produced by Microsoft to advertise their Songsmith product. Check out the girl's laptop. Maybe all you need is some stickers? :) Or a skin: http://www.istyles.com/apocalypse-macbook-skin-p-13764.html I'm not aware of anything like Apple Script that could be used for Ableton. Some products support VBScript but I think they have to be designed for it and I'm pretty sure Ableton isn't. I know some people = have used the Bome MIDI translator to convert MIDI into keyboard shortcuts = for Ableton. If you do decide to use Mobius I've been rewriting the manuals, they aren't done yet but I'll send you the links. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 05:45:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8DBD3BE8E; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1011170310 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-11-18_03:2010-11-18,2010-11-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Message-id: <8EC6CB237C834507B22ABC396E9FD8CD@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <22656560.1290053565543.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <9F1E4DF1-874E-4882-94BE-3B05D3380572@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:45:49 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:45:51 +0000 (UTC) That songsmith vid is the most cringeworthy I've ever seen. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Larson" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:44 PM Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? > On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > Yes...tech company of course. Guess its not kosher for me to have my > MBP onstage. I love this an old promo video produced by Microsoft to advertise their Songsmith product. Check out the girl's laptop. Maybe all you need is some stickers? :) Or a skin: http://www.istyles.com/apocalypse-macbook-skin-p-13764.html I'm not aware of anything like Apple Script that could be used for Ableton. Some products support VBScript but I think they have to be designed for it and I'm pretty sure Ableton isn't. I know some people have used the Bome MIDI translator to convert MIDI into keyboard shortcuts for Ableton. If you do decide to use Mobius I've been rewriting the manuals, they aren't done yet but I'll send you the links. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 05:51:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 333783BE8E; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_440045ff-cd58-4ba5-95b7-522c5d2780b7_" X-Originating-IP: [86.165.3.187] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: what I do on a PC? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:51:20 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2010 05:51:20.0211 (UTC) FILETIME=[9FD0AE30:01CB86E4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:51:21 +0000 (UTC) --_440045ff-cd58-4ba5-95b7-522c5d2780b7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How odd.. Cant you just hide your mac in a rack out of sight and boot up a = pc in full view? =20 Peace =20 G =20 > From: info@zoekeating.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: what I do on a PC? > Date: Wed=2C 17 Nov 2010 19:49:23 -0800 >=20 > I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a=20 > PC. Sigh.... >=20 > Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and=20 > MidiPipe is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius. >=20 > My main question... >=20 > What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts=20 > to open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? >=20 > tanks=2C Z >=20 = --_440045ff-cd58-4ba5-95b7-522c5d2780b7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How odd.. Cant you just hide your mac in =3Ba rack =3Bout of sight = and boot up a =3Bpc in full view?
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= --_440045ff-cd58-4ba5-95b7-522c5d2780b7_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 05:56:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0FF03BE92; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <3A284D89-F231-4FE3-9090-0B43E1697E26@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-28-367480132 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:56:48 -0800 References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:56:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-28-367480132 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That was my suggestion. Apparently not. On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > How odd.. Cant you just hide your mac in a rack out of sight and > boot up a pc in full view? > > Peace > > G --Apple-Mail-28-367480132 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That was my suggestion. = Apparently not.

On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Gareth = Whittock wrote:

How odd.. Cant you just hide your mac in a rack out of = sight and boot up a pc in full = view?
 
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= --Apple-Mail-28-367480132-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 06:00:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E7883BE8C; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:00:27 -0800 References: <22656560.1290053565543.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <9F1E4DF1-874E-4882-94BE-3B05D3380572@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Gosh, so how do PC folks launch different Ableton sets during a performance? There aren't any Ableton keyboard shortcuts to open or save sets that I'm aware... On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: >> Yes...tech company of course. Guess its not kosher for me to have my >> MBP onstage. > > I love this an old promo video produced by Microsoft to advertise > their Songsmith product. Check out the girl's laptop. Maybe all you > need is some stickers? :) > > Or a skin: > > http://www.istyles.com/apocalypse-macbook-skin-p-13764.html > > I'm not aware of anything like Apple Script that could be used for > Ableton. Some products support VBScript but I think they have to be > designed for it and I'm pretty sure Ableton isn't. I know some > people have > used the Bome MIDI translator to convert MIDI into keyboard > shortcuts for Ableton. > > If you do decide to use Mobius I've been rewriting the manuals, > they aren't done yet but I'll send you the links. > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 06:17:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D465E3BE91; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <886B632D-5CB2-43AD-A022-F4464631CA25@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:17:48 -0800 References: <22656560.1290053565543.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <9F1E4DF1-874E-4882-94BE-3B05D3380572@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Well at the very least I'm excited to try Mobius. Thanks Jeff. On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: >> Yes...tech company of course. Guess its not kosher for me to have my >> MBP onstage. > > I love this an old promo video produced by Microsoft to advertise > their Songsmith product. Check out the girl's laptop. Maybe all you > need is some stickers? :) > > Or a skin: > > http://www.istyles.com/apocalypse-macbook-skin-p-13764.html > > I'm not aware of anything like Apple Script that could be used for > Ableton. Some products support VBScript but I think they have to be > designed for it and I'm pretty sure Ableton isn't. I know some > people have > used the Bome MIDI translator to convert MIDI into keyboard > shortcuts for Ableton. > > If you do decide to use Mobius I've been rewriting the manuals, > they aren't done yet but I'll send you the links. > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 06:18:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 378FE3BEB6; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <041f01cb86e8$5ace8650$6400a8c0@vulcan> From: "d.nix" To: References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:17:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:18:21 +0000 (UTC) While I dont know your specific situation, and I know corporate gigs can be quite lucrative, I would decline the gig. It's difficult enough to develop a personal strategy and process that works for a live looping performance, but to have someone insist on dictating the choice of tools is beyond lame. Tell them to fuck off. Politely of course... DN > I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a > PC. Sigh.... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 06:24:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A19FE3BECA; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:24:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id :message-id:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity:importance:subject:to :from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=SUcheyKHgUzOtAtlCYhJ/pQBHnmPjzrpXenz1Yq/rVg=; b=kOZ8C8M010cYBdeacm+j9FriEWxq+coAeE1UlQkd9+wwapHca/J7fVrDs9V4c/ojrR uVEaGrqBy11pkY1O2/u5YZAuUQIPCF8yNDRvQhraFzs3vpAsEbusp74KLGYPLmkyjmzI 5wTUkwSq6ZsIMjPU68WYp1D8V5HEKRWbIEnvI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type:mime-version; b=CmoLxCGuPrLyDLNDvNw7lwnFJJeDwNjho/5mfpEqXdIU3v2rHuO+yilbj1S+mNLHqE xglk8oRWateS+CuPXaPXzYkEiFmbmaIXUg0/QbxDrSOantzAOQ0pQmT5eQzg00eiAz+L kQCd1khYIp5zRnligXLTw8Hy8r0eat8NW83PU= X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:138934594 Message-ID:<138934594-1290061449-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1704735246-@bda2841.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: cnovey@gmail.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? To: "Loopers Delight" From: cnovey@gmail.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:24:07 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:24:13 +0000 (UTC) Do the gig- make the money- learn something new- make a new business relationship. Shooting yourself in the foot over the platform makes no sense to me. /my$.02 ------Original Message------ From: d.nix To: Loopers Delight ReplyTo: Loopers Delight Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Sent: Nov 17, 2010 10:17 PM While I dont know your specific situation, and I know corporate gigs can be quite lucrative, I would decline the gig. It's difficult enough to develop a personal strategy and process that works for a live looping performance, but to have someone insist on dictating the choice of tools is beyond lame. Tell them to fuck off. Politely of course... DN > I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a > PC. Sigh.... > Sent via soup cans and string. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 06:26:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A5443BED5; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkFAMZV5Exg+I5h/2dsb2JhbACUUY4Bvj2FSwSEWokMGg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,216,1288569600"; d="scan'208,217";a="75496552" X-Previous-IP: 96.248.142.97 Message-Id: <2560BD73-5116-46F0-B5BD-CA16BD5CB8BF@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <041f01cb86e8$5ace8650$6400a8c0@vulcan> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-719-369396417 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:28:45 -0600 References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> <041f01cb86e8$5ace8650$6400a8c0@vulcan> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:26:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-719-369396417 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Tell them to fuck off. Politely of course... +1 Jeff --Apple-Mail-719-369396417 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


Tell them to fuck off. Politely of course...

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--Apple-Mail-719-369396417-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 06:38:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A53B93BEE0; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:38:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=SIPXyc9Rt1phq9Euj6NeqcyGenUy9N8sMHqm4Pdd5jo=; b=DPb08u+5eDHihXWMR87oWNYHUNvh2e2YzrF9sCUVusdO0T6/Z+SpXhSbH01IKXXPed fxOISfKsGilwWhr2SfBbEB81aA7Vr/RoxCGn/BeKhUhREJB6XQf4TxSiewG/70Y2E4yO lUtrQPGEBYIN87gg619fwXGRagRp6NS6qe6nY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=v1Q1OZhHcHZvKUrRO3RL7+I4t75KLhssJbOjg6KAVul8Ca2miq8sl6wj2yoZ0oCSej FC9MYEPjU1uFFrvgWOAl8efxmZew94HAquqRMT2IPPArQLT+gZ/MfnJ0HCb2x5acu5k7 AtjgWFRhr3EPaV6FlpFc32qjF8ak4diEJAt+E= References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> <041f01cb86e8$5ace8650$6400a8c0@vulcan> <2560BD73-5116-46F0-B5BD-CA16BD5CB8BF@frontier.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <2560BD73-5116-46F0-B5BD-CA16BD5CB8BF@frontier.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:39:00 +0100 Message-ID: <-233359904492371316@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255751dec75f9904954e09b2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:38:31 +0000 (UTC) --0003255751dec75f9904954e09b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 18 Nov 2010, at 07:26, Jeff Shirkey wrote: Tell them to fuck off. Politely of course... +1 Jeff --0003255751dec75f9904954e09b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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<= div>Jeff --0003255751dec75f9904954e09b2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 06:42:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 758993BEEC; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ffFTQo5ldgW+OGHWr8/zNCjzDU+yh7FxkYjR5F1RBCM=; b=Lg2qx8hHJma8M/EhOGdoUTNrRmWjhPPHG2CmDq8Z2djmN0cUVW2suwVwWl6J70d2zB 8I4MTDDsV1y9Oy/YD7czOKFVBg/t69+rpV9rElikUAlksVgR/hyJsgJ/tgiZWWPCCt7h w3Fg5+1AubD59eN+wIdNCrD1UxqxmjXCnblro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=SZcuNhpp7Q2+blJ9Kq5sjxjBkGw6QR9vT7TjbNvOf6ceNgyIKx7Lwv0uPZ6Ar7VolV +yQz3EqgsVtlPJb1bqgtT1x8iGjnRl5maUprYX2gmdZCDDI44qddOQByUbiFWcZewdWv PvggY8a3bfCpGEVni5ssG9oLgLDgqKJW9Rpc8= References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> <041f01cb86e8$5ace8650$6400a8c0@vulcan> <2560BD73-5116-46F0-B5BD-CA16BD5CB8BF@frontier.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <2560BD73-5116-46F0-B5BD-CA16BD5CB8BF@frontier.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:42:56 +0100 Message-ID: <6936431770956660389@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:42:30 +0000 (UTC) >> >> >> Tell them to fuck off. Politely of course... Oh I don't know... I wouldn't be that polite... I think if you hadn't thought about it for a nano second and just said ... You what.. You kidding right.. I think they would have let it pass... It's VERY odd... It's not microsoft is it? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 06:49:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1D113BEA6; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wWhoBTlul3dLX2KEH/faCysuByfhtcZkTy6IlZwEOAI=; b=qRGtttIUTNP/7TEaSSUDM2fYZvegSpsTlDJvorvrYktx2CSiCmC9mjH7+Xh9bZumRv QL3uZ1VF+tIgVXcR414XWSBgQN7nTuZiTLNXDF53Iv8rb9dy1/tFmqU9diJ1WJQTFaeq R4TdPVOGr7Q+aoblco+n84ZZbUt0QJGmEvvjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SQhhS6zBTNd0JL9QGP1zZtpfk3hDt35vbnZJ6UpPTSsFyqHHmVOMV6ZBCowoFjxfNh +VQ5bMjG5MB+jUw53X+WxaCDjOK9NuG/wCCRrc4nsnGksnUz8ASjXy0+yzHHGJLEVHZJ GLrk4Y6kZcE5J1FCM0VV/s65cpxtTW6xfrGek= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6936431770956660389@unknownmsgid> References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> <041f01cb86e8$5ace8650$6400a8c0@vulcan> <2560BD73-5116-46F0-B5BD-CA16BD5CB8BF@frontier.com> <6936431770956660389@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:49:09 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:49:11 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 PM, mark francombe wrote: >>> >>> >>> Tell them to fuck off. Politely of course... > > Oh I don't know... I wouldn't be that polite... I think if you hadn't > thought about it for a nano second and just said ... You what.. You > kidding right.. I think they would have let it pass... > > It's VERY odd... It's not microsoft is it? > > That was my immediate question. Did they specify PC hardware, or microsoft software? If the former, then use linux and make them eat their words... You'll get to keep sooperlooper, and get jack and all the bash scripting you like thrown in... -mjn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 07:31:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AAED3BEBE; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:31:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=S3LvkJdRLqTbGgHPzkE0l9PxD/m9ndciJymL1B5fZYA=; b=XNxxHDy0WKVTEkAb742ra5rDwVNrh12D++7Y2dlh2W0X9gslHO3HiHRNC41a2oXEHX 7Vc5Q9sj1AbMsoBF22Jl71p7fC5X0pxBhYVqu1e3QSN298a3MTifikJtFAwgG1KyVkdL jhc5cOySejOhB7hI36xPui9OukO6I8b0vetUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PJSYyXzsKhO+skSbR6nI9M9u0oryvez9IhZibbicTwI850qCQ+vq16PYPExjwQvTTa IfI2KUCllmTnG/Or6VbU5h+olbrMrkJgWCTCd0ysqb+z6Q1I+JrnMq5teNnu5v1xEx9w BISKxFrCafUjUiG0ySAxDTv0eijVdPBruxoUo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:30:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? From: "* p l a n b *" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555ce96490a0a04954ec508 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:31:02 +0000 (UTC) --00032555ce96490a0a04954ec508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 why don't you just buy a hardshell plastic case that will cover your laptop and the apple logo, and call it a PC. it is Apple who invented the catch phrase Personal Computer after all. :) James loop jockey www.planbboy.com On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a PC. > Sigh.... > > Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and MidiPipe > is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius. > > My main question... > > What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts to > open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? > > tanks, Z > > -- James van Leuven planbboy@gmail.com mobile: +33(0)6 70 99 19 28 --00032555ce96490a0a04954ec508 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 why don't you just buy a hardshell plastic case that will cover your laptop and the apple logo, and call it a PC. it is Apple who
invented the catch phrase Personal Computer after all.

:)

James
loop jockey
www.planbboy.com


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a PC. Sigh....

Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and MidiPipe is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius.

My main question...

What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts to open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC?

tanks, Z




--
James van Leuven
planbboy@gmail.com
mobile: +33(0)6 70 99 19 28


--00032555ce96490a0a04954ec508-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 07:35:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 543D93BED0; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> Subject: RE: what I do on a PC? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:35:04 +0100 Message-ID: <2D7B7A2BFF6C4B7194058BA9BE9313B2@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> Thread-Index: AcuG8S5m9BSeawPOSi2fGUUN48NgCQAAda9A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.4.98; VDF: 7.10.14.29) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:35:11 +0000 (UTC) don't know about this myself (I use Bidule on a PC) but I'll ask my friend Markus Reuter (who doesn't read the LD list afaik) - he uses Ableton extensively on a Sony Vaio PC and although he typically plays one long continuous set, not having to switch, he might know. > From: Zoe Keating [mailto:info@zoekeating.com] > I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist > that I use a PC. Sigh.... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 07:48:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DEA13BED8; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CJZ3GfWnHvsQNwOvKJNVfbqxaDR2jkrHOWxFgAMQ1mw=; b=cOKyaoK8yqG8TTKivU4xizymUIh3DtbVEQpl18GptvrArm5X8OEyRGKZhPbKcCE2Bk bJEvKHM2gV3kLnrqk5G1DlWptc8Z7ElEaJOeULU9kjUZVZLF+G3eNkI8jCtMUnP1Ovpg 0bR+WRDHqp5lLBC0uHfvmyeV+lvemnfhhJ79M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=C31DEeB8YkTkQxQ409JHdJF68jyepygbB+vo3UHfpaJv/ARF753VZR6EAt3GO96oyg YWpd93mX9CEe6jy55aVCUQoxEO8fOfSNpotqQAX8IAsWL3wOYOwvbGmOhY72br69LM4B XAyOOpZri4vPYXd8LC9otOVBaPP/A2L0ocDdc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:48:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd8966ebc2b604954f02c1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:48:11 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd8966ebc2b604954f02c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 wow Zoe im really excited you are joining mobius! you gonna fall in love with it,ive tried Ableton once,i think you will feel a lot more free with it, and then after the gig you ll be rich enough tot tell them thank you,fuck off and politely switch back to Mobius mac On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a PC. > Sigh.... > > Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and MidiPipe > is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius. > > My main question... > > What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts to > open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? > > tanks, Z > > --0016e6dd8966ebc2b604954f02c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow Zoe im really excited you are joining mobius!
you gonna fall in love= with it,ive tried Ableton once,i think you will feel a lot more free with = it,
and then after the gig you ll be rich enough tot tell them thank you= ,fuck off and politely switch back to Mobius mac

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Zoe Keating= <info@zoekeati= ng.com> wrote:
I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a PC. = Sigh....

Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and MidiPipe= is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius.

My main question...

What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts to o= pen and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC?

tanks, Z


--0016e6dd8966ebc2b604954f02c1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 08:08:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89C573BE94; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 394 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:08:59 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mta7.brinkster.com From: "CM" To: Subject: ...speaking of PC... Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:02:20 -0800 Message-ID: <003d01cb86f6$ed70caa0$c8525fe0$@asyouthink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AcuG9S3tSamLzQI4Qba5xoYUn0AJtA== Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:08:59 +0000 (UTC) No corporate gigs here, BUT... I'm dipping my toes back into the looping waters. Current studio looping setup is on an ANCIENT (P3!) Windows box with an almost-equally-ancient Ableton version, running in play-only mode and synced to an Electrix Repeater for live-looping. Looking to switch to a "modern" (i.e. this century) Windows laptop sometime soon (should I still keep the Repeater??); what's the applicable current/recommended hardware route to low-latency live laptop-based looping? (Feel free to point me to some FAQ if I missed this answered elsewhere -- seems like it w/b a frequent question, but I've not seen it in recent lurking). C From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 08:37:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F0373BEA4; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tASU7y9LcLGcJyEOQ9ra4Tk9QRDJDorlXpaOIifBKZs=; b=RDsHc2D4MLbABR0Rpew6QqWX6dL4M5LqfkqUzVF4+LJ5rRUG8PTFRMKA3ekme7E9bI M9OCAMfda2f9swU4bgMnN7TmEl0O4qe9TDYybBZk62ZfhzcaigWaqxr2IvXheZO36Ms5 PwAJ9tK2AQu4JyieKO/g2I0FawHzMsNWy+MD8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=qOXo/q0E++JlE+vLk7bXBkWjzxe+fhIcmaTfF2uMxqgppm6KgyVQFwK8DNrjWblbBs ri0yDSs/Ma7QRhh4QrzYIX6YYRt6DqPRUY7nDi8JTnBu/VJKvTFiQZvmMgMcwvh95Fcr ZAeSbViIg+sEEec7KPKk8D+x8RaGrZ+Hf3TGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:37:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: what I do on a PC? From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:37:21 +0000 (UTC) > I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a > PC. Sigh.... First of all, I'm really delighted to hear this. Having someone like you as part of the M=F6bius community will help M=F6bius - and maybe give you some new ideas as well? Now to your main question: > What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts > to open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? As someone already mentioned, there's no simple solution (at least not which I know of), as you can't select files in a dialogue with keyboard shortcuts. Two workarounds come to mind: 1. Build all the sets into one set. 2. At the end of each set, end Ableton Live (via alt+F4). Have Live start from a batch file that successively calls Live, every time with a different set on the command line. This way, you can cycle through sets in a fixed way (or even use keyboard input to branch). Downside: Live needs to start anew every time you change sets. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 08:45:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EEF43BEBA; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1011180009 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-11-18_04:2010-11-18,2010-11-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:44:58 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: <_ZypeB.A.LcE.NeO5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Use a PC but glitchify the hell out of it. Then say "I'm just being creative" t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:37 AM Subject: what I do on a PC? > I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a > PC. Sigh.... First of all, I'm really delighted to hear this. Having someone like you as part of the Möbius community will help Möbius - and maybe give you some new ideas as well? Now to your main question: > What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts > to open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? As someone already mentioned, there's no simple solution (at least not which I know of), as you can't select files in a dialogue with keyboard shortcuts. Two workarounds come to mind: 1. Build all the sets into one set. 2. At the end of each set, end Ableton Live (via alt+F4). Have Live start from a batch file that successively calls Live, every time with a different set on the command line. This way, you can cycle through sets in a fixed way (or even use keyboard input to branch). Downside: Live needs to start anew every time you change sets. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 10:26:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78FA23BE90; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <22656560.1290053565543.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <9F1E4DF1-874E-4882-94BE-3B05D3380572@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:26:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:26:58 +0000 (UTC) ? From: Jeff Larson > On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > Yes...tech company of course. Guess its not kosher for me to have my > MBP onstage. > I love this an old promo video produced by Microsoft to advertise their > Songsmith product. Check out the girl's laptop. Maybe all you need is > some stickers? :) I didn't care for Songsmith the way I don't care for karaoke, Guitar Hero or Koan. All of which purport to imbue one with false sense of the Ability to Create. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 11:07:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 744503BE8F; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jcOdaAEVOMl92M8LPbRyVan0SId2oeegQFyUOtakplk=; b=dweEilVxKwTtiJTkG38ImqEBBP/7mA6m2zREjMskf87+xTNoylJU2tIUtAPxdt/yJX 2Snetx8CtRRuZG+VG+d7b7lacAP7Q4p2T6rVGeI8ssDOOd9fJXNzHPvLy/zaBTrNe+5J tENvt3RfvGItmrTBJMIEDqPec70NJnvVx2sLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Z21wgU5wwUfKzS2HfgOMfSE05/zZy0elN0o4XNOFTwqCkEAIOPe3s1GwX+vhm+Lt/J QXPvmQGkgxcxK0U0yeZ2bumoT53KAblpAkVLe0/tSLPMbbN6CoTsZA0ZbMZSlNa2RUOz dsQa7kPFUg/tFigGStnw3Gwtb0Ipdk5gcYwrE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:07:31 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1e70edbad0a049551cb83 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:07:33 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1e70edbad0a049551cb83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 zoe - this only really becomes a problem if you try to keep to your current method and play your tunes as you normally do. one strategy my be to abandon everything and kind of start again. just use one instance of mobius...put a few basic functions on your footpedal....and dare i say it....improvise...? you've been asked to play and they've told you what gear to use, but they havn't told you WHAT to play! whatever you decide to do, best of luck with it! sim On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a PC. > Sigh.... > > Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and MidiPipe > is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius. > > My main question... > > What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts to > open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? > > tanks, Z > > --000e0cd1e70edbad0a049551cb83 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable zoe - this only really becomes a problem if you try to keep to your current= method and play your tunes as you normally do.

one strategy my be t= o abandon everything and kind of start again. just use one instance of mobi= us...put a few basic functions on your footpedal....and dare i say it....im= provise...?

you've been asked to play and they've told you what gear to use= , but they havn't told you WHAT to play!

whatever you decide to = do, best of luck with it!

sim

On T= hu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
I have to do my t= hing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a PC. Sigh....

Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and MidiPipe= is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius.

My main question...

What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts to o= pen and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC?

tanks, Z


--000e0cd1e70edbad0a049551cb83-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 11:25:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EF9B3BE8D; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gOUwV58zT8SrurOdzyuKLeE8j2Ef6VjGuVQUFS7JsaE=; b=qJKyPNPhH1M0Pt0CKAQsMsklvF6VjVgsnREhrfxss/weAxCvh3ENfTfhIpgq6ZyRxj XJTpeUa47WHerQukC3xCiuIE0bMpx5ET4qLrE0W+VNvQu8h0CrRpLLivd3m77JVXeKHk CeTmtChIcVKw8czgYXTUxDcuTloVddvMNzeTA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=m8tpb/vgQ1SHheJDmfTrLlfWHkBfQQC8FoDagRoO8m0gVHjpsfRLfyXcNjBJ9ztxwF IkpY/97ASO57W047zmMvygjtYZOLC/mqicrw74rBZ32VwDLNdo+QPkX3uVa4VcbVyVab moFTqM/QktCtoyKaLdSysIg3HMEg9JDz8xw3I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:25:40 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175114f2be88530495520c77 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:25:41 +0000 (UTC) --0015175114f2be88530495520c77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 just wanted to add... the reason i suggest this, is because if you try to go down the route of bending the PC to your will, it's going to be all about the gear. it'll take days (weeks?) to get it all sorted (if you even manage it), you'll be on a steep learning curve and you'll be worried that it'll all work properly on the night. if it doesn't, then you'll come away feeling frustrated and maybe even angry or disappointed. if you go down the standalone mobius route, you can be up and running in an afternoon (we'll all help you get set up) and then it's just down to your musicianship - something you know well and something that doesn't change. you won't need to worry about the gear and you can just get on and play. sim On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > zoe - this only really becomes a problem if you try to keep to your current > method and play your tunes as you normally do. > > one strategy my be to abandon everything and kind of start again. just use > one instance of mobius...put a few basic functions on your footpedal....and > dare i say it....improvise...? > > you've been asked to play and they've told you what gear to use, but they > havn't told you WHAT to play! > > whatever you decide to do, best of luck with it! > > sim > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > >> I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a PC. >> Sigh.... >> >> Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and >> MidiPipe is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius. >> >> My main question... >> >> What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts to >> open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? >> >> tanks, Z >> >> > --0015175114f2be88530495520c77 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just wanted to add...

the reason i suggest this, is because if you t= ry to go down the route of bending the PC to your will, it's going to b= e all about the gear. it'll take days (weeks?) to get it all sorted (if= you even manage it), you'll be on a steep learning curve and you'l= l be worried that it'll all work properly on the night. if it doesn'= ;t, then you'll come away feeling frustrated and maybe even angry or di= sappointed. if you go down the standalone mobius route, you can be up and r= unning in an afternoon (we'll all help you get set up) and then it'= s just down to your musicianship - something you know well and something th= at doesn't change. you won't need to worry about the gear and you c= an just get on and play.

sim

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:07 AM,= Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
zoe - this only really becomes a problem if you try to keep to your current= method and play your tunes as you normally do.

one strategy my be t= o abandon everything and kind of start again. just use one instance of mobi= us...put a few basic functions on your footpedal....and dare i say it....im= provise...?

you've been asked to play and they've told you what gear to use= , but they havn't told you WHAT to play!

whatever you decide to = do, best of luck with it!

sim

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com&g= t; wrote:
I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they i= nsist that I use a PC. Sigh....

Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and MidiPipe= is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius.

My main question...

What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts to o= pen and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC?

tanks, Z



--0015175114f2be88530495520c77-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 12:21:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 172A53BE8E; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZF9OdeiZ/MZb/4CO6Ebu34/aFZ8Xm3/xWy3vFicoOqU=; b=ot7OcetpEoEOwt5jiB2EFHeX/5bXJU7dTp2IV5Bj112omHB0WrXn7IQiMDVE3qyyh4 w3EkZANUQnON90T02WvPiIOUZqqgjp1QFejiq9VFYmd9B7iAgmNBSLyHHqg803woDpXq AFodck/7yU3PrcA/ushh8pTZFpiWt0xJPpmmA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vYj73cKhXJjMgXuwgShjr6MKLvljPn+4kxK7aALy8JDhoto9IRtH6FHyMlbUWlWhrx EmJcQxQPQ7/EgOa/YXupjfsUnUpHZqai3KSddEJVEn/dtsz6739A7RiNUD03Buc0s+8L qKJawamE2Fmm5DhVLFQystGiHg7cbsU0J48Ys= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <76AAF8E6F7B44FBD81516298CCD8C749@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:21:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live recordings from Ambient-Art festival From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:21:11 +0000 (UTC) I have uploaded the 2 excerpts to Soundcloud so you can also download them. Btw: the audio quality of the 1st track is not 100%, the recording itself was pretty bad, lot's of hum and a very low left channel. It's a drone of 10 minutes where I used a auto-volume and reverse effect on my piano and the partial verb from the M13. You'll also hear a strange loop in the back containing a pitchbended synth sound. I have to figure out how I did that, should be great for a track on the new album ;-) I guess that's the magic of looping. Enjoy! http://soundcloud.com/premonitionfactory/sets/ambient-art-festival-2010-innsbruck-austria -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 12:30:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DEF03BE92; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 534853330/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.178.227/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.178.227 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtEBAFOr5ExV0rLj/2dsb2JhbAAHlEnLeoVLBI1b X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,217,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="534853330" Message-ID: <4CE51C7F.20207@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:30:55 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Simplest solution would be to run through your set on the mac, recording onto pc all the audio that comes from the loops to create a "music minus one cello" version. Then when the big day comes, just press playback and play along. What you've been asked is about as reasonable as insisting you play your set on tuba. andy Zoe Keating wrote: > I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a > PC. Sigh.... > > Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and > MidiPipe is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius. > > My main question... > > What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts > to open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? > > tanks, Z > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 12:34:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BFF03BE8E; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z4IEG5Mj4JvPGnfSkx1kJXI87FIqWwpq5p/CRM/ZLuI=; b=q3wEw1MOciP0TuEgrnvQpl+zT/ZgvdA9q6fYiqOuN2HY+3APw23GtxlAuivI2CXXyo w9wfXFYLot5+Wh1p8+MFgbq/Tr8BDvsuKUsZy/Z2qqiqFk5HLqrPKdiAKyWNUhvGp3xs va7wDGrag6vLGuSG3kqydZcj7gKveWWCpBlZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Lz7lDwWdIJrMB6ataeui/8QPf6GkSpe05MFcwVYED6wrs+i3FXDWsC/dR6mpUIK4Gd nkd5VpP3wZkK84UA7eGcz3TO9dbeWY7lcQ6yKZYu4SmsUud6Fv7Ilx5JDAcI2DOmmTHW 3qdHmR19AGhHseqm5gTZIGqQW4KRG55fO+Fv4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CE51C7F.20207@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> <4CE51C7F.20207@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:34:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b8e767469d2049553030c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:34:40 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b8e767469d2049553030c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > What you've been asked is about as reasonable as insisting > you play your set on tuba. > i agree - they must be paying you a helluva lot of dough, or you simply enjoy a challenge. doc --0016363b8e767469d2049553030c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What you've been asked is about as reasonable as insisting
you play your set on tuba.

=A0i agree -= they must be paying you a helluva lot of dough, or you simply enjoy a chal= lenge.

doc
--0016363b8e767469d2049553030c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 13:08:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2016B3BE90; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE52541.7090702@aol.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:08:17 +0100 From: chrisrover User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FOUND: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070203030008030804030509" x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:283972960:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29014ce525422ca6 X-AOL-IP: 84.185.12.81 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:08:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070203030008030804030509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you all for your input. Tallying up the results: Audio Mulch http://www.audiomulch.com/ Bidule http://www.plogue.com Soundboard http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/soundboard Soundplant39 http://www.soundplant.org/index.html What a community ! Thanks and cheers to all :-) Christian Rover www.myspace.com/christianrover --------------070203030008030804030509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you all for your input. Tallying up the results:

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http://www.plogue.com

Soundboard
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/soundboard

Soundplant39
http://www.soundplant.org/index.html

What a community ! Thanks and cheers to all :-)

Christian Rover

www.myspace.com/christianrover
 --------------070203030008030804030509-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 13:19:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D22BF3BE8D; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=e/cO/Z7ckr8sX7LTDb1sAt5/4nNGNw41zm9cZOxMdO4=; b=h7p7orm/EjHVF2ISbsFU8pea2PC68sQatUEy2Dol8I3aoLD8M62b5PDRZRaSvNjUF4 CglS0EAjwMlXeFfJas4bv2OMVpoJs26Q7eJqyGgYm7Fv51EMdaFIRCd+W/0Hl3Fdxgej v55O72fYbrisNFCHdfl+zIh484mSn31gXL32w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Uv9S0e/uQT+8ap6+PP68HLDEARUiwy3VNzVHCNF2nQ9+AtFTgE0tglywHuCPfrXF6M sA1ZNkTg5jdzdKG1L4p0v3ekb14m/RIEmBbUt2U9G4iYUEzmbzA7k/1K2ltzAX+tFCHn T1r8IZS3j7JSAO0iYkZi2yrGejLli+GMsVIZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:19:28 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: mobius script help From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750dbe2bfc76b049553a30a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:19:29 +0000 (UTC) --00151750dbe2bfc76b049553a30a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 can anyone tell me why the replace functions in this script are behaving like overdubs and not replacing the previous audio? set 8thsPerCycle 16 wait cycle repeat 16 wait Subcycle replace reverse wait subcycle replace reverse wait subcycle next if i have the replace button on the UI and hit it, it behaves as expected i expect it's something simple i havn't checked in the options somewhere many thanks! sim --00151750dbe2bfc76b049553a30a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 can anyone tell me why the replace functions in this script are behaving like overdubs and not replacing the previous audio?

set 8thsPerCycle 16
wait cycle
repeat 16
wait Subcycle
replace
reverse
wait subcycle
replace
reverse
wait subcycle
next

if i have the replace button on the UI and hit it, it behaves as expected

i expect it's something simple i havn't checked in the options somewhere

many thanks!

sim
--00151750dbe2bfc76b049553a30a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 14:45:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 802D73BE8F; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Nr0W6o76Lc/0rDBRJRp/lVmbnjjY+zKr+/NLcmO7oo1Jtfu5U90UeMaTA9Sosh4O+oSJvOzxmsKezUFcZS5MJP10w9aS546k505Y+4a9UBk/XyscwgqDf6oRsZgQ2R+B; Message-ID: <20101118084545.byqldwqqokw8ooww@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:45:45 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? References: <22656560.1290053565543.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <22656560.1290053565543.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Just set up a pc as a prop and use what you are comfortable with. If asked, just say you are using the computer as a control hub. Lordy... Quoting stanitarium@earthlink.net: > man i've heard of lousy contract riders for shows but that is kind > of ridiculous isnt it? > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Zoe Keating >> Sent: Nov 17, 2010 7:49 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: what I do on a PC? >> >> I have to do my thing for a corporate gig and they insist that I use a >> PC. Sigh.... >> >> Ableton should be possible although it looks like Sooperlooper and >> MidiPipe is Mac only and I'll have to learn Mobius. >> >> My main question... >> >> What is the equivalent of Apple Script on a PC? I launch Apple Scripts >> to open and close Ableton sets...does anyone do this on a PC? >> >> tanks, Z >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 14:46:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C1A13BE8B; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=iMLaI4QHfyeH5qCMyFsA:9 a=ApHQrgOpZsFZQyUkcZPLXXLfij0A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:46:24 -0800 References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> <4CE51C7F.20207@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <2gPMsB.A.KXD.CxT5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:46:26 +0000 (UTC) I couldn't agree more. That's a brilliant way of putting it. On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Doc Rossi wrote: > > What you've been asked is about as reasonable as insisting > you play your set on tuba. > > i agree - they must be paying you a helluva lot of dough, or you > simply enjoy a challenge. > > doc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 15:10:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 415263BE8A; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wlm0b8bQwVyxUCYkW+a1XQNXC80Dr4WpAsZDe6mQJw4=; b=O+zGXtB6bv7+xAW+0tKY0CRnH4OzWv9Iz37YKhny6ZpUPV3G5tovjSDf59NMuAJ3it FwBrz64EtDiCq62iYst+iC4unDz0DBpkVPTcsBHTgvMZLFQbQWj3uijuelOwSGRnX3eR 1by/bdG9i2P7FTHrHyp/MZrFsueP/mlfAfFao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Z5uNwaQqsDj2XKxzs2sWDDtCxJeTBTN/WJhn238EOIChsSIF2HZ5EOKvzVOr5lWtzU q0G1lvPSi0icHRgn6WUZNWjerKGFv64T/P2l2XSSyGdOTg0ePCZVHJYHzzo5F5OnHb6A QpQ5ipxnEdIKa9hB7ZOLlCcmMNEtRXxkjYGnM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:10:42 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a9128a2f000495553157 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:10:45 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a9128a2f000495553157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 another mobius question, i'm afraid if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so please bear with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way that functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the original material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm right, then i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondary feedback" the prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback is set low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set this to min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is replaced. again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up right somewhere - any clues where to look? many thanks sim --000e0cd6a9128a2f000495553157 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable another mobius question, i'm afraid

if i understand i correctly = (and i've never been an edp user, so please bear with me), the secondar= y feedback parameter should affect the way that functions like substitute w= ork, by controlling how much of the original material is kept underneath a = substituted part of a loop. if i'm right, then i'm a little confuse= d, because when i select "enable secondary feedback" the prerecor= ded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback is set low. i= f i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set this to min o= r max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is replaced. <= br>
again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up righ= t somewhere - any clues where to look?

many thanks

sim
--000e0cd6a9128a2f000495553157-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 15:12:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 040E93BE90; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=TEXXTZyPIYbSnKcsjcgaIdXhF4CNah5v/Ryivosf4QU7eGkCwRmENnG6s/xjcOxa+9BdQZz06Isn45ArgwbtclCeZ/tHU1jd2EdbEm4c0OrfYOnYB/kHqUvKqk3S5lLj; Message-ID: <20101118091229.luxrj20jxckgo88c@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:12:29 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what I do on a PC? References: <8319F49B-0781-4E04-9098-B6FC238906A2@zoekeating.com> <4CE51C7F.20207@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4CE51C7F.20207@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Quoting andy butler : > Simplest solution would be to run through your set on the mac, > recording onto pc all the audio that comes from the loops to create > a "music minus one cello" version. > Then when the big day comes, just press playback and play > along. > > What you've been asked is about as reasonable as insisting > you play your set on tuba. > > andy > > Well put, Andy. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 15:26:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CA623BE8F; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kMuq1Mwlpstx1SRJrd5ipwHNy31E1f1+yrPSoqkjg4M=; b=xU3MZ5MsVdcNco1+kZ2EX7tX2n3TrnD+PeyHoPaFjI8Yb5SprDs8aM9ekxeu8aM09F UT/vvsIm9KRwdYY33iP7+CqYbfEsmKgvhci21JhEwT0A0VAmJ3mXwqN9Q6K//Qoiv63V I2dgsGxAk/pmBlZx+mDe9vmEZnahGrNdYE4co= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=S39AG3RxRubKEf0tqSDKAjlsKsX5jApLhzp3wOGLdxNF6LNnruxwP4wmUd9NBg8Hyk AQOM/ENlsTPlq0QzXKEIhYATrtQVUSwpPhaVMA/++ciUgMXGWruAC1t78oWGIF/M0/j/ S7LtchP3hxL5oURqYnJezrCTP1MW1n9hfsZ18= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:25:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:26:14 +0000 (UTC) In Mobius preferences there is a page where you can chose what functions will be affected by Secondary Feedback supporting actions and what function will not be affected. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > another mobius question, i'm afraid > > if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so please bear > with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way that > functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the original > material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm right, then > i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondary feedback" the > prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback is set > low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set this to > min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is > replaced. > > again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up right somewhere - > any clues where to look? > > many thanks > > sim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 15:49:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 054063BE92; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TA6WTEYjueBFWiCW+0uhL/OeXbv60KqxBG4Jl2cYq6U=; b=m+1n9aao7YMM/RraiuvwlmpJdIFzmq8xjERE+y5n6tg3B5VHLATqXsNqefs7mOj9vB XlajuJHRZfpkcpQ+vHyFHLP15Z6vt00Qm2sReYk+fCbDGKCBL7eFiYurJbytgvSiZAGX OUjnHw6F0vxnUhtukRUvbJWqcXD90WFfoVfM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=DoRihBNlWUZJQmrKJntsYKr82O8Jo0dOlddzMFssAqa6BPGQ4tovy2+DGzEWIhYpgH MOPu5HopvG5YpABQFD2WJtBU9L/DgzZ1ZZxqcen5d335mDIbYO13QPocK+g5i1KQLf8P JFbJOyJxkhSLTxEDDnmEuYB6Mnv757GNQkyzU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:49:01 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ae1e92887a049555ba34 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:49:02 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ae1e92887a049555ba34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks per.. i found that page in the global parameters > modes. everything's on the left. does that mean they are unaffected? the text above says "modes ignoring secondary feedback" i have secondary feedback enabled, but it doesn't seem to make any difference if substitute is on the right or the left of the global list... sim On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > In Mobius preferences there is a page where you can chose what > functions will be affected by Secondary Feedback supporting actions > and what function will not be affected. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > another mobius question, i'm afraid > > > > if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so please > bear > > with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way that > > functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the original > > material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm right, > then > > i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondary feedback" > the > > prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback is set > > low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set this > to > > min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is > > replaced. > > > > again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up right > somewhere - > > any clues where to look? > > > > many thanks > > > > sim > > > > --000e0cd6ae1e92887a049555ba34 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks per.. i found that page in the global parameters > modes. everyth= ing's on the left. does that mean they are unaffected? the text above s= ays "modes ignoring secondary feedback"

i have secondary f= eedback enabled, but it doesn't seem to make any difference if substitu= te is on the right or the left of the global list...

sim

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, = Per Boysen <per= boysen@gmail.com> wrote:
In Mobius preferences there is a page where you can chose what
functions will be affected by Secondary Feedback supporting actions
and what function will not be affected.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> another mobius question, i'm afraid
>
> if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so p= lease bear
> with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way that<= br> > functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the origina= l
> material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm r= ight, then
> i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondar= y feedback" the
> prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback = is set
> low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set th= is to
> min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is > replaced.
>
> again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up rig= ht somewhere -
> any clues where to look?
>
> many thanks
>
> sim
>


--000e0cd6ae1e92887a049555ba34-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 15:54:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21AB43BE90; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Rf5SeqFoO5dv8j35ObwhZzl2gwxdqkaPVEIeNaoqSlo=; b=RS8SIQDNxOP6G/4nWtxUvQ4mC1pdbplI5EMQam2LyYfDOCMnLafIW7A/xb3OtgikGg uH+2UDjsr/MX+2rSP8km08k8KqEDOV2H6AtOZ7MMigGQLWMHYNcZjwrWsHJt3jh+Ktnv QDkimZOT7Azul6HNpiCKbjKRCrduh8/1vfr2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=PvEWKEN2O3uZ1vs45q3vcOepHP13CtzraaU/Eor24MINo3JM16Wv307xjFyonE2yZ1 VBRBwKag90Un8SX0wH0q0L+p6AB2eg8qaJzQUx68++GowIoElnHgpMZembAO8kQnal+r zUJX6LPxZDgyPjc+g0+6sFwrNY/6pGciugNcI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:54:35 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd486b27a3164049555cee7 Resent-Message-ID: <-gGLXB.A.sBF.8wU5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:54:37 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd486b27a3164049555cee7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 reading the manual, it seems as if i should have interface mode set to expert or stutter. i tried setting to both and still no change. man this is complicated! On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > thanks per.. i found that page in the global parameters > modes. > everything's on the left. does that mean they are unaffected? the text above > says "modes ignoring secondary feedback" > > i have secondary feedback enabled, but it doesn't seem to make any > difference if substitute is on the right or the left of the global list... > > sim > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> In Mobius preferences there is a page where you can chose what >> functions will be affected by Secondary Feedback supporting actions >> and what function will not be affected. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >> > another mobius question, i'm afraid >> > >> > if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so please >> bear >> > with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way that >> > functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the original >> > material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm right, >> then >> > i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondary feedback" >> the >> > prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback is set >> > low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set this >> to >> > min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is >> > replaced. >> > >> > again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up right >> somewhere - >> > any clues where to look? >> > >> > many thanks >> > >> > sim >> > >> >> > --000e0cd486b27a3164049555cee7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable reading the manual, it seems as if i should have interface mode set to expe= rt or stutter. i tried setting to both and still no change. man this is com= plicated!

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM= , Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
thanks per.. i fo= und that page in the global parameters > modes. everything's on the = left. does that mean they are unaffected? the text above says "modes i= gnoring secondary feedback"

i have secondary feedback enabled, but it doesn't seem to make any = difference if substitute is on the right or the left of the global list...<= br>
sim


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
In Mobius preferences there is a page where you can chose what
functions will be affected by Secondary Feedback supporting actions
and what function will not be affected.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Simeon Harris
<sime= onharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> another mobius question, i'm afraid
>
> if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so p= lease bear
> with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way that<= br> > functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the origina= l
> material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm r= ight, then
> i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondar= y feedback" the
> prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback = is set
> low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set th= is to
> min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is > replaced.
>
> again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up rig= ht somewhere -
> any clues where to look?
>
> many thanks
>
> sim
>



--000e0cd486b27a3164049555cee7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 15:57:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 389E83BE91; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WuMGfJfMwPM78shERb8+D31S4bXCMHHoBomKsgdpRR0=; b=HEtkDeCEO+MtftJutXCjL2bSWPwkdfvqPc/rM8IazMm3VgeGbblom0zvGjJWs5Jr87 Lg6ZqZgSIQ0MzTszRaZM2QxsYKKLgFcBq93i6BfRXl4UTJ1LW+/AHeVBn73TmMhApR4J cr2txriMVZUHCddiuIwM4qSdBMv3+oXI8n3Pc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Jjw8EUWLiLalatgrV3Rdx/Kj2YNiCtrTwR6e5iAs1Ad1vUZWrDi66kA1RnXl8BWzVV L5zcRnYKBhFVHDuUS/HuTvBCD4yRGSSyTr+8aYb01sIKJOzurzw7sq3JaOLIrpl+/O9T Hwuj0Wv9FifNqBzShlm6+izioG+/Ml7AyLLH8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:57:26 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6adb6a67c44049555d8c1 Resent-Message-ID: <7h43mC.A.NJF.mzU5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:57:27 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6adb6a67c44049555d8c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok - got it working!! On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > reading the manual, it seems as if i should have interface mode set to > expert or stutter. i tried setting to both and still no change. man this is > complicated! > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> thanks per.. i found that page in the global parameters > modes. >> everything's on the left. does that mean they are unaffected? the text above >> says "modes ignoring secondary feedback" >> >> i have secondary feedback enabled, but it doesn't seem to make any >> difference if substitute is on the right or the left of the global list... >> >> sim >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> In Mobius preferences there is a page where you can chose what >>> functions will be affected by Secondary Feedback supporting actions >>> and what function will not be affected. >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >>> www.looproom.com internet music hub >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Simeon Harris >>> wrote: >>> > another mobius question, i'm afraid >>> > >>> > if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so please >>> bear >>> > with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way that >>> > functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the original >>> > material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm right, >>> then >>> > i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondary >>> feedback" the >>> > prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback is >>> set >>> > low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set >>> this to >>> > min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is >>> > replaced. >>> > >>> > again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up right >>> somewhere - >>> > any clues where to look? >>> > >>> > many thanks >>> > >>> > sim >>> > >>> >>> >> > --000e0cd6adb6a67c44049555d8c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok - got it working!!

On Thu, Nov 18, 201= 0 at 3:54 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:=
reading the manua= l, it seems as if i should have interface mode set to expert or stutter. i = tried setting to both and still no change. man this is complicated!


On Thu, Nov= 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail= .com> wrote:
thanks per.. i fo= und that page in the global parameters > modes. everything's on the = left. does that mean they are unaffected? the text above says "modes i= gnoring secondary feedback"

i have secondary feedback enabled, but it doesn't seem to make any = difference if substitute is on the right or the left of the global list...<= br>
sim


On Thu, Nov = 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrot= e:
In Mobius preferences there is a page where you can chose what
functions will be affected by Secondary Feedback supporting actions
and what function will not be affected.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Simeon Harris
<sime= onharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> another mobius question, i'm afraid
>
> if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so p= lease bear
> with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way that<= br> > functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the origina= l
> material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm r= ight, then
> i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondar= y feedback" the
> prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback = is set
> low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set th= is to
> min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is > replaced.
>
> again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up rig= ht somewhere -
> any clues where to look?
>
> many thanks
>
> sim
>




--000e0cd6adb6a67c44049555d8c1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 16:14:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99FB63BE95; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <3295F7D8-B0CD-4A75-91E9-1BB4F362AC7E@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: on a PC... Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:14:54 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:14:56 +0000 (UTC) wow, pc vs mac....a touchy subject!! this gig is one of those high-profile 5 minutes during a keynote kind of thing...everyone and their mother is going to be looking at what i'm using. i think i'll have to just recreate a version of my world on a PC. its ironic, because they want me to show off what i do, but to make it fit their world. well, this is sounding like its going to be very expensive for them. ;-) thanks for the help. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 16:15:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43E773BEAF; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=c11HPx0RlVQRZxas1lRRJvH7tH6r6qbwsgUe6H6Ffhc=; b=TP9cOQM5h32BxR3Tbk7ZPkkYaADV/0CpbtUbq2aWzIaMaT9Hy46MivBGGRdIqISRGW ZeTe+QWBe3Sx34R+CLB678K0IHRUG/OFmoTd7DVkklpx45aqVwKiQV/c7JbnF8LzFqI7 mobM5DOAvmkDK9tIgItXYTAt3r0elsOar/Tzs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=s7usrwOHgEeEKXZASEtm/oh3BgzaPFLpxP6rrViqjknLobeqVVdJO8mpw6kwPj4tHr qAQ+f7AF6IBxxEVjGpco/s748MplVCgaCxn5u6Q5zvtnTaQXbVu7c/W6/Jvx3OOWMq8/ gKuLP59xgYwVG1lvYCXe1hS1yZgQGbtw265dg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:09:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:15:18 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > thanks per.. i found that page in the global parameters > modes. > everything's on the left. does that mean they are unaffected? Sorry, I never remember such things. Either that or the other way. The GUI doesn't indicate which, so I tend to try it out every time... takes only half a minute ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 16:16:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 435A43BECF; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TniiSe8r6C4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Qzmi4bGaAAAA:8 a=BH9EZsYlAAAA:8 a=b8sYakTuAAAA:8 a=OUL8d-mYAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=I1RbrZMGwjdTEPP2yvwA:9 a=gQnqs8j74YVmf13OovYA:7 a=I2wbBSyQPRdCCj3tAb8susa3ndUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <2002AE2D-D02E-41A1-94D2-806D132E6259@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4CE52541.7090702@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: You Never Know What You're missing (Was Re: FOUND: Simple Multiple Sample Playback Software) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:16:34 -0800 References: <4CE52541.7090702@aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Hey Chris! Thanks for sharing all these links. You never know what your missing out on when you don't check and read emails that use terms that that you've already made critical assumptions about and dismissed as "not for me." I (who like to think of myself as a pretty creative and open -minded guy) have been guilty of this too often. I cannot tell you how many times I have passed by and not even **read** posts by people who put the words "Audio Mulch" or "Bidule" in their subject lines. I made all sorts of assumptions like "it's (probably) only for PC" or "that's all right for them, but I'm interested in _______ (fill in the blank with something else). To save time we all make "snap decisions" to keep up with the pace of or all-to-full and hectic lives - that's a basic fact of life for all of us. But sometimes our "snap decisions" are made on faulty information (I won't even go into topics like the recent US elections, but that's democracy for you). For the longest time I pretty much dismissed nearly **all** software posts because I was (as far as music is concerned) strictly a hardware guy - even though I make my living with computers and comfortable using them. But there are often so many messages in the daily flow of the LD list (which I have been on for 16 years BTW) that a person almost **has** to develop criteria to determine and read what's important and discard the rest. Today's example: I just read your post and checked out Audio Mulch and Bidule for the very first time. I was surprised to learn that they were available for both PC and Mac (I am strictly a Mac guy, in case I hadn't mentioned it). And, that they are surprisingly very Max MSP like (which I recently bought and am struggling mightily to "grok" and get up to speed on). This biggest surprise of all was that not only were these sort of "similar" products in concept, but hey give every impression of being much more "user friendly" than Max MSP. Anywho, I will have to check it out further of course. But I really wish I had paid attention to some of those earlier software posts and in particular to those posts mentioning these two products before I'd bought Max. Even if I did go ahead a get Max I would have known about other options. Audio Mulch in particular is giving me a mild case of Max MSP "buyer's remorse" frankly. I'd much rather be playing music than sitting programing - particularly at the level of typing in the arcane code and "lingo" of Max MSP. Sure, Max is "deeper" in some ways and you pretty much create what tools you make from it nearly from scratch, and thus it is totally "open-ended" - plus it is very stingy with CPU resources. But Audio Mulch looks like lots more fun (right out of the box). Is this a correct impression? I don't know. I may just have to try it at some point. Perhaps old loopers can learn new tricks. Thanks again. Cheers, Ted On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:08 AM, chrisrover wrote: > Thank you all for your input. Tallying up the results: > > Audio Mulch > http://www.audiomulch.com/ > > Bidule > http://www.plogue.com > > Soundboard > http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/soundboard > > Soundplant39 > http://www.soundplant.org/index.html > > What a community ! Thanks and cheers to all :-) > > Christian Rover > > www.myspace.com/christianrover From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 16:16:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77C6A3BEDF; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3HUvf4dZKHaq2emyQFF3ubumJZsaaspxMpSAdxZL2wM=; b=sQwOb24Yq3NAvg9urbc44XbVU7S6A0QSoLyRcHm2YrPfvlSvoYgqSvtiWY80ntkiXx h6xKegMkPDO20gH0dyoSo82hHNgSez6IGZMdfMnVFd215WL0siypFBHZZgV8ZmMnMa9j NwDk16bwmb2/0WWxlulgoqVz4KL1RquEhjmy0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L9swiCWWIItZp+TxEfU5qPlwjq54+NJv6+2z25dIB/gF28K7ROjG0HQlmKI5BB7Q/B 1Zwe12XxGvnYqYMAd1GV3Cnk9NROl3fDGD4r+gnwoxrc1YoNyuk9vSlMfVLBedsh2xN9 KMmDHZN+QEejGg8aci7nqqB6ZlMOjAn97sl4g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:16:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <68ZA5D.A.B0F.xFV5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:16:49 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> thanks per.. i found that page in the global parameters > modes. >> everything's on the left. does that mean they are unaffected? > > Sorry, I never remember such things. Either that or the other way. The > GUI doesn't indicate which, so I tend to try it out every time... > takes only half a minute =C2=A0;-) > I found just a time spot to open my Mobius here to check it out: Yes, the modes on the left side are "ignoring Secondary Feedback". Found at "Configuration > Global Parameters > Modes" Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 16:29:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 553F03BECC; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iRt9BdKY4N6j91uZCptSGCv+ifmIWvzhvWBs4UWlrKE=; b=fjCXvN4+WRJJAXsBnefTjuB1hawmEz/lahwmI3jTYBl2wXhZDol8dkdwTv1fJuowIR WAet/RiOUz2X/Rfk8ZQFfUkLwnbwKU/g8i2HW93XsSez8jVbq1363VzVNuFtpwyNUlUJ 37gyJ4FWosg6GAlL//44CZRMS37ywzW2c9b+o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=l3BBuIIbWyPErJbx1K2ytpeI1+kqv9tKWbi5wW0DzaMoKmmmKFnqtGXsnR3K9W2VV/ /pt+FHinLEW8sNZMX/qwiNiMudm3zvZxjbYHZRp1axLbG1zTQ/17QFZsfBqnZuqynf7l h7KQiZU1bqz7VSbNm82ShoAyKs1Pzb/RCUTO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3295F7D8-B0CD-4A75-91E9-1BB4F362AC7E@zoekeating.com> References: <3295F7D8-B0CD-4A75-91E9-1BB4F362AC7E@zoekeating.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:29:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: on a PC... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <4rs__C.A.XEG.kRV5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Well, at least you are lucky to be using Ableton Live, because it looks and works exactly the same in Windows and Mac OS. You can even open your Live Session from Mac OS in the Ableton Windows and all your set up signal path routing and MIDI addressing will follow (if your audio interface and MIDI interface are both Mac and Windows compatible... like for example the RME boxes are... I just happen to know because I use RME boxes and both Windows XP and Mac OS X with the same hardware and computer). The SooperLooper plug-in is OS X only though so you will have to replace it with Mobius VST. Mobius AU is buggy when using host tempo - and I think that is what you do? It shouldn't take too long to MIDI learn your pedals etc into Mobius. You also need to set up Mobius preferences to make it behave like you are used to from SooperLooper. If you post a list to the Mobius forum of your the SooperLooper actions I think people will suggest solutions. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > wow, pc vs mac....a touchy subject!! > > this gig is one of those high-profile 5 minutes during a keynote kind of > thing...everyone and their mother is going to be looking at what i'm using. > > i think i'll have to just recreate a version of my world on a PC. its > ironic, because they want me to show off what i do, but to make it fit their > world. > > well, this is sounding like its going to be very expensive for them. > > ;-) > > thanks for the help. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 16:42:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86F3B3BE95; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <0FE5A8DD-F75D-4DA2-A30E-969ACCE3B482@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: on a PC... Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:42:50 -0800 References: <3295F7D8-B0CD-4A75-91E9-1BB4F362AC7E@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:42:52 +0000 (UTC) thanks Per. this will be fun to try, with or without the corporate gig On Nov 18, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > The SooperLooper plug-in is OS X only though so you will have to > replace it with Mobius VST. Mobius AU is buggy when using host tempo - > and I think that is what you do? > > It shouldn't take too long to MIDI learn your pedals etc into Mobius. > You also need to set up Mobius preferences to make it behave like you > are used to from SooperLooper. If you post a list to the Mobius forum > of your the SooperLooper actions I think people will suggest > solutions. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 17:59:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A98B3BEA0; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/4RxXsVWnrOIIdl8djTSLrOwVTy+qOD0iv/GQk9Y7qA=; b=A5RM9o6z3yWqZceAHv8/3dPd+U1xo2+pjj5++FV3p0fTWTnmiKf/dmDIGRhhh+jRDB V161e9OYRVnMh0MZ6I0OxxwOBf91UYZdNgv5V12YzOxw7xxUsz3fOL1T3JRjfuGDbyad LtYNAfLH1aiCP8Y5pAiKKvyhlFUoh5AuDyNaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lCgxPP9RU7qL17YcmCSKimmIXd5KTNiflOXcqfTCmJEHd5cJwweiCTq1pbS/qryYSy 0Ghx3IsgqOuoCFn4Rh/T30mylEl0qKrcscZgiZSSyL8j/PEfGZcnMAnqtlDFMf0LqRWD V9LqFz1ysNPnML6hd6n8dJrNCbjuI9nAdQdxM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:59:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius question From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5c088cebc6a0495578b20 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:59:09 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5c088cebc6a0495578b20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i never really understood secondary feedback,how do you guys use it?is there an equivalent of that on the EDP? On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > ok - got it working!! > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> reading the manual, it seems as if i should have interface mode set to >> expert or stutter. i tried setting to both and still no change. man this is >> complicated! >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Simeon Harris < >> simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> thanks per.. i found that page in the global parameters > modes. >>> everything's on the left. does that mean they are unaffected? the text above >>> says "modes ignoring secondary feedback" >>> >>> i have secondary feedback enabled, but it doesn't seem to make any >>> difference if substitute is on the right or the left of the global list... >>> >>> sim >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>>> In Mobius preferences there is a page where you can chose what >>>> functions will be affected by Secondary Feedback supporting actions >>>> and what function will not be affected. >>>> >>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>> >>>> Per Boysen >>>> www.boysen.se >>>> www.perboysen.com >>>> www.looproom.com internet music hub >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Simeon Harris >>>> wrote: >>>> > another mobius question, i'm afraid >>>> > >>>> > if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so >>>> please bear >>>> > with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way that >>>> > functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the >>>> original >>>> > material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm >>>> right, then >>>> > i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondary >>>> feedback" the >>>> > prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback is >>>> set >>>> > low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set >>>> this to >>>> > min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is >>>> > replaced. >>>> > >>>> > again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up right >>>> somewhere - >>>> > any clues where to look? >>>> > >>>> > many thanks >>>> > >>>> > sim >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >> > --001636c5c088cebc6a0495578b20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i never really understood secondary feedback,how do you guys use it?is ther= e an equivalent of that on the EDP?

On Th= u, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>= wrote:
ok - got it worki= ng!!


On= Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@= googlemail.com> wrote:
reading the manua= l, it seems as if i should have interface mode set to expert or stutter. i = tried setting to both and still no change. man this is complicated!


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at = 3:49 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com><= /span> wrote:
thanks per.. i fo= und that page in the global parameters > modes. everything's on the = left. does that mean they are unaffected? the text above says "modes i= gnoring secondary feedback"

i have secondary feedback enabled, but it doesn't seem to make any = difference if substitute is on the right or the left of the global list...<= br>
sim


On Thu, Nov = 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrot= e:
In Mobius preferences there is a page where you can chose what
functions will be affected by Secondary Feedback supporting actions
and what function will not be affected.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Simeon Harris
<sime= onharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> another mobius question, i'm afraid
>
> if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so p= lease bear
> with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way that<= br> > functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the origina= l
> material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm r= ight, then
> i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondar= y feedback" the
> prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback = is set
> low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set th= is to
> min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is > replaced.
>
> again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up rig= ht somewhere -
> any clues where to look?
>
> many thanks
>
> sim
>





--001636c5c088cebc6a0495578b20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 18:06:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFD9B3BE86; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WhjByBBWyHQ2E0QwhoAb+JhtGq3wqabkvi+bc60Qoow=; b=K8D6jQcPyzYiBAFVQZkRmAvxA+ZMKT9K9Ju6oDDBK5p6Ari5gbRwEMIB3dcYgXpxnE T8xqZilmm0gFuiICNHFR9Mv3dsZTfeAdQjI09LvYdRZQ9R+PIlesq8WUSQDSZrevszHv D/W//ALaCSBakm2CKZpeJYT0HrPFi8NWqneIc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VvQ84CUb3NOVpHczH7A1gssIPRLc6mZOVAXl6Q+v2RQ1TRCo0hBCbCZwIzbREwBFsp 0LIM62ijlQrS1leCe4wpqp2Or3F5dVTw6K/Rrn1JdfLRQOU1Zwyz9EhG82nR8wkbKp4n cmJB3xOj7DeYqtxAtdqgqDdIBzioYz76wXoOs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:06:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:06:24 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > i never really understood secondary feedback,how do you guys use it? I use it to instantly work the level of old layers kept under a Substitute action. Always. It rocks! Recommended with the greatest enthusiasm :-) > is there > an equivalent of that on the EDP? Yes, in the alternative performance modes that you can reach when either connecting an external VC pedal or dummy plug to the jack on the backside panel. What happens then is that the knob on the front becomes the control for "Secondary Feedback" (borrowing the name from Mobius since there seems to be no specific term for it in "EDP-ish"). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 18:35:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC34A3BE98; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=P7CAJWFP3Ox+CgHQlGx9Ak/j/z6wsJ+1JzC5DkRX664=; b=slJgJ68Ok2g0GgP7DNFDccVqFUCJhMH++h2QGNDJoNbggd9Upe8DJovLA8w21RKBB4 8JpEYgY1sLgpGC0FkKgCACi3lXjB/ivu0kVuoLtb1m/GvQ0+D1/3eOvuF2tD0BCDKGWC +/hxGzVKS+ADcU2PFbel7kokjez3nowdiCQWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=azxqxC7fTB3bZ4MM/38R57I/a2YfqLXdSAcv0xhjTRF4Gcglej/Hlw84eRzf9AvR7F EGWjny3mZYvu6z4WnEYtiCs6T6jmYbvpVfYkCc0Yg3yYI1Ck6ZiM48TGwl+BlRMlYlan x+Hv0QhHN6ccdbtpIHJHGAAPhtjRcm0gmO4uw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:35:04 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175114f266470d0495580c87 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:35:15 +0000 (UTC) --0015175114f266470d0495580c87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well i got it to work by leaving substitute over on the left (i moved all the others over to the right) in the global > modes clicked on "enable secondary feedback" in the presets pane and selected "stutter" for the interface mode in the presets pane i set secondary feedback to about 90 and now it sounds great. i have a script to substitute every other 16th across one cycle. nice. sim On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > > i never really understood secondary feedback,how do you guys use it? > > I use it to instantly work the level of old layers kept under a > Substitute action. Always. It rocks! Recommended with the greatest > enthusiasm :-) > > > is there > > an equivalent of that on the EDP? > > Yes, in the alternative performance modes that you can reach when > either connecting an external VC pedal or dummy plug to the jack on > the backside panel. What happens then is that the knob on the front > becomes the control for "Secondary Feedback" (borrowing the name from > Mobius since there seems to be no specific term for it in "EDP-ish"). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --0015175114f266470d0495580c87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well i got it to work by leaving substitute over on the left (i moved all t= he others over to the right) in the global > modes

clicked on &qu= ot;enable secondary feedback" in the presets pane

and selected = "stutter" for the interface mode in the presets pane

i set secondary feedback to about 90 and now it sounds great. i have a = script to substitute every other 16th across one cycle. nice.

sim
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Per Boysen= <perboysen@gma= il.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.= com> wrote:

> i never really understood secondary feedback,how do you guys use it?
I use it to instantly work the level of old layers kept under a
Substitute action. Always. It rocks! Recommended with the greatest
enthusiasm :-)

> is there
> an equivalent of that on the EDP?

Yes, in the alternative performance modes that you can reach when
either connecting an external VC pedal or dummy plug to the jack on
the backside panel. What happens then is that the knob on the front
becomes the control for "Secondary Feedback" (borrowing the name = from
Mobius since there seems to be no specific term for it in "EDP-ish&quo= t;).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--0015175114f266470d0495580c87-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 18:47:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C861E3BE98; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: mobius question References: From: Jeff Larson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-413720938 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <07B3EFE4-9F2C-4A8E-80F1-51A88B4A2A9B@zonemobius.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:47:29 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:47:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9-413720938 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is one of several things I've been changing in the latest release. = The Interface Mode parameter is gone since only EDP users understand what it means, and all = of the functions are selected under the Mode tab by default. Jeff On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > ok - got it working!! >=20 > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Simeon Harris = wrote: > reading the manual, it seems as if i should have interface mode set to = expert or stutter. i tried setting to both and still no change. man this = is complicated! >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Simeon Harris = wrote: > thanks per.. i found that page in the global parameters > modes. = everything's on the left. does that mean they are unaffected? the text = above says "modes ignoring secondary feedback" >=20 > i have secondary feedback enabled, but it doesn't seem to make any = difference if substitute is on the right or the left of the global = list... >=20 > sim >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Per Boysen = wrote: > In Mobius preferences there is a page where you can chose what > functions will be affected by Secondary Feedback supporting actions > and what function will not be affected. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > another mobius question, i'm afraid > > > > if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so = please bear > > with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way = that > > functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the = original > > material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm = right, then > > i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondary = feedback" the > > prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback is = set > > low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set = this to > > min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is > > replaced. > > > > again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up right = somewhere - > > any clues where to look? > > > > many thanks > > > > sim > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-9-413720938 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
This is one of several things I've been changing in the latest release.  The Interface Mode
parameter is gone since only EDP users understand what it means, and all of the functions
are selected under the Mode tab by default.

Jeff


On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

ok - got it working!!

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
reading the manual, it seems as if i should have interface mode set to expert or stutter. i tried setting to both and still no change. man this is complicated!


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
thanks per.. i found that page in the global parameters > modes. everything's on the left. does that mean they are unaffected? the text above says "modes ignoring secondary feedback"

i have secondary feedback enabled, but it doesn't seem to make any difference if substitute is on the right or the left of the global list...

sim


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
In Mobius preferences there is a page where you can chose what
functions will be affected by Secondary Feedback supporting actions
and what function will not be affected.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> another mobius question, i'm afraid
>
> if i understand i correctly (and i've never been an edp user, so please bear
> with me), the secondary feedback parameter should affect the way that
> functions like substitute work, by controlling how much of the original
> material is kept underneath a substituted part of a loop. if i'm right, then
> i'm a little confused, because when i select "enable secondary feedback" the
> prerecorded audio doesn't drop in level if the secondary feedback is set
> low. if i turn it off, it seems to make no difference whether i set this to
> min or max - whenever i use substitute, all of the previous audio is
> replaced.
>
> again...it's probably to do with something i havn't set up right somewhere -
> any clues where to look?
>
> many thanks
>
> sim
>





--Apple-Mail-9-413720938-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 19:04:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C58653BEB9; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DMBACzVdvwzRZcQNss47VqyFcAwcYRn7Rrov+He6zFU=; b=PwCA6qi7xzZsgWjjiBHZ9Fn2TakP8/2Rl6iegv5Gy8GdnW53P06qYU5kWqJbgbRZ3u B0724PhcCccIxPBAPD3wkPwwuZYUKfIQ0THMN2ANkD4Ew0hAxKm/pM4EYHCc1BlXhCnY fibemAQn0tEqH9vS6B6ZG3+3HhWMXNxNffTYQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=r8rUJuna3lc3jvMHvacUD7iOzJ2Pqe9toxPWZyxqm/BVU4Q04El3zShbd0Ey8nonx6 LSpbjNznHOZ+ZgX367nXx/gR5EBBRHcZwQeSJlC31k0hHodwoIeiNi0FHvsz2lGGuEO8 ZsBzqWCkOI4FfmLqGibWzyVhPZ1ns5y72BsOo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <07B3EFE4-9F2C-4A8E-80F1-51A88B4A2A9B@zonemobius.com> References: <07B3EFE4-9F2C-4A8E-80F1-51A88B4A2A9B@zonemobius.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:04:07 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ae1e4322d70495587470 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:04:07 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ae1e4322d70495587470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 tidy On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > This is one of several things I've been changing in the latest release. > The Interface Mode > parameter is gone since only EDP users understand what it means, and all of > the functions > are selected under the Mode tab by default. > > Jeff > > --000e0cd6ae1e4322d70495587470 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tidy

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Jef= f Larson <jeff@= zonemobius.com> wrote:
This is one of several things I&= #39;ve been changing in the latest release. =A0The Interface Mode
parameter is gone since only EDP users understand what it means, and all o= f the functions
are selected under the Mode tab by default.

Jeff
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--000e0cd6ae1e4322d70495587470-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 19:05:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16D293BEC7; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=KUfxKxMSv997XoXkVkvssah3SHI3IFf0yvBoZNFBlyo=; b=UBC0FVxzMb4p2366CVkR6/Lhq3qz9YURgkLwaIHOY4H5FjcOhfVw3W3yXR1vvSYwQI eCwMqfMTjTfYKpVr446NPtxi5DNwvw0TB44eTyjJgPYLBPFjBqhPrYY8pYOd1BV0yA2t Pty/2SAMFs0rP/S+CNX1LViGKYozKEptxy4JA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=MCjlACKE9Ize4eP9dYamtlgZ30vaOAJCS4WHYfJtFk79sdSmM5Mt9+2jJbnRJ5XOZ9 mRozHQxD9XONVA1Rpb+8myHwehgf0Cogr4siPnT92tn7VyVAyvPfUkV9PnW/O4hBDIwI NU/nvCHbt2AY9pH504Ws3FlE0Z2aupgI6Ktas= References: <07B3EFE4-9F2C-4A8E-80F1-51A88B4A2A9B@zonemobius.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <07B3EFE4-9F2C-4A8E-80F1-51A88B4A2A9B@zonemobius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:06:27 +0100 Message-ID: <6652151420860726834@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: mobius question To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:05:58 +0000 (UTC) On 18 Nov 2010, at 19:47, Jeff Larson wrote: > The Interface Mode > parameter is gone since only EDP users understand what it means, Do we now??? Well i know what all the things do... But why they are called interface mode..? Not the foggiest... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 19:17:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39EF13BECD; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE57BAB.2030401@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:16:59 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Zoe Keating Subject: re: on a PC References: <20101118161518.A924C3BEC2@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20101118161518.A924C3BEC2@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1u2JdC.A.R2B.zuX5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Zoe wrote: > wow, pc vs mac....a touchy subject!! > this gig is one of those high-profile 5 minutes during a keynote kind > of thing...everyone and their mother is going to be looking at what > i'm using. > i think i'll have to just recreate a version of my world on a PC. its > ironic, because they want me to show off what i do, but to make it fit > their world. > well, this is sounding like its going to be very expensive for them. Jeez Zoe, Given that it's only five minutes, I'd also agree with whoever suggested that you use PC laptop running a single (or double) instance of Mobius, quite worrying about duplicating your entire setup and then be the wonderful musician that you already are and actually have fun learning how to use Mobius (which you'll get, basically, in 30 minutes of fucking around). It'll be fun! You can get across a lot in five minutes of playing whether you improvise or not and the learning curve of Mobius will be so fast for you. The impact will be made.......it will still be the Zoe Keating that we know and love and you can use the time you saved trying to duplicate your setup (which won't be possible or at least will be fraught with problems and headached) to actually write a new piece of music which, after all, is the reason we're doing all of this stuff, right? My 2 cents but I know that whatever you do will be well received. This must be a hell of a keynote speech for some very important people to put this much thought into it. can you reveal? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 19:22:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EB3D3BEE7; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=h0sRDeXb9U8U+SaN7MGCdkMXYhjeEfD4u2agvuIrhhA=; b=ZH1ckOa7pf0v+XjoVyzOkyITBo/6VjqRFJU5Vnzu9y0QweGgrv1/KmMPPtOt4hG2iv HnZHgiEWNRtiPtkq/+Gu7DSrOwJX8wxJlc/UAgRBFhxp7rgrC7CFzbiPwHZH3ZNWajiK LlLNiQttjYWEVSC7wB99LCW6Rhu5wPy3UOv+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=TGNPkaPZeJpvCAJ+M1xDQMbirBRvqEP4/K4UEigr1+yCDCTaDkSaluj3HJ4Ex1vVHU u/gvDVF8t0L7KMCCRyQC9VatFUxpzcxNg5QguH5GaGzKltegXTDNfzd7fFoUQ5SiCOYS XJWJY6cPk90uy7Gd+XJsVqCUjZxAGkDjER0lQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oE_46QIKmWaEYskMKsmqDOSSQDU Message-ID: Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice From: daniel To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367faf9d8c6f3a049558b5cb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:22:23 +0000 (UTC) --0016367faf9d8c6f3a049558b5cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey y'all, I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig. The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul Preacher and the MXR Custom Comp. Any thoughts? Thanks! Daniel www.ithinkwethink.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8D_DcPnso http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWU3q3AhA00 --0016367faf9d8c6f3a049558b5cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey y'all,

I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for= my rig.

The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul= Preacher and the MXR Custom Comp.

Any thoughts?


Thanks= !
Daniel


www.ithinkwethi= nk.org
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--0016367faf9d8c6f3a049558b5cb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 19:30:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D62873BEF4; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <07B3EFE4-9F2C-4A8E-80F1-51A88B4A2A9B@zonemobius.com> <6652151420860726834@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <6652151420860726834@unknownmsgid> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: mobius question Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:30:08 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Interface Mode mostly changes the way the input, output, and feedback knobs (and the feedback jack on the back) behave so in that sense it is changing the physical interface. Stutter mode is an odd one because it also changes the behavior of the Insert function. In Mobius, Stutter is just a normal function, secondary feedback is just enabled with a checkbox in the preset, and all the other control options can be accomplished with scripts if anyone was interested (and to my knowledge no one has been). Jeff On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:06 PM, mark francombe wrote: > On 18 Nov 2010, at 19:47, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> The Interface Mode >> parameter is gone since only EDP users understand what it means, > > Do we now??? Well i know what all the things do... But why they are > called interface mode..? Not the foggiest... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 19:30:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AA793BEDA; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iUGHl1NSjHDwlTfkQd4OioXWZKD9wn1Mu3SBvkN297E=; b=vIbTBomD611yLQB5s/i9Y4/KKtLaxZ3Y/crDLhhk5Lyzfpv1BNQ1/OwSqP0sVUal86 2X/artA3VckAEoaJD9lcNd67zqntF5cOi/mkKtuBLLqhJ5lZWgAhAg5PEu7kx9zkmKn7 ogmjHbdTukyoM38HiuMx5JrPCfDi5I8c+o9K8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TOyHdRlALIcx4nu4WjBSqBzmx6QEEUIk7HgaBRT3MTlPQy7XuBXoZRxS6LBD5WSOXC 6ReYJHAoy6dYQWOzC6E+vljgHAKeXS4CFPISXi+Ngpb6d/ImgSNzDAxPQwVvBzUDGzEs DlJicnd1OARKhARTeQC2T22NDIYbCA3rgjj8Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CE57BAB.2030401@cruzio.com> References: <20101118161518.A924C3BEC2@arsenic.violacea.com> <4CE57BAB.2030401@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:30:21 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: on a PC From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Zoe Keating Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:30:23 +0000 (UTC) For 5 minutes, maybe just use a single set (avoiding the need for scripts) and use Ableton's built in looper? For my purposes it's sufficient and lacks Mobius' learning curve. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Given that it's only five minutes, =A0I'd also agree with whoever suggest= ed > that you use PC laptop running a single (or double) instance of Mobius, > quite worrying about duplicating your entire setup and then > be the wonderful musician that you already are and actually have fun > learning > how to use Mobius (which you'll get, basically, in 30 minutes of fucking > around). > It'll be fun! > > You can get across a lot in five minutes of playing whether you improvise= or > not and the learning curve of Mobius will be so fast for you. > > The impact will be made.......it will still be the Zoe Keating that we kn= ow > and love > and you can use the time you saved trying to duplicate your setup (which > won't be > possible or at least will be fraught with problems and headached) > to actually write a new piece of music which, =A0after all, =A0is the rea= son > we're doing > all of this stuff, right? > > My 2 cents but I know that whatever you do will be well received. > > This must be a hell of a keynote speech for some very important people > to put this much thought into it. =A0 =A0can you reveal? > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 19:34:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 327C93BF17; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8rXF+LUwy5o5rWX9gSdlmbeYx9bT7t6qrfjFWZ5NVxo=; b=XtrBE8XVwoV9+EEwxEuUjr+LGO20mR7gAOCsrUQuUXxrmB/0moD++dOs7unqE+4GUo t+PmwHE++DyjvkalIswUY76qQG0gUKwiDMvoum9ENFTFAKiLoAww/nmpjXcPLgUzFZHj whsWW57Okpo/4c6cMQTXmPvhudXIi7PzZ4IC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=afP28Wn0DiKpgcZ5dqBsImLaFAxB80YcYmhRSJrw04hAEE7y2UDPStcfqugSaaBz8O aZ6utjV96FjZry/KpzlmAtoWpEDHQKUGeeOqVfWYBPyhFOLue8J5sgQ1ZvUvI3QxRtUw 3R2kesEwCxq1+MtYjIXiLRVkPYcVS58YNol4Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CE57BAB.2030401@cruzio.com> References: <20101118161518.A924C3BEC2@arsenic.violacea.com> <4CE57BAB.2030401@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:34:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: on a PC From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:34:38 +0000 (UTC) I can only think of one company where they would be willing to spend big bucks to make sure there was no mac on stage in any form during a keynote address. This same company has also coincidentally employed notable loopers like Robert Fripp and Brian Eno in the past. : ) Just speculating. I don't want to get Zoe in trouble. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > This must be a hell of a keynote speech for some very important people > to put this much thought into it. =A0 =A0can you reveal? --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 21:17:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15A393BED3; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_1290115046144100" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:17:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice X-Originating-Ip: 12.232.29.12 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101118211726.5463C77A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:17:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_1290115046144100 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello,=A0I would also look at the Black Finger Tube Compressor from EHX. I have one & it's fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone from Pigtronix. ----- Original Message ----- From: daniel To: loopers-delight Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500 Hey y'all, I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig. The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul Preacher and the MXR Custom Comp. Any thoughts? Thanks! Daniel www.ithinkwethink.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoK8D_DcPnso http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwWU3q3AhA00 Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter[IMAGE] --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com --_----------=_1290115046144100 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello,
 
I would also look at the Black Finger Tube Compressor from EHX. I have= one & it's fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone from Pigtronix.
<= BR>
----- Original Message -----
From: daniel
To: loopers-delight Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:2= 2 -0500

Hey y'all,

I'm looking into getting a compression pe= dal for my rig.

The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix S= oul Preacher and the MXR Custom Comp.

Any thoughts?


Tha= nks!
Daniel


www.ith= inkwethink.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoK8D_DcPnso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwWU= 3q3AhA00



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter

--=20

_______________________________________________
Surf the Web in a fas= ter, safer and easier way:
Download Opera 9 at http= ://www.opera.com


--_----------=_1290115046144100-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 21:19:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37B6C3BEE6; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:19:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:19:14 +0100 Subject: re: on a PC X-Originating-Ip: 12.232.29.12 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101118211915.02C8377A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:19:16 +0000 (UTC) Hello Zoe, Are you getting paid enough money to justify getting a PC for this show? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick Walker > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Cc: Zoe Keating > Subject: re: on a PC > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:16:59 -0800 >=20 >=20 > Zoe wrote: > > wow, pc vs mac....a touchy subject!! > > this gig is one of those high-profile 5 minutes during a keynote=20 > > kind of thing...everyone and their mother is going to be looking=20 > > at what i'm using. > > i think i'll have to just recreate a version of my world on a PC.=20 > > its ironic, because they want me to show off what i do, but to=20 > > make it fit their world. > > well, this is sounding like its going to be very expensive for them. >=20 > Jeez Zoe, >=20 > Given that it's only five minutes, I'd also agree with whoever suggested > that you use PC laptop running a single (or double) instance of Mobius, > quite worrying about duplicating your entire setup and then > be the wonderful musician that you already are and actually have fun lear= ning > how to use Mobius (which you'll get, basically, in 30 minutes of=20 > fucking around). > It'll be fun! >=20 > You can get across a lot in five minutes of playing whether you improvise= or > not and the learning curve of Mobius will be so fast for you. >=20 > The impact will be made.......it will still be the Zoe Keating that=20 > we know and love > and you can use the time you saved trying to duplicate your setup=20 > (which won't be > possible or at least will be fraught with problems and headached) > to actually write a new piece of music which, after all, is the=20 > reason we're doing > all of this stuff, right? >=20 > My 2 cents but I know that whatever you do will be well received. >=20 > This must be a hell of a keynote speech for some very important people > to put this much thought into it. can you reveal? > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 21:21:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 054383BEE7; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ml9uDfhH6DUl5I7yxa3Zta9ANFShE0w46GL94QI2pCs=; b=QtV1nPni56Tudbfw1ptispyZc8ibuoyhpGkBvMyLkxqoygxiOqzcofJq8Wjk56Bu7+ qEniglcSkuW9HOkJpuDQaCtTkSvWSXC8/pjbbUVI0mp5+bXRZ8YgsniQJiWYR56ElDnN ticVVFFnSQEgsuUMq2N68sIWFXy1GLaMdA8so= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=AuItY2lwz+CsiY7awhnXRcUbvldRdIiTQFZS+JsEapdoMe3OmDPjTg17WHi5e/bTeA kwzKnBxRV5GPbEtVSE54GBy0vMGkZCV9rKmamKZ9H6l7ENUFhNOKadc0zx13voYrBdIt xr4++/weielHmlHXhZwTQqUcROhYS7hAS3SGg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:21:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: How I lost my virginity as looper From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a203b9c14d04955a5f00 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:21:33 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a203b9c14d04955a5f00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEg0rlZAPfc -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a203b9c14d04955a5f00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3DKEg0rlZAPfc

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http://petrilahtinen.blo= gspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a203b9c14d04955a5f00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 21:40:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E09E3BEEE; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhgFAMIr5Uxg+I5h/2dsb2JhbACUVo4BwDqFSwSEWokMGg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,218,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="75554477" X-Previous-IP: 96.248.142.97 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: How I lost my virginity as looper Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:42:02 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Loved it! Seemed to suit the occasion perfectly. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 21:45:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCFBD3BEF8; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jdeMGhaB4FOFJSR9nklbQ0u6YfvLRzPsn+XLHzTsVdw=; b=XDmVaotwCW5hR43WewhbLjEg/YiU3dfTwfl7t+Y59L3ycI5G2tVzArtGZe3CYIoZbs sZAWKCjf6JBUS7QxuhMzmWys3RFg/3Q2HkvWm8Akft5MUDD7kEODq/qk4bGVh31dB0l4 zfj5i8m2/B3bB3pjWLK5GokHyGpp8ta9cRMwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j92ep2g3r2fmY9dEsFEnqzLQuLavsEg+alI/ZFx2qxTRT+NPisK+vkC9UldSJD6ryC 5uzj0+iJzxkeKzG+e6oj0Ree9QZlWvc+TFTlprx21GXtjVeEc0UtBIfVTDHooZi+/Rx6 9TZFXvv0lY4czCOpRtQZkIqlpDtJV6x1Q1jvM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:45:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How I lost my virginity as looper From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a6b960ae8904955ab523 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:45:30 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a6b960ae8904955ab523 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Jeff... My first solo gig EVER and first with looper... was nervous as hell ;-D 2010/11/18 Jeff Shirkey > Loved it! > > Seemed to suit the occasion perfectly. > > Jeff > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a6b960ae8904955ab523 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jeff... My first solo gig EVER and first with looper... was nervous = as hell=A0 ;-D

2010/11/18 Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@front= ier.com>
Loved it!

Seemed to suit the occasion perfectly.

Jeff




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http://petrilahtinen.blo= gspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
= http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a6b960ae8904955ab523-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 21:52:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BD133BEF5; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: How I lost my virginity as looper Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:51:57 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32843-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD5581F47D1913-2068-4301D@Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:52:11 +0000 (UTC) nice! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKEg0rlZAPfc -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert=20 Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead."=20 -Charles Bukowski- =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 22:08:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 414BD3BF02; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0EE0AEBD418F474EA252E88DD0132099@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20101118161518.A924C3BEC2@arsenic.violacea.com> <4CE57BAB.2030401@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4CE57BAB.2030401@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: on a PC Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:08:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:08:23 +0000 (UTC) ?Ditto on that Rick. PC's aren't the creatures painted up like Apple says. Period. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:16 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Zoe Keating Subject: re: on a PC Zoe wrote: > wow, pc vs mac....a touchy subject!! > this gig is one of those high-profile 5 minutes during a keynote kind of > thing...everyone and their mother is going to be looking at what i'm > using. > i think i'll have to just recreate a version of my world on a PC. its > ironic, because they want me to show off what i do, but to make it fit > their world. > well, this is sounding like its going to be very expensive for them. Jeez Zoe, Given that it's only five minutes, I'd also agree with whoever suggested that you use PC laptop running a single (or double) instance of Mobius, quite worrying about duplicating your entire setup and then be the wonderful musician that you already are and actually have fun learning how to use Mobius (which you'll get, basically, in 30 minutes of fucking around). It'll be fun! You can get across a lot in five minutes of playing whether you improvise or not and the learning curve of Mobius will be so fast for you. The impact will be made.......it will still be the Zoe Keating that we know and love and you can use the time you saved trying to duplicate your setup (which won't be possible or at least will be fraught with problems and headached) to actually write a new piece of music which, after all, is the reason we're doing all of this stuff, right? My 2 cents but I know that whatever you do will be well received. This must be a hell of a keynote speech for some very important people to put this much thought into it. can you reveal? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 22:27:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2D9E3BEE1; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hPkjIXJcA/+AjhTW/fHj6hYCmy0OJuc5R6yKiigI5ATT9rF66lYQ4XqFDPSMv1da; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20101118211726.5463C77A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> References: <20101118211726.5463C77A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:27:14 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-922003253==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec796117de65ca03d26dfd5e4180893d57bb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:27:23 +0000 (UTC) --============_-922003253==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I've got a TC Sustain+ for sale... it's magical. >Hello, > >I would also look at the Black Finger Tube Compressor from EHX. I >have one & it's fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone from >Pigtronix. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: daniel >To: loopers-delight >Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500 > >Hey y'all, > >I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig. > >The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul Preacher and >the MXR Custom Comp. > >Any thoughts? > > >Thanks! >Daniel > > >www.ithinkwethink.org >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8D_DcPnso >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWU3q3AhA00 > > > > >Mark Showalter >Minden Jot! > >myspace.com/folkstone57 >http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter > > > >-- > >_______________________________________________ >Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: >Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-922003253==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice
I've got a TC Sustain+ for sale...  it's magical.

Hello,
 
I would also look at the Black Finger Tube Compressor from EHX. I have one & it's fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone from Pigtronix.
----- Original Message -----
From: daniel
To: loopers-delight
Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500

Hey y'all,

I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig.

The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul Preacher and the MXR Custom Comp.

Any thoughts?


