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your music takes care of the 'profound' business, Steve. Nice.

happy new ears to all.  this could be the one!

R

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On Dec 31, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Steve Moyes wrote:

> I've been trying to think of something profound to say, but I can't,  
> so I'll just wish you all a very Happy New Year.
>
> Steve
>
> www.stevemoyes.org.uk
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Matt Stevens
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Happy New Year!
>
> Happy new year guys
>
> Matt Stevens
> www.mattstevensguitar.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
>
>
>
> On 31 Dec 2009, at 22:34, david kirkdorffer wrote:
>
>> Happy New Year -
>>
>> Jan 1 has looped around again!   What will we add to this pass?  :-)
>>
>> David
>> UNDO
>> http://www.myspace.com/undomusic
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2009, at 3:51 PM, Steve Moyes wrote:</div><br =
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Happy New =
Year.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Steve</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><a =
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title=3D"mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com" =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">Matt =
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arial; "><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
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10:56 PM</div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal =
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Year!</div><div><br></div>Happy new year guys<div><br><div><span =
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border-collapse: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2; "><div>Matt =
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at 22:34, david kirkdorffer wrote:</div><br =
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class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"word-spacing: 0px; font: normal =
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style=3D"font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Happy New Year -</div><div =
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margin-left: 0px; ">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Jan 1 has =
looped around again!&nbsp;&nbsp; What will we add to<span =
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:-)</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">&nbsp;</div><div =
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margin-left: 0px; ">David</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
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">UNDO</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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Sorry if this is being sent multiple times- for some reason, it appears as =
if they're not getting sent, shouldn't I get a copy of my posting, too? -an=
yhow just wanna make sure you all get this-hope not too bugging-

Hello loopers, Steve Uccello here saying Hi, Happy New Year's, and that I'm=
 really enjoying being part of the Looper's Delight list, it's great to be =
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lieve open mindedness offers a great reward, I feel lucky due to the divers=
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starts out solo bass, plucking a root note & bowing a melody at the same ti=
me, then kicks into some harmonic singing emulation drones using the bow on=
 the upright bass. =A0The pieces are mostly improvised along w/ a bit of co=
mposing. Definitely music meant for chilling too! =A0Hope you all enjoy and=
 look forward to getting to know you all more in 2010-
Click here to hear "Clarified Birds" see a pic of the art & download it=0A =
free
--- On Thu, 12/31/09, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:

From: richard sales <richard@glasswing.com>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year!
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 5:04 PM

your music takes care of the 'profound' business, Steve. Nice.
happy new ears to all. =A0this could be the one!
R
 richard saleswww.glasswing.comwww.richardsales.comwww.hayleysales.comblog:=
www.goodnaturefarms.com






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Happy new year guys
Matt Stevenswww.mattstevensguitar.commattstevensguitar@btinternet.com



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ont:inherit;">Sorry if this is being sent multiple times- for some reason, =
it appears as if they're not getting sent, shouldn't I get a copy of my pos=
ting, too? -anyhow just wanna make sure you all get this-hope not too buggi=
ng-<br><br>Hello loopers, Steve Uccello here saying Hi, Happy New Year's, a=
nd that I'm really enjoying being part of the Looper's Delight list, it's g=
reat to be part of a community that appreciates art that is a bit out of th=
e way, I believe open mindedness offers a great reward, I feel lucky due to=
 the diverse enrichment I receive from art made by passionate artists, not =
art just made for $! -Thanks&nbsp;<div
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line=
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height:1.2em;outline-style:none;outline-color:initial;"></div><div style=3D=
"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-=
top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1=
.2em;outline-style:none;outline-color:initial;">Also I'm letting you know I=
've just finished a new record using live looping in the studio. &nbsp;"Cla=
rified Birds:&nbsp;<span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262305131_0" style=
=3D"line-height:1.2em;outline-style:none;outline-color:initial;"><span clas=
s=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262309362_0" style=3D"line-height:1.2em;outline-=
style:none;outline-color:initial;">The Forest</span></span>&nbsp;That Hears=
 And The Fields That Sees". &nbsp;Music &amp; art based on the Hyronimus Bo=
sch paining
 of the same name.=0A &nbsp;It's my first attempt to create extended length=
 ambient, trance,&nbsp;<span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262305131_1" st=
yle=3D"line-height:1.2em;outline-style:none;outline-color:initial;"><span c=
lass=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262309362_1" style=3D"line-height:1.2em;outli=
ne-style:none;outline-color:initial;cursor:pointer;background-color:transpa=
rent;border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-color:initial;">drone music</sp=
an></span>. &nbsp;It features lots of bowed double bass, dobro bass slide s=
tyle,&nbsp;<span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262305131_2" style=3D"line-=
height:1.2em;outline-style:none;outline-color:initial;border-bottom-style:d=
ashed;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-color:rgb(0, 102, 204);cursor:p=
ointer;background-color:transparent;"><span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1=
262309362_2" style=3D"line-height:1.2em;outline-style:none;outline-color:in=
itial;border-bottom-style:dashed;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-colo=
r:rgb(0, 102,
 204);cursor:pointer;">acoustic guitar</span></span>, chau gong, and a few =
simple effects. &nbsp;It starts out solo bass, plucking a root note &amp; b=
owing a melody at the same time, then kicks into some harmonic singing emul=
ation drones using the bow on the upright bass. &nbsp;The pieces are mostly=
 improvised along w/ a bit of composing. Definitely music meant for chillin=
g too! &nbsp;Hope you all enjoy and look forward to getting to know you all=
 more in 2010-</div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bo=
ttom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0=
px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.2em;outline-style:none;outline-color:init=
ial;"><br style=3D"line-height:1.2em;outline-style:none;outline-color:initi=
al;"></div><div
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;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line=
-height:1.2em;outline-style:none;outline-color:initial;"><span class=3D"ysh=
ortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262305131_3" style=3D"line-height:1.2em;outline-style:no=
ne;outline-color:initial;"><span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262309362_3=
" style=3D"line-height:1.2em;outline-style:none;outline-color:initial;"><a =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://steveuccello.com/blog.htm=
l/click_here_to_activate_soundcloud_widget__listendownload_free/">Click her=
e to hear "Clarified Birds" see a pic of the art &amp; download it=0A free<=
/a></span></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></=
table></span></td></tr></tbody></table></span><br>--- On <b>Thu, 12/31/09, =
richard sales <i>&lt;richard@glasswing.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquot=
e style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-l=
eft:5px;"><br>From: richard sales &lt;richard@glasswing.com&gt;<br>Subject:=
 Re: Happy New Year!<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Date: Th=
ursday, December 31, 2009, 5:04 PM<br><br><div id=3D"yiv1788038492">your mu=
sic takes care of the 'profound' business, Steve. Nice.<div><br></div><div>=
happy new ears to all. &nbsp;this could be the one!</div><div><br></div><di=
v>R</div><div><br><div> <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-co=
llapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0,=0A 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:mediu=
m;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-tra=
nsform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><div style=3D"wo=
rd-wrap:break-word;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-colla=
pse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font=
-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;=
line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-spac=
e:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;"><=
span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb=
(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orpha=
ns:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-s=
pacing:0px;"><div
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border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size=
:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;=
white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><div style=3D"word-wrap:brea=
k-word;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate=
;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;=
font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:no=
rmal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widow=
s:2;word-spacing:0px;"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;"><span class=3D"=
Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0,=0A 0);f=
ont-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;f=
ont-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-i=
ndent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;=
"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;"><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span=
" face=3D"Arial">richard sales</font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-=
span" color=3D"#908E38"><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http:=
//www.glasswing.com">www.glasswing.com</a></font></div><div><font class=3D"=
Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" h=
ref=3D"http://www.richardsales.com">www.richardsales.com</a></font></div><d=
iv><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.hayleysales.com">www.hayleysales.com</a=
></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">blog:=
</font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"
 href=3D"http://www.goodnaturefarms.com">www.goodnaturefarms.com</a></font>=
</div><div><br></div></div></span><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><=
/div></span><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class=
=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-=
newline"></div></span><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span>=
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Dec 31, 200=
9, at 3:51 PM, Steve Moyes wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newli=
ne"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"bor=
der-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:me=
dium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacin=
g:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-=
transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><div style=3D=
"word-wrap:break-word;"><div>I've been trying to think of something profoun=
d to say, but I=0A can't, so I'll just wish you all a very Happy New Year.<=
/div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Steve</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><a rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.stevemoyes.org.uk"><font size=3D"=
2">www.stevemoyes.org.uk</font></a></div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border=
-left-color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;marg=
in-right:0px;"><div style=3D"font:normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial;">=
----- Original Message -----</div><div style=3D"background-color:rgb(228, 2=
28, 228);font:normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial;"><b>From:</b><span cl=
ass=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a rel=3D"nofollow" title=3D"mat=
tstevensguitar@btinternet.com">Matt Stevens</a></div><div style=3D"font:nor=
mal normal normal 10pt/normal arial;"><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-conver=
ted-space">&nbsp;</span><a rel=3D"nofollow"
 title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli=
ght.com</a></div><div style=3D"font:normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial;=
"><b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, =
December 31, 2009 10:56 PM</div><div style=3D"font:normal normal normal 10p=
t/normal arial;"><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp=
;</span>Re: Happy New Year!</div><div><br></div>Happy new year guys<div><br=
><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"word-spacing:0px;font:norma=
l normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica;text-transform:none;color:rgb(0, 0, 0=
);text-indent:0px;white-space:normal;letter-spacing:normal;border-collapse:=
separate;orphans:2;widows:2;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"wor=
d-spacing:0px;font:normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica;text-transfor=
m:none;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-indent:0px;white-space:normal;letter-spacing=
:normal;border-collapse:separate;orphans:2;widows:2;"><div>Matt Stevens</di=
v><div><a
 rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.co=
m">www.mattstevensguitar.com</a></div><div><a rel=3D"nofollow">mattstevensg=
uitar@btinternet.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br class=3D"Apple-inte=
rchange-newline"></span><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br><=
div><div>On 31 Dec 2009, at 22:34, david kirkdorffer wrote:</div><br class=
=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"App=
le-style-span" style=3D"word-spacing:0px;font:normal normal normal medium/n=
ormal Helvetica;text-transform:none;color:rgb(0, 0,=0A 0);text-indent:0px;w=
hite-space:normal;letter-spacing:normal;border-collapse:separate;orphans:2;=
widows:2;"><div style=3D"font-size:10pt;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;mar=
gin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><=
div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:=
0px;">Happy New Year -</div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;m=
argin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px=
;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;">Jan 1 has looped arou=
nd again!&nbsp;&nbsp; What will we add to<span class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce">&nbsp;</span><em>this<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span=
></em>pass?&nbsp; :-)</div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;ma=
rgin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;=
margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;">David</div><div
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;">UNDO</div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0p=
x;margin-left:0px;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://ww=
w.myspace.com/undomusic">http://www.myspace.com/undomusic</a></div><div sty=
le=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;">&=
nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;=
margin-left:0px;">&nbsp;</div></div><br></span><br class=3D"Apple-interchan=
ge-newline"></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></div></span><br clas=
s=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockq=
uote></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></table><br>=0A=0A      
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Has anyone started using Snow Leopard yet? Any feedback?

Happy 2010

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since the day it came... no changes as far as Im concerned... was interested
in the multi fingered drags on the trackpad, but they dont work here.. I
think it show a few extra previews on spacebar... and cover flow view is for
everything - hate that anyway.. main thng for me was it freed up 8 jiggers
of space... nice... but now i dont care about that either cos i put a 500g
HD in the machine,

i would do it, to be updated, but nothing mind blowing happened... OH except
.... yes I lost alot of prefs, passwords and settings... which as a pain for
the first few days....

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> Has anyone started using Snow Leopard yet? Any feedback?
>
> Happy 2010
>
>


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since the day it came... no changes as far as Im concerned... was intereste=
d in the multi fingered drags on the trackpad, but they dont work here.. I =
think it show a few extra previews on spacebar... and cover flow view is fo=
r everything - hate that anyway.. main thng for me was it freed up 8 jigger=
s of space... nice... but now i dont care about that either cos i put a 500=
g HD in the machine, <br>

<br>i would do it, to be updated, but nothing mind blowing happened... OH e=
xcept .... yes I lost alot of prefs, passwords and settings... which as a p=
ain for the first few days....<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Ja=
n 1, 2010 at 8:05 AM, doc rossi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:doc=
ittern@gmail.com">docittern@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Has anyone starte=
d using Snow Leopard yet? Any feedback?<br>
<br>
Happy 2010<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.m=
arkfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/=
user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://uk.youtube=
.com/user/markfrancombe">http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>

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h%20Non%20Synch">http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy=
nch</a><br>



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losing passwords prefs and setups is really a drag - there must be a  
way around that. what about audio? no (unwanted) glitches and such as  
happened when leopard was new?

On Jan 1, 2010, at 9:32 AM, mark francombe wrote:

> since the day it came... no changes as far as Im concerned... was  
> interested in the multi fingered drags on the trackpad, but they  
> dont work here.. I think it show a few extra previews on spacebar...  
> and cover flow view is for everything - hate that anyway.. main thng  
> for me was it freed up 8 jiggers of space... nice... but now i dont  
> care about that either cos i put a 500g HD in the machine,
>
> i would do it, to be updated, but nothing mind blowing happened...  
> OH except .... yes I lost alot of prefs, passwords and settings...  
> which as a pain for the first few days....
>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:05 AM, doc rossi <docittern@gmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone started using Snow Leopard yet? Any feedback?
>
> Happy 2010
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> www.markfrancombe.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">losing passwords prefs and =
setups is really a drag - there must be a way around that. what about =
audio? no (unwanted) glitches and such as happened when leopard was =
new?<div><br><div><div>On Jan 1, 2010, at 9:32 AM, mark francombe =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">since the day it came... no changes as far as Im =
concerned... was interested in the multi fingered drags on the trackpad, =
but they dont work here.. I think it show a few extra previews on =
spacebar... and cover flow view is for everything - hate that anyway.. =
main thng for me was it freed up 8 jiggers of space... nice... but now i =
dont care about that either cos i put a 500g HD in the machine, <br> =
<br>i would do it, to be updated, but nothing mind blowing happened... =
OH except .... yes I lost alot of prefs, passwords and settings... which =
as a pain for the first few days....<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:05 AM, doc rossi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:docittern@gmail.com">docittern@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;">Has anyone started using Snow Leopard yet? Any feedback?<br> <br> =
Happy 2010<br> <br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- =
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*
Happy New Years,   everybody!

I feel very grateful for this wonderful community and
I feel like we have a really amazing decade ahead of us as live loopers.

NAMM is just around the corner and Bill and I will be demoing the cool 
new LP-2 MINI looper
that Bob Amstadt has been working so hard on in recent months and
I know a lot of interactive, multi-media live looping is on it's way in 
the opening years of the decade.

 The Y2K-X International Live Looping Festival will celebrate our 10th 
anniversary
with the largest festival ever from October 12th -19th, 2010 in Santa 
Cruz, California.

 I'm going to have multiple performance venues, clinics and gear 
demonstrations and interactive
multi-media this year.

Please come to Santa Cruz and participate!   All are welcome.

May this year be creative and fulfilling on all levels for everyone here!

Thank you all for being an extended family!

yours,  Rick Walker
*

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On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:30 AM, doc rossi <docittern@gmail.com> wrote:
> losing passwords prefs and setups is really a drag - there must be a way
> around that. what about audio? no (unwanted) glitches and such as happened
> when leopard was new?

Had some freezes with Bidule hosting Mobius, like once in a ten hour
period of constant playing. Other audio apps I use that work just fine
are Logic and Mainstage. I lost no password prefs, so I have no ideas
on how to deal with that. Right now I think the only benefit from snoo
leppard for me are the the small fixes in Finder here and there, makes
computing a little less boring.

Greetings from Sweden

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Happy New Year all you loopers in this world!
Hope we can see or play ourselves lots of concerts with or without visuals 
and
we will listen to lots of exciting looping music in 2010.

Don´t think that you need to be taught to listen to
instrumental music, but, Paul, you may be right that many people
have a lack of imagination for music without word or
visuals. So I agree those people can be helped- especially
in a concert - with using visuals for instrumental loop music.
Me personally feels the opposite way. Often I get lost
or bored with too much singing in music. I prefer instrumentals and can sit
or lay down and just listen to it. But in concert videos can make me
feel the whole event more intense.
Christo
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> I've never worked with video, but I sometimes do story telling as a way of
> setting the stage for people.
>
> I've spent many years thinking about this in all sorts of different
> settings and my conclusion is this. People have never been taught to
> listen to instrumental music. If it doesn't have words or images or some
> other key to tell them exactly what to envision; they are lost because few
> people have any imagination of their own. I was with an artist friend not
> to long ago at a gallery opening and was astonished to hear some woman ask
> the artist, "what am I supposed to see here, what do you want me to feel?"
>
> I tend to think that as more and more schools have dropped the arts from
> their curriculums we see more and more people that just don't understand,
> or worse are totally bewildered by the arts.
>
> Paul Haslem
> www.dulcify.ca
> Ontario, Canada
>
>
>
>
> At 11:52 PM 12/29/2009, you wrote:
>>I have some strong thoughts on this because whenever I play there is
>>always the pressure to carry the work with visuals. But often, I fear this
>>results in fluff and is sometimes distracting from the sound experience.
>>For me, adding visuals takes away from the imaginative experience that can
>>come from sound. Visuals dictate what a listener takes in and they might
>>have another interpretation if they are allowed to let their minds wander.
>>
>

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I didn't lose anything. No problems, no issues. There are a bunch of nice features under the hood. But nothing the average user will notice. It is faster and smaller.

klowy


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> 
> 
> Has anyone started using Snow Leopard yet? Any feedback?
> 
> Happy 2010
> 
> From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> Date: January 1, 2010 3:32:44 AM EST
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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Ditto here, no issues. Nothing flashy, smaller and faster all around, =
really a core performance upgrade rather than a feature upgrade.

Happy New Year,

Loren Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music
www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there
On Jan 1, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Kenn Lowy wrote:

> I didn't lose anything. No problems, no issues. There are a bunch of =
nice features under the hood. But nothing the average user will notice. =
It is faster and smaller.
>=20
> klowy
>=20
>=20
> On Jan 1, 2010, at 10:51 AM, =
Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:
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>> From: doc rossi <docittern@gmail.com>
>> Date: January 1, 2010 2:05:25 AM EST
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: snow leopard?
>>=20
>>=20
>> Has anyone started using Snow Leopard yet? Any feedback?
>>=20
>> Happy 2010
>>=20
>> From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>> Date: January 1, 2010 3:32:44 AM EST
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ditto =
here, no issues. Nothing flashy, smaller and faster all around, really a =
core performance upgrade rather than a feature =
upgrade.<div><br></div><div>Happy New =
Year,</div><div><br></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-size: 12px; "><div>Loren =
Claypool</div><div>genre-indifferent instrumental guitar =
music</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.lorenclaypool.com">www.lorenclaypool.com</a> and =
links from there</div></span></div><div><div><div>On Jan 1, 2010, at =
10:12 AM, Kenn Lowy wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I didn't lose anything. No =
problems, no issues. There are a bunch of nice features under the hood. =
But nothing the average user will notice. It is faster and =
smaller.<div><br></div><div>klowy<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On =
Jan 1, 2010, at 10:51 AM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Deli=
ght-d-request@loopers-delight.com</a> wrote:</div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, =
127, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">doc rossi &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:docittern@gmail.com">docittern@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></span>=
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>Date: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">January 1, 2010 2:05:25 AM EST<br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>To: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, =
127, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';=
 font-size:medium;"><b>snow leopard?</b><br></span></div><br><br>Has =
anyone started using Snow Leopard yet? Any feedback?<br><br>Happy =
2010<br><br><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, =
127, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">mark francombe &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;<br><=
/span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
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127, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
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style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>To: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
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leopard?</b></span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockq=
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well for xmas i got a new digitech dl-8, and i am loving the 8 sec of delay (my preferred method of looping). not perfect, but it reminds me a bit of my old dod d12.
then i sold some gear and bought an EH stereo memory man w/ hazarai-
and i love that pedal, i've been messing w/ it for 2 days, and the delays are most fun, quirky, and the looping function love the ability to play w/ the loops (filter it or slow down/speed up).
i've done more looping in the last 2 days than i think i did the whole last year-found myself not loving my boss dd7 and the rc20 looper, they just didn't work for me as well as i would have liked. (love the bigger footprint of the dl8-can access the knobs easier, and honestly for me i'd record a loop to my rc-20 and a few days later listen to it and wonder why i recorded it,..).
happy new year, oh and i also bought a korg mini kaoss pad-excited to get that in a few days.....more sound mangling options coming.....
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>well for xmas i got a new digitech dl-8, and i am loving the 8 sec of delay (my preferred method of looping). not perfect, but it reminds me a bit of my old dod d12.</DIV>
<DIV>then i sold some gear and bought an EH stereo memory man w/ hazarai-</DIV>
<DIV>and i love that pedal, i've been messing w/ it for 2 days, and the delays are most fun, quirky, and the looping function love the ability to play w/ the loops (filter it or slow down/speed up).</DIV>
<DIV>i've done more looping in the last 2 days than i think i did the whole last year-found myself not loving my boss dd7 and the rc20 looper, they just didn't work for me as well as i would have liked. (love the bigger footprint of the dl8-can access the knobs easier, and honestly for me i'd record a loop to my rc-20 and a few days later listen to it and wonder why i recorded it,..).</DIV>
<DIV>happy new year, oh and i also bought a korg mini kaoss pad-excited to get that in a few days.....more sound mangling options coming.....</DIV>
<DIV>s---</DIV>
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<html><body><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10=
pt;"><div>I've been lurking for a while as well, looping with a 'rang for a=
 couple of years and am working up to shooting a vid of my performances, yo=
ur work is inspiring...how much post work did you do to the track? if all t=
hat's live, I think I might have to move past my boomerang if this is what =
an edp sounds like.&nbsp; I play guitar, bass and sing and the low vocals r=
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-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: New Loop<br>
From: Todd Chambeau &lt;tchambeau@comcast.net&gt;<br>
Date: Wed, December 30, 2009 12:02 pm<br>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
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Loopers,<br>
<br>
I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've  <br>
learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I  <br>
would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manual.<br=
>
<br>
<br>
Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.<br>
It is through my EDP.<br>
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Thanks<br>
Todd Chambeau<br>
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scott hansen schrieb:
> well for xmas i got a new digitech dl-8, and i am loving the 8 sec of 
> delay (my preferred method of looping). not perfect, but it reminds me 
> a bit of my old dod d12.
>
>
Could you explain in short how the dl8 works, what its highlights are? 
My biggest question: can you turn the "time" knob and get that varispeed 
effect like with the old Digitech PDS/RDS delays or the SMM w/Hazari in 
loop mode?

            Rainer

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Chris,

Glad you liked it. There was not much post-production, but I went  
directly out of my Allen& Heath mixing board into Pro Tools. This way  
I got away from the boxy sounding mic on the camcorder. Then when I  
mixed down in Protools I added a touch of Eq at  7k and 2db worth of  
gain reduction through a Manley Vari-Mu compressor. I guess some would  
say that is a decent amount of "Post Production"
The reverbish sound of the loop is from the presets on the A&H Mixing  
board.
The only non-live portion of the looping, was the strat lead and one  
of the high harmony vocal parts, which I did to cover up an off-key  
part. The Strat went directly into Protools, where I added a hint of  
reverb, nothing else.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think the EDP will  
give you a "better quality " sound. It really starts with the quality  
of instruments, then your recording chain.
The EDP probably has more options on it's looping capability, but I  
have only scratched the surface with it and really just mostly use the  
overdub feature to layer parts.

Let me know if you have any other questions.
Happy New Year
Todd







On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:43 PM, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:

> I've been lurking for a while as well, looping with a 'rang for a  
> couple of years and am working up to shooting a vid of my  
> performances, your work is inspiring...how much post work did you do  
> to the track? if all that's live, I think I might have to move past  
> my boomerang if this is what an edp sounds like.  I play guitar,  
> bass and sing and the low vocals really sound clear...loved the  
> track and I echo the comments on the track's progression into  
> chaos...nice.
>
> Chris
> http://www.flatheadband.com
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: New Loop
> From: Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net>
> Date: Wed, December 30, 2009 12:02 pm
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
> Loopers,
>
> I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've
> learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I
> would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP  
> manual.
>
>
> Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.
> It is through my EDP.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEzb0TzvOY
>
> Thanks
> Todd Chambeau
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Chris,<div><br></div><div>Glad =
you liked it. There was not much post-production, but I went directly =
out of my Allen&amp; Heath mixing board into Pro Tools. This way I got =
away from the boxy sounding mic on the camcorder. Then when I mixed down =
in Protools I added a touch of Eq at &nbsp;7k and 2db worth of gain =
reduction through a Manley Vari-Mu compressor. I guess some would say =
that is a decent amount of "Post Production"</div><div>The reverbish =
sound of the loop is from the presets on the A&amp;H Mixing =
board.</div><div>The only non-live portion of the looping, was the strat =
lead and one of the high harmony vocal parts, which I did to cover up an =
off-key part. The Strat went directly into Protools, where I added a =
hint of reverb, nothing else.</div><div>Someone can correct me if I am =
wrong, but I do not think the EDP will give you a "better quality " =
sound. It really starts with the quality of instruments, then your =
recording chain.</div><div>The EDP probably has more options on it's =
looping capability, but I have only scratched the surface with it and =
really just mostly use the overdub feature to layer =
parts.</div><div><br></div><div>Let me know if you have any other =
questions.</div><div>Happy New =
Year</div><div>Todd</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div=
><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 1, =
2010, at 12:43 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:fh@flatheadband.com">fh@flatheadband.com</a> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; =
font-size:10pt;"><div>I've been lurking for a while as well, looping =
with a 'rang for a couple of years and am working up to shooting a vid =
of my performances, your work is inspiring...how much post work did you =
do to the track? if all that's live, I think I might have to move past =
my boomerang if this is what an edp sounds like.&nbsp; I play guitar, =
bass and sing and the low vocals really sound clear...loved the track =
and I echo the comments on the track's progression into =
chaos...nice.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Chris</div><div><a =
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div> <blockquote id=3D"replyBlockquote" webmail=3D"1" =
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-------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: New Loop<br> From: Todd =
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href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br> <br> <br> Loopers,<br> <br> I just wanted to thank =
everyone for the help over the last year. I've  <br> learned alot from =
just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I  <br> would also =
like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manual.<br> <br> =
<br> Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.<br> =
It is through my EDP.<br> <br> <br> <a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY">http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY</a><br> <br> Thanks<br> Todd Chambeau<br> <br> =
</div> </blockquote></span></div> =
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Happy 2010 and happy Y2K-X to you Rick.

Best of the season to yo an Chris.

Ted

On Jan 1, 2010, at 2:06 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

> *
> Happy New Years,   everybody!
>
> I feel very grateful for this wonderful community and
> I feel like we have a really amazing decade ahead of us as live  
> loopers.
>
> NAMM is just around the corner and Bill and I will be demoing the  
> cool new LP-2 MINI looper
> that Bob Amstadt has been working so hard on in recent months and
> I know a lot of interactive, multi-media live looping is on it's way  
> in the opening years of the decade.
>
> The Y2K-X International Live Looping Festival will celebrate our  
> 10th anniversary
> with the largest festival ever from October 12th -19th, 2010 in  
> Santa Cruz, California.
>
> I'm going to have multiple performance venues, clinics and gear  
> demonstrations and interactive
> multi-media this year.
>
> Please come to Santa Cruz and participate!   All are welcome.
>
> May this year be creative and fulfilling on all levels for everyone  
> here!
>
> Thank you all for being an extended family!
>
> yours,  Rick Walker
> *

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I may be in the area (mastering w Gavin Lurssen) around that time - if  
it all works out schedule wise.  I think I'll be coming to NAMM if  
that is so.  I'd love to hook up Rick, Bill & Bob... and with all and  
any Loop Gang members.  And I'd love to see the new Mini Looperlative.

All systems are lined up for it to happen, I just need to get a final  
and full approval from head of A&R (Universal) for the mastering  
before booking time with Gavin.  It's approved, just have to get it in  
writing.  Should happen in the next couple days.  Let's stay in touch.

Happy happiness!

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On Jan 1, 2010, at 2:06 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

> *
> Happy New Years,   everybody!
>
> I feel very grateful for this wonderful community and
> I feel like we have a really amazing decade ahead of us as live  
> loopers.
>
> NAMM is just around the corner and Bill and I will be demoing the  
> cool new LP-2 MINI looper
> that Bob Amstadt has been working so hard on in recent months and
> I know a lot of interactive, multi-media live looping is on it's way  
> in the opening years of the decade.
>
> The Y2K-X International Live Looping Festival will celebrate our  
> 10th anniversary
> with the largest festival ever from October 12th -19th, 2010 in  
> Santa Cruz, California.
>
> I'm going to have multiple performance venues, clinics and gear  
> demonstrations and interactive
> multi-media this year.
>
> Please come to Santa Cruz and participate!   All are welcome.
>
> May this year be creative and fulfilling on all levels for everyone  
> here!
>
> Thank you all for being an extended family!
>
> yours,  Rick Walker
> *
>


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&nbsp;And I'd love to see the new Mini =
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to happen, I just need to get a final and full approval from head of =
A&amp;R (Universal) for the mastering before booking time with Gavin. =
&nbsp;It's approved, just have to get it in writing. &nbsp;Should happen =
in the next couple days. &nbsp;Let's stay in touch. =
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have a really amazing decade ahead of us as live loopers.<br><br>NAMM is =
just around the corner and Bill and I will be demoing the cool new LP-2 =
MINI looper<br>that Bob Amstadt has been working so hard on in recent =
months and<br>I know a lot of interactive, multi-media live looping is =
on it's way in the opening years of the decade.<br><br>The Y2K-X =
International Live Looping Festival will celebrate our 10th =
anniversary<br>with the largest festival ever from October 12th -19th, =
2010 in Santa Cruz, California.<br><br>I'm going to have multiple =
performance venues, clinics and gear demonstrations and =
interactive<br>multi-media this year.<br><br>Please come to Santa Cruz =
and participate! &nbsp;&nbsp;All are welcome.<br><br>May this year be =
creative and fulfilling on all levels for everyone here!<br><br>Thank =
you all for being an extended family!<br><br>yours, &nbsp;Rick =
Walker<br>*<br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>=

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I like the guy's Matrix mixer at http://www.metalbox.com/

but i am running is the Shure Auxpander would do the same tricks ?

http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/MixersAndDSP/us_pro_Auxpander_content

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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;"><span>I like the guy's Matrix mixer at <a target="_blank" href="http://www.metalbox.com/">http://www.metalbox.com/</a></span><br><br>but i am running is the Shure Auxpander would do the same tricks ?<br><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/MixersAndDSP/us_pro_Auxpander_content">http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/MixersAndDSP/us_pro_Auxpander_content</a></span><br><div>&nbsp;</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(67, 67, 67);">Margaret Noble - Sound Artist</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>Artist Website - <a target="_blank"
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but i am "wondering" not "running" <-- too much flu medication!

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I like the guy's Matrix mixer at http://www.metalbox.com/

but i am running is the Shure Auxpander would do the same tricks ?

http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/MixersAndDSP/us_pro_Auxpander_content

 Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">but i am "wondering" not "running" &lt;-- too much flu medication!<br><div>&nbsp;</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(67, 67, 67);">Margaret Noble - Sound Artist</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>Artist Website - <a target="_blank" href="http://margaretnoble.net">http://margaretnoble.net</a></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>Sound is Art Magazine - <a target="_blank" href="http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart">http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart</a></span></span><br style="font-family:
 arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>Upcoming Concert Series - <a target="_blank" href="http://freshsoundmusic.com">http://freshsoundmusic.com</a></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>New Record Label - <a target="_blank" href="http://femrecords.com/">http://femrecords.com/</a></span></span><br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> margaret noble &lt;margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span><span>I like the guy's Matrix mixer at <a target="_blank" href="http://www.metalbox.com/">http://www.metalbox.com/</a></span></span><br><br>but i am running is the Shure Auxpander would do the same tricks ?<br><br><span><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/MixersAndDSP/us_pro_Auxpander_content">http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/MixersAndDSP/us_pro_Auxpander_content</a></span></span><br><div>&nbsp;</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(67, 67, 67);">Margaret Noble - Sound Artist</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span><span>Artist Website - <a target="_blank" href="http://margaretnoble.net">http://margaretnoble.net</a></span></span></span><br style="font-family:
 arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span><span>Sound is Art Magazine - <a target="_blank" href="http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart">http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart</a></span></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span><span>Upcoming Concert Series - <a target="_blank" href="http://freshsoundmusic.com">http://freshsoundmusic.com</a></span></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span><span>New Record Label - <a target="_blank" href="http://femrecords.com/">http://femrecords.com/</a></span></span></span><br><div><br></div>

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Rick happy one to all the Walker households' there.   I'm glad that you both
have good tyes to make NAMM worthwhile.  It was great fun and challenging at
the same time to go for the last several years.

Excited about Y2KX, sounds like it's going to be a killer Rick.  I look
forward to being there.

Wishing ya'll the best.

Jim

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Rick happy one to all the Walker households&#39; there.=A0=A0 I&#39;m glad =
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nd challenging at the same time to go for the last several years.<br><br>Ex=
cited about Y2KX, sounds like it&#39;s going to be a killer Rick.=A0 I look=
 forward to being there.<br>
<br>Wishing ya&#39;ll the best.<br><br>Jim<br><br><br>

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Ok then perhaps we should create a Northeast Loopers page or possibly the
eastern seaboard for our friends all along the east coast... how about
'Loops that Go East'...

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com>wrote:

>  OR, WA, ID, CA! Loopers
>
> Okay then, I started a NW Loopers page for Facebook.
> Join in and let's see what happens
>
> J.D.Devros  --Portland, OR
> deafrose58
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Ok then perhaps we should create a Northeast Loopers page or possibly the e=
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Loops that Go East&#39;...<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 1,=
 2010 at 3:29 PM, Jeremy devros <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dea=
frose58@hotmail.com">deafrose58@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div>
OR, WA, ID, CA! Loopers<br><br>Okay then, I started a NW Loopers page for F=
acebook.<br>Join in and let&#39;s see what happens<br><br>J.D.Devros=A0 --P=
ortland, OR<br>deafrose58<br><div class=3D"hm"> 		 	   		  <br><hr>Hotmail:=
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><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
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.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
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w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
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al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
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Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and created
a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt 'coast' was limiting, so
it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this community here in the Eastern
US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and join up and
let's get a festival going in this neck of the woods!

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Jim Goodin changed the name of the group "East Coast Loopers" to "Eastern
Loopers".

To see the group, follow the link below:
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Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and created=
 a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt &#39;coast&#39; was limiti=
ng, so it&#39;s now Eastern Loopers.=A0 If you are in this community here i=
n the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below a=
nd join up and let&#39;s get a festival going in this neck of the woods!<br=
>
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rom: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Facebook</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
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c@facebookmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
Date: Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:50 PM<br>Subject: &quot;East Coast Loopers&quot=
; is now &quot;Eastern Loopers&quot;...<br>To: Jim Goodin &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><br><br>
Jim Goodin changed the name of the group &quot;East Coast Loopers&quot; to =
&quot;Eastern Loopers&quot;.<br>
<br>
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<a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/n/?group.php&amp;gid=3D228256868467&amp;=
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m/n/?group.php&amp;gid=3D228256868467&amp;mid=3D1a8876eG2d4e2dc8G3c68144G40=
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<br>
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<html><body><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10=
pt;"><div>I see, I was thinking of upgrading from the 'rang due to sample r=
ate and routing/panning options.&nbsp; I'm not as concerned about recording=
 quality (I don't record my looping other than to capture the moment), this=
 is for live solo performance and I like simplicity. for 'in the box' loopi=
ng and recording I use software.</div><div><br></div><div> I've got a decen=
t signal chain: taylor 314ce with a bagg's m1/padi preamp, beta58 vocal mic=
, green bullet harmonica mic, marshall as50r acoustic amp, 'rang and pedals=
 in the loop so I can loop/effect vocals and guitar...but the boomerang's b=
est sampling rate is only 24k, 11.76k freq max... so once I layer about 5-6=
 things it gets a little muddy with no panning options. I compensate with s=
ome pedals and technique on guitar and vocals, like singing in the green bu=
llet for dynamics and flavor...I'm adding a small 6ch mixer for more eq &am=
p; panning capabilities than the marshall, but it hasn't arrived yet...my l=
oop out of the rang will still be mono but I can separate it from the live =
instruments and gain a little more clarity...</div><div><br></div><div>than=
ks for the info and happy new year to you as well...<br><br></div>
<blockquote id=3D"replyBlockquote" webmail=3D"1" style=3D"border-left: 2px =
solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; color: bl=
ack; font-family: verdana;">
<div   >
-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: New Loop<br>
From: Todd Chambeau &lt;tchambeau@comcast.net&gt;<br>
Date: Fri, January 01, 2010 1:19 pm<br>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<br>
Chris,<div><br></div><div>Glad you liked it. There was not much post-produc=
tion, but I went directly out of my Allen&amp; Heath mixing board into Pro =
Tools. This way I got away from the boxy sounding mic on the camcorder. The=
n when I mixed down in Protools I added a touch of Eq at &nbsp;7k and 2db w=
orth of gain reduction through a Manley Vari-Mu compressor. I guess some wo=
uld say that is a decent amount of "Post Production"</div><div>The reverbis=
h sound of the loop is from the presets on the A&amp;H Mixing board.</div><=
div>The only non-live portion of the looping, was the strat lead and one of=
 the high harmony vocal parts, which I did to cover up an off-key part. The=
 Strat went directly into Protools, where I added a hint of reverb, nothing=
 else.</div><div>Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think t=
he EDP will give you a "better quality " sound. It really starts with the q=
uality of instruments, then your recording chain.</div><div>The EDP probabl=
y has more options on it's looping capability, but I have only scratched th=
e surface with it and really just mostly use the overdub feature to layer p=
arts.</div><div><br></div><div>Let me know if you have any other questions.=
</div><div>Happy New Year</div><div>Todd</div><div><br></div><div><br></div=
><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div>=
<div>On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:43 PM, <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fh@fl=
atheadband.com">fh@flatheadband.com</a> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-inte=
rchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"border-left: 2px solid =
blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><div><span style=3D"font-family=
: Verdana; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt;"><div>I've been lurking fo=
r a while as well, looping with a 'rang for a couple of years and am workin=
g up to shooting a vid of my performances, your work is inspiring...how muc=
h post work did you do to the track? if all that's live, I think I might ha=
ve to move past my boomerang if this is what an edp sounds like.&nbsp; I pl=
ay guitar, bass and sing and the low vocals really sound clear...loved the =
track and I echo the comments on the track's progression into chaos...nice.=
<br></div><div><br></div><div>Chris</div><div><a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
http://www.flatheadband.com">http://www.flatheadband.com</a><br></div> <blo=
ckquote id=3D"replyBlockquote" webmail=3D"1" style=3D"border-left: 2px soli=
d blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; color: black;=
 font-family: verdana;"> <div> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subje=
ct: New Loop<br> From: Todd Chambeau &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailt=
o:tchambeau@comcast.net">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br> Date: Wed, Decem=
ber 30, 2009 12:02 pm<br> To: <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:Loopers-D=
elight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br> <br=
> <br> Loopers,<br> <br> I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over =
the last year. I've <br> learned alot from just lurking and asking the occa=
sional questions. I <br> would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sendi=
ng me that EDP manual.<br> <br> <br> Here is loop I did after sorting throu=
gh some old family video.<br> It is through my EDP.<br> <br> <br> <a target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY">http://ww=
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Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any 
point on earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping) 
culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe? ;)
> Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and 
> created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt 'coast' was 
> limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this community 
> here in the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the 
> link below and join up and let's get a festival going in this neck of 
> the woods!
>
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Chris,

Thanks for schooling me, I foolishly didn't even consider the sampling  
rate etc. With the EDP I am able to put several layers of guitars/bass  
and vocals, all with good clarity. I am fairly new to all of the  
electronics, since spending the last 20+ years  just beating on an  
unplugged Martin.
My friends still remind me of when I said "I would never go electric  
or record on computers"
What can I say, I was a young and dumb hippy.

Good luck with your upgrade.





On Jan 1, 2010, at 7:30 PM, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:

> I see, I was thinking of upgrading from the 'rang due to sample rate  
> and routing/panning options.  I'm not as concerned about recording  
> quality (I don't record my looping other than to capture the  
> moment), this is for live solo performance and I like simplicity.  
> for 'in the box' looping and recording I use software.
>
> I've got a decent signal chain: taylor 314ce with a bagg's m1/padi  
> preamp, beta58 vocal mic, green bullet harmonica mic, marshall as50r  
> acoustic amp, 'rang and pedals in the loop so I can loop/effect  
> vocals and guitar...but the boomerang's best sampling rate is only  
> 24k, 11.76k freq max... so once I layer about 5-6 things it gets a  
> little muddy with no panning options. I compensate with some pedals  
> and technique on guitar and vocals, like singing in the green bullet  
> for dynamics and flavor...I'm adding a small 6ch mixer for more eq &  
> panning capabilities than the marshall, but it hasn't arrived  
> yet...my loop out of the rang will still be mono but I can separate  
> it from the live instruments and gain a little more clarity...
>
> thanks for the info and happy new year to you as well...
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: New Loop
> From: Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net>
> Date: Fri, January 01, 2010 1:19 pm
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Chris,
>
> Glad you liked it. There was not much post-production, but I went  
> directly out of my Allen& Heath mixing board into Pro Tools. This  
> way I got away from the boxy sounding mic on the camcorder. Then  
> when I mixed down in Protools I added a touch of Eq at  7k and 2db  
> worth of gain reduction through a Manley Vari-Mu compressor. I guess  
> some would say that is a decent amount of "Post Production"
> The reverbish sound of the loop is from the presets on the A&H  
> Mixing board.
> The only non-live portion of the looping, was the strat lead and one  
> of the high harmony vocal parts, which I did to cover up an off-key  
> part. The Strat went directly into Protools, where I added a hint of  
> reverb, nothing else.
> Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think the EDP  
> will give you a "better quality " sound. It really starts with the  
> quality of instruments, then your recording chain.
> The EDP probably has more options on it's looping capability, but I  
> have only scratched the surface with it and really just mostly use  
> the overdub feature to layer parts.
>
> Let me know if you have any other questions.
> Happy New Year
> Todd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:43 PM, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:
>
>> I've been lurking for a while as well, looping with a 'rang for a  
>> couple of years and am working up to shooting a vid of my  
>> performances, your work is inspiring...how much post work did you  
>> do to the track? if all that's live, I think I might have to move  
>> past my boomerang if this is what an edp sounds like.  I play  
>> guitar, bass and sing and the low vocals really sound clear...loved  
>> the track and I echo the comments on the track's progression into  
>> chaos...nice.
>>
>> Chris
>> http://www.flatheadband.com
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: New Loop
>> From: Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net>
>> Date: Wed, December 30, 2009 12:02 pm
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>
>>
>> Loopers,
>>
>> I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've
>> learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I
>> would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP  
>> manual.
>>
>>
>> Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.
>> It is through my EDP.
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEzb0TzvOY
>>
>> Thanks
>> Todd Chambeau
>>
>


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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">Chris,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for schooling me, I foolishly didn't =
even consider the sampling rate etc. With the EDP I am able to put =
several layers of guitars/bass and vocals, all with good clarity. I am =
fairly new to all of the electronics, since spending the last 20+ years =
&nbsp;just beating on an unplugged Martin.</div><div>My friends still =
remind me of when I said "I would never go electric or record on =
computers"</div><div>What can I say, I was a young and dumb =
hippy.</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck with your =
upgrade.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>=
<div><br><div><div>On Jan 1, 2010, at 7:30 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:fh@flatheadband.com">fh@flatheadband.com</a> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; =
font-size:10pt;"><div>I see, I was thinking of upgrading from the 'rang =
due to sample rate and routing/panning options.&nbsp; I'm not as =
concerned about recording quality (I don't record my looping other than =
to capture the moment), this is for live solo performance and I like =
simplicity. for 'in the box' looping and recording I use =
software.</div><div><br></div><div> I've got a decent signal chain: =
taylor 314ce with a bagg's m1/padi preamp, beta58 vocal mic, green =
bullet harmonica mic, marshall as50r acoustic amp, 'rang and pedals in =
the loop so I can loop/effect vocals and guitar...but the boomerang's =
best sampling rate is only 24k, 11.76k freq max... so once I layer about =
5-6 things it gets a little muddy with no panning options. I compensate =
with some pedals and technique on guitar and vocals, like singing in the =
green bullet for dynamics and flavor...I'm adding a small 6ch mixer for =
more eq &amp; panning capabilities than the marshall, but it hasn't =
arrived yet...my loop out of the rang will still be mono but I can =
separate it from the live instruments and gain a little more =
clarity...</div><div><br></div><div>thanks for the info and happy new =
year to you as well...<br><br></div> <blockquote id=3D"replyBlockquote" =
webmail=3D"1" style=3D"border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; =
padding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: =
verdana;"> <div> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: New =
Loop<br> From: Todd Chambeau &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br> =
Date: Fri, January 01, 2010 1:19 pm<br> To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br> <br> Chris,<div><br></div><div>Glad you liked it. =
There was not much post-production, but I went directly out of my =
Allen&amp; Heath mixing board into Pro Tools. This way I got away from =
the boxy sounding mic on the camcorder. Then when I mixed down in =
Protools I added a touch of Eq at &nbsp;7k and 2db worth of gain =
reduction through a Manley Vari-Mu compressor. I guess some would say =
that is a decent amount of "Post Production"</div><div>The reverbish =
sound of the loop is from the presets on the A&amp;H Mixing =
board.</div><div>The only non-live portion of the looping, was the strat =
lead and one of the high harmony vocal parts, which I did to cover up an =
off-key part. The Strat went directly into Protools, where I added a =
hint of reverb, nothing else.</div><div>Someone can correct me if I am =
wrong, but I do not think the EDP will give you a "better quality " =
sound. It really starts with the quality of instruments, then your =
recording chain.</div><div>The EDP probably has more options on it's =
looping capability, but I have only scratched the surface with it and =
really just mostly use the overdub feature to layer =
parts.</div><div><br></div><div>Let me know if you have any other =
questions.</div><div>Happy New =
Year</div><div>Todd</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div=
><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 1, =
2010, at 12:43 PM, <a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:fh@flatheadband.com">fh@flatheadband.com</a> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" style=3D"border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; =
padding-left: 8px;"><div><span style=3D"font-family: Verdana; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt;"><div>I've been lurking for a while as =
well, looping with a 'rang for a couple of years and am working up to =
shooting a vid of my performances, your work is inspiring...how much =
post work did you do to the track? if all that's live, I think I might =
have to move past my boomerang if this is what an edp sounds like.&nbsp; =
I play guitar, bass and sing and the low vocals really sound =
clear...loved the track and I echo the comments on the track's =
progression into =
chaos...nice.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Chris</div><div><a =
target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.flatheadband.com">http://www.flatheadband.com</a><br></=
div> <blockquote id=3D"replyBlockquote" webmail=3D"1" =
style=3D"border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: =
8px; font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: verdana;"> <div> =
-------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: New Loop<br> From: Todd =
Chambeau &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br> =
Date: Wed, December 30, 2009 12:02 pm<br> To: <a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br> <br> <br> Loopers,<br> <br> I just wanted to thank =
everyone for the help over the last year. I've <br> learned alot from =
just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I <br> would also like =
to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manual.<br> <br> <br> =
Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.<br> It =
is through my EDP.<br> <br> <br> <a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY">http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY</a><br> <br> Thanks<br> Todd Chambeau<br> <br> =
</div> </blockquote></span></div> </blockquote></div><br></div> </div> =
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Quoting Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>:
> *
> Happy New Years,   everybody!
>
> I feel very grateful for this wonderful community and
> I feel like we have a really amazing decade ahead of us as live loopers.
>

Hi everyone!

Just want to wish everyone a Happy New Year.  I am very grateful to  
everyone who contributes their ideas on this list.

This community is a source of inspiration and support and I appreciate  
all of you.

Look forward to seeing some of you at Y2KX and perhaps at other events  
this year.

Sincerely,

Kevin

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Me thinks I was ignorantly thinking Rainer.  I rushed the name which I can
still change.  The original thought here was akin to what I think the folks
in the NW (States) set up, to organize looping musicians in the eastern US.

If I expand this to continue east across the pond we'll eventually meet Rick
in the West no! which reminds me are we the knights that go east or west
(grins).  Clearly though anybody can come in as should we ever organize some
kind of event equiv to Y2K clearly it would welcome our European brethren.

Is there already a European FB looping community or is a worldwide
inclusive?  For the purposes of networking in our own regions it seems to me
that these 'groups' should possibly all be sort of like states in a country
or countries in a world.  Gosh come on in!  I'm on my 2nd beer and can't
think too much right now though I am about to start recording...

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any point
> on earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping) culture, so
> "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe? ;)
>
>  Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and
>> created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt 'coast' was
>> limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this community here in
>> the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and
>> join up and let's get a festival going in this neck of the woods!
>>
>>  --
> http://moinlabs.de
>
>


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www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
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www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Me thinks I was ignorantly thinking Rainer.=A0 I rushed the name which I ca=
n still change.=A0 The original thought here was akin to what I think the f=
olks in the NW (States) set up, to organize looping musicians in the easter=
n US.<br>
<br>If I expand this to continue east across the pond we&#39;ll eventually =
meet Rick in the West no! which reminds me are we the knights that go east =
or west (grins).=A0 Clearly though anybody can come in as should we ever or=
ganize some kind of event equiv to Y2K clearly it would welcome our Europea=
n brethren.<br>
<br>Is there already a European FB looping community or is a worldwide incl=
usive?=A0 For the purposes of networking in our own regions it seems to me =
that these &#39;groups&#39; should possibly all be sort of like states in a=
 country or countries in a world.=A0 Gosh come on in!=A0 I&#39;m on my 2nd =
beer and can&#39;t think too much right now though I am about to start reco=
rding...<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Stras=
chill <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com">moi=
nsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0=
pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any point o=
n earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping) culture, so=
 &quot;Eastern US&quot; and &quot;Eastern&quot; is synonymous.<br>
Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe? ;)=
<div class=3D"im"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and created=
 a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt &#39;coast&#39; was limiti=
ng, so it&#39;s now Eastern Loopers. =A0If you are in this community here i=
n the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below a=
nd join up and let&#39;s get a festival going in this neck of the woods!<br=
>

<br>
</blockquote>
-- <br>
</div><a href=3D"http://moinlabs.de" target=3D"_blank">http://moinlabs.de</=
a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.c=
om/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusi=
c.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
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I wish you, Rick, and to the hole list a wonderful 2010.

Very best, Ariel.

On Friday, January 1, 2010, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> *
> Happy New Years, =A0 everybody!
>
> I feel very grateful for this wonderful community and
> I feel like we have a really amazing decade ahead of us as live loopers.
>
> NAMM is just around the corner and Bill and I will be demoing the cool ne=
w LP-2 MINI looper
> that Bob Amstadt has been working so hard on in recent months and
> I know a lot of interactive, multi-media live looping is on it's way in t=
he opening years of the decade.
>
> The Y2K-X International Live Looping Festival will celebrate our 10th ann=
iversary
> with the largest festival ever from October 12th -19th, 2010 in Santa Cru=
z, California.
>
> I'm going to have multiple performance venues, clinics and gear demonstra=
tions and interactive
> multi-media this year.
>
> Please come to Santa Cruz and participate! =A0 All are welcome.
>
> May this year be creative and fulfilling on all levels for everyone here!
>
> Thank you all for being an extended family!
>
> yours, =A0Rick Walker
> *
>
>

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margaret noble wrote:
> I like the guy's Matrix mixer at http://www.metalbox.com/
> 
> but i am running is the Shure Auxpander would do the same tricks ?
> 
> http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/MixersAndDSP/us_pro_Auxpander_content
>  


The difference is that the Matrix Mixer will work with control voltages
as well as audio, the Shure unit won't.
In tech terms, this means the MM will work with DC signals as well as AC.
In musician terms this means that the Shure unit will do feedback loops just fine.

Andy's tips for feedback:
Use a compressor in the feedback loop, with low threshold
and low ratio (2:1?), attack and release can be slow
 ....unless of course you actually want screaming distortion.
Use a graphic equalizer to really pick out the parts of
the sound you find interesting.

andy butler

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I guess that leaves the Mid-west for all of us left in between coasts.

I'm in Kansas City myself.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: NW Loopers Facebook


  Ok then perhaps we should create a Northeast Loopers page or possibly =
the eastern seaboard for our friends all along the east coast... how =
about 'Loops that Go East'...


  On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com> =
wrote:

    OR, WA, ID, CA! Loopers

    Okay then, I started a NW Loopers page for Facebook.
    Join in and let's see what happens

    J.D.Devros  --Portland, OR
    deafrose58



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Hi Chris,

You might want to take a look at the Rang III.
Two Sample Rates - 48KHz or 24KHz, both with 20 bit samples; through
signal is always 48KHz with 24 bit samples

http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html

The Rang was my first looper (not counting my first adventures of dubbing
sounds from one portable tape recorder to another for a max of about 4
loops before it just all went to noise).
I loved it's ease of use.
I also had an echoplex which I loved, but it was stolen and lately I've
been using mobius and bidule on my laptop.
Even though I like the flexibility of my laptop setup I find I spend way
too much time looking at the screen during performances.
I'm currently using the looping function in the m9 which is a really great
pedal, but I'm missing my stereo.

If you don't need stereo you should definitely have a look at Bob
Amstadt's mini Looperlative. I don't think it's out yet but I saw a Beta
version when I was at Rick's place. If stereo wasn't an issue for me I'd
get it.

Of course I'm still trying to think of a way to scrape up some funds for
the LP1. Ahhh.... one can dream.

A fellow looper from Bim,

Andre

http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa
http://www.andredonawa.com
http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa

On Fri, January 1, 2010 8:30 pm, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:
> I see, I was thinking of upgrading from the 'rang due to sample rate and
> routing/panning options.  I'm not as concerned about recording quality (I
> don't record my looping other than to capture the moment), this is for
> live solo performance and I like simplicity. for 'in the box' looping and
> recording I use software.
>  I've got a decent signal chain: taylor 314ce with a bagg's m1/padi
> preamp, beta58 vocal mic, green bullet harmonica mic, marshall as50r
> acoustic amp, 'rang and pedals in the loop so I can loop/effect vocals
> and guitar...but the boomerang's best sampling rate is only 24k, 11.76k
> freq max... so once I layer about 5-6 things it gets a little muddy with
> no panning options. I compensate with some pedals and technique on guitar
> and vocals, like singing in the green bullet for dynamics and
> flavor...I'm adding a small 6ch mixer for more eq &amp; panning
> capabilities than the marshall, but it hasn't arrived yet...my loop out
> of the rang will still be mono but I can separate it from the live
> instruments and gain a little more clarity...
> thanks for the info and happy new year to you as well...
>
>    -------- Original Message --------
>  Subject: Re: New Loop
>  From: Todd Chambeau
>  Date: Fri, January 01, 2010 1:19 pm
>  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>  Chris,
> Glad you liked it. There was not much post-production, but I went directly
> out of my Allen&amp; Heath mixing board into Pro Tools. This way I got
> away from the boxy sounding mic on the camcorder. Then when I mixed down
> in Protools I added a touch of Eq at  7k and 2db worth of gain reduction
> through a Manley Vari-Mu compressor. I guess some would say that is a
> decent amount of "Post Production"The reverbish sound of the loop is from
> the presets on the A&amp;H Mixing board.The only non-live portion of the
> looping, was the strat lead and one of the high harmony vocal parts, which
> I did to cover up an off-key part. The Strat went directly into Protools,
> where I added a hint of reverb, nothing else.Someone can correct me if I
> am wrong, but I do not think the EDP will give you a "better quality "
> sound. It really starts with the quality of instruments, then your
> recording chain.The EDP probably has more options on it's looping
> capability, but I have only scratched the surface with it and really just
> mostly use the overdub feature to layer parts.
> Let me know if you have any other questions.Happy New YearTodd
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:43 PM, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:I've been lurking
> for a while as well, looping with a 'rang for a couple of years and am
> working up to shooting a vid of my performances, your work is
> inspiring...how much post work did you do to the track? if all that's
> live, I think I might have to move past my boomerang if this is what an
> edp sounds like.  I play guitar, bass and sing and the low vocals really
> sound clear...loved the track and I echo the comments on the track's
> progression into chaos...nice.
>
> Chrishttp://www.flatheadband.com
>    -------- Original Message --------
>  Subject: New Loop
>  From: Todd Chambeau
>  Date: Wed, December 30, 2009 12:02 pm
>  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
>  Loopers,
>
>  I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've
>  learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I
>  would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manual.
>
>
>  Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.
>  It is through my EDP.
>
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEzb0TzvOY
>
>  Thanks
>  Todd Chambeau
>
>
>





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<html><body><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10=
pt;"><div>I started looking for an edp yesterday after reading Todd's post =
and hearing his work...of course there are no edp's that I can find&nbsp; t=
o buy, and the search lead me to the looperlative site.&nbsp; the lp1 looks=
 really sweet. it's a little pricey for me at the moment but i might swing =
it... but I'd also have to get a good midi Ed's (sorry but behringer gear, =
specifically their mixers, preamps, and di's, has always sucked in my exper=
ience and I know their fcb1010? gets a lot of love here, i could try one at=
 gc I guess).&nbsp; I play around with ambiloop connected to audiomulch via=
 virtual audio cable on my pc, controlled with my qwerty kb, and with a goo=
d laptop that would be more than enough for what I do if i added a midi foo=
t controller, but I've had stability issues with computers (even highend ma=
cbook pros) at live gigs and just don't trust that kind of setup right now.=
&nbsp; the lp1 does look great, I didn't see a mini on their product page..=
.</div><div><br></div><div>on the rang III, I've debated over getting that =
as well...now that it's out of beta I might just go that route, I just wish=
 it had a similar layout to the original...as you know there's nothing like=
 not having to bend down at all during a performance..no knobs is a great t=
hing. also, with a new looper I'd like to finally be able to midi sync to a=
 drum machine or the like, and the 'rang III's midi capabilities are limite=
d at this point (ports are for software upgrades and linking to other 'rang=
 III's).</div><div><br></div><div>with a higher sampling rate I could proba=
bly get by without panning as I have become really good at layering on this=
 old 'rang..it comes down to technique more than anything...lots of practic=
e...lots.&nbsp; I jam at least 3-4 hours a day looping and writing. and oth=
er days it playing bass with bands or recording traditionally (drums, bass,=
 guitar and vocals).<br></div><div><br></div><div>thanks for the info Andre=
, I'd love to see/read up on the looperlative mini you're talking about...a=
lso checked out your site, is your material looped live or tracked? in2mate=
 sounded really cool..<br></div><div><br></div><div>and Todd, I've done the=
 simple acoustic/vocal thing for years too...sometimes it's the best thing =
in the world not to worry about any real gear huh? :)</div><div><br></div><=
div>thanks again,<br></div><div>Chris<br></div>
<blockquote id=3D"replyBlockquote" webmail=3D"1" style=3D"border-left: 2px =
solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; color: bl=
ack; font-family: verdana;">
<div   >
-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: RE: New Loop<br>
From: Andr=C3=A9_Donawa &lt;andre@andredonawa.com&gt;<br>
Date: Sat, January 02, 2010 9:44 am<br>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<br>
Hi Chris,<br>
<br>
You might want to take a look at the Rang III.<br>
Two Sample Rates - 48KHz or 24KHz, both with 20 bit samples; through<br>
signal is always 48KHz with 24 bit samples<br>
<br>
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html"=
>http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html</a><br>
<br>
The Rang was my first looper (not counting my first adventures of dubbing<b=
r>
sounds from one portable tape recorder to another for a max of about 4<br>
loops before it just all went to noise).<br>
I loved it's ease of use.<br>
I also had an echoplex which I loved, but it was stolen and lately I've<br>
been using mobius and bidule on my laptop.<br>
Even though I like the flexibility of my laptop setup I find I spend way<br=
>
too much time looking at the screen during performances.<br>
I'm currently using the looping function in the m9 which is a really great<=
br>
pedal, but I'm missing my stereo.<br>
<br>
If you don't need stereo you should definitely have a look at Bob<br>
Amstadt's mini Looperlative. I don't think it's out yet but I saw a Beta<br=
>
version when I was at Rick's place. If stereo wasn't an issue for me I'd<br=
>
get it.<br>
<br>
Of course I'm still trying to think of a way to scrape up some funds for<br=
>
the LP1. Ahhh.... one can dream.<br>
<br>
A fellow looper from Bim,<br>
<br>
Andre<br>
<br>
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa">http://twitter=
.com/AndreDonawa</a><br>
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.andredonawa.com">http://www.andredo=
nawa.com</a><br>
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa">http://cdba=
by.com/all/andredonawa</a><br>
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa">http://www=
.myspace.com/andredonawa</a><br>
<br>
On Fri, January 1, 2010 8:30 pm, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:<br>
&gt; I see, I was thinking of upgrading from the 'rang due to sample rate a=
nd<br>
&gt; routing/panning options.  I'm not as concerned about recording quality=
 (I<br>
&gt; don't record my looping other than to capture the moment), this is for=
<br>
&gt; live solo performance and I like simplicity. for 'in the box' looping =
and<br>
&gt; recording I use software.<br>
&gt;  I've got a decent signal chain: taylor 314ce with a bagg's m1/padi<br=
>
&gt; preamp, beta58 vocal mic, green bullet harmonica mic, marshall as50r<b=
r>
&gt; acoustic amp, 'rang and pedals in the loop so I can loop/effect vocals=
<br>
&gt; and guitar...but the boomerang's best sampling rate is only 24k, 11.76=
k<br>
&gt; freq max... so once I layer about 5-6 things it gets a little muddy wi=
th<br>
&gt; no panning options. I compensate with some pedals and technique on gui=
tar<br>
&gt; and vocals, like singing in the green bullet for dynamics and<br>
&gt; flavor...I'm adding a small 6ch mixer for more eq &amp;amp; panning<br=
>
&gt; capabilities than the marshall, but it hasn't arrived yet...my loop ou=
t<br>
&gt; of the rang will still be mono but I can separate it from the live<br>
&gt; instruments and gain a little more clarity...<br>
&gt; thanks for the info and happy new year to you as well...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    -------- Original Message --------<br>
&gt;  Subject: Re: New Loop<br>
&gt;  From: Todd Chambeau<br>
&gt;  Date: Fri, January 01, 2010 1:19 pm<br>
&gt;  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;  Chris,<br>
&gt; Glad you liked it. There was not much post-production, but I went dire=
ctly<br>
&gt; out of my Allen&amp;amp; Heath mixing board into Pro Tools. This way I=
 got<br>
&gt; away from the boxy sounding mic on the camcorder. Then when I mixed do=
wn<br>
&gt; in Protools I added a touch of Eq at  7k and 2db worth of gain reducti=
on<br>
&gt; through a Manley Vari-Mu compressor. I guess some would say that is a<=
br>
&gt; decent amount of "Post Production"The reverbish sound of the loop is f=
rom<br>
&gt; the presets on the A&amp;amp;H Mixing board.The only non-live portion =
of the<br>
&gt; looping, was the strat lead and one of the high harmony vocal parts, w=
hich<br>
&gt; I did to cover up an off-key part. The Strat went directly into Protoo=
ls,<br>
&gt; where I added a hint of reverb, nothing else.Someone can correct me if=
 I<br>
&gt; am wrong, but I do not think the EDP will give you a "better quality "=
<br>
&gt; sound. It really starts with the quality of instruments, then your<br>
&gt; recording chain.The EDP probably has more options on it's looping<br>
&gt; capability, but I have only scratched the surface with it and really j=
ust<br>
&gt; mostly use the overdub feature to layer parts.<br>
&gt; Let me know if you have any other questions.Happy New YearTodd<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:43 PM, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:I've been lurki=
ng<br>
&gt; for a while as well, looping with a 'rang for a couple of years and am=
<br>
&gt; working up to shooting a vid of my performances, your work is<br>
&gt; inspiring...how much post work did you do to the track? if all that's<=
br>
&gt; live, I think I might have to move past my boomerang if this is what a=
n<br>
&gt; edp sounds like.  I play guitar, bass and sing and the low vocals real=
ly<br>
&gt; sound clear...loved the track and I echo the comments on the track's<b=
r>
&gt; progression into chaos...nice.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Chris<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.flatheadband.com">http://=
www.flatheadband.com</a><br>
&gt;    -------- Original Message --------<br>
&gt;  Subject: New Loop<br>
&gt;  From: Todd Chambeau<br>
&gt;  Date: Wed, December 30, 2009 12:02 pm<br>
&gt;  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;  Loopers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;  I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've=
<br>
&gt;  learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I=
<br>
&gt;  would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manu=
al.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;  Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.<br>
&gt;  It is through my EDP.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;  <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0T=
zvOY">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;  Thanks<br>
&gt;  Todd Chambeau<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>

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<html><body><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10=
pt;"><div>"<span style=3D"font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-s=
ize: 10pt;">but I'd also have to get a good midi Ed's"..typo.&nbsp; "good m=
idi FC (foot controller)" is what I meant to say...stupid spellchecker got =
me again...:)</span><br><br></div>
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ack; font-family: verdana;">
<div   >
-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: RE: New Loop<br>
From: fh@flatheadband.com<br>
Date: Sat, January 02, 2010 11:09 am<br>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt;"=
><div>I started looking for an edp yesterday after reading Todd's post and =
hearing his work...of course there are no edp's that I can find&nbsp; to bu=
y, and the search lead me to the looperlative site.&nbsp; the lp1 looks rea=
lly sweet. it's a little pricey for me at the moment but i might swing it..=
. but I'd also have to get a good midi Ed's (sorry but behringer gear, spec=
ifically their mixers, preamps, and di's, has always sucked in my experienc=
e and I know their fcb1010? gets a lot of love here, i could try one at gc =
I guess).&nbsp; I play around with ambiloop connected to audiomulch via vir=
tual audio cable on my pc, controlled with my qwerty kb, and with a good la=
ptop that would be more than enough for what I do if i added a midi foot co=
ntroller, but I've had stability issues with computers (even highend macboo=
k pros) at live gigs and just don't trust that kind of setup right now.&nbs=
p; the lp1 does look great, I didn't see a mini on their product page...</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>on the rang III, I've debated over getting that as w=
ell...now that it's out of beta I might just go that route, I just wish it =
had a similar layout to the original...as you know there's nothing like not=
 having to bend down at all during a performance..no knobs is a great thing=
. also, with a new looper I'd like to finally be able to midi sync to a dru=
m machine or the like, and the 'rang III's midi capabilities are limited at=
 this point (ports are for software upgrades and linking to other 'rang III=
's).</div><div><br></div><div>with a higher sampling rate I could probably =
get by without panning as I have become really good at layering on this old=
 'rang..it comes down to technique more than anything...lots of practice...=
lots.&nbsp; I jam at least 3-4 hours a day looping and writing. and other d=
ays it playing bass with bands or recording traditionally (drums, bass, gui=
tar and vocals).<br></div><div><br></div><div>thanks for the info Andre, I'=
d love to see/read up on the looperlative mini you're talking about...also =
checked out your site, is your material looped live or tracked? in2mate sou=
nded really cool..<br></div><div><br></div><div>and Todd, I've done the sim=
ple acoustic/vocal thing for years too...sometimes it's the best thing in t=
he world not to worry about any real gear huh? :)</div><div><br></div><div>=
thanks again,<br></div><div>Chris<br></div> <blockquote id=3D"replyBlockquo=
te" webmail=3D"1" style=3D"border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; p=
adding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: verdana;"> <d=
iv> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: RE: New Loop<br> From: =
Andr=C3=A9_Donawa &lt;andre@andredonawa.com&gt;<br> Date: Sat, January 02, =
2010 9:44 am<br> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br> <br> Hi Chris,=
<br> <br> You might want to take a look at the Rang III.<br> Two Sample Rat=
es - 48KHz or 24KHz, both with 20 bit samples; through<br> signal is always=
 48KHz with 24 bit samples<br> <br> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www=
.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html">http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20I=
II.html</a><br> <br> The Rang was my first looper (not counting my first ad=
ventures of dubbing<br> sounds from one portable tape recorder to another f=
or a max of about 4<br> loops before it just all went to noise).<br> I love=
d it's ease of use.<br> I also had an echoplex which I loved, but it was st=
olen and lately I've<br> been using mobius and bidule on my laptop.<br> Eve=
n though I like the flexibility of my laptop setup I find I spend way<br> t=
oo much time looking at the screen during performances.<br> I'm currently u=
sing the looping function in the m9 which is a really great<br> pedal, but =
I'm missing my stereo.<br> <br> If you don't need stereo you should definit=
ely have a look at Bob<br> Amstadt's mini Looperlative. I don't think it's =
out yet but I saw a Beta<br> version when I was at Rick's place. If stereo =
wasn't an issue for me I'd<br> get it.<br> <br> Of course I'm still trying =
to think of a way to scrape up some funds for<br> the LP1. Ahhh.... one can=
 dream.<br> <br> A fellow looper from Bim,<br> <br> Andre<br> <br> <a targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa">http://twitter.com/And=
reDonawa</a><br> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.andredonawa.com">h=
ttp://www.andredonawa.com</a><br> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://cdbab=
y.com/all/andredonawa">http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa</a><br> <a target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa">http://www.myspace.=
com/andredonawa</a><br> <br> On Fri, January 1, 2010 8:30 pm, fh@flatheadba=
nd.com wrote:<br> &gt; I see, I was thinking of upgrading from the 'rang du=
e to sample rate and<br> &gt; routing/panning options. I'm not as concerned=
 about recording quality (I<br> &gt; don't record my looping other than to =
capture the moment), this is for<br> &gt; live solo performance and I like =
simplicity. for 'in the box' looping and<br> &gt; recording I use software.=
<br> &gt; I've got a decent signal chain: taylor 314ce with a bagg's m1/pad=
i<br> &gt; preamp, beta58 vocal mic, green bullet harmonica mic, marshall a=
s50r<br> &gt; acoustic amp, 'rang and pedals in the loop so I can loop/effe=
ct vocals<br> &gt; and guitar...but the boomerang's best sampling rate is o=
nly 24k, 11.76k<br> &gt; freq max... so once I layer about 5-6 things it ge=
ts a little muddy with<br> &gt; no panning options. I compensate with some =
pedals and technique on guitar<br> &gt; and vocals, like singing in the gre=
en bullet for dynamics and<br> &gt; flavor...I'm adding a small 6ch mixer f=
or more eq &amp;amp; panning<br> &gt; capabilities than the marshall, but i=
t hasn't arrived yet...my loop out<br> &gt; of the rang will still be mono =
but I can separate it from the live<br> &gt; instruments and gain a little =
more clarity...<br> &gt; thanks for the info and happy new year to you as w=
ell...<br> &gt;<br> &gt; -------- Original Message --------<br> &gt; Subjec=
t: Re: New Loop<br> &gt; From: Todd Chambeau<br> &gt; Date: Fri, January 01=
, 2010 1:19 pm<br> &gt; To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br> &gt;<br=
> &gt; Chris,<br> &gt; Glad you liked it. There was not much post-productio=
n, but I went directly<br> &gt; out of my Allen&amp;amp; Heath mixing board=
 into Pro Tools. This way I got<br> &gt; away from the boxy sounding mic on=
 the camcorder. Then when I mixed down<br> &gt; in Protools I added a touch=
 of Eq at 7k and 2db worth of gain reduction<br> &gt; through a Manley Vari=
-Mu compressor. I guess some would say that is a<br> &gt; decent amount of =
"Post Production"The reverbish sound of the loop is from<br> &gt; the prese=
ts on the A&amp;amp;H Mixing board.The only non-live portion of the<br> &gt=
; looping, was the strat lead and one of the high harmony vocal parts, whic=
h<br> &gt; I did to cover up an off-key part. The Strat went directly into =
Protools,<br> &gt; where I added a hint of reverb, nothing else.Someone can=
 correct me if I<br> &gt; am wrong, but I do not think the EDP will give yo=
u a "better quality "<br> &gt; sound. It really starts with the quality of =
instruments, then your<br> &gt; recording chain.The EDP probably has more o=
ptions on it's looping<br> &gt; capability, but I have only scratched the s=
urface with it and really just<br> &gt; mostly use the overdub feature to l=
ayer parts.<br> &gt; Let me know if you have any other questions.Happy New =
YearTodd<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt; On =
Jan 1, 2010, at 12:43 PM, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:I've been lurking<br> &=
gt; for a while as well, looping with a 'rang for a couple of years and am<=
br> &gt; working up to shooting a vid of my performances, your work is<br> =
&gt; inspiring...how much post work did you do to the track? if all that's<=
br> &gt; live, I think I might have to move past my boomerang if this is wh=
at an<br> &gt; edp sounds like. I play guitar, bass and sing and the low vo=
cals really<br> &gt; sound clear...loved the track and I echo the comments =
on the track's<br> &gt; progression into chaos...nice.<br> &gt;<br> &gt; Ch=
ris<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.flatheadband.com">http://www.fla=
theadband.com</a><br> &gt; -------- Original Message --------<br> &gt; Subj=
ect: New Loop<br> &gt; From: Todd Chambeau<br> &gt; Date: Wed, December 30,=
 2009 12:02 pm<br> &gt; To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br> &gt;<br=
> &gt;<br> &gt; Loopers,<br> &gt;<br> &gt; I just wanted to thank everyone =
for the help over the last year. I've<br> &gt; learned alot from just lurki=
ng and asking the occasional questions. I<br> &gt; would also like to thank=
 Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP manual.<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;=
 Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.<br> &gt; I=
t is through my EDP.<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt; <a target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY">http://www.youtube.com/wa=
tch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY</a><br> &gt;<br> &gt; Thanks<br> &gt; Todd Chambeau<br>=
 &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> </div> </blockquote></=
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Could you explain in short how the dl8 works, what its highlights are?=20
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honestly (& take my opinions w/ a grain of salt-i'm no "i can hear the diff=
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can it do the varispeed time shifts-no, sadly, but it warps the sound bette=
r than most other long delays that i've played w/-i HATED the boss dd20 b/c=
 it's delay time manipulation seemed futile to me (yes, it could do 23 sec,=
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he sound, and then when i like to do is then play something over the warble=
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owed down or sped up, it's just digital warbles/gurgles. but i find it usab=
le (more usable than my old digidelay/dd20/dd7)...i should point out that i=
 did think the ibanez de7 did a nice variaspeed fast/slow/slow/fast-but it'=
s delays were only 2.8 sec and i think the most repeats i counted were abou=
t 10 (no infinite), but it's fairly cheap pedal (60$ new)-i used it a TON f=
or a # of yrs, probably should have kept it, b/c i would use it and dump th=
e results to a sampler (oh well)...
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but man for that varispeed manipulation-the eh-smm w/ h-is AWESOME, and i'v=
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orks, what its highlights are? <BR>My biggest question: can you turn the "t=
ime" knob and get that varispeed <BR>effect like with the old Digitech PDS/=
RDS delays or the SMM w/Hazari in <BR>loop mode?</DIV>
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<DIV>can it do the varispeed time shifts-no, sadly, but it warps the sound =
better than most other long delays that i've played w/-i HATED the boss dd2=
0 b/c it's delay time manipulation seemed futile to me (yes, it could do 23=
 sec, but....). when you have 8 sec delay &amp; zip it to 2 sec it gurgles/=
warbles the sound, and then when i like to do is then play something over t=
he warble-to my ear-the sound is not really what you originally played accu=
rately slowed down or sped up, it's just digital warbles/gurgles. but i fin=
d it usable (more usable than my old digidelay/dd20/dd7)...i should point o=
ut that i did think the ibanez de7 did a nice variaspeed fast/slow/slow/fas=
t-but it's delays were only 2.8 sec and i think the most repeats i counted =
were about 10 (no infinite), but it's fairly cheap pedal (60$ new)-i used i=
t a TON for a # of yrs, probably should have kept it, b/c i would use it an=
d dump the results to a sampler (oh well)...</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>but man for that varispeed manipulation-the eh-smm w/ h-is AWESOME, an=
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From: scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>
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please note-Yahoo sent my 1st message prematurely-UGGGGGHHHH...
=A0
question: Could you explain in short how the dl8 works, what its highlights=
 are? My biggest question: can you turn the "time" knob and get that varisp=
eed effect like with the old Digitech PDS/RDS delays or the SMM w/Hazari in=
 loop mode?
=A0
answer:
honestly (& take my opinions w/ a grain of salt-i'm no "i can hear the diff=
erence in 9 volt batteries" kind of guy-ha!) the DL8 is similiar in most re=
gards to the dd7
=A0
can it do the varispeed time shifts-no, sadly, but it warps the sound bette=
r than most other long delays that i've played w/-i HATED the boss dd20 b/c=
 it's delay time manipulation seemed futile to me (yes, it could do 23 sec,=
 but....). when you have 8 sec delay & zip it to 2 sec it gurgles/warbles t=
he sound, and then when i like to do is then play something over the warble=
-to my ear-the sound is not really what you originally played accurately sl=
owed down or sped up, it's just digital warbles/gurgles. but i find it usab=
le (more usable than my old digidelay/dd20/dd7)...i should point out that i=
 did think the ibanez de7 did a nice variaspeed fast/slow/slow/fast-but it'=
s delays were only 2.8 sec and i think the most repeats i counted were abou=
t 10 (no infinite), but it's fairly cheap pedal (60$ new)-i used it a TON f=
or a # of yrs, probably should have kept it, b/c i would use it and dump th=
e results to a sampler (oh well)...
=A0
but man for that varispeed manipulation-the eh-smm w/ h-is AWESOME, and i'v=
e yet to look at the manual! it is quite the quirky delay & FUN!
=A0
as for differences between dl8 vs dd7-
they do basically same thing, except:
-dl8 goes to 8 sec of delay, dd7 has 6.4 sec in=A0stereo mode-so you have t=
o have 2 outputs=A0(and in mono which is how i use it, it's 3.2 sec)
-dl8 is a bit bigger, so more space in the knobs-which i like for fumbly fi=
ngers & being able to see @ 45 is nice, probably not an issue for the under=
 40 crowd out there...
-dl8 uses 'clicks' in the knobs, dd7 is smoother in knob turning, but i lik=
e the 'clicks' (again personal preference)
-i have heard folks talking about "sound quality" and some buffering-and to=
 my ear the digitech dl8 keeps the signal clean/clearer, and it's supposed =
to be true bypass-which isn't a big deal for me, i use lots of cheap pedals=
, but i do think the boss colors the sound a bit, so the dl8 wins on that f=
or me.
-i don't=A0 use the sound on sound sample much, but the boss dd7 wins w/ ti=
me w/ 40 sec vs the dl8's 20 sec -for some this may be more important-and i=
f you only had ONE loop option...
=A0
i hope this helps (or confuses you more?) if you're looking for=A0a super a=
ll in one do everything delay/looper in the dl8-i doubt you'll be happy, bu=
t i like it's option of 8 sec of delay and the tape/analog/lo-fi options ar=
e fun to use...
=A0
honestly i do wish that there was a pedal out there that would be more "del=
ay-based looping" that had great varispeed manipulations...sort of like wha=
t david torn demo'ed in his '93 vids-"painting w/ sound" w/ his old lexicon=
 pcm42. the things he could do w/ that i thought sounded great. i know if s=
uch a thing existed, people would complain about how much time it would hav=
e (his=A0 had 19 sec, my old dod d12 had 12 sec of delay i thought was grea=
t!), how easy it would be to use, etc...and cost...i guess i need to look a=
t the eventide delay pedal, but it's a bit out of my price range...over all=
 i 'm happy w/ what i have now, but it would be nice to see more "delay-loo=
ping options" available, instead of the "phrase sampler model" that are bec=
oming popular, and honestly when i joined this list back in '01 the looping=
 options were very limited, compared to now, there is a lot of choices, whi=
ch is nice....
happy new yr....sorry for the 1st premature send (damn yahoo & touchy butto=
ns!)...
happy looping....
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen=0A=0A=0A      
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<TD vAlign=3Dtop>
<DIV>please note-Yahoo sent my 1st message prematurely-UGGGGGHHHH...</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>question: Could you explain in short how the dl8 works, what its highl=
ights are? My biggest question: can you turn the "time" knob and get that v=
arispeed effect like with the old Digitech PDS/RDS delays or the SMM w/Haza=
ri in loop mode?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>answer:</DIV>
<DIV>honestly (&amp; take my opinions w/ a grain of salt-i'm no "i can hear=
 the difference in <SPAN class=3Dyshortcuts id=3Dlw_1262463958_0>9 volt bat=
teries</SPAN>" kind of guy-ha!) the DL8 is similiar in most regards to the =
dd7</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>can it do the varispeed time shifts-no, sadly, but it warps the sound =
better than most other long delays that i've played w/-i HATED the boss dd2=
0 b/c it's delay time manipulation seemed futile to me (yes, it could do 23=
 sec, but....). when you have 8 sec delay &amp; zip it to 2 sec it gurgles/=
warbles the sound, and then when i like to do is then play something over t=
he warble-to my ear-the sound is not really what you originally played accu=
rately slowed down or sped up, it's just digital warbles/gurgles. but i fin=
d it usable (more usable than my old digidelay/dd20/dd7)...i should point o=
ut that i did think the ibanez de7 did a nice variaspeed fast/slow/slow/fas=
t-but it's delays were only 2.8 sec and i think the most repeats i counted =
were about 10 (no infinite), but it's fairly cheap pedal (60$ new)-i used i=
t a TON for a # of yrs, probably should have kept it, b/c i would use it an=
d dump the results to a sampler (oh well)...</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>but man for that varispeed manipulation-the eh-smm w/ h-is AWESOME, an=
d i've yet to look at the manual! it is quite the quirky delay &amp; FUN!</=
DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>as for differences between dl8 vs dd7-</DIV>
<DIV>they do basically same thing, except:</DIV>
<DIV>-dl8 goes to 8 sec of delay, dd7 has 6.4 sec in&nbsp;stereo mode-so yo=
u have to have 2 outputs&nbsp;(and in mono which is how i use it, it's 3.2 =
sec)</DIV>
<DIV>-dl8 is a bit bigger, so more space in the knobs-which i like for fumb=
ly fingers &amp; being able to see @ 45 is nice, probably not an issue for =
the under 40 crowd out there...</DIV>
<DIV>-dl8 uses 'clicks' in the knobs, dd7 is smoother in knob turning, but =
i like the 'clicks' (again personal preference)</DIV>
<DIV>-i have heard folks talking about "sound quality" and some buffering-a=
nd to my ear the digitech dl8 keeps the signal clean/clearer, and it's supp=
osed to be true bypass-which isn't a big deal for me, i use lots of cheap p=
edals, but i do think the boss colors the sound a bit, so the dl8 wins on t=
hat for me.</DIV>
<DIV>-i don't&nbsp; use the sound on sound sample much, but the boss dd7 wi=
ns w/ time w/ 40 sec vs the dl8's 20 sec -for some this may be more importa=
nt-and if you only had ONE loop option...</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>i hope this helps (or confuses you more?) if you're looking for&nbsp;a=
 super all in one do everything delay/looper in the dl8-i doubt you'll be h=
appy, but i like it's option of 8 sec of delay and the tape/analog/lo-fi op=
tions are fun to use...</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>honestly i do wish that there was a pedal out there that would be more=
 "delay-based looping" that had great varispeed manipulations...sort of lik=
e what david torn demo'ed in his '93 vids-"painting w/ sound" w/ his old le=
xicon pcm42. the things he could do w/ that i thought sounded great. i know=
 if such a thing existed, people would complain about how much time it woul=
d have (his&nbsp; had 19 sec, my old dod d12 had 12 sec of delay i thought =
was great!), how easy it would be to use, etc...and cost...i guess i need t=
o look at the eventide delay pedal, but it's a bit out of my price range...=
over all i 'm happy w/ what i have now, but it would be nice to see more "d=
elay-looping options" available, instead of the "phrase sampler model" that=
 are becoming popular, and honestly when i joined this list back in '01 the=
 looping options were very limited, compared to now, there is a lot of choi=
ces, which is nice....</DIV>
<DIV>happy new yr....sorry for the 1st premature send (damn yahoo &amp; tou=
chy buttons!)...</DIV>
<DIV>happy looping....</DIV>
<DIV>s---</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/scotthansen">www.myspace.com/scottha=
nsen</A></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></td></tr></table><br>=0A=0A =
     
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I'm selling my EDP at the moment!

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On 2 Jan 2010, at 16:14, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:

> "but I'd also have to get a good midi Ed's"..typo.  "good midi FC =20
> (foot controller)" is what I meant to say...stupid spellchecker got =20=

> me again...:)
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: New Loop
> From: fh@flatheadband.com
> Date: Sat, January 02, 2010 11:09 am
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> I started looking for an edp yesterday after reading Todd's post =20
> and hearing his work...of course there are no edp's that I can =20
> find  to buy, and the search lead me to the looperlative site.  the =20=

> lp1 looks really sweet. it's a little pricey for me at the moment =20
> but i might swing it... but I'd also have to get a good midi Ed's =20
> (sorry but behringer gear, specifically their mixers, preamps, and =20
> di's, has always sucked in my experience and I know their fcb1010? =20
> gets a lot of love here, i could try one at gc I guess).  I play =20
> around with ambiloop connected to audiomulch via virtual audio =20
> cable on my pc, controlled with my qwerty kb, and with a good =20
> laptop that would be more than enough for what I do if i added a =20
> midi foot controller, but I've had stability issues with computers =20
> (even highend macbook pros) at live gigs and just don't trust that =20
> kind of setup right now.  the lp1 does look great, I didn't see a =20
> mini on their product page...
>
> on the rang III, I've debated over getting that as well...now that =20
> it's out of beta I might just go that route, I just wish it had a =20
> similar layout to the original...as you know there's nothing like =20
> not having to bend down at all during a performance..no knobs is a =20
> great thing. also, with a new looper I'd like to finally be able to =20=

> midi sync to a drum machine or the like, and the 'rang III's midi =20
> capabilities are limited at this point (ports are for software =20
> upgrades and linking to other 'rang III's).
>
> with a higher sampling rate I could probably get by without panning =20=

> as I have become really good at layering on this old 'rang..it =20
> comes down to technique more than anything...lots of =20
> practice...lots.  I jam at least 3-4 hours a day looping and =20
> writing. and other days it playing bass with bands or recording =20
> traditionally (drums, bass, guitar and vocals).
>
> thanks for the info Andre, I'd love to see/read up on the =20
> looperlative mini you're talking about...also checked out your =20
> site, is your material looped live or tracked? in2mate sounded =20
> really cool..
>
> and Todd, I've done the simple acoustic/vocal thing for years =20
> too...sometimes it's the best thing in the world not to worry about =20=

> any real gear huh? :)
>
> thanks again,
> Chris
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: New Loop
> From: Andr=E9_Donawa <andre@andredonawa.com>
> Date: Sat, January 02, 2010 9:44 am
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> You might want to take a look at the Rang III.
> Two Sample Rates - 48KHz or 24KHz, both with 20 bit samples; through
> signal is always 48KHz with 24 bit samples
>
> http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html
>
> The Rang was my first looper (not counting my first adventures of =20
> dubbing
> sounds from one portable tape recorder to another for a max of about 4
> loops before it just all went to noise).
> I loved it's ease of use.
> I also had an echoplex which I loved, but it was stolen and lately =20
> I've
> been using mobius and bidule on my laptop.
> Even though I like the flexibility of my laptop setup I find I =20
> spend way
> too much time looking at the screen during performances.
> I'm currently using the looping function in the m9 which is a =20
> really great
> pedal, but I'm missing my stereo.
>
> If you don't need stereo you should definitely have a look at Bob
> Amstadt's mini Looperlative. I don't think it's out yet but I saw a =20=

> Beta
> version when I was at Rick's place. If stereo wasn't an issue for =20
> me I'd
> get it.
>
> Of course I'm still trying to think of a way to scrape up some =20
> funds for
> the LP1. Ahhh.... one can dream.
>
> A fellow looper from Bim,
>
> Andre
>
> http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa
> http://www.andredonawa.com
> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa
>
> On Fri, January 1, 2010 8:30 pm, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:
> > I see, I was thinking of upgrading from the 'rang due to sample =20
> rate and
> > routing/panning options. I'm not as concerned about recording =20
> quality (I
> > don't record my looping other than to capture the moment), this =20
> is for
> > live solo performance and I like simplicity. for 'in the box' =20
> looping and
> > recording I use software.
> > I've got a decent signal chain: taylor 314ce with a bagg's m1/padi
> > preamp, beta58 vocal mic, green bullet harmonica mic, marshall as50r
> > acoustic amp, 'rang and pedals in the loop so I can loop/effect =20
> vocals
> > and guitar...but the boomerang's best sampling rate is only 24k, =20
> 11.76k
> > freq max... so once I layer about 5-6 things it gets a little =20
> muddy with
> > no panning options. I compensate with some pedals and technique =20
> on guitar
> > and vocals, like singing in the green bullet for dynamics and
> > flavor...I'm adding a small 6ch mixer for more eq &amp; panning
> > capabilities than the marshall, but it hasn't arrived yet...my =20
> loop out
> > of the rang will still be mono but I can separate it from the live
> > instruments and gain a little more clarity...
> > thanks for the info and happy new year to you as well...
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: New Loop
> > From: Todd Chambeau
> > Date: Fri, January 01, 2010 1:19 pm
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >
> > Chris,
> > Glad you liked it. There was not much post-production, but I went =20=

> directly
> > out of my Allen&amp; Heath mixing board into Pro Tools. This way =20
> I got
> > away from the boxy sounding mic on the camcorder. Then when I =20
> mixed down
> > in Protools I added a touch of Eq at 7k and 2db worth of gain =20
> reduction
> > through a Manley Vari-Mu compressor. I guess some would say that =20
> is a
> > decent amount of "Post Production"The reverbish sound of the loop =20=

> is from
> > the presets on the A&amp;H Mixing board.The only non-live portion =20=

> of the
> > looping, was the strat lead and one of the high harmony vocal =20
> parts, which
> > I did to cover up an off-key part. The Strat went directly into =20
> Protools,
> > where I added a hint of reverb, nothing else.Someone can correct =20
> me if I
> > am wrong, but I do not think the EDP will give you a "better =20
> quality "
> > sound. It really starts with the quality of instruments, then your
> > recording chain.The EDP probably has more options on it's looping
> > capability, but I have only scratched the surface with it and =20
> really just
> > mostly use the overdub feature to layer parts.
> > Let me know if you have any other questions.Happy New YearTodd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:43 PM, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:I've been =20
> lurking
> > for a while as well, looping with a 'rang for a couple of years =20
> and am
> > working up to shooting a vid of my performances, your work is
> > inspiring...how much post work did you do to the track? if all =20
> that's
> > live, I think I might have to move past my boomerang if this is =20
> what an
> > edp sounds like. I play guitar, bass and sing and the low vocals =20
> really
> > sound clear...loved the track and I echo the comments on the track's
> > progression into chaos...nice.
> >
> > Chrishttp://www.flatheadband.com
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: New Loop
> > From: Todd Chambeau
> > Date: Wed, December 30, 2009 12:02 pm
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >
> >
> > Loopers,
> >
> > I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. =20
> I've
> > learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional =20
> questions. I
> > would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP =20
> manual.
> >
> >
> > Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.
> > It is through my EDP.
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY
> >
> > Thanks
> > Todd Chambeau
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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I'm selling my EDP at the moment!<div><br><div> <span =
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Stevens</div><div>www.mattstevensguitar.com</div><div><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 2 Jan 2010, =
at 16:14, <a href=3D"mailto:fh@flatheadband.com">fh@flatheadband.com</a> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; =
font-size:10pt;"><div>"<span style=3D"font-family: Verdana; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt;">but I'd also have to get a good midi =
Ed's"..typo.&nbsp; "good midi FC (foot controller)" is what I meant to =
say...stupid spellchecker got me again...:)</span><br><br></div> =
<blockquote id=3D"replyBlockquote" webmail=3D"1" style=3D"border-left: =
2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; =
color: black; font-family: verdana;"> <div> -------- Original Message =
--------<br> Subject: RE: New Loop<br> From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:fh@flatheadband.com">fh@flatheadband.com</a><br> Date: =
Sat, January 02, 2010 11:09 am<br> To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br> <br> <span style=3D"font-family: Verdana; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt;"><div>I started looking for an edp =
yesterday after reading Todd's post and hearing his work...of course =
there are no edp's that I can find&nbsp; to buy, and the search lead me =
to the looperlative site.&nbsp; the lp1 looks really sweet. it's a =
little pricey for me at the moment but i might swing it... but I'd also =
have to get a good midi Ed's (sorry but behringer gear, specifically =
their mixers, preamps, and di's, has always sucked in my experience and =
I know their fcb1010? gets a lot of love here, i could try one at gc I =
guess).&nbsp; I play around with ambiloop connected to audiomulch via =
virtual audio cable on my pc, controlled with my qwerty kb, and with a =
good laptop that would be more than enough for what I do if i added a =
midi foot controller, but I've had stability issues with computers (even =
highend macbook pros) at live gigs and just don't trust that kind of =
setup right now.&nbsp; the lp1 does look great, I didn't see a mini on =
their product page...</div><div><br></div><div>on the rang III, I've =
debated over getting that as well...now that it's out of beta I might =
just go that route, I just wish it had a similar layout to the =
original...as you know there's nothing like not having to bend down at =
all during a performance..no knobs is a great thing. also, with a new =
looper I'd like to finally be able to midi sync to a drum machine or the =
like, and the 'rang III's midi capabilities are limited at this point =
(ports are for software upgrades and linking to other 'rang =
III's).</div><div><br></div><div>with a higher sampling rate I could =
probably get by without panning as I have become really good at layering =
on this old 'rang..it comes down to technique more than anything...lots =
of practice...lots.&nbsp; I jam at least 3-4 hours a day looping and =
writing. and other days it playing bass with bands or recording =
traditionally (drums, bass, guitar and =
vocals).<br></div><div><br></div><div>thanks for the info Andre, I'd =
love to see/read up on the looperlative mini you're talking about...also =
checked out your site, is your material looped live or tracked? in2mate =
sounded really cool..<br></div><div><br></div><div>and Todd, I've done =
the simple acoustic/vocal thing for years too...sometimes it's the best =
thing in the world not to worry about any real gear huh? =
:)</div><div><br></div><div>thanks again,<br></div><div>Chris<br></div> =
<blockquote id=3D"replyBlockquote" webmail=3D"1" style=3D"border-left: =
2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; =
color: black; font-family: verdana;"> <div> -------- Original Message =
--------<br> Subject: RE: New Loop<br> From: Andr=E9_Donawa &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:andre@andredonawa.com">andre@andredonawa.com</a>&gt;<br> =
Date: Sat, January 02, 2010 9:44 am<br> To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br> <br> Hi Chris,<br> <br> You might want to take a =
look at the Rang III.<br> Two Sample Rates - 48KHz or 24KHz, both with =
20 bit samples; through<br> signal is always 48KHz with 24 bit =
samples<br> <br> <a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html">http://www.boomeran=
gmusic.com/Rang%20III.html</a><br> <br> The Rang was my first looper =
(not counting my first adventures of dubbing<br> sounds from one =
portable tape recorder to another for a max of about 4<br> loops before =
it just all went to noise).<br> I loved it's ease of use.<br> I also had =
an echoplex which I loved, but it was stolen and lately I've<br> been =
using mobius and bidule on my laptop.<br> Even though I like the =
flexibility of my laptop setup I find I spend way<br> too much time =
looking at the screen during performances.<br> I'm currently using the =
looping function in the m9 which is a really great<br> pedal, but I'm =
missing my stereo.<br> <br> If you don't need stereo you should =
definitely have a look at Bob<br> Amstadt's mini Looperlative. I don't =
think it's out yet but I saw a Beta<br> version when I was at Rick's =
place. If stereo wasn't an issue for me I'd<br> get it.<br> <br> Of =
course I'm still trying to think of a way to scrape up some funds =
for<br> the LP1. Ahhh.... one can dream.<br> <br> A fellow looper from =
Bim,<br> <br> Andre<br> <br> <a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa">http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa</a>=
<br> <a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.andredonawa.com">http://www.andredonawa.com</a><br> =
<a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa">http://cdbaby.com/all/andredona=
wa</a><br> <a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa">http://www.myspace.com/andredo=
nawa</a><br> <br> On Fri, January 1, 2010 8:30 pm, <a =
href=3D"mailto:fh@flatheadband.com">fh@flatheadband.com</a> wrote:<br> =
&gt; I see, I was thinking of upgrading from the 'rang due to sample =
rate and<br> &gt; routing/panning options. I'm not as concerned about =
recording quality (I<br> &gt; don't record my looping other than to =
capture the moment), this is for<br> &gt; live solo performance and I =
like simplicity. for 'in the box' looping and<br> &gt; recording I use =
software.<br> &gt; I've got a decent signal chain: taylor 314ce with a =
bagg's m1/padi<br> &gt; preamp, beta58 vocal mic, green bullet harmonica =
mic, marshall as50r<br> &gt; acoustic amp, 'rang and pedals in the loop =
so I can loop/effect vocals<br> &gt; and guitar...but the boomerang's =
best sampling rate is only 24k, 11.76k<br> &gt; freq max... so once I =
layer about 5-6 things it gets a little muddy with<br> &gt; no panning =
options. I compensate with some pedals and technique on guitar<br> &gt; =
and vocals, like singing in the green bullet for dynamics and<br> &gt; =
flavor...I'm adding a small 6ch mixer for more eq &amp;amp; panning<br> =
&gt; capabilities than the marshall, but it hasn't arrived yet...my loop =
out<br> &gt; of the rang will still be mono but I can separate it from =
the live<br> &gt; instruments and gain a little more clarity...<br> &gt; =
thanks for the info and happy new year to you as well...<br> &gt;<br> =
&gt; -------- Original Message --------<br> &gt; Subject: Re: New =
Loop<br> &gt; From: Todd Chambeau<br> &gt; Date: Fri, January 01, 2010 =
1:19 pm<br> &gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br> &gt;<br> &gt; Chris,<br> &gt; Glad you liked it. =
There was not much post-production, but I went directly<br> &gt; out of =
my Allen&amp;amp; Heath mixing board into Pro Tools. This way I got<br> =
&gt; away from the boxy sounding mic on the camcorder. Then when I mixed =
down<br> &gt; in Protools I added a touch of Eq at 7k and 2db worth of =
gain reduction<br> &gt; through a Manley Vari-Mu compressor. I guess =
some would say that is a<br> &gt; decent amount of "Post Production"The =
reverbish sound of the loop is from<br> &gt; the presets on the =
A&amp;amp;H Mixing board.The only non-live portion of the<br> &gt; =
looping, was the strat lead and one of the high harmony vocal parts, =
which<br> &gt; I did to cover up an off-key part. The Strat went =
directly into Protools,<br> &gt; where I added a hint of reverb, nothing =
else.Someone can correct me if I<br> &gt; am wrong, but I do not think =
the EDP will give you a "better quality "<br> &gt; sound. It really =
starts with the quality of instruments, then your<br> &gt; recording =
chain.The EDP probably has more options on it's looping<br> &gt; =
capability, but I have only scratched the surface with it and really =
just<br> &gt; mostly use the overdub feature to layer parts.<br> &gt; =
Let me know if you have any other questions.Happy New YearTodd<br> =
&gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt; On Jan 1, =
2010, at 12:43 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:fh@flatheadband.com">fh@flatheadband.com</a> wrote:I've =
been lurking<br> &gt; for a while as well, looping with a 'rang for a =
couple of years and am<br> &gt; working up to shooting a vid of my =
performances, your work is<br> &gt; inspiring...how much post work did =
you do to the track? if all that's<br> &gt; live, I think I might have =
to move past my boomerang if this is what an<br> &gt; edp sounds like. I =
play guitar, bass and sing and the low vocals really<br> &gt; sound =
clear...loved the track and I echo the comments on the track's<br> &gt; =
progression into chaos...nice.<br> &gt;<br> &gt; Chris<a target=3D"_blank"=
 href=3D"http://www.flatheadband.com">http://www.flatheadband.com</a><br> =
&gt; -------- Original Message --------<br> &gt; Subject: New Loop<br> =
&gt; From: Todd Chambeau<br> &gt; Date: Wed, December 30, 2009 12:02 =
pm<br> &gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt; Loopers,<br> &gt;<br> &gt; =
I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. =
I've<br> &gt; learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional =
questions. I<br> &gt; would also like to thank Luca from Italy for =
sending me that EDP manual.<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt; Here is loop I =
did after sorting through some old family video.<br> &gt; It is through =
my EDP.<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt; <a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY">http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3D7vEzb0TzvOY</a><br> &gt;<br> &gt; Thanks<br> &gt; Todd =
Chambeau<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> </div> =
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Hello Loopers! Steve Uccello here inviting you to a special house concert i=
n my very own home in Monterey.=A0
The show is TUESDAY JANUARY 12th 7PM at my home near=A0Del Monte Center...B=
ut=A0read on before we get=0A =A0bogged down with logistical details-=A0Tho=
ugh not a 'pure' looping event, ( I'm organizing & opening the show w/ my l=
ooping music) I feel some of you may be interested in this upcoming show I =
have organized at my home in Monterey, CA (USA), sorry to those of you who =
are far far away. Anyhow,=A0 I've booked two world class musicians who are =
on their way to the=A0NAMM=0A show=A0in LA, all the way out from Nashville.=
 =A0They are=A0Bryan Beller=A0and Kira Small. =A0
"Bonded together as both musical aces and life partners, singer/songwriter =
Kira Small (Peter Frampton,=A0Wynonna Judd,=A0Martina Mcbride) and bassist =
Bryan Beller (Steve Vai,=A0Mike Keneally,=A0Dweezil Zappa)=0Ashare a deeply=
 intimate musical connection with an even deeper story=0Abehind it. =A0Whil=
e an unlikely duo given their disparate musical=0Aexperiences, Kira's soari=
ng vocals and dexterous keyboards meet Bryan's=0Ainstinctive groove on the =
common ground of Kira's Soul/R&B-infused=0Asongs about love, lust. life."=
=A0You're=0Ajust not going to get a show of this quality in such an intimat=
e=0Asetting as this ANYWHERE else in town! =A0PLEASE show your support for=
=0Alive music (and independent musicians supporting each other) by making=
=0Athe effort to attend! =A0There's a meager $15 suggested donation, which=
=0Aincludes FREE refreshments (and for those of you who've hung at my=0Ahou=
se, you know no one hosts like the Uccellos!!)
-To hear some of Kira's music click=A0HERE=A0=A0-To hear some of Bryan's mu=
sic click=A0HERE. =A0Also I will be opening the show with a couple of tunes=
, to hear some of my own music, click=A0HERE.
Now for the details :)
RSVP to find out the exact location by replying to this email, or by callin=
g me directly at=A0831-801-4920=A0-Thanks and A very Happy New Year to all =
of you-let's make 2010 an amazing year for the=A0Monterey Bay music=A0scene=
!=A0Thanks, Steve Uccello=0A=0A=0A      
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mall;">Though not a 'pure' looping event, ( I'm organizing &amp; opening th=
e show w/ my looping music) I feel some of you may be interested in this up=
coming show I have organized at my home in Monterey, CA (USA), sorry to tho=
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usicians who are on their way to the&nbsp;<span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"=
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Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it already. We
still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)

But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians. Although
you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so West is East, no?

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill
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> Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any point
> on earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping) culture, so
> "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe? ;)
>
>  Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and
>> created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt 'coast' was
>> limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this community here in
>> the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and
>> join up and let's get a festival going in this neck of the woods!
>>
>>  --
> http://moinlabs.de
>
>


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Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it already. We =
still love you even tho you&#39;re from Europe. :-)<br><br>But yeah, actual=
ly, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians. Although you can keep g=
oing East from there and hit the West, so West is East, no?<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Stras=
chill <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com">moi=
nsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0=
pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any point o=
n earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping) culture, so=
 &quot;Eastern US&quot; and &quot;Eastern&quot; is synonymous.<br>
Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe? ;)=
<div class=3D"im"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and created=
 a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt &#39;coast&#39; was limiti=
ng, so it&#39;s now Eastern Loopers. =A0If you are in this community here i=
n the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below a=
nd join up and let&#39;s get a festival going in this neck of the woods!<br=
>

<br>
</blockquote>
-- <br>
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a><br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.warrensirota.com">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>NEW CD: Loops=
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Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough east we become west
and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for your note btw, more
later on that)...

seriously I am open to a name change of the group on FB, all ears here..

lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST,
http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal.  Movie footage we are going to play
to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price...

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:

> Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it already. We
> still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)
>
> But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians.
> Although you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so West is
> East, no?
>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill <
> moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any point
>> on earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping) culture, so
>> "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
>> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe?
>> ;)
>>
>>  Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and
>>> created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt 'coast' was
>>> limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this community here in
>>> the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and
>>> join up and let's get a festival going in this neck of the woods!
>>>
>>>  --
>> http://moinlabs.de
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Warren
> http://www.warrensirota.com
> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
>



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Warren that&#39;s exactly what I thought if we go far enough east we become=
 west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for your note btw, mo=
re later on that)...<br><br>seriously I am open to a name change of the gro=
up on FB, all ears here..<br>
<br>lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, <a href=3D"http://www.=
livestream.com/digitsignal">http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal</a>.=A0 M=
ovie footage we are going to play to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth wi=
th Vincent Price...<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirot=
a <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com">wsirota@ws=
designs.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
padding-left: 1ex;">
Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it already. We =
still love you even tho you&#39;re from Europe. :-)<br><br>But yeah, actual=
ly, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians. Although you can keep g=
oing East from there and hit the West, so West is East, no?<br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:4=
6 PM, Rainer Straschill <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@g=
ooglemail.com" target=3D"_blank">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8e=
x; padding-left: 1ex;">
Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any point o=
n earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping) culture, so=
 &quot;Eastern US&quot; and &quot;Eastern&quot; is synonymous.<br>
Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe? ;)=
<div><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and created=
 a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt &#39;coast&#39; was limiti=
ng, so it&#39;s now Eastern Loopers. =A0If you are in this community here i=
n the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below a=
nd join up and let&#39;s get a festival going in this neck of the woods!<br=
>


<br>
</blockquote>
-- <br>
</div><a href=3D"http://moinlabs.de" target=3D"_blank">http://moinlabs.de</=
a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div></div><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br clear=3D"all=
"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>NEW CD: Loops, Live &amp; Otw<br><=
a href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota</a><br>


</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an intros=
pective textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.my=
space.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoo=
dinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
<br>

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Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from the  
livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its  
11:01AM


On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:

> Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough east we  
> become west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for your  
> note btw, more later on that)...
>
> seriously I am open to a name change of the group on FB, all ears  
> here..
>
> lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal 
> .  Movie footage we are going to play to is fantastic, The Last Man  
> On Earth with Vincent Price...
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota  
> <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
> Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it  
> already. We still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)
>
> But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians.  
> Although you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so  
> West is East, no?
>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com 
> > wrote:
> Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any  
> point on earth farther east than New York with any traces of  
> (looping) culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of  
> Europe? ;)
>
> Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and  
> created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt 'coast' was  
> limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this community  
> here in the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the  
> link below and join up and let's get a festival going in this neck  
> of the woods!
>
> -- 
> http://moinlabs.de
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Warren
> http://www.warrensirota.com
> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
>
>
>
> -- 
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Not sure if it is too early, =
but I get an error message from the livestream site saying they could =
not find the page. Clock says its =
11:01AM<div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, =
Jim Goodin wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite">Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough =
east we become west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for =
your note btw, more later on that)...<br><br>seriously I am open to a =
name change of the group on FB, all ears here..<br> <br>lastly Dig It =
Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, <a =
href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal">http://www.livestream.com/d=
igitsignal</a>.&nbsp; Movie footage we are going to play to is =
fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price...<br> <br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com">wsirota@wsdesigns.com</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;"> Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it =
already. We still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)<br><br>But =
yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians. Although =
you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so West is East, =
no?<br> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Fri, Jan 1, =
2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> =
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Well done, very US-like point of view: there =
cannot possibly be any point on earth farther east than New York with =
any traces of (looping) culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is =
synonymous.<br> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the =
whole of Europe? ;)<div><br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Okay I have taken the challenge of our =
friends in the Northwest and created a Face Book group that I just =
renamed as I felt 'coast' was limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers. =
&nbsp;If you are in this community here in the Eastern US, either join =
FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and join up and let's get a =
festival going in this neck of the woods!<br> <br> </blockquote> -- <br> =
</div><a href=3D"http://moinlabs.de" =
target=3D"_blank">http://moinlabs.de</a><br> <br> =
</blockquote></div></div></div><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br =
clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>NEW CD: Loops, =
Live &amp; Otw<br><a href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota</a><br> =
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an =
introspective textural aural<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br=
>music links...<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><=
br><a =
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sic</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/chinapa=
intingmusic</a><br> <a =
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a =
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tal</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a =
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sic</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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hi chaps, i'm looking to swap hardware for software later on this year, so
i'm trying ot learn how to use mobius in bidule

i'm trying to get various plugins to sync to mobius so i'm selecting
"mobius" as the sync source and setting the sync option in the mobius track
i'm using as "out"....but no joy - any tips?

also....some plugins need the sync transport to "run" and sync...but can i
sync the sync transport to mobius?

i want mobius to be the master and control the tempo, so everything is
synced to a master track that i create.

any help would be greatly appreciated!

many thanks and happy new year!

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hi chaps, i&#39;m looking to swap hardware for software later on this year,=
 so i&#39;m trying ot learn how to use mobius in bidule<br><br>i&#39;m tryi=
ng to get various plugins to sync to mobius so i&#39;m selecting &quot;mobi=
us&quot; as the sync source and setting the sync option in the mobius track=
 i&#39;m using as &quot;out&quot;....but no joy - any tips?<br>
<br>also....some plugins need the sync transport to &quot;run&quot; and syn=
c...but can i sync the sync transport to mobius?<br><br>i want mobius to be=
 the master and control the tempo, so everything is synced to a master trac=
k that i create.<br>
<br>any help would be greatly appreciated!<br><br>many thanks and happy new=
 year!<br><br>sim<br>

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Hi Sim,

Here's a complete walk-though to achieve exactly that:
http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/album.php?albumid=3&pictureid=5

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com



On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> hi chaps, i'm looking to swap hardware for software later on this year, so
> i'm trying ot learn how to use mobius in bidule
>
> i'm trying to get various plugins to sync to mobius so i'm selecting
> "mobius" as the sync source and setting the sync option in the mobius track
> i'm using as "out"....but no joy - any tips?
>
> also....some plugins need the sync transport to "run" and sync...but can i
> sync the sync transport to mobius?
>
> i want mobius to be the master and control the tempo, so everything is
> synced to a master track that i create.
>
> any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> many thanks and happy new year!
>
> sim
>

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I wish I had seen that, the url is =
http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive. Archive will be up soon.

j
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jim Goodin=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:12 AM
  Subject: Re: Fwd: "East Coast Loopers" is now "Eastern Loopers"...


  Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough east we =
become west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for your =
note btw, more later on that)...

  seriously I am open to a name change of the group on FB, all ears =
here..

  lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, =
http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal.  Movie footage we are going to =
play to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price...


  On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> =
wrote:

    Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it =
already. We still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)

    But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians. =
Although you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so West is =
East, no?


    On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill =
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:

      Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be =
any point on earth farther east than New York with any traces of =
(looping) culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
      Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of =
Europe? ;)


        Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest =
and created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt 'coast' was =
limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this community =
here in the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the =
link below and join up and let's get a festival going in this neck of =
the woods!


      --=20

      http://moinlabs.de





    --=20
    Warren
    http://www.warrensirota.com
    NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
    http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota




  --=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wish I had seen that, the url is <A=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far =
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  we become west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for =
your note=20
  btw, more later on that)...<BR><BR>seriously I am open to a name =
change of the=20
  group on FB, all ears here..<BR><BR>lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 =
min at=20
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  =
href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal">http://www.livestream.com/=
digitsignal</A>.&nbsp;=20
  Movie footage we are going to play to is fantastic, The Last Man On =
Earth with=20
  Vincent Price...<BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota =
<SPAN=20
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  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
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    Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it already. =
We=20
    still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)<BR><BR>But yeah, =
actually,=20
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keep going=20
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limiting, so=20
        it's now Eastern Loopers. &nbsp;If you are in this community =
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Hullo Folks!

I was wondering if I could trouble anyone for an opinion on the Line-6
MKII Shortboard. I'm currently using a footswitch plugged into a Korg
PadKontrol to record loops and am looking to get something that will
free my hands up a little. I predominately work through Ableton Live
or Mainstage, and sometimes I use SooperLooper as a plugin. I'm on a
Mac.

I understand that the Line-6 only sends CC's rather than notes, will
this be a problem? I know the FCB1010 is popular but the handiness of
the Line-6's USB output and the included mapping software is making it
rather tempting.

I've also heard that Line-6 devices aren't working with Snow Leopard
and that the switches on the Shortboard are a little loud (which would
be a problem for acoustic/mic looping). Can anyone confirm any of
this?

Any experience with this controller would be much appreciated, or
general advice on any other controllers you think might be suitable.
(Has anyone seen/used these? http://younfx.com)

I run a ronroco, an electric guitar, a digital piano, acoustic guitar
and a mic through a mixer and then into a macbook.

Thanks for any help!

Louis

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Todd my apologies, that was my typo missing 'live' in the link, too little
sleep and rushing to get ready for the cast but thanks for trying.  As Jeff
indicated the archive recording will be up in a bit at
http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive.





On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net>wrote:

> Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from the livestream
> site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its 11:01AM
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:
>
> Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough east we become
> west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for your note btw, more
> later on that)...
>
> seriously I am open to a name change of the group on FB, all ears here..
>
> lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST,
> http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal.  Movie footage we are going to play
> to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price...
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>wrote:
>
>> Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it already. We
>> still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)
>>
>> But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians.
>> Although you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so West is
>> East, no?
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill <
>> moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any point
>>> on earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping) culture, so
>>> "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
>>> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe?
>>> ;)
>>>
>>>  Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and
>>>> created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt 'coast' was
>>>> limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this community here in
>>>> the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and
>>>> join up and let's get a festival going in this neck of the woods!
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>> http://moinlabs.de
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Warren
>> http://www.warrensirota.com
>> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>
>


-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Todd my apologies, that was my typo missing &#39;live&#39; in the link, too=
 little sleep and rushing to get ready for the cast but thanks for trying.=
=A0 As Jeff indicated the archive recording will be up in a bit at <a href=
=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive">http://www.livestream.com/di=
gitsignallive</a>.<br>
<br><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01=
 AM, Todd Chambeau <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcas=
t.net">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0p=
t 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style=3D"">Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message fro=
m the livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its 1=
1:01AM<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>O=
n Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Warren that&#39;s exactly what I thought if w=
e go far enough east we become west and say hello to the Walker brothers...=
 (thanks for your note btw, more later on that)...<br><br>seriously I am op=
en to a name change of the group on FB, all ears here..<br>
 <br>lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, <a href=3D"http://www=
.livestream.com/digitsignal" target=3D"_blank">http://www.livestream.com/di=
gitsignal</a>.=A0 Movie footage we are going to play to is fantastic, The L=
ast Man On Earth with Vincent Price...<br>
 <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Siro=
ta <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com" target=3D=
"_blank">wsirota@wsdesigns.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin=
: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
 Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it already. We=
 still love you even tho you&#39;re from Europe. :-)<br><br>But yeah, actua=
lly, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians. Although you can keep =
going East from there and hit the West, so West is East, no?<br>
 <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer=
 Straschill <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> </d=
iv><div>
<div></div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px=
 solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> =
Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any point o=
n earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping) culture, so=
 &quot;Eastern US&quot; and &quot;Eastern&quot; is synonymous.<br>
 Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe? ;=
)<div><br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px soli=
d rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Okay =
I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and created a Fa=
ce Book group that I just renamed as I felt &#39;coast&#39; was limiting, s=
o it&#39;s now Eastern Loopers. =A0If you are in this community here in the=
 Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and jo=
in up and let&#39;s get a festival going in this neck of the woods!<br>
 <br> </blockquote> -- <br> </div><a href=3D"http://moinlabs.de" target=3D"=
_blank">http://moinlabs.de</a><br> <br> </blockquote></div></div></div><fon=
t color=3D"#888888"><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrensirota.com</=
a><br>
NEW CD: Loops, Live &amp; Otw<br><a href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warren=
sirota" target=3D"_blank">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota</a><br> </f=
ont></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspec=
tive textural aural<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.co=
m/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic=
.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br> <a href=3D"http://ww=
w.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><=
br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.mys=
pace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaint=
ingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br> <a h=
ref=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank">www=
.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=
=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br> <br>video work/editing..=
.<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=3D"_blank">www.vim=
eo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http:=
//www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgood=
inmusic</a><br>
 <br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>=
<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>m=
usic links...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><b=
r><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/china=
paintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelect=
ro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mys=
pace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/j=
imgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networkin=
g...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>

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Per,

That link brings up a "Must be registered to view" message...and
registration has been disabled by the admin, according to the website.
How are we supposed to see it?

Nappy Yew Hear!

Dennis

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sim,
>
> Here's a complete walk-though to achieve exactly that:
> http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/album.php?albumid=3&pictureid=5
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Simeon Harris
> <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> hi chaps, i'm looking to swap hardware for software later on this year, so
>> i'm trying ot learn how to use mobius in bidule
>>
>> i'm trying to get various plugins to sync to mobius so i'm selecting
>> "mobius" as the sync source and setting the sync option in the mobius track
>> i'm using as "out"....but no joy - any tips?
>>
>> also....some plugins need the sync transport to "run" and sync...but can i
>> sync the sync transport to mobius?
>>
>> i want mobius to be the master and control the tempo, so everything is
>> synced to a master track that i create.
>>
>> any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> many thanks and happy new year!
>>
>> sim
>>
>
>



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Per,

Any chance of posting that info to the ZoneMobius group (Yahoo-based)?

Best,

Dennis

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sim,
>
> Here's a complete walk-though to achieve exactly that:
> http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/album.php?albumid=3&pictureid=5
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Simeon Harris
> <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> hi chaps, i'm looking to swap hardware for software later on this year, so
>> i'm trying ot learn how to use mobius in bidule
>>
>> i'm trying to get various plugins to sync to mobius so i'm selecting
>> "mobius" as the sync source and setting the sync option in the mobius track
>> i'm using as "out"....but no joy - any tips?
>>
>> also....some plugins need the sync transport to "run" and sync...but can i
>> sync the sync transport to mobius?
>>
>> i want mobius to be the master and control the tempo, so everything is
>> synced to a master track that i create.
>>
>> any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> many thanks and happy new year!
>>
>> sim
>>
>
>



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On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> That link brings up a "Must be registered to view" message...and
> registration has been disabled by the admin, according to the website.
> How are we supposed to see it?

Oh, you are right! I just remembered that due to the large amount of
spam Jeff was forced to require a mail request to become a member at
the Mobius forum.

Luckily I was at the laptop right now and could mirror that lesson on
my own homepage:
http://www.perboysen.com/archives/542

Per ;-)

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Per,

Thanks! Just saw the link on FaceBork, too! Guess I better send Jeff
an email, too, and get on the Circular forum...I'm really enjoying
using bidule!

Best,

Dennis


On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> That link brings up a "Must be registered to view" message...and
>> registration has been disabled by the admin, according to the website.
>> How are we supposed to see it?
>
> Oh, you are right! I just remembered that due to the large amount of
> spam Jeff was forced to require a mail request to become a member at
> the Mobius forum.
>
> Luckily I was at the laptop right now and could mirror that lesson on
> my own homepage:
> http://www.perboysen.com/archives/542
>
> Per ;-)
>
>



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brilliant per, thank you!

> Luckily I was at the laptop right now and could mirror that lesson on
> > my own homepage:
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brilliant per, thank you!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div class="h5">
&gt; Luckily I was at the laptop right now and could mirror that lesson on<br>
&gt; my own homepage:<br>
&gt; <a href="http://www.perboysen.com/archives/542" target="_blank">http://www.perboysen.com/archives/542</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Per ;-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br><br></div></div></blockquote></div>

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Yes, upgraded all my computers.. I guess you have to double check but =
it's pretty more an update then really an upgrade and a cleanup. Pretty =
safe and your computer will run much faster (and so will Ableton for =
example)...

Cheers,

Reyn

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On Jan 1, 2010, at 8:05 AM, doc rossi wrote:

> Has anyone started using Snow Leopard yet? Any feedback?
>=20
> Happy 2010
>=20
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Jim,

No problem. I just listened to some of the archive, very good. Are you  
4 able to see each other via webcam? Does this webcast format have the  
ability to show a split screen of the four of you playing  
individually? I liked the visuals, but I would love to see a flash of  
who is doing what every couple of minutes. Not complaining, just  
wondering if that is possible.
Sonically, I loved it.


Todd






On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

> Todd my apologies, that was my typo missing 'live' in the link, too  
> little sleep and rushing to get ready for the cast but thanks for  
> trying.  As Jeff indicated the archive recording will be up in a bit  
> at http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Todd Chambeau  
> <tchambeau@comcast.net> wrote:
> Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from the  
> livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its  
> 11:01AM
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:
>
>> Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough east we  
>> become west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for  
>> your note btw, more later on that)...
>>
>> seriously I am open to a name change of the group on FB, all ears  
>> here..
>>
>> lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal 
>> .  Movie footage we are going to play to is fantastic, The Last Man  
>> On Earth with Vincent Price...
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota  
>> <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
>> Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it  
>> already. We still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)
>>
>> But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians.  
>> Although you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so  
>> West is East, no?
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com 
>> > wrote:
>> Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any  
>> point on earth farther east than New York with any traces of  
>> (looping) culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
>> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of  
>> Europe? ;)
>>
>> Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and  
>> created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt 'coast' was  
>> limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this  
>> community here in the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in  
>> FB go to the link below and join up and let's get a festival going  
>> in this neck of the woods!
>>
>> -- 
>> http://moinlabs.de
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Warren
>> http://www.warrensirota.com
>> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
>> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>>
>> music links...
>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
>> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>> www.myspace.com/jindream
>> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>> video work/editing...
>> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>>
>> social networking...
>> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Jim,<div><br></div><div>No =
problem. I just listened to some of the archive, very good. Are you 4 =
able to see each other via webcam? Does this webcast format have the =
ability to show a split screen of the four of you playing individually? =
I liked the visuals, but I would love to see a flash of who is doing =
what every couple of minutes. Not complaining, just wondering if that is =
possible.</div><div>Sonically, I loved =
it.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Todd</div><div><br></div><div>=
<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>=
On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Todd my =
apologies, that was my typo missing 'live' in the link, too little sleep =
and rushing to get ready for the cast but thanks for trying.&nbsp; As =
Jeff indicated the archive recording will be up in a bit at <a =
href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive">http://www.livestream.c=
om/digitsignallive</a>.<br> <br><br><br><br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Todd Chambeau =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;"> <div style=3D"">Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error =
message from the livestream site saying they could not find the page. =
Clock says its 11:01AM<div><div></div><div =
class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 =
AM, Jim Goodin wrote:</div> <br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Warren that's =
exactly what I thought if we go far enough east we become west and say =
hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for your note btw, more later on =
that)...<br><br>seriously I am open to a name change of the group on FB, =
all ears here..<br> <br>lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, =
<a href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal</a>.&nbsp; Movie =
footage we are going to play to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with =
Vincent Price...<br> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 =
at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com" =
target=3D"_blank">wsirota@wsdesigns.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;"> Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it =
already. We still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)<br><br>But =
yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians. Although =
you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so West is East, =
no?<br> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 =
PM, Rainer Straschill <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> =
</div><div> <div></div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Well done, very US-like point of view: there =
cannot possibly be any point on earth farther east than New York with =
any traces of (looping) culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is =
synonymous.<br> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the =
whole of Europe? ;)<div><br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Okay I have taken the challenge of our =
friends in the Northwest and created a Face Book group that I just =
renamed as I felt 'coast' was limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers. =
&nbsp;If you are in this community here in the Eastern US, either join =
FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and join up and let's get a =
festival going in this neck of the woods!<br> <br> </blockquote> -- <br> =
</div><a href=3D"http://moinlabs.de" =
target=3D"_blank">http://moinlabs.de</a><br> <br> =
</blockquote></div></div></div><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br =
clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br> NEW CD: Loops, =
Live &amp; Otw<br><a href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota</a><br> =
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an =
introspective textural aural<br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>music =
links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br> <br>video =
work/editing...<br> <a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" =
target=3D"_blank">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social =
networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br> =
<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>=
<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural =
aural<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br=
>music links...<br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><=
br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/chinapa=
intingmusic</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jim=
goodinviolinelectro</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br> =
<a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigi=
tal</a><br><br>social networking...<br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic</a><br><br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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Veddy nice!  I commented there about how I hadn't remembered a music =
soundtrack to "The Last Man on Earth", and wondered about your music on =
top of it with vocals.. But nice archive.


From: Jim Goodin=20
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:59 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: "East Coast Loopers" is now "Eastern Loopers"...


Todd my apologies, that was my typo missing 'live' in the link, too =
little sleep and rushing to get ready for the cast but thanks for =
trying.  As Jeff indicated the archive recording will be up in a bit at =
http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive.






On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net> =
wrote:

  Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from the =
livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its =
11:01AM=20




  On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:


    Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough east we =
become west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for your =
note btw, more later on that)...

    seriously I am open to a name change of the group on FB, all ears =
here..

    lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, =
http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal.  Movie footage we are going to =
play to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price...


    On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota =
<wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:

      Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it =
already. We still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)

      But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means =
Asians. Although you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so =
West is East, no?


      On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill =
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:

        Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be =
any point on earth farther east than New York with any traces of =
(looping) culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
        Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of =
Europe? ;)=20


          Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the =
Northwest and created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt =
'coast' was limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this =
community here in the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go =
to the link below and join up and let's get a festival going in this =
neck of the woods!


        --=20

        http://moinlabs.de





      --=20
      Warren
      http://www.warrensirota.com
      NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
      http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota




    --=20
    ReUse, an introspective textural aural
    www.myspace.com/CtReUse

    music links...
    www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
    www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
    www.myspace.com/jindream
    www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

    video work/editing...
    www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

    social networking...
    www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic







--=20
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS">Veddy nice!&nbsp; I commented =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:59 PM</DIV>
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rs-delight.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: "East Coast Loopers" is now "Eastern=20
Loopers"...</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Todd my apologies, that was my typo missing 'live' in the =
link,=20
too little sleep and rushing to get ready for the cast but thanks for=20
trying.&nbsp; As Jeff indicated the archive recording will be up in a =
bit at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive">http://www.livestream.=
com/digitsignallive</A>.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Todd Chambeau =
<SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net">tchambeau@comcast.net</A>&gt;</SPAN=
>=20
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
class=3Dgmail_quote>
  <DIV>Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from the=20
  livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its =
11:01AM=20
  <DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3Dh5>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:</DIV><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">Warren that's exactly what I thought if we =
go far=20
    enough east we become west and say hello to the Walker brothers... =
(thanks=20
    for your note btw, more later on that)...<BR><BR>seriously I am open =
to a=20
    name change of the group on FB, all ears here..<BR><BR>lastly Dig It =
Signal,=20
    live in45 min at 11am EST, <A =
href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal"=20
    target=3D_blank>http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal</A>.&nbsp; =
Movie footage=20
    we are going to play to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with =
Vincent=20
    Price...<BR><BR>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren =
Sirota <SPAN=20
    dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com"=20
    target=3D_blank>wsirota@wsdesigns.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt =
0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
    class=3Dgmail_quote>Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. =
just=20
      accept it already. We still love you even tho you're from Europe.=20
      :-)<BR><BR>But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively =
means=20
      Asians. Although you can keep going East from there and hit the =
West, so=20
      West is East, no?<BR><BR>
      <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
      <DIV>On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill <SPAN=20
      dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com"=20
      target=3D_blank>moinsound@googlemail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> =
wrote:<BR></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
      style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt =
0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
      class=3Dgmail_quote>Well done, very US-like point of view: there =
cannot=20
        possibly be any point on earth farther east than New York with =
any=20
        traces of (looping) culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is=20
        synonymous.<BR>Or would you accept people from farther =
east...like the=20
        whole of Europe? ;)=20
        <DIV><BR>
        <BLOCKQUOTE=20
        style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt =
0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
        class=3Dgmail_quote>Okay I have taken the challenge of our =
friends in=20
          the Northwest and created a Face Book group that I just =
renamed as I=20
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Todd thanks so much for the note and watching the playback back.  We
currently are 'not on camera' partly as a past edict to a preferred criteria
set in motion by the recent Virtual Sound and Vision festival, which was to
try to do something more than 'just musicians playing in front of a webcam'
plus currently two of our gathering don't as yet have webcams or have worked
with them but that's coming though I think a mix of the archive video and
some live is the goal.  The last two films have been great fun to work
with.  So secondary answer no  we are not seeing each other we are merely as
Chinapainting partner Daryl once said 'reacting to each others live sounds
through speakers and headphones and reacting back'.  NinJam is a wonderful
mysterious challenging exciting turf but probably responsible for some of my
most creative productive music these last few years.

Thanks again for your words.

Jim

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net> wrote:

> Jim,
>
> No problem. I just listened to some of the archive, very good. Are you 4
> able to see each other via webcam? Does this webcast format have the ability
> to show a split screen of the four of you playing individually? I liked the
> visuals, but I would love to see a flash of who is doing what every couple
> of minutes. Not complaining, just wondering if that is possible.
> Sonically, I loved it.
>
>
> Todd
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:
>
> Todd my apologies, that was my typo missing 'live' in the link, too little
> sleep and rushing to get ready for the cast but thanks for trying.  As Jeff
> indicated the archive recording will be up in a bit at
> http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from the
>> livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its 11:01AM
>>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:
>>
>> Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough east we become
>> west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for your note btw, more
>> later on that)...
>>
>> seriously I am open to a name change of the group on FB, all ears here..
>>
>> lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST,
>> http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal.  Movie footage we are going to
>> play to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price...
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it already.
>>> We still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)
>>>
>>> But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians.
>>> Although you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so West is
>>> East, no?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill <
>>> moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any
>>>> point on earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping)
>>>> culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
>>>> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe?
>>>> ;)
>>>>
>>>>  Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and
>>>>> created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt 'coast' was
>>>>> limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this community here in
>>>>> the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and
>>>>> join up and let's get a festival going in this neck of the woods!
>>>>>
>>>>>  --
>>>> http://moinlabs.de
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Warren
>>> http://www.warrensirota.com
>>> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
>>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
>> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>>
>> music links...
>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
>> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>> www.myspace.com/jindream
>> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>> video work/editing...
>> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>>
>> social networking...
>> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>
>


-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Todd thanks so much for the note and watching the playback back.=A0 We curr=
ently are &#39;not on camera&#39; partly as a past edict to a preferred cri=
teria set in motion by the recent Virtual Sound and Vision festival, which =
was to try to do something more than &#39;just musicians playing in front o=
f a webcam&#39; plus currently two of our gathering don&#39;t as yet have w=
ebcams or have worked with them but that&#39;s coming though I think a mix =
of the archive video and some live is the goal.=A0 The last two films have =
been great fun to work with.=A0 So secondary answer no=A0 we are not seeing=
 each other we are merely as Chinapainting partner Daryl once said &#39;rea=
cting to each others live sounds through speakers and headphones and reacti=
ng back&#39;.=A0 NinJam is a wonderful mysterious challenging exciting turf=
 but probably responsible for some of my most creative productive music the=
se last few years.<br>
<br>Thanks again for your words.<br><br>Jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Todd Chambeau <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"">J=
im,<div><br></div><div>No problem. I just listened to some of the archive, =
very good. Are you 4 able to see each other via webcam? Does this webcast f=
ormat have the ability to show a split screen of the four of you playing in=
dividually? I liked the visuals, but I would love to see a flash of who is =
doing what every couple of minutes. Not complaining, just wondering if that=
 is possible.</div>
<div>Sonically, I loved it.</div><div><br></div><font color=3D"#888888"><di=
v><br></div><div>Todd</div></font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div><b=
r></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b=
r>
<div><div>On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:</div><br><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite">Todd my apologies, that was my typo missing &#39;live&#39;=
 in the link, too little sleep and rushing to get ready for the cast but th=
anks for trying.=A0 As Jeff indicated the archive recording will be up in a=
 bit at <a href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive</a>.<br>
 <br><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:0=
1 AM, Todd Chambeau <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comca=
st.net" target=3D"_blank">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 20=
4, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
 <div>Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from the live=
stream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its 11:01AM<div=
><div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12=
 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:</div>
 <br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Warren that&#39;s exactly what I thought if =
we go far enough east we become west and say hello to the Walker brothers..=
. (thanks for your note btw, more later on that)...<br><br>seriously I am o=
pen to a name change of the group on FB, all ears here..<br>
 <br>lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, <a href=3D"http://www=
.livestream.com/digitsignal" target=3D"_blank">http://www.livestream.com/di=
gitsignal</a>.=A0 Movie footage we are going to play to is fantastic, The L=
ast Man On Earth with Vincent Price...<br>
 <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Siro=
ta <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com" target=3D=
"_blank">wsirota@wsdesigns.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin=
: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
 Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it already. We=
 still love you even tho you&#39;re from Europe. :-)<br><br>But yeah, actua=
lly, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians. Although you can keep =
going East from there and hit the West, so West is East, no?<br>
 <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer=
 Straschill <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> </d=
iv><div>
 <div></div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1p=
x solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">=
 Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any point =
on earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping) culture, s=
o &quot;Eastern US&quot; and &quot;Eastern&quot; is synonymous.<br>
 Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe? ;=
)<div><br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px soli=
d rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Okay =
I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and created a Fa=
ce Book group that I just renamed as I felt &#39;coast&#39; was limiting, s=
o it&#39;s now Eastern Loopers. =A0If you are in this community here in the=
 Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and jo=
in up and let&#39;s get a festival going in this neck of the woods!<br>
 <br> </blockquote> -- <br> </div><a href=3D"http://moinlabs.de" target=3D"=
_blank">http://moinlabs.de</a><br> <br> </blockquote></div></div></div><fon=
t color=3D"#888888"><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrensirota.com</=
a><br>
 NEW CD: Loops, Live &amp; Otw<br><a href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warre=
nsirota" target=3D"_blank">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota</a><br> </=
font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspe=
ctive textural aural<br>
 <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusi=
c.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br> <a href=3D"http://w=
ww.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a>=
<br>
 <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.my=
space.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapain=
tingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank">ww=
w.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
 <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.=
com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" targe=
t=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br> <br>video work/editing.=
..<br>
 <a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=3D"_blank">www.vi=
meo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http=
://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoo=
dinmusic</a><br>
 <br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>=
<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/Ct=
ReUse</a><br>
<br>music links...<br> <a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" target=3D"=
_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmu=
sic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgo=
odinmusic</a><br>
 <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" target=3D"_blank">ww=
w.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinele=
ctro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br> <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" targe=
t=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing..=
.<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=3D"_blank">www.vim=
eo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br> <a href=3D"http=
://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoo=
dinmusic</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><=
br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>mu=
sic links...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><b=
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music</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/j=
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Stephen thanks very much for catching us and for your kind words.  That was
such a great film, I watched it back last night which though I couldn't see
it this morning, the mental image stayed with me as we were playing.
Vincent Price was amazing!  Thanks again for catching us.

Jim

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>wrote:

>  Veddy nice!  I commented there about how I hadn't remembered a music
> soundtrack to "The Last Man on Earth", and wondered about your music on top
> of it with vocals.. But nice archive.
>
>  *From:* Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:59 PM
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Subject:* Re: "East Coast Loopers" is now "Eastern Loopers"...
>
> Todd my apologies, that was my typo missing 'live' in the link, too little
> sleep and rushing to get ready for the cast but thanks for trying.  As Jeff
> indicated the archive recording will be up in a bit at
> http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from the
>> livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its 11:01AM
>>
>>
>>  On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:
>>
>> Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough east we become
>> west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for your note btw, more
>> later on that)...
>>
>> seriously I am open to a name change of the group on FB, all ears here..
>>
>> lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST,
>> http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal.  Movie footage we are going to
>> play to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price...
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it already.
>>> We still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)
>>>
>>> But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians.
>>> Although you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so West is
>>> East, no?
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill <
>>> moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be any
>>>> point on earth farther east than New York with any traces of (looping)
>>>> culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
>>>> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of Europe?
>>>> ;)
>>>>
>>>> Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest and
>>>>> created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt 'coast' was
>>>>> limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this community here in
>>>>> the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and
>>>>> join up and let's get a festival going in this neck of the woods!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> http://moinlabs.de
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Warren
>>> http://www.warrensirota.com
>>> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
>>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
>> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>>
>> music links...
>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
>> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>> www.myspace.com/jindream
>> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>> video work/editing...
>> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>>
>> social networking...
>> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>


-- 
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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

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social networking...
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Stephen thanks very much for catching us and for your kind words.=A0 That w=
as such a great film, I watched it back last night which though I couldn&#3=
9;t see it this morning, the mental image stayed with me as we were playing=
.=A0 Vincent Price was amazing!=A0 Thanks again for catching us.<br>
<br>Jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:59 PM, S=
tephen Goodman <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight=
.net">spgoodman@earthlight.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin=
: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">




<div style=3D"padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 15px;" =
name=3D"Compose message area">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Trebuchet MS">Veddy nice!=A0 I commented ther=
e about=20
how I hadn&#39;t remembered a music soundtrack to &quot;The Last Man on Ear=
th&quot;, and=20
wondered about your music on top of it with vocals.. But nice=20
archive.</font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal=
; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adju=
st: none; font-stretch: normal;">
<div><br></div>
<div style=3D"background: rgb(245, 245, 245) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz=
-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-=
background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:jimg=
oodinmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Jim Goodin</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:59 PM</div><div class=3D"im">
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" href=3D"ma=
ilto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight=
@loopers-delight.com</a>=20
</div>
</div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: &quot;East Coast Loopers&quot; is now &quot;=
Eastern=20
Loopers&quot;...</div></div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<div><br></div>Todd my apologies, that was my typo missing &#39;live&#39; i=
n the link,=20
too little sleep and rushing to get ready for the cast but thanks for=20
trying.=A0 As Jeff indicated the archive recording will be up in a bit at <=
a href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive</a>.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Todd Chambeau <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net" target=3D"_bl=
ank">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span>=20
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt=
 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
  <div>Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from the=20
  livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its 11:01=
AM=20
  <div>
  <div></div>
  <div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><br>
  <div>
  <div>On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:</div><br>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">Warren that&#39;s exactly what I thought if we =
go far=20
    enough east we become west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (tha=
nks=20
    for your note btw, more later on that)...<br><br>seriously I am open to=
 a=20
    name change of the group on FB, all ears here..<br><br>lastly Dig It Si=
gnal,=20
    live in45 min at 11am EST, <a href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsi=
gnal" target=3D"_blank">http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal</a>.=A0 Movie=
 footage=20
    we are going to play to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with Vincen=
t=20
    Price...<br><br>
    <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirot=
a <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com" target=3D"=
_blank">wsirota@wsdesigns.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
    <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">Oh Rainer, al=
l Americans are americentric pigs. just=20
      accept it already. We still love you even tho you&#39;re from Europe.=
=20
      :-)<br><br>But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively mean=
s=20
      Asians. Although you can keep going East from there and hit the West,=
 so=20
      West is East, no?<br><br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
      <div>On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">moins=
ound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div>
      <div>
      <div></div>
      <div>
      <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margi=
n: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">Well done, =
very US-like point of view: there cannot=20
        possibly be any point on earth farther east than New York with any=
=20
        traces of (looping) culture, so &quot;Eastern US&quot; and &quot;Ea=
stern&quot; is=20
        synonymous.<br>Or would you accept people from farther east...like =
the=20
        whole of Europe? ;)=20
        <div><br>
        <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); mar=
gin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">Okay I ha=
ve taken the challenge of our friends in=20
          the Northwest and created a Face Book group that I just renamed a=
s I=20
          felt &#39;coast&#39; was limiting, so it&#39;s now Eastern Looper=
s. =A0If you=20
          are in this community here in the Eastern US, either join FB or i=
f you=20
          are in FB go to the link below and join up and let&#39;s get a fe=
stival=20
          going in this neck of the woods!<br><br></blockquote>-- <br></div=
><a href=3D"http://moinlabs.de" target=3D"_blank">http://moinlabs.de</a><br=
><br></blockquote></div></div></div><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br clear=
=3D"all">
<br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>NEW CD: Loops, Live &amp;=20
      Otw<br><a href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota</a><br></font></blockquote></di=
v><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural<b=
r>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.co=
m/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic=
.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www=
.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><b=
r>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.mys=
pace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaint=
ingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank">www.=
myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=
=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>video=20
    work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social=20
    networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" targ=
et=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br></blockquote></div>=
<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>--=
 <br>
ReUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com=
/CtReUse" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>music=20
links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www=
.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mys=
pace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</=
a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/ji=
mgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelec=
tro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=
=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>video=20
work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=
=3D"_blank">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social=20
networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=
=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.c=
om/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusi=
c.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
<br>

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Wow. Even though I asked, I have to admit that I at least thought you  
guys were viewing each other. Very impressive that you were not. I  
could see taking the visuals out with each other would not only  
encourage, but FORCE you to listen and respond to each other musically.
Outstanding.






On Jan 3, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

> Todd thanks so much for the note and watching the playback back.  We  
> currently are 'not on camera' partly as a past edict to a preferred  
> criteria set in motion by the recent Virtual Sound and Vision  
> festival, which was to try to do something more than 'just musicians  
> playing in front of a webcam' plus currently two of our gathering  
> don't as yet have webcams or have worked with them but that's coming  
> though I think a mix of the archive video and some live is the  
> goal.  The last two films have been great fun to work with.  So  
> secondary answer no  we are not seeing each other we are merely as  
> Chinapainting partner Daryl once said 'reacting to each others live  
> sounds through speakers and headphones and reacting back'.  NinJam  
> is a wonderful mysterious challenging exciting turf but probably  
> responsible for some of my most creative productive music these last  
> few years.
>
> Thanks again for your words.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Todd Chambeau  
> <tchambeau@comcast.net> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> No problem. I just listened to some of the archive, very good. Are  
> you 4 able to see each other via webcam? Does this webcast format  
> have the ability to show a split screen of the four of you playing  
> individually? I liked the visuals, but I would love to see a flash  
> of who is doing what every couple of minutes. Not complaining, just  
> wondering if that is possible.
> Sonically, I loved it.
>
>
> Todd
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:
>
>> Todd my apologies, that was my typo missing 'live' in the link, too  
>> little sleep and rushing to get ready for the cast but thanks for  
>> trying.  As Jeff indicated the archive recording will be up in a  
>> bit at http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Todd Chambeau  
>> <tchambeau@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from the  
>> livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its  
>> 11:01AM
>>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:
>>
>>> Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough east we  
>>> become west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for  
>>> your note btw, more later on that)...
>>>
>>> seriously I am open to a name change of the group on FB, all ears  
>>> here..
>>>
>>> lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal 
>>> .  Movie footage we are going to play to is fantastic, The Last  
>>> Man On Earth with Vincent Price...
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota  
>>> <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
>>> Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it  
>>> already. We still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)
>>>
>>> But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means  
>>> Asians. Although you can keep going East from there and hit the  
>>> West, so West is East, no?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com 
>>> > wrote:
>>> Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot possibly be  
>>> any point on earth farther east than New York with any traces of  
>>> (looping) culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is synonymous.
>>> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the whole of  
>>> Europe? ;)
>>>
>>> Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the Northwest  
>>> and created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt  
>>> 'coast' was limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in  
>>> this community here in the Eastern US, either join FB or if you  
>>> are in FB go to the link below and join up and let's get a  
>>> festival going in this neck of the woods!
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> http://moinlabs.de
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Warren
>>> http://www.warrensirota.com
>>> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
>>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
>>> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>>>
>>> music links...
>>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
>>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>>> www.myspace.com/jindream
>>> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>>
>>> video work/editing...
>>> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>>>
>>> social networking...
>>> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
>> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>>
>> music links...
>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
>> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>> www.myspace.com/jindream
>> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>> video work/editing...
>> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>>
>> social networking...
>> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Wow. Even though I asked, I =
have to admit that I at least thought you guys were viewing each other. =
Very impressive that you were not. I could see taking the visuals out =
with each other would not only encourage, but FORCE you to listen and =
respond to each other =
musically.<div>Outstanding.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div>=
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan =
3, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Todd =
thanks so much for the note and watching the playback back.&nbsp; We =
currently are 'not on camera' partly as a past edict to a preferred =
criteria set in motion by the recent Virtual Sound and Vision festival, =
which was to try to do something more than 'just musicians playing in =
front of a webcam' plus currently two of our gathering don't as yet have =
webcams or have worked with them but that's coming though I think a mix =
of the archive video and some live is the goal.&nbsp; The last two films =
have been great fun to work with.&nbsp; So secondary answer no&nbsp; we =
are not seeing each other we are merely as Chinapainting partner Daryl =
once said 'reacting to each others live sounds through speakers and =
headphones and reacting back'.&nbsp; NinJam is a wonderful mysterious =
challenging exciting turf but probably responsible for some of my most =
creative productive music these last few years.<br> <br>Thanks again for =
your words.<br><br>Jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, =
2010 at 5:46 PM, Todd Chambeau <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;"><div style=3D"">Jim,<div><br></div><div>No problem. I just =
listened to some of the archive, very good. Are you 4 able to see each =
other via webcam? Does this webcast format have the ability to show a =
split screen of the four of you playing individually? I liked the =
visuals, but I would love to see a flash of who is doing what every =
couple of minutes. Not complaining, just wondering if that is =
possible.</div> <div>Sonically, I loved it.</div><div><br></div><font =
color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Todd</div></font><div><div></div><di=
v =
class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div><div><br> <div><div>On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Jim =
Goodin wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Todd my apologies, that =
was my typo missing 'live' in the link, too little sleep and rushing to =
get ready for the cast but thanks for trying.&nbsp; As Jeff indicated =
the archive recording will be up in a bit at <a =
href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive</a>.<br> =
<br><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at =
11:01 AM, Todd Chambeau <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net" =
target=3D"_blank">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;"> <div>Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from =
the livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its =
11:01AM<div><div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 3, =
2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:</div> <br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough =
east we become west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for =
your note btw, more later on that)...<br><br>seriously I am open to a =
name change of the group on FB, all ears here..<br> <br>lastly Dig It =
Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, <a =
href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal</a>.&nbsp; Movie =
footage we are going to play to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with =
Vincent Price...<br> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 =
at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com" =
target=3D"_blank">wsirota@wsdesigns.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;"> Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept it =
already. We still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)<br><br>But =
yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means Asians. Although =
you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so West is East, =
no?<br> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 =
PM, Rainer Straschill <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> =
</div><div> <div></div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Well done, very US-like point of view: there =
cannot possibly be any point on earth farther east than New York with =
any traces of (looping) culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is =
synonymous.<br> Or would you accept people from farther east...like the =
whole of Europe? ;)<div><br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Okay I have taken the challenge of our =
friends in the Northwest and created a Face Book group that I just =
renamed as I felt 'coast' was limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers. =
&nbsp;If you are in this community here in the Eastern US, either join =
FB or if you are in FB go to the link below and join up and let's get a =
festival going in this neck of the woods!<br> <br> </blockquote> -- <br> =
</div><a href=3D"http://moinlabs.de" =
target=3D"_blank">http://moinlabs.de</a><br> <br> =
</blockquote></div></div></div><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br =
clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br> NEW CD: Loops, =
Live &amp; Otw<br><a href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota</a><br> =
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an =
introspective textural aural<br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>music =
links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br> <br>video =
work/editing...<br> <a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" =
target=3D"_blank">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social =
networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br> =
<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>=
<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural =
aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br> <br>music links...<br> =
<a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>video =
work/editing...<br> <a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" =
target=3D"_blank">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social =
networking...<br> <a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br> =
<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>=
<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural =
aural<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br=
>music links...<br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><=
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It's not that long ago that all one had was Ninjam, is it?