Thanks!
Daniel


www.ithinkwethink.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8D_DcPnso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWU3q3AhA00



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter


--
_______________________________________________
Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way:
Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-922003253==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 23:34:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5014D3BF05; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nvINfxaUd9m5qKNXKXm1f+b660HQliuG6GmU+dhCj6E=; b=rhJxbDf4rfi8VO/NxpFNL4qbIwWx7izja6ozWiqUSfaD7pvH4lxQKV7MBZOM6JO9Si ObPSbGtEIUQoKS3sE+Pi06gHi/g45Ys7hLx2Py6nWMK2sU/070AikVicfrndd6NJyQGX kHZ2QlxVJr4qzS1VRTyxs9F35LZ9Ir5v5sqG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QZZpx0bvMOnR+uZ5XreMRpKE5W9CvRq+zeSXxeUicRDM2wW0QXVPiGGR6+8hj/MF7x eOf+zC46Ts31bKXzbcI3DtcYk13LqgjR9EsaXOUErl7fJxT8a3RL0O4GRC8pB/TVqZuT WUZ8IlOrKUHMC6imHc6GvbKFLwqjKVFT1gOH8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20101118211726.5463C77A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:34:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba476b13c9eabb04955c3b4f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:34:41 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba476b13c9eabb04955c3b4f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Always wanted a TC, how much? J On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > I've got a TC Sustain+ for sale... it's magical. > > Hello, > > > > I would also look at the Black Finger Tube Compressor from EHX. I have one > & it's fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone from Pigtronix. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: daniel > To: loopers-delight > Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500 > > Hey y'all, > > I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig. > > The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul Preacher and the MXR > Custom Comp. > > Any thoughts? > > > Thanks! > Daniel > > > www.ithinkwethink.org > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8D_DcPnso > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWU3q3AhA00 > > > > > Mark Showalter > Minden Jot! > > myspace.com/folkstone57 > http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > > > > -- > > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --90e6ba476b13c9eabb04955c3b4f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Always wanted a TC, how much?

J

On= Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wr= ote:
I've got a TC Sustain+ for sale...=A0 it's magical.

Hello,
=A0
I would also look at the Black Finger Tube Compressor from EHX. I have one & it's fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone from Pigtronix.
----- Original Message -----
From: daniel
To: loopers-delight
Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500

Hey y'all,

I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig.

The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul Preacher and the MXR Custom Comp.

Any thoughts?


Thanks!
Daniel


www.ithinkwethin= k.org
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoK8D_DcPnso
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwWU3q3AhA00



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/fo= lkstone57
http:= //www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter


--
_______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way:
Download Opera 9 at http= ://www.opera.com


--=20

--90e6ba476b13c9eabb04955c3b4f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 18 23:58:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4EEC3BF01; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0EDEB143-339F-46F5-85E3-066BA8130057@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-432362648 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: on a PC... Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:58:11 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <70KsU.A.nZB.a2b5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:58:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-432362648 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Zoe said "well, this is sounding like its going to be very expensive > for them." I would definitley put the fastest most powerfull PC currently available (sorry me hardware caveman, not sure what that would be, but whatever the top execs at the firm are using*) as the first thing in your long and elaborate rider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rider_(theater) , or better yet, a big mainframe with a huge screen, like the creation station I bought from sweet water last year, and the necessary roadies to set it up and tear it down. A personal computer tech would be nice, Don't forget about the brown MnM's. I'm sorry you are forced in to this kind of position Zoe, there isn't much corporate work around compaired to the gravy days before the .com bubble burst, its a shame that what little work there is comes with such bizzare stipulations. Its hard to even count your blessings for having a gig when this kind of nonsense occurs. Corporate America , god bless their little pinheaded view. Bill (*smart money sez: they are using powerbook pros) --Apple-Mail-1-432362648 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Zoe = said "well, this is sounding like its going to be very expensive for = them."
 
I would definitley put the fastest most = powerfull  PC currently available (sorry me hardware caveman, not = sure what that would be, but whatever the top execs at the firm are = using*) as the first thing in your long and elaborate rider http://en.wikipedia.= org/wiki/Rider_(theater),  or better yet, a big mainframe with = a huge screen, like the creation station I bought from sweet water last = year, and the necessary roadies to set it up and tear it down. A = personal computer tech would be nice, Don't forget about the brown = MnM's.  
I'm sorry you are forced in to this kind of = position Zoe,  there isn't much corporate work around compaired to = the gravy days before the .com bubble burst, its a shame that what = little work there is comes with such bizzare stipulations. Its hard to = even count your blessings for having a gig when this kind of nonsense = occurs.  Corporate America , god bless their little pinheaded = view.
Bill



(*smart money sez: they are using powerbook pros)= --Apple-Mail-1-432362648-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 01:03:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 136CE3BEC1; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 01:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE5CCD8.7050101@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:03:20 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 01:03:24 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Dan Pound. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Lunar Effect" on Pound Sounds Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#nov You will also hear music from Chuck Van Zyl who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 5, 8 pm at the Nazareth Center for the Arts. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 01:57:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 905743BE98; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 01:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jZcYfePg2e8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=oHUSAe5HAAAA:8 a=3-Sb_OWIAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=tV4wji0pqq8nmeB4GIEA:9 a=LM-HBYxWwkOw6IAun9CSXWxm0H4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: How I lost my virginity as looper Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:57:13 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 01:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Very nice indeed. On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEg0rlZAPfc > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert > Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must > lead." -Charles Bukowski- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 02:53:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9ACA3BE92; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 02:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-442864910 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:53:13 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 02:53:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-442864910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Showalter sez "The Philospher's Tone from Pigtronix." This is my new best friend, this compressor is every bit the pedal the keeley is but quiter like the carl martin ( I currently own all three) and cheaper than both, tiny so you can leave it on and tuck it somwhere un-obtrusive. the grit control is a bit fizzy for me but works well as a spice when using another overdrive pedal, or when maxed with the sustain maxed. Runs from 9-18 volts, but not on batteries, comes with a power supply. If money was no object this is really getting me all hot and bothered at the moment: http://www.pigtronix.com/products08/philosopherking.html which combines their compressor and a fully functioning ADSR with expression pedal ports for swell and fade variation, has anyone discussed this before? I was wondering when someone would create a pedal like this, but then I probably haven't been paying really close attention. Bill --Apple-Mail-2-442864910 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Showalter sez "The Philospher's = Tone from Pigtronix."

 This is my new best = friend, this compressor is every bit the pedal the keeley is but quiter = like the carl martin ( I currently own all three) and cheaper than both, = tiny so you can leave it on  and tuck it somwhere un-obtrusive. the = grit control is a bit fizzy for me but works well as a spice when using = another overdrive pedal, or when maxed with the sustain maxed. Runs from = 9-18 volts, but not on batteries, comes with a power = supply.

 If money was no object this is = really getting me all hot and bothered at the moment: http://w= ww.pigtronix.com/products08/philosopherking.html
 which= combines their compressor and a fully functioning ADSR with expression = pedal ports for swell and fade variation, has anyone discussed this = before? 
 I was wondering when someone would create = a pedal like this, but then I probably haven't been paying really close = attention.
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-2-442864910-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 05:09:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F05583BE97; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 441 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:09:25 UTC Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Loren Claypool In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:02:00 -0600 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0462FD33-6A3A-4B9C-AE8E-9343EB8DCE76@theclaypools.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:09:25 +0000 (UTC) I've got a few in the pedal pile but the current fave is the Analogman = Bi-CompROSSor, a Ross Compressor clone on one side and a Dan Armstrong = Orange Squeezer on the other. All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 05:39:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28EBF3BE93; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=to+b3qIOnQPJ4TbDwTDGMFexaaTdMbs8Tr8Lx9/Efxk=; b=bO3r/XW1zGMvVNqLFNsxKkHaYmGxPHW5jgtgoKxpg7bho1q5r5z3sVdYlxfVyehswO kaaN2HjlMb77EbXcGqGOzXUi93APMi6yJIjvswPzVIohaZXz1klSrTWyeoYot1QfRZ4r Bg1nuZPRMaoQFSAgEc43vZJKGLfJ6tcyR8LXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qRoubyG1RJwv6vy2bNEReOvlGylzvAYr2w6g4zMlsizAcAd15IdDMmzL/UqYM0K3im FPj7+aLWmKM9EMwnvX9lBj63hlWVmapcDcQkRU3Nakg66UE7MPTP1mP165u8FurC73mq vWbh+nS67Vm0AXAtoGsQhsr7Cu9iJIdLYi89c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0462FD33-6A3A-4B9C-AE8E-9343EB8DCE76@theclaypools.com> References: <0462FD33-6A3A-4B9C-AE8E-9343EB8DCE76@theclaypools.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:39:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a4be2a4fd0495615480 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:39:39 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a4be2a4fd0495615480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Always on and first in my chain is a BBE Opto Stomp. Not an extreme pedal but I notice when it's off, very transparent and subtle. I also have fallen for the Tube Comp model in the M9 for more intense uses. peace out, Jeff On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Loren Claypool wrote: > I've got a few in the pedal pile but the current fave is the Analogman > Bi-CompROSSor, a Ross Compressor clone on one side and a Dan Armstrong > Orange Squeezer on the other. > > All the best, > > Loren Claypool > genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music > www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there > > > --20cf30549a4be2a4fd0495615480 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Always on and first in my chain is a BBE Opto Stomp. Not an extreme pedal b= ut I notice when it's off, very transparent and subtle. I also have fal= len for the Tube Comp model in the M9 for more intense uses.

peace o= ut,

Jeff

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:02 AM= , Loren Claypool <looper@theclaypools.com> wrote:
I've got a few in the pedal pile but the current fave is the Analogman = Bi-CompROSSor, a Ross Compressor clone on one side and a Dan Armstrong Oran= ge Squeezer on the other.

All the best,

Loren Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music
www.lorenclaypoo= l.com and links from there



--20cf30549a4be2a4fd0495615480-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 05:58:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD7033BE93; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iA8KarLLZs82kW5YcjqtPJChtb6RLTl9rYP3Jj2ubQ4=; b=E5i/fEaQP/UmwEl1rWnIai4o4ZstHqNbKDG77nPGRveZuheItIbYwTy7dREz+klhlH 56NGFbLhhPtwPssvaM9WttGk3bT1yLHNQtqm1nXd7DJ03145LJHPvowMpe8NM9ErYZE5 4ehUt0HEw9V+P55gblSHOxR5lhzrEf2LOVZVw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lrQKZ1TNyV0oqlg4lQMgwTWBbsZdDbfd8wYnD3ku4UQRjj1tjwv+tfvU6rxdOi4v2G fTPgFp6g71t2i3poBkKxz2kHLQLCXrPv4gdYWzejG6S6RlzsNcxGWWu/SIsDVaSEVNMG Jo0AjD0nb+6Nvnhu6MSXVl6jpHjyc64QP6TQM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 06:58:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How I lost my virginity as looper From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b80e493330c049561991a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:58:48 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b80e493330c049561991a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable coolage! 2010/11/18 Petri Lahtinen > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKEg0rlZAPfc > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " http://raulbonell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com --0016363b80e493330c049561991a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable coolage!
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--0016363b80e493330c049561991a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 08:14:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADF0A3BE8C; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=r8Q0g5wLXAxO/89laQlGOmsRDFvHDgluZobsDZlLxbA=; b=LFa4hTqIVtbKCxCcUsZKlZeCN91aetkhXeP26YaniL013W/PNO8gN8vr37wAUZo9BP K6agtvDnlk9w9HUNFZA43+QNOaF01MkjBVsHL4ramis8QK9rkw5aMKesGKb/DW7wlqz/ lKB3raZSoazEaUZG127aXlFXncMlL/WgJC73I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XSS5Dl73xlVnBCMyC1/2MvxCK4PvHAzwkn2XJzB6QcbiDClA8tLY6HVm4BQ9xkYfZQ 4KOrZToEuX00H7WXAN2ZMVDKs4RMQ/nxd5yOJ5A0eB6WP57sOcTuaJJclC51iJnjWLLQ XIYb+ltVNyXiR+KXwCOQSEji6LBxb/cZQGQYU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:14:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: OT ? Firewire cables From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b85448598e40495637d07 Resent-Message-ID: <5JGOtB.A.5SB.PHj5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:14:07 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b85448598e40495637d07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is anyone else having problems with Firewire 800 cables slipping out of their sockets? Someone (I can't remember who) mentioned Firewire "pro" cables that lock into place, but I can't find them. Can someone here lead me to them? Thanks - Doc --0016363b85448598e40495637d07 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is anyone else having problems with Firewire 800 cables slipping out of the= ir sockets?

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--001636c5a75ee838320495642a23-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 10:59:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5F843BE8A; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZENx5AkP4Amt42HEJinYuQ25PlWl/r55l3WEPdBR4rY=; b=CwHiBYe761obwHp2ADUPatVIv2DZ9TFR1YkNiDHzlRx4HPvWP/bgDQL+ij+FMrA6mc 0D2eVSHNv/thJu+SQVubk2IUoLZ3QfCmTV05EBGIqmfnTFj+2TfR4MCFMCwvcjKgWEuE AqMrCkEyXKH7nuuCAp4KpKQxBpdOG8Qt/US5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DiB5oEQvdirXvOw1WvH0x37JaaS4a66yGEAuZrH4lomTMoODp6HfltP6wBySzrIajV +Uq86dUR39rFZViM9VSRJ0CNfTY/ZOAAVkmfN2ulm6t6S06diGwD4a1un4rVLoDFVSjn VZXqbmhbxlEieDuY62p8I/cHLt6cxtp4kHB5M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 11:59:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Macbook drives From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:59:46 +0000 (UTC) I currently have a Macbook model 2008, the white one with 160GB disc and FW. I'm looking into options to expand my storage, make it less vulnurable and/or also use the external FW possibility as a backup boot device in case the internal drive should crash. a) Is it possible to boot OSX 10.6 from an external FW or USB drive? b) Is it possible to replace the internal disc with a SSD drive? -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 12:31:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1F273BE8C; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 532450633/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.2/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.2 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArABAGb85UxYbRIC/2dsb2JhbAAHlFHMC4VLBI1d X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,222,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="532450633" Message-ID: <4CE66E10.6090601@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:31:12 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:31:11 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > If money was no object this is really getting me all hot and bothered > at the moment: http://www.pigtronix.com/products08/philosopherking.html > which combines their compressor and a fully functioning ADSR with > expression pedal ports for swell and fade variation, has anyone > discussed this before? > I was wondering when someone would create a pedal like this, but then I > probably haven't been paying really close attention. > Bill That looks amazing. I wonder why they say it has a complete ADSR? a) it plainly doesn't have a Release control. b) Release makes little sense in the context of processing guitar signal. c) Who cares I want one anyway. Hey Bill, do you think that 2k treble boost and the 'grit' would be worthwhile in a DI setup? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 13:50:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E58D3BE8D; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=j5KY1CenjiTFE8XZfx6G1ss0NZ3Yu/TgpuNFMLpl10Q=; b=N7WTRGEQGYDRtj93jH0E+Lm+eg656fTW3ir+VPxDtZ1LIwB4b5N93R2hfo8nT4jdpF FA293zA8kxBktFOQLluLxaewYan0oTD0o0KJ9MhBkslFfFvpoQ1uke4EJCEg4nESqZGX RsdHjH14CTzAuSL2zq4Pyd+ZbiqyETdJXR4Qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XeFG0zHlWrBkLLyD1oKe6RstWOdlY0FjCpyVukv5KFf08aD+h0Cre8CT9qvC5xGYJ7 sLV6mMEULcJtCgFnxQK+pXp0+MHeJv3pZs5MEN7xlr7UHRARIeBUPxSZucrlKLflwObW tsBDAY7qsRcoRJi8qw7/49v4WtjlCcCrQuYrI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:50:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT ? Firewire cables From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <5Ax9fB.A.F2F.nCo5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:50:31 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Doc Rossi wrote: > Is anyone else having problems with Firewire 800 cables slipping out of > their sockets? I had that problem with one particular FW400 cable (not yet with the smaller FW800 plug). This was on an Apple computer that has the bigger jack and my guess is that the problematic cable was too heavy and dragged down/out the plug. Anyway, I solved it right there by using a different cable that is shorter and lighter. For Windows computers the manufacturers consequently uses smaller FW cables and jacks. If you are using an Apple box you might want to restrain from powering up FW devices by the FW cable and and stick with a dedicated power adapter/cable instead. This would be a safety precaution to avoid crashing or a system restart if the FW cable should slip out. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 14:03:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61B1E3BE8B; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YTFnLZyZvpBCks9ekwNFRAusJDz5Ri9UqsrQwh/I8/y3dNPfFF+/pZgf1G9k/1rp; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20101118211726.5463C77A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:46:46 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-921947082==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79ad96bda8fd17415299e5916566c6f50d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:03:35 +0000 (UTC) --============_-921947082==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Jeff, Here is a list of some of the gear I am selling. The TC Sustain+ is near the bottom of the list: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslutz-secondhand-gear-classifieds/387469-fs-api-telefunken-daking-ssl-d-r-valley-etc.html >Always wanted a TC, how much? > >J > >On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Charles Zwicky ><cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote: > >I've got a TC Sustain+ for sale... it's magical. > >>Hello, >> > > >I would also look at the Black Finger Tube Compressor from EHX. I >have one & it's fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone from >Pigtronix. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: daniel >To: loopers-delight >Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500 > >Hey y'all, > >I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig. > >The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul Preacher and >the MXR Custom Comp. > >Any thoughts? > > >Thanks! >Daniel > > >www.ithinkwethink.org >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8D_DcPnso >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWU3q3AhA00 > > > > >Mark Showalter >Minden Jot! > >myspace.com/folkstone57 >http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter > > > >-- > >_______________________________________________ >Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: >Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > > > >-- > >... >http://www.zmix.net > >http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > >http://albumcredits.com/zmix -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-921947082==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice
Jeff,

Here is a list of some of the gear I am selling.  The TC Sustain+  is near the bottom of the list:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslutz-secondhand-gear-classifieds/387469-fs-api-telefunken-daking-ssl-d-r-valley-etc.html


Always wanted a TC, how much?

J
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
I've got a TC Sustain+ for sale...  it's magical.

Hello,
 
I would also look at the Black Finger Tube Compressor from EHX. I have one & it's fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone from Pigtronix.
----- Original Message -----
From: daniel
To: loopers-delight
Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500

Hey y'all,

I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig.

The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul Preacher and the MXR Custom Comp.

Any thoughts?


Thanks!
Daniel


www.ithinkwethink.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8D_DcPnso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWU3q3AhA00



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter


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--============_-921947082==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 14:27:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94CBB3BE8C; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ziw8BAE9JqQEbQcsMTjsPQVQhu9fcfpJXISQ8pDHEb0=; b=pbeS8j9dgu7nynJt7QDjIIp/0dCVvsDaW+faywT/eRq4GCa8RXCzzVxI8V7f14koAj WtSXYWw1etlC4MbkqcR0aOoc8j2H2x8IHHC6k8Ofpk5RRAuj91+YFAx2UD/UFUIUzhZl Ebemqeloj3BiyymqbfROzVq03QEDvXfEMzAGA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VHlL/bAZF6gfpj7NDDhejxvHI9L6uxz8pdx30GyoXqWLnQPda5RKuSwwuzjB73AfA0 y5BOSJAVxI8qb1/S8I7NciqtNhpZgIKyZ/63pxppZUWRvQ+sAa1mkhZt12PeJuzZFpgq cpWhdifrSj363KYLQfY5ZR/XZ0J31OZy/mwVQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20101118211726.5463C77A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:27:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba613c10606c75049568b408 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:27:36 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba613c10606c75049568b408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't have sufficient privileges to access this page, ??? I am logged in so that link may be wrong. j On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Jeff, > > Here is a list of some of the gear I am selling. The TC Sustain+ is near > the bottom of the list: > > http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslutz-secondhand-gear-classifieds > /387469-fs-api-telefunken-daking-ssl-d-r-valley-etc.html > > > Always wanted a TC, how much? > > J > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Charles Zwicky > wrote: > > I've got a TC Sustain+ for sale... it's magical. > > > Hello, > > > > I would also look at the Black Finger Tube Compressor from EHX. I have one > & it's fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone from Pigtronix. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: daniel > To: loopers-delight > Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500 > > Hey y'all, > > I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig. > > The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul Preacher and the MXR > Custom Comp. > > Any thoughts? > > > Thanks! > Daniel > > > www.ithinkwethink.org > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8D_DcPnso > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWU3q3AhA00 > > > > > Mark Showalter > Minden Jot! > > myspace.com/folkstone57 > http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > > > > -- > > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > > > -- > > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --90e6ba613c10606c75049568b408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't have=A0 sufficient privileges to access this page, ??? I am log= ged in so that link may be wrong.

j
=A0

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net&g= t; wrote:
Jeff,

Here is a list of some of the gear I am selling.=A0 The TC Sustain+=A0 is near the bottom of the list:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslutz-secon= dhand-gear-classifieds/387469-fs-api-telefunken-daking-ssl= -d-r-valley-etc.html


Always wanted a TC, how much?

J
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazw= icky@earthlink.net> wrote:
I've got a TC Sustain+ for sale...=A0 it's magical.

Hello,
=A0
I would also look at the Black Finger Tube Compressor from EHX. I have one & it's fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone f= rom Pigtronix.
----- Original Message -----
From: daniel
To: loopers-delight
Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500

Hey y'all,

I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig.

The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul Preacher and the MXR Custom Comp.

Any thoughts?


Thanks!
Daniel


www.ithinkwethin= k.org
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoK8D_DcPnso
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwWU3q3AhA00



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspa= ce.com/folkstone57
= http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter


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--90e6ba613c10606c75049568b408-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 14:39:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E3463BE8D; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=DNxqu+IxEL8waDW1UdGLEnzbFYP+5r+ofsp/UEs8se/0xlq7YnrgIv8l0Hx8LBvc; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20101118211726.5463C77A631@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotuslive.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:38:53 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Guitar Stuff for sale (was Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-921944932==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79f5f8f00cad39eeafe2483e9b3f939f62350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:39:36 +0000 (UTC) --============_-921944932==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is a link to some gear I am selling: http://messageboard.tapeop.com/viewtopic.php?t=3D69213 Here is a small version of the list, just the guitar stuff: GUITAR STUFF GUITAR STUFF FOR SALE * Marshall 9001 tube guitar preamp WITH RARE FOOTSWITCH and CABLE! $250 * Blackface Fender Champ Mint..$550 * Blackface Fender Bassman 50 watt head ca.~ 1965. $550 * TC electronics "Sustain+ Equalizer" aka TC=20 Sustainer... rare rare rare and killer pedal (=20 Holdsworth, Torn, Frissell, etc.. )... $250 * Electro Harmonix 16 second delay reissue with=20 modified analog dry path (no aliasing or latency=20 to dry signal) 4 minutes of recording time with=20 varispeed and reverse! $250 ...SOLD....!!! * ORIGINAL SANS AMP in original box not the=20 re-issue (or 'classic' -aka reissue) but the real=20 deal.. $250 ...SOLD....!!! * ORIGINAL 1960s UNIVIBE with original speed=20 control Pedal - not reissue !! $ 1750 * ORIGNAL 1960s crybaby pedal - not reissue !! $500 ...SOLD....!!! * ORIGINAL FOXX Fuzz - Wah with blue fur finish.. - not reissue !! $500 * RARE ELECTRO HARMONIX POLYPHASE not reissue..=20 original owner, original box, never gigged =8A!!=20 $550 >I don't have sufficient privileges to access=20 >this page, ??? I am logged in so that link may=20 >be wrong. > >j > > >On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Charles Zwicky=20 ><cazwicky@earthlink.net>=20 >wrote: > >Jeff, > >Here is a list of some of the gear I am selling.=20 >The TC Sustain+ is near the bottom of the list: > >http:= //www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslutz-secondhand-gear-classifieds/387469-fs-ap= i-telefunken-daking-ssl-d-r-valley-etc.html > > >>Always wanted a TC, how much? >> >>J >> >On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Charles Zwicky=20 ><cazwicky@earthlink.net>=20 >wrote: > >I've got a TC Sustain+ for sale... it's magical. > > >>Hello, >> > > >I would also look at the Black Finger Tube=20 >Compressor from EHX. I have one & it's=20 >fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone from=20 >Pigtronix. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: daniel >To: loopers-delight >Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500 > >Hey y'all, > >I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig. > >The two I'm torn between are the Electro=20 >Harmonix Soul Preacher and the MXR Custom Comp. > >Any thoughts? > > >Thanks! >Daniel > > >www.ithinkwethink.org >http://www.youtube.com/watch?= v=3DoK8D_DcPnso >http://www.youtube.com/watch?= v=3DwWU3q3AhA00 > > > > >Mark Showalter >Minden Jot! > >myspace.com/folkstone57 >http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Show= alter > > > >-- > >_______________________________________________ >Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: >Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > > > >-- > > >... >http://www.zmix.net > >http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > >http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > > >-- > >... >http://www.zmix.net > >http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > >http://albumcredits.com/zmix -- =2E.. http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-921944932==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guitar Stuff for sale (was Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Ad
Here is a link to some gear I am selling:

http://messageboard.tapeop.com/viewtopic.php?t=3D69213

Here is a small version of the list, just the guitar stuff:

GUITAR STUFF

GUITAR STUFF FOR SALE

* Marshall 9001 tube guitar preamp WITH RARE FOOTSWITCH and CABLE! $250

* Blackface Fender Champ Mint..$550

* Blackface Fender Bassman 50 watt head ca.~ 1965. $550

* TC electronics "Sustain+ Equalizer" aka TC Sustainer... rare rare rare and killer pedal ( Holdsworth, Torn, Frissell, etc.. )... $250

* Electro Harmonix 16 second delay reissue with modified analog dry path (no aliasing or latency to dry signal) 4 minutes of recording time with varispeed and reverse! $250 ...SOLD....!!!

* ORIGINAL SANS AMP in original box not the re-issue (or 'classic' -aka reissue) but the real deal.. $250 ...SOLD....!!!

* ORIGINAL 1960s UNIVIBE with original speed control Pedal - not reissue !! $ 1750

* ORIGNAL 1960s crybaby pedal - not reissue !! $500 ...SOLD....!!!

* ORIGINAL FOXX Fuzz - Wah with blue fur finish.. - not reissue !! $500

* RARE ELECTRO HARMONIX POLYPHASE not reissue.. original owner, original box, never gigged =8A!! $550





I don't have  sufficient privileges to access this page, ??? I am logged in so that link may be wrong.

j
 
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Jeff,

Here is a list of some of the gear I am selling.  The TC Sustain+  is near the bottom of the list:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslutz-secondhand-gear-classifieds/387469-fs-api-telefunken-daking-ssl-d-r-valley-etc.html


Always wanted a TC, how much?

J
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
I've got a TC Sustain+ for sale...  it's magical.

Hello,
 
I would also look at the Black Finger Tube Compressor from EHX. I have one & it's fantastic. Also, The Philospher's Tone from Pigtronix.
----- Original Message -----
=46rom: daniel
To: loopers-delight
Subject: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:22:22 -0500

Hey y'all,

I'm looking into getting a compression pedal for my rig.

The two I'm torn between are the Electro Harmonix Soul Preacher and the MXR Custom Comp.

Any thoughts?


Thanks!
Daniel


www.ithinkwethink.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoK8D_DcPnso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwWU3q3AhA00



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter


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http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix


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http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

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--============_-921944932==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 15:23:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C74F23BE85; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=vxsBGNIp3nUEdI13C7LmNdLtgivTdmrJTBU9MboZiUM=; b=kGVwI3NC39py+w2k6RPCx22X1aY1CSybkYCKkNyJIgc9HuZkLZr95sHsYQt+crJ/ID biHb+EJiH8W+lI6j5cRY1Ybng+3PPb62BBPUECa7zkXgzFHZmGSjH6MDgz3A7a+C4vBy BEIxeESCcY8oJInNAP7KtptHlgPEJMyexe7mw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sppn87BUqwA7n+P6jWMCMsh4Wdcp/Gkdf/Ah5fTZ3W/77Zj1Xt5NPQ1aCQr1olpCAJ R+MDFBVnkohAquGa24YYivc0ADWyLDYgInQ9nRBpv8p+qccaLeUMro4m+Scur7uXCDCl 70VIrvhaeTxkcy9VxysBiLQuMP58HlxSw0e8I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <8A00D2D2-7509-431C-A4C1-E789058909B8@charter.net> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:23:02 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FLlIBi9fM6vT6G9h_6-tnLO_epI Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: looking for European couches to surf in November-Dec From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd95a9776bcd0495697b6c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:23:03 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd95a9776bcd0495697b6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Luis, Hi. First, let me apologize for taking this long to respond to your kind offer. As it turns out, there were business considerations that kept me her= e after all, so I was not able to travel. And I was a bit upset about that, s= o immaturely I just keep putting off sending out notes about it=85. It was very generous of you to invite me, and I will miss the opportunity t= o spend tie together right now. Perhaps sometime next year we will get to do so. And, please, if you are planning to be in the NY area, do look me up an= d feel free to stay with me if it suits your plans. I'm doing ok - just not quite great right now! Best wishes, Warren On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Louie Angulo w= rote: > No problem Warren just drop me a line privately and ill see what i can do= . > Ill be quite busy in november with perhaps a new job but weekends should > work. > cheers > Luis > > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn = wrote: > >> What a fantastic thing to be trying Warren. >> >> I wish you much luck. >> >> That's one way of turning a potential negative into a positive. >> >> Way to go! >> >> >> On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >> >> Hi to all, and especially European colleagues, >>> >>> I know that many of you are dreaming of Santa Cruz in October right now= , >>> but I'd like to distract you for one moment, if I might. >>> >>> My circumstances have suddenly changed in a way that leaves me with a >>> rare opportunity to travel on my own for a while (this is kind of a "if >>> you're handed a bunch of lemons, make lemonade" situation for me). I ha= ve >>> never seen much of Europe, and would love to meet some of you, play wit= h you >>> and see your towns. I expect to be ready to travel around the beginning= of >>> November and have not yet decided how long I will be "on the road." >>> >>> If you would be amenable to having me stay with you for a few days, >>> please contact me off-list and let me know. Also, if you'd just like to= get >>> together if I pass your way, but can't host, I'd still like to hear fro= m >>> you. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Warren >>> >>> >>> >> > --=20 Warren http://www.warrensirota.com Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --0016e6dd95a9776bcd0495697b6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Luis,


Hi. First, let me apologize for taking this long to respond= to your kind offer. As it turns out, there were business considerations th= at kept me here after all, so I was not able to travel. And I was a bit ups= et about that, so immaturely I just keep putting off sending out notes abou= t it=85.


It was very generous of you to invite me, and I will miss t= he opportunity to spend tie together right now. Perhaps sometime next year = we will get to do so. And, please, if you are planning to be in the NY area= , do look me up and feel free to stay with me if it suits your plans.


I'm doing ok - just not quite g= reat right now!


Best wishes,

Warren



On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 = at 3:17 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
No problem Warren just drop me a line privately and ill see what i can do.<= br>Ill be quite busy in november with perhaps a new job but weekends should= work.
cheers
Luis


On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.= net> wrote:
What a fantastic thing = to be trying Warren.

I wish you much luck.

That's one way of turning a potential negative into a positive.

Way to go!


On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Warren Sirota wrote:

Hi to all, and especially European colleagues,

I know that many of you are dreaming of Santa Cruz in October right now, bu= t I'd like to distract you for one moment, if I might.

My circumstances have suddenly changed in a way that leaves me with a rare = opportunity to travel on my own for a while (this is kind of a "if you= 're handed a bunch of lemons, make lemonade" situation for me). I = have never seen much of Europe, and would love to meet some of you, play wi= th you and see your towns. I expect to be ready to travel around the beginn= ing of November and have not yet decided how long I will be "on the ro= ad."

If you would be amenable to having me stay with you for a few days, please = contact me off-list and let me know. Also, if you'd just like to get to= gether if I pass your way, but can't host, I'd still like to hear f= rom you.

Thanks,
Warren







--
Warren
<= a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrens= irota.com
Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warr= ensirota
--0016e6dd95a9776bcd0495697b6c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 15:57:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 793D53BE8E; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE69E7D.5050404@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:57:49 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #711 for November 18, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6WJs9B.A.gF.B6p5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:57:53 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/101118.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #711 November 18, 2010. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Dan Pound. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Lunar Effect" on Pound Sounds Records. I also played music by Chuck Van Zyl who will be playing concerts in the area including the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 5. Visit the events page for details. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Chuck van Zyl Celestial Mechanics Celestial Mechanics (Centaur) Darren Rogers The Ancients The Ancients (Imagineer) mindSpiral Steel Crescent Curiosa Positronica (Earth Sunset Mantra) Conrad Schnitzler Disk 9, Part 1 * 10 kW/h (Ricochet Dream) and Wolfgang Seidel 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Dan Pound Phase one Lunar Effect (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Phase two Lunar Effect (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Phase three Lunar Effect (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Phase four Lunar Effect (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Phase five Lunar Effect (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Phase six Lunar Effect (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Phase seven Lunar Effect (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Phase eight Lunar Effect (Pound Sounds) Dan Pound Phase nine Lunar Effect (Pound Sounds) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Dan Pound. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Trance Meditation" on Pound Sounds Records. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 16:08:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB1FF3BE8B; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <26274400.3500511290182879446.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:07:59 +0100 (CET) From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: Massimo Liverani To: Subject: R: Re: OT: looking for European couches to surf in November-Dec Cc: wsirota@wsdesigns.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_319845_10824349.1290182879446" X-SenderIP: 85.47.237.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:08:02 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_319845_10824349.1290182879446 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi warren, consider you invited in Italy whenever you want, il live in Flor= ence, so could be a good idea to visit the city if you have never seen Flor= ence. Let me know in advance when you want to come and i'l find you a good = sistemation...maybe if you want you could stay by me, i have room for 2 peo= ple to sleep. greetings from Florence Massimo Liverani ----Messaggio originale---- Da: wsirota@wsdesigns.com Data: 19/11/2010 16.23 A: Ogg: Re: OT: looking for European couches to surf in November-Dec Dear Luis, Hi. First, let me apologize for taking this long to respond to your kind of= fer. As it turns out, there were business considerations that kept me here = after all, so I was not able to travel. And I was a bit upset about that, s= o immaturely I just keep putting off sending out notes about it=E2=80=A6. It was very generous of you to invite me, and I will miss the opportunity t= o spend tie together right now. Perhaps sometime next year we will get to d= o so. And, please, if you are planning to be in the NY area, do look me up = and feel free to stay with me if it suits your plans. I'm doing ok - just not quite great right now! Best wishes, Warren On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Louie Angulo = wrote: No problem Warren just drop me a line privately and ill see what i can do. Ill be quite busy in november with perhaps a new job but weekends should wo= rk. cheers Luis On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrote: What a fantastic thing to be trying Warren. I wish you much luck. That's one way of turning a potential negative into a positive. Way to go! On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: Hi to all, and especially European colleagues, I know that many of you are dreaming of Santa Cruz in October right now, bu= t I'd like to distract you for one moment, if I might. My circumstances have suddenly changed in a way that leaves me with a rare = opportunity to travel on my own for a while (this is kind of a "if you're h= anded a bunch of lemons, make lemonade" situation for me). I have never see= n much of Europe, and would love to meet some of you, play with you and see= your towns. I expect to be ready to travel around the beginning of Novembe= r and have not yet decided how long I will be "on the road." If you would be amenable to having me stay with you for a few days, please = contact me off-list and let me know. Also, if you'd just like to get togeth= er if I pass your way, but can't host, I'd still like to hear from you. Thanks, Warren --=20 Warren http://www.warrensirota.com Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota ------=_Part_319845_10824349.1290182879446 Content-Type: text/html;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi warren, consider you invited in = Italy whenever you want, il live in Florence, so

could be a good idea to visit the city if you have never = seen Florence.

Let me know in a= dvance when you want to come and i'l find you a good sistemation...

maybe if you want you could stay by me,= i have room for 2 people to sleep.

greetings from Florence

Massimo Liverani


----Messaggio originale----
Da: wsirota@wsdesigns.com
Data: 19/11/2010 16.23
A: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Ogg: Re: OT: looking for European couches to surf in November-Dec

Dear Luis,


Hi. First, let me apologize for taking this long to respond= to your kind offer. As it turns out, there were business considerations th= at kept me here after all, so I was not able to travel. And I was a bit ups= et about that, so immaturely I just keep putting off sending out notes abou= t it=E2=80=A6.


It was very generous of you to invite me, and I will miss t= he opportunity to spend tie together right now. Perhaps sometime next year = we will get to do so. And, please, if you are planning to be in the NY area= , do look me up and feel free to stay with me if it suits your plans.


I'm doing ok - just not quite great= right now!


Best wishes,

Warren



On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 = at 3:17 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.an= gulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
No problem Warren just drop me a line privately and ill see what i can do.<= br>Ill be quite busy in november with perhaps a new job but weekends should= work.
cheers
Luis


On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn <<= a href=3D"mailto:tedkillian@charter.net" mce_href=3D"mailto:tedkillian@char= ter.net" target=3D"_blank">tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
What a= fantastic thing to be trying Warren.

I wish you much luck.

That's one way of turning a potential negative into a positive.

Way to go!


On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Warren Sirota wrote:

Hi to all, and especially European colleagues,

I know that many of you are dreaming of Santa Cruz in October right now, bu= t I'd like to distract you for one moment, if I might.

My circumstances have suddenly changed in a way that leaves me with a rare = opportunity to travel on my own for a while (this is kind of a "if you're h= anded a bunch of lemons, make lemonade" situation for me). I have never see= n much of Europe, and would love to meet some of you, play with you and see= your towns. I expect to be ready to travel around the beginning of Novembe= r and have not yet decided how long I will be "on the road."

If you would be amenable to having me stay with you for a few days, please = contact me off-list and let me know. Also, if you'd just like to get togeth= er if I pass your way, but can't host, I'd still like to hear from you.

Thanks,
Warren







--
Warren
<= a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" mce_href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.= com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrensirota.com
Latest CD: Loops,= Live & Otw
http://www.c= dbaby.com/cd/warrensirota


------=_Part_319845_10824349.1290182879446-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 16:22:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7E473BE8C; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <91B6DD46-31ED-4305-A0C4-3737971B0B6D@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:22:01 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:22:07 +0000 (UTC) "That looks amazing. I wonder why they say it has a complete ADSR? a) it plainly doesn't have a Release control. b) Release makes little sense in the context of processing guitar signal. c) Who cares I want one anyway. Hey Bill, do you think that 2k treble boost and the 'grit' would be worthwhile in a DI setup? andy butler" I believe the fade function on the PK is the release and variable either from a nob, switch, or cc pedal control. I use the PT and my ethos together for my direct sound. Since the Ethos has a DI out with a cabinet filter it works great for me. I know you do some eqing to achieve a similar tone roll off so I would assume so. I use the grit very rarely and when I do its couple with some other kind of distortion. Again thats a taste thing Andy, I prefer my dirt to have a warm overdriven tube sound, and this is a bit more fuzz like, and seems to work best when its maxed or blended. Their Youtube demos are excellent BTW so you might check them out. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 16:36:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B81283BE8A; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3Damf4yjl2EZEgwik02HjRMlV4fVfeIVVJrRlbYImSM=; b=E6g6LJkhjZLCehFcyqTuCcg1nJozgo5iNMxPPEHRGdf7zXJKRP1Rj3Ql5B1Sy8JpP9 UScr3Fve5rMRoytBC8XRugfVaQXToZRzNf0XnIekCEstpgMp6ozFzR35dVX4HEJcOKs5 GYDlmnF5E4cBunv/v51WcJru8HtXWrHyBEV24= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=i1oQjp/333amzw4QBq77ajmqiGfB4F32I+CRfOr6ZQ8hOKdQh+brZ2Mlaf+JeYJS5w WzZEDWR4NN2JjndLU5tcZUUGjPZzIpsouz5RmkTaIQyY0OxaYZKWDxRE6aes733LPUAa wGX5Lru28bjWy3d7JFEa/Vbz6Q/8s7VhvtcbE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <26274400.3500511290182879446.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> References: <26274400.3500511290182879446.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 11:36:42 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FQ_-rHt4iJH9V6O_9MsgOAXfDTg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: OT: looking for European couches to surf in November-Dec From: Warren Sirota To: Massimo Liverani Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b067ef044d04956a8290 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:36:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b067ef044d04956a8290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, whoops, I didn't realize I was writing on list. Sorry to all, but thank= s Massimo - maybe I'll be able to swing this in the spring. Florence would be an awesome place to visit. If anyone else feels like writing (which I welcome), maybe off-list would b= e best. Thanks, Warren On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Massimo Liverani wrote= : > Hi warren, consider you invited in Italy whenever you want, il live in > Florence, so > > could be a good idea to visit the city if you have never seen Florence. > > Let me know in advance when you want to come and i'l find you a good > sistemation... > > maybe if you want you could stay by me, i have room for 2 people to sleep= . > > greetings from Florence > > > Massimo Liverani > > > ----Messaggio originale---- > Da: wsirota@wsdesigns.com > Data: 19/11/2010 16.23 > A: > Ogg: Re: OT: looking for European couches to surf in November-Dec > > > Dear Luis, > > > Hi. First, let me apologize for taking this long to respond to your kind > offer. As it turns out, there were business considerations that kept me h= ere > after all, so I was not able to travel. And I was a bit upset about that,= so > immaturely I just keep putting off sending out notes about it=85. > > > It was very generous of you to invite me, and I will miss the opportunity > to spend tie together right now. Perhaps sometime next year we will get t= o > do so. And, please, if you are planning to be in the NY area, do look me = up > and feel free to stay with me if it suits your plans. > > > I'm doing ok - just not quite great right now! > > > Best wishes, > > Warren > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> No problem Warren just drop me a line privately and ill see what i can d= o. >> Ill be quite busy in november with perhaps a new job but weekends should >> work. >> cheers >> Luis >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> >>> What a fantastic thing to be trying Warren. >>> >>> I wish you much luck. >>> >>> That's one way of turning a potential negative into a positive. >>> >>> Way to go! >>> >>> >>> On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >>> >>> Hi to all, and especially European colleagues, >>>> >>>> I know that many of you are dreaming of Santa Cruz in October right no= w, >>>> but I'd like to distract you for one moment, if I might. >>>> >>>> My circumstances have suddenly changed in a way that leaves me with a >>>> rare opportunity to travel on my own for a while (this is kind of a "i= f >>>> you're handed a bunch of lemons, make lemonade" situation for me). I h= ave >>>> never seen much of Europe, and would love to meet some of you, play wi= th you >>>> and see your towns. I expect to be ready to travel around the beginnin= g of >>>> November and have not yet decided how long I will be "on the road." >>>> >>>> If you would be amenable to having me stay with you for a few days, >>>> please contact me off-list and let me know. Also, if you'd just like t= o get >>>> together if I pass your way, but can't host, I'd still like to hear fr= om >>>> you. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Warren >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > Warren > http://www.warrensirota.com > Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota > > > --=20 Warren http://www.warrensirota.com Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota --001636c5b067ef044d04956a8290 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, whoops, I didn't realize I was writing on list. Sorry to all, but t= hanks Massimo - maybe I'll be able to swing this in the spring. Florenc= e would be an awesome place to visit.

If anyone else fee= ls like writing (which I welcome), maybe off-list would be best.

Thanks,
Warren

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Massimo Liverani <mas.liv@libero.it> wrote:

Hi warr= en, consider you invited in Italy whenever you want, il live in Florence, s= o

could be a good idea to visit the city = if you have never seen Florence.

Le= t me know in advance when you want to come and i'l find you a good sist= emation...

maybe if you want you could stay by me,= i have room for 2 people to sleep.

greetings from Florence


Massimo Liverani


----Messaggio originale----
Da: wsirota@wsde= signs.com
Data: 19/11/2010 16.23
A: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Ogg: Re: OT: looking for European couches to surf in November-Dec
=


Dear Luis,


Hi. First, let me apologize for taking this long to respond to your kind= offer. As it turns out, there were business considerations that kept me he= re after all, so I was not able to travel. And I was a bit upset about that= , so immaturely I just keep putting off sending out notes about it=85.


It was very generous of you to invite me, and I will miss the opportunit= y to spend tie together right now. Perhaps sometime next year we will get t= o do so. And, please, if you are planning to be in the NY area, do look me = up and feel free to stay with me if it suits your plans.


I'm doing ok - just not quite great right now!


=

Best wishes,

Warren



On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:17 AM, L= ouie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
No problem Warren just drop me a line privately and ill see what i can do.<= br>Ill be quite busy in november with perhaps a new job but weekends should= work.
cheers
Luis


On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.= net> wrote:
What a fantastic thing = to be trying Warren.

I wish you much luck.

That's one way of turning a potential negative into a positive.

Way to go!


On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Warren Sirota wrote:

Hi to all, and especially European colleagues,

I know that many of you are dreaming of Santa Cruz in October right now, bu= t I'd like to distract you for one moment, if I might.

My circumstances have suddenly changed in a way that leaves me with a rare = opportunity to travel on my own for a while (this is kind of a "if you= 're handed a bunch of lemons, make lemonade" situation for me). I = have never seen much of Europe, and would love to meet some of you, play wi= th you and see your towns. I expect to be ready to travel around the beginn= ing of November and have not yet decided how long I will be "on the ro= ad."

If you would be amenable to having me stay with you for a few days, please = contact me off-list and let me know. Also, if you'd just like to get to= gether if I pass your way, but can't host, I'd still like to hear f= rom you.

Thanks,
Warren







--
Warren
<= a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrens= irota.com
Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warr= ensirota





--
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com
Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw http://= www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
--001636c5b067ef044d04956a8290-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 16:49:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD5413BE8B; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6QpyZhf52dDEbyrZ5fU1kjDvOOzmhHCQyFKh22+hfkg=; b=SZmT8gidzE+2wVmYM5cowAB5CRS5B+9p0u2YRfU581Q4MOSkjKdNYMJSSqxEr8t7jA 6dA5cDh41bkfnwyWK7F+GX3tYg6re2R9DFKF1bUbKnWc56BvaXobBeyAftG1NRPxmMdX NMs6742v3GFOC5xFMDabCuY2ssR1mkJGeS+jY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hhODB7BpWj7Eo48biL90+7tPqAxuZSuV6Gz3IRupl9u7tf7UgPuGFQy5r0lxlVVEmy Yd/3d47wUNstPhi1+9Qz5Bg/HTYV44/YDpSEFaYAd6LzWBVeTwR32gTFtfozpNU4xAVj R3CAAXuvmnDIxxD/Dc5rS75XVZlLW26xX6WHQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003d01cb86f6$ed70caa0$c8525fe0$@asyouthink.com> References: <003d01cb86f6$ed70caa0$c8525fe0$@asyouthink.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:49:10 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ...speaking of PC... From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221504907788648d04956aafe3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:49:11 +0000 (UTC) --00221504907788648d04956aafe3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It all depends on how much you want to spend, and how clean you need it to sound. I'd say the lowest priced acceptable setup involves something like an M-Audio Fast Trak Pro, and a multicore Pentium machine. If you know how to build your own, go that route, save the money, if not there companies that focus on audio PCs. I'd focus on those, rather than trying to get a Vaio, Dell or HP laptop that will get the job done. I currently use 2 ADK pro Audio computers, one desktop and one laptop. Both are just over 2 years old, and I just upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit, they run like a dream, quiet, uber fast and reliable. adkproaudio.com They're great too because if you buy hardware through them, or any software, they can pre install everything, so when your PC shows up, you just plug things in and turn them on! Hope that heps at least get you thinking, if you post a budget, and project ideas, I'm sure folks would have fascinating software/hardware suggestions. Rafa On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:02 AM, CM wrote: > No corporate gigs here, BUT... > > I'm dipping my toes back into the looping waters. Current studio looping > setup is on an ANCIENT (P3!) Windows box with an almost-equally-ancient > Ableton version, running in play-only mode and synced to an Electrix > Repeater for live-looping. Looking to switch to a "modern" (i.e. this > century) Windows laptop sometime soon (should I still keep the Repeater??); > what's the applicable current/recommended hardware route to low-latency > live > laptop-based looping? > > (Feel free to point me to some FAQ if I missed this answered elsewhere -- > seems like it w/b a frequent question, but I've not seen it in recent > lurking). > > C > > -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --00221504907788648d04956aafe3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It all depends on how much you want to spend, and how clean you need it to = sound. I'd say the lowest priced acceptable setup involves something li= ke an M-Audio Fast Trak Pro, and a multicore Pentium machine. If you know h= ow to build your own, go that route, save the money, if not there companies= that focus on audio PCs. I'd focus on those, rather than trying to get= a Vaio, Dell or HP laptop that will get the job done. I currently use 2 AD= K pro Audio computers, one desktop and one laptop. Both are just over 2 yea= rs old, and I just upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit, they run like a dream, qui= et, uber fast and reliable.
They'r= e great too because if you buy hardware through them, or any software, they= can pre install everything, so when your PC shows up, you just plug things= in and turn them on!
Hope that heps at least get you thinking, if you post a budget, and pr= oject ideas, I'm sure folks would have fascinating software/hardware su= ggestions.

Rafa

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:02 AM, CM <listmail@asyouthink.com> wrote:
No corporate gigs here, BUT...

I'm dipping my toes back into the looping waters. Current studio loopin= g
setup is on an ANCIENT (P3!) Windows box with an almost-equally-ancient
Ableton version, running in play-only mode and synced to an Electrix
Repeater for live-looping. Looking to switch to a "modern" (i.e. = this
century) Windows laptop sometime soon (should I still keep the Repeater??);=
what's the applicable current/recommended hardware route to low-latency= live
laptop-based looping?

(Feel free to point me to some FAQ if I missed this answered elsewhere -- seems like it w/b a frequent question, but I've not seen it in recent lurking).

C




--
Rafa's One M= an Band Online:
http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
htt= p://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239
--00221504907788648d04956aafe3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 20:34:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6A803BE8A; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 20:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE6DF52.5020902@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:34:26 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: D-tar acoustic preamp mixer for sale in ebay germany ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 20:34:33 +0000 (UTC) I love my D-tar acoustic preamp............now everything I take with me (with exception of my M9 and Boss Pitch Shifter on the floor) fits in a four rack space soft case that fits into the overhead of an aircraft. That's a D-tar, Shure in ear monitors system, LP-1, Midi Buddy midi pedals, mics and cables. It's heavy but it saves me paying for another bag. It's surprisingly versatile considering that you can have both a line AND an XLR in each of the two channels, each channel with an insert send/return potential and a single Master effects and return. Given that there is both a Line out and an XLR out and also a tuner out gives me a lot of possibilities for not only sending to the house but also recording the output and sending a send to the headphone amp. This last is particularly effective because I can take the volume of the individual channel down so that the audience can't hear what I'm doing, yet I can 'audition' a part before I loop it or the audience hears. This is particularly effective when I'm doing a found sound improv where the original loop has a 'found' fundamental root note. I can quickly use my fretless guitar or my Sonica (60's ribbon control pitch organ that allows for rapid and radical tuning) to 'find' the scale (or quickly tune a couple of strings to the fundamental). With all the processing power in the Line 6 M9 I can make both of those instruments or even my voice using extended vocal techniques recontextualize into several different and interesting new instruments. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 20:42:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 586413BE8A; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 20:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE6E121.9090303@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:42:09 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: ADSR stomp box Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 20:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Bill mentioned the Pigtronix Philosopher's King pedal as being a dream coupling of a compressor and an Envelope Generator with an ADSR. I've always been curious why more guitar players aren't interested in having a fully functioning ADSR and wonder, does anyone make an ADSR stomp box pedal (in this case, without a compressor). The Pigronix does look really cool but I wish it didn't take up so much real estate (and I really wish I had more money to be able to afford it, currently). Any ideas? rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 19 21:25:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAE603BE8C; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=Tk7cOYysXYfScr0E+LLKKEbnuTHc0Zlag9N7WgPbwb0=; b=q07f8VyaHaQml3D/ckkXyrcScZ78aiKziVaK+Pf41RAC1Uek6S6KKhAw3AeQp2zto/ Py/LxP7am4m75gcY/70DA9GQ6IOY8s3NEo0nMRXQ+M0OMydCai0wGigDHBLLIqtlsD4I +ef4Fmrn1bGt/zh3AFHtBIPjD/HFGR2S8MJ+w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=W4nOwXXFcBXw9v7bOfoIvS6sc15Q28ELQin4PVeYOJlRK205+MV0KZLzynTrxWlAe3 hg6XoDtRXkC8SfFI1NgONBWO+sVOXyOjg6YAJ7rDkIzlx8I8Rg1jwOzYLTHtWN1GhKRv WJpk5qNkfncHPZ1XjoQRM2awxYtjsTtouGezc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4CE6E121.9090303@cruzio.com> References: <4CE6E121.9090303@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:25:27 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tISHfvM7l4DL0-67lzWIsycA1tw Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002215048febcbd43104956e8c8d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:25:49 +0000 (UTC) --002215048febcbd43104956e8c8d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I cant speak for the Pigtronix, and Im not sure of any specific ADSR pedals, I can say that my beloved Korg X911 guitar synth.. (oh where are you now, baby? Why did I ever sell you like a cheap whore, when you were the love of my life) could do this, it had a synth side and a "processed guitar" side,that was ADSR presets, with distortion and filter... twas lovely... Bit triggery tho... M On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Bill mentioned the Pigtronix Philosopher's King pedal as being a dream > coupling of a compressor and an Envelope Generator with an ADSR. > > I've always been curious why more guitar players aren't interested in > having > a fully functioning ADSR and wonder, does anyone make an ADSR stomp > box pedal (in this case, without a compressor). > > The Pigronix does look really cool but I wish it didn't take up so much > real estate > (and I really wish I had more money to be able to afford it, currently). > > Any ideas? > > rick walker > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --002215048febcbd43104956e8c8d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cant speak for the Pigtronix, and Im not sure of any specific ADSR pedals= ,=A0 I can say that my beloved Korg X911 guitar synth.. (oh where are you n= ow, baby? Why did I ever sell you like a cheap whore, when you were the lov= e of my life) could do this, it had a synth side and a "processed guit= ar" side,that was ADSR presets, with distortion and filter... twas lov= ely... Bit triggery tho...

M




On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at= 9:42 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Bill mentioned the Pigtronix Philosopher's King pedal as being a dream<= br> coupling of a compressor and an Envelope Generator with an ADSR.

I've always been curious why more guitar players aren't interested = in having
a fully functioning ADSR and wonder, =A0does anyone make an ADSR stomp
box pedal (in this case, without a compressor).

The Pigronix does look really cool but I wish it didn't take up so much= real estate
(and I really wish I had more money to be able to afford it, currently).
Any ideas?

rick walker




--
mark francombewww.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markf= rancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--002215048febcbd43104956e8c8d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 01:08:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 831FF3BE8D; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=x9ONIkMLUnGiaZDNtetJW3pcnmBH49oE1o5V8GfARng=; b=BoOBPpH8vDV82OI7NvWTc2PWRhduhG5DYmw0AkOqmLF7pV9YZImD2XkD7ftFGZ2EQT JgPhAqkWdt+UFmiVa2vuD343VpWIjuvUHhA3BtQkuophb9Y92wnxIwubFQWJ0XxPXCFO m5P/jMnRNFd7nYCcYK7tsZCAxiYEplP0ecTfQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=TiZaFF+WmKulgDC4tdujCUJBDcVJ3f6zFs/KrRSRxXpHdJFjHGWf4MvQEewMNwhTmD aHXFMujzzWGrD7p0JBobXnHaSoixgq7m/SggPbykCw6OTYKy/POVB4pX0MoXC8udVvSF XAbWOgK42am+V8tocIJ7wbJJLeOT//lE5hxqc= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: OT ? Firewire cables From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:11:53 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8C6A9717-4608-41A3-9289-2A8D09BD611D@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:08:05 +0000 (UTC) YES. They suck. But I've had much better luck with the cable that I have = that's metal rather then plastic on the outside ends.=20 I think there's just very, very little wiggle tolerance in that design = and plastic cable ends wear just ever so slightly, especially on a = laptop if you're right handed---it's in the mouse zone on my macbook = pro---and so it it starts to happen more and more. So I think it's the = newness of the cable rather then the weight of the cable, though though = it seems like being light would help with that too.=20 On Nov 19, 2010, at 5:50 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Doc Rossi = wrote: >> Is anyone else having problems with Firewire 800 cables slipping out = of >> their sockets? >=20 > I had that problem with one particular FW400 cable (not yet with the > smaller FW800 plug). This was on an Apple computer that has the bigger > jack and my guess is that the problematic cable was too heavy and > dragged down/out the plug. Anyway, I solved it right there by using a > different cable that is shorter and lighter. For Windows computers the > manufacturers consequently uses smaller FW cables and jacks. >=20 > If you are using an Apple box you might want to restrain from powering > up FW devices by the FW cable and and stick with a dedicated power > adapter/cable instead. This would be a safety precaution to avoid > crashing or a system restart if the FW cable should slip out. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 01:36:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CAE93BE8D; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3hEmqHa0+fBesj+iFZVTUckGLT+Htf8l2S6/fZBqQ4s=; b=ftBXYcSOdvt/UW2u7+wkKPk3uCN3NfocEc/MV+MgAwGw8aFFt7fc4duIlMweNEOMxv Vl9BZio79uNP0cOCC7fZFieFuOSAjU5ahvHyOHlSqyCe+E+tUV57jw6cEJeQIidSEEj+ ZOTcfCpT6xq+HPlYIk2MMw6kY9oIRyH+I5cok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kDAeHGo1pLIs5FpVHHCK0Tp95YItUzzLJ5S9HyIUFKK5c0bikEdm7BdFSm5rYuZP76 W2AAKVrKq2L5YyHGKYIcvJxD3GxgYhdcHdJEFRd/IOFd4hPcza838UTnzsrI7Jke79YS ZB0GM/FSZk4lVrEKLn5C3UK/ovOPG9mOeo4Ik= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 03:36:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How I lost my virginity as looper From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bd5f2fabda0495720d46 Resent-Message-ID: <6kQf9.A.YJD.cYy5MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:36:29 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bd5f2fabda0495720d46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for SO positive comments! Means a LOT, cause they are coming from this community! Peace, -Petri- 2010/11/19 Raul Bonell > coolage! > > 2010/11/18 Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKEg0rlZAPfc >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen >> http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp= - >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." >> -Charles Bukowski- >> >> > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.lumin= ada, > exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta= que > ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li u= na > agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " > > http://raulbonell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com > > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --001636c5bd5f2fabda0495720d46 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for SO positive comments!

Means a LOT, cause they are coming = from this community!

Peace,

-Petri-

2010/11/19 Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>
coolage!

2010/11/18 Petri Lahtinen <= aikuinen@gmail.com<= /a>>

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKEg0rlZAPfc

-- Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://pet= rilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://w= ww.myspace.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.= bandcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-



--
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella do= na que sense saber que estava il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he = pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s= =F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara,= o alguna cosa aix=ED? "

http://raulb= onell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com




--
Petri Lahtinenhttp://www.petrilahtinen.com=
http://petrilahtinen.blo= gspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/pet= rilahtinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
= http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--001636c5bd5f2fabda0495720d46-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 03:19:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 137123BE91; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 03:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE73E2C.8060701@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:19:08 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 03:19:11 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, November 20 at 6 am EST/GMT-5. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. You will also hear music from Chuck Van Zyl who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 5, 8 pm at the Nazareth Center for the Arts. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 08:32:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AFDC3BE8D; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5qh55h6Rc0MaSvrLIN4VcKISX4XvT3MI5NAH+m/hBzo=; b=taunEOICwYjKZW1QVm5H8o2hbcA/yQngFiLcjvsHMiOvY0+vf1DEX9gx7XkheSkKtb dQoYDt3irVmGQlCBYJL1iu5SKJwGyfhnIBKRTynjG8roRs6Nhmy5tjZ+esSMGYAS1MH0 ghZoMdOYjnH+7+sTn0ZcBwFJoU7VFvsXl9X3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LkgNmmVKN+veq7NeDQRgRxgAgJcT9pe/AuJT029ZTWttL43l3K8k89yGxSSjAzjBJD 8Py1i6IksJpV8WQFlRekVHOkY5V8hr5Snn3VwlEL2gwd5WSD7khCPn6qyJgpdoBx/Syp 9wI1qM8R407x+Kwtlgb303vctT26BI9gzyW2Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CE6DF52.5020902@cruzio.com> References: <4CE6DF52.5020902@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:32:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-tar acoustic preamp mixer for sale in ebay germany ! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5c08875d59e049577decb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:32:54 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5c08875d59e049577decb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanx for the hinsight Rick it is indeed a lovely preamp, is too bad i have to get rid of gear i love but i need the money so ill have to stick to my mixer sniff,sniff;-( Luis On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I love my D-tar acoustic preamp............now everything I take with me > (with exception of my M9 and Boss Pitch Shifter on the floor) fits in a > four > rack space soft case that fits into the overhead of an aircraft. > That's a D-tar, Shure in ear monitors system, LP-1, Midi Buddy midi pedals, > mics and cables. It's heavy but it saves me paying for another bag. > > It's surprisingly versatile considering that you can have both a line AND > an XLR in each > of the two channels, each channel with an insert send/return potential and > a single > Master effects and return. Given that there is both a Line out and an XLR > out and > also a tuner out gives me a lot of possibilities for not only sending to > the house but > also recording the output and sending a send to the headphone amp. > > This last is particularly effective because I can take the volume of the > individual channel > down so that the audience can't hear what I'm doing, yet I can 'audition' a > part before I > loop it or the audience hears. > > This is particularly effective when I'm doing a found sound improv where > the original > loop has a 'found' fundamental root note. I can quickly use my fretless > guitar or my > Sonica (60's ribbon control pitch organ that allows for rapid and radical > tuning) to > 'find' the scale (or quickly tune a couple of strings to the fundamental). > > With all the processing power in the Line 6 M9 I can make both of those > instruments > or even my voice using extended vocal techniques recontextualize into > several different > and interesting new instruments. > > Rick Walker > > --001636c5c08875d59e049577decb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanx for the hinsight Rick it is indeed a lovely preamp, is too bad i have= to get rid of gear i love but i need the money
so ill have to stick to = my mixer sniff,sniff;-(
Luis

On Fri, N= ov 19, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
I love my D-tar a= coustic preamp............now everything I take with me
(with exception of my M9 and Boss Pitch Shifter on the floor) fits in a fou= r
rack space soft case that fits into the overhead of an aircraft.
That's a D-tar, Shure in ear monitors system, LP-1, Midi Buddy midi ped= als,
mics and cables. =A0 =A0 =A0It's heavy but it saves me paying for anoth= er bag.

It's surprisingly versatile considering that you can have both a line A= ND an XLR in each
of the two channels, =A0each channel with an insert send/return potential a= nd a single
Master effects and return. =A0 Given that there is both a Line out and an X= LR out and
also a tuner out gives me a lot of possibilities for not only sending to th= e house but
also recording the output and sending a send to the headphone amp.

This last is particularly effective because I can take the volume of the in= dividual channel
down so that the audience can't hear what I'm doing, yet I can '= ;audition' a part before I
loop it or the audience hears.

This is particularly effective when I'm doing a found sound improv wher= e the original
loop has a 'found' fundamental root note. =A0 I can quickly use my = fretless guitar or my
Sonica (60's ribbon control pitch organ that allows for rapid and radic= al tuning) to
'find' =A0the scale (or quickly tune a couple of strings to the fun= damental).

With all the processing power in the Line 6 M9 =A0I can make both of those = instruments
or even my voice using extended vocal techniques recontextualize into sever= al different
and interesting new instruments.

Rick Walker


--001636c5c08875d59e049577decb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 08:47:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24C963BE8E; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vq9h26ahgq4HFRbSlX97Ml24nhWur5tW/IkHqMGt15k=; b=AsXletuF0vMnz1Xl6KQcyliTHNVkY+iRXfohXot2BP4qgBdromjTqGjRamVbxukCCY KEj1xFU/y5EDLVHrNnh+cwKAfkzEU+3yRGWUW2a8TSiGA4dJZhqspY8EYR/vNvqajTbY M9DlX7enXPFN4MyoZXruGYJvvltGh9PRr8W4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sJyB2Faf7fOpLwkJo4pTvQwk80yxHDSIrnrvIibppHUZQNJ/he6u+aw/+LuMynChXm CP7qYAFPe+DDLpOiCvV01aIV5Kf700N44bUoghS1RsyGHbBR0MiVIeYXaP5gpFOwCay8 s0/sD4klaIMaHzWqFT8FjrLYGN57AgscCUiwo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0EDEB143-339F-46F5-85E3-066BA8130057@baymoon.com> References: <0EDEB143-339F-46F5-85E3-066BA8130057@baymoon.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:47:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: on a PC... From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd8966df2a4e04957812d2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:47:33 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd8966df2a4e04957812d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 on the other hand you can promote live looping within the corporates Zoe! Luis On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:58 AM, William Walker wrote: > Zoe said "well, this is sounding like its going to be very expensive for > them." > > > I would definitley put the fastest most powerfull PC currently available > (sorry me hardware caveman, not sure what that would be, but whatever the > top execs at the firm are using*) as the first thing in your long and > elaborate rider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rider_(theater), > or better yet, a big mainframe with a huge screen, like the creation > station I bought from sweet water last year, and the necessary roadies to > set it up and tear it down. A personal computer tech would be nice, Don't > forget about the brown MnM's. > I'm sorry you are forced in to this kind of position Zoe, there isn't much > corporate work around compaired to the gravy days before the .com bubble > burst, its a shame that what little work there is comes with such bizzare > stipulations. Its hard to even count your blessings for having a gig when > this kind of nonsense occurs. Corporate America , god bless their little > pinheaded view. > Bill > > > > (*smart money sez: they are using powerbook pros) > --0016e6dd8966df2a4e04957812d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable on the other hand you can promote live looping within the corporates Zoe!Luis

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:58 AM, = William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
Zoe said "well, this is= sounding like its going to be very expensive for them."
=A0
I would definitley put the fastest most powerfull =A0PC currently a= vailable (sorry me hardware caveman, not sure what that would be, but whate= ver the top execs at the firm are using*) as the first thing in your long a= nd elaborate rider=A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rider_(theater), = =A0or better yet, a big mainframe with a huge screen, like the creation sta= tion I bought from sweet water last year, and the necessary roadies to set = it up and tear it down. A personal computer tech would be nice, Don't f= orget about the brown MnM's. =A0
I'm sorry you are forced in to this kind of position Zoe, =A0there= isn't much corporate work around compaired to the gravy days before th= e .com bubble burst, its a shame that what little work there is comes with = such bizzare stipulations. Its hard to even count your blessings for having= a gig when this kind of nonsense occurs. =A0Corporate America , god bless = their little pinheaded view.
Bill



(*smart mo= ney sez: they are using powerbook pros)

--0016e6dd8966df2a4e04957812d2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 08:49:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89E883BE8F; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2iNlZmAW7gRAAjEQqnp+EnmoCoOuW5od5+SaY4o2Mis=; b=vMNXY1b12q3kwiq67H+ZZx8P2QLxiK6ho+Q0nWxDXPYVKvr8qPzjiAYhWLUIXq0Elv TMYV4ApMAl9HAJuYImsLGCfM014OZtpzPppn5PPGpGnUB8NXB0k8GZURbKYw0nsj459k PVFqSmmoBFremRG8CBrWUxLDNOQUfJWOvdt3k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cST2/5urpj32VXspcPdcNbsqNGz7MJEgvIDg9kXuKx/GCGsrb2eY7ViSV+DPA+IxrW Th4dn6aZyu8vfX4TZCBwtaEnhcmT86r8/yLTbrtSslIkWtwQV6I1CdY/VuXl6VRNC/Fy eMO6lU9sf/g6RYsxl7cC5VuhUMUVWK3zsahYM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8A00D2D2-7509-431C-A4C1-E789058909B8@charter.net> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:49:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: looking for European couches to surf in November-Dec From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bfddeee208049578180d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:49:16 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bfddeee208049578180d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right on Warren thank you kindly as well! take care Luis On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Warren Sirota wrote= : > Dear Luis, > > > Hi. First, let me apologize for taking this long to respond to your kind > offer. As it turns out, there were business considerations that kept me h= ere > after all, so I was not able to travel. And I was a bit upset about that,= so > immaturely I just keep putting off sending out notes about it=85. > > > It was very generous of you to invite me, and I will miss the opportunity > to spend tie together right now. Perhaps sometime next year we will get t= o > do so. And, please, if you are planning to be in the NY area, do look me = up > and feel free to stay with me if it suits your plans. > > > I'm doing ok - just not quite great right now! > > > Best wishes, > > Warren > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> No problem Warren just drop me a line privately and ill see what i can d= o. >> Ill be quite busy in november with perhaps a new job but weekends should >> work. >> cheers >> Luis >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> >>> What a fantastic thing to be trying Warren. >>> >>> I wish you much luck. >>> >>> That's one way of turning a potential negative into a positive. >>> >>> Way to go! >>> >>> >>> On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >>> >>> Hi to all, and especially European colleagues, >>>> >>>> I know that many of you are dreaming of Santa Cruz in October right no= w, >>>> but I'd like to distract you for one moment, if I might. >>>> >>>> My circumstances have suddenly changed in a way that leaves me with a >>>> rare opportunity to travel on my own for a while (this is kind of a "i= f >>>> you're handed a bunch of lemons, make lemonade" situation for me). I h= ave >>>> never seen much of Europe, and would love to meet some of you, play wi= th you >>>> and see your towns. I expect to be ready to travel around the beginnin= g of >>>> November and have not yet decided how long I will be "on the road." >>>> >>>> If you would be amenable to having me stay with you for a few days, >>>> please contact me off-list and let me know. Also, if you'd just like t= o get >>>> together if I pass your way, but can't host, I'd still like to hear fr= om >>>> you. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Warren >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > Warren > http://www.warrensirota.com > Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota > --001636c5bfddeee208049578180d Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right on Warren thank you kindly as well!
take care
Luis

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.= com> wrote:

Dear Luis,


Hi. First, let me apologize for taking this long to respond to your kind= offer. As it turns out, there were business considerations that kept me he= re after all, so I was not able to travel. And I was a bit upset about that= , so immaturely I just keep putting off sending out notes about it=85.


It was very generous of you to invite me, and I will miss the opportunit= y to spend tie together right now. Perhaps sometime next year we will get t= o do so. And, please, if you are planning to be in the NY area, do look me = up and feel free to stay with me if it suits your plans.


I'm doing ok - just not quite great right now!


=

Best wishes,

Warren



On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:17 AM, L= ouie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
No problem Warren just drop me a line privately and ill see what i can do.<= br>Ill be quite busy in november with perhaps a new job but weekends should= work.
cheers
Luis


On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.= net> wrote:
What a fantastic = thing to be trying Warren.

I wish you much luck.

That's one way of turning a potential negative into a positive.

Way to go!


On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Warren Sirota wrote:

Hi to all, and especially European colleagues,

I know that many of you are dreaming of Santa Cruz in October right now, bu= t I'd like to distract you for one moment, if I might.

My circumstances have suddenly changed in a way that leaves me with a rare = opportunity to travel on my own for a while (this is kind of a "if you= 're handed a bunch of lemons, make lemonade" situation for me). I = have never seen much of Europe, and would love to meet some of you, play wi= th you and see your towns. I expect to be ready to travel around the beginn= ing of November and have not yet decided how long I will be "on the ro= ad."

If you would be amenable to having me stay with you for a few days, please = contact me off-list and let me know. Also, if you'd just like to get to= gether if I pass your way, but can't host, I'd still like to hear f= rom you.

Thanks,
Warren







--
Warren
<= a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrens= irota.com
Latest CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warr= ensirota

--001636c5bfddeee208049578180d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 10:16:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4A053BE8D; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=NkNn4DyfME4+h1/yoc06Wwcn6Ejweyqvie45cV47wJc=; b=UxRojPwxflOhbDtgHbmY2xEr3vTAydqzRBI975xvOR6rnd3y7dnJ1uhOc5LMck5JiY 8eZA/CSZ91uz9hdbGa+vifIm1KDlUTMTOZ5Dv//2CsplCGidclldXGud1hKFPQJEIVbl 8kp2sOhgMz8FpN1hFOLEkgvijoIknhKTCOcMs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=qndAmvIvr+0oyT0uQGz2Y88PNty3JYRx9pCh/qSZEylOjQgQgGyVs8J8EsYQpB71Cj CTQgM0aJc/DTx9B5eiSA1Yom56RUj6Ff8SZElUlxI38q80OHdk5aScmOwzx2R+CHrBRb EdKYsMPMIbaWwz/EYSecuRNE71Y1LEuJ2lNIk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:15:51 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dL0wgeqaoryAr5KQxuFTNj_dLzg Message-ID: Subject: OT: Bill Bailey (nice Saturday morning viewing) To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255759f6eb82850495794fb7 Resent-Message-ID: <_h0aRB.A.0OE.s_55MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:16:12 +0000 (UTC) --0003255759f6eb82850495794fb7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Probably old news for the UK readers, but have you all seen this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7-ikoXl5gc&NR=1 I just wathced the whole 6 parts with my son.. very entertaining, This link starts with one for Keven (Theramin) and gos on to a hilarious version of the William Tell Overture in Cockney style.. -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --0003255759f6eb82850495794fb7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Probably old news for the UK readers, but have you all seen this...

= http://= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DN7-ikoXl5gc&NR=3D1

I just wathced = the whole 6 parts with my son.. very entertaining, This link starts with on= e for Keven (Theramin) and gos on to a hilarious version of the William Tel= l Overture in Cockney style..

--
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www.m= arkfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkha= o.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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--0003255759f6eb82850495794fb7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 11:48:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CC5E3BE8D; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:48:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 535826622/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.196/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtIBAANE50xYbRTE/2dsb2JhbAAHlFrJfoVLBI1g X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,228,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="535826622" Message-ID: <4CE7B594.9060109@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:48:36 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box References: <4CE6E121.9090303@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4CE6E121.9090303@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:48:33 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > Bill mentioned the Pigtronix Philosopher's King pedal as being a dream > coupling of a compressor and an Envelope Generator with an ADSR. > > I've always been curious why more guitar players aren't interested in > having > a fully functioning ADSR and wonder, does anyone make an ADSR stomp > box pedal (in this case, without a compressor). I reckon that part of it is that guitar players tend to be ultra conservative, always looking to what established guitar players use and do. Also, it takes a certain amount of variation in playing technique to make a triggered effect work effectively. (then again, the same is true of distortion, so I guess it just comes back to conservatism). There are a number of Attack fx available, the most well known being the Boss "Slow Gear". The compression is actually necessary to make the ADSR (really an ADS in the Pigtronix)) work in any useful way. It compensates for the natural decay of the string. > > The Pigronix does look really cool but I wish it didn't take up so much > real estate > (and I really wish I had more money to be able to afford it, currently). > > Any ideas? In some ways it's much easier to use a swell pedal for a slow attack. Some nifty footwork, combined perhaps with an extreme compressor would get you plenty of scope for Attack/Decay/Etc. For the ultimate in low cost there's also playing techniques to get something close to a swell, and certainly to do the Decay part. (not on YouTube tho'). Another way is to use an Ebow close to a magnetic p/u, then the dynamics will go any way you want. (at the expense of fuzzy sound) andy butler > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 13:23:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 543CC3BE87; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsMFADZb50xHq+9F/2dsb2JhbACUYo4Du1OFSwSEWokS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,228,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="76218353" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <9FA390A6-F143-47D4-9E07-36C13FDD923F@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4CE7B594.9060109@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:25:46 -0600 References: <4CE6E121.9090303@cruzio.com> <4CE7B594.9060109@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:23:51 +0000 (UTC) ADSR=?? Attack Decay Sustain ??? Thanks, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 13:33:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 702CD3BE8D; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oqd/EPlvX6dOjjzcWI7ks/m5m8ZIZsSrIjg53xk3B6E=; b=h/SB2dOxWQFI8AWdlGFum2fMfT1T4wXcdG1+IyPI72P1pbizOyTXgQtgNriYJ/9V/O BsvJE1R0fJYABwe6lApLgJ2GIFa7dN/7HqllImJtMGxG7GNTjI0zNsLmqYiJSQgNXuM2 l4nwDfHeFxEEwG5N1qmWd01NoKor2NaHxMFHo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=N2E3Ax0TNEl/U1sTapd5l13rE3ec30WjUq0z9hIZe7DerQ02NblgsRRTAi51QVoa8g OKPr3/woHv46PRxAHNjRMq5zxFL7idBqqmYZXrYCn7BFK8hZAYef9W/aqo0ekBh+UFFk haxT/tO0wu+TEhuAjE3Bb+ucgyqSvE/tYbBvI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9FA390A6-F143-47D4-9E07-36C13FDD923F@frontier.com> References: <4CE6E121.9090303@cruzio.com> <4CE7B594.9060109@tiscali.co.uk> <9FA390A6-F143-47D4-9E07-36C13FDD923F@frontier.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:33:25 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1e70e47fcf704957c114b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:33:27 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1e70e47fcf704957c114b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Release http://ems.music.uiuc.edu/beaucham/software/m4c/m4c_intro_html/M4C_intro.ADSR.png On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > ADSR=?? > > Attack > Decay > Sustain > ??? > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > --000e0cd1e70e47fcf704957c114b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Release

http://ems.music.uiuc.edu/beaucham/softwa= re/m4c/m4c_intro_html/M4C_intro.ADSR.png

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrot= e:
ADSR=3D??

Attack
Decay
Sustain
???

Thanks,

Jeff



--000e0cd1e70e47fcf704957c114b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 13:40:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61C9D3BE8F; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:40:37 UTC Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:32:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <74902643.793609.1290259950609.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4CE6E121.9090303@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_793608_1584391749.1290259950609" X-Originating-IP: [174.62.174.204] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:40:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_793608_1584391749.1290259950609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Probably because it doesn't really seem to make sense when applied to a straight guitar signal. There's not a lot of "S" there and it's hard to imagine how you'd implement the "R". And then there's the problem of how to interface it with whatever effect you'd want to control with it, if any. Possibly the ADSR could be done with some kind of "enhanced Sustainiac" sort of thing, but a free standing stomp box doesn't seem likely. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:42:09 PM Subject: ADSR stomp box Bill mentioned the Pigtronix Philosopher's King pedal as being a dream coupling of a compressor and an Envelope Generator with an ADSR. I've always been curious why more guitar players aren't interested in having a fully functioning ADSR and wonder, does anyone make an ADSR stomp box pedal (in this case, without a compressor). The Pigronix does look really cool but I wish it didn't take up so much real estate (and I really wish I had more money to be able to afford it, currently). Any ideas? rick walker ------=_Part_793608_1584391749.1290259950609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Probably because it doesn't really seem to make sense when applied = to a straight guitar signal. There's not a lot of "S" there and it's hard t= o imagine how you'd implement the "R".  And then there's the problem o= f how to interface it with whatever effect you'd want to control with it, i= f any.  Possibly the ADSR could be done with some kind of "enhanced Su= stainiac" sort of thing, but a free standing stomp box doesn't seem likely.=

Chris


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick= Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <= ;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010= 3:42:09 PM
Subject: ADSR stomp box

Bill mentioned the Pigtronix = Philosopher's King pedal as being a dream
coupling of a compressor and a= n Envelope Generator with an ADSR.

I've always been curious why more= guitar players aren't interested in
having
a fully functioning ADSR= and wonder,  does anyone make an ADSR stomp
box pedal (in this cas= e, without a compressor).

The Pigronix does look really cool but I w= ish it didn't take up so much
real estate
(and I really wish I had m= ore money to be able to afford it, currently).

Any ideas?

ric= k walker

------=_Part_793608_1584391749.1290259950609-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 13:41:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 825AB3BE98; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=K1ISiMNAVuOFmFYfb/Iy0dheQJmaMlqj/Vty2QJPbs0=; b=Mp2F+Y6UO82sFUpudVvPVt927l5qBxzVk10Tesqsrz0h9Mt4L+95S7fpbVxTt+SeU3 gvPHWF/VQm7cHw5o1RpOq4+Y9lY/nbojCeuFwrPHuzl+KQ7PH9srsyQ2iLim0VX/zD2y DhfM0G+nyTzm8BZ53uTfz4P4UHowBT05j5WCU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=m+yrYwWXphZwNzaC7u513JNM7HWVqnD5bK7E6MBqgvErvNllnEKA5O/+/UNv5ue3pD IHK1u6+LiaArJbgMch3l6QYg29I9vnqxwGGp0a92tDyRytt8n7H0yqvrKbUlm3XzAYmE jWeqzWXLb2UQHboAF6EtK3M3OQh42mXAFxFjE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:41:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: mobius question-saving all From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6deea8c3cb0d604957c2ee2 Resent-Message-ID: <3P5Yi.A.PZH.MA95MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:41:32 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6deea8c3cb0d604957c2ee2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 H folks, I want to save everything i programmed in mobius,that is all the notes im sending frm my foot controller,presets,etc. i thought in the past i had done it correctly but i was not able to retireve them would you be so kind to tell me how i can do this correctly? Also ive done may recordings with previous versions of mobius and saved them all in a folder,then i reformated my computer and installed a new version of mobius but i cant seem to open them anymore are they lost? thanx a lot! Luis --0016e6deea8c3cb0d604957c2ee2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 H folks,
I want to save everything i programmed in mobius,that is all the notes im sending frm my foot controller,presets,etc. i thought in the past i had done it correctly but i was not able to retireve them
would you be so kind to tell me how i can do this correctly?
Also ive done may recordings with previous versions of mobius and saved them all in a folder,then i reformated my computer and installed a new version of mobius but i cant seem to open them anymore are they lost?
thanx a lot!
Luis --0016e6deea8c3cb0d604957c2ee2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 17:03:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EECC43BE8D; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Es+0x/SZJACci/yuCdVkoipdJLPEBQ4hbdMbV2MsPxw=; b=NwGVLPTmaJprLeEVog9cEi5J9b+CnN/8qOzPNIF4Nd07y7FKnjz1MEezmVTYUPyKz5 r3twmGDyz2dq6yLiPXqoEko1ekoUMCT65sM2W7n5fLMNYTP/H8Lk9+7F93/Lrvsebpky awyXNT3DEANDQ+tvTv0mp3V4eOLlSVt0l4b3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FlQRMZqxhYGY+ZsIIZKPi1o9X2wdITeqDGuBfj4NU2lgFt7CP0p6ENxAkkjVDqYZyT EzV/IdoBVj02n48bCByHAFfcGy2N3bzjfzM2f0NfNZjqrzbBNgX5/wgOHYHUpcYxm8q/ 2VDsDy+n3GozdwbDIce3aD8ku1PiiYvpJLNIM= Message-ID: <4CE7FF7B.8070006@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:03:55 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box References: <74902643.793609.1290259950609.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <74902643.793609.1290259950609.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:03:47 +0000 (UTC) So that's probably the "ultra-conservative guitarist" viewpoint you're mentioning here ;). Basically, I understand that Rick wants something like the envelope mode in my trusted TC Triple-C, which is some huge fun on any kind of signal, including (but not limited to) percussive sounds (i.e. sound without a lot of "S"). However, as Rick asked for some kind of ADSR without a compressor, I believe there's a reason that both usually come together. To make that ADSR effect, you need next to the ADSR generator a VCA-kinda thing and a threshold/envelope detector - in short, functions which a compressor already has, so it's easy to make it also work as a compressor. The aforementioned Triple-C, while not being a stompbox (as Rick asked), is, as I said, huge fun. In addition to the highly creative envelope mode, you can also run it as a fullrange compressor-limiter or multiband compressor-limiter combo. And you get a sidechain input (and this is where the ADSR function really starts to get fun). Rainer Christophe schrieb: > Probably because it doesn't really seem to make sense when applied to > a straight guitar signal. There's not a lot of "S" there and it's hard > to imagine how you'd implement the "R". And then there's the problem > of how to interface it with whatever effect you'd want to control with > it, if any. Possibly the ADSR could be done with some kind of > "enhanced Sustainiac" sort of thing, but a free standing stomp box > doesn't seem likely. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 17:09:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 034253BE92; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4CE7FF7B.8070006@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:09:16 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <772EEFA7-A1BF-4E90-8021-1479AF541344@grubmah.com> References: <74902643.793609.1290259950609.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4CE7FF7B.8070006@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:09:18 +0000 (UTC) On Nov 20, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > So that's probably the "ultra-conservative guitarist" viewpoint you're = mentioning here ;). > Basically, I understand that Rick wants something like the envelope = mode in my trusted TC Triple-C, which is some huge fun on any kind of = signal, including (but not limited to) percussive sounds (i.e. sound = without a lot of "S"). >=20 > However, as Rick asked for some kind of ADSR without a compressor, I = believe there's a reason that both usually come together. To make that = ADSR effect, you need next to the ADSR generator a VCA-kinda thing and a = threshold/envelope detector - in short, functions which a compressor = already has, so it's easy to make it also work as a compressor. >=20 > The aforementioned Triple-C, while not being a stompbox (as Rick = asked), is, as I said, huge fun. In addition to the highly creative = envelope mode, you can also run it as a fullrange compressor-limiter or = multiband compressor-limiter combo. And you get a sidechain input (and = this is where the ADSR function really starts to get fun). >=20 > Rainer Or how about an SPL Transient Designer? Not a pedal, however, and just = handling attack and decay which as noted without some source of = additional sustain is all that really makes sense. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 18:16:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B5DE3BE8C; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=AgcdZe5/hHcF/TWHfUxmKwGAGwpCIXTnaXnBonwUatU=; b=RNMycC5hNDxIoI5y2/DJ1BKxYsyvGiCelUxBH2FytjHCvXnEd1q0VsdQykm1+08VhN YCFNaPLK3dEJPjbNYpGhHWKsL8uNE1RuVRgLQFqIR0YQFM/oUw9f/14SWIvQxHUfcbdr iypo5pL/L6nIJosXgFIgYqtrnP0MjO2mjWgLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=EO83dUcKDOfMI+m1G5+EDid7IB1RXjBpF/snM6JPKIV6LzATkXXLVKSQm/iUly/K8R ++n3hfMbXX5Sx57CTtIQwF9UDvb+b8LaYdl5+TH7ObFJRhNf1q+vcvlaFtrdZmDlCdnn YGfQnLJOETI+1Miarf8I4AnurMioqKFhvHbEw= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: todd reynolds Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:15:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: a loop-shaped house To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174796487e230504958004df Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:16:11 +0000 (UTC) --0015174796487e230504958004df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://bit.ly/cBzQqk for my fellow loopers. I found it fun, beautiful, and a little respite from our usual techno-musical conversations which I enjoy so much. Cheers, all. Todd - --0015174796487e230504958004df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://bit.ly/cBzQqk

for my fellow loopers. I found it fun, beautiful, and a little respite fr= om our usual techno-musical conversations which I enjoy so much.=A0
Cheers, all.=A0

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--0015174796487e230504958004df-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 18:22:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D79AA3BE90; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hVT2uhpMZtBqkIKdt7quM8uuSC7g85J8CzFgeG3YyVM=; b=JAjDIer7UjFtjLI8HQoFgZ9FksNoFCL2QYtIUWywI0ytgYGo5t7+qgJM6iBcLZNp9S OMI0gFnsNWYr56k/2hlQ2woLxrehOk2vEXZZKKBP779B0k/m5axebBcv277jYr+EgpyK NeaABp9Ky8jtK/Hmmg4yX+gQwSgWKFO71CnJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xq5V44l9zeyTCJ2o20i2aPSOw8AjvDW9S0Z5lxOE+MtMDCMl5MKvGPgSEQrd5cdmYz FA3VW66m3x0dllLVNjFeBChC1P/1d70FbdW4E4524FPGIQwPb7Npm3E7SYN8tzhJlFKD VRcJLMd7roiQ2zmfoatYdajUQYdjfyNRlpegI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:22:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a loop-shaped house From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a8cfdafe930495801ae2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:22:26 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a8cfdafe930495801ae2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice one! 2010/11/20 todd reynolds > http://bit.ly/cBzQqk > > for my fellow loopers. I found it fun, beautiful, and a little respite from > our usual techno-musical conversations which I enjoy so much. > > Cheers, all. > > Todd > > > > - > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a8cfdafe930495801ae2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice one!