From: Todd Chambeau=20
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:29 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: "East Coast Loopers" is now "Eastern Loopers"...


Wow. Even though I asked, I have to admit that I at least thought you =
guys were viewing each other. Very impressive that you were not. I could =
see taking the visuals out with each other would not only encourage, but =
FORCE you to listen and respond to each other musically.=20
Outstanding.=20












On Jan 3, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:


  Todd thanks so much for the note and watching the playback back.  We =
currently are 'not on camera' partly as a past edict to a preferred =
criteria set in motion by the recent Virtual Sound and Vision festival, =
which was to try to do something more than 'just musicians playing in =
front of a webcam' plus currently two of our gathering don't as yet have =
webcams or have worked with them but that's coming though I think a mix =
of the archive video and some live is the goal.  The last two films have =
been great fun to work with.  So secondary answer no  we are not seeing =
each other we are merely as Chinapainting partner Daryl once said =
'reacting to each others live sounds through speakers and headphones and =
reacting back'.  NinJam is a wonderful mysterious challenging exciting =
turf but probably responsible for some of my most creative productive =
music these last few years.

  Thanks again for your words.

  Jim


  On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net> =
wrote:

    Jim,=20


    No problem. I just listened to some of the archive, very good. Are =
you 4 able to see each other via webcam? Does this webcast format have =
the ability to show a split screen of the four of you playing =
individually? I liked the visuals, but I would love to see a flash of =
who is doing what every couple of minutes. Not complaining, just =
wondering if that is possible.
    Sonically, I loved it.




    Todd












    On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:


      Todd my apologies, that was my typo missing 'live' in the link, =
too little sleep and rushing to get ready for the cast but thanks for =
trying.  As Jeff indicated the archive recording will be up in a bit at =
http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive.






      On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Todd Chambeau =
<tchambeau@comcast.net> wrote:

        Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message from the =
livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says its =
11:01AM=20




        On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:


          Warren that's exactly what I thought if we go far enough east =
we become west and say hello to the Walker brothers... (thanks for your =
note btw, more later on that)...

          seriously I am open to a name change of the group on FB, all =
ears here..

          lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, =
http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal.  Movie footage we are going to =
play to is fantastic, The Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price...


          On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Warren Sirota =
<wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:

            Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric pigs. just accept =
it already. We still love you even tho you're from Europe. :-)

            But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me intuitively means =
Asians. Although you can keep going East from there and hit the West, so =
West is East, no?


            On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill =
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:

              Well done, very US-like point of view: there cannot =
possibly be any point on earth farther east than New York with any =
traces of (looping) culture, so "Eastern US" and "Eastern" is =
synonymous.
              Or would you accept people from farther east...like the =
whole of Europe? ;)=20


                Okay I have taken the challenge of our friends in the =
Northwest and created a Face Book group that I just renamed as I felt =
'coast' was limiting, so it's now Eastern Loopers.  If you are in this =
community here in the Eastern US, either join FB or if you are in FB go =
to the link below and join up and let's get a festival going in this =
neck of the woods!


              --=20

              http://moinlabs.de





            --=20
            Warren
            http://www.warrensirota.com
            NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
            http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota




          --=20
          ReUse, an introspective textural aural
          www.myspace.com/CtReUse

          music links...
          www.jimgoodinmusic.com
          www.chinapaintingmusic.com
          www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
          www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
          www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
          www.myspace.com/jindream
          www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

          video work/editing...
          www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

          social networking...
          www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic







      --=20
      ReUse, an introspective textural aural
      www.myspace.com/CtReUse

      music links...
      www.jimgoodinmusic.com
      www.chinapaintingmusic.com
      www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
      www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
      www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
      www.myspace.com/jindream
      www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

      video work/editing...
      www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

      social networking...
      www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic







  --=20
  ReUse, an introspective textural aural
  www.myspace.com/CtReUse

  music links...
  www.jimgoodinmusic.com
  www.chinapaintingmusic.com
  www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
  www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
  www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
  www.myspace.com/jindream
  www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

  video work/editing...
  www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

  social networking...
  www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS">It's not that long ago that =
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dtchambeau@comcast.net=20
href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net">Todd Chambeau</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 04, 2010 12:29 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: "East Coast Loopers" is now "Eastern=20
Loopers"...</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Wow. Even though I asked, I have to admit that I at least =
thought=20
you guys were viewing each other. Very impressive that you were not. I =
could see=20
taking the visuals out with each other would not only encourage, but =
FORCE you=20
to listen and respond to each other musically.=20
<DIV>Outstanding.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Jan 3, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:</DIV><BR=20
class=3DApple-interchange-newline>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">Todd thanks so much for the note and watching =
the=20
  playback back.&nbsp; We currently are 'not on camera' partly as a past =
edict=20
  to a preferred criteria set in motion by the recent Virtual Sound and =
Vision=20
  festival, which was to try to do something more than 'just musicians =
playing=20
  in front of a webcam' plus currently two of our gathering don't as yet =
have=20
  webcams or have worked with them but that's coming though I think a =
mix of the=20
  archive video and some live is the goal.&nbsp; The last two films have =
been=20
  great fun to work with.&nbsp; So secondary answer no&nbsp; we are not =
seeing=20
  each other we are merely as Chinapainting partner Daryl once said =
'reacting to=20
  each others live sounds through speakers and headphones and reacting=20
  back'.&nbsp; NinJam is a wonderful mysterious challenging exciting =
turf but=20
  probably responsible for some of my most creative productive music =
these last=20
  few years.<BR><BR>Thanks again for your words.<BR><BR>Jim<BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Todd Chambeau =
<SPAN=20
  dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net">tchambeau@comcast.net</A>&gt;</SPAN=
>=20
  wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
  class=3Dgmail_quote>
    <DIV>Jim,=20
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>No problem. I just listened to some of the archive, very good. =
Are you=20
    4 able to see each other via webcam? Does this webcast format have =
the=20
    ability to show a split screen of the four of you playing =
individually? I=20
    liked the visuals, but I would love to see a flash of who is doing =
what=20
    every couple of minutes. Not complaining, just wondering if that is=20
    possible.</DIV>
    <DIV>Sonically, I loved it.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT color=3D#888888>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>Todd</DIV></FONT>
    <DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dh5>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:</DIV><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">Todd my apologies, that was my typo =
missing 'live'=20
      in the link, too little sleep and rushing to get ready for the =
cast but=20
      thanks for trying.&nbsp; As Jeff indicated the archive recording =
will be=20
      up in a bit at <A =
href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive"=20
      =
target=3D_blank>http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive</A>.<BR><BR><BR=
><BR><BR><BR>
      <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Todd =
Chambeau=20
      <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net"=20
      target=3D_blank>tchambeau@comcast.net</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
      style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt =
0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
      class=3Dgmail_quote>
        <DIV>Not sure if it is too early, but I get an error message =
from the=20
        livestream site saying they could not find the page. Clock says =
its=20
        11:01AM=20
        <DIV>
        <DIV></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV><BR>
        <DIV>
        <DIV>On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:</DIV><BR>
        <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">Warren that's exactly what I thought =
if we go=20
          far enough east we become west and say hello to the Walker =
brothers...=20
          (thanks for your note btw, more later on =
that)...<BR><BR>seriously I=20
          am open to a name change of the group on FB, all ears=20
          here..<BR><BR>lastly Dig It Signal, live in45 min at 11am EST, =
<A=20
          href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal"=20
          =
target=3D_blank>http://www.livestream.com/digitsignal</A>.&nbsp; Movie=20
          footage we are going to play to is fantastic, The Last Man On =
Earth=20
          with Vincent Price...<BR><BR>
          <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, =
Warren Sirota=20
          <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com"=20
          target=3D_blank>wsirota@wsdesigns.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> =
wrote:<BR>
          <BLOCKQUOTE=20
          style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt =
0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
          class=3Dgmail_quote>Oh Rainer, all Americans are americentric =
pigs.=20
            just accept it already. We still love you even tho you're =
from=20
            Europe. :-)<BR><BR>But yeah, actually, Eastern loopers to me =

            intuitively means Asians. Although you can keep going East =
from=20
            there and hit the West, so West is East, no?<BR><BR>
            <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
            <DIV>On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Rainer Straschill <SPAN =

            dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com"=20
            target=3D_blank>moinsound@googlemail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN>=20
            wrote:<BR></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <DIV></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <BLOCKQUOTE=20
            style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: =
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
            class=3Dgmail_quote>Well done, very US-like point of view: =
there=20
              cannot possibly be any point on earth farther east than =
New York=20
              with any traces of (looping) culture, so "Eastern US" and=20
              "Eastern" is synonymous.<BR>Or would you accept people =
from=20
              farther east...like the whole of Europe? ;)=20
              <DIV><BR>
              <BLOCKQUOTE=20
              style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: =
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
              class=3Dgmail_quote>Okay I have taken the challenge of our =
friends=20
                in the Northwest and created a Face Book group that I =
just=20
                renamed as I felt 'coast' was limiting, so it's now =
Eastern=20
                Loopers. &nbsp;If you are in this community here in the =
Eastern=20
                US, either join FB or if you are in FB go to the link =
below and=20
                join up and let's get a festival going in this neck of =
the=20
                woods!<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>-- <BR></DIV><A=20
              href=3D"http://moinlabs.de"=20
              =
target=3D_blank>http://moinlabs.de</A><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></=
DIV><FONT=20
            color=3D#888888><BR><BR clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>Warren<BR><A=20
            href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com"=20
            target=3D_blank>http://www.warrensirota.com</A><BR>NEW CD: =
Loops, Live=20
            &amp; Otw<BR><A =
href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota"=20
            =
target=3D_blank>http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota</A><BR></FONT></BLO=
CKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR=20
          clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>ReUse, an introspective textural =
aural<BR><A=20
          href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse"=20
          target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/CtReUse</A><BR><BR>music =
links...<BR><A=20
          href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com"=20
          target=3D_blank>www.jimgoodinmusic.com</A><BR><A=20
          href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com"=20
          target=3D_blank>www.chinapaintingmusic.com</A><BR><A=20
          href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic"=20
          target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</A><BR><A=20
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          target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</A><BR><A=20
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          =
target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</A><BR><A=20
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          target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/jindream</A><BR><A=20
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          =
target=3D_blank>www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</A><BR><BR>video=20
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href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital"=20
          =
target=3D_blank>www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</A><BR><BR>social=20
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href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic"=20
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target=3D_blank>www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</A><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></=
DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR=20
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aural<BR><A=20
      href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse"=20
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      href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com"=20
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      =
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DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR=20
  clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>ReUse, an introspective textural aural<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</A><BR><B=
R>music=20
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  =
href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</A><BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</A>=
<BR><A=20
  =
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  =
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  =
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  =
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<A=20
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My name is Mr. Alex Turner, on behalf of a friend of yours I want to inform 
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dollars to the TNT Delivery services here in West Africa, due to fact that I 
have waited enough to hear from you so that your funds will be transferred 
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Actually no, I have no motivation to go the lap top route, at this  
time.  I've seen to many loopfest participants scramble to cobble  
together  hardware because their computer rig died on them. no matter  
what folks said about the ratio of hardware to software failure,  
unless I were to buy duplicate lap tops which is not in my budget  
right now. I'm simply pairing down my hardware options. I realized  
that I have more than enough choices with the LP-1, and a good DSP and  
a good preamp.  I'm using a TC fireworx which has plenty enough  
effects options to keep me happy and an ethos preamp which is  
replacing my heavier Boogie formula preamp. That and my midi  
controller a few expression pedals, and I'm ready for action. The idea  
of creating scripts is interesting to me, and at the same time because  
so much of what I do is in the moment and improvisational. I'm not  
sure I want to spend many hours creating recording scripts if  I'm not  
sure  the music is going to unfold in the way i scripted it. I'm sure  
I'll get over this bias eventually, and if I was scripting for songs  
that had definite arrangements it would make sense for me.  I to am  
pairing down for travel but it will be a while before the lap top is  
part of my rig. What are your issues with the LP-1 as far as quantize  
is concerned. Are you talking about first loop quantizing? The way I  
have been using Quantize replace is to create a short blank loop and  
then start adding content one note at a time using quantize replace  
set to 1/16th. i have a preset that duplicates the quantize replace  
function so that the preset switch acts as a sus command, i only have  
to hit the preset once and it will open and close capturing the notes  
are chords I just played. I'm able to create percolating sequencer  
style parts  that emerge from a non rhythmic  beginning. I'm not sure  
if I'm articulating that right but I'll post some Youtube examples in  
the next few weeks.  One thing I learned from my last trip to Europe  
was that pairing down gear gave me  fewer options, and yet having  
fewer choices meant that I was forced to be more musical and less  
reliant on effects. It was really liberating even though I missed all  
of the options, to not be over thinking and over using the DSP.
  Bill
On Jan 4, 2010, at 1:19 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
> hi bill. it's the desire for a smaller, lighter, more powerful setup  
> that's motivating the change. i can ditch 6 rack spaces (mixer,  
> lp-1, lexicon mpx-1, tc-d2, repeater) about 30 cables and several  
> kilos in weight. i'll have a 2u rack case with a tc g-force and  
> eclipse in it, with the laptop on top. i'll probably get an apogee  
> duet and two small powered monitors. a pedal case on the floor and  
> one on a stand and i'll be rockin. just did some recording with my  
> ambient band (Zillo) and the gear issue was a nightmare!
>
> i do have issues with the lp-1 (quantisation etc), but it's a great  
> piece of kit and i'm happy to support bob in any way that i can.  
> however - i'm looking forward to scripting with mobius, because i  
> want to be able to do stuff with my loops, which i'm currently  
> having to do (on a basic level) by sending midi notes to the lp-1  
> from my old drum machine (more cables, power supplies and hassle!).
>
> quantize replace is great - especially if you run the lp-1 through  
> some sort of delay line which is tempo synced (via the lp-1 midi  
> clock) - you can get some really interesting stuff going on
>
> so are you thinking of making the switch too (i've just seen dennis  
> moser make a post on facebook about exactly the same thing!)
>
> sim
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 1:44 AM, William Walker  
> <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
> Hi Simeon i've been following your post and i was wondering if it  
> was problems with the Looperlative or just the desire for smaller,  
> lighter, more powerful, that is motivating your move to lap top? It  
> occurred to me that you have been very active on the looperlative  
> site, where I must say with a certain amount of guilt that I have  
> not .  I've spent countless hours as I'm sure you have finding new  
> ways to control the Lp-1, but unlike you I haven't made the effort  
> to post to the LP-1 forum.  Lately I've been having a blast with  
> quantize replace which, never having been an EDP user, is somewhat  
> of a revelation for me. I'd be interested to know your thoughts if  
> you have a free moment.
> Thanks
>  Bill
>


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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Actually no, I have no =
motivation to go the lap top route, at this time. &nbsp;I've seen to =
many loopfest participants scramble to cobble together &nbsp;hardware =
because their computer rig died on them. no matter what folks said about =
the ratio of hardware to software failure, unless I were to buy =
duplicate lap tops which is not in my budget right now. I'm simply =
pairing down my hardware options. I realized that I have more than =
enough choices with the LP-1, and a good DSP and a good preamp. =
&nbsp;I'm using a TC fireworx which has plenty enough effects options to =
keep me happy and an ethos preamp which is replacing my heavier Boogie =
formula preamp. That and my midi controller a few expression pedals, and =
I'm ready for action. The idea of creating scripts is interesting to me, =
and at the same time because so much of what I do is in the moment and =
improvisational. I'm not sure I want to spend many hours creating =
recording scripts if &nbsp;I'm not sure &nbsp;the music is going to =
unfold in the way i scripted it. I'm sure I'll get over this bias =
eventually, and if I was scripting for songs that had definite =
arrangements it would make sense for me. &nbsp;I to am pairing down for =
travel but it will be a while before the lap top is part of my rig. What =
are your issues with the LP-1 as far as quantize is concerned. Are you =
talking about first loop quantizing? The way I have been using Quantize =
replace is to create a short blank loop and then start adding content =
one note at a time using quantize replace set to 1/16th. i have a preset =
that duplicates the quantize replace function so that the preset switch =
acts as a sus command, i only have to hit the preset once and it will =
open and close capturing the notes are chords I just played. I'm able to =
create percolating sequencer style parts &nbsp;that emerge from a non =
rhythmic &nbsp;beginning. I'm not sure if I'm articulating that right =
but I'll post some Youtube examples in the next few weeks. &nbsp;One =
thing I learned from my last trip to Europe was that pairing down gear =
gave me &nbsp;fewer options, and yet having fewer choices meant that I =
was forced to be more musical and less reliant on effects. It was really =
liberating even though I missed all of the options, to not be over =
thinking and over using the DSP.<div>&nbsp;Bill<br><div><div>On Jan 4, =
2010, at 1:19 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:</div><blockquote type=3D"cite">hi =
bill. it's the desire for a smaller, lighter, more powerful setup that's =
motivating the change. i can ditch 6 rack spaces (mixer, lp-1, lexicon =
mpx-1, tc-d2, repeater) about 30 cables and several kilos in weight. =
i'll have a 2u rack case with a tc g-force and eclipse in it, with the =
laptop on top. i'll probably get an apogee duet and two small powered =
monitors. a pedal case on the floor and one on a stand and i'll be =
rockin. just did some recording with my ambient band (Zillo) and the =
gear issue was a nightmare!<br> <br>i do have issues with the lp-1 =
(quantisation etc), but it's a great piece of kit and i'm happy to =
support bob in any way that i can. however - i'm looking forward to =
scripting with mobius, because i want to be able to do stuff with my =
loops, which i'm currently having to do (on a basic level) by sending =
midi notes to the lp-1 from my old drum machine (more cables, power =
supplies and hassle!). <br> <br>quantize replace is great - especially =
if you run the lp-1 through some sort of delay line which is tempo =
synced (via the lp-1 midi clock) - you can get some really interesting =
stuff going on<br><br>so are you thinking of making the switch too (i've =
just seen dennis moser make a post on facebook about exactly the same =
thing!)<br> <br>sim<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 4, =
2010 at 1:44 AM, William Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com">billwalker@baymoon.com</a>&gt;</spa=
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1ex;"> Hi Simeon i've been following your post and i was wondering if it =
was problems with the Looperlative or just the desire for smaller, =
lighter, more powerful, that is motivating your move to lap top? It =
occurred to me that you have been very active on the looperlative site, =
where I must say with a certain amount of guilt that I have not . =
&nbsp;I've spent countless hours as I'm sure you have finding new ways =
to control the Lp-1, but unlike you I haven't made the effort to post to =
the LP-1 forum. &nbsp;Lately I've been having a blast with quantize =
replace which, never having been an EDP user, is somewhat of a =
revelation for me. I'd be interested to know your thoughts if you have a =
free moment.<br> Thanks<br> &nbsp;Bill<br> =
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Quoting William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>:
> The way I
> have been using Quantize replace is to create a short blank loop and
> then start adding content one note at a time using quantize replace
> set to 1/16th. ...I'm able to create percolating sequencer
> style parts  that emerge from a non rhythmic  beginning.
>
I enjoy doing the same thing with my LP1 and I use he LP1's MIDI Clock =20
to trigger envelope generators to achieve the "percolating sequencer =20
style parts".  I have had great results using the LP1 with my Aries =20
Modular Synth.

However, I need to use laptop based looping for my theremin works.  To =20
play a gestural-controlled instrument such as the theremin and to =20
accomplish concise and complex looping just hasn't worked for me.  =20
Thus, everything is scripted and I have to play in-sync with the =20
computer to make everything work.

My laptop failures were due to an impending hard-disk crash that I, =20
unfortunately, I didn't recognize (I assumed it was overheat problems).

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mitigate the risks involved.

-- Kevin

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Is anybody using this? I cannot figure out this thing. I got it for  
the stompbox behavior so I can basically keep my eyes off my laptop.  
I considered myself somewhat experienced with this kind of stuff, but  
man, I'm baffled.

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I have it, but I haven't really done much with it.  Check the FCB1010_Uno
yahoo group.  Os (the guy who wrote the UNO software) is on there and is
very helpful.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:

> Is anybody using this? I cannot figure out this thing. I got it for the
> stompbox behavior so I can basically keep my eyes off my laptop. I
> considered myself somewhat experienced with this kind of stuff, but man, I'm
> baffled.
>
>


-- 
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I have it, but I haven&#39;t really done much with it.=A0 Check the FCB1010=
_Uno yahoo group.=A0 Os (the guy who wrote the UNO software) is on there an=
d is very helpful.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at=
 2:48 PM, Chris Sewell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lunamusic@ma=
c.com">lunamusic@mac.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Is anybody using =
this? I cannot figure out this thing. I got it for the stompbox behavior so=
 I can basically keep my eyes off my laptop. I considered myself somewhat e=
xperienced with this kind of stuff, but man, I&#39;m baffled.<br>

<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- <br>To=
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Also, I'd get the Ripwerx editor.  It recognizes and can program an Uno
equiped FCB.

http://www.ripwerx.com/

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:

> Is anybody using this? I cannot figure out this thing. I got it for the
> stompbox behavior so I can basically keep my eyes off my laptop. I
> considered myself somewhat experienced with this kind of stuff, but man, I'm
> baffled.
>
>


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Also, I&#39;d get the Ripwerx editor.=A0 It recognizes and can program an U=
no equiped FCB.<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.ripwerx.com/">http://www.ripwe=
rx.com/</a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:48 P=
M, Chris Sewell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lunamusic@mac.com">=
lunamusic@mac.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Is anybody using =
this? I cannot figure out this thing. I got it for the stompbox behavior so=
 I can basically keep my eyes off my laptop. I considered myself somewhat e=
xperienced with this kind of stuff, but man, I&#39;m baffled.<br>

<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- <br>To=
ny<br>

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Hi Chris -

I have it, and use it, but not for looping.  IIRC, I used the ripwerx editor
to associate CC numbers with the top row of switches.  I agree that the
Behringer manual and the UNO extensions for explaining programming via the
footswitch itself complicated, to say the least.

  -- Todd

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also, I'd get the Ripwerx editor.  It recognizes and can program an Uno
> equiped FCB.
>
> http://www.ripwerx.com/
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Is anybody using this? I cannot figure out this thing. I got it for the
>> stompbox behavior so I can basically keep my eyes off my laptop. I
>> considered myself somewhat experienced with this kind of stuff, but man, I'm
>> baffled.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> -==-=-=-
> Tony
>

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Hi Chris -<br><br>I have it, and use it, but not for looping.=C2=A0 IIRC, I=
 used the ripwerx editor to associate CC numbers with the top row of switch=
es.=C2=A0 I agree that the Behringer manual and the UNO extensions for expl=
aining programming via the footswitch itself complicated, to say the least.=
<br>
<br>=C2=A0 -- Todd<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at=
 3:08 PM, Tony K <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bigtonyk@gmail.com=
">bigtonyk@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0p=
t 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Also, I&#39;d get the Ripwerx editor.=C2=A0 It recognizes and can program a=
n Uno equiped FCB.<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.ripwerx.com/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.ripwerx.com/</a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div cla=
ss=3D"im">
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Chris Sewell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:lunamusic@mac.com" target=3D"_blank">lunamusic@mac.com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br>
</div><div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-l=
eft: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:=
 1ex;">Is anybody using this? I cannot figure out this thing. I got it for =
the stompbox behavior so I can basically keep my eyes off my laptop. I cons=
idered myself somewhat experienced with this kind of stuff, but man, I&#39;=
m baffled.<br>


<br>
</blockquote></div></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- =
<br><font color=3D"#888888">Tony<br>
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Folks,

My main looper is a Gibson EDP. I would like to get a second looper  
for the purpose of being able to trigger loops from my drum set and  
other instruments on the other side of my studio room.
I can't afford another EDP and was looking at a used Jamman for $100.  
I recall hearing a Boss unit mentioned on here too.

Any thoughts or ideas?

Thanks
Todd

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> My main looper is a Gibson EDP. I would like to get a second looper 
> for the purpose of being able to trigger loops from my drum set and 
> other instruments on the other side of my studio room.
> I can't afford another EDP and was looking at a used Jamman for $100. 
> I recall hearing a Boss unit mentioned on here too.
>
> Any thoughts or ideas?
Hey Todd,

I'll first try to understand what you want to accomplish: from your 
text, it seems that you want to trigger "canned" (i.e. recorded probably 
in advance, and not subject to overdub/multiply/the entire EDP madness) 
loops from some controller, like a MIDIfied drumset (or trigger pads 
sitting in the drumset).

If so (and that's the big if), an old sampler w/ built-in scsi harddisc 
might do the trick; things like an EMU ESi-32 with turbo board (for 
timestretching) go for below $100 sometimes...

       Rainer

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Rainer,

Thanks for the reply. Actually, my drums are acoustic, no pads or  
midi. I realize the sound quality of trying to loop most of the kit  
would be poor, but I am thinking even if I mic just the kick drum or  
snare.
I also have a pedal steel and some other instruments spread around the  
room, so it would be nice to have the extra looper and like you said,  
avoid too much madness with the everything going through the EDP.

Todd





On Jan 5, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:

>
>> My main looper is a Gibson EDP. I would like to get a second looper  
>> for the purpose of being able to trigger loops from my drum set and  
>> other instruments on the other side of my studio room.
>> I can't afford another EDP and was looking at a used Jamman for  
>> $100. I recall hearing a Boss unit mentioned on here too.
>>
>> Any thoughts or ideas?
> Hey Todd,
>
> I'll first try to understand what you want to accomplish: from your  
> text, it seems that you want to trigger "canned" (i.e. recorded  
> probably in advance, and not subject to overdub/multiply/the entire  
> EDP madness) loops from some controller, like a MIDIfied drumset (or  
> trigger pads sitting in the drumset).
>
> If so (and that's the big if), an old sampler w/ built-in scsi  
> harddisc might do the trick; things like an EMU ESi-32 with turbo  
> board (for timestretching) go for below $100 sometimes...
>
>      Rainer
>
> -- 
> http://moinlabs.de
>

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hello chaps - i'm really pleased to announce that my new album is finally
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Listening on the site now - sounds just great! :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> hello chaps - i'm really pleased to announce that my new album is finally
> finished!
>
> it's called eScape and features 10 tracks of future groovin' guitar
> electronica (loop heavy, of course!)
>
> you can listen to the whole thing on the new mini-site i've just put up
> here...
>
> http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/eScape/
>
> i'm hoping to get a few reviews up on the site, so if you feel like sending
> me something (twitter length) then i'd be really grateful (i'll send you a
> free download too!)
>
> all the best
>
> simeon
>

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Congrats Simeon! Will listen to it and will let you know too. Thanks!

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> it's called eScape and features 10 tracks of future groovin' guitar 
> electronica (loop heavy, of course!)
Listening right now - more gear nerd explanations, please!
What are the drums, specifically? hand-programmed? Randomizer 
plugin/process on MIDI tracks? Tell us, pleeze...

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On Jan 5, 2010, at 7:15 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

> you can listen to the whole thing on the new mini-site i've just put  
> up here...
>
> http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/eScape/





Delectable!


cheers

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Yes! very interesting, is like an interactive audio instrument! maybe 
you could improve it vith more sounds and more duration!

Max Liver

Il 05/01/2010 16.15, Simeon Harris ha scritto:
> hello chaps - i'm really pleased to announce that my new album is 
> finally finished!
>
> it's called eScape and features 10 tracks of future groovin' guitar 
> electronica (loop heavy, of course!)
>
> you can listen to the whole thing on the new mini-site i've just put 
> up here...
>
> http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/eScape/
>
> i'm hoping to get a few reviews up on the site, so if you feel like 
> sending me something (twitter length) then i'd be really grateful 
> (i'll send you a free download too!)
>
> all the best
>
> simeon


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thanks chaps!

here's a little nerdy breakdown of each tune...

all the basic guitar sounds were created with pedals (including the ehx
microsynth) > mesa triaxis > tc g-force > eclipse. any looping done before
recording was with a looperlative and an electrix repeater. some pads and
rythmic loops were created with the tc d-2
all this was recorded in logic 7.2 running on an old g5 imac


The Moon at My Window - a little mini-soundscape to open. several layers,
but the opening sound is just some pitch shifted notes treated with logic
filter, gateboy (slicer), logic spectral filter and delay

Lucid Dreaming - the drums in this one are loops, as are the bass lines. the
drums at the end were chopped up to add variation. guitar pads in the intro
created with reaktor. the little slices of guitar were created by dropping
an arpeggiated chord into intakt, chopping it up and triggering via midi

The Space Between Breaths - midi drums in this one, which i programmed. i
ran the rendered audio file through a reel to reel tape machine (pushing the
levels) to warm them up a bit. a bit of side chain compression added when
brought back into logic. the main guitar melody is the microsynth (played
with slide)

eScape - more reaktor on the guitar in this one. the drums are several loops
layered in different ways to add variation

After Night Falls - the drums are loops again (chopped up etc). the bass was
played by my good friend and musical brother, jason rogers. tons and tons of
layers in this one...very dense

Techtonik - more drum loops and comb delays from the eclipse on the lead
solo. the very end is slices of guitar with eq automation

The Second Realm - string samples in this one, more choppy guitar sounds
created with gateboy and filters. i used the replicant plugin to add random
variation to the djembe (?) loops. some pads created with reaktor and
spektral delay. the vocal effect on the second guitar solo is the formant
filter in the g-force swept with a cc pedal (like a wah). main drum part is
chopped up loops

To Gather Up One's Shadow - the lead break in this - no i didn't play it
(Holdsworth might be able to!) - i sampled myself, dropped the file into
intakt and triggered each note via midi. nice ambient break in the middle!

Here and Now - the voice is Alan Watts. the drums in the first half are
loops and in the second half, midi drums which i programmed. the choppy
sound is a loop in the lopperlative which has been "scrambled"

Into the Light - reaktor beat boxes for the drums here. lots of layers of
stuff. wanted to do something darker than the sort of ambient stuff i did on
<captured>.


well that's all i can think of off the top of my head. i'm happy to answer
any questions about specific sounds or techniques i used (if i can
remember!)

thanks for listening!

sim

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<br>thanks chaps!<br><br>here&#39;s a little nerdy breakdown of each tune..=
.<br><br>all the basic guitar sounds were created with pedals (including th=
e ehx microsynth) &gt; mesa triaxis &gt; tc g-force &gt; eclipse. any loopi=
ng done before recording was with a looperlative and an electrix repeater. =
some pads and rythmic loops were created with the tc d-2<br>
all this was recorded in logic 7.2 running on an old g5 imac<br><br><br>The=
 Moon at My Window - a little mini-soundscape to open. several layers, but =
the opening sound is just some pitch shifted notes treated with logic filte=
r, gateboy (slicer), logic spectral filter and delay<br>
<br>Lucid Dreaming - the drums in this one are loops, as are the bass lines=
. the drums at the end were chopped up to add variation. guitar pads in the=
 intro created with reaktor. the little slices of guitar were created by dr=
opping an arpeggiated chord into intakt, chopping it up and triggering via =
midi<br>
<br>The Space Between Breaths - midi drums in this one, which i programmed.=
 i ran the rendered audio file through a reel to reel tape machine (pushing=
 the levels) to warm them up a bit. a bit of side chain compression added w=
hen brought back into logic. the main guitar melody is the microsynth (play=
ed with slide)<br>
<br>eScape - more reaktor on the guitar in this one. the drums are several =
loops layered in different ways to add variation<br><br>After Night Falls -=
 the drums are loops again (chopped up etc). the bass was played by my good=
 friend and musical brother, jason rogers. tons and tons of layers in this =
one...very dense<br>
<br>Techtonik - more drum loops and comb delays from the eclipse on the lea=
d solo. the very end is slices of guitar with eq automation<br><br>The Seco=
nd Realm - string samples in this one, more choppy guitar sounds created wi=
th gateboy and filters. i used the replicant plugin to add random variation=
 to the djembe (?) loops. some pads created with reaktor and spektral delay=
. the vocal effect on the second guitar solo is the formant filter in the g=
-force swept with a cc pedal (like a wah). main drum part is chopped up loo=
ps<br>
<br>To Gather Up One&#39;s Shadow - the lead break in this - no i didn&#39;=
t play it (Holdsworth might be able to!) - i sampled myself, dropped the fi=
le into intakt and triggered each note via midi. nice ambient break in the =
middle!<br>
<br>Here and Now - the voice is Alan Watts. the drums in the first half are=
 loops and in the second half, midi drums which i programmed. the choppy so=
und is a loop in the lopperlative which has been &quot;scrambled&quot;<br>
<br>Into the Light - reaktor beat boxes for the drums here. lots of layers =
of stuff. wanted to do something darker than the sort of ambient stuff i di=
d on &lt;captured&gt;. <br><br><br>well that&#39;s all i can think of off t=
he top of my head. i&#39;m happy to answer any questions about specific sou=
nds or techniques i used (if i can remember!)<br>
<br>thanks for listening!<br><br>sim<br>

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thanks chaps!

here's a little nerdy breakdown of each tune...

all the basic guitar sounds were created with pedals (including the ehx mic=
rosynth) > mesa triaxis > tc g-force > eclipse. any looping done before rec=
ording was with a looperlative and an electrix repeater. some pads and ryth=
mic loops were created with the tc d-2
=0Aall this was recorded in logic 7.2 running on an old g5 imac


The Moon at My Window - a little mini-soundscape to open. several layers, b=
ut the opening sound is just some pitch shifted notes treated with logic fi=
lter, gateboy (slicer), logic spectral filter and delay
=0A
Lucid Dreaming - the drums in this one are loops, as are the bass lines. th=
e drums at the end were chopped up to add variation. guitar pads in the int=
ro created with reaktor. the little slices of guitar were created by droppi=
ng an arpeggiated chord into intakt, chopping it up and triggering via midi
=0A
The Space Between Breaths - midi drums in this one, which i programmed. i r=
an the rendered audio file through a reel to reel tape machine (pushing the=
 levels) to warm them up a bit. a bit of side chain compression added when =
brought back into logic. the main guitar melody is the microsynth (played w=
ith slide)
=0A
eScape - more reaktor on the guitar in this one. the drums are several loop=
s layered in different ways to add variation

After Night Falls - the drums are loops again (chopped up etc). the bass wa=
s played by my good friend and musical brother, jason rogers. tons and tons=
 of layers in this one...very dense
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Techtonik - more drum loops and comb delays from the eclipse on the lead so=
lo. the very end is slices of guitar with eq automation

The Second Realm - string samples in this one, more choppy guitar sounds cr=
eated with gateboy and filters. i used the replicant plugin to add random v=
ariation to the djembe (?) loops. some pads created with reaktor and spektr=
al delay. the vocal effect on the second guitar solo is the formant filter =
in the g-force swept with a cc pedal (like a wah). main drum part is choppe=
d up loops
=0A
To Gather Up One's Shadow - the lead break in this - no i didn't play it (H=
oldsworth might be able to!) - i sampled myself, dropped the file into inta=
kt and triggered each note via midi. nice ambient break in the middle!
=0A
Here and Now - the voice is Alan Watts. the drums in the first half are loo=
ps and in the second half, midi drums which i programmed. the choppy sound =
is a loop in the lopperlative which has been "scrambled"
=0A
Into the Light - reaktor beat boxes for the drums here. lots of layers of s=
tuff. wanted to do something darker than the sort of ambient stuff i did on=
 <captured>.=20


well that's all i can think of off the top of my head. i'm happy to answer =
any questions about specific sounds or techniques i used (if i can remember=
!)
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thanks for listening!

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top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Thanks!&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Nice reading=
 and listening.<div><br></div><div>Best regards&nbsp;</div><div>Rune Fagere=
ng, Norway&nbsp;<br><br>--- Den <b>tir 2010-01-05 skrev Simeon Harris <i>&l=
t;simeonharris40@googlemail.com&gt;</i></b>:<br><blockquote style=3D"border=
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r>Fra: Simeon Harris &lt;simeonharris40@googlemail.com&gt;<br>Emne: Re: New=
 Album Spam<br>Til: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Dato: Tirsdag 5.=
 januar 2010 18.15<br><br><div id=3D"yiv1469358488"><br>thanks chaps!<br><b=
r>here's a little nerdy breakdown of each tune...<br><br>all the basic guit=
ar sounds were created with pedals (including the ehx microsynth) &gt; mesa=
 triaxis &gt; tc g-force &gt; eclipse. any looping done before recording wa=
s with a looperlative and an electrix repeater. some pads and rythmic loops=
 were
 created with the tc d-2<br>=0Aall this was recorded in logic 7.2 running o=
n an old g5 imac<br><br><br>The Moon at My Window - a little mini-soundscap=
e to open. several layers, but the opening sound is just some pitch shifted=
 notes treated with logic filter, gateboy (slicer), logic spectral filter a=
nd delay<br>=0A<br>Lucid Dreaming - the drums in this one are loops, as are=
 the bass lines. the drums at the end were chopped up to add variation. gui=
tar pads in the intro created with reaktor. the little slices of guitar wer=
e created by dropping an arpeggiated chord into intakt, chopping it up and =
triggering via midi<br>=0A<br>The Space Between Breaths - midi drums in thi=
s one, which i programmed. i ran the rendered audio file through a reel to =
reel tape machine (pushing the levels) to warm them up a bit. a bit of side=
 chain compression added when brought back into logic. the main guitar melo=
dy is the microsynth (played with slide)<br>=0A<br>eScape - more reaktor on=
 the guitar in this one. the drums are several loops layered in different w=
ays to add variation<br><br>After Night Falls - the drums are loops again (=
chopped up etc). the bass was played by my good friend and musical brother,=
 jason rogers. tons and tons of layers in this one...very dense<br>=0A<br>T=
echtonik - more drum loops and comb delays from the eclipse on the lead sol=
o. the very end is slices of guitar with eq automation<br><br>The Second Re=
alm - string samples in this one, more choppy guitar sounds created with ga=
teboy and filters. i used the replicant plugin to add random variation to t=
he djembe (?) loops. some pads created with reaktor and spektral delay. the=
 vocal effect on the second guitar solo is the formant filter in the g-forc=
e swept with a cc pedal (like a wah). main drum part is chopped up loops<br=
>=0A<br>To Gather Up One's Shadow - the lead break in this - no i didn't pl=
ay it (Holdsworth might be able to!) - i sampled myself, dropped the file i=
nto intakt and triggered each note via midi. nice ambient break in the midd=
le!<br>=0A<br>Here and Now - the voice is Alan Watts. the drums in the firs=
t half are loops and in the second half, midi drums which i programmed. the=
 choppy sound is a loop in the lopperlative which has been "scrambled"<br>=
=0A<br>Into the Light - reaktor beat boxes for the drums here. lots of laye=
rs of stuff. wanted to do something darker than the sort of ambient stuff i=
 did on &lt;captured&gt;. <br><br><br>well that's all i can think of off th=
e top of my head. i'm happy to answer any questions about specific sounds o=
r techniques i used (if i can remember!)<br>=0A<br>thanks for listening!<br=
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...is awesome.

that is all.  just very excited, which is rare.

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...is awesome.<br><br>that is all.=A0 just very excited, which is rare.<br>=
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someone posted this:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Djzn0K...layer_embedded=20
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and i thought it was quite cool to see his gear.
he does a short bit w/ his EH 16secDD at about 7:50 or so.
it is quite cool. wish that would go=A0 on and on a bit more....oh well....
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Djzn0K...layer_embedded" ta=
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<DIV>and i thought it was quite cool to see his gear.</DIV>
<DIV>he does a short bit w/ his EH 16secDD at about 7:50 or so.</DIV>
<DIV>it is quite cool. wish that would go&nbsp; on and on a bit more....oh =
well....</DIV>
<DIV>s---</DIV>
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Try this link instead....

http://tinyurl.com/nels-gear-tour





>someone posted this:
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><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzn0K...layer_embedded>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzn0K...layer_embedded
>
>and i thought it was quite cool to see his gear.
>he does a short bit w/ his EH 16secDD at about 7:50 or so.
>it is quite cool. wish that would go  on and on a bit more....oh well....
>s---
><http://www.myspace.com/scotthansen>www.myspace.com/scotthansen


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<div>Try this link instead....</div>
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<div>http://tinyurl.com/nels-gear-tour</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>someone posted this:</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><a
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>and i thought it was quite cool to see
his gear.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>he does a short bit w/ his EH 16secDD at
about 7:50 or so.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>it is quite cool. wish that would go&nbsp;
on and on a bit more....oh well....</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>s---</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><a
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Hi Jim,

not sure if you saw my last post on this on KvR - I released a bugfix for t=
his.


cheers,
os.


2009/12/31 james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com>:
> anybody else out there running into problems with little spacey crashing
> bidule?=A0 the program functions but as soon as you double-click to open =
the
> gui, bidule shuts down.
>
> thanks.
>
> - jim
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Hey guys,

A bit of an old movie from a couple of months ago, but I hope you guys =
can enjoy it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DF5xNMnGAMSs

Cheers,

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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:12 AM, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...is awesome.
>
> that is all.=C2=A0 just very excited, which is rare.
>
> - jim

Yes, I love it too! I built a nice laptop looping rig in Bidule that I
have been using for a couple of years under both Windows XP and Mac OS
X. Then Apple released almost the same thing in Mainstage. Except for
the bang for buck you get by all those lovely Apple Logic plugins
Bidule still offers the user better tools to customize his rig. One
example is that in Bidule you can set a truly listening "reverb tail
preservation" function to smooth out switching between patches of
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effect chain Bidule keeps listening to the audio output of the
previous patch and keeps it open until its decay goes silent, before
closing it (and completely taking the load off the CPU). In Mainstage
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time and when this time runs out the audio is brutally snipped, no
matter if there is still a reverb sounding.

Greetings from Sweden

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Reyn,

Wow. That was outstanding!!!! Not just the piece, but the sound  
quality. The drum sound would even make Nick Mason proud.
Keep up the good work.

Todd
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> Hey guys,
>
> A bit of an old movie from a couple of months ago, but I hope you  
> guys can enjoy it..
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xNMnGAMSs
>
> Cheers,
>
> Reyn
>
> www.reyn.net
> www.reyn.vs.reyn.net
>

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waS gonna say the same thing.. crazyly good drum recording... whats the
looper BTW?

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net> wrote:

> Reyn,
>
> Wow. That was outstanding!!!! Not just the piece, but the sound quality.
> The drum sound would even make Nick Mason proud.
> Keep up the good work.
>
> Todd
> www.youtube.com/tchambeau
>
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:
>
>  Hey guys,
>>
>> A bit of an old movie from a couple of months ago, but I hope you guys can
>> enjoy it..
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xNMnGAMSs
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Reyn
>>
>> www.reyn.net
>> www.reyn.vs.reyn.net
>>
>>
>


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waS gonna say the same thing.. crazyly good drum recording... whats the loo=
per BTW?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:31 PM, =
Todd Chambeau <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net=
">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Reyn,<br>
<br>
Wow. That was outstanding!!!! Not just the piece, but the sound quality. Th=
e drum sound would even make Nick Mason proud.<br>
Keep up the good work.<br>
<br>
Todd<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/tchambeau" target=3D"_blank">www.youtube.=
com/tchambeau</a><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hey guys,<br>
<br>
A bit of an old movie from a couple of months ago, but I hope you guys can =
enjoy it..<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DF5xNMnGAMSs" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DF5xNMnGAMSs</a><br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Reyn<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.reyn.net" target=3D"_blank">www.reyn.net</a><br>
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Fantastic performance

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:32 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> waS gonna say the same thing.. crazyly good drum recording... whats the
> looper BTW?
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Reyn,
>>
>> Wow. That was outstanding!!!! Not just the piece, but the sound quality.
>> The drum sound would even make Nick Mason proud.
>> Keep up the good work.
>>
>> Todd
>> www.youtube.com/tchambeau
>>
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> A bit of an old movie from a couple of months ago, but I hope you guys
>>> can enjoy it..
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xNMnGAMSs
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Reyn
>>>
>>> www.reyn.net
>>> www.reyn.vs.reyn.net
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
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how is this done, per? do you place all the plugins into groups and use a
midi message to change the processing state?

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> switching between patches of
> effect chains.
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how is this done, per? do you place all the plugins into groups and use a m=
idi message to change the processing state?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">switching between=
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effect chains.<br></blockquote></div>

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Thanks! I always used EDPs and now I switched to the loopers of Ableton =
8 for more control (and stereo). Drums is just a simple 3 mic setup. =
It's more the acoustics, tuning and compression that makes it big.

R.

On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:32 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> waS gonna say the same thing.. crazyly good drum recording... whats =
the looper BTW?
>=20
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Todd Chambeau <tchambeau@comcast.net> =
wrote:
> Reyn,
>=20
> Wow. That was outstanding!!!! Not just the piece, but the sound =
quality. The drum sound would even make Nick Mason proud.
> Keep up the good work.
>=20
> Todd
> www.youtube.com/tchambeau
>=20
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> On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:
>=20
> Hey guys,
>=20
> A bit of an old movie from a couple of months ago, but I hope you guys =
can enjoy it..
>=20
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DF5xNMnGAMSs
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> Cheers,
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> Reyn
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> www.reyn.net
> www.reyn.vs.reyn.net
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Thanks! I always used EDPs and now I switched to the loopers of Ableton 8 for more control (and stereo). Drums is just a simple 3 mic setup. It's more the acoustics, tuning and compression that makes it big.</div><div><br></div><div>R.</div><br><div><div>On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:32 PM, mark francombe wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">waS gonna say the same thing.. crazyly good drum recording... whats the looper BTW?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Todd Chambeau <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:tchambeau@comcast.net">tchambeau@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Reyn,<br>
<br>
Wow. That was outstanding!!!! Not just the piece, but the sound quality. The drum sound would even make Nick Mason proud.<br>
Keep up the good work.<br>
<br>
Todd<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/tchambeau" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/tchambeau</a><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hey guys,<br>
<br>
A bit of an old movie from a couple of months ago, but I hope you guys can enjoy it..<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xNMnGAMSs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xNMnGAMSs</a><br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Reyn<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.reyn.net/" target="_blank">www.reyn.net</a><br>
<a href="http://www.reyn.vs.reyn.net/" target="_blank">www.reyn.vs.reyn.net</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
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This is standard technique with Bidule that has been posted many times
to this list. Check list archives for details. Basically you set up
this audio signal chain in Bidule:

1. You physical audio input device, cable it into...
2. Audio Switcher object.
3. Each of the Audio Switcher's outputs tags (lower side) is cabled to
one alternative effect chain.

>From the physical MIDI input device you toss a cable to the MIDI in
tag of the Audio Switcher, and then you send  MIDI Program Change
numbers from your control pedal to activate the Audio Switcher tag
corresponding to the MDII PC number (while automatically muting the
others that are not being selected by the incoming PC).

A picture is available at http://www.perboysen.com/archives/542

The "Tailpreservation" object is a group a guy at the Bidule forum
made for me. I think the download link and tutorial for using it is
still searchable at the Plogue forum. But it really doen't need a
tutorial because its parameters to be connected are named by the
connection you have to do, so it's just to read and connect the thing
in Bidules Parameter Window. And connect it to the last sounding
plugin in the effect chain, as seen on my picture.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



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> how is this done, per? do you place all the plugins into groups and use a
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>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> switching between patches of
>> effect chains.

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> A bit of an old movie from a couple of months ago, but I hope you guys can enjoy it..
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xNMnGAMSs
>   
Always enjoyed the stuff, you did here, and this one is no exception.

About the looper: if you're coming from the EDP, working with a computer 
and consider stereo operation a must, Möbius might be a choice for you:
http://www.circularlabs.com/

Basically, it's eight EDP stereo pairs built together in software, 
coming with complex sync features and a nifty scripting engine.

On an unrelated note: have you ever played (or considered playing next 
year) at Rick's fantastic festival?
http://y2kloopfest.com/

@Rick: I don't want to suggest anything here over your head, but I think 
Reyn would make a fantastic addition to the roster.

          Rainer


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... i enjoyed this, but not as much as Reyn performing it ;-)
also second rainer's opinion: put a mobius in your life!

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... i enjoyed this, but not as much as Reyn performing it ;-)<br>also second rainer&#39;s opinion: put a mobius in your life! <br><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at Blogger: <a href="http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.blogspot.com</a><br>
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@Rick: I don't want to suggest anything here over your head, but I=20
think Reyn would make a fantastic addition to the roster.=C2=A0



i would crawl across the US on my knees to see reyn set up in under a=20
1/2 hour!....:).....GREAT video reyn!!!!!!.....you make it look so easy!

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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... i enjoyed this, but not as much as Reyn performing it ;-)
> also second rainer's opinion: put a mobius in your life!

Yes, Reyn is playing so good that you almost get a feeling that the
looping is holding him back. Especially when limiting the gig to
working just one loop. It would have been cool with two or three
loops; like a verse part, a chorus part and a solo part where he could
stretch out a little more, take it down into a break and blow it up
into a peak thing.

But on the other hand, good showmanship means leaving the audience
wanting just a little bit more and in that regard this gig is a
masterpiece! Everytime Reyn leaves one instrument your reaction goes
"no, no... please stay and play more" :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Raul Bonell wrote:

> ... i enjoyed this, but not as much as Reyn performing it ;-)

For sure it's fun to do!

> also second rainer's opinion: put a mobius in your life!=20

So you think it's a better option then Ableton's Looper?

- I must admit there are a few setbacks on it and that's the MIDI and =
Audio are not sync anymore. I often like to do some live programming =
with it and that's hell.
- Also I often get this "Out of Memory" error dispite having put a lot =
of RAM in my laptop. Which is a bit of a drag since you can't save your =
session.=20

I do use a lot of loopers at the same time within Ableton (8 instances) =
together with some samplers so maybe I'm pushing it to the edge to much. =
You think Mobius would fix that problem? And since it's a EDP close it =
would be a walk in the park to get it to know.

So you guys did kinda made me curious...

Cheers,

Reyn.

www.reyn.net
www.reyn.vs.reyn.net


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brilliant, thanks per!

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is standard technique with Bidule that has been posted many times
> to this list. Check list archives for details. Basically you set up
> this audio signal chain in Bidule:
>
> 1. You physical audio input device, cable it into...
> 2. Audio Switcher object.
> 3. Each of the Audio Switcher's outputs tags (lower side) is cabled to
> one alternative effect chain.
>
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brilliant, thanks per!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 6, 201=
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This is standard technique with Bidule that has been posted many times<br>
to this list. Check list archives for details. Basically you set up<br>
this audio signal chain in Bidule:<br>
<br>
1. You physical audio input device, cable it into...<br>
2. Audio Switcher object.<br>
3. Each of the Audio Switcher&#39;s outputs tags (lower side) is cabled to<=
br>
one alternative effect chain.<br><br></blockquote></div>

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Louis,

The switches are pretty quiet, I think. Way quieter than the DL4, and also
quieter than the POK. I'm not sure about snow leopard, I'm running 10.5.8.

I didn't have any problem setting it up to control whatever I wanted. It
doesn't just send CC values. The switches can send bank change, program
change, MMC, and some kind of Mackie thing.

It's a really a decent, compact, inexpensive foot controller.

-George

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Louis Skelton
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> Hullo Folks!
>
> I was wondering if I could trouble anyone for an opinion on the Line-6
> MKII Shortboard. I'm currently using a footswitch plugged into a Korg
> PadKontrol to record loops and am looking to get something that will
> free my hands up a little. I predominately work through Ableton Live
> or Mainstage, and sometimes I use SooperLooper as a plugin. I'm on a
> Mac.
>
> I understand that the Line-6 only sends CC's rather than notes, will
> this be a problem? I know the FCB1010 is popular but the handiness of
> the Line-6's USB output and the included mapping software is making it
> rather tempting.
>
> I've also heard that Line-6 devices aren't working with Snow Leopard
> and that the switches on the Shortboard are a little loud (which would
> be a problem for acoustic/mic looping). Can anyone confirm any of
> this?
>
> Any experience with this controller would be much appreciated, or
> general advice on any other controllers you think might be suitable.
> (Has anyone seen/used these? http://younfx.com)
>
> I run a ronroco, an electric guitar, a digital piano, acoustic guitar
> and a mic through a mixer and then into a macbook.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> Louis
>
>


-- 
-George

http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic

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<div>Louis,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>The switches are pretty quiet, I think. Way quieter than the DL4, and =
also quieter than the POK. I&#39;m not sure about snow leopard, I&#39;m run=
ning 10.5.8.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I didn&#39;t have any problem setting it up to control whatever I want=
ed. It doesn&#39;t just send CC values. The switches can send bank change, =
program change, MMC, and some kind of Mackie thing.<br><br>It&#39;s a reall=
y a decent, compact, inexpensive=A0foot controller.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>-George<br></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Louis Skelton <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louis.skelton@googlemail.com">louis.s=
kelton@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Hullo Folks!<br><br>I was wonder=
ing if I could trouble anyone for an opinion on the Line-6<br>MKII Shortboa=
rd. I&#39;m currently using a footswitch plugged into a Korg<br>
PadKontrol to record loops and am looking to get something that will<br>fre=
e my hands up a little. I predominately work through Ableton Live<br>or Mai=
nstage, and sometimes I use SooperLooper as a plugin. I&#39;m on a<br>Mac.<=
br>
<br>I understand that the Line-6 only sends CC&#39;s rather than notes, wil=
l<br>this be a problem? I know the FCB1010 is popular but the handiness of<=
br>the Line-6&#39;s USB output and the included mapping software is making =
it<br>
rather tempting.<br><br>I&#39;ve also heard that Line-6 devices aren&#39;t =
working with Snow Leopard<br>and that the switches on the Shortboard are a =
little loud (which would<br>be a problem for acoustic/mic looping). Can any=
one confirm any of<br>
this?<br><br>Any experience with this controller would be much appreciated,=
 or<br>general advice on any other controllers you think might be suitable.=
<br>(Has anyone seen/used these? <a href=3D"http://younfx.com/" target=3D"_=
blank">http://younfx.com</a>)<br>
<br>I run a ronroco, an electric guitar, a digital piano, acoustic guitar<b=
r>and a mic through a mixer and then into a macbook.<br><br>Thanks for any =
help!<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>Louis<br><br></font></blockquote></div=
>
<br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-George<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspa=
ce.com/georgeludwigmusic">http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic</a><br>

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<html><body><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10=
pt;"><div>man, that killed. loved the song and the performance.&nbsp; quest=
ion: what was your video setup/config (cameras/lighting etc..)? it looked r=
eally nice.&nbsp; I'm in the process of planning my first video and this on=
e is very inspiring.<br><br></div>
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-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: El Pino &amp; The Volunteers<br>
From: Reyn Ouwehand &lt;loopers-delight@reyn.net&gt;<br>
Date: Wed, January 06, 2010 11:10 am<br>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<br>
<br>
On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Raul Bonell wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; ... i enjoyed this, but not as much as Reyn performing it ;-)<br>
<br>
For sure it's fun to do!<br>
<br>
&gt; also second rainer's opinion: put a mobius in your life! <br>
<br>
So you think it's a better option then Ableton's Looper?<br>
<br>
- I must admit there are a few setbacks on it and that's the MIDI and Audio=
 are not sync anymore. I often like to do some live programming with it and=
 that's hell.<br>
- Also I often get this "Out of Memory" error dispite having put a lot of R=
AM in my laptop. Which is a bit of a drag since you can't save your session=
. <br>
<br>
I do use a lot of loopers at the same time within Ableton (8 instances) tog=
ether with some samplers so maybe I'm pushing it to the edge to much. You t=
hink Mobius would fix that problem? And since it's a EDP close it would be =
a walk in the park to get it to know.<br>
<br>
So you guys did kinda made me curious...<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Reyn.<br>
<br>
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.reyn.net">www.reyn.net</a><br>
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.reyn.vs.reyn.net">www.reyn.vs.reyn.=
net</a><br>
<br>
<br>

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First of all, let me state that I have no experience with the Ableton 
looper (Per, any ideas about that how it compares to Möbius? I seem to 
remember you did use it).
> - I must admit there are a few setbacks on it and that's the MIDI and Audio are not sync anymore. I often like to do some live programming with it and that's hell.
>   
Möbius syncs well with Ableton's engine in both ways (i.e. both Ableton 
syncing to Möbius and the other way round).
> - Also I often get this "Out of Memory" error dispite having put a lot of RAM in my laptop. Which is a bit of a drag since you can't save your session. 
>   
Better than what earlier versions of Ableton Live (XP) did; simply 
crashing the computer for lack of memory...
> I do use a lot of loopers at the same time within Ableton (8 instances) together with some samplers so maybe I'm pushing it to the edge to much. You think Mobius would fix that problem? And since it's a EDP close it would be a walk in the park to get it to know
First of all, Möbius is already eight stereo loopers (think of it as 
eight brothersynced EDP pairs), so you'd only need one instance of it.
For comparison, I used to run Möbius as a plugin in Ableton live, which 
in turn also ran lots of plugins (e.g. Kontakt2 as a sampler) on an old 
Pentium M (passmark rating of 390 I believe) w/ 1GB of RAM without any 
problems.

So yes, at least you might give it a try. Btw, Jeff Larson (who wrote 
Möbius) is also on this list...

Yours,

          Rainer

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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> First of all, let me state that I have no experience with the Ableton loo=
per
> (Per, any ideas about that how it compares to M=C3=B6bius? I seem to reme=
mber you
> did use it).

In general I think Live's Looper plugin is good. So for a user it's
mostly a question of if Live's Looper offers the function he wants to
play with.

When using he looper as the sync master I think the feel is just as
snappy and musical as Mobius. But I think Ableton Live in the position
as the sync slave works better with its own Looper plugin compared to
following Mobius tempo by catching up on a MIDI Clock sync signal.
This is of course because a "catching-up-application" is constantly a
bit late.

Personally I'm such a big fan of Mobius scripting and option to stack
multiple alternative loops on each track that I chose to go with
another host than Ableton; Mainstage for live playing and Bidule for
recording. I found it difficult to loop in Ableton's Looper since I
have grown used to all the simple and powerful tools Mobius offers.
But as I said initially, if you don't need all those goodies Live's
Looper works perfectly well within its designed capacity.

I only have experience of using these software loopers as sync masters
and can not tell how well they perform when being synced as slaves to
a host application.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/091231.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
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in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #665                December 31, 2009.

RECAP:
On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Indra.  The Featured
CD at Midnight was Tripura Bhairavi, CD 5 of the Special Edition Tantric
Celebration series.

Indra: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#dec


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Fanger & Schonwalder Frankfurt Lunch      Analog Overdose 4 (Manikin)
Free System Pojekt,  The Valther Twins    Time Out of Mind (Acoustic
  Brehdan Pollard, and Hashtronaut          Wave)
Redshift             Schlachtof-Funf      RW Three (Distant Sun)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Indra                Lalette              Tripura Bhairavi (Eagle)
Indra                No Doubts            Tripura Bhairavi (Eagle)
Indra                Torrents             Tripura Bhairavi (Eagle)
Indra                Pithya               Tripura Bhairavi (Eagle)

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Steve
Roach.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk one from Arc of Passion
on Projekt Records.

Steve Roach: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#jan


Bill
========================================================================
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Very nice piano and looping.  Was the camera work done later?

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Todd Chambeau" <tchambeau@comcast.net>
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> Reyn,
> 
> Wow. That was outstanding!!!! Not just the piece, but the sound  
> quality. The drum sound would even make Nick Mason proud.
> Keep up the good work.
> 
> Todd
> www.youtube.com/tchambeau
> 
> 
> On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> A bit of an old movie from a couple of months ago, but I hope you  
>> guys can enjoy it..
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xNMnGAMSs
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Reyn
>>
>> www.reyn.net
>> www.reyn.vs.reyn.net
>> 

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Hey Chris,

Thanks for the listen.
All the songs were tracked in the studio.
Listening to some of your tracks now.
Digging it.
Actually my next CD is more in the pop rock vein.
I've been busy trying to remember how to play a kit for this, haven't done
that since I was 12.


Let me know if you decide to go the Boomerang route.

Andre

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On Sat, January 2, 2010 12:14 pm, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:
> "but I'd also have to get a good midi Ed's"..typo.  "good midi FC (foot
> controller)" is what I meant to say...stupid spellchecker got me
> again...:)
>
>    -------- Original Message --------
>  Subject: RE: New Loop
>  From: fh@flatheadband.com
>  Date: Sat, January 02, 2010 11:09 am
>  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>  I started looking for an edp yesterday after reading Todd's post and
> hearing his work...of course there are no edp's that I can find  to buy,
> and the search lead me to the looperlative site.  the lp1 looks really
> sweet. it's a little pricey for me at the moment but i might swing it...
> but I'd also have to get a good midi Ed's (sorry but behringer gear,
> specifically their mixers, preamps, and di's, has always sucked in my
> experience and I know their fcb1010? gets a lot of love here, i could try
> one at gc I guess).  I play around with ambiloop connected to audiomulch
> via virtual audio cable on my pc, controlled with my qwerty kb, and with
> a good laptop that would be more than enough for what I do if i added a
> midi foot controller, but I've had stability issues with computers (even
> highend macbook pros) at live gigs and just don't trust that kind of
> setup right now.  the lp1 does look great, I didn't see a mini on their
> product page...
> on the rang III, I've debated over getting that as well...now that it's
> out of beta I might just go that route, I just wish it had a similar
> layout to the original...as you know there's nothing like not having to
> bend down at all during a performance..no knobs is a great thing. also,
> with a new looper I'd like to finally be able to midi sync to a drum
> machine or the like, and the 'rang III's midi capabilities are limited at
> this point (ports are for software upgrades and linking to other 'rang
> III's).
> with a higher sampling rate I could probably get by without panning as I
> have become really good at layering on this old 'rang..it comes down to
> technique more than anything...lots of practice...lots.  I jam at least
> 3-4 hours a day looping and writing. and other days it playing bass with
> bands or recording traditionally (drums, bass, guitar and vocals).
>
> thanks for the info Andre, I'd love to see/read up on the looperlative
> mini you're talking about...also checked out your site, is your material
> looped live or tracked? in2mate sounded really cool..
>
> and Todd, I've done the simple acoustic/vocal thing for years
> too...sometimes it's the best thing in the world not to worry about any
> real gear huh? :)
> thanks again,
> Chris
>    -------- Original Message --------
>  Subject: RE: New Loop
>  From: AndrÃ©_Donawa
>  Date: Sat, January 02, 2010 9:44 am
>  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>  Hi Chris,
>
>  You might want to take a look at the Rang III.
>  Two Sample Rates - 48KHz or 24KHz, both with 20 bit samples; through
>  signal is always 48KHz with 24 bit samples
>
>  http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html
>
>  The Rang was my first looper (not counting my first adventures of dubbing
>  sounds from one portable tape recorder to another for a max of about 4
>  loops before it just all went to noise).
>  I loved it's ease of use.
>  I also had an echoplex which I loved, but it was stolen and lately I've
>  been using mobius and bidule on my laptop.
>  Even though I like the flexibility of my laptop setup I find I spend way
>  too much time looking at the screen during performances.
>  I'm currently using the looping function in the m9 which is a really
> great
>  pedal, but I'm missing my stereo.
>
>  If you don't need stereo you should definitely have a look at Bob
>  Amstadt's mini Looperlative. I don't think it's out yet but I saw a Beta
>  version when I was at Rick's place. If stereo wasn't an issue for me I'd
>  get it.
>
>  Of course I'm still trying to think of a way to scrape up some funds for
>  the LP1. Ahhh.... one can dream.
>
>  A fellow looper from Bim,
>
>  Andre
>
>  http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa
>  http://www.andredonawa.com
>  http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
>  http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa
>
>  On Fri, January 1, 2010 8:30 pm, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:
>  > I see, I was thinking of upgrading from the 'rang due to sample rate
> and
>  > routing/panning options. I'm not as concerned about recording quality
> (I
>  > don't record my looping other than to capture the moment), this is for
>  > live solo performance and I like simplicity. for 'in the box' looping
> and
>  > recording I use software.
>  > I've got a decent signal chain: taylor 314ce with a bagg's m1/padi
>  > preamp, beta58 vocal mic, green bullet harmonica mic, marshall as50r
>  > acoustic amp, 'rang and pedals in the loop so I can loop/effect vocals
>  > and guitar...but the boomerang's best sampling rate is only 24k, 11.76k
>  > freq max... so once I layer about 5-6 things it gets a little muddy
> with
>  > no panning options. I compensate with some pedals and technique on
> guitar
>  > and vocals, like singing in the green bullet for dynamics and
>  > flavor...I'm adding a small 6ch mixer for more eq &amp;amp; panning
>  > capabilities than the marshall, but it hasn't arrived yet...my loop out
>  > of the rang will still be mono but I can separate it from the live
>  > instruments and gain a little more clarity...
>  > thanks for the info and happy new year to you as well...
>  >
>  > -------- Original Message --------
>  > Subject: Re: New Loop
>  > From: Todd Chambeau
>  > Date: Fri, January 01, 2010 1:19 pm
>  > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>  >
>  > Chris,
>  > Glad you liked it. There was not much post-production, but I went
> directly
>  > out of my Allen&amp;amp; Heath mixing board into Pro Tools. This way I
> got
>  > away from the boxy sounding mic on the camcorder. Then when I mixed
> down
>  > in Protools I added a touch of Eq at 7k and 2db worth of gain reduction
>  > through a Manley Vari-Mu compressor. I guess some would say that is a
>  > decent amount of "Post Production"The reverbish sound of the loop is
> from
>  > the presets on the A&amp;amp;H Mixing board.The only non-live portion
> of the
>  > looping, was the strat lead and one of the high harmony vocal parts,
> which
>  > I did to cover up an off-key part. The Strat went directly into
> Protools,
>  > where I added a hint of reverb, nothing else.Someone can correct me if
> I
>  > am wrong, but I do not think the EDP will give you a "better quality "
>  > sound. It really starts with the quality of instruments, then your
>  > recording chain.The EDP probably has more options on it's looping
>  > capability, but I have only scratched the surface with it and really
> just
>  > mostly use the overdub feature to layer parts.
>  > Let me know if you have any other questions.Happy New YearTodd
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:43 PM, fh@flatheadband.com wrote:I've been
> lurking
>  > for a while as well, looping with a 'rang for a couple of years and am
>  > working up to shooting a vid of my performances, your work is
>  > inspiring...how much post work did you do to the track? if all that's
>  > live, I think I might have to move past my boomerang if this is what an
>  > edp sounds like. I play guitar, bass and sing and the low vocals really
>  > sound clear...loved the track and I echo the comments on the track's
>  > progression into chaos...nice.
>  >
>  > Chrishttp://www.flatheadband.com
>  > -------- Original Message --------
>  > Subject: New Loop
>  > From: Todd Chambeau
>  > Date: Wed, December 30, 2009 12:02 pm
>  > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>  >
>  >
>  > Loopers,
>  >
>  > I just wanted to thank everyone for the help over the last year. I've
>  > learned alot from just lurking and asking the occasional questions. I
>  > would also like to thank Luca from Italy for sending me that EDP
> manual.
>  >
>  >
>  > Here is loop I did after sorting through some old family video.
>  > It is through my EDP.
>  >
>  >
>  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEzb0TzvOY
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  > Todd Chambeau
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>
>
>





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Hi Reyn,

Brilliant stuff as usual.
Always enjoy your video's.
I'm also wondering what you are using for your video setup.

Andre

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On Wed, January 6, 2010 9:03 pm, Stephen Goodman wrote:
> Very nice piano and looping.  Was the camera work done later?
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Todd Chambeau" <tchambeau@comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 1:31 PM
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: Re: El Pino & The Volunteers
>
>> Reyn,
>>
>> Wow. That was outstanding!!!! Not just the piece, but the sound
>> quality. The drum sound would even make Nick Mason proud.
>> Keep up the good work.
>>
>> Todd
>> www.youtube.com/tchambeau
>>
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> A bit of an old movie from a couple of months ago, but I hope you
>>> guys can enjoy it..
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xNMnGAMSs
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Reyn
>>>
>>> www.reyn.net
>>> www.reyn.vs.reyn.net
>>>
>
>





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Per Boysen wrote:

> When using he looper as the sync master I think the feel is just as
> snappy and musical as Mobius. But I think Ableton Live in the position
> as the sync slave works better with its own Looper plugin compared to
> following Mobius tempo by catching up on a MIDI Clock sync signal.
> This is of course because a "catching-up-application" is constantly a
> bit late.

surely that only applies if you're varying the tempo?

andy

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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5) on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a
month-long Special Focus on Steve Roach.  The Featured CD at Midnight
will be disk one from "Arc of Passion" on Projekt Records.  For
details, see the Special Focus page at:
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Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet.

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this video came out today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&feature=3Dplayer_embedded

it shows pretty much what you say: control physical instruments by =20
MIDI, probably partly the guitar and mostly a sequencer.
I dont see it much related to looping
and I dont quite understand the point:
it must be great to be in the Orchestrion and hear it all directly, =20
but it still will not be better than a band (except that the robots =20
may play quicker and more exactly than players)
for the concert, he probably will have to amplify it all as usual so =20
it will sound a little more alive than from a sampler (since each =20
trigger is a real new note and not the same sample repeated), but also =20=

maintains all the problems of transport, space, amplification, =20
mixing... just saving the musicians really...

On 15 Dec 2009, at 21:32, George Ludwig wrote:

> I haven't seen it, but thanks for mentioning it. I just bought two =20
> tickets. :)
>
> My impression is that he is using MIDI (or some other control =20
> protocol) to trigger physical orchestral instruments to accompany =20
> him. I'm such a Metheny fan, I've got to see it no matter what...
>
> -George
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Christo Jota <chris@christojota.de> =20=

> wrote:
> Hi,
> did anyone see Pat Metheny on his Orchestrion-Tour ?
> Is it interesting for both loopers and "normal" people?
> I=B4m thinking about buying a ticket for me and my wife, but
> not sure if it=B4s something for both of us.
> I read on Metheny=B4s website that it=B4s a solo-performance
> using devices to replace other instruments, which sounds
> to me like he=B4s been using kind of a looping device.
> Certainly a custom made device built especially for Metheny...
> Anyone there who knows more about it?
> Best,
> Christo
> www.christojota.de
>
>
>
>
> --=20
> -George
>
> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">this video came out =
today:<div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&amp;feature=3Dplayer_=
embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&amp;feature=3Dplaye=
r_embedded</a></div><div><br></div><div>it shows pretty much what you =
say: control physical instruments by MIDI, probably partly the guitar =
and mostly a sequencer.</div><div>I dont see it much related to =
looping</div><div>and I dont quite understand the =
point:&nbsp;</div><div>it must be great to be in the Orchestrion and =
hear it all directly, but it still will not be better than a band =
(except that the robots may play quicker and more exactly than =
players)</div><div>for the concert, he probably will have to amplify it =
all as usual so it will sound a little more alive than from a sampler =
(since each trigger is a real new note and not the same sample =
repeated), but also maintains all the problems of transport, space, =
amplification, mixing... just saving the musicians =
really...</div><div><br><div><div>On 15 Dec 2009, at 21:32, George =
Ludwig wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>I haven't seen it, but thanks for mentioning it. I =
just bought two tickets. :)</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>My impression =
is that he is using MIDI (or some other control protocol) to trigger =
physical orchestral instruments to accompany him. I'm such a Metheny =
fan, I've got to see it no matter what...</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> =
<div>-George<br><br></div> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 13, =
2009 at 7:05 AM, Christo Jota <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de">chris@christojota.de</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br> <blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"> <div =
bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"> <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Hi,</font></div>=
 <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">did anyone see Pat Metheny on his =
Orchestrion-Tour ?</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Is =
it interesting for both loopers and "normal" people?</font></div> =
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I=B4m thinking about buying a =
ticket for me and my wife, but</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">not sure if it=B4s something for both of us.</font></div> =
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I read on Metheny=B4s website that =
it=B4s a solo-performance</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">using devices to replace other instruments, which =
sounds</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">to me like he=B4s=
 been using kind of a looping device. </font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Certainly a custom made device built especially for =
Metheny...</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Anyone =
there who knows more about it?</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Best,</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Christo</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial"><a href=3D"http://www.christojota.de/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.christojota.de</a></font></div> =
<div>&nbsp;</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- =
<br>-George<br><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic">http://www.myspace.com/g=
eorgeludwigmusic</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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Hey Loopers,=20
I'm going to be playing on KPIG's 'Please Stand By' live radio show on Sund=
ay January 10th sometime between 10-12.=A0 I'm very exited about it as it's=
 my first real radio appearance=0Aas a solo looping artist.=A0 I'll be play=
ing and talking about my=0Aupcoming January 12th house concert (see attache=
d flyer for Info) w/ Bryan Beller & Kira Small, which is at my home in Mont=
erey.=A0=0AI'm going to give away two free tickets to the show as well, so =
if any=0Aof you want to call in, please do!=A0 The frequency is 107.5 FM or=
=0Astreamed on KPIG.COM=0A.=A0 I know KPIG is not at all associated with ex=
perimental, drone, or=0Aavaunt guard music, but they are very supportive of=
 local artists and=0AI'm hoping to bring something a little different and n=
ew to their=0Atable.=A0 I'll also try to talk up the Y2K fest as much as I =
can,=A0 I=0Athink there's a lot of folks around Santa Cruz who would dig th=
e fest a lot if they knew how cool it was!=A0 Thanks you all for your time,=
 Steve Uccello http://steveuccello.com/

ps not sure how much time I'll actually have but thinking of playing this s=
ong on KPIG:=20
=A0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUleIPBK427I=0A=0A=0A      
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Hey Loopers, <br>I'm going to be playing on K=
PIG's 'Please Stand By' <span style=3D"border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102=
, 204); cursor: pointer;" class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262896454_0"><span=
 style=3D"border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" cla=
ss=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262899315_0">live radio</span></span> show on S=
unday January 10th sometime between 10-12.&nbsp; I'm very exited about it a=
s it's my first <span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262896454_1"><span cla=
ss=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262899315_1">real radio appearance</span></span=
>=0Aas a solo looping artist.&nbsp; I'll be playing and talking about my=0A=
upcoming January 12th house concert (see attached flyer for Info) w/ <span =
style=3D"border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" clas=
s=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262896454_2"><span style=3D"border-bottom: 1px d=
ashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_126=
2899315_2">Bryan Beller</span></span> &amp; Kira Small, which is at my home=
 in <span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262896454_3"><span class=3D"yshort=
cuts" id=3D"lw_1262899315_3">Monterey</span></span>.&nbsp;=0AI'm going to g=
ive away two free tickets to the show as well, so if any=0Aof you want to c=
all in, please do!&nbsp; The frequency is 107.5 FM or=0Astreamed on <a rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.kpig.com/"><span class=
=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262896454_4">KPIG.COM</span></a>=0A.&nbsp; I know=
 KPIG is not at all associated with experimental, drone, or=0Aavaunt guard =
music, but they are very supportive of local artists and=0AI'm hoping to br=
ing something a little different and new to their=0Atable.&nbsp; I'll also =
try to talk up the Y2K fest as much as I can,&nbsp; I=0Athink there's a lot=
 of folks around <span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262896454_5"><span cl=
ass=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262899315_4">Santa Cruz</span></span> who woul=
d dig the fest a lot if they knew how cool it was!&nbsp; Thanks you all for=
 your time, Steve Uccello <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"htt=
p://steveuccello.com/"><span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262896454_6">ht=
tp://steveuccello.com/</span></a><br><br>ps not sure how much time I'll act=
ually have but thinking of playing this song on KPIG: <br>&nbsp;<br><a rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUl=
eIPBK427I"><span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1262896454_7">http://www.you=
tube.com/watch?v=3DUleIPBK427I</span></a></td></tr></table><br>=0A=0A      
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LOL - a VG-99 instead of all that would spare him some touring costs! ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:

> this video came out today:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&feature=3Dplayer_embedded
>
> it shows pretty much what you say: control physical instruments by MIDI,
> probably partly the guitar and mostly a sequencer.
> I dont see it much related to looping
> and I dont quite understand the point:
> it must be great to be in the Orchestrion and hear it all directly, but i=
t
> still will not be better than a band (except that the robots may play
> quicker and more exactly than players)
> for the concert, he probably will have to amplify it all as usual so it
> will sound a little more alive than from a sampler (since each trigger is=
 a
> real new note and not the same sample repeated), but also maintains all t=
he
> problems of transport, space, amplification, mixing... just saving the
> musicians really...
>
> On 15 Dec 2009, at 21:32, George Ludwig wrote:
>
> I haven't seen it, but thanks for mentioning it. I just bought two ticket=
s.
> :)
>
> My impression is that he is using MIDI (or some other control protocol) t=
o
> trigger physical orchestral instruments to accompany him. I'm such a Meth=
eny
> fan, I've got to see it no matter what...
>
> -George
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Christo Jota <chris@christojota.de>wrote=
:
>
>>  Hi,
>> did anyone see Pat Metheny on his Orchestrion-Tour ?
>> Is it interesting for both loopers and "normal" people?
>> I=C2=B4m thinking about buying a ticket for me and my wife, but
>> not sure if it=C2=B4s something for both of us.
>> I read on Metheny=C2=B4s website that it=C2=B4s a solo-performance
>> using devices to replace other instruments, which sounds
>> to me like he=C2=B4s been using kind of a looping device.
>> Certainly a custom made device built especially for Metheny...
>> Anyone there who knows more about it?
>> Best,
>> Christo
>> www.christojota.de
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> -George
>
> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
>
>
>

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<div>LOL - a VG-99 instead of all that would spare him some touring costs! =
;-)</div><br clear=3D"all">Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.per=
boysen.com">www.perboysen.com</a><br>

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Matthia=
s Grob <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com">matilis=
ts@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">this video came out today:<div><a href=
=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&amp;feature=3Dplayer_embed=
ded" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&amp;fea=
ture=3Dplayer_embedded</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>it shows pretty much what you say: control physical ins=
truments by MIDI, probably partly the guitar and mostly a sequencer.</div><=
div>I dont see it much related to looping</div><div>and I dont quite unders=
tand the point:=C2=A0</div>
<div>it must be great to be in the Orchestrion and hear it all directly, bu=
t it still will not be better than a band (except that the robots may play =
quicker and more exactly than players)</div><div>for the concert, he probab=
ly will have to amplify it all as usual so it will sound a little more aliv=
e than from a sampler (since each trigger is a real new note and not the sa=
me sample repeated), but also maintains all the problems of transport, spac=
e, amplification, mixing... just saving the musicians really...</div>
<div><br><div><div>On 15 Dec 2009, at 21:32, George Ludwig wrote:</div><br>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>I haven&#39;t seen it, but thanks for mentio=
ning it. I just bought two tickets. :)</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>My impr=
ession is that he is using MIDI (or some other control protocol) to trigger=
 physical orchestral instruments to accompany him. I&#39;m such a Metheny f=
an, I&#39;ve got to see it no matter what...</div>
 <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>-George<br><br></div> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
 Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Christo Jota <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de" target=3D"_blank">chris@christojota.de</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
 <blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;p=
adding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"> <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"> <div><fon=
t size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Hi,</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"=
Arial">did anyone see Pat Metheny on his Orchestrion-Tour ?</font></div>
 <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Is it interesting for both loopers an=
d &quot;normal&quot; people?</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Ari=
al">I=C2=B4m thinking about buying a ticket for me and my wife, but</font><=
/div> <div>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">not sure if it=C2=B4s something for both of=
 us.</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I read on Metheny=C2=
=B4s website that it=C2=B4s a solo-performance</font></div> <div><font size=
=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">using devices to replace other instruments, which sou=
nds</font></div>
 <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">to me like he=C2=B4s been using kind =
of a looping device. </font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Cer=
tainly a custom made device built especially for Metheny...</font></div> <d=
iv><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Anyone there who knows more about it?</f=
ont></div>
 <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Best,</font></div> <div><font size=3D=
"2" face=3D"Arial">Christo</font></div> <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial=
"><a href=3D"http://www.christojota.de/" target=3D"_blank">www.christojota.=
de</a></font></div>
 <div>=C2=A0</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br=
>-George<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic</a><br></blockquote></=
div><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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Caught an interview with Mr Metheny about this very subject on the BBC this morning. You can hear it here: 
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/> and click on the WEDNESDAY programme. (Our broadcast here in the US is a day behind...).

Also, the Tuesday programme featured an excellent analysis/celebration of John Coltrane's 'Giant Steps' album; it's at the very end, like the last five minutes.

-t-

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The video work is much less complicated then it might look. I just =
bought 5 of these cheap $100,- cameras from Toshiba (which shows I'd =
say) and did all the momevement and lots of color correction on the end =
in Final Cut Pro. But it does give a nice look. You should watch the =
Bjork movies I did @ www.reyn.vs.reyn.net, you'll see a better example =
of it.

Cheers,

Reyn

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On Jan 7, 2010, at 2:03 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

> Very nice piano and looping.  Was the camera work done later?
>=20
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Todd Chambeau" <tchambeau@comcast.net>
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>> Reyn,
>> Wow. That was outstanding!!!! Not just the piece, but the sound  =
quality. The drum sound would even make Nick Mason proud.
>> Keep up the good work.
>> Todd
>> www.youtube.com/tchambeau
>> On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>>=20
>>> A bit of an old movie from a couple of months ago, but I hope you  =
guys can enjoy it..
>>>=20
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DF5xNMnGAMSs
>>>=20
>>> Cheers,
>>>=20
>>> Reyn
>>>=20
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>>> www.reyn.vs.reyn.net
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Hi,

I just updated our podcast
http://feeds.feedburner.com/FreeMusicFromDarkroom

with some good ol' ambient guitar looping, Darkroom style - which
means one man on guitar, the other on looping duties:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FreeMusicFromDarkroom/~5/mxP5bWShYQU/beartime20091230pt1.mp3


Enjoy!


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i would have preferred the guitar was played by a robot too ... far more
interesting :-)

2010/1/7 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> LOL - a VG-99 instead of all that would spare him some touring costs! ;-)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com>wrote=
:
>
>> this video came out today:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&feature=3Dplayer_embedded
>>
>> it shows pretty much what you say: control physical instruments by MIDI,
>> probably partly the guitar and mostly a sequencer.
>> I dont see it much related to looping
>> and I dont quite understand the point:
>> it must be great to be in the Orchestrion and hear it all directly, but =
it
>> still will not be better than a band (except that the robots may play
>> quicker and more exactly than players)
>> for the concert, he probably will have to amplify it all as usual so it
>> will sound a little more alive than from a sampler (since each trigger i=
s a
>> real new note and not the same sample repeated), but also maintains all =
the
>> problems of transport, space, amplification, mixing... just saving the
>> musicians really...
>>
>> On 15 Dec 2009, at 21:32, George Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I haven't seen it, but thanks for mentioning it. I just bought two
>> tickets. :)
>>
>> My impression is that he is using MIDI (or some other control protocol) =
to
>> trigger physical orchestral instruments to accompany him. I'm such a Met=
heny
>> fan, I've got to see it no matter what...
>>
>> -George
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Christo Jota <chris@christojota.de>wrot=
e:
>>
>>>  Hi,
>>> did anyone see Pat Metheny on his Orchestrion-Tour ?
>>> Is it interesting for both loopers and "normal" people?
>>> I=B4m thinking about buying a ticket for me and my wife, but
>>>  not sure if it=B4s something for both of us.
>>> I read on Metheny=B4s website that it=B4s a solo-performance
>>> using devices to replace other instruments, which sounds
>>> to me like he=B4s been using kind of a looping device.
>>> Certainly a custom made device built especially for Metheny...
>>> Anyone there who knows more about it?
>>> Best,
>>> Christo
>>> www.christojota.de
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -George
>>
>> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
>>
>>
>>
>


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i would have preferred the guitar was played by a robot too ... far more in=
teresting :-)<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/7 Per Boysen <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>LOL - a VG-9=
9 instead of all that would spare him some touring costs! ;-)</div><br clea=
r=3D"all">
Greetings from Sweden<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=
=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D=
"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a></font><d=
iv><div>
</div><div class=3D"h5"><br>

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Matthia=
s Grob <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">matilists@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin=
: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;">this video came out today:<div><a hre=
f=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&amp;feature=3Dplayer_embe=
dded" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&amp;fe=
ature=3Dplayer_embedded</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>it shows pretty much what you say: control physical ins=
truments by MIDI, probably partly the guitar and mostly a sequencer.</div><=
div>I dont see it much related to looping</div><div>and I dont quite unders=
tand the point:=A0</div>

<div>it must be great to be in the Orchestrion and hear it all directly, bu=
t it still will not be better than a band (except that the robots may play =
quicker and more exactly than players)</div><div>for the concert, he probab=
ly will have to amplify it all as usual so it will sound a little more aliv=
e than from a sampler (since each trigger is a real new note and not the sa=
me sample repeated), but also maintains all the problems of transport, spac=
e, amplification, mixing... just saving the musicians really...</div>

<div><br><div><div>On 15 Dec 2009, at 21:32, George Ludwig wrote:</div><br>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>I haven&#39;t seen it, but thanks for mentio=
ning it. I just bought two tickets. :)</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>My impress=
ion is that he is using MIDI (or some other control protocol) to trigger ph=
ysical orchestral instruments to accompany him. I&#39;m such a Metheny fan,=
 I&#39;ve got to see it no matter what...</div>

 <div>=A0</div> <div>-George<br><br></div> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Su=
n, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Christo Jota <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:chris@christojota.de" target=3D"_blank">chris@christojota.de</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br>

 <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote"> <div bgcolor=3D=
"#ffffff"> <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hi,</font></div> <div><font=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">did anyone see Pat Metheny on his Orchestrion-To=
ur ?</font></div>

 <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Is it interesting for both loopers an=
d &quot;normal&quot; people?</font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D=
"2">I=B4m thinking about buying a ticket for me and my wife, but</font></di=
v> <div>

<font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">not sure if it=B4s something for both of us=
.</font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I read on Metheny=B4s w=
ebsite that it=B4s a solo-performance</font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial=
" size=3D"2">using devices to replace other instruments, which sounds</font=
></div>

 <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">to me like he=B4s been using kind of =
a looping device. </font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Certai=
nly a custom made device built especially for Metheny...</font></div> <div>=
<font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Anyone there who knows more about it?</font=
></div>

 <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Best,</font></div> <div><font face=3D=
"Arial" size=3D"2">Christo</font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2=
"><a href=3D"http://www.christojota.de/" target=3D"_blank">www.christojota.=
de</a></font></div>

 <div>=A0</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-G=
eorge<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic" target=3D=
"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic</a><br></blockquote></div=
><br>

</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell=
 at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.b=
logspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collecti=
ve.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
<br>

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Reading about Zoe Keating and Loop!Station (Robin Coomer and Sam Bass)'s 
upcoming performance with Matmos
for the 75th Anniverary of the SFMOMA in San Francisco  and Steve 
Ucello's upcoming performance
on KPIG made me really happy for our whole community.

The first event is a tremendous honor given out by the museum and to
have, not one, but two artists who prominently use live looping on the 
bill really says a
lot for a mode of performing that was relatively unknown only 10 years ago.

KPIG,  is largest internet station by listernship
on the planet, which speaks for itself.

Contratulations to Zoe, Robin, Sam and Steve!!!!!
Thanks for your music and thanks for representin'

Rick Walker

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i got my korg mini-kaoss pad, and wow, its a fun little box. need to reconf=
igure my pedals, my area is a mess, i think i need to get some better small=
er cables, but other than that, the mini-kp is a whacky-little techno devic=
e, was doing a lot of one handed playing of guitar and scrolling through pr=
esets and manipulating it-just some fun stuff, need to dive into it a bit m=
ore. i do notice some signal drop, actually my signal sounds cleaner-sort o=
f removes my distorto guitar sounds, but i think i still need to configure =
it better.yes, memorizing the 100 presets will take some time, but it remin=
ds me of the fun i had w/ my old alessis ineko-except that the mini-KP work=
s (my ineko was semi-broken-no fun!)
=A0
was also watching one of my videos i made a YEAR ago and never delivered to=
 our local Public access tv (can't believe a yr went by) so was watching it=
 to see if it was worth dropping off, and wow, i was using/playing w/ my ol=
d ibanez DE7 like crazy-it could do that time stretch (fast to slow, slow t=
o fast) w/ it's delays quite well, so watching the vid made me miss it a bi=
t & wonder why i sold it, ug. oh well, look ahead i guess...
happy looping.
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen=0A=0A=0A      
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>i got my korg mini-kaoss pad, and wow, i=
ts a fun little box. need to reconfigure my pedals, my area is a mess, i th=
ink i need to get some better smaller cables, but other than that, the mini=
-kp is a whacky-little techno device, was doing a lot of one handed playing=
 of guitar and scrolling through presets and manipulating it-just some fun =
stuff, need to dive into it a bit more. i do notice some signal drop, actua=
lly my signal sounds cleaner-sort of removes my distorto guitar sounds, but=
 i think i still need to configure it better.yes, memorizing the 100 preset=
s will take some time, but it reminds me of the fun i had w/ my old alessis=
 ineko-except that the mini-KP works (my ineko was semi-broken-no fun!)</DI=
V>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>was also watching one of my videos i made a YEAR ago and never deliver=
ed to our local Public access tv (can't believe a yr went by) so was watchi=
ng it to see if it was worth dropping off, and wow, i was using/playing w/ =
my old ibanez DE7 like crazy-it could do that time stretch (fast to slow, s=
low to fast) w/ it's delays quite well, so watching the vid made me miss it=
 a bit &amp; wonder why i sold it, ug. oh well, look ahead i guess...</DIV>
<DIV>happy looping.</DIV>
<DIV>s---</DIV>
<DIV>www.myspace.com/scotthansen</DIV></td></tr></table><br>=0A=0A      
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Hello all - sorry for my whoring post here, but I am getting ready to attend
Grad School and need to purchase some materials for classes.

Thus:


EH Bass Synth 121.05 obo with scratches

SIB Mr. Echo nice and clean $ 90.23 obo usd

Ibanez AD9 delay 90.02usd obo

Nord Modular G1 super clean in great shape: $625.62 usd

I am open to trades that involve 4x5 field cameras  or other large or medium
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Hello all - sorry for my whoring post here, but I am getting ready to atten=
d Grad School and need to purchase some materials for classes. <br><br>Thus=
:<br><br><br>EH Bass Synth 121.05 obo with scratches<br><br>SIB Mr. Echo ni=
ce and clean $ 90.23 obo usd<br>

<br>Ibanez AD9 delay 90.02usd obo<br><br>Nord Modular G1 super clean in gre=
at shape: $625.62 usd<br><br>I am open to trades that involve 4x5 field cam=
eras=A0 or other large or medium format photographic gear.<br><br>feel free=
 to contact me off list if any of this twists your biscuits.<br>

<br>thanks!<br><br>c.<br><br><br><br><a href=3D"http://sound.com/magicicada=
">http://sound.com/magicicada</a><br><a href=3D"http://magicicada.com">http=
://magicicada.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://myspace.com/magicicada">http://m=
yspace.com/magicicada</a><br>

<br><br>

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On Jan 7, 2010, at 6:49 PM, scott hansen wrote:

> i got my korg mini-kaoss pad, and wow, its a fun little box. need to =
reconfigure my pedals, my area is a mess, i think i need to get some =
better smaller cables, but other than that, the mini-kp is a =
whacky-little techno device, was doing a lot of one handed playing of =
guitar and scrolling through presets and manipulating it-just some fun =
stuff, need to dive into it a bit more. i do notice some signal drop, =
actually my signal sounds cleaner-sort of removes my distorto guitar =
sounds, but i think i still need to configure it better.yes, memorizing =
the 100 presets will take some time, but it reminds me of the fun i had =
w/ my old alessis ineko-except that the mini-KP works (my ineko was =
semi-broken-no fun!)
> =20
> ...
> s---
> www.myspace.com/scotthansen
>=20


Scott,

I had a mini-KP and now a KP-3. With both units I get the best results =
by putting the unit in the effects loop of my POD X3 Pro and tweaking =
the send and return levels to get the same volume when I drop the =
effects loop in and out. Just takes a moment to dial it in. With that =
approach my signal is clean, much better for me than in line. I'm sure =
other folks have other configs that work great, too. This approach works =
for me. As always, your mileage may vary.

All the best,

Loren Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music
www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there




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"><br><div><div>On Jan 7, 2010, at 6:49 PM, scott hansen wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><table =
cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" style=3D"position: =
static; z-index: auto; "><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font: =
inherit;"><div>i got my korg mini-kaoss pad, and wow, its a fun little =
box. need to reconfigure my pedals, my area is a mess, i think i need to =
get some better smaller cables, but other than that, the mini-kp is a =
whacky-little techno device, was doing a lot of one handed playing of =
guitar and scrolling through presets and manipulating it-just some fun =
stuff, need to dive into it a bit more. i do notice some signal drop, =
actually my signal sounds cleaner-sort of removes my distorto guitar =
sounds, but i think i still need to configure it better.yes, memorizing =
the 100 presets will take some time, but it reminds me of the fun i had =
w/ my old alessis ineko-except that the mini-KP works (my ineko was =
semi-broken-no fun!)</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>...</div>
<div>s---</div>
<div><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/scotthansen">www.myspace.com/scotthansen</a=
></div></td></tr></tbody></table><br>

      =
</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Scott,</div><div><br></div><div>I =
had a mini-KP and now a KP-3. With both units I get the best results by =
putting the unit in the effects loop of my POD X3 Pro and tweaking the =
send and return levels to get the same volume when I drop the effects =
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didn't zappa already do this, at least as far as automating everything?
jazz from hell is all synclavier.  anyhow, to me it sounds like pmg played
by robots.

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didn&#39;t zappa already do this, at least as far as automating everything?=
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... yes. take a look when the robot hits the conga ...  it's lifeless.

2010/1/8 james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com>

> didn't zappa already do this, at least as far as automating everything?
> jazz from hell is all synclavier.  anyhow, to me it sounds like pmg played
> by robots.
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<br>- jim<br>
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Howdy,
 Go to "THE HOUSE ON THE ROCK"!!! North of Dodgeville , Wisconsin. You will=
 see A BUNCH of REAL orchestrions. They run the mechanisms, but roll a tape=
 of what they would sound like if someone had the time to keep ALL the inst=
ruments in tune. It really is a sight to behold. a whole mechanical orchest=
ra, controlled pneumatically,(I believe they used steam power back in the d=
ay) all running with the music playing along. There is 4 or 5 of them there=
. Along with tons of other oddities. It is really worth the journey. I don'=
t know of any place else that has all these things. Along with a bunch of o=
ther strange mechanical music machines.
Rig

--- On Thu, 1/7/10, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Metheny - The Orchestrion Tour
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 7:05 PM
> didn't zappa already do this, at least
> as far as automating everything?=A0 jazz from hell is all
> synclavier.=A0 anyhow, to me it sounds like pmg played by
> robots.
>=20
> - jim
>=20
> =0A=0A=0A      

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scott hansen schrieb:
> i got my korg mini-kaoss pad, and wow, its a fun little box. need to 
> reconfigure my pedals, my area is a mess, i think i need to get some 
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Thanks for the link, Matthias.
The Orchestrion-project on stage could sound a bit too clean, I=B4m =
afraid. Too perfect, you know what I mean.
not sure if I go there. Maybe I will get a ticket as a birthday gift,but =
probably wouldn=B4t buy it personally.
On the youtube video Metheney looks now like Mel Gibson in Braveheart, =
doesn=B4t he?

By the way, Matthias, may I and if so, how can I contribute my new video =
to your
website with examples of loop music? The soundtrack is
a live recording using my loop-station. As I remember no overdubs being =
made. Just edited, mixed.
Best,
Christo

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Matthias Grob=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Cc: Gini Zambelli=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Metheny - The Orchestrion Tour


  this video came out today:=20
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&feature=3Dplayer_embedded


  it shows pretty much what you say: control physical instruments by =
MIDI, probably partly the guitar and mostly a sequencer.
  I dont see it much related to looping
  and I dont quite understand the point:=20
  it must be great to be in the Orchestrion and hear it all directly, =
but it still will not be better than a band (except that the robots may =
play quicker and more exactly than players)
  for the concert, he probably will have to amplify it all as usual so =
it will sound a little more alive than from a sampler (since each =
trigger is a real new note and not the same sample repeated), but also =
maintains all the problems of transport, space, amplification, mixing... =
just saving the musicians really...


  On 15 Dec 2009, at 21:32, George Ludwig wrote:


    I haven't seen it, but thanks for mentioning it. I just bought two =
tickets. :)

    My impression is that he is using MIDI (or some other control =
protocol) to trigger physical orchestral instruments to accompany him. =
I'm such a Metheny fan, I've got to see it no matter what...

    -George


    On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Christo Jota <chris@christojota.de> =
wrote:

      Hi,
      did anyone see Pat Metheny on his Orchestrion-Tour ?
      Is it interesting for both loopers and "normal" people?
      I=B4m thinking about buying a ticket for me and my wife, but
      not sure if it=B4s something for both of us.
      I read on Metheny=B4s website that it=B4s a solo-performance
      using devices to replace other instruments, which sounds
      to me like he=B4s been using kind of a looping device.=20
      Certainly a custom made device built especially for Metheny...
      Anyone there who knows more about it?
      Best,
      Christo
      www.christojota.de




    --=20
    -George

    http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the link, =
Matthias.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The Orchestrion-project on stage could =
sound a bit=20
too clean, I=B4m afraid. Too perfect, you know what I mean.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>not sure if I go there. Maybe I =
will&nbsp;get a=20
ticket as a birthday gift,</FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>but =
probably wouldn=B4t=20
buy it personally.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>On the youtube video Metheney looks now =
like Mel=20
Gibson in Braveheart, doesn=B4t he?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>By the way, Matthias,&nbsp;may I and if =
so, how can=20
I contribute my new video to your</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>website with examples of loop music? =
The soundtrack=20
is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>a live recording using my loop-station. =
As I=20
remember no overdubs being made. Just edited, mixed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Christo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <A title=3Dmatilists@gmail.com =
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  Grob</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 07, =
2010 10:16=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Metheny - The =
Orchestrion=20
  Tour</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>this video came out today:=20
  <DIV><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&amp;feature=3Dplayer=
_embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhIZ2Ldrr5ok&amp;feature=3Dpla=
yer_embedded</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>it shows pretty much what you say: control physical instruments =
by MIDI,=20
  probably partly the guitar and mostly a sequencer.</DIV>
  <DIV>I dont see it much related to looping</DIV>
  <DIV>and I dont quite understand the point:&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>it must be great to be in the Orchestrion and hear it all =
directly, but=20
  it still will not be better than a band (except that the robots may =
play=20
  quicker and more exactly than players)</DIV>
  <DIV>for the concert, he probably will have to amplify it all as usual =
so it=20
  will sound a little more alive than from a sampler (since each trigger =
is a=20
  real new note and not the same sample repeated), but also maintains =
all the=20
  problems of transport, space, amplification, mixing... just saving the =

  musicians really...</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>On 15 Dec 2009, at 21:32, George Ludwig wrote:</DIV><BR=20
  class=3DApple-interchange-newline>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
    <DIV>I haven't seen it, but thanks for mentioning it. I just bought =
two=20
    tickets. :)</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>My impression is that he is using MIDI (or some other control =
protocol)=20
    to trigger physical orchestral instruments to accompany him. I'm =
such a=20
    Metheny fan, I've got to see it no matter what...</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>-George<BR><BR></DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Christo =
Jota <SPAN=20
    dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de">chris@christojota.de</A>&gt;</SPAN> =

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      <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
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loopers and=20
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both of=20
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instruments,=20
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      <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Certainly a custom made device =
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I'm just getting my feet wet with Ableton Live 8, and I wanted to pass on
these videos by Gavin Castleton that convinced me to leave my old RC-20 and
go laptop loop-style!

Sledgehammer (Peter Gabriel cover):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCtGNX9JHOE

Nothing Compares 2 U (Prince cover): http://www.vimeo.com/2762672

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I&#39;m just getting my feet wet with Ableton Live 8, and I wanted to pass =
on these videos by Gavin Castleton that convinced me to leave my old RC-20 =
and go laptop loop-style!<br><br>Sledgehammer (Peter Gabriel cover): <a hre=
f=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeCtGNX9JHOE">http://www.youtube.com/w=
atch?v=3DeCtGNX9JHOE</a><br>
<br>Nothing Compares 2 U (Prince cover): <a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/27=
62672">http://www.vimeo.com/2762672</a><br><br>these gave me some great ide=
as, I&#39;ve subscribed to this list in hopes of finding a whole lot more!<=
br>
<br>-Grant<br><br>

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Talented guy. I just can never make my mind up about "beatboxing". Is  
it silly or is it cool? It always sounds like a guy spitting into a mic.

Sent from my iPod

On Jan 8, 2010, at 7:15 AM, Grant Viscus <grantviscus@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm just getting my feet wet with Ableton Live 8, and I wanted to  
> pass on these videos by Gavin Castleton that convinced me to leave  
> my old RC-20 and go laptop loop-style!
>
> Sledgehammer (Peter Gabriel cover): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCtGNX9JHOE
>
> Nothing Compares 2 U (Prince cover): http://www.vimeo.com/2762672
>
> these gave me some great ideas, I've subscribed to this list in  
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>
> -Grant
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<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Talented guy. I just can never make my mind up about "beatboxing". Is it silly or is it cool? It always sounds like a guy spitting into a mic.&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my iPod</div><div><br>On Jan 8, 2010, at 7:15 AM, Grant Viscus &lt;<a href="mailto:grantviscus@gmail.com">grantviscus@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I'm just getting my feet wet with Ableton Live 8, and I wanted to pass on these videos by Gavin Castleton that convinced me to leave my old RC-20 and go laptop loop-style!<br><br>Sledgehammer (Peter Gabriel cover): <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCtGNX9JHOE"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCtGNX9JHOE">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCtGNX9JHOE</a></a><br>
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Chris Sewell sez:
> Talented guy. I just can never make my mind up about "beatboxing". Is 
> it silly or is it cool? It always sounds like a guy spitting into a mic.
Not always.
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I took Stravinsky's Les Noces and looped it thru the KP3 and tweaked the li=
ving shit out of it. Sounds much better now.

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> Date: Fri=2C 8 Jan 2010 10:56:29 +0100
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> > whacky-little techno device=2C was doing a lot of one handed playing of=
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> > stuff=2C need to dive into it a bit more. i do notice some signal
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Found these music links on ambientmusicblog.com
http://hibernate-recs.com/hb07-hakobune/
This is from the Japanes guitarist Hakobune.
Sonic landscapes, wall of guitar layers. Great!

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On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:26 PM,  <chris@christojota.de> wrote:
> Found these music links on ambientmusicblog.com
> http://hibernate-recs.com/hb07-hakobune/
> This is from the Japanes guitarist Hakobune.
> Sonic landscapes, wall of guitar layers. Great!
>
> This is my favourite, great soundscapes, the perfect soundtrack=C2=A0for =
your
> imagination watching the nice
> cover of his CD;=C2=A0by Rob Bridgett. Listen to ARC 01 !
> http://robbridgett.bandcamp.com/album/arc


Nice listening! I also like a lot of the stations at http://somafm.com/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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pushes the=A0signal a bit more. and i think i've solved the problem. i do l=
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boss) and think it's pretty cool. i know some people said that this is a dj=
/groove effect -could someone tell me what hardware samplers/gear this is o=
n/available? is it just the high end stuff (mpc's?). just curious??? is it =
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>thanks for the advice on my mini kaoss pad-i don't have an effects loo=
p option, but i put it inbetween my zoom g2 and my digitech rp150, so the r=
p150 pushes the&nbsp;signal a bit more. and i think i've solved the problem=
. i do like the sounds it gets for sure. certainly wacky stuff...</DIV>
<DIV>happy looping ...</DIV>
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On Jan 8, 2010, at 8:31 PM, scott hansen wrote:

> i've been looking at the slicer effect (boss) and think it's pretty =
cool. i know some people said that this is a dj/groove effect -could =
someone tell me what hardware samplers/gear this is on/available? is it =
just the high end stuff (mpc's?). just curious??? is it on the korg =
electribe units??
> =20
> thanks for the advice on my mini kaoss pad-i don't have an effects =
loop option, but i put it inbetween my zoom g2 and my digitech rp150, so =
the rp150 pushes the signal a bit more. and i think i've solved the =
problem. i do like the sounds it gets for sure. certainly wacky stuff...
> happy looping ...
> s---
> www.myspace.com/scotthansen
>=20

Scott, there are four slicer effects in your mini-KP -  Slicer, Mid =
Slicer, Slicer & LPF, Slicer & HPF. You don't have all of the rhythmic =
patters of the boss unit, but you can control tempo. depth, etc. I also =
have a Boss SP-303 that has slicer capabilities with different rhythms. =
On the plug-in side I'm running the Soundtoys Native Effects bundle =
which includes the Tremolator that allows for slicing.=20

All the best,

Loren Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jan 8, 2010, at 8:31 PM, scott hansen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="position: static; z-index: auto; "><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>i've been looking at the slicer effect (boss) and think it's pretty cool. i know some people said that this is a dj/groove effect -could someone tell me what hardware samplers/gear this is on/available? is it just the high end stuff (mpc's?). just curious??? is it on the korg electribe units??</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>thanks for the advice on my mini kaoss pad-i don't have an effects loop option, but i put it inbetween my zoom g2 and my digitech rp150, so the rp150 pushes the&nbsp;signal a bit more. and i think i've solved the problem. i do like the sounds it gets for sure. certainly wacky stuff...</div>
<div>happy looping ...</div>
<div>s---</div>
<div><a href="http://www.myspace.com/scotthansen">www.myspace.com/scotthansen</a></div></td></tr></tbody></table><br>

      </blockquote><br></div><div>Scott, there are four slicer effects in your mini-KP -&nbsp; Slicer, Mid Slicer, Slicer &amp; LPF, Slicer &amp; HPF. You don't have all of the rhythmic patters of the boss unit, but you can control tempo. depth, etc. I also have a Boss SP-303 that has slicer capabilities with different rhythms. On the plug-in side I'm running the&nbsp;Soundtoys Native Effects bundle which includes the Tremolator that allows for slicing.&nbsp;</div><br><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><div>All the best,</div><div><br></div><div>Loren Claypool</div><div>genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music</div><div><a href="http://www.lorenclaypool.com">www.lorenclaypool.com</a> and links from there</div></div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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Sorry, forgot the reply to!

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Loren Claypool <looper@theclaypools.com>
> Date: January 8, 2010 9:38:50 PM CST
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: slicer effect?/mini kaoss pad
>=20
>=20
> On Jan 8, 2010, at 8:31 PM, scott hansen wrote:
>=20
>> i've been looking at the slicer effect (boss) and think it's pretty =
cool. i know some people said that this is a dj/groove effect -could =
someone tell me what hardware samplers/gear this is on/available? is it =
just the high end stuff (mpc's?). just curious??? is it on the korg =
electribe units??
>> =20
>> thanks for the advice on my mini kaoss pad-i don't have an effects =
loop option, but i put it inbetween my zoom g2 and my digitech rp150, so =
the rp150 pushes the signal a bit more. and i think i've solved the =
problem. i do like the sounds it gets for sure. certainly wacky stuff...
>> happy looping ...
>> s---
>> www.myspace.com/scotthansen
>>=20
>=20
> Scott, there are four slicer effects in your mini-KP -  Slicer, Mid =
Slicer, Slicer & LPF, Slicer & HPF. You don't have all of the rhythmic =
patters of the boss unit, but you can control tempo. depth, etc. I also =
have a Boss SP-303 that has slicer capabilities with different rhythms. =
On the plug-in side I'm running the Soundtoys Native Effects bundle =
which includes the Tremolator that allows for slicing.=20
>=20
> All the best,
>=20
> Loren Claypool
> genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music
> www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there
>=20
>=20
>=20

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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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">Sorry, forgot the reply to!<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded =
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1);"><b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">Loren Claypool &lt;<a =
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1);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;"><b>Re: slicer effect?/mini kaoss =
pad</b><br></span></div><br><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
"><br><div><div>On Jan 8, 2010, at 8:31 PM, scott hansen wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><table =
cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" style=3D"position: =
static; z-index: auto; "><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font: =
inherit;"><div>i've been looking at the slicer effect (boss) and think =
it's pretty cool. i know some people said that this is a dj/groove =
effect -could someone tell me what hardware samplers/gear this is =
on/available? is it just the high end stuff (mpc's?). just curious??? is =
it on the korg electribe units??</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>thanks for the advice on my mini kaoss pad-i don't have an effects =
loop option, but i put it inbetween my zoom g2 and my digitech rp150, so =
the rp150 pushes the&nbsp;signal a bit more. and i think i've solved the =
problem. i do like the sounds it gets for sure. certainly wacky =
stuff...</div>
<div>happy looping ...</div>
<div>s---</div>
<div><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/scotthansen">www.myspace.com/scotthansen</a=
></div></td></tr></tbody></table><br>

      </blockquote><br></div><div>Scott, there are four slicer effects =
in your mini-KP -&nbsp; Slicer, Mid Slicer, Slicer &amp; LPF, Slicer =
&amp; HPF. You don't have all of the rhythmic patters of the boss unit, =
but you can control tempo. depth, etc. I also have a Boss SP-303 that =
has slicer capabilities with different rhythms. On the plug-in side I'm =
running the&nbsp;Soundtoys Native Effects bundle which includes the =
Tremolator that allows for slicing.&nbsp;</div><br><div>
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div>All the =
best,</div><div><br></div><div>Loren =
Claypool</div><div>genre-indifferent instrumental guitar =
music</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.lorenclaypool.com/">www.lorenclaypool.com</a> and =
links from there</div></div><div><br></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
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color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><div>All the =
best,</div><div><br></div><div>Loren =
Claypool</div><div>genre-indifferent instrumental guitar =
music</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.lorenclaypool.com">www.lorenclaypool.com</a> and =
links from there</div></div><div><br></div></span><br =
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Im really happy with the Roland EF 303 (everything is 303 isnt it....  nealy
bought a house a few years ago.. wife said no.. to much building work.. and
I said.. but its number 303!) they still crop up on ebay, pretty cheap. its
mostly slicing type effects, but instead of slicing volume (and cutting) it
can also slice, pitch, reverb amount, distortion level, and any parameter
that the effect bank (16) has. There not too many memory slots, and has some
funny functionality (bugs) some wondeful GENIUS caperbilities are hidden in
obscure menus but its mainly a grab it and see box so who cares... the other
one of these i use, is a Red Sound Federation Pro... like gold dust now im
afraid.. both this things take up alot of room however, I have 2 rack
drawers for them.

But slicing is my most usual thing...

love it..


m

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:31 AM, scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> wrote:

> i've been looking at the slicer effect (boss) and think it's pretty cool. i
> know some people said that this is a dj/groove effect -could someone tell me
> what hardware samplers/gear this is on/available? is it just the high end
> stuff (mpc's?). just curious??? is it on the korg electribe units??
>
> thanks for the advice on my mini kaoss pad-i don't have an effects loop
> option, but i put it inbetween my zoom g2 and my digitech rp150, so the
> rp150 pushes the signal a bit more. and i think i've solved the problem. i
> do like the sounds it gets for sure. certainly wacky stuff...
> happy looping ...
> s---
> www.myspace.com/scotthansen
>
>


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Im really happy with the Roland EF 303 (everything is 303 isnt it....=A0 ne=
aly bought a house a few years ago.. wife said no.. to much building work..=
 and I said.. but its number 303!) they still crop up on ebay, pretty cheap=
. its mostly slicing type effects, but instead of slicing volume (and cutti=
ng) it can also slice, pitch, reverb amount, distortion level, and any para=
meter that the effect bank (16) has. There not too many memory slots, and h=
as some funny functionality (bugs) some wondeful GENIUS caperbilities are h=
idden in obscure menus but its mainly a grab it and see box so who cares...=
 the other one of these i use, is a Red Sound Federation Pro... like gold d=
ust now im afraid.. both this things take up alot of room however, I have 2=
 rack drawers for them.<br>

<br>But slicing is my most usual thing...<br><br>love it..<br><br><br>m<br>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:31 AM, scott hansen=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:evanpeewee@yahoo.com">evanpeewee@y=
ahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><table border=3D"=
0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td style=3D"font-family:=
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stretch: inherit;" valign=3D"top">

<div>i&#39;ve been looking at the slicer effect (boss) and think it&#39;s p=
retty cool. i know some people said that this is a dj/groove effect -could =
someone tell me what hardware samplers/gear this is on/available? is it jus=
t the high end stuff (mpc&#39;s?). just curious??? is it on the korg electr=
ibe units??</div>


<div>=A0</div>
<div>thanks for the advice on my mini kaoss pad-i don&#39;t have an effects=
 loop option, but i put it inbetween my zoom g2 and my digitech rp150, so t=
he rp150 pushes the=A0signal a bit more. and i think i&#39;ve solved the pr=
oblem. i do like the sounds it gets for sure. certainly wacky stuff...</div=
>


<div>happy looping ...</div>
<div>s---</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/scotthansen" target=3D"_blank">www.m=
yspace.com/scotthansen</a></div></td></tr></tbody></table><br>

      </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http:/=
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Check out the midi murf.
http://www.moogmusic.com/moogerfooger/?section=product&product_id=21339

Slicing by animating filter settings and you can edit your patterns on the
computer and save them to the pedal.  This thing looks wicked (anyone use
it?).
<http://www.moogmusic.com/moogerfooger/?section=product&product_id=21339>
Sylvain

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:05 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:

> Im really happy with the Roland EF 303 (everything is 303 isnt it....
> nealy bought a house a few years ago.. wife said no.. to much building
> work.. and I said.. but its number 303!) they still crop up on ebay, pretty
> cheap. its mostly slicing type effects, but instead of slicing volume (and
> cutting) it can also slice, pitch, reverb amount, distortion level, and any
> parameter that the effect bank (16) has. There not too many memory slots,
> and has some funny functionality (bugs) some wondeful GENIUS caperbilities
> are hidden in obscure menus but its mainly a grab it and see box so who
> cares... the other one of these i use, is a Red Sound Federation Pro... like
> gold dust now im afraid.. both this things take up alot of room however, I
> have 2 rack drawers for them.
>
> But slicing is my most usual thing...
>
> love it..
>
>
> m
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:31 AM, scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> i've been looking at the slicer effect (boss) and think it's pretty cool.
>> i know some people said that this is a dj/groove effect -could someone tell
>> me what hardware samplers/gear this is on/available? is it just the high end
>> stuff (mpc's?). just curious??? is it on the korg electribe units??
>>
>> thanks for the advice on my mini kaoss pad-i don't have an effects loop
>> option, but i put it inbetween my zoom g2 and my digitech rp150, so the
>> rp150 pushes the signal a bit more. and i think i've solved the problem. i
>> do like the sounds it gets for sure. certainly wacky stuff...
>> happy looping ...
>> s---
>> www.myspace.com/scotthansen
>>
>>
>
>
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> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch
>

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Check out the midi murf.<div><a href=3D"http://www.moogmusic.com/moogerfoog=
er/?section=3Dproduct&amp;product_id=3D21339">http://www.moogmusic.com/moog=
erfooger/?section=3Dproduct&amp;product_id=3D21339</a></div><div><br></div>=
<div>Slicing by animating filter settings and you can edit your patterns on=
 the computer and save them to the pedal. =A0This thing looks wicked (anyon=
e use it?).</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.moogmusic.com/moogerfooger/?section=3Dproduct&am=
p;product_id=3D21339"></a>Sylvain<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat,=
 Jan 9, 2010 at 3:05 AM, mark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Im really happy with the Roland EF 303 (eve=
rything is 303 isnt it....=A0 nealy bought a house a few years ago.. wife s=
aid no.. to much building work.. and I said.. but its number 303!) they sti=
ll crop up on ebay, pretty cheap. its mostly slicing type effects, but inst=
ead of slicing volume (and cutting) it can also slice, pitch, reverb amount=
, distortion level, and any parameter that the effect bank (16) has. There =
not too many memory slots, and has some funny functionality (bugs) some won=
deful GENIUS caperbilities are hidden in obscure menus but its mainly a gra=
b it and see box so who cares... the other one of these i use, is a Red Sou=
nd Federation Pro... like gold dust now im afraid.. both this things take u=
p alot of room however, I have 2 rack drawers for them.<br>


<br>But slicing is my most usual thing...<br><br>love it..<br><br><br>m<div=
><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Ja=
n 9, 2010 at 3:31 AM, scott hansen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
evanpeewee@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">evanpeewee@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><table border=3D"0" cel=
lpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td style=3D"font-family:inheri=
t;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:inh=
erit;line-height:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-stretch:inherit" val=
ign=3D"top">


<div>i&#39;ve been looking at the slicer effect (boss) and think it&#39;s p=
retty cool. i know some people said that this is a dj/groove effect -could =
someone tell me what hardware samplers/gear this is on/available? is it jus=
t the high end stuff (mpc&#39;s?). just curious??? is it on the korg electr=
ibe units??</div>



<div>=A0</div>
<div>thanks for the advice on my mini kaoss pad-i don&#39;t have an effects=
 loop option, but i put it inbetween my zoom g2 and my digitech rp150, so t=
he rp150 pushes the=A0signal a bit more. and i think i&#39;ve solved the pr=
oblem. i do like the sounds it gets for sure. certainly wacky stuff...</div=
>



<div>happy looping ...</div>
<div>s---</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/scotthansen" target=3D"_blank">www.m=
yspace.com/scotthansen</a></div></td></tr></tbody></table><br>

      </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div><font color=
=3D"#888888">-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">http=
://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/cat=
label.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no/sh=
op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch</a><br>



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scott hansen schrieb:
> i've been looking at the slicer effect (boss) and think it's pretty 
> cool. i know some people said that this is a dj/groove effect -could 
> someone tell me what hardware samplers/gear this is on/available? is 
> it just the high end stuff (mpc's?). just curious??? is it on the korg 
> electribe units??
>
I know that I'm repeating myself here, but the Nord Micromodular does a 
fantastic job on this - including self-programmable (and -recordable) 
patterns.

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this guy reminds me of Aogu Yoshida

you can listen and download some of his stuff here -
http://testtube.monocromatica.com/releases/tube023.htm (look for AO, on_14
and Mel)

and here - http://on14.sakura.ne.jp/

sim

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>  Found these music links on ambientmusicblog.com
> http://hibernate-recs.com/hb07-hakobune/
> This is from the Japanes guitarist Hakobune.
> Sonic landscapes, wall of guitar layers. Great!
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this guy reminds me of Aogu Yoshida<br><br>you can listen and download some=
 of his stuff here - <a href=3D"http://testtube.monocromatica.com/releases/=
tube023.htm">http://testtube.monocromatica.com/releases/tube023.htm</a> (lo=
ok for AO, on_14 and Mel)<br>
<br>and here - <a href=3D"http://on14.sakura.ne.jp/">http://on14.sakura.ne.=
jp/</a><br><br>sim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at=
 6:26 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de">ch=
ris@christojota.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">





<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Found these music links on=20
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com</a></font></div>
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Has anyone used Live 8 Intro?? Can it be used with mobius?? Thinking  
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 > Has anyone used Live 8 Intro?? Can it be used with mobius??

I haven't used Live 8 yet, but Mobius has been tested with
versions 4 through 7 and I don't expect any issues with 8.

I test with the "Live Lite" version often bundled with hardware.
It looks like Live Intro has more features than Lite so that
should be fine.

Jeff

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For those who have joined or been interested in the Eastern Loopers
networking group on Facebook which I put up basically but not limited, but
for those of us in the Eastern states who are working in the genre.  There
has been a bit of debate about the name as yes it was confusing.  I just
revised it to Eastern USA Loopers so hopefully that will be more
descriptive.  Though he's not here in the States Rainer did an excellent
ustream cast today that I unfortunately didn't catch live but have just
watched back.  I posted a blurb about that on the group page as felt it was
relatible news.

The point of this group I'll reiterate is to get some networking going here
in the east among us and hopefully make some energy for some festival and or
mini fest area performances.

Jim

the link is...

http://www.facebook.com/n/?group.php&gid=228256868467&mid=1b2e8aeG2d4e2dc8G3dbc0aaG40

-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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For those who have joined or been interested in the Eastern Loopers network=
ing group on Facebook which I put up basically but not limited, but for tho=
se of us in the Eastern states who are working in the genre.=A0 There has b=
een a bit of debate about the name as yes it was confusing.=A0 I just revis=
ed it to Eastern USA Loopers so hopefully that will be more descriptive.=A0=
 Though he&#39;s not here in the States Rainer did an excellent ustream cas=
t today that I unfortunately didn&#39;t catch live but have just watched ba=
ck.=A0 I posted a blurb about that on the group page as felt it was relatib=
le news.<br>
<br>The point of this group I&#39;ll reiterate is to get some networking go=
ing here in the east among us and hopefully make some energy for some festi=
val and or mini fest area performances.<br><br>Jim<br><br>the link is...<br=
>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/n/?group.php&amp;gid=3D228256868467&=
amp;mid=3D1b2e8aeG2d4e2dc8G3dbc0aaG40">http://www.facebook.com/n/?group.php=
&amp;gid=3D228256868467&amp;mid=3D1b2e8aeG2d4e2dc8G3dbc0aaG40</a><br clear=
=3D"all">
<br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.=
myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><=
a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br=
>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>

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Speaking of which, can anyone hook me up with a pass? I think I'll be in
L.A. that Saturday, and would love to drop in on the show!

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:08 PM, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:

> Anyone gonna be at NAMM?  I'll be there 14th and 15th.  Most likely I'll be
> hovering around PRS and/or Dangerous Music booths... and wandering.
>
> Love to hook up.  Send me a message off list.
>
> richard@glasswing.com
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>     richard sales
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Speaking of which, can anyone hook me up with a pass? I think I&#39;ll be i=
n L.A. that Saturday, and would love to drop in on the show!<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:08 PM, richard sales <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:richard@glasswing.com">richard@glassw=
ing.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word">Anyone gonna be at NAMM? =A0I&#39;ll b=
e there 14th and 15th. =A0Most likely I&#39;ll be hovering around PRS and/o=
r Dangerous Music booths... and wandering.=A0=20
<div><br></div>
<div>Love to hook up. =A0Send me a message off list.</div>
<div><br></div>
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sswing.com</a></div>
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My Name is Lona Gassama, Permit me to inform you of my desire of seeking your aid and assistance towards securing my consignment, Am placing this urgent matter to you because I want you to help me handle it with your matured knowledge, I have a Consignment that is presently in Toronto International Airport in Canada with a reliable delivery agent under United Nations.


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Sorry George. No more where ours came from.  And now double sorry I'm  
not staying through the weekend.

R

richard sales
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On Jan 9, 2010, at 1:33 PM, George Ludwig wrote:

> Speaking of which, can anyone hook me up with a pass? I think I'll  
> be in L.A. that Saturday, and would love to drop in on the show!
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:08 PM, richard sales  
> <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
> Anyone gonna be at NAMM?  I'll be there 14th and 15th.  Most likely  
> I'll be hovering around PRS and/or Dangerous Music booths... and  
> wandering.
>
> Love to hook up.  Send me a message off list.
>
> richard@glasswing.com
>
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.com
> www.richardsales.com
> www.hayleysales.com
> www.goodnaturefarms.com
>
>
>
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>
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>
> -- 
> -George
>
> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic


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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Jan 9, 2010, =
at 1:33 PM, George Ludwig wrote:</div><br =
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of which, can anyone hook me up with a pass? I think I'll be in L.A. =
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<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
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style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word">Anyone gonna be at NAMM? &nbsp;I'll be =
there 14th and 15th. &nbsp;Most likely I'll be hovering around PRS =
and/or Dangerous Music booths... and wandering.&nbsp; <div><br></div> =
<div>Love to hook up. &nbsp;Send me a message off list.</div> =
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Hi everyone,    Rick Walker here.

Happy New Years to you all!

I have a production client right now who wants to invest in a really good
traveling recording studio.

He wants to be able to record on both Windows and Mac OSX

Right now we are deciding  about the purchase of items for a suitcase 
recording studio
that is really high quality  and
I wondered if anyone can advise me on what to advise him.

Firstly,    We are looking at the RME Firewire 400 and the 800
*1st Question:     Do you think the RME firewire 800 is too bulky for 
international travel.

2nd Question:    Is there another firewire (or USB2)  breakout box that 
you particularly
like as an alternative?   Anything less expensive than the RME that is 
comparable in quality?
*

His HP Pavillion DV5000 laptop doesn't have a Firewire interface but
there is a firewire card that he and purchase for to connect this.

*3rd Question:   Is there any down size to using a firewire interface 
for this particular computer?

********
********
*Next,  we are looking at getting a pencil condenser microphone that 
would be the equivalent
of the Neumann KM184  or the KM150.

These are very pricey mics.     

*4th Question:  Are there any screaming deals in high quality pencil 
condenser microphones
that you know of that are not so pricey?     *I know that there are now 
a plethora of good quality
condensers on the market including a lot of really inexpensive ones made 
in Russia and Eastern Europe.

Lastly,   we have looked at this unit for a lighweight and compact 
headphone distribution amplifier


  Sound Devices HX-3 - 3 Channel Portable Headphone Amplifier     
  price  $379.00

*5th Question:    Does anyone know of an alternate to this headphone 
amplifier that might be less expensive
but do the trick?   It needs to be very portable and run on batteries.

*Thanks so very much for your advice.  I sooo appreciate the level of 
expertise on this list.

yours,   in the loop,

Rick Walker
www.y2kloopfest.com

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On Jan 9, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

> Hi everyone,    Rick Walker here.
>
> Happy New Years to you all!

Happiness, yes!
>
> He wants to be able to record on both Windows and Mac OSX
>
I would just do Mac.  But I know saying that is like standing up in  
the foxhole in a firefight... with sharp shooters.
>
> Firstly,    We are looking at the RME Firewire 400 and the 800
> *1st Question:     Do you think the RME firewire 800 is too bulky  
> for international travel.

If he or she doesn't need a lot of channels and if he/she wants REALLY  
immaculate stuff, this might be the one.  Pristine sound:

http://www.gracedesign.com/products/m201/m201.htm

Very high end mic pre and great converter in one box.  But it IS for  
very high end stuff.

Here's a less expensive version of the same thing.   Very high quality  
still.  Runs on batteries.  The ultimate in lightweight, affordable.

http://vintageking.com/Grace-Design-Lunatec-V3-Standard

Actually, I would go with that one.  $1525 and you can find it cheaper/ 
negotiate.  This is a good time to be buying audio stuff!

They make one with a Toslink/Lightpipe output! Same price. (Might need  
a toslink card for the computer??? Should be cheap)

Grace makes audiophile stuff.  Resale value will hold much better than  
other stuff because of its rep.

I'm sure this will smoke any RME converters.  And it's lighter, less  
bulky... and holds its value if not trashed.

They also have lightweight portable mic pres.  All Grace stuff is very  
high end, transparent etc.

>
> *Next,  we are looking at getting a pencil condenser microphone that  
> would be the equivalent
> of the Neumann KM184  or the KM150.

If he/she only wants to record one channel could go with one of the  
new Neumann mics with digital out.  Save a lot of weight (no converter  
RME, Lunatec etc needed).  Not cheap.  I've never really looked into  
it, or how it interfaces, but it seems like a cool idea.

Here's some cool pencil style mics with interchangable heads from the  
guy who created Royer Mic's.  Could find 'em cheaper

http://vintageking.com/Mojave-MA-100SP?sc=18&category=851

They're a bit cheaper than the KM 184.  I have a pair of KM 184 and  
like them okay.  Great for banjo.

These are decent.  Used on many big recordings.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/search.php?s=akg+451&go=Search

>
> These are very pricey mics.

My experience, and a lot of other folks' experience, is that the  
microphones are so important if you're doing acoustic recording.  In  
fact, I'm amazed at the difference.  At first it seems maybe subtle,  
but when you start mixing lots of mic'd elements together the quality  
really starts to shine through.  They just blend better.  Less crud.

I'd spend my money on a good mic and mic pre.  I think the Grace  
Lunatek, a couple nice mic's, maybe a Toslink card... and you're set  
to record very high quality stuff.  But then, if you're recording  
heavily processed music then it could be a different story.

The Chinese and Russian mics can be VERY good.  But you need to buy  
them through one of those guys that sorts through them and weeds out  
the dogs.  I'll try to remember the name of the one company I heard of  
that did that.

He should check out the videos with that guy who traveled around the  
world and did recordings of different folks working on the peace  
song.  Can't remember his name right now but saw a good documentary on  
him talking about portable recording.  I'll try to remember where I  
saw it.  Could have been through Mix Magazine (www.mixonline.com) or  
electronic musician online.

Come on down to NAMM and we can look together!  But I'm not there on  
the weekend

R

richard sales
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>
>
> yours,   in the loop,
>
> Rick Walker
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break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space; ">On Jan 9, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Rick Walker =
wrote:</div></span></div><div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Hi =
everyone, &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rick Walker here.<br><br>Happy New Years to =
you all!<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Happiness, =
yes!<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><br>He wants to be able to record =
on both Windows and Mac OSX<br><br></div></blockquote>I would just do =
Mac. &nbsp;But I know saying that is like standing up in the foxhole in =
a firefight... with sharp shooters.<br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><br>Firstly, &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We are looking at the =
RME Firewire 400 and the 800<br>*1st Question: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Do you think the RME firewire 800 is too bulky =
for international travel.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>If he or =
she doesn't need a lot of channels and if he/she wants REALLY immaculate =
stuff, this might be the one. &nbsp;Pristine =
sound:</div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.gracedesign.com/products/m201/m201.htm">http://www.grac=
edesign.com/products/m201/m201.htm</a></div><div><br></div><div>Very =
high end mic pre and great converter in one box. &nbsp;But it IS for =
very high end stuff.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><b>Here's a less =
expensive version of the same thing. &nbsp; Very high quality still. =
&nbsp;Runs on batteries. &nbsp;The ultimate in lightweight, =
affordable.</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b><a =
href=3D"http://vintageking.com/Grace-Design-Lunatec-V3-Standard">http://vi=
ntageking.com/Grace-Design-Lunatec-V3-Standard</a></b></div><div><b><br></=
b></div><div><b>Actually, I would go with that one. &nbsp;$1525 and you =
can find it cheaper/negotiate. &nbsp;This is a good time to be buying =
audio stuff!</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>They make one with a =
Toslink/Lightpipe output! Same price. (Might need a toslink card for the =
computer??? Should be =
cheap)</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>Grace makes audiophile =
stuff. &nbsp;Resale value will hold much better than other stuff because =
of its rep.&nbsp;</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-weight: bold; ">I'm sure this =
will smoke any RME converters. &nbsp;And it's lighter, less bulky... and =
holds its value if not trashed. =
&nbsp;</span></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>They also have =
lightweight portable mic pres.&nbsp;&nbsp;All Grace stuff is very high =
end, transparent etc.</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><br>*Next, &nbsp;we are looking at getting a pencil =
condenser microphone that would be the equivalent<br>of the Neumann =
KM184 &nbsp;or the KM150.<br></div></blockquote><br>If he/she only wants =
to record one channel could go with one of the new Neumann mics with =
digital out. &nbsp;Save a lot of weight (no converter RME, Lunatec etc =
needed). &nbsp;Not cheap. &nbsp;I've never really looked into it, or how =
it interfaces, but it seems like a cool =
idea.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Here's some cool pencil style mics =
with interchangable heads from the guy who created Royer Mic's. =
&nbsp;Could find 'em cheaper</div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://vintageking.com/Mojave-MA-100SP?sc=3D18&amp;category=3D851"=
>http://vintageking.com/Mojave-MA-100SP?sc=3D18&amp;category=3D851</a></di=
v><div><br></div><div>They're a bit cheaper than the KM 184. &nbsp;I =
have a pair of KM 184 and like them okay. &nbsp;Great for =
banjo.</div><div><br></div><div>These are decent. &nbsp;Used on many big =
recordings. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.sweetwater.com/store/search.php?s=3Dakg+451&amp;go=3DSe=
arch">http://www.sweetwater.com/store/search.php?s=3Dakg+451&amp;go=3DSear=
ch</a></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><br>These =
are very pricey mics. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>My =
experience, and a lot of other folks' experience, is that the =
microphones are so important if you're doing acoustic recording. =
&nbsp;In fact, I'm amazed at the difference. &nbsp;At first it seems =
maybe subtle, but when you start mixing lots of mic'd elements together =
the quality really starts to shine through. &nbsp;They just blend =
better. &nbsp;Less crud.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd spend my money on =
a good mic and mic pre. &nbsp;I think the Grace Lunatek, a couple nice =
mic's, maybe a Toslink card... and you're set to record very high =
quality stuff. &nbsp;But then, if you're recording heavily processed =
music then it could be a different story.</div><div><br></div><div>The =
Chinese and Russian mics can be VERY good. &nbsp;But you need to buy =
them through one of those guys that sorts through them and weeds out the =
dogs. &nbsp;I'll try to remember the name of the one company I heard of =
that did that.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>He should check out the =
videos with that guy who traveled around the world and did recordings of =
different folks working on the peace song. &nbsp;Can't remember his name =
right now but saw a good documentary on him talking about portable =
recording. &nbsp;I'll try to remember where I saw it. &nbsp;Could have =
been through Mix Magazine (<a =
href=3D"http://www.mixonline.com">www.mixonline.com</a>) or electronic =
musician online.</div><div><br></div><div>Come on down to NAMM and we =
can look together! &nbsp;But I'm not there on the =
weekend</div><div><br></div><div>R</div><div><br></div><div><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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face=3D"Arial">richard sales</font></div><div><font =
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<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
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Rick Walker here with some exciting live looping technology news:

I just wanted to everybody to know that* Bob Amdstadt *
will be unveiling his new *LP-2 MINI looper* at *NAMM *
next weekend in *Anaheim.
*
My brother *Bill Walker *and *I* will be demoing it (and the LP-1 
Looplerlative)
at the* Looperlative Booth.6244,  Hall A.*

We'll be *one booth off of the main artery *of the *NAMM show*, visible 
from the
main artery and* right across from KORG.*

I"m really excited to demo this unit.  It has a combined feature set 
never found in an inexpensive
floor model stomp box pedal before.

Here's why.

*LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:

*Midi Sync* * (in/out)   *
*Balanced *and *UnBalanced Inputs *(for microphones with tip/ring/sleeve 
jacks)
*20 db boost option on input*
*20+ levels of Undo*
*Feedback *(with automatic Undo points at every 10% reduction of feedback)
*Record/Overdub*
*Play/Stop*
*Retrigger (One Shot)*
*Retrigger (Play Continuously)*
*Forward/Reverse*
*1/2 Speed/Double Speed*
*1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed*
*Quantized Slice Replacement *at these musical increments:
*1/8, 1/16,  for 4/4*,    *1/12, 1/24    *for* triplet 8ths *and* 
triplet 16ths*
*1/7, 1/9, 1/10    for odd time signatures   * *
1/64 * for *glitching*
*Storage (and retrieval) *of up to* 8 loops *on a* 4 gig SD Card*
*Battery Operated* (one 9v battery for 2 hours continuous play)
*or** Wall Wart AC adapter
Compact Size
Snazzy Purple Color *<smile>

And all for an as yet undetermined street price of between $250 and  $300


We hope to see you all at *NAMM booth 6244  Hall A*.
Come check it out!
Bob will be there for the duration of the show.  
Bill and I will be there on Saturday and Sunday.

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That sounds like an amazing pedal!  I want one very badly I think.

Kevin

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Rick Walker here with some exciting live looping technology news:
>
> I just wanted to everybody to know that* Bob Amdstadt *
> will be unveiling his new *LP-2 MINI looper* at *NAMM *
> next weekend in *Anaheim.
> *
> My brother *Bill Walker *and *I* will be demoing it (and the LP-1
> Looplerlative)
> at the* Looperlative Booth.6244, =A0Hall A.*
>
> We'll be *one booth off of the main artery *of the *NAMM show*, visible f=
rom
> the
> main artery and* right across from KORG.*
>
> I"m really excited to demo this unit. =A0It has a combined feature set ne=
ver
> found in an inexpensive
> floor model stomp box pedal before.
>
> Here's why.
>
> *LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:
>
> *Midi Sync* * (in/out) =A0 *
> *Balanced *and *UnBalanced Inputs *(for microphones with tip/ring/sleeve
> jacks)
> *20 db boost option on input*
> *20+ levels of Undo*
> *Feedback *(with automatic Undo points at every 10% reduction of feedback=
)
> *Record/Overdub*
> *Play/Stop*
> *Retrigger (One Shot)*
> *Retrigger (Play Continuously)*
> *Forward/Reverse*
> *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*
> *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed*
> *Quantized Slice Replacement *at these musical increments:
> *1/8, 1/16, =A0for 4/4*, =A0 =A0*1/12, 1/24 =A0 =A0*for* triplet 8ths *an=
d* triplet
> 16ths*
> *1/7, 1/9, 1/10 =A0 =A0for odd time signatures =A0 * *
> 1/64 * for *glitching*
> *Storage (and retrieval) *of up to* 8 loops *on a* 4 gig SD Card*
> *Battery Operated* (one 9v battery for 2 hours continuous play)
> *or** Wall Wart AC adapter
> Compact Size
> Snazzy Purple Color *<smile>
>
> And all for an as yet undetermined street price of between $250 and =A0$3=
00
>
>
> We hope to see you all at *NAMM booth 6244 =A0Hall A*.
> Come check it out!
> Bob will be there for the duration of the show. =A0Bill and I will be the=
re on
> Saturday and Sunday.
>
>



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LOL!

awesome news re the birth of a new looping box


On Jan 9, 2010, at 10:39 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

> Snazzy Purple Color *<smile>

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> *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed*
> *Quantized Slice Replacement *at these musical increments:
> *1/8, 1/16,  for 4/4*,    *1/12, 1/24    *for* triplet 8ths *and* triplet
> 16ths*
> *1/7, 1/9, 1/10    for odd time signatures   * *
> 1/64 * for *glitching*

gimmme gimme gimme want want want

> Snazzy Purple Color *<smile>

PURPLE?????????????

Was this pedal made for ME , Rick?? I think Bob has read my wish list, and
implemented it... thats appropriation!!! therfore I feel completely within
my rights to DEMAND aLP2 immediately... OK Bob? OR I send the boys round...

... I=B4m waiting...

mark... drooling...



On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <kevin@minds-eye.org>w=
rote:

> That sounds like an amazing pedal!  I want one very badly I think.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> > Rick Walker here with some exciting live looping technology news:
> >
> > I just wanted to everybody to know that* Bob Amdstadt *
> > will be unveiling his new *LP-2 MINI looper* at *NAMM *
> > next weekend in *Anaheim.
> > *
> > My brother *Bill Walker *and *I* will be demoing it (and the LP-1
> > Looplerlative)
> > at the* Looperlative Booth.6244,  Hall A.*
> >
> > We'll be *one booth off of the main artery *of the *NAMM show*, visible
> from
> > the
> > main artery and* right across from KORG.*
> >
> > I"m really excited to demo this unit.  It has a combined feature set
> never
> > found in an inexpensive
> > floor model stomp box pedal before.
> >
> > Here's why.
> >
> > *LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:
> >
> > *Midi Sync* * (in/out)   *
> > *Balanced *and *UnBalanced Inputs *(for microphones with tip/ring/sleev=
e
> > jacks)
> > *20 db boost option on input*
> > *20+ levels of Undo*
> > *Feedback *(with automatic Undo points at every 10% reduction of
> feedback)
> > *Record/Overdub*
> > *Play/Stop*
> > *Retrigger (One Shot)*
> > *Retrigger (Play Continuously)*
> > *Forward/Reverse*
> > *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*
> > *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed*
> > *Quantized Slice Replacement *at these musical increments:
> > *1/8, 1/16,  for 4/4*,    *1/12, 1/24    *for* triplet 8ths *and* tripl=
et
> > 16ths*
> > *1/7, 1/9, 1/10    for odd time signatures   * *
> > 1/64 * for *glitching*
> > *Storage (and retrieval) *of up to* 8 loops *on a* 4 gig SD Card*
> > *Battery Operated* (one 9v battery for 2 hours continuous play)
> > *or** Wall Wart AC adapter
> > Compact Size
> > Snazzy Purple Color *<smile>
> >
> > And all for an as yet undetermined street price of between $250 and  $3=
00
> >
> >
> > We hope to see you all at *NAMM booth 6244  Hall A*.
> > Come check it out!
> > Bob will be there for the duration of the show.  Bill and I will be the=
re
> on
> > Saturday and Sunday.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble=
.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>
>


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&gt; *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed*<br>
&gt; *Quantized Slice Replacement *at these musical increments:<br>
&gt; *1/8, 1/16, =A0for 4/4*, =A0 =A0*1/12, 1/24 =A0 =A0*for* triplet 8ths =
*and* triplet<br>
&gt; 16ths*<br>
&gt; *1/7, 1/9, 1/10 =A0 =A0for odd time signatures =A0 * *<br>
&gt; 1/64 * for *glitching*<br><br>gimmme gimme gimme want want want<br><br=
>&gt; Snazzy Purple Color *&lt;smile&gt;<br><br>PURPLE?????????????<br><br>=
Was this pedal made for ME , Rick?? I think Bob has read my wish list, and =
implemented it... thats appropriation!!! therfore I feel completely within =
my rights to DEMAND aLP2 immediately... OK Bob? OR I send the boys round...=
<br>

<br>... I=B4m waiting...<br><br>mark... drooling...<br><br><br><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@minds-eye.org">kevin@minds-eye.o=
rg</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">That sounds like =
an amazing pedal! =A0I want one very badly I think.<br>
<br>
Kevin<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Rick Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool=
@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Rick Walker here with some exciting live looping technology news:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I just wanted to everybody to know that* Bob Amdstadt *<br>
&gt; will be unveiling his new *LP-2 MINI looper* at *NAMM *<br>
&gt; next weekend in *Anaheim.<br>
&gt; *<br>
&gt; My brother *Bill Walker *and *I* will be demoing it (and the LP-1<br>
&gt; Looplerlative)<br>
&gt; at the* Looperlative Booth.6244, =A0Hall A.*<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We&#39;ll be *one booth off of the main artery *of the *NAMM show*, vi=
sible from<br>
&gt; the<br>
&gt; main artery and* right across from KORG.*<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&quot;m really excited to demo this unit. =A0It has a combined featur=
e set never<br>
&gt; found in an inexpensive<br>
&gt; floor model stomp box pedal before.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Here&#39;s why.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; *LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; *Midi Sync* * (in/out) =A0 *<br>
&gt; *Balanced *and *UnBalanced Inputs *(for microphones with tip/ring/slee=
ve<br>
&gt; jacks)<br>
&gt; *20 db boost option on input*<br>
&gt; *20+ levels of Undo*<br>
&gt; *Feedback *(with automatic Undo points at every 10% reduction of feedb=
ack)<br>
&gt; *Record/Overdub*<br>
&gt; *Play/Stop*<br>
&gt; *Retrigger (One Shot)*<br>
&gt; *Retrigger (Play Continuously)*<br>
&gt; *Forward/Reverse*<br>
&gt; *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*<br>
&gt; *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed*<br>
&gt; *Quantized Slice Replacement *at these musical increments:<br>
&gt; *1/8, 1/16, =A0for 4/4*, =A0 =A0*1/12, 1/24 =A0 =A0*for* triplet 8ths =
*and* triplet<br>
&gt; 16ths*<br>
&gt; *1/7, 1/9, 1/10 =A0 =A0for odd time signatures =A0 * *<br>
&gt; 1/64 * for *glitching*<br>
&gt; *Storage (and retrieval) *of up to* 8 loops *on a* 4 gig SD Card*<br>
&gt; *Battery Operated* (one 9v battery for 2 hours continuous play)<br>
&gt; *or** Wall Wart AC adapter<br>
&gt; Compact Size<br>
&gt; Snazzy Purple Color *&lt;smile&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And all for an as yet undetermined street price of between $250 and =
=A0$300<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We hope to see you all at *NAMM booth 6244 =A0Hall A*.<br>
&gt; Come check it out!<br>
&gt; Bob will be there for the duration of the show. =A0Bill and I will be =
there on<br>
&gt; Saturday and Sunday.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a<br>
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<=
br>
<br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)<br>
<br>
Sound and Vision: =A0<a href=3D"http://www.minds-eye.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://www.minds-eye.org</a><br>
Video <a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos</a><br>
<br>
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maybe we should have a mystical ceremony.

t
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> LOL!
> 
> awesome news re the birth of a new looping box
> 
> 
> On Jan 9, 2010, at 10:39 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
> 
>> Snazzy Purple Color *<smile>
>

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You should consider the RME multiface. Small no latency stable as  
he'll... Antony

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 10, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,    Rick Walker here.
>
> Happy New Years to you all!
>
> I have a production client right now who wants to invest in a really  
> good
> traveling recording studio.
>
> He wants to be able to record on both Windows and Mac OSX
>
> Right now we are deciding  about the purchase of items for a  
> suitcase recording studio
> that is really high quality  and
> I wondered if anyone can advise me on what to advise him.
>
> Firstly,    We are looking at the RME Firewire 400 and the 800
> *1st Question:     Do you think the RME firewire 800 is too bulky  
> for international travel.
>
> 2nd Question:    Is there another firewire (or USB2)  breakout box  
> that you particularly
> like as an alternative?   Anything less expensive than the RME that  
> is comparable in quality?
> *
>
> His HP Pavillion DV5000 laptop doesn't have a Firewire interface but
> there is a firewire card that he and purchase for to connect this.
>
> *3rd Question:   Is there any down size to using a firewire  
> interface for this particular computer?
>
> ********
> ********
> *Next,  we are looking at getting a pencil condenser microphone that  
> would be the equivalent
> of the Neumann KM184  or the KM150.
>
> These are very pricey mics.
> *4th Question:  Are there any screaming deals in high quality pencil  
> condenser microphones
> that you know of that are not so pricey?     *I know that there are  
> now a plethora of good quality
> condensers on the market including a lot of really inexpensive ones  
> made in Russia and Eastern Europe.
>
> Lastly,   we have looked at this unit for a lighweight and compact  
> headphone distribution amplifier
>
>
> Sound Devices HX-3 - 3 Channel Portable Headphone Amplifier       
> price  $379.00
>
> *5th Question:    Does anyone know of an alternate to this headphone  
> amplifier that might be less expensive
> but do the trick?   It needs to be very portable and run on batteries.
>
> *Thanks so very much for your advice.  I sooo appreciate the level  
> of expertise on this list.
>
> yours,   in the loop,
>
> Rick Walker
> www.y2kloopfest.com
>



      

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Rick Walker wrote:
> *LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:
> 
> *Midi Sync* * (in/out)   *
> *Balanced *and *UnBalanced Inputs *(for microphones with tip/ring/sleeve 
> jacks)
> *20 db boost option on input*
> *20+ levels of Undo*
> *Feedback *(with automatic Undo points at every 10% reduction of feedback)
> *Record/Overdub*
> *Play/Stop*
> *Retrigger (One Shot)*
> *Retrigger (Play Continuously)*
> *Forward/Reverse*
> *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*
> *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed*
> *Quantized Slice Replacement *at these musical increments:
> *1/8, 1/16,  for 4/4*,    *1/12, 1/24    *for* triplet 8ths *and* 
> triplet 16ths*
> *1/7, 1/9, 1/10    for odd time signatures   * *
> 1/64 * for *glitching*
> *Storage (and retrieval) *of up to* 8 loops *on a* 4 gig SD Card*
> *Battery Operated* (one 9v battery for 2 hours continuous play)
> *or** Wall Wart AC adapter
> Compact Size
> Snazzy Purple Color *<smile>
> 
> And all for an as yet undetermined street price of between $250 and  $300

Very healthy featureset for a pedal, and a suitable pricetag to go.
But of course, if anyone can make such a thing happen, it's Bob.

Looks like being purely monophonic, right?
Any links to formal specs/manual?


-- 
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Rick Walker wrote:
> Hi everyone,    Rick Walker here.
> 
> Happy New Years to you all!
> 
> I have a production client right now who wants to invest in a really good
> traveling recording studio.

ok, so they're not using it for live audio.

That removes the worries about latency.

> 
> He wants to be able to record on both Windows and Mac OSX
> 
> Right now we are deciding  about the purchase of items for a suitcase 
> recording studio
> that is really high quality  and
> I wondered if anyone can advise me on what to advise him.

Don't get more channels than you need.

As the mic requirement seems to be *one* then likely 
a 2 channel device will cover it.

> 
> Firstly,    We are looking at the RME Firewire 400 and the 800
> *1st Question:     Do you think the RME firewire 800 is too bulky for 
> international travel.

the Fireface UC would also be suitable,
it's USB2

> 
> 2nd Question:    Is there another firewire (or USB2)  breakout box that 
> you particularly
> like as an alternative?   Anything less expensive than the RME that is 
> comparable in quality?

I haven't checked out RME, so can't offer a comparison.

Focusrite stuff is worth checking out though.
Sound quality is great, and price is much less
than the RME (in Europe at least).

> *
> 
> His HP Pavillion DV5000 laptop doesn't have a Firewire interface but
> there is a firewire card that he and purchase for to connect this.
> 
> *3rd Question:   Is there any down size to using a firewire interface 
> for this particular computer?

no, possibly with the card though.
Check for compatibility.

http://www.rme-audio.de/en_support_techinfo.php

> 
> ********
> ********
> *Next,  we are looking at getting a pencil condenser microphone that 
> would be the equivalent
> of the Neumann KM184  or the KM150.
> 
> These are very pricey mics.  

the KM150 is part of a modular system, that's extra cost if you just
need a cardioid.

KM184 looks like very good value for money!
Neumann are claiming an uncoloured frequency response.  
That means no attempt to flatter the sound.
hmmm...if I had to buy "just one mic" that would be 
a strong contender at the price.


It's actually impossible to know whether that's the right 
mic for your client without info on the instruments likely to
be recorded, and the type of music,
...but if they really want *that* sound, something cheaper isn't
going to be worthwhile.



  
> *4th Question:  Are there any screaming deals in high quality pencil 
> condenser microphones
> that you know of that are not so pricey?     *I know that there are now 
> a plethora of good quality
> condensers on the market including a lot of really inexpensive ones made 
> in Russia and Eastern Europe.


the screaming deal is the SE Electronics SE1a.
It has a slight (rather flattering) presence peak at 10kHz, so it's not
an exact replacement for the KM184.
I have a pair...they sound great.

SE Electronics *is* a Chinese company, but their mics aren't
the typical cheaply made stuff from that country, 
their reputation for quality is very good indeed.


The Russian mic feeding frenzy is over, unfortunately,
Octava's are no longer going for give away prices.

Oktava MK012A  would be the Russian for the job, but
not so cheap these days, and as they aren't that consistent
I would only recommend stereo pairs (because the rest will 
be the ones that didn't match).


> 
> Lastly,   we have looked at this unit for a lighweight and compact 
> headphone distribution amplifier
> 
> 
>  Sound Devices HX-3 - 3 Channel Portable Headphone Amplifier      price  
> $379.00
> 
> *5th Question:    Does anyone know of an alternate to this headphone 
> amplifier that might be less expensive
> but do the trick?   It needs to be very portable and run on batteries.

dunnow, but what's the trick?
a) monitoring while tracking
b) using high quality phones for checking out the sound

Some audio interfaces have 2 built in headphone amps
(even with individual mix)


> 
> *Thanks so very much for your advice.  I sooo appreciate the level of 
> expertise on this list.

hi Rick :-)

andy butler

> 
> yours,   in the loop,
> 
> Rick Walker
> www.y2kloopfest.com
> 
> 

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there's a good deal for SE Titan mic, that goes for around 300 =80 on sever=
al
net shops and it had a street price some years ago of 1300=80. all this
because they are replacing it by a newer model, so it's now discontinued. i
have one, and it's a really good mic for fat brass/reeds.

2010/1/10 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>

>
>
> Rick Walker wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,    Rick Walker here.
>>
>> Happy New Years to you all!
>>
>> I have a production client right now who wants to invest in a really goo=
d
>> traveling recording studio.
>>
>
> ok, so they're not using it for live audio.
>
> That removes the worries about latency.
>
>
>
>> He wants to be able to record on both Windows and Mac OSX
>>
>> Right now we are deciding  about the purchase of items for a suitcase
>> recording studio
>> that is really high quality  and
>> I wondered if anyone can advise me on what to advise him.
>>
>
> Don't get more channels than you need.
>
> As the mic requirement seems to be *one* then likely a 2 channel device
> will cover it.
>
>
>
>> Firstly,    We are looking at the RME Firewire 400 and the 800
>> *1st Question:     Do you think the RME firewire 800 is too bulky for
>> international travel.
>>
>
> the Fireface UC would also be suitable,
> it's USB2
>
>
>
>> 2nd Question:    Is there another firewire (or USB2)  breakout box that
>> you particularly
>> like as an alternative?   Anything less expensive than the RME that is
>> comparable in quality?
>>
>
> I haven't checked out RME, so can't offer a comparison.
>
> Focusrite stuff is worth checking out though.
> Sound quality is great, and price is much less
> than the RME (in Europe at least).
>
>
>  *
>>
>> His HP Pavillion DV5000 laptop doesn't have a Firewire interface but
>> there is a firewire card that he and purchase for to connect this.
>>
>> *3rd Question:   Is there any down size to using a firewire interface fo=
r
>> this particular computer?
>>
>
> no, possibly with the card though.
> Check for compatibility.
>
> http://www.rme-audio.de/en_support_techinfo.php
>
>
>
>> ********
>> ********
>> *Next,  we are looking at getting a pencil condenser microphone that wou=
ld
>> be the equivalent
>> of the Neumann KM184  or the KM150.
>>
>> These are very pricey mics.
>>
>
> the KM150 is part of a modular system, that's extra cost if you just
> need a cardioid.
>
> KM184 looks like very good value for money!
> Neumann are claiming an uncoloured frequency response.  That means no
> attempt to flatter the sound.
> hmmm...if I had to buy "just one mic" that would be a strong contender at
> the price.
>
>
> It's actually impossible to know whether that's the right mic for your
> client without info on the instruments likely to
> be recorded, and the type of music,
> ...but if they really want *that* sound, something cheaper isn't
> going to be worthwhile.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> *4th Question:  Are there any screaming deals in high quality pencil
>> condenser microphones
>> that you know of that are not so pricey?     *I know that there are now =
a
>> plethora of good quality
>> condensers on the market including a lot of really inexpensive ones made
>> in Russia and Eastern Europe.
>>
>
>
> the screaming deal is the SE Electronics SE1a.
> It has a slight (rather flattering) presence peak at 10kHz, so it's not
> an exact replacement for the KM184.
> I have a pair...they sound great.
>
> SE Electronics *is* a Chinese company, but their mics aren't
> the typical cheaply made stuff from that country, their reputation for
> quality is very good indeed.
>
>
> The Russian mic feeding frenzy is over, unfortunately,
> Octava's are no longer going for give away prices.
>
> Oktava MK012A  would be the Russian for the job, but
> not so cheap these days, and as they aren't that consistent
> I would only recommend stereo pairs (because the rest will be the ones th=
at
> didn't match).
>
>
>
>
>> Lastly,   we have looked at this unit for a lighweight and compact
>> headphone distribution amplifier
>>
>>
>>  Sound Devices HX-3 - 3 Channel Portable Headphone Amplifier      price
>>  $379.00
>>
>> *5th Question:    Does anyone know of an alternate to this headphone
>> amplifier that might be less expensive
>> but do the trick?   It needs to be very portable and run on batteries.
>>
>
> dunnow, but what's the trick?
> a) monitoring while tracking
> b) using high quality phones for checking out the sound
>
> Some audio interfaces have 2 built in headphone amps
> (even with individual mix)
>
>
>
>
>> *Thanks so very much for your advice.  I sooo appreciate the level of
>> expertise on this list.
>>
>
> hi Rick :-)
>
> andy butler
>
>
>
>> yours,   in the loop,
>>
>> Rick Walker
>> www.y2kloopfest.com
>>
>>
>>
>


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there&#39;s a good deal for SE Titan mic, that goes for around 300 =80 on s=
everal net shops and it had a street price some years ago of 1300=80. all t=
his because they are replacing it by a newer model, so it&#39;s now discont=
inued. i have one, and it&#39;s a really good mic for fat brass/reeds.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/10 andy butler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</s=
pan><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid r=
gb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
Rick Walker wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi everyone, =A0 =A0Rick Walker here.<br>
<br>
Happy New Years to you all!<br>
<br>
I have a production client right now who wants to invest in a really good<b=
r>
traveling recording studio.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
ok, so they&#39;re not using it for live audio.<br>
<br>
That removes the worries about latency.<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
He wants to be able to record on both Windows and Mac OSX<br>
<br>
Right now we are deciding =A0about the purchase of items for a suitcase rec=
ording studio<br>
that is really high quality =A0and<br>
I wondered if anyone can advise me on what to advise him.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
Don&#39;t get more channels than you need.<br>
<br>
As the mic requirement seems to be *one* then likely a 2 channel device wil=
l cover it.<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Firstly, =A0 =A0We are looking at the RME Firewire 400 and the 800<br>
*1st Question: =A0 =A0 Do you think the RME firewire 800 is too bulky for i=
nternational travel.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
the Fireface UC would also be suitable,<br>
it&#39;s USB2<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
2nd Question: =A0 =A0Is there another firewire (or USB2) =A0breakout box th=
at you particularly<br>
like as an alternative? =A0 Anything less expensive than the RME that is co=
mparable in quality?<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
I haven&#39;t checked out RME, so can&#39;t offer a comparison.<br>
<br>
Focusrite stuff is worth checking out though.<br>
Sound quality is great, and price is much less<br>
than the RME (in Europe at least).<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
*<br>
<br>
His HP Pavillion DV5000 laptop doesn&#39;t have a Firewire interface but<br=
>
there is a firewire card that he and purchase for to connect this.<br>
<br>
*3rd Question: =A0 Is there any down size to using a firewire interface for=
 this particular computer?<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
no, possibly with the card though.<br>
Check for compatibility.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.rme-audio.de/en_support_techinfo.php" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://www.rme-audio.de/en_support_techinfo.php</a><div class=3D"im"><br=
>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
********<br>
********<br>
*Next, =A0we are looking at getting a pencil condenser microphone that woul=
d be the equivalent<br>
of the Neumann KM184 =A0or the KM150.<br>
<br>
These are very pricey mics. =A0<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
the KM150 is part of a modular system, that&#39;s extra cost if you just<br=
>
need a cardioid.<br>
<br>
KM184 looks like very good value for money!<br>
Neumann are claiming an uncoloured frequency response. =A0That means no att=
empt to flatter the sound.<br>
hmmm...if I had to buy &quot;just one mic&quot; that would be a strong cont=
ender at the price.<br>
<br>
<br>
It&#39;s actually impossible to know whether that&#39;s the right mic for y=
our client without info on the instruments likely to<br>
be recorded, and the type of music,<br>
...but if they really want *that* sound, something cheaper isn&#39;t<br>
going to be worthwhile.<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
=A0<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
*4th Question: =A0Are there any screaming deals in high quality pencil cond=
enser microphones<br>
that you know of that are not so pricey? =A0 =A0 *I know that there are now=
 a plethora of good quality<br>
condensers on the market including a lot of really inexpensive ones made in=
 Russia and Eastern Europe.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br></div>
the screaming deal is the SE Electronics SE1a.<br>
It has a slight (rather flattering) presence peak at 10kHz, so it&#39;s not=
<br>
an exact replacement for the KM184.<br>
I have a pair...they sound great.<br>
<br>
SE Electronics *is* a Chinese company, but their mics aren&#39;t<br>
the typical cheaply made stuff from that country, their reputation for qual=
ity is very good indeed.<br>
<br>
<br>
The Russian mic feeding frenzy is over, unfortunately,<br>
Octava&#39;s are no longer going for give away prices.<br>
<br>
Oktava MK012A =A0would be the Russian for the job, but<br>
not so cheap these days, and as they aren&#39;t that consistent<br>
I would only recommend stereo pairs (because the rest will be the ones that=
 didn&#39;t match).<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Lastly, =A0 we have looked at this unit for a lighweight and compact headph=
one distribution amplifier<br>
<br>
<br>
=A0Sound Devices HX-3 - 3 Channel Portable Headphone Amplifier =A0 =A0 =A0p=
rice =A0$379.00<br>
<br>
*5th Question: =A0 =A0Does anyone know of an alternate to this headphone am=
plifier that might be less expensive<br>
but do the trick? =A0 It needs to be very portable and run on batteries.<br=
>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
dunnow, but what&#39;s the trick?<br>
a) monitoring while tracking<br>
b) using high quality phones for checking out the sound<br>
<br>
Some audio interfaces have 2 built in headphone amps<br>
(even with individual mix)<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
*Thanks so very much for your advice. =A0I sooo appreciate the level of exp=
ertise on this list.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
hi Rick :-)<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
andy butler</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
yours, =A0 in the loop,<br>
<br>
Rick Walker<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.y2kloopfest.com" target=3D"_blank">www.y2kloopfest.co=
m</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell=
 at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.b=
logspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collecti=
ve.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
<br>

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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> *LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:

Hey, that's a great feature set! Very close to my own choice of the
must useful functions I use with my laptop rig running Mobius. Is
there a sort of manual or "functionality chart" available? Would be
fun getting to learn this looper a bit more. I mean how can you call
up the functions? Are there buttons on the box and can they be
extended by additional control gear? And the spec's says "MIDI Sync"
but what protocol is used? (MTC, MIDI clock, transport functions?)

Any idea why limiting the speed function to octaves and flat thirds?

> *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*
>
> *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed


Greetings from Sweden

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Hook me up! I play a Godin Spectrum via a Duet, AX50, Ableton.

On Jan 10, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:

> Hey guys,
> As part of my masters degree I've just created some novel guitar  
> VST plugins and need some independent testers to try them and let  
> me know what they think. They're a sort of cross between an effect  
> and a guitar synth. You will need a MIDI interface for your guitar  
> and a soundcard. Any old software that accepts VST's will do to run  
> them.
> I currently have a 36dB octave filter module and an an intelligent  
> ring modulator. The novelty is in the way these devices respond to  
> what you're playing. They tune themselves to your performance  
> offering the feel of your guitar with an expanded sound palette -  
> That's the theory anyway.
> I'd really appreciate input from anyone who's interested.
>
> Gareth
>
> ps There will be free copies for testers if ever I decide to  
> release them...
>
> We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories.  
> Tell us now


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Hook me up! I play a Godin Spectrum via a Duet, AX50, =
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Whittock wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
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style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; ">Hey guys,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>As part of my masters =
degree I've just created some novel guitar VST plugins and need some =
independent testers to try them and let me know what they think. They're =
a sort of cross between an effect and a guitar synth. You will need a =
MIDI interface for your guitar and a soundcard. Any old software that =
accepts VST's will do to run them.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>I currently have a 36dB =
octave filter module and an an intelligent ring modulator. The novelty =
is in the way these devices respond to what you're playing. They tune =
themselves to your performance offering the feel of your guitar with an =
expanded sound palette - That's the theory anyway.<br>I'd really =
appreciate input from anyone who's interested.<br><br>Gareth<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><br>ps There will be =
free copies for testers if ever I decide to release =
them...<br><br><hr>We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy =
Hotmail stories.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/" =
target=3D"_new">Tell us =
now</a></span></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-2 MINI looper unveiled at NAMM
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Hey Rick,
Wow!
Great specs.
I'm currently torn between getting a Rang3 or having another go with my
laptop(looking at an ultralite mk3), but I'd really prefer to keep it in
the hardware world.
I decided last night that I would make my choice this morning, and now a
3rd element's been thrown in the mix.

Wondering if the LP2 Mini can be synced with another one for stereo(like
the echoplex) or if Bob has any plans for this in the future.

If so, how do I get a hold of one?

Andre

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On Sun, January 10, 2010 9:36 am, Per Boysen wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> *LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:
>
> Hey, that's a great feature set! Very close to my own choice of the
> must useful functions I use with my laptop rig running Mobius. Is
> there a sort of manual or "functionality chart" available? Would be
> fun getting to learn this looper a bit more. I mean how can you call
> up the functions? Are there buttons on the box and can they be
> extended by additional control gear? And the spec's says "MIDI Sync"
> but what protocol is used? (MTC, MIDI clock, transport functions?)
>
> Any idea why limiting the speed function to octaves and flat thirds?
>
>> *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*
>>
>> *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed
>
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
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>



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pictured here

http://bobamstadt.posterous.com/here-is-a-picture-of-the-first-lp2

looking cool

Rick Walker wrote:

> will be unveiling his new *LP-2 MINI looper* at *NAMM *

hey there Rick, wanna talk us thro' the UI?

I'm guessing there's a way to scroll thro' pairs
of fx assignations for the 2 extra buttons.

but how exactly are the Rec and Play buttons configured?

I'm gonna guess that when your re-triggering *both* fx
buttons do the re-trig for 2 hand tapping.


...and mono!!!???

andy butler

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NOOOO!!! 

Just went I thought I was outta GAS...........

Time to start saving up -- anyone interested in buying my 'Rang+ ?

Bob, good luck with this, I hope the product does well......

Eric



      
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mmm   - looks like the answer to my prayers.  Stick me down for one!

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On 10 Jan 2010, at 15:59, E Gross wrote:

> NOOOO!!!
>
> Just went I thought I was outta GAS...........
>
> Time to start saving up -- anyone interested in buying my 'Rang+ ?
>
> Bob, good luck with this, I hope the product does well......
> Eric
>
>
>


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Matt Stevens wrote:
> mmm   - looks like the answer to my prayers. 


why?

(just curious)

andy


 Stick me down for one!
> 
> Matt Stevens
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> 
> 
> 
> On 10 Jan 2010, at 15:59, E Gross wrote:
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>> NOOOO!!!
>>  
>> Just went I thought I was outta GAS...........
>>  
>> Time to start saving up -- anyone interested in buying my 'Rang+ ?
>>  
>> Bob, good luck with this, I hope the product does well......
>> Eric
>>  
>>
>>
> 

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Wow that sounds like a wonderful box particularly having mic input,
variance of speeds and both battery and adapter power.

Though I tried looping with a laptop lthis past falll I'm finding I'm
shifting back to 'pedaling' in my case currently a 2880.. I suppose
certainly room for both though.

If all that can be offered btwn 250 and 3 that's wonderful positioning
below the EHX and in the Boss range.

Is bob doing orders individually or will he have some outside building
help to increase delivery?

Have a great NAMM trip with it guys.

Jim

On 1/10/10, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Rick Walker here with some exciting live looping technology news:
>
> I just wanted to everybody to know that* Bob Amdstadt *
> will be unveiling his new *LP-2 MINI looper* at *NAMM *
> next weekend in *Anaheim.
> *
> My brother *Bill Walker *and *I* will be demoing it (and the LP-1
> Looplerlative)
> at the* Looperlative Booth.6244,  Hall A.*
>
> We'll be *one booth off of the main artery *of the *NAMM show*, visible
> from the
> main artery and* right across from KORG.*
>
> I"m really excited to demo this unit.  It has a combined feature set
> never found in an inexpensive
> floor model stomp box pedal before.
>
> Here's why.
>
> *LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:
>
> *Midi Sync* * (in/out)   *
> *Balanced *and *UnBalanced Inputs *(for microphones with tip/ring/sleeve
> jacks)
> *20 db boost option on input*
> *20+ levels of Undo*
> *Feedback *(with automatic Undo points at every 10% reduction of feedback)
> *Record/Overdub*
> *Play/Stop*
> *Retrigger (One Shot)*
> *Retrigger (Play Continuously)*
> *Forward/Reverse*
> *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*
> *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed*
> *Quantized Slice Replacement *at these musical increments:
> *1/8, 1/16,  for 4/4*,    *1/12, 1/24    *for* triplet 8ths *and*
> triplet 16ths*
> *1/7, 1/9, 1/10    for odd time signatures   * *
> 1/64 * for *glitching*
> *Storage (and retrieval) *of up to* 8 loops *on a* 4 gig SD Card*
> *Battery Operated* (one 9v battery for 2 hours continuous play)
> *or** Wall Wart AC adapter
> Compact Size
> Snazzy Purple Color *<smile>
>
> And all for an as yet undetermined street price of between $250 and  $300
>
>
> We hope to see you all at *NAMM booth 6244  Hall A*.
> Come check it out!
> Bob will be there for the duration of the show.
> Bill and I will be there on Saturday and Sunday.
>
>

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Sounds like a super DL4 4 with MIDI.  Thats all i need.

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On 10 Jan 2010, at 16:14, andy butler wrote:

>
>
> Matt Stevens wrote:
>> mmm   - looks like the answer to my prayers.
>
>
> why?
>
> (just curious)
>
> andy
>
>
> Stick me down for one!
>> Matt Stevens
>> www.mattstevensguitar.com
>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com  
>> <mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
>> On 10 Jan 2010, at 15:59, E Gross wrote:
>>> NOOOO!!!
>>>  Just went I thought I was outta GAS...........
>>>  Time to start saving up -- anyone interested in buying my 'Rang+ ?
>>>  Bob, good luck with this, I hope the product does well......
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>


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Rick I posted your note on FB Eastern USA Loopers discussion board...

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> Rick Walker here with some exciting live looping technology news:
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Rick I posted your note on FB Eastern USA Loopers discussion board...<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Rick Walker <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Rick Walker here with some exciting live looping technology news:<br><br></blockquote></div>
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Dear Partner,

PROPOSITION FOR PARTNERSHIP

My name is Mr. Ben Andrew, Human Resources Director of Barclays Bank Plc,
London. I am writing in respect of a America and British Citizen customer
of my
bank Mr. Wilcox Alex, dual citizen of America and Britain , who died
together with his wife (Wilcox, Petra) in a Plane crash on Monday 7th
September 1998 GMT 14:22 UK while they were flying from New York to Geneva.
Please see site below for more information.

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The late Mr. Wilcox Alex left in our bank the sum of twenty five million
pounds (£25 million pounds) and nobody will ever come for this money
because he
died with his entire family. I am the only person that is aware of this money
since Mr. Wilcox, Alex, did not give to my bank any next of kin to inherit
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Below are the informations we need to enable us transfer the Funds to your
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A]. Bank Name..................
B]. Bank Address (including Phone & fax numbers)............
C]. Swift Code..........................
D]. Your Account Number..................
E]. Your Account Name .................
F]. Your Address (including Phone & fax numbers)..............
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H]. Your scanned international passport or drivers license for proper
identification.

Regards
Mr. Ben Andrew.
Tel: +44 7024030837

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Wow, looks great. Any chance of an LD group buy, Bob?

Thanks,
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SALAM MY DEAR FRIEND,=20
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 I HAVE DECIDED TO CONTACT YOU ON A BUSINESS PROPOSAL OF US$20 LIMMION UNIT=
ED STATE DOLLARS). THE DEPOSITOR OF THE SAID FUND DIED WITH HIS ENTIRE FAMI=
LY DURING THE IRAQ WAR IN 2006. THE DECEASED CUSTOMER USED HIS WIFE AS THE =
NEXT OF KIN BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE WIFE DIED ALONG SIDE WITH HIM LEAVING NO=
BODY FOR THE CLIAM.=20
=A0
ACCORDING TO OUR BANKING LAW, IF THE FUND RE MAIN UNCLAIMED FOR TWO (2) YEA=
RS THEN, THE FUND WILL BE TRANSFER INTO THE RESERVE BANK OF BURKINA AS UNCL=
AIMED BILL. I DON'T WANT THE FUND TO GO INTO THE BANK TREASURY AND AS SUCH,=
 LET US CLAIM THE FUND NOW.=20
=A0
I WANT TO PRESENT YOU AS HIS COUSIN OR BUSINESS PARTNER SO THAT THE BANK WI=
LL TRANSFER THE FUND INTO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT FOR US TO SHARE IT. YOUR PERCEN=
TAGE WILL BE 40% WHILE 60% WILL BE FOR ME.=20
PLEASE REPLY TO THIS MY PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS:(lmran_kamel@sify.com ) AS AN=
 INSIDER IN THIS BANK,
=A0
I ASSURE YOU THAT, THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% RISK FREE. IF YOU ARE WILLING F=
OR THE DEAL, CONTACT ME FOR MORE DETAILS BUT IF YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE, PLEASE=
 NOTIFY ME.=A0 THE TRANSACTION WILL TAKE US ONLY 14 BANKING DAYS. NOBODY KN=
OWS ABOUT THE FUND AND AS SUCH, YOU MUST KEEP THE SECRET WITHIN YOU OK.YOU =
MUST KEEP THIS DEAL AS SECRET FOR THE SECURITY OF THE FUND. DO NOT DISCLOSE=
 THIS DEAL TO ANYBODY
BECAUSE I WANT THE SECRET TO BE BETWEEN US ONLY.=A0=20
=A0
I WILL GIVE YOU THE TEXT OF THE APPLICATION TO FILL AND SEND TO THE BANK FO=
R THE RELEASE OF THE FUND INTO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT ON THE RECEIPT OF YOUR MES=
SAGE. I WILL BE MONITORING THE WHOLE SITUATION HERE IN THE BANK UNTIL YOU C=
ONFIRM THE MONEY IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT AND ASK ME TO COME DOWN TO YOUR COUNT=
RY FOR SUBSEQUENT SHARING OF THE FUND ACCORDING TO PERCENTAGE INDICATED ABO=
VE.
=A0
YOU CAN SEE THE NEWS IN BBC AND CNN REGARDING THEIR DEATH:=20
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/11/iraq.deaths/=20
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6040054.stm=20
I WILL BE GLAD TO HEAR FROM YOU AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE THIS MESSAGE AS TO E=
NABLE ME GIVE YOU THE APPLICATION TO FILL AND SEND TO THE BANK.=20
PLEASE REPLY TO THIS MY PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS: lmran_kamel@sify.com=20
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ALHAJI IMRAN.
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bsp; A BANKER IN ONE OF THE REPUTABLE BANK IN BURKINA FASO. I HAVE DECIDED =
TO CONTACT YOU ON A BUSINESS PROPOSAL OF US$20 LIMMION UNITED STATE DOLLARS=
). THE DEPOSITOR OF THE SAID FUND DIED WITH HIS ENTIRE FAMILY DURING THE IR=
AQ WAR IN 2006. THE DECEASED CUSTOMER USED HIS WIFE AS THE NEXT OF KIN BUT =
UNFORTUNATELY, THE WIFE DIED ALONG SIDE WITH HIM LEAVING NOBODY FOR THE CLI=
AM. <BR>&nbsp;<BR>ACCORDING TO OUR BANKING LAW, IF THE FUND RE MAIN UNCLAIM=
ED FOR TWO (2) YEARS THEN, THE FUND WILL BE TRANSFER INTO THE RESERVE BANK =
OF BURKINA AS UNCLAIMED BILL. I DON'T WANT THE FUND TO GO INTO THE BANK TRE=
ASURY AND AS SUCH, LET US CLAIM THE FUND NOW. <BR>&nbsp;<BR>I WANT TO PRESE=
NT YOU AS HIS COUSIN OR BUSINESS PARTNER SO THAT THE BANK WILL TRANSFER THE=
 FUND INTO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT FOR US TO SHARE IT. YOUR PERCENTAGE WILL BE 40=
%
 WHILE 60% WILL BE FOR ME. <BR>PLEASE REPLY TO THIS MY PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRES=
S:(<A href=3D"mailto:lmran_kamel@sify.com">lmran_kamel@sify.com</A> ) AS AN=
 INSIDER IN THIS BANK,<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I ASSURE YOU THAT, THIS TRANSACTION IS =
100% RISK FREE. IF YOU ARE WILLING FOR THE DEAL, CONTACT ME FOR MORE DETAIL=
S BUT IF YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE, PLEASE NOTIFY ME.&nbsp; THE TRANSACTION WILL =
TAKE US ONLY 14 BANKING DAYS. NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THE FUND AND AS SUCH, YOU =
MUST KEEP THE SECRET WITHIN YOU OK.YOU MUST KEEP THIS DEAL AS SECRET FOR TH=
E SECURITY OF THE FUND. DO NOT DISCLOSE THIS DEAL TO ANYBODY<BR>BECAUSE I W=
ANT THE SECRET TO BE BETWEEN US ONLY.&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;<BR>I WILL GIVE YOU T=
HE TEXT OF THE APPLICATION TO FILL AND SEND TO THE BANK FOR THE RELEASE OF =
THE FUND INTO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT ON THE RECEIPT OF YOUR MESSAGE. I WILL BE M=
ONITORING THE WHOLE SITUATION HERE IN THE BANK UNTIL YOU CONFIRM THE MONEY =
IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT AND ASK ME TO COME DOWN TO YOUR COUNTRY FOR
 SUBSEQUENT SHARING OF THE FUND ACCORDING TO PERCENTAGE INDICATED ABOVE.<BR=
>&nbsp;<BR>YOU CAN SEE THE NEWS IN BBC AND CNN REGARDING THEIR DEATH: <BR><=
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w.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/11/iraq.deaths/</A> <BR><A href=3D"http://new=
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D TO THE BANK. <BR>PLEASE REPLY TO THIS MY PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS: <A href=
=3D"mailto:lmran_kamel@sify.com">lmran_kamel@sify.com</A> <BR>BEST REGARD, =
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Hi everyone,

got a few tech issues with the FHS sorted out, so I'm going live again 
today.
At 2030 GMT, tune in for some odd ambient washes (or whatever comes my way):
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions

See you there!

          Rainer

-- 
http://moinlabs.de
Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs

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See you there mate

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com

Check out "Moondial" by Matt Stevens on Playlist 7 http:// 
reverbnation.com/playlist7?artist_id=158359




On 10 Jan 2010, at 18:32, Rainer Straschill wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> got a few tech issues with the FHS sorted out, so I'm going live  
> again today.
> At 2030 GMT, tune in for some odd ambient washes (or whatever comes  
> my way):
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions
>
> See you there!
>
>          Rainer
>
> -- 
> http://moinlabs.de
> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
>


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See you there mate<div><br><div> <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Matt =
Stevens</div><div>www.mattstevensguitar.com</div><div><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
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face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Check out =
"Moondial" by Matt Stevens on Playlist 7 <a =
href=3D"http://reverbnation.com/playlist7?artist_id=3D158359"><font =
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#001de0"><u>http://reverbnation.com/playlist7?artist_id=3D158359</u></font=
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at 18:32, Rainer Straschill wrote:</div><br =
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margin-left: 0px; ">Hi everyone,</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
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14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">got a few tech issues with the =
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Gareth,

I'd love to check it out! Amongst my weaponry is a Godin Multiac Jazz
through a GR-20.

-George

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:

> Hook me up! I play a Godin Spectrum via a Duet, AX50, Ableton.
>
>  On Jan 10, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> As part of my masters degree I've just created some novel guitar VST
> plugins and need some independent testers to try them and let me know what
> they think. They're a sort of cross between an effect and a guitar synth.
> You will need a MIDI interface for your guitar and a soundcard. Any old
> software that accepts VST's will do to run them.
> I currently have a 36dB octave filter module and an an intelligent ring
> modulator. The novelty is in the way these devices respond to what you're
> playing. They tune themselves to your performance offering the feel of your
> guitar with an expanded sound palette - That's the theory anyway.
> I'd really appreciate input from anyone who's interested.
>
> Gareth
>
> ps There will be free copies for testers if ever I decide to release
> them...
>
> ------------------------------
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<div>Gareth,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;d love to check it out! Amongst my weaponry is a Godin Multiac J=
azz through=A0a GR-20.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-George<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Chris Sewell <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lunamusic@mac.com">lunamusic@mac.com<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word">Hook me up! I play a Godin Spectrum vi=
a a Duet, AX50, Ableton.=A0=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5">
<div><br>
<div>
<div>On Jan 10, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:</div><br>
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e=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Hey guys,<span>=A0</span><br>
As part of my masters degree I&#39;ve just created some novel guitar VST pl=
ugins and need some independent testers to try them and let me know what th=
ey think. They&#39;re a sort of cross between an effect and a guitar synth.=
 You will need a MIDI interface for your guitar and a soundcard. Any old so=
ftware that accepts VST&#39;s will do to run them.<span>=A0</span><br>
I currently have a 36dB octave filter module and an an intelligent ring mod=
ulator. The novelty is in the way these devices respond to what you&#39;re =
playing. They tune themselves to your performance offering the feel of your=
 guitar with an expanded sound palette - That&#39;s the theory anyway.<br>
I&#39;d really appreciate input from anyone who&#39;s interested.<br><br>Ga=
reth<span>=A0</span><br><br>ps There will be free copies for testers if eve=
r I decide to release them...<br><br>
<hr>
We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories.<span>=
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Ah, I can't make it today so will catch you on the replay. Take no 
prisoners!

Jeff

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> Hi everyone,
>
> got a few tech issues with the FHS sorted out, so I'm going live again 
> today.
> At 2030 GMT, tune in for some odd ambient washes (or whatever comes my 
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> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions
>
> See you there!
>
>          Rainer
>
> -- 
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I'm interested in taking part.

Ricky
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  I currently have a 36dB octave filter module and an an intelligent =
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you're playing. They tune themselves to your performance offering the =
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  I'd really appreciate input from anyone who's interested.

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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

And the spec's says "MIDI Sync"

> but what protocol is used? (MTC, MIDI clock, transport functions?)
>

Im certain when MIDI sync is wrtten it would be MIDI clock... as not
everyone will be using MTC


> Any idea why limiting the speed function to octaves and flat thirds?
>
> > *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*
> >
> > *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed
>

First Per, why thirds? Its not thirds.. its gonna be a 2 octave jump aint
it?
second, im sure that its a hardware thing that means it limited to
...octaves... My question would be... why only octaves DOWN?? Im always
wanting a DOUBLE SPEED jump.. som much so that i almost always start my
second EDP on double speed...

m



>
>
> Greetings from norway


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=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br>And the spec&#39;s says &quot;MIDI Sync&qu=
ot;<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
but what protocol is used? (MTC, MIDI clock, transport functions?)<br></blo=
ckquote><div><br>Im certain when MIDI sync is wrtten it would be MIDI clock=
... as not everyone will be using MTC<br>=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0p=
t 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">


Any idea why limiting the speed function to octaves and flat thirds?<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed<br></div></blockquote><div><br>First Per, w=
hy thirds? Its not thirds.. its gonna be a 2 octave jump aint it?<br>second=
, im sure that its a hardware thing that means it limited to ...octaves... =
My question would be... why only octaves DOWN?? Im always wanting a DOUBLE =
SPEED jump.. som much so that i almost always start my second EDP on double=
 speed...<br>

<br>m<br><br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-lef=
t: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1=
ex;"><div class=3D"im">
<br>
<br>
</div>Greetings from <font color=3D"#888888">norway</font></blockquote><div=
><br>Mark<br></div></div>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">ww=
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Count me in! I'd live to try the beta tester! I loop alot in Kora so  
that would be really cool!

Daniel (aka. Colfax)

Sent from my iPhone

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 > wrote:

> I'm interested in taking part.
>
> Ricky
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gareth Whittock
> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:48 PM
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>
> Hey guys,
> As part of my masters degree I've just created some novel guitar VST  
> plugins and need some independent testers to try them and let me  
> know what they think. They're a sort of cross between an effect and  
> a guitar synth. You will need a MIDI interface for your guitar and a  
> soundcard. Any old software that accepts VST's will do to run them.
> I currently have a 36dB octave filter module and an an intelligent  
> ring modulator. The novelty is in the way these devices respond to  
> what you're playing. They tune themselves to your performance  
> offering the feel of your guitar with an expanded sound palette -  
> That's the theory anyway.
> I'd really appreciate input from anyone who's interested.
>
> Gareth
>
> ps There will be free copies for testers if ever I decide to release  
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>
> We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories.  
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<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Count me in! I'd live to try the beta tester! I loop alot in Kora so that would be really cool!</div><div><br></div><div>Daniel (aka. Colfax)<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 10, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Ricky Graham &lt;<a href="mailto:rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com">rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

<div><font face="Arial">I'm interested in taking part.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial">Ricky</font></div>
<blockquote style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b> 
  <a title="buddhamachine@live.co.uk" href="mailto:buddhamachine@live.co.uk">Gareth Whittock</a> </div>
  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" href="mailto:loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com"><a href="mailto:loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com">loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com</a></a> 
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  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:48 
  PM</div>
  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> OT: Guitarist plugin beta 
  testers wanted</div>
  <div><br></div>Hey guys, <br>As part of my masters degree I've just created 
  some novel guitar VST plugins and need some independent testers to try them 
  and let me know what they think. They're a sort of cross between an effect and 
  a guitar synth. You will need a MIDI interface for your guitar and a 
  soundcard. Any old software that accepts VST's will do to run them. <br>I 
  currently have a 36dB octave filter module and an an intelligent ring 
  modulator. The novelty is in the way these devices respond to what you're 
  playing. They tune themselves to your performance offering the feel of your 
  guitar with an expanded sound palette - That's the theory anyway.<br>I'd 
  really appreciate input from anyone who's interested.<br><br>Gareth <br><br>ps 
  There will be free copies for testers if ever I decide to release 
  them...<br><br>
  <hr>
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sounds interesting. i love ring mods - i'd give it a try

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sounds interesting. i love ring mods - i&#39;d give it a try<br>

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What type of footswitches are going to be used on the lp2 mini?

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:40 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And the spec's says "MIDI Sync"
>
>> but what protocol is used? (MTC, MIDI clock, transport functions?)
>>
>
> Im certain when MIDI sync is wrtten it would be MIDI clock... as not
> everyone will be using MTC
>
>
>> Any idea why limiting the speed function to octaves and flat thirds?
>>
>> > *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*
>> >
>> > *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed
>>
>
> First Per, why thirds? Its not thirds.. its gonna be a 2 octave jump aint
> it?
> second, im sure that its a hardware thing that means it limited to
> ...octaves... My question would be... why only octaves DOWN?? Im always
> wanting a DOUBLE SPEED jump.. som much so that i almost always start my
> second EDP on double speed...
>
> m
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Greetings from norway
>
>
> Mark
> --
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What type of footswitches are going to be used on the lp2 mini?<br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:40 PM, mark francombe <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfranco=
mbe.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
>On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im"><br>And the spec&#39;s s=
ays &quot;MIDI Sync&quot;<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
but what protocol is used? (MTC, MIDI clock, transport functions?)<br></blo=
ckquote></div><div><br>Im certain when MIDI sync is wrtten it would be MIDI=
 clock... as not everyone will be using MTC<br>=A0<br></div><div class=3D"i=
m">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">


Any idea why limiting the speed function to octaves and flat thirds?<br>
<div><br>
&gt; *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*<br>
&gt;<br>
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Todd Matthews wrote:
> What type of footswitches are going to be used on the lp2 mini?
> 
 I have a feeling they'll be capable of very fast hand triggering
........for some reason

andy

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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:40 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
>> > *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed
>
> First Per, why thirds? Its not thirds.. its gonna be a 2 octave jump aint
> it?

Well, I was thinking that "1/4" would be a fourth of the full speed
a.k.a. 100 percent. 12 notes on an octave means a fourth of an octave
must be 2 notes a.k.a. a minor third. It looks this issue will manage
to keep my bringing my laptop looping rigs to upcoming club gigs
because I really need to stay alert for switching whatever loop I got
spinning into any pitch to match a sextette band repertoire. Like if
I'm to provide "electronica pads" I loop the fifth and and first note
in at a bunch of octaves and then I can go xxx-speed and play the
third to hit any major or minor chord.

> second, im sure that its a hardware thing that means it limited to
> ...octaves... My question would be... why only octaves DOWN?? Im always
> wanting a DOUBLE SPEED jump.. som much so that i almost always start my
> second EDP on double speed...

I see a lot of cool stuff you can do with such a box. Just work it
like we already do with the EDP; make a bass line in double tempo at
normal speed, then go into 1/2 speed (HalfSpeed) to pitch it down at
the right bass level and stay looping down there for the rest of the
gig - or until you need to make a new bass line. Nevertheless I agree
x2 speed is more useful.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> 100 percent. 12 notes on an octave means a fourth of an octave
> must be 2 notes a.k.a. a minor third.

Sorry for that TYPO. Of course I meant "2 notes a.k.a. a minor third".

Per

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>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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>From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:52:09 +0000
>Rick Walker wrote:
>> will be unveiling his new *LP-2 MINI looper* at *NAMM *
8<
>...and mono!!!???
>andy butler

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its easy to preset the track speed before beginning your loop, so its  
possible to pitch tracks 2 octaves higher when starting fromt 1/4 speed.
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>
> Well, I was thinking that "1/4" would be a fourth of the full speed
> a.k.a. 100 percent. 12 notes on an octave means a fourth of an octave
> must be 2 notes a.k.a. a minor third. It looks this issue will manage
> to keep my bringing my laptop looping rigs to upcoming club gigs
> because I really need to stay alert for switching whatever loop I got
> spinning into any pitch to match a sextette band repertoire. Like if
> I'm to provide "electronica pads" I loop the fifth and and first note
> in at a bunch of octaves and then I can go xxx-speed and play the
> third to hit any major or minor chord.
>

Im afraid i didnt understand a word of this Per!!!

Well, half speed means its takes twice as long (on a sampler that means one
octave down)
quater speed, means i takes 4 times as long (ona sampler that would be 2
octave down... or 4.. dammit, now you got ME confused... ME... that guy
thats impossible to confube... ....

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</div>Well, I was thinking that &quot;1/4&quot; would be a fourth of the fu=
ll speed<br>
a.k.a. 100 percent. 12 notes on an octave means a fourth of an octave<br>
must be 2 notes a.k.a. a minor third. It looks this issue will manage<br>
to keep my bringing my laptop looping rigs to upcoming club gigs<br>
because I really need to stay alert for switching whatever loop I got<br>
spinning into any pitch to match a sextette band repertoire. Like if<br>
I&#39;m to provide &quot;electronica pads&quot; I loop the fifth and and fi=
rst note<br>
in at a bunch of octaves and then I can go xxx-speed and play the<br>
third to hit any major or minor chord.<br></blockquote><div><br>Im afraid i=
 didnt understand a word of this Per!!!<br><br>Well, half speed means its t=
akes twice as long (on a sampler that means one octave down)<br>quater spee=
d, means i takes 4 times as long (ona sampler that would be 2 octave down..=
. or 4.. dammit, now you got ME confused... ME... that guy thats impossible=
 to confube... ....<br>

<br>m<br>=A0</div></div>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www=
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Hey Everyone, 
Just back from Japan tour, incredible people and country.
Check out the new video clip filmed at a jazz club in Shibuya at:  www.Myspace.com/KevinSpears, 

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I'm in!  I've got an iGuitar through a GR50.  I love vst toys. J

 

Tony

 

From: George Ludwig [mailto:georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com] 
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Gareth,

 

I'd love to check it out! Amongst my weaponry is a Godin Multiac Jazz
through a GR-20.

 

-George

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:

Hook me up! I play a Godin Spectrum via a Duet, AX50, Ableton.  

 

On Jan 10, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:





Hey guys, 
As part of my masters degree I've just created some novel guitar VST plugins
and need some independent testers to try them and let me know what they
think. They're a sort of cross between an effect and a guitar synth. You
will need a MIDI interface for your guitar and a soundcard. Any old software
that accepts VST's will do to run them. 
I currently have a 36dB octave filter module and an an intelligent ring
modulator. The novelty is in the way these devices respond to what you're
playing. They tune themselves to your performance offering the feel of your
guitar with an expanded sound palette - That's the theory anyway.
I'd really appreciate input from anyone who's interested.

Gareth 

ps There will be free copies for testers if ever I decide to release them...

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[mailto:georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: OT: Guitarist plugin beta testers =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>Gareth,<o:p></o:p></p>

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Godin
Multiac Jazz through&nbsp;a GR-20.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Jan 10, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Gareth Whittock =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
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As part of my masters degree I've just created some novel guitar VST =
plugins
and need some independent testers to try them and let me know what they =
think.
They're a sort of cross between an effect and a guitar synth. You will =
need a
MIDI interface for your guitar and a soundcard. Any old software that =
accepts
VST's will do to run them.&nbsp;<br>
I currently have a 36dB octave filter module and an an intelligent ring
modulator. The novelty is in the way these devices respond to what =
you're
playing. They tune themselves to your performance offering the feel of =
your
guitar with an expanded sound palette - That's the theory anyway.<br>
I'd really appreciate input from anyone who's interested.<br>
<br>
Gareth&nbsp;<br>
<br>
ps There will be free copies for testers if ever I decide to release =
them...<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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>> Well, I was thinking that "1/4" would be a fourth of the full speed
>> a.k.a. 100 percent. 12 notes on an octave means a fourth of an octave
>> must be 2 notes a.k.a. a minor third. It looks this issue will manage
>> to keep my bringing my laptop looping rigs to upcoming club gigs
>> because I really need to stay alert for switching whatever loop I got
>> spinning into any pitch to match a sextette band repertoire. Like if
>> I'm to provide "electronica pads" I loop the fifth and and first note
>> in at a bunch of octaves and then I can go xxx-speed and play the
>> third to hit any major or minor chord.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:19 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

> Im afraid i didnt understand a word of this Per!!!

Mark, you're such a polite chap! Admirable.
I just caught a brain fridge (oops, what's that?)

> Well, half speed means its takes twice as long (on a sampler that means one
> octave down)
> quater speed, means i takes 4 times as long (ona sampler that would be 2
> octave down... or 4.. dammit, now you got ME confused... ME... that guy
> thats impossible to confube... ....

Thanks! I see your point now. This looper goes up or down in octaves.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:44 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
> its easy to preset the track speed before beginning your loop, so its
> possible to pitch tracks 2 octaves higher when starting fromt 1/4 speed.

Yep, that's all cool. I understood Mark's post as he would rather
prefer x2 than 1/4. But that's all relative; if you can't have it all
you just make sure you start at the favorable speed. Depending on if
you want to add bass or high extra speed stuff.

Greetings from Sweden

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Any word on the looping time yet?


      

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I am very interested in beta testing this for you!

My latest project I've been working on, I have been programming a guitar =
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another guitar synth effect with it!

-Nathan
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Thanks for the tip. Looks interesting too.
Christo
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:26 PM,  <chris@christojota.de> wrote:
> Found these music links on ambientmusicblog.com
> http://hibernate-recs.com/hb07-hakobune/
> This is from the Japanes guitarist Hakobune.
> Sonic landscapes, wall of guitar layers. Great!
>
> This is my favourite, great soundscapes, the perfect soundtrack for your
> imagination watching the nice
> cover of his CD; by Rob Bridgett. Listen to ARC 01 !
> http://robbridgett.bandcamp.com/album/arc


Nice listening! I also like a lot of the stations at http://somafm.com/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
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PLOT 615 AVENU COCODY
ABIDJAN COTE D'IVOIRE
ATTN: SIR/MADAM

Chisinau,Republic Of Moldova

Please forgive me if this message comes to you as a surprise I was
divinely inspired to pick your name among other names found in the Internet
database,after series of prayers and God's direction.

I am Mrs.Deborah Richard a citizen of Republican Of Moldova.I was a farmer
by profession.But currently undergoing medical treatment.

I was married to Dr.Richard harry who was a sucessfull business man.We
went on vacation to India when he had a heart attack and we came back home.
My husband later died of that attack and a sickness know as Hemorrhage of
the brain due to shock.We have been married for eleven years without a
child.

However,before we went on this Vacation, My late husband has a lot of
business in Europe,America and Africa before he died,he deposited a trunk
boxe in a diplomatic security company,here in Abidjan Capital city of Cote
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hundred dollar bills. Last week,

my Doctor told me that I would not live for the next five months due to my
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Also for a charity organization i am incontact with in Africa.I have also
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I am not afraid of death because I know that I am going to die one
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I will give you all that you will need to open correspondence with them.If
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IF YOU ARE SINCERE AND KNOW YOU WILL DO AS I SAID GET BACK TO ME WITH YOUR
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through my nurse mrs monica shell,I have been advice to cease communication
with anyone I hope to hear from you soon.

Waiting for your urgent response

thank's from
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Hey=2C Rick=2C this sounds great! Will you post some photos and mp3s of it =
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JD
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> Date: Sat=2C 9 Jan 2010 22:39:54 -0800
> From: looppool@cruzio.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Looperlative LP-2 MINI looper unveiled at NAMM
>=20
> Rick Walker here with some exciting live looping technology news:
>=20
> I just wanted to everybody to know that* Bob Amdstadt *
> will be unveiling his new *LP-2 MINI looper* at *NAMM *
> next weekend in *Anaheim.
> *
> My brother *Bill Walker *and *I* will be demoing it (and the LP-1=20
> Looplerlative)
> at the* Looperlative Booth.6244=2C Hall A.*
>=20
> We'll be *one booth off of the main artery *of the *NAMM show*=2C visible=
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> from the
> main artery and* right across from KORG.*
>=20
> I"m really excited to demo this unit. It has a combined feature set=20
> never found in an inexpensive
> floor model stomp box pedal before.
>=20
> Here's why.
>=20
> *LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:
>=20
> *Midi Sync* * (in/out) *
> *Balanced *and *UnBalanced Inputs *(for microphones with tip/ring/sleeve=
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> jacks)
> *20 db boost option on input*
> *20+ levels of Undo*
> *Feedback *(with automatic Undo points at every 10% reduction of feedback=
)
> *Record/Overdub*
> *Play/Stop*
> *Retrigger (One Shot)*
> *Retrigger (Play Continuously)*
> *Forward/Reverse*
> *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*
> *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed*
> *Quantized Slice Replacement *at these musical increments:
> *1/8=2C 1/16=2C for 4/4*=2C *1/12=2C 1/24 *for* triplet 8ths *and*=20
> triplet 16ths*
> *1/7=2C 1/9=2C 1/10 for odd time signatures * *
> 1/64 * for *glitching*
> *Storage (and retrieval) *of up to* 8 loops *on a* 4 gig SD Card*
> *Battery Operated* (one 9v battery for 2 hours continuous play)
> *or** Wall Wart AC adapter
> Compact Size
> Snazzy Purple Color *<smile>
>=20
> And all for an as yet undetermined street price of between $250 and $300
>=20
>=20
> We hope to see you all at *NAMM booth 6244 Hall A*.
> Come check it out!
> Bob will be there for the duration of the show.=20
> Bill and I will be there on Saturday and Sunday.
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Definitely interested in testing these!  I've been working on some
MIDI-guitar focused things myself.  I find many softwares frustrating in
their assumption of keyboard-based devices (e.g., not working well with
multiple channels)  I run a Godin LGX-SA and Ax100mkII, very eager to see
what you've got going!

cheers,
noah

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:

>  I=92m in!  I=92ve got an iGuitar through a GR50.  I love vst toys. J
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> *From:* George Ludwig [mailto:georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:08 PM
>
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Guitarist plugin beta testers wanted
>
>
>
> Gareth,
>
>
>
> I'd love to check it out! Amongst my weaponry is a Godin Multiac Jazz
> through a GR-20.
>
>
>
> -George
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
>
> Hook me up! I play a Godin Spectrum via a Duet, AX50, Ableton.
>
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:
>
>
>
>  Hey guys,
> As part of my masters degree I've just created some novel guitar VST
> plugins and need some independent testers to try them and let me know wha=
t
> they think. They're a sort of cross between an effect and a guitar synth.
> You will need a MIDI interface for your guitar and a soundcard. Any old
> software that accepts VST's will do to run them.
> I currently have a 36dB octave filter module and an an intelligent ring
> modulator. The novelty is in the way these devices respond to what you're
> playing. They tune themselves to your performance offering the feel of yo=
ur
> guitar with an expanded sound palette - That's the theory anyway.
> I'd really appreciate input from anyone who's interested.
>
> Gareth
>
> ps There will be free copies for testers if ever I decide to release
> them...
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> -George
>
> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
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Definitely interested in testing these!=A0 I&#39;ve been working on some MI=
DI-guitar focused things myself.=A0 I find many softwares frustrating in th=
eir assumption of keyboard-based devices (e.g., not working well with multi=
ple channels)=A0 I run a Godin LGX-SA and Ax100mkII, very eager to see what=
 you&#39;ve got going!<br>
<br>cheers,<br>noah<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 =
at 7:20 PM, Tony K <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bigtonyk@gmail.c=
om">bigtonyk@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt =
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">










<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US">

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25);">I=92m in!=A0 I=92ve got an iGuitar through a GR50.=A0 I love vst toys=
. </span><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb=
(31, 73, 125);">J</span><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);"></span></p>


<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25);">=A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25);">Tony</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25);">=A0</span></p>

<div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 22=
3) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt medium medium=
; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;">

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b>=
<span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;"> George Ludwig
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ge=
orgeludwigmusic@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:08 PM<div class=3D"im"><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D=
"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
</div><b>Subject:</b> Re: OT: Guitarist plugin beta testers wanted</span></=
p>

</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Gareth,</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;d love to check it out! Amongst my weaponry is=
 a Godin
Multiac Jazz through=A0a GR-20.</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;">-George</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Chris Sewell &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:lunamusic@mac.com" target=3D"_blank">lunamusic@mac.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:</p>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hook me up! I play a Godin Spectrum via a Duet, AX50=
,
Ableton.=A0 </p>

<div>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Jan 10, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:<=
/p>

</div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize: 10pt; color: black;">Hey guys,=A0<br>
As part of my masters degree I&#39;ve just created some novel guitar VST pl=
ugins
and need some independent testers to try them and let me know what they thi=
nk.
They&#39;re a sort of cross between an effect and a guitar synth. You will =
need a
MIDI interface for your guitar and a soundcard. Any old software that accep=
ts
VST&#39;s will do to run them.=A0<br>
I currently have a 36dB octave filter module and an an intelligent ring
modulator. The novelty is in the way these devices respond to what you&#39;=
re
playing. They tune themselves to your performance offering the feel of your
guitar with an expanded sound palette - That&#39;s the theory anyway.<br>
I&#39;d really appreciate input from anyone who&#39;s interested.<br>
<br>
Gareth=A0<br>
<br>
ps There will be free copies for testers if ever I decide to release them..=
.</span></p>

<div class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align: center;" align=3D"center"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: black;">

<hr width=3D"100%" align=3D"center" size=3D"2">

</span></div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: black;">We wa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

</div>

</div>

</div>

</div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br clear=3D"all">
<br>
-- <br>
-George<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic</a></p>

</div></div></div>

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http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2010/100109.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts.  When
Bill is at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect
to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an
eclectic mix of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  Bill also hosts Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.

                Show #165                January 9, 2010.

On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music
magazine.  Each contemporary issue comes with a CD.  However, the early
issues came with a cassette.  The cassettes from issues one through
thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic
slip covers with artwork and track details.  Details are at:
http://sequencesmagazine.com

Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
VA [Enterphase]      The Blue Shift       Sequences No. 8
VA [Robert Fox]      White Man Dreaming   Sequences No. 8
VA [Emphasis]        Escape from Daily    Sequences No. 8
                       Routine
E=Motion             Mind Transmission    Telepath (Underwater Music)
Alpha Wave Movement  Full Circle          Cosmic Mandala (HRR)
                       (Ohn... Om)
Erik Wollo and       Terrestrial          Arcadia Borealis (DiN)
  Bernhard             Magnetism
  Wostheinrich
Seren Ffordd         *                    Stellar Nurseries (Hypnos
                                            Secret Sounds)


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Terry Oldfield       Spiral Waves         Sacred Touch (New Earth)
Terry Oldfield       Inseperable Paths    Zen (New Earth)
Unsuk Chin           Rocana Violin        Rocana (Analekta)
                       Concerto


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Dream Theater        Take the Time        Greatest Hit (Rhino)
Dream Theater        Another Day          Greatest Hit (Rhino)
VA [Man Crayon]      Is This the Price    Purgatorio (Musea)
                       for Redemption?
VA [Tabula           A Varazs Fa Alatt    Purgatorio (Musea)
  Smaragdina]
Martin Orford        Grand Designs        The Old Road (Giant Electric
                                            Pea)

 * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill
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I recently played my first gig where I was playing with an ensemble, and was
using my looping rig with wireless IEM. I had  a heck of a time not only
hearing other people, but also trying to judge my stage volume...and if my
amp was even making noise!

So now I'm thinking about how to get ambient sound in to the system. I am
using Shure earbuds, and they make a device to let in some ambient noise
("push to hear"). And I even have one, but 1. it's a piece of crap, and the
ambient volume control failed within the first few minutes of use and 2.
when you engage the ambient mic, it lowers the volume of the main source,
which causes various problems.

I thought about putting a mini mic in my audio interface, and that would
give me a lot of control, except for which direction the mic is pointing.

How has everyone else solved this problem?

-- 
-George

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<div>I recently played my first gig where I was playing=A0with an ensemble,=
 and was using my looping rig with wireless IEM. I had=A0 a heck of a time =
not only hearing other people, but also trying to judge my stage volume...a=
nd if my amp was even making noise!</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>So now I&#39;m thinking about how to get ambient sound in to the syste=
m. I am using Shure earbuds, and they make a device to let in some ambient =
noise (&quot;push to hear&quot;). And I even have one, but 1. it&#39;s a pi=
ece of crap, and the ambient volume control failed within the first few min=
utes of use and 2. when you engage the ambient mic, it lowers the volume of=
 the main source, which causes various problems.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>I thought about putting=A0a mini mic in my audio interface, and that w=
ould give me a lot of control, except for which direction the mic is pointi=
ng.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>How has everyone else solved this problem? </div>
<div><br>-- <br>-George<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/georgeludw=
igmusic">http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic</a><br></div>

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George Ludwig schrieb:
> So now I'm thinking about how to get ambient sound in to the system. I 
> am using Shure earbuds, and they make a device to let in some ambient 
> noise ("push to hear"). And I even have one, but 1. it's a piece of 
> crap, and the ambient volume control failed within the first few 
> minutes of use and 2. when you engage the ambient mic, it lowers the 
> volume of the main source, which causes various problems.
>  
> I thought about putting a mini mic in my audio interface, and that 
> would give me a lot of control, except for which direction the mic is 
> pointing.
It of course depends on what your setup is able to do, but as you 
describe, an additional microphone to pick up the room is (for me) the 
way to go.
I recommend a PZM one, and depending how you want it (i.e. if you want 
to hear the stage as well or only the audience - from what you describe 
I assume the former) use a half-omni or half-cardioid.
Had good experiences with a Crown PZM, though not specifically for that 
application.

          Rainer

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Rainer,

I was thinking, the major drawback to this is, you can't wallk around and
spot-check volume, since your only pickup source is fixed in space. I was
digging a little deeper and found this:
http://www.sensaphonics.com/prod_3d_ambient.html This looks like a perfect
solution, though I wish they would publish a price!

Has anyone used the sensaphonics stuff?

-George

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com
> wrote:

> George Ludwig schrieb:
>
> So now I'm thinking about how to get ambient sound in to the system. I am
>> using Shure earbuds, and they make a device to let in some ambient noise
>> ("push to hear"). And I even have one, but 1. it's a piece of crap, and the
>> ambient volume control failed within the first few minutes of use and 2.
>> when you engage the ambient mic, it lowers the volume of the main source,
>> which causes various problems.
>>  I thought about putting a mini mic in my audio interface, and that would
>> give me a lot of control, except for which direction the mic is pointing.
>>
> It of course depends on what your setup is able to do, but as you describe,
> an additional microphone to pick up the room is (for me) the way to go.
> I recommend a PZM one, and depending how you want it (i.e. if you want to
> hear the stage as well or only the audience - from what you describe I
> assume the former) use a half-omni or half-cardioid.
> Had good experiences with a Crown PZM, though not specifically for that
> application.
>
>         Rainer
>
> --
> http://moinlabs.de
> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
>
>


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<div>Rainer,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I was thinking, the major drawback to this is, you can&#39;t wallk aro=
und and spot-check volume, since your only pickup source is fixed in space.=
 I was digging a little deeper and found this: <a href=3D"http://www.sensap=
honics.com/prod_3d_ambient.html">http://www.sensaphonics.com/prod_3d_ambien=
t.html</a>=A0This looks like a perfect solution, though I wish they would p=
ublish a price!</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Has anyone used the sensaphonics stuff?</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-George</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Rainer Straschi=
ll <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com">moinso=
und@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">George Ludwig schrieb:=20
<div class=3D"im"><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">So now I&#39;m thinking about ho=
w to get ambient sound in to the system. I am using Shure earbuds, and they=
 make a device to let in some ambient noise (&quot;push to hear&quot;). And=
 I even have one, but 1. it&#39;s a piece of crap, and the ambient volume c=
ontrol failed within the first few minutes of use and 2. when you engage th=
e ambient mic, it lowers the volume of the main source, which causes variou=
s problems.<br>
=A0I thought about putting a mini mic in my audio interface, and that would=
 give me a lot of control, except for which direction the mic is pointing.<=
br></blockquote></div>It of course depends on what your setup is able to do=
, but as you describe, an additional microphone to pick up the room is (for=
 me) the way to go.<br>
I recommend a PZM one, and depending how you want it (i.e. if you want to h=
ear the stage as well or only the audience - from what you describe I assum=
e the former) use a half-omni or half-cardioid.<br>Had good experiences wit=
h a Crown PZM, though not specifically for that application.<br>
<br>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>-- <br><a href=3D=
"http://moinlabs.de/" target=3D"_blank">http://moinlabs.de</a><br>Follow me=
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<br></font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-George<br><=
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Yes this sounds great!!! Running on battery, yesssss!!
I hope we'll have soon more info. I'm curious.
8 loops on 4Go ??? I guess all the undo layers are saved as well? Does =
this means we can do "multitracking" (overdub+get back the different =
tracks un-merged) with it?=20
We'll see in a couple of days ;-)

Ben.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hey, Rick, this sounds great! Will you post some photos and mp3s of it =
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  JD
  =20
  > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 22:39:54 -0800
  > From: looppool@cruzio.com
  > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
  > Subject: Looperlative LP-2 MINI looper unveiled at NAMM
  >=20
  > Rick Walker here with some exciting live looping technology news:
  >=20
  > I just wanted to everybody to know that* Bob Amdstadt *
  > will be unveiling his new *LP-2 MINI looper* at *NAMM *
  > next weekend in *Anaheim.
  > *
  > My brother *Bill Walker *and *I* will be demoing it (and the LP-1=20
  > Looplerlative)
  > at the* Looperlative Booth.6244, Hall A.*
  >=20
  > We'll be *one booth off of the main artery *of the *NAMM show*, =
visible=20
  > from the
  > main artery and* right across from KORG.*
  >=20
  > I"m really excited to demo this unit. It has a combined feature set=20
  > never found in an inexpensive
  > floor model stomp box pedal before.
  >=20
  > Here's why.
  >=20
  > *LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:
  >=20
  > *Midi Sync* * (in/out) *
  > *Balanced *and *UnBalanced Inputs *(for microphones with =
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  > jacks)
  > *20 db boost option on input*
  > *20+ levels of Undo*
  > *Feedback *(with automatic Undo points at every 10% reduction of =
feedback)
  > *Record/Overdub*
  > *Play/Stop*
  > *Retrigger (One Shot)*
  > *Retrigger (Play Continuously)*
  > *Forward/Reverse*
  > *1/2 Speed/Double Speed*
  > *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed*
  > *Quantized Slice Replacement *at these musical increments:
  > *1/8, 1/16, for 4/4*, *1/12, 1/24 *for* triplet 8ths *and*=20
  > triplet 16ths*
  > *1/7, 1/9, 1/10 for odd time signatures * *
  > 1/64 * for *glitching*
  > *Storage (and retrieval) *of up to* 8 loops *on a* 4 gig SD Card*
  > *Battery Operated* (one 9v battery for 2 hours continuous play)
  > *or** Wall Wart AC adapter
  > Compact Size
  > Snazzy Purple Color *<smile>
  >=20
  > And all for an as yet undetermined street price of between $250 and =
$300
  >=20
  >=20
  > We hope to see you all at *NAMM booth 6244 Hall A*.
  > Come check it out!
  > Bob will be there for the duration of the show.=20
  > Bill and I will be there on Saturday and Sunday.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>We'll see in a couple of days ;-)</FONT></DIV>
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Rick Walker wrote:
> Rick Walker here with some exciting live looping technology news:
> 
> 
> Here's why.
> 
> *LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:
> 

Probably the most obvious thing to ask is: 

Is LP-2 going to have updateable software like the LP-1?

andy




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As a freelance guitarist I have done some month long tours now and
then, playing like almost every night as part of a five to eight piece
band. I then totally favor acoustic monitoring on stage, using a
really small guitar amp like a dual ten element Gallien-Keuger, placed
very close to me and often not directed towards the audience but more
set up for my own on-stage monitoring (miked through PA of course, and
sound engineer handling mix levels). This makes it possible for me to
alter my "monitoring level" vs "band noise" by simply moving my head
(with ears) in or out of my little amp's speaker focus. I would never
trust in-ear listening solutions in a live situation, at least not
with for the tours I've been on where everybody in the band has to be
receptive and "on the go" for any song the vocalist might suggest
("Let's now do song four: ono-two-three-four..").

On big stages there use to be a backline system with loud side-fills
and then I make mental notes at soundcheck if the level will be enough
for running around on stage and maybe walk over to the drummer,
leaving my "small guitar amp sweet spot". I usually keep my local
sweet-spot just a little louder than the side-fill's general full
stage field. That way I know that if I get into problem with a funky
pattern (that needs to be played tight vs the drumming) I can always
go to my sweet-spot and realign my mental tempo reference.

All this applies to live looping as well. But it is harder with
looping because you cant play just one test note to realign yourself
to the ever changing "sound map". The looper just keeps playing and if
you don't know exactly how your loop sounds it may be difficult to
hear what is your loop and what is other noise. So in order to refresh
your hearing you need a technical control setup that will allow you to
instantly change your loop's sound, in order to detect it in a blink
and carry out corrections. Such quick-fix strategies may be Instant
REvers of the loop. Or doing a STUTTER effect for the last eight notes
before the loop point (called "non-quantized re-trigger" by some).

When live looping instruments that doesn't have a guitar amp (like EWI
or flute) I have so far relied on the house PA. I'm about to start
playing regularly as "live looping electronician" with a band and I
will definitely favor a small local speaker rather than an in-ear
solution (laptop + EWI, doing dub stuff of other band members,
"keyboard parts" and weird electronic sounds).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:41 AM, George Ludwig
<georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> I recently played my first gig where I was playing=C2=A0with an ensemble,=
 and was
> using my looping rig with wireless IEM. I had=C2=A0 a heck of a time not =
only
> hearing other people, but also trying to judge my stage volume...and if m=
y
> amp was even making noise!
>
> So now I'm thinking about how to get ambient sound in to the system. I am
> using Shure earbuds, and they make a device to let in some ambient noise
> ("push to hear"). And I even have one, but 1. it's a piece of crap, and t=
he
> ambient volume control failed within the first few minutes of use and 2.
> when you engage the ambient mic, it lowers the volume of the main source,
> which causes various problems.
>
> I thought about putting=C2=A0a mini mic in my audio interface, and that w=
ould
> give me a lot of control, except for which direction the mic is pointing.
>
> How has everyone else solved this problem?

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On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> . I then totally favor acoustic monitoring on stage, using a
> really small guitar amp like a dual ten element Gallien-Keuger,
>

I second this approach...for years my band Cranes were feeding everything
into masses of DI boxes, and not using amps at all, the sound would be
generated using onstage monitors, but the mixing guy... This worked when we
could a) play in big places, where the sound from pone monitor could be
effectively be set to how YOU wanted it, and no interfer with other peoples
mixes, and b) when we took out own PA on the road, cos the mix roughly
stayed the same every night... But then you get to a small club, and it all
goes wrong. then you HAVE TO HAVE your own "place" on the stage, where you
can hear yourself, and as Per calls it, "mis yourself" by moving around.

Everything became much easier when we went "old skool" and all got amps..
Oh.. and got an electronic kit.
Drum kits always fuck up the sound in a small club especially if you have a
singer that whispers...

<loop-start>
Mic is turned up loud to hear her (feedback problems) she steps out of the
way and it points where? Straight at the kit... kit gets loud, drum sound
sounds bad, drums get turned up in the mix, band gets turned up in the mix
to compensate, mic becomes too quiet... singer cant be heard... what to do?
Turn up the mic... um..
</loop-end>.

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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Per Boysen=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddi=
ng-left: 1ex;">

. I then totally favor acoustic monitoring on stage, using a<br>
really small guitar amp like a dual ten element Gallien-Keuger,<br clear=3D=
"all"></blockquote><div><br>I second this approach...for years my band Cran=
es were feeding everything into masses of DI boxes, and not using amps at a=
ll, the sound would be generated using onstage monitors, but the mixing guy=
... This worked when we could a) play in big places, where the sound from p=
one monitor could be effectively be set to how YOU wanted it, and no interf=
er with other peoples mixes, and b) when we took out own PA on the road, co=
s the mix roughly stayed the same every night... But then you get to a smal=
l club, and it all goes wrong. then you HAVE TO HAVE your own &quot;place&q=
uot; on the stage, where you can hear yourself, and as Per calls it, &quot;=
mis yourself&quot; by moving around.<br>

<br>Everything became much easier when we went &quot;old skool&quot; and al=
l got amps.. Oh.. and got an electronic kit. <br>Drum kits always fuck up t=
he sound in a small club especially if you have a singer that whispers... <=
br>

<br>&lt;loop-start&gt;<br>Mic is turned up loud to hear her (feedback probl=
ems) she steps out of the way and it points where? Straight at the kit... k=
it gets loud, drum sound sounds bad, drums get turned up in the mix, band g=
ets turned up in the mix to compensate, mic becomes too quiet... singer can=
t be heard... what to do? Turn up the mic... um..<br>

&lt;/loop-end&gt;.</div></div><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancomb=
e.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094"=
>http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/m=
arkfrancombe">http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">http://www.myspace.com/mar=
kfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSync=
h%20Non%20Synch">http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy=
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I am selling a number of wah wah pedals. All work fine and look in top
shape. Prices are fair but if you want to buy more than one (or any of the
other things I am selling) I'll gladly listen to offers.

1. 1970s Univox Uniwah - $100. Classic. Looks in good shape. Three "c"
batteries included :)
I can't find a model # on this so I'm not sure if it's the UW1 or UW2. It
has the footswitch button on the right hands side under the pedal rocker
if that helps.
it looks like this one:
http://www.bostonguitar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BGWI&Product_Code=VE-MISC-UNIVOX-UNIWAH&Category_Code=VE-MISC

2. Morley Dual Bass Wah - $75 - Awesome and beefy pedal. Built like a tank
and made for the funk as well as more laid back uses. Works great on
guitar and keyboards as well.
Some reviews here:
http://www.talkbass.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/54/cat/500

3. DAED "Juicy" Wah - Boutique souped up crybaby. Orange Drop cap, true
bypass, and two knobs; one for voice (wah<-> woh) and the second for gain.
The DAED design is the ONLY mod that takes the gain into overdrive
territory which makes this a wet, juicy, monster of a filter. Made
specifically for processing anything from guitar to drum machines, bass,
keys, voice, etc.
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I also do these mods if you supply the crybaby pedal for $45.

4. Ibanez Weeping Demon wah - $65. As new in box with manual.
Extraordinarily versatile wah with tweaks for filter, sound, rocker
options, etc etc.
Some Reviews:
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/guitar_effects/ibanez/wd7_weeping_demon/index.html

I have pictures of all of them and will be updating here:
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Per,

Thanks for the the info! One of the reasons why I like the IEM so much is
that I can listen to a click track for the looper that the audience doesn't
hear. Also, what I discovered the other night, if we're improvising I can
silence the output that the audience hears until I figure out something
that's going to sound good. ;) Besides the fact that I can totally control
how much volume I'm exposing my ears to, which is also very important.

I'm surprised that Sensaphonics is the only company that makes an IEM
solution that has built-in ambient mics. It's a really trick solution, where
the mics are actually in the earbuds, and deliver a normal hearing
experience (i.e. with full 3-D cues as to where sound is coming from). It's
designed to let you talk on stage with other musicians etc.

But I found that the system starts at 2000USD! Pretty freaking expensive.

-George




On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a freelance guitarist I have done some month long tours now and
> then, playing like almost every night as part of a five to eight piece
> band. I then totally favor acoustic monitoring on stage, using a
> really small guitar amp like a dual ten element Gallien-Keuger, placed
> very close to me and often not directed towards the audience but more
> set up for my own on-stage monitoring (miked through PA of course, and
> sound engineer handling mix levels). This makes it possible for me to
> alter my "monitoring level" vs "band noise" by simply moving my head
> (with ears) in or out of my little amp's speaker focus. I would never
> trust in-ear listening solutions in a live situation, at least not
> with for the tours I've been on where everybody in the band has to be
> receptive and "on the go" for any song the vocalist might suggest
> ("Let's now do song four: ono-two-three-four..").
>
> On big stages there use to be a backline system with loud side-fills
> and then I make mental notes at soundcheck if the level will be enough
> for running around on stage and maybe walk over to the drummer,
> leaving my "small guitar amp sweet spot". I usually keep my local
> sweet-spot just a little louder than the side-fill's general full
> stage field. That way I know that if I get into problem with a funky
> pattern (that needs to be played tight vs the drumming) I can always
> go to my sweet-spot and realign my mental tempo reference.
>
> All this applies to live looping as well. But it is harder with
> looping because you cant play just one test note to realign yourself
> to the ever changing "sound map". The looper just keeps playing and if
> you don't know exactly how your loop sounds it may be difficult to
> hear what is your loop and what is other noise. So in order to refresh
> your hearing you need a technical control setup that will allow you to
> instantly change your loop's sound, in order to detect it in a blink
> and carry out corrections. Such quick-fix strategies may be Instant
> REvers of the loop. Or doing a STUTTER effect for the last eight notes
> before the loop point (called "non-quantized re-trigger" by some).
>
> When live looping instruments that doesn't have a guitar amp (like EWI
> or flute) I have so far relied on the house PA. I'm about to start
> playing regularly as "live looping electronician" with a band and I
> will definitely favor a small local speaker rather than an in-ear
> solution (laptop + EWI, doing dub stuff of other band members,
> "keyboard parts" and weird electronic sounds).
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:41 AM, George Ludwig
> <georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I recently played my first gig where I was playing with an ensemble, and
> was
> > using my looping rig with wireless IEM. I had  a heck of a time not only
> > hearing other people, but also trying to judge my stage volume...and if
> my
> > amp was even making noise!
> >
> > So now I'm thinking about how to get ambient sound in to the system. I am
> > using Shure earbuds, and they make a device to let in some ambient noise
> > ("push to hear"). And I even have one, but 1. it's a piece of crap, and
> the
> > ambient volume control failed within the first few minutes of use and 2.
> > when you engage the ambient mic, it lowers the volume of the main source,
> > which causes various problems.
> >
> > I thought about putting a mini mic in my audio interface, and that would
> > give me a lot of control, except for which direction the mic is pointing.
> >
> > How has everyone else solved this problem?
>
>


-- 
-George

http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic

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<div>Per,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Thanks for the the info! One of the reasons why I like the IEM so much=
 is that I can listen to a click track for the looper that the audience doe=
sn&#39;t hear. Also, what I discovered the other night, if we&#39;re improv=
ising I can silence the output that the audience hears until I figure out s=
omething that&#39;s going to sound good. ;) Besides the fact that I can tot=
ally control how much volume I&#39;m exposing my ears to, which is also ver=
y important.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;m surprised that Sensaphonics is the only company that makes an =
IEM solution that has built-in ambient mics. It&#39;s a really trick soluti=
on, where the mics are actually in the earbuds,=A0and deliver a normal hear=
ing experience=A0(i.e. with full 3-D cues as to where sound is coming from)=
. It&#39;s designed to let you talk on stage with other musicians etc.</div=
>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>But I found that the system starts at 2000USD! Pretty freaking expensi=
ve.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-George</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Per Boysen <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">As a freelance guitarist I have =
done some month long tours now and<br>then, playing like almost every night=
 as part of a five to eight piece<br>
band. I then totally favor acoustic monitoring on stage, using a<br>really =
small guitar amp like a dual ten element Gallien-Keuger, placed<br>very clo=
se to me and often not directed towards the audience but more<br>set up for=
 my own on-stage monitoring (miked through PA of course, and<br>
sound engineer handling mix levels). This makes it possible for me to<br>al=
ter my &quot;monitoring level&quot; vs &quot;band noise&quot; by simply mov=
ing my head<br>(with ears) in or out of my little amp&#39;s speaker focus. =
I would never<br>
trust in-ear listening solutions in a live situation, at least not<br>with =
for the tours I&#39;ve been on where everybody in the band has to be<br>rec=
eptive and &quot;on the go&quot; for any song the vocalist might suggest<br=
>
(&quot;Let&#39;s now do song four: ono-two-three-four..&quot;).<br><br>On b=
ig stages there use to be a backline system with loud side-fills<br>and the=
n I make mental notes at soundcheck if the level will be enough<br>for runn=
ing around on stage and maybe walk over to the drummer,<br>
leaving my &quot;small guitar amp sweet spot&quot;. I usually keep my local=
<br>sweet-spot just a little louder than the side-fill&#39;s general full<b=
r>stage field. That way I know that if I get into problem with a funky<br>
pattern (that needs to be played tight vs the drumming) I can always<br>go =
to my sweet-spot and realign my mental tempo reference.<br><br>All this app=
lies to live looping as well. But it is harder with<br>looping because you =
cant play just one test note to realign yourself<br>
to the ever changing &quot;sound map&quot;. The looper just keeps playing a=
nd if<br>you don&#39;t know exactly how your loop sounds it may be difficul=
t to<br>hear what is your loop and what is other noise. So in order to refr=
esh<br>
your hearing you need a technical control setup that will allow you to<br>i=
nstantly change your loop&#39;s sound, in order to detect it in a blink<br>=
and carry out corrections. Such quick-fix strategies may be Instant<br>
REvers of the loop. Or doing a STUTTER effect for the last eight notes<br>b=
efore the loop point (called &quot;non-quantized re-trigger&quot; by some).=
<br><br>When live looping instruments that doesn&#39;t have a guitar amp (l=
ike EWI<br>
or flute) I have so far relied on the house PA. I&#39;m about to start<br>p=
laying regularly as &quot;live looping electronician&quot; with a band and =
I<br>will definitely favor a small local speaker rather than an in-ear<br>
solution (laptop + EWI, doing dub stuff of other band members,<br>&quot;key=
board parts&quot; and weird electronic sounds).<br><br>Greetings from Swede=
n<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>Per Boysen<br><a href=3D"http://www.boysen=
.se/" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</=
a><br></font>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br><br>On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:41 AM, George Ludwi=
g<br>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com">georgeludwigmusic@g=
mail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; I recently played my first gig where I was =
playing=A0with an ensemble, and was<br>
&gt; using my looping rig with wireless IEM. I had=A0 a heck of a time not =
only<br>&gt; hearing other people, but also trying to judge my stage volume=
...and if my<br>&gt; amp was even making noise!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; So now I&#3=
9;m thinking about how to get ambient sound in to the system. I am<br>
&gt; using Shure earbuds, and they make a device to let in some ambient noi=
se<br>&gt; (&quot;push to hear&quot;). And I even have one, but 1. it&#39;s=
 a piece of crap, and the<br>&gt; ambient volume control failed within the =
first few minutes of use and 2.<br>
&gt; when you engage the ambient mic, it lowers the volume of the main sour=
ce,<br>&gt; which causes various problems.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I thought about =
putting=A0a mini mic in my audio interface, and that would<br>&gt; give me =
a lot of control, except for which direction the mic is pointing.<br>
&gt;<br>&gt; How has everyone else solved this problem?<br><br></div></div>=
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-George<br><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic">http://www.myspace.com/george=
ludwigmusic</a><br>

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On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:01 PM, George Ludwig
<georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the the info! One of the reasons why I like the IEM so much is
> that I can listen to a click track for the looper that the audience doesn=
't
> hear.

Like a DJ doing beat matching! Not the most effective way to turn on
an audience ;-)

Inviting the audience to take part in the the full music/sound
creation process may sometimes win your more fans than providing an
audio presentation of the music that sounds perfect from the first
second till the coda.

> Besides the fact that I can totally control
> how much volume I'm exposing my ears to, which is also very important.

That's a very good thing. With my
all-acoustic-bleeding-into-the-sound-field method I'm wearing custom
moulded minus 15 dB silicon in-ear plugs. They block volume but keep a
fairly correct frequency respons. And they are soft to prevent a
deafening glitch to open if you should sing or take a zip of a drink.


> I'm surprised that Sensaphonics is the only company that makes an IEM
> solution that has built-in ambient mics. It's a really trick solution, wh=
ere
> the mics are actually in the earbuds,=C2=A0and deliver a normal hearing
> experience=C2=A0(i.e. with full 3-D cues as to where sound is coming from=
). It's
> designed to let you talk on stage with other musicians etc.
>
> But I found that the system starts at 2000USD! Pretty freaking expensive.

Ouch! A related product I heard about is these covering cans that also
have microphones on the outside. They are adding a phase inverted tiny
signal of the outer world to the music you are listening to and since
this happens only for one ear the outer noise is then being phase
cancelled.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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waping song parts!=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Rue=
lle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> schrieb am Di, 12.1.2010:=0A=0A> Von: Ru=
elle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr>=0A> Betreff: Re: Looperlative LP-2 MINI=
 looper    unveiled at NAMM=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>=
 Datum: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2010, 0:11=0A> =0A> =0A>  =0A> #yiv1140714158 =
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ILY:Verdana;}=0A> =0A> =0A>  =0A>  =0A> Yes this sounds great!!! Running on=
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ved =0A> as well? Does this means we can do=0A> "multitracking" (overdub+ge=
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lative LP-2 MINI looper unveiled at NAMM=0A> > =0A> > Rick =0A>   Walker he=
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 I just wanted to everybody to know that* Bob Amdstadt *=0A> > will be =0A>=
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Just wanted to chime in and say-I'd buy one. Sounds like it will do way mor=
e then my current lowly Digitech Jamman.
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--- On Tue, 1/12/10, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-2 MINI looper unveiled at NAMM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 12:12 PM


the simple "redo" would be awesome excellent for songwritting looping and s=
waping song parts!
cheers
www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


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> Hey, Rick, this sounds great! Will you post some
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> JD
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> >=20
> >=20
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> > *20 db boost option=20
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> > *20+ levels of Undo*
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> > *Retrigger (One Shot)*
> > *Retrigger (Play=20
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> > *Forward/Reverse*
> > *1/2 Speed/Double=20
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> > *Quantized Slice=20
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> > 1/64 * for *glitching*
> > *Storage=20
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> > *Battery=20
>=A0=A0=A0Operated* (one 9v battery for 2 hours continuous play)
> > *or** Wall Wart=20
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> > Compact Size
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top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Just wanted to chime in and say-I'd buy =
one. Sounds like it will do way more then my current lowly Digitech Jamman.=
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>P<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 1/12/10, L.Angulo <I>&lt;labaloops@yahoo.com&g=
t;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: L.Angulo &lt;labaloops@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>Sub=
ject: Re: Looperlative LP-2 MINI looper unveiled at NAMM<BR>To: Loopers-Del=
ight@loopers-delight.com<BR>Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 12:12 PM<BR><B=
R>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>the simple "redo" would be awesome excellent for son=
gwritting looping and swaping song parts!<BR>cheers<BR>www.myspace.com/luis=
angulocom<BR><BR><BR>--- Ruelle Benoit &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc1102.mail=
.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dbenoitruelle@yahoo.fr" ymailto=3D"mailto:benoitr=
uelle@yahoo.fr">benoitruelle@yahoo.fr</A>&gt; schrieb am Di, 12.1.2010:<BR>=
<BR>&gt; Von: Ruelle Benoit &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/=
mc/compose?to=3Dbenoitruelle@yahoo.fr" ymailto=3D"mailto:benoitruelle@yahoo=
.fr">benoitruelle@yahoo.fr</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; Betreff: Re: Looperlative LP-2 M=
INI looper&nbsp; &nbsp; unveiled at NAMM<BR>&gt; An: <A href=3D"http://us.m=
c1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com</A><BR>&gt; Datum: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2010, 0:11<BR>&gt; <=
BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; #yiv1140714158 .hmmessage P {<BR>&gt;
 PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-T=
OP:0px;}<BR>&gt; #yiv1140714158 {<BR>&gt; FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Verdan=
a;}<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; Yes this sounds=
 great!!! Running on<BR>&gt; battery, <BR>&gt; yesssss!!<BR>&gt; I hope we'=
ll have soon more<BR>&gt; info. I'm <BR>&gt; curious.<BR>&gt; 8 loops on 4G=
o ??? I guess all the<BR>&gt; undo layers are saved <BR>&gt; as well? Does =
this means we can do<BR>&gt; "multitracking" (overdub+get back the <BR>&gt;=
 different tracks un-merged) with it? <BR>&gt; We'll see in a couple of day=
s<BR>&gt; ;-)<BR>&gt; &nbsp;<BR>&gt; Ben.<BR>&gt; &nbsp;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;----- Original Message<BR>&gt; ----- <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;From: <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeremy <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;devros=
 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To: <A href=3D"http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/m=
c/compose?to=3Dloopers-delight@loopers-delight.com"
 ymailto=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com">loopers-delight@loo=
pers-delight.com</A><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;Sent: Monday,<BR>&gt; January 11, 2010 5:28 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Subject: RE:<BR>&gt; Looperlative LP-2 MINI <B=
R>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;looper unveiled at NAMM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<B=
R>&gt; Hey, Rick, this sounds great! Will you post some<BR>&gt; photos <BR>=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and&nbsp;mp3s of it in action?<BR>&gt; JD<BR>&gt; &nb=
sp;<BR>&gt; &gt; Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;22:39:54 -=
0800<BR>&gt; &gt; From: <A href=3D"http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compo=
se?to=3Dlooppool@cruzio.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppoo=
l@cruzio.com</A><BR>&gt; &gt; To: <A href=3D"http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.co=
m/mc/compose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:Lo=
opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</A><=
BR>&gt;
 &gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Subject: Looperlative LP-2 MINI looper unve=
iled at NAMM<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Rick <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Walk=
er here with some exciting live looping technology<BR>&gt; news:<BR>&gt; &g=
t; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I just wanted to everybody to kn=
ow that* Bob Amdstadt *<BR>&gt; &gt; will be <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;unve=
iling his new *LP-2 MINI looper* at *NAMM *<BR>&gt; &gt; next weekend in <B=
R>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Anaheim.<BR>&gt; &gt; *<BR>&gt; &gt; My brother *B=
ill Walker *and *I* will be demoing <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;it (and the L=
P-1 <BR>&gt; &gt; Looplerlative)<BR>&gt; &gt; at the* Looperlative <BR>&gt;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Booth.6244, Hall A.*<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; We'll be =
*one booth off of the main <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;artery *of the *NAMM s=
how*, visible <BR>&gt; &gt; from the<BR>&gt; &gt; main artery and* <BR>&gt;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;right across from KORG.*<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt;
 &gt; I"m really excited to demo this <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;unit. It ha=
s a combined feature set <BR>&gt; &gt; never found in an <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;inexpensive<BR>&gt; &gt; floor model stomp box pedal before.<BR>&gt=
; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Here's why.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR=
>&gt; &gt; *LP-2 MINI looper *feature set:<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&=
gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Midi Sync* * (in/out) *<BR>&gt; &gt; *Balanced *and *=
UnBalanced Inputs *(for <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;microphones with tip/ring=
/sleeve <BR>&gt; &gt; jacks)<BR>&gt; &gt; *20 db boost option <BR>&gt;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;on input*<BR>&gt; &gt; *20+ levels of Undo*<BR>&gt; &gt; *Feed=
back *(with automatic Undo <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;points at every 10% re=
duction of feedback)<BR>&gt; &gt; *Record/Overdub*<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Play/Stop*<BR>&gt; &gt; *Retrigger (One Shot)*<BR>&gt; &gt;=
 *Retrigger (Play <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Continuously)*<BR>&gt;
 &gt; *Forward/Reverse*<BR>&gt; &gt; *1/2 Speed/Double <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;Speed*<BR>&gt; &gt; *1/4 Speed/Quadruple Speed*<BR>&gt; &gt; *Quantiz=
ed Slice <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Replacement *at these musical increments=
:<BR>&gt; &gt; *1/8, 1/16, for 4/4*, *1/12, <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1/24 =
*for* triplet 8ths *and* <BR>&gt; &gt; triplet 16ths*<BR>&gt; &gt; *1/7, 1/=
9, 1/10 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for odd time signatures * *<BR>&gt; &gt; =
1/64 * for *glitching*<BR>&gt; &gt; *Storage <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(and=
 retrieval) *of up to* 8 loops *on a* 4 gig SD Card*<BR>&gt; &gt; *Battery =
<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Operated* (one 9v battery for 2 hours continuous =
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>To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>Subject: Looperlative LP-2 MINI looper    unveiled at NAMM
>From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
>Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:39:54 -0800
>
>Rick Walker here with some exciting live looping technology news:
>I just wanted to everybody to know that* Bob Amdstadt *
>will be unveiling his new *LP-2 MINI looper* at *NAMM *
>next weekend in *Anaheim.
8<
>I"m really excited to demo this unit.  It has a combined feature set=20
>never found in an inexpensive
>floor model stomp box pedal before.
>Here's why.

I've been searching and waiting for a decent looper pedal, with midi
time and CC controls, memory card, undo/redo, most of the features
listed, it looked like what I'm after is finally coming to fruition. =20
But I need stereo.  =20
Probably too early to ask, but are there any plans to put out a true
stereo in/stereo out (instrument level) version of the LP2?
Cheers,
-- G.

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We the members of financial accounting department are very pleased to inform you today that your Fund has been converted into an (ATM Card valued 2.5Million Dollars) Card Number:4278763100030014) in your favor, your personal Identification Number is (822) which you have to forward to our official agent in Benin for identification before the delivery will take place. 

 

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Hello Friend,

My name is Mr. Opoku sampson. I am the regional manager of Standard Chartered Bank of Ghana Tarkwa Branch, in the western region of Ghana .


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anybody running mobius in ableton?  every time i try to open it, i get an
error message and then live shuts down.

help?

- jim

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anybody running mobius in ableton?=A0 every time i try to open it, i get an=
 error message and then live shuts down.<br><br>help?<br><br>- jim<br>

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I use it with no problem. Which version of live are you using? Mac /PC? I use 8 on a mac and have had some stability issues, especailly when using 3rd party plugs. So my cure was to delete all Lives preferences in the Library (a pain in the ass), then go to disc utility and rebuild permissions. Cleared it all up. 


On Jan 13, 2010, at 7:47 PM, james fowler wrote:

> anybody running mobius in ableton?  every time i try to open it, i get an error message and then live shuts down.
> 
> help?
> 
> - jim

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8.1.1 on a pc.  that does sound like a pain in the ass.  too bad cuz i
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Many people use Mobius with Live.  I've used it since the beginning  
though
I haven't upgraded to Live 8 yet.   Is this a fresh Live 8 install or  
did you upgrade
an existing install?

What is the error message you are seeing?

In standalone Mobius bring up the MIDI Devices dialog and look at the  
"plugin devices"
panels on the right, do you have anything selected?   If so deselect  
them, you rarely
need to open MIDI devices when running as a plugin and this can cause  
conflicts if the
host is also opening those devices.

Jeff



On Jan 13, 2010, at 7:34 PM, james fowler wrote:

> 8.1.1 on a pc.  that does sound like a pain in the ass.  too bad cuz  
> i really like mobius.
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> - jim

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Hello folks.

After over a year of contemplating this, I have decided to simplify my =
life and ditch the laptop and music software.  Yes, it's true...the guy =
who was the posterchild for eliminating hardware and had built such as =
sweet system is changing approaches yet again. :)   What am I playing =
now?  Eastman archtop jazz guitar and amp. That's it. Time to focus and =
get real, spend less time on the computer and more time playing with =
human beings.   I will be keeping an old laptop with some editing =
software, but that is it.=20

I'm selling some other items as well.    I open to trades too. I'm =
looking for a high end all tube combo amp. =20

For anyone interested, I am selling the following individually or as a =
package deal:

RME Fireface 400 - $600 plus shipping (sells new for $1000)
More info: http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_fireface_400.php

Lenovo ThinkPad T60p Notebook Computer
(model #2623 - Intel Core Duo T2500 processor, 2GHz, 2GB or RAM)
Has cardbus adaptor for Fireface 400 connection
Loaded with Max/MSP, Reaktor, hundreds of VST programs, purchased VST =
programs (at least $1000 worth), etc
I have sunk nearly $5K into this laptop for music performance, as many =
of you know.=20
$1000=20
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&lndocid=3DMIGR-62487

Both for $1400 + shipping=20

***

Also for sale:

Goldtone GM6 6-string Mandolin - $225
Includes nice case=20
Also includes a installed feather pickup (not stock)
$200 (plus shipping)=20
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http://www.instrumentalley.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3DGM-6&clic=
k=3D35

Fender Pro Junior Tube Amp w/ cover (sells new for $400) - $250  (SOLD)
Excellent condition, used very little=20
$250 (plus shipping)=20
More info: http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=3D0213203000

LR Baggs Para Acoustic DI  - $100
More info: http://www.lrbaggs.com/paradi.htm

Cheers,

Kris
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Dear Friend, 

I am Elizabeth Soon the managing director and portfolio manager of Southeast Asia Equities. I joined AIG Global Investments Corp. in 2008. Prior to joining AIGGIC, I served as a portfolio manager at Swiss-owned fund management group, HSZ, since 2006. 

Prior to 2006, I have an urgent and very confidential business proposition for you. On November 24th,2004; Mr. Vin Bakken, a National of NORWEGIAN who used to be a private contractor with the Shell Petroleum Development Company in Saudi Arabia. Mr. Vin Bakken Made a Numbered time (Fixed deposit) for 36 calendar months, valued at $62, 000,000.00 (Sixty-Two Million united States Dollars) in my Branch. 

Upon maturity in 2007, I sent a routine notification to his forwarding address but got no reply. After a month, we sent a reminder and finally we discovered from his contract employers, Shell Petroleum Development Company in Saudi Arabia that Mr. Vin Bakken And his wife with their three children were involved in an I therefore made further investigation and discovered that Mr. Vin Bakken did not declare any next of kin or Relations in all his official documents, including his Bank Deposit paperwork in my Bank. The sum of $62, 000,000.00 have been floating as unclaimed since 2005 in my bank as all efforts to get his relatives have hit the stones. According to the Chinese law at the expiration of 4 (FOUR) years, the money will revert to the ownership of the Chinese Government if nobody applies to claim the fund and the four years is the end of July 2010.

Since I have been unsuccessful in locating the relatives for over 2 years now, I seek your consent to present you as the next of kin / Will Beneficiary to the deceased so that the proceeds of this account valued at $62, 000,000.00 can be transferred/paid to you. This will be disbursed or shared in these percentages, 60% to me and 40% to you. I have all necessary legal documents that can be used to back up any claim we may make. All I require is your honest Co-operation, Confidentiality and A trust to enable us sees this transaction through. I guarantee you that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law. 

Please get in touch with me urgently by E-mail and Provide me with the following; 

1. Full Name 
2. Your Telephone Number and Fax Number 
3. Your Contact Address.
4. Your Age. Your urgent response will be highly anticipated and appreciated. Best regards, 
Elizabeth Soon,
CFA Fund Manager
.....................................
Lieber Freund, 

Ich bin Elizabeth Bald wird der Geschäftsführer und Portfolio-Manager von Südostasien Equities. Ich trat AIG Global Investments Corp im Jahr 2008. Vor seinem Wechsel zu AIGGIC war ich als Portfolio Manager bei Swiss-prozentige Fonds-Management-Gruppe, HSZ, seit 2006. 

Vor 2006 habe ich eine dringende und sehr vertrauliche Geschäftsinformationen Angebot für Sie. Am 24. November 2004, Herr Vin Bakken, ein Staatsangehöriger der Norweger, der sich als private Auftragnehmer mit der Shell Petroleum Development Company in Saudi-Arabien eingesetzt. Herr Vin Bakken Made einem nummerierten Zeit (Fixed deposit) für 36 Kalendermonate, bei 62 US-Dollar geschätzt, 000,000.00 (Sixty-Two Millionen US-Dollar) in meiner Branche. 

Bei Fälligkeit im Jahr 2007, schickte ich eine routinemäßige Benachrichtigung zu seiner Weiterleitungs-Adresse, aber bekam keine Antwort. Nach einem Monat schickten wir eine Mahnung und schließlich entdeckten wir aus seinem Vertrag Arbeitgeber, Shell Petroleum Development Company in Saudi-Arabien, dass Herr Vin Bakken Und seine Frau mit ihren drei Kindern in ein beteiligte ich daher weiter untersucht und entdeckt, dass Herr Vin Bakken nicht erklären, keine nächsten Angehörigen oder die Beziehungen in allen seinen offiziellen Dokumenten, einschließlich seiner Bank Deposit Papierkram in meiner Bank. Die Summe von $ 62, 000,000.00 wurden schwimmende als herrenloses seit 2005 in meiner Bank, da alle Anstrengungen zu bekommen seine Verwandten haben den Steinen getroffen. Nach dem chinesischen Gesetz nach Ablauf von 4 (vier) Jahre, wird das Geld wieder auf das Eigentum an der chinesischen Regierung, wenn niemand gilt für den Fonds beanspruchen und den vier Jahren ist das Ende Juli 2010. 

Da ich unterlegen sind bei der Ortung des Verwandten seit über 2 Jahren, ich suche Ihre Zustimmung an Sie als nächsten Angehörigen / der Berechtigte an den Verstorbenen so präsent, dass die Erlöse aus diesem Konto auf 62 US-Dollar geschätzt, 000,000.00 übertragen / bezahlt werden zu Ihnen. Dies wird ausgezahlt werden oder in diese Prozentsätze geteilt, 60% auf mich zu und 40% für Sie. Ich habe alle notwendigen rechtlichen Dokumente, die verwendet werden, um eine Sicherungskopie aller Ansprüche können wir leisten können. Alles, was ich verlangen, ist Ihre ehrliche Zusammenarbeit, Vertraulichkeit und ein Vertrauen zu ermöglichen, uns sieht dieser Transaktion durch. Ich garantiere Ihnen, dass dies unter einer legitimen Anordnung, die Sie von einer Verletzung des Gesetzes zum Schutz ausgeführt wird. 

Bitte setzen Sie sich mit mir in Verbindung umgehend per E-Mail und geben mir die folgenden; 

1. Vollständiger Name 
2. Ihre Telefon-und Faxnummer 
3. Ihre Kontaktadresse. 
4. Ihr Alter. Ihre dringende Antwort wird mit Spannung erwarteten und geschätzt werden. Mit besten Grüßen, 
Elizabeth Bald 
CFA-Fonds-Manager

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Hi everyone,

those video streaming things have been the #1 cool thing for me in 2009, 
and I continue to do a bi-weekly performance series (first official 
session this Saturday) and have done daily ones this past week since 
Sunday. Also, Rick's festival has been transmitted nearly in full (and 
archived online), so there's even a looping relationship here...on to 
some findings and a call for your inputs to these topics.

My own experience:
I have worked with three services in total: ustream.tv, justin.tv and 
livestream.com. At least livestream also has a "premium" version with a 
hefty price tag, but all of those offer "free" (meaning ad-financed, no 
charges for viewer or presenter) accounts.

What they have in common:
They're free, allow you to record your shows and make them available for 
posterity, and allow embedded players to be placed e.g. on your website 
and viewing them does not require registration for the viewer. All of 
them allow you to transmit via a browser-based flash plugin or with the 
free Adobe FME software.

The lowdown on all three of them:
a) ustream:
This is the one where I started, and where I have the most experience with.
Nice:
*   the system of announcing your own shows, following other people etc. 
seems laid out fine. There also seems to be a large viewer crowd.
*   there are some basic editing functions for your archived videos 
which are, as I might say, sufficient.
Not nice:
*   they have a service which allows cueing in other performers (called 
"co-hosting"), drop in clips form youtube etc. Unfortunately, the last 
time I checked (at the VSV festival in October), these functions were 
flawed or didn't work at all.
*   even when using the FME encoder, you still need to run the web 
browser plugin, which can be an issue for older computers (and "older" 
here means anything with a passmark below 900).

b) justin:
Nice:
*   This is the simplest of the three. Set up your account, download the 
xml file for the FME, fire up the FME.
Not nice:
*   Well...doesn't offer that many nifty features as the others do.

c) livestream:
This seems to be the most powerful one of the three in terms of features.
Nice:
*   A nifty wealth of features, including some configurable banners at 
the start of the video etc. There's the so-called "studio", which allows 
you to also upload videos, create an on-demand playlist, define 
storyboards for a live (or archived show), cue in other performers etc.
Not Nice:
*   There are some limitations to the free accounts. First one is you 
need to get your channel certified to be allowed to transmit to more 
than 40 viewers. This is not a big issue, as it's just filling out a 
form and waiting for a day or so.
*   More limitations for free accounts: the biggest is that you are 
limited to a 500kbps stream bandwidth and 4:3 aspect ratio.


Ok, now it's your turn. More observations to add? Other services which 
do something like that? Comments? Questions?


Yours,

             Rainer

-- 
http://moinlabs.de
Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs

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Bad marks for Adobe for not supporting Windows 7 - still!  The only software 
that crashes under Win7 is the Flash 10 Player, and the FME only produces a 
mono signal.  At least from here.  Check out the Stereo Test I did: 
http://lnk.ms/4kN55 - Any suggestions?

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From: "Rainer Straschill" <moinsound@googlemail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:15 AM
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: Video Streaming Services - Status and Survey

> Hi everyone,
>
> those video streaming things have been the #1 cool thing for me in 2009, 
> and I continue to do a bi-weekly performance series (first official 
> session this Saturday) and have done daily ones this past week since 
> Sunday. Also, Rick's festival has been transmitted nearly in full (and 
> archived online), so there's even a looping relationship here...on to some 
> findings and a call for your inputs to these topics.
>
> My own experience:
> I have worked with three services in total: ustream.tv, justin.tv and 
> livestream.com. At least livestream also has a "premium" version with a 
> hefty price tag, but all of those offer "free" (meaning ad-financed, no 
> charges for viewer or presenter) accounts.
>
> What they have in common:
> They're free, allow you to record your shows and make them available for 
> posterity, and allow embedded players to be placed e.g. on your website 
> and viewing them does not require registration for the viewer. All of them 
> allow you to transmit via a browser-based flash plugin or with the free 
> Adobe FME software.
>
> The lowdown on all three of them:
> a) ustream:
> This is the one where I started, and where I have the most experience 
> with.
> Nice:
> *   the system of announcing your own shows, following other people etc. 
> seems laid out fine. There also seems to be a large viewer crowd.
> *   there are some basic editing functions for your archived videos which 
> are, as I might say, sufficient.
> Not nice:
> *   they have a service which allows cueing in other performers (called 
> "co-hosting"), drop in clips form youtube etc. Unfortunately, the last 
> time I checked (at the VSV festival in October), these functions were 
> flawed or didn't work at all.
> *   even when using the FME encoder, you still need to run the web browser 
> plugin, which can be an issue for older computers (and "older" here means 
> anything with a passmark below 900).
>
> b) justin:
> Nice:
> *   This is the simplest of the three. Set up your account, download the 
> xml file for the FME, fire up the FME.
> Not nice:
> *   Well...doesn't offer that many nifty features as the others do.
>
> c) livestream:
> This seems to be the most powerful one of the three in terms of features.
> Nice:
> *   A nifty wealth of features, including some configurable banners at the 
> start of the video etc. There's the so-called "studio", which allows you 
> to also upload videos, create an on-demand playlist, define storyboards 
> for a live (or archived show), cue in other performers etc.
> Not Nice:
> *   There are some limitations to the free accounts. First one is you need 
> to get your channel certified to be allowed to transmit to more than 40 
> viewers. This is not a big issue, as it's just filling out a form and 
> waiting for a day or so.
> *   More limitations for free accounts: the biggest is that you are 
> limited to a 500kbps stream bandwidth and 4:3 aspect ratio.
>
>
> Ok, now it's your turn. More observations to add? Other services which do 
> something like that? Comments? Questions?
>
>
> Yours,
>
>             Rainer
>
> -- 
> http://moinlabs.de
> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs 

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Hi everyone,

first of all, thanks to all of you who have watched during the last days 
to my video sessions under the "An Ambient Manifold" moniker.

What had started on Sunday as a simple test run has turned into a daily 
event, so I'm gonna bring it to its end proper for one full week of 
ambient manifolds:

Today (January 14th), and tomorrow (15th), it's 1930 GMT.
For the grand finale and Day 7, join me this Saturday (16th) at 1700 GMT 
for my regular "every even calendar week" MoinSound Studio Session (MSSS).

Expect these sessions to be slightly longer than the usual 45 minutes of 
MSSS, as is the character of ambient music.

The streaming link: http://fwd4.me/0Aa (ustream), or go to 
http://moinlabs.de for an embedded player.

All the details, as well as videos from the last four days: 
http://fwd4.me/BNq (my myspace blog).

Feel free to join me via twitter (http://twitter.com/moinlabs) for 
up-to-date news and announcements about this (and more).

Yours,

             Rainer

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Is this a fresh Live 8 install or did you upgrade an existing install?

-- fresh installation.

What is the error message you are seeing?

-- when i drag mobius into live's "drag audio effects here" box, i get a
dialog box with three question marks.  then i click ok and another box pops
up stating that live has encountered a severe problem and has to shut down,
which is does after clicking "ok".  live will not restart unless i restart
the computer.

In standalone Mobius bring up the MIDI Devices dialog and look at the
"plugin devices"
panels on the right, do you have anything selected?   If so deselect them,
you rarely
need to open MIDI devices when running as a plugin and this can cause
conflicts if the
host is also opening those devices.

-- i'll try this tonight.

btw, i tried to join the mobius forum/group and never got a response from
the admin.

thanks.

- jim

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I will check in here briefly,

I also have used all three services. The only thing I can add is that 
Livestream's studio does not have to be opened to broadcast. I can just 
start the FME and it starts broadcasting. This is good for me because I also 
use Manycam for copious amounts of video fx (yes, I am one of those). The 
cpu load is much less with Livestream than it is with Ustream because of 
this. Ustream, as Rainer said has to have it's own broadcast window open and 
connected with the FME before broadcasting. This was my least favorite thing 
about Ustream. I recently had an issue with Ustream not broadcasting stereo 
but this may have been a fluke.

The bandwidth limits with Livestream and the aspect ratio are it's biggest 
issue for some. It is not for me as I have never used anything higher than 
about 428 kbs total for audio/video broadcast. You have to consider the 
bandwidth of the audients connection also.

To get my channel "verified" on Livestream was very simple. Once done you 
can have unlimited viewers.

With Livestream you can upload your own videos and also sync with your 
Youtube account. It plays on "auto pilot" 24/7. This allows me to edit my 
sets much better than Ustream. Ustream doesn't allow uploads.

There have been some issues with Livestream reporting a "unable to find that 
url" when people click on the link to the shows. This is rare.

The studio with Livestream enables you to switch between other feeds and 
cameras. You can also have shared channels with collaborators which is nice. 
This may be the big thing for the next VSV fest! Ustream was a kluster(ahem) 
using their cohost feature. :)


best,

Jeff



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> Hi everyone,
>
> those video streaming things have been the #1 cool thing for me in 2009, 
> and I continue to do a bi-weekly performance series (first official 
> session this Saturday) and have done daily ones this past week since 
> Sunday. Also, Rick's festival has been transmitted nearly in full (and 
> archived online), so there's even a looping relationship here...on to some 
> findings and a call for your inputs to these topics.
>
> My own experience:
> I have worked with three services in total: ustream.tv, justin.tv and 
> livestream.com. At least livestream also has a "premium" version with a 
> hefty price tag, but all of those offer "free" (meaning ad-financed, no 
> charges for viewer or presenter) accounts.
>
> What they have in common:
> They're free, allow you to record your shows and make them available for 
> posterity, and allow embedded players to be placed e.g. on your website 
> and viewing them does not require registration for the viewer. All of them 
> allow you to transmit via a browser-based flash plugin or with the free 
> Adobe FME software.
>
> The lowdown on all three of them:
> a) ustream:
> This is the one where I started, and where I have the most experience 
> with.
> Nice:
> *   the system of announcing your own shows, following other people etc. 
> seems laid out fine. There also seems to be a large viewer crowd.
> *   there are some basic editing functions for your archived videos which 
> are, as I might say, sufficient.
> Not nice:
> *   they have a service which allows cueing in other performers (called 
> "co-hosting"), drop in clips form youtube etc. Unfortunately, the last 
> time I checked (at the VSV festival in October), these functions were 
> flawed or didn't work at all.
> *   even when using the FME encoder, you still need to run the web browser 
> plugin, which can be an issue for older computers (and "older" here means 
> anything with a passmark below 900).
>
> b) justin:
> Nice:
> *   This is the simplest of the three. Set up your account, download the 
> xml file for the FME, fire up the FME.
> Not nice:
> *   Well...doesn't offer that many nifty features as the others do.
>
> c) livestream:
> This seems to be the most powerful one of the three in terms of features.
> Nice:
> *   A nifty wealth of features, including some configurable banners at the 
> start of the video etc. There's the so-called "studio", which allows you 
> to also upload videos, create an on-demand playlist, define storyboards 
> for a live (or archived show), cue in other performers etc.
> Not Nice:
> *   There are some limitations to the free accounts. First one is you need 
> to get your channel certified to be allowed to transmit to more than 40 
> viewers. This is not a big issue, as it's just filling out a form and 
> waiting for a day or so.
> *   More limitations for free accounts: the biggest is that you are 
> limited to a 500kbps stream bandwidth and 4:3 aspect ratio.
>
>
> Ok, now it's your turn. More observations to add? Other services which do 
> something like that? Comments? Questions?
>
>
> Yours,
>
>             Rainer
>
> -- 
> http://moinlabs.de
> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
>
> 

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When you see ??? in popups or the main Mobius UI it means that Mobius
can't find it's message file.  When you install Mobius it puts an  
entry in the Windows
registry pointing to the installation directory, if you then move this  
directory the registry
will be pointing to the wrong place.  If that could have happened then  
just reinstall.

There is one other reason for losing the message file that we haven't  
seen in awhile.
Search the hard disk for a file named mobius.xml  there should be only  
one of them
in c:\Program Files\Mobius (or whatever your installation directory  
was).  If you find another
one delete it.

Sorry about the forum account, what would you like your user name to be?

Jeff



On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:29 AM, james fowler wrote:

> Is this a fresh Live 8 install or did you upgrade an existing install?
>
> -- fresh installation.
>
> What is the error message you are seeing?
>
> -- when i drag mobius into live's "drag audio effects here" box, i  
> get a dialog box with three question marks.  then i click ok and  
> another box pops up stating that live has encountered a severe  
> problem and has to shut down, which is does after clicking "ok".   
> live will not restart unless i restart the computer.
>
> In standalone Mobius bring up the MIDI Devices dialog and look at  
> the "plugin devices"
> panels on the right, do you have anything selected?   If so deselect  
> them, you rarely
> need to open MIDI devices when running as a plugin and this can  
> cause conflicts if the
> host is also opening those devices.
>
> -- i'll try this tonight. 
>
> btw, i tried to join the mobius forum/group and never got a response  
> from the admin.
>
> thanks.
>
> - jim


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>When you see ??? in popups =
or the main Mobius UI it means that Mobius</div><div>can't find it's =
message file. &nbsp;When you install Mobius it puts an entry in the =
Windows</div><div>registry pointing to the installation directory, if =
you then move this directory the registry</div><div>will be pointing to =
the wrong place. &nbsp;If that could have happened then just =
reinstall.</div><div><br></div><div>There is one other reason for losing =
the message file that we haven't seen in awhile.</div><div>Search the =
hard disk for a file named mobius.xml &nbsp;there should be only one of =
them</div><div>in c:\Program Files\Mobius (or whatever your installation =
directory was). &nbsp;If you find another</div><div>one delete =
it.</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry about the forum account, what would =
you like your user name to =
be?</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><=
div><div>On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:29 AM, james fowler wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Is =
this a fresh Live 8 install or did you upgrade an existing =
install?</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>-- fresh installation.</div> =
<div>&nbsp;</div> <div>What is the error message you are seeing?</div> =
<div>&nbsp;</div> <div>-- when i drag mobius into live's "drag audio =
effects here" box, i get a dialog box with three question marks.&nbsp; =
then i click ok and another box pops up stating that live has =
encountered a severe problem and has to shut down, which is does after =
clicking "ok".&nbsp; live will not restart unless i restart the =
computer.</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>In standalone Mobius bring up the =
MIDI Devices dialog and look at the "plugin devices"<br>panels on the =
right, do you have anything selected? &nbsp; If so deselect them, you =
rarely<br>need to open MIDI devices when running as a plugin and this =
can cause conflicts if the<br> host is also opening those devices.</div> =
<div>&nbsp;</div> <div>--&nbsp;i'll try this tonight.&nbsp; </div> =
<div>&nbsp;</div> <div>btw, i tried to join the mobius forum/group and =
never got a response from the admin. </div> <div>&nbsp;</div> =
<div>thanks.</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>- jim<font =
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From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
> I also have used all three services. The only thing I can add is that 
> Livestream's studio does not have to be opened to broadcast. I can just 
> start the FME and it starts broadcasting. This is good for me because I 
> also use Manycam for copious amounts of video fx (yes, I am one of those). 
> The cpu load is much less with Livestream than it is with Ustream because 
> of this. Ustream, as Rainer said has to have it's own broadcast window 
> open and connected with the FME before broadcasting. This was my least 
> favorite thing about Ustream. I recently had an issue with Ustream not 
> broadcasting stereo but this may have been a fluke.

I cannot seem to get ustream to broadcast in stereo.  Here's what I've got 
running for the latest shows:

*Line In, definitely stereo.
*FLStudio 9, using a variety of sound samples and the Tapeworm mellotron 
sim; and in the latest tests I just ran a pattern with a single drum hit 
using its onboard ping-pong delay.

This through ustream's encoder (the FME is not selectable, and when the 
checkbox is selected nothing happens, let alone a plugin installation as 
their 'help' graphics show.  No answer from ustream about this.

> The bandwidth limits with Livestream and the aspect ratio are it's biggest 
> issue for some. It is not for me as I have never used anything higher than 
> about 428 kbs total for audio/video broadcast. You have to consider the 
> bandwidth of the audients connection also.

Hehehehe, you said "audients".  Hmhumhehehehehe...

> To get my channel "verified" on Livestream was very simple. Once done you 
> can have unlimited viewers.

Perhaps I misunderstood the answer from Livestream's forum but I have to get 
more viewers to be 'verified'.  Or is that not the only criteria?

> With Livestream you can upload your own videos and also sync with your 
> Youtube account. It plays on "auto pilot" 24/7. This allows me to edit my 
> sets much better than Ustream. Ustream doesn't allow uploads.

I don't have the uploading option on Livestream, just the YouTube linkup. 
Is this a paid account, Jeff?

I did have some assistance from ustream about the no-uploads problem.  I had 
placed the VSV performance in its own 'show' and wanted to merge it with the 
more-ongoing group of videos I've been doing.  You cannot do any video 
management between 'shows', but one can download the FLV file, just not 
upload it.  I then used my copy of VideoStudio X2 to convert it into an AVI 
file, and used MultiCam to feed it to the ustream encoder.

> There have been some issues with Livestream reporting a "unable to find 
> that url" when people click on the link to the shows. This is rare.
>
> The studio with Livestream enables you to switch between other feeds and 
> cameras. You can also have shared channels with collaborators which is 
> nice. This may be the big thing for the next VSV fest! Ustream was a 
> kluster(ahem) using their cohost feature. :)
>
>
> best,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rainer Straschill" <moinsound@googlemail.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 6:15 AM
> Subject: Video Streaming Services - Status and Survey
>
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> those video streaming things have been the #1 cool thing for me in 2009, 
>> and I continue to do a bi-weekly performance series (first official 
>> session this Saturday) and have done daily ones this past week since 
>> Sunday. Also, Rick's festival has been transmitted nearly in full (and 
>> archived online), so there's even a looping relationship here...on to 
>> some findings and a call for your inputs to these topics.
>>
>> My own experience:
>> I have worked with three services in total: ustream.tv, justin.tv and 
>> livestream.com. At least livestream also has a "premium" version with a 
>> hefty price tag, but all of those offer "free" (meaning ad-financed, no 
>> charges for viewer or presenter) accounts.
>>
>> What they have in common:
>> They're free, allow you to record your shows and make them available for 
>> posterity, and allow embedded players to be placed e.g. on your website 
>> and viewing them does not require registration for the viewer. All of 
>> them allow you to transmit via a browser-based flash plugin or with the 
>> free Adobe FME software.
>>
>> The lowdown on all three of them:
>> a) ustream:
>> This is the one where I started, and where I have the most experience 
>> with.
>> Nice:
>> *   the system of announcing your own shows, following other people etc. 
>> seems laid out fine. There also seems to be a large viewer crowd.
>> *   there are some basic editing functions for your archived videos which 
>> are, as I might say, sufficient.
>> Not nice:
>> *   they have a service which allows cueing in other performers (called 
>> "co-hosting"), drop in clips form youtube etc. Unfortunately, the last 
>> time I checked (at the VSV festival in October), these functions were 
>> flawed or didn't work at all.
>> *   even when using the FME encoder, you still need to run the web 
>> browser plugin, which can be an issue for older computers (and "older" 
>> here means anything with a passmark below 900).
>>
>> b) justin:
>> Nice:
>> *   This is the simplest of the three. Set up your account, download the 
>> xml file for the FME, fire up the FME.
>> Not nice:
>> *   Well...doesn't offer that many nifty features as the others do.
>>
>> c) livestream:
>> This seems to be the most powerful one of the three in terms of features.
>> Nice:
>> *   A nifty wealth of features, including some configurable banners at 
>> the start of the video etc. There's the so-called "studio", which allows 
>> you to also upload videos, create an on-demand playlist, define 
>> storyboards for a live (or archived show), cue in other performers etc.
>> Not Nice:
>> *   There are some limitations to the free accounts. First one is you 
>> need to get your channel certified to be allowed to transmit to more than 
>> 40 viewers. This is not a big issue, as it's just filling out a form and 
>> waiting for a day or so.
>> *   More limitations for free accounts: the biggest is that you are 
>> limited to a 500kbps stream bandwidth and 4:3 aspect ratio.
>>
>>
>> Ok, now it's your turn. More observations to add? Other services which do 
>> something like that? Comments? Questions?
>>
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>>             Rainer
>>
>> -- 
>> http://moinlabs.de
>> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
>>
>> 

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Stephen Goodman schrieb:

> I cannot seem to get ustream to broadcast in stereo.  Here's what I've 
> got running for the latest shows:
>
> This through ustream's encoder (the FME is not selectable, and when 
> the checkbox is selected nothing happens, let alone a plugin 
> installation as their 'help' graphics show.  No answer from ustream 
> about this.
That is the cause, though a solution is not known to me: when not using 
FME, the audio is always mono (on ustream).
The process is download xml file for FME from ustream -> start FME using 
the xml file -> click "Broadcast Now" to open the broadcast window in 
ustream -> click "start broadcast". In this setting, it automatically 
uses the already transmitting FME stream (which may even be coming from 
another computer, though that one may have to be under the same public 
IP4).
> Perhaps I misunderstood the answer from Livestream's forum but I have 
> to get more viewers to be 'verified'.  Or is that not the only criteria?
It's not a criterium, and it rather works the other way round:
To get verified, you have to apply for it (the thing tells you) by 
filling out a form. It's basically a graphic with a channel logo, a 
short description, a few tags, the location of your main target 
audience, your intended use etc. Takes roughly 10 minutes to fill that out.
Once you do that, you get verified very quickly. They claim "usually 
within two business days", for me it was less than one (and I think also 
for Jeff).

Before your channel is verified, your maximum number of viewers that can 
watch (from livestream's side) are 40 - if you get verified, it's 
unlimited. But you do NOT have to have more than a specific viewer count 
to get verified. The only requirement is filling out the form.

Best,

         Rainer


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>
> Probably too early to ask, but are there any plans to put out a true
> stereo in/stereo out (instrument level) version of the LP2?
> Cheers,
> -- G.

well, if he sells enough of the LP2, he will be able to build the LP3
isn't that how it works? :-)

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> bandwidth of the audients connection also.

>>Hehehehe, you said "audients".  Hmhumhehehehehe...



hmmm, maybe I have been reading Fripps diary too much, ;)


j

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FWIW, the Ableton forums are chock full of comments from folks having a lot=
 of trouble with Live 8.1.  I haven't tried using Mobius in live (I run Mob=
ius on a laptop and Live on a separate desktop), but I can tell you that I =
have had a lot of crashes ending with the same "live has encountered a seve=
re problem and has to shut down" message, and it has usually been associate=
d with a VST. In my case, Kontakt Player 2 and Live seem to dislike each ot=
her intensely.


I read with interest another reply to this thread,



 "Chris Sewell [lunamusic@mac.com]:
I use it with no problem. Which version of live are you using? Mac /PC? I u=
se 8 on a mac and have had some stability issues, especailly when using 3rd=
 party plugs. So my cure was to delete all Lives preferences in the Library=
 (a pain in the ass), then go to disc utility and rebuild permissions. Clea=
red it all up."

I don't know what rebuild permissions means... yet...  but next week I inte=
nd to spend some time trying this out.

Hal Dean


From: james fowler [mailto:twostroke@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:30 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: mobius and ableton - no worky

Is this a fresh Live 8 install or did you upgrade an existing install?

-- fresh installation.

What is the error message you are seeing?

-- when i drag mobius into live's "drag audio effects here" box, i get a di=
alog box with three question marks.  then i click ok and another box pops u=
p stating that live has encountered a severe problem and has to shut down, =
which is does after clicking "ok".  live will not restart unless i restart =
the computer.

In standalone Mobius bring up the MIDI Devices dialog and look at the "plug=
in devices"
panels on the right, do you have anything selected?   If so deselect them, =
you rarely
need to open MIDI devices when running as a plugin and this can cause confl=
icts if the
host is also opening those devices.

-- i'll try this tonight.

btw, i tried to join the mobius forum/group and never got a response from t=
he admin.

thanks.

- jim

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>FWIW, the Ableton forums are chock full of comments from fol=
ks
having a lot of trouble with Live 8.1.&nbsp; I haven&#8217;t tried using Mo=
bius
in live (I run Mobius on a laptop and Live on a separate desktop), but I ca=
n
tell you that I have had a lot of crashes ending with the same &#8220;</spa=
n><span
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>live has encountered a severe
problem and has to shut down&#8221; message, and it has usually been associ=
ated
with a VST. In my case, Kontakt Player 2 and Live seem to dislike each othe=
r intensely.</span><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I read with interest another reply to this thread,<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&#8220;</span>Chris Sewell [lunamusic@mac.com]:<o:p></=
o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>I use it with no problem. Which version of live are yo=
u
using? Mac /PC? I use 8 on a mac and have had some stability issues, especa=
illy
when using 3rd party plugs. So my cure was to delete all Lives preferences =
in
the Library (a pain in the ass), then go to disc utility and rebuild
permissions. Cleared it all up.&#8221;<span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Palati=
no Linotype","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></i></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Palatino =
Linotype","serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don&#8217;t know what rebuild permissions means&#8230; yet=
&#8230;
&nbsp;but next week I intend to spend some time trying this out.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Palatino =
Linotype","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Palati=
no Linotype","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hal Dean<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Palatino =
Linotype","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma=
","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> james fowler
[mailto:twostroke@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: mobius and ableton - no worky<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Is this a fresh Live 8 install or did you upgrade an
existing install?<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>-- fresh installation.<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>What is the error message you are seeing?<o:p></o:p></=
p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>-- when i drag mobius into live's &quot;drag audio eff=
ects
here&quot; box, i get a dialog box with three question marks.&nbsp; then i
click ok and another box pops up stating that live has encountered a severe
problem and has to shut down, which is does after clicking
&quot;ok&quot;.&nbsp; live will not restart unless i restart the computer.<=
o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>In standalone Mobius bring up the MIDI Devices dialog =
and
look at the &quot;plugin devices&quot;<br>
panels on the right, do you have anything selected? &nbsp; If so deselect t=
hem,
you rarely<br>
need to open MIDI devices when running as a plugin and this can cause confl=
icts
if the<br>
host is also opening those devices.<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>--&nbsp;i'll try this tonight.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>btw, i tried to join the mobius forum/group and never =
got a
response from the admin. <o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>- jim<o:p></o:p></p>

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the softstep foot controller...

http://bit.ly/4VSJ75 

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Last week, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> was like:
> I just can never make my mind up about "beatboxing". Is it
> silly or is it cool? It always sounds like a guy spitting into a mic.
>

Beatboxing is one of those grey areas. I like it in some contexts and
not in others. I like to listen to people beatbox while they're
working on tasks or thinking about something else. I don't like it so
much when folks're doing it performatively. The only case on CD that I
can recall that I like right now is Thom Yorke's "Black Swan". (In
that case, it's sampled.) Guess I can't claim that my opinions make
any sense.

It's not too hard of a skill to pick up - probably easier than
learning harmonica. I find it useful in thinking of percussive parts
for songs and when bored.

My friend Jon Leidecker tells me that the Korg Microsampler's preset
samples are of beatboxers. To me, that sounds like a terrible idea.

Matt

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wonderful bass player Wendy just told me:

I will be doing a show next Friday with another fantastic looping  
guitarist Randolf Arriola and 2 percussionists. I will post up the  
videos online where I hope to share them with everyone :)

www.wendyphua.com

at least as wonderful Randolf played really beautifully at the y2k7  
and was really nice to talk to, too!
and he is here on the list since Oct 1998...

:-)

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wow, Kris!

nobody answers this one?
you have been off and on with this several times already, right?
after a while of the amp you will long for the special effects  
again... :-)
I have a hard time with the computer, too, I must admit...
we even talked about a polyphonic tube amp these days :-)

and what do you use for looping? did you ditch that too? a band?

On 14 Jan 2010, at 01:34, Krispen Hartung wrote:

> Hello folks.
>
> After over a year of contemplating this, I have decided to simplify  
> my life and ditch the laptop and music software.  Yes, it's  
> true...the guy who was the posterchild for eliminating hardware and  
> had built such as sweet system is changing approaches yet  
> again. :)   What am I playing now?  Eastman archtop jazz guitar and  
> amp. That's it. Time to focus and get real, spend less time on the  
> computer and more time playing with human beings.   I will be  
> keeping an old laptop with some editing software, but that is it.
>

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:-)</div><div>I have a hard time with the computer, too, I must =
admit...</div><div>we even talked about a polyphonic tube amp these days =
:-)</div><div><br></div><div>and what do you use for looping? did you =
ditch that too? a band?</div><div><br><div><div><div>On 14 Jan 2010, at =
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Hi Matthias,

Nice hearing from you again!

Yes, it is quite a change for me. I have recieved several private =
responses from people in shock, thinking that there must be something =
wrong with me or something drastic has happened in my life, and I am =
almost ready to send my resonse to the group so it is out on the table!  =
:)

Anyway, looping and what I will use. The only context I can see myself =
looping now is in a solo context, but just as a minor background =
device...short phrases, ambient noises, etc.  In this regard, I still =
have my Boss RC1 looper.  It is basic, but gets the job done.   But, =
honesly, in my recent experiences with duos and trios, I don't really =
see a need for looping. I like the space and the dynamics of three live =
players. And even in a solo context, my aim is to be self-sufficient. I =
can play free jazz guitar easy enough, but the years of looping have got =
me addicted to having the safety net of background loops. I sort of like =
being on my own and exposed now.=20

Kris


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  wow, Kris!


  nobody answers this one?
  you have been off and on with this several times already, right?
  after a while of the amp you will long for the special effects =
again... :-)
  I have a hard time with the computer, too, I must admit...
  we even talked about a polyphonic tube amp these days :-)


  and what do you use for looping? did you ditch that too? a band?


  On 14 Jan 2010, at 01:34, Krispen Hartung wrote:


    Hello folks.

    After over a year of contemplating this, I have decided to simplify =
my life and ditch the laptop and music software.  Yes, it's true...the =
guy who was the posterchild for eliminating hardware and had built such =
as sweet system is changing approaches yet again. :)   What am I playing =
now?  Eastman archtop jazz guitar and amp. That's it. Time to focus and =
get real, spend less time on the computer and more time playing with =
human beings.   I will be keeping an old laptop with some editing =
software, but that is it.

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Matt Davignon schrieb:
> My friend Jon Leidecker tells me that the Korg Microsampler's preset
> samples are of beatboxers. To me, that sounds like a terrible idea.
>   
It's like those patches on modern synthesizers which emulates a ROM 
sample player mimicking a digital synthesizer trying to sound like an 
electric instrument meant to sound like an acoustic piano.

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How long till one of those $5000 yamaha keyboards comes with casiotone presets?

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> Matt Davignon schrieb:
>
> It's like those patches on modern synthesizers which emulates a ROM sample
> player mimicking a digital synthesizer trying to sound like an electric
> instrument meant to sound like an acoustic piano.
>
> --
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
> wow, Kris!
> nobody answers this one?


Oh yeah - I ditched computers too. Many times! But the laptops just
keep following me like hungry alligators...

Seriously, you only have twenty four hours a day and a kadrilion notes
to play. I love playing acoustic instruments as much as playing
electric... or a looper. This morning I sent some positive thoughts to
Kris when punching the delete button because I think it is good to
sell good stuff that you don't need. Or give it away. The less stuff
you have around the more music will fit into your flow. Three piece
bands are optimal for improvised music! Go-Kris-Go!

Actually I'm about to start playing out more in a five/six piece band
where I will be putting an electronic edge to west african inspired
music that includes vocals and songs. This will mean a lot of
real-time sampling as well as playing all kind of sounds by EWI from a
laptop - but there isn't much room for advanced looping (like pitch
shifting into orchestration etc). I will just use Mainstage and its
Loopback plugin together with more tape delay style plugins since the
band is instantly grooving and I have to stay "tempo alert" while
dubbing. The point with this band is that everyone plays rather than
"catches up" on sequencers and backtracks so rather than building
loops I will constantly play through bouncing delay and filterbank
treatments. Since I play in time it will bounce back in time as long
as I keep the laptop at the same tempo as the band.... no need for
"sync" or "downbeat detecting" - just listening and playing. "The rig"
for this will rely more on nifty signal processing than on Mobius
scripting ;-))

And then I'm picking up stick playing too. I'm hoping the Chapman
Stick will let me directly play more parts pre looper. Like playing
one part with each hand where I would have to use a looper for one of
them if playing the flute. Another great bonus is being able to work
with a floating tempo

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
> the softstep foot controller...
>
> http://bit.ly/4VSJ75


Bring it on! :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
(hoping to not buy a fourth FCB1010)

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Krispen, I applaud your change of stance/practice! I hear that cliche ringing true that "Less is More".
Having less equipment/software to deal with allows greater freedom to focus and express the music that is within us in a passionate and unfettered way. 
>From the origin of humans producing music, this was the 1st reason for playing.

In the studio software has revolutionized the recording process, playing music in a live setting having to click a mouse and watch a screen is distracting whether as a performer or an audience member.

In creating live music,
skill and passion rule.

Congrats Krispen, 

-Kevin
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You mean like Pat Methenys?
On Jan 14, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Matt Davignon wrote:

> How long till one of those $5000 yamaha keyboards comes with  
> casiotone presets?
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Rainer Straschill
> <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Matt Davignon schrieb:
>>
>> It's like those patches on modern synthesizers which emulates a  
>> ROM sample
>> player mimicking a digital synthesizer trying to sound like an  
>> electric
>> instrument meant to sound like an acoustic piano.
>>
>> --
>> http://moinlabs.de
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Thank you, Kevin. Well said. :)

----- Original Message ----- 

> Krispen, I applaud your change of stance/practice! I hear that cliche 
> ringing true that "Less is More".
> Having less equipment/software to deal with allows greater freedom to 
> focus and express the music that is within us in a passionate and 
> unfettered way.
> From the origin of humans producing music, this was the 1st reason for 
> playing.
>
> In the studio software has revolutionized the recording process, playing 
> music in a live setting having to click a mouse and watch a screen is 
> distracting whether as a performer or an audience member.
>
> In creating live music,
> skill and passion rule.
>
> Congrats Krispen,
>
> -Kevin
> www.Myspace.com/KevinSpears
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 

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From: "Rainer Straschill" <moinsound@googlemail.com>
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> Stephen Goodman schrieb:
>
>> I cannot seem to get ustream to broadcast in stereo.  Here's what I've 
>> got running for the latest shows:
>>
>> This through ustream's encoder (the FME is not selectable, and when the 
>> checkbox is selected nothing happens, let alone a plugin installation as 
>> their 'help' graphics show.  No answer from ustream about this.
> That is the cause, though a solution is not known to me: when not using 
> FME, the audio is always mono (on ustream).
> The process is download xml file for FME from ustream -> start FME using 
> the xml file -> click "Broadcast Now" to open the broadcast window in 
> ustream -> click "start broadcast". In this setting, it automatically uses 
> the already transmitting FME stream (which may even be coming from another 
> computer, though that one may have to be under the same public IP4).

Is it possible to get the xml file then?

>> Perhaps I misunderstood the answer from Livestream's forum but I have to 
>> get more viewers to be 'verified'.  Or is that not the only criteria?
> It's not a criterium, and it rather works the other way round:
> To get verified, you have to apply for it (the thing tells you) by filling 
> out a form. It's basically a graphic with a channel logo, a short 
> description, a few tags, the location of your main target audience, your 
> intended use etc. Takes roughly 10 minutes to fill that out.
> Once you do that, you get verified very quickly.

I got the "new, inactive or small channel" response from that one, back in 
October.  I assume then that one has to have more than a few vids of shows 
on their system to get verified as it turns out.  How many did you have up 
when you got verified?

> They claim "usually within two business days", for me it was less than one 
> (and I think also for Jeff).
>
> Before your channel is verified, your maximum number of viewers that can 
> watch (from livestream's side) are 40 - if you get verified, it's 
> unlimited. But you do NOT have to have more than a specific viewer count 
> to get verified. The only requirement is filling out the form.

I'll put some more material up there then and see what happens.  Thanks!

> Best,
>
>         Rainer
>
>
> -- 
> tune in later for "An Ambient Manifold" - http://fwd4.me/0Aa
> http://moinlabs.de
> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
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>
>
>
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I dunno, some of that low tech stuff sounded good. I wouldn't mind a
vst implementation of the Casio SK-1.

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> You mean like Pat Methenys?
> On Jan 14, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Matt Davignon wrote:
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>>>
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I just sold a CZ-230S on eBay.


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>I dunno, some of that low tech stuff sounded good. I wouldn't mind a
> vst implementation of the Casio SK-1.
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
>> You mean like Pat Methenys?
>> On Jan 14, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Matt Davignon wrote:
>>
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>>> presets?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Rainer Straschill
>>> <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Matt Davignon schrieb:
>>>>
>>>> It's like those patches on modern synthesizers which emulates a ROM
>>>> sample
>>>> player mimicking a digital synthesizer trying to sound like an electric
>>>> instrument meant to sound like an acoustic piano.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://moinlabs.de
>>>> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matt Davignon
>>> mattdavignon@gmail.com
>>> www.ribosomemusic.com
>>> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>>>
>>
>>
>
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> -- 
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Sign me up! : )

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
> the softstep foot controller...
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> http://bit.ly/4VSJ75
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the softstep foot controller...

http://bit.ly/4VSJ75

Huba Huba, that is one sexy beast, only one expression pedal port and  
optional midi? Thats kind of lame for us hardware and expression pedal  
using guys but man is that sweet,  Seems they could have terraced the  
two rows as well, picky picky .They will be close to us in Hall A so I  
will check em out. I bet it won't be cheap........
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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">the softstep foot controller...<br><br><a href="http://bit.ly/4VSJ75" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://bit.ly/4VSJ75</a>&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div>Huba Huba, that is one sexy beast, only one expression pedal port and optional midi? Thats kind of lame for us hardware and expression pedal using guys but man is that sweet, &nbsp;Seems they could have terraced the two rows as well, picky picky .They will be close to us in Hall A so I will check em out. I bet it won't be cheap........</div><div>Bill</div></body></html>
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> hey will be close to us in Hall A so I will check em out.

! :-)
p

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the grid of arrows looks a bit miniscule, but i need to see it better.

let us know what your impressions are bill.


On Jan 14, 2010, at 6:05 PM, William Walker wrote:

> the softstep foot controller...
>
> http://bit.ly/4VSJ75
>
> Huba Huba, that is one sexy beast, only one expression pedal port  
> and optional midi? Thats kind of lame for us hardware and expression  
> pedal using guys but man is that sweet,  Seems they could have  
> terraced the two rows as well, picky picky .They will be close to us  
> in Hall A so I will check em out. I bet it won't be cheap........
> Bill


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Keith McMillen "discovered" me in Frankfurt in 1993 and asked "would  
you like to licence this to Gibson"
he already had a looper prototype by then, but liked mine better,  
mainly because it was ready.
so I went to Berkeley and we sat together and improved it.
he added the great idea with the pedal board using a standard guitar  
cable, the parameter matrix, some Next features...
(the bad idea to recycle the brand Echoplex was not his)

we already agreed back then that the multitrack looper would be the  
next step...
...but then Gibson kicked him out and he had to fight to save Zeta -  
and won!

what he does now with BeamFoundation is a sophisticated variation of  
livelooping, too!

a great guy, incredibly active and full of visions, sometimes like a  
father to me...
have a look at his other products, they are all unique!

On 14 Jan 2010, at 23:05, William Walker wrote:

> the softstep foot controller...
>
> http://bit.ly/4VSJ75
>
> Huba Huba, that is one sexy beast, only one expression pedal port  
> and optional midi? Thats kind of lame for us hardware and expression  
> pedal using guys but man is that sweet,  Seems they could have  
> terraced the two rows as well, picky picky .They will be close to us  
> in Hall A so I will check em out. I bet it won't be cheap........
> Bill


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in Frankfurt in 1993 and asked "would you like to licence this to =
Gibson"<div>he already had a looper prototype by then, but liked mine =
better, mainly because it was ready.</div><div>so I went to Berkeley and =
we sat together and improved it.</div><div>he added the great idea with =
the pedal board using a standard guitar cable, the parameter matrix, =
some Next features...</div><div>(the bad idea to recycle the brand =
Echoplex was not his)</div><div><br></div><div>we already agreed back =
then that the multitrack looper would be the next =
step...</div><div>...but then Gibson kicked him out and he had to fight =
to save Zeta - and won!</div><div><br></div><div>what he does now with =
BeamFoundation is a sophisticated variation of livelooping, =
too!</div><div><br></div><div>a great guy, incredibly active and full of =
visions, sometimes like a father to me...</div><div>have a look at his =
other products, they are all unique!</div><div><br><div><div>On 14 Jan =
2010, at 23:05, William Walker wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">the softstep foot =
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blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://bit.ly/4VSJ75</a>&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div>Huba Huba, that =
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Thats kind of lame for us hardware and expression pedal using guys but =
man is that sweet, &nbsp;Seems they could have terraced the two rows as =
well, picky picky .They will be close to us in Hall A so I will check em =
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Man, like duos and trios, nobody ever did any decent music in that
context, what are you thinking?

: )

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
> But, honesly, in
> my recent experiences with duos and trios, I don't really see a need for
> looping. I like the space and the dynamics of three live players.
-- 
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thanks for the story matthias.
i knew keith was awesome, but now he's even more awesome.