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--20cf3054a8cfdafe930495801ae2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 18:26:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30BAC3BE8C; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: a loop-shaped house Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:25:48 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32945-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD56F77CF2F547-27BC-11794@Webmail-d120.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:26:04 +0000 (UTC) SWEET! http://bit.ly/cBzQqk for my fellow loopers. I found it fun, beautiful, and a little respite=20 from our usual techno-musical conversations which I enjoy so much.=C2=A0 Cheers, all.=C2=A0 Todd - =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 18:41:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C57443BE8D; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE81653.8070403@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:41:23 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: lp-1 tricks References: <4CE6D950.5090302@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030503080304030909020004" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:41:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030503080304030909020004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *Thanks for all the thoughts. Yeah, I'm pretty good at setting up my Mackie 1402 or 1602 so that I can get maximum routing (and muting options) but this D-Tar is a lot less sophisticated (yet I can get it on an airplane). I'll have to experiment with the master effects chain. I have to look up whether it is pre or post faders. anyway, thanks for all the time you spent and your friendship. I hope I get to hear you play some day. who knows whether someone will step up and do the looping festival in nor cal again next year. there are some rumblings, but it's really time for me to redirect my energies to my own artistry after 10 straight years of tithing my time and energy to the looping community. I love it, but I feel like I'm running out of time to get the myriad creative things accomplished that I want to get accomplished on this mortal coil. Cheers, rick *On 11/20/10 5:53 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > well i don't have my lp-1 any more. i'm using mobius in bidule on a > macbook pro. but i used to use it with a rack mixer. i used to split > my dry signal into three streams. one went direct to the mixer and the > other two went to my repeater and the lp-1. the lp-1 was set to 100% > wet. the mixer had mute buttons on it, so i could mute the dry signal > completely. if you put the lp-1 into the master aux send of your > mixer, you could do the same, simply by dropping the fader where you > have your main signal going in. the aux send will be pre-fader, so > signal will still get sent to the lp-1. the lp-1 would be set to 100% > wet. i think the inserts would be pre-fader too, so no problems there. > i did use the aux sends in the lp-1. you can't alter the levels > directly, but volume control can be achieved further along the > chain...especially if you route them back to a channel on the mixer. > in fact having a slightly larger mixer would allow you to have main > signal on channel 1, lp-1 main output on channel 2, aux 1 output on > channel 3 and aux 2 output on channel 4. total control. i had my aux 1 > routed to a lexicon mpx-1, so i could further treat my loops. the > outputs came back to another channel on my mixer. i had a kaoss pad on > the fx send of the repeater too. again...it came back to it's own channel. > i never really use song form looping, so i can't help you there, i'm > afraid. many people do and some of them post on the lp-1 forum, so i'm > sure you could get some help there, if you feel you need it. i know > it's completely possible to get some quite sophisticated arrangements > going with the right string of commands. sounds exciting and scary - > hats off to you sir and best of luck with it! > > sim > > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Rick Walker > wrote: > > On 11/19/10 9:08 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >> cool. i can't remember how i stumbled on this...probably by >> accident, but it's a great technique. i think i usually used fast >> scramble and then did half speed on the loop to get the scramble >> rate i liked. >> >> because i split my dry signal and my loops > *out of curiosity, how do you route your LP-1? For my travel > rig , where I use a DTAR 2 channel mono mixer (mostly for space > and weight considerations) I have the possibility of using a > single master effects loop and then I have insert chains > potentially for each single channel. > Currently, I'm using the inserts to send and return from my > stompbox pedals (and M9 looper) > and then, probably primitively, I'm sending the final mix to the > LP1 and from there to the PA > > My brother says I should not do this and should use the Master > Effects loop to send to the LP1 > but I wanted to be able to have a completely wet signal if I need > it in the LP1. > > Do you have an opinion on this one? > * >> , it's easy to mute the dry part. you can have some fun creating >> loops where you can't hear what you're playing - especially if >> the loop is heavily treated with fx. i learned this tip from >> david torn, while watching one of his "painting with guitar" >> videos years ago. > > *Have you experimented using the Aux sends, out of curiosity? > I haven't even looked. Can you change the volume of each send > individually? > > It's funny, but though I use a lot of the features on the LP1 I > don't really know it > deeply. I'm just now wanting to use it to create coherent > singer/songwriter forms > so I have a bit of a learning curve to figure out what people have > done along those lines. > I've played abstractly for the last 10 years..........complete > improv always and suddenly, > I'm really hankering for song form, structure and melody in my own > work: writing my first ever singer/songwriter record (using a ton > of really simply played acoustic instruments--mostly because I"m a > neophyte on all of them). I'm simultaneously really turned on > musically and really scared and insecure (especially about writing > lyrics). I'm trying to force myself to grow through the stuff > that turns me on and scares me simultaneously. > It's going to be an exciting year! > * >> >> anyway, if you come up with some nice stuff using this technique, >> please post some clips, i'd love to hear what you do with it. >> >> btw - just read on facebook that bob has a new update out for the >> lp-1, so hopefully you guys will get some bugs fixed! > *Yeah, no kidding. This LP2 project and the fact that it's > radical delay this year (due entirely to the irritating people who > manufacturer the boxes he had designed who have held him > up for an entire year) has forced him to take on another full time > job (as well as raise his family of five) really put the LP1 > problems on back burner, but I know he's back on it again. > I've got some really killer rhythmic software additions coming > down the pike for the machine > and he's promised those ideas top priority for the person who's > helping him code now. > Stay tuned! > * >> >> all the best > *you too, Simeon! > > rick > * >> >> sim >> >> ps - watch the "reply-to" address if you don't want to go on-list >> >> *Wonderful technique, Simeon. >> For all the times I"ve used sus replace (I'm responsible for >> putting a version in the upcoming new LP-2 Mini Looper) I never >> thought of doing this. >> >> I suppose on a single song you could go to wet only in the main >> menu of the Looperlative >> to get the loop on it's own. >> >> I just love recontextualizing random and then bending it to one's >> own will ---- >> muaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa! >> >> take care, and thanks for the tip. >> >> Rick Walker* > > *Thanks* --------------030503080304030909020004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all the thoughts.
Yeah,  I'm pretty good at setting up my Mackie 1402 or 1602 so that I can get maximum
routing (and muting options) but this D-Tar is a lot less sophisticated (yet I can get it on
an airplane).

I'll have to experiment with the master effects chain.   I have to look up whether it is pre or post faders.

anyway, thanks for all the time you spent and your friendship.  I hope I get to hear you play some day.

who knows whether someone will step up and do the looping festival in nor cal again next year.
   there are some rumblings, but it's really time for me to redirect my energies to my own artistry after 10 straight years of tithing my time and energy to the looping community.

I love it, but I feel like I'm running out of time to get the myriad creative things accomplished that I want to get accomplished on this mortal coil.

Cheers,   rick

On 11/20/10 5:53 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
well i don't have my lp-1 any more. i'm using mobius in bidule on a macbook pro. but i used to use it with a rack mixer. i used to split my dry signal into three streams. one went direct to the mixer and the other two went to my repeater and the lp-1. the lp-1 was set to 100% wet. the mixer had mute buttons on it, so i could mute the dry signal completely. if you put the lp-1 into the master aux send of your mixer, you could do the same, simply by dropping the fader where you have your main signal going in. the aux send will be pre-fader, so signal will still get sent to the lp-1. the lp-1 would be set to 100% wet. i think the inserts would be pre-fader too, so no problems there.
i did use the aux sends in the lp-1. you can't alter the levels directly, but volume control can be achieved further along the chain...especially if you route them back to a channel on the mixer. in fact having a slightly larger mixer would allow you to have main signal on channel 1, lp-1 main output on channel 2, aux 1 output on channel 3 and aux 2 output on channel 4. total control. i had my aux 1 routed to a lexicon mpx-1, so i could further treat my loops. the outputs came back to another channel on my mixer. i had a kaoss pad on the fx send of the repeater too. again...it came back to it's own channel.
i never really use song form looping, so i can't help you there, i'm afraid. many people do and some of them post on the lp-1 forum, so i'm sure you could get some help there, if you feel you need it. i know it's completely possible to get some quite sophisticated arrangements going with the right string of commands. sounds exciting and scary - hats off to you sir and best of luck with it!

sim



On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 11/19/10 9:08 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
cool. i can't remember how i stumbled on this...probably by accident, but it's a great technique. i think i usually used fast scramble and then did half speed on the loop to get the scramble rate i liked.

because i split my dry signal and my loops
out of curiosity,  how do you route your LP-1?     For my travel rig , where I use a DTAR 2 channel mono mixer (mostly for space and weight considerations)  I have the possibility of using a single master effects loop and then I have insert chains potentially for each single channel.
Currently, I'm using the inserts to send and return from my stompbox pedals (and M9 looper)
and then, probably primitively, I'm sending the final mix to the LP1 and from there to the PA

My brother says I should not do this and should use the Master Effects loop to send to the LP1
but I wanted to be able to have a completely wet signal if I need it in the LP1.

Do you have an opinion on this one?
, it's easy to mute the dry part. you can have some fun creating loops where you can't hear what you're playing - especially if the loop is heavily treated with fx. i learned this tip from david torn, while watching one of his "painting with guitar" videos years ago.

Have you experimented using the Aux sends, out of curiosity?
I haven't even looked.   Can you change the volume of each send individually?

It's funny, but though I use a lot of the features on the LP1 I don't really know it
deeply.   I'm just now wanting to use it to create coherent singer/songwriter forms
so I have a bit of a learning curve to figure out what people have done along those lines.
I've played abstractly for the last 10 years..........complete improv always and suddenly,
I'm really hankering for song form, structure and melody in my own work:  writing my first ever singer/songwriter record (using a ton of really simply played acoustic instruments--mostly because I"m a neophyte on all of them).    I'm simultaneously really turned on musically and really scared and insecure (especially about writing lyrics).    I'm trying to force myself to grow through the stuff that turns me on and scares me simultaneously.
It's going to be an exciting year!

anyway, if you come up with some nice stuff using this technique, please post some clips, i'd love to hear what you do with it.

btw - just read on facebook that bob has a new update out for the lp-1, so hopefully you guys will get some bugs fixed!
Yeah, no kidding.  This LP2 project and the fact that it's radical delay this year (due entirely to the irritating people who manufacturer the boxes he had designed who have held him
up for an entire year) has forced him to take on another full time job (as well as raise his family of five) really put the LP1 problems on back burner, but I know he's back on it again.
I've got some really killer rhythmic software additions coming down the pike for the machine
and he's promised those ideas top priority for the person who's helping him code now.
Stay tuned!

all the best
you too, Simeon!

rick

sim

ps - watch the "reply-to" address if you don't want to go on-list

Wonderful technique, Simeon.
For all the times I"ve used sus replace (I'm responsible for putting a version in the upcoming new LP-2 Mini Looper) I never thought of doing this.

I suppose on a single song you could go to wet only in the main menu of the Looperlative
to get the loop on it's own.

I just love recontextualizing random and then bending it to one's own will ----
muaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa!

take care, and thanks for the tip.

Rick Walker


Thanks
--------------030503080304030909020004-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 18:58:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 547153BE91; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0408D19DF82E40EEA305ECC6DCFB2EA3@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4CE6D950.5090302@cruzio.com> <4CE81653.8070403@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4CE81653.8070403@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: lp-1 tricks Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:58:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01CB88E4.F1026C60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:58:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CB88E4.F1026C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BFRick, As a Mackie 1202vlz owner I=E2=80=99m intrigued =E2=80=93 how do you get = maximum routing out of it, if I might ask? From: Rick Walker=20 Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:41 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: lp-1 tricks Thanks for all the thoughts. Yeah, I'm pretty good at setting up my Mackie 1402 or 1602 so that I = can get maximum=20 routing (and muting options) but this D-Tar is a lot less sophisticated = (yet I can get it on=20 an airplane). I'll have to experiment with the master effects chain. I have to look = up whether it is pre or post faders. anyway, thanks for all the time you spent and your friendship. I hope I = get to hear you play some day. who knows whether someone will step up and do the looping festival in = nor cal again next year. there are some rumblings, but it's really time for me to redirect my = energies to my own artistry after 10 straight years of tithing my time = and energy to the looping community. I love it, but I feel like I'm running out of time to get the myriad = creative things accomplished that I want to get accomplished on this = mortal coil. Cheers, rick On 11/20/10 5:53 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:=20 well i don't have my lp-1 any more. i'm using mobius in bidule on a = macbook pro. but i used to use it with a rack mixer. i used to split my = dry signal into three streams. one went direct to the mixer and the = other two went to my repeater and the lp-1. the lp-1 was set to 100% = wet. the mixer had mute buttons on it, so i could mute the dry signal = completely. if you put the lp-1 into the master aux send of your mixer, = you could do the same, simply by dropping the fader where you have your = main signal going in. the aux send will be pre-fader, so signal will = still get sent to the lp-1. the lp-1 would be set to 100% wet. i think = the inserts would be pre-fader too, so no problems there. i did use the aux sends in the lp-1. you can't alter the levels = directly, but volume control can be achieved further along the = chain...especially if you route them back to a channel on the mixer. in = fact having a slightly larger mixer would allow you to have main signal = on channel 1, lp-1 main output on channel 2, aux 1 output on channel 3 = and aux 2 output on channel 4. total control. i had my aux 1 routed to a = lexicon mpx-1, so i could further treat my loops. the outputs came back = to another channel on my mixer. i had a kaoss pad on the fx send of the = repeater too. again...it came back to it's own channel. i never really use song form looping, so i can't help you there, i'm = afraid. many people do and some of them post on the lp-1 forum, so i'm = sure you could get some help there, if you feel you need it. i know it's = completely possible to get some quite sophisticated arrangements going = with the right string of commands. sounds exciting and scary - hats off = to you sir and best of luck with it! sim On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Rick Walker = wrote: On 11/19/10 9:08 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:=20 cool. i can't remember how i stumbled on this...probably by = accident, but it's a great technique. i think i usually used fast = scramble and then did half speed on the loop to get the scramble rate i = liked. because i split my dry signal and my loops out of curiosity, how do you route your LP-1? For my travel rig = , where I use a DTAR 2 channel mono mixer (mostly for space and weight = considerations) I have the possibility of using a single master effects = loop and then I have insert chains potentially for each single channel. Currently, I'm using the inserts to send and return from my stompbox = pedals (and M9 looper)=20 and then, probably primitively, I'm sending the final mix to the LP1 = and from there to the PA My brother says I should not do this and should use the Master = Effects loop to send to the LP1=20 but I wanted to be able to have a completely wet signal if I need it = in the LP1. Do you have an opinion on this one? , it's easy to mute the dry part. you can have some fun creating = loops where you can't hear what you're playing - especially if the loop = is heavily treated with fx. i learned this tip from david torn, while = watching one of his "painting with guitar" videos years ago. Have you experimented using the Aux sends, out of curiosity? I haven't even looked. Can you change the volume of each send = individually? It's funny, but though I use a lot of the features on the LP1 I = don't really know it=20 deeply. I'm just now wanting to use it to create coherent = singer/songwriter forms=20 so I have a bit of a learning curve to figure out what people have = done along those lines. I've played abstractly for the last 10 years..........complete = improv always and suddenly,=20 I'm really hankering for song form, structure and melody in my own = work: writing my first ever singer/songwriter record (using a ton of = really simply played acoustic instruments--mostly because I"m a neophyte = on all of them). I'm simultaneously really turned on musically and = really scared and insecure (especially about writing lyrics). I'm = trying to force myself to grow through the stuff that turns me on and = scares me simultaneously. It's going to be an exciting year! anyway, if you come up with some nice stuff using this technique, = please post some clips, i'd love to hear what you do with it. btw - just read on facebook that bob has a new update out for the = lp-1, so hopefully you guys will get some bugs fixed! Yeah, no kidding. This LP2 project and the fact that it's radical = delay this year (due entirely to the irritating people who manufacturer = the boxes he had designed who have held him=20 up for an entire year) has forced him to take on another full time = job (as well as raise his family of five) really put the LP1 problems on = back burner, but I know he's back on it again. I've got some really killer rhythmic software additions coming down = the pike for the machine=20 and he's promised those ideas top priority for the person who's = helping him code now. Stay tuned! all the best you too, Simeon! rick sim ps - watch the "reply-to" address if you don't want to go on-list Wonderful technique, Simeon. For all the times I"ve used sus replace (I'm responsible for = putting a version in the upcoming new LP-2 Mini Looper) I never thought = of doing this. I suppose on a single song you could go to wet only in the main = menu of the Looperlative=20 to get the loop on it's own. I just love recontextualizing random and then bending it to one's = own will ----=20 muaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa! take care, and thanks for the tip. Rick Walker=20 Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CB88E4.F1026C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rick,
 
As a Mackie 1202vlz owner I=E2=80=99m intrigued =E2=80=93 how do = you get maximum routing=20 out of it, if I might ask?
 
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: lp-1 tricks
 
Thanks for all the thoughts.
Yeah,  I'm pretty = good at=20 setting up my Mackie 1402 or 1602 so that I can get maximum
routing = (and=20 muting options) but this D-Tar is a lot less sophisticated (yet I can = get it on=20
an airplane).

I'll have to experiment with the master effects = chain.   I have to look up whether it is pre or post=20 faders.

anyway, thanks for all the time you spent and your=20 friendship.  I hope I get to hear you play some day.

who = knows=20 whether someone will step up and do the looping festival in nor cal = again next=20 year.
   there are some rumblings, but it's really time for = me to=20 redirect my energies to my own artistry after 10 straight years of = tithing my=20 time and energy to the looping community.

I love it, but I feel = like I'm=20 running out of time to get the myriad creative things accomplished that = I want=20 to get accomplished on this mortal coil.

Cheers,  =20 rick

On 11/20/10 5:53 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:=20 well i don't have my lp-1 any more. i'm using mobius in = bidule on=20 a macbook pro. but i used to use it with a rack mixer. i used to split = my dry=20 signal into three streams. one went direct to the mixer and the other = two went=20 to my repeater and the lp-1. the lp-1 was set to 100% wet. the mixer = had mute=20 buttons on it, so i could mute the dry signal completely. if you put = the lp-1=20 into the master aux send of your mixer, you could do the same, simply = by=20 dropping the fader where you have your main signal going in. the aux = send will=20 be pre-fader, so signal will still get sent to the lp-1. the lp-1 = would be set=20 to 100% wet. i think the inserts would be pre-fader too, so no = problems=20 there.
i did use the aux sends in the lp-1. you can't alter the = levels=20 directly, but volume control can be achieved further along the=20 chain...especially if you route them back to a channel on the mixer. = in fact=20 having a slightly larger mixer would allow you to have main signal on = channel=20 1, lp-1 main output on channel 2, aux 1 output on channel 3 and aux 2 = output=20 on channel 4. total control. i had my aux 1 routed to a lexicon mpx-1, = so i=20 could further treat my loops. the outputs came back to another channel = on my=20 mixer. i had a kaoss pad on the fx send of the repeater too. = again...it came=20 back to it's own channel.
i never really use song form looping, so = i can't=20 help you there, i'm afraid. many people do and some of them post on = the lp-1=20 forum, so i'm sure you could get some help there, if you feel you need = it. i=20 know it's completely possible to get some quite sophisticated = arrangements=20 going with the right string of commands. sounds exciting and scary - = hats off=20 to you sir and best of luck with it!

sim



On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Rick Walker = <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 11/19/10 9:08 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:=20
cool. i can't remember how i stumbled on=20 this...probably by accident, but it's a great technique. i think i = usually=20 used fast scramble and then did half speed on the loop to get the = scramble=20 rate i liked.

because i split my dry signal and my=20 loops
out of = curiosity,  how=20 do you route your LP-1?     For my travel rig , = where I=20 use a DTAR 2 channel mono mixer (mostly for space and weight=20 considerations)  I have the possibility of using a single = master=20 effects loop and then I have insert chains potentially for each = single=20 channel.
Currently, I'm using the inserts to send and return from = my=20 stompbox pedals (and M9 looper)
and then, probably primitively, = I'm=20 sending the final mix to the LP1 and from there to the PA

My = brother=20 says I should not do this and should use the Master Effects loop to = send to=20 the LP1
but I wanted to be able to have a completely wet signal = if I=20 need it in the LP1.

Do you have an opinion on this=20 one?
, it's easy to mute the dry part. you can = have=20 some fun creating loops where you can't hear what you're playing - = especially if the loop is heavily treated with fx. i learned this = tip from=20 david torn, while watching one of his "painting with guitar" = videos years=20 ago.

Have = you=20 experimented using the Aux sends, out of curiosity?
I haven't = even=20 looked.   Can you change the volume of each send=20 individually?

It's funny, but though I use a lot of the = features on=20 the LP1 I don't really know it
deeply.   I'm just now = wanting=20 to use it to create coherent singer/songwriter forms
so I have a = bit of=20 a learning curve to figure out what people have done along those=20 lines.
I've played abstractly for the last 10 = years..........complete=20 improv always and suddenly,
I'm really hankering for song form,=20 structure and melody in my own work:  writing my first ever=20 singer/songwriter record (using a ton of really simply played = acoustic=20 instruments--mostly because I"m a neophyte on all of=20 them).    I'm simultaneously really turned on = musically and=20 really scared and insecure (especially about writing=20 lyrics).    I'm trying to force myself to grow = through the=20 stuff that turns me on and scares me simultaneously.
It's going = to be an=20 exciting year!

anyway, if you come up with some nice = stuff=20 using this technique, please post some clips, i'd love to hear = what you do=20 with it.

btw - just read on facebook that bob has a new = update out=20 for the lp-1, so hopefully you guys will get some bugs=20 fixed!
Yeah, no=20 kidding.  This LP2 project and the fact that it's radical delay = this=20 year (due entirely to the irritating people who manufacturer the = boxes he=20 had designed who have held him
up for an entire year) has forced = him to=20 take on another full time job (as well as raise his family of five) = really=20 put the LP1 problems on back burner, but I know he's back on it=20 again.
I've got some really killer rhythmic software additions = coming=20 down the pike for the machine
and he's promised those ideas top = priority=20 for the person who's helping him code now.
Stay=20 tuned!

all the = best
you too, Simeon!

rick

sim

ps - watch the "reply-to" = address=20 if you don't want to go on-list

Wonderful technique, Simeon.
For all the times = I"ve used=20 sus replace (I'm responsible for putting a version in the upcoming = new=20 LP-2 Mini Looper) I never thought of doing this.

I suppose = on a=20 single song you could go to wet only in the main menu of the = Looperlative=20
to get the loop on it's own.

I just love = recontextualizing=20 random and then bending it to one's own will ----=20
muaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa!

take care, and = thanks for=20 the tip.

Rick = Walker=20 =


= Thanks
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CB88E4.F1026C60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 18:59:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 041C23BEAE; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE81AA6.5050501@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:59:50 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louie Angulo CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: D-tar acoustic preamp mixer for sale in ebay germany ! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo wrote: > Thanx for the hindsight Rick it is indeed a lovely preamp, is > too bad i have to get rid of gear i love but i need the money so ill > have to stick to my mixer sniff,sniff;-( > Luis Sorry that money is so tight. I feel you though, I'm about to sell several pieces of gear that I feel nervous about letting go to make it through the end of the year. Be well, my dear friend. love, Rick > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 19:01:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FFFE3BEC7; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4CE6D950.5090302@cruzio.com> <4CE81653.8070403@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4CE81653.8070403@cruzio.com> Subject: Early Thanksgiving Show Tonight! Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:00:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01CB88E5.41F366B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:01:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CB88E5.41F366B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BFTonight I=E2=80=99ve put together a video collage to play on = top of, that incorporates imagery from Thanksgivings past and near-past. = =20 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/earthlight-at-westgate Midnight London time, 7pm Eastern, 4pm Pacific. Archived for your later = enjoyment. Happy Thanksgiving in advance! Stephen Goodman EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net http://www.earthlight.tv * Sent from a PC, not an iPhone ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CB88E5.41F366B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CB88E5.41F366B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 19:05:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB41A3BED3; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <2C238BE5-4173-4CD7-84C6-50BB33101E55@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: a loop-shaped house Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:05:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Thanks a lot for showing everyone my brand new dream house/loopestary that I was trying to keep a secret Todd!!!!! I guess You won't be getting one of the "suprise" all expenses paid vacations to stay with me I'll be announcing on Oprah next week!!! Its to bad really, because head chef and spiritual guidance counselor Michael "Scoots" Kolbuchar has some really wonderful meals and activities planned... Oh all right you can come.............. Bill PS sorry I got so upset, glad you like the house! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 19:06:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68E803BEE2; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=8ojpmc9dAAAA:20 a=JrQRTLR6o0jrTWoXZDAA:9 a=29XEWfmLHum11vGf2RgWV8aNoqIA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=wBp9HK3LnrAA:10 a=IawXvI9lP1MA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: a loop-shaped house Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:05:59 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:06:05 +0000 (UTC) When do we move in? On Nov 20, 2010, at 10:15 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > http://bit.ly/cBzQqk > > for my fellow loopers. I found it fun, beautiful, and a little > respite from our usual techno-musical conversations which I enjoy so > much. > > Cheers, all. > > Todd > > > > - > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 19:10:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31DE33BEE4; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE81D0E.108@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:10:06 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box References: <4CE7B594.9060109@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4CE7B594.9060109@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:10:13 +0000 (UTC) andy butler wrote: > "I reckon that part of it is that guitar players tend to be ultra > conservative, > always looking to what established guitar players use and do." Funny that you say that, Andy, because I just got back from the Percussion Arts Society enormous annual convention and drummer/percussionists make guitar players look like the most adventurous musicians on the planet. I actually think of guitarists as very adventurous, but I realize that this is because I've been hanging out with looping guitarists for the last 15 years of my life and they are quite adventurous compared to most non-looping guitarists. > "Also, it takes a certain amount of variation in playing technique to > make a triggered effect work effectively. (then again, the same is true > of distortion, so I guess it just comes back to conservatism). > There are a number of Attack fx available, the most well known being > the Boss "Slow Gear". " Yeah, thanks! I'm already aware of all the ways to control the attack (volume manipulations, ebows, slow gear effects, etc. It's been the DSR part of the function that I'm more interested in because I'm so interested in the guitar as a single line ostinato creator for my own musical and rhytmmic purposes > "The compression is actually necessary to make the ADSR (really an ADS > in the Pigtronix)) work in any useful way. It compensates for the > natural decay of the string. " Nice point that I didn't think of. I think I learn something from you almost every time you post. I really appreciate your extremely deep knowledge base, Andy! > > >> >> rick walker >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 19:51:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C62EB3BE95; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/XwNJviwqQIFj2xWydwXmfhh0s/t0n3q9AKXvn7qEz8=; b=Y29x4PCdJa3XTidTORuPesgt5fXJI+to7PsrcgYjAyx0PDKHYRIkaWXguzOFAYsfLt G6+x2nzoUcMjrMZpwUsI7wROASmUIordcxf+LLhjj0fW7j4Yjr5HkAQJRLQB5VeC05ni 3kEjzSEKzm8v7klkjIvXqei2+S0JBeR76ieB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UdnDk13S1nWnbJNoiJ86m+/SceWNxjsdT9Dg0YJZPIinFETrFAHUqYy8VdLwbFUcR0 qUaCizQzK2/TiqhLwdDPXzMLb0880ZoGwjg7UGjPmfmWsb8dDWs4qOJ/L/GY0IvgjM7j slN4eLuzRV4QqBWLGYQMJveBC/A9jYEom5pBU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CE6D950.5090302@cruzio.com> <4CE81653.8070403@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:51:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Early Thanksgiving Show Tonight! From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Stephen I have missed each time but your timing this is pretty good for to catch part of your set. Will try. Jim On 11/20/10, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Tonight I=92ve put together a video collage to play on top of, that > incorporates imagery from Thanksgivings past and near-past. > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/earthlight-at-westgate > Midnight London time, 7pm Eastern, 4pm Pacific. Archived for your later > enjoyment. Happy Thanksgiving in advance! > Stephen Goodman > EarthLight Productions > * > http://www.earthlight.net > http://www.earthlight.tv > * > Sent from a PC, not an iPhone --=20 Sent from my mobile device >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 21:22:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E886C3BE8E; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3607 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:22:53 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: In-reply-to: <4CE6E121.9090303@cruzio.com> References: <4CE6E121.9090303@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:13:58 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:22:53 +0000 (UTC) I could find use for a MIDI ADSR table box that could be triggered with a touch pad or looped with a built in LFO. At 12:42 PM -0800 11/19/10, Rick Walker wrote: >Bill mentioned the Pigtronix Philosopher's King pedal as being a dream >coupling of a compressor and an Envelope Generator with an ADSR. > >I've always been curious why more guitar players aren't interested in having >a fully functioning ADSR and wonder, does anyone make an ADSR stomp >box pedal (in this case, without a compressor). > >The Pigronix does look really cool but I wish it didn't take up so >much real estate >(and I really wish I had more money to be able to afford it, currently). > >Any ideas? > >rick walker -- "My destination is always the same, but I work out a different route to get there" -- Henri Matisse My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 21:51:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2146D3BE8C; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Rescuing damaged wav files Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:51:07 +0100 Message-ID: <0724273259284155A20AEAF685F34F58@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcuI/QjT7OEUd1tXScakMer16WsJWA== X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.4.98; VDF: 7.10.14.55) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Somebody pulled the plug during the recording today. My Edirol R-09 doesn't like that. One of the wav files has lots of megabytes but is apparently empty. Does anyone know of a way to repair them? I assume the data itself were written but some kind of header is missing. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 20 22:08:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 463093BE8B; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HLWFNKGblI7S/XgHL1/dT2+IlLDH/iR8z9+zABaYgW4=; b=rcNaxmWqCKo99qQEePoY36guDUpBVl1cRrB0K1PUtEc/mIayJgF+0v0FtKadx6LFgQ HIGw7yDwV82IqxArfLTTT5MSLzH8qEXXQ5xhljRzUt7CB3GtglwtAr3t+Hti/KlCw51V cIA0oLI7g5lSgYd+W5Vm88ogCVhyB/0bqK2n8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=L/sPdgSqLXCZKjl3mffLDHdXvUS1lMNlCkQhfxx/ZO6PQ1d8GJQ3Scv+B3WQJqQXLq GKY/YM0NkSelKrc/jFZJdNrF/Tr3KwX4RwOa5IeJUY9XcgU5IrGhRX2/49Fj7dzNITSF O8sK0sXF5nluZlzDpnEcE/oNBGIS/OYIYN85U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0724273259284155A20AEAF685F34F58@mpeserver> References: <0724273259284155A20AEAF685F34F58@mpeserver> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:08:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rescuing damaged wav files From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255751deeccd9c0495834100 Resent-Message-ID: <6G3GRB.A.ypB.IbE6MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:08:08 +0000 (UTC) --0003255751deeccd9c0495834100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.sonicstudios.com/r-09revw.htm#memory (version 120 upgrade) Info on a firmware upgrade that may fix certain corrupt wavs with the Edirol. *Roland has added a 'FILE FIX' utility that attempts repairing corrupted files inside the deck*. There are user reports that some files do get fixed, others may not be repaired using this utility, but doesn't hurt to try.. Good luck! ** On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > Somebody pulled the plug during the recording today. My Edirol R-09 doesn't > like that. One of the wav files has lots of megabytes but is apparently > empty. Does anyone know of a way to repair them? I assume the data itself > were written but some kind of header is missing. > > -Michael > --0003255751deeccd9c0495834100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.soni= cstudios.com/r-09revw.htm#memory=A0 (version 120 upgrade)

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Good luck!


On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Michael Pet= ers <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
Somebody pulled the plug during the recording today. My Edirol R-09 doesn&#= 39;t
like that. One of the wav files has lots of megabytes but is apparently
empty. Does anyone know of a way to repair them? I assume the data itself were written but some kind of header is missing.

-Michael

--0003255751deeccd9c0495834100-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 00:37:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D2713BE8A; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 00:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xIEwbnPu2dg9prHvVPOPfDNJ7PmFW/Sqfu24kfoCz0M=; b=eUlDt8n3AM3U8by+wtha2c+kSdnww5guqNIScKMexv/fZdIS6L1CRatpGGZQc7dfFo czEXbl12uV+P3g6ptF1iHgJQ9jvyTS0PZFhiPxP5uJpVD54zV/Pr/bWQ6NUVDkmw1Z+2 uCm48kiu+1KvvYq9+712ddDVBxtJfZN2WuWwc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oi7KvUzHLCOl9ajkcjjvNQ8zcMudEzl76HTGNBFsMn498gRnVjSxSuHUk3JavQB1bm XPthCqErEfbx2KSttQqdG2MkZYsDFWrFqV1p9pq9WJ5nojuENLhySpD1P0luYtbCN7Eb fe05lu7jQL6/X55mdYNLXBWQPAKcmMKqFNsHM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:37:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Plogue Bidule + Apple Quartz Composer + Isadora From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 00:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Bueller? Bueller? Anyone? Anyone had any experience with these three together? Or even just bidule and Quartz Composer would be a good place to start.. Thanks! Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 01:40:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 917403BE8C; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1201 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:40:31 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1290302430; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=FbnURwWsg6mKDj0toXPAO1ow/xY=; b=avSoHC7InmnSct8mKR4OsRT6G2sVbocEoGrr+DFNleSXHojiLvY6PXYPKrXt2jtJ SP/P5ErSbWXxvQlp40AgSZeZw6FZgi14qWS2KYuRtTbI0yxo4z5XTmt+BNhlfPSY; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=GjSw85aYhVAez9m2lqToYDQxaUjuIZzYAcBkgnPwn54= c=1 sm=0 a=CTLREkTij3UA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=MMVfPzYWPxMA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=_kaIUoFhMewcrdca7fQA:9 a=D1f28q3gVVy2emMyapAA:7 a=NX_viYat-M-nPRmL-_K4vIu21K8A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Hhc/OnKmOS1xKI2oHPQhqg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:20:30 -0500 (EST) From: EDWARD YUHAS To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <58851892.868742.1290302430612.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box Compressor-Sustainer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [76.1.247.128] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2328.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2213.RHEL4_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang! Forgive my unknowing, but what does ADSR stand for? I have an idea, but if someone could set me straight, I'd appreciate it. Also, in the compressor-sustainer world...I'm searching for one now and I'm interested in the Keeley 2-knob, however it IS a bit pricey at $229 or so. What are the differences in sound/tone/bypass modes compared to the MXR Dyna Comp and/or that Pigtronix Philosopher's Tone I've been reading about here? Thanks once again for your advice. Some great threads this week! The Mobius one and also the continuing LP-1 thread have been quite interesting. I'm getting motivated again, as I've been transforming a rig but been generally in a creative slump. Peace... Edward Yuhas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 01:48:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9CA73BE86; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ae2/DhwfmRVViorXuJkZj2l1MD5T9CE52OaHLSAL+sY=; b=SmZ8Ts1r9kyurAwwQjmoHC46sdFpIr6n3robN/vxSj5Ee+yqS45+z4aS9fueByPHl/ CYWLkFPw15lGzI9cVG35NsOmgxjy6qo2Gk+/7jiBxOtjUjAmFbFVHDzWsAvkT2rwkIBb zFjvSzo70CvBaBY9RxrE/X0DP0LKb47PGUGmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BKZNIuY845ghONOs8i5azQvfYbw6RlY3xtE6EhS9nqhCIO3ZzhfMm8kbl/EhIcAfZB waye0962LOi/luWV86r8/fnypKiSMyWhUcwT/UNTHgsbJS/NMkZRS3lhpqLczRSbs3Ie iFXXvZiFhOWyRs21H2RqkPSJsWtOw4HQHNLaY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58851892.868742.1290302430612.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> References: <58851892.868742.1290302430612.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:48:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box Compressor-Sustainer From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:48:06 +0000 (UTC) attack decay sustain release On Saturday, November 20, 2010, EDWARD YUHAS wrote: > Hi gang! > > Forgive my unknowing, but what does ADSR stand for? I have an idea, but if someone could set me straight, I'd appreciate it. > > Also, in the compressor-sustainer world...I'm searching for one now and I'm interested in the Keeley 2-knob, however it IS a bit pricey at $229 or so. > > What are the differences in sound/tone/bypass modes compared to the MXR Dyna Comp and/or that Pigtronix Philosopher's Tone I've been reading about here? > > Thanks once again for your advice. Some great threads this week! The Mobius one and also the continuing LP-1 thread have been quite interesting. I'm getting motivated again, as I've been transforming a rig but been generally in a creative slump. > > Peace... > > Edward Yuhas > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 02:12:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E82B3BE8A; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE88016.4080600@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:12:38 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:12:45 +0000 (UTC) I just went through the longest airport security coming back from the PASIC convention (Percussion Arts Society) in Indianapolis this past week. After the de rigeur removal of shoes, belts, watches, cell phones, change and removing my laptop from it's bag (my gear took up four of those plastic grey bins) they stopped me on the other side and made me return my gear through the scanner again. Then a security guard came out and made me take my entire case apart and explain to him what each piece was. The security guard was actually very nice and apologetic (and was interested in live looping) but it was such an amazing pain in the ass. I somehow doubt that the Al Quaeda considers Indianapolis a prime target either, but it's airport is the first American airport completed post 9/11 so it has state of the art security in place. I've come to the place where I realize that my electronics rack (replete with LP-1 looper, DTar mini-mixer, Shure wireless headphone system, Midi Buddy midi pedals, AKG C1000s and Shure Beta 58 microphones, Shertler pickups and various and sundry AC chords and connecting cables (XLR, line, insert cables, et. al.) is just too valuable and vulnerable to check so I have it in a rack case that will fit in the overheads so I can bring it on myself. My big luggage has my instruments in it (and my Line 6 M9 and Boss PS-5 Pitch Shifter) all surrounded by clothing. I asked that it have a 'Fragile' sticker on it. When I got it off the plane, the 'Fragile' sticker was completely thrashes from where the plane handlers had thrown the bag. I watched them hurl it through the air on top of other luggage without any regard. Now they say that they may stop allowing carry on luggage. Arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh, I hope the traveller revolt starts soon. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 02:17:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2C563BE8C; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE8812C.7070207@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:17:16 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Oh, I just saw this and thought it was apropos to the discussion How the Canadians see US Airport Security *http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/11/how-canadians-see-american-airport-security/66706/ * From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 02:44:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A07B13BE86; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VFpTGKC/hR3L3KCaHdGv6YzcTCGJE0ai1IFltoC4gAg=; b=nD7TnebfK2AI4IDEvIS+X4MpDT/HOcF1ccXfN/+YsN1H4itqBJLJizkskDa1Bcjo7K MrTQuEI0MToIv2OuptYFDv71vEIE2z+U4z1+ecOKsHi55WlTJte2bXp8c/ENFQv/dMkh Wl8USdtFde0hSrKt6En0l6EiNDUYHQIJCnYO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ArUG4iErdj59L0OCVZf1EemRcCnut88dAOC0M51V7MGwIAGVMMkbCSDCBYG0FDm6Ks 7o+mrVREvndgs4GaUbWR6UsWe9XopDRRquP6aGj8+kxhuKnB6f0yEPqqFeezxCaVRFuR daiHP90b9d0Lw41r79+A7P/MbsY5LjIOwUkfY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CE8812C.7070207@cruzio.com> References: <4CE8812C.7070207@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:44:08 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <34b3TC.A.2TH.6dI6MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Funny Video! I'm hearing a lot about the new regulations. I haven't experienced it, so really, I don't know what to say. Sorry, sounds like it really sucked. On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Oh, =A0I just saw this and thought it was apropos to the discussion > > How the Canadians see US Airport Security > > *http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/11/how-canadians-see-am= erican-airport-security/66706/ > * > > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 02:50:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1FE33BE8E; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <96835D1852E1451289CE708D5D8B6D5A@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4CE8812C.7070207@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:50:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:50:28 +0000 (UTC) ?I was thinking of wrapping a cucumber in foil... -----Original Message----- From: Art Simon Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 2:44 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security Funny Video! I'm hearing a lot about the new regulations. I haven't experienced it, so really, I don't know what to say. Sorry, sounds like it really sucked. On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Oh, I just saw this and thought it was apropos to the discussion > > How the Canadians see US Airport Security > > *http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/11/how-canadians-see-american-airport-security/66706/ > * > > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 03:28:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF71E3BE85; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 03:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 04:28:23 +0100 Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box Compressor-Sustainer X-Originating-Ip: 98.180.40.193 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101121032823.81C83160221@c-in3ws--03-05.sv2.lotuslive.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0nEsKD.A.RI.YHJ6MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 03:28:24 +0000 (UTC) >=20 > > What are the differences in sound/tone/bypass modes compared to=20 > > the MXR Dyna Comp and/or that Pigtronix Philosopher's Tone I've=20 > > been reading about here? To my ears the PS is the most musical COMP I've ever heard. I have stopped = using mine on my electric only because I now have an on-board COMP in my Go= din, so I just don't need it there any more. I'll probably switch it over t= o the acoustic/piezo output of my Godin. The MXR isn't bad, but I think the= PS is in a class of it's own. Aguy at my Luthier's shop who has the Keeley= heard my PS when I first got it & said although he wouldn't trade his Keel= ey, he was amazed at how nice it sounded, plus it has the DIRT knob to play= t with as well. It's also very small, so it's an easy placement on a board.= The prices new I've seen have sat at around $160 for the PS. > > Thanks once again for your advice. Some great threads this week!=20 > > The Mobius one and also the continuing LP-1 thread have been=20 > > quite interesting. I'm getting motivated again, as I've been=20 > > transforming a rig but been generally in a creative slump. > > > > Peace... > > > > Edward Yuhas > > > > > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 03:39:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 793F63BE8C; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 03:39:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GEuHKQP8U2ub3DKLAvV6Zva05zVfR+wA9sVx/2LdySs=; b=QxMMJpey0+OSYIt8DG5IVf+zIijAHUoPmcy+qaaUXd7eIU/JQ8sFgpYNV1Q82uRssP vR7cUwWaPtgLMhkoDgd0QDzlyWA1N0NfYdbhWzrXn8ZjhYe2peDYjO1+YRmzTV4JicaF kDsm+oZGeDb0Mwl0ySdh0QcpRURhrVof9NJAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hkM9Lemfv4FDxD4MXLLzgFttsfkk6qHP1CCfB6h+GSPnTpqNI+wUI2WGLTf4xWVyno 8/VdAuZfzpsZQIsBLuTxCFV1G60XRLO5qnZF2Ek78wbfEG8AGJY0G3kYwAOJju+b+DQt xJIG+IHhM4vHnbBzG43mFFjKW1c5FhRWcYleA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:38:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Digitsignal Live Video Webcast, Sunday Nov 21, 9am PST 12pm EST 5pm UK 6pm WE From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ac8b096132049587e10f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 03:39:00 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ac8b096132049587e10f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *Digitsignal* the virtual global NinJam quintet of *Jeff Duke (USA), Peter Th=F6rn (SW), Steve Moyes (UK), Ray Istorico (USA) and Jim Goodin (USA)* wi= ll be doing a live video webcast tomorrow (Sunday 11-21-10) at 9am PST 12pm ES= T 5pm UK 6pm western Europe. 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--20cf3054ac8b096132049587e10f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 03:44:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 102E13BE8B; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 03:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4CE88016.4080600@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4CE88016.4080600@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <74DD7CF5-2B7C-49C3-BCAE-10E0995D2759@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:44:49 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 03:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Airport security is a sham. Jeffrey Goldberg has been writing hilarious (and sad) articles about this for several years. = http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/10/for-the-first-time-the= -tsa-meets-resistance/65390/ = http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/11/the-things-he-carried/= 7057/ There are only two things that have increased airplane safety since 9/11, reinforced cockpit doors and the fact that passengers will never again obey hijackers. The rest has been an enormous waste of money. I got to experience the back-scatter scanner on my way back from Jan = Jose, or as Goldberg likes to call it the Federal Dick Measuring Device. =20 Next time I'm going to opt for the pat down and have some fun with it. Jeff (aka "The Resistance") From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 07:51:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 580C83BE8E; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:51:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <518461257.822642.1290325911660.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4CE7FF7B.8070006@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_822641_1534969924.1290325911659" X-Originating-IP: [174.62.174.204] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:51:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_822641_1534969924.1290325911659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rainer, I was thinking about this all day. Not really all that conservative, but I took Rick at his word about decoupling the ADSR from a compressor and just went on basic principles from there. You nicely laid the whole problem out from there. A guitar is basically ,"Attack / Decay", and "SR" isn't really possible without some kind of variable gain amplifier, and even then ADSR kind of presumes that you have infinite sustain available. Still not touching "R"! Since we're on sustain, though, I will mention that I just got an Electro-Harmonix stompbox (I do not work for and am in no way affiliated with EH!) called a Freeze, which, when you step on the switch, takes an instantaneous sample of whatever is going through it and sustains it infinitely. It's pretty cool! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 12:03:55 PM Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box So that's probably the "ultra-conservative guitarist" viewpoint you're mentioning here ;). Basically, I understand that Rick wants something like the envelope mode in my trusted TC Triple-C, which is some huge fun on any kind of signal, including (but not limited to) percussive sounds (i.e. sound without a lot of "S"). However, as Rick asked for some kind of ADSR without a compressor, I believe there's a reason that both usually come together. To make that ADSR effect, you need next to the ADSR generator a VCA-kinda thing and a threshold/envelope detector - in short, functions which a compressor already has, so it's easy to make it also work as a compressor. The aforementioned Triple-C, while not being a stompbox (as Rick asked), is, as I said, huge fun. In addition to the highly creative envelope mode, you can also run it as a fullrange compressor-limiter or multiband compressor-limiter combo. And you get a sidechain input (and this is where the ADSR function really starts to get fun). Rainer Christophe schrieb: > Probably because it doesn't really seem to make sense when applied to > a straight guitar signal. There's not a lot of "S" there and it's hard > to imagine how you'd implement the "R". And then there's the problem > of how to interface it with whatever effect you'd want to control with > it, if any. Possibly the ADSR could be done with some kind of > "enhanced Sustainiac" sort of thing, but a free standing stomp box > doesn't seem likely. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs ------=_Part_822641_1534969924.1290325911659 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Hi Rainer,

I was thinking about this all day.

Not rea= lly all that conservative, but I took Rick at his word about decoupling the= ADSR from a compressor and just went on basic principles from there. = You nicely laid the whole problem out from there.  A guitar is basica= lly ,"Attack / Decay", and "SR" isn't really possible without some kind of = variable gain amplifier, and even then ADSR kind of presumes that you have = infinite sustain available.  Still not touching "R"!

Since we'r= e on sustain, though, I will mention that I just got an Electro-Harmonix st= ompbox (I do not work for and am in no way affiliated with EH!) called a Fr= eeze, which, when you step on the switch, takes an instantaneous sample of = whatever is going through it and sustains it infinitely.  It's pretty = cool!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rainer Stras= chill" <moinsound@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 12:03:55 PM
Subject: Re: AD= SR stomp box

So that's probably the "ultra-conservative guitarist" v= iewpoint you're
mentioning here ;).
Basically, I understand that Ric= k wants something like the envelope mode
in my trusted TC Triple-C, whi= ch is some huge fun on any kind of signal,
including (but not limited t= o) percussive sounds (i.e. sound without a
lot of "S").

However,= as Rick asked for some kind of ADSR without a compressor, I
believe th= ere's a reason that both usually come together. To make that
ADSR effec= t, you need next to the ADSR generator a VCA-kinda thing and a
threshol= d/envelope detector - in short, functions which a compressor
already ha= s, so it's easy to make it also work as a compressor.

The aforementi= oned Triple-C, while not being a stompbox (as Rick asked),
is, as I sai= d, huge fun. In addition to the highly creative envelope
mode, you can = also run it as a fullrange compressor-limiter or multiband
compressor-l= imiter combo. And you get a sidechain input (and this is
where the ADSR= function really starts to get fun).

       &nbs= p;  Rainer

Christophe schrieb:
> Probably because it does= n't really seem to make sense when applied to
> a straight guitar si= gnal. There's not a lot of "S" there and it's hard
> to imagine how = you'd implement the "R".  And then there's the problem
> of how= to interface it with whatever effect you'd want to control with
> i= t, if any.  Possibly the ADSR could be done with some kind of
>= "enhanced Sustainiac" sort of thing, but a free standing stomp box
>= ; doesn't seem likely.


--
http://moinlabs.de
Follow me on= twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs

------=_Part_822641_1534969924.1290325911659-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 08:14:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FC9A3BE8F; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:14:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f3866842-7fbb-43fd-8375-915ec7a0f0e6_" X-Originating-IP: [86.165.3.187] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: ADSR stomp box Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:14:49 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <518461257.822642.1290325911660.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <4CE7FF7B.8070006@googlemail.com>,<518461257.822642.1290325911660.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2010 08:14:49.0159 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A632570:01CB8954] Resent-Message-ID: <5-PA3.A.8LF.6TN6MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:14:50 +0000 (UTC) --_f3866842-7fbb-43fd-8375-915ec7a0f0e6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As some of you may know=2C I'm developing a low latency guitar synth plugin= =2C("Monolith") loosely based on the wonderful Minimoog but with a few mods= . I have been looking at the problem of how to apply envelopes to the guita= r input and opted for an A=2CD=2CG configuration - the G being guitar of co= urse. This means that what was previously the sustain part of the envelope = is under player control in terms of dynamics and certain techniques such as= palm muting=2C ebow use=2C feedback etc. It works for me so far - still ir= oning out some other issues at the mo but it will be finished soon=2C SOON!= ! =20 Peace =20 G =20 Date: Sun=2C 21 Nov 2010 07:51:51 +0000 From: cburke55@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box Hi Rainer=2C I was thinking about this all day. Not really all that conservative=2C but I took Rick at his word about decou= pling the ADSR from a compressor and just went on basic principles from the= re. You nicely laid the whole problem out from there. A guitar is basical= ly =2C"Attack / Decay"=2C and "SR" isn't really possible without some kind = of variable gain amplifier=2C and even then ADSR kind of presumes that you = have infinite sustain available. Still not touching "R"! Since we're on sustain=2C though=2C I will mention that I just got an Elect= ro-Harmonix stompbox (I do not work for and am in no way affiliated with EH= !) called a Freeze=2C which=2C when you step on the switch=2C takes an inst= antaneous sample of whatever is going through it and sustains it infinitely= . It's pretty cool! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday=2C November 20=2C 2010 12:03:55 PM Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box So that's probably the "ultra-conservative guitarist" viewpoint you're=20 mentioning here =3B). Basically=2C I understand that Rick wants something like the envelope mode= =20 in my trusted TC Triple-C=2C which is some huge fun on any kind of signal= =2C=20 including (but not limited to) percussive sounds (i.e. sound without a=20 lot of "S"). However=2C as Rick asked for some kind of ADSR without a compressor=2C I=20 believe there's a reason that both usually come together. To make that=20 ADSR effect=2C you need next to the ADSR generator a VCA-kinda thing and a= =20 threshold/envelope detector - in short=2C functions which a compressor=20 already has=2C so it's easy to make it also work as a compressor. The aforementioned Triple-C=2C while not being a stompbox (as Rick asked)= =2C=20 is=2C as I said=2C huge fun. In addition to the highly creative envelope=20 mode=2C you can also run it as a fullrange compressor-limiter or multiband= =20 compressor-limiter combo. And you get a sidechain input (and this is=20 where the ADSR function really starts to get fun). Rainer Christophe schrieb: > Probably because it doesn't really seem to make sense when applied to=20 > a straight guitar signal. There's not a lot of "S" there and it's hard=20 > to imagine how you'd implement the "R". And then there's the problem=20 > of how to interface it with whatever effect you'd want to control with=20 > it=2C if any. Possibly the ADSR could be done with some kind of=20 > "enhanced Sustainiac" sort of thing=2C but a free standing stomp box=20 > doesn't seem likely. --=20 http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs = --_f3866842-7fbb-43fd-8375-915ec7a0f0e6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As some of you may know=2C I'm developing a low latency guitar synth plugin= =2C("Monolith") loosely based on the wonderful Minimoog but with a few mods= . I have been looking at the problem of how to apply envelopes to the guita= r input and opted =3Bfor an =3BA=2CD=2CG configuration - the G bein= g guitar of course. This means that what was previously the sustain part of= the envelope is under player control in terms of dynamics and certain tech= niques such as palm muting=2C ebow use=2C feedback etc. It works for me so = far - still ironing out some other issues at the mo but it will be finished= soon=2C SOON!!
 =3B
Peace
 =3B
G
 =3B
Date: Sun=2C 21 Nov 2010 07:51:51 +0000
From: cburke55@comcast.net
To= : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box
Hi Rainer=2C

I was thinking about this all day.

No= t really all that conservative=2C but I took Rick at his word about decoupl= ing the ADSR from a compressor and just went on basic principles from there= . =3B You nicely laid the whole problem out from there. =3B A guita= r is basically =2C"Attack / Decay"=2C and "SR" isn't really possible withou= t some kind of variable gain amplifier=2C and even then ADSR kind of presum= es that you have infinite sustain available. =3B Still not touching "R"= !

Since we're on sustain=2C though=2C I will mention that I just got= an Electro-Harmonix stompbox (I do not work for and am in no way affiliate= d with EH!) called a Freeze=2C which=2C when you step on the switch=2C take= s an instantaneous sample of whatever is going through it and sustains it i= nfinitely. =3B It's pretty cool!


----- Original Messa= ge -----
From: "Rainer Straschill" <=3Bmoinsound@googlemail.com>=3B<= BR>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Saturday=2C November 20= =2C 2010 12:03:55 PM
Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box

So that's probab= ly the "ultra-conservative guitarist" viewpoint you're
mentioning here = =3B).
Basically=2C I understand that Rick wants something like the envel= ope mode
in my trusted TC Triple-C=2C which is some huge fun on any kin= d of signal=2C
including (but not limited to) percussive sounds (i.e. s= ound without a
lot of "S").

However=2C as Rick asked for some ki= nd of ADSR without a compressor=2C I
believe there's a reason that both= usually come together. To make that
ADSR effect=2C you need next to th= e ADSR generator a VCA-kinda thing and a
threshold/envelope detector - = in short=2C functions which a compressor
already has=2C so it's easy to= make it also work as a compressor.

The aforementioned Triple-C=2C w= hile not being a stompbox (as Rick asked)=2C
is=2C as I said=2C huge fu= n. In addition to the highly creative envelope
mode=2C you can also run= it as a fullrange compressor-limiter or multiband
compressor-limiter c= ombo. And you get a sidechain input (and this is
where the ADSR functio= n really starts to get fun).

 =3B =3B  =3B  =3B &nbs= p=3B  =3BRainer

Christophe schrieb:
>=3B Probably because i= t doesn't really seem to make sense when applied to
>=3B a straight g= uitar signal. There's not a lot of "S" there and it's hard
>=3B to im= agine how you'd implement the "R".  =3BAnd then there's the problem >=3B of how to interface it with whatever effect you'd want to control w= ith
>=3B it=2C if any.  =3BPossibly the ADSR could be done with s= ome kind of
>=3B "enhanced Sustainiac" sort of thing=2C but a free st= anding stomp box
>=3B doesn't seem likely.


--
http://m= oinlabs.de
Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs

= --_f3866842-7fbb-43fd-8375-915ec7a0f0e6_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 10:15:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3507E3BE8C; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'Jeff Duke'" , References: Subject: RE: Rescuing damaged wav files Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:15:29 +0100 Message-ID: <761D40A8AE2B4CB493FD1926F803648E@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01CB896D.67F52230" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcuJX06nmjJs8vFDQIel1i0mazUb8gABZwSg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.4.98; VDF: 7.10.14.55) Resent-Message-ID: <-ZzLP.A.-HH.IFP6MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:15:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CB896D.67F52230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it worked like a charm !!! 1000 x thanks Jeff ! -Michael _____ From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:08 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rescuing damaged wav files http://www.sonicstudios.com/r-09revw.htm#memory (version 120 upgrade) Info on a firmware upgrade that may fix certain corrupt wavs with the Edirol. Roland has added a 'FILE FIX' utility that attempts repairing corrupted files inside the deck. There are user reports that some files do get fixed, others may not be repaired using this utility, but doesn't hurt to try.. Good luck! ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CB896D.67F52230 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
it worked like a charm !!!  1000 x thanks Jeff !  = -Michael

From: Jeff Duke = [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:08 PM
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Rescuing = damaged=20 wav files

http://www.sonic= studios.com/r-09revw.htm#memory =20 (version 120 upgrade)

Info on a firmware upgrade that may fix = certain=20 corrupt wavs with the Edirol.

Roland has added a 'FILE FIX' = utility=20 that attempts repairing corrupted files inside the deck. There are = user=20 reports that some files do get fixed, others may not be repaired using = this=20 utility, but doesn't hurt to try.. =


Good=20 luck! ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CB896D.67F52230-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 10:23:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18A0D3BE86; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 533532157/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.17.158/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.17.158 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwBAFWC6ExYbRGe/2dsb2JhbAAHlFzKIYVLBI1g X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,231,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="533532157" Message-ID: <4CE8F32C.1070306@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:23:40 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rescuing damaged wav files OT References: <0724273259284155A20AEAF685F34F58@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <0724273259284155A20AEAF685F34F58@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Change the file extension to something like .txt Then open them with Adobe Audition (aka Cool Edit) and try some different options for interpreting the data. (stereo 16bit....etc) I've done this with a file from the Zoom H2 and it's a breeze. andy Michael Peters wrote: > Somebody pulled the plug during the recording today. My Edirol R-09 doesn't > like that. One of the wav files has lots of megabytes but is apparently > empty. Does anyone know of a way to repair them? I assume the data itself > were written but some kind of header is missing. > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 11:05:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A9D13BE8C; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 536299725/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.17.158/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.17.158 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwBACKM6ExYbRGe/2dsb2JhbAAHgz6RHrpWjz6BIoM2cwSNYA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,231,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="536299725" Message-ID: <4CE8FD1A.4010209@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:06:02 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box Compressor-Sustainer References: <58851892.868742.1290302430612.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <58851892.868742.1290302430612.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:05:57 +0000 (UTC) EDWARD YUHAS wrote: > Forgive my unknowing, but what does ADSR stand for? Generally refers to 4 knobs marked Attack Decay Sustain Release. The ADSR has no sound of it's own, but has the ability to control other sounds. An example If the ADSR is controlling the volume of a note you play on a synthesizer. 1)You hold down a key, and the volume increases at the rate determined by *Attack*. 2)When the volume reaches a maximum, it straight away starts to reduce at a rate governed by *Decay*. 3)After it's decayed to a point determined by *Sustain* it remains constant until.. 4)When you take your finger off the key the sound fades at a rate determined by *Release*. An ADSR can be used to control other things apart from volume, typically filter frequency. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 12:35:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D7583BE86; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SSEwZt4YYVHVt29+iOMxfeVIOft0A9yEPX1YD/cJY/c=; b=qN3ELxkNQCBo9hJfHa2jQ3WH71kSmbB7satRQVNmalupA1wFawXS+PPbBl9RXJxDal siByUyeFXykJT3ZvIbhjTa7Yy1dzo12tJhr04WBJJED5C6wBqGmBjQ+bn4eHKUbjfAua 3DJ62dhp2DlNswhBckrkPwaZk37Fg6YiWBPRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TH/GxpDMJTzASKfltRbm4UAWHHxsqlUFLxBZGr3iE1BDovZ+/bJIxHL361ZVAf5aTp s2bOEO/yc0ircvzjuaCCiSv69cfXLT71VqBs14oADAQPjR+3tZnBwd3gRnlzgRYePC5r lvaYgR4yKDFwpxXJj9Xb/8ZuDdTLiRNYY/jUY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CE88016.4080600@cruzio.com> References: <4CE88016.4080600@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 13:35:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:35:52 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh, Last month I got caught when arriving to SFO San Francisco. I passed the security check fine but as I was waiting for my checked bag to come out a specially trained Security Dog leaped right at me and froze with its nose marking my cabin bag (containing flute, laptop and audio interface). The dog's man, an uniformed armed security officer, politely asked me if I had "food in my luggage", which I didn't think I had, until I remembered I had not eaten all my Scandinavian apples during the flight. So that was it. The guy kindly offered to toss my apples for me. No big deal, I soon found a lovely Californian fruit bowl to make up for the loss. Much worse last time when my 1929 tenor sax was "tagged as suspicious luggage and transported to a safe area for termination if not claimed by the owner within thirty minutes". During those thirty minutes no one informed me about where my checked in sax bag had gone. I found out by pure luck ("luck" here means running around SFO like a maniac asking any staff member about the missing sax case and finally entering the "restricted area" against the officer's order to grab the instrument case and claim it). I recently heard about security policies in Israel and it seems they are handling it in a smarter way. Instead of hoping to be able to empty the airport in case of a bomb is found (something that may take two days) they have built bomb save rooms that all passengers have to pass through for the security check. If "something dangarous" is found on a passenger they will only have to empty and lock up that particular room and the intermezzo will not cause harm to the rest of the airport traffic. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 15:32:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F3673BE8B; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cmTpOhTdfYPNGk3HdnGWTrf4kBUBlfQxMPbIhoDIAx8=; b=nBG9dW0bxtu8z6Kt5GZ3SUgbpEYxJngI810GQnBU5H5+6Khf+M53KFz5FGsz1z2Ons VcgLOiWv7hqJd2Gp61Ktd1ZVVEiiIMXdRdr91pj7c8bgfz92vclKSRgKTlxLssyLhcF/ n1JgpIX55IW8w79BrwkHVTIK2StJ1luqOhDoE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lq+Cf5T/fJzUR1+4GPyQqK2swtyMgXAKOWoAMJKoM58bxRlLlRWnHpVt0Ni1B69CEs fA8/xyGUEXqBG0fLdaTb8dayDbQ839A2ONpHFUJub4g6Vph/HBbndr8UemqBU+HJBmCc u6TqVwYfBhwF1xY2lcVCMup/fQVRx6ItHi9Lg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CE88016.4080600@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:32:45 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:32:47 +0000 (UTC) This coming to Y2K despite my simiLar preparation rick, meaning geqar isolation in cases that were checked, my oud to two hits. A tuning peg was broken as well as a crack in the side of the body. The frustarting thing is I paid Virgin 25 USD per bag (total $50) for care but truthfully its not care its profit no its outrage. I too have gone through take it all out and explain. Glad you are safely back. Digitsignal live today 12pm est on improvfriday http://improvfriday.ning.co= m Jim On 11/21/10, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >> Arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh, > > Last month I got caught when arriving to SFO San Francisco. > > I passed the security check fine but as I was waiting for my checked > bag to come out a specially trained Security Dog leaped right at me > and froze with its nose marking my cabin bag (containing flute, laptop > and audio interface). The dog's man, an uniformed armed security > officer, politely asked me if I had "food in my luggage", which I > didn't think I had, until I remembered I had not eaten all my > Scandinavian apples during the flight. So that was it. The guy kindly > offered to toss my apples for me. No big deal, I soon found a lovely > Californian fruit bowl to make up for the loss. > > Much worse last time when my 1929 tenor sax was "tagged as suspicious > luggage and transported to a safe area for termination if not claimed > by the owner within thirty minutes". During those thirty minutes no > one informed me about where my checked in sax bag had gone. I found > out by pure luck ("luck" here means running around SFO like a maniac > asking any staff member about the missing sax case and finally > entering the "restricted area" against the officer's order to grab the > instrument case and claim it). > > I recently heard about security policies in Israel and it seems they > are handling it in a smarter way. Instead of hoping to be able to > empty the airport in case of a bomb is found (something that may take > two days) they have built bomb save rooms that all passengers have to > pass through for the security check. If "something dangarous" is found > on a passenger they will only have to empty and lock up that > particular room and the intermezzo will not cause harm to the rest of > the airport traffic. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 16:14:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D78B93BE8C; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=elk+D0e+LrO2Q02vaS1Fk1JF/O83DH9DIGiiRRuDekw=; b=rbAJFIoXHoWEuZXPZPPQV0KAv3tP6rbR36YnpasanHSogisZ3ilupgejYYrCHcj0Mf 0pSE9PTl2u2V0Xsl951IvBoFLCQEDQAaYSjBZgxU0mFky3VHu12vSjNa4D82A1aJW8Wl QVFqHKarA8M0Pcg35evj8KyJRngltuZ/tFHa8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ha6JUuE1Vqcp1xqgf+PRlsgYkqREE5ooPzefFgM8yAmBzLdM/BjD4VapyuXRcIIpnV jnGS7P43hTzc2EDW9xYXm1XqEvns065JcfK5S3HVccG8Yyo5hJT+Ctr0oFLRfbetB0dS gIGmF1zEp/u9NzrgixApuEqQ5Xng8g0h5T8u8= Message-ID: <4CE9456E.7000501@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 17:14:38 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security References: <4CE88016.4080600@cruzio.com> <74DD7CF5-2B7C-49C3-BCAE-10E0995D2759@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: <74DD7CF5-2B7C-49C3-BCAE-10E0995D2759@zonemobius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson schrieb: > again obey hijackers. The rest has been an enormous waste of money. > I wouldn't agree that this has been an enormous waste of money. Sure, it's from your (the tax payer's) point of view, but it doesn't seem to me from the government's (aka the people who spend your money and try to keep you quiet and tame) point of view: Based on that unfitting rationale of "increasing air travel security in view of international Islamistic terrorism", governments have been more and more controlling our lives, invading our privacy and taken away our constitutional rights. From people getting harrassed enourmosly at the airport AND having come to accept this, it's only a small step to you being required to succumb to a cavity search whenever you're entering a government building to file a justified complaint or something. It had worked just fine February 1933 in Germany, why souldn't it work in the 21st century in all of Europe and North America? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 16:43:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 402BC3BE91; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE94C2E.3050101@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:43:26 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for November 20, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <68xI1.A.JZG.0wU6MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:43:32 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2010/101120.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #186 November 20, 2010. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com I also played music by Chuck van Zyl who will appear at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 5, 8:00 pm at the Nazareth Center for the arts. See http://soundscapes.us for details. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ministry of Inside Set 2, part 1 The Soundscapes Concert Series Things June 22, 2002 (none) VA [Venja] When Tribal Wizards Sequences No. 11 Dance VA [Frank Quasar] Ouveture Sequences No. 11 VA [Invisible a track from Sequences No. 11 Universe] "Echoes & Views" Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Darshan Ambient Talking Book A Day Within a Day (Lotuspike) Claudio Merlini Images of a Crystal The Colours of Music (A.D. Sun Music) The Reign of Kindo Flowers By the Moon This Is What Happens (Candyrat) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Spock's Beard Jaws of Heaven X (none) PBII In the Arms of a Plastic Soup (Progrock) Gemini Trey Gunn Contact I'll Tell What I Saw (7d) Trey Gunn Drunk I'll Tell What I Saw (7d) Trey Gunn Killing for London I'll Tell What I Saw (7d) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 16:52:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 788353BE93; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 143647.60519.bm@omp1030.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=fXbQg06JrhklJ3qX4rtECn6R4cLaZt3W+9cjq4KokVJ1aWWwa2In70He4sUoKYtZlDDujfaUi3g6EdQMHi7jL+CFIJQGsEVhDgXA1baLlUQhe3QjNVGsNrS9MsNYLQUm/WDD/0TjGJPTvqyfX0f4PwKT4IymxTeyWIMirZUvQ24= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1290358324; bh=a+PWV4BpMHn/f3q3l6p27hQMnNwS3Z+Mek5GdQKlXTo=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=PPnkrWerzt44O6ERf98ytIH+w3UpMB60jh9wIyXq5gD8GFc/w28Vxc4bHxnQ58iyiQxsBMTIEVGOrjeCIwonWoiFGXUd6KexJ+ugqjDVtiPzhAwpkV19NvHZOlwhoX4NY7GQ4+llIjMNhZ+mtPnJpsdPmofmHJSJTRs7JFQ9VyU= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: KnUc1vcVM1mb8tdjgqc5UOHnkximC5EyI1Z4xg_h0Jpd..q _XEROd3x8oTwj7AEOSuWdrPU4zMb.nKC0H48LqRJ0EQCg4CTL_zOXDzD1CI0 dd63S8ILQuSj5e21l0CsjTjp3ND.vqfxx33oGMjKUq_n5gikKKN7LCfiUnJs hnNjdWZptnXpkOjLdxQ8SQw2YA0M6H7aKwScJo3K5pzfdbFLDrBZwqbO3i.3 F9X825LLE8HqRE9MZtHNqCBG79qg8ysEYKTQUoQa8GI4cwjzMITqvcCDNgLs bo6TEhMOeWxUlnWSPSpF1.b73Mg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <389782C4-AF65-4AB5-AA7E-9E7D52BB1852@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10-665988394 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Webstream gig/real world gig Spam Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:51:57 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:52:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10-665988394 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey guys I'm doing a web stream gig here in an hour and a half: www.cafenoodle.ning.com and I'm doing a real world looping gig at Islington Academy supporting BJH if you fancy coming down :) Cheers Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-10-665988394 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Hey = guys 

I'm doing a web stream gig here in an hour = and a half:

www.cafenoodle.ning.com

and= I'm doing a real world looping gig at Islington Academy supporting BJH = if you fancy coming down  :)
mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com




= --Apple-Mail-10-665988394-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 16:54:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DADD73BE8E; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=MvkVscC8+s9ASYCR+EBCQJAaBBNMZfjY7V4HWRpTDKg=; b=e1YSwuRbDTmmNyNQkB6LnZ7CH32l/E32iUfeI0As8Ey2OnYv0UuCIDJUk9ouD4RAyY T7a65qtH2n1crQi0BWRWEabDgaqjdhK5RghEnDDFKtAW+sLwqKwRNbOcJcMXGTtLSNOR KUfXvJINUixwcSQzNKogazVsm3+5C/N5bD2GY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=AIiMULQtaRNwMJWQl/PeVRxKRGsnz/+Gdi0nVTvRn7/OmSuLRjfNyTFoK+0rao0h6X HesOhYoNM12ywhYC32ZG7s2Sm2qJAiXs23pvd6Fnm2P25DLNn0EtRg0/x29Xkoft1Bg9 tyAH0EzjJmzvnuVPLJbTKInTxBqnAtcAvmk94= Message-Id: <1A9DA22F-E47B-470C-8902-B7F0BAEA8281@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-666136290 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: looping on NPR Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:54:25 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:54:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-666136290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Segment on NPR Sunday Edition that mentions looping, briefly. http://www.npr.org/2010/11/18/131414141/claude-hay-building-a-better-song regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-2-666136290 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Segment on NPR Sunday Edition = that mentions looping, briefly.





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= --Apple-Mail-2-666136290-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 21 19:51:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 652B63BE95; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: review of BOSS SL-20 Slicer and description of my Noise Rig Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Hamburg X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <2df89cdbaab2f9fabf9d319ce46f269f.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:51:44 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2E754780-B931-4D60-A091-F31DFDB1D425@grubmah.com> References: <2df89cdbaab2f9fabf9d319ce46f269f.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Months later: Do you still love it? I've been pondering a pair of DD-20s (per Douglas Baldwin's suggestions) = feeding into an SL-20 as more or less an ambient pad into rhythmic pulse = thing. That said, an M9 would be a lot less expensive. Mark On Mar 6, 2010, at 2:48 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: >=20 > I own the Boss SL-20 and have had a lot of fun with it. >=20 > Currently, I'm using it in my Rhythm/Noise solo project called > 'AEther Engine' and also in the Japanese Noise band, 'Noise Clinic'. >=20 > I love resampling of loops so currently, I place this between my = first > floor > loopers (currently a Line 6 M9 but soon to be a Looperlative LP-2 MINI > looper) > and my Looperlative LP-1. >=20 > Additionally, in my rig, which, currently, is very noise based, my > routing goes like > this (I mention all this minutiae first so you can see how I use the = SL-20): >=20 > DESCRIPTION of RIG: >=20 > Guitar/Bass/Microphone/Shertler Pickup (for multiple instruments) =3D> > Line 6 M9 (looper and multi-effects) goes into Audio Input of =3D> > Walker Manual Glitch Pedal (for rhythmic and glitching manipulation of > Audio input > and generation of Pink Noise, > White Noise and Silence =3D> > DAED Disturbo DS-1 Distortion Synthesizer > (I love this fantastic mod of a normal Boss DS-1 Distortion pedal > --some very radical noises can be created by this unit =3D> > Zvex Fuzz Factory > (this unit's gate settings can also cause very hip, chaotic glitching > effects) =3D> > Boss SL-20 Slicer (more about this in a second) > Digitech DF-7 Distortion Factory (with many models of classic fuzzes = and > distortions) > (rotary knob goes from = dark > midrangey models to > very treble and fuzzy > models with discreet > square > wave tremelo between = each > knob click-very cool for > rhytym) > Ibanez Demon Wah (used as a gradual filter than as a wah wah effect) > Looperlative LP-1 Looper >=20 > split mono signal goes to > 1) Boss Miniature Bass Cube (with amp models and aforementioned = square > wave tremelo > effect between modellings) > 2) Vox Miniature Battery Powered Amp (with similar models and effects) >=20 > *I'm in a frenzy of distortion, fuzz and feedback lately, so I am > constantly swapping out > pedals for the DF-7 and Zvex Fuzz Factory (I love my Digitech Buzz = Box,=20 > my Digitech Meat Box, > Ibanez Bass Stack, Electro Harmoniz Bass Big Muff, Boss DS-20 = (distortion > modeler similar > but more sophisticated and with larger foot print than the Digitech = DF7), > Seymour Duncan Tweak Box, Pro Co Rat, Big Muff, Dunlp Fuzz Face, and = a > few other Boss distortion pedals. >=20 > This is all topped off by a huge marching bass drum and marching snare > with huge chains draped over them to acoustically simulate distortion. > It's a fun and HEAVY rig.........lol. >=20 >=20 >=20 > REVIEW of the BOSS SL-20 >=20 > I really love this device because I can set up all kinds of rhythmic > manipulations > but what I really love about it, is that it has an onboard mixer with = two > knobs > that control Dry Sound (no Rhythm) and Wet Sound (Rhythm effect). >=20 > Because it has two knobs I can do very, very subtle mixes in real time = of > noise > and rhythmic effects. >=20 > Additionally, the unit has the ability to control the envelope of the > rhythmic effect. > When the ADSR (as it were) is fully open and the noise content is = very > heavy, > this thing barely pulses (especially if I'm using different = distortions on > the back side of it). > One knob is really the Attack and the second knob controls the length = of > the Rhythmic Slice. >=20 > I can get very cool and very subtle manipulations of even the simplest > rhythms using these two knobs. >=20 > I'm not running in stereo so I don't use the stereo modes = conventionally, > but someone on this list (and please forgive me because I can't = remember > who it was right now without researching it) hipped me to the use of = the > Random panning mode of the unit: If you take a rhythmic > slice, put it in Random panning mode and then put a dummy plug into = one > side of the stereo > it means that though rhythmic (the sub pulse speed stays the same) = the > notes spit out will > be random. It's like if a hip drummer was putting out a constantly > changing ostinato rhythm > but always in the same time signature and with the same note division = (say > 16ths). >=20 > CRITIQUES: > I have to say that I love using this pedal in my current project but = that > normally, I just use it to spit out constant 8ths, triplet 8ths, = 16ths or > triplet 16ths. >=20 > I do this because I then rely on the extensive rhythmic editing > capabilities of my > Looperlative LP-1 which is last in my chain. >=20 > I can do so much glitching, replacing, time signature dimunition or > augmentation (creating > new time signatures out of the straight time signatures spit out by = the > SL-20) > that I don't mind this limitation to much. >=20 > I do wish , however, that one could create customized rhythms for the > slicer, but > this is why, frankly, I created the Walker Manual Glitch Pedal. >=20 > All in all, with only having a single guitar chord or even just = touching a > live line cable > to introduce initial noise, I have a very sophisticated ability to = sculpt > things rhythmically. > I just do it with three devices (Lp1, Sl-20, Walker Manual Glitch) >=20 > I still have not checked out all the rhythms in the unit, by the way, > mostly because > I'm not too interested in having a single static rhythm through my = pieces > of music unless > they are monolithically static like straight and constant subdivision. >=20 > I really dig the SL-20! >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 22 00:57:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 849F13BE87; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 00:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 371 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 00:57:07 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3jtQBdTzPyV+fq4oCU/u8ZPrJJGN11HvhaDVxyWhycI= c=1 sm=0 a=g6iMwtru6HAA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=mh+FvEA7I3/2BJh8eSJ0ZQ==:17 a=RXhYDjIAXUEXU6U1vwQA:9 a=DaOfeA6Z4W2XYkNPPnlcOubBpEIA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=mh+FvEA7I3/2BJh8eSJ0ZQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 173.88.214.139 Message-ID: <4CE9C100.30002@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 20:01:52 -0500 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100914 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security References: <4CE88016.4080600@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2F3pg.A.MDH.j_b6MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 00:57:07 +0000 (UTC) On 11/21/10 7:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Much worse last time when my 1929 tenor sax was "tagged as suspicious > luggage and transported to a safe area for termination if not claimed > by the owner within thirty minutes". Years ago, before 9/11, I was actually strip-searched coming back into the US through La Guardia. I was young, and I had tenor and soprano saxes as carry-ons; I guess in the squinty-eyed suspicious world of airport security I very likely was a drug-smuggler. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 22 01:38:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB42E3BE8E; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VQyK+DViMEY2Q3cWFEIfIRLpqwv030kjOXY/gUJbQoA=; b=Rj6svcVJlbb35M0SmGyy+zfEEQqUXqUt8WrPPE6/98l4BXdlFmPqLSWOGjSrrfQHDA 9O+rUuKjNMM2+rI+9T3H5GX7BEcPjvb5QmZ4z3WKLLgdmPSNDeeXu+NrLZGwxRRbD3fN fr8OK3Dz6995XkXMdk3EJv7kQIW6gIN/Bu0QE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=L9x0ullxx4bQH0nThXTjYcaW+VIUA6+COLIMuDaGR//fmfvP9rvFQ25gNkhEncpCvz tGOES0mu1sfS4W3ieSp5nGDvuvm1iIp7LX8Dpa+o0CXo5VMwl4ZKOobdc9DsjXnOB+w/ hrKI+6YORq9YT8Tbz6pItbjb4BwVm9796AaFU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CE9C100.30002@gmail.com> References: <4CE88016.4080600@cruzio.com> <4CE9C100.30002@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 17:38:39 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security From: "Nobody's Pants" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f585cc247404959a5001 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:38:40 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f585cc247404959a5001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I guess I don't understand how strip-searching you helps them determine if your sax cases are hiding drugs. :-/ Security theater at its finest. On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Brian Good wrote: > On 11/21/10 7:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Much worse last time when my 1929 tenor sax was "tagged as suspicious >> luggage and transported to a safe area for termination if not claimed >> by the owner within thirty minutes". >> > > Years ago, before 9/11, I was actually strip-searched coming back into the > US through La Guardia. I was young, and I had tenor and soprano saxes as > carry-ons; I guess in the squinty-eyed suspicious world of airport security > I very likely was a drug-smuggler. > > Brian > > > --00163630f585cc247404959a5001 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I guess I don't understand how strip-searching you helps them determine= if your sax cases are hiding drugs.=A0 :-/=A0

Security theater at = its finest.



On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 = at 5:01 PM, Brian Good <bsgood@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/21/10 7:35 = AM, Per Boysen wrote:

Much worse last time when my 1929 tenor sax was "tagged as suspicious<= br> luggage and transported to a safe area for termination if not claimed
by the owner within thirty minutes".

Years ago, before 9/11, I was actually strip-searched coming back into the = US through La Guardia. I was young, and I had tenor and soprano saxes as ca= rry-ons; I guess in the squinty-eyed suspicious world of airport security I= very likely was a drug-smuggler.

Brian



--00163630f585cc247404959a5001-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 22 02:30:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A44373BE8C; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 02:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CE9D5BE.303@theambientping.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:30:22 -0500 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 11.23.10 > The PiNG presents AMOEBA STARFISH + MICHAEL HOLCER,+ EQO2 + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <_WnCFB.A.wu.EXd6MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 02:30:28 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11.23.10 THE AMBiENT PiNG presents DECRYiNG CENSORSHiP featuring AMOEBA STARFISH + MICHAEL HOLCER + EQO2 + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market . just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact Tues. Nov. 23rd . Doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . 8:30 . AMOEBA STARFISH . Featuring one of our favourite space guitarists Phil Ogison along with laptop percussionist Jeff Howard, AMOEBA STARFISH combines elements of groove, chill, space and psychedelia in equal proportions, at times tribal, at times alien, a combination of the earth and the stars, sure to intrigue, soothe and excite. Phil and Jeff opened the 2010 PiNG season when they performed as Phil's The Devil In The Design project and this band was born as a result, so it seems fitting that they close out this year's PiNG model. . 9:30 . EQO2 . BE with EQO2 LiVE for "MOVING THE SPACE" - The debut music performance by Benjamin Elfassy (multi-percussionist & synth-groove artist) and Eric Hopper (aka Sylken on keys, synths, effects) . . . enjoy smooth synth-grooves with live percussion, morphing atmos, ambient soundscapes, ethnic overtones and musical motions . . . moving the space. . 10:30 . MICHAEL HOLCER . For the last PiNG set of 2010 Michael will perform 5 shorter pieces - a few were prepared for the Ricochet Dream electronic music festival that Michael played in Europe recently although for the PiNG he'll be doing less sequence-heavy versions as is appropriate for the ambient stage. He'll also be performing a new composition which attempts to balance the landscapes of ambient worlds with a touch of motion, rhythm and forward momentum. . GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . Wash out your eyes and make sure that your lenses are clean as General Chaos Visuals' Stephen Lindsey and Eric Siegerman will be back to paint the house with light throughout the night. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . free download - the latest ping things net label release: "stratification" by URM ping things latest release is "stratification" by URM, the latest solo release from Jamie Todd (also of dreamSTATE, SADU and NOiNO). On "stratification", Jamie unleashes a sonic suite of sequences and soundscapes, six songs strung together in a continuous hour long audio journey. With an influx of new audio toys (lots of new synths, efx and sequencers) in the URM arsenal, stratification is a tasty mix of sequencer driven Berlin School electronics combined with haunting ambient soundscapes, seasoned with that little bit of weirdness that Jamie has always been so fond of. "stratification" is available for free download as an 139Mb Zip file containing the full release in mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on this release is copyright Jamie Todd 2010 and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's express permission. http://www.archive.org/download/ptnr023/stratification.zip Check out the ping things blog for more free downloadable releases from the ping things net label. http://pingthings.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Immersion Station - an iPhone App by Steve Roach and Eric Freeman Ambient music pioneer Steve Roach announced the release of Immersion Station, an iPhone App that allows you to create infinite ambient music. Using core loops, drones and sounds from the heart of Steve’s collection, users can sculpt their own never-ending soundscapes for deep listening, meditation, yoga, working at the computer, reading and sleeping. The App was created in collaboration with computer scientist and software artist Eric Freeman, and offers users an interface in which to create custom soundscapes. Reflective of Steve’s aesthetic, the interface is based on a set of spheres, each representing a loop, that are presented in a pseudo-3D space, allowing the user to control the mix via simple multitouch gestures. The interface is intuitive and easy to use for causal users while satisfying for audio experts and hardcore fans of Steve’s music. The interface also allows users to incubate new mixes automatically by evolving the mix over time. This first release of Immersion Station includes five core loops from Steve’s soundworlds that comprise thirty-five minutes of source material. These core loops can be combined into an astronomically large set of mix combinations. Recommended for headphones or external speakers. More info here: http://immersionstation.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 22 02:59:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C27D3BE8B; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 02:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3jtQBdTzPyV+fq4oCU/u8ZPrJJGN11HvhaDVxyWhycI= c=1 sm=0 a=g6iMwtru6HAA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=mh+FvEA7I3/2BJh8eSJ0ZQ==:17 a=ONbuR041jyl9eTBLgI0A:9 a=87m_jKGE-Xt2x1oSF7qzid1PEu0A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=mh+FvEA7I3/2BJh8eSJ0ZQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 173.88.214.139 Message-ID: <4CE9BF8D.1040809@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:55:41 -0500 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100914 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Getting Looping Gear through US Homeland Airport Security References: <4CE88016.4080600@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4CE88016.4080600@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 02:59:28 +0000 (UTC) On 11/20/10 9:12 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > My big luggage has my instruments in it (and my Line 6 M9 and Boss PS-5 > Pitch Shifter) > all surrounded by clothing. > > I asked that it have a 'Fragile' sticker on it. > > When I got it off the plane, the 'Fragile' sticker was completely thrashes > from where the plane handlers had thrown the bag. > > I watched them hurl it through the air on top of other luggage without > any regard. I think in the weird language of baggage handlers "fragile" translates as "Hulk smash now!!!" Once I was sitting on a plane, idly watching the crew loading the luggage, when I saw some evil mutant pick up my tenor sax (a new Selmer Mk VI that I loved more than anything), hoist it shoulder-high, and drop it onto the conveyor. Fortunately, it was in a hard case, so I was sure it hadn't been damaged. Or so I thought. When I tried to play a couple days later, I found that the the whole side of the horn's body was caved in. The bastards denied any responsibility--they pointed to one of those tiny-print clauses in the ticket "contract"--so I wasn't even able to get reimbursed. Fortunately, I had a repair tech with god-like abilities, and he fixed the instrument, with only a couple discolorations from the torch. Years later, when I heard that airline went bankrupt, I couldn't help giggling. Yeah, it was probably incompetent management, but I like to think of it as karmic payback. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 22 10:57:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BB473BE8F; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=80B0q679FOLgc2SYTiMe0w6vReUvkO4YMr6Yf94sdBA=; b=hcwodPZYq14srrUFv5WRfqmL/yII5cY4zsi0qNdpxbZJdxVyyeSW4iI/STjrELkjhx PFLcsdS29mg5yOXCmpJrLfIocaG9OrCglZdNNKqiSyBo5AFtvWLAXmE3ESjN9Cmkxtpv y1YuPrnkb0ZLvGNgz1dpzZxZJjk0ZFHfQ/uXU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VwXRYAYqU7/k8sFnIf5nH0+M+QJnuxrY9YqOkJORaLLsA92m2JTHopE5T4SQgxjMWK TqIo/JLsh3Tj2SG8VJ057Nzp+4QmGs0UpYAbDHGXE4dS4bby3mjVAGg93IKx8v/zaIuP QWy7tzRA4Q5gBM5odyg/L/N9awiYkT+ku2izw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:57:55 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Free Download of "Mecca" From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d58cfcddd7780495a22049 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:57:57 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d58cfcddd7780495a22049 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As part of a chart service here in NI, the title track, "Mecca," is available for free download! Please pass on the link. http://www.datafilehost.com/download-eb35b2b8.html Ricky --0016e6d58cfcddd7780495a22049 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As part of a chart service here in NI, the title track, "Mecca," = is available for free download! Please pass on the link.

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--0016e6d58cfcddd7780495a22049-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 22 13:19:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6E9F3BE8D; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3608 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:19:53 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=3 spamscore=3 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1011220052 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-11-22_06:2010-11-22,2010-11-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: James Richmond Subject: Echoplex question: 1/2speed and reverse from the footpedal Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:19:01 +0000 Message-id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Hi people, I've been offline for ages- just resubscribed. Have a question with the EDP. Can I have 1/2 speed and reverse easily footswitchable from the pedal and if so how can I do it? The only way I can seem to do both is redefining insert on the fly which isnt ideal. I would be happy to sacrifice 'Undo' or 'Next Loop' to have them both available. Regards, Jim Richmond From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 22 13:54:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D47EA3BE8C; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 528350343/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.180.24/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.180.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcBAE8E6kxV0rQY/2dsb2JhbAAHlEnLOYVLBI1g X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,236,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="528350343" Message-ID: <4CEA7614.8040300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:54:28 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex question: 1/2speed and reverse from the footpedal References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:54:20 +0000 (UTC) hi James, simple answer....no you can't. You'll need a midi footcontroller to do that. Don't forget you can get Reverse from the font panel by pressing Param>>Undo andy butler James Richmond wrote: > Hi people, > > I've been offline for ages- just resubscribed. > Have a question with the EDP. > > Can I have 1/2 speed and reverse easily footswitchable from the pedal and if so how can I do it? > > The only way I can seem to do both is redefining insert on the fly which isnt ideal. > I would be happy to sacrifice 'Undo' or 'Next Loop' to have them both available. > > Regards, > > Jim Richmond > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 22 17:39:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE8833BE8D; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1011220121 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-11-22_08:2010-11-22,2010-11-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Subject: Re: Echoplex question: 1/2speed and reverse from the footpedal From: James Richmond In-reply-to: <4CEA7614.8040300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:39:30 +0000 Message-id: References: <4CEA7614.8040300@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy, Ok, I figured as much. I have a GCP in my rig but I was hoping to avoid splitting functions across two pedals. Tanks, Jim On 22 Nov 2010, at 13:54, andy butler wrote: > hi James, > simple answer....no you can't. > > > You'll need a midi footcontroller to do that. > > Don't forget you can get Reverse from the font panel by pressing Param>>Undo > > andy butler > > James Richmond wrote: >> Hi people, I've been offline for ages- just resubscribed. >> Have a question with the EDP. >> Can I have 1/2 speed and reverse easily footswitchable from the pedal and if so how can I do it? >> The only way I can seem to do both is redefining insert on the fly which isnt ideal. >> I would be happy to sacrifice 'Undo' or 'Next Loop' to have them both available. >> Regards, Jim Richmond > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 22 19:31:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44E343BE8C; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:31:23 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius question-saving all From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362845f42781400495a94d17 Resent-Message-ID: <7OPO.A.j2C.NUs6MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:31:25 +0000 (UTC) --0016362845f42781400495a94d17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Everything you can configure in Mobius is saved in two files: mobius.xml has the MIDI assignments, presets and other things and ui.xml has things related to the user interface. On Windows these are in c:\Program Files\Mobius, on Mac they are in /Library/Application Support/Mobius. You can just copy these files then replace the ones that came with a new installation. You can also use this to transfer configuration to another machine, or between Windows and Mac. I don't know about the saved audio files. Do you see them in the folder but Mobius won't load them, or are they not in the folder at all? Jeff On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > H folks, > I want to save everything i programmed in mobius,that is all the notes im > sending frm my foot controller,presets,etc. i thought in the past i had done > it correctly but i was not able to retireve them > would you be so kind to tell me how i can do this correctly? > Also ive done may recordings with previous versions of mobius and saved > them all in a folder,then i reformated my computer and installed a new > version of mobius but i cant seem to open them anymore are they lost? > thanx a lot! > Luis --0016362845f42781400495a94d17 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Everything you can configure in Mobius is saved in two files: mobius.xml ha= s the MIDI assignments, presets and other things
and ui.xml has things = related to the user interface. =A0On Windows these are in c:\Program Files\= Mobius, on Mac
they are in /Library/Application Support/Mobius. =A0You can just copy = these files then replace the ones that
came with a new installati= on. =A0 You can also use this to transfer configuration to another machine,= or between
Windows and Mac. =A0

I don't know about t= he saved audio files. =A0Do you see them in the folder but Mobius won't= load them,
or are they not in the folder at all? =A0
<= br>
Jeff



On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail= .com> wrote:
H folks,
I want to save everything i pro= grammed in=20 mobius,that is all the notes im sending frm my foot=20 controller,presets,etc. i thought in the past i had done it correctly but i= was not able to retireve them
would you be so kind to tell me how i ca= n do=20 this correctly?
Also ive done may recordings with previous=20 versions of mobius and saved them all in a folder,then i reformated my=20 computer and installed a new version of mobius but i cant seem to open=20 them anymore are they lost?
thanx a lot!
Luis

--0016362845f42781400495a94d17-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 08:42:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DD783BE8A; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: bandcamp rules Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:42:14 +0100 Message-ID: <85088332F46B4BB7836AF1087B4F8CBF@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcuK6lOAr2v/thAYTd+9kY0Jvd/yRQ== X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.4.112; VDF: 7.10.14.75) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from lawyer speak into something that simple minds like me can understand? is there anything I should be worried about? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 08:43:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 513393BE84; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 166630.26244.bm@omp1032.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=kB46B51E3Zt6F1bbih0Dt3Q0l30gDpPLwfLqppBv1xP7+K9yqCN/MmiRZnei6fwbkjq3twVEAXVCnV9LIoKnZAf7f2HSF9mIRzt8yP3hoZroyivEVpBsGMqxcNU69bIaYPH8ZqARCTy8omzXqL8z+jpte2ePOMR8GosA3NlaWvA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1290501826; bh=1OS0Z1KXfTloXJdVuEUZzI/kIKbib2KTpi9BKBZ/OgE=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=upt3rbVMvttW35HXpFoVEhmDg1S6LJ6yY0DHzW8PaHtbxOs2NJ+wnATy57gEW5WUkyFl11UEonT5oIdwD2P9sgMLbZjWd9VUwkQU0BDqLGWKJZ4HsX+xCWr5TCoj/hBq9NqfVToQhrD5249dSJIuvBUlodafpfbJ83zP8tPGhaw= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: dYU5CtoVM1kprCK5lkjoByPq_D15lVdonHfKDZihlu1NeGi .VPIDQyEgsPxDKYZw9TTAJCDrFJz3x1pjjJkOV0u.kMRW9Lay2lNY3xSNOxB 5NiVLmm1bjFmIDn2DKSBjeLnTptG28XiY7F48l4yWCJFEeKao3IpYn95bIL3 m30gqQQL_FYOIdaZOu_Lg6KT.rlCx09.jwRmnnny6HirUireFbamJpReKeD4 mWF8Iou9WA9bMIZeGyy9YbahfFbLb177VtMlLxlE8Ep8kBQsQHhveGDbbLiI r5ULVVIxP.2.7n.bMds4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <85088332F46B4BB7836AF1087B4F8CBF@mpeserver> References: <85088332F46B4BB7836AF1087B4F8CBF@mpeserver> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-809491577 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: bandcamp rules Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:43:40 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:43:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-809491577 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Don't think so - Steve Lawson went thru them the other day. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 23 Nov 2010, at 08:42, Michael Peters wrote: > Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from lawyer > speak into > something that simple minds like me can understand? is there > anything I > should be worried about? -Michael > --Apple-Mail-5-809491577 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Don't think so - Steve Lawson went thru them the other = day.