On Jan 14, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Matthias Grob wrote:

> Keith McMillen "discovered" me in Frankfurt in 1993 and asked "would  
> you like to licence this to Gibson"
> he already had a looper prototype by then, but liked mine better,  
> mainly because it was ready.
> so I went to Berkeley and we sat together and improved it.
> he added the great idea with the pedal board using a standard guitar  
> cable, the parameter matrix, some Next features...
> (the bad idea to recycle the brand Echoplex was not his)
>
> we already agreed back then that the multitrack looper would be the  
> next step...
> ...but then Gibson kicked him out and he had to fight to save Zeta -  
> and won!
>
> what he does now with BeamFoundation is a sophisticated variation of  
> livelooping, too!
>
> a great guy, incredibly active and full of visions, sometimes like a  
> father to me...
> have a look at his other products, they are all unique!
>
> On 14 Jan 2010, at 23:05, William Walker wrote:
>
>> the softstep foot controller...
>>
>> http://bit.ly/4VSJ75
>>
>> Huba Huba, that is one sexy beast, only one expression pedal port  
>> and optional midi? Thats kind of lame for us hardware and  
>> expression pedal using guys but man is that sweet,  Seems they  
>> could have terraced the two rows as well, picky picky .They will be  
>> close to us in Hall A so I will check em out. I bet it won't be  
>> cheap........
>> Bill
>


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space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Keith McMillen =
"discovered" me in Frankfurt in 1993 and asked "would you like to =
licence this to Gibson"<div>he already had a looper prototype by then, =
but liked mine better, mainly because it was ready.</div><div>so I went =
to Berkeley and we sat together and improved it.</div><div>he added the =
great idea with the pedal board using a standard guitar cable, the =
parameter matrix, some Next features...</div><div>(the bad idea to =
recycle the brand Echoplex was not his)</div><div><br></div><div>we =
already agreed back then that the multitrack looper would be the next =
step...</div><div>...but then Gibson kicked him out and he had to fight =
to save Zeta - and won!</div><div><br></div><div>what he does now with =
BeamFoundation is a sophisticated variation of livelooping, =
too!</div><div><br></div><div>a great guy, incredibly active and full of =
visions, sometimes like a father to me...</div><div>have a look at his =
other products, they are all unique!</div><div><br><div><div>On 14 Jan =
2010, at 23:05, William Walker wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">the softstep foot =
controller...<br><br><a href=3D"http://bit.ly/4VSJ75" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://bit.ly/4VSJ75</a>&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div>Huba Huba, that =
is one sexy beast, only one expression pedal port and optional midi? =
Thats kind of lame for us hardware and expression pedal using guys but =
man is that sweet, &nbsp;Seems they could have terraced the two rows as =
well, picky picky .They will be close to us in Hall A so I will check em =
out. I bet it won't be =
cheap........</div><div>Bill</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div=
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yeah Chris right on man, we met briefly in the loop festivals but i remeber=
 talking to you and we both agreed right away that interaction in the loopi=
ng festivals or any jamming involved with so much talent around was missing=
,the hightlight for me of the last festival in Santa Cruz besides meeting s=
o many wonderful people was jamming together with kevin,im also coming back=
 to my roots of songwriting, trying to sing better and playing better guita=
r though the looping journey has been quite an experience.=0Acheers=0ALuis=
=0A=0A=0A> =0A> After over a year of contemplating this, I have decided to=
=0A> simplify my life and ditch the=A0laptop and music=0A> software.=A0 Yes=
, it's true...the guy who was the=0A> posterchild for eliminating hardware =
and had built such as=0A> sweet=A0system=A0is=A0changing approaches yet=0A>=
 again. :)=A0=A0 What am I playing now?=A0 Eastman=0A> archtop jazz guitar =
and amp. That's=A0it. Time to=0A> focus and get real,=A0spend less time on =
the computer and=0A> more time playing with human=A0beings. =A0 I will be=
=0A> keeping an old laptop with some editing software, but that=0A> is it.=
=A0=0A=0A__________________________________________________=0ADo You Yahoo!=
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My problem with amplifying my ambient soundscapes is that the=20
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well with my guitar amps
(Roland Jazz Chorus, Laney, Fender Deluxe).
On a photo on Fripp=B4s website I noticed that he seems to
use an active box system for amplification when he=B4s doing
his soundscapes in churches.
Does anyone know more about this and could you recommend a good system =
that=B4s not too expensive?
Here is the link to the church where you can see the set up of Fripp:
http://www.dgmlive.com/vision.htm?show=3D1670&id=3D3161

www.christojota.de
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>My problem with amplifying my ambient =
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You may not even need the direct box if you want to plug into the PA.  A =
bass amp would work better for you than those guitar amps.

t
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  My problem with amplifying my ambient soundscapes is that the=20
  keyboardsounds I use with my Roland GR 20 Guitarsyntesizer don=B4t =
work well with my guitar amps
  (Roland Jazz Chorus, Laney, Fender Deluxe).
  On a photo on Fripp=B4s website I noticed that he seems to
  use an active box system for amplification when he=B4s doing
  his soundscapes in churches.
  Does anyone know more about this and could you recommend a good system =
that=B4s not too expensive?
  Here is the link to the church where you can see the set up of Fripp:
  http://www.dgmlive.com/vision.htm?show=3D1670&id=3D3161

  www.christojota.de
  www.myspace.com/christojota

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soundscapes=20
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GR 20=20
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>On a photo on Fripp=B4s website I =
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>his soundscapes in =
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Here is the link to the church where =
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A=20
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Has anyone tried the AER 60 for soundscapes, maybe with extra speakers?

On Jan 15, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Toby G wrote:

> You may not even need the direct box if you want to plug into the =20
> PA.  A bass amp would work better for you than those guitar amps.
>
> t
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: chris@christojota.de
> To: Loopers-Delight
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:59 AM
> Subject: Fripp-Amplification
>
> My problem with amplifying my ambient soundscapes is that the
> keyboardsounds I use with my Roland GR 20 Guitarsyntesizer don=B4t =20
> work well with my guitar amps
> (Roland Jazz Chorus, Laney, Fender Deluxe).
> On a photo on Fripp=B4s website I noticed that he seems to
> use an active box system for amplification when he=B4s doing
> his soundscapes in churches.
> Does anyone know more about this and could you recommend a good =20
> system that=B4s not too expensive?
> Here is the link to the church where you can see the set up of Fripp:
> http://www.dgmlive.com/vision.htm?show=3D1670&id=3D3161
>
> www.christojota.de
> www.myspace.com/christojota
>


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Has anyone tried the AER 60 for =
soundscapes, maybe with extra speakers?<div><br><div><div>On Jan 15, =
2010, at 10:06 AM, Toby G wrote:</div><br =
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bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">You may not =
even need the direct box if you want to plug into the PA.&nbsp; A bass =
amp would work better for you than those guitar =
amps.</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font size=3D"2" =
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><br></div><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">My problem with =
amplifying my ambient soundscapes is that the</font></div><div><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">keyboardsounds I use with my Roland GR 20 =
Guitarsyntesizer don=B4t work well with&nbsp;my guitar =
amps</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">(Roland Jazz =
Chorus, Laney, Fender Deluxe).</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">On a photo on Fripp=B4s website I noticed that he seems =
to</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">use an active box =
system for amplification when he=B4s doing</font></div><div><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">his soundscapes in =
churches.</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Does anyone =
know more about this and could you recommend a good system that=B4s not =
too expensive?</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Here is =
the link to the church where you can see the set up of =
Fripp:</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><a =
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hi Chris,
2 options for you to explore

1) JBL Eon powered speakers  
2) If you're actually doing ambient in places like art galleries, then
   a pair of Genelec active monitors, even the small 8020, may be enough.

If you don't need stereo, then both of those options are available as single units.

The Roland stuff *shouldn't* need a DI box, and will go direct to a mixer,
or even to the active speaker.



I can't remember if Fripp had a guitar amp in addition to his quadrophonic set up
in Norwich Cathedral. The pa he had was not bad, but nothing special,
certainly not better than the Eons.

andy butler


chris@christojota.de wrote:
> My problem with amplifying my ambient soundscapes is that the
> keyboardsounds I use with my Roland GR 20 Guitarsyntesizer don´t work 
> well with my guitar amps

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Fripp just uses monitors and not amps.  Mackie powered speakers are really 
clean too.

t
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> hi Chris,
> 2 options for you to explore
>
> 1) JBL Eon powered speakers  2) If you're actually doing ambient in places 
> like art galleries, then
>   a pair of Genelec active monitors, even the small 8020, may be enough.
>
> If you don't need stereo, then both of those options are available as 
> single units.
>
> The Roland stuff *shouldn't* need a DI box, and will go direct to a mixer,
> or even to the active speaker.
>
>
>
> I can't remember if Fripp had a guitar amp in addition to his quadrophonic 
> set up
> in Norwich Cathedral. The pa he had was not bad, but nothing special,
> certainly not better than the Eons.
>
> andy butler
>
>
> chris@christojota.de wrote:
>> My problem with amplifying my ambient soundscapes is that the
>> keyboardsounds I use with my Roland GR 20 Guitarsyntesizer don´t work 
>> well with my guitar amps
>
> 

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no replies to this? i'm interested as well..

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, david kirkdorffer <unstrungone@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> Do you have suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's (online or
> broadcast) who welcome and play Ambient music?  Example of the music can be
> heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic - in particular the tracks
> "9.9.99" and "Home".   My ultimate goal is to help drive on-line sales from
> suitable exposure.
>

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no replies to this? i&#39;m interested as well..<br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, david kirkdorffer <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:unstrungone@yahoo.com">unstrungone@yahoo.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div>=A0=
</div>

<div>Do you have suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ&#39;s (onli=
ne or broadcast) who welcome and play Ambient music?=A0 Example of the musi=
c can be heard here: <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/undomusic" target=3D=
"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/undomusic</a> - in particular the tracks &q=
uot;9.9.99&quot; and &quot;Home&quot;.=A0=A0 My ultimate goal is to help dr=
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Too many. Use Google and contact them directly! I quickly gave up on
keeping my own contact list for promotional work since they all change
and Google gives you the data almost as fast as looking up and
correcting your local database. :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Simeon Harris
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> no replies to this? i'm interested as well..
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, david kirkdorffer <unstrungone@yahoo.com=
>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Do you have suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's (online or
>> broadcast) who welcome and play Ambient music?=C2=A0 Example of the musi=
c can be
>> heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic - in particular the tracks
>> "9.9.99" and "Home".=C2=A0=C2=A0 My ultimate goal is to help drive on-li=
ne sales from
>> suitable exposure.

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What do you think about the MACKIE SRM 350 V2
Fullrangesystem ( 10/1", 165W RMS LF/ 30W RMS HF, 90°x 80° CD-Horn, XLR in, 
XLR out, Gain, Contour-Filter)?
Problem: no "line-in".
The Mackie is a bit cheaper than the JBL. And has more power!
Does  the JBL have enough power for small locations:
JBL EON 10 G2, aktive Fullrangebox, 10"/1", Bi-amp 125W/50W, 1 Mic/line.

The Genelec 8020 seem to be a Studio Monitor, maybe not good for using in 
concert!?
Best,
Chris
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> hi Chris,
> 2 options for you to explore
>
> 1) JBL Eon powered speakers  2) If you're actually doing ambient in places
> like art galleries, then
>   a pair of Genelec active monitors, even the small 8020, may be enough.
>
> If you don't need stereo, then both of those options are available as
> single units.
>
> The Roland stuff *shouldn't* need a DI box, and will go direct to a mixer,
> or even to the active speaker.
>
>
>
> I can't remember if Fripp had a guitar amp in addition to his quadrophonic
> set up
> in Norwich Cathedral. The pa he had was not bad, but nothing special,
> certainly not better than the Eons.
>
> andy butler
>
>
> chris@christojota.de wrote:
>> My problem with amplifying my ambient soundscapes is that the
>> keyboardsounds I use with my Roland GR 20 Guitarsyntesizer don´t work
>> well with my guitar amps
>

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Quoting Krispen Hartung <khartung@q.com>:
>
> Hello folks.
>
> After over a year of contemplating this, I have decided to simplify  =20
> my life and ditch the laptop and music software.  Yes, it's  =20
> true...the guy who was the posterchild for eliminating hardware and  =20
> had built such as sweet system is changing approaches yet again. :)  =20
>   What am I playing now?  Eastman archtop jazz guitar and amp. =20
> That's  it. Time to focus and get real, spend less time on the =20
> computer and  more time playing with human beings.   I will be =20
> keeping an old  laptop with some editing software, but that is it.
>
> I'm selling some other items as well.    I open to trades too. I'm  =20
> looking for a high end all tube combo amp.
>
> For anyone interested, I am selling the following individually or as =20
>  a package deal:
>
Kris,

Forgive my delayed reply here.  I'm kind of surprised to read that =20
you've decided to hang up your looping gear.  At the same time, =20
looping isn't all things to all people -- it has its own peculiar =20
capabilities and limitations.

However, software-based music-making contains a risk: namely =20
option-shock.  There is an overwhelming amount of capability -- and =20
overwhelming is an understatement.  Sometimes one views all the =20
software-driven sonic capability with excitement and sometimes it all =20
becomes burdensome.  The risk with technology is the loss of =20
spontenaety.  To go through menu after menu of VST  sounds can be the =20
equivilant of wandering forty years in the desert.

My prediction is that you will return to laptop-based processing in =20
the future.  Well, not to worry -- technology isn't going to go away =20
and it will be there for you whenever you decide to return to it.

All the best!

-- Kevin

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/100107.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #666                January 7, 2010.

RECAP:
On this show, I began a month-long focus on Steve Roach.  The Featured
CD at Midnight was disk one from Arc of Passion on Projekt Records.

Steve Roach: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#jan


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Rene van der Wouden  Fixus part 1         Numerus Fixus (Rewo)
Alpha Wave Movement  Part 1               Cosmic Mandala (HRR)
Viridian Sun         Magnetars ast No     Infinite In All Directions
                                            (Hypnos)
Seren Ffordd         Stellar Nurseries *  Stellar Nurseries (Hypnos
                                            Secret Sounds)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Steve Roach          Moment of Grace      Arc of Passion (Projekt)
Steve Roach          Arc of Passion       Arc of Passion (Projekt)
Stephen Parsick      DNA Sequence *       Cambrium

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


=====

http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/100114.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
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                Show #667                January 14, 2010.

RECAP:
On this show, I began a month-long focus on Steve Roach.  The Featured
CD at Midnight was disk two from Arc of Passion on Projekt Records.

Steve Roach: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#jan


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
David Wright         Cassini              Sines of Life (ad music)
Markus Reuter and    The Watcher of       Dervish (DiN)
                       Loneliness
Synth.nl             Oceanography         OceanoGraphy (Groove)
Redshift             Broken World         RW Three (A Distant Sun)
Callisto             The Lighter Side of  Live at the Hampshire Jam
                       Gravity              (A. D. Music)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Steve Roach          Arc of Passion       Arc of Passion (Projekt)
                       (continued)
Steve Roach          Views Beyond         Arc of Passion (Projekt)
Faryus               Night Forest Vision  Night Forest Reality (Faria)

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on
Steve Roach.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk one from Dynamic
Stillness on Projekt Records.


Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in
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That is a good point, Luis, and is one of the many reasons for my decision. 
Over the years I have now seen hundreds of musicians making music with the 
computer, and I can confidently say that 95% of them spent most of their 
time staring at the computer and pushing buttons.  It started to feel very 
inhuman and impersonal to me after a while especially when being on the 
performance side.  Not only did I feel detached from the audience, but 
detached from who I was playing with. Music performance has always seemed 
like a very "human" and social thing for in the past. The computer seems to 
have changed that, and not just with music.  It's like now, rather than 
people picking up the phone and talking to someone, or dropping by their 
house for coffee, they send then an IM.  Technology, in some respects, is 
detaching us from each other, but bringing us closer in other respects. 
It's sort of ironic.   There is something to be said of playing an 
instrument with others, and being able to confront them, look them in the 
eyes, engage them, etc.  It creates a spark of social interaction.  Anway, I 
am only speaking for myself, but for now I just want to hug my big archop 
guitar and play music with others without computer screen and MIDI 
controllers getting in the way.

Kris


----- Original Message ----- 



yeah Chris right on man, we met briefly in the loop festivals but i remeber 
talking to you and we both agreed right away that interaction in the looping 
festivals or any jamming involved with so much talent around was missing,the 
hightlight for me of the last festival in Santa Cruz besides meeting so many 
wonderful people was jamming together with kevin,im also coming back to my 
roots of songwriting, trying to sing better and playing better guitar though 
the looping journey has been quite an experience.
cheers
Luis

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Well, I haven't given up on looping all together. It's the computer that I 
have issus with now.   I am still open to using a floor looper once in a 
while in certain contexts.  I think looping is a great tool if used 
appropriately.  It will not be a defining factor of my music, but I have no 
doubt that there will be a few performance where I break out that small Boss 
RC2.

I could very well return to the laptop in the future..maybe 2-3 years, 
probably more. My cycle for these sort of major changes seems to be in 7 
year increments, however. I started looping in 2004, and didn't add the 
laptop until 2005.  I could be 50 when I start using the laptop again, and 
if I do, it will be a MAC!!!  It will be a different interface...no MAX/msp, 
but some other system entirely.  By then, I would hope that the technology 
is so advanced that I don't have to touch the computer, but it will be all 
voice activated and interactive.

Kris


> Kris,

Forgive my delayed reply here.  I'm kind of surprised to read that
you've decided to hang up your looping gear.  At the same time,
looping isn't all things to all people -- it has its own peculiar
capabilities and limitations.

However, software-based music-making contains a risk: namely
option-shock.  There is an overwhelming amount of capability -- and
overwhelming is an understatement.  Sometimes one views all the
software-driven sonic capability with excitement and sometimes it all
becomes burdensome.  The risk with technology is the loss of
spontenaety.  To go through menu after menu of VST  sounds can be the
equivilant of wandering forty years in the desert.

My prediction is that you will return to laptop-based processing in
the future.  Well, not to worry -- technology isn't going to go away
and it will be there for you whenever you decide to return to it.

All the best!

-- Kevin

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chris@christojota.de wrote:
> What do you think about the MACKIE SRM 350 V2
> Fullrangesystem ( 10/1", 165W RMS LF/ 30W RMS HF, 90°x 80° CD-Horn, XLR 
> in, XLR out, Gain, Contour-Filter)?
> Problem: no "line-in".

The XLR can be used as line in.

> The Mackie is a bit cheaper than the JBL. And has more power!

More power doesn't always mean louder,
and louder is usually at the expense of clarity.
Actually the Mackie is specified as 8dB quieter than the JBL you mention below.

I've played through (and audienced) Mackies a lot (it's the only
brand in Santa Cruz).
Compared to the dire sound of the usual pa they are fantastic.
...but somewhat fatiguing to listen to, and their claim of
"studio speaker quality sound" is outrageous.
Depends what you're after, some people would call them 
"punchy", and would approve, some would call them "shouty"
and wouldn't be so impressed.



> Does  the JBL have enough power for small locations:

yes

> JBL EON 10 G2, aktive Fullrangebox, 10"/1", Bi-amp 125W/50W, 1 Mic/line.

what I have is the original Eon 15P-1 ,
very natural sounding, though probably not easy to obtain these days.
I haven't heard the newer G2 variation, which is supposed to be
louder.
Weirdly, the 10 in speakers don't have a frequency response
down to the lowest note on the guitar (80Hz).
(and the Mackie spec is slightly worse in that respect).




> 
> The Genelec 8020 seem to be a Studio Monitor, maybe not good for using 
> in concert!?

depends on the gig, I played a classical guitar set and a live-looping set
with them at a "background music" gig. People sat some distance away
and listened while others talked.
For a bar, they would be useless.

If you want to hear the complex layers in your music, don't
need pumpin' thumpin' volume, and are prepared to be careful with
your speakers then studio monitors might be a cost effective option. 


Sorry I don't have a clear cut answer.
I know you'd sound great thro' my old JBLs tho' ;-)

andy


> Best,
> Chris
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Fripp-Amplification
> 
> 
>> hi Chris,
>> 2 options for you to explore
>>
>> 1) JBL Eon powered speakers  2) If you're actually doing ambient in 
>> places
>> like art galleries, then
>>   a pair of Genelec active monitors, even the small 8020, may be enough.
>>
>> If you don't need stereo, then both of those options are available as
>> single units.
>>
>> The Roland stuff *shouldn't* need a DI box, and will go direct to a 
>> mixer,
>> or even to the active speaker.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can't remember if Fripp had a guitar amp in addition to his 
>> quadrophonic
>> set up
>> in Norwich Cathedral. The pa he had was not bad, but nothing special,
>> certainly not better than the Eons.
>>
>> andy butler
>>
>>
>> chris@christojota.de wrote:
>>> My problem with amplifying my ambient soundscapes is that the
>>> keyboardsounds I use with my Roland GR 20 Guitarsyntesizer don´t work
>>> well with my guitar amps
>>
> 
> 

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Not that he's a steady beatboxer but, here in the south there's a guy
named "Zack Deputy" www.zachdeputy.com/
I really like the way he employs three different mics on the stage.
One's for singing and the other two for beatboxing or "setting up the
beat"  The other two mics are very different; one to capture the highs
and one for the lows.  Like an overhead and a bass drum mic.  It's a
nice full effect when the beat takes off. Esp the low end  - it's
rockin'.

ag

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new digitech jamman on website:

http://www.digitech.com/products/Pedals/JamManStereo.php

and a small 1-pedal size model:

http://www.digitech.com/products/Pedals/JamManSolo.php

discuss....
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Hi Alkis,

Impossible request, since this is such a vaste area! You will receive
many suggestions based on people's individual favorites. Here's mine:
Since you already have Logic 9 you must also have Mainstage? In the
free upgrade of yesterday there was a useful live looping concert for
Mainstage, among the concert templates. If you just "want what you
play to be looped" that may be an option. I built this yesterday for
use with a band:
http://img49.yfrog.com/i/apmg.png/

If you want to use the looper more like an instrument (changing pitch,
slicing and dicing on the fly, building contrapunkt beside what you
play etc) Mobius may be a good option because of its scripting
capabilities that will let you do whatever you imagine.

I posted a chart summing up some of the cool loopers on the market I
and friends have had a chance to test here:
http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Alkis Diamantis
<requi3mcsor@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
> i m makin music based on loops.I m playin electric drums,piano,mouthorgan
> and accordion and i m looking for a program so i can loop all these live.=
Not
> premade loops.. i just want what i play to be looped ......
> at the moment i m using logic9 and protools for my project but i think i
> cant use these programs in my live performance.i would like you to inform=
 me
> about software and hardware that i need so i can loop live whatever i pla=
y
> in=C2=A0 software instruments midi and audio from a microphone.
> Waiting for reply,
>
>
>
>
> thanks.
>
> ps:i m using mac OSX leopard
> ________________________________
> Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you=E2=80=99re =
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Interesting. I like that the JamManStereo has loop select buttons built =
in.
And quite a bit of internal memory + card storage.

=20

Didn't see anything about being battery powered for either one.which is =
too
bad because that's one of the best features about the BossRC-20XL if you
have a battery powered amp and like to loop outdoors without relying on
having a power source to plug into.

=20

I don't have one anymore. but I kept that for my battery-powered looping =
rig
for quite some time, and used an RC-50 with the "powered" rig.

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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: new digitech jamman on website

=20


new digitech jamman on website:

http://www.digitech.com/products/Pedals/JamManStereo.php

and a small 1-pedal size model:

http://www.digitech.com/products/Pedals/JamManSolo.php

discuss....
s---
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card
storage.</span></font></p>

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being
battery powered for either one&#8230;which is too bad because =
that&#8217;s one
of the best features about the BossRC-20XL if you have a battery powered =
amp
and like to loop outdoors without relying on having a power source to =
plug
into.</span></font></p>

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I kept that for my battery-powered looping rig for quite some time, and =
used an
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> scott hansen
[mailto:evanpeewee@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 15, =
2010
1:39 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> new digitech =
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  and a small 1-pedal size model:<br>
  <br>
  http://www.digitech.com/products/Pedals/JamManSolo.php<br>
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I'd love it but I could never afford it.

Some other lucky (rich) slob's gonna have to help you on this one.

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Very interesting, Kris!

I don't remember people of this group quit looping but still stay here  
and talk about it (well, for years I was not reading most of the post,  
so that does not mean much)
Also, we hardly had any members so much involved not only in terms of  
quantity of mails, but real work like recording festivals and such!
And this intensity of yours of course makes you go through phases,  
passionate and exploring deeply, to then come out on the other side  
and abandon for the next phase... sure, you are an excellent guitar  
player who does not need the security net!
then again, music is not about "need" so the question would rather be  
whether looping would make the music stronger/richer/nicer/... or hold  
you back from... what?

did we ever list up the disadvantages of livelooping?
- need to control machine
- hard to change timing
- hard to change scale
- hard to escape from some typical song structures
...
?

On 14 Jan 2010, at 20:04, Krispen Hartung wrote:

> Hi Matthias,
>
> Nice hearing from you again!
>
> Yes, it is quite a change for me. I have recieved several private  
> responses from people in shock, thinking that there must be  
> something wrong with me or something drastic has happened in my  
> life, and I am almost ready to send my resonse to the group so it is  
> out on the table!  :)
>
> Anyway, looping and what I will use. The only context I can see  
> myself looping now is in a solo context, but just as a minor  
> background device...short phrases, ambient noises, etc.  In this  
> regard, I still have my Boss RC1 looper.  It is basic, but gets the  
> job done.   But, honesly, in my recent experiences with duos and  
> trios, I don't really see a need for looping. I like the space and  
> the dynamics of three live players. And even in a solo context, my  
> aim is to be self-sufficient. I can play free jazz guitar easy  
> enough, but the years of looping have got me addicted to having the  
> safety net of background loops. I sort of like being on my own and  
> exposed now.
>
> Kris
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> wow, Kris!
>
> nobody answers this one?
> you have been off and on with this several times already, right?
> after a while of the amp you will long for the special effects  
> again... :-)
> I have a hard time with the computer, too, I must admit...
> we even talked about a polyphonic tube amp these days :-)
>
> and what do you use for looping? did you ditch that too? a band?
>
> On 14 Jan 2010, at 01:34, Krispen Hartung wrote:
>
>> Hello folks.
>>
>> After over a year of contemplating this, I have decided to simplify  
>> my life and ditch the laptop and music software.  Yes, it's  
>> true...the guy who was the posterchild for eliminating hardware and  
>> had built such as sweet system is changing approaches yet  
>> again. :)   What am I playing now?  Eastman archtop jazz guitar and  
>> amp. That's it. Time to focus and get real, spend less time on the  
>> computer and more time playing with human beings.   I will be  
>> keeping an old laptop with some editing software, but that is it.
>>

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 Hey Kris,
I noticed your absence from the list in the last year and I was wondering
about your music.
I remember you where looking for collaborations in a techno-jazz album and
Ted answered to your call.
So, what about that project ?
I'm impressed by this (drastic ?) new change and hope you'll remain on the
list: your past contribution about looping techniques, setups, softwares and
discussions about music and ...God knows what else, was of the highest
level.
Best for your new musical journey.

Fabio

Il giorno 14/gen/2010, alle ore 05.34, "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@q.com> ha
scritto:

  Hello folks.

After over a year of contemplating this, I have decided to simplify my life
and ditch the laptop and music software.  Yes, it's true...the guy who was
the posterchild for eliminating hardware and had built such as
sweet system is changing approaches yet again. :)   What am I playing now?
Eastman archtop jazz guitar and amp. That's it. Time to focus and get
real, spend less time on the computer and more time playing with
human beings.   I will be keeping an old laptop with some editing software,
but that is it.

I'm selling some other items as well.   * I open to trades too. I'm looking
for a high end all tube combo amp.  *

For anyone interested, I am selling the following individually or as a
package deal:

*RME Fireface 400* - *$600* plus shipping (sells new for $1000)
More info: http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_fireface_400.php

*Lenovo ThinkPad T60p Notebook Computer*
(model #2623 - Intel Core Duo T2500 processor, 2GHz, 2GB or RAM)
Has cardbus adaptor for Fireface 400 connection
Loaded with Max/MSP, Reaktor, hundreds of VST programs, purchased VST
programs (at least $1000 worth), etc
I have sunk nearly $5K into this laptop for music performance, as many of
you know.
*$1000*
More info at*: **
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-62487
*<http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-62487>

*Both for $1400 + shipping *

***

Also for sale:

*Goldtone GM6 6-string Mandolin - $225
*Includes nice case
Also includes a installed feather pickup (not stock)
$200 (plus shipping)
More info:
http://www.instrumentalley.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=GM-6&click=35

*Fender Pro Junior Tube Amp w/ cover* *(sells new for $400) - $250  (SOLD)*
Excellent condition, used very little
$250 (plus shipping)
More info: http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0213203000

*LR Baggs Para Acoustic DI*  - $100
More info: http://www.lrbaggs.com/paradi.htm

Cheers,

Kris
www.krispenhartung.com

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<div>Hey Kris,=A0</div>
<div>I noticed your absence from the list in the last year and I was wonder=
ing about your music.</div>
<div>I remember you where looking for collaborations in a techno-jazz album=
 and Ted answered to your call.</div>
<div>So, what about that project ?=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;m impressed by this (drastic ?) new change and h<span>ope you&#3=
9;ll remain on the list: your past contribution about looping techniques, s=
etups, softwares and discussions about music and ...God knows what else, wa=
s of the highest level.</span></div>

<div>Best for your new musical journey.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Fabio =A0=A0<br><br>Il giorno 14/gen/2010, alle ore 05.34, &quot;Krisp=
en Hartung&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com" target=3D"_blank">kh=
artung@q.com</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br><br></div>
<div></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hello folks.<br><br>After over a year =
of contemplating this, I have decided to simplify my life and ditch the=A0l=
aptop and music software.=A0 Yes, it&#39;s true...the guy who was the poste=
rchild for eliminating hardware and had built such as sweet=A0system=A0is=
=A0changing approaches yet again. :)=A0=A0 What am I playing now?=A0 Eastma=
n archtop jazz guitar and amp. That&#39;s=A0it. Time to focus and get real,=
=A0spend less time on the computer and more time playing with human=A0being=
s. =A0 I will be keeping an old laptop with some editing software, but that=
 is it. </font></div>

<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I&#39;m selling some other items as we=
ll.=A0=A0=A0<u> I open to trades too. I&#39;m looking for a=A0high end all=
=A0tube combo amp.=A0 </u></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><br>For anyone interested, I am sellin=
g the following individually or as a package deal:<br><br><strong>RME Firef=
ace 400</strong> - <strong>$600</strong> plus shipping (sells new for $1000=
)</font></div>

<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">More info: <a href=3D"http://www.rme-a=
udio.de/en_products_fireface_400.php" target=3D"_blank"><a href=3D"http://w=
ww.rme-audio.de/en_products_fireface_400.php" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
rme-audio.de/en_products_fireface_400.php</a></a><br>
<br><strong>Lenovo ThinkPad T60p Notebook Computer</strong><br>(model #2623=
 - Intel Core Duo T2500 processor, 2GHz, 2GB or RAM)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Has cardbus adaptor for Fireface=A0400=
 connection<br>Loaded with Max/MSP, Reaktor,=A0hundreds of VST programs, pu=
rchased VST programs (at least $1000 worth), etc<br>I have sunk nearly $5K =
into this laptop for music performance, as many of you know. <br>
<strong>$1000</strong>=20
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">More info at<strong>: </strong><a href=
=3D"http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=3Dleno=
vo&amp;lndocid=3DMIGR-62487" target=3D"_blank"><strong>http://www-307.ibm.c=
om/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=3Dlenovo&amp;lndocid=3DMIGR-62=
487</strong></a></font></div>

<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><br><strong>Both for $1400 + shipping =
</strong></font></div></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">***<br><br>Also for sale:</font></div>
<div><br><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial"><strong>Goldtone GM6 6-strin=
g Mandolin - $225<br></strong>Includes nice case <br>Also includes a instal=
led feather pickup (not stock)<br>$200 (plus shipping) </font></font></div>

<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">More info: </font><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.instrumentalley.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3DGM-6&amp;click=3D35"=
 target=3D"_blank"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">http://www.instrumentall=
ey.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3DGM-6&amp;click=3D35</font></a><br>
<br><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial"><strong>Fender Pro Junior Tube Am=
p w/ cover</strong> <strong>(sells new for $400) - $250=A0 <font color=3D"#=
ff0000">(SOLD)</font></strong><br>Excellent condition, used very little <br=
>$250 (plus shipping) </font></font></div>

<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">More info: </font><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=3D0213203000" target=3D"_blank"><fo=
nt face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?part=
no=3D0213203000</font></a><br>
<br><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial"><strong>LR Baggs Para Acoustic DI=
</strong>=A0 - $100</font></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">More info: </font><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.lrbaggs.com/paradi.htm" target=3D"_blank"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"=
>http://www.lrbaggs.com/paradi.htm</font></a><br><br><font face=3D"Arial" s=
ize=3D"2">Cheers,<br>
<br>Kris</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><a href=3D"http://www.krispenhartung.c=
om/" target=3D"_blank"><a href=3D"http://www.krispenhartung.com/" target=3D=
"_blank">www.krispenhartung.com</a></a></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div></div></blockquote></d=
iv>

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Oh man, The description sounds like the perfect midi foot controller for my
needs. Thank you for the heads up,


Todd Matthews

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:

> the grid of arrows looks a bit miniscule, but i need to see it better.
>
> let us know what your impressions are bill.
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2010, at 6:05 PM, William Walker wrote:
>
> the softstep foot controller...
>
> http://bit.ly/4VSJ75
>
> Huba Huba, that is one sexy beast, only one expression pedal port and
> optional midi? Thats kind of lame for us hardware and expression pedal using
> guys but man is that sweet,  Seems they could have terraced the two rows as
> well, picky picky .They will be close to us in Hall A so I will check em
> out. I bet it won't be cheap........
> Bill
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Oh man, The description sounds like the perfect midi foot controller for my=
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ass=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Zoe Keating <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:info@zoekeating.com">info@zoekeating.com</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"">t=
he grid of arrows looks a bit miniscule, but i need to see it better.=A0<di=
v><br>
</div><div>let us know what your impressions are bill.</div><div><div></div=
><div class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div>On Jan 14, 2010, =
at 6:05 PM, William Walker wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div s=
tyle=3D"">
the softstep foot controller...<br><br><a href=3D"http://bit.ly/4VSJ75" sty=
le=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" target=3D"_blank">http://bi=
t.ly/4VSJ75</a>=A0<br><div><br></div><div>Huba Huba, that is one sexy beast=
, only one expression pedal port and optional midi? Thats kind of lame for =
us hardware and expression pedal using guys but man is that sweet, =A0Seems=
 they could have terraced the two rows as well, picky picky .They will be c=
lose to us in Hall A so I will check em out. I bet it won&#39;t be cheap...=
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Personally - as a guitar player - I HATE the sound of my looping rig direct=
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cabs and 1000 watts of amplification feeding them.=A0=A0 =0ASmaller gigs - =
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ally small locations, just the JC120.=0A=0AAnd trust me I am hitting some c=
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<head><style>body{font-family: Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;}p{margin:0px}</style></head><body id="compText">my mantra forever has been-an electric guitar's sound (for me!) is determined by many things but mainly the guitar the amplifier and the spkr cabinet. they all play significant parts to a whole signature of sound. you cant really remove any of those things<br><br><br><blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: david kirkdorffer <unstrungone@yahoo.com>
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<br>Subject: Fripp-Amplification
<br><zzzhtml><zzzhead><style type="text/css"><ZZZ!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></zzzhead><zzzbody><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Personally - as a guitar player - I HATE the sound of my looping rig direct to monitors.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
<div>I much prefer to go through stereo ((4x10) x2) bass cabs and 1000 watts of amplification feeding them.&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>
<div>Smaller gigs - a JC 120 AND a Fender Bandmaster head into a 15 inch bass speaker.&nbsp; </div>
<div>Really small locations, just the JC120.&nbsp;</div>
<div>And trust me I am hitting some crazy lows and hi's with my set-up. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
<div>Having&nbsp;2 &nbsp;layers of compression helps though! :-)</div>
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Ted and I still hope to release that free jazz/techno CD. We need just a =
few more songs and we are ready to go.   We took a break.

Of course, I'll stay on the list. I love you guys!  :)

Kris

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  I remember you where looking for collaborations in a techno-jazz album =
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  So, what about that project ?=20
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Hi David -- can you expound on the 2 layers of compression (or compression =
in general). I have tried several compressors but just never got into using=
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ic=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: david kirkdorffer <unst=
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anuary 15, 2010 5:37:49 PM=0ASubject: Fripp-Amplification=0A=0A=0APersonall=
y - as a guitar player - I HATE the sound of my looping rig direct to monit=
ors.=A0 =0A=0AI much prefer to go through stereo ((4x10) x2) bass cabs and =
1000 watts of amplification feeding them.=A0=A0 =0ASmaller gigs - a JC 120 =
AND a Fender Bandmaster head into a 15 inch bass speaker.=A0 =0AReally smal=
l locations, just the JC120.=0A=0AAnd trust me I am hitting some crazy lows=
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sion (or compression in general). I have tried several compressors but just=
 never got into using them with my guitar, I thought they killed the dynami=
cs.<BR></DIV>=0A<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman=
, new york, times, serif">Thanks,</DIV>=0A<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FO=
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gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Loopers-Delight@=
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> Fri, January 15, 2010 5:37:49 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">=
Subject:</SPAN></B> Fripp-Amplification<BR></FONT><BR>=0A<DIV style=3D"FONT=
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s.&nbsp; </DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>I much prefer to go through ster=
eo ((4x10) x2) bass cabs and 1000 watts of amplification feeding them.&nbsp=
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me crazy lows and hi's with my set-up.&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DI=
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Based on this we have stopped them from handling any foreign contractors/inheritance payments to avoid them not to tarnish the image of our country and bank so if you are in any way communicating or dealing with any body or person(s) in regards to your payment, you are now advised to stop and any money you send to any of them is at your own risk.
For the fact that your payment has been delayed for so long with us and you have gone many ways to receive the payment by bank to bank transfer all at to no avail because of the stop order and demands of several certificates and documentations.
 
 
We have therefore concluded after our yesterday meeting with the Presidency that all the contractors/inheritance beneficiaries will be receiving their overdue payment via Cash Diplomatic Payment Delivery Direct to U.S where you will receive your payment.
 
This is the only way you will receive your payment without stress or more expenses. All the necessary arrangements regarding the delivery of your payment has been put to place only waiting to hear from you as soon as you receive this message today.
 
 
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Note: It was mandated by Federal Government of Nigeria to finalize with your payment on or before next week Wednesday so as to update our payment record before the month runs out. Therefore, you are advice to respond to this message immediately and call me as you read this mail.
 
Best Regards,

Dr. Wisdom Michael
Accountant General,
Central Bank of Nigeria.

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Attention: Beneficiary;
 
I Am Dr. Wisdom Michael Accountant General Central Bank Of Nigeria, I decided to contact you based on the information we gathered concerning your contract/inheritance funds, which we are still unable to pay you.
 
After our year 2008 Audit, we discovered through our payment files that your contract/inheritance payment are still unpaid to you and we tried to find out why you have not received your payment up till this moment and we could not find out any good reason why he officials of this bank decided to stop your payment and we also discovered in our files that you have made several payment in order to receive your payment but all to no avail.
 
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ok, so i've found three distinct xml files on my hard drive:

c:\program files\mobius
c:\program files\plogue\bidule...
c:\program files\ableton\live 8.1.1\program

as well, i un- and re-installed mobius and now the ui comes up in live but
if you move it out of the way or close it you still see ableton telling you
"blah blah blah severe problem blah blah will shut down" and then it shuts
down.

anybody else running 8.1.1?  if not, anybody wanna try the demo?

- jim

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ok, so i&#39;ve found three distinct xml files on my hard drive:<br><br>c:\=
program files\mobius<br>c:\program files\plogue\bidule...<br>c:\program fil=
es\ableton\live 8.1.1\program<br><br>as well, i un- and re-installed mobius=
 and now the ui comes up in live but if you move it out of the way or close=
 it you still see ableton telling you &quot;blah blah blah severe problem b=
lah blah will shut down&quot; and then it shuts down.=A0 <br>
<br>anybody else running 8.1.1?=A0 if not, anybody wanna try the demo?<br><=
br>- jim<br>

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I wanted to let you know that this *Sunday morning, January 17th, at 11am
EST*,  'Dig It Signal <http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive>' gathers
together again from thousands of miles apart to the virtual electronic stag=
e
to perform live.

We've been using classic films of late for video cover and this time we are
using, 'The Lost World <http://www.archive.org/details/lost_world_ACM>', an
early adaption of the classic novel of the same name by Sir Arthur Conan
Doyle <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Arthur_Conan_Doyle> about a land
where pre-historic creatures roam.  This is some of the earliest stop motio=
n
animation ever done.  Catch it with our aural soundscape all live at...

http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive.

We are via NinJam...

Peter Th=F6rn - Sweden
Jim Goodin - New York
Ray Istorico - Florida
Jeff Duke - Florida

Join us at 11am EST on Sunday.  For times in your specific part of the worl=
d
please visit http://www.timeanddate.com/WorldClock.

Best


Jim
--=20
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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I wanted to let you know that this <i>Sunday morning, January 17th, at 11am=
 EST</i>,=A0 &#39;<a href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Dig It Signal</a>&#39;
gathers together again from thousands of miles apart to the virtual
electronic stage to perform live.<br><br>We&#39;ve been using classic films=
 of late for video cover and this time we are using, &#39;<a href=3D"http:/=
/www.archive.org/details/lost_world_ACM" target=3D"_blank">The Lost World</=
a>&#39;, an early adaption of the classic novel of the same name by <a href=
=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Arthur_Conan_Doyle" target=3D"_blank">=
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle</a>
about a land where pre-historic creatures roam.=A0 This is some of the
earliest stop motion animation ever done.=A0 Catch it with our aural
soundscape all live at...<br>

<br><font size=3D"4"><a href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive</a></font>.<br>=
<br>We are via NinJam...<br><br>Peter Th=F6rn - Sweden<br>Jim Goodin - New =
York<br>

Ray Istorico - Florida<br>
Jeff Duke - Florida<br><br>Join us at 11am EST on Sunday.=A0 For times in y=
our specific part of the world please visit <a href=3D"http://www.timeandda=
te.com/WorldClock" target=3D"_blank">http://www.timeanddate.com/WorldClock<=
/a>.<br>
<br clear=3D"all">Best<br><br><br>Jim<br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective tex=
tural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/C=
tReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.co=
m">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
<br>

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Sorry to bother the list with this, but there are so many guitarists  
here, I thought I might get an answer, as I haven't come up with one  
on my own.

I'm looking for a source of the tweed fabric fender used on its old  
amps. Does anyone here know where I might find some? I would also be  
interested in finding the fabric they used to cover the speaker hole.

Thanks a lot -

Doc

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possibly torresengineering.com    maybe stew-mac.com

they sell amp kits and may have tweed ones.


t
On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:33 PM, doc rossi wrote:

> Sorry to bother the list with this, but there are so many  
> guitarists here, I thought I might get an answer, as I haven't come  
> up with one on my own.
>
> I'm looking for a source of the tweed fabric fender used on its old  
> amps. Does anyone here know where I might find some? I would also  
> be interested in finding the fabric they used to cover the speaker  
> hole.
>
> Thanks a lot -
>
> Doc
>

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try this:
http://www.vibroworld.com/parts/tech11.html


On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Toby Graves wrote:

> possibly torresengineering.com    maybe stew-mac.com
>
> they sell amp kits and may have tweed ones.
>
>
> t
> On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:33 PM, doc rossi wrote:
>
>> Sorry to bother the list with this, but there are so many  
>> guitarists here, I thought I might get an answer, as I haven't  
>> come up with one on my own.
>>
>> I'm looking for a source of the tweed fabric fender used on its  
>> old amps. Does anyone here know where I might find some? I would  
>> also be interested in finding the fabric they used to cover the  
>> speaker hole.
>>
>> Thanks a lot -
>>
>> Doc
>>
>

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Subject: Re: OT - Fender Tweed
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 08:57:05 +0100
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Excellent!  Thanks, Toby - I knew I'd find the answer here.

On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Toby Graves wrote:

> try this:
> http://www.vibroworld.com/parts/tech11.html
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Toby Graves wrote:
>
>> possibly torresengineering.com    maybe stew-mac.com
>>
>> they sell amp kits and may have tweed ones.
>>
>>
>> t
>> On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:33 PM, doc rossi wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry to bother the list with this, but there are so many  
>>> guitarists here, I thought I might get an answer, as I haven't  
>>> come up with one on my own.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a source of the tweed fabric fender used on its  
>>> old amps. Does anyone here know where I might find some? I would  
>>> also be interested in finding the fabric they used to cover the  
>>> speaker hole.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot -
>>>
>>> Doc
>>>
>>
>

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Subject: Re: OT - Fender Tweed
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vibroworld.com provided me with more information to do another search  
and I found a european source, if anyone else is interested.

https://www.etronic-parts.com/

thanks again.


On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Toby Graves wrote:

> try this:
> http://www.vibroworld.com/parts/tech11.html
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Toby Graves wrote:
>
>> possibly torresengineering.com    maybe stew-mac.com
>>
>> they sell amp kits and may have tweed ones.
>>
>>
>> t
>> On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:33 PM, doc rossi wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry to bother the list with this, but there are so many  
>>> guitarists here, I thought I might get an answer, as I haven't  
>>> come up with one on my own.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a source of the tweed fabric fender used on its  
>>> old amps. Does anyone here know where I might find some? I would  
>>> also be interested in finding the fabric they used to cover the  
>>> speaker hole.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot -
>>>
>>> Doc
>>>
>>
>

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Mojotone.com

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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>Microsoft Promotion Award Team "'</B></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>Dr.Helen Gibson </B></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B><U>OFFICIAL WINNING NOTIFICATION.</B></U></FONT><FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B> ""</B></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>It is ovious that this notification will come to you as a surprise but please find time to read it carefully as we congratulate you over your success in the following official publication of results of the E-mail electronic online Sweepstakes organized by Microsoft, in conjunction with the foundation for the promotion of software products, (F.P.S.) held this month in London UK. Where in your email address emerged as one of the online Winning emails in the1st category and therefore attracted a cash award of </B></FONT><FONT size=3 color=#FF0000 face="Book Antiqua">£950,000,00</FONT><FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B> {</B></FONT><FONT size=3 color=#FF0000 face="Book Antiqua"><B>Nine Hundred And FiftyThousand Great British Pounds</B></FONT><FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>}</B></FONT><FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"> </FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 color=#FF0000 face="Book Antiqua"><B>1st. </B></FONT><FONT size=3 color=#FF0000 face="Book Antiqua">£</FONT><FONT size=3 color=#FF0000 face="Book Antiqua"><B> 950,000.00 pounds each </B></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 color=#FF0000 face="Book Antiqua"><B>3rd. </B></FONT><FONT size=3 color=#FF0000 face="Book Antiqua">£ </FONT><FONT size=3 color=#FF0000 face="Book Antiqua"><B>350,000.00 pounds each </B></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>We write to officially notify you of this award and to advise you to contact the processing office immediately upon receipt of this message for more information concerning the verification, processing and eventual payment of the above prize to you. It is important to note that your award information was released with</B></FONT><FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"> </FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>(1) Award numbers: </B></FONT><FONT size=3 color=#FF0000 face="Book Antiqua"><B>MLAT#2009</B></FONT><FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B> </B></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>(2) Email ticket numbers: </B></FONT><FONT size=3 color=#FF0000 face="Book Antiqua"><B>1587-5896-4598-87,</B></FONT><FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B> </B></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>{5} Serial Numbers: </B></FONT><FONT size=3 color=#FF0000 face="Book Antiqua"><B>McST/776/ML10101</B></FONT><FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B> </B></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>FOREIGN TRANSFER MANAGER</B></FONT><BR>
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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>MICROSOFT SECURITY DEPARTMENT (UK).</B></FONT><BR>
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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>The Microsoft Internet E-mail lottery Awards is sponsored by our CEO/Chairman, Bill Gates and a consortium of software promotion companies. The Intel Group, Toshiba, Dell Computers and other International Companies. The Microsoft internet E-mail draw is held periodically and is organized to encourage the use of the Internet and promote computer literacy worldwide. The Microsoft Window lottery has discovered a huge number of double claims due to winners informing close friends relatives and third parties about their winning and also sharing their pin numbers.</B></FONT><FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"> </FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"><B>As a result of this, these friends try to claim the lottery on behalf of the real winners. The Microsoft lottery has reached a decision from headquarters that any double claim discovered by the Lottery Board will result to the Canceling of that particular winning, making a loss for both the double claimer and the real winner, as it is taken that the real winner was the informer to the double claimer about the lottery. So you are hereby strongly advised once more to keep your winnings strictly confidential until you claim your prize.</B></FONT><FONT size=3 face="Book Antiqua"> </FONT></DIV>
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david kirkdorffer wrote:
> Personally - as a guitar player - I HATE the sound of my looping rig 
> direct to monitors. 
>  

Could be you never had good monitors, and spent
the time(gear) to set up your sound to work with them.

Not suggesting you *should* of course ;-)

andy 



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Jim Goodin schrieb:
> We've been using classic films of late for video cover and this time 
> we are using, 'The Lost World 
> <http://www.archive.org/details/lost_world_ACM>', an early adaption of 
> the classic novel of the same name by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Arthur_Conan_Doyle> about a land 
> where pre-historic creatures roam.  This is some of the earliest stop 
> motion animation ever done.  Catch it with our aural soundscape all 
> live at...
I'm kinda curious Jim - the movies you're using, are they works that 
have gone to the public domain because of their age? (I think I read 
that copyright is something that ends about 60 or 70 years after the 
holders' death - is this the case with those movies, or is that some 
other mechanism).
> <http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive>Join us at 11am EST on 
> Sunday.  For times in your specific part of the world please visit 
> http://www.timeanddate.com/WorldClock.
Sure will do. one recommendation: timeanddate.com allows you to set a 
fixed date/time page, so you could just give people a link to a page 
where they can look up the actual time in their place. And the link 
doesn't work (I figure it has to be spelled "worldclock" all lowercase).

Yours,

                Rainer

ps: Today is the seventh and last day of "An Ambient Manifold" - and 
also the first official MoinSound Studio Session in this year. Tune in 
at 1700GMT at
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions
Time/Date link: http://fwd4.me/BbJ
Video Archives: http://fwd4.me/BMb

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Hey Rainer,

On public domain, I found this wikipedia http://tinyurl.com/yb6j8wy and then 
I look for the films at archive.org or other places.

Here is a fixed time for the gig on Sunday for DigItSignal 
http://tinyurl.com/yz7fuof

http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive

See you there and later at your set today.

best,

Jeff


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> Jim Goodin schrieb:
>> We've been using classic films of late for video cover and this time we 
>> are using, 'The Lost World 
>> <http://www.archive.org/details/lost_world_ACM>', an early adaption of 
>> the classic novel of the same name by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Arthur_Conan_Doyle> about a land where 
>> pre-historic creatures roam.  This is some of the earliest stop motion 
>> animation ever done.  Catch it with our aural soundscape all live at...
> I'm kinda curious Jim - the movies you're using, are they works that have 
> gone to the public domain because of their age? (I think I read that 
> copyright is something that ends about 60 or 70 years after the holders' 
> death - is this the case with those movies, or is that some other 
> mechanism).
>> <http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive>Join us at 11am EST on Sunday. 
>> For times in your specific part of the world please visit 
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/WorldClock.
> Sure will do. one recommendation: timeanddate.com allows you to set a 
> fixed date/time page, so you could just give people a link to a page where 
> they can look up the actual time in their place. And the link doesn't work 
> (I figure it has to be spelled "worldclock" all lowercase).
>
> Yours,
>
>                Rainer
>
> ps: Today is the seventh and last day of "An Ambient Manifold" - and also 
> the first official MoinSound Studio Session in this year. Tune in at 
> 1700GMT at
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions
> Time/Date link: http://fwd4.me/BbJ
> Video Archives: http://fwd4.me/BMb
>
> -- 
> http://moinlabs.de
> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
> 

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Rainer is now live on Ustream

 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions


j



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> Hey Rainer,
>
> On public domain, I found this wikipedia http://tinyurl.com/yb6j8wy and 
> then I look for the films at archive.org or other places.
>
> Here is a fixed time for the gig on Sunday for DigItSignal 
> http://tinyurl.com/yz7fuof
>
> http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive
>
> See you there and later at your set today.
>
> best,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rainer Straschill" <moinsound@googlemail.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:14 AM
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>
>> Jim Goodin schrieb:
>>> We've been using classic films of late for video cover and this time we 
>>> are using, 'The Lost World 
>>> <http://www.archive.org/details/lost_world_ACM>', an early adaption of 
>>> the classic novel of the same name by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Arthur_Conan_Doyle> about a land where 
>>> pre-historic creatures roam.  This is some of the earliest stop motion 
>>> animation ever done.  Catch it with our aural soundscape all live at...
>> I'm kinda curious Jim - the movies you're using, are they works that have 
>> gone to the public domain because of their age? (I think I read that 
>> copyright is something that ends about 60 or 70 years after the holders' 
>> death - is this the case with those movies, or is that some other 
>> mechanism).
>>> <http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive>Join us at 11am EST on 
>>> Sunday. For times in your specific part of the world please visit 
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/WorldClock.
>> Sure will do. one recommendation: timeanddate.com allows you to set a 
>> fixed date/time page, so you could just give people a link to a page 
>> where they can look up the actual time in their place. And the link 
>> doesn't work (I figure it has to be spelled "worldclock" all lowercase).
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>>                Rainer
>>
>> ps: Today is the seventh and last day of "An Ambient Manifold" - and also 
>> the first official MoinSound Studio Session in this year. Tune in at 
>> 1700GMT at
>> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions
>> Time/Date link: http://fwd4.me/BbJ
>> Video Archives: http://fwd4.me/BMb
>>
>> -- 
>> http://moinlabs.de
>> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
>>
>
> 

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Dear Friend,

I could not contact you earlier before now due to my tight schedules. I am very happy to inform you about my success in getting that money under the cooperation of a new partner from England Presently. I am in England with the partner for some projects with the money.

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Best regards,
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I personally cannot help you with looping on the computer.

Other than my MacBook Pro DAW I am still basically a "hardware guy".

But what you're doing with your particular mix of instruments sounds =20
intriguing.

I, for one would like to hear the results when you get around to =20
recording.

Best of luck,

Ted Killian

On Jan 15, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Alkis Diamantis wrote:

> Hi there,
> i m makin music based on loops.I m playin electric =20
> drums,piano,mouthorgan and accordion and i m looking for a program =20
> so i can loop all these live.Not premade loops.. i just want what i =20=

> play to be looped ......
> at the moment i m using logic9 and protools for my project but i =20
> think i cant use these programs in my live performance.i would like =20=

> you to inform me about software and hardware that i need so i can =20
> loop live whatever i play in  software instruments midi and audio =20
> from a microphone.
> Waiting for reply,
>
>
>
>
> thanks.
>
> ps:i m using mac OSX leopard
> Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you=92re up =20=

> to on Facebook.

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Hi Everyone,
I've been reading the list a while, but have never really posted. I've been
watching this Mobius and Live thread moving, and I felt it was time to chime
in. I also had issues running Mobius in live, Sometimes I could get the
plugin open, but I couldn't map any midi to it, and most times as soon as I
started running audio, Mobius crashed and took Live with it. Having said all
that, I managed to work out the issue I was having with live's own looper,
and now I have 5 loopers running in Live in sync, and faders on my Axiom 49
controlling the volume of each loop. Not as much functionality as Mobius,
but super easy set up within Live. I hope I can try running Mobius again in
the future, but for now the (awesome) scripting capabilities seem more of a
hindrance than aid, since I have little to no experience with that and I'm
putting together a one man band act using my acoustic, a MIDI footcontroller
, a keyboard, and a laptop, and lose enough time to practice.

Rafael

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:21 PM, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:

> ok, so i've found three distinct xml files on my hard drive:
>
> c:\program files\mobius
> c:\program files\plogue\bidule...
> c:\program files\ableton\live 8.1.1\program
>
> as well, i un- and re-installed mobius and now the ui comes up in live but
> if you move it out of the way or close it you still see ableton telling you
> "blah blah blah severe problem blah blah will shut down" and then it shuts
> down.
>
> anybody else running 8.1.1?  if not, anybody wanna try the demo?
>
> - jim
>

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Hi Everyone,<div>I&#39;ve been reading the list a while, but have never rea=
lly posted. I&#39;ve been watching this Mobius and Live thread moving, and =
I felt it was time to chime in. I also had issues running Mobius in live, S=
ometimes I could get the plugin open, but I couldn&#39;t map any midi to it=
, and most times as soon as I started running audio, Mobius crashed and too=
k Live with it. Having said all that, I managed to work out the issue I was=
 having with live&#39;s own looper, and now I have 5 loopers running in Liv=
e in sync, and faders on my Axiom 49 controlling the volume of each loop. N=
ot as much functionality as Mobius, but super easy set up within Live. I ho=
pe I can try running Mobius again in the future, but for now the (awesome) =
scripting capabilities seem more of a hindrance than aid, since I have litt=
le to no experience with that and I&#39;m putting together a one man band a=
ct using my acoustic, a MIDI footcontroller , a keyboard, and a laptop, and=
 lose enough time to practice.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>Rafael<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 15=
, 2010 at 7:21 PM, james fowler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:two=
stroke@gmail.com">twostroke@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex;">
ok, so i&#39;ve found three distinct xml files on my hard drive:<br><br>c:\=
program files\mobius<br>c:\program files\plogue\bidule...<br>c:\program fil=
es\ableton\live 8.1.1\program<br><br>as well, i un- and re-installed mobius=
 and now the ui comes up in live but if you move it out of the way or close=
 it you still see ableton telling you &quot;blah blah blah severe problem b=
lah blah will shut down&quot; and then it shuts down.=A0 <br>

<br>anybody else running 8.1.1?=A0 if not, anybody wanna try the demo?<br><=
br>- jim<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Rafael Nunes <supersimples@gmail.com> wrote:
> live's own looper

I think that's a great little looper! As good as Loopback in
Mainstage, they are just a little different by feature setup. Except
for those two I go to Augustus Loop for more advanced pitch/speed
shift playing and to Mobius for solo concerts where I need everything
plus synchronized timing between multiple simultaneously playing
loops.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Forwarding this message about a music venue to the list for those who  
might be interested.

regards

BobC

http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5
http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego




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> From: "sistrum1" <sistrum1@hotmail.com>
> Date: January 16, 2010 2:18:46 PM PST
> To: publiceyesore@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [publiceyesore] Improvised and Experimental Series at  
> Clawfoot House
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>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'd like to let everyone know about the Clawfoot House performance/ 
> gallery space I helped start in Lincoln, NE in early 2009.  We have  
> been organizing 9 or 10 shows a month of a variety of styles and are  
> trying to make it one of the better new music venues in this part of  
> the country.  We would like to make each show a unique experience by  
> organizing site specific recording sessions, releases,  
> collaborations, and video work in conjunction with the  
> performances.  We also have done a number of visual art exhibitions,  
> plays, book readings, and workshops.  Email me as sistrum1 at  
> hotmail dot com if you plan on being in the area of the country, or  
> are interested in some kind of exhibition.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bryan Day
> www.clawfoothouse.com
> www.publiceyesore.com

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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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about a music venue to the list for those who might be =
interested.</div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div><br></div><div>BobC=
</div><div><br></div><div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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"><b>[publiceyesore] Improvised and Experimental Series at Clawfoot =
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know about the Clawfoot House performance/gallery space I helped start =
in Lincoln, NE in early 2009. &nbsp;We have been organizing 9 or 10 =
shows a month of a variety of styles and are trying to make it one of =
the better new music venues in this part of the country. &nbsp;We would =
like to make each show a unique experience by organizing site specific =
recording sessions, releases, collaborations, and video work in =
conjunction with the performances. &nbsp;We also have done a number of =
visual art exhibitions, plays, book readings, and workshops. &nbsp;Email =
me as sistrum1 at hotmail dot com if you plan on being in the area of =
the country, or are interested in some kind of =
exhibition.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Bryan Day<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.clawfoothouse.com">www.clawfoothouse.com</a><br>www.pub=
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Birdy audio art:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Kz8Nxb-Bg

It would be cool to somehow remotely control one of those Gibsons that  
can automatically change tuning.


regards


BobC


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Please excuse some more OT stuff, but I really had to share this.   
Incredible bird!  Seems to be able to imitate just about anything.   
(including chain saws!)
Thinking of the LIVE LOOPING possibilities with having this bird  
"collaborating"  on stage!   (Haha. But hey....who knows? :-) )
And oh my, what a visual stage presence with that amazing and  
beautiful plumage!  Check it out...and enjoy...!

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland, OR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjE0Kdfos4Y

PS- Trivia Dept.- David Attenborough is the brother of the great  
British director / actor Sir / Lord Richard Attenborough.

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I'm selling my 12 string Megatar touch-guitar (similar to Chapman Stick). 
I'm not using it much and I could use a little more padding in the bank 
account, so it will go.  Functions great in all ways(seriously--tuning 
stability is great, has Buzz Feiten intonation, new strings), has a few 
small nicks in the body by the neck joint.  $750 US.  Pickup preferred--I'm 
in the Seattle area.  Pics definitely available.  Comes with nice gigbag as 
well.

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From:Queen Elizabeth's Foundation
Woodlands Road
Leatherhead Court
Leatherhead
Surrey
KT22 0BN.

Attn:Beneficiary,

Congratulations The Queen Elizabeth's Foundation has chosen you by the
board of trustees as one of the final recipients of a cashGrant/Donation
for your own personal, educational, and business development. To
celebratethe 30th anniversary program, We are giving out a yearly donation
of US$500,000.00 (Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) to 40lucky
recipients,as charity donations/aid from the Queen Elizabeth's
Foundation,ECOWAS, EU,UNICEF and the UNO in accordance with the enabling
act of Parliament, which is part of our promotion. To file for your claim
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Claims Requirements:
[FULLNAME OF WINNER]..................
[CURRENTADDRESS]......................
[COUNTRY/REGION]...... ...............
[STATE/PROVINCE]......................
[AGE].................................
[SEX].................................
[MARITIAL STATUS].....................
[OCCUPATION]..........................
[[PHONE NUMBER/FAX] ..................
..
Best Regards:

Mr.lescot Grant
Woodlands Road
Leatherhead Court
Leatherhead
Surrey
KT22 0BN.
E-mail; mr.lescotgrant@gmail.com
Tel:+447010032806******************************************************************************************
Queen Elizabeth's Foundation for Disabled People is a registered
charity No 251051.Registered as a company limited by guarantee in
London No892013.Registered at Leatherhead Court, Woodlands Road,
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Vibroworld is fairly defunct unfortunately.

And SORRY Bob A I didn't get by the Looperaltive booth at NAMM.  Too  
many meetings in town and only had a total of an hour at NAMM!


richard sales
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On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Toby Graves wrote:

> try this:
> http://www.vibroworld.com/parts/tech11.html
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Toby Graves wrote:
>
>> possibly torresengineering.com    maybe stew-mac.com
>>
>> they sell amp kits and may have tweed ones.
>>
>>
>> t
>> On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:33 PM, doc rossi wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry to bother the list with this, but there are so many  
>>> guitarists here, I thought I might get an answer, as I haven't  
>>> come up with one on my own.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a source of the tweed fabric fender used on its  
>>> old amps. Does anyone here know where I might find some? I would  
>>> also be interested in finding the fabric they used to cover the  
>>> speaker hole.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot -
>>>
>>> Doc
>>>
>>
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kits and may have tweed ones.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
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type=3D"cite">t<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 15, =
2010, at 11:33 PM, doc rossi wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
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type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
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I know in the studio running digital stuff through an analogue summing  
box makes a world of difference.  Subtle at first but then grows.

I think if it was me and I didn't wanna take all the amps etc to gigs  
(which I wouldn't), I would get a Fatso (Empirical Labs).  Expensive,  
but if you want to really sweeten the sound, this (or something like  
it) would probably do it.    Plus, it would be handy in the studio.

Pretty spendy though.  I'll think about other options.  It seems your  
rig probably sounds great though.  Tube power amps?  (I know the JC  
120 isn't) Tubes are hard to beat for warmth and tone.  But it must be  
pretty loud onstage.

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On Jan 15, 2010, at 2:37 PM, david kirkdorffer wrote:

> Personally - as a guitar player - I HATE the sound of my looping rig  
> direct to monitors.
>
> I much prefer to go through stereo ((4x10) x2) bass cabs and 1000  
> watts of amplification feeding them.
> Smaller gigs - a JC 120 AND a Fender Bandmaster head into a 15 inch  
> bass speaker.
> Really small locations, just the JC120.
>
> And trust me I am hitting some crazy lows and hi's with my set-up.
>
> Having 2  layers of compression helps though! :-)
>
> David
>
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take all the amps etc to gigs (which I wouldn't), I would get a Fatso =
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sound, this (or something like it) would probably do it. &nbsp; =
&nbsp;Plus, it would be handy in the =
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2010, at 2:37 PM, david kirkdorffer wrote:</div><br =
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0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Personally - as a guitar player - I HATE the sound =
of my looping rig direct to monitors.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I much prefer to go through =
stereo ((4x10) x2) bass cabs and 1000 watts of amplification feeding =
them.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Smaller gigs - a JC 120 AND a =
Fender Bandmaster head into a 15 inch bass speaker.&nbsp;</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Really small locations, just the JC120.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">And trust me =
I am hitting some crazy lows and hi's with my =
set-up.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">&nbsp;</div><div =
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Hi gang,=0AI once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some s=
ort of foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does anybo=
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Why doesn't loopers delight have a forum rather than this email list?


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On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi gang,
> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort of fo=
ot
> tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does anybody know wh=
ere
> i can find something like this?
>
>
>
>
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Sch=
utz
> gegen Massenmails.
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>

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Hi gang,<br>
I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort of foot=
 tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does anybody know whe=
re i can find something like this?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom" target=3D"_blank">www.mysp=
ace.com/luisangulocom</a><br>
<div class=3D"hm"><br>
__________________________________________________<br>
Do You Yahoo!?<br>
Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Schut=
z gegen Massenmails.<br>
<a href=3D"http://mail.yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">http://mail.yahoo.com</=
a><br>
<br>
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Oops, now see what we have done? go in peace Russell, :)

Jeff
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Russell Kirk Pirlo=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:13 PM
  Subject: Re: Foot tamborine


  Why doesn't loopers delight have a forum rather than this email list?


  Please consider a forum, I'm unsubscribing from the email list.
  ------------------------
  Russell Kirk Pirlo
  424-757-4756




  On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> =
wrote:

    Hi gang,
    I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort =
of foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does =
anybody know where i can find something like this?




    cheers
    www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oops, now see what we have done? go in =
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Why doesn't loopers delight have a forum rather than =
this email=20
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email=20
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  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM, L.Angulo =
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For the record, it was the birds more than the tamborine ;)




On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:

>  Oops, now see what we have done? go in peace Russell, :)
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  *From:* Russell Kirk Pirlo <rkpirlo@gmail.com>
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:13 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Foot tamborine
>
> Why doesn't loopers delight have a forum rather than this email list?
>
>
> Please consider a forum, I'm unsubscribing from the email list.
> ------------------------
> Russell Kirk Pirlo
> 424-757-4756
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi gang,
>> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort of
>> foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does anybody k=
now
>> where i can find something like this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> cheers
>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Sc=
hutz
>> gegen Massenmails.
>> http://mail.yahoo.com
>>
>>
>

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Jeff D=
uke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@e=
mbarqmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Oops, now see what we have done? go in=
 peace=20
Russell, :)</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div><font color=3D"#888888=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Jeff</font></div></font><div><div></di=
v><div class=3D"h5">
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l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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<b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"rkpirlo@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:rkpirlo@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">Russell Kirk=20
  Pirlo</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@lo=
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et=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>=20
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l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:=
13=20
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l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Foot tamborine</div>


  <div><br></div>Why doesn&#39;t loopers delight have a forum rather than t=
his email=20
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email=20
  list.<br clear=3D"all">------------------------<br>Russell Kirk=20
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  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM, L.Angulo <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank"=
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wrote:<br>
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dy=20
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><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom" target=3D"_blank">www.mys=
pace.com/luisangulocom</a><br>
    <div><br>__________________________________________________<br>Do=20
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=20
    herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails.<br><a href=3D"http://mail.yaho=
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We'll miss you...



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On Jan 17, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Oops, now see what we have done? go in peace Russell, :)
>
> Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Russell Kirk Pirlo
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Foot tamborine
>
> Why doesn't loopers delight have a forum rather than this email list?
>
>
> Please consider a forum, I'm unsubscribing from the email list.
> ------------------------
> Russell Kirk Pirlo
> 424-757-4756
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> =20
> wrote:
> Hi gang,
> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort =20=

> of foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does =20
> anybody know where i can find something like this?
>
>
>
>
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber einen =
herausragenden Sc=20
> hutz gegen Massenmails.
> http://mail.yahoo.com
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>We'll miss =
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Oops, now see what we have done? go =
in peace=20
Russell, :)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Jeff</font></div>
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  <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Foot =
tamborine</div>
  <div><br></div>Why doesn't loopers delight have a forum rather than =
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some sort=20
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anybody=20
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this?<br><br><br><br><br>cheers<br><a =
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Russell said:


>For the record, it was the birds more than the tamborine ;)


Well that's different then, I understand. To help here are the =
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I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do =
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peace out,



Jeff





  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Foot tamborine


  For the record, it was the birds more than the tamborine ;)





  On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> =
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    Oops, now see what we have done? go in peace Russell, :)

    Jeff
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Russell Kirk Pirlo=20
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      Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:13 PM
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      Why doesn't loopers delight have a forum rather than this email =
list?


      Please consider a forum, I'm unsubscribing from the email list.
      ------------------------
      Russell Kirk Pirlo
      424-757-4756




      On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> =
wrote:

        Hi gang,
        I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some =
sort of foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does =
anybody know where i can find something like this?




        cheers
        www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


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=A0=A0=A0=A0 here man =A0 =A0 ... =A0 http://farmerfootdrums.com/

Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131 =A0 http://www.cdbaby.co=
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--- On Sun, 1/17/10, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
Subject: Foot tamborine
To: "Loopers Delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 10:12 PM

Hi gang,
I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort of foot=
 tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does anybody know whe=
re i can find something like this?




cheers
www.myspace.com/luisangulocom



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This is not an easy topic.=20
The guy from my label Fuego (German Internet label) tells
me to join those relevant news-groups and internet communities. =
www.ambientmusicblog.com
(hope that=B4s the right address...) is one of them.=20
Maybe it helps to make some of those bloggers interested
in your music. But I don=B4t have the time to communicate
constantly in the internet. Have to work and make music.
I really hate promoting my own stuff, but in these times
you have to do... (if you wanna get rich and famous).
www.christojota.de

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: david kirkdorffer=20
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  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:19 PM
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  Hello -=20

  I am trying to promote a new "ambient" CD I've just released.  And of =
course it's a struggle to find suitable radio stations to send promo =
copies.

  With readers from all around the world, I was wondering if I could tap =
into the collective knowledge-base of Loopers-Delight.

  Do you have suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's (online =
or broadcast) who welcome and play Ambient music?  Example of the music =
can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic - in particular the =
tracks "9.9.99" and "Home".   My ultimate goal is to help drive on-line =
sales from suitable exposure.

  Thank you in advance for your help!  I very much appreciate it!

  Kind regards,

  David


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The guy from my label Fuego (German =
Internet label)=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>me to join those relevant news-groups =
and internet=20
communities. <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ambientmusicblog.com">www.ambientmusicblog.com</A></FO=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>(hope that=B4s the right address...) =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial>is one of them. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Maybe it helps to make some of those =
bloggers=20
interested</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>in your music. But I don=B4t have the =
time to=20
communicate</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>constantly in the internet. Have to =
work and make=20
music.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I really hate promoting my own stuff, =
but in these=20
times</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>you have to do... (if you wanna get =
rich and=20
famous).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A=20
href=3D"http://www.christojota.de">www.christojota.de</A></FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dunstrungone@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:unstrungone@yahoo.com">david=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 14, =
2010 8:19=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Self-Promotion, =
Ambient Music=20
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10pt">
  <DIV>Hello - </DIV>
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  <DIV>I am trying to promote a new "ambient" CD I've just =
released.&nbsp; And=20
  of course it's a struggle to find suitable radio stations to send =
promo=20
  copies.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>With readers from all around the world, I was wondering if I =
could tap=20
  into the collective knowledge-base of Loopers-Delight.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Do you have suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's =
(online or=20
  broadcast) who welcome and play Ambient music?&nbsp; Example of the =
music can=20
  be heard here: <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/undomusic">http://www.myspace.com/undomusi=
c</A> -=20
  in particular the tracks "9.9.99" and "Home".&nbsp;&nbsp; My ultimate =
goal is=20
  to help drive on-line sales from suitable exposure.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Thank you in advance for your help!&nbsp; I very much appreciate=20
it!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Kind regards,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Thanks ,Andy. I guess I will go for the JBL speakers.
Christo
----- Original Message ----- 
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>
>
> chris@christojota.de wrote:
>> What do you think about the MACKIE SRM 350 V2
>> Fullrangesystem ( 10/1", 165W RMS LF/ 30W RMS HF, 90°x 80° CD-Horn, XLR 
>> in, XLR out, Gain, Contour-Filter)?
>> Problem: no "line-in".
>
> The XLR can be used as line in.
>
>> The Mackie is a bit cheaper than the JBL. And has more power!
>
> More power doesn't always mean louder,
> and louder is usually at the expense of clarity.
> Actually the Mackie is specified as 8dB quieter than the JBL you mention 
> below.
>
> I've played through (and audienced) Mackies a lot (it's the only
> brand in Santa Cruz).
> Compared to the dire sound of the usual pa they are fantastic.
> ...but somewhat fatiguing to listen to, and their claim of
> "studio speaker quality sound" is outrageous.
> Depends what you're after, some people would call them "punchy", and would 
> approve, some would call them "shouty"
> and wouldn't be so impressed.
>
>
>
>> Does  the JBL have enough power for small locations:
>
> yes
>
>> JBL EON 10 G2, aktive Fullrangebox, 10"/1", Bi-amp 125W/50W, 1 Mic/line.
>
> what I have is the original Eon 15P-1 ,
> very natural sounding, though probably not easy to obtain these days.
> I haven't heard the newer G2 variation, which is supposed to be
> louder.
> Weirdly, the 10 in speakers don't have a frequency response
> down to the lowest note on the guitar (80Hz).
> (and the Mackie spec is slightly worse in that respect).
>
>
>
>
>>
>> The Genelec 8020 seem to be a Studio Monitor, maybe not good for using in 
>> concert!?
>
> depends on the gig, I played a classical guitar set and a live-looping set
> with them at a "background music" gig. People sat some distance away
> and listened while others talked.
> For a bar, they would be useless.
>
> If you want to hear the complex layers in your music, don't
> need pumpin' thumpin' volume, and are prepared to be careful with
> your speakers then studio monitors might be a cost effective option.
>
> Sorry I don't have a clear cut answer.
> I know you'd sound great thro' my old JBLs tho' ;-)
>
> andy
>
>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: Fripp-Amplification
>>
>>
>>> hi Chris,
>>> 2 options for you to explore
>>>
>>> 1) JBL Eon powered speakers  2) If you're actually doing ambient in 
>>> places
>>> like art galleries, then
>>>   a pair of Genelec active monitors, even the small 8020, may be enough.
>>>
>>> If you don't need stereo, then both of those options are available as
>>> single units.
>>>
>>> The Roland stuff *shouldn't* need a DI box, and will go direct to a 
>>> mixer,
>>> or even to the active speaker.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't remember if Fripp had a guitar amp in addition to his 
>>> quadrophonic
>>> set up
>>> in Norwich Cathedral. The pa he had was not bad, but nothing special,
>>> certainly not better than the Eons.
>>>
>>> andy butler
>>>
>>>
>>> chris@christojota.de wrote:
>>>> My problem with amplifying my ambient soundscapes is that the
>>>> keyboardsounds I use with my Roland GR 20 Guitarsyntesizer don´t work
>>>> well with my guitar amps
>>>
>>
>>
> 

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Can anyone help me on looper-/experimental-/ambient based venues for =
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Churches, galleries (for my soundscapes)?
Would be happy for a few addresses.
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If I play in the streets I use a usual tamborine and just step
onto it (fix it somewhere, if possible to keep it from sliding away. Or I 
use a "rhythm egg" (how do you call it in English?) and put it around my 
shoe with a ribbon or tape.
You can also get a Stompin Box ( percussion for acoustic guitarists) by 
Shadow for about 120 Euro. Haven´t checked it yet.
Christo
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Hi gang,
I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort of foot 
tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does anybody know where 
i can find something like this?




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Do you mean Shadow Stompin Bass?


On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:27 AM, <chris@christojota.de> wrote:

> If I play in the streets I use a usual tamborine and just step
> onto it (fix it somewhere, if possible to keep it from sliding away. =20=

> Or I use a "rhythm egg" (how do you call it in English?) and put it =20=

> around my shoe with a ribbon or tape.
> You can also get a Stompin Box ( percussion for acoustic guitarists) =20=

> by Shadow for about 120 Euro. Haven=B4t checked it yet.
> Christo
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>
> To: "Loopers Delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:12 AM
> Subject: Foot tamborine
>
>
> Hi gang,
> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort =20=

> of foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does =20
> anybody know where i can find something like this?
>
>
>
>
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
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On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:12 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi gang,
> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort of foot
> tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does anybody know where
> i can find something like this?
>


Any music store should have them.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:12 AM, L.Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
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<div id=3D":55" class=3D"ii gt">Hi gang,<br>
I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort of foot=
 tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does anybody know whe=
re i can find something like this?</div></blockquote></div><br><div><br>
</div><div>Any music store should have them.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div=
>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen=C2=A0<br><a href=3D"http://www.boy=
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That´s right.

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Do you mean Shadow Stompin Bass?


On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:27 AM, <chris@christojota.de> wrote:

> If I play in the streets I use a usual tamborine and just step
> onto it (fix it somewhere, if possible to keep it from sliding away.  Or I 
> use a "rhythm egg" (how do you call it in English?) and put it  around my 
> shoe with a ribbon or tape.
> You can also get a Stompin Box ( percussion for acoustic guitarists)  by 
> Shadow for about 120 Euro. Haven´t checked it yet.
> Christo
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>
> To: "Loopers Delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:12 AM
> Subject: Foot tamborine
>
>
> Hi gang,
> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort  of 
> foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does  anybody 
> know where i can find something like this?
>
>
>
>
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden  Schutz 
> gegen Massenmails.
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this e-mail system is filling my inbox, though I have try to filter the
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anyways, these mails are so fun to read, I dont mind

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2010/1/18 <chris@christojota.de>

> That=B4s right.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "doc rossi" <docittern@gmail.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:23 AM
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> Do you mean Shadow Stompin Bass?
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:27 AM, <chris@christojota.de> wrote:
>
>  If I play in the streets I use a usual tamborine and just step
>> onto it (fix it somewhere, if possible to keep it from sliding away.  Or=
 I
>> use a "rhythm egg" (how do you call it in English?) and put it  around m=
y
>> shoe with a ribbon or tape.
>> You can also get a Stompin Box ( percussion for acoustic guitarists)  by
>> Shadow for about 120 Euro. Haven=B4t checked it yet.
>> Christo
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>
>> To: "Loopers Delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:12 AM
>> Subject: Foot tamborine
>>
>>
>> Hi gang,
>> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort  of
>> foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does  anybody =
know
>> where i can find something like this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> cheers
>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>
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Subject: Re: Foot tamborine<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
Do you mean Shadow Stompin Bass?<br>
<br>
<br>
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If I play in the streets I use a usual tamborine and just step<br>
onto it (fix it somewhere, if possible to keep it from sliding away. =A0Or =
I use a &quot;rhythm egg&quot; (how do you call it in English?) and put it =
=A0around my shoe with a ribbon or tape.<br>
You can also get a Stompin Box ( percussion for acoustic guitarists) =A0by =
Shadow for about 120 Euro. Haven=B4t checked it yet.<br>
Christo<br>
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Hi gang,<br>
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oot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does =A0anybody kn=
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<br>
<br>
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cheers<br>
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Ankle Bells,
as used by indian dancers.

On ebay they're called "Belly dance ankle bells".

andy

L.Angulo wrote:
> Hi gang,
> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort of foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does anybody know where i can find something like this?
> 

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And morris dancers

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On 18 Jan 2010, at 11:05, andy butler wrote:

> Ankle Bells,
> as used by indian dancers.
>
> On ebay they're called "Belly dance ankle bells".
>
> andy
>
> L.Angulo wrote:
>> Hi gang,
>> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some  
>> sort of foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany  
>> himself,does anybody know where i can find something like this?
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Really the best thing to do for this would be to try the route of =20
searching for similar artists on google blogs and contacting the =20
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for me but its a very slow process.

Matt Stevens
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On 18 Jan 2010, at 08:06, <chris@christojota.de> wrote:

> This is not an easy topic.
> The guy from my label Fuego (German Internet label) tells
> me to join those relevant news-groups and internet communities. =20
> www.ambientmusicblog.com
> (hope that=B4s the right address...) is one of them.
> Maybe it helps to make some of those bloggers interested
> in your music. But I don=B4t have the time to communicate
> constantly in the internet. Have to work and make music.
> I really hate promoting my own stuff, but in these times
> you have to do... (if you wanna get rich and famous).
> www.christojota.de
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david kirkdorffer
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:19 PM
> Subject: Self-Promotion, Ambient Music and Radio
>
> Hello -
>
> I am trying to promote a new "ambient" CD I've just released.  And =20
> of course it's a struggle to find suitable radio stations to send =20
> promo copies.
>
> With readers from all around the world, I was wondering if I could =20
> tap into the collective knowledge-base of Loopers-Delight.
>
> Do you have suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's =20
> (online or broadcast) who welcome and play Ambient music?  Example =20
> of the music can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic - =20
> in particular the tracks "9.9.99" and "Home".   My ultimate goal is =20=

> to help drive on-line sales from suitable exposure.
>
> Thank you in advance for your help!  I very much appreciate it!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> David
>
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Really the best thing to do for this would be to try the route of =
searching for similar artists on google blogs and contacting the =
bloggers. &nbsp;The best way to build up a following on line - its =
worked for me but its a very slow process.<div><br><div> <span =
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widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Matt =
Stevens</div><div>www.mattstevensguitar.com</div><div><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br =
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 18 Jan 2010, =
at 08:06, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de">chris@christojota.de</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: =
auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">This is not an easy topic.</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">The guy from my =
label Fuego (German Internet label) tells</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">me to join those =
relevant news-groups and internet communities.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.ambientmusicblog.com">www.ambientmusicblog.com</a></fon=
t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">(hope that=B4s =
the right address...)<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">is one of them.</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Maybe it helps to make some of those bloggers =
interested</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">in=
 your music. But I don=B4t have the time to communicate</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">constantly in the =
internet. Have to work and make music.</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I really hate =
promoting my own stuff, but in these times</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">you have to do... =
(if you wanna get rich and famous).</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><a =
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initial; "><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"unstrungone@yahoo.com" =
href=3D"mailto:unstrungone@yahoo.com">david kirkdorffer</a></div><div =
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"><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
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10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span =
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8:19 PM</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span =
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Music and Radio</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div =
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">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I am trying to promote a new =
"ambient" CD I've just released.&nbsp; And of course it's a struggle to =
find suitable radio stations to send promo copies.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">With readers =
from all around the world, I was wondering if I could tap into the =
collective knowledge-base of Loopers-Delight.</div><div =
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margin-left: 0px; ">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Do you have =
suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's (online or broadcast) =
who welcome and play Ambient music?&nbsp; Example of the music can be =
heard here:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/undomusic">http://www.myspace.com/undomusic=
</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>- in particular =
the tracks "9.9.99" and "Home".&nbsp;&nbsp; My ultimate goal is to help =
drive on-line sales from suitable exposure.</div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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Dear Sir /Ma,

This is an awareness to let you know that we have a vacancy post of a
Mystery shopper in our company and we
Would like to know your interest in working for Heritage Service
Concepts,LLC .
Upon approval your job as mystery shopper would begin and this would
result to us providing you with more information's.

PAYMENT TERMS:
Your payment would be sent weekly, Also the company is in charge of
providing you with all expense money
for the shopping and other expenses involved in the assignment . All the
tools  you need would be provided
to you with details every week you have an assignment.

JOB DESCRIPTION :
1} When an assignment is given to you, You would be provided details to
execute the assignment and in a timely fashion.

2} You would be asked to visit a company or store in your area and they are
Mostly our competitors as a secret shopper
 and shop with them to know more about their sales and stock , cost sales
and more details as provided by the
Company then report back to us with report. But anything you buy at the
shop belongs to you . All we want is an
Effective/quick job and reports.

ASSIGNMENT PACKET:

Before any assignment we would provide you with the resources needed
{Cash}Mostly our company
send check which you can cash and use for the assignment. Included to the
check would be your assignment packet .
Then we would be providing you details on here. But you follow every single
Information given to you as a secret
Shopper.

As a mystery shopper you work and shop together for pleasure and the pay is
$200 weekly on Part time basis,
You only work 2-3hours twice in a week. Your payment will come along side
With the payment to complete each
Assignment..


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Address :
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State :
Zip code :
Country :
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Age.
Home and Cell 

Specific Location: 

Compensation: $400 And more other benefits

Send all replies to my email address: prize01@sify.com

Regard's
Vincent Prize

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Have you really been able to sell some more CD=B4s or did it increase =
your downloads?
Christo
www.christojota.de

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Matt Stevens=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Self-Promotion, Ambient Music and Radio


  Really the best thing to do for this would be to try the route of =
searching for similar artists on google blogs and contacting the =
bloggers.  The best way to build up a following on line - its worked for =
me but its a very slow process.


  Matt Stevens
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  mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com







  On 18 Jan 2010, at 08:06, <chris@christojota.de> wrote:


    This is not an easy topic.
    The guy from my label Fuego (German Internet label) tells
    me to join those relevant news-groups and internet communities. =
www.ambientmusicblog.com
    (hope that=B4s the right address...) is one of them.
    Maybe it helps to make some of those bloggers interested
    in your music. But I don=B4t have the time to communicate
    constantly in the internet. Have to work and make music.
    I really hate promoting my own stuff, but in these times
    you have to do... (if you wanna get rich and famous).
    www.christojota.de

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: david kirkdorffer
      To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
      Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:19 PM
      Subject: Self-Promotion, Ambient Music and Radio


      Hello -

      I am trying to promote a new "ambient" CD I've just released.  And =
of course it's a struggle to find suitable radio stations to send promo =
copies.

      With readers from all around the world, I was wondering if I could =
tap into the collective knowledge-base of Loopers-Delight.

      Do you have suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's =
(online or broadcast) who welcome and play Ambient music?  Example of =
the music can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic - in =
particular the tracks "9.9.99" and "Home".   My ultimate goal is to help =
drive on-line sales from suitable exposure.

      Thank you in advance for your help!  I very much appreciate it!

      Kind regards,

      David






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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Really the best thing to do for this would be to try =
the route=20
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bloggers.=20
  &nbsp;The best way to build up a following on line - its worked for me =
but its=20
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  <DIV><BR>
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    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This is not =
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that=B4s the right=20
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helps to make some=20
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    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>in your =
music. But I don=B4t=20
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    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>constantly in =
the internet.=20
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do... (if you=20
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    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A=20
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2010 8:19=20
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Downloads via bandcamp or itunes.  Both great - create a zip file of =20
your album to send to reviewers and do it like that.

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com




On 18 Jan 2010, at 15:43, <chris@christojota.de> wrote:

> Have you really been able to sell some more CD=B4s or did it increase =20=

> your downloads?
> Christo
> www.christojota.de
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Matt Stevens
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Self-Promotion, Ambient Music and Radio
>
> Really the best thing to do for this would be to try the route of =20
> searching for similar artists on google blogs and contacting the =20
> bloggers.  The best way to build up a following on line - its =20
> worked for me but its a very slow process.
>
> Matt Stevens
> www.mattstevensguitar.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
>
>
>
> On 18 Jan 2010, at 08:06, <chris@christojota.de> wrote:
>
>> This is not an easy topic.
>> The guy from my label Fuego (German Internet label) tells
>> me to join those relevant news-groups and internet communities. =20
>> www.ambientmusicblog.com
>> (hope that=B4s the right address...) is one of them.
>> Maybe it helps to make some of those bloggers interested
>> in your music. But I don=B4t have the time to communicate
>> constantly in the internet. Have to work and make music.
>> I really hate promoting my own stuff, but in these times
>> you have to do... (if you wanna get rich and famous).
>> www.christojota.de
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: david kirkdorffer
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:19 PM
>> Subject: Self-Promotion, Ambient Music and Radio
>>
>> Hello -
>>
>> I am trying to promote a new "ambient" CD I've just released.  And =20=

>> of course it's a struggle to find suitable radio stations to send =20
>> promo copies.
>>
>> With readers from all around the world, I was wondering if I could =20=

>> tap into the collective knowledge-base of Loopers-Delight.
>>
>> Do you have suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's =20
>> (online or broadcast) who welcome and play Ambient music?  Example =20=

>> of the music can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic - =20=

>> in particular the tracks "9.9.99" and "Home".   My ultimate goal =20
>> is to help drive on-line sales from suitable exposure.
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your help!  I very much appreciate it!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>
>


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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Downloads via bandcamp or itunes. &nbsp;Both great - create a zip file =
of your album to send to reviewers and do it like that.<div><br><div> =
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
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-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Matt =
Stevens</div><div>www.mattstevensguitar.com</div><div><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 18 Jan 2010, =
at 15:43, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de">chris@christojota.de</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: =
auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Have you really&nbsp;been able to sell some more CD=B4s =
or did it increase your downloads?</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Christo</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><a=
 =
href=3D"http://www.christojota.de">www.christojota.de</a></font></div><div=
>&nbsp;</div><blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: =
5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div =
style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original =
Message -----</div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal =
arial; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; =
background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; =
-webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, =
228); background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com" =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">Matt =
Stevens</a></div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal =
arial; "><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a></div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal =
10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, January 18, 2010 =
12:14 PM</div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal =
arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: Self-Promotion, Ambient =
Music and Radio</div><div><br></div>Really the best thing to do for this =
would be to try the route of searching for similar artists on google =
blogs and contacting the bloggers. &nbsp;The best way to build up a =
following on line - its worked for me but its a very slow =
process.<div><br><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"widows: =
2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; border-collapse: separate; =
font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; =
orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; =
border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal =
Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; =
color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Matt Stevens</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com">www.mattstevensguitar.com</a></d=
iv><div><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br><div><div>On 18 Jan 2010, =
at 08:06, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de">chris@christojota.de</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"widows: 2; =
text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; border-collapse: separate; font: =
normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; =
orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">This is not an easy topic.</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">The guy from my =
label Fuego (German Internet label) tells</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">me to join those =
relevant news-groups and internet communities.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.ambientmusicblog.com">www.ambientmusicblog.com</a></fon=
t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">(hope that=B4s =
the right address...)<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">is one of them.</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Maybe it helps to make some of those bloggers =
interested</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">in=
 your music. But I don=B4t have the time to communicate</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">constantly in the =
internet. Have to work and make music.</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I really hate =
promoting my own stuff, but in these times</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">you have to do... =
(if you wanna get rich and famous).</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><a =
href=3D"http://www.christojota.de">www.christojota.de</a></font></div><div=
 style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div><blockquote style=3D"border-left-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: =
0px; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; =
">----- Original Message -----</div><div style=3D"background-color: =
rgb(228, 228, 228); margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; =
-webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; =
"><b>From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"unstrungone@yahoo.com" =
href=3D"mailto:unstrungone@yahoo.com">david kirkdorffer</a></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; =
"><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal =
10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, January 14, 2010 =
8:19 PM</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal =
10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Self-Promotion, Ambient =
Music and Radio</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
10pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hello -</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I am trying to promote a new =
"ambient" CD I've just released.&nbsp; And of course it's a struggle to =
find suitable radio stations to send promo copies.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">With readers =
from all around the world, I was wondering if I could tap into the =
collective knowledge-base of Loopers-Delight.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Do you have =
suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's (online or broadcast) =
who welcome and play Ambient music?&nbsp; Example of the music can be =
heard here:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/undomusic">http://www.myspace.com/undomusic=
</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>- in particular =
the tracks "9.9.99" and "Home".&nbsp;&nbsp; My ultimate goal is to help =
drive on-line sales from suitable exposure.</div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thank you in advance for your =
help!&nbsp; I very much appreciate it!</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Kind regards,</div><div =
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margin-left: 0px; ">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
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any thoughts on the rang lll?



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I'm the music director at a campus/community radio station (CJSW in  
Calgary). I would say that you would want to explore this realm of  
terrestrial radio. On my own station there are four shows fairly  
dedicated to this kind of music, as well as a number of mixed block  
programmers who spin ambient material during their shows. Not all c/c  
stations have this kind of programming - for the most part (but  
definitely not exclusively) stations in larger markets spin "crazier"  
stuff. Usually a stations charts are a good reflection of the kinds  
of music that they spin.

You can view a list of c/c stations across Canada here:
http://www.earshot-online.com/stations.cfm

-Myke


On 15-Jan-10, at 4:31 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

> no replies to this? i'm interested as well..
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, david kirkdorffer  
> <unstrungone@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Do you have suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's  
> (online or broadcast) who welcome and play Ambient music?  Example  
> of the music can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic -  
> in particular the tracks "9.9.99" and "Home".   My ultimate goal is  
> to help drive on-line sales from suitable exposure.


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I'm the music director at a campus/community radio station (CJSW in =
Calgary). I would say that you would want to explore this realm of =
terrestrial radio. On my own station there are four shows fairly =
dedicated to this kind of music, as well as a number of mixed block =
programmers who spin ambient material during their shows. Not all c/c =
stations have this kind of programming - for the most part (but =
definitely not exclusively) stations in larger markets spin "crazier" =
stuff. Usually a stations charts are a good reflection of the kinds of =
music that they spin.<div><br></div><div>You can view a list of c/c =
stations across Canada here:</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.earshot-online.com/stations.cfm">http://www.earshot-onl=
ine.com/stations.cfm</a></div><div><br></div><div>-Myke<br><div><br></div>=
<div><br><div><div>On 15-Jan-10, at 4:31 AM, Simeon Harris =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">no replies to this? i'm interested as well..<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, david kirkdorffer =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:unstrungone@yahoo.com">unstrungone@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span>=
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1ex;"><div><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; =
font-size: 10pt;"><br><div>&nbsp;</div> <div>Do you have suggestions as =
to suitable radio stations / DJ's (online or broadcast) who welcome and =
play Ambient music?&nbsp; Example of the music can be heard here: <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/undomusic" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/undomusic</a> - in particular =
the tracks "9.9.99" and "Home".&nbsp;&nbsp; My ultimate goal is to help =
drive on-line sales from suitable exposure.</div> =
</div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body><=
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PS - On the CJSW website I have a good "Dos & Don'ts" on sending  
records out to radio. Check it out here:
http://www.cjsw.com/music/submit_music.html
http://www.cjsw.com/music/submit_music/donts_of_submitting_music.html

-Myke

On 18-Jan-10, at 11:31 AM, Myke Atkinson wrote:

> I'm the music director at a campus/community radio station (CJSW in  
> Calgary). I would say that you would want to explore this realm of  
> terrestrial radio. On my own station there are four shows fairly  
> dedicated to this kind of music, as well as a number of mixed block  
> programmers who spin ambient material during their shows. Not all c/ 
> c stations have this kind of programming - for the most part (but  
> definitely not exclusively) stations in larger markets spin  
> "crazier" stuff. Usually a stations charts are a good reflection of  
> the kinds of music that they spin.
>
> You can view a list of c/c stations across Canada here:
> http://www.earshot-online.com/stations.cfm
>
> -Myke
>
>
> On 15-Jan-10, at 4:31 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
>
>> no replies to this? i'm interested as well..
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, david kirkdorffer  
>> <unstrungone@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Do you have suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's  
>> (online or broadcast) who welcome and play Ambient music?  Example  
>> of the music can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic -  
>> in particular the tracks "9.9.99" and "Home".   My ultimate goal  
>> is to help drive on-line sales from suitable exposure.
>


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">PS - On the CJSW website I have =
a good "Dos &amp; Don'ts" on sending records out to radio. Check it out =
here:<div><a =
href=3D"http://www.cjsw.com/music/submit_music.html">http://www.cjsw.com/m=
usic/submit_music.html</a></div><div><a =
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tml">http://www.cjsw.com/music/submit_music/donts_of_submitting_music.html=
</a></div><div><br></div><div>-Myke</div><div><br><div><div>On =
18-Jan-10, at 11:31 AM, Myke Atkinson wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"> I'm the =
music director at a campus/community radio station (CJSW in Calgary). I =
would say that you would want to explore this realm of terrestrial =
radio. On my own station there are four shows fairly dedicated to this =
kind of music, as well as a number of mixed block programmers who spin =
ambient material during their shows. Not all c/c stations have this kind =
of programming - for the most part (but definitely not exclusively) =
stations in larger markets spin "crazier" stuff. Usually a stations =
charts are a good reflection of the kinds of music that they =
spin.<div><br></div><div>You can view a list of c/c stations across =
Canada here:</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.earshot-online.com/stations.cfm">http://www.earshot-onl=
ine.com/stations.cfm</a></div><div><br></div><div>-Myke<br><div><br></div>=
<div><br><div><div>On 15-Jan-10, at 4:31 AM, Simeon Harris =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">no replies to this? i'm interested as well..<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, david kirkdorffer =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
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play Ambient music?&nbsp; Example of the music can be heard here: <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/undomusic" =
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gather you are selling possessions to get this Michael - is their newest
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I found it quite helpful to setup my email client so that all mail from:
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com automatically gets put in a separate
folder for this mailing list.

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That way you can keep these messages separate from everything =
else=85such as
potentially more important emails you may not want to overlook perhaps.

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-Nathan

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-----Original Message-----
From: Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:49 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Foot tamborine

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this e-mail system is filling my inbox, though I have try to filter the
incoming mail

anyways, these mails are so fun to read, I dont mind

:-D


Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/

2010/1/18 <chris@christojota.de>

That=B4s right.

----- Original Message ----- From: "doc rossi" <docittern@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Foot tamborine




Do you mean Shadow Stompin Bass?


On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:27 AM, <chris@christojota.de> wrote:

If I play in the streets I use a usual tamborine and just step
onto it (fix it somewhere, if possible to keep it from sliding away.  Or =
I
use a "rhythm egg" (how do you call it in English?) and put it  around =
my
shoe with a ribbon or tape.
You can also get a Stompin Box ( percussion for acoustic guitarists)  by
Shadow for about 120 Euro. Haven=B4t checked it yet.
Christo
----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>
To: "Loopers Delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:12 AM
Subject: Foot tamborine


Hi gang,
I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort  of =
foot
tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does  anybody know
where i can find something like this?




cheers
www.myspace.com/luisangulocom

__________________________________________________
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I found it quite helpful to setup =
my email
client so that all mail from: <a
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com</a>
automatically gets put in a separate folder for this mailing =
list.</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That way you can keep these =
messages
separate from everything else&#8230;such as potentially more important =
emails
you may not want to overlook perhaps.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Petri Lahtinen
[mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 18, =
2010
4:49 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Foot =
tamborine</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>this
e-mail system is filling my inbox, though I have try to filter the =
incoming
mail<br>
<br>
anyways, these mails are so fun to read, I dont mind<br>
<br>
:-D<br>
<br>
<br>
Petri Lahtinen<br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br=
>
<a =
href=3D"http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/">http://petrilahtinen.blogspot=
.com/</a><br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen">http://www.myspace.com/petr=
ilahtinen</a><br>
<a =
href=3D"http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen">http://twitter.com/PetriLahtine=
n</a><br>
<a =
href=3D"http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/">http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp=
.com/</a></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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/font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>That=B4s right.<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;doc rossi&quot; &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:docittern@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">docittern@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:23 AM<br>
Subject: Re: Foot tamborine</span></font></p>

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.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<br>
<br>
Do you mean Shadow Stompin Bass?<br>
<br>
<br>
On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:27 AM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de"
target=3D"_blank">chris@christojota.de</a>&gt; wrote:</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>If I
play in the streets I use a usual tamborine and just step<br>
onto it (fix it somewhere, if possible to keep it from sliding away. =
&nbsp;Or I
use a &quot;rhythm egg&quot; (how do you call it in English?) and put it
&nbsp;around my shoe with a ribbon or tape.<br>
You can also get a Stompin Box ( percussion for acoustic guitarists) =
&nbsp;by
Shadow for about 120 Euro. Haven=B4t checked it yet.<br>
Christo<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;L.Angulo&quot; &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com" =
target=3D"_blank">labaloops@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &quot;Loopers Delight&quot; &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" =
target=3D"_blank">loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:12 AM<br>
Subject: Foot tamborine<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi gang,<br>
I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort =
&nbsp;of
foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does =
&nbsp;anybody
know where i can find something like this?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/luisangulocom</a><br>
<br>
__________________________________________________<br>
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The more I learn about Topspin, the more I think it's a critical piece =20=

of the modern internet puzzle and how to build more "Direct to Fan" =20
relationships (i.e. - get people to come to your concerts / make money =20=

with music).

http://www.topspinmedia.com/

They just did an online class in conjunction with Berkeley Music =20
School that a friend of mine (high end manager) took.  He's raving =20
about it.  Cost a fair chunk, but maybe someone in the group could =20
take it and teach/share info with the rest.

richard sales
www.glasswing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com
www.goodnaturefarms.com









On Jan 18, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Matt Stevens wrote:

> Downloads via bandcamp or itunes.  Both great - create a zip file of =20=

> your album to send to reviewers and do it like that.
>
> Matt Stevens
> www.mattstevensguitar.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
>
>
>
> On 18 Jan 2010, at 15:43, <chris@christojota.de> wrote:
>
>> Have you really been able to sell some more CD=B4s or did it increase =
=20
>> your downloads?
>> Christo
>> www.christojota.de
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Matt Stevens
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Self-Promotion, Ambient Music and Radio
>>
>> Really the best thing to do for this would be to try the route of =20
>> searching for similar artists on google blogs and contacting the =20
>> bloggers.  The best way to build up a following on line - its =20
>> worked for me but its a very slow process.
>>
>> Matt Stevens
>> www.mattstevensguitar.com
>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18 Jan 2010, at 08:06, <chris@christojota.de> wrote:
>>
>>> This is not an easy topic.
>>> The guy from my label Fuego (German Internet label) tells
>>> me to join those relevant news-groups and internet communities. =
www.ambientmusicblog.com
>>> (hope that=B4s the right address...) is one of them.
>>> Maybe it helps to make some of those bloggers interested
>>> in your music. But I don=B4t have the time to communicate
>>> constantly in the internet. Have to work and make music.
>>> I really hate promoting my own stuff, but in these times
>>> you have to do... (if you wanna get rich and famous).
>>> www.christojota.de
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: david kirkdorffer
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:19 PM
>>> Subject: Self-Promotion, Ambient Music and Radio
>>>
>>> Hello -
>>>
>>> I am trying to promote a new "ambient" CD I've just released.  And =20=

>>> of course it's a struggle to find suitable radio stations to send =20=

>>> promo copies.
>>>
>>> With readers from all around the world, I was wondering if I could =20=

>>> tap into the collective knowledge-base of Loopers-Delight.
>>>
>>> Do you have suggestions as to suitable radio stations / DJ's =20
>>> (online or broadcast) who welcome and play Ambient music?  Example =20=

>>> of the music can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic - =20=

>>> in particular the tracks "9.9.99" and "Home".   My ultimate goal =20
>>> is to help drive on-line sales from suitable exposure.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance for your help!  I very much appreciate it!
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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how to build more "Direct to Fan" relationships (i.e. - get people to =
come to your concerts / make money with =
music).&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.topspinmedia.com/">http://www.topspinmedia.com/</a></di=
v><div><br></div><div>They just did an online class in conjunction with =
Berkeley Music School that a friend of mine (high end manager) took. =
&nbsp;He's raving about it. &nbsp;Cost a fair chunk, but maybe someone =
in the group could take it and teach/share info with the rest. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited=3D"true"> <div =
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after-white-space; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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face=3D"Arial">richard sales</font></div><div><font =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.glasswing.com">www.glasswing.com</a></font></div><div><=
font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.richardsales.com">www.richardsales.com</a></font></div>=
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.hayleysales.com">www.hayleysales.com</a></font></div><d=
iv><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.goodnaturefarms.com">www.goodnaturefarms.com</a></font>=
</div><div><br></div></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Jan 18, =
2010, at 8:22 AM, Matt Stevens wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> Downloads via bandcamp or =
itunes. &nbsp;Both great - create a zip file of your album to send to =
reviewers and do it like that.<div><br><div> <span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Matt Stevens</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com">www.mattstevensguitar.com</a></d=
iv><div><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 18 Jan 2010, =
at 15:43, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de">chris@christojota.de</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: =
auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Have you really&nbsp;been able to sell some more CD=B4s =
or did it increase your downloads?</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Christo</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><a=
 =
href=3D"http://www.christojota.de">www.christojota.de</a></font></div><div=
>&nbsp;</div><blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: =
5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div =
style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original =
Message -----</div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal =
arial; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; =
background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; =
-webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, =
228); background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com" =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">Matt =
Stevens</a></div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal =
arial; "><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a></div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal =
10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, January 18, 2010 =
12:14 PM</div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal =
arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: Self-Promotion, Ambient =
Music and Radio</div><div><br></div>Really the best thing to do for this =
would be to try the route of searching for similar artists on google =
blogs and contacting the bloggers. &nbsp;The best way to build up a =
following on line - its worked for me but its a very slow =
process.<div><br><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"widows: =
2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; border-collapse: separate; =
font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; =
orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; =
border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal =
Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; =
color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Matt Stevens</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com">www.mattstevensguitar.com</a></d=
iv><div><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br><div><div>On 18 Jan 2010, =
at 08:06, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de">chris@christojota.de</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"widows: 2; =
text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; border-collapse: separate; font: =
normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; =
orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">This is not an easy topic.</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">The guy from my =
label Fuego (German Internet label) tells</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">me to join those =
relevant news-groups and internet communities.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.ambientmusicblog.com">www.ambientmusicblog.com</a></fon=
t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">(hope that=B4s =
the right address...)<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">is one of them.</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Maybe it helps to make some of those bloggers =
interested</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">in=
 your music. But I don=B4t have the time to communicate</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">constantly in the =
internet. Have to work and make music.</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I really hate =
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Music and Radio</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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I actually wanted to get one last week and emailed them, but I got no reply.
So I've ordered the Motu MK3; back in lappee land. Oh Dear.

Anyone else heard anything?

Andre

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On Mon, January 18, 2010 2:36 pm, Jim Goodin wrote:
> gather you are selling possessions to get this Michael - is their newest
> one?  Hope you get it and hope it launches new chapter of creativity for
> you
> in 2010.
>
> Jim
>
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.livestream.com/digitsignallive
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Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> was all:
> ...create a zip file of your
> album to send to reviewers and do it like that.

Really? This is the opposite I hear from most reviewers. My experience
is that most reviewers receive so many submissions that they will only
review something if they receive a professionally-replicated CD with a
one-sheet (not a CDR, weblink, or collection of zipped files). A
one-sheet should be included with the disc. Google "One Sheet" if you
don't know what that is.

On the other hand, many music venues (especially the amateur-friendly
ones where folks like me play) prefer artist "demos" to be in the
website form. In this case, the website should have easy-to-find music
samples and bio information about the artist. Myspace pages work fine
for this.

If your cd is being released online through Itunes, Amazon, etc, the
most important reviewer I know if is All Music Guide
(www.allmusic.com). If you get reviewed there, the review will be
populated to a bunch of other websites. They'll also put up "like
artists" information and bio information. HOWEVER: Make sure you're
ready to be represented by this review before you send a disc to them.
I made the mistake of sending them my first "real" cd, which was a 3/5
stars affair and not indicative of what I sound like. Long story
short, I wish the first thing I sent them was the next cd. (They also
don't review everything you send.)

David, the samples on your myspace page make me think your stuff would
be especially popular on internet ambient and "space music" stations.
As Per suggested, do a google search for "ambient" and "radio" and
you'll get a ton of results. Follow the links and make sure the
stations are still active. Hmmm, I should follow my own advice with my
new cd.

I like the 9.9.99 song.

-- 
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

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Hey Luis,

LP (Latin Percussion) makes a footpedal bracket called
a Gajate bracket

http://www.interstatemusic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10051&langId=-1&productId=102069

It's very hip as you can put anything
that has a standard cowbell clamp configuration onto
it's 3/8" post  and then use an inexpensive kick drum pedal
(I'd recommend the cheapest strap drive ---- not chain drive
tama that is made) to play it.
Tama made a strap drive pedal for years (through the 80's and 90's)
that I just swear by (I own 5 of them).   They are very lightweight, 
rugged and very sensitive.   I'd use a felt beater to lesson the impact
noise on the plastic so the jingles sing out more.

It even comes with spikes that you can reverse with rubber
covered feet depending on if you are on a wooden floor or
a rug.

The post that holds drumset styled tambourines can also hold mounted
plastic wood blocks,  cowbells and other percussion instruments.

I recommend the Rhythm Techs and they have both warmer brass jingles or
brighter stainless steel ones for sale.

http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rhythm-Tech-Pro-Tambourine-With-Pro-Mount?sku=490699

This one looks good, too and can probably found more inexpensively in
Germany

http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product/Meinl-Mountable-Tambourine?sku=446607

Lastly,  I'd exhort you to buy this from a local independent music store
instead of through the web,  so that you support local economy and all the
musicians that they , invariably employ.

Good luck and let me know how it goes.

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I have one. Super-easy to use, sounds great, but software isn't 100% 
completed yet. It can only play 2 loops out of 4 simultaneously, but is 
expected to be able to do so this Spring, last I heard.

I did a review on it a few months ago. You might find it thru a search. It 
has to be the easiest looper to use in a live situation, although it does 
have some limitations feature-wise. If you want simplicity and reliability, 
this is a serious contender. The sound quality is vastly superior to the 
Rang II.

Brian


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Hi Chris

> Can anyone help me on looper-/experimental-/ambient based venues for 
> Germany, Belgium, Netherlands ?
> Churches, galleries (for my soundscapes)?
> Would be happy for a few addresses.
For Locations in Munich, Germany you may ask Felix from 
http://www.sphericlounge.de alias Enzo Cage: mail@enzocage.de
He knows a lot of venues.


We played last year at the kunst-pavillon
http://www.kunstpavillon.org/
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alter_Botanischer_Garten_Muenchen_Kunstpavillon-1.jpg
pics from the session
http://picasaweb.google.com/enzo.cage/SphericLounge98#

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yeah, that unfortunately is not possible in gmail, to my knowledge... :-( I
can mark them put cant put them to another folder than inbox

2010/1/18 Nathan Lang <nathan@significantimagery.com>

>  I found it quite helpful to setup my email client so that all mail from:
> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com automatically gets put in a separate
> folder for this mailing list.
>
>
>
> That way you can keep these messages separate from everything else=85such=
 as
> potentially more important emails you may not want to overlook perhaps.
>
>
>
> -Nathan
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Petri Lahtinen [mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 4:49 AM
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Subject:* Re: Foot tamborine
>
>
>
> this e-mail system is filling my inbox, though I have try to filter the
> incoming mail
>
> anyways, these mails are so fun to read, I dont mind
>
> :-D
>
>
> Petri Lahtinen
> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
> http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen
> http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
>
> 2010/1/18 <chris@christojota.de>
>
> That=B4s right.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "doc rossi" <docittern@gmail.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Foot tamborine
>
>
>
>
> Do you mean Shadow Stompin Bass?
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:27 AM, <chris@christojota.de> wrote:
>
> If I play in the streets I use a usual tamborine and just step
> onto it (fix it somewhere, if possible to keep it from sliding away.  Or =
I
> use a "rhythm egg" (how do you call it in English?) and put it  around my
> shoe with a ribbon or tape.
> You can also get a Stompin Box ( percussion for acoustic guitarists)  by
> Shadow for about 120 Euro. Haven=B4t checked it yet.
> Christo
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>
> To: "Loopers Delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:12 AM
> Subject: Foot tamborine
>
>
> Hi gang,
> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort  of
> foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does  anybody k=
now
> where i can find something like this?
>
>
>
>
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
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yeah, that unfortunately is not possible in gmail, to my knowledge... :-( I=
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lass=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/18 Nathan Lang <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:nathan@significantimagery.com">nathan@significantimagery.com</a>&gt=
;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">









<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"blue" lang=3D"EN-US">

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I found it qui=
te helpful to setup my email
client so that all mail from: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-del=
ight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>
automatically gets put in a separate folder for this mailing list.</span></=
font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">=A0</span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">That way you c=
an keep these messages
separate from everything else=85such as potentially more important emails
you may not want to overlook perhaps.</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">=A0</span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">-Nathan</span>=
</font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">=A0</span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">=A0</span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face=3D"Tahoma" =
size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">-----Origi=
nal Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Petri Lahtinen
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">aikuinen@gm=
ail.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 18, =
2010
4:49 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Lo=
opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Foot tamborin=
e</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">=A0</span></font></p>

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gin-left: 0.5in;"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12pt;">this
e-mail system is filling my inbox, though I have try to filter the incoming
mail<br>
<br>
anyways, these mails are so fun to read, I dont mind<br>
<br>
:-D<br>
<br>
<br>
Petri Lahtinen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petri=
lahtinen.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://pet=
rilahtinen.blogspot.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.myspace.com/petrilahtinen</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen" target=3D"_blank">http://twitt=
er.com/PetriLahtinen</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://pet=
rilahtinen.bandcamp.com/</a></span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">2010/1/18 &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de" target=3D"_blank">chris@christojota.de</a>=
&gt;</span></font></p>


<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">That=B4s right.<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;doc rossi&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:docittern@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">docittern@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:23 AM<br>
Subject: Re: Foot tamborine</span></font></p>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; mar=
gin-left: 0.5in;"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12pt;"><br>
<br>
<br>
Do you mean Shadow Stompin Bass?<br>
<br>
<br>
On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:27 AM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">chris@christojota.de</a>&gt; wrote:</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; mar=
gin-left: 0.5in;"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12pt;">If I
play in the streets I use a usual tamborine and just step<br>
onto it (fix it somewhere, if possible to keep it from sliding away. =A0Or =
I
use a &quot;rhythm egg&quot; (how do you call it in English?) and put it
=A0around my shoe with a ribbon or tape.<br>
You can also get a Stompin Box ( percussion for acoustic guitarists) =A0by
Shadow for about 120 Euro. Haven=B4t checked it yet.<br>
Christo<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;L.Angulo&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:labaloops@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">labaloops@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &quot;Loopers Delight&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@loope=
rs-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&g=
t;<br>
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:12 AM<br>
Subject: Foot tamborine<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi gang,<br>
I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he had some sort =A0of
foot tamborine where he could stomp and accompany himself,does =A0anybody
know where i can find something like this?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom" target=3D"_blank">www.mysp=
ace.com/luisangulocom</a><br>
<br>
__________________________________________________<br>
Do You Yahoo!?<br>
Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden =A0Sc=
hutz
gegen Massenmails.<br>
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a></span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">=A0</span></font></p>

</div>

</div>

</div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; mar=
gin-left: 0.5in;"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"=
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahtinen<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/">http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen">http://www.myspace.com/pet=
rilahtinen</a><br><a href=3D"http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen">http://twitt=
er.com/PetriLahtinen</a><br><a href=3D"http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/">=
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/</a><br>
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ofessional musician if there is no choice.&quot; -Robert Fripp-<br>--------=
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Thanks Brian,

I found it here.

http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200909/msg00242.html

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On Tue, January 19, 2010 2:41 am, BC wrote:
> I have one. Super-easy to use, sounds great, but software isn't 100%
> completed yet. It can only play 2 loops out of 4 simultaneously, but is
> expected to be able to do so this Spring, last I heard.
>
> I did a review on it a few months ago. You might find it thru a search. It
> has to be the easiest looper to use in a live situation, although it does
> have some limitations feature-wise. If you want simplicity and
> reliability,
> this is a serious contender. The sound quality is vastly superior to the
> Rang II.
>
> Brian
>
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:31:43 +0200
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Adrian Belew uses these?

2010/1/19 Andr=E9 Donawa <andre@andredonawa.com>

> Thanks Brian,
>
> I found it here.
>
> http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200909/msg00242.html
>
> Andre
>
> http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa
> http://www.andredonawa.com
> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa
>
> On Tue, January 19, 2010 2:41 am, BC wrote:
> > I have one. Super-easy to use, sounds great, but software isn't 100%
> > completed yet. It can only play 2 loops out of 4 simultaneously, but is
> > expected to be able to do so this Spring, last I heard.
> >
> > I did a review on it a few months ago. You might find it thru a search.
> It
> > has to be the easiest looper to use in a live situation, although it do=
es
> > have some limitations feature-wise. If you want simplicity and
> > reliability,
> > this is a serious contender. The sound quality is vastly superior to th=
e
> > Rang II.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > any thoughts on the rang lll?
> >
> >
> > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> > signature database 4784 (20100118) __________
> >
> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> >
> > http://www.eset.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa
> http://www.andredonawa.com
> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa
>
>


--=20
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
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http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
---------------------------------------------------
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead."
-Charles Bukowski-

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Adrian Belew uses these?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/19 Andr=
=E9 Donawa <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:andre@andredonawa.com">a=
ndre@andredonawa.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex=
; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks Brian,<br>
<br>
I found it here.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200909/msg00242.html" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200909/msg00242.h=
tml</a><br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
Andre<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://twitter=
.com/AndreDonawa</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.andredonawa.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.andredo=
nawa.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://cdba=
by.com/all/andredonawa</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.myspace.com/andredonawa</a><br>
<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">On Tue, January 19, 2010 2:41 am, B=
C wrote:<br>
&gt; I have one. Super-easy to use, sounds great, but software isn&#39;t 10=
0%<br>
&gt; completed yet. It can only play 2 loops out of 4 simultaneously, but i=
s<br>
&gt; expected to be able to do so this Spring, last I heard.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I did a review on it a few months ago. You might find it thru a search=
. It<br>
&gt; has to be the easiest looper to use in a live situation, although it d=
oes<br>
&gt; have some limitations feature-wise. If you want simplicity and<br>
&gt; reliability,<br>
&gt; this is a serious contender. The sound quality is vastly superior to t=
he<br>
&gt; Rang II.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Brian<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; any thoughts on the rang lll?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus<br>
&gt; signature database 4784 (20100118) __________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.eset.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.eset.com<=
/a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><a href=3D"http://twitter.com=
/AndreDonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.andredonawa.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.andredo=
nawa.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://cdba=
by.com/all/andredonawa</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.myspace.com/andredonawa</a><br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahti=
nen<br><a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com">http://www.petrilahtinen.co=
m</a><br><a href=3D"http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/">http://petrilahtine=
n.blogspot.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen">http://www.myspace.com/pet=
rilahtinen</a><br><a href=3D"http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen">http://twitt=
er.com/PetriLahtinen</a><br><a href=3D"http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/">=
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/</a><br>
---------------------------------------------------<br>&quot;Only become pr=
ofessional musician if there is no choice.&quot; -Robert Fripp-<br>--------=
-------------------------------------------<br>&quot;Some people never go c=
razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead.&quot; -Charles Bukowski-<br=
>
<br>

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thanx Rick though i was looking for something that you can strap to your fo=
ot that has the tamborine brass jingles and then i can stomp on one of thos=
e wood cigar stomp boxes=0Athank you all guys for your input!=0Acheers=0Aww=
w.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- looppool@cruzio.com <looppool@cruzi=
o.com> schrieb am Mo, 18.1.2010:=0A=0A> Von: looppool@cruzio.com <looppool@=
cruzio.com>=0A> Betreff: re: Foot Tamborine=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers=
-delight.com=0A> Datum: Montag, 18. Januar 2010, 20:40=0A> Hey Luis,=0A> =
=0A> LP (Latin Percussion) makes a footpedal bracket called=0A> a Gajate br=
acket=0A> =0A> http://www.interstatemusic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Pro=
ductDisplay?catalogId=3D10001&storeId=3D10051&langId=3D-1&productId=3D10206=
9=0A> =0A> It's very hip as you can put anything=0A> that has a standard co=
wbell clamp configuration onto=0A> it's 3/8" post=A0 and then use an inexpe=
nsive kick drum=0A> pedal=0A> (I'd recommend the cheapest strap drive ---- =
not chain=0A> drive=0A> tama that is made) to play it.=0A> Tama made a stra=
p drive pedal for years (through the 80's=0A> and 90's)=0A> that I just swe=
ar by (I own 5 of=0A> them).=A0=A0=A0They are very lightweight, =0A> rugged=
 and very sensitive.=A0=A0=A0I'd use a felt=0A> beater to lesson the impact=
=0A> noise on the plastic so the jingles sing out more.=0A> =0A> It even co=
mes with spikes that you can reverse with rubber=0A> covered feet depending=
 on if you are on a wooden floor or=0A> a rug.=0A> =0A> The post that holds=
 drumset styled tambourines can also=0A> hold mounted=0A> plastic wood bloc=
ks,=A0 cowbells and other percussion=0A> instruments.=0A> =0A> I recommend =
the Rhythm Techs and they have both warmer=0A> brass jingles or=0A> brighte=
r stainless steel ones for sale.=0A> =0A> http://drums-percussion.musicians=
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=0A> =0A> This one looks good, too and can probably found more=0A> inexpens=
ively in=0A> Germany=0A> =0A> http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/p=
roduct/Meinl-Mountable-Tambourine?sku=3D446607=0A> =0A> Lastly,=A0 I'd exho=
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through the web,=A0 so that you support local=0A> economy and all the=0A> m=
usicians that they , invariably employ.=0A> =0A> Good luck and let me know =
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>From what I have read, MIDI clock sync in has still not been implemented
yet, right?

How hard is it to control the individual loops? I have an echoplex, but I
much prefer the GUI and multi-loop function of sooperlooper. I'd also like
the ability to pan each loop separately.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Adrian Belew uses these?
>
> 2010/1/19 Andr=E9 Donawa <andre@andredonawa.com>
>
> Thanks Brian,
>>
>> I found it here.
>>
>> http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200909/msg00242.html
>>
>> Andre
>>
>> http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa
>> http://www.andredonawa.com
>> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
>> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa
>>
>> On Tue, January 19, 2010 2:41 am, BC wrote:
>> > I have one. Super-easy to use, sounds great, but software isn't 100%
>> > completed yet. It can only play 2 loops out of 4 simultaneously, but i=
s
>> > expected to be able to do so this Spring, last I heard.
>> >
>> > I did a review on it a few months ago. You might find it thru a search=
.
>> It
>> > has to be the easiest looper to use in a live situation, although it
>> does
>> > have some limitations feature-wise. If you want simplicity and
>> > reliability,
>> > this is a serious contender. The sound quality is vastly superior to t=
he
>> > Rang II.
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> > any thoughts on the rang lll?
>> >
>> >
>> > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>> > signature database 4784 (20100118) __________
>> >
>> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>> >
>> > http://www.eset.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa
>> http://www.andredonawa.com
>> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
>> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
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>From what I have read, MIDI clock sync in has still not been implemented ye=
t, right?<br><br>How hard is it to control the individual loops? I have an =
echoplex, but I much prefer the GUI and multi-loop function of sooperlooper=
. I&#39;d also like the ability to pan each loop separately. <br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Petri Lahti=
nen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aikuinen@gmail.com">aikuinen@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padd=
ing-left: 1ex;">
Adrian Belew uses these?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/19 Andr=
=E9 Donawa <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:andre@andredonawa.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">andre@andredonawa.com</a>&gt;</span><div><div></div><div c=
lass=3D"h5">
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(2=
04, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks Brian,<br>
<br>
I found it here.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200909/msg00242.html" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200909/msg00242.h=
tml</a><br>
<div><br>
Andre<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://twitter=
.com/AndreDonawa</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.andredonawa.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.andredo=
nawa.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://cdba=
by.com/all/andredonawa</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.myspace.com/andredonawa</a><br>
<br>
</div><div><div></div><div>On Tue, January 19, 2010 2:41 am, BC wrote:<br>
&gt; I have one. Super-easy to use, sounds great, but software isn&#39;t 10=
0%<br>
&gt; completed yet. It can only play 2 loops out of 4 simultaneously, but i=
s<br>
&gt; expected to be able to do so this Spring, last I heard.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I did a review on it a few months ago. You might find it thru a search=
. It<br>
&gt; has to be the easiest looper to use in a live situation, although it d=
oes<br>
&gt; have some limitations feature-wise. If you want simplicity and<br>
&gt; reliability,<br>
&gt; this is a serious contender. The sound quality is vastly superior to t=
he<br>
&gt; Rang II.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Brian<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; any thoughts on the rang lll?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus<br>
&gt; signature database 4784 (20100118) __________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.eset.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.eset.com<=
/a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><div><div></div><div><a href=3D"http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.andredonawa.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.andredo=
nawa.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://cdba=
by.com/all/andredonawa</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.myspace.com/andredonawa</a><br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br=
>Petri Lahtinen<br><a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://petrilahtinen.blog=
spot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.myspace.com/petrilahtinen</a><br><a href=3D"http://twitter.com/PetriLaht=
inen" target=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen</a><br><a href=3D"=
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://petrilahtinen.=
bandcamp.com/</a><br>

---------------------------------------------------<br>&quot;Only become pr=
ofessional musician if there is no choice.&quot; -Robert Fripp-<br>--------=
-------------------------------------------<br>&quot;Some people never go c=
razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead.&quot; -Charles Bukowski-<br=
>

<br>
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As far as I am aware there is no plans for midi sync capabilities, the
midi port is there soley for updating and sync with other Rang IIIs. I
could be wrong. It is a great looper, I use mine live in a
indie/alternative band context and the ease of use makes it ideal for
that purpose. I would say however until the more powerful features are
implemented there may be better options for use in a solo performance.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:37 PM, marcus <nrvana8775@gmail.com> wrote:
> From what I have read, MIDI clock sync in has still not been implemented
> yet, right?
>
> How hard is it to control the individual loops? I have an echoplex, but I
> much prefer the GUI and multi-loop function of sooperlooper. I'd also lik=
e
> the ability to pan each loop separately.
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>>
>> Adrian Belew uses these?
>>
>> 2010/1/19 Andr=E9 Donawa <andre@andredonawa.com>
>>>
>>> Thanks Brian,
>>>
>>> I found it here.
>>>
>>> http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200909/msg00242.html
>>>
>>> Andre
>>>
>>> http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa
>>> http://www.andredonawa.com
>>> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
>>> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa
>>>
>>> On Tue, January 19, 2010 2:41 am, BC wrote:
>>> > I have one. Super-easy to use, sounds great, but software isn't 100%
>>> > completed yet. It can only play 2 loops out of 4 simultaneously, but =
is
>>> > expected to be able to do so this Spring, last I heard.
>>> >
>>> > I did a review on it a few months ago. You might find it thru a searc=
h.
>>> > It
>>> > has to be the easiest looper to use in a live situation, although it
>>> > does
>>> > have some limitations feature-wise. If you want simplicity and
>>> > reliability,
>>> > this is a serious contender. The sound quality is vastly superior to
>>> > the
>>> > Rang II.
>>> >
>>> > Brian
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >
>>> > any thoughts on the rang lll?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>>> > signature database 4784 (20100118) __________
>>> >
>>> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>> >
>>> > http://www.eset.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa
>>> http://www.andredonawa.com
>>> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
>>> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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-
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead."
>> -Charles Bukowski-
>>
>
>

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title sez it. Awesome pocket chirping/buzzing/dram machine In Excellent
shape. Pics and info here:
http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm


>From bugbrand's site"

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mini-amp, all in a package measuring just 7 x 8 cm! The Postcard approach
matured through a few variants from the end of 2005 to reach the current
design, released at the start of 2008. There's a vast range of sounds
hidden within the little package which are coaxed out through settings of
the dials and body contacts. At first the device may seem chaotic, but
with practice and feel you really can play, rolling along with the
unexpectedness that springs out! Everything intermodulates, so a small
twist of a dial can send the sounds spinning into new areas. Personally I
really love the characterful sound from the onboard MiniAmp (and like the
ethos of total portability), but there's also a mono 1/8" minijack line
output (due to popular demand!). Note that this is a slightly unstable
output with great variations in output level depending on power
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I refuse to get dragged into the software verses hardware debate ok??
Hardware is just BETTER OK???? But.. while i=B4m here, I=B4d just like to a=
sk a
software question.

Is anyone here using AudioMulch as a host for Mobius?

I dropped it in OK, and routed the outs into a mulch mixer ok, and Im sure =
I
will get Mob to synch with Mulch ...but what Id really like to do is have
Mulch synch with Mobius... even tho Mobius is INSIDE of Mulch.. is this
possible... If so... how? Step by steps please, from people who do it, not =
a
general.. Oh you route the midi pipe into the sysex bus and select Midi thr=
u
on all the in ports in and output the audio synch track on all channels...
unless you are using OSC.. in which case use Bidule, cos then you can use
the AU version..

It's "Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST" within, OK?? Or
I smash yer teeth in...

M

PS: Funny day today.. please excuse weird mood... I just got a 3 KR million
job for the U.N. and.. strangely... not feeling good about it...... dont
ask... unless you wanna come down the pub and then Ill tell you all...

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I refuse to get dragged into the software verses hardware debate ok??<br>Ha=
rdware is just BETTER OK???? But.. while i=B4m here, I=B4d just like to ask=
 a software question.<br><br>Is anyone here using AudioMulch as a host for =
Mobius?<br>

<br>I dropped it in OK, and routed the outs into a mulch mixer ok, and Im s=
ure I will get Mob to synch with Mulch ...but what Id really like to do is =
have Mulch synch with Mobius... even tho Mobius is INSIDE of Mulch.. is thi=
s possible... If so... how? Step by steps please, from people who do it, no=
t a general.. Oh you route the midi pipe into the sysex bus and select Midi=
 thru on all the in ports in and output the audio synch track on all channe=
ls... unless you are using OSC.. in which case use Bidule, cos then you can=
 use the AU version..<br>

<br>It&#39;s &quot;Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST&quo=
t; within, OK?? Or I smash yer teeth in...<br><br>M<br><br>PS: Funny day to=
day.. please excuse weird mood... I just got a 3 KR million job for the U.N=
. and.. strangely... not feeling good about it...... dont ask... unless you=
 wanna come down the pub and then Ill tell you all... <br>

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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:

> It's "Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST" within, OK??



Depends on what OS the machine is running by. If Windows (at least XP, don't
know about Vista or 7), you have to download and install a patch called MIDI
Yoke. MIDI Yoke creates MIDI pipes inside the OS through with you can tell
Mobius VST to send out MIDI Clock sync signal. Then you tell Audio Mulch
what MIDI Yoke pipe to listen at for a sync signal put into sync slave mode
and make a loop in Mobius. Eh... forgot to tell also that Mobius has to be
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commands). I think that's it.

Greetings from Sweden

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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:23 PM, mark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
It&#39;s &quot;Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST&quot; w=
ithin, OK??</blockquote></div><br><div><br></div><div>Depends on what OS th=
e machine is running by. If Windows (at least XP, don&#39;t know about Vist=
a or 7), you have to download and install a patch called MIDI Yoke. MIDI Yo=
ke creates MIDI pipes inside the OS through with you can tell Mobius VST to=
 send out MIDI Clock sync signal. Then you tell Audio Mulch what MIDI Yoke =
pipe to listen at for a sync signal put into sync slave mode and make a loo=
p in Mobius. Eh... forgot to tell also that Mobius has to be set as Sync Ma=
ster (&quot;sync =3D out&quot; or the other one that also sends song start =
commands). I think that&#39;s it.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen=C2=A0<br><a hre=
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> =
wrote:
>>
>> It's "Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST" within, OK??
>
> Depends on what OS the machine is running by. If Windows (at least XP, do=
n't know about Vista or 7), you have to download and install a patch called=
 MIDI Yoke. MIDI Yoke creates MIDI pipes inside the OS through with you can=
 tell Mobius VST to send out MIDI Clock sync signal. Then you tell Audio Mu=
lch what MIDI Yoke pipe to listen at for a sync signal put into sync slave =
mode and make a loop in Mobius. Eh... forgot to tell also that Mobius has t=
o be set as Sync Master ("sync =3D out" or the other one that also sends so=
ng start commands). I think that's it.

If Audio Mulch can do that, that is. I'm not experienced with it.

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Nope Per.. Mac!!!! Which I=B4m SURE you know how to do.. but Mulch?



On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>w=
rote:
>
>> It's "Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST" within, OK??
>
>
>
> Depends on what OS the machine is running by. If Windows (at least XP,
> don't know about Vista or 7), you have to download and install a patch
> called MIDI Yoke. MIDI Yoke creates MIDI pipes inside the OS through with
> you can tell Mobius VST to send out MIDI Clock sync signal. Then you tell
> Audio Mulch what MIDI Yoke pipe to listen at for a sync signal put into s=
ync
> slave mode and make a loop in Mobius. Eh... forgot to tell also that Mobi=
us
> has to be set as Sync Master ("sync =3D out" or the other one that also s=
ends
> song start commands). I think that's it.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>



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Nope Per.. Mac!!!! Which I=B4m SURE you know how to do.. but Mulch?<br><br>=
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Per Boy=
sen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
>On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:23 PM, mark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markfrancombe.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-le=
ft: 1ex;">
It&#39;s &quot;Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST&quot; w=
ithin, OK??</blockquote></div><br><div><br></div></div><div>Depends on what=
 OS the machine is running by. If Windows (at least XP, don&#39;t know abou=
t Vista or 7), you have to download and install a patch called MIDI Yoke. M=
IDI Yoke creates MIDI pipes inside the OS through with you can tell Mobius =
VST to send out MIDI Clock sync signal. Then you tell Audio Mulch what MIDI=
 Yoke pipe to listen at for a sync signal put into sync slave mode and make=
 a loop in Mobius. Eh... forgot to tell also that Mobius has to be set as S=
ync Master (&quot;sync =3D out&quot; or the other one that also sends song =
start commands). I think that&#39;s it.=A0</div>


<div><br></div><div>Greetings from Sweden<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>Pe=
r Boysen=A0<br><a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boyse=
n.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perb=
oysen.com</a></font></div>


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Yes, Mac is simpler. OS X already has built-in MIDI channels through
the system. It's called "IAC Bus" and if not ative you have to
activate at least one IAX Bus port. That is done by opening
"applications / utilities / Audio MIDI Setup". In that application you
go "Window / Show MIDI Widow". Double-click the IAC Driver icon and
check in the box named "Ports" (for a Port... I'm not going to fast am
I?  ;-)   If no IAC Bus port is listed there you click below on the +
sign labeled "Add and remove ports" (to remove a port you would have
to click the - sign, but we're not doing that today). Ok then, close
down the Audio MIDI Setup. Now when you open Mobius you will notice in
the MIDI Devices window that a new port is available. Select it (the
newborn IAC) as "Plugin Output". In Audio Mulch there is probably a
window where you set up MIDI ports to be used by the application; make
sure newborn IAC is allowed to play with the boys in the mulch. Then
there has to be a window in Mulchy where you set up synchronization
preferences; set newborn IAC as the port where Muchie should look for
MIDI Clock master sync. If there is a box for "MIDI Slave mode" tic it
as well while you're at it.

per


On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wr=
ote:
> Nope Per.. Mac!!!! Which I=C2=B4m SURE you know how to do.. but Mulch?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's "Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST" within, OK?=
?
>>
>> Depends on what OS the machine is running by. If Windows (at least XP,
>> don't know about Vista or 7), you have to download and install a patch
>> called MIDI Yoke. MIDI Yoke creates MIDI pipes inside the OS through wit=
h
>> you can tell Mobius VST to send out MIDI Clock sync signal. Then you tel=
l
>> Audio Mulch what MIDI Yoke pipe to listen at for a sync signal put into =
sync
>> slave mode and make a loop in Mobius. Eh... forgot to tell also that Mob=
ius
>> has to be set as Sync Master ("sync =3D out" or the other one that also =
sends
>> song start commands). I think that's it.
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>
>
> --
> www.markfrancombe.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
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> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
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Thanks Per.. that did it (with one small addition, one has to click on
Device Enable.. maybe that should have been obvious, but not to some...)

So now I have a loop synching with a Loop Player Contraption  in Mulch.. bu=
t
there ONE thing wrong... When I hit R then R (to record in Mobius) The temp=
o
displayed in Mobius (And hence output from Mobius and hence the bpm of
Mulch) is 25 (ish 29 or whatever.) now I KNOW that Im maling a roughly 120
bpm loop here... cos Im counting R 1 2 3 4 R...
Why is that? Mobius WORKS as of its own tempo ok.. but reading out a very
slow one... Is it dependant on the 8th per cycle setting? (Cos thats what I
do in my hardware EDP setup to fire off my drum machines and sequencers at
faster or slower tempi.. (is it tempos or tempi?) But in Mobius I woudnt
expct that behaviour.. and it doesnt seem to either.... so is there a
general tempo setting or somat?

Mark


On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, Mac is simpler. OS X already has built-in MIDI channels through
> the system. It's called "IAC Bus" and if not ative you have to
> activate at least one IAX Bus port. That is done by opening
> "applications / utilities / Audio MIDI Setup". In that application you
> go "Window / Show MIDI Widow". Double-click the IAC Driver icon and
> check in the box named "Ports" (for a Port... I'm not going to fast am
> I?  ;-)   If no IAC Bus port is listed there you click below on the +
> sign labeled "Add and remove ports" (to remove a port you would have
> to click the - sign, but we're not doing that today). Ok then, close
> down the Audio MIDI Setup. Now when you open Mobius you will notice in
> the MIDI Devices window that a new port is available. Select it (the
> newborn IAC) as "Plugin Output". In Audio Mulch there is probably a
> window where you set up MIDI ports to be used by the application; make
> sure newborn IAC is allowed to play with the boys in the mulch. Then
> there has to be a window in Mulchy where you set up synchronization
> preferences; set newborn IAC as the port where Muchie should look for
> MIDI Clock master sync. If there is a box for "MIDI Slave mode" tic it
> as well while you're at it.
>
> per
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
> > Nope Per.. Mac!!!! Which I=B4m SURE you know how to do.. but Mulch?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.co=
m
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It's "Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST" within,
> OK??
> >>
> >> Depends on what OS the machine is running by. If Windows (at least XP,
> >> don't know about Vista or 7), you have to download and install a patch
> >> called MIDI Yoke. MIDI Yoke creates MIDI pipes inside the OS through
> with
> >> you can tell Mobius VST to send out MIDI Clock sync signal. Then you
> tell
> >> Audio Mulch what MIDI Yoke pipe to listen at for a sync signal put int=
o
> sync
> >> slave mode and make a loop in Mobius. Eh... forgot to tell also that
> Mobius
> >> has to be set as Sync Master ("sync =3D out" or the other one that als=
o
> sends
> >> song start commands). I think that's it.
> >> Greetings from Sweden
> >>
> >> Per Boysen
> >> www.boysen.se
> >> www.perboysen.com
> >
> >
> > --
> > www.markfrancombe.com
> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
> >
>
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Thanks Per.. that did it (with one small addition, one has to click on Devi=
ce Enable.. maybe that should have been obvious, but not to some...)<br><br=
>So now I have a loop synching with a Loop Player Contraption=A0 in Mulch..=
 but there ONE thing wrong... When I hit R then R (to record in Mobius) The=
 tempo displayed in Mobius (And hence output from Mobius and hence the bpm =
of Mulch) is 25 (ish 29 or whatever.) now I KNOW that Im maling a roughly 1=
20 bpm loop here... cos Im counting R 1 2 3 4 R... <br>

Why is that? Mobius WORKS as of its own tempo ok.. but reading out a very s=
low one... Is it dependant on the 8th per cycle setting? (Cos thats what I =
do in my hardware EDP setup to fire off my drum machines and sequencers at =
faster or slower tempi.. (is it tempos or tempi?) But in Mobius I woudnt ex=
pct that behaviour.. and it doesnt seem to either.... so is there a general=
 tempo setting or somat?<br>

<br>Mark<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:32=
 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com=
">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0=
pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

Yes, Mac is simpler. OS X already has built-in MIDI channels through<br>
the system. It&#39;s called &quot;IAC Bus&quot; and if not ative you have t=
o<br>
activate at least one IAX Bus port. That is done by opening<br>
&quot;applications / utilities / Audio MIDI Setup&quot;. In that applicatio=
n you<br>
go &quot;Window / Show MIDI Widow&quot;. Double-click the IAC Driver icon a=
nd<br>
check in the box named &quot;Ports&quot; (for a Port... I&#39;m not going t=
o fast am<br>
I? =A0;-) =A0 If no IAC Bus port is listed there you click below on the +<b=
r>
sign labeled &quot;Add and remove ports&quot; (to remove a port you would h=
ave<br>
to click the - sign, but we&#39;re not doing that today). Ok then, close<br=
>
down the Audio MIDI Setup. Now when you open Mobius you will notice in<br>
the MIDI Devices window that a new port is available. Select it (the<br>
newborn IAC) as &quot;Plugin Output&quot;. In Audio Mulch there is probably=
 a<br>
window where you set up MIDI ports to be used by the application; make<br>
sure newborn IAC is allowed to play with the boys in the mulch. Then<br>
there has to be a window in Mulchy where you set up synchronization<br>
preferences; set newborn IAC as the port where Muchie should look for<br>
MIDI Clock master sync. If there is a box for &quot;MIDI Slave mode&quot; t=
ic it<br>
as well while you&#39;re at it.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
per<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@=
markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Nope Per.. Mac!!!! Which I=B4m SURE you know how to do.. but Mulch?<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Per Boysen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perb=
oysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:23 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; It&#39;s &quot;Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running a=
s VST&quot; within, OK??<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Depends on what OS the machine is running by. If Windows (at least=
 XP,<br>
&gt;&gt; don&#39;t know about Vista or 7), you have to download and install=
 a patch<br>
&gt;&gt; called MIDI Yoke. MIDI Yoke creates MIDI pipes inside the OS throu=
gh with<br>
&gt;&gt; you can tell Mobius VST to send out MIDI Clock sync signal. Then y=
ou tell<br>
&gt;&gt; Audio Mulch what MIDI Yoke pipe to listen at for a sync signal put=
 into sync<br>
&gt;&gt; slave mode and make a loop in Mobius. Eh... forgot to tell also th=
at Mobius<br>
&gt;&gt; has to be set as Sync Master (&quot;sync =3D out&quot; or the othe=
r one that also sends<br>
&gt;&gt; song start commands). I think that&#39;s it.<br>
&gt;&gt; Greetings from Sweden<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Per Boysen<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</=
a><br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboys=
en.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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ncombe.com</a><br>
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&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">htt=
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ch" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non=
%20Synch</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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//vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http:=
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where is the pub I need to come down to in order to hear about the UN job-)=
=0AI live in Geneva and will be performing some poetry in the poet circle t=
here, you caught my curiosity=0Aand please do not smash my teeth in-)=0AAnt=
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rs-delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=0ASent: Tue, January 19, 2=
010 8:23:47 PM=0ASubject: Trying software again.. YIKES!!!=0A=0AI refuse to=
 get dragged into the software verses hardware debate ok??=0AHardware is ju=
st BETTER OK???? But.. while i=B4m here, I=B4d just like to ask a software =
question.=0A=0AIs anyone here using AudioMulch as a host for Mobius?=0A=0AI=
 dropped it in OK, and routed the outs into a mulch mixer ok, and Im sure I=
 will get Mob to synch with Mulch ...but what Id really like to do is have =
Mulch synch with Mobius... even tho Mobius is INSIDE of Mulch.. is this pos=
sible... If so... how? Step by steps please, from people who do it, not a g=
eneral.. Oh you route the midi pipe into the sysex bus and select Midi thru=
 on all the in ports in and output the audio synch track on all channels...=
 unless you are using OSC.. in which case use Bidule, cos then you can use =
the AU version..=0A=0AIt's "Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running a=
s VST" within, OK?? Or I smash yer teeth in...=0A=0AM=0A=0APS: Funny day to=
day.. please excuse weird mood... I just got a 3 KR million job for the U.N=
.. and.. strangely... not feeling good about it...... dont ask... unless you=
 wanna come down the pub and then Ill tell you all... =0A=0A-- =0Awww.markf=
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Yes, the tempo tossed at the host is dependent on the 8ths per cycle
setting. Just like with the EDP. But there's a genius workaround in
Mobius called "Maximum vs Minimum Tempo". Set it to a comfy range like
64 to 123 or whatever. If doing dubstep or dnb just play/think double
tempo while still let the machines run at your preferred tempo range
(might make sense to limit the tempo range to make best use of synced
delays and stuff)

"Configurations / Prest / Synchronization" is where it's at.

Greetings from Sweden

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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:43 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Is it dependant on the 8th per cycle setting? (Cos thats what I do in my
> hardware EDP setup to fire off my drum machines and sequencers at faster or
> slower tempi.. (is it tempos or tempi?) But in Mobius I woudnt expct that
> behaviour.. and it doesnt seem to either.... so is there a general tempo
> setting or somat?

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Oslo.. sorry.. nearly as expensive beer Im afraid!


On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:51 PM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:

> where is the pub I need to come down to in order to hear about the UN job=
-)
> I live in Geneva and will be performing some poetry in the poet circle
> there, you caught my curiosity
> and please do not smash my teeth in-)
> Antony
>
> www.antonyhequet.com
> www.mund.fr
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> *To:* loopers-delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> *Sent:* Tue, January 19, 2010 8:23:47 PM
> *Subject:* Trying software again.. YIKES!!!
>
> I refuse to get dragged into the software verses hardware debate ok??
> Hardware is just BETTER OK???? But.. while i=B4m here, I=B4d just like to=
 ask a
> software question.
>
> Is anyone here using AudioMulch as a host for Mobius?
>
> I dropped it in OK, and routed the outs into a mulch mixer ok, and Im sur=
e
> I will get Mob to synch with Mulch ...but what Id really like to do is ha=
ve
> Mulch synch with Mobius... even tho Mobius is INSIDE of Mulch.. is this
> possible... If so... how? Step by steps please, from people who do it, no=
t a
> general.. Oh you route the midi pipe into the sysex bus and select Midi t=
hru
> on all the in ports in and output the audio synch track on all channels..=
.
> unless you are using OSC.. in which case use Bidule, cos then you can use
> the AU version..
>
> It's "Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST" within, OK?? =
Or
> I smash yer teeth in...
>
> M
>
> PS: Funny day today.. please excuse weird mood... I just got a 3 KR milli=
on
> job for the U.N. and.. strangely.... not feeling good about it...... dont
> ask... unless you wanna come down the pub and then Ill tell you all...
>
> --
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Oslo.. sorry.. nearly as expensive beer Im afraid!<br><br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:51 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:antonyhequet@yahoo.com">antonyhequet@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div>where i=
s the pub I need to come down to in order to hear about the UN job-)<br>

I live in Geneva and will be performing some poetry in the poet circle ther=
e, you caught my curiosity<br>and please do not smash my teeth in-)<br>Anto=
ny<br><br><span><a href=3D"http://www.antonyhequet.com" target=3D"_blank">w=
ww.antonyhequet.com</a></span><br>

<span><a href=3D"http://www.mund.fr" target=3D"_blank">www.mund.fr</a></spa=
n><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-siz=
e: 14pt;"><br><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman,new york,times,ser=
if; font-size: 12pt;">

<font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weig=
ht: bold;">From:</span></b> mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markf=
rancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> loopers-delight
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-we=
ight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, January 19, 2010 8:23:47 PM<br><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Trying software again.. YI=
KES!!!<br>

</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
I refuse to get dragged into the software verses hardware debate ok??<br>Ha=
rdware is just BETTER OK???? But.. while i=B4m here, I=B4d just like to ask=
 a software question.<br><br>Is anyone here using AudioMulch as a host for =
Mobius?<br>



<br>I dropped it in OK, and routed the outs into a mulch mixer ok, and Im s=
ure I will get Mob to synch with Mulch ...but what Id really like to do is =
have Mulch synch with Mobius... even tho Mobius is INSIDE of Mulch.. is thi=
s possible... If so... how? Step by steps please, from people who do it, no=
t a general.. Oh you route the midi pipe into the sysex bus and select Midi=
 thru on all the in ports in and output the audio synch track on all channe=
ls... unless you are using OSC.. in which case use Bidule, cos then you can=
 use the AU version..<br>



<br>It&#39;s &quot;Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST&quo=
t; within, OK?? Or I smash yer teeth in...<br><br>M<br><br>PS: Funny day to=
day.. please excuse weird mood... I just got a 3 KR million job for the U.N=
. and.. strangely.... not feeling good about it...... dont ask... unless yo=
u wanna come down the pub and then Ill tell you all... <br>



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</div></div></div></div>

</div><br>

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OOps Per.. sussed it.. There was an obscure setting in Mobius... Maximum
Tempo.. I set it to 400 and now it works lovery! Maybe you could tell me
what its for??

M

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:43 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wr=
ote:

> Thanks Per.. that did it (with one small addition, one has to click on
> Device Enable.. maybe that should have been obvious, but not to some...)
>
> So now I have a loop synching with a Loop Player Contraption  in Mulch..
> but there ONE thing wrong... When I hit R then R (to record in Mobius) Th=
e
> tempo displayed in Mobius (And hence output from Mobius and hence the bpm=
 of
> Mulch) is 25 (ish 29 or whatever.) now I KNOW that Im maling a roughly 12=
0
> bpm loop here... cos Im counting R 1 2 3 4 R...
> Why is that? Mobius WORKS as of its own tempo ok.. but reading out a very
> slow one... Is it dependant on the 8th per cycle setting? (Cos thats what=
 I
> do in my hardware EDP setup to fire off my drum machines and sequencers a=
t
> faster or slower tempi.. (is it tempos or tempi?) But in Mobius I woudnt
> expct that behaviour.. and it doesnt seem to either.... so is there a
> general tempo setting or somat?
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Mac is simpler. OS X already has built-in MIDI channels through
>> the system. It's called "IAC Bus" and if not ative you have to
>> activate at least one IAX Bus port. That is done by opening
>> "applications / utilities / Audio MIDI Setup". In that application you
>> go "Window / Show MIDI Widow". Double-click the IAC Driver icon and
>> check in the box named "Ports" (for a Port... I'm not going to fast am
>> I?  ;-)   If no IAC Bus port is listed there you click below on the +
>> sign labeled "Add and remove ports" (to remove a port you would have
>> to click the - sign, but we're not doing that today). Ok then, close
>> down the Audio MIDI Setup. Now when you open Mobius you will notice in
>> the MIDI Devices window that a new port is available. Select it (the
>> newborn IAC) as "Plugin Output". In Audio Mulch there is probably a
>> window where you set up MIDI ports to be used by the application; make
>> sure newborn IAC is allowed to play with the boys in the mulch. Then
>> there has to be a window in Mulchy where you set up synchronization
>> preferences; set newborn IAC as the port where Muchie should look for
>> MIDI Clock master sync. If there is a box for "MIDI Slave mode" tic it
>> as well while you're at it.
>>
>> per
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Nope Per.. Mac!!!! Which I=B4m SURE you know how to do.. but Mulch?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:23 PM, mark francombe <
>> mark@markfrancombe.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> It's "Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST" within,
>> OK??
>> >>
>> >> Depends on what OS the machine is running by. If Windows (at least XP=
,
>> >> don't know about Vista or 7), you have to download and install a patc=
h
>> >> called MIDI Yoke. MIDI Yoke creates MIDI pipes inside the OS through
>> with
>> >> you can tell Mobius VST to send out MIDI Clock sync signal. Then you
>> tell
>> >> Audio Mulch what MIDI Yoke pipe to listen at for a sync signal put in=
to
>> sync
>> >> slave mode and make a loop in Mobius. Eh... forgot to tell also that
>> Mobius
>> >> has to be set as Sync Master ("sync =3D out" or the other one that al=
so
>> sends
>> >> song start commands). I think that's it.
>> >> Greetings from Sweden
>> >>
>> >> Per Boysen
>> >> www.boysen.se
>> >> www.perboysen.com
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > www.markfrancombe.com
>> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
>> > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
>> > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
>> >
>>
>>
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>
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OOps Per.. sussed it.. There was an obscure setting in Mobius... Maximum Te=
mpo.. I set it to 400 and now it works lovery! Maybe you could tell me what=
 its for??<br><br>M<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 =
at 10:43 PM, mark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@ma=
rkfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Thanks Per.. that=
 did it (with one small addition, one has to click on Device Enable.. maybe=
 that should have been obvious, but not to some...)<br>

<br>So now I have a loop synching with a Loop Player Contraption=A0 in Mulc=
h.. but there ONE thing wrong... When I hit R then R (to record in Mobius) =
The tempo displayed in Mobius (And hence output from Mobius and hence the b=
pm of Mulch) is 25 (ish 29 or whatever.) now I KNOW that Im maling a roughl=
y 120 bpm loop here... cos Im counting R 1 2 3 4 R... <br>


Why is that? Mobius WORKS as of its own tempo ok.. but reading out a very s=
low one... Is it dependant on the 8th per cycle setting? (Cos thats what I =
do in my hardware EDP setup to fire off my drum machines and sequencers at =
faster or slower tempi.. (is it tempos or tempi?) But in Mobius I woudnt ex=
pct that behaviour.. and it doesnt seem to either.... so is there a general=
 tempo setting or somat?<br>

<font color=3D"#888888">
<br>Mark</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Yes, Mac is simpler. OS X already has built-in MIDI channels through<br>
the system. It&#39;s called &quot;IAC Bus&quot; and if not ative you have t=
o<br>
activate at least one IAX Bus port. That is done by opening<br>
&quot;applications / utilities / Audio MIDI Setup&quot;. In that applicatio=
n you<br>
go &quot;Window / Show MIDI Widow&quot;. Double-click the IAC Driver icon a=
nd<br>
check in the box named &quot;Ports&quot; (for a Port... I&#39;m not going t=
o fast am<br>
I? =A0;-) =A0 If no IAC Bus port is listed there you click below on the +<b=
r>
sign labeled &quot;Add and remove ports&quot; (to remove a port you would h=
ave<br>
to click the - sign, but we&#39;re not doing that today). Ok then, close<br=
>
down the Audio MIDI Setup. Now when you open Mobius you will notice in<br>
the MIDI Devices window that a new port is available. Select it (the<br>
newborn IAC) as &quot;Plugin Output&quot;. In Audio Mulch there is probably=
 a<br>
window where you set up MIDI ports to be used by the application; make<br>
sure newborn IAC is allowed to play with the boys in the mulch. Then<br>
there has to be a window in Mulchy where you set up synchronization<br>
preferences; set newborn IAC as the port where Muchie should look for<br>
MIDI Clock master sync. If there is a box for &quot;MIDI Slave mode&quot; t=
ic it<br>
as well while you&#39;re at it.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
per<br>
</font><div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@=
markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br>
&gt; Nope Per.. Mac!!!! Which I=B4m SURE you know how to do.. but Mulch?<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Per Boysen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perb=
oysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:23 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt=
;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; It&#39;s &quot;Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running a=
s VST&quot; within, OK??<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Depends on what OS the machine is running by. If Windows (at least=
 XP,<br>
&gt;&gt; don&#39;t know about Vista or 7), you have to download and install=
 a patch<br>
&gt;&gt; called MIDI Yoke. MIDI Yoke creates MIDI pipes inside the OS throu=
gh with<br>
&gt;&gt; you can tell Mobius VST to send out MIDI Clock sync signal. Then y=
ou tell<br>
&gt;&gt; Audio Mulch what MIDI Yoke pipe to listen at for a sync signal put=
 into sync<br>
&gt;&gt; slave mode and make a loop in Mobius. Eh... forgot to tell also th=
at Mobius<br>
&gt;&gt; has to be set as Sync Master (&quot;sync =3D out&quot; or the othe=
r one that also sends<br>
&gt;&gt; song start commands). I think that&#39;s it.<br>
&gt;&gt; Greetings from Sweden<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Per Boysen<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</=
a><br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboys=
en.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markfra=
ncombe.com</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo=
.com/user825094</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Syn=
ch" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non=
%20Synch</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div>-- <br=
><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com"=
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:53 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> OOps Per.. sussed it.. There was an obscure setting in Mobius... Maximum
> Tempo.. I set it to 400 and now it works lovery! Maybe you could tell me
> what its for??

The Min/Max tempo is to make it possible to start our with a very
short loop and go granular or start out with a very long loop. With
the EDP the first would result in 512 something BPM and the second
would snail away at 4 BPM (no dancing guaranteed...). With the Min/Max
Tempo both of these looping scenarios will fall within your preferred
tempo range and all synced delays, filterbanks and tremolo stuff will
have the rhythm right away.

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well I am spendiignthe winter in the northern part of Holland, so I am far =
but not that far...=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: =
mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig=
ht.com=0ASent: Tue, January 19, 2010 10:52:14 PM=0ASubject: Re: Trying soft=
ware again.. YIKES!!!=0A=0AOslo.. sorry.. nearly as expensive beer Im afrai=
d!=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:51 PM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wr=
ote:=0A=0Awhere is the pub I need to come down to in order to hear about th=
e UN job-)=0A>>=0A>I live in Geneva and will be performing some poetry in t=
he poet circle there, you caught my curiosity=0A>and please do not smash my=
 teeth in-)=0A>Antony=0A>=0A>www.antonyhequet.com=0A>www.mund.fr=0A>=0A>=0A=
>=0A>>=0A________________________________=0AFrom: mark francombe <mark@mark=
francombe.com>=0A>To: loopers-delight=0A> <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.=
com>=0A>Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 8:23:47 PM=0A>Subject: Trying software =
again.. YIKES!!!=0A>=0A>=0A>>I refuse to get dragged into the software vers=
es hardware debate ok??=0A>Hardware is just BETTER OK???? But.. while i=B4m=
 here, I=B4d just like to ask a software question.=0A>=0A>Is anyone here us=
ing AudioMulch as a host for Mobius?=0A>=0A>I dropped it in OK, and routed =
the outs into a mulch mixer ok, and Im sure I will get Mob to synch with Mu=
lch ...but what Id really like to do is have Mulch synch with Mobius... eve=
n tho Mobius is INSIDE of Mulch.. is this possible... If so... how? Step by=
 steps please, from people who do it, not a general.. Oh you route the midi=
 pipe into the sysex bus and select Midi thru on all the in ports in and ou=
tput the audio synch track on all channels... unless you are using OSC.. in=
 which case use Bidule, cos then you can use the AU version..=0A>=0A>It's "=
Mulch to be synched by Mobius that is running as VST" within, OK?? Or I sma=
sh yer teeth in...=0A>=0A>M=0A>=0A>PS: Funny day today.. please excuse weir=
d mood... I just got a 3 KR million job for the U.N. and.. strangely.... no=
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ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14p=
t"><div>well I am spendiignthe winter in the northern part of Holland, so I=
 am far but not that far...<br></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"><br><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
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> mark francombe &lt;mark@markfrancombe.com&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-w=
eight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><spa=
n style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, January 19, 2010 10:52=
:14 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Try=
ing software again.. YIKES!!!<br></font><br>=0AOslo.. sorry.. nearly as exp=
ensive beer Im afraid!<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 19=
, 2010 at 10:51 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:antonyhequet@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:antonyhequet=
@yahoo.com">antonyhequet@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=0A=0A<blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204)=
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mily: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div>where is the pub I=
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n Geneva and will be performing some poetry in the poet circle there, you c=
aught my curiosity<br>and please do not smash my teeth in-)<br>Antony<br><b=
r><span><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.antonyhequ=
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=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;<br><b><sp=
an style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> loopers-delight=0A &lt;<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" targe=
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into the software verses hardware debate ok??<br>Hardware is just BETTER OK=
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><br>Is anyone here using AudioMulch as a host for Mobius?<br>=0A=0A=0A=0A<=
br>I dropped it in OK, and routed the outs into a mulch mixer ok, and Im su=
re I will get Mob to synch with Mulch ...but what Id really like to do is h=
ave Mulch synch with Mobius... even tho Mobius is INSIDE of Mulch.. is this=
 possible... If so... how? Step by steps please, from people who do it, not=
 a general.. Oh you route the midi pipe into the sysex bus and select Midi =
thru on all the in ports in and output the audio synch track on all channel=
s... unless you are using OSC.. in which case use Bidule, cos then you can =
use the AU version..<br>=0A=0A=0A=0A<br>It's "Mulch to be synched by Mobius=
 that is running as VST" within, OK?? Or I smash yer teeth in...<br><br>M<b=
r><br>PS: Funny day today.. please excuse weird mood... I just got a 3 KR m=
illion job for the U.N. and.. strangely.... not feeling good about it......=
 dont ask... unless you wanna come down the pub and then Ill tell you all..=
.. <br>=0A=0A=0A=0A<br>-- <br><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:00 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> spendiignthe winter in the northern part of Holland, so I am far but not
> that far...

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:00 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I live in Geneva


Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it's close enough going from
Switzerland/Holland for for a beer in Norway!  :-)

Greetings from Sweden

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Hmm.. Im nearly with you... so... is the tempo set by min/max some kinda
maths derived from these 2 senarios you describe?


I have to try this.. back soon..

OMG.. geddit.. clever..

back later..

m


On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:53 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
> > OOps Per.. sussed it.. There was an obscure setting in Mobius... Maximum
> > Tempo.. I set it to 400 and now it works lovery! Maybe you could tell me
> > what its for??
>
> The Min/Max tempo is to make it possible to start our with a very
> short loop and go granular or start out with a very long loop. With
> the EDP the first would result in 512 something BPM and the second
> would snail away at 4 BPM (no dancing guaranteed...). With the Min/Max
> Tempo both of these looping scenarios will fall within your preferred
> tempo range and all synced delays, filterbanks and tremolo stuff will
> have the rhythm right away.
>
> per
>
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Hmm.. Im nearly with you... so... is the tempo set by min/max some kinda ma=
ths derived from these 2 senarios you describe?<br><br><br>I have to try th=
is.. back soon..<br><br>OMG.. geddit.. clever..<br><br>back later..<br><br>

m<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:59 PM, P=
er Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perb=
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<div class=3D"im">On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:53 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br>
&gt; OOps Per.. sussed it.. There was an obscure setting in Mobius... Maxim=
um<br>
&gt; Tempo.. I set it to 400 and now it works lovery! Maybe you could tell =
me<br>
&gt; what its for??<br>
<br>
</div>The Min/Max tempo is to make it possible to start our with a very<br>
short loop and go granular or start out with a very long loop. With<br>
the EDP the first would result in 512 something BPM and the second<br>
would snail away at 4 BPM (no dancing guaranteed...). With the Min/Max<br>
Tempo both of these looping scenarios will fall within your preferred<br>
tempo range and all synced delays, filterbanks and tremolo stuff will<br>
have the rhythm right away.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
per<br>
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n
Switzerland and Holland...?

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:00 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > spendiignthe winter in the northern part of Holland, so I am far but no=
t
> > that far...
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:00 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I live in Geneva
>
>
> Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it's close enough going from
> Switzerland/Holland for for a beer in Norway!  :-)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>


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n Switzerland and Holland...?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan=
 19, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:p=
erboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Tue, Jan 19, 2=
010 at 11:00 PM, =A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:antonyhequet@yahoo.com">antonyheq=
uet@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>


&gt; spendiignthe winter in the northern part of Holland, so I am far but n=
ot<br>
&gt; that far...<br>
<br>
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:00 PM, =A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:antonyhequet@yah=
oo.com">antonyhequet@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I live in Geneva<br>
<br>
<br>
Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it&#39;s close enough going from<=
br>
Switzerland/Holland for for a beer in Norway! =A0:-)<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
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<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
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<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http:=
//www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vim=
eo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://uk.=
youtube.com/user/markfrancombe">http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a=
><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">http://www.myspace.com/mar=
kfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSync=
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:42 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Hmm.. Im nearly with you... so... is the tempo set by min/max some kinda
> maths derived from these 2 senarios you describe?

I think it simply divides or multiplies the tempo by two until the
result falls within the set Min/Max range.

per

Regarding the new having-beer-with-marc-in-oslo trend:
I've never had beer in Oslo but awesome Halavah!

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whats the beer like up there Per? does it rock?


> Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it's close
> enough going from
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nope you d be surpised but they dont.
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In Norway? I'm afraid I don't know. Sad to say I'm still working on
learning to appreciate beer. STill can't stand the taste of it. But I
tend to like people that like beer (even though I prefere drinking
something else)

Per


On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
> whats the beer like up there Per? does it rock?
>
>
>> Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it's close
>> enough going from
>>
>> Switzerland/Holland for for a beer in Norway! =C2=A0:-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>>
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>> Per Boysen

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(Psst Luis.. the beer in Norway is pretty rubbish.. sorry)

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> In Norway? I'm afraid I don't know. Sad to say I'm still working on
> learning to appreciate beer. STill can't stand the taste of it. But I
> tend to like people that like beer (even though I prefere drinking
> something else)
>
> Per
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > whats the beer like up there Per? does it rock?
> >
> >
> >> Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it's close
> >> enough going from
> >>
> >> Switzerland/Holland for for a beer in Norway!  :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Greetings from Sweden
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Per Boysen
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(Psst Luis.. the beer in Norway is pretty rubbish.. sorry)<br><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">In Norway? I&#39;=
m afraid I don&#39;t know. Sad to say I&#39;m still working on<br>
learning to appreciate beer. STill can&#39;t stand the taste of it. But I<b=
r>
tend to like people that like beer (even though I prefere drinking<br>
something else)<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, L.Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:labaloops@=
yahoo.com">labaloops@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; whats the beer like up there Per? does it rock?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it&#39;s close<br>
&gt;&gt; enough going from<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Switzerland/Holland for for a beer in Norway! =A0:-)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Greetings from Sweden<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Per Boysen<br>
<br>
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Oh. I see both drummers and piano players wearing them around the
ancles. Can't you just take put a bunch of rattling gadgets on a
rubber band? Roll your own...

Per



2010/1/20 L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>:
> nope you d be surpised but they dont.
>>
>> Any music store should have them.
>> Greetings from Sweden
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Yes. They should stop adding fish aromatica to it. Weird Norway...

Per



On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:34 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> w=
rote:
> (Psst Luis.. the beer in Norway is pretty rubbish.. sorry)
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In Norway? I'm afraid I don't know. Sad to say I'm still working on
>> learning to appreciate beer. STill can't stand the taste of it. But I
>> tend to like people that like beer (even though I prefere drinking
>> something else)
>>
>> Per
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > whats the beer like up there Per? does it rock?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it's close
>> >> enough going from
>> >>
>> >> Switzerland/Holland for for a beer in Norway! =C2=A0:-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Greetings from Sweden
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Per Boysen
>>
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Hi Andy,
ive been meaning to ask you,can the gordius control the EDP in all aspects,=
midi wise,all virtual midi sustain comands,exp epedals etx. flawlessly? the=
 oiquid foot is very acward to program and still lacks a lot ,but if the go=
rdius does im thinking of asking Xavier if he would consider making me a fl=
at controller and putting the brains in it,im not crazy about the ergonomic=
s of the gordius
cheers
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--- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> schrieb am Mo, 18.1.2010:

> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> Betreff: Re: Foot tamborine
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Datum: Montag, 18. Januar 2010, 3:05
> Ankle Bells,
> as used by indian dancers.
>=20
> On ebay they're called "Belly dance ankle bells".
>=20
> andy
>=20
> L.Angulo wrote:
> > Hi gang,
> > I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he
> had some sort of foot tamborine where he could stomp and
> accompany himself,does anybody know where i can find
> something like this?
> >=20
>=20
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As a beer brewer, home brew is the best hands down. No filtering, no =
pasterization, no cutting back on high quality grains, etc.

Second best, Belgian beer, of course!  :)   Start with Rocherfort =
10....the real king of beers. =20

Kris

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  (Psst Luis.. the beer in Norway is pretty rubbish.. sorry)


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    In Norway? I'm afraid I don't know. Sad to say I'm still working on
    learning to appreciate beer. STill can't stand the taste of it. But =
I
    tend to like people that like beer (even though I prefere drinking
    something else)

    Per



    On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> =
wrote:
    > whats the beer like up there Per? does it rock?
    >
    >
    >> Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it's close
    >> enough going from
    >>
    >> Switzerland/Holland for for a beer in Norway!  :-)
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Greetings from Sweden
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Per Boysen





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I'm not sure how to apologize for an obvious piece of new gear salesmanship,
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Octapad with a phrase loop sampler
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Not necessarily looping instruments, but I thought that the Mungo State Zero
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I&#39;m not sure how to apologize for an obvious piece of new gear salesman=
ship, but of everything out of NAMM this year (viewed from a distance over =
the internet), I was most impressed by the guy doing the demo for the new R=
oland Octapad with a phrase loop sampler<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjhniS_yLAco&amp;feature=3Dplaye=
r_embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjhniS_yLAco&amp;feature=3Dplay=
er_embedded</a><br><br>Not necessarily looping instruments, but I thought t=
hat the Mungo State Zero and Teenage Engineering OP-1 looked cool too.<br>
<br>Any other cool stuff I missed?<br>-- <br>Art Simon<br><a href=3D"mailto=
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good for you,at least you wont turn to be an old beer belly looper;-)
cheers

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--- Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> schrieb am Di, 19.1.2010:

> Von: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> Betreff: Re: Virtual beer (Re: Trying software again.. YIKES!!!)
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Datum: Dienstag, 19. Januar 2010, 15:31
> In Norway? I'm afraid I don't know.
> Sad to say I'm still working on
> learning to appreciate beer. STill can't stand the taste of
> it. But I
> tend to like people that like beer (even though I prefere
> drinking
> something else)
>=20
> Per
>=20
>=20
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > whats the beer like up there Per? does it rock?
> >
> >
> >> Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it's
> close
> >> enough going from
> >>
> >> Switzerland/Holland for for a beer in Norway!
> =A0:-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Greetings from Sweden
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Per Boysen
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Belgian beer is great but i must admit that the Czechs can dance with their=
 beers
though a good creamy Irish Guiness is also hard to beat
cheers
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--- Krispen Hartung <khartung@q.com> schrieb am Di, 19.1.2010:

> Von: Krispen Hartung <khartung@q.com>
> Betreff: Re: Virtual beer (Re: Trying software again.. YIKES!!!)
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Datum: Dienstag, 19. Januar 2010, 15:42
>=20
>=20
> =20
> =20
>=20
>=20
> =20
> As a beer brewer, home
> brew is the best hands down.=20
> No filtering, no pasterization, no cutting back on high
> quality grains,=20
> etc.
> =A0
> Second best, Belgian beer,
> of course!=A0=20
> :)=A0=A0 Start with Rocherfort 10....the real king of
> beers.=A0=20
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> =A0
> Kris
> =A0
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>   ----- Original Message
> -----=20
>  =20
> =A0(Psst=20
>   Luis.. the beer in Norway is pretty rubbish.. sorry)
>=20
>=20
>   On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:31
> AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
>=20
> wrote:
>=20
>   In=20
>     Norway? I'm afraid I don't know. Sad to say
> I'm still working on
> learning=20
>     to appreciate beer. STill can't stand the taste of
> it. But I
> tend to like=20
>     people that like beer (even though I prefere drinking
> something=20
>     else)
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> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
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>     whats the beer like up there Per? does it rock?
> >
> >
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>     Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it's
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well I am sure I can find the sparkling wit on this forum=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___=
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I love this thing. Used it during my set in Santa Cruz.	
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> I noticed there is a bug where the default minimum and maximum
> tempos after an install are both 20 which isn't very useful, the
> default maximum should be 200.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Well I wouldnt call it a bug, more like an "industrial music feature" ..
but you are right, its WAS what tripped me up for about 20 minutes.. till I
posted to LD...

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I noticed there is a bug where the default minimum and maximum<br>
tempos after an install are both 20 which isn&#39;t very useful, the<br>
default maximum should be 200.<br>
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<br></font></blockquote><div>Well I wouldnt call it a bug, more like an &qu=
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Solo Performance Looper Suggestions?

LoopNoob Guitarist with basic needs:

* has to split loop verse_chorus first half
of song - quality playback a must.

Are loopers inserted pre floor effects or
post?

I'm Marshall BluesBreaker & Sound City tour120
& Leslie 145 cabinet using very few basic effects:

FuzzBoxx
Chorus
Repeater
Delay
Echo


thanks.

nogg







On 1/19/2010 4:43 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:
> Subject:
> Re: boomerang lll
> From:
> Mark McGlinchey <markmcglinchey@gmail.com>
> Date:
> Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:52:32 +0000
>
> To:
> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
> As far as I am aware there is no plans for midi sync capabilities, the
> midi port is there soley for updating and sync with other Rang IIIs. I
> could be wrong. It is a great looper, I use mine live in a
> indie/alternative band context and the ease of use makes it ideal for
> that purpose. I would say however until the more powerful features are
> implemented there may be better options for use in a solo performance.
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:37 PM, marcus<nrvana8775@gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> >   From what I have read, MIDI clock sync in has still not been implemented
>> >  yet, right?
>> >
>> >  How hard is it to control the individual loops? I have an echoplex, but I
>> >  much prefer the GUI and multi-loop function of sooperlooper. I'd also like
>> >  the ability to pan each loop separately.
>> >
>>      


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Solo Performance Looper Suggestions?<br>
<br>
LoopNoob Guitarist with basic needs:<br>
<br>
* has to split loop verse_chorus first half<br>
of song - quality playback a must.<br>
<br>
Are loopers inserted pre floor effects or<br>
post?<br>
<br>
I'm Marshall BluesBreaker &amp; Sound City tour120<br>
&amp; Leslie 145 cabinet using very few basic effects:<br>
<br>
FuzzBoxx<br>
Chorus<br>
Repeater<br>
Delay<br>
Echo<br>
<br>
<br>
thanks.<br>
<br>
nogg<br>
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  <pre wrap="">As far as I am aware there is no plans for midi sync capabilities, the
midi port is there soley for updating and sync with other Rang IIIs. I
could be wrong. It is a great looper, I use mine live in a
indie/alternative band context and the ease of use makes it ideal for
that purpose. I would say however until the more powerful features are
implemented there may be better options for use in a solo performance.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:37 PM, marcus <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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    <pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">&gt; </span>From what I have read, MIDI clock sync in has still not been implemented
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">&gt; </span>yet, right?
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">&gt;</span>
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">&gt; </span>How hard is it to control the individual loops? I have an echoplex, but I
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">&gt; </span>much prefer the GUI and multi-loop function of sooperlooper. I'd also like
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">&gt; </span>the ability to pan each loop separately.
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Hi Luis,
yes,
the LG range can easily do that.

The LG range is based on a small LG module
which can on it's own give advanced functionality to another controller,
or can be fitted into a larger unit with buttons.

afaik Xavier doesn't build, or modify, metal boxes himself, so It's not
easy for him to do customised pedal shapes,
however you could always:-

a) ask him to give you a price for your dream machine, keeping in mind
   it's probably a high expense for him to get a custom box made...if it's
    even possible.
b) ask Xavier to provide a module with appropriate electronics (and switches), and then
   get it fitted into your ideal pedal.

So..what's the ergonomic advantage of the flat pedal.

andy


L.Angulo wrote:
> Hi Andy,
> ive been meaning to ask you,can the gordius control the EDP in all aspects,midi wise,all virtual midi sustain 
> comands,exp epedals etx. flawlessly? 
> the oiquid foot is very acward to program and still lacks a lot ,
> but if the gordius does im thinking of asking Xavier if he would 
> consider making me a flat controller and putting the brains in it,
> im not crazy about the ergonomics of the gordius
>> cheers


> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
> 
> 
> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> schrieb am Mo, 18.1.2010:
> 
>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> Betreff: Re: Foot tamborine
>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Datum: Montag, 18. Januar 2010, 3:05
>> Ankle Bells,
>> as used by indian dancers.
>>
>> On ebay they're called "Belly dance ankle bells".
>>
>> andy
>>
>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>> Hi gang,
>>> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar and he
>> had some sort of foot tamborine where he could stomp and
>> accompany himself,does anybody know where i can find
>> something like this?
>>
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Hi Nogg

I would say the best deal currently is the Line 6 M9

it has  lots of stompbox models that can be routed pre o post loop ( mainly=
 you will want pre) it has good loop time and quality and the all important=
 feature of undo / redo this lets you do a basic loop for your verses then =
add some more loops for the chorus refrain then switch between the two on t=
he fly.

Phill MyOneManBand

Date: Wed=2C 20 Jan 2010 04:00:50 -0500
From: brien.tourville@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Solo Performance






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Solo Performance Looper Suggestions?



LoopNoob Guitarist with basic needs:



* has to split loop verse_chorus first half

of song - quality playback a must.



Are loopers inserted pre floor effects or

post?



I'm Marshall BluesBreaker & Sound City tour120

& Leslie 145 cabinet using very few basic effects:



FuzzBoxx

Chorus

Repeater

Delay

Echo





thanks.



nogg















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midi port is there soley for updating and sync with other Rang IIIs. I
could be wrong. It is a great looper=2C I use mine live in a
indie/alternative band context and the ease of use makes it ideal for
that purpose. I would say however until the more powerful features are
implemented there may be better options for use in a solo performance.

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Hi Nogg<br><br>I would say the best deal currently is the Line 6 M9<br><br>=
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portant feature of undo / redo this lets you do a basic loop for your verse=
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e: Wed=2C 20 Jan 2010 04:00:50 -0500<br>From: brien.tourville@gmail.com<br>=
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<br>
Solo Performance Looper Suggestions?<br>
<br>
LoopNoob Guitarist with basic needs:<br>
<br>
* has to split loop verse_chorus first half<br>
of song - quality playback a must.<br>
<br>
Are loopers inserted pre floor effects or<br>
post?<br>
<br>
I'm Marshall BluesBreaker &amp=3B Sound City tour120<br>
&amp=3B Leslie 145 cabinet using very few basic effects:<br>
<br>
FuzzBoxx<br>
Chorus<br>
Repeater<br>
Delay<br>
Echo<br>
<br>
<br>
thanks.<br>
<br>
nogg<br>
<br>
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. I<br>could be wrong. It is a great looper=2C I use mine live in a<br>indi=
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nted there may be better options for use in a solo performance.<br><br>On T=
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ex=2C but I<br><span class=3D"ecxmoz-txt-citetags">&gt=3B </span>much prefe=
r the GUI and multi-loop function of sooperlooper. I'd also like<br><span c=
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>> I noticed there is a bug where the default minimum and maximum
>> tempos after an install are both 20 which isn't very useful, the
>> default maximum should be 200.
>>
>> Jeff
>>

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:25 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

> Well I wouldnt call it a bug, more like an "industrial music feature" ..


Like the concept of minimal - applied to tempo range!!! ;-)

Koan: "Play the groove between 20 BPM and 20 BPM!"

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Maybe I ll take you up on it I have me=
aning to discover the Norsk lands<br>And the strange inhabitants of those l=
ands<br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 19, 2010, at 10:52 PM, mar=
k francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancomb=
e.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Os=
lo.. sorry.. nearly as expensive beer Im afraid!<br><br><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:51 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:antonyhequet@yahoo.com"><a href=3D"mailto:antonyhequet@yahoo.co=
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ial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div>where is the pub I need to=
 come down to in order to hear about the UN job-)<br>=0A=0AI live in Geneva=
 and will be performing some poetry in the poet circle there, you caught my=
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<a href=3D"http://www.antonyhequet.com" target=3D"_blank"><a href=3D"http:/=
/www.antonyhequet.com">www.antonyhequet.com</a></a></span><br>=0A=0A<span><=
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n.<br><br>Is anyone here using AudioMulch as a host for Mobius?<br>=0A=0A=
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Hi,

for a guy at another forum I am looking for someone in Hamburg, Germany, 
who owns an Electrix Repeater and would offer him the opportunity to 
check it out, whether it suits his requirements.

Please reply offlist direct to me.

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Luis,
I would be interested in a flat model too. I don't what it would cost
to build a flat model but I have seen the inside of an LG myself when
I was at the Gordius factory and the inside cabling didn't look too
complex. But perhaps Xavier has more info for us weather it would be
possible to use a custom housing + the standard LG switches and
cabling + LG module.

Btw: If you want, I can demo the LG when you're in Antwerp.
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(Sorry if this gets posted twice. I tried yesterday and it seems to have
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Sorry if this has already been posted, but wanted to point out a vid 
done at NAMM of Bill Walker demonstrating some features of the new 
Looperlative LP2. I'm not quite clear if he's using a rack LP1 to show 
the features the units have in common (I'd have liked to see the process 
of changing efx on the LP2 itself), but at any rate, great playing and 
super-cool effects. I  never quite understood how replace worked before.

http://www.guitarplayer.com/GearVideo.aspx?bctid=62234662001

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The LP 2 seems to be quite interesting although what Bill Walker comments 
with "replacing a fragment"-function, isn´t that spectacular. you can 
already find
it with the Boss RC 50. There it´s called: "Momentary
Punch in". With the RC 50 you have 3 recording functions: Overdub, Replace 
(the whole phrase), Momentary Punch in (just a section will be 
replace,depending how long you press the pedal)
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> Sorry if this has already been posted, but wanted to point out a vid done 
> at NAMM of Bill Walker demonstrating some features of the new Looperlative 
> LP2. I'm not quite clear if he's using a rack LP1 to show the features the 
> units have in common (I'd have liked to see the process of changing efx on 
> the LP2 itself), but at any rate, great playing and super-cool effects. I 
> never quite understood how replace worked before.
>
> http://www.guitarplayer.com/GearVideo.aspx?bctid=62234662001
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> 

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I like AASS JuleOel, quite tasty Christmas beer with a mighty kick.....




________________________________
From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
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Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 6:34:01 PM
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(Psst Luis.. the beer in Norway is pretty rubbish.. sorry)


On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

In Norway? I'm afraid I don't know. Sad to say I'm still working on
>>learning to appreciate beer. STill can't stand the taste of it. But I
>>tend to like people that like beer (even though I prefere drinking
>>something else)
>
>>Per
>
>
>
>>On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> whats the beer like up there Per? does it rock?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it's close
>>>> enough going from
>>>>
>>>> Switzerland/Holland for for a beer in Norway!  :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Per Boysen
>
>


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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>I like AASS JuleOel, quite tasty Christmas beer with a mighty kick.....<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> mark francombe &lt;mark@markfrancombe.com&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, January 19, 2010 6:34:01 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Virtual beer (Re: Trying software again.. YIKES!!!)<br></font><br>
(Psst Luis.. the beer in Norway is pretty rubbish.. sorry)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Per Boysen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">In Norway? I'm afraid I don't know. Sad to say I'm still working on<br>
learning to appreciate beer. STill can't stand the taste of it. But I<br>
tend to like people that like beer (even though I prefere drinking<br>
something else)<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Per<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, L.Angulo &lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com">labaloops@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; whats the beer like up there Per? does it rock?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Guys, you must be thirsty... if you think it's close<br>
&gt;&gt; enough going from<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Switzerland/Holland for for a beer in Norway! &nbsp;:-)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Greetings from Sweden<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Per Boysen<br>
<br>
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That's good to know. The LP2 seems to have a different approach, basing
it on musical values - 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, etc - rather than a pedal press.
I'm not quite entirely how it works, but I'm guessing it's set up this
way to make it easy to create precise rhythms from the replaced fragments.

Daryl Shawn
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> The LP 2 seems to be quite interesting although what Bill Walker 
> comments with "replacing a fragment"-function, isn´t that spectacular. 
> you can already find
> it with the Boss RC 50. There it´s called: "Momentary
> Punch in". With the RC 50 you have 3 recording functions: Overdub, 
> Replace (the whole phrase), Momentary Punch in (just a section will be 
> replace,depending how long you press the pedal)
> www.christojota.de
> www.myspace.com/christojota


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Daryl's right.

Actually the point is that the replace is not only
quantised, but also it performs a replace of just one 
beat for any short press of the pedal.
Very different in effect to the momentary punch in
as it creates a regular rhythm.

You're right that it's not a new idea though ;-)
I first used it back in 2003.



andy butler



chris@christojota.de wrote:
> The LP 2 seems to be quite interesting although what Bill Walker 
> comments with "replacing a fragment"-function, isn´t that spectacular. 
> you can already find
> it with the Boss RC 50. There it´s called: "Momentary
> Punch in". With the RC 50 you have 3 recording functions: Overdub, 
> Replace (the whole phrase), Momentary Punch in (just a section will be 
> replace,depending how long you press the pedal)
> www.christojota.de
> www.myspace.com/christojota

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Quite impressive, looks like I'd bettersave my pennies.  That guitar was so=
mething else, I dig the mini humbuckers.

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

> From: Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>
> Subject: Bill Walker LP-2 demo
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 9:39 AM
> Sorry if this has already been
> posted, but wanted to point out a vid done at NAMM of Bill
> Walker demonstrating some features of the new Looperlative
> LP2. I'm not quite clear if he's using a rack LP1 to show
> the features the units have in common (I'd have liked to see
> the process of changing efx on the LP2 itself), but at any
> rate, great playing and super-cool effects. I=A0 never
> quite understood how replace worked before.
>=20
> http://www.guitarplayer.com/GearVideo.aspx?bctid=3D62234662001
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> Daryl Shawn
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> =0A=0A=0A      

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Fantastic playing, Bill!!!
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yes the biggest advantage would be to be able to fit it in my pedalboard;-)=
=0AThe liquid foot Jr. fits perfect such a simple enclosure=0Ayou can see i=
t here=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHw6mlLt-fvg=0Abut Jeff the creato=
r seems to be very concetrated to primarily make it compatible with the Axe=
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ngulocom=0A=0A=0A--- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> schrieb am Mi, 20=
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gordius little giant=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum:=
 Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010, 1:46=0A> Hi Luis,=0A> yes,=0A> the LG range can=
 easily do that.=0A> =0A> The LG range is based on a small LG module=0A> wh=
ich can on it's own give advanced functionality to=0A> another controller,=
=0A> or can be fitted into a larger unit with buttons.=0A> =0A> afaik Xavie=
r doesn't build, or modify, metal boxes himself,=0A> so It's not=0A> easy f=
or him to do customised pedal shapes,=0A> however you could always:-=0A> =
=0A> a) ask him to give you a price for your dream machine,=0A> keeping in =
mind=0A> =A0 it's probably a high expense for him to get a custom=0A> box m=
ade...if it's=0A> =A0=A0=A0even possible.=0A> b) ask Xavier to provide a mo=
dule with appropriate=0A> electronics (and switches), and then=0A> =A0 get =
it fitted into your ideal pedal.=0A> =0A> So..what's the ergonomic advantag=
e of the flat pedal.=0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> > Hi A=
ndy,=0A> > ive been meaning to ask you,can the gordius control=0A> the EDP =
in all aspects,midi wise,all virtual midi sustain=0A> comands,exp epedals e=
tx. flawlessly? the oiquid foot is very=0A> acward to program and still lac=
ks a lot ,=0A> > but if the gordius does im thinking of asking Xavier=0A> i=
f he would consider making me a flat controller and putting=0A> the brains =
in it,=0A> > im not crazy about the ergonomics of the gordius=0A> >> cheers=
=0A> =0A> =0A> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > --- andy=
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=0A> >> andy=0A> >> =0A> >> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>> Hi gang,=0A> >>> I once=
 saw a guy in the streets playing guitar=0A> and he=0A> >> had some sort of=
 foot tamborine where he could=0A> stomp and=0A> >> accompany himself,does =
anybody know where i can=0A> find=0A> >> something like this?=0A> >> =0A> >=
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is the LP1 being phased out of production now in favor of the LP2?


      
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  Ok y'all, I'll try to respond to everyone at once,
       Daryl, the reason I didn't demo on the LP-2 was because Barry  
Cleveland surprised me by asking that I do a short clinic on looping,  
and I wanted to accommodate him and also be in my comfort zone , as I  
had no chance whatsoever to work with the Lp-2 before this video was  
shot on Saturday, that's how down to the wire we were with the  
prototypes.   I'll post some stuff to Youtube soon.
       Chris, as Andy pointed out, Quantize replace is a different  
animal than momentary replace, though I suppose one could achieve  
similar results . On the LP-1 which I was demoing using quantize  
replace, you can very the factor from 1, which would replace the whole  
loop, up to a factor 128 which would divide the loop in to 128 equal  
parts, and only replace 1 of those parts when ever you engaged  
quantize replace, I was creating short loops and replacing with a  
factor of 16. On the LP-2 there are a handful of preset quantize  
replace functions including some odd meter sub divisions, as Rick  
mentioned previously, which which were culled from the LP-1.
       Andy, Yes I've seen you use quantize replace using the EDP  
before at the Henry Miller library in Big Sur, among other prestigious  
locals. Seeing both you and Andre LaFosse use it so masterfully, is  
what made me shy away from using it in the first place (as in, holy  
shit they do it so well, must avoid risk of being compared)  when Rick  
first  informed me that it was being added to the LP-1's feature set.   
Having been a Repeater user before the LP-1 came along, it wasn't till  
recently that I tried using it and started to understand its  
potential. Like other "play the machine"  type techniques, its yet  
another interesting strategy that can stimulate happy accidents and  
spontaneous creative inspiration. I'm digging it and trying to use it  
in my own way.
       Brian, thanks the Lp-2 will be a cool machine. I Love mini  
humbuckers, fatter than single coils but not as  tubby sounding as  
standard humbuckers, The guitar is a parts o caster, the body was  
originally a hideous blue color that I bought from Warmoth several  
years ago and stripped to reveal a nice quilted maple top over a  
chambered swamp ash body, The body itself weighed under 3 pounds. The  
neck, also Warmoth is a year old and is a fat back profile with lovely  
flame maple. I like big necks on light bodies. Kind of like my taste  
in gymnasts. There is three-way switch and a multi throw dual switch  
designed by Kent Armstrong available through WD  that engages series/ 
parallel and splits on both pickups as well as providing a kill switch  
when in the center position and the neck pickup is engaged, cool for  
stutter effects.
      Charles, Thanks for the kind words,   Because there was so much  
back ground noise where our booth was,  I wasn't aware I was shouting  
in to the mic. I did a lot of shouting at NAMM!!

  On another topic I did a video of my own  at Keith McMillen's booth  
of their new usb  foot controller which they had working to the point  
of being able to see its Computer graphics behave on screen but not  
much in the way of a real world demo, The XYZ axis functionality of  
the soft pads is very intriguing but also seems capable  of  false  
triggering issues with a heavy handed foot, and the multi- tasking  
possibilities make my head spin. Also a lack of a raised tier for the  
second row of switches seems to also spell some potential for false  
triggering of front row switches. The fact that it only has one  
expression pedal input and an 1/8th inch one at that was a bit  
annoying. Anyone know of a commercially available expression pedal  
that uses and 1/8th inch trs jack? I didn't think so. The midi port is  
an option, not built in to the unit. The thing is so sleek and slim  
and light weight and uber powerful, so the afore mentioned gripes  
aside its pretty vast. Talk about too many choices, one could be  
simultaneously commanding Abelton and a Video program with this thing  
without breaking a sweat, but it would seem to demand a steep learning  
curve and some serious foot finesse. I'll post the vid at some point  
if people really want to see it but I'm busy right now and its not a  
high priority. PS Hey Zoe how do you like the K-bow? Now that seems  
like a really cool device and makes me want to save my shekels for one  
and a Togaman viol-guitar, or just get the K-bow and go all Jimmy Page  
on my tele BooYah!
  Bill

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i just couldn't take my eyes off of the SEXY guitar player.....what was=20
he demoing?.....:)m




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Hi all,

This week Edgetone Records is releasing my new cd "Living Things".
It's currently available at Amazon.com, Itunes and Emusic. You can
also order the physical disc here:
http://www.edgetonerecords.com/catalog/4097.html

This is my third cd of music for solo drum machine. This one's a
little different from Bwoo and SoftWetFish. It's more musical, and
there's a definite organic theme across the tracks. It's less about
creating unusual sounds with a drum machine, and more about doing
things with those sounds.

I hope you'll like it.

-- 
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
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Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

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Wait - what if someone doesn't want a regular rhythm?

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:35 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrot=
e:
> Daryl's right.
>
> Actually the point is that the replace is not only
> quantised, but also it performs a replace of just one beat for any short
> press of the pedal.
> Very different in effect to the momentary punch in
> as it creates a regular rhythm.
>
> You're right that it's not a new idea though ;-)
> I first used it back in 2003.
>
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>
> andy butler
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>
> chris@christojota.de wrote:
>>
>> The LP 2 seems to be quite interesting although what Bill Walker comment=
s
>> with "replacing a fragment"-function, isn=B4t that spectacular. you can
>> already find
>> it with the Boss RC 50. There it=B4s called: "Momentary
>> Punch in". With the RC 50 you have 3 recording functions: Overdub, Repla=
ce
>> (the whole phrase), Momentary Punch in (just a section will be
>> replace,depending how long you press the pedal)
>> www.christojota.de
>> www.myspace.com/christojota
>
>

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Anyone find it odd that with all the midi controllers flooding the =
market, foot controllers seem to be the one piece of gear the industry =
has ignored? This is like the 7th Namm show where I expected a great new =
foot controller. I know Zoe posted that one unit. But It seems weird =
that Novation, Akai or M Audio hasn't stepped up.=20



On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:37 PM, L.Angulo wrote:

> yes the biggest advantage would be to be able to fit it in my =
pedalboard;-)
> The liquid foot Jr. fits perfect such a simple enclosure
> you can see it here
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHw6mlLt-fvg
> but Jeff the creator seems to be very concetrated to primarily make it =
compatible with the Axe-FX and doesnt seem quite interested in doing any =
updates to make it work with the EDP...what is frustrating is that the =
LF jr. is about 450.00dlls and the FCB1010 can do more as far as =
controlling the EDP;-)
> but offcourse id have to ask Xavier what that would cost
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>=20
>=20
> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> schrieb am Mi, 20.1.2010:
>=20
>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> Betreff: Re: gordius little giant
>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Datum: Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010, 1:46
>> Hi Luis,
>> yes,
>> the LG range can easily do that.
>>=20
>> The LG range is based on a small LG module
>> which can on it's own give advanced functionality to
>> another controller,
>> or can be fitted into a larger unit with buttons.
>>=20
>> afaik Xavier doesn't build, or modify, metal boxes himself,
>> so It's not
>> easy for him to do customised pedal shapes,
>> however you could always:-
>>=20
>> a) ask him to give you a price for your dream machine,
>> keeping in mind
>>   it's probably a high expense for him to get a custom
>> box made...if it's
>>    even possible.
>> b) ask Xavier to provide a module with appropriate
>> electronics (and switches), and then
>>   get it fitted into your ideal pedal.
>>=20
>> So..what's the ergonomic advantage of the flat pedal.
>>=20
>> andy
>>=20
>>=20
>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>> Hi Andy,
>>> ive been meaning to ask you,can the gordius control
>> the EDP in all aspects,midi wise,all virtual midi sustain
>> comands,exp epedals etx. flawlessly? the oiquid foot is very
>> acward to program and still lacks a lot ,
>>> but if the gordius does im thinking of asking Xavier
>> if he would consider making me a flat controller and putting
>> the brains in it,
>>> im not crazy about the ergonomics of the gordius
>>>> cheers
>>=20
>>=20
>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> schrieb am Mo, 18.1.2010:
>>>=20
>>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>> Betreff: Re: Foot tamborine
>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>> Datum: Montag, 18. Januar 2010, 3:05
>>>> Ankle Bells,
>>>> as used by indian dancers.
>>>>=20
>>>> On ebay they're called "Belly dance ankle bells".
>>>>=20
>>>> andy
>>>>=20
>>>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>>>> Hi gang,
>>>>> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar
>> and he
>>>> had some sort of foot tamborine where he could
>> stomp and
>>>> accompany himself,does anybody know where i can
>> find
>>>> something like this?
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> __________________________________________________
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>>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen
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Thanks Bill!

I thoroughly enjoyed the demo.

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Thanks Bill!<br><br>I thoroughly enjoyed the demo.<br><br>-- <br>Art Simon<br><a href="mailto:simart@gmail.com">simart@gmail.com</a><br>myspace [dot] com/artsimon<br>

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I've always thought it odd that there is so little activity in the =20
foot control domain...because I keep meeting musicians who need more =20
what's out there.

I've got my hope's pinned on Keith McMillan's pedal...but I haven't =20
heard anything else about it. They're certainly doing a good job at =20
keeping it under wraps, for whatever reason.

On Jan 20, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:

> Anyone find it odd that with all the midi controllers flooding the =20
> market, foot controllers seem to be the one piece of gear the =20
> industry has ignored? This is like the 7th Namm show where I =20
> expected a great new foot controller. I know Zoe posted that one =20
> unit. But It seems weird that Novation, Akai or M Audio hasn't =20
> stepped up.
>
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:37 PM, L.Angulo wrote:
>
>> yes the biggest advantage would be to be able to fit it in my =20
>> pedalboard;-)
>> The liquid foot Jr. fits perfect such a simple enclosure
>> you can see it here
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHw6mlLt-fvg
>> but Jeff the creator seems to be very concetrated to primarily make =20=

>> it compatible with the Axe-FX and doesnt seem quite interested in =20
>> doing any updates to make it work with the EDP...what is =20
>> frustrating is that the LF jr. is about 450.00dlls and the FCB1010 =20=

>> can do more as far as controlling the EDP;-)
>> but offcourse id have to ask Xavier what that would cost
>> cheers
>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>
>>
>> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> schrieb am Mi, 20.1.2010:
>>
>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>> Betreff: Re: gordius little giant
>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> Datum: Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010, 1:46
>>> Hi Luis,
>>> yes,
>>> the LG range can easily do that.
>>>
>>> The LG range is based on a small LG module
>>> which can on it's own give advanced functionality to
>>> another controller,
>>> or can be fitted into a larger unit with buttons.
>>>
>>> afaik Xavier doesn't build, or modify, metal boxes himself,
>>> so It's not
>>> easy for him to do customised pedal shapes,
>>> however you could always:-
>>>
>>> a) ask him to give you a price for your dream machine,
>>> keeping in mind
>>>  it's probably a high expense for him to get a custom
>>> box made...if it's
>>>   even possible.
>>> b) ask Xavier to provide a module with appropriate
>>> electronics (and switches), and then
>>>  get it fitted into your ideal pedal.
>>>
>>> So..what's the ergonomic advantage of the flat pedal.
>>>
>>> andy
>>>
>>>
>>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>> ive been meaning to ask you,can the gordius control
>>> the EDP in all aspects,midi wise,all virtual midi sustain
>>> comands,exp epedals etx. flawlessly? the oiquid foot is very
>>> acward to program and still lacks a lot ,
>>>> but if the gordius does im thinking of asking Xavier
>>> if he would consider making me a flat controller and putting
>>> the brains in it,
>>>> im not crazy about the ergonomics of the gordius
>>>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>> schrieb am Mo, 18.1.2010:
>>>>
>>>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>>> Betreff: Re: Foot tamborine
>>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>> Datum: Montag, 18. Januar 2010, 3:05
>>>>> Ankle Bells,
>>>>> as used by indian dancers.
>>>>>
>>>>> On ebay they're called "Belly dance ankle bells".
>>>>>
>>>>> andy
>>>>>
>>>>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>>>>> Hi gang,
>>>>>> I once saw a guy in the streets playing guitar
>>> and he
>>>>> had some sort of foot tamborine where he could
>>> stomp and
>>>>> accompany himself,does anybody know where i can
>>> find
>>>>> something like this?
>>>>>
>>>>
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Subject: Re: New CD: Matt Davignon "Living Things"
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Downloaded and listening now Matt, organic is a good term I think, very 
musical also. Thanks, I dig it!
Makes me want to dig out my Boss DR 670 that I never learned to program :)

peace,

Jeff


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Subject: New CD: Matt Davignon "Living Things"


> Hi all,
>
> This week Edgetone Records is releasing my new cd "Living Things".
> It's currently available at Amazon.com, Itunes and Emusic. You can
> also order the physical disc here:
> http://www.edgetonerecords.com/catalog/4097.html
>
> This is my third cd of music for solo drum machine. This one's a
> little different from Bwoo and SoftWetFish. It's more musical, and
> there's a definite organic theme across the tracks. It's less about
> creating unusual sounds with a drum machine, and more about doing
> things with those sounds.
>
> I hope you'll like it.
>
> -- 
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>
> 

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<pre class="style24"><span class="style26">  Caro cliente, 
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<pre class="style24"><span class="style26">  Caro cliente, 
   <br />  Nell'ambito di un progetto di verifica dei dati anagrafici forniti durante<br />  la sottoscrizione dei servizi di <span class="style28">Poste Italiane</span> e stata riscontrata<br />  una incongruenza relativa ai dati anagrafici in oggetto da Lei forniti all<br />  momento della sottoscrizine contrattuale.<br /> <br />  L'inserimento dei dati alterati puo costituire motivo di interruzione di<br />  servizio secondo gli art. 135 e 137/c da Lei accettati al momento della<br />  sottoscrizione, oltre a costituire reato penalmente perseguibile secondo    
  il C.P.P. ar. 415 del 2001 relativa alla legge contro il riciclaggio e la<br />  trasparenza dei dati forniti in auto certificazione.<br /> <br />  Per ovviare al problema e necessaria la verifica e l'aggiornamento dei dati<br />  relativi all'anagrafica dell'Intestatario dei servizi <span class="style28">Poste Italiane</span>.<br />  Effettuare l'aggiornamento dei dati cliccando sul seguente collegamento<br />  sicuro:      

  
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Hi Matt,


Depends what you mean by "regular"...
here's some answers 

With the LP2, LP1 you can still make irregular sounding loops
by setting the number of divisions higher, or setting it
to an irregular number, or varying the number of loop divisions
as you do the replacing.



with LP2 (and LP1) I don't think you can do this, but:-

my EDP loop4 technique to produce an irregular rhythm is 
to first create the loop full of replaced 8th Notes.

Then spend some time dropping in some more 8th notes, gradually
varying the loop.

Then multiply the loop (say 8x, but whatever).

Then hit Undo to go into loop windowing.

After that, you what you hear is the original loop changing
irregularly on each repeat. (mostly you're hearing it's development
one step at a time)


On the LP2 there isn't, as far as I know, a way to do UnQuantised
Replace, but I expect it's possible to get close enough to that
by using a large number of divisions.


Anyway, I think all the fun is in the way the irregular somewhat
random patterns turn suddenly into regular ones, 
you must have seen Rick do that.

andy butler


Matt Davignon wrote:
> Wait - what if someone doesn't want a regular rhythm?
> 
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:35 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> Daryl's right.
>>
>> Actually the point is that the replace is not only
>> quantised, but also it performs a replace of just one beat for any short
>> press of the pedal.
>> Very different in effect to the momentary punch in
>> as it creates a regular rhythm.
>>
>> You're right that it's not a new idea though ;-)
>> I first used it back in 2003.
>>
>>
>>
>> andy butler
>>
>>
>>
>> chris@christojota.de wrote:
>>> The LP 2 seems to be quite interesting although what Bill Walker comments
>>> with "replacing a fragment"-function, isn´t that spectacular. you can
>>> already find
>>> it with the Boss RC 50. There it´s called: "Momentary
>>> Punch in". With the RC 50 you have 3 recording functions: Overdub, Replace
>>> (the whole phrase), Momentary Punch in (just a section will be
>>> replace,depending how long you press the pedal)
>>> www.christojota.de
>>> www.myspace.com/christojota
>>
> 
> 

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wow-bill that was quite a demo, very cool to see that and you in action.
some great stuff and great playing
LOVE YOUR GUITAR! and shit watching you tap dance on your pedals, that
looks way out of my league, i think i like simple and dumb stuff, but you made it
look easy.
thanks for doing, for GP for posting that, and whoever made me aware of that!
most enjoyable!
and lastly-GREAT SOUNDS...
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen




      
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">wow-bill that was quite a demo, very cool to see that and you in action.<br>some great stuff and great playing<br>LOVE YOUR GUITAR! and shit watching you tap dance on your pedals, that<br>looks way out of my league, i think i like simple and dumb stuff, but you made it<br>look easy.<br>thanks for doing, for GP for posting that, and whoever made me aware of that!<br>most enjoyable!<br>and lastly-GREAT SOUNDS...<br>s---<br>www.myspace.com/scotthansen<br><br></td></tr></table><br>

      
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"Living Things" is a great title for that music. Haven't heard the CD yet
but I assume it sounds like the stuff that you did during Y2K9, e.g. in San
Francisco. I really liked those textures and structures.

-Michael

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it is great indeed!

 when is it going to be available?

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:26 PM, scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> wrote:

> wow-bill that was quite a demo, very cool to see that and you in action.
> some great stuff and great playing
> LOVE YOUR GUITAR! and shit watching you tap dance on your pedals, that
> looks way out of my league, i think i like simple and dumb stuff, but you
> made it
> look easy.
> thanks for doing, for GP for posting that, and whoever made me aware of
> that!
> most enjoyable!
> and lastly-GREAT SOUNDS...
> s---
> www.myspace.com/scotthansen
>
>
>

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it is great indeed!<br><br>=A0when is it going to be available?<br><br><div=
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Holy Toledo Matt!

Very different!  I like it.  (Sculpted by Erosion I think it was)

Now, I've owned many drum machines, starting with the old LinnDrum and  
TR808... and ain't NONE of my drum machines sounded like THAT!

keep it up

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On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Matt Davignon wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This week Edgetone Records is releasing my new cd "Living Things".
> It's currently available at Amazon.com, Itunes and Emusic. You can
> also order the physical disc here:
> http://www.edgetonerecords.com/catalog/4097.html
>
> This is my third cd of music for solo drum machine. This one's a
> little different from Bwoo and SoftWetFish. It's more musical, and
> there's a definite organic theme across the tracks. It's less about
> creating unusual sounds with a drum machine, and more about doing
> things with those sounds.
>
> I hope you'll like it.
>
> -- 
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
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url please?  Subsequent posts have alas deleted the url containing the =
vid you all like so well!


From: scott hansen=20
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:26 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Subject: bill walker: LP-2 demo (namm thing)


      wow-bill that was quite a demo, very cool to see that and you in =
action.
      some great stuff and great playing
      LOVE YOUR GUITAR! and shit watching you tap dance on your pedals, =
that
      looks way out of my league, i think i like simple and dumb stuff, =
but you made it
      look easy.
      thanks for doing, for GP for posting that, and whoever made me =
aware of that!
      most enjoyable!
      and lastly-GREAT SOUNDS...
      s---
      www.myspace.com/scotthansen

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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:26 PM</DIV>
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enjoyed it, Anders

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Anders Bergdahl <
anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  All that talk of beer made me thirsty, i have a could and can't sleep so I
> poured som Laphroig instead.. mm
> And for the first time in a few mont I had the chance to record something,
> a rather normal looping peice. starting a loop with no sound then just
> handling the guitar to see what happends..
>
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=924516&songID=8636594
>
> (this is also my latest amp, a Dumble stule (mystic Blues) with Marshall
> transformers, I like it a lot)
>
> CHEERS :-)
>



-- 
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com
NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
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enjoyed it, Anders<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 a=
t 6:57 PM, Anders Bergdahl <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:anders_e=
_bergdahl@hotmail.com">anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



<div>
All that talk of beer made me thirsty, i have a could and can&#39;t sleep s=
o I poured som Laphroig instead.. mm<br>
And for the first time in a few mont I had the chance to record something, =
a rather normal looping peice. starting a loop with no sound then just hand=
ling the guitar to see what happends..<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D92451=
6&amp;songID=3D8636594" target=3D"_blank">http://www.soundclick.com/bands/p=
age_songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D924516&amp;songID=3D8636594</a><br>
=A0<br>
(this is also my latest amp, a Dumble stule (mystic Blues) with Marshall tr=
ansformers, I like it a lot)<br>
=A0<br>
CHEERS :-)<br> 		 	   		  </div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.warrensirota.com">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>NEW CD: Loops=
, Live &amp; Otw<br><a href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota">http:=
//www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota</a><br>


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From: Mr Jeff Yukon.

Address: #8 Mitchley Road Tottenham London N17 9HG

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From: Mr Jeff Yukon.<BR>
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Hello=2C<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Very Urgent And Confidential<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Do accept my sincere apologies if my mail does not meet your personal ethic=
s although=2C I wish to use this medium to get in touch with you first beca=
use it's fastest means. I am an extenal auditor of a well known Bank here i=
n the United Kingdom.<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
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 balance of =A3150=2C000.000.00 (One Hundred &amp=3B Fifty Million British =
Pounds) which has not been operated for the past three years. From my inves=
tigations and confirmations=2Cthe owner of this account=2C a foreigner by n=
ame Mr.John Paul Getty died in plane crash in July 19=2C2006 and since then=
 nobody has done anything as regards the claiming of this money because he =
has no family members who are aware of the existence of neither the account=
 nor the funds. I have secretly discussed this matter with a top senior min=
ister official of the federal ministry of finance here and we have agreed t=
o find a reliable foreign partner to deal with us=2C although due to his po=
ssition he did not want to take active part but as soon as you follow my in=
structions everything will be successfull because we will be working hand i=
n hand with him.<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
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&nbsp=3B<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
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mate and does not originate from drug=2C money laundry=2C terrorism or any =
other illegal act.<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
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State &amp=3B Country................<BR>
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&nbsp=3B<BR>
I look forward to hear from you as soon as possible if you are interested.<=
BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is my third cd of music for solo drum machine. This one's a
> little different from Bwoo and SoftWetFish. It's more musical, and
> there's a definite organic theme across the tracks. It's less about
> creating unusual sounds with a drum machine, and more about doing
> things with those sounds.

I was positively surprised about what you got out of a drum machine at
y2k9 :) Well done Matt.

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Thanks all,

I use a Boss Dr. 770, but with a lot of pedals and stuff to change the
sounds. Actually about half the sounds on the disc are originally from
one drum sound - an 808 tom. That's my version of an unaltered guitar
note. I describe my setup in one of the "Rigs" videos on youtube. (The
link is in my signature file.)

"Sculpture by Erosion" is actually from the previous disc.

A useful fact - if you get your cds made as eco-packs instead of jewel
cases, they'll take up only 1/3 as much storage space. They're a lot
lighter too.

--=20
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
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Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

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te:
> Holy Toledo Matt!
> Very different! =A0I like it. =A0(Sculpted by Erosion I think it was)
> Now, I've owned many drum machines, starting with the old LinnDrum and
> TR808... and ain't NONE of my drum machines sounded like THAT!
> keep it up
> richard sales
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Hello Loopers List,

This thread could turn into a complicated philosophical discussion. I aim rather to put your ideas in a box for my students to have a performance criterion/check list of what they should nail on their first electronic music composition based on the simplicity of Reason and "Fair Use" sampling in Protools. It is assumed that they have no previous music knowledge and are forging their way through to try and find a measure of success.  

So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance criteria of a "successful" composition.

 Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
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Quoting margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com>:
>
> Hello Loopers List,
>
> This thread could turn into a complicated philosophical discussion.  =20
> I aim rather to put your ideas in a box for my students to have a  =20
> performance criterion/check list of what they should nail on their  =20
> first electronic music composition based on the simplicity of Reason =20
>  and "Fair Use" sampling in Protools. It is assumed that they have =20
> no  previous music knowledge and are forging their way through to =20
> try  and find a measure of success.
>
> So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance  =20
> criteria of a "successful" composition.
>
>  Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
> Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
> Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
> New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/
>
>
>
A successful composition:

1. Is not overly-repetitive.
2. Starts with a simple idea and builds slowly (in other words, don't =20
play all your best licks in the first minute of the music and leave =20
yourself nowhere to go).
3. Reaches the audience.  (for example, if it is dance music will =20
people actually want to dance with it?)
4. is genuine (that is, it avoids faux-emotion and trite sentimentality)
5. is as effective at moderate volume as it is at loud levels (with =20
the possible exception of dance music that is enhanced by a good, loud =20
beat).

I can think of other, more technical factors, however for a first =20
project I would prefer to encourage their enjoyment and participation =20
in the act of creating music.

This sounds like a wonderful project.  All the best to you and your students=
.

-- Kevin

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Don't emphasize too many rules, instead have them do the following
over a week or two weeks.

1 assign them to listen to something like Sofa by Frank Zappa,
Different Trains by Steve Reich, Adagio for Strings by Samuel Barber,
The Moment at Which You Must Finally Let Go of the Teather that Has
Held Your Hope Airbourn by Will Ackerman, Let the Power Fall by Robert
Fripp and Turn Out the Stars by Bill Evans
2 next day do something fun, anything
3 next day sit down with their instrument of voice, something easy to
reocrd with and for a 30 min play or sing anything that comes into
their head, stop don't listen back
4 next day repeat the above and don't listen back
5 next day sit down with instrument or voice, if your requirement is
notation have them take an assigned key, pick 4 notes and only those 4
notes, compose 32 bars in any time signature they prefer.  At end of
32 bars of melody go back and compose a counter line, do this again
for 3rd and 4th part.  If notation is not required have them do this
by multi channel recording.  Turn in either result to you for
completion of this project.

Jim






On 1/21/10, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
> Quoting margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com>:
>>
>> Hello Loopers List,
>>
>> This thread could turn into a complicated philosophical discussion.
>> I aim rather to put your ideas in a box for my students to have a
>> performance criterion/check list of what they should nail on their
>> first electronic music composition based on the simplicity of Reason
>>  and "Fair Use" sampling in Protools. It is assumed that they have
>> no  previous music knowledge and are forging their way through to
>> try  and find a measure of success.
>>
>> So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance
>> criteria of a "successful" composition.
>>
>>  Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
>> Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
>> Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
>> New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/
>>
>>
>>
> A successful composition:
>
> 1. Is not overly-repetitive.
> 2. Starts with a simple idea and builds slowly (in other words, don't
> play all your best licks in the first minute of the music and leave
> yourself nowhere to go).
> 3. Reaches the audience.  (for example, if it is dance music will
> people actually want to dance with it?)
> 4. is genuine (that is, it avoids faux-emotion and trite sentimentality)
> 5. is as effective at moderate volume as it is at loud levels (with
> the possible exception of dance music that is enhanced by a good, loud
> beat).
>
> I can think of other, more technical factors, however for a first
> project I would prefer to encourage their enjoyment and participation
> in the act of creating music.
>
> This sounds like a wonderful project.  All the best to you and your
> students.
>
> -- Kevin
>
>

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We're remodeling the house, and I have to clear out my studio. I hate  
to keep moving things I'm not using. So, these are a few items I have  
for sale, I'll offer them here before putting them on Ebay.
If there is any interest, I guess contact me offlist so as not to  
bother anyone.


- Rane SM82 Splitter/Mixer
I used it for 3 shows, and then had to get smaller and never used it  
again. Its been sitting in a box in the closet for 3 years.
$250 OBO

- Rocktron MidiMate
Never used, still in its box. I bought it by mistake
$100 OBO

- SWR California Blonde Amp
The pre-fender model...with the attenuator switch. I've had it since  
1998 but it is in great shape. Cello sounds lovely through it, I  
assume guitars do too.
$300 OBO




The other large item in my closet...

- Two Electrix Repeaters, mounted in a 4U Odyssey Rack bag
Yes, the Repeaters that I learned to loop on (and are in all the  
youtube videos of me playing with Imogen Heap on tour in 2006 & 2007 http://bit.ly/5X4mWq)
I've held onto them thinking I might use them again, but I don't know,  
I'm so digital nowadays....
latest OS, noise mod, re-soldered and stronger connections for the  
stereo outs.
I don't know what the going rate is on these.



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1) When sampling, don't depend on the samples themselves to make it a
good song. A listener should get a sense of your creativity, not the
creativity of the people you're sampling.
2) Listen to songs you like, and pay attention to the dynamics - how
adding and subtracting layers creates the energy flow of the song.
3) Small details make a big difference - pay attention to this when
listening to songs you like.
4) The finished song should not sound like a bunch of samples and
loops laid across a grid in multiples of four. Add (or subtract)
little details to make each moment stand out. It's ok to use some
sounds only once.
5) Trim the fat! Seriously consider taking out any part that isn't
excellent or productive to the entire song. An excellent 3 minute
composition is way better than a 5 minute composition where you're
waiting for the good moments to come.


-- 
Matt Davignon
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:03 PM, margaret noble
<margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello Loopers List,
>
> This thread could turn into a complicated philosophical discussion. I aim
> rather to put your ideas in a box for my students to have a performance
> criterion/check list of what they should nail on their first electronic
> music composition based on the simplicity of Reason and "Fair Use" sampling
> in Protools. It is assumed that they have no previous music knowledge and
> are forging their way through to try and find a measure of success.
>
> So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance criteria
> of a "successful" composition.
>
> Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
> Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
> Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
> New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/
>
>
>

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I'm curious - what styles of music are these students interested in?

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> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:03 PM, margaret noble
> <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hello Loopers List,
>>
>> This thread could turn into a complicated philosophical discussion. I aim
>> rather to put your ideas in a box for my students to have a performance
>> criterion/check list of what they should nail on their first electronic
>> music composition based on the simplicity of Reason and "Fair Use" sampling
>> in Protools. It is assumed that they have no previous music knowledge and
>> are forging their way through to try and find a measure of success.
>>
>> So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance criteria
>> of a "successful" composition.
>>
>> Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
>> Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
>> Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
>> New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/
>>
>>
>>
>

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Here it is Stephen: 
http://www.guitarplayer.com/GearVideo.aspx?bctid=62234662001

Ben.

----- Original Message ----- 
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url please?  Subsequent posts have alas deleted the url containing the vid 
you all like so well! 

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>
> So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance criteria
> of a "successful" composition.
>
>

What is a successful composition? Is that what you are asking? As a teacher
I would have thought that you would know that music is all about having
different definitions per person. It fitting your personal taste is what
makes a successful composition.

But to state 5, as per the question, regarding that they are probably just
MY descriptors.

1) It should be overly repetitive (Oops Sorry Kev, but I couldn't resist,
its true though, for me...)
2) It should move you, make your heart beat faster, give you goosebumps,
hairs stand on back of neck.
3) It should sound slightly unlike something else... As in, it CAN be of a
genre, or relate to a genre, but not completely fitting in that genre.
4) Dynamics, dynamics, dynamics. Loud only works when compared to soft.
5) No Saxaphones!


Mark




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riteria of a &quot;successful&quot; composition.<br><div>=A0<br clear=3D"al=
l"></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>What is a successful composition=
? Is that what you are asking? As a teacher I would have thought that you w=
ould know that music is all about having different definitions per person. =
It fitting your personal taste is what makes a successful composition. <br>

<br>But to state 5, as per the question, regarding that they are probably j=
ust MY descriptors.<br><br>1) It should be overly repetitive (Oops Sorry Ke=
v, but I couldn&#39;t resist, its true though, for me...)<br>2) It should m=
ove you, make your heart beat faster, give you goosebumps, hairs stand on b=
ack of neck.<br>

3) It should sound slightly unlike something else... As in, it CAN be of a =
genre, or relate to a genre, but not completely fitting in that genre.<br>4=
) Dynamics, dynamics, dynamics. Loud only works when compared to soft.<br>

5) No Saxaphones!<br><br><br>Mark<br><br><br>=A0</div></div><br>-- <br><a h=
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If I may add my 2 cents...

Ok, first of all, a successful composition can certainly be tagged in a num=
ber of ways, to each his/her own, it=E2=80=99s all about art, etc. etc. etc=
.

Yes, we all know and agree with this.  That being said, the question was in=
 regards to a high school composition class, and regardless of our artistic=
 ego, there are a number of elements that make said composition more or les=
s relevant/interesting/catchy, regardless of if we like or respect the work=
.

As a Berklee graduate and now educator, I'd like to think that the followin=
g elements are vital to a 'successful' compostion:

1) A 'hook' -  every song (we're talking popular, accessible, majority musi=
c here) needs a catchy repeating theme that the listener can come back to. =
 It doesn't have to be 'poppy' or genre specific, but reasonably accessible=
 and at the very least recognizable.=20

2) Regular thematic development- We have our hook, so then what happens?  t=
he song must develop, hopefully in an interesting and engaging manner.  Tha=
t can mean lyrically, melodically, rhythmically... anything.  Now more than=
 ever, songs need to continually evolve and keep attention, in a coherent m=
anner that reflects the composer's emotional narrative.=20

3)  Typically speaking (again, majority music here, there are a TON of exce=
ptions!), melodic lines need some consistency.  This means sticking to a pr=
ogression that has a defined characteristic, whether that be major or minor=
 tonality, a specific mode, or anything that regularly repeats and holds pa=
rticular tonal attention.

4)  To best average by successful, I believe a song must have dynamics, and=
 emotion.  We can all write up a diddy, play it square and call it a day.  =
But songs that move us require true emotion, regardless of medium.=20

5)  Lastly, I would love to say that a successful composition requires orig=
inality, freedom, expression, voice etc.  But, and very unfortunately might=
 I add, this is quite simply not the case.  This is obviously highly depend=
ent on our definition of successful, but there are a number of formula's th=
at work, and we can inject our variations, re-title it, and call it our own=
.  This is a staple in the songwriting business- utilizing bpm, retrograde,=
 inverse melodic ideas etc...  not that i condone this or call it a 'work o=
r art' (in fact, i find it unsettling in many ways), but many a damn good s=
ong has been written this way and i suppose we ought to just accept it.  So=
 lastly, I guess I'll say that a successful composition needs structure.  I=
t can be pre-formulated, or not, emotionally charged or academically config=
ured, but there should be some sort of sense to the over-all picture. =20

*AGAIN*  This is not a complete picture- I regularly strive to break out of=
 these molds, and continue to search for an element to my music that can be=
 heard, appreciated, and listened to again...  because that is the goal, is=
 it not?  We want our music on repeat, whether we would like to admit it or=
 not.  Justification perhaps.

Tom =20
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So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance criteria =
of a "successful" composition.=20




What is a successful composition? Is that what you are asking? As a teacher=
 I would have thought that you would know that music is all about having di=
fferent definitions per person. It fitting your personal taste is what make=
s a successful composition.=20

But to state 5, as per the question, regarding that they are probably just =
MY descriptors.=20

1) It should be overly repetitive (Oops Sorry Kev, but I couldn't resist, i=
ts true though, for me...)=20
2) It should move you, make your heart beat faster, give you goosebumps, ha=
irs stand on back of neck.=20
3) It should sound slightly unlike something else... As in, it CAN be of a =
genre, or relate to a genre, but not completely fitting in that genre.=20
4) Dynamics, dynamics, dynamics. Loud only works when compared to soft.=20
5) No Saxaphones!=20


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I wanted to share a beautiful and inspiring story with everyone
who is interested in reading it.

The only reason I would bring such a ridiculously off topic post
to Loopers Delight is because we have truly  become an international
organization:   one that is spreading the notion of creativity and
community with it's very existence and I truly believe that
this story resonates with our own story and our own history in this
wonderful and creative community.

This is the story of how Martin Luther King kept Lieutenant Uhuru
on the seminal Sci Fi show,  Star Trek during the 60's.

My apologies in advance to anyone that doesn't resonate with this for 
wasting their time.

Here it is.

http://scifiwire.com/2010/01/the-true-story-of-how-dr.php

In this cynical world,  this story, I believe, can give us the courage 
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promote a vision of unity and acceptance of diversity in our own musical 
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sincerely,

Rick Walker

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Yo Tom.. and all..

You said...

>Yes, we all know and agree with this.
But Im not sure that YOU did! Agree I mean? You went on to argue that there
WAS in fact a formula, for all.

>That being said, the question was in regards to a high school composition
class,

Even MORE reason to encourage freedom of expression and personal taste,
instead of setting up a bunch of rules.. A Hook??? What year are we in? Is
it 1964??

>and regardless of our artistic ego,

Ha ha thanks!... I have NO IDEA what an artistic ego is!!! I=B4ll take it a=
s a
compliment!

>there are a number of elements that make said composition more or less
relevant/interesting/catchy, regardless of if we like or respect the work.

No there isnt!!! There are some elements that SELL.. (but that changes with
time and trends) Is that what we want to teach our music students (I think
they know those already)

>As a Berklee graduate and now educator,

As someone who doesnt come from your country, I have no idea what that is
supposed to mean, Berklee (I=B4m assuming you mean Berkley, some university=
 in
.. I dunno SF is it?) Does that fact make you more cleverer than what I is?
I forgot to mention in my post that I am a Portsmouth UK graduate and now
educator...

 >I'd like to think that the following elements are vital to a 'successful'
compostion:

And then you mention a completely relevant and sensible list of points, if
your composition happens to be pop music. A form of music that I regret to
say I have never fully understood, finding it about one step up the artisti=
c
worth ladder from advertising jingles.

Nevertheless an interesting read, and I welcome your post... But drop the
patronising tone please ( a tone that I have adopted in this response for
added effect) we=B4re all friends here...

Mark

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Yo Tom.. and all..<br><br>You said...<br><br>&gt;Yes, we all know and agree=
 with this.=A0 <br>But Im not sure that YOU did! Agree I mean? You went on =
to argue that there WAS in fact a formula, for all.<br><br>&gt;That being s=
aid, the question
was in regards to a high school composition class, <br><br>Even MORE reason=
 to encourage freedom of expression and personal taste, instead of setting =
up a bunch of rules.. A Hook??? What year are we in? Is it 1964??<br><br>

&gt;and regardless of
our artistic ego,<br><br>Ha ha thanks!... I have NO IDEA what an artistic e=
go is!!! I=B4ll take it as a compliment!<br><br>&gt;there are a number of e=
lements that make said
composition more or less relevant/interesting/catchy, regardless of if
we like or respect the work.<br><br>No there isnt!!! There are some element=
s that SELL.. (but that changes with time and trends) Is that what we want =
to teach our music students (I think they know those already)<br>
<br>
&gt;As a Berklee graduate and now educator,<br><br>As someone who doesnt co=
me from your country, I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, Berklee=
 (I=B4m assuming you mean Berkley, some university in .. I dunno SF is it?)=
 Does that fact make you more cleverer than what I is?<br>

I forgot to mention in my post that I am a Portsmouth UK graduate and now e=
ducator...<br><br>=A0&gt;I&#39;d like to think that the following elements =
are vital to a &#39;successful&#39; compostion:<br><br>And then you mention=
 a completely relevant and sensible list of points, if your composition hap=
pens to be pop music. A form of music that I regret to say I have never ful=
ly understood, finding it about one step up the artistic worth ladder from =
advertising jingles.<br>

<br>Nevertheless an interesting read, and I welcome your post... But drop t=
he patronising tone please ( a tone that I have adopted in this response fo=
r added effect) we=B4re all friends here...<br><br>Mark<br><br><br><br><br>

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Thanks for sharing that one Rick.
Never heard it before.
Inspiring.

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On Fri, January 22, 2010 6:46 am, Rick Walker wrote:
> I wanted to share a beautiful and inspiring story with everyone
> who is interested in reading it.
>
> The only reason I would bring such a ridiculously off topic post
> to Loopers Delight is because we have truly  become an international
> organization:   one that is spreading the notion of creativity and
> community with it's very existence and I truly believe that
> this story resonates with our own story and our own history in this
> wonderful and creative community.
>
> This is the story of how Martin Luther King kept Lieutenant Uhuru
> on the seminal Sci Fi show,  Star Trek during the 60's.
>
> My apologies in advance to anyone that doesn't resonate with this for
> wasting their time.
>
> Here it is.
>
> http://scifiwire.com/2010/01/the-true-story-of-how-dr.php
>
> In this cynical world,  this story, I believe, can give us the courage
> to try and
> promote a vision of unity and acceptance of diversity in our own musical
> community.
>
> sincerely,
>
> Rick Walker
>
>





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=A0
When I lead a free improvisation session, I generally get people to focus o=
n two things:
=A0
1) To paraphrase from "Dead Poets Society" (movie, 1989) - your ideas can b=
e simple, just don't let them be boring.=A0 This can involve drone & repeti=
tion (as long as it's interesting).
=A0
2) if you've got more than two or more elements (i.e., instruments, people,=
 etc.), it should be=A0conversational.=A0 No one likes the person that mono=
polizes the conversation,=A0the end result=A0is always richer if everybody =
contributes, and=A0it should have an ebb & flow like a normal conversation.

=A0
ted h.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

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From: margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: If you had to state 5 rules of a successful music composition for =
12th grade students...
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Received: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 6:03 PM





Hello Loopers List,

This thread could turn into a complicated philosophical discussion. I aim r=
ather to put your ideas in a box for my students to have a performance crit=
erion/check list of what they should nail on their first electronic music c=
omposition based on the simplicity of Reason and "Fair Use" sampling in Pro=
tools. It is assumed that they have no previous music knowledge and are for=
ging their way through to try and find a measure of success.=A0=20

So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance criteria =
of a "successful" composition.

=A0Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
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<DIV>When I lead a free improvisation session, I generally get people to fo=
cus on two things:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>1) To paraphrase from "Dead Poets Society" (movie, 1989) - your ideas =
can be simple, just don't let them be boring.&nbsp; This can involve drone =
&amp; repetition (as long as it's interesting).</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>2) if you've got more than two or more elements (i.e., instruments, pe=
ople, etc.), it should be&nbsp;conversational.&nbsp; No one likes the perso=
n that monopolizes the conversation,&nbsp;the end result&nbsp;is always ric=
her if everybody contributes, and&nbsp;it should have an ebb &amp; flow lik=
e a normal conversation.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>ted h.<BR>Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog<BR><BR>-=
-- On <B>Thu, 1/21/10, margaret noble <I>&lt;margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com&gt=
;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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com&gt;<BR>Subject: If you had to state 5 rules of a successful music compo=
sition for 12th grade students...<BR>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co=
m<BR>Received: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 6:03 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetic=
a, sans-serif">Hello Loopers List,<BR><BR>This thread could turn into a com=
plicated philosophical discussion. I aim rather to put your ideas in a box =
for my students to have a performance criterion/check list of what they sho=
uld nail on their first electronic music composition based on the simplicit=
y of Reason and "Fair Use" sampling in Protools. It is assumed that they ha=
ve no previous music knowledge and are forging their way through to try and=
 find a measure of success.&nbsp; <BR><BR>So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (=
or more) descriptors/performance criteria of a "successful" composition.<BR=
>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: rgb(67,67,67); FO=
NT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Margaret Noble - Sound Artist</SPA=
N><BR style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><SPAN style=3D"CO=
LOR: rgb(91,91,91); FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></SPAN><SPAN=
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<SPAN>Sound is Art Magazine - <A href=3D"http://margaretnoble.net/soundisar=
t" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart</A></=
SPAN></SPAN><BR style=3D"COLOR: rgb(91,91,91); FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetic=
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vetica, sans-serif"></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: rgb(91,91,91); FONT-FAMILY=
: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><SPAN>Artist Website - <A href=3D"http://ma=
rgaretnoble.net/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>http://margaretnoble.net</=
A></SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: rgb(91,91,91); FONT-FAMILY: arial=
, helvetica,
 sans-serif"><SPAN>New Record Label - <A href=3D"http://femrecords.com/" ta=
rget=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>http://femrecords.com/</A></SPAN></SPAN><BR>
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Anybody using this? It looks really cool. But are those buttons  
functions written in stone? Can you program them to whatever?
I guess I could RTFM, but Im also curious as to peoples experiences  
with this.

Thanks

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Does anyone know about a Mac version of something like SynthEdit?

Having got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice) now a
wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC using SynthEdit,
but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is still going)

Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of
Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna learn yet
another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac version of
SynthEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*

M

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Does anyone know about a Mac version of something like SynthEdit? <br><br>H=
aving got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice) now a=
 wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC using SynthEdi=
t, but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is still going)<br>

<br>Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of=
 Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna learn ye=
t another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac version of Syn=
thEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*<br>

<br>M<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">=
www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http:/=
/vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfran=
combe">http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">http://www.myspace.com/mar=
kfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSync=
h%20Non%20Synch">http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy=
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it's freeware/donationware called sonicbirth. it's possible to save your
work as .au, not vst.

2010/1/22 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>

> Does anyone know about a Mac version of something like SynthEdit?
>
> Having got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice) now
> a wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC using
> SynthEdit, but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is still going)
>
> Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of
> Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna learn yet
> another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac version of
> SynthEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*
>
> M
>
> --
> www.markfrancombe.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch
>



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it&#39;s freeware/donationware called sonicbirth. it&#39;s possible to save=
 your work as .au, not vst.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/22 mar=
k francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com"=
>mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Does anyone know =
about a Mac version of something like SynthEdit? <br><br>Having got Mobius =
working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice) now a wanna make some =
effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC using SynthEdit, but thats not =
on the Mac yet (if it even is still going)<br>


<br>Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of=
 Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna learn ye=
t another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac version of Syn=
thEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*<br>


<br>M<br clear=3D"all"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http:/=
/www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a h=
ref=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user=
825094</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">http=
://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/cat=
label.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no/sh=
op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch</a><br>



</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at B=
logger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.blogsp=
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m">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
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Cool thx.. will check it out!

M

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

> it's freeware/donationware called sonicbirth. it's possible to save your
> work as .au, not vst.
>
> 2010/1/22 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>
> Does anyone know about a Mac version of something like SynthEdit?
>>
>> Having got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice) now
>> a wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC using
>> SynthEdit, but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is still going)
>>
>> Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of
>> Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna learn yet
>> another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac version of
>> SynthEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*
>>
>> M
>>
>> --
>> www.markfrancombe.com
>> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
>> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
>> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>
>


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Cool thx.. will check it out!<br><br>M<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Raul Bonell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com">raul.bonell@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">it&#39;s freeware=
/donationware called sonicbirth. it&#39;s possible to save your work as .au=
, not vst.<br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/22 mark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markfra=
ncombe.com</a>&gt;</span><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Does anyone know =
about a Mac version of something like SynthEdit? <br><br>Having got Mobius =
working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice) now a wanna make some =
effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC using SynthEdit, but thats not =
on the Mac yet (if it even is still going)<br>




<br>Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of=
 Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna learn ye=
t another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac version of Syn=
thEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*<br>




<br>M<br clear=3D"all"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http:/=
/www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a h=
ref=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user=
825094</a><br>


<a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">http=
://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/cat=
label.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no/sh=
op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch</a><br>





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http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>


<br>
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<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">http://www.myspace.com/mar=
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mark francombe wrote:
> Does anyone know about a Mac version of something like SynthEdit?
> 
> Having got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice) 
> now a wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC using 
> SynthEdit, but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is still going)
> 
> Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of 
> Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna learn 
> yet another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac version 
> of SynthEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*

Bidule is calling you.
Indeed, it's not uncommon for plug-in designers
to try out their ideas in Bidule before hard coding them.

I reckon you'd find Bidule v. easy to use, it's the same sort 
of modular system as Synthedit (at least, from a superficial
look at synthedit).

You can always create your fx in Bidule and then run Bidule
as a vst within audiomulch.

However, I don't have any idea how well the basic modules
in Bidule compare to those in Synthedit.
(although Bidule would let you use any vst or au fx in the same
way as a basic module).

andy butler

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Reaktor?

Max For Live?


cheers,
os.


2010/1/22 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>:
> Does anyone know about a Mac version of something like SynthEdit?
>
> Having got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice) now a
> wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC using SynthEdit,
> but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is still going)
>
> Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of
> Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna learn yet
> another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac version of
> SynthEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*
>
> M
>
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>



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Everything, except "weird experimental" (my heart breaks there). But, I want them to have fun with expression and arrangement and some measure of success.

 Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/





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From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
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I'm curious - what styles of music are these students interested in?

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> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:03 PM, margaret noble
> <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hello Loopers List,
>>
>> This thread could turn into a complicated philosophical discussion. I aim
>> rather to put your ideas in a box for my students to have a performance
>> criterion/check list of what they should nail on their first electronic
>> music composition based on the simplicity of Reason and "Fair Use" sampling
>> in Protools. It is assumed that they have no previous music knowledge and
>> are forging their way through to try and find a measure of success.
>>
>> So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance criteria
>> of a "successful" composition.
>>
>> Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
>> Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
>> Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
>> New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/
>>
>>
>>
>


      
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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Everything, except "weird experimental" (my heart breaks there). But, I want them to have fun with expression and arrangement and some measure of success.<br><div>&nbsp;</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(67, 67, 67);">Margaret Noble - Sound Artist</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>Sound is Art Magazine - <a target="_blank" href="http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart">http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart</a></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91,
 91, 91);"></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>Artist Website - <a target="_blank" href="http://margaretnoble.net">http://margaretnoble.net</a></span></span><br><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>New Record Label - <a target="_blank" href="http://femrecords.com/">http://femrecords.com/</a></span></span><br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Matt Davignon &lt;mattdavignon@gmail.com&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Fri, January 22, 2010 12:07:30 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: If you had
 to state 5 rules of a successful music composition for  12th grade students...<br></font><br>
I'm curious - what styles of music are these students interested in?<br><br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a ymailto="mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" href="mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.ribosomemusic.com">www.ribosomemusic.com</a><br>Rigs! <a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt">www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt</a><br><br>&gt; On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:03 PM, margaret noble<br>&gt; &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com" href="mailto:margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com">margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; Hello Loopers List,<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; This thread could turn into a complicated philosophical discussion. I aim<br>&gt;&gt; rather to put your ideas in a box for my students to have a performance<br>&gt;&gt; criterion/check list of what they should nail on their first electronic<br>&gt;&gt; music composition based on the simplicity of
 Reason and "Fair Use" sampling<br>&gt;&gt; in Protools. It is assumed that they have no previous music knowledge and<br>&gt;&gt; are forging their way through to try and find a measure of success.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance criteria<br>&gt;&gt; of a "successful" composition.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Margaret Noble - Sound Artist<br><span>&gt;&gt; Sound is Art Magazine - <a target="_blank" href="http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart">http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart</a></span><br><span>&gt;&gt; Artist Website - <a target="_blank" href="http://margaretnoble.net">http://margaretnoble.net</a></span><br><span>&gt;&gt; New Record Label - <a target="_blank" href="http://femrecords.com/">http://femrecords.com/</a></span><br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br></div></div>
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I'd never heard that story either. Thanks Rick!

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2010/1/22 Os <os@collective.co.uk>
>
>
> Max For Live?
>
>

I thought you coluldn't export in MFL.
all your work would remain inside ableton ...


>
> cheers,
> os.
>
>
> 2010/1/22 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>:
> > Does anyone know about a Mac version of something like SynthEdit?
> >
> > Having got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice)
> now a
> > wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC using
> SynthEdit,
> > but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is still going)
> >
> > Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of
> > Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna learn
> yet
> > another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac version of
> > SynthEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*
> >
> > M
> >
> > --
> > www.markfrancombe.com
> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch
> >
>
>
>
> --
> os@collective.co.uk
> http://twitter.com/expertsleepers
> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/
>
>


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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/22 Os <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:os@collective.co.uk">os@collective.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<br>
Max For Live?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I thought you coluldn&#=
39;t export in MFL.</div><div>all your work would remain inside ableton ...=
=A0</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<br>
cheers,<br>
os.<br>
<br>
<br>
2010/1/22 mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark=
@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;:<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt; Does anyone know about a Mac version=
 of something like SynthEdit?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Having got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice)=
 now a<br>
&gt; wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC using Synt=
hEdit,<br>
&gt; but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is still going)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use o=
f<br>
&gt; Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna lear=
n yet<br>
&gt; another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac version of<=
br>
&gt; SynthEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; M<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markfra=
ncombe.com</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo=
.com/user825094</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">htt=
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&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Syn=
ch" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non=
%20Synch</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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> I thought you coluldn't export in MFL.
> all your work would remain inside ableton ...

that's right. it's not clear from Mark's original post if that's a requirement.


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Hi List,=0A=0AWe (as a class) have been reading your response and are very =
enthusiastic about your tips and rules!!! We are agreeing on a group accoun=
tability for grading their work.=0A=0AKeep 'em coming, THANKS FOR YOUR FEED=
BACK!!!=0A=0A Margaret Noble - Sound Artist=0ASound is Art Magazine - http:=
//margaretnoble.net/soundisart=0AArtist Website - http://margaretnoble.net=
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___________________=0AFrom: ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>=0ATo: =
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Fri, January 22, 2010 6:01:02 A=
M=0ASubject: Re: If you had to state 5 rules of a successful music composit=
ion for 12th grade students...=0A=0A=0A =0AWhen I lead a free improvisation=
 session, I generally get people to focus on two things:=0A =0A1) To paraph=
rase from "Dead Poets Society" (movie, 1989) - your ideas can be simple, ju=
st don't let them be boring.  This can involve drone & repetition (as long =
as it's interesting).=0A =0A2) if you've got more than two or more elements=
 (i.e., instruments, people, etc.), it should be conversational.  No one li=
kes the person that monopolizes the conversation, the end result is always =
richer if everybody contributes, and it should have an ebb & flow like a no=
rmal conversation.=0A=0A =0Ated h.=0AEnemies are good for self-definition. =
Werner Herzog=0A=0A--- On Thu, 1/21/10, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@y=
ahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0A>From: margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com=
>=0A>Subject: If you had to state 5 rules of a successful music composition=
 for 12th grade students...=0A>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>R=
eceived: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 6:03 PM=0A>=0A>=0A> >=0A>Hello Loopers=
 List,=0A>=0A>This thread could turn into a complicated philosophical discu=
ssion. I aim rather to put your ideas in a box for my students to have a pe=
rformance criterion/check list of what they should nail on their first elec=
tronic music composition based on the simplicity of Reason and "Fair Use" s=
ampling in Protools. It is assumed that they have no previous music knowled=
ge and are forging their way through to try and find a measure of success. =
 =0A>=0A>So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance =
criteria of a "successful" composition.=0A>=0A> Margaret Noble - Sound Arti=
st=0A>Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart=0A>Artist=
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ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10p=
t">Hi List,<br><br>We (as a class) have been reading your response and are =
very enthusiastic about your tips and rules!!! We are agreeing on a group a=
ccountability for grading their work.<br><br>Keep 'em coming, THANKS FOR YO=
UR FEEDBACK!!!<br><div>&nbsp;</div><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvet=
ica,sans-serif; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(67, 67, 67);">Margaret Noble =
- Sound Artist</span><br style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"=
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t-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> ditch wrestler &lt;ditchwrestler=
@yahoo.com&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loop=
ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Se=
nt:</span></b> Fri,
 January 22, 2010 6:01:02 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subje=
ct:</span></b> Re: If you had to state 5 rules of a successful music compos=
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iv>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>1) To paraphrase from "Dead Poets Society" (movie, 1=
989) - your ideas can be simple, just don't let them be boring.&nbsp; This =
can involve drone &amp; repetition (as long as it's interesting).</div>=0A<=
div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>2) if you've got more than two or more elements (i.=
e., instruments, people, etc.), it should be&nbsp;conversational.&nbsp; No =
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5 rules of a successful music composition for 12th grade students...<br>To:=
 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Received: Thursday, January 21, 201=
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lo Loopers List,<br><br>This thread could turn into a complicated philosoph=
ical discussion. I aim rather to put your ideas in a box for my students to=
 have a performance criterion/check list of what they should nail on their =
first electronic music composition based on the simplicity of Reason and "F=
air Use" sampling in Protools. It is assumed that they have no previous mus=
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Rick=2C That was a very cool story! Thanks. We have such a huge focus on di=
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Agreed, very cool, thanks for sharing

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Sonic birth does export in both AU and VST....

>it's freeware/donationware called sonicbirth. it's possible to save 
>your work as .au, not vst.
>
>2010/1/22 mark francombe 
><<mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com>mark@markfrancombe.com>
>
>Does anyone know about a Mac version of something like SynthEdit?
>
>Having got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of 
>choice) now a wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on 
>the PC using SynthEdit, but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is 
>still going)
>
>Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use 
>of Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna 
>learn yet another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac 
>version of SynthEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*
>
>M
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>it's freeware/donationware called
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>2010/1/22 mark francombe &lt;<a
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>
<blockquote>Does anyone know about a Mac version of something like
SynthEdit?<br>
<br>
Having got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice)
now a wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC
using SynthEdit, but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is still
going)<br>
<br>
Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use
of Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna
learn yet another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac
version of SynthEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*<br>
<br>
M<br>
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6th rule:
Let you be ispired or get a musical solution by picking up an Oblique =20=

Strategy card.

Fabio
www.eterogeneo.com


Il giorno 22/gen/2010, alle ore 18.22, margaret noble =
<margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com=20
 > ha scritto:

> Hi List,
>
> We (as a class) have been reading your response and are very =20
> enthusiastic about your tips and rules!!! We are agreeing on a group =20=

> accountability for grading their work.
>
> Keep 'em coming, THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK!!!
>
> Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
> Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
> Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
> New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/
>
>
> From: ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 6:01:02 AM
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>
>
> When I lead a free improvisation session, I generally get people to =20=

> focus on two things:
>
> 1) To paraphrase from "Dead Poets Society" (movie, 1989) - your =20
> ideas can be simple, just don't let them be boring.  This can =20
> involve drone & repetition (as long as it's interesting).
>
> 2) if you've got more than two or more elements (i.e., instruments, =20=

> people, etc.), it should be conversational.  No one likes the person =20=

> that monopolizes the conversation, the end result is always richer =20
> if everybody contributes, and it should have an ebb & flow like a =20
> normal conversation.
>
>
> ted h.
> Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog
>
> --- On Thu, 1/21/10, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> =20
> wrote:
>
> From: margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com>
> Subject: If you had to state 5 rules of a successful music =20
> composition for 12th grade students...
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Received: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 6:03 PM
>
> Hello Loopers List,
>
> This thread could turn into a complicated philosophical discussion. =20=

> I aim rather to put your ideas in a box for my students to have a =20
> performance criterion/check list of what they should nail on their =20
> first electronic music composition based on the simplicity of Reason =20=

> and "Fair Use" sampling in Protools. It is assumed that they have no =20=

> previous music knowledge and are forging their way through to try =20
> and find a measure of success.
>
> So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) descriptors/performance =20
> criteria of a "successful" composition.
>
> Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
> Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
> Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net/
> New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/
>
>
>
> Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet =20
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>6th rule:</div><div>Let you be =
ispired or get a musical solution by picking up an Oblique Strategy =
card.</div><div><br></div><div>Fabio</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com">www.eterogeneo.com</a></div><div><br><b=
r>Il giorno 22/gen/2010, alle ore 18.22, margaret noble &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com">margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com</a=
>&gt; ha scritto:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><div =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Hi =
List,<br><br>We (as a class) have been reading your response and are =
very enthusiastic about your tips and rules!!! We are agreeing on a =
group accountability for grading their work.<br><br>Keep 'em coming, =
THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK!!!<br><div>&nbsp;</div><span =
style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-weight: bold; =
color: rgb(67, 67, 67);">Margaret Noble - Sound Artist</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, =
91);"></span><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; =
color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>Sound is Art Magazine - <a =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart"><a =
href=3D"http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart">http://margaretnoble.net/soun=
disart</a></a></span></span><br style=3D"font-family: =
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color:
 rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span style=3D"font-family: =
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, =
91);"><span>Artist Website - <a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://margaretnoble.net"><a =
href=3D"http://margaretnoble.net">http://margaretnoble.net</a></a></span><=
/span><br><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: =
rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>New Record Label - <a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://femrecords.com/"><a =
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n><br><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: =
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12pt;"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> ditch wrestler &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ditchwrestler@yahoo.com">ditchwrestler@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br=
><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a></a><br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Fri,
 January 22, 2010 6:01:02 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: If you had to state 5 rules of a =
successful music composition for 12th grade students...<br></font><br>
<table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td =
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inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; =
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valign=3D"top"><div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>When I lead a free improvisation session, I generally get people to =
focus on two things:</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>1) To paraphrase from "Dead Poets Society" (movie, 1989) - your =
ideas can be simple, just don't let them be boring.&nbsp; This can =
involve drone &amp; repetition (as long as it's interesting).</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>2) if you've got more than two or more elements (i.e., instruments, =
people, etc.), it should be&nbsp;conversational.&nbsp; No one likes the =
person that monopolizes the conversation,&nbsp;the end result&nbsp;is =
always richer if everybody contributes, and&nbsp;it should have an ebb =
&amp; flow like a normal conversation.</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>ted h.<br>Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner =
Herzog<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 1/21/10, margaret noble <i>&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com">margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com</a=
>&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); =
padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"><br>From: margaret noble &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com">margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com</a=
>&gt;<br>Subject: If you had to state 5 rules of a successful music =
composition for 12th grade students...<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
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<div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Hello Loopers List,<br><br>This thread =
could turn into a complicated philosophical discussion. I aim rather to =
put your ideas in a box for my students to have a performance =
criterion/check list of what they should nail on their first electronic =
music composition based on the simplicity of Reason and "Fair Use" =
sampling in Protools. It is assumed that they have no previous music =
knowledge and are forging their way through to try and find a measure of =
success.&nbsp; <br><br>So, I'd love to hear your top 5 (or more) =
descriptors/performance criteria of a "successful" composition.<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: rgb(67, 67, =
67); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Margaret Noble - Sound =
Artist</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(91, 91, 91); =
font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"></span><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(91, 91, 91); font-family: =
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><span>Sound is Art Magazine - <a =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart"><a =
href=3D"http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart">http://margaretnoble.net/soun=
disart</a></a></span></span></span><br style=3D"color: rgb(91, 91, 91); =
font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(91, =
91, 91); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"></span><span =
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target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://margaretnoble.net/"><a =
href=3D"http://margaretnoble.net/">http://margaretnoble.net/</a></a></span=
></span></span><br><span style=3D"color: rgb(91, 91, 91); font-family:
 arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><span>New Record Label - <a =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://femrecords.com/"><a =
href=3D"http://femrecords.com/">http://femrecords.com/</a></a></span></spa=
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That's what I guessed. I attempted to steer my suggestions a little
bit towards electronic pop, dance music and hip-hop.

However, for the last few years or so, I've been thinking that there
are some universal rules for what draws people to a particular song
within a genre. For example, the most successful experimental
musicians are following some of the same rules as the most memorable
pop music:

1) Figure out what unique qualities you bring to the table (your
musical persona).
2) Try to develop and express those elements
3) Try to reduce elements that would distract from your musical
persona. (These often tend to be tied the expected forms of your
musical genre. Personally, I find drum loops to be the biggest
offender.)
4) Lastly, listen to your music as if you're not the person who made
it. Are you getting those points across?
5) Find a friend who "gets you", but can be an honest critic, and
listen to what they have to say.

That wasn't meant to be 5 elements, because I already made 5. Hmmm...

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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:20 AM, margaret noble
<margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Everything, except "weird experimental" (my heart breaks there). But, I want
> them to have fun with expression and arrangement and some measure of
> success.
>
> Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
> Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
> Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
> New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/
>
>
>
> I'm curious - what styles of music are these students interested in?
>

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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> now a wanna make some effects.


Why? Almost any effect imaginable does already exist as a plugin. All
you have to do is to cable them together in a creative way.

Greetings from Sweden

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Not really Per... for me to very roughly emulate what I regularly do on my
hardware, I will have to build some vsts myself. (or something else) Im
predominately using step sequences to step thru parameters that are
"effecting" the loops I make, I think there are some plugins that do this, I
had one called Splonki that did this and Os was right I have made a few
things in Reactor that come close.

Obviosly Im not going to be trying to copy my modular/looping hardware setup
exactly, but for me to work with it and use it as a live alternative, i have
to be able to emulate some parts of what is possible in the studio.

But just on the offchance that you are right and know of such a beast...
I would need a 2 x 16 step sequncers with quantised steps, (Or what I call a
square wave sequencer where 4 synced squarewaves ) can modulate ring
modulation, low pas filter (with nice and dirty Q) ran position and volume
(so its a 4 channel sequencer really)...

Its quite a simple thing actually, and having a cursory look at Bidule I
think I may do it there actually, if I can find out how to do the quantising
(ness for the ring mod stuff IMHO) and link to the parameters of some of the
built in effects...

Thanks for all your help guys... Im on to something...

M




On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
> > now a wanna make some effects.
>
>
> Why? Almost any effect imaginable does already exist as a plugin. All
> you have to do is to cable them together in a creative way.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>


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Not really Per... for me to very roughly emulate what I regularly do on my =
hardware, I will have to build some vsts myself. (or something else) Im pre=
dominately using step sequences to step thru parameters that are &quot;effe=
cting&quot; the loops I make, I think there are some plugins that do this, =
I had one called Splonki that did this and Os was right I have made a few t=
hings in Reactor that come close.<br>

<br>Obviosly Im not going to be trying to copy my modular/looping hardware =
setup exactly, but for me to work with it and use it as a live alternative,=
 i have to be able to emulate some parts of what is possible in the studio.=
<br>

<br>But just on the offchance that you are right and know of such a beast..=
.<br>I would need a 2 x 16 step sequncers with quantised steps, (Or what I =
call a square wave sequencer where 4 synced squarewaves ) can modulate ring=
 modulation, low pas filter (with nice and dirty Q) ran position and volume=
 (so its a 4 channel sequencer really)...<br>

<br>Its quite a simple thing actually, and having a cursory look at Bidule =
I think I may do it there actually, if I can find out how to do the quantis=
ing (ness for the ring mod stuff IMHO) and link to the parameters of some o=
f the built in effects...<br>

<br>Thanks for all your help guys... Im on to something...<br><br>M<br><br>=
<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Pe=
r Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perbo=
ysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
>On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark=
@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>


&gt; now a wanna make some effects.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>Why? Almost any effect imaginable does already exist as a plugin. All=
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Intentionality

Repetition

Novelty/Surprise

Definition/Clarity

Contrast

Limitation of parameters and resources

Structural Unity

Movement/Development

Commitment/Passion/Intensity

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At 1:53 AM +0100 1/23/10, mark francombe wrote:
>
>But just on the offchance that you are right and know of such a beast...
>I would need a 2 x 16 step sequncers with quantised steps, (Or what 
>I call a square wave sequencer where 4 synced squarewaves ) can 
>modulate ring modulation, low pas filter (with nice and dirty Q) ran 
>position and volume (so its a 4 channel sequencer really)...

Mark,

If I may make an educated guess, it sounds as if you're trying to 
duplicate in software the functionality of your Roland EF-303 unit. 
Apologies if that supposition is wrong, of course, but as another 
similarly-impressed (why wasn't this unit more popular?) EF-303 user, 
I've been trying to do the same.  So let me share with you what I've 
found so far.

Instead of trying to find an "all-in-one" effect which contains both 
the control channel (the step sequencer) and the audio effect 
integrated together, I thought it might be more useful to find a 
control unit plug-in that could then transmit MIDI CC via the IAC Bus 
to any other effect I might choose.  For this purpose, I've come 
across these products:

Sugar Bytes Thesys ( 
http://www.sugar-bytes.de/content/products/Thesys/index.php?lang=en 
).  This is a suite of stepped gating effects that can be triggered 
externally in a variety of ways.  The Modulation track can also send 
out MIDI CC to any other effect.

AraldFX StormGate3 ( http://www.araldfx.com ).  Gate effector which 
can be used to send CC's to external effects.  Also, this one has a 
twist in that it's normal gate function is split into three different 
frequency ranges via crossovers; each range can be gated 
independently.  Since a lot of what I was doing with the EF-303 was 
using it to give static drones rhythmic content, I use this one quite 
a bit without even having to sub out to MIDI CC.

Plogue Bidule ( http://www.plogue.com/?page_id=56 ).  Yes, as has 
been stated before, you can definitely "build your own" exactly to 
specification via Bidule.  I didn't start down this route because I 
could find my needs met by other commercial plugs, but YMMV.

Five12 Systems Numerology ( http://www.five12.com/ ).  This is the 
Godzilla of step-sequencing programs.  I can almost guarantee that 
you can find some way of emulating what you need here (hell, I start 
to get confused when merely contemplating step-sequencers controlling 
step-sequencers, so I only ever scratched the surface of it).  Can 
also host other AU plug-ins itself, so there's a possibility that you 
may be able to use it as your plug host as well.

Hope that helps, and good luck!  :)

	--m.
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oops, sorry. i've re-checked the app export options and also VST is
possible, although with minor restrictions.

2010/1/22 Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>

>  Sonic birth does export in both AU and VST....
>
> it's freeware/donationware called sonicbirth. it's possible to save your
> work as .au, not vst.
>
> 2010/1/22 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>
> Does anyone know about a Mac version of something like SynthEdit?
>
> Having got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice) now
> a wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC using
> SynthEdit, but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is still going)
>
> Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of
> Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna learn yet
> another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac version of
> SynthEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*
>
> M
>
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oops, sorry. i&#39;ve re-checked the app export options and also VST is pos=
sible, although with minor restrictions.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
2010/1/22 Charles Zwicky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cazwicky@e=
arthlink.net">cazwicky@earthlink.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>
<div>Sonic birth does export in both AU and VST....</div><div><div></div><d=
iv class=3D"h5">
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">it&#39;s freeware/donationware called
sonicbirth. it&#39;s possible to save your work as .au, not vst.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">2010/1/22 mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ma=
rk@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;<br>
<blockquote>Does anyone know about a Mac version of something like
SynthEdit?<br>
<br>
Having got Mobius working nicely inside AudioMulch (My host of choice)
now a wanna make some effects. Now years ago I did this on the PC
using SynthEdit, but thats not on the Mac yet (if it even is still
going)<br>
<br>
Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use
of Mulch and jump into Bidule? (Have to say that I really dont wanna
learn yet another program... it kills me... on the other hand, a mac
version of SynthEdit is hardly gonna be a clone.. so... *sigh*<br>
<br>
M<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
<br>
<br>
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> If I may make an educated guess, it sounds as if you're trying to duplicate
> in software the functionality of your Roland EF-303 unit. Apologies if that
> supposition is wrong, of course, but as another similarly-impressed (why
> wasn't this unit more popular?) EF-303 user, I've been trying to do the
> same.  So let me share with you what I've found so far.
>
>
You may of course, and you are not far wrong, except that the EF303 was
actually the item I use to duplicate my modular system, and now Im trying to
duplicate the same... except that it doesnt have to be as all in one as the
EF303... just the functionality i descrobed would do---

Thanks for the suggestions, gonna get them.. (are they free and for mac? at
least a try BEFORE buy ??)



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If I may make an educated guess, it sounds as if you&#39;re trying to dupli=
cate in software the functionality of your Roland EF-303 unit. Apologies if=
 that supposition is wrong, of course, but as another similarly-impressed (=
why wasn&#39;t this unit more popular?) EF-303 user, I&#39;ve been trying t=
o do the same. =A0So let me share with you what I&#39;ve found so far.<br>


<font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></blockquote><div><br>You may of course,=
 and you are not far wrong, except that the EF303 was actually the item I u=
se to duplicate my modular system, and now Im trying to duplicate the same.=
.. except that it doesnt have to be as all in one as the EF303... just the =
functionality i descrobed would do---<br>

<br>Thanks for the suggestions, gonna get them.. (are they free and for mac=
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Subject: Re: mac vst builder(Synthedit) thingy??
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sonicbirth is free although i think its development stopped on 2007...
maybe, hypercyclic could do the trick ... and is free & for mac too, in
plugin form.

http://www.mucoder.net/hypercyclic/

2010/1/23 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>

>
> If I may make an educated guess, it sounds as if you're trying to duplicate
>> in software the functionality of your Roland EF-303 unit. Apologies if that
>> supposition is wrong, of course, but as another similarly-impressed (why
>> wasn't this unit more popular?) EF-303 user, I've been trying to do the
>> same.  So let me share with you what I've found so far.
>>
>>
> You may of course, and you are not far wrong, except that the EF303 was
> actually the item I use to duplicate my modular system, and now Im trying to
> duplicate the same... except that it doesnt have to be as all in one as the
> EF303... just the functionality i descrobed would do---
>
> Thanks for the suggestions, gonna get them.. (are they free and for mac? at
> least a try BEFORE buy ??)
>
>
>
> --
> www.markfrancombe.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch
>



-- 
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

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sonicbirth is free although i think its development stopped on 2007...<br>m=
aybe, hypercyclic could do the trick ... and is free &amp; for mac too, in =
plugin form.<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.mucoder.net/hypercyclic/">http://=
www.mucoder.net/hypercyclic/</a><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/23 mark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;=
</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px soli=
d rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt=
 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
If I may make an educated guess, it sounds as if you&#39;re trying to dupli=
cate in software the functionality of your Roland EF-303 unit. Apologies if=
 that supposition is wrong, of course, but as another similarly-impressed (=
why wasn&#39;t this unit more popular?) EF-303 user, I&#39;ve been trying t=
o do the same. =A0So let me share with you what I&#39;ve found so far.<br>



<font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></blockquote></div><div><br>You may of c=
ourse, and you are not far wrong, except that the EF303 was actually the it=
em I use to duplicate my modular system, and now Im trying to duplicate the=
 same... except that it doesnt have to be as all in one as the EF303... jus=
t the functionality i descrobed would do---<br>


<br>Thanks for the suggestions, gonna get them.. (are they free and for mac=
? at least a try BEFORE buy ??)<br></div></div><div><div></div><div class=
=3D"h5"><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancomb=
e.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br>


<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/=
user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.co=
m/markfrancombe</a><br>


<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy=
nch</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell=
 at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.b=
logspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collecti=
ve.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
<br>

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Thanks for listning :-)
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Date: Thu=2C 21 Jan 2010 15:39:09 -0500
Subject: Re: new little improvised looping thing=2C (and CHEERS with Single=
 malt (no beer at home))
From: wsirota@wsdesigns.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

enjoyed it=2C Anders


On Tue=2C Jan 19=2C 2010 at 6:57 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@h=
otmail.com> wrote:


All that talk of beer made me thirsty=2C i have a could and can't sleep so =
I poured som Laphroig instead.. mm
And for the first time in a few mont I had the chance to record something=
=2C a rather normal looping peice. starting a loop with no sound then just =
handling the guitar to see what happends..
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D924516&songID=3D=
8636594
=20
(this is also my latest amp=2C a Dumble stule (mystic Blues) with Marshall =
transformers=2C I like it a lot)
=20
CHEERS :-)


--=20
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com
NEW CD: Loops=2C Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
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<DIV class=3Decxgmail_quote>On Tue=2C Jan 19=2C 2010 at 6:57 PM=2C Anders B=
ergdahl <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt=3B<A href=3D"mailto:anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.c=
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<DIV>All that talk of beer made me thirsty=2C i have a could and can't slee=
p so I poured som Laphroig instead.. mm<BR>And for the first time in a few =
mont I had the chance to record something=2C a rather normal looping peice.=
 starting a loop with no sound then just handling the guitar to see what ha=
ppends..<BR><A href=3D"http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?ba=
ndID=3D924516&amp=3BsongID=3D8636594">http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_=
songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D924516&amp=3BsongID=3D8636594</A><BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>(thi=
s is also my latest amp=2C a Dumble stule (mystic Blues) with Marshall tran=
sformers=2C I like it a lot)<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>CHEERS :-)<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOT=
E></DIV><BR><BR clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>Warren<BR><A href=3D"http://www.warr=
ensirota.com/">http://www.warrensirota.com</A><BR>NEW CD: Loops=2C Live &am=
p=3B Otw<BR><A href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota">http://www.cd=
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At 8:25 AM +0100 1/23/10, mark francombe wrote:
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>Thanks for the suggestions, gonna get them.. (are they free and for 
>mac? at least a try BEFORE buy ??)

Mac, most certainly.  Free, sorry no.  Demos, I think every one has a 
version of crippleware that you can download and try before you shell 
out your hard-earned cash.

Didn't realize you were coming from a modular background either, or I 
wouldn't have softpedalled Numerology quite so much.  You'd probably 
be right at home there, then (not to mention Bidule).  Many times my 
ADD keeps me from going quite as deep on these things, but that 
doesn't mean they're not good tools.  :)

Ganbatte!!!

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or actually it never went away it's just been doing other projects such as
the DigItSignal collaboration but as I began it back in April I want to
return to doing some solo casts in between these other collaborations so...

my camera techno permitting (problems with my Mac network interface so at
the moment no iSight camera) using a backup camera and other puter setup
I'll be doing a Sunday Morning at 11 solo set tomorrow morning (January
24).  I may not do a full hour but will see.

the show URL http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11

Times - 8am PST, 10am CST, *11am EST, *4pm UK/England, 5pm Western Europe,
12mn Japan.  I think my calculations are correct but please check at
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html .

See ya'll then.

Jim

PS.. DigItSignal show next weekend Jan 31, film TBA,
http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive
PS2.. Did excellent first NinJam meeting with Steve Moyes this AM, will post
excerpts later.

-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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or actually it never went away it&#39;s just been doing other projects such=
 as the DigItSignal collaboration but as I began it back in April I want to=
 return to doing some solo casts in between these other collaborations so..=
.<br>
<br>my camera techno permitting (problems with my Mac network interface so =
at the moment no iSight camera) using a backup camera and other puter setup=
 I&#39;ll be doing a Sunday Morning at 11 solo set tomorrow morning (Januar=
y 24).=A0 I may not do a full hour but will see.<br>
<br>the show URL <a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at=
-11">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11</a><br><br>Times - =
8am PST, 10am CST, <b>11am EST, </b>4pm UK/England, 5pm Western Europe, 12m=
n Japan.=A0 I think my calculations are correct but please check at <a href=
=3D"http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html">http://www.timean=
ddate.com/worldclock/converter.html</a> .<br>
<br>See ya&#39;ll then.<br><br>Jim<br><br>PS.. DigItSignal show next weeken=
d Jan 31, film TBA, <a href=3D"http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive">h=
ttp://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive</a><br>PS2.. Did excellent first N=
inJam meeting with Steve Moyes this AM, will post excerpts later.<br clear=
=3D"all">
<br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.=
myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><=
a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br=
>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>

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hey Jim, I'm here in Brooklyn, I'm still figuring out my schedule for 
tomorrow but would you be up for me joining you tomorrow? I won't know 
til this afternoon if it would work, but I have my guitar and even my 
little tape 4-track. let me know.

d


> or actually it never went away it's just been doing other projects 
> such as the DigItSignal collaboration but as I began it back in April 
> I want to return to doing some solo casts in between these other 
> collaborations so...
>
> my camera techno permitting (problems with my Mac network interface so 
> at the moment no iSight camera) using a backup camera and other puter 
> setup I'll be doing a Sunday Morning at 11 solo set tomorrow morning 
> (January 24).  I may not do a full hour but will see.
>
> the show URL http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11
>
> Times - 8am PST, 10am CST, *11am EST, *4pm UK/England, 5pm Western 
> Europe, 12mn Japan.  I think my calculations are correct but please 
> check at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html .
>
> See ya'll then.
>
> Jim
>
> PS.. DigItSignal show next weekend Jan 31, film TBA, 
> http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive
> PS2.. Did excellent first NinJam meeting with Steve Moyes this AM, 
> will post excerpts later.
>
> -- 
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
> www.myspace.com/CtReUse <http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse>
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com <http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com>
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com <http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com>
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic <http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic>
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic 
> <http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic>
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro 
> <http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro>
> www.myspace.com/jindream <http://www.myspace.com/jindream>
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic <http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic>
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital <http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital>
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic <http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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OOOOPS

sorrry for that private message folks!

Daryl Shawn
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> At 8:25 AM +0100 1/23/10, mark francombe wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions, gonna get them.. (are they free and for mac?
>> at least a try BEFORE buy ??)


Numerology is my favorite way to "cable up AU effect plugins" in order to
achieve similar performance techniques that you are your your hardware
allows (rather than programming new plugins from scratch):

http://www.five12.com/

Numerology is a modular music sequencing and audio plugin environment for
> Mac OS X. It takes the step sequencing and modulation metaphors established
> by the analog sequencers of the 70's, and implements them in a structured
> and highly interactive software environment designed for experimentation,
> improvisation and live performance. By using Numerology in conjunction with
> your choice of Audio Unit plugins and hardware synths, you can create an
> open compositional environment that is truly your own.



Copies of Numerology that have not been activated by a valid serial number
> run in Demo mode. In demo mode, you can only save small projects: ones that
> have a single stack (other than the Clock stack) with less than 6 modules.


Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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&gt; At 8:25 AM +0100 1/23/10, mark francombe wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt=
; Thanks for the suggestions, gonna get them.. (are they free and for mac?<=
br>&gt;&gt; at least a try BEFORE buy ??)<br><br><div><br></div><div>Numero=
logy is my favorite way to &quot;cable up AU effect plugins&quot; in order =
to achieve similar performance techniques that you are your your hardware a=
llows (rather than programming new plugins from scratch):=C2=A0<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.five12.com/">http://www.five12.com/</a><br><br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px=
; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-le=
ft-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; =
">
Numerology is a modular music sequencing and audio plugin environment for M=
ac OS X. It takes the step sequencing and modulation metaphors established =
by the analog sequencers of the 70&#39;s, and implements them in a structur=
ed and highly interactive software environment designed for experimentation=
, improvisation and live performance. By using Numerology in conjunction wi=
th your choice of Audio Unit plugins and hardware synths, you can create an=
 open compositional environment that is truly your own.</blockquote>
<br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-=
right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px;=
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eft: 1ex; ">
Copies of Numerology that have not been activated by a valid serial number =
run in Demo mode. In demo mode, you can only save small projects: ones that=
 have a single stack (other than the Clock stack) with less than 6 modules.=
</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"=
http://www.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.=
com">www.perboysen.com</a><br></div></div>

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Hell we're all family here Daryl.  Come on in the water is fine! Be
happy to have you join if your sch'd works out - curtain goes up at
11!  (Grins D.. Details to private). J

On 1/23/10, Daryl <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
> hey Jim, I'm here in Brooklyn, I'm still figuring out my schedule for
> tomorrow but would you be up for me joining you tomorrow? I won't know
> til this afternoon if it would work, but I have my guitar and even my
> little tape 4-track. let me know.
>
> d
>
>
>> or actually it never went away it's just been doing other projects
>> such as the DigItSignal collaboration but as I began it back in April
>> I want to return to doing some solo casts in between these other
>> collaborations so...
>>
>> my camera techno permitting (problems with my Mac network interface so
>> at the moment no iSight camera) using a backup camera and other puter
>> setup I'll be doing a Sunday Morning at 11 solo set tomorrow morning
>> (January 24).  I may not do a full hour but will see.
>>
>> the show URL http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11
>>
>> Times - 8am PST, 10am CST, *11am EST, *4pm UK/England, 5pm Western
>> Europe, 12mn Japan.  I think my calculations are correct but please
>> check at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html .
>>
>> See ya'll then.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> PS.. DigItSignal show next weekend Jan 31, film TBA,
>> http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive
>> PS2.. Did excellent first NinJam meeting with Steve Moyes this AM,
>> will post excerpts later.
>>
>> --
>> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
>> www.myspace.com/CtReUse <http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse>
>>
>> music links...
>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com <http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com>
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com <http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com>
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic <http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic>
>> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>> <http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic>
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>> <http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro>
>> www.myspace.com/jindream <http://www.myspace.com/jindream>
>> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic <http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic>
>>
>> video work/editing...
>> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital <http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital>
>>
>> social networking...
>> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic <http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic>
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>

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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:

> Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of
> Mulch and jump into Bidule?



Hi Mark,

Speaking about Numerology, I just improvised this piece with my little
FaderFox micromodul LV1 midi mixer/knob/tweak controller. Anything can be
modulated by either your knobs/pedals directly or by a bunch of step
sequencers that are being modulated by your knobs/pedals or other step
sequencers. Here I was using three softsynths as sound source but it could
as well have been softloopers snagging the audio input.

http://www.box.net/shared/9f6cov0qh2

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, mark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
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wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of Mul=
ch and jump into Bidule?</blockquote></div><br><div><br></div><div>Hi Mark,=
=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Speaking about Numerology, I just improvise=
d this piece with my little FaderFox micromodul LV1 midi mixer/knob/tweak c=
ontroller. Anything can be modulated by either your knobs/pedals directly o=
r by a bunch of step sequencers that are being modulated by your knobs/peda=
ls or other step sequencers. Here I was using three softsynths as sound sou=
rce but it could as well have been softloopers snagging the audio input.=C2=
=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.box.net/shared/9f6cov0qh2">http:/=
/www.box.net/shared/9f6cov0qh2</a></div><div><br></div><div>Greetings from =
Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen=C2=A0<br><a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se">www.boys=
en.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com">www.perboysen.com</a></div>

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i go first ...

2010/1/24 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:
>
>> Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of
>> Mulch and jump into Bidule?
>
>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Speaking about Numerology, I just improvised this piece with my little
> FaderFox micromodul LV1 midi mixer/knob/tweak controller. Anything can be
> modulated by either your knobs/pedals directly or by a bunch of step
> sequencers that are being modulated by your knobs/pedals or other step
> sequencers. Here I was using three softsynths as sound source but it could
> as well have been softloopers snagging the audio input.
>
> http://www.box.net/shared/9f6cov0qh2
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>



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i go first ...<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/24 Per Boysen <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: =
1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;=
">
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, mark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markfrancombe.c=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0=
pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of Mul=
ch and jump into Bidule?</blockquote></div><br><div><br></div><div>Hi Mark,=
=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Speaking about Numerology, I just improvised t=
his piece with my little FaderFox micromodul LV1 midi mixer/knob/tweak cont=
roller. Anything can be modulated by either your knobs/pedals directly or b=
y a bunch of step sequencers that are being modulated by your knobs/pedals =
or other step sequencers. Here I was using three softsynths as sound source=
 but it could as well have been softloopers snagging the audio input.=A0</d=
iv>

<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.box.net/shared/9f6cov0qh2" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.box.net/shared/9f6cov0qh2</a></div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Greetings from Sweden<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>Per Boysen=A0<br><a=
 href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
></font></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at Blogger:=
 <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.blogspot.com<=
/a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com">http=
://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
<br>

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As you ALL saw earlier today, Daryl will unexpectedly be joining me in
the morning for my live Sunday Morning @ 11 webcast so it will be a
surprise Chinapainting feature performance beginnig at 11am EST.
Pretty neat!.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.

Times hopefully near you: 8:00am PST. 1000am CST. 1100am EST. 400pm
UK. 500/600pm Continental Europe. 12mn am Japan.

Join us...

Jim

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music links...
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www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
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video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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I am the chairman of the contract award committee of the Gold and Natural resources ministry here in South Africa, for security reasons, I may not wish to disclose the most important thing for now until I hear from you.

 

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 <br>
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 <br>
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Hi Mark=2C=20
Coincidentally=2C I'm getting into writing specialist plugins that don't cu=
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Audiomulch.=20
I was just curious=2C what's the problem with AM? I like my cosy relationsh=
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gain=2C I thought there were too much tech and not enought music.=20

Peace

Gareth




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Good Day!!!

We have a Parcel contained an International Cashier Bank Draft/Cheque worth 
the sum of Eight Hundred Thousand Dollars ($800.000.00 USD) which will be 
deliver to you at the moment as long as you provide all the requirement 
information to the FedEx package company before the parcel can be shipped to 
your own residential address in your country. Further more you might be 
asking yourself how come this email, cheque or draft, Anyway, your cheque was 
brought to our office by the Coca-Cola Bottling Company via a Lottery 
Fiduciary Claim Agent, signifying that you are a rightful winner to their 
Lottery Award Promo selected randomly. Your e-mail address was among the Ten 
lucky email addresses which make your email address as one of the lucky email 
address and they have decided to send it to you true Federal Express Delivery 
Service.

We have send you series of mail to inform you about the said parcel and and 
also about the Insurance fee but we did not hear from you and we the Federal 
Express Delivery Service has decided to send your parcel to you without you 
paying for the Insurance fee but you will only have to pay for the Airport 
Custom clearance fee with the sum of $520 usd only in your Country to enable 
our delivery man clear your parcel out of your Country Airport Custom and 
deliver it to you safely in your given address.

What you have to do now, is to contact our Delivery Department for immediate 
dispatch to your residential address. For your information, the Delivery fee 
and Security Keeping fee & Shipping charges as well as the Vat fees have been 
paid by the Lottery Fiduciary Company.


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Yours Faithfully,
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We have been authorized by Heal the World Foundation (HTWF) to contact you
concerning the payment for the delivery of your parcel containing the sum
of â‚¬600,000.00 (Six hundred thousand euros) to your stated address.You
have been awarded this grant from HTWF as part of the 2010 universal
charity organization development program.

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Mr. Francis B. Ackah
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REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP TRANSFER OF GBP25, 500,000.00

I am Mr. Francis B. Ackah, Manager, Engineering and Head of Project and Planning of the Ghana National Petroleum Corporation (GNPC),

I head a seven man Tenders Board Committee in charge of contract award and Payment approvals. I came to know of you in my search for a reliable and reputable person to handle a very confidential transaction, which involves the transfer of a huge sum of money to a foreign account.

There were series of contracts executed by a consortium of Multinationals in the oil industry in favor of the (GNPC) among which were;

1) The expansion of Pipeline network within Ghana for crude oil and downstream products distribution and subsequent evacuation - GBP2 Billion.
2) Contract for Turn Around Maintenance ( TAM ) of a new Refinery in the country.
3) The construction of Storage Tanks for Petroleum Product (Depots)- GBP 94 Million.

The original value of these contracts were deliberately over invoiced in the sum of Twenty Five million, Five Hundred Thousand British Pounds Sterling GBP 25,500,000.00) which has recently been approved and now ready to be transferred. However the companies that actually executed the aforementioned contract have been fully paid and the projects officially commissioned.

Consequently, my colleagues and I are willing to transfer the total amount into your account for subsequent disbursement, since us as civil servants are prohibited by the Code of Conduct Bureau (Civil Service Laws) from opening and/or operating foreign accounts in our names. Needless to say, the trust reposed in you at this juncture is enormous. In return, we have agreed amongst ourselves to offer you 15% of the transferred sum, 5% shall be set aside for any incidental expenses during the course of this transaction, you will then be mandated to revert the balance to us in due course.

You must however NOTE that this transaction is subject to the following terms and conditions; our conviction of your transparent honesty and diligence, that you must accord this transaction with utmost confidentiality and secrecy. Modalities have been worked out at the highest levels of the Ministry 0f Finance, Central Bank of Ghana and the Presidential Task Force on Contract Payment for the immediate remittance of the funds within 10 - 14 working days subject to your satisfaction of the above terms.

Our assurance is that your role shall be totally risk free. To accord this transaction the legality it deserves, and for mutual security of funds, the whole procedures shall be legally processed with your name or any company you may nominate as the bona fide final Contract payment beneficiary. Once more, I want you to understand that having put in over 20 years in the Civil Service of my country; I am very much averse to having my image and career dented. This matter should therefore be treated with utmost secrecy and urgency. Kindly expedite immediate action as we are well behind schedule to enable us include this transfer in the second batch of the 2008 fiscal year contract payments.

BEST REGARDS.

Mr. Francis B. Ackah

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On Jan 23, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

>  I just improvised this piece with my little FaderFox micromodul LV1  
> midi mixer/knob/tweak controller.




Very nice. I like the driving percolating rhythm.


BobC



http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5
http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego


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(Broad-Way Medical Centre)
06 BP 1409 Akpakpa Domey
Cotonou,Benin Republic.
Dear Friend,
Greetings to you & your Family.I have been waiting for you since to contact=
 me for your Confirmable Bank Draft of ($1.2m) United States=A0 Dollars, bu=
t I have not heard from you since then,so I went and deposited the Draft wi=
th Skyline=A0 Courier And=A0 Delivery Company ,Cotonou,Benin Republic befor=
e I travelled out of the country for a short Course and I=A0 will spend thr=
ee months overseas.What you have to do now, is to contact=A0 Skyline Courie=
r And Delivery Company as soon as possible to know when they will deliver y=
our=A0 package to you because of the expiring date.For your information,I h=
ave paid for the delivery Charges.The only money you will send to Skyline C=
ourier And Delivery Company to deliver your Draft direct to your home Addre=
ss in your country is ($98) only,being their Security Keeping Fee of the Co=
urier Company.Again, Do not be=A0 deceived by anybody to pay any other mone=
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Skyline Courier And Delivery Company
E-mail: ( skyexcourier01@live.fr)
Phone: 00229931626 .
Registration Reference No; wwdsc/xxx/100
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hone number to them again to avoid any mistake on the Delivery and=A0 Let m=
e repeat again,try to contact them as soon as you receive this mail to avoi=
d any further delay and remember to pay them their=A0 Security Keeping fee =
of $98 for their immediate action.You should also Let me know through email=
 as soon as you receive your Draft.
Note. Skyline courier delivery company do not know the contents of the=A0 p=
arcel.I registered it as=A0 my photograph (pix) being sent to a friend=A0 o=
verseas. They do not know that it contains a bank draft of such a huge amou=
nt of money.This is to avoid them tempering with the package. Do not let th=
em know the contents I am waiting to hear the good news=A0 from you.
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Centre)<br>06 BP 1409 Akpakpa Domey<br>Cotonou,Benin Republic.</p><p><br>De=
ar Friend,</p><p><br>Greetings to you &amp; your Family.I have been waiting=
 for you since to contact me for your Confirmable Bank Draft of ($1.2m) Uni=
ted States&nbsp; Dollars, but I have not heard from you since then,so I wen=
t and deposited the Draft with Skyline&nbsp; Courier And&nbsp; Delivery Com=
pany ,Cotonou,Benin Republic before I travelled out of the country for a sh=
ort Course and I&nbsp; will spend three months overseas.What you have to do=
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ossible to know when </p><p>they will deliver your&nbsp; package to you bec=
ause of the expiring date.For your information,I have paid for the delivery=
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ny
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ntact them and in case of demurrage.You have to contact the Skyline Courier=
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mation bellow.</p><p><br>Skyline Courier And Delivery Company<br>E-mail: ( =
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ence No; wwdsc/xxx/100</p><p><br>Finally, make sure that you reconfirm your=
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mistake on the Delivery and&nbsp; Let me repeat again,try to contact them a=
s soon as you receive this mail to avoid any further delay and remember to
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n.You should also Let me know through email as soon as you receive your Dra=
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ts of the&nbsp; parcel.I registered it as&nbsp; my photograph (pix) being s=
ent to a friend&nbsp; overseas. They do not know that it contains a bank dr=
aft of such a huge amount of money.This is to avoid them tempering with the=
 package. Do not let them know the contents I am waiting to hear the good n=
ews&nbsp; from you.</p><p><br>Regards,</p><p>Dr. Paul Bosi </p><p>&nbsp;</p=
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nothig wrong with AM Garath.. I think its an amazing app... It was my fave
on the PC, when I had synthedit to make those weird things I couldnt find
elsewhere (if you are on PC, go steal my plugins from my website) But now Im
on mac, I cant use synthedit.. so its some other route for me...

Shame tho... Im just gonna say it once.. to get tose NON Audio Mulch people
wondering...


THE METASURFACE...

There.. now I done it...


Mark






On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Gareth Whittock
<buddhamachine@live.co.uk>wrote:

>
>
> ------------------------------
> Hi Mark,
> Coincidentally, I'm getting into writing specialist plugins that don't
> currently exist, (at least n the form I want) using Synthedit running into
> Audiomulch.
> I was just curious, what's the problem with AM? I like my cosy relationship
> with it - It means I can have a musical idea and run with it rather than
> figuring out how to implement it. AM's pretty much transparent to me now...
> I have tried Bidule and it's not for me, I considered Max msp too but again,
> I thought there were too much tech and not enought music.
>
> Peace
>
> Gareth
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:
>
> Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of
> Mulch and jump into Bidule?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell
> us now <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/>
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nothig wrong with AM Garath.. I think its an amazing app... It was my fave =
on the PC, when I had synthedit to make those weird things I couldnt find e=
lsewhere (if you are on PC, go steal my plugins from my website) But now Im=
 on mac, I cant use synthedit.. so its some other route for me...<br>

<br>Shame tho... Im just gonna say it once.. to get tose NON Audio Mulch pe=
ople wondering...<br><br><br>THE METASURFACE...<br><br>There.. now I done i=
t...<br><br><br>Mark<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">

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href=3D"mailto:buddhamachine@live.co.uk">buddhamachine@live.co.uk</a>&gt;</=
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<div>
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alist plugins that don&#39;t currently exist, (at least n the form I want) =
using Synthedit running into Audiomulch. <br>I was just curious, what&#39;s=
 the problem with AM? I like my cosy relationship with it - It means I can =
have a musical idea and run with it rather than figuring out how to impleme=
nt it. AM&#39;s pretty much transparent to me now... I have tried Bidule an=
d it&#39;s not for me, I considered Max msp too but again, I thought there =
were too much tech and not enought music. <br>

<br>Peace<br><br>Gareth<br><br><br><div><br><blockquote style=3D"padding-le=
ft: 1ex;">
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, mark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markfrancombe.c=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div><blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 1ex;">

Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of Mul=
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ote></div><br> 		 	   		  <br><hr>We want to hear all your funny, exciting =
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Quite!


"THE METASURFACE...

There.. now I done it..."










On Sun=2C Jan 24=2C 2010 at 11:05 AM=2C Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live=
.co.uk> wrote:









Hi Mark=2C=20
Coincidentally=2C I'm getting into writing specialist plugins that don't cu=
rrently exist=2C (at least n the form I want) using Synthedit running into =
Audiomulch.=20
I was just curious=2C what's the problem with AM? I like my cosy relationsh=
ip with it - It means I can have a musical idea and run with it rather than=
 figuring out how to implement it. AM's pretty much transparent to me now..=
. I have tried Bidule and it's not for me=2C I considered Max msp too but a=
gain=2C I thought there were too much tech and not enought music.=20



Peace

Gareth




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om> wrote:


Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of Mul=
ch and jump into Bidule?



 		 	   		 =20
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Hi folks,

I posted two pieces from recent live performances on You Tube:

Uncertainty Principles  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH9qcZBuf5g 
is an excerpt from a very high energy live performance I did with 
Dennis Warren's Quantum Jams at the Lily Pad on Oct 10, 2009. I would 
describe the music as midway between Bitches Brew era Miles Davis, 
and free jazz. I mixed video and projected on the ceiling above the 
band.

I recorded my video, Dennis recorded a high quality audio track and 
also ran a video camera. Uncertainty Principles is taken from the end 
of the concert, and includes parts of my recording, parts of Dennis's 
recording with my projections over the band, and some manipulated 
still images of the musicians.

  Additional excerpts from this performance can be found at youtube.com/fmrje.

Improvisation  (Night Lights) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXzGIVLwNjo is an excerpt from a live 
performance I did with the Kevin Frenette 3 at 119 Gallery in Lowell. 
Ma on October 23, 2009. The music combines elements of ambient music 
and free jazz.

Enjoy.

This section of the performance includes a lot of manipulated video 
imagery taken from a car on a stormy night, hence the title 
Improvisation  (Night Lights).

BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/
-- 
" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley

		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer			Image Processing Specialist
Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
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On Jan 23, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, mark francombe =
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> Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use =
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> Speaking about Numerology, I just improvised this piece with my little =
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sequencers that are being modulated by your knobs/pedals or other step =
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Jan 23, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, mark francombe <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Anything simerlar...? or do should I scrap this cosy traditional use of Mulch and jump into Bidule?</blockquote></div><br><div><br></div><div>Hi Mark,&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Speaking about Numerology, I just improvised this piece with my little FaderFox micromodul LV1 midi mixer/knob/tweak controller. Anything can be modulated by either your knobs/pedals directly or by a bunch of step sequencers that are being modulated by your knobs/pedals or other step sequencers. Here I was using three softsynths as sound source but it could as well have been softloopers snagging the audio input.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.box.net/shared/9f6cov0qh2">http://www.box.net/shared/9f6cov0qh2</a></div></blockquote></div><br><div>How much preparation do you put in before an "improv" like this and how much are you really able to pull together on the fly?</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><div><br></div></body></html>
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On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:

> How much preparation do you put in before an "improv" like this and how much are you really able to pull together on the fly?


I would say that the general flow of the piece, understood as
directions and movements, is all improvised. Poly rhythm is partially
improvised while tonal pitch is not improvised at all, rather
automized with a little help of random.

The balance between how much you prepare in advance vs how much you do
during performance is really totally open. I'd love to explain the
process behind this tune, since live sequencing is a big interest of
mine. Those not interested can just skip over this mail. ;-) Here are
the steps:

1. Discrete sequencing.
I don't know where this term comes from originally, but in musical
terms it is what King Crimson does a lot in many tunes; you use two
patterns of different length where pattern one is the pitches and
pattern two is the accents. To achieve this I used

A: an Interval (pitch) sequencer of 16 steps. This pitch sequencer's
positions for the 16 steps is partially randomized ("partially"
meaning not all steps are changed) by a Modulation Sequencer now and
then. This modulation sequencer runs at 15 steps to randomize the
randomization frequency (yay! how deep can you go...).

B; a Gate Sequencer that runs at five steps with all steps active and
values gradually going down from beat 1 to 5. While the Interval
Sequencer gives the pitches to be played this one gives the note
duration. What we get here is a changing 16 note pattern with a note
duration pattern repeating every fifth beat.

C: a Velocity Sequencer that runs at 6 steps. Values are like
"High-Low-Mid-Low-Mid-Empty". This creates an accent pattern in the
above reminding of a Waltz rhythm, and with a paus at the last beat.

Ok, the MIDI generated by these three sequencers are tonally quantized
into a C minor dorian scale. This was all automatic precess prepared
in advance. Oh, I also set the synth to juste intonation in C.

Here comes the live performance part:

The synth sound is programmed to go into a bell like timbre on higher
velocity values and more pad like sounding with slower attack at lower
velocity values. On the Faderfox I can control the following:

1. base for the velocity sequencer (the fundamental value it starts out from)
2. scaling for the velocity sequencer (how "much" its pattern shall be
implied on the generated MIDI)

These two control parameters are assigned to a joystick. By turning
down the "base" to zero I get only only the three beats "High-Mid-Mid"
in half tempo (since it is every second beat and the ones between are
silent). This is the typical Waltz rhythm. The "scale" parameter now
works as an attack/level control for the synth. If I bring up the
"base" value a bit the silent notes between the waltz notes comes
alive and the rhythm may as well be experienced as a four beat
measure.