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On 23 Nov 2010, = at 08:42, Michael Peters wrote:

Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use = from lawyer speak into
something that simple minds = like me can understand?  = is there anything I
should be = worried about? -Michael


= --Apple-Mail-5-809491577-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 11:22:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 618B53BE87; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AWYx/89nnYz+djtlbWNpXehxPstAGINmFgc0tbecNrE=; b=Vz7kjAC1f2ODBKQUXMKanra5r8ToIcxW5FmJOOMsAh4S3wJX3v3kqSQEsjMdzR+QKG kAvRXOXolZ8OYc3XmJoCYXbsOKIF2MT8qBUOJ/u0kUeLYAZI01j9JomHE6Yj6kiJNwsi zUpScglJh/cf2pYGA2jwuGdE0r94OYDe2HUxg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cQoPK0dkScXT5PcPJgNEegh0/An0n6Wd3YG7/a86M+jFrI/JORQXSmrK2SBRujSQUr vzO9gYe/Gs5mfVMeWUa0KvaRaG6BAN1f8eFIQe8mwyMS/wwCB/uGFBw/cPuAHalMKIvG EO5aPSFLPFXWSde9JL9D9bNZLvhIsZFnDQZnE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <85088332F46B4BB7836AF1087B4F8CBF@mpeserver> References: <85088332F46B4BB7836AF1087B4F8CBF@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:22:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bandcamp rules From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:22:19 +0000 (UTC) I didn't see anything evil in there. I mean, if you're talking about the recent restrictions in free givaways? We still have the option to give free download codes to media people for promotion, this useful feature has not changed. I think it is good that Bandcamp is not becoming a free music hub because if that should be allowed Nathan and the crew wouldn't be able to keep the service up. Server space and donuts still cost money ;-) Just "for safety's sake": if you may provide a link to the specific text you're talking about it may help this discussion. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from lawyer speak into > something that simple minds like me can understand? =C2=A0is there anythi= ng I > should be worried about? -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 11:39:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C91953BE8B; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xMcnHc4vIO7I9SqhIOxEx/VFP2KTvyLrxYpZjdMwCW4=; b=Jm+DK6Syvut/F1XMHe5OdRV92EOT7gpAjfMNlwDENYqswH3n23GcedMBLFo57X+zoo ZOmYZuOYTblnK6g3K1S3s1fy9msb/wljecoFZZfpciRVWtSzsPNlFBRlAuUZLh/Nfj5Q 8YSD/HV7lp5fcr9CtN6RMwoYX7TSLvXuAErIQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vjSUsMjqyfuSmJ6zc+5nEqae3vCK0s5u/D78ri0dJ308X2MU/BHLprNVTsoA9v4Z3j hha/gsXPibeipntqSijZgb8gx78uJHkhvuP7zByECKWC2cMe/gYRGmPhCO+ouVLhlo7W 5eSGLJFAbKMFwZ4Wx7SwIRonlmiX83I0cCDag= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:39:44 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Free Download of "Mecca" From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d58cfc3c9e3e0495b6d431 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:39:46 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d58cfc3c9e3e0495b6d431 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not sure that my mail made it through before? Apologies for any double posts. As part of a chart service here in NI, the title track, "Mecca," is available for free download! Please pass on the link. http://www.datafilehost.com/download-eb35b2b8.html Ricky --0016e6d58cfc3c9e3e0495b6d431 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not sure that my mail made it through before? Apologies for any double post= s. As part of a chart service here in NI, the title track, "Mecca,&quo= t; is available for free download! Please pass on the link.

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Ricky --0016e6d58cfc3c9e3e0495b6d431-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 13:19:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90C193BE8A; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:19:45 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e791a265-f4c6-49cc-a06e-78a11833cbc7_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: EDP Brother Sync cable Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:14:41 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2010 13:14:44.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[6564BEF0:01CB8B10] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:19:45 +0000 (UTC) --_e791a265-f4c6-49cc-a06e-78a11833cbc7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmm just a quick question if anyone can help i want to have another try at the brother sync for echoplexes. I now own 4 EDPS=20 what i need to know is if it needs to be a closed loop or not =20 IE does it need to go:=20 tip1> tip2> tip3> tip4>back to tip1 =20 shield1>shield2>shield3>shield4>back to shield1 (where a tip and = shield =3D one jack and >=3D one wire) also it would help me visualise my needs better if i understood WHAT excact= ly is carried down each channel. is it a pulse code=2C an audio tick a CV ?= ? thanks in advance. Phill = --_e791a265-f4c6-49cc-a06e-78a11833cbc7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmm just a quick question if anyone can help

i want to have another try at the brother sync for echoplexes.

<= br>I now own 4 EDPS

what i need to know is =3B if it needs to b= e =3B a closed loop or not

 =3B IE does it need to go:

 =3B =3B =3B =3B tip1>=3B&= nbsp=3B =3B =3B =3B tip2>=3B =3B =3B =3B tip3>= =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B tip4>=3Bback to tip1 =3B
shie= ld1>=3Bshield2>=3Bshield3>=3Bshield4>=3Bback to shield1 =3B&nbs= p=3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B (where= a tip and shield =3D one jack =3B and >=3B=3D one wire)

also it would help me visualise my needs better if i understood WHAT excact= ly is carried down each channel. is it a pulse code=2C an audio tick a CV ?= ?


thanks in advance.

Phill
= --_e791a265-f4c6-49cc-a06e-78a11833cbc7_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 13:37:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0ED1F3BE8A; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8m6ej9YO6E73qyTeISZUzgSwen3XBEN2frV5xROhGTg=; b=ver8Mng9I8l0Q2sx6fWE/93YR0qYL2VbfvFLFrxg8P3UJVTAAkueAf40d04QULh5nl 6RMnM2fMB1Uy8B1CueME5jA5gLGdSJEBuuAcI9F6E82Sz8n0jmghv8ZVrgKC5ycpIJR0 4yDOTOzNXhB3npLeOHhmZrFKaXAgIBxW9ODQI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=HZUnoGROfcM1BKcDyaL7zUaCjn8895J3DbEkpEVzJabORfl0+9MtBDz9PIrfczDRa1 6XktxR2lQYgbcrtUhb7tw/oL0Olr+DC6UQY4BkOAfgcpox4toV2heW6JZL2h18EpUiH2 uJJuQV5RijRiUI49xB+ERFCMB2V35b1Jgm5Jk= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:38:25 +0100 Message-ID: <-6447664848674873567@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: EDP Brother Sync cable To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:37:55 +0000 (UTC) I don't think it needs to go back to edp 1 to make a loop. Y cables do it... M Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 23 Nov 2010, at 14:19, phillip wilson wrote: > hmm just a quick question if anyone can help > > i want to have another try at the brother sync for echoplexes. > > > I now own 4 EDPS > > what i need to know is if it needs to be a closed loop or not > > IE does it need to go: > > tip1> tip2> tip3> tip4>back to tip1 > shield1>shield2>shield3>shield4>back to shield1 (where a tip and shield = one jack and >= one wire) > > also it would help me visualise my needs better if i understood WHAT excactly is carried down each channel. is it a pulse code, an audio tick a CV ?? > > > thanks in advance. > > Phill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 14:31:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A1A13BE8D; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 537404766/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.27.249/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.27.249 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYBAC5f60xYbRv5/2dsb2JhbAAHlCkxzEaCdYJWBI1hgns X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,242,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="537404766" Message-ID: <4CEBD036.7010809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:31:18 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP Brother Sync cable References: <-6447664848674873567@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <-6447664848674873567@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:31:06 +0000 (UTC) In this case, an 'N' cable. iirc tip: carries the oscillator frequency. any edps will link using akind of 2 way phase locked loop circuit. ring: carries a pulse at loop start andy mark francombe wrote: > I don't think it needs to go back to edp 1 to make a loop. Y cables do it... > > M > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 23 Nov 2010, at 14:19, phillip wilson wrote: > >> hmm just a quick question if anyone can help >> >> i want to have another try at the brother sync for echoplexes. >> >> >> I now own 4 EDPS >> >> what i need to know is if it needs to be a closed loop or not >> >> IE does it need to go: >> >> tip1> tip2> tip3> tip4>back to tip1 >> shield1>shield2>shield3>shield4>back to shield1 (where a tip and shield = one jack and >= one wire) >> >> also it would help me visualise my needs better if i understood WHAT excactly is carried down each channel. is it a pulse code, an audio tick a CV ?? >> >> >> thanks in advance. >> >> Phill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 16:59:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 790E53BE87; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=0ukeV4BUoEwOiy12x+iMnNKPFYkiiRPnzn5NRZEp/0c=; b=BpCDYTFBt6ldx0ATyePrIsnXvffT8hlo/pW8TYaVY2ZNF+C1V7VQqff1Szk/ItDJ32 20w5msRrhUki2q1X3x2W1A6FAuDFaUPC78CZPdxnwkWaGlEnkv7lj3R0LHy60i/J6W3k qDCdry5dmgs4/Fior0TnZvwQ6IQV53uHZCLm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KHEl/Z2zB+lIS1BtsCnaORgrqse9qdSHilmBvKOCNXnkCL3lmRk6D4FSUsYT6FD1RC TRXanm1dTxL70intDAYKKGVKmKY8KWCf/nJa9CLxIXOWjXuki+jUZHTZo94EtxHA3HO5 a1kpKd9EAyMh6bmbfzyBlAlOt0jFQXhKOcDME= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <85088332F46B4BB7836AF1087B4F8CBF@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:58:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: RBKNTbkh5NjmyR2NbjkYYypGpmM Message-ID: Subject: Re: bandcamp rules From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd8c82edf2300495bb4933 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:59:00 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd8c82edf2300495bb4933 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been using BandCamp for a while, now. I like it. Many of my friends use it. Seems pretty legit to me. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Per Boysen Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:22 AM Subject: Re: bandcamp rules To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I didn't see anything evil in there. I mean, if you're talking about the recent restrictions in free givaways? We still have the option to give free download codes to media people for promotion, this useful feature has not changed. I think it is good that Bandcamp is not becoming a free music hub because if that should be allowed Nathan and the crew wouldn't be able to keep the service up. Server space and donuts still cost money ;-) Just "for safety's sake": if you may provide a link to the specific text you're talking about it may help this discussion. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from lawyer speak into > something that simple minds like me can understand? is there anything I > should be worried about? -Michael > > --0016e6dd8c82edf2300495bb4933 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been using BandCamp for a while, now. I like it. Many of my friend= s use it. Seems pretty legit to me.

----= ------ Forwarded message ----------
From: = Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: bandcamp rules
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com


I didn't see anything evil in there. I mea= n, if you're talking about
the recent restrictions in free givaways? We still have the option to
give free download codes to media people for promotion, this useful
feature has not changed. I think it is good that Bandcamp is not
becoming a free music hub because if that should be allowed Nathan and
the crew wouldn't be able to keep the service up. Server space and
donuts still cost money ;-)

Just "for safety's sake": if you may provide a link to the sp= ecific
text you're talking about it may help this discussion.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from lawyer speak i= nto
> something that simple minds like me can understand? =A0is there anythi= ng I
> should be worried about? -Michael
>
>


--0016e6dd8c82edf2300495bb4933-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 19:35:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA4E73BE8E; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <0D654C9C-C869-4BBF-BEA5-FE722082AAEE@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-125-848613395 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: bandcamp rules Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:35:42 -0800 References: <85088332F46B4BB7836AF1087B4F8CBF@mpeserver> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <0HksI.A.xk.QeB7MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:35:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-125-848613395 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm a big bandcamp fan. I've been using their service to sell my music since June. On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:58 AM, daniel wrote: > I've been using BandCamp for a while, now. I like it. Many of my > friends use it. Seems pretty legit to me. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Per Boysen > Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:22 AM > Subject: Re: bandcamp rules > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > I didn't see anything evil in there. I mean, if you're talking about > the recent restrictions in free givaways? We still have the option to > give free download codes to media people for promotion, this useful > feature has not changed. I think it is good that Bandcamp is not > becoming a free music hub because if that should be allowed Nathan and > the crew wouldn't be able to keep the service up. Server space and > donuts still cost money ;-) > > Just "for safety's sake": if you may provide a link to the specific > text you're talking about it may help this discussion. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > > Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from lawyer > speak into > > something that simple minds like me can understand? is there > anything I > > should be worried about? -Michael > > > > > > --Apple-Mail-125-848613395 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm a big bandcamp fan. I've = been using their service to sell my music since = June.

On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:58 AM, daniel = wrote:

I've been using BandCamp for a while, now. I like it. Many = of my friends use it. Seems pretty legit to me.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: = Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
= Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: bandcamp = rules
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com


I didn't see anything evil in there. I = mean, if you're talking about
the recent restrictions in free = givaways? We still have the option to
give free download codes to = media people for promotion, this useful
feature has not changed. I = think it is good that Bandcamp is not
becoming a free music hub = because if that should be allowed Nathan and
the crew wouldn't be = able to keep the service up. Server space and
donuts still cost = money ;-)

Just "for safety's sake": if you may provide a link = to the specific
text you're talking about it may help this = discussion.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael = Peters <mp@mpeters.de> = wrote:
> Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from = lawyer speak into
> something that simple minds like me can = understand?  is there anything I
> should be worried about? = -Michael
>
>

=


= --Apple-Mail-125-848613395-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 19:55:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 866023BE8D; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0D654C9C-C869-4BBF-BEA5-FE722082AAEE@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-131-849778516 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: bandcamp rules Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:55:07 -0800 References: <85088332F46B4BB7836AF1087B4F8CBF@mpeserver> <0D654C9C-C869-4BBF-BEA5-FE722082AAEE@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:55:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-131-849778516 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit also, i think 10% is a good deal for what they do. i did some research into other services and bandcamp was the most well designed and the most responsive in terms of customer support. it was free for a long time and i was actually relieved when they started charging because that makes me hopeful they won't disappear! On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > I'm a big bandcamp fan. I've been using their service to sell my > music since June. > > On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:58 AM, daniel wrote: > >> I've been using BandCamp for a while, now. I like it. Many of my >> friends use it. Seems pretty legit to me. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Per Boysen >> Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:22 AM >> Subject: Re: bandcamp rules >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> >> I didn't see anything evil in there. I mean, if you're talking about >> the recent restrictions in free givaways? We still have the option to >> give free download codes to media people for promotion, this useful >> feature has not changed. I think it is good that Bandcamp is not >> becoming a free music hub because if that should be allowed Nathan >> and >> the crew wouldn't be able to keep the service up. Server space and >> donuts still cost money ;-) >> >> Just "for safety's sake": if you may provide a link to the specific >> text you're talking about it may help this discussion. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael Peters >> wrote: >> > Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from lawyer >> speak into >> > something that simple minds like me can understand? is there >> anything I >> > should be worried about? -Michael >> > >> > >> >> > --Apple-Mail-131-849778516 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable also, i think 10% is a good = deal for what they do. i did some research into other services and = bandcamp was the most well designed and the most responsive in terms of = customer support. it was free for a long time and i was actually = relieved when they started charging because that makes me hopeful they = won't disappear!

On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Zoe = Keating wrote:

I'm a big bandcamp fan. = I've been using their service to sell my music since = June.

On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:58 AM, daniel = wrote:

I've been using BandCamp for a while, now. I like it. Many = of my friends use it. Seems pretty legit to me.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: = Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
= Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: bandcamp = rules
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com


I didn't see anything evil in there. I = mean, if you're talking about
the recent restrictions in free = givaways? We still have the option to
give free download codes to = media people for promotion, this useful
feature has not changed. I = think it is good that Bandcamp is not
becoming a free music hub = because if that should be allowed Nathan and
the crew wouldn't be = able to keep the service up. Server space and
donuts still cost = money ;-)

Just "for safety's sake": if you may provide a link = to the specific
text you're talking about it may help this = discussion.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael = Peters <mp@mpeters.de> = wrote:
> Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from = lawyer speak into
> something that simple minds like me can = understand?  is there anything I
> should be worried about? = -Michael
>
>

=



= --Apple-Mail-131-849778516-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 22:35:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 251A53BE8C; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Xg90tGzNdfa8urwCtx4X4XTJeS2lxCHOS1KkMm4s47c=; b=fQhF9BWPL0MI185Cjs29DzRkYlgrXKeDq6T4jY56Psqa7aCGE+A9LelV+XEXRCDV6f S5ioU4dpvI/cy8mzMcPfJJ3lQgbjpNYk+A7Gcv89hv7NkzIzFUhNNf8wdbULn3XEpqET 3qzxaiEhrAO+Yt++/e4tY/uMb/VtSdvWu8yJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rp8WgWgS7TRRGZtEW7xNYqNYgcGc8eDl/tAL1Nk8DMXrbZi0KJoPGH29xFNqs4iKfo z3ifHhxcVN7qox7SN1TiCrUmdKgnMpjlVLsc9wu0mEsKVs0VFTZLi17Q3IwenLridhub SKGagk54anp+o5604DnLmbd0LwzQ75UmHxzBo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <85088332F46B4BB7836AF1087B4F8CBF@mpeserver> <0D654C9C-C869-4BBF-BEA5-FE722082AAEE@zoekeating.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:35:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bandcamp rules From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Oh, I forgot that Bandcamp recently decided to keep 15 percent instead of nothing. You may mean that change? I think that is ok as well. Bandcamp still is the only music web shop service that lets you use specific images for each song within a digital album. It amazes me that not more offer this because it is a great option for artist's expression as well as an interesting extra bonus for users. As I remembered the legal text (don't have time to log in and re-read it now) it was just the usual stuff that makes it legal for Bandcamp to host your recordings and use pictures as you as a trademark. The same stuff that has to be agreed on in traditional artists contracts to make it legal for a record label to handle the recordings in public. Nothing there to be afraid of - on the contrary, without having signed such a deal you should be afraid because then most countries law would define the Bandcamp service as illegal ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > also, i think 10% is a good deal for what they do. i did some research in= to > other services and bandcamp was the most well designed and the most > responsive in terms of customer support. it was free for a long time and = i > was actually relieved when they started charging because that makes me > hopeful they won't disappear! > On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > > I'm a big bandcamp fan. I've been using their service to sell my music si= nce > June. > On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:58 AM, daniel wrote: > > I've been using BandCamp for a while, now. I like it. Many of my friends = use > it. Seems pretty legit to me. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Per Boysen > Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:22 AM > Subject: Re: bandcamp rules > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > I didn't see anything evil in there. I mean, if you're talking about > the recent restrictions in free givaways? We still have the option to > give free download codes to media people for promotion, this useful > feature has not changed. I think it is good that Bandcamp is not > becoming a free music hub because if that should be allowed Nathan and > the crew wouldn't be able to keep the service up. Server space and > donuts still cost money ;-) > > Just "for safety's sake": if you may provide a link to the specific > text you're talking about it may help this discussion. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael Peters wrote: >> Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from lawyer speak int= o >> something that simple minds like me can understand? =C2=A0is there anyth= ing I >> should be worried about? -Michael >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 22:37:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D31C3BE8C; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 887247.70186.bm@omp1032.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=LucDoyTn0y8xZOVcbiFOwV/cltZkILjFczD6IQhMLTHgQ9oAu8F7SV6lYK+4TP6pqSYpDR8TI03jZCErK/xldsAo4E+0TX8E4E2twR7FyVHbU/eL9VPQziA0AT8UMLzewoCye/cIor1mCEeMsYzVVo4OlLl+TrrEbKpYE5K59rA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1290551873; bh=TdR9UkUkCiylByJcLWLd3LVK4CoqbthzDDMaeF/QDb4=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=tRf2eI+htxwRkdvkwlpr+NizpqZUPfqD60TweVqx7S4TJ8HyPQS9ojTQOWgOZfL86w58xNQCvxCyhJ+TzWO4Ld1bkla7xUQcCh2/asRG6lFhPjxAx7Ri3nvhg/CNYxzzj90Zz0Y1binq/dgLMM3Sx5xY7P9ABgWMXD0S0D2mQMk= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: QGS_XwUVM1nWcW1UjzNEVmwqFQAjbsThEhBA3JmrKLqhMjl Ta.DOSxCTGSt__NL_dswj9uF.KxMAPV34ss8dRlirw85olb5MfiWPHMsbNRG pJlxQBSANj7QGjoi27JSSVtoyRjajxUYUSx578kf4FXZ_1NCvmR9yk.FUOoJ hW_OGVnV7PW1XmSFtV.wl_Z3AlxMqcwl8cnqijR0Hxju2HWi0Jh4qXW8FLc. KyvJhDy55hRkCNAFwgWWiRwFa2rUE.gjxBcgkZ6v47W3LHEHgv0qPyXSHp_p RaqIYdD1qg_SBOgGl5A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <85088332F46B4BB7836AF1087B4F8CBF@mpeserver> <0D654C9C-C869-4BBF-BEA5-FE722082AAEE@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-31-859538083 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: bandcamp rules Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:37:46 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:37:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-31-859538083 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed If you sell over $5K its only 10% Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 23 Nov 2010, at 22:35, Per Boysen wrote: > Oh, I forgot that Bandcamp recently decided to keep 15 percent instead > of nothing. You may mean that change? I think that is ok as well. > Bandcamp still is the only music web shop service that lets you use > specific images for each song within a digital album. It amazes me > that not more offer this because it is a great option for artist's > expression as well as an interesting extra bonus for users. > > As I remembered the legal text (don't have time to log in and re-read > it now) it was just the usual stuff that makes it legal for Bandcamp > to host your recordings and use pictures as you as a trademark. The > same stuff that has to be agreed on in traditional artists contracts > to make it legal for a record label to handle the recordings in > public. Nothing there to be afraid of - on the contrary, without > having signed such a deal you should be afraid because then most > countries law would define the Bandcamp service as illegal ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Zoe Keating > wrote: >> also, i think 10% is a good deal for what they do. i did some >> research into >> other services and bandcamp was the most well designed and the most >> responsive in terms of customer support. it was free for a long >> time and i >> was actually relieved when they started charging because that >> makes me >> hopeful they won't disappear! >> On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: >> >> I'm a big bandcamp fan. I've been using their service to sell my >> music since >> June. >> On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:58 AM, daniel wrote: >> >> I've been using BandCamp for a while, now. I like it. Many of my >> friends use >> it. Seems pretty legit to me. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Per Boysen >> Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:22 AM >> Subject: Re: bandcamp rules >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> >> I didn't see anything evil in there. I mean, if you're talking about >> the recent restrictions in free givaways? We still have the option to >> give free download codes to media people for promotion, this useful >> feature has not changed. I think it is good that Bandcamp is not >> becoming a free music hub because if that should be allowed Nathan >> and >> the crew wouldn't be able to keep the service up. Server space and >> donuts still cost money ;-) >> >> Just "for safety's sake": if you may provide a link to the specific >> text you're talking about it may help this discussion. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael Peters >> wrote: >>> Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from lawyer >>> speak into >>> something that simple minds like me can understand? is there >>> anything I >>> should be worried about? -Michael >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > --Apple-Mail-31-859538083 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII If you sell over $5K its only 10%

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 23 Nov 2010, = at 22:35, Per Boysen wrote:

Oh, I forgot that Bandcamp recently decided to keep = 15 percent instead
of nothing. You may mean = that change? I think that is ok as well.
Bandcamp = still is the only music web shop service that lets you use
specific images for each song within a digital = album. It amazes me
that not more offer this = because it is a great option for artist's

As I = remembered the legal text (don't have time to log in and = re-read
it now) it was just the usual = stuff that makes it legal for Bandcamp
to host = your recordings and use pictures as you as a trademark. The
same stuff that has to be agreed on in traditional = artists contracts
to make it legal for a record = label to handle the recordings in
public. = Nothing there to be afraid of - on the contrary, without
having signed such a deal you should be afraid = because then most
countries law would define the = Bandcamp service as illegal ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per = Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> = wrote:
also, i think = 10% is a good deal for what they do. i did some research into
other services and bandcamp was the most well = designed and the most
responsive in terms of = customer support. it was free for a long time and i
was actually relieved when they started charging = because that makes me
hopeful they won't = disappear!
On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:35 AM, = Zoe Keating wrote:
I'm a big bandcamp fan. I've = been using their service to sell my music since
June.
On Nov 23, = 2010, at 8:58 AM, daniel wrote:

I've been using BandCamp for a = while, now. I like it. Many of my friends use
it. Seems pretty legit to me.

From: = Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: bandcamp rules


I didn't = see anything evil in there. I mean, if you're talking about
the recent restrictions in free givaways? We still = have the option to
give free download codes to = media people for promotion, this useful
feature = has not changed. I think it is good that Bandcamp is not
becoming a free music hub because if that should be = allowed Nathan and
the crew wouldn't be able = to keep the service up. Server space and
donuts = still cost money ;-)
Just "for safety's sake": if you = may provide a link to the specific
text you're = talking about it may help this discussion.

Greetings = from Sweden

Per Boysen



On Tue, = Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
=
Can anyone translate the = new Bandcamp terms of use from lawyer speak into
something that simple minds like me can understand? =  is there anything I
should be = worried about? -Michael


=





=

=

= --Apple-Mail-31-859538083-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 23 22:54:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 412723BE8A; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vyPE/CBBFXS/mtnXjALwS/uX9pFt2HoPiQvDrZr9II8=; b=H7QAWTyy8f0M20k92hv5NID2M9xVgIHLt7TnqAIMllPGa7WqAGW7UnYCiDpvHPrzIt IAb7z7mU/6s8AYlvzhgGJXxX40cxzUXwo3Ls/YNsjl2HJ/kJaaGb7CiXy0bSuGjn0SVx WDlWuMXM5+OC7YN3PH1lp4zZG7LxN72FGhdbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dHiYVaGBuyc682ayp45cc9eyFSx7oPnS2zLsm7mjqWs71TGMa/VWKvRl2H3l/r4XP2 EK52fG4HBQxJAxTAsQj+HX+sXDhcCmQotHBh4CIrlOmm14pznWt4NhEFjMTRbsHtTr7x QSCFwjKQgGB8tnIv8mXi/CNg3TwELUbOr4fTM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <85088332F46B4BB7836AF1087B4F8CBF@mpeserver> <0D654C9C-C869-4BBF-BEA5-FE722082AAEE@zoekeating.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:54:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bandcamp rules From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ace5b7c9e60495c03f91 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:54:06 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ace5b7c9e60495c03f91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been using them for close to two years and find it a great resource fo= r several projects. For most part I've sold very little but given away a fai= r amount. I go in stages from setting a price to pay what you want, probably best to stick one or other. I changed to set price on most projects to be consistent in support of one CD which was a diabetes benefit record. I think with all they have given musicians for the last couple of years tha= t whatever they want to keep is within reason really. For those making more money from them I can see it's probably hard to be so open on this. Jim http://jimgoodin.bandcamp.com http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com http://stevemoyes.bandcamp.com/album/growing-towards-the-sun On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > If you sell over $5K its only 10% > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 23 Nov 2010, at 22:35, Per Boysen wrote: > > Oh, I forgot that Bandcamp recently decided to keep 15 percent instead > of nothing. You may mean that change? I think that is ok as well. > Bandcamp still is the only music web shop service that lets you use > specific images for each song within a digital album. It amazes me > that not more offer this because it is a great option for artist's > expression as well as an interesting extra bonus for users. > > As I remembered the legal text (don't have time to log in and re-read > it now) it was just the usual stuff that makes it legal for Bandcamp > to host your recordings and use pictures as you as a trademark. The > same stuff that has to be agreed on in traditional artists contracts > to make it legal for a record label to handle the recordings in > public. Nothing there to be afraid of - on the contrary, without > having signed such a deal you should be afraid because then most > countries law would define the Bandcamp service as illegal ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > > also, i think 10% is a good deal for what they do. i did some research in= to > other services and bandcamp was the most well designed and the most > responsive in terms of customer support. it was free for a long time and = i > was actually relieved when they started charging because that makes me > hopeful they won't disappear! > On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > > I'm a big bandcamp fan. I've been using their service to sell my music > since > June. > On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:58 AM, daniel wrote: > > I've been using BandCamp for a while, now. I like it. Many of my friends > use > it. Seems pretty legit to me. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Per Boysen > Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:22 AM > Subject: Re: bandcamp rules > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > I didn't see anything evil in there. I mean, if you're talking about > the recent restrictions in free givaways? We still have the option to > give free download codes to media people for promotion, this useful > feature has not changed. I think it is good that Bandcamp is not > becoming a free music hub because if that should be allowed Nathan and > the crew wouldn't be able to keep the service up. Server space and > donuts still cost money ;-) > > Just "for safety's sake": if you may provide a link to the specific > text you're talking about it may help this discussion. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > > Can anyone translate the new Bandcamp terms of use from lawyer speak into > something that simple minds like me can understand? is there anything I > should be worried about? -Michael > > > > > > > > > > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054ace5b7c9e60495c03f91 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been using them for close to two years and find it a great resourc= e for several projects.=A0 For most part I've sold very little but give= n away a fair amount.=A0 I go in stages from setting a price to pay what yo= u want, probably best to stick one or other.=A0 I changed to set price on m= ost projects to be consistent in support of one CD which was a diabetes ben= efit record.

I think with all they have given musicians for the last couple of years= that whatever they want to keep is within reason really.=A0 For those maki= ng more money from them I can see it's probably hard to be so open on t= his.

Jim
http://jimgoodin.bandc= amp.com
http://j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com
http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com
ht= tp://stevemoyes.bandcamp.com/album/growing-towards-the-sun


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Matt Stevens <matt= stevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
If you sell over $5K its only 10%


On 23 Nov 2010, at 22:35, Per Boysen wrote:
Oh, I forgot that Ba= ndcamp recently decided to keep 15 percent instead
of nothing. You may mean that change? I think t= hat is ok as well.
Bandcamp still is the o= nly music web shop service that lets you use
specific images for each song within a digital album. It amazes me
that not more offer this because it is a great opt= ion for artist's
expression as well as= an interesting extra bonus for users.

As I remembered the legal text (don't have time to log in and = re-read
it now) it was just the usual stuf= f that makes it legal for Bandcamp
to host your recordings and use pictures as you= as a trademark. The
same stuff that has t= o be agreed on in traditional artists contracts
to make it legal for a record label to handle the recordings in
public. Nothing there to be afraid of - on the contra= ry, without
having signed such a deal you = should be afraid because then most
countries law would define the Bandcamp service= as illegal ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> w= rote:
also, i think 10% is= a good deal for what they do. i did some research into
other services and bandcamp was the most well designed and th= e most
responsive in terms of customer support. it was= free for a long time and i
was actually r= elieved when they started charging because that makes me
hopeful they won't disappear!
On Nov 2= 3, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Zoe Keating wrote:

I'm a big bandca= mp fan. I've been using their service to sell my music since
June.
On Nov 2= 3, 2010, at 8:58 AM, daniel wrote:

I've been using BandCa= mp for a while, now. I like it. Many of my friends use
it. Seems pretty legit to me.

-= --------- Forwarded message ----------
Fro= m: Per Boysen <= perboysen@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: bandcamp rules


I didn'= ;t see anything evil in there. I mean, if you're talking about
the recent restrictions in free givaways? We still have the option to
=
give free download codes to media people for pr= omotion, this useful
feature has not chang= ed. I think it is good that Bandcamp is not
becoming a free music hub because if that shoul= d be allowed Nathan and
the crew wouldn= 9;t be able to keep the service up. Server space and
donuts still cost money ;-)

Just "for safety's sake&= quot;: if you may provide a link to the specific
text you're talking about it may help this discussion.

G= reetings from Sweden
Per Boysen


=

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
Can anyone translate the new Band= camp terms of use from lawyer speak into
something that simple minds like me can underst= and? =A0is there anything I
should be worr= ied about? -Michael

=








<= /div>


--
From Brooklyn To = Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn= .=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn= .bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wo= rdpress.com
--20cf3054ace5b7c9e60495c03f91-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 00:29:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51E993BE8C; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1801 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:29:30 UTC Message-ID: <4CEC555A.6050006@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:59:22 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , MARGARET NOBLE Subject: Experimental Looping Sound Sources: a List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8dd4M.A.rRG.rxF7MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Bill Putnam of UA just sent this to me and I found it fascinating. The wonderful invented musical world of Tim Kaiser http://vimeo.com/3099287 It made me think of how live looping has urged me, personally, to keep finding new and unusual sound sources that sound great when repeated and mangled. For me this has been finding sounds (that frequently are not considered to be musical instruments that , nonetheless, have really intriguing musical possibilities), inventing new and alternate techniques for existing instruments (like all the guitarists on this list who use their electric and acoustic guitars as drum machines) and even inventing new instruments. I thought it would be an intriguing thread to talk about these three sources for live looping and the augmentation of traditional looped instruments with alternate sound sources. What are some cool: 1) Found Sounds 2) Invented Sounds 3) Alternate Techniques to change the sound of Existing Instruments PS I'm cc-ing this thread to Margaret Noble who's website SOUND IS ART http://vimeo.com/3099287 is a home to similar kinds of musical expression with the encouragement that we CC all the responses to this thread to her as well for the sake of her site From jdipper@thedippers.com Wed Nov 24 01:24:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 8039 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:24:17 UTC Received: from mail.kpmtech.com (adsl-99-119-143-130.dsl.spf2mo.sbcglobal.net [99.119.143.130]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8193BE79 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([207.58.145.145]) by mail.kpmtech.com (IceWarp 9.4.2) with ASMTP id FHS28152 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:47:52 -0600 From:"Verizon Wireless" To: Subject: Alert! Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20101124012417.DB8193BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:24:17 +0000 (UTC)

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 02:49:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3CA93BE93; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y5oZTzx5rENZhjnV/k/kaYf5uih1eJ5oDUBrA2uvZGM=; b=ChuWYuvfiLFBVxqgdgRBE7qxDt8uyjOmB7g7qjdrEHkoJrZthuiS8uIQn6yXCMFxN4 unVGqdMtUfG7yCjpvMjbkN8Y55gJihgBoxESf5XVtKhXgrANinfK795IZSn0oclSAvbS 3gi5czkV0RJfgwPnQRHoVDj+tGvQxk2NkhMyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=R0o29mMmvjHPJMCa4wpH/hGJIn31EL2yuB5exGxWy0Axbc5Gll0aZdUdMc2S0L4YhM SaTQ/8BG+hLGv9M++nTD619XtCqa4uX75pHcsHTTaUeERF3ySJpOACcljPrTYobR6z3I +XIi3xGDj4zWIpuVAjZZIm3sS65XIfswBFPMM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CEC555A.6050006@cruzio.com> References: <4CEC555A.6050006@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:49:15 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Experimental Looping Sound Sources: a List From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485eba1e8ead9440495c38864 Resent-Message-ID: <5zCQgB.A._RB.s0H7MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:49:16 +0000 (UTC) --001485eba1e8ead9440495c38864 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Really dug that Rick, inspired! j On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Bill Putnam of UA just sent this to me and I found it fascinating. > > The wonderful invented musical world of Tim Kaiser > http://vimeo.com/3099287 > > It made me think of how live looping has urged me, personally, to keep > finding new and unusual sound sources that sound great when repeated > and mangled. > > For me this has been finding sounds (that frequently are not considered to > be musical instruments that , nonetheless, have really intriguing musical > possibilities), > inventing new and alternate techniques for existing instruments (like all > the guitarists on this list who use their electric and acoustic guitars as > drum machines) > and even inventing new instruments. > > I thought it would be an intriguing thread to talk about these three > sources for > live looping and the augmentation of traditional looped instruments with > alternate > sound sources. > > What are some cool: > > 1) Found Sounds > > 2) Invented Sounds > > 3) Alternate Techniques to change the sound of Existing Instruments > > PS I'm cc-ing this thread to Margaret Noble > who's website SOUND IS ART http://vimeo.com/3099287 > is a home to similar kinds of musical expression with the encouragement > that > we CC all the responses to this thread to her as well for the sake of her > site > --001485eba1e8ead9440495c38864 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really dug that Rick, inspired!

j

= On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Bill Putnam of UA just sent this to me and I found it fascinating.

The wonderful invented musical world of Tim Kaiser
http://vimeo.com/309= 9287

It made me think of how live looping has urged me, personally, to keep
finding new and unusual sound sources that sound great when repeated
and mangled.

For me this has been finding sounds (that frequently are not considered to<= br> be musical instruments that , nonetheless, have really intriguing musical p= ossibilities),
inventing new and alternate techniques for existing instruments (like all the guitarists on this list who use their electric and acoustic guitars as = drum machines)
and even inventing new instruments.

I thought it would be an intriguing thread to talk about these three source= s for
live looping and the augmentation of traditional looped instruments with al= ternate
sound sources.

What are some cool:

1) =A0Found Sounds

2) =A0Invented Sounds

3) =A0Alternate Techniques to change the sound of Existing Instruments

PS =A0 I'm cc-ing this thread to Margaret Noble
who's website SOUND IS ART =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://vimeo.com/3099287
is a home to similar kinds of musical expression with the encouragement tha= t
we CC all the responses to this thread to her as well for the sake of her s= ite

--001485eba1e8ead9440495c38864-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 04:34:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AD493BE91; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nF2QDZ3jQhlPdDOyEJmQx179YOrykJ7j+oqssfcQCDU=; b=OFi/KljHzG+WgOLJL2SXbkvYQ2EEZBrwuoei6Gv+eTnhQmPfnn8ynE/jQ8+G4GDItk xfc4MD3dj4D0dpwAPfUSTzu4ZZNGZcgrLR+BtgDOBSsDuNdVA34qCqqcMlEQHfHjkdIf fxxzykoCGJ2MU0rzfIY4y+hpffI3WpVpXzosQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OU9Xbh3KhHCG2KZRjm4eXdqGvk+zZfnToNEY/sNb+CHqj55qgCvMlAhPjCcPVcYl79 2JkAzmb937npC7LEK7Omwio5L/NtlSO/gU5TRH3LsU5o0hmCDNofjT6JAfsuEctE1XTI uH4dTQMSu4DgZ4892aQ83TyR0ZiDBHQCrHN7A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:34:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: ot: need computer nerd help - dsp question From: james fowler To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56b20d9dea00495c500ad Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:34:23 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd56b20d9dea00495c500ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 scenario: bidule running on win xp, 4 gb ram, fast processor, etc. the dsp monitor inside of bidule reads 30-50% at any given time (depending on number of instruments currently at work) but in task manager cpu usage hovers around 10-11%. is there a way to boost dsp allocation or whatever (dunno if that's even a real thing) so that bidule has a little more headroom? i find that under certain circumstances the dsp meter peaks at over 100% and results in all kinds of crap glitching and/or freezing. given my computer's specs, it would appear to not be a hardware problem but i don't know for certain. any and all help is greatly appreciated. - jim --000e0cd56b20d9dea00495c500ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable scenario:

bidule running on win xp, 4 gb ram, fast processor, etc. <= br>
the dsp monitor inside of bidule reads 30-50% at any given time (dep= ending on number of instruments currently at work) but in task manager cpu = usage hovers around 10-11%.=A0 is there a way to boost dsp allocation or wh= atever (dunno if that's even a real thing) so that bidule has a little = more headroom?=A0 i find that under certain circumstances the dsp meter pea= ks at over 100% and results in all kinds of crap glitching and/or freezing.= =A0 given my computer's specs, it would appear to not be a hardware pro= blem but i don't know for certain.

any and all help is greatly appreciated.

- jim
--000e0cd56b20d9dea00495c500ad-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 06:45:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D19F3BE94; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pTcGfD3mKPLdPWvo2TJnrJOfjS83BdWaExiYzwHOB7s=; b=Ydnps9LSmBZSti+Hxf+oB2I8aSfspew8/qJ8lQ+rHQYuZRjnbOLQgMbuKSKbkOCMkm so25OWy8bvbyeR6QueAY4N47+YV8WIcz35gAeKVJlDyc0aoMgCugnzJC/7/p0jzpW/Ao COPGrjbC1sHgA7GgiF1bTr5wi/Ywi0tO3utpE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mWaQbJbL0J5WCvsQzmB8aY6c7bntH+vImyRJyDd0sT4EsXQ/w1pqUEgdKFEPOx2/oy XA/yoWa9p1EopQf35vHNb6WQGKRTf8Ckpkn7LbV482afxGAgsH0dWgIdZn7ksNJAbKwZ 7lnHELrM1h+0t+Jupf3KTVZFjmCvFLBzMfJwg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:45:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot: need computer nerd help - dsp question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:45:26 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:34 AM, james fowler wrote: > is there a way to boost dsp allocation or whatever (dunno if that's even a > real thing) so that bidule has a little more headroom? Yes. That is a standard procedure, but I don't remember the details as it's been a while since it's been a while since I've been setting up XP for audio. But these two web sites may help: http://www.digitalproducer.com/2002/11_nov/features/11_04/optimize_pcaudio.htm http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar02/articles/pcmusician0302.asp Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 09:49:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09BA13BE8F; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 537831242/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.181.194/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.181.194 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwCAONt7ExV0rXC/2dsb2JhbAAHlGbLbYVHBI1jgn0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,247,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="537831242" Message-ID: <4CECDFBA.9020907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:49:46 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Experimental Looping Sound Sources: a List References: <4CEC555A.6050006@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:49:33 +0000 (UTC) particularly interesting how he runs to the looping device to use it's pitch shifting abilities andy Jeff Duke wrote: > Really dug that Rick, inspired! > > j > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Rick Walker > wrote: > > Bill Putnam of UA just sent this to me and I found it fascinating. > > The wonderful invented musical world of Tim Kaiser > http://vimeo.com/3099287 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 10:01:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A3373BE8C; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <2E754780-B931-4D60-A091-F31DFDB1D425@grubmah.com> Subject: RE: review of BOSS SL-20 Slicer and description of my Noise Rig Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:01:39 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <2E754780-B931-4D60-A091-F31DFDB1D425@grubmah.com> Thread-Index: AcuK6pmmEF+xMOM4QG6kd3KnQG2bogA07v3w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.4.112; VDF: 7.10.14.82) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:01:46 +0000 (UTC) > Months later: Do you still love it? > I've been pondering a pair of DD-20s (per Douglas Baldwin's > suggestions) feeding into an SL-20 as more or less an ambient > pad into rhythmic pulse thing that's basically what I use it for occasionally - feeding an ambient DL4 loop into it. Sounds great depending on the source material. The big downside of this thing is that the patterns aren't editable. Where's the Walker Glitch Pedal that you promised, Rick?? :) -Michael veloopity.bandcamp.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 10:29:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 431423BE95; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CECE913.4070600@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:29:39 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Experimental Looping Sound Sources: a List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1YL73D.A.uIE.akO7MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:29:47 +0000 (UTC) My bad, I posted the wrong URL for Margaret Noble's Sound Is Art site. It should have read: http://margaretnoble.net/blog/ Please go there and check it out. Better yet, please go there and contribute some art to the site. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 13:29:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D43BA3BE8F; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 535206977/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.181.194/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.181.194 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwCAG2i7ExV0rXC/2dsb2JhbAAHlGnNCIVHBI1j X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,247,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="535206977" Message-ID: <4CED1330.8030907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:29:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: review of BOSS SL-20 Slicer and description of my Noise Rig References: <2E754780-B931-4D60-A091-F31DFDB1D425@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters wrote: >> Months later: Do you still love it? >> I've been pondering a pair of DD-20s (per Douglas Baldwin's >> suggestions) feeding into an SL-20 as more or less an ambient >> pad into rhythmic pulse thing > > > that's basically what I use it for occasionally - feeding an ambient DL4 > loop into it. Sounds great depending on the source material. The big > downside of this thing is that the patterns aren't editable. Check out the Moogerfooger Midi Murf filterbank. (links to a pc to edit patterns) ...........yep, I know it's not cheap :-( >Where's the > Walker Glitch Pedal that you promised, Rick?? :) that was an enticing possibility andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 21:47:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25ED43BE93; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rVPryHhHrwzANX+FPFwsdEA0jsTEjr0Pi3UYNHqCX3k=; b=nUZdoTI9sqrHKseW0Afdg42T751MK2fX579SLjYcJ4K9xUbd9bICYCiSyFPyi07hY4 PH1qyxON0F6+ZwDxfVdF2+PC7GYrr2+eSlvm7wdtQ5KPaLrYe6ntBa/o5zTntLaKIaYk YLj26FjkYT4rbqxSrr01PS0H1xLa5HcK0e2kc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kJhKSX1yrrcQAZW9S4hhjHOjNSmuyg4ci7zKTQqAQ+J3Cu6tck+guakwXwRxpsMKMb tTR/+jENAb6MsSEN9XZ/wduhvcpe0hVA6D9+0JLyfvcVaRC3vadUsfiezuOwPOXUGQYJ OheyOtZR6xB6gQtsB7LXu/2YvQ1HwijD8BIxg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:47:21 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Getting rid of my dual-EDP+ rig From: "Nobody's Pants" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f5851a6a250495d36f6b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:47:22 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f5851a6a250495d36f6b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey guys...kind of a newbie lurker here, but I figure this is the crowd to ask, as the subject couldn't be more relevant to your interests... I took down an ebay auction I had up earlier because I'd had a few offers to buy outright...(one from Australia, one from Chicago). The guy from Chicago was supposedly gonna pick up my rig here in SoCal, but canceled on me when he saw how far the drive was from LAX Airport. (a couple hours). He was interested in me shipping it, which I may end up doing, but I thought I'd see if you guys were interested first. Here's the setup: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/cVC_F9O3U3xTSJYB2zx53A?feat=directlink http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/xPKU9R37huIHpQLcgYM-RQ?feat=directlink One is an Oberheim I received in trade, and invested the money into upgrading to LOOP IV. Maxed out memory. The second is a parts unit I got off ebay, which had been stripped of memory, and sold "as-is". With the help of Andy Ewen from Aurisis, and a fellow named Shane from British Audio (both of whom worked for Gibson building these at one point), I was able to bring it back to life, and it's happily humming away in perfect sync with its older "brother". So yeah, both have 16MB of memory, and both are running LOOP IV, so essentially both are up to full EDP+ specs. I'm also running an an 8ch mixer, a Digitech DSP 128+, and a Behringer FCB1010 (everything pictured). Not a bad rig for a looping beginner, eh? Well, alas, it's a bit TOO much for me (i.e. I've been too lazy to dive in and get really good with these things...truly instruments unto themselves), and it's just a shame to have it sitting around, especially when I don't play much lately, and I'm trying to start a business (so I could use some more liquid assets). I'm interested in taking offers from this group before I just toss it back up on ebay, and I'll see if someone here wants first crack at it. If you're interested, either reply to this thread or just hir me up directly. Either way, make an offer, let me know where I'd be shipping it to (and whether or not your offer includes shipping costs), and I'll let you know! If there isn't sufficient interest, I'll toss 'em back up on the 'bay, and you can fight with the unwashed masses for them :-p I could post a video of them in action, but I'm truly an amateur and would be embarrassed to play in front of such an accomplished group (gaggle?) of loopers/ Thanks! JeffH --00163630f5851a6a250495d36f6b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys...kind of a newbie lurker here, but I figure this is the crowd to = ask, as the subject couldn't be more relevant to your interests...
<= br>I took down an ebay auction I had up earlier because I'd had a few o= ffers to buy outright...(one from Australia, one from Chicago).=A0 The guy = from Chicago was supposedly gonna pick up my rig here in SoCal, but cancele= d on me when he saw how far the drive was from LAX Airport. (a couple hours= ).=A0 He was interested in me shipping it, which I may end up doing, but I = thought I'd see if you guys were interested first.=A0=A0 Here's the= setup:

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/c= VC_F9O3U3xTSJYB2zx53A?feat=3Ddirectlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/xPKU9R37huIHpQLcgYM-RQ?feat=3Ddir= ectlink

One is an Oberheim I received in trade, and invested the money into upg= rading to LOOP IV.=A0 Maxed out memory.=A0 The second is a parts unit I got= off ebay, which had been stripped of memory, and sold "as-is".= =A0 With the help of Andy Ewen from Aurisis, and a fellow named Shane from = British Audio (both of whom worked for Gibson building these at one point),= I was able to bring it back to life, and it's happily humming away in = perfect sync with its older "brother".

So yeah, both have 16MB of memory, and both are running LOOP IV, so ess= entially both are up to full EDP+ specs.=A0 I'm also running an an 8ch = mixer, a Digitech DSP 128+, and a Behringer FCB1010 (everything pictured).= =A0 Not a bad rig for a looping beginner, eh?=A0=A0

Well, alas, it's a bit TOO much for me (i.e. I've been too lazy= to dive in and get really good with these things...truly instruments unto = themselves), and it's just a shame to have it sitting around, especiall= y when I don't play much lately, and I'm trying to start a business= (so I could use some more liquid assets).=A0

I'm interested in taking offers from this group before I just toss = it back up on ebay, and I'll see if someone here wants first crack at i= t.=A0 If you're interested, either reply to this thread or just hir me = up directly.=A0 Either way, make an offer, let me know where I'd be shi= pping it to (and whether or not your offer includes shipping costs), and I&= #39;ll let you know!=A0 If there isn't sufficient interest, I'll to= ss 'em back up on the 'bay, and you can fight with the unwashed mas= ses for them :-p

I could post a video of them in action, but I'm truly an amateur an= d would be embarrassed to play in front of such an accomplished group (gagg= le?) of loopers/

Thanks!
JeffH
--00163630f5851a6a250495d36f6b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 21:58:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 242893BE91; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=buW3J6y23IGI/jvhmLQFqg39TBlcN5irO2voAtI0c78=; b=PfdSM6uAxBhnbdQc9eaZMroo/mQEcuLp5NcRd1/FCyrQ7HLXlr9JLhGdeyzJSgFRp8 ZFdreyfMnt/CtlkRUTqxhc3IqAFO2CF0aM1Jalos7494gekp7XcA6hi3SWzVR8ZdeFBh 5R7TruyTtm2D7c1FxYy8+H48EtpweqiRK/LEg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=m1iWHUezCVgH80B9KxhBAnJHP9yuFL+IoY7KWpHSOeuzF/lUPXrKQJmRCHJHZH2KyB 2pnhc/cHfPIsoYU/qxtun5Y8TvUoeiK92uimbSQCPIIWsfUDuJAIFkWZIJmkJDYNHNw+ M9D7oqaDVWyQj4r9Y7BzEHEkzEXQMLz9IMOLQ= Message-ID: <4CED8A9C.2070107@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:58:52 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ot: need computer nerd help - dsp question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:58:53 +0000 (UTC) james fowler schrieb: > the dsp monitor inside of bidule reads 30-50% at any given time > (depending on number of instruments currently at work) but in task > manager cpu usage hovers around 10-11%. is there a way to boost dsp > allocation or whatever (dunno if that's even a real thing) so that > bidule has a little more headroom? i find that under certain > circumstances One thing I found is that for some reason (which may very well make sense, because in a typical scenario it displays how far you're from interface driver dropouts), some audio programs seem to display the maximum load on a single core, not the averaged load over all cores, as Windows' task manager does. There is a strategy that you may try to check (on multicore or multiprocessor systems) on which core your audio interface driver is running and then (also using task manager in the "Process" window) keep your audio app (e.g. Bidule) from using that core. Careful with hyperthreading architectures (e.g. Nehalem) - you need to remove them from the entire physical core (which is two cores in the task manager display). Then again, Windows XP generally has problems with hyperthreading architectures (or so I heard)... Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 22:02:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4A853BE97; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NZBfTZl+4vl3DkStJzUX/i8SlN39jaqEJcot+1hiJEs=; b=BvVTDqGJhH/7k9CjBie+QxufGg4bVqyjQmljPlmYmbwysn5XcSsK2nk72vzzIbGgOJ rFBShtyoyJNfAInEBbsciZ9knEJ69UTHuZRLxqtYAZP4X22iQJDGQ1YrT2NsAz4taM95 ssUEmIW3PqDaCWGsI2oYMND7ke62YCXsev2kY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SsjwOB+2Ruwhqu6UWeVb0F3Y94mZY8/Z8K3oweCpJ/yOx/E6OJHndWnvDEeRR1Dv57 4l81VhDYP7nhC0VwyceZFITW5cmBqPyP2XJSodEU+d0Ix6z2kdBqN+HctpQkFRqdNw3k lOdbfDLu8N7tZJihH5XxypI+1FpIEEJUM7Cso= Message-ID: <4CED8B6F.9020509@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:02:23 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: review of BOSS SL-20 Slicer and description of my Noise Rig References: <2E754780-B931-4D60-A091-F31DFDB1D425@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters schrieb: > that's basically what I use it for occasionally - feeding an ambient DL4 > loop into it. Sounds great depending on the source material. The big > downside of this thing is that the patterns aren't editable. Where's the > Walker Glitch Pedal that you promised, Rick?? :) > I know I really tend to repeat myself with that solve-all suggestion - but the Nord MicroModular (with the right patch) makes for an excellent ersatz SL20 with editable patches. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 22:17:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F4403BE95; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mta7.brinkster.com From: "CM" To: References: <003d01cb86f6$ed70caa0$c8525fe0$@asyouthink.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: ...speaking of PC... Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:17:36 -0800 Message-ID: <007001cb8c25$66814ea0$3383ebe0$@asyouthink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01CB8BE2.58607FA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHXcJiONm+DA4ECOWiLwFqd/tM9ygJE1UuCk1c+lYA= Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:17:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CB8BE2.58607FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rafael, Thank you for your kind input - that is certainly helpful! I don't have a particularly "fixed" budget, but am thinking in the range of $1000-$2000. My primary current focus is live looping, though I expect I will probably revisit some of my more "crafted" / sculpted work too down the road. (i.e. "movie soundtrack" kinds of stuff, and also occasional... how shall I call it . aggressive dance music ). My live looping work historically was done w/the Repeater + Ableton (play only), and the "sculpted" work was previously done in Acid. I'm open to new ideas / tools on both of those counts as well though.. What is the general consensus these days re: going full software-based looping, as opposed to Repeater and/or Repeater + software based? Should I keep the Repeater, or sell it? Happy Thanksgiving to all.. C From: Rafael Nunes [mailto:supersimples@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:49 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ...speaking of PC... It all depends on how much you want to spend, and how clean you need it to sound. I'd say the lowest priced acceptable setup involves something like an M-Audio Fast Trak Pro, and a multicore Pentium machine. If you know how to build your own, go that route, save the money, if not there companies that focus on audio PCs. I'd focus on those, rather than trying to get a Vaio, Dell or HP laptop that will get the job done. I currently use 2 ADK pro Audio computers, one desktop and one laptop. Both are just over 2 years old, and I just upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit, they run like a dream, quiet, uber fast and reliable. adkproaudio.com They're great too because if you buy hardware through them, or any software, they can pre install everything, so when your PC shows up, you just plug things in and turn them on! Hope that heps at least get you thinking, if you post a budget, and project ideas, I'm sure folks would have fascinating software/hardware suggestions. Rafa On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:02 AM, CM wrote: No corporate gigs here, BUT... I'm dipping my toes back into the looping waters. Current studio looping setup is on an ANCIENT (P3!) Windows box with an almost-equally-ancient Ableton version, running in play-only mode and synced to an Electrix Repeater for live-looping. Looking to switch to a "modern" (i.e. this century) Windows laptop sometime soon (should I still keep the Repeater??); what's the applicable current/recommended hardware route to low-latency live laptop-based looping? (Feel free to point me to some FAQ if I missed this answered elsewhere -- seems like it w/b a frequent question, but I've not seen it in recent lurking). C -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CB8BE2.58607FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Rafael,

 

Thank you for your kind input – that is certainly = helpful!

 

I don't have a particularly “fixed” budget, but am = thinking in the range of $1000-$2000. My primary current focus is live = looping, though I expect I will probably revisit some of my more = “crafted” / sculpted work too down the road. (i.e. = “movie soundtrack” kinds of stuff, and also occasional... = how shall I call it … aggressive dance music  <g>). =

 

My live looping work historically was done w/the Repeater + Ableton = (play only), and the “sculpted” work was previously done in = Acid. I’m open to new ideas / tools on both of those counts as = well though..

What is the general consensus these days re: going full = software-based looping, as opposed to Repeater and/or Repeater + = software based? Should I keep the Repeater, or sell = it?

 

Happy Thanksgiving to all..

 

C           &nb= sp;

 

From:= = Rafael Nunes [mailto:supersimples@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, = November 19, 2010 8:49 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: ...speaking = of PC...

 

It all = depends on how much you want to spend, and how clean you need it to = sound. I'd say the lowest priced acceptable setup involves something = like an M-Audio Fast Trak Pro, and a multicore Pentium machine. If you = know how to build your own, go that route, save the money, if not there = companies that focus on audio PCs. I'd focus on those, rather than = trying to get a Vaio, Dell or HP laptop that will get the job done. I = currently use 2 ADK pro Audio computers, one desktop and one laptop. = Both are just over 2 years old, and I just upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit, = they run like a dream, quiet, uber fast and = reliable.

<= div>

They're great too because if you buy hardware = through them, or any software, they can pre install everything, so when = your PC shows up, you just plug things in and turn them = on!

Hope that heps at = least get you thinking, if you post a budget, and project ideas, I'm = sure folks would have fascinating software/hardware = suggestions.

 

Rafa

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:02 AM, CM <listmail@asyouthink.com> = wrote:

No corporate gigs here, BUT...

I'm = dipping my toes back into the looping waters. Current studio = looping
setup is on an ANCIENT (P3!) Windows box with an = almost-equally-ancient
Ableton version, running in play-only mode and = synced to an Electrix
Repeater for live-looping. Looking to switch to = a "modern" (i.e. this
century) Windows laptop sometime soon = (should I still keep the Repeater??);
what's the applicable = current/recommended hardware route to low-latency live
laptop-based = looping?

(Feel free to point me to some FAQ if I missed this = answered elsewhere --
seems like it w/b a frequent question, but I've = not seen it in recent
lurking).

C




--
Rafa's One Man Band = Online:
http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/332617= 53239

 

------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CB8BE2.58607FA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 22:55:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06E8D3BE93; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CED97CA.9090701@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:55:06 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Experimental Looping Sound Sources: a List References: <4CECDFBA.9020907@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4CECDFBA.9020907@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, Andy, I noticed that too. My only critique of all the wonderfully inventive creativity that I saw was that he kept using the same processing on every sound he made. I was thinking.......wow, what he could with an LP-1 or Mobius or Max/MSP or Ablteton's Live or whatever. andy butler wrote: > particularly interesting how he runs to the looping device > to use it's pitch shifting abilities From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 23:06:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56DC83BE8C; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CED9A66.2000407@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:06:14 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Peters , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: RE: review of BOSS SL-20 Slicer and description of my Noise Rig References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Well, Bill Putnam has made me a prototype of the unit but we still have not implemented data looping and midi sync and we still have not put it inside of a small box. Bill's unbelievably busy with a zillion inventions, raising his wonderful family and, of course, his company, Universal Audio, so it may be a long time (if ever) before it hits the commercial marketplace..........sorry! Michael Peters wrote: > The big downside of this thing is that the patterns aren't editable. Where's the > Walker Glitch Pedal that you promised, Rick??:) Also, syncing the Boss Slicer to a Looperlative LP-1 solution and then using operations like 'Q Replace' (INS = SUB in the EDP) with a Q value is equal to the 'sub pulse' of the Slices in the Boss can easily allow one to 'cut' perfect 8th or 16th note slices of silence into the generated pattern which makes the units' slices customizeable. The only trick is learning how to substitute silence by triggering the Q Replace function on the sub pulse interval that directly preceeds the silenced slice you want to create. I'll tell you, though, it really increases one's rhythmic acuity to learn how to do this. It means you not only need to know exactly where you want silence placed (not just the rhythm you want to create but the 'negative' spaces before and after the notes you want to sing, but also you have to think one 1/8th or 1/16th before the note you want removed. That's some timing acuity for you and it takes practise. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 23:08:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F8233BE8A; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GVAunxVBadelHQsLoWEdcLu3BnBEhm1zws2A8hlETbU=; b=a0ZqgdQIa/Z6GdYwnxiUM9Gx2r/1g6M7IGukOCYNFmOByooFolQem8u0NCMpMna2VQ iNeVmN2E79+PNfTpoFTvC/+KKEqZ1uEX0P0UnSFBKOyrf8GIYfv0M1FgrguVK2vcRCMY M0NDYGRKRrF4PrvEiBTgJu1Qh+nBGza4Py0B0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZFK1dtKf1MXSwa305t99kqHcfekCov5JOgMzZWyt1wX/49jgVA0h6svNfeHmcLyMzI TaDQrIah9PVVZKkW4uyjE3e6F3QV4Z7s01x/E7pOlDxL4fR+/CalG+whm8ei81B5gNtJ h0XRPr83Lp4FFJ4pdJAEaGrvDnw8z9Dy9VM5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:08:53 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Anyone else excited about Kinect? From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:08:58 +0000 (UTC) http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/11/kinect-with-midi-with-microsofts-3d-c= amera/ I'm thinking more visually at the moment but this seems to open so many doors to who knows what. And only $150, hard to go wrong. Anyone? Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 24 23:17:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 193793BE8D; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20101124160159.0z5pjwq9a88o844o@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:01:59 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Kevin Cheli-Colando Subject: Re: Anyone else excited about Kinect? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:17:53 +0000 (UTC) I did some of this with a Nintendo Power Glove, but this is more than =20 a hand! I found the trickiest part is coming up with useful/creative =20 ways to map available inputs to controllers.. with the simplest being =20 what's in this video, and just mapping position to note/etc.. I =20 suspect something more creative will involve discerning gestures.. :) -cpr Quoting Kevin Cheli-Colando : > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/11/kinect-with-midi-with-microsofts-3d-= camera/ > > I'm thinking more visually at the moment but this seems to open so > many doors to who knows what. And only $150, hard to go wrong. > > Anyone? > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 00:05:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF7113BE87; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <8400CE890E874AB4B17E5C8E523184CE@PHIL> From: "Stephen P Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: Anyone else excited about Kinect? Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:05:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:05:14 +0000 (UTC) We got one before our trip to the US. The Kinect is quite impressive in its learning of your positions, postures and even a face-recognition signin. We got the exercise program called 'in shape' I think and it was a really good workout! The menuing using your hands in midair is like something out of a sci-fi movie. Well done! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:08 PM Subject: Anyone else excited about Kinect? > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/11/kinect-with-midi-with-microsofts-3d-camera/ > > I'm thinking more visually at the moment but this seems to open so > many doors to who knows what. And only $150, hard to go wrong. > > Anyone? > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 04:15:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29E683BE8F; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 04:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:content-type:subject :date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=5BXwaSbIZzEAGLO+gtLZ5PLG1yS413dbmyJk79LZuEs=; b=m0jKYiAFO5FYIbFSmVCWSX3TK0mrtFTYupWcqG/XVEzFJroGnpFSgi9D8yndZEGiE9 +xjI1tFcVe60HbFE1WxrkbYh1KPamLWVIF7SFo4hlt2FmaK6TiiYRkKwfn8jMTV5TZtp xmfzpmDX1BiTvoRbXyE3i7vaPuInK9c0IZSUE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=ptsFzA566tr9lI98vKx1fjEyCopV/VYi7xPQSH8P8TbI0no/UWxOPJqpFayyJKmQha 1EJi4zV5Psp2XADDH4eufKXT56phD/h9Joha2SFRRD3yYf4n+Rd3WkJUX7zGtZqOLisp qhnV7wVmLpa1ePGJ8LwYr/Or7qh0Sf3ii/Zfk= From: Matthias Grob Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14-966177924 Subject: stereo mic Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:15:06 -0300 Message-Id: <68C67CE7-B84A-4C26-85FF-9EB5F7C5831F@gmail.com> To: Loop List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <4QKzwC.A.4tC.vLe7MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 04:15:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-14-966177924 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii did you ever see someone using a stereo mic like this? it only makes sense with looping, and a lot so, I think! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01s8GF_S420 --Apple-Mail-14-966177924 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii did you ever see someone using a stereo mic like this?
it only makes sense with looping, and a lot so, I think!

--Apple-Mail-14-966177924-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 05:21:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76F143BE8D; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 05:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w/JD1oPQqwZJaMxyULwlQRcLj6Ny3N1f15Cq8hLZ/NM=; b=Wle2jNut8Brz0jhaJiiefWePDyUya2IMrDB/c0Rf43GAdWPOCkrGBIyBE64KYlGX5L b79GpFaU1LB+NtjyktIKanbyoX7hBfE+TjiKuH6nC2ianDDQB5KPU08iCGQRT1f0FYLQ UPK9D5cPJIVQs+GwiiyoJIwTCpzMt5MF4Yhqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KTfIr2H95XN7PRcHXL/Fa0elMTYwfdzs9V1VZ4pxtGT2lpOMgNhv+FEY4tkHjhA2Mz yqkciazySGWhlD9XW4ME3S9+mWHBT/5YEZ8xqgGyE7CMhnCw+4Pe9Zb/d1Mdli736pAM 7kdRC79J4+rCOoUZFxmjfQRSSF6bHkNy81zjg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8400CE890E874AB4B17E5C8E523184CE@PHIL> References: <8400CE890E874AB4B17E5C8E523184CE@PHIL> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:21:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anyone else excited about Kinect? From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362839fa917e320495d9c880 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 05:21:53 +0000 (UTC) --0016362839fa917e320495d9c880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable a friend posted this on facebook Steve Ballmer: "How can we trick people into putting a computer in their living room, connecting it to the internet, adding a webcam and audio feed to it, and then giving us unlimited remote access, and not only that, but make THEM pay US for all the equipment?" - Xbox Kinect Designer: "... Steve... I just had an idea..." =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminad= a, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta q= ue ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? " http://raulbonell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com --0016362839fa917e320495d9c880 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable a friend posted this on facebook

Steve Ballmer: "How can we trick people into putting a computer in their living room, connecting it to the internet, adding a webcam and audio feed to it, and then giving us unlimited remote access, and not only that, but make THEM pay US for all the equipment?" - Xbox Kinect Designer: "... Steve... I just had an idea..."

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense= saber que estava il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aq= uesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda = o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cos= a aix=ED? "

http://raulb= onell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016362839fa917e320495d9c880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 05:37:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6991E3BE91; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 05:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen P Goodman" To: References: <8400CE890E874AB4B17E5C8E523184CE@PHIL> Subject: Re: Anyone else excited about Kinect? Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:37:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CB8C38.F68EEC10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 05:37:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CB8C38.F68EEC10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve Jobs: "How can we get people to have an unreasonable slavish = emotional attachment to a machine that we can control the hardware = production on, encourage hatred against people who don't use our costly = computers, and make obscene amounts of money?"=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Raul Bonell=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 12:21 AM Subject: Re: Anyone else excited about Kinect? a friend posted this on facebook Steve Ballmer: "How can we trick people into putting a computer in = their living room, connecting it to the internet, adding a webcam and = audio feed to it, and then giving us unlimited remote access, and not = only that, but make THEM pay US for all the equipment?" - Xbox Kinect = Designer: "... Steve... I just had an idea..." = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I b=E9, despr=E9s estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava = il.luminada, exclamava: "O siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de = m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, = =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa = aix=ED? " http://raulbonell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CB8C38.F68EEC10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve Jobs: "How can we get people to = have an=20 unreasonable slavish emotional attachment to a machine that we can = control the=20 hardware production on, encourage hatred against people who don't use = our costly=20 computers, and make obscene amounts of money?"
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Raul=20 Bonell
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, November 25, = 2010 12:21=20 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone else = excited about=20 Kinect?

a friend posted this on facebook

Steve=20 Ballmer: "How can we trick people into putting a computer in their = living=20 room, connecting it to the internet, adding a webcam and audio feed to = it, and=20 then giving us unlimited remote access, and not only that, but make = THEM pay=20 US for all the equipment?" - Xbox Kinect Designer: "... Steve... I = just had an=20 = idea..."


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
I b=E9, despr=E9s = estava aquella dona que sense saber que estava il.luminada, exclamava: = "O=20 siga, que he pagat per aquesta merda de m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan = sols em=20 diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!, no podien posar-li una agulla , = o que=20 pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "

http://raulbonell.tumblr.com =B7 http://www.ct-collective.com

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CB8C38.F68EEC10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 06:04:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 023793BE95; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mta9.brinkster.com From: "CM" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Anyone else excited about Kinect? Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:04:25 -0800 Message-ID: <002601cb8c66$9d650fb0$d82f2f10$@asyouthink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIbKan+q/NjdV3VvcJcS1OKWJ0gJ5LieY0w Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: <33njx.A.NoE.wxf7MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Seems like it's got a ton of potential!=20 Some folks beginning to scratch the surface, here: http://kinecthacks.net/ C -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:09 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Anyone else excited about Kinect? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/11/kinect-with-midi-with-microsofts-3d= -ca mera/ I'm thinking more visually at the moment but this seems to open so many doors to who knows what. And only $150, hard to go wrong. Anyone? Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all = trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 06:34:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F1203BE97; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=A8qqFwsVG/gqQhd48msRv4LMWfdfYhBIMwr8bw+BFyY=; b=ukfmH/4MH2VlXztICWTKrHb3bunWbYkzMmeENbK8TlNOlZzg6ouh8LThUPlOUqPndV GRAcGTQjTbqfgpvbiy7ZfuQ2RBOpYhETilAisb7MkyEYtJrUjR9eejqJWaWXviJOvBCX B/V7ch0/O5S1ANKeUt3u343pTyHsVBquDCvyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=pJmln6roVx4TX9GF4Aa8Bjo3QyUbvUPqBwndLmkgmSGkHrNQ1bfdpYI15QDx21xqJL Im0Sx+t9PdrcqxMFZDLhOsRN1rBZQAxX9nr7fvSidsLRZOQg9iTePA+fnPqXvU8xtDtM RbSnHs2deTrwnUhlTpPoM3f/xPpGe+zsfQZe4= Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <4CE81D0E.108@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 03:33:55 -0300 Cc: Ricky Graham Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4CE7B594.9060109@tiscali.co.uk> <4CE81D0E.108@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:34:34 +0000 (UTC) I frequently use my own slow attack and fast release effects (which do = not need a compressor) but they only become really easy and intuitive when polyphonic (separate = strings) On 20 Nov 2010, at 16:10, Rick Walker wrote: > andy butler wrote: >> "I reckon that part of it is that guitar players tend to be ultra = conservative, >> always looking to what established guitar players use and do." >=20 > Funny that you say that, Andy, because I just got back from the = Percussion Arts Society enormous annual > convention and drummer/percussionists make guitar players look like = the most adventurous musicians on > the planet. interesting point. I have been suffering with conservative guitar = players all my life, yet never thought that the other instrumentalists = are even more conservative. I only compared with bass players that have = been a lot more open to new technologies (carbon bodies, wide range = speakers, preamps in guitar...) finally I accepted that someone who trained many many hours to = intuitively deal with characteristics of an instrument does not easily = give away this work for some new sounds. but to switch to separate strings does not ask for new playing = techniques, rather the opposite: guitarists have to train a lot to work = around the unnatural side effects of the mono guitar! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 09:12:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB8023BE99; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 09:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=U4zZv4vrBRc4XWyS6qCtpQV2bRcKldD7Y574DldBezs=; b=pBoaFA6OZw+evvLC07y9duEcWV73aTSQD/c/y7VvpwcogrzW/6JlYbZlkfU/OJQX9B +OYOfjEP8CM98O44gtFLS+BvXEHQvBJQ39n/I3awR94tHgHIh/kFSSpQvwwZ1r4K1mmz CpS8S2tFau/p2rOkS8itewN+kKMKuqR0QoJ1Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=onR+Vjg+C4CiV6JKWhHaUwGJ8pcLfNj0S5+jk9uIfJdWIXYBeJ/DTe0MQbEYAgn9vq 0xxajngkx5x9YDBbR0DXNvZC9otYpCNjQJo2iywsNHsp+zy7T4MPEZQ33Nxmdn/X3kBi zZlrcZ3c8i3yws7uBcBdUZ/N1RIG2i80GaGAc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CE7B594.9060109@tiscali.co.uk> <4CE81D0E.108@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:12:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADSR stomp box From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 09:12:41 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > I frequently use my own slow attack and fast release effects (which do not need a compressor) I have always liked using a swell pedal when playing. Since I started amplify my guitars and Stick with a laptop I found a great Swell Pedal function in the Amplitube 3 app. This one allows the musician to set the attack time to sync to tempo; for example to fourth notes or eight notes. All through the passed decades I have always missed this function when working with stomp boxes amp and cabinet. > but they only become really easy and intuitive when polyphonic (separate strings) I agree! One important reason for me to integrate the Chapman Stick into my playing is that it gives two outputs, six strings through each. So I can then use an ADSR thingy ("swell pedal") on one side and a "sustain pedal freezer" on the other one. The feeling of expressive freedom is great when you can instantly create chord pads and melodies as part of the same improvisation. But that is Stick specific, with the guitar I have to do the same thing as a two stage process using a looper. When mixing recorded music I use a lot of ADSR processing. But mostly in the other aspect; to give notes more attack and less sustain level. For rhythmic music this is kind of The Universal Super Trick, for ensemble playing musicians as well as for post rec production. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 09:19:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E844B3BE98; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 09:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dV1x0KatNSFeMtjFfR3ceOZWOS245kiZXZV2qoodQug=; b=C76Gwtv1A1FH4vcHpFwrmJvOeGrKQ3xqN5G/rTKsD0ZRZwXWwlpqtmd795OL8EwuJE Z+8A/XsS+f0rLFS8OwXKwtIFmEe1FUHjPCuRiqdUd/AsS/j0jOBaFmwVXPBmndV1G4rA byIpOONNdw0x62z90Z9HMmV2hDEEUOrBCBOOs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XHiU0RnXlAZwZKrBN7x4lzc0JkqqdqGg20HY0OWTEZPffuV5K2eDr3wmPxI43qyZUJ pnsDX4af/1HE2qlqDeX/ChjpBSrPsOyNyCeG+zdUj3XLbis7TR8SOcBUp5D25IRh1YQg 4ip0K6FBw/wpfjMNhoXuDksal7sIJd3ertNOY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <68C67CE7-B84A-4C26-85FF-9EB5F7C5831F@gmail.com> References: <68C67CE7-B84A-4C26-85FF-9EB5F7C5831F@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:19:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: stereo mic From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 09:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Yes, a trumpet playing friend used up to four mics; each mic signal going through different looping effects (different loop lenghts, reverb etc). He could then instantly create "remix-style" sounding music by pointing his trumpet at the mic for the particular audio processing he wanted for the notes he imagined to play. I do this with rapid effect chain patch swapping. The multiple mic method is more fun for the audience, I think, but it only works for acoustic instruments. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:15 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > did you ever see someone using a stereo mic like this? > it only makes sense with looping, and a lot so, I think! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01s8GF_S420 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 13:09:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D13B73BE8C; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 149795.57017.bm@omp1008.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=4QfjKCDVxIjG6mmSyLXZKLVxz9QPY0W3wsxlIcH3vBzWeRFgqbKKFM342CTOivZr9iBDjGynjlXeniJM/hzOEXUpal9OrdTp0geQtJijNl+GZN08yPjD4FSnj0nT47mzdN6kkjgF2lkCXxfzSXgPNzI1cI5tYIrb/3fdVJd27O8= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1290690563; bh=F6jSrPN32p2RLo58V2bzgLGJq63JRycf0gneOwDKSY0=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=bzLzHxnu12CUZaXxaGHPC8trGIIhYfKampqjG2CADmshAjDwsW+Uv9wBEwCWdWTnmYo0VuqxT3V0cnpQKdvW3oaEi1r4meE6VFbcUnV1uyDIJ2z1FBF/XyZMdzLpxaxS8XpURNNNd/OpePGuTjH9aKPCx5iaesz1/3oPqA0tCgw= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: e6dKBKIVM1lfeBWn_0eVtzp09GnKzzWIuTzapJ3izpNfZgE e4vxmohR1.ca5uhrcf9_kKRplHF1EJpDIv02iVwX_03z.do7s9tanrDSCGtG BfGponjcTgk54bUUtnWdpJMbCr.0aRSF9dIMlVdx4OjqoYJ10ZtEAKWJD14R lpmIv5nahYZ3Vb.mETeWF2pFc2G.VSH1AKjFAX9At0AyVdYbkUNgyB1ppLxH B1ZMupQBm5VQDpw5b.oFw36nlnn5Cz4.a.cuCQNjyQrEaskyATNSaeal7SDS MwxVJ1yi6fjrGgGYVCg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <9F9CE733-FB94-436B-9BD5-078EF97856C3@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-998225708 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Ace Eno Doc on the iplayer Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:09:14 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:09:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7-998225708 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00q9xqm/ Brian_Eno_Hits_Classics_and_Tracks/ Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-7-998225708 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
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--Apple-Mail-7-998225708-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 16:13:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F9903BE8E; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=A9Ik85IDg5ahcCfd5amKC5tQChYKXfzKjRF29casbXY=; b=hckpzudCVA3vXxI4pCyZesUWI18UiLHgP5hpbsg+P6gBOSPFkcHk5V549UONYUeQ4M VQ9dh7RNdIp3gwiFDKELPqyJSuQIT3uKnlGY4iWufG9kpoJmOrvAFVr7QgmhnRoxhRgv l8djG27wVO/wnkVNXv2V09DGorY1UsMLJ9MV8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=haajv3pVQ/87OGtgmsW0DAguMCqpSO+4CTMcNcu+fPBwLhJVRoc6Vjj0MCEWnSRM+a smkb4IVZhW+Yq/IqtZRv01eI0kulnIhIoF+1g946G/sLdL59SBJsRWC0X+0fYJaXsRHK /WbOGJMNb/zJa+m3gxzCjMp+SSF+9CO+bxP5c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CED8A9C.2070107@googlemail.com> References: <4CED8A9C.2070107@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:13:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot: need computer nerd help - dsp question From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd57068354ca30495e2e40a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:13:51 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd57068354ca30495e2e40a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks guys. got some good ideas and seb replied on the bidule forum too. that guy is the best. - jim On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > james fowler schrieb: > > the dsp monitor inside of bidule reads 30-50% at any given time (depending >> on number of instruments currently at work) but in task manager cpu usage >> hovers around 10-11%. is there a way to boost dsp allocation or whatever >> (dunno if that's even a real thing) so that bidule has a little more >> headroom? i find that under certain circumstances >> > One thing I found is that for some reason (which may very well make sense, > because in a typical scenario it displays how far you're from interface > driver dropouts), some audio programs seem to display the maximum load on a > single core, not the averaged load over all cores, as Windows' task manager > does. > > There is a strategy that you may try to check (on multicore or > multiprocessor systems) on which core your audio interface driver is running > and then (also using task manager in the "Process" window) keep your audio > app (e.g. Bidule) from using that core. Careful with hyperthreading > architectures (e.g. Nehalem) - you need to remove them from the entire > physical core (which is two cores in the task manager display). Then again, > Windows XP generally has problems with hyperthreading architectures (or so I > heard)... > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --000e0cd57068354ca30495e2e40a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks guys.=A0 got some good ideas and seb replied on the bidule forum too= .=A0 that guy is the best.

- jim

O= n Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
james fowler schr= ieb:

the dsp monitor inside of bidule reads 30-50% at any given time (depending = on number of instruments currently at work) but in task manager cpu usage h= overs around 10-11%. =A0is there a way to boost dsp allocation or whatever = (dunno if that's even a real thing) so that bidule has a little more he= adroom? =A0i find that under certain circumstances
One thing I found is that for some reason (which may very well make sense, = because in a typical scenario it displays how far you're from interface= driver dropouts), some audio programs seem to display the maximum load on = a single core, not the averaged load over all cores, as Windows' task m= anager does.

There is a strategy that you may try to check (on multicore or multiprocess= or systems) on which core your audio interface driver is running and then (= also using task manager in the "Process" window) keep your audio = app (e.g. Bidule) from using that core. Careful with hyperthreading archite= ctures (e.g. Nehalem) - you need to remove them from the entire physical co= re (which is two cores in the task manager display). Then again, Windows XP= generally has problems with hyperthreading architectures (or so I heard)..= .

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

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--000e0cd57068354ca30495e2e40a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 16:27:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D40223BE8D; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pYKN5GX3SyPCds/JIgBC0Yuy/DVq3K0OiPgeW43yxM0=; b=rZtHoMVOSUiGDPVYlMaakyVQEJiY7DqbWBDXAiRrc3oPG9Nv+/IJ0jx2vCj+Bi1rSK ezWOEnuKDNcVDvTBPogSOqFwhmZb3wbtaBTn0btk4aV7zoaN+uWbq2yhF6ICuB9PbwhM QNsLa64Ph5O8OeIJM365mX42K/DdxnawVEO18= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ayX2iktpGcwIKpdo3BIkVbGxLEsZtQwyNX+8S4U+M3f2wRTOg1Ynqfg3HxImSl1m4B 5P4RH5qHb80BQoc9u6+DGn790ZWXgXV5GV05bo0/RFfS+d9K9K2TwNZEhHYprSULu46h 5e3bsZlPFLihZzID44mQrXv1AzmYJMncGXmws= Message-ID: <4CEE8E61.3040600@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:27:13 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stereo mic References: <68C67CE7-B84A-4C26-85FF-9EB5F7C5831F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <68C67CE7-B84A-4C26-85FF-9EB5F7C5831F@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Matthias Grob schrieb: > did you ever see someone using a stereo mic like this? > it only makes sense with looping, and a lot so, I think! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01s8GF_S420 Been thinking about this in the past - but decided I still prefer the benefits of a clipon mic over that possibility. Then I thought about a sensor that would translate my movement into panning info - anyone can see that Kinect you're all discussing doing this? However, I don't think that only makes sense for looping: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt856_nRxQk Here, Patton use two different effect/EQ settings on the different microphones. Another one to that regard (albeit with stereo, not effects) is by Roland Kirk, but I can't find the clip right now (did I even see it on youtube/the internet?) Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 16:45:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF2DD3BE8F; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-AuditID: a22c23ca-b7ca1ae000001777-09-4ceea0252ccd Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Anyone else excited about Kinect? Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:45:46 -0000 Message-ID: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F8FCD18@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> In-Reply-To: <002601cb8c66$9d650fb0$d82f2f10$@asyouthink.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Anyone else excited about Kinect? Thread-Index: AQIbKan+q/NjdV3VvcJcS1OKWJ0gJ5LieY0wgACxXyA= References: <002601cb8c66$9d650fb0$d82f2f10$@asyouthink.com> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2010 16:45:47.0388 (UTC) FILETIME=[35C4A3C0:01CB8CC0] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:45:48 +0000 (UTC) I'm really excited about the kinect. Not just from a gaming point of = view - I love the idea of being "in" a game like call of duty or = something (although I'm defo not a hardcore gamer), but also from a = music point of view. The body midi controller, although a bit crude at the moment is an = indication of what can be done and what is to come. I've heard some = strong rumours about Microsoft launching an Xbox 360 app store similar = to Apple's, which, if it's done in the same way, would mean that = developers will be able to write programs for kinect whether it be = music, games, etc , etc. Let's just hope Microsoft don't restrict the = veritable football field of developing possibilities to a 1 metre square = inpenetrable prison like Apple do! =20 -----Original Message----- From: CM [mailto:listmail@asyouthink.com]=20 Sent: 25 November 2010 06:04 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Anyone else excited about Kinect? Seems like it's got a ton of potential!=20 Some folks beginning to scratch the surface, here: http://kinecthacks.net/ C -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:09 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Anyone else excited about Kinect? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/11/kinect-with-midi-with-microsofts-3d= -ca mera/ I'm thinking more visually at the moment but this seems to open so many doors to who knows what. And only $150, hard to go wrong. Anyone? Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all = trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 25 18:20:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7280C3BE8E; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZwvOfid5oWlZIE5+Gp1TycAte6rGOlIcsRbuYYKvW/I=; b=HQlmZHqnfDeeWsexDIGhU2MNzr6F0sCFjzvruwQNsEkIE9Vs0TUhwzpSJ+/E0FuDDw ITr/I4CooDrFlY9s2U7bUOGTNdTbgy2A+goqHzUy2sQz9rRml3MRer2vIDrHq5vQuKze XLZEihGzkLvp2WWVGB8ldz8TlRSVH0QJfx3Xk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jumvioaOe8g258/6i2/pkQbJUjnMXLFrrBfsDWV+BKjs+O/Vi0vBsov6RpnHpdBMdg euH8/OIPssIkpZIF8jgEJxhJ94xIoFHabpUT7LdXkD/VT1vFqLVbp6eUVyh+j81Htr2U fRJsx/ZCOUhG4oFyDJuhb2rit4fd/Ft7V42K8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <68C67CE7-B84A-4C26-85FF-9EB5F7C5831F@gmail.com> References: <68C67CE7-B84A-4C26-85FF-9EB5F7C5831F@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:20:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: stereo mic From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <8iIJDB.A.8GB.4jq7MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:20:40 +0000 (UTC) I think that the "Part 2" video of this is even more demonstrative; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kN-lGg8fT4 I, too, have been investigating this approach a bit, as the studio evolves. Time will tell just where it leads...watch the soundcloud page. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > did you ever see someone using a stereo mic like this? > it only makes sense with looping, and a lot so, I think! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01s8GF_S420 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 02:17:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C3D03BE8B; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 02:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <020d01cb8d0f$fe0753b0$6400a8c0@vulcan> From: "d.nix" To: Subject: Echoplex Digital Pro+, FCB1010 for sale Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:16:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 02:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Hello all- I've sadly come to the conclusion that the EDP is far more machine than I am able to take advantage of, and is not something I can really make use of in my current musical projects, so it needs to find a new home. I'm advertising it locally on Craigslist here in the SF Bay Peninsula area: http://sfbay.en.craigslist.org/pen/msg/2079562521.html The ad is for a local sale only, however if one of you are interested, and are in the continental US, I'll discuss shipping and payment and see if we can make something work. I am firm on my price, $600 for the EDP and matching foot switch; it has the full 192 sec of memory and the latest LoopIV software. Also available is a brand new, still in the box FCB1010 for $100. The EDP+ is a staggering monster of a tool/instrument, and for those of you here that helped develop it, I gotta say - wow! Whatta cool machine. But in my personal music and performing situation, it just never really fit, and I have not got the time to invest in learning all the ins and out of using it. Hopefully someone here or locally in the area can make better use of it. Feel free to contact me if you are interested or have questions. Dave From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 04:18:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B5E43BE80; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 04:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1290745109; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=dH/1mjgsZEfxXfkicX+hQunsyb0=; b=T70XJpPbM/BBJ56gyYrzFPo+pWiQy1ZwAVeZwTPtXtjhbSsOM5dQ7YPy0MqSD2Sp 85WoraA3g+XZjUaDSd19xsfFe91D4vaEsjExOOIX8t3Z9ZBApmy9zx2fF0MhAAfE; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=GjSw85aYhVAez9m2lqToYDQxaUjuIZzYAcBkgnPwn54= c=1 sm=0 a=CTLREkTij3UA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=is9nDo_drhQA:10 a=WgGnsWhr-M5K-0HhB3wA:9 a=PIyUgVVIG5Zfto5LGe4pCAGNzX4A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=vtrglRXNm2orcMX-4NgA:7 a=V3wkqfewYgf_29ypNVP0YZOF3w8A:4 a=Hhc/OnKmOS1xKI2oHPQhqg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:18:29 -0500 (EST) From: EDWARD YUHAS To: Loopers-Delight Message-ID: <1062914238.1024176.1290745109682.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> Subject: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1024175_635862530.1290745109681" X-Originating-IP: [76.1.247.128] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2328.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2213.RHEL4_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 04:18:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1024175_635862530.1290745109681 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone!=20 Just a few questions...I know there was a recent laptop thread where someon= e mentioned they were using Soundplant to run short "one offs" and loops, a= lso Mobius and Ambiloop, etc. I use Soundplant already, but have been readi= ng up on the looping programs.=20 I'm just wondering what some of us are using for really good, customizable = drum loops, and I'm referring to artist such as Erik Wollo, Patrick O'Hearn= and even our own Simeon Harris.=C2=A0All of their latest CDs are phenomena= l and incorporate some kind of drum tracking.=20 You guys/gals (there are others on the list I can't think of now) always ha= ve such rich, deep sounding drum tracks with world beat influence, or tweak= ed, with ambient sounds, etc. What programs are good for this, and how simp= le to use are they, and how do you trigger them on/off, or add drum parts f= rom files if you've got hands on a guitar, ebow, etc.?=20 Also, if you're running such software, or soft synths...how do you record w= ith your laptop while everything else is running? I'd be using a Tascam US1= 22L interface.=20 As you can tell, I'm trying to incorporate a laptop to my floorboard that w= ill do some interesting things for my music, without going overboard. One s= mall step at a time...=20 Thanks for your suggestions...=20 Ed in NJ=20 ------=_Part_1024175_635862530.1290745109681 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hello everyone!

 

Just a few questions...I know there was a recent laptop thread where someone mentioned they were using Soundplant to run short "one offs" and loops, also Mobius and Ambiloop, etc. I use Soundplant already, but have been reading up on the looping programs.

 

I'm just wondering what some of us are using for really good, customizable drum loops, and I'm referring to artist such as Erik Wollo, Patrick O'Hearn and even our own Simeon Harris. All of their latest CDs are phenomenal and incorporate some kind of drum tracking.

 

You guys/gals (there are others on the list I can't think of now) always have such rich, deep sounding drum tracks with world beat influence, or tweaked, with ambient sounds, etc. What programs are good for this, and how simple to use are they, and how do you trigger them on/off, or add drum parts from files if you've got hands on a guitar, ebow, etc.?

 

Also, if you're running such software, or soft synths...how do you record with your laptop while everything else is running? I'd be using a Tascam US122L interface.

 

As you can tell, I'm trying to incorporate a laptop to my floorboard that will do some interesting things for my music, without going overboard. One small step at a time...

 

Thanks for your suggestions...

 

Ed in NJ

------=_Part_1024175_635862530.1290745109681-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 08:32:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C4403BE8B; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 08:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen P Goodman" To: References: <1062914238.1024176.1290745109682.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> Subject: Re: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 03:32:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB8D1A.8516A130" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 08:32:21 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB8D1A.8516A130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use FLStudio for drum loops. (Discovered it through LD of course!) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: EDWARD YUHAS=20 To: Loopers-Delight=20 Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:18 PM Subject: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. Hello everyone! Just a few questions...I know there was a recent laptop thread where = someone mentioned they were using Soundplant to run short "one offs" and = loops, also Mobius and Ambiloop, etc. I use Soundplant already, but have = been reading up on the looping programs. I'm just wondering what some of us are using for really good, = customizable drum loops, and I'm referring to artist such as Erik Wollo, = Patrick O'Hearn and even our own Simeon Harris. All of their latest CDs = are phenomenal and incorporate some kind of drum tracking. You guys/gals (there are others on the list I can't think of now) = always have such rich, deep sounding drum tracks with world beat = influence, or tweaked, with ambient sounds, etc. What programs are good = for this, and how simple to use are they, and how do you trigger them = on/off, or add drum parts from files if you've got hands on a guitar, = ebow, etc.? Also, if you're running such software, or soft synths...how do you = record with your laptop while everything else is running? I'd be using a = Tascam US122L interface. As you can tell, I'm trying to incorporate a laptop to my floorboard = that will do some interesting things for my music, without going = overboard. One small step at a time... Thanks for your suggestions... Ed in NJ ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB8D1A.8516A130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
I use FLStudio for drum loops.  = (Discovered it=20 through LD of course!)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 EDWARD=20 YUHAS
To: Loopers-Delight =
Sent: Thursday, November 25, = 2010 11:18=20 PM
Subject: Laptops, Drum Loops, = etc.

Hello everyone!

 

Just a few questions...I know there was a recent laptop thread = where=20 someone mentioned they were using Soundplant to run short "one offs" = and=20 loops, also Mobius and Ambiloop, etc. I use Soundplant already, but = have been=20 reading up on the looping programs.

 

I'm just wondering what some of us are using for really good, = customizable=20 drum loops, and I'm referring to artist such as Erik Wollo, Patrick = O'Hearn=20 and even our own Simeon Harris. All of their latest CDs are = phenomenal=20 and incorporate some kind of drum tracking.

 

You guys/gals (there are others on the list I can't think of now) = always=20 have such rich, deep sounding drum tracks with world beat influence, = or=20 tweaked, with ambient sounds, etc. What programs are good for this, = and how=20 simple to use are they, and how do you trigger them on/off, or add = drum parts=20 from files if you've got hands on a guitar, ebow, etc.?

 

Also, if you're running such software, or soft synths...how do you = record=20 with your laptop while everything else is running? I'd be using a = Tascam=20 US122L interface.

 

As you can tell, I'm trying to incorporate a laptop to my = floorboard that=20 will do some interesting things for my music, without going overboard. = One=20 small step at a time...

 

Thanks for your suggestions...

 

Ed in NJ

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB8D1A.8516A130-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 09:19:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F53A3BE8C; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7At4AcmYGfp9RYNzIh2jB4rYBAtbQgEHhxtC4wJLH7k=; b=OVrDsYl6vgaVxSk74kpFAs8st0Gh0B2Y38aU+gX9Kw8vGw27UIE2kAWHZEzl8r0tSg UtVewhc9jzpTMqAeoRu+GsBnIlp+R9dmoc10T0nz5UyLWGJL10piUSIhitcwHyxTktMI d23YXjrPRD9WmlXTHDM12a2ZzoNdpIM+CS+OI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=L54iHr4y4b0ekZQz3ZcjufMMKq8jwxV4YT5SQRVSimsxIAv9KZaq1/nbb/898ulOwP 3CV+AYJIjmDDoS0PvawjDOH8lkXx2Rokkln9wxZ7T0VR4juf/sWSvpL6NePhaORtutPg UIb1uBZuBGh62ser7Y7jERzi1b113WkkfwKFk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <1062914238.1024176.1290745109682.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:19:31 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3f89a58dfd10495f138df Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:19:32 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd3f89a58dfd10495f138df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well recording and live are two very different paradigms (for me) for recordings i use a huge variety of techniques and sound sources - loops, samplers, beatboxes etc and any of these can be treated in a variety of ways. i have incorporated some beats into my live looping setup, (i'm using mobius hosted in bidule) and for drums i use two instances of reaktor with beatboxes loaded into them. i can turn them on and off via midi and they sync to mobius, which is pumping out midi clock. it's not very flexible (at the moment) because i havn't figured out how to select different patterns, so i just live with a couple for a while and when i get bored of them i change to new new ones. as for recording, i use the handy "audio file recorder" inside bidule. sim On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Stephen P Goodman wrote: > I use FLStudio for drum loops. (Discovered it through LD of course!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* EDWARD YUHAS > *To:* Loopers-Delight > *Sent:* Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:18 PM > *Subject:* Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. > > Hello everyone! > > > > Just a few questions...I know there was a recent laptop thread where > someone mentioned they were using Soundplant to run short "one offs" and > loops, also Mobius and Ambiloop, etc. I use Soundplant already, but have > been reading up on the looping programs. > > > > I'm just wondering what some of us are using for really good, customizable > drum loops, and I'm referring to artist such as Erik Wollo, Patrick O'Hearn > and even our own Simeon Harris. All of their latest CDs are phenomenal and > incorporate some kind of drum tracking. > > > > You guys/gals (there are others on the list I can't think of now) always > have such rich, deep sounding drum tracks with world beat influence, or > tweaked, with ambient sounds, etc. What programs are good for this, and how > simple to use are they, and how do you trigger them on/off, or add drum > parts from files if you've got hands on a guitar, ebow, etc.? > > > > Also, if you're running such software, or soft synths...how do you record > with your laptop while everything else is running? I'd be using a Tascam > US122L interface. > > > > As you can tell, I'm trying to incorporate a laptop to my floorboard that > will do some interesting things for my music, without going overboard. One > small step at a time... > > > > Thanks for your suggestions... > > > > Ed in NJ > > --000e0cd3f89a58dfd10495f138df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well recording and live are two very different paradigms (for me)

fo= r recordings i use a huge variety of techniques and sound sources - loops, = samplers, beatboxes etc and any of these can be treated in a variety of way= s.
i have incorporated some beats into my live looping setup, (i'm using m= obius hosted in bidule) and for drums i use two instances of reaktor with b= eatboxes loaded into them. i can turn them on and off via midi and they syn= c to mobius, which is pumping out midi clock. it's not very flexible (a= t the moment) because i havn't figured out how to select different patt= erns, so i just live with a couple for a while and when i get bored of them= i change to new new ones.
as for recording, i use the handy "audio file recorder" inside bi= dule.
sim

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:32= AM, Stephen P Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
I use FLStudio for drum loops.=A0 (Dis= covered it=20 through LD of course!)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 EDWARD=20 YUHAS
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010= 11:18=20 PM
Subject: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc= .

Hello everyone!

=A0

Just a few questions...I know there was a recent laptop thread where= =20 someone mentioned they were using Soundplant to run short "one offs&= quot; and=20 loops, also Mobius and Ambiloop, etc. I use Soundplant already, but have = been=20 reading up on the looping programs.

=A0

I'm just wondering what some of us are using for really good, cust= omizable=20 drum loops, and I'm referring to artist such as Erik Wollo, Patrick O= 'Hearn=20 and even our own Simeon Harris.=A0All of their latest CDs are phenomenal= =20 and incorporate some kind of drum tracking.

=A0

You guys/gals (there are others on the list I can't think of now) = always=20 have such rich, deep sounding drum tracks with world beat influence, or= =20 tweaked, with ambient sounds, etc. What programs are good for this, and h= ow=20 simple to use are they, and how do you trigger them on/off, or add drum p= arts=20 from files if you've got hands on a guitar, ebow, etc.?

=A0

Also, if you're running such software, or soft synths...how do you= record=20 with your laptop while everything else is running? I'd be using a Tas= cam=20 US122L interface.

=A0

As you can tell, I'm trying to incorporate a laptop to my floorboa= rd that=20 will do some interesting things for my music, without going overboard. On= e=20 small step at a time...

=A0

Thanks for your suggestions...

=A0

Ed in NJ


--000e0cd3f89a58dfd10495f138df-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 09:57:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21E633BE8D; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=diNpm2SPDoQr7G1yjtROttP+zqsjyXOYi/6nIN/7kh4=; b=EW8BYY2qSpyXdPl9/qzaRy+pOLx2n9FRxfV49xpl/zi4x4zx3i3TZkwJopLh8uxV1N tjzm8BzDGhNExZQ/9/fReNo6jLlmCARoIqnct9n3yuJ1R8oPvnYoIR5RQ9YJUOKzt5y+ 3w9o0CH0YQJyed/rSNR9WvMuxs7dBFBxaT2nM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w2hKz+0qo8MQKCC1R/VTl7WCFd1n2FZYIJc38IP9b8YJVgB89uoDM/VX9q1beIWpsJ +26XnV8d9VnpNtRsyB4Wc7OCVPz1Uy0jtjErXUQtmMMRyOeDJCCRHMDVTfoN36gcHyD2 aEG7sqj/AMtU0/q2dPXVWYM1HA0qpLd6UP+e0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1062914238.1024176.1290745109682.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:57:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:57:39 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- EDWARD YUHAS wrote: > You guys/gals (there are others on the list I can't think of now) always > have such rich, deep sounding drum tracks with world beat influence, or > tweaked, with ambient sounds, etc. What programs are good for this, and how > simple to use are they, and how do you trigger them on/off, or add drum > parts from files if you've got hands on a guitar, ebow, etc.? For live work I avoid drum tracks. But for recordings, and even for finalizing of live recordings, I sometimes add drums in-the-box. When the ambition is to create a drum track that has an organic feel to it I prefer Spectrasonics RMX. This is a loop playback software and plug-in that has a unique "semi intelligence" for musical random variation. I have recorded my own loops of Berimba, Udu etc to use with RMX. In order to import custom loops into RMX you first need a way to create REX files (ReCycle can do this). But you don't have to create your own loops; Spectrasonics offers very good libraries, of which I own most, especially in the realms of world, dub and breakbeat. Although I don't use drum tracks live I have experimented with adding that to a laptop live setup and my finding is that plugins like RMX, the Native Instrument stuff or Logic/Mainstage's UltraBeat, Guru/Geist are too CPU intensive for today's (laptop) computers. However, there is one drum solution that seems to work well and that is iDrum. I've owned it from versioin 1.0 (well even beta I guess) since I was a big fan of the sample slicing beat maker pHATmatik PRO created by Art Gillespie who is a "musician that looked into programing and software developing". iDrum was his second big piece of software. It is a drum sampler with built-in step sequencer and the great thing for us laptop live looping musicians is that it has a Song Mode. This means you can set up a long sequence of drumming pattern changes that just plays on and on without you having to manually "switch patterns". The second good point with iDrum is its low CPU intensity and the good sound and pattern/song libraries available (for example the XRB kits). Today iDrum is sold by http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/idrum/ When speaking combined sampler and pattern based step sequencer there are of course more advanced solutions than iDrum, but they are all too heavy for live work and better at home in the studio environment. The one I like most is Geist, the newest thing from fxPansion (that replaces their previous Guru). If you like to produce modern sounding Drum n Base, UK house, techno etc Geist is just awesome. It is the only combined solution I know about that also incorporates live sampling. Unfortunately you can't sample live and instantly have the snagged audio snippet played back by running sequence patterns - you need to first hit a key on the laptop to save the live sample from RAM to DISC before it can be assigned to a pad that is driven by the sequencer. I have written to fxPansion to wish for a full live sampling/sequencing work flow to be controlled by MIDI foot pedals, but it is not here yet (but oh so close...) If you can use Ableton Live as the plugin host for your looper you may set up as many drum loops you like in Live. Live has a quite good random variation system. Not as musical as RMX but on the other hand there is no limit of how many alternative loops you can set up for the random jumper to pick on. So Live can be tweaked to sound quite "un-stiff" ;-) Live is also rather stable. I don't use it live though because I like to set the global tempo by my playing and looping and for this sync scenario Live is not as stable a host as Bidule or Mainstage (with the stuff I do). With a fixed host based tempo though, Live rocks in stability. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 13:51:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2096A3BE87; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 530661576/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.29.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.29.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At4BAIpK70xYbR2a/2dsb2JhbAAHg0mRPIVvuRCQL4EhgzNzBI1k X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,261,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="530661576" Message-ID: <4CEFBB74.5090609@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:51:48 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. References: <1062914238.1024176.1290745109682.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2Aa0fD.A.C5F.yt77MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:51:47 +0000 (UTC) > If you like to produce modern sounding > Drum n Base, UK house, techno etc those are modern?? didn't we change century since then andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 14:12:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DBFA3BE8A; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E22UTp4Wl0t6V1KFXHtn7q76+ICI9iOFFHourk9ZSG0=; b=NZQf+cn0VPTdwh7dSjJ9rFkqGD7KcB597YmhjUmncziSnHnbv8/T9egk+GKgu3aS8F EAMEJq0s1fe/Xz9ixijZvyT7ZSugobkFu2/LXnbVhhyPDOn1kzuRcAGC9EshhpvYepPW zaSa8CpOq6h+/Z6piY7sdH6ECszB81lhcQMFs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=yIJqfXvEE+eTgnECKm30RTKfAQr9HkR5CYkWP+Iqh8GxeEiNr2uUS41CRvfbFvpzej 7l+0ZlnpAUvG3bGKQxDPWG11Hzx5++S9qCMl+8nlYjUV9myZS6q4lClwGwAtVmBIF84n Lt3y8UiPLcSZm8KA4El5svbSmfsqu0tNQw0rI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CEFBB74.5090609@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1062914238.1024176.1290745109682.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> <4CEFBB74.5090609@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:12:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:12:38 +0000 (UTC) >> If you like to produce modern sounding >> Drum n Base, UK house, techno etc On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 2:51 PM, andy butler wrote: > those are modern?? If you thinks so. It's all relative... In this regard I used the word "modern" for sound design techniques popularized during the last two decades. Since Edward wrote that he is most interested in tips for "world" style sounding drum tracks I thought the word "modern" together with these three music style examples would be good enough to describe what Geist is best at (right off the bat, that is - of course you can achieve world style sounding drum tracks even with Geist if you tweak around a bit. As well as today's drum track styles) > didn't we change century since then That's of minor interest right here since the discussion is about drum track solutions for a laptop based live rig. Per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 14:47:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9A243BE8A; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <28572373.575101290782849774.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:47:29 +0100 (CET) From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: Massimo Liverani To: Subject: the knot...in bandcamp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_53350_9504829.1290782849774" X-SenderIP: 85.47.237.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:47:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_53350_9504829.1290782849774 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thank you for listen my new tracks in bandcamp: http://massimoliverani.bandcamp.com/album/the-knot Massimo liverani (Max Liver) ------=_Part_53350_9504829.1290782849774 Content-Type: text/html;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

thank you for listen my new tracks in bandcamp:


http://massimoliverani.bandcamp.com/album/the-knot


Massimo liverani (Max Liver)

------=_Part_53350_9504829.1290782849774-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 15:06:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A583B3BE8C; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 530705514/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.29.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.29.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At4BAB9c70xYbR2a/2dsb2JhbAAHg0mRPIVvuRyQK4EhgzNzBI1k X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,261,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="530705514" Message-ID: <4CEFCCE2.6070709@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:06:10 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. References: <1062914238.1024176.1290745109682.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> <4CEFBB74.5090609@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0oGU4D.A.fcH.gz87MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:06:08 +0000 (UTC) > >> didn't we change century since then > > That's of minor interest right here since the discussion is about drum > track solutions for a laptop based live rig. > > Per ;-) back in the good old 20th I'm sure folks were less strict about staying on thread andy ps Isn't Tuareg supposed to be good for beat creation? http://www.brambos.com/archive.html these days it's free From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 16:32:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD98C3BE87; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uU+mSNOMO0hdMPTJGm5Vyq7JQIgP8xy6jVUziuxOLhA=; b=qrFiqaw0uBu88suBFnaExAU0d8ugMZOIRQ2vmeLozpuzB51rG+3GyJTBEQN87eA4ar 8cCeQVNsB/ssQgNsDD107CTwkGxbYP85L1nn1w7IqzhJfpi+ig1L2iQAX2HzVIPC8gzG 9i8UH+Y0ueHpEcYcHVsQiWV33j+RhHN8TM57w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oMucXaQ8HLev4l/j/Rgc/tcjgBgRDYLrFv10S+y7FwL5T9lIyixqkwLBxcSB/Hu2lm DXQD55BQ9zlrhcCcZ9U/you/eAfpfg8WMhdmq9b85JR5okv0MbLffVkNEYp4NlYF/S6N F6d/114iRj+SIuPYLT5MfZ5+U9AKv6nI5Yojw= Message-ID: <4CEFE13E.1020301@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:33:02 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. References: <1062914238.1024176.1290745109682.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <1062914238.1024176.1290745109682.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:32:56 +0000 (UTC) EDWARD YUHAS schrieb: > > You guys/gals (there are others on the list I can't think of now) > always have such rich, deep sounding drum tracks with world beat > influence, or tweaked, with ambient sounds, etc. What programs are > good for this, and how simple to use are they, and how do you trigger > them on/off, or add drum parts from files if you've got hands on a > guitar, ebow, etc.? > > Also, if you're running such software, or soft synths...how do you > record with your laptop while everything else is running? I'd be using > a Tascam US122L interface. > As others did already mention, there's a big difference between live and studio use, and I understand you're after the live aspect mostly. While I didn't use drum parts on my last two albums, there was a lot of stuff on those before (all of those are "kinda live", meaning everything is performed on the spot): One approach is to use prerecorded drum loops (I used some from the Kontakt 2 library), such as the grooves in the track "The Streets" (Weird Specialist). Another approach for me was to program the drums on the fly, using the drum grid view in Ableton Live and then controlling a sound source (mostly Battery 2). To get this more interesting, I use VST plugins to treat the audio signal - a lot has been done using the (free) SupaTrigga (http://bram.smartelectronix.com/), some MadShifta ("Weird Specialist, Part II) and the Ableton Live Frequency Delay (or what it's called) on "Virtual Baggy Pants" (Quelques Papiers D'Abord). It would (in theory) work well to record the parts via some controller (MIDI keyboard, trigger pads e.g. Akai MPD24), but I didn't do that (at least there's no released example I remember where I did that). In short: use some basic way to get the groove you're after into the computer - or use something prepared. Then, use effects to make it interesting. Album links: "Weird Specialist": http://moinlabs.de/index.php?id=273 Relevant Tracks: everything except "Errico's Grave". "Quelques Papiers D'Abord": http://moinlabs.de/index.php?id=272 Relevant Tracks: Aspirin Age, Virtual Baggy Pants The only track where pre-recorded drum loops were used is "The Streets", all other drums were programmed on the fly. As for recording the output, I use TapeIt (the freeware version) on the 2bus: http://www.silverspike.com/?Products:TapeIt Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 16:46:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 279533BE8B; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6wg+Rvt1XczpqCDQ/Axqs+amGZ88qIWr/XcvWSCjBUA=; b=DdP4T6rYrfy+ZA6C1WA2K8crCmGAdKulL6d0n/eQ7m/93PFn4VT+igRkd3xg5UIWf4 Bnc7iFqo25B0f/eAguXRgHGk6nJb5OxlL9s/g1WDID9eTjduyjt2yjTUWlnryMq3UzNl r2ZisJ1A5ca6H83nBrieEgagIAc1Cu2pstcMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=u6KVlYOgbzMcSMayz55Lr8obA0KMoftQS0GfN/NTY1jKC+FClLSSwjus06lkmWXyEG P2HCPdlMv8C9fA/rGzPE8QUdCNz0RkFhjBtfkv4sbiDgleuTgDd8yfmPXtOCiTSFiKk+ WaiZSvNaZnW7AoGFeH1B0cgK4VhxN2IWcPCH8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CEFCCE2.6070709@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1062914238.1024176.1290745109682.JavaMail.root@md12.embarq.synacor.com> <4CEFBB74.5090609@tiscali.co.uk> <4CEFCCE2.6070709@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:46:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:46:51 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, andy butler wrote: > ps > Isn't Tuareg supposed to be good for beat creation? > > http://www.brambos.com/archive.html > > these days it's free Interesting! Looking forward to list members posting experiences with this plug-in. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 19:48:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 724753BE8D; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CF00EFA.4040707@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:48:10 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4LiI4D.A.5ZF.C8A8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Percussion music is revolution. Sound and rhythm have too long been submissive to the restrictions of nineteenth century music. Today we are fighting for their emancipation. Tomorrow, with electronic music in our ears, we will hear freedom. - John Cage A wonderful quote from the maestro himself. In a way, live looping tools have really done wonders to further this quest for the emancipation he talks of, don't you think? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 26 19:54:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0F833BE8F; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=toHiNs_Pn1n-EDiFlnsA:9 a=eT4dEQWMxFOg7a8c5hkhg9hGMMgA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <56922EE7-A4B6-4F4A-A0A5-0A0A4FBAB0FD@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4CF00EFA.4040707@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:54:31 -0800 References: <4CF00EFA.4040707@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Wonderful quote there Rick. Thanks for sharing. Best, Ted On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Percussion music is revolution. Sound and rhythm have too long been > submissive to the restrictions of nineteenth century music. Today we > are fighting for their emancipation. Tomorrow, with electronic music > in our ears, we will hear freedom. > > - John Cage > > > A wonderful quote from the maestro himself. In a way, live > looping tools have > really done wonders to further this quest for the emancipation he > talks of, don't you think? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 02:21:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 165113BE8D; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 02:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 03:21:45 +0100 Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom X-Originating-Ip: 72.188.15.122 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-02.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101127022145.78C626545AE@c-in3ws--03-02.sv2.lotuslive.com> X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=PulfmWnd7sdvC6SfiC25Z3KSmhV4MYmudYUa95u8QsY= c=1 sm=1 a=z86hs4bwBEQA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=y1OxAYyqkOV/ifp8Z859+A==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=jLbM8sejAAAA:8 a=-y-x6UcKAAAA:8 a=A7Wvaz8EAAAA:8 a=mux_wvqn0Ufm8SRcmVsA:9 a=Iz8W1GjAJ-ypIMphrA4A:7 a=gKhmPUYYrgtRq36TTv-jpEjjlJIA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=WkljmVdYkabdwxfqvArNOQ==:117 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 02:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Hello All, Anyone have an idea of the context of that quote? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom > Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:54:31 -0800 >=20 >=20 > Wonderful quote there Rick. >=20 > Thanks for sharing. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Ted >=20 > On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >=20 > > Percussion music is revolution. Sound and rhythm have too long=20 > > been submissive to the restrictions of nineteenth century music.=20 > > Today we are fighting for their emancipation. Tomorrow, with=20 > > electronic music in our ears, we will hear freedom. > > > > - John Cage > > > > > > A wonderful quote from the maestro himself. In a way, live=20=20 > > looping tools have > > really done wonders to further this quest for the emancipation he=20 > > talks of, don't you think? > > > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 02:39:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33E0B3BE93; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 02:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=etXnRKHETeUOluam7Pgg3ZnENtn07+QjPV7qatMOG6w=; b=qAZroe2uWWNB4LBsmb65jXcqGppZKOAquOQXSspagUB/PpXMZ2+BXyH0+usdwAg8yv IgV2/waWX4lr/WlqWR/d0WbP22nDiKtR/1ykxxVkEcdrtiswVk3CpC+tHJNMB/t/B18E 8zZlXuJhKIjgHdO5oZ1diyZSUg0NwXAJsBIwg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vA/5EORY1u1mX9z7EFvAnOlcFeDCHSWclypBqV0Lg6f89UY1Vznf6uhy+UZSB26KDY BdIOCmh8RzTF0UN1D/LqUQgwjfRFKL+hjUa3bClaEWMaUXBap3zoGmUUGLKh5N0gAwD5 rDUmSGlEvCWQD+pAPCuzLA275/gn0+w/PrH2g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20101127022145.78C626545AE@c-in3ws--03-02.sv2.lotuslive.com> References: <20101127022145.78C626545AE@c-in3ws--03-02.sv2.lotuslive.com> From: "Jim W." Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:38:50 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 02:39:32 +0000 (UTC) It is a great quote & I don't recall seeing it before - thanks, Rick. I back-tracked a citation to this very nice percussion overview at: http://www.newmusicbox.org/page.nmbx?id=3D60tp03 Not the original source but a very interesting read. On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Mark Showalter wrote: > Hello All, > > Anyone have an idea of the context of that quote? > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom >> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:54:31 -0800 >> >> >> Wonderful quote there Rick. >> >> Thanks for sharing. >> >> Best, >> >> Ted >> >> On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >> >> > Percussion music is revolution. Sound and rhythm have too long >> > been =A0submissive to the restrictions of nineteenth century music. >> > Today we =A0are fighting for their emancipation. Tomorrow, with >> > electronic music =A0in our ears, we will hear freedom. >> > >> > - John Cage >> > >> > >> > A wonderful quote from the maestro himself. =A0 In a way, =A0live >> > looping tools have >> > really done wonders to further this quest for the emancipation he >> > =A0talks of, don't you think? >> > > >> > > > > Mark Showalter > Minden Jot! > > myspace.com/folkstone57 > http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 03:04:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5A893BE8E; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 03:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OLJCS1EyHJMi5WYV0J+clpoQH2tvgqhQw+jRryNWFfM=; b=A39EZUNN7BpmUJ0tvNsPORxOaKJuXQezrH3/wQzLmM6fyFFQfBlrMatLx81BjvuS0y UjUE303Up2aseRLC3UgVlHUnwn1mZdadjOAzChD4oXozCRi2iSdg//qB3wdYSEwf0d4F Xg+lIe33yglTRVWIAgwlxznaL/qLQccE0PB4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=apEnsMj0waIHRaVhhKrtOiN8fTRWe0vXitHQutwlKmfTcbviIEqeb9NkT87XLNuW5i /ibDbjzN8ogh8UEFf/oOSVs9vLtmViAAvmSrpHMQhpbTOB3IVuFxVvKmZkspkpgOen1U PwO7YPRnrwWsKhpbeAuBEYDzARfJqIXHqwNCI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20101127022145.78C626545AE@c-in3ws--03-02.sv2.lotuslive.com> References: <20101127022145.78C626545AE@c-in3ws--03-02.sv2.lotuslive.com> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:04:10 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3fd853d728dc049600172b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 03:04:11 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba3fd853d728dc049600172b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good ol' Google. >From a book "Silence: Lectures and Writings" by John Cage page 87: http://tinyurl.com/283p4vq http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=3Dbooks&linkCode=3Dqs&keywords=3D0819= 560286 j On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Mark Showalter wrote: > Hello All, > > Anyone have an idea of the context of that quote? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom > > Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:54:31 -0800 > > > > > > Wonderful quote there Rick. > > > > Thanks for sharing. > > > > Best, > > > > Ted > > > > On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > > > Percussion music is revolution. Sound and rhythm have too long > > > been submissive to the restrictions of nineteenth century music. > > > Today we are fighting for their emancipation. Tomorrow, with > > > electronic music in our ears, we will hear freedom. > > > > > > - John Cage > > > > > > > > > A wonderful quote from the maestro himself. In a way, live > > > looping tools have > > > really done wonders to further this quest for the emancipation he > > > talks of, don't you think? > > > > > > > > > > Mark Showalter > Minden Jot! > > myspace.com/folkstone57 > http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter > http://signatures.mylivesignature.com/54488/99/F2BFFC9AD8D6528EA1E10C1043= 965108.png" > style=3D"border: 0 !important; background: transparent;"/> > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > --90e6ba3fd853d728dc049600172b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good ol' Google.

From a book "Silence: Lectures and Writing= s" by John Cage
page 87: htt= p://tinyurl.com/283p4vq
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On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Ma= rk Showalter <folkstone57@operamail.com> wrote:
Hello All,

Anyone have an idea of the context of that quote?

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn <te= dkillian@charter.net>
> To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:54:31 -0800
>
>
> Wonderful quote there Rick.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> Best,
>
> Ted
>
> On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
> > Percussion music is revolution. Sound and rhythm have too long > > been =A0submissive to the restrictions of nineteenth century musi= c.
> > Today we =A0are fighting for their emancipation. Tomorrow, with > > electronic music =A0in our ears, we will hear freedom.
> >
> > - John Cage
> >
> >
> > A wonderful quote from the maestro himself. =A0 In a way, =A0live=
> > looping tools have
> > really done wonders to further this quest for the emancipation he=
> > =A0talks of, don't you think?
> >

>



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

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--90e6ba3fd853d728dc049600172b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 04:32:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB6B23BE8D; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 04:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CF089C3.6000902@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 20:32:03 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 04:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Andy asked: "Isn't Tuareg supposed to be good for beat creation? http://www.brambos.com/archive.html these days it's free" I've used (and love) Tu2 (formerly known as Tuareg) an awful lot in the past. Very cool that it's free now, but I think it was worth it when the pro version was $25. Still couldn't hurt to send Bram some dough for all the time he spent in putting it out to the community. I would say it's very good for beat augmentation but not for beat creation specifically. It's a loop slicer, essentially and it has a lot of very hip randomization algorithms. One trick I love to use with Tuareg is to take a fairly non rhythmic ambient track that has more movement than a mere synth pad and then slice it into a rhythm that may be reiterated by a syncopative hi hat track or rhythmic/melodic ostinato pattern. If you take the resultant Tuareg track, render it and then bring it in under the ostinato part you want to emphasize but so that it is barely audible against your main track it gives 'flava' to the track. For me, this is a really clever way to create hip new feels. One can take fairly avant garde sounding processing but make it so quiet that it is felt more than it is heard overtly. Then it just has a patina of 'the new' without overtly challenging a pop audience. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 09:11:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CB1F3BE8F; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 09:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=+Ws1tLCPKa3FC4mhvca+Vg8bRLFWo9Vz7g4XnFyuRiU=; b=mHTKHdOseaNXJbaFulHz6aF1+HrqxZKXeytY+nUOHC0herxCWgYCd7T8EFZKZFgE0u losSP4sdRAwzP6B9ZDU74DV8p7opNiKQord8IkQWXSE87MuHxkOcsg/phiAp5m3GF8/L wuPuWVyXD5UWo9b4rk3IPtIA4WxuOx+ucxIHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=gZjDbYSlRIohYQEIg7mD4VznQwe7fKJafkLPLVw9VpXyGxyCCydD9iDkRcIW7+bWt4 JXQzd/8ciuPwX7VjcLSGgr3VbOAsjSuGzXVzkCksCtAsLkHKX6E9mrZcvkXas71KQiny 4g9tiFQnXICRFyujWtTVVuLgRes538mO/oPKg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20101127022145.78C626545AE@c-in3ws--03-02.sv2.lotuslive.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:10:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8yIrVdL1_nuvxoye8nDingzQAhk Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8f4ec87b140496053798 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 09:11:12 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8f4ec87b140496053798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was going to say "Silence" : I LOVE this book, I actually carry it with me WHEREVER I go! That and "A Humament" By Tom Philips. They are my random pack.. Unfortunately Silence is looking very raggedy now, it being softback. I have never read the whole book, and on the whole I hate "dip in" books, you know, books that are filled with cool er... sig files, but not much content. Silence is like that however, (I hate for example that someone at my work has bought some posters that are pictures of Andy Warhol (done in a= n Andy Warhol Style of course) and covered in Andy Warhol quotes. But Cages book works, its not just some marketing, buzz word thing. Its mor= e like a Zen thing, big things said in short, almost meaningless ways. I stole the book from my Art college about 25 years ago, mainly for the typographic layout, the way that the "lectures on nothing" are divided into 4 columns makes it possible for you to read verticaly as well as horizontally for a different meaning. Cage was so inspiring to me as a child (ok teenager) , the quote originally quoted by Rick is exactly the sort of thing that stood out to me, as a short, almost aggressive daring thing to say, and as a young and daring teenager, exited me to think that we were living in this exact period when the rules of music were finally (after hundreds of years) falling down, and that Cage suggesting that silence was music, meant that, THAT was where we could all start again, from silence, and build up music again from nothing.= . not from some arbitrary rules from the previous century. I think Art was going through the same revolution at the same time (60's) but doesnt seem to have fared so well, we STILL see blank canvasses, and grand ideas, in sterile galleries, by big, famous has-beens, and the Art World is even harder to break into as a new, unconnected young artist Cage is God Shhhhh... Mark On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Good ol' Google. > > From a book "Silence: Lectures and Writings" by John Cage > page 87: http://tinyurl.com/283p4vq > http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=3Dbooks&linkCode=3Dqs&keywords=3D08= 19560286 > > j > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Mark Showalter > wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> Anyone have an idea of the context of that quote? >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn >> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom >> > Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:54:31 -0800 >> > >> > >> > Wonderful quote there Rick. >> > >> > Thanks for sharing. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Ted >> > >> > On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >> > >> > > Percussion music is revolution. Sound and rhythm have too long >> > > been submissive to the restrictions of nineteenth century music. >> > > Today we are fighting for their emancipation. Tomorrow, with >> > > electronic music in our ears, we will hear freedom. >> > > >> > > - John Cage >> > > >> > > >> > > A wonderful quote from the maestro himself. In a way, live >> > > looping tools have >> > > really done wonders to further this quest for the emancipation he >> > > talks of, don't you think? >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> Mark Showalter >> Minden Jot! >> >> myspace.com/folkstone57 >> http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter >> > http://signatures.mylivesignature.com/54488/99/F2BFFC9AD8D6528EA1E10C104= 3965108.png" >> style=3D"border: 0 !important; background: transparent;"/> >> >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: >> Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com >> > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8f4ec87b140496053798 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was going to say "Silence" :

I LOVE this book, I actuall= y carry it with me WHEREVER=A0 I go!
That and "A Humament" By= Tom Philips. They are my random pack.. Unfortunately Silence is looking ve= ry raggedy now, it being softback.

I have never read the whole book, and on the whole I hate "dip in&= quot; books, you know, books that are filled with cool er... sig files, but= not much content. Silence is like that however, (I hate for example that s= omeone at my work has bought some posters that are pictures of Andy Warhol = (done in an Andy Warhol Style of course) and covered in Andy Warhol quotes.=

But Cages book works, its not just some marketing, buzz word thing. Its= more like a Zen thing, big things said in short, almost meaningless ways.<= br>
I stole the book from my Art college about 25 years ago, mainly for = the typographic layout, the way that the "lectures on nothing" ar= e divided into 4 columns makes it possible for you to read verticaly as wel= l as horizontally for a different meaning.

Cage was so inspiring to me as a child (ok teenager) , the quote origin= ally quoted by Rick is exactly the sort of thing that stood out to me, as a= short, almost aggressive daring thing to say, and as a young and daring te= enager, exited me to think that we were living in this exact period when th= e rules of music were finally (after hundreds of years) falling down, and t= hat Cage suggesting that silence was music, meant that, THAT was where we c= ould all start again, from silence, and build up music again from nothing..= not from some arbitrary rules from the previous century.

I think Art was going through the same revolution at the same time (60&= #39;s) but doesnt seem to have fared so well, we STILL see blank canvasses,= and grand ideas, in sterile galleries, by big, famous has-beens, and the A= rt World is even harder to break into as a new, unconnected young artist
Cage is God

Shhhhh...


Mark





On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
Good ol' Goog= le.

From a book "Silence: Lectures and Writings" by John C= age
page 87: http://ti= nyurl.com/283p4vq
htt= p://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=3Dbooks&linkCode=3Dqs&keywords= =3D0819560286

j

On Fri, No= v 26, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Mark Showalter <folkstone57@operamail.com> wrote:
Hello All,

Anyone have an idea of the context of that quote?

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:54:31 -0800
>
>
> Wonderful quote there Rick.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> Best,
>
> Ted
>
> On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
> > Percussion music is revolution. Sound and rhythm have too long > > been =A0submissive to the restrictions of nineteenth century musi= c.
> > Today we =A0are fighting for their emancipation. Tomorrow, with > > electronic music =A0in our ears, we will hear freedom.
> >
> > - John Cage
> >
> >
> > A wonderful quote from the maestro himself. =A0 In a way, =A0live=
> > looping tools have
> > really done wonders to further this quest for the emancipation he=
> > =A0talks of, don't you think?
> >

>



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/fo= lkstone57
http:= //www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter
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--90e6ba6e8f4ec87b140496053798-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 10:24:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8617A3BE8E; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:24:40 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01CB8E25.AF1E3E00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcuN3F9nyzGBflfnQIK1AhWfytt2fwAQMe1w In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:24:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01CB8E25.AF1E3E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like some of the grooves that Steinberg Grooveagent creates ... and it plays with some variety. But it is easy to crash Bidule with it, unfortunately -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01CB8E25.AF1E3E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I like some of the grooves = that Steinberg=20 Grooveagent creates ... and it plays with some variety. But it is easy = to crash=20 Bidule with it, unfortunately
 
-Michael
 
------=_NextPart_000_005D_01CB8E25.AF1E3E00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 10:38:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8E323BE90; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r146o3r2xawRfQ0mOP8Iy8YIHF1KJ+hKvf3gunvK2wQ=; b=IiBZC/4JoHeXq8ti64aX4pvYTUHT8Gl3iFOb8N2gSdIjXrZLOQiiihEQ30n5S5rrHF MYmXEJixbIO+aMSPocX04r3MMqBM0+G95v1Vpn9qZFB2rrVIkmVBJBIXJbU0LDw7saHi nbIaoFr2gARH1dUNq/BBtzPJ95DKCB9dHtUpM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cUwWEKA9AlAqh0bWDBSXyLZYvVcyZUfMPwhZ7zY/Ru70MA6HIi7gsOkE3IsqdzbPHP iO7Sfl1U+hP8xDsDMFZOyM/W1WUdBkS3yBT0M2J2ooFWMrKKIrTCbnpiWEbIFIJoSzIj gvr4U1LD8qAL+mzGgCm3uvdFLXHUWL+H1qnlI= Message-ID: <4CF0DFC2.60602@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:38:58 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters schrieb: > I like some of the grooves that Steinberg Grooveagent creates ... and > it plays with some variety. But it is easy to crash Bidule with it, > unfortunately Speaking of Steinberg, there's a VST plugin called "Loop Mash" in Cubase 5, but I have to admit I didn't play much with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdrPLt_qlEM Anyone tried this plugin with success? -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 14:26:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACBA63BE91; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:26:37 UTC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-IP: 65.188.164.221 User-Agent: Web-Based Email 5.2.39 Message-Id: <20101127071956.95a0a121071e8df19db85607a1a5a351.1f0b57eb9e.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Ace Eno Doc on the iplayer Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 07:19:56 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:26:37 +0000 (UTC)
I get "not avalible in your area"? I'd like to see the vid..any s= uggestions? I'm in the us.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Ace Eno Doc on the iplayer
From: Matt Stevens <= mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:09 am
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/epis= ode/b00q9xqm/Brian_Eno_Hits_Classics_and_Tracks/
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 15:43:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69B183BE86; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 15:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 618122.97001.bm@omp1004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=g5wibZCBbBqv7NiPzouZz/OUhuF9/iP/UNa/IkoyTR+c1fBeM90WSrzpEgjMbUm4SW3w5GGDXfUs8AQTTS5Pcq90P2Hcwi3jpj1yRZXTYhD+IwOc7D6z0Mm7m86iK0bSoK2kc3HckAls9zLyMNFG/OTmshS9ZIwkRd8GmgUmo4U= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1290872601; bh=Uasz3KDAvunfGrPIQloyAdcXhotcy8DJRyWn2aNyhgM=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=Qk9n2UTUPOKGIXEfr8SdH9pqVo7PaRfNYlj3AKYfJLG5mX81/jZ4AOpyE2bHNpXDnyILPhUrjb034Ged/PS4+4K8UdN3ppM6SX0//AQE5GdTEarCDyk+ULWvY4UdPbtoZ0MhHlUCd1/+QL5p+tZGv/gJghj6m0dSGIXmyRVvluU= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: XIKg0lgVM1nAjoF4YtdMOmMtIHZyH16wzf.hZz0lOHB5UHy glNjdbM.RO0WU8im847JfCKq3gdChDUTaE4fyh6xJhKueSuuI.v9PgeAdHm9 lG5vPxN3Ogmk9RYLm4SPjr_sKdqNghfe5FjwXmXdyI7_pVRnWwblrzBYydQa D2ZBFQY_Yq4UJFX96w2M0ldW1xI5sc.wZMsED._zysCMgmJVp0XLe.FgOwQX rabthicHavJ848J1PKoiKeFd9_HsNGB1zXQkNhpqg2Hki0VXBL4quJ1E9w.h PTqDCdvwbgHNwyNjHYc4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20101127071956.95a0a121071e8df19db85607a1a5a351.1f0b57eb9e.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> References: <20101127071956.95a0a121071e8df19db85607a1a5a351.1f0b57eb9e.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--967217567 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Ace Eno Doc on the iplayer Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 15:43:14 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 15:43:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9--967217567 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I think the i player is UK only :( Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 27 Nov 2010, at 14:19, wrote: > I get "not avalible in your area"? I'd like to see the vid..any > suggestions? I'm in the us. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Ace Eno Doc on the iplayer > From: Matt Stevens > Date: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:09 am > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00q9xqm/ > Brian_Eno_Hits_Classics_and_Tracks/ > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > --Apple-Mail-9--967217567 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII I think the i player is UK only :(

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On 27 Nov 2010, = at 14:19, <fh@flatheadband.com> <fh@flatheadband.com> = wrote:

I get "not avalible in your area"? I'd like to see = the vid..any suggestions? I'm in the us.

-------- = Original Message --------
Subject: Ace Eno Doc on the iplayer
= From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com>
Date: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:09 am
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00q9xqm/Brian_Eno_H= its_Classics_and_Tracks/ =

= --Apple-Mail-9--967217567-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 16:40:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BACAC3BE87; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:40:11 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_01bdc6bb-6196-47ea-a685-8595646ac621_" X-Originating-IP: [24.21.162.195] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 08:35:09 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20101127022145.78C626545AE@c-in3ws--03-02.sv2.lotuslive.com> , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Nov 2010 16:35:09.0722 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E8407A0:01CB8E51] Resent-Message-ID: <5V2CID.A.tWG.rRT8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:40:11 +0000 (UTC) --_01bdc6bb-6196-47ea-a685-8595646ac621_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cage is not God --He is a Bhodisattva. The "dip in" quality of the book---Isn't that what he was all about? Pick a= place and begin! I remember people dissing Cage back in the day as silly. = --pointing out 4'33" as the ultimate in lazy art=2C but as I've matured I h= ave come to love his works and his thinking. I was at the Portland Art muse= um just yesterday and they had a book of his prints in the gift shop --His = visual art is as profound as his composition. Thanks for the quote=2C Rick! From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Sat=2C 27 Nov 2010 10:10:41 +0100 Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I was going to say "Silence" : I LOVE this book=2C I actually carry it with me WHEREVER I go!=20 That and "A Humament" By Tom Philips. They are my random pack.. Unfortunate= ly Silence is looking very raggedy now=2C it being softback. I have never read the whole book=2C and on the whole I hate "dip in" books= =2C you know=2C books that are filled with cool er... sig files=2C but not = much content. Silence is like that however=2C (I hate for example that some= one at my work has bought some posters that are pictures of Andy Warhol (do= ne in an Andy Warhol Style of course) and covered in Andy Warhol quotes. But Cages book works=2C its not just some marketing=2C buzz word thing. Its= more like a Zen thing=2C big things said in short=2C almost meaningless wa= ys. I stole the book from my Art college about 25 years ago=2C mainly for the t= ypographic layout=2C the way that the "lectures on nothing" are divided int= o 4 columns makes it possible for you to read verticaly as well as horizont= ally for a different meaning. Cage was so inspiring to me as a child (ok teenager) =2C the quote original= ly quoted by Rick is exactly the sort of thing that stood out to me=2C as a= short=2C almost aggressive daring thing to say=2C and as a young and darin= g teenager=2C exited me to think that we were living in this exact period w= hen the rules of music were finally (after hundreds of years) falling down= =2C and that Cage suggesting that silence was music=2C meant that=2C THAT w= as where we could all start again=2C from silence=2C and build up music aga= in from nothing.. not from some arbitrary rules from the previous century. I think Art was going through the same revolution at the same time (60's) b= ut doesnt seem to have fared so well=2C we STILL see blank canvasses=2C and= grand ideas=2C in sterile galleries=2C by big=2C famous has-beens=2C and t= he Art World is even harder to break into as a new=2C unconnected young art= ist Cage is God Shhhhh... Mark On Sat=2C Nov 27=2C 2010 at 4:04 AM=2C Jeff Duke wrot= e: Good ol' Google. >From a book "Silence: Lectures and Writings" by John Cage page 87: http://tinyurl.com/283p4vq http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=3Dbooks&linkCode=3Dqs&keywords=3D0819= 560286 j On Fri=2C Nov 26=2C 2010 at 9:21 PM=2C Mark Showalter wrote: Hello All=2C Anyone have an idea of the context of that quote? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom > Date: Fri=2C 26 Nov 2010 11:54:31 -0800 > > > Wonderful quote there Rick. > > Thanks for sharing. > > Best=2C > > Ted > > On Nov 26=2C 2010=2C at 11:48 AM=2C Rick Walker wrote: > > > Percussion music is revolution. Sound and rhythm have too long > > been submissive to the restrictions of nineteenth century music. > > Today we are fighting for their emancipation. Tomorrow=2C with > > electronic music in our ears=2C we will hear freedom. > > > > - John Cage > > > > > > A wonderful quote from the maestro himself. In a way=2C live > > looping tools have > > really done wonders to further this quest for the emancipation he > > talks of=2C don't you think? > > > Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster=2C safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no = --_01bdc6bb-6196-47ea-a685-8595646ac621_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cage is not God --He is a Bhodisattva.
The "dip in" quality of the book-= --Isn't that what he was all about? Pick a place and begin! I remember peop= le dissing Cage back in the day as silly. --pointing out 4'33" as the ultim= ate in lazy art=2C but as I've matured I have come to love his works and hi= s thinking. I was at the Portland Art museum just yesterday and they had a = book of his prints in the gift shop --His visual art is as profound as his = composition.
Thanks for the quote=2C Rick!

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Sat=2C 27 Nov 2010 10:10:41 +0100Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com

I was going to say "Silence" :

I LOVE this book=2C= I actually carry it with me WHEREVER =3B I go!
That and "A Humamen= t" By Tom Philips. They are my random pack.. Unfortunately Silence is looki= ng very raggedy now=2C it being softback.

I have never read the whole book=2C and on the whole I hate "dip in" bo= oks=2C you know=2C books that are filled with cool er... sig files=2C but n= ot much content. Silence is like that however=2C (I hate for example that s= omeone at my work has bought some posters that are pictures of Andy Warhol = (done in an Andy Warhol Style of course) and covered in Andy Warhol quotes.=

But Cages book works=2C its not just some marketing=2C buzz word thing.= Its more like a Zen thing=2C big things said in short=2C almost meaningles= s ways.

I stole the book from my Art college about 25 years ago=2C m= ainly for the typographic layout=2C the way that the "lectures on nothing" = are divided into 4 columns makes it possible for you to read verticaly as w= ell as horizontally for a different meaning.

Cage was so inspiring to me as a child (ok teenager) =2C the quote orig= inally quoted by Rick is exactly the sort of thing that stood out to me=2C = as a short=2C almost aggressive daring thing to say=2C and as a young and d= aring teenager=2C exited me to think that we were living in this exact peri= od when the rules of music were finally (after hundreds of years) falling d= own=2C and that Cage suggesting that silence was music=2C meant that=2C THA= T was where we could all start again=2C from silence=2C and build up music = again from nothing.. not from some arbitrary rules from the previous centur= y.

I think Art was going through the same revolution at the same time (60'= s) but doesnt seem to have fared so well=2C we STILL see blank canvasses=2C= and grand ideas=2C in sterile galleries=2C by big=2C famous has-beens=2C a= nd the Art World is even harder to break into as a new=2C unconnected young= artist

Cage is God

Shhhhh...


Mark





On Sat=2C Nov 27=2C 2010 at 4:04 AM=2C Jeff Duke= <=3Bjeffloops@g= mail.com>=3B wrote:
Good ol= ' Google.

From a book "Silence: Lectures and Writings" by John Cage<= br> page 87: http://ti= nyurl.com/283p4vq
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=3Dbooks&=3BlinkCode=3Dqs&=3Bke= ywords=3D0819560286

j

On F= ri=2C Nov 26=2C 2010 at 9:21 PM=2C Mark Showalter <=3B<= a href=3D"mailto:folkstone57@operamail.com">folkstone57@operamail.com&g= t=3B wrote:
Hello All=2C

Anyone have an idea of the context of that quote?

>=3B ----- Original Message -----
>=3B From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn <=3Btedkillian@charter.net>=3B
>=3B To: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom
>=3B Date: Fri=2C 26 Nov 2010 11:54:31 -0800
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Wonderful quote there Rick.
>=3B
>=3B Thanks for sharing.
>=3B
>=3B Best=2C
>=3B
>=3B Ted
>=3B
>=3B On Nov 26=2C 2010=2C at 11:48 AM=2C Rick Walker wrote:
>=3B
>=3B >=3B Percussion music is revolution. Sound and rhythm have too lon= g
>=3B >=3B been  =3Bsubmissive to the restrictions of nineteenth cen= tury music.
>=3B >=3B Today we  =3Bare fighting for their emancipation. Tomorro= w=2C with
>=3B >=3B electronic music  =3Bin our ears=2C we will hear freedom.=
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B - John Cage
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B A wonderful quote from the maestro himself.  =3B In a way= =2C  =3Blive
>=3B >=3B looping tools have
>=3B >=3B really done wonders to further this quest for the emancipatio= n he
>=3B >=3B  =3Btalks of=2C don't you think?
>=3B >=3B

>=3B



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/fo= lkstone57
http:= //www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter
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= --_01bdc6bb-6196-47ea-a685-8595646ac621_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 19:49:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67D583BE8B; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CF160C8.9000906@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:49:28 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Duke CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <81hEIC.A.t3.RDW8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:49:37 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > From a book "Silence: Lectures and Writings" by John Cage > page 87: http://tinyurl.com/283p4vq > http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=books&linkCode=qs&keywords=0819560286 > I have to chime in proudly and say that I have a first edition copy of that amazing book, signed by Cage himself for me when I got a chance to meet and talk to him briefly in the early 70's at UCSC when he came to lecture. His zen stories about mushroom hunting are worth the price of admission. They led me to the amazing book of Zen stories called Zen Bones, Zen Flesh. The 100 Zen Stories in that three in one book are amongst the best things I ever read. They all, to me, relate directly to music. While we are at it, when I have a student who is really special and finally gets to that point where they fall in love with (or first learn to wrestle with) the notion of practicing a simple thing over and over again, I always buy them a copy of Suzuki's Zen Mind, Beginners Mind. This is not D.T. Suzuki, the popularizer of Zen in the witness, but the Suzuki who ran the Zen Center in San Francisco for many years. He refused to write a book so his students finally transcribed a talk he once gave on how to meditate. If you take the word 'zazen' (the meditative practise of following one's breath in and out used in Zen meditation) and substitute the word 'practise' (as in musical practise) it is the best book ever written, imho, on how to successfully practise, especially vis a viz the minds tendency to wander. Absolutely a desert island book for musicians, I think. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 27 20:04:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 800A53BE8D; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CF1642F.5040803@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 12:03:59 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rainer Straschill , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: Laptops, Drum Loops, etc. References: <4CF0DFC2.60602@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4CF0DFC2.60602@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2rLio.A.CLB.3QW8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Rainer asked about 'Loop Mash' VST inside of Cubase > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdrPLt_qlEM > > Anyone tried this plugin with success? 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Sat, 27 Nov 2010 23:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Nm1NTAkOzCWGmALWw2jD9n++CjHGN2sE073pexaHMSc=; b=L/mmL3el+hvlfnWDfupOjrGq1Es6zLv9QSnnubkGTdVOXlGqXIIdZBV09HvrY0ivdR 4t7bMdBHKoZffESccyebP+Vh0fCczIpptHcoJpsH61Cj6RBPLFXEvvIPbG0LXTHG3lfd KBfggqR/juEvRLm2v4MPZAjDe802ueZfRTH6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZEzZ2mJrR2pY7XTTKpZJcI8z2jZlzEwqjxFWW4pe5w4obvIbTE6BKT3Cw5xa2F7I0J 5TkhMBwTamLW6tuAWfC8DUC1yecSWiImCzii/3ra4BFzyLcOdayWwdBngtHki02yyEE6 wLEFfAtoA2ps1ddNbtpY8PJ7cB7MeJS8Q6wBI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 18:30:32 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Digital Audio Interface From: Jeffery Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ca9f0a60a760496113942 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 23:30:33 +0000 (UTC) --0015175ca9f0a60a760496113942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Greetings all! I'm hoping someone might be able to help me in this technical question. I presently have a MOTU 896HD firewire interface which I use for podcasting. It works great because I can record off of the ASIO while I set the output to the main mix, in order to send to Skype and record it at the same time. This allows me to talk to people on Skype conference, play music for them, and record it all at the same time. (Podcasting) The trouble I'm having is the MOTU unit is dying I believe as it periodically freaks out with lots of static across all of the output channels as well as the odd input channel. I've attempted multiple different ways to rewire including unplugging everything and setting it aside, to no avail. So I decided to pick up a new unit, a M-Audio Fast Track Ultra, which would be great, except in the Windows driver assignment, I don't have the option to pick which channel/mix to assign, it's just, "Output" or "Input". The MOTU has all of the channels broken out along with the Mix for playback. Given this information, does anyone have a suggestion for a good unit with at least 4 inputs/outputs? The M-Audio does everything except allow me to play sound from the computer back through to Skype. I suspect I could potentially bring in another computer, but I'm afraid of the cost, and the introduction of spurious noise that might bring. Let me know if you need further information from me! -Jeff Duke Jr. --0015175ca9f0a60a760496113942 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings all! =A0I'm hoping someone might be able to help me in this t= echnical question.

I presently have a MOTU 896HD firewir= e interface which I use for podcasting. =A0It works great because I can rec= ord off of the ASIO while I set the output to the main mix, in order to sen= d to Skype and record it at the same time.

This allows me to talk to people on Skype conference, p= lay music for them, and record it all at the same time. =A0(Podcasting)

The trouble I'm having is the MOTU unit is dying = I believe as it periodically freaks out with lots of static across all of t= he output channels as well as the odd input channel. =A0I've attempted = multiple different ways to rewire including unplugging everything and setti= ng it aside, to no avail.

So I decided to pick up a new unit, a M-Audio Fast Trac= k Ultra, which would be great, except in the Windows driver assignment, I d= on't have the option to pick which channel/mix to assign, it's just= , "Output" or "Input". =A0The MOTU has all of the chann= els broken out along with the Mix for playback.

Given this information, does anyone have a suggestion f= or a good unit with at least 4 inputs/outputs? =A0The M-Audio does everythi= ng except allow me to play sound from the computer back through to Skype. = =A0I suspect I could potentially bring in another computer, but I'm afr= aid of the cost, and the introduction of spurious noise that might bring.

Let me know if you need further information from me!

-Jeff Duke Jr.
--0015175ca9f0a60a760496113942-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 01:34:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 465563BE88; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1291 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:34:53 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:13:22 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: Digital Audio Interface In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20101128011321.85A3E247EC@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_dEVjC.A.MCH.-Gb8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Hey jeff, Did you try contacting MOTU? I have the same 896HD and was having trouble last year. After I contacted them I sent the unit in and paid $100.00 and they turned around and sent me a reconditioned one, I had it within two weeks which is amazingly quick for here in Canada dealing with a company in the US. Paul At 06:30 PM 11/27/2010, you wrote: >Greetings all! I'm hoping someone might be able to help me in this >technical question. > >I presently have a MOTU 896HD firewire interface which I use for >podcasting. It works great because I can record off of the ASIO >while I set the output to the main mix, in order to send to Skype >and record it at the same time. > >This allows me to talk to people on Skype conference, play music for >them, and record it all at the same time. (Podcasting) > >The trouble I'm having is the MOTU unit is dying I believe as it >periodically freaks out with lots of static across all of the output >channels as well as the odd input channel. I've attempted multiple >different ways to rewire including unplugging everything and setting >it aside, to no avail. > >So I decided to pick up a new unit, a M-Audio Fast Track Ultra, >which would be great, except in the Windows driver assignment, I >don't have the option to pick which channel/mix to assign, it's >just, "Output" or "Input". The MOTU has all of the channels broken >out along with the Mix for playback. > >Given this information, does anyone have a suggestion for a good >unit with at least 4 inputs/outputs? The M-Audio does everything >except allow me to play sound from the computer back through to >Skype. I suspect I could potentially bring in another computer, but >I'm afraid of the cost, and the introduction of spurious noise that >might bring. > >Let me know if you need further information from me! > >-Jeff Duke Jr. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 01:45:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5D973BE8C; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:45:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4vzaOn3XcKJOVgCQQv5jA8Hwd7M7im2vEJHqYtpSa2k=; b=o/HyE0dX4XEMOIpDoVCwUVPvOSbYT7JLlfQYdUjG/bDkl+Vs8vThaf7DW4COzjWjhB 35EtWRgkj/VRSNzzYL5HT+m2uwI3Uvoyjo+K862miBB0E95Ii36xIjjLaACTcQ87tXRU YMHrkf9dS4S9KPhEGcRSvxDduVGn83/oJeTTI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HEsneU64OtLjf+4cJrwrmXZA2i9ebbbkY0+u8WzSWgxp184lfc6si6Ef8UKeR5upDh aCRjTiwpn823YODnjDxMQB02o6WV3z8DFKTFbJqPL06bKYJfQkEK4PRI36GNG9kbVOVE Kluj3NQH3PntpJmtSB9/vphAHXQoGV6d3fKSM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:45:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: iRig or Peavey From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b00094225c0496131ab9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:45:02 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b00094225c0496131ab9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody tried the audio interfaces such as the iRig or Peavey AmpKit LInk a= s well as Amplitude app for iPhone/iTouch? Wondering about one for recording. I have used the iTouch to feed samples into NinJam. Saw couple of folks Randolf and Massimo use the iPhone for performance tools at Y2k as well as Eric use an iPad with a controller app. Thx Jim --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001636c5b00094225c0496131ab9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody tried the audio interfaces such as the iRig or Peavey AmpKit LInk a= s well as Amplitude app for iPhone/iTouch?=A0 Wondering about one for recor= ding.=A0 I have used the iTouch to feed samples into NinJam.=A0 Saw couple = of folks Randolf and Massimo use the iPhone for performance tools at Y2k as= well as Eric use an iPad with a controller app.

Thx

Jim

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from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.c= om.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
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--001636c5b00094225c0496131ab9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 04:07:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA23D3BE8B; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CF1D585.6020708@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:07:33 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy devros CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Jeremy devros wrote: > "......The "dip in" quality of the book---Isn't that what he was all > about? Pick a place and begin! I remember people dissing Cage back in > the day as silly. --pointing out 4'33" as the ultimate in lazy art, > but as I've matured I have come to love his works and his thinking...." Cage to me is not unlike Eno in that they are true visionaries who have helped change the musical world irrevocably......they are both very intellectual and quite brilliant theoreticians..... and , frankly, I find most of both of there musics not as intriguing as their theories (with great exceptions like Cage's music for prepared piano and toy piano and Eno's ambient work with Fripp, most notably 'Evening Star' and his early forays into pop, "Another Green World and Before and After Science). The brilliance of 4'33" is that Cage is asking the listener to listen to the entire world as potential musical sources. The audiences reactions, coughs, chair fidgeting, etc. IS the music in 4'33". I'm not sure where the source but I've oftened quote Cages' definition of music. He said, "Music is Organized Sound". He completely anticipated the revolution in sound that was coming with the advent of cheap sampling and looping. Like Eno, I think we all owe him a pretty large debt (not that there aren't others who also deserve this praise). I once knocked a large doctors bag full of percussion instruments over in my hurry to get out of the room and turn the digital recorder off (which , at this early time, was in another room so that it's own noise wouldn't get into the recording I was making). Going back into my computer's digital audio editor (Sonic Foundry's Sound Forge at the time) I started goofing around with merely finding different loop lengths and randomly moving it around to all the different places in the long spill of the instruments. I sped these loops up and down and re-pitched them as well. It was beautiful how many good percussion loops I got out of this process especially since I went back and recreated the 'accident' several times on purpose afterwords. Cage was entirely responsible for me even thinking in this way. To this day when my wife is micro edting tracks in her own recording I always ask her to make little sound files of the snippets that she hacks off her edited parts and put them in a separate folder which she saves for me. I love going to that folder for random bits of musical 'noise'. Yeah, thanks a lot John Cage!!!! rick walker "...I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours..." ------Bob Dylan > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 05:06:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBE033BE8B; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LBW93Ea2wb0v0m4ehsAWYD3sq+NaJu5TVVGIdRWHaBs=; b=t/iJdPJ9DiiNgVM4vfcrnac6dlFKXwmT7DVuZP9V02IRvsv8J4tDHXAwCDhDQkkQYz eW/TxqZKcAAHJrB2CUMT/mZn07QxXKMYQY+GPpbi1+b7XaVGqtlK8sFy+bUrvrxuT7Rp 8V5aBftM70+sDoIAau/ZNoTLVbik3OgsDF848= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=X2E2Lr771KmDXz3VNYSxef/EhAHrTvodM6KLKJjYCrolOC2CWVXaoJNrDkAajRuydi V3cdYoM3d6TjU2YhOML7DGEzO+qSHASmSUselLhISASCteMhsSX00+d4L0grs/FYuVC3 BwEeZNMih1yeg2pYQUXuLJDyhAXrz88G9YoC4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 23:06:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: bill frisell: the guitar artistry of....(on youtube.com) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d6846fd6dc049615ead9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:06:19 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0d6846fd6dc049615ead9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 not sure if anyone saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6mwuQM5dYA&feature=related saw it posted on TGP...the vid in 5 parts of the "guitar artistry of bill frisell" always meant to get it, but never did... at 3:00 he talks about his effects (the section of him demoing his RAT is most cool!) and at about 6:20 he demos the digitech 8 sec delay/sampler. wow his stuff w/ this is cool to see!!!! not sure how old this is, from the 90s, he's using his klein electric in it. most cool, enjoy... s--- --000e0ce0d6846fd6dc049615ead9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
not sure if anyone saw this:
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saw it posted on TGP...the vid in 5 parts of the "guitar artistry= of bill frisell"
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always meant to get it, but never did...
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at 3:00 he talks about his effects (the section of him demoing his RAT= is most cool!)
and at about 6:20 he demos the digitech 8 sec delay/sampler. wow his s= tuff w/ this is cool to see!!!!
=A0
not sure how old this is, from the 90s, he's using his klein elect= ric in it. most cool, enjoy...
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--000e0ce0d6846fd6dc049615ead9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 05:20:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C622F3BE8B; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=x/7fIoRQZZwLGA1e/Wk4G3erGLnr4AdaZPve7v3v3zo=; b=W8Vc127R7DKqrfO+pae/YZNxCAqbzeBxSz3qVRfuk5SQ+G8j7LzKm7qY1sojI8ifME QCZF3WzZ2vthEQo6aV8cOyP9Unq6AMRDaxKn4NZrQOitVx8LFfQQh/Q/ewHbRHy/jett 73/dbu92qq64hWQJFPwXGEx++Vkvr7RM7SE7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a/J1K0nUb5uTV6LN6jR238p7eSA04B4Fs8m0XRAl4NiJA5CBa3ziN88uWASLawsZiX MFapESqZtdXwkoUB7OBm4w2PyXSEywz5M2gi+gs7D/707mLZ+hOsCENJZLiZTy0xh4uH GLXKwwgXgxikxvlnuhkIFJznRkVWc/NgO/cUw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 00:20:15 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bill frisell: the guitar artistry of....(on youtube.com) From: Jeffrey Collins To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6153fa5168600496161c18 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:20:16 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6153fa5168600496161c18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Right on Scott. Thanks for finding this and sharing it with us. I need to go buy the DVD as I tossed out my VHS copy and didn't back up the digital version of it I had made. Whoops. Jeffrey On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Scott Hansen wrote: > not sure if anyone saw this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6mwuQM5dYA&feature=related > > saw it posted on TGP...the vid in 5 parts of the "guitar artistry of bill > frisell" > > always meant to get it, but never did... > > at 3:00 he talks about his effects (the section of him demoing his RAT is > most cool!) > and at about 6:20 he demos the digitech 8 sec delay/sampler. wow his stuff > w/ this is cool to see!!!! > > not sure how old this is, from the 90s, he's using his klein electric in > it. most cool, enjoy... > s--- > --90e6ba6153fa5168600496161c18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right on Scott. Thanks for finding this and sharing it with us. I need to g= o buy the DVD as I tossed out my VHS copy and didn't back up the digita= l version of it I had made. Whoops.

Jeffrey

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote= :
not sure if anyone saw this:
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saw it posted on TGP...the vid in 5 parts of the "guitar artistry= of bill frisell"
=A0
always meant to get it, but never did...
=A0
at 3:00 he talks about his effects (the section of him demoing his RAT= is most cool!)
and at about 6:20 he demos the digitech 8 sec delay/sampler. wow his s= tuff w/ this is cool to see!!!!
=A0
not sure how old this is, from the 90s, he's using his klein elect= ric in it. most cool, enjoy...
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--90e6ba6153fa5168600496161c18-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 06:30:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC77F3BE81; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 06:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=NuIjwrNfjUana2gSyjy8LENzawByzCb83AAhoQ06VvZLHPQfSxu9ZKbb8hzkjrPp; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <28431447.1290925806199.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 22:30:06 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: bill frisell: the guitar artistry of....(on youtube.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48e2dbef5bf515a7284837e9d316edaff37ef9f80aaf77e5a4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.37 Resent-Message-ID: <0ZzJZD.A.yhE.ubf8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 06:30:06 +0000 (UTC) yess-thanks for finding this gem...i too no longer have my vhs copy-but-thi= s will do for now. i do use my pds 8000 daily and my rat-other than that i = dont think our music has much in common-ymmv http://stanosaur.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Collins=20 Sent: Nov 27, 2010 9:20 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: bill frisell: the guitar artistry of....(on youtube.com) Right on Scott. Thanks for finding this and sharing it with us. I need to g= o buy the DVD as I tossed out my VHS copy and didn't back up the digital ve= rsion of it I had made. Whoops. Jeffrey On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Scott Hansen wrote= : not sure if anyone saw this: =C2=A0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW6mwuQM5dYA&feature=3Drelated =C2=A0 saw it posted on TGP...the vid in 5 parts of the "guitar artistry of bill f= risell" =C2=A0 always meant to get it, but never did... =C2=A0 at 3:00 he talks about his effects (the section of him demoing his RAT is m= ost cool!)=20 and at about 6:20 he demos the digitech 8 sec delay/sampler. wow his stuff = w/ this is cool to see!!!! =C2=A0 not sure how old this is, from the 90s, he's using his klein electric in it= . most cool, enjoy... s--- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 07:51:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23FE23BE8A; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 07:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1290930694; bh=470OmVdY7XlD4sONMYdVMo2xDQ9/VLAfEt3V0VE890I=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4fnC78x+Q/HKNndR6QKs0f7qa0gbFIlX/X85BN4JaKkM4Gbwr7MMJLBawcuFD5q+PtyRf90Z8EeHRKUrWHchMbBZ+u9RPeBH8BfIeNHHWwDw6daC1mAN3k/qH06Q0/HJgL9dczBSDtZAZdcQ8MyHIXqCj7yMe686Usn9JJKMBNQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6a+je7frQnVK2V2aK9UQmKk9NYnYBmCHEFZFUXLGHnZH+ErVZoR1IyTCp6OsKQpOMP5jX5qRtZ8b0tCb/U9hbIn6YVF+vStVF0ReVXdRosUlabft8fGo4YjxKZ+7bY8ktiSZln8aIN+vw4exVBViHH80tQNM9vrmf+wNZR4B688=; Message-ID: <909534.13174.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5GlUi.oVM1lzvjVuq.1GxdhOrCcZVvI_Hvzjbv.2xjwRlEM WXstCkw5oYWQb0llTQfKchJfFrknm7rY6FV9.1T0Nuy1OqwdJBW3owE18u32 fB_6efZNzIq_28Wp4QFHEVJAcK03TLg9AxlsJ9YKJ1132.bw8DK3xOpKZTsF BW60FRE7mYlhGzecry8jIUv2cAHrnAfEJ0r9Qm1iR7pajBvZLmm6q7eeVds5 X_UGxzefcMwmN0.BfFguNBYQNbWUn01J_E48oiwQ8zxOiFX_4fI6UWiWku4Z 7ag60NT8uNuvsbfRwnh6wyl0lNvGAap0MXw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 23:51:34 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Digital Audio Interface To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1179136654-1290930694=:13174" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 07:51:36 +0000 (UTC) --0-1179136654-1290930694=:13174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hello, i don't know if it will do the podcasting, but this one has a lot of routing options and this is what i would buy if I were looking at a new interface http://www.tcelectronic.com/StudioKonnekt48.asp Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: Jeffery Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:30:32 AM Subject: Digital Audio Interface Greetings all! I'm hoping someone might be able to help me in this technical question. I presently have a MOTU 896HD firewire interface which I use for podcasting. It works great because I can record off of the ASIO while I set the output to the main mix, in order to send to Skype and record it at the same time. This allows me to talk to people on Skype conference, play music for them, and record it all at the same time. (Podcasting) The trouble I'm having is the MOTU unit is dying I believe as it periodically freaks out with lots of static across all of the output channels as well as the odd input channel. I've attempted multiple different ways to rewire including unplugging everything and setting it aside, to no avail. So I decided to pick up a new unit, a M-Audio Fast Track Ultra, which would be great, except in the Windows driver assignment, I don't have the option to pick which channel/mix to assign, it's just, "Output" or "Input". The MOTU has all of the channels broken out along with the Mix for playback. Given this information, does anyone have a suggestion for a good unit with at least 4 inputs/outputs? The M-Audio does everything except allow me to play sound from the computer back through to Skype. I suspect I could potentially bring in another computer, but I'm afraid of the cost, and the introduction of spurious noise that might bring. Let me know if you need further information from me! -Jeff Duke Jr. --0-1179136654-1290930694=:13174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hello,

i don't know if it will do the podcasting, but this one has a lot of routing options and this is what i would buy if I were looking at a new interface


Antony Hequet

From: Jeffery Duke <duke.jeff@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:30:32 AM
Subject: Digital Audio Interface

Greetings all!  I'm hoping someone might be able to help me in this technical question.

I presently have a MOTU 896HD firewire interface which I use for podcasting.  It works great because I can record off of the ASIO while I set the output to the main mix, in order to send to Skype and record it at the same time.

This allows me to talk to people on Skype conference, play music for them, and record it all at the same time.  (Podcasting)

The trouble I'm having is the MOTU unit is dying I believe as it periodically freaks out with lots of static across all of the output channels as well as the odd input channel.  I've attempted multiple different ways to rewire including unplugging everything and setting it aside, to no avail.

So I decided to pick up a new unit, a M-Audio Fast Track Ultra, which would be great, except in the Windows driver assignment, I don't have the option to pick which channel/mix to assign, it's just, "Output" or "Input".  The MOTU has all of the channels broken out along with the Mix for playback.

Given this information, does anyone have a suggestion for a good unit with at least 4 inputs/outputs?  The M-Audio does everything except allow me to play sound from the computer back through to Skype.  I suspect I could potentially bring in another computer, but I'm afraid of the cost, and the introduction of spurious noise that might bring.

Let me know if you need further information from me!

-Jeff Duke Jr.

--0-1179136654-1290930694=:13174-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 08:21:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7BC13BE88; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 861 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:21:45 UTC X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at well.com From: Chris Muir Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Octratrack Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 00:06:59 -0800 Message-Id: <2BA35357-AD90-42D9-83AC-CA71057E0969@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <6if1TB.A.JoG.ZEh8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone been following the information being released about the = Elektron Octatrack?=20 http://www.elektron.se/products/octatrack?section=3Doverview&page=3D1 While it will ship with stereo delays with repeat functionality, they = also say that "The Octatrack will feature special machines for recording = audio from the four external inputs. These machines can be used as = strange effect devices, intricate loopers or as simple audio recorders. = They will allow for quick assembling of audio structures." The use of = future tense in this makes me think that the loopers aren't going to be = in the first release of software, but I think the machine has potential.=20= - C Chris Muir | "There are many futures and only one = status quo. cbm@well.com | This is why conservatives mostly agree, http://www.xfade.com | and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 09:29:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C56E23BE8D; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 09:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Uut1H6HY9cYSxdAePHwgVYbYYFAMf6MUYYzSNfgR1v4=; b=no0KYFf1j7udO2dtRHsPA+dfA48+HESRQLmK4l7T4etnDPofnbSdlsMch4yGr9OxpF 7ocjLHAPom4L97q/DE8sRmoTlic8mMgCsl/75+vOYaDxrJqg5HqKIUk2zEDyuYdEyET3 1HAfL2Z/MzsiRnVYMDk1UNJgCyFYvycUFUWLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=w3y8jvd++phZLuAlRJLAcs62jAMsf00JAw01EJpQbxRs3fUe54pz+i8BpKmggYkV3V y7Z6eJKJqhQDS8FU4n8W36m4p5znr4IXoWWYPX/7Fsoa0PCwzcluzuqOrqrjWk8wpqb8 NlkPo7WmNKsqBhWiB9KBX2YUAqwTvXMvQ1U8A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:29:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: best software strings From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175def84c2099c04961996d2 Resent-Message-ID: <-nXc0B.A.02H.rDi8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 09:29:15 +0000 (UTC) --0015175def84c2099c04961996d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi gang, if u were to buy the best and most realistic string software out there for production,cellos,violins etc. which one would it be? ive also been checking out mellotron emulators,dont know what the real story is with GForce M-tron,i keep reading mixed reviews,definetly the best emulator out there (apparently even used by Rick Wakeman)though from some reviews not very reliable,anybody experienced with it? --0015175def84c2099c04961996d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gang,
if u were to buy the best and most realistic string software ou= t there for production,cellos,violins etc. which one would it be?
ive al= so been checking out mellotron emulators,dont know what the real story is w= ith GForce M-tron,i keep reading mixed reviews,definetly the best emulator = out there (apparently even used by Rick Wakeman)though from some reviews no= t very reliable,anybody experienced with it?
--0015175def84c2099c04961996d2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 09:39:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E7E93BE86; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 09:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1290937169; bh=63Ct7U0zd7bVmK58n2DRg70HMZhhfqVN3JCjSTUVq+E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Uv5JuaKKgNsBEaMn66CdguCfLURLvNBK4aN1sifkDTFYR/WFVHNCvntnFyqWbGoJA2J5FwYPGFsxKORoukcby5fsI/InJKRTLmfCBa6kJ7xPH1rzwOPJsl3Pm4iBHBRVc+SzhJWsGn3o1IU2iVEe2eQubr1SFMnl9FpBpdMYF8c= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HYxyCDVqS8lk5CYmXgjgQmv7yk7C6ZPLt3Z8SctSoowZRdsXstHIm8thkgLNLM+h0XiK4WdTTolz98LfP04UW6JM27MUKlpoZvhiGRlzIQodkzdxKnyRq8VEq+mJr+yhPVtNEZCgOsrf3cApa4mvETHaWtvxBlBniznp04TGzXE=; Message-ID: <358840.79032.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aLx_4K8VM1kEJaEEJ4RZQAbkQfNprpMAPcdTuYCMCiKq3OK hsgC.Oheg67k3r.zzmJYcmJgGuqmT70.NWE2JRDf0MdPl4SAaC7k23dO0KS3 twOafLcu0LDPSlojKZXG1FllPJjz45Ng5IjBNrjZ7jM9kkQvFrU9PGuGiXmc rxjwlMf2P__Mjv7NavC3RmTg0mLqiDUTWBC3mJr2KVpZlpeYoLz20DyLSQsk gfYPW6rN7nzAkF_iu2C9HONVFG1hxLWusQW5rIFzO X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <2BA35357-AD90-42D9-83AC-CA71057E0969@well.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:39:29 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: drum percussion samples To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2BA35357-AD90-42D9-83AC-CA71057E0969@well.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-286079791-1290937169=:79032" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 09:39:30 +0000 (UTC) --0-286079791-1290937169=:79032 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hello, way back someone mentioned a library of drum samples, very well made, not very expensive. Can anyone help me find my way back to the drum sample factory lost in the middle of the woods... I am not looking for loops, just the raw samples. I ususally make my own but I have limited access to drum kits; Deep orchestral drums would be a big plus! Antony Hequet --0-286079791-1290937169=:79032 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hello,

way back someone mentioned a library of drum samples, very well made, not very expensive. Can anyone help me find my way back to the drum sample factory lost in the middle of the woods... I am not looking for loops, just the raw samples. I ususally make my own but I have limited access to drum kits; Deep orchestral drums would be a big plus!

Antony Hequet



--0-286079791-1290937169=:79032-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 09:41:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D34D3BE87; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 09:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fC1FxhSvfdvcFj6IMQBo3dDDj3rR0VJThtqKQJoXRC8=; b=vOOCMvOJzF2XAzlJiIXkkzlxJhF+er2WKcpSSX5nviOCDKhpC+kG+L9yREcgIXW8rw RbHQPuVAhmesqUvKG+PnfbRnvVWUC+6PAFlcnYhT/fBdTT75UzzUASnXnq0L/ngKSmcX MJub/iQfWZqZGJeMANiInUlnN37v4LSKnRx/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RlSeMTc1WdTiB6myAB65N+Lfv+eAjwAlx3b4Yd76PVTQtvlnGQpj/4xeDJUYOBzTYH SHCjn6M0+eeYwY90kE2wjsQCKEvN6RUPcv1fbJalQi2Vrdf8fqOYT1ZjHgYpUiGLGajM z/h4GiAjvPUK80OkXOpZneWZzQJcel2I7Pxew= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:40:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: mellotron and Rick Wakeman From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175def84c49543049619c068 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 09:41:06 +0000 (UTC) --0015175def84c49543049619c068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 this is just too fuckin hilaroius http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_mUhJZJPE Ricks beer belly rocks Luis --0015175def84c49543049619c068 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 this is just too fuckin hilaroius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_mUhJZJPE

Ricks beer belly rocks
Luis
--0015175def84c49543049619c068-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 10:38:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30E0C3BE8A; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a6jarWgx1Kmi5szqGDZnfCe5NOfFFXo9PCXh9UzIH5s=; b=hBYpXZo90FoCeMFXSjIzLKT5uwpzA2JXoua6svu/6eB6YyI2ykXJNax9gCQ1Aknhum TrK2pW1Qbd0lNn2L7BE2S/ZDkFNevS96YsGhkVXPU8/9uU9NnVJ5T/cl2bfFx65IxWRi 0TXXDLC6NUW8m1nHTqii/lqMmZYyfjkXW56kA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mTLeenqrvllU14diE/+HmLwC0Sk64vuBWA4o96eI3L0KpclBbTrAVpPriMkZ6ZBT4n UWhSNmvuWuqDRmQ/UQOUMwAkSvLQGvhR93wNbBABPPOxBIsgBuaxUrI2I/jjgLe60IiK tadXv53Qd5rCbCWEObUH3VhsCuhAd6wh2W3hg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:38:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:38:04 +0000 (UTC) M-tron doesn't sound like strings, it sounds like a Mellotron. But THAT it does well ;-) I have heard from guys that do symphony string orchestra mock-ups for games and movies that LASS is "the best" now http://www.audiobro.com/html/lass.html In the past Miroslav Vitous library has been regarded "the best" by many: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov10/articles/string-ensembles.htm A good hint right now is that Native Instrument is selling stuff for half the list price. I don't know how long this deal will last, but their Session Strings is also regarded very good by folks who do fake string stuff in studios. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > if u were to buy the best and most realistic string software out there for > production,cellos,violins etc. which one would it be? > ive also been checking out mellotron emulators,dont know what the real story > is with GForce M-tron,i keep reading mixed reviews,definetly the best > emulator out there (apparently even used by Rick Wakeman)though from some > reviews not very reliable,anybody experienced with it? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 10:42:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87AB93BE89; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oXnaLwnG345SIszIcOXuGHACYO1omaRwv1Ixr4oPlfY=; b=pAH49q5vIH5rOFmqaFKgabRpuK+0NrIDUdf9uVaqPzyWpgDS7oR21b6z/LiyKOY3pm cqWp13mYLYBS3/gt9Cn5se23bKw0oG5ba5qp+inX76uRReIRe1PBHn5sAS+nk+6dc/sr TmsnCrSq09Ytmuk6+E4CBxJZT80ky6q8GnrAI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vE2+TisZwChAOpzGzVdgS+mXG5eq00+5r6BZfa9qYfMM3/7UKfZ6Fex+mBY5QbXrDM zZXlWtHsUNTRZKGhh5nsNmXfPPRU42P3Yf2A0571LRCZDP1VcZd3dO0vI0Bt9B6vtlR3 eHU7bniKmLUAgApYVWMQL+F/GuNorP1yc+i30= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:42:35 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555a9ca1c37d104961a9dbe Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:42:38 +0000 (UTC) --00032555a9ca1c37d104961a9dbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I played a gig with Oliver Wakeman (Rick's son) in Croydon, one time. Lovely chap. On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > M-tron doesn't sound like strings, it sounds like a Mellotron. But > THAT it does well ;-) > > I have heard from guys that do symphony string orchestra mock-ups for > games and movies that LASS is "the best" now > http://www.audiobro.com/html/lass.html > > In the past Miroslav Vitous library has been regarded "the best" by many: > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov10/articles/string-ensembles.htm > > A good hint right now is that Native Instrument is selling stuff for > half the list price. I don't know how long this deal will last, but > their Session Strings is also regarded very good by folks who do fake > string stuff in studios. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > Hi gang, > > if u were to buy the best and most realistic string software out there > for > > production,cellos,violins etc. which one would it be? > > ive also been checking out mellotron emulators,dont know what the real > story > > is with GForce M-tron,i keep reading mixed reviews,definetly the best > > emulator out there (apparently even used by Rick Wakeman)though from some > > reviews not very reliable,anybody experienced with it? > > > > --00032555a9ca1c37d104961a9dbe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I played a gig with Oliver Wakeman (Rick's son) in Croydon, one time. L= ovely chap.