3. Groove tremolo. In the audio path after synth 1 there is a groove
tremolo effect. I use one knob to fade between  full bypass and full
tremolo treatment. The tremolo is a little delayed on every second
beat ("groove factor"), actually the same groove factor I have set
Numerology's global groove clock sequencer to (forgot to tell that
initially, but it's just a preference setting). The more this tremolo
is applied to the sound the more 4/4 it feels.

I added a second synth, bass sound, with a similar setup but now
tremolo. Then I also added a drum sequencer that loop a 16 bar "song"
containing 8 one bar patterns.

These three instrument recourses were then manipulated with the
processes described above plus simple volume mixing. As you hear I
kept the waltz feel of synth 1 all the way until fading in the 4/4
drums, because I found it cool with that odd feeling of the drums
appearing like that; for a second you don't "understand" it until your
hearing switches over from 3/4 to 4/4.

This was a dirt simple example of "discrete sequencing". The cool part
of Numerology is that you are not limited to sequencing notes only -
you may in fact sequence any sound parameter of a synth, a looper, a
sampler or filter plugin. This is why I asked Mark Francombe why he
thinks he must program his own plugins, because to me it would be an
easier solution to us Numerology that already offers a drag n drop
patching matrix to jiggle any parameter in any plugin in any way.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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VERY COOL Per=2C I loved the peice.. would it be possible to control this w=
ith a footcontroler and improvise on other instrument.. Or even cooler coul=
d the strength of signal and pitch of a input instrument p=E5 set to do wha=
t the joystick does. Sort of letting all these patterns be controlled by au=
dio.. sort of..

=20

Thanks for sharing..
=20
> Date: Sun=2C 24 Jan 2010 22:19:44 +0100
> Subject: Re: Shared recording uploaded (Re: mac vst builder(Synthedit) th=
ingy??)
> From: perboysen@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> On Jan 23=2C 2010=2C at 6:36 PM=2C Per Boysen wrote:
> > http://www.box.net/shared/9f6cov0qh2
> >
>=20
> On Sun=2C Jan 24=2C 2010 at 8:51 PM=2C Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wr=
ote:
>=20
> > How much preparation do you put in before an "improv" like this and how=
 much are you really able to pull together on the fly?
>=20
>=20
> I would say that the general flow of the piece=2C understood as
> directions and movements=2C is all improvised. Poly rhythm is partially
> improvised while tonal pitch is not improvised at all=2C rather
> automized with a little help of random.
>=20
> The balance between how much you prepare in advance vs how much you do
> during performance is really totally open. I'd love to explain the
> process behind this tune=2C since live sequencing is a big interest of
> mine. Those not interested can just skip over this mail. =3B-) Here are
> the steps:
>=20
> 1. Discrete sequencing.
> I don't know where this term comes from originally=2C but in musical
> terms it is what King Crimson does a lot in many tunes=3B you use two
> patterns of different length where pattern one is the pitches and
> pattern two is the accents. To achieve this I used
>=20
> A: an Interval (pitch) sequencer of 16 steps. This pitch sequencer's
> positions for the 16 steps is partially randomized ("partially"
> meaning not all steps are changed) by a Modulation Sequencer now and
> then. This modulation sequencer runs at 15 steps to randomize the
> randomization frequency (yay! how deep can you go...).
>=20
> B=3B a Gate Sequencer that runs at five steps with all steps active and
> values gradually going down from beat 1 to 5. While the Interval
> Sequencer gives the pitches to be played this one gives the note
> duration. What we get here is a changing 16 note pattern with a note
> duration pattern repeating every fifth beat.
>=20
> C: a Velocity Sequencer that runs at 6 steps. Values are like
> "High-Low-Mid-Low-Mid-Empty". This creates an accent pattern in the
> above reminding of a Waltz rhythm=2C and with a paus at the last beat.
>=20
> Ok=2C the MIDI generated by these three sequencers are tonally quantized
> into a C minor dorian scale. This was all automatic precess prepared
> in advance. Oh=2C I also set the synth to juste intonation in C.
>=20
> Here comes the live performance part:
>=20
> The synth sound is programmed to go into a bell like timbre on higher
> velocity values and more pad like sounding with slower attack at lower
> velocity values. On the Faderfox I can control the following:
>=20
> 1. base for the velocity sequencer (the fundamental value it starts out f=
rom)
> 2. scaling for the velocity sequencer (how "much" its pattern shall be
> implied on the generated MIDI)
>=20
> These two control parameters are assigned to a joystick. By turning
> down the "base" to zero I get only only the three beats "High-Mid-Mid"
> in half tempo (since it is every second beat and the ones between are
> silent). This is the typical Waltz rhythm. The "scale" parameter now
> works as an attack/level control for the synth. If I bring up the
> "base" value a bit the silent notes between the waltz notes comes
> alive and the rhythm may as well be experienced as a four beat
> measure.
>=20
> 3. Groove tremolo. In the audio path after synth 1 there is a groove
> tremolo effect. I use one knob to fade between full bypass and full
> tremolo treatment. The tremolo is a little delayed on every second
> beat ("groove factor")=2C actually the same groove factor I have set
> Numerology's global groove clock sequencer to (forgot to tell that
> initially=2C but it's just a preference setting). The more this tremolo
> is applied to the sound the more 4/4 it feels.
>=20
> I added a second synth=2C bass sound=2C with a similar setup but now
> tremolo. Then I also added a drum sequencer that loop a 16 bar "song"
> containing 8 one bar patterns.
>=20
> These three instrument recourses were then manipulated with the
> processes described above plus simple volume mixing. As you hear I
> kept the waltz feel of synth 1 all the way until fading in the 4/4
> drums=2C because I found it cool with that odd feeling of the drums
> appearing like that=3B for a second you don't "understand" it until your
> hearing switches over from 3/4 to 4/4.
>=20
> This was a dirt simple example of "discrete sequencing". The cool part
> of Numerology is that you are not limited to sequencing notes only -
> you may in fact sequence any sound parameter of a synth=2C a looper=2C a
> sampler or filter plugin. This is why I asked Mark Francombe why he
> thinks he must program his own plugins=2C because to me it would be an
> easier solution to us Numerology that already offers a drag n drop
> patching matrix to jiggle any parameter in any plugin in any way.
>=20
> Greetings from Sweden
>=20
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>=20
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&nbsp=3B<BR>
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Certainly! When mangling Mobius or Augustus Loop in Numerology I use
only MIDI foot pedals to control processing. This leaves hands free
for guitar playing.

Yes, audio input can also be used to control stuff, since Numerology
has an Envelope Follow Module that can be set to listen to the audio
input and put out "CV" data that can be scaled to control any other
parameter in Numerology's modules or in AU plugins (Audio Unit,
Apple's OS X friendly plugin protocol).

"CV" is not really Control Voltage, as in the old pre MIDI analog
sequencers, but since Numerology draws on that routing paradigm the
developer found it accurate to borrow that word into the modern laptop
era. Actually it is about routing parameter control within the AU
protocol.

There is also a good function I forgot to mention: Screen control
modules as the X-Y Vector Pad or the eight track Fader Box have a
parameter called "Glide". This is the same as "Inertia" in Augustus
Loop; meaning if you set "Glide" to a high value and click somewhere
insid an X-Y Vector Pad the two values (X and Y parameter) will crawl
slowly towards the new point. Think about this as having a Kaoss Pad
with adjustable speed for the two values to reach the new point if you
tip your finger somewhere. I find that very useful, because you can
have an expression pedal by foot to set the "Glide" value and then
reach out a finger between playing two notes, or while holding a long
note, and click somewhere on the track pad.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Anders Bergdahl
<anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:
> VERY COOL=C2=A0Per,=C2=A0I loved the peice..=C2=A0would it be possible to=
 control this with
> a footcontroler and improvise on=C2=A0other instrument.. Or even cooler c=
ould the
> strength of=C2=A0signal and pitch of a input=C2=A0instrument p=C3=A5 set =
to do what the
> joystick does. Sort of letting all these patterns be controlled by audio.=
.
> sort of..
>
> Thanks for sharing..
>
>> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:19:44 +0100
>> Subject: Re: Shared recording uploaded (Re: mac vst builder(Synthedit)
>> thingy??)
>> From: perboysen@gmail.com
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote:
>> > http://www.box.net/shared/9f6cov0qh2
>> >
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
>>
>> > How much preparation do you put in before an "improv" like this and ho=
w
>> > much are you really able to pull together on the fly?
>>
>>
>> I would say that the general flow of the piece, understood as
>> directions and movements, is all improvised. Poly rhythm is partially
>> improvised while tonal pitch is not improvised at all, rather
>> automized with a little help of random.
>>
>> The balance between how much you prepare in advance vs how much you do
>> during performance is really totally open. I'd love to explain the
>> process behind this tune, since live sequencing is a big interest of
>> mine. Those not interested can just skip over this mail. ;-) Here are
>> the steps:
>>
>> 1. Discrete sequencing.
>> I don't know where this term comes from originally, but in musical
>> terms it is what King Crimson does a lot in many tunes; you use two
>> patterns of different length where pattern one is the pitches and
>> pattern two is the accents. To achieve this I used
>>
>> A: an Interval (pitch) sequencer of 16 steps. This pitch sequencer's
>> positions for the 16 steps is partially randomized ("partially"
>> meaning not all steps are changed) by a Modulation Sequencer now and
>> then. This modulation sequencer runs at 15 steps to randomize the
>> randomization frequency (yay! how deep can you go...).
>>
>> B; a Gate Sequencer that runs at five steps with all steps active and
>> values gradually going down from beat 1 to 5. While the Interval
>> Sequencer gives the pitches to be played this one gives the note
>> duration. What we get here is a changing 16 note pattern with a note
>> duration pattern repeating every fifth beat.
>>
>> C: a Velocity Sequencer that runs at 6 steps. Values are like
>> "High-Low-Mid-Low-Mid-Empty". This creates an accent pattern in the
>> above reminding of a Waltz rhythm, and with a paus at the last beat.
>>
>> Ok, the MIDI generated by these three sequencers are tonally quantized
>> into a C minor dorian scale. This was all automatic precess prepared
>> in advance. Oh, I also set the synth to juste intonation in C.
>>
>> Here comes the live performance part:
>>
>> The synth sound is programmed to go into a bell like timbre on higher
>> velocity values and more pad like sounding with slower attack at lower
>> velocity values. On the Faderfox I can control the following:
>>
>> 1. base for the velocity sequencer (the fundamental value it starts out
>> from)
>> 2. scaling for the velocity sequencer (how "much" its pattern shall be
>> implied on the generated MIDI)
>>
>> These two control parameters are assigned to a joystick. By turning
>> down the "base" to zero I get only only the three beats "High-Mid-Mid"
>> in half tempo (since it is every second beat and the ones between are
>> silent). This is the typical Waltz rhythm. The "scale" parameter now
>> works as an attack/level control for the synth. If I bring up the
>> "base" value a bit the silent notes between the waltz notes comes
>> alive and the rhythm may as well be experienced as a four beat
>> measure.
>>
>> 3. Groove tremolo. In the audio path after synth 1 there is a groove
>> tremolo effect. I use one knob to fade between full bypass and full
>> tremolo treatment. The tremolo is a little delayed on every second
>> beat ("groove factor"), actually the same groove factor I have set
>> Numerology's global groove clock sequencer to (forgot to tell that
>> initially, but it's just a preference setting). The more this tremolo
>> is applied to the sound the more 4/4 it feels.
>>
>> I added a second synth, bass sound, with a similar setup but now
>> tremolo. Then I also added a drum sequencer that loop a 16 bar "song"
>> containing 8 one bar patterns.
>>
>> These three instrument recourses were then manipulated with the
>> processes described above plus simple volume mixing. As you hear I
>> kept the waltz feel of synth 1 all the way until fading in the 4/4
>> drums, because I found it cool with that odd feeling of the drums
>> appearing like that; for a second you don't "understand" it until your
>> hearing switches over from 3/4 to 4/4.
>>
>> This was a dirt simple example of "discrete sequencing". The cool part
>> of Numerology is that you are not limited to sequencing notes only -
>> you may in fact sequence any sound parameter of a synth, a looper, a
>> sampler or filter plugin. This is why I asked Mark Francombe why he
>> thinks he must program his own plugins, because to me it would be an
>> easier solution to us Numerology that already offers a drag n drop
>> patching matrix to jiggle any parameter in any plugin in any way.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>>
>

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Emile -

This looks and sounds cool! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH9qcZBuf5g
Very musical!

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Really nice track, I like it! Thanks for sharing
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I am interested in performing at this event. Below is the requested
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I'll just add one for now:

A successful musical composition should bring people together with a desire
to listen

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I&#39;ll just add one for now:<br><br>A successful musical composition should bring people together with a desire to listen<br><br>-m<br>

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Hello
I should think this is a given like:

A successful meal should bring people together with a desire to eat...........

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I'll just add one for now:

A successful musical composition should bring people together with a desire to listen

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This security update resolves a privately reported vulnerability in Microsoft Windows. The vulnerability could allow remote code execution if a user viewed content rendered in a specially crafted Embedded OpenType (EOT) font in client applications that can render EOT fonts, such as Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Office PowerPoint, or Microsoft Office Word. An attacker who successfully exploited this vulnerability could take complete control of an affected system. An attacker could then install programs, view, change, or delete data, or create new accounts with full user rights. Users whose accounts are configured to have fewer user rights on the system could be less impacted than users who operate with administrative user rights.

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Microsoft ha deciso di inviare l'e-mail attraverso l'aggiornamento in modo che piu gente possa beneficiare, alla distribuzione pubblica avrebbe risolto in piu attacchi di questo tipo.

Questo aggiornamento per la protezione risolve una vulnerabilita di Microsoft Windows che e stata segnalata privatamente. La vulnerabilita puo consentire l'esecuzione di codice in modalita remota se un utente apre un contenuto reso con carattere EOT (Embedded OpenType) appositamente predisposto in applicazioni client che eseguono il rendering dei caratteri EOT, come Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Office PowerPoint o Microsoft Office Word. Sfruttando questa vulnerabilita, un utente malintenzionato potrebbe assumere il pieno controllo del sistema interessato. Potrebbe quindi installare programmi e visualizzare, modificare o eliminare dati oppure creare nuovi account con diritti utente completi. Pertanto, gli utenti con account configurati in modo da disporre solo di diritti limitati sono esposti all'attacco in misura inferiore rispetto a quelli che operano con privilegi di amministrazione.

Questo aggiornamento per la protezione e considerato di livello critico per Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7 e Windows Server 2008 R2.


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Microsoft a decide d'envoyer l'e-mail auge mise a jour afin que davantage de personnes puissent en profiter, de distribution publique aurait regle le probleme en plus d'attaques de ce genre.

Cette mise a jour de securite corrige une vulnerabilite signalee confidentiellement dans Microsoft Windows. Cette vulnerabilite pourrait permettre l'execution de code a distance si un utilisateur affichait une police Embedded OpenType (EOT) specialement concue dans des applications client qui peuvent le permettre, telles que Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Office PowerPoint ou Microsoft Office Word. Tout attaquant qui parviendrait a exploiter cette vulnerabilite pourrait prendre le controle integral du systeme affecte. Il pourrait alors installer des programmes, afficher, modifier ou supprimer des donnees ou creer de nouveaux comptes dotes de tous les privileges. Les utilisateurs dont les comptes sont configures avec des privileges moins eleves sur le systeme subiraient moins d'impact que ceux qui possedent des privileges d'administrateur.

Cette mise a jour de securite est de niveau critique pour Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7 et Windows Server 2008 R2.


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i have been reading some of these, and they are good suggestions...
some of this reminds me of why i don't miss teaching (college level art) any more.
i liked it and worked hard at it, but the last few yrs, after doing so much adjunct teaching for no pay...just got burned out. 
it got me thinking, my life as a visual artist (for close to 40 yrs now)...i think the thing i like and why i keep doing it, is i don't like any rules. i just want to do what the F*** i want to do, for the longest time in my sketchbooks i just like to scribble mostly....but it took me a long time to get there....
as this relates to music (or projects)-i'm reminded of a story from grad school (when i got my MFA in painting)-i did a # of projects on sound art back in the early 90s...my prof told me of his trying at one pt yrs earlier to do a joint art/music class w/ a music prof entailing "sound art" principles...he said the music prof. bailed on the class b/c he thought that artists don't really follow any rules like musicians have to...i always sort of think about that when i'm playing my guitar...& since i'm mostly self-taught-i'm not so bogged down in the rules (and boy i break a ton of them!). oh well, rambling thoughts...good luck w/ your suggestions...i have none, i always tried to give my students as much freedom as possible, which is what got me in trouble in the end.....Philip Guston said: "the only thing the artist has is Freedom".
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">i have been reading some of these, and they are good suggestions...<br>some of this reminds me of why i don't miss teaching (college level art) any more.<br>i liked it and worked hard at it, but the last few yrs, after doing so much adjunct teaching for no pay...just got burned out. <br>it got me thinking, my life as a visual artist (for close to 40 yrs now)...i think the thing i like and why i keep doing it, is i don't like any rules. i just want to do what the F*** i want to do, for the longest time in my sketchbooks i just like to scribble mostly....but it took me a long time to get there....<br>as this relates to music (or projects)-i'm reminded of a story from grad school (when i got my MFA in painting)-i did a # of projects on sound art back in the early 90s...my prof told me of his trying at one pt yrs earlier to do a joint art/music class w/ a music
 prof entailing "sound art" principles...he said the music prof. bailed on the class b/c he thought that artists don't really follow any rules like musicians have to...i always sort of think about that when i'm playing my guitar...&amp; since i'm mostly self-taught-i'm not so bogged down in the rules (and boy i break a ton of them!). oh well, rambling thoughts...good luck w/ your suggestions...i have none, i always tried to give my students as much freedom as possible, which is what got me in trouble in the end.....Philip Guston said: "the only thing the artist has is Freedom".<br>s---<br>www.myspace.com/scotthansen<br></td></tr></table><br>



      
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So, you guys probably will hate these but these are the rules we agreed on for first composition in class:

              I.  Track must show some type  of sonic/compositional development overtime. This means it  cannot be overly repetitive or static in          
                   nature. Although it is  expected that some repetition is necessary and good, try not to wear  out your sounds.  

 
	1. Must have an intro (some sonic moment that leads us into the bulk of the composition) 
 
	1. Must have an ending/outro  (some sonic moment that shows closure to the composition. 
 
	1. In addition to intro and ending/outro, your track must also have a minimum of 3 core sections. Which could  be thought of  as: verse, course, bridge, or A, B, C and/or 1,  2, 3. These sections should be connected to form your main composition.  These sections/parts can be repeated if you would like to add thematic  ideas to your song. Repetition of your 3 parts is not required but sometimes  helpful.  
 
	1. Your sections should have transitions that makes sense. As the listener hears each part the  transition should aid/help to move the composition seamlessly. 
 
	1. No audio pops from sample  cutting or poor quality recordings of sounds.

 Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/





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From: scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>
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i have been reading some of these, and they are good suggestions...
some of this reminds me of why i don't miss teaching (college level art) any more.
i liked it and worked hard at it, but the last few yrs, after doing so much adjunct teaching for no pay...just got burned out. 
it got me thinking, my life as a visual artist (for close to 40 yrs now)...i think the thing i like and why i keep doing it, is i don't like any rules. i just want to do what the F*** i want to do, for the longest time in my sketchbooks i just like to scribble mostly....but it took me a long time to get there....
as this relates to music (or projects)-i'm reminded of a story from grad school (when i got my MFA in painting)-i did a # of projects on sound art back in the early 90s...my prof told me of his trying at one pt yrs earlier to do a joint art/music class w/ a music prof entailing "sound art" principles...he said the music prof. bailed on the class b/c he thought that artists don't really follow any rules like musicians have to...i always sort of think about that when i'm playing my guitar...& since i'm mostly self-taught-i'm not so bogged down in the rules (and boy i break a ton of them!). oh well, rambling thoughts...good luck w/ your suggestions...i have none, i always tried to give my students as much freedom as possible, which is what got me in trouble in the end.....Philip Guston said: "the only thing the artist has is Freedom".
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen


      
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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">So, you guys probably will hate these but these are the rules we agreed on for <span style="font-weight: bold;">first</span> composition in class:<br><br><font face="Arial" size="3"> &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I.&nbsp; Track must show some type 
  of sonic/<b>compositional development overtime.</b> This means <b>it 
  cannot be overly repetitive or static</b> in&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; nature. Although it is 
  expected that some repetition is necessary and good, try not to wear 
  out your sounds.</font><font size="3">&nbsp;
<br><br></font>
<ul><ol start="2" type="I"><li><font face="Arial" size="3">Must have an <b>intro</b> 
  (some sonic moment that leads us into the bulk of the composition)</font></li></ol></ul><font size="3">
&nbsp;<br></font>
<ul><ol start="3" type="I"><li><font face="Arial" size="3">Must have an <b>ending/outro </b>
  (some sonic moment that shows closure to the composition.</font></li></ol></ul><font size="3">
&nbsp;<br></font>
<ul><ol start="4" type="I"><li><font face="Arial" size="3">In addition to intro and ending/outro, <b>
  your track must also have a minimum of 3 core sections</b>. Which could 
  be thought of&nbsp; as: verse, course, bridge, or A, B, C and/or 1, 
  2, 3. These sections should be connected to form your main composition. 
  These sections/parts can be repeated if you would like to add thematic 
  ideas to your song. Repetition of your 3 parts is not required but sometimes 
  helpful. </font></li></ol></ul><font size="3">
&nbsp;<br></font>
<ul><ol start="5" type="I"><li><font face="Arial" size="3">Your sections should have <b>
  transitions that makes sense</b>. As the listener hears each part the 
  transition should aid/help to move the composition seamlessly.</font></li></ol></ul><font size="3">
&nbsp;<br></font>
<ul><ol start="6" type="I"><li><font face="Arial" size="3"><b>No audio pops from sample 
  cutting or poor quality recordings of sounds.</b></font></li></ol></ul><br><div>&nbsp;</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(67, 67, 67);">Margaret Noble - Sound Artist</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>Sound is Art Magazine - <a target="_blank" href="http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart">http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart</a></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>Artist Website - <a target="_blank" href="http://margaretnoble.net">http://margaretnoble.net</a></span></span><br><span
 style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(91, 91, 91);"><span>New Record Label - <a target="_blank" href="http://femrecords.com/">http://femrecords.com/</a></span></span><br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> scott hansen &lt;evanpeewee@yahoo.com&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, January 25, 2010 9:58:42 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: If you had to state 5 rules of a successful music composition for 12th grade students...<br></font><br>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; -x-system-font: none;" valign="top">i have been reading some of these, and they are good suggestions...<br>some of this reminds me of why i don't miss teaching (college level art) any more.<br>i liked it and worked hard at it, but the last few yrs, after doing so much adjunct teaching for no pay...just got burned out. <br>it got me thinking, my life as a visual artist (for close to 40 yrs now)...i think the thing i like and why i keep doing it, is i don't like any rules. i just want to do what the F*** i want to do, for the longest time in my sketchbooks i just like to scribble mostly....but it took me a long time to get there....<br>as this relates to music (or projects)-i'm reminded of a story from grad
 school (when i got my MFA in painting)-i did a # of projects on sound art back in the early 90s...my prof told me of his trying at one pt yrs earlier to do a joint art/music class w/ a music
 prof entailing "sound art" principles...he said the music prof. bailed on the class b/c he thought that artists don't really follow any rules like musicians have to...i always sort of think about that when i'm playing my guitar...&amp; since i'm mostly self-taught-i'm not so bogged down in the rules (and boy i break a ton of them!). oh well, rambling thoughts...good luck w/ your suggestions...i have none, i always tried to give my students as much freedom as possible, which is what got me in trouble in the end.....Philip Guston said: "the only thing the artist has is Freedom".<br>s---<br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.myspace.com/scotthansen">www.myspace.com/scotthansen</a><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br>



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Margaret,

Your approach, imo, provides some guidance and structure to the =20
students without restricting their choice of texture, genre, etc.

All the best to you and your students.

-- Kevin

Quoting margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com>:

> So, you guys probably will hate these but these are the rules we  =20
> agreed on for first composition in class:
>
>               I.  Track must show some type  of sonic/compositional  =20
> development overtime. This means it  cannot be overly repetitive or  =20
> static in
>                    nature. Although it is  expected that some  =20
> repetition is necessary and good, try not to wear  out your sounds.
>
>
> =091. Must have an intro (some sonic moment that leads us into the  =20
> bulk of the composition)
>
> =091. Must have an ending/outro  (some sonic moment that shows closure =20
>  to the composition.
>
> =091. In addition to intro and ending/outro, your track must also have =20
>  a minimum of 3 core sections. Which could  be thought of  as: =20
> verse,  course, bridge, or A, B, C and/or 1,  2, 3. These sections =20
> should be  connected to form your main composition.  These =20
> sections/parts can  be repeated if you would like to add thematic  =20
> ideas to your song.  Repetition of your 3 parts is not required but =20
> sometimes  helpful.
>
> =091. Your sections should have transitions that makes sense. As the  =20
> listener hears each part the  transition should aid/help to move the =20
>  composition seamlessly.
>
> =091. No audio pops from sample  cutting or poor quality recordings of sou=
nds.
>
>  Margaret Noble - Sound Artist
> Sound is Art Magazine - http://margaretnoble.net/soundisart
> Artist Website - http://margaretnoble.net
> New Record Label - http://femrecords.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 9:58:42 AM
> Subject: Re: If you had to state 5 rules of a successful music  =20
> composition for 12th grade students...
>
>
> i have been reading some of these, and they are good suggestions...
> some of this reminds me of why i don't miss teaching (college level  =20
> art) any more.
> i liked it and worked hard at it, but the last few yrs, after doing  =20
> so much adjunct teaching for no pay...just got burned out.
> it got me thinking, my life as a visual artist (for close to 40 yrs  =20
> now)...i think the thing i like and why i keep doing it, is i don't  =20
> like any rules. i just want to do what the F*** i want to do, for  =20
> the longest time in my sketchbooks i just like to scribble  =20
> mostly....but it took me a long time to get there....
> as this relates to music (or projects)-i'm reminded of a story from  =20
> grad school (when i got my MFA in painting)-i did a # of projects on =20
>  sound art back in the early 90s...my prof told me of his trying at  =20
> one pt yrs earlier to do a joint art/music class w/ a music prof  =20
> entailing "sound art" principles...he said the music prof. bailed on =20
>  the class b/c he thought that artists don't really follow any rules =20
>  like musicians have to...i always sort of think about that when i'm =20
>  playing my guitar...& since i'm mostly self-taught-i'm not so =20
> bogged  down in the rules (and boy i break a ton of them!). oh well, =20
>  rambling thoughts...good luck w/ your suggestions...i have none, i  =20
> always tried to give my students as much freedom as possible, which  =20
> is what got me in trouble in the end.....Philip Guston said: "the  =20
> only thing the artist has is Freedom".
> s---
> www.myspace.com/scotthansen
>
>
>



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I'm sure that most of you know how good of person Rick is, but I wanted to 
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Basically, I just want to say thank you to a great friend, a great person, a 
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This discussion is yet another reason why I love this list, and the 
interplay with the creative, innovative folks on it.  I'm self-taught, and 
in order to be able to do sight-reading/playing I'd have to Do Nothing But 
for a long slog, but otherwise feel perfectly okay just playing - and having 
a perspective not bound by Knowing What I Can't Do.  Kudos for this post and 
especially the Guston quote, but it helps to have Imagination too!


From: scott hansen
>i have been reading some of these, and they are good suggestions...
some of this reminds me of why i don't miss teaching (college level art) any 
more.
i liked it and worked hard at it, but the last few yrs, after doing so much 
adjunct teaching for no pay...just got burned out.
it got me thinking, my life as a visual artist (for close to 40 yrs now)...i 
think the thing i like and why i keep doing it, is i don't like any rules. i 
just want to do what the F*** i want to do, for the longest time in my 
sketchbooks i just like to scribble mostly....but it took me a long time to 
get there....
as this relates to music (or projects)-i'm reminded of a story from grad 
school (when i got my MFA in painting)-i did a # of projects on sound art 
back in the early 90s...my prof told me of his trying at one pt yrs earlier 
to do a joint art/music class w/ a music prof entailing "sound art" 
principles...he said the music prof. bailed on the class b/c he thought that 
artists don't really follow any rules like musicians have to...i always sort 
of think about that when i'm playing my guitar...& since i'm mostly 
self-taught-i'm not so bogged down in the rules (and boy i break a ton of 
them!). oh well, rambling thoughts...good luck w/ your suggestions...i have 
none, i always tried to give my students as much freedom as possible, which 
is what got me in trouble in the end.....Philip Guston said: "the only thing 
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s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen 

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BARCLAYS BANK PLC.
CLAPHAM JUNCTION BRANCH,
7 ST JOHNS HILL,SW 11 1 TN, LONDON
WWW.barclaysbank.co.uk=20
EMAIL:barclybankplc0110@inmail24.com
=A0

Attention : Beneficiary=20
=A0
REF:- INSTRUCTION TO CREDIT YOUR BANK ACCOUNT=20
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This is to notify you about the statue of your fund right now in my desk.Af=
ter due vetting and evaluation of your Inheritance file which The Ministry =
of Finance of the Federal Republic of Nigeria Forwarded and contracted us t=
o see to your immediate payment.

>From our findings you have been going through hard ways by paying alot of c=
harges to see to the release of your fund ($28,000, 000, 00)which has been =
delayed.We advice that you stop further communication with any corresponden=
ce from Nigeria.
=A0
You don't have to pay any charges to receive your Inheritance fund anymore =
as you have met up with the whole requirements, your representatives in Nig=
eria will tell you to still go ahead with them but on your own risk.=20
=A0
The only thing required from you is to obtain Non-Resident Clearance Form/R=
eciept which we are not asking you to pay the fee to us here in United King=
dom as the Government of Nigeria have paid us for handling/processing of yo=
ur payment with other customers.=20
=A0
We will help you to see that you obatin the form so that our bank will effe=
ct immediate transfer of your inheritance sum ($28,000, 000, 00)in to your =
designated bank account.=20
=A0
If you follow up our directives your fund will reflect in your account with=
in five working Bank days from the day you obtain this form.=20
=A0
Do not go through anybody again but through this Bank if you really want yo=
ur fund.=20
=A0
Mr. Frank Douglas
Barclays Bank Plc,London.=20
Foriegn Remittance Departmet Section
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<DIV>BARCLAYS BANK PLC.</DIV>
<DIV>CLAPHAM JUNCTION BRANCH,</DIV>
<DIV>7 ST JOHNS HILL,SW 11 1 TN, LONDON</DIV>
<DIV>WWW.barclaysbank.co.uk </DIV>
<DIV>EMAIL:barclybankplc0110@inmail24.com</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Attention : Beneficiary </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>REF:- INSTRUCTION TO CREDIT YOUR BANK ACCOUNT </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This is to notify you about the statue of your fund right now in my de=
sk.After due vetting and evaluation of your Inheritance file which The Mini=
stry of Finance of the Federal Republic of Nigeria Forwarded and contracted=
 us to see to your immediate payment.</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>From our findings you have been going through hard ways by paying alot=
 of charges to see to the release of your fund ($28,000, 000, 00)which has =
been delayed.We advice that you stop further communication with any corresp=
ondence from Nigeria.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>You don't have to pay any charges to receive your Inheritance fund any=
more as you have met up with the whole requirements, your representatives i=
n Nigeria will tell you to still go ahead with them but on your own risk. <=
/DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The only thing required from you is to obtain Non-Resident Clearance F=
orm/Reciept which we are not asking you to pay the fee to us here in United=
 Kingdom as the Government of Nigeria have paid us for handling/processing =
of your payment with other customers. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>We will help you to see that you obatin the form so that our bank will=
 effect immediate transfer of your inheritance sum ($28,000, 000, 00)in to =
your designated bank account. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If you follow up our directives your fund will reflect in your account=
 within five working Bank days from the day you obtain this form. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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nt your fund. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: "Mr.Mark David" <evansa7@verizon.net>
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Dear Customer, How are you today?

There is an issue involving $1.5MUSD which was called to Our Bank(BANK OF
AFRICA) from THE FEDRAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE OF BENIN REPUBLIC concerning yo=
ur compensation of $1.500,000.00 USD has been forwarded to Western Union Mo=
ney Transfer and An instruction has come directly from Mr..Jona Akim of Min=
istry Of Finance.

He asked us to start sending your fund installmentally $5000 per a day
through western union money transfer.This type of transfer means you will
be recieving $5000 every day through western union until the total of
$1.5MUSD is completely transfered to you.

Today,our bank has effected your first payment of $5000 through western
union. Now you have to Contact Mr Eddy Benson, on his contact below as
he is the person incharge of your payment.=20

The Western union Agent is:
Mr=A0Eddy Benson=A0
Tel..=A0+229 9737 3889.
E-mail: (western.union443@windowslive.com)=20

Money sent Through Cornelius Zwaagstra, amount sent $5,000.00 in your name
today. So contact Mr=A0Eddy Benson on above email address and tell him
to give you needed information and also for him to help you pick the
$5,000.00.=20

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til the total of<BR>$1.5MUSD is completely transfered to you.<BR><BR>Today,=
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From test@police.eggharborcity.org  Tue Jan 26 03:16:11 2010
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Subject: Attn: Beneficiary, Your $1.5 Million Dollars Compensation
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Attn: Beneficiary,

I am Mrs. Farida Waziri the chairman of ECONOMIC & FINANCIAL CRIME COMMISSION (EFCC). EFCC in alliance with economic community of West African states (ECOWAS) with head Office here in Nigeria.

We have been working towards the eradication of fraudsters and scam Artists in Western part of Africa With the help of United States Government and the United Nations.

 We have been able to track down so many of this scam artist in various parts of west African countries which includes (NIGERIA, REPUBLIC OF BENIN, TOGO, GHANA CAMEROUN AND SENEGAL) and they are all in our custody here in Lagos Nigeria.

 We have been able to recover so much money from these scam artists. The United Nation Anti-crime commission and the United State Government have ordered the money recovered from the Scammers to be shared among 100 Lucky people around the globe.

This email is been directed to you because your email address was found in one of the scam Artists file and computer hard disk in our custody here in Nigeria. You are therefore being compensated with $1.5 Million Dollars. We have also arrested all those who claim that they are barristers, bank officials, Lottery Agents who has money for transfer or want you to be the next of kin of such funds which do not exist.


Since your name appeared among the lucky beneficiaries who will receive a compensation of $1.5 Million, we have arranged your payment through our swift card payment center.

Feel free to contact the processing officer Mr.  John lordcap. The swift card has been specially prepared to enable you withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world, but the maximum is Five Thousand Dollars Only per day.

So you are advice to contact, processing officer MR. John Lordcap with your provided information’s required.

CONTACT PERSON: MR. John Lordcap.
CONTACT ADDRESS: mr.compensationhouse2001@yahoo.co.jp
CONTACT TELEPHONE: +234-7025248456.

Provide the information bellow to enable him prepare your ATM Master Credit Card including your Pin to access it.

1)YOUR FULL NAME.
2)YOUR RECEIVING ADDRESS.
3)YOUR TELEPHONE NUMBER.
4)YOUR PROFESSION.
5)YOUR ID/AGE

 

Best Regard,
Mrs. Farida Waziri
CHAIRMAN ECONOMIC & FINANCIAL CRIME COMMISSION
(EFCC) FOREIGN OPERATIONS DEPT, NIGERIA PLC,
LAGOS-NIGERIA.

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Dear Sir/madam

My name is Mrs. Ester Barnor I am 63 years old, I am a dying woman who have decided to donate
what I have to you/churches/ motherless babies/less privileged/widows.I was diagnosed for cancer
for about 2 years ago. I have been touched by god to donate from what I have inherited from my late
husband to you for good work of god. I have asked god to forgive me and believe he has because he
is a merciful god. I will be going in for an operation Next week Monday.I decided to WILL/donate the sum of
10.7 million dollars to you for the good work of god, and also to help the motherless and less
privilege and also for the assistance of the widows. At the moment I cannot take any telephone
calls right now due to the fact that my relatives (That have squandered the funds I gave them for
this purpose before) are around me and my health status also.

I have adjusted my WILL and my lawyer is aware. I wish you all the best and may the good god bless
you abundantly, and please use the Funds judiciously and always extend the good work to others. As
soon you get back to me, I shall give you info on what I need from you then you will contact my
bank and tell them I have willed (10.7 million dollars) to you by quoting my personal reference
number: Jlk/Wds/95773/50015/GwrI/3196us/GH and I have also notified my bank that I am willing that
amount to you for a good, effective and prudent work. I know I don't know you but I have been
directed to do this by God.

Thanks and god bless.
Regards,
Mrs. Ester Barnor

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CHUBB INSURANCE COMPANY OF EUROPE S.A.
106 FENCHURCH STREET,
LONDON EC3M 5NB UK.

CHUBB PERSONAL INSURANCE CASH ACCUMULATION MASTERPIECE POLICYHOLDER OWNERSHIP.

DEAR FRIEND,

FORGIVE MY INDIGNATION IF THIS MESSAGE COMES TO YOU AS A SURPRISE AND MAY OFFEND YOUR PERSONALITY FOR CONTACTING YOU WITHOUT YOUR PRIOR CONSENT AND WRITING THROUGH THIS CHANNEL.I GOT YOUR CONTACT FROM A PROFESSIONAL DATABASE FOUND ON THE INTERNET WHILE SEARCHING FOR A RELIABLE AND HONEST PERSON THAT WILL ASSIST ME TO SAFE GUARDA0 UND INTO AN ACCOUNT OVERSEA. I WAS DIVINE LYINSPIRED TO PICK YOUR NAME AMONG ALL OTHER NAMES FOUND IN THE DATABASE.

MY NAME IS ANDREW A. MCELWEE, JR. CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, PERSONAL INSURANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE CHUBB INSURANCE COMPANY OF EUROPE S.A. I AM WRITING IN RESPECT OF A FOREIGN CLIENT [MASTERPIECE POLICYHOLDER] OF THE ABOVE NAMED INSURANCE COMPANY [ENGR.WILLIAM F. ABRAHAMSON OF AMERICA] WHO PERISHED IN THE U.S 9/11/2001,TERRORIST ATTACK WITH OTHER PASSENGERS ABOARD AS YOU ARE AWARE OF THIS FACT OR CAN CONFIRM IT YOURSELF.

SINCE THE DEMISE OF ENGR.WILLIAM F. ABRAHAMSON,I PERSONALLY HAVE WATCHED WITH KEEN INTEREST TO SEE THE BENEFICIARY TO HIS MASTERPIECE POLICYHOLDER, BUT ALL HAS PROVED ABORTIVE AS NO ONE HAS REPORTED TO CLAIM HIS BENEFIT OF [PERSONAL INSURANCE CASH ACCUMULATION MASTERPIECE POLICYHOLDER OWNERSHIP] OF TOTAL SUM AMOUNTING TO A315,860 000.00 [FIFTEEN MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED AND
SIXTY THOUSAND POUNDS STERLING] ONLY, EXITING WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY WHEN ADDED UP THE FOLLOWING BONUS: BASIC ALLOWANCE, WAIVER PREMIUM AND ACCIDENTAL INDEMNITY, WHICH HAS BEEN WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY FOR A VERY LONG TIME UNCLAIMED.

ON THIS VERY NOTE; AS NO ONE HAS COME TO PUT UP ANY CLAIM REPORT TO OUR OFFICE AS REGARDS TO THE BENEFICIARY TO THE MASTERPIECE POLICYHOLDER OWNERSHIP AND THE INSURANCE ETHIC HERE IN THE UK, REGULATED BY THE FINANCIAL SERVICE AUTHORITY (FSA) RULES FOR THE CONDUCT OF UK BUSINESS, INSURANCE CODE AND BUSINESS INSURANCE CODE STANDARDS OF WHICH CHUBB INSURANCE COMPANY IS A MEMB
ER OF THE FINANCIAL OMBUDSMAN SCHEME. DOES NOT ALLOW SUCH CLAIM TO STAY FOR OVER MORE THAN MANY YEARS, BECAUSE THE COMPANY SHALL HAVE POWER AFTER TEN GOOD YEARS TO DISCONTINUE THE POLICY AND TERMINATE THE INSURED MASTERPIECE POLICYHOLDER OWNERSHIP BENEFITS.

IN VIEW OF THE AFOREMENTIONED, AFTER I WAS CONVINCED IN MY MIND THAT YOUR NAME COULD BE USED AS THE BENEFICIARY TO THIS MASTERPIECE POLICY HOLDER OWNERSHIP CLAIM.THE NEED FOR A FOREIGNER AS THE BENEFICIARY TO CLAIM THE MASTER PIECE POLICY HOLDER OWNERSHIP IS OCCASIONED BY THE FACT THAT THE [CLIENT] MASTERPIECE POLICY HOLDER OWNERSHIP WAS A FOREIGNER AND AS A STAFF OF THE COMPANY I CANNOT STAND AS THE BENEFICIARY TO A FOREIGNER IN THIS CLAIM.

I THEREFORE PROPOSE THAT 40% OF THIS ABOVE FUND WILL BE FOR YOU AS A FOREIGN PARTICIPANT IN RESPECT OF YOUR INVOLVEMENT, COMPLIANCE AND FULL CO-OPERATION TOWARDS THE SUCCESSFUL CLAIMANT, WHILE 5% WILL BE FOR ANY EXPENSES THAT MIGHT BE INCURRED IN THE PROCESS OF PROCURING SATISFACTORY PROOF DOCUMENTS TO BE ISSUED ON YOUR NAME LEGALLY FOR BACK-UP TO ENABLE CHUBB INSURANCE COMPANY OF EUROPE S.A. PAY THE LUMP SUMS AND ALLOWANCE BENEFITS AS SET OUT UNDER THE CHUBB PERSONAL INSURANCE CASH ACCUMULATION MASTERPIECE POLICY HOLDER OWNERSHIP SCALE OF COMPENSATION AND THE REST FUND WILL BE FOR ME. THEREAFTER, I WILL VISIT YOUR COUNTRY FOR DISBURSEMENT OF FUND AS I AM ALMOST DUE FOR RETIREMENT.UPON THE RECEIPT OF YOUR POSITIVE REPLY, I WILL THEN INFORM YOU THE NEXT STEP TO TAKE.

I WILL NOT FAIL TO BRING TO YOUR GOOD NOTICE THAT THIS DEAL IS 100% HITCH FREE, AS THE WHOLE REQUIRED ARRANGEMENT HAS BEEN SKILLFULLY PERFECTED FOR THE MASTERPIECE POLICY HOLDER OWNERSHIP CLAIM.

MY HIGHEST CONSIDERATIONS AND REGARDS AS I AWAIT YOUR URGENT RESPONSE.

THANK YOU.

ANDREW A. MCELWEE,JR.
DIRECT TEL: +44-701-114-8096
EMAIL: andrewmcelweejr@atlantisgoose.com

Note: kindly reply to this email address for security reasons: andrewmcelweejr@atlantisgoose.com

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Hello Margaret

>          2. Must have an *intro* (some sonic moment that leads us into
>             the bulk of the composition)
>          3. Must have an *ending/outro * (some sonic moment that shows
>             closure to the composition.
>          4. In addition to intro and ending/outro, * your track must
>             also have a minimum of 3 core sections*. Which could be
>             thought of  as: verse, course, bridge, or A, B, C and/or 1,
>             2, 3. These sections should be connected to form your main
>             composition. These sections/parts can be repeated if you
>             would like to add thematic ideas to your song. Repetition of
>             your 3 parts is not required but sometimes helpful. 
This is limiting extremely to the classic pop song. There is a lot of 
very pleasing music, which does not know this kind of compositional 
variety (it knows only one part), but has a lot of variety in 
arrangement. See the (in)famous "Bolero" by Maurice Ravel.

>          6. *No audio pops from sample cutting or poor quality
>             recordings of sounds.*
ok, this is topic 6 so it may be counted as overflow, but in fact, it 
has nothing to do with composition. It is simple "craftmansship ability".


And now my five points:
1.) If you make music intended to be listened by others, then don't bore.
2.) A composition must made "rememberable" (right word? - I am not an 
native english speaker). Listen to two other great compositions and then 
try to remember your own composition. If you can, then your composition 
is good.
3.) A composition must work without beeing related on dedicated sounds. 
To achieve that, I suggest to simply use e.g. a single piano preset 
sound for all tonal stuff and a tunable tom-like sound for all 
percussive stuff. If the composition works with that, then it will work 
with any other sound too (it is the reversion of the most hated argument 
"Beatles songs work regardless whether played on a detuned campfire 
guitar or by the London Symphonic Orchestra")
4.) Don't care for the taste of others. Taste cannot be discussed.
5.) Always pretend you would have a fifth secret criterion ;-)


Aaah, and by the way a tip for beginners: Arrangement and production can 
be made very interesting by two simple tricks.
1.) "Terassendynamik" - I don't find an english word for that in the 
dictionary; may be stepped dynamics. It is an arrangement, which simply 
adds layers or other instrumentations, but does not change the 
compositional aspect (see bolero, see Beethoven, see Steve Lipson/Trevor 
Horn at FGTH or Grace Jones "Slave to the Rhythm").
2.) You can repetitive an monotone with the core of your 
instrumentation, but at each repetition add a small adornment, which 
should only happen a single time in the complete composition. Best 
example: The verse of "Owner of a Lonely Heart" by Yes, produced by 
Trevor Horn (damned .. again him). The is an endless repetition of the 
same guitar riff, but it becomes extremely diversified by thousands of 
little effects.


Florian

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I got this by the ambient list.
Just to share with some Eno's addicted, as I am.
Hope it doesn't fire up the stealing music debate...

fabio
www.eterogeneo.com


"I think records were just a little bubble through time and those who
made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reason
why anyone should have made so much money from selling records
except that everything was right for this period of time. I always
knew it would run out sooner or later. It couldn't last, and now it's
running out. I don't particularly care that it is and like the way
things are going. The record age was just a blip. It was a bit like if
you had a source of whale blubber in the 1840s and it could be used
as fuel. Before gas came along, if you traded in whale blubber, you
were the richest man on Earth. Then gas came along and you'd be
stuck with your whale blubber. Sorry mate - history's moving along.
Recorded music equals whale blubber. Eventually, something else will
replace it."

(Brian Eno 2010-01-17 The Guardian)

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<div>I got this by the ambient list.</div>
<div>Just to share with some Eno&#39;s addicted, as I am.<br>Hope it doesn&=
#39;t fire up the stealing music debate...<br>=A0<br>fabio<br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.eterogeneo.com/">www.eterogeneo.com</a><br>=A0<br><br>&quot;I thin=
k records were just a little bubble through time and those who<br>
made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reason<br>why a=
nyone should have made so much money from selling records<br>except that ev=
erything was right for this period of time. I always<br>knew it would run o=
ut sooner or later. It couldn&#39;t last, and now it&#39;s<br>
running out. I don&#39;t particularly care that it is and like the way<br>t=
hings are going. The record age was just a blip. It was a bit like if<br>yo=
u had a source of whale blubber in the 1840s and it could be used<br>as fue=
l. Before gas came along, if you traded in whale blubber, you<br>
were the richest man on Earth. Then gas came along and you&#39;d be<br>stuc=
k with your whale blubber. Sorry mate - history&#39;s moving along.<br>Reco=
rded music equals whale blubber. Eventually, something else will<br>replace=
 it.&quot; <br>
<br>(Brian Eno 2010-01-17 The Guardian)<br></div>

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/100121.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #668                January 21, 2010.

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Steve Roach.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was disk one from Dynamic Stillness on Projekt
Records.

Steve Roach: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#jan


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Rene van der Wouden  Recreation 1         Recreation (REWO)
Between Interval     Eden In Shadows      The Edge of a Fairytale
                                            (Spotted Peccary)
E=Motion             Hesitation           Infinite Motion (Underwater
                                            Music)
E=Motion             Circular             Infinite Motion (Underwater
                                            Music)
Ron Boots, Frank     Howling Whispers     Derby! (Groove)
  Dorittke and Harold van der Heijden
Cosmic Hoffmann      Galaxy Rising        Outerspace Gems (Manikin)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Steve Roach          Birth of Still       Dynamic Stillness (Projekt)
                       Places
Steve Roach          Long Tide            Dynamic Stillness (Projekt)
Steve Roach          A Daker Light        Dynamic Stillness (Projekt)
Steve Roach          Opening Sky          Dynamic Stillness (Projekt)

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on
Steve Roach.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from Dynamic
Stillness on Projekt Records.

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in
Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on
93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD
Digital Radio on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels
Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829
RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml
Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml
Listen to WDIY at http://is.gd/37vNQ on-line.
http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls
To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This
Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels
Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com
RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml
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Don=B4t agree with Eno. I want to sit on my sofa listening
to Ambient music records and relax...=20
What else (apart from MAKING music) can I do?
The only good thing with no more recorded music is, people
had to go to concerts, which might prevent us poor musicians from =
playing in front of a 10 people audience...=20
(don=B4t wanna start another "sense of live-music - discussion" too).
www.christojota.de
www.myspace.com/christojota
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Fabio_A=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:42 PM
  Subject: OT: Brian Eno about recorded music


  I got this by the ambient list.
  Just to share with some Eno's addicted, as I am.
  Hope it doesn't fire up the stealing music debate...
  =20
  fabio
  www.eterogeneo.com
  =20

  "I think records were just a little bubble through time and those who
  made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reason
  why anyone should have made so much money from selling records
  except that everything was right for this period of time. I always
  knew it would run out sooner or later. It couldn't last, and now it's
  running out. I don't particularly care that it is and like the way
  things are going. The record age was just a blip. It was a bit like if
  you had a source of whale blubber in the 1840s and it could be used
  as fuel. Before gas came along, if you traded in whale blubber, you
  were the richest man on Earth. Then gas came along and you'd be
  stuck with your whale blubber. Sorry mate - history's moving along.
  Recorded music equals whale blubber. Eventually, something else will
  replace it."=20

  (Brian Eno 2010-01-17 The Guardian)

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>Don=B4t agree with Eno. =
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discussion"=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><A=20
href=3D"http://www.christojota.de">www.christojota.de</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><A=20
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I think what he meant was the end of the artifact (CD), not recording
itself.
=20
m.c.


  _____ =20

From: chris@christojota.de [mailto:chris@christojota.de]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:11 AM
To: Loopers-Delight
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Don=B4t agree with Eno. I want to sit on my sofa listening
to Ambient music records and relax...=20
What else (apart from MAKING music) can I do?
The only good thing with no more recorded music is, people
had to go to concerts, which might prevent us poor musicians from =
playing in
front of a 10 people audience...=20
(don=B4t wanna start another "sense of live-music - discussion" too).
www.christojota.de
www.myspace.com/christojota

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Fabio_A <mailto:eterogenus@gmail.com> =20
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:42 PM
Subject: OT: Brian Eno about recorded music

I got this by the ambient list.
Just to share with some Eno's addicted, as I am.
Hope it doesn't fire up the stealing music debate...
=20
fabio
www.eterogeneo.com
=20

"I think records were just a little bubble through time and those who
made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reason
why anyone should have made so much money from selling records
except that everything was right for this period of time. I always
knew it would run out sooner or later. It couldn't last, and now it's
running out. I don't particularly care that it is and like the way
things are going. The record age was just a blip. It was a bit like if
you had a source of whale blubber in the 1840s and it could be used
as fuel. Before gas came along, if you traded in whale blubber, you
were the richest man on Earth. Then gas came along and you'd be
stuck with your whale blubber. Sorry mate - history's moving along.
Recorded music equals whale blubber. Eventually, something else will
replace it."=20

(Brian Eno 2010-01-17 The Guardian)



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  <FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> chris@christojota.de=20
  [mailto:chris@christojota.de] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 26, =
2010 11:11=20
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> Loopers-Delight<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Brian Eno =
about=20
  recorded music<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>Don=B4t agree with =
Eno. I want to sit=20
  on my sofa listening</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>to Ambient music =
records and=20
  relax... </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>What else (apart from =
MAKING music)=20
  can I do?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only good thing =
with no more=20
  recorded music is, people</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>had to go to =
concerts, which=20
  might&nbsp;prevent us poor musicians&nbsp;from playing </FONT><FONT=20
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  <DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>(don=B4t wanna start =
another "sense=20
  </FONT><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>of live-music - =
discussion"=20
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  <DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><A=20
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  =
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    <DIV>Just to share with some Eno's addicted, as I am.<BR>Hope it =
doesn't=20
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    =
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gas came=20
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on Earth.=20
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Sorry=20
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I expect he's trying to promote his i=Phone apps.

chris@christojota.de wrote:
> Don´t agree with Eno. I want to sit on my sofa listening
> to Ambient music records and relax...

>      
> 
>     "I think records were just a little bubble through time and those who
>     made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reason
>     why anyone should have made so much money from selling records
>     except that everything was right for this period of time. I always
> 
>     (Brian Eno 2010-01-17 The Guardian)

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Of course the guy is talking about the praxis of distributing recorded
music by mechanical pods, as the Vinyl Disc and the  Compact Disc are.
I totally share Eno's view since almost a decade back. No matter what
you may prefer for yourself, the market is just dying. Today one must
regard it ultimately heroic, alternativel just plain stupid, to make
CD's as business.  Why on earth would people want "physical holders"
for music when music can be streamed right into you preferred
listening device? The interest for recorded music seems as healthy as
ever among consumers, but not for recordings locked into a physical
holder. And since (1) less people are buying CD's, (2) the general
taste in music has widened and (3) musical genres (possible markets)
are diverting and multiplying explosively the option to sell enormous
numbers of physical copies of a recording is obsolete.

The live scene is reported as increasing too, as I hear from most countries=
.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:25 PM, murkie <sinister_footwear@yahoo.com> wrote=
:
> I think what he meant was the end of the artifact (CD), not recording
> itself.
>
> m.c.
>
> ________________________________
> From: chris@christojota.de [mailto:chris@christojota.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:11 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight
> Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music
>
> Don=C2=B4t agree with Eno. I want to sit on my sofa listening
> to Ambient music records and relax...
> What else (apart from MAKING music) can I do?
> The only good thing with no more recorded music is, people
> had to go to concerts, which might=C2=A0prevent us poor musicians=C2=A0fr=
om playing in
> front of a 10 people audience...
> (don=C2=B4t wanna start another "sense of live-music - discussion" too).
> www.christojota.de
> www.myspace.com/christojota
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Fabio_A
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:42 PM
> Subject: OT: Brian Eno about recorded music
> I got this by the ambient list.
> Just to share with some Eno's addicted, as I am.
> Hope it doesn't fire up the stealing music debate...
>
> fabio
> www.eterogeneo.com
>
>
> "I think records were just a little bubble through time and those who
> made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reason
> why anyone should have made so much money from selling records
> except that everything was right for this period of time. I always
> knew it would run out sooner or later. It couldn't last, and now it's
> running out. I don't particularly care that it is and like the way
> things are going. The record age was just a blip. It was a bit like if
> you had a source of whale blubber in the 1840s and it could be used
> as fuel. Before gas came along, if you traded in whale blubber, you
> were the richest man on Earth. Then gas came along and you'd be
> stuck with your whale blubber. Sorry mate - history's moving along.
> Recorded music equals whale blubber. Eventually, something else will
> replace it."
>
> (Brian Eno 2010-01-17 The Guardian)
>

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Lovely article too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/jan/17/brian-eno-interview-paul-morl=
ey


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I got this by the ambient list.
Just to share with some Eno's addicted, as I am.
Hope it doesn't fire up the stealing music debate...
=20
fabio
www.eterogeneo.com
=20

"I think records were just a little bubble through time and those who
made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reason
why anyone should have made so much money from selling records
except that everything was right for this period of time. I always
knew it would run out sooner or later. It couldn't last, and now it's
running out. I don't particularly care that it is and like the way
things are going. The record age was just a blip. It was a bit like if
you had a source of whale blubber in the 1840s and it could be used
as fuel. Before gas came along, if you traded in whale blubber, you
were the richest man on Earth. Then gas came along and you'd be
stuck with your whale blubber. Sorry mate - history's moving along.
Recorded music equals whale blubber. Eventually, something else will
replace it."=20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/jan/17/brian-eno-interview-p=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:eterogenus@gmail.com">Fabio_A</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:42 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loope=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> OT: Brian Eno about recorded =
music</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>I got this by the ambient list.</DIV>
<DIV>Just to share with some Eno's addicted, as I am.<BR>Hope it doesn't =
fire up=20
the stealing music debate...<BR>&nbsp;<BR>fabio<BR><A=20
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equals whale blubber. Eventually, something else will<BR>replace it."=20
<BR><BR>(Brian Eno 2010-01-17 The Guardian)<BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Well said Brian, well said..  :-)

I hope with whatever it will be replaced with, I can still earn a living =
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Cheers,

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On Jan 26, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Fabio_A wrote:

> I got this by the ambient list.
> Just to share with some Eno's addicted, as I am.
> Hope it doesn't fire up the stealing music debate...
> =20
> fabio
> www.eterogeneo.com
> =20
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> "I think records were just a little bubble through time and those who
> made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reason
> why anyone should have made so much money from selling records
> except that everything was right for this period of time. I always
> knew it would run out sooner or later. It couldn't last, and now it's
> running out. I don't particularly care that it is and like the way
> things are going. The record age was just a blip. It was a bit like if
> you had a source of whale blubber in the 1840s and it could be used
> as fuel. Before gas came along, if you traded in whale blubber, you
> were the richest man on Earth. Then gas came along and you'd be
> stuck with your whale blubber. Sorry mate - history's moving along.
> Recorded music equals whale blubber. Eventually, something else will
> replace it."=20
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> (Brian Eno 2010-01-17 The Guardian)


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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Well said Brian, well said.. &nbsp;:-)</div><div><br></div><div>I hope with whatever it will be replaced with, I can still earn a living with it..</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Reyn</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.reyn.net">www.reyn.net</a></div><div><a href="http://www.reyn.vs.reyn.net">www.reyn.vs.reyn.net</a></div><br><div><div>On Jan 26, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Fabio_A wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I got this by the ambient list.</div>
<div>Just to share with some Eno's addicted, as I am.<br>Hope it doesn't fire up the stealing music debate...<br>&nbsp;<br>fabio<br><a href="http://www.eterogeneo.com/">www.eterogeneo.com</a><br>&nbsp;<br><br>"I think records were just a little bubble through time and those who<br>
made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reason<br>why anyone should have made so much money from selling records<br>except that everything was right for this period of time. I always<br>knew it would run out sooner or later. It couldn't last, and now it's<br>
running out. I don't particularly care that it is and like the way<br>things are going. The record age was just a blip. It was a bit like if<br>you had a source of whale blubber in the 1840s and it could be used<br>as fuel. Before gas came along, if you traded in whale blubber, you<br>
were the richest man on Earth. Then gas came along and you'd be<br>stuck with your whale blubber. Sorry mate - history's moving along.<br>Recorded music equals whale blubber. Eventually, something else will<br>replace it." <br>
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Of course I agree with Eno too...the demise of records and CD=B4s was
inevitable (they had nice covers mind.. I miss them.. ALOT actually!!)  and
the enormous amount of money made thru selling them, very rarely got to the
people who actually made the music, apart from spectacularly well publicize=
d
stars who pranced about like idiots for  3 decades... I can live with out
them...

However, this

"music can be streamed right into you preferred listening device" of which
Per drools.. is just a nightmare to me... I just cannot sit at my computer
for ANY MORE time than I already do.. either to PLAY my music or to BUY my
music.. I will not, shall not, buy from iTunes (despite having my own music
up there - Im no fool..)
Spotify?
Nope.. yikes...
Genius?
HELP!!!
That the web can figure out my taste in music from my collection, and then
try to sell it to me... is just AWFUL.... I KNOW IT WORKS... Ive seen it in
action.. but its just awful... God!!!! its my own computer, I bought it, it=
s
mine, I don't want it suggesting what I should buy, just like I don't want
my fridge suggesting what I should eat!!! Look You fucking SMEG... if I wan=
t
chips Im gonna eat chips!! OK???

The days of going by train to London, wandering off the Tottenham court
road, into the lanes that contained indie record shop after indie record
shop and standing there, leafing thru thousands of records, playing some on
the shops sound system, discussing with owners, whether its better than the
last, and heres a really rare bootleg... are gone... long gone... and Eno
doesn't care? Well.. maybe not.

Put it this way, I havent BOUGHT a record since I went into a shop and
bought one... OH .. WAIT... I=B4ve bought a few of YOUR records, from peopl=
e
on this list...

Oh and Per?
>The live scene is reported as increasing too, as I hear from most
countries.

Er.. that is very very very very very very wrong... Maybe the live scene ha=
s
gone from totally completely crap, to just plain awful... you and me both
live in countries where the Arts are heavily subsidised (Call it Jazz in
Norway, you get a grant!! ) so maybe we dont notice too much, maybe its not
too bad in the UK, where theay have always been over saturated with upcomin=
g
indie bands, but France? Germany, Italy, Spain, Im not so sure??? The days
of a mid upcoming indie band getting tour support for a Euro tour is well a=
n
truly over, and touring bands are either a) just sold a shedload maybe on
iTunes) or slumming it doing  a "train-tour". I cant remember the last time
I went to a UK band here in Oslo... there just not here!!!

To summarise what I feel.. The loss of records and any selling medium was
absolutely and completley inevitable, and I like Per and Eno, foresaw it
many many years ago...
There ARE new options and fascinating and creative distribution ideas,
Virtual gigs and streaming live free music, more and more are self
publishing and releasing small numbers of (sometime) very high quality work=
,
experimental musicians are actually just as visible as capable as "pop"
musicians in this new paradigm...

... but it doesnt mean that its a terrible shame... dont pretend it isn't..=
.

Mark


BTW, Vinyl sales are on the increase!!!



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Of course I agree with Eno too...the demise of records and CD=B4s was inevi=
table (they had nice covers mind.. I miss them.. ALOT actually!!)=A0 and th=
e enormous amount of money made thru selling them, very rarely got to the p=
eople who actually made the music, apart from spectacularly well publicized=
 stars who pranced about like idiots for=A0 3 decades... I can live with ou=
t them...<br>

<br>However, this<br><br>&quot;music can be streamed right into you preferr=
ed listening device&quot; of which Per drools.. is just a nightmare to me..=
. I just cannot sit at my computer for ANY MORE time than I already do.. ei=
ther to PLAY my music or to BUY my music.. I will not, shall not, buy from =
iTunes (despite having my own music up there - Im no fool..)<br>

Spotify?<br>Nope.. yikes...<br>Genius?<br>HELP!!!<br>That the web can figur=
e out my taste in music from my collection, and then try to sell it to me..=
. is just AWFUL.... I KNOW IT WORKS... Ive seen it in action.. but its just=
 awful... God!!!! its my own computer, I bought it, its mine, I don&#39;t w=
ant it suggesting what I should buy, just like I don&#39;t want my fridge s=
uggesting what I should eat!!! Look You fucking SMEG... if I want chips Im =
gonna eat chips!! OK???<br>

<br>The days of going by train to London, wandering off the Tottenham court=
 road, into the lanes that contained indie record shop after indie record s=
hop and standing there, leafing thru thousands of records, playing some on =
the shops sound system, discussing with owners, whether its better than the=
 last, and heres a really rare bootleg... are gone... long gone... and Eno =
doesn&#39;t care? Well.. maybe not. <br>

<br>Put it this way, I havent BOUGHT a record since I went into a shop and =
bought one... OH .. WAIT... I=B4ve bought a few of YOUR records, from peopl=
e on this list...<br><br>Oh and Per?<br>&gt;The live scene is reported as i=
ncreasing too, as I hear from most countries.<br>

<br>Er.. that is very very very very very very wrong... Maybe the live scen=
e has gone from totally completely crap, to just plain awful... you and me =
both live in countries where the Arts are heavily subsidised (Call it Jazz =
in Norway, you get a grant!! ) so maybe we dont notice too much, maybe its =
not too bad in the UK, where theay have always been over saturated with upc=
oming indie bands, but France? Germany, Italy, Spain, Im not so sure??? The=
 days of a mid upcoming indie band getting tour support for a Euro tour is =
well an truly over, and touring bands are either a) just sold a shedload ma=
ybe on iTunes) or slumming it doing=A0 a &quot;train-tour&quot;. I cant rem=
ember the last time I went to a UK band here in Oslo... there just not here=
!!!<br>

<br>To summarise what I feel.. The loss of records and any selling medium w=
as absolutely and completley inevitable, and I like Per and Eno, foresaw it=
 many many years ago...<br>There ARE new options and fascinating and creati=
ve distribution ideas, Virtual gigs and streaming live free music, more and=
 more are self publishing and releasing small numbers of (sometime) very hi=
gh quality work, experimental musicians are actually just as visible as cap=
able as &quot;pop&quot; musicians in this new paradigm... <br>

<br>... but it doesnt mean that its a terrible shame... dont pretend it isn=
&#39;t...<br><br>Mark<br><br><br>BTW, Vinyl sales are on the increase!!! <b=
r><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com"=
>www.markfrancombe.com</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe">http://uk.youtube.com/=
user/markfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">=
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch">h=
ttp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch</a><br>

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I meant...

... but it doesnt mean that its NOT a terrible shame...

My clever clogs last line, ruined by a typo... typical...


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I meant...<br><br><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 102);">... but it doesnt mean that its NOT a terrible shame...</span><br><br>My clever clogs last line, ruined by a typo... typical...<br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>

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Might be a generational thing, but for my 58 year old part when I plunk dow=
n my money I much prefer an actual physical object rather than permission t=
o access a "stream" or whatever. And I sure don't want to spend money on an=
 inferior format like mp3.=20

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Of course I agree with Eno too...the demise of records and CD=C2=B4s was in=
evitable (they had nice covers mind.. I miss them.. ALOT actually!!) and th=
e enormous amount of money made thru selling them, very rarely got to the p=
eople who actually made the music, apart from spectacularly well publicized=
 stars who pranced about like idiots for 3 decades... I can live with out t=
hem...=20

However, this=20

"music can be streamed right into you preferred listening device" of which =
Per drools.. is just a nightmare to me... I just cannot sit at my computer =
for ANY MORE time than I already do.. either to PLAY my music or to BUY my =
music.. I will not, shall not, buy from iTunes (despite having my own music=
 up there - Im no fool..)=20
Spotify?=20
Nope.. yikes...=20
Genius?=20
HELP!!!=20
That the web can figure out my taste in music from my collection, and then =
try to sell it to me... is just AWFUL.... I KNOW IT WORKS... Ive seen it in=
 action.. but its just awful... God!!!! its my own computer, I bought it, i=
ts mine, I don't want it suggesting what I should buy, just like I don't wa=
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money I much prefer an actual physical object rather than permission to
access a "stream" or whatever.&nbsp; And I sure don't want to spend money o=
n an inferior format like mp3.<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From:=
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LOT actually!!)&nbsp; and the enormous amount of money made thru selling th=
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3 decades... I can live with out them...<br>

<br>However, this<br><br>"music can be streamed right into you preferred li=
stening device" of which Per drools.. is just a nightmare to me... I just c=
annot sit at my computer for ANY MORE time than I already do.. either to PL=
AY my music or to BUY my music.. I will not, shall not, buy from iTunes (de=
spite having my own music up there - Im no fool..)<br>

Spotify?<br>Nope.. yikes...<br>Genius?<br>HELP!!!<br>That the web can figur=
e out my taste in music from my collection, and then try to sell it to me..=
. is just AWFUL.... I KNOW IT WORKS... Ive seen it in action.. but its just=
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it suggesting what I should buy, just like I don't want my fridge suggestin=
g what I should eat!!! Look You fucking SMEG... if I want chips Im gonna ea=
t chips!! OK???<br>

<br>The days of going by train to London, wandering off the Tottenham court=
 road, into the lanes that contained indie record shop after indie record s=
hop and standing there, leafing thru thousands of records, playing some on =
the shops sound system, discussing with owners, whether its better than the=
 last, and heres a really rare bootleg... are gone... long gone... and Eno =
doesn't care? Well.. maybe not. <br>

<br>Put it this way, I havent BOUGHT a record since I went into a shop and =
bought one... OH .. WAIT... I=C2=B4ve bought a few of YOUR records, from pe=
ople on this list...<br><br>Oh and Per?<br>&gt;The live scene is reported a=
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<br>Er.. that is very very very very very very wrong... Maybe the live scen=
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in Norway, you get a grant!! ) so maybe we dont notice too much, maybe its =
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oming indie bands, but France? Germany, Italy, Spain, Im not so sure??? The=
 days of a mid upcoming indie band getting tour support for a Euro tour is =
well an truly over, and touring bands are either a) just sold a shedload ma=
ybe on iTunes) or slumming it doing&nbsp; a "train-tour". I cant remember t=
he last time I went to a UK band here in Oslo... there just not here!!!<br>

<br>To summarise what I feel.. The loss of records and any selling medium w=
as absolutely and completley inevitable, and I like Per and Eno, foresaw it=
 many many years ago...<br>There ARE new options and fascinating and creati=
ve distribution ideas, Virtual gigs and streaming live free music, more and=
 more are self publishing and releasing small numbers of (sometime) very hi=
gh quality work, experimental musicians are actually just as visible as cap=
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I've heard that many times too. I'm not sure what to think about that.=20
One part of me says that I really liked some of the album cover art and the=
 other says "It's about the music isnt it?" Vibrations in the air=2C who ca=
res how it gets there...
I'm confused...

G



Might be a generational thing=2C but for my 58 year old part when I plunk d=
own my
money I much prefer an actual physical object rather than permission to
access a "stream" or whatever.  And I sure don't want to spend money on an =
inferior format like mp3.

----- Original Message -----
From: "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: "loopers-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday=2C January 26=2C 2010 1:39:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music

Of course I agree with Eno too...the demise of records and CD=B4s was inevi=
table (they had nice covers mind.. I miss them.. ALOT actually!!)  and the =
enormous amount of money made thru selling them=2C very rarely got to the p=
eople who actually made the music=2C apart from spectacularly well publiciz=
ed stars who pranced about like idiots for  3 decades... I can live with ou=
t them...



However=2C this

"music can be streamed right into you preferred listening device" of which =
Per drools.. is just a nightmare to me... I just cannot sit at my computer =
for ANY MORE time than I already do.. either to PLAY my music or to BUY my =
music.. I will not=2C shall not=2C buy from iTunes (despite having my own m=
usic up there - Im no fool..)


Spotify?
Nope.. yikes...
Genius?
HELP!!!
That the web can figure out my taste in music from my collection=2C and the=
n try to sell it to me... is just AWFUL.... I KNOW IT WORKS... Ive seen it =
in action.. but its just awful... God!!!! its my own computer=2C I bought i=
t=2C its mine=2C I don't want it suggesting what I should buy=2C just like =
I don't want my fridge suggesting what I should eat!!! Look You fucking SME=
G... if I want chips Im gonna eat chips!! OK???



The days of going by train to London=2C wandering off the Tottenham court r=
oad=2C into the lanes that contained indie record shop after indie record s=
hop and standing there=2C leafing thru thousands of records=2C playing some=
 on the shops sound system=2C discussing with owners=2C whether its better =
than the last=2C and heres a really rare bootleg... are gone... long gone..=
. and Eno doesn't care? Well.. maybe not.=20



Put it this way=2C I havent BOUGHT a record since I went into a shop and bo=
ught one... OH .. WAIT... I=B4ve bought a few of YOUR records=2C from peopl=
e on this list...

Oh and Per?
>The live scene is reported as increasing too=2C as I hear from most countr=
ies.



Er.. that is very very very very very very wrong... Maybe the live scene ha=
s gone from totally completely crap=2C to just plain awful... you and me bo=
th live in countries where the Arts are heavily subsidised (Call it Jazz in=
 Norway=2C you get a grant!! ) so maybe we dont notice too much=2C maybe it=
s not too bad in the UK=2C where theay have always been over saturated with=
 upcoming indie bands=2C but France? Germany=2C Italy=2C Spain=2C Im not so=
 sure??? The days of a mid upcoming indie band getting tour support for a E=
uro tour is well an truly over=2C and touring bands are either a) just sold=
 a shedload maybe on iTunes) or slumming it doing  a "train-tour". I cant r=
emember the last time I went to a UK band here in Oslo... there just not he=
re!!!



To summarise what I feel.. The loss of records and any selling medium was a=
bsolutely and completley inevitable=2C and I like Per and Eno=2C foresaw it=
 many many years ago...
There ARE new options and fascinating and creative distribution ideas=2C Vi=
rtual gigs and streaming live free music=2C more and more are self publishi=
ng and releasing small numbers of (sometime) very high quality work=2C expe=
rimental musicians are actually just as visible as capable as "pop" musicia=
ns in this new paradigm...=20



... but it doesnt mean that its a terrible shame... dont pretend it isn't..=
.

Mark


BTW=2C Vinyl sales are on the increase!!!=20


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money I much prefer an actual physical object rather than permission to
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Per Boysen wrote:
> Of course the guy is talking about the praxis of distributing recorded
> music by mechanical pods, 

I'm not sure that's what he means at all.


*read it carefully*

"Recorded music equals whale blubber. " Brian Eno.

So to paraphrase:
"Recorded music is no longer such a large source of money as it
 has recently been. Therefore as a source of income it will be
  replaced by something else."

Presumably he's hinting that "something else" may be software
that generates music, like his own Bloom.


Eno fans may want to go to

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/

and search for a recent program about him.


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From: Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com>
Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music
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> One thing to keep in mind is archiving which generally requires a  
> phisical medium that is relativly permanant. That's why we can  
> still hear Edison's voice.

How about Edison as a ring tone? Or, maybe the voice of Alexander  
Graham Bell be more appropriate? :-)

However, even though I am a LONG time admirer of Eno (and still very  
much am), I do not completely agree with what he says here. (And with  
what Per says, as well. Sorry. :-))
Physical media for music may be "dying" in general, and in the (gag!)  
"industry", but it will still be with us in it's various forms for  
many years to come. In the last few years,
there has also been a noticeable revival in interest in vinyl  
records, both new and used, and even a wee tiny one in cassettes.  
And, there are more turntables
(and accessories) being manufactured again than what was done in the  
last 10-15 years, or so. Now of course, none of these physical medias  
will ever come even close
to their former positions and stature in the music "industry", but at  
least records have made a bit of a "comeback", and there must be some  
reasons for that.
These types of things just do not "happen" for no real reason.  (see  
at least one reason later below...)

As for the various physical medias for music, there is obviously  
still a very big interest in all of them, since records, both new and  
used, are still selling like hot cakes,
both in kool indy record shops, and online. I also witness this with  
the numbers of regular sales of LPs and 7"s on my ebay site (going  
good for about 10 years now),
along with even *cassettes* (both very rare and not so rare) and even  
*8 track carts* and *reel tapes*!
(No kidding. A LOT of people. of all ages, still look for and  
purchase all of these formats.)

As for records, here in the Portland, Oregon area alone , there are  
around *20*, if not more, RECORD stores and it appears that most (or  
all?) of them continue to do good business,
or at least good enough to keep the doors open, and especially during  
one of the *worst* economic times in decades. (With "thanks" to that  
a-hole Bush and the Rethuglicans!)

And, as for those who think that an all digital world is the only way  
to be and go, well they should be grateful that those "old" physical  
medias still exist since there is a near infinite number of great,  
rare (and not so rare, but still not in digital format) and  
incredible musics that can *no longer be found except* via those same  
"outdated" medias, but can of course,
also be transferred into the digital realm, which is something I do  
all of the time and on a regular basis, for both my own personal use  
in iTunes (or whatever)  and also to share for
free ( I NEVER SELL dubs of anything!) to friends, and sometimes  
others in money-free trades.  And, the newer LPs (and?) that come out  
also serve as LONG lasting "storage units"
or "back ups"  (or "physical holders") for musics of all kinds. Don't  
write all of these things off yet, or at least not so quickly.

Also, it seems to me that someone runs the risk of *losing* a *lot*  
(or even *all*!) of their vast collection of great music by keeping  
it all only on an ipod or computer, etc, should
something really bad happen to any of those.  But of course, they  
likely could retrieve most, or even all of it back again, but it  
*would take a LONG time* of looking, searching,
to do so.  As for me, I believe and use ALL ways and means to have  
music, all the way from many LPs and 7"s and 10"s, to cassettes, to  
reel tapes, and yes, even some *8 tracks*,
and also streaming, mp3s, or whatever. (still don't have an ipod yet.  
Maybe one day...?)  If I am simply able to just HEAR something at  
all , then I'm HAPPY!
I have also never believed in limiting my options with just about   
anything, especially the experience of music. And as for "how"  
something sounds? I'm not picky.
I can easily enjoy some scratchy old LP on my turntable, just as much  
as the cleanest, "purest" 16-24 (and?) bit rate recorded music, and  
everything else in between.

But also, in "defense" of the all-digital-world of music folks , one  
*reality* is that *not everyone* can have or afford to have a *place*  
that they *live in* that can also accommodate
the storage area necessary for having whatever numbers of the  
physical formats (especially if someone is a music *fanatic* like  
Moi!) , and I can certainly sympathize with that
situation that a lot of folks unavoidably find themselves in, and /  
or folks who, by the very nature of how they make their living, have  
to relocate on a frequent basis.
Lucky for me, I am not in  either of those situations, but do  
understand what many others may be dealing with, and if all-digital,  
etc, is only what they have, then so be it.
But, do not say or mandate that this is the "only" way it has to be,  
or even will be. Personally, the idea of an "all digital world" with  
anything / everything, besides music, and more especially if forced /  
mandated, kind of kreeps me out.  But, maybe that's just me....? :-)  
(but I  am also not some "Luddite", either.)

Also, as far as making CDs being "stupid" as someone on the list  
said, he and anyone else who thinks that way should take a look at  
the still ongoing success (about 10 years now)
of a business such as CD Baby  (also here in Portland) which still  
continues to expand and sell their stock of those "stupid" CDs, along  
with also digital downloads, of course.
(these CDB folks ain't "stupid". :-))  My own CDs still continue to  
sell there, along with DDLs of course, and the same goes for a LOT of  
other musical artists that signed up with CDB.
( Disclaimer: I do not work for CDB, but do like their service.)

And in closing, around 2 or so years ago, I read a report about the  
new growth in popularity of LPs (both "old" and new) among a range of  
ages of teenagers and young
20-somethings adults. The answer that MOST of them gave for WHY they,  
those who have grown up surrounded by and with computers ipods, mp3s,  
and even CDs,
liked that "old"  format of vinyl was that those records "sounded  
much better" (verbatim)  than anything else they had heard. No  
kidding. That is what they said.

Now of course, there can be a big and LOOONG debate over "how" or  
"why" something sounds better over something else, and I *ain't*  
going *there*. So if that comes up,
then I'm staying out of that argument, because I honestly just do not  
care. I just wanted to share what I had read about with a lot of  
"today's" kids and the resurgence in
popularity of vinyl that they have apparently helped to bring about. :-)

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland, OR



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Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music
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Man, I just had a lot of fun Sunday hooking up my DAT recorder and listenin=
g to=A0collections of various artists I recorded in the past, my own work, =
etc. Must be something wrong with me.
=A0
A downside of digital media is the management of it. My Zune really sucks a=
t organizing songs particularly songs I recorded from various media like re=
cords and cassette tapes. 'Course it's from Microsoft.
=A0
Also, what about the other physical elements of recordings? i.e. enclosed b=
ooklets, DVD's w/interviews & concerts? I'm going to pop almost 100 fazules=
 for the Genesis 1970-1975 boxset just to get all the tinsel surrounding th=
e music.

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:


From: Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com>
Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 4:26 PM


> One thing to keep in mind is archiving which generally requires a phisica=
l medium that is relativly permanant. That's why we can still hear Edison's=
 voice.

How about Edison as a ring tone? Or, maybe the voice of Alexander Graham Be=
ll be more appropriate? :-)

However, even though I am a LONG time admirer of Eno (and still very much a=
m), I do not completely agree with what he says here. (And with what Per sa=
ys, as well. Sorry. :-))
Physical media for music may be "dying" in general, and in the (gag!) "indu=
stry", but it will still be with us in it's various forms for many years to=
 come. In the last few years,
there has also been a noticeable revival in interest in vinyl records, both=
 new and used, and even a wee tiny one in cassettes. And, there are more tu=
rntables
(and accessories) being manufactured again than what was done in the last 1=
0-15 years, or so. Now of course, none of these physical medias will ever c=
ome even close
to their former positions and stature in the music "industry", but at least=
 records have made a bit of a "comeback", and there must be some reasons fo=
r that.
These types of things just do not "happen" for no real reason.=A0 (see at l=
east one reason later below...)

As for the various physical medias for music, there is obviously still a ve=
ry big interest in all of them, since records, both new and used, are still=
 selling like hot cakes,
both in kool indy record shops, and online. I also witness this with the nu=
mbers of regular sales of LPs and 7"s on my ebay site (going good for about=
 10 years now),
along with even *cassettes* (both very rare and not so rare) and even *8 tr=
ack carts* and *reel tapes*!
(No kidding. A LOT of people. of all ages, still look for and purchase all =
of these formats.)

As for records, here in the Portland, Oregon area alone , there are around =
*20*, if not more, RECORD stores and it appears that most (or all?) of them=
 continue to do good business,
or at least good enough to keep the doors open, and especially during one o=
f the *worst* economic times in decades. (With "thanks" to that a-hole Bush=
 and the Rethuglicans!)

And, as for those who think that an all digital world is the only way to be=
 and go, well they should be grateful that those "old" physical medias stil=
l exist since there is a near infinite number of great, rare (and not so ra=
re, but still not in digital format) and incredible musics that can *no lon=
ger be found except* via those same "outdated" medias, but can of course,
also be transferred into the digital realm, which is something I do all of =
the time and on a regular basis, for both my own personal use in iTunes (or=
 whatever)=A0 and also to share for
free ( I NEVER SELL dubs of anything!) to friends, and sometimes others in =
money-free trades.=A0 And, the newer LPs (and?) that come out also serve as=
 LONG lasting "storage units"
or "back ups"=A0 (or "physical holders") for musics of all kinds. Don't wri=
te all of these things off yet, or at least not so quickly.

Also, it seems to me that someone runs the risk of *losing* a *lot* (or eve=
n *all*!) of their vast collection of great music by keeping it all only on=
 an ipod or computer, etc, should
something really bad happen to any of those.=A0 But of course, they likely =
could retrieve most, or even all of it back again, but it *would take a LON=
G time* of looking, searching,
to do so.=A0 As for me, I believe and use ALL ways and means to have music,=
 all the way from many LPs and 7"s and 10"s, to cassettes, to reel tapes, a=
nd yes, even some *8 tracks*,
and also streaming, mp3s, or whatever. (still don't have an ipod yet. Maybe=
 one day...?)=A0 If I am simply able to just HEAR something at all , then I=
'm HAPPY!
I have also never believed in limiting my options with just about=A0 anythi=
ng, especially the experience of music. And as for "how" something sounds? =
I'm not picky.
I can easily enjoy some scratchy old LP on my turntable, just as much as th=
e cleanest, "purest" 16-24 (and?) bit rate recorded music, and everything e=
lse in between.

But also, in "defense" of the all-digital-world of music folks , one *reali=
ty* is that *not everyone* can have or afford to have a *place* that they *=
live in* that can also accommodate
the storage area necessary for having whatever numbers of the physical form=
ats (especially if someone is a music *fanatic* like Moi!) , and I can cert=
ainly sympathize with that
situation that a lot of folks unavoidably find themselves in, and / or folk=
s who, by the very nature of how they make their living, have to relocate o=
n a frequent basis.
Lucky for me, I am not in=A0 either of those situations, but do understand =
what many others may be dealing with, and if all-digital, etc, is only what=
 they have, then so be it.
But, do not say or mandate that this is the "only" way it has to be, or eve=
n will be. Personally, the idea of an "all digital world" with anything / e=
verything, besides music, and more especially if forced / mandated, kind of=
 kreeps me out.=A0 But, maybe that's just me....? :-) (but I=A0 am also not=
 some "Luddite", either.)

Also, as far as making CDs being "stupid" as someone on the list said, he a=
nd anyone else who thinks that way should take a look at the still ongoing =
success (about 10 years now)
of a business such as CD Baby=A0 (also here in Portland) which still contin=
ues to expand and sell their stock of those "stupid" CDs, along with also d=
igital downloads, of course.
(these CDB folks ain't "stupid". :-))=A0 My own CDs still continue to sell =
there, along with DDLs of course, and the same goes for a LOT of other musi=
cal artists that signed up with CDB.
( Disclaimer: I do not work for CDB, but do like their service.)

And in closing, around 2 or so years ago, I read a report about the new gro=
wth in popularity of LPs (both "old" and new) among a range of ages of teen=
agers and young
20-somethings adults. The answer that MOST of them gave for WHY they, those=
 who have grown up surrounded by and with computers ipods, mp3s, and even C=
Ds,
liked that "old"=A0 format of vinyl was that those records "sounded much be=
tter" (verbatim)=A0 than anything else they had heard. No kidding. That is =
what they said.

Now of course, there can be a big and LOOONG debate over "how" or "why" som=
ething sounds better over something else, and I *ain't* going *there*. So i=
f that comes up,
then I'm staying out of that argument, because I honestly just do not care.=
 I just wanted to share what I had read about with a lot of "today's" kids =
and the resurgence in
popularity of vinyl that they have apparently helped to bring about. :-)

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland, OR



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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Man, I just had a lot of fun Sunday hook=
ing up my DAT recorder and listening to&nbsp;collections of various artists=
 I recorded in the past, my own work, etc. Must be something wrong with me.=
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>A downside of digital media is the management of it. My Zune really su=
cks at organizing songs particularly songs I recorded from various media li=
ke records and cassette tapes. 'Course it's from Microsoft.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Also, what about the other physical elements of recordings? i.e. enclo=
sed booklets, DVD's w/interviews &amp; concerts? I'm going to pop almost 10=
0 fazules for the Genesis 1970-1975 boxset just to get all the tinsel surro=
unding the music.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 1/26/10, Revfever <I>&lt;revfever@u=
bergadget.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Revfever &lt;revfever@ubergadget.com&gt;<BR=
>Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music<BR>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers=
-delight.com<BR>Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 4:26 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>&gt; One thing to keep in mind is archiving which ge=
nerally requires a phisical medium that is relativly permanant. That's why =
we can still hear Edison's voice.<BR><BR>How about Edison as a ring tone? O=
r, maybe the voice of Alexander Graham Bell be more appropriate? :-)<BR><BR=
>However, even though I am a LONG time admirer of Eno (and still very much =
am), I do not completely agree with what he says here. (And with what Per s=
ays, as well. Sorry. :-))<BR>Physical media for music may be "dying" in gen=
eral, and in the (gag!) "industry", but it will still be with us in it's va=
rious forms for many years to come. In the last few years,<BR>there has als=
o been a noticeable revival in interest in vinyl records, both new and used=
, and even a wee tiny one in cassettes. And, there are more turntables<BR>(=
and accessories) being manufactured again than what was done in the last 10=
-15 years, or so. Now of course, none of these physical medias will
 ever come even close<BR>to their former positions and stature in the music=
 "industry", but at least records have made a bit of a "comeback", and ther=
e must be some reasons for that.<BR>These types of things just do not "happ=
en" for no real reason.&nbsp; (see at least one reason later below...)<BR><=
BR>As for the various physical medias for music, there is obviously still a=
 very big interest in all of them, since records, both new and used, are st=
ill selling like hot cakes,<BR>both in kool indy record shops, and online. =
I also witness this with the numbers of regular sales of LPs and 7"s on my =
ebay site (going good for about 10 years now),<BR>along with even *cassette=
s* (both very rare and not so rare) and even *8 track carts* and *reel tape=
s*!<BR>(No kidding. A LOT of people. of all ages, still look for and purcha=
se all of these formats.)<BR><BR>As for records, here in the Portland, Oreg=
on area alone , there are around *20*, if not more, RECORD stores
 and it appears that most (or all?) of them continue to do good business,<B=
R>or at least good enough to keep the doors open, and especially during one=
 of the *worst* economic times in decades. (With "thanks" to that a-hole Bu=
sh and the Rethuglicans!)<BR><BR>And, as for those who think that an all di=
gital world is the only way to be and go, well they should be grateful that=
 those "old" physical medias still exist since there is a near infinite num=
ber of great, rare (and not so rare, but still not in digital format) and i=
ncredible musics that can *no longer be found except* via those same "outda=
ted" medias, but can of course,<BR>also be transferred into the digital rea=
lm, which is something I do all of the time and on a regular basis, for bot=
h my own personal use in iTunes (or whatever)&nbsp; and also to share for<B=
R>free ( I NEVER SELL dubs of anything!) to friends, and sometimes others i=
n money-free trades.&nbsp; And, the newer LPs (and?) that come out
 also serve as LONG lasting "storage units"<BR>or "back ups"&nbsp; (or "phy=
sical holders") for musics of all kinds. Don't write all of these things of=
f yet, or at least not so quickly.<BR><BR>Also, it seems to me that someone=
 runs the risk of *losing* a *lot* (or even *all*!) of their vast collectio=
n of great music by keeping it all only on an ipod or computer, etc, should=
<BR>something really bad happen to any of those.&nbsp; But of course, they =
likely could retrieve most, or even all of it back again, but it *would tak=
e a LONG time* of looking, searching,<BR>to do so.&nbsp; As for me, I belie=
ve and use ALL ways and means to have music, all the way from many LPs and =
7"s and 10"s, to cassettes, to reel tapes, and yes, even some *8 tracks*,<B=
R>and also streaming, mp3s, or whatever. (still don't have an ipod yet. May=
be one day...?)&nbsp; If I am simply able to just HEAR something at all , t=
hen I'm HAPPY!<BR>I have also never believed in limiting my options
 with just about&nbsp; anything, especially the experience of music. And as=
 for "how" something sounds? I'm not picky.<BR>I can easily enjoy some scra=
tchy old LP on my turntable, just as much as the cleanest, "purest" 16-24 (=
and?) bit rate recorded music, and everything else in between.<BR><BR>But a=
lso, in "defense" of the all-digital-world of music folks , one *reality* i=
s that *not everyone* can have or afford to have a *place* that they *live =
in* that can also accommodate<BR>the storage area necessary for having what=
ever numbers of the physical formats (especially if someone is a music *fan=
atic* like Moi!) , and I can certainly sympathize with that<BR>situation th=
at a lot of folks unavoidably find themselves in, and / or folks who, by th=
e very nature of how they make their living, have to relocate on a frequent=
 basis.<BR>Lucky for me, I am not in&nbsp; either of those situations, but =
do understand what many others may be dealing with, and if
 all-digital, etc, is only what they have, then so be it.<BR>But, do not sa=
y or mandate that this is the "only" way it has to be, or even will be. Per=
sonally, the idea of an "all digital world" with anything / everything, bes=
ides music, and more especially if forced / mandated, kind of kreeps me out=
.&nbsp; But, maybe that's just me....? :-) (but I&nbsp; am also not some "L=
uddite", either.)<BR><BR>Also, as far as making CDs being "stupid" as someo=
ne on the list said, he and anyone else who thinks that way should take a l=
ook at the still ongoing success (about 10 years now)<BR>of a business such=
 as CD Baby&nbsp; (also here in Portland) which still continues to expand a=
nd sell their stock of those "stupid" CDs, along with also digital download=
s, of course.<BR>(these CDB folks ain't "stupid". :-))&nbsp; My own CDs sti=
ll continue to sell there, along with DDLs of course, and the same goes for=
 a LOT of other musical artists that signed up with CDB.<BR>(
 Disclaimer: I do not work for CDB, but do like their service.)<BR><BR>And =
in closing, around 2 or so years ago, I read a report about the new growth =
in popularity of LPs (both "old" and new) among a range of ages of teenager=
s and young<BR>20-somethings adults. The answer that MOST of them gave for =
WHY they, those who have grown up surrounded by and with computers ipods, m=
p3s, and even CDs,<BR>liked that "old"&nbsp; format of vinyl was that those=
 records "sounded much better" (verbatim)&nbsp; than anything else they had=
 heard. No kidding. That is what they said.<BR><BR>Now of course, there can=
 be a big and LOOONG debate over "how" or "why" something sounds better ove=
r something else, and I *ain't* going *there*. So if that comes up,<BR>then=
 I'm staying out of that argument, because I honestly just do not care. I j=
ust wanted to share what I had read about with a lot of "today's" kids and =
the resurgence in<BR>popularity of vinyl that they have apparently
 helped to bring about. :-)<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Rev. Fever<BR>Portland, OR<BR=
><BR><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>=0A=0A=0A=0A      
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Personally I have no problem organizing my digital media. Both MAC and
WINDOWS utilize a very basic filing system, complete with folders and the
ability to create titles etc. The problem is all the imposing software that
invades your privacy, monitors your activities and sells you product. I just
keep my stuff in folders, play it with a simple "player" program and
occasionally burn my own collections. They can keep their ITunes and Zune,
thank you very much!
And no - its not just about the music. Many great LPs and CDs came with
great album artwork, lyrics, stories - entire album concepts designed
to enhance the recordings. Have we forgot the 70s?
I grieve the disappearance of CD's like the loss of LPs in the 80s. The same
way I still miss my reel-to-reels and cassetter recorders, I instinctively
resist the change. It is a radical departure to how we've listened to and
consumed music and much is still up in the air. It opens the door to some
good and some bad.
I think Eno is right to a point, though CDs are not completely dead. (You
know he's a smart guy but contrary to popular belief, he
actually isn't God.)

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Richards
<paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>wrote:

>   Man, I just had a lot of fun Sunday hooking up my DAT recorder and
> listening to collections of various artists I recorded in the past, my own
> work, etc. Must be something wrong with me.
>
> A downside of digital media is the management of it. My Zune really sucks
> at organizing songs particularly songs I recorded from various media like
> records and cassette tapes. 'Course it's from Microsoft.
>
> Also, what about the other physical elements of recordings? i.e. enclosed
> booklets, DVD's w/interviews & concerts? I'm going to pop almost 100 fazules
> for the Genesis 1970-1975 boxset just to get all the tinsel surrounding the
> music.
>
> --- On *Tue, 1/26/10, Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com>
>
> Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 4:26 PM
>
>
> > One thing to keep in mind is archiving which generally requires a
> phisical medium that is relativly permanant. That's why we can still hear
> Edison's voice.
>
> How about Edison as a ring tone? Or, maybe the voice of Alexander Graham
> Bell be more appropriate? :-)
>
> However, even though I am a LONG time admirer of Eno (and still very much
> am), I do not completely agree with what he says here. (And with what Per
> says, as well. Sorry. :-))
> Physical media for music may be "dying" in general, and in the (gag!)
> "industry", but it will still be with us in it's various forms for many
> years to come. In the last few years,
> there has also been a noticeable revival in interest in vinyl records, both
> new and used, and even a wee tiny one in cassettes. And, there are more
> turntables
> (and accessories) being manufactured again than what was done in the last
> 10-15 years, or so. Now of course, none of these physical medias will ever
> come even close
> to their former positions and stature in the music "industry", but at least
> records have made a bit of a "comeback", and there must be some reasons for
> that.
> These types of things just do not "happen" for no real reason.  (see at
> least one reason later below...)
>
> As for the various physical medias for music, there is obviously still a
> very big interest in all of them, since records, both new and used, are
> still selling like hot cakes,
> both in kool indy record shops, and online. I also witness this with the
> numbers of regular sales of LPs and 7"s on my ebay site (going good for
> about 10 years now),
> along with even *cassettes* (both very rare and not so rare) and even *8
> track carts* and *reel tapes*!
> (No kidding. A LOT of people. of all ages, still look for and purchase all
> of these formats.)
>
> As for records, here in the Portland, Oregon area alone , there are around
> *20*, if not more, RECORD stores and it appears that most (or all?) of them
> continue to do good business,
> or at least good enough to keep the doors open, and especially during one
> of the *worst* economic times in decades. (With "thanks" to that a-hole Bush
> and the Rethuglicans!)
>
> And, as for those who think that an all digital world is the only way to be
> and go, well they should be grateful that those "old" physical medias still
> exist since there is a near infinite number of great, rare (and not so rare,
> but still not in digital format) and incredible musics that can *no longer
> be found except* via those same "outdated" medias, but can of course,
> also be transferred into the digital realm, which is something I do all of
> the time and on a regular basis, for both my own personal use in iTunes (or
> whatever)  and also to share for
> free ( I NEVER SELL dubs of anything!) to friends, and sometimes others in
> money-free trades.  And, the newer LPs (and?) that come out also serve as
> LONG lasting "storage units"
> or "back ups"  (or "physical holders") for musics of all kinds. Don't write
> all of these things off yet, or at least not so quickly.
>
> Also, it seems to me that someone runs the risk of *losing* a *lot* (or
> even *all*!) of their vast collection of great music by keeping it all only
> on an ipod or computer, etc, should
> something really bad happen to any of those.  But of course, they likely
> could retrieve most, or even all of it back again, but it *would take a LONG
> time* of looking, searching,
> to do so.  As for me, I believe and use ALL ways and means to have music,
> all the way from many LPs and 7"s and 10"s, to cassettes, to reel tapes, and
> yes, even some *8 tracks*,
> and also streaming, mp3s, or whatever. (still don't have an ipod yet. Maybe
> one day...?)  If I am simply able to just HEAR something at all , then I'm
> HAPPY!
> I have also never believed in limiting my options with just about
> anything, especially the experience of music. And as for "how" something
> sounds? I'm not picky.
> I can easily enjoy some scratchy old LP on my turntable, just as much as
> the cleanest, "purest" 16-24 (and?) bit rate recorded music, and everything
> else in between.
>
> But also, in "defense" of the all-digital-world of music folks , one
> *reality* is that *not everyone* can have or afford to have a *place* that
> they *live in* that can also accommodate
> the storage area necessary for having whatever numbers of the physical
> formats (especially if someone is a music *fanatic* like Moi!) , and I can
> certainly sympathize with that
> situation that a lot of folks unavoidably find themselves in, and / or
> folks who, by the very nature of how they make their living, have to
> relocate on a frequent basis.
> Lucky for me, I am not in  either of those situations, but do understand
> what many others may be dealing with, and if all-digital, etc, is only what
> they have, then so be it.
> But, do not say or mandate that this is the "only" way it has to be, or
> even will be. Personally, the idea of an "all digital world" with anything /
> everything, besides music, and more especially if forced / mandated, kind of
> kreeps me out.  But, maybe that's just me....? :-) (but I  am also not some
> "Luddite", either.)
>
> Also, as far as making CDs being "stupid" as someone on the list said, he
> and anyone else who thinks that way should take a look at the still ongoing
> success (about 10 years now)
> of a business such as CD Baby  (also here in Portland) which still
> continues to expand and sell their stock of those "stupid" CDs, along with
> also digital downloads, of course.
> (these CDB folks ain't "stupid". :-))  My own CDs still continue to sell
> there, along with DDLs of course, and the same goes for a LOT of other
> musical artists that signed up with CDB.
> ( Disclaimer: I do not work for CDB, but do like their service.)
>
> And in closing, around 2 or so years ago, I read a report about the new
> growth in popularity of LPs (both "old" and new) among a range of ages of
> teenagers and young
> 20-somethings adults. The answer that MOST of them gave for WHY they, those
> who have grown up surrounded by and with computers ipods, mp3s, and even
> CDs,
> liked that "old"  format of vinyl was that those records "sounded much
> better" (verbatim)  than anything else they had heard. No kidding. That is
> what they said.
>
> Now of course, there can be a big and LOOONG debate over "how" or "why"
> something sounds better over something else, and I *ain't* going *there*. So
> if that comes up,
> then I'm staying out of that argument, because I honestly just do not care.
> I just wanted to share what I had read about with a lot of "today's" kids
> and the resurgence in
> popularity of vinyl that they have apparently helped to bring about. :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Rev. Fever
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
>
>

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<div>Personally I have no problem organizing my digital media. Both MAC and=
 WINDOWS utilize a very basic filing system, complete with folders and the =
ability to create titles etc. The problem is all the imposing software that=
 invades your privacy, monitors your activities and sells you product. I ju=
st keep my stuff in folders, play it with a simple &quot;player&quot; progr=
am and occasionally burn my own collections.=A0They can keep their=A0ITunes=
 and Zune, thank you very much! </div>

<div>And no - its not=A0just about the music. Many great LPs and CDs came w=
ith great album artwork, lyrics, stories - entire=A0album concepts=A0design=
ed to=A0enhance the recordings. Have we forgot the 70s?</div>
<div>I grieve the=A0disappearance of=A0CD&#39;s like the loss of LPs in the=
 80s.=A0The same way=A0I still miss my reel-to-reels and cassetter recorder=
s, I instinctively resist the change. It is a radical departure to how we&#=
39;ve listened to and consumed music and much is still up in the air. It op=
ens the door to some good and some bad.</div>

<div>I think Eno is right to a point, though CDs are not completely dead. (=
You know he&#39;s a smart guy but contrary to popular belief,=A0he actually=
=A0isn&#39;t=A0God.)<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Richards <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com">paulric=
hard_rocks@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign=3D"top">
<div>Man, I just had a lot of fun Sunday hooking up my DAT recorder and lis=
tening to=A0collections of various artists I recorded in the past, my own w=
ork, etc. Must be something wrong with me.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>A downside of digital media is the management of it. My Zune really su=
cks at organizing songs particularly songs I recorded from various media li=
ke records and cassette tapes. &#39;Course it&#39;s from Microsoft.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Also, what about the other physical elements of recordings? i.e. enclo=
sed booklets, DVD&#39;s w/interviews &amp; concerts? I&#39;m going to pop a=
lmost 100 fazules for the Genesis 1970-1975 boxset just to get all the tins=
el surrounding the music.<br>
<br>--- On <b>Tue, 1/26/10, Revfever <i>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:revfever@uber=
gadget.com" target=3D"_blank">revfever@ubergadget.com</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote=
:<br></div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><br>From: Revfever &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:revfever@ube=
rgadget.com" target=3D"_blank">revfever@ubergadget.com</a>&gt;=20
<div class=3D"im"><br>Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music<br></div>=
To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>Date: Tuesday, January 26, 201=
0, 4:26 PM=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br>
<div>&gt; One thing to keep in mind is archiving which generally requires a=
 phisical medium that is relativly permanant. That&#39;s why we can still h=
ear Edison&#39;s voice.<br><br>How about Edison as a ring tone? Or, maybe t=
he voice of Alexander Graham Bell be more appropriate? :-)<br>
<br>However, even though I am a LONG time admirer of Eno (and still very mu=
ch am), I do not completely agree with what he says here. (And with what Pe=
r says, as well. Sorry. :-))<br>Physical media for music may be &quot;dying=
&quot; in general, and in the (gag!) &quot;industry&quot;, but it will stil=
l be with us in it&#39;s various forms for many years to come. In the last =
few years,<br>
there has also been a noticeable revival in interest in vinyl records, both=
 new and used, and even a wee tiny one in cassettes. And, there are more tu=
rntables<br>(and accessories) being manufactured again than what was done i=
n the last 10-15 years, or so. Now of course, none of these physical medias=
 will ever come even close<br>
to their former positions and stature in the music &quot;industry&quot;, bu=
t at least records have made a bit of a &quot;comeback&quot;, and there mus=
t be some reasons for that.<br>These types of things just do not &quot;happ=
en&quot; for no real reason.=A0 (see at least one reason later below...)<br=
>
<br>As for the various physical medias for music, there is obviously still =
a very big interest in all of them, since records, both new and used, are s=
till selling like hot cakes,<br>both in kool indy record shops, and online.=
 I also witness this with the numbers of regular sales of LPs and 7&quot;s =
on my ebay site (going good for about 10 years now),<br>
along with even *cassettes* (both very rare and not so rare) and even *8 tr=
ack carts* and *reel tapes*!<br>(No kidding. A LOT of people. of all ages, =
still look for and purchase all of these formats.)<br><br>As for records, h=
ere in the Portland, Oregon area alone , there are around *20*, if not more=
, RECORD stores and it appears that most (or all?) of them continue to do g=
ood business,<br>
or at least good enough to keep the doors open, and especially during one o=
f the *worst* economic times in decades. (With &quot;thanks&quot; to that a=
-hole Bush and the Rethuglicans!)<br><br>And, as for those who think that a=
n all digital world is the only way to be and go, well they should be grate=
ful that those &quot;old&quot; physical medias still exist since there is a=
 near infinite number of great, rare (and not so rare, but still not in dig=
ital format) and incredible musics that can *no longer be found except* via=
 those same &quot;outdated&quot; medias, but can of course,<br>
also be transferred into the digital realm, which is something I do all of =
the time and on a regular basis, for both my own personal use in iTunes (or=
 whatever)=A0 and also to share for<br>free ( I NEVER SELL dubs of anything=
!) to friends, and sometimes others in money-free trades.=A0 And, the newer=
 LPs (and?) that come out also serve as LONG lasting &quot;storage units&qu=
ot;<br>
or &quot;back ups&quot;=A0 (or &quot;physical holders&quot;) for musics of =
all kinds. Don&#39;t write all of these things off yet, or at least not so =
quickly.<br><br>Also, it seems to me that someone runs the risk of *losing*=
 a *lot* (or even *all*!) of their vast collection of great music by keepin=
g it all only on an ipod or computer, etc, should<br>
something really bad happen to any of those.=A0 But of course, they likely =
could retrieve most, or even all of it back again, but it *would take a LON=
G time* of looking, searching,<br>to do so.=A0 As for me, I believe and use=
 ALL ways and means to have music, all the way from many LPs and 7&quot;s a=
nd 10&quot;s, to cassettes, to reel tapes, and yes, even some *8 tracks*,<b=
r>
and also streaming, mp3s, or whatever. (still don&#39;t have an ipod yet. M=
aybe one day...?)=A0 If I am simply able to just HEAR something at all , th=
en I&#39;m HAPPY!<br>I have also never believed in limiting my options with=
 just about=A0 anything, especially the experience of music. And as for &qu=
ot;how&quot; something sounds? I&#39;m not picky.<br>
I can easily enjoy some scratchy old LP on my turntable, just as much as th=
e cleanest, &quot;purest&quot; 16-24 (and?) bit rate recorded music, and ev=
erything else in between.<br><br>But also, in &quot;defense&quot; of the al=
l-digital-world of music folks , one *reality* is that *not everyone* can h=
ave or afford to have a *place* that they *live in* that can also accommoda=
te<br>
the storage area necessary for having whatever numbers of the physical form=
ats (especially if someone is a music *fanatic* like Moi!) , and I can cert=
ainly sympathize with that<br>situation that a lot of folks unavoidably fin=
d themselves in, and / or folks who, by the very nature of how they make th=
eir living, have to relocate on a frequent basis.<br>
Lucky for me, I am not in=A0 either of those situations, but do understand =
what many others may be dealing with, and if all-digital, etc, is only what=
 they have, then so be it.<br>But, do not say or mandate that this is the &=
quot;only&quot; way it has to be, or even will be. Personally, the idea of =
an &quot;all digital world&quot; with anything / everything, besides music,=
 and more especially if forced / mandated, kind of kreeps me out.=A0 But, m=
aybe that&#39;s just me....? :-) (but I=A0 am also not some &quot;Luddite&q=
uot;, either.)<br>
<br>Also, as far as making CDs being &quot;stupid&quot; as someone on the l=
ist said, he and anyone else who thinks that way should take a look at the =
still ongoing success (about 10 years now)<br>of a business such as CD Baby=
=A0 (also here in Portland) which still continues to expand and sell their =
stock of those &quot;stupid&quot; CDs, along with also digital downloads, o=
f course.<br>
(these CDB folks ain&#39;t &quot;stupid&quot;. :-))=A0 My own CDs still con=
tinue to sell there, along with DDLs of course, and the same goes for a LOT=
 of other musical artists that signed up with CDB.<br>( Disclaimer: I do no=
t work for CDB, but do like their service.)<br>
<br>And in closing, around 2 or so years ago, I read a report about the new=
 growth in popularity of LPs (both &quot;old&quot; and new) among a range o=
f ages of teenagers and young<br>20-somethings adults. The answer that MOST=
 of them gave for WHY they, those who have grown up surrounded by and with =
computers ipods, mp3s, and even CDs,<br>
liked that &quot;old&quot;=A0 format of vinyl was that those records &quot;=
sounded much better&quot; (verbatim)=A0 than anything else they had heard. =
No kidding. That is what they said.<br><br>Now of course, there can be a bi=
g and LOOONG debate over &quot;how&quot; or &quot;why&quot; something sound=
s better over something else, and I *ain&#39;t* going *there*. So if that c=
omes up,<br>
then I&#39;m staying out of that argument, because I honestly just do not c=
are. I just wanted to share what I had read about with a lot of &quot;today=
&#39;s&quot; kids and the resurgence in<br>popularity of vinyl that they ha=
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>From what I recall Eno (a few years ago) said it was ok to download music for free. He said there was nothing wrong with that. But obviously that's only for him because his last CD wasn't free. And I don't think he produces records for free. His iPhone apps aren't free.

As for the whole cover art thing, I think it is important and part of the whole package. I spend a lot of time on it with my brother (who's a graphic artist). But it's pretty easy to include a PDF of the liner notes/art work.


> From: Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>
> Date: January 26, 2010 2:52:09 PM EST
> To: <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: RE: Brian Eno about recorded music
> 
> I've heard that many times too. I'm not sure what to think about that. 
> One part of me says that I really liked some of the album cover art and the other says "It's about the music isnt it?" Vibrations in the air, who cares how it gets there...
> I'm confused...
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what I recall Eno (a few years ago) said it was ok to download music for =
free. He said there was nothing wrong with that. But obviously that's =
only for him because his last CD wasn't free. And I don't think he =
produces records for free. His iPhone apps aren't =
free.<div><br></div><div>As for the whole cover art thing, I think it is =
important and part of the whole package. I spend a lot of time on it =
with my brother (who's a graphic artist). But it's pretty easy to =
include a PDF of the liner notes/art =
work.<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
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margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>From: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">Gareth Whittock &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:buddhamachine@live.co.uk">buddhamachine@live.co.uk</a>&gt;<=
br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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says that I really liked some of the album cover art and the other says =
"It's about the music isnt it?" Vibrations in the air, who cares how it =
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So you're the person who bought a zune!


On Jan 26, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:

> From: Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>
> Date: January 26, 2010 4:46:15 PM EST
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> Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music
> 
> 
> Man, I just had a lot of fun Sunday hooking up my DAT recorder and listening to collections of various artists I recorded in the past, my own work, etc. Must be something wrong with me.
>  
> A downside of digital media is the management of it. My Zune really sucks at organizing songs particularly songs I recorded from various media like records and cassette tapes. 'Course it's from Microsoft.
> 


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127, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';=
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music</b><br></span></div><br><br><table cellspacing=3D"0" =
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just had a lot of fun Sunday hooking up my DAT recorder and listening =
to&nbsp;collections of various artists I recorded in the past, my own =
work, etc. Must be something wrong with me.</div>
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<div>A downside of digital media is the management of it. My Zune really =
sucks at organizing songs particularly songs I recorded from various =
media like records and cassette tapes. 'Course it's from =
Microsoft.</div>
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Dude, get rid of the blubber while you can!  ;)

Just kidding, on one hand I agree with what you and others are saying, that albums were (are) cool, and that's what we are used to and what we like. But I have 3 teenagers, and they haven't bought a CD in a few years. It's just the way it is. In fact, they rarely watch TV, all of their entertainment comes from online (some TV shows are on the web, of course).

Some day I need to get one of those ipods.......

Eric




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Might be a generational thing, but for my 58 year old part when I plunk down my
money I much prefer an actual physical object rather than permission to
access a "stream" or whatever.  And I sure don't want to spend money on an inferior format like mp3.


      
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Hey all,

I do these monthly gigs in this beautiful venue in Hoorn in The =
Netherlands. They are called "Reyn vs ..." and every month I choose a =
different artist to play with and there is often some looping involved.

We don't rehearse but I send some videos during the weeks before the =
show with what my 'plans' are. You get some really interresting =
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Here are  2 examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dxk5VFAuG27k
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More videos can be found on www.reyn.vs.reyn.net.

Talk to you guys soon,

Cheers,

Reyn

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And how the heck can you clean the seeds out of your pot with an ipod?!?!

Where'd my Yes album go??

=20

JDDevros
=20


Date: Tue=2C 26 Jan 2010 13:46:15 -0800
From: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com






Man=2C I just had a lot of fun Sunday hooking up my DAT recorder and listen=
ing to collections of various artists I recorded in the past=2C my own work=
=2C etc. Must be something wrong with me.
=20
A downside of digital media is the management of it. My Zune really sucks a=
t organizing songs particularly songs I recorded from various media like re=
cords and cassette tapes. 'Course it's from Microsoft.
=20
Also=2C what about the other physical elements of recordings? i.e. enclosed=
 booklets=2C DVD's w/interviews & concerts? I'm going to pop almost 100 faz=
ules for the Genesis 1970-1975 boxset just to get all the tinsel surroundin=
g the music.

--- On Tue=2C 1/26/10=2C Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:


From: Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com>
Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday=2C January 26=2C 2010=2C 4:26 PM


> One thing to keep in mind is archiving which generally requires a phisica=
l medium that is relativly permanant. That's why we can still hear Edison's=
 voice.

How about Edison as a ring tone? Or=2C maybe the voice of Alexander Graham =
Bell be more appropriate? :-)

However=2C even though I am a LONG time admirer of Eno (and still very much=
 am)=2C I do not completely agree with what he says here. (And with what Pe=
r says=2C as well. Sorry. :-))
Physical media for music may be "dying" in general=2C and in the (gag!) "in=
dustry"=2C but it will still be with us in it's various forms for many year=
s to come. In the last few years=2C
there has also been a noticeable revival in interest in vinyl records=2C bo=
th new and used=2C and even a wee tiny one in cassettes. And=2C there are m=
ore turntables
(and accessories) being manufactured again than what was done in the last 1=
0-15 years=2C or so. Now of course=2C none of these physical medias will ev=
er come even close
to their former positions and stature in the music "industry"=2C but at lea=
st records have made a bit of a "comeback"=2C and there must be some reason=
s for that.
These types of things just do not "happen" for no real reason.  (see at lea=
st one reason later below...)

As for the various physical medias for music=2C there is obviously still a =
very big interest in all of them=2C since records=2C both new and used=2C a=
re still selling like hot cakes=2C
both in kool indy record shops=2C and online. I also witness this with the =
numbers of regular sales of LPs and 7"s on my ebay site (going good for abo=
ut 10 years now)=2C
along with even *cassettes* (both very rare and not so rare) and even *8 tr=
ack carts* and *reel tapes*!
(No kidding. A LOT of people. of all ages=2C still look for and purchase al=
l of these formats.)

As for records=2C here in the Portland=2C Oregon area alone =2C there are a=
round *20*=2C if not more=2C RECORD stores and it appears that most (or all=
?) of them continue to do good business=2C
or at least good enough to keep the doors open=2C and especially during one=
 of the *worst* economic times in decades. (With "thanks" to that a-hole Bu=
sh and the Rethuglicans!)

And=2C as for those who think that an all digital world is the only way to =
be and go=2C well they should be grateful that those "old" physical medias =
still exist since there is a near infinite number of great=2C rare (and not=
 so rare=2C but still not in digital format) and incredible musics that can=
 *no longer be found except* via those same "outdated" medias=2C but can of=
 course=2C
also be transferred into the digital realm=2C which is something I do all o=
f the time and on a regular basis=2C for both my own personal use in iTunes=
 (or whatever)  and also to share for
free ( I NEVER SELL dubs of anything!) to friends=2C and sometimes others i=
n money-free trades.  And=2C the newer LPs (and?) that come out also serve =
as LONG lasting "storage units"
or "back ups"  (or "physical holders") for musics of all kinds. Don't write=
 all of these things off yet=2C or at least not so quickly.

Also=2C it seems to me that someone runs the risk of *losing* a *lot* (or e=
ven *all*!) of their vast collection of great music by keeping it all only =
on an ipod or computer=2C etc=2C should
something really bad happen to any of those.  But of course=2C they likely =
could retrieve most=2C or even all of it back again=2C but it *would take a=
 LONG time* of looking=2C searching=2C
to do so.  As for me=2C I believe and use ALL ways and means to have music=
=2C all the way from many LPs and 7"s and 10"s=2C to cassettes=2C to reel t=
apes=2C and yes=2C even some *8 tracks*=2C
and also streaming=2C mp3s=2C or whatever. (still don't have an ipod yet. M=
aybe one day...?)  If I am simply able to just HEAR something at all =2C th=
en I'm HAPPY!
I have also never believed in limiting my options with just about  anything=
=2C especially the experience of music. And as for "how" something sounds? =
I'm not picky.
I can easily enjoy some scratchy old LP on my turntable=2C just as much as =
the cleanest=2C "purest" 16-24 (and?) bit rate recorded music=2C and everyt=
hing else in between.

But also=2C in "defense" of the all-digital-world of music folks =2C one *r=
eality* is that *not everyone* can have or afford to have a *place* that th=
ey *live in* that can also accommodate
the storage area necessary for having whatever numbers of the physical form=
ats (especially if someone is a music *fanatic* like Moi!) =2C and I can ce=
rtainly sympathize with that
situation that a lot of folks unavoidably find themselves in=2C and / or fo=
lks who=2C by the very nature of how they make their living=2C have to relo=
cate on a frequent basis.
Lucky for me=2C I am not in  either of those situations=2C but do understan=
d what many others may be dealing with=2C and if all-digital=2C etc=2C is o=
nly what they have=2C then so be it.
But=2C do not say or mandate that this is the "only" way it has to be=2C or=
 even will be. Personally=2C the idea of an "all digital world" with anythi=
ng / everything=2C besides music=2C and more especially if forced / mandate=
d=2C kind of kreeps me out.  But=2C maybe that's just me....? :-) (but I  a=
m also not some "Luddite"=2C either.)

Also=2C as far as making CDs being "stupid" as someone on the list said=2C =
he and anyone else who thinks that way should take a look at the still ongo=
ing success (about 10 years now)
of a business such as CD Baby  (also here in Portland) which still continue=
s to expand and sell their stock of those "stupid" CDs=2C along with also d=
igital downloads=2C of course.
(these CDB folks ain't "stupid". :-))  My own CDs still continue to sell th=
ere=2C along with DDLs of course=2C and the same goes for a LOT of other mu=
sical artists that signed up with CDB.
( Disclaimer: I do not work for CDB=2C but do like their service.)

And in closing=2C around 2 or so years ago=2C I read a report about the new=
 growth in popularity of LPs (both "old" and new) among a range of ages of =
teenagers and young
20-somethings adults. The answer that MOST of them gave for WHY they=2C tho=
se who have grown up surrounded by and with computers ipods=2C mp3s=2C and =
even CDs=2C
liked that "old"  format of vinyl was that those records "sounded much bett=
er" (verbatim)  than anything else they had heard. No kidding. That is what=
 they said.

Now of course=2C there can be a big and LOOONG debate over "how" or "why" s=
omething sounds better over something else=2C and I *ain't* going *there*. =
So if that comes up=2C
then I'm staying out of that argument=2C because I honestly just do not car=
e. I just wanted to share what I had read about with a lot of "today's" kid=
s and the resurgence in
popularity of vinyl that they have apparently helped to bring about. :-)

Cheers=2C
Rev. Fever
Portland=2C OR




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And how the heck can you clean the seeds out of your pot with an ipod?!?!<B=
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Where'd my Yes album go??<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
JDDevros<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>
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Date: Tue=2C 26 Jan 2010 13:46:15 -0800<BR>From: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.co=
m<BR>Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music<BR>To: Loopers-Delight@loo=
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<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>A downside of digital media is the management of it. My Zune really su=
cks at organizing songs particularly songs I recorded from various media li=
ke records and cassette tapes. 'Course it's from Microsoft.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>Also=2C what about the other physical elements of recordings? i.e. enc=
losed booklets=2C DVD's w/interviews &amp=3B concerts? I'm going to pop alm=
ost 100 fazules for the Genesis 1970-1975 boxset just to get all the tinsel=
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rgb(16=2C16=2C255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Revfever &lt=3Brevfever@ubergadget.=
com&gt=3B<BR>Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music<BR>To: Loopers-Del=
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Case in point, yesterday was the anniversary of Bell's first telephone =
system I think.


From: Revfever=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:26 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music


> One thing to keep in mind is archiving which generally requires a =20
> phisical medium that is relativly permanant. That's why we can =20
> still hear Edison's voice.

How about Edison as a ring tone? Or, maybe the voice of Alexander =20
Graham Bell be more appropriate? :-)

However, even though I am a LONG time admirer of Eno (and still very =20
much am), I do not completely agree with what he says here. (And with =20
what Per says, as well. Sorry. :-))
Physical media for music may be "dying" in general, and in the (gag!) =20
"industry", but it will still be with us in it's various forms for =20
many years to come. In the last few years,
there has also been a noticeable revival in interest in vinyl =20
records, both new and used, and even a wee tiny one in cassettes. =20
And, there are more turntables
(and accessories) being manufactured again than what was done in the =20
last 10-15 years, or so. Now of course, none of these physical medias =20
will ever come even close
to their former positions and stature in the music "industry", but at =20
least records have made a bit of a "comeback", and there must be some =20
reasons for that.
These types of things just do not "happen" for no real reason.  (see =20
at least one reason later below...)

As for the various physical medias for music, there is obviously =20
still a very big interest in all of them, since records, both new and =20
used, are still selling like hot cakes,
both in kool indy record shops, and online. I also witness this with =20
the numbers of regular sales of LPs and 7"s on my ebay site (going =20
good for about 10 years now),
along with even *cassettes* (both very rare and not so rare) and even =20
*8 track carts* and *reel tapes*!
(No kidding. A LOT of people. of all ages, still look for and =20
purchase all of these formats.)

As for records, here in the Portland, Oregon area alone , there are =20
around *20*, if not more, RECORD stores and it appears that most (or =20
all?) of them continue to do good business,
or at least good enough to keep the doors open, and especially during =20
one of the *worst* economic times in decades. (With "thanks" to that =20
a-hole Bush and the Rethuglicans!)

And, as for those who think that an all digital world is the only way =20
to be and go, well they should be grateful that those "old" physical =20
medias still exist since there is a near infinite number of great, =20
rare (and not so rare, but still not in digital format) and =20
incredible musics that can *no longer be found except* via those same =20
"outdated" medias, but can of course,
also be transferred into the digital realm, which is something I do =20
all of the time and on a regular basis, for both my own personal use =20
in iTunes (or whatever)  and also to share for
free ( I NEVER SELL dubs of anything!) to friends, and sometimes =20
others in money-free trades.  And, the newer LPs (and?) that come out =20
also serve as LONG lasting "storage units"
or "back ups"  (or "physical holders") for musics of all kinds. Don't =20
write all of these things off yet, or at least not so quickly.

Also, it seems to me that someone runs the risk of *losing* a *lot* =20
(or even *all*!) of their vast collection of great music by keeping =20
it all only on an ipod or computer, etc, should
something really bad happen to any of those.  But of course, they =20
likely could retrieve most, or even all of it back again, but it =20
*would take a LONG time* of looking, searching,
to do so.  As for me, I believe and use ALL ways and means to have =20
music, all the way from many LPs and 7"s and 10"s, to cassettes, to =20
reel tapes, and yes, even some *8 tracks*,
and also streaming, mp3s, or whatever. (still don't have an ipod yet. =20
Maybe one day...?)  If I am simply able to just HEAR something at =20
all , then I'm HAPPY!
I have also never believed in limiting my options with just about  =20
anything, especially the experience of music. And as for "how" =20
something sounds? I'm not picky.
I can easily enjoy some scratchy old LP on my turntable, just as much =20
as the cleanest, "purest" 16-24 (and?) bit rate recorded music, and =20
everything else in between.

But also, in "defense" of the all-digital-world of music folks , one =20
*reality* is that *not everyone* can have or afford to have a *place* =20
that they *live in* that can also accommodate
the storage area necessary for having whatever numbers of the =20
physical formats (especially if someone is a music *fanatic* like =20
Moi!) , and I can certainly sympathize with that
situation that a lot of folks unavoidably find themselves in, and / =20
or folks who, by the very nature of how they make their living, have =20
to relocate on a frequent basis.
Lucky for me, I am not in  either of those situations, but do =20
understand what many others may be dealing with, and if all-digital, =20
etc, is only what they have, then so be it.
But, do not say or mandate that this is the "only" way it has to be, =20
or even will be. Personally, the idea of an "all digital world" with =20
anything / everything, besides music, and more especially if forced / =20
mandated, kind of kreeps me out.  But, maybe that's just me....? :-) =20
(but I  am also not some "Luddite", either.)

Also, as far as making CDs being "stupid" as someone on the list =20
said, he and anyone else who thinks that way should take a look at =20
the still ongoing success (about 10 years now)
of a business such as CD Baby  (also here in Portland) which still =20
continues to expand and sell their stock of those "stupid" CDs, along =20
with also digital downloads, of course.
(these CDB folks ain't "stupid". :-))  My own CDs still continue to =20
sell there, along with DDLs of course, and the same goes for a LOT of =20
other musical artists that signed up with CDB.
( Disclaimer: I do not work for CDB, but do like their service.)

And in closing, around 2 or so years ago, I read a report about the =20
new growth in popularity of LPs (both "old" and new) among a range of =20
ages of teenagers and young
20-somethings adults. The answer that MOST of them gave for WHY they, =20
those who have grown up surrounded by and with computers ipods, mp3s, =20
and even CDs,
liked that "old"  format of vinyl was that those records "sounded =20
much better" (verbatim)  than anything else they had heard. No =20
kidding. That is what they said.

Now of course, there can be a big and LOOONG debate over "how" or =20
"why" something sounds better over something else, and I *ain't* =20
going *there*. So if that comes up,
then I'm staying out of that argument, because I honestly just do not =20
care. I just wanted to share what I had read about with a lot of =20
"today's" kids and the resurgence in
popularity of vinyl that they have apparently helped to bring about. :-)

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland, OR


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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:26 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Brian Eno about recorded =
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<DIV><BR></DIV>&gt; One thing to keep in mind is archiving which =
generally=20
requires a&nbsp; <BR>&gt; phisical medium that is relativly permanant. =
That's=20
why we can&nbsp; <BR>&gt; still hear Edison's voice.<BR><BR>How about =
Edison as=20
a ring tone? Or, maybe the voice of Alexander&nbsp; <BR>Graham Bell be =
more=20
appropriate? :-)<BR><BR>However, even though I am a LONG time admirer of =
Eno=20
(and still very&nbsp; <BR>much am), I do not completely agree with what =
he says=20
here. (And with&nbsp; <BR>what Per says, as well. Sorry. =
:-))<BR>Physical media=20
for music may be "dying" in general, and in the (gag!)&nbsp; =
<BR>"industry", but=20
it will still be with us in it's various forms for&nbsp; <BR>many years =
to come.=20
In the last few years,<BR>there has also been a noticeable revival in =
interest=20
in vinyl&nbsp; <BR>records, both new and used, and even a wee tiny one =
in=20
cassettes.&nbsp; <BR>And, there are more turntables<BR>(and accessories) =
being=20
manufactured again than what was done in the&nbsp; <BR>last 10-15 years, =
or so.=20
Now of course, none of these physical medias&nbsp; <BR>will ever come =
even=20
close<BR>to their former positions and stature in the music "industry", =
but=20
at&nbsp; <BR>least records have made a bit of a "comeback", and there =
must be=20
some&nbsp; <BR>reasons for that.<BR>These types of things just do not =
"happen"=20
for no real reason.&nbsp; (see&nbsp; <BR>at least one reason later=20
below...)<BR><BR>As for the various physical medias for music, there is=20
obviously&nbsp; <BR>still a very big interest in all of them, since =
records,=20
both new and&nbsp; <BR>used, are still selling like hot cakes,<BR>both =
in kool=20
indy record shops, and online. I also witness this with&nbsp; <BR>the =
numbers of=20
regular sales of LPs and 7"s on my ebay site (going&nbsp; <BR>good for =
about 10=20
years now),<BR>along with even *cassettes* (both very rare and not so =
rare) and=20
even&nbsp; <BR>*8 track carts* and *reel tapes*!<BR>(No kidding. A LOT =
of=20
people. of all ages, still look for and&nbsp; <BR>purchase all of these=20
formats.)<BR><BR>As for records, here in the Portland, Oregon area alone =
, there=20
are&nbsp; <BR>around *20*, if not more, RECORD stores and it appears =
that most=20
(or&nbsp; <BR>all?) of them continue to do good business,<BR>or at least =
good=20
enough to keep the doors open, and especially during&nbsp; <BR>one of =
the=20
*worst* economic times in decades. (With "thanks" to that&nbsp; =
<BR>a-hole Bush=20
and the Rethuglicans!)<BR><BR>And, as for those who think that an all =
digital=20
world is the only way&nbsp; <BR>to be and go, well they should be =
grateful that=20
those "old" physical&nbsp; <BR>medias still exist since there is a near =
infinite=20
number of great,&nbsp; <BR>rare (and not so rare, but still not in =
digital=20
format) and&nbsp; <BR>incredible musics that can *no longer be found =
except* via=20
those same&nbsp; <BR>"outdated" medias, but can of course,<BR>also be=20
transferred into the digital realm, which is something I do&nbsp; =
<BR>all of the=20
time and on a regular basis, for both my own personal use&nbsp; <BR>in =
iTunes=20
(or whatever)&nbsp; and also to share for<BR>free ( I NEVER SELL dubs of =

anything!) to friends, and sometimes&nbsp; <BR>others in money-free=20
trades.&nbsp; And, the newer LPs (and?) that come out&nbsp; <BR>also =
serve as=20
LONG lasting "storage units"<BR>or "back ups"&nbsp; (or "physical =
holders") for=20
musics of all kinds. Don't&nbsp; <BR>write all of these things off yet, =
or at=20
least not so quickly.<BR><BR>Also, it seems to me that someone runs the =
risk of=20
*losing* a *lot*&nbsp; <BR>(or even *all*!) of their vast collection of =
great=20
music by keeping&nbsp; <BR>it all only on an ipod or computer, etc,=20
should<BR>something really bad happen to any of those.&nbsp; But of =
course,=20
they&nbsp; <BR>likely could retrieve most, or even all of it back again, =
but=20
it&nbsp; <BR>*would take a LONG time* of looking, searching,<BR>to do =
so.&nbsp;=20
As for me, I believe and use ALL ways and means to have&nbsp; <BR>music, =
all the=20
way from many LPs and 7"s and 10"s, to cassettes, to&nbsp; <BR>reel =
tapes, and=20
yes, even some *8 tracks*,<BR>and also streaming, mp3s, or whatever. =
(still=20
don't have an ipod yet.&nbsp; <BR>Maybe one day...?)&nbsp; If I am =
simply able=20
to just HEAR something at&nbsp; <BR>all , then I'm HAPPY!<BR>I have also =
never=20
believed in limiting my options with just about&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<BR>anything,=20
especially the experience of music. And as for "how"&nbsp; <BR>something =
sounds?=20
I'm not picky.<BR>I can easily enjoy some scratchy old LP on my =
turntable, just=20
as much&nbsp; <BR>as the cleanest, "purest" 16-24 (and?) bit rate =
recorded=20
music, and&nbsp; <BR>everything else in between.<BR><BR>But also, in =
"defense"=20
of the all-digital-world of music folks , one&nbsp; <BR>*reality* is =
that *not=20
everyone* can have or afford to have a *place*&nbsp; <BR>that they *live =
in*=20
that can also accommodate<BR>the storage area necessary for having =
whatever=20
numbers of the&nbsp; <BR>physical formats (especially if someone is a =
music=20
*fanatic* like&nbsp; <BR>Moi!) , and I can certainly sympathize with=20
that<BR>situation that a lot of folks unavoidably find themselves in, =
and=20
/&nbsp; <BR>or folks who, by the very nature of how they make their =
living,=20
have&nbsp; <BR>to relocate on a frequent basis.<BR>Lucky for me, I am =
not=20
in&nbsp; either of those situations, but do&nbsp; <BR>understand what =
many=20
others may be dealing with, and if all-digital,&nbsp; <BR>etc, is only =
what they=20
have, then so be it.<BR>But, do not say or mandate that this is the =
"only" way=20
it has to be,&nbsp; <BR>or even will be. Personally, the idea of an "all =
digital=20
world" with&nbsp; <BR>anything / everything, besides music, and more =
especially=20
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that's=20
just me....? :-)&nbsp; <BR>(but I&nbsp; am also not some "Luddite",=20
either.)<BR><BR>Also, as far as making CDs being "stupid" as someone on =
the=20
list&nbsp; <BR>said, he and anyone else who thinks that way should take =
a look=20
at&nbsp; <BR>the still ongoing success (about 10 years now)<BR>of a =
business=20
such as CD Baby&nbsp; (also here in Portland) which still&nbsp; =
<BR>continues to=20
expand and sell their stock of those "stupid" CDs, along&nbsp; <BR>with =
also=20
digital downloads, of course.<BR>(these CDB folks ain't "stupid". =
:-))&nbsp; My=20
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course, and=20
the same goes for a LOT of&nbsp; <BR>other musical artists that signed =
up with=20
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CDs,<BR>liked=20
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a big=20
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over=20
something else, and I *ain't*&nbsp; <BR>going *there*. So if that comes=20
up,<BR>then I'm staying out of that argument, because I honestly just do =

not&nbsp; <BR>care. I just wanted to share what I had read about with a =
lot=20
of&nbsp; <BR>"today's" kids and the resurgence in<BR>popularity of vinyl =
that=20
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I do think that we are going to see a rapid dwindling of physical media
for recordings.<br>
It's inevitable given the iPod generations' predilection for instant
access to mostly free music.<br>
<br>
At the same time,&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm with Mark Francombe about the importance in my
life of&nbsp; the hundreds of hours I've spent all over the world <br>
in record and CD shops...........browsing over live gig merch tables,&nbsp;
talking about music with other <br>
music lovers in, gasp,&nbsp; real time and not on chat;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Handing a
physical copy of a CD to someone who I'm trying <br>
introduce a new artist to......watching them look at the artwork as
they experience the music.<br>
<br>
I love artwork (and even have been purchasing Vinyl which has trebled
in volume at the wonderful local indie all vinyl record <br>
store, Meta Music and the large indie CD/Vinyl record store Streetlight
Records in Santa Cruz where I live.&nbsp; <br>
(also,&nbsp; as a side note:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; many of the oldest of the baby boomers are
beginning to pass away now and&nbsp; there are incredible <br>
Vinyl music collections coming into Logos Books and Records in the past
couple of years.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Record players <br>
are also seeing a huge boon in sales.&nbsp; they are for sale in at least a
half a dozen locations on our own Pacific Garden Mall.<br>
<br>
As a self proclaimed music fetishist,&nbsp;&nbsp; I love taking out CD artwork
and reading it and perusing it.<br>
I love reading album liner notes and looking at the cover art.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Hell, I love the feel of taking a vinyl record out of it's sleeve.<br>
<br>
Right now I'm really enjoying listening to <b>Matt Davignon's </b>excellent
new release <b>"Living Things" </b>in glorious 16 bit/44k CD quality&nbsp;
<br>
and enjoying the hell out of his really beautiful zen
graphics...............also I'm really digging that I paid for it to
support his wonderful artistry.<br>
<br>
This may make me a dinosaur but there is an aesthetic enhancement to me
and makes the entire experience more pleasing.<br>
I just jammed with Peter Hayes of BRMC down at NAMM and loving his
musical sensibility but being unfamiliar with his <br>
work,&nbsp; I delighted in taking a couple of days to track down three of
his CDs in used condition and going to support <br>
my local independent record store (which hires several extremely good
indie musicians by the way) and buy the remaining <br>
one at full pop.<br>
<br>
I just wouldn't get the same kind of joy out of downloading even a high
fidelity FLAC recording for my iTunes on my laptops <br>
(and,&nbsp; shudder,&nbsp; I still don't own an MP3 player).<br>
<br>
And we haven't even talked about the sound yet.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
There is something really enjoyable to me about the sound of Vinyl,&nbsp;
the sound of CDs,&nbsp; hell,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; even the sound of old cassettes <br>
(whose only copies of roots reggae I have on that medium).<br>
<br>
It's just a different experience.&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps not better, but certainly
enjoyable.<br>
<br>
So,&nbsp; I"m truly hoping that the vinyl record, the CD,&nbsp; the audio
cassette, the reel to reel tape recorder and the wire and cylinder
recordings <br>
to disappear for good.<br>
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I listen more to my iPhone apps, Pandora and AOL radio, and I pick out
specific recordings less often. I like being surprised by music I
haven't heard before. It's a very different listening experience to
picking out a particular recording, and it's also very different than
listening to over-the-air radio.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:57 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote=
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> I expect he's trying to promote his i=3DPhone apps.
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> chris@christojota.de wrote:
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>> Don=B4t agree with Eno. I want to sit on my sofa listening
>> to Ambient music records and relax...
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>>
>> =A0 =A0"I think records were just a little bubble through time and those=
 who
>> =A0 =A0made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reaso=
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>> =A0 =A0why anyone should have made so much money from selling records
>> =A0 =A0except that everything was right for this period of time. I alway=
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>>
>> =A0 =A0(Brian Eno 2010-01-17 The Guardian)
>
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 Per said,  "The live scene is reported as increasing too, as I hear 
from most countries."

Not sure how it is in Sweden, Per,  but this is NOT the case in the US, 
or at least in Northern California.
  There has been a rise in the number of live shows compared to how 
horrible it was here 5 years ago,
but audience numbers are minuscule compared to what they were in , say 
the early 80's in Santa Cruz.
In those days,  there were several local bands that could sell out the 
Catalyst (809 capacity) with
regularity.

In 1993,  my band Worlds Collide played the Catalyst once and drew close 
to 700 customers.
We weren't asked back because our customers didn't drink enough.   700 
people
is a hell of a lot of people.

Nowadays, you are lucky if you get 50 people to come see a show.   Most 
shows have 20-30 people
attending and most people balk at every spending more than $3-$5 USD for 
a show.

I have a show this coming Saturday night at the Catalyst with Noise 
Clinic and I"m afraid of what the
attendance will be.

Attendance, I've read, nationally, is down even in the 'big bin' 
shows.   Many groups that used to be able to
sell out the 'big bin' shows are now doubling and even trebling up on 
their billings to be able to
make enough draw to justify playing such huge places.

Tony Levin,  Terry Bozio,  Alan Holdsworth and Pat Mastelleto just played
a 200 seat club in Santa Cruz....................The last time Tony came 
(with a lineup not nearly
as famous)  he played a 700 seater.

But Santa Cruz is an anomalous place sociologically speaking, so I don't 
know if it is representative.
We have vastly more live entertainment per capita than any place I've 
ever toured in and we just aren't a very
big city (60,000 plus another 40,000 in our environs)

What's it like in your city and/or country.  Attendance up or attendance 
down at shows?   Indie shows?
Experimental shows?   Up or down?   I"m curious.

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Love it.

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On Tue, January 26, 2010 8:13 pm, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I do these monthly gigs in this beautiful venue in Hoorn in The
> Netherlands. They are called "Reyn vs ..." and every month I choose a
> different artist to play with and there is often some looping involved.
>
> We don't rehearse but I send some videos during the weeks before the show
> with what my 'plans' are. You get some really interresting sessions.
>
> Here are  2 examples:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk5VFAuG27k
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybvmAKaOrI8
>
> More videos can be found on www.reyn.vs.reyn.net.
>
> Talk to you guys soon,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Reyn
>
> www.reyn.net
>





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<P>I am with Rick on this. There is a sensation that you can get nowhere bu=
t with the physical medium. Vinyl, CD, Cassette. The artwork. Getting all o=
f the artistic mojo that you can derive from reading and experiencing the a=
rtwork of the physical medium. Hell, there may even be something to do with=
 just holding it. I don't know. But there is something special there that i=
s lost on the I-Pod generation. I concur.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>As for live music, I haven't been experiencing much personally due to wo=
rk, school and two young children. However, there seems to be more venues f=
or it all of the time here in Denver.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Todd<BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MAR=
GIN-LEFT: 0px">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Rick Walker <LOOPPOOL@C=
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ns' predilection for instant access to mostly free music.<BR><BR>At the sam=
e time,&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm with Mark Francombe about the importance in my life=
 of&nbsp; the hundreds of hours I've spent all over the world <BR>in record=
 and CD shops...........browsing over live gig merch tables,&nbsp; talking =
about music with other <BR>music lovers in, gasp,&nbsp; real time and not o=
n chat;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Handing a physical copy of a CD to someone who I'=
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ll vinyl record <BR>store, Meta Music and the large indie CD/Vinyl record s=
tore Streetlight Records in Santa Cruz where I live.&nbsp; <BR>(also,&nbsp;=
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mers are beginning to pass away now and&nbsp; there are incredible <BR>Viny=
l music collections coming into Logos Books and Records in the past couple =
of years.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Record players <BR>are also seeing a huge=
 boon in sales.&nbsp; they are for sale in at least a half a dozen location=
s on our own Pacific Garden Mall.<BR><BR>As a self proclaimed music fetishi=
st,&nbsp;&nbsp; I love taking out CD artwork and reading it and perusing it=
.<BR>I love reading album liner notes and looking at the cover art.&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hell, I love the feel of taking a vinyl record out of it's=
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CD quality&nbsp; <BR>and enjoying the hell out of his really beautiful zen =
graphics...............also I'm really digging that I paid for it to suppor=
t his wonderful artistry.<BR><BR>This may make me a dinosaur but there is a=
n aesthetic enhancement to me and makes the entire experience more pleasing=
.<BR>I just jammed with Peter Hayes of BRMC down at NAMM and loving his mus=
ical sensibility but being unfamiliar with his <BR>work,&nbsp; I delighted =
in taking a couple of days to track down three of his CDs in used condition=
 and going to support <BR>my local independent record store (which hires se=
veral extremely good indie musicians by the way) and buy the remaining <BR>=
one at full pop.<BR><BR>I just wouldn't get the same kind of joy out of dow=
nloading even a high fidelity FLAC recording for my iTunes on my laptops <B=
R>(and,&nbsp; shudder,&nbsp; I still don't own an MP3 player).<BR><BR>And w=
e haven't even talked about the sound yet.&nbsp; <BR><BR>There is something=
 really enjoyable to me about the sound of Vinyl,&nbsp; the sound of CDs,&n=
bsp; hell,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; even the sound of old cassettes <BR>(whose onl=
y copies of roots reggae I have on that medium).<BR><BR>It's just a differe=
nt experience.&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps not better, but certainly enjoyable.<BR>=
<BR>So,&nbsp; I"m truly hoping that the vinyl record, the CD,&nbsp; the aud=
io cassette, the reel to reel tape recorder and the wire and cylinder recor=
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Went into Millennium Music in Portland Oregon recently and lost all =20
control.  Bought about thirty CDs.

If you live within 100 miles, go there and experience true love =20
again.  A real pleasure just to SEE so many CDs in one place.  Nearly =20=

everything!

And it was PACKED with shoppers.

MP3s are fine for reviewing songs and composition, but I really love =20
the SOUND of a CD over mp3s any day.  I know vinyl is more lush and =20
has more sweet highs, but CDs are much better than mp3s... IMSO.

You can make money selling CDs.  I've seen it with my own two eyes!  =20
But the middle has fallen away.

Some say Blue Ray could save the world of discs.  Surround for music =20
still hasn't gotten traction.  I suspect some of that is lack of =20
creativity on the part of us mix/production guys.   My hunch is it =20
could catch on at any point.

I love the INFORMATION on CDs.  I think if artists were more thorough =20=

with the metadata on mp3s that would help a lot.