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:38= AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
M-tron doesn'= t sound like strings, it sounds like a Mellotron. But
THAT it does well ;-)

I have heard from guys that do symphony string orchestra mock-ups for
games and movies that LASS is "the best" now
http:/= /www.audiobro.com/html/lass.html

In the past Miroslav Vitous library has been regarded "the best" = by many:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov10/articles/strin= g-ensembles.htm

A good hint right now is that Native Instrument is selling stuff for
half the list price. I don't know how long this deal will last, but
their Session Strings is also regarded very good by folks who do fake
string stuff in studios.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.= com> wrote:
> Hi gang,
> if u were to buy the best and most realistic string software out there= for
> production,cellos,violins etc. which one would it be?
> ive also been checking out mellotron emulators,dont know what the real= story
> is with GForce M-tron,i keep reading mixed reviews,definetly the best<= br> > emulator out there (apparently even used by Rick Wakeman)though from s= ome
> reviews not very reliable,anybody experienced with it?
>


--00032555a9ca1c37d104961a9dbe-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 10:43:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F47C3BE8D; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/lhvB074yut2XvGb6Lv7JeUCRglVoMQ+4RB3qeF9SCM=; b=lCMJHBU1g6HeBMX48HaHxMUXN5bjMbzLDZtzxKrDikHUHnrlBBDk0/qPS8rd3y9Ek7 7F9iL9lgIdWQKMBwOkxfd6conzqrqbwjo7LyHOoWI1uSniMsvwz5wpo4lxB2ArZqw0FB 2JZy1QpGkIvOPrWElgs7pkn0M1deXnET6bPfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gmDwnEnWUvYKIFIhIQAcz/STAFv9dj1RRNYP5SrJLS42mVqrFXInkCFQV6WHEAXuN7 091Tz1I9iRiPnEcu/QPR3aWoayQLt8TLKKiC0jkqt3hp4xOCdzmD2FXkPZ+62biBxLrK JNIBfyZCX6mdghB1qGUBcSIhlUCIJXPyjhA1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2BA35357-AD90-42D9-83AC-CA71057E0969@well.com> References: <2BA35357-AD90-42D9-83AC-CA71057E0969@well.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:43:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Octratrack From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:43:30 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Chris Muir wrote: > Has anyone been following the information being released about the Elektron Octatrack? > http://www.elektron.se/products/octatrack?section=overview&page=1 I think this list has been following it with a couple of threads. Last thing I heard from the developers of this seemingly fab device is that "more information will be shared as we proceed"... or something like that. Better patiently sit back and wait to see what gives when the time comes. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 11:08:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FAE23BE8B; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GSXOTB+wm5Avjkf8a5xK6EvsMHkbO2XfIbaQ4i2o+mA=; b=JWcSFnAodcJhuckFD+pvTq/tNq8uLwO26/cI1M4QW9+B4JQQqpXyRlJG699vYIXjTW TAq+TPednb8BTaEyXpluCT8Bkvy4vu7nEpPiqCpK27mw7uEIWAayeb+/GW/rTB72BXFP 6G/HoD+wVaAHYv2ys+7x8dR668J6mYqCsY0WM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w/tV3PXhMmUen4ASp3/liTVjKjG+0K+9ZNWpCY4EDWiwuBO/EAIMACAD7IwbTUdYNg mriTDVqiw/XqUcjSYwjQPjiP/Mbg31z9SBg05Pw4vNstncKwVbi4v6/LQtm+ieS0aytZ JYp64bh5rHvtRON20YAIfboi2Z/Vuae3UOtEo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:08:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:08:07 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > A good hint right now is that Native Instrument is selling stuff for > half the list price. I don't know how long this deal will last, but > their Session Strings is also regarded very good by folks who do fake > string stuff in studios. Hi Louie and all, Their web site is whacky now but entering from the German server works better: http://www.native-instruments.com/#/de (you can chose "English" there if you like) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 11:13:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2ECE13BE8C; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8YZdd6ygyBuUx6/JIKEC5OYNqpWFhv3gnfPRs7AUSVk=; b=k2b6zkAAzLNpWW/UuA5/eOPeTkz9IHO595RdPZb5Ge5CEWBqJZvOTwg3kIckar5AsL SgMj9wuPd6HnktZ1Dt6cIjMU/3GJFIqOGdMDHTT6PEoTpsuNF5nNCO/Pf2GKQvG6w1jk GmsJpJPgjnoxf8Y5x9vdSVPaBUTb4UfAQpFG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=qfVnqodFfgL6KahCvyi9Ut61f9UB8msFa3Mc24YBZ6BnvwtLfkK+ntAmHO6sSsy6xG QEAI5TsNi1bODWeE+3Gmh4Ps9HbvGZ2ZmKnEH/HgW5GrZQMExYoydREtrc1vT1AjQbAj prlbNVXyRZKC1Divkk7GAwlxvvIDZI1Fqc3Bc= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:13:45 +0100 Message-ID: <7721928044531393473@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: best software strings To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Good advice here, I've been buying a few of these ni packs, deep freq etc... Thanks for the headup on strings, I find the logic strings good enough, but am lacking other orchestral sounds, not individual sounds so much but good multi brass woodwind stuff, somehow, layering lots of instruments doesn't sound right... And is heavy... Will be checking out these recommendations... Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 28 Nov 2010, at 11:38, Per Boysen wrote: > M-tron doesn't sound like strings, it sounds like a Mellotron. But > THAT it does well ;-) > > I have heard from guys that do symphony string orchestra mock-ups for > games and movies that LASS is "the best" now > http://www.audiobro.com/html/lass.html > > In the past Miroslav Vitous library has been regarded "the best" by many: > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov10/articles/string-ensembles.htm > > A good hint right now is that Native Instrument is selling stuff for > half the list price. I don't know how long this deal will last, but > their Session Strings is also regarded very good by folks who do fake > string stuff in studios. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> Hi gang, >> if u were to buy the best and most realistic string software out there for >> production,cellos,violins etc. which one would it be? >> ive also been checking out mellotron emulators,dont know what the real story >> is with GForce M-tron,i keep reading mixed reviews,definetly the best >> emulator out there (apparently even used by Rick Wakeman)though from some >> reviews not very reliable,anybody experienced with it? >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 11:16:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B4E83BE99; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=3EyuRluyX3iPYoTdChII5jvdWnBnQkvUGw0KRwI03GE=; b=Z40EsqXfYJzggZg21Blv1qGXyVY/ic/wNtMvv8VuWnDlfN0Tu7NobN2tuUgNXSbZOV /NdsYsN2mlfMkFSJIWWQB6yUo3PbNnFrSSmyyBftjpEVcgXe4euPEsA7uuhsv7ASOyb7 CqW7l34EUHpOi7+22QH//cPPbnQUFgUoEUgpM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=cUeyRFAdhSxo8ruUtD5/JTbVbv0nIrFDawnenoJwmxCPQrO/nmSmVp0NKCpFAl7pXk q4m8S1KpFXmpLvi9EsyzK/l/lOgyorx93GBZIj78gmZPsHhSU9R2/ym8boruMaS1l8/7 el/TtmPzGuQZQ18NOQEQvBgL4+pVMbtdCj8e0= References: <2BA35357-AD90-42D9-83AC-CA71057E0969@well.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:17:26 +0100 Message-ID: <-3195481745150292695@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Octratrack To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:16:43 +0000 (UTC) I saw that update too, I'm mostly exited by what that company might do... Big fan of their other products... Seems like some software delays, I'm not going to make the same mistake as I did with softstep... So let's wait and see how it turns out... Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 28 Nov 2010, at 11:43, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Chris Muir wrote: >> Has anyone been following the information being released about the Elektron Octatrack? >> http://www.elektron.se/products/octatrack?section=overview&page=1 > > I think this list has been following it with a couple of threads. Last > thing I heard from the developers of this seemingly fab device is that > "more information will be shared as we proceed"... or something like > that. Better patiently sit back and wait to see what gives when the > time comes. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 11:23:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 716853BEC1; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=D2e8+8FFIKRM0x/j/A6AOQqZeYCsU8B8d9LJpVviVE4=; b=k8+/uRMyIgQcS2u7C519jQpcGtjCiEGoyYksmtB37e24B4EFkMAH+LxTTKBmPtWb3t CBE5VK07TF5E2WMuwMRi+70ije/wFY/izFMgR8dJPRRIZiVi+0luVfFKzTDXyWc0CuBX LggUeMQlA4KHpFTFWTY82RmtCMRLo80ZLvX3E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dXePlLBkV4aUV//zEyrKadYYVg4IG1EOCuHDJDgKJHDPZGNOg8WrE1aKj4/P6RIIcp df7iowwiRVRwN24ZsJrNKEjKBspr5iM3EaGKAOTlIYZS4sRXVZPn0BaMv6xQKwT7S9Bs pTjvEisUR9m19cpuXa5bDOwyISJmVxhfxO3O4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7721928044531393473@unknownmsgid> References: <7721928044531393473@unknownmsgid> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:23:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <1wFF_C.A.giC.Bvj8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:23:45 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: > but am lacking other orchestral sounds, not individual sounds > so much but good multi brass woodwind stuff, somehow, layering lots of > instruments doesn't sound right... And is heavy... "Layering lots of instruments" tend to sound good when done by the guys usually hired for doing that. It is a specialized competence and it takes a hell of a lot of computing power to set up a virtual symphonic orchestra "in the box". So your point is totally accurate ;-)) Have a look at the Garageband orchestral apple loops that got installed with the Logic Studio package. There should be a number of useful stereo recordings of specific groups from an orchestra playing melodies, scales etc. If you find a good sample you may need to cut, paste and transpose to fit it in. If mocking it up in Logic you may find use for the Bounce In Place feature as well as the Make Sampler Instrument feature. You may also need to bounce an apple loop into a new audio file in order to escape its pesky habit of following tempo etc Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 12:33:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD0623BE8C; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_90bcdfcc-7311-4b7a-b70c-bdab04c4d968_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Octratrack Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:33:02 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <-3195481745150292695@unknownmsgid> References: <2BA35357-AD90-42D9-83AC-CA71057E0969@well.com> ,<-3195481745150292695@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2010 12:33:02.0480 (UTC) FILETIME=[66049100:01CB8EF8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:33:03 +0000 (UTC) --_90bcdfcc-7311-4b7a-b70c-bdab04c4d968_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will get one as sson as i can=2C hopefully before christmas and I hope it= will be diffrent. I will report on my experiences. Perhaps it will not rep= lace any existing looper=2C my main hope is that it gives me some creative = new ideas. I don't rellay KNOW how I will use it... it will be a fun exprim= ent.. Btw there is quite a lot of inforamation up at Elektrons site. I think para= meter locks=2C sequencer and all the rhytmic stuff is enough new and intres= ting stuf. However I hope it has feedback control=2C and rhytmic insert/rep= lace (perhaps controlled by sequencer) but mainny I will try to appraoch it= as unkown territitry not as a EDP replacment or something like that. I rat= her hope that it will NOT replace the EDP but do something rather diffrent.= . and cool... =20 > From: markfrancombe@gmail.com > Date: Sun=2C 28 Nov 2010 12:17:26 +0100 > Subject: Re: Octratrack > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I saw that update too=2C I'm mostly exited by what that company might > do... Big fan of their other products... Seems like some software > delays=2C I'm not going to make the same mistake as I did with > softstep... >=20 > So let's wait and see how it turns out... >=20 > Mark >=20 > Sent from my (advertisement removed) >=20 > On 28 Nov 2010=2C at 11:43=2C Per Boysen wrote: >=20 > > On Sun=2C Nov 28=2C 2010 at 9:06 AM=2C Chris Muir wrote: > >> Has anyone been following the information being released about the Ele= ktron Octatrack? > >> http://www.elektron.se/products/octatrack?section=3Doverview&page=3D1 > > > > I think this list has been following it with a couple of threads. Last > > thing I heard from the developers of this seemingly fab device is that > > "more information will be shared as we proceed"... or something like > > that. Better patiently sit back and wait to see what gives when the > > time comes. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > >=20 = --_90bcdfcc-7311-4b7a-b70c-bdab04c4d968_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will get one as sson as i can=2C hopefully before christmas and =3BI = hope it will =3Bbe diffrent. I will =3Breport on =3Bmy experien= ces. Perhaps it will not replace any existing looper=2C =3Bmy main hope= is =3Bthat it =3Bgives me some creative new ideas. I don't rellay = KNOW how =3BI will use it... it will be a fun expriment..
Btw there =3Bis quite a lot of inforamation =3Bup =3Bat Elektro= ns site. I think parameter locks=2C sequencer and all the rhytmic stuff is = enough new and intresting stuf. However I hope it has feedback =3Bcontr= ol=2C and rhytmic insert/replace (perhaps controlled by sequencer) but main= ny I will try to appraoch it as unkown territitry not as a EDP replacment o= r something like that. I rather hope that it will NOT replace the EDP but d= o something rather diffrent.. and cool...
 =3B
>=3B From: markfrancombe@gmail.com
>=3B Date: Sun=2C 28 Nov 2010 12:= 17:26 +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: Octratrack
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight= @loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B I saw that update too=2C I'm most= ly exited by what that company might
>=3B do... Big fan of their other= products... Seems like some software
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>=3B= On 28 Nov 2010=2C at 11:43=2C Per Boysen <=3Bperboysen@gmail.com>=3B w= rote:
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>=3B >=3B On Sun=2C Nov 28=2C 2010 at 9:06 AM=2C Ch= ris Muir <=3Bcbm@well.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B>=3B Has anyone = been following the information being released about the Elektron Octatrack?=
>=3B >=3B>=3B http://www.elektron.se/products/octatrack?section= =3Doverview&=3Bpage=3D1
>=3B >=3B
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&g= t=3B >=3B "more information will be shared as we proceed"... or something= like
>=3B >=3B that. Better patiently sit back and wait to see what= gives when the
>=3B >=3B time comes.
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= = --_90bcdfcc-7311-4b7a-b70c-bdab04c4d968_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 13:30:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B364B3BE8D; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 13:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=Ddxc8qv1avJjbOkYzb1HtrogD5jlOFbm4186mJ/H7e8=; b=X+Vg3kAZr29Y7G4eLLzVqxiuXl6S1Bnnj/JkxLCjyJLobr1M/hLtwnlexDcMeLO0p5 /TpPW4mveuZ3tMuf+TS0rAfhtX0YyT6KodUTqeJmVeamLb+/DqQ3mOG3uI3HP8egRdpN xahqkkUd6vkJpJv/TEd0/G4kMwPS6fSzYlc9w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=fSz2vR+xCsnQsD9p+YyvvttSvkqFeaO8/q3q+nI52BTCAaOXiQtTQ7NtNI3N6YzJ8Z I/y94MOeUwywWDNng7DmfZI5p3+ancjmxTz+sucWadlOR1e0LuBa0pL5XryXkNbrRWPg su6MyD8aoBSgXrA9g/wibC6cgVmyDx9erKlyk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <7721928044531393473@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:29:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: UhCCf1r-nc1d23Aj3dqgXwddiZw Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549e61da64df04961cf30e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 13:30:03 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549e61da64df04961cf30e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think thats the group of sounds that I was talking about that I like in logic... I do try to build up some layers, cos in clasical music, that how it goes. One can cheat a bit by having a lead violin and a lead oboe and a lead trombone or trumpet, and using "ensemble" samples for the rest of that section of the orchestra. so you can nearly get away with having only 9 tracks for a whole orch. Lead Violin - Ensemble Strings - Oboe/Clarinet - Ensemble woodwind - Lead trumpet/Trumpet - ensemble Brass - piano - percusion - Misc (maybe harp or something) However, Its very dificult to use "ensemble" samples normally, as they tend to sound like the whole orchestra is modulating key, when you change them. I have a few setups of ensembles doing a few intervals, but then one is restricted by what the sample recordists chose. digression... I always choose sounds in Logic via the right hand genre box, Im not sure if this is always the best way. For finding Apple Loops I believe it is, but I would like to simply chug through all the sounds AFTERWARDS, when I have written a part using a placeholder instrument, usually piano. To be honest I hate the actual intruments in Logic, they sound great, but they dont look like anthing I know, I used Reason for years for my corporate music jobs, and loved it (despite the sounds) cos for me who had a rack of modular gear, and have owned more synths than Ive had.. er... sex with black women... I just KNEW how to operate the synths in Reason. ... and back to the topic... I am however loving the Kore Player and or Kontakt player instruments from Native instruments, they a simple basic and sound pretty good... glad to hear the orch sounds are good, will investigate... LASS looks great! M On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:13 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > but am lacking other orchestral sounds, not individual sounds > > so much but good multi brass woodwind stuff, somehow, layering lots of > > instruments doesn't sound right... And is heavy... > > "Layering lots of instruments" tend to sound good when done by the > guys usually hired for doing that. It is a specialized competence and > it takes a hell of a lot of computing power to set up a virtual > symphonic orchestra "in the box". So your point is totally accurate > ;-)) Have a look at the Garageband orchestral apple loops that got > installed with the Logic Studio package. There should be a number of > useful stereo recordings of specific groups from an orchestra playing > melodies, scales etc. If you find a good sample you may need to cut, > paste and transpose to fit it in. If mocking it up in Logic you may > find use for the Bounce In Place feature as well as the Make Sampler > Instrument feature. You may also need to bounce an apple loop into a > new audio file in order to escape its pesky habit of following tempo > etc > > Per > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549e61da64df04961cf30e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think thats the group of sounds that I was talking about that I like in l= ogic...
I do try to build up some layers, cos in clasical music, that h= ow it goes. One can cheat a bit by having a lead violin and a lead oboe and= a lead trombone or trumpet, and using "ensemble" samples for the= rest of that section of the orchestra. so you can nearly get away with hav= ing only 9 tracks for a whole orch.
Lead Violin - Ensemble Strings - Oboe/Clarinet - Ensemble woodwind - Lead t= rumpet/Trumpet - ensemble Brass - piano - percusion - Misc (maybe harp or s= omething)
However, Its very dificult to use "ensemble" samples= normally, as they tend to sound like the whole orchestra is modulating key= , when you change them. I have a few setups of ensembles doing a few interv= als, but then one is restricted by what the sample recordists chose.

digression...

I always choose sounds in Logic via the right hand= genre box, Im not sure if this is always the best way. For finding Apple L= oops I believe it is, but I would like to simply chug through all the sound= s AFTERWARDS, when I have written a part using a placeholder instrument, us= ually piano. To be honest I hate the actual intruments in Logic, they sound= great, but they dont look like anthing I know, I used Reason for years for= my corporate music jobs, and loved it (despite the sounds) cos for me who = had a rack of modular gear, and have owned more synths than Ive had.. er...= sex with black women... I just KNEW how to operate the synths in Reason.
... and back to the topic...

I am however loving the Kore Player= and or Kontakt player instruments from Native instruments, they a simple b= asic and sound pretty good... glad to hear the orch sounds are good, will i= nvestigate... LASS looks great!

M


On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:23 P= M, Per Boysen <= perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:13 PM, mark francombe
<markfrancombe@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
> but am lacking other orchestral sounds, not individual sounds
> so much but good multi brass woodwind stuff, somehow, layering lots of=
> instruments doesn't sound right... And is heavy...

"Layering lots of instruments" tend to sound good when done= by the
guys usually hired for doing that. It is a specialized competence and
it takes a hell of a lot of computing power to set up a virtual
symphonic orchestra "in the box". So your point is totally accura= te
;-)) =A0Have a look at the Garageband orchestral apple loops that got
installed with the Logic Studio package. There should be a number of
useful stereo recordings of specific groups from an orchestra playing
melodies, scales etc. If you find a good sample you may need to cut,
paste and transpose to fit it in. If mocking it up in Logic you may
find use for the Bounce In Place feature as well as the Make Sampler
Instrument feature. You may also need to bounce an apple loop into a
new audio file in order to escape its pesky habit of following tempo
etc

Per




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mark francombewww.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markf= rancombe
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--20cf30549e61da64df04961cf30e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 14:42:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BEC43BE93; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PMfBgGSTRvva3Cn/MlGpQAIsn5jm2Y/tor5snL7oQhg=; b=KgjVwI3Vc1HMGgOt+4zOVefffFsDoM5PNw3viqrv9CRPTXxYLi+LYmsL7cRxkYlPoy trmSLlT5H634oo05hN9n1KgNT3+6vNBvujLAIOJDSmcwjmXkSjNlgJJSYvoeUWovMHiJ 6xkZSZsrYe9VRfubWO0p2L66+n63/keJR9Lh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Sy5nfAAvV49C3L2GNy4MMJcS+mXQ36LYypiNFk37DdnRvE/g+IJy6TnLFwLwvb9wix u6a+uzwCqZlylX5El6Ys8KqfhF4upiSsh13PD/0JikHNTwM8a6D0ya3uA02P7oSV5kQz i/+BsU50d+gNqSKL5O3jE1L0ymL0N5RCBSI0k= Message-ID: <4CF26A4F.8030907@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:42:23 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Digital Audio Interface References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, my reply has several parts: First, I don't understand what you mean by "I can record off of the ASIO". Could you perhaps describe in a little bit more depth how the signals run on the computer/MOTU interface (i.e. which software, what is used for recording etc.)? Then, I cannot believe that the MAudio does not allow you to select the tracks independently - meaning the behaviour you describe is possibly some setup or driver issue. If you are content with the interface otherwise, perhaps check that again - possibly only the MME drivers have been installed (and the ASIO drivers are missing), or you accidentally connected the interface to USB1.1 (or it is recoginzed as such by your computer), so the interface acts as a one-input/one-output interface due to the low USB1.1 bandwidth? Third thing: whatever you do, try to connect different computers via SPDIF. It makes life so much simpler. Yours, Rainer ps: if you really want another interface - what's your budget? Otherwise, you might get more of the recommendations like Anthony's, or mine (RME Fireface UFX looks sweet ;). Depending on what you want to do, I would not suggest the TC interface - they tend to have issues with their drivers (last week's MSSS essentially broke down due to a driver update), and suffer from bad low-latency performance in general. Then again, for more studio-oriented work (where latency is usually not an issue), they may work fine (audio quality is outstanding). Jeffery Duke schrieb: > I presently have a MOTU 896HD firewire interface which I use for > podcasting. It works great because I can record off of the ASIO while > I set the output to the main mix, in order to send to Skype and record > it at the same time. > > So I decided to pick up a new unit, a M-Audio Fast Track Ultra, which > would be great, except in the Windows driver assignment, I don't have > the option to pick which channel/mix to assign, it's just, "Output" or > "Input". The MOTU has all of the channels broken out along with the > Mix for playback. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 15:02:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50B033BE8D; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DmqxoVrDh8ugdvTp2PTGU7Dc2Z6q3br9XtpUV+MG5wQ=; b=jV6YsLXMVTCGTrPI6zizi7mHGDDKyECdidhak6YRuJnA2VHPVmZpWxNoVc2vzOASIG UuC1TKsr7IzIw1Km3iQIWMhBJJgw4MOvWveh6E6sAyfaJudqcocwErySRgdMtePblI8Z XsNd7v8fIkIR9/jjTjEe4nP+gckVj/NdvFmh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sPLvNRh18NFl4VRFHOJrz0QETytnjBLeO8DjZmdrO/wO1b0qD5FYUXwYsdsFzw51cH s93e0FDU8jY8CPvApGdHdO5897uKsFbvPivryH+6eK2+9Tp/oJmXkI/odqzBFU4ipF5m gk3w+NNOAzZR1Nkv9D/oRfwlLB76hpPP6vOi4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CF26A4F.8030907@googlemail.com> References: <4CF26A4F.8030907@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:02:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Digital Audio Interface From: Jeffery Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b325d3b85004961e3e77 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:02:36 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b325d3b85004961e3e77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry that wasn't more clear, I will try to explain... I record through ASIO using Adobe Audition, and I am able to set the default output in Windows to be the main mix for all channels. This makes sending to Skype both my mic feed and whatever audio might be playing on the computer as I can set it to receive audio using the main mix as its "mic". I will check out that other info, this is all very educational! Thanks everyone! On Nov 28, 2010 9:42 AM, "Rainer Straschill" wrote: > Jeff, > > my reply has several parts: > First, I don't understand what you mean by "I can record off of the > ASIO". Could you perhaps describe in a little bit more depth how the > signals run on the computer/MOTU interface (i.e. which software, what is > used for recording etc.)? > > Then, I cannot believe that the MAudio does not allow you to select the > tracks independently - meaning the behaviour you describe is possibly > some setup or driver issue. If you are content with the interface > otherwise, perhaps check that again - possibly only the MME drivers have > been installed (and the ASIO drivers are missing), or you accidentally > connected the interface to USB1.1 (or it is recoginzed as such by your > computer), so the interface acts as a one-input/one-output interface due > to the low USB1.1 bandwidth? > > Third thing: whatever you do, try to connect different computers via > SPDIF. It makes life so much simpler. > > Yours, > > Rainer > > ps: if you really want another interface - what's your budget? > Otherwise, you might get more of the recommendations like Anthony's, or > mine (RME Fireface UFX looks sweet ;). Depending on what you want to do, > I would not suggest the TC interface - they tend to have issues with > their drivers (last week's MSSS essentially broke down due to a driver > update), and suffer from bad low-latency performance in general. Then > again, for more studio-oriented work (where latency is usually not an > issue), they may work fine (audio quality is outstanding). > > Jeffery Duke schrieb: >> I presently have a MOTU 896HD firewire interface which I use for >> podcasting. It works great because I can record off of the ASIO while >> I set the output to the main mix, in order to send to Skype and record >> it at the same time. >> >> So I decided to pick up a new unit, a M-Audio Fast Track Ultra, which >> would be great, except in the Windows driver assignment, I don't have >> the option to pick which channel/mix to assign, it's just, "Output" or >> "Input". The MOTU has all of the channels broken out along with the >> Mix for playback. > > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > --001636c5b325d3b85004961e3e77 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry that wasn't more clear, I will try to explain...

I record through ASIO using Adobe Audition, and I am able to set the def= ault output in Windows to be the main mix for all channels.=A0 This makes s= ending to Skype both my mic feed and whatever audio might be playing on the= computer as I can set it to receive audio using the main mix as its "= mic".

I will check out that other info, this is all very educational!=A0 Thank= s everyone!

On Nov 28, 2010 9:42 AM, "Rainer Straschill= " <moinsound@googlemail= .com> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> my = reply has several parts:
> First, I don't understand what you mean by "I can record off = of the
> ASIO". Could you perhaps describe in a little bit more= depth how the
> signals run on the computer/MOTU interface (i.e. wh= ich software, what is
> used for recording etc.)?
>
> Then, I cannot believe that= the MAudio does not allow you to select the
> tracks independently = - meaning the behaviour you describe is possibly
> some setup or dri= ver issue. If you are content with the interface
> otherwise, perhaps check that again - possibly only the MME drivers ha= ve
> been installed (and the ASIO drivers are missing), or you accid= entally
> connected the interface to USB1.1 (or it is recoginzed as = such by your
> computer), so the interface acts as a one-input/one-output interface d= ue
> to the low USB1.1 bandwidth?
>
> Third thing: what= ever you do, try to connect different computers via
> SPDIF. It make= s life so much simpler.
>
> Yours,
>
> Rainer
>
>= ps: if you really want another interface - what's your budget?
>= ; Otherwise, you might get more of the recommendations like Anthony's, = or
> mine (RME Fireface UFX looks sweet ;). Depending on what you want to d= o,
> I would not suggest the TC interface - they tend to have issues= with
> their drivers (last week's MSSS essentially broke down d= ue to a driver
> update), and suffer from bad low-latency performance in general. Then =
> again, for more studio-oriented work (where latency is usually not= an
> issue), they may work fine (audio quality is outstanding).
>
> Jeffery Duke schrieb:
>> I presently have a MOTU 896= HD firewire interface which I use for
>> podcasting. It works gr= eat because I can record off of the ASIO while
>> I set the outpu= t to the main mix, in order to send to Skype and record
>> it at the same time.
>>
>> So I decided to pick = up a new unit, a M-Audio Fast Track Ultra, which
>> would be grea= t, except in the Windows driver assignment, I don't have
>> t= he option to pick which channel/mix to assign, it's just, "Output&= quot; or
>> "Input". The MOTU has all of the channels broken out al= ong with the
>> Mix for playback.
>
>
> -- > http://moinlabs.de
> Follow= me on twitter: http://twitter.com/= moinlabs
>
--001636c5b325d3b85004961e3e77-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 15:03:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CE093BE93; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: best software strings Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:03:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcuPCqVSWXm6vwK6QoKEFeUwsL4gSAAArwZQ In-Reply-To: X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.4.114; VDF: 7.10.14.126) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:03:58 +0000 (UTC) > dont know what the real story is with GForce M-tron,i keep reading mixed reviews the best virtual Mellotron you can find, and totally reliable so far -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 15:20:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B12B93BE8A; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pIf8aOe+HqxLBlI6pWGSq9L0/W59S5CUQVr7hBSae5w=; b=bkV5uzxUcQz3nPxMyaqg3LNR/+dyfFXDyL/seC8BjICV3eEAh3PiYvoVf4Ar9oBfCc ynygF6ljGULxOYh4kGA6qFw2/0zzW5MXNXXjhkPE5E5ngRSXUKHp62ZPJenK5F/4zQzx 3FrG/8vYvtM271u1FYdG1FEfHnnBxQszSyIzM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xDyIDq5lBavwhat+T7NngnccXYzwR9dSSN8hpS5/dlKzdRr1FeNzh2O3g5FnuOXhAJ /wVH0i2HxVeFP5mRb8AlCbcWvl/iL7e8pMz6udD+kchhf6ZPRcfFuho89w9l0kG7l3ev iPyKvrm6MjZtsc5cA18L3A+CzivcIRMc0nQbk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:20:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:20:16 +0000 (UTC) >> dont know what the real story is with GForce M-tron,i keep reading mixed > reviews On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > the best virtual Mellotron you can find, and totally reliable so far I've kept a collection of samples from the original tapes on my drive for years and love them! Using the mellotron strings with EWI in a regular live band today (throwing then into the EXS24 or Kontakt4). Hearing those sounds for the first time back in the days (for example by Moody Blues, Bowie, Tangerine Dream...) made a huge impact on my musical imagination. Took a long time to figure out what made that sound; actually I didn't understand until a friend in another band that owned a mellotron showed me the hissy tape recorders that never stayed in tune. Funny that it is the technical imperfections that brings the soul to the instrument (he, he... like Frisell's guitar talk - if you saw that post some hours ago) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 15:30:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7DB03BE93; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YN0G+YZ1IAWEbdbyaiNOQPpE4X1MM4ou0s5bu1l2lP8=; b=nYLaCk5F+ul30Gc+0lx3OOwMY8nQzZZLK7Brkz9thFmx9XI7w2KLXiX4aacXB2hWR1 EHOx/Woa/B7ZtT+EH4csl60aQZih8ZtqX6LPCMLI+4Qm0D/Ymb0l+9ZO/lC8aXzHlMbT Pqbyz3iZaVYOMv7fvFkO8CTkMkaD1uK8yfQGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VnApX4DIx4YZnT0spcFJB8tUMAjAZ4XD1Imzl7i9Ui7dqdehazmmJ1mSOt4a5gWJti MpLGcex2gahjYGojIEMfZguyGpm6lAB/JR3XwvOxaNTwrC0ogbahsgwIgBTyZMpSEv0C PCWoq1SvtjqClw1RqsKsYlS73lF7RbOcaysZc= Message-ID: <4CF275B0.1040209@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:30:56 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: best software strings References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen schrieb: > I've kept a collection of samples from the original tapes on my drive > for years and love them! Using the mellotron strings with EWI in a > For a lowcost solution: this article of mine - http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/saustoi-the-twitterchords-submission/ - has links to some free 'tron samples. Includes MkII Violins, String Section, M300A, M300B, MkII Brass, GC3 Brass, Woodwind 2, Combined Choir and Gong. There's also a track which uses some of those discussed there. 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= --Apple-Mail-18--869994708-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 18:46:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 693363BE98; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 509329.13716.bm@omp1013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=gqraK1dOOdEPUkknQtVQ74oVlmeAyGvYBY9t0kl1wipzzTkuFIj3HJI1B6MtqKfFUhooLnvE2YjVmjsSxF0hwCoOihLcTvU7z45aSSO3TL4SzKzG1u6Jgdbhcg4LEjYWVzrAxozq78MwqQazl43D6u32N6GekXyLdFosHx7O9o4= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1290970005; bh=gaUScXQcgKFgEk9KXumlavOelk8Se1c/8fOy2Wkze0k=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=JtfbcvILQfzQBqJh8wueBi3u+NlNaKPGC/yW4BStGKyCbzY5CR4+ZjsMBzOICAIj5QR2rGwhtdIlDx6DkNbR9sv+UgPMc1992zqP0PqhLjDAHx9smBmEbZv2ubMtV2EdBUbFMpd6RBI1bLnOPyFgfnyyX0b1S5yWoEdUTMtOBjg= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: I9kW6L8VM1mp7RcpdHDHVki99sdL94nZBIRJVfE9pXph8Sv rburlA.nxpATYdzuS5N8DZjUFcaTxGKuwicOV8ElBvqGFzE8PkJC98NbaJgt S53HAdD6lOvPjjPh9MKAR.pQJj6.KoqRIytwKZGVJXJa_dIaG8ttfFts2Odl xJiTcHllLlzpqO7Wk9DLW2wECIz6I0mOGODGCgpyGPjjBJP.dsiAsRGwbpk7 W7SYGWycFEh0z6j9uPXIVlLMJXsuWolWjRwAuXYTL.vXq0DGLEutQ4Gmr.Sp VgfkHMHBgOSyHt1Ebsmm8uJHZaw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4AB4678E-95D0-4986-B23F-A4D19AA4927C@btinternet.com> References: <4AB4678E-95D0-4986-B23F-A4D19AA4927C@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19--869816088 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Web stream gig spam Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:46:36 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <75M8JC.A.TbD.WOq8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:46:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-19--869816088 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed at www.cafenoodle.ning.com Sorry!!!! Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 28 Nov 2010, at 18:43, Matt Stevens wrote: > Loooping online tonight with > > Steve Moyes, Rare Bear and Justin Schroder first act in 15 mins 7pm > UK time > > Thank you > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > --Apple-Mail-19--869816088 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII at www.cafenoodle.ning.com
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Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 28 Nov 2010, = at 18:43, Matt Stevens wrote:

Loooping = online tonight with 

Steve Moyes, Rare Bear and = Justin Schroder first act in 15 mins 7pm UK = time

Thank you 

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com



=


= --Apple-Mail-19--869816088-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 19:20:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99DB13BE95; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1290972022; bh=mYYyIpjUbfJERVS9s8sjMCSz+lBCQbg99QMLB51z6XE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J06fXtlPCA0KFtgAGa3upI8Jd0DE+s+Wn9MYraJY+TilcDUu5ZpaWMnFHwWaEz9bHZKhauNiR3jFP8NJGdAbf/yqBQ05R8AaZEn7XNyhDzCffh0Ck42K7VXrwuSMpjjUsgwo/YLMS2hhMxghM56oXzbVLZQlSUn2CdG5Oh4St5g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YgflL4P0xoCEqxs9XL2/f2elNRCJtUzuBUfxotdiSUd+R0ABoKFKDYPf07E20KR4/QEbCAvCKNPRcCWpsc1Ds0dUk1uYpOHrEYLYDz9Hkz6xmnvMSlhPcIur5j3PIVf946dzTEYolWTgvkUeEpw5M9xt5f3+00XA/6LKDYqoo5o=; Message-ID: <562176.67087.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: yVt8z4UVM1lDIAQqRXLXxUypntfuGgY20EUREKi2DpJFlDD yRkylljT6aK8PnPBkaXLz2Bkc0zrE8VRvW7s5gHPU61LRu4WGV2sU4iIZMKP cNZbbwlJ7OWMy.N41iVW6EcfdS7b1dW66e7mMIpkoxwwIg.fRlVFCr2dvOyb a4Yb.LiyFXMc8ufRghjxc.CySWVVOD4HiKMsRfiKnfym4J6yaHSW.uFSqDrq IN0JQm9uTc2ToBF6HQvpNDvf_mIUUjeU8we7NoOY9wuzGU._3urzmmE.HQJI gP.s1L6MyomFQ203mPp3aTUWle_BrbZkP7MoMRMrRhdOMdyRublwT2TuqT2L 6jufiWg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.9 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:20:22 -0800 (PST) From: ditch wrestler Subject: OT: pedalboards To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1500014097-1290972022=:67087" Resent-Message-ID: <8IZVpD.A.XBE.3tq8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:20:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-1500014097-1290972022=:67087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm attempting to organize the mess and knot of wires & cables at my feet. If anybody has any experiences they'd like to share, it'd be appreciated.= =A0 Especially looking for people's opinion on powered boards vs. non-power= ed w/separate power units. I'm looking for something to hold 4-8 pedals with enough space and juice fo= r two Line 6 modelling pedals.=A0 Reading and seeing varying reports on the= milliamps issues of two Line 6 modellers on deck. The early leader is the SKB Stagefive it has a lid and easily portable. ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog =0A=0A --0-1500014097-1290972022=:67087 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =

I'm attempting to organize the mess and k= not of wires & cables at my feet.

If anybody has any experiences= they'd like to share, it'd be appreciated.  Especially looking for pe= ople's opinion on powered boards vs. non-powered w/separate power units.
I'm looking for something to hold 4-8 pedals with enough space and jui= ce for two Line 6 modelling pedals.  Reading and seeing varying report= s on the milliamps issues of two Line 6 modellers on deck.

The early= leader is the SKB Stagefive it has a lid and easily portable.


t= ed.

Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog


--0-1500014097-1290972022=:67087-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 19:28:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25C633BEC0; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1507 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:28:21 UTC Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20101128104239.3C2963BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: best software strings Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:03:06 -0800 References: <20101128104239.3C2963BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:28:22 +0000 (UTC) i haven't researched this much but I was completely blown away by a demo of the Vienna Strings library at NAMM 2 years ago. their basic bundle starts at $265.00 plus $36.00 for the necessary dongle key. I assume I was hearing the full suite of sounds which can get really expensive., which is what I would want if price were no object. I believe as you get the more expensive packages, the level of articulation goes up, the nuance of bowing techniques, etc, and I assume the cpu drain gets pretty heavy. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 19:30:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E75BA3BEC1; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KwCuHhwHMnjVOLO5fvYMkLVxcs479gFnL7feJuEGE1A=; b=arKbQ7APnoTAZNRR1mS7G3xRk5gmM/7D6vX/bNWvoJGEUMSNk+GPAjpoDyNAphcXHK PUubB/grUbh2xBRVCMulk1JHkbYyACeM3H5hw6u4fSvRS+wyZsGNh1IdiQh3UUGPM8PM Ix12nnzEK+Pau5zFJRftO1V1+A1AMv9rqIfR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MTU2qUNWw4dqzsvhcYPh/OoJuXbGQx/0hcm52wJqTJmebTbMqB4pNy8iL96Y1bN2i0 pfL/3HkzUqfysbMgy2NU/a8gujCyf3RVaMqTrQTdPzvK2LvXVlM8AePKCkmGm5mDxA0I 2Ki4M3e/NFZ35aoCzV49HBMzKCfXdE0Ib5dUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:30:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Virtual Gig: Steve Moyes LIVE right now on CafeNoodle From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b1a3dbcad8049621fcb9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:30:28 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b1a3dbcad8049621fcb9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks Steve Moyes is doing live looping via Mobius till 3pm EST on http://CafeNoodle.Ning.com. Jim --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001636c5b1a3dbcad8049621fcb9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks Steve Moyes is doing live looping via Mobius till 3pm EST on http://CafeNoodle.Ning.com.

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--001636c5b1a3dbcad8049621fcb9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 20:41:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A26DF3BE87; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SjqeQZ9COEXq+feplDWZEuz0PCHJ7FFYZXnahEbszpQ=; b=e3WZAziw3y7EXZSRwJYCdA45Eq4KTyo6vAD8DJLiaGKhLZXD1e2QsRN4KeB6fiymOQ YWgF7V5wt2TbMS7T+Kr/I4OxbOLg/tSn0QCBNfBF+UuW3fSGeXGHd1qJ5y3c0R8ChLF4 CddRbQHR2JwZm4sNCMgr2aY4xIP/gYBhS0fFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PRFagL0CWSLyvYtvNag7Wob3S7dOtuMHyRrX6V2/W3QDaDEnRmD5jYTT3C4g5lVwt1 zoMnm0yJunJsZoaG2bRZhr81mn0APTqE+4zIGxNBkkjAyCB1j9vYb5SrQW4dhMCrjIWZ 0/nX36X47Q+CDFrtngkOrqxnkKYwBaJo/Mb+g= Message-ID: <4CF2BE83.9090707@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:41:39 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: best software strings References: <20101128104239.3C2963BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4nPfN.A.6jG.L6r8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:41:47 +0000 (UTC) William Walker schrieb: > i haven't researched this much but I was completely blown away by a > demo of the Vienna Strings library at NAMM 2 years ago. their basic > bundle starts at $265.00 plus Is that the same product line as the "Vienna Symphonic Library", obviously in parts included in Kontakt/Komplete? http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/kontakt-4/?page=970 Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 21:36:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB4513BE8B; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8FAA9a8kxHq+9F/2dsb2JhbACUe44BwWKFRwSEXIkU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,272,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="78087157" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <562176.67087.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: pedalboards Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:38:11 -0600 References: <562176.67087.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:36:00 +0000 (UTC) I don't know what your budget is, but I went ahead and spent the money to have Rooster at Trailer Trash Pedalboards wire my board up for me. Best decision I ever made gear wise. I knew it wouldn't be cheap, but it's done right, and the board is dead silent. The power supplies are mounted under the board, too. I have pics, if you are interested. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 21:59:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5FA63BE89; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8FADdf8kxHq+9F/2dsb2JhbACUeo4BwWGFRwSEXIkU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,272,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="78292289" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: pedalboards Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:01:49 -0600 References: <562176.67087.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <9FBT3C.A.eS.ODt8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:59:42 +0000 (UTC) I was just browsing the Trailer Trash site (trailertrashpedalboards.com), and, much to my surprise, my board is actually featured on the Pro Series boards page: http://www.trailertrashpedalboards.com/proseries_scroll.htm Scroll down to the 36" x 18" and 40" x "18" boards. That's *my* board. :) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 22:01:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC80E3BE87; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=QGsfE41OuAZFMIA7qcdwHY6oZVsxYKhNjthSpk0gG6I=; b=h4jd0ZE2tzcR83nw/x7JwYYAFR7huMviPIKdy+ffTXXvslXAB5VtS27AW263XQ7RW4 KKxBCUZdGSYk7NThwR1McQ6+VItW4uh99BsAQu3wn3keJgHazhXUtVp0dsoIbreDiggE CiQY2rXqgSFm8sm0H+EnN71kUBIfUTfcUVes8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=la7YbzlUadrvUHPR5Hy7dFRa53WHVZ25jXG5oIgzHwlp7UAwm6pHAICjG8a0cprHdc upAoXYBK/F6rlbkWX1yyaGoLsJK63uAqCFHeRNZE2gcTqGatqVJBRgYwiAFbqYSzStoe IHDfTHFqs7dCEtqx2BBDgC+6BowYce3ybu0/w= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:01:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: New RC-50 looping video from Canada To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485eba1e894760b0496241971 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:01:39 +0000 (UTC) --001485eba1e894760b0496241971 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrQUomj_Hgo I just posted this video (it was shot last year) online. Acoustic guitar, theremin, and voice (mostly for effects) - through an RC-50, affected by a KP3, with some drum samples on an MPC 500. A studio recording is on my 2007 EP, but the video is from my 2009 CD/DVD "Windows and Doors" Enjoy, would love to hear your thoughts. -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 Check out the brand new video for "You"! www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QnxUgGQPc --001485eba1e894760b0496241971 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just posted this = video (it was shot last year) online.

Acoustic guitar, t= heremin, and voice (mostly for effects) - through an RC-50, affected by a K= P3, with some drum samples on an MPC 500.

A studio recording is on my 2007 EP, but the video is from my 2009 CD/D= VD "Windows and Doors"

<= /font>
Enjoy, would= love to hear your thoughts.

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376

Check out= the brand new video for "You"!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7Qn= xUgGQPc
--001485eba1e894760b0496241971-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 22:52:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 292063BE89; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:52:03 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0a93b1c8-c582-4061-b3f1-e0d5fdea24d6_" X-Originating-IP: [151.21.165.249] From: andrea trabucco To: Subject: RE: New RC-50 looping video from Canada Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 23:47:02 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2010 22:47:02.0933 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CA39450:01CB8F4E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:52:04 +0000 (UTC) --_0a93b1c8-c582-4061-b3f1-e0d5fdea24d6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice stuff man!! especially liked the beginning of the drums groove=2C where the guitar part= s took life.=20 by the way=2C what's the red tubular structure? Is it a portable one? thank you=2C all the best.=20 Andrea=20 From: j.de.roover@gmail.com Date: Sun=2C 28 Nov 2010 17:01:18 -0500 Subject: New RC-50 looping video from Canada To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DzrQUomj_Hgo I just posted this video (it was shot last year) online. Acoustic guitar=2C theremin=2C and voice (mostly for effects) - through an = RC-50=2C affected by a KP3=2C with some drum samples on an MPC 500. A studio recording is on my 2007 EP=2C but the video is from my 2009 CD/DVD= "Windows and Doors" Enjoy=2C would love to hear your thoughts. --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 Check out the brand new video for "You"! www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc = --_0a93b1c8-c582-4061-b3f1-e0d5fdea24d6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice stuff man!!
especially liked the beginning of the drums groove=2C w= here the guitar parts took life.
by the way=2C what's the red tubular s= tructure? Is it a portable one?
thank you=2C
all the best.
Andrea=

From: j.de.roover@gmail.com
Date: Sun= =2C 28 Nov 2010 17:01:18 -0500
Subject: New RC-50 looping video from Can= ada
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


I just posted this vid= eo (it was shot last year) online.

Acoustic guitar=2C th= eremin=2C and voice (mostly for effects) - through an RC-50=2C affected by = a KP3=2C with some drum samples on an MPC 500.

A studio recording is on my 2007 EP=2C but the video is from my 2= 009 CD/DVD "Windows and Doors"

<= /span>
Enjoy= =2C would love to hear your thoughts.

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376

Check out= the brand new video for "You"!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc
= --_0a93b1c8-c582-4061-b3f1-e0d5fdea24d6_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 23:19:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B49C83BE8A; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 23:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=FYw8AGhneKwm9dlbUn/OdnNDD8G0SHqJ4SqnDh5xo6U=; b=UwF5af1aGHnN3uazdAzkruIksBH9kdn8sUxYZwcJLRogm/diXwjP+illTVjjHQp8Uj 4QfCKUKqsq3wnKteNBlGA61tOKBy5Y1gJmTAVHVEFyimQD68g+ilZfwbGzIfh+UkxbSw HCcniKZfutRmsYjtIb0FMRdkfn0eTVdy0J2C4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=YqfS33zEfxeqU7JkXwC19zHyRg3OS2Yc7y4vkwIz9fReR8J4U7Bj8tv8+PfAXGYMGD vM4TI2Em435jXTMeONQx/6uOxwyRwhx30JaGK5ioilXuJM70etNFVlf9E4CdWvOEPtWt Mb/v1xTd7fXBsvPW+KJKG6j880xFZGRaSQhlc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:19:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New RC-50 looping video from Canada To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485eba1e842087c04962530f4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 23:19:35 +0000 (UTC) --001485eba1e842087c04962530f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's actually a german play-toy I've had since I was 7. It's called Quadro, and you can build any structure you like with it. It's also very lightweight. So I've created stage/table set ups so that I don't have to rely on bar stools/tables when I play live. Plus it adds a neat visual! I've also just purchased some rope lighting to feed through it to make the whole set up glow! Glad you liked the video! On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 5:47 PM, andrea trabucco < andrea.trabucco@hotmail.com> wrote: > nice stuff man!! > especially liked the beginning of the drums groove, where the guitar parts > took life. > by the way, what's the red tubular structure? Is it a portable one? > thank you, > all the best. > Andrea > > ------------------------------ > From: j.de.roover@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:01:18 -0500 > Subject: New RC-50 looping video from Canada > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrQUomj_Hgo > > I just posted this video (it was shot last year) online. > > Acoustic guitar, theremin, and voice (mostly for effects) - through an > RC-50, affected by a KP3, with some drum samples on an MPC 500. > > A studio recording is on my 2007 EP, but the video is from my 2009 CD/DVD > "Windows and Doors" > > Enjoy, would love to hear your thoughts. > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 > > Check out the brand new video for "You"! > www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QnxUgGQPc > -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 Check out the brand new video for "You"! www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QnxUgGQPc --001485eba1e842087c04962530f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's actually a german play-toy I've had since I was 7. =A0It's= called Quadro, and you can build any structure you like with it. =A0It'= ;s also very lightweight. =A0So I've created stage/table set ups so tha= t I don't have to rely on bar stools/tables when I play live. =A0Plus i= t adds a neat visual! =A0I've also just purchased some rope lighting to= feed through it to make the whole set up glow!

Glad you liked the video!

= On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 5:47 PM, andrea trabucco <andrea.trabucco@hotmail.com&= gt; wrote:
nice stuff man!!
especially liked the beginning of the drums groove, whe= re the guitar parts took life.
by the way, what's the red tubular s= tructure? Is it a portable one?
thank you,
all the best.
Andrea <= br>
From: j.= de.roover@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:01:18 -0500
Subject= : New RC-50 looping video from Canada
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com



I just posted this video (it was shot l= ast year) online.

Acoustic guitar, theremin, and voice (mostly for effects) - = through an RC-50, affected by a KP3, with some drum samples on an MPC 500.<= /div>

A studio recording is on my 2007 EP, but the video is fr= om my 2009 CD/DVD "Windows and Doors"

Enjoy, would love to hear your thoughts.

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376

Check out= the brand new video for "You"!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7Qn= xUgGQPc



--
Jean-Paul De Roover
= www.jeanpauld= eroover.com
(807) 251-3376

Check out the brand new video for = "You"!
= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc
--001485eba1e842087c04962530f4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 28 23:59:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B98C93BE88; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 23:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:content-type :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=oz88TJ7EAryjuN00ZGKyLuKCHi3/zVJbSkvtqbQ6Lnk=; b=qwHsZavyL/wc3FCoYUX1VoTKlYm8GObqoCKehRXxb3AQUMmPcSHtrvQTQ9gNPSrtFY s/VfaQZlrAsaJ6m0LY6LJkifstiW0qIp21WbJllkDi4rYwu591D5i4IoA8RPWT3R1kyj A1sBzINycqriLnDKS/Zl582w8Hw+Iv/DczdLQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:x-mailer; b=jL9JqilPXpYxbunMn+YyLNL8xDnepjxKX5XtdBoCSuLAS5U22qe7zXvUVMmMAzzZtp 34V0ft7mY1cjgT6dnq0bClZu6OmAvfOWURPH6imra/PO0NKQXHcmpt5wvsKRk6UXQBJg JntX2LAviNQkYu7kJAb1RSyp3QYZKxbYWkrgY= Subject: updating from Loop3 to Loop4 From: 3vcos Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <0CDA521A-AFA5-4C7C-B6A6-4FAFD1044618@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:59:00 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 23:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Does anyone know if its possible to get an update for an EDP? I am running Loop3 v5.0 and want to get Loop4 (whatever the latest = version of 4 is) The website seems to be down. http://www.aurisis.com/ If they are no longer selling updates can anyone point me in the = direction of a service center that could help? Thanks!= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 00:04:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 740B33BE8A; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 00:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: New RC-50 looping video from Canada Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:04:37 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.151.136.167 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32945-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD5D70255FD8F0-1274-3503C@webmail-d043.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 00:04:51 +0000 (UTC) jean-paul.....dense energy to say the least!.....that was fun.....more=20 please!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DzrQUomj_Hgo Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 Check out the brand new video for "You"! www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 00:20:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C20F13BE88; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 00:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_1290990012218571" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Showalter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:20:12 -0500 Subject: Re: OT: pedalboards X-Originating-Ip: 72.188.15.122 X-Originating-Server: c-in3ws--03-03.sv2.lotusliveops.com X-Ob-Auth: folkstone57:operamail.com@operamail.com Message-Id: <20101129002012.5ADBA15F022@c-in3ws--03-03.sv2.lotuslive.com> X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=PulfmWnd7sdvC6SfiC25Z3KSmhV4MYmudYUa95u8QsY= c=1 sm=1 a=z86hs4bwBEQA:10 a=y1OxAYyqkOV/ifp8Z859+A==:17 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=jLbM8sejAAAA:8 a=A7Wvaz8EAAAA:8 a=Uz0uuQTeojRBlrtyJWoA:9 a=9prTmz5951DGPPjqbIUA:7 a=sLYKK4qSpaeOarRmnDRbVjbuTPkA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=-y-x6UcKAAAA:8 a=qKknY0LaEypYij9L4nQA:9 a=PCLcOvWddVICiQToag4A:7 a=LvQgT2qFBT_IHXfdnB1Ss4DqeykA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=WkljmVdYkabdwxfqvArNOQ==:117 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 00:20:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_1290990012218571 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, I don't think there's reall;y any decision to make on the PS for a pedalboard. Except for those pedals that you MUST use a seperate PS, like the EHX English Muffin which uses an AC output, a single PS is the only way to go unless you have just a few pedals. I have a GigRig PS which is just amazing,, especially the 5 watt output capacity. I'm getting a Rocktron Patchmate to do my switching, & for now I'm using a shelf from a plastic DIY shelf from Home Depot because it's very light, inexpensive & I can put pedals on both sides of the board. I put pedals that I don't have to adjust on the bottom of the shelf along with the PS. This also helps keep patch cables short & out of the way, since I can put 2 pedals that are always connected together on either side of the shelf. Also, once the whole thing is finhished, I'll get some bulk cable & make the cables to length for the patches & of course, to & from the Patchmate. ----- Original Message ----- From: ditch wrestler To: Loopers Delight Subject: OT: pedalboards Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:20:22 -0800 (PST) I'm attempting to organize the mess and knot of wires & cables at my feet. If anybody has any experiences they'd like to share, it'd be appreciated.=A0 Especially looking for people's opinion on powered boards vs. non-powered w/separate power units. I'm looking for something to hold 4-8 pedals with enough space and juice for two Line 6 modelling pedals.=A0 Reading and seeing varying reports on the milliamps issues of two Line 6 modellers on deck. The early leader is the SKB Stagefive it has a lid and easily portable. ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog Mark Showalter Minden Jot! myspace.com/folkstone57 http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter[IMAGE] --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com --_----------=_1290990012218571 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello,

I don't think there's reall;y any decision = to make on the PS for a pedalboard. Except for those pedals that you MUST u= se a seperate PS, like the EHX English Muffin which uses an AC output, a si= ngle PS is the only way to go unless you have just a few pedals. I have a G= igRig PS which is just amazing,, especially the 5 watt output capacity. I'm= getting a Rocktron Patchmate to do my switching, & for now I'm using a= shelf from a plastic DIY shelf from Home Depot because it's very light, in= expensive & I can put pedals on both sides of the board. I put pedals t= hat I don't have to adjust on the bottom of the shelf along with the PS. Th= is also helps keep patch cables short & out of the way, since I can put= 2 pedals that are always connected together on either side of the shelf. A= lso, once the whole thing is finhished, I'll get some bulk cable & make= the cables to length for the patches & of course, to & from the Pa= tchmate.


----- Original Message -----
From: ditch wrestler
To: Loopers Delight
Subject: OT: pedalboards
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:20:22 -0800 (PST)

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--_----------=_1290990012218571-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 00:28:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EA313BE8A; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 00:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 00:28:11 UTC Message-Id: From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New RC-50 looping video from Canada Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:21:28 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 00:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Beyond the technical aspects, what I enjoyed most was the passion behind your work. You "go after it." You "go there" to your muse. I'll stop the quotation marks now : ), but seriously, that's what I take most from this video. Ok, one technical question - I'd be interested to know what you used for your "bass line" effect on your acoustic guitar. Thanks for posting and sharing, John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 01:06:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6B9B3BE8C; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hafP-S4oSAUA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=IOdme7tL0zgy3Lq8Q0kA:9 a=Seu9HWy8yHdk2riLplEXrRXDg3UA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <672DA3CC-8970-4573-9899-C65D8D1DF0F9@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4CF00EFA.4040707@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: DEVI-EVER BIT MANGLER GOING ON EBAY IN ABOUT 5 MINUTES Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:06:51 -0800 References: <4CF00EFA.4040707@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <43oiYD.A.rpE.yyv8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:06:58 +0000 (UTC) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330499351508&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_1156 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 01:11:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB8AA3BE8C; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <86B56528-A633-44E9-9EBE-6400EFE06FAC@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--846714598 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: best software strings Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:11:37 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <801DgD.A.OyE.Q3v8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:11:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--846714598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit William Walker schrieb: > i haven't researched this much but I was completely blown away by a > demo of the Vienna Strings library at NAMM 2 years ago. their basic > bundle starts at $265.00 plus Is that the same product line as the "Vienna Symphonic Library", obviously in parts included in Kontakt/Komplete? http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/kontakt-4/? page=970 Rainer Not sure, saw it in in a Sweetwater catalogue as Vienna Ensemble Pro, but the libraries start at $400 and go up. Bill --Apple-Mail-1--846714598 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
William Walker schrieb:
i haven't researched this much but I was completely blown away by a demo of the Vienna Strings library at NAMM 2 years ago.  their basic bundle starts at $265.00 plus
Is that the same product line as the "Vienna Symphonic Library", obviously in parts included in Kontakt/Komplete?
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/kontakt-4/?page=970

        Rainer

 Not sure,  saw it in in a Sweetwater catalogue as Vienna Ensemble Pro, but the libraries start at $400 and go up.
Bill
--Apple-Mail-1--846714598-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 02:10:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5278C3BE89; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 02:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=kdSDtRLNBdSjZHnh3XnWBzUsYioRkUIcxg530vmYnFw=; b=vA0V9J9OjCJ1FtSIS8bzfgJmt9Gtgf5OsAUxMkQFGS3s1xQau9KA4plZkSD+RI9gXv Ktio4vMevLmqCVw8dwA6Q877dNYlF5MI38qjBQOh5yQtBozoYqpH7Jl49hkKN9QKP0wB apx7xmaxkZi6AeC6txr4lU5XR3toOYe24PTho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=KZOixIFKWbNDzrpLAR4zy7FImnuY80/ndw0iRbXeTgjyc68DXnXN6U2Q5OPJCokGzN SpQaLX9Xxd1ysi2CREdONw8kYSK0N8oQLU9C40np5prwHBd1uTwKvi0SOF7rhzsBQcld kJPgTfRRIrNJ/MRkanPWoF9nX/wMkgO52kl98= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:09:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New RC-50 looping video from Canada To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555145ad1476204962792f8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 02:10:20 +0000 (UTC) --00032555145ad1476204962792f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's an old Fender from the early 80's (Japanese made). What I did was installed a Shadow pickup into it (where you can blend micro/piezo), and removed the microphone portion (it messes with really loud loops). The pickup itself has a control installed in the soundhole where you can adjust treble bass. I always had the treble at around 90%, and the bass at 80%. When bass was needed, I'd crank it up to 100% and then the low E string would sound like a bass! No other effects needed. I've tried a similar setup on other guitars, and no such luck. I've since bought a nice Canadian made Larivee, and since it doesn't have a boom-y low end, I purchased a Morpheus DropTune (which I set to pitch shift an octave 50/50 with the original signal), then into a Boss EQ pedal to boost the lows and the overall volume (slightly), and that's how I get my bass tones now. You can really hear it when I play big venues with lots of low frequency response. I don't have any videos with it yet, but I've got some other vids coming down the pipe in the next while! On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 7:21 PM, john floridis wrote: > Beyond the technical aspects, what I enjoyed most was the passion behind > your work. You "go after it." You "go there" to your muse. I'll stop the > quotation marks now : ), but seriously, that's what I take most from this > video. > > Ok, one technical question - I'd be interested to know what you used for > your "bass line" effect on your acoustic guitar. > > Thanks for posting and sharing, > John > > -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 Check out the brand new video for "You"! www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QnxUgGQPc --00032555145ad1476204962792f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's an old Fender from the early 80's (Japanese made). =A0What I= did was installed a Shadow pickup into it (where you can blend micro/piezo= ), and removed the microphone portion (it messes with really loud loops). = =A0The pickup itself has a control installed in the soundhole where you can= adjust treble bass. =A0I always had the treble at around 90%, and the bass= at 80%. =A0When bass was needed, I'd crank it up to 100% and then the = low E string would sound like a bass! =A0No other effects needed. =A0I'= ve tried a similar setup on other guitars, and no such luck.

I've since bought a nice Canadian made Larivee, and sinc= e it doesn't have a boom-y low end, I purchased a Morpheus DropTune (wh= ich I set to pitch shift an octave 50/50 with the original signal), then in= to a Boss EQ pedal to boost the lows and the overall volume (slightly), and= that's how I get my bass tones now. =A0You can really hear it when I p= lay big venues with lots of low frequency response. =A0

I don't have any videos with it yet, but I've g= ot some other vids coming down the pipe in the next while!

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 7:21 PM, john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com= > wrote:
Beyond the technical aspects, what I enjoye= d most was the passion behind your work. =A0You "go after it." = =A0You "go there" to your muse. =A0I'll stop the quotation ma= rks now : ), but seriously, that's what I take most from this video.
Ok, one technical question - I'd be interested to know what you used fo= r your "bass line" effect on your acoustic guitar.

Thanks for posting and sharing,
John




--
Jean-Paul De Roo= ver
www.je= anpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376

Check out the brand new vid= eo for "You"!
= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc
--00032555145ad1476204962792f8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 02:51:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0809A3BE84; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 02:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kQJmGS0USnwJZToNx3/A4mMeiZX+qVkXUliQjH0425M=; b=O2DUMmWlACECivG7qYln9I4+GZOzVfDtMVlqKMXbPi156SbfTpkkJ0rk+bQ4A7gxex IKky14Zmawe3BGA16N0vxT+i4wGm7ozSp3zjAAL1clkVQKYfgFNvXgN3+4FcJBHcB8DW j5bmBOfwiatNPqxXf0nSf/u8GiVGG0aoA/uK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aq6vGSYZme+cOJehHSitowr6L/dxltxnUZ52GQrYSu1A+iS+f7zb218sSAzaFVy6Pd g9L1DpNhHpdPiPRRy1ijVsNdyJ+nO/1A07Ly34rgheotnmtnN135/L7UfXgP8lO/3DJz 1OfmiEr37ErR4w7B5HWDVgDaL5OUq4dEPrgjI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0CDA521A-AFA5-4C7C-B6A6-4FAFD1044618@gmail.com> References: <0CDA521A-AFA5-4C7C-B6A6-4FAFD1044618@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:51:02 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: updating from Loop3 to Loop4 From: "Nobody's Pants" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f585878086049628246e Resent-Message-ID: <8ICor.A.73G.WUx8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 02:51:02 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f585878086049628246e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 aurisis.com was up and running just a couple days ago, and I bought Loop IV from Andy Ewen a few months back. If the site doesn't come back up shortly, I could put you in touch with him directly. Jeff On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:59 PM, 3vcos wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know if its possible to get an update for an EDP? > I am running Loop3 v5.0 and want to get Loop4 (whatever the latest version > of 4 is) > > The website seems to be down. http://www.aurisis.com/ > > If they are no longer selling updates can anyone point me in the direction > of a service center that could help? > > Thanks! > --00163630f585878086049628246e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable aurisis.com was u= p and running just a couple days ago, and I bought Loop IV from Andy Ewen a= few months back.=A0 If the site doesn't come back up shortly, I could = put you in touch with him directly.

Jeff




On Sun, Nov 28, 2010= at 3:59 PM, 3vcos <perfectsoundmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone know if its possible to get an update for an EDP?
I am running Loop3 v5.0 and want to get Loop4 (whatever the latest version = of 4 is)

The website seems to be down. =A0http://www.aurisis.com/

If they are no longer selling updates can anyone point me in the direction = of a service center that could help?

Thanks!

--00163630f585878086049628246e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 08:39:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 781BC3BE89; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FEv+LxloeXLwUVh/h/IrNt9UnYzKrAfVv9NUfNi5b+c=; b=JNoyBh48lv1Yi/cXy1SkqXi4ekzytoFyri9bkfFd1OqodyMhpMwun848Gzv3FiYE6L Qic1hIuz1KvS1g+piVo9r1f2feYo00qVMFbkZqyRpv6OGdOd7kuRwzrjrEwJjiAJiOWE AxCn1VeDffNBF1hhy9rL4FKyJtmJ3jHb2F/hs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZzCXap89nD3bQW04ceblVW36R4hDiZxJgGCyCzKl2RxVOLlEi1vv2FDLEOfsR5A30k HHL9ez5GFn0CQ+OU63sxyXa75N1Y44hoWMEyCKiXKiFQU/HMsLqS1azSm4PmN7zehC71 xzmPn25fxXjOLSkyhuBHpGUmO15NVRFEgTiVo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 00:39:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Matt's band Tiny Owl at bandcamp From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:39:19 +0000 (UTC) While we're only a week behind the bandcamp discussion, I just posted some new clips of a practice session on the bandcamp page for my band Tiny Owl. This is a new endeavor for me - an attempt to play in a band, making music closer to rock. Specifically, it's more of an improvised experimental space rock sort of thing. The band has 2 electronic musicians (1 drum machine, 1 laptop), a standup bass player and a drummer. These are very rough cuts - mostly recorded through an open-air flash recorder. It's not intended to be a cd release or anything, but I'm excited enough about this project to want to share each time I'm able to post a couple tracks. http://tinyowl.bandcamp.com -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 09:04:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F8B83BE86; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pnsji4PQnXQP/gZBsWH9Zo3gsCy8sxt1QwUohvUylBQ=; b=J3SLcCNAHNK4Sg4LvnpvUmlEXUphxtYJjz0LKsICt91ZWJACHWAVtYQT7cJdIxDrvK Jbfvhe7mthl0MR63iwDESDRVh8zbbJitKuUbuZjrjpA58ecSwv239Strujbj51ul6LYU Yed+cfnfA9NzvWC8q4+44Ic7vXy4Y4+dlxsK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MDblQ8q8bBUkkO0tSJlbp24pDaUNnGR23RNem3KznhMAStM14tSoNTknENnIPmvYE1 xAxt103v/hs3trCdsD0ZYOy1nj8giqpKiVM39AMBHDuxbzRJgmGbfrf4F5KK8hCAR0Fb rXUSXOpr8q/rl8+aHdiQHlCvZlyOdCJQIO5oA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:04:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Matt's band Tiny Owl at bandcamp From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:04:26 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > These are very rough cuts - mostly recorded through an open-air flash > recorder. It's not intended to be a cd release or anything, but I'm > excited enough about this project to want to share each time I'm able > to post a couple tracks. > > http://tinyowl.bandcamp.com Listening here while typing. Sounds great! Interesting band setup. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 09:35:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69CEF3BE8C; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rkHv6SN+ogjRo49p2amzqGl5Bdb7tip6tFReNBXYGu8=; b=tnxhpAL2E4at/uB7K97Fe/HhFLvrODUtDelBLFfbelEBV/SejngnYdf1x9CoGXd+t2 27TsxXm30W4udHC+4RpgLPhYCdL6Oe6DtBsTJvrXviHqhMhegAgzew88+N8nRaTtctYs dIVTFOA+7Zjzdx296Y7nS5kX5RzP3Iydaqs/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y6cIZtdwG9pOUZhXVgQSo6D5q7ei0RNYUnmaalLcmg4vL0ySCgOiyJTh6fzySeCKOn R8u57393PNtkAIv4xQjHMGwLq4APwI69eUR9YISxG66QeszQMt770G7bXXL9sCVpLKra M4QzNalbsOgKsdsVwgJND24JzJjmn6/NmfEqo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86B56528-A633-44E9-9EBE-6400EFE06FAC@baymoon.com> References: <86B56528-A633-44E9-9EBE-6400EFE06FAC@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:35:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2GTCYB.A.O6F.dP38MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:35:25 +0000 (UTC) > Is that the same product line as the "Vienna Symphonic Library", obviousl= y > in parts included in Kontakt/Komplete? > http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/kontakt-4/?page= =3D970 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Rainer Kontakt 4 brings a teaser of the Vienna Symph package. It is the same samples also used for the patches in the Vienna Symph Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 10:00:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00F403BE8E; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-AuditID: a22c23ca-b7ca1ae000001777-4c-4cf3870f803d Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: iRig or Peavey Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:00:45 -0000 Message-ID: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F98C15F@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: iRig or Peavey Thread-Index: AcuOneDqOvarLq5ITLy6gCINNwkjuQBDUKiA References: From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2010 10:00:46.0012 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AABEFC0:01CB8FAC] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi Jim, I've used an Irig; was good for messing around with Amplitude, plus you = can use it for the other pedal/amp sims on the app store, but, I did = find that when I hooked it up to an amp, or as part of an effects loop = (I am using an app called everyday looper as a "visual master looper") = there was a lot of distortion and noise as I think there was too much = going through the Irig. I bought an Alesis Protrack a while ago for a more professional sound = and it works great. It's a little bit temperamental occasionally, and I = haven't tested it with the Iphone 4 yet (currently using an iphone 3G); = I "think" Apple have moved some of the Mic/Audio sensors from the bottom = port to the headphone Jack on the Iphone 4.... but this is just info I = have picked up from the web and haven't tested it properly yet. I think = Alesis are brining out a new Protrack quite soon but don't know when. There are loads of Youtube video's of people using the Protrack, check = them out! Best regards,=20 Rob=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com]=20 Sent: 28 November 2010 01:45 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: iRig or Peavey Anybody tried the audio interfaces such as the iRig or Peavey AmpKit = LInk as well as Amplitude app for iPhone/iTouch? Wondering about one = for recording. I have used the iTouch to feed samples into NinJam. Saw = couple of folks Randolf and Massimo use the iPhone for performance tools = at Y2k as well as Eric use an iPad with a controller app. Thx Jim --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. = jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 10:55:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACE813BE8E; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=px0o5F65RgNd3NCgZfYl0DLV/HibYQrPnKcHV3QV57g=; b=tdOPC8p0PLVp+/1mzQZpmJu/KMmyIY5phuSodrqWKCJI59RN7i96eYZIP/uISOyjy5 55ArG/ktjxi3nmyyXphMFOtYGloaNhEBPyZ4F64shHWufNnVeek5LLiC9/mXGWLsaAcI wZCwcglRAiB+eg/9Gov/qDsKPAbZeR6y/2WHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aEm0oJk4Au1y65bXgnREGCSMLVyrcKgXBLIF2vMiNtDn8lXZ5ywf/XyfPKUfPnjm0K J3MR0TlHqojZD2IwvCBw7K6b80x4JE4dgSMBVUvdgzO+UpQOHkR5jf1MK53yyks4B7BX a5m863MzNXQgZalYGKnOp7ll46y2JNpHH32iI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:55:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e645b7f86b03e804962eea39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:55:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016e645b7f86b03e804962eea39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2010/11/28 Per Boysen perboysen@gmail.com > > In the past Miroslav Vitous library has been regarded "the best" by many: > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov10/articles/string-ensembles.htm > > > I gave it a try in the studio of a friend of mine an I have to say that it sounds really great. In case you are planning to use them live, remember that this library and the Vienna String are CPU demanding. -fabio www.eterogeneo.com --0016e645b7f86b03e804962eea39 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2010/11/28 Per Boysen perboysen@gmail.com

In the past Miroslav Vitous = library has been regarded "the best" by many:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov10/articles/string-ensembles.htm<= /a>

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I gave it a try in the studio of a friend of mine an I have to say tha= t it sounds really great.
In case you are planning to use them live, remember that this library = and the Vienna String are CPU demanding.
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-fabio
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--0016e645b7f86b03e804962eea39-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 11:15:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D1993BE95; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4FaW5XmI/RhM+QRlebnYaohEYlokuOh3X8Gue8NKoHo=; b=XpMtcHEoKsRj10826sxUaOADXE+sVDjJJGsuBcVtr/vqyPORkzXoUFhXQKYnNRwGpp Lz5tHGo2JQXgMIvwu2UUflf0tbgL0e0hlaMZkL2yQsdLqLHIQRTPJcrIQuKIDzOT0sS0 BxBog7hJ8o52gmOdU6xsl8dPQoJ3RZERfDlus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=q6TvLZEoLGOe0t2md8jk0gAWvb7pFb4KNLrErNQHj2NwirXhHz280gdLi9MqeOdPCU wYWp/YNlbLpXGduVx1YQOX2aXAD23FI0i057A4cfuzL+Q5hJYO9dRsPXjyiWEKNzjvoV n+QPhzpZJXR31WuBMFJ2Aw67ygOBQpkfudB3c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:15:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New RC-50 looping video from Canada From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e645ad08e1d06f04962f3024 Resent-Message-ID: <-YGo9C.A.QyH.Xt48MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:15:35 +0000 (UTC) --0016e645ad08e1d06f04962f3024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice performance. I enjoyed it a lot. -fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2010/11/28 Jean-Paul De Roover > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrQUomj_Hgo > > I just posted this video (it was shot last year) online. > > Acoustic guitar, theremin, and voice (mostly for effects) - through an > RC-50, affected by a KP3, with some drum samples on an MPC 500. > > A studio recording is on my 2007 EP, but the video is from my 2009 CD/DVD > "Windows and Doors" > > Enjoy, would love to hear your thoughts. > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 > > Check out the brand new video for "You"! > www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QnxUgGQPc > --0016e645ad08e1d06f04962f3024 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice performance. I enjoyed it a lot.
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-fabio
www.eterogeneo.com

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2010/11/28 Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com>=

I just posted this video (it was shot last year) online.=20

Acoustic guitar, theremin, and voice (mostly for effects) - through an= RC-50, affected by a KP3, with some drum samples on an MPC 500.

A studio recording is on my 2007 EP, but the video is from my 2009 CD/= DVD "Windows and Doors"

Enjoy, would love to hear your thoughts.

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) = 251-3376

Check out the brand new video for "You"!
www.youtube.com/w= atch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc

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------=_Part_1147840_432047128.1291029189141-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 13:08:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 816D93BE98; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=22fe6TEedoTaukdzs9wlSHb6K0jkw7YRMqULRlQgq08=; b=mkTaUZZtYBxV8NpIToRYjf1G1irCKPnco+qDE3hO+287HHeWOJUfbcYJ5pjDp9E3ig Fou/3K2wvLI/b263yWoz5jPBg8ZxXobO1+2LsJP+i36H1WUukVQmfqruJSPmz3JMhSUR 3xqIpgIDVmmBM+7hozKCISaEpw78VlyeEOXjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Jv5S21H0J+8706JJcLTh8WsCIWPiQy2u+p+pgUfDVgoTr4SG5Skm/KXIYVdCjmXGAY HdbdYsT4jS+Sgx56TpCp1LSoP0oIk1YXUuGfZKEsnup9WSdXtcr9Vj9Tjt4XLzwjdrNB /fWUapHdQVAlKpJTDonH7anIM3bF4xgQFKItA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <86B56528-A633-44E9-9EBE-6400EFE06FAC@baymoon.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:08:24 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0rJK_V9vOi9jB2yYU_rYLccdF1k Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8f4e9f2d81049630c559 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:08:46 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8f4e9f2d81049630c559 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Do you or anyone else actually HAVE that Kontakt 4 pack... its pretty cheap, and I have been wonderin about it for a while now... but if its just a teaser, how much of a "tease" is it really? Just to expand this thread a little, are there other recommendations for orchestral stuff in general, Im thinking the usual big bang film / game music stuff... YOu know, the usual Carmina Ring cycle Sea Symphony shit... M > Kontakt 4 brings a teaser of the Vienna Symph package. It is the same > samples also used for the patches in the Vienna Symph > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8f4e9f2d81049630c559 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you or anyone else actually HAVE that Kontakt 4 pack... its pretty cheap= , and I have been wonderin about it for a while now... but if its just a te= aser, how much of a "tease" is it really?

Just to expand = this thread a little, are there other recommendations for orchestral stuff = in general, Im thinking the usual big bang film / game music stuff... YOu k= now, the usual Carmina Ring cycle Sea Symphony shit...

M



Kontakt 4 brings a teaser of the Vienna Symph package. It is the same=
samples also used for the patches in the Vienna Symph

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
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--90e6ba6e8f4e9f2d81049630c559-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 14:15:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A4573BEAE; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CW+EzCtKqrzltOo8/ma31Buk8rjSKZ++Eq8+qw0Ge3A=; b=QZOlMu2lBWR+oDnl6EvblwM3J5FKdtFUpJ8xDEIh9XASYq41pcOSa7LdLOdiOPNmtX T3XWuwBjG7pDhAFaESORPcEpWSJ4IXyvqW4T9s5RMTeVmPxOVO15p9UclCfqIO41ggQx AesW7HFV+0r2+PmoSctpdREsyuU7SuxjDgDvM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OtlbvgWRa1c4PgQojPRiLWGbq5ctHVe4RhJ5iTxbE7w3PnpVcIRYyKHEaenononW0A RwROHkUN0aIKjDaUWWIj29zi0j0cEpN1pZLCkB34lFkEWY64dRJLwHI9m0mbA7gQCiMX Sav+hCDy26QDccOqYhBXmAtrLzzBpocc1ZMpc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:15:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers From: Fabio_A To: "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e2051610900049631b3fd Resent-Message-ID: <2T9RdB.A.e5D.yV78MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:15:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e2051610900049631b3fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi there, I decided to buy a monitor speakers system, but have ho idea which model to choose. I'm a newby in this regards, so please let me know your experience. I need monitor speakers *mainly for mixing music* and also to play with myself. I want to connect the speakers straight from the main output of my RME Fireface. I'll use them in my flat, so I don't need a powerfull system, in dB terms. What is really important is to get a "transparent" sound from them. I'd prefer small ones and - why not - not much expensive. Any suggestions ? -fabio www.eterogeneo.com --0016368e2051610900049631b3fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there,
I decided to buy a monitor speakers system, but have ho idea=A0which m= odel to choose.
I'm a newby in this regards, so please let me know your experience= .
=A0
I need monitor speakers=A0mainly for mixing music and also to p= lay with myself.
I want to connect the speakers straight from the main output of my RME= Fireface.
I'll use them in my flat, so I don't need=A0a powerfull system= , in dB terms.
What is really important is to get a "transparent" sound fro= m them.
I'd prefer small ones and - why not -=A0not much expensive.
=A0
Any suggestions ?
=A0
-fabio
=A0
=A0
--0016368e2051610900049631b3fd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 14:17:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 787F63BEA9; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmwGAG9E80xHq+9F/2dsb2JhbACUe44CwzeCaYJeBIRciRQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,276,1288569600"; d="scan'208,217";a="78243468" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--799404806 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:20:07 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:17:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--799404806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A very good choice that won't totally break the bank is Tannoy Reveal. Jeff On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Fabio_A wrote: > Hi there, > I decided to buy a monitor speakers system, but have ho idea which > model to choose. > I'm a newby in this regards, so please let me know your experience. > > I need monitor speakers mainly for mixing music and also to play > with myself. > I want to connect the speakers straight from the main output of my > RME Fireface. > I'll use them in my flat, so I don't need a powerfull system, in dB > terms. > What is really important is to get a "transparent" sound from them. > I'd prefer small ones and - why not - not much expensive. > > Any suggestions ? > > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > --Apple-Mail-8--799404806 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A very good choice that won't = totally break the bank is Tannoy = Reveal.

Jeff

On Nov 29, 2010, = at 8:15 AM, Fabio_A wrote:

Hi = there,
I decided to buy a monitor speakers system, but have = ho idea which model to choose.
I'm a newby in this = regards, so please let me know your experience.
 
=
I need monitor speakers mainly for mixing music and = also to play with myself.
I want to connect the speakers = straight from the main output of my RME Fireface.
I'll use = them in my flat, so I don't need a powerfull system, in dB = terms.
What is really important is to get a "transparent" = sound from them.
I'd prefer small ones and - why not = - not much expensive.
 
Any suggestions = ?
 
-fabio
=
 
=
 

= --Apple-Mail-8--799404806-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 14:43:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 984A83BEAF; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=S66IjDkMDkPMdIQk9cc0CbWqHy6H5omNVk/XGJu/8Nc=; b=NAZyLjBsp8U9Y3x9lSwBrJdKynksKZaUwBFCRHKTjDfWT/wlXibri7ZIOHZu+0ZP2w 96RZ/OurGzll8SpjZ1iq0otJ2X4XqO7ohir81lbHVsfYelHvr8aS/Q1Y+9RXC6ZL9D1c GilMd1/bBtDtjgLYY6hGwppdVli4K6iy8ey2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UEeW3nK4h8diVaUJ/wOyLnmQQNd/gCch59EIBmWhXL3xanKAJNyJHpwnVZ0M/AfCrR M2T2vdMmqB341P8FJHbMlJXFdu6qJ1nBlEdJhC6RwZM9gN+3YrRQfg+w751Nh4RiVHrU SUYfarfN2n3eYSpwACONDav6YUVrJAQDkaTzw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:43:24 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d96786245b6c04963218b8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:43:25 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d96786245b6c04963218b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 genelec 8030a On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > A very good choice that won't totally break the bank is Tannoy Reveal. > > Jeff > > On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Fabio_A wrote: > > Hi there, > I decided to buy a monitor speakers system, but have ho idea which model to > choose. > I'm a newby in this regards, so please let me know your experience. > > I need monitor speakers *mainly for mixing music* and also to play with > myself. > I want to connect the speakers straight from the main output of my RME > Fireface. > I'll use them in my flat, so I don't need a powerfull system, in dB terms. > What is really important is to get a "transparent" sound from them. > I'd prefer small ones and - why not - not much expensive. > > Any suggestions ? > > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > > > --0016e6d96786245b6c04963218b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable genelec 8030a

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:2= 0 PM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:
A very good choice that won't tot= ally break the bank is Tannoy Reveal.

Jeff

On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Fabio_A wrote:

Hi there,
I decided to buy a= monitor speakers system, but have ho idea=A0which model to choose.
<= div>I'm a newby in this regards, so please let me know your experience.=
=A0
I need monitor speakers=A0mainly for mixing music and also to play with myself.
I want to connect the speakers = straight from the main output of my RME Fireface.
I'll use t= hem in my flat, so I don't need=A0a powerfull system, in dB terms.
What is really important is to get a "transparent" sound fr= om them.
I'd prefer small ones and - why not -=A0not much ex= pensive.
=A0
Any suggestions ?
=A0
<= div> -fabio
=A0
=A0


--0016e6d96786245b6c04963218b8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 15:14:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 105F23BEB9; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2304 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:14:44 UTC Message-ID: <4CF3BC42.6080008@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:44:18 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7xJUh.A.GKF.kN88MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:14:44 +0000 (UTC) I fully agree on the Tannoy's. A good friend of mine have used Tannoy's for ages, and resently upgraded to newer Reveal's, saying he can listen on Tannoy's for hours without ear fatique. I'm using a set of Mackie HR624 mk2's, which I'm *very* happy with. Though being the analythic type, they're nonetheless useful for both nearfield monitoring and ordinary media at 3-5 meters distance; everything sounds really good - and for hours ;) Freq response is 21Khz to 37hz -1.5dB; quite impressive for the size. Takes a few days to get them played-in, after which the early impresion of being slightly 'tight' is gone. Before shopping those, I listened to several more expensive brands, but felt some were too over-detailed, to the point of sounding unrealistic. This is surely great for having every single detail revealed, but IMHO also means needing another set of speakers for listening to how it actually sounds in real life; a financially unacceptable choise for me. I'd suggest a visit to the soundonsound.com magazine, and search out varous reviews by Paul White, who's an old rat in this game, and always write in an objective way. Happy shopping! /van Jeff Shirkey wrote: > A very good choice that won't totally break the bank is Tannoy Reveal. > > Jeff > > On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Fabio_A wrote: > >> Hi there, >> I decided to buy a monitor speakers system, but have ho idea which >> model to choose. >> I'm a newby in this regards, so please let me know your experience. >> >> I need monitor speakers mainly for mixing music and also to play with >> myself. >> I want to connect the speakers straight from the main output of my RME >> Fireface. >> I'll use them in my flat, so I don't need a powerfull system, in dB terms. >> What is really important is to get a "transparent" sound from them. >> I'd prefer small ones and - why not - not much expensive. >> >> Any suggestions ? >> >> -fabio >> www.eterogeneo.com -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 15:19:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3E873BEAF; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3CE789B3C5B94BC4B8D305466B1BBB39@bob> From: "patrick dunn" To: Subject: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone? Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:19:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0153_01CB8FD8.C437A4C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18483 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:19:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01CB8FD8.C437A4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all - please forgive what seems to me to be a bit of a dumb = question...but are all you live loopers out there using computers much?? Looking through the Looper's Delight profiles, it looks like most people = are using dedicated hardware; predominantly EDP or similar. Is this = still the case, or is the list out of date? OR...is dedicated hardware = generally just more convenient and reliable?=20 I've been fiddling with live looping - on viola, piano and various other = things - using Ableton for a couple of years now (with Bourne midi = translator and a few other bits 'n pieces) and it sometimes feels like = I'm doing more preparation and programming than playing, but on the = other hand, I just prefer to have everything in one place. Do I need an = EDP? Would that be easier...? Not sure... I'd be grateful for any guidance or thoughts people might have. Thanks Patrick ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01CB8FD8.C437A4C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all - please forgive what seems to = me to be a=20 bit of a dumb question...but are all you live loopers out there using = computers=20 much??
 
Looking through the Looper's Delight = profiles, it=20 looks like most people are using dedicated hardware; predominantly EDP = or=20 similar. Is this still the case, or is the list out of date? OR...is = dedicated=20 hardware generally just more convenient and reliable?
 
I've been fiddling with live looping - = on viola,=20 piano and various other things - using Ableton for a couple of years now = (with=20 Bourne midi translator and a few other bits 'n pieces) and it sometimes = feels=20 like I'm doing more preparation and programming than playing, but on the = other=20 hand, I just prefer to have everything in one place. Do I need an EDP? = Would=20 that be easier...? Not sure...
 
I'd be grateful for any guidance or = thoughts people=20 might have.
 
Thanks
 
Patrick
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0153_01CB8FD8.C437A4C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 15:23:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C17DE3BEA2; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4CF3BC42.6080008@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:23:28 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4CF3BC42.6080008@post.cybercity.dk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:23:31 +0000 (UTC) When I went shopping for monitors a couple years ago, I found myself = surprisingly happy with the M-Audio BX8a's. I forget what else I = listened to, but I found some more expensive brands much more tiring to = listen to. That could, of course, mean that they were actually more = accurate, but I went with the BX8a's and I've been happy. (I just added = the subwoofer.) That said, I've done very little mixing on them. I = basically use them as the monitoring system for the home studio setup = that is largely going straight to two-track. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 15:27:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 688523BEC0; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aCYwNgbIwroNUmHz7lpUUvf1F4HyaP/3luWrfnxafZk=; b=clkX5Fha1NtvU2mfNzqlu5n0jJK5Yp1dhL95Wk231xD2gU0lNTUPg6slobNnGNVni/ LkmT2VmKU72r3hrfJrCMQXTuLSVAYPqCvkRQowZFSifBAynWdBml+64zxMG16komgr/w Q4vk574Fx5YRFoZqxdquIxJzC+eFopmU232R0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=c/l70+wfWlUlkXamphF2w5BlLdpwNcuNcpCB3gFfJ9SXaHkPZlTboG1aqQK/JPa+Wg Js9w8t9d2P5+VcPQKTPWybMCl7Fo4kUQ+sDXJowEJz5qG+G59R0CDkKl6vLyjOMcR4xt 9MHQS3rHJ9xaD1Iarvvy/vyFKzmC+KYxrck8o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CF3BC42.6080008@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:27:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c395e6c7b58049632b59c Resent-Message-ID: <_3nWkD.A.5kF.cZ88MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:27:24 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c395e6c7b58049632b59c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think monitors are something that you should listen to before you buy (if at all possible.) I wound up getting Alesis M1 Actives, which a lot of people really don't like. But, they sounded good to me. Having said that, the Genelecs and Tannoys mentioned get a lot of praise. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > When I went shopping for monitors a couple years ago, I found myself > surprisingly happy with the M-Audio BX8a's. I forget what else I listened > to, but I found some more expensive brands much more tiring to listen to. > That could, of course, mean that they were actually more accurate, but I > went with the BX8a's and I've been happy. (I just added the subwoofer.) That > said, I've done very little mixing on them. I basically use them as the > monitoring system for the home studio setup that is largely going straight > to two-track. > > Mark > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0015174c395e6c7b58049632b59c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think monitors are something that you should listen to before you buy (if= at all possible.)=A0 I wound up getting Alesis M1 Actives, which a lot of = people really don't like.=A0 But, they sounded good to me.=A0 Having sa= id that, the Genelecs and Tannoys mentioned get a lot of praise.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Mark Hambu= rg <mark@grubmah.c= om> wrote:
When I went shopping for monitors a couple years ago, I found myself surpri= singly happy with the M-Audio BX8a's. I forget what else I listened to,= but I found some more expensive brands much more tiring to listen to. That= could, of course, mean that they were actually more accurate, but I went w= ith the BX8a's and I've been happy. (I just added the subwoofer.) T= hat said, I've done very little mixing on them. I basically use them as= the monitoring system for the home studio setup that is largely going stra= ight to two-track.

Mark




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--0015174c395e6c7b58049632b59c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 15:32:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 614673BECC; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1291044725; bh=qW4aPaJqlnzfRn4I8E/RThRdCZVMIXwaU0EvC2UxPrU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P++S0mk9CNP+rdAJcGx+QpyiuDd/GuJPGoSedaWoJ8YWGg8ZPa+X9kUJ2I6DM7bPdKzSu5oJqftsvYwY/qQvR9e/kKAnKT60FCSeVqkb8ZLc4YZz4oEJIl4CpAvC0Txl4rLfd3YLDl5uUDF9BctgQpDElfkvZa6e8MwmZezhNlQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Nm5dddprMXzNnL7b8XxsUr7PklAmU+gfeLft79mpKkTDNsqh8T4zWJYCeVcRgDq10mXMXG19poKrwnEnNHmYbhDA9wOeQtl0UeRFjs8wPvkzqv1kbNoQ7VjCgspC3sS5t9Y5W9EDASNcofB6SPIFKI9nuf0YGXyqhgRx69YgXi8=; Message-ID: <861847.30072.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TypzhkIVM1lki9ocOgaIBjFw5h7YQn_X7bsdvj8M2.FHjIp Q5j836B234Qcc.0zuaVFCLhmWJwOZl3Qb6Hbg0Au3FkmHxt_MpcMxOiQcbwJ Ht2YJWTmIcysrKDpC.jhIKXvR8c0KTt4YM_DvHUv3kyQOO6AAyZtvIyW5FKX oKoISTYMYiLGgo5oKebuaws1MAa9dVejQYSv6Ew2a79VppkkNriC.Ai7RwXj sAFtifrYx4SDpa5O00tdTHvBkajWti7WaKecGKvwPLNgmgco6MTplPm1yUl8 oxDLR0bECWUfo X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <4CF3BC42.6080008@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:32:05 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-310465864-1291044725=:30072" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:32:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-310465864-1291044725=:30072 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii PMC and Dynaudio, Genelecs are compressed to hell... ________________________________ From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 4:27:23 PM Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers I think monitors are something that you should listen to before you buy (if at all possible.) I wound up getting Alesis M1 Actives, which a lot of people really don't like. But, they sounded good to me. Having said that, the Genelecs and Tannoys mentioned get a lot of praise. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: When I went shopping for monitors a couple years ago, I found myself surprisingly happy with the M-Audio BX8a's. I forget what else I listened to, but I found some more expensive brands much more tiring to listen to. That could, of course, mean that they were actually more accurate, but I went with the BX8a's and I've been happy. (I just added the subwoofer.) That said, I've done very little mixing on them. I basically use them as the monitoring system for the home studio setup that is largely going straight to two-track. > >Mark > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0-310465864-1291044725=:30072 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
PMC and Dynaudio, Genelecs are compressed to hell...

From: Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 4:27:23 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers

I think monitors are something that you should listen to before you buy (if at all possible.)  I wound up getting Alesis M1 Actives, which a lot of people really don't like.  But, they sounded good to me.  Having said that, the Genelecs and Tannoys mentioned get a lot of praise.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
When I went shopping for monitors a couple years ago, I found myself surprisingly happy with the M-Audio BX8a's. I forget what else I listened to, but I found some more expensive brands much more tiring to listen to. That could, of course, mean that they were actually more accurate, but I went with the BX8a's and I've been happy. (I just added the subwoofer.) That said, I've done very little mixing on them. I basically use them as the monitoring system for the home studio setup that is largely going straight to two-track.

Mark




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--0-310465864-1291044725=:30072-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 15:32:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 288B13BEDE; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aqDbwPKSttlMYz1DXbOIqrB3kADJxYdfO7f08BbtLDg=; b=M49ekVnaMNZ1q2y5BA8YcFO38YoMPNBDwnninTojPtkADo4RPhl4MoTwwfjYTHUHJh zsK/tRujA0WEZMloUDn8WvbBNBeR/Sar68ZXZz2ewa+5mbRdAty0qdxsMZuxAB11Utyc QWV4BRRkhs7uCL+dwKbYIF78gwStG3mBrLqlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=d+RUYBnVLGOLsEM6xuW1J/QCQFOqXuDj/1PJqk8erTSOBefxLyPi8c5pG1cJWV5qDj tATtZALi0BJgIqqu/4sesN3XRf6neaDeHD37l1+Ufu5DrlEfFZ2I/eeI79dkdvnTaVF9 C2/qG/5sb98hkJS/FRqtAmvD+PnIcxMkm6oJA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <86B56528-A633-44E9-9EBE-6400EFE06FAC@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:32:51 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdd2efd6593049632c8db Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:32:53 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bdd2efd6593049632c8db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 the eastWest stuff is pretty nice - http://www.eastwestsamples.com/ - they were doing a free offer a while ago with a selection of orchestral instruments to try out. dont' know if it's still available. sim On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:08 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Do you or anyone else actually HAVE that Kontakt 4 pack... its pretty > cheap, and I have been wonderin about it for a while now... but if its just > a teaser, how much of a "tease" is it really? > > Just to expand this thread a little, are there other recommendations for > orchestral stuff in general, Im thinking the usual big bang film / game > music stuff... YOu know, the usual Carmina Ring cycle Sea Symphony shit... > > M > > > >> Kontakt 4 brings a teaser of the Vienna Symph package. It is the same >> samples also used for the patches in the Vienna Symph >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > --0015174bdd2efd6593049632c8db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the eastWest stuff is pretty nice - http://www.eastwestsamples.com/ - they were doing a free offer a w= hile ago with a selection of orchestral instruments to try out. dont' k= now if it's still available.

sim

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:08 PM, = mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Do you or anyone else actually HAVE that Kontakt 4 pack... its pretty cheap= , and I have been wonderin about it for a while now... but if its just a te= aser, how much of a "tease" is it really?

Just to expand = this thread a little, are there other recommendations for orchestral stuff = in general, Im thinking the usual big bang film / game music stuff... YOu k= now, the usual Carmina Ring cycle Sea Symphony shit...

M



Kontakt 4 brings a teaser of the Vienna Symph package. It is the same=
samples also used for the patches in the Vienna Symph

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




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www.markf= rancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://= www.looop.no

--0015174bdd2efd6593049632c8db-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 15:36:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 426B33BED2; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wvhMD/4C6NvZ8FgM2TaS2/UkDWaBEOCsbVJYvUA/+IE=; b=GXLQmBl4YS8HS0ksbgmJ1XflN1P6eq5/gfYvN0Yw4Xx+uxqBLyM2EPjFl0BOd05jdy CV2fBXcwxKRt/DVP6ABtnjUme1mvUdZgqs0n1+LKb0hh3f6pArqkVUiqYxWIVsMsurkG 5G1IDs/iz5t9/kjWQD1aT65/a8Jfm3gvPYIhs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=I1TP3XFcNVjJp+9qIPyNiAbrnarcDM5VveZjaOIMTBkVcm8QRPqe8EQnD0Czue8Ozy dUU+ILluFXx58lNEsLPmttyLEPGp4lbibtFGv4kO1YLTX/B/WNPZ8imvK3woU8sxLoCb uL18YBGX9/KsTHaqaKloqFgpdIPeEn71cd2YI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <86B56528-A633-44E9-9EBE-6400EFE06FAC@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:36:12 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175745d6fa479c049632d4ea Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:36:13 +0000 (UTC) --0015175745d6fa479c049632d4ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 here's a link to one of the classical bundles they do. the demos are excellent - http://www.eastwestsamples.com/details.php?cd_index=1122 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > the eastWest stuff is pretty nice - http://www.eastwestsamples.com/ - they > were doing a free offer a while ago with a selection of orchestral > instruments to try out. dont' know if it's still available. > > sim > > > --0015175745d6fa479c049632d4ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here's a link to one of the classical bundles they do. the demos are ex= cellent - http://www.eastwestsamples.com/details.php?cd_index=3D1122
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
the eastWest stuff is pretty nice - http://www.eastwestsamples.com/ - they were doin= g a free offer a while ago with a selection of orchestral instruments to tr= y out. dont' know if it's still available.

sim


<= /div> --0015175745d6fa479c049632d4ea-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 16:01:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7230A3BEF9; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=CUXvSK/LDBysUzRyp3V9APaFI9Sc0H8C7Tcn0D5V0Y4=; b=P+vwkNmLQX4HN+3hxZ5ZXoUVo93RmoLs70gV7CEQzjLAMYlVUId8TfEw75oFytb/z2 ThZlVsuIXDdnCzy50rUEOh/HAjkX02V8wlKmGSHIs8cETiMWHj46dyFadkFEN43egsxa P5xgh6LS1vEj9KRWhIi5Hr7dmZk7nYqTcQk68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=ZQurNPyV66SF8kb9ONEQJPVIpmFhwZAlOLcg+GPeUO+Y4dtPbn+zp64X2pAnIrGkyn 0iOwBb8XE7oEh66XoZ+4dfrERGWrDZNSzvWSeKjzl1ILubIOHc34gxffZp1iPJx0vORq 6I7hiZ6sVZ/gXbihNPfcBjMu1EmtUOLkiEw0o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <861847.30072.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <4CF3BC42.6080008@post.cybercity.dk> <861847.30072.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Charlie M Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:01:00 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30433fd0e3a48e0496332e90 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:01:22 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30433fd0e3a48e0496332e90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 does anybody have anything good to say about the Blue Sky brand monitors? I have been looking around for some monitors as well and the EXO 2.1 system looks like an affordable monitoring solution...can anyone comment on them? Charlie On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:32 AM, wrote: > PMC and Dynaudio, Genelecs are compressed to hell... > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tony K > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Mon, November 29, 2010 4:27:23 PM > *Subject:* Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers > > I think monitors are something that you should listen to before you buy (if > at all possible.) I wound up getting Alesis M1 Actives, which a lot of > people really don't like. But, they sounded good to me. Having said that, > the Genelecs and Tannoys mentioned get a lot of praise. > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > >> When I went shopping for monitors a couple years ago, I found myself >> surprisingly happy with the M-Audio BX8a's. I forget what else I listened >> to, but I found some more expensive brands much more tiring to listen to. >> That could, of course, mean that they were actually more accurate, but I >> went with the BX8a's and I've been happy. (I just added the subwoofer.) That >> said, I've done very little mixing on them. I basically use them as the >> monitoring system for the home studio setup that is largely going straight >> to two-track. >> >> Mark >> >> > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > > --20cf30433fd0e3a48e0496332e90 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable does anybody have anything good to say about the Blue Sky brand monitors? I= have been looking around for some monitors as well and the EXO 2.1 system = looks like an affordable monitoring solution...can anyone comment on them?<= div>

Charlie

On = Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:32 AM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
PMC and Dynaudio, Genelecs are compressed to hell...

From: Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010= 4:27:23 PM
Subject: Re: = OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers

I think monitors are something that you should listen to before you buy (if= at all possible.)=A0 I wound up getting Alesis M1 Actives, which a lot of = people really don't like.=A0 But, they sounded good to me.=A0 Having sa= id that, the Genelecs and Tannoys mentioned get a lot of praise.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Mark Hambu= rg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
When I went shopping for monitors a couple years ago, I found myself surpri= singly happy with the M-Audio BX8a's. I forget what else I listened to,= but I found some more expensive brands much more tiring to listen to. That= could, of course, mean that they were actually more accurate, but I went w= ith the BX8a's and I've been happy. (I just added the subwoofer.) T= hat said, I've done very little mixing on them. I basically use them as= the monitoring system for the home studio setup that is largely going stra= ight to two-track.

Mark




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--20cf30433fd0e3a48e0496332e90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 16:11:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D58D3BF0E; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w7OIEAIWqH8R7gHrCqs87KAUC7vAiIGpf1sLD04ySLI=; b=HainqrDM7KPPEbgkD7Wte+yGjbqzgi/XDTswdStSwklQMLEJZ3okU05w1d1IrAIjE/ 1HlZSbShW4FQ04mG5tl7r3YCDVKM8iNd/Y9I6OG2kr6mBOlR6reZs9lJ2Cn0nqVA331F LMaNqjZ/3F9Vxk7ytkdkSuJcWygTig08xFuDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ncBHVNwWkTClhfOi6gupQ8Ir/fLAi2n9CCtIFmdyWwC3zwXeGgfsiqYjY9DXldL5px eHbmQ8eXWu67WT8reKAVUNDy3LqIDtg15iWadJ0AjaxJk8NiGtQnTBxcinAkgBdDk9dm j66HCZ+zgZEX5bv5keQ0ttgKmH+r+83nL7/WQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CF3BC42.6080008@post.cybercity.dk> <861847.30072.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:11:10 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325556a0a098b6104963352c4 Resent-Message-ID: <7SPtS.A.mqG.hC98MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:11:13 +0000 (UTC) --000325556a0a098b6104963352c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *"Genelecs are compressed to hell..."* Do elaborate! On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Charlie M wrote: > does anybody have anything good to say about the Blue Sky brand monitors? I > have been looking around for some monitors as well and the EXO 2.1 system > looks like an affordable monitoring solution...can anyone comment on them? > > > Charlie > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:32 AM, wrote: > >> PMC and Dynaudio, Genelecs are compressed to hell... >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Tony K >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:* Mon, November 29, 2010 4:27:23 PM >> *Subject:* Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers >> >> I think monitors are something that you should listen to before you buy >> (if at all possible.) I wound up getting Alesis M1 Actives, which a lot of >> people really don't like. But, they sounded good to me. Having said that, >> the Genelecs and Tannoys mentioned get a lot of praise. >> >> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> >>> When I went shopping for monitors a couple years ago, I found myself >>> surprisingly happy with the M-Audio BX8a's. I forget what else I listened >>> to, but I found some more expensive brands much more tiring to listen to. >>> That could, of course, mean that they were actually more accurate, but I >>> went with the BX8a's and I've been happy. (I just added the subwoofer.) That >>> said, I've done very little mixing on them. I basically use them as the >>> monitoring system for the home studio setup that is largely going straight >>> to two-track. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -==-=-=- >> Tony >> >> > --000325556a0a098b6104963352c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Genelecs are compressed to hell..."

Do elaborate!<= br>
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Charlie = M <pilotcp@gmail.= com> wrote:
does anybody have= anything good to say about the Blue Sky brand monitors? I have been lookin= g around for some monitors as well and the EXO 2.1 system looks like an aff= ordable monitoring solution...can anyone comment on them?


Charlie

=
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:32 AM, <an= tonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
PMC and Dynaudio, Genelecs are compressed to hell...

From: Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, November 29, 20= 10 4:27:23 PM
Subject: = Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers

I think monitors are something that you should listen to before you buy (if= at all possible.)=A0 I wound up getting Alesis M1 Actives, which a lot of = people really don't like.=A0 But, they sounded good to me.=A0 Having sa= id that, the Genelecs and Tannoys mentioned get a lot of praise.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Mark Hambu= rg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
When I went shopping for monitors a couple years ago, I found myself surpri= singly happy with the M-Audio BX8a's. I forget what else I listened to,= but I found some more expensive brands much more tiring to listen to. That= could, of course, mean that they were actually more accurate, but I went w= ith the BX8a's and I've been happy. (I just added the subwoofer.) T= hat said, I've done very little mixing on them. I basically use them as= the monitoring system for the home studio setup that is largely going stra= ight to two-track.

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--000325556a0a098b6104963352c4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 17:16:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C36B3BECF; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=j3JqKWobgCMXoTuZB7j9vcdsLnadKSoe8ukE9sycZ3A=; b=v3JUrWXPEauhCtiBP+NfCH7lbHoUvrAAn0+FE9gSN2hArFyLyH5xyTT8or66vWolR0 zHcfdnVbGdYsz8N8aKuoD3Do8LAu3vNCS6A3suLr8WQgnuMV6tMlrAzxwYneKpR4Z6ky 6IXI1DOq7ls1Qb5HaVEJz/T+tzqPgOzWgU09I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=R1Few8v75Eviyk+iUa+H55AG7uCdser6sBGppRg252C8dUv8douHzYGdKfWy1GV+om kITEcWAB5Q7mQggB3IzqCAEdWoiZrxCPuPxaldOYwU35l//ZCGImoBcQ4zXGMavDF6S8 pYXkpQZ24AfpGagHfe5WQ/TXS9YWuRrRfIvhw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:16:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:16:58 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > genelec 8030a That's what I use as well. I can recommend them. This model tends to win or score very high every year in tests of portable monitors. I use a sub bass speaker as an add-on to be able to mix music faster and more accurately. You will hear the lower end pretty well even without the sub woofer, but if you buy the smaller model you will need a sub. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 17:20:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD3D43BEE1; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7NT4eRYV0gWyLkX3HKJPRKCwq2MI7Js7o+YBma4C2A8=; b=KycJp2Ea/8wVWUYzG+NL3/uGTyzIHMn8t+XAZGi8D47Kr2dXaz7XtIydacM8gTAlRs 1hMUkHQ+cr/z0Bq8KElJQfzpQLLSH1WuTAwSoEbvBXFGjVXbYK2D89Y97THR5kct//s9 dRbKdrNcG/O3GHQP6Bwe3+DDqZdF5vPzg/xe4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=dlATaLpBqcKRphXWh1O7QB70dx36SYNnCmnv2PsfFluaO3vkcuIBrY2pE3FEoopwjM RTXPLqewxptHZKAKuDmmYm8hbGNs9XocZcFjrudFrJw//d5vra75c/fqQ/nrFVhIbbJY BSa0rhJJGm4YJT23yH/EK3O42RKk7+WHkTcoA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <4CF3BC42.6080008@post.cybercity.dk> <861847.30072.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:20:29 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1e70ef0503404963449ec Resent-Message-ID: <8WATU.A.wK.eD-8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:20:30 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1e70ef0503404963449ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i got a pair of active Tannoy Reveals a few years ago (version 5 with the blue fronts) and haven't regretted it one bit. i mixed and mastered my latest album on them and it sounded great when i took it down to a proper mastering studio to check it was ok. i only had to adjust some of the ultra low frequencies, as i have no subwoofer. sim --000e0cd1e70ef0503404963449ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i got a pair of active Tannoy Reveals a few years ago (version 5 with the b= lue fronts) and haven't regretted it one bit. i mixed and mastered my l= atest album on them and it sounded great when i took it down to a proper ma= stering studio to check it was ok. i only had to adjust some of the ultra l= ow frequencies, as i have no subwoofer.

sim
--000e0cd1e70ef0503404963449ec-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 17:27:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF4A13BEB2; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1xpsZuSl5o2RC2VbTTYztsgJ5IUmDotczgipk2FxRks=; b=r/lyzCdMYl/4krBM5Qihcde8ozcGqDOdNk6hgh+J1EMUemlOn3Xg/l+TQGWC9fiilm wGOQBtmBkgZr6JIQWPcmqrTH2jF4Q9u4L02/KHlHDlGtLcvZlDV+X3xXu2kAvavARGI/ VdpMd7GvSyxkC5A43GlBDPx/8gia/KvwODB5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=US9ZuztCyYIV9lgn1H9Mvr/O3R4UjBoF5gTu7sCU9xyn3PuHnZX533settRsGL5UDp FBiL1kP2Y8/qnnUkJDrNFSYJRbSLgAr3b22usd3TIrse4Z56ujCF5P8kYWc77d0Evwdf HEl5WAPw2IrmFEfRfghDSDL0gBVOHECIjZiB4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <86B56528-A633-44E9-9EBE-6400EFE06FAC@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:27:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <4rupGC.A.5V.TK-8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:27:47 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:08 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Do you or anyone else actually HAVE that Kontakt 4 pack... its pretty cheap, I have Kontakt 4 and the library that comes with it (string parts from the Viena STrings). They sound good. I also have the East West Gold Symphony and that also sounds good but it is sampled with quite a lot hall ambience (not close miked). Some good bread and butter orchestral percussion in the EW Gold. I run the EW in K4 which is nice because some patches are set up to cross between different kind of samples and that makes it kind of more expressive. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 17:28:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70F113BE90; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n0ZP+lMlnz2BEyaEOymhrWhg0a8js++jFRkphTYy2nk=; b=ifBMTIO7peozE+Q/fyQFdrGrE+ikkycgIyHQatOzZwQNDl2Qxi+n8VjFYbm14ycjgp rgb+XdSnp3vV5w2kcNLZTQAgyKyprhHgX5Z8pHDwZG37sG5FEegODMWMfzpGKqiLopFP /59XTFzxK+IDjCOHjyFzPmkR5aJI2N6FbAsro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ahNRiopMnk1n+u/HNe41UJMVTMo2uqVfVnz0Tg8ScgCHLXMJu+u30P0PkaGL8NfghT WTYVzCTnqjAVvMnj6C5+D4WJQw/RsEF2sLnwOowcOk75unFdh3buVeZH5co4cAPxU5If oY40l51QRzURilvPAoDCe7lKPgt6Oxi+n+HiY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3CE789B3C5B94BC4B8D305466B1BBB39@bob> References: <3CE789B3C5B94BC4B8D305466B1BBB39@bob> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:28:33 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Lots of people are looping using Ableton. I've seen it in action, but don't know much about it, myself, but I've toyed with the thought of buying it in order to build songs from improvisations. I also know a bunch of people who loop (or do something like it) in MAX MSP. For me - hardware loopers were the first thing I could afford to try. (In the mid 90s when I got started, the best thing I could afford had a maximum 4 second loop.) As a member of that small group of "electronic musicians who are luddites", I haven't yet felt the urge to make the transition to laptop. ...and yes, I bet a large number of the profiles on loopers-delight.com are out of date. I haven't updated mine since 2002 or so. (gulp!) -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:19 AM, patrick dunn wrote: > Hi all - please forgive what seems to me to be a bit of a dumb > question...but are all you live loopers out there using computers much?? > > Looking through the Looper's Delight profiles, it looks like most people are > using dedicated hardware; predominantly EDP or similar. Is this still the > case, or is the list out of date? OR...is dedicated hardware generally just > more convenient and reliable? > > I've been fiddling with live looping - on viola, piano and various other > things - using Ableton for a couple of years now (with Bourne midi > translator and a few other bits 'n pieces) and it sometimes feels like I'm > doing more preparation and programming than playing, but on the other hand, > I just prefer to have everything in one place. Do I need an EDP? Would that > be easier...? Not sure... > > I'd be grateful for any guidance or thoughts people might have. > > Thanks > > Patrick > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 17:39:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0BA83BEAF; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qsCNcKJOz1bFwzYfKsxIa3USYNu8xX7gkRNGrz9J6iU=; b=fcvyL4E5cPr4u0fXAgFu47k2iyQ9H33OTekVegaJjJe3P78BjDi0GIaLhi1cFI0mVx INZfqsbi1yslocPOxPgIgLe6OCjfFdAaNDfawNtFnVAmiLRFpuTajGFP/RQO/8XseYhL usJ9xxw3V2lFbBGrB37vC4abiSCnWlKz3MCdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LhmPa4tdhmoOArmeaZaZ414HFhfVjMMHHT3d3pGDTyMAuEy1uQnVykkX59vwc34XTx xXAPxyioPNzME+0mSN1azmDL5/J6K4uJ2p1or7KT7qBMN7sBvdDwO027No5XSUU5Oral xgJblhYaQaw/koFvO2oz2w3vyDpBpqhn+YENc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3CE789B3C5B94BC4B8D305466B1BBB39@bob> References: <3CE789B3C5B94BC4B8D305466B1BBB39@bob> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:39:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <4jWsy.A.zo.1U-8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:39:01 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:19 PM, patrick dunn wrote: > Hi all - please forgive what seems to me to be a bit of a dumb > question...but are all you live loopers out there using computers much?? Yes, almost entirely. But five years ago I used only hardware boxes. More specifically one EDP, one Electrixpro Repeater, one Akai MFC42 filterbank and one Lexicon LXP5 effect processor. All this in a gator rack with a Euro mixer on the top to blend the tone. Today I do quite similar looping in the Mobius looping software. First I used it hosted in Ableton live (2005), then I used it hosted under Bidule, then as a standalone application and finally hosted in Mainstage (yes, I left Windows on the way and today use only Mac boxes). I don't mind much how software application look because I don't look much at the screen. When playing is not much different for me using a laptop compared to using my oldest hardware rig. The difference is that I now can experiment more and bring my actual instrument with me to more gigs (laptop bag + noise maker + MIDI pedal board) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 17:44:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 610813BEC9; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "patrick dunn" To: References: <3CE789B3C5B94BC4B8D305466B1BBB39@bob> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone? Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:44:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18483 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Thanks - and now I'm seeing macs everywhere, wherever I look...sorry about that... Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Davignon" To: Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone? > Lots of people are looping using Ableton. I've seen it in action, but > don't know much about it, myself, but I've toyed with the thought of > buying it in order to build songs from improvisations. I also know a > bunch of people who loop (or do something like it) in MAX MSP. > > For me - hardware loopers were the first thing I could afford to try. > (In the mid 90s when I got started, the best thing I could afford had > a maximum 4 second loop.) As a member of that small group of > "electronic musicians who are luddites", I haven't yet felt the urge > to make the transition to laptop. > > ...and yes, I bet a large number of the profiles on > loopers-delight.com are out of date. I haven't updated mine since 2002 > or so. (gulp!) > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:19 AM, patrick dunn > wrote: >> Hi all - please forgive what seems to me to be a bit of a dumb >> question...but are all you live loopers out there using computers much?? >> >> Looking through the Looper's Delight profiles, it looks like most people >> are >> using dedicated hardware; predominantly EDP or similar. Is this still the >> case, or is the list out of date? OR...is dedicated hardware generally >> just >> more convenient and reliable? >> >> I've been fiddling with live looping - on viola, piano and various other >> things - using Ableton for a couple of years now (with Bourne midi >> translator and a few other bits 'n pieces) and it sometimes feels like >> I'm >> doing more preparation and programming than playing, but on the other >> hand, >> I just prefer to have everything in one place. Do I need an EDP? Would >> that >> be easier...? Not sure... >> >> I'd be grateful for any guidance or thoughts people might have. >> >> Thanks >> >> Patrick >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 17:47:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F14BF3BEEA; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1291052849; bh=hFeSLvXb3OS9nbswRuo/Mmf2nmA8DcSv6C+NtJ24VTM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z/VtkdD8BaW1rtWE0hwZobxhz7Lr2XTDE8xr3fZ71D9c+illcijkHL71+hGw+MUkUVAiIBeGPuONS1nZ8a7Ryigxurug1NLvnLViSS254yuq5oOuff1bP8B4aFFM5gvyLFI4ve+wmkkTmbE6Ebe0NtWKbQbU2eH/q9/nLPhyGIU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OsSIWKVsVH0hIO/N2P7EFD76xr9IJE4jlMqpHU2XmnhXov+5q9HrrEVBZ+IHS9r1kzxYGBNMhgAoQ90TaQPEWapt5smajhHk8jBZJLTGWKSzEqxSljX3PCIdRcbZPQbrxhi+fGsXwNdjfj3cQkHJBFfLhNXQBrL0Cs9ar/vN/lk=; Message-ID: <656913.74830.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pIVFtcEVM1mP.XEP7UDY4.XersqL.sVclk24mwgixtW2LHx Bd7sF_X1k57cmic_QeFtuLgd5prixpUc3xZK31H4d8.V23l5NdVDQPMv4X8K BrZyJGiInbXOXLUg.VZHGIrgsqF6DuJ0Em6U5IuN9n_IN01n8j4NXqDr5G0n 2Zgb89dTD867esPWJTWjxQ6Yc75ZuvSDaCjnLVw9I.grmeAA9snvDG0njUhx TW.NLBKrFgpevEYY_cMprsB4pqZFPfRJQ7cYTsIm0x7_ri56MAndxusP2N0C oycMGcvdktslurXAymBgiRUzJ4Sm44MI0UwTeH4PL6oA- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <3CE789B3C5B94BC4B8D305466B1BBB39@bob> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:47:29 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="855259926-101912819-1291052849=:74830" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:47:30 +0000 (UTC) --855259926-101912819-1291052849=:74830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the problem with computers is that they tend to draw your attention away from the music and into the screen... Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 6:28:33 PM Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone? Lots of people are looping using Ableton. I've seen it in action, but don't know much about it, myself, but I've toyed with the thought of buying it in order to build songs from improvisations. I also know a bunch of people who loop (or do something like it) in MAX MSP. For me - hardware loopers were the first thing I could afford to try. (In the mid 90s when I got started, the best thing I could afford had a maximum 4 second loop.) As a member of that small group of "electronic musicians who are luddites", I haven't yet felt the urge to make the transition to laptop. ...and yes, I bet a large number of the profiles on loopers-delight.com are out of date. I haven't updated mine since 2002 or so. (gulp!) -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:19 AM, patrick dunn wrote: > Hi all - please forgive what seems to me to be a bit of a dumb > question...but are all you live loopers out there using computers much?? > > Looking through the Looper's Delight profiles, it looks like most people are > using dedicated hardware; predominantly EDP or similar. Is this still the > case, or is the list out of date? OR...is dedicated hardware generally just > more convenient and reliable? > > I've been fiddling with live looping - on viola, piano and various other > things - using Ableton for a couple of years now (with Bourne midi > translator and a few other bits 'n pieces) and it sometimes feels like I'm > doing more preparation and programming than playing, but on the other hand, > I just prefer to have everything in one place. Do I need an EDP? Would that > be easier...? Not sure... > > I'd be grateful for any guidance or thoughts people might have. > > Thanks > > Patrick > > --855259926-101912819-1291052849=:74830 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
the problem with computers is that they tend to draw your attention away from the music and into the screen...

Antony Hequet

From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 6:28:33 PM
Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone?

Lots of people are looping using Ableton. I've seen it in action, but
don't know much about it, myself, but I've toyed with the thought of
buying it in order to build songs from improvisations. I also know a
bunch of people who loop (or do something like it) in MAX MSP.

For me - hardware loopers were the first thing I could afford to try.
(In the mid 90s when I got started, the best thing I could afford had
a maximum 4 second loop.) As a member of that small group of
"electronic musicians who are luddites", I haven't yet felt the urge
to make the transition to laptop.

...and yes, I bet a large number of the profiles on
loopers-delight.com are out of date. I haven't updated mine since 2002
or so. (gulp!)


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt



On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:19 AM, patrick dunn
<patrick@networked-learning.com> wrote:
> Hi all - please forgive what seems to me to be a bit of a dumb
> question...but are all you live loopers out there using computers much??
>
> Looking through the Looper's Delight profiles, it looks like most people are
> using dedicated hardware; predominantly EDP or similar. Is this still the
> case, or is the list out of date? OR...is dedicated hardware generally just
> more convenient and reliable?
>
> I've been fiddling with live looping - on viola, piano and various other
> things - using Ableton for a couple of years now (with Bourne midi
> translator and a few other bits 'n pieces) and it sometimes feels like I'm
> doing more preparation and programming than playing, but on the other hand,
> I just prefer to have everything in one place. Do I need an EDP? Would that
> be easier...? Not sure...
>
> I'd be grateful for any guidance or thoughts people might have.
>
> Thanks
>
> Patrick
>
>


--855259926-101912819-1291052849=:74830-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 18:05:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54E6C3BED2; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1291053919; bh=Npe0714slxwV8QIaTlPJN++11DCeKOyVd8iaP90c88w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mlOHIDaQzEjyEn8nxdLCYZgyxb+S1MhTstaqIanbibAlI4DAtM/ToP9n1cztMoUfHvZws7vRwidWGVoFducA5Lzm3jTih1luPkHi8HK3JLaGe6pJIwPeEfl1KdOzs//KW7kiLeWyd+fBKiHA5oWlm7tZLEj0zmidk+P6zFGYvKk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RStfaoSwZCw7EupxmLwZBSCspQCG5J4L367aqfAZCHtNVpyVr1clIzfoc8ePLFkr/3iMaJT05Jr5SFVwGsTkqOXFaNQ4kBjar0Sea67iAKfc05G5ebtUtzDFEffJ1cG7oEASSl6Tb3uMjQ3DE/ChIz0Gy4HDjr/+sxwDJV7VjoM=; Message-ID: <818829.60946.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: vEoEpH4VM1me_Won6gjKkq46JuqlvRzHbEZnBbG0tMyv9Ef _bTO.rIVShgkiNkZzLy80FPd3HUDvP0Gn8iKxY1DwaJK_2831JMBbO2ApHiv GC.WBvMvDyB9bsDoWFifLg31hwHjcj4dz2_W66msl6kLWc3ULT5ukClvYqTO G96CQARQoKIG6cWZb9B1f2mcREU4zAXTd2af.t_18Jja7VQrwOl8vsYQmbWe MwSKXbiVXaSAK4Oo0ROwKFWQdkg4BaCAUxK7DN_LBtP8j84OCNKI0g5UvC4Q 1d585dIZtdLrn.fMtmCq8QFWCd51gzE2477BUcUb3wKA- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <3CE789B3C5B94BC4B8D305466B1BBB39@bob> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:05:19 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1361544951-1291053919=:60946" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:05:21 +0000 (UTC) --0-1361544951-1291053919=:60946 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have worked with Ableton Live for live looping, and now there are software add ons which are much more powerful, but the black hole gravitational effect of having a computer on stage brought me back to hardware: the Looperlative LP1 for now and maybe the octotrack when that's ready to roll. AH ________________________________ From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 6:28:33 PM Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone? Lots of people are looping using Ableton. I've seen it in action, but don't know much about it, myself, but I've toyed with the thought of buying it in order to build songs from improvisations. I also know a bunch of people who loop (or do something like it) in MAX MSP. For me - hardware loopers were the first thing I could afford to try. (In the mid 90s when I got started, the best thing I could afford had a maximum 4 second loop.) As a member of that small group of "electronic musicians who are luddites", I haven't yet felt the urge to make the transition to laptop. ...and yes, I bet a large number of the profiles on loopers-delight.com are out of date. I haven't updated mine since 2002 or so. (gulp!) -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:19 AM, patrick dunn wrote: > Hi all - please forgive what seems to me to be a bit of a dumb > question...but are all you live loopers out there using computers much?? > > Looking through the Looper's Delight profiles, it looks like most people are > using dedicated hardware; predominantly EDP or similar. Is this still the > case, or is the list out of date? OR...is dedicated hardware generally just > more convenient and reliable? > > I've been fiddling with live looping - on viola, piano and various other > things - using Ableton for a couple of years now (with Bourne midi > translator and a few other bits 'n pieces) and it sometimes feels like I'm > doing more preparation and programming than playing, but on the other hand, > I just prefer to have everything in one place. Do I need an EDP? Would that > be easier...? Not sure... > > I'd be grateful for any guidance or thoughts people might have. > > Thanks > > Patrick > > --0-1361544951-1291053919=:60946 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I have worked with Ableton Live for live looping, and now there are software add ons which are much more powerful, but the black hole gravitational effect of having a computer on stage brought me back to hardware: the Looperlative LP1 for now and maybe the octotrack when that's ready to roll.

AH


From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 6:28:33 PM
Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone?

Lots of people are looping using Ableton. I've seen it in action, but
don't know much about it, myself, but I've toyed with the thought of
buying it in order to build songs from improvisations. I also know a
bunch of people who loop (or do something like it) in MAX MSP.

For me - hardware loopers were the first thing I could afford to try.
(In the mid 90s when I got started, the best thing I could afford had
a maximum 4 second loop.) As a member of that small group of
"electronic musicians who are luddites", I haven't yet felt the urge
to make the transition to laptop.

...and yes, I bet a large number of the profiles on
loopers-delight.com are out of date. I haven't updated mine since 2002
or so. (gulp!)


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt



On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:19 AM, patrick dunn
<patrick@networked-learning.com> wrote:
> Hi all - please forgive what seems to me to be a bit of a dumb
> question...but are all you live loopers out there using computers much??
>
> Looking through the Looper's Delight profiles, it looks like most people are
> using dedicated hardware; predominantly EDP or similar. Is this still the
> case, or is the list out of date? OR...is dedicated hardware generally just
> more convenient and reliable?
>
> I've been fiddling with live looping - on viola, piano and various other
> things - using Ableton for a couple of years now (with Bourne midi
> translator and a few other bits 'n pieces) and it sometimes feels like I'm
> doing more preparation and programming than playing, but on the other hand,
> I just prefer to have everything in one place. Do I need an EDP? Would that
> be easier...? Not sure...
>
> I'd be grateful for any guidance or thoughts people might have.
>
> Thanks
>
> Patrick
>
>


--0-1361544951-1291053919=:60946-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 18:17:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E2B63BED9; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 532479201/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.95/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.95 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUBACd980xYbRpf/2dsb2JhbAAHlHeFb8wRhUcEjWQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,276,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="532479201" Message-ID: <4CF3EE59.2090408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:18:01 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom References: <4CF1D585.6020708@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4CF1D585.6020708@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > The brilliance of 4'33" is that Cage is asking the listener to listen to > the entire > world as potential musical sources. The audiences reactions, coughs, > chair > fidgeting, etc. IS the music in 4'33". > afaik the score actually specifies that the performer should open doors and windows to maximise the incidental sounds odd that it's known as a silent piece From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 18:25:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55E4D3BE89; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zji04SD0DIaJfMDmWNjlP5k54HMwi/pADqEla9gLCPk=; b=uDmunnNh60Lgb6H4voKvPYsn6b+1qoGXKBVzw/Hc48RRuehN2rMCtUQbggj+wCtqhp zZGcc0NMnzcAwXk53NPzsW80Fal6dFX8IDWz5UAob5LNl3uWGiyZk7TAlcpcgGCw0CL9 a0jJMwo4phI3lGe5X7XepeAHH7c0wCzCdLchw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vrw+MXP9jgjBMijCXM+Jhm/6KIbOiEDj0F2zR8Vm9ZHtPDubAg+hmFwv3H0jguQ2sA Oa+otZnxfLR2tlE771StANqTDN6j2GXFN+xbNceTOQdhDFOzqXr512DUE8iocljVMmx+ YZ6TCe2S+11DEyjNmDw8LaVtO8UKBluWhESnI= Message-ID: <4CF3F012.1000204@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:25:22 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom References: <4CF1D585.6020708@cruzio.com> <4CF3EE59.2090408@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4CF3EE59.2090408@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7_Ohn.A.iyB.YA_8MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:25:28 +0000 (UTC) andy butler schrieb: > afaik the score actually specifies that the performer should open No it doesn't ;) http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/works/4-33/images/4/ Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 18:30:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 670503BE91; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oxu8rodD9dyhra5aux7wf0Nukw6wiZqCUdAaIfKG6n4=; b=mTZwCaDrB/Gmy+XKSGtJNtvUAwZvm5zXLwn6JoEMZweZgYXun7qBNGyuF41NOgVI4f 4FwAmD3tPwa/x1GbjAzTyIY5c1uEKEmxmW/RVGQ7+cZ4XTFsRKyj5C1EymtFVq+cY5fq PUJaptTZf18bHAFBspnagiOh1p/SioWS3a+GY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pXNCji1j7ZpizdHwOtvP6dnm2EhkMa/w56NC96KYWqnT7nVcTW7G9YOsGUMSekp9ye 5bJsSjhyg59bvzyE5OULlOzF0kwuUqxkqatipHd7Q2GqKQSsn2MU6BUn/OAht/uljhDE KhPGqnN1Lf1gR1F6xBvRrrD48pSHgN8HUC6+Y= Message-ID: <4CF3F13D.3040606@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:30:21 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Fabio_A schrieb: > Hi there, > I decided to buy a monitor speakers system, but have ho idea which > model to choose. > I'm a newby in this regards, so please let me know your experience. Very much has to do with personal taste... I personally use a pair of Dynaudio BM5A (which, following some reviews AND my personal impression, are better than the more expensive one BM6A). I never could quite get the hang of the Genelecs ('though I think they're less tiring for very prolonged listening periods), nor could I get the hang of the Mackies (can't understand how anyone would characterize them as "analytical"). So my recommendation: the Dynaudio BM5A. If you want to spend more, get the BM9S sub as well. Btw, the Fireface you're using does not have an analogue (post-converter) level dial for its outputs, so getting a passive volume control may be a good idea. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 18:45:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49D0C3BEBE; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 532494380/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.95/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.95 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAAOD80xYbRpf/2dsb2JhbAAHlHnSCYVHBI1k X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,276,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="532494380" Message-ID: <4CF3F4DF.3040606@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:45:51 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:45:42 +0000 (UTC) hi Fabio, "small and not expensive" isn't ideal :-( Genelecs are a safe bet, if you get the biggest you can tolerate/afford. If you can afford PMC then they have a special design which gives good bass extension for the size of cabinet. ( also they sound amazing ) With small speakers there's always going to be missing low frequencies, you'll need to check your mix on a big system some time, although you'll be able to avoid nasty surprises by spectral analysis using software. andy butler Fabio_A wrote: > Hi there, > I decided to buy a monitor speakers system, but have ho idea which model > to choose. > I'm a newby in this regards, so please let me know your experience. > > I need monitor speakers _mainly for mixing music_ and also to play with > myself. > I want to connect the speakers straight from the main output of my RME > Fireface. > I'll use them in my flat, so I don't need a powerfull system, in dB terms. > What is really important is to get a "transparent" sound from them. > I'd prefer small ones and - why not - not much expensive. > > Any suggestions ? > > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 18:45:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC7423BECA; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=+8WaF0Fo+hbZ940ixma7bfgL9grs21D1N9fVqbmvwiI=; b=fUis0eEyk7MkmWckIup9QJMfPe/2xc2kO2wtxxbOzN7eEfJ75iFeQYX46dyCDYwktM 8wjfqqqEQumOO5MXT+YPviGy6F0PAn2TOWFxojLhGwmcFK2wgm+FSa3ljkEUqqEBbuyk ffJpVtI49hoI5Yv6w3LZGTNOMQT9uKNb+48nQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=gQoukPDT5aIfXyY6yUOmyv/0FHwTv5VB4wRy7wcKDPYrEJoVpHO7kS07niCQ/u6q/f wfBKYnCLbW8QuNT4TjRJFR//qn0W0Jnaag6vKUn2ngd+S/GH8vN6GaoQKqs903cXRJmT fSwxdERC+W7h5VduvIMT0V4dCgqjf8na+X0aE= Subject: Re: updating from Loop3 to Loop4 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <0CDA521A-AFA5-4C7C-B6A6-4FAFD1044618@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:45:09 -0300 Cc: Andy Ewen Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1F0B46CA-E064-4989-8418-C8C770C0BB47@gmail.com> References: <0CDA521A-AFA5-4C7C-B6A6-4FAFD1044618@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:45:46 +0000 (UTC) wow, I did not know, thank you! we fix asap and yes, LOOP4 is still available, just contact Andy Ewen = On 28 Nov 2010, at 20:59, 3vcos wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Does anyone know if its possible to get an update for an EDP? > I am running Loop3 v5.0 and want to get Loop4 (whatever the latest = version of 4 is) >=20 > The website seems to be down. http://www.aurisis.com/ >=20 > If they are no longer selling updates can anyone point me in the = direction of a service center that could help? >=20 > Thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 18:49:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4020F3BEDB; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:references:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=zhbE12VLQ9IrRuDOxgi5uy6bfy0hSdIeDMEQRGtPxwI=; b=NLbVglsHG0ByUcWl1QznC/QMJYUFhL0DgYCSRK9So4ebPqlfuF9jm7HRJeqg09Uhow araK/5W4cMjRPc4ivhT6CjqTbNEw0KlH6IrLUjaI+UGJJSHc12qot13QHs3bolhtJU2l KFl54fTnqXKxqA6sWmNeKJM3LzkxtSzPnkk88= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=FLoKwPcsytSBdGjb3pW7dRmPxs04uPXDkIyYtQ9GcIVJ08qO61f58gkiJQw5Jq38c6 C2SDXJnXR4u3Rk+U56asKuuIpWTwJh2x5VojK/OS25fF8V/ZZv/P/nJFRj6wQra2P/Ui NIvJHJBoJHCahnjZH1O62BrHtgLjKE0fxFEWc= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:50:19 +0100 Message-ID: <-7235775175737175636@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:49:37 +0000 (UTC) I have the very small 1029s... I can confirm they need the sub... I dont have one... Thats how i know... Mark.. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 29 Nov 2010, at 18:17, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Ricky Graham > wrote: >> genelec 8030a > > , but if you buy the smaller model you will need a sub. > > Per Boysen > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 19:16:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A5E03BEE6; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=wk+Dm6CUxQUcs62FCTV021M5jRpk9Flo4ls5nPkyaKI=; b=X5P0boIlZ6OWknr8sPny/zsQ45Rn2xf8+7ac1iK2xIYO3VGDq1g8CPhxw0X1uRdce9 N++UGcBJ/wRu1ztI+yr3UruiCelfJ/AOaDvGVTknYgBMC223Q+12t5BOoT1bJ2+RGt0+ cIPLgp5iMQOVeVPNz5nVSMXVQ/+Uk0+LeE8H0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=uaozFKvo8YXc/64JzyZN1Qc+J3R4t1kQH5nDoSsX8BaQz0SGJHMlUjqyJEohaEBdOo tgCAr+2KE6kcKbF+NyGinnUiuVN+1nSxJn6zAJWCrP/SnGwe3qMXuwtG11yicf9y/DVN Pt+wUP/HG4lLlrk+PQQMdrjLbshJ8uGs6FH54= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <4CF3EE59.2090408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:15:35 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <93E50CD3-3F16-4BB8-90E8-76FA8442341E@gmail.com> References: <4CF1D585.6020708@cruzio.com> <4CF3EE59.2090408@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:16:11 +0000 (UTC) we have this kind of discussion sooner or later in most introspection = kind of circles (meditation rituals and such) where I play.=20 it starts that some one comes up saying that silence is better than = (my?) music=20 I usually answer that the non music option is not silence but ambient = noise which may be worse than (good! ;-) music. (especially here in = Bahia where usually ambient noise is some radio with lowest chakra dance = music :-) most peoples reaction is rather amazed and positive like "ah, I never = thought about it this way". it seems they do manage to not hear that = noise! On 29 Nov 2010, at 15:18, andy butler wrote: > Rick Walker wrote: >=20 >> The brilliance of 4'33" is that Cage is asking the listener to listen = to the entire >> world as potential musical sources. The audiences reactions, = coughs, chair >> fidgeting, etc. IS the music in 4'33". >=20 > afaik the score actually specifies that the performer should open > doors and windows to maximise the incidental sounds >=20 >=20 > odd that it's known as a silent piece >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 19:16:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D6593BEF9; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BmZBPAuGEqjUT7JZdW2pbKEZXG+/b+ksHbcYkvdBN3o=; b=ZcnPMEYIS4OPX0fixozasjH8mUMGYqcVTKPGi0ePk3P4aNpW8d9IinTJt3XBdstWjX cxSwXHuTQ7kzgiQq6qN7PVeekJpAXLtMHDsbEgKmASXz9fKNBBIl0QD0REGzzJIPYPkf pWFbnNDs4OyHyTaOQzn6UHgwfbZBIvxu+kLyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vKbIVVUcJMTx3bmUJqm4KA/YxG/dm6XhXayyRo0e1wM4WvVLHDrpUPKdPPxJl2vR7K O2l8nVX/QNbBghdvhKH+guFugsQavT6SAZvZwFspdjlvPZevKGary4rz702nQpx6w3VD BAHlSM8ilcHofX0V9wugsZblQVVF1UDwbcBtI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CF3F012.1000204@googlemail.com> References: <4CF1D585.6020708@cruzio.com> <4CF3EE59.2090408@tiscali.co.uk> <4CF3F012.1000204@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:16:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644d6b68dda47049635e86d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:16:26 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644d6b68dda47049635e86d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Another nice quote from Cage: "The essential meaning of silence is the giving up of intention", Thanks Rainer ! -f 2010/11/29 Rainer Straschill > andy butler schrieb: > > afaik the score actually specifies that the performer should open >> > No it doesn't ;) > http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/works/4-33/images/4/ > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --0016e644d6b68dda47049635e86d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Another nice quote from Cage:
"The essential meaning of silence is the giving up of intention&q= uot;,
Thanks Rainer !
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2010/11/29 Rainer Straschill &= lt;moinsound@googlemail.com= >
andy butler schrieb:=20

afaik the score actually specifi= es that the performer should open
No it doesn't ;= )
http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/works/4-33/images/4/

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--0016e644d6b68dda47049635e86d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 19:45:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 244D73BE95; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1291059916; bh=oaTC1Lzc+wJn55oOROXwfBc9fQIzVrMjmSa4PyKMqoQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fkzHmxD5WtV0WNM/TYyVwbi/+gZv+TR9vrxCfEyFEft4o9ylxKdgCHjPkpout12y0bac+GyAv5vDd2T6nP6650Eq4D6Lia9vaV1VJVaToUWukU1fgJYGsuRL3MIOqmE24PqJJT2WgnSgINVDyztIAhiligqMpHFMpadvCAIZkpA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Jw5b6q+yGw3cKBfM/KIlLSJz+DWkh6hHHf067uL4do7Q+uzLO9wJFV2XjV4n7SAlggFjTy93vxMGtMqFGKV2LblZQz/UDI3BevzN/ujd3m0BAznTXRwDDSGmvEkd9sxzLC3xwRRNLq1cxozp8vAr4bPTZZaUNd+erB0fFeQk3EU=; Message-ID: <205006.29564.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: meOWbiIVM1njN.VgzMfulONhP.UQh8WLF_Ma.xaxvYyQB1z lNNQfsaB7YZ7k61lEX588QMc6r7FRjNVhBDTIbNXk6AfRq2SNhrH.hi348Cd j77OPr6EKjp1Q4mdSuqhiptFb_0q6Ig35DMTd6tVKaBqpfHBqWHshN_u3mtY bmcokXe_1izdvNiIs8QzwtSBK9pe8wLsd31VuVHQgifftZ5wAR.AknQajaf2 _c0IQNfpj4ybOZ_pu7MBF3yk83RiFO3P1.Wtjzyexvrw_WFcpeZqHDg7HGX5 yVShRy.FA17flZhbSLqV4F.XxISreBl1V6g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <-7235775175737175636@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:45:16 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <-7235775175737175636@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1750170985-1291059916=:29564" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:45:17 +0000 (UTC) --0-1750170985-1291059916=:29564 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have PMC LB1S, they go down to 25HZ and do they sound accurate. The bass is amazing: You need a large enough room and acoustic treatment so you room does not start to rumble. Smaller PMC monitors also sound great and have more lows than comparably sized monitors from other makers. It has to do with the way they handle the bass. Look it up at PMC monitors. It is really worth investing in monitors and sound treatment if you want to have professional results. I prefer dynaudio to Genelec if you are goign for small nearfield. The small Genelec monitors are very compressed and they tend t hurt my ears after a long day on th job. They are pleasant but I believe a bit flattereing. AH ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 7:50:19 PM Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers I have the very small 1029s... I can confirm they need the sub... I dont have one... Thats how i know... Mark.. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 29 Nov 2010, at 18:17, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Ricky Graham > wrote: >> genelec 8030a > > , but if you buy the smaller model you will need a sub. > > Per Boysen > > --0-1750170985-1291059916=:29564 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I have PMC LB1S, they go down to 25HZ and do they sound accurate. The bass is amazing: You need a large enough room and acoustic treatment so you room does not start to rumble. Smaller PMC monitors also sound great and have more lows than comparably sized monitors from other makers. It has to do with the way they handle the bass. Look it up at PMC monitors. It is really worth investing in monitors and sound treatment if you want to have professional results. 
I prefer dynaudio to Genelec if you are goign for small nearfield. The small Genelec monitors are very compressed and they tend t hurt my ears after a long day on th job. They are pleasant but I believe a bit flattereing.

AH

From: mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 7:50:19 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers

I have the very small 1029s... I can confirm they need the sub... I
dont have one... Thats how i know...

Mark..

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 29 Nov 2010, at 18:17, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Ricky Graham
> <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> genelec 8030a
>
> , but if you buy the smaller model you will need a sub.
>
> Per Boysen
>
>


--0-1750170985-1291059916=:29564-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 20:14:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7DB03BED3; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 541190192/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.95/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.95 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAJKY80xYbRpf/2dsb2JhbAAHlHnSAoVHBI1k X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,277,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="541190192" Message-ID: <4CF4098F.9080007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:14:07 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom References: <4CF1D585.6020708@cruzio.com> <4CF3EE59.2090408@tiscali.co.uk> <4CF3F012.1000204@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4CF3F012.1000204@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > andy butler schrieb: >> afaik the score actually specifies that the performer should open > No it doesn't ;) > http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/works/4-33/images/4/ > > Rainer > I got that info from a tale of a music student who played some of the "easiest" Cage pieces for the performance necessary for his degree. He passed of course. Maybe Cage made that suggestion at some time. I thought the idea of the piece was to present the incidental sounds as music...but then Cage does refer to it as "my silent piece". andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 20:15:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61B503BEE1; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:15:19 UTC Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:07:12 +0000 (UTC) From: axis4@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1075097191.1184257.1291061232852.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <773869789.1147841.1291029189142.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1184256_695022232.1291061232852" X-Originating-IP: [75.75.176.179] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:15:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1184256_695022232.1291061232852 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: axis4@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 6:13:09 AM Subject: Re: unsubscribe ------=_Part_1184256_695022232.1291061232852 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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------=_Part_1184256_695022232.1291061232852-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 20:21:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AD7C3BEEC; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gfTWnz6upjr9tQVDsAxi3tPtjYmBhQjunZvGR7Q8xik=; b=TPUBrduC4AVLq4QYMvjDxQ6qoa0Uctze7x6MjnmnKSC0JkB3awxxlPASlLKJtRnxEM FvKWUBZfTccHgP60cUqmyCu3FTKTZBML2lc+nyCbsJLvi2OccJ23DM7Ju/wEn3hOhQ66 SWYoDWA82i5bSbwUxGWrwarPpkzwq4/tCIGvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XLnAR1v+xHZPB7OFDQ6NPVwlK4v9IS2QBrowxdWkzdmLBRPPfDoEOM8i0XL00pHVOd Mi0HDDsdVlVPCisOfnnLS89AlsyCxFXzDhruh0VHP+3+7OHr5vXCWsw4kjKyp+fUwDTz 313Bb/wbDZxTTTh4gaNrR4zxV2t2zW4s6i1Xo= Message-ID: <4CF40B31.2020001@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:21:05 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe References: <1075097191.1184257.1291061232852.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1075097191.1184257.1291061232852.JavaMail.root@sz0154a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_oGDTB.A.LdE.zsA9MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:21:07 +0000 (UTC) axis4@comcast.net schrieb: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: axis4@comcast.net > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 6:13:09 AM > Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > unsubscribe is out of the office and will not return. Ever. For unsubscribing issues, contact Peter Leinhos at peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com For rudely complaining about this list, contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 3793 ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission and immediately delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank you.***** Or you might just follow these instruction: http://loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 20:37:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B1693BE95; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:37:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 21671 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:37:30 UTC Message-ID: <4CF410F4.4010308@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:45:40 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers References: <4CF3F4DF.3040606@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4CF3F4DF.3040606@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:37:30 +0000 (UTC) andy butler wrote: > hi Fabio, > > "small and not expensive" isn't ideal :-( > > Genelecs are a safe bet, if you get the biggest you can tolerate/afford. > > If you can afford PMC then they have a special design which gives good > bass extension for the size of cabinet. ( also they sound amazing ) > > With small speakers there's always going to be missing low frequencies, > you'll need to check your mix on a big system some time, > although you'll be able to avoid nasty surprises by spectral analysis > using software. > > andy butler Which is another good reason the my suggested Mackie HR624 mk2's, going down to 37hz, even though outfitted with a mere 6½" driver. To make this happen, a rear-mounted passive slave is used. I've listened to and build some slave-based speakers, and often had a more or less swampy bass; however, the HR624's exibit none of this, but are as firm and well-defined as I could wish for. It has to be noted that a rear slave can make positioning problematic, and correct dampening panels must be employed behind the speakers. In general, as has been noted elsewhere, monitors are a somewhat personal experience. Also, make sure to take a few pairs home for listening in their intended habitat - and make sure to have proper acoustics treatment in place, as no speakers, however great or expensive, will perform without such. Happy hunting and enjoyment when you find the Right Ones ;) -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 20:47:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAFE53BECC; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QU2+/KreL9F+3n6LUZc4j4MIwfR4gsdLulI/7uNzofs=; b=LO6v+eFrzckAQK+PGXzcJFeC8P9e1jcCGZ+3vdN+Lvb/i06Ql0fGgZPe6Jnrqk0SME dFW/h3kYXAhraC/FG2ROc0lEqVwdjT3Sd4WBlC9R09jXroAyBHB6vwuTPXRymVUvgXII EzPw+xmrmDkaeetr4XXG9mg76yUyw0KwKnHcs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pk7H61Z+e29TzNEDSilPTcksP3LBOZ6fZe9UZ1SMMKW3ywSHY+us2J/fP5O7jWBz1L zmB7eI9LSVmI62/oDCz7JZvUT3TkgNqaYuaiMgvanL3BRGL75TUqM34n7JvI3ernlNRB 7SOYHPOA0PpUvxxIrfAd6nDbXMeBvSId2Qqag= Message-ID: <4CF41172.2060806@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:47:46 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers References: <4CF3F4DF.3040606@tiscali.co.uk> <4CF410F4.4010308@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <4CF410F4.4010308@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:47:50 +0000 (UTC) van Sinn schrieb: > Which is another good reason the my suggested Mackie HR624 mk2's, > going down to 37hz, even though outfitted with a mere 6½" driver. Those 37Hz are your own measurements? I'm asking because Mackie specifies them as going down to 49Hz, the 37Hz are specified for the 824s (with a 8.75'' driver). Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 22:08:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73B7E3BE8A; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:08:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CF42439.8030600@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:07:53 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #712 for November 25, 2010. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:08:55 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/101125.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #712 November 25, 2010. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Dan Pound. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Trance Meditation" on Pound Sounds Records. I also played music by Chuck Van Zyl who will be playing concerts in the area including the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 5. Visit the events page for details. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) The Ministry of Set 2, Part 2 Live at the Ice House June 22, Inside Things 2002 (None) Axess Pictures Fusion (Spheric Music) Different Skies Sodium Lamplighter Arcosanitarium (Earth Mantra) Robert Schroeder The Zong Cream (Spheric Music) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Dan Pound Trance Meditation Trance Meditation (Pound One Sounds) Dan Pound Trance Meditation Trance Meditation (Pound Two Sounds) Dan Pound Trance Meditation Trance Meditation (Pound Three Sounds) Dan Pound Trance Meditation Trance Meditation (Pound Four Sounds) Dan Pound Trance Meditation Trance Meditation (Pound Five Sounds) Dan Pound Trance Meditation Trance Meditation (Pound Six Sounds) Dan Pound Trance Meditation Trance Meditation (Pound Seven Sounds) Lemonchill En Larmes Sleeping With Giants (Ricochet Side Liner Remix Dream) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "EMS VCS3 Experiment 1" which is self-released. Chuck van Zyl, who is playing several concerts in the area to celebrate the release of his new album "MemorySpace" will perform a live set on Galactic Travels. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 22:44:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B36E3BE8C; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O6ZiWcolrDIcr5ZZ/9gJCgzko2lfAFI9mQMK+BBjo3c=; b=FgBzMjQOjYblCNHwy7Dr83uzAlRex6FYgYhL+Ef8+LHl9hFzOE2SpWfBpAjXl90L6H PruoG3Hm/4CWBuZcMXzpXir728goCErXU+4Np8YTL7GHEGSOfHyMRBrLIrTcf1037yuI 5yFeo2A8ttTGa3C9aPZ8TV0QcogBENKVBupGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xwHFmrahQ5715m+Ws0fDGEcIwgwR6Eb5cjtEm9WC/4qLA0TREbd0dnIXR7pnz0ZWxr pJWj52vzerUFFsf2E6IqffA0Q6ldt+fdcAHKqJij2A/z8+1Al4ggE6m+VaC1GPv4KvyG qfhlrr4GSwBYrcfVdoB1eRpTvqSEMGDH6x/8s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <562176.67087.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:44:17 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: pedalboards From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:44:18 +0000 (UTC) ...it would be blissful to have a rig that takes 2 minutes to set up instead of 20 minutes. Are pedalboards typically flexible to changes? For example, if I needed to remove a pedal or if a bought a new one, would it be easy to do? -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > I don't know what your budget is, but I went ahead and spent the money to > have Rooster at Trailer Trash Pedalboards wire my board up for me. Best > decision I ever made gear wise. I knew it wouldn't be cheap, but it's done > right, and the board is dead silent. The power supplies are mounted under > the board, too. I have pics, if you are interested. > > Jeff > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 23:18:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1652A3BE8D; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Who be using what? From: "Andy Owens" Thread-topic: Who be using what? Thread-index: AcuQG7GtDa6B4C9UQviRATggsR82jw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:17:22 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2010 23:18:32.0889 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD8DBA90:01CB901B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Patrick was asking who be using what.=20 I am in western North Carolina and have played bluegrass and acoustic and wh= atever since 1975. I live way in the sticks and starting looping out of frus= tration of not having as many people around to jam with as I like.=20 As far as instruments I have, road and live and loop ready, acoustic mandoli= n, electric mandolin, octave =20 mandolin, mandola, electric mandola, mandocello, acoustic guitar (1956 Marti= n d28), electric guitar (tele), squareneck dobro, lap steel, pedal steel, ro= undneck dobro, electric banjo, acoustic banjo, P bass, upright bass, bass ma= ndolin (1920's Gibson), acoustic fiddle, electric fiddle, percussion rack, R= oland elect drum kit, hammond organ module, yamaha tg55 keys, and probably s= omething I am forgetting.=20 All those instruments are world class and with state of the art pickup syste= ms installed as I have a Fishman endorsement for ten years now. I run all t= he strings to a Fishman Aura, on which I have spent years tweaking the image= s making them sound the best possible when amplified. The Aura has midi cont= rol to select the proper image.=20 Then I have a digitech 1101 which also I have spent countless hours setting u= p sounds for each instrument. The 1101 has midi out so that when I choose a c= ertain instrument on the 1101, it changes the Aura to the proper setting for= that instrument.=20 I then have a Rane CM86 mixer, which has eight channels, one for keys, organ= , strings, drum machine, two vocal mics and a/b inserts which I have=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 23:31:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D02333BE84; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 756327.16937.bm@omp1016.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1291073511; bh=zrJ3noDF+PAJpxJ4AMFYpxO3LoB6IEZMXw2bMrpA784=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4NUB/NtVbf2qmnI3ouiVaBWeEiB+PSNed3z3d35JenGQkql1tmHe57FoszoJs7g8/5nZbROTsdjCJIkq0xaYrJBQ9WW3dixugeJMPD5C9iK7Kt1NIHd6pFQVsQ9yiVYjphmalO6VDd1Bp9v6ztTl2/6vy/Vra7en7lwtS9qoowI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NQF04A5r5+kKBdzz9NF6ZVZejVN9AymB4Up6Gd4O2tQ9TuNsEegC1BoHsXY379wdT5AfJ5RyF9IBVPZhyPFckm8pq2C+JVe+dyE5KJYXLThjDWNUN+eKNNEgG54I2bvfkaHj6SsvGcy9ZbEHbQiIm9LvUAf5PfKHkBHV46yEmuU=; Message-ID: <627829.59724.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8sDU_HwVM1nCWwHHEG35dmY4ViVQImOlHe2zX0YxO1LwXLP mbPEEh7U1RMpy75U3CozFN1DayporT4oLavSfd5TxBKgsgblKVgWnyrdMla4 mFeNgHuRVIbZATf20TCxkeKIC1I9OezYPzH3qplUnl0R0PY9b1_1ICItvEDC beZUcg2uz5cJNQtXfWBvuEbgtuUR..26Zn8lB3_59w1iDaZab2dQSoPeqBvE CxrocIncyabdUePzonokBiHBZuppIpXw_AmudEpsD7G7lC38ngj8FHHFP48R hMH1r_rSOvFHWK.Aj51.VOh42e5ER8BNAeZRFYHuO_nmWLFXi5GCYA01wHra 8hkieILWy X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.9 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:31:51 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: OT: pedalboards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1700432630-1291073511=:59724" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:31:52 +0000 (UTC) --0-1700432630-1291073511=:59724 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've generally found that the ease of reconfiguring a pedalboard is inversely proportional with how securely the pedals are fastened to the board. The "hook" part of Velcro (on the pedal) sticks pretty well to polypropylene auto carpet (on the board) and is repositionable, but inevitably (given the weight of the pedals) the Velcro hook and loop part ends up being stronger than the adhesive on the back of the Velcro. When I was gigging 4-5 times a week and had settled into a board that didn't have to be changed very often, I had the pedals held down by lamp cord and screws with washers. It held them very well, but made changes inconvenient... -t- http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson --- On Mon, 11/29/10, Matt Davignon wrote: From: Matt Davignon Subject: Re: OT: pedalboards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 5:44 PM ...it would be blissful to have a rig that takes 2 minutes to set up instead of 20 minutes. Are pedalboards typically flexible to changes? For example, if I needed to remove a pedal or if a bought a new one, would it be easy to do? --0-1700432630-1291073511=:59724 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I've generally found that the ease of reconfiguring a pedalboard is inversely proportional with how securely the pedals are fastened to the board.

The "hook" part of Velcro (on the pedal) sticks pretty well to polypropylene auto carpet (on the board) and is repositionable, but inevitably (given the weight of the pedals) the Velcro hook and loop part ends up being stronger than the adhesive on the back of the Velcro.

When I was gigging 4-5 times a week and had settled into a board that didn't have to be changed very often, I had the pedals held down by lamp cord and screws with washers. It held them very well, but made changes inconvenient...

-t-

http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson


--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT: pedalboards
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 5:44 PM

...it would be blissful to have a rig that takes 2 minutes to set up
instead of 20 minutes.

Are pedalboards typically flexible to changes? For example, if I
needed to remove a pedal or if a bought a new one, would it be easy to
do?


--0-1700432630-1291073511=:59724-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 29 23:58:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2E763BE84; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=noecqztX7G46DQZNopxPR+wLy9lQikQIOEQkc6zHH1Y=; b=BUcGmYhmr4VJ6c0KKpdljKckqS0xKwRKh8yhz8stof7x4SFVBefc/oF6cv0EuUlZN0 F5uBcANE7QJgZdCkZmz8u1Bf6ySuoESSpBTE4ZzpLk3R3ELBMx+tsTxmyyXJPQaZ2gBN 4PB4vFspeN0zK4D7Sf313orfbCoV6hqVZv3fQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JQSlfv8dAqJXMui03s9bCByLfPpVr5qxmvIQ/GUIifCr9fpWU5EkBGTvIvq8abiiKN 8fbtOTDL7/j2WpHsuTp5o3DKSZFiSnoC9vu4bU87Utf1Y1rEGD9C0SrrhnWHZq8IaSwz AjqiNqY7BWfdR/EzZNPWVDw49VQSIeXLU8FIQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <86B56528-A633-44E9-9EBE-6400EFE06FAC@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:57:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: best software strings From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34afb658b2c049639d7a7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:58:00 +0000 (UTC) --001636d34afb658b2c049639d7a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 this ones seem amazing though http://www.cinematicstrings.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22&Itemid=92 any experiences with the Motu symphonic? i listened in yotube but wasn not very impressed... On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:08 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Do you or anyone else actually HAVE that Kontakt 4 pack... its pretty > cheap, > > I have Kontakt 4 and the library that comes with it (string parts from > the Viena STrings). They sound good. I also have the East West Gold > Symphony and that also sounds good but it is sampled with quite a lot > hall ambience (not close miked). Some good bread and butter orchestral > percussion in the EW Gold. I run the EW in K4 which is nice because > some patches are set up to cross between different kind of samples and > that makes it kind of more expressive. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --001636d34afb658b2c049639d7a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this ones seem amazing though

http://www.cinematicstrings.com/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&= ;view=3Darticle&id=3D22&Itemid=3D92

any experiences with the Motu symphonic? i listened in yotube but wasn = not very impressed...



On Mon, Nov= 29, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:08 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Do you or anyone else actually HAVE that Konta= kt 4 pack... its pretty cheap,

I have Kontakt 4 and the library that comes with it (string parts fro= m
the Viena STrings). They sound good. I also have the East West Gold
Symphony and that also sounds good but it is sampled with quite a lot
hall ambience (not close miked). Some good bread and butter orchestral
percussion in the EW Gold. I run the EW in K4 which is nice because
some patches are set up to cross between different kind of samples and
that makes it kind of more expressive.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--001636d34afb658b2c049639d7a7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 00:19:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E87493BE8B; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Oops From: "Andy Owens" Thread-topic: Oops Thread-index: AcuQJDMZJhrpb6D+SLyoshrQYqG9/A== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <80B1F9A1-2D0D-4540-99D9-72413BF441B1@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:18:24 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2010 00:19:22.0881 (UTC) FILETIME=[3D1E4F10:01CB9024] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Oops hadnt finished that post, pushed send instead of save, will finish and r= esend Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 04:44:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 179AC3BE89; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 04:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05af01cb9049$31069b40$6400a8c0@vulcan> From: "d.nix" To: References: <562176.67087.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: OT: pedalboards Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:43:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: <6qdzeD.A.OqH.ZEI9MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 04:44:09 +0000 (UTC) if you can handle 1/4 audio jacks and velcro, I think you could probably survive... :-) Unless you are getting Pete Cornish to rehouse everything and mount it in a floor case, most pedal boards are literally just metal frames with slots or channels for cables and a flat surface to attach velcro tape to hold your pedals... Thats what my Pedal Train unit is... > Are pedalboards typically flexible to changes? For example, if I > needed to remove a pedal or if a bought a new one, would it be easy to > do? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 05:18:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B7D53BE86; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 05:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7886F006BD6147D4BFBE3CE071E417AB@PHIL> From: "Stephen P Goodman" To: References: <20101127071956.95a0a121071e8df19db85607a1a5a351.1f0b57eb9e.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> Subject: My GR-20's on the way! Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:18:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: <3dyTmD.A.df.DlI9MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 05:18:59 +0000 (UTC) I've also got a transparent blue Steinberger Synapse coming to me as an early birthday prezzie. Oh, what fun awaits... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 05:45:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 494583BE86; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 05:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eJ8/zbFe/gSbMrgtwHGwspeXCXMHO5Jw3WrJOh1TvRw=; b=YVW+XcG5a7r/qy/IGNjs5P1NmSbyOaDvsPjjTRrt57KqblSB33wUEKldjwv5SdZ5qD ESeXkArhoWvctnzNITYGhmYy4EV9xs0++SRFbd7CoLpgDdjasn/sCsO8HVv/fp5lTyge 36tr11FVW199G7cw7I2WmtrixUznHmTk4H9Vk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=U3IT/7het2q5nLgzitIJkhdMQzZ9L1MRZgU5Hi7si/7F6Sc9iSpq9c2slk7AI8nmrO 4Op5sc09r0avQYX37tHsu11WgO89h7mH4T23uXeoWiH9VQhH+lRr9Sp4ZLcIMdfwk4FW W1TeGiGpvqrVLuCZOYWOkQNgDBHpPa9xBim5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7886F006BD6147D4BFBE3CE071E417AB@PHIL> References: <20101127071956.95a0a121071e8df19db85607a1a5a351.1f0b57eb9e.wbe@email00.secureserver.net> <7886F006BD6147D4BFBE3CE071E417AB@PHIL> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:45:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: My GR-20's on the way! From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549dbdd6dec304963eb286 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 05:45:40 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549dbdd6dec304963eb286 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You will love it (DD 20) Stephen! Get or make a momentary footswitch. I use it for tap tempo (delay length). My Boss FS 5- died so I made one that works much better and cheaply. Is that the rolling capo baritone model Synapse? They all look pretty sweet :) Jeff On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Stephen P Goodman < spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote: > I've also got a transparent blue Steinberger Synapse coming to me as an > early birthday prezzie. Oh, what fun awaits... --20cf30549dbdd6dec304963eb286 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You will love it (DD 20) Stephen! Get or make a momentary footswitch. I use= it for tap tempo (delay length). My Boss FS 5- died so I made one that wor= ks much better and cheaply.

Is that the rolling capo baritone model = Synapse? They all look pretty sweet :)

Jeff

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:18 AM= , Stephen P Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
I've also got a transparent blue Steinberger Synapse coming to me as an= early birthday prezzie. =A0Oh, what fun awaits...

--20cf30549dbdd6dec304963eb286-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 06:10:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0B1C3BE8B; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iz06x+HL13wzWkhZHt+hx1Yb4TtaCzVZedo6wOaDdzs=; b=WOyCL1N2h/4hhxuJmjxqvfskfa7LQ1JWkG7EYX/GKe3ssVbDIsTd+5UqD3NygYBJ8+ N+D+l+kAjYoiD82wlOQh+4BDpWFdpAGWnWRzgzu2ti8LiRZpjq5X7ZuQSXgeeZfAbglY Et8NNmiOSbQhtVBbkally/BFmDqzOT3UFlE0I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LbplQM3RWoHDi4flm5L+bwH+hopyQMLiUXgBfPhSY2Xl/qT1Y6e+cqzBZK/D1uC0OP 3ci9TbPrKxwyC3wtSSRCvg1MGDSoKnEbTvxAjW2BvUvn4dTQ+Ev5v6MfDpm2F6jwmSul PzztP7+DJKUtn/I59Uj3mcfKkkoUE+lHMQfIE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:10:34 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: OT: French composers are leaving France for the US? From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:10:36 +0000 (UTC) I was shocked when I read this quote from today's NY times (on an article about French professors leaving France for the US): "The brain drain in French academia has been observed in other arenas, as well. The field of musical composition, for example has been hurt by the trend, and composers are few, training offers scarce and jobs rare. =93We are in the process of killing contemporary music in France,=94 said an unidentified composer cited in the report." Really, I'm shocked. It doesn't seem like the US right now is really flowering with interest in contemporary music. I thought with IRCAM's rich history, not the least of which is that it's the origin of MAX, France was the mecca for contemporary music. I guess I'm out of touch. Also, I guess I'm shocked because I just love France and French culture. Of all the people who might want to leave France, the last I'd pick would be French composers. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/22/world/europe/22iht-educSide22.html?ref=3D= education --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 06:17:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF7803BE8F; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5B39DF9AACAB408C8865AA3CD9872294@PHIL> From: "Stephen P Goodman" To: References: <20101127071956.95a0a121071e8df19db85607a1a5a351.1f0b57eb9e.wbe@email00.secureserver.net><7886F006BD6147D4BFBE3CE071E417AB@PHIL> Subject: Re: My GR-20's on the way! Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 01:17:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB902C.63C2E970" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:17:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB902C.63C2E970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I still haven't gotten the DD20 actually as it was difficult to get in = the UK... but have been using Angstrolooper in the online performances. = The Steinberger I got is the Synapse ST2FPA Transcale transparent blue. = Hope it comes before I head back to the US! Steinberger Synapse ST-2FPA TranScale Custom Electric Guitar=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:45 AM Subject: Re: My GR-20's on the way! You will love it (DD 20) Stephen! Get or make a momentary footswitch. = I use it for tap tempo (delay length). My Boss FS 5- died so I made one = that works much better and cheaply. Is that the rolling capo baritone model Synapse? They all look pretty = sweet :) Jeff On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Stephen P Goodman = wrote: I've also got a transparent blue Steinberger Synapse coming to me as = an early birthday prezzie. Oh, what fun awaits...=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB902C.63C2E970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I still haven't gotten the DD20 = actually as it was=20 difficult to get in the UK... but have been using Angstrolooper in the = online=20 performances.  The Steinberger I got is the Synapse ST2FPA = Transcale=20 transparent blue.  Hope it comes before I head back to the = US!
 

Steinberger Synapse ST-2FPA TranScale Custom = Electric Guitar=20

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff Duke=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, = 2010 12:45=20 AM
Subject: Re: My GR-20's on the = way!

You will love it (DD 20) Stephen! Get or make a = momentary=20 footswitch. I use it for tap tempo (delay length). My Boss FS 5- died = so I=20 made one that works much better and cheaply.

Is that the = rolling capo=20 baritone model Synapse? They all look pretty sweet = :)

Jeff

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Stephen P = Goodman=20 <spgoodman@earthlight.net>= =20 wrote:
I've also got a transparent blue Steinberger = Synapse=20 coming to me as an early birthday prezzie.  Oh, what fun = awaits...=20

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CB902C.63C2E970-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 06:29:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E13063BE8B; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=twJ5qCEpVfJhc7ASnt2SbkMOvE0bNvg4nIakd08pG4Q=; b=Q4qAOdHEidSJhBJpiJ5u2s6JLXPgIy2Slp/Fn4HudlbrncyogDCljEj3/9k51k0dGf cdoYxxvPHnSreFQn+MbfU3Qvnsp2+Tv+jhXVfOz8vgx4h2XuUqG7aVvudIarAOxom604 dCitWynIhdpBB+TNIJYYJWkQl8XQude0uj24E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HPKqpTRcvVRm9dx0/qA/uFphOR1YfdyKAa2NcZz76WSmDRAnnRmldLHxkZSh6/71C7 7o9QRq5FxVQG20+EEjIJBCPedW2tan6+ZnOuTY00GSsiCFddNEpXCxTlwUoByqOY1TPY lI/I/CHxTGf62nofY7rT3cdyS8x+lA/dglexs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 01:29:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: sequencers From: james fowler To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56af0145ce804963f5158 Resent-Message-ID: <35LbTB.A.qiC.inJ9MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:29:54 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd56af0145ce804963f5158 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 it's becoming clear that i need to get away from mouse-clicking my drum tracks. i have a friend who swears by his mpc60 and i've read very good things about maschine...and i'm already a big ni fan...so, anybody got some insight? i can look up technical ins and outs...i'd prefer tips, tricks, preferences, your personal approach and how it works. thanks. - jim --000e0cd56af0145ce804963f5158 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable it's becoming clear that i need to get away from mouse-clicking my drum= tracks.=A0 i have a friend who swears by his mpc60 and i've read very = good things about maschine...and i'm already a big ni fan...so, anybody= got some insight?=A0 i can look up technical ins and outs...i'd prefer= tips, tricks, preferences, your personal approach and how it works.

thanks.

- jim
--000e0cd56af0145ce804963f5158-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 07:22:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63C5A3BE89; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1291101739; bh=Tmt8OzMSeaFRHTkpG7ACc+G4qhmBeeTc2k83m/Ppu5Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IA2gJp3huZ0UlHHwWpiH8xjChfx5CwFXpNyjvIPR8qp1JWeZDev3PMXJDn0srRGFww4Iqg8Mh0ZbvbYryULi0AiV0I0X+GGvJRfhCGFAkO6P8rohyO/2g6J3NAKqEIbuss+qGeDsTXeT6kdTy4CZoYgiVC0hm3ektibSyhCpkDU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e8HALaJP16u2qhW5F26jASv8RPForiDJ1O0u7EDZleldx5zEvg3wfzMmlQxERdS7dqnmqVyQTXgqtrOE8jEFsL8YGoD3Ix9AuNA1yWDkd09AOoZoBlGWJJpp0MKoN/PmPzwuUrvUFztW+aEiV2fNOPsGEMPnVHLoKP+H16TlTiY=; Message-ID: <390847.40363.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TKbbnxEVM1lZdQhaBTL3zuo81px7BODXGQyhS6cJB0zGYy8 VmuVeQPTe4l5uBfLjF.avpMnsaoHcd6nHjvFCY85fhfCW9CahWrjxv4bcSC_ LXtEkWgFKPbprXNu_aAW7N6ZuWpdbwFY6ruDHl8ZcmpbccrQMajZWMW_j7a0 _twQ0R5x.fb3bsin.fyHCRJfveNO1cevxcWobqCSzwzq1q0up8T2FGHGZYhz niiks.ooedvcCDbzZ09Vlxkjqy8uflTt.M86H.Wv4BdLGTMCLeGuZgA.Bj8C nicAdzpUZmL0tquJZ8_JX43LXkkg- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:22:18 -0800 (PST) From: Antony Hequet Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <2klJa.A.-hD.sYK9MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:22:20 +0000 (UTC) I second that the Dynaudio BM5A are great and good value. I did an article for French mag and compared everything I could get my hands on. Those came out on top. I prefer PMC because I don't like subs. Antony Sent from my iPhone On 2010-11-29, at 19:30, Rainer Straschill wrote: Fabio_A schrieb: Hi there, I decided to buy a monitor speakers system, but have ho idea which model to choose. I'm a newby in this regards, so please let me know your experience. Very much has to do with personal taste... I personally use a pair of Dynaudio BM5A (which, following some reviews AND my personal impression, are better than the more expensive one BM6A). I never could quite get the hang of the Genelecs ('though I think they're less tiring for very prolonged listening periods), nor could I get the hang of the Mackies (can't understand how anyone would characterize them as "analytical"). So my recommendation: the Dynaudio BM5A. If you want to spend more, get the BM9S sub as well. Btw, the Fireface you're using does not have an analogue (post-converter) level dial for its outputs, so getting a passive volume control may be a good idea. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 08:09:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF7A43BE87; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wgrFzmeT+s4dc7BLzjR2VmfFBtBSjtRDKl9+MRPCP2g=; b=U9aREWITubFwWOyb5nIyzYNoEUl9LOtQeJ1G7Gf/AKJ1iktIDWvFvZ2Eajhh7v2T1o fiaCeM7ILAxnUTYmzE6di28RHAjd4dquFZjZJ87CJ5Yid612T1TFMkIwK2VCNZvWkYda BTxlSmPV8ACCf2xKqZgEwlp+no+20YkXo0bjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JOqRbkqJoQa64/abs2EEGgnQXwM/JQOql4dmv5Yb+yOK1VxTN0rvyLW0Z8EESNzVuF seu7ePMLShqYBRwI9bc03o/bzo48VPlihs2tMaIjDGui6LDj3sJx6jEW3RNcRsyQQBJ1 HoKnKXC1AqUD9qDMdS4LjlQogUUo6MHm2OOb8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:09:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: French composers are leaving France for the US? From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f4cb7ffa11049640b471 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:09:17 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f4cb7ffa11049640b471 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for posting this. I hadn't heard anything about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were more to it than meets the eye. Sure, the French Academy is very closed and hard to crack, but consider the fields the article is looking at. As for music, we're talking about academic music, which is very specialized. Otherwise, France is a good place for musicians and composers because, as the article mentions, quality of life is a priority here, and that means the arts are supported. I wonder if research grants supported by big business and multi-nationals isn't behind this so-called brain drain. Biology is very lucrative when pu= t into that context, and economics isn't far behind when one considers the funding available through politically motivated think tanks. Doc Rossi On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Art Simon wrote: > I was shocked when I read this quote from today's NY times (on an > article about French professors leaving France for the US): > > "The brain drain in French academia has been observed in other arenas, > as well. The field of musical composition, for example has been hurt > by the trend, and composers are few, training offers scarce and jobs > rare. =93We are in the process of killing contemporary music in France,= =94 > said an unidentified composer cited in the report." > > Really, I'm shocked. It doesn't seem like the US right now is really > flowering with interest in contemporary music. I thought with IRCAM's > rich history, not the least of which is that it's the origin of MAX, > France was the mecca for contemporary music. I guess I'm out of touch. > Also, I guess I'm shocked because I just love France and French > culture. Of all the people who might want to leave France, the last > I'd pick would be French composers. > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/22/world/europe/22iht-educSide22.html?ref= =3Deducation > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --00163630f4cb7ffa11049640b471 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for posting this. =A0I hadn't heard anything about it, but I wou= ldn't be surprised if there were more to it than meets the eye. =A0Sure= , the French Academy is very closed and hard to crack, but consider the fie= lds the article is looking at. As for music, we're talking about academ= ic music, which is very specialized. Otherwise, France is a good place for = musicians and composers because, as the article mentions, quality of life i= s a priority here, and that means the arts are supported.

I wonder if research grants supported by big business and mu= lti-nationals isn't behind this so-called brain drain. =A0Biology is ve= ry lucrative when put into that context, and economics isn't far behind= when one considers the funding available through politically motivated thi= nk tanks.

Doc Rossi

On Tue, Nov= 30, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
I was shocked when I read this quote from today's NY times (on an
article about French professors leaving France for the US):

"The brain drain in French academia has been observed in other arenas,=
as well. The field of musical composition, for example has been hurt
by the trend, and composers are few, training offers scarce and jobs
rare. =93We are in the process of killing contemporary music in France,=94<= br> said an unidentified composer cited in the report."

Really, I'm shocked. It doesn't seem like the US right now is reall= y
flowering with interest in contemporary music. I thought with IRCAM's rich history, not the least of which is that it's the origin of MAX, France was the mecca for contemporary music. I guess I'm out of touch.<= br> Also, I guess I'm shocked because I just love France and French
culture. Of all the people who might want to leave France, the last
I'd pick would be French composers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/22/w= orld/europe/22iht-educSide22.html?ref=3Deducation
--
Art Simon
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--00163630f4cb7ffa11049640b471-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 08:42:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC1DE3BE86; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fpQ6HSAjWkwoDeew0O/n5CvVNDMx7sGFQtg9r457a+o=; b=nHwIADT2HyRb5i0/Zrqn5bPjelxyBJ/qR7PkVhB8S+RuSZpk7kNNUbt3/FQZHS5qd7 XvPpUQkAnb8ljUxJPp25yBH8e46p+Kt1lmQ2Oa8alFgM6pANXsHqeuBEKUdHF1kkxDlw g8NqHmBt6of0fi7+u0uyKEnB5LQsOQglqoS2E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EbNYhD1mWQKqgYyeHo3Hi7y95f9BrnrWD6uj6RxRQAwF/WTAQOcBmV71o6nMEHs9+u p6FvTOb3DNcrJwZH7v390OX2zrt0+wiQihUTGn4jUxNvcSqcXIMyjvyHWvoXBITbClku 78OzLgEOCLp9DjO7nO5lvo/irr9eECaJomanU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:42:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: French composers are leaving France for the US? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Indeed surprising, given the fact that while most European countries are adapting to the bad economic times by decreasing tax financed support for the arts France has increased that budget post by seven percent. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 08:58:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AA7E3BE7E; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vEkGHpXEVAKXJ3jh5+3Fw3pub1LnY9yBP3nrW1arB2Y=; b=iIzJmTP1DiuveX1ghHFMgQNnvLPi7hfBkeV9wCkoCQMylH6WXsdAV74apojC+cpjdn s7c6RYgVC/dFKWLAlexzc5hoRBKZ9VMWQq3yVqzt1mDf4Le7OhG3hR6f9XXo6A0mf4Uu bYaKtCcjDe02oLRwIQKk+YIe7Oe+zlFCCvkeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pgEFw5eYavoMFxaRR0tBaY22YENS6we7NpgrzvtVnpwrLwlmF+OH+fN6hBQo8XJ1ip ygVHfyw8UrOVKUJUYQZJWXkZh+oaCgzohz5U/3SJ895y90rcp8AQgUiqnxvbqPexueoo oRaP2mLOi3ybOKeYrq39Z0stt1muN3HFbByUE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:58:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequencers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:58:18 +0000 (UTC) As you're saying you are "mouse-clicking" I guess you already have a computer? Then any set up MIDI pads will give you an option to work MPC style to lay down drum tracks. For example Ableton Live can be quite "MPC-ish". And fxPansion Geist even duplicates the classic "pad drum roll" function of the MPC (pressing down a drum pad plays a drum roll as long as you keep it pressed down). Speaking about the specific sampler/performance hardware from Akai I have heard from a MPC user I know that the MPC 1000 is a good choice among today's models (the -60 model was discontinued long ago) http://www.akaipro.com/mpc Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:29 AM, james fowler wrote: > it's becoming clear that i need to get away from mouse-clicking my drum > tracks.=C2=A0 i have a friend who swears by his mpc60 and i've read very = good > things about maschine...and i'm already a big ni fan...so, anybody got so= me > insight?=C2=A0 i can look up technical ins and outs...i'd prefer tips, tr= icks, > preferences, your personal approach and how it works. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 09:11:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFBA43BE84; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CF4C1CE.7000004@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:20:14 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers References: <4CF3F4DF.3040606@tiscali.co.uk> <4CF410F4.4010308@post.cybercity.dk> <4CF41172.2060806@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4CF41172.2060806@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > van Sinn schrieb: > >> Which is another good reason the my suggested Mackie HR624 mk2's, >> going down to 37hz, even though outfitted with a mere 6½" driver. > > Those 37Hz are your own measurements? I'm asking because Mackie > specifies them as going down to 49Hz, the 37Hz are specified for the > 824s (with a 8.75'' driver). > > Rainer I'm so sorry about this misinformation. Yes, it's 49hz for the HR624. To clarify my mistake, I'm constantly reminded how much bass is in them, which is due to the slave mechanism, as this has a roll-off at only 12dB per octave. Compared to 18dB/oct for ported/reflex enclosures, which is the most common mechanism used with compact montors, this effectively extends the useful low end. They'll be coupled with an older Altec Lansing sub (need to redesign the sub cutoff filter), and as such feel the 49hz will provide me a system going sufficiently down in full stereo, before the mono sub kicks-in. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 09:32:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8B143BE7E; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=hCcsIXtzfU7/UYfIivokreSJYaZCRkmOe2DRcqs/66M=; b=Wv37nrwcj/zwJ8jyfdWVsQeuyXN5xdFcSdmWFGJ9HAuj1SN1/qeMVRz1wn6djIjI8V GPYGpYqtUKvBrA6TrhAgSqoybFidxPB79y3iGs1bzR/2j7z4SHKcbFZM0h47wv1xfimQ kSEVZB990YUHcu1g+W1ME1pqgQ7lwLbXuRR1E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=clKC7m+YLyYL8wIWR1RfZDlNj4Ik9e7A+T8K9P+0DH/6wV8x745ePBy98jz/qrxKCE NOXUHXCSpK85EcxkirUtba3g6W5xJpEWLyRMeZtGJt8/1V+xLTuVB8syQ7DG1F9j9X+U Kh+cOHW7CBq3tkLBQI84xQ2T5bN0y87VBrLtI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:32:24 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yC__NhmdyU9GSUILSANTvARvPn0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequencers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf304353e2f4afbe049641deda Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:32:45 +0000 (UTC) --20cf304353e2f4afbe049641deda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ... one more thing to add, are you absolutely SURE that you like the MPC style of sequence programming? Its an acquired taste, an for my eyes and fingers absolutely no different than assigning a different key in a keyboard to a sample... Well OK I get that one pad can be a whole different instrument, but it always seemed limittin to me. It is however the preferred input method for most Hip Hop producers, and I saw some amazing use of (hmm not sure of the make, korg perhaps, but mpc stylee) pad playing live with Animal Collective who use them alot. I certainly understand the feeling that you need a physical input to you sequencer... I just never never felt that tapping a little rubber button was really doing it for me... If I was you I would get a pretty ok ish keyboard from MAudio, that has a nice big keyboard, 8 pads for you to hey, and a bunch of slider and knobs... (I have the Axiom 61 and the Ozone... ) On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > As you're saying you are "mouse-clicking" I guess you already have a > computer? Then any set up MIDI pads will give you an option to work > MPC style to lay down drum tracks. For example Ableton Live can be > quite "MPC-ish". And fxPansion Geist even duplicates the classic "pad > drum roll" function of the MPC (pressing down a drum pad plays a drum > roll as long as you keep it pressed down). > > Speaking about the specific sampler/performance hardware from Akai I > have heard from a MPC user I know that the MPC 1000 is a good choice > among today's models (the -60 model was discontinued long ago) > http://www.akaipro.com/mpc > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:29 AM, james fowler wrote: > > it's becoming clear that i need to get away from mouse-clicking my drum > > tracks. i have a friend who swears by his mpc60 and i've read very good > > things about maschine...and i'm already a big ni fan...so, anybody got > some > > insight? i can look up technical ins and outs...i'd prefer tips, tricks, > > preferences, your personal approach and how it works. > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf304353e2f4afbe049641deda Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... one more thing to add, are you absolutely SURE that you like the MPC st= yle of sequence programming? Its an acquired taste, an for my eyes and fing= ers absolutely no different than assigning a different key in a keyboard to= a sample... Well OK I get that one pad can be a whole different instrument= , but it always seemed limittin to me. It is however the preferred input me= thod for most Hip Hop producers, and I saw some amazing use of (hmm not sur= e of the make, korg perhaps, but mpc stylee) pad playing live with Animal C= ollective who use them alot.

I certainly understand the feeling that you need a physical input to yo= u sequencer... I just never never felt that tapping a little rubber button = was really doing it for me...

If I was you I would get a pretty ok i= sh keyboard from MAudio, that has a nice big keyboard, 8 pads for you to he= y, and a bunch of slider and knobs... (I have the Axiom 61 and the Ozone...= )


On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
As you're saying you are "mouse-clicking" I guess you already= have a
computer? Then any set up MIDI pads will give you an option to work
MPC style to lay down drum tracks. For example Ableton Live can be
quite "MPC-ish". And fxPansion Geist even duplicates the classic = "pad
drum roll" function of the MPC (pressing down a drum pad plays a drum<= br> roll as long as you keep it pressed down).

Speaking about the specific sampler/performance hardware from Akai I
have heard from a MPC user I know that the MPC 1000 is a good choice
among today's models (the -60 model was discontinued long ago)
http://www.akaipro= .com/mpc

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:29 AM, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
> it's becoming clear that i need to get away from mouse-clicking my= drum
> tracks.=A0 i have a friend who swears by his mpc60 and i've read v= ery good
> things about maschine...and i'm already a big ni fan...so, anybody= got some
> insight?=A0 i can look up technical ins and outs...i'd prefer tips= , tricks,
> preferences, your personal approach and how it works.