Having said all that, there are ways to improve sales of all of your =20
media.  Have you watched this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNjuo1puB1lg

R

richard sales
www.glasswing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com
www.goodnaturefarms.com









On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Christophe wrote:

> Might be a generational thing, but for my 58 year old part when I =20
> plunk down my money I much prefer an actual physical object rather =20
> than permission to access a "stream" or whatever.  And I sure don't =20=

> want to spend money on an inferior format like mp3.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> To: "loopers-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:39:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada =20
> Eastern
> Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music
>
> Of course I agree with Eno too...the demise of records and CD=B4s was =20=

> inevitable (they had nice covers mind.. I miss them.. ALOT =20
> actually!!)  and the enormous amount of money made thru selling =20
> them, very rarely got to the people who actually made the music, =20
> apart from spectacularly well publicized stars who pranced about =20
> like idiots for  3 decades... I can live with out them...
>
> However, this
>
> "music can be streamed right into you preferred listening device" of =20=

> which Per drools.. is just a nightmare to me... I just cannot sit at =20=

> my computer for ANY MORE time than I already do.. either to PLAY my =20=

> music or to BUY my music.. I will not, shall not, buy from iTunes =20
> (despite having my own music up there - Im no fool..)
> Spotify?
> Nope.. yikes...
> Genius?
> HELP!!!
> That the web can figure out my taste in music from my collection, =20
> and then try to sell it to me... is just AWFUL.... I KNOW IT =20
> WORKS... Ive seen it in action.. but its just awful... God!!!! its =20
> my own computer, I bought it, its mine, I don't want it suggesting =20
> what I should buy, just like I don't want my fridge suggesting what =20=

> I should eat!!! Look You fucking SMEG... if I want chips Im gonna =20
> eat chips!! OK???
>
> The days of going by train to London, wandering off the Tottenham =20
> court road, into the lanes that contained indie record shop after =20
> indie record shop and standing there, leafing thru thousands of =20
> records, playing some on the shops sound system, discussing with =20
> owners, whether its better than the last, and heres a really rare =20
> bootleg... are gone... long gone... and Eno doesn't care? Well.. =20
> maybe not.
>
> Put it this way, I havent BOUGHT a record since I went into a shop =20
> and bought one... OH .. WAIT... I=B4ve bought a few of YOUR records, =20=

> from people on this list...
>
> Oh and Per?
> >The live scene is reported as increasing too, as I hear from most =20
> countries.
>
> Er.. that is very very very very very very wrong... Maybe the live =20
> scene has gone from totally completely crap, to just plain awful... =20=

> you and me both live in countries where the Arts are heavily =20
> subsidised (Call it Jazz in Norway, you get a grant!! ) so maybe we =20=

> dont notice too much, maybe its not too bad in the UK, where theay =20
> have always been over saturated with upcoming indie bands, but =20
> France? Germany, Italy, Spain, Im not so sure??? The days of a mid =20
> upcoming indie band getting tour support for a Euro tour is well an =20=

> truly over, and touring bands are either a) just sold a shedload =20
> maybe on iTunes) or slumming it doing  a "train-tour". I cant =20
> remember the last time I went to a UK band here in Oslo... there =20
> just not here!!!
>
> To summarise what I feel.. The loss of records and any selling =20
> medium was absolutely and completley inevitable, and I like Per and =20=

> Eno, foresaw it many many years ago...
> There ARE new options and fascinating and creative distribution =20
> ideas, Virtual gigs and streaming live free music, more and more are =20=

> self publishing and releasing small numbers of (sometime) very high =20=

> quality work, experimental musicians are actually just as visible as =20=

> capable as "pop" musicians in this new paradigm...
>
> ... but it doesnt mean that its a terrible shame... dont pretend it =20=

> isn't...
>
> Mark
>
>
> BTW, Vinyl sales are on the increase!!!
>
>
>
> --=20
> www.markfrancombe.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch


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CDs. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>If you live within 100 miles, go there =
and experience true love again. &nbsp;A real pleasure just to SEE so =
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everything!</div><div><br></div><div>And it was PACKED with shoppers. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>MP3s are fine for reviewing songs and =
composition, but I really love the SOUND of a CD over mp3s any day. =
&nbsp;I know vinyl is more lush and has more sweet highs, but CDs are =
much better than mp3s... IMSO.</div><div><br></div><div>You can make =
money selling CDs. &nbsp;I've seen it with my own two eyes! &nbsp;But =
the middle has fallen away. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Some say =
Blue Ray could save the world of discs. &nbsp;Surround for music still =
hasn't gotten traction. &nbsp;I suspect some of that is lack of =
creativity on the part of us mix/production guys. &nbsp; My hunch is it =
could catch on at any point. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I love the =
INFORMATION on CDs. &nbsp;I think if artists were more thorough with the =
metadata on mp3s that would help a lot. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Having said all that, there are ways to =
improve sales of all of your media. &nbsp;Have you watched =
this?</div><div><br></div><div><a =
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after-white-space; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
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widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
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after-white-space; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
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after-white-space; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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face=3D"Arial">richard sales</font></div><div><font =
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iv><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.goodnaturefarms.com">www.goodnaturefarms.com</a></font>=
</div><div><br></div></div></span><br =
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Jan 26, =
2010, at 11:07 AM, Christophe wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: =
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-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style=3D"font-family: =
Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Might be a generational =
thing, but for my 58 year old part when I plunk down my money I much =
prefer an actual physical object rather than permission to access a =
"stream" or whatever.&nbsp; And I sure don't want to spend money on an =
inferior format like mp3.<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: =
"mark francombe" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;<br>T=
o: "loopers-delight" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:39:30 PM GMT =
-05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded =
music<br><br>Of course I agree with Eno too...the demise of records and =
CD=B4s was inevitable (they had nice covers mind.. I miss them.. ALOT =
actually!!)&nbsp; and the enormous amount of money made thru selling =
them, very rarely got to the people who actually made the music, apart =
from spectacularly well publicized stars who pranced about like idiots =
for&nbsp; 3 decades... I can live with out them...<br><br>However, =
this<br><br>"music can be streamed right into you preferred listening =
device" of which Per drools.. is just a nightmare to me... I just cannot =
sit at my computer for ANY MORE time than I already do.. either to PLAY =
my music or to BUY my music.. I will not, shall not, buy from iTunes =
(despite having my own music up there - Im no =
fool..)<br>Spotify?<br>Nope.. yikes...<br>Genius?<br>HELP!!!<br>That the =
web can figure out my taste in music from my collection, and then try to =
sell it to me... is just AWFUL.... I KNOW IT WORKS... Ive seen it in =
action.. but its just awful... God!!!! its my own computer, I bought it, =
its mine, I don't want it suggesting what I should buy, just like I =
don't want my fridge suggesting what I should eat!!! Look You fucking =
SMEG... if I want chips Im gonna eat chips!! OK???<br><br>The days of =
going by train to London, wandering off the Tottenham court road, into =
the lanes that contained indie record shop after indie record shop and =
standing there, leafing thru thousands of records, playing some on the =
shops sound system, discussing with owners, whether its better than the =
last, and heres a really rare bootleg... are gone... long gone... and =
Eno doesn't care? Well.. maybe not.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><br>Put it this way, I =
havent BOUGHT a record since I went into a shop and bought one... OH .. =
WAIT... I=B4ve bought a few of YOUR records, from people on this =
list...<br><br>Oh and Per?<br>&gt;The live scene is reported as =
increasing too, as I hear from most countries.<br><br>Er.. that is very =
very very very very very wrong... Maybe the live scene has gone from =
totally completely crap, to just plain awful... you and me both live in =
countries where the Arts are heavily subsidised (Call it Jazz in Norway, =
you get a grant!! ) so maybe we dont notice too much, maybe its not too =
bad in the UK, where theay have always been over saturated with upcoming =
indie bands, but France? Germany, Italy, Spain, Im not so sure??? The =
days of a mid upcoming indie band getting tour support for a Euro tour =
is well an truly over, and touring bands are either a) just sold a =
shedload maybe on iTunes) or slumming it doing&nbsp; a "train-tour". I =
cant remember the last time I went to a UK band here in Oslo... there =
just not here!!!<br><br>To summarise what I feel.. The loss of records =
and any selling medium was absolutely and completley inevitable, and I =
like Per and Eno, foresaw it many many years ago...<br>There ARE new =
options and fascinating and creative distribution ideas, Virtual gigs =
and streaming live free music, more and more are self publishing and =
releasing small numbers of (sometime) very high quality work, =
experimental musicians are actually just as visible as capable as "pop" =
musicians in this new paradigm...<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><br>... but it doesnt =
mean that its a terrible shame... dont pretend it =
isn't...<br><br>Mark<br><br><br>BTW, Vinyl sales are on the =
increase!!!<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><br><br =
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we have a show next friday night, me as PA guy+dj (lol!). presenting a new
album of a local band, (15-20 thousand hab.) and we expect 50-70 people. bu=
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we manage to save money, through the year (we run a cheapo bar inside) that
mostly goes for the bands, talks, ... etc. for the friday, we prepare a
snack for all at 21h. (only 5=80), afterwards, comes the gig, plus, djing
until ... :-) 6a.m. we've even reached 300-400 people, but in spring-summer
time, when we take the street. we like parties (to say the least!).

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we have a show next friday night, me as PA guy+dj (lol!). presenting a new =
album of a local band, (15-20 thousand hab.) and we expect 50-70 people. bu=
t i must admit that &quot;l&#39;ateneu arrels&quot; holds some kind of soci=
al task around here that people respects. so this helps. it&#39;s not for p=
rofit &amp; even though, we manage to save money, through the year (we run =
a cheapo bar inside) that mostly goes for the bands, talks, ... etc. for th=
e friday, we prepare a snack for all at 21h. (only 5=80), afterwards, comes=
 the gig, plus, djing until ... :-) 6a.m. we&#39;ve even reached 300-400 pe=
ople, but in spring-summer time, when we take the street. we like parties (=
to say the least!). =A0 =A0 <br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/?ref=3Dhome#/photo.php?pid=3D3107333=
7&amp;o=3Dall&amp;op=3D1&amp;view=3Dall&amp;subj=3D268178159930&amp;aid=3D-=
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hi-
>
> . But there is something special there that is lost on the I-Pod  
> generation. I concur.
>
i'm not too sure that i agree with a great deal of the sentiment  
expressed here, re: the fetishism of owning plastic/vinyl discs.

i'm not the ipod generation, nor am i old enough to actually consider  
vinyl "the superior medium". i own a few thousand cd's, accumulated  
over the past two decades more or less. i own zero vinyl records. i  
have owned four ipods. i have not owned a cd player in a decade. my  
primary source for listening to music is my computer and my ipod. i do  
not pirate music, ever.

at the beginning of 2009, i decided to do an experiment, and switch  
all my music purchases to digital only for the whole year. ok, i  
cheated a few times (if, and only if) a band i liked came through  
town; i'd probably buy their cd if i liked their performance. that  
said, i will probably never purchase another cd / physical product.  
here's a short list:

1. the environmental cost is far too high. someday i'll be dead. and  
where will all that plastic end up? all those bulky jewel cases and  
shiny plastic coasters full of music that someone once cared about and  
now no one does. i don't like the idea of leaving a giant plastic  
footprint on the world.

2. they are low touch, high occupancy items. i buy a cd, i rip it in  
itunes, i shelve it. end of story. sure i might read the liner notes a  
time or two. but by and large it is literally sitting there taking up  
space for the next X number of years. eventually, we're back to point  
1, above.

3. artwork, whatever. if i had a dollar for every cd i've bought with  
terrible artwork with no information inside, i could go on an itunes  
shopping spree. a nicely done PDF can be FAR better than a printed  
booklet, if it's done with some creative vision.

4. record stores. sorry, but i really consider these a massive waste  
of time. don't get me wrong i used to get a lot of pleasure out of  
spending hours of my time and many many dollars at amoeba (here in SF,  
truly one of the nations best record stores). BUT, more often than  
not, they wouldn't have exactly what i was looking for, so i'd end up  
blindly buying other stuff with mixed results. so that can be pretty  
frustrating. sure, i came upon some great finds, but NOTHING can  
compare with highly tuned recommendation algorithms, not even friends  
recommendations. while i'm not too convinced by amazons recommender, i  
think emusic has a great one, and of course netflix (yes, different  
medium, but same principle) is basically unrivalled. add to that the  
fact that i can literally be listening to the record in my home  
environment in a matter of seconds, that's very compelling.

for me, digital is by far a superior music purchasing experience. i  
use itunes (rarely), amazon (occasionally), and emusic (like a crack  
addiction).

of course, as an artist, the move to digital has hurt my overall  
sales, as more people use file transfer for music piracy. that's an  
undeniable fact. BUT, it's helped me as well:

1. digital sales are 100% trackable. this means that the numbers  
reported to soundscan are 100% accurate. no more guesswork as to how  
many onestops out there don't subscribe to soundscan, meaning i have  
no idea what my actual sales numbers are. i have a perfectly good  
relationship with my label, but nonetheless, i like seeing concrete  
data too.

2. no physical product means that there are no more physical product  
returns affecting my sales. this is huge for me, as i got seriously  
screwed when tower records went out of business and returned over 2500  
copies of my second album. i'm almost, but not quite, out of that hole  
(several years later).

3. streaming revenue is making me more money now than physical sales  
on some of my records (the older ones in particular), which helps a  
lot. in a way, it's the perfect union of the above two points...how  
many broadcast radio stations really report accurate info? computer  
data allows for all of this to be 100% trackable, and helps my  
performing rights organization actually collect money and pay me!

i like the fact that eno is being so confrontational with his  
statement. artists are all too often throwing their hands in the air  
and bemoaning the death of the music industry. i've done it myself! so  
the challenge is to come up with other ways of making it work.

we're supposed to be creative people, right?

- tyler / informatik
- www.nymphomatik.com
===================

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I think there is a new paradigm here, it's more than just whether you
are getting the music delivered digitally or by a physical product.
The internet allows "narrowcasting." You can pick a genre (or in
Pandora's case, specific music features), and you can discover music
that you never would have found by browsing record bins or listening
to over the air radio. I've often wondered whether we'll someday
discuss music in the categories that Pandora uses. Apparently I like
"mixed major and minor modalities, funk roots, repetitive melodic
phrasing, rhythmic syncopation, funky rhythms, and an electric guitar
solo."

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:08 PM, tyler newman <tyler@batterycage.com> wrote:
> hi-
>>
>> . But there is something special there that is lost on the I-Pod
>> generation. I concur.
>>
> i'm not too sure that i agree with a great deal of the sentiment expressed
> here, re: the fetishism of owning plastic/vinyl discs.
>
> i'm not the ipod generation, nor am i old enough to actually consider vinyl
> "the superior medium". i own a few thousand cd's, accumulated over the past
> two decades more or less. i own zero vinyl records. i have owned four ipods.
> i have not owned a cd player in a decade. my primary source for listening to
> music is my computer and my ipod. i do not pirate music, ever.
>
> at the beginning of 2009, i decided to do an experiment, and switch all my
> music purchases to digital only for the whole year. ok, i cheated a few
> times (if, and only if) a band i liked came through town; i'd probably buy
> their cd if i liked their performance. that said, i will probably never
> purchase another cd / physical product. here's a short list:
>
> 1. the environmental cost is far too high. someday i'll be dead. and where
> will all that plastic end up? all those bulky jewel cases and shiny plastic
> coasters full of music that someone once cared about and now no one does. i
> don't like the idea of leaving a giant plastic footprint on the world.
>
> 2. they are low touch, high occupancy items. i buy a cd, i rip it in itunes,
> i shelve it. end of story. sure i might read the liner notes a time or two.
> but by and large it is literally sitting there taking up space for the next
> X number of years. eventually, we're back to point 1, above.
>
> 3. artwork, whatever. if i had a dollar for every cd i've bought with
> terrible artwork with no information inside, i could go on an itunes
> shopping spree. a nicely done PDF can be FAR better than a printed booklet,
> if it's done with some creative vision.
>
> 4. record stores. sorry, but i really consider these a massive waste of
> time. don't get me wrong i used to get a lot of pleasure out of spending
> hours of my time and many many dollars at amoeba (here in SF, truly one of
> the nations best record stores). BUT, more often than not, they wouldn't
> have exactly what i was looking for, so i'd end up blindly buying other
> stuff with mixed results. so that can be pretty frustrating. sure, i came
> upon some great finds, but NOTHING can compare with highly tuned
> recommendation algorithms, not even friends recommendations. while i'm not
> too convinced by amazons recommender, i think emusic has a great one, and of
> course netflix (yes, different medium, but same principle) is basically
> unrivalled. add to that the fact that i can literally be listening to the
> record in my home environment in a matter of seconds, that's very
> compelling.
>
> for me, digital is by far a superior music purchasing experience. i use
> itunes (rarely), amazon (occasionally), and emusic (like a crack addiction).
>
> of course, as an artist, the move to digital has hurt my overall sales, as
> more people use file transfer for music piracy. that's an undeniable fact.
> BUT, it's helped me as well:
>
> 1. digital sales are 100% trackable. this means that the numbers reported to
> soundscan are 100% accurate. no more guesswork as to how many onestops out
> there don't subscribe to soundscan, meaning i have no idea what my actual
> sales numbers are. i have a perfectly good relationship with my label, but
> nonetheless, i like seeing concrete data too.
>
> 2. no physical product means that there are no more physical product returns
> affecting my sales. this is huge for me, as i got seriously screwed when
> tower records went out of business and returned over 2500 copies of my
> second album. i'm almost, but not quite, out of that hole (several years
> later).
>
> 3. streaming revenue is making me more money now than physical sales on some
> of my records (the older ones in particular), which helps a lot. in a way,
> it's the perfect union of the above two points...how many broadcast radio
> stations really report accurate info? computer data allows for all of this
> to be 100% trackable, and helps my performing rights organization actually
> collect money and pay me!
>
> i like the fact that eno is being so confrontational with his statement.
> artists are all too often throwing their hands in the air and bemoaning the
> death of the music industry. i've done it myself! so the challenge is to
> come up with other ways of making it work.
>
> we're supposed to be creative people, right?
>
> - tyler / informatik
> - www.nymphomatik.com
> ===================
>
>



-- 
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LOL - not at all - just saying...=0ATuesday, January 26, 2010 10:29:30 PM=
=0AFrom: =0A"Jeff Shirkey" <jcshirke@verizon.net>=0ATo: =0A"" <Loopers-Deli=
ght@loopers-delight.com>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AWhen it's ready, someone should send=
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thanx Fabio for such an interesting article=0Ayou know ive been thinking ab=
out putting a new CD out but after reading this article well...=0ASo if rec=
orded CDs are out of style whats next? are we all becoming itunes downloade=
rs?i still think people do want to have a CDs playing in their car or HI-FI=
 system and look at a physical cover with art work etc.as much as people st=
ill want to go and check out a good live band so Mr. En seems a bit pessimi=
stic but i believe he might be right.=0Asince about the last 3 years ive no=
ticed that my own latin CDs have not been selling as well as beofre,though =
they keep selling quite well through downloads,even when we play live peopl=
e arent buying the physical CDs anymore,i suppose they just go the to websi=
te and download whatever they like.But i guess it isnt any different that g=
oing to a store writting down the specs of what you want to buy and looking=
 for a cheaper alternative througuh the net.=0AAlso it has become hard to g=
et people in the bars when you put any sort of cover charge at the door her=
e in southern germany,what a lot of agencies are doing here is organising "=
 Town Music Nights",that means htey hire about 12 bands in different bars a=
nd sell tickets for 10.-eur. to the public so they cvan bar hop,see 12 band=
s and feel they are getting their moneys worth.The problem is as a musician=
 you get paid shit and have to play no less than 4 hrs.provide your own P.A=
.etc.=0Ait also seems people are only willing to pay a regular fee at big f=
estivals or open airs for well know acts.=0ABut i still think that here in =
germany the live music scene is still pretty good compared to the U.S.,we s=
till get paid well,really good meals and all we can drink;-)=0AIt is kind o=
f a strange time for music...although there is everything out there for eve=
rybody it seems there isnt really a comunity movement or style like in the =
past decades.Maybe everybody is saturated with too much candy;-)=0A=0Acheer=
s=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com=
> schrieb am Di, 26.1.2010:=0A=0A> Von: Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com>=0A> =
Betreff: OT: Brian Eno about recorded music=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers=
-delight.com=0A> Datum: Dienstag, 26. Januar 2010, 6:42=0A> I got this by t=
he ambient list.=0A> Just to share with some Eno's addicted, as I am.=0A> H=
ope it doesn't fire up the stealing music debate...=0A> =A0=0A> fabio=0A> w=
ww.eterogeneo.com=0A> =A0=0A> =0A> "I think records were just a little bubb=
le through=0A> time and those who=0A> =0A> made a living from them for a wh=
ile were lucky. There is no=0A> reason=0A> why anyone should have made so m=
uch money from selling=0A> records=0A> except that everything was right for=
 this period of time. I=0A> always=0A> knew it would run out sooner or late=
r. It couldn't=0A> last, and now it's=0A> =0A> running out. I don't particu=
larly care that it is and=0A> like the way=0A> things are going. The record=
 age was just a blip. It was a=0A> bit like if=0A> you had a source of whal=
e blubber in the 1840s and it could=0A> be used=0A> as fuel. Before gas cam=
e along, if you traded in whale=0A> blubber, you=0A> =0A> were the richest =
man on Earth. Then gas came along and=0A> you'd be=0A> stuck with your whal=
e blubber. Sorry mate - history's=0A> moving along.=0A> Recorded music equa=
ls whale blubber. Eventually, something=0A> else will=0A> replace it." =0A>=
 =0A> =0A> (Brian Eno 2010-01-17 The Guardian)=0A> =0A> =0A=0A_____________=
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? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmail=
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Very good points Tyler!=0Aand certainly a much more positive way of seeing =
the current state of the music business.Actually i consider myself lucky th=
at i got to record CDs at a time when i didnt have to be with a label and d=
id everything independently and came out debt free without owing a single p=
enny to anyone.=0Athanx also for the emusic tip,i would also be interested =
in knowing which label you are working with.=0A=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/=
luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- tyler newman <tyler@batterycage.com> schrieb am D=
i, 26.1.2010:=0A=0A> Von: tyler newman <tyler@batterycage.com>=0A> Betreff:=
 Re: Brian Eno about recorded music=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=
.com=0A> Datum: Dienstag, 26. Januar 2010, 21:08=0A> hi-=0A> > =0A> > . But=
 there is something special there that is lost on=0A> the I-Pod generation.=
 I concur.=0A> > =0A> i'm not too sure that i agree with a great deal of th=
e=0A> sentiment expressed here, re: the fetishism of owning=0A> plastic/vin=
yl discs.=0A> =0A> i'm not the ipod generation, nor am i old enough to=0A> =
actually consider vinyl "the superior medium". i own a few=0A> thousand cd'=
s, accumulated over the past two decades more or=0A> less. i own zero vinyl=
 records. i have owned four ipods. i=0A> have not owned a cd player in a de=
cade. my primary source=0A> for listening to music is my computer and my ip=
od. i do not=0A> pirate music, ever.=0A> =0A> at the beginning of 2009, i d=
ecided to do an experiment,=0A> and switch all my music purchases to digita=
l only for the=0A> whole year. ok, i cheated a few times (if, and only if) =
a=0A> band i liked came through town; i'd probably buy their cd if=0A> i li=
ked their performance. that said, i will probably never=0A> purchase anothe=
r cd / physical product. here's a short=0A> list:=0A> =0A> 1. the environme=
ntal cost is far too high. someday i'll be=0A> dead. and where will all tha=
t plastic end up? all those=0A> bulky jewel cases and shiny plastic coaster=
s full of music=0A> that someone once cared about and now no one does. i do=
n't=0A> like the idea of leaving a giant plastic footprint on the=0A> world=
.=0A> =0A> 2. they are low touch, high occupancy items. i buy a cd, i=0A> r=
ip it in itunes, i shelve it. end of story. sure i might=0A> read the liner=
 notes a time or two. but by and large it is=0A> literally sitting there ta=
king up space for the next X=0A> number of years. eventually, we're back to=
 point 1, above.=0A> =0A> 3. artwork, whatever. if i had a dollar for every=
 cd i've=0A> bought with terrible artwork with no information inside, i=0A>=
 could go on an itunes shopping spree. a nicely done PDF can=0A> be FAR bet=
ter than a printed booklet, if it's done with some=0A> creative vision.=0A>=
 =0A> 4. record stores. sorry, but i really consider these a=0A> massive wa=
ste of time. don't get me wrong i used to get a=0A> lot of pleasure out of =
spending hours of my time and many=0A> many dollars at amoeba (here in SF, =
truly one of the nations=0A> best record stores). BUT, more often than not,=
 they wouldn't=0A> have exactly what i was looking for, so i'd end up blind=
ly=0A> buying other stuff with mixed results. so that can be pretty=0A> fru=
strating. sure, i came upon some great finds, but NOTHING=0A> can compare w=
ith highly tuned recommendation algorithms, not=0A> even friends recommenda=
tions. while i'm not too convinced by=0A> amazons recommender, i think emus=
ic has a great one, and of=0A> course netflix (yes, different medium, but s=
ame principle)=0A> is basically unrivalled. add to that the fact that i can=
=0A> literally be listening to the record in my home environment=0A> in a m=
atter of seconds, that's very compelling.=0A> =0A> for me, digital is by fa=
r a superior music purchasing=0A> experience. i use itunes (rarely), amazon=
 (occasionally),=0A> and emusic (like a crack addiction).=0A> =0A> of cours=
e, as an artist, the move to digital has hurt my=0A> overall sales, as more=
 people use file transfer for music=0A> piracy. that's an undeniable fact. =
BUT, it's helped me as=0A> well:=0A> =0A> 1. digital sales are 100% trackab=
le. this means that the=0A> numbers reported to soundscan are 100% accurate=
. no more=0A> guesswork as to how many onestops out there don't subscribe=
=0A> to soundscan, meaning i have no idea what my actual sales=0A> numbers =
are. i have a perfectly good relationship with my=0A> label, but nonetheles=
s, i like seeing concrete data too.=0A> =0A> 2. no physical product means t=
hat there are no more=0A> physical product returns affecting my sales. this=
 is huge=0A> for me, as i got seriously screwed when tower records went=0A>=
 out of business and returned over 2500 copies of my second=0A> album. i'm =
almost, but not quite, out of that hole (several=0A> years later).=0A> =0A>=
 3. streaming revenue is making me more money now than=0A> physical sales o=
n some of my records (the older ones in=0A> particular), which helps a lot.=
 in a way, it's the perfect=0A> union of the above two points...how many br=
oadcast radio=0A> stations really report accurate info? computer data allow=
s=0A> for all of this to be 100% trackable, and helps my=0A> performing rig=
hts organization actually collect money and=0A> pay me!=0A> =0A> i like the=
 fact that eno is being so confrontational with=0A> his statement. artists =
are all too often throwing their=0A> hands in the air and bemoaning the dea=
th of the music=0A> industry. i've done it myself! so the challenge is to c=
ome=0A> up with other ways of making it work.=0A> =0A> we're supposed to be=
 creative people, right?=0A> =0A> - tyler / informatik=0A> - www.nymphomati=
k.com=0A> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A> =0A=
> =0A=0A__________________________________________________=0ADo You Yahoo!?=
=0ASie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Sc=
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ALHAJI YAKUBU AHMED.
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Gosh,  Bob,

Thank you so much for such a sweet acknowledgement.

I can't exress how good you made me feel writing what you did.
 <blush>

  I feel privileged to be working with a family as wonderful,
creative and generous  in spirit as the one you have created at
Looperlative. 

 Thanks so very much. 

 Rick Walker 

********************************************

 I'm sure that most of you know how good of person Rick is,
but I wanted to  send out a huge public thank you for all that he has done
for me.  When I  first had the idea for the LP2, I met with Rick and he
sat with me for  hours  and we discussed every aspect of the device. 
Through out the past year,  Rick has really been a partner in this
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Festival.  He has helped to specify the  features.  The quantized replace
functions were conceived of and specified  by Rick.  The LP2 would not be
what it is without his help and I greatly  appreciate all the work that he
has put into making this launch be the  best  that it possibly can be. 
Basically, I just want to say thank you to a great friend, a great person,
 a  great artist, a great musician, and a great performer.  Rick, thank
you  for  all the many things that you do.  --- Bob Amstadt Looperlative
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Yeah, the payment sucks.
You get everything for free in the internet. That´s the problem! I have 
decided to upload only extracts, not
the full length tracks, for the internet. So people can
decide if it´s worth to download and pay for the full
track or just listen to a 2 minutes excerpt.
www.christojota.de
www.myspace.com/christojota

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:33 AM
Subject: OT: Brian Eno about recorded music and the current live music scene


thanx Fabio for such an interesting article
you know ive been thinking about putting a new CD out but after reading this 
article well...
So if recorded CDs are out of style whats next? are we all becoming itunes 
downloaders?i still think people do want to have a CDs playing in their car 
or HI-FI system and look at a physical cover with art work etc.as much as 
people still want to go and check out a good live band so Mr. En seems a bit 
pessimistic but i believe he might be right.
since about the last 3 years ive noticed that my own latin CDs have not been 
selling as well as beofre,though they keep selling quite well through 
downloads,even when we play live people arent buying the physical CDs 
anymore,i suppose they just go the to website and download whatever they 
like.But i guess it isnt any different that going to a store writting down 
the specs of what you want to buy and looking for a cheaper alternative 
througuh the net.
Also it has become hard to get people in the bars when you put any sort of 
cover charge at the door here in southern germany,what a lot of agencies are 
doing here is organising " Town Music Nights",that means htey hire about 12 
bands in different bars and sell tickets for 10.-eur. to the public so they 
cvan bar hop,see 12 bands and feel they are getting their moneys worth.The 
problem is as a musician you get paid shit and have to play no less than 4 
hrs.provide your own P.A.etc.
it also seems people are only willing to pay a regular fee at big festivals 
or open airs for well know acts.
But i still think that here in germany the live music scene is still pretty 
good compared to the U.S.,we still get paid well,really good meals and all 
we can drink;-)
It is kind of a strange time for music...although there is everything out 
there for everybody it seems there isnt really a comunity movement or style 
like in the past decades.Maybe everybody is saturated with too much candy;-)

cheers
www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> schrieb am Di, 26.1.2010:

> Von: Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com>
> Betreff: OT: Brian Eno about recorded music
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Datum: Dienstag, 26. Januar 2010, 6:42
> I got this by the ambient list.
> Just to share with some Eno's addicted, as I am.
> Hope it doesn't fire up the stealing music debate...
>
> fabio
> www.eterogeneo.com
>
>
> "I think records were just a little bubble through
> time and those who
>
> made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no
> reason
> why anyone should have made so much money from selling
> records
> except that everything was right for this period of time. I
> always
> knew it would run out sooner or later. It couldn't
> last, and now it's
>
> running out. I don't particularly care that it is and
> like the way
> things are going. The record age was just a blip. It was a
> bit like if
> you had a source of whale blubber in the 1840s and it could
> be used
> as fuel. Before gas came along, if you traded in whale
> blubber, you
>
> were the richest man on Earth. Then gas came along and
> you'd be
> stuck with your whale blubber. Sorry mate - history's
> moving along.
> Recorded music equals whale blubber. Eventually, something
> else will
> replace it."
>
>
> (Brian Eno 2010-01-17 The Guardian)
>
>

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Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp
to fatten up the sound?
Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist
plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live
work.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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An EBS Multidrive would do it.
On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp
> to fatten up the sound?
> Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist
> plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live
> work.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>

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Per,

  The Woolly Mammoth is pretty amazing....  :-)

http://zvex.com/mammoth.html

-Chuck Zwicky


>Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp
>to fatten up the sound?
>Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist
>plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live
>work.
>
>Greetings from Sweden
>
>Per Boysen
>www.boysen.se
>www.perboysen.com


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Hello

BBE or Behringer Sonic Maximizer. 


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An EBS Multidrive would do it.
On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp
> to fatten up the sound?
> Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist
> plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live
> work.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>



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... a compressor? the swedes EBS have a stompbox, bassists use to like it.

2010/1/27 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp
> to fatten up the sound?
> Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist
> plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live
> work.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>


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electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp<br>
to fatten up the sound?<br>
Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist<br>
plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live<br>
work.<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
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m">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
<br>

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Electro Harmonix Knockout


it's just a couple of fixed filters, so doesn't
seem much on paper,
but you need to try it.
Ultra-dub, with a crackle on top if you want it.

...but the question I'd be asking is why it can't sound massive
just going straight to the amp.


andy


Per Boysen wrote:
> Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp
> to fatten up the sound?
> Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist
> plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live
> work.
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> 
> 

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Malekko Assmaster is pretty unbelievable as is the wooly mammoth
(build it yourself, easy and pretty available schematic) or an old
green russian big muff.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:47 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Electro Harmonix Knockout
>
>
> it's just a couple of fixed filters, so doesn't
> seem much on paper,
> but you need to try it.
> Ultra-dub, with a crackle on top if you want it.
>
> ...but the question I'd be asking is why it can't sound massive
> just going straight to the amp.
>
>
> andy
>
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> Per Boysen wrote:
>>
>> Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp
>> to fatten up the sound?
>> Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist
>> plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live
>> work.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>>
>>
>
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Try the SWR interstellar overdrive tube preamp with integrated 1watt amp overdrive. Best bass overdrive tone. If not Buddha makes a tube pedal but I never tried it.
Antony

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On Jan 27, 2010, at 4:47 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

Electro Harmonix Knockout


it's just a couple of fixed filters, so doesn't
seem much on paper,
but you need to try it.
Ultra-dub, with a crackle on top if you want it.

...but the question I'd be asking is why it can't sound massive
just going straight to the amp.


andy


Per Boysen wrote:
Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp
to fatten up the sound?
Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist
plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live
work.
Greetings from Sweden
Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




      

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I wouldn't recommend such thievery...

CZ

>Malekko Assmaster is pretty unbelievable as is the wooly mammoth
>(build it yourself, easy and pretty available schematic) or an old
>green russian big muff.

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It's not thiervery, only PCB layouts can be copyrighted and at the end
of the day most modern boutique pedals are simply clones with tweaks,
case in point the Malekko pedal I recommended which is a clone of the
Brassmaster but it would be way harder to build and if you get a
Germainium one source good trannys could be a pain.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I wouldn't recommend such thievery...
>
> CZ
>
>> Malekko Assmaster is pretty unbelievable as is the wooly mammoth
>> (build it yourself, easy and pretty available schematic) or an old
>> green russian big muff.
>
> --
>
> ...
> http://www.zmix.net
>
> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
>
>

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Hi Per,

What style are you going for?

Dub, Rock, Slap?
Do you want to keep the original tone and just beef it up a bit or go for
something completely wild like a synth overdriven tone?

I'm using an ME-50B for most of my live gigs and it gives lots of options.

Andre

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On Wed, January 27, 2010 10:26 am, Per Boysen wrote:
> Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp
> to fatten up the sound?
> Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist
> plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live
> work.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>



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It does infringe upon intellectual property, however, and as a 
musician you should respect that.

-Chuck Zwicky

>It's not thiervery, only PCB layouts can be copyrighted and at the end
>of the day most modern boutique pedals are simply clones with tweaks,
>case in point the Malekko pedal I recommended which is a clone of the
>Brassmaster but it would be way harder to build and if you get a
>Germainium one source good trannys could be a pain.
>
>On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Charles Zwicky 
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>>  I wouldn't recommend such thievery...
>>
>>  CZ
>>
>>>  Malekko Assmaster is pretty unbelievable as is the wooly mammoth
>>>  (build it yourself, easy and pretty available schematic) or an old
>>>  green russian big muff.
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=A0
What do you mean by "fat tone", Per?=A0 Can you give an example of someone'=
s tone that you're trying to emulate?
=A0
An eq or a pre-amp w/tone controls can help things.
=A0
But, yeah, distortion is good with a b'zillion options.=A0 My newest trick =
is to use two two-band distortions - one with the treble at 100% and the ba=
ss at 0% with the other pedal set for the opposite.=A0 I've also been lusti=
ng after a friend's Electo-Harmonix Octave Multiplexer.
=A0
Then there's the bass synth way - a nice square wave makes things good 'n' =
groovey.=A0 And there's the Bill Laswell trick and run an envelope filter b=
ut set threshold so the gate doesn't open which gives a very dub sound.
=A0

ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

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Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp
to fatten up the sound?
Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist
plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live
work.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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<DIV>What do you mean by "fat tone", Per?&nbsp; Can you give an example of =
someone's tone that you're trying to emulate?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>An eq or a pre-amp w/tone controls can help things.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>But, yeah, distortion is good with a b'zillion options.&nbsp; My newes=
t trick is to use two two-band distortions - one with the treble at 100% an=
d the bass at 0% with the other pedal set for the opposite.&nbsp; I've also=
 been lusting after a friend's Electo-Harmonix Octave Multiplexer.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Then there's the bass synth way - a nice square wave makes things good=
 'n' groovey.&nbsp; And there's the Bill Laswell trick and run an envelope =
filter but set threshold so the gate doesn't open which gives a very dub so=
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<DIV><BR>ted.<BR>Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog<BR><BR=
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Tech21 VT Bass

Remarkable emulator, gets the SVT grind through the B-15 wooliness and lots of great stuff in between.
I've seen dyed-in-the-wool SVT addicts endorse this pedal.
I'm working on getting one myself.

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> What do you mean by "fat tone", Per?=C2=A0 Can you give an example of som=
eone's tone that you're trying to emulate?

Jah Wobble's tone is a good example.

> Then there's the bass synth way - a nice square wave makes things good 'n=
' groovey.=C2=A0 And there's the Bill Laswell trick and run an envelope fil=
ter but set threshold so the gate doesn't open which gives a very dub sound=
.
>

Yep, I use that trick when mixing. Did it on this bassist as well in
the studio. Great trick! :-) Would be nice to find a stomp box that
does it for her live.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
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hi-

> Very good points Tyler!
> and certainly a much more positive way of seeing the current state  
> of the music business.Actually i consider myself lucky that i got to  
> record CDs at a time when i didnt have to be with a label and did  
> everything independently and came out debt free without owing a  
> single penny to anyone.
> thanx also for the emusic tip,i would also be interested in knowing  
> which label you are working with.

hehe, well believe me, there are plenty of times when i get pretty  
depressed about the state of things. every release i've done for the  
past 5 years (and i'm sure this has happened to most everyone on this  
list) is on the russian pirate sites in a matter of hours....which is  
a drag. but i do try to stay positive. after all, when the technology  
tide turns, you'd better keep up or plan to be washed away.

and you should definitely check out emusic. it's like crack, i'm  
telling you. i'm on the "50 downloads per month for 20$" plan, and  
believe me, i'm usually twitching towards the end of the month,  
waiting for the refill. BUT, i tell myself that it's better to wait so  
that i can spend more time letting last months purchases make an  
impact. i try to keep my consumption to things that will get listened  
to again and again, though obviously not every record can sink it's  
teeth that deep. i'm pretty critical about music.

my labels are metropolis records (US) and dependent records (EU). both  
are excellent labels to work with, and i have no complaints.

- tyler / informatik
- www.nymphomatik.com
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state of the music business.Actually i consider myself lucky that i got =
to record CDs at a time when i didnt have to be with a label and did =
everything independently and came out debt free without owing a single =
penny to anyone.<br>thanx also for the emusic tip,i would also be =
interested in knowing which label you are working =
with.<br></div></span></blockquote></div><br><div>hehe, well believe me, =
there are plenty of times when i get pretty depressed about the state of =
things. every release i've done for the past 5 years (and i'm sure this =
has happened to most everyone on this list) is on the russian pirate =
sites in a matter of hours....which is a drag. but i do try to stay =
positive. after all, when the technology tide turns, you'd better keep =
up or plan to be washed away.</div><div><br></div><div>and you should =
definitely check out emusic. it's like crack, i'm telling you. i'm on =
the "50 downloads per month for 20$" plan, and believe me, i'm usually =
twitching towards the end of the month, waiting for the refill. BUT, i =
tell myself that it's better to wait so that i can spend more time =
letting last months purchases make an impact. i try to keep my =
consumption to things that will get listened to again and again, though =
obviously not every record can sink it's teeth that deep. i'm pretty =
critical about music.</div><div><br></div><div>my labels are metropolis =
records (US) and dependent records (EU). both are excellent labels to =
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You might consider the Electro Harmonix Microsynth. You can add a square wave with that plus octave and suboctave if you want, and just set the threshhold high so the filter sweep isn't triggered. Great effect in any case! 

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What do you mean by "fat tone", Per? Can you give an example of someone's tone that you're trying to emulate? 

An eq or a pre-amp w/tone controls can help things. 

But, yeah, distortion is good with a b'zillion options. My newest trick is to use two two-band distortions - one with the treble at 100% and the bass at 0% with the other pedal set for the opposite. I've also been lusting after a friend's Electo-Harmonix Octave Multiplexer. 

Then there's the bass synth way - a nice square wave makes things good 'n' groovey. And there's the Bill Laswell trick and run an envelope filter but set threshold so the gate doesn't open which gives a very dub sound. 


ted. 
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From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> 
Subject: Bass players - what's a good stomp pedal for FAT tone? 
To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> 
Received: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 6:26 AM 


Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp 
to fatten up the sound? 
Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist 
plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live 
work. 

Greetings from Sweden 

Per Boysen 
www.boysen.se 
www.perboysen.com 








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I prefer the sound of vinyl or in some cases cassette tapes to CD's,
but IMO mp3's sound a hell of a lot better than CD's, at least
properly encoded ones with high bitrates. A 320k mp3 file will have a
heck of a lot more "oomph" and frequency response than a CD... and
lets not forget that physical formats are easily ruined, or wear out
in time. I love analog sound, but I havent bought a cd in years... and
I used to be the kinda guy that spent paychecks on them. It's a matter
of quality and simplicity. There's really no reason to use cd's
anymore and I'm glad they are going extinct because it's always been
ridiculous how overpriced they are anyway.



On 1/26/10, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> I do think that we are going to see a rapid dwindling of physical media for
> recordings.
> It's inevitable given the iPod generations' predilection for instant access
> to mostly free music.
>
> At the same time,   I'm with Mark Francombe about the importance in my life
> of  the hundreds of hours I've spent all over the world
> in record and CD shops...........browsing over live gig merch tables,
> talking about music with other
> music lovers in, gasp,  real time and not on chat;    Handing a physical
> copy of a CD to someone who I'm trying
> introduce a new artist to......watching them look at the artwork as they
> experience the music.
>
> I love artwork (and even have been purchasing Vinyl which has trebled in
> volume at the wonderful local indie all vinyl record
> store, Meta Music and the large indie CD/Vinyl record store Streetlight
> Records in Santa Cruz where I live.
> (also,  as a side note:     many of the oldest of the baby boomers are
> beginning to pass away now and  there are incredible
> Vinyl music collections coming into Logos Books and Records in the past
> couple of years.     Record players
> are also seeing a huge boon in sales.  they are for sale in at least a half
> a dozen locations on our own Pacific Garden Mall.
>
> As a self proclaimed music fetishist,   I love taking out CD artwork and
> reading it and perusing it.
> I love reading album liner notes and looking at the cover art.     Hell, I
> love the feel of taking a vinyl record out of it's sleeve.
>
> Right now I'm really enjoying listening to Matt Davignon's excellent new
> release "Living Things" in glorious 16 bit/44k CD quality
> and enjoying the hell out of his really beautiful zen
> graphics...............also I'm really digging that I paid for it to support
> his wonderful artistry.
>
> This may make me a dinosaur but there is an aesthetic enhancement to me and
> makes the entire experience more pleasing.
> I just jammed with Peter Hayes of BRMC down at NAMM and loving his musical
> sensibility but being unfamiliar with his
> work,  I delighted in taking a couple of days to track down three of his CDs
> in used condition and going to support
> my local independent record store (which hires several extremely good indie
> musicians by the way) and buy the remaining
> one at full pop.
>
> I just wouldn't get the same kind of joy out of downloading even a high
> fidelity FLAC recording for my iTunes on my laptops
> (and,  shudder,  I still don't own an MP3 player).
>
> And we haven't even talked about the sound yet.
>
> There is something really enjoyable to me about the sound of Vinyl,  the
> sound of CDs,  hell,    even the sound of old cassettes
> (whose only copies of roots reggae I have on that medium).
>
> It's just a different experience.   Perhaps not better, but certainly
> enjoyable.
>
> So,  I"m truly hoping that the vinyl record, the CD,  the audio cassette,
> the reel to reel tape recorder and the wire and cylinder recordings
> to disappear for good.
>
>
>

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On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:48 AM, tyler newman wrote:
>
>
> my labels are metropolis records (US) and dependent records (EU).  
> both are excellent labels to work with, and i have no complaints.

And, both of those labels still make and sell CDs, and some vinyl,  
too. (Ooops!)  Hee hee!  Sorry. I just couldn't resist that jab in  
the ribs. :-)

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland, OR

PS- BTW, Informatik rocks!  One tune had a bass line that reminded me  
very much of very early and some later Revco. Good!
But, I digress....

>
> - tyler / informatik
> - www.nymphomatik.com
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i have to agree w/ andy. thee most powerful live sound i have ever heard-bass wise-is straight into the amp!
i have found that once you plug into something else(anything) the sound thins out on some level-mids or low mids, etc.
the closer you get the pickup of the bass to the preamp-there it is.
IMO


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>From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>Sent: Jan 27, 2010 10:47 AM
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: Re: Bass players - what's a good stomp pedal for FAT tone?
>
>Electro Harmonix Knockout
>
>
>it's just a couple of fixed filters, so doesn't
>seem much on paper,
>but you need to try it.
>Ultra-dub, with a crackle on top if you want it.
>
>...but the question I'd be asking is why it can't sound massive
>just going straight to the amp.
>
>
>andy
>
>
>Per Boysen wrote:
>> Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp
>> to fatten up the sound?
>> Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist
>> plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live
>> work.
>> 
>> Greetings from Sweden
>> 
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>> 
>> 
>

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That was an excellent and eye opening post, Tyler.
thanks for taking the time to elucidate your views for us.

I have been firmly in the opposite camp that you are in , but it made me
pause and
really reconsider my own position and, certainly,  soften my own prejudice
against the iPod phenomena.

One thing you said made me pause and want to reply, however.

You said:
"....... more often than
not, they wouldn't have exactly what i was looking for, so i'd end up
blindly buying other stuff with mixed results. so that can be pretty
frustrating. sure, i came upon some great finds, but NOTHING can
compare with highly tuned recommendation algorithms, not even friends
recommendations."

I have to agree to disagree with you on this point and say that some of
the very best (and most surprising) entries to my own musical life
have come , specifically from NOT finding things in record stores and
randomly walking through sections of music.     I've even had luck picking
out CDs by artwork alone or by chance conversations with someone browsing
in the same section as me.    This was almost my entire
method for falling in love with abstract electronic and getting into the
genre.
I did purchase things that I didn't like and had to sell them back but the
return, aesthetically for my chance taking was returned ten fold by what I
stumbled upon that then really influenced my own artistry.

I also have a dear friend, John Connell (who has played the looping
festival twice), who is the buyer for the world music, electronica, metal,
industrial and goth sections at our Streetlight Records who has
contributed incredibly to my musical life.

John's tastes and mine are frequently diametrically opposed.    But he is
a very, very intelligent, sensitive and dedicated fan of music in many
forms and I've discovered that out of 10 recommendations I will return 9
of them (to get 75% of my purchase price back) and then 10th one
frequently will change my life musically.   It'll be something I'd never
try on my own like that shirt someone buys for you for your birthday that
you'd never buy but that becomes your favorite because it lets you see
yourself in a different way.....one that expands you.

What an inexpensive and terrible percentage of connection, eh?      But to
me,  the things he's turned me onto in my life are things I would have
never discovered on my own and wouldn't have been served up to me on a
platter on Pandora.

Part of my beef with the way things are currently,  is exactly that we can
live in micro niche's musically because of the ways that Amazon, Ebay,
Pandor and other entities keep recommending things that are like what we
have liked in the past.  I'm all for resonance, but:

I remember when underground FM radio first started in the hippy days in
Northern California
that you could listen to a DJ play Odetta,  the Doors,   Joni Mitchell and
then Ravi Shankar
on the same program.   There was a sense that you could discover new
worlds, musically at that time.

For this reason,   Bill Graham would specifically book the Duke Ellington
Orchestra and, say, Jimi Hendrix on the same bill because he wanted to
educate the young hippy audiences that he
booked for.     I saw Gordon Lightfoot, Canned Heat and some local SF
psychedelic band at the Fillmore on my 16th birthday.

Lately,  I find that the kids that I teach know only specific genres of
music and frequently , aren't interested in other kinds of music at all.  
  This makes for some shredding
speed metal and punk drummers, I'll have to admit, but there seems to be a
mono fixated quality to their listening and playing habits.

Additionally,  they don't have any concept of longer forms of music.  
They never listen to an artist's albums because they are always purchasing
single songs on iTunes.   I frequently get,
"Jimi Hendrix?    What songs does he do?"    I have to admit that I can't
remember all the song
titles on the wonderful Electric Ladyland double album but try to convince
them that they are missing something if they are only playing his
'greatest hits' and not experience how he, as an artist created this
beautiful long form musical work.     Listen to single tracks out of order
from THE side of Abbey Road by the Beatles and you've missed something
important in my own
opinion.

I guess this is just a bloated paean to diversity and chance in our
musical adventures.

I certainly  don't want to become the embittered old man that I used to
hate as a very young angry man...............you know:   "we had to walk
through snow and broken glass barefoot to school when I was a boy and WE
LIKE IT!!!"

I want to keep an open mind about the way things are going,  but I do miss
a bit of the diversity that the new ways of purchasing music, digitally
seem to be missing.

Educate me, however,  Tyler,   you've got a really good head on your
shoulders!

yours,  Rick

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Hello Everyone, this is my first post so you will all have to forgive me if
I do or say something wrong!

Moving on, I have recently upgraded from a DigiTech Jamman to a Boss RC-50.
I have also acquired an Akai MPC 2500 which I would like to sync to the
RC-50 via midi.  I tried doing it this morning, and although both devices
were set to transmit (MPC) and receive (RC50) midi data, the RC-50 would not
recognize anything.  I wouldn't sync to the tempo of the MPC, and it almost
seemed like it wasn't receiving any information at all.  The MPC has 4 Midi
outs and perhaps the one I was using is not working, or it could be the
cable, I will try weeding the things out later tonight.

My question is, do any of you run a similar set up and have you encountered
the same problem?  I have read in various places the the RC-50 doesn't
respond to midi clock from another device very well, but I am hesitant to
trust the information.  In any case, any help would be amazing.  I will also
try running the RC-50 as the master, but ideally, I want it the other way
around.

Thanks to all of you in advance and I hope to hear from you soon!


-- 
Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome

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Well the RC-50 usually doesn't want to sync to anything.  If you use it as a master it syncs fine.

t
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Oldfolks Home Music 
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:46 PM
  Subject: Boss RC-50 sync issues


  Hello Everyone, this is my first post so you will all have to forgive me if I do or say something wrong!  

  Moving on, I have recently upgraded from a DigiTech Jamman to a Boss RC-50.  I have also acquired an Akai MPC 2500 which I would like to sync to the RC-50 via midi.  I tried doing it this morning, and although both devices were set to transmit (MPC) and receive (RC50) midi data, the RC-50 would not recognize anything.  I wouldn't sync to the tempo of the MPC, and it almost seemed like it wasn't receiving any information at all.  The MPC has 4 Midi outs and perhaps the one I was using is not working, or it could be the cable, I will try weeding the things out later tonight.

  My question is, do any of you run a similar set up and have you encountered the same problem?  I have read in various places the the RC-50 doesn't respond to midi clock from another device very well, but I am hesitant to trust the information.  In any case, any help would be amazing.  I will also try running the RC-50 as the master, but ideally, I want it the other way around.  

  Thanks to all of you in advance and I hope to hear from you soon!


  -- 
  Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
  Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
  http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
  http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome


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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Well the RC-50 usually doesn't want to sync to 
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Everyone, this is my first post so you will all have to 
  forgive me if I do or say something wrong!&nbsp; <BR><BR>Moving on, I have 
  recently upgraded from a DigiTech Jamman to a Boss RC-50.&nbsp; I have also 
  acquired an Akai MPC 2500 which I would like to sync to the RC-50 via 
  midi.&nbsp; I tried doing it this morning, and although both devices were set 
  to transmit (MPC) and receive (RC50) midi data, the RC-50 would not recognize 
  anything.&nbsp; I wouldn't sync to the tempo of the MPC, and it almost seemed 
  like it wasn't receiving any information at all.&nbsp; The MPC has 4 Midi outs 
  and perhaps the one I was using is not working, or it could be the cable, I 
  will try weeding the things out later tonight.<BR><BR>My question is, do any 
  of you run a similar set up and have you encountered the same problem?&nbsp; I 
  have read in various places the the RC-50 doesn't respond to midi clock from 
  another device very well, but I am hesitant to trust the information.&nbsp; In 
  any case, any help would be amazing.&nbsp; I will also try running the RC-50 
  as the master, but ideally, I want it the other way around.&nbsp; 
  <BR><BR>Thanks to all of you in advance and I hope to hear from you 
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First I'd start with a a chocolate milk shake, a big juicy slice of  
prime rib, and a baked potato with plenty of butter and sour  
cream ,and a big slice of chocolate cream pie for desert...oh wait,   
were you talking about getting a fat sound for bass or a fat bass  
player????
  since there are many ways of getting a Fat sound and just as many  
opinions about how to get it, I'd suggest something that gives you a  
few choices, either by using a good compressor/limiter which I don't  
think any one has mentioned, an octaver, which my excellent funk  
playing friend uses to slam the low end, both of these effects are  
rendered very well the the line 6 M-9 which is small yet very powerful  
and simple to operate, That way you could have a limiter, an octaver  
and a moog style filter all running at once, or a parametric eq a sub  
octave fuzz and a noise gate. Nice little looper built in as well. no  
they aren't paying me to say this... I just like how simple and pedal  
like the stuff is to program and the sounds range from very good to  
amazing.
Bill

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Electric LadyLand = favorite album of all time




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That was an excellent and eye opening post, Tyler.
thanks for taking the time to elucidate your views for us.

I have been firmly in the opposite camp that you are in , but it made me
pause and
really reconsider my own position and, certainly,  soften my own prejudice
against the iPod phenomena.

One thing you said made me pause and want to reply, however.

You said:
"....... more often than
not, they wouldn't have exactly what i was looking for, so i'd end up
blindly buying other stuff with mixed results. so that can be pretty
frustrating. sure, i came upon some great finds, but NOTHING can
compare with highly tuned recommendation algorithms, not even friends
recommendations."

I have to agree to disagree with you on this point and say that some of
the very best (and most surprising) entries to my own musical life
have come , specifically from NOT finding things in record stores and
randomly walking through sections of music.     I've even had luck picking
out CDs by artwork alone or by chance conversations with someone browsing
in the same section as me.    This was almost my entire
method for falling in love with abstract electronic and getting into the
genre.
I did purchase things that I didn't like and had to sell them back but the
return, aesthetically for my chance taking was returned ten fold by what I
stumbled upon that then really influenced my own artistry.

I also have a dear friend, John Connell (who has played the looping
festival twice), who is the buyer for the world music, electronica, metal,
industrial and goth sections at our Streetlight Records who has
contributed incredibly to my musical life.

John's tastes and mine are frequently diametrically opposed.    But he is
a very, very intelligent, sensitive and dedicated fan of music in many
forms and I've discovered that out of 10 recommendations I will return 9
of them (to get 75% of my purchase price back) and then 10th one
frequently will change my life musically.   It'll be something I'd never
try on my own like that shirt someone buys for you for your birthday that
you'd never buy but that becomes your favorite because it lets you see
yourself in a different way.....one that expands you.

What an inexpensive and terrible percentage of connection, eh?      But to
me,  the things he's turned me onto in my life are things I would have
never discovered on my own and wouldn't have been served up to me on a
platter on Pandora.

Part of my beef with the way things are currently,  is exactly that we can
live in micro niche's musically because of the ways that Amazon, Ebay,
Pandor and other entities keep recommending things that are like what we
have liked in the past.  I'm all for resonance, but:

I remember when underground FM radio first started in the hippy days in
Northern California
that you could listen to a DJ play Odetta,  the Doors,   Joni Mitchell and
then Ravi Shankar
on the same program.   There was a sense that you could discover new
worlds, musically at that time.

For this reason,   Bill Graham would specifically book the Duke Ellington
Orchestra and, say, Jimi Hendrix on the same bill because he wanted to
educate the young hippy audiences that he
booked for.     I saw Gordon Lightfoot, Canned Heat and some local SF
psychedelic band at the Fillmore on my 16th birthday.

Lately,  I find that the kids that I teach know only specific genres of
music and frequently , aren't interested in other kinds of music at all.  
  This makes for some shredding
speed metal and punk drummers, I'll have to admit, but there seems to be a
mono fixated quality to their listening and playing habits.

Additionally,  they don't have any concept of longer forms of music.  
They never listen to an artist's albums because they are always purchasing
single songs on iTunes.   I frequently get,
"Jimi Hendrix?    What songs does he do?"    I have to admit that I can't
remember all the song
titles on the wonderful Electric Ladyland double album but try to convince
them that they are missing something if they are only playing his
'greatest hits' and not experience how he, as an artist created this
beautiful long form musical work.     Listen to single tracks out of order
from THE side of Abbey Road by the Beatles and you've missed something
important in my own
opinion.

I guess this is just a bloated paean to diversity and chance in our
musical adventures.

I certainly  don't want to become the embittered old man that I used to
hate as a very young angry man...............you know:   "we had to walk
through snow and broken glass barefoot to school when I was a boy and WE
LIKE IT!!!"

I want to keep an open mind about the way things are going,  but I do miss
a bit of the diversity that the new ways of purchasing music, digitally
seem to be missing.

Educate me, however,  Tyler,   you've got a really good head on your
shoulders!

yours,  Rick


      
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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Electric LadyLand = favorite album of all time<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> "looppool@cruzio.com" &lt;looppool@cruzio.com&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wed, January 27, 2010 5:32:33 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Brian Eno about recorded music<br></font><br>
That was an excellent and eye opening post, Tyler.<br>thanks for taking the time to elucidate your views for us.<br><br>I have been firmly in the opposite camp that you are in , but it made me<br>pause and<br>really reconsider my own position and, certainly,&nbsp; soften my own prejudice<br>against the iPod phenomena.<br><br>One thing you said made me pause and want to reply, however.<br><br>You said:<br>"....... more often than<br>not, they wouldn't have exactly what i was looking for, so i'd end up<br>blindly buying other stuff with mixed results. so that can be pretty<br>frustrating. sure, i came upon some great finds, but NOTHING can<br>compare with highly tuned recommendation algorithms, not even friends<br>recommendations."<br><br>I have to agree to disagree with you on this point and say that some of<br>the very best (and most surprising) entries to my own musical life<br>have come , specifically from NOT finding things in record stores
 and<br>randomly walking through sections of music.&nbsp; &nbsp;  I've even had luck picking<br>out CDs by artwork alone or by chance conversations with someone browsing<br>in the same section as me.&nbsp; &nbsp; This was almost my entire<br>method for falling in love with abstract electronic and getting into the<br>genre.<br>I did purchase things that I didn't like and had to sell them back but the<br>return, aesthetically for my chance taking was returned ten fold by what I<br>stumbled upon that then really influenced my own artistry.<br><br>I also have a dear friend, John Connell (who has played the looping<br>festival twice), who is the buyer for the world music, electronica, metal,<br>industrial and goth sections at our Streetlight Records who has<br>contributed incredibly to my musical life.<br><br>John's tastes and mine are frequently diametrically opposed.&nbsp; &nbsp; But he is<br>a very, very intelligent, sensitive and dedicated fan of music in
 many<br>forms and I've discovered that out of 10 recommendations I will return 9<br>of them (to get 75% of my purchase price back) and then 10th one<br>frequently will change my life musically.&nbsp;  It'll be something I'd never<br>try on my own like that shirt someone buys for you for your birthday that<br>you'd never buy but that becomes your favorite because it lets you see<br>yourself in a different way.....one that expands you.<br><br>What an inexpensive and terrible percentage of connection, eh?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; But to<br>me,&nbsp; the things he's turned me onto in my life are things I would have<br>never discovered on my own and wouldn't have been served up to me on a<br>platter on Pandora.<br><br>Part of my beef with the way things are currently,&nbsp; is exactly that we can<br>live in micro niche's musically because of the ways that Amazon, Ebay,<br>Pandor and other entities keep recommending things that are like what we<br>have liked in
 the past.&nbsp; I'm all for resonance, but:<br><br>I remember when underground FM radio first started in the hippy days in<br>Northern California<br>that you could listen to a DJ play Odetta,&nbsp; the Doors,&nbsp;  Joni Mitchell and<br>then Ravi Shankar<br>on the same program.&nbsp;  There was a sense that you could discover new<br>worlds, musically at that time.<br><br>For this reason,&nbsp;  Bill Graham would specifically book the Duke Ellington<br>Orchestra and, say, Jimi Hendrix on the same bill because he wanted to<br>educate the young hippy audiences that he<br>booked for.&nbsp; &nbsp;  I saw Gordon Lightfoot, Canned Heat and some local SF<br>psychedelic band at the Fillmore on my 16th birthday.<br><br>Lately,&nbsp; I find that the kids that I teach know only specific genres of<br>music and frequently , aren't interested in other kinds of music at all.&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; This makes for some shredding<br>speed metal and punk drummers, I'll have to
 admit, but there seems to be a<br>mono fixated quality to their listening and playing habits.<br><br>Additionally,&nbsp; they don't have any concept of longer forms of music.&nbsp; <br>They never listen to an artist's albums because they are always purchasing<br>single songs on iTunes.&nbsp;  I frequently get,<br>"Jimi Hendrix?&nbsp; &nbsp; What songs does he do?"&nbsp; &nbsp; I have to admit that I can't<br>remember all the song<br>titles on the wonderful Electric Ladyland double album but try to convince<br>them that they are missing something if they are only playing his<br>'greatest hits' and not experience how he, as an artist created this<br>beautiful long form musical work.&nbsp; &nbsp;  Listen to single tracks out of order<br>from THE side of Abbey Road by the Beatles and you've missed something<br>important in my own<br>opinion.<br><br>I guess this is just a bloated paean to diversity and chance in our<br>musical adventures.<br><br>I
 certainly&nbsp; don't want to become the embittered old man that I used to<br>hate as a very young angry man...............you know:&nbsp;  "we had to walk<br>through snow and broken glass barefoot to school when I was a boy and WE<br>LIKE IT!!!"<br><br>I want to keep an open mind about the way things are going,&nbsp; but I do miss<br>a bit of the diversity that the new ways of purchasing music, digitally<br>seem to be missing.<br><br>Educate me, however,&nbsp; Tyler,&nbsp;  you've got a really good head on your<br>shoulders!<br><br>yours,&nbsp; Rick<br><br></div></div>
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Thats so annoying because it says it does in the manual!  I have never been
lied to so blatantly before by a users guide!

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:

>  Well the RC-50 usually doesn't want to sync to anything.  If you use it
> as a master it syncs fine.
>
> t
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Oldfolks Home Music <oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com>
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:46 PM
> *Subject:* Boss RC-50 sync issues
>
> Hello Everyone, this is my first post so you will all have to forgive me if
> I do or say something wrong!
>
> Moving on, I have recently upgraded from a DigiTech Jamman to a Boss
> RC-50.  I have also acquired an Akai MPC 2500 which I would like to sync to
> the RC-50 via midi.  I tried doing it this morning, and although both
> devices were set to transmit (MPC) and receive (RC50) midi data, the RC-50
> would not recognize anything.  I wouldn't sync to the tempo of the MPC, and
> it almost seemed like it wasn't receiving any information at all.  The MPC
> has 4 Midi outs and perhaps the one I was using is not working, or it could
> be the cable, I will try weeding the things out later tonight.
>
> My question is, do any of you run a similar set up and have you encountered
> the same problem?  I have read in various places the the RC-50 doesn't
> respond to midi clock from another device very well, but I am hesitant to
> trust the information.  In any case, any help would be amazing.  I will also
> try running the RC-50 as the master, but ideally, I want it the other way
> around.
>
> Thanks to all of you in advance and I hope to hear from you soon!
>
>
> --
> Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
> Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
> http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
> http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome
>
>


-- 
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Thats so annoying because it says it does in the manual!=A0 I have never be=
en lied to so blatantly before by a users guide!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Toby G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:carpet8@mac.com">carpet8@mac.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">





<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Well the RC-50 usually doesn&#39;t wan=
t to sync to=20
anything.=A0 If you use it as a master it syncs fine.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div><font color=3D"#888888=
">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">t</font></div></font><div><div></div><=
div class=3D"h5">
<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left: 5px=
; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; fo=
nt-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: no=
rmal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-st=
retch: normal; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: paddin=
g; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">
<b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:oldfolkshomemusic=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Oldfolks Home Music</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@lo=
opers-delight.com" href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>=20
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 27, 2010 =
2:46=20
  PM</div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Boss RC-50 sync issues</d=
iv>

  <div><br></div>Hello Everyone, this is my first post so you will all have=
 to=20
  forgive me if I do or say something wrong!=A0 <br><br>Moving on, I have=
=20
  recently upgraded from a DigiTech Jamman to a Boss RC-50.=A0 I have also=
=20
  acquired an Akai MPC 2500 which I would like to sync to the RC-50 via=20
  midi.=A0 I tried doing it this morning, and although both devices were se=
t=20
  to transmit (MPC) and receive (RC50) midi data, the RC-50 would not recog=
nize=20
  anything.=A0 I wouldn&#39;t sync to the tempo of the MPC, and it almost s=
eemed=20
  like it wasn&#39;t receiving any information at all.=A0 The MPC has 4 Mid=
i outs=20
  and perhaps the one I was using is not working, or it could be the cable,=
 I=20
  will try weeding the things out later tonight.<br><br>My question is, do =
any=20
  of you run a similar set up and have you encountered the same problem?=A0=
 I=20
  have read in various places the the RC-50 doesn&#39;t respond to midi clo=
ck from=20
  another device very well, but I am hesitant to trust the information.=A0 =
In=20
  any case, any help would be amazing.=A0 I will also try running the RC-50=
=20
  as the master, but ideally, I want it the other way around.=A0=20
  <br><br>Thanks to all of you in advance and I hope to hear from you=20
  soon!<br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar<br>Oldfolks H=
ome /=20
  Solomon Records Music<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemu=
sic" target=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic</a><br><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar<b=
r>Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.co=
m/oldfolkshomemusic">http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic</a><br><a hre=
f=3D"http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome">http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfol=
kshome</a><br>
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Subject: Re: Bass players - what's a good stomp pedal for FAT tone?
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Sounds like you are going for the dubby sound.
Flat wounds will help a lot.
Even more so than the pedal.
Get it right as close to the source as possible.
A good  player and instrument will get you closer to that sound than a pedal.

Here's a good read.


http://www.ehow.com/how_4781618_play-bass-like-jah-wobble.html

Let me know when it's finished.
Would love to hear it.

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On Wed, January 27, 2010 2:42 pm, Per Boysen wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:30 PM, ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> What do you mean by "fat tone", Per?Â  Can you give an example of
>> someone's tone that you're trying to emulate?
>
> Jah Wobble's tone is a good example.
>
>> Then there's the bass synth way - a nice square wave makes things good
>> 'n' groovey.Â  And there's the Bill Laswell trick and run an envelope
>> filter but set threshold so the gate doesn't open which gives a very dub
>> sound.
>>
>
> Yep, I use that trick when mixing. Did it on this bassist as well in
> the studio. Great trick! :-) Would be nice to find a stomp box that
> does it for her live.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>





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Unless Zvex holds a patent on this circuit it does not infringe upon intell=
ectual property.
It may be in questionable taste, or even bad karma, but it isn't illegal.
Here's one of several web posts I found on the issue:

http://www.intelproplaw.com/Copyright/Forum/msg/385.shtml

"The copyright only protects the mode of expression, not the idea embodied =
in it.
Unless there is a patent involved you are free to make as much use of the c=
ircuit
as you want."
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Jeff


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It does infringe upon intellectual property, however, and as a=20
musician you should respect that.

-Chuck Zwicky

>It's not thiervery, only PCB layouts can be copyrighted and at the end
>of the day most modern boutique pedals are simply clones with tweaks,
>case in point the Malekko pedal I recommended which is a clone of the
>Brassmaster but it would be way harder to build and if you get a
>Germainium one source good trannys could be a pain.

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Date: Wed=2C 27 Jan 2010 14:58:05 -0800
From: slapbandjam@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com





Electric LadyLand =3D favorite album of all time





From: "looppool@cruzio.com" <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed=2C January 27=2C 2010 5:32:33 PM
Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music

That was an excellent and eye opening post=2C Tyler.
thanks for taking the time to elucidate your views for us.

I have been firmly in the opposite camp that you are in =2C but it made me
pause and
really reconsider my own position and=2C certainly=2C  soften my own prejud=
ice
against the iPod phenomena.

One thing you said made me pause and want to reply=2C however.

You said:
"....... more often than
not=2C they wouldn't have exactly what i was looking for=2C so i'd end up
blindly buying other stuff with mixed results. so that can be pretty
frustrating. sure=2C i came upon some great finds=2C but NOTHING can
compare with highly tuned recommendation algorithms=2C not even friends
recommendations."

I have to agree to disagree with you on this point and say that some of
the very best (and most surprising) entries to my own musical life
have come =2C specifically from NOT finding things in record stores and
randomly walking through sections of music.    I've even had luck picking
out CDs by artwork alone or by chance conversations with someone browsing
in the same section as me.    This was almost my entire
method for falling in love with abstract electronic and getting into the
genre.
I did purchase things that I didn't like and had to sell them back but the
return=2C aesthetically for my chance taking was returned ten fold by what =
I
stumbled upon that then really influenced my own artistry.

I also have a dear friend=2C John Connell (who has played the looping
festival twice)=2C who is the buyer for the world music=2C electronica=2C m=
etal=2C
industrial and goth sections at our Streetlight Records who has
contributed incredibly to my musical life.

John's tastes and mine are frequently diametrically opposed.    But he is
a very=2C very intelligent=2C sensitive and dedicated fan of music in many
forms and I've discovered that out of 10 recommendations I will return 9
of them (to get 75% of my purchase price back) and then 10th one
frequently will change my life musically.  It'll be something I'd never
try on my own like that shirt someone buys for you for your birthday that
you'd never buy but that becomes your favorite because it lets you see
yourself in a different way.....one that expands you.

What an inexpensive and terrible percentage of connection=2C eh?      But t=
o
me=2C  the things he's turned me onto in my life are things I would have
never discovered on my own and wouldn't have been served up to me on a
platter on Pandora.

Part of my beef with the way things are currently=2C  is exactly that we ca=
n
live in micro niche's musically because of the ways that Amazon=2C Ebay=2C
Pandor and other entities keep recommending things that are like what we
have liked in the past.  I'm all for resonance=2C but:

I remember when underground FM radio first started in the hippy days in
Northern California
that you could listen to a DJ play Odetta=2C  the Doors=2C  Joni Mitchell a=
nd
then Ravi Shankar
on the same program.  There was a sense that you could discover new
worlds=2C musically at that time.

For this reason=2C  Bill Graham would specifically book the Duke Ellington
Orchestra and=2C say=2C Jimi Hendrix on the same bill because he wanted to
educate the young hippy audiences that he
booked for.    I saw Gordon Lightfoot=2C Canned Heat and some local SF
psychedelic band at the Fillmore on my 16th birthday.

Lately=2C  I find that the kids that I teach know only specific genres of
music and frequently =2C aren't interested in other kinds of music at all. =
=20
  This makes for some shredding
speed metal and punk drummers=2C I'll have to admit=2C but there seems to b=
e a
mono fixated quality to their listening and playing habits.

Additionally=2C  they don't have any concept of longer forms of music. =20
They never listen to an artist's albums because they are always purchasing
single songs on iTunes.  I frequently get=2C
"Jimi Hendrix?    What songs does he do?"    I have to admit that I can't
remember all the song
titles on the wonderful Electric Ladyland double album but try to convince
them that they are missing something if they are only playing his
'greatest hits' and not experience how he=2C as an artist created this
beautiful long form musical work.    Listen to single tracks out of order
from THE side of Abbey Road by the Beatles and you've missed something
important in my own
opinion.

I guess this is just a bloated paean to diversity and chance in our
musical adventures.

I certainly  don't want to become the embittered old man that I used to
hate as a very young angry man...............you know:  "we had to walk
through snow and broken glass barefoot to school when I was a boy and WE
LIKE IT!!!"

I want to keep an open mind about the way things are going=2C  but I do mis=
s
a bit of the diversity that the new ways of purchasing music=2C digitally
seem to be missing.

Educate me=2C however=2C  Tyler=2C  you've got a really good head on your
shoulders!

yours=2C  Rick


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Well,  I designed the circuit.  I licensed it to Z-vex,  and I think 
it's unethical to steal.  Just because something is legal does not 
mean it's morally correct.

Karma indeed...

-Chuck Zwicky

>Unless Zvex holds a patent on this circuit it does not infringe upon 
>intellectual property.
>It may be in questionable taste, or even bad karma, but it isn't illegal.
>Here's one of several web posts I found on the issue:
>
>http://www.intelproplaw.com/Copyright/Forum/msg/385.shtml
>
>"The copyright only protects the mode of expression, not the idea 
>embodied in it.
>Unless there is a patent involved you are free to make as much use 
>of the circuit
>as you want."
>
>Jeff
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:20 PM
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>It does infringe upon intellectual property, however, and as a
>musician you should respect that.
>
>-Chuck Zwicky
>
>>It's not thiervery, only PCB layouts can be copyrighted and at the end
>>of the day most modern boutique pedals are simply clones with tweaks,
>>case in point the Malekko pedal I recommended which is a clone of the
>>Brassmaster but it would be way harder to build and if you get a
>>Germainium one source good trannys could be a pain.


-- 

...
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I apologise if you interpret my intentions as underhanded, I own 3
zvex pedals and he think he makes great stuff but in my defence 90% of
what is on the market in terms of boutique effects or amps for that
matter are tweaked clones of classic circuits, even 3 of Vex's designs
in fact. PCBs are IP as they are considered art work, circuits are not
IP in legal terms but I guess the judgement falls to personal morals
about that and we can agree to disagree. Still think the Malekko is
the way to go though ;-)

Mark.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wr=
ote:
> It does infringe upon intellectual property, however, and as a musician y=
ou
> should respect that.
>
> -Chuck Zwicky
>
>> It's not thiervery, only PCB layouts can be copyrighted and at the end
>> of the day most modern boutique pedals are simply clones with tweaks,
>> case in point the Malekko pedal I recommended which is a clone of the
>> Brassmaster but it would be way harder to build and if you get a
>> Germainium one source good trannys could be a pain.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> =A0I wouldn't recommend such thievery...
>>>
>>> =A0CZ
>>>
>>>> =A0Malekko Assmaster is pretty unbelievable as is the wooly mammoth
>>>> =A0(build it yourself, easy and pretty available schematic) or an old
>>>> =A0green russian big muff.
>>>
>>> =A0--
>>>
>>> =A0...
>>> =A0http://www.zmix.net
>>>
>>> =A0http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
>
> ...
> http://www.zmix.net
>
> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
>
>

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Sorry I didn't see this post, I guess you got me on my conscience with
this one as I do feel slightly less comfortable knowing it was your
design. Congrats on that by the way it is great, I wish he would do a
vexter version though, i'd be all over it then.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> w=
rote:
>
> Well, =A0I designed the circuit. =A0I licensed it to Z-vex, =A0and I thin=
k it's
> unethical to steal. =A0Just because something is legal does not mean it's
> morally correct.
>
> Karma indeed...
>
> -Chuck Zwicky
>
>> Unless Zvex holds a patent on this circuit it does not infringe upon
>> intellectual property.
>> It may be in questionable taste, or even bad karma, but it isn't illegal=
.
>> Here's one of several web posts I found on the issue:
>>
>> http://www.intelproplaw.com/Copyright/Forum/msg/385.shtml
>>
>> "The copyright only protects the mode of expression, not the idea embodi=
ed
>> in it.
>> Unless there is a patent involved you are free to make as much use of th=
e
>> circuit
>> as you want."
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:20 PM
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: Re: Bass players - what's a good stomp pedal for FAT tone?
>>
>> It does infringe upon intellectual property, however, and as a
>> musician you should respect that.
>>
>> -Chuck Zwicky
>>
>>> It's not thiervery, only PCB layouts can be copyrighted and at the end
>>> of the day most modern boutique pedals are simply clones with tweaks,
>>> case in point the Malekko pedal I recommended which is a clone of the
>>> Brassmaster but it would be way harder to build and if you get a
>>> Germainium one source good trannys could be a pain.
>
>
> --
>
> ...
> http://www.zmix.net
>
> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
>
>

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To my list colleagues:

 I wanted to share this with you because you'll get it for sure...

NPR's All Things Considered featured a tune which was written for me and
which I play regularly and produced for a recently issued New World
Recording.

It is the third part of the segment featured at this link:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3D122857456

there on the webpage you can listen to a 6 minute segment of this 13 minute
long composition.

There isn't a link to the whole thing, I regret. However, it's featured in
its entirety on a New Sounds Live podcast soon to be released by WNYC. I ca=
n
post again then if you like.

The composition is written with two delay boxes, like as in, OLD ones, by
its composer, Ingram Marshall... But over the years I've done it with
everything from two EDP's to Max/MSP to an Eventide Orville to Ableton Live=
,
and I am now redesigning it again for Max4Live.

I thought it might be interesting to share how 'what we do' as loopers live=
s
in the world of very classical music, as it's still very much a part of wha=
t
I do as well, realizing others' work.

Cheers, all of you, enjoying all the conversations at play these days.

Todd Reynolds



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To my list colleagues:<div><br></div><div>=A0I wanted to share this with yo=
u because you&#39;ll get it for sure...<div><br></div><div>NPR&#39;s All Th=
ings Considered featured a tune which was written for me and which I play r=
egularly and produced for a recently issued New World Recording.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It is the third part of the segment featured at this li=
nk: =A0</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.npr.org/templates/st=
ory/story.php?storyId=3D122857456">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story=
.php?storyId=3D122857456</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>there on the webpage you can listen to a 6 minute segme=
nt of this 13 minute long composition.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>There is=
n&#39;t a link to the whole thing, I regret. However, it&#39;s featured in =
its entirety on a New Sounds Live podcast soon to be released by WNYC. I ca=
n post again then if you like.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The composition is written with two delay boxes, like a=
s in, OLD ones, by its composer, Ingram Marshall... But over the years I&#3=
9;ve done it with everything from two EDP&#39;s to Max/MSP to an Eventide O=
rville to Ableton Live, and I am now redesigning it again for Max4Live. =A0=
</div>
<div><br></div><div>I thought it might be interesting to share how &#39;wha=
t we do&#39; as loopers lives in the world of very classical music, as it&#=
39;s still very much a part of what I do as well, realizing others&#39; wor=
k.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers, all of you, enjoying all the conversations at p=
lay these days.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Todd Reynolds=A0</div><div><br>=
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Hey all,

I've opened a reply email to this thread four times and keep closing it =
down for fear of getting too passionate, but I'm finally going to throw =
in a couple bucks on the issue as I've spend probably months of my life =
having this debate with various folks in various forms. I work as a =
Music Director as a campus and community radio station and, as a head's =
up to my position on the issue, we do not accept digital submissions. =
Here goes:


ENVIRONMENTAL COST/HIGH OCCUPANCY
I agree that yes, there is an environmental footprint in the creation =
and distribution of recordings. But at the same time, I look back on my =
musical learnings as a child, flipping through my Dad's record =
collection and seeing the amazing album cover to "Physical Graffiti" by =
Led Zeppelin (housed in a beautiful custom die cut which you could =
change what/who was sitting in the windows), and I remember loving that =
record before I even put it on the record player. I truly doubt I would =
have had the musical connection I have now without these early =
experiences of  simply gazing at these amazing album jackets, something =
not possible if my Dad's collection had been handed to me on an external =
hard drive. I'm having my first kid in a month, and someday I hope that =
they grab onto something from my collection and treasure it as much as I =
once did. Yes, I know that this is an emotional retort to a logical =
point, but when has music fallen in the category of logic. Ha!


ARTWORK
My early experiences with album artwork might have influenced my love =
for album artwork, but I LOVE good artwork. I understand your position =
Tyler - if I had a dollar for every album in my collection with terrible =
artwork, well... But, at the same time, if I had $100 for every record I =
own with beautiful artwork which enhances my enjoyment of that record, =
I'd be even richer. I know this might not seem like a fair balance, but =
I honestly believe that records with good artwork take my enjoyment to =
levels I would never achieve otherwise. For example, I would never have =
gotten into the amazing catalog of music on the Intr.Version label in =
Montreal if it weren't for their thread-stitched CD covers. I would =
never have gotten into the noisy meanderings of the Vancouver Fake Jazz =
scene had I not been enticed to buy a number of their spray-painted =
cassette tapes. Would have I enjoyed the new Megafaun album I bought =
four days ago if it wasn't for the amazing art etching on the fourth =
side? Of course! (it's a really good record), but not nearly as much.


RECORD STORES
This is the point that I die on every time, as I truly believe that the =
end of the record store is going to mean substantial problems for the =
music industry - much greater than just the ability to buy physical =
product. Here we go...

1. If record stores die, where will independent/self-released artists go =
to sell their wares (think about that amazing wall in your local record =
store promoting the latest and greatest by musicians in your community)? =
The reason artists have been able to develop themselves in the past is =
they have been able to grow with their fan base, selling their merch =
locally, then regionally, then nationally, then internationally as they =
succeed as an artist. Throw everyone in the pot that is digital album =
sales and you no longer have that support and growth from a local level =
- it's everyone, everywhere vying for the top spot. Really I think this =
sends us back to the days when the major recording labels were the only =
ones getting any major placement/album sales since they have the money =
to buy out the main advertising spots on the distribution method. I =
don't know this for sure, but I'd be willing to bet some money that the =
"single of the day" on iTunes isn't picked by some under-paid record =
store clerk who just really loves that band, but rather it is paid for =
by whomever has the money to do so. Besides this point, when an artist =
skips the steps of local-regional-national-international in terms of =
their fan base growth, it is very hard to book shows. For example, the =
first ten records of a new digital record could be sold in ten entirely =
different and regionally unobtainable markets across the world, whereas =
if I sold them all locally I have ten potential fans who might come to =
my show, spread the word, etc.. This continues throughout the whole =
growth model, and I can continue to branch out from my home base.

2. If you take record stores away, where are people going to see posters =
for shows and then buy tickets for those shows? Where are people going =
to talk to other local music nerds or answer printed wanted ads and =
start bands? Where are people going to talk to folks they would never =
talk to other than for their extreme passion of music? Yes, I realize =
that there are digital equivalents for all these things, but keeping the =
money/talent/information localized is a good thing that will be lost in =
the many websites and bulletin boards of the internet.

3. My strongest reasoning for the survival of local independent record =
stores is their integral part in a healthy local music scene - they are =
like one "organ" of the body this is a local music scene. For example: =
they buy ads in local entertainment media, which in turn keeps those =
media outlets in business, which in turn provides coverage on new local =
talent, who in turn sell merchandise at the record store. It's a =
beautiful loop, and in a lot of cities, no local record stores means no =
local entertainment media, and that's no good for local bands. How about =
the manufacturing system? Physical product is manufactured and sent to a =
distributor, who in turn sell it to record stores - no record stores =
means no distributors and no manufacturing plants. This is not just jobs =
lost when these businesses close down, but valuable parts of a regional =
musical network. I have to admit I haven't had any organs removed from =
my body to date, but I'm pretty sure the loss of one never comes without =
problems further down the chain.


I may sound like an old man in a rocking chair on my front porch =
proclaiming the end of the world - and maybe I am - but at the same time =
I'll admit that the digital age has brought about some amazing wins for =
the small artist in terms of promotion and sales that I do wish to =
acknowledge. The democratization of music distribution and promotion is =
a good thing and has allowed for some really amazing, non-commercial =
material to grace my ears. At the same time, I am constantly inundated =
with heaps of the worst garbage ever made. It has become too easy to =
become a musician in a lot of ways - recording, promotion and =
distribution can be done on almost no investment - and I think this has =
brought about the end of the music career Eno talked about in that quote =
which started us down this path. There are just too many people making =
so many splintered, random, sometimes-putrid and sometimes-wonderful =
variations of music to ever have another Beatles, Rolling Stones or Roxy =
Music. At the same time, though physical product may not be of interest =
to the casual music listener (and therefore a career built on selling =
physical product vs digital sales is not attainable), as long as there =
are weirdo music fans out there like myself, I feel (and hope) there =
will always be a place for physical medium.

-Myke







On 2010-01-26, at 10:08 PM, tyler newman wrote:

> hi-
>>=20
>> . But there is something special there that is lost on the I-Pod =
generation. I concur.
>>=20
> i'm not too sure that i agree with a great deal of the sentiment =
expressed here, re: the fetishism of owning plastic/vinyl discs.
>=20
> i'm not the ipod generation, nor am i old enough to actually consider =
vinyl "the superior medium". i own a few thousand cd's, accumulated over =
the past two decades more or less. i own zero vinyl records. i have =
owned four ipods. i have not owned a cd player in a decade. my primary =
source for listening to music is my computer and my ipod. i do not =
pirate music, ever.
>=20
> at the beginning of 2009, i decided to do an experiment, and switch =
all my music purchases to digital only for the whole year. ok, i cheated =
a few times (if, and only if) a band i liked came through town; i'd =
probably buy their cd if i liked their performance. that said, i will =
probably never purchase another cd / physical product. here's a short =
list:
>=20
> 1. the environmental cost is far too high. someday i'll be dead. and =
where will all that plastic end up? all those bulky jewel cases and =
shiny plastic coasters full of music that someone once cared about and =
now no one does. i don't like the idea of leaving a giant plastic =
footprint on the world.
>=20
> 2. they are low touch, high occupancy items. i buy a cd, i rip it in =
itunes, i shelve it. end of story. sure i might read the liner notes a =
time or two. but by and large it is literally sitting there taking up =
space for the next X number of years. eventually, we're back to point 1, =
above.
>=20
> 3. artwork, whatever. if i had a dollar for every cd i've bought with =
terrible artwork with no information inside, i could go on an itunes =
shopping spree. a nicely done PDF can be FAR better than a printed =
booklet, if it's done with some creative vision.
>=20
> 4. record stores. sorry, but i really consider these a massive waste =
of time. don't get me wrong i used to get a lot of pleasure out of =
spending hours of my time and many many dollars at amoeba (here in SF, =
truly one of the nations best record stores). BUT, more often than not, =
they wouldn't have exactly what i was looking for, so i'd end up blindly =
buying other stuff with mixed results. so that can be pretty =
frustrating. sure, i came upon some great finds, but NOTHING can compare =
with highly tuned recommendation algorithms, not even friends =
recommendations. while i'm not too convinced by amazons recommender, i =
think emusic has a great one, and of course netflix (yes, different =
medium, but same principle) is basically unrivalled. add to that the =
fact that i can literally be listening to the record in my home =
environment in a matter of seconds, that's very compelling.
>=20
> for me, digital is by far a superior music purchasing experience. i =
use itunes (rarely), amazon (occasionally), and emusic (like a crack =
addiction).
>=20
> of course, as an artist, the move to digital has hurt my overall =
sales, as more people use file transfer for music piracy. that's an =
undeniable fact. BUT, it's helped me as well:
>=20
> 1. digital sales are 100% trackable. this means that the numbers =
reported to soundscan are 100% accurate. no more guesswork as to how =
many onestops out there don't subscribe to soundscan, meaning i have no =
idea what my actual sales numbers are. i have a perfectly good =
relationship with my label, but nonetheless, i like seeing concrete data =
too.
>=20
> 2. no physical product means that there are no more physical product =
returns affecting my sales. this is huge for me, as i got seriously =
screwed when tower records went out of business and returned over 2500 =
copies of my second album. i'm almost, but not quite, out of that hole =
(several years later).
>=20
> 3. streaming revenue is making me more money now than physical sales =
on some of my records (the older ones in particular), which helps a lot. =
in a way, it's the perfect union of the above two points...how many =
broadcast radio stations really report accurate info? computer data =
allows for all of this to be 100% trackable, and helps my performing =
rights organization actually collect money and pay me!
>=20
> i like the fact that eno is being so confrontational with his =
statement. artists are all too often throwing their hands in the air and =
bemoaning the death of the music industry. i've done it myself! so the =
challenge is to come up with other ways of making it work.
>=20
> we're supposed to be creative people, right?
>=20
> - tyler / informatik
> - www.nymphomatik.com
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20

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Just curious what people think about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8MlydSokog

Just finished the drums and probability matrices, looking for ideas.

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Mark,

  Thanks for the response.  I just returned from a session and while I 
was on the train to the studio I was considering the justification 
for stealing / bootlegging / copying commercial effect pedals... the 
argument that you presented was that boutique pedals were  "clones 
with tweaks" ...  This is like arguing that you can illegally 
download a song because it uses a I-IV-V chord sequence.  I think 
it's just that naive.

Consider the amount of work that goes into designing, tweaking, 
manufacturing, styling, distributing, marketing and maintaining a 
line of  effect pedals, and  the comparable amount of time and money 
spent arranging, recording, mixing, mastering, duplicating, 
packaging, marketing an album.

It may be flattering to think that people will steal your work 
because it's that good, but the bottom line is the bottom line.    In 
both cases the parties involved intend to support themselves through 
their efforts, and the cynical thieves who help themselves to the 
work  justify their action by devaluing the work, in essence blaming 
the victim.

Food for thought,

Chuck  Zwicky


>Sorry I didn't see this post, I guess you got me on my conscience with
>this one as I do feel slightly less comfortable knowing it was your
>design. Congrats on that by the way it is great, I wish he would do a
>vexter version though, i'd be all over it then.
>
>On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Charles Zwicky 
><cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Well,  I designed the circuit.  I licensed it to Z-vex,  and I think it's
>>  unethical to steal.  Just because something is legal does not mean it's
>>  morally correct.
>>
>>  Karma indeed...
>>
>>  -Chuck Zwicky
>>
>>>  Unless Zvex holds a patent on this circuit it does not infringe upon
>>>  intellectual property.
>>>  It may be in questionable taste, or even bad karma, but it isn't illegal.
>>>  Here's one of several web posts I found on the issue:
>>>
>>>  http://www.intelproplaw.com/Copyright/Forum/msg/385.shtml
>>>
>>>  "The copyright only protects the mode of expression, not the idea embodied
>>>  in it.
>>>  Unless there is a patent involved you are free to make as much use of the
>>>  circuit
>>>  as you want."
>>>
>>>  Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net]
>>>  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:20 PM
>>>  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>  Subject: Re: Bass players - what's a good stomp pedal for FAT tone?
>>>
>>>  It does infringe upon intellectual property, however, and as a
>>>  musician you should respect that.
>>>
>>>  -Chuck Zwicky
>>>
>>>>  It's not thiervery, only PCB layouts can be copyrighted and at the end
>>>>  of the day most modern boutique pedals are simply clones with tweaks,
>>>>  case in point the Malekko pedal I recommended which is a clone of the
>>>>  Brassmaster but it would be way harder to build and if you get a
>>>>  Germainium one source good trannys could be a pain.
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>>  ...
>>  http://www.zmix.net
>>
>>  http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
>>
>>


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http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

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hi-
>
> Part of my beef with the way things are currently,  is exactly that  
> we can live in micro niche's musically because of the ways that  
> Amazon, Ebay,
> Pandor and other entities keep recommending things that are like  
> what we have liked in the past.  I'm all for resonance, but:
>
> I remember when underground FM radio first started in the hippy days  
> in Northern California that you could listen to a DJ play Odetta,   
> the Doors,   Joni Mitchell and
> then Ravi Shankar on the same program.  There was a sense that you  
> could discover new worlds, musically at that time.
>
well, i totally understand what you're saying here. it's important to  
not let the recommendation algorithms be the ONLY source of musical  
suggestion. there's still no substitute for doing your own legwork,  
and digging up new sounds on your own. personally, i listen to a very  
wide range of musical styles, so the algorithms keep things fairly  
diverse for me...but if i went solely on their suggestions, i would  
indeed drive myself into a corner fairly quickly. it's all about the  
input that you feed it.

to be honest, i'm not old enough to remember broadcast radio as  
anything but corporate hits (i kind of came of age with radio in the  
80's, and my parents had pretty mainsteam taste). and "kids today" are  
even less so. the vast majority of broadcast radio stations are  
playing the same songs, at the same times, in all markets. there's no  
diversity whatsoever, it exists solely on the internet. i would LOVE  
it if broadcast radio could be the wildly diverse spectrum of music  
that pandora can be. but we all know that's just not going to happen.  
playlists that include sigur ros, britney spears, cannibal corpse,  
arto lindsey, front 242, and shostakovich within one hour may work in  
MY house, but there's no commercial upside for that in reality :)  so  
for most people, whether we like it or not, the internet IS that new  
frontier...it's up to the listeners drive to explore that defines  
their experience.

> Lately,  I find that the kids that I teach know only specific genres  
> of music and frequently , aren't interested in other kinds of music  
> at all.
> This makes for some shredding speed metal and punk drummers, I'll  
> have to admit, but there seems to be a mono fixated quality to their  
> listening and playing habits.
>
in a lot of ways, it's the dividing line between people who truly  
appreciate music, and passive listeners. passive listeners are people  
who listen to broadcast radio, and generally are responsible for  
driving the success of the huge commercial acts. they're spoonfed  
easily digested music, and are satisfied with it. they don't go  
digging into obscure musics, or into individual artists backcatalogues  
or anything like that. music is a background aspect of their lives, a  
soundtrack to their daily grind.

someone who really gives a shit about music, especially musicians, are  
doing themselves an extreme disservice by focusing solely on any one  
style or genre. it's one thing to have a deep appreciation for  
something and a true depth of knowledge about it, but it's sort of  
akin to only ever eating steak and potatoes. the kids that you mention  
will probably eventually give up on creating their own music because  
their lack of passion doesn't allow them to ever gain any deeper  
understanding of music as a cultural ideal (that is to say, something  
that can be appreciated across a variety of stylistic choices).

> Additionally,  they don't have any concept of longer forms of  
> music.  They never listen to an artist's albums because they are  
> always purchasing
> single songs on iTunes.   I frequently get, "Jimi Hendrix?    What  
> songs does he do?"    I have to admit that I can't remember all the  
> song
> titles on the wonderful Electric Ladyland double album but try to  
> convince them that they are missing something if they are only  
> playing his
> 'greatest hits' and not experience how he, as an artist created this  
> beautiful long form musical work. Listen to single tracks out of order
> from THE side of Abbey Road by the Beatles and you've missed  
> something important in my own opinion.

i definitely agree. this is far and away (for me) the greatest  
downside to the notion of digital purchasing. while i'm generally down  
with the idea of allowing people the option to cherry pick albums, it  
definitely does cause some problems for listening to the context of  
the work as a whole. abbey road is a perfect example. i do love the  
"shuffle" option, because it can expose me to deep cuts from the  
bowels of my music collection. but it can definitely detract from  
gaining a deeper understanding of the artist intent, particularly when  
the album sequencing is done intentionally to expose some kind of  
dramatic arc across the length of the album. that said, we can't  
change the ADHD nature of our society, so it's up to us to work within  
that limitation (or ignore it, as the case may often be).

my original post was made mostly just because i am surrounded by  
musicians and label people constantly, and this whole "the industry is  
collapsing" thing is all i ever hear. and a lot of that gets blamed on  
MP3 technology, which is just nuts. that's like blaming cars for car  
accidents. having seen a wide variety of creative expression here on  
this list, i was just a little surprised to hear that type of thing  
happening here. i do have hope that there is a solution out there  
waiting to be found. but sitting around and complaining about it won't  
necessarily do it. luddite tactics ("cds / vinyls / wax cylinders were  
better than mp3") aren't going to fly either. it's up to US to choose  
what we do with the technology available to us.

ps, that said, i don't have the answer either. but i keep my eyes and  
ears open to possibilities.

- tyler / informatik
- www.nymphomatik.com
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>hi-<br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"><br>Part =
of my beef with the way things are currently, &nbsp;is exactly that we =
can&nbsp;live in micro niche's musically because of the ways that =
Amazon, Ebay,<br>Pandor and other entities keep recommending things that =
are like what we&nbsp;have liked in the past. &nbsp;I'm all for =
resonance, but:<br><br>I remember when underground FM radio first =
started in the hippy days in&nbsp;Northern California&nbsp;that you =
could listen to a DJ play Odetta, &nbsp;the Doors, &nbsp;&nbsp;Joni =
Mitchell and</div></span></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: =
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
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-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">then =
Ravi Shankar&nbsp;on the same program. &nbsp;There was a sense that you =
could discover new&nbsp;worlds, musically at that =
time.<br><br></div></span></blockquote>well, i totally understand what =
you're saying here. it's important to not let the recommendation =
algorithms be the ONLY source of musical suggestion. there's still no =
substitute for doing your own legwork, and digging up new sounds on your =
own. personally, i listen to a very wide range of musical styles, so the =
algorithms keep things fairly diverse for me...but if i went solely on =
their suggestions, i would indeed drive myself into a corner fairly =
quickly. it's all about the input that you feed =
it.</div><div><br></div><div>to be honest, i'm not old enough to =
remember broadcast radio as anything but corporate hits (i kind of came =
of age with radio in the 80's, and my parents had pretty mainsteam =
taste). and "kids today" are even less so. the vast majority of =
broadcast radio stations are playing the same songs, at the same times, =
in all markets. there's no diversity whatsoever, it exists solely on the =
internet. i would LOVE it if broadcast radio could be the wildly diverse =
spectrum of music that pandora can be. but we all know that's just not =
going to happen. playlists that include sigur ros, britney spears, =
cannibal corpse, arto lindsey, front 242, and shostakovich within one =
hour may work in MY house, but there's no commercial upside for that in =
reality :) &nbsp;so for most people, whether we like it or not, the =
internet IS that new frontier...it's up to the listeners drive to =
explore that defines their experience.</div><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: =
auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
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-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">Lately, =
&nbsp;I find that the kids that I teach know only specific genres =
of&nbsp;music and frequently , aren't interested in other kinds of music =
at all. &nbsp;<br>This makes for some shredding&nbsp;speed metal and =
punk drummers, I'll have to admit, but there seems to be a&nbsp;mono =
fixated quality to their listening and playing =
habits.<br><br></div></span></blockquote>in a lot of ways, it's the =
dividing line between people who truly appreciate music, and passive =
listeners. passive listeners are people who listen to broadcast radio, =
and generally are responsible for driving the success of the huge =
commercial acts. they're spoonfed easily digested music, and are =
satisfied with it. they don't go digging into obscure musics, or into =
individual artists backcatalogues or anything like that. music is a =
background aspect of their lives, a soundtrack to their daily =
grind.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>someone who really gives a shit =
about music, especially musicians, are doing themselves an extreme =
disservice by focusing solely on any one style or genre. it's one thing =
to have a deep appreciation for something and a true depth of knowledge =
about it, but it's sort of akin to only ever eating steak and potatoes. =
the kids that you mention will probably eventually give up on creating =
their own music because their lack of passion doesn't allow them to ever =
gain any deeper understanding of music as a cultural ideal (that is to =
say, something that can be appreciated across a variety of stylistic =
choices).</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: =
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div =
bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">Additionally, &nbsp;they don't have any concept of =
longer forms of music. &nbsp;They never listen to an artist's albums =
because they are always purchasing<br>single songs on iTunes. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;I frequently get,&nbsp;"Jimi Hendrix? &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;What =
songs does he do?" &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have to admit that I =
can't&nbsp;remember all the song<br>titles on the wonderful Electric =
Ladyland double album but try to convince&nbsp;them that they are =
missing something if they are only playing his<br>'greatest hits' and =
not experience how he, as an artist created this&nbsp;beautiful long =
form musical work. Listen to single tracks out of order<br>from THE side =
of Abbey Road by the Beatles and you've missed something&nbsp;important =
in my own&nbsp;opinion.<br></div></span></blockquote></div><br><div>i =
definitely agree. this is far and away (for me) the greatest downside to =
the notion of digital purchasing. while i'm generally down with the idea =
of allowing people the option to cherry pick albums, it definitely does =
cause some problems for listening to the context of the work as a whole. =
abbey road is a perfect example. i do love the "shuffle" option, because =
it can expose me to deep cuts from the bowels of my music collection. =
but it can definitely detract from gaining a deeper understanding of the =
artist intent, particularly when the album sequencing is done =
intentionally to expose some kind of dramatic arc across the length of =
the album. that said, we can't change the ADHD nature of our society, so =
it's up to us to work within that limitation (or ignore it, as the case =
may often be).</div><div><br></div><div>my original post was made mostly =
just because i am surrounded by musicians and label people constantly, =
and this whole "the industry is collapsing" thing is all i ever hear. =
and a lot of that gets blamed on MP3 technology, which is just nuts. =
that's like blaming cars for car accidents. having seen a wide variety =
of creative expression here on this list, i was just a little surprised =
to hear that type of thing happening here. i do have hope that there is =
a solution out there waiting to be found. but sitting around and =
complaining about it won't necessarily do it. luddite tactics ("cds / =
vinyls / wax cylinders were better than mp3") aren't going to fly =
either. it's up to US to choose what we do with the technology available =
to us.</div><div><br></div><div>ps, that said, i don't have the answer =
either. but i keep my eyes and ears open to =
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I´m from Germany, and have the same impression than you have for
the US, Rick. I think,the live scene is only increasing for some
of the well known, hip young acts, like Arctic Monkeys or so.
(not so familar with the new names...)
But the smaller acts, even quite famous bands  like
f.ex. GONG/STEVE HILLAGE BAND (double bill!)
who had an audience in Bonn/Germany (close to Cologne) at the Harmonie
in November last year of around 350, in Munich and Berlin it
were only 200 - are struggling hard to get enough people to the shows.
Not to talk about fairly unknown musicans
like me. I´m happy having 20 people at my shows.
And to even get engagements is very difficult, which you
can understand, because most promoters cannot make it
affordable with only 10 or 20 people attending.
This means for small bands/musicians: It´s not just the breakdown
of the CD-sales but also these problems with live-music that makes
it hard these days to catch a piece of the cake.
www.christojota.de
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> Per said,  "The live scene is reported as increasing too, as I hear from
> most countries."
>
> Not sure how it is in Sweden, Per,  but this is NOT the case in the US, or
> at least in Northern California.
>  There has been a rise in the number of live shows compared to how
> horrible it was here 5 years ago,
> but audience numbers are minuscule compared to what they were in , say the
> early 80's in Santa Cruz.
> In those days,  there were several local bands that could sell out the
> Catalyst (809 capacity) with
> regularity.
>
> In 1993,  my band Worlds Collide played the Catalyst once and drew close
> to 700 customers.
> We weren't asked back because our customers didn't drink enough.   700
> people
> is a hell of a lot of people.
>
> Nowadays, you are lucky if you get 50 people to come see a show.   Most
> shows have 20-30 people
> attending and most people balk at every spending more than $3-$5 USD for a
> show.
>
> I have a show this coming Saturday night at the Catalyst with Noise Clinic
> and I"m afraid of what the
> attendance will be.
>
> Attendance, I've read, nationally, is down even in the 'big bin' shows.
> Many groups that used to be able to
> sell out the 'big bin' shows are now doubling and even trebling up on
> their billings to be able to
> make enough draw to justify playing such huge places.
>
> Tony Levin,  Terry Bozio,  Alan Holdsworth and Pat Mastelleto just played
> a 200 seat club in Santa Cruz....................The last time Tony came
> (with a lineup not nearly
> as famous)  he played a 700 seater.
>
> But Santa Cruz is an anomalous place sociologically speaking, so I don't
> know if it is representative.
> We have vastly more live entertainment per capita than any place I've ever
> toured in and we just aren't a very
> big city (60,000 plus another 40,000 in our environs)
>
> What's it like in your city and/or country.  Attendance up or attendance
> down at shows?   Indie shows?
> Experimental shows?   Up or down?   I"m curious.
>

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Aaron that's a cool demo, what version of your software is it?  This is your
baby no?  I'm passing it along to an electronic drummer friend.

Jim

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Aaron Leese <aaronleese@flyloops.com>wrote:

>
>
> Just curious what people think about this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8MlydSokog
>
> Just finished the drums and probability matrices, looking for ideas.
>
>


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d.<br><br>Jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:1=
9 PM, Aaron Leese <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aaronleese@flyloo=
ps.com">aaronleese@flyloops.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<br>
Just curious what people think about this:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dg8MlydSokog" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dg8MlydSokog</a><br>
<br>
Just finished the drums and probability matrices, looking for ideas.<br>
<br>
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 textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.c=
om/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusi=
c.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
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hey.

the live scene is in a struggle in istanbul too for sure. it is so funny to 
see that the system has not changed at all. again it is the bands, acts who 
get supported by major labels or major pr that do get a chance to do 
touring. if you are doing experimental or a little adventurous music, you do 
not have many opportunities.

but on the other hand, there is much more opportunity for 
producer-musicians. if you can produce a rock band, pop act, your own 
albums, do remixes, and receive commissions from ensembles, festivals then 
you have a lot of new opportunities that you would not be able to receive 
before the digital age. you just need to be a engineer, producer, composer, 
musician, lyricist when needed, that is all. this is the exciting part of 
this new age for me.

thanks and best to all from snowy istanbul.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <chris@christojota.de>
To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:57 AM
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> I´m from Germany, and have the same impression than you have for
> the US, Rick. I think,the live scene is only increasing for some
> of the well known, hip young acts, like Arctic Monkeys or so.
> (not so familar with the new names...)
> But the smaller acts, even quite famous bands  like
> f.ex. GONG/STEVE HILLAGE BAND (double bill!)
> who had an audience in Bonn/Germany (close to Cologne) at the Harmonie
> in November last year of around 350, in Munich and Berlin it
> were only 200 - are struggling hard to get enough people to the shows.
> Not to talk about fairly unknown musicans
> like me. I´m happy having 20 people at my shows.
> And to even get engagements is very difficult, which you
> can understand, because most promoters cannot make it
> affordable with only 10 or 20 people attending.
> This means for small bands/musicians: It´s not just the breakdown
> of the CD-sales but also these problems with live-music that makes
> it hard these days to catch a piece of the cake.
> www.christojota.de
> www.myspace.com/christojota
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>
> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:34 AM
> Subject: Live Audience Attendance: Up or Down in your city?
>
>
>> Per said,  "The live scene is reported as increasing too, as I hear from
>> most countries."
>>
>> Not sure how it is in Sweden, Per,  but this is NOT the case in the US, 
>> or
>> at least in Northern California.
>>  There has been a rise in the number of live shows compared to how
>> horrible it was here 5 years ago,
>> but audience numbers are minuscule compared to what they were in , say 
>> the
>> early 80's in Santa Cruz.
>> In those days,  there were several local bands that could sell out the
>> Catalyst (809 capacity) with
>> regularity.
>>
>> In 1993,  my band Worlds Collide played the Catalyst once and drew close
>> to 700 customers.
>> We weren't asked back because our customers didn't drink enough.   700
>> people
>> is a hell of a lot of people.
>>
>> Nowadays, you are lucky if you get 50 people to come see a show.   Most
>> shows have 20-30 people
>> attending and most people balk at every spending more than $3-$5 USD for 
>> a
>> show.
>>
>> I have a show this coming Saturday night at the Catalyst with Noise 
>> Clinic
>> and I"m afraid of what the
>> attendance will be.
>>
>> Attendance, I've read, nationally, is down even in the 'big bin' shows.
>> Many groups that used to be able to
>> sell out the 'big bin' shows are now doubling and even trebling up on
>> their billings to be able to
>> make enough draw to justify playing such huge places.
>>
>> Tony Levin,  Terry Bozio,  Alan Holdsworth and Pat Mastelleto just played
>> a 200 seat club in Santa Cruz....................The last time Tony came
>> (with a lineup not nearly
>> as famous)  he played a 700 seater.
>>
>> But Santa Cruz is an anomalous place sociologically speaking, so I don't
>> know if it is representative.
>> We have vastly more live entertainment per capita than any place I've 
>> ever
>> toured in and we just aren't a very
>> big city (60,000 plus another 40,000 in our environs)
>>
>> What's it like in your city and/or country.  Attendance up or attendance
>> down at shows?   Indie shows?
>> Experimental shows?   Up or down?   I"m curious.
>>
> 





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I'm in Seattle.  Most clubs nearly fill up on weekends, and this is the 
local bands.  I think the bigger rock shows sell out, but nobody plays in 
the 3000 seat theatre anymore.  It's either the 1000 seat Moore theatre, 
small clubs, or a less often arena rock show.  For avant-garde stuff it's 
always a small crowd unless it's King Crimson or something.  Living Colour 
came to town and only 200 people showed up.  Very sad.

t
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> hey.
>
> the live scene is in a struggle in istanbul too for sure. it is so funny 
> to see that the system has not changed at all. again it is the bands, acts 
> who get supported by major labels or major pr that do get a chance to do 
> touring. if you are doing experimental or a little adventurous music, you 
> do not have many opportunities.
>
> but on the other hand, there is much more opportunity for 
> producer-musicians. if you can produce a rock band, pop act, your own 
> albums, do remixes, and receive commissions from ensembles, festivals then 
> you have a lot of new opportunities that you would not be able to receive 
> before the digital age. you just need to be a engineer, producer, 
> composer, musician, lyricist when needed, that is all. this is the 
> exciting part of this new age for me.
>
> thanks and best to all from snowy istanbul.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <chris@christojota.de>
> To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Live Audience Attendance: Up or Down in your city?
>
>
>> I´m from Germany, and have the same impression than you have for
>> the US, Rick. I think,the live scene is only increasing for some
>> of the well known, hip young acts, like Arctic Monkeys or so.
>> (not so familar with the new names...)
>> But the smaller acts, even quite famous bands  like
>> f.ex. GONG/STEVE HILLAGE BAND (double bill!)
>> who had an audience in Bonn/Germany (close to Cologne) at the Harmonie
>> in November last year of around 350, in Munich and Berlin it
>> were only 200 - are struggling hard to get enough people to the shows.
>> Not to talk about fairly unknown musicans
>> like me. I´m happy having 20 people at my shows.
>> And to even get engagements is very difficult, which you
>> can understand, because most promoters cannot make it
>> affordable with only 10 or 20 people attending.
>> This means for small bands/musicians: It´s not just the breakdown
>> of the CD-sales but also these problems with live-music that makes
>> it hard these days to catch a piece of the cake.
>> www.christojota.de
>> www.myspace.com/christojota
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>
>> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:34 AM
>> Subject: Live Audience Attendance: Up or Down in your city?
>>
>>
>>> Per said,  "The live scene is reported as increasing too, as I hear from
>>> most countries."
>>>
>>> Not sure how it is in Sweden, Per,  but this is NOT the case in the US, 
>>> or
>>> at least in Northern California.
>>>  There has been a rise in the number of live shows compared to how
>>> horrible it was here 5 years ago,
>>> but audience numbers are minuscule compared to what they were in , say 
>>> the
>>> early 80's in Santa Cruz.
>>> In those days,  there were several local bands that could sell out the
>>> Catalyst (809 capacity) with
>>> regularity.
>>>
>>> In 1993,  my band Worlds Collide played the Catalyst once and drew close
>>> to 700 customers.
>>> We weren't asked back because our customers didn't drink enough.   700
>>> people
>>> is a hell of a lot of people.
>>>
>>> Nowadays, you are lucky if you get 50 people to come see a show.   Most
>>> shows have 20-30 people
>>> attending and most people balk at every spending more than $3-$5 USD for 
>>> a
>>> show.
>>>
>>> I have a show this coming Saturday night at the Catalyst with Noise 
>>> Clinic
>>> and I"m afraid of what the
>>> attendance will be.
>>>
>>> Attendance, I've read, nationally, is down even in the 'big bin' shows.
>>> Many groups that used to be able to
>>> sell out the 'big bin' shows are now doubling and even trebling up on
>>> their billings to be able to
>>> make enough draw to justify playing such huge places.
>>>
>>> Tony Levin,  Terry Bozio,  Alan Holdsworth and Pat Mastelleto just 
>>> played
>>> a 200 seat club in Santa Cruz....................The last time Tony came
>>> (with a lineup not nearly
>>> as famous)  he played a 700 seater.
>>>
>>> But Santa Cruz is an anomalous place sociologically speaking, so I don't
>>> know if it is representative.
>>> We have vastly more live entertainment per capita than any place I've 
>>> ever
>>> toured in and we just aren't a very
>>> big city (60,000 plus another 40,000 in our environs)
>>>
>>> What's it like in your city and/or country.  Attendance up or attendance
>>> down at shows?   Indie shows?
>>> Experimental shows?   Up or down?   I"m curious.
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Hi

Capt Turner schrieb:
> I always use the RC-50 as a master going to my drum machine Dr-5.  I 
> wonder some about having another looper connected, wither the RC-50 will 
> pick up the tempo.
If you wanted to write "whether the RC-50 will pick up the tempo", vulgo 
if the RC-50 is the MIDI-Clock slave to another MIDI-Clock-master: Yes 
and No. Yes, because the RC-50 tries to do so. If you record something 
in Clockslave mode, it works as long as the clock stays bombproof 
stabile. If the tempo changes only slightly, the RC-50 tries some 
unbelievable bad kind of granular time stretching - the worst try I have 
ever heard. I sold the RC-50 because I must use my gear always as in 
Clock-Slave mode and therefor the RC-50 is unusable (at least for me).

Florian

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This is an interesting thread for me in the light of my inability to gain i=
nterest from live venues in Bristol for a looping extravaganza. It was easy=
 back in Wales where I was more in touch with the scene. I guess Ill have t=
o build up my contacts again.
For those of you expressed an interest=2C I'm keeping my nose/ear/ to the g=
round so to squeak.

G

> From: erdemhel@tnn.net
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Live Audience Attendance:    Up or Down in your city?
> Date: Thu=2C 28 Jan 2010 10:23:01 +0200
>=20
> hey.
>=20
> the live scene is in a struggle in istanbul too for sure. it is so funny =
to=20
> see that the system has not changed at all. again it is the bands=2C acts=
 who=20
> get supported by major labels or major pr that do get a chance to do=20
> touring. if you are doing experimental or a little adventurous music=2C y=
ou do=20
> not have many opportunities.
>=20
> but on the other hand=2C there is much more opportunity for=20
> producer-musicians. if you can produce a rock band=2C pop act=2C your own=
=20
> albums=2C do remixes=2C and receive commissions from ensembles=2C festiva=
ls then=20
> you have a lot of new opportunities that you would not be able to receive=
=20
> before the digital age. you just need to be a engineer=2C producer=2C com=
poser=2C=20
> musician=2C lyricist when needed=2C that is all. this is the exciting par=
t of=20
> this new age for me.
>=20
> thanks and best to all from snowy istanbul.
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: <chris@christojota.de>
> To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Thursday=2C January 28=2C 2010 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Live Audience Attendance: Up or Down in your city?
>=20
>=20
> > I=B4m from Germany=2C and have the same impression than you have for
> > the US=2C Rick. I think=2Cthe live scene is only increasing for some
> > of the well known=2C hip young acts=2C like Arctic Monkeys or so.
> > (not so familar with the new names...)
> > But the smaller acts=2C even quite famous bands  like
> > f.ex. GONG/STEVE HILLAGE BAND (double bill!)
> > who had an audience in Bonn/Germany (close to Cologne) at the Harmonie
> > in November last year of around 350=2C in Munich and Berlin it
> > were only 200 - are struggling hard to get enough people to the shows.
> > Not to talk about fairly unknown musicans
> > like me. I=B4m happy having 20 people at my shows.
> > And to even get engagements is very difficult=2C which you
> > can understand=2C because most promoters cannot make it
> > affordable with only 10 or 20 people attending.
> > This means for small bands/musicians: It=B4s not just the breakdown
> > of the CD-sales but also these problems with live-music that makes
> > it hard these days to catch a piece of the cake.
> > www.christojota.de
> > www.myspace.com/christojota
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>
> > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday=2C January 27=2C 2010 2:34 AM
> > Subject: Live Audience Attendance: Up or Down in your city?
> >
> >
> >> Per said=2C  "The live scene is reported as increasing too=2C as I hea=
r from
> >> most countries."
> >>
> >> Not sure how it is in Sweden=2C Per=2C  but this is NOT the case in th=
e US=2C=20
> >> or
> >> at least in Northern California.
> >>  There has been a rise in the number of live shows compared to how
> >> horrible it was here 5 years ago=2C
> >> but audience numbers are minuscule compared to what they were in =2C s=
ay=20
> >> the
> >> early 80's in Santa Cruz.
> >> In those days=2C  there were several local bands that could sell out t=
he
> >> Catalyst (809 capacity) with
> >> regularity.
> >>
> >> In 1993=2C  my band Worlds Collide played the Catalyst once and drew c=
lose
> >> to 700 customers.
> >> We weren't asked back because our customers didn't drink enough.   700
> >> people
> >> is a hell of a lot of people.
> >>
> >> Nowadays=2C you are lucky if you get 50 people to come see a show.   M=
ost
> >> shows have 20-30 people
> >> attending and most people balk at every spending more than $3-$5 USD f=
or=20
> >> a
> >> show.
> >>
> >> I have a show this coming Saturday night at the Catalyst with Noise=20
> >> Clinic
> >> and I"m afraid of what the
> >> attendance will be.
> >>
> >> Attendance=2C I've read=2C nationally=2C is down even in the 'big bin'=
 shows.
> >> Many groups that used to be able to
> >> sell out the 'big bin' shows are now doubling and even trebling up on
> >> their billings to be able to
> >> make enough draw to justify playing such huge places.
> >>
> >> Tony Levin=2C  Terry Bozio=2C  Alan Holdsworth and Pat Mastelleto just=
 played
> >> a 200 seat club in Santa Cruz....................The last time Tony ca=
me
> >> (with a lineup not nearly
> >> as famous)  he played a 700 seater.
> >>
> >> But Santa Cruz is an anomalous place sociologically speaking=2C so I d=
on't
> >> know if it is representative.
> >> We have vastly more live entertainment per capita than any place I've=
=20
> >> ever
> >> toured in and we just aren't a very
> >> big city (60=2C000 plus another 40=2C000 in our environs)
> >>
> >> What's it like in your city and/or country.  Attendance up or attendan=
ce
> >> down at shows?   Indie shows?
> >> Experimental shows?   Up or down?   I"m curious.
> >>
> >=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
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This is an interesting thread for me in the light of my inability to gain i=
nterest from live venues in Bristol for a looping extravaganza. It was easy=
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o build up my contacts again.<br>For those of you expressed an interest=2C =
I'm keeping my nose/ear/ to the ground so to squeak.<br><br>G<br><br>&gt=3B=
 From: erdemhel@tnn.net<br>&gt=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<b=
r>&gt=3B Subject: Re: Live Audience Attendance:    Up or Down in your city?=
<br>&gt=3B Date: Thu=2C 28 Jan 2010 10:23:01 +0200<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B hey=
.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B the live scene is in a struggle in istanbul too for =
sure. it is so funny to <br>&gt=3B see that the system has not changed at a=
ll. again it is the bands=2C acts who <br>&gt=3B get supported by major lab=
els or major pr that do get a chance to do <br>&gt=3B touring. if you are d=
oing experimental or a little adventurous music=2C you do <br>&gt=3B not ha=
ve many opportunities.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B but on the other hand=2C there =
is much more opportunity for <br>&gt=3B producer-musicians. if you can prod=
uce a rock band=2C pop act=2C your own <br>&gt=3B albums=2C do remixes=2C a=
nd receive commissions from ensembles=2C festivals then <br>&gt=3B you have=
 a lot of new opportunities that you would not be able to receive <br>&gt=
=3B before the digital age. you just need to be a engineer=2C producer=2C c=
omposer=2C <br>&gt=3B musician=2C lyricist when needed=2C that is all. this=
 is the exciting part of <br>&gt=3B this new age for me.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=
=3B thanks and best to all from snowy istanbul.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B ----- =
Original Message ----- <br>&gt=3B From: &lt=3Bchris@christojota.de&gt=3B<br=
>&gt=3B To: "Loopers-Delight" &lt=3BLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt=
=3B<br>&gt=3B Sent: Thursday=2C January 28=2C 2010 9:57 AM<br>&gt=3B Subjec=
t: Re: Live Audience Attendance: Up or Down in your city?<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=
=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B I=B4m from Germany=2C and have the same impression th=
an you have for<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B the US=2C Rick. I think=2Cthe live scene i=
s only increasing for some<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B of the well known=2C hip young =
acts=2C like Arctic Monkeys or so.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B (not so familar with th=
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bands  like<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B f.ex. GONG/STEVE HILLAGE BAND (double bill!)<b=
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christojota<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B ----- Original Message ----- =
<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B From: "Rick Walker" &lt=3Blooppool@cruzio.com&gt=3B<br>&g=
t=3B &gt=3B To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" &lt=3BLoopers-Delight@loopers-d=
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Subject: Re: Bass players - what's a good stomp pedal for FAT tone?
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I will concede that you clearly know a lot more about circuit design
and the work that goes into than me and I am aware that this probably
isn't the place for this discussion.

Two points I would add before concluding are; please stop using the
term stealing and theivery (the reason I initially responded at all)
as simply put, it is not the case and I resent the implication. Also
the analogy presented below is an extreme strech, "manufacturing,
styling, distributing, marketing and maintaining" someone building a
clone at home does not involve any of this and when you download a
song you get the artists work in it's entirity, you get their
performance and every nuance that went into producing it. I would
argue that building a clone is more the equivalent of recording a
cover version in your bedroom for your own listening pleasure. That is
why download a song is illegal and can very much be described as
stealing and cloning a fuzz pedal is not.

Anyway, I have never built a clone of a pedal zvex or otherwise as I
don't have the time nor inclination but I would personally not
discourage others from doing so. I apologise if this is a sore point
with you and now that I know that I concede in future not to recommend
such things on this list and/or point people in the direction of
information to help them do it.

Cheers,

Mark.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wr=
ote:
>
> Mark,
>
> =A0Thanks for the response. =A0I just returned from a session and while I=
 was on
> the train to the studio I was considering the justification for stealing =
/
> bootlegging / copying commercial effect pedals... the argument that you
> presented was that boutique pedals were =A0"clones with tweaks" ... =A0Th=
is is
> like arguing that you can illegally download a song because it uses a I-I=
V-V
> chord sequence. =A0I think it's just that naive.
>
> Consider the amount of work that goes into designing, tweaking,
> manufacturing, styling, distributing, marketing and maintaining a line of
> =A0effect pedals, and =A0the comparable amount of time and money spent
> arranging, recording, mixing, mastering, duplicating, packaging, marketin=
g
> an album.
>
> It may be flattering to think that people will steal your work because it=
's
> that good, but the bottom line is the bottom line. =A0 =A0In both cases t=
he
> parties involved intend to support themselves through their efforts, and =
the
> cynical thieves who help themselves to the work =A0justify their action b=
y
> devaluing the work, in essence blaming the victim.
>
> Food for thought,
>
> Chuck =A0Zwicky
>
>
>> Sorry I didn't see this post, I guess you got me on my conscience with
>> this one as I do feel slightly less comfortable knowing it was your
>> design. Congrats on that by the way it is great, I wish he would do a
>> vexter version though, i'd be all over it then.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net=
>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> =A0Well, =A0I designed the circuit. =A0I licensed it to Z-vex, =A0and I=
 think
>>> it's
>>> =A0unethical to steal. =A0Just because something is legal does not mean=
 it's
>>> =A0morally correct.
>>>
>>> =A0Karma indeed...
>>>
>>> =A0-Chuck Zwicky
>>>
>>>> =A0Unless Zvex holds a patent on this circuit it does not infringe upo=
n
>>>> =A0intellectual property.
>>>> =A0It may be in questionable taste, or even bad karma, but it isn't
>>>> illegal.
>>>> =A0Here's one of several web posts I found on the issue:
>>>>
>>>> =A0http://www.intelproplaw.com/Copyright/Forum/msg/385.shtml
>>>>
>>>> =A0"The copyright only protects the mode of expression, not the idea
>>>> embodied
>>>> =A0in it.
>>>> =A0Unless there is a patent involved you are free to make as much use =
of
>>>> the
>>>> =A0circuit
>>>> =A0as you want."
>>>>
>>>> =A0Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =A0-----Original Message-----
>>>> =A0From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net]
>>>> =A0Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:20 PM
>>>> =A0To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>> =A0Subject: Re: Bass players - what's a good stomp pedal for FAT tone?
>>>>
>>>> =A0It does infringe upon intellectual property, however, and as a
>>>> =A0musician you should respect that.
>>>>
>>>> =A0-Chuck Zwicky
>>>>
>>>>> =A0It's not thiervery, only PCB layouts can be copyrighted and at the=
 end
>>>>> =A0of the day most modern boutique pedals are simply clones with twea=
ks,
>>>>> =A0case in point the Malekko pedal I recommended which is a clone of =
the
>>>>> =A0Brassmaster but it would be way harder to build and if you get a
>>>>> =A0Germainium one source good trannys could be a pain.
>>>
>>>
>>> =A0--
>>>
>>> =A0...
>>> =A0http://www.zmix.net
>>>
>>> =A0http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
>
> ...
> http://www.zmix.net
>
> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
>
>

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Just a heads up for anybody in the region of Northern New Jersey - 
 
Stone Document will be playing the inaugural evening of the One Thousand
Pulses Home Concert Series this Saturday at 8 PM in Woodcliff Lake, New
Jersey.
 
More info at: http://onethousandpulses.wordpress.com/
 
This looks like it may be the ideal environment to hear us do our more
ambient stuff. Definitely a pleasant change from the rock club/wine bar
circuit.   And it could turn into a great venue for some of the more loopier
stuff out there.  I'll try and post a review of the venue after the gig.
 
m.c.
 
Mark Christensen
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That looks pretty cool.  Does it do varying hit strength?  Output MIDI?

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Aaron Leese <aaronleese@flyloops.com>wrote:

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> Just curious what people think about this:
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> Just finished the drums and probability matrices, looking for ideas.
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That looks pretty cool.=A0 Does it do varying hit strength?=A0 Output MIDI?=
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Just curious what people think about this:<br>
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Just finished the drums and probability matrices, looking for ideas.<br>
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Hi David,

I thought I would throw in my old hometown college radio staion, wrek, =
Atlanta, they are quite diverse and may be open to Undo. They are also =
on the net! http://www.wrek.org/

Best,

Jeff
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi -=20

  I'm not sure if this is something anyone has tried here before, so =
please excuse me if this is new. I've recently sent a number of UNDO =
CD's to a selection of college radio stations in the USA.  Reception has =
been pretty good so far, considering that college radio and ambient =
music typically don't go hand in hand.

  Here is a list of stations, by State:

  AK - Anchorage - KRUA

  AZ - Tempe - KASC=20

  CO - Denver - KRCX

  CT - Storrs - WHUS

  IN - Muncie - WCRD

  IN - Terre Haute - WMHD

  ME - East Orland - WERU-2

  ME - Farmington - WUMF

  ME - Lewiston - WRBC

  MI - Mt. Pleasant - WMHW

  NY - Dix Hills - WFTU=20

  NY - Fredonia - WCVF

  NY - Hamilton - WRCU

  NY - Oneonta - WONY

  OR - Gresham - KMHD2

  PA - Mansfield - WNTE

  PA - Millersville - WIXQ

  PA - Reading - WXAC

  TN - Sewanee - WUTS

  TX - College Station - KANM

  VA - Farmville - WMLU

  VA - Richmond - WDCE

  WA - Olympia - KAOS

  WI - Platteville - WSUP

  WI - Superior - KUWS

  =20

  If any of these stations are in your backyard, please could you =
request UNDO.  I know this might be tipping the scales a bit, but I =
would greatly appreciate your support if it's something you feel =
comfortable offering.  Thank you so much.

  =20

  Kind regards,

  =20

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a=20
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been=20
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  <DIV>Here is a list of stations, by State:</DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
size=3D3><FONT=20
  face=3DConsolas>TN - Sewanee - WUTS<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
size=3D3><FONT=20
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><STRONG>If =
any of these=20
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I would=20
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  offering.&nbsp; Thank you so much.</o:p></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p>Kind =
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
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I hadn't seen this posted but very cool, I guess Holdsworth didn't want to 
be fimed so Torn came in which just breaks my heart!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3vktICM8Fk


Jeff


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<html><body><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10=
pt;"><div>mic a speaker in the cab with a kick mic and blend it with the di=
rect signal.&nbsp; have a good amp (I use a passive fender jazz bass, trace=
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Subject: Bass players - what's a good stomp pedal for FAT tone?<br>
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Date: Wed, January 27, 2010 9:26 am<br>
To: Loopers-Delight &lt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt;<br>
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Any hints for an electric bass pedal to be used between bass and amp<br>
to fatten up the sound?<br>
Not interested in flanger or similar sissy stuff cause this bassist<br>
plays really good and we just need to blow it up massively for live<br>
work.<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
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I love all these people shooting footage with cams/phones and =
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We once had the idea to ask people to film us with their phones for a =
Live DVD and use that footage in the editing room.. Didn't worked out =
quiet well, but still think it's a great idea...

Cheers,

Reyn

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I read somewhere that David was filling in on just this one gig because Allan couldn't make it. 


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There are stuff with Alan on you tube as well (at least there were). I'm sort of happy since DT is my favorite guitar player and looper... 

> From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com 
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> I hadn't seen this posted but very cool, I guess Holdsworth didn't want to 
> be fimed so Torn came in which just breaks my heart! 
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU 
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There are stuff with&nbsp;Alan&nbsp;on you tube as well (at least&nbsp;there were). I'm sort of happy since DT is my favorite&nbsp;guitar player and looper...<br>&nbsp;<br>&gt; From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com<br>&gt; To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>&gt; Subject: David Torn,Terry Bozzio,Tony Levin,Pat Mastelotto NAMM 2010 <br>&gt; Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:20:21 -0500<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I hadn't seen this posted but very cool, I guess Holdsworth didn't want to <br>&gt; be fimed so Torn came in which just breaks my heart!<br>&gt; <br>&gt; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU<br>&gt; <br>&gt; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3vktICM8Fk<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Jeff<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br> 		 	   		  </div></body></html>
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I think I just soiled m'self.

Glad I didn't know about this beforehand as I can't afford the airfare (but
would have sold a kidney to be there).  It's probably too much to hope for a
tour.  Then again if it did happen we wouldn't know about it 'till after it
happened.

m.c. 

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I hadn't seen this posted but very cool, I guess Holdsworth didn't want to 
be fimed so Torn came in which just breaks my heart!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3vktICM8Fk


Jeff


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Yeah, it's mine.  Three year project at this point - it doesn't output  
midi, but it does receive midi so you can play samples with a  
controller.

Varying hit strength isn't implemented yet, but will be soon ....  
along with dynamic volume envelopes based on aftertouch/pressure midi  
signals.

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It's a shame 'cause as much as I love Holdsworth, this is so much more
interesting sonically and compositionally (to me anyways) than what AH was
doing with these guys.
 
m.c.


  _____  

From: eddrake1@comcast.net [mailto:eddrake1@comcast.net] 
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I read somewhere that David was filling in on just this one gig because
Allan couldn't make it.


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There are stuff with Alan on you tube as well (at least there were). I'm
sort of happy since DT is my favorite guitar player and looper...
 
> From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: David Torn,Terry Bozzio,Tony Levin,Pat Mastelotto NAMM 2010 
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:20:21 -0500
> 
> I hadn't seen this posted but very cool, I guess Holdsworth didn't want to

> be fimed so Torn came in which just breaks my heart!
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3vktICM8Fk
> 
> 
> Jeff
> 
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Subject: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
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Here's an update.  I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the looper is
running as the master BUT it falls out of sync after a couple minutes.  I'm
not sure whether its the looper, the info the looper is sending, the way the
mpc is receiving or the mpc unit.  This is so frustrating!

I tried out a 2880 but the problem is that I work in 6/4, 9/7 and other
weird times and the 2880 only does 4/4 time.  So I'm screwed!  I wish
someone could write a program for the RC50 so that it worked properly
because Boss may never do it.

Any other suggestions?  Any other loopers I should try?  The problem at this
point is money and availability of other units.  Does anyone run a similar
set up?

Is there a metronome with a midi out that I could use as a master clock to
run to both units so that I don't depend on the midi clock in either?   Will
that only mean that the RC50 won't accept it anyway!?!?!?


-- 
Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
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Here&#39;s an update.=A0 I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the loope=
r is running as the master BUT it falls out of sync after a couple minutes.=
=A0 I&#39;m not sure whether its the looper, the info the looper is sending=
, the way the mpc is receiving or the mpc unit.=A0 This is so frustrating!<=
br>
<br>I tried out a 2880 but the problem is that I work in 6/4, 9/7 and other=
 weird times and the 2880 only does 4/4 time.=A0 So I&#39;m screwed!=A0 I w=
ish someone could write a program for the RC50 so that it worked properly b=
ecause Boss may never do it.=A0 <br>
<br>Any other suggestions?=A0 Any other loopers I should try?=A0 The proble=
m at this point is money and availability of other units.=A0 Does anyone ru=
n a similar set up?<br><br>Is there a metronome with a midi out that I coul=
d use as a master clock to run to both units so that I don&#39;t depend on =
the midi clock in either?=A0=A0 Will that only mean that the RC50 won&#39;t=
 accept it anyway!?!?!?=A0 <br>
<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar<br>Oldfolks Home / Solom=
on Records Music<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic">ht=
tp://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.sonicbi=
ds.com/oldfolkshome">http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome</a><br>
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Update 2!  So now I have have the MPC as the master.  The click track on
both the MPC and RC50 as synced BUT when the sequence in the MPC comes in
it's off.  WAY off.  So maybe its not the looper?

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Oldfolks Home Music <
oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's an update.  I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the looper is
> running as the master BUT it falls out of sync after a couple minutes.  I'm
> not sure whether its the looper, the info the looper is sending, the way the
> mpc is receiving or the mpc unit.  This is so frustrating!
>
> I tried out a 2880 but the problem is that I work in 6/4, 9/7 and other
> weird times and the 2880 only does 4/4 time.  So I'm screwed!  I wish
> someone could write a program for the RC50 so that it worked properly
> because Boss may never do it.
>
> Any other suggestions?  Any other loopers I should try?  The problem at
> this point is money and availability of other units.  Does anyone run a
> similar set up?
>
> Is there a metronome with a midi out that I could use as a master clock to
> run to both units so that I don't depend on the midi clock in either?   Will
> that only mean that the RC50 won't accept it anyway!?!?!?
>
>
> --
> Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
> Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
> http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
> http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome
>
>


-- 
Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
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 it&#39;s off.=A0 WAY off.=A0 So maybe its not the looper?=A0 <br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Oldfolks Home Music <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com">oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border=
-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-lef=
t: 1ex;">
Here&#39;s an update.=A0 I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the loope=
r is running as the master BUT it falls out of sync after a couple minutes.=
=A0 I&#39;m not sure whether its the looper, the info the looper is sending=
, the way the mpc is receiving or the mpc unit.=A0 This is so frustrating!<=
br>

<br>I tried out a 2880 but the problem is that I work in 6/4, 9/7 and other=
 weird times and the 2880 only does 4/4 time.=A0 So I&#39;m screwed!=A0 I w=
ish someone could write a program for the RC50 so that it worked properly b=
ecause Boss may never do it.=A0 <br>

<br>Any other suggestions?=A0 Any other loopers I should try?=A0 The proble=
m at this point is money and availability of other units.=A0 Does anyone ru=
n a similar set up?<br><br>Is there a metronome with a midi out that I coul=
d use as a master clock to run to both units so that I don&#39;t depend on =
the midi clock in either?=A0=A0 Will that only mean that the RC50 won&#39;t=
 accept it anyway!?!?!?=A0 <br>
<font color=3D"#888888">
<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar<br>Oldfolks Home / Solom=
on Records Music<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic</a><br><a href=3D"=
http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sonicbi=
ds.com/oldfolkshome</a><br>

<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ricardo Lopez-Ag=
uilar<br>Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music<br><a href=3D"http://www.mys=
pace.com/oldfolkshomemusic">http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic</a><br=
>
<a href=3D"http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome">http://www.sonicbids.com/=
oldfolkshome</a><br><br>

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I am Lady Sylvia StrÃ¶her suffering from cancerous ailment.
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I am Lady Sylvia StrÃ¶her suffering from cancerous ailment.
I am married to Lord Stroher,a German shipping tycoon notable
for his great wealth,influential extended family,and charitable
activities all his life before his death.Our life together as man
and wife lasted for three decades without child.My husband died
after a protracted illness in August 22,2007.My husband and I made
a vow to uplift the down-trodden and the less-privileged individuals
as he had passion for persons who can not help themselves due to
physical disability or financial predicament.I can adduce this to
the fact that he needed a Child from this relationship,which never
came.

When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of 20.000.000.00
(Twenty Million Great Britain Pounds Sterling) which were derived from his
vast estates and investment in capital market with his bank in United
Kingdom and named me as the beneficiary of this trust fund.
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most is the stroke that I have in addition to the cancer.
With this hard reality that has befallen my family,and me I have
decided to donate this fund to you and want you to use this gift
which comes from my husbands effort to fund the upkeep of widows,
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children,barren-women and persons who prove to be genuinely
handicapped financially.

It is often said that blessed is the hand that giveth. I took this
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money and my husband relatives are bourgeois and very wealthy
persons and I do not want my husband's hard earned money to be
misused or invested into ill perceived ventures.I do not want a
situation where this money will be used in a worldly manner, hence
the reason for taking this bold decision.I am not afraid of death
hence I know where I am going.I do not need any telephone
communication in this regard due to my deteriorating health and
because of the presence of my husbands relatives around me as
i am currently bed ridden in the Family house here in Darmstadt, Germany.

and do not receive any visitors unless approved
by Huwer Stroher who is the immediate younger brother to my late
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to safeguard this bequest.I will also authorise my Private Attorney
in the UK whom i communicate with via emails all the time,to issue
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Barrister Jones Shealy
Email: j.heall@gmail.com
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Tell him that I have WILLED the said sum to you and the reason for
doing this is best known to me.My happiness is that I lived a life
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Your's Sincerely
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Nice work. What a great concept.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Aaron Leese <aaronleese@flyloops.com> wrot=
e:
>
>
> Yeah, it's mine. =A0Three year project at this point - it doesn't output =
midi,
> but it does receive midi so you can play samples with a controller.
>
> Varying hit strength isn't implemented yet, but will be soon .... along w=
ith
> dynamic volume envelopes based on aftertouch/pressure midi signals.
>
>

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GHAYTH FAIZA WATSON.
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England.

Here writes Ghayth Faiza, suffering from cancerous ailment. I am married
to Watson Ghayth an Arabian who is dead. My husband was into private
practice all his life before his death.

Our life together as man and wife lasted for three decades without a
child. My husband died after a protracted illness. My husband and I made
a vow to uplift the down-trodden and the less-privileged individuals as
he had passion for persons who can not help themselves due to physical
disability or financial predicament.

I can adduce this to the fact that he needed a Child from this
relationship,which never came. When my late husband was alive he
deposited the sum of Two Million Great Britain Pounds Sterling which were
derived from his vast estates and investment in capital market with his
bank here in UK. Presently, this money is still with the Bank.

Recently, my Doctor told me that I have limited days to live due to the
cancerous problems I am suffering from.Though what bothers me most is the
stroke that I have in addition to the cancer.

With this hard reality that has be fallen my family and i,I have decided
to donate this fund to you and want you to use this gift which comes from
my husbands effort to fund the upkeep of widows, widowers,
orphans,destitute, the down-trodden, physically challenged children,
barren-women and persons who prove to be genuinely handicapped
financially.

It is often said that blessed is the hand that giveth. I took this
decision because I do not have any child that will inherit this money and
my husband relatives are bourgeois and very wealthy persons and I do not
want my husband's hard earned money to be misused or invested into ill
perceived ventures.

I do not want a situation where this money will be used in an ungodly
manner, hence the reason for taking this bold decision. I am not afraid
of death hence I know where I am going.I know that I am going to be with
the Almighty when I eventually pass on.It is often said that blessed is
the hand that giveth.

I took this decision because I do not have any child that will inherit
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and I do not want my husband's hard earned money to be misused or
invested into ill perceive dventures.

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manner, hence the reason for taking this bold decision. I am not afraid
of death hence I know where I am going. I know that I am going to be with
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and I shall hold my peace.

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With God all things are possible.As soon as I receive your reply I shall
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I will also issue you a Letter of Authority that will empower you as the
original beneficiary of this fund. My happiness is that I lived a life
worthy of emulation.
Please always be prayerful all through your life.Please assure me that
you will act just as I have stated herein.

Hope to hear from you soon and God bless you and members of your family.




Yours Faithfully in Christ
Ghayth Faiza watson.

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It's been a fascinating discussion about physical product. Still 
formulating my own views, but I have found that people do still buy CD's 
at gigs, and musicians do want to trade them, so I'll continue making them.

For an example of a physical product that is so lovely it makes me want 
to own it, this is something that just arrived in my inbox: pix of the 
Mermen's new release (band of Jim Thomas who appeared at the last 
Loopfest, and one of my very favorite guitar operators).

http://mermen.net/images/IGWT_liner_artwork.jpg

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

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Greetings,

 I understand that through Internet is not the best way to link up with you because of the confidentiality which my proposal demands.

However, I have already sent you this same letter one month ago,but I am not sure if it did get to you since I have not heard from you, hence i am constrain to reach you through the Internet which has been abused over the years. 

 I wish to notify you again that You were listed as a Heir to the total sum of (Three Million Six Hundred Thousand British Pounds) in the codicil and last testament of the deceased.(Name now withheld since this is our second letter to you). We contacted you because you bear the surname identity and therefore can present you as the Heir to the inheritance funds.

 Please indicate your interest immediately for us to proceed. I shall feed you with full details of this transaction upon receipt of your reply towards this proposal. 

 All the legal papers will be processed in your acceptance. In your acceptance of this deal, we request that you kindly forward to us your letter of acceptance; your current telephone and fax numbers and a forwarding address to enable us file necessary documents at our high court probate division for the release of this sum of money.

 I look forward to hearing from you.

 
Mr. Ben Mark (Barrister)
Telephone + 44 7024 022 726

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Subject: Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
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the 9/7 was a typo.  I meant 9/8.  Moving on.  I FIGURED IT OUT!  Kind of.
Although it means a little extra work.  Heres what I did...

MPC -Master
RC50 - Slave

On each machine set the desired tempo.  This must be set on both machines or
it will not work.  Then set the MIDI SYNC under the SYSTEM tab on the RC50
to REMOTE.  The MPC should be set to output MIDI CLOCK on whatever midi out
you pick.

When you press PLAY on the MPC the looper will start automatically, but it
won't take the tempo (that's why you set and save it in the patch!).  The
problem here is that the looper starts recording immediately (which blows)
so you either have to start the loop right away or set the first phrase to
auto-overdub.  In the later situation, you essentially record an empty loop
the length of loop you want to record, then after pressing the PLAY / RECORD
pedal, when the "loop" is on it's "second" pass you start recording the real
loop.

it means that before you start every song with both machines, that you have
a count-in the length of your first loop.  What a bitch.  But it works, it
stays in sync.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:38 AM, <folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net> wrote:

> Hello
>
> No such thing as 9/7. If one gadget only does 4/4 then write everything in
> 4/4 & count as hemiola or get another gadget that has more time signiture
> options.
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> ------------------------------
> *From: * Oldfolks Home Music <oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:54:45 -0600
> *To: *<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> *Subject: *Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
>
> Here's an update.  I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the looper is
> running as the master BUT it falls out of sync after a couple minutes.  I'm
> not sure whether its the looper, the info the looper is sending, the way the
> mpc is receiving or the mpc unit.  This is so frustrating!
>
> I tried out a 2880 but the problem is that I work in 6/4, 9/7 and other
> weird times and the 2880 only does 4/4 time.  So I'm screwed!  I wish
> someone could write a program for the RC50 so that it worked properly
> because Boss may never do it.
>
> Any other suggestions?  Any other loopers I should try?  The problem at
> this point is money and availability of other units.  Does anyone run a
> similar set up?
>
> Is there a metronome with a midi out that I could use as a master clock to
> run to both units so that I don't depend on the midi clock in either?   Will
> that only mean that the RC50 won't accept it anyway!?!?!?
>
>
> --
> Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
> Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
> http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
> http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome
>
>


-- 
Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome




-- 
Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
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http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome

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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br>the 9/7 was a typo.=A0 I meant 9/8.=A0 M=
oving on.=A0 I FIGURED IT OUT!=A0 Kind of.=A0 Although it means a little ex=
tra work.=A0 Heres what I did...<br><br>MPC -Master<br>RC50 - Slave<br><br>=
On each machine set the desired tempo.=A0 This must be set on both machines=
 or it will not work.=A0 Then set the MIDI SYNC under the SYSTEM tab on the=
 RC50 to REMOTE.=A0 The MPC should be set to output MIDI CLOCK on whatever =
midi out you pick.=A0 <br>

<br>When you press PLAY on the MPC the looper will start automatically, but=
 it won&#39;t take the tempo (that&#39;s why you set and save it in the pat=
ch!).=A0 The problem here is that the looper starts recording immediately (=
which blows)=A0 so you either have to start the loop right away or set the =
first phrase to auto-overdub.=A0 In the later situation, you essentially re=
cord an empty loop the length of loop you want to record, then after pressi=
ng the PLAY / RECORD pedal, when the &quot;loop&quot; is on it&#39;s &quot;=
second&quot; pass you start recording the real loop.=A0 <br>

<br>it means that before you start every song with both machines, that you =
have a count-in the length of your first loop.=A0 What a bitch.=A0 But it w=
orks, it stays in sync.=A0 <br><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:38 AM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net" target=3D"_blank">folkstone57@tmo.blackberr=
y.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">   Hello<br><br>N=
o such thing as 9/7. If one gadget only does 4/4 then write everything in 4=
/4 &amp; count as hemiola or get another gadget that has more time signitur=
e options. <div>

<p>Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile</p><hr><div><b>From: </b> Oldfolks Hom=
e Music &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;
</div></div><div><b>Date: </b>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:54:45 -0600</div><div><di=
v><b>To: </b>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;</div>
</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!</div><div>=
<div></div><div><div><br></div>Here&#39;s an update.=A0 I got the RC50 to s=
ync with the MPC when the looper is running as the master BUT it falls out =
of sync after a couple minutes.=A0 I&#39;m not sure whether its the looper,=
 the info the looper is sending, the way the mpc is receiving or the mpc un=
it.=A0 This is so frustrating!<br>


<br>I tried out a 2880 but the problem is that I work in 6/4, 9/7 and other=
 weird times and the 2880 only does 4/4 time.=A0 So I&#39;m screwed!=A0 I w=
ish someone could write a program for the RC50 so that it worked properly b=
ecause Boss may never do it.=A0 <br>


<br>Any other suggestions?=A0 Any other loopers I should try?=A0 The proble=
m at this point is money and availability of other units.=A0 Does anyone ru=
n a similar set up?<br><br>Is there a metronome with a midi out that I coul=
d use as a master clock to run to both units so that I don&#39;t depend on =
the midi clock in either?=A0=A0 Will that only mean that the RC50 won&#39;t=
 accept it anyway!?!?!?=A0 <br>


<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar<br>Oldfolks Home / Solom=
on Records Music<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic</a><br><a href=3D"=
http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sonicbi=
ds.com/oldfolkshome</a><br>


<br>

</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ricardo Lop=
ez-Aguilar<br>Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music<br><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic" target=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/o=
ldfolkshomemusic</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome</a><br><br>
</div></div></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar<br=
>Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com=
/oldfolkshomemusic">http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome">http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolk=
shome</a><br>
<br>

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Mark hey.  I setup a Facebook group a while back called Eastern USA Loopers
for networking purposes among those of us on the list (and beyond) in the
eastern States.  A) you can join if you'd like and post this gig on the wall
and b) if you think it's a venue opening to
experimental/ambient/improv/looping based stuff you can comment more about
that possibly add to a discussion there.