--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf304353e2f4afbe049641deda-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 09:54:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 642633BE87; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lkDYcY1ryfh2voB8rjxOAUtEXD+6H6q1rYO2DjeBSNI=; b=V8xNTIDOS2HXxPB0WIev/ZvYqVd8VjW728zEeE0ii8urQ2W0rukGt49sO/0Pclry6Q FUW40bANTtfoB5jnfr+DShKrlmTJJbR+hGt52bT+r6VBPVViFFK5mYbVOGCXCAPhl9wB 2M47gnUUSKX14Ak8PZcrCnD9dapA1CDneYP1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FgEfWYmsWsYLEk5F+tpVAPiDcV4z9er3GmDJZZW6t3/OeS03w6Pc95nXbv7kU7jSCe t8YQPx6T4Ax1qiqLQtPHnN5g/tWWyYp4WZxzZeLPyryVSYxy78UvLZANYFYmz+T8IoSp cxM+0xXiW1pu/8LNa2IAFyGRRJrBcJs3Z2aHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:54:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequencers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:54:04 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM, mark francombe wrote: > If I was you I would get a pretty ok ish keyboard from MAudio, that has a > nice big keyboard, 8 pads for you to hey, and a bunch of slider and knobs... > (I have the Axiom 61 and the Ozone... ) KORG microKONTROL here. However, the "physical MIDI control surface" I use the most is my computer keyboard. I love it because it does not send velocity. But anything that sends MIDI when hammered on will do fine. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 10:07:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA6313BE7E; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=r+5MT+hqYpgX2XiTHcLQF4+OIDYSgL/ixhaZaAOQ9d0=; b=UyK1QDubKvxIThS6S7YafolRo8+55oTE+uA3NboSK68+JSpxSCGxdkKEYQmMyfyeb6 iX3i4uNItWoNsjt4zvgUoEF2kQimMHvgWnaAL8Rsoynwjy8CPShPITWPcYKYC5G99q9D 4VeFTHeYHpAydKsCfJ/GuXX9HoxztWCBeHzNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=vW3O06ojHcJvrFpeN/yqoykj5H72WRwLjdsl0AkoivOlBJfcaC8fU5IJA2qbkZ3iMd W97n8OcMjuClFYD5jvYwZS19u9idmo7WTIEEm8/uu/hUZaGkDYgC9Krb7g22uH2Vbtc6 OUqnxiWyKCOtewrNpkP8x/fuZWsyb5FAj8FyM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:07:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eQal6XvlUvYOJ2vJKCi8-q5yH3o Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequencers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf304353e233f9f40496425c48 Resent-Message-ID: <4WP4z.A.WPH.yzM9MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:07:46 +0000 (UTC) --20cf304353e233f9f40496425c48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > KORG microKONTROL here. You cant argue with 500 kroners for a little controller, thinking of getting one for mobius... I want some buttons to fire off scripts with, and my eyesight is so poor I cant use the keyboard onstage... well I can but its risky..! I cant agree with not having velocity however, for film music programming, its a necessity, both in terms of feel and speed. I know that doing 25 extra "takes" of a piano part, just to get the velocity of my playing right will still save time than going in and programming the velocitys by hand, despite the accuracy of that approach. I would do that if I had all the time in the world, but usually (OK ALWAYS..!!!) I get ... "Mark.. we need a piece of upbeat/sad/exiting/uplifting music.. we need it in 3 hours"... Im the KING of writing beginnings (that are faded out by video editors) Can't write an end to save my life! -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf304353e233f9f40496425c48 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
KORG microKONTROL here.

You cant argue with 500 krone= rs for a little controller, thinking of=20 getting one for mobius... I want some buttons to fire off scripts with,=20 and my eyesight is so poor I cant use the keyboard onstage... well I can but its risky..!

I cant agree with not having velocity however, for= film music programming, its a necessity, both in terms of feel and speed. = I know that doing 25 extra "takes" of a piano part, just to get t= he velocity of my playing right will still save time than going in and prog= ramming the velocitys by hand, despite the accuracy of that approach. I wou= ld do that if I had all the time in the world, but usually (OK ALWAYS..!!!)= I get ...
"Mark.. we need a piece of upbeat/sad/exiting/uplifting music.. we nee= d it in 3 hours"...

Im the KING of writing beginnings (that ar= e faded out by video editors)

Can't write an end to save my lif= e!

--
mark francombe
www.m= arkfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkha= o.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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--20cf304353e233f9f40496425c48-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 11:02:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAA263BE86; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 740352.18728.bm@omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1291114955; bh=MJAHAFeFtRpq0OLdmdFKzn/DarKRQeqCkJlA38Ic4P8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DBSNVTinwV/2jJmds4AlTy9O6S/vL8zorn1soXJNn89ZiF4fUdABGi7Y5X8iZt6uU1niTdAVDTDbMPXSNqRLA+a31RDVU16q6aH/eBfEcCq3H2BgiKnSc1K7w+t8sBWkjs9Tr+crlOcVqZEzgYm2Nq5h5CBFvbW2YZbCDW8Nu2k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uCt6c/tttVFMk1IPapwnAutSXZGMTrwYhHNcWZv95VZqeCdJLZtjj10DeXVguvTB/HcswDyeLgA0O0kXI+DMZKCRMb3kkU5MtSF0kIoAUxHW3ccSRlAhaFKbtupGQFDQ1IAcdvqv+HZa/ulO0MPk2nBTkKM5/fesEdqVQOKSn0U=; Message-ID: <963120.31107.qm@web113407.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zLEcpxAVM1mebfH6L5OrDAgLRznC1QKZniuxDl0FXRd42Ir Cpq_z60hMNsvbzxtatZFy8LFLOhQzX6nJryhEDFJlkLXnD98VJAv5ogpqat2 3fvHVKrY2qZ8oDcz_olrTyaXw0w7E9bonH7TPZdJRnoyv1nHzbn.sVHJ9Ccz _6u8dfW5HX.DDjphBFKXQuZ7.zCW1nBrJ31KUHA3o5FRTabrsKzhmVehVJJv fiYpCdWQtK17o.ibgipLvK2EuJLwL0zJV_5zRSIDLF8c59_PyzX.F5qvL5P_ QPpY__Oh.WJ5uw6qDLPuWq9DBGA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 03:02:35 -0800 (PST) From: John Hefter Subject: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1751043631-1291114955=:31107" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:02:37 +0000 (UTC) --0-1751043631-1291114955=:31107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --0-1751043631-1291114955=:31107 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

--0-1751043631-1291114955=:31107-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 11:06:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B7763BE89; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mx2DeOtG2UMrk3s/9/8pfYo+pEVduw9pa0FW6fhzFec=; b=aykvsR8nhI84e0Yw4tRySff5Oxo5glRsSeCSpslP+mYhzZ4PjCMYcO9GIQyGe66GtQ YWHkl3tYmXsl9/WtLh0wKHo6p4+z3UIIGZDCKRwnedfximOeYH6RYRuHfq5bT2fBA4fb p+Kk3OFh5tWDY+UdkSWdnlb2BRh14QzqKP9Wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fo//7n2LfQYuFKncQAXkIEEGofeoYVY3EhqvTeQuAypJQ3aVQfzphAbqcx+irX6TeR 1JxDGs4RPNLvaCTTfblul1VQiwyMO0hJMXoWIwFdRh1C2EEP1ZZJh2lwN8513CA3ATXM 9DvWTHA3b4tifXOzaXG6xAYJSuJ+zcLFAGun0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:06:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequencers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:06:15 +0000 (UTC) > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> KORG microKONTROL here. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:07 AM, mark francombe wrote: > You cant argue with 500 kroners for a little controller, thinking of getting > one for mobius... You may mistake the microKONTROL for the nanoKONTROL? My micro stays in the studio though. Too big to bring for gigs. But in the studio it is really nice to have a simple keyboard with drumming pads and lots of faders on, just to pop in the USB when needing to play something in. The baby sized plastic keys are good enough for my piano chops. > I want some buttons to fire off scripts with, and my > eyesight is so poor I cant use the keyboard onstage... well I can but its > risky..! Well, in the past I depended a lot on the computer keyboard to fire off Mobius scripts on stage, but now when I host it in Mainstage 2 that isn't an option. I have my scripts assigned to two other devices; one very small FaderFox hand button pad (64 buttons in two cig pack's space!!!) and also my LG2 foot controller. > I cant agree with not having velocity however, for film music programming, > its a necessity, both in terms of feel and speed. Jeezzzzzz.....!!! I was talking simple drum programming that this thread still was about... or at least I thought so! For playing anything that is not supposed to go "BLAM" I wouldn't dream of skipping over velocity! In fact I use the EWI just because of its superior real-time control over the software instrument's parameters. In fact that makes for more control than the 128 steps velocity allows (also using a bunch of real-time played cc#s to alter the timbre while holding notes). > Im the KING of writing beginnings (that are faded out by video editors) LOL! :-) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 11:10:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC8083BE81; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=zV7jcsWmUDWDXOCaiw+NWuAN7/FIGzD5NiGaK2YvS6Y=; b=vGOI1E+HL2I+D3tkKe6uxiPzelimlGtmAOlBHFZSqxj+MEDh30ZcMeJT4SEp71GDme +6xBzlS5DA8h1RWXS1lS8ZSYp/lroVojwWe6/CwEp5p8N+EbA5ytl2SQzk6NrMuguVSo 4lDCaSTL+QOKABLYMGLO2oFzbIedpSez5xw9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=TvKV/lbsEpobsmuJB+SmrRTFPLI0eQR9L5SIPd5u2Fnta44b8wLPMq28HUljyt8sWa pRJOa/eTuGEx20Z4qWu8ZxHsS3f9q5TYsTCeHlJBRziLbF/Chw0pG6Gp6u6qMXPiQDlW /o+wQBVB9c/MTNOLkGP5zcKHtxFf7g39Zc+es= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:10:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ciS6l7Pv93E67LSbdaqQgP_6lns Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequencers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8f6e3edc910496433cac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:10:26 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8f6e3edc910496433cac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 on more than one occasion perboysen wrote: > FaderFox and I thought... hmm... yes.. did you say 64 buttons??? OK.. thats it.. wheres my bank card... -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8f6e3edc910496433cac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 on more than one occasion perboysen wrote:
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and I thought... hmm... yes.. did you say 64 buttons??? OK.. thats it.. wheres my bank card...


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--90e6ba6e8f6e3edc910496433cac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 11:21:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 634B93BE7E; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iEJQuehvL+5hkIbLjzxgUdjTyPPN7j677WMCAoR01f0=; b=E9rQ7Q04VOUo2vjm7tKSEYiaSnVzhPyjq/r7xO2/aZv9OhOcjCEkt729S/neJIfRTW NtVJSJKXuHfblgEzOBmSvHT9qtEVOJw7Ndnf2J/WtAjFCVX6rtn3tZ0pd2iERoHE+dZ1 Yu+PKIFmRpEjk+M9f40gRgdZ4y+lZPISzdZM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=O54+Xv626V6xQZyO2McLrGOcfNloF8sqTCP2Rd/orqo4zd55IzhJnoUURleidsPc8q LtciOXoMFtlNYyq0XZ/sqTUqo6/uPVcwZo6qkkr9192OsmjVn3bYMsSzuvLz7OP/BCMU VIyt9tzHe5jbNDb4J+bSkthgg/c4dXZ+lfVhc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:21:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequencers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:21:19 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:10 PM, mark francombe wrote: > on more than one occasion perboysen wrote: >> >> FaderFox > > and I thought... hmm... yes.. did you say 64 buttons??? OK.. thats it.. > wheres my bank card... Yes. I have a second one with faders too. Here's a picture: http://www.looproom.com/bilder/fadermob.jpg I bought them long ago from http://www.faderfox.de Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 11:23:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E4973BE8A; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=632SLsiAJU+HyO7sEWZAUuYwiqiFOaE2rwKJfjz4TlQ=; b=m9Aaj8/dXIRoY4J1o0N1LwNq6b0WAnp05hUK55gltYnlIjfy94MTblF3dS7JqSwjTl /trFvLAN9jv1do898kQSsmvzGKDxP69cb7C6UdT+mZhkOxQUohaqF3p1nMeUuM3EpVPL 7D+ldNJ8RR3tp6JUNV+5tmY323N2Ntze1f7hg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=C+wjjboSFfmXJifWmiXVGFf3/aD2zoKvkuvVcF7WcU+m0DIG4uUUtz56y3hByytXtf XOJmrOXA9MhwUwK6Q628F6cYOnt2LYyMfjlMhPqc381XtcYP225K2vf/Wf2co9QeB/jX 1nYkonLywt6vOeiIENId7cWPy0//YlqweJZ88= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:23:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequencers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:23:46 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Yes. I have a second one with faders too. Here's a picture: > http://www.looproom.com/bilder/fadermob.jpg > > I bought them long ago from http://www.faderfox.de ...to replace this monster: http://www.boysen.se/bilder/looping_rack.gif p ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 11:42:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6FAA3BE87; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=i7np77AzTmn/A38RS7NDvKU5EokBay8QTjlmP12vQ/c=; b=XpkIU1B5gQ9vqOE+pb01YtFuH+9BVuWH1NiW9mQYVIK9XNeL5vJioR3MZlVdg5xncU H9vDx0ZqLrbjqdcfABBBvVIZL79TwfytYQjpp49ILZC7sZb+8No6q7T1RResakKfsVze lfxNCmWB4LGygKfFMUhN2VGlHO0Sgt7fjDnMI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=jg6fRS9d5Yq67Lc47lQu4VSR2pZIv7S6Kk8HcLPNoMjdwrdXt/spZk4+mzbTAAjvJM bZC7JhdKzHc4yF1rwHvhAFhpKk8W0He1XJ6hfqlHjFzI6cfLa9VjTR9i68vAQIVBP+zY nljbaOA1vGXCYA4RksyscL+wcUzKCdMqpNaJM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:41:53 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nPVdEI0V2z2pnnNpTAbtKa0_Ce8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequencers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8c340fff9a049643aeb7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:42:14 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8c340fff9a049643aeb7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 call that a monster...? Man.. thats a puppy! http://lh5.ggpht.com/_F8oCbxcmyvE/SbzQsmuGLUI/AAAAAAAADrg/QqzrqcmuGAI/s400/DSC01385.JPG Now THATS a monster... (assume Crocodile Dundee voice) Seriously, which did you have in YK2X? I remember it having faders? Maybe the 64 button model is a bit overkill? Im looking for one with 4 to 8 faders, for volume fades, and some buttons to launch scripts, maybe 16? (or more)... Yes I did veer you off topic, sorry about that, It was me, I didn't notice that the topic was mostly regarding drum programming... then MPC does make some sense, but its very limiting, I still think a keyboard is the best option... Mark On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Yes. I have a second one with faders too. Here's a picture: > > http://www.looproom.com/bilder/fadermob.jpg > > > > I bought them long ago from http://www.faderfox.de > > ...to replace this monster: http://www.boysen.se/bilder/looping_rack.gif > > p ;-) > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --90e6ba6e8c340fff9a049643aeb7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable call that a monster...? Man.. thats a puppy!

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at = 12:23 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes. I have a second one with faders too. Here's a picture:
> http://www.looproom.com/bilder/fadermob.jpg
>
> I bought them long ago from http://www.faderfox.de

...to replace this monster: http://www.boysen.se/bilder/looping_rack.= gif

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--90e6ba6e8c340fff9a049643aeb7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 11:43:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BC1C3BE86; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CF4E35A.5080000@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 03:43:22 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Art Simon , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: OT: French composers are leaving France for the US? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Art Simon wrote: > Really, I'm shocked. It doesn't seem like the US right now is really > flowering with interest in contemporary music. I thought with IRCAM's > rich history, not the least of which is that it's the origin of MAX, > France was the mecca for contemporary music. I guess I'm out of touch. IRCAM has certainly been an amazing resource for talented french (and other) composers and producers. Because I live here in Santa Cruz, where Creative Labs and Emu Systems have been for a long time, I know that Creative has continually hired the best and brightest spacialization experts straight out of IRCAM. I've met so many brilliant spacialization experts and , indeed, one woman, Veronique Larcher was like Gertrude Stein in this area because she was so invested in producing new music events and connecting different musicians together. She was a godsend to our area, culturally and it was tragic to me, when she was forced to leave the area for economic reasons. But that's the rub: a lot of people coming out of new music programs everywhere either have possibilities to teach (which are diminishing rapidly at least in the US) or to take on high paying jobs like all the spacialization experts who came from France to our area, straight out of IRCAM. The same phenomenon can also be seen in Northern California, which really has a tendency to produce forward thinking and innovative artists (probably due to not only it's extremeley liberal and artistic intellectual climate but also due to the extreme wealth that existed here for so long with the Dot Com boom). By the way, paranthetically, I'm not saying that other countries or regions don't also have tons of creativity..........I'm not that insular...........lol There has been an astonishing brain drain of young musicians out of both the San Francisco and Monterey Bay areas because of economic hardships and how expensive it is to live here. Hundreds have moved to Portland, Oregon, Seattle, Washington, Austin, Texas, New York City, New York and out of the country to avoid how expensive and hard to exist that is for a typical Northern California artist. But you can't completely kill the French spirit any more than you can kill the Northern California spirit.............those composers are still creating amazing things and they are still French...... they just may feel that they can't afford to live in France any longer. It's happening all over the world, which is why we need to be vigilant as artists and we need to be focused on building community to counter the economic trends of a world that is working with increasingly diminishing resources with a population that is still swelling rapidly. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 12:01:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8C8E3BE86; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CF4E782.40301@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 04:01:06 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: OT: French composers are leaving France for the US? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Indeed surprising, given the fact that while most European countries > are adapting to the bad economic times by decreasing tax financed > support for the arts France has increased that budget post by seven > percent. Wow, Per, that's shocking to me to hear. The reason I say is that in the last half of the 90's decade, I toured a lot in France with Bob Brozman when the French were incredibly supportive of the arts and my impressions has been that things have really changed for the worst there in recent years. At that time the French government was so supportive of the arts that many rural regional towns had full time, paid 'event coordinators' who would book a season of music, annually, to go into the local 500-700 seat hall. These people were trained to ferret out talented musical groups and present them in a weekly concert series (usually in the winter). Because these places were in the middle of the country (far away from Paris and other big French cities) people from 150 kilometers around would purchase season tickets to the events and these events were always sold out. Through French government subsidies, the salaries of these 'Event Coordinators' and the fact that local rural populations would support these music series financially, it gave the coordinators the freedom to take chances on high quality musical acts that weren't known necessarily and had no 'draw' in the area. The quality of the acts on these bills was universally very high. Frequently, we'd roll into a community in Southern France, play to a packed , sold out house of several hundred people and be treated like rock stars in the process. Of course, because we were good, we'd be hired back by popular demand after we had played somewhere successfully for the first time. As an American I was shocked to see this kind of support there and I fell in love with the people of France that I met. They were so supportive of music it seemed to me. One night, we played at a village concert hall in the dead of winter (it was snowing outside and very cold). At the end of the concert, we were treated to a gourmet meal by a couple of chefs from the best restaurants in the region. These folks had shut their restaurants down to make the four of us this gourmet meal. At the end of the meal, we were presented with bottles of wine that had our names printed on the labels from regional vintners and then presented with a beautiful Marzipan cake that had our likenesses airbrushed on with colored icing (and an amazing resemblance it bore). This largesse was jaw dropping to me. Suddenly , in the middle of desert, we were interrupted and told to please go outside into the cold and the snow. We walked out there and the mayor and a few local dignitaries walked up and introduced themselves and then there was a fireworks display that suddenly commenced in our honor. I sat there in the freezing snow, watching the fireworks with tears streaming down my face. I had NEVER been treated like that anywhere in all of my travels and certainly never in the United States. It was just overwhelming to me and I was overcome with emotion. Unfortunately, last time I talked to Bob Brozman (I no longer perform in his band) he said that this system had fallen apart due to lack of funds and lack of public interest. It made me so sad to hear that. Maybe it's coming back (this statistic looks promising). I hope so. It's the way things should be , if you ask me. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 12:14:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11CFD3BE90; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bg9CMiF4jsMKrCpvCu4p1BYmEjM7iM2FRwg/7pdMSuw=; b=ZdEGvGQJc8Db/GAx3Q0jVUzfKPotKZ9Eq702ZENomGLVl1yYUFSlvvjQ97SbOCQ4HD oY2sJnrCDzoeLYiSyeKWQG5FcIlD+5SaD2E7bsK0Foy68gCwfaKGxFD/RDlnKaaZNiV+ 7Bb2ZeanxoONjSbgGC7VJBVmdskrXIcneCaHc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jbEu1aPw5l1fBUPTXhp6QKjeiW3d7ZhvJw6UUN/zVkKNM3InzJKBnRsB6CGI4jzA/u 9LV8benHvjbMW0UiVRHHuBoODxY6ZkxfjCvZeqCEPq36CDaXJLHNsTo1Asw+W2q+GiZ1 Mih8mdD/23UACUmcAJ+0CZ/ksgAiMtjq1J5Rw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:14:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequencers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:14:52 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:41 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Seriously, which did you have in YK2X? Only the Gordius Little Giant 2 foot controller. Smallest possible setup to meet flight luggage regulations. I recently got it to replace a FCB1010 and with the LG2 you get more pedals per bank plus extra external switches and/or expression pedals so with the LG2 it is easier to group your commands into banks that are easily accessible ("performance ergonomic"). This kind of makes the additional hand controllers less important. I think I will look more into only foot control for live work since when playing the Chapman Stick you may not be able to free a hand as often as when playing the guitar or the flute. And I like to use the same live looping setup for all instruments, as the looping setup in itself kind of becomes an instrument to learn as well as the other ones. However, when playing EWI with a regular live band I totally avoid foot controllers. I don't loop much there though, rather just build up pads in a freeze reverb. But since playing an EWI sends MIDI data just by playing I find it more convenient to program cross fades, scaling, "SUS Subtstitute stuff" etc in Mainstage according to the MIDI that comes in with the notes I play. The EWI has a hell of a lot of octaves so I can make "keyboard splits" for instant access to many sounds, I can layer synths, ultar fat stereo samples assigned to just one note etc etc... and dedicate certain notes (outside the key we are playing in) to control effects, loopers etc. It is really nice not having foot pedals on stage so you can move around a bit to find the sweet-spot for the stage monitoring sound as well as keeping an eye on the fellow musicians as you play. But I need at least one MIDI pedal for that band in order to adjust the tempo now and then. I have experimented with one of those transparent Apple mouse devises. Since it has only one mouse button and the whole damn thing actually IS that mouse button it can be placed on a holder gaffer taped to the floor and stomped at. I use an extra USB extender cable with it and place the mouse over the correct Mainstage button in advance. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 13:10:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF5943BE87; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Who's using what... From: "Andy Owens" Thread-topic: Who's using what... Thread-index: AcuQj2N6+/eNpcVhQGWVVKlqHw8u5A== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-1--717473393"; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-ID: <408F9B4F-3496-47CD-BC72-54BD60E82566@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:05:38 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2010 13:10:43.0788 (UTC) FILETIME=[FEB048C0:01CB908F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:10:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--717473393 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Patrick was asking who be using what. I am in western North Carolina and have played bluegrass and acoustic and wh= atever since 1975. I live way in the sticks and starting looping partly out o= f frustration of not having as many people around to jam with as I like. As far as instruments I have, road and live and loop ready, acoustic mandoli= n, electric mandolin, octave=20 mandolin, mandola, electric mandola, mandocello, acoustic guitar (1956 Marti= n d28), electric guitar (tele), squareneck dobro, lap steel, pedal steel, ro= undneck dobro, electric banjo, acoustic banjo, P bass, upright bass, bass ma= ndolin (1920's Gibson), acoustic fiddle, electric fiddle, percussion rack, R= oland elect drum kit, hammond organ module, yamaha tg55 keys, and probably s= omething I am forgetting. All those instruments are world class and with state of the art pickup syste= ms installed as I have a Fishman endorsement for ten years now. I run all t= he strings to a Fishman Aura, on which I have spent years tweaking the image= s making them sound the best possible when amplified. The Aura has midi cont= rol to select the proper image. Then I have a digitech 1101 which also I have spent countless hours setting u= p sounds for each instrument. The 1101 has midi out so that when I choose a c= ertain instrument on the 1101, it changes the Aura to the proper setting for= that instrument. I then have a Rane CM86 mixer, which has eight channels, one for keys, organ= , strings, drum machine, two vocal mics and a/b inserts which I have two TC M= 300 multi processors. The Rane has true stereo outs, A and B, and level cont= rol on each channel so I send the A to my cue and then the B to my LP1. I th= en route the LP1 out back to one channel of the Rane and use that to control= the mix of recorded loop to the live instruments or mics.=20 I then use a Novation control surface, the one with a two octave keyboard on= it and can control the LP1, the M300s and the organ and key modules with th= is awesome controller. It has sliders, faders and lots of buttons and then I= have full control over the loops, volume, start, stop, restart, etc, giving= me the ability to control volume of the loops coming out of the LP1. I have the digitech foot pedal and a midibuddy, wah pedal and vol pedal for t= he organ on the floor.=20 As you can imagine, this has taken me years to put together, from a time, mo= ney and knowledge standpoint, it has been quite an ordeal. Its hard to maint= ain the impetus to keep it growing. My goal is to get to the point where one= button push on the Novation sets up all I need for a certain song.=20 Musically, I really look at it more like live recording than ambient style l= ooping like lots of ya'll do. I really like the idea of building a track tha= t eventually works into the backup for an entire song. I can do ambient stuf= f of course but really if doing that type, I lean more towards building dub s= tyle tracks. The good thing I like about the M300's are that with the Novati= on I can on the fly with midi control all the settings, adjust delay times a= nd such so when building dub stuff I can have the delay times and lengthes t= hat I need, and with a push of a button I can bring up any preset I need.=20= I love the LP1, only thing bothers me is if it craps out, I am screwed, and a= s of last time I checked, no way to backup the programming. I hope maybe he h= as this change added, havent checked in a while. Also, the Rane is an awesom= e mixer for looping, a bit large, three rack space, and it has a real bad ha= bit of blowing output transisters if you plug in or out of it while its powe= red up, but I have three of them so can change/replace easily.=20 If I was gigging a lot looping I would have a backup LP1 too, cant find thos= e at Walmart!! I use Nuendo in my studio but I just really havent felt comfortable changing= to a laptop based system, i just have an unatural fear of a laptop crash an= d dont want to change, plus the LP1 is just awesome!! 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AtkBAIOJ9ExYbRzr/2dsb2JhbAAHg0mRMsEMkRyBIYMzcwSNZA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,280,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="532916163" Message-ID: <4CF4FB63.1010609@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:25:55 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Who's using what...LP1 backup References: <408F9B4F-3496-47CD-BC72-54BD60E82566@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <408F9B4F-3496-47CD-BC72-54BD60E82566@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Andy Owens wrote: > I love the LP1, only thing bothers me is if it craps out, I am screwed, > and as of last time I checked, no way to backup the programming. I haven't actually tried it, but there does now appear to be a way to save a setup file to pc. You need to connect by ethernet (by router is best). Along with options to upload/download loops and upgrade the software I've seen a "save setup" or something similar. Disclaimer...I haven't used this, and I don't know which software versions it would be in. andy butler ps, while your LP1 is connected, *don't* take the chance for online update to Ver 1.38 that version isn't stable. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 14:24:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32A9A3BE89; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Who's using what...LP1 backup References: <408F9B4F-3496-47CD-BC72-54BD60E82566@1800dialword.com> <4CF4FB63.1010609@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Thread-topic: Who's using what...LP1 backup Thread-index: AcuQmjDogGs4ttjbTg6qhT8GHDEY6g== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4CF4FB63.1010609@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <668490F6-5215-497E-BDAC-389B0C23F73D@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:22:58 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2010 14:24:27.0266 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B497620:01CB909A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Wow, upload/download loops would be cool for the LP1, thanks for that info A= ndy. I have an old alesis drum machine I like because I can send midi start s= top to it in a command string that starts recording a loop at the same time,= but if you could upload several loops for a starting rhythm that would be c= ool.=20 I replaced the alesis with a Simmons drum pad surface but ridiculously it ha= s no midi start/stop so cant use it the same but I like the pad surface.=20 I really need a non laptop drum machine option, maybe some of yall have sugg= estions. I bought an MPC but to clunky to program for my tastes, but anxious= to wirk it in someday.=20 So, I have heard good and bad about Softstep in here, what is the concensus?= Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Nov 30, 2010, at 8:25 AM, andy butler wrote: > Andy Owens wrote: >=20 >> I love the LP1, only thing bothers me is if it craps out, I am screwed, a= nd as of last time I checked, no way to backup the programming.=20 >=20 >=20 > I haven't actually tried it, but there does now appear > to be a way to save a setup file to pc. >=20 > You need to connect by ethernet (by router is best). >=20 > Along with options to upload/download loops and > upgrade the software I've seen a "save setup" or something > similar. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Disclaimer...I haven't used this, and I don't know which software versions= > it would be in. >=20 > andy butler > ps, while your LP1 is connected, *don't* take the chance > for online update to Ver 1.38 > that version isn't stable. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 14:53:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A4B03BE87; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 576 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:53:34 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone? From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: <656913.74830.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:53:30 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3CE789B3C5B94BC4B8D305466B1BBB39@bob> <656913.74830.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:53:34 +0000 (UTC) > the problem with computers is that they tend to draw your attention = away from the music and into the screen... >=20 > Antony Hequet Wow... well said... Never thought about it like that...= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 14:54:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D9573BE86; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hPQnsblElb76lL/3ZLoLJW4JyZKCUhgXeYg0HCD88ek=; b=Pc7j+EfLHjp8Odqmy9CB+KD8bnEQajskdbwQIM0jmvDR4b+0YEgdrGefKntRxhFtgm EZCF4aIWyH8wfcZA66lh7YazYGwF4yqHKzGruK/Vsm9XE5uf4urN0+Eyzus0a+57/lbU Oo/QoD6InUKeAODngNsmzJPLNHx8EKVlLHLWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uUx8PqkZ4ozyKk5KsNLaga9kYJFmVSI9eGQE57v7N1qwOxWRpPkLiVU++WTQktQoEP bNY0lrakNeIgHwmsht6AEvqwE99cp3xRzdYOOLyi2MIa23vZ2su/joGMhCycjBdVIiWg Fv0Pp8Xm2FxAtSGFLV5VGN37WBXkYBvY4hH4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CF4098F.9080007@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4CF1D585.6020708@cruzio.com> <4CF3EE59.2090408@tiscali.co.uk> <4CF3F012.1000204@googlemail.com> <4CF4098F.9080007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:54:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Andy, et alia, The score that Rainer has referenced indicates that, at the first performance, the performer (David Tudor) indicated the beginnings and endings of each movement by opening and closing the keyboard. Apparently, this is a scan of Cage's second version of the score; I say this because of the note in Cage's hand, describing the Tudor performance and the fact that he mentions a "a copy" being made for Irwin Kremen. Quite likely that the story you were told was a corruption of what actually did happen (that Cage mentioned on the score how the original performance had indicated the movements)... Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:14 PM, andy butler wrote= : > Rainer Straschill wrote: >> >> andy butler schrieb: >>> >>> afaik the score actually specifies that the performer should open >> >> No it doesn't ;) >> http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/works/4-33/images/4/ >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer >> > > I got that info from a tale of a music student who played some > of the "easiest" Cage pieces for the performance necessary for > his degree. > He passed of course. > > Maybe Cage made that suggestion at some time. > > I thought the idea of the piece was to present the incidental sounds > as music...but then Cage does refer to it as "my silent piece". > > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 15:00:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 612C13BE87; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Reyn vs Blaudzun From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:43:55 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <86A3B9EA-2296-424A-81D3-0E4945A07437@reyn.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Made a little Echoplex setup for this concert! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r9j2H9_e00 Enjoy! Cheers, Reyn ___________ www.reyn.net www.reyn.vs.reyn.net management: www.lalalamanagement.nl twitter/facebook/youtube: ReynOuwehand From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 15:00:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AAF13BE91; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: OT: Suggestions for monitor speakers From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:44:47 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <226D9B4A-A7C4-4AE8-ABC2-24C12AA6B8A9@reyn.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:00:25 +0000 (UTC) I looove my genelecs... On Nov 29, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > genelec 8030a >=20 > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Jeff Shirkey = wrote: > A very good choice that won't totally break the bank is Tannoy Reveal. >=20 > Jeff >=20 > On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Fabio_A wrote: >=20 >> Hi there, >> I decided to buy a monitor speakers system, but have ho idea which = model to choose. >> I'm a newby in this regards, so please let me know your experience. >> =20 >> I need monitor speakers mainly for mixing music and also to play with = myself. >> I want to connect the speakers straight from the main output of my = RME Fireface. >> I'll use them in my flat, so I don't need a powerfull system, in dB = terms. >> What is really important is to get a "transparent" sound from them. >> I'd prefer small ones and - why not - not much expensive. >> =20 >> Any suggestions ? >> =20 >> -fabio >> www.eterogeneo.com >> =20 >> =20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 15:14:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EE6C3BE81; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:14:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IJsHYyg0DJ3yJPu8t3R9ztvfiP05XijewPeZFXx5DWY=; b=VdWirCdCqzPcg54MwHQAQiJawonz30b1f/5x7MbVWQvSnL9N7CfC5CicCtzG+mjC9O yLH5fegPPAcKfEaPGVv+k7ywh2SZqjO/jmYyyzQUcGs/zbrKxkW5Nf131ogyteb/D0jw Z4Zd1WG3pMe3/GvV0FvtWROqTHLRXYCESBaMw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iAmMNE6oR7+vSbKCwzibyq5UmODt6OgJZSYC+Xyjleh3VpsrH+Uw8zrADpzzopsk3X Bhybv/2VXa9kNtEvHNTc8GxTC3SAgkKA2W2bJxmY9R2qBylAfIH5kQq118mPy/IoOVio pRMnX7oQTOx2iICjLQxa8x0slZeqJFaon//6w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3CE789B3C5B94BC4B8D305466B1BBB39@bob> <656913.74830.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:14:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dumb newbie's question...Ableton anyone? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:14:29 +0000 (UTC) Pfffff...only if you let them. Like Per said, he doesn't look at the screen that much. It's JUST another tool: once you've learned what you need to do with it, you're not looking at the screen that much... I'm finding the "inclusion" (NOTE BENE: I said "inclusion" not "transition to") of the computer to be a very smooth and unobtrusive process. Maybe because I view it as simply another piece of gear, just not in the rack. Patrick, by all means pursue the idea of using Ableton. And check out the list of looping hardware and software that Per put together: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php ...it's much more up to date than the profiles on the list here. Yes, there's more than a few folks still using hardware from the 90's and earlier (I still use two Lexicon Vortexes, but I've cut back from the four I used to own), but then a lot of that gear can now be had cheaply though places like eBay...so it's a good way to get started in looping (tho' the price of a "pristine" Echoplex has certainly not dropped!). But if you're already comfortable working in Ableton, why not continue and go deeper? We all would like the "process" of getting to the point of actually playing to be easier, but some days I think that the playing is our reward for all the preparations. Just my $.05 this last day of November (inflation, ya know!). Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote: > >> the problem with computers is that they tend to draw your attention away from the music and into the screen... >> >> Antony Hequet > > Wow... well said... Never thought about it like that... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 15:18:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A9AA3BE92; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pvJoMaS1WL1hQFKRGQy5ITfq81gBFP5Z6Chki8L7sQU=; b=vR4ajLqSsrQzJ2ZtRDAI502P60zCZr490/Zkw9L9RWjeIl48pYdVyeTksZBinsc3YX MQaNXOKdMRGI/qwbuGEjGT+31XGuTxDAzzkh7xWabzjsy61gXrJDDoB+hvGJqtEHk0Bq 2T7RlF8G8jm7eW5G6guJz05X+gSJkz4uZ7wfE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GgAlF/QmZRQ7F7Ui3iAZWX9NU2oXvHyZ31zZN3eXPpmrSY0X+LGfY+oRLmRFWgLg2l 5HyoxMbrrK8mBgFCH+lGDb9/py9Ec8/gYzWAwL3TwNnqQdHilDD3a5Ar1xY8Hx1AvW6O W10CzS7VJjvxakaa73w+TpI11DpbqvOvjVQG0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:18:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequencers From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6adb6c57f50049646b4ff Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:18:52 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6adb6c57f50049646b4ff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 allow me to clarify: yes, i'm on a computer. bidule hosting komplete. i have a few controllers lying aroung, namely an mpk61 and alesis control pad, so i'm covered on that. i don't necessarily need another software sampler or another means of slicing. i've been using bidule's sequencer but what if you wanna play behind the beat? no means of recording what i'm playing - on-the-fly sequencing, i guess. and the ability to have things not exactly on the beat...i'd like a little more human-ness out of my machines. - jim --000e0cd6adb6c57f50049646b4ff Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable allow me to clarify:

yes, i'm on a computer.=A0 bidule hosting k= omplete.=A0 i have a few controllers lying aroung, namely an mpk61 and ales= is control pad, so i'm covered on that.=A0 i don't necessarily need= another software sampler or another means of slicing.=A0 i've been usi= ng bidule's sequencer but what if you wanna play behind the beat?=A0 no= means of recording what i'm playing - on-the-fly sequencing, i guess.= =A0 and the ability to have things not exactly on the beat...i'd like a= little more human-ness out of my machines.

- jim
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------_=_NextPart_001_01CB90A2.1BCF6E97-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 15:22:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB87A3BEC5; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 532980239/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.28.235/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.28.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoBAKSl9ExYbRzr/2dsb2JhbAAHlH/TCYVHBI1l X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,280,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="532980239" Message-ID: <4CF516BE.5000305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:22:38 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Who's using what...LP1 backup References: <408F9B4F-3496-47CD-BC72-54BD60E82566@1800dialword.com> <4CF4FB63.1010609@tiscali.co.uk> <668490F6-5215-497E-BDAC-389B0C23F73D@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <668490F6-5215-497E-BDAC-389B0C23F73D@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8fey8D.A.bkG.xaR9MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Andy Owens wrote: > Wow, upload/download loops would be cool for the LP1, thanks for that info Andy. I have an old alesis drum machine I like because I can send midi start stop to it in a command string that starts recording a loop at the same time, but if you could upload several loops for a starting rhythm that would be cool. Unfortunately the loops won't be remembered by the LP1 when it's switched off > I really need a non laptop drum machine option, maybe some of yall have suggestions. I bought an MPC but to clunky to program for my tastes, but anxious to wirk it in someday. Try making the beats live with whatever instrument you have to hand and loop 'em. > So, I have heard good and bad about Softstep in here, what is the concensus? There were some teething troubles when it was released. Consensus is that once these are overcome it's a great product. ...but I our resident softsteppers went off to talk on a Yahoo group and haven't reported back for a while. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 15:27:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 667113BEC0; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 538703761/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.28.235/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.28.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoBAFem9ExYbRzr/2dsb2JhbAAHlH/TBIVHBI1l X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,280,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="538703761" Message-ID: <4CF517E6.30900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:27:34 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Now We Will Hear Freedom References: <4CF1D585.6020708@cruzio.com> <4CF3EE59.2090408@tiscali.co.uk> <4CF3F012.1000204@googlemail.com> <4CF4098F.9080007@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:27:23 +0000 (UTC) yup, it just sounded so *reasonable* though. more than you ever wanted to know about 4'33 here: http://solomonsmusic.net/4min33se.htm andy Dennis Moser wrote: > Andy, et alia, > > The score that Rainer has referenced indicates that, at the first > performance, the performer (David Tudor) indicated the beginnings and > endings of each movement by opening and closing the keyboard. > Apparently, this is a scan of Cage's second version of the score; I > say this because of the note in Cage's hand, describing the Tudor > performance and the fact that he mentions a "a copy" being made for > Irwin Kremen. > > Quite likely that the story you were told was a corruption of what > actually did happen (that Cage mentioned on the score how the original > performance had indicated the movements)... > > Best, > > Dennis > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 15:30:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F5A73BE8A; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1011300073 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-11-30_08:2010-11-30,2010-11-30,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1011300073 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-11-30_08:2010-11-30,2010-11-30,1970-01-01 signatures=0 References: <4CF4E35A.5080000@cruzio.com> In-reply-to: <4CF4E35A.5080000@cruzio.com> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <66EB228F-9F05-49C5-93A1-BF13D0A7F0A1@mac.com> Cc: Art Simon , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Daniel Berkman Subject: Re: OT: French composers are leaving France for the US? Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:30:06 -0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Well put, Rick! _____________________ Daniel Berkman | Colfax=20 Kora =E2=80=A2 Gravikord =E2=80=A2 Handsonic=20 Musician =E2=80=A2 Composer =E2=80=A2 Producer www.danielberkman.com Phone: (415) 254-4895 Email: danielberkman@mac.com On Nov 30, 2010, at 3:43 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Art Simon wrote: >> Really, I'm shocked. It doesn't seem like the US right now is really >> flowering with interest in contemporary music. I thought with IRCAM's >> rich history, not the least of which is that it's the origin of MAX, >> France was the mecca for contemporary music. I guess I'm out of touch. >=20 > IRCAM has certainly been an amazing resource for talented french (and othe= r) > composers and producers. >=20 > Because I live here in Santa Cruz, where Creative Labs and Emu Systems hav= e been > for a long time, I know that Creative has continually hired the best and b= rightest > spacialization experts straight out of IRCAM. I've met so many brillian= t > spacialization experts and , indeed, one woman, Veronique Larcher was lik= e > Gertrude Stein in this area because she was so invested in producing new m= usic > events and connecting different musicians together. She was a godsend t= o our > area, culturally and it was tragic to me, when she was forced to leave the= area for > economic reasons. >=20 > But that's the rub: a lot of people coming out of new music programs ev= erywhere > either have possibilities to teach (which are diminishing rapidly at least= in the US) > or to take on high paying jobs like all the spacialization experts who cam= e from > France to our area, straight out of IRCAM. >=20 > The same phenomenon can also be seen in Northern California, which really h= as a tendency > to produce forward thinking and innovative artists (probably due to not on= ly it's extremeley > liberal and artistic intellectual climate but also due to the extreme weal= th that existed here for > so long with the Dot Com boom). By the way, paranthetically, I'm not sa= ying that other countries > or regions don't also have tons of creativity..........I'm not that insula= r...........lol >=20 > There has been an astonishing brain drain of young musicians out of both t= he San Francisco and > Monterey Bay areas because of economic hardships and how expensive it is t= o live here. > Hundreds have moved to Portland, Oregon, Seattle, Washington, Austin, Tex= as, New York City, New York > and out of the country to avoid how expensive and hard to exist that is fo= r a typical Northern California > artist. >=20 > But you can't completely kill the French spirit any more than you can kill= the Northern California > spirit.............those composers are still creating amazing things and t= hey are still French...... > they just may feel that they can't afford to live in France any longer. >=20 > It's happening all over the world, which is why we need to be vigilant as a= rtists and we need > to be focused on building community to counter the economic trends of a wo= rld that is working > with increasingly diminishing resources with a population that is still sw= elling rapidly. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 15:49:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 195DA3BE98; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Ableton LP1 or whatever References: <3CE789B3C5B94BC4B8D305466B1BBB39@bob> <656913.74830.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Thread-topic: Ableton LP1 or whatever Thread-index: AcuQpgOTFemMyNDZRLaNCjRu5S3DpQ== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-4--707755357"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8ACA64E9-46DE-40E3-99D5-1C1525318AE2@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:47:36 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2010 15:49:13.0980 (UTC) FILETIME=[23346BC0:01CB90A6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:49:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--707755357 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I guess another reason to use a laptop vs hdwr only would be the ability to s= ave the loops in case you want to revisit the piece, but the most fun I have= with looping is when everything is totally improv'd and I can hit that dele= te all button and its just a fond memory, its a freeing experience but sure f= reaks out the bystanders sometimes!! "you mean yoy just erased that and dont= know how to repeat it????" lol Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:14 AM, "Dennis Moser" wrote= : > Pfffff...only if you let them. >=20 > Like Per said, he doesn't look at the screen that much. It's JUST > another tool: once you've learned what you need to do with it, you're > not looking at the screen that much... >=20 > I'm finding the "inclusion" (NOTE BENE: I said "inclusion" not > "transition to") of the computer to be a very smooth and unobtrusive > process. Maybe because I view it as simply another piece of gear, just > not in the rack. >=20 > Patrick, by all means pursue the idea of using Ableton. And check out > the list of looping hardware and software that Per put together: >=20 > http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php >=20 > ...it's much more up to date than the profiles on the list here. Yes, > there's more than a few folks still using hardware from the 90's and > earlier (I still use two Lexicon Vortexes, but I've cut back from the > four I used to own), but then a lot of that gear can now be had > cheaply though places like eBay...so it's a good way to get started in > looping (tho' the price of a "pristine" Echoplex has certainly not > dropped!). >=20 > But if you're already comfortable working in Ableton, why not continue > and go deeper? We all would like the "process" of getting to the point > of actually playing to be easier, but some days I think that the > playing is our reward for all the preparations. >=20 > Just my $.05 this last day of November (inflation, ya know!). >=20 > Best, >=20 > Dennis >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Reyn Ouwehand w= rote: > > > >> the problem with computers is that they tend to draw your attention awa= y from the music and into the screen... > >> > >> Antony Hequet > > > > Wow... well said... Never thought about it like that... > > >=20 --Apple-Mail-4--707755357 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I guess another reason to use a laptop vs hdwr only would be the ability to save the loops in case you want to revisit the piece, but the most fun I have with looping is when everything is totally improv'd and I can hit that delete all button and its just a fond memory, its a freeing experience but sure freaks out the bystanders sometimes!! "you mean yoy just erased that and dont know how to repeat it????" lol

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:14 AM, "Dennis Moser" <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:

Pfffff...only if you let them.

 Like Per said, he doesn't look at the screen that much. It's JUST
another tool: once you've learned what you need to do with it, you're
not looking at the screen that much...

I'm finding the "inclusion" (NOTE BENE: I said "inclusion" not
"transition to") of the computer to be a very smooth and unobtrusive
process. Maybe because I view it as simply another piece of gear, just
not in the rack.

Patrick, by all means pursue the idea of using Ableton. And check out
the list of looping hardware and software that Per put together:

http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php

...it's much more up to date than the profiles on the list here. Yes,
there's more than a few folks still using hardware from the 90's and
earlier (I still use two Lexicon Vortexes, but I've cut back from the
four I used to own), but then a lot of that gear can now be had
cheaply though places like eBay...so it's a good way to get started in
looping (tho' the price of a "pristine" Echoplex has certainly not
dropped!).

But if you're already comfortable working in Ableton, why not continue
and go deeper? We all would like the "process" of getting to the point
of actually playing to be easier, but some days I think that the
playing is our reward for all the preparations.

Just my $.05 this last day of November (inflation, ya know!).

Best,

Dennis

http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/



On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net> wrote:
>
>> the problem with computers is that they tend to draw your attention away from the music and into the screen...
>>
>> Antony Hequet
>
> Wow... well said... Never thought about it like that...
>

--Apple-Mail-4--707755357-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 15:50:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4CF93BE8D; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O6cGyVXp+jEEHb3nDxu4e1+hqHw7UtPUPpEzQiICWng=; b=KS8hgQWUMPH88UYnNJRzYH/EeRTffTc+52qGlKncLXj6nAqzQ8Yh7X3qYyWblbQF2x yx5LtwdAPA/wDLK89V8/bS7gJP9YUY3etKN12VEsUn+PqeczSs3OXd35HwHkagqrwKbf tIcS3KOy1BMllvuA1YNtzhJyCEdSfn7a2XJXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ksmO6BoUNgfzwSwCFcbX76egikqQZfFgYch/RAt3jaBWTm5F0pnAeZzKVBoEYHiH+k aD6esWJLz/LJeZnaMWMirZoH3P+rYaA7WefBIFbgNwIw4DunZ6BXs3NUyTdaZ7ExWzTS QE+lhyr6gi4Ik4RGHJZg2h/sKRVDsPfljDPHw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CF516BE.5000305@tiscali.co.uk> References: <408F9B4F-3496-47CD-BC72-54BD60E82566@1800dialword.com> <4CF4FB63.1010609@tiscali.co.uk> <668490F6-5215-497E-BDAC-389B0C23F73D@1800dialword.com> <4CF516BE.5000305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:50:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Who's using what...LP1 backup From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c395e7e014a04964726e3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:50:44 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c395e7e014a04964726e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I really need a non laptop drum machine option, maybe some of yall have suggestions. I bought an MPC but to clunky to program for my tastes, but anxious to wirk it in someday. > > > I have an Alesis SR16 which is cheap, small, easy to program, and easy to find. I haven't done a lot with it. I think it's the most popular drum machine out there. -- -==-=-=- Tony --0015174c395e7e014a04964726e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really need a non laptop drum machine option, maybe some of yall have sug= gestions. I bought an MPC but to clunky to program for my tastes, but anxio= us to wirk it in someday.


I have an Alesis SR16 which = is cheap, small, easy to program, and easy to find.=A0 I haven't done a= lot with it.=A0 I think it's the most popular drum machine out there.<= br>
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--0015174c395e7e014a04964726e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 15:56:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 438F33BEC3; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:56:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Silence is music References: <4CF160C8.9000906@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Thread-topic: Silence is music Thread-index: AcuQpxdUwL10MbWUQOq1lkkG5GVdDQ== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-5--707292132"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <4CF160C8.9000906@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <2C997A16-4C2F-4E82-AF5F-6B6A776BD79F@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:55:19 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2010 15:56:27.0120 (UTC) FILETIME=[25605700:01CB90A7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:56:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--707292132 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow ya'll are getting deep here! I agree about silence tho, as a struggling p= edal steel player ( the HARDEST instrument in the world!!!) I can say thats a= big thing, especially for that instrument, the space between the notes is w= hat counts!! Man I must be getting dingy here, drove my 4 wheeler off a cliff ten days ag= o and dislocated my left shoulder, amongst multiple other injuries and have n= ot been able to play a lick. Was able to scratch my left ear yesterday tho l= ol!! Too old for that stuff!!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Nov 27, 2010, at 2:49 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > =46rom a book "Silence: Lectures and Writings" by John Cage > > page 87: http://tinyurl.com/283p4vq > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=3Dbooks&linkCode=3Dqs&keywords=3D0= 819560286 > > >=20 > I have to chime in proudly and say that I have a first edition copy of > that amazing book, > signed by Cage himself for me when I got a chance to meet and talk to him > briefly in the early 70's at UCSC when he came to lecture. >=20 > His zen stories about mushroom hunting are worth the price of admission. >=20 > They led me to the amazing book of Zen stories called Zen Bones, Zen Flesh= . > The 100 Zen Stories in that three in one book are amongst the best > things I ever > read. They all, to me, relate directly to music. >=20 > While we are at it, when I have a student who is really special and > finally gets to that > point where they fall in love with (or first learn to wrestle with) the > notion of practicing > a simple thing over and over again, I always buy them a copy of > Suzuki's Zen Mind, Beginners Mind. This is not D.T. Suzuki, the > popularizer of Zen in the > witness, but the Suzuki who ran the Zen Center in San Francisco for many > years. >=20 > He refused to write a book so his students finally transcribed a talk he > once gave on > how to meditate. >=20 > If you take the word 'zazen' (the meditative practise of following one's > breath in and out used in > Zen meditation) and substitute the word 'practise' (as in musical > practise) it is the best book > ever written, imho, on how to successfully practise, especially vis a > viz the minds tendency > to wander. >=20 > Absolutely a desert island book for musicians, I think. >=20 > rick walker >=20 --Apple-Mail-5--707292132 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Wow ya'll are getting deep here! I agree about silence tho, as a struggling pedal steel player ( the HARDEST instrument in the world!!!) I can say thats a big thing, especially for that instrument, the space between the notes is what counts!!

Man I must be getting dingy here, drove my 4 wheeler off a cliff ten days ago and dislocated my left shoulder, amongst multiple other injuries and have not been able to play a lick. Was able to scratch my left ear yesterday tho lol!!

Too old for that stuff!!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Nov 27, 2010, at 2:49 PM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Duke wrote:
> From a book "Silence: Lectures and Writings" by John Cage
> page 87: http://tinyurl.com/283p4vq
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=books&linkCode=qs&keywords=0819560286
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=books&linkCode=qs&keywords=0819560286>

I have to chime in proudly and say that I have a first edition copy of
that amazing book,
signed by Cage himself for me when I got a chance to meet and talk to him
briefly in the early 70's at UCSC when he came to lecture.

His zen stories about mushroom hunting are worth the price of admission.

They led me to the amazing book of Zen stories called Zen Bones, Zen Flesh.
The 100 Zen Stories in that three in one book are amongst the best
things I ever
read.     They all, to me,  relate directly to music.

While we are at it,  when I have a student who is really special and
finally gets to that
point where they fall in love with (or first learn to wrestle with) the
notion of practicing
a simple thing over and over again,  I always buy them a copy of
Suzuki's Zen Mind, Beginners Mind.   This is not D.T. Suzuki, the
popularizer of Zen in the
witness, but the Suzuki who ran the Zen Center in San Francisco for many
years.

He refused to write a book so his students finally transcribed a talk he
once gave on
how to meditate.

If you take the word 'zazen' (the meditative practise of following one's
breath in and out used in
Zen meditation) and substitute the word  'practise' (as in musical
practise) it is the best book
ever written, imho, on how to successfully practise, especially vis a
viz the minds tendency
to wander.

Absolutely a desert island book for musicians,  I think.

rick walker

--Apple-Mail-5--707292132-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 16:01:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 172823BED3; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4CF51FB6.2060909@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:00:54 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: Who's using what...LP1 backup References: <668490F6-5215-497E-BDAC-389B0C23F73D@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <668490F6-5215-497E-BDAC-389B0C23F73D@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:01:05 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > I really need a non laptop drum machine option, maybe some of yall have suggestions. I bought an MPC but to clunky to program for my tastes, but anxious to wirk (sic) it in someday. > Hey Andy, Alesis still makes the SR16. Unbelievably, they have never updated it's archaic sounds from when they released it in the late 80's but it's got pretty nice midi implementation and is relatively cheap ($175 new , I believe, the last time I looked) and has a very small footprint. I've used one for midi purposes and click tracks in studios for many years and to teach students concepts of playing before and after the beat whilst tracking to a click track or sequencer. Why they have never updated the sounds in that unit is beyond me. They are so archaic as to be virtually unusable from an aesthetic standpoint if you ask me and it would cost very little money to update the unit. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 16:01:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57D913BEE4; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:01:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: OT: French composers are leaving France for the US? References: <4CF4E782.40301@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Thread-topic: OT: French composers are leaving France for the US? Thread-index: AcuQp8aau3oJio2TRHaStKaAnjgY4Q== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-6--706998357"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <4CF4E782.40301@cruzio.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:00:13 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2010 16:01:34.0448 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC8EDF00:01CB90A7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:01:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--706998357 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Man Rick, that us exactly why I love playing Europe, I have toured a lot in c= entral europe and musicians are treated with respect. Japan even better! I used to drive 12 or 14 hours in the states for a gig, be ignored ir treate= d like crud, then played Japan once, flew 12 hours get treated like a star o= r drive 12 hours be ignored, not a hard decision if you can make it work.=20= Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Nov 30, 2010, at 7:01 AM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > Per Boysen wrote: > > Indeed surprising, given the fact that while most European countries > > are adapting to the bad economic times by decreasing tax financed > > support for the arts France has increased that budget post by seven > > percent. >=20 > Wow, Per, that's shocking to me to hear. >=20 > The reason I say is that in the last half of the 90's decade, I toured > a lot > in France with Bob Brozman when the French were incredibly supportive of > the arts > and my impressions has been that things have really changed for the > worst there in > recent years. >=20 > At that time the French government was so supportive of the arts that > many rural > regional towns had full time, paid 'event coordinators' who would book a > season > of music, annually, to go into the local 500-700 seat hall. >=20 > These people were trained to ferret out talented musical groups and > present them in a weekly > concert series (usually in the winter). >=20 > Because these places were in the middle of the country (far away from > Paris and other big > French cities) people from 150 kilometers around would purchase season > tickets to the events > and these events were always sold out. >=20 > Through French government subsidies, the salaries of these 'Event > Coordinators' and the fact that > local rural populations would support these music series financially,=20 > it gave the coordinators > the freedom to take chances on high quality musical acts that weren't > known necessarily and > had no 'draw' in the area. The quality of the acts on these bills was > universally very high. >=20 > Frequently, we'd roll into a community in Southern France, play to a > packed , sold out house > of several hundred people and be treated like rock stars in the > process. Of course, because we > were good, we'd be hired back by popular demand after we had played > somewhere successfully > for the first time. >=20 > As an American I was shocked to see this kind of support there and I > fell in love with the people > of France that I met. They were so supportive of music it seemed to me. >=20 > One night, we played at a village concert hall in the dead of winter > (it was snowing outside and very > cold). At the end of the concert, we were treated to a gourmet meal > by a couple of chefs from > the best restaurants in the region. These folks had shut their > restaurants down to make the four of us this gourmet meal. At the end > of the meal, we were presented with bottles of wine that had our names > printed on > the labels from regional vintners and then presented with a beautiful > Marzipan cake that had our > likenesses airbrushed on with colored icing (and an amazing resemblance > it bore). This largesse was jaw dropping to me. >=20 > Suddenly , in the middle of desert, we were interrupted and told to > please go outside into the > cold and the snow. We walked out there and the mayor and a few local > dignitaries walked up > and introduced themselves and then there was a fireworks display that > suddenly commenced > in our honor. >=20 > I sat there in the freezing snow, watching the fireworks with tears > streaming down my face. > I had NEVER been treated like that anywhere in all of my travels and > certainly never in the > United States. It was just overwhelming to me and I was overcome with > emotion. >=20 > Unfortunately, last time I talked to Bob Brozman (I no longer perform > in his band) he said that this > system had fallen apart due to lack of funds and lack of public interest. >=20 > It made me so sad to hear that. Maybe it's coming back (this statistic > looks promising). > I hope so. >=20 > It's the way things should be , if you ask me. >=20 > Rick Walker >=20 --Apple-Mail-6--706998357 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Man Rick, that us exactly why I love playing Europe, I have toured a lot in central europe and musicians are treated with respect. Japan even better!

I used to drive 12 or 14 hours in the states for a gig, be ignored ir treated like crud, then played Japan once, flew 12 hours get treated like a star or drive 12 hours be ignored, not a hard decision if you can make it work. 

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Nov 30, 2010, at 7:01 AM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

Per Boysen wrote:
> Indeed surprising, given the fact that while most European countries
> are adapting to the bad economic times by decreasing tax financed
> support for the arts France has increased that budget post by seven
> percent.

Wow, Per, that's shocking to me to hear.

The reason I say is that in the last half of the 90's decade,  I toured
a lot
in France with Bob Brozman when the French were incredibly supportive of
the arts
  and my impressions has been that things have really changed for the
worst there in
recent years.

At that time the French government was so supportive of the arts that
many rural
regional towns had full time, paid 'event coordinators' who would book a
season
of music, annually, to go into the local 500-700 seat hall.

These people were trained to ferret out talented musical groups and
present them in a weekly
concert series (usually in the winter).

Because these places were in the middle of the country (far away from
Paris and other big
French cities)  people from 150 kilometers around would purchase season
tickets to the events
and these events were always sold out.

Through French government subsidies, the salaries of these 'Event
Coordinators' and the fact that
local rural populations would support these music series financially, 
it gave the coordinators
the freedom to take chances on high quality musical acts that weren't
known necessarily and
had no 'draw' in the area.   The quality of the acts on these bills was
universally very high.

Frequently, we'd roll into a community in Southern France, play to a
packed , sold out house
of several hundred people and be treated like rock stars in the
process.   Of course, because we
were good,  we'd be hired back by popular demand after we had played
somewhere successfully
for the first time.

As an American I was shocked to see this kind of support there and I
fell in love with the people
of France that I met.  They were so supportive of music it seemed to me.

One night,  we played at a village concert hall in the dead of winter
(it was snowing outside and very
cold).    At the end of the concert, we were treated to a gourmet meal
by a couple of chefs from
the best restaurants in the region.   These folks had shut their
restaurants down to make the four of us this gourmet meal.  At the end
of the meal,  we were presented with bottles of wine that had our names
printed on
the labels from regional vintners and then presented with a beautiful
Marzipan cake  that had our
likenesses airbrushed on with colored icing (and an amazing resemblance
it bore).   This largesse was jaw dropping to me.

Suddenly , in the middle of desert,  we were interrupted and told to
please go outside into the
cold and the snow.    We walked out there and the mayor and a few local
dignitaries walked up
and introduced themselves and then there was a fireworks display that
suddenly commenced
in our honor.

I sat there in the freezing snow, watching the fireworks with tears
streaming down my face.
I had NEVER been treated like that anywhere in all of my travels and
certainly never in the
United States.  It was just overwhelming to me and I was overcome with
emotion.

Unfortunately,  last time I talked to Bob Brozman (I no longer perform
in his band)  he said that this
system had fallen apart due to lack of funds and lack of public interest.

It made me so sad to hear that.   Maybe it's coming back (this statistic
looks promising).
I hope so.

It's the way things should be , if you ask me.

Rick Walker

--Apple-Mail-6--706998357-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 16:04:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 017993BEF4; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tjfpAxqUuQ/m5HZf0q7qos2BrFeFREl58JmeB2LtjGo=; b=G3W4ey/mX9CTrr7GwY6LNuYrpyO2gi39VvfFjgTSIxhS2oj2zWvLiRv+KPL0LJIac1 1t4KmXT1tHoQ1iG+0TN/5RFpskJrl9dil/noYdusK93md3vZl4SaktCpU9icQcCL3SbD pWaKzHE5tN/BHn5NV15mI3LcUNgZG1WUNniWU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mBbyMQckBl00CE776Fy32uTOTCSmzFwIjhJ3JhXwtce0+yn9KaEtzrVEhpoLsFIGTW 96n6T6OqJtof4ZrCb+dXSbjff6dQlGILRBfhh51fzNA+dS4QO9F24y4mwPgPlLGys6n5 S2SIg70LqMxc+67o7y3JKQoDFZWdzWTT7wI2c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F98C15F@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> References: <60D123B3C2059748A41C6A0ED879F4D21F98C15F@pinsmsx01.internal.imsglobal.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:04:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: iRig or Peavey From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00248c11da378fa70704964757e0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:04:23 +0000 (UTC) --00248c11da378fa70704964757e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rob thanks for the feedback. Sounds like Amplitude is still a bit in beta but will chk out Protrack as I don't know it. Appreciate your info and input. Jim On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:00 AM, wrote: > Hi Jim, > > I've used an Irig; was good for messing around with Amplitude, plus you c= an > use it for the other pedal/amp sims on the app store, but, I did find tha= t > when I hooked it up to an amp, or as part of an effects loop (I am using = an > app called everyday looper as a "visual master looper") there was a lot o= f > distortion and noise as I think there was too much going through the Irig= . > > I bought an Alesis Protrack a while ago for a more professional sound and > it works great. It's a little bit temperamental occasionally, and I haven= 't > tested it with the Iphone 4 yet (currently using an iphone 3G); I "think" > Apple have moved some of the Mic/Audio sensors from the bottom port to th= e > headphone Jack on the Iphone 4.... but this is just info I have picked up > from the web and haven't tested it properly yet. I think Alesis are brini= ng > out a new Protrack quite soon but don't know when. > > There are loads of Youtube video's of people using the Protrack, check th= em > out! > > Best regards, > > Rob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com] > Sent: 28 November 2010 01:45 > To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: iRig or Peavey > > Anybody tried the audio interfaces such as the iRig or Peavey AmpKit LInk > as well as Amplitude app for iPhone/iTouch? Wondering about one for > recording. I have used the iTouch to feed samples into NinJam. Saw coup= le > of folks Randolf and Massimo use the iPhone for performance tools at Y2k = as > well as Eric use an iPad with a controller app. > > Thx > > Jim > > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > > --=20 >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --00248c11da378fa70704964757e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rob thanks for the feedback. Sounds like Amplitude is still a bit in beta b= ut will chk out Protrack as I don't know it.=A0 Appreciate your info an= d input.

Jim

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 = at 5:00 AM, <RKoster@uk.imshealth.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,

I've used an Irig; was good for messing around with Amplitude, plus you= can use it for the other pedal/amp sims on the app store, but, I did find = that when I hooked it up to an amp, or as part of an effects loop (I am usi= ng an app called everyday looper as a "visual master looper") the= re was a lot of distortion and noise as I think there was too much going th= rough the Irig.

I bought an Alesis Protrack a while ago for a more professional sound and i= t works great. It's a little bit temperamental occasionally, and I have= n't tested it with the Iphone 4 yet (currently using an iphone 3G); I &= quot;think" Apple have moved some of the Mic/Audio sensors from the bo= ttom port to the headphone Jack on the Iphone 4.... but this is just info I= have picked up from the web and haven't tested it properly yet. I thin= k Alesis are brining out a new Protrack quite soon but don't know when.=

There are loads of Youtube video's of people using the Protrack, check = them out!

Best regards,

Rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Goodin [mailto:jimgoo= dinmusic@gmail.com]
Sent: 28 November 2010 01:45
To: loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com
Subject: iRig or Peavey

Anybody tried the audio interfaces such as the iRig or Peavey AmpKit LInk a= s well as Amplitude app for iPhone/iTouch? =A0Wondering about one for recor= ding. =A0I have used the iTouch to feed samples into NinJam. =A0Saw couple = of folks Randolf and Massimo use the iPhone for performance tools at Y2k as= well as Eric use an iPad with a controller app.

Thx

Jim

--
>From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &a= mp; Peter Th=F6rn. =A0Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. =A0jimgoodinpeterthorn= .bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmu= sic.com
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com
woodand= wiremusic.wordpress.com




--
From Brookl= yn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter T= h=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Internati= onal.=A0 jimgoodinpeter= thorn.bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wo= rdpress.com
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:22:14 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:22:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-26--705677779 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I use 2 line 6 DL4s, a digitech whammy and a boss volume pedal. LR Baggs acoustic pickup is vital also on my crappy broken Ibanez acoustic. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 30 Nov 2010, at 13:05, Andy Owens wrote: > Patrick was asking who be using what. > > I am in western North Carolina and have played bluegrass and > acoustic and whatever since 1975. I live way in the sticks and > starting looping partly out of frustration of not having as many > people around to jam with as I like. > > As far as instruments I have, road and live and loop ready, > acoustic mandolin, electric mandolin, octave > mandolin, mandola, electric mandola, mandocello, acoustic guitar > (1956 Martin d28), electric guitar (tele), squareneck dobro, lap > steel, pedal steel, roundneck dobro, electric banjo, acoustic > banjo, P bass, upright bass, bass mandolin (1920's Gibson), > acoustic fiddle, electric fiddle, percussion rack, Roland elect > drum kit, hammond organ module, yamaha tg55 keys, and probably > something I am forgetting. > > All those instruments are world class and with state of the art > pickup systems installed as I have a Fishman endorsement for ten > years now. I run all the strings to a Fishman Aura, on which I > have spent years tweaking the images making them sound the best > possible when amplified. The Aura has midi control to select the > proper image. > > Then I have a digitech 1101 which also I have spent countless hours > setting up sounds for each instrument. The 1101 has midi out so > that when I choose a certain instrument on the 1101, it changes the > Aura to the proper setting for that instrument. > > I then have a Rane CM86 mixer, which has eight channels, one for > keys, organ, strings, drum machine, two vocal mics and a/b inserts > which I have two TC M300 multi processors. The Rane has true stereo > outs, A and B, and level control on each channel so I send the A to > my cue and then the B to my LP1. I then route the LP1 out back to > one channel of the Rane and use that to control the mix of recorded > loop to the live instruments or mics. > > I then use a Novation control surface, the one with a two octave > keyboard on it and can control the LP1, the M300s and the organ and > key modules with this awesome controller. It has sliders, faders > and lots of buttons and then I have full control over the loops, > volume, start, stop, restart, etc, giving me the ability to control > volume of the loops coming out of the LP1. > > I have the digitech foot pedal and a midibuddy, wah pedal and vol > pedal for the organ on the floor. > > As you can imagine, this has taken me years to put together, from a > time, money and knowledge standpoint, it has been quite an ordeal. > Its hard to maintain the impetus to keep it growing. My goal is to > get to the point where one button push on the Novation sets up all > I need for a certain song. > > Musically, I really look at it more like live recording than > ambient style looping like lots of ya'll do. I really like the idea > of building a track that eventually works into the backup for an > entire song. I can do ambient stuff of course but really if doing > that type, I lean more towards building dub style tracks. The good > thing I like about the M300's are that with the Novation I can on > the fly with midi control all the settings, adjust delay times and > such so when building dub stuff I can have the delay times and > lengthes that I need, and with a push of a button I can bring up > any preset I need. > > I love the LP1, only thing bothers me is if it craps out, I am > screwed, and as of last time I checked, no way to backup the > programming. I hope maybe he has this change added, havent checked > in a while. Also, the Rane is an awesome mixer for looping, a bit > large, three rack space, and it has a real bad habit of blowing > output transisters if you plug in or out of it while its powered > up, but I have three of them so can change/replace easily. > > If I was gigging a lot looping I would have a backup LP1 too, cant > find those at Walmart!! > > I use Nuendo in my studio but I just really havent felt comfortable > changing to a laptop based system, i just have an unatural fear of > a laptop crash and dont want to change, plus the LP1 is just awesome!! > > Well if anyone has any ideas, comments or whatever, would love to > hear them. > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > --Apple-Mail-26--705677779 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII I use 2 line 6 DL4s, a digitech whammy and a boss volume pedal. LR Baggs = acoustic pickup is vital also on my crappy broken Ibanez = acoustic.

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 30 Nov 2010, = at 13:05, Andy Owens wrote:

Patrick was asking who be using = what.

I am in western North Carolina and have played bluegrass = and acoustic and whatever since 1975. I live way in the sticks and = starting looping partly out of frustration of not having as many people = around to jam with as I like.

As far as instruments I have, road = and live and loop ready, acoustic mandolin, electric mandolin, = octave 
mandolin, mandola, electric mandola, mandocello, = acoustic guitar (1956 Martin d28), electric guitar (tele), squareneck = dobro, lap steel, pedal steel, roundneck dobro, electric banjo, acoustic = banjo, P bass, upright bass, bass mandolin (1920's Gibson), acoustic = fiddle, electric fiddle, percussion rack, Roland elect drum kit, hammond = organ module, yamaha tg55 keys, and probably something I am = forgetting.

All those instruments are world class and with state = of the art pickup systems installed as I have a Fishman endorsement for = ten years now.  I run all the strings to a Fishman Aura, on which I = have spent years tweaking the images making them sound the best possible = when amplified. The Aura has midi control to select the proper = image.

Then I have a digitech 1101 which also I have spent = countless hours setting up sounds for each instrument. The 1101 has midi = out so that when I choose a certain instrument on the 1101, it changes = the Aura to the proper setting for that instrument.

I then have a = Rane CM86 mixer, which has eight channels, one for keys, organ, strings, = drum machine, two vocal mics and a/b inserts which I have two TC M300 = multi processors. The Rane has true stereo outs, A and B, and level = control on each channel so I send the A to my cue and then the B to my = LP1. I then route the LP1 out back to one channel of the Rane and use = that to control the mix of recorded loop to the live instruments or = mics. 

I then use a Novation control surface, the one with = a two octave keyboard on it and can control the LP1, the M300s and the = organ and key modules with this awesome controller. It has sliders, = faders and lots of buttons and then I have full control over the loops, = volume, start, stop, restart, etc, giving me the ability to control = volume of the loops coming out of the LP1.

I have the digitech foot pedal and a = midibuddy, wah pedal and vol pedal for the organ on the = floor. 

As you can imagine, this has taken me years to put = together, from a time, money and knowledge standpoint, it has been quite = an ordeal. Its hard to maintain the impetus to keep it growing. My goal = is to get to the point where one button push on the Novation sets up all = I need for a certain song. 

Musically, I really look at it more like = live recording than ambient style looping like lots of ya'll do. I = really like the idea of building a track that eventually works into the = backup for an entire song. I can do ambient stuff of course but really = if doing that type, I lean more towards building dub style tracks. The = good thing I like about the M300's are that with the Novation I can on = the fly with midi control all the settings, adjust delay times and such = so when building dub stuff I can have the delay times and lengthes that = I need, and with a push of a button I can bring up any preset I = need. 

I love the LP1, only thing bothers me is if it craps = out, I am screwed, and as of last time I checked, no way to backup the = programming. I hope maybe he has this change added, havent checked in a = while. Also, the Rane is an awesome mixer for looping, a bit large, = three rack space, and it has a real bad habit of blowing output = transisters if you plug in or out of it while its powered up, but I have = three of them so can change/replace easily. 

If I was gigging a lot looping I would = have a backup LP1 too, cant find those at = Walmart!!

I use Nuendo in my studio but I just really havent = felt comfortable changing to a laptop based system, i just have an = unatural fear of a laptop crash and dont want to change, plus the LP1 is = just awesome!!

Well if anyone has any ideas, comments or whatever, = would love to hear them. 

Andy = Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the = typing might not be my = best!


= --Apple-Mail-26--705677779-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 16:51:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 167C03BEAF; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YiJqMsjsdFMhaVr6Elwy2+ajxpv+Nx5du1hTG+//ATU=; b=YPEfxN1TxWZpSgp9quuJ9dRruA72EtwTdEL51sujD26eu0ewk1OjFaWJLMyYlaEktW KXw3jUmK0tSZ7ifAHriFPDGj1ZMmZ4Jv4UNV1zG+cw/T2viVoQV9jUf5bE1994F+uTyn FUvaaWrhAv6xHhGef494xeQLp3/XceXpsdfzc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Sn7EYCaaivYO4fxmUBt4Tt+WMt/uu5CqyXRE15eNyYt8qLfg5AP2vPEKU+YQ4FB7DE 27cfoAhg6R473cIaOJD2oQeKanskpj0YFsWK1hTntSPXWCqiI55XUZNNvvlNfqx96jad 6k96JBoq+bh1FnIekkZK/jdRtN2afNiDxN5CM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <408F9B4F-3496-47CD-BC72-54BD60E82566@1800dialword.com> References: <408F9B4F-3496-47CD-BC72-54BD60E82566@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:51:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Who's using what... From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517593312726080049647ffb4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:51:21 +0000 (UTC) --001517593312726080049647ffb4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Patrick was asking who be using what. > > Since I never gig out, I have a varied mix of hardware and software and I don't really give a crap over the hardware vs software/computer debate. It's all just a bunch of noisemakers as far as I'm concerned. Does this make a neat sound? Yep! Put it in the signal chain! I have all my hardware hooked up with a patch bay so I can switch stuff around depending on my mood. :) Hardware - Noisemakers - synths (D50, AX73, Morpheus, EX8000, M3R, GR50), drum machines (SR16, Yamaha DD20), VG8ex, guitars/bass/mandolin (too many) FX - RP2000, all the ModFX, Vortex, MPX100, Adrenalinn, Bass MicroSynth, uh... err... ok, there's a big pile on the table and a rack of 'em. Loopers - DD20, DL4, RC20XL Software - AudioMulch & Mobius (controlled with an FCB1010) and some insane number of freebie VSTs that Kris collected. I never play the same thing twice, and it's always some experiment with sound. I just start plugging shit together, twisting knobs and see what happens. First thing I do when I want to record is unplug everything from the front of the patch bay and start over. For recording I use Reaper. and there you have it. -- -==-=-=- Tony --001517593312726080049647ffb4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Patrick was asking who be using what.

<= br>Since I never gig out, I have a varied mix of hardware and software and = I don't really give a crap over the hardware vs software/computer debat= e.=A0 It's all just a bunch of noisemakers as far as I'm concerned.= =A0 Does this make a neat sound? Yep! Put it in the signal chain!

I have all my hardware hooked up with a patch bay so I can switch stuff= around depending on my mood. :)

Hardware -

Noisemakers - syn= ths (D50, AX73, Morpheus, EX8000, M3R, GR50), drum machines (SR16, Yamaha D= D20), VG8ex, guitars/bass/mandolin (too many)

FX - RP2000, all the ModFX, Vortex, MPX100, Adrenalinn, Bass MicroSynth= , uh... err... ok, there's a big pile on the table and a rack of 'e= m.

Loopers - DD20, DL4, RC20XL

Software -

AudioMulch = & Mobius (controlled with an FCB1010) and some insane number of freebie= VSTs that Kris collected.

I never play the same thing twice, and it's always some experiment = with sound.=A0 I just start plugging shit together, twisting knobs and see = what happens.=A0 First thing I do when I want to record is unplug everythin= g from the front of the patch bay and start over.=A0

For recording I use Reaper.=A0

and there you have it.

--=
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Tony
--001517593312726080049647ffb4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 16:57:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BC6B3BEAE; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j8VBDxkNjMQgzMCKVp32QYKJLHEdMN2WteVklbtf8Sg=; b=rttx/YgNV7yvfS4NNqRgXqj/+L0nvvluHz+28UIBMCz2anJQu4NHHRctUWL5m8N+6s BHVL/lqlzEnbg6qBLImGmDvbsK8WrhrAKJj0/9KYbNIsfL+9HAXl6jzDOhhJR0JYOM9J FV9k3xt3TZjb9gwEoNBoHvpYPhAQKFHrAGsFo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nZtP6+CqNCME0FOfogs8JHH1iY+SBwUleQt3YFsZdumhXGVhVJHZF6wNMROD+vNDco 8wSF61ecBxJn1QkRWrqsY9CjhqeMvXje5ktpjFNRvefKFNDG2LFJJHPNtFiBxmdOhMhs ovvT2XlchHNPqv2J+EHGo9kOM3a1JrqwDqXhU= Message-ID: <4CF52CDC.5090607@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:57:00 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Who's using what... References: <408F9B4F-3496-47CD-BC72-54BD60E82566@1800dialword.com> <50C3E6C1-D9AD-47AA-87A2-7724D5819A67@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <50C3E6C1-D9AD-47AA-87A2-7724D5819A67@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Matt Stevens schrieb: > I use 2 line 6 DL4s, a digitech whammy and a boss volume pedal. LR > Baggs acoustic pickup is vital also on my crappy broken Ibanez acoustic. Don't forget to mention that black shiny thing under the red one - that's what we're interested in! ;) http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattstevensguitar/2801019186/ Uhm, about the question that was asked: Most of the time, it's either The Grand 3 (controlled by Kurzweil K2600XS) or trombone/voice noises into computer (TC Konnekt 24D interface) through Ableton Live, which is used as a VST host for Möbius and some other stuff. Sometimes, though, I use a little bit more: http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs/blog/525812431 (please do ask if you want more details - I'm too lazy right now to type it all down). Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 18:17:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45D0E3BE92; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EKiJcLn6QixxcCaEvW13opIkcUVhaADa7UnvjMl4510=; b=n5vQmewi77Hl6RIzMj8ZSuJfS7o5hYDVudx/FFtZK3Gc/6u2yzS/jjPc65SwLe/btZ NmipQb8gd5hkxVM1ohHNmZ9wCleArZv6eg4r1KeLE4gZ37aWf5Nx2wZxfX2jdr60eqcY me1EaHC79ZI07HINbg9M6OgUIHZTRDwhq2bX4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cHNEpjS4v7IAjBdb3v5yARyGqyiyzi2jnWqoRTPoWhpJpZbJ3S6LOioo4Y7y7rVgVy CICtEbrFmdvV5BUSd44g2DpV8L4QWxyA7Xnl0UQBaSiozgGK+nar/LztnzQ5+gbclrM6 n+mMyAbeCv+p/Z28/maQxa/aweB03BEAvfd5E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <408F9B4F-3496-47CD-BC72-54BD60E82566@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:16:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Who's using what... From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e864eaf9b4a0496493170 Resent-Message-ID: <0hQiSC.A.2ND.f-T9MB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:17:03 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e864eaf9b4a0496493170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Like Tony I (rarely) play out although Rick Walker wore me down, got me out of my cave and I did play Y2KX with a bit smaller rig :), thanks Rick again and again btw! At home but not limited to: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdzz/sets/72157625375694693/ Alesis Bitrman, BBE Optostomp compressor, Alesis Smashup, Boss DD 20, too many wires!, 2880 fs, Alesis Ampliton, Lexicon Vortex x2, Vortex ex ped , EH 2880, Alesis Philtre, 8 ch mixer, Zvex Fuzz Factory, Digitech Bad Monkee, Digitech Distortion Factory, Way huge Swollen Pickle, Fernandes Retrorocket w/sustainor system x2 now, Fernandes Decade w/ sustainor, oud, Ibanez acoustic/electric, ex ped's, Digitech RP 250, Line 6 M9, Digitech Time Bender, Digitech Hardwire Reverb, This is just the current active setup, more in boxe's, closet's etc. Embarrassing really! Soon to slowly implement, drumroll here, laptop! peace out, Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Tony K wrote: > > > Patrick was asking who be using what. >> >> > Since I never gig out, I have a varied mix of hardware and software and I > don't really give a crap over the hardware vs software/computer debate. > It's all just a bunch of noisemakers as far as I'm concerned. Does this > make a neat sound? Yep! Put it in the signal chain! > > I have all my hardware hooked up with a patch bay so I can switch stuff > around depending on my mood. :) > > Hardware - > > Noisemakers - synths (D50, AX73, Morpheus, EX8000, M3R, GR50), drum > machines (SR16, Yamaha DD20), VG8ex, guitars/bass/mandolin (too many) > > FX - RP2000, all the ModFX, Vortex, MPX100, Adrenalinn, Bass MicroSynth, > uh... err... ok, there's a big pile on the table and a rack of 'em. > > Loopers - DD20, DL4, RC20XL > > Software - > > AudioMulch & Mobius (controlled with an FCB1010) and some insane number of > freebie VSTs that Kris collected. > > I never play the same thing twice, and it's always some experiment with > sound. I just start plugging shit together, twisting knobs and see what > happens. First thing I do when I want to record is unplug everything from > the front of the patch bay and start over. > > For recording I use Reaper. > > and there you have it. > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > --90e6ba6e864eaf9b4a0496493170 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like Tony I (rarely) play out although Rick Walker wore me down, got me out= of my cave and I did play Y2KX with a bit smaller rig :), thanks Rick agai= n and again btw!

At home but not limited to: http://www.flickr.com/photos= /jdzz/sets/72157625375694693/
Alesis Bitrman, BBE Optostomp compressor, Alesis Smashup, Boss DD 20, too many wires!, 2880 fs, Alesis Ampliton, Lexicon Vortex x2, Vortex ex ped , EH 2880, Alesis Philtre, 8 ch mixer, Zvex Fuzz Factory, Digitech Bad Monkee, Digitech Distortion Factory, Way huge Swollen Pickle, Fernandes Retrorocket w/sustainor system x2 now, Fernandes Decade w/ sustainor, oud, Ibanez acoustic/electric, ex ped's, Digitech RP 250, Line 6 M9, Digitech Time Bender, Digitech Hardwire Reverb,

This is just the current act= ive setup, more in boxe's, closet's etc. Embarrassing really! Soon = to slowly implement, drumroll here, laptop!

peace out,

Jeff

http://www.mys= pace.com/loopsinphasespace
http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke



On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:51 AM, To= ny K <bigtonyk@g= mail.com> wrote:


= Patrick was asking who be using what.

<= br>Since I never gig out, I have a varied mix of hardware and software and = I don't really give a crap over the hardware vs software/computer debat= e.=A0 It's all just a bunch of noisemakers as far as I'm concerned.= =A0 Does this make a neat sound? Yep! Put it in the signal chain!

I have all my hardware hooked up with a patch bay so I can switch stuff= around depending on my mood. :)

Hardware -

Noisemakers - syn= ths (D50, AX73, Morpheus, EX8000, M3R, GR50), drum machines (SR16, Yamaha D= D20), VG8ex, guitars/bass/mandolin (too many)

FX - RP2000, all the ModFX, Vortex, MPX100, Adrenalinn, Bass MicroSynth= , uh... err... ok, there's a big pile on the table and a rack of 'e= m.

Loopers - DD20, DL4, RC20XL

Software -

AudioMulch = & Mobius (controlled with an FCB1010) and some insane number of freebie= VSTs that Kris collected.

I never play the same thing twice, and it's always some experiment = with sound.=A0 I just start plugging shit together, twisting knobs and see = what happens.=A0 First thing I do when I want to record is unplug everythin= g from the front of the patch bay and start over.=A0

For recording I use Reaper.=A0

and there you have it.

--=
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Tony

--90e6ba6e864eaf9b4a0496493170-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 18:32:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2164E3BE78; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: john floridis To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--697882847 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Sonicbids-Reverbnation Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:32:09 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:32:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--697882847 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This may have come up before, but do any of you know if there is a way to make Sonicbids and Reverbnation talk to one another? Particularly in the area of calendars? I'm guessing probably not, but I'm liking Reverbnation at the moment, and I wish I could embed html code into the Sonicbids calendar and call it good. Thoughts? John Floridis 406-721-9161 (home) 509-290-0934 (cell) www.johnfloridis.com www.facebook.com/johnfloridismusic www.myspace.com/johnfloridis www.sonicbids.com/johnfloridis www.youtube.com/user/johnfloridis62 --Apple-Mail-8--697882847 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This may have come up before, = but do any of you know if there is a way to make Sonicbids and = Reverbnation talk to one another?  Particularly in the area of = calendars?  I'm guessing probably not, but I'm liking Reverbnation = at the moment, and I wish I could embed html code into the Sonicbids = calendar and call it = good.

Thoughts?




= --Apple-Mail-8--697882847-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 20:52:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 800B33BE7E; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4Ka2MUWiQ11K5XG6eLCG3G5uF8m3Uu6imPPPuzwdlus=; b=Vlal/tYk5jFzADCEUdET/lLd4UCuO6Qeptu/QMAGyBwZq1lPn59rvMOfb8e1zm0WnE b12PlqN/+sRqlBAZuFRTsdx/JCAoPDaq27QQ+ngE4xvAIDNZO1VNdWlQY/wG9Axd1m+i f8SQWiauovHpCNM7v71tzbvAlY9OeVQ82oY6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lZQ3igN6Hqt46W2vZkd2hUQM6yiVV8MGTYnVu0794cZDWwYAq7xVjJxPshNFPxwemp l3+1UdvmRPIYCcIBBZDAsSDd/aMc4sAYFGPvg/Cgic8Pb9j1HUdsS//ZzKhijhbRwkdh x+GSCuYA0GwBSFXB3l3Y8toj54wHpZ6Fo7Fr0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CF4E782.40301@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:52:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: French composers are leaving France for the US? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Rick, I loved your stories of France! It only reinforces my respect for French culture and the French people. Way, way cool! -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 21:31:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A1913BE86; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SKhvZN/BlJ9A0chR0JgvaMk5yGMtMMsPXXOn0BujOlU=; b=VbXtlqW24mz73if58iPL7ykTIFHdIT061Gn1Rt75c/UL0eNs4NTmzhfPKHutfN76sV 0+pYf96wSUgDUXc2ijxncboi7r0JLCcxzwGrCY2yE3pO069KCKknFsRQ8mFJuYHN5C7J FX7325Y2V+wb/kbG/sS1JD1DlIcFKhW42RwGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sfhxNs7nOEcRtN5Rqa94SnrAXLibt40QsOHnEs0IgDDZPvUpOjeSm+WZX0NtrElfiM jxT5M2EBfa+IglxixETVnopV2CP7dcFTV9rIPuUNDiQ3QIkAst3IX6XkTJpuT6sxp/jj YUyr+VkETa7zf4z3oFZs54lE1IRpCsSG+lV3k= Message-ID: <4CF56D46.4080806@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:31:50 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Slightly OT: "all about jazz" interview with Barry Cleveland Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:31:53 +0000 (UTC) http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=38090&page=1 interviewd by innerview's Anil Prasad, Barry Cleveland talks about his latest album, "Hologramatron", which features, among others, Michael Manring, Amy X Neuburg and Rick Walker. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 30 22:40:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6063E3BE86; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Slightly OT: "all about jazz" interview with Barry Cleveland References: <4CF56D46.4080806@googlemail.com> Thread-topic: Slightly OT: "all about jazz" interview with Barry Cleveland Thread-index: AcuQ34/+HTiNNABvQ1CJed9YuWsaYQ== From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4CF56D46.4080806@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <663BEA6F-164A-49E5-9774-D00B44563AFA@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:39:32 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2010 22:40:20.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[91854C50:01CB90DF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:40:21 +0000 (UTC) That Rick Walker dude, he's purty famous, why is he hanging out with a bunch= of closet playing misfits like us????? Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Nov 30, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Rainer Straschill wr= ote: > http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=3D38090&page=3D1 >=20 > interviewd by innerview's Anil Prasad, Barry Cleveland talks about his lat= est album, "Hologramatron", which features, among others, Michael Manring, A= my X Neuburg and Rick Walker. >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20
fucking re-address your messages mate
My fucking spam filter has h= ad it with you.

From: Gareth Whittock <= =3Bbuddhamachine@live.co.uk>=3B
T= o: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon=2C November 1=2C 2010 11:12:45 PM
Subject: RE: Stringport PC=2C= and Ricky's box

This looks cool Ricky. I need a 13 pin sound card though ideally=2C purely = for convenience and portability. Unfortunately the stringport doesn't have = windows drivers and from what I've been told=2C won't even run with generic= asio4all drivers - how frustrating! Looks like I'll have to wait a few mon= ths :-(
Keep us posted with your crazy sounds though - are you on the Ya= hoo MIDI guitar group? I'm sure they's enjoy learning what you're about ove= r there in Ireland.

Peace

Gareth

Date: Mon=2C 1 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000
Subject: Re: Stringport PC=2C (wa= s THE SOFTSTEP HAS ARRIVED)
From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
To: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Gareth=2C if you're interested= in the stringport=2C you may be interested in this: http://ric= kygraham.com/break-out-box-kits-the-septar-board

On Sat=2C Oct 30=2C 2010 at 6:54 PM=2C Gareth W= hittock <=3Bbuddhamachine@live.co.uk>=3B wrote:
Yes=2C the hardware is PC compatible. Since I currently use a 13pin to= jack converter into a large(ish) soundcard=2C I was hoping to reduce my ge= ar footprint.
I'd like to check the noise/distortion figures though=2C (= can't find them on their website)

Have fun and report back Ted
Gareth

Date: Sat=2C 30 Oct 2010 13:12:58 -0400
Subject: Re: THE SOFTSTEP HAS AR= RIVED!!
From: ws= irota@wsdesigns.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I'= m pretty sure it's pc-compatible=3B the sw is in Max=2C the connection is u= sb. it would be too weird for it not to be

On Sat=2C Oct 30=2C 2010 at 11:34 AM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn <=3Btedkillian= @charter.net>=3B wrote:
Gareth=2C

I don't know that = it's PC compatible (though it might be=2C I don't know).

You should = read up on that.

I received mine about a week ago but have been too = busy with work and family to delve into it much.

I need fewer distra= ction right now.

I'll post about it when I can.

Best=2C

Ted


On Oct 30=2C 2010=2C at 12:54 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote:
=
Have you ordered the stringport Ted= ? I'm curious about the interface as I'm thinking of using it on a PC.
<= BR>Peace

Gareth


Thanks for keep us in the loop.

I'= ll be posting soon about my adventures with the StringPort.

Ciao!
Ted





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