In theory this is the 'public' link but not certain of that,
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=228256868467&ref=mf

I realize you may have no interest in this but from you describing the poss
of this venue being open to others I thought it was worth rementioning this.

Best with your gig


Jim


On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:28 AM, murkie <sinister_footwear@yahoo.com> wrote:

>  Just a heads up for anybody in the region of Northern New Jersey -
>
> Stone Document will be playing the inaugural evening of the One Thousand
> Pulses Home Concert Series this Saturday at 8 PM in Woodcliff Lake, New
> Jersey.
>
> More info at: http://onethousandpulses.wordpress.com/
>
> This looks like it may be the ideal environment to hear us do our more
> ambient stuff. Definitely a pleasant change from the rock club/wine bar
> circuit.   And it could turn into a great venue for some of the more loopier
> stuff out there.  I'll try and post a review of the venue after the gig.
>
>  m.c.
>
>  Mark Christensen
> www.TwistedAppleRecords.com <http://www.twistedapplerecords.com/>
> tinyurl.com/MarkChristensen
> www.stonedocumentmusic.com
>
>



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www.chinapaintingmusic.com
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www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
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Mark hey.=A0 I setup a Facebook group a while back called Eastern USA Loope=
rs for networking purposes among those of us on the list (and beyond) in th=
e eastern States.=A0 A) you can join if you&#39;d like and post this gig on=
 the wall and b) if you think it&#39;s a venue opening to experimental/ambi=
ent/improv/looping based stuff you can comment more about that possibly add=
 to a discussion there.<br>
<br>In theory this is the &#39;public&#39; link but not certain of that, <a=
 href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=3D228256868467&am=
p;ref=3Dmf">http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=3D228256868467=
&amp;ref=3Dmf</a><br>
<br>I realize you may have no interest in this but from you describing the =
poss of this venue being open to others I thought it was worth rementioning=
 this.<br><br>Best with your gig<br><br><br>Jim<br><br><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:28 AM, murkie <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:sinister_footwear@yahoo.com">sinister_footwear@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">




<div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span>Just a heads up for=20
anybody in the region of Northern New Jersey - </span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span>Stone Document will=20
be playing the inaugural evening of the One Thousand Pulses Home Concert Se=
ries=20
this Saturday at 8 PM in Woodcliff Lake, New Jersey.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span>More info at: <a href=3D"http://=
onethousandpulses.wordpress.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://onethousandpulse=
s.wordpress.com/</a></span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span>This looks like it=20
may be the ideal environment to hear us do our more ambient=20
stuff.=A0Definitely a pleasant change from the rock club/wine bar=20
circuit.=A0 =A0And it could turn into a great venue for some of the more=20
loopier stuff out there.=A0 I&#39;ll try and post a review of the venue aft=
er the=20
gig.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left">
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font color=3D"#000080" face=3D"Arial" size=
=3D"2"><span>m.c.</span></font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font color=3D"#000080" face=3D"Arial" size=
=3D"2"><span></span></font>=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font color=3D"#000080" face=3D"Arial" size=
=3D"2"><span>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D"2">Ma=
rk=20
Christensen</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D"2"><a=
 href=3D"http://www.twistedapplerecords.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.Twisted=
AppleRecords.com</a></font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><a href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/MarkChristens=
en" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Centu=
ry Gothic"><font color=3D"#3b5998"><span>tinyurl.com/MarkChr</span><span></=
span></font>istensen</font></font></a></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D"2"><a=
 href=3D"http://www.stonedocumentmusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.stonedoc=
umentmusic.com</a></font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0<=
/div></span></font></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.c=
om/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusi=
c.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
<br>

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Yeah, and the music is fantastic too.  Triple exclamation points from me.

I love the Mermen, yes I do.

Kevin

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote
>
> For an example of a physical product that is so lovely it makes me want to
> own it, this is something that just arrived in my inbox: pix of the Mermen's
> new release (band of Jim Thomas who appeared at the last Loopfest, and one
> of my very favorite guitar operators).
>
> http://mermen.net/images/IGWT_liner_artwork.jpg
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(facepalm)
D'oh!  I'm already a member, just totaly forgot!
 
Thanks for jiggling the lose memory wires.
 
m.c.


  _____  

From: Jim Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:31 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Northern New Jersey Ambient Gig


Mark hey.  I setup a Facebook group a while back called Eastern USA Loopers
for networking purposes among those of us on the list (and beyond) in the
eastern States.  A) you can join if you'd like and post this gig on the wall
and b) if you think it's a venue opening to
experimental/ambient/improv/looping based stuff you can comment more about
that possibly add to a discussion there.

In theory this is the 'public' link but not certain of that,
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=228256868467
<http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=228256868467&ref=mf>
&ref=mf

I realize you may have no interest in this but from you describing the poss
of this venue being open to others I thought it was worth rementioning this.

Best with your gig


Jim



On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:28 AM, murkie <sinister_footwear@yahoo.com> wrote:


Just a heads up for anybody in the region of Northern New Jersey - 
 
Stone Document will be playing the inaugural evening of the One Thousand
Pulses Home Concert Series this Saturday at 8 PM in Woodcliff Lake, New
Jersey.
 
More info at: http://onethousandpulses.wordpress.com/
 
This looks like it may be the ideal environment to hear us do our more
ambient stuff. Definitely a pleasant change from the rock club/wine bar
circuit.   And it could turn into a great venue for some of the more loopier
stuff out there.  I'll try and post a review of the venue after the gig.
 
m.c.
 

Mark Christensen
www.TwistedAppleRecords.com <http://www.twistedapplerecords.com/> 
 <http://tinyurl.com/MarkChristensen> tinyurl.com/MarkChristensen
www.stonedocumentmusic.com <http://www.stonedocumentmusic.com/> 
 




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<DIV><SPAN class=3D493350121-28012010><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D493350121-28012010><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D493350121-28012010><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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ideal=20
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pleasant=20
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turn=20
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there.&nbsp; I'll=20
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gig.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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You're welcome I too had not checked the roster for you, just was putting
the word out as a refresh, anyhow any area gigs related to the east are fine
to post...

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:03 PM, murkie <sinister_footwear@yahoo.com> wrote:

>  (facepalm)
> D'oh!  I'm already a member, just totaly forgot!
>
> Thanks for jiggling the lose memory wires.
>
> m.c.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Jim Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:31 PM
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Subject:* Re: Northern New Jersey Ambient Gig
>
> Mark hey.  I setup a Facebook group a while back called Eastern USA Loopers
> for networking purposes among those of us on the list (and beyond) in the
> eastern States.  A) you can join if you'd like and post this gig on the wall
> and b) if you think it's a venue opening to
> experimental/ambient/improv/looping based stuff you can comment more about
> that possibly add to a discussion there.
>
> In theory this is the 'public' link but not certain of that,
> http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=228256868467&ref=mf
>
> I realize you may have no interest in this but from you describing the poss
> of this venue being open to others I thought it was worth rementioning this.
>
> Best with your gig
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:28 AM, murkie <sinister_footwear@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>  Just a heads up for anybody in the region of Northern New Jersey -
>>
>> Stone Document will be playing the inaugural evening of the One Thousand
>> Pulses Home Concert Series this Saturday at 8 PM in Woodcliff Lake, New
>> Jersey.
>>
>> More info at: http://onethousandpulses.wordpress.com/
>>
>> This looks like it may be the ideal environment to hear us do our more
>> ambient stuff. Definitely a pleasant change from the rock club/wine bar
>> circuit.   And it could turn into a great venue for some of the more loopier
>> stuff out there.  I'll try and post a review of the venue after the gig.
>>
>>  m.c.
>>
>>  Mark Christensen
>> www.TwistedAppleRecords.com <http://www.twistedapplerecords.com/>
>> tinyurl.com/MarkChristensen
>> www.stonedocumentmusic.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>


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www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

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fine to post...<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4=
:03 PM, murkie <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sinister_footwear@ya=
hoo.com">sinister_footwear@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div>
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nt></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">D&#39;oh!=A0 I=
&#39;m already a member, just totaly=20
forgot!</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font></span>=
=A0</div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Thanks=20
for jiggling the lose memory wires.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font></span>=
=A0</div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">m.c.</font></s=
pan></div><br>
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  <hr>
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  [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jim=
goodinmusic@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 28, 2010=20
  1:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br><b>Subject=
:</b>=20
  Re: Northern New Jersey Ambient Gig<br></font><br></div><div><div></div><=
div class=3D"h5">
  <div></div>Mark hey.=A0 I setup a Facebook group a while back called=20
  Eastern USA Loopers for networking purposes among those of us on the list=
 (and=20
  beyond) in the eastern States.=A0 A) you can join if you&#39;d like and p=
ost=20
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t=20
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9;public&#39;=20
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?#/group.php?gid=3D228256868467&amp;ref=3Dmf" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=3D228256868467&amp;ref=3Dmf</a><br><b=
r>I=20
  realize you may have no interest in this but from you describing the poss=
 of=20
  this venue being open to others I thought it was worth rementioning=20
  this.<br><br>Best with your gig<br><br><br>Jim<br><br><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:28 AM, murkie <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sinister_footwear@yahoo.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">sinister_footwear@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span>=20
  wrote:<br>
  <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0=
pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
    <div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span>Just a heads up for anybody =
in the region=20
    of Northern New Jersey - </span></font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span>Stone Document will be playi=
ng the=20
    inaugural evening of the One Thousand Pulses Home Concert Series this=
=20
    Saturday at 8 PM in Woodcliff Lake, New Jersey.</span></font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span>More info at: <a href=3D"htt=
p://onethousandpulses.wordpress.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://onethousandp=
ulses.wordpress.com/</a></span></font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span>This looks like it may be th=
e ideal=20
    environment to hear us do our more ambient stuff.=A0Definitely a pleasa=
nt=20
    change from the rock club/wine bar circuit.=A0 =A0And it could turn=20
    into a great venue for some of the more loopier stuff out there.=A0 I&#=
39;ll=20
    try and post a review of the venue after the gig.</span></font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left">
    <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font color=3D"#000080" face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"><span>m.c.</span></font></div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font color=3D"#000080" face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=A0</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font color=3D"#000080" face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"><span>
    <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D"2=
">Mark=20
    Christensen</font></div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D"2=
"><a href=3D"http://www.twistedapplerecords.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.Twi=
stedAppleRecords.com</a></font></div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><a href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/MarkChris=
tensen" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"C=
entury Gothic"><font color=3D"#3b5998"><span>tinyurl.com/MarkChr</span><spa=
n></span></font>istensen</font></font></a></div>

    <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D"2=
"><a href=3D"http://www.stonedocumentmusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ston=
edocumentmusic.com</a></font></div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=
=A0</div></span></font></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=
=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.myspace.com/CtReUse" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a>=
<br>
<br>music=20
  links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">w=
ww.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.m=
yspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/ji=
mgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelec=
tro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=
=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>video=20
  work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" targ=
et=3D"_blank">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social=20
  networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=
=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br></div></div></blockqu=
ote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.c=
om/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusi=
c.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
<br>

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not to overshadow those clips at all but also found this Torn video from
2008 that's pretty neat as well.  I first thought the other one didn't have
his Tufenfeld( wrong sspelling I knowing) guitar as he does in the UK clip
but I"m incorrect.  That's a neat guitar and a cool builder.  I met him and
saw his work at the last NAMM show I attended in 2008, love his instruments
.  I just tried googling him but can't remember spelling of his name, anyone
remember, Rainer maybe?

 Anyhow here is the clip from Leeds,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KngIToOA1E&feature=related

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Anders Bergdahl <
anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  WOW; WOW - WOW to good to be comprehended - David Torn is so amazing, and
> what a band. I think David is more intresting than Allan with these guys...
> WOW again.....
>
> > From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: David Torn,Terry Bozzio,Tony Levin,Pat Mastelotto NAMM 2010
> > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:20:21 -0500
> >
> > I hadn't seen this posted but very cool, I guess Holdsworth didn't want
> to
> > be fimed so Torn came in which just breaks my heart!
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3vktICM8Fk
> >
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
>



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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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not to overshadow those clips at all but also found this Torn video from 20=
08 that&#39;s pretty neat as well.=A0 I first thought the other one didn&#3=
9;t have his Tufenfeld( wrong sspelling I knowing) guitar as he does in the=
 UK clip but I&quot;m incorrect.=A0 That&#39;s a neat guitar and a cool bui=
lder.=A0 I met him and saw his work at the last NAMM show I attended in 200=
8, love his instruments .=A0 I just tried googling him but can&#39;t rememb=
er spelling of his name, anyone remember, Rainer maybe?=A0 <br>
<br>=A0Anyhow here is the clip from Leeds, <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.co=
m/watch?v=3D0KngIToOA1E&amp;feature=3Drelated">http://www.youtube.com/watch=
?v=3D0KngIToOA1E&amp;feature=3Drelated</a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Anders Bergdahl <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com">anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



<div>
WOW; WOW - WOW to good to be comprehended - David Torn is so amazing, and w=
hat a band. I think David is more intresting than Allan with these guys...<=
br>
WOW again..... <br><div class=3D"im">=A0<br>&gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:je=
ff_d@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</a><br>&gt; To=
: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">=
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
&gt; Subject: David Torn,Terry Bozzio,Tony Levin,Pat Mastelotto NAMM 2010 <=
br>&gt; Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:20:21 -0500<br>&gt; <br></div><div><div><=
/div><div class=3D"h5">&gt; I hadn&#39;t seen this posted but very cool, I =
guess Holdsworth didn&#39;t want to <br>
&gt; be fimed so Torn came in which just breaks my heart!<br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeQGF26W0qPU" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeQGF26W0qPU</a><br>&gt; <br>&gt; <a href=
=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-3vktICM8Fk" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-3vktICM8Fk</a><br>
&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Jeff<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br> 		 	   		  </div></div></=
div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.c=
om/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusi=
c.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
<br>

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On Jan 28, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

> I just tried googling him but can't remember spelling of his name,  
> anyone remember


Teuffel methinks.

http://www.teuffelguitars



BobC

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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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at 2:17 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:</div><br =
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-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">I just tried googling him but =
can't remember spelling of his name, anyone =
remember</span></blockquote><br></div><br><div>Teuffel =
methinks.</div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.teuffelguitars">http://www.teuffelguitars</a></div><div=
><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>BobC</div><div><br></div><di=
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margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal 'Lucida =
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a></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
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Bob bingo, that's it thanks, it actually DNS's to
http://www.teuffel.com/but nonetheless thanks...

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:26 PM, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Jan 28, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:
>
> I just tried googling him but can't remember spelling of his name, anyone
> remember
>
>
>
> Teuffel methinks.
>
> http://www.teuffelguitars
>
>
>
> BobC
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j
> http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5
> http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego
>
>


-- 
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www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Bob bingo, that&#39;s it thanks, it actually DNS&#39;s to <a href=3D"http:/=
/www.teuffel.com/">http://www.teuffel.com/</a> but nonetheless thanks...<br=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:26 PM, RP Collier=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:skeptikalist@gmail.com">skeptikali=
st@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"wor=
d-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"im"><br><div><div>On Jan 28, 2010, at 2:=
17 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"border-collapse: separate; col=
or: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: no=
rmal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; li=
ne-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: nor=
mal; word-spacing: 0px;">I just tried googling him but can&#39;t remember s=
pelling of his name, anyone remember</span></blockquote>
<br></div><br></div><div>Teuffel methinks.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=
=3D"http://www.teuffelguitars" target=3D"_blank">http://www.teuffelguitars<=
/a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>BobC</div><div><=
br>
</div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j=
" target=3D"_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j</a></div><div style=3D"margin=
: 0px; min-height: 13px;"><a href=3D"http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5</a></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px; min-height: 13px;"><a href=3D"http://www.youtube=
.com/user/tynego" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego</a><=
/div><div><font face=3D"&#39;Lucida Grande&#39;" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 11px;"><br>
</span></font></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><b=
r>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.my=
space.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
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WANT.


Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

> Bob bingo, that's it thanks, it actually DNS's to 
> http://www.teuffel.com/ but nonetheless thanks...

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if I weren't up to my ears in instruments and doing too many as it is I'd
WANT as well particularly his models that look like tubular bells, that and
a Stick, oh well I WANT anyway!

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

> WANT.
>
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>
>  Bob bingo, that's it thanks, it actually DNS's to http://www.teuffel.com/but nonetheless thanks...
>>
>
>


-- 
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www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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if I weren&#39;t up to my ears in instruments and doing too many as it is I=
&#39;d WANT as well particularly his models that look like tubular bells, t=
hat and a Stick, oh well I WANT anyway!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Daryl Shawn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com">highhorse@mhorse.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(2=
04, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
WANT.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
<br>
Daryl Shawn<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.swanwelder.com" target=3D"_blank">www.swanwelder.com<=
/a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapa=
intingmusic.com</a></font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Bob bingo, that&#39;s it thanks, it actually DNS&#39;s to <a href=3D"http:/=
/www.teuffel.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.teuffel.com/</a> but noneth=
eless thanks...<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an i=
ntrospective textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">w=
ww.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.j=
imgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
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<br>

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On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 2:38 AM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
> NPR's All Things Considered featured a tune which was written for me and
> which I play regularly and produced for a recently issued New World
> Recording.
> It is the third part of the segment featured at this link:
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122857456


Very inspiring piece! Enjoyed it tremendously.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Just to pitch in again,=0Aive noticed that ever since i buy digital downloa=
ds i dont know the names of the band members or who plays what like i used =
to,or the sequence and name of the songs or the look or concept of the band=
 since i usually dont look closely at the cover that my Ipod portrays,i hav=
e bad eyes so that makes it even more difficult...=0AIt seems nowdays i hav=
e so much cramed in my ipod that i dont even have time to sort it out or ev=
en make playlists... most of the time i just turn it on and let it play and=
 if i like something i do try to look for the information to know who that =
is.=0AThe main advantage i see of all of this is comfort to make us lazy pe=
ople buy easier really...and i wonder if part of the issue is really enviro=
mental though...we are contaminating the world more than ever nowdays with =
all the technology available to have a cleaner world...hell nowdays you can=
 get everything through the net,why leave the house have social contact and=
 put up with people right? who needs that shit...;-)=0Abut i wonder what wo=
uld happen if an earthquake hit us and puts out all the lights and wipes ou=
t everything,bet we gonna be singing and making music like brothers togethe=
r again;-)=0A=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- tyler ne=
wman <tyler@batterycage.com> schrieb am Mi, 27.1.2010:=0A=0A> Von: tyler ne=
wman <tyler@batterycage.com>=0A> Betreff: Re: Brian Eno about recorded musi=
c=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Mittwoch, 27. Janu=
ar 2010, 23:59=0A> hi-=0A> =0A> Part of my beef with the way things are cur=
rently, =A0is=0A> exactly that we can=A0live in micro niche's musically=0A>=
 because of the ways that Amazon, Ebay,=0A> Pandor and other entities keep =
recommending things that are=0A> like what we=A0have liked in the past. =A0=
I'm all=0A> for resonance, but:=0A> =0A> I remember when underground FM rad=
io first started in the=0A> hippy days in=A0Northern California=A0that you =
could=0A> listen to a DJ play Odetta, =A0the Doors,=0A> =A0=A0Joni Mitchell=
=0A> andthen=0A> Ravi Shankar=A0on the same program. =A0There was a=0A> sen=
se that you could discover new=A0worlds, musically at=0A> that time.=0A> =
=0A> well, i totally understand what=0A> you're saying here. it's important=
 to not let the=0A> recommendation algorithms be the ONLY source of musical=
=0A> suggestion. there's still no substitute for doing your=0A> own legwork=
, and digging up new sounds on your own.=0A> personally, i listen to a very=
 wide range of musical styles,=0A> so the algorithms keep things fairly div=
erse for me...but if=0A> i went solely on their suggestions, i would indeed=
 drive=0A> myself into a corner fairly quickly. it's all about the=0A> inpu=
t that you feed it.=0A> to be honest, i'm not old enough to remember=0A> br=
oadcast radio as anything but corporate hits (i kind of=0A> came of age wit=
h radio in the 80's, and my parents had=0A> pretty mainsteam taste). and "k=
ids today" are even=0A> less so. the vast majority of broadcast radio stati=
ons are=0A> playing the same songs, at the same times, in all markets.=0A> =
there's no diversity whatsoever, it exists solely on the=0A> internet. i wo=
uld LOVE it if broadcast radio could be the=0A> wildly diverse spectrum of =
music that pandora can be. but we=0A> all know that's just not going to hap=
pen. playlists that=0A> include sigur ros, britney spears, cannibal corpse,=
 arto=0A> lindsey, front 242, and shostakovich within one hour may=0A> work=
 in MY house, but there's no commercial upside for=0A> that in reality :) =
=A0so for most people, whether we like=0A> it or not, the internet IS that =
new frontier...it's up=0A> to the listeners drive to explore that defines t=
heir=0A> experience.=0A> Lately,=0A> =A0I find that the kids that I teach k=
now only specific=0A> genres of=A0music and frequently , aren't interested=
=0A> in other kinds of music at all. =A0=0A> This makes for some shredding=
=A0speed metal and punk=0A> drummers, I'll have to admit, but there seems t=
o be=0A> a=A0mono fixated quality to their listening and playing=0A> habits=
.=0A> =0A> in a lot of ways, it's the=0A> dividing line between people who =
truly appreciate music, and=0A> passive listeners. passive listeners are pe=
ople who listen=0A> to broadcast radio, and generally are responsible for=
=0A> driving the success of the huge commercial acts. they're=0A> spoonfed =
easily digested music, and are satisfied with it.=0A> they don't go digging=
 into obscure musics, or into=0A> individual artists backcatalogues or anyt=
hing like that.=0A> music is a background aspect of their lives, a soundtra=
ck to=0A> their daily grind.=A0=0A> someone who really gives a shit about m=
usic,=0A> especially musicians, are doing themselves an extreme=0A> disserv=
ice by focusing solely on any one style or genre.=0A> it's one thing to hav=
e a deep appreciation for something=0A> and a true depth of knowledge about=
 it, but it's sort of=0A> akin to only ever eating steak and potatoes. the =
kids that=0A> you mention will probably eventually give up on creating=0A> =
their own music because their lack of passion doesn't=0A> allow them to eve=
r gain any deeper understanding of music as=0A> a cultural ideal (that is t=
o say, something that can be=0A> appreciated across a variety of stylistic=
=0A> choices).=0A> Additionally,=0A> =A0they don't have any concept of long=
er forms of=0A> music. =A0They never listen to an artist's albums=0A> becau=
se they are always purchasing=0A> single songs on iTunes. =A0=A0I frequentl=
y=0A> get,=A0"Jimi Hendrix? =A0=A0=A0What songs=0A> does he do?" =A0=A0=A0I=
 have to admit that I=0A> can't=A0remember all the song=0A> titles on the w=
onderful Electric Ladyland double album but=0A> try to convince=A0them that=
 they are missing something if=0A> they are only playing his=0A> 'greatest =
hits' and not experience how he, as an=0A> artist created this=A0beautiful =
long form musical work.=0A> Listen to single tracks out of order=0A> from T=
HE side of Abbey Road by the Beatles and you've=0A> missed something=A0impo=
rtant in my own=A0opinion.=0A> =0A> i definitely agree. this is far and awa=
y (for me) the=0A> greatest downside to the notion of digital purchasing. w=
hile=0A> i'm generally down with the idea of allowing people the=0A> option=
 to cherry pick albums, it definitely does cause some=0A> problems for list=
ening to the context of the work as a=0A> whole. abbey road is a perfect ex=
ample. i do love the=0A> "shuffle" option, because it can expose me to deep=
=0A> cuts from the bowels of my music collection. but it can=0A> definitely=
 detract from gaining a deeper understanding of=0A> the artist intent, part=
icularly when the album sequencing is=0A> done intentionally to expose some=
 kind of dramatic arc=0A> across the length of the album. that said, we can=
't=0A> change the ADHD nature of our society, so it's up to us=0A> to work =
within that limitation (or ignore it, as the case=0A> may often be).=0A> my=
 original post was made mostly just because i=0A> am surrounded by musician=
s and label people constantly, and=0A> this whole "the industry is collapsi=
ng" thing is=0A> all i ever hear. and a lot of that gets blamed on MP3=0A> =
technology, which is just nuts. that's like blaming cars=0A> for car accide=
nts. having seen a wide variety of creative=0A> expression here on this lis=
t, i was just a little surprised=0A> to hear that type of thing happening h=
ere. i do have hope=0A> that there is a solution out there waiting to be fo=
und. but=0A> sitting around and complaining about it won't=0A> necessarily =
do it. luddite tactics ("cds / vinyls / wax=0A> cylinders were better than =
mp3") aren't going to=0A> fly either. it's up to US to choose what we do wi=
th the=0A> technology available to us.=0A> ps, that said, i don't have the =
answer=0A> either. but i keep my eyes and ears open to=0A> possibilities.=
=0A>  - tyler / informatik -=0A> www.nymphomatik.com=0A> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D  =0A> =0A=0A_______________________=
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Hey all,

I've opened a reply email to this thread four times and keep closing it =
down for fear of getting too passionate, but I'm finally going to throw =
in a couple bucks on the issue as I've spend probably months of my life =
having this debate with various folks in various forms. I work as a =
Music Director as a campus and community radio station and, as a head's =
up to my position on the issue, we do not accept digital submissions. =
Here goes:


ENVIRONMENTAL COST/HIGH OCCUPANCY
I agree that yes, there is an environmental footprint in the creation =
and distribution of recordings. But at the same time, I look back on my =
musical learnings as a child, flipping through my Dad's record =
collection and seeing the amazing album cover to "Physical Graffiti" by =
Led Zeppelin (housed in a beautiful custom die cut which you could =
change what/who was sitting in the windows), and I remember loving that =
record before I even put it on the record player. I truly doubt I would =
have had the musical connection I have now without these early =
experiences of  simply gazing at these amazing album jackets, something =
not possible if my Dad's collection had been handed to me on an external =
hard drive. I'm having my first kid in a month, and someday I hope that =
they grab onto something from my collection and treasure it as much as I =
once did. Yes, I know that this is an emotional retort to a logical =
point, but when has music fallen in the category of logic. Ha!


ARTWORK
My early experiences with album artwork might have influenced my love =
for album artwork, but I LOVE good artwork. I understand your position =
Tyler - if I had a dollar for every album in my collection with terrible =
artwork, well... But, at the same time, if I had $100 for every record I =
own with beautiful artwork which enhances my enjoyment of that record, =
I'd be even richer. I know this might not seem like a fair balance, but =
I honestly believe that records with good artwork take my enjoyment to =
levels I would never achieve otherwise. For example, I would never have =
gotten into the amazing catalog of music on the Intr.Version label in =
Montreal if it weren't for their thread-stitched CD covers. I would =
never have gotten into the noisy meanderings of the Vancouver Fake Jazz =
scene had I not been enticed to buy a number of their spray-painted =
cassette tapes. Would have I enjoyed the new Megafaun album I bought =
four days ago if it wasn't for the amazing art etching on the fourth =
side? Of course! (it's a really good record), but not nearly as much.


RECORD STORES
This is the point that I die on every time, as I truly believe that the =
end of the record store is going to mean substantial problems for the =
music industry - much greater than just the ability to buy physical =
product. Here we go...

1. If record stores die, where will independent/self-released artists go =
to sell their wares (think about that amazing wall in your local record =
store promoting the latest and greatest by musicians in your community)? =
The reason artists have been able to develop themselves in the past is =
they have been able to grow with their fan base, selling their merch =
locally, then regionally, then nationally, then internationally as they =
succeed as an artist. Throw everyone in the pot that is digital album =
sales and you no longer have that support and growth from a local level =
- it's everyone, everywhere vying for the top spot. Really I think this =
sends us back to the days when the major recording labels were the only =
ones getting any major placement/album sales since they have the money =
to buy out the main advertising spots on the distribution method. I =
don't know this for sure, but I'd be willing to bet some money that the =
"single of the day" on iTunes isn't picked by some under-paid record =
store clerk who just really loves that band, but rather it is paid for =
by whomever has the money to do so. Besides this point, when an artist =
skips the steps of local-regional-national-international in terms of =
their fan base growth, it is very hard to book shows. For example, the =
first ten records of a new digital record could be sold in ten entirely =
different and regionally unobtainable markets across the world, whereas =
if I sold them all locally I have ten potential fans who might come to =
my show, spread the word, etc.. This continues throughout the whole =
growth model, and I can continue to branch out from my home base.

2. If you take record stores away, where are people going to see posters =
for shows and then buy tickets for those shows? Where are people going =
to talk to other local music nerds or answer printed wanted ads and =
start bands? Where are people going to talk to folks they would never =
talk to other than for their extreme passion of music? Yes, I realize =
that there are digital equivalents for all these things, but keeping the =
money/talent/information localized is a good thing that will be lost in =
the many websites and bulletin boards of the internet.

3. My strongest reasoning for the survival of local independent record =
stores is their integral part in a healthy local music scene - they are =
like one "organ" of the body this is a local music scene. For example: =
they buy ads in local entertainment media, which in turn keeps those =
media outlets in business, which in turn provides coverage on new local =
talent, who in turn sell merchandise at the record store. It's a =
beautiful loop, and in a lot of cities, no local record stores means no =
local entertainment media, and that's no good for local bands. How about =
the manufacturing system? Physical product is manufactured and sent to a =
distributor, who in turn sell it to record stores - no record stores =
means no distributors and no manufacturing plants. This is not just jobs =
lost when these businesses close down, but valuable parts of a regional =
musical network. I have to admit I haven't had any organs removed from =
my body to date, but I'm pretty sure the loss of one never comes without =
problems further down the chain.


I may sound like an old man in a rocking chair on my front porch =
proclaiming the end of the world - and maybe I am - but at the same time =
I'll admit that the digital age has brought about some amazing wins for =
the small artist in terms of promotion and sales that I do wish to =
acknowledge. The democratization of music distribution and promotion is =
a good thing and has allowed for some really amazing, non-commercial =
material to grace my ears. At the same time, I am constantly inundated =
with heaps of the worst garbage ever made. It has become too easy to =
become a musician in a lot of ways - recording, promotion and =
distribution can be done on almost no investment - and I think this has =
brought about the end of the music career Eno talked about in that quote =
which started us down this path. There are just too many people making =
so many splintered, random, sometimes-putrid and sometimes-wonderful =
variations of music to ever have another Beatles, Rolling Stones or Roxy =
Music. At the same time, though physical product may not be of interest =
to the casual music listener (and therefore a career built on selling =
physical product vs digital sales is not attainable), as long as there =
are weirdo music fans out there like myself, I feel (and hope) there =
will always be a place for physical medium.

-Myke







On 2010-01-26, at 10:08 PM, tyler newman wrote:

> hi-
>>=20
>> . But there is something special there that is lost on the I-Pod =
generation. I concur.
>>=20
> i'm not too sure that i agree with a great deal of the sentiment =
expressed here, re: the fetishism of owning plastic/vinyl discs.
>=20
> i'm not the ipod generation, nor am i old enough to actually consider =
vinyl "the superior medium". i own a few thousand cd's, accumulated over =
the past two decades more or less. i own zero vinyl records. i have =
owned four ipods. i have not owned a cd player in a decade. my primary =
source for listening to music is my computer and my ipod. i do not =
pirate music, ever.
>=20
> at the beginning of 2009, i decided to do an experiment, and switch =
all my music purchases to digital only for the whole year. ok, i cheated =
a few times (if, and only if) a band i liked came through town; i'd =
probably buy their cd if i liked their performance. that said, i will =
probably never purchase another cd / physical product. here's a short =
list:
>=20
> 1. the environmental cost is far too high. someday i'll be dead. and =
where will all that plastic end up? all those bulky jewel cases and =
shiny plastic coasters full of music that someone once cared about and =
now no one does. i don't like the idea of leaving a giant plastic =
footprint on the world.
>=20
> 2. they are low touch, high occupancy items. i buy a cd, i rip it in =
itunes, i shelve it. end of story. sure i might read the liner notes a =
time or two. but by and large it is literally sitting there taking up =
space for the next X number of years. eventually, we're back to point 1, =
above.
>=20
> 3. artwork, whatever. if i had a dollar for every cd i've bought with =
terrible artwork with no information inside, i could go on an itunes =
shopping spree. a nicely done PDF can be FAR better than a printed =
booklet, if it's done with some creative vision.
>=20
> 4. record stores. sorry, but i really consider these a massive waste =
of time. don't get me wrong i used to get a lot of pleasure out of =
spending hours of my time and many many dollars at amoeba (here in SF, =
truly one of the nations best record stores). BUT, more often than not, =
they wouldn't have exactly what i was looking for, so i'd end up blindly =
buying other stuff with mixed results. so that can be pretty =
frustrating. sure, i came upon some great finds, but NOTHING can compare =
with highly tuned recommendation algorithms, not even friends =
recommendations. while i'm not too convinced by amazons recommender, i =
think emusic has a great one, and of course netflix (yes, different =
medium, but same principle) is basically unrivalled. add to that the =
fact that i can literally be listening to the record in my home =
environment in a matter of seconds, that's very compelling.
>=20
> for me, digital is by far a superior music purchasing experience. i =
use itunes (rarely), amazon (occasionally), and emusic (like a crack =
addiction).
>=20
> of course, as an artist, the move to digital has hurt my overall =
sales, as more people use file transfer for music piracy. that's an =
undeniable fact. BUT, it's helped me as well:
>=20
> 1. digital sales are 100% trackable. this means that the numbers =
reported to soundscan are 100% accurate. no more guesswork as to how =
many onestops out there don't subscribe to soundscan, meaning i have no =
idea what my actual sales numbers are. i have a perfectly good =
relationship with my label, but nonetheless, i like seeing concrete data =
too.
>=20
> 2. no physical product means that there are no more physical product =
returns affecting my sales. this is huge for me, as i got seriously =
screwed when tower records went out of business and returned over 2500 =
copies of my second album. i'm almost, but not quite, out of that hole =
(several years later).
>=20
> 3. streaming revenue is making me more money now than physical sales =
on some of my records (the older ones in particular), which helps a lot. =
in a way, it's the perfect union of the above two points...how many =
broadcast radio stations really report accurate info? computer data =
allows for all of this to be 100% trackable, and helps my performing =
rights organization actually collect money and pay me!
>=20
> i like the fact that eno is being so confrontational with his =
statement. artists are all too often throwing their hands in the air and =
bemoaning the death of the music industry. i've done it myself! so the =
challenge is to come up with other ways of making it work.
>=20
> we're supposed to be creative people, right?
>=20
> - tyler / informatik
> - www.nymphomatik.com
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20

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> Teuffel methinks. 
 
Looper Craig Green has a beautiful Teuffel guitar. He played it on an
'experimental guitar evening' with me and another friend here in Cologne
last February, and we will do another one this February. Looking forward!

http://veloopity.blogspot.com/2009/03/experimental-guitar-evening.html

-Michael

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First impression: Lots of noise and thousand notes per minute, few soul!
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>I hadn't seen this posted but very cool, I guess Holdsworth didn't want to 
>be fimed so Torn came in which just breaks my heart!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3vktICM8Fk
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> Jeff
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In a live situation, that's quite annoying?

2010/1/28 Oldfolks Home Music <oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com>

>
>
> the 9/7 was a typo.  I meant 9/8.  Moving on.  I FIGURED IT OUT!  Kind of.
> Although it means a little extra work.  Heres what I did...
>
> MPC -Master
> RC50 - Slave
>
> On each machine set the desired tempo.  This must be set on both machines
> or it will not work.  Then set the MIDI SYNC under the SYSTEM tab on the
> RC50 to REMOTE.  The MPC should be set to output MIDI CLOCK on whatever midi
> out you pick.
>
> When you press PLAY on the MPC the looper will start automatically, but it
> won't take the tempo (that's why you set and save it in the patch!).  The
> problem here is that the looper starts recording immediately (which blows)
> so you either have to start the loop right away or set the first phrase to
> auto-overdub.  In the later situation, you essentially record an empty loop
> the length of loop you want to record, then after pressing the PLAY / RECORD
> pedal, when the "loop" is on it's "second" pass you start recording the real
> loop.
>
> it means that before you start every song with both machines, that you have
> a count-in the length of your first loop.  What a bitch.  But it works, it
> stays in sync.
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:38 AM, <folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> No such thing as 9/7. If one gadget only does 4/4 then write everything in
>> 4/4 & count as hemiola or get another gadget that has more time signiture
>> options.
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: * Oldfolks Home Music <oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:54:45 -0600
>> *To: *<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> *Subject: *Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
>>
>> Here's an update.  I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the looper is
>> running as the master BUT it falls out of sync after a couple minutes.  I'm
>> not sure whether its the looper, the info the looper is sending, the way the
>> mpc is receiving or the mpc unit.  This is so frustrating!
>>
>> I tried out a 2880 but the problem is that I work in 6/4, 9/7 and other
>> weird times and the 2880 only does 4/4 time.  So I'm screwed!  I wish
>> someone could write a program for the RC50 so that it worked properly
>> because Boss may never do it.
>>
>> Any other suggestions?  Any other loopers I should try?  The problem at
>> this point is money and availability of other units.  Does anyone run a
>> similar set up?
>>
>> Is there a metronome with a midi out that I could use as a master clock to
>> run to both units so that I don't depend on the midi clock in either?   Will
>> that only mean that the RC50 won't accept it anyway!?!?!?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
>> Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
>> http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
>> http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
> Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
> http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
> http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome
>
>
>
>
> --
> Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
> Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
> http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
> http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome
>
>


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In a live situation, that&#39;s quite annoying?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">2010/1/28 Oldfolks Home Music <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com">oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><b=
r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; bor=
der-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br>the 9/7 was a typo.=A0 I meant 9/8.=A0 M=
oving on.=A0 I FIGURED IT OUT!=A0 Kind of.=A0 Although it means a little ex=
tra work.=A0 Heres what I did...<br><br>MPC -Master<br>RC50 - Slave<br><br>=
On each machine set the desired tempo.=A0 This must be set on both machines=
 or it will not work.=A0 Then set the MIDI SYNC under the SYSTEM tab on the=
 RC50 to REMOTE.=A0 The MPC should be set to output MIDI CLOCK on whatever =
midi out you pick.=A0 <br>


<br>When you press PLAY on the MPC the looper will start automatically, but=
 it won&#39;t take the tempo (that&#39;s why you set and save it in the pat=
ch!).=A0 The problem here is that the looper starts recording immediately (=
which blows)=A0 so you either have to start the loop right away or set the =
first phrase to auto-overdub.=A0 In the later situation, you essentially re=
cord an empty loop the length of loop you want to record, then after pressi=
ng the PLAY / RECORD pedal, when the &quot;loop&quot; is on it&#39;s &quot;=
second&quot; pass you start recording the real loop.=A0 <br>


<br>it means that before you start every song with both machines, that you =
have a count-in the length of your first loop.=A0 What a bitch.=A0 But it w=
orks, it stays in sync.=A0 <br><div><div></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:38 AM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net" target=3D"_blank">folkstone57@tmo.blackberr=
y.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">   Hello<br><br>N=
o such thing as 9/7. If one gadget only does 4/4 then write everything in 4=
/4 &amp; count as hemiola or get another gadget that has more time signitur=
e options. <div>


<p>Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile</p><hr><div><b>From: </b> Oldfolks Hom=
e Music &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;
</div></div><div><b>Date: </b>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:54:45 -0600</div><div><di=
v><b>To: </b>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;</div>
</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!</div><div>=
<div></div><div><div><br></div>Here&#39;s an update.=A0 I got the RC50 to s=
ync with the MPC when the looper is running as the master BUT it falls out =
of sync after a couple minutes.=A0 I&#39;m not sure whether its the looper,=
 the info the looper is sending, the way the mpc is receiving or the mpc un=
it.=A0 This is so frustrating!<br>



<br>I tried out a 2880 but the problem is that I work in 6/4, 9/7 and other=
 weird times and the 2880 only does 4/4 time.=A0 So I&#39;m screwed!=A0 I w=
ish someone could write a program for the RC50 so that it worked properly b=
ecause Boss may never do it.=A0 <br>



<br>Any other suggestions?=A0 Any other loopers I should try?=A0 The proble=
m at this point is money and availability of other units.=A0 Does anyone ru=
n a similar set up?<br><br>Is there a metronome with a midi out that I coul=
d use as a master clock to run to both units so that I don&#39;t depend on =
the midi clock in either?=A0=A0 Will that only mean that the RC50 won&#39;t=
 accept it anyway!?!?!?=A0 <br>



<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar<br>Oldfolks Home / Solom=
on Records Music<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic</a><br><a href=3D"=
http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sonicbi=
ds.com/oldfolkshome</a><br>



<br>

</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ricardo Lop=
ez-Aguilar<br>Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music<br><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic" target=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/o=
ldfolkshomemusic</a><br>


<a href=3D"http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome</a><br><br>
</div></div></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar<br=
>Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com=
/oldfolkshomemusic" target=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemu=
sic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahtinen<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/">http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.c=
om/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen">http://www.myspace.com/pet=
rilahtinen</a><br><a href=3D"http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen">http://twitt=
er.com/PetriLahtinen</a><br><a href=3D"http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/">=
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/</a><br>
---------------------------------------------------<br>&quot;Only become pr=
ofessional musician if there is no choice.&quot; -Robert Fripp-<br>--------=
-------------------------------------------<br>&quot;Some people never go c=
razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead.&quot; -Charles Bukowski-<br=
>
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To touch on just one point - the environmental analysis is anything but cry=
stal clear.  Vinyl (PVC) is nasty stuff, paper is usually (but not necessar=
ily) made from trees felled in an unsustainable manner, and shipping physic=
al objects requires energy.

But if anyone imagines it requires no energy to keep 10 gazillion mp3s avai=
lable 24/7, never mind all the streaming, well, you need to educate yoursel=
f about the carbon footprint of server farms. Increasing efficiency has not=
 kept pace with ever faster increases in use. As for the waste stream, e-wa=
ste is a huge worldwide problem, and the manufacture of digital devices req=
uires continuous heavy input from the extraction industries.

Calculating the pros and cons is VERY complex, with lots of hidden costs. I=
 don't think we can with any confidence state that online music distributio=
n has saved anything, in comparison with earlier technology. When devices a=
re designed for cradle-to-cradle production and all servers are powered by =
solar, wind or other sustainable energy sources, it will be another story. =
It doesn't look like we are moving in that direction.

Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: Myke Atkinson [mailto:mykeatkinson@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:25 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Brian Eno about recorded music

Hey all,

I've opened a reply email to this thread four times and keep closing it dow=
n for fear of getting too passionate, but I'm finally going to throw in a c=
ouple bucks on the issue as I've spend probably months of my life having th=
is debate with various folks in various forms. I work as a Music Director a=
s a campus and community radio station and, as a head's up to my position o=
n the issue, we do not accept digital submissions. Here goes:


ENVIRONMENTAL COST/HIGH OCCUPANCY
I agree that yes, there is an environmental footprint in the creation and d=
istribution of recordings. But at the same time, I look back on my musical =
learnings as a child, flipping through my Dad's record collection and seein=
g the amazing album cover to "Physical Graffiti" by Led Zeppelin (housed in=
 a beautiful custom die cut which you could change what/who was sitting in =
the windows), and I remember loving that record before I even put it on the=
 record player. I truly doubt I would have had the musical connection I hav=
e now without these early experiences of  simply gazing at these amazing al=
bum jackets, something not possible if my Dad's collection had been handed =
to me on an external hard drive. I'm having my first kid in a month, and so=
meday I hope that they grab onto something from my collection and treasure =
it as much as I once did. Yes, I know that this is an emotional retort to a=
 logical point, but when has music fallen in the category of logic. Ha!


ARTWORK
My early experiences with album artwork might have influenced my love for a=
lbum artwork, but I LOVE good artwork. I understand your position Tyler - i=
f I had a dollar for every album in my collection with terrible artwork, we=
ll... But, at the same time, if I had $100 for every record I own with beau=
tiful artwork which enhances my enjoyment of that record, I'd be even riche=
r. I know this might not seem like a fair balance, but I honestly believe t=
hat records with good artwork take my enjoyment to levels I would never ach=
ieve otherwise. For example, I would never have gotten into the amazing cat=
alog of music on the Intr.Version label in Montreal if it weren't for their=
 thread-stitched CD covers. I would never have gotten into the noisy meande=
rings of the Vancouver Fake Jazz scene had I not been enticed to buy a numb=
er of their spray-painted cassette tapes. Would have I enjoyed the new Mega=
faun album I bought four days ago if it wasn't for the amazing art etching =
on the fourth side? Of course! (it's a really good record), but not nearly =
as much.


RECORD STORES
This is the point that I die on every time, as I truly believe that the end=
 of the record store is going to mean substantial problems for the music in=
dustry - much greater than just the ability to buy physical product. Here w=
e go...

1. If record stores die, where will independent/self-released artists go to=
 sell their wares (think about that amazing wall in your local record store=
 promoting the latest and greatest by musicians in your community)? The rea=
son artists have been able to develop themselves in the past is they have b=
een able to grow with their fan base, selling their merch locally, then reg=
ionally, then nationally, then internationally as they succeed as an artist=
. Throw everyone in the pot that is digital album sales and you no longer h=
ave that support and growth from a local level - it's everyone, everywhere =
vying for the top spot. Really I think this sends us back to the days when =
the major recording labels were the only ones getting any major placement/a=
lbum sales since they have the money to buy out the main advertising spots =
on the distribution method. I don't know this for sure, but I'd be willing =
to bet some money that the "single of the day" on iTunes isn't picked by so=
me under-paid record store clerk who just really loves that band, but rathe=
r it is paid for by whomever has the money to do so. Besides this point, wh=
en an artist skips the steps of local-regional-national-international in te=
rms of their fan base growth, it is very hard to book shows. For example, t=
he first ten records of a new digital record could be sold in ten entirely =
different and regionally unobtainable markets across the world, whereas if =
I sold them all locally I have ten potential fans who might come to my show=
, spread the word, etc.. This continues throughout the whole growth model, =
and I can continue to branch out from my home base.

2. If you take record stores away, where are people going to see posters fo=
r shows and then buy tickets for those shows? Where are people going to tal=
k to other local music nerds or answer printed wanted ads and start bands? =
Where are people going to talk to folks they would never talk to other than=
 for their extreme passion of music? Yes, I realize that there are digital =
equivalents for all these things, but keeping the money/talent/information =
localized is a good thing that will be lost in the many websites and bullet=
in boards of the internet.

3. My strongest reasoning for the survival of local independent record stor=
es is their integral part in a healthy local music scene - they are like on=
e "organ" of the body this is a local music scene. For example: they buy ad=
s in local entertainment media, which in turn keeps those media outlets in =
business, which in turn provides coverage on new local talent, who in turn =
sell merchandise at the record store. It's a beautiful loop, and in a lot o=
f cities, no local record stores means no local entertainment media, and th=
at's no good for local bands. How about the manufacturing system? Physical =
product is manufactured and sent to a distributor, who in turn sell it to r=
ecord stores - no record stores means no distributors and no manufacturing =
plants. This is not just jobs lost when these businesses close down, but va=
luable parts of a regional musical network. I have to admit I haven't had a=
ny organs removed from my body to date, but I'm pretty sure the loss of one=
 never comes without problems further down the chain.


I may sound like an old man in a rocking chair on my front porch proclaimin=
g the end of the world - and maybe I am - but at the same time I'll admit t=
hat the digital age has brought about some amazing wins for the small artis=
t in terms of promotion and sales that I do wish to acknowledge. The democr=
atization of music distribution and promotion is a good thing and has allow=
ed for some really amazing, non-commercial material to grace my ears. At th=
e same time, I am constantly inundated with heaps of the worst garbage ever=
 made. It has become too easy to become a musician in a lot of ways - recor=
ding, promotion and distribution can be done on almost no investment - and =
I think this has brought about the end of the music career Eno talked about=
 in that quote which started us down this path. There are just too many peo=
ple making so many splintered, random, sometimes-putrid and sometimes-wonde=
rful variations of music to ever have another Beatles, Rolling Stones or Ro=
xy Music. At the same time, though physical product may not be of interest =
to the casual music listener (and therefore a career built on selling physi=
cal product vs digital sales is not attainable), as long as there are weird=
o music fans out there like myself, I feel (and hope) there will always be =
a place for physical medium.

-Myke







On 2010-01-26, at 10:08 PM, tyler newman wrote:

> hi-
>>=20
>> . But there is something special there that is lost on the I-Pod generat=
ion. I concur.
>>=20
> i'm not too sure that i agree with a great deal of the sentiment expresse=
d here, re: the fetishism of owning plastic/vinyl discs.
>=20
> i'm not the ipod generation, nor am i old enough to actually consider vin=
yl "the superior medium". i own a few thousand cd's, accumulated over the p=
ast two decades more or less. i own zero vinyl records. i have owned four i=
pods. i have not owned a cd player in a decade. my primary source for liste=
ning to music is my computer and my ipod. i do not pirate music, ever.
>=20
> at the beginning of 2009, i decided to do an experiment, and switch all m=
y music purchases to digital only for the whole year. ok, i cheated a few t=
imes (if, and only if) a band i liked came through town; i'd probably buy t=
heir cd if i liked their performance. that said, i will probably never purc=
hase another cd / physical product. here's a short list:
>=20
> 1. the environmental cost is far too high. someday i'll be dead. and wher=
e will all that plastic end up? all those bulky jewel cases and shiny plast=
ic coasters full of music that someone once cared about and now no one does=
. i don't like the idea of leaving a giant plastic footprint on the world.
>=20
> 2. they are low touch, high occupancy items. i buy a cd, i rip it in itun=
es, i shelve it. end of story. sure i might read the liner notes a time or =
two. but by and large it is literally sitting there taking up space for the=
 next X number of years. eventually, we're back to point 1, above.
>=20
> 3. artwork, whatever. if i had a dollar for every cd i've bought with ter=
rible artwork with no information inside, i could go on an itunes shopping =
spree. a nicely done PDF can be FAR better than a printed booklet, if it's =
done with some creative vision.
>=20
> 4. record stores. sorry, but i really consider these a massive waste of t=
ime. don't get me wrong i used to get a lot of pleasure out of spending hou=
rs of my time and many many dollars at amoeba (here in SF, truly one of the=
 nations best record stores). BUT, more often than not, they wouldn't have =
exactly what i was looking for, so i'd end up blindly buying other stuff wi=
th mixed results. so that can be pretty frustrating. sure, i came upon some=
 great finds, but NOTHING can compare with highly tuned recommendation algo=
rithms, not even friends recommendations. while i'm not too convinced by am=
azons recommender, i think emusic has a great one, and of course netflix (y=
es, different medium, but same principle) is basically unrivalled. add to t=
hat the fact that i can literally be listening to the record in my home env=
ironment in a matter of seconds, that's very compelling.
>=20
> for me, digital is by far a superior music purchasing experience. i use i=
tunes (rarely), amazon (occasionally), and emusic (like a crack addiction).
>=20
> of course, as an artist, the move to digital has hurt my overall sales, a=
s more people use file transfer for music piracy. that's an undeniable fact=
. BUT, it's helped me as well:
>=20
> 1. digital sales are 100% trackable. this means that the numbers reported=
 to soundscan are 100% accurate. no more guesswork as to how many onestops =
out there don't subscribe to soundscan, meaning i have no idea what my actu=
al sales numbers are. i have a perfectly good relationship with my label, b=
ut nonetheless, i like seeing concrete data too.
>=20
> 2. no physical product means that there are no more physical product retu=
rns affecting my sales. this is huge for me, as i got seriously screwed whe=
n tower records went out of business and returned over 2500 copies of my se=
cond album. i'm almost, but not quite, out of that hole (several years late=
r).
>=20
> 3. streaming revenue is making me more money now than physical sales on s=
ome of my records (the older ones in particular), which helps a lot. in a w=
ay, it's the perfect union of the above two points...how many broadcast rad=
io stations really report accurate info? computer data allows for all of th=
is to be 100% trackable, and helps my performing rights organization actual=
ly collect money and pay me!
>=20
> i like the fact that eno is being so confrontational with his statement. =
artists are all too often throwing their hands in the air and bemoaning the=
 death of the music industry. i've done it myself! so the challenge is to c=
ome up with other ways of making it work.
>=20
> we're supposed to be creative people, right?
>=20
> - tyler / informatik
> - www.nymphomatik.com
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20

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I love these long wandering threads, it shows me that LD is as it always has
been, one of the most intellectual and thought-provoking group of people on
the web. I have changed my opinion on this issue 3 times thoughout the
course of this one thread, going from Grr I hate mp3, bring back vinyl... to
ahh well yes.. the trees... the carbon... and back to... well thats a good
point too..

I was just about swung in favour of files and mp3s, then Apple bring out the
iPad... Christ... what nonsense... more trendy connectivity for the bus ride
to work...

..or is it... touch screen metasurface anyone?

One thing though, can people remember to intelligently quote from the
previous post, and not just hit REPLY.. I agree...  SEND... (and dont change
the topic)

Just a reminder

mark

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I love these long wandering threads, it shows me that LD is as it always ha=
s been, one of the most intellectual and thought-provoking group of people =
on the web. I have changed my opinion on this issue 3 times thoughout the c=
ourse of this one thread, going from Grr I hate mp3, bring back vinyl... to=
 ahh well yes.. the trees... the carbon... and back to... well thats a good=
 point too..<br>

<br>I was just about swung in favour of files and mp3s, then Apple bring ou=
t the iPad... Christ... what nonsense... more trendy connectivity for the b=
us ride to work... <br><br>..or is it... touch screen metasurface anyone?<b=
r>

<br>One thing though, can people remember to intelligently quote from the p=
revious post, and not just hit REPLY.. I agree...=A0 SEND... (and dont chan=
ge the topic) <br><br>Just a reminder<br><br>mark<br>=A0

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On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:16 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> I have changed my opinion on this issue 3 times thoughout the
> course of this one thread, going from Grr I hate mp3, bring back vinyl... to
> ahh well yes.. the trees... the carbon... and back to... well thats a good
> point too..

Most of us love the big format of the vinyl cover but an important
point, that I think many are missing, is the big changes in the
culture and market. A lot more music is available to music lovers
today, compared to a couple of decades back - not just bad copy-cat
music that sucks but also really good music with a true unique
expression. It's simply not possible today for a music lover to
consume "all the best" via a mechanical/physical medium. For "hoggish
listening" the streaming or downloadable format is just perfect MHO.
I'm not talking bad sounding mp3 compression or lossless formats or at
least sonically well compressed.

Please don't misunderstand me - I'm not recommending "hoggish
listening" only. To me art makes sens both on the closely
contemplative close up focus level as on the general skip-player
overview level.


> Apple bring out the
> iPad... Christ... what nonsense... more trendy connectivity for the bus ride
> to work...

Some folks welcome it as a super cheap "Lemur". By
OSC/Bluetooth-whatever networked control surface for electronic music
live performance. Someone just have to hack together a great mixer
application for it. When thinking about that it totally makes sense
having an iPad as the touch-screen mixer/controller and another box
handling the DSP the traditional way. (not for me though, since I need
both hands on physical instruments. More then ever with the Stick I've
found out. So I'm stuck with the dreadful Behringer FCBs it seems....
)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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It just means I'll have to get creative with my "count-in" until Boss
fixes the problem or someone writes alternative software for the RC50.

Anyone up for the challenge?

On 1/29/10, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
> In a live situation, that's quite annoying?
>
> 2010/1/28 Oldfolks Home Music <oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com>
>
>>
>>
>> the 9/7 was a typo.  I meant 9/8.  Moving on.  I FIGURED IT OUT!  Kind of.
>> Although it means a little extra work.  Heres what I did...
>>
>> MPC -Master
>> RC50 - Slave
>>
>> On each machine set the desired tempo.  This must be set on both machines
>> or it will not work.  Then set the MIDI SYNC under the SYSTEM tab on the
>> RC50 to REMOTE.  The MPC should be set to output MIDI CLOCK on whatever
>> midi
>> out you pick.
>>
>> When you press PLAY on the MPC the looper will start automatically, but it
>> won't take the tempo (that's why you set and save it in the patch!).  The
>> problem here is that the looper starts recording immediately (which blows)
>> so you either have to start the loop right away or set the first phrase to
>> auto-overdub.  In the later situation, you essentially record an empty
>> loop
>> the length of loop you want to record, then after pressing the PLAY /
>> RECORD
>> pedal, when the "loop" is on it's "second" pass you start recording the
>> real
>> loop.
>>
>> it means that before you start every song with both machines, that you
>> have
>> a count-in the length of your first loop.  What a bitch.  But it works, it
>> stays in sync.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:38 AM, <folkstone57@tmo.blackberry.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> No such thing as 9/7. If one gadget only does 4/4 then write everything
>>> in
>>> 4/4 & count as hemiola or get another gadget that has more time signiture
>>> options.
>>>
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: * Oldfolks Home Music <oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com>
>>> *Date: *Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:54:45 -0600
>>> *To: *<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>> *Subject: *Boss RC50 and MPC midi sync problems!
>>>
>>> Here's an update.  I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the looper is
>>> running as the master BUT it falls out of sync after a couple minutes.
>>> I'm
>>> not sure whether its the looper, the info the looper is sending, the way
>>> the
>>> mpc is receiving or the mpc unit.  This is so frustrating!
>>>
>>> I tried out a 2880 but the problem is that I work in 6/4, 9/7 and other
>>> weird times and the 2880 only does 4/4 time.  So I'm screwed!  I wish
>>> someone could write a program for the RC50 so that it worked properly
>>> because Boss may never do it.
>>>
>>> Any other suggestions?  Any other loopers I should try?  The problem at
>>> this point is money and availability of other units.  Does anyone run a
>>> similar set up?
>>>
>>> Is there a metronome with a midi out that I could use as a master clock
>>> to
>>> run to both units so that I don't depend on the midi clock in either?
>>> Will
>>> that only mean that the RC50 won't accept it anyway!?!?!?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
>>> Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
>>> http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
>>> http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
>> Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
>> http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
>> http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
>> Oldfolks Home / Solomon Records Music
>> http://www.myspace.com/oldfolkshomemusic
>> http://www.sonicbids.com/oldfolkshome
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
> http://www.myspace.com/petrilahtinen
> http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead."
> -Charles Bukowski-
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-- 
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Ricardo Lopez-Aguilar
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chris@christojota.de wrote:
> First impression: Lots of noise and thousand notes per minute, few soul!

yep, I was disappointed by the "guitar god" hierarchical structure,
and lack of interplay.

The first lesson on any instrument should be how to create silence.

andy butler



> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
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>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3vktICM8Fk
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
> 
> 

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/100128.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #669                January 28, 2010.

RECAP:
On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Steve Roach.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was disk two from Dynamic Stillness on Projekt
Records.

Steve Roach: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#jan


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Gert Emmens          Part 14              The Nearest Faraway Plave
                                            Volume 2 (Groove)
Interconnected       Pulsating            Current Flow (VU-US)
Arcane               Wave Euation         Tomorrow's Wasteland (Paul
                                            Lawler Music)
Andreas Akwara       Part V               Quantum (Groove)
Steve Roach          Nature of Things     Dynamic Stillness (Projekt)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Steve Roach          Further Inside       Dynamic Stillness (Projekt)
Steve Roach          Slowly Revealed      Dynamic Stillness (Projekt)
Steve Roach          Canyon Stillness     Dynamic Stillness (Projekt)

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on E=motion.
The Featured CD at Midnight will be Infinite Motion on Underwater Music.

E=motion: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#feb


Bill
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...or internet forum!  :)


>
>The first lesson on any instrument should be how to create silence.
>
>andy butler
>
>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
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>>Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:20 PM
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>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU
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>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3vktICM8Fk
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>>>
>>>Jeff


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On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:00 PM,
> chris@christojota.de wrote:
>>
>> First impression: Lots of noise and thousand notes per minute, few soul!

andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> yep, I was disappointed by the "guitar god" hierarchical structure,
> and lack of interplay.

Can't deny that. But obviously it was a big stage with loud PA and
on-stage monitoring - anyone that has tried that knows how hard it is
to get the interplay flow running freely.... I think they did well
under the circumstances. Torn was sometimes clearly not able to hear
the other guys but still managed to make some interesting noise and
the same can be said about Bozzio. When monitoring is down you just
have to stick with something that minimizes the risk for musical
clashes ;-))  Tony Levin chose the other alternative in such a
difficult situation: not playing until you get a good view of what's
going on and then start adding something that makes sense. In a way
the video was a nice lecture.

> The first lesson on any instrument should be how to create silence.

I'm mastering that right now by keeping my 1929 tenor sax in a french
case at the closet. On the STick I'm not that  good... keep pounding
"metal riffs + thumping bass" all over, but I guess that's just a
childish phase that will soon leave room for something more silent.
(can certain music be more silent than other music? would that be
better?)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Quoting Oldfolks Home Music <oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com>:
>
> Here's an update.  I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the looper is
> running as the master BUT it falls out of sync after a couple minutes.
> I'm
> not sure whether its the looper, the info the looper is sending, the way
> the
> mpc is receiving or the mpc unit.  This is so frustrating!
>
>
Ah, the RC50 syncing issue...

I think the RC50 is a great unit and it holds its internal tracks =20
precisely in-sync with no problems.

However, I had problems when trying to sync the RC50 with external =20
hardware -- even when using the RC50 as the master there were glitches =20
in its MIDI Clock.

One application that has been fun is run the looper as a master and =20
clock my analog synthesizer (the MIDI to CV converter translates the =20
MIDI START and MIDI CLOCK signals into trigger signals which, in turn, =20
fire envelope generators and clock the sample/hold and sequencer).  =20
Alas, the RC50 would occasionally skip a signal and the things would =20
shift out-of-sync.

I've been using the LP1 (thanks Bob!) for the same application and its =20
clock signal is rock-steady and never misses a beat.

Well, my RC50 was gathering dust so I sold it to someone who will not =20
be syncing it externally and I'm sure he will enjoy the RC50 for his =20
application.

The RC50 is a fine machine in many ways however I never could get it =20
to sync up with external devices in a dependable manner.

-- Kevin

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Or you can import the sounds/drum loops you want to use and save  
these in patches. This works too. Although sound quality is a little  
tepid.
I agree the RC50 is pretty good as long as you know and accept its  
limitations. Not for Ambient stuff for sure, but for song form loops  
its really stable and dependable.




On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:54 AM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote:

> Quoting Oldfolks Home Music <oldfolkshomemusic@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Here's an update.  I got the RC50 to sync with the MPC when the  
>> looper is
>> running as the master BUT it falls out of sync after a couple  
>> minutes.
>> I'm
>> not sure whether its the looper, the info the looper is sending,  
>> the way
>> the
>> mpc is receiving or the mpc unit.  This is so frustrating!
>>
>>
> Ah, the RC50 syncing issue...
>
> I think the RC50 is a great unit and it holds its internal tracks  
> precisely in-sync with no problems.
>
> However, I had problems when trying to sync the RC50 with external  
> hardware -- even when using the RC50 as the master there were  
> glitches in its MIDI Clock.
>
> One application that has been fun is run the looper as a master and  
> clock my analog synthesizer (the MIDI to CV converter translates  
> the MIDI START and MIDI CLOCK signals into trigger signals which,  
> in turn, fire envelope generators and clock the sample/hold and  
> sequencer).  Alas, the RC50 would occasionally skip a signal and  
> the things would shift out-of-sync.
>
> I've been using the LP1 (thanks Bob!) for the same application and  
> its clock signal is rock-steady and never misses a beat.
>
> Well, my RC50 was gathering dust so I sold it to someone who will  
> not be syncing it externally and I'm sure he will enjoy the RC50  
> for his application.
>
> The RC50 is a fine machine in many ways however I never could get  
> it to sync up with external devices in a dependable manner.
>
> -- Kevin
>

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I'm with Tony Levin on this one. Look for a space to put somethng meaningfu=
l in.=20

G

> Date: Fri=2C 29 Jan 2010 16:28:36 +0100
> Subject: Re: David Torn=2CTerry Bozzio=2CTony Levin=2CPat Mastelotto NAMM=
 2010
> From: perboysen@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> On Fri=2C Jan 29=2C 2010 at 4:00 PM=2C
> > chris@christojota.de wrote:
> >>
> >> First impression: Lots of noise and thousand notes per minute=2C few s=
oul!
>=20
> andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > yep=2C I was disappointed by the "guitar god" hierarchical structure=2C
> > and lack of interplay.
>=20
> Can't deny that. But obviously it was a big stage with loud PA and
> on-stage monitoring - anyone that has tried that knows how hard it is
> to get the interplay flow running freely.... I think they did well
> under the circumstances. Torn was sometimes clearly not able to hear
> the other guys but still managed to make some interesting noise and
> the same can be said about Bozzio. When monitoring is down you just
> have to stick with something that minimizes the risk for musical
> clashes =3B-))  Tony Levin chose the other alternative in such a
> difficult situation: not playing until you get a good view of what's
> going on and then start adding something that makes sense. In a way
> the video was a nice lecture.
>=20
> > The first lesson on any instrument should be how to create silence.
>=20
> I'm mastering that right now by keeping my 1929 tenor sax in a french
> case at the closet. On the STick I'm not that  good... keep pounding
> "metal riffs + thumping bass" all over=2C but I guess that's just a
> childish phase that will soon leave room for something more silent.
> (can certain music be more silent than other music? would that be
> better?)
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> Greetings from Sweden
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> www.perboysen.com
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Per Boysen wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:00 PM,
>> chris@christojota.de wrote:
>>> First impression: Lots of noise and thousand notes per minute, few soul!
> 
> andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> yep, I was disappointed by the "guitar god" hierarchical structure,
>> and lack of interplay.
> 
> Can't deny that. But obviously it was a big stage with loud PA and
> on-stage monitoring - anyone that has tried that knows how hard it is
> to get the interplay flow running freely.... I think they did well
> under the circumstances.

You obviously persisted with it much better than I did :-)

> 
>> The first lesson on any instrument should be how to create silence.
> 
> I'm mastering that right now by keeping my 1929 tenor sax in a french
> case at the closet. 

don't forget the shorter silences

andy

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jeff-MANY thanks for posting that!!!! i had seen one pic of the git
on thegearpage.net listing...but no one had posted any links to live vid
i'll be doing some listening and watching tonight for sure.

yes, love the look/sound of the teuffel niwa that DT plays. a most
interesting guitar...would love to see his koll tornado in action
more, but this namm footage will do.
i like AH just fine and he's a great player, but there i LOADS of
vid on AH on utube....nice to see some new DT footage.
again-thanks for posting it....s---


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU

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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><pre>jeff-MANY thanks for posting that!!!! i had seen one pic of the git<br>on thegearpage.net listing...but no one had posted any links to live vid<br>i'll be doing some listening and watching tonight for sure.<br><br>yes, love the look/sound of the teuffel niwa that DT plays. a most<br>interesting guitar...would love to see his koll tornado in action<br>more, but this namm footage will do.<br>i like AH just fine and he's a great player, but there i LOADS of<br>vid on AH on utube....nice to see some new DT footage.<br>again-thanks for posting it....s---<br><br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQGF26W0qPU</a><br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3vktICM8Fk">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3vktICM8Fk</a><br><br></pre></td></tr></table><br>



      
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Gareth Whittock
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> I'm with Tony Levin on this one. Look for a space to put somethng meaningful
> in.


Yep, that's indeed the most honorable method but it may easily get a
bit complicated if all players on stage chose that solution and the
music and interplay suddenly just stops ;-))

Per
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Well if there's a space and they cant think of anythng meaningful to play=
=2C silence might be preferable =3B-)

g

> Date: Fri=2C 29 Jan 2010 18:07:32 +0100
> Subject: Re: David Torn=2CTerry Bozzio=2CTony Levin=2CPat Mastelotto NAMM=
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> From: perboysen@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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> On Fri=2C Jan 29=2C 2010 at 5:11 PM=2C Gareth Whittock
> <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
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> > in.
>=20
>=20
> Yep=2C that's indeed the most honorable method but it may easily get a
> bit complicated if all players on stage chose that solution and the
> music and interplay suddenly just stops =3B-))
>=20
> Per
> (who actually loves "silent music" as boasted by Paul Bley=2C Jimmy
> Giuffre=2C Tony Scott...)
>=20
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Jim Goodin schrieb:
> if I weren't up to my ears in instruments and doing too many as it is 
> I'd WANT as well particularly his models that look like tubular bells, 
> that and a Stick, oh well I WANT anyway!
You should rather not get a stick - for various reasons explained here 
by a looper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky7t0UGaYaw

For a review from one of us, read here:
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First impression: Lots of noise and thousand notes per minute, few=20
soul!=C2=A0
www.christojota.de=C2=A0
www.myspace.com/christojota=C2=A0

same here.....i was greatly underwhelmed by this and felt that there=20
was something wrong with me!=20

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On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Gareth Whittock
<buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
> Well if there's a space and they cant think of anythng meaningful to play,
> silence might be preferable ;-)

Wisely spoken, Gareth! You and Andy win this thread IMHO ;-))

Per
(already posted too much in this thread so what-the-heck...)

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per wrote:

But obviously it was a big stage with loud PA and
on-stage monitoring - anyone that has tried that knows how hard it is
to get the interplay flow running freely.... I think they did well
under the circumstances.

this was namm for goodness sake.....one would think that they have that=20
together!

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I can understand these posts although I loved it. I just don't get enough DT 
to listen to/see on the net. Or the rest of the line up for that matter.

You have to (or not) remember that this was just an impromptu jam after 
Holdsworth bowed out. I think they were just jumping in and having some fun 
jamming. I am not looking at these vids as a musical statement from the 
artists. Sometimes silence is golden no doubt, but sometimes a wall of sound 
is called for yes? :) I think we all know that these players can and do play 
with "soul" when they want/need to.

peace,

j

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First impression: Lots of noise and thousand notes per minute, few
soul!
www.christojota.de
www.myspace.com/christojota

same here.....i was greatly underwhelmed by this and felt that there
was something wrong with me!


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"Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> ha scritto:

> You have to (or not) remember that this was just an impromptu jam  
> after Holdsworth bowed out. I think they were just jumping in and  
> having some fun jamming. I am not looking at these vids as a musical  
> statement from the artists. Sometimes silence is golden no doubt,  
> but sometimes a wall of sound is called for yes? :) I think we all  
> know that these players can and do play with "soul" when they want/ 
> need to.

Not in this case, evidently.
And I'm a fan of each one of them...
They are all great and experienced musicians and they had some  
collaborations in the past.
So it's very odd that jam was so... "iced", without musical flux.
My impression is: too much brain and research for impressive musical  
solutions, heart is missing here...

Fabio
www. eterogeneo.com

>
> peace,
>
> j
>
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> First impression: Lots of noise and thousand notes per minute, few
> soul!
> www.christojota.de
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> same here.....i was greatly underwhelmed by this and felt that there
> was something wrong with me!
>
>

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Hi Everyone !

I'm Rapha=EBl, indy iPhone developer, amateur guitarist and looper
lover. I usually and still use an Electrix Repeater and a RC20XL,
which wonderfully do their job, but when I first get my hands on an
iPhone, some ideas began to pop up and they eventually came together
as an app called Everyday Looper.

First, when using the Repeater, I always got the frustration of not
being able to visualize my recordings, as a waveform provides great
information about the audio signal that it represents : rhythm, tempo,
envelop of notes, silences, ... . Even more great is that it does it
in 2D, meaning that wherever the play cursor is, I can view these
infos for the entire length of my loop, so I have a representation of
the future before hearing it. Translated into facts, Everyday Looper
displays its four tracks (yes, like the Repeater ^^) waveform in full
screen. No buttons or anything to clutter the space.

Then I wanted a "joyfull" way to interact with the looper. Real knobs,
buttons and foot switches are totally cool, but, let's face it, an
iPhone doesn't have any ... Virtual buttons are off, because of the
first feature up here and because I don't like them, simply. So I go
for multi-touch gestures instead. For exemple you can tap with two
fingers to play/pause, swipe simultaneously over multiple tracks to
change volume, tap and hold a track and drag it to its destination to
merge ... That gives a great feeling of interacting directly with
audio.

And last, I wanted it to assist us in every way possible. So you will
find features as auto-normalisation, a limiter on both merge path and
final mix path, and quantized to loop recording.

As I see it, there is two major family of looper users (and of course
all the shades in-between). The ambient ones, which extensively use
feedback, overdubbing and can be quite happy with a single loop track.
The structural ones, for which multiple track, and quantization are
vital. As you probably guess it, I'm more in the second category, so
is the looper too. At least for now ^^.

Here is my website if you want more precise information, screenshots,
videos, ... : http://www.mancingdolecules.com . And here is the direct
link for download : http://www.itunes.com/app/EverydayLooper .

The app is on sale now (2$/1.6=80/1.2=A3) to celebrate the 1.1 update
which adds track merging. The usual price will be (5$/4=80/3=A3). But I
would like to offer you a few promo codes, to download it for free, if
you have an iTunes US Store account. I can give away 5. Simply write
me directly through this mail (raphael@mancingdolecules.com) and I
will happily send you one if their is some left.

Don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, or ask me questions
if things are unclear. On this mailing list will be fine as I read it
regularly :).

Cheers !

Rapha=EBl

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Here's a quick reminder that The MoinSound Studio Sessions ("MSSS" for 
short), my bi-weekly virtual concert series, will air this Saturday, 
1700 UTC on ustream:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions

timeanddate.com link for world clock time information: http://bit.ly/agZZUy

In the week up to the first MSSS this year, I was doing daily streams 
using lots of synths and hardware effects stuff. A summary of the 
unedited videos can be found here:
http://bit.ly/8qBVad

But this time, I'm gonna do something else...but I'm not sure what. I 
state that knowing that the least thing typical concert audiences want 
is surprises, but then again, you're not typical, are you?

See you there!

             Rainer

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The virtual World experimental quartet
DigItSignal<http://www.livestream.com/digitsignallive>returns live
this Sunday at 11am EST (1-31-10), weaving their
improvisational loops and rhythmic emotions accompanying the classic Fritz
Lang film 'M' <http://www.archive.org/details/M_>.

Due to the length of this epic work this weekend's show will be the first
hour to be continued on a performance the following weekend.

So connected by NinJam, Peter Th=F0rn from Sweden, Jim Goodin from NY, Jeff
Duke and Ray Istorico both from Florida, will meet under one World Wide Web
and continue to define their muse that is,
'DigItSignal'<http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=3Dapp_2344061033&ref=3Dmf=
&gid=3D228256868467#/pages/DigItSignal/259601423959?ref=3Dts>,
join us.

*8am PST, 10am CST, 11am EST, 4pm UK, 5pm western Europe, 12mn Japan.  for
specific to your area visit
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html.*
**
**
*Jim*


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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
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<div class=3D"description"><em>8am PST, 10am CST, 11am EST, 4pm UK, 5pm wes=
tern Europe, 12mn Japan.=A0 for specific to your area visit <a href=3D"http=
://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html">http://www.timeanddate.co=
m/worldclock/converter.html</a>.</em></div>

<div class=3D"description"><em></em>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"description"><em></em>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"description"><em>Jim</em></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>R=
eUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/=
CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
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What other gadget would you recommend?
Cheers,
-- G.

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>Hello
>No such thing as 9/7. If one gadget only does 4/4 then write everything =
in 4/4=20
>& count as hemiola or get another gadget that has more time signiture =
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>Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Thanks Raphael,

I appreciate the promo code offer, but I'm happy to pay the $4. My question
would be how do I hook my guitar (or other instrument) up to my iPod touch?

Your apps timing is great with all the interest the iPad is generating as a
music controller. Good Luck!

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Rapha=EBl - Mancing Dolecules <
raphael@mancingdolecules.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone !
>
> I'm Rapha=EBl, indy iPhone developer, amateur guitarist and looper
> lover. I usually and still use an Electrix Repeater and a RC20XL,
> which wonderfully do their job, but when I first get my hands on an
> iPhone, some ideas began to pop up and they eventually came together
> as an app called Everyday Looper.
>
> First, when using the Repeater, I always got the frustration of not
> being able to visualize my recordings, as a waveform provides great
> information about the audio signal that it represents : rhythm, tempo,
> envelop of notes, silences, ... . Even more great is that it does it
> in 2D, meaning that wherever the play cursor is, I can view these
> infos for the entire length of my loop, so I have a representation of
> the future before hearing it. Translated into facts, Everyday Looper
> displays its four tracks (yes, like the Repeater ^^) waveform in full
> screen. No buttons or anything to clutter the space.
>
> Then I wanted a "joyfull" way to interact with the looper. Real knobs,
> buttons and foot switches are totally cool, but, let's face it, an
> iPhone doesn't have any ... Virtual buttons are off, because of the
> first feature up here and because I don't like them, simply. So I go
> for multi-touch gestures instead. For exemple you can tap with two
> fingers to play/pause, swipe simultaneously over multiple tracks to
> change volume, tap and hold a track and drag it to its destination to
> merge ... That gives a great feeling of interacting directly with
> audio.
>
> And last, I wanted it to assist us in every way possible. So you will
> find features as auto-normalisation, a limiter on both merge path and
> final mix path, and quantized to loop recording.
>
> As I see it, there is two major family of looper users (and of course
> all the shades in-between). The ambient ones, which extensively use
> feedback, overdubbing and can be quite happy with a single loop track.
> The structural ones, for which multiple track, and quantization are
> vital. As you probably guess it, I'm more in the second category, so
> is the looper too. At least for now ^^.
>
> Here is my website if you want more precise information, screenshots,
> videos, ... : http://www.mancingdolecules.com . And here is the direct
> link for download : http://www.itunes.com/app/EverydayLooper .
>
> The app is on sale now (2$/1.6=80/1.2=A3) to celebrate the 1.1 update
> which adds track merging. The usual price will be (5$/4=80/3=A3). But I
> would like to offer you a few promo codes, to download it for free, if
> you have an iTunes US Store account. I can give away 5. Simply write
> me directly through this mail (raphael@mancingdolecules.com) and I
> will happily send you one if their is some left.
>
> Don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, or ask me questions
> if things are unclear. On this mailing list will be fine as I read it
> regularly :).
>
> Cheers !
>
> Rapha=EBl
>
>


--=20
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon

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Thanks Raphael,<br><br>I appreciate the promo code offer, but I&#39;m happy=
 to pay the $4. My question would be how do I hook my guitar (or other inst=
rument) up to my iPod touch?<br><br>Your apps timing is great with all the =
interest the iPad is generating as a music controller. Good Luck!<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Rapha=EBl -=
 Mancing Dolecules <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:raphael@mancingd=
olecules.com">raphael@mancingdolecules.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 20=
4); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Everyone !<br>
<br>
I&#39;m Rapha=EBl, indy iPhone developer, amateur guitarist and looper<br>
lover. I usually and still use an Electrix Repeater and a RC20XL,<br>
which wonderfully do their job, but when I first get my hands on an<br>
iPhone, some ideas began to pop up and they eventually came together<br>
as an app called Everyday Looper.<br>
<br>
First, when using the Repeater, I always got the frustration of not<br>
being able to visualize my recordings, as a waveform provides great<br>
information about the audio signal that it represents : rhythm, tempo,<br>
envelop of notes, silences, ... . Even more great is that it does it<br>
in 2D, meaning that wherever the play cursor is, I can view these<br>
infos for the entire length of my loop, so I have a representation of<br>
the future before hearing it. Translated into facts, Everyday Looper<br>
displays its four tracks (yes, like the Repeater ^^) waveform in full<br>
screen. No buttons or anything to clutter the space.<br>
<br>
Then I wanted a &quot;joyfull&quot; way to interact with the looper. Real k=
nobs,<br>
buttons and foot switches are totally cool, but, let&#39;s face it, an<br>
iPhone doesn&#39;t have any ... Virtual buttons are off, because of the<br>
first feature up here and because I don&#39;t like them, simply. So I go<br=
>
for multi-touch gestures instead. For exemple you can tap with two<br>
fingers to play/pause, swipe simultaneously over multiple tracks to<br>
change volume, tap and hold a track and drag it to its destination to<br>
merge ... That gives a great feeling of interacting directly with<br>
audio.<br>
<br>
And last, I wanted it to assist us in every way possible. So you will<br>
find features as auto-normalisation, a limiter on both merge path and<br>
final mix path, and quantized to loop recording.<br>
<br>
As I see it, there is two major family of looper users (and of course<br>
all the shades in-between). The ambient ones, which extensively use<br>
feedback, overdubbing and can be quite happy with a single loop track.<br>
The structural ones, for which multiple track, and quantization are<br>
vital. As you probably guess it, I&#39;m more in the second category, so<br=
>
is the looper too. At least for now ^^.<br>
<br>
Here is my website if you want more precise information, screenshots,<br>
videos, ... : <a href=3D"http://www.mancingdolecules.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://www.mancingdolecules.com</a> . And here is the direct<br>
link for download : <a href=3D"http://www.itunes.com/app/EverydayLooper" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.itunes.com/app/EverydayLooper</a> .<br>
<br>
The app is on sale now (2$/1.6=80/1.2=A3) to celebrate the 1.1 update<br>
which adds track merging. The usual price will be (5$/4=80/3=A3). But I<br>
would like to offer you a few promo codes, to download it for free, if<br>
you have an iTunes US Store account. I can give away 5. Simply write<br>
me directly through this mail (<a href=3D"mailto:raphael@mancingdolecules.c=
om">raphael@mancingdolecules.com</a>) and I<br>
will happily send you one if their is some left.<br>
<br>
Don&#39;t hesitate to tell me what you think about it, or ask me questions<=
br>
if things are unclear. On this mailing list will be fine as I read it<br>
regularly :).<br>
<br>
Cheers !<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Rapha=EBl<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Art Simon<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com">simart@gmail.com</a><br>myspace [dot] com/=
artsimon<br>

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/top20-01jan.html

WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for January, 2010.
Shows #666 to #669; 7-January-2010 to 28-January-2010
Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order.
Compiled by Bill Fox
website: http://galactictravels.info
RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml
MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels
Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829

The Special Focus for January was <a 
href="http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#jan" 
target="gt" title="Click here to go to the Special Focus page for 
information and links.">Steve Roach</a>.



ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL
===========================================================
Alpha Wave Movement - Cosmic Mandala - HRR
Andreas Akwara - Quantum - Groove
Arcane - Tomorrow's Wasteland - Paul Lawler Music
Between Interval - The Edge of a Fairytale - Spotted
                                             Peccary
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TOWN LAGOS.<BR>EMAIL: uuu19476@googlemail.com <BR><BR>DEAR SIR,<BR><BR>AFTER
A SERIOUS THOUGHT, AS I EARLIER SAID, I DECIDED TO REACH YOU DIRECTLY AND
PERSONALLY BECAUSEI DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST YOU, BUT YOUR NIGERIAN
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SAW THAT THEIR THREAT DID NOT WORK, AND STARTED BRIBING OTHER OFFICIALS TO
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HERE AND REQUESTED THAT I ASSIST THEM CONCLUDE A MONEY TRANSFER DEAL.THEY
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COMPUTING<BR>SYSTEM IN THE LAB SO THAT IT WILL APPEAR AS IF YOU ARE ONE OF
THE GENUINE BENEFICIARY THAT HAVE BEEN CLEARED FOR PAYMENT. ACCORDING TO
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GET ANOTHER APPROVAL TO TRANSFER THE MONEY TO YOU WITHOUT SUCCESS.<BR><BR>I
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PAY ANY AMOUNT THEY WILL ASK YOU TO PAY NOW, AFTER A SHORT TIME THEY WILL
COME UP WITH ANOTHER REASON TO PAY AGAIN AND IT GOES ON AND ON. THEY ARE
SIMPLY WICKED. NOW IF YOU WANT US TO WORK TOGETHER, THESE ARE MY CONDITIONS.
<BR><BR>1. I WILL HAVE 20% OF THE MONEY BECAUSE IT IS ONLY THE TWO OF US
LEFT FOR NOW.<BR><BR>11. YOU WILL ASSIST MY SON TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT IN YOUR
COUNTRY OR ANY OTHER PLACE OF MY CHOICE WHERE I WILL PAY IN MY OWN
SHARE.<BR><BR>III. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WILL BE USELESS AND MERE WASTE OF TIME
AND MONEY IF YOU CONTINUE <BR><BR>WITH ANY OTHER PERSON, SO WE WILL CONCLUDE
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Attn: My Good Friend,

Good day, how are you today?

I am writing to inform you of your Cheque Draft confirmable bank draft the sum of $4,500.000.00. four million five hundred thousand united state dollars. I went to the bank to confirm if the date of expering for the cheque and i find out it getting near for the dead line date and i contacted Mr.Ahmed Zafa the Director of Financial Trust Bank told me that before the cheque will get to your hand that it will not valid anymore. So I told him to cash the $4.500,000.00 USD UNITED state dollars to cash payment to avoid losting this funds.However, all the necessary arrangement of delivering the $4.500,000.00 USD UNITED STATES DOLLARS in cash was made with FedEx Courier COMPANY Ltd here in Cotonou Benin Republic,Mr.Ahmed Zafa the Director of Financial Trust Bank Cotonou have to package the sum of $4.500,000.00 USD in cash for me. Then he also agreed to help me to Register the Consignment with FedEx Courier COMPANY.

Infact I thank God for all the movement I made, every thing goes normally.As for our agreement with the FedEx Courier Company they promised that your consignment will leave this Country on friday this week,But the Director of the FedEx Courier COMPANY said that they need your contacts informations to enable them meet up with you immediately the Diplomat Agent arrived to your Country.Please write a letter of application to the given address below.

DR. Koffi Abbas
Tel: 00229 96606619
E-mail:{fedexdelivery90@hosanna.net}
Website{www.fedex.com}

Please, Send them your contacts information to enable them locate you immediately they arrive in your country with your BOXes .
This is what they need from you,

Your Full Name ===============
Your Home Address=============
Your current Numbers==========
Your Cel Numbers==============
You personal identification===

SHIPMENT CODE AWB 33XZS
PACKAGE REGISTERED CODE NO XGT442.
SECURITY CODE SCTC/2001DHX/567/
TRANSACTION CODE 233/CSTC/101/33028/
CERTIFICATE DEPOSIT CODE SCTC/BUN/xxiv/-78/01

Please make sure you send this needed information to the Director general of Fedex Courier COMPANY DR.KOFFI ABBAS with the address given to you. Note.The Fedex Courier COMPANY don't know the contents of the Box. I registered it as family value ables and treasure They don't know it contents money.this is to avoid delay during the delivering of the BOX. don't let them know that is money that is in that Box and take note that i have paid for the delivery charge and also the insurance coverages they requested but the only fees which they will required before the funds will be delivery to you is their security keeping fees of $105USD.I am waiting for your urgent response. You can even call the Director of FedEx Courier COMPANY with this line: 00229 96606619.

Thanks and Remain Blessed,
Best Regards,
MRS.SHELLA BURNS


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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><br><br><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Attn: My Good Friend,</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Good day, how are you today?</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">I am writing to inform you of your Cheque Draft confirmable bank draft the sum of $4,500.000.00. four million five hundred thousand united state dollars. I went to the bank to confirm if the date of expering for the cheque and i find out it getting near for the dead line date and i contacted Mr.Ahmed Zafa the Director of Financial Trust Bank told me that before the cheque will get to your hand that it will not valid anymore. So I told him to cash the $4.500,000.00 USD UNITED state dollars to cash payment to
 avoid losting this funds.However, all the necessary arrangement of delivering the $4.500,000.00 USD UNITED STATES DOLLARS in cash was made with FedEx Courier COMPANY Ltd here in Cotonou Benin Republic,Mr.Ahmed Zafa the Director of Financial Trust Bank Cotonou have to package the sum of $4.500,000.00 USD in cash for me. Then he also agreed to help me to Register the Consignment with FedEx Courier COMPANY.</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Infact I thank God for all the movement I made, every thing goes normally.As for our agreement with the FedEx Courier Company they promised that your consignment will leave this Country on friday this week,But the Director of the FedEx Courier COMPANY said that they need your contacts informations to enable them meet up with you immediately the Diplomat Agent arrived to your Country.Please write a letter of application to the given address
 below.</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DR. Koffi Abbas</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Tel: 00229 96606619</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">E-mail:{fedexdelivery90@hosanna.net}</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Website{www.fedex.com}</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Please, Send them your contacts information to enable them locate you immediately they arrive in your country with your BOXes .</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">This is what they need from you,</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Your Full Name ===============</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Your Home
 Address=============</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Your current Numbers==========</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Your Cel Numbers==============</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">You personal identification===</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">SHIPMENT CODE AWB 33XZS</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">PACKAGE REGISTERED CODE NO XGT442.</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">SECURITY CODE SCTC/2001DHX/567/</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">TRANSACTION CODE 233/CSTC/101/33028/</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">CERTIFICATE DEPOSIT CODE SCTC/BUN/xxiv/-78/01</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span
 style="font-weight: bold;">Please make sure you send this needed information to the Director general of Fedex Courier COMPANY DR.KOFFI ABBAS with the address given to you. Note.The Fedex Courier COMPANY don't know the contents of the Box. I registered it as family value ables and treasure They don't know it contents money.this is to avoid delay during the delivering of the BOX. don't let them know that is money that is in that Box and take note that i have paid for the delivery charge and also the insurance coverages they requested but the only fees which they will required before the funds will be delivery to you is their security keeping fees of $105USD.I am waiting for your urgent response. You can even call the Director of FedEx Courier COMPANY with this line: 00229 96606619.</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Thanks and Remain Blessed,</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span
 style="font-weight: bold;">Best Regards,</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">MRS.SHELLA BURNS</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"></td></tr></table>
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<BR><BR>--<BR>DR. JOSEPH SANUSI.<BR>25,SUITE 2B, C.B.N ESTATE <BR>SATELLITE
TOWN LAGOS.<BR>EMAIL: uuu19476@googlemail.com <BR><BR>DEAR SIR,<BR><BR>AFTER
A SERIOUS THOUGHT, AS I EARLIER SAID, I DECIDED TO REACH YOU DIRECTLY AND
PERSONALLY BECAUSEI DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST YOU, BUT YOUR NIGERIAN
PARTNERS. I AM THE<BR>DIRECTOR OF WIRE TRANSFER/TELEX DEPARTMENT OF THE
CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA, SOME TIME IN THE PAST YOUR NIGERIAN PARTNERS
APPROACHED ME THROUGH A FRIEND OF MINE WHO WORKS WITH ONE OF THE MINISTRIES
HERE AND REQUESTED THAT I ASSIST THEM CONCLUDE A MONEY TRANSFER DEAL.THEY
GAVE ME YOUR NAME, AND BANK PARTICULARS AND TOLD ME TO PUT THEM INTO OUR
COMPUTING<BR>SYSTEM IN THE LAB SO THAT IT WILL APPEAR AS IF YOU ARE ONE OF
THE GENUINE BENEFICIARY THAT HAVE BEEN CLEARED FOR PAYMENT. ACCORDING TO
THEM, THEY WANTED TO USE THIS STRATEGY TO TRANSFER A HUGE AMOUNT OF UNITED
STATES DOLLARS WHICH THEY ACCUMULATED INHERITANCE FUNDS AND THE MONEY HAS
BEEN FLOATING IN THE CBN SINCE THEN ON YOUR NAME. WE AGREED THAT ONCE I DO
THIS, THEY WOULD GIVE ME S$100,000.00 AND GIVE ME ANOTHER US$100,000.00 WHEN
I RELEASE THE FUND TO YOUR ACCOUNT. <BR><BR>WHEN THEY SAW THAT I HAVE DONE
IT AND YOUR NAME HAS BEEN APPROVED AMONG THE LIST OF THOSE TO BE PAID,
INSTEAD OF GIVING ME THE AGREED DEPOSIT OF US$100,000.00, THEY STARTED
AVOIDING ME AND RESORTED TO THREATS. I IMMEDIATELY DELETED THE TRANSFER CODE
OF THE FUND, WHICH IS ONLY KNOWN TO ME BECAUSE OF MY POSITION, AND RELEASED
OTHER CONTRACTORS FUND WITHOUT YOURS. THEY BECAME ANGRY THE MORE WHEN THEY
SAW THAT THEIR THREAT DID NOT WORK, AND STARTED BRIBING OTHER OFFICIALS TO
GET ANOTHER APPROVAL TO TRANSFER THE MONEY TO YOU WITHOUT SUCCESS.<BR><BR>I
WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I AM 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DELAY AND OBSTRUCTIONS
BECAUSE OF THEIR BREACH OF CONTRACT. IF YOU DOUBT WHAT I HAVE JUST TOLD YOU,
PAY ANY AMOUNT THEY WILL ASK YOU TO PAY NOW, AFTER A SHORT TIME THEY WILL
COME UP WITH ANOTHER REASON TO PAY AGAIN AND IT GOES ON AND ON. THEY ARE
SIMPLY WICKED. NOW IF YOU WANT US TO WORK TOGETHER, THESE ARE MY CONDITIONS.
<BR><BR>1. I WILL HAVE 20% OF THE MONEY BECAUSE IT IS ONLY THE TWO OF US
LEFT FOR NOW.<BR><BR>11. YOU WILL ASSIST MY SON TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT IN YOUR
COUNTRY OR ANY OTHER PLACE OF MY CHOICE WHERE I WILL PAY IN MY OWN
SHARE.<BR><BR>III. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WILL BE USELESS AND MERE WASTE OF TIME
AND MONEY IF YOU CONTINUE <BR><BR>WITH ANY OTHER PERSON, SO WE WILL CONCLUDE
THIS TRANSACTION WITH UTMOST SECRECY.<BR><BR>IV. YOU WILL PROVIDE ME WITH
YOUR PRIVATE TELEPHONE, MOBILE AND FAX NUMBERS ASWELL AS YOUR
<BR><BR>PRIVATE EMAIL I.D. (IF ANY) TO FACILITATE EASY COMMUNICATION BETWEEN
YOU AND I ONLY. <BR><BR>IF THESE CONDITIONS ARE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, CONTACT
ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE VIA MY PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS AS FOLLOWS: (
uuu19476@googlemail.com ) TO LET US FINALIZE, SO THAT THE FUNDS CAN BE
RELEASED TO YOUR ACCOUNT AFTER DUE PROTOCOLS HAS BEEN OBSERVED. BUT IF YOU
ARE NOT INTERESTED, I ADVICE YOU TO FORGET THE FUND AND STOP WAISTING YOUR
TIME WITH YOUR SO CALLED PARTNERS.<BR><BR>BEST REGARDS.<BR>DR. JOSEPH
SANUSI.<BR><BR><BR>________________________________________________Message
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<BR><BR>--<BR>DR. JOSEPH SANUSI.<BR>25,SUITE 2B, C.B.N ESTATE <BR>SATELLITE
TOWN LAGOS.<BR>EMAIL: uuu19476@googlemail.com <BR><BR>DEAR SIR,<BR><BR>AFTER
A SERIOUS THOUGHT, AS I EARLIER SAID, I DECIDED TO REACH YOU DIRECTLY AND
PERSONALLY BECAUSEI DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST YOU, BUT YOUR NIGERIAN
PARTNERS. I AM THE<BR>DIRECTOR OF WIRE TRANSFER/TELEX DEPARTMENT OF THE
CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA, SOME TIME IN THE PAST YOUR NIGERIAN PARTNERS
APPROACHED ME THROUGH A FRIEND OF MINE WHO WORKS WITH ONE OF THE MINISTRIES
HERE AND REQUESTED THAT I ASSIST THEM CONCLUDE A MONEY TRANSFER DEAL.THEY
GAVE ME YOUR NAME, AND BANK PARTICULARS AND TOLD ME TO PUT THEM INTO OUR
COMPUTING<BR>SYSTEM IN THE LAB SO THAT IT WILL APPEAR AS IF YOU ARE ONE OF
THE GENUINE BENEFICIARY THAT HAVE BEEN CLEARED FOR PAYMENT. ACCORDING TO
THEM, THEY WANTED TO USE THIS STRATEGY TO TRANSFER A HUGE AMOUNT OF UNITED
STATES DOLLARS WHICH THEY ACCUMULATED INHERITANCE FUNDS AND THE MONEY HAS
BEEN FLOATING IN THE CBN SINCE THEN ON YOUR NAME. WE AGREED THAT ONCE I DO
THIS, THEY WOULD GIVE ME S$100,000.00 AND GIVE ME ANOTHER US$100,000.00 WHEN
I RELEASE THE FUND TO YOUR ACCOUNT. <BR><BR>WHEN THEY SAW THAT I HAVE DONE
IT AND YOUR NAME HAS BEEN APPROVED AMONG THE LIST OF THOSE TO BE PAID,
INSTEAD OF GIVING ME THE AGREED DEPOSIT OF US$100,000.00, THEY STARTED
AVOIDING ME AND RESORTED TO THREATS. I IMMEDIATELY DELETED THE TRANSFER CODE
OF THE FUND, WHICH IS ONLY KNOWN TO ME BECAUSE OF MY POSITION, AND RELEASED
OTHER CONTRACTORS FUND WITHOUT YOURS. THEY BECAME ANGRY THE MORE WHEN THEY
SAW THAT THEIR THREAT DID NOT WORK, AND STARTED BRIBING OTHER OFFICIALS TO
GET ANOTHER APPROVAL TO TRANSFER THE MONEY TO YOU WITHOUT SUCCESS.<BR><BR>I
WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I AM 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DELAY AND OBSTRUCTIONS
BECAUSE OF THEIR BREACH OF CONTRACT. IF YOU DOUBT WHAT I HAVE JUST TOLD YOU,
PAY ANY AMOUNT THEY WILL ASK YOU TO PAY NOW, AFTER A SHORT TIME THEY WILL
COME UP WITH ANOTHER REASON TO PAY AGAIN AND IT GOES ON AND ON. THEY ARE
SIMPLY WICKED. NOW IF YOU WANT US TO WORK TOGETHER, THESE ARE MY CONDITIONS.
<BR><BR>1. I WILL HAVE 20% OF THE MONEY BECAUSE IT IS ONLY THE TWO OF US
LEFT FOR NOW.<BR><BR>11. YOU WILL ASSIST MY SON TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT IN YOUR
COUNTRY OR ANY OTHER PLACE OF MY CHOICE WHERE I WILL PAY IN MY OWN
SHARE.<BR><BR>III. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WILL BE USELESS AND MERE WASTE OF TIME
AND MONEY IF YOU CONTINUE <BR><BR>WITH ANY OTHER PERSON, SO WE WILL CONCLUDE
THIS TRANSACTION WITH UTMOST SECRECY.<BR><BR>IV. YOU WILL PROVIDE ME WITH
YOUR PRIVATE TELEPHONE, MOBILE AND FAX NUMBERS ASWELL AS YOUR
<BR><BR>PRIVATE EMAIL I.D. (IF ANY) TO FACILITATE EASY COMMUNICATION BETWEEN
YOU AND I ONLY. <BR><BR>IF THESE CONDITIONS ARE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, CONTACT
ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE VIA MY PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS AS FOLLOWS: (
uuu19476@googlemail.com ) TO LET US FINALIZE, SO THAT THE FUNDS CAN BE
RELEASED TO YOUR ACCOUNT AFTER DUE PROTOCOLS HAS BEEN OBSERVED. BUT IF YOU
ARE NOT INTERESTED, I ADVICE YOU TO FORGET THE FUND AND STOP WAISTING YOUR
TIME WITH YOUR SO CALLED PARTNERS.<BR><BR>BEST REGARDS.<BR>DR. JOSEPH
SANUSI.<BR><BR><BR>________________________________________________Message
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DT just commented on the videos on thegearpage.net

"thanks=2C b.
just caught this thread..... sounds pretty amazingly (sonically) strange=2C=
 on my phone!
i think tb & i will get together=2C next week or so=2C
talk a bit=2C maybe play some.....
dt / spltrcl"
=20
> From: eterogenus@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: David Torn=2CTerry Bozzio=2CTony Levin=2CPat Mastelotto NAMM=
 2010
> Date: Fri=2C 29 Jan 2010 19:40:37 +0100
>=20
>=20
>=20
> "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> ha scritto:
>=20
> > You have to (or not) remember that this was just an impromptu jam=20
> > after Holdsworth bowed out. I think they were just jumping in and=20
> > having some fun jamming. I am not looking at these vids as a musical=20
> > statement from the artists. Sometimes silence is golden no doubt=2C=20
> > but sometimes a wall of sound is called for yes? :) I think we all=20
> > know that these players can and do play with "soul" when they want/=20
> > need to.
>=20
> Not in this case=2C evidently.
> And I'm a fan of each one of them...
> They are all great and experienced musicians and they had some=20
> collaborations in the past.
> So it's very odd that jam was so... "iced"=2C without musical flux.
> My impression is: too much brain and research for impressive musical=20
> solutions=2C heart is missing here...
>=20
> Fabio
> www. eterogeneo.com
>=20
> >
> > peace=2C
> >
> > j
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: <nemoguitt@aol.com>
> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Sent: Friday=2C January 29=2C 2010 12:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: David Torn=2CTerry Bozzio=2CTony Levin=2CPat Mastelotto NA=
MM=20
> > 2010
> >
> >
> >
> > First impression: Lots of noise and thousand notes per minute=2C few
> > soul!
> > www.christojota.de
> > www.myspace.com/christojota
> >
> > same here.....i was greatly underwhelmed by this and felt that there
> > was something wrong with me!
> >
> >
>=20
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DT just commented on the videos on thegearpage.net<BR>
"thanks=2C b.<BR>just caught this thread..... sounds pretty amazingly (soni=
cally) strange=2C on my phone!<BR>i think tb &amp=3B i will get together=2C=
 next week or so=2C<BR>talk a bit=2C maybe play some.....<BR>dt / spltrcl"<=
BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>&gt=3B From: eterogenus@gmail.com<BR>&gt=3B To: Loopers-Deli=
ght@loopers-delight.com<BR>&gt=3B Subject: Re: David Torn=2CTerry Bozzio=2C=
Tony Levin=2CPat Mastelotto NAMM 2010<BR>&gt=3B Date: Fri=2C 29 Jan 2010 19=
:40:37 +0100<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B "Jeff Duke" &lt=3Bj=
eff_d@embarqmail.com&gt=3B ha scritto:<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B You have=
 to (or not) remember that this was just an impromptu jam <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B=
 after Holdsworth bowed out. I think they were just jumping in and <BR>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B having some fun jamming. I am not looking at these vids as a mus=
ical <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B statement from the artists. Sometimes silence is gol=
den no doubt=2C <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B but sometimes a wall of sound is called f=
or yes? :) I think we all <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B know that these players can and=
 do play with "soul" when they want/ <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B need to.<BR>&gt=3B <=
BR>&gt=3B Not in this case=2C evidently.<BR>&gt=3B And I'm a fan of each on=
e of them...<BR>&gt=3B They are all great and experienced musicians and the=
y had some <BR>&gt=3B collaborations in the past.<BR>&gt=3B So it's very od=
d that jam was so... "iced"=2C without musical flux.<BR>&gt=3B My impressio=
n is: too much brain and research for impressive musical <BR>&gt=3B solutio=
ns=2C heart is missing here...<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B Fabio<BR>&gt=3B www. et=
erogeneo.com<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B<BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B peace=2C<BR>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B<BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B j<BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B<BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B ----- Origi=
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LEFT FOR NOW.<BR><BR>11. YOU WILL ASSIST MY SON TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT IN YOUR
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Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at
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Raphaël - Mancing Dolecules wrote:
> Hi Everyone !
> 
> I'm Raphaël, indy iPhone developer, amateur guitarist and looper
> iPhone, some ideas began to pop up and they eventually came together
> as an app called Everyday Looper.
>  http://www.mancingdolecules.com

very interesting user interface.

I can't imagine that anyone on the list who has 
an i-Phone will want to miss out.


> 
> As I see it, there is two major family of looper users (and of course
> all the shades in-between). 

here at LD there are at least 2 other families

andy butler





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Art >

My question would be how do I hook my guitar (or other instrument) up to my
> iPod touch?
>

That's in fact the tricky part ! If your iPod Touch is a 1st generation, th=
e
only possible input is through the dock connector using things as
http://www.alesis.com/protrack or http://www.bluemic.com/mikey/ (which now
has a line in). There is cheaper ones (around 50$), but harder to find.
Normally, you can't download Everyday Looper on such a device, it's flagged
as not compatible. If your iPod Touch is 2 or 3 Gen (with a rounded back),
then in addition to the dock connector, you have a mono input through the 4
pins jack connector. It's intended to be used with headset microphones, but
PRS has release this cable http://www.prscables.com/guitarbud which I have
not had the opportunity to test yet, and Belkin this :
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_ID=3D169368# .

My personal setup is much simple, as I mainly play acoustic guitar, I put m=
y
external headset mic in front of the guitar and that's it.

The iPhone platform is still waiting for a simple stereo line in/out cable,
as it is what contains the dock connector. I hope the iPad will encourage a
constructor to make one (the docks are identical).



Andy >

here at LD there are at least 2 other families
>

You puzzle me with this one, good teasing ^^. Could you develop ?



And thanks you both for your encouragement :).

Rapha=EBl

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04); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">M=
y question would be how do I hook my guitar (or other
instrument) up to my iPod touch?<br></blockquote><div><br>That&#39;s in fac=
t the tricky part ! If your iPod Touch is a 1st generation, the only possib=
le input is through the dock connector using things as <a href=3D"http://ww=
w.alesis.com/protrack">http://www.alesis.com/protrack</a> or <a href=3D"htt=
p://www.bluemic.com/mikey/">http://www.bluemic.com/mikey/</a> (which now ha=
s a line in). There is cheaper ones (around 50$), but harder to find. Norma=
lly, you can&#39;t download Everyday Looper on such a device, it&#39;s flag=
ged as not compatible. If your iPod Touch is 2 or 3 Gen (with a rounded bac=
k), then in addition to the dock connector, you have a mono input through t=
he 4 pins jack connector. It&#39;s intended to be used with headset microph=
ones, but PRS has release this cable <a href=3D"http://www.prscables.com/gu=
itarbud">http://www.prscables.com/guitarbud</a> which I have not had the op=
portunity to test yet, and Belkin this : <a href=3D"http://catalog.belkin.c=
om/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_ID=3D169368#">http://catalog.belkin.com=
/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_ID=3D169368#</a> .<br>
<br>My personal setup is much simple, as I mainly play acoustic guitar, I p=
ut my external headset mic in front of the guitar and that&#39;s it.<br><br=
>The iPhone platform is still waiting for a simple stereo line in/out cable=
, as it is what contains the dock connector. I hope the iPad will encourage=
 a constructor to make one (the docks are identical).<br>
<br><br><br>Andy &gt;<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); ma=
rgin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">here at LD there are at least =
2 other families<font color=3D"#888888"></font><br>
</blockquote><div><br>You puzzle me with this one, good teasing ^^. Could y=
ou develop ?<br><br><br><br>And thanks you both for your encouragement :).<=
br><br>Rapha=EBl<br></div></div>

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>Don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, or ask me questions
>if things are unclear. On this mailing list will be fine as I read it
>regularly :).

Raphael,

Thanks for coding this, and an even greater=20
thanks for giving us the chance to quiz you on it=20
here.

I'm very interested, but I do have one question.=20
In the past, I've purchased some of your=20
competitor's products  and found them to be=20
completely unusable for serious work due to=20
timing discrepancies (Loopy, for example).

It appears that using the touch interface to=20
trigger looping often does NOT result in the sort=20
of critical timing that is necessary for=20
recording useable loops.  You tap the screen to=20
begin recording, and in some cases it's right on.=20
In others, there can be as much as a half-second=20
lag before it starts.  And in a few other=20
instances, it ignores the touch altogether.

IMNSHO, this is not 100% due to the app.  It=20
seems endemic to the iPhone architecture itself=20
and probably stems from the multi-threading=20
architecture (or, more accurately, the lack of=20
it), the pitiful amount of available RAM on the=20
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possibly even the performance of the CPU.  I've=20
had the same sort of lag suddenly attack the=20
keyboard as I've been typing an email, for=20
instance.  It's just that email is not a=20
time-critical application.

What's more, the lag is inconsistent, so it's=20
impossible to compensate for with technique.

I would imagine that there should be a way to=20
somewhat mitigate this in the application.  But=20
since I'm sure a lot of it stems from the iPhone=20
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I'm not trying to be confrontational here, 'cause=20
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Raphaël - Mancing Dolecules wrote:

> 
> Andy >
> 
>     here at LD there are at least 2 other families
> 
> 
> You puzzle me with this one, good teasing ^^. Could you develop ?
> 

very roughly

3) people who feed the audio into a network of delays and fx which
they have (usually) set up themselves. Typically they use max/msp
and play atonally without a beat.


4) Those who play the looping technology like an instrument.
   i.e. they have a similar interaction with the looper as with
    their instrument.
  hmmm...what's a good analogy? perhaps it compares to
   guys who use finger tapping and other techniques to expand
   their guitar music (except not as standardized).


Does that help? perhaps check out some of the music 
available from list members, you'll find plenty that's
on the continuum that you described, but also much that isn't.

andy butler
ps
so, is there an i-Phone SDK?


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I would suggest that in terms of touch-to-action lag, the hardware =
itself could be at fault.  Consider the old cassette decks: pre-solanoid =
switches, one would have lever-based switches, which made it easy to do =
recordings using quick cues, without much machination at all beyond a =
good hand on the pause switch/button.  Then along came the buttons on =
most major manufacturer's cassette decks: no longer the exact manner of =
the pause-unpause per your own innate timing, but rather the learned =
anticipation of the amount of time between your pushing the button and =
(click,rrrr,click click,pomph!) the tape mechanism moving.  If PC-based =
editing had not come along I'd have had difficulty making recordings =
with nearly-non-existent gaps between tracks, because of that simple =
thing.  And it's just not the same process anymore, much less =
spontaneous frankly...

So the possibility that you're contending with touch-to-action lag is =
quite good, IMHO.


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At 12:25 AM +0100 1/30/10, Rapha=EBl - Mancing Dolecules wrote:
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>Don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, or ask me questions
>if things are unclear. On this mailing list will be fine as I read it
>regularly :).

Raphael,

Thanks for coding this, and an even greater=20
thanks for giving us the chance to quiz you on it=20
here.

I'm very interested, but I do have one question.=20
In the past, I've purchased some of your=20
competitor's products  and found them to be=20
completely unusable for serious work due to=20
timing discrepancies (Loopy, for example).

It appears that using the touch interface to=20
trigger looping often does NOT result in the sort=20
of critical timing that is necessary for=20
recording useable loops.  You tap the screen to=20
begin recording, and in some cases it's right on.=20
In others, there can be as much as a half-second=20
lag before it starts.  And in a few other=20
instances, it ignores the touch altogether.

IMNSHO, this is not 100% due to the app.  It=20
seems endemic to the iPhone architecture itself=20
and probably stems from the multi-threading=20
architecture (or, more accurately, the lack of=20
it), the pitiful amount of available RAM on the=20
iPhone (64mb for all applications?!?) and quite=20
possibly even the performance of the CPU.  I've=20
had the same sort of lag suddenly attack the=20
keyboard as I've been typing an email, for=20
instance.  It's just that email is not a=20
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What's more, the lag is inconsistent, so it's=20
impossible to compensate for with technique.

I would imagine that there should be a way to=20
somewhat mitigate this in the application.  But=20
since I'm sure a lot of it stems from the iPhone=20
system, I'm curious what you've done to solve=20
this issue in Everyday Looper.

I'm not trying to be confrontational here, 'cause=20
I'd love to see one of these looping widgets=20
actually work.  It's just that I think there's=20
some limitation with the hardware platform that=20
makes this difficult at best (maybe later when=20
the iPad comes out, there'll be enough horsepower=20
to make it work).  But if you've found a way=20
around the issue, I'm definitely all ears.  :)

Thanks again!!!

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or ask=20
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to=20
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timing=20
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screen to=20
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the=20
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mitigate this in the application.&nbsp; But <BR>since I'm sure a lot of =
it stems=20
from the iPhone <BR>system, I'm curious what you've done to solve =
<BR>this issue=20
in Everyday Looper.<BR><BR>I'm not trying to be confrontational here, =
'cause=20
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work.&nbsp; It's=20
just that I think there's <BR>some limitation with the hardware platform =
that=20
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out,=20
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found a=20
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Mech >

Thanks for coding this, and an even greater thanks for giving us the chance
> to quiz you on it here.
> I'm not trying to be confrontational here
>

Have no fear about that, I know exactly what to expect when posting here ^^.
And that's what I'm looking for too : experienced looper users (and even
makers) feedback/questions.

IMNSHO, this is not 100% due to the app.  It seems endemic to the iPhone
> architecture itself and probably stems from the multi-threading architecture
> (or, more accurately, the lack of it), the pitiful amount of available RAM
> on the iPhone (64mb for all applications?!?) and quite possibly even the
> performance of the CPU.  I've had the same sort of lag suddenly attack the
> keyboard as I've been typing an email, for instance.  It's just that email
> is not a time-critical application.
>

That's the better part to start with. So in fact, you are totally right, the
iPhone is not a "real-time" system, and despite being mono-task, it's highly
multi-threaded due to the OS demons and Apple's background application (such
as Mail). The iPhone is before all a phone, so it has at least to monitor
the network. One first step to decrease CPU charge (and so possible lag) is
by switching to Airplane mode, as it will basically turn your iPhone into a
temporary iPod Touch ^^. That's user side of course, but in real-life test
it's not that much relevant.

I'm very interested, but I do have one question. In the past, I've purchased
> some of your competitor's products  and found them to be completely unusable
> for serious work due to timing discrepancies (Loopy, for example).
>
> It appears that using the touch interface to trigger looping often does NOT
> result in the sort of critical timing that is necessary for recording
> useable loops.  You tap the screen to begin recording, and in some cases
> it's right on. In others, there can be as much as a half-second lag before
> it starts.  And in a few other instances, it ignores the touch altogether.
>
> What's more, the lag is inconsistent, so it's impossible to compensate for
> with technique.
>

Everyday Looper has noticeable lag too between the moment when you pull off
a finger off the screen and when the action is effectively executed. It's
due to various things, one being that both the "touch manager" and the
"graphic manager" has to act in the main thread (receiving messages for
"touch manager", sending openGL command for "graphic manager"). So no way to
prioritize touches over gaphics. At least with the iPhone OS I'm targeting
now (2.2). In 3.1 their is a way to thread the "graphic manager". What is
important is that this latency is not inconsistent, due to thread
priorities. It can vary between devices (iPod Touch / iPhone Edge / 3GS),
but will stay almost constant. I have great room for improvement on that
part, thanks to that. And it will never ignore touches. I have to compensate
audio latency too. For now I'm in the 35-40 ms overall latency range, and I
will certainly never approach the 1-3ms latency of embedded systems. But I'm
quite confident in approaching the 15-20 ms area. And you can count on me to
come back here with numbers ^^ !

I would imagine that there should be a way to somewhat mitigate this in the
> application.  But since I'm sure a lot of it stems from the iPhone system,
> I'm curious what you've done to solve this issue in Everyday Looper.
>

I use a work-around however. I have option in the looper to generate a click
track which is basically X clicks at Y BPM, and that will act as an exact
loop length setter. Then I use quantized to loop recording (which is sample
accurate), and all the touch input related latency is gone. But that
solution doesn't fit to everyone, I know that.

Thank for your savvy and challenging questions Mech :) !


Andy >

3) people who feed the audio into a network of delays and fx which
> they have (usually) set up themselves. Typically they use max/msp
> and play atonally without a beat.
>
>
> 4) Those who play the looping technology like an instrument.
>  i.e. they have a similar interaction with the looper as with
>   their instrument.
>  hmmm...what's a good analogy? perhaps it compares to
>  guys who use finger tapping and other techniques to expand
>  their guitar music (except not as standardized).
>

For the 3) I was totally off. In fact it's like designing it's own "organic"
looper. A bit like what RJDJ does on the iPhone for certain "interactive
songs".

For the 4) certainly, I totally see what you are taking about. I have
(long-term) plans for adding tools that will enable more core interactions
with the looper. Even if some possibilities are already here, like
ultra-short granular-like loops, or in-place overwrite recording.

so, is there an i-Phone SDK?
>

Yes, that's what I (and the other hundred thousands iPhone devs) use. You
can download it for free at http://developer.apple.com/iphone/ , but will
have to pay 99$/year to be able to test on a real device and sell on the
AppStore.


Stephen >

I will definitely work on that touch-to-action lag ^^ !

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Mech &gt;<br>
<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
Thanks for coding this, and an even greater thanks for giving us the chance=
 to quiz you on it here.<br>I&#39;m not trying to be confrontational here<b=
r></blockquote><div><br>Have no fear about that, I know exactly what to exp=
ect when posting here ^^. And that&#39;s what I&#39;m looking for too : exp=
erienced looper users (and even makers) feedback/questions.<br>
</div>
<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">

IMNSHO, this is not 100% due to the app. =A0It seems endemic to the
iPhone architecture itself and probably stems from the multi-threading
architecture (or, more accurately, the lack of it), the pitiful amount
of available RAM on the iPhone (64mb for all applications?!?) and quite
possibly even the performance of the CPU. =A0I&#39;ve had the same sort of
lag suddenly attack the keyboard as I&#39;ve been typing an email, for
instance. =A0It&#39;s just that email is not a time-critical application.<b=
r></blockquote><br>That&#39;s the better part to start with. So in fact, yo=
u are totally right, the iPhone is not a &quot;real-time&quot; system, and =
despite being mono-task, it&#39;s highly multi-threaded due to the OS demon=
s and Apple&#39;s background application (such as Mail). The iPhone is befo=
re all a phone, so it has at least to monitor the network. One first step t=
o decrease CPU charge (and so possible lag) is by switching to Airplane mod=
e, as it will basically turn your iPhone into a temporary iPod Touch ^^. Th=
at&#39;s user side of course, but in real-life test it&#39;s not that much =
relevant.<br>
<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">I&#39;m very =
interested, but I do have one question. In the past, I&#39;ve
purchased some of your competitor&#39;s products =A0and found them to be
completely unusable for serious work due to timing discrepancies
(Loopy, for example).<br><br>

It appears that using the touch interface to trigger looping often does
NOT result in the sort of critical timing that is necessary for
recording useable loops. =A0You tap the screen to begin recording, and in
some cases it&#39;s right on. In others, there can be as much as a
half-second lag before it starts. =A0And in a few other instances, it
ignores the touch altogether.<br><br>

What&#39;s more, the lag is inconsistent, so it&#39;s impossible to compens=
ate for with technique.<br></blockquote><div><br>Everyday Looper has notice=
able lag too between the moment when you pull off a finger off the screen a=
nd when the action is effectively executed. It&#39;s due to various things,=
 one being that both the &quot;touch manager&quot; and the &quot;graphic ma=
nager&quot; has to act in the main thread (receiving messages for &quot;tou=
ch manager&quot;, sending openGL command for &quot;graphic manager&quot;). =
So no way to prioritize touches over gaphics. At least with the iPhone OS I=
&#39;m targeting now (2.2). In 3.1 their is a way to thread the &quot;graph=
ic manager&quot;. What is important is that this latency is not inconsisten=
t, due to thread priorities. It can vary between devices (iPod Touch / iPho=
ne Edge / 3GS), but will stay almost constant. I have great room for improv=
ement on that part, thanks to that. And it will never ignore touches. I hav=
e to compensate audio latency too. For now I&#39;m in the 35-40 ms overall =
latency range, and I will certainly never approach the 1-3ms latency of emb=
edded systems. But I&#39;m quite confident in approaching the 15-20 ms area=
. And you can count on me to come back here with numbers ^^ !<br>
</div>

<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
I would imagine that there should be a way to somewhat mitigate this in
the application. =A0But since I&#39;m sure a lot of it stems from the iPhon=
e
system, I&#39;m curious what you&#39;ve done to solve this issue in Everyda=
y
Looper.<br></blockquote>
<br>I use a work-around however. I have option in the looper to generate a =
click track which is basically X clicks at Y BPM, and that will act as an e=
xact loop length setter. Then I use quantized to loop recording (which is s=
ample accurate), and all the touch input related latency is gone. But that =
solution doesn&#39;t fit to everyone, I know that.<br>

<br>
Thank for your savvy and challenging questions Mech :) !<br><br><br>Andy &g=
t;<br><br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); m=
argin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">3) peop=
le who feed the audio into a network of delays and fx which<br>


they have (usually) set up themselves. Typically they use max/msp<br>

and play atonally without a beat.<br><br><br>

4) Those who play the looping technology like an instrument.<br>

 =A0i.e. they have a similar interaction with the looper as with<br>

 =A0 their instrument.<br>

=A0hmmm...what&#39;s a good analogy? perhaps it compares to<br>

 =A0guys who use finger tapping and other techniques to expand<br>

 =A0their guitar music (except not as standardized).<br></blockquote><div><=
br>For the 3) I was totally off. In fact it&#39;s like designing it&#39;s o=
wn &quot;organic&quot; looper. A bit like what RJDJ does on the iPhone for =
certain &quot;interactive songs&quot;.<br>
<br>For the 4) certainly, I totally see what you are taking about. I have (=
long-term) plans for adding tools that will enable more core interactions w=
ith the looper. Even if some possibilities are already here, like ultra-sho=
rt granular-like loops, or in-place overwrite recording.<br>
<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">so, is there =
an i-Phone SDK?<br></blockquote><br>Yes, that&#39;s what I (and the other h=
undred thousands iPhone devs) use. You can download it for free at <a href=
=3D"http://developer.apple.com/iphone/">http://developer.apple.com/iphone/<=
/a> , but will have to pay 99$/year to be able to test on a real device and=
 sell on the AppStore.<br>
<br><br>Stephen &gt;<br><br>I will definitely work on that touch-to-action =
lag ^^ !<br></div>

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http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2010/100130.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts.  When
Bill is at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you
can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock,
and an eclectic mix of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00
am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  Bill also hosts
Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.

               Show #166                January 30, 2010.

On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music
magazine.  Each contemporary issue comes with a CD.  However, the early
issues came with a cassette.  The cassettes from issues one through
thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic
slip covers with artwork and track details.  Details are at:
http://sequencesmagazine.com


Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
VA [Merge]           Vaoprizer            Sequences No. 8
VA [R. S. Thompson]  Electric Actuality   Sequences No. 8
VA [Nick Magnus]     Walkabout            Sequences No. 8
Rene van der Wouden  Pin Drop             Universal Quiet (Rewo)
Rene van der Wouden  Part 1               Numerus Fixus (Rewo)


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Ann Sweeten          December Snow        Just This Side of Spring
                                           (Orange Band)
Lia Scallon          The First Little     Songs to Soothe the Soul (The
                      Angel on Earth       Sounds ofSirius)
Christopher Tin      Mado Kara Mieru      Calling All Dawns (none)
Emmanuel Ax, Yo-Yo   Piano Trio No. 1 in  Mendelssohn Piano Trios (Sony
 Ma, and Itzhak       D Minor, Op.49       Classical)
 Pearlman             IV. Allegro assai
                      appassionato


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
It Bites             Oh My God            The Tall Ships (none)
Michael Gill         Arrakis              Blues for Lazarus (Progrock)
Echoes               Epilogue (...Is      Nature | Existence (Progrock)
                      Where We Start)
Echoes               Rude Awakening       Nature | Existence (Progrock)
Echoes               Leaf Motif           Nature | Existence (Progrock)
Jupiter Society      Rescue and           Terraform (Progrock)
                      Resurrection


* = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill
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Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every
other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00/ITZ-5:00).
Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from
"Beyond the Barriers."
Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm
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Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at
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Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com
RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml
Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml
========================================================================
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post playlists or track airplay?  The progdj list solves that problem.

The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD
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<FONT color=#000000><B>34 PALE ROAD</B></FONT><BR>
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<FONT color=#000000><B>Dear Friend,</B></FONT><FONT color=#000000> </FONT></DIV>
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<FONT color=#000000><B>I must apologize on the strange manner I have jumped into your private e-mail, on my quest for a reliable and trusted partner for a highly important and lucrative venture cum investment. I came across your contact as a reliable partner for this venture. I am {Barrister Michael Ikenga} A registered Legal practitioner with federal republic of Nigeria and personal Attorney to an {FOREING CITIZEN} who owns a Textile company in My country.</B></FONT><FONT color=#000000> </FONT></DIV>
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<FONT color=#000000><B>Fervent valuable efforts are being made by the Bank to locate his next-of-kin without success. I personally tried reaching his home in the states with the phone number he left with me before his untimely death (5093450336),this phone has be disconnected.</B></FONT><FONT color=#000000> </FONT></DIV>
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<FONT color=#000000><B>A few days ago I received a letter from the bank mandating me as his personal attorney to provide the next of kin to my Late client within the next 14 bank working days, or have his account declared "UNSERVICEABLE OR HAVE IT CONFISICATED " I now seek your permission to have your name {STAND}as a next-of-kin to my Late client so that the bank would have the fund released and paid intoyour bank account as the beneficiary next-of-kin, all documents and proves to enable you get this fund US$6m are in place.</B></FONT><FONT color=#000000> </FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 color=#000000 face="Times New Roman"><B>Barrister Michael Ikenga "</B></FONT><FONT color=#000000> </FONT></DIV>
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<FONT color=#000000><B>As soon as all these information is being sent i will forward it immediately to the holding bank where my late client deposited his fund for them to contact you as the new true next of kin to my late client,</B></FONT><FONT color=#000000> </FONT></DIV>
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Yes, I use it frequently in odd timings and it's pretty solid. A cool
thing on Ableton is that you can type in different time signatures for
different scenes in the master track, so whenever you activate that
scene, the time signature will change automatically. It's pretty
useful if you're playing a song that keeps changing from 5/4 to 6/4,
for example.

Cheers,
Alex

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Matt Stevens
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> Hi guys!!!
> As usual i need your help.
> Has anyone used ableton in 9/8 or 5/8?? Does it warp ok in odd timings?
> Thanks loads
> Matt Stevens
> www.mattstevensguitar.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
>
>
>

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  When i first looked at this video, my first impression was: oh no,  
not another NAMM show performance. From several years of making the  
trip to Anaheim one thing is nearly certain for me; musicians no  
matter how established and revered, seem to play  differently in that  
environment, regardless of whether they are playing on the show room  
floor or some after hours Hotel Ballroom gig.  Louder, faster, more  
self indulgent.  We've discussed this before NAMM Show Chops!!!!!   
There are exceptions of course.
   My second impression regarding DT was, man! I wonder how nervous he  
is filling in for AH?  I know I would be. AH is just so far beyond the  
harmonic concept and technique of most mortals, even a guy like DT   
who is nothing short of brilliant in his own right.  But  I was oddly  
unmoved by musicians I hold in the highest regard.  Maybe its just  
that, for me  melody and subtlety  are  more important that dissonance  
and angularity,  but that's just my taste these days.  I know some of  
you out there think this is the shiznit. And I must say I tend to  
dismiss footage I see taken from an I-phone or handheld recording  
device, because they simply cannot give a true impression of the sound  
and atmosphere of the performance,I don't care how good the vantage  
point is.  Also, night shows at NAMM are some of the loudest I have  
ever experienced. its as if everyone including the sound people are  
ear fatigued from  being in the showrooms all day, and they want it  
LOUD!! I applaud all of those guys for getting on stage and winging  
it, but particularly in that environment, it is a risky thing to do.  
You are playing in front of a well lubricated  industry audience that  
is hooting and hollering and practically demanding self indulgence and  
wanting it loud and rocking, as if to say Ok, show us what you got,  
e...... and you are doing pure improvisation. Yikes thats brave!  And  
having four brilliant musicians doing it is no guarantee that the  
results are going to be stellar.  As i witnessed years ago watching an  
Allstar ECM jam it seems that many jazz musicians and jazz rock guys  
seem to equate improvisation with getting exploratory and "taking it  
out", and sometimes when you get so many cooks doing this the results  
can be chaotic, catharsis to some and noise to others.  For me this  
wasn't a great performance, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to  
buy a ticket to see them perform if given the chance.
Bill

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>>
>> Rainer wrote:
> You should rather not get a stick - for various reasons explained  
> here by a looper:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky7t0UGaYaw
>
and then wrote:
> For a review from one of us, read here:
> http://loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200305/msg00112.html
>
> First of all as brilliant as Mr Fresno is, he is also a person with  
> an obvious axe to grind, and you have to wonder about a guy who gets  
> so bent out of shape (enough to devote considerable creative energy  
> to write a song about the subject) because a designer won't make  
> little modifications to Brian's exacting needs. You know the Stick  
> works just fine for people like Tony Levin, Tom Greisgraber, and  
> many many other accomplished stick players including Emmet Chapman  
> himself who I  saw in the 70's when he was first unveiling the  
> instrument.  So one might take what BKF says with a grain of salt.  
> There is obviously some other agenda at play.  What ever law suit  
> Chapman has going, there again is the intellectual property issue,  
> Is there any argument that Chapman was the guy to originally  
> conceive of, build, and play the instrument? I think not.
>  Regarding quoting Rick's review, I saw the same show and I have to  
> agree he is an astoundingly gifted musician both incredibly witty  
> and entertaining.  But  that doesn't mean he is the  definitive  
> authority on anything. Methinks the souring of his relationship with  
> Chapman has more to do with Mr Fresno's personality quirks than with  
> Chapman himself. Without going in to detail lets just say that Mr  
> Fresno brings a lot of baggage to the party and I'm not just talking  
> about gear. Neither of these examples in my opinion is enough reason  
> to  change your mind Jim though you might want to check out BKF  
> because he really is amazing. But that video was low brow and mean  
> spirited at best,  but not at all surprising to me. I'm personally  
> not of the opinion that having genius or virtuosity gives one the  
> right to loose your humility or air your dirty laundry.
Bill


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Walker 
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:17 PM
  Subject: OT was David Torn,Terry Bozzio,Tony Levin,Pat Mastelotto NAMM 2010



      Rainer wrote: 
    You should rather not get a stick - for various reasons explained here by a looper:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky7t0UGaYaw
      
  and then wrote:

    For a review from one of us, read here:
    http://loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200305/msg00112.html

    First of all as brilliant as Mr Fresno is, he is also a person with an obvious axe to grind, and you have to wonder about a guy who gets so bent out of shape (enough to devote considerable creative energy to write a song about the subject) because a designer won't make little modifications to Brian's exacting needs. You know the Stick works just fine for people like Tony Levin, Tom Greisgraber, and many many other accomplished stick players including Emmet Chapman himself who I  saw in the 70's when he was first unveiling the instrument.  So one might take what BKF says with a grain of salt. There is obviously some other agenda at play.  What ever law suit Chapman has going, there again is the intellectual property issue, Is there any argument that Chapman was the guy to originally conceive of, build, and play the instrument? I think not.
     Regarding quoting Rick's review, I saw the same show and I have to agree he is an astoundingly gifted musician both incredibly witty and entertaining.  But  that doesn't mean he is the  definitive authority on anything. Methinks the souring of his relationship with Chapman has more to do with Mr Fresno's personality quirks than with Chapman himself. Without going in to detail lets just say that Mr Fresno brings a lot of baggage to the party and I'm not just talking about gear. Neither of these examples in my opinion is enough reason to  change your mind Jim though you might want to check out BKF because he really is amazing. But that video was low brow and mean spirited at best,  but not at all surprising to me. I'm personally not of the opinion that having genius or virtuosity gives one the right to loose your humility or air your dirty laundry. 
  Bill


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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Wait...who wrote what here?</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=billwalker@baymoon.com href="mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com">William 
  Walker</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  title=Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 
  href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:17 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> OT was David Torn,Terry 
  Bozzio,Tony Levin,Pat Mastelotto NAMM 2010</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
    <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR><FONT class=Apple-style-span 
      color=#000000>Rainer wrote:&nbsp;</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>You should rather not 
    get a stick - for various reasons explained here by a looper:<BR><A 
    href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky7t0UGaYaw">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky7t0UGaYaw</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>and 
  then wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">For a review from one of us, read here:<BR><A 
    href="http://loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200305/msg00112.html">http://loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200305/msg00112.html</A><BR><BR><FONT 
    class=Apple-style-span color=#161616>First of all as brilliant as Mr Fresno 
    is, he is also a person with an obvious axe to grind, and you have to wonder 
    about a guy who gets so bent out of shape (enough to devote considerable 
    creative energy to write a song about the subject) because a designer won't 
    make little modifications to Brian's exacting needs. You know the Stick 
    works just fine for people like Tony Levin, Tom Greisgraber, and many many 
    other accomplished stick players including Emmet Chapman himself who I 
    &nbsp;saw in the 70's when he was first unveiling the instrument. &nbsp;So 
    one might take what BKF says with a grain of salt. There is obviously some 
    other agenda at play. &nbsp;What ever law suit Chapman has going, there 
    again is the intellectual property issue, Is there any argument that Chapman 
    was the guy to originally conceive of, build, and play the instrument? I 
    think not.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><FONT class=Apple-style-span 
    color=#161616>&nbsp;Regarding quoting Rick's review, I saw the same show and 
    I have to agree he is an astoundingly gifted musician both incredibly witty 
    and entertaining. &nbsp;But &nbsp;that doesn't mean he is the 
    &nbsp;definitive authority on anything. Methinks the souring of his 
    relationship with Chapman has more to do with Mr Fresno's personality quirks 
    than with Chapman himself. Without going in to detail lets just say that Mr 
    Fresno brings a lot of baggage to the party and I'm not just talking about 
    gear. Neither of these examples in my opinion is enough reason to 
    &nbsp;change your mind Jim though you might want to check out BKF because he 
    really is amazing. But that video was low brow and mean spirited at best, 
    &nbsp;but not at all surprising to me. I'm personally not of the opinion 
    that having genius or virtuosity gives one the right to loose your humility 
    or air your dirty 
laundry.&nbsp;</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>Bill<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Tony said:
> Wait...who wrote what here? 
I posted the two links (and the two sentences right above them), the 
rest is Bill commenting not so much on my message, then on the validity 
of BKF's statements about the Chapman Stick vs. the Warr guitar.

Regarding that specific topic, one thing's sure: I'm by no means an 
authority on the subject of stick or warr being superior, but I still 
believe that, contrary to the Chapman Stick, the Warr guitar "doesn't 
make you look gay" (to quote Brian Kenney Fresno).
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* William Walker <mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com>
>     *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>     *Sent:* Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:17 PM
>     *Subject:* OT was David Torn,Terry Bozzio,Tony Levin,Pat
>     Mastelotto NAMM 2010
>
>>>
>>>     Rainer wrote: 
>>     You should rather not get a stick - for various reasons explained
>>     here by a looper:
>>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky7t0UGaYaw
>>       
>     and then wrote:
>>     For a review from one of us, read here:
>>     http://loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200305/msg00112.html
>>
>>     First of all as brilliant as Mr Fresno is, he is also a person
>>     with an obvious axe to grind, and you have to wonder about a guy
>>     who gets so bent out of shape (enough to devote considerable
>>     creative energy to write a song about the subject) because a
>>     designer won't make little modifications to Brian's exacting
>>     needs. You know the Stick works just fine for people like Tony
>>     Levin, Tom Greisgraber, and many many other accomplished stick
>>     players including Emmet Chapman himself who I  saw in the 70's
>>     when he was first unveiling the instrument.  So one might take
>>     what BKF says with a grain of salt. There is obviously some other
>>     agenda at play.  What ever law suit Chapman has going, there
>>     again is the intellectual property issue, Is there any argument
>>     that Chapman was the guy to originally conceive of, build, and
>>     play the instrument? I think not.
>>      Regarding quoting Rick's review, I saw the same show and I have
>>     to agree he is an astoundingly gifted musician both incredibly
>>     witty and entertaining.  But  that doesn't mean he is the
>>      definitive authority on anything. Methinks the souring of his
>>     relationship with Chapman has more to do with Mr Fresno's
>>     personality quirks than with Chapman himself. Without going in to
>>     detail lets just say that Mr Fresno brings a lot of baggage to
>>     the party and I'm not just talking about gear. Neither of these
>>     examples in my opinion is enough reason to  change your mind Jim
>>     though you might want to check out BKF because he really is
>>     amazing. But that video was low brow and mean spirited at best,
>>      but not at all surprising to me. I'm personally not of the
>>     opinion that having genius or virtuosity gives one the right to
>>     loose your humility or air your dirty laundry. 
>     Bill
>


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...ha,ha ... that's the main reason i switched from the stick to a warr!

2010/1/31 Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>

>
> Regarding that specific topic, one thing's sure: I'm by no means an
> authority on the subject of stick or warr being superior, but I still
> believe that, contrary to the Chapman Stick, the Warr guitar "doesn't make
> you look gay" (to quote Brian Kenney Fresno).
>
>
> --
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...ha,ha ... that&#39;s the main reason i switched from the stick to a warr=
!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/31 Rainer Straschill <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com">moinsound@googlema=
il.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
Regarding that specific topic, one thing&#39;s sure: I&#39;m by no means an=
 authority on the subject of stick or warr being superior, but I still beli=
eve that, contrary to the Chapman Stick, the Warr guitar &quot;doesn&#39;t =
make you look gay&quot; (to quote Brian Kenney Fresno).<div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br></div></div></blockquote></div>-- <br>=
Raul Bonell at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://r=
aulbonell.blogspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.=
ct-collective.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
<br>

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If the content of that video was anything to go by, I imagine that the
people at chapman stick are extemely happy NOT to have such a prick singing
THEIR praises.
What a total twat!
What awful awful awful truly god awful music!

You know, I=B4ve always had a sneaking suspician that a tapping guitar ( i =
was
thinking of a chapman stick) was a pretty neat idea, and that I wouldnt min=
d
one... funny that I=B4ve almost NEVER seen any good music played on one. It=
s
like those irritating guitarists that have to show off the whole time have
found out that that there is an instrument that you can show off waaaay mor=
e
than on a regular guitar, so they move to stick!!!!

Do you HAVE to be a virtuoso jazzy speed twiddler to play a tapping
instrument?

Thanks for the truly horrible video.... have to go watch it again... I dunn=
o
why.. I guess its quite enjoyable picking scabs in a way..

Mark



On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

> ...ha,ha ... that's the main reason i switched from the stick to a warr!
>
> 2010/1/31 Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>
>
>
>> Regarding that specific topic, one thing's sure: I'm by no means an
>> authority on the subject of stick or warr being superior, but I still
>> believe that, contrary to the Chapman Stick, the Warr guitar "doesn't ma=
ke
>> you look gay" (to quote Brian Kenney Fresno).
>>
>>
>> --
> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>
>


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If the content of that video was anything to go by, I imagine that the peop=
le at chapman stick are extemely happy NOT to have such a prick singing THE=
IR praises.<br>What a total twat!<br>What awful awful awful truly god awful=
 music! <br>

<br>You know, I=B4ve always had a sneaking suspician that a tapping guitar =
( i was thinking of a chapman stick) was a pretty neat idea, and that I wou=
ldnt mind one... funny that I=B4ve almost NEVER seen any good music played =
on one. Its like those irritating guitarists that have to show off the whol=
e time have found out that that there is an instrument that you can show of=
f waaaay more than on a regular guitar, so they move to stick!!!! <br>

<br>Do you HAVE to be a virtuoso jazzy speed twiddler to play a tapping ins=
trument?<br><br>Thanks for the truly horrible video.... have to go watch it=
 again... I dunno why.. I guess its quite enjoyable picking scabs in a way.=
.<br>

<br>Mark<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at =
7:50 PM, Raul Bonell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:raul.bonell@gm=
ail.com">raul.bonell@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin=
: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

...ha,ha ... that&#39;s the main reason i switched from the stick to a warr=
!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/1/31 Rainer Straschill <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><div class=3D"im">

<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
Regarding that specific topic, one thing&#39;s sure: I&#39;m by no means an=
 authority on the subject of stick or warr being superior, but I still beli=
eve that, contrary to the Chapman Stick, the Warr guitar &quot;doesn&#39;t =
make you look gay&quot; (to quote Brian Kenney Fresno).<div>


<div></div><div><br><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div><font color=3D=
"#888888">-- <br>Raul Bonell at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogs=
pot.com" target=3D"_blank">http://raulbonell.blogspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape=
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p://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>


<br>
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//www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vim=
eo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://uk.=
youtube.com/user/markfrancombe">http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a=
><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">http://www.myspace.com/mar=
kfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSync=
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>Methinks the souring of his relationship with Chapman has more to do with 
>Mr Fresno's personality quirks than with Chapman himself.

The lawsuits are long over afaik.  There is objective information available 
on the internet regarding the legal proceedings as well as less objective 
bloggage from the parties involved.

t

>>>>     Rainer wrote:
>>>     You should rather not get a stick - for various reasons explained
>>>     here by a looper:
>>>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky7t0UGaYaw
>>>
>>     and then wrote:
>>>     For a review from one of us, read here:
>>>     http://loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200305/msg00112.html
>>>
>>>     First of all as brilliant as Mr Fresno is, he is also a person
>>>     with an obvious axe to grind, and you have to wonder about a guy
>>>     who gets so bent out of shape (enough to devote considerable
>>>     creative energy to write a song about the subject) because a
>>>     designer won't make little modifications to Brian's exacting
>>>     needs. You know the Stick works just fine for people like Tony
>>>     Levin, Tom Greisgraber, and many many other accomplished stick
>>>     players including Emmet Chapman himself who I  saw in the 70's
>>>     when he was first unveiling the instrument.  So one might take
>>>     what BKF says with a grain of salt. There is obviously some other
>>>     agenda at play.  What ever law suit Chapman has going, there
>>>     again is the intellectual property issue, Is there any argument
>>>     that Chapman was the guy to originally conceive of, build, and
>>>     play the instrument? I think not.
>>>      Regarding quoting Rick's review, I saw the same show and I have
>>>     to agree he is an astoundingly gifted musician both incredibly
>>>     witty and entertaining.  But  that doesn't mean he is the
>>>      definitive authority on anything. Methinks the souring of his
>>>     relationship with Chapman has more to do with Mr Fresno's
>>>     personality quirks than with Chapman himself. Without going in to
>>>     detail lets just say that Mr Fresno brings a lot of baggage to
>>>     the party and I'm not just talking about gear. Neither of these
>>>     examples in my opinion is enough reason to  change your mind Jim
>>>     though you might want to check out BKF because he really is
>>>     amazing. But that video was low brow and mean spirited at best,
>>>      but not at all surprising to me. I'm personally not of the
>>>     opinion that having genius or virtuosity gives one the right to
>>>     loose your humility or air your dirty laundry.
>>     Bill
>>
>
>
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From johnpaul20084@yahoo.com  Sun Jan 31 23:12:58 2010
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Hi, all

I have one EDP and now need to loop in what I think of as a two-track 
mode, with two EDPs:

I need to lay down track 1 of the loop, put down my instrument/pick up 
another, listen to track 1, and then lay down track 2 of the same loop 
without affecting track 1 in any way. I need the two outputs to be 
independent of each other, for volume, panning, and effects reasons.

I know I can MIDI sync two EDPs, but can I control their inputs 
independently, so that I can lay down track 2 without overwriting track 
1?  (I can reach over and turn the knobs by hand, if need be.)
I will be panning the output from my mixer hard R or hard L to send the 
sounds to either of the EDPs' inputs.

 From there, I think what I need to do is more typical sync--have the 
two EDPs be set to have the same number of multiple loops, respond to 
the same Nextloop/Record command, and shuffling between the multiple 
loops via Nextloop.

I think that what I need is for the Master EDP input setting to not 
control  the Slave input setting, but otherwise have the Slave following 
the Master commands.

Can two synced EDP's do this?  If so, how?
The more explicit your description, the better off I'll be. I need to 
know stone cold that I can do this before I buy another EDP.


(And for the record, I know the Looperlative is an amazing machine, but 
I've been told by folks on their forum that in terms of recording, there 
is no way to treat the stereo loops of the LP1 as two distinct tracks. 
The best I've been told I can do is to Group a pair of loops together to 
create a two-track loop. And it that it may or may not be possible to 
then shuffle between the groups in order to move between loops. So even 
though the fidelity of the LP1 is higher, and it has many other 
admirable attributes, I am still thinking that a pair of EDPs may do the 
job I need more directly, and therefore easily.)

Thanks for your thoughts,
TJ

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